quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: TexasMoney, LOL at "man love it out"
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!
this is how doniboy gets his respect by kissing arz... this isnt the first post i've read from him quoting someone and saying something like " huh yuck good one chuck! " lmao...
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Sorry guys, but how can one read the postings of Morty and not have that sick feeling in your gut. Those are actual stories from Rufus's past. St. Matt felt very confident yesterday after he came back from the dinner and saw Rufus face to face and listened to what he had to say. But aren't con men supposed to be convincing? This all just really smells. What a lucky guy I am! I saw this stock breaking 52w high's a couple of weeks ago and played the momentum. I guess I get what I deserve for not researching this company. If I had seen those acticles about his past, I would have never bought.
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did you know that this stock rose from .10 cents? to 4 bucks? Well you shouldve if you didn't (charts, duh)dont blame your bad timing for stocks on the company... why would you buy a stock at 52 week highs when you know buyers under 2 dollars already have 100% or more in gains..
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Oh Trade04 if only I had your spare time, I might be able to hold a grudge this long.
I get the point that you two don't get along. Doesn't mean I am going to dislike either of you. Honestly, though what is the benefit of prevoking additional fighting in front of all of us.
You waiting for someone to declare a winner? Because it isn't happening, and as far as losers go... well I guess I am. Because I will never get the valuable time back that I spent listening to you guys take jabs at each other. not to mention writing this post.
I am taking my ball and I am going home.
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I bought two weeks ago at 1.50. If it hadn't been halted, it would have been a good trade.
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Well I was going home till I saw Mariner's whine.
Would you like cheese with that?
For the record no I do not get a sick feeling when I look at Morty's posts. I know what I own and I like many others are at the mercy of the SEC at the moment. But if we were trading tomorrow I still would not sell because I have answered my questions, and I know what it is that I own.
-------------------- Una Mas! Posts: 2717 | From: Eville,IN,USA | Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:Originally posted by Mariner: I bought two weeks ago at 1.50. If it hadn't been halted, it would have been a good trade.
It is still a "good trade", just think of the halt as some free time to do some investigating on your own. Might I suggest "The Darkside of the Looking glass" presentation, and the GA Courts website as good places to start.
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Mariner, maybe you should go back over some of the old threads and find where we've been over these topics in the past. Maybe you can find some DD that will help you with these issues.
Most of these topics are quite old and we've all excepted them for what they are. Nothing is 100%, but Rufus has been pretty spot on with CSHD so far. All we can do is wait and see what happens.
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quote:Originally posted by Mariner: Sorry guys, but how can one read the postings of Morty and not have that sick feeling in your gut. Those are actual stories from Rufus's past. St. Matt felt very confident yesterday after he came back from the dinner and saw Rufus face to face and listened to what he had to say. But aren't con men supposed to be convincing? This all just really smells. What a lucky guy I am! I saw this stock breaking 52w high's a couple of weeks ago and played the momentum. I guess I get what I deserve for not researching this company. If I had seen those acticles about his past, I would have never bought.
There is ZERO context to his quotes and statements. I glossed over it this afternoon, and just read it in greater detail because you referenced it. Honestly, you can take nearly any fact and spin it into fiction. But, put to get the truth you must put the fact into context, which doesn't do even once.
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quote:Originally posted by trade04: aww come on tax, you know its mostly entertainment...
in donis words "you are free to leave"
And Tax, no1's making you read our posts...you're reading them cuz you want to. 8-)
You got me... I "wanted" to read them. HA! But I am still out my time, and I am no better off than when I started so I am whining now too. HA HA!! Oh Behave!
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Someone had asked if other stocks ever came off of suspension...
quote:Originally posted by madmoney: CESV just got off suspension http://www.sec.gov/litigation/suspensions/2006/34-54503a-o.pdf lost only a little, still in play --------- came off suspension on the 9th, it is now the 24th my L2 screen shows no MM`s issuing quotes on it! how is it still in play?
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You guys and gals make it tough for a newie. My first penny stock, and all this commotion. Are they all like this? I don't think I have the stomach for the roller coaster ride, and all the nasty bashing of the stock and each other. Or maybe this is just the price of admission?
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OK now I mean it I am going home. Listening to SPR tonight. Pretty sure Rufus won't be on. Doubt he will go on there again with out putting a PR out first. Sounds like it was one of the rules he didn't quite understand and was breaking.
Anyway later... let's hope for some more news.
-------------------- Una Mas! Posts: 2717 | From: Eville,IN,USA | Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:Originally posted by Mariner: Sorry guys, but how can one read the postings of Morty and not have that sick feeling in your gut. Those are actual stories from Rufus's past. St. Matt felt very confident yesterday after he came back from the dinner and saw Rufus face to face and listened to what he had to say. But aren't con men supposed to be convincing? This all just really smells. What a lucky guy I am! I saw this stock breaking 52w high's a couple of weeks ago and played the momentum. I guess I get what I deserve for not researching this company. If I had seen those acticles about his past, I would have never bought.
