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Not sure why it's going down. This will be good for the long run, and any new PR would help it go up. Have ti wait till July or August for it to start seeing new highs.
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Sold today with a big loss of $1500.00 U.S. & got into MDDM....This might take a long time (weeks or months) to start recovering...The only thing I can think of that will spark this is a PR with some predictions of numbers......
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Geez... whan I got into this I was hopping for a quick turn around so that I could put some more cash in QBID. What a drag. I totally belive in the long term of WNMI... I think this thing has mad potential. I just didn't mean to have so much cash tied up.
Ah well...
It's gonna be big when this does pop guys! Don't give up.... and don't SELL!
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Patience everyone, stock up while it's low. I think this stock will be a winner in a few months. Thanks for the info Betting Babe, answers to many questions I had.
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I just wanted to post something positive, I don't know how reputable marketpulse.com is but:
Market Pulse Announces its Stock Picks for Thursday, April 29, 2004: XXX, GE, WNMI, ISON
MP has been compensated in free trading shares of common stock, available for public trading as follows: AngloTajik Minerals, Inc. compensation from a third party: six hundred thousand free trading shares of stock in AngloTajik Minerals, Inc., already delivered from a third party. To date, MP has sold one hundred twenty thousand shares of stock in AngloTajik Minerals, Inc. for proceeds totaling forty five thousand three hundred dollars.
They are paid pumpers who use other symbols in the news to try and get more publicity for their pump.
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wnmi will likely rise back to .018-.020 next week, if not higher with a PR. At these levels I'm buying as much as I can while the buyin' is good!
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Back in at .014 also, lot of accummelation going on. MACD looks good also.
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The new Warning website is up, and it is looking fabulous. Rather than spend tons of money on developing their own database system, I see that Warning has partnered with 11x14.com for their portfolio management system. Smart- and saves them a lot of money. It's smart moves like that that will keep their overhead low and makes them a good investment.
I also saw this old PR (they have a PR section on the website now) http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/040325/064924.html for the first time, and realized that Warning is now a photography rep as well as a model rep. That ought to generate another million plus in revenues. Additionally, my opinion is that Warning is positioning themselves to be a full service production company, meaning they will supply the photographer, models, hair, makeup and stylist for a photo shoot. Keeping production all in one place is a huge lure for clients. Photographers repped by the agency are more likely to hire models with the same agency, so I see this agency generating higher revenues than a typical model agency. Further, with the photography department repping talent that is international (the list of photogs in the PR is one of int'l talent), jobs done overseas can be billed through the LA office, which was not a common practice in the past. More $$ for Warning.
Last thing- There's 'word' in the business that Paris is in the midst of negotiating a contract with a huge beauty company, which would contract her to be a spokesperson for their products, not just modeling for them but also doing direct marketing appearances. If it comes through, it would be a very generous contract. I'll keep my ears open- they're talking about a debut in the Fall if negotiations succeed. By the way, before we get too "Paris" centered, I took a look at all the talent showcased on the new Warning Models website (I was granted access.) Other big names they rep are Janine Green (the black girl with the little 'fro in the Loreal ads), Kylie Bax, Malia Jones (pro surfer turned model), and Tatjana Patitz. They also have great men. Atesh does the Armani campaign, James Penfold does Armani cologne, Burberry & DKNY, Frank Arends (this guy even owns/owned his own photo rep agency but is repped by Warning for his modeling career), Kevin Kazakoff (Chanel), Rory Marshall (Lancome)and Werner... the list goes on, but my point is that while these models don't generate PR for the agency, they do generate 5 & 6-figure contracts.
~BB
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When you mentioned a beauty company negotiation with Paris, I couldn't help but think about Clairol and their Herbal Essence line. They just pulled out on contract with Omarosa, so are probably looking for another big name to take her place.
If they use Paris, think they'll drop the "orgasm" routine or capitalize on it? LOL
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Omarosa never had the contract. They did a test on her and that was it. Clairol even issued a statement saying that. Herbal Essence won't be dropping that Yes, Yes angle any time soon. They're still auditioning for it. If you think it's funny to hear the commercial, you should hear the auditions! Girls going in to audition & over and over, yes yes yes (we can hear it form the waiting room)... heah! Because I believe it is very privy info (read: I could get in trouble), I don't want to post the name of the company, but it is accessories in the beauty realm, and it probably isn't a company that you have heard of- yet. They are in every drugstore and beauty supply across the US, getting ready to roll out a major on-air presence such as a QVC/shopTV. Which would be very keeping in the Hilton tradition, as Paris's mom has a jewelry line that is marketed in the same media channel (QVC). ~BB
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When you mentioned a beauty company negotiation with Paris, I couldn't help but think about Clairol and their Herbal Essence line. They just pulled out on contract with Omarosa, so are probably looking for another big name to take her place.
If they use Paris, think they'll drop the "orgasm" routine or capitalize on it? LOL
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Betting Babe! what you're talking about is beyond D&D. Maybe I'm the only one to just now pick up on the fact that you not only have been in this field but more importantly still seem to have connections.
In any event I enjoy your posts much of which has been an education for me!
