quote:Originally posted by 10of13: beandog...i almost always attempt to give peeps a chance...I don't fall for alot of the BS...but I like to give chances...
thOth? Can you post the email?
I don't want to get spammed by anyone that reads this board. What's your email address? I'll forward you the email I got from FCCN IR.
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10..VFIN has been sitting on the ask for over a week now...I posted this concern last week and no one paid any attention to it. When an MM like VFIN sits on the ask for that long, one of three things are happening...and none of them are good!
1. Someone has a lot of shares to dump..and they are dumping them. 2. VFIN is short selling shares they don't have...or 3. The company is diluting
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Has anyone noticed how VFIN is able to always sell? He has been on the ask...pretty much without fail...REGARDLESS what that is... On the bid side...he has sat at .035 ALL day...granted his time stamp changes..but he has stayed at .035 since at least 10:30 am...
quote:Originally posted by retiredat49: 10..VFIN has been sitting on the ask for over a week now...I posted this concern last week and no one paid any attention to it. When an MM like VFIN sits on the ask for that long, one of three things are happening...and none of them are good!
1. Someone has a lot of shares to dump..and they are dumping them. 2. VFIN is short selling shares they don't have...or 3. The company is diluting
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Has anyone noticed how VFIN is able to always sell? He has been on the ask...pretty much without fail...REGARDLESS what that is... On the bid side...he has sat at .035 ALL day...granted his time stamp changes..but he has stayed at .035 since at least 10:30 am...
That is something to "mark" in my lil book...FWIW
People have claimed dilution, but the charts don't agree. I think this stock is being Day traded to DEATH. Everybody I know is trading the chit out of it. When we were sitting at .051 today and everybody held it shot up like a rocket. I'm taking this day by day. When the company follows through with what they have told me than they will earn more of my trust. Until then, I will stay cautious. JMHO
quote:Originally posted by retiredat49: 10..VFIN has been sitting on the ask for over a week now...I posted this concern last week and no one paid any attention to it. When an MM like VFIN sits on the ask for that long, one of three things are happening...and none of them are good!
1. Someone has a lot of shares to dump..and they are dumping them. 2. VFIN is short selling shares they don't have...or 3. The company is diluting
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Has anyone noticed how VFIN is able to always sell? He has been on the ask...pretty much without fail...REGARDLESS what that is... On the bid side...he has sat at .035 ALL day...granted his time stamp changes..but he has stayed at .035 since at least 10:30 am...
That is something to "mark" in my lil book...FWIW
People have claimed dilution, but the charts don't agree. I think this stock is being Day traded to DEATH. Everybody I know is trading the chit out of it. When we were sitting at .051 today and everybody held it shot up like a rocket. I'm taking this day by day. When the company follows through with what they have told me than they will earn more of my trust. Until then, I will stay cautious. JMHO
Yes i remember you posted that Retired...I didn't think much of it...until I watched today and all he did was sit on the bid side at .035...never moved
to me that is odd to always be able to sell and yet never buy? Cass? Dilution? Don't know...but it seems odd for an MM to never buy...but always sell...I'll watch tomorrow if I can...
Does anyone have any other explanation for it?
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quote:Originally posted by retiredat49: 10..VFIN has been sitting on the ask for over a week now...I posted this concern last week and no one paid any attention to it. When an MM like VFIN sits on the ask for that long, one of three things are happening...and none of them are good!
1. Someone has a lot of shares to dump..and they are dumping them. 2. VFIN is short selling shares they don't have...or 3. The company is diluting
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Has anyone noticed how VFIN is able to always sell? He has been on the ask...pretty much without fail...REGARDLESS what that is... On the bid side...he has sat at .035 ALL day...granted his time stamp changes..but he has stayed at .035 since at least 10:30 am...
That is something to "mark" in my lil book...FWIW
People have claimed dilution, but the charts don't agree. I think this stock is being Day traded to DEATH. Everybody I know is trading the chit out of it. When we were sitting at .051 today and everybody held it shot up like a rocket. I'm taking this day by day. When the company follows through with what they have told me than they will earn more of my trust. Until then, I will stay cautious. JMHO
Yes i remember you posted that Retired...I didn't think much of it...until I watched today and all he did was sit on the bid side at .035...never moved
to me that is odd to always be able to sell and yet never buy? Cass? Dilution? Don't know...but it seems odd for an MM to never buy...but always sell...I'll watch tomorrow if I can...
Does anyone have any other explanation for it?
Is it possible VFIN as an institution has brokered buys through another institution. VFIN was in selling mode last week and would 911.. twice I remember. Then SBSH jumped up and started to sell shares. Each time.
Who lives on the BID? SBSH. Still trying to figure this out.... wondered this myself...
