quote:Originally posted by Neptunetrader94: So...there is no incentive for anyone to buy now...after the 16th. Unless you believe that the price will go even higher after those who held get their shares (not very very likely). So...this thing should tumble at least until the 30th, if not after because anyone buying after the 16th won't get squat....ohhh I see. Get ready for a major drop if what this HSM poster said was true.
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BB, this is exactly what Rufus called it last night:
A share issuance due to a reorganization through a merger. These are not dividend shares or forward splits. It's been filed since the original 8K merger agreement.
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quote:Originally posted by Neptunetrader94: So...there is no incentive for anyone to buy now...after the 16th. Unless you believe that the price will go even higher after those who held get their shares (not very very likely). So...this thing should tumble at least until the 30th, if not after because anyone buying after the 16th won't get squat....ohhh I see. Get ready for a major drop if what this HSM poster said was true.
That just gives me more reason to hold. If there is a snafu and NASD makes them change the dates, I sure don't want to be chasing because I sold. Food for thought. I completely understand where you are comming from but also remember some Reverse Splits that happened without 10 days warning, so it's now in the hands of TPTB.
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I still say if you jumped out when only skimming its not their problem thats just a hype cause if you were truly long you wouldnt have gotten scared and would have known what you had and would still have your shares... He told us everything but no one believed him? So skimming and saying you wanted to take time doesnt place blame on the issurer of the 10k or the amendment when you were forwarned he said long i believe a lot flipped and are using this as an excuse sorry mo. if you knew what you had and did dd u wouldnt have sold! I do feel bad but you jumped before understanding it and the market isnt made to wait for anyone ...especially pennies!
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Just one thing I don't understand. He refers to the list on the website but the date on the website is Oct. 3rd. I am on the list but on the 16th I owned over 10,000 shares but as of Oct. 3rd I owned 3,000 shares.
Why aren't they changing to list on the website to the date of the 16th instead of the 3rd.
I know some people who bought in after the 3rd but before the 16th, and they are not on the list.
So what is the signifigance of the date of Oct. 3rd?
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quote:Originally posted by Neptunetrader94: So...there is no incentive for anyone to buy now...after the 16th. Unless you believe that the price will go even higher after those who held get their shares (not very very likely). So...this thing should tumble at least until the 30th, if not after because anyone buying after the 16th won't get squat....ohhh I see. Get ready for a major drop if what this HSM poster said was true.
How do you know for a fact it is him?
The incentive to buy now isn't anything to do with the reset or additional shares - that is over and done with....the incentive to buy is that it is still undervalued considering the assets and imminent move to the bigger board, but of course that is left for you to consider in your own DD and gut feelings.
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Just one thing I don't understand. He refers to the list on the website but the date on the website is Oct. 3rd. I am on the list but on the 16th I owned over 10,000 shares but as of Oct. 3rd I owned 3,000 shares.
Why aren't they changing to list on the website to the date of the 16th instead of the 3rd.
I know some people who bought in after the 3rd but before the 16th, and they are not on the list.
So what is the signifigance of the date of Oct. 3rd?
I don't think that is anything to be concerned about - I don't think they have an updated shareholder list as of the 16th yet - he probably is just referring to the one from the 3rd right now because he is mainly speaking to the "longs"
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I am wondering if the shares will be there on the 30th, or if this is going to be one of those that some brokers are good about, and others are lagging behind the rest....?
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quote:Originally posted by Neptunetrader94: So...there is no incentive for anyone to buy now...after the 16th. Unless you believe that the price will go even higher after those who held get their shares (not very very likely). So...this thing should tumble at least until the 30th, if not after because anyone buying after the 16th won't get squat....ohhh I see. Get ready for a major drop if what this HSM poster said was true.
How do you know for a fact it is him?
-no incentive?!!! holy chit!! ha ha ~~~ What more COULD you ask for!!!
Net Income for the fiscal year ending of June 30, 2006 was $18,530,865. Total Assets for the fiscal year end was $830,009,352. Total Shareholder equity for the fiscal year end was $789,508,292. Total issued Shares as of year end was 62,489,721, given the corporation a calculated book value of $12.63 as of June 30, 2006. With the addition of the Lehman Brothers Holdings PLC Bonds of $450,000,000 Euro ($564,092,494.32 USD as of October 16, 2006 at 7:26 pm), the Republic of Finland Sovereign Bonds of $749,000,000 Euro ($939,000,348.90 USD as of October 16, 2006 at 7:26 pm) and the Contract expansion with the Caracas Group of $5,000,000,000 USD the corporation currently has an asset portfolio of $7,292,601,135.22.
