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By: firefight4 07 Apr 2004, 11:41 AM EDT Msg. 1016 of 1017 Jump to msg. # Just spoke to the transfer agent, Pink Sheet stocks do not have to follow NASD rules with regards to dividends. April 9th is the date. Today or tomorrow is the last day for people to get in for the free shares in CSJJ! Posts: 783 | From: Ottawa, Canada | Registered: Feb 2004
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Salemm - use Ameritrade. My buddy in Edmonton uses them up there with no problem. I've never had a problem with them either - except that day everyone did will all the online brokers a few months ago- like JAn. I think Posts: 2793 | From: Coral Springs, FL, USA | Registered: Aug 2003
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I still say something smells funny with this company, not that they aren't legit, but I don't get that the shareholders are any where near thier primary interest. Seems like a bait and hook. Two weeks ago I suggested that shares were sold when ever a PR would be released because someone knew that there would be liquidity. The PPS was driven down as the public bought. Now CDVJ is buying back shares. Will be interesting to see what the price of this CSJJ div. opens at and if we are able to trade immediately. Seems as though there has been a tremendous amount of minipulation going.
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quote:Originally posted by denzen: I still say something smells funny with this company, not that they aren't legit, but I don't get that the shareholders are any where near thier primary interest. Seems like a bait and hook. Two weeks ago I suggested that shares were sold when ever a PR would be released because someone knew that there would be liquidity. The PPS was driven down as the public bought. Now CDVJ is buying back shares. Will be interesting to see what the price of this CSJJ div. opens at and if we are able to trade immediately. Seems as though there has been a tremendous amount of minipulation going.
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denzen, i was saying the same thing...PAVP/CDVJ seems to be covering their asses a bit too much. First, they accredited everything to MM manipulation, which I DO believe was ocurring. Now they will accredit the dropping PPS to the buyback being initiated. I dont know... this is getting a bit silly. i think for a company that really needs to get its act together, they are taking on too many extraneous projects!
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btw, did nyone talk to Steve Taylor about them adding more shares to the market just a few days before announcing the buyback? Im curious as to his opinion on the matter
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Hippo... A fellow poster called Andrea about that and he responded something about needing some liquidity. Shares are restricted... and needed to pay professional fees, etc... Sounds bamboozling... salemm.
quote:Originally posted by The Hippo: btw, did nyone talk to Steve Taylor about them adding more shares to the market just a few days before announcing the buyback? Im curious as to his opinion on the matter
What they say they are working on and 'in the works' sounds great, but you'd think they'd manage the PR about the name change better, among other things... Lets hope Monday brings some positive noteworthy news....
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I do not understand why the PPS would decrease when the Co. is buying back a % of OSS. Increased demand I was taught means decrease supply and increase in price. Unless they issued more shares when the price was way up and are buying them back at the bottom Just wondering??????????????
How about calling St Hubert airport and asking about the hangers etc.???
I cant wait to see how this pans out. Dave
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Anyone fully understand the purpose of the(csjj) shell co. purchase? I remember the post about it helping gain otc status but how does it fit in with the new symbol ect? Will it be a stock u would just sell or what? I bought @ .004 and don't care when I get out as long as it's over .007 which looks easy w/free shares if they hold their value. We may get back there w/out free shares I really don't have a clue what the hell's going on here. I'm confused at this stage. Thought I would be out before now. Help!!! Posts: 69 | From: waynesville,ga,usa | Registered: Feb 2004
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PAVP (now CDVJ) is a REAL-ESTATE DEVELOPMENT company. They bought the fingerprint technology and decided to 'start' a new company with that also... cause real-estate and fingerprints don't really match well under the same umbrella. So, they bought CSJJ shell and put the fingerprint technology in there. Now, they control 2 companies: CDVJ and CSJJ. Because they bought CSJJ with PAVP (now CDVJ) money... they are giving us free shares of that company (1 for every 100). So, as a shareholder of CDVJ, you're invested in real-estate AND fingerprinting technology. I've heard that the free shares we're getting in CSJJ are NEW shares. About 10 million of them. SO, outstanding shares of CSJJ will grow to include these 10 million shares.... thus, in my opinion... and Hippo's mentioned this before, CSJJ is most-likely to experience a decrease in pps soon. salemm.
quote:Originally posted by buyrsell: Anyone fully understand the purpose of the(csjj) shell co. purchase? I remember the post about it helping gain otc status but how does it fit in with the new symbol ect? Will it be a stock u would just sell or what? I bought @ .004 and don't care when I get out as long as it's over .007 which looks easy w/free shares if they hold their value. We may get back there w/out free shares I really don't have a clue what the hell's going on here. I'm confused at this stage. Thought I would be out before now. Help!!!
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Andrea also stated yesterday that management has NOT YET decided (as of yesterday)whether shares of CSJJ will be restricted for a year or not (meaning you can or can't sell them for a year) The concern, of course, is that there might be massive selling of CSJJ right after April 9... from people who got the free shares and want 'outta-here!'. salemm.
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quote:Originally posted by salemm: Andrea also stated yesterday that management has NOT YET decided (as of yesterday)whether shares of CSJJ will be restricted for a year or not (meaning you can or can't sell them for a year) The concern, of course, is that there might be massive selling of CSJJ right after April 9... from people who got the free shares and want 'outta-here!'. salemm.
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quote:Originally posted by salemm: Andrea also stated yesterday that management has NOT YET decided (as of yesterday)whether shares of CSJJ will be restricted for a year or not (meaning you can or can't sell them for a year) The concern, of course, is that there might be massive selling of CSJJ right after April 9... from people who got the free shares and want 'outta-here!'. salemm.
