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Penny-Trader
I was wrong?
Put in a ziplock baggy and save it.

Still happy to see you have faith in QTN.

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The hotline says the only ones putting pressure on us is the daytraders.. if it wasnt for the daytraders this stock would be sitting still.. imo
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I just heard it, I doubt it will cause any uptick to the pps. It says "day traders are hurting"


quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
I can't get through, are you going to post the content like usual? Thanks

[This message has been edited by cool1sh (edited June 29, 2004).]


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In answer to your first question:

It is indeed a make or break situation. If the money runs out and the next payment is not made on time, the feed stops. Satellite time is expensive and they do not give it away. At better than 10 mil per satellite to construct plus launch costs, they cannot afford to give satellite time away.

Bottom Line-- no money, no feed, target date is July 16, 2004

Quite the large deal I would say.

In answer to your second question...No not on this board. Look back thru the thread and you can find my yahoo address. Contact me thru there or msn. kb5zvw. Will discuss further if you are willing to listen. If not , don't bother wasting my time. BTW kb5zvw is an amateur radio call sign, quite unique and issued by the Federal Communications Commission.

The DragonMaster

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That can't possibly be what penny-trader was refering to. He seemed, to me, to imply that it was much more of a hurdle than that, more of a make or break situation.

Thanks, anyway.

BTW, Dragon how is it that you know so much about the folks at QTN. You mentioned a couple of weeks ago that you were familiar in very discriptive terms about a couple of people that work there. Steve being the main person. You also mentioned dress and mannerisms.
When and how is it that you are so familiar with these people? Will you please share that info.

Thanks again,

Dz


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Sorry. Was in a rush before. I'll try to have it by afternoon.
Heres some notes I jotted down for now.

I am unable to release any information other then what I have already given you at this time. I assure that we will have coverage in Major portion of the country. We are increasing programming to 8 hours between July 1st and July 6th for the hard launch so that it wil be available to the carriers.


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But they have the money. Five years worth, right?

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If the money runs out and the next payment is not made on time, the feed stops. Satellite time is expensive and they do not give it away. At better than 10 mil per satellite to construct plus launch costs, they cannot afford to give satellite time away.

Bottom Line-- no money, no feed, target date is July 16, 2004



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Sorry I need to clarify that. The money I was referring to is the First and Last month paid to NTI for the satellite, I.E. Two months worth of uplink time. How much is in the company coffers is anybodys guess.

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But they have the money. Five years worth, right?


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I can't imagine that 25 grand would be too much to cover at this point. I understand the importance of the signal.
That is scary if I consider that they might not have enough $ to cover it. I think they must have it covered one way or another, based on their latest actions. IMHO
Thanks for the reply.

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Out of order again.
trying to do too many things.

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I would just like to say that today has been one of the best days in a long time on this thread. There have been disagreements (yet no signed agreements for carriers ) but it has all remainded civil and on topic.
Nice work Everyone!
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MAN WHEN IS THE LAUNCH? FALL, JULY 1ST,16th, WHEN?
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June 29, 2004 UPDATE 1min 20sec.(est.)

Thank you for calling the QTelevision Network hotline.

The following is a message from Frank Olsen, our CEO:

I am unable to release any information other than what I have already given you at this time.

I assure you that we will have coverage in a major portion of the country by the beginning of the Fall season.

We are increasing programming to eight hours between July 1st and July 6th for the hard launch so it will be available to the carriers. The Fall programming schedule will be posted next week on our website. www.QTelevision.com.

Today we are going to Los Angeles, hopefully to complete carriage contracts.
We are also finalizing auditions for the news show and putting in bids for our mobile units which will be called QMobiles.

We will be making an announcement as soon as possible.
We cannot do this until the carriage companies allow us to.

I will not violate the terms of our agreements and jeopardize the contracts that have taken us six years to get. Please work with us. The only people putting pressure on us are the daytraders.

The next press release will come out as soon as we have exact dates.
Due to the holiday slowing things down, there may not be anymore updates until after the weekend. Have a safe and happy 4th of July weekend, and we’ll get back to you as soon as we have more specific information to give you.


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going sub-penny!!

