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poorman
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quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
Salemm - he's supposedly still in Tel Aviv. With our pps at .0021 now, and a bunch of MMS lined up at .002 - He damn well better be 'taking care of business'.

I thought the IBZT that' I bought in January would bail me out of my losses here today. But it's kinda sitting stagnant.
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Good Luck


Hey Love Good to see you made it back. you seem a lot calmer, hope the weekend with the kids went well.


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quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
Salemm - I thought the IBZT that' I bought in January would bail me out of my losses here today. But it's kinda sitting stagnant. ;-(

I rather it be slow and steady then jumping up and down - a little consistancy is what we need right now...


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Thanks Poorman! Everything went well. Even the weather cooperated for the most part. I can't believe all the festivities are over already. Was emotional - for sure! HAve a good night.

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A question to the people of cdvj. If you had $10,000 would you get into CDVJ at these levels? I know I would get the free shares but I love the company and I love these levels. I already own shares but I really think that pps is cheap at these levels. I have said all along that the airport is the key. Opinions?
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Hmmmm...

Well while everyone was complaining about the stock, I bought about 2 grand worth at .004

I recommend you call the company and see if you can find out how the trip went. If you get a good feeling then I think its a good investment but you must do some extra DD first. Based on what we know now, its not enough for a 10grand investment. I would put in 2grand personally unless you get more info.


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I just called CDVJ (973-351-3868) to fing out about how and when I get my free shares.
Basicly he said after the second cut off date the records will pulled and shareholders of date will be notified.
He also said that it if you got out after the first date and back in for the second date you would get the free shares on each position.
Someone may wnanna comfirm that, but if its as it seems CDVJ may be a good trade for May
Dave

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Sure would be nice to see some PR today. For some reason I feel one coming.
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quote:
Originally posted by flemdog:
Sure would be nice to see some PR today. For some reason I feel one coming.

So you want the stock to drop some more? :P


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What is the second date we need to hold by to get more spin off shares?
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May 19th.
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quote:
Originally posted by emunahstock:
What is the second date we need to hold by to get more spin off shares?


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Flemdog - are you serious? I wouldn't put $10,000 in ANY Pink, or even an OTC. I was, as were many, soooooo SURE Ibiz was going to run yesterday on the keyboard shipping news. Yeah - it ran. BACKWARDS. I still love Ibiz though - and when I got caught and stuck here back on March 9th I was just trying to make some more QUICK money to buy even more IBZT!

I'd put $2,000 in each of 5 stocks. Right now those 5 would be QBID near .011, LBTT near .012, WNMI near .011, IBZT near .026 and this, CDVJ near .0022 - ALL for short term plays. I'VE learned the hard way. Date the sucker - DON'T marry it. And you can date it many times over if it's being good to you! (Putting Out)! LOL ;-)

THIS thing WAS .0008 BEFORE it ran to .024

Nobody is sure it will go back to even .01 in the near future. It very well could go to .001 - I hope not because my average is .011, but I'm looking to avg. down to .006 if I can get 225,000 at .0022

But who knows. I don't know your financial position, and it's none of my business. But unless you're filthy rich, you shouldn't even have $10,000 in pennies. (But IF I had tons of money - I don't think I'd want to play anything BUT pennies and Options. That's the gambler in me talkin' now)!

Good Luck.

