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Originally posted by kbpkt:
I can't get through, are you going to post the content like usual? Thanks

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It is indeed a make or break situation. If the money runs out and the next payment is not made on time, the feed stops. Satellite time is expensive and they do not give it away. At better than 10 mil per satellite to construct plus launch costs, they cannot afford to give satellite time away.

Bottom Line-- no money, no feed, target date is July 16, 2004

Quite the large deal I would say.

In answer to your second question...No not on this board. Look back thru the thread and you can find my yahoo address. Contact me thru there or msn. kb5zvw. Will discuss further if you are willing to listen. If not , don't bother wasting my time. BTW kb5zvw is an amateur radio call sign, quite unique and issued by the Federal Communications Commission.

The DragonMaster

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Originally posted by denzen:
That can't possibly be what penny-trader was refering to. He seemed, to me, to imply that it was much more of a hurdle than that, more of a make or break situation.

Thanks, anyway.

BTW, Dragon how is it that you know so much about the folks at QTN. You mentioned a couple of weeks ago that you were familiar in very discriptive terms about a couple of people that work there. Steve being the main person. You also mentioned dress and mannerisms.
When and how is it that you are so familiar with these people? Will you please share that info.

Thanks again,

Dz

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Originally posted by DragonMaster:
If the money runs out and the next payment is not made on time, the feed stops. Satellite time is expensive and they do not give it away. At better than 10 mil per satellite to construct plus launch costs, they cannot afford to give satellite time away.

Bottom Line-- no money, no feed, target date is July 16, 2004

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The DragonMaster

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Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
But they have the money. Five years worth, right?

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Thank you for calling the QTelevision Network hotline.

The following is a message from Frank Olsen, our CEO:

I am unable to release any information other than what I have already given you at this time.

I assure you that we will have coverage in a major portion of the country by the beginning of the Fall season.

We are increasing programming to eight hours between July 1st and July 6th for the hard launch so it will be available to the carriers. The Fall programming schedule will be posted next week on our website. www.QTelevision.com.

Today we are going to Los Angeles, hopefully to complete carriage contracts.
We are also finalizing auditions for the news show and putting in bids for our mobile units which will be called QMobiles.

We will be making an announcement as soon as possible.
We cannot do this until the carriage companies allow us to.

I will not violate the terms of our agreements and jeopardize the contracts that have taken us six years to get. Please work with us. The only people putting pressure on us are the daytraders.

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Originally posted by penny-trader:
thanks you for addressing this, but you didnt answer my question, did you have anyone go with you in her place? you didnt say there wasn't. where you alone on your visit to the Q office, is what i was asking.

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IS THERE SOME PART OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST DON'T QUITE GET? I TRY TO IGNORE YOUR IGNORANCE. I HAVE ANSWERED EVERY SINGLE QUESTION YOU HAVE EVERY ASK ME. IF IT WAS POORING RAIN OUTSIDE AND I TOLD YOU IT WAS. YOU WOULD QUESTION IT.

DO NOT--DO NOT--ADDRESS ANOTHER QUESTION TO ME OR MENTION MY NAME OR MAKE REFERENCE TO ME ON OTHER THREADS OF ALLSTOCKS OR OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS. NOW IS THERE ANY PART OF THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF THE FACT THAT A FRAUD INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN INSTIGATED BY MYSELF ON MY OWN INTERNET ACCOUNT THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF--I WILL PROCECUTE TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW ON INTERNET FRAUD AND/OR SLANDER THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED AND THAT YOU AND OR ANYONE ELSE ARE PART OF/AND/OR CO-CONSPIRATOR TO? EVEN AS A CO-CONSPIRATOR TO INTERNET FRAUD YOU CAN GO TO JAIL FOR 15 YEARS FOR THE 1ST OFFENCE? DO YOU KNOW THAT TRYING TO STEAL SOMEONE'S INTERNET IDENTITY AND E-MAIL THRU THIER E-MAIL IS A FELONY? DO YOU KNOW THAT CUTTING AND PASTING AND EDITING ORIGINAL POSTS AND ADDING KNOWN FALSE INFORMATION ON A MESSAGE BOARD IS A FELONY? WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NEED SPELLED OUT FOR YOU? IS THERE ANY PART OF--THIS HAS BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE FBI FOR FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS BY MY INTERNET SERVER AT MY REQUEST THAT YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH UNDERSTANDING? WHAT PART OF- EVERYTHING YOU AND A FEW OTHERS DO AND SAY ON THIS BOARD, IS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR INTERNET FRAUD? NOW DO WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE--I AM THE SAME PERSON AND HAVE THE SAME E-MAIL FOR 10 YEARS. I DON'T GIVE A F*&K WHERE YOU GO. JUST DO NOT ADDRESS ME IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR MANNER. THE INVESTIGATORS WILL HANDLE IT FROM HERE. IT IS OUT OF MY HANDS.