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quote:
Originally posted by penny-trader:
thanks you for addressing this, but you didnt answer my question, did you have anyone go with you in her place? you didnt say there wasn't. where you alone on your visit to the Q office, is what i was asking.


IS THERE SOME PART OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST DON'T QUITE GET? I TRY TO IGNORE YOUR IGNORANCE. I HAVE ANSWERED EVERY SINGLE QUESTION YOU HAVE EVERY ASK ME. IF IT WAS POORING RAIN OUTSIDE AND I TOLD YOU IT WAS. YOU WOULD QUESTION IT.

DO NOT--DO NOT--ADDRESS ANOTHER QUESTION TO ME OR MENTION MY NAME OR MAKE REFERENCE TO ME ON OTHER THREADS OF ALLSTOCKS OR OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS. NOW IS THERE ANY PART OF THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF THE FACT THAT A FRAUD INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN INSTIGATED BY MYSELF ON MY OWN INTERNET ACCOUNT THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF--I WILL PROCECUTE TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW ON INTERNET FRAUD AND/OR SLANDER THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED AND THAT YOU AND OR ANYONE ELSE ARE PART OF/AND/OR CO-CONSPIRATOR TO? EVEN AS A CO-CONSPIRATOR TO INTERNET FRAUD YOU CAN GO TO JAIL FOR 15 YEARS FOR THE 1ST OFFENCE? DO YOU KNOW THAT TRYING TO STEAL SOMEONE'S INTERNET IDENTITY AND E-MAIL THRU THIER E-MAIL IS A FELONY? DO YOU KNOW THAT CUTTING AND PASTING AND EDITING ORIGINAL POSTS AND ADDING KNOWN FALSE INFORMATION ON A MESSAGE BOARD IS A FELONY? WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NEED SPELLED OUT FOR YOU? IS THERE ANY PART OF--THIS HAS BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE FBI FOR FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS BY MY INTERNET SERVER AT MY REQUEST THAT YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH UNDERSTANDING? WHAT PART OF- EVERYTHING YOU AND A FEW OTHERS DO AND SAY ON THIS BOARD, IS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR INTERNET FRAUD? NOW DO WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE--I AM THE SAME PERSON AND HAVE THE SAME E-MAIL FOR 10 YEARS. I DON'T GIVE A F*&K WHERE YOU GO. JUST DO NOT ADDRESS ME IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR MANNER. THE INVESTIGATORS WILL HANDLE IT FROM HERE. IT IS OUT OF MY HANDS.

NOW--WHO'S YOUR DADDY???

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Sharkus,
thanks for getting the jest of what I was trying to say.

DZ


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Well at least this last update helps us know more of what's happening. For those people being negative, please chill until later on. To me this was good news, and now we have to wait more, no problem. Looks like this thing is about to take off, may not be this week, but it will very soon.

Dave


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Agree!

DZ

quote:
Originally posted by CHIMAN34:
Well at least this last update helps us know more of what's happening. For those people being negative, please chill until later on. To me this was good news, and now we have to wait more, no problem. Looks like this thing is about to take off, may not be this week, but it will very soon.

Dave



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BOB and everyone!

If there has been wrong doing it will come out in the wash.
But we need to very careful about reference to leagal action in refernece to any specific person. Thats dangerous and that comes from my father the lawyer!


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quote:
Originally posted by penguinking:
The hotline says the only ones putting pressure on us is the daytraders..

WTF. They made a hotline update to whine about day traders??? They promised a PR with concrete news about contracts that have been signed, instead we get some thief's resume. Of course the pps tanked. So how do they respond? "It's the daytraders..wahh.." I can't get through to the hotline myself, but if that's really what it says, I'm amazed. Of course there are also people here still talking about MM's keeping the price low so they can load up. I guess they've been doing that for the last 6 months? Maybe reality will sink in some day. Jeez....

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what the hell are you talking about Diana?

how do you get Fraud from my question?

please explain that to me. I have only asked you if you where by yourself at the q office.

and now you are accusing me of e-mail fraud? i fail to make the connection here.

what is that about?