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I've actually made a HUGE mistake for believing in this company and the CEO and put almost all my money into this one at .013 ($55K) expecting it to go at the .02s.. well PR after PR, it kept dwindleing down. After talking to the CEO, he gave me the confidence to keep holding before I decided to sell when I could have.. well.. this guy talks alot of hype.. and does so on every PR, and it really is depressing to loose this much as I had to sell over $50 grand at a 75% loss. Will I get back in to recover? Well I personally dont trust someone who has a serious criminal record. I still am seeking a lawsuit against this company as it has been playing very fishy games. There has been soo many people who had lost more.. Whomever cashed in must be someone in the INSIDE that knew the outcome of this stock.. and that person is the CEO who was the key influence of whats been going on with this dark pit of a pinky. But I still hold 2 shares (apparently still in my portfolio since it didnt sell everything) I am seeking justice with this. This has been the biggest looser of a stock all year and nobody really has much confidence to jump back in after loosing as much as they have. I think youd feel the same way if you've lost as much as I have. And believe me, it has hurt too many peoples pocketbooks.
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BEWARE - Basher on board!!!
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Don't know much 'bout nuthin'.... but putting 55K on PAVP at .013 is soooooo nonsensical... it's hard to actually believe!
And then you sold!! For a 75% loss!? What for? You can't wait a little? That kind of money will buy patience ANYWHERE!! At least 2 or 3 month's worth. My opinion? Yer bull$hittin' your way on them 'ere boards.
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I guess I will be labeled a basher too. I also am down 78.71% on this 'investment'. Many people do invest large sums of money in a few stocks. Don't be so quick to call another a basher of lier because you disagree or doubt what they are saying. As far as bashing goes name calling is bashing. Telling about you actual experience with a stock is why we are here. My experience with this company makes me not want to buy more even at this price. When it clearly starts to move up I will average down and hopefully sell at break even. This company was deceptive. They were diluting the daylights out the stock and turned many into 'stuckholders'. DD-IMO-GLTA-Debi
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quote:
Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me:
I guess I will be labeled a basher too. I also am down 78.71% on this 'investment'. Many people do invest large sums of money in a few stocks. Don't be so quick to call another a basher of lier because you disagree or doubt what they are saying. As far as bashing goes name calling is bashing. Telling about you actual experience with a stock is why we are here. My experience with this company makes me not want to buy more even at this price. When it clearly starts to move up I will average down and hopefully sell at break even. This company was deceptive. They were diluting the daylights out the stock and turned many into 'stuckholders'. DD-IMO-GLTA-Debi

You had a decent post until the last sentence. You say reporting ones expeience with a stock is not bashing and I tend to agree. But making a statement that they are "diluting the daylights out of the stock" without proof crosses the line. I've got about $5,700 in this one at an average price of .0078 and although my exposure isn't as much as recent posters I'm also disappointed with the stock performance. But I have no idea as to the reason for the decline. There MAY be dilution. There MAY be manipulation. But it could just as easily be lack of demand. It's OK to state facts that are verifiable, but please make sure opinion and speculation is clearly labeled as such.

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Wisetrader ... I also have been thinking of contacting my attorneys. If you speak to yours can you please post on the thread? You are correct in saying something "fishy" went on, but I still think the stock can bounce. GLTA

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You had a decent post until the last sentence. You say reporting ones expeience with a stock is not bashing and I tend to agree. But making a statement that they are "diluting the daylights out of the stock" without proof crosses the line. I've got about $5,700 in this one at an average price of .0078 and although my exposure isn't as much as recent posters I'm also disappointed with the stock performance. But I have no idea as to the reason for the decline. There MAY be dilution. There MAY be manipulation. But it could just as easily be lack of demand. It's OK to state facts that are verifiable, but please make sure opinion and speculation is clearly labeled as such.

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Gator Man-Thanks for the challenge to back up my words. I thought the share count would be right on the pink sheets page but I knew it was posted wrong so I went to the company website www.cort-dev.com and then clicked the Investor Relations icon. It gave Stephen Taylors email address and phone number. He is president of Taylor Captital, Inc and is the person CDVJ has for investor relations. I asked him the outstanding share count for CDVJ and he gave it as about 1.5 Billion. I then asked him if it was 34.8 Million back in January 2004. He didn't know the number 34.8 in January as being correct although that is the number at pink sheets. But he did say they had issued shares. I would say that the amount of that issue 'diluted the daylights' out of this stock. It may be a somewhat subjective term. I actually liked the company and had been in at the beginning around .0008 I think. But I bought more all the way up to .016 or so. So I do feel like a 'stuckholder'. If they had been a little more upfront about the number of shares tehy were issuing and why, I could have made an informed decision. I would possibly have either sold, not purchsed more or if the dilution was to help the business move forward and add value for the shareholders, I may have purchased more especially at these lower prices. GLTA-DD-IMO- I hope the best for all -We all buy stock to make money and Gator man I do respect your input on these boards. I can be guilty of just opining and not posting te DD-I am ususally watching too many things at once. -Debi


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WWJD: Thanks for the information. I withdraw my objection . Good DD! And good posts. Also, thanks for the kind words. I do try to keep things sane around here.

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Salemm -

As UNBELIEVEABLE as it would seems (at least to those of us who LIKE our money and would care to multiply it rather than give it away)I have seen people on the RB thread post their buys of PAVP/CDVJ.

Some have 6 - 9 Million at avg. costs of as high as .007 to .012 - Do the math and you wonder what makes some people tick. Of all the 10's of 1000's of stocks out there, Who would put more than a few grand of PURE Gambling money into a pink.......