10Q that is coming out Nov 15th will say the company has a asset portfolio of $7,292,601,135.22
GOOGLE is at $420.00 per share!!! PERIOD ENDING 31-Dec-05 31-Dec-04 31-Dec-03 Total Revenue 6,138,560 3,189,223 1,465,934 Cost of Revenue 2,577,088 1,457,653 625,854
Gross Profit 3,561,472 1,731,570 840,080
Total Assets 10,271,813
BOTTOM LINE GOOGLE has 10,271,813 in assets period ending Dec of 05
CSHD is going to report in NOV that it has an asset portfolio of $7,292,601,135.22!!!!!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by Jenna: Surf are you going to be gone during the 30th?
Wife is going to Maine to see family and bringing the baby from the 25th. to the 31st. so I will probably sneak over to Abaco to surf for a couple days.
I will play it by ear.
I am not too worried what happens with CSHD. I have resigned my shares for the long haul.
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That just gives me more reason to hold. If there is a snafu and NASD makes them change the dates, I sure don't want to be chasing because I sold. Food for thought. I completely understand where you are comming from but also remember some Reverse Splits that happened without 10 days warning, so it's now in the hands of TPTB.
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true...NASD might simply have them issue corrected dates. Now, KOGC (KOCG? maybe...) last spring was halted for a few days, with one of those "special notice to members" issued, saying, basically it would resume trading without ex-date, as i recall. Of course, many remember GVRP/MAMG, which was suspended into greyland after a screwed-up divvy play. But then Sandy's deal before it became BKMP got more or less corrected in PRs at the last minute--of course, that was restricted shares. I dunno...basically was responding to Mo this am when this got started. lol, as poor as the reg agencies do their jobs? prolly nuttin at all happens...
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Chart buddy, I respect your zeal, but the reason Google is at an inflated PPS has nothing to do with its assets- although it has tons of them.
This is an oversimplification, but Google is at it's current PPS due to hype and people's perception and anticipation about what Google will become in the marketplace/world in the future. As it stands, it already is a pretty huge force.
I am, for want of a better term, long on CSHD, but it doesn't matter what CSHD has in it's Portfolio. It's all about market perception and demand. PPS is more than about earnings and book value. It has to do with market demand. It's all up to Rufus to create that demand by making deals, and agressively and clearly showcasing the value of CSHD to new investors.
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-no incentive?!!! holy chit!! ha ha ~~~ What more COULD you ask for!!!
Net Income for the fiscal year ending of June 30, 2006 was $18,530,865. Total Assets for the fiscal year end was $830,009,352. Total Shareholder equity for the fiscal year end was $789,508,292. Total issued Shares as of year end was 62,489,721, given the corporation a calculated book value of $12.63 as of June 30, 2006. With the addition of the Lehman Brothers Holdings PLC Bonds of $450,000,000 Euro ($564,092,494.32 USD as of October 16, 2006 at 7:26 pm), the Republic of Finland Sovereign Bonds of $749,000,000 Euro ($939,000,348.90 USD as of October 16, 2006 at 7:26 pm) and the Contract expansion with the Caracas Group of $5,000,000,000 USD the corporation currently has an asset portfolio of $7,292,601,135.22.
10Q that is coming out Nov 15th will say the company has a asset portfolio of $7,292,601,135.22
GOOGLE is at $420.00 per share!!! PERIOD ENDING 31-Dec-05 31-Dec-04 31-Dec-03 Total Revenue 6,138,560 3,189,223 1,465,934 Cost of Revenue 2,577,088 1,457,653 625,854
Gross Profit 3,561,472 1,731,570 840,080
Total Assets 10,271,813
BOTTOM LINE GOOGLE has 10,271,813 in assets period ending Dec of 05
CSHD is going to report in NOV that it has an asset portfolio of $7,292,601,135.22!!!!!!!!!
SEE the big picture people... And SMILE!!!!
