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So investors are causing direct damage to the SLJB reputation, according to the new CEO. That is just terrible. What is the root cause? Is it these boards? Is it the internet and broader access to news PR's in general?
There are important questions to be asked. How have other businesses dealt with such things? Certainly, SLJB is not the only company to have been swamped by phonecalls from eager investors.
SLJB needs to look at how other successful businesses have dealth with these investors and how other businesses have successfully planned with their constituents regarding investor relations.
I'm disappointed by the fact that SLJB has had to respond to something like this instead of having been prepared. When you make such claims that your business will provide some of the biggest returns in the market then you should be prepared for the millions of investors that will inquire as to how your business plans to make that possible.
In supervision you don't take your subordinates word for everything. Of course, there must be a degree of trust. However, when you want to see how your subordinate is performing it is imperative that you seek the input from those working with your subordinate as well as any customers your subordinate may have serviced.
It's common sense.
Eagerly anticipating audited fins so that everyone will just ess tee eff yeww for a while...
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well put Grande, Marquee is getting paid as we speak to be the main link to us as investor relations and you would think the brothers would be chewing their azz instead of complaining to investors. The site should have been put together and reviewed before put on line. That's old news.... but, still not corrected. Would it be my job to call them and tell them how they should do business? Yeah right. But the clock is ticking and to move to another board they will need to turn it in the right direction.
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I read the CEO statement. Obviously none of the individuals that called the client are in business. It is an absolute pejorative to call any individual trying to do business with our client. I just have to say to anyone who called, "idiot". Go to business school. You will find out that you don't harass future clients. DD is one thing, but your inane, insipid phone calls to clients are another. You just cost the company revenue. And then you are all posting, " I wonder why he would ban us from calling"? With your RED FLAG comments. Good god, you people need to learn a little respect. Please, I'm not trying to be rude, but when you directly effect a company I'm in, with your obvious beginner strategies, I need to say something. Get lives, and stop calling people thinking your doing good DD. Know when to draw lines. Good day to you all.
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quote:Originally posted by invester: I read the CEO statement. Obviously none of the individuals that called the client are in business. It is an absolute pejorative to call any individual trying to do business with our client. I just have to say to anyone who called, "idiot". Go to business school. You will find out that you don't harass future clients. DD is one thing, but your inane, insipid phone calls to clients are another. You just cost the company revenue. And then you are all posting, " I wonder why he would ban us from calling"? With your RED FLAG comments. Good god, you people need to learn a little respect. Please, I'm not trying to be rude, but when you directly effect a company I'm in, with your obvious beginner strategies, I need to say something. Get lives, and stop calling people thinking your doing good DD. Know when to draw lines. Good day to you all.
Invester I was going to PM you but this is for everyone to hear.
I was one of the callers. Not ashamed in the least!!!!
There is a way to call a client cordially to verify contracts w/o being harassing.
What I found out was that SLJB had not inked a contract period.
They were still curious to verify if Sulja could deliver the specified amount of concrete. Hence not even close to contract.
Furthermore when I called late the following day after the P.R. Hazeem at Ramada stated he had only received 2 calls.
SOOO... was it 280 calls that was stated by our new CEO.... I Don't beleive it.
Its either not Ramada or some one was fibbing.
Now I have written a letter to Peter Vucicevick to explain exactly what transpired. I told him I called.
I did this to develop a business relationship.
Invester I own 920k shares and I have a right to protect my capital. Actually I am protecting yours as well.
Now when you say "please I am not trying to be rude" but call us "IDIOTS" for protecting your capital......... Hmmmm.... makes me chuckle
Business school.. come on you can do better than that....
