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Posted by kt325ci on :
 
The Fronthaul Group Signs Its First Letter of Intent to Provide 3rd Party Logistics for a Major Contract
Jun 14, 2006 6:30:00 AM
ROCKWALL, TX -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 06/14/06 -- The Fronthaul Group. (OTCBB: FHAL) announces it has signed an LOI to provide third party logistics for the Climate Exchange of the Americas, Inc.

The Climate Exchange of the Americas, Inc. (CEOTA) has entered into a Letter of Intent with The Fronthaul Group, Inc. for management and third party logistics over their exclusive Brazilian license to recover sunken logs from the Amazon River and its tributaries. "The Fronthaul Group's specific area of responsibility could yield a potential of $1,500,000,000 in gross revenue. Conservative estimates project 2.6 billion board feet of easily recoverable first grade hardwood lumber under our initial phase of this contract," says Gordon Brown, Director of CEOTA, a non-profit organization dedicated to the preservation of the rainforest.

The Fronthaul Group will arrange the complete third party logistics life cycle including but not limited to; arranging log retrieval and milling operations and developing export markets for the environmentally safe wood products.

"We are excited by the long term opportunity and challenges laid before us with this contract. We have the opportunity to make a positive impact for our environment by making rainforest timber available without harming a single living tree and all the while increasing our bottom line and shareholder value," says Mike Alexander, President and CEO of The Fronthaul Group, Inc.

About The Fronthaul Group:

The Fronthaul Group is a Delaware corporation with branch offices in Rockwall, TX. The Fronthaul Group expects to grow their business specifically in the areas of 3rd party logistics, Transportation Brokerage, and Motor Carrier services. The Fronthaul Group is the only referral-based marketing transportation logistics brokerage and currently has over 4000 members.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

The statements contained herein which are not historical are forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause the actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements, including, but not limited to, certain delays beyond the company's control with respect to market acceptance of new technologies or products, delays in testing and evaluation of products, and other risks detailed from time to time in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Contact:
The Fronthaul Group
2233 Ridge Road Suite 102
Rockwall, TX 75087
888-293-4285
Email Contact

CEOTA
Fort Worth, Texas
817-886-2311
Email Contact
 
Posted by Stockman13 on :
 
up 70% already
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
up 115% now
 
Posted by Stockman13 on :
 
damn i didnt think it would continue running...kickin myself
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
up 134 procent! this is going to be 600 to 800 percent today, great news!!!
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
up 134%

I picked up shares at .06, .07, and .09. Very hard to get filled.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
140 percent and ask get hits all the time....
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
I got in up 130 %....this one could go huge today..buys are flying in
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
The sad thing is, I have had this thing on radar for a week and a half and I didn't get in it because I thought it was going to go a little lower.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
little shake, time to load up more...Same pattern as CRDM a few weeks ago
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
OS 62,489,721 shares of common stock as of May 1, 2006

[Smile]
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
This will hit 300% today....
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i expect it will hit 20 cents today
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
First we got to break through the .113
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
I tell you this thing could explode. Any pullback and I am in. Look at level 2 ask.
Very thin.
Nice call here KT.
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
Key is to break through .12.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
but what do these guys do exactly?
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
I think that .12 break could be coming soon. I got a few more at .114
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
Yeah if this pulls back to .09 ...I'm in
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Ok, I'm in
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
here comes .12
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
and we are through .12
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
.129 mhmh could be huge play today...
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JOELGA:
Yeah if this pulls back to .09 ...I'm in

But that doesn't look like that's gonna happen. Good luck guys!!!
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
TIMe TO GAP I think more than 10 bagger today EASY.

With this kind of Pending news.

I had a order for 0.116 for $10,000 but I ONLY to about 80% of it filled.
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
Yep. I'm gonna have to sit this one out. Dangit.
Good luck all. Will watch for lunch pullback but not holding my breath. Gotta see under .10 before jumping in.
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
Ohh for your information guys nobodie's pumping this anywhere I could find.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
WE just broke our previous high vol.

I say we reach anywher between 15 to 20 cents if not more today.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Looking to jump in on a small dip. Think I'll shoot for .115. If not, I'll just wish you guys the best on it.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
yep this is a pure play on REAL news and it's been sitting at rock bottom.

50dma .109
200dma .166
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
Might dip below .12 soon
 
Posted by Stockman13 on :
 
its being pumped by otcreporter
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
Here comes the dip. With nothing else hot right now this has the possibility to see an incredible high today.

How hi? who knows
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
A little shake than burst up again

Wath this run anywhere between 400% to 1000%.

Low float and Alsome news.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Take a look at what happened on Dec of 2005.

One year chart. SAMe THING.
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
Again back to .12 resistence.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I was just able to get in at .115 [Smile]
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tonicma:
A little shake than burst up again

Wath this run anywhere between 400% to 1000%.

Low float and Alsome news.

LMAO, Tonic I always get a laugh outta you. You don't aim for the moon, you aim for the next damn universe.

400% to 1000%???? But hey you could be right, nothing else is hot right now
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
There we to, now we go up.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Well Hustla just looking at the VOL comparison from Dec of 2005.

also, look at where we at right now. 10:30 and still strong. Strong vol too.

Low float + great news = crazy % gains
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
Watching the Level 2's and approaching .13
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I missed out on this one. Cash is all tied up [Frown]

Good luck boys, may be the only big runner today.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Too much volume.


BOOM baby BOOM
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
0.14
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
I think we go 20 cents first than shake than go to 40 cents.
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
Wow.. This will be huge!!!
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
My level 2 ask is stuck at .12.
Can anybody tell me what it is now?
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
I just noticed the run it had in December. WOW...today looks like the start of a similar run.
 
Posted by wadeinni on :
 
Could Tonicma be right??? a possible 400%. That would be F'ing unreal.

Maybe a run like GZFX last year 1000% in a few hours
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Just TOO MUCH VOLUME.
ANOTHER CRDM In the MAKING

But that news is crazy I tell you.
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
400% is a very real possibility today
 
Posted by wadeinni on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kt325ci:
I just noticed the run it had in December. WOW...today looks like the start of a similar run.

missed that, what did it run to???
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
I finally got in at .145. Hope it's not too late.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by djg7:
I finally got in at .145. Hope it's not too late.

wow.. i was thinking about jumping in.. but since it's so high already, i'll watch a bit more..
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Just keep on trucking baby. Gotta love this one.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
Went from .06 to .20 on day 1 then hit a high of .34 in a couple weeks.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I'm in. Just can't hold off with the news! This puppy has a lot longer to go!
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
The MM's ain't holding this bad boy back. It's payday for them today. LOL

They didn't fill my order, so I'll just sit back in mental pain and see how hi this will go. This is a huge rush after the deadass days we've been having in the market
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
Ask 0.15
Bid 0.147
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
The BIG difference between last Dec 2005 and today is that the Volume has pretty much doubled.

So based on that alone I say we hit 40 cents if not more.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
Price 0.151
Bid 0.155
Ask 0.151
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
She B on cruise control now!
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Now we shake.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
Where do you see this going today??
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Resistence isat 0.15 to 0.155 ish. once break than we heading to 20 cents.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Here come the SHAKE.
 
Posted by juice on :
 
got in at .135
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
looks to be getting ready to run again..
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hopefully we can break resistance now
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
pretty big shake, just to scare off the flippers
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
MM's shaking right now.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
hope so..
 
Posted by aleem on :
 
i am new to trading...do you think this stock will move slowly up after today attempting to reach near its 52w high...or will it take another pr to take it there?
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
Well it worked, some sells went through. Sent the flippers running off with whatever little they made
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
yea it worked, and the mms just bought cheap shares at .125, now the bid is back up to .135
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
another shake here? or is it out of air?
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
.12x.139

I'll get in if I can get it at .11 or lower
 
Posted by Stockman13 on :
 
the same people pumping this pumped CRDM so hopefully this does go to atleats 400%. im kicking myself for not getting in when it was up 70%. good luck and congrats to anyone who got in on this earlier today.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
The spread is pretty big if you ask me.
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by scfraser1:
another shake here? or is it out of air?

It's not over yet. The MM's will go for another run before lunch then it will die down. They know what they're doing.

Looking for cheap shares, then up the PPS some more. This will gap tomorrow. News like this is huge.
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
Bid support at .11.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
hoping for more of a dip here to add more.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Only 1 MM at 0.12, 0.13,0.14.

Probably want to shake.
 
Posted by wadeinni on :
 
She's ready to go again. The last dip just stopped
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
I'm trying for more at .121. Got a 5K partial so far.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hoping this is only a shake
 
Posted by juice on :
 
im feelin an afternoon rally this is holding up nicely... I'd say we see a new HOD later this afternoon after lunch and a rally to close the day...
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
OK I'm in at .117. Let's hope I didn't kill it.
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
Amswap,

I know the feeling, if I were more paranoid I would say that there are little men following me around looking at what I'm trading so that they can immediately go opposite of what I'm doing in order to frustrate me....


"I live in my own little world, but it's ok, they know me here"
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
I agree with Juice although I have not jumped in yet. This has not had a big pullback.
L2 now shows bid support at .10.
Lack of a huge pullback means this should still have legs. I will be looking to get in when buying volume picks up.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I hate lunch time
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I hate lunch time

Fat people like it...
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MHampton:
Amswap,

I know the feeling, if I were more paranoid I would say that there are little men following me around looking at what I'm trading so that they can immediately go opposite of what I'm doing in order to frustrate me....

Yep, they're following me. I'm happy with 30 - 50% on any trade, but it seems when I sell, that's the one that closes up 300%.
I have to take it a little at a time.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
NITE trying to keep it down..
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
Picked up 10k at .119, we can run now! $1.5 billion out of a penny stock, thems good numbers there.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I would think those numbers we'd be right at tonmica guess of 1000% wouldn't that be nice
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
hopefully we run after lunch..
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
buys coming in..
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Wait until 1 or 2pm ish, rigt now still lunch.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I was just going to say the same thing Tonicma
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bobcat88:
Picked up 10k at .119, we can run now! $1.5 billion out of a penny stock, thems good numbers there.

That's what scares me...when's the last time a penny produced revenues if $1.5 billion? Don't forget PGPM a few weeks ago...
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Hit is the person now shaking to accumulate.

The next pps on ask is 0.13 after NITe.
 
Posted by marinecorps3046 on :
 
im on now lets push it higher!
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
BID and ASK spreak now closed. Lets see what this afternoon will bring. I say break HOD and run eod to 20 or 40 cents. If 20 tomorrow we gap up and run to 40
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
wow, .20 and .40 .. that's pretty high.. i'd be happy with .15
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'd love to see that ton. Let's hope
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
the news was too good, it has to run back up..
 
Posted by juice on :
 
yeah itll move, the 2:30 BOOM
 
Posted by knicks321 on :
 
im a little cautious here, but there is nothing else running....just bought some at .114
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
Juice-
IPMG- wang bottom play
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
got some buys coming in
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
REsistence is at 0.13, if we break that than we can go up nicely.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
looks like lunch is over.. time to move
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
alright betting time what's everyone guess i'll say high teens if we get through resistance. I hope I'm very wrong to the low side
 
Posted by marinecorps3046 on :
 
.1249 now 165%
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
here we go, let's knock them 13's down!!
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
HEre we GO,

HUGe VOLUME comoing up
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
INSANE VOLUME

Next resistence .14
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
one to go to get to .14
 
Posted by marinecorps3046 on :
 
.139!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
ask at .14
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
I wonder if we can do 100 million today. that would be HUGE

Man HUGE resistence at .14, lets break it.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
do you mean 10 million?
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
yeah 10 mill
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
tighten that bid!
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
CAn we break it this time round
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I hope so. If that happens we might be on the 2nd half of the wild ride
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Common lets break it for hod close and gap up.
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
come on, break 14 and run this time!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
one left at 14
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
MM all moved to .15
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
1x14.5 then onto 15
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
resistence is at .15 now. have to break that to move up nicely and create new hod
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i feel this is going to make an end of the day run and will gap up tomorrow
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
what is the float on this?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
wow, look at the huge buys
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Common baby, lets do it to it.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
what's with these other companies that are running with late news.. CCDX and ATTG..
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Give it another 30 minute or so before next leg up that is what I am thinking.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
indeed last half hour will be very interesting
 
Posted by marinecorps3046 on :
 
kt325 dude what kind of news filters do you use?
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Shake befreo eod. after .128, its right to .14
 
Posted by Mysticobra96 on :
 
Does it seem like NITE is holding it up? No one else wanting to pay over .11 but him.
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
Gonna buy tomorrow when it falls back to almost where it started today.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mysticobra96:
Does it seem like NITE is holding it up? No one else wanting to pay over .11 but him.

Wait until later once buying pressure steps in. The mm's will be tripping over themselves.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
..
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
check the bidside now
1x.133
1x.132
1x.13
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
looks like resistance at .14 again.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Shaking now. .116 x .12
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
made first entry here at 0.12, EOD run?
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
.12 looks like strong support. Now if it can just break through .14 soon
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Real resistence is .14. Soime volume and we will be there.

We probably hit 10 million today .
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
bellwetherreport.com: Issues Alerts for The Fronthaul Group (FHAL.OB)

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 14, 2006 11:44 AM

Jun 14, 2006 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Bankteller (OTC:BTLI) shares trading on over 10 times the average volume, the company announced yesterday the following corporate developments:

The Fronthaul Group:

The Fronthaul Group. (OTC BB:FHAL.OB - News) announces it has signed an LOI to provide third party logistics for the Climate Exchange of the Americas, Inc.

The Climate Exchange of the Americas, Inc. (CEOTA) has entered into a Letter of Intent with The Fronthaul Group, Inc. for management and third party logistics over their exclusive Brazilian license to recover sunken logs from the Amazon River and its tributaries. "The Fronthaul Group's specific area of responsibility could yield a potential of $1,500,000,000 in gross revenue. Conservative estimates project 2.6 billion board feet of easily recoverable first grade hardwood lumber under our initial phase of this contract," says Gordon Brown, Director of CEOTA, a non-profit organization dedicated to the preservation of the rainforest.

The Fronthaul Group will arrange the complete third party logistics life cycle including but not limited to; arranging log retrieval and milling operations and developing export markets for the environmentally safe wood products.

"We are excited by the long term opportunity and challenges laid before us with this contract. We have the opportunity to make a positive impact for our environment by making rainforest timber available without harming a single living tree and all the while increasing our bottom line and shareholder value," says Mike Alexander, President and CEO of The Fronthaul Group, Inc.

About The Fronthaul Group:

The Fronthaul Group is a Delaware corporation with branch offices in Rockwall, TX. The Fronthaul Group expects to grow their business specifically in the areas of 3rd party logistics, Transportation Brokerage, and Motor Carrier services. The Fronthaul Group is the only referral-based marketing transportation logistics brokerage and currently has over 4000 members.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
Emerging Stock Report: Getting it From Here to There Hands Free

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 14, 2006 12:10 PM

Jun 14, 2006 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- The market for the 3rd party logistics industry is $103.7 billion as of 2005. This is a rapidly growing and dynamic industry.

The Emerging Stock Report is covering the Fronthaul Group. (OTCBB: FHAL). The Fronthaul Group is a Delaware corporation with branch offices in Rockwall, TX. The company expects to grow their business specifically in the areas of 3rd party logistics, Transportation Brokerage, and Motor Carrier services. It is the only referral-based marketing transportation logistics brokerage and currently has over 4000 members.

The Fronthaul Group announced today that it has signed a letter of intent to provide third party logistics for the Climate Exchange of the Americas, Inc. (CEOTA). The letter of intent is for management and third party logistics over an exclusive Brazilian license to recover sunken logs from the Amazon River and its tributaries. The Fronthaul Group will arrange the complete third party logistics life cycle including but not limited to; arranging log retrieval and milling operations and developing export markets for the environmentally safe wood products.

The Emerging Stock Report profiles emerging growth companies and brings them to the attention of the investment community ahead of the market providing concise analysis and resources required in determining when a stock appears poised for growth.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
what's up with these mirror trades
 
Posted by skipdeez on :
 
if MM signals are true, then nite and someone else are fighting about which way to go with this, lots of 100 and 500 share orders up and down...
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
do you smell blood on the streets, MM in trouble cause they are short on tis stock and that 1.5billion dollar revenue is jmakig them sweating
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
are you going to hold till tomorrow tonicma?
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
yeah, too much volume going on, plus news is just going out to people. they will see and go me buy me buy.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
they're mirror trading like crazy and it seems to be bringing the pps down
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
I'm holding overnight and hopefully we get another PR tomorrow.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
I held too guys. Let's hope we get hope we get that follow up PR. Could make a nice run tomorrow...
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
This will be a big gapper tomorrow. look for a 20% opening, then upwards from there.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
Look at all the alerts this thing got today

06/14/2006 13:22 ET - OTCReporter.com: FHAL - " Featured Company " Alert gains 230%
06/14/2006 13:05 ET - market_gainer.com: Issues Updates on The Fronthaul Group
06/14/2006 12:33 ET - WallStreetGrapevine.com: Stocks on the Rise
06/14/2006 12:16 ET - otcstockexchange.com: SDRG, FHAL, DOIG, OGHC - OTCStockExchange.com Stock Alert
06/14/2006 12:10 ET - Emerging Stock Report: Getting it From Here to There Hands Free
06/14/2006 11:53 ET - OTCPicks.com: Daily Market Movers Digest Stock Alerts, Wednesday, June 14th, IPTM, SAOL, FHAL, KLGE, DOIG
06/14/2006 11:44 ET - bellwetherreport.com: Issues Alerts for Bankteller Ltd. (BTLI.PK) and The Fronthaul Group (FHAL.OB)
06/14/2006 11:21 ET - Stock_wire.com: The Pioneers of the STOCKUMENTARY, deliver the Movers and Shakers ****, Part 3
06/14/2006 10:28 ET - OTCReporter.com: FHAL - Featured Company " Breaking News " Alert
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
this one ,i watched from sideline today could be a player on open! good luck
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
Just called TA to get an up to date share count. (702)317-7757

O/S: 67,374,721 [Smile]

Current market cap is only $8 million.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
lets see ,,lets only take 500 million of the 1.5 billion ....divided by 67,374,721....thats 7421.18$ per share --7.42118100941 per share...now thats fuc-k-up!!!
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
Those sound like some good numbers to me, can't wait for tomorrow!! Should be interesting.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
I flipped this one today guessing that it would be back down. I'll be back in at .11 if it gets there.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
This stock only did 8,350,176 in share volume for the entire month of May.

It did 8,865,198 today alone.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
$1,500,000 in trucking brokerage earnings .... and it is an LOI, o.k., I will make some calls tomorrow, (ceota) and find out who all will be involved in this project. if trucking this stuff is $1,500,000 then who will be bringing this to market?? more major money in the other companies.
this is not a bash but a reasonable look at the market for hardwoods.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
Does the fact that the deal was a letter of intent change anything. What are the chances they lose the contract due to this...
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Well, I am holding for tomorrow, this baby is gong to run hard.

Major vol and alerts going out so people, hold on .
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
post from another board:

It's more likely that we'll see .30 tomorrow and $1 in 2 weeks and $10 by the end of summer IMO. Remember, this company is getting $1.5 BILLION in revenue and the market capacity is $8 million. That means share value SHOULD be litterally $20 to $30 dollars, possibly even $36 at some time. This isn't just an ordinary penny stock, this is one of those rare ones that people make millions on potentially. I got everything invested in this one right now.

That first news break was just a drop in the bucket, it was only the FIRST letter of intent. Thats barely ANYTHING and what the stock did today is nothing compared to what it will go up to. This is a new company. Think about it, all the big time companies start off really small like it is now before they go up to dollar stocks like $30.
 
Posted by pennyaddict71 on :
 
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[ June 14, 2006, 20:49: Message edited by: pennyaddict71 ]
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Im loaded up and ready to make myself some money to pay off my Ferrari F430 off next week. LOL.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
How much did that thing set you back???
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
The news about todays LOI is on the CEOTA website.
http://www.ceota.org/
 
Posted by money 76 on :
 
excellent stock . i think after cardima and senticore its fhal all the way .

made some good double
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I did a little digging and found a report done at Purdue titled "2005 Indiana Forest Products Price Report and Trend Analysis". I realize the pricing is based on trees in Indiana and uses the US Dollar as currency which I'm not sure how to translate to Africa, but the range on hardwood first grade lumber (FAS) was anywhere between $355 to $2330 per MBF (1000 board feet). This translates to $923 Million to $6.06 Billion worth of lumber the PR stated today - and that was noted as being conservative and only the initial phase of the project.

Things I liked from the PR today are that CEOTA has the "exclusive Brazilian license" and FHAL is the "only referral-based marketing transportation logistics brokerage". As the LOI appears to be between the only two organizations that can pursue this effort as laid out, I like the odds for FHAL.
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
SC-
LOI is just the first step.
I will probably buy in tomorrow but this at best is the first step on the road to multiple dollars pps.
I'm with you guys and see the potential here, but remember that basically LOI is rumor and 8k is fact.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
OS 62,192,033

From 10QSB
Mr. Mike Alexander is employed pursuant to a five-year employment agreement that commenced on August 28, 2004. The agreement provides for a base annual a salary of $150,000 per year and a bonus of 20% to 50% per year as determined by the Board of Directors based upon the performance of Furia, and the use of a vehicle. The agreement also provides that the number of shares of Common Stock of Furia shall never be less than sixty percent (60%) of the total issued and outstanding Common Stock at any time. The agreement also provides for his indemnification against any and all claims and demands, including court costs and reasonable attorneys' fees that may arise out of his services to Furia.

Which means IMO
62,192,033 x 60% equals 37,315,220 shares by contract that Mike Alexander owns and since he is an officer of the company they are restricted.

The 2,780,405 shares repurchased by the Company from December 2005 to March 31, 2006 were purchased in open-market transactions.

Which means these 2,780,405 shares are also not in the float.

There are another few hundred thousand shares issued that are restricted that I am not counting in this.

FLOAT EQUALS
62,192,033 authorized
-37,315,220 Mike Alexander
- 2,780,405 Company Repurchased

22,096,408 Total Float

Thats how it all works out for me, let me know if you figure it any different, but I think its close.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I am getting very excited about this stock I'll be looking to try and add more today. If the price is right. I wish I would've been able to get in at the .06 mark most of my shares are .115 right now good luck to everyone.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Yeah, I agree Ryan, would have been nice to have seen this one earlier when it was in the .05-.06 but missed it their.

I'm in higher than you at .116 but I think we will be fine. After market yesterday it went to .14 so should probably gap up this morning.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
This one should be good today, there's a lot of buzz on other message boards about this.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I also like the fact that The Climate Exchange of the Americas, Inc. Also released that pr. Not like when USXP said they had signed a LOI to buy a comp. or have a partnership you could never find anything from the other co.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
ajman, is that right about the float only being 22 million? It seems like the way you explained it is right, has anyone confirmed it?
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
don't know how else to confirm other than dig thru the filings like I did.

Have at it......lol. Yeah, I think it is close.

The OS as it turns out is about 67M as confirmed with the TA so make the adjustments accordingly.

Ends up that 24,169,484 Total Float
 
Posted by alwaysup on :
 
I was in the wholesale lumber industry for about 6 years. The sunken lumber in the Amazon basin has been discussed many times. However, we could never find a way to recover, dry, and mill this wood and make it profitable. It appears that they have. Just remember, this will be very expensive. The $1.5B revenues will in no wise be translated nto profits. Personally, I will keep my eye on who is chosen for the recovery.
 
Posted by pennyaddict71 on :
 
This contract was issued by Ceota, I've done my D+D on Ceota and they are for real, this is going to be HUGE!

http://www.ceota.org/index.html

Ceota has entered into contract with FHAL, this is HUGE for the stock.. and if it doesn't go up short term I'm not worried as this is one of the few long tem hold out there, once they start recovering these logs and selling them off for lumber earnings will bring this baby up.

CEOTA is a non-profit organization based in Fort Worth, Texas that is focused on the preservation and reforestation of the Amazon basin rainforest in Brazil.
The Brazilian rainforest represents about 1/3 of all remaining rainforest in the world and generates over 15% of all oxygen for the planet.

The Amazon River is over 4,000 miles long and discharges 14 times the amount of water as the Mississippi River.

With all the deforestation and clearing of land, this natural ecosystem is being detroyed. CEOTA is making a difference and is working to preserve natural land and to, reforest cleared and harvested areas, as well as, the recovery of abandoned logs in the Amazon River.

Assist CEOTA's efforts by making a donation and subscribing to the CEOTA Email List.

We thank you for your time and assistance with the CEOTA projects.


CEOTA has the exclusive license to recover logs from a 100 mile stretch of the Amazon River in Brazil. Experts have determined through sonar analysis and measured navigational hazards there are at least 6,000,000 cubic meters of easily recoverable wood.
This wood is very resilient to water and only the outer layers are affected. CEOTA is actively working towards recovery of this wood as experts have determined that for each log recovered there will be an equivalent to 35 living trees that will be saved from destruction thus saving valuable acres of existing rainforest.
 
Posted by pennyaddict71 on :
 
Investor Alert For Thursday, June 15th
NOTE TO EDITORS: The Following Is an Investment Opinion Being Issued by eLocity Inc.

SARASOTA, FL -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 06/15/06 -- eLocity's stocks to watch for today are -- Industrial Nanotech, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: INTK), The Fronthaul Group. (OTCBB: FHAL), Paid Inc. (OTCBB: PAYD), On The Go Technologies Group (OTCBB: OGHC):


The Fronthaul Group. (OTCBB: FHAL) announced Wednesday that it had signed a Letter of Intent with The Climate Exchange of the Americas, Inc., "for management and third party logistics over their exclusive Brazilian license to recover sunken logs from the Amazon River and its tributaries." The company said that its specific area of responsibility could yield a potential of $1,500,000,000 in gross revenue.

FHAL closed Wednesday at $0.12.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
3 alerts out for FHAL today...
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
mm's moving up premarket. Current ask now .125
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
.12 x .13
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
L2s

Bid 1x.12 2x.11 1x.10

Ask 1x.129 3x.13 1x.132
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
not going as planned.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
there's usually always a dip first thing in the morning
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Just a dip, it's headed back up
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
excellent volume for the first 8 minutes!!
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
big dip in progress
 
Posted by juice on :
 
panic setting in, always fun gimme cheap shares!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
ouch
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
*******S...only gave me 5K at .095
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
same here kt325ci DAMMIT heheh
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
well, they have limited shares to use for running it down..
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
.105 x .11
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Thanks for the dip now I bought a littl emore. now we go up
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
nice buys going through at .11
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Bouncing back up. Let's see this baby run.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
NITE is playing games again. nothing but buys at .11 then he drops ask to .109
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
anybody have any ideas are we filling gaps left from yesterday?
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
We're going backwards. Will it recover today?
 
Posted by Fuzzy1018 on :
 
this will go up anytime now, everyone who were up big from yesterday sold out this morning causing the pps to go down. now with new buyers we should go up
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
decent volume just seems that the action is slow
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
It went up from a low of .05 yesterday, ppl are just taking profits, we will be fine.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
plenty of buying at .095...
 
Posted by Fuzzy1018 on :
 
i bought more at .095 this morning aswell; it'll go up bid is creeping up on the ask- a good sign
 
Posted by Fuzzy1018 on :
 
wow volume is real low on all the good stocks today; ???
 
Posted by juice on :
 
nite has a crap load of shares to sell geeze move already
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
the volume was low on every stock, which is surprising. FRPT had an amazing news, but it took almost half an hour before it gave any significant meaning to the stock. funny how people are soo wary of the bear market. scenario is something similar to yesterdays!!!! slow market.. dont know where to put the money.. and low volume giving MM's lots of control!!!!
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Here comes the buys!!!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
finally! lol
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I can't believe it's taken so long with the potential magnitude of yesterday's news and low float for a penny
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Put sell orders on all of your shares at about .50 or better. That ties up your shares so they can't be used for legal shorts. They won't be able to loan your shares out.
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
FHAL is soaked in gasoline somebody needs to light a match!
 
Posted by Prdponce on :
 
1000 Shares took NITE of the ask...
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
Nite is controlling this thing..
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
yes he is
 
Posted by pennyaddict71 on :
 
Once log recovery starts this will explode, here is an email I just recieved.

The outlook looks bright, we should have more info in the next two weeks!

Hello Adam,
Thank you for your inquiry. I am not at liberty to discuss any of the pertinent details other than that we are working towards a more definitive agreement and we hope to have it completed within the next 12-14 days. and for the Fronthaul group to start the recovery process within the next 90-120 days.

Best Regards

Carl Olivieri
Director
www.ceota.com
carl*ceota.com
cell 818.355.9664
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Fronthaul Group
> From: "
> Date: Thu, June 15, 2006 7:30 am
> To: <carl*ceota.com>
>
>
> Hi Carl, could you tell me a little more about your dealings with Fronthaul Group? When do you expect to enter into contract with them? Also what sort of timeframe are you looking at when Fronthaul begins working with Ceota on recovery of the logs? Any additional information would be helpful.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
good job. I think once people hear that this contract has been finalized and an expected start date of the recovery process we'll be off and really running. I think I am going to try and add in the meantime.
 
Posted by pennyaddict71 on :
 
I just got off the phone with Carl, this looks very promising. Carl basically said the contract will be done in the next 10-14 days or sooner, just waiting on lawyers, they are already lining up getting the man power down to Brazil and the equipment, FHAL should start recovering the logs in the next 3-4 months. This recovery process has been done in the past, years ago there was another company that was doing it, they have video and pictures of the process and know what it takes to recover these logs. This looks great guys.

Adam

I'm buying more.
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
the volume was low on every stock, which is surprising. FRPT had an amazing news, but it took almost half an hour before it gave any significant meaning to the stock. funny how people are soo wary of the bear market. scenario is something similar to yesterdays!!!! slow market.. dont know where to put the money.. and low volume giving MM's lots of control!!!!

Yes, you are right on the money
 
Posted by POOLBOY on :
 
Im not a shareholder of this co. but have read that they are going to recover this logs. I watch a show last week on HISTORY CHAN. were they were doing the same thing in Maine with this lake that had been used long time ago to float logs to a mill and alot of logs had fell to the bottom. This man built a boat that could recover them off the bottom and haul them in to shore and he cut them into wood for furniture. The wood was worth hundreds a foot because of the age and color. I just thought it was cool and seeing a co. trying to do the same thing is neat.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
NITE'S up to .12 on the ask
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Penny, I reposted your email on I-Hub hope that is ok.

Thanks for making the extra effort.
 
Posted by pennyaddict71 on :
 
Thats ok with me, thanks!
 
Posted by alwaysup on :
 
Does anyone know who Fronthaul is going to use for the recovery of these logs? FHAL is a shipping co, not underwater recovery. the way I read into this, they will hire a recovery group to remove the wood, then truck it to the coast and ship it to the U S.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
they are also brokerage and logistics so that is exactly what they do
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Nite is really fishing for some shares.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
these 100 share buys and shares just pi$$ me off
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
everyone having fun??
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
This is worse than watching paint dry right now
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
hang tight onto your shares, I expect 6-8 weeks of quite time, during this time poeple like to dump their shares, hang onto them and only buy what you can without hurting your portfolio, because on morning you will look at this and BOOM, all of a sudden it's 2.00 +. glta
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by curmire5:
hang tight onto your shares, I expect 6-8 weeks of quite time, during this time poeple like to dump their shares, hang onto them and only buy what you can without hurting your portfolio, because on morning you will look at this and BOOM, all of a sudden it's 2.00 +. glta

meant to say one morning ...
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
2.00 would make me very happy indeed, hell at this point even .20 would make me happy [Smile]
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MHampton:
2.00 would make me very happy indeed, hell at this point even .20 would make me happy [Smile]

Hang in there mhampton , if the LOI turns into a definitive agreement, the pps will soar overnight, I amost gaurantee that, the question is what day and month it happens, could be tommorrow, or 3-6 months from now, anyway accumilating is a good idea. look at ptsc I owned them last october, bought at .14-16, needed christmas cash and sold, on jan. 30th went to 2.50 per share. this will do the same thing IF it turns into a definitive agreement. good luck and accumilate. regards and good luck to as all.
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
I'm hanging in, it does look like a good one with great growth potential, I just hate it when I'm underwater though (no pun intended, well, ok some pun intended).
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
well one thing to think about is if this stock pursue's a forward split, it's a possibility to split 20-1 and after the split still be well over the 2-3 dollar mark, could happen, I will be contacting the company in a few day's and inquire about a driving job, and see what projects are up and coming for the company, if they even mention "amazon" I will post everything on this board, I am a class A driver, spotless record with 23 years experience. this stock could retire us all. but I will be posting on this board after the phone interview, and hey, if the job is good , maybe I will work there. LOL
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
bought more at 82, hopefully this is the bottom, I don't like seeing -31%
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
I'd like to see a little run up here to at least .10 just to make me feel a little better heading into tomorrow....
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
tick dammit...lol!!
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
This is brutal to watch!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
yes it is. Although did anyone happen to catch subpenny radio last night I don't remember exactly what was said buy simon said he wanted to see a little of a down day so the stock could fill all the gaps from the previous run. If I am miss stating what he said if anyone else heard it please correct me.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Well I picked up some more right before close, now have 50K shares.
This is my limit for now. The contract is supposed to be signed in 10-14 days, guess we'll see what happens. Can't believe this went down today instead of up, with a float around 25M, would have thought it would have been eaten up. Guess most are waiting to see the signed contract.

2 weeks, see what happens then.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
yes it is. Although did anyone happen to catch subpenny radio last night I don't remember exactly what was said buy simon said he wanted to see a little of a down day so the stock could fill all the gaps from the previous run. If I am miss stating what he said if anyone else heard it please correct me.

i dont listen spr, mainly because i think he exceedingly depends on his coutorie for picking stocks, and also does not give much importance to momentum. concentrating overly on charts is a little negative because MM's very often use it against traders. I appreciate his technical knowhow though, he is really good at it and predicts it well.
anyways, i think the correction was well deserved, but i doubt if the gaps have been really filled. moreover, i thought this stock will run up and see green today, purely because if this would have run today, tomorrow would have been another amazing green day. but looks like there were too many runner today and so people kind of ignored this. but i accumulated.. and am sure if not a huge run, this will definitely see 0.2 in the short term. i can wait 2 weeks [Smile]
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
I don't care to wait, but this is another example of why I still do it. I flipped yesterday for a profit and got back in this afternoon. 10 days is not too long to wait for what this thing can do with that news.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
herez the news on coeta website.

http://www.ceota.org/index.html

atleast they are not lying [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Al information about this company checks out to be true. With this contract comming, FHAL is the most undervalued stock I have ever found. If anybody can come up with a negative angle on FHAL please bring it to our attention because I am going "all in" on this. The only thing that seems strange to me is that we dont have any bashers yet.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'm hoping for big things from this one. You always hear people saying this stock is not like all the other penny's. This statement might just be correct about this stock. GLTA
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Any predictions on this one for today?
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
It will either go up, down, or stay the same....
see, predicting stock prices is easy... [Smile]
 
Posted by pepa z depa on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ajman:
Put sell orders on all of your shares at about .50 or better. That ties up your shares so they can't be used for legal shorts. They won't be able to loan your shares out.

is that really true? l i have 2 milions of shares in PBLS and LFWK, so if i can a bit help to them, i would do that.
Anyway,I am planning to buy some shares of FHAL of course.
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Nite is up to his old games again. Small fake trades each way to make it look like sells are going through. Fools some of the people some of the time.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
I see you're a wise man MHampton!!!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Yes Pepa, it's true if you have a sell order in for your shares the broker cannot loan them out for legal shorting purposes.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
buys starting to come in
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Lets see this get back up there early before the Friday sell off starts.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Don't get frustrated with this one people, it is the real deal. The contract is confirmed by ceota and posted on their website. The contract is expected to be signed within 2 weeks.

This is money in the bank and the people that are buying now or over the last couple of days will be happy they did shortly.

A 1.5Billion dollar contract verified by both ends is huge. This is a contract like the big boys get. Hang on and smile, you've done good to get here. [Smile]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I agree aj. what's up with this spread?
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
I think they know that this is going to go crazy when the contract is signed and they want as many shares as they can get at these prices. Really you can't blame them, this will probably make their bonuses for the year for them.

They have lots of tricks they can use and they will use them all now to get as many as possible.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
yeah i can see that.. aj.. holding strong here.. wont give up mine till i see 0.5 [Big Grin] .. weather it be today, or it be 2 weeks.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
If the dollar figures are correct in that LOI .5 might be on the low end IMO.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
markets are down.. nobody wants to buy anything other than fdsm... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
the dollar figures are correct, they have been verified by ceota.

and yes I agree, .50 is going to be the low end.
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
The potential on this one is very good, but it is not a short term investment unless you want to leave a lot of money on the table, best play for this is probably to wait for the double, remove the capital, and ride the free shares up.
 
Posted by Fuzzy1018 on :
 
bid is higher than the current pps, but its still not moving ?
 
Posted by Fuzzy1018 on :
 
this have very good days to come ahead, definatly a good stock to be in
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Wish I had more funds available, I would be adding more to average down some.

Currently have 50K at average of .102 per share.
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
How low do you think it will go before news hits. (between now and two weeks from now)

I have been buying at .08. It's slow but it gets filled.

Do you guys see it going lower?

I personally think it will go as low as .07 before going up.
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
Low volume today, getting rid of the weak hands, and making a few people very happy to get in so low.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
when are we leaving the port???? mannn.. i doubled at 0.08, averaged down to 0.087. now we are all set to move..comeon.......
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
I have a big order sitting at 0.08, not getting filled though. Managed to Avg down from 0.125 to 0.103 already [Smile] [Smile]
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
I have a big order sitting at 0.08, not getting filled though. Managed to Avg down from 0.125 to 0.103 already [Smile] [Smile]

I've had my order in all day and I've only got 3/4 of it filled.

Over the next couple days I'm also going to go in huge.

Hopefully, I'll have a few million before the run.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockstar:
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
I have a big order sitting at 0.08, not getting filled though. Managed to Avg down from 0.125 to 0.103 already [Smile] [Smile]

Hopefully, I'll have a few million before the run.
*ahum* I think i'll erase the word "big" out of my post after reading the words "few millions" in your post [Big Grin]
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
well, I'm going to try. It is taking so long to get filled at .08.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
i'm at it too... waiting to get filled at 0.08.... if not 008..i will try 0.085!!!
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Goodones:
Al information about this company checks out to be true. With this contract comming, FHAL is the most undervalued stock I have ever found. If anybody can come up with a negative angle on FHAL please bring it to our attention because I am going "all in" on this. The only thing that seems strange to me is that we dont have any bashers yet.

I hate their name, it should be "Log-rollers" Inc. or something. That's my bashing for the day.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
i wish they had a website =X
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
This is a good example of how few shares nite has.
30k sold at .085 ask jumps to .10 Nite has nothing.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
fronthaul.com
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
The Fronthaul Group Receives Strong Upgrade by Respected Research Firm
(OTC: FHAL) Receives Speculative Buy Rating and $.40 Price Target From TSC, Inc.
Distribution Source : Market Wire

Date : Thursday, May 04, 2006


ROCKWALL, TX -- (Market Wire - May 04, 2006) -- The Fronthaul Group, Inc. (OTC BB: FHAL) is pleased to announce a well-respected firm, TRI-STATE Capital (TSC), has upgraded their equity rating on FHAL. This strong upgrade comes at a time when the company is closing the first of several acquisitions and the anticipated subsequent revenue growth. Revenue growth is based on signed letters of intent to acquire 100% of the total assets of several trucking companies. These acquisitions will increase their fleet and resources substantially. Included in these acquisitions will be office space for operations, a mechanics shop, and a fenced yard for securing equipment. Fronthaul will also assume existing contracts, which include Fortune 500 companies.

TSC is noted for their work with account executives, analysts, portfolio managers, institutions, venture capital investors, individual investors and the media. To view the entire independent research report, please click on the attached URL: http://www.otclive.com





Mike Alexander, President of The Fronthaul Group, states, "We are honored to have a quality independent research firm review our overall operations, progress and to provide the resulting upgrade in our stock. This offers further confirmation to our shareholders that our company is headed in the right direction." Mr. Alexander further stated, "We are now beyond sustainability. We have not only acquired fleets of semi-tractors, but we have acquired existing Fortune 500 contracts from a local trucking company."

For more information about The Fronthaul Group, Inc., call 1-972-722-9999 or visit http://www.fronthaul.com.

About The Fronthaul Group:

The Fronthaul Group is a Delaware corporation with branch offices in Rockwall, TX. The Fronthaul Group expects to grow their business specifically in the areas of 3rd party logistics, Transportation Brokerage, and Motor Carrier services. The Fronthaul Group is the only referral-based marketing transportation logistics brokerage and currently has over 4000 members.

Forward-Looking Statements:

This press release contains forward-looking statements. By their nature, forward-looking statements and forecasts involve risks and uncertainties because they relate to events and depend on circumstances that will occur in the near future. There are a number of factors that could cause actual results and developments to differ materially.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

The statements contained herein which are not historical are forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause the actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements, including, but not limited to, certain delays beyond the company's control with respect to market acceptance of new technologies or products, delays in testing and evaluation of products, and other risks detailed from time to time in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.


Contact:
The Fronthaul Group
2233 Ridge Road Suite 102
Rockwall, TX 75087
888-293-4285
Email Contact
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
old news [Big Grin]
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
yes, old news, but, this company has personality, just another good reason to buy, it's my back-up. if the loi is not made to a definitive agreement, at least we have something to fall back on [Eek!]
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
New numbers on Total Float:

OS 67,374,721 as per TA

from def 14C dated 4-13-2006 latest filing.
Mike Alexander owns 78.1% of outstanding shares which includes his right of conversion of 500,000 shares of preferred stock at 100 shares common for each share of preferred resulting in 50,000,000 shares of common.
This is quote from last quarterly filing 10QSB for quarter ending 3-31-2006. "On August 26, 2005, the anniversary date of this recapitalization, the Company elected not to buy back the preferred shares resulting in the preferred shareholders being granted the right to convert this preferred stock into an aggregate amount of 50,000,000 common shares." (labeled NOTE 5 in 10QSB for period end 3-31-2006)

THEREFORE:
TA reports OS as 67,374,721 and adding the 50,000,000 shares because the filing said that his 78.1% included his rights of conversion shares.........implies........he owns 78.1% of 117,374,721 shares or 91,669,657 shares. However he has not taken up the option to convert so he owns 41,669,657 common and 500,000 shares preferred, as of 4-13-2006.

Randy Moseley, Chief Financial Officer beneficially owns 300,000 shares, per def 14C. Also an officer so his shares are restricted.

On February 7, 2006, the Company issued 100,000 shares of its restricted common stock for consulting services to the Andrew Austin Group, which the Company valued at $12,500. The shares were issued in reliance upon Section 4(2) under the Securities Act of 1933.

On March 13, 2006, the Company issued 232,000 shares of its restricted common stock for consulting services to Lionheart Associates, Inc., which the Company valued at $20,880. The shares were issued in reliance upon Section 4(2) under the Securities Act of 1933.

There have been 2,780,405 shares repurchased by the Company from December 2005 to March 31, 2006 and were purchased in open-market transactions.

Which means these 2,780,405 shares are also not in the float.

FLOAT EQUALS
67,374,721 Outstanding per TA
-41,669,657 Mike Alexander...restricted
- 300,000 Randy Moseley...restricted
- 100,000 Andrew Austin Group...restricted
- 232,000 Lionheart Associates...restricted
- 2,780,405 Company Repurchased

22,292,659 Total Float Shares

I believe these numbers are as close as can be figured from available information.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Ceota has said that they are working hard to get the contract ready and signed. They said 12-14 days last week,,,,,,,,,If they are that anxious maybe we will see it this week, that would be nice. [Smile]

Going to be a good day when it's signed.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I agree 100% aj. Thanks for doing all that work with o/s numbers. Let's say even if fhal's gross rev. out of this deal is 500mil what does that bring our pps to something like $20?
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
one thing to remember, the LOI say's that this is going to bring in 1,500,000,000 of long term revenue, even 500,000,000 is a very awesome contract, should be about .13 without the company's regular business. but long term revenue could mean over several years, hard to predict it's pps. when the contract is signed this stock will rush out of the gate, probably very high, over about a 3 month period it will decline to about half of the gold rush. but also this company is poised for a very huge forward split, let's say 10 - 20 to 1 forward, trust me, we are all going to make a lot of cash.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
sounds good to me
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
purchasing the stock at these prices is supported with the company's regular business. this stock is a no lose situation. there is a company profile with targets report at "otclive.com" on the right side of the screen click on fhal. gives me security in this company. it is very aggressive. today I will pick up another 10-15 thousand shares. glta
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
The only "SURE DEAL" on the OTCbb is FHAL.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Goodones:
The only "SURE DEAL" on the OTCbb is FHAL.

I have never in my life seen company numbers this low, ever. fhal is a winner already, even without this contract, this contract will push it way over the top. the last stock I seen with numbers this low went from .005 to 2.50 on a 20 million deal (nvac.ob) a couple years ago, then the stock declined to .40, this is a winner, no lose, no brainer.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
10 more minutes and put my buy in.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
otclive.com, company report prior to this amazon deal. check it out.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
very encouraging thanks for the heads up
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
fhal still is not very well known, on the definitive agreement, this stock will be all over the charts.
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
volume hasn't changed in like ten minutes. I don't know if that is a good sign or bad.

Either way, I'm still accumulating.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
stockstar, you and me both, still have a buy in waiting to be filled, at least you and me are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, this is a very huge play, hold our resolve, retirement for me is around the corner on this one.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
no change in volume will make the MM's nervous.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Just waiting for some cash to clear and then i'll be adding to my position
 
Posted by Fuzzy1018 on :
 
once we get some news we'll fly
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
Just added 10,000 to my position at 0.09
Bid 0.08
Ask 0.094
Pretty big spread
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Just waiting for some cash to clear and then i'll be adding to my position

ryan, this stock has to be split, or no one can afford it's price. it will happen.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by curmire5:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Just waiting for some cash to clear and then i'll be adding to my position

ryan, this stock has to be split, or no one can afford it's price. it will happen.
very near future that is.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
can someone provide current Level IIs?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I have 15k share now. How big of a split would they do with their o/s somewhere around 23mil ?
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by curmire5:
no change in volume will make the MM's nervous.

either way is fine with me. If it goes lower I can buy more and if it goes higher then I make more on what I already have.

But we need more volume for sure. As it is, I'm about half of todays volume.
 
Posted by Fuzzy1018 on :
 
damn look at the spread between b/a now
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockstar:
quote:
Originally posted by curmire5:
no change in volume will make the MM's nervous.

either way is fine with me. If it goes lower I can buy more and if it goes higher then I make more on what I already have.

But we need more volume for sure. As it is, I'm about half of todays volume.

are you going to own this company ??? you are buying alot.. or do you know something I dont know, I can alway's mortgage my home. LOL
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I have 15k share now. How big of a split would they do with their o/s somewhere around 23mil ?

their outstanding is 67 mil, with 500,000 that can convert to 50 mil so total is 117 mil+- 23 mil in the float, I think maybe 20-1, but I have seen other company's (sub penny) split 150-1, ayear ago a penny stock trading at .005 did a forward split of 70-1 and the trade price went to .70 per share, some auto parts company with o/s of around 500 mil, huge split but bought out something like auto zone or a big company like that. this one is huge, so I dont really know but this co. is poised to do a split, it is going to have to after the contract at some point.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
well until the possible or probable split I'm going to try and increase my position to about 25k or depending on what price I can get it at.
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by curmire5:
quote:
Originally posted by stockstar:
quote:
Originally posted by curmire5:
no change in volume will make the MM's nervous.

either way is fine with me. If it goes lower I can buy more and if it goes higher then I make more on what I already have.

But we need more volume for sure. As it is, I'm about half of todays volume.

are you going to own this company ??? you are buying alot.. or do you know something I dont know, I can alway's mortgage my home. LOL
ha ha no, nothing like that. I just have a good feeling that this will go back to .16 with good news so I'm loading up. (knock on wood)

Call it "gambler's intuition".
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
God I wish my money had cleared so I can get in on these levels.
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
God I wish my money had cleared so I can get in on these levels.

Time to get rid of that broker.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
ameritrade it's like a 3 day wait when you deposit new funds to trade pennies
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
I have etrade. I can do an instant transfer. Not sure of the limit, but I can buy anything with it immed. The money is not available for withdrawal,
but transfered 2k last week and used it 2 minutes later.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I could buy stuff on the big boards but that's it. Hopefully it'll be cleared tomorrow
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
also at etrade you can sell security's and immediatly buy new security's, expensive though, 12.99 per trade.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 

 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
WOW, was going to post level 2's from otcbb but man, after posted was a huge file.
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
God I wish my money had cleared so I can get in on these levels.

I wouldn't worry to much if I were you. IMHO, it will stay at this level fore a few more days, maybe even until med next week.

But thats if no news comes out in between then and now.

glta
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I agree. This company does seem to have a ton of potential right now.
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
-
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
ouch, what happened, .0770 quite a dip
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
ask is still the same tho
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
no problem, the forward split I am expecting and the 5+ per share, a little fall back just lets me accumilate more.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
this board is boring, I own bkmp also, that board is alway's pumped. regards glta
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
hehe.. well nothing interesting happening curmire.. the prices have pretty much stalled.. its just vascillating between 0.08-0.095.. nothing interesting... no news either.. but no news actually is good because that means they are not simply pumping when stock price is raising. unlike some who release PR everytime stock price goes up with decent price. this shall rise eventually.. slowly.. and when it does.. it sure has something good in store for us all.. till then .. just relax.. and keep peeping once in a while!!! [Smile]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I think we'll be at these levels for a little longer and then news of that LOI becomming a signed contract and additional news on there fleet expansion who knows how high this thing could go.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I'm in at .07. Hope that's the bottom, but doesn't everyone hope they buy at the bottom.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
all forgotten and lonely in the bottom of the forum [Frown]
low volume...need more news about the contract. Could be anyday, im keeping a close eye on it for this week at least
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
PR is expected before end of this week right stock_feign? thats what someone who had contacted the company posted last week. still holding..
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
for 1.5 billion dollars, im here reading every single post and doing my own DD lol...i got major radar on this and IGAI. they both low and waiting for major news
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I believe they said that the contract should be signed in 10-14 days. I believe that post was from last thursday
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
yea give or take a week or so.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
hey guy's, hold our heads up !!! still accumilating, another 6000 today, and hopefully another 20,000 on friday, Im poor.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
News coming tomorrow!

ROCKWALL, TX--(MARKET WIRE)--Jun 20, 2006 -- With a referral-based of over 4000 members, The Fronthaul, Inc. (OTC BB:FHAL.OB - News) makes its debut appearance on *** Radio.
Airing on June 21, 9a.m. Pacific/11a.m. Central/ Noon Eastern, the 3rd party logistics and transportation services company, today announced that it would conduct a live press conference via Market News First. The live broadcast is available to anyone with internet access and who can download the free player at www.***.com enabling them to listen in for management's review of operations and discussion of future prospects.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
MT..whats ***.. if PR tomorrow..mann.. i am sure we are atleast 200% up on this!
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
What's up with the "***" ? Need a real address.
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
Looks like the domain name's being filtered, so... em en one dot com

The site lists FHAL at 11AM tomorrow under "Press Conferences."

Newbie here, but I've got some FHAL.

[ June 20, 2006, 20:23: Message edited by: scribbler ]
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
scribbler, good stock, it will make a ton of cash for us all, but, this board is boring, we get some excitement, I only own about 25000 shares but will accumilate 1200.00 more in cash on fri. glta
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
that would be www.***.com tommorow
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
the *** should be www. *** .com
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
dang it, the *** is.... ***
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
let me spell it in code the *** is .........m....m....1
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by curmire5:
let me spell it in code the *** is .........m....m....1

M...N...1
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
loll lolll... dat was funny!!!!!! [Smile]
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Now that is a very persistant filter..........and a very persistant poster

Thanks for getting that out
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I can't wait to hear what they have to say. I'll be trying to add to my position today.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I added 12k at the ask. I think any good news or reaffirming the news could cause this to go up nicely imo
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
anyone listen to the news conf? don't have time myself, hopefully someone will let us know what was said
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'm at work but I'll try. I am now at 25k avg at .1
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I wonder what they're actually going to say today. Usually any big news is done in a pr correct? Maybe they'll release one after the conference
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
someone just dropped 100K shares... What time is the news conference??
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by scfraser1:
someone just dropped 100K shares... What time is the news conference??

11 AM CST
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
bought IMO... My tricker shows bought.. can anyone confirm???
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
mine showed up as sell, but could be wrong.. They may have filled it under the ask since it was a good size...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
my streamer locked up. We are sitting at hod with bid at .08
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
climbing bid and ask bid .085 ask .09
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
somethings going on
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
oh OH!
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
people love the news conference..and the 1.5B project they have recently received.. way to go!!!! BOOM!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I think they instilling investor confidence
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
This should move with more volume. Seems to uptick with buying pressure.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
volume will come after news conference IMO.. there are people listening to it as we type!!!
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
.095 x .098 uptick.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Unless I'm on crack, the conference isn't for another 20 minutes. (Central time). I'm planning on listening during lunch.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
I haven't checked this board in a while. Can someone tell me what station is supposed to air this news conference? I'll see if I can get it and let you know what's being said. I just need to know where to tune in.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
New high for the day and from the excitement today, I'd say it is going much higher.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by amswap:
I haven't checked this board in a while. Can someone tell me what station is supposed to air this news conference? I'll see if I can get it and let you know what's being said. I just need to know where to tune in.

see posts on previous page - you'll know why I didn't just type it here when you read the previous page
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
check the PR ams!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
ask 0.11
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
after positive news conference..ask should be up 0.3 IMO MT!! [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
after positive news conference..ask should be up 0.3 IMO MT!! [Smile]

It wasn't that long ago that they were at that level - and that was without this $1.5B deal - so, you very well could be right.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
ask 0.12
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Got to the site and clicked the listen live and nothing happens. I have all the players and no problems with anything esle, so I am guessing they have a loading problem on their end. Sorry I can't help you out with the news.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
Guys name on the show is Big Dick...lmao!!!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Conference is starting....I'll try to update as much as I can.

Mike Alexander is on.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I can't get the player to work. I'll be awaiting you updates appreciatively
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Mike says they signed the contract. He didn't mention LOI! I hope they talk more about this...we'll see if he confirms the signed contract.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
He said they signed a relatively large contract, didn't call it letter of intent.....
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
They are talking about the broker business. They said they have 100 loads a day listed. They make money by adding a rate per mile to each load.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
They have tripled their own fleet of trucks. Have contract with Coors. Lease all trucks. Started out with 2 trucks and will have 10 in the next few days.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
Here comes the explanation of the log contract..
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Here comes the Amazon deal. Its a 3rd party logistics deal. Manage entire process to remove, mill, and ship the wood all over the world. Oversee through sub-contractors.

6mil cubic meters available...$260 per cubic meter.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
They'll retrieve, mill, and ship the logs all over the world through sub contracters.... $260 a cubic meter for the wood....
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Contract should be signed today or tomorrow. The license can be expanded to the entire Amazon. The contract now is just for 6mil...$1.5bil
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
would they have Q&A session? if they do can anyone ask when the thing is supposed to start?
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Talking finanacials now.

Expenses coming for stock issuances & investor relations.

Fuel has been a big hit.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
would they have Q&A session? if they do can anyone ask when the thing is supposed to start?

you can call in right now to ask a question on the conference at 866-495-4122
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Caller asks...is FHAL doing the actual extraction, or hauling...

Mike says...there are other companies doing the retrieval...they will just handle the logistics. Saw mills will be leased. Mills will cut and ship.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Already up over 50%...You guys expect more outta this??
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
maumee, I flipped this last week when it hit over .14 and that was only with the LOI. More solid news should send this thing up like we're hoping XKEM does. The contract signing tomorrow or Friday could do wonders for this thing. I see one of the few great opportunities here. Been wrong before, but I think this is a solid play.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Mike...4600 logs were retrieved before and sold as grade A lumber. $1.5bill is based on the average quality from the 4600 logs from before....
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
FHAL knows the guy who has the exclusive contract for all of the Amazon retrieval. Not just the 6mil cubic meters, but all. This contract is just for the 6mil.

Conference is over.
 
Posted by stockinthemud on :
 
contract details should be out in the next couple days.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I couldn't get everything down. I assume the financials are out there already. They hit him up on the negative profit and the low profit margins.

That was a pretty fast conference. Sounds like the contract is not done, but he said they just had to dot the i's and cross the t's. He hopes to have it out in the next few days.

Sounds like it could be possible that they will be able to increase the contract over time to possibly the rest of the Amazon!
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
So if the interview is over (or when it is) what exactly did we learn from it?
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
thanks milliam for the updates!!!! awesome conference... now lets see what investors have to say!!!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Thanks guys for relaying everything you could. It sounds like good news about the contract.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
they did say their margin is running at 15 percent so how mutch of the total estimated value will come to them? they said they are handleing the logistics of the process, how many years will it take to bring this wood to market? what will be their " end " in terms of profit? 15 percent of 1.5 billion would be 275 million but they will not be getting a full share of the 1.5 billion if they are only providing logistical services will they?
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
We're well over the average volume trading, so maybe this will stay up today. We get news tomorrow about the signed contract and we're off.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
dropping...
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
they did say their margin is running at 15 percent so how mutch of the total estimated value will come to them? they said they are handleing the logistics of the process, how many years will it take to bring this wood to market? what will be their " end " in terms of profit? 15 percent of 1.5 billion would be 275 million but they will not be getting a full share of the 1.5 billion if they are only providing logistical services will they?

275M margin is huge for a company which has such a low float and trading at 0.1 mad. what do you think? a company with outstanding contract that would generate 1.5B, along with extended contract possibility, and profit margin of 15%.. thats equivalent of any of the defense stocks that I own! and far better than retailer stocks out there!
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by scfraser1:
dropping...

dip and run!!!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hopefully just a little shake
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
guess everyone expected the contract to be signed already......

Oh well, it should be today or tomorrow
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
i'm sitting on a bid of 0.08 for extra $5K worth of shares. hope some weekhands give them to me.. [Smile]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
they did say their margin is running at 15 percent so how mutch of the total estimated value will come to them? they said they are handleing the logistics of the process, how many years will it take to bring this wood to market? what will be their " end " in terms of profit? 15 percent of 1.5 billion would be 275 million but they will not be getting a full share of the 1.5 billion if they are only providing logistical services will they?

275M margin is huge for a company which has such a low float and trading at 0.1 mad. what do you think? a company with outstanding contract that would generate 1.5B, along with extended contract possibility, and profit margin of 15%.. thats equivalent of any of the defense stocks that I own! and far better than retailer stocks out there!
they did not say how mutch of the value of these resources will be comming to them, they did say a number of other contractors would be involved in recovery, transport, finishing and sales. I would like to see profit projections and a time line neither of witch were mentioned in this conference. I am shure they will get this contract but the road to revenue generation will be many months away maybe a year or more. just looking for solid answeres to relavent questions.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I actually wasn't thinking the contract would be done today. I think today was really just a state of the business update. I think when the contract is signed we'll see a PR stating that FHAL has entered into a contract with CEOTA. With possible gross revenue worth $1.5b IMO
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
moving up again
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
they did not say how mutch of the value of these resources will be comming to them, they did say a number of other contractors would be involved in recovery, transport, finishing and sales. I would like to see profit projections and a time line neither of witch were mentioned in this conference. I am shure they will get this contract but the road to revenue generation will be many months away maybe a year or more. just looking for solid answeres to relavent questions. [/QB]

I am confused at what you are saying. on one stand, you say they have 15% profit margin and on the other, you say you are not sure of profit projection. on one side you say they have secured projected 1.5B worth of contract, this would mean they obtained the contract solely for themselves, and revenues generated would be for themselves, on the other you point to some tom contractor elsewhere. i agree with you that main thing is how quickly will this start generating revenue, but if it starts generating revenue from the contract, any stock market expert would put the price of the stock at $2 $3 and not 0.1, thats 2000-3000% appreciation you are talking about!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Mad they are a logistics company, like a general contractor on a construction site, they will hire and control the subcontractors.

This contract when signed will be theirs and they will book all transportation and recovery and milling, that will be their charge.

15% profit margin for this is good. $275M on the initial contract, with already talks of getting a larger area to work.

Upside very good here.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I agree everything so far seems positive. If this starts rolling I think we all stand to make a fair share of money. imo
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
moving up.. BxA 0.095x0.105
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
NITE is bumping the bid up
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
FHAL knows the guy who has the exclusive contract for all of the Amazon retrieval. Not just the 6mil cubic meters, but all. This contract is just for the 6mil.

Conference is over.

milliam - are you referring to CEOTA or someone else when you say "FHAL knows the guy . . ."? Just curious because the CEOTA website states they have rights to only 100 miles of the Amazon.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Nobody bit on the shake earlier. Now .098 x .105.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
ruskin_muskin : I listened to the conference, no one asked what the projected profits were, no one asked about a time line for recovery. actualy come to think of it the last caller asked about thier margin on this deal and did not get a clear answere. hence my questions. and it was the CEO who talked about the other contractors, it all sounds good so far, just looking for a clearer picture of this deal. no doubt that when the contract PR is issued many of these questions will be answered. thanks for everyones input!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I think you're correct with your questions. What part of CT are you from? I'm from East Haven
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
true mad.. i got little confused by your post.. sorry abt that..anyways time to celebrate for us all!! [Smile]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
I think you're correct with your questions. What part of CT are you from? I'm from East Haven

I`m from western CT. great day today!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'm in Bridgeport right now stuck in an office
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Contract should be signed today or tomorrow. The license can be expanded to the entire Amazon. The contract now is just for 6mil...$1.5bil

I like this part of the news conference. Today after hours PR stating contract signed would be just what we need. Then another PR in the morning giving us the meat of the Deal.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
milliam - are you referring to CEOTA or someone else when you say "FHAL knows the guy . . ."? Just curious because the CEOTA website states they have rights to only 100 miles of the Amazon.

Mark, the ceo, made it sound like the guy who had the rights to all of the sunken trees in the Amazon was a friend of his. I think he went on to say that the guy is a missionary in Amazon and didn't want to be bothered with getting all of this wood up and out for sale. I might have mis-understood something though. I know he did remark a few times about this contract only being for a section of what is actually available and that the rest could very well be theirs in the future.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
That would be extrordinary news if that ever came to fruition!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
As for the 15% profit margin...that was all based solely on their current trucker brokerage business. IMHO, this Amazon deal is something totally different. I would hope their profit margin on this could be better, but I don't know much about this kind of stuff.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Does anyone this this will run EOD in anticipation of possible pr tomorrow?
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
i dont think real run.. this shall steadily rise for next 3 days and when PR comes..BOOM!!!..
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
nice to see it going up now.. hopefully PR this week
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
here we go back up again. lets hope for a good run before close then NICE pr tomorrow hopefully!!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
is anyone staying in overnight or gonna get out and back in the morning,
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
I'm out for now and will get back in on a dip if there is one. I've flipped this a few times and could get 20K shares with what's been made so far. This has been a good one for flipping waiting on the pr.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
closed at HOD, now lets get a PR before hours
tomorrow about the contract being signed... [Smile] [Big Grin]

[Big Grin] [Cool] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
BOOM.. good i didnt flip it yesterday [Big Grin] .. tomorrow another green..with 10-15% gain and then the next day PR.. BOOM!!!
 
Posted by The Phat Man on :
 
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Posted by The Phat Man on :
 
sorry... thought for a moment it was tuesday (too much time watching my computer today)
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
PayDay --- it is comming.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
This is what the contract covers, from Ceota website:

CEOTA has the exclusive license to recover logs from a 100 mile stretch of the Amazon River in Brazil. Experts have determined through sonar analysis and measured navigational hazards there are at least 6,000,000 cubic meters of easily recoverable wood. This 100 mile stretch is what ceota is contracting out to FHAL to handle. Notice the phrase EASILY RECOVERABLE.

A 15% profit margin, what does that mean? It means that after all expenses, from paying the subs that retrieve the logs from the river to paying for pencils on their desk, they will have 15% of the gross left over as profit, in this case $225M. Even IF it takes 5 years for this first phase, which I don't think it will because alot of the people that will be contracted to do the work are already in place, it would still be $45M PROFIT per year.

Just use the PROFIT per year to value the share price on outstanding shares it still works out to .67/share. This should give an absolute rock bottom price per share of the company. Something else to consider is that they also have other portions of the business that are making money and expanding, so the net profit of the company as a whole will be more than this.

Also remember that the $1.5B dollar figure was based on average condition of the logs. The 4600 logs that have been recovered as a test were considered grade A condition, so the overall total could potentially be higher.

If the estimated time to recover the logs in this 100 mile stretch is less than 5 years then the pps would be higher and if it is longer than 5 years then you could expect the rock bottom share price to be less than .67

From the news conference today they are expecting to get more than this initial 100 mile stretch. This is only phase 1 and as it said in the PR, THIS IS THE FIRST LOI, which to me sounds as though they have more surprises in the works.

Once they are operating and showing the world they can handle this size of project, I would expect they would have companies beating down their door to handle large projects for them.

$1.5B dollar project,,,,,,,,,how many companies can you name that are awarded this size of project?

Now of those you just thought of, how many of them are listed on the big boards? I would venture a guess that all of them were either NYSE or AMEX or NASDAQ companies. Point is, I can't think of another Pink sheet company that has been trusted with a project of this size.

IMO, We are in on the ground floor of a soon to be very very good company.
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
67 cents per share is no problem. Was 30 cents 5 months ago. Could be alot more with new L.O.I.s
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
8K is out
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
what does it say?
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
they hired another accounting firm.........

getting their financials in order
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
the volume NEEDS to move
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Could anybody be so stupid to sell now or is this some MM mind game.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Just hold on the contract is due to be signed today or tomorrow, if you jump out now you may regret it...............

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
i dont care if all i see is red shares...im holding
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
grrrrrrr! other way...move the OTHER WAY! >_<
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ajman:
Just hold on the contract is due to be signed today or tomorrow, if you jump out now you may regret it...............

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

was there anything in the conference that pointed out weather it would be THIS week to get the contract signed ?
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
^ IIRC yesterday or today

Could hear something this afternoon....
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
why cant fronthaul be professional enough to not fuk up the english language..i mean...its a website for the people, u HAVE to show professionalism.
LOOK
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Mike says they signed the contract. He didn't mention LOI! I hope they talk more about this...we'll see if he confirms the signed contract.

milliam was listening to the conference and posting what he heard. This was one of his post from yesterday.

Later on in the conference they said either yesterday or today would have it signed.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
That's right for everyone you personally sponsor you will recieve 2 cents per mile, for everyone they sponsor you will receive 1/2 a cent per mile, and so on until the sixth level where you will begin to recieve 1 cent per mile and on the seventh and final level you will once again begin to see 2 cents per mile.

this sounds like...a pyramid ? O_oa
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
My brother is in the trucking business and if he uses a broker to get loads they charge him 15% off the top as a brokers fee.

If they handle it this way, and allow the business to gain back some of this brokers fee it works well for everyone. It just allows drivers to keep more revenue for the brokered loads that they haul.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
yea i do understand all that, all i am saying is how the company is delivering their info to the public, "tell your friends", "vitimans",...i just wish it was a little more professional.
i mean dont give me wrong...i got money sitting in fronthaul lol so im not bashing.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
this should be getting more volume as the contract "would" be signed VERY SOON. its doing the total opposite
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
it will when they PR the contract.

to many skeptics yet. That is why it is good to be in already, because it won't be easy to get in once it hits.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
yea thats what i thought and got in averaging at .08

i am 20 years old for your information lol. this is what i do for a living, my bills and rent and all the life expenses rely on how well i do on here or not.
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
im in the same boat, also 20 years old too
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
well, fwiw, I think you're in a good position here and good luck to ya.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by moosehead9nc:
im in the same boat, also 20 years old too

i say fuk getting a job
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ajman:
well, fwiw, I think you're in a good position here and good luck to ya.

thanks AJ, you 2.
if the PR comes out tomorrow and this thing finally moves up north, drinks are on me but your buying [Razz]
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
yeah, thanks........lol

not sure where you're at but here you have to be 21.
 
Posted by alwaysup on :
 
In that case drinks are on you and you're matching [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
can i say....pr plz ?
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
does it really take till the EOD to see some buys...sh1t
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
so who is still in this ?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'm still in. To much potential
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
I just keep on adding when I can.......

I'm not worried about this one, the revenue will be to good for this to stay where it's at.
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
I am still in and will not be leaving anytime soon. There are alot of people waiting on the sidelines looking for the signed contract. I see a very easy double or triple in the next few days.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
we are all still waiting for that contract pr if it comes out anytime soon...its just odd that no one is loading up on it before the pr
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
There was a pretty small float before. I wonder where it's at now?
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
all the little thats moving is being sold, and the price is at the same
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I thought that upticks indicate buys
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
upticks remained the same...maybe a 0.005 here n there
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I like this. Seems like everyone is holding there shares and aren't letting them go cheap
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
averaging at .09 i DONT wana let them go. we all just need that pr or some news about the contract to see this skyrocket
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
When and who and what said that a signed contract PR would be out Thurs. or Fri.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I'm in at .10 I think this thing will explode on news imo
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I don't think anyone said pr. According to the press conference they said the contract could be done as soon as yesterday or today.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
well...forget yesterday...i dont know about today, maybe after hours trying to get it up for next week?
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Monday would be better. Many people would not catch it if released this afternoon. And then by Monday it would be old news.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
yet again...they SAID it would be late THIS week. So them delaying it till monday might be a good move, but with less credibility
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
They never said there was going to be a pr. They just said that the contract might be signed early
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
well i assume that when the contract would be signed, the shareholders have the right to know when it is done...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Who knows what there plans are for a releasing a pr maybe they're waiting for more info to throw on it. We just never know
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
If you go back a few pages, it says someone called a week or so ago and the company will release the pr within 12-14 days. So, depending on the day they called, it could be the end of this week or next week. It's looking like next week.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
it's next week I believe
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
Man, this sucks today. No movement and little volume.

I want to add to my position but I want to buy it around .08-.09. I hope it will get that low before the news.

Anyone think it will?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
You never know, but it seems to be pretty stable in the .09-.10 range
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
I predict some buys at the EOD. This is not going any lower and a Monday AM PR would lead to pre market gapping. Its pay now or alot more next week.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
i dont see it comming any lower than 9 since even with the current float and the low volume of the day, it stayed arround it. Monday or tuesday should be D day...hopefully, im tired of waiting on this PR
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by pennyaddict71:
Once log recovery starts this will explode, here is an email I just recieved.

The outlook looks bright, we should have more info in the next two weeks!

Hello Adam,
Thank you for your inquiry. I am not at liberty to discuss any of the pertinent details other than that we are working towards a more definitive agreement and we hope to have it completed within the next 12-14 days. and for the Fronthaul group to start the recovery process within the next 90-120 days.

Best Regards

Carl Olivieri
Director
www.ceota.com
carl*ceota.com
cell 818.355.9664
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Fronthaul Group
> From: "
> Date: Thu, June 15, 2006 7:30 am
> To: <carl*ceota.com>
>
>
> Hi Carl, could you tell me a little more about your dealings with Fronthaul Group? When do you expect to enter into contract with them? Also what sort of timeframe are you looking at when Fronthaul begins working with Ceota on recovery of the logs? Any additional information would be helpful.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam

this was posted from pennyaddict on 6/15, conversation with fhal.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by curmire5:
quote:
Originally posted by pennyaddict71:
Once log recovery starts this will explode, here is an email I just recieved.

The outlook looks bright, we should have more info in the next two weeks!

Hello Adam,
Thank you for your inquiry. I am not at liberty to discuss any of the pertinent details other than that we are working towards a more definitive agreement and we hope to have it completed within the next 12-14 days. and for the Fronthaul group to start the recovery process within the next 90-120 days.

Best Regards

Carl Olivieri
Director
www.ceota.com
carl*ceota.com
cell 818.355.9664
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Fronthaul Group
> From: "
> Date: Thu, June 15, 2006 7:30 am
> To: <carl*ceota.com>
>
>
> Hi Carl, could you tell me a little more about your dealings with Fronthaul Group? When do you expect to enter into contract with them? Also what sort of timeframe are you looking at when Fronthaul begins working with Ceota on recovery of the logs? Any additional information would be helpful.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam

this was posted from pennyaddict on 6/15, conversation with fhal.
so ...next week shall the contract pr come through
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
the contract should be by next thursday according to the email, how-ever I could be wrong but it will be on monday or tuesday, just a hunch. we need to hold what we have even if it were to take 6 mos. this sucker is huge and the pay-off potential is fantastic. I owned ptsc last augest and got impatient, on jan. 30 the stock went from .10c to 2.50 a share, I would have made 250,000.00 this year if I did not sale, but live and learn. regards.... glta
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by curmire5:
the contract should be by next thursday according to the email, how-ever I could be wrong but it will be on monday or tuesday, just a hunch. we need to hold what we have even if it were to take 6 mos. this sucker is huge and the pay-off potential is fantastic. I owned ptsc last augest and got impatient, on jan. 30 the stock went from .10c to 2.50 a share, I would have made 250,000.00 this year if I did not sale, but live and learn. regards.... glta

i would be salty as sh1t if i was u lol
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Investors have become so skeptical of penny stocks. I dont blame them, I have been burnt many times. With what appears to be a 99% chance of this dream contract going through you would think many investors would already be buying into FHAL. It seems like untill everybody sees Mike Alexander in a photo holding the signed contract, grinning ear to ear with a thumbs up signal nobody will get in. This is such a opportunity I only wish I had more to put into FHAL.
Next week is will be great.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
THIS is one amateur website...just look at it and TELL ME if from that u see a 1.5 BILLION dollar contract being signed...be honest with ur self
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
no offense but it looks like a redneck site, especially with the george patton quote, i mean really what business people will use that quote as motivational, its not that classy, remember i said no offense its just my opinion, not 1.5 billion worthy, but i dont care just somehow make the pps go up and make me some money and i can excuse the website
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
no offense but it looks like a redneck site, especially with the george patton quote, i mean really what business people will use that quote as motivational, its not that classy, remember i said no offense its just my opinion, not 1.5 billion worthy, but i dont care just somehow make the pps go up and make me some money and i can excuse the website

thats what i have been saying and been called basher for it...the company is worth arround 5 million, who is gona sign it a 1.5 BILLION dollar contract...the website has NO info other than 3rd grade math for truckers
no offense
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
maybe the website is for hiring purposes and not necessarily for stockholder information, all i know is send me a kickbutt PR and i am a happy man
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock_Feign:
THIS is one amateur website...just look at it and TELL ME if from that u see a 1.5 BILLION dollar contract being signed...be honest with ur self

I agree that the website isn't as professional as we would like it to be. But Look at Rushnet's website (RSHN) http://www.enjoytherush.com/ . The stock went from .0005 to .01 just because they had pr's that talked about brewery's and contracts with china (no where near what this contract is worth).

The website sucks with that company and the pps still went crazy.

Personally, I think any pr that mentions the contract, even if it hasn't been signed, will move the pps.

[ June 25, 2006, 17:02: Message edited by: stockstar ]
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
i know what u mean, 99% of pinks arent even real companies lol...hype brings it up, and no products brings it down, or pump & dump ...u call it.
i would love for it to go up, but who ever is making the news either they are real or fake...might wana be more realistic and down to earth, either way, fake or real, i just a quick dollar out of my fifty cents
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockstar:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock_Feign:
THIS is one amateur website...just look at it and TELL ME if from that u see a 1.5 BILLION dollar contract being signed...be honest with ur self

I agree that the website isn't as professional as we would like it to be. But Look at Rushnet's website (RSHN)http://www.enjoytherush.com/ . The stock went from .0005 to .01 just because they had pr's that talked about brewery's and contracts with china (no where near what this contract is worth).

The website sucks with that company and the pps still went crazy.

Personally, I think any pr that mentions the contract, even if it hasn't been signed, will move the pps.

oh trust me, i agree with u, i am sure, or at least i do hope that most people that are on here DO realize this is no msft or aapl, there are NO outside sources other than the company itself, i.e: they feed us what they want us to hear, as long as that makes the pps go up, im in then out asap.
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
Even us truckers like it. Giddy up Y'all.

http://www.classadrivers.com/phpBB2/archive/o_t/t_6482/check-out-fronthaul.com.. .-why-did-i-not-think-of-this.html
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
Even us truckers like it. Giddy up Y'all.

http://www.classadrivers.com/phpBB2/archive/o_t/t_6482/check-out-fronthaul.com.. .-why-did-i-not-think-of-this.html

truckers...the most trusted source for trading
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock_Feign:
quote:
Originally posted by stockstar:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock_Feign:
THIS is one amateur website...just look at it and TELL ME if from that u see a 1.5 BILLION dollar contract being signed...be honest with ur self

I agree that the website isn't as professional as we would like it to be. But Look at Rushnet's website (RSHN)http://www.enjoytherush.com/ . The stock went from .0005 to .01 just because they had pr's that talked about brewery's and contracts with china (no where near what this contract is worth).

The website sucks with that company and the pps still went crazy.

Personally, I think any pr that mentions the contract, even if it hasn't been signed, will move the pps.

oh trust me, i agree with u, i am sure, or at least i do hope that most people that are on here DO realize this is no msft or aapl, there are NO outside sources other than the company itself, i.e: they feed us what they want us to hear, as long as that makes the pps go up, im in then out asap.
msft had an idea, they were bashed from big corps and everyone else. they were a penny stock. the right person came along and boom, the world changed. thousands of people are now millionaires, this co. is acting the same way, although it will not change the world like msft, but, the owner know's this guy in the amazon, a missionary, so maybe they are all christians helping each other out, until we get a contract we are not going to know much, patience, and hope, this is a pennystock, but every week a pennystock makes it to the big league, do your research, msft changed people overnight in a big way, this small rinky-dink company can very easily do the same thing to all of us, [Smile] glta
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
this stock presently is worth .045, I bought at .09 - .0825 - .0790, I risk to lose 1/2 of all the money I put into this stock, this is penny stock trading though, I have made more than what I lose, I started with $450.00 a year ago and now have a portfolio of $44,000, this co. with a contract and a couple thousand bucks I invested can boost my portfolio to ???? un-imaginable. every penny stock is a risk, no one has to trade them, the arm is not being bent to trade them. I trade pennystock because of the risk. it's a form of gambling that can hit a jackpot overnight, or lose my money over time.
good luck to us all.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
no offense but it looks like a redneck site, especially with the george patton quote, i mean really what business people will use that quote as motivational, its not that classy, remember i said no offense its just my opinion, not 1.5 billion worthy, but i dont care just somehow make the pps go up and make me some money and i can excuse the website

lol.. the website is meant for truckers Tmoney. not for sophisticated web-browsers who are used to jazzy flash photographs and shockwave templates. the simpler, the better for a simple consumer, and thats what the website represents IMO.
 
Posted by 18wheels on :
 
I have a small trucking co. in cincinnati. We are watching this one closely.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Every good company has a start somewhere, this is the start of something big for FHAL.

The contract will be signed and PR'd this week as per CEOTA. As for no outside confirmation that this is in the works, you should recheck the facts. CEOTA is the outside confirmation, they are the ones issuing the contract, how much more confirmation is needed?

FHAL is on the road to success, now is the time to be in before the contract is PR'd.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Thanks AJ I was just about to point out the same facts.
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey ruskin muskin in my second post i was suggesting that the website may be for hiring purposes, who would they be hiring truckers, it was a nicer way for me to say it doesn't need to be to complicated,
 
Posted by Jason0321 on :
 
Look, about the website...its for truckers. They arent the most computer savvy people on the planet. The website is a vehicle to run the business, not to inform investors.

Now about this 1.5 billion everyone is bent out of shape about. ITS NOT THEIR MONEY!!! They have never said that THEY stand to make 1.5 billion. They simply said that there is 1.5B worth of wood at the bottom of the amazon, and they are a THIRD part logistical partner. At 260 dollars a cubic meter who knows what FHAL's cut will be.

If some of you were as savvy as you think you are, you would be on the phone asking those questions to the company instead of bickering about wheather or not a 5M company can get a 1.5B contract. Some of you dont even have the facts right.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I believe their take is going to be 15%. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that was the number talked about
 
Posted by Jason0321 on :
 
I dont know where you heard that, but i havent read that anywhere. and is that 15% of gross or net? that is what makes the differance.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
Short trigger News:

Fronthaul Group, Inc. (FHAL) SqueezeTrigger Price is $0.15. Approximately 4.8 Million Shares Shorted Since January 2005 According to ********** Research Report
Monday June 26, 9:07 am ET

ROCKWALL, TX--(MARKET WIRE)--Jun 26, 2006 -- www.********** is initiating coverage of Fronthaul Group, Inc. (OTC BB:FHAL.OB - News) after releasing the latest short sale data to June 2006. From January 2005 to June 2006 approximately 62.1 million total aggregate shares of FHAL have traded for a total dollar value of nearly $9.1 million. The total aggregate number of shares shorted in this time period is approximately 4.8 million shares. The FHAL SqueezeTrigger price of $0.15 is the volume weighted average short price of all short selling in FHAL. A short squeeze is expected to begin when shares of FHAL close above $0.15. To access SqueezeTrigger Prices ahead of potential short squeezes beginning, visit http://www.**********.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
The 15% is from the radio program, but I'm pretty sure that was based on what they've been doing (the trucker load business). The radio guys brought up that they had a low 15% profit margin and let Mark talk a little about it. I don't remember any information about what FHAL's take from the wood contract will be.
 
Posted by Jason0321 on :
 
Yeah that is from their regular trucking business. That has nothing to do with this current venture.

But not to worry, i will do the leg work. Ill post what i find.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
even 15% is like 225million correct. So if that's the worse case scenario. We'll be in great shape. IMO
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
today is gona be oh so red, low ass volume and low ass bid
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock_Feign:
today is gona be oh so red, low ass volume and low ass bid

You say that like it's a bad thing. I don't know about you but I'm going to try and load up at these levels.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
look at the no volume movement since last thursday, either shareholders are "holding" to their shares, or no one wants to do with this anymore.
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock_Feign:
look at the no volume movement since last thursday, either shareholders are "holding" to their shares, or no one wants to do with this anymore.

imo, everyone that is interested is either holding or trying to buy in a little lower (I know I'm doing both).
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
ur maybe holding, but u didnt buy anything more yet
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock_Feign:
ur maybe holding, but u didnt buy anything more yet

nope, not yet. I have a buy order in for .08. If it's going to be as red as you say it will then I have nothing to worry about. If it doesn't go down there then I'll buy at .085.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
lol there wont be no buy, red yes it will be red again...but a red arround the 9s lol
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jason0321:
Look, about the website...its for truckers. They arent the most computer savvy people on the planet. The website is a vehicle to run the business, not to inform investors.

Now about this 1.5 billion everyone is bent out of shape about. ITS NOT THEIR MONEY!!! They have never said that THEY stand to make 1.5 billion. They simply said that there is 1.5B worth of wood at the bottom of the amazon, and they are a THIRD part logistical partner. At 260 dollars a cubic meter who knows what FHAL's cut will be.

If some of you were as savvy as you think you are, you would be on the phone asking those questions to the company instead of bickering about wheather or not a 5M company can get a 1.5B contract. Some of you dont even have the facts right.

You wouldn't know the first thing about the computers in their trucks I bet.
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock_Feign:
lol there wont be no buy, red yes it will be red again...but a red arround the 9s lol

oh lol, when you said it was going to be oh so red, I thought you ment it was really going to go down. I won't buy anything at .09 or above at the moment...even if that means I don't get the shares. I have so many shares right now that I don't care if this gets filled or not.

Personally, I think it will touch, not stay, at the .08-.085 area and hopefully that will give my order enough time to fill.
 
Posted by Jason0321 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:
Originally posted by Jason0321:
Look, about the website...its for truckers. They arent the most computer savvy people on the planet. The website is a vehicle to run the business, not to inform investors.

Now about this 1.5 billion everyone is bent out of shape about. ITS NOT THEIR MONEY!!! They have never said that THEY stand to make 1.5 billion. They simply said that there is 1.5B worth of wood at the bottom of the amazon, and they are a THIRD part logistical partner. At 260 dollars a cubic meter who knows what FHAL's cut will be.

If some of you were as savvy as you think you are, you would be on the phone asking those questions to the company instead of bickering about wheather or not a 5M company can get a 1.5B contract. Some of you dont even have the facts right.

You wouldn't know the first thing about the computers in their trucks I bet.
as a matter of fact I would, but nice try. The CEO of FHAL was the one who mentioned that truckers are not that computer savvy, and knowing/working with may over the years, i would tend to agree. But yes, that was a blanket statement, but if that is the key phrase you took out of my post then it just proves my point. Good luck.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
I put a call into ceota and fhal, message machines on both, left a message so we will see if they call me back. hmm wait and see.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
welp, picked up some more today.. lets hope we get our contract sooner
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jason0321:
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:
Originally posted by Jason0321:
Look, about the website...its for truckers. They arent the most computer savvy people on the planet. The website is a vehicle to run the business, not to inform investors.

Now about this 1.5 billion everyone is bent out of shape about. ITS NOT THEIR MONEY!!! They have never said that THEY stand to make 1.5 billion. They simply said that there is 1.5B worth of wood at the bottom of the amazon, and they are a THIRD part logistical partner. At 260 dollars a cubic meter who knows what FHAL's cut will be.

If some of you were as savvy as you think you are, you would be on the phone asking those questions to the company instead of bickering about wheather or not a 5M company can get a 1.5B contract. Some of you dont even have the facts right.

You wouldn't know the first thing about the computers in their trucks I bet.
as a matter of fact I would, but nice try. The CEO of FHAL was the one who mentioned that truckers are not that computer savvy, and knowing/working with may over the years, i would tend to agree. But yes, that was a blanket statement, but if that is the key phrase you took out of my post then it just proves my point. Good luck.
Huh???
That's a big 10 roger 'der.
You's got a clear shot all the way to a dollar.
Copy 'dat hand ??
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Was today day 12 after the LOI
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
ewwww
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Goodones:
Was today day 12 after the LOI

yes, unless for some reason they meant 12-14 business days
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
the moon or bust!!!
i'm loaded up... that PR gotta be this week!
think we're at the bottom as of today on.. but even at this price it's hard to get, since the ask has been pretty much at .095 today.. june 20th was probably the best time to get more of this, but that's over.. hopefully all greens from here..
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
I am sure a contract PR is comming anyday. Just hope it comes out before XKEM has a FDA approval PR. I am 99% sure about FHAL and only 50% sure about XKEM.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
you might want to switch those percentages around..
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
If you go over to the RB and ask any questions about XKEM you only get knifes and daggers not answers.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
and XKEM isn't waiting on FDA approval, it's NAFDAC approval for Nigeria...Don't go to RB,that place is controlled by MM's..Go to the IHUB board or pennypickers.com board...RB bans people for posting positive things while the bashers get to stay and do their job..I know at least 10 XKEM longs that have been banned for trying to help new investors with their DD...check those other sites out, they'll help...better stop talking about XKEM on the FHAL board...good luck.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
its been about 2 weeks now...still no pr
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
today is day 13 from the last pr. I believe
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
hopefully it should be anytime now
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
just bought more at 0.081, look at the line up at the ask, so thin... a few buys and this is higher
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
is fhal ever gona be green...god
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
ARCA at the bid, size 300, is this good? I've read somewhere that ARCA usually works together with insiders, i don't know if that's true though... although I have seen stocks go up after ARCA was at the bid.
anyway I'll stop before people think I'm pumping
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Great support at 8 cents and no resistance till 15 cents. Just need a PR.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
bid 0.075
ask 0.08

hmm
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Poll question ... are these shorts or sells? And which one of these would be the most stupid to be doing now.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Goodones:
Poll question ... are these shorts or sells? And which one of these would be the most stupid to be doing now.

good question. The latest PR indicated that the June volume of short sells was the highest since Jan 2005 showing an average price of $0.09. With the PR on the contract coming any day now, a short sale right now seems like a death sentence. But who knows in the world of pennies.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
i got out and now its cheaper, might get back in tomorrow
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
looks like very low already.. if i haven't bought yet, i would buy now.. hopefully we get that PR tomorrow.. 14th day? or something
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
100 shares traded and uptick to .08 .. think MM's wanna let it run? they should, since we are closer and closer to that PR
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
fhal sucked my profits, i had to get out to look somewhere else, i might get back in as soon as i see better volume and movement
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
that's also wise
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock_Feign:
fhal sucked my profits, i had to get out to look somewhere else, i might get back in as soon as i see better volume and movement

what pps did you buy at, if you don't mind me asking?
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
averaged arround 9s
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
I sent this email to ceota yesterday and today fronthaul responded to my email. hold your resolve gentleman, we will be in profit any time now.

Mr. Whitmire,

This email was forwarded to me by the CEOTA. Everything is complete
between
our two companies except we are waiting for a copy of the most recent
license from Brazil. As soon as this license comes in we will sign the
contract and begin operations. We expect the license in any day now.
Thank
you for your support.


Cheers,

Mike Alexander

P.S. The negotiations are complete, The contract is ready to be signed,
There are no complications.

-----Original Message-----
>
>
> dear carl, I am investor and have invested in the fronthaul group, I
am
one of several that I communicate with on our message board, there have
been
questions that have arised I hope you can answer for me.
> is the contract still in the negotiating stage?
> is the contract about to be signed and will there be a press release
when
it is signed.
> is there complications?
> thank you in advance.
> sincerely curtis
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
any day = trying to keep the shareholders arround
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
nice.. now.. if the contract is secured, then i can breathe.. i wouldn't mind a couple of more days.. wait for more funds to settle, and grab somemore
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
nice.. now.. if the contract is secured, then i can breathe.. i wouldn't mind a couple of more days.. wait for more funds to settle, and grab somemore

I am setting my account up for a.m buy's, hang tight and dont let the bashers bring you down. right now I believe this stock according to a press release, shoulb be around .15c if I understood it right. regards
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
bought 30k more today, after reading this email I'm glad I did, I don't mind the red, it should only be temporarily... that is if there aren't any "small letters" in the PR we should be aware of [Wink]
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
Here we go
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
hmm
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
I hope every sorry sh1t head that has been shorting this stock looses everything and more!
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BullytheBear_dotcom:
Here we go

down yea
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Goodones:
I hope every sorry sh1t head that has been shorting this stock looses everything and more!

look at the wall at the bid, I don't think shorters can bring it down that much, too much support (if shorting is even possible at all, with OTC stocks). The "wall" on the ask however, [Big Grin] , there is no wall!!

0.08, 0.085, 0.095, 0.0105, 0.012, 0.0145

a good PR and this flies, that's all I'm hoping for
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
activities started again at 1pm.. i hope our news is coming out soon..
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
i dont spend to much time on this board, to negative. but this company will get there definitive agreement. just my thought.
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
I think I smell a PR.
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
oooops, pardon me, had mexican for dinner last night [Smile]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
noones budging it's a stand off
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
they said PR 12 to 14 days...nothing came out and its been more than 14 days.
maybe thats whats doing it
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea the volume appears to be stuck. It kinda gives me a warm cozy feeling though, im not the only one holding firm in this. [Wink]
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
Well as for the PR, some one got an email back from them on tuesday saying that they were waiting for the final paperwork and after they got that then things would be good to go. So, imo, it would take a day or two to get to them, and a day or two to get copies to all parties. Since that email was on tuesday I'm thinking the pr will be either today, tomorrow or monday.
 
Posted by Stock_Feign on :
 
yea i m not gona wait, there is money to make elsewhere, i was out as soon as i saw no volume for the last couple days.
when you tell your shareholders 12 to 14 days, at least stick to your words for future credibility.
thats my opinion
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea but somewhere i also read that The World Cup was literally holding up the process since Brazil is HUGE in the sport. It seems half the country has shutdown to watch. It would be nice to see someone upset them in the 2nd round so we can get this "ball rolling" [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Yea but somewhere i also read that The World Cup was literally holding up the process since Brazil is HUGE in the sport. It seems half the country has shutdown to watch. It would be nice to see someone upset them in the 2nd round so we can get this "ball rolling" [Roll Eyes]

That may be true, but if it's just paperwork that needs to get signed than I don't see this being prolonged for to much longer. I mean, they can come in at anytime just to sign the paper and send them off, even if there is no scheduled work.

I know that if I had such a big deal going through that I would want to get it signed as soon as possible.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
has anyone been able to find out who retrieved the 4600 sample logs from the Amazon on which they're basing future results? I found some information from 1999 indicating that a company called Enviro-Recovery signed an agreement with a management agency overseeing the Amazon River in South America for log retrieval rights on that river. But I wasn't able to find anything in terms of results from that. I was able to find that Enviro-Recovery has recovered a number of logs from around the MN, WI, and Canada area and used through a subsidiary, Timeless Timber, to create high quality, specialty items for various applications (like musical instruments and providing the material for high-end board rooms). They're describing the quality of the wood being pulled from the rivers as rare and with characteristics no longer found in today's woods. Such as, today's wood has 6-8 rings per inch where the logs from 100 years ago have 20-50 rings per inch.

Here is some additional information I found about log recovery in Canada by a company called Superior Water Logged Lumber Co. described as the biggest harvester of underwater timber in the world (refer to the article inset at this link). I realize this article is from 2000 but it gives you an idea of the process involved in recovery.

http://www.forestnet.com/archives/april_00/submerged.htm
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
"Bobbing for logs" [Razz]

It sounds so....trivial.

Anyway, i cant seem to find the articles i had read about the original sample logs that were recovered. I would be curious to know if FHAL is up against companies like Superior Water Logged Co though...that seems like heavy competition to me. Fronthaul could sure ease a lot of minds with just a small amount of new info!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Finding some interesting stuff about Enviro-Recovery. They actually trade on the OTC as EVRE, but it looks like there has been no trading of it since mid Feb. of this year. Based on EdgarOnline filings for 2001, they own Resource Recovery, Inc., Superior Water Logged Lumber Company, Inc., Resource Recovery of Wisconsin, Inc., and 75% of Viking Marine Inc.

The most interesting thing is that they have (had?) a big position in Brazilian timber recovery. The most interesting is their Amazon River position. From the filing:
On June 14, 2000, the Company entered into a joint venture with
EcoWood, Ltd., providing Enviro-Recovery with the rights to submerged
logs in the Amazon River and tributaries in the State of Para.
According to EcoWood representations in the joint venture agreement,

1) there is between 10 and 60 million cubic meters of logs in the
areas covered by the recovery licenses based on EcoWood research and

2) EcoWood has rights to recover the logs from the Amazon River
system. Under the joint venture agreement, EcoWood shall recover and
process logs exclusively for Enviro-Recovery. Enviro-Recovery will
finance log retrieval and milling operations and develop export
markets for the environmentally safe wood products. Enviro-Recovery
retains the earnings of the joint venture. The Company loaned EcoWood,
Ltd. $123,400 for business development which is included in other
assets at September 30, 2000.



Sounds like they were looking to do the exact thing that FHAL is looking to do.

I'll continue to read the filings and see what else is in there.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Sounds like Enviro-Recovery was subjected to a hostile take-over and requested their stock to be de-listed. Some are saying this is why they didn't recover any logs from the Amazon.

http://www.timelesstimber.com/news/view-article.php?id=15
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Sounds like Enviro-Recovery was subjected to a hostile take-over and requested their stock to be de-listed. Some are saying this is why they didn't recover any logs from the Amazon.

http://www.timelesstimber.com/news/view-article.php?id=15

Really makes me wonder who the hostile takeover attempt was by . . . is it possible that this is somehow tied to FHAL? The timing sure isn't that far off.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I can't find anything that points to that, but who knows.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockstar:
Well as for the PR, some one got an email back from them on tuesday saying that they were waiting for the final paperwork and after they got that then things would be good to go. So, imo, it would take a day or two to get to them, and a day or two to get copies to all parties. Since that email was on tuesday I'm thinking the pr will be either today, tomorrow or monday.

yes I am the one that got the email, mike said they had everything done, all agreements with the contract etc, no complications, just needed one (1) more license and anyday would have it. would not surprise me to see the definitive agreement by monday or tuesday.
as far as the wait goes, this will explode at the pr of that agreement.
I have never with any company seen an LOI turn into an agreement on time. they alway's have been 2 weeks to 6 months past the expected date.
if this turns into an agreement even 5 months from now it will ad a serious amount of money to your portfolio for the year. I only invest what I can afford per stock, if, I need to hold out for awhile.
squeeze trigger price at .15c after that nothing will stop this company, with a pr it will go way beyond that price.
regards
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
I'm not bashing this stock (would be stupid, I have a long position in this), but if this were "the greatest deal ever", wouldn't more people be buying into this? I always like to think that estimating a price goes hand in hand with the amount of faith we see in trading this stock (volume). How will this ever go higher than $0.20 if we have such low volume?
I need some reaffirming words [Smile]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I think some people are waiting on confirmation of that LOI becomming a real contract. I think if they pr it being signed it'll attract a bunch of buyers
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
I don't think a lot of people are even aware of this stock right now. Once it starts making a move higher, it will appear on a lot of people's radars. imo
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
Be lucky that you found FHAL at these levels..I think we are headed much higher .20+ soon..just my opinion but I have continued to add at these prices
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 

 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
when a pr comes out that there is a contract, fhal will attract a whole different group of investors, you can bet there are a bunch of news chasers out there watching this one closely. the investors this will attract on the contract will not be afraid to spend .20, 1.00, 10.00 or even 100.00 per share.
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
100.00 a share, well if your going to dream, dream big, heck, even .30 a share would make me happy, at 1.00 a share I might go to europe on vacation, at 100.00 a share I'll buy a hell of a new house!
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MHampton:
100.00 a share, well if your going to dream, dream big, heck, even .30 a share would make me happy, at 1.00 a share I might go to europe on vacation, at 100.00 a share I'll buy a hell of a new house!

LOL, would be nice, however, 1.5 bil contract anything is possible, but at least fhal will have those type of investor's looking.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
In regards to the draw (or lack thereof) of investors currently, I agree that the PR on the contract is a big deal. After all, we don't really know what the impact will be to FHAL's top or bottom line. The LOI PR indicated that "The Fronthaul Group's specific area of responsibility could yield a potential of $1,500,000,000 in gross revenue." This statement is based on what the raw material is valued at as MBF. That revenue is not Fronthauls - it's whoever has rights to the logs. Fronthaul will be paid based on whatever their fees are in regards to this part of the PR: "The Fronthaul Group will arrange the complete third party logistics life cycle including but not limited to; arranging log retrieval and milling operations and developing export markets for the environmentally safe wood products." My opinion is that this is no small effort and FHAL will probably be rewarded nicely for overseeing this project. But there is no information to help support what those rewards will look like - not in dollars, anyway. Obviously, the shear volume of estimated logs provides us with some idea of the potential, though. Hopefully, the contract PR will help answer some of our questions.
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
Good luck guys:

ROCKWALL, TX -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 06/29/06 -- Market News First will release breaking news regarding a multi-million dollar contract
between The Fronthaul Group, Inc. (OTCBB: FHAL) and non-profit organization The Climate Exchange of the America’s Inc. (CEOTA) on Wednesday, July 6, 2006 at 2:00PM Central Time on its website, ***.com.

The live broadcast is available to anyone with internet access and who can download the free player at www.***.com enabling them to listen in for management's review of operations and discussion of future prospects.


About Fronthaul:


Fronthaul is an Internet-based, business-to-business information exchange that provides a centralized database of freight load information accessible by wireless device or
through the Internet. With branches in Rockwall, Texas, The Fronthaul Group is a Delaware corporation and is expected to grow their business specifically in the areas of 3rd Party
Logistics (3PL), Transportation Brokerage, and Motor Carrier services.


About Market News First:


Being the only online destination that brings real
blow-by-blow information and analysis on micro-cap news,
***.com features live press conferences, live interviews and
exclusive investment news.


***.com gives micro-cap investors the information source
necessary to trade in the markets. ***.com boasts being the
largest true news company reporting on micro-cap traded
stocks.


In addition to live interaction with companies from the
Bulletin Board, Pink Sheets and Amex, *** has All-Day Live
Trading Commentary, Analyst Profiles, Interactive Forums,
News Items and The Micro****. *** **** features opinions,
thoughts and comments of Michael A. Willingham and Andrew
Coffee along with other participants giving the latest on
micro-cap invests and trends.


Market News First will turn the average investor into a more
decisive, profitable investor, by answering micro-cap
investors' questions before they are even asked.


Contact:
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Posted by renrob05 on :
 
John, is this contract new? or does everyone know about it already?
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
 -

The Fronthaul Group Will Be Live on ***.com on Wednesday July 6th at 2:00PM CDT

ROCKWALL, TX, Jun 29, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Market News First will release breaking news regarding a multi-million dollar contract between The Fronthaul Group, Inc. (OTCBB: FHAL) and non-profit organization The Climate Exchange of the America's Inc. (CEOTA) on Wednesday, July 6, 2006 at 2:00PM Central Time on its website, ***.com.

Hmmmmm,,,,,,wonder what the breaking news could be?  -

Also have to wonder how those that sold the 4.8M shares short are feeling about now.  -
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
I don't think they'll do a press conference only to hear a grumpy old man say "emmmm, the deal didn't go through" "WHAT????" LOL
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
shorters.. if there are any still have time to cover.. hehe.. and make it run =)
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
aj and lostone, I'm with you guys, like I said before, seems to me that shorting this as of late would be a death sentence.

On another note, the reason I posted the information about Enviro-Recovery is because we should all be aware of the other opportunities this represents with other companies. FHAL is orchestrating this effort. The question is - with who? Many other companies will reap rewards from this venture.

Thanks for the PR, John. Looking forward to the run.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
o.k. guy's. mtpromises is right, I will immediately start looking into the question of other companies, a piece of each company = 1.5 billion consertively, sweet, see, I told you guy's to hold, patience, is the only way, no more laughing at me, huh.
we need to thank john and juice both for keeping there eye's open for us and being on top of the news. regards
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
can't wait
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
This sounds great but July 6th 2006 is not on Wednesday. They need to correct this. And there will probaly be a public PR before this I would think.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
2 upticks on NO volume, niiiice, can you imagine what it does if a good PR comes out?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
it's going....
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
a little buying pressure and this thing will explode
 
Posted by ArmySGT on :
 
June 30, 2006 - 10:45 AM EDT

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/CORRECTION - The Fronthaul Group, Inc.
In the news release, "The Fronthaul Group Will Be Live on ***.com on Wednesday July 6th at 2:00PM CDT," issued Thursday, June 29, 2006, by The Fronthaul Group, Inc. (OTCBB: FHAL), we are advised by the company that the headline and the first sentence of the first paragraph should read "Wednesday July 5, 2006" rather than "Wednesday July 6, 2006" as originally issued. Complete corrected text follows.

The Fronthaul Group Will Be Live on ***.com on Wednesday July 5th at 2:00PM CDT

ROCKWALL, TX -- June 29, 2006 -- Market News First will release breaking news regarding a multi-million dollar contract between The Fronthaul Group, Inc. (OTCBB: FHAL) and non-profit organization The Climate Exchange of the America's Inc. (CEOTA) on Wednesday July 5, 2006 at 2:00PM Central Time on its website, ***.com.

The live broadcast is available to anyone with internet access and who can download the free player at www.***.com enabling them to listen in for management's review of operations and discussion of future prospects.

About Fronthaul:

Fronthaul is an Internet-based, business-to-business information exchange that provides a centralized database of freight load information accessible by wireless device or through the Internet. With branches in Rockwall, Texas, The Fronthaul Group is a Delaware corporation and is expected to grow their business specifically in the areas of 3rd Party Logistics (3PL), Transportation Brokerage, and Motor Carrier services.

About Market News First:

Being the only online destination that brings real blow-by-blow information and analysis on micro-cap news, ***.com features live press conferences, live interviews and exclusive investment news.

***.com gives micro-cap investors the information source necessary to trade in the markets. ***.com boasts being the largest true news company reporting on micro-cap traded stocks.

In addition to live interaction with companies from the Bulletin Board, Pink Sheets and Amex, *** has All-Day Live Trading Commentary, Analyst Profiles, Interactive Forums, News Items and The Micro****. *** **** features opinions, thoughts and comments of Michael A. Willingham and Andrew Coffee along with other participants giving the latest on micro-cap invests and trends.

Market News First will turn the average investor into a more decisive, profitable investor, by answering micro-cap investors' questions before they are even asked.


Source: Market Wire (June 30, 2006 - 10:45 AM EDT)

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Posted by curmire5 on :
 
in this pr this say's contract between fhal and ceota, the news is contract.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
hardly any of the stocks are doing much, going into the july 4th week-end. good thing to have the news come out on wed the 5th.
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
3rd'll be the last day to buy in cheap, imo. Any guesses as to where the pps'll be -- assuming that the contract's good -- on the afternoon of the 7th?
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
The PR also says multi-million...not billion. Seems like they are saying the contract is done, but we won't PR it until this radio conference. Maybe *** has a deal with them or something.

I'm hoping to buy a little more Mon.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
milliam, scribbler, the contract is done, that is why in the last pr the say contract between fhal and ceota instead of proposed contract. the multi-million hopefully means hundreds of millions, guess we have to wait to find out, there isn't that much of exposure on this stock though, maybe *** has a following or something, anyway, any kind of a contract for this company is positive because the overhead is so little. I am going to purchase more but have to wait for more funds to clear, it will be my 4th purchase of this stock. hang in there guy's, if the stock begins to tank after the pr on 7/5/06 I am going to dump 50%, but I have a hunch that it is not going to tank, we have a winner here..
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
I have not seen a stock this good for about 8 mos. excellent numbers all around, even if the contract price is small. but rest assured the contract price is going to try to push in the hundred millions. regards
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
I believe the "shorters" have left the building.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
I expected it to rise a lot faster though, look at NDOL when they announced a possible buyout deal, it went up from $0.20 to $0.70 in anticipation, and then when the actual PR came with the buyout price of $2.17 it went to $1.50. Some say pump or dump, I won't express my views on that, but my point is it rose the whole time, this stock however hovers around 0.085-9, even though the line up at the ask is very thin. Could be because it's hard to predict a target price here (NDOL had numbers, and some math would bring accurate pps predictions)

Meh I won't complain, maybe that will make me look stupid next week [Big Grin]

Have a great weekend all
 
Posted by sukkaseeker on :
 
CEOTA has the exclusive license to recover logs from a 100 mile stretch of the Amazon River in Brazil. Experts have determined through sonar analysis and measured navigational hazards there are at least 6,000,000 cubic meters of easily recoverable wood.

This wood is very resilient to water and only the outer layers are affected. CEOTA is actively working towards recovery of this wood as experts have determined that for each log recovered there will be an equivalent to 35 living trees that will be saved from destruction thus saving valuable acres of existing rainforest.

AND...

CEOTA has 200,000 acres under contract in Brazil to reforest with native trees which will restore the natural habitat to the area.

...is it possible that the contract is about moving trees???

see website:http://www.ceota.com/logrecovery.html
 
Posted by ArmySGT on :
 
The Fronthaul Group will arrange the complete third party logistics life cycle including but not limited to; arranging log retrieval and milling operations and developing export markets for the environmentally safe wood products.

Something out of their LOI statement, so probably.
 
Posted by curmire5 on :
 
well, we have a contract, but we do not no the terms or dollar value, the LOI say's 1.5 bil and the pr say's multi-mil. but even if the multi-mil is 5% of 1.5 bil, this should move this stock way way up^ I seen a stock with low volume move from .005 to 2.48 on a 20 mil deal. I like how everyone is holding.
and with being on the short list that means all the 22 million shares have been purchased and nothing needs to be sold, just change hands for a higher dollar amount.
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Only buys today so far. Wednesday will be amazing.
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Goodones:
Only buys today so far. Wednesday will be amazing.

Why should wed. be amazing?

Why not today?
Why not last friday?
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
because wed they release news of the contract in an interview held on m n 1 .com
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
such a thin line up at the ask, i love it [Smile] [Smile]

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Posted by Hannibull on :
 
0.10 x 0.11 !
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
I'm really getting pumped now. If it is going up this much in anticipation of a pr, think of what the actual pr will do.

I'm in at around .08ish and can't wait for the pr.
Hopefully It will do what I think it will do.
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
Lets not forget, the report out in May (before this latest contract) valued the company at 40 CENTS a share! So all signs are pointing to being way undervalued at these levels. Should be a nice ride upwards [Smile]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
geez, i didn't know the market opens today.. i wanted to get more fhal at .09 too.. o well.. good to see it up anyway..
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I couldn't help but notice that someone dumped 130,000 shares today at 0.087 . . . I wonder how they're feeling right now? [Smile]
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Where is the exposure on this one. This could be potentially huge unless some part of the puzzle is missing. The news is supposed to come out at 2:00 correct, meaning it would make sense to buy on a dip before then, or wait until 2:00 and buy if the numbers are good
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Where is the exposure on this one. This could be potentially huge unless some part of the puzzle is missing. The news is supposed to come out at 2:00 correct, meaning it would make sense to buy on a dip before then, or wait until 2:00 and buy if the numbers are good

the exposure on this has been very low, think traders have it on the scope for speculation.
wait and see. I am in and hope it does well.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Looks like FHAL is going to be on M N 1 for a full hour today. I'm guessing they will be taking questions from people during this time. Hopefully they come out and tell us all we need to know up front.

I'm going to try and listen to the whole thing, but since it will be during work time, I won't be able to post what's going on with it.

Anyone think we'll get a dip down today? My money has finally cleared and I'm looking to pick up some more shares. I just don't know where to try and get them.

Milliam
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
milliam, do you have a link please? thanks much!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I'll try, but Allstock doesn't like to show it.

dubya dubya dubya dot m n 1 dot com
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
this is looking good this morning bid and ask keep rising. With little volume
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
I'll try, but Allstock doesn't like to show it.

dubya dubya dubya dot m n 1 dot com

...ok i feel stupid now [Big Grin] haha
thanks for the link
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
this thing is moving this morning
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Well unfortunately, I bit the bullet and got in to quickly today, in at .13

let's see about that 2:00 conference now....
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
Have you guys heard if there is another pr coming out soon that would say the contract is completed?
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
It is amazing how there is hardly any attention to this stock, when in the PR it says the conference is going to announce their MULTIMILLION dollar contract? What's the deal, I would think this stock would be running like crazy.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Anyone think the MM's would drop this down right before the radio show? Kind of like they did before the LOI.
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
It is amazing how there is hardly any attention to this stock, when in the PR it says the conference is going to announce their MULTIMILLION dollar contract? What's the deal, I would think this stock would be running like crazy.

What I don't get is how is this going to get out to the masses? Are they going to release a pr at the same time as the iterview, after it or the day after it.
Has anyone heard if there will be a pr with this news?
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
nice support at 0.12, 5MMs [Big Grin]
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Anyone think the MM's would drop this down right before the radio show? Kind of like they did before the LOI.

IMHO, even if they drop it a bit, I don't think this will go lower then .115. I'm betting it will never see that level and will stay above .12.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Nice volume today so far, if they release another PR with #'s in it, this should run like crazy. The conference is at 2 central, meanign 3 eastern, so it may be an EOD run with a gap up tomorrow.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Just watch it...get in before 2:45 IMO
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Bit the bullet and got in at .122.

Now lets see what the radio broadcast brings.

Good luck to everyone.

Milliam
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey guys flipped this one for a nice bit, but got a question, XKEM and FHAL or both good and are both expecting something big today or tomorrow, i was wondering any suggestions on which one to play, i am in xkem right now
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
XKEM has already had a HUGE run..FHAL on the other hand is just getting started. I mean it has just come off it's lows for the year. I'd rather be getting in near the bottom then near the top. Just my 2 cents...or should I say .125 cents. lol
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
900,000 volume mid day, not bad....with a PR release giving # figures of the contract, this is really going to fly. I'm looking for .18-.20 short term
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
Short squeeze trigger at .15 [Smile]
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey got back in, what time is the call today and in what time zone, is anybody gonna tune in and keep us posted
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
Tmoney, tune in on www . enn emm one (spelled) . com (without spaces), the Press Conference call is at 2PM
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
thanks i sure hope this is something big, i sure could use it
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
time zone is 2:00 central, so 3:00 eastern. Damn what happened to this? I'm in at .13 shouldn't be moving down.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
I think its an MM shake, get all the cheap shares they can before it runs
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
People have been loading up, which is why we hit .135 today. It is only 1 pm CST right now.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
so the interview is in one hour? I need to know cause I gotta go mow the lawn lol

*edit* nvm bully answered my question [Smile]
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
can't wait for this [Smile]
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Hope it's good...I am afraid people will seel in a panic if it's not "billions"...if they do, I'll load up some more
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
In the PR it states multi million contract, now we just have to see how much that is [Smile]
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
T-minus 50 minutes until the start of the conference..NITE has been bidding all day, that's usually a good sign
 
Posted by azizalk on :
 
getting close
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
this is still relatively close to the 52w low, so that gives me confidence. Also the fact that if you look at the chart it spiked to 0.30 WITHOUT this news.

Does anyone know if there's a big short position that needs to be covered? The key statistics page on yahoo doesn't show any numbers
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
This stock was given a .40 price target in May, before the CEOTA contract by the research firm Tri-State Capital...so where should we be after this contract?
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
Price: 0.11
Bid: 0.115
Ask: 0.1225
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Let's get this moving soon! [Smile] We may run into a contract postponement, but when the numbers come out...wow
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
I like how this contract is with CEOTA..not some fly by not company or organization. Definitely big for credibility.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Spread closing.... .12x.1225
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
they keep dropping the bid on buys...MM's trying to get those shares...oh yea
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
Or it might be people realizing they aren't gonna get cheap shares and changing their bids to buy at the ask price
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
they keep dropping the bid on buys...MM's trying to get those shares...oh yea

and there are people that keep giving in to it
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
That's fine...when the contract #'s are out this will be very nice to us, we may have to wait longer then today for those #'s though...thats why i dont think they put out a PR, just a conference to talk about it, the more I think about it.
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
PR tomorrow on the numbers maybe?
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Possibly...I think Friday is more likely....I'm goign to hold until at least .18-.20
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
will anyone be on the call and providing updates while they're listening?
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
5 Minutes now....bid moved up...still need tighter spread
 
Posted by stockinthemud on :
 
Another Step Towards The Preservation of The Rainforest…
Posted on Wednesday, July 05 * 13:09:03 CDT

Another Step Towards The Preservation of The Rainforest…
By Katia Rodriguez

Rockwall, TX (7/5/2006): From Chico Mendes, Francisco Alves Mendes Filho, the Brazilian rubber tapper, unionist and environmental activist who fought to stop the logging of the Amazon Rainforest and was later murdered for his efforts, to Modern environmental and ecological preservation organizations, all have one mission, preserving the rainforest.

The Fronthaul Group ( FHAL) announced on June 14, 2006 that it has signed an Letter of Intent to provide third party logistics for the Climate Exchange of the Americas, Inc. (CEOTA) over their exclusive Brazilian license to recover sunken logs from the Amazon River and its tributaries. The activated license includes over a 100 miles segment of the river near the mouth of the city of Belém, Pará, Brazil. This area has been identified as a real problem area by the Brazilian government; after this area has been rectified the license can be expanded to the rest of the Amazon River system.

The Fronthaul Group is a publicly held Delaware corporation with branch offices in Rockwall, TX. The Fronthaul Group expects to grow their business specifically in the areas of 3rd party logistics, which includes but is not limited too Transportation Brokerage and Motor Carrier services.

Over the past century, legal an illegal logging has taken a toll on the world’s rain forests. Loggers would go into the Forest and begin massive logging operations, these operations would quickly surpass the jungle road infrastructure, so the practice of floating logs down the river to the saw mills or other final destinations became commonplace. A side effect of this process was that many logs became water logged and sank to the bottom of the river while they were floating them to the mills. Once they sank to the bottom of the river they went into a type of “stasis” due to the lack of oxygen and microorganisms. These logs are almost as good today as they were the day they were cut from the forest floor. The positive side is that there is enough timber lying at the bottom of the river to sustain a global economy for an undetermined period of time.

The Fronthaul Group will arrange the complete third party logistics life cycle including the arrangement of retrieving the sunken logs, the milling operations and developing export markets for the environmentally safe wood products. The timber will be certified as “SmartWood” and sold all over the world. The Fronthaul group and the non-profit organization, CEOTA, will split a percentage of the profits for this project. “We have identified several potential partners in this venture already, but would certainly entertain offers from any other organizations wanting to work with us on this project.” say Mike Alexander, CEO of the Fronthaul Group.

"The Fronthaul Group's initial area of responsibility could yield upwards of $1,500,000,000 in gross revenue, and there is no estimating what the potential is for the remainder of the river and its tributaries. Conservative estimates project 2.6 billion board feet of easily recoverable first grade lumber under our initial phase of this contract, our children may be recovering the timber from this river under the rest of this license" says Gordon Brown, Director of CEOTA, a non-profit organization dedicated to the preservation of the rainforest.

“There are literally millions, some estimates as high as several billion logs that have sunk to the bottom of the Amazon River and it’s tributaries. We intend to assemble an International team of companies to come in and help remove these hazards, improve the underwater ecosystem, employ the locals, stimulate the local economy, and hopefully eliminate the navigation problem in the river, while increasing shareholder value,” Mike Alexander.

Experts hired by the Brazilian Government have determined through sonar analysis and measured navigational hazards there are at least 6,000,000 cubic meters of easily recoverable wood in the area affected by the license and 10–60 million cubic meters of lost timber throughout the rest of the Amazon River System. CEOTA is actively working towards recovery of this wood as experts have determined that for each log recovered there will be an equivalent to saving 37 living trees that will be saved from destruction thus saving valuable acres of existing rainforest.

“This license is given as a public utility in Brazil which means we have the complete support of the Brazilian government including but not limited to military support for the protection of the resources and personnel,” Gordon Brown Director of CEOTA.

Mr. Brown also stated, “Fund Amazon had this license renewed every year since 1999 and have already renewed the license for this year, we were just waiting for the World Cup to be finished so that we could arrange for a hard copy of the new license to be copied and sent to our offices. At this point in time, that is the only factor we are waiting on before the Fronthaul Group and CEOTA sign the contract and move forward and close this deal.”

“Here is an opportunity for everyone to make a statement about Deforestation and Global Warming. Buy this wood, it’s as high quality or better than the quality of wood on todays market. Furniture, yacht, specialty wood companies etc. should insist on using this wood. Send a message that you want your product to be built from environmentally conscience providers. Support those organizations making the environment a priority,” states Mr. Alexander.

The Fronthaul Group CEO, Mike Alexander will be live on ***.com on Wednesday July 5th at 2:00PM CDT.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
They are killing the bid for no reason
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
tensions are high, people trading at the wrong time, might lose a penny.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
they are 3 minutes late, wait...... we are getting started.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Here we go...
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Sounds like the contract has not been signed due to the license not being in hand (they say its been renewed, but they don't have it in hand).
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
CEOTA rep there along with them confirming about contract will be signed as soon as they receive the license from brazil.. license renewal already applied, just waiting to receive, that much so far
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Correct, CEOTA confirms they are signing the contract with FHAL....that's why the CEOTA and Fronthaul are on the line.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Expandable contract...current contract covers 100 miles (narrowest point is 2-5 miles). Port authority controls all of the Amazon. The license will be expanded to the full Amazon (in Brazil) once things are going good. CEOTA has control of the whole license.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
the license is THE ONLY license known.. so they are pretty much exclusive with this
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
CEOTA has been taken to court in the past by the old logging companies. The logging companies claimed that they owned the logs since they lost them, but courst have sided with CEOTA in all cases.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
These prices are such a bargain...going to be huge when the contract is sign and the #'s are out.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
market not responding so well tho.. ppl are just impatient
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
FHAL rep is talking about a past company failing to do their side of an old contract for this.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
CEOTA guy is very excited to be working with FHAL.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
May go down a bit...but when contract hits this is .20 stock....i'll wait for next week [Smile]
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
Dropping on low volume...ridiculous
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Enviro-recovery...CEOTA guy says they couldn't get their funding for the old contract.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
This isn't a big deal, contract will be ready within the next 30 days according to CEO....easy double from here in the short term.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
FHAL has 3 partners that will come in to remove and manage the logs. These are house hold names and they will be providing the capital to make this program happen.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
No contracts are finished with any of these contractors.

Can start off with as little as 1/4 mill. Partners they have are well over 100mill.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
FHAL rep is talking about a past company failing to do their side of an old contract for this.

I'm guesing that was Enviro-Recovery
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Seven figure revenue on an annual basis!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Some wood that goes for $3800 per board foot!!!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
So looking anywhere from 1-9 million in revenues added
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
FHAL thinks within 6 months from the operation starting, their bottom line will start showing benefits.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
So looking anywhere from 1-9 million in revenues added

per year? any idea how many years?
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
annually...didn't catch the years...
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Lots of soccer talk...Brazil shut down due to the cup.

Hopefully within the week the license will be re-activated.

FHAL will start signing contracts at that point. FHAL has hand-shake deals with partners now.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
No mention of years that I heard.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
FHAL and CEOTA guys are gone. The next 30 minutes is just going to be the stock guys talking about them.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
well, *** will give us the math estimation.. i'll listen
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Here's one of the m n 1 analyst's take on FHAL:

http://tinyurl.com/eolyd
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
potential following contracts after that 100mile in the initial contract
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
1.5 billion of revenue for FHAL...soo many years...and it the process is supposed to be profitable.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
These guys are just rambling on. Nothing of note really coming out.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
I think huge long term stock !!!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
They were terrible. Everytime the on guy tried to get some useful info out the other two starting joking around. What a waste. They are terrible hosts. Will just have to wait a week of so until they get the licensing agreement in hand which sounded more like a formality than anything else.
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
I just wish the stock price would move along with the potential of the company.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
just once that contract is signed.. *sigh*.. i guess i can wait, we all should be well off..
 
Posted by azizalk on :
 
looking fishyyyyyyyyyy
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
okay...trash this stock, so you can get in at lower prices lol...it doesn't matter...i'll be banking within the next two weeks-month
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
The call seemed like confirmation of a lot of good things to come - but one wouldn't know it based on EOD . . . finished down 8%.
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
Sounds like a lot of good info came out of the conference. The analyst report reaffirmed the .40 cent price target
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
This seems like a fine wine that gets better with aging. A lot of good news seems to on the way very shortly. Glad I was able to buy in at a decent price. Once the licensing is annouced and the other contracts signed and names of the companies involved this will rise nicely. According to what I heard from the principles and the guy from CEOTA this is a done deal. I wait for the PR's. Sound like things are going well.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
This stock is very volatile...I'm going to put my sell order in at .20 and check back on it in a month...i'm sure it won't be there anymore [Smile]
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
This stock is very volatile...I'm going to put my sell order in at .20 and check back on it in a month...i'm sure it won't be there anymore [Smile]

Just dont cry when you see a dollar for a price
 
Posted by weatherbill on :
 
i'll see you guys at the next support at .09

that *** radio report was news and folks will sell on that and buy back in later......MACD not looking good in the short or sto or rsi

but if you're long, should do well.....lots of holding should keep the price from dipping too deep
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
holding on for the nice upcoming ride...this isn't a daytrade...gotta hold for at least two weeks. Anyways I shot an email over to PR department with some questions...I'll let you know when they get back to me. Remember, this Amazon project isn't the only thing they do..
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Looks like we're in for a mighty slow day. At least the price should hold up here.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
0.08 x 0.085
well, looks like people will have yet another opportunity to get in at low prices. Seems so odd that we can't get any sustained momentum with this stock.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i sure grabbed some more at .08
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Bah, i guess ill jump on the bandwagon. Jumped in for more at .082. Why not? [Smile]
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
I'm still in at .13.....and happy as can be.

This is a two week-one month hold, and you'll at least double your money IMO
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Dang...wish I would have waited for today now...shoulda, woulda, coulda!

I'll have to look into getting some more tomorrow if it stays this low or lower!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Dang...wish I would have waited for today now...shoulda, woulda, coulda!

I'll have to look into getting some more tomorrow if it stays this low or lower!

The pr could be a while from now and I expect excitement to diminish in the next days, traders will get out to use that money in other plays so I'm going to wait to buy back in, perhaps I'll get some at 0.07 in the next weeks.

I could be wrong of course [Wink] but I've seen other stocks do this, when excitement stops it goes down real slow, not much but why buy at 0.085 when a few days later you can have it at 0.07 y'know. Not bashing here, I like this stock and I want to be in 100% when the pr is released [Big Grin] Sold all my shares yesterday at 0.128, 0.13 and 0.135
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
smart move.. i wish i was that smart yesterday.. o well..
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
this seems to be holding pretty steady here.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
smart move.. i wish i was that smart yesterday.. o well..

greed is a nasty animal isnt it? everyone has it. Ive been greedy so many times, being up $500 in a stock, thinking its going to go much higher, only to see it fall down a few seconds later, and then I'm red $300... it happened too many times so now when I see a profit I take it. Dont panic though, once the pr hits and we see good numbers it should fly
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
we should email the environmentalists about this project.. through them, we could probably gain a lot of publicity for FHAL .. =)
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
we should email the environmentalists about this project.. through them, we could probably gain a lot of publicity for FHAL .. =)

I'll call my tree hugging hippy friends! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Keep an eye on this next week....
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
very light volume
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
That's because no one is selling.....lots of holding now...people know when the news starts coming out this could be anywhere from the .20-.50 range within a month
 
Posted by jukemaster01 on :
 
cant trade on scottrade anymore... called them and said not able to due to court hearings, or something like that.. new to all this, figuring this is bad, but just how bad?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jukemaster01:
cant trade on scottrade anymore... called them and said not able to due to court hearings, or something like that.. new to all this, figuring this is bad, but just how bad?

I have Scottrade and don't have any problem buying or selling. There are no poeted restrictions from the Scottrade site. I also know from previous conversations with Scottrade that they never give reasons for trading restrictions. I've called on a few that I was interested in buying in the past and they will never tell you why only that you can place trades through the broker.

Are you trying to get people to SELL?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Wally did you listen to the interview the other day? I got the impression that when they sign the contract they will start finalizing other contracts and hopefully we would start to get a steady release of pr's. Did you get the same impression?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Yes that was the impression that I got too. They did make it seem that as soon as the renewal is signed that everything else will happen in quick order. They also talked of high profile companies being involved with this project. He said names that everyone would recognize. I think we will have a nice sustained run once the RP's start flowing.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I know I heard them say that they think this can affect their bottom line in as little as 6 months from the start of operations. To the tune of 7 figures a year of sustained profit just for fhal.
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
Moving back up now [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
very nice. I was gone this afternoon and it was good to see this hold its ground and even finish up for the day. Lots of buys in the last half hour.

Stocktrader,
0.20 to 0.50 would be nice for all holding here. At this point, we still don't know what the PR on the contract holds in store - we may blow right through that. Time will tell.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
From investors hub:


New numbers on Total Float:

OS 67,374,721 as per TA

from def 14C dated 4-13-2006 latest filing.
Mike Alexander owns 78.1% of outstanding shares which includes his right of conversion of 500,000 shares of preferred stock at 100 shares common for each share of preferred resulting in 50,000,000 shares of common.
This is quote from last quarterly filing 10QSB for quarter ending 3-31-2006. "On August 26, 2005, the anniversary date of this recapitalization, the Company elected not to buy back the preferred shares resulting in the preferred shareholders being granted the right to convert this preferred stock into an aggregate amount of 50,000,000 common shares." (labeled NOTE 5 in 10QSB for period end 3-31-2006)

THEREFORE:
TA reports OS as 67,374,721 and adding the 50,000,000 shares because the filing said that his 78.1% included his rights of conversion shares.........implies........he owns 78.1% of 117,374,721 shares or 91,669,657 shares. However he has not taken up the option to convert so he owns 41,669,657 common and 500,000 shares preferred, as of 4-13-2006.

Randy Moseley, Chief Financial Officer beneficially owns 300,000 shares, per def 14C. Also an officer so his shares are restricted.

On February 7, 2006, the Company issued 100,000 shares of its restricted common stock for consulting services to the Andrew Austin Group, which the Company valued at $12,500. The shares were issued in reliance upon Section 4(2) under the Securities Act of 1933.

On March 13, 2006, the Company issued 232,000 shares of its restricted common stock for consulting services to Lionheart Associates, Inc., which the Company valued at $20,880. The shares were issued in reliance upon Section 4(2) under the Securities Act of 1933.

There have been 2,780,405 shares repurchased by the Company from December 2005 to March 31, 2006 and were purchased in open-market transactions.

Which means these 2,780,405 shares are also not in the float.

FLOAT EQUALS
67,374,721 Outstanding per TA
-41,669,657 Mike Alexander...restricted
- 300,000 Randy Moseley...restricted
- 100,000 Andrew Austin Group...restricted
- 232,000 Lionheart Associates...restricted
- 2,780,405 Company Repurchased

22,292,659 Total Float Shares

I believe these numbers are as close as can be figured from available information.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
nice numbers.. can't wait for that PR this week
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Don't get to excited...I think we'll see that PR next monday [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Don't get to excited...I think we'll see that PR next monday [Smile]

why next Monday?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
next monday as in today? or next week's monday? lol.. i think today.. but we'll see.. i'm not really betting on today, but the sooner the better..
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
We will get a PR at the end of the week or next monday IMO...things in business usually are never on time. With a float around 22M and many holding....this thing will explode
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
This isn't a big deal, contract will be ready within the next 30 days according to CEO....easy double from here in the short term.

Trader, I'd like to hear something by Monday, but looks like it's possible we won't hear anything until the end of the month based on your post above.

I talked to a friend of mine who is a huge soccer fan and he said that it is against the law for businesses to be open in Brazil during the World Cup. I don't know to what extent this is true but even if it's partially true, it's understandable why the contract issuance was being delayed. Besides, if Enviro-Recovery had received approval in the past to recover logs from the Amazon, I don't know why FHAL wouldn't get that same opportunity. I'm just making these comments because I don't think there is necessarily anything "fishy" going on here as one previous post had eluded to.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Here we go...next leg up now...bid .099 ask .10 with last 40,000 getting hit at the ask
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
blocks of 10k shares.. they should move up the ask ... and doesn't look like PR today.. o well.. everyone is holding..
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
price still at 0.10 but the bid dropped to 0.09
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
It's fine guys...price is holding with no PR, it'll be coming, patience here is necessary...like I said in a month it could be anywhere from .20-.50

it looks good
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
I believe it will be a lot more then .20-.50 .
I seen 20 mil contracts get their shares to 2.48, and they were not ongoing, they were one time gigs.
 
Posted by BullytheBear_dotcom on :
 
I'm looking for .40+ in the near future [Smile]
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
yah Im bummed, I thought at 0.082 it would go down again to pre-interview levels (0.07), guess I was wrong! heh, but thats a good sign! shows theres a lot of support
 
Posted by azizalk on :
 
Today is very important
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
0.11 x 0.119 and 20,000 premarket trade at 0.119, damn NICE!
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
.12 x .125 to open.

Something's up.
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
.13

Volume exploding....
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
being brought down by small trades though.. o well.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
yah, that burst was quick - already back to 0.10 x 0.11

but almost 400,000 shares in the first 15 minutes - interesting
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
Very strange...activity's slacked off now. Back to waiting, although perhaps not long.
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
Jumpy... .12 x .125
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by scribbler:
Jumpy... .12 x .125

yah, what the hell? . . . roughly another 60,000 shares
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Crazy it's all over the place
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
the set up is so thin i guess, that's why we see it all over the place.. i doubt the PR will be today either.. i'm guessing thursday, but hoping sooner..
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
Rollercoaster...and back up we go....
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
wow, we're seeing some nice buys coming in
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
I'm guessing PR in the late afternoon/after hours today, then we gap up tomorrow morning. Just a guess. World Cup's over...the license should be approved soon, if it hasn't already.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
buy of 248,800 at .13 nice buy
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
WHOA that big chunk 248.8k shares at .13 .. nice..
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
Volume over a million in the first hour...nice!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
I told you guys to hold on...just the start!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
u gotta be kidding me, 130 bux brought us down.. lol.. jerkoff MM's
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
lol, we're down to .10 now, so the person who bought 248.8k shares is down about $8k already.. lol
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
No one wants to give their shares up at .10
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
20 minutes of no activity. Well, we know the brakes work.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
That's because the MM's had a spread differential of 25%, slowing it down on purpose, because this baby will explode when the PR comes out. it only took 3,000 shares to bring it from .13 to .10, thats nothing...it can move just as fast the opposite direction [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
That's because the MM's had a spread differential of 25%, slowing it down on purpose, because this baby will explode when the PR comes out. it only took 3,000 shares to bring it from .13 to .10, thats nothing...it can move just as fast the opposite direction [Smile]

I agree. I was just noticing that on the Level IIs.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
I don't have Level II....where is resistance at?
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
The MM's love their games, no doubt.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
Trader, I don't have Level II, either (not Real Time), I was just looking at the Level IIs on *********************** which shows them at a 15 minute delay.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
sorry
w a l l s t r e e t n e w s a l e r t s . c o m
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
.13 x .135 UT
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
we are moving again
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
How about the Level II's here:
http://www.allstocks.com/html/free_level_2_pink_sheet_stock_.html

I'm not sure if they are delayed or not.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
Price 0.135

2.2+ million shares traded

I can't believe we're not hearing from more people on this thread!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
It's fine....I don't want them to come in and flip this..it's going to .40 without them!

Great Day...110,000 shares bought at the ask at the end of the day. Expect great things soon
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
It's fine....I don't want them to come in and flip this..it's going to .40 without them!

Great Day...110,000 shares bought at the ask at the end of the day. Expect great things soon

good point
 
Posted by azizalk on :
 
Looking good
PR is very soon.....
i hope we hit .4 by fraidy
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by azizalk:
Looking good
PR is very soon.....
i hope we hit .4 by fraidy

well, the timing couldn't be better for me if this happens . . . the family and I are moving to Minneapolis and the extra money would be very helpful! (real estate is quite high compared to Wausau)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I got in at .10 -right before she tanked to the 8's after the news... But I held, glad I did, almost flipped it then. And yes I do think this will be one wild ride when we hear the PR!
This and CHDT are kicking butt! LOVE stocks like these!

Goodluck everyone!
-Have a nice move "MT" [Smile]
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
this stock is and will go through the roof, all the numbers add up, now when our pr is released, this will be a super wild ride, 40 - 1.40 will be a bargain price, I see depending on how the pr reads from min. of 2.00 - ??. patience though.
one pr after the other will push it right up, maybe see green everyday for a month (look at invi 2004) and invi is penny's compared to this one.
 
Posted by Claydough on :
 
12-Jul-2006

Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement, Completion of Acquisiti


Item 1.01 Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement.
On July 8, 2006, The FrontHaul Group, Inc., a Delaware corporation ("FHAL"), entered into an Agreement and Plan of Merger (the "Merger Agreement") with Conversion Solutions, Inc., a Delaware corporation ("CVSU"). The Merger Agreement contemplates that, subject to the terms and conditions of the Merger Agreement, Conversion Solutions, Inc. will be merged with and into FHAL, with FHAL continuing after the merger as the surviving corporation (the "Merger").

Pursuant to the Merger Agreement, at the effective time of the Merger, each issued and outstanding share of common stock of Conversion Solutions, Inc. will be converted into the right to receive 1 shares of FHAL common stock, par value $0.001 per share (the "Exchange Ratio"), and each issued, outstanding, unexpired and unexercised CVSU stock option will be converted into FHAL stock options using the Exchange Ratio.

The Board of Directors (the "Board") and Majority shareholders of FHAL has unanimously approved the Merger Agreement. FHAL and CVSU have made customary representations, warranties and covenants in the Merger Agreement. FHAL's covenants include, among others, that (i) CVSU will conduct its business in the ordinary course consistent with past practice during the interim period between the execution of the Merger Agreement and the effective time of the Merger, (ii) FHAL will not engage in any types of transactions during such interim period,
(iii) FHAL and CVSU will not solicit proposals relating to alternative business combination transactions, and (iv) subject to certain exceptions, FHAL and CVSU will not enter into discussions concerning or provide confidential information in connection with any proposals for alternative business combination transactions.

FHAL and CVSU intend to file an S-4 registration statement / prospectus in connection with the proposed Merger for the registration of the CVSU share pursuant to the Merger agreement. Completion of the Merger is subject to customary closing conditions, including, among other things, (i) absence of any order or injunction prohibiting the consummation of the Merger; (ii) the accuracy of the representations and warranties of the each party; and (iii) compliance of each party with its covenants.

The Merger Agreement contains certain termination rights for both CVSU and FHAL, and further provides that, upon termination of the Merger Agreement under specified circumstances.

This description of the Merger Agreement is qualified in its entirety by the terms and conditions of the Merger Agreement, which is filed as Exhibit 2.1 hereto, and is incorporated herein by reference.

The Voting Agreements

In connection with the execution of the Merger Agreement, FHAL's executive officers and each member of the Board, in their capacities as stockholders, entered into a Voting Agreement with CVSU (each, a "Voting Agreement"), pursuant to which, among other things, each executive officer of FHAL and member of the . . .


Item 2.01 Completion of Acquisition or Disposition of Assets.
The Financial Accounting Standards Board's Interpretation No. 46, "Consolidation of Variable Interest Entities - an interpretation of ARB No. 51," (revised) ("FIN 46(R)") provides guidance on the identification of and reporting for variable interest entities. FIN 46(R) requires that a company consolidate a variable interest entity when the company is the primary beneficiary of the variable interest entity. The primary beneficiary of a variable interest entity is the party that absorbs a majority of the entity's expected losses, receives a majority of its expected residual returns, or both, as a result of holding a variable interest.

As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, the Company has concluded that it is the primary beneficiary of Conversion Solutions, Inc. as defined by FIN 46(R) and, therefore, will consolidate The FrontHaul Group, Inc and Conversion Solutions, Inc. financial results at the filing of the Company's Fourth quarter June 30, 2006 10KSB of fiscal 2005.


Item 2.02 Results of Operations and Financial Condition.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the Financial Statement of CVSU for the first quarter of 2006 January thru March, is attached hereto as Exhibit 9.1 and will be the starting point for the consolidated financial that will be filed for the Forth Quarter 2005 ending June 30, 2006.

Section 3 - Securities and Trading Markets


Item 3.01 Transfer of Listing.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the surviving name of the corporation and trading symbol will be Conversion Solutions, Inc (OCT BB: CVSU).


Item 3.02 Unregistered Sales of Equity Securities.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the following securities are issued to the exiting officer per employment contracts;

(a) David Perley Operations Manager 2,000,000 Common Shares
(b) Randy Moseley Chief Financial Officer 1,000,000 Common Shares
(c) Jacquie O'Neill Account Manager 30,000 Common Shares
(d) Jerry Willeford Fleet Manager 20,000 Common Shares

Section 5 - Corporate Governance and Management


Item 5.02 Departure of Directors or Principal Officers; Election of Directors; Appointment of Principal Officers.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the surviving Directors and Officer of the Reorganized corporations are listed as follows:


Exiting Board of Directors
(a) Michael Alexander Chairman


Exiting Officers
(a) Michael Alexander Chief Executive Officer
(b) Randy Moseley Chief Financial Officer
(c) Jacquie O'Neill Account Manager
(d) Jerry Willeford Fleet Manager
(e) David Perley Operations Manager


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Surviving Board of Directors
(a) Rufus Paul Harris Chairman
(b) Ben Stanley Director
(c) Jerry Bivens Director
(d) John Walsh Director


Surviving Officers
(a) Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer
(b) Ben Stanley Chief Operating Officer
(c) Darryl Horton Chief Financial Officer
(d) Jerry Bivens Corporate Secretary
(e) Romeo Venditti Executive Vice President of Global Investements
(f) Sabra Dabbs Executive Vice President Investments
(g) John Walsh Executive Vice President Administrations

Rufus Harris - Chairman & Chief Executive Officer & President Mr. Harris is the Founder and originator of Waatle Holdings Corp, Arizona Corporation and Conversion Solutions, Inc a Delaware Corporation. The co-founder of Songwi Trust. His experiences range from high-end corporate financing to bond origination. Mr. Harris has facilitated and originated projects, corporate and bond financing for more than 10 years.

Ben Stanley - Director & Chief Operating Officer Mr. Stanley is the Founder and co-originator of Waatle Holdings Corp and CVSU and the co-founder of Songwi Trust. His experiences range from high-end corporate financing to bond origination. Mr. Stanley has facilitated and originated projects, corporate and bond financing for more than 15 years.

John Walsh - Director & Executive Vice President Administrations Mr. Walsh formerly served as Controller, Birmingham Southeast, LLC a subsidiary of Birmingham Steel Corporation. Prior to that, Mr. Walsh has more than 25 years of experience as a Controller and Administrator in several industries,
i.e., molded rubber, chemicals, fibers, PVC film, and consulting. His experience includes more than 18 years with Hoechst Corporation, a Fortune 100 Company, with ever-increasing responsibilities. He last served as Director of Financial Administration at the Hoechst PVC Film Division.

Darryl Horton, CPA - Chief Financial Officer Mr. Horton is a graduate of Accounting (cum laude) from Michigan State University and has an array of experiences that include fifteen years working as an executive with the State of Michigan. Mr. Horton has served State Government as Director of Internal Audits and he is currently the Director of the Division of Licensing & Certification, which is responsible for the monitoring and regulation of all of the state's hospitals and health facilities.

Darryl Horton has earned invaluable experience as a Certified Public Accountant for over fourteen years and as Founder and CEO of Horton & Associates, a public accounting firm specializing in corporate tax planning. As an Associate Member of the Certified Fraud Examiners and as a Certified Internal Auditor, Mr. Horton has developed and monitored budgets in excess of 250 million USD, focusing on analysis of internal controls and utilizing risk assessment tools for various organizations in both the private and public industry sectors.

Mr. Horton is a highly respected member of his community who serves as Audit Chair for the local chapter of the American Red Cross; he is a member of the National Association of Accountants and the Institute of Internal Auditors, in addition to participating on the boards of several other organizations and charities.

As Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Horton will provide corporate leadership by directing treasury activities and with coordination of budget programs. He will assess the financial impact of functional initiatives and generate creative solutions. Mr. Horton will formulate and optimize the capital and tax strategy of the company and will be responsible for financial reporting by developing objectives for establishing a reporting system with controls and safeguards to protect company assets.

Jerry Bivens -- Corporate Secretary
Mr. Bivens has a Masters of Education from University of Tennessee, and a Bachelor of Science from Tennessee Wesleyan College. His experience ranges from Director of Financial to Marketing Director for two publicly held companies. Mr. Bivens has taught at the United States Military Academy, WestPoint, University of Tennessee, Hiwassee College, and Tennessee Wesleyan College.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Item 5.03 Amendments to Articles of Incorporation or Bylaws; Change in Fiscal Year.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the surviving Articles of Incorporation is attached hereto as Exhibit 3.1.

As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the surviving By-Laws is attached hereto as Exhibit 3.2.


Item 5.05 Amendments to the Registrant's Code of Ethics, or Waiver of a Provision of the Code of Ethics.
As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the company engages new Corporate Charters attached hereto as Exhibit 3.3.


Item 7. Financial Statements, Pro Forma Financial Statements and Exhibits.
(a) Financial Statements of Business Acquired.

A Un-Audited financial information required by this Item 7(a) has been included with this filing and will be modified by amendment to this Form 8-K not later than 60 days after the date this initial report on Form 8-K is filed attached hereto as Exhibit 9.1

(b) Pro Forma Financial Information.

The pro forma financial information required by this Item 7(b) has not been included with this filing and will be filed by amendment to this Form 8-K not later than 60 days after the date this initial report on Form 8-K must be filed.

Section 9 Financial Statements and Exhibits

(b) Exhibits

The Following Exhibits are filed herewith:

Exhibit No. Description

2.1 Agreement and Plan of Merger, by and among FHAL and CVSU dated as of July 8, 2006
2.2 Form of Voting Agreement, by and among FHAL and CVSU dated as of July 8, 2006
2.3 Form of Affiliate Agreement
3.1 Articles of Incorporation
3.2 By-Laws
3.3 Corporate Charters
9.1 CVSU Un-audited March 31, 2006 Financials
99.1 Press Release dated June 11, 2005 by FHAL and CVSU announcing the Agreement and Plan of Merger.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
so, what does this merger mean for us? I couldn't find any information on CVSU.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
They are a holding company. ww w.wa at l e.c o m
take the spaces out and that's their website
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
..not sure..why no mention of this on last weeks interview? I did not like the part where it says that during the interim period, Fhal cannot conduct any business, but CVSU will continue to operate as normal???
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Most recent audited financials

CONVERSION SOLUTIONS, INC.

(A Development Stage Company)

Balance Sheet

As of March 31 2006





ASSETS:

Current Assets

Cash & Cash Equivalents $ 9,146

Interest Recivable $ 33,125,000

Total Current $ 33,134,146



Other Assets

Stables $ 277,000

UCC Security Notes $ 310,138,000



Total Other Assets $ 310,415,000

Long-Term Assets

Long-term Investment in Bonds $ 500,000,000

(see footnote)

TOTAL ASSETS $ 843,549,146





LIABILITIES & EQUITY:



Liabilities:



Note Payable $ 4,400,000

Long-term Note $ 36,000,000



Equity:

Capital Stock $ 2,329

(Common stock. .0001 par value

23,290,000 authorized, issued

and outstanding)





Net Income (loss) ($ 284,019)

(1) Accumulated Other

Comprehensive Income $ 803,430,836



Total stockholders equity $ 803,149,146



TOTAL LIABILITIES & EQUITY $ 843,549,146
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
WOW!!!!! I GUESS WE KNOW WHERE THE FINANCING IS COMING FROM. THIS IS GOING TO FLY
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
843 million in assets......um yea
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I just haven't found any confirmation of that merger has anyone else found anything
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Bid-Ask going up [Smile]
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
gapper
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Should explode with this news...better then we were even looking for.
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Pre-Market buys at .15....nice
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
From 1.01 . . . with FHAL continuing after the merger as the surviving corporation (the "Merger").

As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, and incorporated by this reference; the surviving name of the corporation and trading symbol will be Conversion Solutions, Inc (OCT BB: CVSU).

These statements seem conflicting. Am I not following this?
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Ask gettin hammered
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
It means FHAL just got 800 million in assests
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
834,000 shares in 3 minutes . . . nice
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
HUGE volume rolling in...overa million in less thatn three minutes:)
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Yes....watch it fly...short squeeze on at .15
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Yes....watch it fly...short squeeze on at .15

oh, yah, almost forgot about the short squeeze level
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
.16---great volume
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
don't know what morons are selling
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Hold on tight..MM trying to dig up shares
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Its going to a bumpy ride till we get the PR. But all buys on the ASK.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
The Fronthaul Group Inc. Announces Merger Agreement With Conversion Solutions, Inc.


KENNESAW, GA -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 07/12/06 -- The Fronthaul Group, Inc. (OTCBB: FHAL) would like to announce the signing of a Merger Agreement and Plan of Merger with Conversion Solutions, Inc., a Delaware Corporation.

The surviving entity will be Conversion Solutions, Inc.; FHAL day to day operation will cease immediately, and the company will operate as CVSU to include the Director and Officers as follows;

Surviving Board of Directors

Rufus Paul Harris Chairman Ben Stanley Director Jerry Bivens Director John Walsh Director

Surviving Officers

Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Ben Stanley Chief Operating Officer Darryl Horton Chief Financial Officer Jerry Bivens Corporate Secretary Romeo Venditti Executive Vice President of Global Investments Sabra Dabbs Executive Vice President Investments John Walsh Executive Vice President Administrations

The Merger facilitates $803,149,146 in booked assets and shareholder equity. Initial estimates places the company combined financial structure and per share book value at $7.21.

Under the agreement CVSU will consume all obligations of FHAL as filed in the last FHAL 10Q.

"This Merger will greatly benefit the shareholders of FHAL and CVSU, and takes the corporation one step closer toward our long-term goals," stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris.

"This is a fantastic day for the shareholders of the Fronthaul Group, Inc. The management mindset has always been to increase shareholder value, I believe this next phase in the evolution of this company will maximize shareholder value in the most effective and efficient manner possible," says Mike Alexander.

Attention CVSU Shareholders, Note Holders and Option Holders; Please see Shareholder update on our website http://www.cvsu.us each individual will be required to complete the Form of Affiliate to achieve share exchange under the Merger Agreement.

About Conversion Solutions, Inc.

CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

The statements contained herein which are not historical are forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause the actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements, including, but not limited to, certain delays beyond the company's control with respect to market acceptance of new technologies or products, delays in testing and evaluation of products, and other risks detailed from time to time in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

The Fronthaul Group, Inc. Email Contact
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
.16 WALL GONE !!!
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Is this good news or bad news?
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
fair shair price of merged company= $7.21
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
.17 FALSE WALL ?
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
don't know what morons are selling

Trader, your comment above couldn't be more correct!

"Initial estimates places the company combined financial structure and per share book value at $7.21."
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
Is this good news or bad news?

hard to say, no details at all RE: current share holders, and looks like the amazon log deal is history. smells fishy!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
.175 moving up.
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
I don't think the log deal is history...I think this is another step forward
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
Is this good news or bad news?

hard to say, no details at all RE: current share holders, and looks like the amazon log deal is history. smells fishy!
Are you crazy, with the merger they now have the financing for the amazon log deal lmao
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4bidon:
this stock is and will go through the roof, all the numbers add up, now when our pr is released, this will be a super wild ride, 40 - 1.40 will be a bargain price, I see depending on how the pr reads from min. of 2.00 - ??. patience though.
one pr after the other will push it right up, maybe see green everyday for a month (look at invi 2004) and invi is penny's compared to this one.

4bidon,
I've seen many comments over the years of wishful thinking about a stock's potential, but you may be right on with this one.
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
agree
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
In at .16, .165, .17 and .175, holy hard fill
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
Is this good news or bad news?

hard to say, no details at all RE: current share holders, and looks like the amazon log deal is history. smells fishy!
madmoney,
please elaborate on "looks like the amazon log deal is history. smells fishy!". Curious about your position on this and why you think this.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Yea, the float is only at about 22 million...thats why
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by coalkickin:
I don't think the log deal is history...I think this is another step forward

PR said day to day operations of FHAL will cease immediatly, the new company will be an insurance underwriter?. not enough details, when will trading begin under the new symbol, how will current share holders be affected. will some kind of split be involved, will shares be restricted. will share structure change. i can think of others. sounds good on the face of it but details would be nice.
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
squeeze is on
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
will cease during the iterim period..I could be wrong though...wouldn't be the first time:)
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
Is this good news or bad news?

hard to say, no details at all RE: current share holders, and looks like the amazon log deal is history. smells fishy!
madmoney,
please elaborate on "looks like the amazon log deal is history. smells fishy!". Curious about your position on this and why you think this.

well if i remember right durring the last conference call the CEO said the log deal contract would be ready in a few days then as days past with no PR a poster claims the CEO said deal would be ready in a week or two, no PR`s about the log contract since. now this news! they are changing the focus of the comapny from a transportation and logistics company to an insurance underwriting comapny? and day to day operations of FHAL to cease immediately? new board members? no deatils at all RE:trading in the new company and possible share structure changes that seem always to follow these types of deals?. more news must be on the way, i will wait for clarification, maybe flip some.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Sit back and question....shareholder fair price $7....so guess what FHAL will be?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Resistance at .20?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
i say this goes .30+ today
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
Alphatrade shows no price nor activity for CVSU??
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Oh boys I love this..... get hits all over the ASK, then MM put out 100 trade signal, walk it down for shares, and then goes to the next level. Here comes .20 today IMO
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
.18 hit. 4.3 million volume.
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
.18
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
wow, took a two month break from stocks and this is my second play back, gotta love it :-)
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
.18 getting hit!!! This is going to see .20 easy....MM's putting out 100 trade signals, they can't get the shares with this low 22M float!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
if you look at cvsu's website they are involved with a ton of different projects.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Never seen so many 100 trades...wow
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
.185
 
Posted by permanentjaun on :
 
Thoughts on continuation into tomorrow? Big volume and a close above 200 MA could make this big.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
wow, took a two month break from stocks and this is my second play back, gotta love it :-)

good for you, Jmoove, and welcome back
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Lots of .19 and .20 on the ask.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Lets think about today...were hitting .20's soon
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
See how we do with .20 res
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
.19. 4.6 million. Big wall at .20.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
low float the 20's could fall rather quickly IMO
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
thanks, had to take a breather lol
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
22million float...according to the DD
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
19 is the 3 month resistance, .22 is the 6 month
 
Posted by permanentjaun on :
 
Where are you seeing those resistance levels? I see .22, .24, and .32 from previous highs. Wheres 19? Matt
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
From the 8K we get a 1 for 1 share exchange :-)

2.3 MERGER CONSIDERATION.

(a) Subject to Sections 2.2, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6 and 2.8 , at the Effective Time, the holders of Company Shares outstanding at the Effective Time, other than the Buyer and its Affiliates, shall be entitled to receive, and the Buyer shall issue and deliver, for each Company Share held by such Person: (i) 1.0 share of the Buyer's stock or

(b) No fractional shares of the Buyer's Stock shall be issued or delivered in connection with the Merger. Instead, the number of shares of the Buyer's Stock to which a holder of the Company Shares is entitled to receive pursuant to this Article II shall be rounded to the nearest whole share (with 0.5 share rounded up to the nearest whole share).

(c) In the event the Buyer changes the number of shares of the Buyer's Stock issued and outstanding prior to the Effective Time as a result of a stock split, stock dividend or other distribution payable in Buyer's Stock or securities convertible into Buyer's Stock or similar recapitalization with respect to such stock or effects a reclassification, combination or other change with respect to Buyer's Stock (each a "Stock Adjustment" ) and the record date therefore (in the case of a stock dividend) or the effective date thereof (in the case of a stock split or similar recapitalization, reclassification or combination for which a record date is not established) shall be prior to the Effective Time.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Hold on...walking it down again for some shares..
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
anyone want to comment on this?

2.6 AVERAGE CLOSING PRICE ADJUSTMENT.

In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2 nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price; (b) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ) an amount in cash equal to $15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price per share of Buyer's Stock to be received by such holders of Company Shares; or (c) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay no additional consideration to the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ). In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Let's get moving again
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
I'll comment on it Jmoove...it looks good for shareholder price...nuff said
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
.18 x.185 should see .20 on this leg up
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Read the considerations portions of the 8K thoroughly and looks like no R/S, FHAL will survive and still be traded under FHAL, the total authorized stock of 100,000,000 of FHAL will be taken up when the conversion of shares goes to CVSU.

This sounds solid, should be a good ride for the next few days atleast.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Yea...this will be real good!
 
Posted by Claydough on :
 
Took a little profit, waiting for a pullback to buy more. Hopefully.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Im steppin out, nothing to do but wait on this one. See yas later
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
patience my friends....
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
looks like we are going to take another stab at .19
 
Posted by jukemaster01 on :
 
so once they merge they will pay $15 a share? im lost... just getting started in all this... will the number of shares we have remain the same? i have read all the info, but makes no sense.. thks for the help in advance...
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
getting hit...there it goes
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
19's on the ask getting hit hard
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
next time we break and maintain above .19
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
next time we break and maintain above .19
I think you are right about that, but it might wait until after lunch.

Patience....

Jo
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I can't wait until all the details of the merger are clarified
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I would imagine we'll be seeing quite a few PRs in the coming days.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I just read the 8K. Unless I'm missing something this is SWEEEEEET.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
20's are on the way
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Or during lunch would be okay too [Smile]

here come the .20's!
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
20's getting hit
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
20's are on the way
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
this may see .30-.35 today...very easily
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
this still going up during lunch is a good sign IMO [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
0.21 . . . very nice!
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Nice buys coming in at .21.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
looking sweet, .30+ eod...never been above 9 mill in vol. 28 mill float ;-)
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
c'mon .22
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
nice buys coming in...should see .22 soon
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
here we go...
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
does anyone have any takes on how FHAL fits in with CVSU? I'm not connecting the dots. Curious more than anything.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
flyin...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I'm out. I told myself I'd try and dig myself out of my losses $50-$100 at a time and not get greedy, and this was my first success.

Good luck to you guys. Looks like it has plenty of steam left.

Jo
in at .16 out at .22
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
nice Jo!
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
There may be a wall at .24. Hope I'm wrong.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
needs to shake now
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
next leg .25-26 then shake to .22 then EOD run at 3:30 if pps holds above .21
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
I like that plan JMOOVE..can you arrange it??
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
.24 again. Interesting to note here. Nearly 10 million traded. Thats nearly 50% of the float of 22 million. And almost all the buys are on the ASK !!!! ARCA joining the party. Looking very strong.
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
.25. Huge wall at .26.
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
24's getting slammed
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Jeez, can this hit 30 cents...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
the news just showed up on ameritrade weird. Is anyone calling for hard copies of their shares
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
make that the 25's
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
no need to with an online brokerage ryan
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Wednesday, July 12 2006 12:26 PM, EST

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Conversion Solutions, Inc. Announces Merger Agreement With the FrontHaul Group, Inc.


KENNESAW, Ga., July 12 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: CVSU), would like to announce the signing of a Merger Agreement and Plan of Merger with The FrontHaul Group, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL) a Delaware Corporation.

The surviving entity will be Conversion Solutions, Inc.; FHAL day-to-day operation will cease immediately, and the company will operate as CVSU to include the Director and Officers as follows; Surviving Board of Directors

Rufus Paul Harris Chairman

Ben Stanley Director

Jerry Bivens Director

John Walsh Director

Surviving Officers

Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer

Ben Stanley Chief Operating Officer

Darryl Horton Chief Financial Officer

Jerry Bivens Corporate Secretary

Sabra Dabbs Executive Vice President Investments

John Walsh Executive Vice President Administrations

The Merger facilitates $803,149,146 in booked assets and shareholder equity. Initial estimates places the company combined financial structure and per share book value at $7.21.

Under the agreement CVSU will consume all obligations of FHAL as filed in the last FHAL 10Q.

"This Merger will greatly benefit the shareholders of FHAL and CVSU, and takes the corporation one step closer toward our long-term goals," stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris.

Attention CVSU Shareholders, Note Holders and Option Holders; Please see Shareholder update on our website, http://www.cvsu.us. Each individual will be required to complete the Form of Affiliate to achieve share exchange under the Merger Agreement.

"I strongly recommend that all shareholders calls for Hard copy certificates, due to FHAL near future name and symbol change," stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris.

About Conversion Solutions, Inc.

CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us. Current Joint Venture Corporations

American International Smart Structure

Brittenum Brothers Entertainment, Inc.

Rocky Road Records, Inc.

Seko Management Inc.

Current Wholly-Owned CVSU Subsidiaries

Tserof Holdings Inc.

CVSU Coffee Shop

Equine Solutions, Inc.

Stargate Productions, Inc.

Current Waatle Merger Subsidiaries

Live Mortgage Free

Federal Chamber of Commerce

Center State Beverage

LotteryFever

InfinityOne, Inc.

Amruss Group, LLC

LoanShoppers.com

SOURCE Conversion Solutions, Inc.

Contact Information: Rufus Paul Harris, CEO, +1-678-255-7650, or Harris*cvsu.us, or Ben F. Stanley, COO, +1-317-213-7700, or BenStanley*aol.com, both of Conversion Solutions, Inc.

WebSite: http://www.cvsu.us
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
I believe it will close in on .30 hit .26 now
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Took out 26's.
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Oh my God .27. where is this headed ?
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Holy SHIIT...I needed this one bad...loaded up on more yesterday...my portfolio had taken a beaten the past three weeks
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
the news just showed up on ameritrade weird. Is anyone calling for hard copies of their shares

not me! hard copies take weeks to get and weeks to exchange plus costs to the broker. will take my chances!!
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
.30 sooner than we thought
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!1 I like it, I love it, I want some more of it!!!
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
give er a gallon [Big Grin]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
That's what I thought. Thanks for the clarification
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
I am tempted to flip. But will hold on to my shares. Dont want to chase it.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
ok walk it back down again please, too fast lol
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
.30 after this shake
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
The Merger facilitates $803,149,146 in booked assets and shareholder equity. Initial estimates places the company combined financial structure and per share book value at $7.21.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Here is the news on Ameritrade.

Conversion Solutions, Inc. Announces Merger Agreement With the FrontHaul Group, Inc.


By PR Newswire
Last Update: 7/12/2006 12:27:11 PM Data provided by

KENNESAW, Ga., July 12, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: CVSU), would like to announce the signing of a Merger Agreement and Plan of Merger with The FrontHaul Group, Inc. (FHAL) a Delaware Corporation.

The surviving entity will be Conversion Solutions, Inc.; FHAL day-to-day operation will cease immediately, and the company will operate as CVSU to include the Director and Officers as follows;

The Merger facilitates $803,149,146 in booked assets and shareholder equity. Initial estimates places the company combined financial structure and per share book value at $7.21.

Under the agreement CVSU will consume all obligations of FHAL as filed in the last FHAL 10Q.

"This Merger will greatly benefit the shareholders of FHAL and CVSU, and takes the corporation one step closer toward our long-term goals," stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris.

Attention CVSU Shareholders, Note Holders and Option Holders; Please see Shareholder update on our website, www.cvsu.us. Each individual will be required to complete the Form of Affiliate to achieve share exchange under the Merger Agreement.

"I strongly recommend that all shareholders calls for Hard copy certificates, due to FHAL near future name and symbol change," stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris.

About Conversion Solutions, Inc.

CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at www.cvsu.us.

SOURCE Conversion Solutions, Inc.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jordanm:
I am tempted to flip. But will hold on to my shares. Dont want to chase it.

I know how you feel jordan. Up over 100% but 0.28 is a long way from $7
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Alot of investores probably just found out with the recent PR at 12:26
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
11 million traded. That makes it 50% of the float.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Nice, I'm up 50% already, bought a truck load at 0.2
Looking for 40 cents at this rate of incline.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Only a couple MM's till 30 cents.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
I dont want to get ahead of myself but over the next few days .50 might actually be possible, hmmm
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Ask at .2890
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
ask is extremely thin up to .30
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
:-)
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
.30 cents baby!!!
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
.31 printed.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
I say we go $1 today.
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
what a great thing to return from lunch to see!
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Jmoove.....this is a Category 5 . More than you or me have experienced [Smile]
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
I like your optimism tonic
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Up over 100% but 0.28 is a long way from $7
Just be careful. Take some profits along the way. Look at NDOL. Never did we see the $2.17 pps that was bandied about in their merger PR. And now, NDOL sits at .29 .

Jo
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
already time for another shake maybe? lets keep this run healthy
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
12 million. At this rate we will trade the float today.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I'm trying to digest all of this. WHOOO HOOO on the pps, but this seems weird.

Why did CVSU merge FHAL??? Is CVSU going to run a logistics business as well? They don't talk about anything like that on their website.

Lastly, for now, if this thing has a book value of over $7, why isn't it already trading there :0?
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
.32 coming....
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Only 2 MM till 33 cents
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
milliam, basically it was a reverse merger, insert CVSU's assets into FHAL that is why FHAL isnt trading higher...yet ;-)
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
at this rate, we have another 3 hours to go I say $1.

than gapup tomorrow AGAIN. than $6 to $7.
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
DD on CVSU. Look at the O/S. Add up NHAL O/S. Still a very small O/S. Long way to go for this baby.

CVSU -- Conversion Solutions, Inc.
Com ($0.0001)

Search for Dun & Bradstreet reports on this company.

Address:
125 Town Park Dr.
Suite 300
Kennesaw, GA 30144
USA


Website: http://www.cvsu.us
Phone: 770-420-8270
Fax: 404-393-9824


Business Description:
The Company is a diversified holdings company which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's main products will be to acquire, provide funding and insurance to its target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market.

State of Incorporation: Delaware


Country of Incorporation: USA
Year of Incorporation 2005

Officers:
Rufus Paul Harris, President/CEO; Ben Stanley, COO

Fiscal Year End: December 31

CIK: 0001320865

Outstanding Shares: 23,290,000 as of 2005-09-30

Estimated Market Cap: Not Available
Authorized Shares: 120,000,000 as of 2005-06-08
Float: 400,000 as of 2005-06-08


Current Capital Change:

Dividends:

Company Notes:
Note=6-8-05 company is in the development stage


Transfer Agent:
Holladay Stock Transfer, Scottsdale, AZ 85251
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I'm also thinking this will kill the Amazon deal, but that probably doesn't matter at this point.

I wonder if Mike Alexander will form a new company and go after the Amazon deal. He made it sound like he was friends with the CEOTA guy and that was one of the reasons they had the LOI.
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
Bought in back on 6/14 for .119, havent checked it out till today. DAMN - 159% usually dont hold with that kinda gain but think this has another 159% to go.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Jo did ndol ever complete the merge?
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
The Merger facilitates $803,149,146 in booked assets and shareholder equity. Initial estimates places the company combined financial structure and per share book value at $7.21.

yeah 7.21 pps nice reall nice
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Batman is very happy today
 
Posted by Homersbud on :
 
Wow, the PR was great today!

I haven't been following this stock, so I didn't jump in until $.22 but EXTREMELY pleased with my buy.

Congrates to everyone who's in this especially the longs!
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Is nearly half the float gone?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
gonna take a breather here and drop to 26 or 27 in a min, then make a run at .40
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i read the PR but can someone explain to me about it? lol.. all i see is that 7 bux thing.. omg.. i know we'd have to wait for the details.. but still.. someone with expertise please elaborate
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
Larger spread on BxA now
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I am averaged at .095 I believe unfortunately impatience got the better of me last week and I sold 8000 shares to try and play other stuff I still have about 20k. GLTA wish I was a little more patient before.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Shake again, healthy, I'm dumping some other holdings so I can load up more.
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
13 million. Make it 60% of the float traded today.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
bobcat88
low floaters have tendency to go up BIG time.

There were stocks I see go up 800 to 2000% in one day than keep on going due to low float.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
jordanm, still 3 hour to go.
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
I placed a call to CVSU..got a machine...see if they call me back to answer some questions
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
People, pull up 1 year chart, as you see the resistance is at 0.34.

3 time did it not break it.

Once we break this .34, we are heading to $1 than some more.
 
Posted by jukemaster01 on :
 
this thing is running like crazy! still good entry at low .30's $7.12 -$15 per share prediction! awesome! [Wink]
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tonicma:
bobcat88
low floaters have tendency to go up BIG time.

There were stocks I see go up 800 to 2000% in one day than keep on going due to low float.

I hear ya, I hit it big with usxp! Got nearly $23k of profit to play with, that's what I used to buy in with FHAL. Gonna owe the taxman this year!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Jo did ndol ever complete the merge?
Yes, back in May. "Reverse merger" to become Northwest Oil group.

