stoplossed means he was not allowed to be discharged when his time was up, and he was forced to stay on even tho his EAOS had come and gone... i beleive he mentioned it once and didn't complain like many did...
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Nothing wrong with complaining.
We use to do it all the time in Vietnam, they use to say if we weren't complaining something must really be wrong. We never disappointed.
And if they had sent Vietnam Veterans home and then decided to send them back, probably 70%+ would be AWOL, maybe we were wimps compared to Iraq, Afghan Vets?
And i am not trying to take anything away from Pagan and his service and not complaining.
Each person has his or her way of coping with different situations.
The problem society has in general, is that there is a stigma on mental health!
You can see how effective it has been right here on this thread...
Before this incident took place, raybond was pro gun...
now he wants new gun laws that will not be effective in preventing this from happening again, and will only serve the "bad guys" that don't abide by the laws anyway...
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I really do not think this was the reason this guy killed these kids, but this is my opinion.
You are right people do get real emotionable over the kids, rightfully so.
I feel this happened for other reasons and some people are using it to push their cause.
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First off Glass..I was speaking to Iwish...not you...CCM's dad. And you say he provided you with incontrevertible evidence in 2003. Well he didn't register on AS til Apr of 2004.
You are FOS on most things. Whenever anyone mentions anything, you claim to be an expert on it. That is utter BS.
And some of us don't have or feel the need to provide info to about zip as far as our real mil service. If you believe that moron CCM...that's your problem.
You need to take off the JiffyPop hat for a little while with your insane conspiracy theories. It's becoming oldhat and ridiculous. Maybe you should concentrate on your wife's patents or something. ya know, the one's everyone is stealing? Get over yourself. Your just an anonymous schlub on an anonymous MB with a holier than thou attitude.
Yes, you are quite the googler, I'll give you that. But get over yourself. And again, take off the JiffyPop hat for a while, your brain needs some air after some of your recent posts. Btw...just my opinion.
Have fun with your responses!
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LOL wow pagan at least you checked the dates, i didn't... i missed a couple months... lessee, april 2004 would be 4 to 5 months off out of 90 some? that's a margin of error that is not to shabby for human memory over almost ten years...
as to the rest of your post? you sound like you have a problem you should see somebody about it... i'm trying to remebr ever being rude to you... can't figger it.. not my problem, yours.and i won't make it my problem either no matter how much you try.
in order to google? you have to know what you are looking for-- think about that for awhile.. it doesn't just pop on your screen magically or with a single word, i am a damn good googler in fact, cuz i know how to work the algorythms. i know how to use unusual keywoirdds that automatically reifne my searches to what i am looking for...
as to conspiracies? there are always conspiracies and you prove my point about the way people just like to put others down for thinking...
i ddn;t put out a conspiracy theory today i put the facts about three shooters out, and leave the rest you try to comprndez... soembody asked, i gave an answer that has soem though behind it... i ain't barricading myself in and waiting for the black helicopters tho...
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: LOL wow pagan at least you checked the dates, i didn't... i missed a couple months... lessee, april 2004 would be 4 to 5 months off out of 90 some? that's a margin of error that is not to shabby for human memory over almost ten years...
as to the rest of your post? you sound like you have a problem you should see somebody about it... i'm trying to remebr ever being rude to you... can't figger it.. not my problem, yours.and i won't make it my problem either no matter how much you try.
in order to google? you have to know what you are looking for-- think about that for awhile.. it doesn't just pop on your screen magically or with a single word, i am a damn good googler in fact, cuz i know how to work the algorythms. i know how to use unusual keywoirdds that automatically reifne my searches to what i am looking for...
as to conspiracies? there are always conspiracies and you prove my point about the way people just like to put others down for thinking...
i ddn;t put out a conspiracy theory today i put the facts about three shooters out, and leave the rest you try to comprndez... soembody asked, i gave an answer that has soem though behind it... i ain't barricading myself in and waiting for the black helicopters tho...
Well your dates were way off. And him supposedly vetting himself to some anonymous poster on a MB is even funnier.