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Actually Bilgert, that is JUST MY POINT!...
Read what you just wrote man! I could not have said it better!
"This is an oversimplification, but Google is at it's current PPS due to hype and people's perception and anticipation about what Google will become in the marketplace/world in the future. As it stands, it already is a pretty huge force."
What I was trying to say is that CSHD is well on it's way, even AHEAD in some areas of Google!
-Get what I'm saying?...
Once this goes Mainstream...
BOOYAH!!!!! ha ha ~
-and yes I'm excited, but I think with REALLY good reasons (7 Billion of them!)
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10b-17 Untimely Announcements of Record Dates
It shall constitute a "manipulative or deceptive device or contrivance" as used in Section 10(b) of the Act for any issuer of a class of securities publicly traded by the use of any means or instrumentality of interstate commerce or of the mails or of any facility of any national securities exchange to fail to give notice in accordance with paragraph (b) hereof of the following actions relating to such class of securities:
A dividend or other distribution in cash or in kind, except an ordinary interest payment on a debt security, but including a dividend or distribution of any security of the same or another issuer; A stock split or reverse split; or A rights or other subscription offering.
Notice shall be deemed to have been given in accordance with this section only if:
Given to the National Association of Securities Dealers, Inc., no later than 10 [calendar] days prior to the record date involved or, in case of a rights subscription or other offering if such 10 [calendar] days advance notice is not practical, on or before the record date and in no event later than the effective date of the registration statement to which the offering relates, and such notice includes: Title of the security to which the declaration relates; Date of declaration; Date of record for determining holders entitled to receive the dividend or other distribution or to participate in the stock or reverse split; Date of payment or distribution or, in the case of a stock or reverse split or rights or other subscription offering, the date of delivery; For a dividend or other distribution including a stock or reverse split or rights or other subscription offering: In cash, the amount of cash to be paid or distributed per share, except if exact per share cash distributions cannot be given because of existing conversion rights which may be exercised during the notice period and which may affect the per share cash distribution, then a reasonable approximation of the per share distribution may be provided so long as the actual per share distribution is subsequently provided on the record date, In the same security, the amount of the security outstanding immediately prior to and immediately following the dividend or distribution and the rate of the dividend or distribution, In any other security of the same issuer, the amount to be paid or distributed and the rate of the dividend or distribution, In any security of another issuer, the name of the issuer and title of that security, the amount to be paid or distributed, and the rate of the dividend or distribution and if that security is a right or a warrant, the subscription price, In any other property (including securities not covered under paragraphs (b)(1)(v)(b) through (d) of this section) the identity of the property and its value and basis for assigning that value; Method of settlement of fractional interests;
Details of any condition which must be satisfied or Government approval which must be secured to enable payment of distribution; and in
The case of stock or reverse split in addition to the aforementioned information; The name and address of the transfer or exchange agent; or The Commission, upon written request or upon its own motion, exempts the issuer from compliance with paragraph (b)(1) of this section either unconditionally or on specified terms or conditions, as not constituting a manipulative or deceptive device or contrivance comprehended within the purpose of this section; or
Given in accordance with procedures of the national securities exchange or exchanges upon which a security of such issuer is registered pursuant to Section 12 of the Act which contain requirements substantially comparable to those set forth in paragraph (b)(1) of this section.
The provisions of this rule shall not apply, however, to redeemable securities issued by open-end investment companies and unit investment trusts registered with the Commission under the Investment Company Act of 1940.
Now, the SEC would have to approve the exempt issue of B1, but that is not the case. So, what happend to the 10day rule. If CSHD had been compliant with the 10 day rule, they would have accomplished two things. 1. Sparked interest in buying of CSHD shares for obvious reasons. 2. Given the MM a catalyst to cover.
Thats not happening at the moment. So, when will this be corrected, as rule 10b-17 states that 10 days notice must be given! Anyone care to go do some DD on this and find more answers! I'm beat and have some chart stuff I need to do! __________________
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And there's the rub. Before Google went public it had HUGE buzz. CSHD is a long way from mainstream. Look at Rufus. And while he has bonds, AISS, horses, singers, coffee, blah blah- nothing holds a candle to what Google is- initially an innovator in online search and has gone on to expand into other fields.