NDOL had a lot of misleading statements that isn't happenning with FHAL, but these things can turn on a dime, so protect yourself.

Jo
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tonicma:
People, pull up 1 year chart, as you see the resistance is at 0.34.

3 time did it not break it.

Once we break this .34, we are heading to $1 than some more.

good thing for us is that the dynamics of this organization are completely different now . . . the 0.34 resistance will not hold
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
5.3 BUYER'S STOCK. = csvu

(a) The authorized capital stock of the Buyer consists of 200,000,000 shares of common stock, $.001 par value per share, of which 62,157,721 shares are issued and outstanding as of the date of this Agreement, and except for such shares, there are no shares of capital stock of the Buyer outstanding. There are options see Exhibit D (" FHAL Financials" ). In addition, there are 10,000,000 shares of capital stock reserved under the Fronthaul Group Inc. Compensation Plan for Outside Directors.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>>>
4.3 CAPITAL STOCK; SUBSIDIARIES. = FHAL?

(a) The authorized capital stock of the Company consists of 100,000,000 shares of common stock, $0.001 par value per share, of which 48,898,637 shares are issued and outstanding as of the date of this Agreement, and 20,000,000 shares of preferred stock, $5 par value per share, of which there are no shares issued and outstanding as of the date of this Agreement. Except for the 48,898,637 shares of common stock referenced in the preceding sentence, there are no shares of capital stock or other equity securities of the Company outstanding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> if you divide the book value into the assets in the PR you will get a total O/S post merger of just over 114 million shares. not bad!
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tonicma:
People, pull up 1 year chart, as you see the resistance is at 0.34.

3 time did it not break it.

Once we break this .34, we are heading to $1 than some more.

I have a buy at 0.35 once this breaks 0.34. Just wanna make sure it breaks the resistance.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I agree Jo just wasn't sure if ndol merger went through
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Squire38:
quote:
Originally posted by tonicma:
People, pull up 1 year chart, as you see the resistance is at 0.34.

3 time did it not break it.

Once we break this .34, we are heading to $1 than some more.

I have a buy at 0.35 once this breaks 0.34. Just wanna make sure it breaks the resistance.
lol, taken one for the team:)
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
I made HUGE money on NDOL but sold realizing it was not going to hit the suggested pps.
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
I'm in already, but don't want to commit more until I know it breaks the resistance.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tonicma:
I made HUGE money on NDOL but sold realizing it was not going to hit the suggested pps.

same here, averaged out at 1.35 for 500+ percent gain!!
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
This volume is going to catch some radars...then wehn they digest the possibilites,,,,BOOOOOYA
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
and to think i almost added 65k more shares yesterday, but instead bought into IMJX.. POS costing me almost 3k.. but this makes up for it.. lol
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
mnvestor, do you have L2's
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
HOD getting slobbered, and now a new HOD
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Lets break it
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
L2s changing too quickly.

But here they are currently, and they will have already changed by the time I post.

Bid:
3 at 34

Ask:
4 at 36 / 1 at 39 / 3 a 40
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
.50 seems very doable at this point...depending on profit takers. To those..PLEASE sell at the ask
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
BREAKOUT!!!!! $1 here we come than $6-7
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
is it to late to buy at .34?????
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
Wait for a little dip cas
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
14 million traded.
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by casviper:
is it to late to buy at .34?????

Wait a minute, its coming down, buy on the dip.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Dipping now, shake shake shake.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'm in, broke my own rule of keeping away from big gainers after the gain, but I remember PGPM when I could have bought after 100%. It went to 1100%
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Doniboy, how you been?
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
Well today was news of the merger, so you should be ok.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
So damn strong, the next push we will head to 40 cents.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
and to think we still got the contract waiting right around the corner, tomorrow is perfect timing for contract news
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'm good Cassity, nice to see you. I just hope this thing rides a little higher. [Smile]
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Hi Doniboy
I was in that too, what a ride it was.
 
Posted by skip on :
 
might jump in this...looks good for a few days of green from this news...this was done in a 8-K filing, so what you see is what you get, no games...looks awesome!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
crossing my fingers buy it doesn't look like these shakes are taking it down that much IMO anybody else?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by skip:
might jump in this...looks good for a few days of green from this news...this was done in a 8-K filing, so what you see is what you get, no games...looks awesome!

i hope we dont end up getting restricted shares!!!
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
after each shake we climbed to new highs
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
FHAL survives the merger so dont worry about your shares for now. Lets see what the symbol change brings us that is spoken about in the PR
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
It said we were getting a one for one share swap of common stock I believe. I'll check further
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
more sells than buys! dip comming!!
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Anyone have a number for Fhal...I'lll give them a call
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
here comes that 26-28 dip, intraday oversold and dipping, EOD should be nice
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by coalkickin:
Anyone have a number for Fhal...I'lll give them a call

1-800-111-fhal
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
I only have 8000 shares * .10

But what the hell, at a dollar it is still alot I guess.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I just called the company(because I wondering the same thing as madmoney) on this phone# Rufus Paul Harris, CEO, +1-678-255-7650, Rufus answered, I told him that I was a share holder in FHAL and asked him with the merger if our shares would be restricted, his exact words(please everyone call and confirm) were, "they will stay just as they are." That's what he said so please call them as well to confirm. GREAT NEWS to me.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Nice call Cassity......SWEEEET!!!!
 
Posted by pepa z depa on :
 
i have 50000 free shares now.
bought at 0.08, sold 10k for 18 and 20k for 30 cents. great day today.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Nice cassity, thats how I read the 8K..good to know
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
the symbol CVSU exists...
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
going back up?
man I feel bad I posted here a couple of days ago that I expected it to go lower than 0.08 until more news came out... and look at where it is now, simply amazing, congrats to all that held!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Cassity, good DD, 8K confirms your call
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
come on baby.. move it. move it.. i don't wanna start selling til .40's ..
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
I just called the company(because I wondering the same thing as madmoney) on this phone# Rufus Paul Harris, CEO, +1-678-255-7650, Rufus answered, I told him that I was a share holder in FHAL and asked him with the merger if our shares would be restricted, his exact words(please everyone call and confirm) were, "they will stay just as they are." That's what he said so please call them as well to confirm. GREAT NEWS to me.

Ok, screw waiting to buy more at 35.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Good job cassity that's how I read the 8k also. Without getting to excited this seems like a once in a lifetime opportunity.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
The high today is 35 and were at 32, That's pretty strong!!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
holding nicely at these levels
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Just talked to Harris...YES,,the reason for the merger was that so the Amazon deal could be realized. This will provide the capital needed to get it going
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
So what exactly is CVSU?
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Squire38:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
I just called the company(because I wondering the same thing as madmoney) on this phone# Rufus Paul Harris, CEO, +1-678-255-7650, Rufus answered, I told him that I was a share holder in FHAL and asked him with the merger if our shares would be restricted, his exact words(please everyone call and confirm) were, "they will stay just as they are." That's what he said so please call them as well to confirm. GREAT NEWS to me.

Ok, screw waiting to buy more at 35.
Thats the way I read it also! None of that restricted crap and anything stupid.

YES!!! woooohooooo!!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Just a thought does anyone think with this merger and the possibilities of what our share price could be that we will move to a higher exchange?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i'd like to see us in the dollar(s) first.. higher exchange will take a while.. not really worried about that.. first things first.. next thing contract.. then detail terms of merger..
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
heres that dip that I was thinking would happen
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I hate the dip [Frown]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Aren't the terms of the merger in the 8k
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
well, i wanna see solid numbers with the term..
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Sweet, just picked up a couple of thousand at .27
 
Posted by skip on :
 
in at .27
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
doesn't all the information have to be provided in the 8k. I thought that's how it was supposed to be. I don't know for sure but everything seemed to be in there.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
From CVSU's website:

CVSU intends to list its stock on the NASD
 
Posted by skip on :
 
8-k has to be accurate, it's an SEC filing...what you see is what you get as far as I know...wait until tonight when everyone gets home from work and sees this news, tomorrow could be nice as well!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
mnvestor, did you pick up more in that dip?
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
From the 8-K WOW!

2.6 AVERAGE CLOSING PRICE ADJUSTMENT.

In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2 nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price; (b) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ) an amount in cash equal to $15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price per share of Buyer's Stock to be received by such holders of Company Shares; or (c) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay no additional consideration to the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ). In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
WTF?????????????
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
whats going on
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
gettin ready to move it again
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
The only question I have is when is this to go into effect. When do we start trading as cvsu
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
jmoove you've always been accurate in predicting price movements, do you see an EOD run?
thanks
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
What did I say earlier about not getting greedy....back in at .27.

Hope I don't regret this.

Jo
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I know what you mean Jo but so far no one can find anything wrong with this deal. It just may be the real deal
 
Posted by skip on :
 
from the looks of the l2's and talk on boards, there are a lot of folks in this at .27 or higher...I would love to see this go HUGE!

500 posts for me, sweet!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
needs to show some strength and move above .30 and stay there till 315-330 or so, and a fall below .24 would kill a chance at an eod run. But honestly this works its way up over the next few days regardless
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
The only question I have is when is this to go into effect. When do we start trading as cvsu

I think it will be very soon. It said that FHAL will stop immediatly. JMHO
 
Posted by skip on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
...But honestly this works its way up over the next few days regardless

totally agree...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
But honestly this works its way up over the next few days regardless

Better to hold overnight anyhow, so it won't count as a daytrade for me. I've already got one today.

Jo
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
.25 [Frown]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
alright all im out see you around 330
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
not out of the stock just out for some food lol
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
lol, i was gonna ask you that
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
So, Im probably not reading it correctly, but I interpret it as csvu or whatever the ticker is would be valued at $7 or so, once the merger is complete. So in essence this is potentially a 25 bagger or so? Or am i way off and dreaming too much lol.
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
FHAL is in Texas, CVSU is in Georgia.

THE CLOSING

3.1 CLOSING. The Closing of the Merger shall take place at the offices of Conversion Solutions, Inc. as soon as reasonably practical after all conditions to Closing have been met, or on such other date or at such other location as the Buyer and the Company may mutually agree (such date, the "Closing Date"). At the Closing, the parties will execute, deliver and file all documents necessary to effect the transactions contemplated with respect to the Merger, including the Articles of Merger in respect of the Merger.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Igor R:
So, Im probably not reading it correctly, but I interpret it as csvu or whatever the ticker is would be valued at $7 or so, once the merger is complete. So in essence this is potentially a 25 bagger or so? Or am i way off and dreaming too much lol.

I think you are dreaming too mutch! book value will be 7+ bucks according to the PR, the stock is only worth what buyers are willing to pay, right now that value is up to about 35 cents a share.
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
Awww heck, it's at .27, only a measly 100% gain on the day... (yeah and how I wish all my stocks were doing that today! )
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Igor R:
So, Im probably not reading it correctly, but I interpret it as csvu or whatever the ticker is would be valued at $7 or so, once the merger is complete. So in essence this is potentially a 25 bagger or so? Or am i way off and dreaming too much lol.

Probably anywhere from $1 to $3.50, I don't know the rules to be listed on NASD though.
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Squire38:
quote:
Originally posted by Igor R:
So, Im probably not reading it correctly, but I interpret it as csvu or whatever the ticker is would be valued at $7 or so, once the merger is complete. So in essence this is potentially a 25 bagger or so? Or am i way off and dreaming too much lol.

Probably anywhere from $1 to $3.50, I don't know the rules to be listed on NASD though.
that is what i expect too [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
Enron Founder's Funeral Draws Crowd
AP - Former President George Bush and his wife, Barbara, were among the mourners Wednesday at the funeral of Enron Corp. founder Kenneth Lay.

And in sympathy the big boards are in a downward spiral to salute Lay.....

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we couldn't be any happier!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Igor R:
So, Im probably not reading it correctly, but I interpret it as csvu or whatever the ticker is would be valued at $7 or so, once the merger is complete. So in essence this is potentially a 25 bagger or so? Or am i way off and dreaming too much lol.

on the day CSVU opens for trading the price should be whatever the price of FHAL closed at the day before.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
up we go, and saw coupla of those 100's
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so what is this going to look like in an hour and a half? anyone out there have a crystal ball?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i believe we'll have an EOD runup.. then tomorrow hopefully the PR about a follow or the contract..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tryin' to bounce back up...we need to get above .30 or so...and hold...looks good...if the buying pressure continues...the am could be GREAT!
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
There should be a huge EOD run, and mabey even a gapper in the morning.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
With many people just now reading the news and many more coming home from work to the news will cause a gap up in the am IMO.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Yeah, merger is huge news.
 
Posted by skip on :
 
I posted this on IHUB, thought I would share my opinion here...

a few things that might happen tonight...

Investers that can't watch during the day will see the news, freak out, then buy...those that don't see the news will see the huge volume spike today, then they will see the news, freak out, buy...those that don't see the news or the volume will see all of the board chatter, yes freak out, and yes buy...first wave of flippers should be gone today, new money starts flowing in now...all things leading to a great week!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LOL..skip....so in short...everyone is going to freak out and buy?!
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
LOL..skip....so in short...everyone is going to freak out and buy?!

LOl
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Here we go!!!!!
 
Posted by skip on :
 
haha yes, sort of like I did when I read the news...a little freakout and some buying...good times!
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
I like what I am seeing, waiting for eod runup.
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
Good time to load up again
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
From another board.

Today, 02:49 PM #2207
gamreynoso
HSM Regular


Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 300 i just got off the phone with Ben from CVSU, the symbol will change to CVSU. He mention something of it being traded on the NASDAQ and of a PR being released soon. Sounded like today or tomorrow. He stated the value of the "stock will go up".

God give me the power and patience to wait and to sell at the right time, please. And thank you for yor blessings, AMEN!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
y'all are freaking me out [Eek!]

could be the bounce, right n-o-w, lol
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Can you say SHORT SQUEEZE. Squeeze that juice, I want my $7 orange juice
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Hey skip...i guess Tex read the news...! LOL
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
freak on bro [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I picked up 2k more X .27!
 
Posted by Free Muney on :
 
are you all just optimistic because your all invested?
I am in at .105 and am considering selling at .31 to recoup my principal and ride the rest... does everyone feel like the breakout should continue?
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
I've heard ruomors of this being traded on the being traded on the NASDAQ...are they true?
 
Posted by skip on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Hey skip...i guess Tex read the news...! LOL

see, what did I tell ya!

this scenario will repeat itself in computer rooms across the nation this evening...ahhh, the freak out and buy, a truly wonderful phenomenon...
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Free Muney:
are you all just optimistic because your all invested?
I am in at .105 and am considering selling at .31 to recoup my principal and ride the rest... does everyone feel like the breakout should continue?

just read the PR and skip says you will freak out
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Nope, I think we are optimistic because of the news we have received. Shouldn't we be?
I'm in X .10 and .27 now and looking for much more. Always protect your capital even with stocks like Google, AEP, and HD.

Would you tell me why you think the breakout shouldn't continue?
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Ok, lets move it up now. Push it, Push it. squeze it squeeze it.
 
Posted by azizalk on :
 
looking Good
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Free Muney:
are you all just optimistic because your all invested?
I am in at .105 and am considering selling at .31 to recoup my principal and ride the rest... does everyone feel like the breakout should continue?

Always protect your capital! If you leave some for another ride...it's all Profit after that!

GLTY!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
TEX. Are you in this? What's your take
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
PUSH IT, BIATc
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
huge EOD run comming....all the bids are raised,

This will be huge.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
we survived!!
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Whoever bought at .25 made a good 20% right now. too bad I runned out of
"high risk" money.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I freaked out, but couldn't afford to buy any more.
 
Posted by skip on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I freaked out, but couldn't afford to buy any more.

brilliant!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
We need to get some buying pressure into the close...regardless...I'm stickin'...we'll see what tomorrow brings!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
y'all are freaking me out [Eek!]

could be the bounce, right n-o-w, lol

Tex, I was wondering when we'd hear from you.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
TEX. Are you in this? What's your take

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=FHAL&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p85820198930

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=FHAL&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p26866918370

lol, wally, I *wanna* believe, but the charts are holding me back, at least for the moment...see the sharp angles on ADX & Aroon?

Then, notice how little volume required to bring it down? I think given the potential, it's worth it to me to await confirmation and give up some points on entry... if it goes sky high? plenty of room left to enter...but, hey--that's just me...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Thanks for the Answer TEX
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
y'all are freaking me out [Eek!]

could be the bounce, right n-o-w, lol

Tex, I was wondering when we'd hear from you.
had that been the bounce I *thought* it might be, would expect to be at .315 to 32 by now...

gonna watch it close, for sure--might see some real interest
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
There were some huge block buys in the traders alerts for MICROCAP TRADE, and not one block sell. That's a pretty good sign.
 
Posted by skip on :
 
that is good matvfreelife, I mean, batman [Wink]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
EOD dip comming? lots of sells! trading has slowed way down!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
its everyone waiting to see if there is going to be a sell off, at 345 we should see some vol
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by skip:
that is good matvfreelife, I mean, batman [Wink]

I think Batman needs a new disguise...the bat suit just ain't cuttin it. LoL
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I want to jump in on this, I just have a feelin they are gunna shake it down yet....maybe .225+??
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
ppl usually don't sell on the first day of a merger announcement, especially something this good, and filed 8K, instead of just regular PR.. plus we still got contract update.. we should be good this week
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
When will the name change happen?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
really needs to see some pos vol right now, or momentum will be dead for gap tomorrow
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
going down on low volume.. not even a real sell off.. hate it whent that happens.. itty bitty sells
 
Posted by skip on :
 
I still think that when everyone catches onto this tonight, there will be heavy buying pressure in the AM...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
C'mon FHAL....lets see a last spark to bring us to the new day.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
.40ish or bust for me..
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
cmon baby surge for me
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
really needs to see some pos vol right now, or momentum will be dead for gap tomorrow

got a gap to fill, too...
 
Posted by skip on :
 
bxa .27x.27
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
yup, needs to see a dip mid morning tomorrow to 22 or so to fill it imo, then its off to the races again
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
last 5 minutes......c'mon baby!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
really needs to see some pos vol right now, or momentum will be dead for gap tomorrow

got a gap to fill, too...
Thats the other thing thats keepin my finger off the button Tex!!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
bid is building
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I'm not going anywhere. If someone can give me a good reason to sell - I'm all ears.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
really needs to see some pos vol right now, or momentum will be dead for gap tomorrow

got a gap to fill, too...
Thats the other thing thats keepin my finger off the button Tex!!
imo? the sooner it fills, the better...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
wow, that sucks
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Absolutely!!! The filling of the gap soon, would be good.... It has to come back along way to do it....Might not happen for a while...
_________________________________________________


What sucks??
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i'll take .26 .. man, .30 would have been a lot nicer like it deserves.. tomorrow then folks
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Well I can't celebrate like you guys, because I chased. Today was a big loss for me. The news seems incredible, I hope it bounces.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
.26 is actually a good stopping point. It's low enough for new money to come in tommorrow morning and folks won't be scared off by gains of over 100%.

The good news will be read tonight by those away from their computers during the day and folks will see that there is still a good entry point.

Jo
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Now I know what sucks... Hang in there Doniboy...


I thought it was gunna close a bit lower than this...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I keep saying to myself it wasn't just a PR it was an 8K that's the amazing thing to me
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
.26 is actually a good stopping point. It's low enough for new money to come in tommorrow morning and folks won't be scared off by gains of over 100%.

The good news will be read tonight by those away from their computers during the day and folks will see that there is still a good entry point.

Jo

ya know, that's a really good point..
 
Posted by skip on :
 
finished on an uptick, good stuff
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Well I do feel better that some of you guys are here. Some big names in the Allstocks world...lol.
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
You aren't alone, I got in at .28. I am holding 'till at least .5
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
The volume is good. The news is good. Its a 8-k. Not some flimsy GFCI or IDWD PR. There is a lot of ambiguity over which company ceases operations - CVSU or NHAL (8K differs from the PR). Also CVSU is not traded on the Pinksheets.

A good PR tomorrow on the Amazon deal or clearing up some of the issues should push this way higher. Lot of money on the sidelines waiting. I am in for the long haul.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
the outstanding shares of csvu = 23,290,000
so that gives us 140,000,000 mil. not bad at all.
cvsu and fhal combined should be 1 billion $$ right ?? then comes the log deal between ceota and fhal. COOOoool.
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
I am with everyone who chased.....I didn't get in unitl .26 I could kick myself for watching last week(or two weeks ago) at .09 Oh well time for some good news!!!!
 
Posted by skip on :
 
the way I read it is that FHAL will cease to exist after the merger, CVSU will be the new CUSIP and the A/S will be 120,000,000...20 mil preferred, 100 mil O/S...over $800,000,000 in assets for the new company...book value of ~$7.20 per share...your FHAL shares will become CVSU shares (1 for 1) and will not be restricted in any way...
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
This thing is still weird. The way I read the following (from the 8K), FHAL is the surviving corporation. CVSU will receive 1 for 1 FHAL shares for CVSU shares and FHAL holder will continue to have what they have. I would have thought it would have been the other way around.

From the 8K:
At the Effective Time, the outstanding shares of the common stock of the corporations participating in the Merger will be converted and exchanged as follows:

1. Conversion Solutions, Inc.

(a) Each outstanding Company Share (as defined in the Agreement) shall at the Effective Time no longer be outstanding and shall be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist, and the holders of the certificates representing such shares shall thereafter cease to have any rights with respect to such shares except for the right to receive, in consideration for each such share and subject to certain election and allocation procedures, the issuance and delivery of: (i) [ ] shares of the FHAL common stock, $.001 par value, as traded on the Over the Counter NASDAQ Bulletin Board National Market System ("Buyer's Stock").

2. Surviving Corporation.

(a) Each outstanding share of the Buyer's Stock shall remain outstanding after the Effective Time and shall not be affected by the Merger.
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
I am with everyone who chased.....I didn't get in unitl .26 I could kick myself for watching last week(or two weeks ago) at .09 Oh well time for some good news!!!!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
My intrepretation is that CVSU is being absorbed into FHAL, because FHAL is an OTCBB stock, ONce doen(At the same time) FHAL will cease to exist and the new company will be CVSU. FHAL stock will remain as it is, free trading with a book value of $7.23.

Since FHAL is the OTCBB company that is why CVSU shareholders will get 1 for 1 shares of FHAL. The nice part is since they are mergering into FHAL we continue on with no restrictions. SWEET.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nu2This:
I am with everyone who chased.....I didn't get in unitl .26 I could kick myself for watching last week(or two weeks ago) at .09 Oh well time for some good news!!!!

nu2this, the terrific thing is that you got some, this stock is going to go for a wild ride up, there will be lots of confusion from some of the traders this evening, especially the ones that laughed at us. the bashers at .09. hang on for the ride.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
My intrepretation is that CVSU is being absorbed into FHAL, because FHAL is an OTCBB stock, ONce doen(At the same time) FHAL will cease to exist and the new company will be CVSU. FHAL stock will remain as it is, free trading with a book value of $7.23.

Since FHAL is the OTCBB company that is why CVSU shareholders will get 1 for 1 shares of FHAL. The nice part is since they are mergering into FHAL we continue on with no restrictions. SWEET.

GLTA
Wally

I'm with you Wally. This is how I understand it.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Saw this on Ihub, found it in 8K, appears there is tax advantage for conversion solns:


THIS MERGER AGREEMENT (this "Agreement"), dated as of the 8th day of July, 2006, is by and among:

FRONTHAUL GROUP INC., a Delaware corporation (the "Buyer"); and

Conversion Solutions, Inc., a Delaware corporation and a holding company (the "Company").

BACKGROUND STATEMENT

The Buyer and the Company desire to effect a merger pursuant to which the Company will merge into the Buyer, with the Buyer being the surviving corporation (the "Merger"). In consideration of the Merger, the shareholders of the Company will receive shares of common stock of the Buyer. It is intended that the Merger qualifies as a tax-free reorganization under Section 368 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
I bet we get the pr for the contract for the 1.5 billion $$ in amazon logs soon, I bet this merger depended on that happening.
at M N 1 conference, mike alexander said he was doing business with a co. that could get 100 mil in financing, and that company is practically a household name (CVSU) ??
this is better than anything I have ever seen.
 
Posted by skip on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
Saw this on Ihub, found it in 8K, appears there is tax advantage for conversion solns:


THIS MERGER AGREEMENT (this "Agreement"), dated as of the 8th day of July, 2006, is by and among:

FRONTHAUL GROUP INC., a Delaware corporation (the "Buyer"); and

Conversion Solutions, Inc., a Delaware corporation and a holding company (the "Company").

BACKGROUND STATEMENT

The Buyer and the Company desire to effect a merger pursuant to which the Company will merge into the Buyer, with the Buyer being the surviving corporation (the "Merger"). In consideration of the Merger, the shareholders of the Company will receive shares of common stock of the Buyer. It is intended that the Merger qualifies as a tax-free reorganization under Section 368 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended.

my first recopied post from another board, sweet!!!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Makes sense Wally. I guess we should be happy we don't have to file any paperwork and can just keep on trading.

I'm all in at this point (wish I had more to put into this but oh well).

Good luck to everyone.
Milliam
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
I bet they already have the contract in there hands.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Good info skip, appreciate it...still reading all the fine print in SEC filings...
 
Posted by skip on :
 
no prob! I'm combing it too, can't find anything bad, all bases seem to be covered...
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
theres good news all over this thing ,, love it ,i say , love it
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by skip:
no prob! I'm combing it too, can't find anything bad, all bases seem to be covered...

I've been looking since this came out to find the bad news. I can't and I'm looking for it. Did we just get extremely lucky?
 
Posted by skip on :
 
repost from HSM:

Hobbes80
HSM Enthusiast
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Herndon, VA
Posts: 522 Quote:
Originally Posted by phil
that came from the 8k, the merger agreement shows fhal is the survivng co, and it is the actual agreement.

Yes. FHAL is the surviving company... let's go through the steps again

CVSU and FHAL merge
CVSU symbol stops reporting
FHAL sits for 7 days.
FHAL company is renamed to CVSU.

If they had tried to just merge them as CVSU, then they would have to get reapproved to be a BB stock. This way, they stay as a BB stock, without having to re-apply, but still get to use the CVSU name.

Does everyone understand now? I think that is why it is so confusing. Merger agreement HAS to say that FHAL survives, because at the end of the merger, all that is left is FHAL. Then, they will change the name.

This is all in the releases.

------

another breakdown for those that may still have some confusion...
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
KENNESAW, Ga., July 12 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: CVSU), would like to announce the signing of a Merger Agreement and Plan of Merger with The FrontHaul Group, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL) a Delaware Corporation.

The surviving entity will be Conversion Solutions, Inc.; FHAL day-to-day operation will cease immediately, and the company will operate as CVSU to include the Director and Officers as follows; Surviving Board of Directors

CVSU's website:
http://www.cvsu.us/
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I would just like to personally thank everyone for their attention to FHAL today and all the input provided. The thread today was fun to be a part of and I'm looking forward to tomorrow!

Wally, I like your question about whether we just got extremely lucky - let's hope so. Because there's nothing wrong with being lucky every once in awhile. Right place, right time as they say. Here's to all of us being "Irish" - let's go enjoy some Guiness!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
other good stuff from CVSU's website:

CVSU intends to operate its business and apply for a company rating from Fitch rating service. As CVSU’s public target will have been a corporate entity for more than five (5) years with more than 3 years of operating history, it will qualify for submission to Fitch Rating Service for a company rating. Such a rating will be beneficial in Europe and the U.S.A.
 
Posted by skip on :
 
this is nice too...

CVSU intends to list its stock on the NASD. To this end, CVSU is in discussion with various market makers to engage in a firm underwriting using a syndicated market distribution approach.

-----

another way to do this is to be absorbed into a fully reported OTCBB stock (FHAL) combine assets/contracts, drive the share price up and make the move...
 
Posted by CashCow on :
 
damn...great +88% today
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4bidon:
I bet they already have the contract in there hands.

yep, they definitely got the contract.. what a strategic move..
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
It makes so much sense now.. Last Friday TPTB from FHAL were all prepared to annouce the signing of the deal for the Amazon project. The interview was scheduled and then They stated that the announcement was postponed. WHY?

Because this deal was in the works and close to being completed. THey couldn't say anything. Many people sold. Some held on, Of course I was one of them, to see what wsa to happen. I never expected this. In fact I had put my sell in at .35 based on the expect news from the Amazon contract. I forgot I had the limit sell in until 2,000 shares sold and I quickly cancelled the balance. Upside, I got all my investment back and a little profit. I also retained the majority of my shares. WIN WIN. I believe this is the real deal here. I could be wrong. Everyone else do the DD and make decisions you ca live with whether you decide to buy, sell or stay on the sidelines.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i do like the way the company behaves.. they don't seem like they're trying to pump.. their action is solid.. love the 8K instead of a hyped up PR.. they could have announced something like this earlier before the filing like a lot of others do to hype up the price.. if no PR tomorrow, we may take a little hit, but after this 8K FHAL has more credibility and I will hold..
wally, selling at .35 would have been a flipper's dream today, but then there was a chance we shoot pass .40 also.. just hoping for the best in the days to come.. =|
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
So far I hear and see all positives. I sure hope it pans out....
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Not trying to bash...
But why is CVSU having joint ventures with the Brittenum Brothers?

Brittenum Brothers Entertainment, Inc.

Weren't they guilty of identity theft?

Hope they just have the same last names...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Why? Do you think its a bad thing for singers to get arrested? Well it didn't hurt Jim Morrisson, Paul McCartney, David Crosby, Axel Rose, Ray Charles, Nicklebacks lead singer, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Bob Dylan, Dave Grohl, Vince Neil, Ozzy Osbourne, David Crosby, Kid Rock, Chubby Checker, Bo Bice, and every rapper on Earth.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
lol..good one
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Read all of 8K, pretty solid IMO, some legalese that is difficult to interpret but overall no major red flags. Anyone else read through or have concerns?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
Read all of 8K, pretty solid IMO, some legalese that is difficult to interpret but overall no major red flags. Anyone else read through or have concerns?

i printed the thing out and have read and re-read...I am not finding anything...
This just seems to good...but I will take it if they're givin' it...

Any one find anything bad? c'mon people...??
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I haven't read or seen anything that throws any red flags. Everything looks great. I think the upcoming days and weeks will be amazing. JMO
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
ya, am running onto some questions, as a "hold" type play...still like tomorrow's chances...
 
Posted by permanentjaun on :
 
Running tomorrow too you think?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tex...no warning signs as of yet? If I say Purl's name 3X will she come and look at it? LOL...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by permanentjaun:
Running tomorrow too you think?

More than today, with a lot of new money and even those who decide to buy back in tomorrow. JMO
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by permanentjaun:
Running tomorrow too you think?

More than today, with a lot of new money and even those who decide to buy back in tomorrow. JMO
Wasn't it Skip that said everyone would "freak out and buy"...LOL
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by permanentjaun:
Running tomorrow too you think?

good chance to 36-38, cuz of da buzz...lol, trying to figger a way to hit it...will be gone well before open.

Long range, "hints" are showing up re financials...

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12003705

this guy, "Tim" runs what *seems* to be one of the better pump dealies, PQL whatever, and seems to be saying the "assets" are questionable, plus wonders about the balance sheet.

I have *not* checked these leads...

Perhaps adding to "buzz," though, supposedly CEO will be on ***.com tomorrow am... working on that link now...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tex...no warning signs as of yet? If I say Purl's name 3X will she come and look at it? LOL...

couldn't hurt--be wonderful if she'd follow up on those leads re i-hub link
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
ahh.. see, the CEO thingee is starred-out... an indicator of pro-company spin rather than a news interview... still checking on that...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Purl Gurl could give us some great DD here, and then probably post some naked pictures of herself...lol.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thats 2x her name has been said...she claims 3x...
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
No radio interview tomorrow on m n 1 . c o m,
will likely be Friday at 1000 slot
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tex...the link you gave..."he" refers to this as universal express-ish USXP..never filed about any "buying"...they only "talked" about it right?

But the point of the other companies assets and what not was one of my questions or concerns...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
No radio interview tomorrow on m n 1 . c o m,
will likely be Friday at 1000 slot

are you "Mike"?

heard on SPR that "Rufus from FHAL will be on our show 10:45 Eastern tomorrow morning" ....

any insight?
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
No, I don't know anything about a SPR interview, checked the m n 1 website and they are booked tomorrow, read elsewhere that a 1000 slot on Fri was open
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
PURL GURL? PURL GURL? PURL GURL?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
"checked the m n 1 website and they are booked tomorrow"

well, "mike" who claims to be affiliated with m n 1. com radio said on SPR that he had received confirmation of CEO Rufus on m n 1. com tomorrow (Thurs) at 10:45 Eastern. So far, their web site has *not* been updated to reflect that--we agree on that, for sure...
 
Posted by permanentjaun on :
 
Beetle Juice. Beetle Juice. Beetle Juice!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Nope...no beetle juice or purl gurl...no one showed...guess we don't have to share the $....
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
No radio interview tomorrow on m n 1 . c o m,
will likely be Friday at 1000 slot

are you "Mike"?

heard on SPR that "Rufus from FHAL will be on our show 10:45 Eastern tomorrow morning" ....

any insight?

sorry, posted too quickly...

should read "heard on SPR that M N 1 says 'Rufus from FHAL ...."
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Thanks for the info Tex, maybe they are bumping a less important company (or should I say news worthy) for the time slot, what a kick in the pants for that company
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
No, I don't know anything about a SPR interview, checked the m n 1 website and they are booked tomorrow, read elsewhere that a 1000 slot on Fri was open

Busy my azz! What are you guys talking about?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
No, I don't know anything about a SPR interview, checked the m n 1 website and they are booked tomorrow, read elsewhere that a 1000 slot on Fri was open

Busy my azz! What are you guys talking about?
lol, Non Sequitur Post of the Month!
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Wishful thinking maybe, but confirmation of the Amazon deal tomorrow would put this thing over the top....I spoke with CVSU CEO today and he assured me that they were definitly moving forward on that front
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
I think the reason why some people sold off towards the end of the day was because most didn't understand the news completely. Many people, myself included thought FHAL shareholders would have to get the hardcopy certs and go through that whole mess. I was tempted to sell for that reason alone. But now we realize that FHAL shareholders don't have to do anything. This is going to rock in the AM! I'm predicting high 40's atleast by midmorning.
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
yeah...profit taking today should help us tomorrow
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Tex,

I heard the same thing tonight on SubPennyRadio. Mike the Analyst, instant messaged Simon and said that the new CEO of Fronthaul, Rufus, would be interviewed tommorrow between 9 and 11 AM CDT.

That's what I heard and I'm stickin to it.

On another note. I have read through that filing about a dozen times now looking for the KINK, I can't find one. With all the BUZZ going on tonight on ALL the message boards I have to believe that interest in this is sky high. Personally I'm looking for a nice Gap and run in the AM. I looked at today's Level 2's and just as a wild wild guess, we see .50 and then retrace from there ending up around .38 to .40. Unless that interview tommorrow is killer then who knows.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Hopefully they will speak of the Amazon deal...We may have found a real nice one here...aka got lucky
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Thanks, Wally...that was sure my take on M N 1.

The long-range questions I have stem from "Tim" of PQL, who also called...hence the i-hub link. If we are to believe him, he has gone beyond the filings and traced out the supposed assets...part of which he contends are low-rated bonds that have not traded/no volume since March...hence, of questionable value.
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
I agree Wally, this will see the 40 to 50's in the morning. I bought some in the low 30's today and looking to pickup some more in the AM. This is easy money IMO. Today's PR were just the beginning, there will be more to come. No company, and I mean no company puts out a PR like that and leaves it. They will be following up for sure and 2maro's interview is a great indiction. Everyone who's had experience trading penny stocks knows how a continuous flow of PR's just continues to boost the PPS. Look at USXP, that was non-stop and the price went sky high. I'm predicting a mutlibagger from these levels.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
Thanks, Wally...that was sure my take on M N 1.

The long-range questions I have stem from "Tim" of PQL, who also called...hence the i-hub link. If we are to believe him, he has gone beyond the filings and traced out the supposed assets...part of which he contends are low-rated bonds that have not traded/no volume since March...hence, of questionable value.

Don't get me wrong, I did read his comments and understand the concerns, yet He stated that he wasn't very familiar with the Note or Bonds. I intend to do some DD on those shortly. But like I replied to him until we do the DD it is senseless to speculate. Hopefully we can get some type of answer from Rufus tommorrow regarding that issue because at this time it is the only possible negative. I'm cautiously optomistic at this time. I was lucky enough to have bought last week at .10 and sold enough today to protect my capital, as someone point out recently and take a small profit as well. I'm riding free right now and am NOT advocating that anyone jump in until they are comfortable with making a move. Regardless of all this I do believe we will see a move in the morning because all of us penny traders love to speculate.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Now I don't know if Tim from PQL Research took any of this into consideration.

http://www.waatle.com/index.html


Current Joint Venture Corporations



American International Smart Structures

Brittenum Brothers Entertainment, Inc.

Rocky Road Records, Inc.

Seko Management Inc.



Current Subsidiaries

Tserof Holdings Inc

CVSU Coffee Shop

Equine Solutions Inc.

Stargate Productions, Inc.



Merger Subsidiaries

Live Mortgage Free

Federal Chamber of Commerce

Center State Beverage

LotteryFever.com

InfinityOne Inc.

Amruss Group, LLC

LoanShoppers.com


Conversion Solutions, Inc.
125 TownPark Drive Suite 300
Kennesaw, GA 30144
www.cvsu.us

Phone: (770) 420-8270
Fax: (404) 393-9824
Copyright © 2005 Conversion Solutions, Inc.
 
Posted by skip on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by permanentjaun:
Running tomorrow too you think?

More than today, with a lot of new money and even those who decide to buy back in tomorrow. JMO
Wasn't it Skip that said everyone would "freak out and buy"...LOL
This is huge on all of the boards! Freak out and buy! haha! love it...
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
the original fhal log deal, imo would have put this stock in the 5.0 dollar range, do not believe this will play out as typical penny deal, ummm, maybe super huge gap in the morning, hard to tell.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
alot of us would say how big fhal would be, even when we still did not have a contract, I guess we all pumped this stock, but man, did not even see this deal coming. now we have rock solid facts, we are just lucky......... ha, ha.
 
Posted by rickachiu on :
 
FHAL has 5 employees with a total of net income of -$500,000 last year. Why are they worth so much? Why would Brasil award them the contract if they are so small? Where's the $800,000,000 in assets?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
Now I don't know if Tim from PQL Research took any of this into consideration.

http://www.waatle.com/index.html


Current Joint Venture Corporations



American International Smart Structures

Brittenum Brothers Entertainment, Inc.

Rocky Road Records, Inc.

Seko Management Inc.



Current Subsidiaries

Tserof Holdings Inc

CVSU Coffee Shop

Equine Solutions Inc.

Stargate Productions, Inc.



Merger Subsidiaries

Live Mortgage Free

Federal Chamber of Commerce

Center State Beverage

LotteryFever.com

InfinityOne Inc.

Amruss Group, LLC

LoanShoppers.com


Conversion Solutions, Inc.
125 TownPark Drive Suite 300
Kennesaw, GA 30144
www.cvsu.us

Phone: (770) 420-8270
Fax: (404) 393-9824
Copyright © 2005 Conversion Solutions, Inc.

I don't know, either, Wally...wish I could stay and help figger it out, but will be leaving in about 20 minutes...
 
Posted by pennyaddict71 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rickachiu:
FHAL has 5 employees with a total of net income of -$500,000 last year. Why are they worth so much? Why would Brasil award them the contract if they are so small? Where's the $800,000,000 in assets?

another thing, I was in this at .14 on the last run and sold for a loss, the not for profit company that is giving FHAL this contract (Ceota I believe they are called) Ceota just appeared out of nowhere April of this year, they did not exist prior to April 2006, I found this out after calling them, it made me a little uneasy.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
That's interesting. The CEOTA guy on the radio conference the other day kept saying how they've had the Amazon license for several years now and have renewed it with no problems every year.

I'm guessing they decided to become a non-profit organization to save the rainforest with this license being their main deal.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by pennyaddict71:
quote:
Originally posted by rickachiu:
FHAL has 5 employees with a total of net income of -$500,000 last year. Why are they worth so much? Why would Brasil award them the contract if they are so small? Where's the $800,000,000 in assets?

another thing, I was in this at .14 on the last run and sold for a loss, the not for profit company that is giving FHAL this contract (Ceota I believe they are called) Ceota just appeared out of nowhere April of this year, they did not exist prior to April 2006, I found this out after calling them, it made me a little uneasy.
Are you implying you think this is a scam?
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by pennyaddict71:
quote:
Originally posted by rickachiu:
FHAL has 5 employees with a total of net income of -$500,000 last year. Why are they worth so much? Why would Brasil award them the contract if they are so small? Where's the $800,000,000 in assets?

another thing, I was in this at .14 on the last run and sold for a loss, the not for profit company that is giving FHAL this contract (Ceota I believe they are called) Ceota just appeared out of nowhere April of this year, they did not exist prior to April 2006, I found this out after calling them, it made me a little uneasy.
I believe the $800,000,000 is in reference to CVSU not FHAL.
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
i believe they are jistgettin everything lined up to jerk them logs and make us a hole lot of cash
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
and can u say 800 million and 1.5 billion in logs , those are huge numbers [Eek!]
 
Posted by QuestSolver on :
 
Looks like FHAL and CLBE will continue again today per L2!! i think CLBE once it breaks the teens agin will do an easy double like FHAL did also from the teens!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
gapping

265x27
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Should be an interesting day. Hopefully it will be interesting in a positive way. I think a quick PR explaining all the positives and denouncing some of the negatives of this deal would make this puppy fly. Of course, it may fly anyway.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i think stock will perform better than ndol did...they went from 20 cents to 1.5 dollar in a month and i think we will do the same move and maybe go even a bit higher... lets hope but it looks good imo
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
The bid and ask are up. Gap starting????
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
27x28
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
.275 x .29

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
.28x.29 1x2
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
O HAPPY DAY
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Ten utters,

"PURL GURL? PURL GURL? PURL GURL?"

SHAAAAA... ZAM!

* fireworks like flash, big sparking cloud of smoke *

KAAAAA.... BOOM!

* a wild eyed naked Indian woman steps out *

Hi boys! What yall up to over here?

You behaving yourselves or does Momma need
to give you good spanking?

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
nite pushing

29x295
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Listen to Ten and Doniboy. They know what
they are doing and will not mislead you.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by skip on :
 
good morning, things are looking great!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Hey Purl, I need a spanking but that is beside the point. We are having a good time over here in FHAL land, but some of the boys were wondering what you thought about yesterday's 8-k filing.
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
.29x.30

Nothing from .36 to .51
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
nite wants to move this hes at 295 on bid and 32 on ask
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Doniboy, a little later I will look over this
stock and give you some opinions which will
probably cause high anxiety. I need to take
care of business at market open.

You know your stuff, Doniboy. People know they
can trust you and Ten.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks Purl! Take care of your business and if you get the time...I for one would love to hear your opinion on this...!
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
Profit taking and filling the gap. Hopefully we bounce off yesterday's close.
 
Posted by rickachiu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hbomb:
quote:
Originally posted by pennyaddict71:
quote:
Originally posted by rickachiu:
FHAL has 5 employees with a total of net income of -$500,000 last year. Why are they worth so much? Why would Brasil award them the contract if they are so small? Where's the $800,000,000 in assets?

another thing, I was in this at .14 on the last run and sold for a loss, the not for profit company that is giving FHAL this contract (Ceota I believe they are called) Ceota just appeared out of nowhere April of this year, they did not exist prior to April 2006, I found this out after calling them, it made me a little uneasy.
I believe the $800,000,000 is in reference to CVSU not FHAL.
Why would a company with $800,000,000 in assets do a merge with a company of 5 employees with such a horible income and do a 1 to 1 stock swap which should be worth over $7 after the merge? Why is a pink stock CVSU not even traded?
I wanted to buy this stock but it just didn't make sense.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
In development stages a company cannot be judged by its income.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
indeed doni, the number of employees is not a good parameter to comment your investment decision on...this is a good company and the price will go higher imo
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
NITE sitting on the ASK
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
rick..you are right..it doesn't make sense..for right now..you can't look at it as an investment...you need to look at it as a play...make some Money and see where it goes...but always protect your capital!
You can only do what you are comfortable with...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
we need a pr to clarify everything, then this goes skyward
 
Posted by rickachiu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
and can u say 800 million and 1.5 billion in logs , those are huge numbers [Eek!]

The $1.5 Billion in logs sounds impressive.
Same as: there's $10 Trillions worth of gold in the worlds ocean and I have license/contract to get them. Would you buy my stock base on the $10 Trillion or my ability to get them. BTW, I don't think I can get an ounce.. in my lifetime.
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
risk is everywhere, i just wanna make some cash [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so what do we expect here...it'll stay here until this evening...maybe retrace to .25,.26 or so...then people buy up in the late hours in anticipation of an explanatory PR?

it's fun to speculate...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Kinda lookin like the gap is an MM headfake....Sucked a bunch of people in at the open then picked there pockets...

Should fill the gap in a bit....Standing by for entry...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
risk is everywhere, i just wanna make some cash [Big Grin]

YEP! ride the ride...get out...move on!

Rick aside from your opinion...anything factual that is stopping you from "liking" this one?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think we'll be going over .30 in just a second.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
sold some at .305 on the open, waiting to see if she falls to the .225 support then ill snatch some more up :-)
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Press conf on *** at 0945 central time
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
how strong is this .28? Have we set a base here?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
*** is a great station...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Mnvestor...are you listening? Can you give us a report when finished?
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
in at .028
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Welcome fish man!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
lots of .30's going through.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
looks like we had a little wall at .30, but I think we'll be breaking through soon.
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
10, Well, saw the ladies in here...I'm easy I guess.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
m n 1 . c o m
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Must be a lot of resistance there.
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
Breaking wall .30 in few trades...pr should help soar this...
 
Posted by Bland on :
 
Check the PR...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
This looks a lot like yesterday morning. Sat at .18 for a long time and then it just started flying. Let's get to .4 today.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
alright guys im out for the day, got an order in for .225 and half of my position still in this, lets hope for the best
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
This goes to .4 after pr or even right before pr
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':
10, Well, saw the ladies in here...I'm easy I guess.

So that's how you trade? [Wink]
Is that some type of tading prostitution? LOL
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
10--------> me is LOL
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
m n 1 . c o m

this is today's schedule of press conferences

9:00 AM : China Direct Trading Corp (CHDT)

9:30 AM : Investigative Services Agencies Inc (IVAY)

10:00 AM : NextPhase Wireless Inc (NXPW)

10:15 AM : Natural Harmony Foods, Inc (NHYF)

10:30 AM : Sun New Media Inc (SNMD)

11:00 AM : *Road Inc (ARDI)

11:30 AM : Perfisans Holdings Inc (PFNH)

I dont see an interview with FHAL [Confused]
 
Posted by Bland on :
 
Don't worry... My name is Stinson Bland I work for M N 1 . c o m and I've scheduled with Rufus to come on at 9:45 Central Time.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
oh ok thank you!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Doniboy, you still in this.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I am in. I was actually thinking about throwing a few more bucks at it.
 
Posted by Bland on :
 
No problem... the PR hit the wire!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Bland any idea why I can't get the player to work
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
We'll be moving up again soon. JMO
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Confirmed on *** that Rufus is on at 9.45 CST (in 15 minutes)
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Coming up in 15 minutes...after James Miller
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
The New CEO Of the FrontHaul Group Is to Join ***.com Thursday, July 13, 2006 at 9:45 a.m. CDT


2006-07-13 10:26 ET - News Release

ROCKWALL, TX -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 07/13/06


The FrontHaul Group (OTCBB: FHAL) has gone through a recent transformation and Market News first would like to invite you to join us in welcoming Rufus Paul Harris the new CEO of this company for an Live Exclusive Discussion.

The FrontHaul Group is a publicly held Delaware corporation with branch offices in Rockwall, TX. The FrontHaul Group expects to grow their business specifically in the areas of 3rd party logistics, which includes but is not limited too Transportation Brokerage and Motor Carrier services.

The Company has recently signed a letter of intent with CEOTA and The Brazilian Government to have the exclusive rights in removing the sunken logs from the Amazon River.

Join Rufus Paul Harris, CEO FrontHaul Group, Mike the Analyst, and Dick Hunter today at 9:45 a.m. CDT on ***.com.

About ***.com

Market News First is an online microcap news provider which brings investors current up to speed news on the microcap market. Market News First is the only online live radio web site that brings real microcap news to investors and features live interaction with companies from the Bulletin Board, Pink Sheets, and Amex.

Through daily live pressers we bring you up to date on all the established companies and inform the investors of the newest opportunities within the microcap market. Market News First's one on one interviews with the Presidents and CFOs of microcap companies, broadcasted on our website, delivers answers to the questions that microcap investors would ask and provides them insight into the companies' present condition and future plans.


Contact:
Rufus Paul Harris
678.255.7650

Stinson Bland
Market News First
469-385-9855
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Just confirmation.

FHAL -- Fronthaul Group, Inc. (The)
Com ($0.001)

COMPANY NEWS AND PRESS RELEASES FROM OTHER SOURCES:

The New CEO Of the FrontHaul Group Is to Join ***.com Thursday, July 13, 2006 at 9:45 a.m. CDT

ROCKWALL, TX, Jul 13, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- The FrontHaul Group (OTCBB: FHAL) has gone through a recent transformation and Market News first would like to invite you to join us in welcoming Rufus Paul Harris the new CEO of this company for an Live Exclusive Discussion.
The FrontHaul Group is a publicly held Delaware corporation with branch offices in Rockwall, TX. The FrontHaul Group expects to grow their business specifically in the areas of 3rd party logistics, which includes but is not limited too Transportation Brokerage and Motor Carrier services.

The Company has recently signed a letter of intent with CEOTA and The Brazilian Government to have the exclusive rights in removing the sunken logs from the Amazon River.

Join Rufus Paul Harris, CEO FrontHaul Group, Mike the Analyst, and Dick Hunter today at 9:45 a.m. CDT on ***.com.

About ***.com

Market News First is an online microcap news provider which brings investors current up to speed news on the microcap market. Market News First is the only online live radio web site that brings real microcap news to investors and features live interaction with companies from the Bulletin Board, Pink Sheets, and Amex.

Through daily live pressers we bring you up to date on all the established companies and inform the investors of the newest opportunities within the microcap market. Market News First's one on one interviews with the Presidents and CFOs of microcap companies, broadcasted on our website, delivers answers to the questions that microcap investors would ask and provides them insight into the companies' present condition and future plans.


Contact:
Rufus Paul Harris
678.255.7650
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
News out. M N 1 interview scheduled......DUH.
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
this is a minimum $1 stock and more ...with this big news...few more prs...9:45 cst to start with
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Is Rufus going to be on ***??
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I love the name Rufus... It sounds so Trailer Park...
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
LOL
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Rufus makes me think of George Carlin in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure [Smile]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Rufus sounds like a Texan.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I see we've grabbed the attention of the xkem folks. Good to see all of you. Curious to hear Purl Gurl's take.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
why is it tanking
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Anybody listening to this guy on M N 1? I don't think he is helping his PI company
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Why the hell is it tanking? People selling on news? That wasn't news, it was announcement. Jeez.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Know a guy who has a dog named Rufus.....NO chit..lol
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jos_tul:
this is a minimum $1 stock and more ...with this big news...few more prs...9:45 cst to start with

Why do you say a 1$?
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
why is it tanking

just fillin the gap ,good call river
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
MM's collecting Stop Losses
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Know a guy who has a dog named Rufus.....NO chit..lol

I had a black shepherd named Rufus! loved him!
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Know a guy who has a dog named Rufus.....NO chit..lol

I know a dog who has an owner named Rufus...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
He's just coming on right now.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I can't get the player to work if someone could keep us unfortunate one's updated it'd surely appreciated. TIA
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
My cuts out every once and awhile.
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
They can't get him on the line??
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
He hasn't "showed"....not good?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Sheeet, they better get him on the line.
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
any news yet...from conf call... I saw the rates are as follow..to extract logs from water...

60$ per log if directly out of water
320$ per cubic meter to brazil market
1200$ per cubic meter to US

and there are 4000+ miles...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I added more here. Lets go baby, get that CEO on the line.
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Maybe Rufus was online and got insulted? [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Rufus where are you at????????????
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
showing resistance at .235 - .245 for sometime now
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
guy from Knobias is talking about FrontHaul
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
This isn't sounding good...
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
any idea when is the next pr ?
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Knobias guy explaining the 8K and the PR...says that they are not confusing...they are absorbing the shell...CVSU bought the shell and changed the name from Fronthaul to Conversion...
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Doni, grabbed another position at .235 as well.
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Tim enquiring about the 500 million note and another note as asset guarantee against collateral...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I sold all my Mastercard (MA) and picked up more shares.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Rufus is on now....
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
He's here
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
WE HAVE RUFUS!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
He sounds like a Rufus...
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
shew
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
LOL
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
hooray Rufus!!! hooray beer!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
another guy from FHAL had joined the talk...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
OK, so Rufus isn't a great Public Speaker. He should hire a PR guy.
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
stock trading almost stopped at .235-.24 waiting for PR to finish...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
OK, so Rufus isn't a great Public Speaker. He should hire a PR guy.

Me thinks you are correct!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Amazon deal is still a go!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
100% of resources into amazon logging deal...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I was just on after Tim's question and I'm sure most of you heard but they plan on going full steam with the log recovery from the amazon
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
FHAL symbol alive for 15 more days then it is CVSU. FHAL shareholders do not have to fill out any paperwork.
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
go baby..go...into the .40s...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
OK, so Rufus isn't a great Public Speaker. He should hire a PR guy.

Me thinks you are correct!
That's for sure!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Woo hoo! Amazon!

No split!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
There will not be any splits at this time.
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Go-----------> Rufus, meekly hope'n....
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
and the ask pops finally...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I don't think you could ask for anything better this is incredible. IMO
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
breaking out of the .235-.245 barrier..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I was not impressed...
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
ask - .235, .24, .245 , .25...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I was not impressed...

I think there were to many people on the line trying to talk.
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
.26
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
me is green now, so there 10! LOL
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
is the pr over yet..or still goin on ?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
jsut turned green myself...that is a nice feeling, lol...i added more * .24 myself...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
They answered some very important questions(all positive), I wish more time would have been spent talking to them.
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
The call was not impressive. But who cares. Evertything positive. Even the Amazon deal. No split at this time. CVSU is merged into FHAL. Look at the MMs lining up on L2.
 
Posted by Bland on :
 
We had more time scheduled for Rufus and Ben but they showed up late... sorry guys!

Go to MarketNewFirst and post some questions in the forum. We will try to get those guys to log-on and answer questions... If nothing else, I'll print them out and get them in the hands of these guys.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
assets are liquid per COO if needed, so 800+ million is as stated in 8K
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jordanm:
The call was not impressive. But who cares. Evertything positive. Even the Amazon deal. No split at this time. CVSU is merged into FHAL. Look at the MMs lining up on L2.

agreed now lets take a ride
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
He's not a great speaker that doesn't mean he's not a good business man. I think no splits is a huge plus. The guys on the show before Rufus called in I don't know if it was Mike. They said this was amazing for the shareholders now we have to wait and see
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
didn't have to change me pants, but it was close...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':
me is green now, so there 10! LOL

LOL...OK so they answered the questions...let's just hope they stick to "written PR's"...it would do the stock good....
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think a lot of other CEO's in that position would have never shown up. Better late then never.
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
can somebody sum up the call for those who could listen to it please ?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
The studio people were not prepared and it made for a lousy interview. There was information that was good.

FHAL shares will stay the same no need to get certs. They are going full steam ahead with the logging project in the Amazon. They will be getting credits for each log they extract from the Amazon and according to Rufus, those credits will end up being worth more than the logs themselves.

Stev from Knobias was on and stated that he has spoken to Rufus yesterday and felt that this deal was high positive to shareholders.

Taht's all for now
GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I'm in ... .24 If it hits that .17 # I was lookin at I will be major pissed..
 
Posted by Bland on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
The studio people were not prepared and it made for a lousy interview. There was information that was good.

FHAL shares will stay the same no need to get certs. They are going full steam ahead with the logging project in the Amazon. They will be getting credits for each log they extract from the Amazon and according to Rufus, those credits will end up being worth more than the logs themselves.

Stev from Knobias was on and stated that he has spoken to Rufus yesterday and felt that this deal was high positive to shareholders.

Taht's all for now
GLTA
Wally

M N 1 was prepared... the CVSU guys showed up late.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
I'm in ... .24 If it hits that .17 # I was lookin at I will be major pissed..

I was only seeing 22 as the low...but we have established that you are much better at the charts...this one time...we'll hope I was right... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Let's get this movin' now...we need some more buying pressure....
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
17? stop that! thats shuddering me timbers! LOL

couldn't resist the logs...Newbe's pay no mind to me, at this time.....I'm in and having some fun, and hopefully will make some money...

Watch the posting of the ones who have expieriance with this stock...Looks like 10 is level headed in that department.

Would complement others, but heck, they are just the guys.....And someone says us guys is just boyz...Go figger..
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Welcome Maumee.

Its true that Rufus is not a good speaker. It's also true that the interviewers did a crap job. Rufus wanted to answer questions, they had none.

Ultimately I was happy, if Rufus had sounded like PT Barnum I would have thought he was a scam artist. At least we know he is not a con man, no con man speaks that slowly.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LMAO... Doni!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Welcome Maumee.

Its true that Rufus is not a good speaker. It's also true that the interviewers did a crap job. Rufus wanted to answer questions, they had none.

Ultimately I was happy, if Rufus had sounded like PT Barnum I would have thought he was a scam artist. At least we know he is not a con man, no con man speaks that slowly.

LMAO [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
the ultimate conman perhaps? make himself sound like forrest gump then run away into the rainforest with our money, lol...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':
17? stop that! thats shuddering me timbers! LOL

Wow !!! That was bad Dusty!!! LOL
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee...or anyone that's good with charts...do you still see resistance at .51? After the .34 or so?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
There were some other important things that were said.

They are going full steam ahead with the Amazon logging project and will be recieving ecco credits from the world bank for each log that is pulled out of the Amazon. Rufus said that the revenue from the credits could be worth more than the logs themselves. No splits. No need for FHAL sharesholders to get Cert.

Also Steve from Knobias stated that this deal was very positive for shareholders.

I blame the interviewers for the presentation. Just like last week they seem too busy joking around to ask the proper questions and then just threw it straight to investor questions. I think Rufus and Ben were expecting a professional interview with the questions comming from the radio hosts and were thrown off when it didn't happen.

Just my take on things.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
the ultimate conman perhaps? make himself sound like forrest gump then run away into the rainforest with our money, lol...

Like I said, he sounds like a Texan. (J/K Tex)
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
why is this tanking now ? [Frown]
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
OUCH!!!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
tanking...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
jeese...here comes .17
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
About .48 today 10...Right now I'm lookin at that .17 more closely... Should have waited to jump in
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
wow i love this dip...now when to get back in is the question
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Uh Oh'
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
MAUMEE...looks like you were right!!! yuck!
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
ouch
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
ask popping...up again
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Just doesn't seem to have that much volume to drop like this...is it a fake/shake?
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
Perhaps, might load up here on some more shares.
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
up into .20 s...pull back to buy more from MM probably
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Row, row,----> down the maumee river, geez man almost a bullseye..LOL
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
so 15 days the symbol changes right? cvsu isn't being traded correct? so if they put that combined price at $7 something... am i thinking right?
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Think of it as a sale on dollar stock...we have assests that are liquid, a project with all resources to accomplish, and a CEO that is from the Dukes of Hazard..I'm buying more...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee..can you give me chart reading classes? You seem to call them right on!!!...
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
speeding up ask increasing fast .21 ...2150 ..22 .23
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i averaged down to .244

shoulda waited...oh well...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Damn you Scottrade. I have a maintance call, but I have a money balance too. Went to buy more at .2 and it wouldn't let me.
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
River,
Would complement others, but heck, they are just the guys.....And someone says us guys is just boyz...Go figger..
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
It bounced off support there... the longer it stays at these levels the better .17 is not bottom untill around 12:30 eastern if it drops befor that.....16 possible... I shoulda waited....
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
OK, I threw up in my mouth a little. But I still see this going up. Maybe way up. People want to be dazzled by a performing circus money, not a Texan named Rufus. Holding strong. Rufus may not speak well, but I'm banking on him bringing home the green.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':
River,
Would complement others, but heck, they are just the guys.....And someone says us guys is just boyz...Go figger..

I refuse to grow up anyways!!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Another point to consider, cvsu has a solid management team (check background from website), they will likely be running the show, they have a successful business already in place
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
OK, I threw up in my mouth a little. But I still see this going up. Maybe way up. People want to be dazzled by a performing circus money, not a Texan named Rufus. Holding strong. Rufus may not speak well, but I'm banking on him bringing home the green.

howd it taste? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i was going to ask if this was popping back up to fast but it appears to be settling a bit...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
OK, I threw up in my mouth a little. But I still see this going up. Maybe way up. People want to be dazzled by a performing circus money, not a Texan named Rufus. Holding strong. Rufus may not speak well, but I'm banking on him bringing home the green.

howd it taste? [Big Grin]
Probably like Amazon River water!
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by BLACKBEARD:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
OK, I threw up in my mouth a little. But I still see this going up. Maybe way up. People want to be dazzled by a performing circus money, not a Texan named Rufus. Holding strong. Rufus may not speak well, but I'm banking on him bringing home the green.

howd it taste? [Big Grin]
Probably like Amazon River water!
LOL!!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
It tasted like bitter failure for a minute. But I checked my nerves at the door. This one is a winner boys. Hold on to your sack and tough it out. [Smile]
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
if it goes to 16? me gonna waaaaaaa like a little boy..
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
just buy more and average down
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':
if it goes to 16? me gonna waaaaaaa like a little boy..

I may join yah...but girls cry louder! i grabbed more at .23...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Lookin good here....Needs to get over .26 now for better support..
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
People need to reread 8k, as cvsu mergers into FHAL there liquid assests will follow, do the math and this will go higher
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
well I`m back in at .19 been trying to find the holes in this deal but i cant! CVSU has an 800 million dollar bond portfolio, it takes money to make money and they seem to have ALOT of money. the logging project is still on ( i thought that would bo away )witch will bring in more money, they spoke of credits, big companies buy enviro credits like we buy stock to offset gains and reduce compliance costs, very solid and smart. i like what i have read and heard. let see how this plays out,
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
"witch will bring in more money"
which one, from the east or west
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
It tasted like bitter failure for a minute. But I checked my nerves at the door. This one is a winner boys. Hold on to your sack and tough it out. [Smile]

10 you will have to hang on to sumthin else....or someone else!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
It tasted like bitter failure for a minute. But I checked my nerves at the door. This one is a winner boys. Hold on to your sack and tough it out. [Smile]

10 you will have to hang on to sumthin else....or someone else!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
I have my own things to grab and hold!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
It tasted like bitter failure for a minute. But I checked my nerves at the door. This one is a winner boys. Hold on to your sack and tough it out. [Smile]

10 you will have to hang on to sumthin else....or someone else!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
I have my own things to grab and hold!!
PLease elaborate, with pictures and graphs.
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
nice play madmoney.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
OK ...We needed that uptic....Must stay above 21 or we will see 17...IMO

hey 10!!! It's your stuff!!!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':
nice play madmoney.

thanks BLUE took a chance on a dip, left for a while came back and i was filled! I dont see 7 bucks anytime soon but a dollar plus! is almost a given! good luck!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
[Big Grin] And there's more to hold!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
you should diet then...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
It's a rather large spread...
.20-.229
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
I have an oppointment, have fun folks..Whale? if she comes by? your all on your own! She seems to of sounded......Shuddering yet? LOL

BTW, I respect whales.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
you should diet then...

Nah...I'm good where I am at!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':
I have an oppointment, have fun folks..Whale? if she comes by? your all on your own! She seems to of sounded......Shuddering yet? LOL

Coward!
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
yelp yelp-----------> but still holding,later
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
palying ping pong at .20-.22
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
So fhal will be around for around 15 more days. Man I wish I had a crystal ball to see what will happen during those times. Has anyone here ever spoken to Rufus?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I spoke to him(Rufus) yesterday, sounded the same way on the phone.
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
any idea why still tanking ?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Call him again Cassity. You're the phone guy here. Let him know that we think an explanatory PR would help his investors understand the companies future actions. His interview didn't help as much as we hoped.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Hey 10!!!

Jump above and read the three posts starting with the one you wrote at 12;07..... Just read that one and the following two and tell me if it sounds...well ....it made me laugh..
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
awww crap! missed this morning to come back to this.. geez.. wtf is wrong with FHAL..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LMFAO!...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
How come people are so scared to call company's, I'm always shocked when I get through and most of the time I probably sound a lot like Rufus did this morning. UHHH, what our ya guys gonna do with dem der logs in the Amizon rivver.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I noticed that too River Rat, but had way too much class to mention it... [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Hey 10!!!

Jump above and read the three posts starting with the one you wrote at 12;07..... Just read that one and the following two and tell me if it sounds...well ....it made me laugh..


 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
shouldn't tomorrow be even worse? with the big friday sell off....
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Come on Doniboy, just call don't be afraid!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'm not scared to call anybody, but I am at work and my boss is two offices over. lol

quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
How come people are so scared to call company's, I'm always shocked when I get through and most of the time I probably sound a lot like Rufus did this morning. UHHH, what our ya guys gonna do with dem der logs in the Amizon rivver.


 
Posted by rickachiu on :
 
I read that CVSU is a pink stock, but why isn't being traded?
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
I called...got his voicemail...I'll post if he calls me back
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
comming up! .22 X .228
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
just got another position 2450shrs at 12:36:07 hrs. at .022 did not show on my last sale Ameritrade....I'm late! gotta go..
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
moron selling below the bid... wtf
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Think she might give us a little bit here...Geting avove .27 may be tricky....
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
I got in at .16 so I'm still green but I thought we'd bounce off yesterday's close and hit .40 today. Needless to say I was WRONG.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
so now, i wonder who would be holding to see thru the merger.. it would seem like a good idea, but the activities don't really support it.. *sigh*.. we need some majorly experienced folks to shed some light in here..
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I don't have any worries about this. Very confident. People have tried to find problems, but haven't as of today. I think we are just being held down for a while. A little patience and we'll be goin higher then ever. JMO
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
looks like we're growing some legs.. just hate those tiny sells below the bid to bring it down..
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
It would also be nice if idiots stopped selling below the bid.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
I don't have any worries about this. Very confident. People have tried to find problems, but haven't as of today. I think we are just being held down for a while. A little patience and we'll be goin higher then ever. JMO

I agree! lots of room left in this one! new highs are comming.
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
I bought in at .23 earlier this morning..the dip to .17 was a little scary but now its back to .23. L2's show ask at .235 , .24 (4), .27 (2) and up so lets hope the rest of day (and week) continues upward after that huge dip from .32 to .17.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
It would also be nice if idiots stopped selling below the bid.

B/A bouncing around, some are probably trading based on delayed L2 quotes! not smart! real time L2`s are a must have when trading pinks!!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
creeping up, B/A .23 X .235
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
madmoney, it look like will be going to .24 soon to you?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
hard to say, volume is low needs to pick up. honestly this could go either way right now. may run up later, PR`s should be comming out on several issues anytime. ETRD and HDSN raised thier ask to .27 in the last few minutes, current ask is .22
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
One pr and we will be cruising.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think a lot of people might be waiting for it to dip a little lower. Maybe it's like CBAY, nothing all day and a rise at the end?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
One pr and we will be cruising.

thats the thing here, there are PR`s on the way, at least a couple and they should be VERY GOOD. like i said- new highs are comming!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Has anybody noticed when you try to go to FHAL website you are redirected to CVSU's website?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Has anybody noticed when you try to go to FHAL website you are redirected to CVSU's website?

Cassity..do you have their website?
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
http://www.fronthaul.com
gets u to
http://cvsu.us/
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Has anybody noticed when you try to go to FHAL website you are redirected to CVSU's website?

Cassity..do you have their website?
http://www.fronthaul.com/
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
SEC filed Merger details :
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/757563/000129707706000046/fhaul8-kmergers igned.htm
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
There was one question they should have asked this morning and I might call and ask if they do intend to file to go to a higher exchange. What do ya'll think?
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
Does anybody know what was the volume traded for the yesterday and today ?
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
What would happen to the shares of OTCBB if the company said they are upgrading or opening up in NasDaq...what will happen to the shares we own ?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Here we go!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
How do L2's look, madmoney?
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
23x24 1x3
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
When is next PR for FrontHaul ? any ideas ?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jos_tul:
Does anybody know what was the volume traded for the yesterday and today ?

Yesterday 18.68 million
Today 6.24 million
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
Thanks Liv
 
Posted by rickachiu on :
 
I'm reading the 8-K report and looks like FHAL convertion is worth $0.001 per share.
If that's the case, it's way overpriced right now.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rickachiu:
I'm reading the 8-K report and looks like FHAL convertion is worth $0.001 per share.
If that's the case, it's way overpriced right now.

Par value - means nothing
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
There was one question they should have asked this morning and I might call and ask if they do intend to file to go to a higher exchange. What do ya'll think?

I think they need to establish first then think about moving to a higher exchange. It will take some time. I believe they will have to trade above $1 for 30 consecutive days before that can happen. This is still embryonic. Let's let them get their feet on solid ground.

I believe that we are sitting on a gold mine but most haven't dug deep enough to see it. I'm holding. Not suggesting this as a stragedy for anyone else just my take on it.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
looks like we may see a crash tomorrow then.. but i'm just gonna hold and see this thing through, i hope it won't be another PGPM.. doesn't seem like it..
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Bought another 7600 shares at .21
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
looks like we may see a crash tomorrow then.. but i'm just gonna hold and see this thing through, i hope it won't be another PGPM.. doesn't seem like it..

Why do you say we will see a crash tomorrow?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
last hour coming up. Will we see any buying pressure from people expecting a PR tomorrow?
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rickachiu:
I'm reading the 8-K report and looks like FHAL convertion is worth $0.001 per share.
If that's the case, it's way overpriced right now.

You must not be reading the same 8-K as I am.
quote:
http://xml.10kwizard.com/filing_raw.php?repo=tenk&ipage=4270201
On July 8, 2006, The FrontHaul Group, Inc., a Delaware corporation ("FHAL"), entered into an Agreement and Plan of Merger (the "Merger Agreement") with Conversion Solutions, Inc., a Delaware corporation ("CVSU"). The Merger Agreement contemplates that, subject to the terms and conditions of the Merger Agreement, Conversion Solutions, Inc. will be merged with and into FHAL, with FHAL continuing after the merger as the surviving corporation (the "Merger").

CVSU is merging into FHAL.
quote:
http://xml.10kwizard.com/filing_raw.php?repo=tenk&ipage=4270201
2.2 COMPANY SHARES. (a) Each share of the Company's capital stock (the "Company Shares"), par value $0.001 per share, issued and outstanding immediately prior to the Effective Time shall, by virtue of the Merger and without any action on the part of the holders thereof, be canceled and converted at the Effective Time into the right to receive the Merger Consideration (as defined below) in accordance with this ARTICLE II.

The par value share you spoke about (where you nicely left off the PAR part, is for CVSU. Those shares get converted into FHAL.

CVSU is a pink, FHAL is a OTCBB.

Everyone read the 8-K yourself, and do not pay attention to anyone on this forum, read the 8-K, then decide to buy (or sell if you feel the need). Don't listen to the bashers or the pumpers. The company release two SEC filings (8-K and the 8-K/A), read them.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
So how's the weather where you live?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by rickachiu:
I'm reading the 8-K report and looks like FHAL convertion is worth $0.001 per share.
If that's the case, it's way overpriced right now.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

par value means nothing, look at wellpiont-NYSE stock symbol WLP trading at 74 bucks a share has a par value of a penny! or sirius satelite radio symbol SIRI par value .001 trading at 4+ bucks with 10 times the O/S! your 8 posts show you need to learn a little more about the market. welcome to all stocks! if you read the 8K you can see the 800 million in bonds the company holds, plus the logging deal might be worth even more!. definately UNDER VALUED at this piont IMO! GLTY!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
tanking again. wonderful [Frown]
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
why is this tanking..oh boy... lets see what happens tomorrow...1 good pr should see this up in a matter of days.....

The fundementals of this company is great....also this type of business is so unique...in that each log literally earns money for them...

It is a gold pot...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
remember the log retrieval is a potential huge money maker. Look at all the other irons in the fire that cvsu has because that's who we are now.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
Question... evryone is waiting on the amazon deal, that is why I bought into fhal. now it's a new ballgame, cvsu is worth 800 mil. almost 1 bil. is everyone waiting to buy if the amazon deal happens. well........ what about this 800 mil. company they can purchase for 20c... man I have been loading up on it all day. the amazon deal is the icing but this company alone at the book price w/o amazon is at 7.21 [Confused]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I want $7.21 for my shares, and I want it now.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4bidon:
Question... evryone is waiting on the amazon deal, that is why I bought into fhal. now it's a new ballgame, cvsu is worth 800 mil. almost 1 bil. is everyone waiting to buy if the amazon deal happens. well........ what about this 800 mil. company they can purchase for 20c... man I have been loading up on it all day. the amazon deal is the icing but this company alone at the book price w/o amazon is at 7.21 [Confused]

it will sink in! chalk it up to pink sheet caution, I think they will move quickly into the market with an 800+ million dollar war chest to work with and potential 100`s of millions more from the amazon deal! this will rock!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
We had a big day yesterday, most of the time the following day is green. More to come. I'll be patient. Let's go.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
We had a big day yesterday, most of the time the following day is green. More to come. I'll be patient. Let's go.

Woops, meant following day is red.
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
if this stock is worth 7$+ why is it still tanking...more people panicking...it is still tanking way down..into teens now
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
got to have correction [Cool]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Unfortunately, not all of us had a big day yesterday. Some of us are not losing profits here but losing capital off our portfolios. Oh well, I am still hanging on. I believe the next PR will give us some insight in to the ability of this thing to move.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
I believe that cvsu was not after fhal for 3rd party logistics, I believe the contract is already signed. then cvsu bought the whole fhal. I think when they change the name from fhal to cvsu and change the ticker symbol they will open at 7.21 and throw the log deal at us at the same time getting everyone to buy. we might see 11.00 per share. all these people that want the log deal are sure to buy at 7.21 just to get the logs. hmmm....
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jos_tul:
if this stock is worth 7$+ why is it still tanking...more people panicking...it is still tanking way down..into teens now

all they want are the logs.....lol
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
the new ticker is not going to open at $7.21

it'll be whatever we are trading this at at that time more than likely...
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jos_tul:
if this stock is worth 7$+ why is it still tanking...more people panicking...it is still tanking way down..into teens now

people like you tend to make those people panic with your unknowledgable comments.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
You actually think that CVSU will open at $7.21??? I am a pretty optimistic guy, and I wish that what you are saying could be true, but c'mon man. Have you ever heard of that happening? A stock going up 3500% after a symbol change?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
the new ticker is not going to open at $7.21

it'll be whatever we are trading this at at that time more than likely...

thats true but I do believe it will MUTCH higher than it is now when trading starts!!
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
the new ticker is not going to open at $7.21

it'll be whatever we are trading this at at that time more than likely...

research this out, every company that changed their name, that I have seen also got a new ticker symbol. maybe I am wrong.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
You actually think that CVSU will open at $7.21??? I am a pretty optimistic guy, and I wish that what you are saying could be true, but c'mon man. Have you ever heard of that happening? A stock going up 3500% after a symbol change?

nova communications went from .005 to 2.00 overnight, just like this. waiting on a contract changed their name and ticker symbol and opened at 2.00.
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
What a S****Y day...
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4bidon:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
You actually think that CVSU will open at $7.21??? I am a pretty optimistic guy, and I wish that what you are saying could be true, but c'mon man. Have you ever heard of that happening? A stock going up 3500% after a symbol change?

nova communications went from .005 to 2.00 overnight, just like this. waiting on a contract changed their name and ticker symbol and opened at 2.00.
Sounds like a 400:1 R/S to me
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4bidon:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
You actually think that CVSU will open at $7.21??? I am a pretty optimistic guy, and I wish that what you are saying could be true, but c'mon man. Have you ever heard of that happening? A stock going up 3500% after a symbol change?

nova communications went from .005 to 2.00 overnight, just like this. waiting on a contract changed their name and ticker symbol and opened at 2.00.
Well man, I sure hope you are right. In fact if you are right I may drive down to Medford and give you a big sloppy kiss.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
nova communications. is now ecmh.ob, check them out on pinksheets. worth only 11c now but changed everything 2 years ago all at once and opened at 2.00......... I almost bought them but did'nt.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hbomb:
quote:
Originally posted by 4bidon:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
You actually think that CVSU will open at $7.21??? I am a pretty optimistic guy, and I wish that what you are saying could be true, but c'mon man. Have you ever heard of that happening? A stock going up 3500% after a symbol change?

nova communications went from .005 to 2.00 overnight, just like this. waiting on a contract changed their name and ticker symbol and opened at 2.00.
Sounds like a 400:1 R/S to me
no r/s split.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
basically, hold tight, this company is going the same way.
I am not pumping this, 800 mil company at 20c per share will sale itself.
just saying not to worry, big, no, BIG rewards ahead if you hold your resolve for just a short while... [Cool]
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
It changed Jan 31st 2006

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename %3D0001200952%252D06%252D000063%252Etxt%26filepath%3D%255C2006%255C01%255C31%255 C&symbol=ECMH
 
Posted by rickachiu on :
 
According to the 8-K report: Each share of FHAL is worth $0.001 per share.
XKEM was supposed to be worth over a dollar. Look at it now.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
it changed a couple times, I am talking about the change in sept of 2004. at yahoo you can only get the 1 year chart, but that is when it was on it's way down ecmh.ob
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rickachiu:
According to the 8-K report: Each share of FHAL is worth $0.001 per share.
XKEM was supposed to be worth over a dollar. Look at it now.

We already covered this Rick. Please reread the rest of the board. The shares are not worth .001.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
There was no name change until Jan 31st of this year - there was a R/S 1 for 100 on 2004-10-08.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
if no pr tomorrow i think we see red again... big friday sell off... i waiting till tomorrow to dump some more into this one
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Everyone was bullish this morning. Stay positive people.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
All I care about is what the CEO said today. No splits, he said they would be putting "all" their resources into the Amazon deal. The ticker symbol will change in about 15 days. The rest has already been mentioned. Obviously, their is more news to come out, but please no speculation. This is a good stock and time will show that to be true. Two big company's coming together, what more could you ask for. GLTA in FHAL. Enjoy your evening and relax!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Oh by the way, even though Rufus sounds like a DUFUS, I think he's a good business man. The man that own's the multi million dollar company I work for, never makes public speaches because he is to SHY. We are one of the leading small turbine engine building companys in the world.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Oh by the way, even though Rufus sounds like a DUFUS, I think he's a good business man. The man that own's the multi million dollar company I work for, never makes public speaches because he is to SHY. We are one of the leading small turbine engine building companys in the world.

Williams?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
hey 10!!!

Big fish!!

You all still playen????

Whats your read???
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
looks like we may see a crash tomorrow then.. but i'm just gonna hold and see this thing through, i hope it won't be another PGPM.. doesn't seem like it..

Why do you say we will see a crash tomorrow?
cuz it's friday.. will most likely crash if no PR.. and i doubt there will be PR tomorrow, even though they should already have released the contract signed today.. but o well.. biting the bullet.. even though everything looks so positive, it's the traders and MM's that control the price ultimately, and there are more short term traders than investors..
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Lost all momentum....I shoulda waited to get in....I knew better...It will more than likely drop to 13 or less tomorrow morning...fill the gap.....I'll cost average to save my skin when it gets there... This is not the game to play when you have too much chit goin on in your world,I guess...It might recover quick....but I definately see it closen that gap...
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Excellent material from Digiwench at I H u b
Anything is possible I guess


"READ THIS and Feel Better!

Examples of stocks which, after a reverse merger of the type FHAL is now part of, went from pennies to dollars:
____________________________________________________
J.L. Halsey Corporation (OTCBB: JLHY, previously NAHC) was added to the Profile List on 10/02/2000 at $0.006. On 05/12/05 they announced a reverse merger with Lyris Technologies, Inc. and closed at $0.32 on volume of 419,700, a gain of 5,233% in 4 yrs 7 months. UPDATE: traded as high as $0.79 on volume of 688,300 on 08/23/05, a gain of 13,000%!

Sports Entertainment Enterprises, Inc. (OTCBB: SPEA) was added to the Profile List on 07/24/2002 at 0.05 x 0.15. On 12/15/04 it traded at 0.10 per share. On 12/16/04 they announced a reverse merger with an entity (Robert F.X. Sillerman, CKX, Inc.) that will acquire a majority interest in the assets comprising the estate of Elvis Presley and closed at $6.41 on volume of 1,339,073, a gain of 6,300% in one day. UPDATE: traded as high as $30.65 on volume of 57,100 on 05/09/05. DETAILED INFO HERE

St. George Metals, Inc. (OTCBB: SGGM) was added to the Profile List on 04/22/03 at .003 x .009, traded as high as .75 with volume of 653,300 on 09/08/2004, a gain of 8,233% in 17 months. They announced a joint venture on 09/02/2004.

Cyco Net, Inc. (OTCBB: CYKE) was added to the Profile List on 11/06/03 at 0.02 x 0.04, traded as high as .48 with volume of 544,433 on 11/21/03, a gain of 1,100% in 15 days. They announced a reverse merger on 11/24/03. UPDATE: traded at $1.30 with volume of 618,007 on 01/22/04, a gain of 3,150% in 11 weeks.

Geoworks Corporation (OTCBB: GWRX) was added to the Profile List on 04/22/03 at 0.017 x 0.02, traded at a high of 0.47 with volume of 2,333,600 on 06/10/2003, a gain of 2,250% in 7 weeks.

Laser Recording Systems, Inc. (OTCBB: LSRY) went from 0.025 on 04/14/2003 to a high of 1.50 on 05/05/2003 after a reverse merger was announced on 04/24/2003, a gain of 5,900% in 3 weeks.

HomeCom Communications, Inc. (OTCBB: HCOM) was addedto the Profile List on 04/09/2002 at 0.005 x 0.007, traded at 0.001 on 03/19/2003, announced a merger on 03/28/03, and hit a high of 0.10 on 03/31/2003. The range between the low and high was 9,900% in 2 weeks.

TopClick International, Inc. (OTCBB: TOCK) went from 0.011 on 05/15/2001 to a high of 0.35 after a reverse merger was announced on 06/04/2001, a gain of 3,081% in 3 weeks.

Great Wall Food & Beverage Corp. (OTCBB: GWFB) was added to our Profile List on 5/28/01 at 0.51 x 0.75. On 12/07/2001, it forward split 10 for 1, changed it's symbol to DUVT, and was bid at $1.70, a gain of 2,166% in less than six months."
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
excellant read there MN , thanks for bringing it over here [Eek!]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
funny thread...

serious question: saw one post mentioning that Tim from PQL had a question aired during the broadcast--anybody catch the question AND the answer(s), if any... ?
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Tex, I heard the question and answer, it was a mess of an interview on both sides, anyway FHAL did not go into depth on the securities or bonds but the COO did mention that they are 90% liquid. Hope this helps a little
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
he asked about the bond issue. Rufus said something to the affect that they are liquid and have had offers for 90% of the value of the bond. Something along those lines
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
he asked about the bond issue. Rufus said something to the affect that they are liquid and have had offers for 90% of the value of the bond. Something along those lines
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i think it was about a bond issue;)
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
he asked about the bond issue. Rufus said something to the affect that they are liquid and have had offers for 90% of the value of the bond. Something along those lines

well, ya...lol...

Ok, thanks, Ryan--will find out more tonight, I suspect.

Sounds like the segment was a complete clusterpuk, eh?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Comments and attitudes have been based solely on the fact that Rufus, being from GA didn't sound polished. People didn't listen to what Rufus was saying when he wasn't interupted by the hosts, who were too busy joking around. Yes Rufus has a Drawl and speaks slowly and isn't a reincarnation of Tony Robbins.

He stated in no uncertain terms that FHAL shares will remain as they are. No split. no restriction.

He stated that they had 3 offers on the table for 90% value of the bonds.

He stated that they will go full steam ahead with the Amazon project.

He stated that the Eco-credits could be worth more than the Logs that are presently sitting in the Amazon and that they have other models that are currently working with eco-credits(Experience).

He actually said more than that but it was overshadowed by the sophmoric banter of the Radio show hosts.

If people didn't use emotions and stereotypes this stock would have closed considerably higher today.

Good Luck
Wally
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I think that the interviewers were horrible. They barely even introduced him and then they asked "What's going on?". Rufus said "well do you have any questions?". The interviewers said "lets go to the phones"
Great journalism...not.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
so catch me up to speed, Wally. It gapped--I got that...then what?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I agree with both of you guys.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
well, M N 1 *is* starred-out, here... [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
it went down.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
thanks, doni...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
No problem, I'm here to answer the tough questions...
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
so catch me up to speed, Wally. It gapped--I got that...then what?

Then it started to retrace. People expecting the gap taking profits. Then it seemed like most people were waiting around for the interview. Rufus was late and the hosts made it seem like he didn't want to get on the air. They kept joking around taking calls and telling the caller, If Rufus were here what would you ask. Then put another caller on and ask him to try and answer. There was one person there, I think it was Mike the Analyst, that wanted to try and and questions but everytime he tried to speak they cut him off. At this point I started to see selling. Then Rufus came on and it went downhill from there. They asked him What's going on. When he was taken aback, not completely understanding what they meant, they said: You know gives us some color. Rufus still not understanding said do you have any questions, at which time they went to the phones. Rufus did do some splaining but by that time very few were listening.

The selling continued until it bottomed at 18.5. I was licking my chops and put a buy in for .18 but it never filled. The stock pretty much channeled the rest of the day between .20 and .24.

Oh yah, I forgot to mention that the MM's did a nice big shake prior to the interview.

That about sums it up unless anyone else has something to add that I forgot.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by gonnabrich on :
 
Just got back from vacation. What happened to Mike Alexander in the merger? Is he still going to be with the company?
He was the guy that got the LOI signed in the 1st place, and hopefully will remain in a capacity in which the new company will reap the rewards of his contacts.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Good recap Wally. When I read it I realized that it was not as bad as some people seem to think. Rufus was flustered, and the interviewers were being childish.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
there ya go, Wally...the summary I was looking for...

well, at this point, all I can say is we hit on sumpin yesterday and last night, figuring that these factors were in play, which few wanted to address:

* the potential effect of the "interview"

* for lack of a better term, the "PQL" questions

* the gap, which even fewer wanted to address, lol

Again, nice summary there, Wally
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
i like the part about , NO split, NO restrictions , and something about 800 million ,and a bunch a logs in the amazon
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
So what's your take on it all Tex? Will tomorrow be rough or happytime?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gonnabrich:
Just got back from vacation. What happened to Mike Alexander in the merger? Is he still going to be with the company?
He was the guy that got the LOI signed in the 1st place, and hopefully will remain in a capacity in which the new company will reap the rewards of his contacts.

Mike will stay on with the new company. I believe his role will deal with the Amazon logging project.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
there ya go, Wally...the summary I was looking for...

well, at this point, all I can say is we hit on sumpin yesterday and last night, figuring that these factors were in play, which few wanted to address:

* the potential effect of the "interview"

* for lack of a better term, the "PQL" questions

* the gap, which even fewer wanted to address, lol

Again, nice summary there, Wally

I guess all those factors have been addressed now. It did gap and the gap was definately filled.

"PQL" questions. 3 offers on the table for 90% financing.

The effect of the interview---Is obvious.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
So what's your take on it all Tex? Will tomorrow be rough or happytime?

basically? I dunno...

started responding, turned into long reply--which basically said "I dunno"
 
Posted by gonnabrich on :
 
Thanks wallymac. I appreciate the update. Mike would seem to me to be a necessity to the operation going forward.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
there ya go, Wally...the summary I was looking for...

well, at this point, all I can say is we hit on sumpin yesterday and last night, figuring that these factors were in play, which few wanted to address:

* the potential effect of the "interview"

* for lack of a better term, the "PQL" questions

* the gap, which even fewer wanted to address, lol

Again, nice summary there, Wally

I guess all those factors have been addressed now. It did gap and the gap was definately filled.

"PQL" questions. 3 offers on the table for 90% financing.

The effect of the interview---Is obvious.

GLTA
Wally

disagree re gap to be filled ... My take is 12-15 range, SPR says 1350

"3 offers" lol, call me hard-headed--I ain't convinced, yet
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
No problem, I'm here to answer the tough questions...

-------------------------------------------------
O' Tah, how many logs, skip the sticks, are in the Amazooon.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Blue are you still in?
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Yep...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thoughts?
 
Posted by Sasquatch on :
 
Logging in the Amazon huh?

Lost all interest in this stock right there...sorry.

Can't/won't support that.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
logging or not with 800 million to play with I'll just hold.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Recovering logs from amazon, not traditional cut and haul logging
 
Posted by Sasquatch on :
 
What's that neighbor-vestor?
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sasquatch:
Logging in the Amazon huh?

Lost all interest in this stock right there...sorry.

Can't/won't support that.

This will help, maybe your support is needed if you feel that strongly,
"exclusive Brazilian license to recover sunken logs from the Amazon River and its tributaries. The Fronthaul Group's specific area of responsibility could yield a potential of $1,500,000,000 in gross revenue. Conservative estimates project 2.6 billion board feet of easily recoverable first grade hardwood lumber under our initial phase of this contract," says Gordon Brown, Director of CEOTA, a non-profit organization dedicated to the preservation of the rainforest"
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
10 of 13...Working on it...Got back just a bit ago..

Not sure about trader confidence as previously mentioned somewhere..Usually a pull back is to be expected, after a run..My early positions were small, just in case...Larger positions at .245 and .22

Sorta expected the decline, but the CEO on this one just might be acceptable for once...

The feed back I am reading from the conferance call seems legit'...Big factor so far.
 
Posted by Sasquatch on :
 
Ah, I see now.

Front and center page 1.

Dad always told me I shouldn't skip to the end.

Sounds like what they do around Lake Superior. Good wood there. Instrument makers pay top dollar for that stuff.

Thanks mn,

I'll look a little farther.

Looks from the chart that you had a big day yesterday. You folks still think this has juice?

Sas
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
yes the CEO wasn't some smooth talkin - gum bumper ,triin to sell shares
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Sas, you need to read 8k, it is all there...this one is a winner, pull back today was expected after 80% plus yesterday..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thank you King Fish! Looks like a pul back under 15...hmmmm...
 
Posted by Sasquatch on :
 
Don't give him a big head now 10 of everything.

Maybe King of the Sea...

you know...

like the tuna. [Big Grin]

Sas
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
folks might not get the joke,, edited LOL
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Thank you King Fish! Looks like a pul back under 15...hmmmm...

ya... technically speaking, this does have a gap to fill, as posted. It *is* a larger gap than those previously filled; on the other hand? those gaps *were* filled... point? recent history points to filling those gaps...

FA? still no solid answers, sorry. The bonds/financials angle still bothers me--and apparently the market, too. Because the bonds apparently have not traded since weeks ago, I discount the radio-interview answer that they have been offered 90%. Financials I'm hearing say only $9k on hand, in cash.... doesn't jibe for me...given the "valuations"
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Tex I see your point regarding financials, it was a concern of mine until I read they have been audited...IMO it brings credibility
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
By request from participants here,

All SEC filings

http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=furia&CIK=&filenum=&State=&SIC=& owner=include&action=getcompany

Recent 10Q

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/757563/000129707706000033/fhaul10q33106.h tm

(Unaudited)

Current assets: 209,919
Software asset claimed actually has no value

Current Liability: 2,488,971

Gross Profit
2005: 409,953
2006: 44,331

Loss
2005: (297,526)
2006: (6,274,191)

The parent has cash available in the amount of approximately $57,142 as of March 31, 2006, and a working capital deficit of $2,343,730. The Convertible Notes in the amount of $1,750,000 have been reclassified because the Company may have failed to make proper notification of its intent to repurchase its own shares and does not currently have sufficient funds to repay the notes plus a 30% penalty if called by the noteholders.

Due to this breach of the loan agreement, the loans are reclassified as current and a default penalty of $528,288 was accrued.

The former accountant reasons for resigning were the 10-QSB for the quarter ending March 31, 2006 was filed prior to their completion of their review and that the Company's purchase of its common stock violated certain loan covenants and were not properly disclosed to the public.

Merger

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/757563/000129707706000045/fhaul8kmerger.h tm

____

Overall Financial Status: Very Bad, Bankruptcy Status

A lot of _paid_ pump and dump companies are
working this stock. This is very bad.

Chart,

 -

Share prices are headed for .10 per or lower.
Chances are good FHAL is about to crash, hard.

Summary, company is in a psuedo bankruptcy
condition. This is a pump and dump stock.
Share price is about to crash very hard.

Fundamentals do not support current share price.
There is no news or related deals which would
attract seasoned traders nor flippers. Share
price should be in the .01 to .05 per range,
at best.

I would not touch this stock. At the beginning
of the pump and dump, yes, a quick in and out,
but this is over. Only chance for profit is some
substantial news of a financial nature, very good
news. I would not expect this one to bounce.

Please provide a link to this Amazon / Log news.
This is important and may or may not change
my overall opinion.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Could they have stopped on the "bond" Trading because of what was in the works with the 2 companies?
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Incidently, the topic title of this thread
is a dead giveaway this is a pump & dump.

When you read a topic title like this one,
skip over the thread, do not even bother
looking at what is inside.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks Purl...!!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
What's up with all this gap crap??? You guys think this thing is going to dump another 5 cents tomorrow???? I find it hard to believe that this will go down to or even below where it was before the merger announcement. What about the value of the other company? What about all the optimism that caused this to run up in the first place. Nothing has changed since then except for a single red day, yet people are predicting that the stock will be valued LESS two days after that wonderful 8-K. Jeez, if that is the case than what is left to invest in?
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Purl, good info on FHAL, without the most recent developments I agree, but with the cvsu merger (their financials are audited) this is much more attractive.

PR about Amazon log recovery for your reference:

The Fronthaul Group Signs Its First Letter of Intent to Provide 3rd Party Logistics for a Major Contract
Wednesday June 14, 6:30 am ET


ROCKWALL, TX--(MARKET WIRE)--Jun 14, 2006 -- The Fronthaul Group. (OTC BB:FHAL.OB - News) announces it has signed an LOI to provide third party logistics for the Climate Exchange of the Americas, Inc.
ADVERTISEMENT


The Climate Exchange of the Americas, Inc. (CEOTA) has entered into a Letter of Intent with The Fronthaul Group, Inc. for management and third party logistics over their exclusive Brazilian license to recover sunken logs from the Amazon River and its tributaries. "The Fronthaul Group's specific area of responsibility could yield a potential of $1,500,000,000 in gross revenue. Conservative estimates project 2.6 billion board feet of easily recoverable first grade hardwood lumber under our initial phase of this contract," says Gordon Brown, Director of CEOTA, a non-profit organization dedicated to the preservation of the rainforest.

The Fronthaul Group will arrange the complete third party logistics life cycle including but not limited to; arranging log retrieval and milling operations and developing export markets for the environmentally safe wood products.

"We are excited by the long term opportunity and challenges laid before us with this contract. We have the opportunity to make a positive impact for our environment by making rainforest timber available without harming a single living tree and all the while increasing our bottom line and shareholder value," says Mike Alexander, President and CEO of The Fronthaul Group, Inc.

About The Fronthaul Group:

The Fronthaul Group is a Delaware corporation with branch offices in Rockwall, TX. The Fronthaul Group expects to grow their business specifically in the areas of 3rd party logistics, Transportation Brokerage, and Motor Carrier services. The Fronthaul Group is the only referral-based marketing transportation logistics brokerage and currently has over 4000 members.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995:

The statements contained herein which are not historical are forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause the actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements, including, but not limited to, certain delays beyond the company's control with respect to market acceptance of new technologies or products, delays in testing and evaluation of products, and other risks detailed from time to time in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.


Contact:
Contact:
The Fronthaul Group
2233 Ridge Road Suite 102
Rockwall, TX 75087
888-293-4285
Email Contact

CEOTA
Fort Worth, Texas
817-886-2311
Email Contact
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Purl, what about the company they are merging with?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Purl, I agree that the title is crappy, but it wasn't created by the company, just a regular poster. I wouldn't read too much in to it.

Thanks for all your work though, it is appreciated.


quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
Incidently, the topic title of this thread
is a dead giveaway this is a pump & dump.

When you read a topic title like this one,
skip over the thread, do not even bother
looking at what is inside.

Purl Gurl


 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Doniboy, I am going back to my original plan...
Working the Nasdaq cheapies....Ventured in here on a whim, batting average is way down now doing that..profit lost from early in the week on other plays, don't ya just chit nickels when that happens? LOL
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
I will be looking at this company, Cassity.

A comment to make is FHAL has no value. Is
this other company in good financial condition?
If so, I would ask, "Why is a healthy company
looking to merge with a company near bankruptcy?"

What is important is current conditions.

Might be some potential, I will look. Nonetheless,
traders need to focus on right now. Prices appear
to be on the verge of crashing. Does not matter
what will happen in the future because of this
merger. All that matters is right now.

If prices do crash and you believe there is
future potential, then wait until prices bottom
out, absolute bottom, then buy. Almost a certainty
there will be a very small bounce up, maybe one
or two cents. Should you buy at very bottom and
prices come up one or two cents, you are in a
position to sell and break even or very close,
if "things" go sour.

That is protecting your capital.

"Letter of Intent"

A letter of intent is a red flag warning. This
type of news is very typical for pump & dump.
I would discount this to near zero; a letter
of intent is worthless.

Additionally, you do not know if this will be
a profitable venture or a loss ventrue. Sounds
decent but this is not a done deal.

Another problem is FHAL has no capital, a very
poor credit rating and in overall bad condition.
If capital is required for this deal, FHAL does
not have the capital. This suggest lending or
authorizing more shares followed by dilution.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
"What's up with all this gap crap??? You guys think this thing is going to dump another 5 cents tomorrow????"

lol, Doni...re-read the thread...

gaps to be filled are not a "tomorrow" kinda dynamic...it's more like a "Sword of Damoclese." It "threatens" UNTIL it's proven not to be a factor. Three months out and still not filled, while stock continues up? Can safely ignore...
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
That is where the deal is beautiful, bring in cvsu, they have capital to make it happen, thanks for talking it through. According to interview today they are full steam ahead with project, financing through cvsu makes it possible
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
A cautionary note and an excuse for me if I am
dead wrong, which is highly unlikely.

Readers should always keep in mind conditions
can change instantly. This one is being pumped
like crazy and about to crash. There is always
a chance some really wild pump news will come
out which fools gullible readers. Those gullible
people might start buying driving prices up. Very
doubtful, very much so.

Point is, "something" could happen which lends
to extreme volatility. Again, very doubtful.
Still, readers should be watching this one
at least every thirty minutes. There is always
a chance of a flip window. For this one, I truly
do not think so.

Bottom line, events could happen which will make
my comments appear to be dead wrong. Nonetheless
conditions _right now_ indicate readers should
dump as quickly as possible.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
edit to next post...it took off by it's self.lol
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Blue, so you're going to 86 this stock based on Purl's DD ? I agree that she does great financial analysis, but she admittedly did not mention the parent company which is what we are truly invested in now. I am amazed at how a few hours after a red day suddenly the no lose situation is so desperate that we all need to bail out before it bottoms out. We still have a serious merger in the works here.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i wish they would show that cvsu has the cash for this.. or some kind of financing news.. need that money!
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Is "cvsu" the ticker symbol? I have just barely
begun reseaching. I honestly know nothing about
this stock other than what I presented.

Someone provide a link to this cvsu and financials.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Doniboy I agree, Purl may or may not be right, in this instance I do not feel she has done the appropriate DD on this, again IMO...this would be the pump of all pumps, submitting a false 8k with audited financials to the SEC, go on public radio and be interviewed, then run...I don't think so, too much jail time
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Doniboy if I do bail in the morning it is because I didn't do the do properly for myself..

I broke my number one rule, I did not check the paid sites first! I got outa cinck, happens...
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Doniboy, it is current _right now_ conditions
of concern. All the signals of a crash are there.

Maybe there is future potential. My opinion is
traders should jump out, right now, to protect
their capital. If "things" improve, share price
start going up again, good news comes out, then
traders can jump back in.

Right now, all indicators point to selling.

Protect your capital first, profit second.
This is risk assessment. Risks are very high.
Better to lose out on a chance to profit than
to lose all your money.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
http://www.cvsu.us/
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Purl..the "letter of intent" The websites of the 2 companies have already "become one" easy to do but adds verification to the "letter of intent"...also the "letter of intent" was not released in some "scammed" PR...but in a SEC 8K filing...which also can be made to look better than it actually is...
and if you would like to take a look at the "new" companies financials...they have a small portion on their website..
http://cvsu.us/
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Purl, wouldn't it make sense for a company looking for a quick jump to the OTC to reverse merge with a distressed company that is already there? I think that in order to get your full view of this play you need to actually look at CVSU, FHAL will cease to exist in 15 days or less any way. Or are you thinking that this is an NDOL situation, where promises are never met? (even though I made good cash on NDOL).
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Thanks Purl. I have 32k shares. I've read a lot on my own, and I like the company. Never hurts to hear someone elses opinion. Thanks for taking the time.
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Remember, if you decide to sell or to hold,
that is your decision, not mine. You, the
reader, are solely responsible for your
decisions, only you.

I could be dead wrong. I do not think so but
there is NO guarantee I am right. You must
make a decision based on facts, based on
experience, based on your opinion.

I urge readers to protect your captial first,
then work on earning profits.

This is not a stock you want to hold until
very firm facts and committments are issued
by the companies involved.

Is there anything stopping readers from
simply flipping this stock when you can?
That seems a good strategy; jump in, jump
out, as many times as you can.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
That is where the deal is beautiful, bring in cvsu, they have capital to make it happen, thanks for talking it through. According to interview today they are full steam ahead with project, financing through cvsu makes it possible

not seeing the capital...got links?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Blue, good luck buddy. Gotta play em as you see em.

By the way, I am enjoying this stock conversation that doesn't involve yelling at each other. Good honest debate makes this board worth while.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I am leaning towards Purl's opinion of the moment...Protect your Capital...I got in early enough to flip this yesterday and take out my capital...but did put all profits back in...if it continues in the down trend tomorrow...then I may sell...and re enter at a later date...

This news is almost too good to be true...and it was a geat ride yesterday...we will have to see if the ride is over for now...or if we will continue...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
"almost too good to be true"

lol, remember the chart reading?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I didn't ride yesterday [Frown] This is all capital I am using.

Oh the humanity....
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Has anyone found a link or something to the Amazon/log stuff?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Blue, good luck buddy. Gotta play em as you see em.

By the way, I am enjoying this stock conversation that doesn't involve yelling at each other. Good honest debate makes this board worth while.

Exactly, good to hear good and bad. Doniboy, I don't think everyone is going to bail. Maybe a dip in the morning, who knows? Me personally, I think tomorrow will be green. Today was a sell off of the day before. JMO
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Oh no, no, no, no. CVSU is a holding company.
This is bad news. A holding company does not
care diddly squat if a subsidiary makes it
or not. A subsidiary can be liquidated for
cash, which is usually profitable.

No, no, I have been burnt many times by holding
companies. This increases risk even more.

Readers should be asking, "Why is this holding
company interested in a company on the verge
of bankruptcy?"

Do not be fooled. This merger is an acquisition
by CVSU. You will not be enjoying the benefits
of CVSU but rather will be dealing with FHAL
itself, which will be owned by a parent company.

CVSU is a pink sheet company and appears to
be not traded. No filings, no financials, no
news, nothing, nada, zippo.

Major RED FLAG.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Audited Financials




CONVERSION SOLUTIONS, INC.

(A Development Stage Company)

Balance Sheet

As of March 31 2006





ASSETS:

Current Assets

Cash & Cash Equivalents $ 9,146

Interest Recivable $ 33,125,000

Total Current $ 33,134,146



Other Assets

Stables $ 277,000

UCC Security Notes $ 310,138,000



Total Other Assets $ 310,415,000

Long-Term Assets

Long-term Investment in Bonds $ 500,000,000

(see footnote)

TOTAL ASSETS $ 843,549,146

From website on left tab "Audited Financials".
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
"almost too good to be true"

lol, remember the chart reading?

Well if you or Maumee or someone would show me how to flippin' read these charts...then i would be alot better off...LOL...but I am not doin' half bad...I'll get the chart stuff down...eventually...but I am too busy blowin' up my puter...and makin' money! (and swimmin' with the kids...LOL)
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
thanks for the headsup Purl...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Purl...I had seen that...they "claimed" in the 8k filing that they would be trading under FHAL...it almost appears that this would then give CVSU the ability to trade...the 2 companies merging..and then trading under the FHAL symbol...this is not a good thing?
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
10 you are easily persuaded...you did your homework..what are you telling yourself?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
wiley,

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/profile.asp?User=63557

*not* saying he's "right" but he asks good questions...


10--hold on...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
10 you are easily persuaded...you did your homework..what are you telling yourself?

What are you nuts? LOL

but I am still doing home work...
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"The Fronthaul Group's specific area of
responsibility could yield a potential of
$1,500,000,000 in gross revenue. Conservative
estimates project 2.6 billion board feet of easily
recoverable first grade hardwood lumber under our
initial phase of this contract...."

This is all wrong. "Sunken Treasure"

You cannot pull up logs from the bottom of the
Amazon River and make good usable lumber. That
wood will be water logged and rotted, I do not
care how hard is the wood. Forces of Mother Nature
are at work decomposing that wood.

At best, pseudo petrified wood might be recovered,
wood which is hard as steel from tissue being
replaced by heavy minerals. This wood would eat
up saw blades in a second.

You do not use submerged trees for lumber!

Now look, I could absolutely dead wrong on all
this but something about this stinks like crazy
and it ain't that rotting wood in the Amazon.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Blue, good luck buddy. Gotta play em as you see em.

By the way, I am enjoying this stock conversation that doesn't involve yelling at each other. Good honest debate makes this board worth while.

-------------------------------------------------
The discourse on this stock and demeaner of the posters is very good...This is what all of us have been working for...To me this discussion is worth alot, to see it done, in such a manner, makes me feel like a winner and not a loser, there is more important things than money sometimes.

Honesty is Key! thats why this piece of work being done here is flowing so well.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tex...i can't use your link...gotta be a member...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
10 you are easily persuaded...you did your homework..what are you telling yourself?

lol, 10 of Easily Persuaded...

good luck with that...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Ok everyone relax. Purl is doing what some of us asked her to do, and she may be right, but by her own admission and from what we all know about pinks, this could (and in my opinion will) run again. There is a merger going through, with an official 8-K filing. This is going to happen in a few days (not years) the symbol will be changing, PR's will be released. Our minds are working overtime because its night time. News could bring this one back up to the former resistence of around .35.
This is all just my opinion, but I am not jumping ship yet. A lot of boards are discussing this tonight, there is a lot of interest.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Why is there a department on this site? Amazon water, Great lakes water, all H2O to me...
http://www.michigan.gov/deq/0,1607,7-135-3313_3677_3703-10890--,00.html
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Good article on wood recovery:

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fsb/fsb_archive/2005/12/01/8365365/index.htm
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Purl...they never said it was "sucken treasure" why is it so unreasonable to pull good wood that has fallen...? And in the interview from today...they had said something about "credits" of some sort...didn't quite understnad it..but it almost seems as if the wood that was "un usable" they would get some sort of tax credit type thing...didn't guite follow...does anyone recall that in the interview?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Purl, you are wrong about the logs you naked Indian you...lol.

Seriously though, check out this link from a reputable magazine:
http://www.popularwoodworking.com/features/fea.asp?id=1300
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Doniboy, you crack me up my friend! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
10, "chart junk"

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=FHAL&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p15178109836

notice ADX in, of and by itself, signals "buy" about the "right time" to catch a bottom bounce slightly after June 12...

yet, Aroon does not "agree"--and sure enough, plenty of room for heartache until skyward in early July. See DI + in ADX bouncing off trend line?

Hot, right? ya... but hyper-extended--and still no "agreement" from Aroon...

re gap: notice between 2 and 3 candles ago...

see white candle with trailing whisker touching .10? Notice it's flat top, no whisker. Next day, small whisker below, eh?

There's your gap...
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"...but I am not jumping ship yet."

No, but you could take a seat in a lifeboat
floating next to this ship.

Yes, there might be some runs. Doubtful.

A point I am trying hard to make is readers
should be looking at protecting their capital.
There are so many warning signals present.

My personal strategy, if stuck with these
conditions, would be to sell first thing
in the morning, sit back and watch. Should
a chance or two develop for flipping, then
jump in and immediately jump out. I would
not hold this stock more than one day.

That is what I would do but this does not
mean I would profit nor mean I am right.

I truly believe risks are far too high to
have your money sitting in this one.

Again, it is a lot better to miss a chance
to profit than to lose your money. You can
always make profits later. You cannot replace
your money if lost.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"Joseph Nagyvary, a professor of biochemistry at
Texas A & M in College Station, builds violins,
violas and cellos using reclaimed timber. He says
that legendary instrument maker Stradivarius often
soaked the wood he used for making violins —
sometimes for as long as 20 years."

Ha! Now that interests me!

Doniboy, read carefully. Lot of clues in that
article. "woodworkers" not lumber mills.

Words like "gum" "easy to work" all indicate
decomposed soft wood. This cannot be used for
home construction or other types of construction.

What revenue will be generated from specialty
woodworkers making cellos and chairs?

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Is there a sample of the wood from submerged tree's anywhere, we have Fir tree's still standing straight up under the surface in many higher altitude lakes here in oregon, many are hundreds of yrs old ..Cold water factor?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks Tex...
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
So far, so good! None have accused me of being
a paid basher, have not tried to have me banished
nor, I think, have reported me to the SEC.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Submerged wood folks, here in Oregon..
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Just from reading a little on the wood the water actually preserves it - it is used alot in veneers
for furniture and such.
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"Cold water factor?"

Absolutely! Both chemical processes and organic
processes are directly dependent on temperature.

The higher the temperature, the faster the process.

Think, a woman cold as ice and a hot firecracker
of a woman.

;)

The Amazon, home of Amazon women, is very hot.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Most homes are made from softer woods.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
So far, so good! None have accused me of being
a paid basher, have not tried to have me banished
nor, I think, have reported me to the SEC.

Purl Gurl

Are you a volunteer basher? LoL
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Purl, howz about 'a peat effect, I've noticed tea colered water in tributaries of the Amazon.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Purl, I have reported you to the sec you paid basher. PS you're banished. [Smile]


Check out this story:
The company's present output, mainly strong, desirable Douglas fir, is sold to mills making lumber for flooring, furniture, and construction.
http://www.ehponline.org/members/2004/112-15/innovations.html
 
Posted by Sasquatch on :
 
Ugh, you guys back it hard to backread from the merger announcement when you post so dang much! [Smile]

Almost there but saw this and needed to comment

Purl Said:
quote:

You cannot pull up logs from the bottom of the
Amazon River and make good usable lumber. That
wood will be water logged and rotted, I do not
care how hard is the wood. Forces of Mother Nature
are at work decomposing that wood.

Actually...this is only partially true. There are companies that only pull logs out of the great lakes and make good money doing it. This wood has qualities by it's prolonged submersion that make it valuable to certain specialty creators such as instrument makers rather than just construction lumber.

One BIG difference that could be a big deal. Great lakes are cold. That helps to preserve the wood. The warmth of the water down in the Amazon could speed up the process of decay.

It is a very interesting idea though.

Have more to say but will finish reading and pick my wife up from work first.

Sas
 
Posted by bigbolanos on :
 
Not bragging but I am an architect in the NY area, all that I know for sure is that wood is preserve under water if is completely submerged and it has no exposure to air or climate. Since expansion and contraction happens when the climate changes from hot to cold the water starts to evaporate and the wood starts to shrink then when it goes under water it starts to expanded and sucks more water. Repeat this process and then you see wood that looks like they are ratted but its braking apart and then you see mold .
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"Most homes are made from softer woods."

Cassity, almost all home construction wood,
today, is Hemlock fir. What is happening in
New Orleans? Much of the studs, joists and
rafters are in need of replacement after
being submerged for a relatively short time
compared to being submerged in the Amazon
for fifty years subjected to Mother Nature's
most aggressive decomposition processes.

I am sure there is a percentage of wood to
be recovered. However, these financial claims
seem "too good to be true."

Have any of you looked at this group out to
"save the rainforest" to discover if they are
legit or maybe driven by an agenda which may
not include profit making?

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Just curious, 'peat effect' hey if it's off the table as a stock? Lets IOP something and we will do it! Now that would be some discourse..
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
The World bank credit is more important than the actual amount being paid to compant for recovery, this according to COO/CEO
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
I have to confess, with embarrassment, our home
is made completely of redwood, the premium wood
for home construction. However, our home is
older than my big fat butt.

Which reminds me, I need to leave. I have to
work on some nude photographs of me for the
boys around here.

Besides, if I write more, soon a discussion
board war will break out with bad results.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
lol...
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Just wait a minute, how about the Peat effect in some tribs. of the Amazon? "Looks like tea kinda rivers..
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':
Just wait a minute, how about the Peat effect in some tribs. of the Amazon? "Looks like tea kinda rivers..

Are u sure that is "Peat" and not "Pee"?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
what's the whole tea thing about? Am I missing something.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Ya gotta love this shizat!
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Doniboy writes,

"...desirable Douglas fir...."

Yes! Another very popular wood for construction.

Hemlock fir and Douglas fir. Long back, white pine
was popular but those forests were cut down. Before
this, about fifty years and back, redwood.

I do NOT support cutting down redwood trees.

An interesting trival point is a lot of wood
was salvalged after Mount Saint Helens flattened
millions of acres of forest.

But this is the Amazon we are talking, a river
full of icky sticky gooey gushy black slime,
piranha with sharp teeth and other nasties,
like the Creature from the Black Lagoon.

Did I mention leeches which love to slide up
your.... oh... cannot write that thought here.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
There ya go, we might be missing something...
Ever heard of Peat bogs?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
assuming CEOTA is legit.. they said they've tested a good amount of the recovered logs.. and i don't really doubt it.. would be nice to figure out more of the direct effects on the stock price, money money money..
 
Posted by Sasquatch on :
 
Ok. Up to spead now.

I know a lot of folks are counting on a PR.

Won't happen.

FHAL is to cease all activities until the closing. They can't move ahead on the Log dealy until they close with the other company.

There are still details to be ironed out with the merger so you likely won't get that PR tomorrow either.

My interest is roused but the timing is not right. I'm going to let it settle and see what details come out of the wood work.

There are A LOT of folks that were all confused with numbers! Thinking par value of stock is what the stock is worth, Thinking Book value means the stock HAS to go to that price after the symbol change, thinking a lot of odd things.

Says there are a lot of newb's here that still need to learn.

That's not a bad thing but it does tend to mean the hype should be taken with a grain of salt.

Ok. Gotta pick up the wife now.

Later,
Sas

(All this to say...Purl's got the right of it.)
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks again for the opinion...PURL...
Many questions that I am going to go and find answers to...
mnvestor...I am not easily persuaded!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sasquatch:
Ugh, you guys back it hard to backread from the merger announcement when you post so dang much! [Smile]

Almost there but saw this and needed to comment

Purl Said:
quote:

You cannot pull up logs from the bottom of the
Amazon River and make good usable lumber. That
wood will be water logged and rotted, I do not
care how hard is the wood. Forces of Mother Nature
are at work decomposing that wood.

Actually...this is only partially true. There are companies that only pull logs out of the great lakes and make good money doing it. This wood has qualities by it's prolonged submersion that make it valuable to certain specialty creators such as instrument makers rather than just construction lumber.

One BIG difference that could be a big deal. Great lakes are cold. That helps to preserve the wood. The warmth of the water down in the Amazon could speed up the process of decay.

It is a very interesting idea though.

Have more to say but will finish reading and pick my wife up from work first.

Sas

true...great lakes model only thing ever had me interested...salvage there can be quite good. Never thought of "warmer water" lol

was thinking only "under water"

[Embarrassed]
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Reminds me of a story. Neither my husband or I
are smokers but sometimes smoke during sex,
maybe even some sparks and flames which is why
I bought a flame retardant gorilla outfit.

He tells me a story, I think a very tall tale,
of packing his butt cheeks with cigarettes to
keep out the leeches when he was in the Mekong
Delta region of Vietnam during the war.

He claims leeches do not like the taste or
whatever, of tobacco. I think the natural
acid in tobacco burns the leeches. Well,
leeches should not smoke, anyhow.

Ain't ya glad you invited me?

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
mnvestor, say your sorry 10 is a sweet-little-young-lady. [Wink]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
This off IHUB. Maybe we were just another victim.

WORLD EVENTS are causing a lot of blood on the streets http://finance.yahoo.com/q/cq?d=v1&s=abgx+acad+acam+adh+actc.ob+adls+anx+aols.ob +acel+allp.ob+al...
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
assuming CEOTA is legit.. they said they've tested a good amount of the recovered logs.. and i don't really doubt it.. would be nice to figure out more of the direct effects on the stock price, money money money..

------------------------------------------------
Conformtion here will settle the issue..
Tea colored rivers may have a higher quality of recoverable older logs..Tea color is important because of the natural effect of peat "like" water.

Peat bogs have an amazing ability to preserve humans over thousands of yrs. just a thought.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Purl your always welcome. We love you PURL GURL.
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"Peat bogs have an amazing ability to preserve humans"

No oxygen to feed decomposition.

Amazon is loaded with oxygen.

Purl Gurl - packing her butt with tobacco
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
It is my understanding that the "temp" has nothing to do with the "preserving" of the wood...and these "hardwoods" that are pulled...such as Teak wood, redwood, mahogany rosewood and the like...when "pulled to the bottom of the rivers are covered in the "silt" that act actually like a "preservative"...No oxygen...to start the decomposing and rotting...
they get pulled up and the wood is over 200 years old and beautiful!
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"We love you PURL GURL"

Pffttt.... you just want my money and the
boys just want to get into my pants, and
I rarely wear pants, like now.

Cassity, you are a girl, yes?

Toodles.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Purl, thanks for the leeches story. Now, whenever I see pictures of your naked butt I will not be able to help but picture cigarettes shoved up there.....just wonderful.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Again, the world bank credit for recovery is more valuable than the wood..does not matter what the wood is used for, sold for, burned for etc...world bank is very powerful and provides credit for lots of projects around the globe..
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Hmm... I might have a few nude pictures of
me with cigars. I will look.

Mine are not Monica flavored though.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Cassity, you are a girl, yes?

Nope! [Eek!] Are going to be mean to me now?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
graphic...
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"...the world bank credit for recovery is more valuable...."

Credit suggests debt which suggest payments, yes?

I am out.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
It is my understanding that the "temp" has nothing to do with the "preserving" of the wood...and these "hardwoods" that are pulled...such as Teak wood, redwood, mahogany rosewood and the like...when "pulled to the bottom of the rivers are covered in the "silt" that act actually like a "preservative"...No oxygen...to start the decomposing and rotting...
they get pulled up and the wood is over 200 years old and beautiful!

good point for further research
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"Cassity, you are a girl, yes?"

"Nope! [Eek!] Are going to be mean to me now?"

No, this just means I will keep a closer
eye on your hands, like I do with Tex.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Man everyone sounds like paranoid-skitsofrentics.(obviously misspelled)
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
"...the world bank credit for recovery is more valuable...."

Credit suggests debt which suggest payments, yes?

I am out.

Purl Gurl

What better way to leverage a shizit ton of money to fund additional projects...getting very interesting
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
anyone read this?

http://www.mn 1.com/pdf/FHAL.pdf
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
can't...

you'll have to resovle the stars ***
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Like I posted earlier, we have tree's in rivers and lakes around here that are hundreds of feet deep, and in some cases thousands of years old...Some are still standing straight up in lakes that are very deep..Seen um up close... In a clear lake dive without scuba gear, you will be fooled by how deep even the shallow ones really are, spectacular when the Lake is crystal clear.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
just copy and paste it in the address bar, then remove the space.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
and what will we learn? quick synopsis...??
 
Posted by Sasquatch on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
and what will we learn? quick synopsis...??

how to copy and paste and remove the space silly.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
mnvestor, say your sorry 10 is a sweet-little-young-lady. [Wink]

Ahhh...someone stuck up for me...

actually...I think that Mnvestor...was trying to get me diggin' for more..."he was challenging me"...but thanks for the thought..I think..LOL
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
its a 10 page stock report on fhal.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Doniboy, that is the best information I've seen about FHAL as company so far. Thank You
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Doni...i can't get it to work..
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Copy the link he posted, erase the space by the 1. Push enter. Wait for download. Enjoy your reading. Truly Amazing!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
10of13 are you actually a 10????

copy and paste it into your address bar and then delete the space between the mn and the 1.

[Smile]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Or just try this.


http://www.***.com/pdf/FHAL.pdf
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
SH!t it did it again!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Or just try this.


http://www.***.com/pdf/FHAL.pdf

lol..

DOH!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Doni..yes..I am a 10..
and I think that it is my puter...not your link...I blew the sucker up earlier today..and I am still putting it back together...I guess that I am going to have to take your word for it...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
if you can read this, then you can read that. You do have Adobe Acrobat installed right?

If not, go here and install it:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LOL..Doni...yes I know...I am adding the programs one by one...thanks!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Always willing to help a 10.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
[Wink]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
anyone read this?

http://www.mn 1.com/pdf/FHAL.pdf

Got it! read it! Very interesting! A MUST READ!
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Wher is all the love? What brought us to this moment anyway, waht has changed our perception, Merger News GOOD! Amazon RETRTIEVAL BETTER $888,000 in liquid assests even better. Going to take money to pul money CVSU has access to the cash VERY GOOD1 On day one yesterday I sold 1/3 of my pos to protect my cap...still thinks this id going up,way north
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Hey..in the last day someone has wacked me two stars, hope I didn' offend anyone along the way:)
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
In regards to the sunken log quality from Amazon river . . .

Milliam posted this from a past conference call he listened to with Mike Alexander on m n 1 . com.

quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Mike...4600 logs were retrieved before and sold as grade A lumber. $1.5bill is based on the average quality from the 4600 logs from before....

Granted, you can say that we should take this information with a grain of salt. But I say, unless there are some wood experts amongst us, let's refrain from the speculation of "rot" and "mold". And let's not forget that FHAL is not the first company to contract the recovery of these logs (i.e. Enviro-Recovery). . . they happened to have some problems along the way that did not allow them to proceed with the venture. But perhaps we just have companies out there that like to recover rotten wood as a past time to lose money.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
"Joseph Nagyvary, a professor of biochemistry at
Texas A & M in College Station, builds violins,
violas and cellos using reclaimed timber. He says
that legendary instrument maker Stradivarius often
soaked the wood he used for making violins —
sometimes for as long as 20 years."

Ha! Now that interests me!

Doniboy, read carefully. Lot of clues in that
article. "woodworkers" not lumber mills.

Words like "gum" "easy to work" all indicate
decomposed soft wood. This cannot be used for
home construction or other types of construction.

What revenue will be generated from specialty
woodworkers making cellos and chairs?

Purl Gurl

the applications are not as limited as you make it sound . . .


from www.timelesstimber.com

Timeless Timber is gaining wide acceptance in its target markets. It has been selected by a growing number of architects for use in numerous high profile projects. Some notable projects which have been completed include: Corporate boardroom at Ford Motor in Detroit, the lobby, doors and board room of the Wisconsin Housing and Economic Development Administration building in Madison, Wisconsin, the President's Club in the NHL Calgary Flames' 'Saddledome' in Canada; the executive offices of Boeing Corp. in Seattle; the lobby at #1 Park Place in downtown Seattle, a focal point in Seattle; and the offices of HIROC, a health reciprocator in Toronto, Canada. Other significant projects that are in progress are at the US Federal Court House in New York; the Getty building in Los Angeles; and casework in a library at the Smithsonian Institute.

Not to mention, they have information pertaining to applications of this wood for countertops, flooring, veneer, beadboard & paneling, among other specialty items.
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
so whats the verdickt , hold or sell off
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Mornin Blackbeard!!!!

Looks like we are the only early birds here..

I have not had enough coffee to answer you Q, I'll return shortly..

I will say that, I believe the gap will fill early, and it makes me a bit uneasy when Purl get a hardon for a stock...She does some good DD on the fundementels...
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
yeah i think they stayed up allnight
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
oh mornin by the way
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
i've never followed purl but it make me uneasy to take advice from sombody who "sticks ciggarettes up there butt" LOL
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
me thinks folks better google hydroelectric dams in South america.....there is a lot of logs just waiting to be picked up at the bottom of these res-ee-voirs..

Protest free? yepers, in many cases.

You folks ever heard of a little sumpin called mahagony?

Me 'been around , been in, worked as crew, and skippered, some mighty fine Tournament style Sportsfishing Vessels....Lots of mahogany and other fine woods inside and out..Some Asian Companies still use the wood for hull construction.....Ever think about Teak? Asia has rivers, don't ya think they just might have submerged teak just lying around to be discovered?

What about Cypress and Juniper? American locations, submerged in water..

Just in case this stock falls off the perverbial cliff, doesn't mean this kind of play is dead.

Think people! we may be sitting on a Gold Mine underwater if we can find the right company..Think foriegn companies involved with this kind of venture, that are solid and producing, also think long shot posibilities..

As far as I am concerned, common sense indicates money for traders is to be made in this arena of companies involved in wood salvage...

Maybe my line, should be more carefully thought thru here " STANDING TO CLOSE TO THE FOREST"
can make it hard to see the rest of the forest!

Have a good day kids.

We have expert analysis, exellant chart readers on this stock, so me is not going babble about such things..Big Picture folks! just look at the pictures in the book...You find the the book, but read it too!

Edits? me spleling..

[ July 14, 2006, 08:13: Message edited by: Blue Marlin' ]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
You do have a unique way of puting things there Big Fish!! LOL

Good points!!

Just tough to know if this outfit has the best tackel in it's box...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I Guess I'll have to read back in the thread a little as I missed the ciggarette in the butt thing....


maybe I'll just leave it at that...I'm not sure i wanna know..LOL
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I wish I missed the cigarette in the Butt thing...Now its burned in my memory...

BTW Good Morning Allstocks. I think FHAL may have a good run. Unless Purl scared everyone off.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I'm thinkin it's gunna fill that gap pretty quick....
If it stays down, it will ecounter some intense resistance around 20 cents at 3:00p/m.... if it pops back up sooner tan that,I think that we may get a chance to save our butts(for Purl??).
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I would much prefer this to take off like a rabid bat and never look bac at the gap...but these things are rare...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I would too, I just can't believe that this thing wants to return to where it was before all the merger news started (as if it never happened). I guess I am long here and we'll see what the Merger and symbol change brings.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Mornin' guys...
Maumee you are sayin' that we may have to wait until 3 to see if this moves or not?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
anyone read this?

http://www.mn 1.com/pdf/FHAL.pdf

Got it! read it! Very interesting! A MUST READ!

 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Morning 10. With all the controversy swirling around here today, I have absolutley no idea what is going to happen. Normally, I have an inkling (even if its wrong), but right now I have no idea.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Mornin' guys...
Maumee you are sayin' that we may have to wait until 3 to see if this moves or not?

Possibly....

Theres a great big "Peaser Pennant" that converges three differant ways at that time....I'm sure that some of the support and/or resistance lines in that formation will be breached before then,and we will have to re-evaluate the situation...

I hate the Pennant, flag thing for analysis,but it does have some merritt for timing in the Pennys.IMO

Will keep monitoring
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
"support and/or resistance lines in that formation will be breached "

Exactly, the question now is.....which one will be breached??? Ugh...
 
Posted by Sasquatch on :
 
Big Fish,

You make a good point about the hydro-electric dams.

They didn't construct them very well and flooded TONS of forest in the process. The dams themselves are encountering loads of problems but if this company gets the rights to fish logs out of those areas could be VERY good for them. Whole sections of forest were submerged without any preperations.

Still want to see proof of liquid capital and see that chart start shaping up.

Holding off today but will watch closely.

Sas
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I like the fact the stated their liquid capital in an 8k if it's not correct someone will be in deep dodo
 
Posted by Sasquatch on :
 
They stated bonds in the 8k. Cash on hand is very short. Especially for FHAL. I need more information on that.
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
like MN to much prison time, the sunken logs also produce alot of greenhouse gas and misquito infestation , therefore they want to get rid of them
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
not moving thus far.
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Last two days looks like the Purl did the famous pump and dump. Good one for you SAS and Blue Marlin your great leader left you out. Is there more down days to come?
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Penny stocks don't fall in love with them. Isn't that one of your quotes Blue and SAS
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
nothing but sales this morning. I wonder what that means???

The bid just went down to .19 could we be looking at a big sale here today???HMMMM
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
seems to be going down on very little volume...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Thanks for the update Shomethamoney. I just wonder why you are enjoying it so much.
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
oh maybe it's because they are getting what's coming to them. Ask them Doniboy they're pumpers when they want to be a dumpers when it works for them, but they hate when the hands change.

I am just saying don't fall in love with stocks backed by them and PURL. They all run together.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
there is the .17 again...
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shomethamoney:
Penny stocks don't fall in love with them. Isn't that one of your quotes Blue and SAS

------------------------------------------------
Yep! just goes to show, when ya make rules for yourself, and they are good rules, stick the hell to um....
 
Posted by Sasquatch on :
 
I appreciate that you think I, Burl, and the Fish have that much power shome!

I don't hold that opinion myself but thanks for the thought.

Just willing to explore both the good and the bad of a stock. Don't like getting caught with my pant's down.

Sas
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
OK Gang....2 of those minor support levels just got chowed upon...
If this puppy is gunna close that gap, it may happen real soon...Lookin for a bounce off 13
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Actually Purl said to run away from this one.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee...do the "gaps" always have to get filled?
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Sas, I think your pants are down now. That's good for you and Purl - you both made for each other, then again she isn't posting here so she must have left you holding the bag. Didn't you get the memo??
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shomethamoney:
oh maybe it's because they are getting what's coming to them. Ask them Doniboy they're pumpers when they want to be a dumpers when it works for them, but they hate when the hands change.

I am just saying don't fall in love with stocks backed by them and PURL. They all run together.

-------------------------------------------------
You are way outa line...We don't need that vendetta crap around here anymore, Ka--pish?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
OMG...let's stop the crap...take it off topic! shome...talk the stock, or light convo... or hush..Please...don't attack posters...
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shomethamoney:
Sas, I think your pants are down now. That's good for you and Purl - you both made for each other, then again she isn't posting here so she must have left you holding the bag. Didn't you get the memo??

-------------------------------------------------
Vendetta? will not fly dude.
 
Posted by Sasquatch on :
 
Sorry folks. Won't rise to the bait. Gonna look at other positions for a bit.

Sas
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
I agree with 10, FYI L2 are pretty thin to 0.30, need bid support and this will move.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Maumee...do the "gaps" always have to get filled?

Mostly yes!! They do not fill all the time, but without significant MOMO to drive the stock,odds are it will fill. The sooner the better. They tend to act like a magnet..Gaps are also a huge factor when looking for support and resistance in some cases..
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Mornin MNVESTOR!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Well I have a huge gap between where I bought it and the levels it sank to now. Lets fill that gap [Smile]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
more mirror trades
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks maumee...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Well I have a huge gap between where I bought it and the levels it sank to now. Lets fill that gap [Smile]

LOL!!!
Those gaps are often the hardest to fill...Those and the ones we find between our ears when we make a stupid trade!!
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
It seems to be moving up slowly.
.18 X .185

I'm going to wait this out and see where it goes. I have 300k shares at .08 so I'm still up.
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Spinach anyone?

got the can open now ca-mensing to chew like mad..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
The volume is not nearly what i thought it would be...
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I think it will head back up soon. I will be hanging in there for awhile I think..
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Wonderful, wonderful.

I am invited over here to express an opinion,
now some of the boys are accusing me of being
a pump and dump con artist.

Some of you people are idiots.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I've had a good feeling about this one since I bought it and yes I am down too. I haven't been worried about it at all and the only other stock I could say that about was CBAY. Just a feeling.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Here's some info on the $500M bond.

Posted by bodi on HSM

Found some info...

My concern has been the validity of their bond...many scams out there in reference to bonds etc...these articles seem to support the validity of CVSU... Anyone out there have the ability to investigate this further?

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/pri...&Date=20060427

And for the specific bond info...
http://deutsche-boerse.com/dbag/disp...n=3m&wpbpl=FSE
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
going for the frozen spinach now....
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Purl, that was one guy, not some of us. He is obviously bitter about something that has nothing to do with this stock.
I appreciated your opinion even though it was contrary to my own interests.

[Smile]


quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
Wonderful, wonderful.

I am invited over here to express an opinion,
now some of the boys are accusing me of being
a pump and dump con artist.

Some of you people are idiots.

Purl Gurl


 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
Wonderful, wonderful.

I am invited over here to express an opinion,
now some of the boys are accusing me of being
a pump and dump con artist.

Some of you people are idiots.

Purl Gurl

Are you mine ??
 
Posted by Sasquatch on :
 
My bad there. shome and I don't see eye to eye.

Sas
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Sas, you are on the sidelines still, right? Are you looking for an entry point or still just watching?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Purl, that was one guy, not some of us. He is obviously bitter about something that has nothing to do with this stock.
I appreciated your opinion even though it was contrary to my own interests.

[Smile]


quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
Wonderful, wonderful.

I am invited over here to express an opinion,
now some of the boys are accusing me of being
a pump and dump con artist.

Some of you people are idiots.

Purl Gurl


I agree Purl, you didn't say what I wanted to hear, but I do apprieciate you taking the time to answer my question. Even if you called me a girl. [Wink]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Purl...you were asked to take a look at this by several of us...you did and I for one am thankful...as for the other poster...don't know...he doesn't like some people...or maybe he has PMS (Pennies Moodie Syndrome)...I've noticed several posters suffering from this...it's a horrible thing to have...and it sometimes never passes...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:


Some of you people are idiots.

Purl Gurl

I AGREE!!!
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
sas, even a bigfoot can get foul hooked..
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
price is comming up B/A .19 X .20, lets see some green!
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
well all i had to get out this morning and take what profits i had comming
i think everyone needs to read this ,it sounds way to familier to me

http://www.forests.org/articles/reader.asp?linkid=34773
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
still holding here.
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
More than one.

This well exemplifies the nature of some
participants. I read lots of errors in
threads, like accusing me of being a
pump and dump scamster to ignorant errors
in understanding how Mother Nature's
processes truly operate.

Spelling and grammar is darn good clue, as well.

These people have such inadequate reading
comprehension skills, they cannot understand
much of what is written much less arrive at
reasonably logical conclusions. These are
highly uneducated people; the ignorant.

Makes no sense at all these people are trading
stocks and even less sense readers lend any
credibility to their writings.

Readers will do just as well, benefit as much,
to read bathroom stall wall writings in a
men's restroom at a gas station over in
South Central Los Angeles.

If I am not a paid basher, I am a pump and
dump scamster. Dang, get a brain people.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Sasquatch on :
 
Doniboy. Just looking.

I like the idea behind the company but I'm not going to get in until a few things get cleared up. Not looking for an entry point right now, just keeping tabs on developments.


Looks like your volume is picking up here. Good to see green.

Sas
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
getting out soon Purl..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Heck if that low gap(.13) has to fill this could be a good flip....
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
c'mon...keep goin'....!!!!
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
http://www.americas.org/item_16261

heres another one ,the credits and all that is to fishy for me , been a fun ride though
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Good luck Blackbeard.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
GAH! I am on a business trip and "sort of" been able to follow this. Boy did i ever miss a chance to take my initial investment back with only a SMALL portion of original shares sold!

And i missed discussions about tobacco being stored in various locations. Purl, do you pack menthols? Lights? [Razz]

Too funny. I needed something like that right now, im stuck in Germany until tomorrow. However, i hope you are wrong about the wood. I did do some reading when i had the chance and it seems that the "Slow grown virgin hard woods" will indeed stay preserved under water, potentially forever. The outer layer needs to be scrapped but the goodies are kept inside, like your tobacoo. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Heck if that low gap(.13) has to fill this could be a good flip....

Carefull!!!

I don't like the way this is goin up at the moment....I think the MM's may be playen a game to suck in some victems... I would really prefer this to fill now..It's lookin like we may take a late day slide
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I just want to know what will happen with the merger, after the symbol change. The anticipation is killing me.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
That's my point Maumee..if it is going to go down to .13...then sell now and get back in down there...
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
out at .20
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Id rather see it hit .24 first, then it can dip to .13 for a buy. Thats only my greed speaking however. [Smile]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
That's my point Maumee..if it is going to go down to .13...then sell now and get back in down there...

LOL!! Iguess that is what you said...need more coffee...I was up most the nite..
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
thank doniboy , u 2
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':
out at .20

Did you take a hit on that Fish??
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Is the fish gonna flip? Or is it moving upstream? (wow that was cornbally)
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
So Maumee, how is the weather holding up. Im hearing HOT and getting HOTTER? I fly home tomorrow and you are in my "weather zone". Its pretty much sticky here in Germany but the beer is cold.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
This volume really is lower...wonderin' if that means most are holdin?
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Ten of Attitudes writes,

"...if it is going to go down to .13...then sell
now and get back in down there...."

There you go. Takes a good woman to talk some sense.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
river, yep, had to pull the hook out me self..ouch! damn thing was barbed.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Back up to .2 we go.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Seems the MM's are screwin with it....blastards!
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
anybody got a cigarette
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':
anybody got a cigarette

Why are you over at Purl's house? [Wink]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Ok, there goes my hour on the net. Home on monday though, cant wait to see what happens!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Was it good for you Blue? LOL
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
The last hour will prolly bring a lot of selling pressure IMO.

It's Friday, this needs to retrace a bit for a few days I believe.

Guard your profits or take a smaller loss than what it could be IMO.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks Peaser!
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
YW 10.
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Was it good for you Blue? LOL

-------------------------------------------------
what the minute sex? ahhhhhhhhh just got thrown out in South LA! WHALE WHACKED! but she did give me directions the rest room...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
The fhal web site is now redirected to CVSU (has been since yesterday). I guess its a done deal.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Purl I found this on the effects of timber being completely submerged in water.

http://books.google.com/books?vid=LCCNagr09000837&id=fsniLcEwiAsC&pg=PA258&lpg=P A258&ots=QbH86J8zKF&dq=is+submerged+timber+preserved
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
theres a show on the travel channel or maybe its discovery channel, anyway its called dirty jobs with Mike Rowe and one of the jobs he's gone along with and explored is retrieving sunken logs. I watched the entire episode and not only does it seem like a relatively simple process but it is quite profitable as well. They were showing comparisons of the old virgin wood vs. the newer tree wood and there is significantly more rings per inch which gets top dollar on the market. The articles that someone has been posting about trees in a reservoir and how they are corroding and being difficult to get out is totally different. Those trees are still in the ground and have branches and what not still on them and rise up close to the top of the water where there is oxygen. The logs we're talkin about are completely prepped and are solid actual logs, not trees; that they used to float down rivers to transport to lumber mills. most made it but some sunk and are at the bottom of the river (nowhere near the top) and there is next to no oxygen down there which has kept the wood preserved in its original condition and now fetches top dollar. Im not makin this stuff up, i saw it being pulled out from the bottom of the rivers and it looked just like new. It even showed them take it to the mill where they cut it down into 2x4's , etc...looked like some nice wood to me.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
There are about 100 companies in this country making money off sugmerged wood. I don't think we need to debate the plausibility of it. I understand that some are saying that the warm water of the Amazon could be worse for the wood, but I'm sure that there are losses in cold water as well for whatever reason.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
If you got to the link I just wrote it's a one page snap shot and the guy says as long as the timber is completely submerged it doesn't matter what the climate is it will be preserved he went on to give an example 0f 5000 year old coffins that were in the Nile river being almost perfectly preserved
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Good find Ryan.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
thank you hopefully that will put an end to all of us non experts contemplating if the wood will still be good.
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Sacramento, you don't need the tube to see the logs, just go down to the Sacramento river...... For yrs snags have been razing a ruckus with boats and people....Bodies are often found amongst the snags after a mishap..Some snags have been in the same location on the river for decades..Hit one in a boat, you will find out how solid they are.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
The fhal web site is now redirected to CVSU (has been since yesterday). I guess its a done deal.

its my understanding it is a done deal... 15 days from... yesterday or whenever and the symbol changes... sitting out yet seein how this is panning out if i get in with more. might wait till monday....
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
lol, well i havnt seen any logs personally but you are right. when the water levels dropped a while back, there were talks of boats hitting the wood debris underwater. dont really know the history to say whether they are logs that were cut down years ago which sunk or just fallen trees in the river..
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Well PRowds we will welcome you aboard at that time, even though you are probably a Broncos fan.....Go Patriots!!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Purl, I've read how MM's have signals to eachother. If it is true, do you know what those signals are?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'm sure some of you have been through these reverse-merger, symbol change moves in the past. I was in NDOL when it was announced but got out before the axe fell (thank God). How has the experience been for you guys? Did the new symbol gap up (or down) before the bell on the first day? Was it a positive experience cash-wise? Just curious, thanks.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Purl, I've read how MM's have signals to eachother. If it is true, do you know what those signals are?

No one knows for sure...and they would always change...IMO
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
MM Signals (true or false?)......
a-Signals between MMs...
100 > I need shares
200 > I need shares badly but dont take it down to get em
300 > Take the price down to get shares....
400 > Trade it sideways based on Supply and Demand
500 > Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction
of the 500 trade. Sometimes -if in the middle -keep the price right where it is.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Doniboy..I have only gone through one...and My borker didn't get the symbol change done for about 3 days...and yes the stock moved up slightly the first day or 2..and then by the time I was able to sell...went down quite a bit...
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Dow, Nasdaq, S&P....down hard again, ouch.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
anyone having problem logging in ameritrade? damn, they are killing me
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':
Dow, Nasdaq, S&P....down hard again, ouch.

It's gettin ugly fast
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I sold all out X .20 earlier this morning and will pick back up later when its done filling....

Thanks for keeping us in reality Purl. By the way choctaw from where? I'm choctaw-apache out of Louisiana!
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
anyone having problem logging in ameritrade? damn, they are killing me

-------------------------------------------------
yep!
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
On the subject of logs, I must use the shi***
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
anyone having problem logging in ameritrade? damn, they are killing me

Can't get in either...they suck today
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Damn 10!!! My puter just took a chit for the last twenty minutes....What kinda bad vodoo are ya hexin me with??
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
LOL [Eek!]

quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
On the subject of logs, I must use the shi***


 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
thanks doni, got in 2 days ago before the big run. but contemplating throwin much more in if it feels good.

haha, broncos?! i'm from wisconsin originally, go pack go! [Wink] just movin back to the sconse but took a position with a company called datapath out of atlanta. be there for 3 weeks then going to iraq as a civie contractor. too bad datapath wasn't on the exchange...
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
all kinds of logs a heading down the maume river...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I gotta take a few minutes away from teh screen. This tick-watching is brutal.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Not me Maumee....nope! notta! couldn't be! LOL
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
whewwww..... glad i sold EFCR yesterday....
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
looking at me fly rod right now...

10, plesae do not mas-a-cree my post.
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
ameritrade just finally let me back in
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
not mine.. crap
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':
looking at me fly rod right now...

10, plesae do not mas-a-cree my post.

just shakin' my head...not sayin' a word...
you look at what ever you want hun!Maumee has a magnifying glass...maybe he would share...
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"Purl, I've read how MM's have signals to eachother.
If it is true, do you know what those signals are?"

Ten of Attitudes has answered this perfectly.

Darn, telling you, Ten is becoming a Purl Gurl!
Watch out, soon Ten will be nothing but trouble!

There was a time all of us believed this to be true.
Today, none of us are sure. Long ago, you could
find published lists of Market Maker signals. Do
not see those anymore. I am not sure but what
those lists were a hoax.

Be sure there are Market Maker signals. This does
happen without doubt. I suspect, today, this is
done more through phone calls and text messaging
between Market Makers who know each other well.

On deciphering signals, I would say this is
quite impossible.

There is a lot of information available on
Market Maker tactics, practices and behavior.

I will add Market Makers are blamed far too often
for behavior of a stock. Yes, there is manipulation
but nowhere near the extent of years back. Today,
almost all transactions are purely electronic.

Nonetheless, there is still enough manipulation
by Market Makers to be of great concern.

NITE, UBSS, QUIN and a few others, really bad boys.

Research and reading will help you to understand
Market Makers and I _strongly_ urge you to learn
all you can about this topic.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by 6digits on :
 
Heres some help.
http://books.google.com/books?vid=LCCNagr09000837&id=fsniLcEwiAsC&pg=PA258&lpg=P A258&ots=QbH86J8zKF&dq=is+submerged+timber+preserved
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
Good input on the MMs, Purl. Thanks.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Funny, I hate UBSS and NITE. Everytime they touch a stock I own it tanks!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
ameritrade just finally let me back in

You havin trouble as well??? The blastards won't let me log in...

Keeps sayen "The form you requested is not avail. at this time"

What the F is that??? ERRRRRRRRR!!!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
they just had to pick a friday selloff to go down.. sob's
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Dusty EMPTY YOUR MAILBOX
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
NITE and UBSS are always bad news. When they
are the major players, you can assume intense
manipulation is taking place.

Challenge is both will drive a stock upward,
or will drive a stock downward, depending on
their objective.

Readers should research NITE (Knight) Market Maker.
You will discover NITE has been censored by the
SEC multiple times and fined hundreds of millions.
This does not change their behavior; profits are
far greater than SEC fines.

Keep in mind, Market Makers are actually licensed
brokers. Might be Schwab, might be TD Waterhouse,
might be Etrade. All have been sanctioned by the
SEC at one time or another. All have been caught
engaging in unlawful activities.

Commission of financial crimes by Wall Street
companies is the norm, the expected, not the
exception, not at all.

What we traders face is we _must_ play along
wtih the Market Makers to be successful. We
are primarily buying from Market Makers and
selling to Market Makers. If one of our bid
orders or ask orders is not in keeping with
Market Maker intent, no execution.

You must play the game run by Market Makers.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
Can someone post L2's? Ameritrade is down for me i can't log on. Thanks
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yep...Dance the dance with the MM's and let them lead....and you will win...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
F-ing Ameritrade is really PISSEN ME OFF!!!

Anyone know whats up??? I have no access to a phone at the moment!!!!1
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Bid

.175 x 1
.166 x 1
.165 x 1

Ask

.18 x 1
.19 x 2
.21 x 1
.22 x 1
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
bid-1x .1750
1x1660
1x1650

ask 1x.18
2x19
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
Phone wouldn't help you right now anyway...been on hold for 35 minutes already...I am sooooo done with this broker...
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
Thanks
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by buck*******:
Phone wouldn't help you right now anyway...been on hold for 35 minutes already...I am sooooo done with this broker...

Thanks for the feedback Buck!!!

Who has a better service than ameritrade......Let me guess...Everyone!!!!
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
i've never had a problem with choicetrade , they actually went the extra mile once
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I've never had problems with Fidelity, Scottrade, Choicetrade, or Sharebuilder.

I have Dell inspiron 6000 with wireless internet through 50mps router. Bellsouth is the dsl carrier.

Good luck in getting everything set and trading again.
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
you know what?, i doesnt let me in past the homepage, damn ameritrade! funny part is i'm completely logged off, the only window i have open is my L2 window for FHAL and that is still running...
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
actually firstrade has been good to me to there com's are a little higher , but i keep them for my free realtime L2 when my java is working right
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
river, been biz with the A prob. left a spot..

last data at 12:23:46 hrs.

ya know us un-ed -jee- cated types, we have probs. with plugging in light bulbs..Can't get um in those two holes in the wall.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
havn't had any problems with scottrade...
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
ok, they're up again..finally
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
yep, free trades?
10 still, lol lady..
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
are we coming off the bottom?
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
I hope we did bottom out. I'm way down on this, but I'm holding. I've gotten burned selling for losses, then watching the sucker come up again.
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
about signals: think about it for a moment....
100-500 signal
other traders could just be playing with your head..What a set up, if you ya think it's market makers...

me stars is going down in flames! bets out there on when I hit one? hmmmm can 1 star me self?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I remember being in RSHN when we figured out one of the MM's signals was 911. Every time we saw 911 shares at the ask we bounced up, every time we saw 911 at the bid we slid down. It was actually pretty funny. Then one of our Allstocks posters did a quick 911 buy and it sent it up a few ticks before it stopped. It never happened again after that. I guess that they found out that we were on to them. I mean 911 shares were only like $9 at the time. He spent just as much on the trade fee...lol
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
sold 1/3 of my shares today.. .175 .. ouch.. o well. catching some FGFC and PTSC ..planning for small gains, but more hopeful..
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Well thanks alot Ameritrade!!!

You blastards cost me few bucks.....

God knows. Nobody needs help losing money!!
 
Posted by rocktrader on :
 
We need to talk to someone at FHAL and ask them to reales a PR to clear our questions...

does anyone know the investor relations mail id?
 
Posted by rocktrader on :
 
XKEM baby...by tuesday we should see 100%..

I liked the action..
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
OUCH....
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i can't imagine what the really big spenders are feeling right now...although i'm sure ya'll were smart enough to get rid of/buy early enough to not care...

i wanna puke myself...
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Double OUCH!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
EOD... i imagine should be worse...
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 

 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Hopefully it's the gap that "people" were saying needed to get filled..down to about .13 and then hopefully back up!
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"...small volume brought it down, small volume will
bring it up...."

Almost two-million shares traded. I would not
consider this to be small volume.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
compared to the 18 million yesterday it is.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
This sucks bad. Not one thing has changed since the merger was announced, not one single thing. It ran up 150% and now it is down to lower. What happened to all the optimism that everyone felt at the news. Jeez, it makes no sense.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Doni..the gap has to be filled and it's a Friday...let's see...just protect your capital...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Too late for that 10. This has taken a serious amount of my capital away. I was trying to turn a crumby few weeks into a winner by buying a merger play. I just don't see the negative here. Oh well, I'm in and I guess I'm long. Some news would be nice.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
doni who knows what next week may bring... i'm just imagining it's the routine friday sell off... well hoping... haha, i wanna jump on either EOD or monday and make some bank... i knew i never should have sold GFCI tho...
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I agree with P Rowds. Friday is a normal sell off day. Hopefully nest week we will see some spikes..
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
It is below support now...Looks like it's gunna fill befor close...I say it will close around these levels..15 - 16 area... may slide sideways to close there and fill gap first thing monday..
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
there we go....gunna do it now IMO... Pray for a bounce EOD
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Did ya flp this 10??
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I've been praying all day River. Thank God that I only invest with disposable income...lol.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
One more penny and the hole is filled....Common !!! If your gunna!!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
yeah...wonderin' what I should get back in...or thinkin' of Monday...watchin'...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
these prices are tempting especially if something is released on monday... may slap an order in at .13....
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee...is the gap considered filled?
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Thus far, this stock is behaving precisely
as I indicated, very precisely.

For the few idiots here at Allstocks, which
am I, a paid basher or a pump & dump scamster?
I cannot be both as you claim.

;)

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
WoW !
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
did you see that huge buys at 0.15 range.. hard bounce from 50 day MACD IMO.. lets go up.. WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Maumee...is the gap considered filled?

NOPE!!! I'm suprised too..Hang tough, it will happen.....Damn Ameritrade...It would have been a good flip 10...At least it looks that way so far to me... Nice call..
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Low is .14 - gap remains from .135 to .14.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
yeah...wonderin' what I should get back in...or thinkin' of Monday...watchin'...

0.155-0.155.. this would be 200 day MACD.. should run from there back up... GLTA!!!
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
0.16 printed... and up we go... awesome..
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Not that awsome ...the gap is still there...They'll bring it back..
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hey purl... what do u predict for monday if no news?
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
* screams *

Just like NDOL, GHLT, NLST, IBZT... on and on
for my years here and elsewhere. Write words
readers do not like or, more often, do not
want you to write, here comes the insults
and the threats.

For a pump and dump to succeed, truth must be
completely suppressed. There are no lengths
to which criminals will go to prevent truth
from being told, including unlawful activities
to prevent truth from coming out.

I have been turned into the SEC more times
than all of you combined! Kinda funny, I know
half of the ordinary people at the SEC, including
most of their lawyers.

There is a lesson here for you intelligent
readers and most of you are intelligent, rather
nice people.

When you read these idiots screaming about bashers,
screaming about pump and dump, screaming about
Market Markets, slinging insults, making threats,
even slinging racial slurs as is done to me on
a frequent basis, this is a major warning to
you intelligent readers, something ain't right.

When people hype a stock, either positive hype
or negative hype, I mean very noticeable hype,
best walk away; something ain't right.

There is more to trading stocks than research
and charts. Visiting discussion boards will
quickly disclose if a stock is a pump and dump
scam. This stock is one of those. You need to
look around and discover how much, if any, a
stock is being pumped. Early on, might go for
a ride. A little late in the game, stay away.

There is a distinct human factor today which
comes about through massive internet access.
This is an important factor to consider.

Incidently, paid bashers are an urban myth;
they no longer exist. Pump and dump is the
tactic use these days.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
someone turn you into the SEC again?
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
Thus far, this stock is behaving precisely
as I indicated, very precisely.

For the few idiots here at Allstocks, which
am I, a paid basher or a pump & dump scamster?
I cannot be both as you claim.

[Wink]

Purl Gurl

Fancy that. No, you fancy that.
Oh Jeeves, rub my putsie's ?
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"hey purl... what do u predict for monday if no news?"

I am unable to find anything which will turn
around this expected downtrend.

Only way to change this is good _financial_ news.

Maybe some pumpers might change things, for a
very short time. Highly unlikely; the pump is
over and evidenced by falling prices.

I would expect prices to continue to fall next
week in lieu an event which changes this.

Mine is not a guarantee but an expectation.
I have been wrong lots of times but I do
not think so, this time.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha... thanks purl, you should take a stroll over to GFCI thread in hot stocks... curious what you think about that deal...
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
NMCX

Buyout coming soon.

Pump it up, Oh yeah !!
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
Rowds, I am trying to limit my exposure here.

The NDOL and XKEM boys caused so much trouble
for everyone, my participation is not worth
the price paid by all; they nearly ruined
our Allstocks.

I am lying low, staying over in the off topic
board, staying within my own thread, showing
nude pictures of myself for the boys.

A bit frustrating because, as you know, I help
people make good money, very good money, and
help people avoid taking losses.

However, my emphasis is on teaching new arrivals
how to be safe in stock trading; I am a teacher.

Lately, though, too much trouble caused by
the pump and dump criminals, so I am sitting
off in my own little corner while eating worms
and packing my butt cheeks with Lucky Strikes.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
LMAO! haha, understandable... haha
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Well I am waiting for the next pump then. You may be right Purl, and I may be crazy, but it just may be a lunitic FHAL is looking for (Billy Joel)
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
whats that gap lookin like?
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
I am lying low, staying over in the off topic
board, staying within my own thread, showing
nude pictures of me for the boys.

I swing both ways, hint hint.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
my head hurts...
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Still there .135 to .14
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
wow, cam back to see that my .225 order was filled AND my .15 order geesh, guess we filled that 14-16 gap, lets hope for a good week next week!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
"I am sitting off in my own little corner while eating worms and packing my butt cheeks with Lucky Strikes."

Does That make them butts taste better Purl??? [Eek!] [Eek!] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
gross
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
PURL GURL........ as always entertaining and enlightening!! LMAO! ( in a good way! ) thanks for your input!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Gaps at 135 jmoove....Still OPEN!!
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"Does That make them butts taste better Purl???"

Nah, just means I have a smokin' hot ass.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
"Does That make them butts taste better Purl???"

Nah, just means I have a smokin' hot ass.

Purl Gurl

Thats FUNNY!!! LOL
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
My L2's in etrade are down. Does this look set up to gap Monday?
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Purl Gurl...I'm sort of new to this stuff (got a good lesson in scams with QBID), and I need some help on this one.

How do you tell this is a pump and dump, and just who was it that pumped it? People on this board?

Just wondering.
Milliam
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
.135, i guess you are right, huh, oh well, ill just buy more there, looks like the rsi hits 50 again at .135, Id say we bounce off of that and start the ladder up again
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
hehe.. purl wants you to sell all your shares and buy almi.. lol.. a loss making company with revenues reduced by 50% and net loss increased by 150%.. but hey if you have to sell.please sell it between 0.135-0.14.. because i think MM's are desperately trying to cover it before actually going up.. purl why dont you buy some shares and sell at 0.135 as a favour for all of us [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Im quite suprised how good the chart looks, almost a textbook gap fill, hmmm, what price to buy at next....
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
moving up, might get some vol here
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
5k fill lets see if i can make a quick afternoon flip on this, momentum is building
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"How do you tell this is a pump and dump, and just
who was it that pumped it?"

All this information you need is in this thread.
Lots of very bright people, here, have provided
a lot of good research. Review this thread from
the very beginning.

Ahem, do you see "Slave Girl" tattooed on my forehead?

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:

Ahem, do you see "Slave Girl" tattooed on my forehead?
Purl Gurl

old.. repeated usage... nowww purl are you selling at 0.135??? please do..
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"purl wants you to sell all your shares and buy almi"

Well, gosh, ALMI is up eight cents on the day,
up twenty-five cents for the past couple weeks
and up a dollar sixty-five since a bunch of
us bought ALMI stock.

How is your favorite stock performing?

Blue's parents bought a new BMW and took a three
week vacation in Greece off the profits I earned
for them through ALMI and they still hold ALMI
stock for the future.

You buy yourself a new BMW lately?

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
haaaaaa.... almi.. POS stock... here are your financials

Total Revenue 628 1,035 305
Cost of Revenue 1,312 568 335
Gross Profit (683) 468 (30)

people who bought it at 2.1 range have lost soo much money because of your pumping purl.. you P&D monster [Razz] .. oh well w/e.. fhal is up 0.165...and BxA tightening... might see 0.2 before EOD....
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
"I am sitting off in my own little corner while eating worms and packing my butt cheeks with Lucky Strikes."

Does That make them butts taste better Purl??? [Eek!] [Eek!] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

How's that GAP !!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
gap filled? or is it still open
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 

 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
gap filled? or is it still open

its filled P rowds.. look at chart!!!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
nite pushing bid, cmon baby just a 10-15% flip give me a few bucks for the weekend lol
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
"purl wants you to sell all your shares and buy almi"

Well, gosh, ALMI is up eight cents on the day,
up twenty-five cents for the past couple weeks
and up a dollar sixty-five since a bunch of
us bought ALMI stock.

How is your favorite stock performing?

Blue's parents bought a new BMW and took a three
week vacation in Greece off the profits I earned
for them through ALMI and they still hold ALMI
stock for the future.

You buy yourself a new BMW lately?

Purl Gurl

i see a 52 week low of .78 and a high of 2.17 up about 65 percent over the last 3 months. when did you buy it?
2.17 [Frown] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] .. i wouldnt even touch that loss making companies stock .. next year.. it is going all the way to 0.78.. oh btw those P&D fellows have started pumping it by saying they are going to receive $1 million revenue a month.. lol.. what do they think they are? DeBeers???
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
NMCX. NMC inc. Nevada Mining IS going to 2.00 from .01 in about 5 months.
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
You are just jealous because you cannot afford
a new BMW nor take a vacation in Greece.

ALMI will afford more profits in the future,
very good profits.

You just keep driving that Ford Pinto of yours.

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
closing with some buy pressure. That makes me happy.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
looking good on the close, see yall next week
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
back in at .16....basically almost pre-level news...we'll hear another PR next week...holding for .25
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
Purl, u got any other picks? something near its bottom? i want a BMW too, one of my friends just bought one.. lol.. wish i could have logged into ameritrade today this morning .. was planning to exit at .20 after your DD.. got out some at .175 today.. and i guess i may just see the rest out with this merger or at least the contract..
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
gap filled? or is it still open

its filled P rowds.. look at chart!!!
GAP NOT FILLED!!! .135 to fill it...It never made it...It will..
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
C'mon you guys, quit feeding off Purl Jam.

Don't trust anybody, especially me.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
What are you guys talking about filling the gap? There has got to be news next week...I don't see this going back to premerger levels next week.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Worst week I have ever had in my trading life. Lost more than I care to mention. I am holding and waiting for the merger. Peace....
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
I bought 200,000 shares *.06 awhile ago.

Sold half * .15 ( remember that day, .05 -.15 )

Sold the rest * .32

I guess it was a good thing to do.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
EDITED!!!!

[ July 14, 2006, 16:34: Message edited by: ruskin_muskin ]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Ruskin...dude..do you know what PM stands for?

Leslie is a helpful person...you postin' that that wasn't cool!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Worst week I have ever had in my trading life. Lost more than I care to mention. I am holding and waiting for the merger. Peace....

$40k? well.. that was my opportunity cost..
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Ruskin...dude..do you know what PM stands for?

Leslie is a helpful person...you postin' that that wasn't cool!

YUP!!!
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Crab says it has a headache....
doniboy says worst week...
some just spinning in confusion..
whale says we are nice people, but we are a brick short of a load.

BUT! 10 scares boyz with snakes, and enjoys it!
she don't know we like snakes...........

Me? doniboy and myself have more in common than he may think...
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Ruskin...dude..do you know what PM stands for?

Leslie is a helpful person...you postin' that that wasn't cool!

sorry.. i didnt know who leslie was.. i thought it was just another of purls cronies who agrees on everything she says and come out all force to bash a stock when she is at it.. very often they eat their words..sorry leslie.. didnt know.. my apologies!!!!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Blue....they laughed...after they screamed!
and if it weren't for CHDT...I would be joinin' you and Doniboy...
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
rm, look around, folks are sick and tired of the games..Now you are posting pm's from people...
What a guy....

Guess the score card just got signed on you.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
you guy's do what others tell you to do, maybe o.k. for you. this company is an opportunity, you are not looking deep enough, you want log news, it will be there, probably sitting on rufus desk.
could be monday and this tick symbol change and new open under cvsu and at that a very high open. maybe you need to read the 8-k again, you can talk your self out of anything. this new company is worth more then 8 million (like fhal). and even if there were no logs, this is a good deal.
as far as the logs, it is hardwood, look at whiskey barrels, there is constant fluid in the inside of that barrel, the outside will not get wet because it expands where the fluid is. there is a lot less oxygen in hardwood than a typical pine.
but even without the logs this opportunity is worth a buy. wether you want to keep it or not, it's your choice, but for me, I will put money in the bank, forget flipping pennies for a couple weeks.
sorry in advance if I offend anyone, I am just saying the log deal already had surveyors checking them out, it was in one of the early pr's.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i don't think many here doubt about the wood.. it's doable.. most are worried about the current states, since most are daytrading anyway, few longs
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Whiskey barrels? you should see our town drunk, we are talking leather pre---served.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
I am just saying, this 8-k can be picked apart until it is worthless, rufus can not afford this to be a penny stock and walk into a bank and tell them this co. is woth 800 mil and the shareholders say it is only worth 25 mil., this stock will go up in a rush,
the company has the right to reserve the prs until merger is complete, rufus does not care about us right now , not until we are cvsu,
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
probably one pr after another and keep pushing it up until he reaches it's worth.
he can demand 100 mil deals, he is very powerful.
his company's now range from 15 mil to 100 mil, and the banks believe in him.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':
rm, look around, folks are sick and tired of the games..Now you are posting pm's from people...
What a guy....

Guess the score card just got signed on you.

loll.... it was signed long time back blue... [Smile] .. i have been banned earlier for disagreeing with her.. heck all she does is scares people.. and pumps her own loss making companies stock.. and people with her come in full force.. i remember yesterday someone on xkem chart was like.. this is going red tomorrow and after that.. stock is going to be dead.. and then he calls himself quiet experienced at trading.. wonder how people can make simple mistakes like reading charts wrong and yet claim to be masters at trading.. as for fhal.. i was in at 0.0905, out at 0.16, again back in at 0.15 purely based on chart.. it undoubtedly has to bounce from 0.15.. things happening for company.. heck why would it not bounce from 0.15 and go all the way to 0.3-0.35.. moreover.. the company is real and cvsu is pretty big... not like pgpm who claimed $42 a share..lol..
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
I think i'm just going to play a nice fully disclosing stock on the big board like ENRON..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Ruskin...this has nothing to do with Purl..she was requested to come on this thread and give her opinion...she did...the XKEM...not for this thread...


BUT...the problem was with you posting a PRIVATE MESSAGE...do you know what PRIVATE means? YOU did that...not PURL...who are you going to blaim for that???

PRIVATE...Look it up see if you can understand the "problem" or "issue"!
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':


Me? doniboy and myself have more in common than he may think...

Oh no.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
I am sitting
off in my own little corner while eating worms
and packing my butt cheeks with Lucky Strikes.

Purl Gurl

Mmmm, Lucky Strikes.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:


PRIVATE...Look it up see if you can understand the "problem" or "issue"!

easy 10... i have already apologised for poting privqate message and also edited my post... dont know what more expect from me in that regard .. [Smile]
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Marlin':
I think i'm just going to play a nice fully disclosing stock on the big board like ENRON..

or hom or watever it is... heck i bought 2 days back... yet to sell it..
 
Posted by Purl Gurl on :
 
"Whiskey barrels? you should see our town drunk...."

More decades back than I will ever admit, I standing
all of four feet tall out front of Hendon's general
store, watching old men play checkers and dip snuff.

Here comes my great Uncle Louis Vanderver up the old
dirt road leading past Church House Hill into
Eagletown. He is not all that great, he is an uncle
twice removed.

Darn hot humid day, everyone has big sweat circles
around their armpits. I up and say to the checkers
playing tobacco spitting old men, "Here comes my
drunk Uncle Vic!" He is swaying around in circles
atop his horse, leaning back, leaning forward,
almost falling off his horse. Two uncles are
standing not far away, staying in the shade. "Well,
here comes Louis, looks he is drunk again."

My other uncle quips, "Nah, Louis ain't drunk,
his horse is drunk."

Purl Gurl
 
Posted by JohnDoe on :
 
C/P at i-hub

Just spoke with Rufus Harris

The context of my conversation was about the paragraph in the 8K below. Now as a disclaimer I do not want to be accused of being a pumper or starting rumors. It is possible I did not fully understand his explanation. So I do not vouch for the accuracy of this data or my ability to interpret it. In other words this info may be wrong or misunderstood by me. What I am about to say will cause a reaction so take it as my interpretation even though I felt like he was being quite clear. I make no recomendation to buy or sell based on this info. Call him and make your own judgements about what he says.

