P.S. I do enjoy Howard Stern, and have posted about him on the GZFX thread because they advertise on his show. I may have responded in the past over here about him if someone else brought him up but I'm not sure what that has to do QBID or our disagreements.

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Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm a schizophrenic and so am I.

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Okay...I'm trying to find Betting Babe's profile...she told me I could...no secrets...BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW!!!! help?

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Originally posted by sunny:
BoulderBuddy, I asked the same thing a little while ago...bugged now...I honestly don't know...MM Manipulation?

Okay...I'm trying to find Betting Babe's profile...she told me I could...no secrets...BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW!!!! help?

Yes, I realize I'm being noisy, but I prefer to just say curious...

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Need to click on myself....see if there's anything there?

Betting Babe is beautiful...does BlueEyedBoy know about her? Uh, think she knows about studios, guys!!! LOL

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Originally posted by firefly:
skunksyard on IHUB just posted this. http://www.mediainfocenter.org/story.asp?story_id=57046548

Thanks, skunsyard!

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Wow, is Frank, frank? BET became a moneysucker.

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Originally posted by sunny:
Forgive me, please, (lol) but, uh, Frank needs to at least sit up and smile for the camera...don't ya think...Betting Babe should fly out there and give him some pointers on camera-flattering shots!!

Thanks King...appreciate that link.

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Sep. 13--After years of planning, Palm Springs-based Q Television Network began broadcasting gay and lesbian programming 24 hours a day Sept. 8.
The brainchild of Frank Olsen, chief executive officer and a 40-year veteran of television and radio, Q Television Network [formerly Triangle Television Network] will begin broadcasting its own programs in October, spending $190,000 a month to create shows like "Wow," a talk show for women and "Boys of Hawaii" and "Girls of Hawaii," both gay-oriented surfing programs.

Q Television announced Aug. 31 a movie licensing deal with Warner Bros. Domestic Cable Distribution worth $700,000. The library includes "Dog Day Afternoon," "The Harvey Girls" and the mini-series "A Century of Women."

On Sept. 7, a few hours before they were to board a plane for New York to meet with potential advertisers, Olsen and Chief Financial Officer Rene Schenk met in the Q Television offices in the Palm Springs Life building to discuss how they started their network.

QUESTION: What has been the most difficult part about getting this [network] started?

OLSEN: I don't want to get into that. The whole thing has been difficult. Lining up advertisers hasn't been easy. The production end hasn't been easy. It's been 18-hour days seven days a week.

Q: Triangle Multi-Media Limited Inc. [Q Television's parent company] sold its radio operations and made a move into television. How is this different from radio?

OLSEN: I was in radio for years. Radio is easy compared with this. It's cheap, it's easy and it's profitable. Television is a lot of work. We had radio [gay-oriented syndicated programming that originated in Seattle on KTNB-AM and KBRO-AM ] but we sold that. That was just a steppingstone anyway. The radio was a way to get into television.

Q: How much opposition do you expect from the religious right, or from anyone else?

OLSEN: I don't expect any, really.

Maybe ACT-UP [the gay rights group] will attack us for not being political enough. Actually, I wouldn't mind a little opposition.

Q: In February, you said selling advertising would be difficult and that advertisers "don't want to pick up one gay person and lose two Christians." How do you avoid being too offensive to some advertisers?

SCHENK: That's a pitfall we're going to have to avoid. We're going to be as gay as we can be, but there's a lot more acceptance out there than there used to be. There's no doubt in my mind that this is the right time to do this.

Q: Why?

SCHENK: The gay and lesbian communities are the last big untapped market out there. The Hispanic market has been heavily tapped, now it's time for the gay and lesbian market. There are about 30 million people in the United States who call themselves gay or lesbian, and they have about $500 billion to $700 billion a year in disposable income. Twenty-two percent of them have graduate degrees.

OLSEN: Two things have happened that that have made this the right time for us.

The first is when Viacom said the gay market is so big and so lucrative that they wished they had gone after it sooner. Well, that made my job about 10 times easier because in television, Viacom is the ultimate authority. That was the Pope talking. They practically did my job for me.

Q: What was the second thing?

OLSEN: Digital. That was the greatest thing that ever happened for us, because it means we don't have to scramble our signal.It also means that we can aim our signal right at our subscribers. The only way you can get us is to be a subscriber.

So that means the advertisers don't have to be afraid to advertise with us.

Q: Black Entertainment Television has been criticized for moving away from African-American programming and becoming a conventional network operated by black people. How will you keep your network from becoming a network run by gay folks?

OLSEN: Black Entertainment Television was a money sucker. It wasn't making money, so it decided to go in another direction. We're going to make money.

We're developing our own programming, and there's plenty of gay programming out there already that we can buy.