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Good point Debi... Perhaps Mr. Wise DID invest 55k... and in fact, this has been a very respectable forum, so why should I question his numbers, even just in jest...

I guess I take exception though, to:

"I still am seeking a lawsuit against this company as it has been playing very fishy games. There has been soo many people who had lost more.. Whomever cashed in must be someone in the INSIDE that knew the outcome of this stock.. and that person is the CEO who was the key influence of whats been going on with this dark pit of a pinky."

That kind of statement should not be posted. Why, because it only contains a bunch of KEY, inflammatory words (such as LAWSUIT, DARK PIT OF A PINKY, INSIDE/CEO)... and insinuate very strongly that something illegal was done. Mr. Wise... and for that matter, everyone else who is not INSIDE, does not know jack squat about what went on. 'Something fishy'? Geez... I've never owned a pink or OTC stock that WASN'T. Partly because I don't understand all the issues related to maintaining a publicly listed company, and partly because, in business, you gotta do what you gotta do to survive, and fishyness is part of the game. As investors of pink stocks, we are NOT privy to all info... it goes with the territory. Most of the time though, the fishyness is in the shareholders benefit... and nobody complains then. I'm not teaching anyone anything new there.

Did they add shares? YES, they did. How else are they supposed to raise money to spend on those biotechs in Israel(they need 5 million for that) The number now stands at 1,137 billion shares, confirmed by the transfer agent. This number has not changed in 5 weeks. Nobody knows the outcome of this stock... not EVEN the CEO.
Speaking of the CEO:
Here's a message that sums up EXACTLY how I feel:
He worked the Israel Biotech deals for CSJJ. He is working a OTCBB shell for CDVJ/CSJJ to roll into. He is looking for office real estate in Texas and in Canada. He is trying to get larger planes into St-Hubert Airport. He was in NY working on Fuel Farms in NY/NJ. He used shares to finance part of these deals. That's all what I heard from third parties. His pr's and others say he is buying back stock. JIF was contacted this week and they said he met with them this week. I don't know where the share price will go but he is making a lot of work for himself if his goal is just to rip people off. There are many pennies doing nothing where the CEO answers the phone all day and nothing is getting done. Every third party I speak too says he is always working on a project -you decide if that is good or bad.

Those, Debi, are facts, from PRs, transfer agent, CEO himself, PR guy Steve T.... and if we are to believe Mr.Wise who bought 55k worth... why can't we believe the company?? Perhaps we could afford them the same courtesy we extend Mr. Wise, no?
salemm.
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I guess I will be labeled a basher too. I also am down 78.71% on this 'investment'. Many people do invest large sums of money in a few stocks. Don't be so quick to call another a basher of lier because you disagree or doubt what they are saying. As far as bashing goes name calling is bashing. Telling about you actual experience with a stock is why we are here. My experience with this company makes me not want to buy more even at this price. When it clearly starts to move up I will average down and hopefully sell at break even. This company was deceptive. They were diluting the daylights out the stock and turned many into 'stuckholders'. DD-IMO-GLTA-Debi [/QUOTE]

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NEWS!!

Coastal Holdings, Inc. Acquires Major Stake in Vetdermal Systems Limited
5/5/04


HOUSTON, May 05, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) --
Coastal Holdings, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CSJJ) is pleased to announce the acquisition of a major stake in Vetdermal Systems Limited, an England-based company that is developing an innovative drug delivery system for animals. Vetdermal's novel drug dosage system is based on
a unique technology platform originally developed in Israel. The company is planning drug trials in the coming months with strategic partners in the industry.

Mr. Mayir Asher, Vetdermal CFO, said that he was very excited about this new investment from Coastal Holdings and believed that this would contribute to the company's future development in both Europe and the United States. Coastal Holdings CEO, Mr. Andrea Cortellazzi, said that this investment is a major step forward in the growth strategy of the company. Vetdermal Systems is a good fit with respect to our mission to become a dominant, leading-edge technology holding company.

Please be aware that all CortDev, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CDVJ) shareholders will receive CSJJ shares based on the settled CDVJ shares in their account(s) on the May 19 date of record. CDVJ shareholders will receive 1 restricted share of CSJJ common stock for every 100 shares of CDVJ common stock owned.

For further information please contact CEO Andrea Cortellazzi at (514) 830-3348 on Monday after his return from Tel-Aviv, Israel.