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Glad to be able to entertain Whiz =) I am in the fashion industry, and still actively work (I model for all the major retailers, dept stores & brands in the US mainly and do tv commercials- smile when you see Sears on your tv!), so I'm a little cautious about what I am divulging and what is still considered "privileged". My friends and I had discussed how well we could do trading stocks in the fashion biz, since we shoot the campaigns at least 6 months before they come out, so we know when new brands are launching and big PR is coming. Not sure how insider that is...so I'm careful. Just think- I knew that Jones NY was acquiring Nine West and coming out with a clothing line, and Easy Spirit was acquired the same way, because I shot the campaign almost a year before it debuted. Had I bought the stock.. So, I hope to contribute to the board as much as possible with the knowledge that I have. And talk up QBID at the same time *wink*
Speaking of which, this BIB Holdings/Sasson relaunch is looking very interesting (BIBO) for when they launch their new campaign in August... Doing my DD and asking around. For what it's all worth. ~BB
quote:Originally posted by whizknock: Betting Babe! what you're talking about is beyond D&D. Maybe I'm the only one to just now pick up on the fact that you not only have been in this field but more importantly still seem to have connections.
In any event I enjoy your posts much of which has been an education for me!
Much better than entertainment! Even without specifics your messages are very enlightening. & yes we can both talk about QBID now & then. I'm in the hopes that Warning has that kind of potential. If they put out a line of clothing that would appeal to even a larger targeted consummer sector than QTV.
The only thing I'm 100% sure of is that I have the dicipline to stay with WNMI & accumulate while they become a profitable company.
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this is bigger IMO than QBID although I am a holder of both companies. I believe that monday will be another up day and after that some news and off we go.
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A bit in the paper today about the model agency lawsuit. When this thing hits, the entire model agency business will have to be restructured. The federal suit should go to court this year, and the NY State suit end of 2004/beginning 2005. Agencies will be dropping left and right, and Warning will be cranking away with no legal involvement at all, soaking up all the money.
To restate it: There is a class action lawsuit against every top agency in NYC, so many agencies are moving their talent to LA offices in preparations for bankrupcy filings in NY. Elite has already filed for bankrupcy and put their agency up for sale. IMG, the richest of all agencies, settled (but that's federal only).
Today's news: May 1, 2004 -- JOHN Casablancas is leading the fight to save the modeling industry from a class-action suit. While IMG caved and settled, agreeing to pay up to $11 million to models who claim they lost money because of collusion between agencies, Casablancas vows to fight to the end. His lawyer, Ray Dowd, told PAGE SIX: "The models have to show they were damaged, but the models made more under John Casablancas than ever before. He invented the supermodel." The entire case, brought by David Boies - the lawyer who unsuccessfully represented Al Gore in his Florida ballot battle four years ago - hinges on a state law which says employment agencies may only charge a 10 percent commission. Dowd asserts the Consumer Affairs Department ruled in the '70s that model agencies are exempt. "Model agencies were ruled to be managers," he says. "They don't just find employment, they also find housing, buy plane tickets, fix boyfriend problems . . . It's a totally frivolous case." Casablancas, who is married to a Brazilian and also spends parts of the year in Europe, lives in Florida, and "has specifically instructed me not to raise any jurisdictional issues or make any attempt to avoid jurisdiction," Dowd said.
I read your last post about all the talant moving to LA. I know that's where Warning is based but how does that help the old line agencies who are caught up in the suit? Do you think it's possible some of those models will jump ship & join us?
More & more I'm thinking this investment will be better than I previously thought!
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It would provide a solution for NY agencies to get around their bankrupcy filings, processing all payments through LA. The talent wouldn't change, just the billing, but the process in general makes LA a more mainstream market than it has traditionally been in the past. Clients tend to look for models in NY first, unless they are based n the west coast. Just another shift in the industry that I think Warning has a jump on.
Interesting also- at the White House Correspondence Dinner last night a couple of Bush's appointees to his administration were questioning me about the lawsuit. Turns out the feds are taking this far more seriously than I was aware of, so as the ball rolls it could grow bigger.
To reinterate- Warning is one of the few top level agencies that will NOT in any way be involved with the lawsuit. Another plus for our investment. ~BB
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I read your last post about all the talant moving to LA. I know that's where Warning is based but how does that help the old line agencies who are caught up in the suit? Do you think it's possible some of those models will jump ship & join us?
More & more I'm thinking this investment will be better than I previously thought!
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Good! When I first found the Warning post I felt that many people jumped on it because of Paris' PR. I hope that my input helps everyone realize that there is more to the modeling industry than a flash in the pan penny profit (as nice as that can be) and that, without knowing it, they really have made a wise investment for the future at a bargain price. Of course, strictly my opinion. ~BB Posts: 2651 | Registered: Apr 2004
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That would be me! Purely by accident falling into what appears to a sweet investment. But honestly speaking the noise about Paris was what first got my attention however I did not put money on it until I did enough research to find out they had a business plan & that they were more than a flash in the pan.
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Does anyone know the average price that shares are for modeling agencies? Or where Warning can be in a year or after that? Any response to this thanks.
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Also I would like to thank Bet Babe for her knowledge in this indusrty. I heard about Paris first, but didn't buy any shares at that time. After reading more and talking to people I then bought some shares. Thanks to the people on here for their help, and especially Bet Babe.
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