posted December 22, 2004 12:14            

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Originally posted by tqn:
Whiz,
help me pls, as i havent done any dd for this, but, is it too late to jump in? Clyde got in for 500k.

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posted December 22, 2004 12:18            

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Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:

Seems I pulled the trigger too early. .0029 - oh well it's only money. what goes down hopefully goes up.

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posted December 22, 2004 12:19            

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Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:

Seems I pulled the trigger too early. .0029 - oh well it's only money. what goes down hopefully goes up.

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posted December 22, 2004 12:25            

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Originally posted by pennyearned:
Should get a fourth PR today regarding cash/securities dividend.

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Is that a good thing or a bad thing???????

posted December 22, 2004 12:32            

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Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
Is that a good thing or a bad thing???????

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2 much posting on Q board will lead to memory loss. But they have some pretty good medication on the market for that sort of thing I could write you a Rx. Nice to see you here.

posted December 22, 2004 12:37            

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Originally posted by tqn:
Whiz,
help me pls, as i havent done any dd for this, but, is it too late to jump in? Clyde got in for 500k.

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TQN!

All I can tell you is I've got a GTC sell order in at .05 & another block at .07 & will still hold a core position on the off chance that it really goes balistic.

This thing has some wild swings to it but just speaking for me, if I was Clyde I wouldn't be sweating it. If this thing does what we think it might it could have a run much like QBID did last April, only higher.

Hope that helps!

posted December 22, 2004 12:38            

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Originally posted by Doctoall:
2 much posting on Q board will lead to memory loss. But they have some pretty good medication on the market for that sort of thing I could write you a Rx. Nice to see you here.

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Actually there are times that I prefer to forget. (AFRD)

posted December 22, 2004 12:45            

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Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
Is that a good thing or a bad thing???????

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This could be a very good thing depending on what the dividend is. Mario has already set the run up by delivering on one dividend so what ever he says people already know his word is good.

posted December 22, 2004 12:47            

Regarding this stock--patience is the key. Many believe--myself included--that this one has only begun to get started. Remember, this stock was down to .0001 just a month ago. Mario has a lot going on--the next month or two will tell.

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Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:
Is that a good thing or a bad thing???????

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posted December 22, 2004 12:57            

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Originally posted by whizknock:
TQN!

All I can tell you is I've got a GTC sell order in at .05 & another block at .07 & will still hold a core position on the off chance that it really goes balistic.

This thing has some wild swings to it but just speaking for me, if I was Clyde I wouldn't be sweating it. If this thing does what we think it might it could have a run much like QBID did last April, only higher.

Hope that helps!

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posted December 22, 2004 13:48            

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Originally posted by pennyearned:
Good!!! Over 1.5B on the 17th--date of record for dividend. Many wanted in on this one. Mario made good on his first dividend promise--WLSC. Doing so on this one will lend more credibility and spike interest as he has other things in the works. Bashers and naysayers will have to go elsewhere to have their fun--the rest of us can ride the wave.

Regarding this stock--patience is the key. Many believe--myself included--that this one has only begun to get started. Remember, this stock was down to .0001 just a month ago. Mario has a lot going on--the next month or two will tell.

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If the record date is 12/17/04 and you buy on that day you don't get the dividend.

posted December 22, 2004 14:10            

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Originally posted by Clyde Crashcup:

Not worried whiz - I've been watching this and it does swing like a wild man from the trees.

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posted December 22, 2004 14:22            

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Originally posted by tqn:
Thanks Whiz.
Clyde, i am in for 400k. let see how much more money do i have to lose ! lol. walmart shopping bag diapers are still on.

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You can also line them with Bounty the quicker picker upper papertowels to make the shopping bags more super absorbant. Of course the stock has to go up to afford the paper towels.

posted December 22, 2004 15:16            

BJ

posted December 22, 2004 15:50            

pink sheets free level 2 kindly provided by MLON

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Originally posted by BJ:
Lostone or Anyone - Just wondering how you can see the current bids out there. Is there a website that you use to see what kind of bids people ae placing?

BJ

[This message has been edited by BJ (edited December 22, 2004).]