Anyway about the paragraph below

Basically what "I understood" him to say it meant

Is if the stock does not close at $15 at time of merger each shareholder can opt to take shares 1 for 1 no reverse in new company or can opt to take $15 in cash less whatever the closing price is. I specifically asked who would make that decision and he said it up to the shareholder. I then told him I hold shares in FHAL not CVSU so would I be entitled to either the shares or the money at my discretion. He said yes.

Next question was how in the world could the company pay everyone $15 per shares. He said they have 3.5 billion dollars in either assets or contracts with $500 million in cash.

Now that being said I am confused. First this just seems to good to be true and second I do not fully understand section 2.6 below but I can't make the connection between what that says and what I was told. Third $500 million $$$$. I did not see that on any balance sheet.

I want this to be true but am confused. I wish the company would issue a PR and clarify this issue.

Others should call and see if they understand the same thing and report back.


2.6 AVERAGE CLOSING PRICE ADJUSTMENT.

In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2 nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price; (b) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ) an amount in cash equal to $15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price per share of Buyer's Stock to be received by such holders of Company Shares; or (c) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay no additional consideration to the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ). In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date.
 
Posted by Blue Marlin' on :
 
Barbaro might make it..
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Why the heck would a company put anything in there that would guarantee stockholders a certain pps. That doesn't make sense.

My take on that paragraph (and its really more of a guess) is that the holding company (the people swapping out CVSU shares for FHAL) would have to pay the $15 deal. I'm guessing this is put in here so that the holding company wouldn't delay the transfer of the shares. AGAIN....TOTAL GUESS HERE!

Interesting though. I'll stick around and get my $15+ I think.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnDoe:
C/P at i-hub

Just spoke with Rufus Harris

faith4more on ihub appears either a newbie or dubious.. he joined ihub recently, and all his posts are on FHAL only? calls into question his credibility, but cannot say that absolutely.. I will take this post with a grain of salt!
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Why the heck would a company put anything in there that would guarantee stockholders a certain pps. That doesn't make sense.

My take on that paragraph (and its really more of a guess) is that the holding company (the people swapping out CVSU shares for FHAL) would have to pay the $15 deal. I'm guessing this is put in here so that the holding company wouldn't delay the transfer of the shares. AGAIN....TOTAL GUESS HERE!

Interesting though. I'll stick around and get my $15+ I think.

lol.. same wid me [Smile]
 
Posted by JohnDoe on :
 
How much would it cost a company if they want to be listed on OTCBB?!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
John, that's sorta like asking, "How much does it cost to build a house?" or "How long does it take to get there?"

Depends where "the company" is now...
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
big company, and a log contract ???? possibly.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
john, good, great phone call and useful info, thanks...........
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Ruskin...dude..do you know what PM stands for?

Leslie is a helpful person...you postin' that that wasn't cool!

sorry.. i didnt know who leslie was.. i thought it was just another of purls cronies who agrees on everything she says and come out all force to bash a stock when she is at it.. very often they eat their words..sorry leslie.. didnt know.. my apologies!!!!!!
Who cares. Do you hang out with these people ? Go to the park with them? I post things I know will PO everyone, like this here. But I dont care.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
JohnDoe,
All that info being said, is he allowed to tell that info? I'm not sure what all was in the filed form or what the stipulations are, didn't have time to look.

Quotes:
He said they have 3.5 billion dollars in either assets or contracts with $500 million in cash.

Third $500 million $$$$. I did not see that on any balance sheet.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ruskin_muskin/QUOTE]Who cares. Do you hang out with these people ? Go to the park with them? I post things I know will PO everyone, like this here. But I dont care.

lol tylee..
 
Posted by booboobaby on :
 
I want it, money.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnDoe:
C/P at i-hub

Just spoke with Rufus Harris

The context of my conversation was about the paragraph in the 8K below. Now as a disclaimer I do not want to be accused of being a pumper or starting rumors. It is possible I did not fully understand his explanation. So I do not vouch for the accuracy of this data or my ability to interpret it. In other words this info may be wrong or misunderstood by me. What I am about to say will cause a reaction so take it as my interpretation even though I felt like he was being quite clear. I make no recomendation to buy or sell based on this info. Call him and make your own judgements about what he says.

Anyway about the paragraph below

Basically what "I understood" him to say it meant

Is if the stock does not close at $15 at time of merger each shareholder can opt to take shares 1 for 1 no reverse in new company or can opt to take $15 in cash less whatever the closing price is. I specifically asked who would make that decision and he said it up to the shareholder. I then told him I hold shares in FHAL not CVSU so would I be entitled to either the shares or the money at my discretion. He said yes.

Next question was how in the world could the company pay everyone $15 per shares. He said they have 3.5 billion dollars in either assets or contracts with $500 million in cash.

Now that being said I am confused. First this just seems to good to be true and second I do not fully understand section 2.6 below but I can't make the connection between what that says and what I was told. Third $500 million $$$$. I did not see that on any balance sheet.

I want this to be true but am confused. I wish the company would issue a PR and clarify this issue.

Others should call and see if they understand the same thing and report back.


2.6 AVERAGE CLOSING PRICE ADJUSTMENT.

In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2 nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price; (b) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ) an amount in cash equal to $15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price per share of Buyer's Stock to be received by such holders of Company Shares; or (c) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay no additional consideration to the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ). In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date.

fellas? (ie, not only this poster) PLEASE provide links when re-posting...
 
Posted by JohnDoe on :
 
Tex: it's file in the 8k did you look at it..bieng just join the investing world only couple of month i dunno that much can you give us your input? I also did call today at work Rufus say the same thing was'nt on for long cause my boss was checking on me.As for the C/P it at ihub

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12045135
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
I am with tylee, back off, and lets get back to business. leave RM alone, this thread is one that can be very frustrating, RM made a mistake and I am sure we all have at one time or another.
be happy [Wink]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
EDITED!!!!

Thanks! [Wink]
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
hehe... fhal izza gorilla [Razz] [Razz]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
no way that they are giving us $15 a share. Oh how I wish that it were true, but lets be serious. I could buy my new house in cash....
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
OK people, I want $15 a share, but it won't happen, here is the 8K broken down:

FRONTHAUL GROUP INC., a Delaware corporation (the "Buyer");
Conversion Solutions, Inc., a Delaware corporation and a holding company (the "Company").

FHAL IS THE BUYER
CVSU IS THE COMPANY

The Buyer and the Company desire to effect a merger pursuant to which the Company will merge into the Buyer, with the Buyer being the surviving corporation
FHAL IS THE SURVIVING COMPANY

set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ) an amount in cash equal to $15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price per share of Buyer's Stock to be received by such holders of Company Shares;

PAY THE HOLDERS OF COMPANY SHARES MEANS PAY CVSU SHAREHOLDERS

RECEIVING SHARES OF BUYERS STOCK AS MERGER CONSIDERATION MEANS THAT CVSU SHAREHOLDERS ARE BEING PAID IN FHAL STOCK AS CONSIDERATION FOR THE MERGER AND CAN TRADE IT IN FOR $15 IF FHAL lets them

In other words. At the time of the merger FHAL (the surviving holdings company) has a choice. They can give current CVSU shareholders a 1:1 share of the new FHAL stocks and keep the price where it is at, they can pay them $15 per share instead, or they can set the opening price of FHAL's new symbol at $15 and give them shares.

We, the buyers, are just keeping our shares. The only way we benefit from this paragraph is if the opening price is set at $15 (and we can sell before it crashes)
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I want it to be true, Lord knows I do, but it isn't. This is still a good play I think, we are inheriting a lot of value with our new company.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
well, 100 mil shares outstanding of the new company stock at 15 per share is only 1.5 bil. rufus has his job cut out for him to get this price up to 15 per share by the end of next week or he pays 15 per share to 23 mil cvsu shares.
as far as it crashing, this at the time of merger is not a penny stock company anymore, there will be plenty of money and buyers to keep the price up.
this is still in premerger status. at least until sat. the 22nd.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
actually it is Rufus' choice he doesn't "have" to pay $15, its only one of his options.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
but rufus is saying his current 23,290,000 shares are worth the 15 pps.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
off to work I go, need to make money. plus this schedule sucks
 
Posted by sukkaseeker on :
 
apparently CVSU own "Stargate Productions, Inc." does anyone know what this is??? Is it the T.V. show???, because I'm finding that much else of what they own is crap! CVSU coffee shop? Is that there coffe machine at the office??? Equine solutions amounts to five horses they have for sale for about $15,000 a piece...

What CVSU seems to me to be is an Insurance scam... they by a "company" that has a certian "value" get it insured at that value (or more), and when the "company" collapses, they get the insurance money... I haven't any real proof of this. But, the "companies" they have joint venture with -and everyone they deal with IS a joint venture- isn't worth much... I'm scared!!!
 
Posted by sukkaseeker on :
 
also, can anybody find or direct me to a chart of CVSU? I have found at the OTCBB website I am not "allowed" to view the daily chart, nor are there any charts available for viewing prior to yesterday... NO charts... how does a public company not have any stock charts to view??? Anyone???
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
They have not traded, thats why there is no chart. They have basically been operating as a private company. You can view the chart at Ya hoo, but there is zero activity.
As for the insurance scam stuff you're talking about, I would be careful making accusations of that nature without any proof. Especially when you make no sense at all. If the company's holdings are not giant moneymakers, well that only goes toward explaining why they are a pink sheet company, it does not mean it is a scam. For your information, I have worked in the insurance industry for years and you cannot insure "Business failure". Nobody gets any money if a company "Collapses". The only way to collect insurance is if there is a loss from a peril (fire, wind, flood), not for bankruptcy. Also, if a company had several suspicious losses in companies that they owned, their insurance would cost an absolute fortune and they would be investgated by the Insurance comapnies themselves. That is a ridiculous accusation.
I am sorry if this sounds like I am attacking you, but really, you can't just publish a paragraph on the web accusing people of Insurance Fraud when you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Its called Libel (which, incidentally you can buy insurance for)
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Ah, the best part of the whole deal: [Big Grin]

http://www.runbylove.com/
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
the letter of intent news between ceota and fhal has been removed from the ceota website.
guess they are being super hush...hush.
they did replace it with news on C02. dont know what it means but does mention world bank, but I dont have time to read it right now.
 
Posted by sukkaseeker on :
 
thanks Doniboy
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
I think this is the bond info ???

27/06 Conversion Solutions announces 500 million USD Investment









KENNESAW, Ga., Thursday, April 27, 2006/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC: CVSU) announces that during the SB-2 filing process the following current events have taken place.

CVSU would like to announce the signing of a Global Funding agreement with Ismet Paez of The Caracas Group. The funding agreement brings 500 Million United States Dollar denominated Global, Bonds on the Republic of Venezuela with a 13.625% annual coupon; to CVSU’s financials. The bond has been loaded in the Euroclear system.

The bond also trades under symbol (VEZD) on the Deutsche Borse Frankfort market.

“We have been working diligently toward Hypothecation of the Bonds for liquidly. We have received written pre-approval for a credit line on the bonds and are in the final phases of execution. This process is very important to the launch of CVSU’s business model for the funding of the projects and Asset Backed Security (ABS) origination,” stated Ben F. Stanley, COO.

“The Board of directors has decided to complete the Credit facility prior to filing the SB-2; we feel that the addition of this asset is beneficial to the shareholders value,” stated Rufus Paul Harris, CEO.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
the joint venture with aiss is pretty awesome, neat stuff.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
the aiss on the website cvsu.us looks like that venture might be a big producer for the company.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
So when are we going to see more PR's? Will they be released by FHAL or CVSU? Anyone care to hazard a guess?
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
the next pr we will see will be by the 23rd, then we should be slammed.
pr's will happen on the day of actual merger.
within 15 days from the 8th of july.
cvsu can not release or wont until the merger.
they have until the last day to opt out of the merger.
think they are playing by the book.
glad to see that.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
also in the 8-k, unless I am just reading right over the top, they are not showing any revenues from operations.
on there website they have/own some pretty neat companies. the aiss, looks like a very, very good venture.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
now they own a huge log job when this is completed. looks like they get every company they go after.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
looks like they might have a hard time getting to the nasdaq, this is one way they can do it, by useing fhal.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Is this good? great? the best?


CONVERSION SOLUTIONS, INC.

(A Development Stage Company)

Statement of Operations

January 1, 2006 through March 31, 2006





Ordinary Income:



Income (loss) $ 0

Other Income $ 0



Total Income $ 0



Expenses:

Automobile $ 4,486

Bank Service Charges $ 1,413

Building Repairs $ 8,479

Communications $ 1,534

Contributions $ 445

Payroll Expenses $ 177,883

Postage & Delivery $ 549

Professional Fees:

Legal Fees $ 5,000

Total Professional fees



Rent $ 18,500

Telephone $ 8,975



Travel & Entertainment $ 19,576



Other Expenses $ 21,409

Contractual $ 14,238

Supplies $ 1,296

Total Expenses $ 284,019



Net Income (loss) ($ 284,019)



Loss per common Share ($ 0.01)










CONVERSION SOLUTIONS, INC.

(A Development Stage Company)

Statement of Cash Flows

January 1, 2006 - March 31, 2006







OPERATING ACTIVITIES

Net Income ($ 284,019)

Net Cash Provided by Operating Activities

INVESTING ACTIVITIES: ($ 284,019)



Stables ($277,000)

UCC Security Notes ($ 310,138,000)

Interest Receivable (33,125,000)

Long-Term Investment in Bonds ($ 500,000,000)

Net Cash Provided by Investing Activities ($ 843,540,000)





FINANCING ACTIVITIES

Capitol Stock $ 2,329

Accumulated Other Comprehensive Income $ 803,430,836

Note Payable $ 4,400,000

Long-Term Note $ 36,000,000



$ 843,833,165





Net Cash Increase (decrease) for the period $ 9,146




Conversion Solutions, Inc.
125 TownPark Drive Suite 300
Kennesaw, GA 30144
www.cvsu.us
Phone: (770) 420-8270
Fax: (404) 393-9824



Copyright © 2005 Conversion Solutions, Inc.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
I have seen all this, thanks.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4bidon:
I have seen all this, thanks.

I do not care if you have seen it or not.....

I was asking for opinionS on the stock and this info in one. Thanks.

Don't worry, I already sold all my shares and profited but was considering getting back in.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 


[ July 16, 2006, 11:18: Message edited by: 4bidon ]
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:
Originally posted by 4bidon:
I have seen all this, thanks.

I do not care if you have seen it or not.....

I was asking for opinionS on the stock and this info in one. Thanks.

Don't worry, I already sold all my shares and profited but was considering getting back in.

kind of a harsh opening statement that contradicts itself.
you dont care if I have seen it or not ??
but you are after opinions ??
do you care if any one seen it, or not??
anyway, with that aside, the gap has been filled and will go up or sideways, not expecting one ounce of news until merger is complete, should be by the 23rd. it might move up on news anticipation.
when merger is complete, expect several pr's, they will try to move this to 15 bucks. lol
there is a lot of info they have kept from us until day of merger.... good luck
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
You cleaned that up 4....I know you did ....Common,, what did your edited post say????

You can tell me, I can keep a secret!!

Whisper it if you must!!!

LOL

P.S.

GAP IS NOT CLOSED
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4bidon:
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:
Originally posted by 4bidon:
I have seen all this, thanks.

I do not care if you have seen it or not.....

I was asking for opinionS on the stock and this info in one. Thanks.

Don't worry, I already sold all my shares and profited but was considering getting back in.

kind of a harsh opening statement that contradicts itself.
you dont care if I have seen it or not ??
but you are after opinions ??
do you care if any one seen it, or not??
anyway, with that aside, the gap has been filled and will go up or sideways, not expecting one ounce of news until merger is complete, should be by the 23rd. it might move up on news anticipation.
when merger is complete, expect several pr's, they will try to move this to 15 bucks. lol
there is a lot of info they have kept from us until day of merger.... good luck

Let me explain myself. I meant I do not care if YOU have seen it or not, sorry that was harsh of me. I am asking of the opinions of ones that can be trusted and have been around for awhile, like some of my buds or others I know.

I like cold hard FACTS and was curious of how this looks to others. I know how it looks to me.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
no prob MMMoney, just been reading everything on this up to a year ago in press releases, just seeing where they want to go with this.. [Smile]
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
river rat , gap was 15 - 17 right???
needed to pick back up at 16 .... hope I got this right.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Gap is still open at .135 to .14.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
THere is still a gap from .135 to .14 that hasn't filled yet. I don't know if it will fill or not came close on Friday then bounced back up to close at .164.

http://www.stockwatch.com/swnet/utilit/utilit_snapsh_result.aspx
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=FHAL&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p43091172267
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
 -
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
So hopefully we fill the gap quickly and then bounce like a superball in low gravity.

Unless of course it wants to ignore the gap and just go straight up, that would be good too [Smile]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i wonder if that gap is that significant at this point.. we may just see another NDOL, where the next wave of PRs will drive us to the moon
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
checked with another chartist tonight--we both agree this needs to print .135 to fill that gap...

me? I would be hesitant to trade it monday in lieu of good, strong volume/ut ...

as posted, falls on much less volume than it takes to rise...

Because FA-jury still out? would be real careful, here...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Being careful is tough sometimes. [Smile]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I must agree with ya TEX...The gap must and will fill.....As far as bein carefull goes...well... too late...Thanks to F-ing Ameritrade and the little glitch they had Friday I couldn't get out of my posisition.. Will sell for small loss or cost average to save neck!!
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
L2 looks good. 3 on bid at .16. May gap before open.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Where are you gettin the 3 on bid at .16

I only see one!!
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
I must agree with ya TEX...The gap must and will fill.....As far as bein carefull goes...well... too late...Thanks to F-ing Ameritrade and the little glitch they had Friday I couldn't get out of my posisition.. Will sell for small loss or cost average to save neck!!

sell it early.. prolly around 0.135-0.14... i will put a bid around dat range [Smile] ..
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
5 x .16


1 x .164
2 x .17
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
morning guys (and gals) Should get interesting in here today.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
6x16 now
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
i would put money that we see a PR today or tomorrow, if a substantial (amazon) PR comes forget about filling that gap.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
premarket buys coming in.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
buys pre market at .164 - B/A 6/.16 by 1/.164 -2/.17 - 2/.18
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'm not sure that we will see PR's until after the merger. Thats what they are saying on Ihub.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
L2's anyone?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
4 x .17

2 x .18
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
.18 getting hit hard.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
moving fast.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
It's off again!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
19 getting hit hard...
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
.185 X .19 moving pretty well here!! maybe .20 comming!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
.20
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
printing .20!! up 21 percent!! on LOW volume!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Wow, this thing is taking off on low volume...should explode today!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
stall here, will it move up now or retrace a little? L2's anyone.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
L2`s .19 X .195 / 1 by 2
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Shake?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
.185 X .19 - 1 by 3
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Doniboy, what happened to JJ's list he was calling about?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I don't know, he hasn't posted.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
lets get this order filled at .135!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I actually wouldn't mind that P rowds, then we can finally hear the end of the damn gap...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
ticking up again
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
getting over .21 today would cause a bullish engulfing pattern, very nice, but i think chances of that are pretty slim
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Slim maybe, but not impossible.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
the ask is getting hit slowly but surely.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
ask is creeping up! now .189
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
.19 [Smile]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
ask is at .20! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
B/A .19 x .20, lots of buying so far today.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
bid is pretty strong, hoping on hope we see a nice PM surge
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Yep, they be pushing it pretty hard.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I'm not a TA guy so what would have to occur for the gap issue to become a non-issue? In other words, what would have to occur so our TA guys would be saying, "this isn't going to hit the gap"
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
raised the bid now .192 x .20
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
What is the current resistance at? .20?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
I think if we can break through .21 this will move up fast. B/A now .198 x .20
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
.20 getting hit [Smile]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
I'm not a TA guy so what would have to occur for the gap issue to become a non-issue? In other words, what would have to occur so our TA guys would be saying, "this isn't going to hit the gap"

A close above .225 would make me look again
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
they need to tighten up that spread...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
I agree maumee, .225 would signal a sure uptrend against resistance especially making a climb on this low volume
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
does it have to close at or above .225 or does a .225 HOD count?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
close above
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
does it have to close at or above .225 or does a .225 HOD count?

It all counts....A close over .225 today would be better....]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
price 0.185

0.18 x 0.20
big spread
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
huge spread.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
someone just bought 100k at 18
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
they just made $1500 with that uptick [Smile]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
bid still at .18 tho
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
The 100k buy went through really fast, didn't even split it up.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
at 0.20, again
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Lots of indecision here from what I can see. People don't want to sell, so that's a good sign, but the buyers are reluctant as well- probably looking at that gap that river rat and rowds keep mentioning. Its a crap shoot today boys. BTW, where is 10from13??
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
people bored over here?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
hello????
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I'm here...still watching...that "damn gap" thing is hitting me upside the head...I have been waiting for it to fill...so that I can jump back in...but as Maumee said if it closes above .225...then I guess it's not a concern...and if it does that then I will have missed the boat...Decisions.... decisions
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Lonely, I'm mister Lonely, I've got nobody, to call my own...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i'm here... still watching ticks on this and GFCI... hoping for a good entry point on this before any news;)
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Lonely, I'm mister Lonely, I've got nobody, to call my own...

LMAO!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Sorry Doniboy haven't had much time to read over hear. Trying to figure out GFCI. Looks like thing are kinda slow today. I think it's only a matter of time and we'll be good to go.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Well, I do trust Maumee's chart talents, but he does admit himself that there is at least one contingency where this gap will not fill (the .225 thing). Either way good luck 10.


quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I'm here...still watching...that "damn gap" thing is hitting me upside the head...I have been waiting for it to fill...so that I can jump back in...but as Maumee said if it closes above .225...then I guess it's not a concern...and if it does that then I will have missed the boat...Decisions.... decisions


 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
The hell with GFCI guys (and 10) get your cash behind this horse...lol
Just kidding, good luck.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha doni... tell this horse to dip:D
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
The hell with GFCI guys (and 10) get your cash behind this horse...lol
Just kidding, good luck.

LOL..what did I do? I'm still trying...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey Doniboy, have you heard anything from JJ.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Nothing yet Cassity. But that HOD of .20 is getting hit. Lets break this bad boy!!
 
Posted by charlatan on :
 
Hi guys, I'm an Ihub poster and one of the assistant mods for the new CVSU board. Here some DD for you guys to look over. Personaly I think the AISS venture will be much larger than the Amazon project. The main points of intrest are the people involved... it's adds alot of integrity to the new Corporation..


http://www.state.ga.us/cgi-bin/pub/corp/corpsearch?corpid=0558041

CVSU joint venture AISS


Conversion Solutions, Inc. and Georgia Aerospace Systems Announces Formation of New Corporation

KENNESAW, Ga., Aug. 31 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC: CVSU) and Georgia Aerospace Systems (GAS), announces that the companies have entered into an agreement to form a new company called American International Smart Structures, Inc. (AISS, a Georgia Corporation).

'The formation of American International Smart Structures is just a sample of the vision of management from Georgia Aerospace and CVSU and we are very pleased to be participating. The contributed defense contract by Georgia Aerospace to AISS will ensure the profitability and success of this venture,' stated Rufus Paul Harris, CEO, CVSU.

Ben Stanley, COO, CVSU stated, 'This Venture is only the first of many that we are currently reviewing that will greatly enhance our shareholders value, help stimulate the economy by providing jobs to Americans and provide advanced security to America.'

'Georgia Aerospace is excited about the 40% equity position of Conversion Solutions in this venture. The great leadership at Conversion will bring excellent financial credentials with their Wall Street knowledge and exposure to the new entity AISS,' stated Dr. Thomas Mensah, inventor, CEO and Founder of Georgia Aerospace Systems.

'The investment dollars that this equity brings will allow AISS to grow organically as well as through acquisitions to help us explore tremendous opportunities in advanced composite structures for aircraft and marine applications as well as homeland security. The infusion of capital will allow us to execute our business plan flawlessly.' Dr. Mensah continued, 'In addition to the traditional areas as detailed in our business, we will be looking to expand into novel areas like advanced Nanotube composite structure manufacturing. The company will be providing contracted engineering services to the Department of Defense as well as embedded sensors for Homeland Security.'

'The Pentagon is implementing Network Centric Operations (NCO) which involves linking all means of command, control, communications, computers, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance. Georgia Aerospace Systems and American International Smart Structures are postured to become a major technology provider in Network Centric Operations with products like embedded sensors. The technology will be compatible with the Global Information Grid to provide real time information to the war fighter,' stated Major General John Phillips, head of Defense markets for Georgia Aerospace Systems.


Georgia Aerospace sub contractor for MTC

http://fast.hill.af.mil/primes_subcontractors.html click on "FAST MTC subcontractors"

http://www.modtechcorp.com/ Ticker symbol MTCT ( NASDAQ )

CURRENT BOARD OF DIRECTORS

GENERAL JAMES KLUGH (U.S. ARMY, RETIRED), BOARD MEMBER. General Klugh is Vice President of Dimensions International, a computer systems company in Fairfax, Virginia. General Klugh served as Chief Operating Officer of ESET until 2000. Under his leadership, ESET achieved success across the spectrum of information technology, distance learning, syllogistics, and telecom­munications. Before ESET, he served in the Pentagon as Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Logistics. General Klugh is the Vice Chairman of the Veterans Development Board, where he serves alongside Donald Rumsfield, the current Secretary of Defense. General Klugh previously managed the Army’s Logistics Management College were he supervised the development of 120,000 civilian and military personnel.


DR. THOMAS MENSAH, PRESIDENT AND CEO. Dr. Mensah is a recognized leader in the development of advanced composite materi­als and "smart" structures. One of the original innovators of RTM technology for the F/R-22. Dr. Mensah led the team that was selected in the Mentor-Protege program by Lockheed Martin and the Pentagon. Dr. Mensah has held high-level engineering positions with Corning Glass Works, where he built the fastest fiber optics draw and coating process and AT&T Bell Laboratories, where he developed fiber optic reels used in guided missile systems. Dr. Mensah founded the Georgia firm, Supercond Technology, which assisted in the development of advanced structural materials for supersonic fighter aircraft. Dr. Mensah has worked on special­ized projects for NASA (superconductors for space communications), the U.S. Army (smart munitions), and the U.S. Department of Energy (fiber optics sensors for highway traffic monitoring). Dr. Mensah holds 7 patents on fiber optics technology, including 3 on guided missile technology. Dr. Mensah has played a key role in the proliferation of cost-effective fiber optics technology in both civilian and military applications. He has also served on the MIT advisory board in chemical engineering. Dr. Mensah holds degrees from Montpelier University and Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Press Secretary


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For Immediate Release December 18, 2000
PRESIDENT CLINTON NAMES JAMES R. KLUGH TO THE NATIONAL VETERANS BUSINESS

DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION

President Clinton today announced his intent to appoint Major General James R. Klugh U.S.A. (Ret.) to serve as a member of the National Veterans Business Development Corporation.

Major General James Klugh, of Fairfax Station, Virginia, is President of Executive Security and Engineering Technologies, Inc. (ESET). Under his leadership, ESET has achieved success across the spectrum of information technology, distance learning, telelogistics, and telecommunications. Previously, Major General Klugh was Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Logistics, the senior logistics policy and management position in the Department of Defense. Major General Klugh served over 30 years in the military, where he managed the U.S. Army's Chemical, Research, Engineering, and Development Laboratories, which are responsible for chemical and biological defense systems. He also managed the Army Logistics Management College, where he developed curricula and methods to educate the Military Department's logistics research and development engineering candidates. During his military career, General Klugh also was responsible for staff supervision, direction and policy formulation for personnel management, training, and education, career management and development, and law enforcement and security for 10,000 military and 110,000 civilian personnel. He also managed the coordination, accessions, distribution and professional development of 110,000 U.S. Army military officers and warrant officers.

Major General Klugh received his B.S. in Chemistry from South Carolina State University and his M.S. in Public Administration from Shippensburg State College.

30-30-30

http://clinton6.nara.gov/2000/12/2000-12-18-klugh-named-to-national-veterans-bus iness-development.ht....


AEROSPACE COMPANY TO HIRE 200 IN HOUSTON
March 1, 2002
Originally published in The Telegraph
Aircraft parts maker planning to open Warner Robins plant.

WARNER ROBINS — An Atlanta aerospace company announced plans Thursday to open an aircraft parts manufacturing plant here and hire 200 people within six months to a year.

The president of Georgia Aerospace Manufacturing said the company may eventually expand to several locations in Middle Georgia and employ about 1,000 people.

Company President and CEO Thomas Mensah told Houston County leaders that he hopes to buy a 12-year-old, 50,000-square-foot empty building on Osigian Boulevard in the next two months and begin renovations.

The plant would make composite parts for the F-22 Raptor and F-35 Joint Strike Fighter aircraft, he said. The F-22 is built by Lockheed Martin Corp. in Marietta, and the F-35 is being developed by that company.

Some work at the facility, Mensah said, would be classified and require tight security.

Lockheed Martin was selected last October by the Defense Department for the $200 billion F-35 contract, which could lead to manufacturing 3,000 of the supersonic fighter jets.

A spokesman for Lockheed Martin said Georgia Aerospace Manufacturing is not a listed contractor for the F-22 or F-35 projects but may be doing the work for one of Lockheed Martin's subcontractors.

Mensah said his company was founded in 1992 and worked with Lockheed Martin on development of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

He said the firm chose Warner Robins because Robins Air Force Base and surrounding defense contractors have created a pool of workers who already know about aircraft parts.

"We want to do the bulk of the work here," he said. "You don't have time to train somebody for a year."

He announced the company's plans during a monthly meeting of the Houston County Development Authority.

The authority then approved a resolution agreeing to issue $4 million in industrial revenue bonds for. Georgia Aerospace Manufacturing to buy and renovate the building and purchase equipment.

The deal is subject to the company securing financing and meeting various requirements for the bond issue, according to county officials.

Draper Watson, chairman of the development authority, said the group has been dealing with Mensah for about 30 days, which is short notice for a project of this magnitude.

Watson said he's glad a buyer has been found for the Osigian Boulevard building, which has been vacant since last July when Lithonia Lighting moved its operations to Cochran. I t was built in 1990 as a speculative building in the authority's Advanced Technology Park. It is owned jointly by the city of Warner Robins, the county development authority and the Warner Robins Area Chamber of Commerce.

"We didn't think we'd ever get it for industrial use again," Watson said.

And the county may be able to sell Mensah more buildings down the road.

Mensah said his company will probably expand in coming years, and the 50,000-square-foot Osigian building will be too small.
He said the group could buy the county's 150,000-square-foot speculative building in Perry or some other Middle Georgia facility.
Mensah, a native of Ghana, Africa, has seven U.S. and international patents for fiber optics materials used for missiles and other military hardware. He said the company could expand in Middle Georgia to build missiles or other military equipment.
He said the Georgia Aerospace Manufacturing plant is likely to attract other companies that build composite materials for aircraft.

"Middle Georgia is going to be the center for the next generation of composites," Mensah said.

Meanwhile, many Houston leaders left the development authority meeting beaming about the possibility of new jobs.

County leaders just learned in November that airplane parts maker Vought Aircraft Industries will close its Perry plant later this year and move or eliminate 365 jobs.

Warner Robins chamber President Michele Callahari said the organization is thrilled about the announcement.

“We're particularly excited about the addition of jobs," she said. "It seems like it’s a perfect fit."

For more information contact Pat Topping with Macon Economic Development Commission

478-621-2030
P.O. Box 169
Macon, Georgia 31202

http://www.maconworks.com/documents-links/nra_aerospace-company-to-hire-200-in-h ouston.asp
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
that HOD of .20 is getting hit. Lets break this bad boy!!

indeed!
Does anyone know where you can find the volume of the previous trading days? thank you!
As for JJ, I hope he keeps us updated!!! He was supposed to call Rufus, well he left a message on his answering machine hoping Rufus would call him back, so I hope he does!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doniboy:
[QB] Well, I do trust Maumee's chart talents, but he does admit himself that there is at least one contingency where this gap will not fill (the .225 thing). Either way good luck 10.

Dummy!!! DON"T TRUST ME!!!!LOL I have a hard enough time findin my own azz without a map!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
charlatan that's some rather "old news"...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
"Does anyone know where you can find the volume of the previous trading days? thank you!"
_______________________________________________________________

Jump on big charts.com... Pullup a daily chart.... put the do-hickey on any day and it will show ya the volume for that day...

If you don' have any other means.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
lol river rat...


Charlatan, thanks for the update, and thanks for the great job you have been doing over at Ihub. You may want to change your screenname though. Who can trust a Charlatan????
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hey maumee... if i'm looking at the chart correct, that gap is real small correct?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Hey 10!!! Ww
Whats up!!

I'm still not sure you missed the boat on anything...

If it does blow up at 225.....next stop is around .35 for a flip...

will monitor and post when I can...
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
anyone seen HAL today?? omfg...
 
Posted by charlatan on :
 
I apologise then.. hadn't seen the info in the thread. I can tell you that there is more to this. I will also tell you this is bigger than most people know.

If there are any ex-military or military members serving and know what SIPPRnet is. If you have clearance just a hint... use Google SIPPR. Currently there are several pages listing MTC and it's various projects.. thats all I will say [Wink]
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
"Does anyone know where you can find the volume of the previous trading days? thank you!"
_______________________________________________________________

Jump on big charts.com... Pullup a daily chart.... put the do-hickey on any day and it will show ya the volume for that day...

If you don' have any other means.

... ooookay why didnt I think of that first [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Break on through to the other side!!!!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks Maumee...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
bump in case you didn't see it maumee...

quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
hey maumee... if i'm looking at the chart correct, that gap is real small correct?


 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
looking good this PM
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
Doniboy - I'm still here, also.

Besides what has been posted already, has anyone else had an opportunity to call in to CVSU and get clarification on the $15 bit?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Lookin' strong ...!!!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
looks like she may make a move
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Big buys at the ask....nice [Smile]
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
ok, I just called mr.Haris and I asked a few questions.
1) I am a share holder of FHAL and do I get the $15 per share merger deal. He said yes

2)I asked what the float was. He said between 16-18 mill.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Did you want to call him and tell him to PR that NOONE has any clue about that I am certain.
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
I'm new to calling the company becuase I still am a newb so my mind went blank when it came to the hard questions that everyone needs answers too.

I should right them down next time I call.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
OK that is crazy...That can't be right...It's the exact opposite of the 8-K..If it is true I may have a mild cardiac episode. If its true people should sell their homes and put the cash in. How could you beat a 7500% increase?
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockstar:
ok, I just called mr.Haris and I asked a few questions.
1) I am a share holder of FHAL and do I get the $15 per share merger deal. He said yes

2)I asked what the float was. He said between 16-18 mill.

That's quite a statement. He said you'll get $15 per share of FHAL you own? Doubt he said it for real. Someone should call to confirm.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
That's it! I'm calling right now. Can't stand it anymore. Have to find out for myself. I'll let you know if you want. I don't want any sh!t from anyone regardless of what he says.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Just post what he says cassity. You're the phone man [Smile]

[ July 17, 2006, 15:18: Message edited by: Doniboy ]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
if that is true, good lord they better PR that, this whole deal has alot of people in the dark
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
That's it! I'm calling right now. Can't stand it anymore. Have to find out for myself. I'll let you know if you want. I don't want any sh!t from anyone regardless of what he says.

And I can't wait to hear your confirmation post LOL [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
That "BAT" is hittin' me harder!! ARGH! Movin' nice!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey I need a short list of other mind boggling questions to ask. Please post them RIGHT NOW and I'll right them down and call. HURRY!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
OK that is crazy...That can't be right...It's the exact opposite of the 8-K..If it is true I may have a mild cardiac episode. If its true people should sell their homes and put the cash in. How could you beat a 7500% increase?

I'm with Doniboy. There has to be something we're missing. I know there was a previous post indicating that Harris had supposedly indicated they had cash on hand to make that happen. Is getting on the OTC that difficult that CVSU would acquire FHAL to obtain it and divy up the cash amongst more shareholders? If so, then fine - just seems hard to believe especially since we'd all be the recipient of the greatest gift of our lives (and most other people's lives, also).
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
That's it! I'm calling right now. Can't stand it anymore. Have to find out for myself. I'll let you know if you want. I don't want any sh!t from anyone regardless of what he says.

You go Cassity!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
The $15 remarks in the 8k mean something different to me but maybe im clueless. It would appear that they will pay FHAL shareholders the stock value of what they hold to a MAXIMUM of $15 a share because more than that would be over their own company "value". Of course they know its not going to spike to $15 but it makes sense to cover their own butts if some miracle made it happen. I have read that document over and over (much like everyone else) and this is the only thing that makes sense in my head. Otherwise yes, we would all be buying new houses and ferraris when this is over.....and im not out shopping I can assure you. [Smile]
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
I made sure I said I was a share holder in FHAL and if I would be getting the $15 per share. He said yes.

I heard that they were buying the stock back agressively. So that may be why the float is so low.

Oh, btw, he didn't sound like the happiest man when I brought up the $15 thing. I'm sure he has heard it asked a million times. He also said that everything was in the 8k. This all seems to good to be true....I hope it is though.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Hey I need a short list of other mind boggling questions to ask. Please post them RIGHT NOW and I'll right them down and call. HURRY!

I'd like to know why FHAL? What is the real reason for the merger? Is it so they could get off the pink sheets? Is it that simple? Was it that important to take on more outstanding shares?
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
0.218 YEEEEEHAAAAAA OLE OLE hahaha
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
1)Ask if they are going to Pr any of the info that he has told you.

2)How is the merger going?
3) Does he forsee any problems
4) what is the current expected time frame for the things to be completed?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Just got home......................what's shakin' ?

Lookin' pretty good, here...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Time's up! I'm callin, let ya know soon!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
bump in case you didn't see it maumee...

quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
hey maumee... if i'm looking at the chart correct, that gap is real small correct?


Sorry!!!

Got more goin on in my world than I want at this moment...

Gap is only 1/2 penny big....135 - .14 Yhis could very well sell off EOD to fill or set up to fillin the morning.....I'm just vsayen it could..

If it breaks up....Minor resistance at .35 after that very little significant resistance till .62
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Look slike some flippers takin profits...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
ok... thats what i got maumee...

i think catia is right... i think it's just covering up to 15... i don't think it is 15 a share. i wish tho, cuz... well, i think i'd go all in and retire;)
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
EOD or not its holding strong. I cant believe how stable it is right now. Id love to take a bit of profit and buy into something at its bottom but its so hard to pull the trigger!!!
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
I see that other boards are getting reposts of peoples calls, including my post. But they aren't believing and just righting it of as a pumper. I just want to make it clear that I hardly ever post. When I do it has nothing to do with getting other people to buy.

Again, I just want to make it clear that I am not telling lies or pumping. I'm just informing everyone while I'm trying to figure this out just like everyone else.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
We are all a bit baffled and "hyped" right now Stockstar. People are going to over react to things that shock them. I wouldnt sweat it. I wont speak for everyone here but i definately didnt get that feel from your posts. [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Stockstar...not to worry...we believe you! Thanks..
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
ok cool [Smile]
Just wanted to set things straight.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
HOLY SHEEEEEEET! It is true. I just got off the phone. 10 to answer your questions. Merger is already complete. All they have to do is file a 10k audited finacials, and a S-4 for CVSU's shares. He put me on hold at the beginning of the phone call and when he came back, I said, "I'm sure you've already been asked this a hundred times today". He interupted and said, "What the $15". I said exactly. I said how is that possible, he said it was all in the 8-k and I mentioned there has been several interpretations of it. I asked if they would be PRing any of this info and he said he would towards the end of the 15 days of the 8-k filing. No definite dates, but I can hardly type because I'm so shocked. Anyways, that's it. Hope it helps, but I know ya'll goin be saying yeah-right. Oh well, call yourself.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
HOLY SHEEEEEEET! It is true. I just got off the phone. 10 to answer your questions. Merger is already complete. All they have to do is file a 10k audited finacials, and a S-4 for CVSU's shares. He put me on hold at the beginning of the phone call and when he came back, I said, "I'm sure you've already been asked this a hundred times today". He interupted and said, "What the $15". I said exactly. I said how is that possible, he said it was all in the 8-k and I mentioned there has been several interpretations of it. I asked if they would be PRing any of this info and he said he would towards the end of the 15 days of the 8-k filing. No definite dates, but I can hardly type because I'm so shocked. Anyways, that's it. Hope it helps, but I know ya'll goin be saying yeah-right. Oh well, call yourself.

Great job Cassity! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Wink]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Hmmm, they wouldnt be telling us this so no one sells would they? How come my paranoia radar is kicking in based on what Cassity just relayed to us. First of all, thanks to all that have called. But, as everyone has said something is just eerie about these facts.

Well, anyway, it worked on me. Ive cancelled all open orders regarding FHAL and im holding strong. Paranoid, nervous, unsettled and now completely in for the haul. [Confused]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
OMG, unbelievable. Id like to see the PR sooner than that though! I might vomit if it says "$15 per share" in that PR.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
wow, that phone call seemed to do the right thing.. up we go
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Hmmm, they wouldnt be telling us this so no one sells would they? How come my paranoia radar is kicking in based on what Cassity just relayed to us. First of all, thanks to all that have called. But, as everyone has said something is just eerie about these facts.

Well, anyway, it worked on me. Ive cancelled all open orders regarding FHAL and im holding strong. Paranoid, nervous, unsettled and now completely in for the haul. [Confused]

I wasn't ever very nervous about this(maybe I'm stupid), call them yourself, I think if more people call with other questions, it might help clear up a lot of stuff. JMO
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Might happen a little sooner if we let the man get some work done!!

I would really like to see another penny outta this to get it on some support....

Slammin hard against resistance at this time...needs a push...IMO
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I think I just had a mild orgasm.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
I hope cass is right about the 15 bucks though i would be thrilled with 1/10th of that price! can we say 1.50!! bring it on baby!!!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
I'm still a little iffy with this $15 per share...so your telling me for those who called the CEO himself said that its a 1:1 exchange and that he is going to buy everyone's shares here for $15 a piece and open up the market at $15 because he bought us all out?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I think I just had a mild orgasm.

LMAO!
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
.25 yeah baby
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Im not doubting you Cassity and im glad you called AND im glad you made him answer specifically. Believe me, its not you im paranoid about. Its the way the 8k is written. Its just so confusing now and im scared to sell a few shares. haha, this is too much pressure....id rather be working.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Holy SHEEEEEEEEET....new HOD baby!!!!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
feets dont fail me now! run baby run!!!
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
Big wall at .25
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
I knew i should have doubled down at .14
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GlassCrasher:
Big wall at .25

maybe! but once it falls .30 will come in a snap!! .26 comming up fast!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
that .25 wall is crumbling
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
I'm still a little iffy with this $15 per share...so your telling me for those who called the CEO himself said that its a 1:1 exchange and that he is going to buy everyone's shares here for $15 a piece and open up the market at $15 because he bought us all out?

This whole $15 dollar thing is not realistic....Stay focused...Why would anyone offer anything that would more than likely bankrupt them...Sumthin missing!!!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
That's what I'm saying...everyone is saying they called in and it's true..but realistically it can not be.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
.26!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
wall gone
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
here we go now!!! yes EVEN finally!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
hang on to ur hats
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
this is exploding!! and the volume is so low!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
OK GANG !! I Think we can forget about that gap today!!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

10 are you playen??
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
.30 comming up in a flash!!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
well, maybe the float is much smaller than we think.. so 15 may be doable.. we should do a share count, at least for ppl here.. could someone please keep record, i'll start
i sold 1/3 of my position last week, kicking myself.. and i have 156,500 shares left
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yes...but only with half...ARGH!!!!!!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
shake it
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
eod rush has hit..hopefully it stays up above .26 before the bell rings
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
MM panic now, daytrader sales too.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
so no one wants to do a share count?
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
That's what I'm saying...everyone is saying they called in and it's true..but realistically it can not be.

That or there's some good stuff we don't know about yet (or im too optimistic haha)
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
so no one wants to do a share count?

not a good idea
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
20k here!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
lostone 156,500
cassity 20,000
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
Holy crap buying pressue is big on this one

someone update me. Just got off the road from doing security
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
c'mon...move this puppy!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
26 getting nailed...let it run boys...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
HOD at 3:45??????? sweeeeeet...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
eod rush has hit..hopefully it stays up above .26 before the bell rings

I ust spotted some resistance at 027...minor but it was enough to stop the run....a close above that would be better..

aIs ther any real good reason this is running today???Makes me nervouse when MM's let sumthin go on such low volume...

Bait and switch lingers in my head..

Holdin with caution!!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I like your suspicious nature Maumee, but I am enjoying today a lot so far.
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
eod rush has hit..hopefully it stays up above .26 before the bell rings

I ust spotted some resistance at 027...minor but it was enough to stop the run....a close above that would be better..

aIs ther any real good reason this is running today???Makes me nervouse when MM's let sumthin go on such low volume...


Bait and switch lingers in my head..

Holdin with caution!!!

Me too...I bailed at .26
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I"M NOT BIOTCHEN EITHER!!!!LOL
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
.27 getting nailed
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
a couple more .27 buys and we go to .28! ( spoke to soon just printed .28!! )
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
.28 WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
.28 lets see if it closes!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
C'mon...give us .28!
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
Damn the MM's definitely know something we don't. Or maybe they're playing the rumor. Either way they're making a lot of money pushing this up since last week.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
How come none of the old timers ever call the company? Tex, call-um-buddy! I'm sure you have much better questions than me. [Wink]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
This is good....Needs to hold here!!
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
So much buying at so late in the day...WTF!!!!!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
yes, very good, gap for sure
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
still time for .29!!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
If the bell rang right now I'd be a happy guy.
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
NITE is such a prick
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
still time for .29!!!

Five minutes to go lets see. just freed up some more cash to put into this bad boy
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
That minor suppor at .27 just got a little stronger.....still holding
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hustla:
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
still time for .29!!!

Five minutes to go lets see. just freed up some more cash to put into this bad boy
carefull!!
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
If the bell rang right now I'd be a happy guy.

RING RING RING CLAP CLAP CLAP
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Doniboy,

We chased and bought at about the same pps. So, whither thou goest, I will go.

Jo
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
BLASTARDS!!!!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
this is a STRONG close!! from .16 to .26! I WILL TAKE IT!!!!! TYVM!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Grrrr, well i managed some new gray hairs today. Heart rate is up, staying late at work....ahhh but a nice end to the day
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Nice day folks, I'll be chatting with you in the PM. Peace, I'm out!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Too much pressure on me dude. Remember, I rode this down in the first place [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Doniboy,

We chased and bought at about the same pps. So, whither thou goest, I will go.

Jo


 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
You'd wonder though, if $15 is true wouldnt insiders have bought the entire float?? I sold at 0.265, once official confirmation with numbers is out I'm buying LOTS
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I love you guys.....LOL

What a day baby...
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Ya-HOO!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I love you guys.....LOL

What a day baby...

Sounds like an old Bud Lite commercial!!!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
explain to me how it is possible we get 15 dollars per share and we are trading now at 25 cents????? am i missing something?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
doniboy wrote:
quote:
Too much pressure on me dude. Remember, I rode this down in the first place
I know, cause I was right there with you. LOL! So, I think both of us need another tick or two to get in the green, right? I bought at .265 last go around.

Jo
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *********06:
explain to me how it is possible we get 15 dollars per share and we are trading now at 25 cents????? am i missing something?

still have 12 or 15 days left? who knows where the price will end up! way over a buck! if this IS true the real buying might not happen till it breaks over a buck or two! who knows, i suppose ANYTHING is possible. hell a fifteen dollar stock selling for 3 or 4 bucks is still a huge bargain!
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
I think 15 bucks will be a minimum, big corp. could go much higher.... dunno.....
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
lol ok i am in the stock market for 9 years but this story is the most crazy i have ever heard...if it happens it will be the 8th world wonder i think ;=)
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I will not be here tomorrow, now I am afraid. [Smile]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
well, they did say up to.. no guarantee $15, just up to rite?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *********06:
explain to me how it is possible we get 15 dollars per share and we are trading now at 25 cents????? am i missing something?

Yes!!! Cognative thinking if you believe it!!!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Ive ridden this thing up from .08 to .35 and back down to .16 (yes i know HUGE flipper there i missed)

If that isnt faith in a penny i dont know what is. I cant help but plan for at least a little sell off soon to get some cash back in my account but there is no way i could sell big right now. And boy do i ever want to!!! %400 is nothing to sneeze at.....but but but im chicken. [Smile]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Well I just got to work, I figured more people would be tearing me to pieces by now. I would like to know how many people on this board have called the company? Rufus is very friendly, and I'm sure very busy, but someone with a lot of credablity should call. Someone with knowledge of reading 8-k's, so they can discuss how this will all work. He told me the $15 was true and it was in the 8k, but I can't even begin to discuss the 8k, because I can hardly understand any of it. All I know is what he said and as tempting as it was to sell today, I won't be going anywhere until, ALL the news is out. I think the missing pieces of the puzzle will be told in upcoming PR's(from my phone call). That would be my opinion, so PLEASE, PLEASE someone else call and confirm(I'm very confident in what you'll be told).
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Ive ridden this thing up from .08 to .35 and back down to .16 (yes i know HUGE flipper there i missed)

If that isnt faith in a penny i dont know what is. I cant help but plan for at least a little sell off soon to get some cash back in my account but there is no way i could sell big right now. And boy do i ever want to!!! %400 is nothing to sneeze at.....but but but im chicken. [Smile]

Chickens soetimes get Plucked???

XKEM Did it to many...400% is good...You will have another shot at this if it is what they say it is.....Protect your working capital...

GL
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea i was in there (xkem) with ya Rat, and i was plucked. But, i did walk away in the green and dumped all of it into FHAL, increasing my bottom line by another 3000 shares or so.

Im mostly afraid to flip for two reasons. Of course the obvious that it continues to climb. But the other is what if they come out next week and say "Everyone holding shares dated July 17 will be entitled to yada yada yada" and here i am with tons of shares dated July 18 or whatever. That seems to add to the stress of all this.

Your advice is sound however, i intend to at least take my initial investment VERY soon. Then, honestly, i might put it back into xkem seeing that its at the bottom. [Smile]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I read this on IHUB. Made more sense to me than anything else. I wish I would have asked him myself. Oh well maybe tomorrow.

Posted by: amazongold
In reply to: None Date:7/17/2006 5:36:36 PM
Post #of 1975

I spoke to Rufus earlier today and was told kinda the same stuff as the previous investor.He indicated they have almost bought out the entire float and there will be no problem buying out the remainer for the price noted in 8K.I asked if they were buying out the float why didnt the price increase and he stated because companies buy back at the bid.Float according to him about 5 million at the most.Good luck all.Hope this holds true.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Im not familiar with how splits work but would it be in their interest to reverse split the value up to the $15 range at merger time and kick off the new symbol in that price range? Major newbie question there but im still hesitant to think im going to be semi rich off of my first real short term investment.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I would be terrified of a split if he would not have came right out and said "there will be no split's at this time" on radio last week. Just for those who weren't able to listen.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
I would be terrified of a split if he would not have came right out and said "there will be no split's at this time" on radio last week. Just for those who weren't able to listen.

Oh yea, i forgot about that comment! Thanks for the reminder...and thanks for taking away yet another possible explaination! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
"why didnt the price increase and he stated because companies buy back at the bid."
hmmm, may show my ignorance, here--but I'd really, really like to know how that works...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Sorry Tex, I was just posting what someone else wrote. I was hoping you could tell us, how it would work. I value your input. Thanks
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Sorry Tex, I was just posting what someone else wrote. I was hoping you could tell us, how it would work. I value your input. Thanks

no prob, cassity...that's exactly why we provide attribution...

Obviously, a company can have an MM working for them...so maybe it's that simple...
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
Just got off the phone with rufous the dufous.. We are getting $21 a share as it stands right now... looks like management has finally decided to give us the best deal for buying early.. he also said that if the current pps of 0.265 doubles and he gets rid of his shares, he would offer $42 a share for all the remaining shareholders!!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] i am not selling my shares for anything less than $42 a share...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
Just got off the phone with rufous the dufous.. We are getting $21 a share as it stands right now... looks like management has finally decided to give us the best deal for buying early.. he also said that if the current pps of 0.265 doubles and he gets rid of his shares, he would offer $42 a share for all the remaining shareholders!!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] i am not selling my shares for anything less than $42 a share...

Heh, that sounds like it came from IHUB. [Smile]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
Just got off the phone with rufous the dufous.. We are getting $21 a share as it stands right now... looks like management has finally decided to give us the best deal for buying early.. he also said that if the current pps of 0.265 doubles and he gets rid of his shares, he would offer $42 a share for all the remaining shareholders!!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] i am not selling my shares for anything less than $42 a share...

r-m,

you buy that Koo Aid by the tanker?

 -
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Ya know the BIG question here is, IF after the merger, FHAL is worth anything above what we are seeing today, how fast will it drop due to sells? No matter what we get for this merger i expect serious profit taking. Will Etrade be right on top of the game and allow me instant access to the new shares or will i have a delay? I see a high profit here for the current holders of FHAL but I can see a potential problem at the moment of the ticker change.

Alas, i intend to call Etrade tomorrow and discuss this with them. I will also ask to speak with a broker and see if there is any insight to this 8k we are all bedazzled by. This is what we pay these companies for right? I will see what i can learn in that avenue and post my results.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:

Heh, that sounds like it came from IHUB. [Smile]
hehe..not from ihub.. from roufus's dog.. [Smile] ..
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Tex the reason I posted, was a lot of people made the comment that this was moving a lot on low volume. Maybe them buying the float, causes it to move more quckly. Dunno for sure, JMO.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:


you buy that Koo Aid by the tanker?
 -

lollll... all wid fhal money [Big Grin]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
this is getting out of hand... [Wink]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:

Heh, that sounds like it came from IHUB. [Smile]
hehe..not from ihub.. from roufus's dog.. [Smile] ..
Grrr RM, you silly silly man. You forgot something if you were speaking with the dog. A $7 stock is only valued at $1 in dog money. Everyone knows that! [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:

Heh, that sounds like it came from IHUB. [Smile]
hehe..not from ihub.. from roufus's dog.. [Smile] ..
Grrr RM, you silly silly man. You forgot something if you were speaking with the dog. A $1 stock is valued at $7 in dog money. Everyone knows that! [Smile]
Oops i replied with quote to my own post instead of edit. Its been a long day [Frown]
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
from ihub, might be a basher, does anyone know this guy?

Posted by: haley8484
In reply to: JJSeabrook who wrote msg# 1996

Oh my God, no!!!! I just called and finally got through to Rufus. I asked him if it was true that we were getting $15 a share and he said "yes". I nearly pissed myself! But just as i was about to get some tissues, he added, "if you're a CVSU shareholder."

I told him I owned FHAL and he said that if that's the case, then there is NO increase in share price!!! In fact, they are planning a reverse split for the FHAL shares to get them up to $15, so that they match the value of the existing CVSU shares!!!!

Can you believe this ****? Oh my God, what are we going to do?!!!!"

 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Break out the f-ing waders!!!! This is the kinda CHIT that ruins a stock.....It will be good for a flip or two however....

GL

Good nite..
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
from ihub, might be a basher, does anyone know this guy?

Posted by: haley8484
In reply to: JJSeabrook who wrote msg# 1996

Oh my God, no!!!! I just called and finally got through to Rufus. I asked him if it was true that we were getting $15 a share and he said "yes". I nearly pissed myself! But just as i was about to get some tissues, he added, "if you're a CVSU shareholder."

I told him I owned FHAL and he said that if that's the case, then there is NO increase in share price!!! In fact, they are planning a reverse split for the FHAL shares to get them up to $15, so that they match the value of the existing CVSU shares!!!!

Can you believe this ****? Oh my God, what are we going to do?!!!!"

Crap, unfortunately this looks to be the most likely scenario. For once it kinda makes sense. Reverse split the FHAL to match the more valuable ticker and then combine them. It makes perfect sense to me. I dont think it will HURT us as FHAL holders but it does put a pinch on that house and ferrari.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
from ihub, might be a basher, does anyone know this guy?

Posted by: haley8484
In reply to: JJSeabrook who wrote msg# 1996

Oh my God, no!!!! I just called and finally got through to Rufus. I asked him if it was true that we were getting $15 a share and he said "yes". I nearly pissed myself! But just as i was about to get some tissues, he added, "if you're a CVSU shareholder."

I told him I owned FHAL and he said that if that's the case, then there is NO increase in share price!!! In fact, they are planning a reverse split for the FHAL shares to get them up to $15, so that they match the value of the existing CVSU shares!!!!

Can you believe this ****? Oh my God, what are we going to do?!!!!"

This is a joke on HSM, nice repost though
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
Im sorry I didnt mean to scare anyone, just wanted to know if this guy can be trusted, if anyone knows him (is he a famous Ihubber, etc). I sold all shares at 0.265 today but I'll buy 1000 shares in a dip tomorrow, lottery ticket lol [Smile]
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Basher - read some of his other posts.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Ya know, i may be new at this so i shouldnt take offense but this crap irritates me. A gem from HSM. For what its worth, you all at Allstocks have left me in nothing but green since i started short terms just a few months ago. Grr, irritated.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amphibithen
man, ihub just gets worse and worse. phil you said you were part of them right? tell them they are all idiots and unregister from them. or unregister from here


They arent nearly as bad as allstocks. Now that is the forum for retard traders.

[ July 17, 2006, 19:16: Message edited by: CatiaEngineer ]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
From HSM. Somewhat convincing this time.

Today, 06:49 PM #726
Amphibithen
HSM Addict




Join Date: May 2006
Location: Elk Grove, California
Posts: 1,052 talked to rufus, finally got through, it was hard to type as fast as he was talking because of the corporate mumbo jumbo, i tried to copy the main phrases in there at the beginning and then got lost cuz i was asking him to go over a few things again.

the pps change will happen upon completion of the filing, f4 registration under the merger
affect of registration and resulting decision of merger are the share as of the date will either be purchased at 15/share from shareholders, pps will be reset at 15 or will (kinda got lost here, when i asked for him to repeat he said it says it right in the 8k, guys remember where that abc $15 thing was? someone post that please over)
reason why:
CVSU shares are at like $30 (I think he said) and the CVSU shareholders are very mad that they are even going as low as $15. one of the 3 options from the 8k are going to be taken into action. CVSU shares are not released into the market yet, and they have to wait until the FHAL changes to CVSU. there will be NO HOLD of trading (oh ****, i just reliazed i forgot to ask him about the record date ****) and the date as i have on the title is correct, the 28th. on the 28th, the FHAL shares will turn into CVSU shares, and thus dillute the previous FHAL shares with the CVSU shares a little bit.
i specifically asked him why they would change the pps so drastically and like he said, the cvsu shareholders were actually going down and pissed about the drop in pps (which is why they were trying to buy back the cvsu shares from shareholders i think, to have them come back into the cvsu market after the change so they dont destroy their shareholder base, but im guessing on why they tried to buy back didnt ask him). he also said that they are in the business to make money, and to do that they are going to have to start at a respectable PPS.

DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT buy based on what i am saying here. HE COULD BE, im NOT saying he is but COULD BE as you all said, a scammer and tricking us into buying in and then he leaves the country but that is very doubtful IMO.

I SUGGEST you call him, he is VERY intelligent he throwing my brain into a maze with financial terms and rules. PLEASE call him.

[ July 17, 2006, 19:16: Message edited by: CatiaEngineer ]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Ya know the BIG question here is, IF after the merger, FHAL is worth anything above what we are seeing today, how fast will it drop due to sells? No matter what we get for this merger i expect serious profit taking. Will Etrade be right on top of the game and allow me instant access to the new shares or will i have a delay? I see a high profit here for the current holders of FHAL but I can see a potential problem at the moment of the ticker change.

Alas, i intend to call Etrade tomorrow and discuss this with them. I will also ask to speak with a broker and see if there is any insight to this 8k we are all bedazzled by. This is what we pay these companies for right? I will see what i can learn in that avenue and post my results.

no...discount, online brokers? you're paying for access to trading platform
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Ya know the BIG question here is, IF after the merger, FHAL is worth anything above what we are seeing today, how fast will it drop due to sells? No matter what we get for this merger i expect serious profit taking. Will Etrade be right on top of the game and allow me instant access to the new shares or will i have a delay? I see a high profit here for the current holders of FHAL but I can see a potential problem at the moment of the ticker change.

Alas, i intend to call Etrade tomorrow and discuss this with them. I will also ask to speak with a broker and see if there is any insight to this 8k we are all bedazzled by. This is what we pay these companies for right? I will see what i can learn in that avenue and post my results.

no...discount, online brokers? you're paying for access to trading platform
Hmmm, well at the very least couldnt they answer the original question of what control i would have over my shares as they convert to the new ticker? Im a control freak, im not crazy about the idea of having no control over my shares for "some period" of time. Way to go, now you ruined a whole night of sleep for me!! [Razz]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
well, I'm *certainly* not advocating against a call to your brokerage firm...just wouldn't get my hopes up re help, esp. on a penny play...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Ok, understood. I wont get my hopes up but a quick call to see what, if any, help they could offer wouldnt hurt i guess. I need to discuss with them the ticker change and things anyway because i know in one of the documents it suggested getting paper copies. Of course one doc said CVSU people needed them and the other said FHAL. I wouldnt bother calling but this game of playing with $100s is now in the $1000s and the reason i initially got in (log contract) hasnt even happened yet! Im VERY new at this so id like to cover my buns completely if possible.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Tex, as a trusted/honest contributor to this site would you be willing to make a call yourself to put speculation to rest...most on here would "believe" it coming from your mouth..just a thought
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
Tex, as a trusted/honest contributor to this site would you be willing to make a call yourself to put speculation to rest...most on here would "believe" it coming from your mouth..just a thought

Please Tex, PLEASE!!!! No seriously I was going to ask the same ?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I would have asked as well but somehow i think there would be no answer to the call. I would be surprised if he is just sitting around all day taking calls. If it looks like a fish and it smells like a fish....it just stinks.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
amm I just screwed up or can someone direct me to a chart of CVSU....Is this somEthing I should already know???

More than likely it is....

Please forgive me, I've had 6 hrs of sleep over the last three days..
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
Basher - read some of his other posts.

ok thanks!

I gotta say, I really love allstocks. In the months I've been here I've seen nothing but honest people. A big fat thank you to the allstocks posters, I earned some good money while being here [Smile]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
Basher - read some of his other posts.

ok thanks!

I gotta say, I really love allstocks. In the months I've been here I've seen nothing but honest people. A big fat thank you to the allstocks posters, I earned some good money while being here [Smile]

Can I borrow twenty bucks???
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
amm I just screwed up or can someone direct me to a chart of CVSU....Is this somEthing I should already know???

More than likely it is....

Please forgive me, I've had 6 hrs of sleep over the last three days..

I don't think they trade on the free market... CVSU is an invalid symbol it says here (otcbb.com and other quote websites)
 
Posted by The Phat Man on :
 
from IHUB:
JJ & RUFUS Q & A!

I'm copying this off the post on my board so where it shows [color=Green], that is the response to the question. ENJOY BABY!!! ENJOY!!!!


Some confusion on HSM..Is the $15 paid to FHAL...they seem to feel that FHAL is paying CVSU shareholders the $15.00....

[color=Green]SB-2 will be at $15. They wanted to value it at $34 but Rufus didn't want to do that because the SEC would have stalled it. Valued it lower to avoid SEC questions and delay. 11 days til done. 10K filed by end of this week, if goes as planned. [/color]

[color=Green]Option in 8K applies to the reorganized holdings company. Currenlty loading the float * .20. He says the provision in the 8K DOES apply to FHAL shareholders as that provision is for the reorganized company and is NOT talking about the prior CVSU company. [/color]

[color=LimeGreen]Float now between 16-18 Mil. Large number of shorts. [/color]

Is there a limit on the number of shares that can be cashed in for $15? If so, what's the number.

[color=LimeGreen]NO[/color]

Is it necessary for any money to be paid to either side's shareholders at all for the deal to be completed?

NO


In other words, IF that $15 provision applies to current FHAL shareholders, which I don't think it does, and we "can" elect to accept $15 per share for our shares, when will we get the payment?

[color=LimeGreen]IT WILL BE VALUED AT $15 PER THEIR FILING. [/color]

What is the worst case scenario for FHAL shareholders?


[color=LimeGreen]Shares trading at $15. Down side is it gets shorted, but not a concern cause they're buying it as quick as it gets sold and plan to keep doing that. [/color]
What could change the scenario before 15 day period?

[color=LimeGreen]NOTHING, already filed with SEC. Can't undue the merger. It's filed with the Secretary of State in Delaware. It's a done deal. It's set in stone.[/color]

What are the prospects for the new CVSU conglomerate share value? Are they including the proposed value of the Amazon deal into the worth?

[color=LimeGreen]Amazon deal not as it seemed. Contacted ambassador of Brazil and it does hold huge future potential. Logs plus environmental credit...they, FHAL, will be originators and it has good long term potential. Current value not based on Amazon deal. Don't factor anything in that is not closed. Amazon deal not in the figures. Long term potential there but not a real major factor now in any way. FHAL was basically about to go broke. CVSU has never been on the OTC. This was a shortcut to get there. Could be on NASD in 45 days, but may take longer. Company grew MUCH faster than they ever thought it could during the time it took them to get all their SB2 filing together for all the JVs. It totally snowballed far faster than they could ever imagine. [/color]

[color=LimeGreen]THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON SB2 FILING FOR 7 MONTHS SO FAR BECAUSE OF ALL THE SUBSIDIARIES. [/color]


JJ ask him if they are going on a bigger exchange..why at $15 (not saying that would be the case here) would the company be a bulletin board stock??

[color=LimeGreen]45 days is the estimate to go NASD, but no guarantee. Issue that could factor in is the 50,000 shares traded per day. Don't know if it will trade that many shares per day once we open at $15, or so, so that "might" be an issue. [/color]


If FHAL shareholders opt to keep their shares...are there any issues to be aware of?

[color=LimeGreen]Other company officers wanted to value the shares * $34.00. The only issue he's aware of is that it could hit there and go above that. [/color]

Will FHAL trading be halted? If so, how long?

[color=LimeGreen]NO TRADING HALT, PERIOD. They are filing this in a way to avoid a trading halt. He didn't want to put up with the phone calls. LOL He said he's been called more by CVSU shareholders than FHAL shareholders. They want to know if their stock is only going to be worth .2X per share. LOL[/color]

What will occur during the trading halt?

JJ...can you ask if we get $15 a share..ask him if there is a split?


Do you expect that some of these sub-companies under CVSU will be spun off and the FHAL shareholders will get dividends of those spinoffs? Will those companies IPO? Will the dividends be restricted for a year?

[color=LimeGreen]Every company will be spun off within 1 1/2 years per contractual. $7.2 Bil government contract on American International Smart Structure. WOW Designed fiber optics systems used on space shuttle, etc. He never had the money to mfg. his patents. CVSU has backed them, formed new corporation, holding the patents, they got the funding, and it will be a huge, huge, deal. Biggest JV. Cities offering large municipal bonds and tax credits. [/color]

NO TRADING HALT!


Ask him about 3.5 billion in assets including 500 million in cash?
See if you can get some details


Will FHAL Shares be restricted in any way (just to clarify once and for all)

[color=LimeGreen]There will be NO restricted shares other than those of insiders, period. [/color]
JJ my first post here but here are some..maybe repeats

1) What is the specific closing date...not mentioned in the filing
2) 8K says either party can unwind the deal one day before close....did I read that right
3) Is their a quiet period for the insiders
4) How soon do they need to pay the 15. or difference after close. I didn't see a perforamnce date.

Thx, Rick

[color=LimeGreen]NO QUIET PERIOD! Just going through financials. They could be releasing PRs every day. They have an internet lottery that they're about to blast off! Georgia Ohio and California to begin with that will replace those state's state lotteries. Can buy on internet or through ATM machines. Even trying to see if they can sell stock through an ATM! [/color]
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
post from IHUB.

Posted by: JJSeabrook
In reply to: None Date:7/17/2006 7:33:09 PM
Post #of 2036

JJ & RUFUS Q & A!

I'm copying this off the post on my board so where it shows [color=Green], that is the response to the question. ENJOY BABY!!! ENJOY!!!!


Some confusion on HSM..Is the $15 paid to FHAL...they seem to feel that FHAL is paying CVSU shareholders the $15.00....

[color=Green]SB-2 will be at $15. They wanted to value it at $34 but Rufus didn't want to do that because the SEC would have stalled it. Valued it lower to avoid SEC questions and delay. 11 days til done. 10K filed by end of this week, if goes as planned. [/color]

[color=Green]Option in 8K applies to the reorganized holdings company. Currenlty loading the float * .20. He says the provision in the 8K DOES apply to FHAL shareholders as that provision is for the reorganized company and is NOT talking about the prior CVSU company. [/color]

[color=LimeGreen]Float now between 16-18 Mil. Large number of shorts. [/color]

Is there a limit on the number of shares that can be cashed in for $15? If so, what's the number.

[color=LimeGreen]NO[/color]

Is it necessary for any money to be paid to either side's shareholders at all for the deal to be completed?

NO


In other words, IF that $15 provision applies to current FHAL shareholders, which I don't think it does, and we "can" elect to accept $15 per share for our shares, when will we get the payment?

[color=LimeGreen]IT WILL BE VALUED AT $15 PER THEIR FILING. [/color]

What is the worst case scenario for FHAL shareholders?


[color=LimeGreen]Shares trading at $15. Down side is it gets shorted, but not a concern cause they're buying it as quick as it gets sold and plan to keep doing that. [/color]
What could change the scenario before 15 day period?

[color=LimeGreen]NOTHING, already filed with SEC. Can't undue the merger. It's filed with the Secretary of State in Delaware. It's a done deal. It's set in stone.[/color]

What are the prospects for the new CVSU conglomerate share value? Are they including the proposed value of the Amazon deal into the worth?

[color=LimeGreen]Amazon deal not as it seemed. Contacted ambassador of Brazil and it does hold huge future potential. Logs plus environmental credit...they, FHAL, will be originators and it has good long term potential. Current value not based on Amazon deal. Don't factor anything in that is not closed. Amazon deal not in the figures. Long term potential there but not a real major factor now in any way. FHAL was basically about to go broke. CVSU has never been on the OTC. This was a shortcut to get there. Could be on NASD in 45 days, but may take longer. Company grew MUCH faster than they ever thought it could during the time it took them to get all their SB2 filing together for all the JVs. It totally snowballed far faster than they could ever imagine. [/color]

[color=LimeGreen]THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON SB2 FILING FOR 7 MONTHS SO FAR BECAUSE OF ALL THE SUBSIDIARIES. [/color]


JJ ask him if they are going on a bigger exchange..why at $15 (not saying that would be the case here) would the company be a bulletin board stock??

[color=LimeGreen]45 days is the estimate to go NASD, but no guarantee. Issue that could factor in is the 50,000 shares traded per day. Don't know if it will trade that many shares per day once we open at $15, or so, so that "might" be an issue. [/color]


If FHAL shareholders opt to keep their shares...are there any issues to be aware of?

[color=LimeGreen]Other company officers wanted to value the shares * $34.00. The only issue he's aware of is that it could hit there and go above that. [/color]

Will FHAL trading be halted? If so, how long?

[color=LimeGreen]NO TRADING HALT, PERIOD. They are filing this in a way to avoid a trading halt. He didn't want to put up with the phone calls. LOL He said he's been called more by CVSU shareholders than FHAL shareholders. They want to know if their stock is only going to be worth .2X per share. LOL[/color]

What will occur during the trading halt?

JJ...can you ask if we get $15 a share..ask him if there is a split?


Do you expect that some of these sub-companies under CVSU will be spun off and the FHAL shareholders will get dividends of those spinoffs? Will those companies IPO? Will the dividends be restricted for a year?

[color=LimeGreen]Every company will be spun off within 1 1/2 years per contractual. $7.2 Bil government contract on American International Smart Structure. WOW Designed fiber optics systems used on space shuttle, etc. He never had the money to mfg. his patents. CVSU has backed them, formed new corporation, holding the patents, they got the funding, and it will be a huge, huge, deal. Biggest JV. Cities offering large municipal bonds and tax credits. [/color]

NO TRADING HALT!


Ask him about 3.5 billion in assets including 500 million in cash?
See if you can get some details


Will FHAL Shares be restricted in any way (just to clarify once and for all)

[color=LimeGreen]There will be NO restricted shares other than those of insiders, period. [/color]
JJ my first post here but here are some..maybe repeats

1) What is the specific closing date...not mentioned in the filing
2) 8K says either party can unwind the deal one day before close....did I read that right
3) Is their a quiet period for the insiders
4) How soon do they need to pay the 15. or difference after close. I didn't see a perforamnce date.

Thx, Rick

[color=LimeGreen]NO QUIET PERIOD! Just going through financials. They could be releasing PRs every day. They have an internet lottery that they're about to blast off! Georgia Ohio and California to begin with that will replace those state's state lotteries. Can buy on internet or through ATM machines. Even trying to see if they can sell stock through an ATM! [/color]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 

 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
amm I just screwed up or can someone direct me to a chart of CVSU....Is this somEthing I should already know???

More than likely it is....

Please forgive me, I've had 6 hrs of sleep over the last three days..

I don't think they trade on the free market... CVSU is an invalid symbol it says here (otcbb.com and other quote websites)
My point exactly!!!!

RED FLAG???
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I get info through Etrade using CVSU but it has 0's across the board. I assumed new ticker for the merger or privately held
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Catia: understood...good luck

mnvestor: I would be more than happy to call--and would, in fact--except I will be gone...

However, I was going to post a reaction to this, anyway, from preceding post:

quote:
. . . it was hard to type as fast as he was talking because of the corporate mumbo jumbo, . . .
Even if you are a skilled and experienced at taking notes over the phone...be it with CEOs, SEC, Congressional offices, whatever... everyone in this game should get a simple recorder that plugs into the phone jack, inline with the phone you use. (Caveat: check your state laws--in my state, recording phone conversations is legal as long as either party knows it's being recorded. In other words, party "A" can *not* record parties "B" and "C" without their knowledge. But I can record any conversation I have...that simple.)

If it is legal in your state, this is something you really should invest in, especially if you're not skilled at taking notes. Notice, the poster mentions "typing" the notes. For most beginners, this is even harder than taking notes longhand. Best to have a nice headset/microphone, for this kind of work.

The benefits of setting up a simple system are enormous...you can concentrate on your conversation, the nuances of hints, sudden insights--all with the knowledge you have it safely, securely recorded. The benefits of being able to transcribe a conversation with a CEO are immediately obvious. Beyond that, being able to pull "a file" re a conversation with a broker, an SEC official, etc...some months hence...could well be invaluable.

If this seems somehow "unethical," or your state laws interfere--you can always ask to record.

Anyway, don't let poor note-taking skills place a hurdle in your effort to get good DD info...

[ July 17, 2006, 20:03: Message edited by: T e x ]
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
amm I just screwed up or can someone direct me to a chart of CVSU....Is this somEthing I should already know???

More than likely it is....

Please forgive me, I've had 6 hrs of sleep over the last three days..

I don't think they trade on the free market... CVSU is an invalid symbol it says here (otcbb.com and other quote websites)
My point exactly!!!!

RED FLAG???

correction, otcbb.com should be finance.yahoo.com! the symbol does exist on otcbb.com except it's showing N/A in all fields.
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/quote_module.asp?symbol=cvsu
 
Posted by trader0403 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
I get info through Etrade using CVSU but it has 0's across the board. I assumed new ticker for the merger or privately held

CatiaEngineer, CVSU never has been traded before.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Thanks!!

But that does not help...

Says I' not entitled to see it...

I feel slighted!!!1
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Thanks!!

But that does not help...

Says I' not entitled to see it...

I feel slighted!!!1

Haha, you need to request "entitlement" [Razz]
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
jj posting on ihub, talked to rufus. not sure who he is or if can be trusted but talked a good line.
 
Posted by trader0403 on :
 
Fhal looks like a shell stock at this situation.
That is a pure shell stock game.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i suspect the same thing from those answers from ihub.. $15 is possible if extremely low float! Since CVSU is not trading at the moment, buying back FHAL is the only logical thing.. and looks like they bought a lot.. Man, was it a mistake to sell last week and today? i think i feel it is.. but if $15 is promised, i would still be happy with what i got left... imho
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Ok, take this for what its worth but I did call and Mr Harris DID answer. I joked with him about being the 1000th caller of the day and what did i win, he chuckled and confirmed yes i was the 1000th caller.

Ok, on to it then. I explained my lack of experience in all of this and told him myself and some colleagues got into FHAL for a short term gain. Then i explained how this merger thing changed everything, he agreed. I SPECIFICALLY asked if there would be a reverse split to bring FHAL value up to $15 he said NO! He said the merger would bring FHAL up to the $15 value. Of course i reacted as everyone has and he chuckled again. I THINK he was hesitant to respond on whether or not those shares would easily sell at that price, which could be the kicker. I asked "Is it true that FHAL was having financial difficulties so you guys came in to back them?" He said "Yes thats exactly true". I asked "Is the Amazon deal what made you jump on FHAL?" he said "Absolutely". The connection was sort of choppy and my experience in all of this is POOOOOR so i didnt get into major details, just the basics i listed above.

Nice guy, and a great sense of humor based on how many calls me must be dealing with! The number for him is on the website, his cell number. If anyone has doubts you are welcome to call yourself.

Keep in mind i still dont know all the secrets, hints and between the lines things that take place in trading so i could have missed something.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
if someone can find out exactly what the numbers of shares to date, that would be a major clue!
 
Posted by trader0403 on :
 
A post from ihub,
Posted by: Pedtupe

I recently spoke with Rufus and I can add this info:

Q: What is the closing date?
A: "Fifteen (15) business days from the filing of the 8-k?"
(8-k filed on July 12, I figured closing date to be August 1st --Pedtupe)

Q: Each CURRENT share of FHAL will be receiving one share of CVSU; there will be no reverse splits?
A: "There will be no reverse split of FHAL shares and each will receive one share of CVSU which will be valued at $15 at least."
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
why do ppl still dwell on the R/S question?? didn't they clarify that on the interview??!? came from Roufus himself.. $15 dollars is hard to believe, but aside from an R/S there are other ways to reduce the numbers, like buybacks..
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Crap, what I DIDNT ask was one important thing that now comes to mind. What if you need to have like 100,000 shares of FHAL for you to be considered in the merger? DAMMIT why didnt i ask that! Maybe its only major shareholders (controlling interest) that this applies to. Anyone know how that type of thing works?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i think in one of the phone calls, they say ALL FHAL shareholders are included.. but you should check again..
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Crap, what I DIDNT ask was one important thing that now comes to mind. What if you need to have like 100,000 shares of FHAL for you to be considered in the merger? DAMMIT why didnt i ask that! Maybe its only major shareholders (controlling interest) that this applies to. Anyone know how that type of thing works?

Doesnt matter, SEC makes companies treat all shareholders of the same class equally, in terms of consideration (dividends, splits, etc. including this)
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Crap, what I DIDNT ask was one important thing that now comes to mind. What if you need to have like 100,000 shares of FHAL for you to be considered in the merger? DAMMIT why didnt i ask that! Maybe its only major shareholders (controlling interest) that this applies to. Anyone know how that type of thing works?

Doesnt matter, SEC makes companies treat all shareholders of the same class equally, in terms of consideration (dividends, splits, etc. including this)
that's the regs...but won't be worth two dead flies if a pennystock winds up putting broker/dealers in a jam. Am *not* saying this one will, but the "equality" clause is nothing to hang a hat on...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, im shaking in my seat and im not going to sleep tonight now. I got so tired of reading all of the so-called responses from Rufus that i grabbed my cell and called. If all shareholders are treated equally and and what he told me was straight (no hidden clues or whatnot) then they are saying the value of fhal WILL BE $15 A SHARE AT TIME OF MERGER.

And after all of that, i still dont get it. [Frown]

Is CVSU for real? This guy isnt sitting at the bar hucking it up after each call is he? [Frown]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I've gone thru several "ticker symbol" changes and 1 merger...with all of them it took etrade nearly 3 days to "change the symbol" to the new one...by the time this was done and I was able to actually change most of them had a very different PPS than what the old was at...some higher some lower...I am fairly certain that depending on how quickly your broker gets the ticker change done and your portfoloio updated...it can take some time...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Tex, its not a "clause", its actually the law. No offense but I do know a good deal about this stuff. And the way I read the 8k I believe that the "valuation" is $15 but the merger consideration may be paid in equity. i.e. we get out $15 dollars worth in shares of the new company. FHAL is the Company and CVSU is the buyer. This is a 368(E) tax free reorganization under the tax code which allows for atleast 80% of the consideration to be paid in stock of the surviving corporation, hence the 1 for 1 transfer of stock or an equivalent amount of shares above the 1 for 1.(2.6a of 8k).
 
Posted by JohnDoe on :
 
Here's a link to CVSU Co..

http://www.waatle.com/index.html
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
so you guys are saying if you invested $520 (2000 shares) at the close a few weeks later they'd be $30,000, how can that be??? (not bashing, I just find it unbelievable!! LOL)
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
so you guys are saying if you invested $520 (2000 shares) at the close a few weeks later they'd be $30,000, how can that be??? (not bashing, I just find it unbelievable!! LOL)

I find it unbelieveable too which is why i finally called and muttled my way through a discussion with him.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I've gone thru several "ticker symbol" changes and 1 merger...with all of them it took etrade nearly 3 days to "change the symbol" to the new one...by the time this was done and I was able to actually change most of them had a very different PPS than what the old was at...some higher some lower...I am fairly certain that depending on how quickly your broker gets the ticker change done and your portfoloio updated...it can take some time...

This is EXACTLY what im concerned about 10. I will definately call Etrade tomorrow and bother them relentlessly for details regarding a merger. Specifically, who long it takes before i gain control of the new stock. I hope they can give some answers because my bloodpressure cant take this.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
Tex, its not a "clause", its actually the law. No offense but I do know a good deal about this stuff. And the way I read the 8k I believe that the "valuation" is $15 but the merger consideration may be paid in equity. i.e. we get out $15 dollars worth in shares of the new company. FHAL is the Company and CVSU is the buyer. This is a 368(E) tax free reorganization under the tax code which allows for atleast 80% of the consideration to be paid in stock of the surviving corporation, hence the 1 for 1 transfer of stock or an equivalent amount of shares above the 1 for 1.(2.6a of 8k). The other provisions are providing for an "out" in the case that the price is 15.00 or higher. Be careful here.

J, no offense taken. Merely pointing out the sad reality, which is if this goes "geek" in such a way as to leave broker/dealers exposed to forced buy-in, it's only realistic to expect the buy-in provision will be suspended. cf: GVRP, BCIT...others I could dig up... quickest, best example: GVRP... management effected an illegal r/s that involved "creating" A & B shares, on the fly...

just saying, unfortunately, "pennies" not afforded full weight of the law...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
Tex, its not a "clause", its actually the law. No offense but I do know a good deal about this stuff. And the way I read the 8k I believe that the "valuation" is $15 but the merger consideration may be paid in equity. i.e. we get out $15 dollars worth in shares of the new company. FHAL is the Company and CVSU is the buyer. This is a 368(E) tax free reorganization under the tax code which allows for atleast 80% of the consideration to be paid in stock of the surviving corporation, hence the 1 for 1 transfer of stock or an equivalent amount of shares above the 1 for 1.(2.6a of 8k). The other provisions are providing for an "out" in the case that the price is 15.00 or higher. Be careful here.

J, no offense taken. Merely pointing out the sad reality, which is if this goes "geek" in such a way as to leave broker/dealers exposed to forced buy-in, it's only realistic to expect the buy-in provision will be suspended. cf: GVRP, BCIT...others I could dig up... quickest, best example: GVRP... management effected an illegal r/s that involved "creating" A & B shares, on the fly...

just saying, unfortunately, "pennies" not afforded full weight of the law...

Scary stuff there Tex, and a good reason for me to get BACK into my research. Im learning a lot with this FHAL thing but its causing some distress in the meantime.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Very true Tex, and unfortunately we would have little force in court. However, with the climate of securities reg at the moment following Enron and company even the small guys are getting a once over when it comes to these filings. The one in a hundred shot that the SEC would investigate the co post merger I would think would be enough to keep the co from doing something so facially apparent to the SEC as treating shareholders differently. Man, I wish they would PR the real story on this. Honestly, I took 3 securities/corps. courses in law school and will be working in the field after the bar and I still dont see how we get $15 per share. Hey, if we do Im not going to argue but Ill believe it when i see it. That being said dont take anything I say as legal advice! lol just covering myself :-)
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, once Rufus and company start buying up the float just how fast will that drive the value down? I mean, im sure most everyone will sell HEAVY immediately and since CVSU wants FHAL they will buy it all up but by the time we get a chance to sell i really wonder what the value will be.

Ok ok ok, my head is POUNDING. I really need to get away from this PC. I will hang around for a bit longer to see if anyone else speaks with him then its beddie time for me.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
AAAARRRGGHH DAMN IT [Big Grin]

ok suppose this really wasn't too-good-to-be-true, once it's all finished the stock would open at $15? even if a big sell off happens, it would have to go down a LOT to make a loss...
3AM here, there goes my night rest LOL
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
All this $15 a share talk is driving me nuts.

FHAL has around 63 million outstanding so that'd give them a market cap of $945,000,000. Seems a little crazy to me.

If they did give $15 per FHAL share it would be the biggest pps drop ever. Who in there right mind wouldn't be cashing in that lotto ticket.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Exactly, this is why Ill believe it when I see it, then sell faster than, my new Mclaren F1 goes zero to 60 lol
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
The one in a hundred shot that the SEC would investigate the co post merger I would think would be enough to keep the co from doing something so facially apparent to the SEC as treating shareholders differently.
J? *if* the co _is_ trying to pull a fast one? First, they would be banking on much better odds than 1 in 100. Second, they would be reassured by the SEC's glacial response time.

All, please notice: I say "if"...

quote:
Man, I wish they would PR the real story on this.
Understood...that's why it's up to *us* to figger it out, lol

Anybody checked the SoS sites, for involved companies?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Tex, do you own any of FHAL? Just curious, but if that's to personal I appologize ahead of time.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
The line i simply do NOT understand is the option a) in the 8K.

a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price;

This is what led me originally to believe that they maintain the average closing price at time of merger UNLESS its above $15 in which case it will be valued at no more than $15. Hence b) or c). Keep in mind this is at the surviving companies discretion so CVSU calls the shots.

(b) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ) an amount in cash equal to $15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price per share of Buyer's Stock to be received by such holders of Company Shares; or

(c) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay no additional consideration to the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ).


Even after speaking with him im still unsure of what our future holds. But, im still sticking by the idea that they will choose a). But, then again, what does this do to the CVSU shareholders....surely they dont want to see their own stock valued under $1.00!

Brain is mush today, i need answers and then i need sleep...........
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I thought this was an interesting read.

http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/0,4621,300886,00.html
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
A colleague of mine sent me these clips from the fidelity website (i dont have fidelity access myself). It seems Mr Harris will speak on M N 1 again today. Maybe he is tired of all the phone calls? For what its worth im unable to find anything on the M N 1 site.

 The FrontHaul Group (FHAL <http://eresearch.fidelity.com/eresearch/evaluate/snapshot.jhtml?symbols=FHAL >) up 58.5% on 3.1 million shares traded.

This one is from Stock guru

The FrontHaul Group recently announced it has gone through a recent transformation and Market News first would like to invite you to join us in welcoming Rufus Paul Harris the new CEO of this company for a Live Exclusive Discussion.
 
 The FrontHaul Group (FHAL <http://eresearch.fidelity.com/eresearch/evaluate/snapshot.jhtml?symbols=FHAL >) - Monday's shares increased 58.54% over open to $0.260. The volume was at 3,107,798. The FrontHaul Group has gone through a recent transformation and Market News first would like to invite you to join us in welcoming Rufus Paul Harris the new CEO of this company for an Live Exclusive Discussion. The FrontHaul Group is a publicly held Delaware corporation with branch offices in Rockwall, TX. The FrontHaul Group expects to grow their business specifically in the areas of 3rd party logistics, which includes but is not limited too Transportation Brokerage and Motor Carrier services.

The FrontHaul Group is a publicly held Delaware corporation with branch offices in Rockwall, TX. The FrontHaul Group expects to grow their business specifically in the areas of 3rd party logistics, which includes but is not limited too Transportation Brokerage and Motor Carrier services.

For a quote and the latest news on this company, please visit: http://www.*********.com/profiles/FHAL.php .

Does anyone have any more info regarding this??
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I believe that is old info. He already spoke on ***. I think they are just telling you what has happened lately.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I thought the same thing but its dated today in fidelity. It also states yesterdays increase and closing in the article. I hope they wouldnt show current news for an old story but initially I thought the same thing.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I could be wrong, I think someone on IHUB is saying the same thing.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
if I remember correctly, m n 1, didn't show that Harris was scheduled last time - so, it's possible they may be throwing him in, again, without actually showing him on the schedule
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well he probably called them around midnight last night begging for 30 minutes to explain the 8K so people will leave hime alone! [Smile]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
looks like it`s gonna run out of the gate!! B/A .28 x .29!!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
0.29
excellent
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
.30 X .31!! lots of volume comming in!! nice start!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
0.31
wow!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
good morning to you all and it's a good morning so far... [Wink]
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Wow - a break of .34 would be big.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Yea, but I still don't "believe" anyone will be getting 15$ for their shares. Theres no way they can't afford to "give" money away when they borrow so much. Right!?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
.325 X .33 holy crap!! look at it go!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
we're at 0.33
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Good morning people. I am at a crappy campsite with a small unsecured wireless signal, But I had to watch this baby go.... WOHOOOOOO!!!!!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Kinda reminds me of the JPHC thing and how good and grand they were to treat the stockholders. Then "wham" there you have it, cloud cover gone and all, left in the sun to rot.
Luckily I was not in that fiasco!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I dont want to rot in the sun [Frown]

Anyone reading L2's? Inexperienced here but they look....strange?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Little shake, some profit grabbers.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
going UP!! .31 x .32, it`s going to be an interesting week!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
maybe not ...lol
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Doniboy, back in...for a fast play..scary chit.LOL
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
.32 x .33!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Dustoff, I think we'll see at least .5 today. JMO
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
we're at 0.34
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Doniboy, so you picked the hottest week of the year to go camping?

Jo
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
.33 x .34!! wow!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee...still the same resistance? flippin?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha... i'm in pittsburgh right now and yeah, it was 100 yesterday and talked to some folks in wisconsin and on sunday it was 100 i believe, maybe it was saturday... so that weather should be moving your way doni;) hope you have a good fan for that computer;)
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
.5 today? man, i'll be hitting myself if it goes that high...i just sold my position at .33. nice little profit in 2 days.keeping my eye on it though for when it dips back down to low 20's to cover that gap this morning
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
L2's that are not delayed please?
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
bid
.32x1
.30x3
.26x1

ask
.325x1
.33x1
.35x3
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Tryin ti get caught up 10..... Back in a minute
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
.5 today? man, i'll be hitting myself if it goes that high...i just sold my position at .33. nice little profit in 2 days.keeping my eye on it though for when it dips back down to low 20's to cover that gap this morning

I'll be hitting myself if it doesn't! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I don't pick when I go camping, my wife does [Frown]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
.325...doesn't want to push thru and hold...c'mon baby!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
thats a tough one 10.... it's bangen its head on it hard
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
.5 today? man, i'll be hitting myself if it goes that high...i just sold my position at .33. nice little profit in 2 days.keeping my eye on it though for when it dips back down to low 20's to cover that gap this morning

ooooph, i dunno... guess it depends on the MM's but that gap is pretty small if there is even one there... bigger gap at .135-.14 and that didn't fill...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Eff it...get the bat ready Maumee..I'm goin'!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Where?
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I don't pick when I go camping, my wife does [Frown]

that's some funny crap . . . I've been married since 98, so I know what you mean!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
NOOOOOOOOOOO........
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I was goin' to flip...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I was goin' to flip...

Shhh dont say that, see what you did? [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
normal 10:00 am pullback I figure.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
normal 10:00 am pullback I figure.

back to .32! that did`nt last long!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LOL..I see that Cat...stopped me dead in my tracks...
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
it closed last night at .26 and opened this morning at .285 and jumped right to .30....i think thats more of a gap than .135-.14 but who knows if it'll get filled...lots of momo on this stock. hitting resistance right at .32
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i'm new to the charts thing but looking at it it doesn't seem to be that big... hey maumee, you seem to be the best at it.. what do you think?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I was goin' to flip...

Well , I guess we will se who needs the Bat!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Smart AZZ! I didn't go...
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
i'm no pro either but by lookin at the chart and lookin at past performance, i would guess its going to retract back to about .25 just like it did the past wednesday after such a huge gain...from .16 yesterday to .32 today
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
doing an NDOL.. but probably much more..
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
.35 here we come!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
BreaK through .32 already!!! Let's move...
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
MM`s are stalling or accumulating, lots of buys at .32 but they are not raising the ask.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Volume doesn't seem to be as high...maybe Rufus really is buying up shares...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Smart AZZ! I didn't go...

MISS YOU!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Smart AZZ! I didn't go...

MISS YOU!!!
"tap tap on the shoulder.."
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Volume doesn't seem to be as high...maybe Rufus really is buying up shares...

Or NITE is shorting it...
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
zippady do dah dey!!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
there are still some blocks at .32 .324 .33 small wall at .35
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Volume doesn't seem to be as high...maybe Rufus really is buying up shares...

Yea im starting to believe the hype about Rufus buying up the float every chance he gets. I believe this could have started as early as last Monday when a huge spike occured first thing in the morning. Im holding, hes not getting my shares this cheap. [Smile]
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
what is the phone nr of rufus or harris ?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
did Rufus give a price that he was buying them back at?
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
Claimed to be buying back at the bid...
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
+1 678 255 7650
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by buck*******:
Claimed to be buying back at the bid...

they can only buy at the BID, buying at the ask would be considered manipulation.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by buck*******:
Claimed to be buying back at the bid...

So this stall isn't "him"...wonder what's up...

Plus with him doing that...wouldn't it actually bring the price down?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
His number is 678-255-7650

And no, he didnt give any details of share costs for him....but eluded that the shares will be bought up as they are available. I suggest others calling as well if time permits because after i hung up i wished i had kept him on longer. Maybe if the news is true and he is on M N 1 again today we will be "enlightened".
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
I must agree with ya TEX...The gap must and will fill.....As far as bein carefull goes...well... too late...Thanks to F-ing Ameritrade and the little glitch they had Friday I couldn't get out of my posisition.. Will sell for small loss or cost average to save neck!!

sell it early.. prolly around 0.135-0.14... i will put a bid around dat range [Smile] ..
WOW. Kinda way off there huh muskin on that call! LOL....
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by buck*******:
Claimed to be buying back at the bid...

they can only buy at the BID, buying at the ask would be considered manipulation.
I was just trying to answer 10's question...I don't recall Rufus stating a price that they were buying shares back at...all he said was "buying at the bid"
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by buck*******:
Claimed to be buying back at the bid...

So this stall isn't "him"...wonder what's up...

Plus with him doing that...wouldn't it actually bring the price down?

if they put in an order at the bid and the bid ticks up he gets filled, he can do that all day. so they can buy on every up tick. or down tick
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I wasn't aware of the buy back rumor when I called yesterday, so I didn't ask, but I love peoples reactions when they call themselves. I think their post will begin something like, HOLY (you fill in the blank) IT'S TRUE!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Hey Money!!! You must of really been bangen that keyboard to find that post......Probably busted a frenzied sweat just thinkin about it....Wanna cookie??

PUTZ
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by buck*******:
Claimed to be buying back at the bid...

So this stall isn't "him"...wonder what's up...

Plus with him doing that...wouldn't it actually bring the price down?

if they put in an order at the bid and the bid ticks up he gets filled, he can do that all day. so they can buy on every up tick.
Yea and the beauty of that I suppose is that at time of merger, regardless of what the stock "starts" at, he already owns a large chunk of them. Eh?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
oops!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Hey Money!!! You must of really been bangen that keyboard to find that post......Probably busted a frenzied sweat just thinkin about it....Wanna cookie??

PUTZ

just thinking outloud, I could be wrong about everything!
Mad...I think he was referring to the money x3...
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
I have seen this before. It is a old "Jedi" MM mind game to steal our shares.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
]

Yea and the beauty of that I suppose is that at time of merger, regardless of what the stock "starts" at, he already owns a large chunk of them. Eh? [/QUOTE]

That actually makes sense...and it would be a good thing..now I can see how there would be no r/s or what not...he would "own a large portion of the shares...if what he says comes to be...with the $15.00...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Anyone following M N 1? I am unable to. There are 3 slots open for "To be Announced". All CST.

9:30
11:00
11:30

I still dont know if the news was true that Rufus would be on today but I imagine if he was they could be announcing it live right now.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
YUP!
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
mighty tight...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Ya t is Dusty!!! Which ways it gunna go???HMMMMMMM
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
stalling for sellers, not getting many! just dribs and drabs.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:


That actually makes sense...and it would be a good thing..now I can see how there would be no r/s or what not...he would "own a large portion of the shares...if what he says comes to be...with the $15.00... [/QB]

Yup, and im banking on this in fact. I got into FHAL at .082 based on the Amazon deal and i dont intend to get out until the deal becomes reality.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
meekly peeps----------->up?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Hey 10 if this breaks to 62 now I'm gunna be pizzed>>
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Not real worried about this today. There wll be PR's soon enough to answer all the questions.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
How do L2's look?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
there is a HUGE line up of MM`s on this though not all are posting quotes yet. same thing happened with NDOL as it approached a dollar and when it hit there were two dozen MM`s quoeting it! MM`s i never saw before were all over it. this could be setting up to go HUGE. JMO! FWIW> IA!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
2 x .295

1 x .30
1 x .305
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
bid
.295x2
.29x2
.26x2

ask
.30x1
.305x1
.315x1
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
even VFIN showed up..LOL
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Hey 10 if this breaks to 62 now I'm gunna be pizzed>>

That's why you only flip half...
I'm a greedy biatch...and I want it both ways... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
10 you greedy little mofo! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
there be some buying going on..
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
we've already hit yesterday's volume
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey s to ck gur u did you call the BIG BOSS yet?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
10 you greedy little mofo! [Big Grin]

YEP! YEP! [Razz]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
MM`s are waking up! we may see the .40`s soon!
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
Back in at .31
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
big buys now
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee..where's the bat????!!!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Therrrrrrrrre it goes. Whats the resistance now?
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
yep saw the buyers a coming..Here we are at .35 ask..me made a lucky call..LOL
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
HERE WE GO
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
what resistance, this is going to fly....
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
WHOAH was that .38 i saw for a second?!?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
OMG tiny at .38 .42 .45 damn, changing so fast i can't keep up
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
Here come 40 baby
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
next wall at 0.45
 
Posted by Sasquatch on :
 
You folks are flying now! Congratulations for keeping the faith.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
OMG...!!!!
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
.41 ask ----->nice

just thought I would mark the spot.

in at .33
out at .41

11:23:56
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
Sweet Jesus!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
WTF..big jump...and Large drop...within minutes...??
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
shake it, then back up
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
ppl taking profits
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
this is all over the place...
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
This in no way sucks [Razz]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
going back up boys!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Was anyone able to buy or sell during that little ride?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Did ya flip the rest there 10???
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
i think we see a run at .45 this afternoon for sure imo
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Was anyone able to buy or sell during that little ride?

Didnt try, just picked my jaw up off the floor and watched it go back down.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
gonna go again
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
ask: .38 .4 .42 .45
bid: strong at .35
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i recognize the same pattern now as ndol and that stock went to 1,5 dollars...i will be very happy if fhal does the same... that 15 dollar dream is probably too good to be true but a dollar is very realistic
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think we'll be over .45 within the hour! JMO
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
equal bids now at .35 and .36 .. FOLKS, i would not sell below .40's today!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
No Maumee...still in shock...LOL
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
the float must be dried up almost
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
ask: .4 small wall at .42, thin .45 .46 .48 then straight to .50's
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Was anyone able to buy or sell during that little ride?

Grabbed some at 32 dumped at.395 $450 bucks green in about 5 minutes.... Gotta love it...

I woulda been alot happier if I would have just held this morning though...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Sheeeeet, I ain't sellin till $15 BIACHES! [Big Grin] [Wink]
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
this stock is really worth the risk to wait for the next pr... you can do some profit taking but i am going to ride this till the next pr...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
WOW!! this thing is off the hook!!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *********06:
this stock is really worth the risk to wait for the next pr... you can do some profit taking but i am going to ride this till the next pr...

Too much gain in the near future, I agree with this statement
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
going out on a limb here and calling the top at .54 today.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
ask: thin .41 .42 wall at .45
bid thin .405 .40 .39 .38 thick .35
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
somebody kick UBSS in the ass
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
UBSS will get eaten up soon.. it's thin..
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
My prediction for today(HMMMMM) let's say .855
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
wow, if we break .45, .50's are soooo easy.. so thin between those..
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
we are very thin on the ask to .45 .. there is a giant bid at .38 don't fall for it.. don't fall for the shake!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=FHAL&p=W&b=5&g=0&id=p71610336373

Nice chart!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
My prediction for today(HMMMMM) let's say .855

.62
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
0,45 close :=)
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
ask: very thin .41 .42 .43 wall .45
bid: thin .40 .395 giant .38
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
need to break through at .42 and then .50 is a stones throw
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
gonna shake to .34 i think
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
man, this is stable
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Gonna consolidate here a bit then another boom me thinks.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
was that 50k a buy or sell?
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
it was a buy at ask..
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
That's what I thought. HMMMMMMMM!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
besides a profit taker who wants to make some quick bucks i don't think many here will sell and will wait for the next pr..if that pr is good we go above a dollar..if it is bad we go back to 1O cents but i go for the dollar :=)
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
MN, how do L2's look?
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
we will tick to HOD in t-minus 1 minute
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Doubt was gone from my mind when I hung up the phone yesterday! I'm looking forward to holding this each day.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Nice call!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
sorry it was about 2min
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
L2's gettin' thinner...
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
Here we go again
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Holy mother of all things
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Shares are very limited, this will rise quick, L2's too good to be true
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
New MM FANC lol
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
so my internet was having some problems and i get back on and hot dog!

Doni i hope your not melting over there... you still watching?
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
GREAT bid support !
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Well, I sold my IDWD position this morning and bought in here at .31. I'm not that sad.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
10 my friend, how you holdin up?
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
this baby is going to shock a lot of investors imo...damn i am in the stock so long now and this even makes me excited...i know it is otcbb and i have to be carefull but hey dreaming is nice :=)
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Doin good right now...happy as a flippin clam...just sorry I attempted a flip...but it's all good! Now let's move!
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
So I had an order in for a sell at .36 from last week that i totally forgot about it, and it hit today [Frown] . Oh well, ended up buying more anyway lol.
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
man, can believe i sold at .32 son of a *****! oh well, cant complain about makin some profit
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I'm just glad it isn't climbing like a rocket. It is doing it in steps and that is good. Support is building at each step up.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
It seemed impossible to me, but if you put the puzzle together it starts making a heck of a lot of sense. We'll find out soon enough and we'll be happy little people!
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
I dont have my power etrade anymore, so I can't see level 2s, anyone know a free place to watch live l2s for fhal?
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
this baby keeps going up and up
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
My prediction for today(HMMMMM) let's say .855

.62
I'll venture a guess at .57
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
HOLY SHEET what was that!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
L2's someone PLEASE!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LOL...let's go!!!!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
2 x .465

1 x .47
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
0.5 around the corner!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
50!!!
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
.50
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
What's going on with this thing !!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
.54 Whooo HOOO!!!!!
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
.54, this is crazy!!!
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Up 1000% from June, careful here.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
.55!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
im tryin to post l2s but they are movin so fast

bid
.56x1
.55x1

ask .57x2
.58x2
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
Up 1000% from June, careful here.

peaser we're waiting for the $15;) ahaha...
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
only 14.43 to go
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
WTF is going on? I leave for lunch and im discussing a small profit sell at .38 and now its rushing through the 50s? Heh, good thing im still not panicking........
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
That would be sweet, just be careful.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
hey Peaser...you playin'?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
so what are the odds this thing goes up tomorrow as well? with no PR...
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
Twice the 10 day average volume...
 
Posted by juice on :
 
holy crap punching my face in sold at .27 after the big burst whats going on here?!??!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
this is outta control...
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
bid
.585x3
.56x3

ask
.59x1
.63x1
.635x1
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
hmmmm bangin .60 hard?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
.60!!!!!
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
i feel that pain juice, i sold at .32 and im seein my l2's going off the hook. at this rate a buck is realistic by day's end..im scared to jump in at this .6 though
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
WOW!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by juice on :
 
yeah wow i never would have thought this happen today. always happens to me o well still made a little buck, but i had this orginally at .085!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
good to see you got back in dust... doubled your position today eh?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
cmon shake it keep it healthy
 
Posted by juice on :
 
is there news out or something?
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
do not flip now, 0.6xx are coming again
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I also sold too soon. But in the past I have made mistakes by holding on too long. I am glad I did not sell all my shares at least.
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
this will see .70 very soon....should have got back in at .40 after sellin at .32
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
juice i think everyone is just riding the $15 share rumor... everyone that calls ruf gets the same reply...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
10 see how fast it's moving, low volume, I think the float has been all bought up, just like Rufus said. Hope ya'll are enjoying the ride. JMO of course!
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Not in 10. This one is crazy.

Nice play all!
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
good to see you got back in dust... doubled your position today eh?

------------------------------------------------

$159.97 profit... selling into the feathering 1st top, me thought that was it..Just goes to show.

Got in late and high at .33 out at .41

[ July 18, 2006, 13:04: Message edited by: Dustoff 1 ]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
what was the next resistance level? did someone say 0.64 earlier?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
this is some big volume, jeezus
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Might be toppin' out in the low .60's, but who knows?

The drops have been minimal so far.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Wow, .65!

You guys/gals sure have made bank today!

Congrats!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
mm share sizes getting smaller and smaller, only takes a few buys to move this, unreal
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
QUIN and VFIN on the party now
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
we may see 0.7 soon
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
7 IS COMING REAL SOON
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
anyone think this will keep going until the symbol change?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Nothin to stop it till .90....They may take this to a dollar by tomorrow....
\

Crazy!!
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
QUIN and VFIN on the party now

Be careful, QUIN on the ASK scars me.

QUIN brought XKEM tanking down from .11.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
All depends on the shares left to trade at this point.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
I'm dizzy watching this!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
this is nuts
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
cmon shake it to .60 so it stays within the boli lol
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
UNREAL! Cassity...lookin' like you could be very right on that share business being bought up!

Yeah BABY!!!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Just look at what time it is right now! Imagine in a couple of hours what this is going to do!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
little shake, then L2s thin to 0.7s, hold tight
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
A little lull in the storm now.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
10 + maummee, remember QUIN!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Everyone at least make sure that you have your capital out...and enjoy the flippin' ride!!!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
soooo, next week wednesday the symbol changes eh?
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Holy crap, .70!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
10 + maummee, remember QUIN!!

Don't go there Peaser...really????
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
alert 70 damn this is really going to a buck today
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
yes!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
we are so thin to 0.8 now, MM droping off ask...
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Just be careful is all I can say.

QUIN has been working the ASK.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Love it love it, bought a truck load of this when it dipped
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
10 when I talked to him, he was very direct and to the point. He knows what his company is worth, we don't, but we will very, very soon. I hope I don't sound like a pumper, just really excited!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
QUIN and UBSS fighting it out for the ask
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
80 is right around the corner
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Here's .80!!!!!
ok..not quite...
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
this is out of control
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Ok, selling half of my holdings now, see if anybody takes my sells.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
If this hits .80 I'm gonna poop.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i'm giggling like a school girl...
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
At this rate we may take out a buck soon.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
.80!!!!!!
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
LOL, wow, .80

Forget me, I'm just jealous I guess.
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I have never seen had one of my stocks go up this fast!!!!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
me neither,this is incredible and watch out for a major gap tomorrow
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
If this hits .80 I'm gonna poop.

Hope you have a change of clothes...LOL
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Actually, today is my birthday and this was is GREAT gift!!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Be right back.....LMAO
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i guess 10 just pooped lol
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Repeat, flipping is a losing battle right now...GLTY if you try, Rufus will snatch up your shares
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
happy birthday ruthie!!!! nice present indeed!
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Thank you very much...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
shake it baby one more time
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Nice, I got some filled at .80 cents. Thanks for buying my initial investment and double that
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
OMFG guys.. i just had class and came out with this, i set sell half at .40 OMFG.. i'm such an idiot!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
L2's....?
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
can somebody call rufus, i am just too excited and i think i will speak russian or something like that to him because of this excitement lol
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
I have never seen had one of my stocks go up this fast!!!!
I have: NDOL and STTK. Unfortunately, they both went back down almost as quickly and I now sit on losses in both of them. I know you've already protected your capital, so enjoy the ride. Everyone else who hasn't already taken out their capital, please be careful and avoid the "greed monster".

Jo
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
here comes the shake
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Needs to hold/bounce by 1:30 - 2:00 between .50 - .55 for it to continue up IMO.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hmmm... big shake...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, my original investment is now out and im riding on free shares averaging .082 a share. YEEEEHAW.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Ouch...walked away...hope all took profits on that one....Great Ride..!
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
shakin down
bid
.665x2
.65x1
.62x1
ask
.67x1
.70x1
.73x1
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
a shake to take cheap shares, a mm move imo...
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
bid: very thin .67 .65 . .62 .60
ask: very thin .73 .74 .75 .79 .80
damn guys, changing so fast..
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Lostone wrote:
quote:
OMFG guys.. i just had class and came out with this, i set sell half at .40 OMFG.. i'm such an idiot!!
You are not an idiot. If you considered .40 to be a good profit for you before class, nothing has changed. You still got a good profit.

Jo
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
That was a nice little run to say the least. I'm still looking for it to get over the 1000% mark to sell though. Got spoiled with USXP!
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
movin so fast that these realtime l2's im postin are about as good as 15min delayed l2's
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
10 !!

I gotta tell ya....

I made a few bucks, But you won't believe how bad I F-ed that trade up...What Dumn chit!!!

ARRRRRRGGGGG
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
really needs to take a break and drop to around .60
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Man, I'm glad I sold half of my holdings at a average of .78.

Man that was a rought ride.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Jo...hope your portfolio looks little better with this today...remember take your profits!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
and to think i had 255k shares last week.. sold almost half last week for dirt cheap at .175 .. and somemore yesterday at .26 .. sold half of what's left at .40 .. then some more at .76 and .80
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee..i feel your pain...but profits are profits!!!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
It does look better. I sold pretty early at .39, but I'm satisfied with my profit.

No sense in playing the coulda woulda shoulda game.

Jo
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
the asks are sooooo thin .71 .72 .73 .75 then wall at .78 and up ..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
...Goin' again?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I hope ya'll bought back in, looks like we'll be going back up right NOW!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
this baby wants 1.00 so bad, shes on a tear
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
thin to 0.8
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
super thin asks to wall of .80
bids are thin .69 .66 .62

next good sell target if we break 80 is .90ish
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
OH MY GOD...WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED?????
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
this is healthy, cmon hit .58-60 then back up
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Great trading you all, this was up 1600+% from June.

.82 was prolly it IMO, but there may be a few more daytrade opps in there.
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
10 !!

I gotta tell ya....

I made a few bucks, But you won't believe how bad I F-ed that trade up...What Dumn chit!!!

ARRRRRRGGGGG

me friggin too river sun of a .....
well move on i recon
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
OH MY GOD...WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED?????

we're green!!!!
lol.. i had the same reaction dude.. but i've already sold most of my shares.. for cheap!
got only about 55k shares left.. leaving it for 1.00+
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
if she closes strong im in till tomorrow atleast, already took my orig investment out when I doubled, its alllll greeen from here
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Sooooo thin to .90. Sweeeet!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
L2s are out of control, lot of mm games
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
wow.. unbelievable.. selling imjx for 5k loss seems nothing to what i've gained.. i thought life was sh!tty.. lol.. thank you god!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I sold looking for a dip. Good luck everyone!!!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
After this ride...any other stock is goin' to be very borin'! LOL...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
this is looking quite solid for eod run, scary, but solid
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
ask very thin 73 75 76 86 88 90
bid 74 73 68 62 61 giant at .6
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i guess you can't fight an 8K
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
It is all green for me as well. It sure is a nice feeling. Unfortunately, I do not have this happen to me very often these days. This is fantastic!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
ask: barely anything at .781 79 80 84 86 88
bid: thin 77 74 72 70
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
This is going so much higher, GLT those who are out, hope you enjoyed!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Looking for a dip Cass, not sure if I'll get one. What a freakin ride [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
i think youll get one to about .60 but who knows this beast is locked and loaded who knows where it is going
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Are you out too Jmoove?
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
If Rufus is buying, a dip into 0.6x is going to be tough to come by, IMO
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
good luck to us guys, i have another class.. gonna be til 3 this time.. i may just leave early to watch this..
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
nope still have half mine, riding for free now, looking forward to EOD and gap tomorrow if she closes strong
 
Posted by Homersbud on :
 
I have to be the worst trader known to mankind.

I sold outta this today at $.30 (after buying in at $.22) so I made a lil bit of money. I come back to lunch only to find out it's trading at $.75. Unreal...


Congrates to everyone who is making a sh!tload off FHAL. I wish I had your luck...lol
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
At least you made money Homer, it could have been worse.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
made what 35% homer, not going to get that in a mutual fund in one day ;-)
 
Posted by Homersbud on :
 
quote:
At least you made money Homer, it could have been worse.

You're right, it's all about making money, but this seems to happen a lot to me...lol

Oh well, time for me to find my next stock where I'll sell outta of before the major run happens. Doh!

glta! [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
there may be a dip here Homer, it might still be profitable. But don't take my advice [Smile]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
dip coming, lookin for .60
 
Posted by rickachiu on :
 
Easy comes, easy goes..
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Posted by: trout31
In reply to: None Date:7/18/2006 2:00:51 PM
Post #of 2589

JJ... I just spoke with the CEO Rufus

Well, you are 100% correct, $15 will be the share price on the day merger is completed also ..., company name change, and symbol change all of this will occur within 11 days.
Good luck with the dip. Another doubter, turned believer.


Rufus said, He expect this new merged company to Go up from $15. Not to drop! Important, but to go up!

He also said, That they have the qualification in assets to meet NASDAQ listing, & Yes (he stated this is what the company is shooting for).
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
SO LONG DIPPY!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
damn you cass:) geez... just had to make me debate selling with this 15 talk... hmmm, i may call him soon just to confirm... anyone have any questions for the big guy? i'll hold off for another hour or so for questions to build up...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Only one, just confirm one more time about share buy back! Thanks
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I skimmed some of the posts here on the last few pages so I may have missed it . . . did anyone have anything further to report about Rufus potentially being on M N 1?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
P rowds...ask him if he is still buying back shares and how many he is planning on buying before the merger is done...or the change is done
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
10 did you leave half your shares! [Wink]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
wow had to go out for a while just got back, HOLY CRAP!!! forgot to cancel my GTC sell order! oh well 150 percent is still pretty good!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Cassity...just over half...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
good question 10... and cass for sure will be asking about it... anyone else with questions for the big guy?

L2's anyone?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
I skimmed some of the posts here on the last few pages so I may have missed it . . . did anyone have anything further to report about Rufus potentially being on M N 1?

I watched the M N 1 site but couldnt listen in. I dont think he was on, i think fidelity made a mistake.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
3 x .62

2 x .63
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
good question 10... and cass for sure will be asking about it... anyone else with questions for the big guy?

L2's anyone?

Could you see how he responds if you say something along the lines of staying long term after the merger? In other words, is he agressively trying to take us all out or does he WANT FHAL owners to stay on board?

(this sounds a litte more confusing than it did in my head, i hope you follow. I forgot to ask him about the long term potential and how we fit in)
 
Posted by Homersbud on :
 
Ok, I bought back in at $.64. Let's goooooo FHAL!
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
this stocks gained almost 100% yesterday and over 200% today (at .80)...usually theres some retraction after such huge gains...how low do you all think it will drop in the next day or 2 before moving up again? or is this drop to the mid 60's the retraction?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
looking good for eod
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I thought about getting back in here if it dips, but there are parts of this whole scenario that concern me. Sounds an awful lot like NDOL when it ended up doing a reverse merger and the share price plummeted instead of going up to the $2.17 they put out in their PR.

Also just a heads up those of you who have TD Ameritrade. When I had a stock that changed the ticker symbol, I could not sell it online right away. I COULD only trade it by calling the TDAmeritrade and they put the sell in for me. Just keep that in mind for the "big day".

Jo
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well im new at this but i think as long as the float is still being eaten up we wont see much of a dip. As you said, we may already have seen it. If the rumor is correct, Rufus is cleaning up and as a result things are stable. But, im still learning and im anxious to learn.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Where's my dip???? lol
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Where's my dip????
What'd ya order, Rocky Road?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
i guess .62 was it, not .60 like i thought
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Sounds like NDOL. I don't think so. NDOL was waiting for a 8K. We already have it. NDOL said they were doing a buyout and then changed to a reverse merger, which caused everyone to sell. NO similarities. JMO
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Jo, NDOL did not have 8k filed with SEC confirming merger, and it was a cash buyout before it turned into merger..
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
any other possible questions... getting antsy to call. i'll give it a little bit more time...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Well im new at this but i think as long as the float is still being eaten up we wont see much of a dip. As you said, we may already have seen it. If the rumor is correct, Rufus is cleaning up and as a result things are stable. But, im still learning and im anxious to learn.


 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Tell him L2s look strong for EOD run and to continue buying the float, thanks
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Just call and CONFIRM!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well im new at this but i think as long as the float is still being eaten up we wont see much of a dip. As you said, we may already have seen it. If the rumor is correct, Rufus is cleaning up and as a result things are stable. But, im still learning and im anxious to learn.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
I jumped back in...Hey 10 what will happen if me puts laundry soap in the dishwasher?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Tell him I'll sell my remaining freebies for $7.50 each, today.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
i think they might let this run
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Well, the RSI is below 50 now so lets start buying again.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Haha im so excited i keep quoting myself and editing my edits and then re-editing them and quoting them. I need to slow down. [Smile]
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Jo, NDOL did not have 8k filed with SEC confirming merger, and it was a cash buyout before it turned into merger..
True. But when they did announce the merger, they still bandied about that $2.17 pps stuff that folks were lured into. I bought some at 1.00 for Pete's sake! I mean, who wouldn't want 100% profit if we were to get $2.17 a share.

I'm not saying that these too scenarios are exactly the same, it's just that a lot of the talk about this $15.00 pps is eerily similar. I mean, who wouldn't want to buy now at .70 and sell at even half the $15.00! I just don't want to get stuck again buying high and then holding a bag because that share price is a pipe dream.

Jo
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
UBSS is on the BID and ASK now. Someone kick him in the tail.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
I agree, but when an 8k is filed with SEC you go to jail if you mislead investors, this is much different, I agree with you about NDOL, it was pumped by company only to reverse directions..too many people have spoken with CEO for this to go sour, his life/reputation/family/source of income etc is on the line here...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
ok... so, cass i'm dumbfounded... nobody buy off of what i am about to post...
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
P Rowds...how about asking him if they plan to sell shares to raise capital after the symbol change?

I just wonder if they'll dilute this thing down once (if) the pps gets to $15.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
mms trying to cool it down with the big spread
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Told you so!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
10 I think we have another believer!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
P rowd, are you sure you don't want to load the boat before posting???
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
If FHAL ceases to exist then do we get a 1:1 share in CVSU? I see CVSU is listed but with no volume. I didn't see this in the PRs unless I read too fast.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
He's probably having a hard time typing, after what he was just told! [Eek!]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
super nice guy... everyone should call and talk to him. real nice and has no problem explaining anything. (although, real hard to understand:) and maybe not EVERYONE, but just saying)

so, the $15 is not a joke. he said the symbol change will be around the 28th-1st. He submitted some financials and forms and we should expect a PR within the next few days. He is still buying the float and will continue to do so until it is completely gone. They will be "going a different avenue" with the amazon project... to garbled to exactly understand him but he made it clear they *will* be doing that shortly.

and catia, he said he doesn't see any problem with going long. with projects coming up and trying to get onto the nasdaq...

i dunno what to say. i guess i may hold this till the symbol change haha.... this is crazy. dunno if i'm going to dump too much in, don't wanna be caught with my pants down;) but yeah... you guys be the judge....
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
3 * ask
1 * bid
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
He's probably having a hard time typing, after what he was just told! [Eek!]

Yea, i was the same last night. I fat fingered my way through tons of typos and backspaces because i was shaking so much. Then, of course, figuring no one would believe me so i was hesitant to say much. But, anyway.....get it out P!! [Smile]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
nite gathering shares
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i summed it up pretty good... i don't have anything to record it... i suggest somebody that does should call him and ask to record it and post a link too it just so ppl that don't trust anyone here can listen for themselves...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
super nice guy... everyone should call and talk to him. real nice and has no problem explaining anything. (although, real hard to understand:) and maybe not EVERYONE, but just saying)

so, the $15 is not a joke. he said the symbol change will be around the 28th-1st. He submitted some financials and forms and we should expect a PR within the next few days. He is still buying the float and will continue to do so until it is completely gone. They will be "going a different avenue" with the amazon project... to garbled to exactly understand him but he made it clear they *will* be doing that shortly.

and catia, he said he doesn't see any problem with going long. with projects coming up and trying to get onto the nasdaq...

i dunno what to say. i guess i may hold this till the symbol change haha.... this is crazy. dunno if i'm going to dump too much in, don't wanna be caught with my pants down;) but yeah... you guys be the judge....

Hate to say it but, I TOLD YOU SO! [Wink]
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
I just got off the phone with a Mr. Stanley.. ring a bell? [Smile]

Big PR coming this week.. related to credit line and amount of cash assets on hand.. stay tuned.. He said no plans for reverse split.. plan is that it runs from now until merger is complete. also said that they are buying the market back as we speak..

I believe now!!!! to $5 easily!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
10 I think we have another believer!

LOL..Cassity...you are knowing exactly what he is feeling...I'm not callin'...LOL
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
super nice guy... everyone should call and talk to him. real nice and has no problem explaining anything. (although, real hard to understand:) and maybe not EVERYONE, but just saying)

so, the $15 is not a joke. he said the symbol change will be around the 28th-1st. He submitted some financials and forms and we should expect a PR within the next few days. He is still buying the float and will continue to do so until it is completely gone. They will be "going a different avenue" with the amazon project... to garbled to exactly understand him but he made it clear they *will* be doing that shortly.

and catia, he said he doesn't see any problem with going long. with projects coming up and trying to get onto the nasdaq...

i dunno what to say. i guess i may hold this till the symbol change haha.... this is crazy. dunno if i'm going to dump too much in, don't wanna be caught with my pants down;) but yeah... you guys be the judge....

Thanks! Thats pretty much the same feel I had. I have already sold enough to cover my initial and im riding out the rest of my shares until merger. If i sell anymore he will just buy them up to save him the money later. Im staying!

Thanks again!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
oh... he hasn't called yet today to see how many are on the float. he said he was going to do so tonight or tomorrow. so i guess someone could call back tomorrow to figure out whats left on the float....
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
[/qb][/QUOTE]Hate to say it but, I TOLD YOU SO! [Wink] [/QB][/QUOTE]

Haha Cassity. I know how you feel, been wanting others to call all day. [Smile]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
10 just want to see us all score here, maybe a once in a lifetime oppertunity. GLTY
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Hey 10 or Cassity, could you all answer my question about the merger above? Thanks, appreciate it.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Looks like .64 will be our new support.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Cassity...i'm just playin'...
I know damn well that if I call...I will mortgage the house...so I am not callin'...LOL
[Wink]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
What I was told by the CEO(Rufus) after the 15 days from the filing of the 8k, the new ticker will start out at $15.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i'm not gonna get too wild otherwise we'll be labeled as pumpers:) but as you guys just said, i'm gonna encourage anyone with questions to seriously call the guy... 1-678-255-7650 ask for Ruf;)
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
cvsu isn't being traded as of yet. it will be traded 28jul-1aug...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
My personal feeling is through some pretty spectacular PR's the PPS will go to $15 on it's own. Rufus wants to trade above 15 which sounds crazy right now but he is not stupid. Bigger company than any of us know. Look at some of the contracts in line. Billions of dollars. Please don't buy on my DD, just my opinion.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
publicly that is...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
So do we get a 1:1 in CVSU on 28Jul-1Aug for our FHAL?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
If FHAL ceases to exist then do we get a 1:1 share in CVSU? I see CVSU is listed but with no volume. I didn't see this in the PRs unless I read too fast.

The way that I understand it we will continue as FHAL...
FHAL will merge with CVSU...and the CVSU will be "absorbed" into the FHAL share structure...and then continue to "trade" under FHAL...
Is this close anyone?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iloverufus:
I just got off the phone with a Mr. Stanley.. ring a bell? [Smile]

Big PR coming this week.. related to credit line and amount of cash assets on hand.. stay tuned.. He said no plans for reverse split.. plan is that it runs from now until merger is complete. also said that they are buying the market back as we speak..

I believe now!!!! to $5 easily!

anyone else got on the phone today??
wow.. awesome if they keep it up with the buying..
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
10... no, i talked about this with him. he said fhal will be the surviving company, however, cvsu will be the new ticker. why? i didn't ask. probably should have but... it doesn't make much sense to me either.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I don't want to sound like a pumper, but the last quote Rufus told someone on the Float was about 5 million. He thought it might be lower than that. Doniboy, GLTY with whatever you decide to do.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
pretty funny everyone is holding thier breath, including the mms, waiting for the EOD run, or sell off, id put my money on the run
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
10... no, i talked about this with him. he said fhal will be the surviving company, however, cvsu will be the new ticker. why? i didn't ask. probably should have but... it doesn't make much sense to me either.

I don't like that one...if CVSU isn't being traded...how can it start back up trading right away? I don't think that it can...
(I'm not saying that you are wrong I am saying that i see that as a problem...)
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Its hard to stay away with this much interest. I think that (and its my opinion only) if Rufus is telling the truth then what he is going to do is set the price at $15.00 and then buy a bunch of shares at that price, trying to maintain that level. Anyone agree? Disagree?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
well if the float is being bought up tomorrow like it is today... well, need i say more? thats a big *IF* ppl. DO NOT buy because of that statement. it's just a generalization made by me. i can't think of any other reason this shot like this besides the float being bought up and the 15 dollar proposal/rumor(rumor as it stands now;)....
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
10... no, i talked about this with him. he said fhal will be the surviving company, however, cvsu will be the new ticker. why? i didn't ask. probably should have but... it doesn't make much sense to me either.

I don't like that one...if CVSU isn't being traded...how can it start back up trading right away? I don't think that it can...
(I'm not saying that you are wrong I am saying that i see that as a problem...)

fhal will cease trading on the day prior close... and opening next day will be cvsu... as far as i understand it anyway
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Doniboy, honestly I bought another 10k today. Haven't sold a share. Thought it to good too be true, but makes a lot more sense to me now. Will have more ups and downs, always does. Make a decision you feel good about. Don't take anyone's advice. GLTY
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
same here i bought 9.5k more shares today at .32 and i thought i got ripped off.. lol..
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
just remember that share price is set by the market, not by the company. IPO's have set starting prices but they can fluctuate instantly as trading begins. This is not an IPO and if the stock doesnt steadily climb up to $15 by the ticker change, the market is not going to be buying a .75 stock for $15 overnight. Think about it, if CVSU has so much money then why would they not just buy up all the float right away and make a killing in 2 weeks if that was the case.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
true yayplaya... maybe we should have purl come in and share her wisdom;)

EDIT:but purl, don't cut us down too badly;) haha
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
they have to buy at the bid, every bid change gives them a buying oppertunity.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
WWPGD

What would Purl Gurl Do???
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
anyone know who he is using to buy up all the shares. If we knew then we could watch.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
In the July 12th Pr Rufus makes this statement;

"I strongly recommend that all shareholders calls for Hard copy certificates, due to FHAL near future name and symbol change," stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris

The next one to call Rufus should ask if "we" with FHAL need to do this...and what happens if we don't...this may be a loop whole of some sort...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
L2's?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
WWPGD

What would Purl Gurl Do???

she said stay away from this one. wonder if she took her own advise! it was in the teens when she said that!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Cass, 10 and anyone else. So lets see if I have this right.

The CEO will continue to buy up the float, raising share price to where he wants it, then around the end of the month we will switch from FHAL to CVSU with a share price around $15.

Does this sound right?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
anyone else wanna call the big man? i mean, he takes hundreds of calls a day... so you probably won't bother him too much;) i guess i could again if i must...
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
10, that applies to current cvsu holder, not FHAL
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
after all the crap she said about this stock, i doubt she'd have much to say in this thread...besides, she says the same about any stock..(p&d always)
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
In the July 12th Pr Rufus makes this statement;

"I strongly recommend that all shareholders calls for Hard copy certificates, due to FHAL near future name and symbol change," stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris

The next one to call Rufus should ask if "we" with FHAL need to do this...and what happens if we don't...this may be a loop whole of some sort...

I don't think so. My reasoning. He stated in the interview that he said this so the stock could not be shorted. Also people have asked that question as well. JMO
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I think that PG also said she could be wrong...and she was giving us a warning...to be careful...and we still should proceed with caution!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
3 x .665 Bid

1 x .67 Ask
1 x .68
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
View, nite, ubss on bid
tdcm on ask
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
If FHAL ceases to exist then do we get a 1:1 share in CVSU? I see CVSU is listed but with no volume. I didn't see this in the PRs unless I read too fast.

The way that I understand it we will continue as FHAL...
FHAL will merge with CVSU...and the CVSU will be "absorbed" into the FHAL share structure...and then continue to "trade" under FHAL...
Is this close anyone?

Yes, it sounded to me like it will be FHAL. This is how he gets into Nasdaq easily, and quite cheap i understand.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
let them play :-)
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
TDCM can suck nuts
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
EOD shake.. a healthy pullback.. hopefully..
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
so... hard copy question, who's he trading with... any other questions?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
today may be the last chance to buy this under a buck!
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
hopefully healthy enough of a pullback for those of us who sold to jump back in
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
hey guys, havent done my DD on this one yet but eod opinions...
go in before tomorrow or wait for the 100% daily dust to settle?
~BB
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
Cass, 10 and anyone else. So lets see if I have this right.

The CEO will continue to buy up the float, raising share price to where he wants it, then around the end of the month we will switch from FHAL to CVSU with a share price around $15.

Does this sound right?

My understanding was he is not raising the price that way. Just buying cheap shares. Pay .2-.8 for shares or $15. By buying the float up and releasing news I believe the stock only has one way to go. JMO P.S I hope we have a nice JUICY PR. tomorrow.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
P rowds...after the merger what will the trade symbol be? If CVSU will it then be a pink sheet only? Or how long will the paper work take to get the trading up and running? What's the process?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
good volume today... looks to be second highest all time so far... 3 mil yesterday and 14 today. crazy......
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
man im confused.
which is the company to buy in to...
CVSU or FHAL?

i cant read 68 pages in 15 minutes [Frown]

~BB

[edit : ok only fhal is valid [Wink] ]
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
Buy FHAL
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
good volume today... looks to be second highest all time so far... 3 mil yesterday and 14 today. crazy......

Yeah...rather high for a 5 million float??????
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
cant buy cvsu...only fhal...the way its starting to drop, i'd be alittle weary of buyin right now though
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
P rowds...after the merger what will the trade symbol be? If CVSU will it then be a pink sheet only? Or how long will the paper work take to get the trading up and running? What's the process?

it will be cvsu... they are planning on going to nasdaq as far as previous callers say, i can ask however. but there are certain qualifications a company must have in order to do that... i don't know em but probably look them up somewhere...

are there any questions anyone else has?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
man im confused.
which is the company to buy in to...
CVSU or FHAL?

CVSU doesn't trade right now. FHAL will trade under the ticker CVSU in a couple of days.


~BB

[edit : ok only fhal is valid [Wink] ]


 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
man im confused.
which is the company to buy in to...
CVSU or FHAL?

i cant read 68 pages in 15 minutes [Frown]

~BB

[edit : ok only fhal is valid [Wink] ]

CVSU appears to be a privately held company, the reason for the merger is to expedite thier shift to a publicly held company. from what i have been able to glean they will be shifting to NASDAQ asap when the merger is complete and trading begins.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
5 mil is just a rumor... i asked rufus what it was and he was unsure... he didn't call to see what it was at yet. as of yesterday i thought it was in the teens????
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
is everyone in at .30 (yeah i was out all day dangit)?
or did some get in around .65?

~BB
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
in at .175 and .235..... i was trying to get in at .135 but that never filled. closed at .16 that day and never looked back haha... i'm retarded... [Razz]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
I just bought in...so you aren't alone...

ha...i sold at .16 how dumb you think i feel...
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
Too much resistance at .7
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
in at .19 out at .50 back in with my profits at .67
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
you're out Prowds? Then why do you keep calling the company???
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
no no... i'm not out... thats when i got in and i'm still in
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
mms have gathered alot of shares in the 65-70 area oh man
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Well Doniboy what's up DOC?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
was saying i was retarded because i shoulda bought it at .14 instead of being greedy with .135.......

ok, so questions...

nasdaq?

12jul pr stated something about hard copy for shareholders... what if we don't?

who are you trading through?

those are the ones so far ppl have brought up... anyone else have any others?
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
man im confused.
which is the company to buy in to...
CVSU or FHAL?

i cant read 68 pages in 15 minutes [Frown]

~BB

[edit : ok only fhal is valid [Wink] ]

CVSU appears to be a privately held company, the reason for the merger is to expedite thier shift to a publicly held company. from what i have been able to glean they will be shifting to NASDAQ asap when the merger is complete and trading begins.
yes, this is how I understand it . . . and the ticker will change to CVSU.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
bought back in with my unsettled profits so i have to hold for at least three days! nothing is certain in this market but it shure looks good!!
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Got in at .21, feeling good right now! GLTA
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
we should hire cheerleaders who sing " GO RUFUS, GO RUFUS" maybe he even buys more shares then
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
mms have gathered alot of shares in the 65-70 area oh man

Let's hope they let it run EOD
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Waiting Cassity. Don't want to make an emotional decision. I made good money so far. I have the trigger ready to be pulled, but I want to see what happens at EOD, run or sell-off. No matter what I am keeping my capital out, so if I do go back in it will be with profits.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *********06:
we should hire cheerleaders who sing " GO RUFUS, GO RUFUS" maybe he even buys more shares then

LMAO!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
It doesn't seem to matter how many people call and confirm, people will always doubt(which is ok) maybe more questions can be answered. Call'em up dogg!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
cmon baby push us towards 75
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
by the way,my next dog will get the name RUFUS,is this gets to 15 dollars i promise i will place a tattoo "rufus" on my arm
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
If I get $15, I'll change my dogs name to Rufus!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
here we go building some steam now
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
HERE WE GO!!!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
chew through 70 and we are golden
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'M BACK IN BABY!!!! LOOKS LIKE EOD RUN TO ME!!!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
I thought about calling but everyone who claims to have called got the same respones and they even asked the right questions!! LOL! this is looking very good indeed! if he is in fact buying up the float as he claims the lower it gets the faster the price will climb witch makes 5,6,7+ bucks a share seem very possible!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
thx for picking me up at 69 rite before u started chewing [Smile]

[naturally we then see 68]

~BB
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
and it goes down...lol
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
its really having trouble building steam here
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Thats because I pulled the trigger. the next buy after mine went down..lol.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Head fake Doniboy, it's on it's way back up.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I think a good buy in point might be .59

Jo

Edited to add: Or not! Pretty nice close for you guys that held!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
B/A are constantly changing on small numbers of shares bought or sold indicating to me the float is LOW and getting LOWER!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
ouch...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
well im not around tomorrow, so at least i know im in, albeit not quite where i wanted.

one PR from here and 69 will be a very magic number [Wink]

glta!
~BB
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
.645 close
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
at least it ended on an uptick...

even though I'm down, lol...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Great day. Hope for a tremendous PR in the morning and a even better day. Chat with y'all in the PM.
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
Awesome Day folks, see ya tomorrow!!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
ouch...

up 148 percent on the day not enough for you! LOL!! mutch more to come! stay tuned!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha, not bad madmoney... i was just saying at the end there... thought she was gonna close a lil lower than it did... my bad:D
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
trades printed after the bell 1 each at .63, .645,.67 and .69
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Sorry for the close guys. The little devil who watches my trades saw me buy back in and dipped it on ya. Oh well 140+% is good lol.
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
good close. I feel for those who bought at .82ish. oh well, if this does go to 7 dollars or even 15 it will be well worth it. good luck to us all.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
What did EOD mean to you guys? Any predictions for tomorrow? (I know we're all tired but I'm still pumped up)
 
Posted by Dynamite on :
 
Do you guys really see FHAL reaching dollars?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Well it reached .82 today on no news. So dollars are not unheard of here, and soon.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
All, this was posted on another website and is an example of a merger like the one we are in.

http://www.shellstockreview.com/ssr-The-Anatomy-of-a-Shell-Stock.html
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
How come SXML is no longer a symbol?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Here is another example

SPEA was bought out in a reverse merger for its corporate shell: the result- a penny stock traded up to $15...

http://www.elvis.com/news/full_story.asp?id=755
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
How come SXML is no longer a symbol?

Here's why:
http://www.idealliance.org/news/2002/mem0314.asp
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i believe, don't quote me doniboy... but i looked a little bit but seems they merged again with corel corporation...
http://www.idealliance.org/news/2002/mem0314.asp

dunno for sure... trading at 10 dollars or so...

EDIT: trading under CREL now... if that article is right...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
HAHA mtpromises... good timing:)
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
the chart is just crazy looking, we've formed a true three outside up pattern, also called a separating lines patter. Not to mention that the stochs are barely above 50. We arent oversold and all signs point to north


http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=FHAL&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p62674186470
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Where are river rat and Tex, I'd like to hear their take.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
HAHA mtpromises... good timing:)

yah, I got a chuckle out of that, also.

Interesting isn't it, though? In 2000, no one had probably heard of that company. They go through a reverse merger and two years later they're acquired by a very well known company.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'm glad I took out my capital, but when I do the dream math of $15 per share it doesn't look as good...lol. Oh well, I'll still be happy...
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
if they are buying up the float and if there are only a few million in public hands at merger time then 15 dollars a share for whats left sounds possible. thinking it IS possible we break 2 bucks by weeks end. next week is the last full week before the symbol change maybe 7 to 10 by next friday.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
These examples kinda turn "impossible" into, at the very least, improbable for us in FHAL. I only say improbable because i dont want to cry when it doesnt happen, but i digress.

Anyway, situations like this do happen...we just dont want to believe its happening to us, until it happens. Shoot ive already decided to leave at least 1000 shares in AFTER the merger and im still sitting in dream land, but again i digress.........


[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I wish it was 9:29 Wednesday morning [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
These examples kinda turn "impossible" into, at the very least, improbable for us in FHAL. I only say improbable because i dont want to cry when it doesnt happen, but i digress.

Anyway, situations like this do happen...we just dont want to believe its happening to us, until it happens. Shoot ive already decided to leave at least 1000 shares in AFTER the merger and im still sitting in dream land, but again i digress.........


[Big Grin]

catia, you have to believe to some extent . . . otherwise you'll never put yourself in a position to realize the dream. If your playing with profits (or only some of the profits) then your downside is known and obviously quite limited compared to the potential of seeing $15/share . . . risk-reward - that's the game. See you on the beach with ice cold Coronas. We can have a nerdy engineering discussion and also talk about how FHAL made us all Irish by taking a transportation company that had a multi-billion dollar sunken log contract and unexpectingly merged it with a company loaded with assets. Gotta love life - you never know what you'll run into when you try.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
wow...nice day!

congrats...
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
$15 for my shares.. not a penny less not a penny more [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
I will purchase at the open...but I just have the feeling it isn't going up tomorrow..and we won't be at $1-$10 by merger time.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Then why will you buy?

quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
I will purchase at the open...but I just have the feeling it isn't going up tomorrow..and we won't be at $1-$10 by merger time.


 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
It's called regret...if everyone truly gets $15 per share, ill never let it go. So a small buy of like $500 worth wont kill me...and wont make me regret a possible huge gain.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I hear ya. I bought back into the dream after a great run. Too much potential right now.

quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
It's called regret...if everyone truly gets $15 per share, ill never let it go. So a small buy of like $500 worth wont kill me...and wont make me regret a possible huge gain.


 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
It's called regret...if everyone truly gets $15 per share, ill never let it go. So a small buy of like $500 worth wont kill me...and wont make me regret a possible huge gain.

if they do get 15 a share you would be holding a 23 to 2500 percent gain! not a bad plan! GLTY and to us all!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:

[Big Grin] [/qb]

catia, you have to believe to some extent . . . otherwise you'll never put yourself in a position to realize the dream. If your playing with profits (or only some of the profits) then your downside is known and obviously quite limited compared to the potential of seeing $15/share . . . risk-reward - that's the game. See you on the beach with ice cold Coronas. We can have a nerdy engineering discussion and also talk about how FHAL made us all Irish by taking a transportation company that had a multi-billion dollar sunken log contract and unexpectingly merged it with a company loaded with assets. Gotta love life - you never know what you'll run into when you try. [/QB][/QUOTE]

Yes, MT you are 100% correct. I believe in this like ive never believed in anything, and this is my FIRST real "Short term" investment EVER! Im hesitant yes, but i guess that comes with the territory. But, anyway, the Coronas are on me....see you there!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
And for the record, I got this stock tip on Allstocks.com

THANK YOU EVERYONE!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Congrats Catia, glad your first short term investment worked out so well (and maybe even better soon), just don't think that they all work out this way..lol. For every person who made money on big stocks there is someone who held the bag.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Congrats Catia, glad your first short term investment worked out so well (and maybe even better soon), just don't think that they all work out this way..lol. For every person who made money on big stocks there is someone who held the bag.

Thanks. And yes, i know i could very well be in a one in a million shot here so i dont really expect this to happen again. Im not sure i will ever buy a penny stock again....ive already hit my 1 in a million. LOL

Brain mush......gnight
 
Posted by Bland on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
In the July 12th Pr Rufus makes this statement;

"I strongly recommend that all shareholders calls for Hard copy certificates, due to FHAL near future name and symbol change," stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris

The next one to call Rufus should ask if "we" with FHAL need to do this...and what happens if we don't...this may be a loop whole of some sort...

I spoke to Rufus before he came on my radio show and he said that all share holders need to get a hard copy....

Stinson Bland
Market News First
469.385.9855 X845
 
Posted by Bland on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
anyone else wanna call the big man? i mean, he takes hundreds of calls a day... so you probably won't bother him too much;) i guess i could again if i must...

I can most likely get Rufus back on my show... if you guys want to gather a list of questions, we'll get them answered on the show.

Stinson Bland
Market News First
469.385.9855 X845
stinon****.com
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
Wait, hardcopy certificates of what? And who do we call for that?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Hey Doniboy, ya know the biggest kicker to all of this? Im already P'd off how much im gonna owe in taxes next year!!!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
That doesnt sound right. My shares are kept "at the broker" by my agreement. The broker therefor has already effected delivery. Second, think about the logistics of having several thousand, if not more, certs to have ready within one day for this stock (assuming that they wait to print until the day of the change). Hard copy certs i do not believe are required.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bland:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
In the July 12th Pr Rufus makes this statement;

"I strongly recommend that all shareholders calls for Hard copy certificates, due to FHAL near future name and symbol change," stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris

The next one to call Rufus should ask if "we" with FHAL need to do this...and what happens if we don't...this may be a loop whole of some sort...

I spoke to Rufus before he came on my radio show and he said that all share holders need to get a hard copy....

Stinson Bland
Market News First
469.385.9855 X845

Hmmm, so far this was believed to apply to CVSU shareholders. I talked to a Rep at Etrade today to make sure my buns were covered and they didnt meantion this. I think i will call them again in the morning. Everyone should, we're not talking peanuts here.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
He stated CVSU shareholders:
From the pr:

Attention CVSU Shareholders, Note Holders and Option Holders; Please see Shareholder update on our website, www.cvsu.us. Each individual will be required to complete the Form of Affiliate to achieve share exchange under the Merger Agreement.

"I strongly recommend that all shareholders calls for Hard copy certificates, due to FHAL near future name and symbol change," stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
just got off the phone with Rufus...

"The hard copy certificates are for CVSU shareholders only."

"We *will* be going to nasdaq, that was one of the main reasons for the merger..."

hope that answers some questions. surprised he's still there...
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
Do you guys put in a 'stop' order in case it drops tomorrow? Or just hold as is?
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
it will go higher tomorrow,maybe some dips but i think we close above a dollar today...time is running out untill the next pr and then it will be party time
 
Posted by JohnDoe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruskin_muskin:
$15 for my shares.. not a penny less not a penny more [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

DAMN nice to hear those words from [Big Grin]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
Do you guys put in a 'stop' order in case it drops tomorrow? Or just hold as is?

can you do stop orders with pennies?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
Do you guys put in a 'stop' order in case it drops tomorrow? Or just hold as is?

can you do stop orders with pennies?
no
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
Do you guys put in a 'stop' order in case it drops tomorrow? Or just hold as is?

can you do stop orders with pennies?
no
I thought Choicetrade allowed this... could be wrong though, anyone?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
don't think so... i could be wrong as well but almost positive you can't with pennies...
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
yeah I just checked it, only stocks higher than $1, my bad [Wink]
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
I can only use limit and market orders with Ameritrade on Bulletin Board stocks, I tried using a stop limit or trailing stop, and it said I had to use either limit or market orders.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
How many people have called, how many people have been told, how does the 8k read, it's like having mini PR's everyday. Do I think we'll see $15 a share. At this point I do. Rufus is smart, has a good business, doesn't care about a bunch of penny players, he wants the NAS. Big Board BABY! How will it all work, we'll soon find out. If we didn't already have the 8k, I would have been out a week ago. To much liabilty. Phone calls, interviews and in my opinion, PR's to describe how it all comes together. Everyone just CHILL! Let's enjoy this day and let tomorrow worry about itself. If you want to sell, do it, don't listen to anyone. This my friends is just my opinion, but tomorrow will be great.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'm with ya Cassity, got back in (though if I waited 5 more minutes I could have saved a couple of hundred dollars) Oh well, hopefully after tomorrow it won't matter. I am on FREE SHARES BABY!!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Cassity...remember I said nothing anyone can say will make me believe it? Am I allowed to change my mind? [Big Grin] [Confused]

This is lookin' pretty darn good! Even if it doesn't hit that $15 it's going to keep on movin' up...!!!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
its a woman's perogative to change her mind 10 [Big Grin]
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
Do you guys put in a 'stop' order in case it drops tomorrow? Or just hold as is?

can you do stop orders with pennies?
I got a stop order in for .57

The stop price has to be .05 below current price when you make it.
At least with ETRADE it is.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Could I actually get $15 for my shares??? It seems so impossible. Well if it does I will actually be upset that I protected my investment today. Oh well, I'll still make out amazingly.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
its a woman's perogative to change her mind 10 [Big Grin]

I am not a "typical" woman...and this is not a "typical" stock! LOL... [Smile]

I still reserve the right to change my mind..although...I haven't yet...
If there is no $15.00 pps...this is still an awesome play...even if it only goes to a few bucks...well worth it! [Big Grin]

Come on 9:30 a.m.!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I remember the first post I read about the $15 pps. I thought that guy was a real jacka$$. Heard another report, and another and another. I call, I talk, I believe! When I was in NDOL, I was one nervous SOB, called the company talk to some lying ahole, makes me look like a lying ahole. They tell us 2.17 a share and the next week, out of nowhere tell us we decided to merge(it would be best for the shareholders) BS. We are not judging the value of FHAL here(it's a piece of sheet), it's CVSU. CVSU is saving TIME by using FHAL. I can't wait to see how this plays out. All I have to say in the famous words of "RUFUS" it's all in the 8k. O.K no more talking from me. Enjoy the ride, next stop 15 BONES.
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
Since I have no clue how to read the charts (yet,but getting there.....) and I respect a lot of peoples opinions here can someone tell me if there are any gaps that need to fill tomorrow after the day we had today?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Cassity..you were in on NDOL? did they file an 8k? or was that whole thing all done on "empty PR's" from the company?

The 8k filing seems to be the key to the "difference" from allot of other scam stuff...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
Do you guys put in a 'stop' order in case it drops tomorrow? Or just hold as is?

can you do stop orders with pennies?
Yes, Choicetrade offers Stop-limit orders, not trailing stops, though...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
NDOL started with a buyout RUMOR. After about a month and half of waiting they came out and said they were going to pay 2.17 a share to us. ONE weekend passes and suddenly they change to a merger. It took several weeks for them to finally file the 8k and by then the stock was at about .35. I bought at .21 and rode it to 1.50 and back down to .85 were I sold. Pissed me off though, my dad took money out of savings and bought some NDOL at 1.40. He's still holding. If this thing pays out $15, I'm paying him back for opening my mouth, not to mention buying both parents a nice vacation. I hope this works out like I think it will. You can do a lot of nice things for people with that kind of money.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Oh to answer your question 10, EMPTY PR's.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
NDOL was all rumor, and nothing but rumor. But I will never bad mouth it because I got in at .22 (originally) and out at $1.22.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Don't know if this has been posted but the update on Pinksheets show the info from CVSU.


FHAL -- Fronthaul Group, Inc. (The)
Com ($0.001)

Search for Dun & Bradstreet reports on this company.

Address:
125 Town Park
Suite 300
Kennesaw, GA 30145
USA


Website: http://www.cvsu.us
Phone: 678-255-7650

Business Description:
CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSUs's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market.

State of Incorporation: Delaware

Country of Incorporation: USA

Officers:
Rufus Paul Harris, President/CEO; Darryl Horton, CFO; Randy Moseley, Executive VP

Outstanding Shares: 62,157,721 as of 2006-03-01

Estimated Market Cap: Not Available

Current Capital Change:
shs decreased by 1 for 5 split
Ex-Date:
Record Date:
Pay Date: 2004-08-26

Dividends:

Company Notes:
Formerly=Furia, Oringer Productions, Inc. to 12-86
Formerly=Furia Organization, Inc. (The) until 5-06

Class Notes:
New Issue=5-85 3,300,000 shs at $1 (best efforts-2,000,000 min.) by Silver, Gray & Co., Inc.
Note=11-18-05 company completed a Securities Purchase Agreement for $2,500,000 that may be converted into an estimated 15,909,091 shares of common stock at current prices and outstanding warrants to purchase 3,500,000 shares of common stock at $.25 per share.

Transfer Agent:
Integrity Stock Transfer, Las Vegas, NV 89120

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=fhal
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nu2This:
Since I have no clue how to read the charts (yet,but getting there.....) and I respect a lot of peoples opinions here can someone tell me if there are any gaps that need to fill tomorrow after the day we had today?

No new gap.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nu2This:
Since I have no clue how to read the charts (yet,but getting there.....) and I respect a lot of peoples opinions here can someone tell me if there are any gaps that need to fill tomorrow after the day we had today?

small small gap at .135-.14 that never filled and don't think it will. there were talks about a gap at .27 or .28 or something but when i looked at the chart (i'm not a pro or anything) i didn't see one. you can see them through scottrade or go to nasdaq and look at the OHLC 3 month chart for FHAL and you can see the gaps your self. i used trend lines on my scottrade account to bring lines over and only gap i can see is at .135-.14 if you look at the opening "proposed" one for today it appears, to me anyway, there is no gap. GL and hopefully this keeps on truckin with the big man buying the rest of the float up. guess we'll see tomorrow and i'm gonna be dreamin about logs being recovered out of the amazon;)
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'm gonna drop a log, and dream about a new house for my new daughter (due in October) [Smile]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Sweet dreams kiddies, we'll see ya in the mornin to do it again!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I'm gonna drop a log, and dream about a new house for my new daughter (due in October) [Smile]

Congrats!!!!

Sleep well all!!!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Damn it..I don't trust this..I'm just goign to put in a measly $500 in tomorrow, and let it ride...still nice change if we get $15
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
That would be about $11K stocktrader. That's certainly nothing to scoff at... Good luck.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
if this really does go to 15 dollars then that would be something i've NEVER seen before. Ive never seen a stock go from from 8 cents to 15 dollars in such a short time span, and thats probably why most people still dont believe it. We already have a 10 bagger for those who held from 8 cents, so I guess anything is possible at this stage.
GLTA tomorrow!!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
How many people have called, how many people have been told, how does the 8k read, it's like having mini PR's everyday. Do I think we'll see $15 a share. At this point I do. Rufus is smart, has a good business, doesn't care about a bunch of penny players, he wants the NAS. Big Board BABY! How will it all work, we'll soon find out. If we didn't already have the 8k, I would have been out a week ago. To much liabilty. Phone calls, interviews and in my opinion, PR's to describe how it all comes together. Everyone just CHILL! Let's enjoy this day and let tomorrow worry about itself. If you want to sell, do it, don't listen to anyone. This my friends is just my opinion, but tomorrow will be great.

well said cassity, well said
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
I hope this works out like I think it will. You can do a lot of nice things for people with that kind of money. [/QB]

We're on the same page there. I was just contemplating how much I'd donate to church and I talked to my brother tonight that could use some help getting his feet under him. I'd love to be in a position to help out!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
I hope this works out like I think it will. You can do a lot of nice things for people with that kind of money.

We're on the same page there. I was just contemplating how much I'd donate to church and I talked to my brother tonight that could use some help getting his feet under him. I'd love to be in a position to help out! [/QB]
I'm in the same boat with you my friend. I go to a small church, and my brother is just starting to get on his feet after some personal problems. You hit the nail on the head. I don't dream about fancy cars, houses, boats etc. I love trading, not just for the money but the challege, research, intensity, the hole bag, but the money if I'm fortunate enough to make some, doesn't just belong to me. I've seen how fast it comes and goes, but there are eternal investments to be made.(if you know what I mean) I'll get off the box now, but I'm going to call Rufus one more time tomorrow. I have a nagging thought in my head that I'm sure you all do to0. How is this all going to work(I want details if he can provide them) Hopefully a PR tomorrow will clear some things up, but if we don't get one I'll be chatting with him in the A.M. Goodnight!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 

 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hey cass, who knows maybe a PR by today but i doubt it. yesterday he made it sound like it would be a few days. but if you call ask what the float is... he didn't know yesterday and when i called about the hard copies for the stock i forgot to ask...
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
.65 x .68 - Gapper
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
walymac posted some stuff from pinksheets several posts ago...last week did pinksheets have all of CVSU's filings posted? because I don't rmember them being there...and now there is...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Good morning People. Are we ready for an FHAL explosion???
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
any opening numbers??????
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Now

3 x .67 Bid

2 x .69 Ask
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
Stocks to Watch for Wednesday, July 19, 2006: IMHI -- I-Media Agrees to Acquire Bidchaser and Acquisition of E-Commerce Services Set to Generate Revenues in Current Quarter!
NOTE TO EDITORS: The Following Is an Investment Opinion Being Issued by Market Pulse.
Jul 19, 2006 8:55:00 AM
ATLANTA, GA -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 07/19/06 -- Market Pulse is pleased to introduce our featured stock, Integrated Media Holding, Inc. (OTCBB: IMHI), to the investment community! Integrated Media is new to Market Pulse and is poised to become a significant player in the digital and media technology industry! IMHI has had several excellent news announcements out lately and one again before today's opening bell announcing that it has signed a definitive agreement to acquire Orlando, Florida-based Bidchaser, Inc., a global online auction and e-commerce company! The company also announced that this acquisition is expected to generate revenues in the current quarter! This could be great news for investors! Other notable stocks that should be watched because they look great lately from a fundamental and technical perspective include:

Oracle Corp. (NASDAQ: ORCL): Market Outperform

Fronthaul Group Inc. (OTCBB: FHAL): Attractive

Yahoo! Inc. (NASDAQ: YHOO): Bearish

Recommendation Meanings

These recommendations are investment opinions of Market-Pulse.com and reflect the stock's potential to move over the next one to four weeks of trading. This analysis is done from a technical and fundamental perspective.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
.68 x .69
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
Unbelievable how FHAL's performing. I originally got in back in June because of the Amazon deal. Never guessed that this reverse merger would take the pps this high up so quickly, but the proof is in the 8-K. Made a good bit of green with it, but definitely got out too early -- ah well, live and learn. GLTA!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Yup, me too. Got out to early but still made 50% profit which is ALWAYS nice. I'll hold off for now cause the charts RSI is quite high.
For the daily - 84.28
weekly - 79.5

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=FHAL&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p11556552438
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Ask dropping a bit. Anyone venture a good entry point for today?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I took my profits out Scribbler, but am still riding. It doesn't look over to me.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
moving up! AGAIN!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
JUST THE BEGINNING! IMO
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I think we just missed the good entry point of the day [Smile] .
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
RUN BABY!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Dang, I had it set for .69, but missed that. to chase or not to chase....
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
No way is this one over, Doniboy. Ride it well into next week, if it's doable.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
if they keep buying the float the price will keep going up! MM`s cant keep up with the rising price!! WOW!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Today we break a $1, I'm going to give Rufus a little time. I'll call in an hour. I'm to lazy to put a list together, but if you have questions, get them ready and I'll ask. By the way did you all just see THAT!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i think i'm in love...

hey cass, when you think your gonna call if no PR?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
OK first wall is 77 I guess....
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha, good timing cass... [Smile]
 
Posted by scribbler on :
 
MMM, I made out with 150%, but that's looking like chump change now!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Has anyone ever seen L2's do this before(I got my Scottrade back) Look at vol. today and price. HE'S BUYING IT UP BABY!!!!
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
I do believe this is called an A.M. gapper!!!!!!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
a million shares already
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
When we break a dollar, think about all the signals that will set off. More money coming in! Am I a little-GETTY. Heck YA!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
this will close above a dollar today imo..
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *********06:
this will close above a dollar today imo..

I agree! cant wait for next week! and it`s only wednesday!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
If I was a pattern daytrader I would have already made a fortune today.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
at this point every significant dip is a buying oppertunity!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
a million shares already

yeah, thats crazy!

wausau, sconse eh? grew up in northern wisconsin... bout 45 to an hour away from wausau
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I'm kinda glad to see people sell, if Rufus is buying it all up, we'll get thinner and thinner, just like a anorexic school girl! SWEEEEET!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
woo hoo, I didn't chase and I got in at .67 .

Jo
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
sells above ask...bids above asks..this is CRAZY!!!!!!!!

WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
We're going over .8 right now!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
I'm kinda glad to see people sell, if Rufus is buying it all up, we'll get thinner and thinner, just like a anorexic school girl! SWEEEEET!

LMAO!!!

congrats jo... hopefully we rocket today so you can cover some previous losses!!!!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
a million shares already

yeah, thats crazy!

wausau, sconse eh? grew up in northern wisconsin... bout 45 to an hour away from wausau

yep, been in Wausau 11 years. A LOT has changed here in that time. Very nice city. But I'm moving to Minneapolis in mid-August to try big city life and a new career. What city you from? I grew up in little ol' Stanley.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
3 CENT JUMP IN ONE TRADE.........
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
.8's are very thin!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
I LOVE THIS!!! HAHAHA

grew up in a town called townsend... neighboring towns would be lakewood, wabeno, mountain, laona.... dunno if any ring a bell
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
WhhooooHHOOOOO!!!! Keep it movin'!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Why do I have to have a dentist appointment at 10:30? LOL.

Don't know if I want to set a GTC sell before I go or not.

Jo
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
this will break a dollar in minutes! not hours! non stop from here!!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
THE SKY IS THE LIMIT for FHAL
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Congrats Jo, did you go all in again or did you remember to protect your investment?
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
man, 0.88!!!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i will correct myself, this will close above 1,5 dollars lol
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'm curious...will this have a huge retrace...back into the high seventies low eighties perhaps? just wondering if the upward trend can be sustained going this fast?
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
now i also believe that 15 dollar story...if rufus buys up the entire float 15 is realistic
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
if Rufus is buying it up, then I'd say yes we can sustain this
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
A wild ride here today...GLTA
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
This will close 1.50 or higher. All hold no limit stock game here.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
cass when are ya gonna call? cuz i gotta know what the float is... i'm about to pick up my phone right now!!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Congrats Jo, did you go all in again or did you remember to protect your investment?

I took my profits and added an equal amount to that, so no, I guess I haven't protected my investment yet, but I'm thinking about it right now. Bad, bad, jo

Jo
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
.9's very thin!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Its like printing money....
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
DONIBOY, are you glad you got back in!
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
WOW!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
the way this is moving and the way the L2`s are bouncing around on this volume the float must be getting pretty low!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
If you want to call PRowds go ahead, I was going to give him a minute to wake up.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'm slightly happy Cass...LOL!!!!!!!!!!

I now have to forget about the larger number of shares I would have had and just be happy with what I got. The smart play is not always the best [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Jo..take your capital back out.... [Wink]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
small dip, if you want in you better hurry, because we are going to $1.00 right now!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I'm slightly happy Cass...LOL!!!!!!!!!!

I now have to forget about the larger number of shares I would have had and just be happy with what I got. The smart play is not always the best [Smile]

even a small number of shares are going to be worth alot of money this time next week!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
they gotta be buying.. it's going so fast.. as we get higher, it will just go faster.. and they'll probably try to finish buying as soon as possible to get a bargain.. and the faster we go up
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
jeese how predictable are these little pullbacks now...pattern guys are gonna make a FORTUNE today...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I know Madmoney, I was just kidding. This thing is making my year!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Hi everyone...great show!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
higher lows and higher highs!! the uptrend continues!!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Q if you have scotrade can ya sell if ur trades havedn't been settled or do u have to stay for the 3 days? Thanks anyone...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
10 what's up with CHDT, SOB is droppin like a rock. Glad I sold at .2 the other day! Prowds, did you call? ARE you going to?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Going to the dentist now, please be over $1.50 when I get back. Might make getting fillings less painful.

Jo
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
If you think we're movin now, wait until we hit $1. So thin to that point and even thinner after!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
SWEEEET JESUS!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
good phone call?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
We hit something at .90 and bounce back? Any good chart readers awake yet this morning? [Smile]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
What's up Prowds?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
I just talked to Ben Stanley because Rufus didn't answer. He said that right now the book value of CVSU and FHAL is 7.1 something (what was listed in the PR...) and he said when symbol changes the standard multiplier is 3...? I asked a little bit on it and he said, thats just the way it is. It is 3 times the book value. so he just told me that it should open at 21...? haha, this is ridiculous. he wasn't sure as of what the float is right now but he said it was 13mil. He doesn't expect much dilution because they already implemented a "buy-back" program...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
if you guys don't believe me call yourself... i dunno why it went from 15 to 21 or what the number is but... hey, thats pretty damn awesome...

EDIT: Ben Stanley's # 317-213-7700
Rufus Harris # 678-255-7650
I didn't ask about 15dollars someone should probably do that. i was just too excited to ask why stock figures aren't matching up...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Donniboy aren't u in for 3 days because of scottrades' 3 day waiting? Thanks
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
jeese...if it really goes that high...i'll let my girlfriend move into the new house i'll be buying, lol...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
10 what's up with CHDT, SOB is droppin like a rock. Glad I sold at .2 the other day! Prowds, did you call? ARE you going to?

went up to quick last week...just settling..IMO...it will move north again..I hope..LOL
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
0.94 long trigger on high volume

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
guess my buy at .69 wasnt so shabby after all [Big Grin]

wow, its weird to be i a stock that you dont have to put a bunch of zerooooos in front of LOL

~BB
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I JUST GOT OUT OF THE SHOWER... WOW!!!!!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
oh yeah, he also said *audited* financials will be out soon too... 2 more days before the weekend... hmmmm, wonder if they release some things this week. would be nice so the pps doesn't take a hit on friday...
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
a dollar is comming fast!!!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
HOLY SH$T just got back from a meeting to see this jeezus!
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
Look! out there just over the horizon, I see $1 and it's coming fast!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Seems if everyone takes ashower it keeps flying lol.... [Smile]
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
up 718.7% on the .119 buy in.........Half way to the sell point!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Over a dollar we go! Yepeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
This thing is the real deal!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
ONE FRIGGIN DOLLAR [Big Grin]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
ladies and gents... 1 DOLLAR!!!!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
by the time i finish typing this post we will have hit a dollar!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
1.00 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
$1.00 ask....hot darn!
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
Seems if everyone takes ashower it keeps flying lol.... [Smile]

I only take them on saturday's . Cant help y'all
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
!!!!!11111ONEELEVEN!!!!111
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so how many alerts and bells and cannons and little messenger boys are going crazy right now?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
yes this is the real deal, im now a believer, $15 here we come
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Tyleemary when you do it'll it 10.00 lol :0
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
a five hundred dollar investment now could be worth five thousand or more this time next week!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
yes this is the real deal, im now a believer, $15 here we come

I may have to agree with you....!!!!

Move it!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
all i hear in my head is convooooooooooooooy...
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
this will hit 15 dollar at the day of the pr next week, we will open at 15 dollars with CVSU shares and then we even go higher imo
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I wouldn't be suprised to see $2 today honestly, This will move through dollars very quickly. HOLY MOLy!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
once in a lifetime opportunity here
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think Rufus just bought a butt load more, anyone else see that on their L2's!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
was it like 100k?
 
Posted by Homersbud on :
 
Weeeeeeeeeeeee!
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Someone dropped $25,000 on FHAL. Jeez!! Investors know this is a great buy..even at $1
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
what do the l2's look like?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I bet the MM's are sheeting their pants trying to get shares, sell if you want but your screwin yourself in my OPINION!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
not to put the cart before the horse, but with some of the comments relayed back from Rufus about "life beyond $15", I may have a hard time selling at $15 if there is a lot of potential for it to continue beyond.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
1.05 x 7

1.06 x 1
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
next stop 1.10!!!! and that wont last long! should see 1.30 - 1.40 easy today!!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
comin up ona 1.10
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
I bought 7k shares * .19

Wish I had had more money to play with at the time.

Word of advice ::

DO NOT let your wife know what this thing is doing.

Mine is looking in a car magazine now. MISTAKE !!

No, i am not a girl, Tyleemary is my 5yr olds name.
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
Ok people, how many bags are we holdng? sittin on 10k at .119, lovin it.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
11 mm's at 1.06 or better on the bid
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Absolute monster.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
ha...this actually beat their high last May!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
31k at .18!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Did anyone get in under .10?
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
what is pushing this stock??
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
what is pushing this stock??

It's going to be worth $15
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
magical fairies...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
we break through 1.10 and we'll be at 1.2 in a matter of seconds!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
what is pushing this stock??

Pump and speculation at this point.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Someone was real happy for a minute....right up utill they sold 2000 shares at .1021...

I'd be shooten myself...

Damn near ready to do that anyways because of this stock...