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Just to add I am still looking forward to the future of SLJB. Can't wait to hear from Peter too. I think hiring him will do wonders for this company as I feel Steve had the mentality of the son.. Not the CEO
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quote:Originally posted by invester: I read the CEO statement. Obviously none of the individuals that called the client are in business. It is an absolute pejorative to call any individual trying to do business with our client. I just have to say to anyone who called, "idiot". Go to business school. You will find out that you don't harass future clients. DD is one thing, but your inane, insipid phone calls to clients are another. You just cost the company revenue. And then you are all posting, " I wonder why he would ban us from calling"? With your RED FLAG comments. Good god, you people need to learn a little respect. Please, I'm not trying to be rude, but when you directly effect a company I'm in, with your obvious beginner strategies, I need to say something. Get lives, and stop calling people thinking your doing good DD. Know when to draw lines. Good day to you all.
Invester I was going to PM you but this is for everyone to hear.
I was one of the callers. Not ashamed in the least!!!!
There is a way to call a client cordially to verify contracts w/o being harassing.
What I found out was that SLJB had not inked a contract period.
They were still curious to verify if Sulja could deliver the specified amount of concrete. Hence not even close to contract.
Furthermore when I called Hazeem at Ramada stated he had only received 2 calls.
SOOO... was it 280 calls that was stated by our new CEO.... I Don't beleive it.
Its either not Ramada or some one was fibbing.
Now I have written a letter to Peter Vucicevick to explain exactly what transpired. I told him I called.
I did this to develop a business relationship.
Invester I own 920k shares and I have a right to protect my capital. Actually I am protecting yours as well.
Now when you say "please I am not trying to be rude" but call us "IDIOTS" for protecting your capital......... Hmmmm.... makes me chuckle
Business school.. come on you can do better than that....
CEO Steve Sulja stated: "The State of Nevada has received the assets. The balance sheet has been sent to our auditor and we expect to have the audited financials completed in mid-September. We are pleased to update our shareholders of the asset and audit progress. KPMG and Price Waterhouse Coopers will complete the audit and the assets are contained in the upcoming audited financials. Our shareholders have requested an update through Marquee Asset Management and we are listening to the concerns. We continue to gain new work and have some exciting updates to be released."
-------------------- *I'm not a financial expert or advisor, everything stated is my opinion*
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Go back on this board and you will see that myself and 'a surfer' both talked to Hazem, and just a few minutes after I posted my discussion on this board there was a post on IHUB from someone there who also talked to Hazem. I will vouch for 'a surfer' that there was only 3 callers who actually talked to Hazem per what he said to us.
And we are all extreemly pro SLJB.
P.S. There could be a difference between how many people called and how many actually talked to him, but you can see in my account of my discussion with Hazem, that he had returned my call when I talked to him.
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I also understand and support Petar V's taking us investers out to the shed to give us a whippin, now that I think about it, how would I feel about a lot of people calling my client. Sorry Petar.
Posted by: bliz82 In reply to: None Date:9/6/2006 11:53:36 AM Post #of 68534
Talked to Ramada General Contracting last night and they are dealing with SLJB. The gentleman I spoke with Hazen (spelling?) is a manager and he knew and had been dealing with Petar and someone called Iman (or maybe it was Ahmed the Wessal president, not sure). But this is real. It sounds like the contract is bank to bank now and just waiting for a call back from Marquee to get a few more questions answered. I'll try and give the board and update this evening. Patience has and will continue to payoff imo. GLTA longs!
quote:Originally posted by mo-rydr: The 3rd caller on IHUB
Posted by: bliz82 In reply to: None Date:9/6/2006 11:53:36 AM Post #of 68534
Talked to Ramada General Contracting last night and they are dealing with SLJB. The gentleman I spoke with Hazen (spelling?) is a manager and he knew and had been dealing with Petar and someone called Iman (or maybe it was Ahmed the Wessal president, not sure). But this is real. It sounds like the contract is bank to bank now and just waiting for a call back from Marquee to get a few more questions answered. I'll try and give the board and update this evening. Patience has and will continue to payoff imo. GLTA longs!
I am not calling bikerider99 a basher cause I don't know him or his posting history, but your ethnic cleansing has gotten out of hand and is not healthy.