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posted December 22, 2004 16:43            

Recently, Mario has issued many PR's regarding dividends, acquisitions, buyouts, and revenue-generating activities which have sparked interest and have rejuvenated the PPS. He wants to be a publicly-reporting company early 05, and has been speculation on a PPS value of between .05-.20 cents a share.

posted December 22, 2004 17:09            

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Originally posted by Golf57:
Question for everyone? Why did this stock go all the way down to 0001 for and, why is it going back up.
I used to follow this Co a while back and then lost interest but I am interested on why the big drop.

Thaks for any reply.

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Golf!

Pennyearned summed that up perfectly! I'm in a hold mode & own a good chunk.

posted December 22, 2004 20:54            

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Originally posted by glassman:
club extreme wasn't a problem from my perspective....
the reaction a lot of people had to it surprised me.
it's just another business in the stable...

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posted December 22, 2004 21:25            

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Originally posted by jugiproject:
Newbie here, just started trading , and i just got around to looking at mlon from these threads and a little DD. Looks good, i was wondering would it be too late to buy in now? i saw some other posts where people bought in at .0002, no its above .002... would it be ok to get in now for the long term?

Uhhhh............................YEEEEEEEEAHHH! I say that emphatically because this stock has the potential to pass a penny before the New Year and in January "could" turn into anywhere into .05-.15....most likely .10. You may not have gotten in on the bottom but dont let that keep you from turning a profit....my uncle (Dan Mascroft) got in at .0003 but I still jumped in at .0026 because I know that there is no losing....hope you get in and make some money... "always follow the dog"
JP

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posted December 22, 2004 21:29            

it's like watching a 99 yard drive in football....
it's like taking on 4 new tires with only 25 laps to go and having to start behind 25 other cars....
it's not a sure thing....

posted December 22, 2004 23:11            

What exactly does this mean?

posted December 23, 2004 02:19            

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Originally posted by rango:
http://www.intelective.com/about.htm

See the client list..

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posted December 23, 2004 08:46            

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Originally posted by realityinc21:
GREAT ENTRY POINT.

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Yor're right! Welcome aboard!

posted December 23, 2004 08:53            

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Originally posted by whizknock:
Yor're right! Welcome aboard!

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WHIZ,

BEEN ON BOARD SINCE .0006 AND .0007. I WONDER IF WE COULD HIRE MARIO TO DO THE PR'S FOR Q?? HE DOES HAVE FLARE!! LOL

MARIO SEEMS TO GET THE JOB DONE!! THAT IS WHAT COUNTS.

BOY I AM LOADED WITH PINKS LATELY. MLON--QBID AND NMCX. RISKY. POTENTIAL OF ALL THREE COMPANYS IS OUTSTANDING.

posted December 23, 2004 09:13            

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Originally posted by Boletus:
I've been getting up day after day since may wondering "is this the day?" with QBID. With MLON the PRs lead me to believe that a big run may come sooner than later. Good to see Diana the daytrading wizard here.

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THANK YOU. YOU MADE MY DAY.

posted December 23, 2004 09:24            

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Originally posted by realityinc21:
WHIZ,

BEEN ON BOARD SINCE .0006 AND .0007. I WONDER IF WE COULD HIRE MARIO TO DO THE PR'S FOR Q?? HE DOES HAVE FLARE!! LOL

MARIO SEEMS TO GET THE JOB DONE!! THAT IS WHAT COUNTS.

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True! He's a master of PRs. Mario has no fear & will say anything we want to hear. But keep in mind that he lives up to his word. He paid those WLSC dividends & anyone who receaved them has said as much.

I've been on this puppy since July & was angry when he did a sharp right hand turn on his business plan but held because he is well conected & appeared to be a serious hustler. Even averaged down big time & now very pleased with the outcome. Good news is the best is yet to come. Check my next couple of posts of other peoples DD to get an idea where this is headed.

posted December 23, 2004 09:24            

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Originally posted by travman:
Here is my math, let me know if I am way off. I am not understanding this:
3,000,000 million shares of ERDTF (@ $19) = $57,000,000

$45,000,000/3,000,000 shares = $15 (value of stock for this deal)

500,000,000 shares of MLON (@$ 0.001) is $500,000

$45,000,000/500,000,000 shares = $0.09 (value of stock for this deal)

So this deal went through with MLON valued at $0.09???

