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Might not know what im even talking about jenna. just trying to take it all in and draw some conclusions from the info on the previous page. all i can say is if these 50M share or so disappear into thin are and the make there way to the hedge fund some how allowing this to all go away i may save up enough to by into one. it would really prove why they all make money.
Has anyone heard of a major hedge fund horror story since LTCM in conn. They hedged wrong and almost collapsed our nations economy. Got into dept 3trillion from origenal investments of only 300M or one billion if my memory serves me. the public television show Nova did a story on it. took this countries then largest banks in 1999 to bail them out and they were quietly shut down. I new about it cause they were out of Greenwich CT. I remember hearing about a few more small hedge fund going bad after and then nothing except rich getting richer and making money hand over fist using them. now i finally think I know why.
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Today, 04:03 PM Originally Posted by CaliRaven on HSM
If this is indeed the real Lee Webb (I will assume so, since I can't for the life of me imagine why anyone would want to pose as such a parasite), then you know full well that this stock was victimized by NSS. Your efforts specifically were subsidized by at least one hedge fund management team (managers of a $50,000,000.00 fund out of Dallas). While many on this board might be blissly ignorant of much of the truth, I for one will not stand by and let a commercial leech like yourself create further chaos and doubt with your specious logic and nihilistic values. After sitting through a lunch with the management team of this hedge fund, I must say that my eyes were opened and suspicions confirmed. The extent to which this happens is staggering. Not a well organized conspiracy, but a well executed, yet chaotic tactic with most effective results. You and a few others like you were named as being part of the "arsenal" and while it wasn't disclosed as to how much you actually profited from this market shell game, I am sure it was substantial. So cut the BS and stop acting as if NSS doesn't exist. It does, you know it and you make a very nice living from it.
And for further clarification.........the hedge fund managers in question had a few things to say about RPH and MA. I came away with the following. Bear in mind that while I might agree with part or all of it, it is the summarized statements of others, not necessarily my own opinion or position.
RPH while guilty of many instances of "foot in mouth" and not knowing when to remain quiet, was notactively seeking to perpetrate fraud on anyone. However, his lack of people and managment skills had doomed this merger to failure. This was the primary attraction to this deal for the hedge funds. MA seems to have been more suspect in this than RPH. MA's intention was to convert his shares to cash any way possible and was never a true long (As is now being confirmed by the filings). This in combination with the toxic financing made CSHD a prime target for the hedge funds. They also confirmed the practice of NSS and that CSHD was certainly exploited in such a manner. Additionally, Lee Webb and a few others were mentioned as being indirectly compensated for participating in a ping pong game of bash, then pump and ultimately dump for the specific purpose of manipulating this stock.
Again.....I post this as a summation of what one group of hedge fund manager's related to me in a lunch meeting back in December of 2006.
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quote:Originally posted by thecon00: Just making sure im keeping up. .
So MA’s attempt to funnel shares to AJW is the endgame for the NSSing Hedge fund to cover. Am I correct wally? Thereby leaving the hedge funds books relatively clean and killing our hope for a recovery. . . except
THE WAY I SEE IT THIS MAY BE THE BEST NEWS WE HAVE HAD IN A LONG TIME.
1) it confirms that there are still plenty of shares to be covered as many have suspected if RPH analysis from way back was even remotely close to correct which was pointed at Ameritrade and others. Also possible exposure of the hedge fund/ broker link we know must exist at some level for the NSS to even be possible 2) if any of these filings are accepted by the SEC at this point, court case or otherwise, it is clear evidence for our congressmen that they are seriously in bed w, the hedge funds and probably have been for years
3) How could mike be such a moron and try to complete the transfer of shares back, indirectly or otherwise for the hedge fund(s) to cover at this point (unless he believes SEC will still do nothing about it!!!!)
4) Imo – finding out the trail of where the shares go now if that is even possible will prove everything, those shares still aren’t covered and is the RPH side, or any decent management can right the ship in court, and get us trading again, SHORT squeeze, again we have major value here. I really felt like this is RPH only play or value to this co. from the beginning and that he never expected there to be a need to draw on any of the bonds due to the fact that co. shares could be sold to fund the co. thus the similar situation we were in to an IPO.