Congrats to all that stayed with this...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
Did anyone get in under .10?

Yup, 14k averaging .082 in my portfolio. Well, actually 12k now, protected myself. [Smile]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
.168 avg 20k shares, sold some along the way still hold about 12k
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
Did anyone get in under .10?

0.093
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i love this stock
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Hey maumee...things going good? you never got back in? hold the bat for me would ya? I may be needing it...LOL
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
10K shares at .19 sold some! oh well!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
1.10 baby!!!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I'm sure they're changing fast, but what do the L2s look like right now?
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
How many of you did this same thing back in Feb with USXP? Twice in a year!!!!!!
 
Posted by wadeinni on :
 
Holy Sh*t!!!!! Reminds me of the Taser International run back in 2004 from $1.49 to $127
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
2 dollar close imo
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
wow, don't know if i should put more money now.. or be happy with what i have.. geezz
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
This is unstoppable damn!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
L2's are so thin, and they change like crazy! We are going very high today! Sorry almost impossible to post, change to fast!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
WOW!! look at the L2 line up on the ask! high quote is now 6 bucks!! was 2 bucks 30 minutes ago!!
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
I would say wait for a dip but looks like there aren't gonnna be any
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
Did anyone get in under .10?

Yup, 14k averaging .082 in my portfolio. Well, actually 12k now, protected myself. [Smile]
You and MTpromises got me jelous, LoL
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
L2's are so thin, and they change like crazy! We are going very high today! Sorry almost impossible to post, change to fast!

thanks, cassity . . . I kinda figured that would be the case!
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
I haven't been this high since my college days in the early 70's with drugs, sex and rock n roll. This is a much better high except for the sex. I'll take that back it is better than the sex cause I'm an older fart now.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Can anyone summarize in 3 sentences or less why this is running like a runaway train?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Hey maumee...things going good? you never got back in? hold the bat for me would ya? I may be needing it...LOL

I have placed that bat firmly an directly in my ass...HARD!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey 10 do ya LIKY!!!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
NUTS!
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Got in at 1.05 today. What did I buy? Why is it going crazy like this?

Can someone give me a quick rundown on it, or PM me? Thanks
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
The best part about me getting in at .082 and holding is, its my FIRST real short term investment...thanks to Allstocks.com

I had some minor investments but this is the first where i actually put a bit of cash out. Im kind of dealing with shell shock at the moment.
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
1.16 X 1.17
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
This is truly amazing.. I sold most of my shares at a profit yesterday. I am glad I kept some. This is by far a very unusual situation that does not follow the way most stocks go. I have not had a stock follow this pattern before. I may not have another one like this for a LONG time so I am certainly enjoying this one!!!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i believe we get out at least 10 bucks per share
 
Posted by Sasquatch on :
 
LOL! I had to take this thing off my streamer because it was depressing me comparing it to my slow profits!

Great job peeps.

Sas
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Can anyone summarize in 3 sentences or less why this is running like a runaway train?

Because I sold it yesterday!!!

One sentence....TAKE THAT!!!LOL
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Thanks for nothing. Anyone else?
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
LoL, You're funny Maumee
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Watch for a shake around 1.25 ...maybe??
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Hey 10 do ya LIKY!!!

Cassity..that is a given!!! ask me after it's over...LOL...I said I might change my mind..lOL...

Whhoo hooo!!!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
HUGE BUYS AT 1.2!!!!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Thanks for nothing. Anyone else?

Pump and speculation of $15 per share.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
Did anyone get in under .10?

Yup, 14k averaging .082 in my portfolio. Well, actually 12k now, protected myself. [Smile]
You and MTpromises got me jelous, LoL
like many of you, I dumped 40% of my shares to cover my cost basis yesterday morning at 0.305 . . . but I'm still ecstatic! I don't remember who posted it (Doniboy?) but they said, "this would make their year" . . . for me, I'm thinking my life.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Thanks for nothing. Anyone else?

Pump and speculation of $15 per share.
What is the $15 based on? Did the company release a PR like PGPM saying their shares are worth $15? Or is based on financials?
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
this stock has been an absolute windfall for you guys. I sure wish I had kept my 200K * .07 now [Frown]
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
8K information + numerous conversations with the CEO.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
I feel a new HOD comming, Yeehaaaaaaa
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Watch for a shake around 1.25 ...maybe??

Take the bat outta your a$$ and get back in...remember when i first said to get in and you asked why would it continue to go back up? It did...don't know why...but it did and it is now come on...remove the bat and jump! Peaser did it! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
New HOD on deck, weeeeee
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
its running on news of a $15 per share when the ticker changes..
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
100% on the day!
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
This is truly Remarkable.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Repo, the $15 val of shares is based on the 8K merger agreement. Calls to the CEO have been confirmed as a trading price of $15 will be established by/on 15 days after the date of closing, July 28-Aug 1. I was very speculative of this but, im almost a believer now. The 8K says it all.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Thanks for nothing. Anyone else?

Repo, merger with CVSU should be final in a week or two. And, the projected share value at time of merger is astounding. In a nut shell
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Thanks for nothing. Anyone else?

Pump and speculation of $15 per share.
What is the $15 based on? Did the company release a PR like PGPM saying their shares are worth $15? Or is based on financials?
Call the company and talk to Rufus the CEO. He'll explain why this will be at $15. This is not just speculation, many have confirmed. Seriously, just call and I have a feeling you'll be buying some. This price is a steal. IMO [Big Grin]
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kt325ci:
this stock has been an absolute windfall for you guys. I sure wish I had kept my 200K * .07 now [Frown]

200,000 shares??

I think I'm gonna hurl. Sorry about that.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Ok... so will the merger result in a R/S or restricted shares, or do you guys not care because you are all selling before that?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Thanks for nothing. Anyone else?

CVSU to merge with FHAL - CVSU book value 15 bucks a share, going public with this merger. -- CVSU CEO states company will buy most if not the entire float prior to symbol change on the first. -- CEO states stock to open on the 1st at or above 7 dollars a share. 8K filing shows liquid assets of CVSU exceed 800 million at this time. CEO and filings state shares will NOT be restricted. no change in share structure, exchange rate will be 1 for 1.
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
this stock takes like 5 steps forward and 1 step back...then again 5 steps forward etc..lol...i bought in at 5k at .23 but sold like an idiot at .32..i just bought back in at 1.00 and already gained 30% (i know thats chump change compared to what i couldve had)
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
No reverse split
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Ok... so will the merger result in a R/S or restricted shares, or do you guys not care because you are all selling before that?

CEO says no split or restriction but until it happens it is speculation.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Ok thanks.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Thanks for nothing. Anyone else?

Repo, merger with CVSU should be final in a week or two. And, the projected share value at time of merger is astounding. In a nut shell
Not to be a jerk, but Rufus made it very clear the merger is a done deal. They have filed 10k and 15 days from july 12 is when ticker changes and opens at $15.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Huge block buys have been comming in all day. We will probably have like 7,000 trades buy the EOD
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
jesus, if i had tapped my savings account and invested in this 2 days ago...i'd be retired today for sure
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Ok... so will the merger result in a R/S or restricted shares, or do you guys not care because you are all selling before that?

CEO says no split or restriction but until it happens it is speculation.
Wrong again, CEO didn't say, 8k is very clear, no restrictions! [Wink]
 
Posted by Claydough on :
 
I try to be a good boy and take some profits, but then I just have to jump back in after watching it continue to rise. I can't think of anything but this stock right now. Started vacation yesterday. Nice start. Maybe it won't ever have to end.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
another .05 dip, what a freakin monster this is.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
as far as rufus and them are concerned... the merger is already complete. ask them and thats what they say. try going to fronthauls website. it's directs you straight to cvsu's... remember what i told you guys earlier from talking with ben stanley... he said 21... because it will be based off 3 times what there book value and there book value is 7.21... maybe he doesn't know what he's talking about...? but also, rufus said... we *will* be going to nasdaq... everyone else pretty much covered everything else... called this morning 13mil left from what they knew of... didn't know what current was cuz they didn't tally it up. also audited financials coming out soon
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
8k does not state restricted shares, nor a reverse split upon merger. SEC regs require that all applicable agreement provisions that affect shareholders shall be stated in the 8K Material Agreement filing. So i dont think either situation will happen repo
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Repoman75:
[qb] Thanks for nothing. Anyone else?

CVSU to merge with FHAL - CVSU book value 15 bucks a share,

mad, I believe the book value is just over $7
 
Posted by Claydough on :
 
+125%
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
someone just bought at 1.44 when the ask was 1.38..lol oh well its about to hit 1.44 in a sec
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Everyone on this board will see me here until the ticker change in a little over a week. I'm not a pumper, I've done my DD and I have no doubts anymore. 15 seemed impossible but just wait my friends!
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
This is the one we all dream about happening...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Thanks for nothing. Anyone else?

Repo, merger with CVSU should be final in a week or two. And, the projected share value at time of merger is astounding. In a nut shell
Not to be a jerk, but Rufus made it very clear the merger is a done deal. They have filed 10k and 15 days from july 12 is when ticker changes and opens at $15.
Huh? Not to be a jerk but i didnt say it wasnt. [Smile]

I also spoke with Rufus and feel great about this, did my comment appear negative?
 
Posted by juice on :
 
i just can't believe what im seeing here wow how much mula did you all make!?!*?
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
someone just bought at 1.44 when the ask was 1.38..lol oh well its about to hit 1.44 in a sec

He saw the L2's
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
im up 50% since buying back in like an hour ago..these last two days have been lovely thanks to the great people of allstocks who've been trackin this thing...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
8k does not state restricted shares, nor a reverse split upon merger. SEC regs require that all applicable agreement provisions that affect shareholders shall be stated in the 8K Material Agreement filing. So i dont think either situation will happen repo

his interview on ***.com, he stated no restrictions or splits....
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Repoman75:
[qb] Thanks for nothing. Anyone else?

CVSU to merge with FHAL - CVSU book value 15 bucks a share,

mad, I believe the book value is just over $7

sorry just excited i guess!! I have edited that post! thanks for keeping my feet on the ground! GLTY!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Repoman75:
[qb] Thanks for nothing. Anyone else?

CVSU to merge with FHAL - CVSU book value 15 bucks a share,

mad, I believe the book value is just over $7

if you read the pr the book value is 7.21... reason why it's going so high is because ben stanley stated that it is 3 times the book value... that is why it's not going to be 7.21
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
up 30K since Monday
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
man i really screwwed up , i'll go ahead and admit it
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
8k does not state restricted shares, nor a reverse split upon merger. SEC regs require that all applicable agreement provisions that affect shareholders shall be stated in the 8K Material Agreement filing. So i dont think either situation will happen repo

his interview on ***.com, he stated no restrictions or splits....
Exactly, just more confirmation that neither instance will occur. I like it
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Does anyone know the record for most trades in 1 day for a penny stock? or what's the most you ever seen?
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
amazing how consistently its been going up approx 10 cents and then dropping approx 5 and then doing it again and again...shows its a solid climb up...more than likely should not retractin the long because of it...1.50 around the turn
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
15-1.45, HMMMM you do the math, still look like a good buy. Some may never know. Oh well. JUST LOVIN IT!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
The news is all good, shares are being gobbled up...there is nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile. [Smile]
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
you're not alone blackbeard...i jumped back in at a buck..i think i would still jump back in at this point if i hadnt
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Im up $21k now :-) lol im grinning all over the place, by far a tax problem
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Did I mention I bought into PAIV yesterday? Congrats to all....got to love life
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
funny part is when i bought at a dollar i told myself that i wont be greedy and i'll jump out at 1.15 to make a clean 15% gain...hah, fat chance i'll be sellin anytime soon now
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
The news is all good, shares are being gobbled up...there is nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile. [Smile]

I didn't find your last post negetive, I just want the truth to be clear. Stories can get screwed up. SMILE BABY, SMILEEEEEEE!!!!!!
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
We have to pay taxes?? [Smile]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by coalkickin:
Did I mention I bought into PAIV yesterday? Congrats to all....got to love life

better sell it and put it all in here;) haha, joke... joke... haha
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
does anyone else have the distinct feeling that we'll see $2 today?
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Jmoove,

I think your $2 EOD is gonna happen at this rate or by first thing in the morning. Heck $15 is possible by Friday the way this thing is running hahaha.
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
Im up $21k now :-) lol im grinning all over the place, by far a tax problem

If you sold and made 20k profit, what would the taxes be?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
does anyone else have the distinct feeling that we'll see $2 today?

That is within reach I do believe.
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
yes...2.00 is very possible....maybe before lunch
 
Posted by wadeinni on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by coalkickin:
We have to pay taxes?? [Smile]

UNCLE SAM, the biggest scum of all...LOL. You make it, they take it
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
1.5's are going to drop fast, very thin all the way to $2.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
does anyone else have the distinct feeling that we'll see $2 today?

With what's been happening the past few days, anything is possible, and I mean anything.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Little shake doesn't hurt.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
so, im in the photo studio and were shooting Christmas for Target's ad campaign...

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY!!! [Big Grin]

ho ho ho

~BB
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
yeah, I have 500 shares in this and 1500 in PAIV. I've been in PAIV since .029 I know I'm not making as much as ya'll but this is not bad for a poor college student.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
Im up $21k now :-) lol im grinning all over the place, by far a tax problem

If you sold and made 20k profit, what would the taxes be?
taxes on 20K long term capital gains are 15%-20% i think or $3k-4k lol. If you sell within a year you are taxed at your income rate. I dont mind paying taxes, it just means i made alot of money.
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
I am going to print this stock chart, frame it and hang it on my wall. I will smile everytime I look at it.
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Jmoove are we going to become CVSU or is there going to be a new ticker symbol as well?
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by juice:
i just can't believe what im seeing here wow how much mula did you all make!?!*?

$14053 (1174%) but that changes every minute!
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Someone just bought $50,000 worth of FHAL !!!!

I wish I had that much to spend. LoL
 
Posted by pepa z depa on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kt325ci:
this stock has been an absolute windfall for you guys. I sure wish I had kept my 200K * .07 now [Frown]

exactly, i owned 80k for 0.8, sold 60k for around 22 cents and now i have only 20k more.
Without recent conference with their ceo, i wouldnt have sell it, i had some doubts about them.
 
Posted by Claydough on :
 
Heres a good point to get back in!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shomethamoney:
Jmoove are we going to become CVSU or is there going to be a new ticker symbol as well?

Sounds like we become a new ticker symbol, i doubt it will be CVSU exactly as they are already listed. Who knows, whatever the symbol i better see "Open $15.00" on my ticker that day lol
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
70% of the float traded today
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shomethamoney:
Jmoove are we going to become CVSU or is there going to be a new ticker symbol as well?

ticker will change from fhal to cvsu 28jul-1aug...
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
its droppin like crazy...1.39
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Don't worry, we'll be right back to 1.5! Just the beginning.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
im actually glad shes taking a little breather, lets see where the support is
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hell of a shake...
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
LoL, this was at .16 on Monday
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
They need shares, MM's are going to dip it hard, to scare the piss outa ya!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Any of you that have been in since the beginning and are not takin profits now, are either crazy or have large brass ones
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
intraday support at 1.28, 1.05 and .90 imo
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
they can't have mine... [Wink]
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
going back up!
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
There's our bounce.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
the L2's are going nuts!!!!
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
FHAL is headed toward the Moon

 -

Literally
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I've been accused of having more ba**s than brains lol
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Any of you that have been in since the beginning and are not takin profits now, are either crazy or have large brass ones

Hanging in for the long haul!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
level IIs show a CRAZY support area at the bid, and nothing at the ask [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
Shake n Bake right before lunchtime
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Haven't sold one share, been in since .18. MAUMEE, they're titanium!!!! [Wink]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
yup, speaking of, im gone for lunch see yall in an hour or so
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
i've made some nice profit today..im out at 1.40..time to jump in the shower and enjoy the rest of my day out at the pool with a 12pack
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
I had a sell order for 1/3 my shares yesterday at .74 and it never filled !!! Thank you Jesus!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Haven't sold one share, been in since .18. MAUMEE, they're titanium!!!! [Wink]

Hmmm, i could see myself selling 200 or so shares if it hits 10, just so i can celebrate some. [Smile]
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
that PAIV is gone nuts too...i rmember tryin to put a buy order in at .02 just a couple days ago that didnt go through...now its at .136..so much money to be made, not enough time in a day!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I wish I had $10k, I would still buy. I'm serious when I say this is just the beginning! Yesterday, people were scared to buy at .65, now they are wishing they would have. We'll have some come and go, but I think we have some TRUE longs in this one.
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
Thank You everyone!
Dip now but it will come back huge around 12:30

Best penny ever for me, Thank You again!


.................................................
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
im in till atleast the symbol change for sure
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
This is the third bounce off 1.35. Looking strong.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
easy cass haha... don't want ppl comin in pointing fingers yelling "pumper" [Wink] haha...
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
In 2.5 hours FHAL already has 4,500 trades
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
ouch...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
dip baby dip I like it
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Yea! I'll settle down, just excited!
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
The MMs are scaring the sh*t outta whoever bought at the HOD. Don't fall for it, you'll be hittin yourself hard by the end of the day.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
you got it, hold em strong
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
fmnj had to be my best stock, ...got in at .004 and sold at .11 (high was .13). made over 26k. fhal probably the next best trade i've made
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
still havent left for lunch, cant tear my eyes away!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
ummm.... this is kinda huge shake...
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
could this be the bottom? 1.121
 
Posted by Claydough on :
 
hang in there y'all this party is far from over.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
leveling off?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
ummm.... this is kinda huge shake...

Yea, distressing huh?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
was that a fake?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
hot damn, you can believe this or not, but before I went to the dentist, I set a sell to sell half of my shares at $1.55.

When I just came home and saw that it reached $1.55, I rushed to my account to see if it filled. It had not. [Frown]

But I thought it was pretty funny that I picked that number.

Jo
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
I'd expect some roller-coaster movement as this ride goes upppppp!!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha the bid is above the ask,lol...
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
It did something similar yesterday from 11:30 until 12:30. Granted it wasn't this bad....I still believe we will pull through around 12:30
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
normal volatility because the float is small right now imo...could easily go to 2 bucks with a few big buys and could easily go to a dollar with a few sells....but that also means if rufus keeps buying this can go the 5-6... dollars by next week
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
WOW that shake took a toll on a lotta ppl, sent em running to stop the tank in the portfolios.

NO backbone
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
NICE, my sell limit hit today at $1.20, but I still holding some shares. Crazy run these 2 days.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
shake it more, im gonna buy in a few i think, shes going to make a charge at 1.70 today at eod
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
bid's above the ask again
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Nice shake!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
that bid above the ask is interesting
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Hmmmm, I bet Rufus is gonna clean up after lunch...if he is paying attention. I suspect he might be. [Smile]
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
which I had still been at the dentist instead of having to witness that shake.

Back up we go!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
10, I haven't had live L2's for very long, but have you ever seen strings of sells go through like that. I seriously think those might be company buying shares. It doesn't hurt the PPS when it happens. Please let me know what you think! Thanks
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
What could it mean if the Bid is above the ask?
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
 -

Maybe this will help, it may be dipping for some back fills but I'm sure most of us could out do this chick today!
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
man, i've already sold my position but i can help but stay intrigued watching this thing fluctuate like crazy! kinda wish i still kept some shares just for the rush of the ups and downs..
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
you see very well the float is becoming very small so rufus has bought a lot already
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
trying to turn the corner here
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nu2This:
What could it mean if the Bid is above the ask?

Investors are willing to pay more than what is asked
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
ok who took a shower this time?? LOL
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
a close above 2 dollar is very likely to happen and if not it will close in the area around 2 dollars and gap up over 2 tomorrow morning...when was the interview on *** because there harris said something "within 15 days" pr
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
quote:
Originally posted by Nu2This:
What could it mean if the Bid is above the ask?

Investors are willing to pay more than what is asked
something so simple as that....I guess if I used my brain I could have figured that out. Thanks!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
nOT ME i WIRED MORE MONEY$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ lol [Smile]
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
going up again, new high of the day will be a fact within the next 30min imo
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *********06:
going up again, new high of the day will be a fact within the next 30min imo

I agree, 12:30 yesterday this thing took off.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
If this goes up to $2.00 today even $1.25 is a good entry point.

I'm wondering at what point Rufus and company will stop buying shares. Will they ever stop as long as folks are willing to sell them? Or eventually will there be no market for these shares?

Jo
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
omg.. went to class and came back to see 1.55 HOD??? geez omfg.. but it will be higher.. i'm still not selling.. lol
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
If this goes up to $2.00 today even $1.25 is a good entry point.

I'm wondering at what point Rufus and company will stop buying shares. Will they ever stop as long as folks are willing to sell them? Or eventually will there be no market for these shares?

Jo

talked to rufus yesterday and said he will continue buyin float till gone
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
So whats another entry point? Anyone?
Before showering one must let us know so we can buy more!!!! [Wink]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Tried calling Rufus(GOSH I LOVE THAT NAME), got his voice mail. I've wrote a small list of questions, more of the technicals of the process. I'll let ya know what he says, as long as I never hear the word PUMPER and CASSITY in the same sentence again! [Wink]
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
jo,they will buy untill 15 dollars imo...better pay 1.5 dollar for example for 1share than 15dollars..my feeling says this stock can go very high in the next days...i wonder when the next pr will be out...when was the *** interview?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quick dip here.
$1.20
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Tried calling Rufus(GOSH I LOVE THAT NAME), got his voice mail. I've wrote a small list of questions, more of the technicals of the process. I'll let ya know what he says, as long as I never hear the word PUMPER and CASSITY in the same sentence again! [Wink]

Hey, good luck...im anxious to hear the results. At what point does he stop answering his phone though? LOL. Awful nice guy that Rufus.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Where do I find out the "float"?

Jo
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
some big blocks going through , 1 for 35000 and 1 for 45000..
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
ok now its lunchtime, i think this will consolidate a bit here, maybe? lol
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
we should know what the current float is... my guess is 10M
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
EOD everyone in the showers!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Tried calling Rufus(GOSH I LOVE THAT NAME), got his voice mail. I've wrote a small list of questions, more of the technicals of the process. I'll let ya know what he says, as long as I never hear the word PUMPER and CASSITY in the same sentence again! [Wink]

lol cass.... try calling ben stanley
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
1.20 seems to be the support
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
So assuming many of the buys are Rufus, then each time he gathers shares, that is that much less in the float. Eventually, flipping this at these levels would be a mistake, correct? Because as we flip them, the company buys them, and the company is not going to sell them at this time. So less and less shares will be available to buy into.

Is my thinking correct?

Jo
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
yes but that didn't stand true when it was at 1.50;)
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
So assuming many of the buys are Rufus, then each time he gathers shares, that is that much less in the float. Eventually, flipping this at these levels would be a mistake, correct? Because as we flip them, the company buys them, and the company is not going to sell them at this time. So less and less shares will be available to buy into.

Is my thinking correct?

Jo

I think a few people made some quick flips but yes, im afraid of just that fact. Id hate to sell and then not be able to buy back in. Im standing firm anyway, i cant be shaken.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
yes jo, the fluctuations will get bigger and bigger because the float is drying up... rufus does not sell them back into the market so it can go very high if rufus is indeed buying the entire float
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Just look at the bid and ask sizes(5). They need shares and are doing a fine job gettin'um. Prowds what Ben's #. Thanks
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Just look at the bid and ask sizes(5). They need shares and are doing a fine job gettin'um. Prowds what Ben's #. Thanks

1-317-213-7700 ben stanley
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
lol arca at the best bid and up she goes, is the rumor true that ARCA cooperates with insiders?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
ask if they know what the current float is and when the received those numbers... also ask why 15 is being thrown around if the book value is 7.21 and the share value will be 3 times the book value...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
WOW, I went to a meeting and came back to this...the ultimate flipping chance gone by. OK, tell the truth, which one of you guys made the big flip????
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
it is almost impossible to flip this one... it changes so fast
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
WOW, I went to a meeting and came back to this...the ultimate flipping chance gone by. OK, tell the truth, which one of you guys made the big flip????

No flip here, im afraid to let go of my shares.
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
Someone call rufus tell him to bring it up to $2.00 or so.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Just keeps gettin better! Be back in a min.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
he's probably eating, rufus sounds like a name for a 300 pound man don't you think? lolz
OH SHI lets not make him mad!!!
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
great run...i hope everyone now has free shares..yes??
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
he's probably eating, rufus sounds like a name for a 300 pound man don't you think? lolz
OH SHI lets not make him mad!!!

LMAO!!! Careful Caaarefull
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
Huge block buys have been comming in all day. We will probably have like 7,000 trades buy the EOD

I think it might be more like 8-9 thousand now.
 
Posted by wadeinni on :
 
Yeah don't bite the hand thats pushing this to 15 bucks Hanibiull..but that was funny..LOL
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
tons of 500 share blocks trading
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
if it wasnt for the 3 day fund settling, someone could be makin a ton of 10% flips on this
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
bid / ask spread is wide open
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
If anyone calls Rufus..ask why CVSU stopped trading in March...just curious as to if the SEC halted or if they voted to do so...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Why don't you get a margin account?

Even with that, though, you still can't make more than 3 round-trips unless you have over $25,000 in your account and have a daytrading account.

But I have just a margin account w/o the $25,000 and don't have to wait for funds to settle.

Jo
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
O.K just talked to Ben: I asked him about the $15 pps, he stated the way it will work is, they are going to release PR's for the 10k and the share buyback program. Yes they are still buying shares at this time and want the entire float. Sounds like share buyback is very similar to share buyout(JMO). He said it IS a good idea to request hard copies of your shares for share buyback, so they know who the shareholders are! I asked him if he had any estimates on the current float and he said to look at the share sizes, getting very low(his words)! Press releases will be very soon in his exact words. I asked if the pps was at $5 before ticker change and it goes to $15 after ticker change do we get the $10 difference. He said that it would be explained in the buyback PR. Sorry if this is so choppy, but I'm STOKED! Do not buy on my phone calls or DD.(disclaimer)Call him yourself.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Okay, lunchtime is over, time to head on up to HOD!

Jo
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
"He said it IS a good idea to request hard copies of your shares for share buyback, so they know who the shareholders are!"


I still don't get this.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
WTF cass? rufus said that was only for cvsu holders, about the hard copy's...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
damn it now i'm gonna hafta call again...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
WTF cass? rufus said that was only for cvsu holders, about the hard copy's...

Yea, I might have a meeting here shortly but after that i think ill call etrade. I really need an explaination from them on this.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I just called scottrade to request mine. The guy said if they are doing a share buyback it will be better if we just keep it electrinical. Ben made it sound like it's more for shorts than required, sorry if I'm confusing you!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
WTF cass? rufus said that was only for cvsu holders, about the hard copy's...

I don't think that was said in the PR...but it is how it read...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
How does a share buy back work? Is there a point where CVSU holds enough shares of FHAL that they can agressively buy back the shares regardless if we want to sell or do they just offer a sweet deal and hope we take it?
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
didnt know you could buy penny stocks on margin...i thought pennies were considered unmarginable stocks
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
here comes the volume again...LETS GOOOOO!!!!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Well you don't buy them on Margin. But if you have a margin account with your broker, you don't have to wait for your funds to settle.

Jo
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
When I talked to Scottrade they made it sound a lot like a buyout! He gave me a example if the stock is at 1.10 and they want to buy your shares for 1.25 then that amount will be put in your account. He said it's easier to do if you just keep it electronic.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
volume 12,879,000
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
didnt know you could buy penny stocks on margin...i thought pennies were considered unmarginable stocks

With a margin..you "get double" your cash to purchase largeer stocks...
but you can buy penny stocks "in your margin" account...but you are not "borrowing" extra money...you can only use your actual cash...the nice thing is..that you don't have to wait for the funds to settle...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
My point is that the PR's will CLARIFY! One for 10k and one for share buyback. I'm sure they will specify if it will be a necessity. It's not like you won't have time to get them if you need them(I don't think you will) FOR SHORTERS! Call and clarify for yourself(broker and company)Anyway this is the best news yet, answered how I'm going to get 15 per share.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hey cass... i talked to a guy that didn't really make it sound like that. hard copy cost's 50 dollars to get out. if you want try calling my scottrade guy... 303-394-6989
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
ouch another shake?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
WTF cass? rufus said that was only for cvsu holders, about the hard copy's...

I don't think that was said in the PR...but it is how it read...
10, i called rufus yesterday and that is what he told me...
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
why is this thing going so low?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
It was suggested that today was a momo play...many got in not even knowing what the heck the merger was about and now they made bank and are gone...we are back to waiting...IMO
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
why is this thing going so low?

over $14,000,000 has been traded today...some of that has to be profit takeing.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Yea I know $50 for certs. The guy at Scottrade said if they do require it we can call and request later if need be. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hmmmm... i'm getting weary...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Holy smoke, tanking! Down goes Frazier! Run for your lives!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
very weary indeed
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
repo... get out of here and go pump wwen...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i'm gonna call soon to try to get more info bout buyback cass...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Where's the support for this dip?

Mid 80's?
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
crap, i DID make him mad =-O SORRY RUFUS! forgiven and forgotten? pls? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
I haven't seen any block sells, the smart ones are still holding.
 
Posted by wadeinni on :
 
Man this has got to be one of the biggest shakes I've ever seen. Damn greedy MMs. Wish I had my fingers on the button like they do
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Added more [Smile]
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
now a good time to buy in? I'm not following what's happening.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
geezes... i shoulda flipped this:D hindsight... it's a bit*#
 
Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
Another pump and dump.
 
Posted by jordanreed on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wadeinni:
Man this has got to be one of the biggest shakes I've ever seen. Damn greedy MMs. Wish I had my fingers on the button like they do

might be more than a shake..

could be finding its true pps...

caution.. be advised
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Rael, do you have L2's you might want to wait a bit. could go a little lower during this shake.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
It's all good, please call Prowds, I think I may have confused everyone. Sorry. Not that confusing and very good news!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BlackWidow:
Another pump and dump.

haha, here come the skeptics...
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
nobody get mad at me for sayin this but anyone notice any similarities between this stock and NDOL? started out at about the same pps and rocketed to about the same pps and its all on rumors of a high value buyout. ndol dipped a few times. it fell slow at first and eventually dwindled away to .27. only thing more positive about this is the fact that the merger was filed with SEC...again, it was just something that crossed my mind cause i invested in ndol as well and it seems like similiar up and downs and so forth..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Guys is it possible that Rufus is buying the shares and then re-selling them? Are companies allowed to do that? Please don't shoot me...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
nobody get mad at me for sayin this but anyone notice any similarities between this stock and NDOL? started out at about the same pps and rocketed to about the same pps and its all on rumors of a high value buyout. ndol dipped a few times. it fell slow at first and eventually dwindled away to .27. only thing more positive about this is the fact that the merger was filed with SEC...again, it was just something that crossed my mind cause i invested in ndol as well and it seems like similiar up and downs and so forth..

I mentioned that yesterday, but most think it is different from NDOL because NDOL never put out a 8K until after their price dropped. All the increase in their PPS was due to rumor.

Jo
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
just wait, give it a little, its up 100% yesterday and 40% today, itll be alright
 
Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:
Originally posted by BlackWidow:
Another pump and dump.

haha, here come the skeptics...
Skeptical? No, I see what I see.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
This is nothing like NDOL. The bashers who missed the boat are coming in and letting their jealousy force them to try and put us down. Just ignore them.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BlackWidow:
Another pump and dump.

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
on top of what you said jo, its funny how the high is just where ndol peaked at as well.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Screw it..i'm turning this off...i said that I was holding for a few days...and I am...if I watch I will sell...have a great day guys!

I'll check back later on...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Yeah, that is eerily similar!

Jo
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Pump and Dump, I still have every share. 10 I don't think so, Call company and you won't even worry. JMO
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
black it's alright... i'm skeptical. if ppl aren't that are playing this... well they should be. i really hope that if this tanks anytime that i don't hafta read about ppl saying... "i knew it from the get go... look at you guys... your dumb..." made a pile of money and if ppl didn't protect themselves it's their fault...
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
WOW..this stock is all over the place...current price higher than bid or ask

bid higher than ask...what a head spin
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
no basher here...i like this stock alot, just pointing out somethin that crossed my mind is all.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
up... up... c'mon!!!
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
Damn Market makers are so evil.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Ndol went up because of a buyout then tanked because they called the buyout off. End of story. This is not the case here.
 
Posted by Lauralai on :
 
this thread (and stock) is moving so fast! does anyone know when the PR's are due to be out? TIA!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
No similarity to NDOL, trust me I was there. The only reason NDOL went down was they went from BUYOUT TO MERGER in one weekend. I figure if you want to sell just do it. They are buying back the float. More people call more info is released. JMO
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Heck it could close at this and id be happy. I admit, i broke a sweat there for a second but im feeling better now. [Smile]
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
picking up good again
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
seriously? people think the ndol chart has anything to do with this? is that some type of new DD?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
damn, couldn't resist, picked up 30k more shares at 1.04 hope i didn't get ripped off..
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
stock cant run forever, needs to breath a bit, still 2.5 hrs to close and this is up big, momentum is still with us esp with about 70% of the volume coming in over .90
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I may be new at this but i doubt anyone is going to find anything that matches what this is doing right now. I dont even know what NDOL is, i own FHAL.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
damn, couldn't resist, picked up 30k more shares at 1.04 hope i didn't get ripped off..

Holy Shnikeys! Now thats support!
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
I can't find yesterdays post that had a link to the institutional block buys,if someone can repost it that would be great.

Thanks everyone,

GO FHAL!
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
ouch, what a drop. i would hate to have bought at 1.55
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
L2's are so thin I think we'll break out soon. Some will sell and that's normal. Shares will get to be less and less and we will be movin even faster!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
here we go again under $1.00. This thing is like a ping-pong ball.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Prowds did you call?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
You guys are safe....I'm not in it yet!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Its going crazy today, just like it did a few trading days back when it ran to .35 and dumped to .15 but remember what happened after that. It ran to current levels. We are now a big enough stock that we will see bashers on every dip.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
isn't there support around .90 then 1.12 or something...thats what I thought at least...then it just goes...
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
damn.. it's going down again.. did i bring the bad luck?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
after all this volume and huge surges in pps, it had to dump down sometime, this is a short marathon not a sprint
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
ok... ok... i called
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Good support at .90
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
MM'S are seriously accumulating
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
ok... ok... i called

and he said?
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
You guys are safe....I'm not in it yet!!

[Confused]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
sorry, 7.21 a share is conversion solutions book value. so there trade value is 21.......... but, what they listed and agreed on is 15 a share... he didn't want to discuss how the buyback program worked because that is a PR and it will be released shortly. He said they are working on the press releases right now and hope to have one out by tomorrow. The reason why they want to do the hard copies is it lets them know who the shareholders are and who the shorts are... so i guess just wait. he calmed me down a bit from talking to him...

NOTE: him = Ben Stanley
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
ok... ok... i called

and he said?
He said FHAL to da Moon [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hmmm, sounds like what I said, much better put!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
Oh almost forgot... semi-important part... i asked what they intend to do with the shares once they are complete with the "buyback" and he claimed they hope that everyone will hold and stay with the company. he told me they plan on holding...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
sorry, 7.21 a share is conversion solutions book value. so there trade value is 21.......... but, what they listed and agreed on is 15 a share... he didn't want to discuss how the buyback program worked because that is a PR and it will be released shortly. He said they are working on the press releases right now and hope to have one out by tomorrow. The reason why they want to do the hard copies is it lets them know who the shareholders are and who the shorts are... so i guess just wait. he calmed me down a bit from talking to him...

NOTE: him = Ben Stanley

Hmmm, well i guess we will know more with the PR but i know NOTHING about buy backs in general so it should be an interesting read for me. heh
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
he didn't want to discuss how the buyback program worked because that is a PR and it will be released shortly.
How come they're talking about everything else, but won't say anything about this. What's to keep them from releasing a PR that is totally different from what we are expecting (shades of NDOL)

Jo
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Good deal Prowds, I can't imagine a PR right now. The Earth might spin off it's axis...lol
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
Oh almost forgot... semi-important part... i asked what they intend to do with the shares once they are complete with the "buyback" and he claimed they hope that everyone will hold and stay with the company. he told me they plan on holding...

Ahh, i see. That makes sense now....i promise to hold at least 1000 shares after merger Rufus!! [Smile]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
ok... ok... i called

and he said?
He said FHAL to da Moon [Big Grin]
LMAO!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by JohnDoe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Igor R:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Uh oh.. keep mentioning NDOL, and you know WHO will show up.. the ALBATROSS of ALLSTOCKS and her merry gang of midgets.

Keep her away from this thread, it will just make it unbearable to read.
Damn..right i do not want to curse... that ***** out so keep those morons out..LOL. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
The buy back is going on now, he's buying, thats a buyback. The $15.00 is what the price will be listed at after the symbol change.

[Smile] Its all good.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
quote:
he didn't want to discuss how the buyback program worked because that is a PR and it will be released shortly.
How come they're talking about everything else, but won't say anything about this. What's to keep them from releasing a PR that is totally different from what we are expecting (shades of NDOL)

Jo

Because everything they have said is in the 8k. PR's haven't been made public knowledge yet.
 
Posted by Claydough on :
 
Well, EOD will be interesting with a supposed PR tomorrow. I am feeling pretty good still. Taking a bike ride and hoping to come back to a strong finish.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
curious as to what the PR will be about tomorrow... probably just updating investors so they stop calling them with the same damn questions:D

i do find it wierd about the buyback PR however...

EDIT: if a PR will be released... as he said, he hopes to have one out by tomorrow...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
i do find it wierd about the buyback PR however...

Meaning??
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
You guys are safe....I'm not in it yet!!

[Confused]
Was in , sold too early yesterday Batman....
Chased it and never caught it.....

Have alot of family matters to attend to and have no real time to monitor things....This however did turn out to be one I could have walked away from without worry...

Such is life !!!

I'll get the next bus!!

Congrats to all who prospered!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
dunno... it's just a big surprise:D ahaha, people should pick and prod at them till they give up some info about it... then private message me before posting anything:D hahaha
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i can't call about the same questions anymore... i think they might recognize my voice by now.... lol
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Well, concerning the PR, I guess we should remember the old adage, buy on rumor, sell on news.

Jo
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Im not even sure why im watching the silly ticker then. The PPS really means squat at this point it seems. I feel better already.
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
8K 8K 8K 8K

It might blast off again tomorrow if any news comes out...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
The DJIA seems to be doing spectacular today...I'd be happy if we finished up that many points [Razz]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
One thing I heard for a pr was possibly by friday a pr about the 10k being filed.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
possible jo... but what if that news bumps this thing up again?? thats all ppl have bought off of right now is rumor and calls to the "big guys" if a PR is released regarding all of this... i dunno... i'd probably.... watch the ticker to see what happens;)
 
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Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I'm just saying to remember that theory. Cause I was in XKEM and as soon as the news came out that we had been waiting for, the PPS tanked. Went from .11 to .035.

I'm learning from my mistakes all the time!

Jo
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Anyone buying at this .93?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Can you imagine, a PR comes out saying they will be buying our shares back up to $15, sell on that news! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
I think they're trying to push it down below $1 so people would panic sell tomorrow morning..

But if people keep the 8K numbers (which NDOL does not have) in mind, then they might fall to the MM schemes..
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i understand Jo... sorry to hear bout that... guess we just hafta wait and see... hopefully things work out for the best...
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
going up!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
If we can get over a dollar again, we are off to the races again. Pretty exciting, sorry if I got to crazy today, just never seen anything like this stock!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
I think im buying ....hmmmm [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Yeah Jo, I remember your post a long time ago of all your red stocks, that was brutal. But you must have gained some ground on this one right? I pulled my capital and its all free rides now [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
a close above a dollar would be great
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
and back up, man im getting sea sick
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
BUYs!!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I'm goin to take a SHOWER! You know what that means!
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
All Aboard.. this one is leaving the station again!!! 1.50 again by EOD!!!
 
Posted by JohnDoe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Uh oh.. keep mentioning NDOL, and you know WHO will show up.. the ALBATROSS of ALLSTOCKS and her merry gang of midgets.

REPOMAN75: are you in FHAL...? and tell us wha's your
thoughts.

Thank you
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
lol, I might do a shower myself [Smile]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
anyone wanna call and try to find out the float?
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
Must say though.. that was a SHAKEDOWN! No matter.. this will be over $3-4 by Friday!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Im requesting a new HOD by 3pm. Its a big request but ya never know with this beast today.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
No, not in FHAL. I really can't give advice either because I haven't researched it.. making my money in WWEN.

But congrats to all who bought low and sold high.
 
Posted by AshyToClassy on :
 
Well I had to be the idiot who bought at 1.38 this morning. All this frenzy got to my head and I went chasing. First mistake :=(
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iloverufus:
Must say though.. that was a SHAKEDOWN! No matter.. this will be over $3-4 by Friday!!

or tomorrow.. if the PR comes out.. =)
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AshyToClassy:
Well I had to be the idiot who bought at 1.38 this morning. All this frenzy got to my head and I went chasing. First mistake :=(

Dont get down yet, this thing should still have STRONG legs.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Told ya take a shower at eod.....lol
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
If we get anything close to $15.00, then I'd say $1.38 is an okay price!

Jo
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iloverufus:
Must say though.. that was a SHAKEDOWN! No matter.. this will be over $3-4 by Friday!!

I love the name hahahah.
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
Shower away people! Woohooo!

This PR will tomorrow will be huge as it will talk of cash assests on hand with merger and also buyback program!

Prediction: $3-5 by Friday!
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
Believe!!!!
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
RUFUS IN DA HOUSE!!!!!!!!!

Damn, here we go...........
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
back to 1.13
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
Look it's a bird, it's a plane.... it's RUFUS THE MAN OF STEEL!!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iloverufus:
Shower away people! Woohooo!

This PR will tomorrow will be huge as it will talk of cash assests on hand with merger and also buyback program!

Prediction: $3-5 by Friday!

nice username! Hope you won't have to change it to "iHATErufus" lol
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
slight resistance at 1.2
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hey now everyone... lets take it easy on talking figures. you know there's lurkers out there watching this. or even newbie non members... don't want them to buy in just because we're excited and got in low...
 
Posted by AshyToClassy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
lol, I might do a shower myself [Smile]

Just took a cool one 15 minutes ago. Hot as hell out here in L.A. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I think we might be building steam again. L2s anyone?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Give me an R...give me a U...and so on.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Geez, my ticker is updating by the second. I need to close some programs just to keep up!!
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Wow, gaining momentum well before 2:30. I hope it can maintain to close!
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
on L2 arca is moving ask price up and up!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I'm sorry I'd post L2's but they change so quick, I'll I know is they are wide open to 1.3
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
ha...we're over three times the ten day average with volume..
 
Posted by AshyToClassy on :
 
Stopit!!! My youngass is gonna catch a heart attack..You know Rufus is watching this as we speak
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
ARCA ask 1.15
 
Posted by AshyToClassy on :
 
Who thinks this is the next Taser or Paiv????
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iloverufus:
Shower away people! Woohooo!

This PR will tomorrow will be huge as it will talk of cash assests on hand with merger and also buyback program!

Prediction: $3-5 by Friday!

If you know that to be true, please post your source. Otherwise, don't post stuff like that...

thanks
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
We get through the teens and the 1.2 will fly!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
rufus is now the most important MM out there...rufus is THE MAN!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
I'm sorry I'd post L2's but they change so quick, I'll I know is they are wide open to 1.3

1.3 would be good, no complaints here. Dont know what other people got in at though
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
exactly tex... thats the kind of stuff that newbie's see and jump in without doing any DD...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
iloverufus has made me a little nervous since their first post...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
anyone? wheres the next fill?
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
ARCA keeping it high. ask price 1.15
 
Posted by wadeinni on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *********06:
rufus is now the most important MM out there...rufus is THE MAN!

Rufus is an MM??? Well we better start buying the guy free lapdances at any strip club of his choice
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
ARCA keeping it high. ask price 1.20! its going up!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
if this hits 15 bucks each shareholder has to spent a dollar and then we can buy rufus a nice present,any suggestions what we could buy for our 'god'...IF THIS HITS 15 bucks of cours :-)
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
ARCA keeping it high. ask price 1.29
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
we're off again...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Nice bid support!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Ok, looks like a run again. This is a good opportunity for me to get away from this PC for a bit!! My eyes hurt
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
Source?? Uhh... how about Rufus himself.. He has stated to me and other on here that this thing will be $15 post merger.. where have you been? $3-5 by Friday is a prediction. But, according to the CEO of FHAL/CVSU, this will be higher than my prediction after the merger.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
ARCA ask price 1.21
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
We're going back over 1.2!
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
ARCA keeping it high. ask price 1.22
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
the pattern i am seeing is really great
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
Looks like Rufus is buying again this afternoon... nice.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
ARCA keeping it high. ask price 1.29
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
this is gonna make a run for the border this PM
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Level 2mm ARCA keeping it high. ask price 1.29
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
1.24 coming quick!
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
Sorry.. don't mean to make newbies jump in without doing their DD. Do the DD and judge for yourselves..

I for one believe we are going much higher!
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Level 2mm ARCA keeping it high. buy 1.18 ask price 1.39
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
1.29 coming up very quick!
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Level 2mm ARCA keeping it high. buy 1.24 ask price 1.25
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
ilove... it's alright... it's just that when you said something like, "the pr will be about the merger, financials, ......" some may read that and just misunderstand excitement... thats all
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
what is up with ARCA why so much interest in them specifically?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
this is already trading like a NASDAQ stock with the L2`s shifting every few seconds!! this is looking better and better!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
if all goes as planned she'll be a nasdaq stock.... in a few months from the way rufus made it sound on the phone...
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
Whoever bought on the lunchtime bottom low congrats, whoever bought higher before that pray
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hustla:
Whoever bought on the lunchtime bottom low congrats, whoever bought higher before that pray

LMAO!!!
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Level 2mm ARCA keeping it high. ask price 1.17 just a breather
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
P rowds, I just want to say that you have been a great addition to this board. Your Honesty and straightforwardness are nice in a world of pumpers and bashers. Good work man. Especially since you are basically a newbie here...lol.
 
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Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Level 2mm ARCA keeping it high. ask price 1.19
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Level 2mm ARCA keeping it high. ask price 1.15
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
how can this really drop ten cents in couple small trade?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
P rowds, I just want to say that you have been a great addition to this board. Your Honesty and straightforwardness are nice in a world of pumpers and bashers. Good work man. Especially since you are basically a newbie here...lol.

Haha, thanks doni...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Looks like we are going back up!
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Level 2mm ARCA keeping it high. ask price 1.25
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
what did someone just do with 100k, me no level II's...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
is anyone else getting dizzy?
 
Posted by Phoenix on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hustla:
Whoever bought on the lunchtime bottom low congrats, whoever bought higher before that pray

Hehe I bought at 1.53

But I only bought 100 shares, just to be onboard to ride the wave..

Thought about averaging down on the dip but couldnt free up the cash.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
Huge block buys have been comming in all day. We will probably have like 7,000 trades buy the EOD

I think it might be more like 8-9 thousand now.
It's gonna be close, but I think we might get past 10,000 trades today.

I think this is the most trades I ever seen.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Level 2mm ARCA keeping it high. ask price 1.16
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
Hey phoenix. I saw this on your watch list on our board and jumped in too. Bought in at .88 and sold at 1.16, now I'm looking for a quick re-entry.

Thanks for the tip!

S.O.T
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
had a nice swim...couldn't stay away long...everyone noticing ARCA keeps going on the bid with large amounts...Could that be Rufus buying at the ask?????
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
is anyone else getting dizzy?

Yes - been flipping all day, this is nuts.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Level 2mm ARCA keeping it high.ask price 1.25
 
Posted by Phoenix on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rael:
Hey phoenix. I saw this on your watch list on our board and jumped in too. Bought in at .88 and sold at 1.16, now I'm looking for a quick re-entry.

Thanks for the tip!

S.O.T

sweet! Glad to hear it man [Smile]
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I flipped once and wish I hadn't. Bought at .67 sold at .88.

But I couldn't stay away and bought some again at 1.04.

Now I'm holding over night so it doesn't count as another r/t. (Unless it hits $3.00 today, then I'm selling!)

Jo
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Back over 1.2 AGAIN. Soon!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
could be that MM`s are collecting shares since they dont have to settle the trades for three days. once they have gathered a boat load they can unleash this beast again sell what they collected today for alot more settle the trades and pocket the rest!
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
Level 2mm ARCA keeping it high.ask price 1.25

ARCA's ask is 1.18?
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Level 2mm ARCA keeping it high. buy 1.18 ask price 1.18
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
[

FRONTHAUL GROUP INC (OBB : FHAL)
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http://www.***********.com/quickreport.asp?ticker=fhal


It looks the same as yesterdays run. Makes me think that tomorrow is going to do the same. Looking really good at this point.
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
I forget, how many r/t's are you allowed in any one given stock in a week? 3?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i kinda wanna fast forward an hour right now to see whats gonna happen and then fast forward to 9:30 eastern time... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
I forgot you cannot put the name of the site on this on. I was trying to put the chart up. It looks identical to yesterday's chart except the price is higher.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Level 2mm ARCA keeping it high. ask price 1.25
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Yes, three round trips within a "rolling" 5-day period. (not "per week")

Ameritrade gives you a little warning on your screen that tells you how many you have so far.

Jo

Edited to add: Unless you have a Pattern Day Trader account. (but you need $25,000 for that)
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
unless you have a margin account...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rael:
I forget, how many r/t's are you allowed in any one given stock in a week? 3?

YEP!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
10 on my L2's it has ARCA with a # sign by it. Do you think they might have to show they are buying back with that? Not suggesting anything, I really don't know.
 
Posted by Phoenix on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
unless you have a margin account...

Yeah but you still have to watch the roundtrips unless you have $25,000.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Level 2mm ARCA keeping it high. ask price 1.25
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Cassity..i don't know...it doesn't show the # on my L2's...

I was just watchin' and seems when ever he gets on the bid...it shoots back up...so i am guessing...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
a close above 1.20 would make me very happy
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
this is already trading like a NASDAQ stock with the L2`s shifting every few seconds!! this is looking better and better!!

Well FHAL is currently the most traded stock on the OTC exchange, with a relative activity percentage of +13% of all OTC activity. NOICE!
 
Posted by insuranceman on :
 
Why is this stock only on margin accounts, where others (PAIV), CLBE, are not?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
unless you have a margin account...

No Crab...even with a margin it's only 3 in 5 days...unless you have a min of 25k...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
If anyone uses power etrade and is looking at the real time quotes. What is the number 50 next to ARCA. I don't see this anywhere else?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
watch ARCA at 1.165
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Buying Pressure building!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Phoenix:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
unless you have a margin account...

Yeah but you still have to watch the roundtrips unless you have $25,000.
I thought it was $20k...I was actually restricted a few months ago...although nothing really changed...just had to trade with cash...i don't even worry about it any longer...

Sorry for the drift...back to FHAL aka mint
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
this has alot more steam built up today than it did yesterday imo
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
50 means a multiplier for the number of shares
 
Posted by Phoenix on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
quote:
Originally posted by Phoenix:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
unless you have a margin account...

Yeah but you still have to watch the roundtrips unless you have $25,000.
I thought it was $20k...I was actually restricted a few months ago...although nothing really changed...just had to trade with cash...i don't even worry about it any longer...

Sorry for the drift...back to FHAL aka mint

Some brokerages seem to be touchier and some more relaxed about roundtrips and also the issue of unsettled funds..it's weird.
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
Tons of buys lined up across the board..the pressures really building
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
How it FHAL doing today?

8668 total trades

$19,837,565 dollars traded

+81% and climbing
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
next walls at 1.22, 1.30 and 1.40 on L2
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
thanks sandor
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
we have hit 1.22 nextis 1.25 then 1.30 arca is at 1.25
 
Posted by Lauralai on :
 
so if i use ameritrade, i just have to have a margin account and 25k, and i can do as many roundtrips as my little heart desires?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
ARCA is pi$$ing me off
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
your welcome fryyguyy
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
arca still at 1.25
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lauralai:
so if i use ameritrade, i just have to have a margin account and 25k, and i can do as many roundtrips as my little heart desires?

YEP!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
ARCA is on the bid side at 101...let's see if it goes that low...
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
Come on MMs move this bad boy up. You're still makin tons of dough
 
Posted by Lauralai on :
 
fantastic! here's to retiring by 30! bring it FHAL!
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Level 2mm ARCA keeping it high. ask price $1.15 small amount

ARCA occasionally sells a small amount of shares on dips but 90% of his shares are held at a high ask price.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
arca 1.16 ask
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Since we're getting to the end of the day, with the way this stock has been moving, so you think more people will be inclined to sell at EOD to lock in profits or do you think more folks will buy at EOD, so they don't miss out for tommorrow.

I'm considering getting some more late today, but if other folks are buying then, then the price will go up. If folks are selling then I'd have a chance to get in lower. Decisions, decisions!

Jo
Where's that crystal ball?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I think that we will close up .50. I don't know how much Rufus is controling the upward pressure on this stock. But going up like this is better than say a dollar a day. Doesn't make for as many dips.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shomethamoney:
I forgot you cannot put the name of the site on this on. I was trying to put the chart up. It looks identical to yesterday's chart except the price is higher.

wow your right... if it kinda "duplicates" yesterdays..... probably close in the 1.10 range give or take a few....
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
temporary dip-arca 1.16 ask --small amount
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
I think this will gap and continue the run to $15 tommorow.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
But if this is going to gap in the AM, buying now would be a good idea. Who knows when the PR is going to come out. Maybe in the pre-opening hours?

Jo
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
next week will be the last week of trading for this, the REAL explosion will begin monday IMO!!!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Daytraders are now leaving the building. Let the buying begin. Don't let them back in.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
lets hope we get that pr tomorrow
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
But if this is going to gap in the AM, buying now would be a good idea. Who knows when the PR is going to come out. Maybe in the pre-opening hours?

Jo

Exactly,

I bet a lot of people wish they bought at the EOD yesterday, instead of after the gap this morning.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Level 2mm ARCA keeping it high. buy 1.05 ask price 1.10 he is flipping
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
could it be possible there is still a short position on this stock and that they need to cover before we get the new ticker symbol? fhal is buying back the float and i think it is almost dried up but the price is still pretty low then so maybe we can also expect a short sqeeuze close to the finalization of this merger? any ideas
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
It seems ARCA may get his shares at 1.05 --a large buy 50x and then it should go up
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
arca buying small amounts between 1.05- 1.10 he is still interested
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
look at the chart from yesterday and it looks close to the same percentage gain as today. I think it will go up like this through the final merger. It will go in large steps like this. JMO.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
coming towards the end of day...most MM's with large numbers are under the $1...all with 25 or better on the bid..interesting..
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think we are really going to move now!
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Buys are coming in awaiting the gap tomorrow. This is fun WWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! GO FHAL!!!
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
ARCA wants push up the price!! 345!!
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
any guesses on EOD price and tomorrows first half hour high? EOD 1.22 and AM high 1.62
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
volume is at an all-time high;) definately be drawing traders attention eh?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
1.15 EOD AM high 1.50
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
EOD push to 1.30s please!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think ARCA is getting filled, I hope we explode after they are out of the way.
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Someone is testing ARCA's wall !
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I am not being greedy..but I would like to close above $1...that's all I am askin'!
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
9,125 trades today. Can't wait till tommorow
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Ok, all I want is a dollar. Damn daytraders.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
MM's grabbin' stop losses?
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
Anyone think it could break 20 million in volume? Its awefully close.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
doing the same thing it did right before lunch now...
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
don't fall for these mm games....they want your shares
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha, this is nuts...
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
come on guys keep hitting that ask
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Its like they knew the stop loses were at a dollar and they needed shares and dropped and got them. Might be some mad people tomorrow morning.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
huge bid volume 25x from >20 mm's. They want in bad! this thing is going up --huge buying pressure last 20 minutes
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
That's done...
Can we move on?
 
Posted by Phoenix on :
 
I just grabbed some more at .99
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
this will continue to go up all week..tomorrow we will retest the 1.5 area
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
who sells... seriously... [Smile]
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
ARCA didn't have enough?
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
huge demand under $1
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *********06:
this will continue to go up all week..tomorrow we will retest the 1.5 area

I think tomarrows HOD will be just over two bucks! hope i`m right!!
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
less than 300k away from 20 mill vol, [Eek!] . Come on baby push over a dollar and hold it!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hey fryyguyyyy what do ya mean? mad ppl tomorrow morning?
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Trying to have everyone dump??
But the 8K sets the proof to the $.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
P Rowds,

Maybe wrong use of words. I know that if I had put a stop loss(and mad a profit). And then have to watch this stock take off tomorrow, I would be upset. Rich, but upset.
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
MM's grabbing shares like crazy...
Is everyone still short?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
funny

bid .96 ask .97

and price 1.01
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
now its time to go up. low ask share amounts with high demand
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha, gotcha fryyy... should have knew what your talking about... my bad...
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I sold some early on. That was a mistake. I kept some and then bought some more at a higher price. I hope tomorrow it starts up again. Otherwise, I may have made a mistake buying in again. I guess I'll see within a few days.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
On Ihub the bashers come out like roaches in the dark. Every time we see it dip below $1.00 there are at least 4 guys saying its a scam..LOL what a bunch of losers.
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
From IHUB


FHAL PR tomorrow per Ben Stanley
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
you crack me up! [Smile] You made no mistake...the real upward movement wont be till next week...daytraders are causing this movement. Don't worry see all the volume? It's there for a reason
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
time will tell...
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 

 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks JUICE...ARe you in?
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
This has "BLAST OFF" written all over its face tomorrow...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
what will that PR talk about tho... that is the question.......... that i did not ask... DOH!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...20mil shares traded...some pennys don't even do that...
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
they are keeping just under $1 to scare us to sell. mm demand still great. Yhis would not be the case if this was going to tank
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
SHOWER TIME EVERYONE!!!!!!! Don't drop the soap!!! LOL [Wink]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
theres your 20...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I don't want a PR tomorrow....I want this move again like it did today so we can flip! and close above todays close...

I think that if they PR tomorrow...the buy backs must be nearly done...IMO...or it is a crappy PR and the PPS falls so that they can grab them cheap...just mu thoughts....
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
This volume is amazing!!!
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
Broke 20 mill, nice!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
STOP the talk about the PR. IF it comes out tomorrow then so be it. Don't want ppl getting mad cause the PR doesn't show tomorrow.
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
closing above $1 and over 20 mil served -- THAT IS SWWWWWWEEEEEEETTTTT!!!
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Back to normal trading..
Up!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
STOP the talk about the PR. IF it comes out tomorrow then so be it. Don't want ppl getting mad cause the PR doesn't show tomorrow.

I agree!! happens all the time!. exspect it when you see it and not before!!!
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
TICK TOCK people making decisions in the last five mins. to make sure they are in for a good gap up tomorrow!!!
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
stocktrader22, I hope you are right. It does make sense that the daytraders are bringing the price down at this time. I am just an old worry wart I guess. Thanks
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
Just got another 5k...refuse be left out in the cold tomorrow morning
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
I can't believe ARCA...
Hope TRAC gives him a challenge!
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Yep - here they come to get on the bus!!!

BUY!! BUY!! BUY!!
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
4k more filled got 5k more to go and tomorrow is sweet green pastures for me
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
YES!!!! above a buck...whoo hooo....let the ride continue!!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:
Originally posted by shomethamoney:
I forgot you cannot put the name of the site on this on. I was trying to put the chart up. It looks identical to yesterday's chart except the price is higher.

wow your right... if it kinda "duplicates" yesterdays..... probably close in the 1.10 range give or take a few....
i was close... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
bid 1.06 ask 1.05 end of day on L2. tommorrow will be very nice!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Almost $70,000 traded in the last minute!!!!
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
last trade was $1.07 at 16:02:09. last three trades at $1.07 on L2 on Microcap feed.
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
And there is so much more news coming!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
yep.. anoher good day tomorrow..
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
What a day [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:
Originally posted by shomethamoney:
I forgot you cannot put the name of the site on this on. I was trying to put the chart up. It looks identical to yesterday's chart except the price is higher.

wow your right... if it kinda "duplicates" yesterdays..... probably close in the 1.10 range give or take a few....
i was close... [Big Grin]
Yea, not bad....so whatcha think, 1.69 tomorrow? heh. Would be a nice trend eh?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
200k buy at 1.46 at 4:14
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
yes thats 200,000 shares roughly $300,000 worth, hmmm, you think tomorrow might be fun?
 
Posted by Homersbud on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
200k buy at 1.46 at 4:14

I saw that too! Insane!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
NEEEEWWWWWS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
holy mother of all that is sacred...please don't make it tank, lol...
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
yes thats 200,000 shares roughly $300,000 worth, hmmm, you think tomorrow might be fun?

you should see the look on my face right now
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
FHAL PR OUT!
KENNESAW, Ga., July 19 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions,
Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: CVSU.PK), (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL), a Delaware
Corporation.
First of all we would like to welcome the FHAL shareholder base (new and
old) to the CVSU family of corporations. As we proceed forward and as contact
numbers are released to the public of CVSU department heads, please feel free
to contact our officers with any questions that you may have; to include
employment opportunities. This is a very exciting venture and the best place
to be in any successful situation is always the on-set.
We would also like to thank the CVSU shareholder base; our success is
because of every single one of you. We have received a lot of calls concerning
the merger details filed in the 8-k with the SEC. The main question is always
concerning Section 2.6, AVERAGE CLOSING PRICE ADJUSTMENT. Hopefully the
following breakdown will suffice;
The FrontHall Group, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL) acquired Conversion
Solutions, Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: CVSU.PK) through a merger agreement
(reorganization).
The merger agreement filed in the form of an 8-K with the Security
Exchange Commission (SEC).
The share conversion upon the 10KSB filing (Audited Financial) will be a 1
for 1 ration. Each shareholder of CVSU will receive one share of FHAL.
Upon the S-4 registration of the CVSU shares received through the merger
agreement, the company will have 3 options at hand.
1.) If the Market Closing Price on the Completion date exceeds $15.00
(Fifteen) USD the Surviving Holdings Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: CVSU)
may option to maintain that days Market Closing Price.
2.) To pay each shareholder that options out an amount in cash equal to
$15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price.
3.) Set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pays no additional
consideration to any shareholders.
About Conversion Solutions, Inc
CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate,
fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market.
CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target
companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset
finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more
effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU is headquartered in
Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us
at www.cvsu.us.
Current Joint Venture Corporations
American International Smart Structure
Brittenum Brothers Entertainment, Inc.
Rocky Road Records, Inc.
Seko Management Inc.
Consolidated Mastering, Inc.

Current wholly owned CVSU Subsidiaries
Tserof Holdings Inc
CVSU Coffee Shop
Equine Solutions, Inc
Stargate Productions, Inc.

Current Waatle Merger Subsidiaries
Live Mortgage Free
Federal Chamber of Commerce
Center State Beverage
LotteryFever
InfinityOne, Inc
Amruss Group, LLC
LoanShoppers.com
SOURCE Conversion Solutions, Inc.


Contact Information:
Rufus Paul Harris, CEO, +1-678-255-7650, Harris*cvsu.us, or Ben F. Stanley, COO, +1-317-213-7700, BenStanley*aol.com, both of Conversion Solutions, Inc.

WebSite:
http://www.cvsu.us
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060719/clw531.html?.v=25
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
NEWS!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
i cant believe it still, its true, its actually true
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...does anyone else have tears of joy right now?
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
YES!!!!! IT's the best thing ...hmm better than chocolate, better than beer? [Wink]
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
What is going to happen when this sets in..people see it...sleepless night tonight:)
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
think it will gap..LOL
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
It is great to see this news come out...
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
omfg 200k shares at $1.46= $292000
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA, PUT YOUR ORDERS IN NOW BOYS AND GIRLS.... AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! hey catia... nope.... no trend anymore!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
this is better than the lunchtime qui...never mind...

if this is real FHAL just bought me my first house...
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
Whos celebrating tomorrow?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
this is better than the lunchtime qui...never mind...

if this is real FHAL just bought me my first house...

Not sure about "better" but damn close!!! [Wink]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Oh boy, im calling Etrade AGAIN first thing in the morning. I MUST make sure all is completely clear and understood to me as we approach this merger. Im assuming i can just sit back and watch the $$$ but with this kind of cash im playing it cautious!
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
Lets have a contest...guess tomorrow's closing price
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
holy christ, rufus will turn into a GOD for all of us
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
$4.012
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
What's funny is that the BUY of 200,000 shares was the exact same time of the PR.. You think that's Rufus's BUY sitting there at 1.46 ? [Smile]

This should ROCKET at the open and blow through $2, IMO!!
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
Can anyone break down the 3 options, and explain them a little clearer, they're kind of word odd imo.

"1.) If the Market Closing Price on the Completion date exceeds $15.00
(Fifteen) USD the Surviving Holdings Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: CVSU)
may option to maintain that days Market Closing Price.
2.) To pay each shareholder that options out an amount in cash equal to
$15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price.
3.) Set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pays no additional
consideration to any shareholders."
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
omfg 200k shares at $1.46= $292000

did u guys see this? at 16:14
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
this will open at 3 to 4 dollars tomorrow...
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
It will open above 2.00
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I told you so. Great news!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Oh boy, im calling Etrade AGAIN first thing in the morning. I MUST make sure all is completely clear and understood to me as we approach this merger. Im assuming i can just sit back and watch the $$$ but with this kind of cash im playing it cautious!

LOL..I guess that answers my question!...LOL
 
Posted by Sean on :
 
OMG, i cant believe it. Is this really going to happen?? Im dancing right now by the way.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
You do realize that if they choose this option

2.) To pay each shareholder that options out an amount in cash equal to
$15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price.

That money is going to the CVSU shareholders. Hopefully they don't choose that one. Congrats on the gains guys. It's been a crazy couple of days.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
im going to call etrade also make sure that I get my money
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Oh boy, im calling Etrade AGAIN first thing in the morning. I MUST make sure all is completely clear and understood to me as we approach this merger. Im assuming i can just sit back and watch the $$$ but with this kind of cash im playing it cautious!

LOL..I guess that answers my question!...LOL
Yupper [Razz]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
I told you so. Great news!

LMAO...yes yes yes you did! GOOD JOB! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
It all makes sense now. If it's over 15 cvsu share holders have the opition to keep it at that amount. If it's less than 15 we will receive the difference. Like I said if its $4 we would get cash for the other $11. If it's at $15 than it will stay the same. Very simple! Hey Doniboy, 10 and all my friends. YEPPPPPPYYYYYY!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
hey that 15 is not needed for me...this will definately to to 10 bucks in the next days and then i am out...not waiting untill D=day...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah now that i've calmed down...

they are CVSU shareholders...as in the guys that are running the company...

does this only apply to them? is this talking in post or pre merger terms...there is a bit of ambiguity here????????????????????????????

please someone say i'm just paranoid!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kt325ci:
You do realize that if they choose this option

2.) To pay each shareholder that options out an amount in cash equal to
$15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price.

That money is going to the CVSU shareholders. Hopefully they don't choose that one. Congrats on the gains guys. It's been a crazy couple of days.

All this is doing is assuring us the $15. We get paid the difference!
 
Posted by Sean on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *********06:
hey that 15 is not needed for me...this will definately to to 10 bucks in the next days and then i am out...not waiting untill D=day...

Im with you.
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
It all makes sense now. If it's over 15 cvsu share holders have the opition to keep it at that amount. If it's less than 15 we will receive the difference. Like I said if its $4 we would get cash for the other $11. If it's at $15 than it will stay the same. Very simple! Hey Doniboy, 10 and all my friends. YEPPPPPPYYYYYY!

If it is 14 we get 1 cash?
 
Posted by JohnDoe on :
 
I'm crying right now...finnaly my mortgage is pay off in FULL... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by VoodooNola:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
It all makes sense now. If it's over 15 cvsu share holders have the opition to keep it at that amount. If it's less than 15 we will receive the difference. Like I said if its $4 we would get cash for the other $11. If it's at $15 than it will stay the same. Very simple! Hey Doniboy, 10 and all my friends. YEPPPPPPYYYYYY!

If it is 14 we get 1 cash?
From my understanding, you got it!
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
Thanks!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
CRAB...i am bothered by that wording also...it's in this statement from the pr...

The share conversion upon the 10KSB filing (Audited Financial) will be a 1 for 1 ration. Each shareholder of CVSU will receive one share of FHAL

I hold FHAL...I get nothin'?
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
No, this difference in $$ is for the CVSU shareholders not the FHAL shareholders.. read it again.

No worries though.. this will be going much higher this week and next!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
"Each shareholder of CVSU will receive one share of FHAL.
Upon the S-4 registration of the CVSU shares received through the merger
agreement, the company will have 3 options at hand."

The statement above breaks down to this;
CVSU current shareholders(CVSU old) will get FHAL shares, then upon the filing of the S-4 which registers the new shares and effects the symbol change. Then All FHAL shareholders (CVSU old shareholders included) become shareholders of the new symbol CVSU which then will be traded at $15. The option for the $15 applies to the new symbol CVSU which includes us as FHAL shareholders.
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iloverufus:
No, this difference in $$ is for the CVSU shareholders not the FHAL shareholders.. read it again.

No worries though.. this will be going much higher this week and next!

So the FHAL shareholders would be garunteed $15 either way or no?
 
Posted by Lauralai on :
 
this is real, right? there's no way they can mess this up?
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i hope the confusion gives me the opportunity to buy more...i think rufus is not alone anymore with buying up the float lol
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
CRAB...i am bothered by that wording also...it's in this statement from the pr...

The share conversion upon the 10KSB filing (Audited Financial) will be a 1 for 1 ration. Each shareholder of CVSU will receive one share of FHAL

I hold FHAL...I get nothin'?

That is what I'm reading as well. The question now is, are we paying for the owners(managers) to make all this cash? This wording has me kinda freaked out now...
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
it can always be messed up,but only if they hijack rufus tomorrow imo lol otherwise this will go through the roof
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I think we need to consolidate all those phone call posts and place is side by side with the PR, and see if they all are saying similar things.

I know those folks who made the phone calls stressed that they were FHAL shareholders, not CVSU shareholders.

Jo
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
"Each shareholder of CVSU will receive one share of FHAL.
Upon the S-4 registration of the CVSU shares received through the merger
agreement, the company will have 3 options at hand."

The statement above breaks down to this;
CVSU current shareholders(CVSU old) will get FHAL shares, then upon the filing of the S-4 which registers the new shares and effects the symbol change. Then All FHAL shareholders (CVSU old shareholders included) become shareholders of the new symbol CVSU which then will be traded at $15. The option for the $15 applies to the new symbol CVSU which includes us as FHAL shareholders.

If the option only applied to current CVSU shareholders then the "options" 1-3 would be in effect now for them. Since the option take place after the S-4 which registers the 111 million shares now in the o/s, current FHAL shareholders are included as participants in the options.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
"Each shareholder of CVSU will receive one share of FHAL.
Upon the S-4 registration of the CVSU shares received through the merger
agreement, the company will have 3 options at hand."

The statement above breaks down to this;
CVSU current shareholders(CVSU old) will get FHAL shares, then upon the filing of the S-4 which registers the new shares and effects the symbol change. Then All FHAL shareholders (CVSU old shareholders included) become shareholders of the new symbol CVSU which then will be traded at $15. The option for the $15 applies to the new symbol CVSU which includes us as FHAL shareholders.

How does that include us as FHAL holders?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
"Each shareholder of CVSU will receive one share of FHAL.
Upon the S-4 registration of the CVSU shares received through the merger
agreement, the company will have 3 options at hand."

The statement above breaks down to this;
CVSU current shareholders(CVSU old) will get FHAL shares, then upon the filing of the S-4 which registers the new shares and effects the symbol change. Then All FHAL shareholders (CVSU old shareholders included) become shareholders of the new symbol CVSU which then will be traded at $15. The option for the $15 applies to the new symbol CVSU which includes us as FHAL shareholders.

How does that include us as FHAL holders?
refer to post above your last post
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
Hey guys check this out!!...

Some say you can't trade after hours on OTCBB. But I know for a fact that you can using certain MM/ECN's. I read somewhere on ARCA's site that you can trade OTCBB after hours upto about 20 or 30 minutes after close.

Well, look at this...

goto www.otcbb.com and lookup FHAL and then look at the Depth/LII.

It looks like someone bought up 200,000 shares after the PR was released. At first I though (like many) that it was just a trade from the trading day... but check out the LEVEL 2, it's ASK at 1.46 already!! I think someone bought up everything from the closing price all the way up to 1.46 (200,000) exactly!

This is going through the roof tomorrow!!!!

Could someone please post this post of mine on IHUB cuz Matt has me in Jail for saying "Fuk'in" sheesh

TIA
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
I read that to be only old CVSU shareholders get it.

"The share conversion upon the 10KSB filing (Audited Financial) will be a 1
for 1 ration. Each shareholder of CVSU will receive one share of FHAL.

Upon the S-4 registration of the CVSU shares received through the merger , the company will have 3 options at hand."
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
The part I am unsure about is HOW can they set the price at $15? I don't think they are guaranteeing it to be $15, but they are using this pre-dtermined price as a basis on which to gauge what to do for the CVSU shareholders. If the avg closing price post merger is less than $15, an option is to pay them the difference per share of $15 minus the closing price on that day.

Am I right here? Jmoove?

Can someone call him to confirm this?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Ok...so after the S-4 is done CVSU shares no longer exist. At this point three options arise, blah, blah and blah...

Am I understanding this correctly?
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
When I called a few days ago and spoke to Ben Stanley, he mentioned that there will be a symbol change to CVSU. He also mentioned that it will be halted for the symbol change. I asked how long and he said it would not take too long for it to go into effect.

Anyone know how long they typically halt trading for a symbol change?

Go FHAL!!!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
I read that to be only old CVSU shareholders get it.

"The share conversion upon the 10KSB filing (Audited Financial) will be a 1
for 1 ration. Each shareholder of CVSU will receive one share of FHAL.

Upon the S-4 registration of the CVSU shares received through the merger , the company will have 3 options at hand."

he key to the PR is that CVSU shareholders turn into FHAL shareholders who all turn into CVSU (new symbol) shareholders. The CVSU shares referred to in the S-4 registration are the "new symbol" CVSU shares. That means that we are eligible for the options.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
it is cvsu share holders. but then they become fhal holders and fhal holders become cvsu holders.... jmoove hit it on the head. this is going to burst IMO however... this will not just open at $15 but i don't think it has too. this thing is going high high high... IMO of course...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
damn you jmooove.... we posted at same time:D
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I have tried both STanley and Rufus...phones are off and message box full...

Jmove...i hope like hell you are right..but the way that I am seeing it is...that

all the FHAL will be given to the current CSVU shareholders...once the merger happens..FHAL and the share holders will no longer be...surviving the "merger" is CSVU...and those share holders will get 1-1 of Our shares...

WE have nothin'...that's what I see right now...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
ok...the back and forth is what had me confused I was missing the conversion back to CVSU shares after CVSU becomes FHAL...

if that is the case me new house is safe...lol...
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
"Each shareholder of CVSU will receive one share of FHAL.
Upon the S-4 registration of the CVSU shares received through the merger
agreement, the company will have 3 options at hand."

The statement above breaks down to this;
CVSU current shareholders(CVSU old) will get FHAL shares, then upon the filing of the S-4 which registers the new shares and effects the symbol change. Then All FHAL shareholders (CVSU old shareholders included) become shareholders of the new symbol CVSU which then will be traded at $15. The option for the $15 applies to the new symbol CVSU which includes us as FHAL shareholders.

Jmoove, Thanks for clearing this up. This is how I understand it, also.
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Jmoove...I bloody well hope you are right. I am going to be rich. But I read it a couple of times and I felt it is only the current CVSU shareholders. This is not to bash as I hold shares in FHAL from 0.15 and hope to make good money on it.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
OK...I'm checkin' another place...I'll be back..
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
jmoove... i dunno if that applies to the new cvsu symbol... are you sure?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I have tried both STanley and Rufus...phones are off and message box full...

Jmove...i hope like hell you are right..but the way that I am seeing it is...that

all the FHAL will be given to the current CSVU shareholders...once the merger happens..FHAL and the share holders will no longer be...surviving the "merger" is CSVU...and those share holders will get 1-1 of Our shares...

WE have nothin'...that's what I see right now...

Current FHAL = ~68 mill shares
Current CVSU = ~43 mill shares
1 for 1 exchange = FHAL 111 mill shares
S-4 then changes FHAL into CVSU (new)
CVSU 111 mill shares are then give the options. Thats the way I see it
 
Posted by eddevee on :
 
Good luck to all in this stock. The way I read it as a practicing lawyer is a merger which means that shareholders in both companies survive the merger. If the shareholders of FHAL were to be eliminated after the merger it would mean that it was a buyout of our shares and not a merger. My opinion.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
we need to hear it from the Man first, someone get Rufus on the line lol
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
The way I understand is, the shares of current shareholders of CVSU (private shareholders) is worth $15. FHAL is worth $1.40. on the 28th, FHAL might be worth $3.5 or say $7. the private shareholders would receive one FHAL share + $7 differential. This way, current CVSU shareholders do not lose anything. crrent FHAL shareholders become shareholders of a larger company, CVSU. this is what is my understanding of the entire scenario. from what I understand, nobody is going to take my $1.46 share on the 28th, and give me differential between $15 and my shares value on the 28th.
am I very happy with that, heck yes. my shares bought at 0.14 have come a long way. IMO we are atleast reaching $7 and thats a 1500% increase of my investment [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
What about the halting when the symbol changes to CVSU? Anyone know how long this typically takes? Ben said there would definitely be a halt, but did not say how long..

Anyone with experience in a stock that changed symbols and halted trading temporarily?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Jmove...i hope like hell you are right..but the way that I am seeing it is...that

all the FHAL will be given to the current CSVU shareholders...once the merger happens..FHAL and the share holders will no longer be...surviving the "merger" is CSVU...and those share holders will get 1-1 of Our shares...

WE have nothin'...that's what I see right now...

So what are you thinking here? Are you thinking that they've bought up all the FHAL shares that they need to give to the CSVU shareholders and that the rest that are in the hands of FHAL shareholders will just drop off the face of the earth because they are not needed?

I'm going to do some research and see if there is some percentage of stocks that needs to be owned before then new company can take over the shell company. I was assuming all along here that they had to buy all the shares.

Jo
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by eddevee:
Good luck to all in this stock. The way I read it as a practicing lawyer is a merger which means that shareholders in both companies survive the merger. If the shareholders of FHAL were to be eliminated after the merger it would mean that it was a buyout of our shares and not a merger. My opinion.

Hey edde, fellow attorney here :-)

(though none of my opinions on this website constitute legal advice)
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
don't we have a financial expert here who specializes in mergers lol i am going nuts of reading all this...i want cash and a new ferrari lol
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
will current FHAL shareholders get 1 for 1 shares of the new CVSU? This would give us potentially 15X current share price? sounds too good

Or will we get one NEW CVSA for X amount of the old FHAL in order to equal $15? ex.) 15 shares FHAL x $1= 1 share of the new CVS($15 value)
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Jmoove...thanks for the calculations of the 111 mill shares. Assume the share price is say at 8 the company would have to pay out 7 (15-8) * 111 million. Thats 777 million dollars as pay-out to shareholders !!! They have bonds and assets of 800+ million. But paying out 777 million or roundabouts doesn't make sense to me. Am I missing something or am I being too critical at myself. Again I am not bashing but wanting a clarification. I hold shares from .15.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i am under the same impression as ruskin. regardless tho, IMO this may have quite a day or two or week... [Wink] IMO that is...
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
What about the symbol change? When will that be and how long will they halt trading for this?

Anyone know?
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
Playing dumb, or am I?

There is no way this thing will open and go lower than a dollar?

Right??

Wish I sold at 1.50 and bought back at 1.06

Oh well.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jordanm:
Jmoove...thanks for the calculations of the 111 mill shares. Assume the share price is say at 8 the company would have to pay out 7 (15-8) * 111 million. Thats 777 million dollars as pay-out to shareholders !!! They have bonds and assets of 800+ million. But paying out 777 million or roundabouts doesn't make sense to me. Am I missing something or am I being too critical at myself. Again I am not bashing but wanting a clarification. I hold shares from .15.

It still sounds too good to be true to me also, but who knows honestly.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iloverufus:
What about the symbol change? When will that be and how long will they halt trading for this?

Anyone know?

talked to rufus yesterday and he said either the 28th-1aug...
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
hehe.. whaever, i am NOT going to sell my remaining shares for anything less than $15 [Big Grin] [Big Grin] .. heck, I have recovered my share of gains from this stock long time back.. now its just wait and see game. tomorrow HUGE gapper and runner... all the way to $15 [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
they're sitting in there offices laughing at all the phone calls packing there bags to go to mexico;) hahaha!!! joke everyone... joke...
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i will ask my private banker tomorrow also and will let you guys know what he has said...can't the guys from the west coast call their bank managers and show them the 8K
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
ruskin - This would be my first major run in a while. I thought having an A in my stats class was exciting up until today!!! C'mon FHAL!!!
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
they're sitting in there offices laughing at all the phone calls packing there bags to go to mexico;) hahaha!!! joke everyone... joke...

Now that makes sense...lol
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Jmoove...thanks. I can't still believe it. But its going to gap up solid tomorrow. I will sell some and ride my free shares. I am still not convinced the math works out right. Maybe I am a pessimist [Smile] . Signing off...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
good call Jmoove, that's how I understand it as well. "After the filing of the s-4" is the key phrase. We know that the symbol will change to CVSU, and we know that we will then all be holders of CVSU. Any wording in the 8-k or PR subsequent to that statement is geared toward all of us.
 
Posted by bigstocks on :
 
Someone trying to tell me that 1.46 buy was just cleaning books. LOL
 
Posted by Sean on :
 
If the Market Closing Price on the Completion date exceeds $15.00 (Fifteen) USD the Surviving Holdings Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: CVSU - News) may option to maintain that days Market Closing Price.

Note the Surviving Holdings Company. Thats us. No need for worry. FHAL shares and CVSU shares are the same. At least thats what i can Interpret.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I see how the PR reads...and I went back to the 8K...in the 8k..I am "happier"..but that PR was a little scarey for a few minutes..

all of this won't happen until the merger is complete...and at that time I will then be a "CSVU" share holder...now i am seeing it...you all will have to take a look at the 8k...
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
It is interesting that 200,000 shares were bought at $1.46 per share. Not quite sure why the big jump. Hopefully, it will gap up tomorrow morning. When will the new symbol change? anyone know...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah i'll admit I haven't really read everything about the 8K yet...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
we'll see how this works out, no doubt that this will open significantly higher than it is now
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
it will gap up like CRAZY no doubt about that and i am afraid we all have to chase it
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
Here's my take on everything.

Current FHAL = ~68 mill shares
Current CVSU = ~43 mill shares

S-4 registers 43 million FHAL shares for the 1:1 exchange to CVSU shareholders

The CVSU shareholders will be paid in cash the difference of $15 - FHAL closing price.

After this is done the symbol will change to CVSU.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
My honest opinion is that either way this is going up.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I AM ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY SHAKING HERE. DO WE HAVE A GUARANTEED 15 BAGGER FROM HERE????????????????????????????????

WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kt325ci:
Here's my take on everything.

Current FHAL = ~68 mill shares
Current CVSU = ~43 mill shares

S-4 registers 43 million FHAL shares for the 1:1 exchange to CVSU shareholders

The CVSU shareholders will be paid in cash the difference of $15 - FHAL closing price.

After this is done the symbol will change to CVSU.

Yes, i just got off the phone with an Etrade rep and after us both mulling it over for a while we also came up with this. FHAL holders are going to continue on with our ride and CVSU will jump on board with 1 to 1, their stock for ours. But, since they are much higher valued they will get the difference between their value and ours.

Id like to believe that FHAL will then spike up into that range anyway but it could take a lonnnnnng time....if it does.

Im as confused as everyone else so dont take my post as fact. [Smile]
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey guys, just play it like it was an everyday stock, dont let emotions cloud your judgement, get your initial investment out and ride the free shares, if you can and are brave enought flip it on the way up, just remember not to get greedy, if you are riding free shares if it goes it goes and if it doesnt go all the way to 15 you sell and still make money
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruthie:
When will the new symbol change? anyone know...

OK EVERYBODY... SAID IT MANY TIMES NOW... TO ALL WHO READ THE THREAD...... MR. RUFUS HARRIS SAID ON THE PHONE YESTERDAY, ACCORDING TO HIM, THE TICKER CHANGE WILL TAKE PLACE 28JUL-AUG1... just wanna make sure everyone reads that. that was what i was told and if i can talk to him tomorrow i will ask again. if they changd that date... well, i didn't lie... go back to previous posts it's what i was told
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
If it hits 15.00, when and where will the party be?

Should we all meet in Tahiti or something ?
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Thanks P Rowds, I must not have paid attention before..
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i'll call right away in the morning but they probably aren't gonna be answering as frequently;) but i see it as fhal continues but cvsu shareholders get the 3 options... but who knows till someone gets a hold of em. time will tell once again:)

EDIT: i hope your right tho jmoove haha, as well has hundreds of others...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
My honest opinion is that either way this is going up.

Yep! Ride it up and enjoy! take Capital out...and then decide along the way...but for now..UP..regardless! IMO!
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Right on!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
phones don't even ring anymore haha...
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
mm's are going to come out like fat ratt's on all this confusion, thats the only thing that is guaranted. Not holding anymore but I am enjoying reading this thread.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
My honest opinion is that either way this is going up.

Yep! Ride it up and enjoy! take Capital out...and then decide along the way...but for now..UP..regardless! IMO!
Yea, I beleive we have a bright future ahead of us, it just might not be 2 weeks from now hehe. But its ok, I can wait.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Ok, I think I finally got this figured out - this is all C/P from the 8K:

THIS MERGER AGREEMENT (this "Agreement" ), dated as of the 8th day of July, 2006, is by and among:

FRONTHAUL GROUP INC., a Delaware corporation (the "Buyer" ); and

Conversion Solutions, Inc., a Delaware corporation and a holding company (the "Company" ).

FHAL and CVSU intend to file an S-4 registration statement / prospectus in connection with the proposed Merger for the registration of the CVSU share pursuant to the Merger agreement.


2.2 COMPANY SHARES.

(a) Each share of the Company's capital stock (the " Company Shares " ), par value $0.001 per share, issued and outstanding immediately prior to the Effective Time shall, by virtue of the Merger and without any action on the part of the holders thereof, be canceled and converted at the Effective Time into the right to receive the Merger Consideration (as defined below) in accordance with this ARTICLE II.

(b) Each Company Share , by virtue of the Merger and without any action on the part of the holder thereof, shall at the Effective Time no longer be outstanding, shall be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist, and each holder of certificates representing any such Company Shares shall thereafter cease to have any rights with respect to such shares, except for the right to receive the Merger Consideration.

(c) Notwithstanding anything contained in this Section 2.2 to the contrary, any Company Shares held in the treasury of the Company immediately prior to the Effective Time shall be canceled without any conversion thereof, and no payment shall be made with respect thereto.

(d) From and after the Effective Time of the Merger, there shall be no transfers on the stock transfer books of the Surviving Holding Company of Company Shares that were outstanding immediately prior to the Effective Time. If, after the Effective Time, certificates representing Company Shares are presented to the Surviving Holding Company, they shall be canceled, and exchanged for the Merger Consideration as provided for herein.

2.3 MERGER CONSIDERATION.

(a) Subject to Sections 2.2, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6 and 2.8 , at the Effective Time, the holders of Company Shares outstanding at the Effective Time, other than the Buyer and its Affiliates, shall be entitled to receive, and the Buyer shall issue and deliver, for each Company Share held by such Person: (i) 1.0 share of the Buyer's stock or

(b) No fractional shares of the Buyer's Stock shall be issued or delivered in connection with the Merger. Instead, the number of shares of the Buyer's Stock to which a holder of the Company Shares is entitled to receive pursuant to this Article II shall be rounded to the nearest whole share (with 0.5 share rounded up to the nearest whole share).

(c) In the event the Buyer changes the number of shares of the Buyer's Stock issued and outstanding prior to the Effective Time as a result of a stock split, stock dividend or other distribution payable in Buyer's Stock or securities convertible into Buyer's Stock or similar recapitalization with respect to such stock or effects a reclassification, combination or other change with respect to Buyer's Stock (each a "Stock Adjustment" ) and the record date therefore (in the case of a stock dividend) or the effective date thereof (in the case of a stock split or similar recapitalization, reclassification or combination for which a record date is not established) shall be prior to the Effective Time.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


It sounds as though the old CVSU shares are the only ones being offered per the S4 and if so entitled to the options.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
The thing that bothers me is, Rufus said to me on the phone that "Yes, FHAL will be worth $15 a share at time of merger". I wouldnt think it would be legal for him to say this as a way to pump FHAL shares. Of course he wants FHAL as close to $15 at time of merger but he can not manipulate right?
 
Posted by bloodykitten on :
 
Hi first post..iv been lurking in this board for less than 2 weeks so please to forgive.

regarding FHAL I read it like this.

.1. IF the stock goes up past $15, Rufus will give CVSU share holders FHAL stock on a 1 to 1 ratio and then after filing the S-4 and symbloe the stock will open at market .

2. IF the stock closes under $15, Rufus will let CVSU take the difference in cash of closing price from the $15, then take a 1 to 1 ration of FHAL, then after the filing of the S-4 and symbole change the stock will open at market prices.

IT WILL BE IMPORTANT FOR RUFUS TO HAVE THE STOCK AT $15 OR MORE TO KEEP THE CVSU SHARESHOLDERS FROM TAKING THIS OPTION. THIS CAN BE A WORST CASE SCENERIO FOR US FHAL HOLDERS AS THE STOCK CAN REOPEN AFTER S-4 AND SYMBOL CHANGE UNDER $15.

3. CVSU share holders will get a 1 to 1 ratio in FHAL stock, then after the S-4 and symbole change the price will me set at $15 pps and Rufus owes noone anything and the market will determn the new price.

Please to fogive spelling and grammar as I am typing fast cause im excite as im in deep in FHAL stock and I love you all for making me rich
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Grr dangit, quoted myself again!!
The thing that bothers me is, Rufus said to me on the phone that "Yes, FHAL will be worth $15 a share at time of merger". I wouldnt think it would be legal for him to say this as a way to pump FHAL shares. Of course he wants FHAL as close to $15 as possible at time of merger but he can not manipulate right?
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Have attempted to call up "Conversion Solutions, Inc." and/or CVSU.PK through Scottrade tools and get a return message of "The symbol you entered was not found.". Also tried another site (YAhoo Finance) and received a display of goose-eggs and N/A's in all fields with a last trade time of Dec 31.

Where are y'all find hard data on CVSU besides references in sec filings like the 8K?

TY and GLTA
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
The other thing that leads me to believe that we are all included, logically, is the option to simply open the price at $15. Similarly, the other two options seem to take into account the price of CVSU (new) when it opens. That means that we are included in the pps bc CVSU (new) includes us. We'll have to wait and see.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
Have attempted to call up "Conversion Solutions, Inc." and/or CVSU.PK through Scottrade tools and get a return message of "The symbol you entered was not found.". Also tried another site (YAhoo Finance) and received a display of goose-eggs and N/A's in all fields with a last trade time of Dec 31.

Where are y'all find hard data on CVSU besides references in sec filings like the 8K?

TY and GLTA

cvsu isn't publicly traded as of yet. private shareholders. but after ticker change it will be publicly traded...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
Have attempted to call up "Conversion Solutions, Inc." and/or CVSU.PK through Scottrade tools and get a return message of "The symbol you entered was not found.". Also tried another site (YAhoo Finance) and received a display of goose-eggs and N/A's in all fields with a last trade time of Dec 31.

Where are y'all find hard data on CVSU besides references in sec filings like the 8K?

TY and GLTA

They are privately traded which I think is probably why there is no data in the fields, only 0's. But, to answer your question....i have no idea where to get that type of info on them. cvsu.us is their website tho i think
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Thank You Rowds...had not picked up on Conversion being a private concern.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
"Each shareholder of CVSU will receive one share of FHAL.
Upon the S-4 registration of the CVSU shares received through the merger
agreement, the company will have 3 options at hand."

The statement above breaks down to this;
CVSU current shareholders(CVSU old) will get FHAL shares, then upon the filing of the S-4 which registers the new shares and effects the symbol change. Then All FHAL shareholders (CVSU old shareholders included) become shareholders of the new symbol CVSU which then will be traded at $15. The option for the $15 applies to the new symbol CVSU which includes us as FHAL shareholders.

BINGO! When I called the company I made sure it involved FHAL shareholders. Best explaination yet!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Welcome aboard bloody kitten...and good luck in this ride...!!!!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
The other thing that leads me to believe that we are all included, logically, is the option to simply open the price at $15. Similarly, the other two options seem to take into account the price of CVSU (new) when it opens. That means that we are included in the pps bc CVSU (new) includes us. We'll have to wait and see.

Or by doing a R/S to get the price there, they have that option per the 8K.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
cass i did too... but, it just doesn't make sense why they'd give hundreds, hell thousands, a free winning lotto ticket... ya know...? just seems fishy. i'm still in, i wanna know how this will pan out but will watch very closely. i hope i get one of the two on the phone first thing in the morning. damn it, i'm not gonna sleep tonight.... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Guys...here's something I found in the 8k. Did a lot of DD. Please do your own DD. This is my interpretation. Please do not rely on my DD and do your own DD.

As per the 8k.
"6 AVERAGE CLOSING PRICE ADJUSTMENT.
In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2 nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price; (b) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ) an amount in cash equal to $15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price per share of Buyer's Stock to be received by such holders of Company Shares; or (c) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay no additional consideration to the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ). In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date."

Also some more notes from the 8K
Definitions
"Company" has the meaning given to it in the introductory paragraph hereof.
"Buyer" has the meaning given to it in the introductory paragraph hereof.
"Surviving Holding Company" has the meaning given to it in Section 2.1(a).


Introductory paragraph :
MERGER AGREEMENT
THIS MERGER AGREEMENT (this "Agreement"), dated as of the 8th day of July, 2006, is by and among:
FRONTHAUL GROUP INC., a Delaware corporation (the "Buyer"); and
Conversion Solutions, Inc., a Delaware corporation and a holding company (the "Company").

Section 2.1(a)
Also "Surviving Holding Company" has the meaning given to it in Section 2.1(a).
2.1. THE MERGER.
(a) The Merger. On the terms and subject to the conditions of this Agreement, the Plan of Merger in respect of the Merger, which shall be substantially in the form attached hereto as EXHIBIT A, and Delaware Law, the Company shall merge into the Buyer, the separate existence of the Company shall cease, and the Buyer shall be the surviving corporation (the "Surviving Holding Company") and shall continue its corporate existence under the laws of the State of Delaware.

What this means is that CVSU is the "Company". FHAL is the "Buyer" and the new CVSU is the Surviving Holding Company. So the $15 is for the CVSU shareholders. Am I missing something here ??????

Either way I think this is going to gap up and run tomorrow. Enjoy the ride. This was just my DD. Please do your own DD and decide. Best of luck.
 
Posted by bloodykitten on :
 
Of course he wants FHAL as close to $15 as possible at time of merger but he can not manipulate right?


He can manipulate the stock just by buying up the float and raising the price by simple supply and demand.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jmoove:
Or by doing a R/S to get the price there, they have that option per the 8K.

where is that in the 8k... i missed that
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Paragraph (c)

2.3 MERGER CONSIDERATION.

(a) Subject to Sections 2.2, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6 and 2.8 , at the Effective Time, the holders of Company Shares outstanding at the Effective Time, other than the Buyer and its Affiliates, shall be entitled to receive, and the Buyer shall issue and deliver, for each Company Share held by such Person: (i) 1.0 share of the Buyer's stock or

(b) No fractional shares of the Buyer's Stock shall be issued or delivered in connection with the Merger. Instead, the number of shares of the Buyer's Stock to which a holder of the Company Shares is entitled to receive pursuant to this Article II shall be rounded to the nearest whole share (with 0.5 share rounded up to the nearest whole share).

(c) In the event the Buyer changes the number of shares of the Buyer's Stock issued and outstanding prior to the Effective Time as a result of a stock split, stock dividend or other distribution payable in Buyer's Stock or securities convertible into Buyer's Stock or similar recapitalization with respect to such stock or effects a reclassification, combination or other change with respect to Buyer's Stock (each a "Stock Adjustment" ) and the record date therefore (in the case of a stock dividend) or the effective date thereof (in the case of a stock split or similar recapitalization, reclassification or combination for which a record date is not established) shall be prior to the Effective Time.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
I remember some people calling and Rufus specifically said us FHAL shareholders would receive $15 and wouldn't do a R/S
This was confirmed by many callers. We'll see what happens
 
Posted by rfelmet on :
 
Is it too late to pick up some of the FHAL?
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
That's why Rufus would try his best to buyback as much shares needed to push the FHAL price as close to $15 as possible.

Then he would not have to pay for the premium difference between the two stock...

Correct?
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
I remember some people calling and Rufus specifically said us FHAL shareholders would receive $15 and wouldn't do a R/S
This was confirmed by many callers. We'll see what happens

If that were the case then why didn't they just come out and say that in the PR today?
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kt325ci:
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
I remember some people calling and Rufus specifically said us FHAL shareholders would receive $15 and wouldn't do a R/S
This was confirmed by many callers. We'll see what happens

If that were the case then why didn't they just come out and say that in the PR today?
good point, this PR just seems to be a copy from the 8K and doesn't really say anything new
 
Posted by bloodykitten on :
 
""That's why Rufus would try his best to buyback as much shares needed to push the FHAL price as close to $15 as possible.

Then he would not have to pay for the premium difference between the two stock...

Correct?""

That is the way I read it. If he can let the market drive up the price, it would save him from paying the difference to any CVSU shareholder who took the option.
 
Posted by romberry on :
 
I think people better read the that press release again and do it slowly and carefully. I don't think it says exactly what a lot of people seem to think it says. Compare it very carefully (and I do mean very carefully) with special attention on the terms and definitions as outlined in the SEC Form 8-K.

I also suggest that you take a minute to look up the address for CVSU as is presently listed on their home page at CVSU.US. The address 125 TownPark Drive Suite 300. Kennesaw, GA 30144 is nothing more than a "virtual office" (see regus.com) shared by dozens of other "companies" ranging from private investigators to a small fitness center to carpet and rug companies.

As for share price and what will or won't be paid out to shareholders, where exactly is it that all the capital required to pay this difference going to come from? If this company and its pricipals have the equivalent of 15 dollars per share in capital lying around, why on earth would the best use of it be to pay out enormous these gains to shareholders?

Has anyone looked at the last 10QSB at Edgar? As of March, the company (FrontHaul) had a negative net worth of nearly 2 million dollars. CVSU, being an unaudited pink sheet stock with no reporting requirements, doesn't even have anything on file . Where did these supposed 800 million dollar in assets come from? Did they materialize out of thin air? If you are relying on thier unaudited balance sheet, why not ask yourself how a company that supposedly has 843 million dollars of assets was able to generate not one single penny of income from January through March of this year. 300+ million in UCC notes? Do you even know what a UCC note is? 500 million in long terms bonds? Who issued those bonds? Is that their face value? Are they marketable? And why is a company with 800 million dollars in assets (but no income) interested in merging with a money losing company that has a negative cash flow and negative net worth?

I'm glad that a lot of people have made a lot of money here and I'm certainly open to someone looking all these things over and telling me where exactly I'm wrong but as of this moment I'd say something doesn't smell right. Proceed with caution.
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
bloodykitten...who are the current CVSU shareholders ? Thats what I am trying to find out. Is it just Rufus and Ben ? Are they the ones going to get the difference ? I am trying to get some information through my DD, but am not able to find anything. Will keep trying. So basically is it just a re-distribution of their capital in the current CVSU share capital ? They have invested around 800 million + in current CVSU.
 
Posted by bloodykitten on :
 
Hope this is ok to cut and paste..But this is from http://www.**************.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40038&page=438

""well i would like to correct wally a bit here.

FHAL---- 68 million shares, these are the shares that are currently trading

CVSU---- 43 million shares, held privately by the CVSU shareholders, none of us own these shares

CVSU---- shareholders will get $15 per share no matter what----even if FHAL closes at $10.00 on July 28th

All FHAL shares will be canceled on JULY 28TH. For every share of FHAL you have on JULY 28TH you will get one share of CVSU. CVSU will open at the close of the former closing price of FHAL.

The shareholders of the privately held CVSU which is none of us will be compensated if the close is under $15.00 per share.
""

I think this person has it right to a point. CVSU shareholders(THEM) will get $15 in stock+ cash of the NEW CVSU.

And US holders of FHAL, when convereted to the new stock will get market prices UNLESS Rufus sets the NEW CVSU pps at $15 as stated in option 3.
 
Posted by romberry on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Newbie7:
That's why Rufus would try his best to buyback as much shares needed to push the FHAL price as close to $15 as possible.

Where is Rufus getting the capital to buy all of these shares?
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
nobody that holds shares of FHAL currently is going to get paid $15 a share or the difference of pps and $15 2 weeks down the road UNLESS the stock naturally rises up to $15 over the ensuing weeks. those pr's are addressed to current cvsu shareholders more than they are to fhal holders. I dont know this but I'm sure the current value of cvsu is somewhere around $15. the pr is guaranteeing the cvsu shareholders that they will not loose out when the ticker changes...im sure rufus would like to have the share value rise so that he doesnt have to pay any diffence or as little as possible and that is why the confusing pr's to make it seem like there is a $15 future for us. i dont bash nor do i pump but simply state what is most logical to myself.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by romberry:
I think people better read the that press release again and do it slowly and carefully. I don't think it says exactly what a lot of people seem to think it says. Compare it very carefully (and I do mean very carefully) with special attention on the terms and definitions as outlined in the SEC Form 8-K.

I also suggest that you take a minute to look up the address for CVSU as is presently listed on their home page at CVSU.US. The address 125 TownPark Drive Suite 300. Kennesaw, GA 30144 is nothing more than a "virtual office" (see regus.com) shared by dozens of other "companies" ranging from private investigators to a small fitness center to carpet and rug companies.

As for share price and what will or won't be paid out to shareholders, where exactly is it that all the capital required to pay this difference going to come from? If this company and its pricipals have the equivalent of 15 dollars per share in capital lying around, why on earth would the best use of it be to pay out enormous these gains to shareholders?

Has anyone looked at the last 10QSB at Edgar? As of March, the company (FrontHaul) had a negative net worth of nearly 2 million dollars. CVSU, being an unaudited pink sheet stock with no reporting requirements, doesn't even have anything on file . Where did these supposed 800 million dollar in assets come from? Did they materialize out of thin air? If you are relying on thier unaudited balance sheet, why not ask yourself how a company that supposedly has 843 million dollars of assets was able to generate not one single penny of income from January through March of this year. 300+ million in UCC notes? Do you even know what a UCC note is? 500 million in long terms bonds? Who issued those bonds? Is that their face value? Are they marketable? And why is a company with 800 million dollars in assets (but no income) interested in merging with a money losing company that has a negative cash flow and negative net worth?

I'm glad that a lot of people have made a lot of money here and I'm certainly open to someone looking all these things over and telling me where exactly I'm wrong but as of this moment I'd say something doesn't smell right. Proceed with caution.

Why would we spend our time trying to explain the reasoning, the advantages to both companies, where to find answers to all your questions?? Have you read every post on every board out there? All of your questions have been addressed in previous posts and are there for you to find. You are new and definetly have a motive, call the CEO, read "every" post then return with your questions. GLTY
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
nobody that holds shares of FHAL currently is going to get paid $15 a share or the difference of pps and $15 2 weeks down the road UNLESS the stock naturally rises up to $15 over the ensuing weeks. those pr's are addressed to current cvsu shareholders more than they are to fhal holders. I dont know this but I'm sure the current value of cvsu is somewhere around $15. the pr is guaranteeing the cvsu shareholders that they will not loose out when the ticker changes...im sure rufus would like to have the share value rise so that he doesnt have to pay any diffence or as little as possible and that is why the confusing pr's to make it seem like there is a $15 future for us. i dont bash nor do i pump but simply state what is most logical to myself.

That is funny why does it say CVSU.ob, this will not exist until after the merger, get it?? The options are listed after CVSU.ob with is the post-merged company, including FHAL..
 
Posted by bloodykitten on :
 
""nobody that holds shares of FHAL currently is going to get paid $15 a share""

Not according to option 3 of the PR.

If the FHAL closes at $10 and reopens under the new symbol at the close of 10$, Rufus reserves the right just to set the opening pps at $15 just to avoid paying $5/share to the orignal CVSU share holders.
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Can someone confirm again that there will not be a R/S?
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
"If the FHAL closes at $10 and reopens under the new symbol at the close of 10$, Rufus reserves the right just to set the opening pps at $15 just to avoid paying $5/share to the orignal CVSU share holders. "

The problem with that theory is that the market determines a stock's value,not rufus...if a company opens with a pps of $15 but nobody is willing to buy for that much, the stock price plummets to where traders feel that the company is worth.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
no one can confirm anything just that rufus said that there wouldn't be... everyone lets just wait and see what happens tomorrow and not eat each others heads off...
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
i think people are going to realize this and a possible sell off tomarrow...
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
i think people are going to realize this and a possible sell off tomarrow...

The information from the PR is exactly the same information from the 8K which was released earlier, and yet here we are above a dollar. Nothing's changed, I don't believe this pr with no new information would cause a sell off when the 8K form caused an upward movement to where it is now
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
yayplaya,
Are you in need of shares?
 
Posted by bloodykitten on :
 
""The problem with that theory is that the market determines a stock's value,not rufus...if a company opens with a pps of $15 but nobody is willing to buy for that much, the stock price plummets to where traders feel that the company is worth.""

Thats true. Even if that happens, Rufus still doesnt have to pay any money out to the orignal CVSU share holders.

But consider this. Rufus and other officers of CVSU might have extreme confedence that the new CVSU stock will be extremly under valued at $15 pps and have no fear that there will be buyers
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
i think people are going to realize this and a possible sell off tomarrow...

Realize what? Realize that a PR stating that the shareholders of the new company, CVSU.ob (FHAL +old CVSU), will get $15 per share. I seriously doubt this will cause anything to go lower, what we will realize is how fast you will be chasing to get in
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
You people go from happy to sad to happy to confused. Instead of trying to look 1,000 feet into this, why not wait and make a few calls and we'll see. Geese, some of you are $30,000 or more richer right now and you are complaining about whether or not we'll reach $15 or not. My bet is it will be there by the close and thats enough for me. Do you all really think Rufus is going to pay an $11 dollar premium to his shareholders. Come on get a grip people.
 
Posted by bloodykitten on :
 
Also, ever person who said called Rufus has the same thing to say. Rufus said that FHAL shareholders will get $15 per share.

Sounds like the 3rd option has already been determned IF the close price of the 28 isnt $15.

Only makes sense, they won't have to pay any cash out.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
from ihub:
doubter turned believer, YOU BE THE JUDGE:
I could not reach Rufus on the cell so I called the next man in line: Ben Stanley

Chief Operating Officer

Cell Phone: 317-213-7700

I asked him if FHAL share holders were going to get the 15 pps? He said yes they will!
I agian asked the same question and added or are just the original cvsu shareholders getting the 15 he said no both are getting the 15!
I again said so both current CVSU and FHAL shareholders are going to receive 15 pps and he said yes!

Please do not go on my word call him yourself I am just relaying my conversatiojn that I just had with him!
 
Posted by romberry on :
 
[/QUOTE]Why would we spend our time trying to explain the reasoning, the advantages to both companies, where to find answers to all your questions?? Have you read every post on every board out there? All of your questions have been addressed in previous posts and are there for you to find. You are new and definetly have a motive, call the CEO, read "every" post then return with your questions. GLTY [/QB][/QUOTE]

That's not an answer. I have been reading and doing DD just as hard as I can. I don't have any "motive" so you can stick that sort of thick headed response in the toilet. I'm looking at a balance sheet for a company that says it has 800 million+ in assets and yet generated not a single penny of income. I'm looking at the balance sheet for another company that has accountants saying that it's future as a going concern is not assured due to the fact it has negative net worth and is losing money hand over fist but for some reason this money losing company is now the target of a takeover/merger? Know what else? I spent a lot of time going through the various pages of the CVSU.US web site. Horse stables? An address at a virtual office that is shared by many other companies?

If I have motive here it is simply to find out the answers to some of these questions and to find out why so many people seem willing to ignore the numbers and read what they want to read into press releases that don't say what they have convinced themselves that they say.

People buying FHAL are NOT going to get the difference between the share price and 15 bucks when this merger closes. That would be fiscally insane on so many levels that it defies description.

Do you know what UCC notes are? UCC notes are simply "uniform commercial code promissary notes" and they are often not worth the paper they are printed on. You but up 100 million dollars of defaulted car loans for 10 grand and you have yourself 100 million dollars worth of UCC notes. Good luck getting any money out of them.

Bonds? Bonds are only as good as the issuing authority. I want to know where these half a fricking billion dollars in "long terms bonds" come from. You won't get that info on the laugher of a balance sheet.

I don't own this issue. I don't plan on buying this issue. I don't work for a broker, a market maker and I don't have any relationship at all with anyonne anywhere who has any financial interest in this stock what so ever. If I had bought in for 11 cents a share, I'd sell and be happy and not the least bit concerned about whatever the final outcome is. But I didn't buy in at .11 or .26 and I'm not about to buy in at a buck or more. All I asked was for someone to show me where I'm wrong. It's pretty apparent that you want to see ulterior motives where non exist and it's also apparent that you don't have the answers.

All I am saying is that these numbers do not add up...and they don't. If CVSU has nearly a billion dollars in real assets, then FHAL has nothing to offer them. An OTC:BB ticker just ain't that hard to get.

Now then, is there anyone here that might like to actually address the concerns in my earlier post?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
ROMBERRY, "I don't own this issue. I don't plan on buying this issue. I don't work for a broker, a market maker and I don't have any relationship at all with anyonne anywhere who has any financial interest in this stock what so ever. If I had bought in for 11 cents a share, I'd sell and be happy and not the least bit concerned about whatever the final outcome is. But I didn't buy in at .11 or .26 and I'm not about to buy in at a buck or more. All I asked was for someone to show me where I'm wrong."

Then why are you here. If you don't own it then why take the time to write.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
I think it would be best for you to call and question your concerns with the COO or CEO, maybe tell them there money/assests are no good. Best of luck to you, any answer I or anyone else gives will not satisfy you, please call and find out for yourself...my only worry is that by the time you find your answers we will be far higher in PPS
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
isnt it possible though, that there's things we shareholders don't know yet? Some on ihub were told on the phone that we would get a wave of PR's, starting this week. Im not trying to find excuses to defend this stock, though being long I'm biased of course [Wink]
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by romberry:

Why would we spend our time trying to explain the reasoning, the advantages to both companies, where to find answers to all your questions?? Have you read every post on every board out there? All of your questions have been addressed in previous posts and are there for you to find. You are new and definetly have a motive, call the CEO, read "every" post then return with your questions. GLTY [/QUOTE]

That's not an answer. I have been reading and doing DD just as hard as I can. I don't have any "motive" so you can stick that sort of thick headed response in the toilet. I'm looking at a balance sheet for a company that says it has 800 million+ in assets and yet generated not a single penny of income. I'm looking at the balance sheet for another company that has accountants saying that it's future as a going concern is not assured due to the fact it has negative net worth and is losing money hand over fist but for some reason this money losing company is now the target of a takeover/merger? Know what else? I spent a lot of time going through the various pages of the CVSU.US web site. Horse stables? An address at a virtual office that is shared by many other companies?

If I have motive here it is simply to find out the answers to some of these questions and to find out why so many people seem willing to ignore the numbers and read what they want to read into press releases that don't say what they have convinced themselves that they say.

People buying FHAL are NOT going to get the difference between the share price and 15 bucks when this merger closes. That would be fiscally insane on so many levels that it defies description.

Do you know what UCC notes are? UCC notes are simply "uniform commercial code promissary notes" and they are often not worth the paper they are printed on. You but up 100 million dollars of defaulted car loans for 10 grand and you have yourself 100 million dollars worth of UCC notes. Good luck getting any money out of them.

Bonds? Bonds are only as good as the issuing authority. I want to know where these half a fricking billion dollars in "long terms bonds" come from. You won't get that info on the laugher of a balance sheet.

I don't own this issue. I don't plan on buying this issue. I don't work for a broker, a market maker and I don't have any relationship at all with anyonne anywhere who has any financial interest in this stock what so ever. If I had bought in for 11 cents a share, I'd sell and be happy and not the least bit concerned about whatever the final outcome is. But I didn't buy in at .11 or .26 and I'm not about to buy in at a buck or more. All I asked was for someone to show me where I'm wrong. It's pretty apparent that you want to see ulterior motives where non exist and it's also apparent that you don't have the answers.

All I am saying is that these numbers do not add up...and they don't. If CVSU has nearly a billion dollars in real assets, then FHAL has nothing to offer them. An OTC:BB ticker just ain't that hard to get.

Now then, is there anyone here that might like to actually address the concerns in my earlier post? [/QB][/QUOTE]


Moron one of the easiest way to go public is for the bigger private company to merge with a smaller public shell company. GET OUTTA HERE before I send somebody down to your hicktown. F'ing playa hater!!!! wish you bought at 11 cents. Your dumbass wouldn't be so frustrated right now
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
isnt it possible though, that there's things we shareholders don't know yet? Some on ihub were told on the phone that we would get a wave of PR's, starting this week. Im not trying to find excuses to defend this stock, though being long I'm biased of course [Wink]

Bingo, from Rufus: large contracts in the works, NASDAQ listing, JV's and subsidiarys all to PR'd
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
I am going to try and go to CVSU's address listed on thier site tomorrow. I live about 15min away from Kennesaw..

On second thought, I date a girl in kennesaw, Im heading there tonight, Im gonna leave early and see if i can at least find a building with thier name on it..

Camera in hand, and microrecorder in pocket [Big Grin] we shall see tomorrow. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by bloodykitten on :
 
This form another forum. Don't know who its from or to. Sounds interesting and very well thought out.


Dancer, I'll take a shot at a few of your questions.

The news came out six days ago, and some of us bought in right away. That led to a 100% pps spike. However, in penny land, runners are like mayflies: they have a very short life, and most "players" were assuming this was just a standard one day momo play

Many more serious investors had to really understand the terms of the merger agreement. This is a reverse merger, which is a little more exotic than a standard merger, and is done primarily when a more succcessful, well capitalized corporation acquires a less successful company which has the good fortune to be a compliant, clean record, Nasdaq or OTCBB listed firm.

Although there are other examples of stocks running up based on the value of the acquiring company, and the new book value, those examples are not well known, and everyone need to find out for themselves.

Over the course of three four days, people on this board, and HSM as well, took it on themselves to make phone calls to he officers and CEO of FHAL/CVSU, to get the word directly. that led to a "OhmyGodit'sTrue" moment.

Word that the $15 pps is virtually guaranteed (and nothing, ni my mind is 100% guaranteed) spread overnight through the boards, causing this stock to rise 215% on just DD, and boards.

As far as why the price isn't closer to the $15 price, all we can say is: hang out and wait a bit. A week isn't too much to ask.

We have had confirmation from the company that they have been buying up the float, and the stock has certainly been trading like a low float rocket.

Nevertheless, there will always be daytraders,momentum players, who are going to look for their 35-50% day gains and sell. This will lead to periodic pauses on FHAL's ascent. I can't guarantee you won't see some selloffs that may make you wonder what's going on. But if a big dayplayer bought up 200K shares, and has just sold those after doubling his money, it will affect the stock price. What I've seen, however, that there seem to be plenty of buyers waiting to pick up stock on good dips. Nice sign.

We have not even had a PR on this company, or a major profile by a stock analyst yet. MarketWatch did include FHAL in a list of three stocks to watch (it was the only OTCBB, I might add) But we are expecting more this week.

If FHAL performed the way it did yesterday, on news, I can only imagine where it will go with more spotlight attention.

Remember, CVSU wants the stock price to go up as much as possible. If the stock is at $15 the day of the completion, they will have to pay nothing to any shareholders. Therefore, it is our impression they will be pumping this as much as we hope they will. It is in both our interests.

In addition, CVSU is a financial "incubator". They find companies, help grow them, and spin them off. It is my impression they want to get listed quickly on the NASDAQ very quickly, because they want to raise capital to buy something fairly big.

Hope this helps somewhat!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Danny_K:
I am going to try and go to CVSU's address listed on thier site tomorrow. I live about 15min away from Kennesaw..

On second thought, I date a girl in kennesaw, Im heading there tonight, Im gonna leave early and see if i can at least find a building with thier name on it..

Camera in hand, and microrecorder in pocket [Big Grin] we shall see tomorrow. [Big Grin]

please do keep us updated! and thanks! [Big Grin]
 
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Posted by: trout31
In reply to: None Date:7/18/2006 8:46:05 PM
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I actually called & spoke to the CEO of CVSU, today.

The CEO basically during my discussion with him ... put his reputation on the line, & CVSU's ... by stating that a $15 dollar share price would be set, once the merger occurs.

Hey made it clear that a NASDAQ listing, was what CVSU was after. He stated, that CVSU has all the financial and asset requirements ... to be listed on NASDAQ, as of now.

He finally stated that it was his belief, that the share price once at $15 level, would move steadily upwards instead of declining.


Just one more time for those who still are saying THAT's IMPOSSIBLE! Do your own DD
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
Hustla, first of all I made my share of money on this stock, 2 times. the way i see it , mostly the reason the pps rocketed is on speculation of a $15 buyout. now that its been cleared up by the pr i dont see why people would be speculating on $15 anymore.
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
The last trade after-hours might be a good signal to tell us whether it'll dip or fly thru the roof tomorrow. It was just 200k and 40% above the asking price... that's all...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
ROMBERRY, "I don't own this issue. I don't plan on buying this issue. I don't work for a broker, a market maker and I don't have any relationship at all with anyonne anywhere who has any financial interest in this stock what so ever. If I had bought in for 11 cents a share, I'd sell and be happy and not the least bit concerned about whatever the final outcome is. But I didn't buy in at .11 or .26 and I'm not about to buy in at a buck or more. All I asked was for someone to show me where I'm wrong."

Then why are you here. If you don't own it then why take the time to write.

working through the tread, here--

Hope to see no more of this: this is Allstocks, not RB. No one needs a position to discuss a stock.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hustla:
quote:
Originally posted by romberry:

Why would we spend our time trying to explain the reasoning, the advantages to both companies, where to find answers to all your questions?? Have you read every post on every board out there? All of your questions have been addressed in previous posts and are there for you to find. You are new and definetly have a motive, call the CEO, read "every" post then return with your questions. GLTY
That's not an answer. I have been reading and doing DD just as hard as I can. I don't have any "motive" so you can stick that sort of thick headed response in the toilet. I'm looking at a balance sheet for a company that says it has 800 million+ in assets and yet generated not a single penny of income. I'm looking at the balance sheet for another company that has accountants saying that it's future as a going concern is not assured due to the fact it has negative net worth and is losing money hand over fist but for some reason this money losing company is now the target of a takeover/merger? Know what else? I spent a lot of time going through the various pages of the CVSU.US web site. Horse stables? An address at a virtual office that is shared by many other companies?

If I have motive here it is simply to find out the answers to some of these questions and to find out why so many people seem willing to ignore the numbers and read what they want to read into press releases that don't say what they have convinced themselves that they say.

People buying FHAL are NOT going to get the difference between the share price and 15 bucks when this merger closes. That would be fiscally insane on so many levels that it defies description.

Do you know what UCC notes are? UCC notes are simply "uniform commercial code promissary notes" and they are often not worth the paper they are printed on. You but up 100 million dollars of defaulted car loans for 10 grand and you have yourself 100 million dollars worth of UCC notes. Good luck getting any money out of them.

Bonds? Bonds are only as good as the issuing authority. I want to know where these half a fricking billion dollars in "long terms bonds" come from. You won't get that info on the laugher of a balance sheet.

I don't own this issue. I don't plan on buying this issue. I don't work for a broker, a market maker and I don't have any relationship at all with anyonne anywhere who has any financial interest in this stock what so ever. If I had bought in for 11 cents a share, I'd sell and be happy and not the least bit concerned about whatever the final outcome is. But I didn't buy in at .11 or .26 and I'm not about to buy in at a buck or more. All I asked was for someone to show me where I'm wrong. It's pretty apparent that you want to see ulterior motives where non exist and it's also apparent that you don't have the answers.

All I am saying is that these numbers do not add up...and they don't. If CVSU has nearly a billion dollars in real assets, then FHAL has nothing to offer them. An OTC:BB ticker just ain't that hard to get.

Now then, is there anyone here that might like to actually address the concerns in my earlier post?
[/QUOTE]


Moron one of the easiest way to go public is for the bigger private company to merge with a smaller public shell company. GET OUTTA HERE before I send somebody down to your hicktown. F'ing playa hater!!!! wish you bought at 11 cents. Your dumbass wouldn't be so frustrated right now [/QB][/QUOTE]


Hustla?

knock it off...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bloodykitten:
This form another forum. Don't know who its from or to. Sounds interesting and very well thought out.


Dancer, I'll take a shot at a few of your questions.

The news came out six days ago, and some of us bought in right away. That led to a 100% pps spike. However, in penny land, runners are like mayflies: they have a very short life, and most "players" were assuming this was just a standard one day momo play

Many more serious investors had to really understand the terms of the merger agreement. This is a reverse merger, which is a little more exotic than a standard merger, and is done primarily when a more succcessful, well capitalized corporation acquires a less successful company which has the good fortune to be a compliant, clean record, Nasdaq or OTCBB listed firm.

Although there are other examples of stocks running up based on the value of the acquiring company, and the new book value, those examples are not well known, and everyone need to find out for themselves.

Over the course of three four days, people on this board, and HSM as well, took it on themselves to make phone calls to he officers and CEO of FHAL/CVSU, to get the word directly. that led to a "OhmyGodit'sTrue" moment.

Word that the $15 pps is virtually guaranteed (and nothing, ni my mind is 100% guaranteed) spread overnight through the boards, causing this stock to rise 215% on just DD, and boards.

As far as why the price isn't closer to the $15 price, all we can say is: hang out and wait a bit. A week isn't too much to ask.

We have had confirmation from the company that they have been buying up the float, and the stock has certainly been trading like a low float rocket.

Nevertheless, there will always be daytraders,momentum players, who are going to look for their 35-50% day gains and sell. This will lead to periodic pauses on FHAL's ascent. I can't guarantee you won't see some selloffs that may make you wonder what's going on. But if a big dayplayer bought up 200K shares, and has just sold those after doubling his money, it will affect the stock price. What I've seen, however, that there seem to be plenty of buyers waiting to pick up stock on good dips. Nice sign.

We have not even had a PR on this company, or a major profile by a stock analyst yet. MarketWatch did include FHAL in a list of three stocks to watch (it was the only OTCBB, I might add) But we are expecting more this week.

If FHAL performed the way it did yesterday, on news, I can only imagine where it will go with more spotlight attention.

Remember, CVSU wants the stock price to go up as much as possible. If the stock is at $15 the day of the completion, they will have to pay nothing to any shareholders. Therefore, it is our impression they will be pumping this as much as we hope they will. It is in both our interests.

In addition, CVSU is a financial "incubator". They find companies, help grow them, and spin them off. It is my impression they want to get listed quickly on the NASDAQ very quickly, because they want to raise capital to buy something fairly big.

Hope this helps somewhat!

please post links...thanks!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Here is one of CVSU's joint ventures and they have government contracts with an estimated worth of $600 million with the F-22 and F-35. Is this included in the $800 million worth of the company(CVSU)? It is AISS on CVSU homepage.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Tex,

it is off the www.**************.com under the FHAL thread. Thanks for taking a star from me!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Tex, I'm dying to hear your take on all of this. The last post was off of IHUB.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Crap ************** that is instead of *******
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
Here is one of CVSU's joint ventures and they have government contracts with an estimated worth of $600 million with the F-22 and F-35. Is this included in the $800 million worth of the company(CVSU)? It is AISS on CVSU homepage.

Just a side comment on this: the fact they have a contract for the F22 explains thier location perfectly, Dobins ARB is 10 min from thier office, and this is where they actually BUILD the F22. This would lead me to belive they have actually personel working in Kennesaw apposed to a "virtural office" as a previous poster said. But then again, you never know. Just expressing my thoughts.
 
Posted by bloodykitten on :
 
http://www.**************.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40038&page=445

Thats the link to where I got it from. I am not sure the rules of this board about posting links so I didnt include it.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
And Colgate-Palmolive shares a building with FGFC. Does that mean that Colgate is a scam? My Insurance Agency shares an office building with a PI, are we a scam too?


quote:
Originally posted by romberry:
I think people better read the that press release again and do it slowly and carefully. I don't think it says exactly what a lot of people seem to think it says. Compare it very carefully (and I do mean very carefully) with special attention on the terms and definitions as outlined in the SEC Form 8-K.

I also suggest that you take a minute to look up the address for CVSU as is presently listed on their home page at CVSU.US. The address 125 TownPark Drive Suite 300. Kennesaw, GA 30144 is nothing more than a "virtual office" (see regus.com) shared by dozens of other "companies" ranging from private investigators to a small fitness center to carpet and rug companies.

As for share price and what will or won't be paid out to shareholders, where exactly is it that all the capital required to pay this difference going to come from? If this company and its pricipals have the equivalent of 15 dollars per share in capital lying around, why on earth would the best use of it be to pay out enormous these gains to shareholders?

Has anyone looked at the last 10QSB at Edgar? As of March, the company (FrontHaul) had a negative net worth of nearly 2 million dollars. CVSU, being an unaudited pink sheet stock with no reporting requirements, doesn't even have anything on file . Where did these supposed 800 million dollar in assets come from? Did they materialize out of thin air? If you are relying on thier unaudited balance sheet, why not ask yourself how a company that supposedly has 843 million dollars of assets was able to generate not one single penny of income from January through March of this year. 300+ million in UCC notes? Do you even know what a UCC note is? 500 million in long terms bonds? Who issued those bonds? Is that their face value? Are they marketable? And why is a company with 800 million dollars in assets (but no income) interested in merging with a money losing company that has a negative cash flow and negative net worth?

I'm glad that a lot of people have made a lot of money here and I'm certainly open to someone looking all these things over and telling me where exactly I'm wrong but as of this moment I'd say something doesn't smell right. Proceed with caution.


 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Tex,

What Cassity said.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Tex, I'm dying to hear your take on all of this. The last post was off of IHUB.

lol, I *still* don't see where FHAL shareholders are "promised" anything...

still reading, though...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I like this from AISS website. Just one JV CVSU is involved in. I wish I could invest in AISS also [Big Grin] .

Under the auspices of the DoD's Mentor-Protégé Program, Lockheed Martin has provided invaluable technical training and manage­ment support to American International Smart Structure (Georgia Aerospace). The relationship has been an enduring source of knowledge, competencies, and insights that constitute a competitive advantage for American International Smart Structure (Georgia Aerospace). Specifically, Lockheed Martin is the largest defense contractor in the U.S. and the beneficiary of a commanding position on several new Department of Defense programs. Lockheed Martin has won 8 of 12 contract competitions this year. In recent months, the company has been selected as the prime contractor on the Joint Common Missile (estimated contract value: $5.5 billion over 20 years), the LSI (Lead Systems Integrator) on the Aerial Common Sensor SD&D contract ($8 billion over 25 years), the sole contractor on the Compact Kinetic Energy Missile ($2 billion in total value), the contractor for the Navy's new satellite system, MUDS ($2.1 billion over the first seven years), and one of two companies selected as possible LSI’s for the Littoral Combat Ship ($14 billion in total value). American International Smart Structure’s close operational and strategic relationship ensures it a highly visible position on sub-systems put out to bid by Lockheed Martin
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
i think people are going to realize this and a possible sell off tomarrow...

Realize what? Realize that a PR stating that the shareholders of the new company, CVSU.ob (FHAL +old CVSU), will get $15 per share. I seriously doubt this will cause anything to go lower, what we will realize is how fast you will be chasing to get in
Exactly. When CVSU gets the FHAL shares along with the cash to make up the $15 difference I would imagine that CVSU holders are confidently expecting the pps to increase after merger. Otherwise they get a 1 time "pay out" and then watch their investment sink. Unless, of course, that is the plan...which scares me a little bit.

Rufus wants $15 pps so he doesnt have to pay out any cash. Everyone involved wants to see the pps increase over time so i think all will be well, just slower than we thought. IMO
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bloodykitten:
http://www.**************.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40038&page=445

Thats the link to where I got it from. I am not sure the rules of this board about posting links so I didnt include it.

lol im afraid the first part of the link is going to have to be spelled out
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
And chart today is looking plenty good as MM's trying to bring it below $1 to absorb as much as possible, while they don't seem to want it to drop too low where the whole thing tanks.

The AISS projects really look interesting..
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Newbie7:
And chart today is looking plenty good as MM's trying to bring it below $1 to absorb as much as possible, while they don't seem to want it to drop too low where the whole thing tanks.

The AISS projects really look interesting..

that's a goooooood point.. excellent.. i forgot about that explanation.. the moon tomorrow..
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
from another board:


Posted by: Zanatos
In reply to: None
Date:7/19/2006 8:10:12 PM
Post #of 4356

"OK guys, listen carefully, this is what the OTC broker told me:

Option one needs no clarification.
Option 2 means: That CVSU will pay you the difference between $15 and he closing PPS in cash. BUT, you will STILL HAVE YOUR CVSU SHARES! (valued at the closing PPS)
Option 3 means: that when listed, the PPS will open * $15

Furthermore, he confirmed that CVSU's plan of listing on the NASDAQ made perfect sense (referencing the actual value of 32-34 and offering $15).

My heart was racing as I sat down in his office, but I left walking on air.

In short, what he is saying is that as they stated it, no matter what the market does between now and then, we will be getting $15 per share, but the options will be executed according as to what the market does between now and then."(-Michael)
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
That would be incredible if it happens.
But if the scenario is the other side, it should still be up in the coming days. JMHO

And it seems that doing a R/S wouldn't really benefit them since the pps will more less drop as fast as Rufus splits, which is not what Rufus would want.
It makes much more sense to buyback as much shares as possible to put a squeeze on supply.

$4-6 at 65 mil to push up the price is still much better than paying $11-13 difference at 45 mil.
(Just an example)
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
another board post:

Posted by: Josh Taylor
In reply to: rick85284 who wrote msg# 4354
Date:7/19/2006 8:26:50 PM
Post #of 4366

Now I am extremely new at this, you could call me an infant, but this is what I read of this. Basically the people that currently hold shares of CVSU(the company that is merging into FHAL) will be guaranteed $15 dollar ps on open. Right now, the people holding FHAL are not guaranteed anything at all. So lets say your name is John Smith and you currently work for CVSU and you hold 1000 shares of CVSU(not the merged fhal). On the 28th the pps is at $8, FHAL is going to pay you an additional $7 per share of CVSU that you hold and you keep your original 1000 shares of CVSU that are now converted to FHAL. Those of us who are buying FHAL are just getting to buy a share that should have a potential of $15 at a discounted price. We are getting nothing extra other than our profits between now and then. Make sense? When all is said and done, we will all have the shares of FHAL, which will then be called CVSU.OB, and they could be worth anywhere between $.01 and $1000000. Hope that makes sense. I am new.
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I was checking out the charts for the last year or so for CVSU. It has dropped quite a bit. Any thoughts on this?
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Anyone remember how we first heard of FHAL? I cannot remember who brought this stock to light but I certainly appreciate the one who did!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruthie:
Anyone remember how we first heard of FHAL? I cannot remember who brought this stock to light but I certainly appreciate the one who did!!

Yea i remember. In early-ish June they announced the LOI for the Amazon deal and it went up some ridiculous amount in one day. Ive been sitting on those shares since then waiting for them to go get some friggin logs! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Oh yeah... I remember that LOI... haha..
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
another opinion from another board. he responds to fhal critisisms. negative question followed by honest sounding answer.

Posted by: Kapone
In reply to: None
Date:7/19/2006 8:41:39 PM
Post #of 4383

Something I had posted on HSM earlier, I'll repost here. It may answer some of your questions.

This was the question.
From Market Millionaires... lots of questions here guys, everyone is taking this as a given. Remember NDOL?

CVSU holders are the only ones getting the $15. FHAL is just becoming a shell from what i can tell and the value will be set by the market. The people in FHAL are getting a company that i know nothing about and can't comment on. The A/S and O/S are the key to setting the market value when this merges. I'm not sure what will happen here and will be watching the chart to get in and out as appropriate as a day trader only. I will not hold this stock. I am not in now and haven't been since this merger was announced.

Lemme see if I can address some of these.

CVSU holders are the only ones getting the $15. - Maybe, maybe not. As far as we know, everybody is going to get it.
- Based on the 8K as well as conversations with Rufus,
- and most importantly, this is a PUBLIC company, it can't just pay "some" share holders and not others. shares are shares. Whatever regulations apply to the "future" CVSU shareholders, whether they are former CVSU shareholders or former FHAL shareholders, they apply equally. The SEC would be after their butt in a second if they tried to do anything to the contrary.

FHAL is just becoming a shell from what i can tell and the value will be set by the market. - FHAL is not "becoming" a shell. It IS a shell (colloquially speaking) right NOW, however, with a 1.5B LOI from CEOTA. That LOI is not CVSU's, it's FHAL's. You think FHAL is just gonna walk away from it?? And don't forget the Credits (that can be traded as a commodity AND are probably worth more than the damned logs themselves) BECAUSE of the Amazon contract. Those are FHAL's too, not CVSU's.

The people in FHAL are getting a company that i know nothing about and can't comment on. - So?? What's the point that the poster is trying to make?? The information about CVSU is public and you can easily find it with a few hours of DD.

The A/S and O/S are the key to setting the market value when this merges. - Yes, it is. And according to several sources (and I'll have to go back dig through the DD to find out the exact numbers), the A/S or the O/S are in line with two companies merging. No additional dilution.

I'm not sure what will happen here and will be watching the chart to get in and out as appropriate as a day trader only. I will not hold this stock. I am not in now and haven't been since this merger was announced. - That's their personal choice. Just like mine. Whether they day trade this to blithereen or hold means jack to anyone else. Trading is completely a personal choice.

I hope those are succint answers. As far as a R/S split is concerned, apart from the fact that Rufus has said PUBLICLY during the interview as well as during private phone conversation, that it's not gonn happen, either now, or in the near future, there is a MORE inportant reason for it not to happen.

CVSU is hell bent on getting to the NASDAQ. I had posted lots of reasons why. Check some of my earlier posts. The OTC BB is just a stop over for them. With the POST merger float around 103 million, if I'm not wrong, they would be shooting themselves in the foot, if they do a R/S, because if they are planning on moving to the NASDAQ, they need to be able to trade AT LEAST 50K on average EVERYDAY. A 1-10 R/S will leave the float at 10 million, which is REALLY small, and may not trade 50K every day. I'm sure they don't wanna risk that. I'm not saying a R/S is completely out of the question, however, it's highly unlikely, it'll happen before the merger, or immediately after the merger.

Just my .02.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
from sandor butosi's repost:

"and most importantly, this is a PUBLIC company, it can't just pay "some" share holders and not others. shares are shares."

that's just silly. CVSU shareholders want something in return for their shares. According to "the company's" argument, CVSU shares are worth $15--hence the promise to them to get one share of FHAL, plus the difference.
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
So what is everyone think this is going to do tomorrow, could we see 2$ or more this week. I am in, got in late, wish i was one of you guys that pick it up around .20 but i am happy for now. Cant wait till tomorrow.
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Tex...my DD led me to Broadband Wireless (BBAN or BBANE). Read about Paul Harris there in threads in the other forums. Very interesting !!!!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jordanm:
Tex...my DD led me to Broadband Wireless (BBAN or BBANE). Read about Paul Harris there in threads in the other forums. Very interesting !!!!

is that the lawsuit?
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Interesting point from I h u b from BBAN owner:
Posted by: Dimension
In reply to: petermic who wrote msg# 35 Date:7/19/2006 10:27:46 PM
Post #of 37

it's a long story...suffice to say, BBAN shareholder's are probably regretting they got rid of Harris and company.

that said, i think all of them are pumpers...but i will give Harris and his crew credits, they can move share price.

Harris was removed by a shareholder vote after he recalled the shares of all non-performing officers and fired them all, which, in hindsight, was the right thing to do. Problem is, he ticked some scam artists (the former B.O.D of BBAN) off by doing this. The old B.O.D that were fired by Harris was able to rally the shareholder base with the help of a fella by the name of Holbrook. They ooh'd and awed shareholders with all kind of promises...and shareholders bought into it gleefully, voting Harris and company out at an emergency shareholder's meeting.
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Tex...Yes and the termination of Paul and Ben. Also look up a 100 million Insurance bond which led to this termination. Also look up pinksheets for the filings and check out the 2004 8K. I googled and found a lot of interesting history of Paul and Ben.
But the Bond is genuine. It is listed on the Frankfurt exchange and has a maturity of 2018, although its rarely traded (interestingly traded on 7/18/06).
I cannot find any information on the Caracas group or on Ismet.
One more area you may want to check history on is Waatle. This was the company that merged into CVSU.
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
mninvestor...the last paragraph of your post from ihub is below :
I don't care for any of them, BBAN or Harris & Co. but Harris & Co are better at a pump, if that is what your goal is. Whether CVSU/FHAL is a pump or not...i can't say for sure, but i suspect it is the same as your XKEM. You can go with the flow and see what happens, but you ought to be ready to be the first off as well i suppose. What i am amazed about is that Harris has committed to the $15/share price publically on several ocassions now...knowing him, i actually think he may try to pull this off simply to rub it in to those BBAN officer and shareholder's face.

all my opinion only
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Geeze folks reading all the crazy stories makes one want to run and hide behind a big ol boulder and peek out to see what happens!!!! At ihub it's just a lil more scarier..lol makes ya want to dig a hole and put a mirror thru the dirt to peek out and see if it'll be safe..lol Take it all with a grain of salt( it heals wounds)haha
Anyways everyone it's your own call don't depend on anyone but ur own dd.. glta
 
Posted by Fonzy35 on :
 
this stock will run , no dought about it, it's going to be a flipper's dream up to july 28
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fonzy35:
this stock will run , no dought about it, it's going to be a flipper's dream up to july 28

Agreed...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Goodnight all you crazy, penny lovin SOB's. Here's to tomorrow and a great run!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
If FHAL is going to pay the difference between the PPS and $15.00 to CVSU shareholders, is the reason they were buying the float so that the laws of supply and demand will be in effect and the PPS will continue to go up? That way they don't have to pay as much to the CVSU folks?

Or was it just so they have the shares to issue to CVSU holders?

Jo
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
If FHAL is going to pay the difference between the PPS and $15.00 to CVSU shareholders, is the reason they were buying the float so that the laws of supply and demand will be in effect and the PPS will continue to go up? That way they don't have to pay as much to the CVSU folks?

Or was it just so they have the shares to issue to CVSU holders?

Jo

*apparently* (from link re original 15c-211 via Livinon on other thread + my "hunch") the majority (only?) CVSU shareholders are Harris & Ben. Looks like they think they've found a way to guarantee themselves a price for CVSU shares, which are valued at $15/share, based on iffy bonds. Naturally, they'd love to get a guarantee....
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
ah, ha. That hunch is a feasible one.

What does this mean for us? Are they still going to be buying up shares?

Are we going to get another rise in PPS, or is the party over?

(just retorical questions, no one could possible know...'cept Rufie and Ben)
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Anyone that might call Harris or Stanley...ask them how long they have been "buying" up the shares? lookin' back at the 8K's and the date on the signatures...this has been started back in June...so I am curious...how long they've been at it...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Tex? i never found anything about who all holds CVSU ... they list several co's in their sheet...
and i'm no position to properly analyse their assets.... i just don't know...
i think you are getting ahead of the game here with some of your claims like (only)....

shell purchases/ revers mergers are always almost impossible to fully analyse...
yes there are red flags, but no way am i saying the PPS won't go much higher....
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
glassman/Tex...Checkout this out on pinksheets
Report Type Period End Date Release Date
15c2-11 $Information Statement 11/03/2005 Nov 3 2005 ET

As of that date, there were 23 million shares and 2 shareholders - Rufus and Ben.

There were only 7 employees.

This is the only information I found on the share structure.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Tex? i never found anything about who all holds CVSU ... they list several co's in their sheet...
and i'm no position to properly analyse their assets.... i just don't know...
i think you are getting ahead of the game here with some of your claims like (only)....

shell purchases/ revers mergers are always almost impossible to fully analyse...
yes there are red flags, but no way am i saying the PPS won't go much higher....

I have *not* run the SoS stuff, the name search stuff, the addresses, any of that....agreed

was not surprised by the court case, will concede...

lol--my claims?

All I'm basically saying is the neither the filings nor the PR support a mad rush to conclusion of "guaranteed" $15 pps "buyout."

Sure it can run higher... *I" never said that, either.

As posted elsewhere, you're one of those who taught *me*---> know "why* you're playing it....

[ July 20, 2006, 00:06: Message edited by: T e x ]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jordanm:
glassman/Tex...Checkout this out on pinksheets
Report Type Period End Date Release Date
15c2-11 $Information Statement 11/03/2005 Nov 3 2005 ET

As of that date, there were 23 million shares and 2 shareholders - Rufus and Ben.

There were only 7 employees.

This is the only information I found on the share structure.

good stuff, Jordan

thanks

got a link? lol, I'm tired... [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
It's a warzone over on Ihub, lol. I'll pick up 5 - 10K shares in the morning, ride em until the 28th and see what happens. What the hell, right ?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
ya ta hey
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Hey Jordanm,
Where did it say about the filing structure you mentioned? Is there something wrong with my eyes? Or are you making things up?


Conversion Solutions updates 15c2-11 broker information sheet.


KENNESAW, Ga., Aug 31, 2005 / Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC: CVSU) announces today that the corporation has updated the broker information sheet and is currently preparing to file the Form 10 with the SEC.

"The current process of preparing to file the first reporting documents to the SEC is the most important process that a public company can go thru, everything has to be perfect to ensure success. I would like to thank each and every officer and shareholder for their hard work and perseverance over the last few months and I am looking forward to our shared profits together." stated Rufus Paul Harris, CEO, CVSU.

About Conversion Solutions, Inc

CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU and WHSC are headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at www.cvsu.us or e-mail us at Harris*cvsu.us.

Subsidiaries

Calleo Gourmet Coffee, Live Mortgage Free, Federal Chamber of Commerce, Bonnaema Brewing Co. and Tserof Holdings Inc.

SOURCE Conversion Solutions, Inc.

CONTACT: Rufus Paul Harris,
CEO of Conversion Solutions, Inc.,
+1-770-420-8270 or +1678-255-7650
Email; Harris*cvsu.us
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Tex....here's the link https://www.otcstockinfo.com/repository/658329/658329_FR8.pdf

Newbie7...I do not make things up. Read it carefully. Do your DD.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
But if this is going to gap in the AM, buying now would be a good idea. Who knows when the PR is going to come out. Maybe in the pre-opening hours?

Jo

Exactly,

I bet a lot of people wish they bought at the EOD yesterday, instead of after the gap this morning.

We warned the sellers Jo, LoL
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
STOP the talk about the PR. IF it comes out tomorrow then so be it. Don't want ppl getting mad cause the PR doesn't show tomorrow.

I don't think anyone is mad now, LoL
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Note : The information posted above is of Nov 2005. Share structure may have changed after that. I have tried to get information of it, but have not been able to find any additional
information.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Thanks jordanm
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Thanks Jordanm!
Sorry, my bad!

Good DD!
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
So there are more or less basically three scenarios, right?

Scenario 1
Everything is all that the FHAL shareholders hoped for. As promised by Rufus and Ben thru all the conversations people had with them: The stock will be worth $15 per share after the merger with no R/S.

Scenario 2
FHAL pays the final difference between CVSU's $15 share value and whatever FHAL's worth when merger day arrives.
(This would mean that they will buyback as many shares possible to put to work the supply demand theory, since R/S will cause a huge drop in pps)

Scenario 3
FHAL and CVSU are both scams, and it's all momentum play from now on until D-day. (But if there are more news for moving to Nasdaq, details on Amazon contract, etc continues to come, today's good looking chart, and the huge after-hour block buy, it may actually still move further ahead)

[ July 20, 2006, 01:32: Message edited by: Newbie7 ]
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Newbie7:
Thanks Jordanm!
Sorry, my bad!

Good DD!

See...we can all be friends here, LoL
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Ihub is being terrorized by some idiot who is short on this stock and upset that it keeps going up. It's funny actually. I'm sure he will eventually find his way here. Just ignore him.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
this stock will go up like crazy today!!! you feel some guys are frustrated they are not in this stock and put everything in question...too bad it won't work because i am pretty sure the stock will open above 2 bucks and continue to go up...the buy at 1,46 dollars after market was a great signal some people are pretty sure this will go a lot higher in the next days...keep on going fhal!!!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
any prediction how high we will open today? my guess is 2,3 dollars...
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Looks like JJ over at IHUB will have a live interview with the CEO at 8:00am CST on Paltalk:

Posted by: JJSeabrook
In reply to: None Date:7/20/2006 1:13:03 AM
Post #of 4789

JUST THIS MOMENT OFF THE PHONE WITH CEO!

Rufus Harris will be having a LIVE INTERVIEW with me on Paltalk at 8:00 CST. Details to follow. YOU GUYS ARE GONNA LOVE THIS!!!!

JJ
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I think we will open around $1.20-$1.50. The MM's won't let it gap up two bucks, not enough profit in it for them. Unless of course they consolidated enough today. No, I think it will run like today.
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Doniboy, Newbie7...if you are still awake...check out the FHAL ihub board...Rufus seems to be answering questions himself...cant say if it is Rufus himself or someone foolig...but check it out...its interesting...
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Mr. Rufus, himself, is posting on the IHUB board now! He said he will clarify the whole BBANE incident! He will be on the interview tomorrow and answer any questions whatsoever! Ask politely, off course...
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Beat me to it, Jordanm.
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Oops.. the interview's at 8:00pm...CST
Not 8:00am... sorry
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
Newbie7...Yup...I was myself a bit shocked to see a CEO on a message board...you have a good night...happy trading tomorrow....
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Hi guys, this is my first ever post. I have owned shares in this since .15 last week. I am based in the UK and trade through TD WaterhouseUK. Today i recieved a corporate action sent to my account as follows:

Stock: FRONTHAUL GRP INC
Action Type: Merger
Description: Fronthaul Group Inc and Conversion Solutions Inc announced that they signed a definitive agreement pursuant to which Conversion Solutions Inc agreed to acquire Fronthaul Group for cash.

The transaction is structured as a merger.
Under the terms of the merger, Fronthaul Group shareholders will receive USD7.21 in cash in exchange for each share held.

The effective date has not yet been announced.

?????????????????

Does this mean my shares will be worth this over night? It sounds like they will give me the money but are taking my shares?

Any thoghts on this? i only ever get these e-mails when i get a confirmed dividend.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
The effective date has not yet been announced.

morning fellow European! It's probably not going to happen overnight. I am surprised however that our shares wont be worth $15 as mentioned by Rufus, but if this is the case then $7.21 is still 7 times our current market value, nothing wrong with that of course.

I hope you won't be insulted if I ask if anyone on here can confirm what you wrote here (not that I dont want to believe you, but I'm careful with claims, I hope you understand). I have TD Ameritrade (USA) and I didn't get an email like this.

*EDIT* ok you use TD Waterhouse, not ameritrade, nevermind then [Wink]
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Hi Hannibull

Been on the phone to the brokers this morning as sounded too good to be true. However they have confirmed it as being real and are as baffled as me.

I am going to wait and see what happens to the pps because if it goes over $7.21 i will sell before the merger is complete. This is because they confirmed that it is a MANDATORY sale at that price regardless of pps.
Hope this helps!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
hey would you mind if I post your email on Ihub? thanks
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
no problem, hannibull


I am am just trying to find a way of blacking account my account details on the email and then posting a link showing it.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
Can I make a suggestion? If it's not too much effort, could you do a screenshot of your email and black out your personal details? that would give people a lot more confidence (which would benefit you as well as a long shareholder). That would be awesome if you did that! If you don't know how to do all of this I'll send you a private message. Again, only if it's not too much effort of course *feels guilty already* [Big Grin]

thanks! and welcome to allstocks! you'll love it here
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
AT work at mo, but will try later today
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Bah, i dont have real time L2s and the "delayed" one here in allstocks is down. Im curious how things look with the MMs this morning after that 200k buy yesterday. Anyone else awake yet? [Smile]
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
1.10 x 1.07 (bid above ask), premarket has just opened so give it some time to gap [Wink]
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
AT work at mo, but will try later today

no problem!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
the more i think about the $15 per share the more uncertain I am. But one thing is for sure that this baby is going to spike today!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
1.10 x 1.07 (bid above ask), premarket has just opened so give it some time to gap [Wink]

Im not complaining. We have a good 30 minutes for that to gap as you said. Its gonna be a rough and tumble in MM world this morning.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
has anyone read that email on page 94?
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
I posted it again Hannibull for those not up at that time like us here in europe!!!!!


Hi guys, this is my first ever post. I have owned shares in this since .15 last week. I am based in the UK and trade through TD WaterhouseUK. Today i recieved a corporate action sent to my account as follows:

Stock: FRONTHAUL GRP INC
Action Type: Merger
Description: Fronthaul Group Inc and Conversion Solutions Inc announced that they signed a definitive agreement pursuant to which Conversion Solutions Inc agreed to acquire Fronthaul Group for cash.

The transaction is structured as a merger.
Under the terms of the merger, Fronthaul Group shareholders will receive USD7.21 in cash in exchange for each share held.

The effective date has not yet been announced.

?????????????????

Does this mean my shares will be worth this over night? It sounds like they will give me the money but are taking my shares?

Any thoghts on this? i only ever get these e-mails when i get a confirmed dividend.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
has anyone read that email on page 94?

Yea, i did. Im not going to disbelieve the guy but im disappointed if its true because Etrade could tell me NOTHING last night. I muddled through the latest PR with the guy and he was just as confused as the rest of us. Ive seen the 7.21 thing before so it does spark some interest.
 
Posted by keithNJ on :
 
question guys; off topic.....

when a company does a forward split does that dilute the o/s by 15x ?


thanks
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
The thing is, to me that seems to be old news. In the latest PR it states that FHAL aquired CVSU, not the other way around. This needed to happen so CVSU could ride the FHAL symbol into the Nasdaq someday, or at least that is how I understand it. So many of the reports have been flip flopped from one another its not even funny.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
1.20 x 1.075 lol, time to adjust the ask mms!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
1.20 x 1.075 lol, time to adjust the ask mms!

Hmmmm, that was happening all afternoon yesterday.....ok not THAT big of a gap but it was happening. Strange
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
its still so early these l2's are making me nervous, not a fan of HUGE gaps like this
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
fhal $1.15[-] $1.075 $1.06 0 0% $1.06 $0.00 6,400

My scottrade shows "6400" shares traded already?????..Could that be from the afterhours trade last night or is it something else this AM????
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
fhal $1.15[-] $1.10 $1.06 0 0% $1.06 $0.00 8,900

now it shows 8900....any ideas on where this trading is occurring?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
its still so early these l2's are making me nervous, not a fan of HUGE gaps like this

Me either jmoove.... On the other hand , this thing has been completely unorthadox sence the beginning...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Morning everyone...ready to go?!


Maumee...will you be joinin' us today?
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
$1.15[-] $1.10 $1.06 0 0% $1.06 $0.00 14,900


now 14,900
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
its still so early these l2's are making me nervous, not a fan of HUGE gaps like this

Me either jmoove.... On the other hand , this thing has been completely unorthadox sence the beginning...
I know it, its disgusting, Im trying to keep my head and play this logically, but its hard when the stock rise is totally whacky. lol
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
though if this opens on or above roughly 1.25 we'll get a boli bounce and the sky is the limit
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Not if Microcap doesn,t get there Chit together 10!!!

They had a power outage or sumpthin last nite and it has F-ed up the whole site...

I think they make enough money to afford a backup system in case of a power outage...

PIZZES ME OFF!!!!

BAD!!!

Good Morning All!!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
holy $hit!! this is nuts
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
1.30 x 1.10? What a spread.
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
fhal $1.30[+] $1.10 $1.06 0 0% $1.06 $0.00 33,800

now 33,800 bid is 1.30
 
Posted by jordanm on :
 
1.33
 
Posted by stocks1984 on :
 
damn how high can this gap open
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Pretty high...I wouldn't be suprised to see it open above yesterdays highs.... I also wouldnt be suprised to se that gap get closed in a hurry by profit takers..
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I'm showing all of these transactions on my Last Sale window as well. Looks like there's going to be a bunch of early stuff happening today.

GLTA
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Pretty high...I wouldn't be suprised to see it open above yesterdays highs.... I also wouldnt be suprised to se that gap get closed in a hurry by profit takers..

Yea, i agree but im counting on it to bounce back fast with "new" buyers. It hit $1 yesterday AND the merger PR after hours. That should be two alerts from the same stock popping up on a lot of peoples radar...IMO.

Thats what im counting on at laest. [Smile]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
this type of a gap can F everything up
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
this type of a gap can F everything up

why do you say that? right now i am seeing a gap of about 20 percent.
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
this gap is scarry... glad they brought it down a little... A nice gap to the teens could help us.. one too high and people are gonna dump shares for the first 30 min of trading.. arghhhh

PS. I found CVSU's office last night, anyone want pics? It was security card clearance only [Frown] but the address exists and it looks like the building on thier website [Smile] so thats a start haha.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
this type of a gap can F everything up

why do you say that? right now i am seeing a gap of about 20 percent.
uncertainty about the PR + huge gap = profit taking

Hope I am wrong
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Just to throw something else out here with this $15 deal. Anyone remember Rufus saying that the current CVSU holders are pissed because they weren't going to have they shares valued at the $30 they should be?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Just to throw something else out here with this $15 deal. Anyone remember Rufus saying that the current CVSU holders are pissed because they weren't going to have they shares valued at the $30 they should be?

It sounds as though Rufus and Stanley are the ONLY share holders for CSVU...
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
the only reason for a gap like this is pre market orders stacking up! looks to me like lots of buyers want in. i say it runs like hell!
 
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
 
momma
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
If the ask is at 1.10 right now, how come I'm seeing buys go through for over 1.30?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
looks like 2 bucks by 9:45!!
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
fhal $1.33[+] $1.10 $1.06 0 0% $1.06 $0.00 85,350

bid at 1.33 !!!!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Just to throw something else out here with this $15 deal. Anyone remember Rufus saying that the current CVSU holders are pissed because they weren't going to have they shares valued at the $30 they should be?

It sounds as though Rufus and Stanley are the ONLY share holders for CSVU...
I was thinking about that, and IF true, we know that all the calls people made asking about the $15 issue, there will be no doubt they new it was directed toward FHAL shareholders not current CVSU shareholders. JMO [Wink]
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
ACAP is there but sleeping.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
looks like 2 bucks by 9:45!!


 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
this type of a gap can F everything up

why do you say that? right now i am seeing a gap of about 20 percent.
uncertainty about the PR + huge gap = profit taking

Hope I am wrong

But, would this really be a problem in the long run? I mean, im sure profit takers have been playing a role off and on all week but the floats get bought up regardless so it may LOOK bad at first but then recover right?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
My thought also Cassity...
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Finally 1.34 x 1.35.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Just to throw something else out here with this $15 deal. Anyone remember Rufus saying that the current CVSU holders are pissed because they weren't going to have they shares valued at the $30 they should be?

It sounds as though Rufus and Stanley are the ONLY share holders for CSVU...
I was thinking about that, and IF true, we know that all the calls people made asking about the $15 issue, there will be no doubt they new it was directed toward FHAL shareholders not current CVSU shareholders. JMO [Wink]
Yea i thought the same, but in the PR he thanked the CVSU holders for support. I wondered if he was thanking the 2 or 3 guys sitting beside him or if this involves a lot moer people.
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Jmoove,

We should easily see the $2 get touched or passed today.

We are going to see the same steps just like previous days, although today could be a steep climb. Better get those hiking boots on!!!

GO FHAL!!!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Here we go, I sort of don't want to watch. Too many quick decisions to be made.

Jo
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
MAny are going to wish they had bought this one!! What a way to start the summer.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
As 10 pointed out in the other thread the merger agreement was signed in June, I believe Rufus et al. in their minds see us all as CVSU now, make that cvsu.ob
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
I just love seeing the screen light up at 7:30 (my time out west anyway)
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
I'm waiting for the shake to get in. I'm not gonna chase. Got my buy set at 1.25
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Here we go, I sort of don't want to watch. Too many quick decisions to be made.

Jo

Jo, just sit back and enjoy the ride, everything is going to be fine..
p.s. refresh your account every once in a while and watch it grow.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
alot of MM`s lined up at 2 bucks!!
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
Man, tight gap today, .005 diff, thats a solid base
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
We get through 1.5 and we are home free baby!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Any shorts could get slaughtered in this, time will tell.

I say good!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Share are extremely tight, good luck to everyone, see you at 2.50 today
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yesterday when it sat like this...for a few minutes....it flippin' flew....
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
bid is higher than ask
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
high side on the ask is 5 bucks up from 3.40 yesterday!
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
I want to see it pass the 20 mil volume today as well and push the HOD!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
wow, nite is being so stubbord.. 2.5 pennies below bid
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
*gets nervous he might have to chase*

I don't wana buy in at 1.49 or 1.50 but I'm not sure I'll see a 1.25 shake.. darnit.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
MM's have no shares, we are about to fly!!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
bid is higher than ask

need to ignore night on the ask, spread is 1.53 X 1.54, nights quote is 10 minutes old! having him sitting at the top of the ask is confusing buyers
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
We hit a new year HIGH!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
once again the most traded stock on the OTC market today [Big Grin] ROUND OF HIGH 5's
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
ARCA is sitting at 1.6!!
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
It's like being on the roller coaster at the top of the mountain getting ready to take off

CLICK CLICK CLICK - WHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM NITE>>> WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
wow, it's like barely anything on the ask so thin thru even 1.6
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
friggin night needs to move his azz!! delayed L2`s are gonna hurt sellers. I have seen several sells at 1.50 because of where night is sitting!!
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
wow, I have never seen the bid way above the ask like this. I don't know what that means but it looks sweet.

p.s. I still have my 400k shares from .08....I'm loving every second of this.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
This is just such a freaky ride.
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
COMING DOWN, YOU MAY GET THAT 1.25 AFTER ALL
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
I got a stop order for .80, just in case.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
CYOS is flying, up over 60%
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
nice fake.. i doubt it
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
NIGHT screwed this up!! buyers selling thinking the ask was 1.50! trading at 1.565 suddenly every seller starts dumping at nights 1.50 pushing the price down!! what a dick!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
MM's are trying to keep us from breaking resistance at 1.5. They know they're in deep Sheeet!
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockstar:
wow, I have never seen the bid way above the ask like this. I don't know what that means but it looks sweet.

p.s. I still have my 400k shares from .08....I'm loving every second of this.

Unless you have a nice steel pair to hold, don't let the MMs know that. They will dip the hell outta this to take those shares
 
Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
After all the expectations, this is sort of underwhelming, no?
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hustla:
quote:
Originally posted by stockstar:
wow, I have never seen the bid way above the ask like this. I don't know what that means but it looks sweet.

p.s. I still have my 400k shares from .08....I'm loving every second of this.

Unless you have a nice steel pair to hold, don't let the MMs know that. They will dip the hell outta this to take those shares
lol, trust me, I'm waiting for the $15 no matter what.
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Black Widow HAHAHAHAHAHHA shoulda got in hahahah!!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
they got so much control.. but if they get enough of what they want they'll let it loose.. no worries, since there are a lot of suckers out there..
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BlackWidow:
After all the expectations, this is sort of underwhelming, no?

Open at .16 on Monday and today we opened at 1.41


Yea im completely underwhelmed. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
1,300 trades in the 1st 30 min, and this hasn't moved.

I lot must have been sales
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Look,
Someone is going to do a gigantic flip today!
 
Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
Sorry for being a cynic, I really am. I do have a meager 13,500 shares. But compared to the calls for opening at $2 and other expectations, sorry, but I'm underwhelmed.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by BlackWidow:
After all the expectations, this is sort of underwhelming, no?

Open at .16 on Monday and today we opened at 1.41


Yea im completely underwhelmed. [Roll Eyes]

ROFLMAO

nice shake here
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I've had a limit order set since 9:30 at a price of 1.45 to buy a few more shares and still not filled. Anyone else not gettin filled above the ask?
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
NITE is at 1.40 and 1.50 and won't budge.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
C'mon...let's gooo...move it!!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
dang, i feel sorry for those trading without L2's
these damn MM's man..
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Yeah I'm underwhelmed to hahaha I think you should sell Black Widow - hahahahahahaha -
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
I've had a limit order set since 9:30 at a price of 1.45 to buy a few more shares and still not filled. Anyone else not gettin filled above the ask?

Is it AON? Are you filled yet?
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
1400 trades in the first 30 mins.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Yea - AON for 1000 - Still NOT filled!!!
 
Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
Well, okey dokey.

So NOBODY else had high expectations (hopes, dreams) for the open?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
when you're trying to get fill in a situation like this take the AON tab off...they'll fill a couple hundred probably then the rest...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Yea - AON for 1000 - Still NOT filled!!!

Loose the AON....
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
This is going to be a good day! The MM's do not want this thing to run, but it will continue. Wait and see!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
MM`s keep trying to hold it down by sitting on the top of the ask at a price below the bid! you need real time L2`s to see this manipulation! but the MOMO is huge!! but for nights antics ealier we would already be over 2 bucks! it is comming, just going to take a little more time.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BlackWidow:
Sorry for being a cynic, I really am. I do have a meager 13,500 shares. But compared to the calls for opening at $2 and other expectations, sorry, but I'm underwhelmed.

Well, at 13500 shares i think you are going to be in good shape. Are you more of a day trader or very short term? For me, im overwhelmed because i got into this for the amazon deal...kind of short to long. This is way more than i expected.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I hate not doing aon and paying multiple commissions.

Did anyone talk to Rufus for the PR clarification everyone was arguing about last night. I looked back over thread but dont' see if anyone claified about the 15 for fhal'ers
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yes black widow.

i expected to see it leapin by dimes and quarters at the least, not piddlin thru 1.465 / 1.469 and droppin at 1.50

which is why i am watching it so closely right now. [Wink]

and yes, i got filled below 1.45 today greenday

~BB
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
it's a green week
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
MM's going to mess themselves up by pressing this down. You have to allow Rufus to get the price up higher to attract more attention!
More maybe they just don't want too much attention from the Big Boys...
 
Posted by Phoenix on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
I hate not doing aon and paying multiple commissions.

Did anyone talk to Rufus for the PR clarification everyone was arguing about last night. I looked back over thread but dont' see if anyone claified about the 15 for fhal'ers

With Scottrade (and some other brokerages) you only pay once for broken-up orders. Check your Confirms to be sure -- dont assume it's that way. If you _are_, then switch brokerages. That's insane.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Babe - LUCKY!.
My etrade is good about filling right away but I'm at my round trip limit there so I am trying with my Scottrade account. I think I just hate Sccottrade. I'll watch a few more minutes and then take off the aon if I have to.
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BlackWidow:
After all the expectations, this is sort of underwhelming, no?

MMs are collecting cheap shares, just wait by 10:30 you'll see the movement start. IMO
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
NIGHTS earlier stall on the ask stopped the early MOMO temporarily otherwise we would have seen 2 bucks in the first ten minutes!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
tried calling 4 times so far no answer....
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I remember watching GHLT. It was sitting at $4 and I thought it was way to late to buy. The next couple of days it proceeded to run to almost $10. Boy was I wrong!
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
NITE sure is a stubborn SOB.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
significant asks at 1.54 1.55 and nothing near by
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
nites quote is frozen disregard him
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by djg7:
NITE sure is a stubborn SOB.

he shure faked alot of sellers out of their shares! price will be back where he left it at 1.565 very shortly. at the moment night is closed! maybe his screw up was illeagle?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
LOL, I love the complaining here. We're up 45% in the first half hour and people are upset. It just goes to show how much we expect from this...lol.
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Tonight's CEO Interview.
"Turning your $1.50 to $15.00!!!"
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
gonna try and shake it again
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
So i accidentally sold at 1.44, any chance for a dip to get back in?
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
LOL, I love the complaining here. We're up 45% in the first half hour and people are upset. It just goes to show how much we expect from this...lol.

We're all greedy azzes...and I mean that in a good way
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey 10, I figured CHDT might drop a little but dang it's tanking, any good reason?
 
Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
Thank you, Paula!
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I took off my aon a few minutes ago - still nothing. I looked over at ihub to see what they are up to. Lots of orders not filled over there too.
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Everytime ARCA shows up you know that is Rufus taking some more shares off the table.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
omg.. idiots..
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
LOL bummer. ull get in lower tho. 1.35 is here.

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by Igor R:
So i accidentally sold at 1.44, any chance for a dip to get back in?


 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
So i accidentally sold at 1.44, any chance for a dip to get back in?
Might not have been a bad accidental move!

Jo
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
mms want shares, arca controlling the ask HARD
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
Come on baby, let me see low 1$ rang for re-entry... TANK BABY [Smile] hehe
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
g/l getting filled at 1.25

you know... i'd try to flip this if i didn't already know a whole bunch of ya can't get filled... damn..........
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
No Cassity...I can't figure it out...If it wasn't for this I would be pissed!
 
Posted by Phoenix on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
g/l getting filled at 1.25

you know... i'd try to flip this if i didn't already know a whole bunch of ya can't get filled... damn..........

I couldnt get out and I had my sell well below the bid at times. Ticks me off because I wanted to take some profit and ride free shares.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I'm out, for now. I was in pretty late at $1.04, this time, so 1.37 and 30% profit is okay with me.

Gonna see if I can get back in as more profit-taking happens.

Jo
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I'm out, for now. I was in pretty late at $1.04, this time, so 1.37 and 30% profit is okay with me.

Gonna see if I can get back in as more profit-taking happens.

Jo
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
No Cassity...I can't figure it out...If it wasn't for this I would be pissed!

Looks like it might be on it's way back up!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
That sucks...no one is getting filled? Man i almost tried to flip to!

GreenDay...you get it yet?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
wow, talking about rollercoaster, not even 1 hour yet..
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
the thing is 10... you never know when this is gonna just rocket (if it will)... it's almost giving me grey hairs thinking about it;)
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
I'm out, for now. I was in pretty late at $1.04, this time, so 1.37 and 30% profit is okay with me.

Gonna see if I can get back in as more profit-taking happens.