Q Television will spend $370,00 a month for outside programming and $200,000 on production. The network will charge $7.95 a month to subscribers with a goal of attracting 150,000 subscribers during its first year, and it will charge between $150,000 and $200,000 to advertisers for yearly advertising packages. Programs will include talk shows, movies

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570,000.00 per month in programing = $6,840,000.00 per yr for programing

150,000 subs. @ 7.95 per month = $14,310,000.00 per yr

profit minus other expences satillite time ect. $7,470,000.00

additional income from advertizers not included

NOW THATS A SCAM COMPANY IF I EVER SAW ONE
i think U4 is right, why would anyone want to buy stock at 1/2 penny of a company that if they only hit the low end of their expectations makes 7 mil. a yrs. i mean what were we all thinking.

thanks

Go Q!

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King...didn't see the blinkies...will go look for them...

LET'S DO SOME SIMPLE MATH:

Q FAILED TO LAUNCH 4+ YEARS AGO. WE HAVE REDUCED OPERATING EXPENSES TO $33,000 PER MONTH AND WHO-KNOWS WHAT EXPENSES WERE PRIOR TO THAT. THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS TOTAL CRAP ABOUT HAVING $33,000 MONTH OPERATING EXPENSES.

$33,000/MONTH X 4 YEARS = $1,584,000

SO I'M CURIOUS. WHERE DOES ONE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS COME FROM? FURTHER, NOTHING WAS BEING DONE WITH Q.

$190,000 PER MONTH FOR A NEW PROGRAM. THAT'S FUNNY, I CAN RENT A ENTIRE STUDIO WITH CREW WITH FULL EDITING FOR $1250/HOUR. $50,000/MONTH IS AVERAGE FOR A SMALL STATION (Q-HASN'T EVEN BROADCASTED) TO PUT OUT A PROGRAM.

OH WONDERFUL, WE HAVE A MOVIE PACKAGE "WORTH" $700,000. OH PLEASE. TOTAL CRAP AND FLAT OUT LIE. TO OBTAIN THE RIGHTS TO MOVIES THAT HAD NEVER BEEN RELEASED AND DATE ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1940; MAYBE THE WIZARD OF OZ AND FRANK APPEARS TO BE THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTIN WANTING THE BROOM.

LINING UP ADVERTISERS HAS BEEN THE HARDEST PART OF STARTING THE NETWORK? WHAT ADVERTISERS? ABSOLUTELY HULARIOUS. I GUESS THAT SAUCE STUFF ON THE WEBSITE WAS A REALLY DOOZIE OF A DEAL TO COORDINATE.

FRANK DOESN'T EXPECT ANY OPPOSITION FROM THE RELIGOUS SIDE.... HULARIOUS. PROBABLY CAUSE YOU HAVE NO Q-TELEVISION. GAY MARRIAGE STEMS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE PRESIDENT AND MAJOR MEDIA EVERYWHERE, THE CHRISTIAN SIDE HAS PUT OUT WHO TO VOTE FOR AND DO NOT SUPPORT GAY MARRIAGE AND FRANK OLSEN SAYS HE DOESN'T EXPECT ANY OPPOSITION. NOW THAT IS FUNNY; HEY FRANK, YOUR LATE FOR YOUR AA MEETING!

ADVERTISERS DON'T WANT TO PICK UP ONE GAY PERSON AND LOSE TWO CHRISTIANS. OH PLEASE.... HULARIOUS. BETTER CHECK OUT YOUR GAY MAGAZINES WITH HUNDREDS OF "BIG NAME" ADVERTISERS. FURTHER, WE HAVE PLENTY OF "GAY" PROGRAMMING ON REGULAR TV AND THE ADVERTISERS AREN'T HAVING A PROBLEM THERE. YOU CAN'T FIND ADVERTISERS BUT YOU ALSO TOSS OUT 500-700 BILLION IN UNTAPPED DOLLARS. THEN FOLLOW UP WITH VIACOM WISHES THEY HAD STARTED THEIR GAY STATION EARLIER.

NOW TOSS OUT A COMMENT THAT B.E.T. WAS A MONEY SUCKER. HEY FRANK, GUESS WHAT... BETTER REVIEW WHAT BET VIEWER BASE IS AND WHAT IT JUST SOLD FOR.

NOW YOUR GOING TO SPEND $370,00/MONTH FOR OUTSIDE PROGRAMMING AND $200,000 ON PRODUCTION FOR A TOTAL OF $570,000/MONTH. NOW ADD $33,000 MONTH TO THAT AND $603,000 PER MONTH TIMES 12 MONTHS IS $7,236,000/YEAR. THE MATH ISN'T ADDING UP FRANK THE DRUNK <HICCUP>

NOW YOU INTEND ON GETTING $150,000 - $200,000 PER YEAR FROM EACH ADVERTISER FOR A STATION THAT CAN'T BROADCAST. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A SIGNAL FOR ADVERTISERS TO LOOK AT SINCE 'SOFT' LAUNCH FOR THE PAST 3 MONTHS.

HEY FRANK, YOUR FULL OF CRAP. QBID IS A MONEY SUCKER.

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Originally posted by sonnydbar:
I'm showing a close of .0050, anyone else

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PS. USCI seems to be on the move. Just a heads up.