5) PS- sorry about my rambling/thinking out loud here
I'm not sure but if I were to speculate, it is possible that the shares were funneled through Oasis, a NONPROFIT, to the Hedge funds. Or maybe even a couple other steps were used prior to the hedge fund getting them. One thing does appear to be obvious, Mike getting rid of those shares seems to be an effort to distance himself from CSHD or a desperate attempt to shield his involvement. This is just speculation since we can't find the trail. It's odd though that whoever recieved the shares didn't file since they would have more than a 10% stake in CSHD.
GLTA Wally
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Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 269 Quote: Originally Posted by leedsatlanta Are you related to MA?
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If you are, did Mike donate the majority of his shares to Ecowood?
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Well, you are close in some areas. I did teach at Baylor at one time, but No, I am not related to MA. Dr. J __________________ "He reveals the deep and secret things; He knows what is in the darkness, and the light dwells with Him! Daniel 2:22
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Some very interesting stuff today... listening to SPR this evening to see if Rufus shows after all this junk.
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Heh Simon is gettin a kick out of poking fun at Arlitt and the rest of "us". Cant blame the guy Posts: 2308 | From: Michigan | Registered: Jun 2006
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: No it was. When triggered it meant that the total amount was due in full with interest. You have to go back to either an earlier 10K or maybe even an SB2/4 that had the agreement in it.
do you know if it stopped the purchase of more shares ? thereby stopping the progress of the"toxic financing"?
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Heh Simon is gettin a kick out of poking fun at Arlitt and the rest of "us". Cant blame the guy
Well it was pretty sad when James Gee stated that Tut's, Oh I mean Arlitt's Cell Phone doesn't work in Germany and that Sat Phones were to expensive.
My cousin is a Cell Phone refurbisher and distributor. He travels to the far east quite often. While it is true the pnoe doesn't work if set for the US standards, all it takes is a sim card change and an interenational phone card to have cell phone service. I have no problem talking to my cousin whether he's in Hong Kong, Tiawan, singapore, Thailand or Vietnam.
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Today, 10:59 AM #1919 dogman HSM Regular
Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 253 Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainSolo I bet ya $20 This ends up RPH's baby again! If you win I'll paypal it!
I will bet you 1000 that Rufus ends up in jail, John brings this company back and we trade higher than we have every traded. 20 shows your conviction
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Jenna I bet a 1000 that dogman sees jail time for distributing that doc today. Someone in my office mentioned 5 years is a general punishment for distributing Federal court documents without permission. Of course this is JMHO.
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Today, 10:59 AM #1919 dogman HSM Regular
Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 253 Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainSolo I bet ya $20 This ends up RPH's baby again! If you win I'll paypal it!
I will bet you 1000 that Rufus ends up in jail, John brings this company back and we trade higher than we have every traded. 20 shows your conviction
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Jenna I bet a 1000 that dogman sees jail time for distributing that doc today. Someone in my office mentioned 5 years is a general punishment for distributing Federal court documents without permission. Of course this is JMHO.
The biggest question I have about that is WHY. Why would he do it. It really is misleading in nature especailly in the way he did it. Claiming that it was proof that Rufus is guilty and going to jail.
Unless I am completely off base, a Grand Jury is mostly a fact finding mission to see if there is enough evidence to go forward with a prosecution. If they had the goods on Rufus they would not have to convene a Grand Jury. They would simple arrest, charge and prosecute him.
"What does a grand jury do? Bringing charges Investigating
Historically, the grand jury--which was known as "the voice of the community" or "the people's panel"--was a way of injecting the common sense of the individuals who make up the community into government affairs. Specifically, grand juries were used to bring the everyday person's perspective into two aspects of government: investigating crime and/or community conditions and bringing charges against people who may have committed crimes. They still do both these things.