Jo

Very nice job [Big Grin]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
chart definately doesn't look very trendy as of right now...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
how is the bid .05 higher than the ask? that is rediculous...
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Yea - I gave up on Scottrade and went to etrade. I won't be able to sell until tomorrow in etrade but I took the risk.

Filled right away in etrade at 1.33
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
the thing is 10... you never know when this is gonna just rocket (if it will)... it's almost giving me grey hairs thinking about it;)

Yes i know...we all are going to be a bunch of gray haired people when it is all over!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I need to go get my Clairol!

Jo
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Yea - I gave up on Scottrade and went to etrade. I won't be able to sell until tomorrow in etrade but I took the risk.

Filled right away in etrade at 1.33

Note to self..never get a Scottrade account!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
I have said this before when a stock moves like this B/A changes so rapidly we see sells below the ask stalling the upward movement, these MUST be seller trading off of DELAYED L2`s! need real time to keep up! MM`s are playing with this sitting at the top of the ask below the bid! they know that quote is good for 15 minutes on delayed L2`s and it will panick traders into selling!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Cassity...i missed an awesome bounce on CHDT! ARGH!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
they are so toying with my emotions right now..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Let's hope we break and stay above 1.50 this time!!!

let's Goooooo!
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
I feel so sad not being in, but if things work out then ill be back soon, come damn it take it down for a minute lolol.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
I wonder if the 10:30am low applies to this today?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
It didn't yesterday peaser...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Hang on Igor, there will be another entry point for us soon.

Jo
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'll take it steadily climbing like this all day...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Hang on Igor, there will be another entry point for us soon.

Jo

Be Careful Jo..remember the round trip rules...seems you may be getting close...
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
were leaving the station
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
I wonder if the 10:30am low applies to this today?

I thought it was 1130? Yesterday it definitely happened around 1130 or so.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
how about rufus and ben answer THEIR DAMN PHONES!!!

oh, and how bout ppl stop selling... that'd be great too;)

oh and the MM's... how about....
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
WOW!! just saw TRAC blink on the ask at 10.40 a share!!!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
MM playing tricks to get sellers, hold tight and this will explode...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Breath P Rowds...LOL!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Breath P Rowds...LOL!

haha, sorry... phewwwwwww... getting a little bent outta shape thats all:D
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
anyone seen what paiv has done in the last 2 days? similar run to fhal...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I have a headache
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Hold tight, word is NITE is down and rerouting orders to other brokers, do not sell, when NITE is up we will fly....
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Be Careful Jo..remember the round trip rules...seems you may be getting close...
Thanks, 10of13, but I the shares I sold today I had purchased yesterday, so they don't count.

I did do another R/T yesterday, so so far I only have one.

Jo
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
Hold tight, word is NITE is down and rerouting orders to other brokers, do not sell, when NITE is up we will fly....

NITE is down??? are you serious!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Yes, call scottrade and ask for OTC specialist
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
they broke all their keyboards changing the figures so fast...
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
is it just a coincidence that NITE is down?? hrmmm..
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Post from Ihub.

Posted by: digiwench
In reply to: 6digits who wrote msg# 5193 Date:7/20/2006 10:30:08 AM
Post #of 5218

From: "Rufus Paul Harris" <harris*cvsu.us> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
To: "Digiwench" <digiwench*yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:23:14 +0000
Subject: Re: Thank you for your time to answer our questions!

Vivienne,

Thank you, everyone is very excited for all involved on this end.

Yes, I feel that the market has already picked up on it and are buying and buying, just look at the Volume, we have hit every volume alert I think that there is; as they relate to OTCBB stocks.

We have put several years in to this, and we have had a few stumbling blocks but we became the wiser to the shorter and the wide spread illegal P&D scammer (also a shorter) around the markets.

We structured this corporation bullet proof with even our own Captive Insurance Company to underwrite any potential delay or failure. We have spent a lot of time and money to get here, and I want to assure you everyone?s eagle has landed.

I hope this helps

And Thanks for your questions.

Rufus Paul Harris

Conversion Solutions, Inc.

Direct line: 678-255-7650

Harris*cvsu.us

CVSU.US

-----Original Message-----
From: Viv Clark [mailto:viv*vivclark.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 02:36 AM
To: Harris*cvsu.us
Subject: Thank you for your time to answer our questions!


Mr. Harris,

We are impressed and gratified that you would take time from what must be an incredibly strenuous schedule to answer our questions, so I will be brief.

Many of us are overwhelmed by the events of the past week, and have been busy reading and researching as much as a 24 hour day allows.

I think I speak for many when I say we have come to the conclusion that CVSU is an amazing corporation, one whose potential, we suspect, has not yet been realized.

Would you think it correct to say that shares of CVSU are valuable, and will probably increase in value as the potential of this firm is realized as a publically traded entity?


I look forward to hearing more of your insights tomorrow evening,

Cheers!

V
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
that was kind of a waste of an email...
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
MM's gotta be careful in playing this one.
They should really let this one build more steam, otherwise they might regret it...
Don't want to be too obvious here..
But somewhere around upper $1's can do them more good in building more confidence and steam for this stock.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
yea, hope they don't kill the momentum and ppl's enthusiasm..
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
that was kind of a waste of an email...

haha yeah no kidding... way to ask a CEO an opinion about HIS company... could have been something usefull like asking details about how the 15 dollars relates to FHAL owners...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks, 10of13, but I the shares I sold today I had purchased yesterday, so they don't count.

I did do another R/T yesterday, so so far I only have one.

Jo

Double check with your broker...even if you bought yesterday and sold today...that is still a round trip in the 5 day period...

Just want you to be careful...Have fun!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
anyone seen what paiv has done in the last 2 days? similar run to fhal...

I covered my (JPHC) shares at $0.0009 during the Ameritrade fiasco, it's up 280 times higher now, I wish I had bought a lot more on the open market back then lol
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Look what time a day it is. This looks pretty strong if you ask me(which you didn't, but I'm telling you anyways). I hope for a surge in the next hour.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
NITE is back, it appears
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
NITE is back, it appears

yes he is and at 1.50!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hmmm... maybe i won't cancel my eye appointment.......
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Double check with your broker...even if you bought yesterday and sold today...that is still a round trip in the 5 day period...

Nope. They still have me listed as having only 1 round-trip. Ameritrade puts a little warning up on your account page that says:
Day trade/round trips: 1 in last 5 days or less.

So I'm good to go. (but not sure I WANT to again LOL)

Jo
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I think nite is still broken! LOL
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
it`s incredible the way the L2`s are bouncing around!! this thing is a powder keg getting ready to EXPLODE!!! watch out ABOVE!!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
now we're moving!
 
Posted by Phoenix on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Thanks, 10of13, but I the shares I sold today I had purchased yesterday, so they don't count.

I did do another R/T yesterday, so so far I only have one.

Jo

Double check with your broker...even if you bought yesterday and sold today...that is still a round trip in the 5 day period...

Just want you to be careful...Have fun!

No, it's only a roundtrip if you buy and sell the same stock in the SAME day.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
What's the real time quote, I'm at work
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Looking GOOD!!!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
wow, wall at 1.5
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
1.495 x 1.495

2 x 1
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
What's the real time quote, I'm at work

fighting crime??

Bid 1.41 Ask 1.42
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Seems like support is in the upper-1.30's, resistance at 1.49 or so.

Has anyone been playing these ups and downs? Buying at say $1.37 and selling at 1.47?

Seems like this one could be a flippers dream.

Jo
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
the price dropped 9 ticks on a thousand shares!!! whats up with that!! people trading off delayed L2`s? any thoughts on that?
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
What's the real time quote, I'm at work

fighting crime??

Bid 1.41 Ask 1.42

NO, that's superman's job, I pimp out Wonder Woman, while he's out saving the world. LoL
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Morning all [Wink] Did I miss anything good? Anyone shower? lol;)
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
needs to break through 1.60 then 2+ will come up FAST!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
What's the real time quote, I'm at work

fighting crime??

Bid 1.41 Ask 1.42

NO, that's superman's job, I pimp out Wonder Woman, while he's out saving the world. LoL
Batman...i always knew you were the Pimp...LOL
[Wink]
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
LoL
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Who here hates UBSS, and NITE!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Seems like support is in the upper-1.30's, resistance at 1.49 or so.

Has anyone been playing these ups and downs? Buying at say $1.37 and selling at 1.47?

Seems like this one could be a flippers dream.

Jo

Not today, .10 - .15 ain't worth the effort for me, cashed all out freebies and flippers at 1.54 earlier.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i actually showered 3 min ago... came back and see nothing spectacular:D just the same ole 38-45% up... [Smile] looks like i'm going to my eye apointment
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
good point.

Well, here's those high 1.30's again.

Jo
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
12:30ish looks to be the end of this penant.

Needs to hold above $1.36 here.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I sold half at 1.49...after the 3rd or 4th time of trying to break 1.5...I'have a buy in for 1.10..if it does what it did yestaerday...I'm prepaired....LOL
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
12:30ish looks to be the end of this penant.

Needs to hold above $1.36 here.

is that a good end or a bad end?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Peaser...LOL..this wasn't working yesterday...I am wondering if it will do the same...
Do you think it needs to fill the gap from this morning?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey 10 I think it needs to fill the gap between 1.5 and 2.0. JMO [Wink]
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Hey 10 I think it needs to fill the gap between 1.5 and 2.0. JMO [Wink]

let it fill the gap between 1.06-1.10, first [Big Grin] .
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
maybe everyone who waited for the gap to fill at .135 will get the chance to miss this run too waitng for the gap to fill at 1.06!!!
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
VIEW is a POS
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
Taken her down slowly
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Anyone get in touch with Harris?
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
Heres my drop!! w00t.... come on baby.. nice and easy... not tooo fast.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
anyone catching it on the dip?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
anyone catching it on the dip?

In at 1.24
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
my time and sales history shows a sell at 9:33 for .90 does that fill the gap???
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
anyone catching it on the dip?

in at 1.29, not bad, but not great either. But hey gained some shares, can't complain.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
my time and sales history shows a sell at 9:33 for .90 does that fill the gap???

anyone??
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
This is good. We might accutally build a decent base at around 1.3, if we get past 1.5 with momentum, we'll see $2 easy. JMHO
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Can anyone explain why the ask has been above the bid a lot more today than the last two?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'm going to take a shower! Seriously [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
my time and sales history shows a sell at 9:33 for .90 does that fill the gap???

anyone??
Not according to my chart...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
You go Donniboy!!!!!!!!! [Wink]
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Like now:

bid 1.32
ask 1.335
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
Like now:

bid 1.32
ask 1.335

Seems very normal to me! [Smile]
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Just checking to see how many of you are awake today!!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Out at 1.30 and just fyi it took a longer time to sell than yesterday.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Prowds, you get a hold of anyone yet?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
Out at 1.30 and just fyi it took a longer time to sell than yesterday.

My sell at 1.49...went through very fast...but I was selling on the way up...maybe you were selling on the way down?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
10 of 13 wrote:
quote:
I sold half at 1.49...after the 3rd or 4th time of trying to break 1.5...I'have a buy in for 1.10..if it does what it did yestaerday...I'm prepaired....LOL
Good play, 10 of 13.

I also have a buy in for $1.10. But I'm beginning to reconsider. I don't want to have any regrets.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Hey peaser...what does your penant say?
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Wish there were some excitement here...Maybe a nap is in order...LOL
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
thought this was supposed to go up not down!!is this a shake or what is going on?
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
thought this was supposed to go up not down!!is this a shake or what is going on?

Usual lunchtime shake/dip.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Hey peaser...what does your penant say?

"GO YANKEE"S!!!"
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
what is the deal with the 15$ is that for sure ?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Hey peaser...what does your penant say?

"GO YANKEE"S!!!"
Smart a$$! Are you in yet?

Lookin' for it to bounce from about 1.05 or so...Maybe? we shall see...god i hope so...please?!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
fillin that gap HARD
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
thought this was supposed to go up not down!!is this a shake or what is going on?

remember yesterday when it did the big fall from 1.5 down to like 90?
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
GOOOOOOO YANKEES!!!!!! YANKEES NUMBERO UNO!!!!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
omg
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
anyone who bought yesterday is still UP so sales going through are most likely people tryin to lock in their profits...should bounce soon once gap is pretty much filled and new traders who bought today will hold on till back in the 1.50's
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
10 of 13,

Our $1.10 is almost here, are you keeping your buy order in?

I moved mine down to 1.04 for now.

Jo

Well, nevermind then, looks like $1.11 was as low as it went.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
hope we close 2$ but not sure of that anymore!!what everybody's guess as what close will be and is tommorow going up or down???
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Not in there yet 10.....Not so sure this is done shaken yet...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
a close above 1.20 would keep this alive for a nice gap tomorrow, but I would put money on profit taking tomorrow as the day wears on and we close the week out at .95-1.05
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Jo..Moved it to 1.08...but something tells me....I should go lower...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee what are you lookin' at for buying in? or aren't you?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think this will affect this tomorrow, one way or the other. JMO

FROM- IHUB

Posted by: JJSeabrook
In reply to: None Date:7/20/2006 11:37:26 AM
Post #of 5402

FHAL CEO INTERVIEW ON PALTALK TONIGHT, 8:00 P.M. CST PRESENTED BY TRADERS CORNER

Please go to the following link for details.

[URL=http://traderscorner.p r o b o a r d s79.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=115337342...]http://trader scorner.********s79.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thre ad=115337342...[/URL]

Room will open at 7:30 and is limited to 200 members.

See you there tonight!

JJ

[ July 20, 2006, 12:36: Message edited by: cassity ]
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I'm hoping it will close above 1.07 and I am sure some will take profits on Friday. That usually is a take profit day for some.
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
Can you fix that link cassity, i want to check it out.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
replace the stars by p r o b o a r d without spaces
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
this is hilarious, people buying at 1.21 when the bid is at 1.17 and ask is 1.18...pay the $10/month fee for live l2's and save money in the long run
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
i would hate to be the person who bought at 1.57 today.
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
yahplaya, who do you get your live L2's from?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
sure moves fast !
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Maumee what are you lookin' at for buying in? or aren't you?

There are alott of peep's out ther that have huge share amounts at the lows just hangen in for a more monster kill.... New players have no ware neer the qty. that the old players have...unless they are super wealthy....

When the ones that have been in along time sell out, this thing is gunna come down hard IMO... It's outta ballance I think... That shake is almost a needed thing in order to make the $15 thing a reality..IMO

I don't think this will run today....Think it will cose at 1.19

I'm probably wrong...LOL

Blew it on this one BAD!!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
yea, it's scary to think about the old players.. they can take the house down..
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Right, but I'm not sure they'd do it at these levels.

But once it gets past $2.00 - $3.00. LOOK OUT!

Jo
 
Posted by kcool on :
 
guys do you think its worth getting into this one now ... what do you reckon the near future is going to be like .. thanx for any help ... i am still new to this ...
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
is support building up again here? 1.25
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
kcool, wait till tomorrow to get in or even monday. Then again if the CEO comes on tonight for the interview and says "ALL shareholders, including FHAL shareholders are getting $15 per share" youll be late, and lights out.
 
Posted by kcool on :
 
thanx jmoove
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Or if he comes on and says, "Oh yeah, we are doing a reverse split, and by the way, you're shares will now be restricted....", you'd be glad you were late.

[Smile]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Maumee what are you lookin' at for buying in? or aren't you?

There are alott of peep's out ther that have huge share amounts at the lows just hangen in for a more monster kill.... New players have no ware neer the qty. that the old players have...unless they are super wealthy....

When the ones that have been in along time sell out, this thing is gunna come down hard IMO... It's outta ballance I think... That shake is almost a needed thing in order to make the $15 thing a reality..IMO

I don't think this will run today....Think it will cose at 1.19

I'm probably wrong...LOL

Blew it on this one BAD!!!

thats a good point< I know if i had a million shares at .11/.12 I would deffinately be selling a good portion of them now! i would hold a good portion but it would be awfully hard to pass up 70 or 80 grand in profits!! at this price you would have to sell in small orders to keep the price up. maybe thats what is happening. once everyone settles in selling pressure will drop off and the price will climb and keep climbing! i posted yesterday the BIG move up would start early next week. what do you think?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Or if he comes on and says, "Oh yeah, we are doing a reverse split, and by the way, you're shares will now be restricted....", you'd be glad you were late.

[Smile]

I like they way you think!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Ya!!
It is mind boggeling, isn't it??

This is playen like a futures maket right now....

Volitilitity is potentially insane....

What to do....What to doooo???/
 
Posted by kcool on :
 
what do you think i should set my buy at?
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Or if he comes on and says, "Oh yeah, we are doing a reverse split, and by the way, you're shares will now be restricted....", you'd be glad you were late.

[Smile]

Wouldn't the shareholders have to approve a reverse split????
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
didn't someone ask rufus over the phone if orginal FHAL shareholders were included, and he said "yes" ...?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
This is being featured on at least 10 of those paid-pumper stock sites.

Jo
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
That is sumthin you should se yourself...

You can read back in the thread and see what some others have set an order at....I think I saw a few that are at 1.10


Good Luck
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Or if he comes on and says, "Oh yeah, we are doing a reverse split, and by the way, you're shares will now be restricted....", you'd be glad you were late.

[Smile]

I dont see why he would do that though, after he told numerous people on the phone that he wouldnt do a RS
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
This has still got to close the spread between the old money and the new....I'm not sayen it will tank....I'm sayen that it may consolidate for a bit...Maybe correct a little more..

It's still lookin damn strong long term...

Gotta go to the hospital and check on Mom!!

Good luck Gang!!!
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
It seems like the DD/pumping (whatever you call it) for stocks keeps getting better and better.

A few weeks ago we had Bigdaddy at IHUB for XKEM, now we have JJSeabrook at IHUB for FHAL, who arranged that interview with the CEO.

Their efforts deffinently helped the runs that XKEM and FHAL had.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Hope she's doin' better maumee...
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
come on.. hurry up and finish the lunch
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
so... i go to my eye appointment, get my eyes dialated.... i can't see sh#$ i try to look at my streaming quotes to see this... what have you guys been doing all day? by some shares and let this thing soar:D ahaha, j/k...

cass, none of them are answering their phones... doubtful they will all day... probably gonna let everyone know after the buzzer. which really kinda urks me. IMO that could be good.... or it could be bad.... obviously they want this thing to soar. but a PR after hours yesterday keeps this thing green. then an interview tonight afterhours... will it keep it green for the week... or will it bomb with different news than he's told hundreds of investors all week... guess we hafta wait and see
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
so... i go to my eye appointment, get my eyes dialated.... i can't see sh#$ i try to look at my streaming quotes to see this... what have you guys been doing all day? by some shares and let this thing soar:D ahaha, j/k...

cass, none of them are answering their phones... doubtful they will all day... probably gonna let everyone know after the buzzer. which really kinda urks me. IMO that could be good.... or it could be bad.... obviously they want this thing to soar. but a PR after hours yesterday keeps this thing green. then an interview tonight afterhours... will it keep it green for the week... or will it bomb with different news than he's told hundreds of investors all week... guess we hafta wait and see

Exactly, tonight is D day, it will either make it or TANK it, lets just hope its the former
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
the thing that also kinda scares me is that according to an ihub post by Sir Rufus himself... he's planning on retiring in a few months........ i'm pretty sure i read that there... lemme go double check
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
the scary thing is the fluctuation in this, its making me bipolar!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
going back to sleep nothing ....
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
it seems to me they want to move this in the PM, who knows, man

Happy--sad---happy---elated---sad---sadder--happiest <----that is my stock ticker lol
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
What would have been the point of everything we've been told in the 8k, via personal phone calls to Harris, etc. if the PR is negative and contradicts the info to date? makes absolutely no sense to me. This entire process of them trying to move to the NASDAQ would have to turn out to be a complete sham. Seems like a lot of time, effort, and money to spend to achieve that result.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris
In reply to: dragon52 who wrote msg# 4857 Date:7/20/2006 4:06:06 AM
Post #of 5464

Overwhelming Growth is a pain in the azz, if not part of the plan early on.

Bring home a kitten and wake up with a tiger, It has been a lot of fun though and it is very exciting to build something and see it take a life all of its own.

Wouldn’t miss it for the world, although I do play to Retire in 3-6 months and raise Throughbred horses.

Rufus Paul Harris
Conversion Solutions, Inc.
Direct line: 678-255-7650
Harris*cvsu.us
CVSU.US

I dunno, maybe i'm just thinking too far into it but... after a big ordeal like this and just up and retire after 3-6 months raising horses??? haha.... who knows maybe it's just me
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
What would have been the point of everything we've been told in the 8k, via personal phone calls to Harris, etc. if the PR is negative and contradicts the info to date? makes absolutely no sense to me. This entire process of them trying to move to the NASDAQ would have to turn out to be a complete sham. Seems like a lot of time, effort, and money to spend to achieve that result.

Im just preparing myself for the Sh$ttiest possible result
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
What would have been the point of everything we've been told in the 8k, via personal phone calls to Harris, etc. if the PR is negative and contradicts the info to date? makes absolutely no sense to me. This entire process of them trying to move to the NASDAQ would have to turn out to be a complete sham. Seems like a lot of time, effort, and money to spend to achieve that result.

exactly MT... but i dunno... i'm gonna be real paranoid and just say that something isn't right:D haha... dunno, as i said earlier... why give thousands of ppl a free winning lotto ticket?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
found a curious indicator on the L2 line up, the price has been following it pretty closely if it keeps that trend then this going to go up!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
well I sold at 1.24, for the simple reason that there's too much doubt...
I might buy back in again later but I'm happy with my gain
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
What would have been the point of everything we've been told in the 8k, via personal phone calls to Harris, etc. if the PR is negative and contradicts the info to date? makes absolutely no sense to me. This entire process of them trying to move to the NASDAQ would have to turn out to be a complete sham. Seems like a lot of time, effort, and money to spend to achieve that result.

Im just preparing myself for the Sh$ttiest possible result
That's fair.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
What would have been the point of everything we've been told in the 8k, via personal phone calls to Harris, etc. if the PR is negative and contradicts the info to date? makes absolutely no sense to me. This entire process of them trying to move to the NASDAQ would have to turn out to be a complete sham. Seems like a lot of time, effort, and money to spend to achieve that result.

exactly MT... but i dunno... i'm gonna be real paranoid and just say that something isn't right:D haha... dunno, as i said earlier... why give thousands of ppl a free winning lotto ticket?
My point exactly, why give us a free ride? The 8K and the PR seem to point to that, but they also seem like they are trying to mask the actual truth for us FHAL sh's
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
good job hannibull... we'll see, i'm not bashing... i'm curious as everyone else and i do have high hopes for it. but c'mon... everyone has to have a little doubt/paranoia:)
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
found a curious indicator on the L2 line up, the price has been following it pretty closely if it keeps that trend then this going to go up!

I was going to say something along those lines, but didn't want to look like a jacka$$
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
I dunno, maybe i'm just thinking too far into it but... after a big ordeal like this and just up and retire after 3-6 months raising horses???
Hmmm, he'll be retiring...at whose expense?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Way to go Hannibull, profit good, bag holder bad.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Prowds, why would his retiring in 3-6 months worry you. I think he'll get this company in a good position, and reap the rewards of his labors for years to come. I'm sure he has stock and the best way to make his stock worthless is to screw all of us investors. Remember the stock he has is still old CVSU stock, won't be worth sheet until after merger. This of course is my opinion.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
as of 11-5-5 he owns 7.6 million shares of CVSU -do the math [Eek!]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
if rufus has been buying up the float it would seem reasonable he would want to sell them for a profit. if CVSU really does trade at 15 bucks or more he could certainly afford to retire and who could blame him!!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
good job hannibull... we'll see, i'm not bashing... i'm curious as everyone else and i do have high hopes for it. but c'mon... everyone has to have a little doubt/paranoia:)

I know you're not bashing, I've followed your posts [Wink] I'm happy with a profit and I want to see black on white if we get $7-15 yes or no, thats all. For me the game is paused, I'll press the start button again once people on the message boards seem confident again and there's buying pressure (momentum) AND we know more, that's when I'm buying again
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
as of 11-5-5 he owns 7.6 million shares of CVSU -do the math [Eek!]

Exactly, how much are those worth right now! ZERO! [Wink]
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
as of 11-5-5 he owns 7.6 million shares of CVSU -do the math [Eek!]

Exactly, how much are those worth right now! ZERO! [Wink]
[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Huge bid support, we be going higher. While doubters argue with one another, I will make money, thanks for your shares.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
as of 11-5-5 he owns 7.6 million shares of CVSU -do the math [Eek!]

Exactly, how much are those worth right now! ZERO! [Wink]
Rufus needs this merger in order to get "his" shares of CVSU to be traded in the open market...and then the man is rich...this is what this boils down to...IMO
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
oops.... hehe
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
Don't take my last post wrong . . . I fully recognize that we are all different . . . in investment style, the way we analyze, our goals, how we justify, our risk tolerance, etc. It's not my intention to shun negative thoughts - in fact, I encourage them because it's all part of the comprehensive process to fully assess a situation and consider all angles.

While everyone is here to make some money for themselves (at least, I would have to believe that to be true:) ), I fully appreciate the time, effort, and input many of you are putting forth and just want to say "thanks!"
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
as of 11-5-5 he owns 7.6 million shares of CVSU -do the math [Eek!]

Exactly, how much are those worth right now! ZERO! [Wink]
however... if the pr relates, and i emphasize *IF*, only to old CVSU holders than he makes a killing... yeah, i understand how that works... but like i said, no one knows yet how this will pan out. and as i said, not bashing just bringing up semi-valid points in my opinion haha... who knows... they could be only semi-valid in my eyes haha...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
looking at the chart this closes at about 1.60?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
My wife has slapped me on the back of the head twice today for not selling. I told her that I have nads of steel and she said have you visited them on the mantle lately. [Smile]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
arca just does not want to let this go yet
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
as of 11-5-5 he owns 7.6 million shares of CVSU -do the math [Eek!]

Exactly, how much are those worth right now! ZERO! [Wink]
however... if the pr relates, and i emphasize *IF*, only to old CVSU holders than he makes a killing... yeah, i understand how that works... but like i said, no one knows yet how this will pan out. and as i said, not bashing just bringing up semi-valid points in my opinion haha... who knows... they could be only semi-valid in my eyes haha...
I take no offense to good discussion, or people selling and making profit. I hope for the best for all of us. [Big Grin] [Wink]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I wonder if they are not letting it go because they are working with cvsu? Just a thought
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
in reference to my last post... just a little ponder moment. ok so ben and rufus only shareholders(of cvsu) that we know of as of right now. so they win out of this big time... we on the other hand.... get market prices. they get all of cvsu's "assets" you kinda get what i'm sayin/seeing/thinking? just a thought... don't go off of it and please don't get all jumpy and crazy about it...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
can you rephrase that last part?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
can you rephrase that last part?

which part... the assets part i guess. well they have all these bonds, etc... well i can't remember but anyways they have money to pay the "current" cvsu shareholders... which happens to be rufus and ben haha (which is ridiculous in my opinion) sooooo, if the 15 dollars relates to only them. they get the big payout by conversion and not fronthaul shareholders... hell, i'd retire too [Wink]
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Is it me or is volume picking up!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
thats what i thought you meant...but then again...thats what I have been thinking since i really read that PR last night...after the initial happiness wore off...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
holy cow...did someone just buy/sell a really big block?
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
*feels dumb for selling* [Big Grin] I hope santa clause gives me a magic ball this winter lol
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
So here's part of the PR
quote:
We would also like to thank the CVSU shareholder base; our success is because of every single one of you. We have received a lot of calls concerning the merger details filed in the 8-k with the SEC. ....

So you're saying Rufus and Ben ARE the shareholder base? I can just imagine them chuckling to each other while writing this PR.

Jo
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
this stock moves up and down 5-10% every 10min it seems like..
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Is it me or is volume picking up!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
WTF?! ok got stanley on the phone... have to call him back in 20 minutes (he had someone call him and he HAD to take it) anyways... i tried breaking down the share structure on how the ticker change will work and thats when he got the "call" but at first i asked the basics and he said yes fhal shareholders... didn't get to ask the float DAMN IT!!! he probably just wrote down my number from the caller ID and now won't answer again;)
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
after callin both of em every half hour he probably thought it was important:D... if i don't get to talk to him again all day....... i dunno, put up the flag higher in my eyes...
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
well I sold at 1.24, for the simple reason that there's too much doubt...
I might buy back in again later but I'm happy with my gain

I dumped all at 1.25

Had a bad feeling I guess.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I swear! Rufus just took my call on his cell phone that is listed on their website 678-255-7650.

I asked "I own FHAL today. Am I guaranteed $15 a share on the 7/28 or 8/1 merger date on all my shares that I hold today. He said "yes hon - you sure are" I said "that sounds way to good to be true, how can you do that?" He said the regualtions of reorgaiznations allow companies to stop the market and reset the price per share at reorganization."
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
if you look at the charts... this looks like a continuation of 1425 yesterday... kinda wierd...
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Somebody bought at 1.49 when the ask was 1.29.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
nothing wrong with taking a profit of course [Smile] If I feel confident that we'll get a higher $ number for our shares then I'll buy back in again, even if I'd have to buy at a slightly higher price. I'll listen to the interview tonight (even though it's at 2AM my time lol) and see what he has to say. I still keep that email in mind (page 94, scroll down) that someone from England got from his broker TD Waterhouse UK, saying he would get $7.12 per share (in other words, the book value), so... lots of questionmarks for me right now.
good luck everyone! definitely not bashing here, this stock's been great [Big Grin]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
hrrmm.. maybe gaurantee the $15 market open price.. but the fine prints? do we still be qualified for the other options such as paying the diff if it drops.. lol..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
You guys..everyone is trying to figure this out too much...just play it..and get out before the merger/reorginization...
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I can not sell yet anyway. I have a couple days to go till funds settled. I will be keeping a close eye on this one..
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
you can always sell can't you? it's just ur cash will be tied up in limbo
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
If she bought with unsettled funds...she "can't" sell..or she could get "restricted"..
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Going up!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yes..Up! let's move it!!!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
If she bought with unsettled funds...she "can't" sell..or she could get "restricted"..

ah... thank goodness ameritrade won't let you buy with unsettled on cash account
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
anyone else want to shoot the ARCA's right now!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
kinda off topic here...how does the market cap change?
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
I swear! Rufus just took my call on his cell phone that is listed on their website 678-255-7650.

I asked "I own FHAL today. Am I guaranteed $15 a share on the 7/28 or 8/1 merger date on all my shares that I hold today. He said "yes hon - you sure are" I said "that sounds way to good to be true, how can you do that?" He said the regualtions of reorgaiznations allow companies to stop the market and reset the price per share at reorganization."

can anyone confirm if they can really do that? (resetting the price)
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
wouldn't the market then just naturally "fix" it's position...as in just revert right back to where it should be?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
intraday boli's are awfully tight time for a move up or down of some significance
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
NITE can go as well as ARCA.
 
Posted by JohnDoe on :
 
C/P
Posted by: Dr Bill
In reply to: None
Date:7/20/2006 2:19:16 PM
Post #of 5593

LOOK HERE!!!!!!!

I just spoke with Mr Harris

He informed me that he was unlikely to be able to do the interview this evening at the site mentioned because of the limited number of spots (200 i think) available for listeners

he told me that he was going to have to put up another live site, or do something to make sure that all the people who wanted to attend, could. He is still going to try doing the webcast tonight and my simultaneously cast it there and somewhere else as well...

He told me that we would be seeing PR about the webcast/Press Conference before too long, so I guess we have another chance to see if this dude is FOS or not. He sounded honest, and told me that they had bought what they considered to be the float of FHAL and "didn't know where these shares were coming from"

my BS meter is riding high, here, but then again it always does! LOL. Then again I rode SPEA from 1.00 to $17 in one day when Elvis bought them out, too

Harris said the filings of the 10Q would be done on first of the week, and the symbol change would happen, as would the restting the price soon thereafter.

He sounded like a guy who's got $800MM at his disposal and was getting the audit done for the FHAL right now, as in hours.

I guess we'll see shortly

Regards,
Dr Bill

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12143180
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
My eyes hurt like heck, from looking at this stupid computer screen!!!!!!!! [Cool]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Still boring? Still GREEEEN!!! Callme at 345pm so i am awake to see the eod at 570....... enjoy im napping again!!!!!!!!!!!GLTY
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
wouldn't the market then just naturally "fix" it's position...as in just revert right back to where it should be?

thats what I think CRab. what makes up a market after all, buyers and sellers! I wonder if there's going to be many buyers around $15 for people to sell to when the market opens at the adjust price of 15 dollars. What do you guys think will happen?

In may when JPHC became PAIV and the market opened we saw tons of sells and no buy orders to catch those sell orders, result? It went down 90% or something (...and then recovered 29,000% haha)

Im not bashing (thats never my intention, im not like that), I just want your opinions, and if Im saying something wrong please correct me
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
looks like the MM`s are changing the B/A with every buy / sell order they get. shares are tight! I see this creeping up to 1.50 range again very shortly!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Oh puleez what kind of excuse is that? The site not having enough room for all who want to attend? Why doesn't he just do another interview on MSN1

Jo
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
NEWS OUT!
 
Posted by JohnDoe on :
 
NEWS!!!!
Thursday, July 20 2006 2:48 PM, EST

Conversion Solutions, Inc. Announces Important Additions to the Executive Team for AISS


KENNESAW, Ga., July 20 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC: CVSU), (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL), a Delaware Corporation is proud to announce the addition to our Executive staff of Mr. Kuczynski and Mr. Eirich.

Mr. Kuczynski and Mr. Eirich will hold the CVSU Board of Director positions in the joint venture corporation American International Smart Structure (AISS).

"CVSU would like to welcome to the company structure Mr. Kuczynski and Mr. Eirich, we believe that their addition to our Executive staff will be a great start to the launch of AISS," stated COO Ben Stanley.

"I am very excited about my opportunity to become an employee of CVSU. It is an honor to be included with the existing distinguished members of CVSU and its strong management team. I look forward to my involvement in the AISS project as well as the other innovative programs of CVSU. I would be remiss if I did not extend an extraordinary thanks to Ms. Sabra Dabbs, Executive Vice President, for her efforts and support," stated Tom Kuczynski.

"It is with great excitement and enthusiasm that I join the team at Conversion Solutions. In particular, I look forward to making a substantial contribution to the success of the Smart Structures Project as well as to the other project under development at CVSU, and I extend my sincere appreciation to Ms. Sabra Dabbs, Executive Vice President for making this opportunity possible," stated Don Eirich.

Mr. Kuczynski and Mr. Eirich have a combined experience of over 40 years of service within the U.S. Government and as representatives of a wide range of international and U.S. companies within the Washington establishment. Their influence within Washington is based on their strong ties to the majority Republican Party which currently controls the White House and both houses of Congress. Their individual qualifications and accomplishments are listed below:

Thomas Kuczynski

For the past 25 years Mr. Kuczynski has been a principal lobbyist for a major U.S. natural gas company. During that time he developed very close relations with congressmen and senators, particularly from the Republican Party. His efforts in raising millions of dollars in campaign funds for these Republican officials have been greatly appreciated, and his influence among members of Congress is widely recognized within the Washington lobbying community. As a result of this funding support, Mr. Kuczynski has been able to achieve numerous victories within the Congress for his clients. He has particularly strong ties to the chairmen of the House Appropriation Committees. These powerful congressmen determine which programs will be funded in each year's budget.

Don Eirich

After serving 20 years in the U.S. Marine Corps, Col. Eirich was appointed by the Republican Reagan White House to serve as the Director of Southeast Asian Affairs in the Department of Defense. In that capacity, Eirich was recognized as an expert on Southeast Asia and was awarded the Secretary of Defense's Medal for Outstanding Public Service in recognition of his contribution to the successful transfer of power between the Marcos and Aquino Administrations in the Philippines. During this time he was responsible for maintaining the defense relationship with the Philippine Armed Forces against criticism within the Congress and became a trusted associate of the Honorable Caspar Weinberger, the former Secretary of Defense, the Honorable Richard Armitage, the former Deputy Secretary of State, and the Honorable James Kelly, the former Assistant Secretary of State for East Asia. Upon leaving the U.S. Government, Col. Eirich became an effective representative of companies wishing to do business in Washington. One of his notable clients was Indonesian Aircraft Industries (IPTN). While under contract with IPTN, Col Eirich obtained the agreement of the U.S. Department of Transportation to establish a procedure that would lead to the granting of an FAA airworthiness certificate for the CN-235. Col Eirich was also able to obtain the agreement of the U.S. Department of Defense to offer financing for a sale of the CN-235 to the Philippine Air force.

Colonel Eirich, a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy, is currently a senior official with an NGO, the U.S.-Indonesia Society (USINDO). In that capacity, he handles defense affairs and relations with the Congress. Last year Colonel Eirich led a successful effort on the Hill that resulted in the restoration of defense relations between the US and Indonesia.

"A great addition to our staff, and I think that their resumes say it all," stated Rufus Paul Harris.

About Conversion Solutions, Inc

CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us. Current Joint Venture Corporations

American International Smart Structure

Brittenum Brothers Entertainment, Inc.

Rocky Road Records, Inc.

Seko Management Inc.

Consolidated Mastering, Inc.

Current wholly owned CVSU Subsidiaries

Tserof Holdings Inc

CVSU Coffee Shop

Equine Solutions, Inc

Stargate Productions, Inc.

Current Waatle Merger Subsidiaries

Live Mortgage Free

Federal Chamber of Commerce

Center State Beverage

LotteryFever

InfinityOne, Inc

Amruss Group, LLC

LoanShoppers.com

SOURCE Conversion Solutions, Inc.

Contact Information: Rufus Paul Harris, CEO, +1-678-255-7650, or Harris*cvsu.us, or Ben F. Stanley, COO, +1-317-213-7700, or BenStanley*aol.com, both of Conversion Solutions, Inc.

WebSite: http://www.cvsu.us
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
madmoney, did your L2's just get a lot thinner on the ask?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
huh? all this is saying is they hired a couple more guys right? althought the lobbyist colonel seems to be pretty useful...
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
hell of a team! if they want the price above 15 bucks this is a good start! my guess is there will be many positive developments such as this released in the days running up to the symbol change and more after! this looks better every day IMO!!!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
madmoney, did your L2's just get a lot thinner on the ask?

yes they are looking pretty good! setting up for a run to 2.00+ IMO. ( P.S. - did you get my second PM? )
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Looks like they are keeping their word as to the PR's being released. This is HUGE look at the company these guys are from AISS. This company is one of the HUGE contract CVSU has going, if I'm not mistaken about 7.1 billion. JMO
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
got off the phone with ben... he was in a hurry didn't have much time. i got the same response... they will perform a halt... and reopen as cvsu ticker at 15 dollars. he said they are going to submit the 10k and they are allowed to do that. so it looks like the real deal folks.... he said at this time they will not release the numbers of the float? dunno why...
i know i know... well what about the interview? whens the 10k released? when can we expect another pr? when will the ticker change be? how long is the halt period...? he made it clear he was in a hurry and he kinda sounded frustrated. i recommend someone calling and finding out if there will be a split. i really want confirmation on that... just call after call after call. thats how i got through the last 2 times...
 
Posted by JohnDoe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Looks like they are keeping their word as to the PR's being released. This is HUGE look at the company these guys are from AISS. This company is one of the HUGE contract CVSU has going, if I'm not mistaken about 7.1 billion. JMO

You're damn right cassity..and it's just the beginning more PR's will follow.

PS:after this i'll buy one F22 just for the hell of it. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
CVSU is a private company (owned buy Rufas and Stanley)
"They" want to be able to trade those stocks
CVSU "claims" they are worth at least $15/share

CVSU buys FHAL (already done),
They will merge
Old CVSU share holders will get 1 share of "FHAL" shares for each CVSU they have
(really RUFAS AND STANLEY will now have 2 shares of the "merged" company)
All shares are now called "CVSU"...
If on the close of day on the first trading day of the "new" ticker symbol..CVSU...does not close at or above the $15.00 mark...all CVSU holders(forget about the symbol of FHAL..it no longer excists)will recieve the difference in $...

Why does this sound "rediculas"? Stanley and Rufas..."own" CVSU...they are buying up shares of FHAL to bring the PPS up...(supply and demand)
They will "own" so many shares of the new stock...I can't even imagine...even if they pay the difference to share holders...they will be able to retire...just as Rufas stated in his "chat" session..he can retire in 2-3 months...

My guess is...that on that second trading day of the new stock...they dump ALL those shares that they have bought up the past few weeks...talk about mega bucks!

IMO!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Once this PR sinks in we'll be on are way to $2 real fast. GLTA
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnDoe:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Looks like they are keeping their word as to the PR's being released. This is HUGE look at the company these guys are from AISS. This company is one of the HUGE contract CVSU has going, if I'm not mistaken about 7.1 billion. JMO

You're damn right cassity..and it's just the beginning more PR's will follow.

PS:after this i'll buy one F22 just for the hell of it. [Big Grin]

i dunno johndoe... the maintenance may be pretty expensive [Big Grin]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
10... i completely agree. however, rufus said he "intended on keeping the shares and hopefully the share holders do too so it goes up and up and up" right out of his mouth from when i called a few days ago...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i know...and the crewing fees will eat you alive...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think the RUMOR that Rufus and Ben are the only shareholders is B.S. The info was old. They have been involved with this company AISS after that and I'm sure many shares have been released. MY OPINION
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
"told me that they had bought what they considered to be the float of FHAL and "didn't know where these shares were coming from"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this part is true we may be in for a huge short squeeze!!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Just a side note: I hope all this does work out just like they say, and I wish I could see the looks on all the MM's faces when they have to explain where the hell they got all these shares. HAHA [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
"told me that they had bought what they considered to be the float of FHAL and "didn't know where these shares were coming from"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if this part is true we may be in for a huge short squeeze!!!!

good point my friend..

who else thinks the MMs were minipulating and shorting trying to tank this baby?

Its a nice thought... i would love a run to 2$ today [Big Grin] haha
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Looks like if we get through 1.36 we are off to the races!!!!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
another shake?
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
anyone think this will explode again in the morning? If so this is a good time to buy up
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
*GULP*
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
consistent with last two days...both EOD's ended with a dip (except for yesterdays afterhours buy that created todays gap)
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
**wets pants**
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
close anywhere above 1.20 would be nice, 1.33 and above would be better
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
this is obviously panic selling/manipulation, not caused by the pr, if it was the PR it wouldve started earlier.
On a different note, Im buying a few shares here
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
WATCH WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
WATCH WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!

why? do you see something on the L2s?
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
Ok, quick question. I have 1000 shares in fhal. After the merger and the new stock opens up at 15$ everyone will still have their shares but at 15$ per share. So my 1000 shares would be worth 15000$
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Can someone tell me the rules for a margin account less than 25k?

I have played with FHAL 3 times so far in a 5 day period. If I buy today and sell tomorrow am i considered now a patterned daytrader?
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
ARCA is blocking any move up.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
cass I don't post to much over here more at ihub but you and few others seem to have a good handle on the situation. It's nice reading your posts and a few others also can't name everyone but some good posting over here good job
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
leanlow... if it's true from what the ceo has been saying yes... but... there is speculation
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
As soon as ARCA gets his fat AZZ out of the way we move up!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
IMO..this needs to close at or above yesterday's close...
and this is no where near yesterdays's volume
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
10 you holding this overnight? Big brass........
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
WATCH WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!

It goes down more [Razz]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
we're red tomorrow if no after hour or morning news or no interview... just my opinion...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocktrader22:
Can someone tell me the rules for a margin account less than 25k?

I have played with FHAL 3 times so far in a 5 day period. If I buy today and sell tomorrow am i considered now a patterned daytrader?

you get three free round-trips in a rolling a 5-day period...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
cass I don't post to much over here more at ihub but you and few others seem to have a good handle on the situation. It's nice reading your posts and a few others also can't name everyone but some good posting over here good job

Thanks, I read a lot on IHUB, but never post. My home is at ALLSTOCKS!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
It will close red today. Then if news is good tonight then the short squeeze is on.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Stocktrader22 you're OK as long as you didn't trade FHAL during the same day which is considered a round trip. 4 round trips in a five day period is a no no if your account is less than 25,000.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
we're red tomorrow if no after hour or morning news or no interview... just my opinion...

I'll buy that UNLESS we see another 200k buy after 4 today. Then we will see green and then maybe red shortly there after. [Smile]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
someone make the pain stop...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Buying today and selling tommorrow is NOT a round trip.

It doesn't matter how many times you trade the same ticker as long as you don't do it on the same day more than 3x in 5 days.

So
Monday- Buy FHAL / Tuesday - Sell FHAL (not r/t)

Tuesday - buy more FHAL / Wedn Sell FHAL (not r/t)

Wednesday - buy more FHAL / Same Wedn sell (ONE r/t)
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
someone make the pain stop...

If i only waited to get back i mightve been able to get 1.09-1.10, not 1.29 [Mad] . Talk about pain.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
10 you holding this overnight? Big brass........

Yeah...big brass or dumb a$$...not sure...which!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Prowds, we just had a huge PR. Read it. Go research the company AISS. SHAT YOUR PANTS. Clean up and let us know how you feel. 10, volume is good, PPS is higher than it was yesterday. IMO
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I'm still waiting IGOR. I told ya there'd be a good entry point for us.

Jo
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I'm in overnight. It'll be one restless night
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
There is no pain P it's just patience. People who do not read and do DD are just emotional trading. The value of this company is there and I plan on holding the shares I bought and possibly through the name change. Who knows this thing could go to $30 after all is said and done.

For all the doubters answer this. The news says you get 1 for 1 - so if they post the price in at $15.00 after the name change how do you get that I am going to get less. 15 is 15 on every calculator that I have checked. I even called the head of the mathematician society and he said, "YES" the number 15 has not changed it is still called 15. Learn to read. People are silly.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
This is the most volatile stock I have ever seen. Has anyone seen this much volatility before.
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I sure have not!!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shomethamoney:
There is no pain P it's just patience. People who do not read and do DD are just emotional trading. The value of this company is there and I plan on holding the shares I bought and possibly through the name change. Who knows this thing could go to $30 after all is said and done.

For all the doubters answer this. The news says you get 1 for 1 - so if they post the price in at $15.00 after the name change how do you get that I am going to get less. 15 is 15 on every calculator that I have checked. I even called the head of the mathematician society and he said, "YES" the number 15 has not changed it is still called 15. Learn to read. People are silly.

The news says "who" gets 1 for 1? What I saw yesterday was CVSU shareholders get 1 for 1 .... ???? New PR today?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
And I think the volatility is just going to get worse. It's going to take an iron stomach to play this one.

Jo
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
shomethe$, people dont just starting payin more for a stock because the CEO tells them its worth $15. if people believed the company is worth $15 a share then it would be trading for $15 a share today. the company is not doing anything different in 2 weeks than it is today (at least nothing we are expecting) so why would people pay $15 a share then and not now?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Jo...I just bought more at 1.12...YIKES!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Hi Tex, haven't seen you last night. Here to put doubt in our minds again?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
And I think the volatility is just going to get worse. It's going to take an iron stomach to play this one.

Jo

Naw, it seems easy enough to me. I got in VERY early, took out my investment and now i wait to see if this merger = lottery. [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
well..the gap is now filled...!!!!
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
today was a huge dissapointment. i really feel for those who bought today at 1.57
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
dang, PAIV is takin the same toll . from .24 down to .18 in a short short time..
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
dang, PAIV is takin the same toll . from .24 down to .18 in a short short time..

Yea, and i jumped into that today hoping for another "good pick". I got in at .20 and it seems im closing in red. Oh well, cant hit 60% up EVERY day! [Smile]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
Hi Tex, haven't seen you last night. Here to put doubt in our minds again?

Just got in from work. Doubt? Lol, did you say you're new?
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
if this continues to fall this could close in the red.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Please stay above 1.06...please...!!!!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
well..the gap is now filled...!!!!

that's what I've been asking about, 10--what was it?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yes...c'mon!
 
Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
hell of a team! if they want the price above 15 bucks this is a good start! my guess is there will be many positive developments such as this released in the days running up to the symbol change and more after! this looks better every day IMO!!!

Not!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
It gapped open this morning from the close of yesterday...I am not sure but there might still be a very smal one..from 1.06-1.08...not sure yet...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Unreal, anyone with L2's see that sh&T ARCA pulled the last 20 minutes. Damn they can just do what ever the hell they want. BS!*!* [Mad]
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Tex, no been around awhile. Done a lot of DD on my own and the AISS as I put on here last night is going to huge for this company. So I have no doubt about the $15 price tag. And NO, I have not sold one share. Although I came very close today.
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
This is the most volatile stock I have ever seen. Has anyone seen this much volatility before.

Sure go look at PAIM
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tex..I show the gap from this morning closed!
i have a buy at 1.05...so it should be done...
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
What is AISS?
Is there an interview tonight or not?
Today sucked and now I've gotta go hear the spouse "i told you so" all night.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Here is AISS,

American International Smart Structure ("American International Smart Structure" or the "Company") is a leader in the dynamic and rapidly growing area of advanced aerospace composites. Customers will include the military services of the United States and allied countries, as well as private-sector original equipment manufacturers (OEM) across the world. The Company's proprietary materials and manufacturing processes have both civilian and military applications, including: military aircraft and armaments; homeland security applications; commercial airliners and regional jets; satellites and launch vehicles; high-performance civilian automo­tive and naval applications.
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
1.49 buy just came throught at 4:05
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Here is more:

Major programs in procurement and/or development include:

F/A-22 Raptor, with Lockheed Martin
F-35 Joint-Strike Fighter, with Northrop Grumman and BAE Systems
Intelligent highway sensors, with Oak Ridge-National Laboratories
Radio Frequency (RF) tag sensors for airport security, with Coalescent Technologies
Regional and business jets, with Gulf stream Aerospace
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
on last sale i am showing
buy 16:05:52 1.49 2000 shares
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Mr. Kuczynski and Mr. Eirich will hold the CVSU Board of Director positions in the joint venture corporation American International Smart Structure (AISS).

Got it.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
why am i showing on mine... 1.11 16:05:52?

EDIT: it was 52 not 49 sorry...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
oh yeah... i'm seeing that the gap is filled as well... lets hope for a nice steady climb tomorrow like previous days... no ridiculous gapper...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
I said at the beginning of the day that gaps like that are scary, not going to lie, i sold a little more than half my position today. Without word from Rufus that we get the $15 this will dip for sure. Not bashing bc i still own a good chunk of change in this, but im looking to get back in low, prob a little lower than one might think this will dip. See you all tomorrow
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
its 16:05:52 1.49 2,000 shares... last night someone buys way above ask and again tonight...whats up with that?
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
1.49 buy just came throught at 4:05

Why the heck wouldn't that buy have been made a few minutes earlier at 1.11?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
It gapped open this morning from the close of yesterday...I am not sure but there might still be a very smal one..from 1.06-1.08...not sure yet...

I'm confused: Scottie showing me a low today of .90 . . . [Confused]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
it dipped to .90 during lunch...
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
I said at the beginning of the day that gaps like that are scary, not going to lie, i sold a little more than half my position today. Without word from Rufus that we get the $15 this will dip for sure.

I talked to Rufus about 2:30 and he confirmed it for me. Call him.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
me too and scottie also showing last t&s was 1.11
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
No, what I am saying is that where do you think our shares are going to go. We become CVSU holders. If we have 1 share then that share is worth $15 when the new name is changed. We do not get extra shares CVSU does, but we are the beneficiaries of a new name and a new figure $15.00 a share.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
That gap and trap today was classic. MM's played it perfectly. Gaps that big almost always get filled. I was ready to buy if it broke $1.60.

Tomorrow should be interesting.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah but that is what Rufy is telling us they are worth...not the people you have to sell them to in order to get your $15 per share...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
1.49 buy just came throught at 4:05
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Why the heck wouldn't that buy have been made a few minutes earlier at 1.11?

Manipulation? So that folks without L2's who come home tonight see that pps, put in their sell/buy orders based on that figure?
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
My L2's do show 1.49 2000 16:05:52 (+40.57%)
Looks like a trick to make folks think we had a big green day. But by who? and why? and how? I'm outta here for today. See you all in the AM.
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Crab who said I am selling. I am holding through to the new company. If they price out at $15 I want to see the first week pop and go from there. This isn't a small deal.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
probably just a left over trade from earlier in the day...ya'll are reading to much into it...afterall it was only 2000 shares...not 200,000...
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
[/QUOTE]Manipulation? So that folks without L2's who come home tonight see that pps, put in their sell/buy orders based on that figure? [/QB][/QUOTE]

Agreed!
 
Posted by dustin1101 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
it dipped to .90 during lunch...

Actually it never went that low, must have been a FFT or something...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
it dipped to .90 during lunch...

ahh...thanks mucho [Wink]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Oh...I know that shome...I was just saying that in order for the stock to be valued * $15 for any period of time...people have to be willing to pay that...

if it opens at $15 a share...it can come right back down to $1.11 if no one is buying at that higher price...
 
Posted by dustin1101 on :
 
Hi all, new here. Been over at iHub for a while and decided to join here. Looks like a pretty big group on FHAL. GLTA!
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
shomethe$, im not saying that your shares are going to go anywhere...just saying that the CEO of THE company doesnt set a price on a stock...otherwise all CEO's would be setting $200 figures on their stocks. example..thats like toyota setting the msrp on a corolla at 100K..sure its a expensive car now but what dealership is going to find a sucker to buy it and who's gonna buy it over a lexus at 50k?
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:

Manipulation? So that folks without L2's who come home tonight see that pps, put in their sell/buy orders based on that figure? [/QUOTE]

Agreed! [/QB][/QUOTE]


You dont have to have L2's to see..just pull up all sales or last sales on the stock and it shows it
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Shomethemoney,

I'm with you. The company will be worth $15 and I will be there to see it. People need to stop thinking and enjoy the volatile ride upward.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
it dipped to .90 during lunch...

ahh...thanks mucho [Wink]
there was an out of sequence trade at 9:33 this morning for 2000 shares at .90 ( did not show up on the chart ) the stock was trading at 1.41 at the time, no other trades at that price today, the low was 1.05 there were 6 trades of 500 each at that price. all other trades today were higher
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Welcome aboard Dustin1101...
hope you enjoy it here at allstocks...!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
it dipped to .90 during lunch...

ahh...thanks mucho [Wink]
there was an out of sequence trade at 9:33 this morning for 2000 shares at .90 ( did not show up on the chart ) the stock was trading at 1.41 at the time, no other trades at that price today, the low was 1.05 there were 6 trades of 500 each at that price. all other trades today were higher
whoops thanks for the clarification...i was actually out when it happened so i missed it...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
So there is no interveiw tonight with Rufus... correct?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i don't think anyone really knows...just call and ask?
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Questions regarding the float and all...

If Rufus says they've bought up what they think the float is and they don't know where these shares are coming from, then what will happen when they change the symbol over. I mean, if there are tons of shorts out there, will the shorts just carry this over or is there going to be a huge squeeze there?

I'm hoping that when they change the symbol over and raise the price to $15, they will PR that there's some tiny amount of O/S and float. This and some great audited financials. Then, maybe it will stay at or above the $15. If not, I'm afraid of the amount of sales at $15 that will be entered.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
changing the cusip leaves any shorts with a problem...

I'm still not clear how they will "raise the price to $15"--do you understand that part?
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
Here is some info for the people who were confused about r/t's Questions came up a few pages back.

A day trade occurs when you buy and sell (or sell and buy) the same stock or option position during the same trading day. A trading day includes all pre-market, normal trading hours, and extended session hours. Selling a position held overnight and reacquiring the position the following day is not considered a day trade.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
it dipped to .90 during lunch...

ahh...thanks mucho [Wink]
there was an out of sequence trade at 9:33 this morning for 2000 shares at .90 ( did not show up on the chart ) the stock was trading at 1.41 at the time, no other trades at that price today, the low was 1.05 there were 6 trades of 500 each at that price. all other trades today were higher
whoops thanks for the clarification...i was actually out when it happened so i missed it...
OK, thanks--makes better sense, now...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
fry: "People need to stop thinking . . ."

lol...
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Questions regarding the float and all...

If Rufus says they've bought up what they think the float is and they don't know where these shares are coming from, then what will happen when they change the symbol over. I mean, if there are tons of shorts out there, will the shorts just carry this over or is there going to be a huge squeeze there?

I'm hoping that when they change the symbol over and raise the price to $15, they will PR that there's some tiny amount of O/S and float. This and some great audited financials. Then, maybe it will stay at or above the $15. If not, I'm afraid of the amount of sales at $15 that will be entered.

Or simply, someone is not telling the truth? If the float was "bought up by Rufus" do you think the pps should be higher that just over a buck?

And now, they won't release float numbers?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
just got off phone with rufus...

the interview is on tonight... he said details will be on the front page of cvsu's website.
http://www.waatle.com/ for those that don't know it... he said they suspect/thought they bought up "all of the float" (which i don't think is true) he said there are 64 million and half of those are restriced... so 34 million and he expects that most of it is bought... the 10k with audited financials will be release first of week. he said monday or tuesday. he said tuesday is the most likely date... Also a PR will be released tomorrow but... i don't think it will do much. he made it sound like it's just going to be like the one today where they are going to announce more ppl they hired. I hope this helps some of you. and if you have any questions call. i called two times within 5 min and i got a hold of him.

NOTE: the interview is a Q/A for him. he is unsure how it will work because he has never had one like this before... poor guy. another blindside... but thats all i know as of right now...
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I'm assuming they will treat the new symbol much like a company would IPO their stock. With an IPO, a price is usually set and then the stock will trade from there either up or down. The starting price has nothing to do with where it will go from there though. Like others have said, there will need to be something that will justify it to be there if it is to stay for any length of time.

Livin...good point. I think we're all still somewhat skeptical of the whole thing, but I still have some faith.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
No details of a Q/A as of yet. I wonder when they'll get around to putting it up there?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Milliam writes: "I'm assuming they will treat the new symbol much like a company would IPO their stock. "

Really...wow--never heard of such a thing. Is this something you've seen happen before?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Here is what Rufus told me about the price adjustment:

The Merger qualifies as a tax-free reorganization under Section 368 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended, meaning that as the Reorganized Holdings Corporation begins to trade it has an option to adjust the market (trading price) to reflect the new Reorganized Holdings Corporations audited financials as it reflects on the per share book value.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
So according to Rufy&Gang(more importantly with audited financials backing them) the per share book value is going to be $15.00?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Good job Doniboy, thought you might have got eaten by a bear or something, haven't heard much from you today! [Wink]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I had meetings all day Cass, but I still have just as many shares as yesterday. All the shorts are coming out in force to bash over on Ihub. Especially now since we only made 4.72%...lol. If I had a stock to make that much every day I would retire.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
why didn't they just explain that in the first place instead of "it will"... they really should release that in a PR tomorrow or tonight... my eyes would be glowing green;)

hows camping doni... or how was it?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Here is what Rufus told me about the price adjustment:

The Merger qualifies as a tax-free reorganization under Section 368 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended, meaning that as the Reorganized Holdings Corporation begins to trade it has an option to adjust the market (trading price) to reflect the new Reorganized Holdings Corporations audited financials as it reflects on the per share book value.

great....thanks

opens a whole new line of inquiry...

don't know much about these things, but it does seem to limited to specific entities:

quote:
Section 1.351-1(c)(1) states that a transfer to an investment company
will occur when (i) the transfer results in diversification of the
transferors' interests and (ii) the transferee is a Regulated Investment
Company (RIC), Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT), or a corporation more than
80 percent of the value of whose assets (excluding cash and non-convertible
debt obligations) are readily marketable stocks or securities. Section 1.351-
1(c)(5) provides that a transfer ordinarily results in the diversification of
the transferors' interests if two or more persons transfer nonidentical assets
to a corporation in the exchange.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-regs/co-19-95.txt

have no idea whether their bonds would qualify as "readily marketable," but would like surely like to understand the mechanism of adjusting "market (trading price)."
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
the bonds? who cares LOL pump the crap out of it
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
rufus says yes they are readily marketable... they're even loaded into.................... couldn't understand him. he's in a hurry trying to get into the interview site. he's having a problem with it haha. hopefully he gets in. he said he was about to call them to figure it out
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Dang Prowds you trying to get put on Rufus's do not call list! HAAAA [Wink]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
P Rowds, camping sucked. I was on my laptop, on a crappy WIFI connection that shut off every ten minutes next to several screaming children when I saw the stock jet into the .60's for the first time. I immediately hopped in the car and told the wife to meet me at home (she had her car too). She wasn't mad because I made her some dough [Smile]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha... na cass, i'm tryin to get on his speed dial;) gimmie all the latest info... haha, i dunno why no one else tries to talk to the guy.

haha, doni... how long you camp for? bet it was hot as hell too.... nothing worse than listening to screaming children and sweating your ace off:)
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
here's a link to Section 368

http://fourmilab.ch/uscode/26usc/www/t26-A-1-C-III-D-368.html
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
haha... na cass, i'm tryin to get on his speed dial;) gimmie all the latest info... haha, i dunno why no one else tries to talk to the guy.

haha, doni... how long you camp for? bet it was hot as hell too.... nothing worse than listening to screaming children and sweating your ace off:)

Hey Rowd, i only needed to call once...ya know so I would get that warm fuzzy feeling. Now i dont have to cuz youre so nice, and apparently persistent. [Smile]
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
its 16:05:52 1.49 2,000 shares... last night someone buys way above ask and again tonight...whats up with that?

This is my idea why those late high trades went through the past two days.

If you read the form 8k and under the definitions part look at the average closing price,"...20 trading day period ending 3 business days prior to the closing date as reported in the Wall Street Journal."

This will be the price everyone is asking about,if it's under $15 they have 3 options.Hopefully they won't choose option A, to keep it at that price.

I couldn't find the symbol and closing price in either the printed or online versions of the WSJ.

Just a thought,correct me if I'm wrong. GLTA
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I had a funny thought, tell me if this sounds at all familiar to you all.

I feel like i have a lotto ticket in my hand, i already matched 5 numbers and the announcer says "And we will tell you that 6th number NEXT WEEK!"
 
Posted by dustin1101 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Questions regarding the float and all...

If Rufus says they've bought up what they think the float is and they don't know where these shares are coming from, then what will happen when they change the symbol over. I mean, if there are tons of shorts out there, will the shorts just carry this over or is there going to be a huge squeeze there?

I'm hoping that when they change the symbol over and raise the price to $15, they will PR that there's some tiny amount of O/S and float. This and some great audited financials. Then, maybe it will stay at or above the $15. If not, I'm afraid of the amount of sales at $15 that will be entered.

Or simply, someone is not telling the truth? If the float was "bought up by Rufus" do you think the pps should be higher that just over a buck?

And now, they won't release float numbers?

From iHub regarding the float:

RonnieD -- "keep in mind.. there could be only 5 million left in the float, but as long as buys and sells remain roughly equal it will not explode.. but when the buying over selling ratio goes heavily positive, the scramble for the remaining shares will easily drive this 3+.. that's why this stock is on the precipice of nose-bleed level appreciation."

In my opinion, most of the selling we saw today was MM shorting. A few MMs were definitely doing a lot of selling today, in particular VIEW, and it looked like someone through ARCA perhaps. They did their best to stall every run, and succeeded. NITE getting stuck at $1.50, and then disappearing, on the open didn't help either. I believe they have begun to cover, however, and we should see it run up tomorrow if everything from the interview sounds good. Happy Trading! [Smile]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha, not a problem catia:D

good theory voodoo... very possible but i confirmed with rufus numberous times that the ticker symbol won't change till the 28-1... he said the hold period would probably only last a day...

ummmmmm..... oh, does anyone have a username for traders corner? my damn log in didn't send me an activation key to my e-mail so i don't think i'm gonna be able to listen to this interview. if the option is available someone should clarify so all can here that there won't be a split and they should release a PR explaining how they can open at that price. I really don't want to call again tonight:D
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Here is what Rufus told me about the price adjustment:

The Merger qualifies as a tax-free reorganization under Section 368 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended, meaning that as the Reorganized Holdings Corporation begins to trade it has an option to adjust the market (trading price) to reflect the new Reorganized Holdings Corporations audited financials as it reflects on the per share book value.

great....thanks

opens a whole new line of inquiry...

don't know much about these things, but it does seem to limited to specific entities:

quote:
Section 1.351-1(c)(1) states that a transfer to an investment company
will occur when (i) the transfer results in diversification of the
transferors' interests and (ii) the transferee is a Regulated Investment
Company (RIC), Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT), or a corporation more than
80 percent of the value of whose assets (excluding cash and non-convertible
debt obligations) are readily marketable stocks or securities. Section 1.351-
1(c)(5) provides that a transfer ordinarily results in the diversification of
the transferors' interests if two or more persons transfer nonidentical assets
to a corporation in the exchange.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-regs/co-19-95.txt

have no idea whether their bonds would qualify as "readily marketable," but would like surely like to understand the mechanism of adjusting "market (trading price)."

So Tex..."he" can "regulate" the price...because "CVSU" has purchased FHAL and FHAL is going through a "name" change to CSVU and it is "being reorginized" so this quote from above applies: "...or a corporation more than
80 percent of the value of whose assets (excluding cash and non-convertible
debt obligations) are readily marketable stocks or securities."

Does anyone else get the same?
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
haha, not a problem catia:D

good theory voodoo... very possible but i confirmed with rufus numberous times that the ticker symbol won't change till the 28-1... he said the hold period would probably only last a day...

ummmmmm..... oh, does anyone have a username for traders corner? my damn log in didn't send me an activation key to my e-mail so i don't think i'm gonna be able to listen to this interview. if the option is available someone should clarify so all can here that there won't be a split and they should release a PR explaining how they can open at that price. I really don't want to call again tonight:D

My point is that we must be in the "20 day period" although the closing date has not been disclosed yet,or I'm missing it.

I was looking for the FHAL symbol in the WSJ.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I am in the chat room for the interview. Looks like there will be room for 400 people. In the first room you can see and hear what is happeing and in the second room you will only be able to hear the interview.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
here's a link to info on Corporate Shells and Reverse Mergers. good info - especially the last section

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geuqlX779ER3AAJkZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE3MTI3dGMxBGNvbG8D ZQRsA1dTMQRwb3MDMwRzZWMDc3IEdnRpZANGNjY1XzExNA--/SIG=11r7vnfr6/EXP=1153515735/** http%3a//www.edgar-filing.com/reverse.htm
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
The shorts are starting their bash campaign early tonight over on Ihub....funny stuff.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
written by the guy setting up the interview:

For all you guys wanting to join in the Traders Corner CEO interview of Rufus Harris tonight, the room's name is Traders Corner Live and the second room is Traders Corner Live 2. You can find it buy going to Paltalk .com, Business / Finance then go to Investments. It will be listed there. You will have to download the Paltalk program if you do not have it.

Traders Corner Live 2 will only be a piped room. You will only be able to hear the interview. Any text typed in there I will not be able to see so Head for Traders Corner Live first. If it's full you will have to sign in Traders Corner Live 2.

NO PASSWORD is required but it is limited to only 200 so get there early. The room will open at 7:30 P.M. CST.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I still haven't gotten my activation key for traders corner.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I don't think you need it Doniboy. All it has in there is the info I posted above.

I do think you might have to sign up or download Paltalk.

Jo
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea, just download paltalk and youre in
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
Yeah, i am in the room, i had to download paltalk and then create a username does not take long
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Cat or Jo...you guys listening?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by leanlow06:
Yeah, i am in the room, i had to download paltalk and then create a username does not take long

Take good notes and let us know OK?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
not yet, I'm still downloading the software. I may have to wait until hubby falls asleep. LOL!

He can't know how much I've lost so far.

[Smile]
JO
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Heh im giddy with anticipation
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Cat or Jo...you guys listening?

Yea im listening
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Jo and Cat..you guys are too much!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
P Rowds and myself are in there right now. The room is filling up fast. I think there is like 103 already. Will report as much as possible while he is talking.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Cat or Jo...you guys listening?

Yea im listening
Smarty...can you take notes and post what is being said here? LOL
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks fryyguyy
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Jo and Cat..you guys are too much!

Haha, me? Noooooo, not me. [Smile]
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
How'd you create a log in name. Everytime I hit "New user start here" it keeps taking me to the software download.

Jo
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Jo, I downloaded the software first then went to the room. Or you can open your Paltalk messenger and click on the chat room tab.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Did you create a user to get the download? If so enter that name...i think?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
You don't need a log in.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hey doni... on the traders corner make sure you check your bulk mail... otherwise keep hitting resend activation key... but as everyone else said... you don't need a traders corner account. hope you all get in there. i'll try to put updates as well as everyone else will throughout the interview... it'll be hard tho with the girl coming home:D she doesn't like me on the computer when she gets home from work haha... might have to make a sacrifice tonight... money on the line;)
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey mnvestor, are you listening to the meeting this evening?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Okay, I must be an idiot. I've downloaded the software, I see the room, but when I click on the room name, I don't get a way to enter.

Jo
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
ok I got paltalk, what room is it?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
from the site or on the paltalk messenger jo?

EDIT: 125 ppl so far...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I can't find it in Paltalk!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
doni its the "traders corner live" chat room
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
From the site.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
open your paltalk messenger and on my front menu it is the first room "current top rooms" then "traders corner live" is the first one

EDIT: on the messenger you have to click the chat rooms tab obviously;)
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
What times (eastern) does Rufus come on?
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I have an on-line chat for a course that I am taking starting in a half hour so I can't join the Rufus interview - PLEASE post good notes.. I'll be back later to read up on all the good news
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
That dude was funny - lmao
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
rufus comes on.... supposedly now
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
1 more hour - 8:00 CST
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
oh my bad...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Try as I might, I can't get in there. I've downloaded the software, but for some reason it doesn't run for me. When I can see 147 listed as being in the chatroom, but there's no button for me to click to get in. When I hit "chat" it keeps wanting me to download the software again!

Guess I wont be listning, but I'll be reading.

Jo

Edited to add:

Tried rebooting, still didn't work, but I went on a different computer and got it to work there. thanks!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
reboot?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I just got booted????????
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I went to pick up my son and when I returned it said that I was booted for 24 hours....
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
jo... don't go through the website... use the paltalk messenger chat function...
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I went to pick up my son and when I returned it said that I was booted for 24 hours....

said your microphone was stuck on
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
About this Pal-talk interview....How do we know this is the real CEO and not someone pretending.

Buy the way, if this is fake, it would be the best pump ever. LoL
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
batman, i'm sure i will recognize his voice... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
G-damnit, my microphone is muted.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Can someone ask them to let me back in?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Gauranteed 17 spin off companies and shares in these companies.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LMAO...being "outside" and reading your posts and knowing what you guys are trying to do is funny as heck...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Send us a link http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/757563/000129707706000046/fhaul8-kmergers igned.htm from Rufus and here is another link that defines the reorganization http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-01-24.pdf from Rufus. I'm doing this as he is talking so forgive.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Send us a link http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/757563/000129707706000046/fhaul8-kmergers igned.htm from Rufus and here is another link that defines the reorganization http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-01-24.pdf from Rufus. I'm doing this as he is talking so forgive. Goto 2.6 there is three options (A,B,C) REad the first sentence of 2.6
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I couldn't hear him. I could here the moderators fine before the chat started then nothing.

It was funny being in there and seeing people typing stuff like "Wow!" "that sounds good" and not knowing what the heck they were hearing.

I'm going to reboot my computer and try again.

Jo
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
LMAO...being "outside" and reading your posts and knowing what you guys are trying to do is funny as heck...

so clue me in...I'm too tired to follow all that...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I'm typing with a 4 month old on my lap. Option B is the buyout if it is $1 then they will offer us $14. Who ever hold pre/post merger have this option. However, he said that he is going to do option c.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
book value is 7.21. We can start trading at 7.21 or set it at 3x the book. Will halt trading on it merges and come out the next day and a new symbol and at $15 a share.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Merger is complete according to SEC
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
LMAO...being "outside" and reading your posts and knowing what you guys are trying to do is funny as heck...

so clue me in...I'm too tired to follow all that...
Tex...a few of the posters are listening in on a live chat that is with the CEO of FHAL...Rufas...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Option B is available if the money that the corporation pays out is not hurting the company. It will have to be approved by the board of Directors.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
I'm typing with a 4 month old on my lap. Option B is the buyout if it is $1 then they will offer us $14. Who ever hold pre/post merger have this option. However, he said that he is going to do option c.

If the merger is complete and this option is for the holders that had FHAL BEFORE the merger..then what is the date..."we" that just got in probably won't get it...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
completion of option c more than likely it's what they're going to do. halts when symbol change and be reopened after 10k at 15$$$$...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
FHAL is being reorged and CVSU is being absorbed by FHAL and the value will be set at $15.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
tex, dr bill on ihub posted the interview wouldnt happen and so I posted this on the FHAL thread under Hot Stocks, but apparently its going to happen after all (and is apparently on right now), I apologize if I caused any confusion.

fryyguyy and P Rowds, thanks for keeping us posted!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
we have a choice to vote but the company chooses overall what option to take...
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
I'm typing with a 4 month old on my lap. Option B is the buyout if it is $1 then they will offer us $14. Who ever hold pre/post merger have this option. However, he said that he is going to do option c.

If the merger is complete and this option is for the holders that had FHAL BEFORE the merger..then what is the date..."we" that just got in probably won't get it...
I was thinking the same thing.Is there a "date."
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
IF on the day the price is set to $15 on the opening day then it will either go up or down on what the market thinks the value will be of our company.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Oh...so let's roll the dice...LOL
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
CVSU has $500 million in the bank.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
pre/post merger >>>>>>>>> POST MERGER - thats us!!>>>>>>>>> Option B is the buyout if it is $1 then they will offer us $14. Who ever hold pre/post merger have this option. However, he said that he is going to do option c.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
CVSU has $500 million in the bank.

NIIIIICE - Wish I did
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
Rufus just said that we are not guarenteed the 15 per share if the market can't support it.... Also Rufus claims that the float is gone.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
this guy who is moderating is an idiot. The current float is a hard question to answer and Rufus says that there should NOT be a Float out there. We have traded over 100 million in the last week and he believes that there is many shorters out there.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
He said the float should be dried up now
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
NU2This, that is for option B and the price will be set at $15 and the market on the day it starts trading will determine the price. He expects it to go up on the first day.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
So we don't gain anthing with option c, that sucks.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nu2This:
Rufus just said that we are not guarenteed the 15 per share if the market can't support it.... Also Rufus claims that the float is gone.

He told me on the phone today that it WAS a guarantee
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
if this has been massively shorted the shorts will have to cover BEFORE the symbol change!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
They used a trust to by up the float. The float will be held in the treasury and if needed at a future time then they may release them. The company is fully funded and will not need any dilution to fund operations.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
LMAO...being "outside" and reading your posts and knowing what you guys are trying to do is funny as heck...

so clue me in...I'm too tired to follow all that...
Tex...a few of the posters are listening in on a live chat that is with the CEO of FHAL...Rufas...
I know that, shug...lol, was hoping for a synospis...
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
quote:
Originally posted by Nu2This:
Rufus just said that we are not guarenteed the 15 per share if the market can't support it.... Also Rufus claims that the float is gone.

He told me on the phone today that it WAS a guarantee
That is how I understood it, I am sure someone else sees it a differnet way. It sure sounded like that.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
TEX...LMAO...OK..we'll get one..when it is done...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
The 10K will be out. Tuesday is the goal but Thursday will be the latest. The 10SB will be filed right after the first 10K filing.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
It must be hard to listen and try to translate what he is saying to post - thanks to you all and keep it comin'
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nu2This:
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
quote:
Originally posted by Nu2This:
Rufus just said that we are not guarenteed the 15 per share if the market can't support it.... Also Rufus claims that the float is gone.

He told me on the phone today that it WAS a guarantee
That is how I understood it, I am sure someone else sees it a differnet way. It sure sounded like that.
technically it is gauranteed, but by the MM's b/c they'd have to cover the shorts.. since the float is dried up.. so we need to hold til appropriate price, could trigger a nice squeeze
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
Worst case Scenario as per Mr. Rufus for FHAL stockholds would be to sell for less than $15.00
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Picure it as an IPO and we have the shares up front. It is his job to make sure that the share price stays at the $15 or more. The have huge contracts sitting on the table. They have bonds from third world countries to add to the list. He feels that $15 is undervalued.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nu2This:
Worst case Scenario as per Mr. Rufus for FHAL stockholds would be to sell for less than $15.00

no kidding! but how mutch less? thats the question!! LOL!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
uh.. less than $15?? i mean .0001 is less than $15
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by Nu2This:
Worst case Scenario as per Mr. Rufus for FHAL stockholds would be to sell for less than $15.00

no kidding! but how mutch less? thats the question!! LOL!
I would love to know that.....
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
RUFUS doesn't know that.. no one knows that til after the fact.. not helping..
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
RUFUS doesn't know that.. no one knows that til after the fact.. not helping..

I am only typing what I hear!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
yea, i wasn't pointing at u.. just annoyed with his lack of detail
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
BBAN association. It was an assett 100 million comany. He believes the MMs that were involved in BBAN or probably involved here trying to hold down the price. It was a bad choice on his part. He tried to terminate them but they outlasted the company funds. He learned from it now is moving on and it is completely behind him.
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
yea, i wasn't pointing at u.. just annoyed with his lack of detail

this chat room is a mess....it's hard to get any real answers straight...A lot of people are asking about a R/S hopefully he address that soon.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
lostone,

Again the share price will be set at $15 on the day it starts trading. You can then sell and get out at whatever the price is at that point or you can stay and see what happens with the price.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
if the float is gone then we are all trading on short shares! I would think they must be covered before the symbol change in case this does hold at or over 15 bucks!! if there are 30/40/50 million short shares out this should explode when the cover!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
really appreciate this guys.. good initiative on your part.. thanx again..
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
Rufus address he R/S question: And the answer is... Couldn't do a R/S if they wanted to he said the 8k does not allow for that.

Post merger: no r/s and was talking about a Forward split....
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
There will be NO R/S. They cannot go against what is in the 8-K. He has been talking about a Forward split after the new company starts trading.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Whoah he said NO r/s but actually wouldnt mind a f/s!
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
NO R/S is the best news we have heard yet....
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
it could go up or down, my guess is down since it's the same principle as the "gap up", people see a big profit and take it. The question is how fast will it fall from $15... it can open premarket at $15 and "gap down" all the way to $10 and fall like a rock. All things that can happen unfortunately. Unless we get killer PRs!!

I'm buying shares tomorrow, I don't believe it would fall THAT hard that it would touch our current stock price. Or maybe I'll just buy shares and ride it till the trading becomes halted for the conversion (that could be a fun ride [Big Grin] )
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
He has 2 press releases to put out if he could on each one of the 17 subs per day. the lottery system is going great. If it works in Cal, Ohio and some others then the rest of the U.S. will join up.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Dang, guess it would've been good if my 1.09 order had filled.

Jo
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
He owns 9 mil of CVSU
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
Rufus says he owns 9 million shares of CVSU, he is not allowes to own any of FHAL
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
He has not allowed to purchase in FHAL or CVSU until merger is complete.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
he has 9 mil shares of cvsu but can not buy fhal at this time
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
question, if float is gone.. and seems like there are a lot of short shares, how will MM's able to cover before the merger without company selling?? and can the company sell before merger? so what kind of shares are we holding? blank shares? what's the point of MM's buying back blank shares anyway, unless they have a deal with the company, which would by pass us.. and we don't get squat
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
pause in the action
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
you guys... they will post this recording on the website... you can download it and listen to it yourself...
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
He has not allowed to purchase in FHAL or CVSU until merger is complete.

I thought it was complete
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
i have heard nothing negative so far.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
How would a foward split work and affect us?
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
How would a foward split work and affect us?

He said the forward split was just talk and didn't elaborate on it.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
During the time the merger is being completed to the end of July when it is officially trading under a new name. Sorry, should have been clearer. He owned CVSU before the merger started. The merger is done but have to wait until the end of the month.
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
Merger is complete according to SEC

It is?
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
During the time the merger is being completed to the end of July when it is officially trading under a new name. Sorry, should have been clearer. He owned CVSU before the merger started. The merger is done but have to wait until the end of the month.

Sorry I'm too slow
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Is the Amazon deal viable?

It is one of the deciding factors to get FHAL. The deal isn't really that good. Not CVSU but from the Amazon side of the house.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Did I hear right. 3.5 billion in assets and 500 million in bank.
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
Did I hear right. 3.5 billion in assets and 500 million in bank.

That is what I heard, but it wasn't clear. I will have to listen to the recording again.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
Is the Amazon deal viable?

It is one of the deciding factors to get FHAL. The deal isn't really that good. Not CVSU but from the Amazon side of the house.

Seems Amazon deal wasnt what it was supposed to be afterall
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
They were prepairing to jump to NASDAQ using CVSU then ran into FHAL. The never intended to trade on pinks or bulletin board.
 
Posted by STOCKMOVER on :
 
Question from chat:

"What is the worse case scenario for current FHAL holders?"

Rufus: "That you sell for less than $15 a share."


Real deal here folks.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
you guys... they will post this recording on the website... you can download it and listen to it yourself...

that's good news--good post, PR
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
oops you are reprting not asking LOL. Oops =)
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Who will buy an IPo at 15 when you can buy the stock at 1.5 right now.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
QUICK NOTES ON INTERVIEW

1- "They have bought up over 100k shares on the market and if there are shorts it will have to be covered before the merger is complete" "short squeeze"

They used a trust to by up the float. The float will be held in the treasury and if needed at a future time then they may release them. The company is fully funded and will not need any dilution to fund operations

2- They will set the pps at 15.00 on the first day of trading and if the market supports it then that is the price "we" get...

3- Picure it as an IPO and we have the shares up front. It is his job to make sure that the share price stays at the $15 or more. The have huge contracts sitting on the table. They have bonds from third world countries to add to the list. He feels that $15 is undervalued

4-No r/s but perhaps a forward split after the merger is complete (8K will not allow them to do a r/s or any change in share structure until after the merger.

5-Rufas owns 9m of CVSU and none of FHAL

6- 3.5 billion in assets and 500 million in bank

you can hear this interview on by going to the CVSU website..
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
S-4 is filed and has 50 million set asside for R&D for each of those projects.

Georgia Aerospace, he holds major patents Dr. Someone and manufacturer many contracts including the new space shuttle. 78 patents in all.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
how will MM's cover float before merger if all dried up?? are they gonna sue the MM's or work a deal under the table?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
The board would have like to have an evaluation in three months of $100 a share after trading starts. "I think my heart just stoped"

AISS is believed to be a $60 stock and we would hold shares in that company.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
They may be offering a dividends as well as F/S. He is only 38yrs old.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
They may be offering a dividends as well as F/S. He is only 38yrs old.

Ask him if he'll marry me?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
online lottery by the end of the year will be in Ohio, Georgia, california, and I think another state where you can go online an buy your lottery tickets instead of going to gas stations. Will put a machine inside of store to pay cash. Punch your numbers on the screen and not have to deal with people. No human errors. Looking to be in 42 states with on lottery running for those 42 states.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
ROFL
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
This lottery thing is the most bizzare thing I have ever heard.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Sh&&, baby just puked on me. Time out.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I think fryyguyy deserve some stars for posting while puked on.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I'm signing off - good nite all
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
online lottery by the end of the year will be in Ohio, Georgia, california, and I think another state where you can go online an buy your lottery tickets instead of going to gas stations. Will put a machine inside of store to pay cash. Punch your numbers on the screen and not have to deal with people. No human errors. Looking to be in 42 states with on lottery running for those 42 states.

lol, why downsize? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
so it's over?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Ok, ARCA has been sitting on the ASK. He says good for them.
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
so it's over?

still going on..
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
He isn't going to PR the float, because it won't stop them from shorting the stock.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
Ask him if shares will be restricted for us where we cant sell the day it opens at $15
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
How will our shares look if we bought at $1 next friday.

I would buy every damN share I could until next friday. He would be buying. Institutions will be buying them even if everyone would sell. God, I'm shaking now.
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
Rufus said not to be concerned for anyone who bought at 1.00, given the information that he has.
He says to just sit back and enjoy.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
He said stop flipping for .10 and let it go and get $10
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
QUICK NOTES ON INTERVIEW

1- "They have bought up over 100k shares on the market and if there are shorts it will have to be covered before the merger is complete" "short squeeze"

They used a trust to by up the float. The float will be held in the treasury and if needed at a future time then they may release them. The company is fully funded and will not need any dilution to fund operations

2- They will set the pps at 15.00 on the first day of trading and if the market supports it then that is the price "we" get...

3- Picure it as an IPO and we have the shares up front. It is his job to make sure that the share price stays at the $15 or more. The have huge contracts sitting on the table. They have bonds from third world countries to add to the list. He feels that $15 is undervalued

4-No r/s but perhaps a forward split after the merger is complete (8K will not allow them to do a r/s or any change in share structure until after the merger.

5-Rufas owns 9m of CVSU and none of FHAL

6- 3.5 billion in assets and 500 million in bank

7- S-4 is filed and 50 million set aside for each "project"

8- "We" would hold shares of AISS that is currently valued at $60/share. The board would like to have a value of 100/share within 3 months

9- the online lottery will be available in Ohio, Georgia and California (maybe another) by end of the year.

10- Fryyguyy just got puked on...time out
[Big Grin]

You can hear this interview by going to the CVSU website..

[ July 20, 2006, 22:20: Message edited by: 10of13 ]
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
You can trade with no restrictions on the day it starts trading.
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
Rufus says: MERGER IS COMPLETE it cannot be reversed.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
You can trade with no restrictions on the day it starts trading.

Did he quote this?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
QUICK NOTES ON INTERVIEW

1- "They have bought up over 100k shares on the market and if there are shorts it will have to be covered before the merger is complete" "short squeeze"

They used a trust to by up the float. The float will be held in the treasury and if needed at a future time then they may release them. The company is fully funded and will not need any dilution to fund operations

2- They will set the pps at 15.00 on the first day of trading and if the market supports it then that is the price "we" get...

3- Picure it as an IPO and we have the shares up front. It is his job to make sure that the share price stays at the $15 or more. The have huge contracts sitting on the table. They have bonds from third world countries to add to the list. He feels that $15 is undervalued

4-No r/s but perhaps a forward split after the merger is complete (8K will not allow them to do a r/s or any change in share structure until after the merger.

5-Rufas owns 9m of CVSU and none of FHAL

6- 3.5 billion in assets and 500 million in bank

7- S-4 is filed and 50 million set aside for each "project"

8- "We" would hold shares of AISS that is currently valued at $600/share. The board would like to have a value of 100/share within 3 months

9- the online lottery will be available in Ohio, Georgia and California (maybe another) by end of the year.

10- Fryyguyy just got puked on...time out
[Big Grin]

You can hear this interview by going to the CVSU website..

One last note...Rufas is 38 and I am going to marry him...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Merger is done. Just took sometime to audit FHAL financials. Worse case scenerio is selling FHAL under the $15, well how low?

His answer is to pay for the phone bill or something stupid like that.

YOu will have somewhere 26% of the insiders have the shares locked up.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
Merger is done. Just took sometime to audit FHAL financials. Worse case scenerio is selling FHAL under the $15, well how low?

His answer is to pay for the phone bill or something stupid like that.

YOu will have somewhere 26% of the insiders have the shares locked up.

speak english please...wtf did you just say? lol
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
Merger is done. Just took sometime to audit FHAL financials. Worse case scenerio is selling FHAL under the $15, well how low?

His answer is to pay for the phone bill or something stupid like that.

YOu will have somewhere 26% of the insiders have the shares locked up.

the fact that 26% of the shares locked up is why he said the 15 value looks so good
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
10, i thought the book value for AISS is $60 not 600
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
so big money tomorrow? or near the end of merger?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Owners of CVSU were not happy about losing money going from CVSU to FHAL. But they know what they have and will work hard.

Looking at 5 other companies to merge with and put some of their spin offs in that spot.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think I'm going to cry tears of JOY!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
There is not a specific date yet between the 28-1 because they don't want to have certain people loading up. It will take a piece of paper and 24 hrs to set the date.

Have traded almost 200% of the float adn he recommends calling for Certs to protect yourself.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Certified financials for FHAL was on there website but took it down because of bashers and it will now be in the 10-k.

Defense contracts: Georgia Aerospace has subcontracts on these contracts.

Will maintain $15 unless we all at the sametime sell.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Has potentiall an additoinal 3.5 Billion in contracts in bonds and Euro Bonds waiting til after the merger. This is how they get their $100 stock value.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
The first press release will be $50 goes here, 20 Million goes here, millions go here. After the merger is complete. God, I'm sweating now.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Moving to NASDAQ is projected to be 50-60 days after merger and volume has to be maintained since on the OTCBB.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, ive heard all that ive needed to hear and will read the rest later. I havent slept much in a few days so im gonna trrrrrrrrrrrrrry tonight.

Big day tomorrow im thinking. GLTA!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
UCC note is backed buy a lawsuit in Seatle, Washington. It pays good interest.

Bonds, urclear system and view them that way.

(confused me on this subject, sorry)
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
but we still got some more days til merger.. man, i hope the MM's don't give us hell.. and weak hands will drive us down
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
If you have 1,000,000 say it is one percent. You will then get one percent of each spin off. Each spin off will have 60,000,000 O/S. We have at least 14 spin offs coming over the next 2 years.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
euro clear ie euro credits (bourse?)
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
UCC note is backed buy a lawsuit in Seatle, Washington. It pays good interest.

Bonds, urclear system and view them that way.

(confused me on this subject, sorry)


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
QUICK NOTES ON INTERVIEW

1- "They have bought up over 100k shares on the market and if there are shorts it will have to be covered before the merger is complete" "short squeeze"

They used a trust to by up the float. The float will be held in the treasury and if needed at a future time then they may release them. The company is fully funded and will not need any dilution to fund operations

2- They will set the pps at 15.00 on the first day of trading and if the market supports it then that is the price "we" get...

3- Picure it as an IPO and we have the shares up front. It is his job to make sure that the share price stays at the $15 or more. The have huge contracts sitting on the table. They have bonds from third world countries to add to the list. He feels that $15 is undervalued

4-No r/s but perhaps a forward split after the merger is complete (8K will not allow them to do a r/s or any change in share structure until after the merger.

5-Rufas owns 9m of CVSU and none of FHAL

6- 3.5 billion in assets and 500 million in bank

7- S-4 is filed and 50 million set aside for each "project"

8- "We" would hold shares of AISS that is currently valued at $60/share. The board would like to have a value of 100/share within 3 months

9- the online lottery will be available in Ohio, Georgia and California (maybe another) by end of the year.

10- Fryyguyy just got puked on...time out
[Big Grin]
11- Moving to NASDAQ 50-60 after merger complete and volume stable


most notes posted by Fryyguyy and reposted by MRS. RUFAS...

You can hear this interview by going to the CVSU website..


 
Posted by skip on :
 
I think my "freak out and buy" notion will continue tomorrow...wish I would have held onto my shares when I was saying that!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
theyve chosen to wait til the 10K is out to start "pressing" (releasing PRs)

he says they havent sought out press cuz if they wait 60% of the questions will be answered.

~BB
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by skip:
I think my "freak out and buy" notion will continue tomorrow...wish I would have held onto my shares when I was saying that!

yes skip..time to freak out and buy!!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
money is coming from an "organized trust set up w an institution" for the buyback.

fyi.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
If you have certificates and want to sell after the merger what do you do?

You would have to put them back in the system before you can trade. This will take some time.

He is just trying to protect us.

He is trying to kill the shorters in this situation.
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
This has got to be a scam...but hell I'm all in [Smile]
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
At completion of Merger there will only be 111 million and will totally screw shorts. Will chech elbows and "something" to see who the share holders are. S-4 will include all share holders and will be sent to SEC.
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
If they are going to give 15$ for all the shareholders ...wont that leave them with nothing ?

Seriously, why would somebody do that...and what kind of shareholders do u think would approve that in any meeting... ?

If this such a open news...people should flood to buy with whatever they can sell and buy this if this is goin to the roof...

Something could be smokin...here...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
There was a guy in there that tried to post this and they bounced him out.

quote:
Noobonamission: Hello My name is Alex from www.***********.com a daytrading group which was hired by a third party to add massive buying pressure into this stock. Our contract ends as of today and any buying volume is that from the public
then I rephrased the question and tried to ask they had hired this person, and the moderator bounced me out too.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
There was a guy in there that tried to post this and they bounced him out.

quote:
Noobonamission: Hello My name is Alex from www.***********.com a daytrading group which was hired by a third party to add massive buying pressure into this stock. Our contract ends as of today and any buying volume is that from the public
then I rephrased the question and tried to ask they had hired this person, and the moderator bounced me out too.
Saw that
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
can anyone else elaborate on this or include that name perhaps?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Ask Tex... [Razz]
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
sorry bestpicksrus. com However that site doesn't look like any daytraders site!

Jo
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I still can't believe there are people in here that don't believe. I don't think it can be spelled out any clearer.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
think it was just someone trying to get a free plug?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
prolly alex/nomi/momo...

he's getting active again...

lol, got a copy of an e-mail today in which he maligns both Simon/Subpennyradio and "BuyTex" from Allstocks as pumpers....
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Oh, okay.

Jo
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...I've believed for the better part of two days...now...I wanna hold everything till christmas...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
fyi: EUROCLEAR

World's leading settlement system

Euroclear is the world's premier settlement system for domestic and international securities transactions, covering bonds, equities and investment funds.

Market owned and market governed, Euroclear provides securities services to major financial institutions located in more than 80 countries.

In addition to its role as the leading International Central Securities Depositary (ICSD), Euroclear also acts as the Central Securities Depository (CSD) for Dutch, French, Irish and UK securities. CIK, the CSD of Belgium, joined the group in January 2006 and was renamed Euroclear Belgium.

~BB
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I'd like to believe, but I still can't get over the feeling that it is too good to be true.

If this were taking place and they were buying all the float, why didn't they buy all our shares too? Just let the price go up and up and up to $7.00 or $8.00 until we all were tempted to sell and then buy them. That way they'd not have to pay the difference between whatever price they paid and $15.00 that way.

I guess the key here is that they are going to pump the heck out of this so it DOES get to $15.00 via the market and they won't have to pay any difference AND they won't have to buy anymore shares from us.

Am I making any sense at all?

Jo
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Between the 28th and the 1st is the allowance time frame but it could be tomorrow or Monday.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
he's still talking?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i doubt it..
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Oh, okay.

Jo

Jo, Alex/Nomi/MoMo a persistent front-loading group-groper...have busted him many times in various aliases...MO is to suck newbies into scams, basically.

not much of a factor, here...
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Just ended
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Jo wonders:

"Am I making any sense at all? "

yes, very much so...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Jo, Alex/Nomi/MoMo a persistent front-loading group-groper...have busted him many times in various aliases...MO is to suck newbies into scams, basically.
So was he saying that Harris hired him through a third party?

Jo
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
prolly alex/nomi/momo...

he's getting active again...

lol, got a copy of an e-mail today in which he maligns both Simon/Subpennyradio and "BuyTex" from Allstocks as pumpers....

Tex is a pumper? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Jo wonders:

"Am I making any sense at all? "

yes, very much so...


Okay, so if I want to participate in the "pump and merge scam", I have to figure out what would be a good entry point, eh?

Jo
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Okay, so if I want to participate in the "pump and merge scam", I have to figure out what would be a good entry point, eh?

Jo

Keep flipping it as long as its in play - you are making sense, good sense.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
quote:
Jo, Alex/Nomi/MoMo a persistent front-loading group-groper...have busted him many times in various aliases...MO is to suck newbies into scams, basically.
So was he saying that Harris hired him through a third party?

Jo

Alex/Nomi might claim anything....not familiar with the specific post
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
it flashed in Paltalk Tex.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
quote:
Jo wonders:

"Am I making any sense at all? "

yes, very much so...


Okay, so if I want to participate in the "pump and merge scam", I have to figure out what would be a good entry point, eh?

Jo

to me? here's where you're really making sense:

quote:
and they won't have to pay any difference AND they won't have to buy anymore shares from us.

 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
He said he was hired by a third party to add massive buying pressure to this stock and that the contract ended today.

Jo
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
So what does all this mean for tommorow. Is this PPS going to the moon, or going down?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so the general concensus is that this interview cleared a bunch of things up and everyone is pretty happy with the outcome?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
prolly alex/nomi/momo...

he's getting active again...

lol, got a copy of an e-mail today in which he maligns both Simon/Subpennyradio and "BuyTex" from Allstocks as pumpers....

Tex is a pumper? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
lol, of course...other times I'm a basher . . . whatever suits the mood of that day's rant...

will PM you a copy if want--I'm only mentioned, not trashed on and on (this time, lol), but will give you a sense of the guy...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
First... Thank you all who wrote how the meeting went for this next MICROSOFT stock we "seem" to be holding, 5 starts for you all!!! -hope that baby puke cleaned up! ha ~

I'm in at .10 and .18 and with this news I'm going to HOLD [Smile]

This is a very nice group here, hats off to you all and good luck , PEACE.
Now to TRY to get some sleep!!! ha ha ~
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
They made a copy of the audio during the interview, they said it will be availible tonight maybe. As soon as i get it i will let everyone know.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tex...sure...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
QUICK NOTES ON INTERVIEW

1- "They have bought up over 100k shares on the market and if there are shorts it will have to be covered before the merger is complete" "short squeeze"

They used a trust to by up the float. The float will be held in the treasury and if needed at a future time then they may release them. The company is fully funded and will not need any dilution to fund operations

2- They will set the pps at 15.00 on the first day of trading and if the market supports it then that is the price "we" get...

3- Picure it as an IPO and we have the shares up front. It is his job to make sure that the share price stays at the $15 or more. The have huge contracts sitting on the table. They have bonds from third world countries to add to the list. He feels that $15 is undervalued

4-No r/s but perhaps a forward split after the merger is complete (8K will not allow them to do a r/s or any change in share structure until after the merger.

5-Rufas owns 9m of CVSU and none of FHAL

6- 3.5 billion in assets and 500 million in bank

7- S-4 is filed and 50 million set aside for each "project"

8- "We" would hold shares of AISS that is currently valued at $60/share. The board would like to have a value of 100/share within 3 months

9- the online lottery will be available in Ohio, Georgia and California (maybe another) by end of the year.

10- Fryyguyy just got puked on...time out
[Big Grin]
11- Moving to NASDAQ 50-60 after merger complete and volume stable


most notes posted by Fryyguyy and reposted by MRS. RUFAS...

You can hear this interview by going to the CVSU website..


bump..for morning readers...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
From IHUB
good discussion:


Posted by: CrowsDaddy
In reply to: None Date:7/20/2006 11:17:02 PM
Post #of 6393

Since Mr. Harris didn't answer my email I guess I'll pose this to the board. I'm not bashing, just trying to understand and make a good decision. Please give me your thoughts on what you think may be happening. Evidently the market is not buying the fact FHAL shareholders are just going to be handed a $15 stock someday soon. Anyway:

I've had a chance to go over the filings better and even if FHAL does NOT do a reverse split it looks as though the provisions in the agreement are mostly pertaining to CSVU or in other words, the "Company" according to the merger agreement. It seems as though it's the "company" NOT the "buyer" (FHAL) who benefits and may possibly get the $15 per share. There are 48,898637 OUTSTANDING CSVU shares...ummmm that's over $720 million if my math is right. Where's this money coming from? Now factor in the FHAL shareholders who think they are going to get a piece of this pie too and there are 62,157,721 of them from what I could find. That's over $900 million. HUH???? Over a billion and a half going to shareholders for this merger? LMAO ok we all need to put down the crackpipes OR to make this believable maybe we need to fire 'em up. LOL

So the way I see it it will then be in the best interest of the "buyer" to excercise the clause in section 2.6 (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price;
So in actuality if they did this then the current shareholders of FHAL may not be real happy since the PPS was significantly lower in the past 20 days. Averaging that PPS may be brutal to some. But the bottom line is I see NOTHING that promises $15 to current FHAL shareholders. This is my opinion only and I am not bashing, just hoping someone can shed better light on this. And below are the snippets from the filings that concern me:

c) In the event the Buyer changes the number of shares of the Buyer's Stock issued and outstanding prior to the Effective Time as a result of a stock split, stock dividend or other distribution payable in Buyer's Stock or securities convertible into Buyer's Stock or similar recapitalization with respect to such stock or effects a reclassification, combination or other change with respect to Buyer's Stock (each a "Stock Adjustment" ) and the record date therefore (in the case of a stock dividend) or the effective date thereof (in the case of a stock split or similar recapitalization, reclassification or combination for which a record date is not established) shall be prior to the Effective Time

Observation: Leaves the option of a Reverse Split open.


2.6 AVERAGE CLOSING PRICE ADJUSTMENT.

In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2 nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price; (b) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ) an amount in cash equal to $15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price per share of Buyer's Stock to be received by such holders of Company Shares; or (c) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay no additional consideration to the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ). In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date.

Observation: Ok it speaks to the affects of this merger as it pertains to the "Company shareholders" but how about the "buyer's shareholders?" (FHAL) And as I said earlier why would FHAL NOT excercise section (A). If they pay $15 per share to just the "company" shareholders of which according to the filings is 48,898,637 that amounts to over $720 million. WHERE is this coming from? It mentions absolutely NOTHING about paying FHAL shareholders who surrender their shares, $15. It doesn't mention FHAL "buyers" ANYWHERE does it? Am I missing something here?

2. Surviving Corporation.

(a) Each outstanding share of the Buyer's Stock shall remain outstanding after the Effective Time and shall not be affected by the Merger.

(b) in the event FHAL changes the number of shares of its common stock issued and outstanding prior to the Effective Time as a result of a stock split, stock dividend or similar reorganization with respect to such stock and the record date thereof (in the case of a stock dividend) or the effective date thereof (in the case of a stock split or similar recapitalization for which a record date is not established) shall be prior to such Effective Time, the consideration to be exchanged for the Company Shares shall be equitably adjusted to reflect such change.

Observation: Read (A) very closely. THAT is where the "buyer" is revealed in all of this. NOT AFFECTED!

Please don't think I'm bashing because I'm not. This is merely up for discussion. And if I am off base please explain because I think a lot of people are confused. To me it is much clearer now unless someone could shed better light on this.
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And this reply:

Posted by: Betting Babe
In reply to: CrowsDaddy who wrote msg# 6300 Date:7/20/2006 11:24:13 PM
Post #of 6390

i got muted in the conference for bringing this question up.

no one has answered me yet.

he said "most likely" they would exercise option C, but he skipped over A really fast. i know, i was listening and waiting to hear the explanation.

can someone elaborate on the option in 2.6 A:
"In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00... Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price; ..."

and for the record, everything else was a big positive. i just dont like this open-ended option. hope someone can debunk it.
 
Posted by Fonzy35 on :
 
SHORT SQUEZE NEXT WEEK YEAAHHHHAAAAAAAA!!!

Just a little taste of the interview, Mr Harris was answering by mic, they will have mp3 of the interview shortly on the web..


quote:

fonzy35: DOES THE SHARE HAS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR FOR THE MERGER TO COMPLETED ON THE 28, SO IF THE FLOAT ALMOST GONE, THE MARKET MAKER GOING TO HAVE TO COVER, CAUSING A SHORT SQUEZE, MAKING THE PPS RISE EVEN HIGHER THEN $15.00 BEOFRE THE 28 ??? GOING TO BE BUSSY WEEK FOR THE MARKET MAKER NEXT WEEK!! LIKE 'PAIV'
Snivvle: omg that will be till open Bell
misterb_10: I LOVE THIS GUY
AtomicTraders: APPLAUSE FOR MR. HARRIS!
Trout31: Cool
skyjuice70: now thats a CEO
mysterymeat: that could be alnight
Snivvle: That will be till opening bell
ScubaDiversUSA: Mr. Harris...thank you so much!!!
WyleSF: Poor mr. harris aint going to sleep till the market opens lmao
H2omd: thanks you have given us more than enough. You did make our day thanks again
bud750: WHEN WILL THERE BE A SHARE HOLDER MEETING
capoza: hi tout
AtomicTraders: APPLAUSE FOR MR. HARRIS!
kvdshade: Much appreciated Mr. Harris
Friedmac: BOUNCE CAPOZA
Trout31: "Sir Nupe A Lot" .... your Next
Sir Nupe A Lot: When will the 10k be filed?
Sir Nupe A Lot: When will the 10k be filed?
Millionzzz: GREAT ANSWER! JUAT FOR THAT THE STOCK WILL GO UP TO $5 MORE TOMMORROW!!! LOL
JJSeabrook: Sir Nupe A Lot next
Trout31: hi capoza
Amphibithen: 10qsb will be filed tuesday latests on thrusday, pay attention stop posting
JJSeabrook: pat in houston on deck
navvin1: shorts have to cover by the merger yahooooooooo
Penny Stock Club: QUESTION ALREADY ANSWERED - I UNDERSTAND THAT SHORTS MUST COVER WHEN SYMBOL CHANGES TO CVSU - SHORTS ARE TOAST!
Rodan812: Tuesday Sir Nupe. He already said
drlaura_1: I have been listening to this entire meeting. Am I able to become a shareholder at this time???
Trout31: JJ... pennyplayerru ... is next
Sir Nupe A Lot: Sorry thanks, I came in late! Disregard my question
lincpro: lol
stockrox: lol
skyjuice70: Yeeee-haaawwwwww
fonzy35: THAK YOU VERY M UCH
kvdshade: Hit em hard Rufus!
skyjuice70: now thats a CEO
AtomicTraders: I'M GETTING MY CERTS AND HOLDING LONG! THIS ROCKS!!
Nafarious: DR Laura tomorrow
kihmjc7: Sir Nupe A Lot: When will the 10k be filed?
H2omd: I do like your style
Trout31: "pennyplayerru" .... your Next
sceptor: what is a nobo?
WyleSF: If we dont pull the hard certs and more people hold shares than are in the o/s... anyway we will lose out ?
ScubaDiversUSA: I think I am in shock....this is great!!!
misterb_10: WOW I'M PUMPED
drlaura_1: what do I need to do
drlaura_1: new at this
pennyplayerru: go ahead man i pass
Trout31: Finally... Lrice your next
Penny Stock Club: Shorts may be paying us $50 per share if we all hold tight
kvdshade: Dr. Laura you ask you broker for the shares in Certificate
pureadrenalin: Please put your hand down after asking question.
drlaura_1: thank you
AtomicTraders: PAIV SHORT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE NOTHING COMPARED TO THIS FHAL SHORT, LOL
jmacb: Just joined the room - can somebody ask the CEO to talk louder - I cannot hear him
Trout31: Lrice ... your Next ...
WyleSF: nice thanks!
Lrice: a fair approximation of what I've heard, : I understand CVSU will be issuing PR's after merger name change on the 15 subsidiaries, and 7 patents jet guidance systems , and those will reasonably raise share price above $30/share even possibly even up to $100/share in less than a year,...... is this a reasonable summary???
nughaud: jmacb no, turn up your volume he's fine
misterb_10: SHORT SQUEEZE NEXT WEEK
Lrice: a fair approximation of what I've heard, : I understand CVSU will be issuing PR's after merger name change on the 15 subsidiaries, and 7 patents jet guidance systems , and those will reasonably raise share price above $30/share even possibly even up to $100/share in less than a year,...... is this a reasonable summary???
pureadrenalin: Please put your hand down after asking your questions.
lincpro: um I second the previously posted YEE HAW



 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
In regards to the certs, Harris said to at least call your broker and have them take your shares out of street name and put it in your name.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
don't they charge a lot for certs
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I thought someone posted previously something about $50 for certs. I've never looked into personally, though. Will probably check tomorrow, though.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Scottrade charged $50.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
does anyone have the interview posted yet?
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
So those certs are necessary? What for though?
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
in my opinion, I think some people are getting too hung up on a "guarantee" for the $15. The way I see it is that having the $15 called out in the 8-k sets a precedence for where this is going. Just think about the fact that the book value is $7.21 and that companies typically trade for 2-3 times the book value. Do you really think this will stay where it's at? Or that at the time of reorg that institutional investors won't be interested? I hope you all take the time to listen to the discussion we had with Harris tonight.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Current Joint Venture Corporations

American International Smart Structure

Brittenum Brothers Entertainment, Inc.

Rocky Road Records, Inc.

Seko Management Inc.

Current Wholly owned CVSU Subsidiaries

Tserof Holdings Inc

CVSU Coffee Shop

Equine Solutions, Inc

Stargate Productions, Inc.

Current Waatle Merger Subsidiaries

Live Mortgage Free

Federal Chamber of Commerce

Center State Beverage

LotteryFever

InfinityOne Inc

Amruss Group, LLC

LoanShoppers.com

SOURCE Conversion Solutions, Inc
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Igor R:
So those certs are necessary? What for though?

if you bought shorted shares, it forces the MMs to cover . . . the take right now is that a lot of volume has been MMs shorting. If we all asked for certs, it'd force the MMs to cover and ultimately that would drive the PPS up. Case in point, see what happened to Travelzoo at the end of 2004 - that rapid increase in share price was the result of shorts being covered.
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
How can we tell if the shares we own were shorted?
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Igor R:
How can we tell if the shares we own were shorted?

thats the MMs problem... not the shareholders.

MMs give us shorted shares all the time, but the manage to cover thier shorts by shaking it..
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
thx Jo.

this is the only point that leaves me uneasy. i'd love input on it.

the 7/19 PR is different from the 8K. and obviously the 8K is the official deal.

i find the PR to be misleading. it never mentions the 'official' option A.


in a nutshell:
-------------------

--> if pps is UNDER 15?


the PR summary (#1) is different from the 8K (optA)


the 8K reads :

"In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is LESS THAN $15.00... Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price; ..."


not MORE THAN, as the PR reads.


PR:

Upon the S-4 registration of the CVSU shares received through the merger agreement, the company will have 3 options at hand.

1.) If the Market Closing Price on the Completion date exceeds $15.00 (Fifteen) USD the Surviving Holdings Corporation (OTC Bulletin Board: CVSU - News) may option to maintain that days Market Closing Price.

2.) To pay each shareholder that options out an amount in cash equal to $15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price.

3.) Set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pays no additional consideration to any shareholders.


the PR never addresses if the pps is UNDER $15.

~BB

----------------------------

quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
From IHUB
good discussion:


Posted by: CrowsDaddy
In reply to: None Date:7/20/2006 11:17:02 PM
Post #of 6393

Since Mr. Harris didn't answer my email I guess I'll pose this to the board. I'm not bashing, just trying to understand and make a good decision. Please give me your thoughts on what you think may be happening. Evidently the market is not buying the fact FHAL shareholders are just going to be handed a $15 stock someday soon. Anyway:

I've had a chance to go over the filings better and even if FHAL does NOT do a reverse split it looks as though the provisions in the agreement are mostly pertaining to CSVU or in other words, the "Company" according to the merger agreement. It seems as though it's the "company" NOT the "buyer" (FHAL) who benefits and may possibly get the $15 per share. There are 48,898637 OUTSTANDING CSVU shares...ummmm that's over $720 million if my math is right. Where's this money coming from? Now factor in the FHAL shareholders who think they are going to get a piece of this pie too and there are 62,157,721 of them from what I could find. That's over $900 million. HUH???? Over a billion and a half going to shareholders for this merger? LMAO ok we all need to put down the crackpipes OR to make this believable maybe we need to fire 'em up. LOL

So the way I see it it will then be in the best interest of the "buyer" to excercise the clause in section 2.6 (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price;
So in actuality if they did this then the current shareholders of FHAL may not be real happy since the PPS was significantly lower in the past 20 days. Averaging that PPS may be brutal to some. But the bottom line is I see NOTHING that promises $15 to current FHAL shareholders. This is my opinion only and I am not bashing, just hoping someone can shed better light on this. And below are the snippets from the filings that concern me:

c) In the event the Buyer changes the number of shares of the Buyer's Stock issued and outstanding prior to the Effective Time as a result of a stock split, stock dividend or other distribution payable in Buyer's Stock or securities convertible into Buyer's Stock or similar recapitalization with respect to such stock or effects a reclassification, combination or other change with respect to Buyer's Stock (each a "Stock Adjustment" ) and the record date therefore (in the case of a stock dividend) or the effective date thereof (in the case of a stock split or similar recapitalization, reclassification or combination for which a record date is not established) shall be prior to the Effective Time

Observation: Leaves the option of a Reverse Split open.


2.6 AVERAGE CLOSING PRICE ADJUSTMENT.

In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2 nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price; (b) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ) an amount in cash equal to $15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price per share of Buyer's Stock to be received by such holders of Company Shares; or (c) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay no additional consideration to the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ). In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date.

Observation: Ok it speaks to the affects of this merger as it pertains to the "Company shareholders" but how about the "buyer's shareholders?" (FHAL) And as I said earlier why would FHAL NOT excercise section (A). If they pay $15 per share to just the "company" shareholders of which according to the filings is 48,898,637 that amounts to over $720 million. WHERE is this coming from? It mentions absolutely NOTHING about paying FHAL shareholders who surrender their shares, $15. It doesn't mention FHAL "buyers" ANYWHERE does it? Am I missing something here?

2. Surviving Corporation.

(a) Each outstanding share of the Buyer's Stock shall remain outstanding after the Effective Time and shall not be affected by the Merger.

(b) in the event FHAL changes the number of shares of its common stock issued and outstanding prior to the Effective Time as a result of a stock split, stock dividend or similar reorganization with respect to such stock and the record date thereof (in the case of a stock dividend) or the effective date thereof (in the case of a stock split or similar recapitalization for which a record date is not established) shall be prior to such Effective Time, the consideration to be exchanged for the Company Shares shall be equitably adjusted to reflect such change.

Observation: Read (A) very closely. THAT is where the "buyer" is revealed in all of this. NOT AFFECTED!

Please don't think I'm bashing because I'm not. This is merely up for discussion. And if I am off base please explain because I think a lot of people are confused. To me it is much clearer now unless someone could shed better light on this.
--------------------------------------------
And this reply:

Posted by: Betting Babe
In reply to: CrowsDaddy who wrote msg# 6300 Date:7/20/2006 11:24:13 PM
Post #of 6390

i got muted in the conference for bringing this question up.

no one has answered me yet.

he said "most likely" they would exercise option C, but he skipped over A really fast. i know, i was listening and waiting to hear the explanation.

can someone elaborate on the option in 2.6 A:
"In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00... Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price; ..."

and for the record, everything else was a big positive. i just dont like this open-ended option. hope someone can debunk it.


 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Member


posted July 20, 2006 21:49
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
QUICK NOTES ON INTERVIEW

1- "They have bought up over 100k shares on the market and if there are shorts it will have to be covered before the merger is complete" "short squeeze"

They used a trust to by up the float. The float will be held in the treasury and if needed at a future time then they may release them. The company is fully funded and will not need any dilution to fund operations

2- They will set the pps at 15.00 on the first day of trading and if the market supports it then that is the price "we" get...

3- Picure it as an IPO and we have the shares up front. It is his job to make sure that the share price stays at the $15 or more. The have huge contracts sitting on the table. They have bonds from third world countries to add to the list. He feels that $15 is undervalued

4-No r/s but perhaps a forward split after the merger is complete (8K will not allow them to do a r/s or any change in share structure until after the merger.

5-Rufas owns 9m of CVSU and none of FHAL

6- 3.5 billion in assets and 500 million in bank

you can hear this interview on by going to the CVSU website..
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Member


posted July 20, 2006 21:49
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
QUICK NOTES ON INTERVIEW

1- "They have bought up over 100k shares on the market and if there are shorts it will have to be covered before the merger is complete" "short squeeze"

They used a trust to by up the float. The float will be held in the treasury and if needed at a future time then they may release them. The company is fully funded and will not need any dilution to fund operations

2- They will set the pps at 15.00 on the first day of trading and if the market supports it then that is the price "we" get...

3- Picure it as an IPO and we have the shares up front. It is his job to make sure that the share price stays at the $15 or more. The have huge contracts sitting on the table. They have bonds from third world countries to add to the list. He feels that $15 is undervalued

4-No r/s but perhaps a forward split after the merger is complete (8K will not allow them to do a r/s or any change in share structure until after the merger.

5-Rufas owns 9m of CVSU and none of FHAL

6- 3.5 billion in assets and 500 million in bank

you can hear this interview on by going to the CVSU website..
 
Posted by JohnDoe on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by shomethamoney:
[QB] Member


posted July 20, 2006 21:49
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
QUICK NOTES ON INTERVIEW

1- "They have bought up over 100k shares on the market and if there are shorts it will have to be covered before the merger is complete" "short squeeze"

They used a trust to by up the float. The float will be held in the treasury and if needed at a future time then they may release them. The company is fully funded and will not need any dilution to fund operations

Hmm....this seem weird..but how can they call that buying the FLOAT.When they only bought only 100K+ shares when the float is around 40+ million for FHAL...Hell..even i have 120K shares...can someone explain this?

Thanks
 
Posted by renrob05 on :
 
What is the official date of the merger?
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
any predictions what the stock price will do today after this interview?
 
Posted by portman on :
 
This might have been said before but this looks to be a pure shell play to get listed. Much like UPZS was. The difference here is people know about this one up front.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by renrob05:
What is the official date of the merger?

From what I have read EOM is the target but FHAL may stop trading at any time. I could be wrong.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
After the news last night it would be interesting if it halted today! He seemed to be scowling relentlessly towards flippers last night so i think he would be happy to take them out of the game. If it doesnt halt i would expect complete chaos today, hopefully the bulk of that chaos being buys!

Ive certainly changed my planning after last night. Ive been going on gut instinct with fhal since June 15th. A few days ago i had decided to sell as fast as I could after merger, and possibly even sell some before! Now i can see myself holding AT LEAST a 3rd of my shares just to see what this is all made of. This is my gut feeling, i hope everyone else follows their own.

Good luck!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
yes guys.... i believe that interview was great... just my opinion. i never heard him say how many shares they bought(he could have) dunno... but those shares will be kept in the company until a later time *IF* they need capital. They ended up stopping the whole buy up of the float because ppl were trading so much they were hoping the float would just buy up itself... In the next two years we may receive shares from different companies. There are 6 new projects on table and maybe be 20-30 soon... The reason why they bought FHAL was because "it was the right time at the right place" They had no intention on going to the Bulletin boards but it just worked that way. progressing towards nasdaq as fast as possible. just like someone else said they wanna make it 45 days after symbol change but it may be 50-60. the 10k will be released next week with hopes of tuesday. if not tuesday the latest will be thursday. The SB will be released right after the 10k. THe halt for trading will end right after 10k filed and open at $15 (now from there, who knows... maybe profit takers will make it dip. But Rufus made it clear he wants this to succeed and he was pretty convincing.) He said the worst case scenario for FHAL holders was selling under $15 kinda jokingly. Then he went into the spin off company shares we receive and everything. He also said something about if they end up calling for certs... and make a pile of money off the shorts, they have to do a board vote and we may receive that money as a dividend. Someone said it already, Rufus owns 9mil in cvsu and none in fhal. No executive can sell or buy anything untill the merger is finalized. The amazon deal is not what they had in mind. It ended up being something else. Said something about a guy named Bruno down in Texas...... and something else. They will be pursuing it still tho.

well thats when i quit taking notes. you all should really listen to it
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
The way he talked about institutional buyers last night made me think that he might have a couple private placements on the table for right after the symbol change to keep the stock price up. Any thoughts on this??
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
nice work P Rowds - I can confirm your notes. I wish I could have written more down but watching three kids and trying to listen and take notes while holding a baby - well, you get the point.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
R Rowds/CatiaEngineer/10of13
Agreed.... And yes that's pretty much what I got out of it, and yes it does look like a stock that should go up even after the merger with deals like that on the table.

Would'nt miss this ride for the world! [Smile]
GLTA!!
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
Long story short -- regardless of your entry over the last few days, DON'T SELL?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
fryyguyy... yes, mr. harris also said that after the symbol change... or was it next week... or was it... i can't remember... there will be a string of PR's. Once those 6 companys are looked at and brought into the cvsu company... geez... i dunno really... and the lotto system he is talking about. they will pretty much have a legal "monopoly" on it because it's a contract. i think he said it was 10 years. and you know how many suckers out there play the lotto:D But yeah, that interview just made it interesting for me... i dunno what the hell i'm gonna do. almost does make me think about an investment and not just a trade:D
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rael:
Long story short -- regardless of your entry over the last few days, DON'T SELL?

well, people are going to have their own way of approaching investments, but that would be my take
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Just my thoughts.... But who in their right mind would sell? Before the merger look for scared money to sell some, even now, and hey with that price jump I'm not going to throw stones, but this is looking like a one in a million shot here and personally I'm going LONG ~

Do what you are comfy with ~
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
well thats what rufus would like... he's tired of ppl flipping. as he said last night and fryyguyy relayed... "quit making .10 cents on this and make 10 dollars" he seemed he was sick of all the flippers and just wants this to take off. he really should release a PR about... i don't even know. Not just new additions.... oh yeah and the spin-off companies from what i understand it as... we will receive PR's from them as well due to us receiving shares of them through cvsu... did i say that right?

had to edit the .10 dollars to... well 10 dollars [Big Grin] lol
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
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(OTCBB:PAIV) Paivis Corp. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=PAIV.OB

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Paivis, Corp., through its subsidiary, distributes medical, dental, and health and beauty aids products to dental and medical professionals and wholesalers in the United States. The company was formerly known as APO Health, Inc. and changed its name to Paivis Corp. in May 2006. Paivis is based in Atlanta, Georgia.

(OTCBB:AOGS) Avalon Oil & Gas, Inc. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=AOGS.OB

About Avalon Oil & Gas, Inc.

Avalon Oil and Gas, Inc. engages in the acquisition of producing oil and gas properties in the United States. Its properties include a 50% interest in 266.73 acre oil and gas lease in Starr County, Texas; a 50% interest in the J.C. Kelly wellbore, a 121.9 acre lease in Wood County, Texas; and a 25% interest in the Lacey Leasehold located in Kingfisher County, Oklahoma. The company also has an interest in 40 acre lease in Camp County, Texas. It has a strategic alliance with UTEK Corporation to develop a portfolio of new technologies for the oil and gas industry. Avalon Oil and Gas is based in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

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(OTCBB:FHAL) The Fronthaul Group, Inc. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=FHAL.OB About The Fronthaul Group, Inc.

The Fronthaul Group, Inc., through its subsidiaries, provides truck brokerage, logistics, and intermodal transportation services in the United States. It operates an Internet-based business-to-business information exchange, which provides a centralized database of freight load information accessible by wireless device or through the Internet. The company also operates as a motor carrier that moves its contracted shipper's loads with leased trucks and trailers. The Fronthaul Group was incorporated in June 2004. It was formerly known as The Furia Organization, Inc. and changed its name to Fronthaul Group, Inc. in April 2006. The company is based in Rockwall, Texas.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
gapping down
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha... awesome! [Wink] maybe the interview didn't settle with everyone as well as i thought it would...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
It was mentioned that the short selling in FHAL will be GREATER then that in PAIV! I think we'll see more shakes today then Dairy Queen!! LOL
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Gap down is MM trick (possible tactic if truly short), seen before, dont fall for it, if it does dip I will gladly buy more, thanks
 
Posted by Phoenix on :
 
What's with this lottery people are talking about? Is this thing online already?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Hey... even IF they can hold this thing down and with the shorts --and the interest in this stock right now I doubt it... So let it go through the merger and come out at $15 a share and then sell it at ANYWHERE NEAR that amount it's worth it! If it plummets to $5 I'll be screaming for joy!!
 
Posted by STOCKMOVER on :
 
What the deal with these shares being trades before market?

Who is getting these shares?

I see 6,833 in volume as of now.
 
Posted by kcool on :
 
Does anyone know when the exact day for the merger is
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
It is funny how ARCA and NITE are on the top again. Makes you think.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
July 28 or Aug 1 I think
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so no gap up or down?

edit...spoke too soon...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Might gap down .01 or so. We will see.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
all those shares were sold at 1.11
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
bid and ask are the same
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
This cert thing has me worried. If I don't get my certs, or have them changed over to my name, is there anyway I can get screwed out of all of this? Can the MM's just go bankrupt or something and I loose? I would think that the broker would have to do something about this.
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
I'm happy we're not gapping up, I hate it when ppl keep saying "the gap needs to be covered" that puts doubts in ppl's minds, this should go up and up today. This may be one hell of day. GLTA
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
200k in the first minute on a dollar stock...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Bid is now higher than ask
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
This dividend thing Rufus talked about...it sounded to me like he wanted us to call for certs so that the MM's would have to cover. It seemed like he felt there weren't shares available to cover and the MM's would have to come to them to buy them out of their trust. The dividends would then come from this????

Anyone have a link or know where to look for the recorded interview of last night?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Milliam,

No, the mm who sold you those shares would get screwed. You still have your shares.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
BID is higher than the ask by .05. Explaination on this for me.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...there is 4 cent reverse gap...that is screwy...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Crab,

Do you know what that means? ARCA has been on the ASK and dropping it.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
not really...one of the more experienced folks here needs to chime in...

im lost...just hoping we aren't getting screwed over somehow...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Could this be the MM's dumping their shares? Explaination anyone???
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
I was going to buy today but with this open and dipping i change my mind good luck.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I would say that the ASK has been below the BID most of the morning so far.
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
This is a shake of the weaks, the MM are short shares, they are going to use every tactic they can to get ppl to sell their shares. I'm holding strong.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i don't think anyone really knows at this point...I doubt there is a textbook explanation of this situation...although I'm sure others have been through SIMILIAR circumstances...

for now though...i guess we have to see how low it goes before something significant happens...

shoulda sold and bought back in...although i'm not to sure if anyone would even get filled...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
1 million shares in 10 minutes. That is a lot of money or is it just "air"
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
Don't sell now, infact, look for a bottom and if you have more cash, buy more. That's what I'm doing.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
in another 990 shares at 98.5!!! YES!!!
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
Is this bottom, it might just be
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah it already hit bottom and it's coming back...
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i have no idea what to think about this stock.. why are not trading higher if you hear all the excitement or is it just a pump by the company???
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I mean .985 ha ha ~~
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
thats a hell of a pump... recorded and can be used against you... dunno what to think either stock...

EDIT: why can't i spell out your name stock...?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
we have been told over and over this will open at 15 a share selling for 7 or 8 bucks would be great more if the price stays up. next week this will go way up as people decide its not worth missing this incredible chance.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey see if this makes sense to anyone. (Those with a lot of experience)Say the MM's sold a bunch of shares they didn't really own(shorts). They are trying to cover that by getting people to sell, take those shares sold and putt'em away, never exsisted in the first place. Make sense? Just a thought.
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
Someone call rufus, ask him whats going on?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
There is a battle going on between actual share holders and shorters. The shorters just went on the offense at the opening and now it looks like the share holders are fighting back.
 
Posted by Phoenix on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
thats a hell of a pump... recorded and can be used against you... dunno what to think either stock...

EDIT: why can't i spell out your name stock...?

I think s t o c k g u r u.com is a site that Bob Frey is blocking.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Ah, classic battle between good and evil. [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah...but the shorters have hundred million dollar sticks to fight with, lol...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
If you have L2's the ask is getting thinner and thinner. You see that mad.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I'm not concerned with this stuff this morning. It will be interesting to see how we close today. I think it will be a strong close.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Must be nice sticks [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
well...i'm not getting rid of anything...i've missed out to many damn times "panic selling", hell...I did it last friday with this stock...i had five times as many shares as i do now...

that hurts...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Gold plated with Rufus face on the sweet spot.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
This is a game people, and HARD COLD CASH is on the line and people will do whatever when money is on the line. "WE" are sitting great, sit back and chill ~

Let them shake this to .50 I'm staying with all shares bought. I've NEVER seen a chance like this and don't think I ever will again so leave in what you can afford, play it safe don't bet the farm, JMHO ~
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
when this opens at 15 bucks alot of people will be pizzed they did not get in!!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
ASK is building now.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
The shorters are down for an 8 count. Can we keep them on the mat???
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Jo..are you in?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
any of us sell during the gap down?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
keep runnin... nice and slow now...
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
actually, the question is anyone able to buy during the dip??
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
any of us sell during the gap down?

haha, god i hope not... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
actually, the question is anyone able to buy during the dip??

Oh how i wish i had a couple grand sitting in the bank during that dip. But, alas, im already "all in" as it is. [Smile]
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
2 million in volume in the first 1/2 hour.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
10of13, yes, in at $1.00, with profits only [Smile]

Jo
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I had that $1.00 bid in for a while, and trading was very strange. It actually posted a couple of .98 .99 sales before my $1.00 went through.

Jo
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Good morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Wink]
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
It's actually kind of wierd to look at the paiv and fhal charts side-by-side. They both are in the same situation, both started in the beginning of july, both have a few great gainer days followed by two red days followed by another few great gainer days, and they both are shorted and being manipulated at the moment.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
so i'm wondering, how will the MM's cover everything? if we don't sell, and company doesn't sell.. since most if not all of our shares are shorted shares..
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
You have to get it. This guy when on openly and discussed issues that can be held against him in court. No one that is faking is going to do that. That is an instant lawsuit worth millions. How do you think that all these companies like Enron exec wound up in the court. They openly lied and deceived. Do you really think this guy after seeing the things that happen to people who falsify intentions wants to go to jail. I don't think so. Holding and Happy!! People do not know what they have sold. It will pay off for all holders.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
they better have a lot of money!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
and if our shares are all shorted shares and they call for certs.... once thats resolved... guess what... this thing may keep it's value and jump. i mean if i'm thinking right... right? someone correct me if i'm thinking wrongly
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
unless that guy plans to skip the country and be anonymous somewhere.. i just hope it's not like that.. if it is, i wouldn't mind donating some to a fund of bounty hunters to retreive him..lol
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shomethamoney:
You have to get it. This guy when on openly and discussed issues that can be held against him in court. No one that is faking is going to do that. That is an instant lawsuit worth millions. How do you think that all these companies like Enron exec wound up in the court. They openly lied and deceived. Do you really think this guy after seeing the things that happen to people who falsify intentions wants to go to jail. I don't think so. Holding and Happy!! People do not know what they have sold. It will pay off for all holders.

Exactly my thoughts! People need to stop treating this like a $0.05 stock. Everything has changed with the merger.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
and if our shares are all shorted shares and they call for certs.... once thats resolved... guess what... this thing may keep it's value and jump. i mean if i'm thinking right... right? someone correct me if i'm thinking wrongly

if shorts have not finished covering when the ticker changes it might just gap up from 15! hey it COULD happen!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
It should go to the moon then... Next week will be a free for all!! If I were an MM I would "stage" some run ups and sell offs to get shares. Let's see what they do, cause clearly this stock should climb all day (which they won't let happen yet, -but may be FORCED to next week when shorts have to be covered for merger.

This is better then any soap opera huh? ha ~
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
News - even if the guy left the country those type of charges don't let up just because you leave the country. People get hunted down over that by the gov't. You don't mess with the SEC - It is like messing with the Mofia!!! No kidding by that remark.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
THIS IS a major soap as far as i'm concerned =)
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockstar:
It's actually kind of wierd to look at the paiv and fhal charts side-by-side. They both are in the same situation, both started in the beginning of july, both have a few great gainer days followed by two red days followed by another few great gainer days, and they both are shorted and being manipulated at the moment.

Yea but unfortunately PAIV isnt recovering as nicely as FHAL is. Maybe someone needs to call Rufus and have him take a look into PAIV? [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
ya'll think they keep this under two dollars today? or does this keep walking up from here on out...with a couple little pull backs? barring something rediculous happens?
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
*SCREAMS!!!!!**

I HAVE NO SETTLED FUNDS TO AVERAGE DOWN WITH!!!!

I'm in at 1.42 from yesterday.

*cries*
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
while you are waiting go apply for a margin account, lol...
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i just feel like it's gonna be soooo rough these several days, since the shorts needs to be covered.. they will do everything in their powers.. and could be very very ugly
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
C'mon, the guy has three daughters, he's not leaving the country.

Geez.

Jo
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
while you are waiting go apply for a margin account, lol...

oooooh, thats a scary thought. [Smile]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
the merger is complete, the opening price is set at 15 bucks,the company bought most if not all the float( less what we bought first ), they are holding those shares, they have 500 million in the bank, book value is 7 bucks minimum!, only six trading days left, today the price should be at its lowest, should only go up next week, hit the top probably next thursday, shorts will need to cover
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I finally logged back in...stupid password issue...lol. The short squeeze was nice. I loaded up at about $1.04....WOHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
while you are waiting go apply for a margin account, lol...

oooooh, thats a scary thought. [Smile]
haha...yeah i know...don't think i haven't considered doubling up when this hits $3.00 but then i think better of it...
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
lost -it's not going to be ugly except for the bashers and people who don't have the nerve to hold. People who take chances get the payoffs. Look at all these stocks that went from zero's to hero's. People bought them at lows and watched them take off. If you want to play this game you have to have nerves of steel.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I'm glad to see that most of the posters here are getting it.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
go baby go.... But see the shake coming and laugh at it ~
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Doniboy, Crab, and mad - I am looking into NLST. I looked at their chart from last year and they rocketed when the hurricanes hit. They went from the .40 level to near $3.00. What is your guys take on it?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I haven't looked at anything else Shome. This is just too intense for me to concentrate anywhere else [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
the beauty of cvsu is the diversification - we don't need to rely on just one thing - like a hurricane season
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Jo ... 3 daughters...LOL that's enough for any man to leave.(just kiddin)..LOL My dad has 5 but he's still hanging in it's been 64 years!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
yes, Doniboy, my life has become this stock
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shomethamoney:
Doniboy, Crab, and mad - I am looking into NLST. I looked at their chart from last year and they rocketed when the hurricanes hit. They went from the .40 level to near $3.00. What is your guys take on it?

yeah to be honest this is all i'm looking at right now...this has the potential to make me not care about anything else for quite some time...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
woops sorry it's been 40 my bad he's 64 now..LOL
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
go ahead, dip back to $1 i will grab 20k+ more shares..
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha... don't feel bad mt, it's mine too lately:(... the lady was PISSED at me last night... and yes, it continued into the morning when she left for work.
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
IS CVSU publically traded? What's their symbol?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
haha... don't feel bad mt, it's mine too lately:(... the lady was PISSED at me last night... and yes, it continued into the morning when she left for work.

Just write her a check, pay her off to keep quiet. [Smile]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rael:
IS CVSU publically traded? What's their symbol?

they are not publically traded
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
right on - I am too - I planning ahead too quickly. I am thinking millionaire by winter [Smile]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
haha... don't feel bad mt, it's mine too lately:(... the lady was PISSED at me last night... and yes, it continued into the morning when she left for work.

Just write her a check, pay her off to keep quiet. [Smile]
LMAO!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Is there anyone here who would be at a cool Million at $15 a share?... Which is NEXTWEEK!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Small squeeze again [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Is there anyone here who would be at a cool Million at $15 a share?... Which is NEXTWEEK!!

Not me, i would simply hit 100k or so before taxes. This would, of course, pay all of my debts and start a process of placing a downpayment on a new house.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Is there anyone here who would be at a cool Million at $15 a share?... Which is NEXTWEEK!!

guilty! $1.44mil assuming that i don't sell out ahead or trying to flip and can't chase..
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
hypothetically speaking (!), if Rufus was scamming us, would he get away with it easily?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Oh yea, and i would probably put penny life behind me because ive hit my once in a lifetime already heh.
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Is there anyone here who would be at a cool Million at $15 a share?... Which is NEXTWEEK!!

I don't know about the rest of you but I would be at 6 million by $15 a share.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
every long holder should put a good until cancelled sell order in right now for 15 bucks! let the MM`s know we are not letting them cover thier shorts cheap. you can always change it if you feel the need but this would send a real signal! my sell order is in and the " proceeds from this sale" number looks awsome!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
since this is OTCBB Rufus may get away easier than big boards.. would the SEC waste their time on OTCBB, plus depends on how many lives he would be ruining?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'm with catia...although i have no debt...i'd be placing a nice down payment and maybe buying someone a really nice ring, lol...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rock on people! Happy for you all [Smile]
Oversold on Stochastic and MACD looking good again.... here comes a run..
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
every long holder should put a good until cancelled sell order in right now for 15 bucks! let the MM`s know we are not letting them cover thier shorts cheap. you can always change it if you feel the need but this would send a real signal! my sell order is in and the " proceeds from this sale" number looks awsome!!

who here will join me!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockstar:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Is there anyone here who would be at a cool Million at $15 a share?... Which is NEXTWEEK!!

I don't know about the rest of you but I would be at 6 million by $15 a share.
wow, i wish i had the balls to keep from the beginning.. nice!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Oh yea, i also promised to bring "MT Promises" some Coronas with lime on some beach someplace. So, subtract a few bucks for the beer and another $2k or so for the trip and im still doing ok. [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i have one in for $100, lol...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I have my GTC at 15
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
Mine is in for $15
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
every long holder should put a good until cancelled sell order in right now for 15 bucks! let the MM`s know we are not letting them cover thier shorts cheap. you can always change it if you feel the need but this would send a real signal! my sell order is in and the " proceeds from this sale" number looks awsome!!

who here will join me!!
I had the same thing set up but since the symbol will change anyway this is kind of "for looks only". I can see where you are coming from though, mayne ill put it back in.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
every long holder should put a good until cancelled sell order in right now for 15 bucks! let the MM`s know we are not letting them cover thier shorts cheap. you can always change it if you feel the need but this would send a real signal! my sell order is in and the " proceeds from this sale" number looks awsome!!

who here will join me!!
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
I have my GTC at 15

right on!! anyone here who post on other boards try to get as many as possible to place 15+ dollar sell orders ASAP!! lets put the pressure on the MM`s for a change!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
every long holder should put a good until cancelled sell order in right now for 15 bucks! let the MM`s know we are not letting them cover thier shorts cheap. you can always change it if you feel the need but this would send a real signal! my sell order is in and the " proceeds from this sale" number looks awsome!!

who here will join me!!
haha, thats a good idea... should post that on all the other forums...
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
15$ here
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
since this is OTCBB Rufus may get away easier than big boards.. would the SEC waste their time on OTCBB, plus depends on how many lives he would be ruining?

yeah I agree, I'm just confused thats all
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Mines in.
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
$15, mines set.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I'm in! GTC * $15!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
sorry guys... "Unable to enter the order because the limit price entered is too far away from the market price for stocks under $10."
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
IHUB members are doing it now
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
If anyone was truely as short as Rufy was making them out to be last night...are they just all going to wait till the last minute or try to strike an outside deal or something? What is the process we're looking at here?
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Yes perfect idea we need everybody to put a GTC at $15.
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
I tried to put it in but Scottrade would not let me, it said that the price was to far away from the market stocks below $10. Is there anything that I can do to make it happen?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Scottrade had a note saying price was too far away from stock price... won't let me! sob's ~
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
yeah all us scottraders get screwed on that... sorry all:(
 
Posted by Lauralai on :
 
I'm in for a GTC order * $15. If this pans out, I'll finally be able to come back to the States and buy hubby all the things he deserves. [Smile]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
scottraders just set as high as u can.. lol
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Anyone asking for their certs or already have?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shomethamoney:
I tried to put it in but Scottrade would not let me, it said that the price was to far away from the market stocks below $10. Is there anything that I can do to make it happen?

try 9.99! see if it takes! close enough to get the point accross or call your broker and place the order ( try this first ) keep the price as high as you can!! GLTY!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
7.00 for scottrade!!!!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
just put in a sell order at 15 (bought in this morning) [Smile]
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
I'm going to try and set mine to 10 and if not then 5. I'll back in if it sells.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I tried going as low as $7 at Scottrade... I'm afraid to put it any lower!!! I'm WAY LONG.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
sorry... 4.70!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Thanks P - I'll put mine in for 7 now.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
I tried going as low as $7 at Scottrade... I'm afraid to put it any lower!!! I'm WAY LONG.

you may need to call them to place it> give a try it`s well worth the effort here!! we need as many as possible if this is going to have an effect!!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
My GTC is to sell at $34.00

Jo
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
4.70 works for scottraders... well ok, think about this... odds are good that won't happen today... then on monday... i should hope you all plan on being at your computers so you can cancel it then...
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
My GTC is to sell at $34.00

Jo

THATS THE TICKET!!! WAY TO GO!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I'll do it ~ [Smile]
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Scottrade is horrible - I even tried 5 and it wouldn't let me. Well they'll get the picture with everyone doing the same thing. Great job everyone!! Let's get this puppy up there fast!!!
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
I just got in this stock. I had to chase it but now I have some and will let it ride. Never know when something big will hit.

I have been watching this thread not understanding the exhuberance until now.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
the high quote on the ask side is 6.00 with two MM`s on at that price, lets see if that changes!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
We sure could use some sort of teaser PR today. Anything to keep the blood flowing. But, Rufus is probably scared to release anything that may cause confusion. It could ruin his weekend with all of the phone calls it could generate!! [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
The funny thing is...to someone just coming in they look at the activity today and read all of this...and probably say "huh?"...
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
lol-I've been here all week and I'm still saying "huh?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Going to the beach. I am too confident to watch this all day. Go FHAL!!!!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
My GTC in at $50. Nice looking profits there...I can only dream!
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
With such a good PR why is this not kicking off the ground ? just curious
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
we still keep downticking and staying right here...any predictions on when things will ramp up? I mean it can't just over night go from $1.50 to $10.50 right?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
everyone waiting to see if anything happens, IF it`s going to have an effect it will take time for the orders to start lining up.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
we still keep downticking and staying right here...any predictions on when things will ramp up? I mean it can't just over night go from $1.50 to $10.50 right?

it cetainly could do just that, this could run from here to 5 or 6 bucks in less than an hour with buying pressure from shorts trying to cover!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
NITE has been on the BID and ASK most of the day today. He is holding up the line.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
volume is on the low side...I suspect the MM's will do one hell of a shake before it goes up...

I have a buy in at .75...just in case...but no i don't really think it will go there...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
jeesh...shoulda flipped it...
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Oh yea, i also promised to bring "MT Promises" some Coronas with lime on some beach someplace. So, subtract a few bucks for the beer and another $2k or so for the trip and im still doing ok. [Smile]

I'm looking forward to it.
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
Another shake
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
no fair! I live in the same town! I'll throw in a dinner providing MT IS a woman! ha~
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Problem with that dip this morning was a lot of people bought low and were able to sell at 1.2 for some tiny profit. The press release yesterday pretty much put me as ease with this hole thing. AISS is a huge multi billion dollar contract that CVSU is in joint venture with(they get %40 of it). Do the math. Anyway, those two new board of directors are joining them from AISS meaning the deal is still a GO! VERY BIG. I think the next several PR's may be about other people joining CVSU from the other contracts they have. Next week will blow all of our socks off and today may just be a gift to those hesitating. I don't care if you buy or not, because in my opinion come next week, the PR's will speak for themselves. Do your DD on these companies CVSU is in joint venture with(not small companies) and you will see why $15 will be just the beginning. GLTA and do your own DD.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
There they go again with the bid above the ask. Same thing they did at the open.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
What a staged joke! Bid's are higher...
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I guess the MM's saw all our 15 gtc's and want to show us that they can play hard ball too
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Found this board this past weekend. Read a bit and decided to buy on Monday. Didn't get bought in until Wed. at 0.80 missing my opportunity on Monday at 0.17 because the funds hadn't settled, and didn't buy Tuesday, because I thought Monday had to be it, until I saw it close at 0.65 on Tuesday. Was real happy to see a second climb to 1.50's and thought hey great I will sell on Friday.

Nope didn't happen.

Read all your posts again last night and about the time I got to the "kid puke", I had decided to buy and buy and yes one more time buy.

Couldn't have been a more picture perfect gap for me. Sold some other securities high this morning and moved them to FHAL at 0.99 even just to watch it spring back to 1.20.

I think this could be a major winner and I am going to be here till Rufas makes me $30 a share at least. GTC * $34 too! GLTA
 
Posted by jasbran on :
 
I knew it would drop when after i bought back in.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
ha...in 30secs it went from 1.02 to 1.08 I don't even think they know what their doing...
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
this is bargain day! the first three days of next week will be green,greener,greenest!!! I mean WAY UP!! IMO>
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
no fair! I live in the same town! I'll throw in a dinner providing MT IS a woman! ha~

sorry - not a woman. Married with three kids. I didn't tell catia I'd have a clan with me:)

Chartwalker - what town are you from?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
In Schofield by DC Everest area -new hospital
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Isn't it true that the lower the float is, the more dramtic some of these price fluctuations will be?

Jo
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
In Schofield by DC Everest area -new hospital

wow, that's crazy . . . I work at Greenheck
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
To many people flipping today to go up. Not to mention MM's seem to be able to do whatever they want. Until people decide to hold and we get some heavy buying pressure, might as well get use to the roller coaster. I'm not wasting my hole day in front of this computer today. Have fun.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
There is supposed to be no more "float"
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Problem with that dip this morning was a lot of people bought low and were able to sell at 1.2 for some tiny profit. The press release yesterday pretty much put me as ease with this hole thing. AISS is a huge multi billion dollar contract that CVSU is in joint venture with(they get %40 of it). Do the math. Anyway, those two new board of directors are joining them from AISS meaning the deal is still a GO! VERY BIG. I think the next several PR's may be about other people joining CVSU from the other contracts they have. Next week will blow all of our socks off and today may just be a gift to those hesitating. I don't care if you buy or not, because in my opinion come next week, the PR's will speak for themselves. Do your DD on these companies CVSU is in joint venture with(not small companies) and you will see why $15 will be just the beginning. GLTA and do your own DD.

you go, cass . . . I've been in agreement with you since you started posting on this thread
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
To many people flipping today to go up. Not to mention MM's seem to be able to do whatever they want. Until people decide to hold and we get some heavy buying pressure, might as well get use to the roller coaster. I'm not wasting my hole day in front of this computer today. Have fun.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Small world MT ha ha ~ Own a rental just off of Ross ave by the river. Maybe private message me, we can have a beer sometime... Or next month buy the whole dang bar! lol ~

GL!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Isn't it true that the lower the float is, the more dramtic some of these price fluctuations will be?

Jo

yes Jo...and I think that we may be seeing it...along with the MM games...
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Remind me, why'd Rufus say Monday, Monday!
 
Posted by Aaron$ on :
 
I've got a buy at .99, today is a shake, so i hope it gets filled. FHAL usually has had a late noon dip everyday, so we'll see if it gets filled!


GLTA!!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Well I just picked up a few hundred more on that dip. I am tapped out and will sit and watch now.
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
I like ARCA's bid 1.0999 LOL
 
Posted by Aaron$ on :
 
FHAL is on a 3-2 pattern, run's for 3 days then consolidate's for 2, a lot of stocks do a 3-2 or 5-2 to reconsolidate.


GO FHAL AND GLTA!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Fryyguyy, I see you keep saying that the bid is above the ask. That is a good sign. This means the MM's have no shares and are trying to get people to sell. The only problem is someone always does sell so they get what they want, if nobody sold they would start pushing the price up in huge increments. Unfortunetly, you can't control others(which is o.k) but if we had 1 hour of buying pressure without as many sell we would blow down the $2 mark like nothin. This is very thin right now and will move very quickly. GLTY and everyone in FHAL.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Thanks Cass, I thought you went to the beach???
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Did any of you get a chance to watch GHLT. That stock was a blast to watch. It would move in 5-10 cent increments. This has that same potential. I very excited about the coming days and I can't wait to hear people cry about how they thought they should get in and never did and we all get the BIG BUCKS. JMO
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
I have been reading the board on this, I know its gone up big time, but I see talks of this going up much higher with the merger. how true is this?

I wouldnt mind getting in after funds settle midle next week, just wanted to know if it'd be to late by then?

what is the cutoff date to buy this before ur shares are affected by merger.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
this time next week people may be wishing they could have gotten in under 5.00!!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chad:
I have been reading the board on this, I know its gone up big time, but I see talks of this going up much higher with the merger. how true is this?

I wouldnt mind getting in after funds settle midle next week, just wanted to know if it'd be to late by then?

what is the cutoff date to buy this before ur shares are affected by merger.

Chad, my advice to you is to listen to the chat room discussion last night with Rufus. Does anyone know if that's available, yet?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
If you are waiting til funds settle, you should get a margin account. (not a pattern day-trading margin account--for that you need $25,000)

Having a margin account means you won't have to wait for the funds to settle. You don't HAVE to borrow, just treat it as a cash account, as far as the money you use.

I just switched over last week, and it is great.

Jo
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
I think more people are holding now...few shares out..and MM trying to bash..and people are incrsing the sell price...* 15$.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
this time next week people may be wishing they could have gotten in under 5.00!!

Not to pump, but I seriously agree. When ever your sitting at a point like this it's scary to buy, but when we get some more great news these prices now will be a bargain. It happens at all levels. I was nervous to buy at .18 the other day because it had already went up %18 HAAA. [Big Grin] JMO
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I've got a margin account, but I'm waiting for funds to clear for this. FHAL is a non-marginable stock for Ameritrade, so I wait.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chad:
I have been reading the board on this, I know its gone up big time, but I see talks of this going up much higher with the merger. how true is this?

I wouldnt mind getting in after funds settle midle next week, just wanted to know if it'd be to late by then?

what is the cutoff date to buy this before ur shares are affected by merger.

Chad, my advice to you is to listen to the chat room discussion last night with Rufus. Does anyone know if that's available, yet?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Cassity,

I bought some for .67 and I thought that was pretty high at the time. Flipped those, but sure which I had those now!

Jo
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
I'm watching FHAL level 2, and watching other stocks too (i.e. paim) and it seems some daytraders are moving to other stocks today. The wild swings we've been getting with fhal are dying down. Ask is getting thinner. This is the consolidation we need! This will do a up swing outter nowhere at anytime. I've stopped flipping this myself, not worth it now, not enough swing. Holding long and strong now. GLTA
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
That chat last nite was unbelievable, Rufus is a great CEO. He answered every question without flaw. The only thing that sucked was jj's mic was crap and all the spamming on the chat
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
well, I just dumped all my other positions this morning - FHAL or bust!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
in approximately seven trading days this symbol will change to CVSU and OUR stock will open at 15 bucks a share! it may go up or it may go down, to me anything under 3 to 5 seems like a bargain! I bought some more today ( all i can afford ) wish it were more!. next week this ROCKS!! IMO!.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Cassity,

I bought some for .67 and I thought that was pretty high at the time. Flipped those, but sure which I had those now!

Jo

Exactly, things have been spelled out pretty clearly the last couple of days. The FREAKIN CEO of the company is recorded saying everything that has been talked about. Not just phone calls, recordings. His answers where very good and he knew his stuff. After my initial call to Rufus several days ago, I still didn't believe it was true. I was thinking about it logically, and I even wrote a PM to 10 of 13 explaining how I thought this would work. According to Rufus last night I wasn't very far off.(Just ask her) People keep saying he's not going to just give away $15/share, but that's the point, HE's NOT. He going to raise the PPS by PRing everything in sight. Contracts, finacials, and not to mention 400 mil in the bank. This will work IN MY OPINION and time will tell. This will be the longest week of all of our lives. Enjoy the ride. P.S this is for those who are not real up on the recent events. Buy or sell on your own DD, but best of luck with what you'll decide, as for me I'm relatively LONG. (ONE WEEK or until ticker change) [Big Grin]
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
Friday's are the worst day to sell if you're long, but it's a great day to buy cuz many traders get out of all their position for the weekend. I bet this gets on a lot more radar's over the weekend and we have a super Monday
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Let's hope it will close a little higher than yesterday. That would be just fine with me..
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
You hit the nail on the head cassity (good post), that's exactly it, he's not giving everyone $15 really, but he'll get the PPS up there and the market will give us $15 and more. I'm holding for the NASDAQ personally
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
thx MTP, I like what I read in the posts, except for something about it can open at $15 or some avg price....not sure about what that means.

Anyway, Im going to jump in with ya'll asap, which is like Wednesday morning and see what happens.

If I read correctly, we are able to sell whenever we want after merger, no restrictions? my question on this is: don they have to send our new share certificates to broker 1st, otherwise I dont see how we'd be able to sell, until out brokerage has changed over the stock and symbol.

I know I'm still waiting for my PAIV shares from the JPHC merger, and that was long ago!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by atomictraders:
You hit the nail on the head cassity (good post), that's exactly it, he's not giving everyone $15 really, but he'll get the PPS up there and the market will give us $15 and more. I'm holding for the NASDAQ personally

I'm going to hold about 7500 shares for the Nas. myself. That could end up being a lot of shares if they do a F/S and give us shares of all the other companies.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Cassity,

I bought some for .67 and I thought that was pretty high at the time. Flipped those, but sure which I had those now!

Jo

Exactly, things have been spelled out pretty clearly the last couple of days. The FREAKIN CEO of the company is recorded saying everything that has been talked about. Not just phone calls, recordings. His answers where very good and he knew his stuff. After my initial call to Rufus several days ago, I still didn't believe it was true. I was thinking about it logically, and I even wrote a PM to 10 of 13 explaining how I thought this would work. According to Rufus last night I wasn't very far off.(Just ask her) People keep saying he's not going to just give away $15/share, but that's the point, HE's NOT. He going to raise the PPS by PRing everything in sight. Contracts, finacials, and not to mention 400 mil in the bank. This will work IN MY OPINION and time will tell. This will be the longest week of all of our lives. Enjoy the ride. P.S this is for those who are not real up on the recent events. Buy or sell on your own DD, but best of luck with what you'll decide, as for me I'm relatively LONG. (ONE WEEK or until ticker change) [Big Grin]
Cass, I remember a few days ago some people posting "why would we get a free ride?" . . . obviously a question of doubt about where this is going. My thought on that is that it's not a "free ride" because of what you state above. "This will be the longest week of all our lives . . . " - let me tell ya, that heartburn doesn't come for free! [Smile]
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
Chad, that the JPHC/PAIV thing was for restricted shares, this will be done automatically and electronically, all they need to do is a symbol change, they are not issuing actual new shares which they are with the JPHC/PAIV deal. This will close one day as FHAL and overnight it'll be electronically converted to CSVU in your account and next day it opens $15.00 on Level 2's... trade away. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
Oh and these will not be restricted in any way, unlike the JPHC/PAIV one's that are for 1 & 2 years
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by atomictraders:
Oh and these will not be restricted in any way, unlike the JPHC/PAIV one's that are for 1 & 2 years

correct
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Originally posted by 10of13:
QUICK NOTES ON INTERVIEW FROM 7/21/2006 at 7:30 pm

1- "They have bought up over 100k shares on the market and if there are shorts it will have to be covered before the merger is complete" "short squeeze"

They used a trust to by up the float. The float will be held in the treasury and if needed at a future time then they may release them. The company is fully funded and will not need any dilution to fund operations

2- They will set the pps at 15.00 on the first day of trading and if the market supports it then that is the price "we" get...

3- Picure it as an IPO and we have the shares up front. It is his job to make sure that the share price stays at the $15 or more. The have huge contracts sitting on the table. They have bonds from third world countries to add to the list. He feels that $15 is undervalued

4-No r/s but perhaps a forward split after the merger is complete (8K will not allow them to do a r/s or any change in share structure until after the merger.

5-Rufas owns 9m of CVSU and none of FHAL

6- 3.5 billion in assets and 500 million in bank

7- S-4 is filed and 50 million set aside for each "project"

8- "We" would hold shares of AISS that is currently valued at $60/share. The board would like to have a value of 100/share within 3 months

9- the online lottery will be available in Ohio, Georgia and California (maybe another) by end of the year.

10- Fryyguyy just got puked on...time out

11- Moving to NASDAQ 50-60 after merger complete and volume stable


most notes posted by Fryyguyy and reposted by MRS. RUFAS...

You can hear this interview by going to the CVSU website..
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i sold 20,000+ shares and im out with a nice tidy profit, just for the record.

too many things making me uncomfortable about this - maybe theres a gain to be had, but we'll see about that more come monday.

when rufus started throwing in the illnesses he had yesterday, i had a flashback. not a lotta ceos discuss their private ailments in pubic... and then theres the 8-K option A, and those businesses that no one else wants that lead to more shares in more companies...

well, glta!!! [Smile]

~BB
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
thx for info atom! thats all good then. im sold. Im not sure im convinced it just change from under 2.00 to 15.00, but even half that is a great gain.

Guess Im just skeptical...but dont see how a person couldnt like what they see.

once Im able to get my funds settled, Im in. Hopefully its not too late.

I dont think Ive ever seen 3 stocks go up so much and have so much MOMO as FHAL, PAIM, and PAIV all in close time frame. lol
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
. . . and reposted by MRS. RUFAS...


that's good stuff, 10! Good luck on your goal [Smile]

as they say, Conceive, Believe, and Achieve!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
keeping 7500! long
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
this time next week people may be wishing they could have gotten in under 5.00!!

I hope you are right!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
this time next week people may be wishing they could have gotten in under 5.00!!

I hope you are right!
me too!!!! LOL!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
hope we close at 2$ and we have nice set up for next week!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
. . . and reposted by MRS. RUFAS...


that's good stuff, 10! Good luck on your goal [Smile]

as they say, Conceive, Believe, and Achieve!

He's 38...No one ever found out if he was married...only that he has 3 girls...I only have one girl and 6 boys..so I thought it would "equal the playing field"...LOL..
but I guess I should at least call and talk to him...HUH?
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
Keeping 2000 long..just got in
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
one way to look at this is the 15$ should be low!! arn't they looking for 100$a share in near future????hope so then we canlook back at these levels as GREAT OPPERTUNITY!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...that is what my GTC is set at...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i'm just as excited as everyone else but for all the new comers... most of us have been in since .08-.25 and sold or flipped on the way up this far so we don't have much to lose. make sure you DO YOUR OWN DD on this before getting in. don't ruin it for yourselves and blame us when this is all said and done. I am as confident as everyone else this is going to happen cuz rufus pretty much just put it in stone yesterday when he recorded himself saying it will... but as i said... make sure you do some research and don't just buy on our excitement... we got in with cheap shares... well alot of us have...
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i sold 20,000+ shares and im out with a nice tidy profit, just for the record.

too many things making me uncomfortable about this - maybe theres a gain to be had, but we'll see about that more come monday.

when rufus started throwing in the illnesses he had yesterday, i had a flashback. not a lotta ceos discuss their private ailments in pubic... and then theres the 8-K option A, and those businesses that no one else wants that lead to more shares in more companies...

well, glta!!! [Smile]

~BB

So let me get this straight, Mr. Harris talked about his illness and because of that you sold your shares? LOL Oh well, if that's your investment strategy, who am I to disagree? LOL
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I am also a little ahead at this time, but am hoping for a pretty nice uptick...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Betting babe...has a point...from the sounds of it Rufas was trying to "rope people" in by creating a "friendship"...telling personal info...

I am not saying this is happening..but it is "odd"...

Everyone protect your Capital and enjoy the ride..what ever may happen...
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
these pp's are very low in my opinion! this merged company is HUGE!! and we will be the only share trading system to acknowledge what we think a billion plus revenue company is worth!! with 40 million or so shares!!! i'd like to think 100$ is for real!!!17 sub companies , what other stock or co. can say that!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
No matter how much EVIDENCE people receive they will be doubtful and hesitant.(Very understandable) Until that $15/share is sitting in our accounts, people will be very skeptical. My point is that this is what investing is all about. By the time you know FOR SURE, it's too late. We are betting on the best odds and for me their is too much evidence pointing me to hold. There is a lot of info. we do not know right now, but Rufus does. He's see's the assets sitting in front of him and he pretty much said last night, TRUST ME IT's WORTH MUCH MORE THAN $15. This is my reasoning, and opinion. I better quit writing or else I'll be labeled a PUMPER! PEACE OUT!
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
One thing I have to say is that this is the good ole' USA we're dealing with. With all the large prison sentences the USA courts give to corporate fraud these days (i.e. Enron, Worldcom --> 5-25 years in prison and millions in fines), there is no way in hell Mr. Harris is that stupid to be lying and scaming us AND have it recorded on tape for everyone to hear and use in a court of law against him if this goes down in anyway other than how he described it. Mr. Harris would have to be the stupidest CEO on the planet to put himself out there like that if this is a scam - which I definitely don't think it is... common on people, just think about it.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 

 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LOL..Cassity...how many times you going to post that? LOL...
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
i guess i'm a pumper cause i'm excited about this one and i bought over a 1$
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
RUFUS said the amazon deal was`nt that great, we thought this 1.5 billion dollar deal would generate hundreds of millions so maybe it turns out it`s only worth 80 or a 100 million and if he thinks thats not that great just what is this companies idea of a great deal? 300 million? 500 million? makes you wonder don`t it!! ( i liked that honesty! how many CEO`s come out and say a hugely PR`d deal is " not that great " speaks well to his character IMO )
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
LOL..Cassity...how many times you going to post that? LOL...

POS internet keeps freezing up! Refreshed and just deleted. Damn 10 you have a lot of kids. ARE YOU LDS? [Wink]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
RUFUS said the amazon deal was`nt that great, we thought this 1.5 billion dollar deal would generate hundreds of millions so maybe it turns out it`s only worth 80 or a 100 million and if he thinks thats not that great just what is this companies idea of a great deal? 300 million? 500 million? makes you wonder don`t it!!

it makes perfect sense if he is for real...it's all about oppurtunity cost...if they can not spend the money there but instead someplace else and make that much more...then that's what he is going to do...
 
Posted by showme$ on :
 
i bought over 1$ too, i'm still not convince about this one. gonna keep till next week with my fingers cross
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
now i really think the shares are bought and are mainly in a hold position!! CAN'T WAIT FOR PR'S!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
NITE and UBSS are sitting on the ask, trying to stall us out! Biaaaches!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LDS?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I can just imagine the MM that shorted at .25 because he thought he was smart. Then shorted larger again at 0.50 to recoop and save his ... and then larger again at 0.75 because he was sure of a return and was cornered to do so.

If he didn't contemplate jumping out that office window at $1.50, I know he will when he see's $2 and $5 knocking at his door.

Good luck to ALL, even the few sorry MM's that will be on suicide watch this weekend. I wish them the same sleepless nights we are getting.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
I would love for this to open monday under the CVSU symbol! at 15$, shorts would really be screwed trying to cover the price would rocket!!
 
Posted by ruiz on :
 
how high do you guys think this thing will go next week before the $15 deal? just wondering if I should buy more today very tempting even knowing my husband will probably fanit when he gets home.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
RUFUS said the amazon deal was`nt that great, we thought this 1.5 billion dollar deal would generate hundreds of millions so maybe it turns out it`s only worth 80 or a 100 million and if he thinks thats not that great just what is this companies idea of a great deal? 300 million? 500 million? makes you wonder don`t it!! ( i liked that honesty! how many CEO`s come out and say a hugely PR`d deal is " not that great " speaks well to his character IMO )

yep, that's right, mad, those contracts with AISS started with a 'B'
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Hey 10!!!!!

Whats goin on with this.....I don't really have time to read the entire thread right now ......I'll try to catch up...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruiz:
how high do you guys think this thing will go next week before the $15 deal? just wondering if I should buy more today very tempting even knowing my husband will probably fanit when he gets home.

It's anyones guess...but I am going to guess that there will be one huge sell off today being Friday...there are still traders in here that won't hold anything over the weekend..so be careful...I am hopeful that Monday will be huge...IMO
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
LDS?

MORMON! (Latter Day Saint) Sorry it's a UTAH thing. NO I'm not [Wink]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
i think we go up, up towards the bell,,,PR'S don't want to miss the boat,,this could fly in a matter of minutes as we have seen!!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
it's holding up a lot better than I expected [Smile] [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Here ya go Maumee...it's a sit and wait game...Hope all is well...


quote:
Originally posted by shomethamoney:
Originally posted by 10of13:
QUICK NOTES ON INTERVIEW FROM 7/21/2006 at 7:30 pm

1- "They have bought up over 100k shares on the market and if there are shorts it will have to be covered before the merger is complete" "short squeeze"

They used a trust to by up the float. The float will be held in the treasury and if needed at a future time then they may release them. The company is fully funded and will not need any dilution to fund operations

2- They will set the pps at 15.00 on the first day of trading and if the market supports it then that is the price "we" get...

3- Picure it as an IPO and we have the shares up front. It is his job to make sure that the share price stays at the $15 or more. The have huge contracts sitting on the table. They have bonds from third world countries to add to the list. He feels that $15 is undervalued

4-No r/s but perhaps a forward split after the merger is complete (8K will not allow them to do a r/s or any change in share structure until after the merger.

5-Rufas owns 9m of CVSU and none of FHAL

6- 3.5 billion in assets and 500 million in bank

7- S-4 is filed and 50 million set aside for each "project"

8- "We" would hold shares of AISS that is currently valued at $60/share. The board would like to have a value of 100/share within 3 months

9- the online lottery will be available in Ohio, Georgia and California (maybe another) by end of the year.

10- Fryyguyy just got puked on...time out

11- Moving to NASDAQ 50-60 after merger complete and volume stable


most notes posted by Fryyguyy and reposted by MRS. RUFAS...

You can hear this interview by going to the CVSU website..


 
Posted by lostone on :
 
can't MM's just short the heck out of it at $15??? that would recover a lot..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
No not a mormon...just a moron..LOL...Love kids...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
WOW.... This has one hell of a "Peaser" pennant thingamabob building.....Looks as it will breakout (one way or the other) towards EOD....between 3:30...3:45
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
hope up 2$ or so!!!!too much too gain here!!!i sure would not sell to SEE what will happen next week!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
we may have lift off, intraday chart looking great!
 
Posted by ruiz on :
 
thanks 10

I am very new to this. Infact this is my first official buy. I got in a .325 last week and it dropped like to .17 something and the only reason I didn't sell was because I lost to much and was trying to hold till it went up a little to recover my loss. LoL then the thing kept moving up and here I am today. I have no idea what I'm doing so thanks to you all your the only reason I'm still here! P.S. I havent sold 1 share yet
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I am starting to think we are going to witness a portion of next week this afternoon.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
come on baby!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Welcome aboard Ruiz!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
here it is baby, right on time!
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
it is picking up steam....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
we may have to say goodbye to $1.10 forever sniff - sniff I'm so sad... NOT!!! [Smile]

Chart showing all strength on the rise and next to nothing on the dips! ha ha~

Who would sell now?!!!!!! lol ~~
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
that was fun - for a second, someone blow on the fire or something
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i guess the boiler wasn't/isn't hot enough...yet...
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Anyone mind telling me which L'2s you use and the cost?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Look at the volume compared to yesterday...people are holdin' more...

Let's hope we close above 1.10 or so...!!!

the higher the better!
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
we may have to say goodbye to $1.10 forever sniff - sniff I'm so sad... NOT!!! [Smile]

Chart showing all strength on the rise and next to nothing on the dips! ha ha~

Who would sell now?!!!!!! lol ~~

chart readers excite me
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Scottrade L2's free if you have 25k in your account.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Bids are building
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Etrades are free after so many trades...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I'm going to take that in a good way lmao!
Greenday = the band?...
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I do have Scottrade but not 25k in my account. Just wondering what some others may be paying for their L2's?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruthie:
Anyone mind telling me which L'2s you use and the cost?