Anyone that can explain this one i would love to here it


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Originally posted by realityinc21:
IS THERE SOME PART OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST DON'T QUITE GET? I TRY TO IGNORE YOUR IGNORANCE. I HAVE ANSWERED EVERY SINGLE QUESTION YOU HAVE EVERY ASK ME. IF IT WAS POORING RAIN OUTSIDE AND I TOLD YOU IT WAS. YOU WOULD QUESTION IT.

DO NOT--DO NOT--ADDRESS ANOTHER QUESTION TO ME OR MENTION MY NAME OR MAKE REFERENCE TO ME ON OTHER THREADS OF ALLSTOCKS OR OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS. NOW IS THERE ANY PART OF THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF THE FACT THAT A FRAUD INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN INSTIGATED BY MYSELF ON MY OWN INTERNET ACCOUNT THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF--I WILL PROCECUTE TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW ON INTERNET FRAUD AND/OR SLANDER THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED AND THAT YOU AND OR ANYONE ELSE ARE PART OF/AND/OR CO-CONSPIRATOR TO? EVEN AS A CO-CONSPIRATOR TO INTERNET FRAUD YOU CAN GO TO JAIL FOR 15 YEARS FOR THE 1ST OFFENCE? DO YOU KNOW THAT TRYING TO STEAL SOMEONE'S INTERNET IDENTITY AND E-MAIL THRU THIER E-MAIL IS A FELONY? DO YOU KNOW THAT CUTTING AND PASTING AND EDITING ORIGINAL POSTS AND ADDING KNOWN FALSE INFORMATION ON A MESSAGE BOARD IS A FELONY? WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NEED SPELLED OUT FOR YOU? IS THERE ANY PART OF--THIS HAS BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE FBI FOR FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS BY MY INTERNET SERVER AT MY REQUEST THAT YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH UNDERSTANDING? WHAT PART OF- EVERYTHING YOU AND A FEW OTHERS DO AND SAY ON THIS BOARD, IS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR INTERNET FRAUD? NOW DO WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE--I AM THE SAME PERSON AND HAVE THE SAME E-MAIL FOR 10 YEARS. I DON'T GIVE A F*&K WHERE YOU GO. JUST DO NOT ADDRESS ME IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR MANNER. THE INVESTIGATORS WILL HANDLE IT FROM HERE. IT IS OUT OF MY HANDS.

NOW--WHO'S YOUR DADDY???



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Whoa....wait a minute....penny trader did not post any email. I posted that without the headers. I repeat, I posted that. Get your facts straight.

As far as starting an investigation on your own account...get real...you cannot start an investigation on your own account..it has to be started by an outside agency. Now having said that, That email is from you. At least according to the headers, and verified as being true and accurate. It is part of a package sent to the SEC for review. Please feel free to give any information you require to the FBI concerning me that you feel necessary. I will even give you my personal information via AOL IM if you wish. I think you will find you have bit off quite a bit more than you can chew.

The DragonMaster

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For You Are Crunchy And Taste Good With Ketchup

quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:
IS THERE SOME PART OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST DON'T QUITE GET? I TRY TO IGNORE YOUR IGNORANCE. I HAVE ANSWERED EVERY SINGLE QUESTION YOU HAVE EVERY ASK ME. IF IT WAS POORING RAIN OUTSIDE AND I TOLD YOU IT WAS. YOU WOULD QUESTION IT.