Bringing charges
In the federal system and in all but two of the states, grand juries are used to bring charges against persons who are believed to have committed crimes. In the federal system and in some states, they HAVE to be used to bring charges for felonies, which are the more serious crimes that normally carry a prison term for those who are convicted. In other states, they CAN be used to bring charges for felonies (or for other crimes), but don't have to be used. If a prosecutor doesn't HAVE to use a grand jury and doesn't WANT to, he or she can bring charges on their own, using what is called an "information" as the charging document. When a grand jury brings criminal charges, the charges are contained in a charging document that is called an "indictment."
If a prosecutor wants a grand jury to charge someone, the prosecutor reserves time with the grand jury and then presents evidence to them. In presenting the evidence, the prosecutor is trying to persuade the grand jurors that the people he or she wants to charge have committed certain crimes. The evidence can be almost anything--testimony from witnesses (including police officers or federal agents), documents, video recordings, tape recordings, the results of scientific tests (like DNA tests), photographs, etc. Here, you see a prosecutor presenting evidence to a grand jury (the gentleman is the prosecutor; the lady is the court reporter):
The grand jurors listen to the evidence and decides if it establishes probable cause to believe the person the prosecutor wants to charge has committed the crime(s) the prosecutor claims. Here, you seen grand jurors discussing evidence that has been presented to them:
After they hear all the prosecutor's evidence, the jurors vote on a set of proposed charges--known as an "indictment"--which the prosecutor has drafted and gives to the grand jurors. If the grand jurors decide the evidence creates probable cause to believe the persons named in an indictment committed the crimes it charges them with, they vote to "return" the indictment, i.e., to charge the person with those crimes. Voting to return charges is usually known as "returning a true bill." If a grand jury votes to return a true bill, the indictment is valid and it initiates a criminal case against the people named as defendants in the indictment. A majority of the grand jurors must vote for an indictment in order to return a true bill.
If a majority of the grand jurors don't think the prosecutor's evidence creates probable cause, they will vote not to return the indictment. When a majority of grand jurors vote not to return an indictment, this is known alternatively as "returning a bill of ignoramus" or "returning a no bill." If the grand jurors vote not to return an indictment, the indictment is not valid and no criminal case results.
But even if a grand jury votes not to indict, that isn't the end of things. A grand jury's vote not to return an indictment is not a final judgment that triggers the constitutional protection against "double jeopardy." To be protected against double jeopardy, a person has to have been "put into jeopardy" and then the proceeding in which "jeopardy attached" had to end without that person's being convicted. The basic rule of thumb is that "jeopardy attaches" when the first witness is sworn in a bench trial (that is, a trial to the court, where there is no jury) or when the jury is sworn in if the case is to be tried by a jury. This means, for example, that if a jury has been sworn in and heard the evidence in a criminal case and they vote to acquit the defendant, he or she cannot be re-tried on those charges. That is precisely what happened to O.J. Simpson: Because the jury in the criminal case acquitted him, he cannot be re-tried on any charges arising out of the death's of Nicole Brown Simpson or Ronald Goldman. (The civil trial was not barred by double jeopardy because the double jeopardy provision only protects you from being repeatedly tried on the same CRIMINAL charges.)
Investigating
Grand juries also investigate, either as part of bringing criminal charges or as a purely separate function.
In the federal system, there are two kinds of grand juries: "Regular grand juries" primarily decide whether to bring charges. But a different kind of grand jury--a "special grand jury"--is called into existence to investigate whether organized crime is occurring in the community in which it sits. "Organized crime" is defined very broadly--it is not limited to the "Godfather"-style image of the Magia or La Cosa Nostra. Instead, a special grand jury can investigate, for example, organized drug activity or organized corruption in government. If a special federal grand jury investigates and establishes that organized crime is, or has been, occurring in the area, the grand jury can charge the individuals responsible for the organized crime and/or can issue a report describing what has been going on. If the grand jury issues a report, it has to submit the report to the court that supervises the grand jury; the court then decides whether the report can be made public.