Go to the Microcap thread....They have several packages...
I'm in the $90 dollar area with mine, I like it..
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Yea the band and stock green days too. Yes, in a good way. Talk charts to me some more please.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Free etrade cause' I'm in the frequent flyers club [Eek!]
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruthie:
I do have Scottrade but not 25k in my account. Just wondering what some others may be paying for their L2's?

Ameritrade is $9.99 a month.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
rutie, you WILL have $25,000.00 in your account! ha ~ Enjoy your first trade!!! My first trade I made $250 and I thought I was the sh*t! [Smile]

Your will look like TRADEZILLA compaired to that! lmao ~
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Maumee We've had upticks since you have been here. Do not go anywhere.
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I will check out the microcap thread. Thnaks..
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
no fair! I live in the same town! I'll throw in a dinner providing MT IS a woman! ha~

sorry - not a woman. Married with three kids. I didn't tell catia I'd have a clan with me:)

Chartwalker - what town are you from?

Well the kids need to bring juice boxes, im only covering the Coronas!! [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
everything is going "green" right now!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Looks like it broke out a bit early..... This thing is tough to put your thumb on...
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
UPDATE ON HARRIS MP3: We have not gotten the MP3 up on the site you, and I apologize for that. The lady that recorded it for me IM'd me last night after the interview and told me she had a "family issue" but would get it cleaned up as soon as she could. I wish she had just got it to me in the form it was in, but unfortunately that didn't happen. I have emails and PMs out to her to see how she's coming. She DID get it, but the session lasted approximately 2 hours and will, of course, take some time to go through and take out the gaps so it is in a clean format for listening to. I promise we will get it hosted as soon as possible.

On the same train of thought, I have been contacted by http://subpennyradio.com/ Small Cap & Penny Stock Talk Radio. They want to host the MP3 also as soon as we get it ready. I am pursueing other sites to also host it so it will get as much exposure as possible.

I will update you further as soon as I have something else to pass along.

Thank you for your patience and cooperation. Right place, right time, right stock.

JJ


From IHUB
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
talk about being shout down... Shorters Uncle must be an MM! ha ~
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
well they better hurry with that damn interview... we need ALOT of exposure;)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
looks ready to break!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
but will it break for good... or will people start selling for some profits again?
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
that 1.06 and 1.235 were weird
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
MM's are doing all kinds of crazy stuff, anyone else see that on their L2's?
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
We neeed a good run within the hour before the Friday sell off comes
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
We neeed a good run within the hour before the Friday sell off comes

I think the friday sell off has already happened, i think we will run at the close today!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
will there be a sell off? i guess there will always be selloffs.. ppl don't like holding for the weekend..
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
My streamer and L2's are not lining up. L2's show most of these at buys at the ask.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I sure hope you are right madmoney, but I'm not going to watch. I have to leave at 3:30 for an apt anyway
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
In this case I would hold.... -and am [Smile]
oh, min. chart seeing perhaps a up turn starting!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so a golden cross is a good thing i assume?
 
Posted by Free Muney on :
 
ummm... it already broke up 1000+ percent... what break are you waiting for? 1 million?
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Didn't break 1000% for everyone, and hasn't had a good break today, and the one we are waiting for is the one that heads to $15 - right?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Free Muney:
ummm... it already broke up 1000+ percent... what break are you waiting for? 1 million?

another 1000 percent what else!! LOL!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
a 1000%...i want 10000%, lol...
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
also free muney... are you aware of anything with this stock and what it's plan is? if not you really should go back some pages and read and do some DD...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
What to do...hmmmm...Laugh!!!!!! I feel like I got an early christmas present... [Wink]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
It's a miricle that they kept this thing down today so far... How long can you hold back flood waters?... I mean the bid follows the ask no matter where it goes, and even beats it at times! lol ~
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
has anyone actually bought today? after 11:00 or so?
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
nope... looking at chart, looks like resistance at 1.18 tho... possibly if we could break through but who knows... time's winding down
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
has anyone actually bought today? after 11:00 or so?

I bought some a little after noon time, I actualy averaged up! first time i ever did that!!
 
Posted by omaha116 on :
 
Yes, I did around 1:00pm. Took a smaller position but have already made some good (for me) profit here and am dancing around the three round trip-5 day rule. Maybe I'm suffering from smallballitis but don't want to jump back into the deep end yet. [Cool]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Mad..or anyone that got filled..was it a quick fill???
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Mad..was it a quick fill???

yes pretty quick! it was a few ticks below the bid, I saw the L2`s going there and placed my order. I use ETRADE my orders always seem to fill pretty fast, in fact i saw my bid price show up on the L2 streamer when i bought the other day, that was a first! ( this order took about ten minutes - average in my exsperience )
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Darn...I was hopin' it woulda been a hard fill...Oh well...
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Been in, out and now in and all 3 were quick.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Who thinks the close will go over 1.15?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
I buy and sell into the momentem, always a fairly quick fill that way. when i want in i dont put in a low buy order, I want the price to go up!, I dont want MM`s to bring the price down to me because it just might keep going down! I am usualy willing to spend a little more to help stabilize the price.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
Who thinks the close will go over 1.15?

thats hard to predict. first of all it's friday so at the end we might see some profit taking for the weekend. On the other hand it could stay here or go up in anticipation for a PR. Also the fact that if you look at today's chart it's been going up very slowly, which is also a good thing (though on lower volume).
It's hard to say.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Guess as long as it is green... [Wink] glta
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Things did "tighten up" today, so it is possible... ask is 1.13 and a 1.14 sold.... games games games.... Wait till next week mm's ~
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
What is a naked short? I read something about them holding down the price.
 
Posted by Aaron$ on :
 
Hope everyone has a good weekend, I will see you back on monday. O yeah, i put my sale price at $10 for the next week, God willing it gets filled.


GLTA and have a safe weekend!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
selling shares they do not have.... -naked short
 
Posted by Free Muney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
also free muney... are you aware of anything with this stock and what it's plan is? if not you really should go back some pages and read and do some DD...

I have been in this since .10 a share. Just could easily down turn. Momentum has stalled severely. [Confused]
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
What is a naked short? I read something about them holding down the price.

Ever see mini-me on The Surreal Life?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Next week will be a wild ride. Not trying to pump this or WWEN, but if any of you have some extra cash, I think WWEN will be huge on monday. I still have 25k of FHAL, this is my baby. GLTYA
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
What is a naked short? I read something about them holding down the price.

Ever see mini-me on The Surreal Life?
LMAO!!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
L2's looking very good for a EOD run.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wow would that make my day, although I'd stay it they no matter what!
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
no I never saw mini-me on The Surreal Life, but sounds stinkin hilarious... thanks for the answers ya'll one mre quick one (mind you I am a very new investor) what exactly is a float???
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
could see a nice gap up on monday in anticipation of the next PR.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Ice cream and soda
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
lol [Wink]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
Ice cream and soda

you're on a roll...lol...
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Float = Free trading shares - the ones you are buying and selling.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
ya know the more I'm checking into this new company I think they may just get to $30 a share rather quickly. And with all the spin off stocks.... I'm thinking of holding a $15.00 stock!

Hey... Do the D & D the numbers are there...

This is getting scary! I need a beer! [Smile]

Have a great weekend people!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
now i'm confused... i talked to rufus yesterday and he said he was releasing a PR today. it wasn't supposed to be anything great just one like yesterday.... about new hirings or personnel... i'll give him benefit of the doubt:D he's usually pretty good on his word... i'll let it slip this time. then again maybe afterhours......
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
call the man up...
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Thanks thats what I thought but not sure now that I know I can make a nice one with rootbeer!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha, i've called him way too much... i think he needs a day without P Rowds in his life;)
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Probably will be after hours. He probably overslept from being in that chat room so late.

Jo
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
maybe a 1.15 finish after all?...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Wow, quite the stagnant afternoon! I guess going from .16 to 1.14 or so in a week isnt so bad. I shouldnt complain. [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
this may be an odd question but what what he wearing during the interview?

the only reason I ask is...a $500 suit and a $3000 suit can say different things...then whether it's something from Brooks Brothers or Brioni says two totally different things as well...neither necessarily good or bad...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
a SMILE! LOL ~~
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha crab..? it wasn't video it was voice only
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i chickened out.. sold some for safety
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
i chickened out.. sold some for safety

Profit = smart
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Who called the 1.15 close price? Looks like a fight in the last 10 min.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
As long as we are closin' green..all looks well IMO!

Later guys!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
haha crab..? it wasn't video it was voice only

oh...i misunderstood last night...I thought there were two different rooms...one video/audio...the other strictly audio...

sorry, lol...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
me.....
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
What do I win? for close of 1.15?!!!!!!! [Wink]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
34,000 share buy at 1.15$ someone loves this for monday!!!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha. ticked to 1.14... [Big Grin] seemed like that was first wall then the second at the peak of the penants was 1.18..... tooo bad, ah well, green day... hell green week. good deal!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
ooooh soooooooo close.. story of my life one cent short lol ; )
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Boring, but good day. Enjoy your weekend and I'll chat with ya'll later. PEACE
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Luvforever, I show 1.14 on my etrade marketcaster, but 1.15 on my etrade pro L2's. I say you're a winner! I say we'll all be winner's next week!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
COOL....;0 I'm a winner you're a winner, we're all WWIINNEERRss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Hey everyone enjoy the weekend!!!!!!
 
Posted by GlassCrasher on :
 
Good close. Finishing Green is always good. Looking forward to next week.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Where's the $1.40-something buy for tonight? [Smile]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
if you'd like to get it straight atomic i guess ill have to really spell it out for you, seeing as you only have 28 posts here...

when a ceo opens up a very important conference call by discussing his ailments as THE REASON WHY his business is making this offering... and further says it is to make himself rich so he can retire...

well i look at the fact that this man holds 9 mil shares personally, and even at $1 HE WILL become rich off of the deal. at $1 we are all holding the bag.

He also has an OUT from this whole $15 offer which is in the 8-K, section 2.6 option A, an option thats wording was CHANGED in a PR to read differently (the 8K is the legal doc not the PR. it says they can take the average recent pps (say around $1) and use that INSTEAD OF THE $15 when the symbol changes.

but by then, all the shareholders will have paper certs and it'll take them so long to execute their trades because of it that the whole thing will be a moot bagholdin point.

that said, i took my multi-thousands out today, i dont care what anybody digs up over the weekend and i will sleep well.. the pps didnt go any higher than i sold at, so if i want i can jump back in should my perception of the deal change.

you probably havent been here long enough for the "flashback" statement to make any sense, but there was a television station with a CEO who had many ailments and liked to play them up - it brings out people's empathy. there was also a company that, besides diamonds, liked to issue dividend shares in worthless companies so that we could have lots of symbols in our trading accounts...


and you are right, who are you to disagree. i'm bringing up my concerns because my butt sat thru 2 1/2 hours of talking last nite trying to figure this chit out. and when i tried to bring up the above concerns i was "muted" ie banned from posting in the room.

if my PMs are any indication, i aint the only one feelin a lil sketchy about it all.

happy weekend everybody! [Wink]
~BB





quote:
Originally posted by atomictraders:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i sold 20,000+ shares and im out with a nice tidy profit, just for the record.

too many things making me uncomfortable about this - maybe theres a gain to be had, but we'll see about that more come monday.

when rufus started throwing in the illnesses he had yesterday, i had a flashback. not a lotta ceos discuss their private ailments in public... and then theres the 8-K option A, and those businesses that no one else wants that lead to more shares in more companies...

well, glta!!! [Smile]

~BB

So let me get this straight, Mr. Harris talked about his illness and because of that you sold your shares? LOL Oh well, if that's your investment strategy, who am I to disagree? LOL

 
Posted by milliam on :
 
BB, I hear ya. Rode that QBID ship all the way to the bottom of the ocean.

Congrats on your profits.

Milliam
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
What concerns me most about what he has personally said is, he continually says they will choose option C from the 8K. A lot of people have asked me how and why he would offer up this information before the day of the merger. If he wants to retire in 3-4 months, like he has said, he would surely benefit more from B...especially since FHAL is still trading near a buck! He would bank about $14 a share X 9 million shares! Plenty enough to retire on i imagine. Now, i know he is a nice guy and all but if he REALLY is choosing C he must be incredibly positive about this merger! Keep in mind im holding shares and have been since June 15th but his comments about the $15 a share dont seem legit, I would think he would have to wait to announce that.

On the OTHER side of things, by saying that about option C there is a chance it will pump the stock. IF this pumps the stock to $15 (which it isnt doing so well) then he COULD go for option C and make out well. Why would he attempt this when B is much easier? Good question.

I spoke with a broker today regarding this and no real "problems" were evident to him but he had the same questions i mentioned above. He was skeptical like the rest of us. However, he also commented that if the $7.21 book value was correct and the $500,000,000 bond or whatever is correct then yes, it could be feasible to open at $15.

I dont know about his phone conversations but now we know for sure he has been recorded making these statements (last night). Im interested to see how this plays out with that MP3 out there for everyone to hear. Could he come out the day of merger and say "The major shareholders met and decided to take option B since FHAL isnt performing well"? I wish I knew the answer to that one.

Anyway, this is just my 2 cents for the day. Im just trying to keep my feet well planted on the ground going into this weekend. I hope to start dreaming again on Monday! [Smile]

Have a great weekend! GLTA!

Oh yea, with all of this said he DID say that the merger was complete so maybe option C was chosen already and they cant back out of it. Hence the attempt to boost the pps in fhal before the symbol change?
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
didn't rufus say 3.5 billion...... that puts the basic price at $29 and some change.
how can it tank ???
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
Catia: regarding what you said:

I dont know about his phone conversations but now we know for sure he has been recorded making these statements (last night). Im interested to see how this plays out with that MP3 out there for everyone to hear. Could he come out the day of merger and say "The major shareholders met and decided to take option B since FHAL isnt performing well"? I wish I knew the answer to that one.
------------------------------


he didnt SAY anything wrong. he didnt say anything concrete. it was all his hopes, his opinions, but never ever ever did he promise.
would he buy all the shares he could right now?
he said yes.
well hey, sure, theres a profit to be made... nothin wrong with him saying that!

regarding the 8K filing options A-B-C, he never committed he simply stated that they are 9-% (95% or something) sure that they will go with optC. he barely touched on optA, never expanded on it, he gushed the good stuff and avoided the potentially bad stuff.

his exact words were "the corporation decides if it should maintain option B..." (notice he deflects the responsibility from himself)
and also when pressed about the $15 he states "there is no guarantee"

that's what put me on my guard, and this was in the 1st 10 minutes!

then he said, and i quote cuz i wrote it down...
regarding a r/s etc, the merger is done...

"we can't if we wanted to it would be against the rules of an SEC merger... we MUST PROCEED IN THE MANNER PUT INTO THE FILING"

that means option A is still an option, and we wont know what choice they are making until trading is halted and were all sittin like lame dux on halted shares.

imo. and from my notes of the conference.

~BB


..oh AND, all those revenues he discussed? the shares in the sppinoff companies and stuff?
he said over the "COURSE OF THE NEXT 2 YEARS".
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea, im not crazy about that lame duck scenario. You got close to the same feel as I did from the internet chat. He has me ALMOST convinced that he is in this for the good of all involved. He definately comes off strong and confident and hasnt really stuttered much when questioned or challenged IMO. I know one thing FOR SURE, he isnt sitting around like i am wondering if he is getting a windfall next week, his already happened!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
The 2 new execs do look like an excellent addition, im not sure why this isnt mentioned more. An Energy guy and a Defense guy? I guess that solves Coastal Seas Energy and AISS.

Im bummed out about the connection with the Brittenum Brothers though. Those guys worked American Idol over like it was a play toy to them. They leave a bad thought in my head.

Damn, im comin off real negative tonight. I better stop thinkin about it for a bit and drink or something. [Smile]
 
Posted by Rex A Million on :
 
I just want this thing to break $3 -- am I asking too much? flipped 1/2 on july 19 riding cleared shares and after the buzz last night on paltalk i was think this would have closed closer to $2. we'll see what next week brings -- should be good imho. glta!
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Sounds like every one is just mentally exhausted. We will all be fresh and more positive in the AM.
Clear heads will prevail!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=fhal&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p35774491400
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
First off, I have no idea whether this will turn out positive or negative. I just want to make sure people get the right information. I was listening last night and Mr. Harris(Rufus) said in no uncertain terms that option "A" was out it would not happen. It needed no further discussion. He was honest in talking about option "B" saying if every shareholder opted for it it would bankrupt the company and that the first thing they(the board) needs to do is secure the health of the company. He also stated that Option "C" was 95% ssure of happening and went into quite a bit of detail why. If you want ot hear more it will be posted on the CVSU.US website.

Also for those saying he will be rich once this deal goes through. You may be right but he won't be able to sell his shares. They will be restricted as he is an insider. He will have to wait and file the proper forms before he can sell. His ability to sell will be down the road somewhere. He has much more to gain by this succeeding and maintaining that success than for it to open at $15 and then nose dive.

The true key will be the 10K. It's those numbers that will decide whether the price will be supported or not. Whoever is uncomfortable should sell take their profits and get out, that is their right and nobody should say a word about it.

all I care about is that people have the right information upon which to base their decisions. So far I haven't decided whether to sell or see it through. Next week will help me make that decision if the PPS continues to rise, at somepoint I will secure enough profit and ride the balance into the merger and take my chances. That's my decision for now. Everything is subject to change.

Do solid DD. Take no one's word for anything. Check on it yourself. What I read on these boards just allows me to do further DD. It's a launching point.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
ok wally, by your own admission (and mine):

option C is 95%

option B would bankrupt the company...

im sorry, what was the other 5% option? rite, the one he brushed off.

[Wink] i care about correct info too.

~BB
 
Posted by Bearclaw on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by atomictraders:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i sold 20,000+ shares and im out with a nice tidy profit, just for the record.

too many things making me uncomfortable about this - maybe theres a gain to be had, but we'll see about that more come monday.

when rufus started throwing in the illnesses he had yesterday, i had a flashback. not a lotta ceos discuss their private ailments in pubic... and then theres the 8-K option A, and those businesses that no one else wants that lead to more shares in more companies...

well, glta!!! [Smile]

~BB

So let me get this straight, Mr. Harris talked about his illness and because of that you sold your shares? LOL Oh well, if that's your investment strategy, who am I to disagree? LOL
Atomic...
IMHO...You'd be a wiser trader if you learned from the decisions Betting Babe makes...Your choice who you listen to...In my experience BB has always done her DD and has been around long enough to make profitable trading decisions...A very good contact to have in pennyland...IMO and a lot of other folks who've been around...Good luck
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
good, solid posts, B-Babe and Wally.

nice discourse . . .
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
thx!

has anyone ruled out michael alexander being the guy from arizona (r & s trading) whose father is robert?

just wondering, since waatle (rufus's company) was from arizona.

ive been trying to put together how they came together and why a guy would let a company go like that, when its been around for like 20+ years...

i know its a big state, i just havent been able to rule it out in my DD.

~BB
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
Wow, what a week. I got on vacation and we have like 25 pages, I come back and we almost have 125 pages. 2 of my 3 sell points we hit, so good week for me. We will see if my 3rd sale point is realized one day. [Smile]

Doniboy, did you ride it out? I don't wanna read 100 pages. Last I remember you were pretty much in the red, having a bad trade week. Best thing I did was put the sale points in and go away.

GLTA!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
In case anyone missed it the difference in the wording of the PR and the 8K that BB was referring to:


2.6 of the 8K:

(a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price


July 19 PR:

1.) If the Market Closing Price on the Completion date exceeds $15.00 (Fifteen) USD the Surviving Holdings Corporation may option to maintain that days Market Closing Price.


From 1.1 of the 8K:

"Actual Average Closing Price" means, with respect to the Buyer's Stock, the average of the daily closing sales price thereof on the Over the Counter NASDAQ Bulletin Board National Market System during the twenty (20) trading day period ending three (3) Business Days prior to the Closing Date, as reported in The Wall Street Journal.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
livin,

ur just missing the "if pps is LESS THAN $15" from 2.6 of the 8K

the PR changes that to MORE THAN $15, making NO provision for less than [Wink]

~BB
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
fyi guys the mp3 is up of the chat... albeit an edited version (said to only be edited for dead spots)

http://www.traders-corner.com/

theres 4 parts. i havent listened yet. once was enough for me.

~BB
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
fyi guys the mp3 is up of the chat... albeit an edited version (said to only be edited for dead spots)

http://www.traders-corner.com/

theres 4 parts. i havent listened yet. once was enough for me.

~BB

more good info...

thanks, BB
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
so, please tell me am i wrong? go to the recording part 1 at time 6:20

here's 2.6 - A (as written)
(http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/757563/000129707706000046/fhaul8-kmerger signed.htm)

In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company ...shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price;


he says it applies only if the pps is MORE THAN $15. then he says LESS THAN. he says read the first line.

he makes my head spin. i trust my eyes.

opinions please?

~BB
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
PLEASE READ THIS AND COMMENT CAREFULLY!


I copied this from the form 8-K. check out (a) and the last sentence. It seems like a and c could be a problem.

In (a) From 1.1 of the 8K:
"Actual Average Closing Price" means, with respect to the Buyer's Stock, the average of the daily closing sales price thereof on the Over the Counter NASDAQ Bulletin Board National Market System during the twenty (20) trading day period ending three (3) Business Days prior to the Closing Date, as reported in The Wall Street Journal.

This could be a real low price.


In (c) according to the last sentence the deal could be scrapped and then the pps will go back where it started.


2.6 AVERAGE CLOSING PRICE ADJUSTMENT.

In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2 nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price; (b) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ) an amount in cash equal to $15.00 minus the Actual Average Closing Price per share of Buyer's Stock to be received by such holders of Company Shares; or (c) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay no additional consideration to the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ). In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
livin,

ur just missing the "if pps is LESS THAN $15" from 2.6 of the 8K

the PR changes that to MORE THAN $15, making NO provision for less than [Wink]

~BB

Ooooo your good!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Sandor yes that is correct. If (c) is chosen they can nix it:

In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
So we are probably screwed in all three scenarios?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Not saying that at all, just pointing out details for consideration.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
If a) is picked then our $1 PPS will turn into around $.20 pps at opening. If b) is picked then there is no money in company and it will fold. If c) is picked we might open at $15 OR they might cancell the deal if this whole arrangement was BS anyway. MY STOMACH HURTS!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Here's the thing that most seem to be missing..and if it has been pointed out, I apologize in advance...in the 8k..there is NO TIME frame to cancel the merger...and since Rufas now already "owns" FHAL he can now legal do what ever he wishes...look in the 8K..it is there...just keep in mind that Rufas IS THE OWNER of FHAL as of sometime in June...

On the flip side...CVSU is not traded..."He" wants to get CVSU traded on the open market...FHAL is traded on the market...it's a way to get it done...food for thought and IMO...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
so, please tell me am i wrong? go to the recording part 1 at time 6:20

here's 2.6 - A (as written)
(http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/757563/000129707706000046/fhaul8-kmerger signed.htm)

In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company ...shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price;


he says it applies only if the pps is MORE THAN $15. then he says LESS THAN. he says read the first line.

he makes my head spin. i trust my eyes.

opinions please?

~BB

not quite following this specific post, BB...but I *think* we're on the same page re contradictions...

The filings I've read, coupled with the PRs, leave much, much wiggle room...

have been out much of the day, so I may easily have missed something.

My long-term interest has become the "loophole" whereby CEO/company can "adjust" the pps...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I am listening to the interview now. Wow, this stock is incredible.....
listen to the man himself here:
http://www.traders-corner.com/
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
Yes, i listen to him last night live and i am going back over it to make sure i have not missed anything. Still have shares in this, have not sold one yet.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
10of13 can't he also cancell the deal? Can you think how he and his buddies might benefit if he cancelled this deal? thanx
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
sandor...yes..he can cancel the deal...BUT I don't see a benefit to him to do that...the only thing I could see..is if the PPS isn't where he might want it to be at the time of close on the 28th...I see no other benefit to him canceling...

I am in this...and I find it very interesting...looking forward to the outcome...but all be careful...and don't panic sell! Not the way that this may have been shorted...GLTA!
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
10of13 where can I find that "and since Rufas now already "owns" FHAL he can now legal do what ever he wishes...look in the 8K..it is there...just keep in mind that Rufas IS THE OWNER of FHAL as of sometime in June.."

If this is true doesn't he still have to follow choice a, b and c?
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
I have 75,000 shares and I want to hold as long as it is safe
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
My long-term interest has become the "loophole" whereby CEO/company can "adjust" the pps...


Still looking - I'm told and have read it's in Tax code 368 but have yet to find it.
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
thank you!
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
If a) is picked then our $1 PPS will turn into around $.20 pps at opening. If b) is picked then there is no money in company and it will fold. If c) is picked we might open at $15 OR they might cancell the deal if this whole arrangement was BS anyway. MY STOMACH HURTS!

I thought they couldn't cancel it anymore, even if they wanted to, since the merger is complete at the SEC, that's what I've heard at least.
Or am I talking out of my a**? lol

PS is it weekend again? DAMN IT!!!!!! i want my stocks!!!! *cries*
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
TEX you have been around the block. Can you comment on any saftey issues here?

IH is going crazy. If a positive answer can come out of allstocks it would be nice if someone could share the good news to quiet them down.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Rufus just said that they CANNOT cancel the deal any longer. It is a done deal, 100% done, THE DEAL IS DONE, no canceling, deal done...Listen to the interview.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
FHAL is being "reorginized"..."Bancrupt"...CVSU is being consumed by FHAL(according to this...that is "how" Rufas can stop trading on the closing date of the 28th (or what ever date) and re-open the next day at a "PPS" that "he" sees fit($15)..Livinon..this may be the loop hole that you are looking for...

If all listen to the interveiw...you may understand...TEX...have you heard it?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
rufus said they "must proceed in the manner put in to the filing"

ie: option A, B or C

i still say, and im sorry to repeat myself, that by choosing option A, they can value the shares at, say, $1 (average pps)

and that means if he has 9mil shares, hes a millionaire. while all of our shares are halted.

shoot- if it's at .20 he's a millionaire for that matter.

and he's not even the majority shareholder.

~BB
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
To All above and Doniboy:

Doniboy you said "Rufus just said that they CANNOT cancel the deal any longer. It is a done deal, 100% done, THE DEAL IS DONE, no canceling, deal done...Listen to the interview."


But the 8K says in black and white:

(c) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay no additional consideration to the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ). In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date.


The opporunity to choose option c) has not presented yet and the last sentence above gives an out clause if option c) is choosen. Is there wording somewhere in the 8k that negates this option?

Sorry to be a pain but if these questions are answered then these Q&A's should be spread to all boards to support this stock.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
At this time...until all papers are filed with the SEC..."he" can back out...now the SEC could have them and we are unaware of that...and yes RUFAS claims that it is done...I would simply like the SEC filings to be presented to the public...and then "I" will consider it a done deal! let's hope they show up on Monday...
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
If the board chooses option a) and the price is $.20 then what happens to the share holders in CVSU who think they have a $30 pps stock? Are they in trouble? Why would they agree to this option in the 8K if the would loose so much money unless the value of their company is no better?

ANY ONE, HELP!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
He said that once the majority share holder (Alexander) voted yay for the merger, it was completed. Its closed, they just added a 15 day period to get their ducks in a row and to let others get in on the deal.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Rufus said they are going with option C
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I spent some time transcripting one of the questions and response in regards to what to expect for the share price. The text for Rufus's response is verbatim (or darn close).

Rufus comments, part 3, starting at time 10:08

Question by Danbar8 (paraphrased): I bought in at $1. How do you think the shares will look next Friday?

Rufus: I’ll answer the question is this way. If I was in your shoes and I knew what I knew right now. I would buy every damn share I could get my hands on. I would – physically. If I could resign and buy, I would buy. People are concerned about it maintaining the $15/share. I don’t see how you’re concerned about it. Are you concerned that you’re going to sell? If you’re asking the question? If you’re asking that question because you’re going to sell you evidently think everyone else is going to sell. Alright, let there be 40 million – 50 million shares going at $15 . . . the major institutions are going to pick it up and institutionalize it. I don’t think there is going to be too many shares left at the $15 range to be honest with you. I think it will be picked up by the institutions very shortly . . . once it gets up over this buck fifty and everybody quits playing this stock and trying to cut their profits on a . . . between the dollar ten and a dollar twenty five . . . what I don’t . . . evidently a lot of people out there think this is a scam and they’re playin’ this game with this stock. What they need to do is just sit on the stock and let it go and quit trying to flip it, quit trying to make a 10 cents, sit back and make $10!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
TEX you have been around the block. Can you comment on any saftey issues here?

IH is going crazy. If a positive answer can come out of allstocks it would be nice if someone could share the good news to quiet them down.

Me? For tough DD, I would spend the entire weekend going over SoS filings (Sec. of State) in pertinent states, re each n every entity they claim... haven't seen any SoS reports, yet

Personally, at the moment, I'm interested mainly in the "tax thingee" whereby company/CEO can "reset" the trading price...


lottsa plays could promulgate if that "loophole" is real
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
If the board chooses option a) and the price is $.20 then what happens to the share holders in CVSU who think they have a $30 pps stock? Are they in trouble? Why would they agree to this option in the 8K if the would loose so much money unless the value of their company is no better?

ANY ONE, HELP!

Sandor...take a deep breath...slowly let it out..LOL...it's the weekend...you can't do anything or change anything at this time...relax...

You are right..Rufas and the others have alot at stake..and I do not think that they would choose option A...that choice (IMO) is in case the PPS was already at a high number...all of this wording in the 8K is for one purpose...and one purpose only...to protect his a$$-ets...if his grand plan fell through...he is going to do what is best for HIM and CVSU...we are taking a chance on this..and there is NO guarantee...Once they file the SEC forms...and this "merger" is "set" in stone...then you can probably take the higher price to the bank! That should be done in this coming week! (I am thinking Tuesday or Wednesday)

Breath in...slowly breath out...LOL

GLTA!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Can someone point out to me where Rufus owns the company if the merger is cancelled? I sure didn't read that and it would make no sense. If a merger is not completed FHAL would stay as it is now. No additional value added from the addition of CVSU assets.

Now, how does any of the mangement of either company benfit if the either the merger doesn't go through or Options "A" is taken? Management of both companies(At this time) are insiders and cannot "legally" sell their shares. The only way they gain is if the PPS increases and stays up.

I don't care what contract there is there will always be loopholes. Think of endorsement deals that Athletes get, there are always clauses written into them. It's called protection.

The other thing that bothers me somewhat is that people actually expect a guarantee. I know of NO company that gives a guarantee. We buy stocks based on potential. Heck even if you buy Google or Apple it is based on guidance of futures earnings. Some companies meet or exceed earnings expectations others do not. There is no guarantee as to how a company will perform in the future. It just does not happen. Let us at least be real about that.

I do believe this stock will merger and open at $15 dollars under the symbol CVSU.OB. It doesn't mean that anyone of us will be able to sell for $15 or more. What concerns me more than anything else is, how long will it take my broker to allow me to trade under the new symbol. If it takes days or weeks, that could be a problem. If it's hours or a day. I doubt that the price will go from $15 to .20 in one day. It could but I would think it would take at minimum a few days. Heck I was just looking into EAGM which reversed merged into ONCO a few weeks back. After they did a R/S of 1/1000 the price was $10. it took a bit for it to fall to .10 but the difference was a R/S and a company taking over that to this day has yet to put out it's first PR.

Caution is always neccessary when trading any stock not just pennies. Rufus is on record via the interview last night and the MP3 saying this is a done deal and cannot be cancelled. If he cancels it he stands to face years of litigation and spend tons of money defending himself. If you belive that is what will happen sell before the merger. If I felt that was the case I'd make sure I would not be holding the stock through the merger.

As I said before, I have no crystal ball that tells me how this will work out. I have yet to meet that extremely rare person who fortells the future and is never wrong. Please if anyone has met that person or does meet that person PM me immediately I want to talk to them. We are all speculating here just like we do everytime we buy a stock and trade it. There is no right and no wrong. I've seen a few scams and lost on a few, IMO this isn't one. I could be wrong wouldn't be the first time but it just seems to me that Rufus and company have much more to gain by this going through than for it not to. Heck if I were running a scam, I'd push this through sell as much stock as I could after I stabilized the price above $15 and then get lost. I'd be facing the same charges so why not go for the gusto.

No matter what I wish everyone the very best of luck. Buy, Sell or Hold but make it your own decision after looking into things for yourself. Don't believe or anyone else. It's your money make your own decisions and please don't blame anyone after this is over because you stayed in or got out. If you do, you need to quit trading. Or just hand your money over to the individual who influenced you and walk away hoping that someday they will send you a check for your investment and any gains you may have made. I know it sounds harsh but it's the truth. I have learned much from some on this site but will never just follow them without spending whatever time it takes to make me comfortable with my decision.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
If the board chooses option a) and the price is $.20 then what happens to the share holders in CVSU who think they have a $30 pps stock? Are they in trouble? Why would they agree to this option in the 8K if the would loose so much money unless the value of their company is no better?

ANY ONE, HELP!

Sandor...take a deep breath...slowly let it out..LOL...it's the weekend...you can't do anything or change anything at this time...relax...

You are right..Rufas and the others have alot at stake..and I do not think that they would choose option A...that choice (IMO) is in case the PPS was already at a high number...all of this wording in the 8K is for one purpose...and one purpose only...to protect his a$$-ets...if his grand plan fell through...he is going to do what is best for HIM and CVSU...we are taking a chance on this..and there is NO guarantee...Once they file the SEC forms...and this "merger" is "set" in stone...then you can probably take the higher price to the bank! That should be done in this coming week! (I am thinking Tuesday or Wednesday)

Breath in...slowly breath out...LOL

GLTA!

If you had posted that a few minutes earlier I could have saved myself sometime and my fingers which don't work as well as they used to. I also don't think it's a good idea for me to post after unwinding with a few beers and a couple shots. Looking at my post now, I can get long winded. Sorry.

Nice post 10.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
First off, I have no idea whether this will turn out positive or negative. I just want to make sure people get the right information. I was listening last night and Mr. Harris(Rufus) said in no uncertain terms that option "A" was out it would not happen. It needed no further discussion. He was honest in talking about option "B" saying if every shareholder opted for it it would bankrupt the company and that the first thing they(the board) needs to do is secure the health of the company. He also stated that Option "C" was 95% ssure of happening and went into quite a bit of detail why. If you want ot hear more it will be posted on the CVSU.US website.

Also for those saying he will be rich once this deal goes through. You may be right but he won't be able to sell his shares. They will be restricted as he is an insider. He will have to wait and file the proper forms before he can sell. His ability to sell will be down the road somewhere. He has much more to gain by this succeeding and maintaining that success than for it to open at $15 and then nose dive.

The true key will be the 10K. It's those numbers that will decide whether the price will be supported or not. Whoever is uncomfortable should sell take their profits and get out, that is their right and nobody should say a word about it.

all I care about is that people have the right information upon which to base their decisions. So far I haven't decided whether to sell or see it through. Next week will help me make that decision if the PPS continues to rise, at somepoint I will secure enough profit and ride the balance into the merger and take my chances. That's my decision for now. Everything is subject to change.

Do solid DD. Take no one's word for anything. Check on it yourself. What I read on these boards just allows me to do further DD. It's a launching point.

GLTA
Wally

I wanted to repost this to drive a point home. Your a WISE CEO of a company and you want to make a lot of money. So you decide to merge with another company. The company you own(CVSU) is NOT trade publicly but you own 7 million RESTRICTED shares, so you merge with a bankrupt publicly trading company(FHAL). You spend tons of money, filing paperwork with the SEC, put out press releases talking about people joining your company from major corporations(AISS) that you are in aquisitions with. Go in public and explain the way you plan to increase the PPS to $15(interview last night) just so that you can screw your share holders at the last minute so the PPS falls to vertually nothing and no one ever wants to buy again, so you can hold RESTRICTED shares of a worthless company for years to come. Now does that make sense to anyone. I believe Rufus wants to make money(SO DO ALL OF US), so by screwing all of us, just how much money to you think he'll make. He said last night that he cannot own ANY FHAL shares right now(8k). So until CVSU completes the merger, creates a profitable business/stock, explain to me the benifit of not following through with his plans? If he was the owner of the company already with, NONE restricted shares, I would have sold a long time ago. SELL OR BUY, I don't care, but please give me a GOOD reason why. Until Rufus gives me a good reason or doesn't follow through on something, then I'll give him the benifit of the doubt. This of course is just my humble opinion. -Cassity
[Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
wally asks;
Can someone point out to me where Rufus owns the company if the merger is cancelled?

look back in the filing for FHAL...you will notice that they are filed with Rufas's name in July but signed around June 8th...he already owns FHAL...but that does not mean that he will still "merge" the 2 companies...although i "believe" it will happen...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LOL...wally...sorry your fingers hurt... [Wink]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Nice post Cass. Rufus has not lied to us yet and has backed it all up with official filings. Nothing bad here so far. I'm long...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
wally asks;
Can someone point out to me where Rufus owns the company if the merger is cancelled?

look back in the filing for FHAL...you will notice that they are filed with Rufas's name in July but signed around June 8th...he already owns FHAL...but that does not mean that he will still "merge" the 2 companies...although i "believe" it will happen...

Help me out here. A merger agreement was signed not the sale of the company. In fact the scenario here is actually that FHAL is the buyer. Yes for paperwork purposes but It's still a reverse merger I have yet to see that Rufus or anyone else has paid one penny to obtain FHAL. It looked to me like the Management of FHAL was being rewarde with additional shares in FHAL. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
per Rufus: "25-26% of corporation going to be tied up in insider stock and it can't sell"
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Thankyou cassity!!!! I feel better. Your logic makes sense.


Doniboy states: "He said that once the majority share holder (Alexander) voted yay for the merger, it was completed. Its closed, they just added a 15 day period to get their ducks in a row and to let others get in on the deal."

There is nothing in writing supporting RUFUS's statement. Please tell me I am wrong. cassity gives a logical reason behind RUFUS's intent that makes the most sense from a factual as well as a psychological standpoint.


My question still is:

Option a, b or c still needs to be excercised. Getting alexander on board was done before they released the 8K. This deal can still be cancelled under option c). RUFUS makes it sound like a done deal but the 8K black and white say differently. Please find in writing where I am wrong. I want to be wrong! I would love $15 pps!


Please, can some on give a legal reason why RUFUS or his board could not cancell this deal. Cassity gives a very logical explanation and that is worth one xanax or beer. This answer will help us all. Also does any one have info on CVSU's true value? If they are solid they won't go for choice a).
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Transcribed by MT Mr. Harris said:
quote:
I think it will be picked up by the institutions very shortly . . . once it gets up over this buck fifty and everybody quits playing this stock and trying to cut their profits on a . . . between the dollar ten and a dollar twenty five . . . what I don’t . . . evidently a lot of people out there think this is a scam and they’re playin’ this game with this stock. What they need to do is just sit on the stock and let it go and quit trying to flip it, quit trying to make a 10 cents, sit back and make $10!
Those of you who weren't able to listen in yesterday, it was kind of funny hearing exasperation in his voice. Right after that, someone asked (paraphrasing here) "Why would someone sell, if they knew this stock had the potential to go up to $15.00 or $30.00? And he said something like, "Heck, I don't know. To pay their electric bill?". LOL

Jo
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
Thankyou cassity!!!! I feel better. Your logic makes sense.


Doniboy states: "He said that once the majority share holder (Alexander) voted yay for the merger, it was completed. Its closed, they just added a 15 day period to get their ducks in a row and to let others get in on the deal."

There is nothing in writing supporting RUFUS's statement. Please tell me I am wrong. cassity gives a logical reason behind RUFUS's intent that makes the most sense from a factual as well as a psychological standpoint.


My question still is:

Option a, b or c still needs to be excercised. Getting alexander on board was done before they released the 8K. This deal can still be cancelled under option c). RUFUS makes it sound like a done deal but the 8K black and white say differently. Please find in writing where I am wrong. I want to be wrong! I would love $15 pps!


Please, can some on give a legal reason why RUFUS or his board could not cancell this deal. Cassity gives a very logical explanation and that is worth one xanax or beer. This answer will help us all. Also does any one have info on CVSU's true value? If they are solid they won't go for choice a).

I'll take a shot. How about RUFUS went on record last night and it was taped. He stated it was a done deal and there was no backing out. That was a direct address to shareholders and he acknowledged he was addressinf shareholders and potential shareholders. As CEO he does have cetain responsibilities and one of them is his public statement.

If he backed out at this point, IMO, not only would he be liable civily but criminally for fraud. Just my take.. Take it with not only a grain of salt but a whole shaker.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I wonder if we could get this thread moved over to the "hot stocks" board and then the other thread locked, so that we are only posting to one thread. I'm getting dizzy checking two threads. And it would probably be better to have all the info in one place.

Jo
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Transcribed by MT Mr. Harris said:
quote:
I think it will be picked up by the institutions very shortly . . . once it gets up over this buck fifty and everybody quits playing this stock and trying to cut their profits on a . . . between the dollar ten and a dollar twenty five . . . what I don’t . . . evidently a lot of people out there think this is a scam and they’re playin’ this game with this stock. What they need to do is just sit on the stock and let it go and quit trying to flip it, quit trying to make a 10 cents, sit back and make $10!
Those of you who weren't able to listen in yesterday, it was kind of funny hearing exasperation in his voice. Right after that, someone asked (paraphrasing here) "Why would someone sell, if they knew this stock had the potential to go up to $15.00 or $30.00? And he said something like, "Heck, I don't know. To pay their electric bill?". LOL

Jo

That was good but to me the best line was something like; You've been playing pennies too long. Stop treating this like a penny stock.

I actually found him to be very forthright in his answers even at times when he could have used an out to not answer.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
wallymac, then that leaves choice a) as the only remaining danger. Is there any reason anyone can think of why RUFUS would not choose choose a)?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Yes, I answered it. He has anywhere from 7-9 Million shares of CVSU. If he chooses option "A" the price as of today would be 1.14. Now he has the choice that those 7-9 Million shares could either be 1.14 monday, if it was halted today, or $15 dollars.

HMMMMMMMMM! what would I choose.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think today was a good show that people are holding their share. What this stock needs now is NEW money, and Rufus made it very clear to leave that up to him. Damn if I only knew what Rufus does.(I think it'll be SWEEEET) GOODNIGHT
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
wallymac


I copied this from the form 8-K. check out (a) and the last sentence. It seems like a and c could be a problem.

In (a) From 1.1 of the 8K:
"Actual Average Closing Price" means, with respect to the Buyer's Stock, the average of the daily closing sales price thereof on the Over the Counter NASDAQ Bulletin Board National Market System during the twenty (20) trading day period ending three (3) Business Days prior to the Closing Date, as reported in The Wall Street Journal.

The price will be more like $.20. If the true value of CVSU is under $.20 then he would be ahead under choice a). Can any one comment on the true value of CVSU. If it truly is high then copy the answer to your post. Every one please copy page 122 starting with betting babe and ending on page 124 and post and spread these answers around the world and this will support a fast rise in pps. Keep posting it for the next 2 weeks and we will all be in good shape!

Spread this word and new money shall arrive!

Thank you all!!!!
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
ISTEN VELED EDES!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
I think today was a good show that people are holding their share. What this stock needs now is NEW money, and Rufus made it very clear to leave that up to him. Damn if I only knew what Rufus does.(I think it'll be SWEEEET) GOODNIGHT

Pumper [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
I think today was a good show that people are holding their share. What this stock needs now is NEW money, and Rufus made it very clear to leave that up to him. Damn if I only knew what Rufus does.(I think it'll be SWEEEET) GOODNIGHT

Pumper [Big Grin]
SMARTAZZZZZ [Wink]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
wallymac


I copied this from the form 8-K. check out (a) and the last sentence. It seems like a and c could be a problem.

In (a) From 1.1 of the 8K:
"Actual Average Closing Price" means, with respect to the Buyer's Stock, the average of the daily closing sales price thereof on the Over the Counter NASDAQ Bulletin Board National Market System during the twenty (20) trading day period ending three (3) Business Days prior to the Closing Date, as reported in The Wall Street Journal.

The price will be more like $.20. If the true value of CVSU is under $.20 then he would be ahead under choice a). Can any one comment on the true value of CVSU. If it truly is high then copy the answer to your post. Every one please copy page 122 starting with betting babe and ending on page 124 and post and spread these answers around the world and this will support a fast rise in pps. Keep posting it for the next 2 weeks and we will all be in good shape!

Spread this word and new money shall arrive!

Thank you all!!!!

All opinions have the same validity at this point but logically what makes more sense. As I said the problem may or may not be what it's sold for after the halt. Everybody make up your own mind.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
It will be option C because Rufus said so, no different than a PR. It will open at $15 because Rufus said so, same as an issued PR. I can't tell you to believe him, but I have chosen to at this moment. Your skepticism is certainly understandable, and Cassity certainly is a logical dude, however, if you are looking for an absolute written guarantee, you will not find it. I wish we could [Smile]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
It will be option C because Rufus said so, no different than a PR. It will open at $15 because Rufus said so, same as an issued PR. I can't tell you to believe him, but I have chosen to at this moment. Your skepticism is certainly understandable, and Cassity certainly is a logical dude, however, if you are looking for an absolute written guarantee, you will not find it. I wish we could [Smile]

Though I beleive that it will be the case. In all fairness, he did not say 100% for sure that it would be the case.. He said 95% sure which leaves him 5% wiggle room.

Just trying to be fair to any newbies reading this thread. This is not a sure thing. There are some loopholes and other events that may occur.

DO NOT, I REPEAT NOT SELL THE FARM OR MORTGAGE THE HOUSE TO PUT YOUR MONEY INTO THIS.

It is very speculative and has as much risk as reward. I will only risk what I can afford to lose.

Once again I am not saying this will hit or fail.

YOU YOU MUST DECIDE.

YOU MUST DECIDE.

YOU MUST DECIDE.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
geez.. haven't read the thread since close and seeing all these issues.. why are they being raised now? and not last nite? was there some new development that i missed?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Anyone wanna buy a farm? Just kidding. Someone on Ihub said that they spoke to Scottrade who told then that they may not be able to trade shares online for a week after the symbol change. Any truth to this?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
ppl should confirm with other brokers..
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Anyone wanna buy a farm? Just kidding. Someone on Ihub said that they spoke to Scottrade who told then that they may not be able to trade shares online for a week after the symbol change. Any truth to this?

It's possible. I trade with Scottrade and I know that they are not the quickest kids on the block especially when it comes to penny stocks. Not their priority. I may have to change brokers. This is a concern I have had. How ever much anyone believes in the company CVSU, how would you feel if you were not able to trade for a week.

I'll give you a scenario that is possible but may never happen. The stock goes to $50, Scott won't let you trade, so you have to hold. 2 daye later the PPS is dropping, it's at $12.00. But you still can't trade. A week later, when you can finally trade the PPS is at $1.00 and falling now you can trade but you are last in line so it blows by your sell at .75 and you end up selling at .25,

I'm not saying that it will be the case but it is possible. Like I said I deal with Scott and maybe it's time we put some pressure on them to get on the ball so that we can have a fair chance to sell our shares. I cannot do it by myself.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
ok, just listened to the interview.. wasn't paying complete attention.. but heard the important parts.. it's really good..
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
ok, just listened to the interview.. wasn't paying complete attention.. but heard the important parts.. it's really good..

I thought it was. Like I said before I could be wrong.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
Wally I too use Scottrade, I will be willing to email them to get this thing going. I would hate to miss out the chance to sell at a high price. Better safe than sorry
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mathis:
Wally I too use Scottrade, I will be willing to email them to get this thing going. I would hate to miss out the chance to sell at a high price. Better safe than sorry

I have only one suggestion. Call them. Instant answer. Everyone I don't care who you use should be calling your broker and putting pressure on them to do the right thing which is to allow us to trade shares as early as possible. Remember the squeaky wheel gets oiled.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by JohnDoe on :
 
What brokers are good with dealing with reverse merger and symbol change? I also have Sottrade and damn they're killing me with the commisions. [Frown]
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
There was a guy in there that tried to post this and they bounced him out.

quote:
Noobonamission: Hello My name is Alex from www.***********.com a daytrading group which was hired by a third party to add massive buying pressure into this stock. Our contract ends as of today and any buying volume is that from the public
then I rephrased the question and tried to ask they had hired this person, and the moderator bounced me out too.
LOL, the pump and dump site Bullster? Or his small message board with minimal members? Alex is small potatoes compared to what ran this stock. ROFL!

Talk about a scam, geez. Just listen to him if you want in on a scam IMO.

The Queen of the Scam is my opinion of Alex. I do not trust him, nor care to buy anything he recommends.

Pure manipultor IMO, prolly trying to bring it down to buy up some shares himself.

[ July 22, 2006, 04:19: Message edited by: Peaser ]
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Regarding: Posted on Thursday evening by several
"QUICK NOTES ON INTERVIEW

1- "They have bought up over 100k shares on the market and if there are shorts it will have to be covered before the merger is complete" "short squeeze"

They used a trust to by up the float. The float will be held in the treasury and if needed at a future time then they may release them. The company is fully funded and will not need any dilution to fund operations"

Perhaps y'all have thought through this trust already, so please forgive if I missed something already posted or was talked about in the interview (which I was not able to listen to)
...........my questions are:
What is known about the trust buying up the float and how many shares did the trust actually acquire? Who are the controlling party(s) / owners / executors of the trust and how can they use the trust to benefit their interests? Are their interests in line with (or opposed to) the best interests of the FHAL share holders? any thoughts?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I remember a few months ago, I had a ticker change with DPRE (used to be CDFE or something like that) and I could trade it after one day. However, I had to call AMERITRADE and have them put my sell order in for me. I could not do it online.

Jo
 
Posted by icraig21 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
I remember a few months ago, I had a ticker change with DPRE (used to be CDFE or something like that) and I could trade it after one day. However, I had to call AMERITRADE and have them put my sell order in for me. I could not do it online.

Jo

I had CTFE and when it changed to DPRE I had E-Trade and could not trade it for 3 weeks. I kept calling e-trade and they said that it was out of their hands they were wating for the certificates to come in. It was extreamly frustrating. I now have choicetrade and I'm not sure how it is going to work when this changes over.
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
I just sent an email to TDAM asking them about after the merger and symbol change, would we (i) be able trade that stock right away. I will let you know what they say. Also, has anyone called to get you shares transfered into your name instead of street name?
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
Is there anything we have to do like filling in papers...for our FHAL shares... Pls advice
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
want to make this hypothetical scenario a little worse?
add in that you are holding paper certificates.

...as rufus advised you to do [Wink]

you'll be mailing yours in while others are selling theirs off.

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Anyone wanna buy a farm? Just kidding. Someone on Ihub said that they spoke to Scottrade who told then that they may not be able to trade shares online for a week after the symbol change. Any truth to this?

It's possible. I trade with Scottrade and I know that they are not the quickest kids on the block especially when it comes to penny stocks. Not their priority. I may have to change brokers. This is a concern I have had. How ever much anyone believes in the company CVSU, how would you feel if you were not able to trade for a week.

I'll give you a scenario that is possible but may never happen. The stock goes to $50, Scott won't let you trade, so you have to hold. 2 daye later the PPS is dropping, it's at $12.00. But you still can't trade. A week later, when you can finally trade the PPS is at $1.00 and falling now you can trade but you are last in line so it blows by your sell at .75 and you end up selling at .25,

I'm not saying that it will be the case but it is possible. Like I said I deal with Scott and maybe it's time we put some pressure on them to get on the ball so that we can have a fair chance to sell our shares. I cannot do it by myself.

GLTA
Wally


 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Reverse Merger info:

http://invest-faq.com/articles/stock-reverse-merger.html
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
Really good article peaser!

"Through various methods, scam artists manage to accumulate large positions in the free trading shares of the shell company. An RTO is consummated with a marginal private company, and the scam artists put together a massive publicity campaign designed to create activity in the stock. Unrealistic promises and absurd claims of corporate performance find their way to the public. The enhanced trading volume allows the scam artist to dump his shares on the unsuspecting public, most of whom eventually lose their money once the newly formed public company fails. This scam is commonly known as a "Pump and Dump".

Alternatively there a hundreds of examples of highly successful companies which have yielded millions in profits for investors that have gone public through the RTO. Many of these companies deserve exposure to investors. Initial valuations can be reasonable, providing excellent opportunities for individual investors to accumulate positions ahead of Wall Street institutional money. "

This part confirms my idea about this stock:

We either make a fortune or end up with worthless shares!!!!
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
http://www.venturea.com/shell.htm
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
Regarding: Posted on Thursday evening by several
"QUICK NOTES ON INTERVIEW

1- "They have bought up over 100k shares on the market and if there are shorts it will have to be covered before the merger is complete" "short squeeze"

They used a trust to by up the float. The float will be held in the treasury and if needed at a future time then they may release them. The company is fully funded and will not need any dilution to fund operations"

Perhaps y'all have thought through this trust already, so please forgive if I missed something already posted or was talked about in the interview (which I was not able to listen to)
...........my questions are:
What is known about the trust buying up the float and how many shares did the trust actually acquire? Who are the controlling party(s) / owners / executors of the trust and how can they use the trust to benefit their interests? Are their interests in line with (or opposed to) the best interests of the FHAL share holders? any thoughts?

Per Part 2 of the MP3:

Start Time 2:03

"The trust has not aquired the majority of the float but we know of other people that have been obtaining the float" - end 2:08
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
quote:
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
Regarding: Posted on Thursday evening by several
"QUICK NOTES ON INTERVIEW

1- "They have bought up over 100k shares on the market and if there are shorts it will have to be covered before the merger is complete" "short squeeze"

They used a trust to by up the float. The float will be held in the treasury and if needed at a future time then they may release them. The company is fully funded and will not need any dilution to fund operations"

Perhaps y'all have thought through this trust already, so please forgive if I missed something already posted or was talked about in the interview (which I was not able to listen to)
...........my questions are:
What is known about the trust buying up the float and how many shares did the trust actually acquire? Who are the controlling party(s) / owners / executors of the trust and how can they use the trust to benefit their interests? Are their interests in line with (or opposed to) the best interests of the FHAL share holders? any thoughts?

Per Part 2 of the MP3:

Start Time 2:03

"The trust has not aquired the majority of the float but we know of other people that have been obtaining the float" - end 2:08

T.Y., and followup....Is there a source for infomration on the trust? Is the Trust's name known? ...I'll plead for indulgences and patience here.... I've never dealt with kind of a matter before...newbie-ness if you will.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Bucky:

In looking into the trust I can find little information on it.

In checking back further into the BBAN / Enhancement holdings deal I do see reference to a "Stanley Holdings Business Trust" referencing issuance of stock from it with Signature stock transfer Inc.

This data is Exhibit F from the Complaint filed in Nevada court and is dated October 10, 2003. I have no idea if this trust has anything to do with the current deal or if the name "Stanley" is associated with Ben Stanley. Still looking into it.

Your not alone, I have learned a lot from this deal and I'm sure it will continue.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
preface: i dont wanna slander anyone here.

i simply havent been able to rule out this coincidence, so i could use some help with DD.
i dont know how to double check this one.

posted before, no one responded...

----------------------------------

my post:

has anyone ruled out michael alexander being the guy from scottsdale arizona (r & s trading) whose father is robert alexander?

just wondering, since waatle (rufus's company, before he relocated it) was in gilbert arizona, about 25 miles from the r&s trading michael alexander (who just got pinched for investment fraud).

ive been trying to put together how they came together and why a guy (alexander) would let a company go like that, when its been around for like 20+ years.

i know its a big state, and a common name, i just havent been able to rule it out in my DD.

again, completely totally coincidentally hypothetical. but not entirely improbable, so...

~BB
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Livinonklendathu:

T.Y.....as the layers of the onion are peeled away, the center is always revealed....keep up the good work on DD'in.
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
I cannot wait until the payoff - This ride is going to be sweet - Congrats to all who hold!!!
 
Posted by Braindamaged on :
 
I'm gonna be rich filthy stinking rich

Actually I don't have much invested in this one but it has been a learning experience as people smarter than I am are all learning from this one.

I will hold my 1000 shares and see if I can sqeeze a dollar out of a dime.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
It doesn't matter Betting Babe, Alexander is not part of the new company. Fhal was broke and bankrupt now, thankfully, it is being gobbled up.

By the way, I checked out your Web Page, congrats on your success. You really are a Babe (that bets).


quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
preface: i dont wanna slander anyone here.

i simply havent been able to rule out this coincidence, so i could use some help with DD.
i dont know how to double check this one.

posted before, no one responded...


 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
pr newswire has news from over a year ago on this company, doubt it's a scam, it would have to be well orchastated <-
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
You guys need to trade with Schwab. I called on Friday and they told me that when the symbol changes and trading begins, I can sell my shares whenever I want to. No wait. You can't buy more than 999,999 shares of a penny in one trade, but they will sell your shares faster than anyone else.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
First off, I have no idea whether this will turn out positive or negative. I just want to make sure people get the right information. I was listening last night and Mr. Harris(Rufus) said in no uncertain terms that option "A" was out it would not happen. It needed no further discussion. He was honest in talking about option "B" saying if every shareholder opted for it it would bankrupt the company and that the first thing they(the board) needs to do is secure the health of the company. He also stated that Option "C" was 95% ssure of happening and went into quite a bit of detail why. If you want ot hear more it will be posted on the CVSU.US website.

Also for those saying he will be rich once this deal goes through. You may be right but he won't be able to sell his shares. They will be restricted as he is an insider. He will have to wait and file the proper forms before he can sell. His ability to sell will be down the road somewhere. He has much more to gain by this succeeding and maintaining that success than for it to open at $15 and then nose dive.

The true key will be the 10K. It's those numbers that will decide whether the price will be supported or not. Whoever is uncomfortable should sell take their profits and get out, that is their right and nobody should say a word about it.

all I care about is that people have the right information upon which to base their decisions. So far I haven't decided whether to sell or see it through. Next week will help me make that decision if the PPS continues to rise, at somepoint I will secure enough profit and ride the balance into the merger and take my chances. That's my decision for now. Everything is subject to change.

Do solid DD. Take no one's word for anything. Check on it yourself. What I read on these boards just allows me to do further DD. It's a launching point.

GLTA
Wally

But, this is my point exactly. Is he allowed to go so much into the detail of the merger with us right now? The 8k states there is a decision they can make so thats public knowledge. But, the result....shouldnt that come later once everything is cleared?

I also want everyone to have the proper info. So, id rather not spout off about what Rufus said until i know for sure its a) legal for him to say so and b) not just his interpretation of what he thinks might happen. I dont know the legal details enough to sort out what is legally binding and what is just a comment.

But, anyway, i finally got some sleep so im feeling a bit better. [Smile]
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
One way or the other - Next week will be a week to be remembered in Penny Stock Land. This could be the biggest thing of 2006.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea, no kiddin. Nice resume!

And BB, id love to help out with some of the deeper DD you are up to right now but the whites of my eyes are pink and my head hurts. Ive been trying to stay awwwwway from the PC BUt im only gone a few hours before im drawn back!

quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
It doesn't matter Betting Babe, Alexander is not part of the new company. Fhal was broke and bankrupt now, thankfully, it is being gobbled up.

By the way, I checked out your Web Page, congrats on your success. You really are a Babe (that bets).


quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
preface: i dont wanna slander anyone here.

i simply havent been able to rule out this coincidence, so i could use some help with DD.
i dont know how to double check this one.

posted before, no one responded...



 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I was thinking about that!! I couldnt even perceive the idea that he could successfully manipulate tons of FHAL holders to actually slow their own ability to sell off their shares once the merger is finished. But, WOW...what if he could? LOL

The Etrade broker i spoke with said it would probably be in my best interest to leave them electronically owned.


quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
want to make this hypothetical scenario a little worse?
add in that you are holding paper certificates.

...as rufus advised you to do [Wink]

you'll be mailing yours in while others are selling theirs off.

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Anyone wanna buy a farm? Just kidding. Someone on Ihub said that they spoke to Scottrade who told then that they may not be able to trade shares online for a week after the symbol change. Any truth to this?




 
Posted by Rex A Million on :
 
i've been doing dd on the stock (still own 100k share after selling half on the way to $1.50) and here's some questions / answers that hope will help?

quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
... So you decide to merge with another company. The company you own(CVSU) is NOT trade publicly but you own 7 million RESTRICTED shares, so you merge with a bankrupt publicly trading company(FHAL)....

cassity i've heard different stories about this but if fhal is bankrupt why on earth would m n 1 dotcom do an analyst report saying the company was healthy and a buy !!!BEFORE!!! the cvsu merger was ever pubically announced? http://www.***.com/pdf/FHAL.pdf


quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
.... What this stock needs now is NEW money, and Rufus made it very clear to leave that up to him....

this doesn't make sense to me -- if i were a ceo and i wanted to get my buddies into this why wait till the price is at $15/30/50/100 when they could get in at below a $1? what makes us more special then rufus buddies?

quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
.... Someone on Ihub said that they spoke to Scottrade who told then that they may not be able to trade shares online for a week after the symbol change. Any truth to this?

conservative brokers like scottie wait to have shares in hand from the dtc before allowing trades -- helps protect traders and broker from screw ups like paiv/paim selling restricted shares. and a company can cancel -- it happens peeps!

quote:
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
.... 1- "They have bought up over 100k shares on the market and if there are shorts it will have to be covered before the merger is complete" "short squeeze"

They used a trust to by up the float. The float will be held in the treasury and if needed at a future time then they may release them. The company is fully funded and will not need any dilution to fund operations" ....

squeeze to happen before the merger is complete? what? how many of you read this thread where it ya'll saying the deal is done no turning back -- so is the squeeze over? oh and the trust part -- that's moist! if a trust was use to buy up the float and that makes the trust 10% owner where are form 4s?

regardless if i own 100k naked or real shares i'll be selling before the 28 $15 is too rich for my blood. btw, aint cmkx ipoing the cim shares on monday? just kidding! glta!
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jos_tul:
Is there anything we have to do like filling in papers...for our FHAL shares... Pls advice

Can somebody let us know the process for newbies in this... Should we really file something...before symbol change ?
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
jos_tul

CALL your broker. If you are in a cash account you are ok. If you have a margin account then your broker can borrow your shares and your screwed. If you reqest hard copies (certificates) then you won't see them for 4-6 weeks during which time you can't trade and your stuck watching only. Not safe.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Only get the certs if you plan on holding for a long time, other than that you should keep them in your brokers account so you can move them when you need to.
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
I only have a cash account. So it means I do not have to do anything and depends on my broker...( I have E-Trade) i can start trade as soon as symbol change is effective right ?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
There may be a time limit until you can trade. Please call your broker, explain the situation, and then ask him if there will be a delay. Don't let him brush you off, he works for you.
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
Thx. Will call them monday and post here what they told...
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
preface: i dont wanna slander anyone here.

i simply havent been able to rule out this coincidence, so i could use some help with DD.
i dont know how to double check this one.

posted before, no one responded...

Ok - http://phoenix.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/2006/investmentfraud050106.htm

Case in question is USA, et al v. Alexander et al #2:05-cr-00472 District of Arizona Phoenix

Defendant in above case is Michael Alexander, age 42. FHAL guy is Michael D. Alexander age 38 or 39.

Pulled the case on PACER just for grins and verified it is not the same person per previous addresses, Bench Warrants, Order's of forfeiture showing properties, Employment histories, etc. (interesting read though on a Ponzi Scheme if your into that sort of thing [Razz] )
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Has anyone browsed their way through the old Frontaul reports...from when they were Furia Org? Im not very good with thes types of details so i wanted to mention it in case some legal begals out there were bored this weekend! [Smile]

http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/default.aspx?cik=757563

And maybe some more time killing items......

http://markets.chron.com/chron?Page=News&Ticker=FURA
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
Man, some people just want to nit pick this company to death.

Just sell enough to protect what you put into it, and let the rest ride. Take the chance, grow a sack !!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
Man, some people just want to nit pick this company to death.

Just sell enough to protect what you put into it, and let the rest ride. Take the chance, grow a sack !!!

Im not nit picking CVSU so much, just reading into how things got to where they are today with FHAL. A lot of people have commented how not much info is available for Fronthaul Pre-Amazon hype so i posted the links above.

I am taking a chance Tylee and my goal here isnt to be negative. I did pull out my initial investment and I do intend to finish the ride, but it doesnt mean im giving up researching things. I prefer to keep a good eye on things when several thousands of dollars are concerned, sack or not.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
thx Livin' for the DD!

i had found that case info, and it didnt satisfy me. [Roll Eyes]
38 & 42 were too close, especially since i have no proof of the 38.

yeah, im that thorough and skeptical... do you have links to the later mentioned info perchance?

~BB

Livin said:
Ok - http://phoenix.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/2006/investmentfraud050106.htm

Case in question is USA, et al v. Alexander et al #2:05-cr-00472 District of Arizona Phoenix

Defendant in above case is Michael Alexander, age 42. FHAL guy is Michael D. Alexander age 38 or 39.

Pulled the case on PACER just for grins and verified it is not the same person per previous addresses, Bench Warrants, Order's of forfeiture showing properties, Employment histories, etc. (interesting read though on a Ponzi Scheme if your into that sort of thing )

 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
For the case? It's on PACER, gotta have an account as it costs .08 per page. I did not download it as it is huge, I just read through enough to satisfy.

http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
just fyi the guy in mesa arizona is also Michael D. Alexander.

ill DD further, and thx! must be a really common name.

~BB
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
There is also a Michael G Alexander and a couple others I ran across, could not make the connection to either FHAL or R & S guys.

The "D" guy in Mesa does not match up per any address I could find in the "case". Have fun [Smile]
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
just fyi the guy in mesa arizona is also Michael D. Alexander.

ill DD further, and thx! must be a really common name.

~BB

I saw before you edited smartypants [Wink]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
[Razz]
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
I smell money!!! Betting babe will be back in the stock because she can't stay away. A person that looks up that much information is on the fence. bb you know you like the stock just get back in and we will all make money!!!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
thx shome i already made a nice amount of money on this one.

i just like to know what im in. dont fall in love.

im rarely on the fence. im not a a middle-road kinda gal.

~BB
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Did you guys listen to the CEO interview? Good stuff...here's the link: http://www.traders-corner.com
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
thx shome i already made a nice amount of money on this one.

i just like to know what im in. dont fall in love.

im rarely on the fence. im not a a middle-road kinda gal.

~BB

If you saw me, you would fall in love.
 
Posted by vaquero on :
 
dont fall in love.

im rarely on the fence. im not a a middle-road kinda gal.

~BB
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you saw me, you would fall in love.

------------------------------------------


Oh schidt...
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vaquero:
dont fall in love.

im rarely on the fence. im not a a middle-road kinda gal.

~BB
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you saw me, you would fall in love.

------------------------------------------


Oh schidt...

I'd like to find out!
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
I fell in love and haven't taken a shower since, hence my name.

Hang strong through this one, I've been calling broker friends and finance people all weekend to get opinions. They all seem to think this is legit, and that if Rufus publicly stated these facts and he pulls any funny business he'll be sued for the rest of his lifetime and spend retirement in the courts.

No matter how much money you make, do you really want to spend your final years going to court every week and dealing with lawyers ?

The $15 is going to happen, imo. The only two questions are:

#1 how long will the pps hold up.

#2 how many of you have cash accounts and will be able to trade it right away.

I have a cash account through Schwab and was assured that I can trade CVSU as soon as trading opens.
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
when are they planning to stop trading FHAL and change Symbol to CVSU ? on the 28th ?
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
A halt in trading can happen anytime after the 10K. Could be as early as Monday.
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
That's still up in the air, we're waiting for the 10-K I believe to make it official. I know that if that 10-K has everything Rufus hinted that it would in it there will be a mad short covering dash and buying frenzy before trading is halted.

I mean if you could buy a stock for $7 that was going to be $15 wouldn't you !

I really think there are still a ton of people on the sidelines here. Plus the people who made money on the run from .20 may buyu back in knowing they will make more money.

If this isn't shaping up to be a "Perfect Storm" than I don't know what else is...
 
Posted by bigdog on :
 
with a float of only 11 million shares, DTGP has the breakout potential that were all looking for!
 -
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I have a question for all that think this is a scam.

How does Rufus or any of the management profit? They hold restricted shares. Those shares are locked up. They will not be allowed to trade them for sometime. There has been no dumping of shares on the market, so no new capitalization.

So how do they profit unless this is successful and either holds the $15 or goes up?

Looking forward to any responses.

Also everyone should be calling their brokers about the symbol change. If they get enough people calling they will know they are being watched and that will hopefully keep them on the ball making the transition smoother.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
I dont care.

I only have 6000 shares that I bnought *.10

That is all I could afford.

As long as I can sell above that, I dont lose any $$. I will just be more leary in the future is all.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
see, now if i only had what tylee has invested id probably ride it out.

i had 20 grand in, so that made a nice profit, worth taking out.

i still may jump back in if it looks good, but my schedule doesnt allow for much trading this week so that comes in to play.

if it is a scam, the guy is nuts to be so blatant.

then again there was a tv station that actually took to the air with these famous people on it and that was a scam... [Wink]

and wally, if i could figure it out, then id probably not be investing in penny stocks!

~BB

ps- bigdog, did you need to spam your chart on every board? loses credibility.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Tylee, thats exactly why im still in as well. The 8000 shares i bought in June only cost me around $660. If people are still confident enough to buy in at 1.14 then i think ill hang on to my .08 shares. Its funny though, you said ONLY 6000 shares. It would cost someone nearly $7000 to match your position today, that MUST give you a nice warm fuzzy feeling eh? [Smile]
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
It is worth more ofcourse. I should have dumped at 1.55 and bought back I guess.
But it may go higher this week beforeSymbol change.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
You guys have to read the ihub board, it's unreal. Spys, sex, intrigue. It's like a cheap dimestore novel...lol
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
what's the spy and sex part?

lol...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
[Eek!] [Roll Eyes] Tex!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
what...

you wanna leave out the spy stuff?
 
Posted by Murnak on :
 
just get to free shares and then let it ride....
should be a fun week!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i was just going thru the website, and never noticed before that

1- the website is still located * waatle.com and simply masked with the cvsu.us domain name. (http://www.waatle.com/800617.html for example)

2 - all the 'asset origination' info on cvsu is actually pinched from this website:
http://www.financialservicesfacts.org/financial2/securities/assetbacked/?table_s ort_651660=2

and by pinched i mean actively linked from that site.


i think ill put in a call tomorrow to that firm and see if they have some kind of affiliation, if they know that their content is being redirected to the cvsu site.

maybe some cross involvement. maybe not [Wink]

~BB
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
what...

you wanna leave out the spy stuff?

LMAO...YES!
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
this is going over 2 dollars?
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
what...

you wanna leave out the spy stuff?

LMAO...YES!
-------------------------------------------------
Nooooo! area 51 is a huge factor here...

[Big Grin]

Open is going to be fun....
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'm telling ya..Its unreal. We have a poster who was a material witness in an SEC fraud investigation. We have the actual CEO posting on the board with people accusing him of not being real.

Like sands through the hourglass these are the days of IHub's lives.
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Here is what is going to happen. Monday will be another big up trend day. People who bought into this stock on last Tuesday and Wednesday took out good profits on Thursday and Friday. I don?t blame them at all so did I. But due to the 3-day rule on unsettled funds on cash accounts a lot of these traders could not reenter. On Monday much cash will be available to flow back into FHAL. With so few shares available, anyone who wishes to jump on FHAL tomorrow needs to take a large dose of Dramamine in the morning. Fast spikes up and down will occur and if you have a weak heart or easily become sea sick this will not be for you.
Like many of you I have done my DD and spent hours searching different boards for information. Everything so far looks great and is only getting better.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
i don't listen to pumper how high this stock will go for some one than buy tomorrow at 1.14 ? it will go over 2 dollar ?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:

Nooooo! area 51 is a huge factor here...

[Big Grin]

Open is going to be fun.... [/qb]

Area 51?
Lookin forward to Monday...let's make bank!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Xarlor
HSM Newbie


Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 19 Information on Georgia Aerospace and proof of contracts, since there was some question earlier regarding contracts. Don't just take my word for it, follow the links, do your own DD, and come up with your own conclusions.

Now, on to the DD:

Gerogia Aerospace is a subcontractor for the Air Force's Flexible Acquisition and Sustainment tool (FAST) program.

From http://fast.hill.af.mil/usersguide.html (a military website - Air Force).

The scope and nature of the FAST program is to provide for the acquisition of sustainment support of Air Force managed Weapon Systems, Subsystems and Support Systems utilizing D/TOs under Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (ID/IQ) Contracts awarded to prime contractor teams. These contractor teams may provide technical and professional services, modifications, spares for modifications and critical, limited and contingency spares and repairs.

At http://fast.hill.af.mil/primes_subcontractors.html you can download two spreadsheets, FAST Primes & Subcontractors - 9 Sept 2005 and FAST MTC Subcontractors - 9 Sept 2005. Each of these list all the subcontractors on the FAST program.

From the listings, we learn that Georgia Aerospace is a subcontractor for the prime company MTC Technologies http://www.mtctechnologies.com/

Stock Ticker: NASDAQ®: MTCT
Current Price:Last: 20.45
Change: -0.57

So there you have it, proof of government contracts. Keep in mind, this is only one aspect of what is listed on CVSU's website. CVSU claims that Georgia Aerospace (AISS) also has dealings with Lockheed and the F-22, F-35 programs, stealth bombers, tanks, destroyers, subs, and choppers. The proof above is simply for the weapons systems the Air Force uses (read: missles).

What does this all mean? IMO, as long as there is **** to blow up in the world, Georgia Aerospace has a potential continued contract in at least one field.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
i don't listen to pumper how high this stock will go for some one than buy tomorrow at 1.14 ? it will go over 2 dollar ?


 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I don't mean to be rude, but I have no idea what this post means...

quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
i don't listen to pumper how high this stock will go for some one than buy tomorrow at 1.14 ? it will go over 2 dollar ?



 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
i know some of you made some money so far on this but my question is if anybody buy tomorrow at 1.14 could we expect 2 dollar soon?

this question is for some one than want to buy tomorrow and at least sell there shares at 2 dollars ?

[ July 23, 2006, 21:02: Message edited by: dollar13 ]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Still confused dollar13...but if you are lookin' to get in and want someone else to tell you to do so...then you shouldn't play...you get in because YOU did your DD and you think that it will...

I am in and my last buy was at 1.03...if that is what you are wanting to know...

Do i think that it will go to $2? That would be nice but I am not going to say that it for sure will..."RUFAS" Claims it's going to $15...

GLTY!
 
Posted by Braindamaged on :
 
I believe that your question is ment that if you bought in at 1.14 could you expect to see 2 dollars soon.

My personal opinion is that the PPS will move higher. The next couple of days will be a quick ride up and down so it should be a good time to flip. However if we get some good PR's we will move past the 2 dollar mark and maybe see higher levels yet.

Only invest what you feel comfortable with. I believe that this will be a wild ride.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
thanks 10 and brain , sound too risky at this time but i will wait for tuesday .
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
i was just going thru the website, and never noticed before that

1- the website is still located * waatle.com and simply masked with the cvsu.us domain name. (http://www.waatle.com/800617.html for example)

2 - all the 'asset origination' info on cvsu is actually pinched from this website:
http://www.financialservicesfacts.org/financial2/securities/assetbacked/?table_s ort_651660=2

and by pinched i mean actively linked from that site.

DD and sharing DD is very improtant but this is really rather useless info. waatle. com is just the original location where the information was posted when they created the new web site they just linked the old page on the old site. I have seen this and done this for companies a hundred times, it just saves development time and money.

Same goes for your comments on "pinching" info. The official term is "screen scraping". It is an artificial form of creating dynamic data. They scrape the dynamic tables off of another site so they do not need to keep the data updated themselves. Once again saving development dollars. Everyone used to screen scrape Yahoo news until they just started syndicating it with XML. Now you just sign up for RSS and you can repost practically the entire Yahoo site.

The only thing Conversion might be doing is posting data without permission and breaking a few minor copyright laws. Your inquiry may just force them to take the page down, or add a link and credit to the originating sites.I did notice however the tables seem to be "screen scraped" on the finacial services website too. So in fact they may not care because they may not have permission either.

There is nothing majorly illegal or remotely strange regarding either of these findings. Now if you find pages hosted on the QBID website or Cornell Capital by all means alert the world.

Keep up the good DD it does create questions and we should always question the true value and safety of our investments.

Thanks,
TB
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
thx TaxBack.

i can completely see why a company with an upcoming $15 pps would need to 'screen scrape' (just a minor copyright violation) and save all that development time & money.

they probably just want to use the waatle info & reputation to ride on waatle's credibility.

oh, and that wasnt dynamic data they scraped.


~BB
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
BB..."pinched" "screen-scrape" irony...

gurrrrrrl, you got it goin on.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Strange conversation. Any debate is good I guess. Taxback, you must be a web developer.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
i don't know where this is going, too risky .

take you profit and get out....

my opinion.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
lol, based on all the DD you did by asking us what you should do, you are now convinced that we should get out? Thanks for the advice buddy, but I think I'll follow my own DD here.
 
Posted by stocks1984 on :
 
sorry dont know if this was already mentioned, but did anyone noticed the golden cross? the MA(50) crossed the MA(200).. sounds bullish to me? Dont know if this will go up on Monday but this could stay as a play for the short term. JMHO, could be wrong
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/goldencross.asp
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
i know dd of FHAL , i am saying this for people than want to get in it is too risky you know.
maybe i am wrong hope you guys get to the 2 dollars
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
The Golden Cross is always a welcome sight, in my opinion, but the value of charting this thing may be low. I really like the outlook of this stock, and I am in heavy (for me), it's just that this thing is so wild right now that anything can happen and charts can't predict that. Personally, I will set a sell order around $15 and hope to God it works out. My pregnant wife would like a new house with a nursery [Smile]
 
Posted by stocks1984 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
The Golden Cross is always a welcome sight, in my opinion, but the value of charting this thing may be low. I really like the outlook of this stock, and I am in heavy (for me), it's just that this thing is so wild right now that anything can happen and charts can't predict that. Personally, I will set a sell order around $15 and hope to God it works out. My pregnant wife would like a new house with a nursery [Smile]

you might be right but check out the golden cross with the MA(15) and MA(50). Thats when the trend occured for this stock
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I have been building web apps and applications longer than I can remember. As for companys that 'screen scrape'? It is very common, and not considered the felony that it actually is. Google does a little bit of it on every site that they index and their share price is much greater than $15.

As for wattel. com if you go to the web site url it brings you directly to the cvsu.us web site, and the executive bio's are written like the name of Conversion is still Wattel. Not much of a secret that they did not spend along time changing the company identiy on the site.

This is a strange debate... it has little to do with this company's stock. Here is a not so equal example BB. The "Personal" link on the Nextel's website takes you to the URL

http://www.sprint.com/personal/

If you need examples of large brand name companies screen scraping I am sure I could scratch up a few. Stock tickers are one of the most common forms.
 
Posted by Braindamaged on :
 
Dollar

I have flipped FHAL twice and now own only free shares. For me it is not much of a risk. I am happy with a much lower profit than you seem to be looking for. However if it gets up to thatr level I will gladly take the money.

If you plan on making 50 or 100% on each of your investments while holding onto them for a short time then you are much better at this than anyone I know.

I would advise only the people that have done thier own DD on FHAL and get into it if it fits their trading style and comfort level.

I am in but will not advise any close friends to invest as that is a way to loose friends with any stocks you pick.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
like i said before, i will wait for tuesday i want
to make some money out this too, i just want to see how MM drive this thing tomorrow DOWN OR UP .

then will see." stand by"
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Thanks dollar13, hope your next play is a gold mine...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
taxback, you can stop trying to rationalize cvsu's "pinching" of another website's information as their own.

google is a search engine. it 'caches' other web pages. and sprint/nextel are the same company.

puhleeze.
cvsu is copying the INSURANCE INFORMATION INSTITUTE (a for-profit info site) not its own company.
(http://www.financialservicesfacts.org/financial2/securities/assetbacked/?table_ sort_651660=2)

not pertinent? well surely it is the best that $843 million in capital can buy (or screen-scrape) [Wink]

i think ive made my point here. you can continue your web development / copyright infringement lesson for others if you wish...
i do believe you may have missed the point?

g'nite all!

~BB

[ July 24, 2006, 00:17: Message edited by: betting babe ]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I do remember that When Symantec bought Veritas the Veritas url went straight to Symantecs site. I never thought there was a problem with that. The pinching thing is not a big deal in my opinion, but proper credit should be given.
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Since Fridays closing bell over 65 hours has passed and hundreds of people have done some deep DD. So far nobody has found any flaws in FHAL merger deal. This is the real deal, looking for a great week. GTLA
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
this is going over 2 dollars?

You might be correct. About 10:30ish this morning is the end of a two day pennant.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Good Morning Board ~
Yes I too can find nothing "bad" about this, and I'm thinking this is going to be the longest week of my life! ha ~ GLTA
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
Good morning all from sunny (Miami Vice) Miami. In anticipation of a dreamy $15 pps end of week. Lets keep the buying pressure on this bad boy, but be smart and flip when you have to in the interest of protecting your capital.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
5 x 1.14

1 x 1.145
2 x 1.15
 
Posted by stocks1984 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocks1984:
sorry dont know if this was already mentioned, but did anyone noticed the golden cross? the MA(50) crossed the MA(200).. sounds bullish to me? Dont know if this will go up on Monday but this could stay as a play for the short term. JMHO, could be wrong
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/goldencross.asp

lets see if this has any effect with the pps from the chart perspective
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
looks like a gapper this morning ~
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Gapping 1.17 x 1.18.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
The early gap could break FHAL out of the two day penant.

My fingers crossed.
 
Posted by stocks1984 on :
 
sirens sirens! going up
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
gapping UP!! now 1.20 X 1.205 and rising!!
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
Look at it go, holy crap why did I sell so much last Friday for lower??? I'm back in today but hopefully won't have to chase
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
now 1.225 X 1.23!!! 2 BUCKS is just the start!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Oh boy, that gap is growing. I hope thats a good sign and we can hold it!
 
Posted by Braindamaged on :
 
L2's looking strong. MM's are scramblimg. Might be trying to grab shares to cover their short positions as the time is getting shorter to be able to do so.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
glad I got in
 
Posted by portman on :
 
The beach is comfortable here...The bar deck overlooking the pool is fantastic .... now if FHAL can have a fantastic day.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Goodmorning. Looks like a very good day. I hope we break $2.00.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Peaser..where are you seeing resistance?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
This topic is tapped out, but BB if you really wanted to make a point you could point out that with $843M in capital this company paid less than 5K for their website based on the content and graphics posted.

But even this point makes no sense. They have very little need to spend important dollars on a web site except to communicate with us online investors. Since until this month they were privately held this wasn't even a major focus. So they slapped some pages on an old web server, and put a new logo on them. Heck they are even attempting to place a crapy Flash site up to wow a few investors.

I give them a C- for web site effort but honestly I am not investing in a web site. This company may or may not be legit but you are not going to be able to tell it from the pitiful online brochure they hosted just for you.

1.22 Gap nice... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
I'm holding my shares until at least tomorrow.

1.57 Resistance 10 of Wonders IMO.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thank you kind sir!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I like how this is moving on low vol. No float comments could be true with this activity.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
You are very welcome me lady.
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
I was going over some of the prs and I found this quote form the july 12th pr that I am a little confused on.

"Attention CVSU Shareholders, Note Holders and Option Holders; Please see
Shareholder update on our website, www.cvsu.us. Each individual will be
required to complete the Form of Affiliate to achieve share exchange under
the Merger Agreement."

Is it saying that we, fhal shareholders, will need to complete this form? I can't find the "Shareholder Update" section on the website. Am I blind or is it just not there yet?
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
That is for current CVSU shareholders IMO. We own FHAL.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey Ten, I see a little resistance at $15.00. JMO [Big Grin] [Wink]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
1.40! Whooo Hooo!!! Lets move!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Hey Ten, I see a little resistance at $15.00. JMO [Big Grin] [Wink]

LMAO...Lookin for a "dip"...need some more...but I am not chasin'...

$15 will work..AFTER I load up some more!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
yes!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
$2.00 run?....... WOW people want this!!!!
 
Posted by stockstar on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
That is for current CVSU shareholders IMO. We own FHAL.

ok, thanks. Just wanted to make sure. I'm leaving tomorrow to backpack through Europe and I wanted to make sure I didn't have to sign anything for this merger.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Several thousand shares at 1.3650, and then again at 1.40, and then again at 1.44...

In four cent increments this could take a while.

Oh well I am willing to wait. [Cool]
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Out 1.43 +.38 - lookin for the dip.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
ask for a dip and you shall recieve [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
ya'll think that $1.37 was it? usually with those big dips it's a bit quicker that this...seems to be holding?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Well with a $15 Friday coming I think it should hold! ha ~
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
flippers now ~
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
ha...nevermind...just took a little longer this time...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
go ahead everyone who needs to flip. Get it out of your system so we can go on to 2.00.

Jo
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
OK are we about done with the latest sell off? I plan on doing my flip alot higher so let's get climbing.
 
Posted by Braindamaged on :
 
No many shares in the float so FHAL will go up and down as the MM's will keep moving it with only the shares they can aquire rather than what they hold.

I have flipped this stock twice and hold only free shares so I will sit on mine so that the MM's can't touch them for a few days
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
The two days last week when it ran, it ran for about 2 hours with some minor pullbacks along the way, so I'm not sure what to expect today.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Flippers.. I love the flippers...but they need to move on now that I have fed.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Possible bounce 1.30 IMO.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Hey Ten, I see a little resistance at $15.00. JMO [Big Grin] [Wink]

LMAO...Lookin for a "dip"...need some more...but I am not chasin'...

$15 will work..AFTER I load up some more!

-------------------------------------------------
just realised, still have toothbrush in mouth...
you can call me flipper now! Wow!!!

just don't call me late for these runners.
took profits at $1.44 [Big Grin]
 
Posted by portman on :
 
I just gargle in the ocean Dust [Wink]
 
Posted by Braindamaged on :
 
Dustoff

Congrats on your profits. As you know all stocks go through their ups and downs and it is the wise man that is able to make some good cash if you can play it right.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
ask is moving up...ubss just moved as well...
 
Posted by Braindamaged on :
 
We seem to have settled into the 1.13 range after some selling off from some flippers. Profit is profit so hope the flippers made some good cash.
Lets see this get some upward buying pressure and get back to the HOD
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Anyone having trouble with etrade? I can't get into their site...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
$1.13?
 
Posted by Braindamaged on :
 
Correction make that the 1.33 range
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
With a dried up float swings should be quicker, the climb faster...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'm in my newly discovered Power E*Trade Pro just fine...didn't realize they were free...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
just wish I knew more about the L2's to benefit at the moment...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Volume is low, alot is being held. This is waiting on some news. Anything merger related will send this straight up.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
have to LOVE a dried of float !
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Movin' again...let's break through the 1.40s...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Look at that it is trying to sneek back into the 1.40 range. Sweet... [Cool]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
dry er up people!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
lotta activity around here...ton a buys...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
has to break 1.43!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I just spoke with The Providence Office of Scottrade. The guy was actually a little rude to me, like I was wasting his time. He said "Everybody else in the world must be stupid if you have a $15 stock trading at $1.33 and their not buying it" I said "I guess they are then".
After that nice little exchange he finally answered my question about trading. He said, basically, that we will be able to trade once Scottrade gets the electronic certs through the DTCC. He has no idea when that will happen, but he said that Scottrade should be right in line with everyone else.
Not very helpful, but at least I got an answer.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
As soon as you got off the phone with him, he called his wife to buy some [Smile]

Jo
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
what are the blues and yellows for on E*Trade in the L2's?
 
Posted by Braindamaged on :
 
I was holding only free shares. Went in for more shares since these free shares have some good profit in them. Doing my share to keep the float down and try to make some good bank on this.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
nice BIG buys.... whoa ~
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
5000 buy just went through at 1.399
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
what are you considering big? 3100 is the biggest in the last couple minutes...
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
what are the blues and yellows for on E*Trade in the L2's?

Color ranges on the bid and asks - you can change them - right click on the L2 box and select color ranges.
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
At least the bashers seem to be at bay today which is always a good sign.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
what are you considering big? a couple of 5000 just went through though...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
saw a 12,xxx something roll thru too....
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
what are the blues and yellows for on E*Trade in the L2's?

Color ranges on the bid and asks - you can change them - right click on the L2 box and select color ranges.
oh yeah...look at that...sorry for the ignorant question, lol...i've had them for all of 20min...
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
As soon as you got off the phone with him, he called his wife to buy some [Smile]

Jo

hahaha u know it!!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Basher's only come out when the stock is doing bad, or they want a good entry point! [Big Grin] [Razz]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
The bashers will be here on any relatively good sized dip they see trying to scare you out of your money.

quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Basher's only come out when the stock is doing bad, or they want a good entry point! [Big Grin] [Razz]


 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
ya and his wife said ,,what a nice guy to give you that stock tip,,,10+ bagger at15$
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
What's to bash?... I mean really...
I even had dear old momma open an account! Got her in at .985! [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Go Momma!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Common with the merger news Rufas... try and tie it to todays top story.

Computer graphics chip maker ATI Technologies Inc. has embraced a $5.4-billion US cash-and-stock takeover offer from Advanced Micro Devices.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
more game playing.. selling below bid to scare. LMAO ~
 
Posted by Braindamaged on :
 
It's off to work for me. Good luck to all today in the FHAL world
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
EOD run?... Or morning JAM with my toast? lol
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah it seems pretty static right here...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Good morning all!!! [Wink]
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by shomethamoney:
At least the bashers seem to be at bay today which is always a good sign.

Probably trying to cover their short arses!
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
Well Doniboy, I contacted Scottrade and my answer was this "If your worried about the buyer, your option is to sell now before the merger. FHAL is still trading."
Not the answer I was looking for so I will have to call them. They are not making me happy!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
That's because these jerky brokers don't believe that OTC stocks are real stocks, and they don't believe that anyone who asks them questions could know about a good thing before they do. Make sure to call them back after the merge to ask them Capital Gains questions. That should go up their butt a mile.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Jeesh, the Scottrade reps in your area should be fired, I called my rep in Salt Lake City and he was way cool. He said with the symbol change it shouldn't take any more than a day to be able to trade. JMO
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
What's the real time price.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
1.36
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Question:

The 10-k is due out tomorrow or at the latest thursday, correct?

I believe this will start the buying again. They will not allow this above the 1.50 range until then. JMO
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
He's probably a Mormon and has to be nice or the Church excommunicates him...lol.

quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Jeesh, the Scottrade reps in your area should be fired, I called my rep in Salt Lake City and he was way cool. He said with the symbol change it shouldn't take any more than a day to be able to trade. JMO


 
Posted by CRab on :
 
some bigger buys going through now...

all at 1.36
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Make sure to call them back after the merge to ask them Capital Gains questions. That should go up their butt a mile.

AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA that would be nice!!!!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Jeesh, the Scottrade reps in your area should be fired, I called my rep in Salt Lake City and he was way cool. He said with the symbol change it shouldn't take any more than a day to be able to trade. JMO

I got the same exact info from my local Scottrade office in Pasadena, CA. One day. They will do it electronically and won't have to wait for physical certs to arrive.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
He's probably a Mormon and has to be nice or the Church excommunicates him...lol.

quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Jeesh, the Scottrade reps in your area should be fired, I called my rep in Salt Lake City and he was way cool. He said with the symbol change it shouldn't take any more than a day to be able to trade. JMO


Yea right if he was I would understand him being rude! LMAO [Big Grin]
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
So if everything is the same in about 30 minutes we will see a dip where the bid will exceed the ask. We will see.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
HOD running.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Does anyone else get the feeling that something REALLY BIG is going on and we don't know YET! Just a feeling and opinion.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
1.49 is huge at the moment...

oh well...backed off...
 
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
 
daytraders dream.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Going to $15... How much bigger could it be?!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
we'll see $2 today.... IMO
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
well there are 7 mm's on the ask at 1.50 and building...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
The last couple of PR's have been out just after the bell, I wouldn't be suprised if we see one today after the bell. MM's really don't want us above 1.5, but WHEN we break that barrier we'll really start moving. JMHO
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
could test it here...
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
This thing is climbing so fast, it is hard to get away from my computer.....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
not bad for the SLOW part of the day huh? hehe ~~
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
run baby run... I want to see a 1.60 fly past soo bad that I am going to ry and screen shot it for my laptop wallpaper.
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Tick Tock - it's going to fly - people are going to wish they had gotten in.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
1.60 building
 
Posted by R1 Man on :
 
WOW..............$1.56
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
stall at 1.56
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
The hill is steep...she just needs to take a lil ole break then it's ful steam ahead !!! yeeaah [Wink]
 
Posted by icraig21 on :
 
$1.60, lets put it in our rearview
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I do not remember where I first heard about FHAL. It may have been on this board. If anyone knows who began giving us info on this stock, please let me know. I certainly would like to THANK them!!!
 
Posted by icraig21 on :
 
I ment the other way
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
52-Week High Baby !!!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Out at 1.56 +.22 - this is a cash machine. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Another bounce and it bounces of a higher low every time. Let's fly now.
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
MM QUIN is really playing hard today, I'm thinking he's working for shorts, LOL
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
MM's are outa shares, this is going to fly baby!!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Man, was I wrong. I was looking for that lunchtime dip to buy more.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...it's an inverted lunchtime dip...
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
This is consolidating nicely in the 1.50 range, that'll be great support for the next shot up
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wow, yep $2 today is looking good!
 
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
 
Why is this running in the under .10 thread?
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
It sure would make me happy if it CLOSES around 1.50....
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by IMAKEMONEY:
Why is this running in the under .10 thread?

well it was under .10 before the run.
 
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
 
OH i know, but do you think its going back?
 
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
 
Its time for .11 and UP!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Don't change a thing......................... Leave it RIGHT HERE!
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
if you change it you will jinx it like paiv!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
There's another FHAL thread on the Hot stocks board...leave this one here...and just check both...
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
You can't jinx FHAL, we have good'ole Rufus Harris as a lucky charm, LOL
 
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
 
lol
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Man, we are not superstisious here are we. I have been wearing the same underwear since the run started. [Eek!]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
LMAO!!!!!!!
 
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
 
roflmao
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
We may be movin' again!!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
hit a wall at 1.56
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
where are the bashers? Haha - lol they couldn't hold it down!!! I wonder whose board they are bashing today. Glad they gave it a rest here.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Shome the bashers can't take it when they are wrong. LMAO
 
Posted by 1cent on :
 
Man i'm not in this but it's funny to see all the bashers last month...whoever bought this last month and held is laughing all the way to the bank right now.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
damn, looking at chart.. and it's being bought up sooooo much today.. geeez.. seems very much like a major cover
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
A nice and steady climb. NO gaps and they are back filling nicely.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
volume is like 6.7mil and OBV is +5.3mil.. isn't that nice? so many buys..
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Does anyone have the total trade count for today so far??
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
6,872,000 in 4190 trades
 
Posted by jos_tul on :
 
6.878 Mill
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
go go go!2$
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Hannibull,

Where do you get the trade information. Etrade doesn't have it, I don't believe.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so no new DD for today? seems like speculation and questions seems to have dried up?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
1.52 falling

1.54 building
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
the only question left is.... RED or Blue Corvette? LMAO ~~~
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
very green here!!!ticker change?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????SOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Should see $2 in no time ~ (no float!)
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
any color as long as it's black...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Hey Crab,

ON etrade how can you tell a sell versus a buy? Sorry for the dumb question.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
the only question left is.... RED or Blue Corvette? LMAO ~~~

both? =)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
his & hers... ha ha ~
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
Hey Crab,

ON etrade how can you tell a sell versus a buy? Sorry for the dumb question.

in the l2's sells are red and buys are green...but you can change the colors to what ever...those are just the defaults
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
Hannibull,

Where do you get the trade information. Etrade doesn't have it, I don't believe.

I have TD Ameritrade and the quote streamer has a function called "Streamer Actives" which shows you the most traded stocks for the day. FHAL is today's most traded OTCBB stock (again) and it shows 4356 trades so far today
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
Hey Crab,

ON etrade how can you tell a sell versus a buy? Sorry for the dumb question.

in the l2's sells are red and buys are green...but you can change the colors to what ever...those are just the defaults
More importantly. How do I access L2's on my etrade account?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
amd!!???no!no!no!go FHAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
CRAB,

Do u have the "Show Trade Ticker" clicked on. Its funny, I didn't even know I had this until you mentioned it today.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Rael,

Do you have a power etrade account. If you click on the Accounts tab it should be on the right hand side.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
it depends on your trading history...so many trades and it's free...otherwise you gotta pay...

but on the main screen it'll have power etrade off to the side...just click and follow instructions...
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
awsome close toDAY!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
CRAB,

Do u have the "Show Trade Ticker" clicked on. Its funny, I didn't even know I had this until you mentioned it today.

yep sure do...it gives me the current trades real time but not a total # of trades...

and it's kinda funny...i've been a power etrade customer for like two months now and never realized I could use this stuff, lol...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Man, we are not superstisious here are we. I have been wearing the same underwear since the run started. .....
But you keep turning them inside out each day right!!!! LOL [Wink]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Come on BABY break the 1.6 barrier!!!!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
IF I am reading the ticker right then there is a whole heck of more buys going through than sells.

And it is moving slow. Could be a controled buyback by the MMs.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
not so sure about the buyback...but they usually show a bunch of buys then sells...at least thats what i've noticed in the three hours i've been usig it, lol...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
luvforever,

I don't know though if the wife will be willing to wash them after this. I'll just throw some $$$$ at her and she won't mind. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
wow, climbing pretty fast.. are they letting it go? covered enough for this level already?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
1.59 falling
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Can anyone tell what the ratio of buys to sells is???
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
LOL she'll just buy ya some new ones with $$$'s on them [Wink]
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
the only question left is.... RED or Blue Corvette? LMAO ~~~

Neither. Go with green, cuz with FHAL thats gonna be your new favorite color
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
love days like this!
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
should have great eod, anticipation of tuesday news is on the rise, no one wants to be left behind........ [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
We're going to break $1.60 right now!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
There she is!!! 1.60!
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Fantastic!!!
 
Posted by icraig21 on :
 
my god, what a rush, and even more to come
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
1.60 who?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Does anyone have the ratio of buy to sell for today.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I got my 1.60 wallpaper... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Holy crap I think we're going to move again!!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I'm thinking 1.69 for a close today.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
$2 before close!!!!!!IMO
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
goody goody GOOD!!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Cass,

If it hits two for a close I will send you money for a case of beer.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Geeze, what about me ??? I only got 2800 shares fry? ;(
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
Cass,

If it hits two for a close I will send you money for a case of beer.

DEAL!!! [Wink]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Is it too much to ask ppl to stop flipping so I can get my 1.70 screen shot. This is a good green day, and thinking it is going to get even better.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
LUV,

My wife says that you can have the undies!!!! [Wink] [Eek!]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Geeze thanks!!!!!! Tell her thanks [Wink]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I talked too soon 1.50 is slipping.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
Geeze thanks!!!!!! Tell her thanks [Wink]

congrats Luv...better you than me...LMAO!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
back up everyone push or load up the fuel in the engine we can do it!!! I think we can!!! LOL
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Looks to me there is a lot of mirror trades that are going through.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
BID and ASK are at 1.54 but the price is at 1.50???
 
Posted by SuperSniper00 on :
 
just saw a 411 and 911 trade...does that mean anything?? we'll see
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
game time..., yawn. I'M LOOOOONG!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Someone really wants this back under 1.50. I don't think they got enough stones to force it for good, but if they do. Watch out this thing my slingshot so fast it will take your nose off on the way back up.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
price is at 1.471
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
This may be the last time you see these prices IMO
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SuperSniper00:
just saw a 411 and 911 trade...does that mean anything?? we'll see

People on IHUB are doing that!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
how sad, people trying to scare other people out of shares....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I still say $2 by close
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
RUFUS! RUFUS! RUFUS!!!!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
how sad, people trying to scare other people out of shares....

maybe MM's just shorting more, since it's at a high level.. i'm sure they have ways of covering it again ..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
RUFUS! RUFUS! RUFUS!!!!!

LMAO...
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
It's been a great day today. Be happy with where it is. A PR will come out soon and it will be rested and ready to run again.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
I still say $2 by close

i would edit my post if i was u
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Shake
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
edit post? With a PR coming out, and this being the most traded stock "again" who would want to wait ti AFTER opening to buy back in?...
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
MM games, scare all the greedy investors into selling........ typical
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
tons a people selling...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
A little more and maybe start BUYING some more!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Let them sell I am scrapping together funds for another buy order. Would be my first above a dollar but I doubt we will be close to these levels ever again.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
edit post? With a PR coming out, and this being the most traded stock "again" who would want to wait ti AFTER opening to buy back in?...

4 letters

xkem

u do the math with ( new pr comming, most traded stock...u catch my drift)

im still holding so to help you not using the word basher =]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
XKEM have a $15 merger waiting? [Smile]
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Should hold this 1.35 area.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
XKEM have a $15 merger waiting? [Smile]

no but they had a drug that was going to blow the price out the roof...projections projections...we can wish for a merger, until then this is what we have.
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
xkem's had its run, PAIM is the next big run IMO...Fhal is going to be up and down like this until the ticker change, and then who really knows whats going to happen except rufus...
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
xkem, 10 billion shares ??? dunno ~
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
"Wish for?" hey not knocking ya, but you do know we have one, signed, -right?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Xkem had no 8K verifying what they said either.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Stock...did anyone find a verification from any SCD orginizations here in the states? that is was stops me from gettin' back in that one...

right now FHAL IS movin'....

Let's go baby!
We may not close at HOD...but we are going to close green!!! ( I hope)
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yayplaya:
xkem's had its run, PAIM is the next big run IMO...Fhal is going to be up and down like this until the ticker change, and then who really knows whats going to happen except rufus...

i just wanted to stress the last part EXCEPT RUFUS
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I'm just waiting for JUICE to post some news!! I just have a feeling that some news is coming today. JMO
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
I'd rather see a few more days of steady gains, then we get some good news.

Steady gains + news = Explosion
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
I'd rather see a few more days of steady gains, then we get some good news.

Steady gains + news = Explosion

In most cases I would agree, but Rufus made it very clear that they have a lot of news to post. With each PR I see us breaking new highs, and by the time of the ticker change $15 won't seem that big. This is just my opinion. [Smile]
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
I'd rather see a few more days of steady gains, then we get some good news.

Steady gains + news = Explosion

that equation isnt always right sadly enough, not here at least
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
this is setting up MAJOR EOD RUN!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
In the home turn... Let's see what she does ~
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
yeah i think xkem proved that equation wrong and ipre
 
Posted by icraig21 on :
 
Would love to see it close at HOD
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
yeah i think xkem proved that equation wrong and ipre
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
XKEM was a good lesson for most anyone that was in it....my husband is STILL fussing at me for not selling in the higher numbers....who knew though...
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
XKEM rite now has a good potential for some good gains.. also ACMG is setting up for another cycle run.. but i think the next big one pending is FGFC, b/c of massive buybacks..
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
NEWS - A -COMING mayby a blitzzz!!! buy up eat dust!!
 
Posted by ruiz on :
 
hey TMONEY what's up!!! Looks like we will be making a little more Today!!! Whatch out for the "gold diggers" Cause they ain't messin with no broke broke
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
We may have a huge dip comin'...hold on....
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
hush 10!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
HUSH!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
We may have a huge dip comin'...hold on....

WHATEVER 10! [Wink]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
NEWS - A -COMING mayby a blitzzz!!! buy up eat dust!!

today?!?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
OK...I'll hush! LMAO!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
after hours i hope!!!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hopefully good news and after hours hahaha
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
XKEM rite now has a good potential for some good gains.. also ACMG is setting up for another cycle run.. but i think the next big one pending is FGFC, b/c of massive buybacks..

I am only playing 1 other stock than FHAL. WWEN, tomorrow we are suppose to have VERY BIG news. Look in to it. NO BRAINER!! If I'm wrong let me know at the end of this week!!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Don't Hush 10, I heard she's hot.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
i'd like to see 1.75 1.80$
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hot as is looks or hot as in stock predictions
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
BOTH! [Wink] LMAO...
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
single or married
 
Posted by ruiz on :
 
Tmoney your such a typical male
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
children...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
like six right?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
nipplesgettinghard on FHAL!!! GRIN!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
BOTH! [Wink] LMAO...

Hey 10, no disrespect here, but would you consider yourself a MILF! [Wink] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ruiz on :
 
here we are sitting on a possilbe small gold mine and still women are on your mind
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
10 is this board's definition of Super Mom ;-)
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
i didnt say if i was a male or a female, i might be pat off of the old SNL, anyway looks like its creeping up a bit
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
BIG YES!!!! gottalove the cuRVES!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruiz:
here we are sitting on a possilbe small gold mine and still women are on your mind

haha...boobies make the world go round...

(juvenile comment mode off)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
You go girl! [Smile]
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey lets not turn into some sick porn site, lets get back to the stock talk now, anybody got a myspace account?
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
quote:
Originally posted by ruiz:
here we are sitting on a possilbe small gold mine and still women are on your mind

haha...boobies make the world go round...

(juvenile comment mode off)

What kinda bee's make milk ??

BOOBEE'S
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
OMG NO!!!! FACEBOOK IS SOOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER!!!!

Go FHAL!

(i'm really a 14 y/o girl)
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
10 is this board's definition of Super Mom ;-)

Thanks Sherri...I'll take that...LOL..

MILF...that's what the kids friends say...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
quote:
Originally posted by ruiz:
here we are sitting on a possilbe small gold mine and still women are on your mind

haha...boobies make the world go round...

(juvenile comment mode off)

What kinda bee's make milk ??

BOOBEE'S

LMAO!!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
RUUUFFFFF!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Oh Yeah...movin' up nice...I am likin' it!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
up up and AWAY!!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
facebook youve got to be in school to have an account, myspace is for out of schoolers and schoolers, way to go 10 that is a good complement, we call them cougars not milfs down here.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
OMG...... About time! HOD is right around the corner!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
1.55 is stacked pretty good...1.60 after that...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
10 is this board's definition of Super Mom ;-)

Thanks Sherri...I'll take that...LOL..

MILF...that's what the kids friends say...

10 your kid's friends are preverts, HAHA!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
I haven't heard the term MILF since we left the Air Force....

Is the general concensus here that we should at least see $2-$3 this week here? (strictly opinion, I am holding either way...I can't be wrong THAT many times)
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
10 is this board's definition of Super Mom ;-)

Thanks Sherri...I'll take that...LOL..

MILF...that's what the kids friends say...

10 your kid's friends are preverts, HAHA!! [Big Grin]
Orrrrrr, this was 10's way of answering that question....without really answering it. Smart gal that 10. [Wink]
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
10of13 is my mom god damn it...i dont want to see any hornyness arround here
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
whats a prevert, is that a soon to be pervert
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I could make a juvenile comment about being stacked, but I'll refrain.

quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
1.55 is stacked pretty good..


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
10of13 is my mom god damn it...i dont want to see any hornyness arround here

LMAO...Mwuuuaaahhhh... [Wink]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I thought today we might see $2, -not going off a chart just flapping my gums [Smile]

It wants to go....
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
10of13 is my mom god damn it...i dont want to see any hornyness arround here

LMAO...Mwuuuaaahhhh... [Wink]
roar
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
1.54 on the ask lets go show me the money
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
I haven't heard the term MILF since we left the Air Force....

Is the general concensus here that we should at least see $2-$3 this week here? (strictly opinion, I am holding either way...I can't be wrong THAT many times)

Haha, only funny because you seem to find the humor in it! [Smile]

I think you were on that ride with me over at xkem so you are probably as skeptical as I am in this. I do feel $2 is possible, but it almost seems we will need a bit of PR to move it there.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
whats a prevert, is that a soon to be pervert

No it's a PREEEVERT!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
just fell...
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
get that 60
 
Posted by ruiz on :
 
I feel like the jeffersons......Movin' on up!!!!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
She's about to blow. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
She's about to blow. [Big Grin]

who?
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
i was on that ride with SherriT on the xkem and i am just a little skeptical myself, just get me enough and i will drop it like its hot,
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
still could......
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
She's about to blow. [Big Grin]

Hey Doniboy, talk about juvenille comments! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I don't know Cat...this is movin' nice with out a PR....I'm kinda hopin' they hold off...the last PR...made it drop a tad...
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
what fell?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
First this was compared to NDOL, now that its beat that it is getting compared to XKEM. This is FHAL and soon to be CVSU, nothing more, nothing less.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Cass,

Hope you get that beer today???
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
what fell?

nothing at this point...back to that 1.54 now...
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
I haven't heard the term MILF since we left the Air Force....

Is the general concensus here that we should at least see $2-$3 this week here? (strictly opinion, I am holding either way...I can't be wrong THAT many times)

Haha, only funny because you seem to find the humor in it! [Smile]

I think you were on that ride with me over at xkem so you are probably as skeptical as I am in this. I do feel $2 is possible, but it almost seems we will need a bit of PR to move it there.

Actually, I try to find the humor in almost any situation. I am so new to trading that I expect to make mistakes, but that the law of averages usually turns in my favor, and that time is about now. I'll get better, and one day, I will be as reliable as some of the others around here at predicting...

XKEM was a disappointment to me on the last run, but I didn't lose any money, and I came away with a good lesson about greed and falling in love with a stock, so I am OK with that [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
You have a good point there. Maybe they could release it a short time before halt so they can get a rush out of it.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Words of wisdom SherriT [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
I haven't heard the term MILF since we left the Air Force....

Is the general concensus here that we should at least see $2-$3 this week here? (strictly opinion, I am holding either way...I can't be wrong THAT many times)

Haha, only funny because you seem to find the humor in it! [Smile]

I think you were on that ride with me over at xkem so you are probably as skeptical as I am in this. I do feel $2 is possible, but it almost seems we will need a bit of PR to move it there.

Actually, I try to find the humor in almost any situation. I am so new to trading that I expect to make mistakes, but that the law of averages usually turns in my favor, and that time is about now. I'll get better, and one day, I will be as reliable as some of the others around here at predicting...

XKEM was a disappointment to me on the last run, but I didn't lose any money, and I came away with a good lesson about greed and falling in love with a stock, so I am OK with that [Roll Eyes]

I hope you didnt understand me wrong, i too am new to this trading stuff and i too know how it feels to watch it go POOF heh.
I found humor in what you said because i recognized it in myself LOL.

FHAL was meant to be a practice stock for me to kinda learn how pennies work. Im a little boggled now however.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
Cass,

Hope you get that beer today???

Me too! The only reason this dropped last PR, is because people didn't understand it. They need to read it, and do some research. XKEM dropped because the news was anti-climatic. This news is a motivator, it shows that RUFUS is doing what he said. Each PR, brings more and more credibility to his claims. [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Confidence in the 8K = Sitting around all day chatting about things other than PPS because we're not concerned.

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
yes, D & D here was easy.. ME LIKE!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
my guess for close is 1.62 anyone else????
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Confidence in the 8K = Sitting around all day chatting about things other than PPS because we're not concerned.

[Big Grin]

yeah...it's pretty funny actually...no one even cares what the current PPS is, lol...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Could an after hours PR be coming? I don't know, but they did it before.
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
SherriT check your private message
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
I'm a winner nomatter what, I get th underwear!!! hahaha [Wink]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Go FHAL, Go FHAL, its your birthday...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Oh...yeah...let's move it
C'mon baby....
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
I'm a winner nomatter what, I get th underwear!!! hahaha [Wink]

LMAO...lucky you!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I'll take a HOD [Smile]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Me too but i at least get something hehe [Wink]
Whats the call for eod?
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
we might not get a HOD but without the underwear, LUV might get HIV

go you!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'm betting EOD will be at 4:00PM
Anyone wanna bet???

quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
Me too but i at least get something hehe [Wink]
Whats the call for eod?


 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Here comes 1.62 folks???????
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
HOD coming...... [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Hmmm could make new HOD at bell, too funny
 
Posted by icraig21 on :
 
Go, Go, Go, GOOOOOO!!!!!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
lets' gooooooo only .02 more [Wink]
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
We will gap in am again, possible PR after bell, life is good
 
Posted by icraig21 on :
 
He, He, He, He, Hooooo

He, He, He, He, Hooooo
 
Posted by bmorestocks on :
 
FHAL gapper for sure!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
here it comes...
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
couple more buys and we all get HIV

i mean HOD
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Holy shnicky's!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
-and all we needed to do was talk about underwear... "who knew?" ha ha ~
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
lol * all the sells holding it down
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
underwear and 10 being so hot
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS [Smile] Hey they're mine haha
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
WOW... good day!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I love you guys and I'll chat with ya's in the PM. PEACE I'm OUT!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
WOW. just walked in.

what did you ALL take showers today?! [Big Grin]

~BB
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Thank God, I had to turn them inside out LUV for the rally. Almost had an accident. YOu can't have them yet though. Not until the run is over. But your name is on them. [Wink]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
no I was told his wife is letting me have underwear that have been worn forever and 10 is hot!! LOL
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Flippin' BEAUTIFUL!!!

Great day all...BB...no not showered yet...goin' for a dip and then a shower! Yak at ya all later...WHHOOOO HOOOO!!!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
as long as it is the run, and not the runs, hahaha
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Nice end baby. Oh yeah. My streamer says $1.62 at EOD, but my account page says $1.60. Oh well not too big a deal, but it actually is a lot of cash at this level..... [Smile]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Thanks I'ma gonna hang'em on my flag pole !!!What we should do is send em around and have everyone sign them after it's done and I will get them and hang em out!!!! I;ll give ya my address when yur ready to send them!!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'll pass on signing the used underwear man...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I'll chat later, time to take the kids to the zoo.
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey guys got an FHAL cheer,

give me an E-------E
give me an X-------x
give me an L-------L
give me an A-------A
give me an X-------X
whats that spell? EXLAX
what do we need?
runs, runs and more runs!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
15:58 25,000 * 1.63 !!! someone dropped bank.

glad i got filled this morning and it didnt skip me [Smile]
im not loaded to the bazonkers but i figured 10k shares was a safe risk.

~BB
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
So I win? Thats two days in a row.. [Wink]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Where exactly are the Bazonkers located?

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
15:58 25,000 * 1.63 !!! someone dropped bank.

glad i got filled this morning and it didnt skip me [Smile]
im not loaded to the bazonkers but i figured 10k shares was a safe risk.

~BB


 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Good luck everyone see ya all tomorrow.... [Wink]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Peace out Homeslice...

Thats my street lingo....
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
15:58 25,000 * 1.63 !!! someone dropped bank.

glad i got filled this morning and it didnt skip me [Smile]
im not loaded to the bazonkers but i figured 10k shares was a safe risk.

~BB

Welcome to the party BB, even though you filled slightly shy of the bazonkers. [Razz]
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
WOW. just walked in.

what did you ALL take showers today?! [Big Grin]

~BB

It doesn't look like your investment strategies work too well, eh? LOL Maybe next time a CEO talks about his illness you should buy more, it might work better for you, LOL
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
actually my strategy is fine tyvm atomic. i took a nice hefty profit on friday.

this weekend i reinforced my belief that something is fishy about this $15 promise. so i was glad to be out.

i spend my time as a model. im not a day trader. if it works out that i can jump in, great. and i was able to for an intended flip.

i make more money in my day job than many daytraders do in their trading week [Wink] priorities priorities.

but keep up the cocky attitude. you're sure to make friends that way.


everyone should invest when, how and what they are comfortable with.

~BB
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Good sound advice...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:

everyone should invest when, how and what they are comfortable with.

~BB

not enough people take that advice...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
everyone should invest when, how and what they are comfortable with.

What she said!

So far I've flipped this 4 times, making only reasonable profits of 30%-55% each time.

Do I sometimes look back and wish that I had just stayed in from .265? Yes. However, I have been burned too many times in the past by fast runners to do that this time, and I feel much less stressed knowing that I've taken profits here and there. So far I'm satisfied so far with my "investment strategy" in this one.

Jo
This message brought to you by
XKEM, NDOL, MGGV and STTK
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Hey Jo, 30-55% is more than reasonable, nice work.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Holy sh*t! I just got back from attending family matters. I've been in this with 6500 shares on my etrade account at an average of .2324 and haven't sold any yet. We'll see what happens tomorrow. Expect a gapper in the AM.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Guess that was a good surprise for you! WTG! See you have to have nerves of steel to hold as you do. Glad it is paying off for you!

Jo
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
Hey Jo, 30-55% is more than reasonable, nice work.

tremendous!
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Thanks Jo. Mine are made of brass but I held NDOL, XKEM and RSHN a little too long in the recent past but still made a good profit. I still am considering dumping a few tomorrow and ride the freebies. It all depends on the momentum tomorrow.
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
actually my strategy is fine tyvm atomic. i took a nice hefty profit on friday.

this weekend i reinforced my belief that something is fishy about this $15 promise. so i was glad to be out.

i spend my time as a model. im not a day trader. if it works out that i can jump in, great. and i was able to for an intended flip.

i make more money in my day job than many daytraders do in their trading week [Wink] priorities priorities.

but keep up the cocky attitude. you're sure to make friends that way.


everyone should invest when, how and what they are comfortable with.

~BB

A model? Good one, tell me another one, LOLLLLLLLL

Go FHAL!!!!
 
Posted by ruiz on :
 
anyone know when to expect a pr and can anyone give me a worst WORST case scenerio? like ive stated before this is my first trade what exactly would happen if the symbol changed and did not go $15 would I atoumatically lose everything or could I sell on the way down and still come out with a profit? I'm in at .0324. Any info would be very much appreciated
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
I held NDOL, XKEM and RSHN a little too long in the recent past but still made a good profit
DITTO! But I STILL have them. [Frown] This is why I was too chicken to hold FHAL from my original entry point.

I did take some profits from XKEM and NDOL, however, I also bought more after at high prices, so now I am averaging a loss or small profit with them both. And RSHN, watched it go to .01 and never sold any. UGH!!!

And I could tell you about STTK which daily MOCKS me by having the word "SMART" in its name, but was among the dumbest move I've made so far.

But since this is the FHAL thread: Go FHAL!!! Gap up tommorrow!!

Jo
 
Posted by ruiz on :
 
excuse mr that would be .34
 
Posted by skip on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by atomictraders:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
actually my strategy is fine tyvm atomic. i took a nice hefty profit on friday.

this weekend i reinforced my belief that something is fishy about this $15 promise. so i was glad to be out.

i spend my time as a model. im not a day trader. if it works out that i can jump in, great. and i was able to for an intended flip.

i make more money in my day job than many daytraders do in their trading week [Wink] priorities priorities.

but keep up the cocky attitude. you're sure to make friends that way.


everyone should invest when, how and what they are comfortable with.

~BB

A model? Good one, tell me another one, LOLLLLLLLL

Go FHAL!!!!

check her profile dude...I have actually seen her in commercials! That's cool!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
? um ? [Roll Eyes]

QUOTE]Originally posted by atomictraders:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
actually my strategy is fine tyvm atomic. i took a nice hefty profit on friday.

this weekend i reinforced my belief that something is fishy about this $15 promise. so i was glad to be out.

i spend my time as a model. im not a day trader. if it works out that i can jump in, great. and i was able to for an intended flip.

i make more money in my day job than many daytraders do in their trading week [Wink] priorities priorities.

but keep up the cocky attitude. you're sure to make friends that way.


everyone should invest when, how and what they are comfortable with.

~BB

A model? Good one, tell me another one, LOLLLLLLLL

Go FHAL!!!!
[/QUOTE]
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
AtomicTraders wrote:
quote:
A model? Good one, tell me another one, LOLLLLLLLL
Perhaps you should take the time to check out Betting Babe's profile with her weblink before you LOLLLLLL

Jo
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey betting babe how bout adding me to your myspace friends
 
Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
I have had the pleasure of "knowing" Miss Paula for quite awhile. Whilst you also don't know me from "atom", BB has proven herself over and over here at AS. She HAS been a cover model on Prevention magazine and had the FULL back cover of the NY Times Magazine. That would be for those who read.

She IS, in addition to being as cute as can be, a really smart day/swing trader who is willing to share her experiences and knowledge.

Granted, the web makes for good storybook companions, but BB is the real deal. Frankly, there's nothing in it for her to lie. Whilst the rest of us hide behind our nics, she puts her famous (and gorgeous!) face out there for all to see!

And frankly, I couldn't be more honored to consider her a screen friend.

Any more and I'd be happy to nibble on you.

quote:
Originally posted by atomictraders:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
actually my strategy is fine tyvm atomic. i took a nice hefty profit on friday.

this weekend i reinforced my belief that something is fishy about this $15 promise. so i was glad to be out.

i spend my time as a model. im not a day trader. if it works out that i can jump in, great. and i was able to for an intended flip.

i make more money in my day job than many daytraders do in their trading week [Wink] priorities priorities.

but keep up the cocky attitude. you're sure to make friends that way.


everyone should invest when, how and what they are comfortable with.

~BB

A model? Good one, tell me another one, LOLLLLLLLL

Go FHAL!!!!


 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by skip:
quote:
Originally posted by atomictraders:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
actually my strategy is fine tyvm atomic. i took a nice hefty profit on friday.

this weekend i reinforced my belief that something is fishy about this $15 promise. so i was glad to be out.

i spend my time as a model. im not a day trader. if it works out that i can jump in, great. and i was able to for an intended flip.

i make more money in my day job than many daytraders do in their trading week [Wink] priorities priorities.

but keep up the cocky attitude. you're sure to make friends that way.


everyone should invest when, how and what they are comfortable with.

~BB

A model? Good one, tell me another one, LOLLLLLLLL

Go FHAL!!!!

check her profile dude...I have actually seen her in commercials! That's cool!
Come on, you guys are so gullible. Anyone can put up a link to someone else's web site. It looks like that "Paula" chic has a **** up... if she really is that model she wouldn't mind putting up a pic of herself holding a sign that says "AllStocks Rulz!" or heck, even better... put one up saying "AtomicTraders Sux." If she can do that, I'll humbly appologize and bow in her presence, LOL. My guess is she'll make up some excuse why she can't do that or something to the effect that she doesn't have to prove anything to anyone. LOLLLLLLL What a joke this place can a time, sheesh. Paula Patrice my azz. LOLLLLLLL

Go FHAL!!! $2 2maro Baby!!!
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by atomictraders:
quote:
Originally posted by skip:
quote:
Originally posted by atomictraders:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
actually my strategy is fine tyvm atomic. i took a nice hefty profit on friday.

this weekend i reinforced my belief that something is fishy about this $15 promise. so i was glad to be out.

i spend my time as a model. im not a day trader. if it works out that i can jump in, great. and i was able to for an intended flip.

i make more money in my day job than many daytraders do in their trading week [Wink] priorities priorities.

but keep up the cocky attitude. you're sure to make friends that way.


everyone should invest when, how and what they are comfortable with.

~BB

A model? Good one, tell me another one, LOLLLLLLLL

Go FHAL!!!!

check her profile dude...I have actually seen her in commercials! That's cool!
Come on, you guys are so gullible. Anyone can put up a link to someone else's web site. It looks like that "Paula" chic has a **** up... if she really is that model she wouldn't mind putting up a pic of herself holding a sign that says "AllStocks Rulz!" or heck, even better... put one up saying "AtomicTraders Sux." If she can do that, I'll humbly appologize and bow in her presence, LOL. My guess is she'll make up some excuse why she can't do that or something to the effect that she doesn't have to prove anything to anyone. LOLLLLLLL What a joke this place can a time, sheesh. Paula Patrice my azz. LOLLLLLLL

Go FHAL!!! $2 2maro Baby!!!

Calm your azz down Atomic Duecebag. Betting Babe didn't do sh*t to you. Watch your mouth boy
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
kids?

we really got a problem here?
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
kids?

we really got a problem here?

Hello Tex, glad to see as always. Pardon the hostility here but Atomic Nobody here is steering Fhal thread into nonsense. Now can we talk about this stock now please???
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
'kids' obviously being the operative word here.

anyway we all know i dont need to prove myself. somebody obviously has issues.

oh, atomic, did i mention that i actually design and program my sites myself too?

i thought i would leave you a message on my journal page... oh and Tmoney i left you a message too [Smile]

whatever, these petty games can sometimes be fun. a good distraction from the serious stuff in life.


got me thinking i really need to update my journal too!

smiles all, im off for the nite, ~BB
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
you're quite gracious, BB...
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
HAHAHAHA...I just saw the message from Paula to you on her page. Now bow down dumbazzz...LOL
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Wow, people have to prove their own identities around here now? Silly.

Whoever BB is she has persistent eyes. She DD'd the crap out of this thing before coming on board. Glad to hear she found no bad news!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
She DD'd the crap out of this thing before coming on board.
Smart AND beautiful.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea, come on Atomic. Big bow, with a grand flourish even!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
BB where did you leave me a message, anyway i just sent you an add to friends in myspace, check it out
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
so is this Friday the day symbol changes or is it Monday? or does anyone know?

I would like to buy when funds settle Wednesday. I do have concerns however as Im sure lots do, especially us newcomers. Maybe some of the LONGS can help me:

There's many people talking of what option will be chosen. Seems like option C is the leading canidate, which is make this $15 with new ticker.
------------------------------------------------
1) I would think all of FHAL shareholders would sell asap and take huge profits if that happened, while some would sell half and see whr new company goes. Which of course should send stock down, how far, not sure? any case, everyone should make good gain, even if they bought now.

2) If the option where they take the avg price happens, then everyone would lose a bunch of money, cause it would open much lower then it is now.

Im just wondering if the LONGS think this is still a safe stock to buy. I know with reward comes risk, but if anyone has been in this long, ur opinions on this stock are appreciated. thx!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
'kids' obviously being the operative word here.

anyway we all know i dont need to prove myself. somebody obviously has issues.

oh, atomic, did i mention that i actually design and program my sites myself too?

i thought i would leave you a message on my journal page... oh and Tmoney i left you a message too [Smile]

whatever, these petty games can sometimes be fun. a good distraction from the serious stuff in life.


got me thinking i really need to update my journal too!

smiles all, im off for the nite, ~BB

There ya go BB...That's the attitude! You did and do what is right for you! And as much as you were trying to find "bad" about this...after all the DD you did searchin'...it's a comfort to see you back on board!

Now let's make bank...LOL!
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Do you think it'll be a gapper tomorrow?
Or would people be taking profits in the morning?
MM purposely try to press this thing below $1.5 in the last few hours today, but let it go in the last 15 mins...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
'kids' obviously being the operative word here.

anyway we all know i dont need to prove myself. somebody obviously has issues.

oh, atomic, did i mention that i actually design and program my sites myself too?

i thought i would leave you a message on my journal page... oh and Tmoney i left you a message too [Smile]

whatever, these petty games can sometimes be fun. a good distraction from the serious stuff in life.


got me thinking i really need to update my journal too!

smiles all, im off for the nite, ~BB

There ya go BB...That's the attitude! You did and do what is right for you! And as much as you were trying to find "bad" about this...after all the DD you did searchin'...it's a comfort to see you back on board!

Now let's make bank...LOL!

I don't have any problems with people selling when they feel it's right for them. I don't even care if people flip this or not. It bothers me when people sell and start stating things that are complete speculation, to scare newbies into selling, and the next thing you know they're right back in. If you want to sell, do it but not everyone needs to know every time someone buys or sells this. By the way BB your pics are pretty nice. Hey 10 when do we get to see pictures of you? -Cassity [Wink]
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
'kids' obviously being the operative word here.

anyway we all know i dont need to prove myself. somebody obviously has issues.

oh, atomic, did i mention that i actually design and program my sites myself too?

i thought i would leave you a message on my journal page... oh and Tmoney i left you a message too [Smile]

whatever, these petty games can sometimes be fun. a good distraction from the serious stuff in life.


got me thinking i really need to update my journal too!

smiles all, im off for the nite, ~BB

Hahaha, where? Paula Patrice's web page hasn't been updated in years. I see no message there. Her last message on her journal at www. p a u l a p a t r i c e . com was from June 2002 about some shiatsu massage lounger, HAHAHA what a joke. Like I said BB won't put anything up cuz she has no access to that site. LOLLLL!!!

Anyhow, you guys are right, back to the topic at hand, I appologize for the digression.

Anyone else here about the O/S changing? I read on IHUB something about O/S being different then stated? Any info?

GO FHAL!!!
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by atomictraders:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
actually my strategy is fine tyvm atomic. i took a nice hefty profit on friday.

this weekend i reinforced my belief that something is fishy about this $15 promise. so i was glad to be out.

i spend my time as a model. im not a day trader. if it works out that i can jump in, great. and i was able to for an intended flip.

i make more money in my day job than many daytraders do in their trading week [Wink] priorities priorities.

but keep up the cocky attitude. you're sure to make friends that way.


everyone should invest when, how and what they are comfortable with.

~BB

A model? Good one, tell me another one, LOLLLLLLLL

Go FHAL!!!!

I model edible undergarments.
 
Posted by ruiz on :
 
what is the web address for IHUB...excuse my ignorance as I am new and learning
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by atomictraders:
QUOTE]Hahaha, where? Paula Patrice's web page hasn't been updated in years. I see no message there. Her last message on her journal at www. p a u l a p a t r i c e . com was from June 2002 about some shiatsu massage lounger, HAHAHA what a joke. Like I said BB won't put anything up cuz she has no access to that site. LOLLLL!!!

Anyhow, you guys are right, back to the topic at hand, I appologize for the digression.

Anyone else here about the O/S changing? I read on IHUB something about O/S being different then stated? Any info?

GO FHAL!!!

Hey atomic...if you haven't gone to look at BB's profile..and you are not able to read (like her journal)...here is the message that she had just for you...

Sorry BB...had to copy from your journal...you can "yell" at me later...

http://www.paulapatrice.com/paula/index.html

the higher you climb the further there is to fall

in other words, humbleness is a very important trait atomictrader.
big fat egos lead to greed, alienation, and ultimately an embarrassing demise.
or, iow, karma's a kicker in the end [Wink]

unfortunately for you, there will be no time you can be in my presence.
however you may bow now, so karma can kick you in the behind.
...this message will self destruct in one hour. ~PP aka ~BB

hey tmoney, whats ur myspace name? send me an invite! =)


That's what she posted in her Journal...just for you to read..now say you're sorry Atomic! LMAO!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by atomictraders:
quote:
Originally posted by skip:
quote:
Originally posted by atomictraders:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
actually my strategy is fine tyvm atomic. i took a nice hefty profit on friday.

this weekend i reinforced my belief that something is fishy about this $15 promise. so i was glad to be out.

i spend my time as a model. im not a day trader. if it works out that i can jump in, great. and i was able to for an intended flip.

i make more money in my day job than many daytraders do in their trading week [Wink] priorities priorities.

but keep up the cocky attitude. you're sure to make friends that way.


everyone should invest when, how and what they are comfortable with.

~BB

A model? Good one, tell me another one, LOLLLLLLLL

Go FHAL!!!!

check her profile dude...I have actually seen her in commercials! That's cool!
Come on, you guys are so gullible. Anyone can put up a link to someone else's web site. It looks like that "Paula" chic has a **** up... if she really is that model she wouldn't mind putting up a pic of herself holding a sign that says "AllStocks Rulz!" or heck, even better... put one up saying "AtomicTraders Sux." If she can do that, I'll humbly appologize and bow in her presence, LOL. My guess is she'll make up some excuse why she can't do that or something to the effect that she doesn't have to prove anything to anyone. LOLLLLLLL What a joke this place can a time, sheesh. Paula Patrice my azz. LOLLLLLLL

Go FHAL!!! $2 2maro Baby!!!

You have earned a rare honor of mine. I very rarely and only in extreme cases put another poster on Ignore. You have been inducted into my hall of shame.

I don't know BB other than mutually doing some DD on FHAL. In fact we probably disagree on that but she hasn't done a thing other thatn attempt to provide her view. I hate it when people etoop to the level of bashing other posters. It serves no purpose. Goodbye Atomic. Babe, I look forward to seeing you around the boards.

Nice close on FHAL today. We should know more this week. Whatever anyone does on this stock, never risk more than you are willing to lose.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Well looking aBB site. I know know why she was being so picky regarding the CVSU site. Nice design BB, strong colors, images, and only one or two sections that gave me a fatal error. Sure you are cleaning that up.

Thanks,
TB
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by atomictraders:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
'kids' obviously being the operative word here.

anyway we all know i dont need to prove myself. somebody obviously has issues.

oh, atomic, did i mention that i actually design and program my sites myself too?

i thought i would leave you a message on my journal page... oh and Tmoney i left you a message too [Smile]

whatever, these petty games can sometimes be fun. a good distraction from the serious stuff in life.


got me thinking i really need to update my journal too!

smiles all, im off for the nite, ~BB

Hahaha, where? Paula Patrice's web page hasn't been updated in years. I see no message there. Her last message on her journal at www. p a u l a p a t r i c e . com was from June 2002 about some shiatsu massage lounger, HAHAHA what a joke. Like I said BB won't put anything up cuz she has no access to that site. LOLLLL!!!

Anyhow, you guys are right, back to the topic at hand, I appologize for the digression.

Anyone else here about the O/S changing? I read on IHUB something about O/S being different then stated? Any info?

GO FHAL!!!

atomic?

do you have an attention problem?

lol...

thought we were done with this.

yes? no?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
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Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
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LMAO...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
I don't have any problems with people selling when they feel it's right for them. I don't even care if people flip this or not. It bothers me when people sell and start stating things that are complete speculation, to scare newbies into selling, and the next thing you know they're right back in. If you want to sell, do it but not everyone needs to know every time someone buys or sells this.
BB was bringing up questions and doing dd that she shared with us WHILE she was in the stock, before she sold it. I don't think the things she had to say were complete speculation.

Jo
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
OK BB is a hot Mom model, Atomictrader doesn't believe it. Got it, don't care, lets move on.

I am glad you pulled profit BB , and I'm glad that your still around. I am more bullish on this stock myself, but I get to wondering too. I believe that if we move higher toward 7.21 before the merge I will feel much better going in. If not, well I don't yet know how I will feel about that.
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
Great day again today.... Should we expect this thing to gap up tomorrow morning?
 
Posted by Linux2 on :
 
I'm not in this but thought I'd post this for others. Went over to Traders-Corner and found an interview with CEO Rufus Harris that you might be interested in. I've not listened to the whole broadcast so I won't comment.

http://www.traders-corner.com/

GLTA
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I have listened to that interview 5 times. Its a "must hear" for any investor here. Traders may not care..lol.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey Doniboy, did you ever get any WWEN? What are your thoughts on a PR tomorrow?-Cassity
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hey all... was busy flyin to denver today and couldn't follow the stock... yeah, nail biter the whole way. great close and whats wrong with you ppl... give that man a call and find out when the next PR is coming out and if they have any idea when the financials are being released;) haha, have a good night all and hopefully tomorrow is just as good as today...!
 
Posted by Braindamaged on :
 
Nice to come home from working my tail off with my boss on my back today and find that my FHAL shares are worth a couple of thousand more. Maybe it was not such a bad day.

LIFE IS GOOD
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Naw Cass, I didn't do any DD on WWEN. I wish you luck though brother.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey thanks, FHAL will be sweet tomorrow for us both. Goodnight everyone and may we get a nice juicy PR in da mornin.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
ur cute livin!

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
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Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.businessjive.com/nss/darkside.html
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
originally posted by Betting Babe
quote:
ur cute livin!

~BB

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Somehow I just imagine Linionklendathu reading this and then running around saying, "SHE THINKS I'M CUUUUTE!!"
 -
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.georgiaaerospace.com/
 
Posted by redmax on :
 
OK, I thought I would put together a post with basically everything you need to know as to why this stock will more then likely soar:

CVSU is merging into FHAL. FHAL acts as the shell company, where CVSU is practically buying the shell (FHAL) an already established and listed corporation, for next to nothing. Basically it is a cheap way for CVSU to IPO themselves, not having to worry about underwritters, lengthy delays, etc.

Now, The book value of the Merged company is $7.21 as of the last filing. This will probably go up to the $20+ range when the 10q is filed and all the spinoffs and deals are factored in.

The stock price is guaranteed to hit $15.00 by Monday as the company will be resetting the price at that, atleast this is according to the CEO and the 8k filed with the SEC last week.

Now the #1 question I see is "What will keep the share price at $15.00" Of course it is not guaranteed to stay at a certain price once it is reset, however most stocks trade at 2-8 times mulitple of the book value. Even if the book value is $7.21 like it was in the last filing (which will be lower then the actual value IMO), that would put the share price at between $15-$60 right off the bat.

Another thing I wanted to note is that the current Float according to the company and TA is approximately 20 million shares. This is big IMO, since over half the float traded today alone.

Now the next thing I hear all the time is "This is too good to be true" Well, Check out this link and notice how FHAL falls right next to these stocks in that they too are acting as a shell for a larger successful company. http://www.shellstockreview.com/ssr-Home.html

As you can see, this is the real thing folks. IMO there is very little chance buying into this stock could lose you money. Atleast for under $15.00.
 
Posted by Rules on :
 
The stock price is guaranteed to hit $15.00 by Monday as the company will be resetting the price at that, atleast this is according to the CEO and the 8k filed with the SEC last week.


In the form of a reverse split as there is no other way a company can automatically set a high PPS without it happening.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
There will be NO reverse split, where did you hear that?!! -To my knowledge-
 
Posted by redmax on :
 
RULES, they stated No reverse split. And yes it is possible. When a reverse merger takes place and CVSU merges into the shell company FHAL, it is treated sort of like an IPO and yes they can set a new price.

There job will be to maintain that price though which should be fairly easy given the book value.

Before making ignorant remarks please atleast do some research.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
originally posted by Betting Babe
quote:
ur cute livin!

~BB

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Somehow I just imagine Linionklendathu reading this and then running around saying, "SHE THINKS I'M CUUUUTE!!"
 -

Awwwwwww.........I love the abomidable snowman - Bumble is my buddie [Cool]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rules:
The stock price is guaranteed to hit $15.00 by Monday as the company will be resetting the price at that, atleast this is according to the CEO and the 8k filed with the SEC last week.


In the form of a reverse split as there is no other way a company can automatically set a high PPS without it happening.

Not true. I wish i could find the exact explaination but your comment regarding R/S does not apply here.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
shell stockreview.com/ssr-Home.html

LOVE that link RedMax! (take out spaces)
 
Posted by Braindamaged on :
 
Starting to gap already this morning
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Gapping again this AM. I think we'll have another good day here. I have FHAL and WWEN. WWEN had a huge pr with projected pps at 17.50.
Wow! It makes no sense to hold any other stocks in pennyland right now just FHAL and WWEN. IMO
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i also moved some fhal gains to wwen... the % gain is very interesting there right now because it is trading at 8 cents...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Heh, I jumped into WWEN recently as well. I had some cash sitting in the account thanks to FHAL so i figured I should let it ride on the next big thing. A run in both today and im hitting the bar after work. [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Yeah, I saw the PR for WWEN, nice ~

I got all my rocks right here though [Smile]
GLTA [Smile]
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
1.66 x 1.67
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Don't get me wrong I'm happy with this and FHAL is going to rock. People will be chasing FHAL upward from here on. I just thought that both FHAL and WWEN are major plays right now IMO. Have a great day everybody!!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
gapping nicely, maybe some news
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
Remember...irrational exhuburance!!!!

I'm patiently waiting for a small gain daily. If it hit $10.00 - $15.00 I don't know what I would do.

Yee Haw!
 
Posted by casviper on :
 
when is the last day this is trading as FHAL?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Goodmorning everyone, I have to go to class today, so I'm going to miss most of the action. Have you ever had to listen to a boring professor, while the thought of loosing thousands of dollars is in your mind(makes it a little hard to concentrate.) Have a good day everyone.-Cassity
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Don't you mean "the thought of gaining thousands of dollars"?

Jo
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Don't you mean "the thought of gaining thousands of dollars"?

Jo

I have a lot of confidence in FHAL, but I feel much better when I'm at the reigns, but "YES" gaining thousands is much better. Both make it hard to listen. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey look who sitting their fat A$$ on the ASK right now, are good friend ARCA!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Why is the ask lower than the bid????
 
Posted by Phoenix on :
 
Even if they are legally allowed to halt trading, set the bid to $15, then resume trading...do you think it really will stay at $15 for long when people start dumping?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
game playing today huh?! wow ~~
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Phoenix:
Even if they are legally allowed to halt trading, set the bid to $15, then resume trading...do you think it really will stay at $15 for long when people start dumping?

It may go even higher...
 
Posted by portman on :
 
What a mind play
 
Posted by Phoenix on :
 
It may, but there's bound to be a sell-off...lot of people in here would kill to get out at $10, $5, even $2.
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Phoenix:
Even if they are legally allowed to halt trading, set the bid to $15, then resume trading...do you think it really will stay at $15 for long when people start dumping?

I have to agree.

At 15$ this is a insane bagger. I know I personally plan to dump to lock in my profits. It may go higher, butwho cares -- at 15$ im WELL into the money.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey 10 how you enjoying WWEN! GO FHAL
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
lot of BLOCK SELLS are comming through, no BLOCK BUYS,On the microcap trading alerts
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Ask is very thin and bid support is building, I think we'll be well above 1.6 again SOON!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
But that's the BEST part!! AFTER the merger it most likely WILL go higher, maybe the selloff will effect it, maybe not, the numbers are solid. So by staying in selling off at more then $2.00 a share should be a lock no matter how much it falls.

"If you're that worried about it, set $10.00 GTC!"
Someone will buy them!! IMHO [Smile]
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
But that's the BEST part!! AFTER the merger it most likely WILL go higher, maybe the selloff will effect it, maybe not, the numbers are solid. So by staying in selling off at more then $2.00 a share should be a lock no matter how much it falls.

"If you're that worried about it, set $10.00 GTC!"
Someone will buy them!! IMHO [Smile]

Yep, already did that. [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I should have listened to you on WWEN Cass, good call man. I hope it goes to $1.00 [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yep...good call cassity... [Wink]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I should have listened to you on WWEN Cass, good call man. I hope it goes to $1.00 [Smile]

It's all good, Invester says another PR this week. WWEN will go much higher. FHAL is suppose to have a confrence call on M N 1.com at 10:30 CST.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
My 'gut" tells me that people are taking profits and getting out do to the possiblity of the filing coming out today...and they want out with their profits before then...IMO
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
L2's are shaping up nice, I think we'll start heading NORTH again soon! JMO
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Someone let the air out this morning! Im waiting for it to bounce....please? [Smile]
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i think some fhal guys are moving gains to wwen which is maybe not a bad decision...WWEN book value is the double of FHAL and they will soon announce 1,7B usd contracts for their bio diesel and the rumour goes they are the target for a buyout... i remember the day when fhal was 8 cents and it went up and up and now wwen is acting with the same pattern so radar it
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
MM's are going to feed off people today, nothing has changed. Just relax!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Ok big dip there but holding strong now. I admit i was starting to wonder what the 10:30cst interview was going to be about! [Smile]
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
There were 17 Block Sells today so far.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Good Morning!!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
sold half my shares this morning in fhal, so now i am riding free shares and took my money and bought into some wwen
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
scared money is selling... Then they'll buy into the run up at WWEN just in time to catch the selloff... That would suck ~

Good luck, I'm holding [Smile]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
MM's are going to feed off people today, nothing has changed. Just relax!

Nothing has changed, some don't want to hold during confrence call, but as someone on IHUB said M N 1 doesn't usually have bad news! It's all good even WWEN has it's DIPS! [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
hello everyone! I was in the same boat as P Rowds except I was on my way to Florida yesterday. This is my first chance to look at things. wow. Nice EOD and quite the shake this morning. I also see we've added some people to the thread. Welcome aboard and do your DD - there's plenty on this thread.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
hello everyone! I was in the same boat as P Rowds except I was on my way to Florida yesterday. This is my first chance to look at things. wow. Nice EOD and quite the shake this morning. I also see we've added some people to the thread. Welcome aboard and do your DD - there's plenty on this thread.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
A little retrace and a little panic is what I see. Good luck to all who got out, I hope you guys made some nice cash. Me? I'm still in. There's an interview today and a 10K coming.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I'm still in. Haven't sold a share. Interview should propel this again and where is that 10k.
 
Posted by jasbran on :
 
Anyone here using Scottrade? Just spoke with a broker at Scott and asked how long it would be before I can trade after the merger. They could not give me a direct answer and just said I may have to wait a few days until the company pays them. Do all brokers do this? May have to find a new one after this deal...
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
im not scared if thats what you were saying, i think i am wise, get my initial investment out and ride free shares, i saw an opportunity to invest in something else and went with it, so far my new investment has made me 70% profit today, sounds like i am winning in both!!!!
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Still in as well. I sold some, bought more and hanging in there. I am still in the green and waiting for more...
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
holding big time!! here too!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I'm really struggling with the connection I have at this 2-bit motel so I'm having a hard time getting through the posts from yesterday. What time is the inteview and what do we know about it? Is it with Rufus?
 
Posted by Goodones on :
 
Bad news does not happen on ***
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Moving up more [Big Grin]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
I dont see WWEN as being so great YET! mutch potential there but the bottom line is they do not report, last quarterly in 2003 showed 14 bucks in cash on hand, they are a LONG ways off from full scale production and will need alot more money than they have to pull it off, the news today says the 100 BPD test plant wont be up and running until the first quarter of 07!( test plant capcity is 10 BPD ) and no telling how long after that for the 1st 10,000 BPD plant. lots of potential but it`s a ways off yet! FHAL is a bird in the hand WWEN is two in the bush!, plenty of time to get into that one IMO! ( the price is dropping as we speak ) my money is on FHAL I like actual assets mutch better than projected assets!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
The Conference is at 10:30. But I am not sure if it is Eastern Standard time or CST.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
where was it announced?

edit: nevermind it's central standard time
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
with this company ,,the conference should be HUGE! i hope!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
today we break over two bucks!! watch and see!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
thanks, Doniboy. If anyone can confirm EST or CST that would be great!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I think WWEN will have it's day, I'll be watching that AFTER this STOCKZILLA is done... Hello MT!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
It looks like it is EST on their website.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
it's central as stated on M N 1 . C O M under press conferances...right at the top
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
I dont see WWEN as being so great YET! mutch potential there but the bottom line is they do not report, last quarterly in 2003 showed 14 bucks in cash on hand, they are a LONG ways off from full scale production and will need alot more money than they have to pull it off, the news today says the 100 BPD test plant wont be up and running until the first quarter of 07!( test plant capcity is 10 BPD ) and no telling how long after that for the 1st 10,000 BPD plant. lots of potential but it`s a ways off yet! FHAL is a bird in the hand WWEN is two in the bush!, plenty of time to get into that one IMO! ( the price is dropping as we speak ) my money is on FHAL I like actual assets mutch better than projected assets!

WWEN will be huge and so will FHAL, I tried to tell people to use some extra money to buy WWEN, but it's very irritating when people try to get others to sell one to buy the other. Madmoney, I've spoken with the company myself, with many others and the future for WWEN will be huge, but FHAL will be a MONSTER itself. Buy what you want, sell what you want. GLTA in FHAL! Long and strong 21k. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Its typically CST based on the M N 1 site. An hour from now, i cant wait!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Sorry
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
today we break over two bucks!! watch and see!

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
today we break over two bucks!! watch and see!

LOL!!!! O.K.!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
Hey, Chartwalker! It's hot as hell in FL . . . even at 8 AM! I'm here for a convention - just so ya'll don't think I'm crazy.

I know a lot of people have posted here that they're thinking a big sell off potentially when the news comes. But if we get the news we're anticipating, I have no idea why someone would sell . . . maybe to pay their electric bill! LMAO! (that one was for you 10of13)
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
I think the selloff will because there are hot plays everyday and FHAL already had it's run.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
already had it's run,,,that's to FUNNY!!LOL!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
The Conference is scheduled for 10:30 AM CST on M N1 .com.

Can't imagnine he'd be bringing bad news with him..lol [Smile]
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
already had it's run,,,that's to FUNNY!!LOL!!

Making money that fast & easy is funny...in a good way. It can't go up forever
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Well, we are almost back to even for the day. Not bad after the start.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
Batman, I know where you're coming from . . . if you purely think of FHAL as a penny play. However, with what we know to date, there is reason to believe that we are no longer dealing with a penny stock. IMO.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Hey MT ~ Maybe GREED.... I admit it was hard watching WWEN take off, but it came back down. I posted there this morning before the show started and said it looked great for them.

But BETTER for us!! $15 oh yeah ~
Stay cool MT ~
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
high quotes on the ask side are stacking up! one each at 2.00,2x 2.01,2.10,2.83,3.00,4.00,and 5.00! I like the looks of that! most of those quotes were raised today!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
100$ here we come!!! i'll hold out for that!!! anybody else!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
guys just remember one thing, NO STOCK IS A GUARANTEE!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
high quotes on the ask side are stacking up! one each at 2.00,2x 2.01,2.10,2.83,3.00,4.00,and 5.00! I like the looks of that! most of those quotes were raised today!

it was like that most of yesterday as well...although i'm more interested in all the mm's in between 1.70 and 1.55 it's awefully thin in there...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
LMAO.... I think there might be money to be made at $15... -have you ever played IPO??? This company is solid, watch Investor Business Daily pick it up in their TOP 100....
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
heck even a rubber is not guaranteed!!! but still have to use them!!alot and by millions ''LOL!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
IMO, we are sitting as solid as we can with a penny stock.. I'm enjoying it, this may never happen again ~
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Press confrence will be at 10:30 CST according to M N 1 website. Not sure if anybody cleared that up.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I just had $1.66 blip up as the price for a second . . . did a buy go through at that?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
1000 share buy went through for that at 10:42

someone is pi$$ed...
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
up north here only 8.49 am
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
is this conference public??
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
i got *** playing right now and i got 10:48 EST
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
i got M N 1 playing right now and i got 10:48 EST


 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
post what is going on!!!!??
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
i got *** playing right now and i got 10:48 EST

Yup, so in 40 minutes or so you will be getting the live feed for this. Im at work so no streaming audio for me. [Frown]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
is there a link for this feed???
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
is there a link for this feed???

m n 1 . c o m
launch live radio..
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Ihub is going nuts. All the basher shorts are trying their darndest to get everyone out before the Good news is released. LOL
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
ihub is a pos pump site, so every comment from ihub is a pos comment my logic tells me
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
thanks STOCK she up and running!!!let's rock today!!
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
thanks STOCK she up and running!!!let's rock today!!

running ? its down 10%...lets wait till we at least break even before we call a run.

30 minutes before the conference
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
This should be AWESOME.......
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
LOL...

quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
thanks STOCK she up and running!!!let's rock today!!

running ? its down 10%...lets wait till we at least break even before we call a run.

30 minutes before the conference


 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
HEY STOCK '''TALKING ***.up and running never used that site before, only subpenny!!, THE STOCK will run later!!
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
The anticipation is killing me LOL. Maybe more dangerous to my health than Bodyguarding
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
m n 1 upand running!
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
HEY STOCK '''TALKING ***.up and running never used that site before, only subpenny!!, THE STOCK will run later!!

sorry i cant read stars.
come again ?
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
sorry SYGY lol

i got you....you were talking about m n 1 not the stock
ok
nevermind
[Smile]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
conference delayed to 2.30
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Hey Stock!!!

Hows the bumps and bruises doin???
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
anybody else here that on m ?n 1
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
delayed?..... -anyone?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
conference delayed to 2.30

Hmmm, that sucks. Wish they could follow that with an explaination
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
anybody else here that on m ?n 1

yes, FHAL will be on at 2:30 central time, 3:30 eastern?. if they confirm 15 a share open for CVSU this will explode! if not ????
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 

 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Hmmm, i cant seem to access the CVSU website either. I could use some reassurance!! [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
They don't need to confirm $15 a share. They have confirmed it 20 times. I'm thinking that they will be talking about the 10k.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Im not asking them to confirm $15 a share. I was just talking about reassurance after delaying the conference. Im just being dramatic to be silly. [Smile]
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Hey Stock!!!

Hows the bumps and bruises doin???

after removing the 25 staples from my head and the 15 stitches on my forehead...i got some scars but overall, its not that bad, i can live with it. You can notice it but...scars have stories eh ?
thanks for asking [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
lol
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
if we get the news we are hoping for this will explode! anticipation of the news should run the price up! with a higher price at news time the potential to run over 2 or 3 or even 4.00 plus by this time tomarrow will increase. could be the strategy behind the delay! get the price up then news and BANG!! explosion!!!
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
if we get the news we are hoping for this will explode! anticipation of the news should run the price up! with a higher price at news time the potential to run over 2 or 3 or even 4.00 plus by this time tomarrow will increase. could be the strategy behind the delay! get the price up then news and BANG!! explosion!!!

in my opinion, i like the conference at 3L30 EST rather than now...a EOD run could feed off of that, tomorrow though i dont have a prediction until this conference is out and we see its impact on the pps. As long as its no fluff or something we already know they might RE clearify might go up EOD
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Could go either way. But with the conference moved to EOD, people will have less time to ponder the news and more time to panic. (panic buy, panic sell? Which will it be? LOL)
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Hey Stock!!!

Hows the bumps and bruises doin???

after removing the 25 staples from my head and the 15 stitches on my forehead...i got some scars but overall, its not that bad, i can live with it. You can notice it but...scars have stories eh ?
thanks for asking [Smile]

Glad you don't have any seriouse long term probs from it...
They say everyone that rides has one good accident....You should be clear for awhile...

If it makes ya feel any better... CHICK'S DIG SCARS!!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Maybe their website is down because they are updating it with all sorts of great news!! I dont even see anything official for the delay of the conference. Did they say it live on M N radio or something?

I might as well go to lunch. Im reading into things too much. [Smile]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
I-HUB was posting that m n 1 was the delay not FHAL !!!had to play other stuff first ,,not a big deal,,better for end of day and tomorrow anyways!!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
M N 1 just announced the delay. Sounds like they are just going to talk about other stuff, so I don't thik M N 1 was the reason for the delay.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Maybe their website is down because they are updating it with all sorts of great news!! I dont even see anything official for the delay of the conference. Did they say it live on M N radio or something?

I might as well go to lunch. Im reading into things too much. [Smile]

they just said it live on the radio. 3:30 EST time. last run of the day...thats some stressful stuff
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Hey Stock!!!

Hows the bumps and bruises doin???

after removing the 25 staples from my head and the 15 stitches on my forehead...i got some scars but overall, its not that bad, i can live with it. You can notice it but...scars have stories eh ?
thanks for asking [Smile]

Glad you don't have any seriouse long term probs from it...
They say everyone that rides has one good accident....You should be clear for awhile...

If it makes ya feel any better... CHICK'S DIG SCARS!!!

i was in the come for a little bit and they had to keep my lungs working cause i was choking on blood internally...they thought i lost some of my short term memory but it was just the confusion and such after waking up.
i am fine and can walk and everything thank God.
Chicks dig bikes more than scars but i got scars now and im getting another bike soon also lol
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
ATTA BOY!!!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
everyone i know that had a bike is either in a wheelchair or has died from a bike accident,
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Take care buddy. My husband says anyone who rides a bike has either had an accident or will have an accident. Hopefully yours is out of the way...Be safe!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I lost a friend too from a bike...
Homer was cool ~ -now back to the hunt! [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
hey...1.50 just fell...took long enough...
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
everyone i know that had a bike is either in a wheelchair or has died from a bike accident,

well hi, im Stock, i had 2 bikes, getting another one after i make the whole msrp here, still on 2 legs and trading stocks.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Wow, this is like an anti-Bike rally. I once dumped a small Honda when I was a kid, right in front of a cop. He just drove around me and laughed, but I wasn't hurt so I can't blame him. Now I drive 4 wheel vehicles only..lol.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
this is what FHAL should do today after the conference : UP
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
everyone i know that had a bike is either in a wheelchair or has died from a bike accident,

Don't wanna know ya!!!!

Have a nice day...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...youtube...myspace...facebook...allstocks...
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
good luck man, its not the bike that worries me, its the people on the road that dont see the bike that do, unless your one of those crazy crotch rocket wheely riding boys then its your own fault, oh and by the way you shouldnt have introduced yourself yo me cause now i know you.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
website or not it's gonna run. wish i had been around earlier for a round trip.
~BB
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
haha...youtube...myspace...facebook...allstocks...

lol thats me by the way and i also seem to have all 4 of those [Wink]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
lol...me too...thats the sad part...
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
lol...me too...thats the sad part...

i hope your not one of them emo kids...second thought, you cant be...they are too EMOtional to trade
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Hey, maybe Rufus will release the 10k at the same time as the interview, since has been moved back to 330 and screw the MMs.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Looks like they added quotemedia to their Web Site. Looks like the "pinching" question has been addressed, thats cool.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
website is back up - did it have the quote info on the front before?

or has it been updated?

http://www.cvsu.us/

was that link for 'audited financials' there before?

~BB
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Thats an update BB (I believe). Maybe they saw you mention it yesterday...lol.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
This is all very strange. I don't know if Rufas is just trying to make a point or what... The delay is genius, but I have never seen a company take the web site down for this long to post news. In most cases it should not require them to take the site down at all.

Whatever is going on today it must be thought to be big internally, because this seems a bit dramatic. [Confused]
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
This is all very strange. I don't know if Rufas is just trying to make a point or what... The delay is genius, but I have never seen a company take the web site down for this long to post news. In most cases it should not require them to take the site down at all.

Whatever is going on today it must be thought to be big internally, because this seems a bit dramatic. [Confused]

the site was down because it was being updated...they added a new feature
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
lol...me too...thats the sad part...

i hope your not one of them emo kids...second thought, you cant be...they are too EMOtional to trade
i don't think they let EMO kids in lawschool, lmao?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Maybe they didn't take the site down. Check out the number of psts here and at Ihub and HSM and all the other boards. If all of those people visited the site at the same time it could very well crash.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
The quote media table was on there this morning. I checked at 4AM ... don't ask.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
it could have been while the files were being overwritten... it wasnt down for long that i noticed. and they incorporated dynamic info on the homepage, so that could have caused a temp glitch.

u want drama, just wait til that AUDITED FINANCIALS link works!

edit: ok it works now, wait til it gets updated [Wink] LOL

~BB
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I checked at 4AM ... don't ask.


LOL [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
lol...me too...thats the sad part...

i hope your not one of them emo kids...second thought, you cant be...they are too EMOtional to trade
i don't think they let EMO kids in lawschool, lmao?
i thought u were in art school
[Razz]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
ha haha ha ha...lol

ask is looking pretty good right now...1.59 is starting to fall...

and there it goes...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Had a server move this morning and was in the office making sure my app came back online when the move was complete.

I agree BB the Quote Media could be giving their server some fits. They may have had a crash, or server stall from today's traffic.
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
Here we go!!
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
UBSS sitting on 1.605. Must want shares for a run.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
yesterday there were 5 or 6 MM`s on the ask at 2.00 or more today we started with 8 MM`s over 2.00 we have had as many as 12!!! at 2.00 or higher today!! looking good for 2+ by eod IMO!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
You know I don't know why it didn't strike me as odd earlier, but I went back into that cvsu.us site and looked at that Quote Media table again.

Maybe I just look at too many web sites with stock tickers on them, or just too many web sites in general.

But it dawned on me that this is the privately held company CVSU posting FHAL stock quotes on their web site! Plain as day like maybe tomorrow it will be quoting CVSU stock quotes! This is very cool. [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

GLTA!!!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hey all... checkin in as much as possible... but that audited financials part was on the site last week... dunno if that was still a question or not
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
moving up!! lets break 1.70!!!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Everyone see TRAC sitting at 1.62 with 100K
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Shake rattle and then ROLL!!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
News out!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
What news?????
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
where, cant find it
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i dont see news?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Hi 10!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
News just states about the interview for ***...at 330 today
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
It's news of the confrence with m n 1 today! It's going to be awsome!!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I was starten to get excited...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Conversion Solutions, Inc. CEO and COO to Join ***.com Tuesday, July 25, 2006 at 3:30 p.m. EDT
Jul 25, 2006 12:46:00 PM
KENNESAW, Ga., July 25 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC: CVSU) and The FrontHaul Group (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL) have gone through a recent transformation and Market News First would like to invite you to join us in welcoming Rufus Paul Harris, the new CEO and Ben Stanley, the new COO of this company for a live and exclusive discussion.

Join Rufus Paul Harris, CEO, Ben Stanley, COO, of FrontHaul Group, and Andrew Coffee and Dick Hunter today at 3:30 p.m. EDT on ***.com.

About Conversion Solutions, Inc.

The FrontHaul Group (Conversion Solutions, Inc.) is a publicly held diversified holdings Delaware corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at www.cvsu.us.

About Market News First

***.com Market News First is an online microcap news provider which brings investors current up to speed news on the microcap market. Market News First is the only online live radio web site that brings real microcap news to investors and features live interaction with companies from the Bulletin Board, Pink Sheets, and Amex.

Through daily live pressers we bring you up to date on all the established companies and inform the investors of the newest opportunities within the microcap market. Market News First's one on one interviews with the Presidents and CFOs of microcap companies, broadcasted on our website, delivers answers to the questions that microcap investors would ask and provides them insight into the companies' present condition and future plans.

SOURCE Conversion Solutions, Inc
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Hi 10!!

So did you listen or not? LOL
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i gotta go to work. nobody make any sudden moves til i get back! [Wink]

~BB
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i gotta go to work. nobody make any sudden moves til i get back! [Wink]

~BB

LMAO...OK BB... [Wink]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Not quite....I'm lookin..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee...that would be 3 strikes...! LOL
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i gotta go to work. nobody make any sudden moves til i get back! [Wink]

~BB

Watcha gunna not ware???? [Eek!] [Eek!]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
FHAL is going to explode after the confrence, wait and SEE!!! YEPPPIEEEEEE
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
website or not it's gonna run. wish i had been around earlier for a round trip.
~BB

Yup, a nice round tripper this morning but again i froze and held. My lack of experience here shows from time to time. LOL
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so you guys think they'll say a bunch of great/terrible stuff then release a PR post closing to back it up?
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
FHAL is going to explode after the confrence, wait and SEE!!! YEPPPIEEEEEE

oh so u can tell the future ?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Conference... can we at least agree on the spelling??? LOL
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Central time is still 2:30 I believe... plenty of time for market to react [Smile]
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Bid 3x.14 1x.135 2x.13

Ask 1x.145 4x.15 2x.155
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Sorry wrong thread.

Bid 1x1.54 3x1.53 2x1.52

Ask 2x1.56 3x1.57 1x1.575
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea, but i know where it belonged so i was happy to see it. [Smile]
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
WHEW!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Scary Bid report there DJG...lol
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
tap-tap-tap.... "Is this thing on?" lol ~
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Do you guys (and girls) think that the upcoming 10K will include merger specific financial information, or will it just include FHAL's last report?
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Do you guys (and girls) think that the upcoming 10K will include merger specific financial information, or will it just include FHAL's last report?

if we get lucky it might come with coupons to Giant super stores!

Doni, we cant say what is going to be on it...its up to the company to show us what makes them look as good as possible...if any sector has a flaw, it might be masked...its the market.
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I would be a happy little camper if it closes a little higher than yesterday's close...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Do you guys (and girls) think that the upcoming 10K will include merger specific financial information, or will it just include FHAL's last report?

It is my understanding that it will include both FHAL and CVSU...audited...not sure it would include specifics on the merger..I believe they have to file a S-4 for that...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
either way Rufus is a crowd pleaser ~ [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
You're right 10, they have to file an SB2. Hopefully they coincide the release of those two documents so that people don't panic if the 10K does not mention all the figures that they are looking for.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Do you guys (and girls) think that the upcoming 10K will include merger specific financial information, or will it just include FHAL's last report?

It is my understanding that it will include both FHAL and CVSU...audited...not sure it would include specifics on the merger..I believe they have to file a S-4 for that...
Mom, what we got for lunch today...i is le haaangray!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
did conference happen???
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
in 37 minutes [Smile]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
ok!thanks!
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Do you guys (and girls) think that the upcoming 10K will include merger specific financial information, or will it just include FHAL's last report?

It is my understanding that it will include both FHAL and CVSU...audited...not sure it would include specifics on the merger..I believe they have to file a S-4 for that...
Mom, what we got for lunch today...i is le haaangray!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
i thought it is in an hour and 37 minutes
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
did conference happen???

not yet
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
TO CLEAR THIS UP: CONFERENCE IS AT THE LAST HALF HOUR BEFORE EOD
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Stock...you know the rule here...12:30 or you have to wait until snack time at 3...we just had grilled cheese...and melon...
Chicken for dinner...6 sharp!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
10 sounds like a strict Mom.......nice.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Stock...you know the rule here...12:30 or you have to wait until snack time at 3...we just had grilled cheese...and melon...
Chicken for dinner...6 sharp!

Hmmm, youre not that far south from where i live. I think i can make 6!!
[Razz]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
we like the mom's that can take control...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
whew... I thought I was going nuts 37 minutes would put every clock I own including the three computer system clocks in front of me an hour off.

Had a "Back to the Future" moment.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Strict..but fun...I have good kids...and I believe it is do to having structure...LOL...we have fun and stay on schedule...It works great!

Cat...com'on down!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
and incase anyone didn't know...M N 1 doesn't work if you have firefox...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
BBQ? Fried? Tell me more about the Chicken. [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
must be lunch time! ha ha ~
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Its funny, the Ihub board is going crazy with bashers, haters, P&D claims, political tirades...etc. And over here we are discussing Fried Chicken and 10from13's kids. I guess what I am saying is that I needed a break from the craziness [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Baked...(buttered sprinkled with flour, poultry seasoning, salt, pepper and paprika...skin ends up real crisp)with "whipped" potatoes and gravy...corn on the cob, fruit and for dessert...haven't decided...probably just brownies...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Stock...you know the rule here...12:30 or you have to wait until snack time at 3...we just had grilled cheese...and melon...
Chicken for dinner...6 sharp!

Hmmm, youre not that far south from where i live. I think i can make 6!!
[Razz]

Your screwed catia......I live in the same town!!!

Directions please 10!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Its funny, the Ihub board is going crazy with bashers, haters, P&D claims, political tirades...etc. And over here we are discussing Fried Chicken and 10from13's kids. I guess what I am saying is that I needed a break from the craziness [Smile]

Well, we might be considered crazy as well. [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Stock...you know the rule here...12:30 or you have to wait until snack time at 3...we just had grilled cheese...and melon...
Chicken for dinner...6 sharp!

Hmmm, youre not that far south from where i live. I think i can make 6!!
[Razz]

Your screwed catia......I live in the same town!!!

Directions please 10!!

Haha, i hope you are baking a BIG chicken 10!! [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so how about that weather...
 