However... we are "close" to news. LOL I think we'll get it. My eyes are open however.
quote:Originally posted by retiredat49: 10..VFIN has been sitting on the ask for over a week now...I posted this concern last week and no one paid any attention to it. When an MM like VFIN sits on the ask for that long, one of three things are happening...and none of them are good!
1. Someone has a lot of shares to dump..and they are dumping them. 2. VFIN is short selling shares they don't have...or 3. The company is diluting
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Has anyone noticed how VFIN is able to always sell? He has been on the ask...pretty much without fail...REGARDLESS what that is... On the bid side...he has sat at .035 ALL day...granted his time stamp changes..but he has stayed at .035 since at least 10:30 am...
That is something to "mark" in my lil book...FWIW
most people trading this stock noticed that and i agree with your statement in general however VFIN has been acting like this since the initial run starting on dec.12 since that day i´m watching the stock and VFIN has almost always been on top of the ask your thoughts mentioned above were the same thoughts and concerns i had from day 1 but then look at the gains this stock made in such a short time! something doesn´t add up here... another idea: what if one or even two market maker got the assignment to buy up a big part of the public float in a certain given time?... and try to keep the average as low as possible how would trading look like in this case? IF the merger is for real this scenario could be possible once again i have to say AERO is an established and respected company, i just can´t see them being involved in a stock-scam if the merger wasn´t for real we would know it by now already of course i can be wrong, but i don´t think so...
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taking turns on the "merry go round" imo. Try selling 2mm or however many they were dumping at once has to be broken up into pieces. in the meantime others are buying and getting their sells in around them. just a stab at it.
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quote:Originally posted by retiredat49: That does NOT explain VFIN's constant selling though...again I am not bashing...just seeing something that doesn't sit well with me.
I never thought you were bashing, in fact VFIN has been pissing me off all week. I don't know what the heck they are doing, but it reminds me a lot of what NITE was doing with CSHD. I really don't think it's the company's fault though. GLTY
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tompom states: "...if the merger wasn´t for real we would know it by now already of course i can be wrong, but i don´t think so..."
I wish that was true...but NO..you wouldn't know...sorry...
I have no clue if this is a scam...to be honest? I personally don't care...I am playing it...BUT all should be careful and protect your capital...period...
Some of the other possibilities that have been posted on the MM's are real possibilities... AND? the stock is still moving up...even if they are diluting...isn't that what matters?
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"In December 2006, Franchise Capital entered into a preliminary agreement to acquire the issued and outstanding shares of Aero Exhaust, whose mufflers are an exclusive National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing (NASCAR) Performance product and carry the prestigious NASCAR brand on product, packaging and related media. NASCAR legend Rusty Wallace is the official spokesperson for Aero Exhaust products. The company is currently conducting its due diligence and expects to announce a definitive agreement with Aero Exhaust by mid-January 2007. "
Why would they say this if it weren't for real. It says mid-Jan, but no definite date. I wouldn't release any pr's until all the t's are crossed and the i's are dotted. Patience is a virtue. I am taking the long way with this one.
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Hey surf! I just wanted to add my thoughts on something. When I went down to Aero the other day, the gentleman I spoke to said that Aero had a lot going on with Nascar this year. When I spoke to Andrew yesterday he stated the exact same thing. Said they have a lot of news to put out on Aero, but they needed to get all the filings taken care of. Aero is undoubtedly a respectable and large company and being part of a pump and dump scam wouldn't be the best business plan IMO. Aero gave Andrew/FCCN permission to answer investors questions, and if Aero gave him the go ahead I'll have to give them the benifit of my doubt!
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Hey surf! I just wanted to add my thoughts on something. When I went down to Aero the other day, the gentleman I spoke to said that Aero had a lot going on with Nascar this year. When I spoke to Andrew yesterday he stated the exact same thing. Said they have a lot of news to put out on Aero, but they needed to get all the filings taken care of. Aero is undoubtedly a respectable and large company and being part of a pump and dump scam wouldn't be the best business plan IMO. Aero gave Andrew/FCCN permission to answer investors questions, and if Aero gave him the go ahead I'll have to give them the benifit of my doubt!
Damn straight. I don't think AERO is looking to screw with me... a regular guy that put stock in a commitment to merge... so I say it's step 1 for me... a PR and 8K confirmation that AERO intends to merge with FCCN. Then on to step 2. However, I have confidence that once AERO commits to the process... it's a done deal for me. Call me an idiot, but I don't think AERO or Javelin for that matter, or Peacock want to sully their reputations on some scam. To me.. this is what Peacock does... an excellent job in serving his clients' business needs. I surmise that Peacock and the rest of his crew at Javelin must have more money than they know what to do with. That's what success and wisdom provides these guys and it's a professional freedom that comes from good business moves.... the fun is in the kill. AERO is a slam dunk public company IMO. Where have you seen such an innovative product so perfectly placed in its medium... i.e. NASCAR? It can only grow from all this. It's a superior product with a superior presence.... a sticker on every NASCAR? Major distribution and relationship with Rockford-Montgomery Labs.. and the TV blimp... aaahhhh... the TV blimp.... exposure.