NOW--WHO'S YOUR DADDY???

DZ

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Originally posted by CHIMAN34:
Well at least this last update helps us know more of what's happening. For those people being negative, please chill until later on. To me this was good news, and now we have to wait more, no problem. Looks like this thing is about to take off, may not be this week, but it will very soon.

Dave

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Originally posted by penguinking:
The hotline says the only ones putting pressure on us is the daytraders..

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WTF. They made a hotline update to whine about day traders??? They promised a PR with concrete news about contracts that have been signed, instead we get some thief's resume. Of course the pps tanked. So how do they respond? "It's the daytraders..wahh.." I can't get through to the hotline myself, but if that's really what it says, I'm amazed. Of course there are also people here still talking about MM's keeping the price low so they can load up. I guess they've been doing that for the last 6 months? Maybe reality will sink in some day. Jeez....

how do you get Fraud from my question?

please explain that to me. I have only asked you if you where by yourself at the q office.

and now you are accusing me of e-mail fraud? i fail to make the connection here.

what is that about?

Anyone that can explain this one i would love to here it

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Originally posted by realityinc21:
IS THERE SOME PART OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST DON'T QUITE GET? I TRY TO IGNORE YOUR IGNORANCE. I HAVE ANSWERED EVERY SINGLE QUESTION YOU HAVE EVERY ASK ME. IF IT WAS POORING RAIN OUTSIDE AND I TOLD YOU IT WAS. YOU WOULD QUESTION IT.

DO NOT--DO NOT--ADDRESS ANOTHER QUESTION TO ME OR MENTION MY NAME OR MAKE REFERENCE TO ME ON OTHER THREADS OF ALLSTOCKS OR OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS. NOW IS THERE ANY PART OF THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF THE FACT THAT A FRAUD INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN INSTIGATED BY MYSELF ON MY OWN INTERNET ACCOUNT THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF--I WILL PROCECUTE TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW ON INTERNET FRAUD AND/OR SLANDER THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED AND THAT YOU AND OR ANYONE ELSE ARE PART OF/AND/OR CO-CONSPIRATOR TO? EVEN AS A CO-CONSPIRATOR TO INTERNET FRAUD YOU CAN GO TO JAIL FOR 15 YEARS FOR THE 1ST OFFENCE? DO YOU KNOW THAT TRYING TO STEAL SOMEONE'S INTERNET IDENTITY AND E-MAIL THRU THIER E-MAIL IS A FELONY? DO YOU KNOW THAT CUTTING AND PASTING AND EDITING ORIGINAL POSTS AND ADDING KNOWN FALSE INFORMATION ON A MESSAGE BOARD IS A FELONY? WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NEED SPELLED OUT FOR YOU? IS THERE ANY PART OF--THIS HAS BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE FBI FOR FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS BY MY INTERNET SERVER AT MY REQUEST THAT YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH UNDERSTANDING? WHAT PART OF- EVERYTHING YOU AND A FEW OTHERS DO AND SAY ON THIS BOARD, IS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR INTERNET FRAUD? NOW DO WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE--I AM THE SAME PERSON AND HAVE THE SAME E-MAIL FOR 10 YEARS. I DON'T GIVE A F*&K WHERE YOU GO. JUST DO NOT ADDRESS ME IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR MANNER. THE INVESTIGATORS WILL HANDLE IT FROM HERE. IT IS OUT OF MY HANDS.