Posted by Dreamer0708 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Baked...(buttered sprinkled with flour, poultry seasoning, salt, pepper and paprika...skin ends up real crisp)with "whipped" potatoes and gravy...corn on the cob, fruit and for dessert...haven't decided...probably just brownies...

Now im really hungry.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey 10 I'm 2-0 on my suggestions to you.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Wow Cassity, you sure were right about WWEN. Congratulations. Wish I would have taken your advice.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Now cassity..the first one hasn't come to light as of yet...(although it's lookin' as if it might) but you were right on the WWEN..and no I didn't buy more yesterday after you suggested...DANG IT! But I did have a small pot in it...

You're doin' good...where's the next one...HMMMM
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Doniboy, the only reason I even mentioned WWEN is because I have DD the crap out of it. I know it's a great stock. It's still not to late, mark my words it will be a multi dollar stock within the next two months. FHAL is still great, I think after the conference it will explode. People are to damn skeptical. GLTY
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Congrats Cassity... it is climbing.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I'm gonna get all the idiots over at Ihub to visit you at WWEN and post things like:

"I don't know about this, be careful"

"Hmm looks like P&D to me"

"I'll get in after the dump"

etc, etc, etc...

Then I can get in cheap [Smile] Just kidding......
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea, thanks for the WWEN headsup. Ive been so into fhal that i havent looked at another stock! I have a small position there but its growing nicely. [Smile]
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
i guess i wasnt so stupid after all by getting in, im riding free shares in FHAL and WWEN now,
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
OK, lets not rub it in to those of us who were too drained from FHAL to ride WWEN. LOL

3:30 EST approaching fast. C'mon Rufus, gives us something with meat on it!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
thin to 1.60

edit: getting thicker, lol...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
did i miss anything?

tough day at work LOL

booked the commercial i went out for tho [Big Grin]

macy's labor day mattress event - coming soon to a tv near you!

~BB
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
awesome!

and you didn't miss much...in fact just in time for the 3:30 interview on M N 1 . com
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
did i miss anything?

tough day at work LOL

booked the commercial i went out for tho [Big Grin]

macy's labor day mattress event - coming soon to a tv near you!

~BB

Hey congrats!

Didnt seem to miss much. Conference is now at 3:30 EST so actually you are back just in time.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
OK finally got pulled over ,,and *** ready to go have till close to CHECK OUT CONFERENCE! LET GET READYTO ROLL!!!!!!got internet rolling on laptop IT'S ALL GOOD!!!!bet she's gonna be HUGE NEWS!oh buy the way have nice moutain view right now!BEAUTIFUL!!!go go FHAL!!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
m n 1 ready to roll ,that is!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Congrats BB. You the model!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Got one laptop on Allstocks, one on Etrade LevelII, and the desktop on ***. Glad I started work early this morning gives me this afternoon to focus on this.

Nap comes after market close.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i didnt see the conference call on the homepage - anyone have the link to it?
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Can anyone be kind enough to update us on the interview?
I'm busy here with this military project...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
What's wrong with all of you can't you see we are going back over 1.6 and are going to $2+.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
wow ARCA is on the ask at 15.29!! i know that will soon change but it IS cool to look at!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
bb go to m n 1 .com and look under the press conference tab it says 10:30 but it was moved to 2:30 central time
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Cassity I think you are going to have a record day.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
It has been a great day. Biggest day of my trading career. I feel extremely blessed.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Good for you cass! [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
cassity...you sure have had a great week!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
if cassity is a girl i better marry her lol
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
So the PR said WWEN is worth $17 a share????
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *********06:
if cassity is a girl i better marry her lol

Ouch! LOL!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
They only paid $995.00 for the report from ***. Just disclosed on the radio.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
what report? oh ok...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Talking about the Analyst Rating Report from M N 1. Rating report paid for by FHAL. The PDF report on the M N 1 website.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
oh...ok
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Not a girl, sorry! Trying to keep my nerves in check right now. Looking forward to the confrence that is starting very soon. GLTA
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
5 minutes people.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Drum roll ~~~~~
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
SQUEEZE A COMING!!!EVERYBODY READY!!! i am HELL YAA!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
do you think this will go up because of the interview..somebody talked to rufus lately
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I can't log in. Too busy I guess [Frown] Please post remarks.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I don't have a feed... sorry ~
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
bb go to m n 1 .com and look under the press conference tab it says 10:30 but it was moved to 2:30 central time

"station unavailable at this time"
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
i dont either! anybody else???
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
DAMN IT. We need a stenographer.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
im in & listening. lines are flooded they said... fronthaul cant get thru on the listener lines LOL
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
So many people are calling they can't get Rufus on so they are dumping all the calls!! HA!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
This interviewer knows nothing. FHAL can not get through the phone lines because of callers.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
is anybody able to get in to conference???
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
You ain't missin much - FHAL guys can't get through cause their 6 lines are tied up -
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
i'm on LIVE!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
make sure you're using internet explorer. didnt work in firefox. or on mac.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
OK, this radio station had no idea of the interest now...lol
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I can't get in either...
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
Is this a joke? They didn't give FHAL their own private number to call in on?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
make sure you're using internet explorer. didnt work in firefox. or on mac.

tried both...no luck Windows or Mac
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
phone lines are full at m n 1 TOO!FUNNY!!! CEO'S finally coming on'''only moderater on right now!!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
they just said conversion is being acquired by fronthaul.. TODAY
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
im listning live
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
What's happening now???????????????????
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
This is funny... they were really taken of guard by the interest in FHAL.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
They are reading about the merger deal - you have already heard it
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
6 phone lines!!!that's stupid!!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Gosh darn, they need to add lines. I can't get in either. Someone translate.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
they will have fhal on the phone in couple seconds after they introduce what the merger is going to do
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
they just said conversion is being acquired by fronthaul.. TODAY

WOOT!! [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I can't believe that the stock price went down. People are selling because of what?? The fact that there are so many interested people that it crashed a radio station?????

Dumb.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
still trying to get ceo on line!
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Why the price dropping so quick?
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
they are trying to reach cvsu, but the people there might be fuking up and calling fhal..idiots on that radio
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
This radio station is a bunch of JACKA$$E$
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
haha what have they said already
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
The hosts are confused as to who they are supposed to talk to ie: CVSU or FHAL peeps
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
they have Rufus on the phone....here we go
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
just getting going
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
but these guys are bumblebutts. is this for real?

oh ok hes on. hi rufus make me money.

quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
they just said conversion is being acquired by fronthaul.. TODAY

WOOT!! [Smile]

 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Rufas is finally in the HOUSE!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, its good to see they are doing some company research before their interviews! Geez. We all have the cell # for Rufus we should thump them on the head with it
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
stock you better watch that language
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
nevermind, lol...
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Ben Stanley on also
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Ben is finnally in the HOUSE!
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
keep us updated on what is going on.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
he said 2.6 pps by friday if i heared right ?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
BB if you can translate bumblebutt for us it would be great!! [Smile]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
not much yet!! small talk
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
There will be a cert recall.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Rufus just said on air that they are going with option C. YEEEHAAHHH
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
rufus is talking about the same A B and C options he already talked about. He needs to be more confident, he talks like he has no idea what he is about to say...
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
stock price will be 15$
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
90-100 days in the market before the price change kicks in?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
500million bond has 13.6 interest rate--good cash flow
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
if he is kidding us right now i think he has not many days to live lol
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
us-issued global bond from republic of venezuela (13.6% interest for 500 mil)
+
UCC note
=
800 mil
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
There will be a cert recall. This is getting really screwed up by these interviewers.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
90-100 days in the market before the price change kicks in?

BB..what are you saying...that long until the price change?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
did u hear the commentators pause when they asked what the cvsu market cap was before the merger and rufus said...
1.6 billion
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
share price is tanking. He better come out with positive news.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Whatever is happening the pps isnt reflecting great things. I hate this part. [Smile]
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Hope we do not tank much more today!!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
this will go down and i wished i did buy just before the interview..i better stayed in wwen
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Are are mm's trying to scare us out of our $15 a share with a big shake? or is everyone selling off cause they don't wanna wait 3-4 months?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
after the merger you'll need to hold for 90-100 days to get the $15 or something like that. im not clear on it. i just type what he says.

...for the conversion to complete or something.


quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
90-100 days in the market before the price change kicks in?

BB..what are you saying...that long until the price change?

 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Hey 10!!!1

I'm commin over and peein on your chicken!!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
fhal guys better move to wwen imo now
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks BB...
 
Posted by Hustla on :
 
Jesus Christ this thing is tanking. Rufus get off your azz and spit some good news
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Rufus is explaining how all of us can go and see proof of the 500mil bond!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Hey 10!!!1

I'm commin over and peein on your chicken!!

LOL...
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
this is not good at all what i see,i can not even sell because they don't take it
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
You guys these sells are being bought up way too fast...something is not right...they are being bout SUPER quick!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
omg do they have any idea what this interview is doing to their pps while they speak???

or maybe they do? are they still buying back?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Watch the thousands dwindle. He better explain himself a little better if he thinks this conference was supposed to be good! He just TANKED us
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
after the merger you'll need to hold for 90-100 days to get the $15 or something like that. im not clear on it. i just type what he says.

...for the conversion to complete or something.


quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
90-100 days in the market before the price change kicks in?

BB..what are you saying...that long until the price change?

That is for CVSU shareholders!
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Not what I was hoping for at end of day!!
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
when were truckers becoming CEO turning stocks into POS
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
15$ by 28 th or 1 st of month not 120days
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
omg do they have any idea what this interview is doing to their pps while they speak???

or maybe they do? are they still buying back?

I dont think they realize it at all. Im just gonna sit back and watch it happen. Not much i can do now except hope that Rufus know what he is doing.
 
Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
Could NOT sell.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
something not right here and i had that feeling for days... it was too good to be true and they teached me that lesson when i was young
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
he just nixed that... says the reorg will happen in their window between the 28th & the 1st

and it will go to $15 and be trading at that right away.


quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
after the merger you'll need to hold for 90-100 days to get the $15 or something like that. im not clear on it. i just type what he says.

...for the conversion to complete or something.


quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
90-100 days in the market before the price change kicks in?

BB..what are you saying...that long until the price change?

That is for CVSU shareholders!

 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
15$ as scheduled
 
Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
Did they read the XKEM pump and dump play book?
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
GOT SOME AT 1.09
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Gotta laugh to keep from crying!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
He is basically garanteeing $15 a share at the open of CVSU ticker and people sell. UNREAL!
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
1.05 ANYONE?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
IS it going to be 100 days??????
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
cant sell if no one is buying tho. so somebody is buying...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I can't get the radio program, so I'm just blindly watching the PPS go down.

Thanks you guys for at least posting some of it. But it doesn't make sense that the share price is dropping based on what you've got here so far.

Jo
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
Got some more at 1.03
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I think I just crapped my pants. I kept all of mine cause I couldn't chase it fast enough. So I will be buying more tomorrow if this is cleared up.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
He stated they were calling in all certs for exchange. He did not stipulate FHAL or CVSU to my knowledge.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
WTF just happened?????????????
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I am holding and buying this is still great news... he just reiterated that symbol change is first of month and FHAL share holders will be able to trade following the symbole change.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Nice of him to say that AFTER we tanked and moments before the bell. What a weenie.

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
he just nixed that... says the reorg will happen in their window between the 28th & the 1st

and it will go to $15 and be trading at that right away.


quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
after the merger you'll need to hold for 90-100 days to get the $15 or something like that. im not clear on it. i just type what he says.

...for the conversion to complete or something.


quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
90-100 days in the market before the price change kicks in?

BB..what are you saying...that long until the price change?

That is for CVSU shareholders!


 
Posted by Stock on :
 
bunch of idiots Rufus and his girlfriend are...they were unable to answer shareholder questions with direct numbers...how can u answer a shareholder " i havent heared of that" while talking about YOUR OWN COMPANY...this is pathetic...log deal was a total scam in other words thats what he answered in a more respectful way.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
NDOL anyone? sell and it goes right back up?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
whats this asset-based lending chit?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
WTF just happened?????????????

People don't know how to listen! VERY GOOD NEWS
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
WTF just happened?????????????

People don't know how to listen! VERY GOOD NEWS
very good news needs to be delivered ina GOOD way for it to reach the ear and sound like good news...u cant answer saying YES , NO, CORRECT at each question...ur a god damn CEO, speak smart and sound smart, not caugh every second cuz u dont know the words to use...pathetic
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Guess I should have sold a little more this morning..oops!
 
Posted by stanbill on :
 
Looks like FHAL is dumping big time!
Lost $.50 at the close?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
NDOL anyone? sell and it goes right back up?
oooh, crab, I remember that cause I was one who sold NDOL in a panic at .71 then it went back up to $1.00. Maybe I should be glad that my attempts to sell FHAL on the way down did not go through.

Course, we all know what happenned to NDOL later.

Jo
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
GUY'S, WE ARE IN EXCELLENT SHAPE, EVERYTHING IS THE SAME..........
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
This is EXACTLY what happened about a month ago with RXPC - stock price was about .10, they announced basically a similar move, and the PPS tanked to .02. Assuming everything happens as they promise, it is a windfall, but I think most people vacate because they don't want their trading money tied up....unless they have tons of it.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, we had some confusion earlier regarding the 8k that screwed up pps for a few days, can we hope that this is what happened? If there was nothing straight up negative about the interview then people must have panicked over confusion.

It just bugs me that we were holding firm for DAYS before this ridiculous interview killed us. Id like to sell now and get back in after it hits bottom but i think ill wait and see what the confusion is first.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
excellent!!just panic
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
Ben stanley really sounds like he doesnt know what hes saying.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
oooh, crab, I remember that cause I was one who sold NDOL in a panic at .71 then it went back up to $1.00. Maybe I should be glad that my attempts to sell FHAL on the way down did not go through.

Course, we all know what happenned to NDOL later.

Jo

yeah i know...i did the same thing...i couldn't sell all of this anyhow...only could get rid of 600 shares in the 1.20's, lol...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I bought more at 1.04...Hope it works right...LMAO...if Rufas does another radio boradcast..I'm sellin' before the show!
 
Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
.59 and probably would have gone further, but the market closed.


quote:
Originally posted by stanbill:
Looks like FHAL is dumping big time!
Lost $.50 at the close?


 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Smart idea....
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I admit that I tried to sell. But no one was buying... We need to wipe M N 1.com off the map forever. Thats two interviews, and two price tanks.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I bought more at 1.04...Hope it works right...LMAO...if Rufas does another radio boradcast..I'm sellin' before the show!

Pissen in your brownies too!!!!
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Do you think M N 1 works for the MMs?
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
NO MORE INTERVIEWS PLEASE!!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Originally posted by me [Smile]
quote:
posted July 25, 2006 11:28
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Could go either way. But with the conference moved to EOD, people will have less time to ponder the news and more time to panic. (panic buy, panic sell? Which will it be? LOL

Guess we now know which way THAT went!

Will they have this on their archives. I couldn't pick it up and I'm real curious as to what caused this sell off.

Jo
 
Posted by bobcat88 on :
 
I'm down $5700 at the bell, damn that happened fast.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
just d u m b a s s e s we are still OK!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Someone get Rufus on the line and tell him that he needs to do another interview at traders corner to try and save his shareholders from this debacle.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Im ---> <---- close to calling good ole Rufus again and asking him wtf he was thinking.

Tomorrow we begin to rebuild. I still have SOME faith left.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
correct you do get 15$
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
P ROWDS,

Make a CALL. He needs to straighten this mess out.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
cant get a clearer Q & A than that.

if i hold my shares at $1 then one day it will open at $15 and i dont have to do anything?

affirmative.
yes.

straight from their mouths.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so what do you think BB?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Caller asked do we need to do anything, and RUFUS and BEN both said no, all you have to do is hold it and our brokers will take care of it and it should be very smooth. I can't beleive it, MN 1 SUCKS, they need to do their homework before they bring guests on. I hope some held because this thing is going to FLY tomorrow.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
just a big f-en bumpinthe road!
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Seems like it may move back up tomorrow...
MM, especially ARCA were grabbing shares like crazy...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
rufus says there were only 23 mil shares in the float to trade, and they know of people that have a lot of those shares that are holding.

discussing short interest now.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
cant get a clearer Q & A than that.

if i hold my shares at $1 then one day it will open at $15 and i dont have to do anything?

affirmative.
yes.

straight from their mouths.

Yea, and thats the only thing that kept my finger off the trigger. Im still in shock a bit but tomorrow is a new day.

WWEN rallied in the end though. Picking up FHAL cash? [Smile]
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
There were huge block buys in the lower 1's.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
WHATCH WHAT HAPPENS BETWEEN 28th and 1 st is what they just said!!!
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
Guys.. I think a LOT of this selling is because of the windfall taking place at WWEN! They have over 1.6 - 1.7 billion in orders after their successful testing of their alternative fuel! They announced a book value of $17.50 per share! Check it out.. WWEN. Up over 200% today and will be gapping heavily in the AM.

I sold FHAL last week when I heard the COO talk. He sounds like he is from the woods lol.

Seriously, check out WWEN in the A.M. and get it all back tomorrow.. they are the real deal.

Great site too! www.w2energy.com

You will become a believer once you do the DD!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
just a big f-en bumpinthe road!

Well I tell ya what there Mr Bump!!!!

No support till .90 .75 then .60!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
This is ridiculous.... I couldn't get through to listen to the show, people were panicking, the price was dropping, someone posted that the merger wouldn't happen for 90-100 days. Unreal. Can someone post what was said in this travesty of an interview?
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Buying tomorrow morning!!
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
I don't feel so bad taking my $2K loss at $1.42 now.

It would of sucked having held it all the way down to $1.02
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey guys where is all the confidence in this stock gone? everybody paniced just like they did last interview, including members of this board, they will clear it up and everything will be ok, last interview everyoned was selling and it was a scam and guess what it went up again, from what i am hearing we are still getting the 15, so what is there to worry about, who cares if its tomorrow or next week or 120 days its still alot of money,
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
i'm buying more too!!
 
Posted by Rules on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
cant get a clearer Q & A than that.

if i hold my shares at $1 then one day it will open at $15 and i dont have to do anything?

affirmative.
yes.

straight from their mouths.

Don't bank on your conversion of $1 to turn into $15 without a change in shares. If it was guaranteed, then EVERYONE would be buying all the shares up. The problem with the close was that yes indeed it is panic selling. Meaning if and when this one goes under a dollar, you could see some serious selling off similar to what we seen with NDOL.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
what i think...

nothing changed really.

rufus just reiterated in public another time that our shares will be worth $15 by the 1st of aug.

i think we saw serious panic selling. and i think people will realize nothing is gonna change before the 28th so tomorrow theyll start buying and flipping again.

i think we'll go back up fast.

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
so what do you think BB?


 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Lots of things that raise questions:

1. Are we to believe that thousands of stockholders were able to listen to this radio program. And at the very moment the execs came on began selling their shares.

I'd venture a guess that lots of folks are at work, and others don't even watch the stock daily to know to listen to this interview.

2. Interesting that the interview was moved to coincide with the EOD. So those who did see this fast moving downward action, didn't have time to think it through.

3. I wasn't able to listen, but are we to believe that Rufus has gone from a confident, inteligent man to a bumbling idiot in one week?

Jo

Edited to add: We know that even though they said they had "bought the float", we knew that to be impossible because if they had, what were we trading. I think this whole interview and the way it was set up and conducted was a ploy to get the stocks in the float back into the market, so they can purchase them.
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
Guys.. I think a LOT of this selling is because of the windfall taking place at WWEN! They have over 1.6 - 1.7 billion in orders after their successful testing of their alternative fuel! They announced a book value of $17.50 per share! Check it out.. WWEN. Up over 200% today and will be gapping heavily in the AM.

I sold FHAL last week when I heard the COO talk. He sounds like he is from the woods lol.

Seriously, check out WWEN in the A.M. and get it all back tomorrow.. they are the real deal.

Great site too! www.w2energy.com

You will become a believer once you do the DD!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
tried to buy some at 1, but it never got down there.

Rufus and Ben are still on with the idiots at M N 1
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey guys where is all the confidence in this stock gone? everybody paniced just like they did last interview, including members of this board, they will clear it up and everything will be ok, last interview everyoned was selling and it was a scam and guess what it went up again, from what i am hearing we are still getting the 15, so what is there to worry about, who cares if its tomorrow or next week or 120 days its still alot of money,
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
not even close to NDOL!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Could someone please give us an accurate reading of the L2's. Some people have been saying that there was no support until .50 others say that there was support over $1.00.
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
try to listen now
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
WWEN is going to the AMEX soon too!!

www.w2energy.com

This is a hot area now with gas over $3!!

FHAL money is moving into WWEN!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
FHAL money is moving into WWEN!!

Most of us couldn't get our money out.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I am looking at this as the absolute best shake ever. The weakleens and flippers just left the building!!! I am moving funds for a big rake tomorrow.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
have many investers ready to come on board!all sub's will spin off revenues back to merged co.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
could you please keep your promotional spam in the appropriate thread?

some of us are trying to listen to a conference here...

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by iloverufus:
WWEN is going to the AMEX soon too!!


 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
1.5 billion in investment capital.
 
Posted by Bland on :
 
FHAL podcast will be available by 4:00 Central Time.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Anyone who can turn c r a p to energy should go to AMEX.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I just sold off deadbeat stagnant stocks to give me a little cash to play with tomorrow. I think im over my panic and id like to grab a few more shares in the morning.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Finally got through to the show.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Doniboy, trust me everything that has been said has been GREAT! There has been a lot of confusion because 6 people are trying to talk at once. Rufus said himself that all we have to do is hold our shares, between the 28th and 1st it will change to CVSU and start at $15. All we have to do is wait. He said they are going to do option C. Rufus has said that it is very similar to an IPO. Rufus is saying that it is hi job to maintain the $15 price and they have the ASSETS to do so. They are even talking about buying back the shares that people sell after the ticker symbol change. He is VERY confident in what he has and I will hold even after the merger, they have a sheet load of money in the works!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
whats the tax reorganization plan that the merger qualifies for?
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
already had it's run,,,that's to FUNNY!!LOL!!

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Wow, some chick is on there now who said she borrowed money against her house to buy this. She sounds scared to death.
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
Sorry Babe! [Smile]

Just SERIOUSLY trying to help some of the FHAL investors out who held this today.. I sold FHAL and bought WWEN today only to see if hit .28! This is going to $1 easy and more.. check it out!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Rufus said that if she doesn't get at least $15 a share he will pay her himself.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
nevermind
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
awsome promise!!
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Wow, some chick is on there now who said she borrowed money against her house to buy this. She sounds scared to death.

he promised her 15 a share but said it might not get sold when she want to sell cuz its a free market...if no one to buy, ur sell wont go through

=

OWNED!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
WOW Rufas is AWESOME!!! You should hear what he just told a caller. It was totally amazing.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I'll tell you what happenned to me on the way down. I had an buy order in from earlier this morning over in my IRA account to purchase shares at $1.30. As I watched this stock tank downward, I suddenly remembered that account.

The PPS was already at $1.27 when I noticed, but I hightailed it into my other account, and the buy order had not gone through. By that time the PPS was down below 1.25.

Seems odd cause normally, I am not able to catch things like that. The buy would usually have gone through immediately.

So WHO is buying?

Jo
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
This stock is the most fun you can have with out being naked [Big Grin]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
man, cant get more blatant than this - he's guaranteeing $15 over & over
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
exactly TaxBack! It's like in the end of the "Back to the Future" movie where Doc turns trash into FUEL for his time machine..lol.

It's sick.. but dude.. it's the future! Check it out! www.w2energy.com
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Rufus said that if she doesn't get at least $15 a share he will pay her himself.

Bbaawwhaaaa?!!? He just never stops!! [Eek!]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
this confusion is going to make some poeple alot of green
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
It should recover 20-30% tomorrow when we put the interview in perspective again.

Something's just too weird with the interview... like Jo points out.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I just got in this interview and the moderators are a bunch of idiots.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
bet you these dumb a s se s will never be alowed to speak again!!!!!LOL!!LOL!!!
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
go milliam
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Yeah, I think tomorrow morning will start out pretty well. At least, we have already had buy at $1.30 and mm's lining up to sell above 1.40..
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Hey iloverufus ,
This is not a WWEN forum.
You don't have to spam 3-4 times.
We get the idea.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruthie:
Yeah, I think tomorrow morning will start out pretty well. At least, we have already had buy at $1.30 and mm's lining up to sell above 1.40..

how can you see that? I have the buy at 1.30 but how can you see the sells lining up?
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
I think tommorow will be another Big Red day. I saw this comming early in the morning when the Block Sells were popping up on the trading alerts in MicroCapTrade.

There were a Total of 45 Block Sells today and Only 3 block buys, at the highs 1.64 and 1.60 OUCH !!! I feel for the 3 who bought huge orders at those prices.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
If the pps goes to 15 ( HE PROMISED TO PUT HIS BALLS ON THE FRYER ) the day it opens after the merger, how can the stock hold...and if EVERYONE sells...who is going to be buying for those sell orders to go through...Rufus is going to get his house egged and Ben's car TP'ed
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
pr to follow!alot of shorters!!
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
just checked on quotemedia.com
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Rufus says that they have already lined up instutions and that if the price starts to tank, they will do a buy-back.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
yes you will be able to trade right away !!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
it could happen today!!the change!
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruthie:
Yeah, I think tomorrow morning will start out pretty well. At least, we have already had buy at $1.30 and mm's lining up to sell above 1.40..

Mabey not, the reason this tanked is that there were 45 Block Sales, and only 3 Block Buys today. When the big traders sell out, Usally it continues to tank.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Did anyone hear about the 10K filing???
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
What pr? SYGY
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Rufus has got to be getting tired of answering the same questions over and over. People are asking almost the same things! I can see some confusion, but like now...he having to tell someone that the Amazon deal is no good.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
yes you will be able to trade right away !!!

who do u expect to buy ur sell orders at 15 ? thats what i mean...its a free market...all he is promising is that it will eb at 15, u can "sell" or should i say "try to sell"...but who is gona buy your shares at that level
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
I thought the 10K should be out today or thursday the latest..
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
i think we see big PR tomorrow morning!!these guys are brutal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I have a feeling that Rufus has a plan to have people buying on the day it starts trading. He will keep the pps up.
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
in my opinion these guys are a bunch of yahoo's guaranteeing a share price...NOBODY can guarantee ANYTHING in the stock market..the more he guarantees it , the more obvious it is a bluff.....people are starting to realize that..
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
they say they have 500 mil cash in europe and 500k in usa
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
i think we see big PR tomorrow morning!!these guys are brutal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

can u stop pumpin and answer my question...its getting ennoying
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Analyst said that the last time he saw a stock shorted this much, it went to over $70 before the squeeze was done.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
what!!!!question!!???
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
It was a misunderstanding about the 90-100 days.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
It was obvious this morning that this was gonna tank big time, Tommorow it should do the same. MOMO is gone. And so are the Big Traders.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Stock,

The first couple of days I say the stock falls to around $10 or $8. He then will bring in the inst. to start buying and funding his projects. The PRs that he will be putting out will attract new investors to buy. The stock price will go back up in a matter of days. JMO
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
He's only guaranteeing $15 at the open. Not that you can sell for $15. He did say that he can almost guarantee $15 though...he feels it will hold up.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
i lost huge today what am i pumping!!today was stupid,,this will go back up!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
10K will show value of the subs. - from Rufas's mouth.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
what!!!!question!!???

"who do u expect to buy ur sell orders at 15 ? thats what i mean...its a free market...all he is promising is that it will eb at 15, u can "sell" or should i say "try to sell"...but who is gona buy your shares at that level"
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
it could happen today!!the change!

and you said...

"yes you will be able to trade right away !!!"

they can't change to the new symbol until the S4 is filed...and you will not be able to trade until your broker recieves the notice from the SEC that there is indeed a symbol change...that will take a day or 2 to complete!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Its finally over now.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
BATMAN,

I just answered it. Now move on to something else.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
i lost huge today what am i pumping!!today was stupid,,this will go back up!

This is gonna tank again, It was obvious at opening bell today. Why can't you see that.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
And it is over... and the moderators are now comenting. The analyst in the studio is in awe, and is trying to rationalize it.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
It was obvious this morning that this was gonna tank big time, Tommorow it should do the same. MOMO is gone. And so are the Big Traders.

oh yea it was obvious....riiiight. duh i mean it hit higher than yesterday's HOD. What tanked it is not the fact it was obvious to you. its the delivery these 2 god damn rednecks had as CEOs. It was at 1.57 right before they started opening their lips, as soon as one of them started sounding like he is having a heart attack and having a hard time answering, it went down the sh1tter...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Batman,

What price are you looking at getting in?? Do you still need fear to get your price.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
he's promising financial institutional's to buy in !!! after merger change!!to buy up shares for treasury,,,you will be able to sell if you choose,but i think it will go past that! 15$
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
In any case, this will be an interesting stock to watch.
I'll have to see how Rufus can pull this rabbit out of his hat.
His conversation skills with the funding institutions better be a whole lot better than his interview with ***.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
lot of BLOCK SELLS are comming through, no BLOCK BUYS,On the microcap trading alerts

I told you at 9:38 AM that huge block sales were comming in, I was out at HOD, I just don't like the pumping when this is obvious.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
thanks batman......... now you can say "I told you so".
 
Posted by yayplaya on :
 
so you guys think this stock will be tradin alongside INTEL which is about $17 a share??
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I bought more at 1.04...Hope it works right...LMAO...if Rufas does another radio boradcast..I'm sellin' before the show!

Pissen in your brownies too!!!!
Dude...are you buyin dinner? you have pissed in everything but the potatoes...and I don't want to know what you are going to do to those...LMAO...

This is fine guys...everyone take a deep breath and hold on...(maumee...you should use the bathroom more)
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Wow, some chick is on there now who said she borrowed money against her house to buy this. She sounds scared to death.

NEVER DO THAT!!!!!! never take loans to try your luck on the stock market!!!!
This made my stomach turn, poor woman
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
these m n 1 guys are just as brutal!!!!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
why did rufus go on this show? why jeopardize the pps like this?

seems too obvious.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
ya BETTING BABE today is unreal ,this has to be a set up!! or a bad dream!
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
Look.. not trying to SPAM. Just saying that WWEN has the SAME potential and is the superior stock! Check out their website and read the PRs.. www.w2energy.com. Uo over 200% today and heading north to $1 this week!

Why get sick over whether this will open at $15 or whether Rufus will be out the door in the next week or two?? I held this stock and also remember reading where Rufus talked about how he was going to retired in 3 months.. he sounds like someone who is pumping his company to get out and leave the rest behind IMO. Be careful..

SERIOUSLY, check out WWEN. It would not hurt.. closed at .28, up 200%+ on over 16 mil shares traded!
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Someone posted it would be available on a podcast. Anyone know what it will be titled or how to find it?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
WWEN has there own thread ,do they not!!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
these m n 1 guys are very brutal!!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Hmmm, I wonder if there's another stock out there with this much potential. I really wish someone would tell us all about it [Frown] .
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
iloverufus, WWEN does look great from here...the next FHAL-TYPE run
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iloverufus:
Look.. not trying to SPAM. Just saying that WWEN has the SAME potential and is the superior stock! Check out their website and read the PRs.. www.w2energy.com. Uo over 200% today and heading north to $1 this week!

Why get sick over whether this will open at $15 or whether Rufus will be out the door in the next week or two?? I held this stock and also remember reading where Rufus talked about how he was going to retired in 3 months.. he sounds like someone who is pumping his company to get out and leave the rest behind IMO. Be careful..

SERIOUSLY, check out WWEN. It would not hurt.. closed at .28, up 200%+ on over 16 mil shares traded!

I am sure this stock is good, but a lot of us have headaches now, some of us sh1t thier pants, and we can hardley breathe, I am sure we will look at it when we catch our breath.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
good post 4bidon!
 
Posted by STOCKGANGSTA on :
 
On July, 12 2006 TheStockMafia.com Recieved $250,000 in cash from a Third Party Source. To Profile "Fronthaul Group" in Thestockmafia.com On July 12 TheStockMafia.com purchased 150,000 shares in the open market at $0.20 average and plans to sell them on the future by Daytrading the Stock In and out.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
There will be a cert recall.

anybody know who this guy is?
 
Posted by STOCKGANGSTA on :
 
man thoose guys got alot of money for profiling it ..
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
double whammmmmy ,,here come the dar n b as he r s
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by STOCKGANGSTA:
On July, 12 2006 TheStockMafia.com Recieved $250,000 in cash from a Third Party Source. To Profile "Fronthaul Group" in Thestockmafia.com On July 12 TheStockMafia.com purchased 150,000 shares in the open market at $0.20 average and plans to sell them on the future by Daytrading the Stock In and out.

Can you explain again?? I'm lost.
 
Posted by STOCKGANGSTA on :
 
not really sure but i dont know who paid that site that money to prfile it
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
the whole m n 1 thing was brutal!!!!that's all i have to say!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
anybody saying different""""""is just as f -up
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Newbie7:
Hey iloverufus ,
This is not a WWEN forum.
You don't have to spam 3-4 times.
We get the idea.

Peaking of WWEN, I sold 1k of FHAL this morning and got in to WWEN * .12 and it closed * .275 ??

Not a bad decision.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
I don't get how this interview tanked the PPS so quickly...most of us couldn't even get the feed. How many shareholders could have been listening?
 
Posted by Bland on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Someone posted it would be available on a podcast. Anyone know what it will be titled or how to find it?

I work for *** and FHAL is my client... the Podcast will be availible very soon... under an hour. Do a search under downlaods section for FHAL.

Thanks,
Stinson Bland
469.385.9855 X845
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
I don't get how this interview tanked the PPS so quickly...most of us couldn't even get the feed. How many shareholders could have been listening?

a LOT obviousely...and its not the shareholers who move the price, its the MMs...the shareholders like us sell from panic and end up with their pants down
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Thank you bland. Who do you work for and who is the client? spell it out with spaces between letters or something.
 
Posted by Bland on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Thank you bland. Who do you work for and who is the client? spell it out with spaces between letters or something.

M N 1 . C O M
Market News First
Client: FHAL
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
m n 1
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
No glassman...he's been a member for a while...but just started posting on FHAL...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
lol
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Let me bring this up again. Rufus said that he talked to an analyst who's looked into FHAL. The analyst said last time he saw a stock shorted this much, it went to $75 on the short covering.

I'm not real sure if this means much to us, but if this has been shorted as much as Rufus believes, this thing should rocket up over the next week. From what I gather, the shorts will have to cover before the symbol change.

One thing that bothered me...Rufus said he didn't care if they covered or not (and went bankrupt due to it). If a MM's can't cover, can I loose my shares???
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
I got a stop in for .90 just in case this goes down more. Wish I had dumped all * 1.50
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I've heard I can put a sell order in and that will make my broker get my shares back (if they are shorted). Any truth to this?
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
The stock could trade at 15 bucks the first minute because Rufus and his girlfriend Ben can have a trade at 15 bucks and tell us "SEE WE PROMISED 15!" and it can come back down to its TRUE value...which is below a buck.
Thats being REALISTIC
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
hope I posted on the other thread, and not here: anybody know if Mp3 will be available of today's *** episode?
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Who's Taxback04?
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
I got a stop in for .90 just in case this goes down more. Wish I had dumped all * 1.50

that goes for all of us...this is going to gap down and keep falling because all that stoped it from droping more was the Bell...FHAL was saved by the bell, tomorrow more panic sells and just people that dont want to see their initial profits taken away will sell.
To be honest...Fhal is just another shell...they dont have nothing to prove us and nothing we can do about it. IMMUNITY to otc/pink CEOS
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Doniboy, did you get your pants cleaned yet, today was a deciding factor for me, while everyone was selling I made up my mind to hold, no matter what. I hope this thing takes off like a rocket tomorrow, and people learn to listen a little more carefully. JMO
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
Can you quote any information that would confirm its true value is below a dollar? Im a bit skeptical on the $15 thing too, but if they do have all these assets, contracts, sub contracts, and jv companies, then they would definitely be worth more than $1.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Tex, read Blands post at the end of the last page on podcast
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Tex, read Blands post at the end of the last page on podcast

mil gracias
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
They did not say there's going to be cert recall!
Someone wants the pps to go down!
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Igor R:
Can you quote any information that would confirm its true value is below a dollar? Im a bit skeptical on the $15 thing too, but if they do have all these assets, contracts, sub contracts, and jv companies, then they would definitely be worth more than $1.

they dont have to hold nothing above 1 dollar...it is NOW trading at one buck...in couple of days its supposed to be worth 15 bucks...who is going to come up with the money to give each shareholder 14 bucks for their 1 dollar share. How is it going to hold at that price if everyone wants OUT after the merger...there is NOHTING fhal can do to maintain a market value above where its at right now...nothing. ONE trade and ONE trade only at 15pps is all thats needed to confirm all they said...and then, well then just go to google and look for the defenition of the word " PWNED "
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Stock - just curious, you holdin' shares here?
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
his name is Rufus NOT Santa, he is not going to make YOU money while his assets are on the line, for all I know, Rufus is actually Bob, and Bob is a 50 year old pedo who needs more money to buy camcorders...this is OTC, a CEO CANNOT GARANTEE ANYTHING, its a free market, the market isnt going to "correct" the price to hold it somewhere arround 15..no way in HELL
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Stock - just curious, you holdin' shares here?

yes i am holding, i was going to get rid of them at the 60s level, but the conference being at the EOD made me think " wow, these CEOs are kinda smart, they want an EOD run instead of a run then back to where it was"...but i was wrong, those two guys had a below mediocre delivery and a hard time answering questions.
You live and you learn
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
stock? you are having a nervous breakdown?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by Igor R:
Can you quote any information that would confirm its true value is below a dollar? Im a bit skeptical on the $15 thing too, but if they do have all these assets, contracts, sub contracts, and jv companies, then they would definitely be worth more than $1.

they dont have to hold nothing above 1 dollar...it is NOW trading at one buck...in couple of days its supposed to be worth 15 bucks...who is going to come up with the money to give each shareholder 14 bucks for their 1 dollar share. How is it going to hold at that price if everyone wants OUT after the merger...there is NOHTING fhal can do to maintain a market value above where its at right now...nothing. ONE trade and ONE trade only at 15pps is all thats needed to confirm all they said...and then, well then just go to google and look for the defenition of the word " PWNED "
Your right he isn't going to give us $14. He is going to release the news that he has, which will reflect why this will be trading at or above $15. Do some DD and then you can open your mouth! I don't care if you buy it or not, this company is big and soon every skeptic will be silenced. -Cassity
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:

You live and you learn [/QB]


 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
the hard way with penny's
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by Igor R:
Can you quote any information that would confirm its true value is below a dollar? Im a bit skeptical on the $15 thing too, but if they do have all these assets, contracts, sub contracts, and jv companies, then they would definitely be worth more than $1.

they dont have to hold nothing above 1 dollar...it is NOW trading at one buck...in couple of days its supposed to be worth 15 bucks...who is going to come up with the money to give each shareholder 14 bucks for their 1 dollar share. How is it going to hold at that price if everyone wants OUT after the merger...there is NOHTING fhal can do to maintain a market value above where its at right now...nothing. ONE trade and ONE trade only at 15pps is all thats needed to confirm all they said...and then, well then just go to google and look for the defenition of the word " PWNED "
Your right he isn't going to give us $14. He is going to release the news that he has, which will reflect why this will be trading at or above $15. Do some DD and then you can open your mouth! I don't care if you buy it or not, this company is big and soon every skeptic will be silenced. -Cassity
you are so in love with fhal i bet you wear condoms when you trade...my dd is done, all the 2 DOLLARS TODAY didnt happend, so why dont YOU shut your mouth.
i can post w/e i please, its a free country, and i assume a free board as long as i dont break the rules.
fhal is so strong they promised a 1.5 billion dollars for the log deal...hmmmmm right, now they are bankcrupt...makes sense
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
stock?
you aren't making sense any more than you were yesterday when you told us daytrading is EZ....
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock?
you aren't amkng sense

if u quote the part you dont get i can gladly rephrase it.

answer this question: what in the world is going to hold a dollar stock today at 15 dollars...
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock?
you aren't making sense any more than you were yesterday when you told us daytrading is EZ....

i never said easy, i said flipping was when u have been trading the same trend over a week.
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
I think he's just very frustrated...
Most of our profits did went out the window..
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey guys settle down, it is easy to be offended in life and on this board, i was offended earlier, truth of the matter is everybodys got an opinion and everyone is 100% right, but only time will tell and when it does whoever is right at that time they wont have to say a word everyone will know that they were right and next time you post you will have some clout instead of making enemies and getting kicked out of the board, let all the comments be like water on a ducks back,
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
now i'm suspicious too.. damn.. lost a lot of profits.. luckily i got a bit of WWEN to make up for the crash.. =) .. but would have been nice if both had gone up..
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Newbie7:
I think he's just very frustrated...
Most of our profits did went out the window..

im not frustrated, i just like to share my ideas and when people say THIS WILL GAP UP SO HIGH TOMORROW!!! i just like to remind them the price isnt set by their hopes
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iloverufus:
Look.. not trying to SPAM. Just saying that WWEN has the SAME potential and is the superior stock! Check out their website and read the PRs.. www.w2energy.com. Uo over 200% today and heading north to $1 this week!

Why get sick over whether this will open at $15 or whether Rufus will be out the door in the next week or two?? I held this stock and also remember reading where Rufus talked about how he was going to retired in 3 months.. he sounds like someone who is pumping his company to get out and leave the rest behind IMO. Be careful..

SERIOUSLY, check out WWEN. It would not hurt.. closed at .28, up 200%+ on over 16 mil shares traded!

Come on, seriously...how many times are you planning to post that link in here?

Six days of green just dont keep the bashers at bay when a day of red shines in.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by Igor R:
Can you quote any information that would confirm its true value is below a dollar? Im a bit skeptical on the $15 thing too, but if they do have all these assets, contracts, sub contracts, and jv companies, then they would definitely be worth more than $1.

they dont have to hold nothing above 1 dollar...it is NOW trading at one buck...in couple of days its supposed to be worth 15 bucks...who is going to come up with the money to give each shareholder 14 bucks for their 1 dollar share. How is it going to hold at that price if everyone wants OUT after the merger...there is NOHTING fhal can do to maintain a market value above where its at right now...nothing. ONE trade and ONE trade only at 15pps is all thats needed to confirm all they said...and then, well then just go to google and look for the defenition of the word " PWNED "
Your right he isn't going to give us $14. He is going to release the news that he has, which will reflect why this will be trading at or above $15. Do some DD and then you can open your mouth! I don't care if you buy it or not, this company is big and soon every skeptic will be silenced. -Cassity
you are so in love with fhal i bet you wear condoms when you trade...my dd is done, all the 2 DOLLARS TODAY didnt happend, so why dont YOU shut your mouth.
i can post w/e i please, its a free country, and i assume a free board as long as i dont break the rules.
fhal is so strong they promised a 1.5 billion dollars for the log deal...hmmmmm right, now they are bankcrupt...makes sense

Once again, you are showing just how much you don't know. We are not talking about FHAL, we are talking about CVSU, FHAL was a worthless company, CVSU has billions in contracts. The day this is trading at $15, I want you to come to this post and run your mouth! I'm busy at work right now so I don't have time to play childish games. GLTY -Cassity [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
This could tank another 35% tommorow
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
stock....
settle down...

the PPS went to hell cuz somebody posted there would be a 90 -120 day waiting period for the share conversion...

it's a rumor....
 
Posted by Double Diamond on :
 
FYI


FHAL, By PHXGOLD...
Posted by: phxgold
In reply to: faith4more who wrote msg# 13125 Date:7/25/2006 4:51:45 PM
Post #of 13147

Here is the fun part. you have a large naked short you hold a confrence call. bashers line the phones. make it hard to get in to listen so you rely on massage boards. the bashers hit the boards and the mis interpret what is being said. then the mms fake a sell off on minimal volume to induce panic. what a way to cover. m,y advise watch the volume not the price there is a story to be told there. ask yourself this. how hard was it for you to get thru to the cc? or to get it online yourself?
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
That was a killer blow...

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock....
settle down...

the PPS went to hell cuz somebody posted there would be a 90 -120 day waiting period for the share conversion...

it's a rumor....


 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i would just be carefull with this one because nothing is guaranteed...i asked myself the question why this stays around a dollar if the entire float is bought up and 15 is most likely to happen..does someone has a good theory for that to convince me... thats the only thing that bothers me here...and also why does he do so much interviews, it is almost each week and that is not normal imo...
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by Igor R:
Can you quote any information that would confirm its true value is below a dollar? Im a bit skeptical on the $15 thing too, but if they do have all these assets, contracts, sub contracts, and jv companies, then they would definitely be worth more than $1.

they dont have to hold nothing above 1 dollar...it is NOW trading at one buck...in couple of days its supposed to be worth 15 bucks...who is going to come up with the money to give each shareholder 14 bucks for their 1 dollar share. How is it going to hold at that price if everyone wants OUT after the merger...there is NOHTING fhal can do to maintain a market value above where its at right now...nothing. ONE trade and ONE trade only at 15pps is all thats needed to confirm all they said...and then, well then just go to google and look for the defenition of the word " PWNED "
Your right he isn't going to give us $14. He is going to release the news that he has, which will reflect why this will be trading at or above $15. Do some DD and then you can open your mouth! I don't care if you buy it or not, this company is big and soon every skeptic will be silenced. -Cassity
you are so in love with fhal i bet you wear condoms when you trade...my dd is done, all the 2 DOLLARS TODAY didnt happend, so why dont YOU shut your mouth.
i can post w/e i please, its a free country, and i assume a free board as long as i dont break the rules.
fhal is so strong they promised a 1.5 billion dollars for the log deal...hmmmmm right, now they are bankcrupt...makes sense

Once again, you are showing just how much you don't know. We are not talking about FHAL, we are talking about CVSU, FHAL was a worthless company, CVSU has billions in contracts. The day this is trading at $15, I want you to come to this post and run your mouth! I'm busy at work right now so I don't have time to play childish games. GLTY -Cassity [Roll Eyes]
we are trading fhal at the moment, so let cvsu come when it comes. i am talking about fhal and not cvsu. its a merger, one has the money to fund the other one is bankrupt. i will be on this thread, just as much as i have been on it when people were saying OMG ITS FLYING!! 2 DOLLARS AT THE CLOSE!
prove me how is the pps going to hold itself at 15 after everyone sells it. You are going to hold and buy someone's position at 15 ? lol let me know, ill be arround [Smile]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock....
settle down...

the PPS went to hell cuz somebody posted there would be a 90 -120 day waiting period for the share conversion...

it's a rumor....

Glass, I'm also seeing posts now of "billions" in contracts for CVSU...musta missed some stuff--what's the contracts info?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock?
you aren't amkng sense

if u quote the part you dont get i can gladly rephrase it.

answer this question: what in the world is going to hold a dollar stock today at 15 dollars...

Could be the book value of the company and all of the institutions that could buy into it? This was the basic explaination given by Rufus. We are STILL waiting on financials that could answer that question so just relax and wait because no one here has that answer for you.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
This was posted on the other thread...we all agree that the interview sucked...it sucked the last time they did it...why would it be different this time around..LOL..Rufas is not a public speaker...but i found this post encouraging yesterday...My question is what has changed?

redmax
Member


Member Rated:
posted July 24, 2006 10:46 PM
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OK, I thought I would put together a post with basically everything you need to know as to why this stock will more then likely soar:

CVSU is merging into FHAL. FHAL acts as the shell company, where CVSU is practically buying the shell (FHAL) an already established and listed corporation, for next to nothing. Basically it is a cheap way for CVSU to IPO themselves, not having to worry about underwritters, lengthy delays, etc.

Now, The book value of the Merged company is $7.21 as of the last filing. This will probably go up to the $20+ range when the 10q is filed and all the spinoffs and deals are factored in.

The stock price is guaranteed to hit $15.00 by Monday as the company will be resetting the price at that, atleast this is according to the CEO and the 8k filed with the SEC last week.

Now the #1 question I see is "What will keep the share price at $15.00" Of course it is not guaranteed to stay at a certain price once it is reset, however most stocks trade at 2-8 times mulitple of the book value. Even if the book value is $7.21 like it was in the last filing (which will be lower then the actual value IMO), that would put the share price at between $15-$60 right off the bat.

Another thing I wanted to note is that the current Float according to the company and TA is approximately 20 million shares. This is big IMO, since over half the float traded today alone.

Now the next thing I hear all the time is "This is too good to be true" Well, Check out this link and notice how FHAL falls right next to these stocks in that they too are acting as a shell for a larger successful company. http://www.shellstockreview.com/ssr-Home.html

As you can see, this is the real thing folks. IMO there is very little chance buying into this stock could lose you money. Atleast for under $15.00.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock....
settle down...

the PPS went to hell cuz somebody posted there would be a 90 -120 day waiting period for the share conversion...

it's a rumor....

im sure more people HEARED Rufus DENY that than people reading the other rumor...at least i would assume sane people did.
and btw...im settled down and been, its just how i talk
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock?
you aren't amkng sense

if u quote the part you dont get i can gladly rephrase it.

answer this question: what in the world is going to hold a dollar stock today at 15 dollars...

Could be the book value of the company and all of the institutions that could buy into it? This was the basic explaination given by Rufus. We are STILL waiting on financials that could answer that question so just relax and wait because no one here has that answer for you.
why would an institution buy into a stock that is going to be heavily sold off at its opening at 15 as expected ? lol
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey guys i got a lesson i think we might learn, next time there is an interview we sell everything and buy back the next day, tomorrow we can see it this is a good idea, if it goes up tomorrow
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock....
settle down...

the PPS went to hell cuz somebody posted there would be a 90 -120 day waiting period for the share conversion...

it's a rumor....

I seriously doubt any post on this board made it tank that far. There was confusion and people panicked. Batman, sell are your shares...someone will buy them. Stock, sell yours too...theyre not doing you any good obviously. If it tanks more tomorrow then personally send me a message reminding me of it, but NOT unless you sell your shares and move on your merry way.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I listened to the whole interview. Where the problem started was that Rufus was cut off in the middle of answering a question and people thought they would have to hold the stock for 90 to a 120 days before they could trade. That is not the case. The conversion of all stock certificates, especially those from CVSU holders could take that long for various reason. Rufus stated that it will be a simple change in symbol and cusip # that should be able to be handled electronically by brokers. In the case of CVSU shareholders they will need to have their certs and have them first changed to FHAL before they are change to the new symbol(CVSU.OB) and cusip #. Scottrade has told me it would happen over night. Like I believe Scottrade, I know it will take at least a day and will be calling to put pressure on them.

Selling always creates panic and panic creates more selling. This will open at $15 what happens in the marketplace after that will be the same thing that happens with any stock we put our money into. The amount of buyers VS Sellers will determine where the PPS ends up. There is no guarantee you will be able to sell for $15. I have never heard of a guaranteed sell. Is there any stock anyone nows owns that they are guaranteed to be able to sell at a certain price? I don't think so.

You all have to remember that there are different forces that are working in the market. Some that want to see the PPS skyrocket and others who want to see it crash. IMO, It's much easier to help it crash than too force it up.

It has been reported that there is a huge short position in this stock that will create a short squeeze, take that for whatever it is worth. We have seen it have affects on outhers and have since it have no affect and some.

This has always been a risk/reward play. It is no different. I will say this though, Those who believe it is only worth .10 are basing that solely on FHAL and not taking into account any assets or value from CVSU. I think it sould settle in the $5 area after the merger. Let's see how many of us would be willing to risk buying a stock for under $2 that could possibly go up to $5. Everyone. The biggest problem is that all the discussion centers around $15 and whether we can get that. IMO it should be centered on will this stock be worth more after the change and if so how much.

DO your DD. Only risk what you are comfortable with losing. I am averaged at .38 so for me it's a no brainer. Even if it falls all the way to .75 I still more than double my money. If we Play it smart we might just be able to make some money maybe even more than we can imagine.

If you have not listened to the WHOLE interveiw you really need to.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i don't think you are settled down Stock.... i think you are part of the major effort to trash the stock...

not that i really care... but this play is interesting...


reverse mergers are not simple....
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock?
you aren't amkng sense

if u quote the part you dont get i can gladly rephrase it.

answer this question: what in the world is going to hold a dollar stock today at 15 dollars...

Could be the book value of the company and all of the institutions that could buy into it? This was the basic explaination given by Rufus. We are STILL waiting on financials that could answer that question so just relax and wait because no one here has that answer for you.
why would an institution buy into a stock that is going to be heavily sold off at its opening at 15 as expected ? lol
Well gee, i dont know i havent seen the financials yet. Did you read my post or just skim it?

Where were you guys yesterday? We coulda used the conversation since we barely even watched the pps all day. I would have loved to hear your end of the world speeches while FHAL was going green, it doesnt mean much to me now. sorry. [Smile]
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
hey guys i got a lesson i think we might learn, next time there is an interview we sell everything and buy back the next day, tomorrow we can see it this is a good idea, if it goes up tomorrow

sounds like a good deal especially if the stock used to be a trucking company and the CEO sounds like he belongs behind the the wheel of a Mack.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock....
settle down...

the PPS went to hell cuz somebody posted there would be a 90 -120 day waiting period for the share conversion...

it's a rumor....

Glass, I'm also seeing posts now of "billions" in contracts for CVSU...musta missed some stuff--what's the contracts info?
*BUMPITY*
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock?
you aren't amkng sense

if u quote the part you dont get i can gladly rephrase it.

answer this question: what in the world is going to hold a dollar stock today at 15 dollars...

Could be the book value of the company and all of the institutions that could buy into it? This was the basic explaination given by Rufus. We are STILL waiting on financials that could answer that question so just relax and wait because no one here has that answer for you.
why would an institution buy into a stock that is going to be heavily sold off at its opening at 15 as expected ? lol
Well gee, i dont know i havent seen the financials yet. Did you read my post or just skim it?

Where were you guys yesterday? We coulda used the conversation since we barely even watched the pps all day. I would have loved to hear your end of the world speeches while FHAL was going green, it doesnt mean much to me now. sorry. [Smile]

if u check back i was still here when it was going green, it ran like its been running for the past couple days...whats new? nothing, then we had the 4th grade conference, and suddenly the price just went arghhh...at least it was running good off momo, now the ceo killed it.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i don't think you are settled down Stock.... i think you are part of the major effort to trash the stock...

not that i really care... but this play is interesting...


reverse mergers are not simple....

how can i trash a stock i own ? lol...its just a point of view...its a good thing we all have diffrent views, or we could just move to IHUB and be happy holding bags.
if you dont agree with what i have to say, at least respect it, if you cant, then dont bother reading it. Catch my drift ?
i am settled to remind you again, and i can keep reminding you that is just find with me [Smile]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Wow, I needed a break after that verbal blood bath. I listened to the entire interview including the 30 minutes of mostly negative comentary following and have decided that this is more than just an unusual situation.

Can it be true that we have stumbled on a deal so sweet that even the most experienced of microcap investors are scared out of their twisted shorts.

As I patiently watched this stock tumble I thought to myself why are there so many idiots involved in this stock. Idiots doing the interview, idiots calling in repeatedly to ask if the 10K was going to be filed between the 28th and 30th of July. So many so that I started questioning myself. Can I be this stupid to miss the boat soo bad? That is about when I blacked out and realised I was just being rediculous. I did the DD, I saw the indicators, the book value is good and all in all it is just a merger.

Is it going to stay at 15 on Monday, hmmm... maybe maybe not. Is it going to see 15 ever? Yes, barring dilution and major contract losses. The numbers don't lie, and on Monday every new investor is not going to know who or what FHAL is or ever was. What they are going to see is a severely undervalued stock named Conversion with high volume and shorting out the a** hole. A call on certs will scare the day traders away, but anyone who wants a portion of 17 subs of current significant value are going to grip their shares like a vice and watch the bashers fade like a French offensive.

No, I don't think I will be scared into selling, not only that I encourage bashers and shorters to line up on this stock, because we are both hoping for the same thing tomorrow. An awesome new entry point, I want more cheap shares this is going to look very different in late August. [Cool]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
hey guys i got a lesson i think we might learn, next time there is an interview we sell everything and buy back the next day, tomorrow we can see it this is a good idea, if it goes up tomorrow

sounds like a good deal especially if the stock used to be a trucking company and the CEO sounds like he belongs behind the the wheel of a Mack.
You should get past how he sound and actually listen to what he said. Many today weren't listening. Why do I say that, because they kept asking the same questions that were answered earlier in the interview. Rufus, because of his name and accent, may sound like a bumpkin to you but I disagree with you. I think he knows exactly what he is doing. May be a bit naive especially in the pennystock world but not the dummy you portray him to be.

If you open your mind it's amazing what you can learn.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i don't think you are settled down Stock.... i think you are part of the major effort to trash the stock...

not that i really care... but this play is interesting...


reverse mergers are not simple....

how can i trash a stock i own ? lol...its just a point of view...its a good thing we all have diffrent views, or we could just move to IHUB and be happy holding bags.
if you dont agree with what i have to say, at least respect it, if you cant, then dont bother reading it. Catch my drift ?
i am settled to remind you again, and i can keep reminding you that is just find with me [Smile]

If you are still holding this and believe it to be a bag, then I can stop listening and responding to you right now.

Well, I catch your drift and I call it ignore.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
He confirmed the Air Force contracts, so that's a good thing.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i don't think you are settled down Stock.... i think you are part of the major effort to trash the stock...

not that i really care... but this play is interesting...


reverse mergers are not simple....

how can i trash a stock i own ? lol...its just a point of view...its a good thing we all have diffrent views, or we could just move to IHUB and be happy holding bags.
if you dont agree with what i have to say, at least respect it, if you cant, then dont bother reading it. Catch my drift ?
i am settled to remind you again, and i can keep reminding you that is just find with me [Smile]

how can i trash the stock i own...

yes, that is MY question to YOU... think about it for awhile...

you have been warned numerous times Stock...
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey guys Sam Walton was a country bumpkin, i'd listen to him
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
hey guys i got a lesson i think we might learn, next time there is an interview we sell everything and buy back the next day, tomorrow we can see it this is a good idea, if it goes up tomorrow

sounds like a good deal especially if the stock used to be a trucking company and the CEO sounds like he belongs behind the the wheel of a Mack.
You should get past how he sound and actually listen to what he said. Many today weren't listening. Why do I say that, because they kept asking the same questions that were answered earlier in the interview. Rufus, because of his name and accent, may sound like a bumpkin to you but I disagree with you. I think he knows exactly what he is doing. May be a bit naive especially in the pennystock world but not the dummy you portray him to be.

If you open your mind it's amazing what you can learn.

GLTA
Wally

trust me, i know he KNOWS what he is doing, the problem is, are the shareholders knowing what they are doing....he is obviousely ahead of the market. I learn as i go, i am opened to all opinions, i just like to hear something smart comming out of a ceo i bought shares from, rather than constant studdering. I like a ceo that would build confidence in its shareholders...delivery is important when u are speaking to tens of thousands of people who are holding your shares, the smallest mistake and they are out.
its all i had to say.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Oh...wally, I doubt he's naive.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i don't think you are settled down Stock.... i think you are part of the major effort to trash the stock...

not that i really care... but this play is interesting...


reverse mergers are not simple....

how can i trash a stock i own ? lol...its just a point of view...its a good thing we all have diffrent views, or we could just move to IHUB and be happy holding bags.
if you dont agree with what i have to say, at least respect it, if you cant, then dont bother reading it. Catch my drift ?
i am settled to remind you again, and i can keep reminding you that is just find with me [Smile]

how can i trash the stock i own...

yes, that is MY question to YOU... think about it for awhile...

you have been warned numerous time Stock...

i havent done nothing wrong, point out what i broke and ill understand, you cant warn me for something that didnt even happend lol...i am replying to people quoting me and you are one of them, weather being a mod or not, i will reply as i please without breaking rules. Not because i happend to desagree with someone i need to be warned...thats why i am here instead of IHUB.
be open minded, contradict me, ITS OK, ITS LIFE, GET OVER IT...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock....
settle down...

the PPS went to hell cuz somebody posted there would be a 90 -120 day waiting period for the share conversion...

it's a rumor....

Glass, I'm also seeing posts now of "billions" in contracts for CVSU...musta missed some stuff--what's the contracts info?
*BUMPITY BUMP*

 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
Oh...wally, I doubt he's naive.

Okay but I think you got my drift.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote by milliam:
Rufus has got to be getting tired of answering the same questions over and over. People are asking almost the same things! I can see some confusion, but like now...he having to tell someone that the Amazon deal is no good.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Tex, i don't have any answers yet..just trying to keep the peace here...

Stock is either slow on the uptake or he's a troublemaker..or both...

as far as contracts go? that's waht the bond is there for isn't it?

to secure financing to go do work...

most of these posters don't even seem to know there is such a thing as an SEC filing
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey guys here is a thought, i commented about the website back when this thing was .09, saying it was for truckers, this guy rufus owns this trucking company and runs it well, used to being around truckers, company of a decent size and then bam he is confronted with this multi billion dollar contract and all of a sudden he goes from trucker man to big time multi billion dollar man, and overnite we expect him to be this smooth talking perfect ceo, he might not be used to all this attention and big fancy ceo stuff, but hey its just a thought
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i don't think you are settled down Stock.... i think you are part of the major effort to trash the stock...

not that i really care... but this play is interesting...


reverse mergers are not simple....

how can i trash a stock i own ? lol...its just a point of view...its a good thing we all have diffrent views, or we could just move to IHUB and be happy holding bags.
if you dont agree with what i have to say, at least respect it, if you cant, then dont bother reading it. Catch my drift ?
i am settled to remind you again, and i can keep reminding you that is just find with me [Smile]

how can i trash the stock i own...

yes, that is MY question to YOU... think about it for awhile...

you have been warned numerous time Stock...

i havent done nothing wrong, point out what i broke and ill understand, you cant warn me for something that didnt even happend lol...i am replying to people quoting me and you are one of them, weather being a mod or not, i will reply as i please without breaking rules. Not because i happend to desagree with someone i need to be warned...thats why i am here instead of IHUB.
be open minded, contradict me, ITS OK, ITS LIFE, GET OVER IT...

If I were to use you standard of judgement. Judging a person by how they sound and not what they say, I'd have very little confidence in you. Since your grammer and spelling skills leave much to be desired. People who live in glass house show not throw rocks.

I vaguely remember this CEO who wasn't a good public speaker at all and did little to inspire confidence in his employees much less investors. I wonder what ever happened to him.

OH that's right he became Bill Gates. Never judge a book by it's cover.

Disclaimer: I am not saying that Rufus Harris is Bill Gates. Just citing an example.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i hear those worldcom and enron boys were pretty smooooooth talkers [Wink]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Funny thing was the interviewers had done very little in investigation. They knew nothing of the merger, kept talking about tree recovery from the Amazon while they tried to open phone lines, and did not even know Rufas's last name when he called in. The interviewer actually had to ask him his name.

When Rufas started talking exclusively about Conversion solutions, the interviewer actually said, "Oh Conversion, now who are they?". It was a fiasco from the start. No wonder Rufas was peeved.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Tex, i don't have any answers..just trying to keep the peace here...

Stock is either slow on the uptake or he's a troublemaker..or both...

i dont really get it how someone can be "slow" by simply replying other quotes and just plainly express what they think or feel about a certain stock weather they own it or not...what is your deal ? i defenately can sense its more personal than what ever issue you are trying to make. i didnt come here calling people dikheads, i posted what i THOUGHT about the stock, and i do know thats what we are all here for. So instead of keep calling me a trouble maker, read what i just said, because to a normal sane human being it makes quite all the sense it needs, and if you think im childish, why are you bothering quoting me ? if my innocent posts bother you that much...just ignore them, i dont want your blood pressure to go up, this site needs every mod they have lol
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i hear those worldcom and enron boys were pretty smooooooth talkers [Wink]

great point BB...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
stock.... you aren't making sense...

i defenately can sense its more personal than what ever issue you are trying to make. i didnt come here calling people dikheads, i posted what i THOUGHT about the stock

thought? you thought? LOL...
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i don't think you are settled down Stock.... i think you are part of the major effort to trash the stock...

not that i really care... but this play is interesting...


reverse mergers are not simple....

how can i trash a stock i own ? lol...its just a point of view...its a good thing we all have diffrent views, or we could just move to IHUB and be happy holding bags.
if you dont agree with what i have to say, at least respect it, if you cant, then dont bother reading it. Catch my drift ?
i am settled to remind you again, and i can keep reminding you that is just find with me [Smile]

how can i trash the stock i own...

yes, that is MY question to YOU... think about it for awhile...

you have been warned numerous time Stock...

i havent done nothing wrong, point out what i broke and ill understand, you cant warn me for something that didnt even happend lol...i am replying to people quoting me and you are one of them, weather being a mod or not, i will reply as i please without breaking rules. Not because i happend to desagree with someone i need to be warned...thats why i am here instead of IHUB.
be open minded, contradict me, ITS OK, ITS LIFE, GET OVER IT...

If I were to use you standard of judgement. Judging a person by how they sound and not what they say, I'd have very little confidence in you. Since your grammer and spelling skills leave much to be desired. People who live in glass house show not throw rocks.

I vaguely remember this CEO who wasn't a good public speaker at all and did little to inspire confidence in his employees much less investors. I wonder what ever happened to him.

OH that's right he became Bill Gates. Never judge a book by it's cover.

Disclaimer: I am not saying that Rufus Harris is Bill Gates. Just citing an example.

GLTA
Wally

Its not his talk thats the problem, its what he says. Be confident and dont answer a shareholder by something like "well..uhh..i aint hear that, im gon try to look it up"...its your company, you should know everything about it. Just my thought.
i type fast, so if you see typos here and there, dont get all uptight...its ok [Wink]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Glass...and some others...Stock is OK..he is young and you know how those youngins can be..LOL

I think He is trying to find the answers like the rest of us...and I think that he goes about it by sorta playin' "devil's advocate"...tryin' to post the bad so others will help him see the good

Stock...you haven't done anything wrong...your posts just come off a little "challenging" to others...
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock.... you aren't making sense...

i defenately can sense its more personal than what ever issue you are trying to make. i didnt come here calling people dikheads, i posted what i THOUGHT about the stock

thought? you thought? LOL...

its not that im not making sense, its just that you dont want to make sense out of it...i said i can post my opinion and it is my right. You keep telling me IM WARNING YOU and im asking you what am i being warned about...i make all the sense in the world, just forget it if its that hard for you to understand, i think its more personal that w/e else it is...you just dont like what i say and thats OK to me...it should be OK with you too...but its obviousely not..nothing i can do about it. So take care, im going to shop for a new bike [Smile]
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Glass...and some others...Stock is OK..he is young and you know how those youngins can be..LOL

I think He is trying to find the answers like the rest of us...and I think that he goes about it by sorta playin' "devil's advocate"...tryin' to post the bad so others will help him see the good

Stock...you haven't done anything wrong...your posts just come off a little "challenging" to others...

Well thanks Kat, i wish some were as wise for their "age"...it takes 2 sides of an opinion to make a debate...if we all agree...why bother posting
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Glass...and some others...Stock is OK..he is young and you know how those youngins can be..LOL

I think He is trying to find the answers like the rest of us...and I think that he goes about it by sorta playin' "devil's advocate"...tryin' to post the bad so others will help him see the good

Stock...you haven't done anything wrong...your posts just come off a little "challenging" to others...

Oh the Art of it all.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Hey Peaser... [Razz] LOL..
How's that for "mature"?!
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
The Amazon deal, according to what I heard, will be readdressed under CVSU after the cusip change. It is not a "dead deal" as someone mentioned earlier.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
i think its the fact that im just a sexy mother humper


lol ;)Kat
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
stock... we are just trying to sort out who the short-sellers are...

you sound like one...

does that make sense?

read the SEC filings... do the DD...
quit running around saying the sky is falling and address facts...

you'll do fine if you try those things...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I may setup a computer to stream M N 1 .com in my office daily. I am impressed at the impact this little web site had on this and three other recent stocks I learned of from there.

It has been almost equal to Allstocks as a source in market predictions.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Not for me, I fell asleep listening to the show after the first hour this morning. It sucked IMO.

Do you work for them too TaxBack?

Simon called in there after the interview was over and gave his advice.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock... we are just trying to sort out who the short-sellers are...

you sound like one...

does that make sense?

read the SEC filings... do the DD...
quit running around saying the sky is falling and address facts...

you'll do fine if you try those things...

there is something called normal thinking and logic thinking and talking. DD DD DD DD DD DD ...we all did our DD, the DD is over, now its what the DD has to show...i stated facts about XKEM being a POS scam and got called basher...we all did our DD on that too didnt we...yea i dont see any nicosan laying arround CVS yet.
and i dont recall saying the sky was falling, but i do recall asking how would the price stay at 15...just an innocent question you had to turn into a bash...knock urself out. i took 2 motorcycle accidents and couple weeks in the coma, dont think this is bothering me much [Smile]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I will say the web site did not predict the tank today.... I was actually thinking impact rather than prediction.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
while y'all are bickering RUFUS IS ON TRADERS CORNER LIVE

~BB
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Glass...and some others...Stock is OK..he is young and you know how those youngins can be..LOL

I think He is trying to find the answers like the rest of us...and I think that he goes about it by sorta playin' "devil's advocate"...tryin' to post the bad so others will help him see the good

Stock...you haven't done anything wrong...your posts just come off a little "challenging" to others...

Oh the Art of it all.
Or you might say the "LOST" art of it all.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Okay, stock is officially on my s list.

XKEM not proven to be a scam. I do not currently own it.

You are losing credibility fast.
 
Posted by Bland on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I may setup a computer to stream M N 1 .com in my office daily. I am impressed at the impact this little web site had on this and three other recent stocks I learned of from there.

It has been almost equal to Allstocks as a source in market predictions.

I am biased to M N 1 but I'll tell you this... Market News First is an unbiased news agency that reports on MicroCaps. We do not charge companies to come on the show and we encourage our listeners to call in. We bring the facts to the investors. Some of the companies that come on our show have negative results but that's because we do our research and pull the facts.

A few of our clients have had some great success... look at the companies that we've done analyst coverage on. Look at the issue date, the price, and then check the charts. The facts are out there.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I did not say it was interesting, I was only on the edge of my seat because of the topic.

Oh please... do I work for them. They wish, they wouldn't have had half the technical issues they had today.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
The interview guys actually kept me awake. They did okay, it was the early afternoon that put me to sleep.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Hold the phone guys. Rufus did not sound that bad. I think he comes off as an intelligent guy. The bad phone connection contributed to the sketchy sound of his voice. His interview the other night was way better. Lets not act like he is some moron stumbling for answers.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
Okay, stock is officially on my s list.

XKEM not proven to be a scam. I do not currently own it.

You are losing credibility fast.

oh its not proven ? lol...you dont need Obasanjo to TELL you its one...you can tell on your own. I guess we see things on diffrent angles...if i remember, there was just so much crap about xkem in the dollars...lol. its trading at where i picked it up a lloooong time ago.
just a thought.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
while y'all are bickering RUFUS IS ON TRADERS CORNER LIVE

~BB

really? thanks...
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
while y'all are bickering RUFUS IS ON TRADERS CORNER LIVE

~BB

What's Traders corner?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
stock? how can anybody find real DD when you post the type of posts you post...

here:

http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/quotes_sec.asp?mode=&kind=&symbol=STTC&symbol=FHAL&sym bol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&FormType=&mkttype=& pathname=&page=filings&selected=FHAL

if you use this page? you can find the facts as they are on record...

you'll notice this page can look up any stock that has SEC filings... it helps...

this stock is crazy..i've said that ... i have never posted a buy or sell on it.. i am trying to help YOU since you are holding these shares right?

and you like to post right? that's good for allstocks if you do it well?

i'm just trying to clear out the "smoke" so we can see the fire... or not...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yeah and he sounds really annoyed that the same questions are being asked over & over...

he actually said 'am in in the twilight zone?'
....take notes if you have to...

LOL

~BB
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock? how can anybody find real DD when you post the type of posts you post...

here:

http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/quotes_sec.asp?mode=&kind=&symbol=STTC&symbol=FHAL&sym bol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&FormType=&mkttype=& pathname=&page=filings&selected=FHAL

if you use this page? you can find the facts as they are on record...

you'll notice this page can look up any stock that has SEC filings... it helps...

this stock is crazy..i've said that ... i have never posted a buy or sell on it.. i am trying to help YOU since you are holding these shares right?

and you like to post right? that's good for allstocks if you do it well?

i'm just trying to clear out the "smoke" so we can see the fire... or not...

thanks for the help, i do have that site on my favorites in addition to many others.
I am a friendly nice person, i just come off harsh sometimes, but take it for what it is.
i am just another guy trying to make a buck out of 50 cents just like every single person thats on here.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
So if they are making 13% interest on the 500,000,000 bond then is that monthly or quarterly. I don't know how bonds work. Anyway that is like $61,000,000 in interest. That would fund some projects. Is this a true statement????
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
we WANT you to succeed here Stock...

we want a good group of DD'ers here... not just "yesmen/women...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
So if they are making 13% interest on the 500,000,000 bond then is that monthly or quarterly. I don't know how bonds work. Anyway that is like $61,000,000 in interest. That would fund some projects. Is this a true statement????

it seems to good to be true because so many people don't understand how reverse mergers work...

but that's what the filings say,

there is still a chance this is all a bunch of empty promises,
BUT?
if it is? Rufus has flat out broken a lot, and i mean a lot of rules...
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Yup glass, he'd be prolly serving a bunch of prison time, if this was a scam IMO.

Geez, he told people on the radio to buy shares.

The prison time might even be so great as that any profit he recieves from this, he might not have free time to enjoy it speaking of the possibility of a scam.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey Stock, I apologize for being an A$$ earlier. I was amazed at how people do not listen, but react. 10 of 13 was the smartest of the bunch, she bought at dirt cheap prices while others ran. SMART GIRL! I listened very closely to what Rufus said today and I am VERY confident in CVSU. I think that $15 will be just the beginning. Can't wait for tomorrow, I wish I could see all the people who sold chase this UP, UP, UP. This of course would be my opinion. GLTA
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Why didn't their 8K say anything about the money earned?

quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
So if they are making 13% interest on the 500,000,000 bond then is that monthly or quarterly. I don't know how bonds work. Anyway that is like $61,000,000 in interest. That would fund some projects. Is this a true statement????


 
Posted by Stock on :
 
Glass
Cassity
Peaser
Dust

i have nothing against any of you. I am here to make money, and sometimes i just happend to post some opinions. I never intend to offend anyone and i expect not to get steped on either.
You guys have a good night, i will catch you either later or in the AM.

10 brains operate better than 1. Opinions are all welcome in my books.

take care
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
BB I can never find anything on traders corner, it is so disorganized. Where is or was this conversation?
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
The 13% is annual on the $500 Million he stated.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock? how can anybody find real DD when you post the type of posts you post...

here:

http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/quotes_sec.asp?mode=&kind=&symbol=STTC&symbol=FHAL&sym bol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&FormType=&mkttype=& pathname=&page=filings&selected=FHAL

if you use this page? you can find the facts as they are on record...

you'll notice this page can look up any stock that has SEC filings... it helps...

this stock is crazy..i've said that ... i have never posted a buy or sell on it.. i am trying to help YOU since you are holding these shares right?

and you like to post right? that's good for allstocks if you do it well?

i'm just trying to clear out the "smoke" so we can see the fire... or not...

thanks for the help, i do have that site on my favorites in addition to many others.
I am a friendly nice person, i just come off harsh sometimes, but take it for what it is.
i am just another guy trying to make a buck out of 50 cents just like every single person thats on here.

Actually, no. Im trying to make a buck out of 8 cents.

Sorry, i had to [Smile]
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
stock? how can anybody find real DD when you post the type of posts you post...

here:

http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/quotes_sec.asp?mode=&kind=&symbol=STTC&symbol=FHAL&sym bol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&FormType=&mkttype=& pathname=&page=filings&selected=FHAL

if you use this page? you can find the facts as they are on record...

you'll notice this page can look up any stock that has SEC filings... it helps...

this stock is crazy..i've said that ... i have never posted a buy or sell on it.. i am trying to help YOU since you are holding these shares right?

and you like to post right? that's good for allstocks if you do it well?

i'm just trying to clear out the "smoke" so we can see the fire... or not...

thanks for the help, i do have that site on my favorites in addition to many others.
I am a friendly nice person, i just come off harsh sometimes, but take it for what it is.
i am just another guy trying to make a buck out of 50 cents just like every single person thats on here.

Actually, no. Im trying to make a buck out of 8 cents. [Smile]

Sorry, i had to

then sell at the open, it will be at a buck

sorry i just had to also [Smile] bb now
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Haha, that crossed my mind after i hit send Stock. Foiled again I say...foiled again! [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
he is answering all questions on tradrscorner
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
room list > biz and finance > traders corner live


quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
BB I can never find anything on traders corner, it is so disorganized. Where is or was this conversation?


 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
wow this appears MUCH more organized this time
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
wow this appears MUCH more organized this time

Alot less peeps
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
he is answering all questions on tradrscorner

link?
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
while y'all are bickering RUFUS IS ON TRADERS CORNER LIVE

~BB

What's he sayin? and why don't they put info out in writing instead of these "conferences". I want to read it not hear it.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Earlier interview is up on M N 1


http://www.***.com/members/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=NewDownloadsDate&sele ctdate=1153867597
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Topic Bonds:
One time I had to check out a bond deal..

Here is an example.
AdviserGuide for scudder funds..

Has anyboby checked an insider advisery board for detailed buy and sell info for brokers who trade the Bonds?

I found out alot of shinanigans going on with a main stream large bond funds..

O' did I forget all the class action lawsuits filed against scudder family of funds..

What was the rating on the bonds again?

"Oh' the Humidity of it all" [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
EDIT
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
He hasnt said much, hes away and people are going over questions and such

And Peaser, download Paltalk and install it. After that its easy to locate the rooms
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Newbie7:
Why didn't their 8K say anything about the money earned?

quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
So if they are making 13% interest on the 500,000,000 bond then is that monthly or quarterly. I don't know how bonds work. Anyway that is like $61,000,000 in interest. That would fund some projects. Is this a true statement????


Interest Receivable


(33,125,000)

 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
FHAL L2's currently blank. This may have been halted? C'mon Nasdaq! lol

Wow that would be crazy if it halted after that insane close! Kinda funny though if people bailed for profits and planned to get back in
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
Topic Bonds:
One time I had to check out a bond deal..

Here is an example.
AdviserGuide for scudder funds..

Has anyboby checked an insider advisery board for detailed buy and sell info for brokers who trade the Bonds?

I found out alot of shinanigans going on with a main stream large bond funds..

O' did I forget all the class action lawsuits filed against scudder family of funds..

What was the rating on the bonds again?

"Oh' the Humity of it all" [Big Grin]

B2, as I recall
 
Posted by Lets help eachother out on :
 
S C A M
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
From M N 1

Fronthaul Fades in Late Day Trading!
Posted on Tuesday, July 25 * 18:35:46 CDT


By: Trevor Burgess

Dallas, Texas (July 25, 2006): In an unprecedented late afternoon interview on *** (www.***.com) Rufus Paul Harrison, CEO of Fronthaul Group Inc. (FHAL), gave details of a recent merger with Conversion Solutions. Callers were stunned at the company’s guarantee that the stock would go to fifteen dollars as soon as the conversion goes through, sometime between July 28 and Aug 1. As the interview went on, however, shares traded down sharply.

Phone lines lit up as stockholders heard promises of a stock going from one dollar to fifteen dollars a share. The company tried to explain the guarantee to the shareholders that called in.…Developing.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lets help eachother out:
S C A M

Yea, we've heard that. Thanks
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
http://www.traders-corner.com/
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Haha, the ONLY discussion is about "How fast can i get out?!". Obviously everyone wants to make money off of this but Rufus must be so depressed to see how bad people want to dump him and his company after the merger. [Smile]
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lets help eachother out:
S C A M

And that's helping who out?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:
Originally posted by Lets help eachother out:
S C A M

And that's helping who out?
 -
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Wow, Mr Harris going at it again!!

He says "Im telling you if your friend, your co-worker your Dad for Christ sake tries to convince you to sell your shares BE SUSPICIOUS! Dont let ANYONE talk you out of your shares people!!"

I dont even need to listen to the M N 1 bit
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
So this is my take. They are making $61,000,000 off just the 500,000,000 bond a year. That is a lot of money and just in one area that they are working. All I got to say is that on the 1st my money will be worth then, then now!!! Thats all I have to understand. And if they got the Air Force contracts you should be able to add millions to the 61. Lets try and keep focus on the prize here folks.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
room list > biz and finance > traders corner live


quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
BB I can never find anything on traders corner, it is so disorganized. Where is or was this conversation?


Thanks, I finally found it. Remind me to buy some Google. I was no where close to the right place.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bland:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I may setup a computer to stream M N 1 .com in my office daily. I am impressed at the impact this little web site had on this and three other recent stocks I learned of from there.

It has been almost equal to Allstocks as a source in market predictions.

I am biased to M N 1 but I'll tell you this... Market News First is an unbiased news agency that reports on MicroCaps. We do not charge companies to come on the show and we encourage our listeners to call in. We bring the facts to the investors. Some of the companies that come on our show have negative results but that's because we do our research and pull the facts.

A few of our clients have had some great success... look at the companies that we've done analyst coverage on. Look at the issue date, the price, and then check the charts. The facts are out there.

Your interview people leave alot to be desired. I listened all morning and afternoon and the on air people were highly critical of everyone that was interviewed except alphatrade. I wonder if they are getting their Alphatrade for free or something. maybe as a company you are not charging but IMO, taking shots at people/stocks after the interview is over is bush league. Before today I had heard several interveiws on *** and was not happy with them. A majority of the interveiws were with companies I have no stake in but I wonder why any CEO would do an interveiw with ***? It sounds like the on air personalities are more interested in thier own egos and not providing investors with NEWS. I am sadly disappointed.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Mr Harris said the folks over at M N 1 will just look like fools when this all goes through as planned. He didnt even sound irritated when he said it. He didnt even say he wouldnt go on again LOL, said he was invited so he went.

That, in itself, is something to kind of think about. He said he wasnt even planning on the M N 1 thing. He got hoodwinked. [Smile]
 
Posted by Lets help eachother out on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:
Originally posted by Lets help eachother out:
S C A M

And that's helping who out?
 -
I'm trying to help you out silly's. Why do you guys not get skeptic when a STOCK DROPS 30% in the last 25 MINUTES OF TRADING, DURING THIS "CONFERENCE CALL" THAT NO ONE CAN HEAR? Sorry if I do, don't take my advice then
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Let's help...why get skeptic? Instead of saying it's a scam...why don't you DD and show "proof" of a scam...

I should just take your word for it?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Where were you during its %1900 increase over the past couple of weeks? Everyone is skeptical but no one is going to listen to some anonymous dork with a screwy name.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
So this is my take. They are making $61,000,000 off just the 500,000,000 bond a year. That is a lot of money and just in one area that they are working. All I got to say is that on the 1st my money will be worth then, then now!!! Thats all I have to understand. And if they got the Air Force contracts you should be able to add millions to the 61. Lets try and keep focus on the prize here folks. Is this agreeable by all????
 
Posted by Lets help eachother out on :
 
Forget it, BUY FHAL< EVERYONE BUY FHAL, there you go guys, pumpin it,am i cool?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lets help eachother out:
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:
Originally posted by Lets help eachother out:
S C A M

And that's helping who out?
 -
I'm trying to help you out silly's. Why do you guys not get skeptic when a STOCK DROPS 30% in the last 25 MINUTES OF TRADING, DURING THIS "CONFERENCE CALL" THAT NO ONE CAN HEAR? Sorry if I do, don't take my advice then
Later tater


Lets help eachother out
Member


Rate Member posted July 25, 2006 19:45
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Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey help each other, you just posted on full or part time post, and you said you have a gambling problem and owwed 10k dollars to etrade and that you were in the hole 15k, so why would we take advice from you, just asking a question dont get all mad, but hey being in the hole that much maybe you are good at locating scams
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Maybe we can ask GENERAL JAMES KLUGH with AISS to see if he's really affiliated with CVSU, since that's to be one of their major source of income.
If he affirms on the contracts, then all of us can calm down a bit.
 
Posted by Lets help eachother out on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
hey help each other, you just posted on full or part time post, and you said you have a gambling problem and owwed 10k dollars to etrade and that you were in the hole 15k, so why would we take advice from you, just asking a question dont get all mad, but hey being in the hole that much maybe you are good at locating scams

hahahah, that's funny. No you guys can say whatever, I have money, I was refering to a penny called MLON, some of you may have heard of it. I lost 10 g's on it, and became a very skeptical. I have money, I am on wall street and I am willing to meet up with anyone on this site to proove it over some drinks.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
FHAL L2's currently blank. This may have been halted? C'mon Nasdaq! lol

Wow that would be crazy if it halted after that insane close! Kinda funny though if people bailed for profits and planned to get back in
I tried to edit it. sorry. I was rebooting the site, that's why my L2's weren't working. The L2's are fine now.
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
I remember I actually found the general's phone # in the white pages.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
"Georgia Aerospace is excited about the 40% equity position of Conversion Solutions in this venture. The great leadership at Conversion will bring excellent financial credentials with their Wall Street knowledge and exposure to the new entity AISS," stated Dr. Thomas Mensah, inventor, CEO and Founder of Georgia Aerospace Systems.
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Let's take some guess work out of the picture...
If you haven't already done so.......

Just Yahoo or Google Venezuela Bonds....

Use your imagination to ask questions of your computers..

Take into consideration the Politcal Atmosphere.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I hope they do halt it. I will sell my shares for the cheap price of $30 each.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
hey! Lets help eachother out, you got any idea how they can reopen at 15?


i been reading NITES 10Q... they are about 500 million$ into the market naked short with securitites sold not yet purchased...
isn't that what's really going on here?

10 million plus shares nekked shorted at .17$ or so?
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
HEY GUYS WHERE ARE THOSE UNDERWEAR?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Awesome,

"Georgia Aerospace is excited about the 40% equity position of Conversion Solutions in this venture. The great leadership at Conversion will bring excellent financial credentials with their Wall Street knowledge and exposure to the new entity AISS," stated Dr. Thomas Mensah, inventor, CEO and Founder of Georgia Aerospace Systems.

"The investment dollars that this equity brings will allow AISS to grow organically as well as through acquisitions to help us explore tremendous opportunities in advanced composite structures for aircraft and marine applications as well as homeland security. The infusion of capital will allow us to execute our business plan flawlessly." Dr. Mensah continued, "In addition to the traditional areas as detailed in our business, we will be looking to expand into novel areas like advanced Nanotube composite structure manufacturing. The company will be providing contracted engineering services to the Department of Defense as well as embedded sensors for Homeland Security."

"The Pentagon is implementing Network Centric Operations (NCO) which involves linking all means of command, control, communications, computers, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance. Georgia Aerospace Systems and American International Smart Structures are postured to become a major technology provider in Network Centric Operations with products like embedded sensors. The technology will be compatible with the Global Information Grid to provide real time information to the war fighter," stated Major General John Phillips, head of Defense markets for Georgia Aerospace Systems.
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Yes, Dr. Thomas Mensah has won multiple awards as an inventor. These two people, him and the general, have some caliber.
If only we can have them confirm their standing with CVSU.
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
IMPORTANT:

Okay I trade through Schwab... what they told me was that it's up to the Transfer Agent to get the new CVSU shares over to them. THE NEXT DAY after that happens you can trade the stock.

They said the large U.S. based TA's are usually pretty good and we should be fine - HOWEVER he looked up the info on this and said it was a Canadian TA that is handling it !! He said NOT to trade the shares until I see the CVSU in my account or else I could get caught in a short mess and have to pay back if they are covered !

He also said Canadian TA's are unreliable and that it make take days for the shares to show up.

I asked well what about Etrade, Ameritrade, etc - will they get the TA to transfer them before Schwab ? He said no, everyone gets it at the same time.

I'm holing 5K 'fun' shares...really I don't ever expect to sell them at $15, lol. But there is a lot more to this than I had thought. Why are they using a Canadian TA ?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Tmoney,

I don't think anyone would want them after what I did in them today. I'm getting a new pair out and starting a new run. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Naked Shorts is my guess on what happenned today in the final minutes, kinda ticks me off.

Isn't there supposed to be a new list out tomorrow from the SEC on naked shorts?

Hopefully the final hour of trades today will be included in it.

[ July 25, 2006, 20:53: Message edited by: Peaser ]
 
Posted by Lets help eachother out on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
hey! Lets help eachother out, you got any idea how they can reopen at 15?


i been reading NITES 10Q... they are about 500 million$ into the market naked short with securitites sold not yet purchased...
isn't that what's really going on here?

10 million plus shares nekked shorted at .17$ or so?

I have no idea what's going on here, the thing just crashed during good news, that makes no sense to me.
 
Posted by Newbie7 on :
 
Here's General Klugh's phone #.
(571) 522-6521

Anyone wants to call the General?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
Naked Shorts is my guess on what happenned today in the final minutes, kinda ticks me off.

Isn't there supposed to be a new list out tomorrow from the SEC on naked shorts?

Hopefully the final hour of trades today will be included in it.

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/OTCE_Short_Interest.asp
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lets help eachother out:
I am on wall street and I am willing to meet up with anyone on this site to proove it over some drinks. [/QB]

so you are looking for a date?
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey 10, i want a date with you before help gets one!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by Lets help eachother out:
I am on wall street and I am willing to meet up with anyone on this site to proove it over some drinks.

so you are looking for a date? [/QB]
Tsk! Tsk!
 
Posted by Lets help eachother out on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by Lets help eachother out:
I am on wall street and I am willing to meet up with anyone on this site to proove it over some drinks.

so you are looking for a date? [/QB]
haha, no I just love bing on wall street, I'm becoming rich thanks to the smart people on this site, and if it means take them out for a drink, I'm all about it. If it happens to be a hot chick, i'm not complaining.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Personally.. I think the sell off was helped along by the MM's... Once it started rolling (which they tried time and again) it took off. They just as well could have let this run the other way IMO...

Hey, we have a deal signed, a company with alot of BIG deals in the works...

"I'M STILL HOLDING"

$ee you on the other $ide!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
hey 10, i want a date with you before help gets one!!

LOL...
I sure as hell ain't dating him...just was wondering what his point was...people that talk about "showing" off their $ usually don't have it...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Have there been any homicides, suicides or any other types of cides going on over at IHUB? Im not sure i could bring myself to browsing all of that.....stuff
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
if you read the OTC site the same way i read it? it only shows the short interest as of 7-14-06....

not as of today...

it won't show new short interest until next month...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
FRONTHAUL GROUP INC (FHAL) OTC Type: OTCBB

Short Interest for July 2006 Short
Interest 45,105
Percent Change 100.00

Average Daily Share Volume 2,128,542

Days to Cover 1.00
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
OK..guys..you took that post wrong...LOL...No DATE!
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
TEX:

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
if you read the OTC site the same way i read it? it only shows the short interest as of 7-14-06....

not as of today...

it won't show new short interest until next month...

Data is available online for a rolling twelve months and is based on a mid-month settlement date.

Please refer to the Publication Schedule above for the month's short interest publication date.
View by Security
Step 1: Enter an Issue
Step 2: Select a Month


Downloadable File
Select a Month
Download

 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Hey everyone what'd I miss?? LOL I build a shed and come back to this? [Wink]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, that depends...how long exactly have you been gone cuz there were things to miss off and on today. [Smile]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Never got to see at all today till now! It took 8 hours to build it ugh......... [Wink]
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey it doesnt matter cause NEVER LOOKBACK right, hahahha
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
TEX:

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
if you read the OTC site the same way i read it? it only shows the short interest as of 7-14-06....

not as of today...

it won't show new short interest until next month...

Data is available online for a rolling twelve months and is based on a mid-month settlement date.

Please refer to the Publication Schedule above for the month's short interest publication date.
View by Security
Step 1: Enter an Issue
Step 2: Select a Month


Downloadable File
Select a Month
Download

what's your take on "days to cover"?

That "1.0" has already passed?
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Wow everyone got scared? Well I'm hanging tight I want 20.00 so I guess it was good I missed it;)
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Gosh I can only imagine what frys underwear looks like after today or did he sell?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
yes Luv..good thing you missed it...unless you wanted to buy more....
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea, you didnt want to see it. It was only about 20 minutes but it felt like a week.

We are hoping on another M N 1 fiasco. Last time we had a loss and bounced back so maybe this time too. They did CVSU NO favors im the interview (and after) im told. I still need to listen.

But, Rufus did do a quick Q&A at traders corner and seems to still be confident.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
I don't want to know!!!!!!! rothlol
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
FRONTHAUL GROUP INC (FHAL) OTC Type: OTCBB

Short Interest for July 2006
Short
Interest Percent
Change Average Daily
Share Volume Days to
Cover
45,105 100.00 2,128,542 1.00
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
What?? It dropped in 20 minutes?? Who said what? who sold? anyone lose or hopefully got a lil profit...?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I listened to the whole thing, and the end after Rufas hung up was definitely the 2nd worst.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Smelly:
IMPORTANT:

Okay I trade through Schwab... what they told me was that it's up to the Transfer Agent to get the new CVSU shares over to them. THE NEXT DAY after that happens you can trade the stock.

They said the large U.S. based TA's are usually pretty good and we should be fine - HOWEVER he looked up the info on this and said it was a Canadian TA that is handling it !! He said NOT to trade the shares until I see the CVSU in my account or else I could get caught in a short mess and have to pay back if they are covered !

He also said Canadian TA's are unreliable and that it make take days for the shares to show up.

I asked well what about Etrade, Ameritrade, etc - will they get the TA to transfer them before Schwab ? He said no, everyone gets it at the same time.

I'm holing 5K 'fun' shares...really I don't ever expect to sell them at $15, lol. But there is a lot more to this than I had thought. Why are they using a Canadian TA ?

Transfer Agent is: Integrity Transfer from Las Vegas NV. Call them. They might be surprised to find out that Nevada is now a part of Canada.

Contact Us
Telephone: (702) 317-7757
Toll Free: (877) 317-7757
Fax: (702) 796-5650
E-mail: stock*integritynevada.net
Mail: 2920 N. Green Valley Parkway
Building 5 - Suite 527
Henderson, NV 89014
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
wow theres alot a reading i missed.... guess i best get cracking LOL gltya hopefully it's not crying material....
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
So Schwab is BSing?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
don't bother luv4ver nobody has a single clue WTF is going on here including moi [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
Vegas is in Canada

Only if you want to gamble eh?

Damn, I hope Nevada wont miss the tax income....
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
So Schwab is BSing?

I wonder.


But Rufus Harris was asked who the transfer agent was and stated Integrity transfer from Las Vegas. Which also matches up with the updated information on Pinksheets.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
holy smokers!!! An interview of the same q's over and over and over... (get the pic?) Looks like a good buy at this time, wish I had more...cause it seems everyone got scared over the confusion...again...hmmm I trust my gut, reguardless, but what do I know...
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lets help eachother out:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by Lets help eachother out:
I am on wall street and I am willing to meet up with anyone on this site to proove it over some drinks.

so you are looking for a date?

haha, no I just love bing on wall street, I'm becoming rich thanks to the smart people on this site, and if it means take them out for a drink, I'm all about it. If it happens to be a hot chick, i'm not complaining. [/QB]
Does your door swing both ways??

Just kidding ofcourse, or AM I !!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Tomorrows another day and hopefully sunshine and happy people. I am sorry for anyone who took a lose and hopefully it wasn't too bad... Heck I might have panicked, but if it goes as planned everyone will be back from the ledge soon enough...LOL [Wink]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
So Schwab is BSing?

I wonder.


But Rufus Harris was asked who the transfer agent was and stated Integrity transfer from Las Vegas. Which also matches up with the updated information on Pinksheets.

GLTA
Wally

Wally I shot them off a quick email...with several questions...let's see if I hear anything...
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
whats with this other interview?? onemore after todays???
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
I still have my 5k * .10

Haven't lost yet.
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
I'm hoping tomorrow will be back up on a good bounce, I figure it will slide a bit further down and then start heading back up, but what do I know. I was glad today though that my office was on the first floor (all I did was sprain my ankle)....
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
hehe at least you all can joke.. Here's to better days a comin! [Wink] I think I'd have been in the hospital in a body cast had I'd seen it happen... There was a reason I wasn't spose to see the market today huh? !!!!!
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
I completely agree with you on this! It more then likely will drop in price as people sell for profit. However, everyone in it will make money, even if you sold at $3.

Once the 1st day or 2 of selling is over, this will settle, then as Rufus puts out PR's and such, this will go highre and probably over the $15 it comes out at.

Cant blame anyone for trying to sell as high as possible, but I'd keep in some shares for the possibility of a much higher price in time.

Personally, Im like that it went down today, now I can pick up some cheaper shares, sorry guys.

My opinion of course.
-------------------------------------------------
originally posted by Wallymac:

I listened to the whole interview. Where the problem started was that Rufus was cut off in the middle of answering a question and people thought they would have to hold the stock for 90 to a 120 days before they could trade. That is not the case. The conversion of all stock certificates, especially those from CVSU holders could take that long for various reason. Rufus stated that it will be a simple change in symbol and cusip # that should be able to be handled electronically by brokers. In the case of CVSU shareholders they will need to have their certs and have them first changed to FHAL before they are change to the new symbol(CVSU.OB) and cusip #. Scottrade has told me it would happen over night. Like I believe Scottrade, I know it will take at least a day and will be calling to put pressure on them.

Selling always creates panic and panic creates more selling. This will open at $15 what happens in the marketplace after that will be the same thing that happens with any stock we put our money into. The amount of buyers VS Sellers will determine where the PPS ends up. There is no guarantee you will be able to sell for $15. I have never heard of a guaranteed sell. Is there any stock anyone nows owns that they are guaranteed to be able to sell at a certain price? I don't think so.

You all have to remember that there are different forces that are working in the market. Some that want to see the PPS skyrocket and others who want to see it crash. IMO, It's much easier to help it crash than too force it up. It has been reported that there is a huge short position in this stock that will create a short squeeze, take that for whatever it is worth. We have seen it have affects on outhers and have since it have no affect and some.

This has always been a risk/reward play. It is no different. I will say this though, Those who believe it is only worth .10 are basing that solely on FHAL and not taking into account any assets or value from CVSU. I think it sould settle in the $5 area after the merger. Let's see how many of us would be willing to risk buying a stock for under $2 that could possibly go up to $5. Everyone. The biggest problem is that all the discussion centers around $15 and whether we can get that. IMO it should be centered on will this stock be worth more after the change and if so how much.

DO your DD. Only risk what you are comfortable with losing. I am averaged at .38 so for me it's a no brainer. Even if it falls all the way to .75 I still more than double my money. If we Play it smart we might just be able to make some money maybe even more than we can imagine.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
ok gotta run see ya either later or in the am [Smile] need a break my eyes hurt..LOL
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I've dealt with them on a couple other stocks in the past but can't remember which ones. Oh yeah KLGE was one of them. I do know I dial a number in Nevada and they answered.

Anyway Look forward to anything you find out. Hey they might even have better information as to how long before we can trade. I still think it will only be a day or 2 at the most.

Anyone staying in this through the merger should be contacting their broker and making them aware that they are being watched so they don't put it on the back burner.

I think what we are really waiting on here is the NASD approval of new name and cusip. Might want to watch the OTCBB daily list it will appear there.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
Have to joke, otherwise I would cry, I lost 18K in my account today. Now I'm only up 89 cents per share... (yeah I was one of the idiots that liked the log deal and bought at .14 in June and rode it down to 9) The ride from 1.50 to 1.03 while not pretty to watch still didn't bother me a whole lot. now if it does it again tomorrow hard to say what my attitude will be. But I still think this looks like a good play from here.
 
Posted by Phoenix on :
 
Folks, always protect your profits and ride free shares.

So, does anyone know what the real deal is? So much confusion on the boards..

Btw, if anyone calls Rufus, ask him for me if he's planning on doing an online lottery as one of his subsidiaries...

Or maybe I'll do that tomorrow if no one wants to..
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Here's an old article from Forbes on Venezuelan Bonds:

http://www.forbes.com/markets/newswire/2003/12/07/rtr1172182.html
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I still feel sick
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.euroclear.com/wps/portal/!ut/p/.cmd/cs/.ce/7_0_A/.s/7_0_B2/_s.7_0_A/7 _0_B2
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I still feel sick

It will settle take some Pepto
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
So who is selling at the open?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
what's this second interview all about?? is there a link??
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
I'm not selling, but I may live to regret it.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
So who is selling at the open?

What...Why sell? Are you nuts? LOL...I am going to try and get more...

What is all the doom and gloom about?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
not selling but buying! i'll bet this interview got blood curdling,,,and we see massive pr in am
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
http://www.euroclear.com/wps/portal/!ut/p/.cmd/cs/.ce/7_0_A/.s/7_0_B2/_s.7_0_A/7 _0_B2

What are we looking for here?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
damn, i dropped $40K today.. i'm really scared now, even if i got WWEN as a backup.. i mean, how ridiculous is that to drop so much on a good conference.. someone, just have to keep in mind, 8K, and 10Q.. is massively dumping? feels like being setup .. but hopefully it's just a scheme to get cheap shares and cover.. damn, it's so unpredictable, i would figure at this point, the cat is out of the bag, with all these statements from the CEO himself.. don't know what to think anymore..
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
maybe week hands sold or will sell!!!now we have better chance to actually make it to 15$ cause we want an organized stock with strong hands,,,but thanks for the dip!!!let's get more
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
I added some more today.

I still think new short positions need to cover before the symbol change. I'll prolly hold.

Look at it this way, the gap is now closed.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Look guys...we still have a few things to look for..Like "Audited financials" and this is right from the 8K

"FHAL and CVSU intend to file an S-4 registration statement / prospectus in connection with the proposed Merger for the registration of the CVSU share pursuant to the Merger agreement"

Now it is my understanding that until this S4 is filed nothing will proceed...and once we see this...then all of it is a go...
Rufas seemed to lean towards having the financials in byt this Thrusday and I would take a guess that this S-4 will also be filed on Thursday...and we will be sittin' pretty good...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
u havent lost unless youve sold [Wink] good luck!

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by MHampton:
Have to joke, otherwise I would cry, I lost 18K in my account today. Now I'm only up 89 cents per share... (yeah I was one of the idiots that liked the log deal and bought at .14 in June and rode it down to 9) The ride from 1.50 to 1.03 while not pretty to watch still didn't bother me a whole lot. now if it does it again tomorrow hard to say what my attitude will be. But I still think this looks like a good play from here.


 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
u havent lost unless youve sold good luck!

~BB

True, and like I said, I'm still up, but it's hard to see that kind of money just disapear in 20 minutes. I'm still looking for this to recover and for it to play itself out in a way that makes all of us happy.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Doniboy, I hope your kidding about WHO's SELLING! Not until the ticker change!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Did you hold BB?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yes doniboy i held. couldnt believe my eyes but i held.

as i said, i went back in only for what i was comfortable with (10k shares).

unfortunately im shooting the rest of the week so i dont think ill find any time to follow the drama. *gulp*

my input is that the dump seemed too orchestrated today. hrm.

~BB
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
just the link and posted it!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think we go higher tomorrow than ever before. I wouldn't be suprised to see a PR in the morning, but today was great news to me. JMO
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
You might be the smart one, don't look, don't stress... [Smile]


unfortunately im shooting the rest of the week so i dont think ill find any time to follow the drama. *gulp*

~BB
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I can't open the podcast. Every time I click it I get an xhtml code or something.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
hey Doni what is that link?
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
http://www.***.com/members/modules.php?name=Downloads
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
replace stars with M N 1
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
your talking interview today!!?afternoon
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I am trying to download it yes.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
INTERESTING INFO ON EUROCLEAR:
-----------------------

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* Financial resources: an applicant must demonstrate its ability to maintain adequate financial strength to support the use of Euroclear Bank's services.
* Operational and technical capabilities: an applicant must demonstrate that it has personnel capable of administering the organisation's use of the Euroclear System efficiently and that there are adequate facilities - technological infrastructure, communication systems, books, records and procedures - to meet the operational requirements of the system.
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* Reputation in the market: an applicant must have a good name in the market; regulatory status may be taken into account when evaluating an applicant's reputation.
* Anti-money laudering programme: an applicant must demonstrate that it has an adequate anti-money laudering programme designed to comply with local law on the prevention and detection of money laundering, and to provide sufficient identification, control and reporting procedures.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
k---i'm looking for that pal talk thing
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Never mind I found it
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
They have a picture of some dude with his head in his hands with the Headline "Fronthaul Fades in Late Day Trading!"

You can't tellme that they weren't rooting against us.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
just the link and posted it!

I scrubbed the PRs looking for the reference number for the euroclear bond. I know I have seen it, just can't remember where.
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
They have a picture of some dude with his head in his hands with the Headline "Fronthaul Fades in Late Day Trading!"

You can't tellme that they weren't rooting against us.

Fronthaul Fades in Late Day Trading!
Posted on Tuesday, July 25 * 18:35:46 CDT


By: Trevor Burgess

Dallas, Texas (July 25, 2006): In an unprecedented late afternoon interview on *** (www.***.com) Rufus Paul Harrison, CEO of Fronthaul Group Inc. (FHAL), gave details of a recent merger with Conversion Solutions. Callers were stunned at the company’s guarantee that the stock would go to fifteen dollars as soon as the conversion goes through, sometime between July 28 and Aug 1. As the interview went on, however, shares traded down sharply.

Phone lines lit up as stockholders heard promises of a stock going from one dollar to fifteen dollars a share. The company tried to explain the guarantee to the shareholders that called in.…Developing.

It wasn't the callers that were shocked, it was the idiots at the program that were, most of the callers already understood was the impression I had of it.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
yes doniboy i held. couldnt believe my eyes but i held.

as i said, i went back in only for what i was comfortable with (10k shares).

unfortunately im shooting the rest of the week so i dont think ill find any time to follow the drama. *gulp*

my input is that the dump seemed too orchestrated today. hrm.

~BB

I agree with you. I think the MM's or whoever want cheap shares or shorts or whoever anyone wants to point a finger at were looking for any chink in the armor they could find. This was not a massive sell off. Approx 8.5M shares were traded today. 1.5M in the last twenty minutes. I doubt that all 1.5M were sells. I know a few people that were gobbling up shares at prices they never felt they would see again.

When it comes to dollars that I use to trade, it's miniscule in comparison to many. I am personally holding 12.5K shares and will hold them through the merger. My uncle is a bigger dog, I don't agree with how he trades but he has the money that I don't. He sold all his other holdings to buy FHAL. He started yesterday and bought in the 1.40's. He finally finished selling at the close today and is putting another $30K in tommorrow. I advised against it because I prefer a balanced portfolio. Yet if everything turns out as advertised, he stands to make millions. His dream was that this would happen and he could pick up more shares at a cheaper PPS. His dream came true.

I still think this is a good play. I really don't see it falling to below $2 post merger. Based on the addition of CVSU's assets and potential. JMHO.

Do your own DD and never ever risk more money than you can afford to lose.

GLTA
WAlly
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
goodpost wallymac
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I've been reading a lot of the posts at Ihub and here from bashers. I can't wait until Rufus starts releasing PR's and everyone of their dumba$$e$ sit there in amazement!(WHOOPS) Just irritates me how annoying some people can be. Up, down, sideways I don't care, I'm holdin till D-DAY! IMO [Razz]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MHampton:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
They have a picture of some dude with his head in his hands with the Headline "Fronthaul Fades in Late Day Trading!"

You can't tellme that they weren't rooting against us.

Fronthaul Fades in Late Day Trading!
Posted on Tuesday, July 25 * 18:35:46 CDT


By: Trevor Burgess

Dallas, Texas (July 25, 2006): In an unprecedented late afternoon interview on *** (www.***.com) Rufus Paul Harrison, CEO of Fronthaul Group Inc. (FHAL), gave details of a recent merger with Conversion Solutions. Callers were stunned at the company’s guarantee that the stock would go to fifteen dollars as soon as the conversion goes through, sometime between July 28 and Aug 1. As the interview went on, however, shares traded down sharply.

Phone lines lit up as stockholders heard promises of a stock going from one dollar to fifteen dollars a share. The company tried to explain the guarantee to the shareholders that called in.…Developing.

It wasn't the callers that were shocked, it was the idiots at the program that were, most of the callers already understood was the impression I had of it.

Yes they seemed totally unprepared. Were attempting to call numbers from FHAL and not CVSU in order to get in touch with Rufus and Ben. Acted as if they didn't know anything about the merger and then after Rufus and Ben left acted like they knew the whole story. Hats of for the great DD that the team at MN 1 did. NOT.


GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I agree with BB, that the dump just seemed to orchestrated. Especially the fact that they moved it to just before the market close. I could not get the M N 1 radio link to work. It wasn't my computer because I did get this message "the radio program you are trying to reach is unavailable at this time, please try again later" and then the call letters of the M N 1 360 or something like that. Heard that many others could not either.

I had my L2's up while the interview was going on and the sell off started immediately. There was no hesitation at all. After I moment, I realized what was going to happen and so I tried to sell my shares for .10 less than the current bid, but it just flew by.

Guess I'm holding now [Smile] I actually feel better about holding than I did in those last 15 minutes of the trading day. So I do believe that for some reason, someone wanted panic selling to ensue.

Jo
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
one good pr and we could run north alot higher and just as fast ,,remember down on only 1.5million shares and our float is only around 20 million which seperates this stock from pennies we are no where close to gazillion shares on this ,,
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
heck we don't need a pr! but well take it!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
I agree with BB, that the dump just seemed to orchestrated. Especially the fact that they moved it to just before the market close. I could not get the M N 1 radio link to work. It wasn't my computer because I did get this message "the radio program you are trying to reach is unavailable at this time, please try again later" and then the call letters of the M N 1 360 or something like that. Heard that many others could not either.

Jo I know how it must have felt. I signed on to the show 10 minutes early, on my wireless connection and had no troubles with the audio. I heard and saw here on Allstocks that several others were having problems. I do not think the technical issues were planned.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Hey the only other stock I rode ws usxp and I only made 1600 then lost 400 then I bailed and glad I did so heres my next big one made some from .33 then waited now in again so I'm not too worried glta though smile it's better even if we don't want to... [Wink]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
The current L2's show support at $1.01
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Doniboy, if this goes down tomorrow I would be AMAZED! Just my opinion brother.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I have not been around nearly as long as some of you guys...

I have never gone through any of this...

I have a "level headed type personality with a realistic and skeptic nature"

I have searched and I have listened and aside from the stupid panic sell, the MM games and shorting...(and the fact that this Rufas speaks like a "truck driving hick")...this "plan is so simple" that people are not able to understand.

I have already made GREAT profits with this...and I am taking half of those profits and stayin for the long haul...(LOL a week or 2)

To most of you, your opinions are wonderful...and alot can be learned ...but what I am not convinced of is the fact that you come in "as it falls" or after the fact..and point to the "fall and why"...most can see it after the fact...

Research CVSU and listen to the interviews and read the filings...if it is a scam...I will have lost half my profits...and these guys will do some jail time...and you all will be able to say "I told you so"!

If it flies...I will be takin' the kids and my Mom on a wonderful vacation to Australia!

(Don't buy because I held...do you own DD)


(Yes Cassity I have officialy changed my mind)
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I can't even read Ihub anymore all the freakin losers are out like roaches in the dark. I seriously want to hunt them down and beat them with a shovel.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
wow... thats all i can say. i WILL be sitting in front of a computer tomorrow... i HAVE too:) sorry i've missed all of this but as i said, tomorrow i'll be here. and sorry fryyguyy for not calling didn't see this coming... Hope everyone survived the last 30 min. of trading from what i can see on the chart... that must have been a sight:D hahaha, i'm still in and we'll see how the rest of week goes. Hopefully no more ppl just ramble on in here and provide good explanations and no more spam like "Buy WWEN... did you look at the PR?... Seriously check em out" good night all and i hope to be with you all tomorrow. should be interesting...
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I can't even read Ihub anymore all the freakin losers are out like roaches in the dark. I seriously want to hunt them down and beat them with a shovel.

Yeah, they definately need to call Orkin over there and spray the place. I take this as a good sign though. Why are they posting so much, for so long? They worried? You know, I never cared for guys like that much in High School, and now that they are older I care for them even less!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i hear those worldcom and enron boys were pretty smooooooth talkers [Wink]

I was gone after 11 AM and I'm still five pages behind trying to catch up but I just had to respond that this is some funny crap! nice one BB! (if anyone can even remember the context for this comment!)
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
wally, i think you are very correct in the 'acted as if' part of your statement.

"im sorry sir, what is your last name?" (he said to rufus harris)
give me a break. that was downright insulting, and i doubt they dont know who is coming on their own show.

dont you think they would be very aware of who cancelled their earlier appearance and screwed with the day's schedule???

that dumping was so orchestrated my finger never even came close to the trigger.

~BB


Acted as if they didn't know anything about the merger and then after Rufus and Ben left acted like they knew the whole story.
GLTA
Wally

 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
They are the scum of the financial world. They are either shorts who are basically leetches who feed off those that lose money, or else they are simply a-holes who enjoy kicking people when they are down. either way, they are bottom feeders.

BTW what is Rufus' e-mail? I lost it.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I have not been around nearly as long as some of you guys...

I have never gone through any of this...

I have a "level headed type personality with a realistic and skeptic nature"

I have searched and I have listened and aside from the stupid panic sell, the MM games and shorting...(and the fact that this Rufas speaks like a "truck driving hick")...this "plan is so simple" that people are not able to understand.

I have already made GREAT profits with this...and I am taking half of those profits and stayin for the long haul...(LOL a week or 2)

To most of you, your opinions are wonderful...and alot can be learned ...but what I am not convinced of is the fact that you come in "as it falls" or after the fact..and point to the "fall and why"...most can see it after the fact...

Research CVSU and listen to the interviews and read the filings...if it is a scam...I will have lost half my profits...and these guys will do some jail time...and you all will be able to say "I told you so"!

If it flies...I will be takin' the kids and my Mom on a wonderful vacation to Australia!

(Don't buy because I held...do you own DD)


(Yes Cassity I have officialy changed my mind)

EXACTLY!!!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
bottom feeder sc um
 
Posted by portman on :
 
This remains no different a play than it was a week ago. You have what appears to be a bankrupt equity merging with an apparently substantial one. If the filings bear out what is suspected and the new company has funds and contracts it will rise or maintain around the $15/pps

If the new financials do not support the price setting that stock will fall.

It is that simple. Rufus believes the equity value (that is an important distinction) of the new company should cause it to trade around $15.

If it should it will...if it should not it will not.

I do believe a CEO should be well spoken or he/she should not speak. I have said that about other companies and I firmly beleive it affects shareholder value.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
heah.

rufus stuttered and it caused a panic sell.

smooth talkin ceo's = honesty. [Wink] riiiight?


quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i hear those worldcom and enron boys were pretty smooooooth talkers [Wink]

I was gone after 11 AM and I'm still five pages behind trying to catch up but I just had to respond that this is some funny crap! nice one BB! (if anyone can even remember the context for this comment!)

 
Posted by cassity on :
 
In the famous words of some jacka$$ off of one of these chat boards, "Tomorrow we go to da moon" HA HA! Goodnight, sleep tight and don't let the bashers bite, beaaaches! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I don't think that Rufus is a poor speaker. He does well on traderscorner. Its just the stupid M n1 site, with its bad reception.
 
Posted by romberry on :
 
CVSU says they have a half a BILLION dollars in Venezuelan US dollar demoninated bonds. Answer me this: Where did CVSU get that half a BILLION dollars?

A lot of people here said that the merger allows them to reopen trading "sort of like an IPO." Sorry, but that sort of statement shows pure ignorance. An IPO is nothing like a merger. Rufus can no more set the stock price after trading reopens than Santa Claus can bring snow to Miami in July. That isn't the way the market works. (And no, Rufus and CVSU are not going to pay anyone 15 dollars for each share of FHAL they own at week's end either.)

CVSU does not even have a real office. (How is it that a company claiming close to a billion dollars in assets works out of a "virtual office" that they share with literally dozens of other companies?)

This is a two-bit operation, not the operation of a company with close to a billion dollars in cash assets.

I'm glad a lot of people here made a lot of profits. I don't have a dog in this hunt either way (I don't own the stock, I'm not buying the stock and I'm not involved with any person, business, institution or agency with any interest in this stock at all) but I have seen not a dang thing that leads to me to believe any of these claimed assets are at all "real". If I were in this stock, I'd be taking my profits and gladly getting out. The close today was not because of some interview that most people did not hear. The close was the sound of the pumpers becoming dumpers. It's downhill from here, baby.

That's my opinion on this stock and has been for days. Sorry if it's not popular.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
is there anything we can do with orders tomorrow??? like put higher price sells again or is this not a good idea?
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I don't think that Rufus is a poor speaker. He does well on traderscorner. Its just the stupid M n1 site, with its bad reception.

I can buy that. I have not heard him speak which is why I did not comment on him specifically.

This has been interesting to watch and participate in.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i think they were referring to his accent mostly.
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
I don't think that Rufus is a poor speaker. He does well on traderscorner. Its just the stupid M n1 site, with its bad reception.


 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by romberry:
CVSU says they have a half a BILLION dollars in Venezuelan US dollar demoninated bonds. Answer me this: Where did CVSU get that half a BILLION dollars?

A lot of people here said that the merger allows them to reopen trading "sort of like an IPO." Sorry, but that sort of statement shows pure ignorance. An IPO is nothing like a merger. Rufus can no more set the stock price after trading reopens than Santa Claus can bring snow to Miami in July. That isn't the way the market works. (And no, Rufus and CVSU are not going to pay anyone 15 dollars for each share of FHAL they own at week's end either.)

CVSU does not even have a real office. (How is it that a company claiming close to a billion dollars in assets works out of a "virtual office" that they share with literally dozens of other companies?)

This is a two-bit operation, not the operation of a company with close to a billion dollars in cash assets.

I'm glad a lot of people here made a lot of profits. I don't have a dog in this hunt either way (I don't own the stock, I'm not buying the stock and I'm not involved with any person, business, institution or agency with any interest in this stock at all) but I have seen not a dang thing that leads to me to believe any of these claimed assets are at all "real". If I were in this stock, I'd be taking my profits and gladly getting out. The close today was not because of some interview that most people did not hear. The close was the sound of the pumpers becoming dumpers. It's downhill from here, baby.

That's my opinion on this stock and has been for days. Sorry if it's not popular.

Thank you for your thoughts!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
BB...Not every CEO is Dave Thomas [Smile]

Sometimes I think it is better some CEOs bring a little support with them.

I in no way thing he triggered the drop. I do think someone needed cover and used the CC as the chance while most were distracted.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
a desperate gap down technique? trying to induce a selloff tomorrow for some final covers?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Romberry states:

A lot of people here said that the merger allows them to reopen trading "sort of like an IPO." Sorry, but that sort of statement shows pure ignorance. An IPO is nothing like a merger. Rufus can no more set the stock price after trading reopens than Santa Claus can bring snow to Miami in July. That isn't the way the market works. (And no, Rufus and CVSU are not going to pay anyone 15 dollars for each share of FHAL they own at week's end either.)

You obviously are the one that is showing "pure ignorance" read the filing read the "Sec rules"

CVSU is being "consumed" by FHAL, FHAL is "bancrupt"...givin that fact according to the "sec rules"...they can stop the trading and set the price with their new assets (CVSU)

So you may want to stay away from Miami next July...There may be snow!

Have a great night and DD before you post...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
10: "CVSU is being "consumed" by FHAL, FHAL is "bancrupt"...givin that fact according to the "sec rules"...they can stop the trading and set the price with their new assets (CVSU)"

what you describe is a more or less typical r/m...

how does this relate to the regs that allow "adjusting" the pps?
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
Everyone needs to relax... What will be will be ! I'm holding a measly 5K shares from the 1.30's. Personally I think if Rufus is scamming everyone he may not go to jail - but he will be spending the rest of his days in court which isn't much fun....

For me, it was worth the 7K, I may lose some of this but really I'm not too concerned.

The share price will open at $15, however if the TA has not gotten the CVSU shares to your broker you won't be able to trade it. Apparently from my DD they are using a Canadian TA who are typically unreliable....This may cause some problems.

Anyway just some thoughts from your old Uncle Smelly.


"I won't shower nor shave until I have 500 K's"
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
"but he will be spending the rest of his days in court which isn't much fun.... "

you mean, cuz the SEC is so tough on scammers, eh?

(MLON, WFTV, RVMN...etc etc) [Razz]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
10: "CVSU is being "consumed" by FHAL, FHAL is "bancrupt"...givin that fact according to the "sec rules"...they can stop the trading and set the price with their new assets (CVSU)"

what you describe is a more or less typical r/m...

how does this relate to the regs that allow "adjusting" the pps?

*bump*
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
yes Tex...a "r/m" of sorts and it's in the language of the 8k that allows them to do this...

The Merger qualifies as a tax-free reorganization under Section 368 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended, meaning that as the Reorganized Holdings Corporation begins to trade it has an option to adjust the market (trading price) to reflect the new Reorganized Holdings Corporations audited financials as it reflects on the per share book value.

And it is in the 8k as to how it can be done...
and here's this link
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-01-24.pdf

Not sure if that is the correct link or not...but all the info is in the 8K and in these threads...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tex...I know that you are trying to get me to post clearly with facts.and back up why i say...but I am to tired right now...the info is in these threads...and in the 8K...

everyone do you DD...

Night night!!!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Smelly:
Everyone needs to relax... What will be will be ! I'm holding a measly 5K shares from the 1.30's. Personally I think if Rufus is scamming everyone he may not go to jail - but he will be spending the rest of his days in court which isn't much fun....

For me, it was worth the 7K, I may lose some of this but really I'm not too concerned.

The share price will open at $15, however if the TA has not gotten the CVSU shares to your broker you won't be able to trade it. Apparently from my DD they are using a Canadian TA who are typically unreliable....This may cause some problems.

Anyway just some thoughts from your old Uncle Smelly.


"I won't shower nor shave until I have 500 K's"

Why do you continue to state they are using a Canadian TA?

It has been confirmed that they are using Integrity Stock Transfer from Las Vegas Nevada.
My prior response stated the address phone number and email.

Please everyone confirm this for your self. If you don't want to look for my previous post just Google Integrity Stock Transfer and Voila it right there.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
ya.... it's the "tax-free reorg" part that's being cited as enabling the "adjustment"

B "consuming" A, A's being bankrupt, etc etc... is typical r/m; nothing to do with the tax-free reorg part... if so, please explain the linkage.

thanks...

time for sleep--will check back in the am
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
2006-04-28 10:28:33
Conversion Solutions announces $500 million investment
Funding agreement with Ismet Paez of The Caracas Group

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

KENNESAW, Ga., /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC Pink Sheets: CVSU) announces that during the SB-2 filing process the following current events have taken place.

CVSU would like to announce the signing of a Global Funding agreement with Ismet Paez of The Caracas Group. The funding agreement brings 500 Million United States Dollar denominated Global, Bonds on the Republic of Venezuela with a 13.625% annual coupon, to CVSU's financials. The bond has been loaded in the Euroclear system with the following codes:

ISIN Number: US922646AT10

Common Code: 008975540

CUSIP: 922646AT1

BB Registration: A-989/08/01 to A-989/08/19


The bond also trades under symbol (VEZD) on the Deutsche Borse Frankfort market.

"We have been working diligently toward Hypothecation of the Bonds for liquidly. We have received written pre-approval for a credit line on the bonds and are in the final phases of execution. This process is very important to the launch of CVSU's business model for the funding of the projects and Asset Backed Security (ABS) origination," stated Ben F. Stanley, COO.

"The Board of directors has decided to complete the Credit facility prior to filing the SB-2; we feel that the addition of this asset is beneficial to the shareholders value," stated Rufus Paul Harris, CEO.

CVSU along with Seko Management Inc would like to announce the formation of a joint venture corporation called Seko Management Inc. "SMI" a (Florida Corporation). Seko Management Inc. holds an Exclusive Contract for 50% Profit Sharing for the Group "RUN BY LOVE" http://www.runbylove.com. The newly formed corporation has 100 million shares authorized and 60 million issued. The equity division of the corporation is 30 million shares to the Seko staff and 30 million shares to the current shareholders of CVSU.


"As CEO of Seko Management Inc. I am pleased to announce it is a pleasure to have added a joint venture under the umbrella of CVSU. I believe that working together with CVSU gives a lot of opportunities in the future," stated Zsolt Szekely, CEO.

"RUN BY LOVE feels that it is an honor that CVSU and Seko Management believe, that the band can achieve big success not only in the USA, but worldwide as well. We believe that working together with CVSU and Seko Management gives us a chance to become known and also loved. This is our big chance to bring something new and unique in today's music history," stated Zed K., artist, producer and writer for the group RUN BY LOVE.

About Conversion Solutions, Inc
CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU and WHSC are headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta.

More information:

http://www.cvsu.us

Current Joint Ventures
American International Smart Structure
Brittenum Brothers Entertainment, Inc.
Rocky Road Records, Inc.
Seko Management Inc.

Current CVSU Subsidiaries
Tserof Holdings Inc
CVSU Coffee Shop
Equine Solutions Inc

Waatle Merger Subsidiaries
Live Mortgage Free
Federal Chamber of Commerce
Center State Beverage
LotteryFever.com
InfinityOne Inc
Amruss Group, LLC
LoanShoppers.com
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
10: "CVSU is being "consumed" by FHAL, FHAL is "bancrupt"...givin that fact according to the "sec rules"...they can stop the trading and set the price with their new assets (CVSU)"

what you describe is a more or less typical r/m...

how does this relate to the regs that allow "adjusting" the pps?

I know Rufus keeps mentioning that it is like a bankruptcy. So how did KALUQ stop trading on the pinks one day for what about a dollar maybe less and then the next day begin trading as KALU at $44.

I think this is the same thing. Kaiser Aluminum was in reorganization. When they came out they were able to reset their price. The only difference there was that everyone who owned KALUQ lost everything to the creditors. No creditors here since CVSU is assuming the debt of FHAL.

That's how I think it is done.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
someone earlier was looking for the bond number
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tex...I know that you are trying to get me to post clearly with facts.and back up why i say...but I am to tired right now...the info is in these threads...and in the 8K...

everyone do you DD...

Night night!!!

10, you have been able to follow much more closely; if there's something I'm misfiring on, I would appreciate knowing....

If you don't know, that's cool...

headed to bed myself
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
this link should give you confirmation of the bonds existence at euroclear's website:

http://www.euroclear.com/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_E0/.cmd/ad/.ar/6330231/.p s/X/.c/6_0_77/.ce/7_0_E3/.p/5_0_7K/.d/0?PC_7_0_E3_AdvancedSearchEB=No&PC_7_0_E3_ jspPageAction=SearchEB&PC_7_0_E3_forceAdvancedSearch=false&PC_7_0_E3_search_radi o=isin&PC_7_0_E3_search_select=contains&PC_7_0_E3_search_text=US922646AT10&PC_7_ 0_E3_results_select1=name&PC_7_0_E3_results_select2=asc
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
REPUBLIC OF VENEZUE 13.6250 15/08/18
US922646AT10
008975540
13.625
USD
06 Aug 1998
15 Aug 2006
14 Aug 2006
G
BOND
31 Jul 1998

Euroclear sitr posted above. 13.625 is the interest rate
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Found this Tex, let me know what you think:

Establishing The Initial Stock Price - Once a reverse merger is completed, a broker/dealer must decide to make a public market in the stock. The market makers, in conjunction with the company, determine the initial price for the stock. Perceived value, the "sex appeal," track record and potential growth of the company usually have more to do with initial pricing than earnings multiples and current book values. Competent investor relations and supportive market makers as well as management’s ability to relate the company’s potential to investors are of key importance.Ultimately, the public market acceptance of the company will determine the market price for the stock.


full link http://www.venturea.com/shell.htm
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
Someone is going to get hurt big time here ! Either us longs or people who sold out today. This has definately been THE penny of '06 !
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
Wallymac, I'm just stating what the guy from Schwab told me today. Now of course he might be some underpaid broker/advisor who doesn't know his head from his arse. But he seemed pretty certain.

Maybe he was wrong ! I hope so.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
http://www.prnewstoday.com/release.htm?cat=banking-financial-services&dat=200604 27&rl=CLTH10527042006-1
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
This is my first post ... I'm looking forward to contributing ...

I would like to suggest we pull together our thoughts to not only achieve $15 but to move beyond. The new stock will move based on fundamentals of CVSU for sure. I think we have alot to learn about CVSU and it's assets - maybe we could gather information to show how the $15 pps (and beyond) will be supported.

Coinciding with that, could it be that Fhal is so shorted that there will not be enough shares available to cover all the "shorts"? Rufus has bought up the Float except for a small amount. He believes (according to the M N 1 dialog)that he knows current CVSU shareholders who own as much themselves! He believes there may be some 20 million shares plus currently in the float. This means the short plays are huge!

Who is going to supply the shares to cover? There is only one source I know of ... if you were Rufus, how much would you sell them for? What could the proceeds be used for? Hey, how about using the money to help support the $15 pps by buying back some shares as it transitions at closing?

All we have to do for operation "short squeeze" is to hold our shares and, for those who can, "buy the krap out of it!" The "shorts" will be forced into buying what they can ... some will sell but not enough as it seems.

I called M N 1 for post interview comments and found out that this may very well be discussed tomorrow on M N 1 on the b u y i n s . n e t discussion. If you have'nt heard this yet, it is all about short plays, squeezes, triggers, etc. M N 1 said they may talk specifically about FHAL. You can check m n 1 . c o m for the schedule.
 
Posted by SuperSniper00 on :
 
if the stock is going to trade at $15, why in the world would anybody sell their shares anything short of $15?

the stock could go to .0001 and it doesnt matter
 
Posted by DDA on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cool AZ:
This is my first post ... I'm looking forward to contributing ...

I would like to suggest we pull together our thoughts to not only achieve $15 but to move beyond. The new stock will move based on fundamentals of CVSU for sure. I think we have alot to learn about CVSU and it's assets - maybe we could gather information to show how the $15 pps (and beyond) will be supported.

Coinciding with that, could it be that Fhal is so shorted that there will not be enough shares available to cover all the "shorts"? Rufus has bought up the Float except for a small amount. He believes (according to the M N 1 dialog)that he knows current CVSU shareholders who own as much themselves! He believes there may be some 20 million shares plus currently in the float. This means the short plays are huge!

Who is going to supply the shares to cover? There is only one source I know of ... if you were Rufus, how much would you sell them for? What could the proceeds be used for? Hey, how about using the money to help support the $15 pps by buying back some shares as it transitions at closing?

All we have to do for operation "short squeeze" is to hold our shares and, for those who can, "buy the krap out of it!" The "shorts" will be forced into buying what they can ... some will sell but not enough as it seems.

I called M N 1 for post interview comments and found out that this may very well be discussed tomorrow on M N 1 on the b u y i n s . n e t discussion. If you have'nt heard this yet, it is all about short plays, squeezes, triggers, etc. M N 1 said they may talk specifically about FHAL. You can check m n 1 . c o m for the schedule.

CoolAZ,

Welcome to this board !
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
a much more positive vibe coming from the board this morning!
always good to see that the deep DD yields legit info.

i see green today, but then again it's hard to see straight this early [Wink]

good luck today all & happy hump day!
~BB
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
My take is that we are fine, in fact I'll be buying some more today, funds just cleared [Smile]

We still have a deal signed, everything is a go from what I see and hear.

With something this big you have to expect the rumor mill to be hot, I have to see this through, I agree this IS the penny of 2006 (second will be wwen [Smile]

I heard there was a lady who was talking to Rufus and said that she borrowed against her home and that she was a single parent, she was all freaked out and Rufus told her that if the stock didn't open at $15 a share that HE would buy them back from her...

Did anyone else hear that?
If I got out of this now and didn't see it through and find out that I could have sold this for ANYWHERE around $15, or $10 or even $5 I would hate myself! lol ~

We are strong and going LONGGGGG ~ IMO [Smile]

GLTA ~ Peace out ~
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Post on Scottrade's Alerts and News page this morning at "7/26/2006 7:17:10 AM ET."
.
.
The Street Alert LLC: Alert
Wall Street, NYC, Jul 25, 2006 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- The Street Alert) (www.TheStreetAlert.com) has its eyes on the following stocks.
(OTCBB: UBDE), (OTCBB: TSSP), (OTC: PAIM), (OTCBB: FHAL), (OTCBB: XSNX), (OTCBB:NEXH).
.
.
(OTCBB: FHAL) The FrontHaul Group is a publicly held Delaware corporation with branch offices in Rockwall, TX. The FrontHaul Group expects to grow their business specifically in the areas of 3rd party logistics, which includes but is
not limited too Transportation Brokerage and Motor Carrier services
CURRENT WEEKS (partial week) TRADING ACTIIVITY (7/24/06 - 7/24/06) 11,455,076
shares with a High of 1.64 and a Low of 1.22.
PREVIOUS WEEKS TRADING ACTIVITY (7/17/06 - 7/21/06) 55,961,282 shares with a High of 1.57 and a Low of .16."


Probably old news from difference in date of post and Street's release date.


Anyway, GLTA today!
 
Posted by AshyToClassy on :
 
Arrghhhhh!! It's still dark out west and haven't got enough sleep. But I'm buying a crap load today. I can't stop supporting this stock. Common folks put the buying pressure on. See you at opening bell.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Palmetto trees gently swaying in the breeze. The surf calm as glass working on high tide and the laptop out at the tiki bar.

I'm all ready if it tanks more or if it runs. [Smile]
 
Posted by Egg Inspector on :
 
peaser?
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by portman:
Palmetto trees gently swaying in the breeze. The surf calm as glass working on high tide and the laptop out at the tiki bar.

I'm all ready if it tanks more or if it runs. [Smile]

Order an umbrella drink for me!
 
Posted by invester on :
 
WWEN is already shaping up to be the next FHAL. They have $17.50 for a book value. 1.7b in revs. 97 million outstanding. The similarities are astounding. GOOD LUCK GUYS.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
That part about his last name is kinda funny. If you look for the podcasts in M N 1 it lits 2 from Fronthaul from CEO Rufus Harrison!! I want to call those idiots, i just might!

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
wally, i think you are very correct in the 'acted as if' part of your statement.

"im sorry sir, what is your last name?" (he said to rufus harris)
give me a break. that was downright insulting, and i doubt they dont know who is coming on their own show.

dont you think they would be very aware of who cancelled their earlier appearance and screwed with the day's schedule???

that dumping was so orchestrated my finger never even came close to the trigger.

~BB


Acted as if they didn't know anything about the merger and then after Rufus and Ben left acted like they knew the whole story.
GLTA
Wally


 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
Cheap shares at this level, i am going to pick up some more this morn..
 
Posted by invester on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by invester:
WWEN is already shaping up to be the next FHAL. They have $17.50 for a book value. 1.7b in revs. 97 million outstanding. The similarities are astounding. GOOD LUCK GUYS.

The PR will be out tomorrow.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
Good Morning. This is the very first individual stock I have EVER purchased...so far it is better than poker, fantasy leagues, races, or jumping out of airplanes! I can't wait to see what happens. I may have found my next vice:)
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Whats really Happening here. Rufus vs the shorts.

Found this on the Web:

Establishing The Initial Stock Price - Once a reverse merger is completed, a broker/dealer must decide to make a public market in the stock. The market makers, in conjunction with the company, determine the initial price for the stock. Perceived value, the "sex appeal," track record and potential growth of the company usually have more to do with initial pricing than earnings multiples and current book values. Competent investor relations and supportive market makers as well as management’s ability to relate the company’s potential to investors are of key importance.Ultimately, the public market acceptance of the company will determine the market price for the stock.

Basically it means that the Reason Rufus has been posting and doing interviews is that he is trying to convince the Market that his stock is worth $15 or more. The shorts are here, and very persistant, not because they want to make a few bucks on small drops, but because reverse mergers can be a huge score for them. If they scare us into thinking that this thing will tank, they cause us to panic sell right after it goes to $15. Then they short it and ride the wave from $15 down to $1.00, they end up with teh big score that we are trying to get. This is also the reason that Rufus wanted us to get certs. With certs out, less people can short (except for naked shorts) and also we will have to hold longer. It is also the reason that Rufus keeps saying that the current price does not matter. Because it doesn't....yet.

This works out to Rufus vs.the shorters, and our money is the prize. If the shorters win, we lose our money and Rufus has a cheap company. If Rufus wins, we all win and the shorts die.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
what will fhal do today..Very curious... i am buying wwen heavily but will keep an eye on this baby also
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Premarket Bid 1.045 x Ask 1.02.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
What will FHAL do?.... It'll go back to where it should be! The selloff was panic, we have a deal signed remember? BIG day today I bet!

I'm showing bids higher then asking prices now!
Everyone and their mother will be buying this at this price! lol ~

Including me!!!

GLTA ~
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by djg7:
Premarket Bid 1.045 x Ask 1.02.

Yeah I see that too but now it is 1.05 Bid. This is rediculous. I am hoping to get some more shares under a buck. Looks like it won't be a problem.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Why is the ask so much lower than the bid? What the hell are people doing? This thing wants to go up!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I started thinking last night(Uh OH!) the more people that sell right now the better, then I don't have to compete with them trying to sell at $15. HA Todays going to great. GLTA
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
1.05 x 1.06.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
There we go. starting to go up [Smile]
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
1.07 x 1.08
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
1.08 x 1.09
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
people who don't do their D & D don't make the $$$$

Sorry, but I'm taking scared moneies shares...
Darn... looks like it's going to bounce back up fast!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
1.10 x 1.09 seriously who is driving this boat? Oh well, I won't complain I am still long, and hungry for more.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
OT: If anyone even remotely cares XCHEM has news out this morning...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
OT: If anyone even remotely cares XCHEM has news out this morning...

Yea ive been waiting for that for weeks. Already have my order in but its looking like a chase already. Im not sure ill get in at the price i would like.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Holding my FHAL shares here.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
Holding my FHAL shares here.

Yea, me too....i just like to spread the love around a bit. [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
who isn't! LOL ~~
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
morning!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Mornin peeps - ready for another funky roller coaster ride?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
OT: I bought a couple shares yesterday based on it's recent tank hood and overwhelming unpopularity. I hate the Nigerian connection, but love the Pharm/Bio Chem, side of it. Was hoping for a few bucks from the deal. GLTU
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
i hope you weren't referencing that comment of scared money to me, because i got out yesterday at 1.59 to my investment went over to wwen made a little over 200% can sell my shares this morning and get back in fhal 50-60cents cheaper than i was in yesterday with way more shares, looks like i need a round of applause for one heck of a play yesterday, maybe some or just jealous, i am proud of myself and my play, and i am still in fhal long, you didn't see me panicing during the sell off last night like some, i kept strong
 
Posted by Gameplayers on :
 
I am gonna buy more right at open, cos ppl who panic sold yesterday are gonna buy today, so i am gonna grab cheap shares at these levels!!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Good luck, i dont think you can get in for less than 1.11 today. Gapping huge by the looks of it
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Wow FHAL and WWEN are off to the races...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Lots of buys
 
Posted by Braindamaged on :
 
Nice bounce I can feel the whiplash
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
going right back up to 1.50+
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Good morning all and gltya.. [Wink]
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
Beautiful start - congrats to all who didn't shake loose yesterday! GLTA
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
mornin all... nice open but i don't like that big gap.... will it need to be filled???? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Think it's already filled...hmmm
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
jeese...it's moving as fast as it did yesterday evening, lol...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
FRONTHAUL GROUP INC (FHAL) OTC Type: OTCBB

This is what I found on short interest for July.

Short Interest for July 2006

Short
Interest 45,105
Percent Change 100.00
Average Daily 2,128,542
Share Volume Days to
Cover 1.00
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
This is a reverse gap Prowds. Its filling upward [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I also held, yesterday. Nothing has changed so why would I sell?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Couldn't catch it on the way up. Moving nearly as fast as it was yesterday...thankfully in the other direction!!

Jo
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
1.32
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
dip...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Little profiteers getting out at $1.33
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
This is like trying to climb a mud mountain. 2 steps forward 10 steps back.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Flippers will have a field day with this today
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
picking back up...
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I am sure this will be an up and down day, with flippers and then people buying back in. Name of the game...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
We should be back up to 1.3 soon. We have bid support and the ask is very thin. Lets GO!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
so i quess were ok!hope we have a good day!!predictions on day EOD?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
MM's are letting this move a lot easier than previous days, if people would quit selling(yea right) we would be over $2 real quick! IMO
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Forget the shorts, I don't care about 'um. I think they were stupid if they tried to short this.

I say screw um. I'm holding regardless. They ain't getting none of my shares.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
So far so good today.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
This is gunna run real soon here...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
So who's going to win percentage war today, FHAL or WWEN. Looks like FHAL is in the lead!!
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Yep, likin' the chart maumee.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
here we go....Yesterday will hopefully be a short memory soon...I hope!!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Have any of you done dd on LFWK. I think it has the potential of WWEN and FHAL.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
In the long run that sell off yesterday might really help us, alot of trigger happy people got out, I'm sure the same ones that would bale after the merger... -See what I'm saying?

This might really be setting up to be the stock play of a lifetime...
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Nope fryyguy, FHAL isn't done IMO.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Peaser,

Thats the only time I'll mention it. My heart is still here. Just looking for the next FHAL.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
likin'it so far!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Me too SYGY. Looks like last night was a flippers dream.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Ascending triangle forming, look for a break out ~
IMO
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
Have any of you done dd on LFWK. I think it has the potential of WWEN and FHAL.

LFWK has been saying that since the thread began...read the begining of the LFWK thread...perhaps it's going to happen be I don't see it...GLTY
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
1.26 - 1.27 bounce IMO.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
got 11500 '''likin' that too!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://otcbb.com/dynamic/shortinterest/shrt200607.txt i-hub posted this shortlist
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
doni did you actually sell at 1.50's and buy backin morning? i held and bought 1000 more at 1.19
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Pennant ending very soon here IMO.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
No SYGY, I am at work and I missed the beginning of the tank, so I was forced to hold. But I am in at .29, so its all good.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
needs to get to a new HOD...IMO
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
very good doni! hey peaser what does that penant tell you?
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
1.33 movin'
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
As long as the sells are minimal, we move up.

My opinion only, I believe that we'll get back to yesterday's levels today. We'll see.

I am holding either way.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
I'm guessing we break through the resistance of 1.33 area around 11:10. That's the end of the current pennant so far that I see.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I would like to see yesterdays levels again. But really, after reading pages and pages on reverse mergers last night, I believe that Rufus is correct. The price of FHAL doesn't maen too much right now (if your going to hold through the merger). The price WILL be $15, and then its a war. Rufus will try and keep it up with PR's and valuations that tell us that its worth more and news of contracts. The shorts and bashers will kepp telling us "theres no free money" "This isn't right" "Uh Oh..look out".

If the thing crashes from $15 down to .01 then the shorts have made the profit that we wish we could have made.

Rufus vs. The shorters coming soon to a stock ticker near you.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
New HOD [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
*Yawn* where are all the bashers from last night? I was so hoping to have them around for good company this morning. Oh well.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
lol catia
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
just keep on climbing up
 
Posted by MHampton on :
 
OT: WWEN seems to have run out of steam
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Remember what Rufus said about the 10k, it will be out by thursday at the latest! Hmmm, what is tomorrow anyways? Ohhhhhhhhhh
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
TIC-TOCK! the clock is getting closer!!!!yaa-hooo!!ticker change a comin"""
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I just posted my last post on Ihub for the day. I had to respond to some idiot basher who actually believed that because CVSU will be listed at $15 it would make it almost as valuable as Microsoft which is currently in the 20's. LOL. I guess the little idiot never thought of Outstanding shares or Market Cap. what a joke these bashers can be.

By the way MSFT's market cap (reported on Yahoo) is 243.80B

LOL, yeah, thats close.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
your right WWEN is down!!!and we were told to buy!!!LOL!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Already have my sell order in with WWEN. Im hoping for a small spike and i made good money in less than 2 days. So far im not seeing the spike however. [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I bought some WWEN, with a few bucks I had.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
WWEN has just begun and so has FHAL, it's a win, win situation. WWEN is suppose to have another PR tomorrow. Enough about WWEN, I'm still excited for the rest of the week in FHAL!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
NEW HOD [Smile]
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
new HIV
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
new HIV

whats wrong stock?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Been listening to M N 1 this morning and it has been pretty good the last half hour. They have been getting harassed by FHAL us investors all morning. They bashed Raven Media pretty good but their email and instant messages have been overwhelmed by ticked off "How do you like me now" FHAL investors.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I don't think Stock is very pleased with this play...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Sweet.


Hey Stock, you should be happier today man.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Every time we hit a new high the flippers stop it. Don't they realize that a flip at $1.70 is better than at $1.45??? C'mon flippys, give it a chance to run more than .05 at a time.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
lol im ok everyone, i was saying new HIV for new HOD...^_^
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Doniboy, they need to pay their electric bill.

But if they waited til $1.70, they could pay their gas bill too.

Jo
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
lol im ok everyone, i was saying new HIV for new HOD...^_^

OHHH!!! So you were tryin your hand at comedy.....

I Get it!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
OK Here's my wishful thinking prediction. The 10K and the SB4 come out simultaneously, either later today or tomorrow morning. Trading is halted. While we are "blacked out" CVSU releases its first PR which will be a wildly positive one involving AISS. People start chomping at the bit to get back in with their new stock. The shorts throw their money at $15, but the news is too good for people to sell on, even with the possible 10 bagger from here. It moves up to around $24 and levels out. [Smile]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
doni lets hope your right:D... i've been calling all morning trying to verify that about the 10k and sb4 but the byastards won't answer:D hahaha... ah well, hopefully i get them one of these times
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
OK Here's my wishful thinking prediction. The 10K and the SB4 come out simultaneously, either later today or tomorrow morning. Trading is halted. While we are "blacked out" CVSU releases its first PR which will be a wildly positive one involving AISS. People start chomping at the bit to get back in with their new stock. The shorts throw their money at $15, but the news is too good for people to sell on, even with the possible 10 bagger from here. It moves up to around $24 and levels out. [Smile]

Let me take a drag off that!!
 
Posted by Phoenix on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
Good Morning. This is the very first individual stock I have EVER purchased...so far it is better than poker, fantasy leagues, races, or jumping out of airplanes! I can't wait to see what happens. I may have found my next vice:)

Welcome to the madness. [Smile] Never invest more than you can afford to lose, and always protect your profits (sell some shares to make profit, ride the rest) and you'll do alright [Smile]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Doniboy, this is how I think it will go down. PR's on the 10k SB4 late tonight or tomorrow. After people get their jaws off the floor, a huge surge of buying will happen. Another PR on friday, hard to pin point which one(let's see this billion dollar contract or this one). That momentum drives us into the weekend and Monday they reset the ticker to $15 and FINALLY the big boys move in buying up all the cheap shares at $15. JMO -Cassity
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Maumee, oh yee of little faith...lol

You have any free shares riding this bad boy?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
LOL!! No man....I Got caught up in that shake yesterday.....It was all 10's fault....She won't admit it though....I'm in an comfortable with it..
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Dude, Rufus got on Ihub and has threatened some bashers to withdrawl their statements by Friday or he is going to get the law involved. Be careful what kind of false accusations you make, opinions are fine, but stating false information can get your a$$ in trouble. GO RUFUS!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Who are you talkin to cassity??
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by invester:
quote:
Originally posted by invester:
WWEN is already shaping up to be the next FHAL. They have $17.50 for a book value. 1.7b in revs. 97 million outstanding. The similarities are astounding. GOOD LUCK GUYS.

The PR will be out tomorrow.
WWEN's CEO will be on M N 1 Thursday.
PANIC IN THE STREETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SELL SELL SELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just a little humour,I have no position there
GO CVSU!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
LOL!! No man....I Got caught up in that shake yesterday.....It was all 10's fault....She won't admit it though....I'm in an comfortable with it..

My fault??? Why because after days of not listening...you chose that day to listen? LOL..

OK..blaim me...since you already pissed on my dinner...(which was actually quite good!)..we'll call it even...LOL

MMMMUUUUWWWWAAAAHHHH!
[Wink]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Check this out:

Communication Number: 252455777-072606-BOD

To: Poster Vitamin DD

Reference: Msg. 13936

Your post was brought to my attention by this board.

Sir or Madam, I do not know you or even know of you, but I believe that everyone deserves a chance to correct his mistakes, with that;

You are hereby notified that I, Rufus Paul Harris feels that you have violated my rights by your continued posting of abusive, harassing, defamatory, offensive, harmful and false statements.

It is hereby requested that you withdraw and cause to be withdrew any false statements that you have made about me or Conversion Solutions, Inc with in 48 hours of this post 12:00 pm Friday, July 28, 2006) or legal actions will be forthcoming. Any posting that the above named parties are addressed with abusive, harassing, defamatory, offensive, harmful and false statements is incorporated by this reference.

I feel that you have violated the telecommunications statute which prohibits anyone from using a telephone or a telecommunications device (includes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet (as such term is defined in section 1104 of the Internet Tax Freedom Act (47 U.S.C. 151 note))) “without disclosing of his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person."

Feel free to contact myself or have your attorney to contact me to resolve this issue as follows prior to 12:00 pm Friday, July 28, 2006;

Sir or Madam, May you have an excellent day and GODSPEED

Rufus Paul Harris
Chairman & CEO
Conversion Solutions, Inc.
(OTC BB: FHAL)
125 TownPark Dr. Suite 300
Kennesaw, Georgia 30144
Office: 770-420-8270
Cell: 678-255-7650
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
The Vitamin DD guy took down the post and now is nowhere to be found...lol
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hey all... bad news;) haha, j/k... just got off the phone with mr. stanley... they are working on 10k and said the s4 will be right after the 10k as we all thought. said it will definately be released this week... (damn him... i picked and prodded but he wouldn't give me the exact day:) lol) and the ticker change date... he said the paperwork is submitted and they are just waiting to hear back if it's approved. oh, he also said that they are waiting to hear back about the 10k and s4 so i would imagine that it will be out sooooooon... g/l all and lets hope this pans out the way we *wish* it will:D haha
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
sounds goody!!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
The post was still there when I looked.

But I have heeded the advice of those posters below me and have edited it out of this post!
[Cool]

[ July 26, 2006, 12:38: Message edited by: Jo4321 ]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Thansk Prowds. By the way...that is step one of my wishful prediction... [Smile]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Uhhmmmm,,,JO!!!.....

If rufus just put out the threat of leagle action to vitimin DD, What makes you think he can't do it to you just for reposting false info???

I'd be hitten the EDIT button if I was you...

Just a thought..
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
yeah Jo, 86 that crap. [Smile]
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Don't think that vit dd pos belongs here -- must be way short!
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
KEEPING the faith!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
good call Jo! LOL
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
GONE.....posted deleted
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
Whoops .....MANY APOLOGIES....wrong thread.....
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Don't apologize, delete it.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
Whoops .....MANY APOLOGIES....wrong thread.....

GLTY [Wink]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Don't apologize, delete it.

yes please do! use the edit function and erase it please!
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
To all: Its edited.....Stepped out for an hour and go too rushed in posting the PR and openned the wrong tab....will be more careful....
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Ok, back to my favorite subject...shorting of FHAL.

If they bring out the financials and merger stuff and then halt FHAL trading, what happens to the short sellers? Rufus has said that the shorts would have to cover before the transition, but if they get caught by the halt how can they cover?

I just don't want my shares to have any problems on the way to $100 :0.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
hey all... bad news;) haha, j/k... just got off the phone with mr. stanley... they are working on 10k and said the s4 will be right after the 10k as we all thought. said it will definately be released this week... (damn him... i picked and prodded but he wouldn't give me the exact day:) lol) and the ticker change date... he said the paperwork is submitted and they are just waiting to hear back if it's approved. oh, he also said that they are waiting to hear back about the 10k and s4 so i would imagine that it will be out sooooooon... g/l all and lets hope this pans out the way we *wish* it will:D haha

Thanks Rowds, its good we dont all have to call wasting their time with questions. Again, i say, i dont need to because i have you!

Thanks again. [Smile]
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Milliam - They can go to
Rufus and buy the shares needed to cover their short position - who else has shares?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Ok, back to my favorite subject...shorting of FHAL.

If they bring out the financials and merger stuff and then halt FHAL trading, what happens to the short sellers? Rufus has said that the shorts would have to cover before the transition, but if they get caught by the halt how can they cover?

I just don't want my shares to have any problems on the way to $100 :0.

I would still think that they would have to cover there shorts (no punn intended)
When trading starts again they will have to buy to hedge there losses...SHORT SQUEEZ???

This could cause this to get over the $15.00 mark in a hurry..

just a thought...

Any takers??
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee...Peaser...care to share what you are seeing in your charting?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
sumthin flaughed about my above post....just can't seem to put my finger on it...LOL
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
m n 1 is talking about FHAL and they still do not know how to summarize the whole thing -- their getting tired about this stock. Maybe there needs to be some dd done by m n 1.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha not a prob catia...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Maumee...Peaser...care to share what you are seeing in your charting?

NO WAY!!!

j/k

lookin now ....will be right back
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
sumthin flaughed about my above post....just can't seem to put my finger on it...LOL

Nah...it's just you....
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Maumee...the only thing going against that is that Rufus said they would have to cover before the change over. I guess they might be able to pull something off to transfer it over to the new symbol, but I hope it would be really hard for them to do so.

If there's going to be a short squeeze, I think it will be before the symbol change...as in the next few days!!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
m n 1 is bashing us again... They want a credit report on the Venez Bond. Talking about Chavez holding guns and his love of Cuba, and keep misquoting 500 million as 500 thousand.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Why the crash starting here again?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
OOPS!! wrong market...sorry 10
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
something about ********** ...
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Way to go M N 1 - idiots
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
m n 1 is talking bad about it again, lol...
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
that is s t o c k l e m o n ...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
We made stoc k le m on...

h t t p :// w w w .s t o c k l e m o n . c o m/
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Gah! Major slump....is there an M N 1 interview coming soon or something?!?!
 
Posted by jasbran on :
 
WTF is going on????
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
Just another trick to trigger stop loss orders
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
We'll sick Rufus on them! Good buying opportunity!
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
Good time to buy again, wish i had some more funds to pick up some of these shares.
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
Just another trick to trigger stop loss orders
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea, well M N 1 and S t o cklem on have just tanked us again. Is this thing so paper thin that a couple of writers can crush it like this!?!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I'm gulpin...but holdin'....ARGH!!!!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
double...sorry
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
What do the L2's look like?
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
Damn, my L2s stopped. How far did it goes down, or is it still going down?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
wish i had free funds....
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
I love this disclaimer:
**********.com does not guarantee in any way that it is providing all of the information that may be available. We recommend that you do your own due diligence before buying or selling any security. At any times the principals of **********.com might hold a position in any of the securities profiled on the site. **********.com will not report when a position is initiated or covered. Each investor must make that decision based on his/her judgment of the market.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
WTF?! i leave expecting... "well no need to watch this today" to come back to see this because of two sites?! wow... this is ridiculous... please 10k and s4.... save us:D
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
1.03 x 1.03
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
holdin at 1.02-1.03
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
hang on people.... still the same stock
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Oh no, the last run in I had with stock le mon was with STTK.

That stock went from $1.60 to now at .18

This stinks.

Jo
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Darn....I got impatient and threw my last grand in at 1.25. I had a 1.00 order in from yesterday, but I didn't think we'd see that. Oh well...I'm all in!
 
Posted by Phoenix on :
 
I'll say one thing...this thing has impressive support at a buck...FWIW
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
support on the chart at or around .89...declining line...not lookin good for the home team...

faith is dwindeling now doni!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
climbing again
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
patience!!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I love how these organizations claim they are posting these things to "help" us as investors. They posted NOTHING new, just glorified what we already knew. But, its enough to put us right back where we started this morning.

They are gonna have to release some financials soon or this is giong to come apart.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I'm gulpin...but holdin'....ARGH!!!!

It's always best to do it that way 10!!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
**********.com will not report when a position is initiated or covered. Each investor must make that decision based on his/her judgment of the market.
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
Well I filled, I had a $1.05 buy in. Lets rock!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Well, if my experience with stock le mon taught me anything, it is that it doesn't matter if that site is telling the truth or not. The market reacts in a negative way to what it posts - whether true or untrue.

STTK later filed a law suit against them, but still their stock sits at .18.

Jo
 
Posted by Fuzzy1018 on :
 
goin' up fast
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Guess those shorts must not like reading all the predictions of what might happen once the IPO happens... I didn't want to sound like a pumper, but if you look into the numbers that could very well happen so look for hardball plays like this with all the rumors of that huge short squeeze setting in.

This just tells me that we are riding the REAL DEAL. IMO

Said it once and I'll say it again, I'm LONG! [Smile]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
maybe i need to take my chances and start flipping this... like every day:D
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Ther has been a few good flips, hasn't there?
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
m n 1 is saying s t o c k lemon may have been hired by short interests to drive the price down!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
yeah maumee seems everyday is a good flip day... but i just don't have the balls:D dunno if i even wanna try now with that 10k and s4 coming out either today or tomorrow...

NOTE: not a guarantee it will be out today or tomorrow... just going off what rufus said and ben stanley said it *will* be out this week...
 
Posted by Fuzzy1018 on :
 
i say we close at 1.3 today; any predictions
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
We are going back up right now, L2's have thinned BIG time on the ask and the Bid support looks great. IMO
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
looks like panic sellers are trying to maximize thier losses LOL!!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
That was before ACRA started pounding away! A-holes.
 
Posted by Fuzzy1018 on :
 
droppin' bad
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Maybe this will help shake out the weak ones and soon they will be gone for good!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Glad i have an appointment...hopefully when I get back there will be good things...can't stand to watch the in between stupid games...

Still holdin' we will se what Friday brings!

GLTA!
 
Posted by Lets help eachother out on :
 
SCAM!!!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
darn, darn, darn (this is the clean version).

Darn impatientence!!!

Oh well, holding for greener times.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
support on the chart at or around .89...declining line...not lookin good for the home team...

faith is dwindeling now doni!!

bump??
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
This is a major lemon press.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lets help eachother out:
SCAM!!!

thank you again...LOL!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lets help eachother out:
SCAM!!!

Hey, i was wondering when your lame a$$ would be back! Welcome back to the party!
 
Posted by Lets help eachother out on :
 
I told you guys yesterday, SCAM. IF A CEO PROMISES TO MAKE YOU 15 TIMES YOUR MONEY, IT IS A SCAM. YOU GUYS ARE REDICULOUS!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
actualle support now at around 85
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
to be honoust,expecting 15 bucks per share and trading at a dollar for a week doesn't make sense because it should have been closer to 15 bucks...that was my biggest worry and i got out at 1.05 dollar...we shall see within a week
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
So what is going on here? One hell of a shake or what? Still wish i had a couple thousand to put in this. I have not sold one share, holding till merger maybe longer..
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Please shout up..... thank you ~
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
10 if this keep up, I'm "P-n" on more than your dinner!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
This is the same stock... no one found reason for a scam....
 
Posted by Lets help eachother out on :
 
The company has $9,416 in cash.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
10 if this keep up, I'm "P-n" on more than your dinner!!

LOL..you have to find me...!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Another panic. I got out, but it really is a shame. The bashers have won this round. All i know is that the Stock lemon guy should go to jail. Imagine crashing a stock because you are trying to save people from losing their money...LOL. What a piece of shiiit.

Recalculating the price is part of a reverse merger every single time. CVSU is bigger than the bankrupt FHAL. This is just foolish. But I can't take the illegal manipulation any longer.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
OK....it's tryin....It may just bee gettin some more down side steam built up too....tough to say...MM's are worken over time on this one..
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
... haven't sold a share yet ... looking to get more as soon as I can!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
within a week we should know if all this was true or not...but i can't take such a big risk...maybe i buy 1000 shares as a lottery ticket now
 
Posted by Lets help eachother out on :
 
If any investor believes they can buy stock shares for $1.30 apiece, and then have Rufus wave his magic wand over them and have them be worth $15, then I guess you deserve what might be coming to you. As much as we believe SEC intervention should be imminent, it is not the responsibility of the government to protect people from their own stupidity. Just remember the one rule we all learned in kindergarten, “If it seems to good to be true, it probably is.”
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lets help eachother out:
I told you guys yesterday, SCAM. IF A CEO PROMISES TO MAKE YOU 15 TIMES YOUR MONEY, IT IS A SCAM. YOU GUYS ARE REDICULOUS!!!

Look I have listen to your dumba$$ on the WWEN thread, when you actually know what your talking about, please fill free to share! Bye Bye [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
10 if this keep up, I'm "P-n" on more than your dinner!!

LOL..you have to find me...!
Well I know you won't be in Australia!!!

I'll narrow it down from there...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
This is the same stock... no one found reason for a scam....
This is what I mentioned before. It really doesn't matter. When it is posted on that site, the share price suffers. I expect it to go lower when people come home and are able to read their article. I got out with a small loss of profits only, but all my capital and most profits are safe.

I'll wait til the stock le mon dust settles and perhaps find another entry point.

I hope I didn't make a mistake in selling with all the news coming out this week.

Jo
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Guys... Does this mean anything to you all, or is it just old news? I just got this from Fidelity...

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Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
M N 1 is definitely in on this they just confirmed their motivation for yesterday. Sounds as if the used the interest in FHAL to pump a stock they liked. Meaning they knew the interest was there and their bumbling of the CEO's name and their knowledge of the stock and situation goes much deeper than what they protraited yesterday.

M N 1 = manipulators, and they have not stopped today. They mention FHAL at least once every five minutes and it is always in a negative speculative light including lower PPS predictions.
 
Posted by Fuzzy1018 on :
 
IMO mm's are playin' games to pick up cheap shares we should go back up today, if not then definatly tom.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
NEWS OUT!!!!

Conversion Solutions, Inc. Releases Public Warning to www.our-street.com and www.**********.com Owners
Wednesday July 26, 2:02 pm ET


KENNESAW, Ga., July 26 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC: CVSU - News), (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL - News), a Delaware Corporation, releases this warning to the registered owners of www.our-street.com and www.**********.com.
ADVERTISEMENT


We hereby issue this public order for you to cease and desist and retract the false and misleading information that you have posted about Conversion Solutions, Inc. and The Fronthaul Group or legal action is forthcoming.

We feel that you have violated the telecommunications statute which prohibits anyone from using a telephone or a telecommunications device (includes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet (as such term is defined in section 1104 of the Internet Tax Freedom Act (47 U.S.C. 151 note)) "without disclosing of his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person."

If anyone feels that they have been persuaded by the influence of www.our- street.com or www.**********.com not to invest into our company or to sell and would like to join a legal suit to recoup their losses, please send an email with your complete contact information to stopthefraud*cvsu.us .

"It is time to stop the fraudulent, false and misleading statements posted on public websites about public officials, companies and their officers. These people need to be hit where it hurts, in the pocket," stated CEO, Rufus Paul Harris.

About Conversion Solutions, Inc.

CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at www.cvsu.us.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Source: Conversion Solutions, Inc.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
well that's better!news
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
LOL, it doesn't matter. STTK did the same thing, even filing a lawsuit, yet Stock le mon's profile of them still sits on their site.

Jo
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so will this make a difference? or does it look like thy're trying to cover something up?
 
Posted by Fuzzy1018 on :
 
there we , up up up & up
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I don't Know,, Rufus may sound like a truck driven hick to some of ya....But to me he sounds "NO NONSENSE"!!!

I like that in a person!!!

SICK -UM RUFUS!!!!!

Rip there Nads off!! You animal!!!!

I'm really startin to like that Guy!!
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
Past article.......
http://www.****************.com/specialstock/specialstocklogin.html
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
to release that he must be pretty pi$$ed...
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
This is just too crazy for me. Has anyone else ever experienced a stock like this?????
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
.97 What a bummer!!
 
Posted by atleast on :
 
holds much better that STTK did
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I am glad I still some in this one, but also glad I sold some a few days ago..
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
wtfcraszychuiat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
.93 now...

but if you look at the L2's only 6 or 7 are staying below a dollar...and it's really thin...

and look at the volume in the last hour...
 
Posted by jasbran on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
wtfcraszychuiat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I couldn't have said it better!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
This is F-ing crazy!!!

Makes no sense at all..

STILL IN!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jasbran:
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
wtfcraszychuiat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I couldn't have said it better!
I was gunna say it, but I didn't know how to spell it..
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
This is just too crazy for me. Has anyone else ever experienced a stock like this?????

XKEM
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
i think i'm gonna cry... [Big Grin] god my finger just won't touch the trigger because of the damn "what-if" and the financials will be out soon... damn it! haha
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
NOW WHAT!!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I was right in the middle of writing an email to Rufus when that news came out. Thats swinging a big stick Rufus!

Ok, so we recovered once today...can we do it again?
 
Posted by Fuzzy1018 on :
 
alot buying pressure imo we'll go up into green today
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
The more the shorts call on s t - lemon and others to bash this stock the more I realize how good this is going to be on the other end ... probably fly past 15.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
we need some backing more than that RUFUS but yesi will hold 12500 of your shares!!!f-k!!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
financials due out tomarrow, panic selling now makes no sense!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
The chart is really settin up for another shake..IMO..

If 084 doesn't hold...>70 is next stop...

Time to start prayen to the Diareah Gods for the RUN(s)
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Timmmmmmmmbberrrrrr !! This sold off big EOD yesterday, if it repeats today...watch out.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
This is just too crazy for me. Has anyone else ever experienced a stock like this?????

Unfortunately, yes. Read all about it here STTK and you will get a sense of deja vu. The thread that I am directing you to is one that was created just as the stock started hitting the record highs. Then you will see the affect that Stock lem on had on this stock.

Pay special attention to the PR shown below. Sound familiar??

quote:
posted April 05, 2006 12:46
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>CORTE MADERA, Calif., April 5, 2006 (PRIMEZONE) -- Smart-tek Solutions, Inc. ]
(OTCBB:STTK) and its subsidiary, Smart-tek Communications, Inc. announced today
that the Internet posting about the company on stock lem on .com is baseless,
untrue and inaccurate. The erroneous Internet posting is believed to be timed
in connection with short position holders and market manipulators.

The company has referred the matter to its attorneys and will vigorously seek
legal action against stock lemon .com.

About Smart-tek Solutions Inc.

yada yada yada CONTACT: Peter Nasca Associates, Inc.
Peter Nasca


 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Are Rufus and Ben going on to M N 1 at 3:30 today to talk to Dan Lewis and Andrew Coffey? Or is fidelity wrong?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
They were on yesterday.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
This is just too crazy for me. Has anyone else ever experienced a stock like this?????