Could be the next Icge or cmgi! lol Thanks for the info.
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realperson, that is the intention: The buyback would cause PPS to increase simply because there are less shares out there. Oftentimes, a company announces the buyback but USUALLY doesnt give the dates. Meanwhile, prices seem to remain artificially low even though volume is high. They may be working with MMs, etc, but the price doesnt really rise on volume. In this manner, the company buys back stocks at the LOW price. This is my understanding of the concept. I think Im right, but I may be wrong! There could be manipulation NONE of us know about
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I think you got it with you last statement If you announce it and increase demand the price would have to be manipulted somehow to keep it down. If you were to buy 10 Mil shares what would it do to the price right now.?????
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quote:Originally posted by realperson: I think you got it with you last statement If you announce it and increase demand the price would have to be manipulted somehow to keep it down. If you were to buy 10 Mil shares what would it do to the price right now.?????
real, they dont buy 10 million all at once lol. Too often people see a buy back as one and done shtick... They can take months to complete, and they are gradual!!
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No If you or I were to buy 10 Mil could the MM's still keep the price down???
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I like the way they moved the PPS of CSJJ down at the close Im getting the hang of this MM thing
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Speaking of Hanged - or Hung: Can you believe that off-key crazy William Hung from American Idol has a record contract and an album out and he's NOW the most downloaded person on the internet????? HONEST! Doing the Jay Leno Letterman and all the MOrning Shows Circuit....
For any who DON'T know who he is - he's the type if you watch the Idol tryouts you ask - "What the heck is that fool doing there embarrassing himself"?
Where did WE go wrong??
"She Bangs She Bangs" - But we CDVJ holders are getting banged with our pants ON!
I got back from Miami and see that little changed and volume was very low again.
Good Luck All Steve
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quote:Originally posted by CGHitman14: Just got a quick question about PAVP shareholders aquiring shares of CSJJ:
"PAVP shareholders will benefit from this acquisition of CSJJ. Shares of CSJJ will be distributed to PAVP shareholders of record as of the close of business on April 9, 2004. PAVP shareholders will receive 1 share of CSJJ common stock for every 100 shares of PAVP common stock owned. There will be no change to PAVP shareholders' positions. "
It just seems too easy. I have 330,000 shares of PAVP so I should get 3,300 shares of CSJJ for free, and at .047 that's a little bit over $1500 added to my portfolio. Is it really that easy or is there some catch to it somewhere?
I would just think that if it were that easy people would just buy PAVP just to get the shares of CSJJ and then they would dump both to take a nice profit...
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That answers my question
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OT: Another OTC ( VILW) Biometric company ...
Biometrics 2000 CEO, Joe Turek, Interviewed by Boston Globe
SPRINGFIELD, Mass.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 7, 2004--Biometrics 2000 (OTCBB:VILW - News) is pleased to announce that CEO Joe Turek was recently featured in an article about Biometrics in the Boston Globe. The article outlines the government's need for expanded use of biometrics for homeland defense and the overall advancement of the science being crucial to assist in the safety of America. For the full article, visit http://www.boston.com/business/technology/.
"I receive several calls a month to give advice and interviews," Turek said. "I think it's a combination of reasons. First is clearly our name `Biometrics 2000' produces a lot of calls when people are looking to get more information. Second is our participation on several committees for the Security Industry Association. Third would be our participation on the Homeland Security Advisory Board for SIA. Another reason could be that we participate in discussions on Identity Theft, Border Crossing, Airport Security and General Access Security with Federal, State and Private Organizations."
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Joseph Turek, CEO of Biometrics, stated, "Partnering with Security First gives Biometrics 2000 the ability to provide complete security solutions to small and large enterprises, military and government installations. With this arrangement, we can secure the data, monitor access and deliver accurate employee time and attendance in all facilities. Security First not only has patented sensing devices, but also has patented data management software."
Biometrics 2000 and Security First Announce Formal Strategic Partnership
SPRINGFIELD, Mass.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 17, 2004--Biometrics 2000 (OTCBB:VILW - News) and Security First Corporation are pleased to announce that after working together for the last several years, a formal strategic partnership has been approved and finalized.
Mark O'Hare of Security First Corporation stated, "We are excited about this relationship with Biometrics 2000. It gives us a platform to bring Security First Corp. biometric technology to the access control market. While Security First Corporation has impressive biometric solutions and technology, we have been lacking a presence in the Access Control Market. Together with Biometrics 2000, we will be in a position to bring Access Control Solutions using our technology to the market."
About Biometrics 2000 Biometrics 2000 is a company that develops identification and security products that recognize people through their unique characteristics such as fingerprints. Fingerprint readers solve the significant problems associated with traditional access methods from a security standpoint. Fingerprint technology also will be preferred in the future over other methods such as smart cards, magnetic stripe cards and conventional keys all of which can be lost or stolen.
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By: mustafa8701 07 Apr 2004, 05:23 PM EDT Msg. 1369 of 1384 Jump to msg. # I e-mailed the airport manager, Michel Beaudoin. I asked him what he knew about the company Groupe Leclerc working with CortDev to make the airport drawings/drafts. Here is the response:
"This firm is base in the city of St. Hubert on the south shore of Montreal. What I heard of it, it is a good firm."
This tells us that CortDev almost certainly did indeed choose a good company to work with in the current stage of their business.
I e-mailed Groupe Leclerc with a few questions as well and will post any response I get.
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