I couldn't possibly care less about. And obviously you have to put in search terms knucklehead. Maybe you should invent and patent a websearch where you don't have to input any criteria. Oh wait..thats right...somebody would steal it.
And you only offend me, and any other person with your attitude that you know everything. And you don't...not even close. Searching the web is not intelligence...it's just looking up info to portray intelligence on your part.
Maybe you need a new exhaust fan in your glass studio. Because apparently you are breathin in too many fumes.
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the fact that i offend you is a compliment. i know many people just like you they have to be the smartest int he room or they get ugly..
i know my limitations and work with them. i do find my limitations by trying to imporve myself. googling is learning, because i care enough to learn stuff everyday.
i challenge people to think. i accept new ideas and evaluate them...
you just condemn. have fun with thta.
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so pagan waht's really eatin' you here? you know me well enough to know that i am here anonymously and not trying to sell people a damn thing. i quit pushing stocks when i relaised that nothing good come out o fit.
you don't like cahs cow moo, but you have to realise that when the Daimond mining company was being pumped here (CMKX)? i was on the skeptics side and we all shared emails then- so there was alotta sidechatter.. i knew cashcow from that,and dardadog too- remebr him? maybe not, i think he backed off about the time you came here...
he was in the spec forces down in south america and got screwed byt hat too...
publicly cashcow was still working on an oil rig (right cash?) but photos were shared and they were conclusive.... cash was in combat and i saw the pix.
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LOL!! You are so far off the mark with your "expert" evaluation Mr Freud. I'm just calling BS on you. Should I peruse back the the bast couple of months to show your comments on every thread where your an expert and C/P them for you? I have no need to be the smartest in the room, that is you glass. Name one other poster on this board that goes to the extremes that you do to try to prove how smart you think you are? Oh that's right...NO ONE else does that. just you.
Well...I'm sure you'll peck the keys a bit more tonight...but I actually have a life and will check your misfiring missives tomorrow and repudiate them. Have a busy night glassy!
Until tomorrow then!
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Too be honest...CCM is nothing to me. Just some misguided fool on an MB. I was here when dardadog was here, as well as keithsan, the idian chick, and when you guys had that fiasco about that one stock LOL!. But that is beside the point. Have a good night.
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quote:Originally posted by Pagan: LOL!! You are so far off the mark with your "expert" evaluation Mr Freud. I'm just calling BS on you. Should I peruse back the the bast couple of months to show your comments on every thread where your an expert and C/P them for you? I have no need to be the smartest in the room, that is you glass. Name one other poster on this board that goes to the extremes that you do to try to prove how smart you think you are? Oh that's right...NO ONE else does that. just you.
Well...I'm sure you'll peck the keys a bit more tonight...but I actually have a life and will check your misfiring missives tomorrow and repudiate them. Have a busy night glassy!
Until tomorrow then!
so you beleive that the desire to learn expressin gthat desire openly and then sharing what you learn is bad or messed up? LOL... you won't offend me this way pagan...
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quote:Originally posted by Pagan: Too be honest...CCM is nothing to me. Just some misguided fool on an MB. I was here when dardadog was here, as well as keithsan, the idian chick, and when you guys had that fiasco about that one stock LOL!. But that is beside the point. Have a good night.
actaully htere were about ten fiascos... oh wait, i better check the books it may be 9 or 11... i don't want to be wrong. good night to you too friend...
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quote:Originally posted by Pagan: LOL!! You are so far off the mark with your "expert" evaluation Mr Freud. I'm just calling BS on you. Should I peruse back the the bast couple of months to show your comments on every thread where your an expert and C/P them for you? I have no need to be the smartest in the room, that is you glass. Name one other poster on this board that goes to the extremes that you do to try to prove how smart you think you are? Oh that's right...NO ONE else does that. just you.
Well...I'm sure you'll peck the keys a bit more tonight...but I actually have a life and will check your misfiring missives tomorrow and repudiate them. Have a busy night glassy!