[This message has been edited by travman (edited December 16, 2004).]
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posted December 23, 2004 09:25            

By: stervc
21 Dec 2004, 11:10 AM EST
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MLON*Parallel Valuation* please review...

Once again, I love the news that MLON keeps putting out. Although there are some things about MLON's validity that might be questionable, there are some things that we must consider that are less questionable or even at all to some. I do think I see where they are getting their logic of MLON being worth .10 to .15 cents. These are only my thoughts as to what I see as some options for consideration. I will end this post with some thoughts on how I interpreted the latest press releases (PRs) and the power behind the possibility of a cash dividend to make sure you understand if released in the upcoming PRs from MLON.

Before reading any further, understand that I am not saying whether or not I believe in MLON. I am just saying that it doesn't matter what I think. We must "mostly" realize that it doesn't matter what “you” or I think about MLON or any other stock. It's what the market thinks about MLON or the stock at hand. The average investor does not invest in a company from actually going to visit the company first hand or talking to them, but instead from the standard form of literature available to the public for viewing through PRs, filings, etc. This is how the masses decide whether to invest or not in a stock. These groups of investors usually invest not based on facts alone (if they exist), but also on potential that is brought out by the company (or others) for all to consider.

With that said, MLON has put out the most powerful PRs that any penny stock has ever put out during my entire tenure of investing since the 1990's in my opinion. Because of such, I must say that I do believe in MLON enough to take the risk for what it has to offer us investors. If it was truly a pump and dump, I think we would have already been back at .0002 cents by now.

What is happening here with MLON is something that I was suspecting to happen with CMKX. Yes, the price going up is good, but I was referring to something I made up called Parallel Valuation (PV). When you get some time and after first finishing this post, come back to read the link below to see how it was derived from my old CMKX/SGGM thoughts for a further understanding. http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=109280

Parallel Valuation (PV) is when we have a "dividend exchange" taking place to create this new type of valuation. This dividend is two-sided and not one-sided as like most dividends. This causes a valuation to be placed on each of the stocks exchanging dividends from the price of the other. This correlation exists because of the two companies exchanging dividends in each other and not just one company giving the dividend to the other without the other not receiving a dividend in return which is usually the norm.

Due to the exchanging of dividends each stock will trade as a subsidiary under each other causing a direct correlation in valuation even past the date of record for the dividends. So, the increase and decrease of a stock would have a direct correlation with the price of the other.

In discussing Parallel Valuation, let's focus on just one of the recent major deals that have recently transacted with MLON:
The acquiring of 3,000,000 shares of Equity Retirement Distributors Canada Ltd. (ERDTF.PK) in exchange for 500,000,000 newly issued MLON shares subject to SEC RULE 144. http://www.knobias.com/individual/public/news.htm?eid=3.1.765058a16230e655e890e7a90938c57cfd1fe83d565c2b96a1723f0d8db71629

Let's look at the agreement between ERDTF which we will use the closing price of $19.00 for ERDTF and of .0023 cents for MLON on the day of this transaction this past Friday, 17 Dec 04.

** 3,000,000 shares of ERDTF x $19.00 per share = $57,000,000 in value

** 500,000,000 shares of MLON x .0023 cent(s) = $1,150,000 in value

That means that somebody believes enough in MLON to tell them that if MLON gives them $1,150,000 in their value, they will give them $57,000,000 in its value and do so because they feel that they are doing so at a discounted rate. Nobody does a deal under the assumption that it is transacting its deal at a premium. This means that our shares of MLON are significantly undervalued until its $1,150,000 value reaches the value of $57,000,000 value of ERTDF. This is the point of equilibrium.

Now the question would be: How do we determine a fair price to purchase MLON for a fair risk until it reaches that point of equilibrium that's compatible with its dividend exchanged stock, ERDTF? There are a few ways to see this. Let's see…

As of Friday, 17 Dec 04 we’ll use since the day of consummation for the deal:

The point of equilibrium for the price of MLON is what we are trying to determine for knowing when MLON will reach such with ERDTF at $19.00 per share. The base total to use here is $57,000,000 as the point of equilibrium as derived from the example above. Let's solve for "X" to see how we must view this to see where MLON should be bought up to for reaching the point of equilibrium.