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NEWS:

Coastal Holdings, Inc. Acquires Major Stake in Vetdermal Systems Limited
Wednesday May 5, 2:16 pm ET


HOUSTON, May 5, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- Coastal Holdings, Inc. (Other OTC:CSJJ.PK - News) is pleased to announce the acquisition of a major stake in Vetdermal Systems Limited, an England-based company that is developing an innovative drug delivery system for animals. Vetdermal's novel drug dosage system is based on a unique technology platform originally developed in Israel. The company is planning drug trials in the coming months with strategic partners in the industry.
Mr. Mayir Asher, Vetdermal CFO, said that he was very excited about this new investment from Coastal Holdings and believed that this would contribute to the company's future development in both Europe and the United States. Coastal Holdings CEO, Mr. Andrea Cortellazzi, said that this investment is a major step forward in the growth strategy of the company. Vetdermal Systems is a good fit with respect to our mission to become a dominant, leading-edge technology holding company.

Please be aware that all CortDev, Inc. (Other OTC:CDVJ.PK - News) shareholders will receive CSJJ shares based on the settled CDVJ shares in their account(s) on the May 19 date of record. CDVJ shareholders will receive 1 restricted share of CSJJ common stock for every 100 shares of CDVJ common stock owned.

ADVERTISEMENT


For further information please contact CEO Andrea Cortellazzi at (514) 830-3348 on Monday after his return from Tel-Aviv, Israel.

Forward-Looking Statements

Please be advised that statements made herein, other than historical data, constitute forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those stated or implied by such forward-looking statements. The potential risks and uncertainties include, among others, potential volatility in the company's stock price, increased competition, customer acceptance of new products and services offered by the company, and uncertainty of future revenue and profitability and fluctuations in its quarterly operating results. More information about potential factors that could affect the company's business and financial results may be obtained by contacting the company at by phone at 514-830-3348. Please also be advised that the company's stock is not currently registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Contact:
Coastal Holdings, Inc.
Andrea Cortellazzi
(514) 830-3348
cortdev@sympatico.ca


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I don't want to beat a dead horse but if someone is sharing their experience and part of that experience includes that they are seeking a redress via a lawsuit-that has a place here. The words may be inflammatory but if they are true-he may have a case. He does desrve to be heard. He paid a hefty price for admission. My memory isn't perfect but if they said they were buying back shares while they were issuing them that is deceptive and I would want to join that lawsuit. There are companies that take advantage of investors. Allstocks has been a friendly place to help each other make money and avoid some of the pitfalls of believing every press release. In time we will see if CDVJ is in the printing business or if they have an airport and other businesses up and running. I hope they have real businesses and I make money on this stock. Until the stock price is clearly running I won't put another penny in. DD-IMO-GLTA-Debi
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Why is diluting a legitamate reason to have a lawsuit?? Does the company need our permission to issue more outstanding shares. First of all, they probably issued shares to pay companies instead of using cash. Then they themselves bought back some shares into treasury stock to decrease the o/s and also to make a little cash off of because they knew it was undervalued also. It's not illegal to do both at the same time. You can pay someone with stock and buy your own stock at the same time. Besides, do any of us know the regulations and standards of .pk stocks well enough to say that they weren't allowed by law to pull something like this? I know this sucks. I check this thing everyday to see if it has popped and am just hoping that one day, it will surprise me, but as far as I am concerned, things like this sometimes come with the package when investing in .pk stocks. They don't have the SEC hanging over them with a tight fist like the NAS and NYSE. It's all just my opinion and I will say that the technicals on this stock are looking very good....check out the bollinger bands. I think now is a great time to invest. Give this thing another week or two and it will pop. The question is will it pop back up to the levels where we all bought it....above .01 GLTA


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I don't want to beat a dead horse but if someone is sharing their experience and part of that experience includes that they are seeking a redress via a lawsuit-that has a place here. The words may be inflammatory but if they are true-he may have a case. He does desrve to be heard. He paid a hefty price for admission. My memory isn't perfect but if they said they were buying back shares while they were issuing them that is deceptive and I would want to join that lawsuit. There are companies that take advantage of investors. Allstocks has been a friendly place to help each other make money and avoid some of the pitfalls of believing every press release. In time we will see if CDVJ is in the printing business or if they have an airport and other businesses up and running. I hope they have real businesses and I make money on this stock. Until the stock price is clearly running I won't put another penny in. DD-IMO-GLTA-Debi

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Remember this? A post from April 7th.
This reminds me of a movie.
What was the name of that movie? Oh yea Boiler Room.

