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Could be true.. but does that mean there is no merger or viable and successful business to result from this? They stand to make more money if it's a successful company.. do they not? I know that they are executing this deal because they think they will get paid well.... question is: are they letting us in on the deal, or are we the deal?
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Yea, the million dollar question huh........
Im not even sure being IN on the deal would be great at this point. Im just gonne deny existence of a deal for tonight
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Like I put it to my friend who has $35k in on this... only put in money to chance in this investment the amount that you are willing to drop in a bowl and take a match to... With the current DD I feel its worth the risk. It's an all or nothing proposition... Fronthaul is an empty, worthless shell. If that's all we are left with, our stock will be worth nothing in less than 30 seconds, as no one will be buying it, no matter what the price.
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Your friend would drop $35k in a bowl and take a match to it?
Anyway, i agree...im in all or nothing still. And i follow what you were saying above, in the end we really could be IN on the deal. If he did do what Kapone is speculating and its not totally illegal it could be possible he is doing it to fund the company. I mean, he has already been involved in 2 company "flops" we could call them, maybe he is trying REAL hard this time. I especially like the part about him saying that FHAL was the right company, right stock right time. A shell with PIPEs available to the first bidder that he can dilute into the pool before merger time. This has my mind warped.
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quote:Originally posted by dog: Man . . . iHub is brutal... makes you think you should stay away from stocks for good.
Yea, its not a friendly place. Not much value added commentary for sure. And, you have to sift through about 50 before you come across a good point.
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Look, you're in this stock for the hard information presented so far. If you want to imagine things, then you could probably come up with many more scenarios.
The ihub poster said it was only their theory. Shorty apparantly wasn't even a consideration in that post. I'm staying long and strong!
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Look, you're in this stock for the hard information presented so far. If you want to imagine things, then you could probably come up with many more scenarios.
The ihub poster said it was only their theory. Shorty apparantly wasn't even a consideration in that post. I'm staying long and strong!
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I'm not saying he would... likely he'll pare down the shares he is holding. Just trying to point out that a dollar in your pocket is worth more to you than a dollar in someone else's pocket.
Just have to understand the risk... if, as people are saying, this will change their lives, they either:
1) Got in early - many shares, low monetary risk 2) Got in several times and flipped - many shares and playing with found money. 3) Got in way over their heads.... and this will definitely change their lives.
I'm 36 ... it would take an awful lot of money to change my life. I have many years of bills and life experience to pay for yet. A million dollars doesn't go as far as one would think (taxes, life, illness, etc.) The key is to be smart with the money one makes... I'm sure I could put this potential windfall to good use, and hopefully turn it into more.... but I'm still going to have to work and hustle every day.
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Hey AZ... there's always the Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda ... and propaganda abounds... I'm just going to sit back and pay attention, maybe I can learn something for the next big stock... although this one is breakin all the rules and patterns.
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Oh, im not looking at a million dollars or anything, im sitting there in 1) depending on what "many shares" means
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Its just another mans perspective.. and thank God we all have one. Just a case of the "uuhh you no what I think". Where is Buds update Tonight!!!He knows all
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quote:Originally posted by cool AZ: Look, you're in this stock for the hard information presented so far. If you want to imagine things, then you could probably come up with many more scenarios.
The ihub poster said it was only their theory. Shorty apparantly wasn't even a consideration in that post. I'm staying long and strong!
Well, actually i considered shorty in on this as well. Its a perfect explaination for the odd number in float. Heck, Rufus himself is shouting at shorty because hes a target we created while we were "imagining things".
Dont get me wrong, im here to see this through. But, that doesnt mean im just going to ignore possibilities that come along. Im not sure ignoring specualtion completely is the best way to play this game, but hey im new at this.
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quote:Originally posted by a surfer: Its just another mans perspective.. and thank God we all have one. Just a case of the "uuhh you no what I think". Where is Buds update Tonight!!!He knows all
Bud kinda lost some credibility last night i believe.
Anyway, im only discussing this theory here because its impossible to someplace else (Ihub for example). I agree with dog, im here learning some crazy stuff and if i attempt a close minded approach i wont learn a thing.
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glassman or tex (or both), can you comment on the PIPEs statement from ihub posted above?
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quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: why would the TA say the float was around 23 million if there was dillution going on. Wouldn't the float increase?
Ryan, i believe the TA questions are what keeps this theory on the backburner. Ive heard a lot of different results from the TA though. Did you or someone you know personally call the TA? That would be helpful
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F*** IT. Let it ride. People miss opportunities in life because they get scared at the last second. AZ is right. We are here at this point in time due to the hard DD (as hard as we can get from what is given to us).
I plan to fail as many times in this life as I can. Learn from each experience, then move on... Never look back...
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If you ask me the pipes are a moot issue. They would have come out as freely tradeable shares anyhow as the 8k released all restrictions on fhal share holders. All meaning pipes as well.