DO NOT--DO NOT--ADDRESS ANOTHER QUESTION TO ME OR MENTION MY NAME OR MAKE REFERENCE TO ME ON OTHER THREADS OF ALLSTOCKS OR OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS. NOW IS THERE ANY PART OF THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF THE FACT THAT A FRAUD INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN INSTIGATED BY MYSELF ON MY OWN INTERNET ACCOUNT THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF--I WILL PROCECUTE TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW ON INTERNET FRAUD AND/OR SLANDER THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED AND THAT YOU AND OR ANYONE ELSE ARE PART OF/AND/OR CO-CONSPIRATOR TO? EVEN AS A CO-CONSPIRATOR TO INTERNET FRAUD YOU CAN GO TO JAIL FOR 15 YEARS FOR THE 1ST OFFENCE? DO YOU KNOW THAT TRYING TO STEAL SOMEONE'S INTERNET IDENTITY AND E-MAIL THRU THIER E-MAIL IS A FELONY? DO YOU KNOW THAT CUTTING AND PASTING AND EDITING ORIGINAL POSTS AND ADDING KNOWN FALSE INFORMATION ON A MESSAGE BOARD IS A FELONY? WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NEED SPELLED OUT FOR YOU? IS THERE ANY PART OF--THIS HAS BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE FBI FOR FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS BY MY INTERNET SERVER AT MY REQUEST THAT YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH UNDERSTANDING? WHAT PART OF- EVERYTHING YOU AND A FEW OTHERS DO AND SAY ON THIS BOARD, IS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR INTERNET FRAUD? NOW DO WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE--I AM THE SAME PERSON AND HAVE THE SAME E-MAIL FOR 10 YEARS. I DON'T GIVE A F*&K WHERE YOU GO. JUST DO NOT ADDRESS ME IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR MANNER. THE INVESTIGATORS WILL HANDLE IT FROM HERE. IT IS OUT OF MY HANDS.

NOW--WHO'S YOUR DADDY???



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Penny, Could it be all the negative and derogatory posts on your part? You have instigated the majority of the crap on here.
And from my understanding with what Di posted just a few minutes ago, sounds like big trouble to me and maybe, I REPEAT, MAYBE, .....oh why should I explain it further. Just read other posts, pennytrader!!

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Thats it, I'm clearing some funds right now to play the subpenny bounce. I think Q has enough BS left in them to bounce this out of subpenny land one more time if it gets there.
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Man I'm just not going to worry about this stock no more. I'm just gonna hold and just forget about it for about 3 months. Hopefully when I look at the stock again I will be pleased. GLTA, it's gonna happen we just got to keep waiting and waiting and waiting. This is Q-nique signing off. GL
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Now Everybody, Lets Back off this subject and get back on track.....QBID is the Subject!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The DragonMaster


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quote:
Originally posted by qnique:
MAN WHEN IS THE LAUNCH? FALL, JULY 1ST,16th, WHEN?

Their mention of "fall" in this hotline update is merely stating that BY fall they will have cable providers to cover a majority of the US. Launch is still scheduled for July as far as I'm concerned.

But I agree...this update will send us to sub-penny land for a little bit. They make it sound like that joint PR with the "confirmed" major carrier wont be put out this week either.


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This is the highest volume we've seen for awhile. I don't like the blaming the price plunge on day traders. I still have confidence long term, but feeling a bit manipulated. There is always 4 fingers pointing back.

dz

quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
WTF. They made a hotline update to whine about day traders??? They promised a PR with concrete news about contracts that have been signed, instead we get some thief's resume. Of course the pps tanked. So how do they respond? "It's the daytraders..wahh.." I can't get through to the hotline myself, but if that's really what it says, I'm amazed. Of course there are also people here still talking about MM's keeping the price low so they can load up. I guess they've been doing that for the last 6 months? Maybe reality will sink in some day. Jeez....

-R



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.0104 im speechless..
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Whoa....wait a minute....penny trader did not post any email. I posted that without the headers. I repeat, I posted that. Get your facts straight.

Are we getting kinda jumpy, Dragon? I think I would be getting a little worried then. I know for sure that AOL has done their investigation because I got a letter stating that and I have been cleared. Not only did AOL get it started, they did find fraud and it has been turned over to the fraudulent department.


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BTW - The explaination of their website saying "PLEASE CHECK OUR HOTLINE FOR INFO FROM FRANK OLSEN" is that the messages are coming from him everytime there is an update, not that he is speaking on the hotline.

Maybe its time for another CA for me.

[This message has been edited by 1BigTip (edited June 29, 2004).]


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1BigTip

May I reiterate what an important contribution your hotline update transcripts are? I can't type fast enough. I can't even scribble fast enough. And I retain about 1/2 of what I hear the first time. This way we can digest the information at our own pace.

The overall spirit of Allstocks is "sharing", and you help display that, much unlike those few with the "I know something you don't know" attitude.

Thanks. We all owe you a chalupa. Of course, you'll be busy writing down what everyone is saying at the party. (And there WILL be a party. It's either gonna be in Vegas , or we're all gonna go visit Frank ).