Enough dreaming... this is what it comes down to... deal or no deal. Once AERO signs on... odds of success are significantly higher IMO. Then I'll take it day by day from there.
Right now we wager... PR and 8k with merger agreement? or nothing? I know what my bet is.... and think the current PPS is a gift... especially if the PR comes out. I hope I get a chance to be part of another special opportunity like this... it'll test ya.
It's still a bet... so don't bet the farm.
It's just that it's only a nickel... sheesh...I know some people are pushing some chips in on this.
I watched a significant change in the methodology of the MM's trading over the past week. There was a pattern of resistance much stronger.. they dictated the selling.. nice and regular.. but controlled. However we see them now... spreads up to .005 between BID and ASK at these levels along with the accumulation by some major MM's is either still covering, or harvesting for later sale... Much more collecting going on, float seems gone... and buy pressure pushed this. What was with that quick azz pop this afternoon? And who the funk whacked it? I know it went up quick and you made some money but dang.. you acted like you never saw a dollar before. No matter... answer is around the corner.
Don't kid yourself.. the big money is covered both ways. Real shares to make cash on if it blows up, that's higher than the risk of shorting because the loss stops at zero PPS, and the upside goes oh so much higher. So they buy and do well no matter what with shorting but it's limited to a certain PPS, then they stop, especially before an exchange change. So they have risks too. But they always win. So how do we beat them?
You can't. Only a good business can break these limitations. They have to be the real deal. AERO seems like the real deal to me... especially at these levels. A PR and an 8K are worth waiting for to me. I know my risk. A good portion of us are comfortable at this point. So negatives right now just don't affect my bet at zero hour. People will come out with a lot of doubt...
There's a bash circulating tonight about the Transfer Agent being under a gag order... something about "not disclosing information to one person that is not fully disclosed to the public." They are trying to say it's a bad thing. I don't know the significance of a TA gag order .. or it's predictive effects .. I don't think I would find out before the company answers this for me. Seems like they don't want to take phone calls or let all the info be disclosed by the company. I don't know. Will I panic in the final hours?
PR and 8K of merger "soon"? Real soon.... yes or no.
I like my hand at this point... and my poker face is on.
Not a bet, buy or sell recommendation.... this guy's an idiot and if you take any words he may say as advice... you deserve to lose all your money. Just do your own DD... or follow the MOMO... whatever...
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RyBee? Do you trade penny stocks often? Pinks always say things that they didn't or aren't going to do...THEY ARE horrible... Be Careful...BE Cautious!
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quote:Originally posted by cassity: Dog, I just had a severe case of dajavou! LMAO
What?!?.. sums up how I'm feeling tonight... and that's a lot of type for a hunt-n-pecker. So I recycled. Fits the mood of the evening your statement was a good segue to my points. Touche.
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Dog, I just had a severe case of dajavou! LMAO
What?!?.. sums up how I'm feeling tonight... and that's a lot of type for a hunt-n-pecker. So I recycled. Fits the mood of the evening your statement was a good segue to my points. Touche.
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Hey surf! I just wanted to add my thoughts on something. When I went down to Aero the other day, the gentleman I spoke to said that Aero had a lot going on with Nascar this year. When I spoke to Andrew yesterday he stated the exact same thing. Said they have a lot of news to put out on Aero, but they needed to get all the filings taken care of. Aero is undoubtedly a respectable and large company and being part of a pump and dump scam wouldn't be the best business plan IMO. Aero gave Andrew/FCCN permission to answer investors questions, and if Aero gave him the go ahead I'll have to give them the benifit of my doubt!
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Thanks for the advice 10of13, but I already learned my lesson a few years back during the fall of tech. I trade with money I am willing to lose in Vegas. Never put all your apples in one basket. I must say though this is one of the best positions I have seen in a penny stock. An actual product that people will buy. I am taking the long way home on this one. Patience is a virtue
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quote:Originally posted by dog: Don't know for sure... or the significance. Has yet to be verified.
Boy if this one turns out to be a scam, I don't think there will be enough rope in the world for the pumping Ibubber's to hang themselves, lol. Well Good Luck here, I've chosen not to take a position.
Something doesn't smell right to me, but that's only my worthless opinion. See ya round fellas.
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