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quote:Originally posted by invester: I read the CEO statement. Obviously none of the individuals that called the client are in business. It is an absolute pejorative to call any individual trying to do business with our client. I just have to say to anyone who called, "idiot". Go to business school. You will find out that you don't harass future clients. DD is one thing, but your inane, insipid phone calls to clients are another. You just cost the company revenue. And then you are all posting, " I wonder why he would ban us from calling"? With your RED FLAG comments. Good god, you people need to learn a little respect. Please, I'm not trying to be rude, but when you directly effect a company I'm in, with your obvious beginner strategies, I need to say something. Get lives, and stop calling people thinking your doing good DD. Know when to draw lines. Good day to you all.
CEO Steve Sulja stated: "The cement contract has been finalized, and the contract is officially closed." Once the "company" claims to put out contracts saying it is a done deal revealing who they are doing business with they are fair game. Would someone normally question a contract (yes but)? Being able to legitimize whom they are doing business with in the first place is a major step forward. Are the callers talking to the right person? Can that person be verified to be CEO or executive level staff? IMO it is Sulja's business practice thus far that is leading to these phone calls. It's a pink trading stock for a reason - they aren't there yet. If they are 100% and just need to dot a few i's and cross a few t's then in the next few weeks we should see some major improvements. IMO it is up to them to prove themselves, not us as investors to tell them how to run their business. You want to build confidence with me then you need to show you can be transparent and handle the show. I sure wouldn't let the daughter run the car solo without knowing she knew what she was doing first. A sigh of relief - or a run for the hills. As asurfer said. "The future never lies".
From IHUB Board Posted by: EyesWideOpen In reply to: sandbath who wrote msg# 66758 Date:9/7/2006 7:24:15 PM Post #of 68125
Folks, I spoke to Petar yesterday. Well, I called and he answered. The number given was to Kore. Josh taylor this morning said the cement contract was lost, and posters bashed him. So, yes, Petar told me the contract was lost. He was livid at the number of calls Ramada received. He said they are a friend, and he was hoping to get the contract back. He said if he did not, "I'll just get another contract".
So much for trusting those pr's. These people just can't get it together can they. Releasing that pr was just as premature as the recent one with the announcement of one new CEO then, another the next day.
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quote:Originally posted by invester: I read the CEO statement. Obviously none of the individuals that called the client are in business. It is an absolute pejorative to call any individual trying to do business with our client. I just have to say to anyone who called, "idiot". Go to business school. You will find out that you don't harass future clients. DD is one thing, but your inane, insipid phone calls to clients are another. You just cost the company revenue. And then you are all posting, " I wonder why he would ban us from calling"? With your RED FLAG comments. Good god, you people need to learn a little respect. Please, I'm not trying to be rude, but when you directly effect a company I'm in, with your obvious beginner strategies, I need to say something. Get lives, and stop calling people thinking your doing good DD. Know when to draw lines. Good day to you all.
Invester I was going to PM you but this is for everyone to hear.
I was one of the callers. Not ashamed in the least!!!!
There is a way to call a client cordially to verify contracts w/o being harassing.
What I found out was that SLJB had not inked a contract period.
They were still curious to verify if Sulja could deliver the specified amount of concrete. Hence not even close to contract.
Furthermore when I called late the following day after the P.R. Hazeem at Ramada stated he had only received 2 calls.
SOOO... was it 280 calls that was stated by our new CEO.... I Don't beleive it.
Its either not Ramada or some one was fibbing.
Now I have written a letter to Peter Vucicevick to explain exactly what transpired. I told him I called.
I did this to develop a business relationship.
Invester I own 920k shares and I have a right to protect my capital. Actually I am protecting yours as well.
Now when you say "please I am not trying to be rude" but call us "IDIOTS" for protecting your capital......... Hmmmm.... makes me chuckle
Business school.. come on you can do better than that....
good day to you too... Mike
Nice post a surfer.