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June 29, 2004 UPDATE 1min 20sec.(est.)


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So everyone that diana has sent an e-mail too is going to be investigated?
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quote:
Originally posted by realityinc21:

IS THERE SOME PART OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST DON'T QUITE GET? I TRY TO IGNORE YOUR IGNORANCE. I HAVE ANSWERED EVERY SINGLE QUESTION YOU HAVE EVERY ASK ME. IF IT WAS POORING RAIN OUTSIDE AND I TOLD YOU IT WAS. YOU WOULD QUESTION IT.
DO NOT--DO NOT--ADDRESS ANOTHER QUESTION TO ME OR MENTION MY NAME OR MAKE REFERENCE TO ME ON OTHER THREADS OF ALLSTOCKS OR OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS. NOW IS THERE ANY PART OF THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF THE FACT THAT A FRAUD INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN INSTIGATED BY MYSELF ON MY OWN INTERNET ACCOUNT THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND? IS THERE ANY PART OF--I WILL PROCECUTE TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW ON INTERNET FRAUD AND/OR SLANDER THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED AND THAT YOU AND OR ANYONE ELSE ARE PART OF/AND/OR CO-CONSPIRATOR TO? EVEN AS A CO-CONSPIRATOR TO INTERNET FRAUD YOU CAN GO TO JAIL FOR 15 YEARS FOR THE 1ST OFFENCE? DO YOU KNOW THAT TRYING TO STEAL SOMEONE'S INTERNET IDENTITY AND E-MAIL THRU THIER E-MAIL IS A FELONY? DO YOU KNOW THAT CUTTING AND PASTING AND EDITING ORIGINAL POSTS AND ADDING KNOWN FALSE INFORMATION ON A MESSAGE BOARD IS A FELONY? WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NEED SPELLED OUT FOR YOU? IS THERE ANY PART OF--THIS HAS BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE FBI FOR FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS BY MY INTERNET SERVER AT MY REQUEST THAT YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH UNDERSTANDING? WHAT PART OF- EVERYTHING YOU AND A FEW OTHERS DO AND SAY ON THIS BOARD, IS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR INTERNET FRAUD? NOW DO WE UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE--I AM THE SAME PERSON AND HAVE THE SAME E-MAIL FOR 10 YEARS. I DON'T GIVE A F*&K WHERE YOU GO. JUST DO NOT ADDRESS ME IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR MANNER. THE INVESTIGATORS WILL HANDLE IT FROM HERE. IT IS OUT OF MY HANDS.

NOW--WHO'S YOUR DADDY???


Good Grief, what's she talking about. Obviously, IMHO, there was someone there and she doesn't want to tell us about it. Why else attack like that. If there were someone else there, wouldn't that explain the source of some of this information and that would verify thie infomraion, not that I need any verification, but verify it for those who lost good money because of this.

If I'm mistaken about that, then why not just give a direct answer, YES or NO!!! Are you scared someone can prove you wrong? Maybe someone knows a big secret! Trying to scare someone away that can expose the truth.

So someone took over someones coumputer to try to frame them. LOL LOL LOL LOL

From reading some of the post on this board, I hate to say, someone here will actually believe that.

>>>>> ALL OF THIS JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE ASKED..... <<<<<
"if you where by yourself at the q office"

HELP, I can't stop laughing
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOl !!!


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I'm telling you people! I would keep to your own business and leave any talk about fraud or leagal process off this or any board. You may if you do not have proof of any wrong doing be bring on problems of your own!
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WinsumLosesum, you're the first person I'm buying a drink for.

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May I reiterate what an important contribution your hotline update transcripts are? I can't type fast enough. I can't even scribble fast enough. And I retain about 1/2 of what I hear the first time. This way we can digest the information at our own pace.

The overall spirit of Allstocks is "sharing", and you help display that, much unlike those few with the "I know something you don't know" attitude.

Thanks. We all owe you a chalupa. Of course, you'll be busy writing down what everyone is saying at the party. (And there WILL be a party. It's either gonna be in Vegas , or we're all gonna go visit Frank ).



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