NOW--WHO'S YOUR DADDY???

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As far as starting an investigation on your own account...get real...you cannot start an investigation on your own account..it has to be started by an outside agency. Now having said that, That email is from you. At least according to the headers, and verified as being true and accurate. It is part of a package sent to the SEC for review. Please feel free to give any information you require to the FBI concerning me that you feel necessary. I will even give you my personal information via AOL IM if you wish. I think you will find you have bit off quite a bit more than you can chew.

The DragonMaster

Do Not Meddle In The Affairs Of Dragons
For You Are Crunchy And Taste Good With Ketchup

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Originally posted by realityinc21:
IS THERE SOME PART OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST DON'T QUITE GET? I TRY TO IGNORE YOUR IGNORANCE. I HAVE ANSWERED EVERY SINGLE QUESTION YOU HAVE EVERY ASK ME. IF IT WAS POORING RAIN OUTSIDE AND I TOLD YOU IT WAS. YOU WOULD QUESTION IT.

DO NOT--DO NOT--ADDRESS ANOTHER QUESTION TO ME OR MENTION MY NAME OR MAKE REFERENCE TO ME ON OTHER THREADS OF ALLSTOCKS OR OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS. NOW IS THERE ANY PART OF THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF THE FACT THAT A FRAUD INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN INSTIGATED BY MYSELF ON MY OWN INTERNET ACCOUNT THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF--I WILL PROCECUTE TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW ON INTERNET FRAUD AND/OR SLANDER THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED AND THAT YOU AND OR ANYONE ELSE ARE PART OF/AND/OR CO-CONSPIRATOR TO? EVEN AS A CO-CONSPIRATOR TO INTERNET FRAUD YOU CAN GO TO JAIL FOR 15 YEARS FOR THE 1ST OFFENCE? DO YOU KNOW THAT TRYING TO STEAL SOMEONE'S INTERNET IDENTITY AND E-MAIL THRU THIER E-MAIL IS A FELONY? DO YOU KNOW THAT CUTTING AND PASTING AND EDITING ORIGINAL POSTS AND ADDING KNOWN FALSE INFORMATION ON A MESSAGE BOARD IS A FELONY? WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NEED SPELLED OUT FOR YOU? IS THERE ANY PART OF--THIS HAS BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE FBI FOR FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS BY MY INTERNET SERVER AT MY REQUEST THAT YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH UNDERSTANDING? WHAT PART OF- EVERYTHING YOU AND A FEW OTHERS DO AND SAY ON THIS BOARD, IS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR INTERNET FRAUD? NOW DO WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE--I AM THE SAME PERSON AND HAVE THE SAME E-MAIL FOR 10 YEARS. I DON'T GIVE A F*&K WHERE YOU GO. JUST DO NOT ADDRESS ME IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR MANNER. THE INVESTIGATORS WILL HANDLE IT FROM HERE. IT IS OUT OF MY HANDS.

NOW--WHO'S YOUR DADDY???

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Originally posted by qnique:
MAN WHEN IS THE LAUNCH? FALL, JULY 1ST,16th, WHEN?

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Their mention of "fall" in this hotline update is merely stating that BY fall they will have cable providers to cover a majority of the US. Launch is still scheduled for July as far as I'm concerned.

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Originally posted by RobinO:
WTF. They made a hotline update to whine about day traders??? They promised a PR with concrete news about contracts that have been signed, instead we get some thief's resume. Of course the pps tanked. So how do they respond? "It's the daytraders..wahh.." I can't get through to the hotline myself, but if that's really what it says, I'm amazed. Of course there are also people here still talking about MM's keeping the price low so they can load up. I guess they've been doing that for the last 6 months? Maybe reality will sink in some day. Jeez....

-R

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Maybe its time for another CA for me.

May I reiterate what an important contribution your hotline update transcripts are? I can't type fast enough. I can't even scribble fast enough. And I retain about 1/2 of what I hear the first time. This way we can digest the information at our own pace.