Now- I will give you that Rufus, like the founders of Google, is very unconventional and creative. His treatment of shorting has spawned a wave of companies jumping on the NOBO/anti-shorting train. That in and of itself is very impressive.
And yeah he has got those bonds, and while they're assets- they're non liquid assets. He can borrow against them, hedge them etc. He has lots of potential that I think a lot of us can see. But there is a reason this thing is still trading at $2 a share, absent the whole shorting issue, etc. - and it's market demand.
I really hope this exceeds Google, honestly I do, but we are a long way from that. Not weeks, months, years maybe.
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Once this goes Mainstream...
BOOYAH!!!!! ha ha ~
-and yes I'm excited, but I think with REALLY good reasons (7 Billion of them!)
quote:Originally posted by bilgert: And there's the rub. Before Google went public it had HUGE buzz. CSHD is a long way from mainstream. Look at Rufus. And while he has bonds, AISS, horses, singers, coffee, blah blah- nothing holds a candle to what Google is- initially an innovator in online search and has gone on to expand into other fields.
Now- I will give you that Rufus, like the founders of Google, is very unconventional and creative. His treatment of shorting has spawned a wave of companies jumping on the NOBO/anti-shorting train. That in and of itself is very impressive.
And yeah he has got those bonds, and while they're assets- they're non liquid assets. He can borrow against them, hedge them etc. He has lots of potential that I think a lot of us can see. But there is a reason this thing is still trading at $2 a share, absent the whole shorting issue, etc. - and it's market demand.
I really hope this exceeds Google, honestly I do, but we are a long way from that. Not weeks, months, years maybe.
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Once this goes Mainstream...
BOOYAH!!!!! ha ha ~
-and yes I'm excited, but I think with REALLY good reasons (7 Billion of them!)
Peace out!
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Google huh...
Anybody want to buy a bridge?
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quote:Originally posted by bilgert: And there's the rub. Before Google went public it had HUGE buzz. CSHD is a long way from mainstream. Look at Rufus. And while he has bonds, AISS, horses, singers, coffee, blah blah- nothing holds a candle to what Google is- initially an innovator in online search and has gone on to expand into other fields.
Now- I will give you that Rufus, like the founders of Google, is very unconventional and creative. His treatment of shorting has spawned a wave of companies jumping on the NOBO/anti-shorting train. That in and of itself is very impressive.
And yeah he has got those bonds, and while they're assets- they're non liquid assets. He can borrow against them, hedge them etc. He has lots of potential that I think a lot of us can see. But there is a reason this thing is still trading at $2 a share, absent the whole shorting issue, etc. - and it's market demand.
I really hope this exceeds Google, honestly I do, but we are a long way from that. Not weeks, months, years maybe.
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Once this goes Mainstream...
BOOYAH!!!!! ha ha ~
-and yes I'm excited, but I think with REALLY good reasons (7 Billion of them!)
Peace out!
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Point being Bilgert that we have to start somewhere just like Google.
The only difference is I didn't have shares of Google in its infancy.
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quote:Originally posted by bilgert: And there's the rub. Before Google went public it had HUGE buzz. CSHD is a long way from mainstream. Look at Rufus. And while he has bonds, AISS, horses, singers, coffee, blah blah- nothing holds a candle to what Google is- initially an innovator in online search and has gone on to expand into other fields.
Now- I will give you that Rufus, like the founders of Google, is very unconventional and creative. His treatment of shorting has spawned a wave of companies jumping on the NOBO/anti-shorting train. That in and of itself is very impressive.
And yeah he has got those bonds, and while they're assets- they're non liquid assets. He can borrow against them, hedge them etc. He has lots of potential that I think a lot of us can see. But there is a reason this thing is still trading at $2 a share, absent the whole shorting issue, etc. - and it's market demand.
I really hope this exceeds Google, honestly I do, but we are a long way from that. Not weeks, months, years maybe.
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Once this goes Mainstream...
BOOYAH!!!!! ha ha ~
-and yes I'm excited, but I think with REALLY good reasons (7 Billion of them!)
now excuse me it looks like Repo has a nice bridge to sell me! Maybe I can talk him into payments seeing how TDAmeriturd got turned down for a loan today to cover what our CEO is doing to them, which is basically this!
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