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Originally posted by denzen:
I still say something smells funny with this company, not that they aren't legit, but I don't get that the shareholders are any where near thier primary interest. Seems like a bait and hook.
Two weeks ago I suggested that shares were sold when ever a PR would be released because someone knew that there would be liquidity. The PPS was driven down as the public bought. Now CDVJ is buying back shares. Will be interesting to see what the price of this CSJJ div. opens at and if we are able to trade immediately.
Seems as though there has been a tremendous amount of minipulation going.

dz


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Remember this? Posted April 21st.

dz

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Originally posted by denzen:
I don't think it could be any worse than what I already think of him, but yes please post it.

They have continually had PRs that have been confusing, in my opinion. Even their clarifications have left people discussing what they might have meant. PRs come out the stock goes down. Dividend annouced the stock goes down,etc. etc. etc..I still think something is extremely fishy about this company. I beleive there are now lawsuits in the making.Something seems rotten! All the above is my opinion.
Thanks, DZ



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I have stated my experience, and with the amount of money I have lost, I have no reason make things up over here for the sake of "bashing". Some may think its unbelieveable, but to actually loose as much as I have really crushes my confedence on a stock I believed in so much, especially after talking to the CEO on several occasions leading me and many others on. The word "Fishy" was not from me, but in fact was from a PR attorney that deals with stocks and stated that he has never seen a stock that kept going down as fast as this one after every PR the CEO put out. I still do have some shares in my portfolio, but I cant recover or stay in a stock that many have lost their faith and retirement money on after finding out more things about the CEO that I wish wasnt true. Some of you who are in this can consider me a basher.. I have a right to at least tell my experience, and how I have been led on from the CEO himself to "hold this stock because its going to make everybody a TON of money" I held on believing him, with faith in his words, and every PR he put out, it just kept sinking. Another thing is, he kept making so many mistakes, and kept postponeing what was promised. As if he's holding candy in front of everyone, and after everyone bought in, then after the PR, there is a big sell out, and he'd take it away.. then start showing the candy again with another PR, saying this is what you'll get with some free Shares from a shell stock if you buy in before this date, then another big sell off..., with news that the date has been extended...more selloffs, then more PRs.. same thing... it did not stop!All the way down to the low .002s is really the most depressing thing a big shareholder can ever experience. As much as I've lost.. I have every right to share and speak out my experience on what I've went through and how much I've lost. So call me a "basher" if you wish. If I had some good things to say about it, I would. This stock got me so worried, that I was afraid of the next good PR because it would probably do the same thing as history keeps repeating itself. In fact, it took another dip with a new PR on the 5th. Talk about Pump and Dump from the CEO himself. Someone in the inside has been playing and cashing in, and it seems like that person is becomeing more and more obvious. So much money has been lost from many shareholders, including myself... and that money going into somoene's Pocket. And its certainly not with those who believed in the company and averaging down in hopes of the next big PR. There are enough people who have reported to the SEC that they are investigating after so many complaints about this company and its shares. Im not going to loose all this money and stay quiet until this investigation has been completed. Again, sorry for those who think Im "Bashing". I have lawyers including several people who were big fishes like me who put so much into this, that we are grouping together to take this to court. Andrea, I'm sure your reading all the boards relating to your company, just because you have a P.O. box for a company address, doesnt mean you can hide somewhere out of the states and takeing advantage of this new Pink venture you have going on here. Your in for a serious investigation and we are taking this to court. Already he is the CEO with a criminal history with his last scam he pulled off as many bought into the private schooling that is haunting him and his reputation. This is just his latest, and he is being watched by many shareholders who are stuck with not much left over and wanting answers. But we can all hope for the best right? Nothing too solid as of yet, lots of great PRs, lots of hype from the CEO on the phone, and still is sinking. Bottom line, nothing serious will start happening until something concreet and real starts to happen at the Airport. Words can only do so much. Good Luck to all!!
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Can you really say you held the stock and gave it a chance after having it only about a month??? The pps dropped because of the increase of o/s probably, but who would not be patient enough when it's $55,000 selling at a 75% loss to wait a few months to see what happens. I still say this stock WILL POP. Call me crazy.