The conspiracy theory (per kapone on HSM) is that Rufus bought all of them out before announcing the merger and has sold into the run up to the merger to make a ton of money for himself or cvsu. Whether it is plausible or not or legal to do or not I do not know.
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That away Cat! Makes this experience much more enjoyable.... I think the frustration here led to last nights debauchery... Same stock... one more day, maybe more
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: Its just another mans perspective.. and thank God we all have one. Just a case of the "uuhh you no what I think". Where is Buds update Tonight!!!He knows all
Bud kinda lost some credibility last night i believe.
Anyway, im only discussing this theory here because its impossible to someplace else (Ihub for example). I agree with dog, im here learning some crazy stuff and if i attempt a close minded approach i wont learn a thing.
Bud lost ALL credibility last night, and amazingly he's nowhere to be found tonight ! lol, I'm in this with 5K shares, and I would love to see that $15. But C'mon guys, use your brains, there has been way too much nonsense being thrown around not only by the bashers, but also by the pumpers - and 'Rufus' himself. Why do I hold ? At this point pure and absolute entertainment. Reading Ihub and here has become downright comical!
I did sell 5k shares for a small profit, but I figure I'll hold these for fun. I really feel sorry for people who invested a lot of money above $1, although who knows they may hit big !
I think next week will start a whole new round of excuses...
Tomorrow we will probably see a sell off to .75, people's patience with this is getting very thin.
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Catia, negative items are not always bad in a place like this where people know how to discuss them. It's pretty clear you are not a basher and brought it up for discussion. TY and GLTY
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quote:Originally posted by dog: That away Cat! Makes this experience much more enjoyable.... I think the frustration here led to last nights debauchery... Same stock... one more day, maybe more
debauchery? I got drunk and enjoyed it! No need to label it.
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quote:Originally posted by sceptor: If you ask me the pipes are a moot issue. They would have come out as freely tradeable shares anyhow as the 8k released all restrictions on fhal share holders. All meaning pipes as well.
The conspiracy theory (per kapone on HSM) is that Rufus bought all of them out before announcing the merger and has sold into the run up to the merger to make a ton of money for himself or cvsu. Whether it is plausible or not or legal to do or not I do not know.
If that's true then the man is a criminal mastermind aka Lex Luthor... But karma is a ***** and if you have ripped off that many people I don't care how much money you have, it will come back at you. Just look at how much fun Ken Lay is having with all the money he made.
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smelly I am curious did you buy the 5k for the entertainment value or is that just a way to offically disengage yourself from being "a believer" in case it tanks? Kind of sounds like it, but i dont really care.
The worst case scenario is that all the extra 96 million adds to the total for some ~250 million true outstanding after the merger. With that in mind if what they say is true about aiss and the lottery then the price should be able to support the price somewhere higher than it is now. If aiss is a scam, and it's hard to see that from the board members, then it wont support a price higher than it is.
As usual this is simply nothing more than a roll of the dice.
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quote:Originally posted by sceptor: smelly I am curious did you buy the 5k for the entertainment value or is that just a way to offically disengage yourself from being "a believer" in case it tanks? Kind of sounds like it, but i dont really care.
The worst case scenario is that all the extra 96 million adds to the total for some ~250 million true outstanding after the merger. With that in mind if what they say is true about aiss and the lottery then the price should be able to support the price somewhere higher than it is now. If aiss is a scam, and it's hard to see that from the board members, then it wont support a price higher than it is.
As usual this is simply nothing more than a roll of the dice.
I bought for these reasons...if it tanks I only lose a few grand...big deal. If it hits I make 60K, bigger deal ! But this has been a heck of an entertaining ride you have to admit !
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I don't believe this is a scam, I just have my doubts as to whether or not it can be successfully pulled off as stated by Rufus.
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Last night was definately a nice release. I was well overdue.
Im actually part of a 4 guy group, initially tallying in around 35000 shares....average pps around .10
I actually kinda got the other 3 hyped about fhal during the amazon log deal discussions. I guess i can consider myself very lucky because (i believe) all 4 of us have sold a SMALL chunk of our shares...covering inital investments or more. Im guessing, as a group, we are still around 30k shares. I cant speak for the other guys but personally ive already benefited from this win or lose. If its win though, there is going to be one heck of a party.
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I dont think it's a scam but I do have issues with the delay as everyone has. the past few days it has benn technical difficulties in getting the ticker and cusip, before that it was s&p that was the problem.
valid problems to be sure, but still a way to afford time, if Rufus really is related to rex luther. Still it doesnt really matter because the pipes would have been put into the 10k watering down the float regardless of where the money has gone to. They have always been there.
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Kapone is one of the investors that dumped everything during the m n 1 interview. Openly stated he made off with 180K in Paltalk right after. I think he has realized he has till Friday to get back in and is trying to get this thing to drop so he can get a better price. How better to accomplish this than to scare everyone out of their shares in the eleventh hour.