Many states have "regular" (indicting) grand juries. But a number of states also have grand juries that investigate organized crime, especially organized drug crime. And some states let grand juries investigate any kind of crime--organized or otherwise. A few states follow the old, common law practice and let grand juries initiate their own investigations based on what the grand jurors know about what is going on in their community. At common law, grand juries could bring criminal charges in a special document--which was known as a "presentment"--when they acted on their own. If they returned charges brought to them by a prosecutor, those charges were contained in an indictment. If the grand jury acted without the prosecutor, they brought charges in a presentment. Some states still let grand juries do this. Both the presentment and the indictment have the same legal effect--both initiate a criminal case.
Since no law forbids their investigating on their own, federal grand juries could also do this, although they can't bring charges in a presentment. In the 1970's, a federal court of appeals (the court just below the Supreme Court) held that charges cannot be brought except in an indictment signed by a prosecutor. According to this court, if the prosecutor won't sign the charging document (which has to be an indictment), no case results. That decision effectively stymies federal grand juries from bringing charges on their own.
Even though they may (after all, it was only a court of appeals decision) not be able to bring charges on their own, federal grand juries can still investigate; there is no statute or decision that says they can't. In practice, though, federal grand juries don't initiate they own investigations --they depend on prosecutors who decide what they will investigate. Part of the reason why federal grand juries don't bring their own investigations may be the complexity of many federal crimes. Tax fraud and racketeering offenses, for example, can be very legally and factually complex, so it may not be possible for lay jurors to initiate these.
A number of states follow common law practice and use grand juries to investigate things other than crime, such as conditions in the community. At common law, grand juries administered county government, dealing with roads, bridges, and other community affairs. With the rise of administrative agencies, this aspect of their responsibilities has fallen away for the most part. (In California, however, grand juries continue to oversee the operation of county government; these "civil grand juries" investigate all aspects of county government, and often issue reports.)
States do still use grand juries for some civil investigations. Many states, for example, use grand juries to inspect local jails, to ensure they're being maintained properly. And some states use grand juries to monitor the conduct of various public affairs and the operation of various public agencies."
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Today, 10:59 AM #1919 dogman HSM Regular
Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 253 Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainSolo I bet ya $20 This ends up RPH's baby again! If you win I'll paypal it!
I will bet you 1000 that Rufus ends up in jail, John brings this company back and we trade higher than we have every traded. 20 shows your conviction
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Jenna I bet a 1000 that dogman sees jail time for distributing that doc today. Someone in my office mentioned 5 years is a general punishment for distributing Federal court documents without permission. Of course this is JMHO.
What did the document he post basically say?
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Today, 10:59 AM #1919 dogman HSM Regular
Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 253 Quote: Originally Posted by CaptainSolo I bet ya $20 This ends up RPH's baby again! If you win I'll paypal it!
I will bet you 1000 that Rufus ends up in jail, John brings this company back and we trade higher than we have every traded. 20 shows your conviction
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Jenna I bet a 1000 that dogman sees jail time for distributing that doc today. Someone in my office mentioned 5 years is a general punishment for distributing Federal court documents without permission. Of course this is JMHO.
What did the document he post basically say?
9 pages requesting any and all information regarding CSHD faxed to him by the FBI itself.
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Brazilianrosewood from HSM is stepping up to the plate......
copied from HSM
Anyone wanting to help BRW get the court of Deleware to name the real CEO of CSHD should contact BRW at thetruebrazillionrosewood*yahoo.com
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Hey Mr. C...nice work on here the last few days...all of you...nice work. I think we are getting very close to figuring out what "The Plan" has been all along...and what bumps in the road we have encountered since the plans inception...and where we will go from here...good or bad. We are close...very close.
Matthew
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Cat? You have been in this because of FHAL and the log deals...now isn't this James Gee one of Mikes loyal guys? and is it possible that MA has James falling for Rufus being the con? ..Maybe MA is playing him? And James has been suckered as well... hell we have all been suckered..LOL I would just like to know who the heck the biggest sucker maker is!
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