The overall spirit of Allstocks is "sharing", and you help display that, much unlike those few with the "I know something you don't know" attitude.

Thanks. We all owe you a chalupa. Of course, you'll be busy writing down what everyone is saying at the party. (And there WILL be a party. It's either gonna be in Vegas , or we're all gonna go visit Frank ).

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June 29, 2004 UPDATE 1min 20sec.(est.)

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Originally posted by realityinc21:

IS THERE SOME PART OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST DON'T QUITE GET? I TRY TO IGNORE YOUR IGNORANCE. I HAVE ANSWERED EVERY SINGLE QUESTION YOU HAVE EVERY ASK ME. IF IT WAS POORING RAIN OUTSIDE AND I TOLD YOU IT WAS. YOU WOULD QUESTION IT.
DO NOT--DO NOT--ADDRESS ANOTHER QUESTION TO ME OR MENTION MY NAME OR MAKE REFERENCE TO ME ON OTHER THREADS OF ALLSTOCKS OR OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS. NOW IS THERE ANY PART OF THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF THE FACT THAT A FRAUD INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN INSTIGATED BY MYSELF ON MY OWN INTERNET ACCOUNT THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF--I WILL PROCECUTE TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW ON INTERNET FRAUD AND/OR SLANDER THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED AND THAT YOU AND OR ANYONE ELSE ARE PART OF/AND/OR CO-CONSPIRATOR TO? EVEN AS A CO-CONSPIRATOR TO INTERNET FRAUD YOU CAN GO TO JAIL FOR 15 YEARS FOR THE 1ST OFFENCE? DO YOU KNOW THAT TRYING TO STEAL SOMEONE'S INTERNET IDENTITY AND E-MAIL THRU THIER E-MAIL IS A FELONY? DO YOU KNOW THAT CUTTING AND PASTING AND EDITING ORIGINAL POSTS AND ADDING KNOWN FALSE INFORMATION ON A MESSAGE BOARD IS A FELONY? WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NEED SPELLED OUT FOR YOU? IS THERE ANY PART OF--THIS HAS BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE FBI FOR FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS BY MY INTERNET SERVER AT MY REQUEST THAT YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH UNDERSTANDING? WHAT PART OF- EVERYTHING YOU AND A FEW OTHERS DO AND SAY ON THIS BOARD, IS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR INTERNET FRAUD? NOW DO WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE--I AM THE SAME PERSON AND HAVE THE SAME E-MAIL FOR 10 YEARS. I DON'T GIVE A F*&K WHERE YOU GO. JUST DO NOT ADDRESS ME IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR MANNER. THE INVESTIGATORS WILL HANDLE IT FROM HERE. IT IS OUT OF MY HANDS.

NOW--WHO'S YOUR DADDY???

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Good Grief, what's she talking about. Obviously, IMHO, there was someone there and she doesn't want to tell us about it. Why else attack like that. If there were someone else there, wouldn't that explain the source of some of this information and that would verify thie infomraion, not that I need any verification, but verify it for those who lost good money because of this.

If I'm mistaken about that, then why not just give a direct answer, YES or NO!!! Are you scared someone can prove you wrong? Maybe someone knows a big secret! Trying to scare someone away that can expose the truth.

So someone took over someones coumputer to try to frame them. LOL LOL LOL LOL

From reading some of the post on this board, I hate to say, someone here will actually believe that.

>>>>> ALL OF THIS JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE ASKED..... <<<<<
"if you where by yourself at the q office"

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Originally posted by WinsumLosesum:
1BigTip

May I reiterate what an important contribution your hotline update transcripts are? I can't type fast enough. I can't even scribble fast enough. And I retain about 1/2 of what I hear the first time. This way we can digest the information at our own pace.

The overall spirit of Allstocks is "sharing", and you help display that, much unlike those few with the "I know something you don't know" attitude.

Thanks. We all owe you a chalupa. Of course, you'll be busy writing down what everyone is saying at the party. (And there WILL be a party. It's either gonna be in Vegas , or we're all gonna go visit Frank ).

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