Until tomorrow then!
so you beleive that the desire to learn expressin gthat desire openly and then sharing what you learn is bad or messed up? LOL... you won't offend me this way pagan...
Again your little twist won't work glass. You are not claiming to be learning when you post your authoritative posts on subjects. You feel the need to act like you are the authority. And you aren't. Not even close.
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quote:Originally posted by Pagan: Too be honest...CCM is nothing to me. Just some misguided fool on an MB. I was here when dardadog was here, as well as keithsan, the idian chick, and when you guys had that fiasco about that one stock LOL!. But that is beside the point. Have a good night.
actaully htere were about ten fiascos... oh wait, i better check the books it may be 9 or 11... i don't want to be wrong. good night to you too friend...
I'm sure your life is full of many more fiasco's than that. But I was referring strictly to stocks in that post
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btw? you should not lie about your problem with CCM... that's not right. you do have a problem with him, and Iwish expressing concern for him brough tit out of you... think about that for awhile... i have never disrespectd you and i 'm not about to start now... it's not what i'm about
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quote:Originally posted by Pagan: Too be honest...CCM is nothing to me. Just some misguided fool on an MB. I was here when dardadog was here, as well as keithsan, the idian chick, and when you guys had that fiasco about that one stock LOL!. But that is beside the point. Have a good night.
actaully htere were about ten fiascos... oh wait, i better check the books it may be 9 or 11... i don't want to be wrong. good night to you too friend...
I'm sure your life is full of many more fiasco's than that. But I was referring strictly to stocks in that post
many and i have shared many of them here like screwing my hand to a door and and other mistakes, i'm not really that hung upabout being right like youthink, i'm a learner, i like learning and sharing ideas, i challenge others and myself to learn... that's what i do here, it shouldn't bother you so much-and sure i play at being compettive about it, but it's not an unhealthy competitveness, it's just what guys do...
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: btw? you should not lie about your problem with CCM... that's not right. you do have a problem with him, and Iwish expressing concern for him brough tit out of you... think about that for awhile... i have never disrespectd you and i 'm not about to start now... it's not what i'm about
Iwish's post had nothing to do with anything. I have just been readin your post's the last couple days and felt the need to call BS. Because that is all those posts are. You have a good night as well friend.
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for reference? the CMKX fiasco was really bad bfore you got here in '05. we had some people doing the pumnp on it that were posting things like they SAW diamonds with their own eyes and stuff... i never bought it, and i was newbie then and just watched how the thing developed... i ended up at full scale war with that debbie "what would Jesus do" girl who was pumping the hell out of it.. she claimed to be in for six figures and was using the Christian thing to try to convince peopel to buy it at .0001....
if that is the stock you are referring to, i never did much other then teell people to stay away form it
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quote:Originally posted by IWISHIHAD: Originally Posted By CashCowMoo:
How far down the rabbit hole is our society? You want to be optimistic, but we seem to be really entering a new era of dramatic commons.
The smart are getting smarter, the dumb are getting dumber. Same thing with money. More poor with a strong rich.
We have some significant events ongoing and brewing in the middle east that will probably unfold in 2013. Dont forget the terrible drought the heartland is in and has been. Crops took a beating from last summer. I bet there is some money to be made in grain futures.
Have you seen the new Chinese attack helicopter? It looks pretty sweet actually.
Wont be long before we are outmatched in the skies and in the seas let alone land.
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CashCowMoo, you need to find some things in life you really like to do and do them as often as you can.
Enjoy what you have and don't worry so much about what bad things might happen tomorrow.
Lifes to short and your to young to have this much time to worry.
I am not telling you what to do, just hoping you enjoy things more.
You spent many years following what others told you to do, now do what you really want to do, especially if you have your health and can do those things.
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Oh I have many things I enjoy doing and am pursuing great things. Its hard to not worry about it sometimes. You just cant let it consume you, but still be aware.
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quote:Originally posted by Pagan: Too be honest...CCM is nothing to me. Just some misguided fool on an MB. I was here when dardadog was here, as well as keithsan, the idian chick, and when you guys had that fiasco about that one stock LOL!. But that is beside the point. Have a good night.