BTW- to blame the investors for losing a contract is nothing short of lame & assinine. This is nothing but a smoke screen with a poor excuse.
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sljb kept us informed of everything, I think trying to make this one big happy family, yes completely premature, but most of all the people on I-HUB complain and whine if the company does not release a pr, but when one is released, no one over there believes the pr and they make a ton of calls, as if trying to get inside info. man, Let this company do there job .... if you dont beleive in this company, then get out... simple...
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If more people called these companies in penny land, or called their affiliates, there would be ALOT less pumping and ALOT less money lost. Nicely done Surfer.
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A Surfer, protecting capitol is one thing, harassment is another. I always speak to management of any company I put a dollar in. There are particular lines that one shouldn’t cross though.
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quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: It doesn't add up. Successful companies do not Press Release contracts before they are truly finalized.
You've got that completely right stocktrader- Successful companies do not Press Release contracts before they are truly finalized.
So, you have to wonder,...thus, all my questions that I raise. Maybe some will see why now.
Did Peter say they would post some news about this or will it be left to he said she said speculation?
Well Boo,...my guess is that Petar will have to pr the news if it is accurate at some point. Unless, he's counting on the stockholders to spread the word which is ridiculous. (Good thing for those phone calls).
Speaking of phone calling, if that stockholder didn't call, we wouldn't have known about this latest fiasco. They can't be feeling too good at this point having to retract yet another statement made in a pr immediately after having to announce the musical chair change of CEO's.
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quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: It doesn't add up. Successful companies do not Press Release contracts before they are truly finalized.
You've got that completely right stocktrader- Successful companies do not Press Release contracts before they are truly finalized.
So, you have to wonder,...thus, all my questions that I raise. Maybe some will see why now.
Did Peter say they would post some news about this or will it be left to he said she said speculation?
Well Boo,...my guess is that Petar will have to pr the news if it is accurate at some point. Unless, he's counting on the stockholders to spread the word which is ridiculous. (Good thing for those phone calls).
Speaking of phone calling, if that stockholder didn't call, we wouldn't have known about this latest fiasco. They can't be feeling too good at this point having to retract yet another statement made in a pr immediately after having to announce the musical chair change of CEO's.
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: It doesn't add up. Successful companies do not Press Release contracts before they are truly finalized.
You've got that completely right stocktrader- Successful companies do not Press Release contracts before they are truly finalized.
So, you have to wonder,...thus, all my questions that I raise. Maybe some will see why now.
Did Peter say they would post some news about this or will it be left to he said she said speculation?
Well Boo,...my guess is that Petar will have to pr the news if it is accurate at some point. Unless, he's counting on the stockholders to spread the word which is ridiculous. (Good thing for those phone calls).
Speaking of phone calling, if that stockholder didn't call, we wouldn't have known about this latest fiasco. They can't be feeling too good at this point having to retract yet another statement made in a pr immediately after having to announce the musical chair change of CEO's.
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This is where the line is investor.... right here in pink sheets Vs. poster posting speculation. There is no question I could ask to a CEO of any company that would cause them to cancel a contract. I would hope they would do their own DD before entering into an agreement eh? As far as canceling this cement contract, I'll believe it when I see the PR or the posting on their web site before I believe any (well, not any...but most) poster here or on any other forum. I also do believe in verifying the speculation (be a fool not to) which was put out over a weekend to make it more difficult to verify adding to speculation.
-------------------- All post are my opinion. Do your own DD. Who's clicking your buy/sell button!?
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Who really knows at this point, if you read above a few posts, according to another investor that called it is. Who can really tell, it has not been verified. I do not know that poster personally so I can not speak for their honesty and accuracy of their post.
Hopefully, the company will address this matter this week, with yet another pr saying "WHOOPS!, a little premature!"
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Wit, thanks for the feedback. I think the next few weeks should answer a lot of questions. Hopefully we'll all make some green then move on to the next great pick. If not, we'll keep looking!
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