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WiseTrader,
I've owned stock in hundereds of various companies over the past few years, and have lost money in many of them. Some I've followed and still own that have been in bankrupt position for years. With only a few, did I feel like I got blatently scammed like I do with CDVJ. With the others I realized after the fact, not during the time it was happening.I have also, for several weeks, said that something seemed fishy about this company.

I decided yesterday, before I saw your post and the latest PR, that I didn't want to be associated with this company, and the people that run it anymore. I sold with over a 75% loss( 3k + ) also. I tried to hold out until yhe NEXT dividend date, but realized, that I wish I hadn't stayed for the first one, and didn't want any of their stinking dividend anymore.I also figured tax loss to balance other gains, and use money that's left, for other investments in companies I believe in.

Good luck to you, and thanks for sharing your experience. That's gotta hurt.

Good luck to all of the people that are sticking with this company, hope it works out for you.

dz

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Originally posted by WiseTrader:
I have stated my experience, and with the amount of money I have lost, I have no reason make things up over here for the sake of "bashing". Some may think its unbelieveable, but to actually loose as much as I have really crushes my confedence on a stock I believed in so much, especially after talking to the CEO on several occasions leading me and many others on. The word "Fishy" was not from me, but in fact was from a PR attorney that deals with stocks and stated that he has never seen a stock that kept going down as fast as this one after every PR the CEO put out. I still do have some shares in my portfolio, but I cant recover or stay in a stock that many have lost their faith and retirement money on after finding out more things about the CEO that I wish wasnt true. Some of you who are in this can consider me a basher.. I have a right to at least tell my experience, and how I have been led on from the CEO himself to "hold this stock because its going to make everybody a TON of money" I held on believing him, with faith in his words, and every PR he put out, it just kept sinking. Another thing is, he kept making so many mistakes, and kept postponeing what was promised. As if he's holding candy in front of everyone, and after everyone bought in, then after the PR, there is a big sell out, and he'd take it away.. then start showing the candy again with another PR, saying this is what you'll get with some free Shares from a shell stock if you buy in before this date, then another big sell off..., with news that the date has been extended...more selloffs, then more PRs.. same thing... it did not stop!All the way down to the low .002s is really the most depressing thing a big shareholder can ever experience. As much as I've lost.. I have every right to share and speak out my experience on what I've went through and how much I've lost. So call me a "basher" if you wish. If I had some good things to say about it, I would. This stock got me so worried, that I was afraid of the next good PR because it would probably do the same thing as history keeps repeating itself. In fact, it took another dip with a new PR on the 5th. Talk about Pump and Dump from the CEO himself. Someone in the inside has been playing and cashing in, and it seems like that person is becomeing more and more obvious. So much money has been lost from many shareholders, including myself... and that money going into somoene's Pocket. And its certainly not with those who believed in the company and averaging down in hopes of the next big PR. There are enough people who have reported to the SEC that they are investigating after so many complaints about this company and its shares. Im not going to loose all this money and stay quiet until this investigation has been completed. Again, sorry for those who think Im "Bashing". I have lawyers including several people who were big fishes like me who put so much into this, that we are grouping together to take this to court. Andrea, I'm sure your reading all the boards relating to your company, just because you have a P.O. box for a company address, doesnt mean you can hide somewhere out of the states and takeing advantage of this new Pink venture you have going on here. Your in for a serious investigation and we are taking this to court. Already he is the CEO with a criminal history with his last scam he pulled off as many bought into the private schooling that is haunting him and his reputation. This is just his latest, and he is being watched by many shareholders who are stuck with not much left over and wanting answers. But we can all hope for the best right? Nothing too solid as of yet, lots of great PRs, lots of hype from the CEO on the phone, and still is sinking. Bottom line, nothing serious will start happening until something concreet and real starts to happen at the Airport. Words can only do so much. Good Luck to all!!

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WiseTrader, please keep me posted regarding your lawsuit. That may be more appropriate to do in a separate thread.

I don't want to post here anymore now that I'm no longer holding and I have a negative view point of this company, a perspective I've had since shortly after I got in.