You are as equally worthless to me Pagan. Are you surprised? I hope you find a better side for yourself. I think you refer to CMKX? CMKX was the first stock I ever bought. Put $3K in it and what a roller coaster. People to this day still believe in it.
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That is my old brigade, and C co was my company I Was in Baghdad with my second tour. I am not shi*ing you when I tell you I knew that kid. He was in my platoon! 2nd platoon Charlie.
He was messed up in the head, but he was never ill-willed to his fellow soldiers. ------------------------------------------------- This article was about Fort Carson where he was stationed and me, of course at a lot different time.
Thought i remembered it being said, guess i could have just asked CashCowMoo.
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Yeah wow how did you find that iwish? His name was marko. He was a mortarman. 11 Charlie. Anyway, this guy had the weirdest fascination with alien raptors, as in the dinosaurs. It is a long story. It was sick what he did. Here is the thing, that was some years ago. People dont look at other people with suspicion of doing something horrendous. I think we are entering a new era of paranoia. Instead of paranoia of big government, it is against your fellow American. Is Todd's son safe to be around my child? Does Mary and David keep guns in the home with their kids who hang out with mine"?
The thing with the crazy guy marko, you know if he would have seen a psychologist before joining its a 50-50 shot if they could have picked up on something. Same for anyone out there in life who talks to a psychologist or something similar. If you go and talk to them the real crazy types who are supposedly genius, they have the ability to fool the system to get them labeled as not a threat and sound for gun ownership. They will slide through the cracks.
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they have the ability to fool the system to get them labeled as not a threat and sound for gun ownership. They will slide through the cracks.
and who will grade the tests anyway? remebr Catch -22? There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he were sane he had to fly them. If he flew them he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to. Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of this clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle.
psychologuists will be afraid to rate people unfit for fear of being attacked bythem when they are told they can't have agun, and they will also be afriad of being sued by victims who feel they didn't grade somebody harshly enough... catch -22 all over again..
and saldy, poper evaluation cannot really be done without being face to face with people the psychs can't hide adn decide.
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quote:Originally posted by IWISHIHAD: Only took a few minutes, got lucky i guess.
Remembered you saying several times about your second tour, then saw the article about Fort Carson.
Kinda remembered this because of me being there(Fort Carson) also and sure enough it showed up.
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4th ID is now HQ out of Carson. 2nd ID went to Lewis. They have expanded Carson quite a bit. There were always a good amount of women around there too. Good times at Carson.
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Interesting to hear they are expanding Fort Carson, but it was and probably still is one of the major alert bases.
Many bases are cutting back but a few are growing, Camp Pendleton is expanding also, a new half billion dollar hospital is being built and quite a few other new buildings.
I enjoyed Carson, spent most of my time sking and visiting bars.
Fairly nice area even back in the sixties.
The ski area and olympic rink helped the area grow and the military bases(Army,Airforce) have brought lots of income in.
I have not been back since 70, but would like to see the area again some day.
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Did i hear him correctly...we the people can now be prosecuted for posting theories on the net?
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quote:Originally posted by raybond: Glass you are going nuts
Ray...you have made statements here and have not responded with any proof of those statements...you are breaking the law and could be prosecuted for posting false information on the net...
You sir are NOT above the law...and therefore a criminal like the rest of us here
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If you think about it, pagan shows a lot of anger in his posts. Like something is cooped up inside him kicking and screaming to get out. What is really going on in your mind pagan?
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as to the cops threatening people about social media? i sortof watched that press release, and when he made that statement he got my whole attention..
i dunno what he is referring to but it's just more strangeness...
all i know is that there is a non-stop barrage of gun control messaging on CNN and MSNBC. Journalists are yelling at the camera, and being very emotional- i spent a few hours posting against it and am told i'm nuts, and or delusional because i think i know stuff i don't, (or something like that)
fact is? there is something wrong and i tis widepsread... and banning guns won't fix it. people resort to violence and name calling too easily. event he liberal shwo are supposedly out to save us form ourselves.
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