Key Variables for Resolution
X = Equilibrium price of MLON
Shares of MLON Exchanged = 500,000,000
The Equilibrium Value of ERDTF = $57,000,000

Solve for X,

500,000,000 x X = $57,000,000
X = $57,000,000 ÷ 500,000,000
X = .114 cents

This means that 500,000,000 shares of MLON at .114 cents is where the equivalent value of (500,000,000 x .114 = $57,000,000) needs to be to capture equilibrium with the value of ERDTF at the time the deal was completed (or made known to the public). If the point of equilibrium is .114 cents from these thoughts, this means that any shares of MLON bought under .114 cents is considered undervalued.

I think this is how the company is seeing the value in itself. This means that the value of MLON is .114 cents from the ERDTF deal alone. From the Western minerals/PRMN deal, I calculated it to be .01 to .02 cents with using the same logic for solution as above. This gives MLON even more value giving MLON the official justification to show why they think they are worth .10 to .15 cents. Keep in mind this does not include the 10,000,000 shares of RRBK at $14.75 per share that they own or the $45,000,000 in assets or any other previous or future deals that they have on the table for continued enhancement of MLON valuation. RRBK link from Money…made: http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=MLON&read=19843
I think this is why they see that they will start entertaining offers at .10 cents per share.

So, why is Mario doing all of this hyping as many have termed it? Well let's see. The market is one big pool of a Network Marketing concept meaning that it reacts because of "word of mouth," getting the word out for people to buy shares in your stock. If you released huge news and nobody even knew of your existence, your stock would not move. Stocks do not trade in the market to not get investor attention, but instead because of trying to gain investor attention.

The way the attention is being built to a climax with MLON to bring and enhance investor confidence is very well orchestrated. All they have to do is deliver the “key” substance as it appears that MLON is building key announcements to be made at the price obtainment of .01 cent.

Since the Float is low with ERDTF, it wouldn't take much buying power to make it run even higher enhancing the value of MLON along the way. Money could be strategically placed into ERDTF to enhance the Parallel Valuation in MLON to get it jumpstarted towards rectifying the covering process, if any naked short problem exists. This would give us two floats, the legitimate and illegitimate floats. If enough of the "illegitimate float" have been absorbed (or eliminated), then MLON could run a lot higher and faster to enhance the Parallel Valuation more than what ERDTF would do because of the larger consideration for percentage gains. There is actually more to this which is actually too much to explain for now. Heck, this post is already gonna be long enough long enough. LOL

As you can see, MLON would be significantly undervalued and an immediate proportioned valuation should be placed into MLON as compared to the price of ERDTF because of Parallel Valuation. Let's make better sense of this for a better understanding.

1 share of ERDTF would cost you $19.00 per share. To get a better understanding of the power of Parallel Valuation, we must determine how much an equivalent price of MLON shares would be for that 1 share of ERDTF.

ERDTF shares exchanged = 3,000,000
MLON shares exchanged = 500,000,000

500,000,000 ÷ 3,000,000 = 167

This means that the 167 number is the MLON share price multiple to use to determine this other point of equilibrium to see how it relates to Parallel Valuation. This means that 167 shares of MLON theoretically equates to 1 share of ERDTF. To further explain the importance.

1 share of ERDTF @ $19.00 = 167 shares of MLON @ .0023 cent(s)

1(ERDTF) x $19.00 = 167(MLON) x .0023

$19.00 = .3841

Price paid for 1 share of ERDTF = $19.00
Price paid for 167 shares of MLON = .38 cents at .0023

This is like you giving me .38 cents and me giving you back $19.00 in return. This means that MLON should be bought up to where the price of MLON x 167 equates to $19.00 for the 1 share of ERDTF. That would be the .114 cents that we talked about earlier. As you see that .114 cents x 167 would roughly give you the $19.00 per share equivalency of ERDTF. This is another way of determining the point of equilibrium. MLON would be considered under valued until such .114 cents point of equilibrium has been obtained.

posted December 23, 2004 10:29            

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Originally posted by liquid49:
Can someone please explain to me why this stock was at 2 cents today for five minutes? Is this a mistake....was there something that prob went on behind the scenes? Why did this happen and why couldnt I sell at that price? I appreciate your help. Thanks you.

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