Thanks,

DZ

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Originally posted by WiseTrader:
I have stated my experience, and with the amount of money I have lost, I have no reason make things up over here for the sake of "bashing". Some may think its unbelieveable, but to actually loose as much as I have really crushes my confedence on a stock I believed in so much, especially after talking to the CEO on several occasions leading me and many others on. The word "Fishy" was not from me, but in fact was from a PR attorney that deals with stocks and stated that he has never seen a stock that kept going down as fast as this one after every PR the CEO put out. I still do have some shares in my portfolio, but I cant recover or stay in a stock that many have lost their faith and retirement money on after finding out more things about the CEO that I wish wasnt true. Some of you who are in this can consider me a basher.. I have a right to at least tell my experience, and how I have been led on from the CEO himself to "hold this stock because its going to make everybody a TON of money" I held on believing him, with faith in his words, and every PR he put out, it just kept sinking. Another thing is, he kept making so many mistakes, and kept postponeing what was promised. As if he's holding candy in front of everyone, and after everyone bought in, then after the PR, there is a big sell out, and he'd take it away.. then start showing the candy again with another PR, saying this is what you'll get with some free Shares from a shell stock if you buy in before this date, then another big sell off..., with news that the date has been extended...more selloffs, then more PRs.. same thing... it did not stop!All the way down to the low .002s is really the most depressing thing a big shareholder can ever experience. As much as I've lost.. I have every right to share and speak out my experience on what I've went through and how much I've lost. So call me a "basher" if you wish. If I had some good things to say about it, I would. This stock got me so worried, that I was afraid of the next good PR because it would probably do the same thing as history keeps repeating itself. In fact, it took another dip with a new PR on the 5th. Talk about Pump and Dump from the CEO himself. Someone in the inside has been playing and cashing in, and it seems like that person is becomeing more and more obvious. So much money has been lost from many shareholders, including myself... and that money going into somoene's Pocket. And its certainly not with those who believed in the company and averaging down in hopes of the next big PR. There are enough people who have reported to the SEC that they are investigating after so many complaints about this company and its shares. Im not going to loose all this money and stay quiet until this investigation has been completed. Again, sorry for those who think Im "Bashing". I have lawyers including several people who were big fishes like me who put so much into this, that we are grouping together to take this to court. Andrea, I'm sure your reading all the boards relating to your company, just because you have a P.O. box for a company address, doesnt mean you can hide somewhere out of the states and takeing advantage of this new Pink venture you have going on here. Your in for a serious investigation and we are taking this to court. Already he is the CEO with a criminal history with his last scam he pulled off as many bought into the private schooling that is haunting him and his reputation. This is just his latest, and he is being watched by many shareholders who are stuck with not much left over and wanting answers. But we can all hope for the best right? Nothing too solid as of yet, lots of great PRs, lots of hype from the CEO on the phone, and still is sinking. Bottom line, nothing serious will start happening until something concreet and real starts to happen at the Airport. Words can only do so much. Good Luck to all!!


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Good luck to both of you. I actually went against my better judgement of not putting good money after bad, and bought another 225,000 shares today at .0021 to bring my average down to .006 - Feels soooo much better than .011 - for $472.50

So it's sink or swim. I've just resolved myself that I could lose it all - or could be holding for months and months -

My Ibiz and UVCL - NOTHING is performing well right now. But this is my gambling money and I won't sell for a loss. I respect your decisions to sell. Believe me - I'm not here because I want to be. But my "Escape HAtch" Is now 50% closer than it was last night!

Hope I don't get into more Doggie Do! I must say - Andrea's holdings SURE ARE diversified! LOL - What's next? Pig Farm in China?

Take care,
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quote:
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Good luck to both of you. I actually went against my better judgement of not putting good money after bad, and bought another 225,000 shares today at .0021 to bring my average down to .006 - Feels soooo much better than .011 - for $472.50

So it's sink or swim. I've just resolved myself that I could lose it all - or could be holding for months and months -

My Ibiz and UVCL - NOTHING is performing well right now. But this is my gambling money and I won't sell for a loss. I respect your decisions to sell. Believe me - I'm not here because I want to be. But my "Escape HAtch" Is now 50% closer than it was last night!

Hope I don't get into more Doggie Do! I must say - Andrea's holdings SURE ARE diversified! LOL - What's next? Pig Farm in China?

Take care,
Steve


Bought more myself this morning Love hope it runs.


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Geeeez - we AVERAGE down and the price GOES DOWN More...........

We need a break -and not from McDonalds!


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quote:
Originally posted by Love the Market:
Geeeez - we AVERAGE down and the price GOES DOWN More...........

We need a break -and not from McDonalds!


Yeah I know what you mean, I bought more cdvj and ibzt today both down, used the money from usci that I got out of Thursday.
Oh well they can only go to zero at least I won't owe money ( though with cdvj who knows)lol


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