I think alot of this was covered when this was still trading under FHAL. You might have to go waaaayyyy back and study up some. It might make you feel better because after all that being said, the stock kept going!glty
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quote:Originally posted by trade04: aww come on tax, you know its mostly entertainment...
in donis words "you are free to leave"
And Tax, no1's making you read our posts...you're reading them cuz you want to. 8-)
You got me... I "wanted" to read them. HA! But I am still out my time, and I am no better off than when I started so I am whining now too. HA HA!! Oh Behave!
Reading Trade04 is like having a festering hemorrhoid on your ass that you just must take a look at. You know its there, its probably ugly, but you just can’t help but the grab the mirror, bend over, and take a good long look. After that, it’s all good! You know the truth now, it really is a festering hemorrhoid, hanging off your ass – just like Trade04
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What I dont understand is why everyone is doing all this backslapping and congragulating Rufus. True, I do believe that there are bigger entities (shorters/MMs)that want to see this company disapear and thats why the SEC has went as far as they did, but Rufus doesnt help the situation by call them idiots and not wanting to cooperate. Name calling and criticism is not going to make this process any faster.
Another thing that is really frustrating is all these subpennyradio/HSM posts from him because it only gives the Bashers more things to attack him on. Its great to rally the shareholders but I dont think it expedites the court filing process.
I just really hope this doesnt turn into another situation like the "E" that were being assured that everything is being taken care of, all is well and then all of a sudden something drastic happens (delisting). Which ever way this goes I just hope he makes it official on the 7th and doesnt drag this along with false promises or some lame Tut posts telling us to be patient or pointing the finger at the SEC and saying he was set up. Alot of people have put faith in him and some (myself included) have problably put more money into this than we should have, given the current situation so I think he owes it to us to atleast be honest about where we stand after the court date is over.
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quote:Originally posted by Morty: Another failed venture blaming someone else. But he is successful????????????? He's the magic man???? I know, so what the man is a saint. KMA!!
Questions mount on proposed Grenelefe buyer
HAINES CITY -- The saga over the liquidation of the 1,000-acre Grenelefe Golf & Tennis Resort is taking an unusual turn.
The attorney representing the site's federal trustee is now looking into the activity of a one-time leading candidate to acquire the property.
Tampa attorney Roberta Colton, representing Federal Trustee Traci Strickland of St. Petersburg, said the pair are examining more closely the activities of Paul Harris, an Atlanta man who claimed to represent developers interested in converting the site into an exclusive walled golf community.
Harris proposed a wildly generous $18 million for the bankrupt 750-room resort and vacation condominium site, but couldn't come up with a $1 million deposit in nearly a week. The site seems destined for the auction block. Harris' offer would have virtually ensured the resort's 350 former employees received their last paychecks.
Colton Friday said no action has occurred regarding the complex and Strickland has dismissed Harris' offer and moved on. Harris reportedly says he's not done with the complex and plans to bring his offer directly to the court.
Business officials and business media in Atlanta earlier this month said they had never heard of Harris. A spokeswoman for South Carolina's secretary of state confirmed a corporation was formed late last month under the name Enhancement Holdings Inc., but added Harris was not listed as the agent. Pravin Patel, a well-known Carolina hotelier who is listed, Friday told the News Chief he'd never heard of either Enhancement Holdings or Harris.
The secretary of state's office has declined to release a copy of the incorporation papers. Harris, during his stay, had talked about razing the existing condominiums despite a state law that would appear to block that action. Charles Weinkauf, Grenelefe Condominium Association president, earlier this week thought it odd an experienced developer was unfamiliar with the state's condominium law.
News reports say Harris was wined and dined while at the defunct resort purportedly scoping out the property. Groundskeepers opened a closed Grenelefe golf course specifically to permit Harris and nearly two dozen others to play through. Colton said she and Strickland were unaware of the special treatment and were investigating the report
Web posted Wednesday, May 1, 2002
Grenelefe liquidation enters third month; offer sought
By STEVEN N. LEVINE News Chief
HAINES CITY -- The liquidation of Grenelefe Golf & Tennis Resort drags into its third month with a federal referee still trying to nail down a legitimate offer for the 1,000-acre property.
Traci Strickland said Monday that she had no new contracts and no time schedule for liquidating the bankrupt 750-room hotel, condominium and golf complex. There was no action on the complex over the weekend despite threats of legal action to protect an $18 million offer made last month.
Strickland said principals for Enhancement Holdings LLC have "fallen off the face of the earth" since the South Carolina firm's required $1 million binder failed to materialize after 48 hours. Paul R. Harris of Adairsville, Ga., last week blamed Strickland for the company's inability to meet two deadlines for the deposit.
Strickland said Monday that she was unaware she had any role in the deal's downfall beyond requiring the standard deposit using standard procedures. Strickland originally selected Enhancement Holdings because the partnership wanted fast action and offered nearly $5 million more than the $13.16 million owed secured creditors. Total liabilities against the complex are listed as $53.067 million by the bankruptcy court.
Previously unnoticed irregularities with the holding company have surfaced in the wake of the partnership's failure. The South Carolina Secretary of State's office began its investigation Monday, spokeswoman Kay Maxwell said.
Among the issues on South Carolina's agenda are:
Problems identifying the corporation's agent. Harris said last week that the Pravin Patel listed on the company's incorporation certificate is not the hotel magnate state officials believe he is. In fact, Patel is actually "Paul Patel" and the phone number listed for him on the papers is out of order.
Harris refused this month to release a working contact number for Patel, a requirement under that state's Freedom of Information Law, Maxwell said.
A onetime partner in the holding company, Charles R. Metcalf of Palacios, Texas, claimed he resigned his directorship April 1, weeks before the offer was made. Metcalf is listed as a director on a copy of the incorporation certificate provided by South Carolina officials.
Metcalf says his certificate signature dated Feb. 7 is a forgery. Metcalf said last week that he didn't formally join the partnership until late March and resigned a week later because other directors did too much traveling and refused to provide him with the corporation's bylaws.
At a minimum, the corporation can lose its incorporation certificate if any allegation is confirmed, Maxwell said. The Secretary of State's Office can also ask the state attorney general to consider an administrative or criminal investigation, she said.
Web posted Tuesday, June 18, 2002
Let me question your integrity for a second. What is your interest? Why do you care for more than a second about a stock you don't own? Your motivations come into question.
Go away. If your not being paid by someone else, get a life and mind your own.
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I couldn't agree more etouqe123. Let me know where I stand. Apparently he said he has been contacted about doing a movie about all of this??? Huh? For those of you who are eternal optimists out there, thanks for the words of encouragement. I know I have missed a lot with FHAL and the beginning of all of this, but the gut is in check and needs some bizmol.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: Yeah, except I'm not a professional anymore (not a broker, not licensed, not an analyst). Therefore, if I say I recommend stock ABC because of PUBLIC fundamental or technical reasons, and I also say, I am long 50K shares, there is nothing wrong with that. It is recommending stocks that you have bought based on inside info. that is wrong.
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"inside info" has nothing to do with it...
re-read...
you still "feel the need" to make troubel tho?
anybody can file a complaint anytime.. why don't you just stop being so rude to people?
the only time i ever see you posting is when you are rude..
i don't care about your picks so i don't read them..
you aren't as "hot" as you claim: it's that simple.. you don't even know what front-running really means.. and that was my point...
and? i don't think it matters if you are pro-anything..what matters is how much $$ you are moving...
so? consider all of my warnings to you a favor..
i'm just trying to educate you...
i would do them privately? but you don't have PM...
Perhaps we are arguing "illegal" vs. "immoral" and complaints against Allstocks vs. an individual...
PM on (don't know why it keeps getting turned off).
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quote:Originally posted by etouqe123: What I dont understand is why everyone is doing all this backslapping and congragulating Rufus. True, I do believe that there are bigger entities (shorters/MMs)that want to see this company disapear and thats why the SEC has went as far as they did, but Rufus doesnt help the situation by call them idiots and not wanting to cooperate. Name calling and criticism is not going to make this process any faster.
I can see your point, BUT....most of us here are on Rufus's side because he is standing up against an evil that has cost us all money in the past. I agree that it might go easier if he didn't call people idiots and such, but I'm no where near PC and I appreciate the man for telling it how it is. Some people are idiots...should we kiss their backsides because they are in power? I know this is how its done most of the time, but I don't like it that way.
As repo would say...I've drank the koolaid. Could this all be a scam? Sure, and I've swallowed the hook, line, and sinker. I haven't invested more than I can afford to lose and I've done enough research that I feel very comfortable with all of this.
Good luck to us all.
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Remember, Morty broke Godwin's Law earlier, so we are SUPPOSED to ignore everything that he says, because he will be wrong from that point onward. So please do that, and ignore anything that anyone brings up that is old DD that we have already disproven, or refuted. The whole point of this old info is to sway anyone who is new to the stock, and hopefully cause those hands to drop as soon as possible. Because those people will probably not want to pore over 1000 plus pages for our comments, some good DD, some useless babble to pass the time. But the point is to make anyone who is not confident to give their shares up for the shorts to cover. Just hold on, and make your decision after doing a lot of research, and not your emotions. This halting of trading allows everyone, MOMO, daytraders, longs, and even shorts to research and learn as much as possible to make the best decision for everyone's personal situation.
Please let knowledge and fact rule the day, and try to ignore any manipulation, either good or bad. All it comes down to is that it is your own money invested, and you should NEVER trade on emotions. Emotions are for loved ones, and have NO place in trading.
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It's called a joke Trade. Look it up. Learn it. Maybe you'll quit your *****ing.
Odd that you were the only one to complain. At least there are bashers here now, maybe you can take your hissy fit out on them now.
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quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: Jenna, I think that things are really heated so we need a group grope...
so tasteful...class act i tell yah!
anyway .........THE END
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Morty who rattled your cage? I understand that you hate the stock but why are you insulting everyone. Are you one of reverend Tim's flock?
-------------------- "I will smack you in the mouth, I'm Neil Diamond"- Will Ferrell Posts: 4190 | From: Rhode Island | Registered: Mar 2006
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Dollar, just a link from OTCBB saying we were delisted and an article from the NY Post saying that we are a scam. Nothing important....
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