XKEM
Haha XKEM was up %1900 in a couple of weeks? Come on man, give me a break. I was in XKEM, it didnt feel anything like this.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
from what I understand, *** has been bad mouthin the stock too....If Rufus goes on there today,it would be a real shocker to me...If he is goin on, the hosts of the program better get ready for an azz kicken..
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
When pr comes out on this it is very possible the rise will be very accentuated by the shorts trying to cover providing the weak hands are gone and those of us who are long don't sell!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Needs to get above 1.11 to straighten the chart out..IMO
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
This is just too crazy for me. Has anyone else ever experienced a stock like this?????

XKEM
Haha XKEM was up %1900 in a couple of weeks? Come on man, give me a break. I was in XKEM, it didnt feel anything like this.
Well I was refering to the roller coaster ride
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
This was the most deviously controlled and calculated Short attack I have ever witnessed and the finale is not here. The shorts are going after the Big prize, they want to take the $15 that we would have made and make it for themselves. They know damn well that after a reverse merger the price is set to reflect the "NEW" companies value. Why would it ever stay the same as it was when it was trading as the SHELL comany. Thats just stupid. They know that this ABSOLUTLEY will go to $15. They will short it immediately (if they can) and then the fear and manipulation that they have unleashed un us will cause the stock to crash back to the pennies. Then they will be the ones who made a 15 bagger.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I hope he does go on M N 1 again. And they hosts wont be ready, they never are. They have no idea what a "hick trucker" is capable of when he has some education. This is all just unbelievable.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
This was the most deviously controlled and calculated Short attack I have ever witnessed and the finale is not here. The shorts are going after the Big prize, they want to take the $15 that we would have made and make it for themselves. They know damn well that after a reverse merger the price is set to reflect the "NEW" companies value. Why would it ever stay the same as it was when it was trading as the SHELL comany. Thats just stupid. They know that this ABSOLUTLEY will go to $15. They will short it immediately (if they can) and then the fear and manipulation that they have unleashed un us will cause the stock to crash back to the pennies. Then they will be the ones who made a 15 bagger.

So, in other words, i want to get into short trading this stock? [Smile]
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
XKEM was not similar to this. XKEM's reasons for falling are different. STTK is the true similarity.

Jo
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
You can find many similarities and differences in many stocks, ask 10 traders, you'll get 10 answers.
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
This is going to $15 , it might crash from there but you will never get a chance to sell if you are shaken out now!!!!

Riding free shares and holding to the bitter end!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Batman, I sold my position too, but I don't feel the need to bash when I know that others are holding. Grow up, what did these people ever do to you to deserve you rubbing it in their faces?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
LONG......... Gotta ride this one!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Batman, I sold my position too, but I don't feel the need to bash when I know that others are holding. Grow up, what did these people ever do to you to deserve you rubbing it in their faces?

Hey !!!

What happened to all that "Faith" Doni??
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Batman, I sold my position too, but I don't feel the need to bash when I know that others are holding. Grow up, what did these people ever do to you to deserve you rubbing it in their faces?

what was a bash
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
M n 1 . com is now saying that the shorters are trying to drive the stock down now!

NO KIDDING!!!

That lemon site and another site...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Pretty Quick arent they!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I've seen the lemon site, and I'm still long people... [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
They are talking about how the shorts HAVE TO BE COVERED. HOLD people, IMHO!!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
A Personal Message to Readers of **********.Com and Investors of Storage Alliance, Inc. (SGAL) from Donald H. Rowe and The Wall Street Digest

On March 24, 2003, **********.com posted an "investigative report" on its Web site and released a statement to the financial media criticizing Storage Alliance, Inc. (SGAL). In this so-called "investigative report," **********.com also criticizes Donald Rowe for recommending the company's stock to subscribers of The Wall Street Digest.

On March 26, 2003, **********.com released Part Two of its "investigative report" to the investment community. Once again, Donald Rowe was highly criticized by the unidentified writer, who stated that he had called Mr. Rowe with questions regarding Storage Alliance, but had been "rushed off the phone" due to the imminent move of The Wall Street Digest's offices. (NOTE: After 14 years of publishing The Wall Street Digest from 2 North Tamiami Trail, Ste. 602, Sarasota, Florida, the publication's headquarters moved to 8830 South Tamiami Trail, Ste. 110, Sarasota, Florida. This move was pre-announced to subscribers of The Wall Street Digest for almost an entire month prior to the physical move on March 28-31, 2003.)

The "journalist," who called Donald Rowe during the move gave his name as "Mr. Rosen," but did not leave a phone number where he could be reached at a more convenient time. Nor did he identify himself or his "publication" when he called The Wall Street Digest's offices. He simply stated that he was a journalist who was "returning Don's call." Clearly, this was a deceptive, untrue statement.

Since posting his vitriolic commentary on his Web site and releasing his "press releases" to the investment community, this is what we have learned about Mr. Rosen, a.k.a. William Harris, a.k.a. William Smith.

#1: In a press release dated March 26, 2003, **********.com is identified as "an independent website that has been serving the microcap community since 1991." This is a highly suspect statement, since the vast majority of investors and the investment community at-large did not discover the Internet prior to 1994-1995. However, a Bill Harris did create the domain name, "**********.com" on August 1, 2001, ten years later than the year claimed in **********.com's press releases. After registering **********.com, Mr. Harris/Rosen/Smith then released his first "investigative report" on August 6, 2001, and posted it to his newly created Web site.

#2: The contact information that Bill Harris provided when he created **********.com on August 1, 2001, consists of two non-published phone numbers, a Hotmail e-mail address, and two conflicting street addresses in California-one of which does not appear to exist on any published map.

#3: In his inflammatory allegations concerning Donald Rowe's qualifications to analyze and recommend stocks, Mr. Harris/Rosen/Smith directs his readers to a 1999 "Bull and Bear" archival page where, in a reprint of a July 1999 report on Internet stocks and The Wall Street Digest's November 1999 issue featuring those same stocks, Mr. Rowe recommended several securities that were also recommended by the vast majority of momentum investment advisors in 1999. Those stock recommendations were: Qualcomm, MCI WorldCom, Excite At Home, Broadcom, Lucent Technologies, CMGI, Global Crossing, JDS Uniphase, Softbank, and Texas Instruments-all rising, profitable Nasdaq securities at the time.

Since Mr. Harris/Rosen/Smith claims to be an "investigative journalist," why did he find it necessary to direct his readers to a four-year-old article by Donald Rowe and his then-stock recommendations that were widely recommended by investment advisors in the years leading up to the Tech Wreck? Did Mr. Harris/Rosen/Smith even bother to find out that Donald Rowe released Sell recommendations on ALL of those stocks in accordance with his published Stop-Loss Rules? Quite frankly, we doubt it, since we suspect Mr. Harris/Rosen/Smith's reason for his "investigative report's" existence has nothing to do with honest journalism and everything to do with creating a highly profitable short-selling environment for his latest OTC victim, Storage Alliance, Inc.

#4: On his content-challenged Web site, Mr. Harris/Rosen/Smith has posted a legal disclaimer that all-but states the objective for writing scathing reports about OTC companies is to take short positions in those companies' stocks. The following excerpts are taken directly from **********.com's disclaimer page:

"By using this website you agree to the terms of this disclaimer. You agree that the use of **********.com is at your own risk. In no event should **********.com be liable for any direct or indirect trading losses caused by any information available on this site. ...**********.com makes no representations, and specifically disclaims all warranties, express, implied, or statutory, regarding the accuracy, timeliness, or completeness of any material contained in this site. ...**********.com does not guarantee in any way that it is providing all of the information that may be available. ..."

We find this final paragraph of **********.com's disclaimer most revealing (bold-face type is **********.com's):

"At any times [sic] the principles [sic] of **********.com might hold a position in any of the securities profiled on the site. **********.com will not report when a position is initiated or [sic] covered. Each investor must make that decision based on his/her judgment of the market."

Indeed, we believe this last paragraph reveals far more about the reason for **********.com's existence than the mere fact that it is a "free site" for disgruntled OTC investors. We believe the principal(s) of **********.com created the site for the sole purpose of finding OTC stocks that could be manipulated into short-position bonanzas for **********.com's owner(s). In fact, the site's "Your Lemon" page includes this suspected short-seller's invitation to "join our investigative team" and provide **********.com with additional stock manipulation leads.

#5: In a press release dated November 15, 2001, **********.com describes itself as "a free site that profiles companies on the OTC BB marketplace. The principles [sic] of **********.com often do have positions that are consistent with the report that is being presented. No employee of **********.com is a chartered financial analyst or [sic] a licensed investment advisor."

Even more so than in **********.com's posted legal disclaimer, we believe the above statement is an admission that the owner(s) of **********.com are shorting the stocks they are blasting in their so-called "investigative reports" on **********.com.

Most importantly, the owner(s) of **********.com (Mr. Harris/Rosen/Smith, et. al.) freely admit that they are neither chartered financial analysts nor licensed investment advisors. So who are they? They offer no clue on their Web site other than the most obvious: professional short-sellers who are looking for OTC companies to manipulate for their own profit.

#6: A careful review of the trading history of **********.com's targeted stocks between August 6, 2001, and March 28, 2003, indicates that in every situation except one, a short-position taken just prior to the release of a **********.com "investigative report," would have produced good-to-phenomenal profits for short-sellers of those OTC stocks. Coincidence? Perhaps, but why hasn't Mr. Harris/Rosen/Smith posted his true identity and/or qualifications for investment commentary on **********.com? Does he fear exposure as an active short-seller of OTC securities?

As revealed in #5 above, Mr. Harris/Rosen/Smith has freely admitted the following:

"The principles [sic] of **********.com often do have positions that are consistent with the report that is being presented."

We continue to believe that the principal(s) of **********.com, whoever they are, deliberately trash good companies for the purpose of generating short-term, short-selling trading profits.

The following are possible short-selling profits, based upon the timing of **********.com's articles targeted against OTC stocks:

TARGET
STOCK ARTICLE
DATE BEST DATES
FOR SHORTING SHORT
PROFIT HIGH TO
LOW PRICE
IJON 08/06/01 08/02/01 - 08/09/01 65% $9.20 - 3.21
XAIB 08/30/01 08/28/01 - 10/22/01 83% $5.90 - 1.00
MAAX 09/17/01 09/06/01 - 11/30/01 48% $3.55 - 1.83
ECTY 12/5&12/01 12/13/01 - 02/05/02 95% $5.80 - 0.31
HUMT 12/28/01 12/28/01 - 01/25/02 37% $1.33 - 0.84
TLON 01/17/02 01/11/02 - 02/06/02 93% $3.39 - 0.25
EUNI 03/26/02 03/19/02 - 04/04/02 38% $6.45 - 4.02
DUVT 04/24/02 04/23/02 - 06/04/02 75% $3.40 - 0.86
AVDI 05/02/02 04/30/02 - 06/27/02 73% $2.12 - 0.58
CTRX (#1) 07/29/02 07/23/02 - 07/30/02 50% $1.75 - 0.87
SBSF 08/02/02 07/30/02 - 08/22/02 31% $2.15 - 1.48
GMXX 08/23/02 08/23/02 - 08/26/02 21% $6.00 - 4.75
MXES 09/13/02 09/11/02 - 10/28/02 91% $2.80 - 0.25
LFSI 09/23/02 09/20/02 - 10/09/02 23% $4.03 - 3.10
HEB** 10/23/02 10/22/02 - 11/27/02 30% $2.86 - 1.99
CTRX (#2) 11/14/02 11/13/02 - 12/09/02 82% $2.28 - 0.40
RTNH 02/11/03 02/07/03 - 02/25/03 38% $2.87 - 1.78
ISTO 02/14/03 02/12/03 - 02/14/03 40% $1.81 - 1.08
EPXR 03/14/03 03/11/03 - 03/14/03 51% $3.50 - 1.70
MRPT 02/25/03 02/18/03 - 03/31/03 30% $4.00 - 2.80
SGAL 3/24&26/03 03/21/03 - 04/21/03 53% $1.91 - 0.90
AOGI 04/28/03 04/16/03 - 05/06/03 44% $1.58 - 0.88


Some short sales could have resulted in more profit if the shorted stock were held longer, e.g., AVDI's low in Sept. '02 was $0.17; ECTY's low in April '02 was $0.10; IJON's low in Oct. '02 was $0.51.

Unlike the majority of **********.com's targeted microcap stocks, which are listed on the Nasdaq's Bulletin Board, HEB is listed on the American Stock Exchange.

NOTE: Between August 6, 2001, and April 28, 2003, **********.com released 31 articles on 25 stocks. Of those 25 stocks, only one stock short would not have produced a profit: WRPT (10/14/02 article). Three stocks, JUNM (10/01/01 article), EYPSF (11/13/01, 11/15/01, 01/30/02 and 03/09/02 articles) and BTGS (11/19/01 article) are no longer listed, so results could not be confirmed.

#7: **********.com has no visible means of income. Many of the site's co-branded links are dead and the working links are, most likely, posted on the site to lend it a certain amount of credibility. However, those links are available for free to almost any investment, financial, or consumer-targeted site that is willing to post them. So, how does **********.com make money for its principal(s)? We suspect that we have already answered that question in #3, #4, #5 and, most certainly, in #6 above.

Allowing Mr. Harris/Rosen/Smith the benefit of doubt, perhaps **********.com makes a small profit by selling and/or renting its database of contacts. There is no "Privacy Statement" posted on the site and complete name, street address, and e-mail address is required when registering at **********.com. Apparently, **********.com conceals the identity of its owner(s), yet guarantees its registered visitors no privacy whatsoever. And, as most members of the online community are aware, a corporate privacy policy has been standard procedure on legitimate Web sites since well before August 1, 2001.

As for The Wall Street Digest's current position on Storage Alliance, Inc. (SGAL), we issued the following Special Investment Alert to our subscribers on Friday, March 28, 2003 (in its entirety):

"This is a Wall Street Digest Special Investment Alert for Friday, March 28, 2003, at 6:00 p.m. EST.

War worries continue to plague the market. At the close of today's session, the Dow was down 55 points and the Nasdaq was down 14 points.

One hour into Monday's session, SELL the following two stocks:

OmniVision Technologies (OVTI). The stock tripped our stop-loss today, dropping 8.9% on approximately 2.65 times its average daily volume. Subscribers who purchased the stock when we first recommended it will realize an approximate 23% gain.

Storage Alliance (SGAL). The stock is now 35.9% below its $1.95 high on March 24, 2003. We believe that Storage Alliance has been victimized by irresponsible statements from a professional short-seller who uses his Web site to create a highly profitable short-selling environment. Protect your profits for now and we will advise you when to repurchase the stock.

The offices of The Wall Street Digest are relocating from One Sarasota Tower, Suite 602, Sarasota, FL 34236 to 8830 South Tamiami Trail, Suite 110, Sarasota, FL 34238-3130. Our telephone numbers will remain the same: 941-954-5500 and 800-785-5050. Our offices will be closed on Monday, March 31 and we will reopen for business on Tuesday, April 1, 2003.

The next Hotline Update will be on Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 6:00 p.m. EST."

In the past, we also have issued the following statement in regards to any alleged association with Storage Alliance:

"...Mr. and Mrs. Rowe do not own shares of Storage Alliance (SGAL) -- nor will they -- until all of The Wall Street Digest's subscribers have had an opportunity to purchase the stock. Further, employees of The Wall Street Digest and/or its affiliated companies are not permitted to 'front run' any stocks recommended in The Wall Street Digest. Employees of our third-party vendors and associates, such as printers, mailing firms, Internet vendors, marketing associates, etc., are also prohibited from purchasing stocks before our own Wall Street Digest subscribers have been made aware of Mr. Rowe's recommendations. Mr. Rowe has enforced these ethical principles since he founded The Wall Street Digest 26 years ago in 1977."

Furthermore, Storage Alliance has not issued shares of stock, warrants, nor options for shares to Donald H. Rowe. In accordance with SEC regulations, Mr. and/or Mrs. Rowe, The Wall Street Digest, and/or its associates have not received any compensation whatsoever from Storage Alliance, Inc.

For further investment research and/or investor education information, The Wall Street Digest maintains an Investment Research page on its Web site at http://www.****************.com/links.php We encourage all investors to obtain current SEC Filings from the EDGAR database that is available from our site.

For additional information regarding Storage Alliance, Inc., please contact the company directly at its corporate headquarters: 725, 435 – 4th Avenue, S.W., Calgary, Alberta, Canada, T2P3A8; (403) 264-2500; www.storagealliance.com


Copyright © 2003 The Wall Street Digest, Inc.

http://www.****************.com/specialstock/specialstocklogin.html
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
I just can't believe what people are allowed to get away with. Everyone likes to say that the boards have hardly any effect on the stock?? Yeah right. Go check the IHUB posts. This baby crashed because Lemon posted his BS site there. I got out as fast as I could but still had to give up thousands in profit from today alone. I seriously think that the SEC should investigate lemon. If he caused this stock to crash and then profited on it, he should go to jail.


quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Batman, I sold my position too, but I don't feel the need to bash when I know that others are holding. Grow up, what did these people ever do to you to deserve you rubbing it in their faces?

Hey !!!

What happened to all that "Faith" Doni??


 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I'm not goin any place...

Had a feelin it was gunna do this anyways..
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I agree! AMEN...
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Doniboy, I wasn't bashing. This thread isn't just for positive posts only. If a stock has a huge run and then starts to go down, especialy 35% in one day, most likely it will continue to go down. Why mislead like many did in XKEM.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Wallymac, what the heck is that supposed to be? Brief summary please [Wink]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I was wondering just how long of a week this was going to be! ha ~

Let's keep our heads [Smile]

That $15 awaits IMHO
GLTA
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
OK Batman. I guess I just don't like it when people scream TIMBERRRRRRR, as others are losing their shirts.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Back in the $1 range!!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
There we GO!!! Great M N 1 caller!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
What did he say???
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
OK Batman. I guess I just don't like it when people scream TIMBERRRRRRR, as others are losing their shirts.

LoL, won't happen again. I hope everybody gets their shirts back plus an extra 10 shirts.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Now they are pumping on M N 1...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
He just spoke the truth explained Rufas's point better that Rufus did. Not to mention he was on a good land line and he did not break up at all.
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
Doniboy, I wasn't bashing. This thread isn't just for positive posts only. If a stock has a huge run and then starts to go down, especialy 35% in one day, most likely it will continue to go down. Why mislead like many did in XKEM.

This thing has been going up and down like this since last week.
Tomorrow, within 15 minutes, it will be up .20 or .30
Then it will go back down again. Unless the PR comes out and is good I guess.
But if we find out Rufus still hangs his clothes on a line in the backyard, We're in trouble !!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Well hell yes they are.... Ole' Rufus is threatening leagle action..
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
has the entire show turned into FHAL talk?
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
They must have covered and are looking for the next high to re-short IMO.

It is mad what people get away with. There should be some dirt bags waking up with horse heads in their beds.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
Batman, I have to disagree with ur comment above. Just because a stock goes down 35% doesnt mean it will keep gng down.
Hence yesterday EOD and high of today. Person coulda made nice change.
A person could buy again at low today, and who knows, could make 50% on that investment by tmrw?

lets not forget the big day coming that many dont believe too.

Also a good example is look at PAIM, person coulda made lots by flipping over past few days, including today if u got in at low price.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Hanging onto EVERY stinking share I have!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Man the chart is formin one hell of a pennant now...It should breakout one way or the other in the next 30 minutes..IMO
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I can't even find an "our- street .com" Anyone have a link?

Jo
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
heck batman, even WWEN went from .385 to .22 today, and you can bet they aren't selling off...

But what's happening here is a CRIME! Shorters in charge of this, I hope they get theirs...
 
Posted by Rex A Million on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Wallymac, what the heck is that supposed to be? Brief summary please [Wink]

as soon as i heard that de lemon was on this i cashed out my remaining position -- not because i don't think fhal won't see $15 or better but because i've seen what they can do to a stock.

doniboy the post by wallymac is trying to discredit de lemon since they claim to have been serving the otc community since 2001 and the internet has only been around since 1994-1995 and a how the owner doesn't have any personal information publish and that his disclaimer says they don't tell its readers when they take a position or when they cover. honestly the internet thing is bs imho -- so llbean.com is a scam since they've been selling stuff to the public prior to 1994-1995 lmao!

if de lemon is shorting this stock he's not too smart expecially if rufus is going to use loop holes to set his one price of $15. if i was a big shorter i'd wait for the $15 price then short the hell out of the stock -- wouldn't you? maybe de lemon doesn't want to be too greedy here?

i've made my money thank you fhal, rufus and company! this is getting too crazy for me -- reminding me of cmkx with the division between the longs and shorts. glta!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Before all of this i really never understood the idea of shorters. The more i learn, the more it sickens me. Its one thing to capitalize off of someones losses but to think that people like Lemon are actually manipulating it into what they want?!! I hope Rufus was serious about the legal action and i hope he doesnt back down. So many people may have just bailed out of something that might have changed their lives.

This is all just my opinion of course, i have no idea whats going on.
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
stocklemo n.com, a domain name owned by Bill Harris of 8033 Sunset Blvd., Hollywood, Calif. 213-596-5761
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I'll double that cat.... No one knows for sure, but I smell a short rat!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Fill in the stars please
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Wallymac, what the heck is that supposed to be? Brief summary please [Wink]

It's a rebuttal to Stock Lemon regarding the Wall Street Digest. They are showing that Stock Lemon has less than reputable motives. IE: Shorting. Etc.

Just trying to show that Lemon is not right and even admits he does not post the whole truth.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
I'll double that cat.... No one knows for sure, but I smell a short rat!

Easy on the rat jokes
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Threads like this one are why I don't ever turn on the soap operas during the day. Nothing could beat this. Never a dull moment here.

I think we could see a bit of a recovery here as panic sellers ponder getting back in (I being one of those!) pre-merger.

Jo
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
still pis sed here ,,,!!!wtf craszyshiat!!!double
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Ha ha ~ Sorry Rat! Nothing personal [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Thanks Rex and Wallymac. Stock Lemon should be thrown in jail.


Jo, you did recover from your early year losses though right?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
m n 1 dude says he's thinking of buying now at .99 a rs hole
 
Posted by Rex A Million on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
.... Its one thing to capitalize ... but to think that people like Lemon are actually manipulating it into what they want?!! I hope Rufus was serious about the legal action and i hope he doesnt back down. ....

catiaengineer manipulation is all around use from de lemon to group runners targeting low float shells and using de boards to play on emotion -- its everywhere!

legal action against de lemon? homework says fhal won't win -- each company from ypnet / sttk / hom / ghlt and others tried to only drop thier case. de lemon is connected has info most don't bother looking for and rarely if ever bets on something that's not a sure thing imho.

at a minimum send you information into rufus to be part of this suit -- especially if your first and only purchase of fhal was $1.50 or better.
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
Can someone post what this lemon guy wrote?
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
Can someone post what this lemon guy wrote?

Call and ask him:
**********.com, a domain name owned by Bill Harris of 8033 Sunset Blvd., Hollywood, Calif.Mr. Harris at 213-596-5761
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
doniboy wrote:
quote:
Jo, you did recover from your early year losses though right?
Nope, not yet. But I'm getting really close, although I've had some setbacks today.

When I go into the green, I will change my siggy line. (and Par-tay!)

Jo
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
It's not too hard to spot the shorters .. is it?
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I've been gone all day. Looks like Rufus got PO'd, made an announcement and there was panic selling again. Did I miss anything else? I am thinking about buying more right now to average down but want to make sure I don't see anything else I missed reading back through so many pages.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rex A Million:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
.... Its one thing to capitalize ... but to think that people like Lemon are actually manipulating it into what they want?!! I hope Rufus was serious about the legal action and i hope he doesnt back down. ....

catiaengineer manipulation is all around use from de lemon to group runners targeting low float shells and using de boards to play on emotion -- its everywhere!

legal action against de lemon? homework says fhal won't win -- each company from ypnet / sttk / hom / ghlt and others tried to only drop thier case. de lemon is connected has info most don't bother looking for and rarely if ever bets on something that's not a sure thing imho.

at a minimum send you information into rufus to be part of this suit -- especially if your first and only purchase of fhal was $1.50 or better.

Naw, my first and only purchase was at .082. Thanks for the insight but if what people are saying is true, "de lemon" belongs in "de jail cell".
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
that stock lemon stuff is kinda rediculous...he really did leave off a bunch of stuff...
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Any of you chart readers predict an eod run or tomorrow am recovery like we saw today?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
If I was the Rufas Man, I would be findin me a long haired book readen SOB to put togeather a Factual PR...Loaded with enough good chit to ramm this stock up there Short coverin asses!!!


FORCE THE SQUEEZ!!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I'm holding [Smile] -but I have to go eat ha ha ~ Eyes have been glued to the screen! ha~

I think everything is fine, go FHAL!
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Whats the L2's look like?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
.94 x .96
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Unfortunately it has been a boo hoo day for me in my stocks but hopefully thursday will be better. It usually is...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Sorry all, computer took a dump along with my stocks. I'm still holdin. Bring it on!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
yes MAUMEE i like that!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
charts!! EOD'S something for us???
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey, the day isn't over yet, I still think we finish green. News tomorrow, no worries, do what you have to do.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Support EOD around .84
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Hope your wrong maumee - I just bought in more at .97
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I think it will close at these levels today....The smell of a PR is in the air...They may take it down to 70 tomorrow with out news
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
I just bought more at .98............ thats it calling rufus...
 
Posted by romberry on :
 
I suggest people read the PDF copies of the court filings that were posted.

http://www.our-street.com/fhal/broadband%20case.pdf

http://www.our-street.com/fhal/broadband%20case2.pdf


And the Bloomberg article on the bogus Venezuelan bonds. (Note the dollar amount and the interest rate.)

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000086&sid=aRMUu1h1OBuc&refer=latin_a merica


Then look at the "audited" financials posted at CVSU:

http://www.waatle.com/1095244.html

Which firm was the auditor? Where did Rufus come up with 500 million dollars (half a BILLION bucks) between January and March to buy these high yield "dollar denominated" Venezuelan bonds?

If you read the broadband court filings, you'll note that "bonds" that turned out to be worthless were part of the scam that got Rufus and hit motely crew sued before.

See Edgar:

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/12388/000107704805000489/bban-63005_10qsb .htm

How is it that a firm with "audited financials" (but apparently no auditor to sign them) showing more than 800 million in "assets" only shows 9 grand in the bank? And ya know, if you want to see what real auditied financials look like, why not pull up info on another penny stock like Salon Media Group (SALN), a company worth far, far less than Rufus claims CVSU/FHAL is worth and compare them to the joke posted at the CVSU.US web site. And again, why does a company that supposedly has close to a billion dollars in assets not have an actual office? And why the heck is the CEO wasting his time taking dozens of calls on his cell phone from penny stock investors he doesn't know from Adam's housecat? Doesn't a man sitting on 800 million dollars have more productive things to do with his time?

A lot of what passes for "due diligance" here is a complete and utter joke. A great many participants on these boards don't even have the first iota of understanding about the basics of securities. They talk about "sort of IPO's" and about a company that will somehow be able to magically "set" a stock price after a merger. (Only the market sets the stock price after an IPO and this ain't no IPO.)

Like I posted last night, I don't have a dog in this hunt one way or the other. I just can't stand to see so many people delude themselves once dollar signs get in their eyes.

If you are in this stock at a profit, take your profits, get out and count your blessings. If you bought in late and are seeing losses, cut them soon. In two weeks, this issue will be right back where it was 6 months ago. Don't ride it all the way down like a fool.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Hey, the day isn't over yet, I still think we finish green. News tomorrow, no worries, do what you have to do.

Everytime there is news the pps tanks. I am soo looking forward to the day we have news and the pps spikes. Hope tomorrow is that day.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
my opinion is major run to close,,,then major pr after hours!!///???anyone else
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey greenday, alot of stocks lately have been tankin on news, i am with you, right now i think you gotta get out before the news, hope it change back around soon
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
my opinion is major run to close,,,then major pr after hours!!///???anyone else

That would be cool, Just don't see it happening
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
romberry writes:


"A lot of what passes for "due diligance" here is a complete and utter joke"


I beg to differ - everything you posted has been discussed. I suggest you go back to page 1 and start there before making ignorant comments like you did.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
maybe i'll take that back!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
except for the PR!
 
Posted by Bland on :
 
Follow Up - Fronthaul Fades during M N 1 Interview
Posted on Wednesday, July 26 * 13:48:54 CDT


By Trevor Burgess

DALLAS (July 26, 2006)-- In a very long afternoon interview with the Market News First radio team, Fronthaul Group CEO Rufus Paul Harris, gave details of a recent merger with Conversion Solutions. As the interview went on and confusion set in among shareholders, the stock began to trade down sharply towards the closing bell.

Harrison began the interview by discussing in detail what the new company’s main services will be. He said Conversion Solutions’ (CVSU) main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15 million to 100 million asset finance market. This will enable businesses to compete more efficiently and improve operations while increasing value.

Under the new merger agreement, the company has decided to set an average closing price at $15 and pay no additional consideration to any of the shareholders. Meaning that after all the paperwork has gone through; Harris expects that to be between July 28 and Aug 1 2006, the share will open at $15 per share.

This merger agreement is a one for one ratio, meaning each shareholder of Conversion Solutions will receive a share of Fronthaul.

“We have set a 15 dollar price which will be equal to our market cap,” Harris explained. “If each share of FHAL has not exceeded $15 by the time of the S4 filing what were going to do is halt trading and re-list under a new symbol, you will exchange Fronthaul into CVSU. We are going to allow 90 to 120 days in the market for the exchange and that new stock price will be $15.”

In other words, if you are willing to do the share exchange and go 90 to 120 days out of the market place you should have a $15 stock. This is where the confusion among shareholders began, and the phone lines at *** lit up.

After the announcement of the possible 90 day delay shareholders called in noticing that the stock had gone from $1.50 to $1 within a 15 minute span, and Harris quickly tried to set the record straight noticing that no shareholder wants to wait for their stock.

“It should be a smooth shift and you should be able to take care of it through the DTC system electronically,” Harris said.

He went on to explain that if the transfer agent gets hit with 300 million in shares there isn’t much they can do, delays will be inevitable.

As the interview wore on, more confusion set in about this merger because most of the company’s assets are in one singular Venezuelan bond equaling nearly one half billion dollars. Most shareholders tend to value things in a company such as diversification and risk management.

“One thing people have to understand is that our entire reputation is on the line here, and we know what we’re doing,” Harris boldly commented. “If we had a long history and we were from one of the big boys that was putting this together, you wouldn’t be asking any type of questions.

“There is too much fraud in today’s society and with the penny stocks and pink sheet stocks it’s impossible to find something real,” he added.

Stockholders, however, were looking for factual information other than the CEO telling them to “just trust us.” Callers were also aware that neither person had shared a NASDAQ company, as they are trying to do now.

One caller mentioned that there were message boards urging people not to trust this company, that it is a scam. Harris acknowledged there wasn’t much they could do about the gossip circulating the web.

“That’s their prerogative, free speech you know,” Harris commented. “I have no concern if CNBC came out and questioned it.”

Perhaps the most bizarre call took place toward the end of the interview as a lady called in to make sure Harris remembered his personal promise to her. Harris quickly remembered the caller and said he stood by his word saying he has personally guaranteed her funds if anything goes wrong.

“I will still honor that any day,” Harris said. “Have your attorney sign something and give it to me.”

The caller went on to wonder if she could sell her stock immediately after it went to $15 per share once the market re-opened. Once again Harris quickly answered to the callers liking.

Johnny Red, *** analyst, quickly fired back at Harris stating that a stock is only worth $15 dollars if someone will buy it for that price, and that it is a free market with no restrictions on it.

Harris then said that if the market drives the stock down the company will buy back shares to raise it again.

“We have set contracts through certain institutions to execute it upon notification,” Harris answered.

Harris concluded by telling investors to not worry about the market right now, reassuring that it will readjust after the merger goes through.

“You have made my day, and my life,” one caller concluded.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
it's my fault sygy, whenever i buy anything, the price falls. I bought in the 1.50 it fell to the 1.30 so I bought in the 1.30's and look where it is now, so I buy at .97.... I was thinking about changing my name from greenday to red-day or grimm-reaper
 
Posted by Batman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
it's my fault sygy, whenever i buy anything, the price falls. I bought in the 1.50 it fell to the 1.30 so I bought in the 1.30's and look where it is now, so I buy at .97.... I was thinking about changing my name from greenday to red-day or grimm-reaper

[Eek!]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
NO IT'S ALL the du m b a s s e s especially today with that release!!im taprd out with 12500 shares over 1.19
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I love it baby. Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love FHAL tomorrow it's only a day away. HA
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hey romberry... just about the "no official office"... so your saying any company without it's own building is crap? pretty sure there are many buisnesses in the world that share offices. cvsu is a holding company (from what i understand)... why doesn't that make sense? i just took a position with a company called "Datapath." they have an office in Atlanta... that is where i went for the interview. They labeled it as "headquarters" but they opened another in tampa. they share a building with different companies and they have over 300+ million in contracts this year. they made the largest jump in the top 100 for companies (i believe) and verizon was next behind them... They don't have the believed "assets" that cvsu has but none the less, it still shares a building... www.datapath.com that is their website.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
OK!!! Broke the chart pattern to the bullish side....Hope she holds in the a.m.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Your site sucks Bland.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
58650 share buy * 1.02
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Batman, does that mean you agree that I should change my name?

Glad to see us back over a buck. [Smile]
 
Posted by Rex A Million on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Batman:
Can someone post what this lemon guy wrote?

batman not sure what the deal is with all the **** is but lets see if this works?

de lemon's fhal report
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
bland... i'd just like to say... you guys at M N 1 are some of the ****tiest interviewers ever... i don't think i speak for myself...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
This whole drop was orchestrated by ARCA. Anyone else with L2's notice that. Same as yesterday. Have a good night. I don't think I'll be on tonight. Sick of hearing all the B.S
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
bland... i'd just like to say... you guys at M N 1 are some of the ****tiest interviewers ever... i don't think i speak for myself...

No, youre not only speaking for yourself there
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
bland... i'd just like to say... you guys at M N 1 are some of the ****tiest interviewers ever... i don't think i speak for myself...

Cartman voice....

"I hate you guys"
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
bland... i'd just like to say... you guys at M N 1 are some of the ****tiest interviewers ever... i don't think i speak for myself...

Cartman voice....

"I hate you guys"

more like "I...HATE...YOU...GUYS...SO...*UCKING MUCH...EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"

thats what cartman would say anyway...
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
doniboy, you got an aspirin? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Gotta love losing 5K in two days... at least I bought WWEN at a nice price to offset my losses here.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
Gotta love losing 5K in two days... at least I bought WWEN at a nice price to offset my losses here.

Yea, its kinda hard not to think "What could i have done with thousands in profit?"

Tough one
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
I LOST 10 GRAND 2 DAY'S, OUCH.......... NOW I DON'T WANT TO SELL...........
 
Posted by stocknut2007 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
Gotta love losing 5K in two days... at least I bought WWEN at a nice price to offset my losses here.

why do you say you have a loss when this is supposed to go up to 15$ ?
 
Posted by stocknut2007 on :
 
well this is pretty confusing...the way it sounded from the interview , is that people should get 15$/share after the merger, if the price drops they've got institutions in place to keep the price up....no ? soooo ...
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocknut2007:
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
Gotta love losing 5K in two days... at least I bought WWEN at a nice price to offset my losses here.

why do you say you have a loss when this is supposed to go up to 15$ ?
Well... I haven't lost anything yet, being that I haven't SOLD anything yet. But the numbers are not nice at the moment...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocknut2007:
well this is pretty confusing...the way it sounded from the interview , is that people should get 15$/share after the merger, if the price drops they've got institutions in place to keep the price up....no ? soooo ...

Yup, thats what we are all banking on. It doesnt make it any easier to watch it fall! [Smile]
 
Posted by stocknut2007 on :
 
well i'm new to this stock, was hearing all the buzz and decided to come take a look. I just re-read the interview again....this is nuts!!! he's practically saying that anybody that buys now, will get 15$....how can someone lose with that ? why isn't everybody jumping in with all they got ?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Where oh where is my little 10K... where oh where can it be?

He can file a 10K any time till 6PM at night right? I think that is the last opportunity. Oh well, I can only wish it is that close at hand. Hoping for a 10K ASAP.
 
Posted by Fonzy35 on :
 
Possible stock Halt coming soon, By Mr. Ben Stanley said on trader corner,I hope they realase the 10 Q at lease 30 minutes before halt
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stocknut2007:
well i'm new to this stock, was hearing all the buzz and decided to come take a look. I just re-read the interview again....this is nuts!!! he's practically saying that anybody that buys now, will get 15$....how can someone lose with that ? why isn't everybody jumping in with all they got ?

Because it sounds just that "nuts".

I know when I hear multiple very experienced traders say? "Really? I have not never heard of that happening before." That it is a very unique and speculative situation.

For the record though, after further review of the situation. I have not heard even one of those traders say that this is not possible, and that they were going to put some bucks into the stock just in case. Most of the confusion seems to be the rules surrounding a reverse merger aquisition and a reorganization.

I got a vice grip on my slips. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
"Most of the confusion seems to be the rules surrounding a reverse merger aquisition and a reorganization."

Not from my perspective: I believe the "new-one-on-us" is the 386 dealie, "nontaxable" wrinkle.
 
Posted by reidler88 on :
 
sorry guys,,
just freed up some funds,,
can someone summarize for me
why this went up today then dropped down,,
and when is the merger suppose to take place??

thnx to anyone who saves me DD,,,
sorry im on business trip in washington DC,,,
no internet in my room,its down, so im in one of those crappy little rooms with comps,,,
 
Posted by Claydough on :
 
I was pissed yesterday about the big drop for nothing. I was excited again this morning to see it rise again, only to drop. All I can say, is that this is gambling. If you can't take the heat, then get out of the kitchen. I was lucky to get in early enough to just be losing profits and not capital. I believe we will get a $15 opening price as CVSU, and when that happens we will all be a happy family again. At these prices the risk reward factor cannot be beat.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Reidler...The stock went up today because of people getting back in from yesterdays panic sale. The stock went down because of flagrant bashing on some stock sites. The MM's seem to be leading the band here.

The merger is a done deal. The symbol change is supposed to take place between the 28th and 1st (that's July and August).
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
damn mm's .. it's sooooo freaking ridiculous..
 
Posted by stocknut2007 on :
 
i still can't believe it. how can a stock go from 1$ and open at 15$ ...i mean, what if everybody clicks on sell, the price is gonna drop like a rock...no? but in the interview he said that institutions are in place to buy up the shares if it drops. We're gonna need one hell of a buying pressure to keep it up there!!! Another thing...so we stay FHAL, and if the price doesn't reach 15$, we halt, change tickers, and open again at 15$ ? are there gonna be any restrictions on the shares ? a certain amount of time we have to wait before trading them ? ...man this sounds too good to be true..wow!
 
Posted by reidler88 on :
 
is their any kind of ties that go along with the merger,,
once it merges its just a symbol change and the pps goes up to 15.00??
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
I dumped my 5k shares * 1.36 and bought another 26k shares of WWEN. I figure 5000 shares * 15.00 is 75 grand and having now 37000 shares of the other, all I need is 2 dollars a share to get the same result.

I just felt the 2 dollars was easier to attain and sustain than a 15 dollar one.
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
I guess I am just as confused as everyone else but I was looking to get some clarification on one thing that is still in my mind.

I understand that CVSU shareholders will have to wait 90-120 days before they can trade right? Does this also apply to us FHAL holders?

I have gone back and read almost 60 pages today trying to find some sort of answer but I am just getting more confused. Any help would be appreciated......
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
As soon as your broker converts the FHAL into CVSU, you will be able to buy/sell.

Call your broker to see for sure.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nu2This:
I guess I am just as confused as everyone else but I was looking to get some clarification on one thing that is still in my mind.

I understand that CVSU shareholders will have to wait 90-120 days before they can trade right? Does this also apply to us FHAL holders?

I have gone back and read almost 60 pages today trying to find some sort of answer but I am just getting more confused. Any help would be appreciated......

1) where/what source for this?

2) if true, what's the effect? Are you or anybody that trades a CVSU shareholder?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
the 90 day wait *mistake* is what triggered yesterdays crash...
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by Nu2This:
I guess I am just as confused as everyone else but I was looking to get some clarification on one thing that is still in my mind.

I understand that CVSU shareholders will have to wait 90-120 days before they can trade right? Does this also apply to us FHAL holders?

I have gone back and read almost 60 pages today trying to find some sort of answer but I am just getting more confused. Any help would be appreciated......

1) where/what source for this?

2) if true, what's the effect? Are you or anybody that trades a CVSU shareholder?

I have no source, I was asking because I didn't know and that was the take that I got from reading the msg board. As for trading CVSU shares, not currently.
 
Posted by Nu2This on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
the 90 day wait *mistake* is what triggered yesterdays crash...

I understand completly understand that, I had the unfortunate luck of watching the stock plummet.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
-Just got home, did you guys see this?...
=============================================
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris
In reply to: Our-Street who wrote msg# 15847 Date:7/26/2006 5:10:54 PM
Post #of 15866

We will see about that;


Gorski Gregor, and Timoty Miles

Your Recent Activities have been reported to the Supreme State Prosecutor’s Office of the Republic of Slovenia, and to the President of The Chamber of Commerce and Industry of Slovenia, Jozko Cuk.

We will be going after SLOVENIAN SERVICES, the only real asset you are associated with.

We will be suing; sorry I meant seeing you soon, GODSPEED and Thank you for this opportunity.

Rufus Paul Harris
Chairman & CEO
Conversion Solutions, Inc.
(OTC BB: FHAL)
125 TownPark Dr. Suite 300
Kennesaw, Georgia 30144
Office: 770-420-8270
Cell: 678-255-7650
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
From IHUB:

More info on "our street" and "stock lemon" and thier scamming ways, hey jj maybe you should post the links to these articles on the board. We are being attacked by naked short sellers, (if it wasn't obvious, lol)


http://www.investors.com/breakingnews.asp?journalid=22312898&brk=1

Stock lemon:

http://www.wallstreet digest.com/specialstock/specialstocklogin.html

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_pwwi/is_200504/ai_n13601483

http://www.yp.com/press_release.php?releaseid=2004010901
 
Posted by DDA on :
 
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris
In reply to: Our-Street who wrote msg# 15899
Date:7/26/2006 5:29:26 PM
Post #of 16164

Sir or Madam;

The damage that you have caused to the selling shareholders is my only concern.

If you are the DD expert that you claimed to be, then you would know the facts and you would have not posted false and misleading statements.

Look over your shoulder there, I wish the best for you, but I know how when the political arm slams small time con-artist like yourself in Third World countries; it is swift and usually with un-fair justice.

Remember; the golden rule of all investing, DO your Due Diligence. LOL

GODSPEED, hang in there shareholders, I told you, this was going to be a ride and look for the 10-KSB.

Rufus Paul Harris
Chairman & CEO
Conversion Solutions, Inc.
(OTC BB: FHAL)
125 TownPark Dr. Suite 300
Kennesaw, Georgia 30144
Office: 770-420-8270
Cell: 678-255-7650
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Nice work Peaser/DDA ~
 
Posted by DDA on :
 
Scam or not - Rufus is kicking azzzzzz.... And I must say .... I like the style
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DDA:
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris
In reply to: Our-Street who wrote msg# 15899
Date:7/26/2006 5:29:26 PM
Post #of 16164

Sir or Madam;

The damage that you have caused to the selling shareholders is my only concern.

If you are the DD expert that you claimed to be, then you would know the facts and you would have not posted false and misleading statements.

Look over your shoulder there, I wish the best for you, but I know how when the political arm slams small time con-artist like yourself in Third World countries; it is swift and usually with un-fair justice.

Remember; the golden rule of all investing, DO your Due Diligence. LOL

GODSPEED, hang in there shareholders, I told you, this was going to be a ride and look for the 10-KSB.

Rufus Paul Harris
Chairman & CEO
Conversion Solutions, Inc.
(OTC BB: FHAL)
125 TownPark Dr. Suite 300
Kennesaw, Georgia 30144
Office: 770-420-8270
Cell: 678-255-7650

You're right, he is a hick.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
From IHUB:

More info on "our street" and "stock lemon" and thier scamming ways, hey jj maybe you should post the links to these articles on the board. We are being attacked by naked short sellers, (if it wasn't obvious, lol)


http://www.investors.com/breakingnews.asp?journalid=22312898&brk=1

Stock lemon:

http://www.wallstreet digest.com/specialstock/specialstocklogin.html

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_pwwi/is_200504/ai_n13601483

http://www.yp.com/press_release.php?releaseid=2004010901

Wow, so far im just at the surface of those links but...wow. How did i get mixed up in this? I was just trying to make a few bucks. Wow. [Smile]
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris
In reply to: Our-Street who wrote msg# 15899
Date:7/26/2006 5:29:26 PM
Post #of 16164

Sir or Madam;

The damage that you have caused to the selling shareholders is my only concern.

If you are the DD expert that you claimed to be, then you would know the facts and you would have not posted false and misleading statements.

Look over your shoulder there, I wish the best for you, but I know how when the political arm slams small time con-artist like yourself in Third World countries; it is swift and usually with un-fair justice.

Remember; the golden rule of all investing, DO your Due Diligence. LOL

GODSPEED, hang in there shareholders, I told you, this was going to be a ride and look for the 10-KSB.

Rufus Paul Harris
Chairman & CEO
Conversion Solutions, Inc.
(OTC BB: FHAL)
125 TownPark Dr. Suite 300
Kennesaw, Georgia 30144
Office: 770-420-8270
Cell: 678-255-7650
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Wow, for once we REALLY have those short SOB's over a barrel! LOL! -JERKS!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Ya know, one thing that really keeps my attention is the cut and paste below. You would think that if CVSU didnt have the cashflow and brains to go through with the things they talk about then wouldnt we have heard something by now about AISS being let down? This was almost a year ago.

Conversion Solutions, Inc. and Georgia Aerospace Systems Announces Formation of New Corporation

KENNESAW, Ga., Aug. 31 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. and Georgia Aerospace Systems (GAS), announces that the companies have entered into an agreement to form a new company called American International Smart Structures, Inc. (AISS, a Georgia Corporation).

"The formation of American International Smart Structures is just a sample of the vision of management from Georgia Aerospace and CVSU and we are very pleased to be participating. The contributed defense contract by Georgia Aerospace to AISS will ensure the profitability and success of this venture," stated Rufus Paul Harris, CEO, CVSU.

Ben Stanley, COO, CVSU stated, "This Venture is only the first of many that we are currently reviewing that will greatly enhance our shareholders value, help stimulate the economy by providing jobs to Americans and provide advanced security to America."

"Georgia Aerospace is excited about the 40% equity position of Conversion Solutions in this venture. The great leadership at Conversion will bring excellent financial credentials with their Wall Street knowledge and exposure to the new entity AISS," stated Dr. Thomas Mensah, inventor, CEO and Founder of Georgia Aerospace Systems.

"The investment dollars that this equity brings will allow AISS to grow organically as well as through acquisitions to help us explore tremendous opportunities in advanced composite structures for aircraft and marine applications as well as homeland security. The infusion of capital will allow us to execute our business plan flawlessly." Dr. Mensah continued, "In addition to the traditional areas as detailed in our business, we will be looking to expand into novel areas like advanced Nanotube composite structure manufacturing. The company will be providing contracted engineering services to the Department of Defense as well as embedded sensors for Homeland Security."

"The Pentagon is implementing Network Centric Operations (NCO) which involves linking all means of command, control, communications, computers, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance. Georgia Aerospace Systems and American International Smart Structures are postured to become a major technology provider in Network Centric Operations with products like embedded sensors. The technology will be compatible with the Global Information Grid to provide real time information to the war fighter," stated Major General John Phillips, head of Defense markets for Georgia Aerospace Systems
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
for anyone who wants information about the Lemon a$$hole who tanked your investment to "protect" you. read the following article.
http://www.investors.com/breakingnews.asp?journalid=22312898&brk=

Our-Street.com, whose bizarre proprietor Timothy Miles had masqueraded for months as "Nick Tracy" to avoid public disclosure that he has himself been charged by the SEC for securities fraud, before being unmasked in a Financial Wire exclusive, has "gone on the attack" against dozens of companies, including Circle Group Holdings (CXN) and H-Quotient (HQNT).

Timothy Miles...a former broker and self-professed failed public company executive, who also operates websites devoted to art auctioning and a mysterious otherworld crystal his site says has revealed to religious leaders around the world "the meaning of life."

...has been accused by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission as a fraudulent pumper-and-dumper...

Miles also acknowledged he has operated under the guise of an ordained minister "for the purposes of writing a book," and as Rev. Timothy Miles, has represented in a site at http://www.themeaningoflife.net that he has been gifted through a crystal with a text that he believes is a true "message from God,"

The SEC also said Miles/Tracy and his co-conspirators "reaped profits of more than $500,000" out of the fraud.

--------------------
Gordon Gekko says--"Greed is Good"
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
link 'em up, Doni...make it easy to see, if you're onto somethin'


what's the link between Miles and Lemon?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Another at....or did i miss this?

http://www.businesscomputingmagazine.com/issues/issue105.pdf

it goes on and on...geez
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Actually if you do a google search for "********** litigation" you will find enough good reading to keep you busy all night
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Actually if you do a google search for "S t o ck le mon litigation" you will find enough good reading to keep you busy all night


 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Wow, for once we REALLY have those short SOB's over a barrel! LOL! -JERKS!

I believe we do. Screw you short sellers that are reading this!

Holding here till the cows come home! Moo Cow, Moo! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea ok, why not. Me too.

MOOO!
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris
In reply to: Our-Street who wrote msg# 15899
Date:7/26/2006 5:29:26 PM
Post #of 16164

Sir or Madam;

The damage that you have caused to the selling shareholders is my only concern.

If you are the DD expert that you claimed to be, then you would know the facts and you would have not posted false and misleading statements.

Look over your shoulder there, I wish the best for you, but I know how when the political arm slams small time con-artist like yourself in Third World countries; it is swift and usually with un-fair justice.

Remember; the golden rule of all investing, DO your Due Diligence. LOL

GODSPEED, hang in there shareholders, I told you, this was going to be a ride and look for the 10-KSB.

Rufus Paul Harris
Chairman & CEO
Conversion Solutions, Inc.
(OTC BB: FHAL)
125 TownPark Dr. Suite 300
Kennesaw, Georgia 30144
Office: 770-420-8270
Cell: 678-255-7650

I just wanted to see how easy it was to fake an email. I typed it, not pasted.
Not saying this is fake, just looking out for them.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
glad to come back and see awsome post's ,,go get RUFUS!!!that was really him right!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
go get them RUFUS!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
MOO! to the moon shorts and bashers
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
good read here---http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/lr16651.htm
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/lr16651.htm
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
ok so im just getting in... i know i missed a big ride today!

give me the gyst before i sift 10 pages

...the good the bad the good the bad the good... ended bad? or ended good?

and why are we reading lawsuit stuff??? [Confused]

~BB
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
arrrrgh i still dont get it [Frown]

lawsuit good or lawsuit bad????

reading backwards isnt easy.

someone intentionally is tanking us?

I DESERVE $15 PPS FOR ENDURING THIS DRAMA!

anyone nutshell please?
~BB
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
ok so im just getting in... i know i missed a big ride today!

give me the gyst before i sift 10 pages

...the good the bad the good the bad the good... ended bad? or ended good?

and why are we reading lawsuit stuff??? [Confused]

~BB

Haha dont worry, the lawsuit stuff is against the chumps that some of us feel may be "playing" with our PPS
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
ok so im just getting in... i know i missed a big ride today!

give me the gyst before i sift 10 pages

...the good the bad the good the bad the good... ended bad? or ended good?

and why are we reading lawsuit stuff??? [Confused]

~BB

basically, peeps confused.

some think "standard" reverse-merger protocol applies, others convinced the "new-found" 368 provision applies...

at this point? emotion in control

DD needed on "368" regs
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
arrrrgh i still dont get it [Frown]

lawsuit good or lawsuit bad????

reading backwards isnt easy.

someone intentionally is tanking us?

I DESERVE $15 PPS FOR ENDURING THIS DRAMA!

anyone nutshell please?
~BB

There is evidence all over the net stating that l em on st ocks and our s tre et have been dealing with legality issues in the past regarding "tanking stock for own personal gain". Today they posted some very slanderous material and again we TANKED. Shortly after Rufus threatened them publicly with legal action
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
arrrrgh i still dont get it [Frown]

lawsuit good or lawsuit bad????

reading backwards isnt easy.

someone intentionally is tanking us?

I DESERVE $15 PPS FOR ENDURING THIS DRAMA!

anyone nutshell please?
~BB

A lot of little girls(no offense) selling! AHHHHH!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
oooooo suspense and intrigue! common sense tells me it would be hard for the human greed factor not to take over when ur a small stock analyzer. so 8 ball says verrry likely [Wink]

DD 368 regs got it, thx Tex.

nothing like checking your phone at 11am and seeing 1.38 and then at 3pm and seeing .98!!!

thx u guys!

hey cass, my girls aint sellin (nor are they for sale LOL)

~BB
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
oooooo suspense and intrigue! common sense tells me it would be hard for the human greed factor not to take over when ur a small stock analyzer. so 8 ball says verrry likely [Wink]

DD 368 regs got it, thx Tex.

nothing like checking your phone at 11am and seeing 1.38 and then at 3pm and seeing .98!!!

thx u guys!

hey cass, my girls aint sellin (nor are they for sale LOL)

~BB

Just what "girls" are you talking about. Hmmmmm! GLTY [Wink]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, i havent found any "368 regs for dummies" so im completely screwed. Here is where my major lack of experience in the field kicks in. I sure hope someone makes some sense out of that stuff. I'll stick with engineering, you can fake your intelligence there. [Smile]
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
all i am getting on reg 368 is about stocks and taxes
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Posted by: digiwench I-HUB POST
In reply to: None Date:7/26/2006 9:12:54 PM
Post #of 16458

LIST OF QUESTIONS FOR BEN STANLEY: COO
________________________________________

This is the final list of questions for tomorrow's Q&A session with Ben Stanley. If you have any new questions for him, please PM me with them. Thank you! (yes, the Q&A today was postponed due to the ********** fiasco, which they needed to address)

Sorry Rick, I was at Paltalk was busy all afternoon, and trying to get through to Ben Stanley.

I was on Paltalk, when we heard about **********. I'm the one who called him to let him know that FHAL stock was under attack, and he thanked me, and cancelled our meeting tonight at 4:30.

Later this evening, he called me to let me know that CVSU had filed a lawsuit against **********, and another site called "our street.com" He told me that he would in the morning they would be releasing PRs and then he would call me to let me know when we could set up the Q&A. In the meantime , here is the list of questions we put together to ask him:

10-K, S-4 and 8-K Qustions:

1) In the 8k it reads: "In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is less than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price"

This indicates that the price could fall to less than $15. Is this correct? What steps will CVSU elect to take in order to "maintain Average Closing Price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price?"

Please clarify.

2) Since option A in section 2.6 of the 8-K states:

" In the event that the Actual Average Closing Price is ***LESS*** than $15.00, the Surviving Holdings Company shall deliver written notice to the Company no later than the second (2 nd ) Business Day preceding the Closing Date pursuant to which the Surviving Holdings Company shall elect, in its sole discretion, to: (a) maintain the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price;

Why is Rufus saying that option A only applies if the price is *ABOVE* $15/share, when it says ***LESS*** than $15.00?

If the price is LESS than $15 does this not say that they can use "the Average Closing Price at a price equal to the Actual Average Closing Price" and NOT $15/share.

3) Can this deal be cancelled as stated in the 8-K, section 2.6?

(c) set the Average Closing Price at $15.00 and pay no additional consideration to the holders of Company Shares receiving shares of Buyer's Stock as Merger Consideration (after giving effect to the allocation procedures set forth in Section 2.4 ). In the event that the Buyer elects option (c) described above, ***the Company may terminate this Agreement*** by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date.

What assurance do we have that the section that states ***the Company may terminate this Agreement*** will not take place?

4) Will the 10K be filed by Friday?

5) What's more important than the filing date is when the 10K will be available for public viewing.


FHAL Questions:

1) I know this seems like an obvious question, but could you just explain to us "Why arent any of the institutions Rufus mentioned buying FHAL stock now for $1? why wait till its $15?"

2) "WHY would the institutions buy this stock at $15 and support it from falling?" Can you give us the names of any of these institutions? Which insitutions are involved in the post merger $15 PPS support?

3) What day do they expect to trading to halt, and CVSU trading begun? Do you expect this to take place after trading hours? How long will the halt last? Will it be less than two days?

4) Can we expect trading in FHAL to be halted within the next five business days?

5) Will existing FHAL stockholders be able to trade shares as soon as their brokers redefine their holdings to CVSU, after the halt?

6) what was the exact number for the fhal O/S? and has this increased in the past 2 weeks?


CVSU Questions:

1) Does CVSU own all of the existing FHAL float?

2) If no. What percentage of the float do they own?

3) Is it true that CVSU Executives, such as Paul Harris, cannot sell their personal shares for a period of 90 days after the new CVSU ticker symbol begins to trade?

4) If that is incorrect, when CAN a CVSU executive begin selling their personal shares?

5) Do they KNOW THE WHALES ARE THAT OWN THE REMAINDER?
(Do you personally know who are the big owners of the oustanding large blocks of shrares)

6) How much does CVSU have in cash, not bonds, IOUS or ICC Euro notes?

7) What is CVSU's current revenue stream?

8) What are the terms and nature of the 500 mil bond Caracas Group "invested in " CVSU ?

9) How did CVSU get its hands on a lawsuit won for 300 mil against the state of Washington ?

10) RPH mentioned that the washington Bonds were part of the fallout from the S&L crisis. Do we understand this correctly?

11) How much interest do those bonds pay?

12) Can you shed any additional light on the nature of the Euroclear bonds?

13) Has CVSU's trust representative has been buying shares in the past few days...especially this morning?

Post Merger Questions:

1) Are there PRs aligned post ticker change that will help support or bring in new investors, e.g. large contracts etc

2) Are there $15 billion in institutional buyers lining up to buy CVSU shares after August 1st?

3) Is there the possibility of a Forward Split taking place within 90 days of the new ticker symbols start of trading?

4) RPH has also mentioned several times about CVSU considering a forward split; what is the projected time window they are targetting for, and what ratios are they considering, such as 3:2, 2:1, or even 3:1

5) What quarter are they targeting their first subsidiary IPO for, what price range and what range of probable share volume and are they targeting GA as the first candidate
(Each of these would add value to why we stockholders should hold rather than sell at first opportunity....... and would encourage new investors adding buying pressure on the stock)

6) Are there existing Notes and/or Debentures on CVSU stock that can be converted right after the merger (or even now) and are they restricted in any way?

Obvious Questions:

1) Will the new ticker CVSU begin trading at $15?

2) Is Rufus Paul Harris known to be a regular poster on Investorshub.com FHAL board?

3) Can you assure everyone in this room that there will be NO 90-120 day waiting period for the stock to "convert" from FHAL to CVSU.

4) Will there be any additional pr's prior to the merger to help restore investor confidence?


Joint Venture Questions:

1) Can you comment on where "Lotteryfever.com" stands today? Are there contracts with states in the works? Which states? How many machines are expected to be sold over the next year?

2) What is the business of "Rocky Road Entertainment"? What would you say is the value of this particular holding?

3) What is AISS's current revenue stream, approximately.

4) Are there any large or imminent contracts that shareholders should be aware of? Would these contracts be signed within three months?

5) After AISS, which of CVSU's other ventures is believed to be the most lucrative?

6) Why?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Wow, those are good. This should be an interesting (and apparently well planned) interview. I hope soooooo much that they can answer all of those without even so much as a hiccup!

Hopefully some of those will even be answered in the morning if a well needed PR hits the wire
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mathis:
all i am getting on reg 368 is about stocks and taxes

remember, as posted by the company? this is IRS-related, "non-taxable"
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
"Most of the confusion seems to be the rules surrounding a reverse merger aquisition and a reorganization."

Not from my perspective: I believe the "new-one-on-us" is the 386 dealie, "nontaxable" wrinkle.

Tex - what?
 
Posted by stocknut2007 on :
 
wow! very good questions indeed. only wish the interview could of been earlier, like a few days ago. Excitement in the air..woohoooo.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
"Most of the confusion seems to be the rules surrounding a reverse merger aquisition and a reorganization."

Not from my perspective: I believe the "new-one-on-us" is the 386 dealie, "nontaxable" wrinkle.

Tex - what?
Green,

This appears to *not* be a "standard" reverse merger.

For one? the company promises no r/s...

Yet, many believe a price adjustment is imminent. Apparently, this traces to regs invoked by the company involving an IRS aspect, namely the "368" language....

does that help?
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Yea, I guess THANKS! too much information in my head today.

I'm also trying to read some of these stoc k le mon links and it makes me wonder how they can still be up and running.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
More From I-HUB:

SUMMARY OF BEN STANLEY phone calls today.

Last night I called Ben Stanley at his home. It was 9:40 at night, and I could hear his kids in the background.

I told him that there were some concerned investors here who need answers.

I tried to set up a Q&A on Paltalk for today at 12:30. He told me that he and Rufus would be busy working, could he do it at 4:30 We set it up for 4:30.

However, in the afternoon, someone alerted the room that FHAL had been placed on stock lemon.com.

I called Ben Stanley immediately to tell him this news, and urged him to do something. I called him again fifteen minutes later, when we saw the Level 2s collapsing.I impressed on him the importance of handling the situation immediately. People in the Paltalk room told me to relate the story of STTK. Ben Stanley then said CVSU was going to "deal" with the situation, and said they would be cancelling the meeting for today.

At 4:30, he called me back and told me two things:

They would be releasing "PR(s)" tomorrow morning. I don't know how many that means. More than one, for sure. Maybe two. These would be addressinng stock lemon and our-street, I was told.

He told me that they had already begun a lawsuit against the people who had posted negative press against CVSU. He also had quite alot to say about Bbane, which I tried to transcribe, and will post separately.

That is simply what he told me.

Finally, he said that after the PRs, he would be calling me to set up a new hour for the Q&A.

I will post that time as soon as I know myself.

We know for sure that it will be held at PALTALK.

Ben Stanley "hinted" at financials being released on Friday, but then changed the subject quickly. I don't know how to interpret that. I am hoping that this means that we will have financials soon. PLEASE don't quote me on this. Instead, come to the Paltalk Q&A and ask Ben Stanley himself.

He said that they have "a plan". We need to know what that is.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I hope they wait until eod for the Q&A this time. We haven't had the best of luck with their during hours chats.

I'll sure we will all be tuned in closely tomorrow. Good night.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
8K filing
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename %3D0001297077%252D06%252D000046%252Etxt%26filepath%3D%255C2006%255C07%255C12%255 C&symbol=FHAL

CVSU is a private company (owned buy Rufas and Stanley)
"They" want to be able to trade those stocks
CVSU "claims" they are worth at least $15/share

CVSU buys FHAL (already done),
They will merge
Old CVSU share holders will get 1 share of "FHAL" shares for each CVSU they have
(really RUFAS AND STANLEY will now have 2 shares of the "merged" company)
All shares are now called "CVSU"...
If on the close of day on the first trading day of the "new" ticker symbol..CVSU...does not close at or above the $15.00 mark...all CVSU holders(forget about the symbol of FHAL..it no longer excists)will recieve the difference in $...


According to Rufas and his PR's and the not so wonderful talks with M N1
Rufas has said no R/S but some people have said that "they" would do a R/S but according to this link they would need to give a 10 day notice.

http://www.otcbb.com/aboutOTCBB/secrules.stm

10B-17

Given to the National Association of Securities Dealers, Inc., no later than 10 [calendar] days prior to the record date involved or, in case of a rights subscription or other offering if such 10 [calendar] days advance notice is not practical, on or before the record date and in no event later than the effective date of the registration statement to which the offering relates, and such notice includes:


How can they close and reset the "pps"?

FHAL was bancrupt and according to the below link...they can close and "reset the PPS"

Send us a link http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/757563/000129707706000046/fhaul8-kmergers igned.htm from Rufus and here is another link that defines the reorganization http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-01-24.pdf from Rufus. I'm doing this as he is talking so forgive.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
"If on the close of day on the first trading day of the "new" ticker symbol..CVSU...does not close at or above the $15.00 mark...all CVSU holders(forget about the symbol of FHAL..it no longer excists)will recieve the difference in $..."

ok, great--right here: close of day on the first trading day of the "new" ticker symbol..CVSU

good find... (have not verified, but good evidence that FHAL shareholders interests carry forward)

good post...
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by mathis:
all i am getting on reg 368 is about stocks and taxes

remember, as posted by the company? this is IRS-related, "non-taxable"
This is all I can come up with..Sorry a bit new to this..not sure if this will even help
http://www.nysscpa.org/cpajournal/2005/605/essentials/p58.htm
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
SYGY,

Can you also ask about Brittenum Brothers Entertainment, Inc. and Seko Management Inc.? Find out how they are related to CVSU, what future plans they have with them, how they got involved with them, and anything else that you can think of about the two groups. The Brittenum Brothers where the ones on "American Idol" that one thought that the other had been voted off, and then quit, then found out that he hadn't been voted off. Later they had some trouble with buying a car with someone else's information, and I think that they where charged with identity theft and fraud. Please find out more about them, and how they will impact the future of the company.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
im reading:

http://www.vcinstitute.org/bookstore/exitingmushkin.html

and

http://www.orrick.com/publications/index.asp?action=article&articleID=233

because they seem pertinent but im still seeing if the actually are.. thought id share.

kinda like homework.

~BB
 
Posted by vettes76 on :
 
Excellent post BB, probably best I have seen today. By the way, hello crowd I am in as of earlier this morning * 1.09. Wish you the all the best!
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
Have you guys been following the Ihub board ? Jesus Crimeny, it's an absolute circus over there today !

Everyday this is becoming the 'soap opera' penny of 2006 ! Nuts.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
you are DARN right UNCLE SMELLY!!!inever realized that our ceo RUFUS actually post's quite a bit on I-Hub,,,went through his post's that he has done, through his profile!!actually kinda kool guy!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
you are DARN right UNCLE SMELLY!!!inever realized that our ceo RUFUS actually post's quite a bit on I-Hub,,,went through his post's that he has done, through his profile!!actually kinda kool guy!!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Tex writes:
quote:
This appears to *not* be a "standard" reverse merger.

For one? the company promises no r/s...

Promises mean nothing. See VWKM Thread

That "policy" of no reverse split was in writing in a PR. No reverse splits Guess what is happenning tommorrow?

Caution is in order here.

Jo
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jo4321:
Tex writes:
quote:
This appears to *not* be a "standard" reverse merger.

For one? the company promises no r/s...

Promises mean nothing. See VWKM Thread

That "policy" of no reverse split was in writing in a PR. No reverse splits Guess what is happenning tommorrow?

Caution is in order here.

Jo

Well, thats sort of depressing. Thanks for giving me yet another thing to worry about. [Smile]
 
Posted by fhalyesss on :
 
There is a major difference between VWKM and FHAL as regards reverse splilts:
The VWKM PR was two months before the announcment of the r/s. At the time the managment was different and the stock was not under an intense spotlight.
Rufus would have to be pretty stupid to say no r/s and then do it less than a week after.That would make it look very pre-meditated!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Jo makes a valid point; pennyland, after all. Still, having documents filed with SEC is stronger than simply a PR.

That's another horse to wash and brush, though...Not saying it doesn't need washing n brushing....

But, the point of the statement was to focus on the "different" nature of this merger--the whole pps "reset" capability is being claimed because of the 368 provision.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Tex, don't you sleep - you were here when I went to bed last night. Thanks for the great points to ponder.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Hmmm, i think i finally found a bit on 368. Its still a bit of mumbo jumbo for me but its starting to sink in. Here is a clip and link where the clip came from.

"Substantially all" is also a defined term, by reference to another corporate code section: 368(a)(1)(C).3 Section 368 is a non-recognition provision, which allows a corporation to transfer "substantially all" its assets to another corporation without recognizing gain. Unfortunately for the gift-planning community, this means that the guidance under Section 368 has focused on succeeding in transferring "substantially all" of the corporate assets rather than failing to transfer "substantially all" of them. So referring to the existing rulings, and the IRS ruling policy, provides only minimal guidance. Since that guidance is all we have, we can at least start there. Generally, the Service uses as a ruling guideline that the "substantially all" requirement is satisfied if there is a transfer of assets representing at least 90% of the fair market value of the net assets and at least 70% of the fair market value of the gross assets held by the corporation immediately before the transfer (in this case, "transfer" would be the donation).4

http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=277107
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Also, i dont know if this one was already linked.

http://www.unclefed.com/ForTaxProfs/irs-regs/2005/td9182.pdf

It goes on and on. Sharing more. [Smile]

http://www.nysscpa.org/cpajournal/2005/605/essentials/p58.htm
 
Posted by 66inxs on :
 
morning tex ! is FHAL on the short list today? lost my link. what's your read on all of this? today could be a big day or big trouble, depending on trader's perceptions. TIA !!!

in or out ???
 
Posted by 66inxs on :
 
if this was a short squeeze, wouldn't this appear on this list of shorts from yesterday?

http://www.**********/tools/short_list.php?ssd=20060726

not bashing, not pumping, info please, as i want to be in or out at open today and can't decide on this. TIA and dyodd please.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Gapping down premarket .98 x .94.
 
Posted by 66inxs on :
 
saw that djg. not what i expected. wassup with that???
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Regarding a R/S...Rufus said that they couldn't do one even if they wanted to. The 8k spells out exactly what they can do and a R/S was not in there. I assume they could do one at a later date, but I don't know how much later that would have to be.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
I think with all the bashing going on other boards has created fear in FHAL. This is interesting because a decision must be made whether to dump out of fear or accumulate more as it dips. There is a lot of confusion.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by djg7:
Gapping down premarket .98 x .94.

Yea i noticed that too. I can feel the ulcers forming. Grrr
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Reverse split is nonsense, what is there to gain if the O/s shares are so low, if they reverse split their o/s whould be so low it would be difficult to trade 50,000 shares/day to move to nasdaq, JMO
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I believe it will be a hard day today, all the press, the rumors etc... We may have a $15 payday right around the corner on Monday. Get comfy, ride free shares if you have them and watch the show.

It all boils down to if you believe it will happen or not, I think most here think it will happen, IMO

I'm LONG FYI

GLTA!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Anyone notice Bid higher then Ask again?...

Games all day long it will be... Good day to go fishing! ha ~

Rolaids anyone?.... [Smile]
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
not looking good
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Am i seriously seeing .87?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Yup .86 x .87 3 x 3
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, i hope there are about 10,000 people just waiting for this to hit .87 [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Bounce all around today ~ I don't see it going higher with shorts to be covered.

I'm letting them ride, no one has posted anything that can make me think that the deal won't go though, so let it go to $15 and then sellout where you can. I'd be happy with $5! ha ~

Try to keep looking where we are going, rumor mill will be in OVERDRIVE today.

Good luck to us all fellow investors and traders!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Bounce all around today ~ I don't see it going higher with shorts to be covered.

I'm letting them ride, no one has posted anything that can make me think that the deal won't go though, so let it go to $15 and then sellout where you can. I'd be happy with $5! ha ~

Try to keep looking where we are going, rumor mill will be in OVERDRIVE today.

Good luck to us all fellow investors and traders!

Yea everyone and their brother will try to shake the tree today. I better tie myself in.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Back to shorting this thing (yeah…my least favorite subject that I can’t get away from):

Lots of talk has been made saying that it would be better for the shorters to short this when it opens at $15. To do that, wouldn’t there have to be some buyers at $15? They can’t short the stock if there’s no one there to buy their borrowed/naked shares…right?

So, I’m thinking it might be in their best interest to let this thing run up high where they can short it at a higher price. If they don’t do that, and the price just falls back down to just above these levels, then they won’t profit on this (and could actually loose some due to having shorted the stock at the current level).
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
0.86 x 0.87

I just pulled my buy order I may get more this morning for less than I thought.

Still vice gripping my slips.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
didn't I read on this thread that Rufus was putting out PRs this morning?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Yeah Cat.... I'm already on my 3rd Rolaid! ha ~

But screw that, I'm staying long!!!
If those MM's were funding those bash sites then they are shaking today, this is just what you would expect. Now if the price went UP I would be concerned....

"THINK about it...."
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
More than one PR is what I heard.
 
Posted by Peaser on :
 
Just remember, I believe that when the cusip number changes, shorts not covered will lose 100%.

Shorting this would be a scary thing IMO.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
CAT - I'm so new to this I haven't found the tree yet, but let me exercise a term from a more familiar field......ALL IN.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Shorting... A million things could happen with this thing... Really.

They could let it run to $50 then drop it. Who know's???? But I'm going to find out [Smile]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Am i seriously seeing .87?

It will more than likely hit .70 + or - a point for a low today....Suspect it will do that early on,,,

If it gaps hard down fine... Gaps fill to the upside as well as down....
 
Posted by 66inxs on :
 
32400 traded, gapping down to .855 wildride ahead. what do they now that we don't ???

it drives me crazy...
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
ouchhhh
 
Posted by Lets help eachother out on :
 
SCAM
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Can't wait, WhEEEEEE!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Scared money will sell off, things will settle, but it won't be a green day I don't believe because of the shorts. Who cares?...

This is the point of no return, and here we go!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I hope so I had a buy in this morning for 1.03. Cancelled that and would be real happy with .70's.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Bouncing back already! lol ~
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
My streamer is down ....
what did we open at??
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Yeah .88!!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
wheres the news RUFUS!!!!????
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
open .0865
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
.865 I believe
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
dropping now down to .82
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Wow, wish I could buy more shares..... sniff-sniff
LOL ~
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Oh man!! Could of had .80... Oh well saw that .90 and decided it was going back up.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
And into the .70's. This is too painful to watch
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Yeah, wish I would have waited...shoulda, woulda, coulda!

Now in the high 70's.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
any buy orders coming in?
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Bounce from .75
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
no real big surprises yet, there is a support level in the 70's
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
1.6 mil volume already
 
Posted by jasbran on :
 
That's some shakedown.....
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
M N 1 is bashing again...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
BOARD... M N 1 is talking about Rufus and FHAL They are talking to a guy who said that the smart thing to do would be pull your original investment out and ride free shares. DUH ~
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
this could be an interesting ride back up with the right PR
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Oddly WWEN is tanking too. Didnt they have an interview on M N 1 last night? [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so when do all of those great questions get answered today?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
No their interview is tonight.
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
NO MORE INTERVIEWS with M N 1 please!!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Funny you should mention wwen and the mn boys...they are having a interview with them today. [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
this thing is steadily climbing
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
good morning, well hi maybe not good...hmmm? Did everyone sell? If anyone is still holding give a hollar.... [Wink]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
come on Rufus,,bring it on!!!
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
HOLLAR!!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
What's going on? Ameritrade changed the volume down to under 2 mil and I'm not seeing any trades go through. This isn't right is it?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
HOLDING!! [Smile]
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Nevermind...I reset it and its back.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
good morning, well hi maybe not good...hmmm? Did everyone sell? If anyone is still holding give a hollar.... [Wink]

I'm holding - here's why (I'm as green as anyone can be though). I've seen nothing in the way of proof that all the reasons we're in this have changed. It makes sense for shorts to bank now not later (post 8/01) when they're screwed unless they count on the ride down from $15. Bottom line...no changes this week except hype (yet).
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
bought another 12k at .85. GLTA
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Thats it only 2 people still holding????
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'm still in...
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
I am trying to get some funds transfered over to pick some up at these levels, IMO this will be at 15 next week, let all the scared people sell out and miss this chance. I have done alot dd and i am holding.. glta
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Everyone and their mother is holding that's why they can't drop the price like a hot rock! LOL ~
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
thats 3 plus me...hmm my math is still =ing 4 ?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Ive been in since June 15.....still in today.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Thats 5.... guess we are gonna make this blow!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I'm in...
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
yep, still in
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
6 come on people we got tomorrow maybe it'll all be the best day ever?!! Sunshine and warm ...
 
Posted by jasbran on :
 
This sucks but I will not give up just yet!
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
sold some and holding some..
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
how many shares is everyone sitting on? 10066 here, i know it is not as much as some of you but i got in late
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Getting funds today ... will buy more asap! I have a strong feeling $15 will be maintainable and and it's very possible we may blow by it!

I believe the institutions are going to want AISS by buying CVSU. By the way, I'm sure these varioius instutional funds would love to buy right now but, they have guidelines restricting there investment according to what kind of fund they are set up to be.

All is still good! All will be even better soon!
 
Posted by plni on :
 
I got in yesterday
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
im in, will load more on reversal
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
still in here!!too!
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
still in this
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
although this is NOT easy to watch..
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Still in with it all.
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
dont have much but $ is $
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
It will be easy to watch my account go to 6 digits! [Smile]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
geeze ihub is baaad!!!!!!! So who here really I mean Really are real and not fakes for this stock..One thing I learned is it's hard to trust anyone on the boards trust your gut...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
It's PR:30 that is 30 minutes after PR time.
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
I have my eyes glued to the New Streamer, just waiting.....
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Things to keep in mind:
AISS is solid JV
Merger is complete, filed with state of Delaware
Plans to go to Nasdaq within 90 days
Post ticker change 15 will not hold, wait for PRs of contracts, new business

Things we need now:
solid 10q

All IMO, add to list if you wish, just trying to keep the positives and negatives in check
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I agree. This is not the timeliness I would have anticipated on the PR given the events that took place, yesterday.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Originally Posted by Snivvle
DOMINO EFFECT:


1)MM1 Interview - Huge Lot of sellers because of misunderstanding

2)********** - Caused Panic selling, alot of people who wanted to hold, sold based upon their ludicrous report

3)PPS-DECLINE - Becuase of such a big decline, leads more people to be unsure of themselves and the Stock. More people who bought in the PENNY range, .10,.20,.30+ begin selling Shares so that they can make a Profit. Some may hold

There it is, a Simple Domino Effect. Because we are in the Sub-Dollar Range again, it leads to more people who got in early, in the lower penny range, to sell a huge lot of their shares, to make sure that they Profit since they have been vested for 2 weeks+.

I am sure that even those who got in at the .10 to .20 are still holding some shares, however not nearly as much as when they first bought in.

That is how I see it.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
geeze ihub is baaad!!!!!!! So who here really I mean Really are real and not fakes for this stock..One thing I learned is it's hard to trust anyone on the boards trust your gut...

Never fall for the "BS" on the boards...do your own DD and yes..follow your gut!
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I am definitely not a fake with this stock. I do not think I would even know how to pump or bash a stock. Not been in this stock business very long..
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
What are you guys using for a news streamer?
 
Posted by Bland on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
This whole drop was orchestrated by ARCA. Anyone else with L2's notice that. Same as yesterday. Have a good night. I don't think I'll be on tonight. Sick of hearing all the B.S

Thanks for tuning in...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
International news this morning has improved Venesuela's position. Here is the headline. "Russia may invest billions of dollars in Venezuela - Putin"
 
Posted by Bland on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Your site sucks Bland.

I'm sorry that you bought the hype but M N 1 put a buy recommendation at .095. You'd be praising our work with FHAL if you bought then.

Stinson Bland
Market News First
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
i have TDAM streaming charts running also, levels 2's, last sale and news streamer for FHAL, not taking my eyes off this one..
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
oh this is lovely.

good morning all, anyone buying?

~BB
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Actually Bland I bought at .29 (average) and got out yesterday. I made about 400% off it. My comment was toward the professionalism of your crappy hosts. Who, by the way, bashed the man after he hung up the phone, not while he was on the line. They bashed for about 10 minutes. It was not right, if they wanted to confront him they had their chance, but they waited until he was gone.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Bland...their basis for the .095 buy in was for FHAL before CVSU had anything going. Turns out that we find that FHAL was actually approaching bankruptcy and the Amazon deal wasn't any where near as good as they promoted.

So...M N 1 basically got lucky...as did we!

And for the record...the problem I have with M N 1 is the lack of professionalism on the part of the hosts!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
oh this is lovely.

good morning all, anyone buying?

~BB

yes! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
M N 1 + Hosts = bad
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bland:
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Your site sucks Bland.

I'm sorry that you bought the hype but M N 1 put a buy recommendation at .095. You'd be praising our work with FHAL if you bought then.

Stinson Bland
Market News First

No I wouldn't, fact is I would be happy if you acted responsibly and did NOT tell listeners to buy or sell either way.

You post disclaimers every fifteen minutes to cover you but ts, but for some reason your guys can't keep their mouths shut. They bash stock they have done little or no research on and they have very little respect for the market as a whole. Here is a quote from 10 seconds ago, "Oh yeah, that Sarbanes Oxley crap!". Now that is responsible, professional financial insight.

TB
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Right on TaxBack04, that's just what I hear too...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
M N 1 + host = jacka$$! Sorry Bland, you boy's need some work.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
M N 1 needs one us, someone who has been around and knows these stocks. Yesterday the morning narrators said on the air they were new to all this! And who is listining? Do a upscale move and get someone with experience to interview and comment!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
I'm in...

In TROUBLE!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
ha.. I was trying to be nice! lol ~ -but it is true Bland, -sorry dude
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Opinion question - many stocks have taken a nosedive on good news - If we get a great 10q today do we think that will push us up like it should or same old nosedive story?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
it would make absolutly no sense for REAL, genuine, meaty news to make us go down...if REAL news actually came out and we went down it would be 100% manipulation...

and it would bring us up eventually anyhow...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
edit.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Stinson??? Stinson??? Did your parents NOT like you??? Stinson.....geeeezzz... That is Bland!!!
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Looks like I'll be able to buy more than I thought I would be able to ...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Opinion question - many stocks have taken a nosedive on good news - If we get a great 10q today do we think that will push us up like it should or same old nosedive story?

In the past this has happened, but everything that was making that stock move was centered around specific news. It comes out and people realize there is nothing left to wait for. This is much different. A good 10q shows that everything Rufus has been saying is more credible. People can buy, sell I don't care. GLTY [Big Grin]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Bland...their basis for the .095 buy in was for FHAL before CVSU had anything going. Turns out that we find that FHAL was actually approaching bankruptcy and the Amazon deal wasn't any where near as good as they promoted.

So...M N 1 basically got lucky...as did we!

And for the record...the problem I have with M N 1 is the lack of professionalism on the part of the hosts!

Well said.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
didnt anyone do homework with me on reorganization within the meaning of Section 368 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986??! heah. [Wink]

well here's what i found, could use more input.

JNPR - another company that did this exact same kind of 368 restructuring.

Bought Micro Magic, par value .00001

http://contracts.corporate.findlaw.com/agreements/juniper/micro.mer.2000.11.27.h tml

im wondering if Rufus actually is really smart, and is just exploiting a loophole.
a lot of articles say that 386 needs to be closed. maybe he's just taking advantage of its being there?

Kind of like accountants like to find legitimate loopholes to show their prowess.

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
im reading:

http://www.vcinstitute.org/bookstore/exitingmushkin.html

and
http://www.orrick.com/publications/index.asp?action=article&articleID=233

because they seem pertinent but im still seeing if the actually are.. thought id share.

kinda like homework.

~BB


HEY!! I did my homework! I just didnt understand a lot of it LOL. A page back or two i listed several links regarding 368. I like what youve done though, real world stuff. All i could find was oodles of documents regarding "what ifs"
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
didnt anyone do homework with me on reorganization within the meaning of Section 368 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986??! heah. [Wink]

well here's what i found, could use more input.

JNPR - another company that did this exact same kind of 368 restructuring. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=jnpr

Bought Micro Magic, par value .00001

http://contracts.corporate.findlaw.com/agreements/juniper/micro.mer.2000.11.27.h tml

im wondering if Rufus actually is really smart, and is just exploiting a loophole.
a lot of articles say that 386 needs to be closed. maybe he's just taking advantage of its being there?

Kind of like accountants like to find legitimate loopholes to show their prowess.

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
im reading:

http://www.vcinstitute.org/bookstore/exitingmushkin.html

and
http://www.orrick.com/publications/index.asp?action=article&articleID=233

because they seem pertinent but im still seeing if the actually are.. thought id share.

kinda like homework.

~BB

[edited: add link]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
BB are you staying in thru the merger?

I am thinking tha tRufas is "playing" the loophole...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
edit.

I think that Rufus is that smart. Over and over e has stated using the 386 reorganiztion. This is all by design. Taking the whole picture into consideration and listening to what he has been saying not how he sounds, leads me to believe that they did their homework and that they will pull this off. JMHO

Good Luck
Wally
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
BB are you staying in thru the merger?

I am thinking tha tRufas is "playing" the loophole...

Did I miss sumpthin above???

Define "Loophole" 10
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I'm with you wallymac ~
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
here's another one that seems to have benefitted by the same R/M exploitation of section 386


TSCM: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=tscm

reverse merged into Security Intelligence Technologies, Inc. (formerly known as HipStyle.com, Inc.)(par value .0001)

http://www.tscm.com/CCSTanks/2002.04.26-SC13D.htm

ineresting statement:
The Merger was consummated so that the Issuer will have on a consolidated basis an operating entity, and CCS will have the opportunities available to public companies.

kinda like this here transaction yes?

~BB
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
wheres the news? big f-en grin!!??
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
edit.

I think that Rufus is that smart. Over and over e has stated using the 386 reorganiztion. This is all by design. Taking the whole picture into consideration and listening to what he has been saying not how he sounds, leads me to believe that they did their homework and that they will pull this off. JMHO

Good Luck
Wally

I completely agree. Listening to Rufus, he is very confident in his company. Most on these boards claim they are LONG, until a dip. I'm here and not going anywhere. Can't wait. By the way I tried to get a hold of Rufus, just to talk about the PR's we will get today and tomorrow. No answer. Anyone else talk to him today? JMO [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
edit.

I think that Rufus is that smart. Over and over e has stated using the 386 reorganiztion. This is all by design. Taking the whole picture into consideration and listening to what he has been saying not how he sounds, leads me to believe that they did their homework and that they will pull this off. JMHO

Good Luck
Wally

Agreed! Loolking forward to the future...how ever it pans out!

Wally..are you in?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Chart gettin really tight.....Should get some motion soon..
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
it's tight but look at the volume...

L2's are all but static...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
My loyalties are still here but i will say one thing. If i "hear" nothing from CVSU today i could be out before the bell. I hope they have good reason for their delay in info right now cuz we are getting down to the wire! Dont get me wrong, ive sold VERY few shares since i got into this and i want to stay but a fire is burning and needs to be extinguished!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Let's see, am I more excited for the cash or the for the idiots on IHUB to be silenced. It's a toss-up. Thanks everyone for your great DD and attitudes. May we head north soon again. -Cassity
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
just saw on I-HUB that moderator and a few others are gone to P a l t a l k for some urgent talk!!!sounds like 1/2 hour or so things could change,,i quess something about audit info will (and i stress i'm only reposting what i saw on I-HUB) or could be available soon !
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
was it a good or bad "urgency"...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Let's see, am I more excited for the cash or the for the idiots on IHUB to be silenced. It's a toss-up. Thanks everyone for your great DD and attitudes. May we head north soon again. -Cassity

Darn, compliments on attitude JUST as i send a bad attitude post. [Smile]

Disregard my post, i haev a good attitude!! LOL
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
not sure!!
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
I'm long and strong and want stronger but not too much longer ... adding more today!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
edit.

I think that Rufus is that smart. Over and over e has stated using the 386 reorganiztion. This is all by design. Taking the whole picture into consideration and listening to what he has been saying not how he sounds, leads me to believe that they did their homework and that they will pull this off. JMHO

Good Luck
Wally

Agreed! Loolking forward to the future...how ever it pans out!

Wally..are you in?

Been in since before the merger. Speculated on the Amazon deal. Have added on the way up. Wish I had played it better. Sold and rebought but lot's of interuptions at home.
I do like the deal. Also the Bashing on other threads on this stock along with the concerted efforts of MN 1,Stock Lemon and Our Street really
the amount of new bashers that appeared it all seems manufactered. WHY? To out a scam? I doubt it. After looking into the history of the 2 main culprits it would be hard to believe one word they print, post or utter.

I'm sticking around through the merger.

Good Luck
Wally
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ben stanley will be talking to digitrader from ihub in 30 min to ask qurstions about pr and other stuff. Mr. stanley is in a meeting with the auditors now. this is great!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Apparently COO Stanley will be back in 30min, they are in the process of getting financials back from CPA, also stated PR soon
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
must be great news... Why would he come on if it wasn't?...
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
They are talking on Traders Corner live on paltalk about FHAL right now!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
bought another 1000 shares! lets get this going!
 
Posted by jm430 on :
 
I agree that the ihub basher fiasco was orchestrated. I was somewhat following it last night and this morning. The main bashers from last night seemed to have stopped posting ever since we dropped this morning. That can't be a coincidence. I used to be skeptical about paid bashing, but when there's big $$ involved, I suppose people will stoop to anything.

Who knows, maybe it still is a scam, but nothing has changed except for the share price and the confidence of many investors. I'm sticking this through... Good luck to all.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
O.K, someone "asks good or bad". Let's think. Rufus has been stating that they have 400mil in the bank. Been all over bragging about his company. Says it's worth $34. I think the news will be good. JMO
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
EVERYONE is waiting to hear what he has to say!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
news should ROCK THIS JOINT!!!!!!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
tic! tok!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Ok, so i retract my earlier statement. The fire fighters are on their way! [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Yes, piece of mind right now would be nice
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Anyone on Paltalk ? I'm not sure what it is
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
People, check out Traders Corner Live for the coming audio conference - 5 minutes untill Q&A starts!!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i have the worst feeling this is only going to be in regards to yesterday's events...

although i can't see them not having real info here...

i guess in a half an hour some things will be clearer...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I would rather have PEASE of mind... Your way sounds painfull... [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Can you give us updates us what with what they say, sandor?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Well, I just got back in with an extremely small position, just so I could play along in the home game.

If it tanks, not losing much, but there's a good opportunity for profit if it goes up.

Jo
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
another 5 minutes given before interview starts
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
phones being swt up
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
phones being set up now
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
seeing as they (posters you have been calling all morning) said mr stanley's been on the phone with the auditor all morning, i doubt it will be re: yesterday CRab.

im thinking substance.

~BB
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey anybody notice ARCA on the ask at $99.00, that would be NICEEEEE!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'm thinking that as well now...

i hope he releases who the auditor is...well i guess he has to really...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i haved a buy in, but it hasnt filled yet today.
wondering do i hold out thru the call or up it a few cents? hrmmmm......
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
3 minutes till phone call
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
what the f... IGIA up 750+ % ???
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
ARCA has been there for a little over an hour now...

yesterday at one point they were at 15.26, lol...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I am on PalTalk he is not on the phone yet.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i haved a buy in, but it hasnt filled yet today.
wondering do i hold out thru the call or up it a few cents? hrmmmm......

Grrr, now you have me looking at my funds. I could pick up a few more....
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Picked up another 1100 at 0.815 !!!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yeah i just noticed too [Eek!]

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
what the f... IGIA up 750+ % ???


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
sorry.. IGAI
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
what the f... IGIA up 750+ % ???

Whoah, blew past that actually. Close to 1000% now
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
wtf? thought this was planned? he doesnt know anything about it???
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
INTERVIEW ON PALTALK: 10k should be released today
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
I have been reading over yesterdays posts and saw some guy repeatedly comparing this to STTK and the way that ran up and then down, if do a little digging you will see thia is NOTHING like STTK! except for the panic selling witch brought us to this level, STTK ran on empty PR`s and multiple stock alerts plus a HUGE hype and pump frenzy on these threads! STTK has nad had then little or no income few if any assets and a red balance sheet! it was a pump and dump, nothing more! there is no comparison between this and that, we have SEEN 800+ million in assets, we have seen a JV with what promisses to be a MAJOR player in the aerospace parts industry in negotiations for a billion+ in contracts! we have BIG names on board! and we WILL go to a higher exchage!not to mention we are entering an industry that generates 100`s of billions a year in buisness! this whole fiasco was very cleverly crafted to bring the price down so shorts could cover. and many fell for it! unfortunately. this is my take on the situation, I wish i had been able to post this while that basher was on yesterday but my computer at work blocks this site> GLTA!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Who doesn't know about what??
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sandor butosi:
INTERVIEW ON PALTALK: 10k should be released today

"should"

I love these guys LOL
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
INTERVIEW WITH MR. BEN STANLEY ON PALTALK: Stock might halt tomorrow or monday
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
INTERVIEW WITH MR. BEN STANLEY ON PALTALK: $15 open under CVSU still on!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i didnt realize they were blindly calling ben stanley the COO and saying hey, can we ask you questions.. you're on the air!

bad idea whomever came up with it.

now it's cutting out and we cant hear anything - these are cell phones.

~BB
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Yea tomorrow or Monday - the 28th or the 1st - that's what they have been saying all along
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
bought another thousand!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yeah, i decided not to add. good thing.

quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i haved a buy in, but it hasnt filled yet today.
wondering do i hold out thru the call or up it a few cents? hrmmmm......

Grrr, now you have me looking at my funds. I could pick up a few more....

 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
New rule for trading:

Buy on rumor, sell on interviews.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
they have located ********** dude and are filing lawsuit
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Yea tomorrow or Monday - the 28th or the 1st - that's what they have been saying all along

The 1st is a tuesday though, don't you mean the 31st?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
They are working on a press release as they were speaking to him. I wish they would have just let him finish the PR. the price is tanking.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Update.....

cvsu audit is complete, and the fhal audit is in progress

it should be done today.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
"our facts are factual"

[Smile]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
did u guys listen to the call? anyone that heard it is gonna be disappointed imo

that was just plain stupid. excuse me mr stanley, i know you're in the middle of your work day and driving along using your cell phone, but we heard you were just talking to the auditor...

and you are being broadcast to several hundred people!! woohooo!!! got a moment for 20 questions???! [Roll Eyes]

~BB
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Someone on the phone - tell Ben to hang up and get back to work.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
It's not Ben's fault. People need to stop calling him!

So this so-called conference was not planned, they just decided to call him out of the blue?

I'm confuuuused.....

Jo
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Looks like it might have helped us a little...we're headed back up some. I hope we don't stop this time.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Sometimes shareholders, even with the best intentions do the darnest things.

This was worse than people who tout PR tommorrow. Whenever expectations are raised they need to be met.

It's way past time to leave Ben and Rufus alone and let them do their job.

Sad. I don't blame mamgement for this one.

Good Luck
Wally
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Is the call over?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
the price is going up!! stop *****ing about the interview!! and stop selling!!! and it will continue to rise!!! you people are unreal!!!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Soap opera update

Apparently, Rufus got wind of this and is now in Paltalk as well.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
hey guys did anyone else see the 144's filed last night around 10:30ish? forms to sell restricted FHAL shares...totally 270k shares...

for:

John & Raimey Martin
William David Kirk
Morris Durce
Greg Aslinger

sorry for the interuption...just saw them on my E*Trade news box...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
So what's being said. Anyone?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
apparently nothing earth shattering because the PPS is staying put...although NITE and UBSS are on the ask...so they could take us down...

and no one has anything to say about the 144's?

just tell me if it's not a big deal...but i just figured since it was RESTRICTED FHAL shares it was worth mentioning...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
uhoh rufus gonna be peeeeved that we tried to blindside his COO.

so rufus is coming on live now, and they cant find anyone with a good connection to ask the questions.

i think this should recover our pps a lil. wasnt the company's fault earlier.

hes just starting to speak now

~BB
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
hey guys did anyone else see the 144's filed last night around 10:30ish? forms to sell restricted FHAL shares...totally 270k shares...

for:

John & Raimey Martin
William David Kirk
Morris Durce
Greg Aslinger

sorry for the interuption...just saw them on my E*Trade news box...

I've seen many filings like this for many other companies. What it usually means is that these people registered their shares so that they could be sold, not that a sale is imminent. If you held share and there was a possibility of them going up to $15 or over wouldn't you want to have the ability to sell them?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Maybe they are waiting for the translator to decypher Rufas' words into english...J/K sorry Rufas
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah...i kinda figured it was something like that...i just hadn't seem them mentioned...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
This paltalk room is a joke. They've spent about 5 minutes trying to figure out who is going to ask questions.

I don't even think Harris is in there anymore.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
omg, theyre displaying a disclaimer:

Traders-Corner: Disclaimer: This site is not associated with the real Traders Corner

LOL. total disorganization.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
he sounds annoyed. hes like i have 15 minutes GO.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'd be angry as hell if someone asked me to do an impromptu interview and didn't have their $hit together immediatly...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Classic. Why aren't institutions buying at $1 instead of waiting for $15..

Rufus: How do you know their not?

I love it.

Wally
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
the people w the list dont seem to be able to get their act together with a mic.

examples of reorg merger:

us air

astor brokers (its in the filings)
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
What room are they in??
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
I'll type as I listen. He says he has about 15 minutes.

Question: Why aren't any of the institutions buying now why would they wait until $15.00

Answer: How do you know they are not?

Yes we are on schedule, everything is fine, everything is scheduled from day one. People I tried to warn you about the bashers. No I have not ever been investigated by anyone in the state of SC.

People Look, let me give youabout 3/5 examples of a reorganized merger. One of them was .20 shot to $20.00 now trading at $50.00

USAIR was one.

If you want to believe anything that is said about a company today believe the filing cause their butts are on the line"
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rufus.. no FHAL shares have been sold them them... they can't.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
I dont know if anyone noticed or even cares but ARCA has been sitting high on the ask all morning and has raised his quote 3 times today! now at 99 bucks a share!! FWIW>
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Keep it coming Jo. Thank you!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
you guys see the l2's? they switched to 2500 share size...pretty much all of them...
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Q: What is the total number of shorts?

A: We have no clue. As far as what's reported that's what you have to go by. Look at where the stock is it's bouncing up and down left and right. It's a squeeze. And it's something I warned everyone of you about.

Q: Today you came on your own to this paltalk. Did you have anything in particular that you want to address?

A: I got a bunch of phone calls and I was told that Ben was on there and so I just came on to see what was going on.

A: Our audit is on our board, we're having to audit FHAL we have to audit the entire year. We're having to sort through things and find out exactly and make sense of it, so that we know that everyone gets what they deserve.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I was just about to post that money. That's very strange to me seeing he's usually in the middle of everything
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rufus... He sounds positive. Standing firm kind of thing... just touching on everything.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
WHAT HES SAYING:

"we need no one to come in & assist us with the merger as soon as the 10K is filed we're where we need to be"

"not one of the officers at cvsu or fhal even had shares to trade. our shares are rocked and cant even be released by the transfer agent and NO SHARES HAS BEEN SOLD"

re: increase in shares to 78mil based on info from the tansfer agent "are you sure about that? im not aware of that, look at the filing that is the correct info and we'll get to the bottom of that"

what is the total number of shorts? "we have no clue... but look at where the stock is... its kinda silly right now & its a squeeze..."

10K "our audit is filed on our board, we are having to audit FHAL - the entire year of financials - ...they have all types of stock that was issued to people, were having to sort thru this, review it, make sense out of it... so that those that dont deserve it dont get it"


re: AISS is it a done deal? "the joint venture corp .. do oyour DD.. AISS is a joint venture the joint venture corps are georgia aerospace & cvsu and the people saying otherwise are liars"

"if you want to get out of this stock quit selling at these levels. we dont care about the current pps"
"the shareholders rite now are the ones that control this"

WHEN IS THE HALT COMING? "the halt, the K, all of that is strategic in the market - ir ur caught w ur pants down, I WARNED YOU"


~BB
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
pps should be going up if people heard this very positive and assured.

"we do not need investors. we take our investments from large market - people who have in excess of 100 mil... we fund our projects prior. we manage it."
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
He says current share price DOES NOT MATTER.

Pay attention, the shareholders are the ones that control this.

Basically says that we need to stop flipping.

"All of the info to be released is strategic, the 10k, etc. If you're caught with your pants down"....sorry didn't get the rest. LOL.

Q: Is it true that CVSU execs will not be able to sell their personal shares for 90 days

A: I couldn't sell for 2 years. There is a percentage that I can apply for. You're not going to see anyone sell. No one has any intention of selling. This is our retirement plan....

Q: Does CVSU own all the existing float?

A: I cannot disclose that at this time.

Sorry everytime, I hit enter, I miss a few of the questions.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
"whether you buy or sell ini the market right now is irrelevant to us. ive advised you to hold and thats still my advice. id buy - id have as much of this as i can"

"i dont see where any investor confidence has been lost"

"its at 70 cents rite now? that has nothing to do with the investors, that has to do with day traders, shorters..."

oh boy, here we go again with the 90-120 day question... "REFERS TO WHAT WE ALLOW FOR THE INSTITUTIONS TO DO THE EXCHANGE." in other words, the shorters have that amount of time to make up their shorts.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rufus, I advise you hold it (shares) in fact, buy! I would hold as much of this as I could....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
sorry this caller sounds like a dork... -and I type slow [Smile]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I'm buying more.

Rufus is as smart as suspected.


Good Luck
Wally
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
prs will be put out when theyre put out.

if the stock was at 1.75 rite now you'd have a NASDAQ stock. everything is in place. the filings are in place.

"THIS IS A VERY VOLITILE MARKET BE CAREFUL DONT BUY THEIR (bashers) CRAP."

"IT IS GOING OT DO EXACTLY WHAT WEVE STATED IT IS GOING TO DO"

if there were any problems they (nasdaq/sec) would have contacted us.


so he's saying they are nasdaq approved?

"I CHALLENGE YOU TO BRING SOMETHING TO US THAT IS NOT AS WE STATED ON OUR WEBSITE... OR GO AWAY" lol [Wink]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rufus just put out a challenge to find something wrong with deal or company...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
WE HAVE CONVERTED THE BONDS IN EUROPE TO 500 MIL DOLLARS IN CASH ACCOUNT
 
Posted by jasbran on :
 
Hope you are right BB!! I am holding long. MM's kiss my a$$.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Rufus: If you want to listen to Stock lemon and these other people, go ahead.

My advice is to buy!

Q: Is there going to be PR's soon to help investor confidence can be restored.

A: I don't think investor confidence has been lowered. (then he talks about share price being because of traders)

Q: Can we trade immediately after ticker change?
A: The 90-120 days referred to is what we allow the institutions to do the exchange. 90% of them are going to do it electronically. The 90-120 days is the amount of time we are giving the shorts.

Q: Can you address where lotteryfever.com stands. How many machines.

A: With lottery fever it really doesn't have anythign to do with machines. It has to do with online. You go in and buy the lottery ticket online. It's a beta test. It's to test the market.

Q: Can you guarantee that there will be a PR today?

A: I'm not going to address that question. PR will be put out when they are put out.

Q: Can we expect FHAL to be halted within the next 5 business days

A: Let me give you a little example. We as of right now, if we were trading at 1.75, we could go to NASDAQ. Everything is in place, yes, we are on target, everything is in place. Nothing has changed just cause somone posted on Stock lemon.

We've put this together and this fell into place, it is an excellent deal. It is going to do exactly what is in the filing. If the SEC had any problem, if NASDAQ had any problem, they'd have come to us.

I challenge you to bring something to us that is not as we have stated on our website...or GO AWAY.

Q: How much does CVSU have in cash, not bonds.

A: We have converted the bonds in europe to 5 million cash. The breakdown will be in the 5k as to where it is going.

Q: What is CVSU's current revnue stream
A: We have no revenue stream. That is how we designed the company. The companies are non-operating . Revenues will start when the company's start. We are a holdings company.

Q: What is AISS current revenue Stream?
A: I really thought I just answered that.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
WE HAVE CONVERTED THE BONDS IN EUROPE TO 500 MIL DOLLARS IN CASH ACCOUNT

now that is huge...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
This makes me want to mortgage my house!!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
he sounds like either warren buffet or pt barnum...i'm praying the former....
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
"I just dropped in to say "Hey".

The main thing is everyone is looking for the 10K. 90% of those people are planning on selling after the 10K

We may halt it prior to releasing the 10K."

Stargate productions is the one that brought in "run by love" in Hungary. They are doing extremely well.

Rocket Road entertainment is a record label owned by a guy named Rock and his wife is Monica. Look em up and you'll find they are not small players.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
whew its over and im late for my auditions!!!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
good luck!
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Rufus: I must go, I have an appointment. I'll talk to you later.
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
Thanks Jo and everyone else that is posting whats going on!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Picked up another 10k at .79. Sweeeet!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so who's buying more?
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Now...on to the shorters...giving them 90-120 days...anyone have any idea what this will do for us?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea, thanks for posting all of that. I know its tough to keep up!

Well, good ole Rufus has me by the short hairs again! How can i sell after statements like those? [Smile]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I think my 44k will be enough for now. Thank you to all those that sold the last two days. You have allowed my dreams to become reality. No seriously.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
so who's buying more?

Ive been sitting on 7k shares forever. If it hits $15 im VERY happy. Thats a big enough gamble for me. [Smile]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Use your own mind people, don't listen to pump or bashers. THINK! How much clearer does this have to be. I think PR very soon and I'm READY! I hope they halt trading tomorrow!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rufus spoke very "matter-of-factly" it sounded good.
well the price picking up should reflect that.
STILL LONG and now I feel STRONG!!!
 
Posted by dyloli on :
 
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Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
The interview will be posted on ihub
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wow..... I have chills ~
Looks like this baby is going to fly! I'm in shock I think... LOL ~~~
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
This is going to explode! IMO
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
volume has picked up and almost nothing but buys for the last half hour or so....
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
i hope they wait till tomorrwo to halt this, i am transfering fund to pick up more... i love this stock. it has been a ride and it is not over yet..
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Can anyone explain how the hault will work? Can it be durning trading hours or will it just not open one of these AM's? and then is the new symbol instantly open?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Ya know this never REALLY sunk in before... -but I think we hit the "mutha" load!! ha ha ~

I'm SOOO trying not to PUMP, but I'm dancing on air right now! lol ~
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
If we can get over 90....I think this should close around 1.10.....Whatcha think chartwalker??
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
geez running up now... cant even fill if u put ur bid over the ask
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Ya know this never REALLY sunk in before... -but I think we hit the "mutha" load!! ha ha ~

I'm SOOO trying not to PUMP, but I'm dancing on air right now! lol ~

Haha! Well, ill tell you this. Ive been borderline SICK for over a week now knowing that this is probably the real thing....but skeptical with all the negativity. I would like to see the ticker open at $15 so can go ahead and lose my lunch and carry on!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
make that 95.... gotta get over that
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah yeah, .95
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
buying pressure is huge at the moment...I am reading that right, no?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I got more * 0.81 Wahoo!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Is that yeah yeah,,,,you agree...or yeah yeah as in whatever??
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i agree...was kinda playing around...as in keep raising that figure...

although NITE and VIEW are trying to pi$$ in our cheerios here...
 
Posted by hbomb on :
 
What the hell...I bought more at .89. We'll see what happens...if all pans out I'll get about 30K
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I put my order in right after reading BB comment on the Rufas PalTalk, went to heat up my Lo Mein noodles and egg rolls left over from last night. Came back to find my order filled and the Ask at .90. Nice. My fortune cookie last night said, "You will have a party."

It wasn't kidding.

TB
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Put the shares in hands of strong holders
 
Posted by DDA on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I put my order in right after reading BB comment on the Rufas PalTalk, went to heat up my Lo Mein noodles and egg rolls left over from last night. Came back to find my order filled and the Ask at .90. Nice. My fortune cookie last night said, "You will have a party."

It wasn't kidding.

TB

Nice. Tried to get in at 0.78, but when I cam back saw the pps at 0.92.

I don't have your fortune cookie.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
OK Gang!!! Chart is lookin real nice here,,,,Has to stay up here for a bit...I believe we just got past the first line of resistance.....gotta close that gap now
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
mnvestor, did you pick up more.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
c'mon dollar!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
mnvestor, did you pick up more.

Yes, earlier
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
L2 indicators are GREEN all the way up to 1.40!! looking good here!! people selling may not know whats happening!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
or they're taking 15-20% from earlier...
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
hey crab where in NOLA your located?
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Think we could see 2.00 today? Really, I guess it doesn't matter ....
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
gretna actually...

you?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
1.03+ would lock in the upswing,,,...Common biotch!!!
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
good ole boring overstocked cop city KENNER
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
here it comes...

and there it goes...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Gap closed ..... Two down ....common 1.03
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
its coming!!!!!!! 1.04 come on!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
3 down.....common 1.11
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Whooo Hooo..What a wonderful day!
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mathis:
hey crab where in NOLA your located?

Uptown Ruler
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
probably the craziest ride ever... good luck all and sorry for not being on earlier. limited internet access and i had to clean my underwear;)
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Again.....we held. How many crashes have we been through now? [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Again.....we held. How many crashes have we been through now? [Smile]

ENOUGH!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
enough, lol...
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
just about ALL the MM`s on the ask side are raising thier quotes!! all the way up to 1.93!!! and higher!!! and ARCA is still on at 99 bucks!! FWIW!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I knew it!! Love this! Thank you stock lemon for the cheap shares!!! LMAO!!!!!
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
high 1.10..seems as that interview REALLY helped out..it made me feel better
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
just about ALL the MM`s on the ask side are raising thier quotes!! all the way up to 1.93!!! and higher!!! and ARCA is still on at 99 bucks!! FWIW!!

where are you getting those L2's, i cant see that far.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i see it with Power ETrade...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
who the heck would flip now and risk being caught in the HALT?!! Are they nuts?!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Any bets what the EOD run will bring? LOL ~
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
who the heck would flip now and risk being caught in the HALT?!! Are they nuts?!!!

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
1.11 on deck...

woohoo!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
MM`s WILL let this run if sellers STOP selling!! shorts could be selling some at the bid to try and scare the price down! every sell now is just helping shorts cover!! lets make em pay!!!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
And there goes 1.11 heh
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
tThat 1.10 is a false wall....1.11+ is key...untill that is broken,, EOD tough to pick
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
This is more like it!!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
HA HA!!! Broke out before I could type it in....WOOOOHOOOOOOO
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
maumee where you see the next hiccup? 1.35 or so?
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Enentually you get juice from the SQUEEZE!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
1.14 OMG!!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
next significant resistance is at 1.32 range....COMMON BABY!!! we get thru that , I call 1.70 for close
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
next significant resistance is at 1.32 range....COMMON BABY!!! we get thru that , I call 1.70 for close

Sounds like you may be havin' some fun now? LOL
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Just dont put out any chicken or brownies for him. You know how that turns out! [Smile]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
I think it is the SHORTS selling below the bid to scare the price down! dont fall for it!!! let the shorts squirm!! as i said I believe MM`s will let this run!!! hang tight if you dare!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
traders-c o r n e r. com

Has a streaming banner running!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Damn MM's...It put a hole in that resistance level,,,,,,Should pop again when the games are done..
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
still got a ways to go to get even 10!!!

Not haven fun, Just fellin less RED
 
Posted by RichBy26 on :
 
wow this was down huge today then POP...how did this go from .72 to 1.14??? do we close higher or lower???
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
how?.... "RUFUS!!" - "RUFUS!!",,,,
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Damn you Fidelity... you are just showing me 1.05 for the price, and I can't see the gains that everyone is seeing. And they say that it is the real time quote. Aszess.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
Damn you Fidelity... you are just showing me 1.05 for the price, and I can't see the gains that everyone is seeing. And they say that it is the real time quote. Aszess.

It actually stabilized down where you are talking about....for now. Hey, shouldnt you be at work instead of sitting at home in your underwear?
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
Damn you Fidelity... you are just showing me 1.05 for the price, and I can't see the gains that everyone is seeing. And they say that it is the real time quote. Aszess.

It actually stabilized down where you are talking about....for now. Hey, shouldnt you be at work instead of sitting at home in your underwear?
I was sick last night, and felt terrible when I woke up. Thats why I am at home.

Anyways, how did you know that I was sitting in my underwear?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
Damn you Fidelity... you are just showing me 1.05 for the price, and I can't see the gains that everyone is seeing. And they say that it is the real time quote. Aszess.

It actually stabilized down where you are talking about....for now. Hey, shouldnt you be at work instead of sitting at home in your underwear?
I was sick last night, and felt terrible when I woke up. Thats why I am at home.

Anyways, how did you know that I was sitting in my underwear?

Well, thats easy. If i had called in today id be sitting at home in my underwear.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Looks good! I wish they would halt trading right now. I would LMAO! GLTA IN FHAL!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
IMO maybe we better start thinking about what to do if we find ourselves at $15 IPO day....

Rufus mentioned names and companies and challenged investors to look them up so they could see they are major players... (gulp!)

Didn't Google open at $100 IPO and double the same day (or something like that?!)

Now I heard on here talk about $30-$60 range short term and $200 in two years... Didn't Rufus say that?...

Any thoughts one way or the other?...
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
seeing buys go through for 10,12,15 even 16 grand! someone sees the potential here!!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, anyway, you better get dressed cuz your Mom will be home in an hour!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Man oh man are they workin this.....

Hopen for a EOD run to 1.28 now...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
IMO maybe we better start thinking about what to do if we find ourselves at $15 IPO day....

Rufus mentioned names and companies and challenged investors to look them up so they could see they are major players... (gulp!)

Didn't Google open at $100 IPO and double the same day (or something like that?!)

Now I heard on here talk about $30-$60 range short term and $200 in two years... Didn't Rufus say that?...

Any thoughts one way or the other?...

Yes, a lot of very big numbers have been thrown around. I fully intend to hold some shares regardless of what i do first day of trading after the merger. I would like to stick around and see just what this is all about
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
yeah, but what we believe to be the truth is out, even after that nasty bashing from those sites, how cool is that?
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Man oh man are they workin this.....

Hopen for a EOD run to 1.28 now...

They've been working this all week, and people freak out. Let'em do what they want their time to pay will be here soon(MM's) [Smile] . -Cassity
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
I love this link!

Things are happening as Rufus said... They've deleted CVSU off Pinksheets ("Non-OTCBB").

This is getting ready for this weekend's conversion!

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=07/27/2006&mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by atomictraders:
I love this link!

Things are happening as Rufus said... They've deleted CVSU off Pinksheets ("Non-OTCBB").

This is getting ready for this weekend's conversion!

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=07/27/2006&mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB

GOOD find!
 
Posted by mikehc27 on :
 
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=07/27/2006&mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB


cvsu deleted
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Oh no, I think Rufus might be following through with what he said, great DD fellas!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/filings.jsp?symbol=CVSU
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Oh no, I think Rufus might be following through with what he said, great DD fellas!

Ya think? Crazy ride, lots of fun.
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
It looks like Rufus is a straight shooter after all.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Things are checking out [Smile]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
hows the weather
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
10 you still in my friend?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
surf's up dude ~
 
Posted by MikeSC on :
 
Bah! I chased this jackrabbit from .78 to .93 to get my shares, and it's settling back down right around there.

Just glad I got in though. This may be the trade of the decade.

GLTA
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
The importance of CVSU.pk no longer existing is huge IMO...next step change to cvsu.ob, as planned
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
10 you still in my friend?

Yep...here till I see CVSU in my portfolio!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSC:
Bah! I chased this jackrabbit from .78 to .93 to get my shares, and it's settling back down right around there.

Just glad I got in though. This may be the trade of the decade.

GLTA

Going back to dollar land. MM's are trying to keep it down by increasing the gap between b&a. Things are coming together just like Rufus said, and it's going to be on heck of a ride.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
10 you still in my friend?

Yep...here till I see CVSU in my portfolio!
That's my girl! [Big Grin] [Wink]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Good post from IHUB!

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12287496
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
NITE, UBSS are some funny...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
"I strongly recommend that all shareholders calls for Hard copy certificates, due to FHAL near future name and symbol change," stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris.

-anyone going to do this?.....
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
"I strongly recommend that all shareholders calls for Hard copy certificates, due to FHAL near future name and symbol change," stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris.

-anyone going to do this?.....

My broker said you don't have to. Rufus was trying to find the shorters. JMO
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Just double checking... I know 10 has alot of kids [Smile]

Thanks.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Did someone leave the parking brake on around 1.00? [Smile]
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
If you want to help put the squeeze on the shorter, then get the certs, if you don't care, don't bother. But, the more ppl who get the shorts, the higher the pps is likely to go due to the squeeze effect
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Never did that before... How $$$ does it cost?
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
I'm happy the ********** thing happened, it's given many a chance to get in cheaper (myself included).
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Just double checking... I know 10 has alot of kids [Smile]

Thanks.

??? LOL...but I was also informed that I wouldn't need to do that...I am hopin' that it will be OK...
 
Posted by atomictraders on :
 
That was S T O C K L E M O N
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Is it normal to see "Market Cap" and "Total shares outstanding" be completely equal? And, if so...what does this mean? Im new at this but its something i havent seen before

Thats where fhal stands currently

edit : Hmmm....maybe a dumb questions. Is this only because the value is at $1?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
With the certs... I'm just trying to dot every i and cross every T [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Heh, geez that was one of the biggest newb questions i could have asked. Its quite clear to me now. Cut me some slack, i havent slept much lately and i think ive skipped dinner all week. [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
and what the heck happened to IGAI today? Up 1000%?? $1000 this morning would be worth $1 MILLION $$$ Good God!

What broughtthis on, anyone up on that?
 
Posted by mikehc27 on :
 
earnings came out after close yesterday
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Hello..new to thread but followed this board all week..you have been very helpful with the DD.

One question.. why are the major houses like AG Edwards refusing to trade this stock? They must think it's sketchy. My boy tried to get in on this and they told him that they are banning it from trades.... interesting.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wow, hope Rufus has something like that up his sleeve!
 
Posted by mikehc27 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
and what the heck happened to IGAI today? Up 1000%?? $1000 this morning would be worth $1 MILLION $$$ Good God!

What broughtthis on, anyone up on that?

You almaost made me lose my lunch.I could'nt get in under 2 cent at so I didnt.Then the ****er runs until 1 pm
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
edit
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
chartwalker only $10000 not a mil..lol
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
that would suck Mike.... omg ~
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
$1000 X 1000% -are YOU sure?... lol ~
Who gives a darn, that's a BOAT LOAD!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
my head is spinning from all this yet... Please ignore me [Smile] This will be my biggest trade to date, just happy !
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
back to see good stuff!!right on!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I was thinking that some of these major houses aren't letting their clients trade cuz they are shorting... what ya think?
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
yeah only $10,000 not a million, but still nice profit, but hey i like your math, invest in fhal at $1 then when it goes to $15 dollars that is 1500% and $1000 would be worth 1.5 million,
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mikehc27:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
and what the heck happened to IGAI today? Up 1000%?? $1000 this morning would be worth $1 MILLION $$$ Good God!

What broughtthis on, anyone up on that?

You almaost made me lose my lunch.I could'nt get in under 2 cent at so I didnt.Then the ****er runs until 1 pm
a grand in this at open would be 10 grand at 1000% not a million! LOL!! still nice!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
good thing I chart and not balance a check book! LMAO!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
edit

[ July 27, 2006, 15:29: Message edited by: CRab ]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
man and I am trying to learn from you guys???
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
$1000 X 1000% -are YOU sure?... lol ~
Who gives a darn, that's a BOAT LOAD!!

$1000 x 1000% = $1000 x 10 = $10,000
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
It's Miller time ~ Catch ya all later [Smile]
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Hello..new to thread but followed this board all week..you have been very helpful with the DD.

One question.. why are the major houses like AG Edwards refusing to trade this stock? They must think it's sketchy. My boy tried to get in on this and they told him that they are banning it from trades.... interesting.

Better check again, I know people who work for them and have bought themselves, GLTY and your son, are you sure their is money in the account
 
Posted by dog on :
 
My friend just called his broker...tried to trade from a fully funded account...they said they will not trade the stock
 
Posted by dog on :
 
they may be crooked too.... shortin shortin
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Hello..new to thread but followed this board all week..you have been very helpful with the DD.

One question.. why are the major houses like AG Edwards refusing to trade this stock? They must think it's sketchy. My boy tried to get in on this and they told him that they are banning it from trades.... interesting.

What other "major" houses are not allowing peeps to buy?
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
as we move into the last 15 minutes of trading, what do the L2s look like?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
1.02 x 1.025 2 x 2
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
they suck...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
You know what suks is the fact that we dropped like a rock, went up like a rocket and will close even. I have never seen this.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
no one has ever seen any of this...

well other than the people sticking with the scam story...they've seen it a million times...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
With the certs thing...do you think that Rufas is suggesting that "we get them" so to slow the "mad" ruch of selling at open?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
With the certs thing...do you think that Rufas is suggesting that "we get them" so to slow the "mad" ruch of selling at open?

Without a doubt.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
it's a possibility...but according to him this afternoon he doesn't really care what we do...at this point all of this is irrelevant...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Someone snuck a 1.03 in at the bell.... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
anyone else see that last .01 up after the bell?
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Someone snuck a 1.03 in at the bell.... [Big Grin]

yeeep i saw it too
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Looking forward to tomorrow....
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Somebody is waaaayy short on this. Tried to move 40 k shares at 1.03 ...noone bit. This thing IS crazy. Somebody is real intent on keeping this stock down...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so...a .99% gain today...hurrah...
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
well, I have to admit that after the first 15 minutes this morning I would never have guessed that we'd finish with a green day!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
What's on tap tomorrow... you think they will change symbol tonight and hold trades tomorrow?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
lol...any answer would be a guess...
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
all our shares are going to be restricted, Rufus is going to yacht and put FHAL=PWNED on the side of it lol
j/k
tomorrow we are going to see some freaky stuff. 28th to the 1st he said...I guess tomorrow is a "big" day
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah...he's flying down here...and we are sailing out of the lake into the gulf...then off to Cuba...

we're picking up one of those new Trinity bohemoths tomorrow afternoon...
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
i hope Rufus REALLY has insitutions to buy his stock at the 15s level..if we are unable to sell at the dollar prices...id be very concerned what the outcome would be
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I t has to go higher than the current prices... as long as I'm in the positive...it's all good. We all have our hopes up though.... could there be a few new millionaires in the club? If this hits lets find someplace warm with a lot of cold drinks and give the heart a rest... this has been the craziest ride ever.
If it does hit... check out e-bay for my T-Shirt
"I Love Rufus"
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
I t has to go higher than the current prices... as long as I'm in the positive...it's all good. We all have our hopes up though.... could there be a few new millionaires in the club? If this hits lets find someplace warm with a lot of cold drinks and give the heart a rest... this has been the craziest ride ever.
If it does hit... check out e-bay for my T-Shirt
"I Love Rufus"

If it hit, I would buy one for sure!
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
I believe I would have "I Love Rufus" on my shirt AND the seat of my pants....
 
Posted by dog on :
 
More like on a jock strap.. for the b**** of steel!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Hello..new to thread but followed this board all week..you have been very helpful with the DD.

One question.. why are the major houses like AG Edwards refusing to trade this stock? They must think it's sketchy. My boy tried to get in on this and they told him that they are banning it from trades.... interesting.

What other "major" houses are not allowing peeps to buy?
Bump
 
Posted by dog on :
 
This is second hand information from a friend I tried to tip off about this stock. His broker at AG Edwards office (large one in Ann Arbor, MI) told him that they are not allowed to trade any of this stock, as it has been banned and is on their "Do Not Trade" list because their research has led them to believe that this stock is not valid and pending Government action could jeopardize their clients, money. According to his broker...most "reputable" houses are not trading this stock. But this could be horses***. Does not change the way I feel about this stock. At this point.. I'm all in. I've done the DD.. its seems tight... if your in now... your in til the end. The rumor mill could make the knees weak and some will miss out on this opportunity, but we all should not be buying shares with money we can't afford to lose. The shorters today are in deep. It stayed within 5 cents pretty much all day.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
An earlier post stated that someone else had no problem accessing this stock at their brokerage house.
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
My mother works at Edward Jones, and I will have her ask the owner of one of the three branch offices in Northville what the offical take on the stock is. I should have some answers to that sometime tomorrow, midmorning, hopefully before the market opens. To see if there are any restrictions, or at least coming from them.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
We have heard no warnings or intervention by the SEC, CVSU has made good on all deals and promises with their ventures within the last year, if this was a scam... there would be more interest by the powers that be... not just bashers with a long track record of stock manipulation.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
"My mother works at Edward Jones, and I will have her ask the owner of one of the three branch offices in Northville what the offical take on the stock is. I should have some answers to that sometime tomorrow, midmorning, hopefully before the market opens. To see if there are any restrictions, or at least coming from them."

Very good idea... but does it really matter by tomorrow? The rumors are going to be at a fever pitch... definitely a Freaky Friday in the works.

In the end trust yer gut.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Just an FYI. A colleague of mine just spoke with a guy at Etrade regarding the merger situation and he gave us a bit of news. This guy has actually looked into FHAL for us before and has been watching it since, nice guy. Annnnnnnyway, he said that it looks like a few people sold out about 75000 registered shares today. He said it didnt look like insider trading, just registered shares. I remember earlier someone posted a list of a few people that were "managing" some shares so i wonder if that was them. Can anyone verify this? I wont be on the PC tonight, i need a night off BADLY. I just wanted to drop in and bring this to everyones attention.

Good night! [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 

 
Posted by CRab on :
 
here it is...

quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
hey guys did anyone else see the 144's filed last night around 10:30ish? forms to sell restricted FHAL shares...totally 270k shares...

for:

John & Raimey Martin
William David Kirk
Morris Durce
Greg Aslinger

sorry for the interuption...just saw them on my E*Trade news box...


 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Just spoke with AG Edwards in Ann Arbor Michigan -only accepting sells on shares purchased through AG Edwards, no buys at this point are allowed.
734-663-0541
800-866-0541


Who wears short shorts........ [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
Just spoke with AG Edwards in Ann Arbor Michigan -only accepting sells on shares purchased through AG Edwards, no buys at this point are allowed.
734-663-0541
800-866-0541


Who wears short shorts........ [Big Grin]

Wow, if thats not showin your shorts i dont know what is!! Is it normal for brokerages like this to start bailing out of certain stocks?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
here it is...

quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
hey guys did anyone else see the 144's filed last night around 10:30ish? forms to sell restricted FHAL shares...totally 270k shares...

for:

John & Raimey Martin
William David Kirk
Morris Durce
Greg Aslinger

sorry for the interuption...just saw them on my E*Trade news box...


So they FILED 144's but it doesnt say they sold them. Do you think they are just getting prepared for the merger date? I think this was briefly discussed but NOW it finally caught my attention!! [Smile]
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
(Wearing dunce hat...) Help the newbie translate please...I'm holding...a small amount compared to most, but holding....
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Could be, dunno at this point but it would make sense if they need shares. Or they think it's a scam and won't let their clients buy em.


Those 144's 2 were filed on 7-20-6 and the other 2 on 7-24-6 if I remember right.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
(Wearing dunce hat...) Help the newbie translate please...I'm holding...a small amount compared to most, but holding....

Form 144:

This form must be filed as notice of the proposed sale of restricted securities or securities held by an affiliate of the issuer in reliance on Rule 144 when the amount to be sold during any three month period exceeds 500 shares or units or has an aggregate sales price in excess of $10,000.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
actually three were on the twentieth and one on the 24th...

it doesn't necessarily mean they are sold...

why are the filing date from days ago but they were only posted last night?

nevermind...i bet those were the submission dates and last night they were accepted...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Ahhh, maybe they are just getting ready then. Getting ready to BANK by the sounds of it. 270000 shares among the 4? heh
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
I just don't see AG Edwards being the father figure and protecting their investors....you don't see brokerage houses running to the rescue of people who lose money day in and day out...if they thought it was a scam, they would have restricted to sells only sooner....wouldn't you think?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so is this the beginning of the squeeze...AG Edwards then the rest fall?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
so is this the beginning of the squeeze...AG Edwards then the rest fall?

Bah they wont reach a cool mil then...they gonna fall short. [Smile]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
ruh roh!

sounds like AG Edwards is in a bit of a pickle.

it all comes down to one question in my mind:

why would the SEC accept filings and continue with paperwork from a company that was a suspected scam?

surely if a brokerage house reported it the SEC would start an investigation?

...and they havent [Wink]

the cvsu symbol change today is all in line with the IRS code section 368 we've been discussing...

merger then sub merger, ie cvsu.pk to fhal.ob to cvsu.ob

well theres no chance i can watch/trade/be online tomorrow, so it's all in fate's hands for me. [Cool]

~BB
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
AG Edwards mm symbol AGED - anybody seem them today? I did not have much time to watch.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well..........BB......how did it go today?

This is pretty much in fates hands for me too. There is no way i can sell the shares, im simply incapable LOL. I just hope we only have a few more days, or AT LEAST get good news in the morning.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
ruh roh!

sounds like AG Edwards is in a bit of a pickle.

it all comes down to one question in my mind:

why would the SEC accept filings and continue with paperwork from a company that was a suspected scam?

surely if a brokerage house reported it the SEC would start an investigation?

...and they havent [Wink]

the cvsu symbol change today is all in line with the IRS code section 368 we've been discussing...

merger then sub merger, ie cvsu.pk to fhal.ob to cvsu.ob

well theres no chance i can watch/trade/be online tomorrow, so it's all in fate's hands for me. [Cool]

~BB

Babe, typically (not always, of course) when brokerages (finally) start realizing a given issue has problems, they will start restricting buys, sells--or both. That's a strong clue to SEC suspension may be pending. "We" can't tell when SEC has begun investigation, or necessarily even when it's ended.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
ruh roh!

sounds like AG Edwards is in a bit of a pickle.

it all comes down to one question in my mind:

why would the SEC accept filings and continue with paperwork from a company that was a suspected scam?

surely if a brokerage house reported it the SEC would start an investigation?

...and they havent [Wink]

the cvsu symbol change today is all in line with the IRS code section 368 we've been discussing...

merger then sub merger, ie cvsu.pk to fhal.ob to cvsu.ob

well theres no chance i can watch/trade/be online tomorrow, so it's all in fate's hands for me. [Cool]

~BB

Babe, typically (not always, of course) when brokerages (finally) start realizing a given issue has problems, they will start restricting buys, sells--or both. That's a strong clue to SEC suspension may be pending. "We" can't tell when SEC has begun investigation, or necessarily even when it's ended.
You break my heart a lot Tex. You like to just get right to the point. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
really Tex? but wouldnt the other brokerage houses do the same, ie TDAm / Etrd etc?

why just one?

is there any other reason u can think of why theyd do it?

thx.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I'll call Etrade in the morning and prod the question around a bit. Maybe some of them are lagging behind? An SEC investigation would just be the icing on the fhal cake.

Im gonna just believe that they are shorted....that sounds better. [Smile]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
lol, CE... not alluding any reference to this play necessarily, simply responding to this in general:

quote:
why would the SEC accept filings and continue with paperwork from a company that was a suspected scam?

surely if a brokerage house reported it the SEC would start an investigation?

If SEC gonna do sumpin' ? They'll hand out the rope, if you follow me. "File away, bro..."

Brokerages unlikely to scream until they're upside down on a buy-in...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
really Tex? but wouldnt the other brokerage houses do the same, ie TDAm / Etrd etc?

why just one?

is there any other reason u can think of why theyd do it?

thx.

Babe? dunno...was not responding to a "thread-specific" item--just got here... will be skimming the thread, but any "updates" appreciated...

be back in a few...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Interesting. This has been a heck of a stock to cut my teeth on. Im thankful for the experience but im not sure its a hobby i could handle for long. Maybe like skydiving or bull fighting instead, something a little safer ya know?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Interesting. This has been a heck of a stock to cut my teeth on. Im thankful for the experience but im not sure its a hobby i could handle for long. Maybe like skydiving or bull fighting instead, something a little safer ya know?

lol, read the GVRP thread, sometime [Eek!]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Now why'd ya have to go and say that. Now i have to go read it...........
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
TEX ill just wait for your feedback once u read.

the issue starts with Dog's posts around pg 176 (he only has 12 total, they arent hard to find)


i think either it is due to the symbol change beginning or a shorting issue.

~BB
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Glad to see I added a little info for thought on my first time out...good follow ups guys...and someone even called the office in Ann Arbor... excellent.

I'm gonna go with the SHORT explanation. Look..

AG Edwards is saying.....
We are only selling FHAL if you bought it thru us,
which, they thru subsidiary could purchase to cover shorts.
We will also let people we don't do business with sell their shares....

Hmmmm selling okay, buying no good on a stock that likely won't drop any less than it is now...

No other brokerage that we know of is restricting buys?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
TEX ill just wait for your feedback once u read.

the issue starts with Dog's posts around pg 176 (he only has 12 total, they arent hard to find)


i think either it is due to the symbol change beginning or a shorting issue.

~BB

Babe, that'll work...'ppreciate it...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
OK, read it...

My quick take--just me, only mine --is "Edward" *sounds* more like the houses who screwed up on JPHC/PAIV, instead of those who started shutting down GVAP, BCIT etc before a suspension.

HOWEVER, is something to pay attention to...if you (anybody) has a network of friends with brokers other than yours? Good time to revisit your "buddy list." A good service could be provided by those with large positions, large amounts free shares: try "test sells" and "test buys" periodically throughout the day...

Oh--and post the results, lol
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
here it is...

quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
hey guys did anyone else see the 144's filed last night around 10:30ish? forms to sell restricted FHAL shares...totally 270k shares...

for:

John & Raimey Martin
William David Kirk
Morris Durce
Greg Aslinger

sorry for the interuption...just saw them on my E*Trade news box...


I've googled myself [Embarrassed] (sounds more fun than it is.) I'm just a little nobody hometown teacher and i get at least 4 different web hits on me. I google these guys and nothing! At least nothing on the first three. on the fourth guy I got a hit but it might not even be the same person might just be same name. I was just wondering who would have restristed shares....
http://www.uniflight.com/aboutuniflight.html
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Green?

PM please, like to know your position, per googling... [Razz]
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Position was long and holding (for those of you with dirty minds, I'm female)

My position after the scary day today is more like wait and see with my finger on the button...
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
I'm trying to understand this situation and RM's in general and came across this...maybe old news to most, but adds credibility for me.

Here are some high-profile and successful RTOs (reverse take-over):

Armand Hammer, world renowned oil magnate and industrialist, is generally credited with having invented the "Reverse Merger". In the 1950s, Hammer invested in a shell company into which he merged multi decade winner Occidental Petroleum.
In 1970 Ted Turner completed a reverse merger with Rice Broadcasting, which went on to become Turner Broadcasting.
In 1996, Muriel Siebert, renown as the first woman member of the New York Stock Exchange, took her brokerage firm public by reverse merging with J. Michaels, a defunct Brooklyn Furniture company.
One of the Dot Com fallen Angels, Rare Medium (RRRR), merged with a lackluster refrigeration company and changed the entire business. This was a $2 stock in 1998 which found its way over $90 in 2000.
Acclaim Entertainment (AKLM) merged into non operating Tele-Communications Inc in 1994.

http://invest-faq.com/articles/stock-reverse-merger.html
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
OK, read it...

My quick take--just me, only mine --is "Edward" *sounds* more like the houses who screwed up on JPHC/PAIV, instead of those who started shutting down GVAP, BCIT etc before a suspension.

HOWEVER, is something to pay attention to...if you (anybody) has a network of friends with brokers other than yours? Good time to revisit your "buddy list." A good service could be provided by those with large positions, large amounts free shares: try "test sells" and "test buys" periodically throughout the day...

Oh--and post the results, lol

I REALLY HOPE you are right! Maybe I am very nieve, but I can't see a house as reputable as Edwards screwing up and not playing safer. Does that happen often?
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Sandusky - good stuff!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
I'm trying to understand this situation and RM's in general and came across this...maybe old news to most, but adds credibility for me.

Here are some high-profile and successful RTOs (reverse take-over):

Armand Hammer, world renowned oil magnate and industrialist, is generally credited with having invented the "Reverse Merger". In the 1950s, Hammer invested in a shell company into which he merged multi decade winner Occidental Petroleum.
In 1970 Ted Turner completed a reverse merger with Rice Broadcasting, which went on to become Turner Broadcasting.
In 1996, Muriel Siebert, renown as the first woman member of the New York Stock Exchange, took her brokerage firm public by reverse merging with J. Michaels, a defunct Brooklyn Furniture company.
One of the Dot Com fallen Angels, Rare Medium (RRRR), merged with a lackluster refrigeration company and changed the entire business. This was a $2 stock in 1998 which found its way over $90 in 2000.
Acclaim Entertainment (AKLM) merged into non operating Tele-Communications Inc in 1994.

http://invest-faq.com/articles/stock-reverse-merger.html

That *is* famous info re r/m's ... no doubt rm's can be very lucrative...

however, those are *standard* rm's, as far I as know...nothing to do with "368-play"
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Here is a post from IHUB. Yes that is Rufus Paul Harris the CEO. I think if he was worried about the SEC, that he would be spending much time on IHUB. (not sure why I spend time on IHUB for that matter, there are some serious jacka$$e$ over there.) My friends this is my opinion,buy, sell, hold, do it on your own DD. I hope for great things for those of us who stay. -Cassity


Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris
In reply to: mingus79 who wrote msg# 18396 Date:7/27/2006 8:27:42 PM
Post #of 18578

mingus79;

You Sir I was going to give the benefit of a doubt, until you posted a lie. (There is no such thing. NO ONE ever sets the price,).

All IPO’s are set and agreed to prior.

Man oh Man, I am sorry for the posters who have to read this kind of BS, all day.

I told you they would only get worst.

GODSPEED, shareholders and hold tight to your shares.

Rufus Paul Harris
Chairman & CEO
Conversion Solutions, Inc.
(OTC BB: FHAL)
125 TownPark Dr. Suite 300
Kennesaw, Georgia 30144
Office: 770-420-8270
Cell: 678-255-7650
 
Posted by SuperSniper00 on :
 
isnt that against some sort of law to be puttin out info on a message board if you are a CEO?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
i truly do not believe the ceo is posting on ihub.

credentials? its a bunch of hubub over there. [Wink]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SuperSniper00:
isnt that against some sort of law to be puttin out info on a message board if you are a CEO?

*anyone* connected _should_ at least have a disclaimer...

seriously? not aware of any penny in trouble for doing so.

Simply points to lack of "game" re SEC's part...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
TEX, i found a few that ARE reverse mergers that were structured using 368
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
here's another one that seems to have benefitted by the same R/M exploitation of section 386


TSCM: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=tscm

reverse merged into Security Intelligence Technologies, Inc. (formerly known as HipStyle.com, Inc.)(par value .0001)

http://www.tscm.com/CCSTanks/2002.04.26-SC13D.htm

interesting statement:
The Merger was consummated so that the Issuer will have on a consolidated basis an operating entity, and CCS will have the opportunities available to public companies.

kinda like this here transaction yes?

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
didnt anyone do homework with me on reorganization within the meaning of Section 368 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986??! heah. [Wink]

well here's what i found, could use more input.

JNPR - another company that did this exact same kind of 368 restructuring. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=jnpr

Bought Micro Magic, par value .00001

http://contracts.corporate.findlaw.com/agreements/juniper/micro.mer.2000.11.27.h tml

im wondering if Rufus actually is really smart, and is just exploiting a loophole.
a lot of articles say that 386 needs to be closed. maybe he's just taking advantage of its being there?

Kind of like accountants like to find legitimate loopholes to show their prowess.

~BB


quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
im reading:

http://www.vcinstitute.org/bookstore/exitingmushkin.html

and
http://www.orrick.com/publications/index.asp?action=article&articleID=233

because they seem pertinent but im still seeing if the actually are.. thought id share.

kinda like homework.

~BB

[edited: add link]
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
I'm trying to understand this situation and RM's in general and came across this...maybe old news to most, but adds credibility for me.

Here are some high-profile and successful RTOs (reverse take-over):

Armand Hammer, world renowned oil magnate and industrialist, is generally credited with having invented the "Reverse Merger". In the 1950s, Hammer invested in a shell company into which he merged multi decade winner Occidental Petroleum.
In 1970 Ted Turner completed a reverse merger with Rice Broadcasting, which went on to become Turner Broadcasting.
In 1996, Muriel Siebert, renown as the first woman member of the New York Stock Exchange, took her brokerage firm public by reverse merging with J. Michaels, a defunct Brooklyn Furniture company.
One of the Dot Com fallen Angels, Rare Medium (RRRR), merged with a lackluster refrigeration company and changed the entire business. This was a $2 stock in 1998 which found its way over $90 in 2000.
Acclaim Entertainment (AKLM) merged into non operating Tele-Communications Inc in 1994.

http://invest-faq.com/articles/stock-reverse-merger.html

That *is* famous info re r/m's ... no doubt rm's can be very lucrative...

however, those are *standard* rm's, as far I as know...nothing to do with "368-play"


 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i truly do not believe the ceo is posting on ihub.

credentials? its a bunch of hubub over there. [Wink]

I read IHUB but never post, this has been verfied by the moderator. Take it for what it's worth. Nothing in that post is insider information. Just standing up for himself and his company. [Smile]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
heheah! read the posts. they are so NOT the ceo.

have you registered for ihub? what credentials? i could register as ANYBODY.

rufus uses the term LOL?

i. dont. think. so.

~BB
-----------------------

...for instance the latest post:

An Answer to your question;

There is only one thing that I enjoy more that taking a few minutes out of each day to stand as the light house as you bash the shore line;

Is after I have set you up; is to attended your Bankruptcy sale, buy your house and give it to the local league of Battered Women.

GODSPEED

Rufus Paul Harris

--> hoo yeah, that's grammar for ya kids. i. dont. think. so [Wink]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
My next ex-wife posts: "TEX, i found a few that ARE reverse mergers that were structured using 368
~BB"

lol...

BABE! atta grrrl...

please post!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
not that in couple of days or for sure over the weekend,,will it matter if it really is Rufus!!but would be kind nice to know FOR SURE especially when we get really rolling after new ticker change!!i listened to Rufus today on the interview,,,and i'm more long then ever!!and buying more and more!!
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
heheah! read the posts. they are so NOT the ceo.

have you registered for ihub? what credentials? i could register as ANYBODY.

rufus uses the term LOL?

i. dont. think. so.

~BB

Go read post 18697, follow the trail and let me know what you think. [Wink]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
? cassity? thats the horse business? i dont get it whats ur point i visited that link days ago?

follow the horse trail? [Big Grin]

~BB
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
i think a CEO has better to do than sign up on a pump site filled with idiots and post...he is saying they will "punish" bashers...so u think he will turn arround and be a pumper ? lol...come on be logic.
 
Posted by 66inxs on :
 
bb to me section 368 reads as a way to structure a reorganization so that the acquiring company does not have to recognize a gain or loss for tax purposes, and thus resets the pps on the acquiring companies books to equal the audited net assets of the acquiring company.

good dd btw. this was supposed to be a short squeeze play that did not appear on the short list and never materialized. shorts were spooked jumped out but today's interview restored confidence and people jumple jumped back in ihmo.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
i truly do not believe the ceo is posting on ihub.

credentials? its a bunch of hubub over there. [Wink]

I kinda believe its him. The only way it would continue is if he flat out doesnt know its happening. There is so much conversation with Rufus and EVERY shareholder that i think someone would have asked. This is just my opion of course, i thought on the subject myself however.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
TEX, i did post them... in bold right below my post i quoted myself so i didnt need to retype.

JNPR and TSCM. i found quite a few, but those were two very good examples.

~BB
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:

if the stock was at 1.75 rite now you'd have a NASDAQ stock. everything is in place. the filings are in place.

nobody really touched base on this... did he just hint that we need to get this to 1.75 and we make nasdaq???
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
TEX, i did post them... in bold right below my post i quoted myself so i didnt need to retype.

JNPR and TSCM. i found quite a few, but those were two very good examples.

~BB

[Embarrassed]

excellent...appreciate your work--will defintely check that.

thanks, babe

--tex
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
heheah! read the posts. they are so NOT the ceo.

have you registered for ihub? what credentials? i could register as ANYBODY.

rufus uses the term LOL?

i. dont. think. so.

~BB

Go read post 18697, follow the trail and let me know what you think. [Wink]
What, a grown horse that was born today? [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Oh haha yea. Didnt he say he wanted to retire and raise horses?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
the old cvsu.pk should be a deleted ticker now correct. That leaves it open for the name change?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
no he downright said that if we were at 1.75 rite now, with the filings that they have completed we would BE on nasdaq.
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:

if the stock was at 1.75 rite now you'd have a NASDAQ stock. everything is in place. the filings are in place.

nobody really touched base on this... did he just hint that we need to get this to 1.75 and we make nasdaq???

 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Wow, he has his hands on some nice horses. Check this one out.

http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-25737

Sorry, id be more on topic but i missed the entire interview. Were they planning an mp3 for it?
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
One of the horses was described as "built like a brick crap house". If that isn't the nicest way of saying a Southern expression, I can't think what would be. Just imagine Rufus saying that about one of his horses.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
catia - i quoted a lot of the interview while it was going on. thought id test my typing skills [Wink]

if it has quotes around it, it is a direct quote while he was speaking.

didjya notice that rufus has all the expen$ive horses?

im off for the nite. my 430am call time comes a-callin quickly, ugh.

good luck tomorrow everyone! someone email my phone if anything drastic happens (hopefully drastically good!)
[Big Grin] pp mobile at paulapatrice dot com

thx!

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Wow, he has his hands on some nice horses. Check this one out.

http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-25737

Sorry, id be more on topic but i missed the entire interview. Were they planning an mp3 for it?


 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
no he downright said that if we were at 1.75 rite now, with the filings that they have completed we would BE on nasdaq.
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:

if the stock was at 1.75 rite now you'd have a NASDAQ stock. everything is in place. the filings are in place.

nobody really touched base on this... did he just hint that we need to get this to 1.75 and we make nasdaq???

Small correction here BB I read your post earlier but listened to the posted interview on t r a d e r s - c o r n e r and he did say 1.75, but he said what I would have expected from NASDAQ which is a "sustained" price per share of $1.75. Making it to $1.75 is not enough it has to clear it and stay above. [Wink]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
no TaxBack, i relistened and i am correct... [Razz]

part 4, beginning 1:28

"let me give you a little example ladies and gentlemen... we got a response back, we as of right now, if we were trading at a buck seventy-five we'd qualitfy for nasdaq and could move to the nasdaq.
Everything is in place, all documents are filed, and if this stock was at a dollar seventy five you'd have a nasdaq stock. yes were on target, yes everything is excellent, nothing has changed just because some little frauds went out and posted stuff on **********s and people got a little scared.
im trying to tell everyone that this is a volatile market, be careful. dont buy this crap.

end at 3:00

at least that's the section that i was quoting in my original post.

really now, gnite all!

~BB
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Posted by: larice (ON I-HUB)
In reply to: bluediamonds who wrote msg# 18388 Date:7/27/2006 10:52:16 PM
Post #of 18868

Thank you for this good bullish info from SEC Bluediamond

Posted by: bluediamonds
In reply to: mingus79 who wrote msg# 18362
Date:7/27/2006 8:04:39 PM
Post #of 18853

SEC SAID YES $1 to $15 POSSIBLE.

(According to the caller below, FWIW).

Posted by: ced70
In reply to: None Date:7/27/2006 4:22:04 PM
Post #of 18142

READ THIS BASHERS!!!

Just to let you know I just got off the phone with the SEC. For the idiots that is Securities and Exchange Commission. I explained the whole deal of the R/M and even stated both symbols (FHAL and CVSU) one private and one public. I stated that the CEO said even if FHAL is trading at 1 dollar at the time of the halt that it would reopen under a different symbol (CVSU) at 15 dollars a share on a 1 to 1 RATIO. I asked him is this possible and is this legal?

HE STATED....YES!!

I would give you the number to the SEC but that would make it too easy for the bashers. Look it up yourself.

So shut up about it being illegal. Have a good day.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
good stuff, SYGY . . . let's hope it's not BS
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Posted by: kastrtroi(heres another GOOD ONE)
In reply to: None Date:7/27/2006 10:55:06 PM
Post #of 18881

Ok, so I guess everyone knows this already, but I will post it anyway.

Here is the link to the SEC filings for Fronthaul and Conversion Solutions.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/757563/000129707706000046/0001297077-06-0 00046-index.htm

When the filing is complete, there will be a link inside the first HTML page saying "Notice of Effectiveness". Until this is posted, it isnt effective. The SEC regualtions says 15 days from filing. IT was filed with them on the 12, so, that is the 27th (today). But, SEC is always one day behind in posting Effectivenss. So, it may be there tomorrow.

Oh yeah, BTW, Please Note .... This paperwork was file by Furia, not FHAL or CVSU. So, if you have been looking for the paperwork, you wouldnt find it.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Posted by: larice
In reply to: kastrtroi who wrote msg# 18860 Date:7/27/2006 11:12:54 PM
Post #of 18894

Good post , kastrtroi, many here need to see this filing inside

it was dated the 8th of July, as offered by one party
then signed on the 11th by second party
and filed on 12th with SEC

title is MERGER AGREEMENT signed JuLY 11 filed SEC JULY 12

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/757563/000129707706000046/0001297077-06-0 00046-index.htm
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I've really enjoyed this board... you do your homework and give credible ideas with references. Much better than the ihub.
Didn't Rufus confirm that he regular participated in the ihub forum? I thought he did.

Anyways.... g'nite and good luck

I'm goin down with the slip, I have a feeling we will find out who's right tomorrow. $weet dreams.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060626/0139035.html
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
ruh roh!

sounds like AG Edwards is in a bit of a pickle.

it all comes down to one question in my mind:

why would the SEC accept filings and continue with paperwork from a company that was a suspected scam?

surely if a brokerage house reported it the SEC would start an investigation?

...and they havent [Wink]

the cvsu symbol change today is all in line with the IRS code section 368 we've been discussing...

merger then sub merger, ie cvsu.pk to fhal.ob to cvsu.ob

well theres no chance i can watch/trade/be online tomorrow, so it's all in fate's hands for me. [Cool]

~BB

Babe, typically (not always, of course) when brokerages (finally) start realizing a given issue has problems, they will start restricting buys, sells--or both. That's a strong clue to SEC suspension may be pending. "We" can't tell when SEC has begun investigation, or necessarily even when it's ended.
I had this happen with Scottrade on a number of stocks in the past. Where they would allow sells only and no buys. I think BKMP was one and also months ago IVOC. When I saw IVOC on the list I sold fearing the worst. That was when they were trading at .0008. Lo and Behold shortly there after the stock PPS ran up. They did later do a R/S but have also spun off 3 SUBS as dividends. They have done pretty well. My understanding from a branch manager was that they would do this at times because of getting too many FTD's (Failure to Delivers). Both companies are now selling on Scottrade with no restrictions at this time.

Now it could be as you stated something is comming down or it could be as many have been speculating that there is a huge short position and the FTD's have gotten completely out of hand. Only time will tell.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
thx wally, that makes me feel MUCH better.

well, filings are there. cross fingers and hope for a great day!

happy friday y'all [Smile]

~BB
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
good luck to all today! i wont be able to see anything that goes on..but lets hope for the best!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Good morning all!!

I want everyone to promise that money will never change things between us here today.. hehe

Good Luck!
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
Well, today is going to be fun. GLTA, i will be here all day
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Howdy board, GLTA!!

Thanks again to everyone who did D & D and helped in times of doubt. May all your orders be filled ~

Peace
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I haven't posted here that often. I am a long share holder. I just wanted to give you guys your Kudos for great work and mostly keeping a level head. Ihub has gotten rediculous. It's to bad there are some really good people over there as well. GLTA
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Good morning all!!

I want everyone to promise that money will never change things between us here today.. hehe

Good Luck!

Hah, ok i promise. It WILL change me, but it wont change anything between us here. [Smile]
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Good morning all you ambitious people!

I was thinking (didn't hurt too much) that, maybe Rufus will let the 10k out to help support the $15 pps. He said yesterday he was not concerned with the current pricing.
 
Posted by liquidmetal on :
 
Alright I just lost alot on another stock I am going to double down on FHAL this morning. I hope everyone on this message board is right....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
hot stockmarket . com/forums/showthread.php?t=40506

Take the spaces out, YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS!!! LMAO!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
Alright I just lost alot on another stock I am going to double down on FHAL this morning. I hope everyone on this message board is right....

This may all turn out OK..BUT you buy because YOU did DD..and not because of the BS on the board...
GLTY!
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Rufus was pointedly nonspecific when it came to saying when the 10k would come out. I believe he mentioned it trading may halt first. GLTA ... happy Friday!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
if you type cvsu into yahoo finance. It's now an invalid symbol. That frees the symbol up to so fhal can become cvsu.ob IMO
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
morning!!
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Love that post chartwalker!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
No early trades today...wonder why?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
 -
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
hot stockmarket . com/forums/showthread.php?t=40506

Take the spaces out, YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS!!! LMAO!!!

=============================================
OMG we laughed at that! Even says $15!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
can you post that here chart ?
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
First early trade in at .98
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Maybe all the last minute gamblers are gonna try to get in this?
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Milliam, where are you seeing that early trade?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I can see how someone would be influenced by this board.. good info and DD... not like ihub
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I think we'll see money from WWEN coming this way today.. IMO
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
I think we'll see money from WWEN coming this way today.. IMO

Yea, i have to agree. I had my ride there and i might get in again someday but for now ill keep my attention here.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
2 thousand more at .99!
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
we are getting alot of buys coming in here
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Any large volumes waiting in the wings?
... I don't have level II
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
-Don't get me wrong... I'll be back over to wwen someday, but this is the place to be right now IMO.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
wwen dropped like a rock
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
dog, my TDAmeritrade "Last Sale" streamer was showing the early trades.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
are SEC filings usually afterhours or do they popup throughout the day?
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Thanks milliam! Gotta get all the angles you know!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
.95 2000 more!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE PPS????
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE PPS????

I was thinking the same thing. What a mess. I wish they would just halt trading and get this over with!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Falling down way too much here!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Harris is supposed to be on Paltalk again in a bit.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
don't get this !!!it should rebound!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
MM's last chance? Nothing has changed, same stock and deal... Sit tight [Smile]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
people keep selling below the bid! not smart!! we have 4 MM`s on at 2.00 and 2 on at 5.00! thats more than yesterday! MM`s will take whatever traders will sell! if this realy does what rufus says there will be alot of sad sellers!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah but you can tell it's intential because of the huge gaps in between the prices...i mean it went from .90 to .86 not much we can do about this...

hopefully it's just desperation...

(and i mean on their part, lol...not this explanation)
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
It has done this each of the last 2-3 days - traded between about .70 and 1.15 - biggest dip appears to be now until lunch, and then it has been recovering in the afternoon. I suspect we will see the same trend, and a run up this afternoon for those willing to take a chance on the conversion....JMHO
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
It did this yesterday morning as well...notice how all of the bids/ask are now 25 instead of the 5?
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I wish Rufus would quit with the Paltalk stuff. It makes me wonder, to be honest with you. I know he's got to be tired of all of the dumb questions or people wanting him to spill info he's not ready to or legally can't. Oh well, I'm just along for the ride, and I'll tune into Paltalk to see what's going on.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
MM's last chance? Nothing has changed, same stock and deal... Sit tight [Smile]

Shorts last chance too? Does Rufus drop it all at once?...halt, 10k, tick change, hello $15. Maybe not till Monday though. So far same as yesterday.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
fast turnabout at .82
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
When is Rufus going on Paltalk? I don't want to hang there waiting for him...I don't care for the place that much.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
are SEC filings usually afterhours or do they popup throughout the day?

They are posted throughout the day. EDGAR has a nice updating listing of all of todays filings. I have a simple HTML page I built that displays it and updates every ten seconds. Been a while since I have used it but it is running on my desktop today.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
The initial drop at the bell coindided with buying pressure way greater than selling pressure.

MM games to get initial momentum downwards and then get the weak hands. Maybe it's better to get the weak ones out early.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I am not interested in Rufas until he delivers me a 10K. If he talks about it let me know.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
10k will be Monday it sounded like, adit of FHAL holding things up the way I understood Rufus...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
That is not good I know alot of people who are going to dump this this afternoon if there is no 10 K.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Volume has really slowed down today. I guess it is a wait and see game today and monday.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
thanks tax...although i guess i'll notice my L2's stop if anything significant occurs...

can that happen midday or is that a "one it's on one day it's off thing"?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Just in... It has not been confirmed that Rufus is going to be on paltalk as of yet.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
are we going to have a price surge if he doesn't go? that would be appropriate...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Taxback... why so worried? If people dump they miss out, the deal still goes through, so why worry?...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
10k will be Monday it sounded like, adit of FHAL holding things up the way I understood Rufus...

Yes..seems I recall that "they" were having a "hard time" with getting that done...remember..there's more to the audit since it has just been "purchased"...and now the PPS will go down even more because it will have been "postponed' People will consider it even more of a "scam"...

IMO if this isn't done by the end of next week..it will completely fall...it's still is as much of a gamble as it was last week...now even more peeps will jump and try to get back again when the audit is filed...if you are in for the "long haul" stop watching and go enjoy your lives...if you are on the fence...jump now...IMO
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I was listening to PalTalk the other night and everyone on there gave their personal deadline for the 10K as 1:00 PM today. I translated that to mean 11:00AM or 12:00 today.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
thanks tax...although i guess i'll notice my L2's stop if anything significant occurs...

can that happen midday or is that a "one it's on one day it's off thing"?

it can be stopped at any time...
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Personally I think we are better served if the 10k comes out after the halt ... better support for the $15 pps and big ? for the shorts to have to contemplate!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
WELL put 10 [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cool AZ:
Personally I think we are better served if the 10k comes out after the halt ... better support for the $15 pps and big ? for the shorts to have to contemplate!

the way the 8k reads these financials are needed BEFORE the merger goes through...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Taxback... why so worried? If people dump they miss out, the deal still goes through, so why worry?...

Not worried just feeling the panic setting in. This 10K is so very important, and it in my eyes the only thing at all they had to get done this week. (OK squash da lemon, too.)

I do not think I can take this company on faith for another three days.

Heck I have an HTML page built specifically for these type of wait senarios. I have been here before, but never for a document that has meant this much. The 10K being late is very bad in my opinion.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
volume has all but disappeared in the last 25min...
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
every sub.and the new one's inline to become members of new entity ,,as Rufus said must have hundreds of millions in cash EACH to join!!!!!!17 sub's,,maybe up to 5-10 more,,,,let's say 20 for arguments sake---at 250 million each ===is 5 billion!!!MY GOD!!!!and that doesn't take into account there worth,,,this could be WAY BIG!!!!i'm more than long here!!!and this would explain IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHERE THE PP'S ARE NOW!!!! as Rufus has stated many times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I see, thanks for the info Tax ~
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
from I-HUB
Why buy FHAL... notes from Rufus per yesterday's paltalk...

HARRIS:

1. We are on schedule with the merger.
2. Believe the filings.
3. No officer of CVSU nor FHAL have sold shares. Read the 8K.
4. Increase of shares? No. If T/A says there are 10M more additional shares he has no knowledge of it. He will get to the bottom of it.
5. They are auditing the entire year of financials for FHAL so it can be combined with their financials.
6. AISS... the incorporators are Georgia Aerospace and CVSU.
7. Halt will be very soon. (no time given)
8. They have their funding for all of their projects and don't need more funding for their projects.
9. We have the cashed the $500M bond in Europe to a cash account.
10. He may halt it prior to releasing the 10K.
11. NASDAQ has given them the green light!!..if PPS was at 1.75...he said we could list right away!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
SYSY... ha ha ~ yes I've played with what might happen and even with this thing going through on the other side one has to wonder if you're a fool to sell at $15....

Not being greedy here, but wouldn't is suck to dump and at the EOD it's $27.00? Then went to $30-$40 in a week or two?... Yes and what about all the spin offs?... All to think about ~

I'm more thinking about those things now, cause there isn't anything else to do but wait for that 10k as Tax pointed out.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I know these things take time... but C rap! This ruins my day!

It was supposed to be:
Breakfast 7:00AM
Opening Bell 8:30AM
Gap Closed 9:00AM
10K 9:10AM
Shorts on fire 9:11AM
Halt Trading 9:12AM
Catch my breath 9 to Noon
Fight traffic to meet some friends for lunch Noon
Brag about my trading powers 12:05PM
Fight traffic back home 1:00PM
Code 1 to 3:30PM
Beer Thirty 3:30PM

The whole day is s c r e w e d now!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Everybody keeps saying the 10K is late. It was always said that it would happen between tues & Thursday. Come on this is Friday Morning. In most scenarios a late 10K is 15 days or more. This is the same thing people just get to anxious. I'm holding through the conversion and could care less if it comes out in the next 5 minutes or sometime Monday. They are auditing FHAL financials. If questions come up they have to be addressed prior to sending it to the SEC. It would be worse to send it in and then have the SEC question it and have to go back. Could you imagine the panic that would cause. Take a deep breath.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
I think to at least keep some long past $15. I'll problably keep most long past $15 as things stand now. GLTA!!!!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
That's my thinking Wally ~
 
Posted by dog on :
 
This private entity has been waiting a long time to go public.
I surmise that they were making enough money in the private sector to wait before coming public... they could really be trying to explode!
It looks as though everything is in order... the paperwork takes alot of time. These guys gotta be tired as it's been a hell of a long week. Rufus should stop doing interviews because he's way too tired to be sounding firm and intelligent on air. Just get the work done.
I'm sticking, walking away from the computer, and sacrificing a goat in the backyard for RUFUS!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
AFTER $15: Forgot, Rufus said he also had institutional investors ready to jump on board...
"Could this thing get any better?..."
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Fine I am holding but I am not happy!! I am taking Beer Thirty NOW! Stinking...rackle-a-frackle...10...fribbing..K Wait til l ... freak ing MONdaaaay.... Blagh blaagh blaaaagh

AaaaaRrrrrGgggg!!!!! Am I rich yet? D a m n it woman where is my super suit!!!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Don't hold back Tax!

But DITTO.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Fine I am holding but I am not happy!! I am taking Beer Thirty NOW! Stinking...rackle-a-frackle...10...fribbing..K Wait til l ... freak ing MONdaaaay.... Blagh blaagh blaaaagh

AaaaaRrrrrGgggg!!!!! Am I rich yet? D a m n it woman where is my super suit!!!

Wow, i feel like that too....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
LMAO ~~
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Somebody email BB's mobile as she requested. TaxBack has left the building.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
THINGS KINDA SLOW NOW---so i'll repost this little thing-------
Top 10 Reasons Investing is Like Sex

10) Some like it long, some like it short.

9) You can study the market as much as you like, but it all comes down to luck.

8) Those who talk about it the most, have the least experience.

7) One simple mistake could lead to 18 unprofitable years.

6) Some prefer to sit back and watch it grow.

5) Terms include swing trading, asset turnover, naked call, after hours, insider trading, silent partner, blind entries, 30-day wash rule, straddle, triangles, descending tops, ascending bottoms, pump and dump, partial surrender, stop order, position limit, voluntary liquidation, and explicit interest.

4) Low confidence can keep you out of the market.

3) Everyone tends to focus on performance.

2) Some do it alone, others do it with a group, and some hire professionals.

and the number one reason....

1) Some positions are better than others and the best position is always up for debate!

And remember, past performance is not necessarily indicative of future
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
[crickets....] I keep waiting for something to happen... [Smile] -besides watching my fellow traders loose their minds lol ~
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Wow... it's a stalemate... no trading here
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Y'all can thank my friend who dumped 100k shares at the start for pushing this thing down... hope all got in a little cheaper!
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Too much tax .... right on! LOL!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
no---lost my mind with divorce year's ago!!lol!!!it was definately a losing stock!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
ECUI is popping! 600+%
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
your problem was you enjoyed holding the bags too long, lol...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Really...lost mine in divorce 3 months ago... along with all of my assets... maybe this will turn it al around.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
ECUI is popping! 600+%

Let me guess, another "quarterly earnings" result? If i werent so tied up in fhal i think id be searching through earning reports because some of these stocks yesterday and today are BOOMING
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Funny... not that long ago I lost my "assets" in a divorce too ~ ha ~
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
ECUI is popping! 600+%

Let me guess, another "quarterly earnings" result? If i werent so tied up in fhal i think id be searching through earning reports because some of these stocks yesterday and today are BOOMING
I Don't know???
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Well there's the assets.. and the futures for 6 years of 5k a month, trading helps offset that
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
are we good bad or indifferent? ~BB
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
it's actually picked up in the last five minutes...

oh...and TaxBack has left the building...
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
flatlined for now!!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
definitely indifferent ... almost alliteration
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Good morning all...Still watching but bored!!! LOL
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
More digression...literary parallel I rather like applied to our dear Rufus.

"Rufus is a man of action and, having fought Dark wizards for most of his working life, does not under-estimate Lord Voldemort"

described as looking 'rather like an old lion' with 'streaks of gray in his mane of tawny hair and his bushy eyebrows'. He wears wire-rimmed spectacles and walks with a 'rangy, loping grace' despite his slight limp.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
oof. everyone waiting for news. ok ill go shoot chk bk at lunch.

somebody shower or change their underwear that always helps! [Smile]

~BB
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
we are trying to be entertaining! ha ~
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'm naked does that count?

i'm kidding...i have socks on...

haha...joking...the ladies my office building wouldn't be able to stay composed, lol...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Wonder if this will pick up until noon... trying to get in before the halt?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I thought it was halted!! ha ha ~~
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
chartwalker~ How did you lose YOUR "assets" in the divorce?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
everybody have a drink! and a fatty!!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
NO crab that might be why? LOL [Wink]
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Ya gotta take ur socks off! rotflol [Wink]
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
More digression...literary parallel I rather like applied to our dear Rufus.

"Rufus is a man of action and, having fought Dark wizards for most of his working life, does not under-estimate Lord Voldemort"

described as looking 'rather like an old lion' with 'streaks of gray in his mane of tawny hair and his bushy eyebrows'. He wears wire-rimmed spectacles and walks with a 'rangy, loping grace' despite his slight limp.

Oh yeah...best part...he's the "Minister of Magic"
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
The price goes from 91 to 89 on a buy!!!!!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
price is comming up!, also this morning we had 4 MM`s on the ask at 2.00 we now have 6 on at 2.00, may not mean anything dont know just saying!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
god i hope you're a lady cuss that would be uber creepy if you weren't, lol...

hey...look we just hit .90 again...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
chartwalker~ How did you lose YOUR "assets" in the divorce?

All for love baby!! <smooch!>
Don't have a ticket, you can't win ~
GLTA
 
Posted by jasbran on :
 
Yahoo is telling me CVSU is not a valid symbol. Anybody know why? This is kind of new to me. Thanks.
 
Posted by POOLBOY on :
 
I lost my girlfriend last night and need some money to buy a new one. i think im going with the new model that carries golf clubs!!!!!
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
I lost my ticket in my divorce!! lol
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Nice volume... JOKE
 
Posted by dog on :
 
It's bad enough the IRS gets 35%, the ex gets some too.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Remember !!!

The # 1 cause of Divorce..IS Marriage!!!

Ya brought dat chit on yo-sef, baby!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Some indicators lining up... maybe going up?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
No kidding.... married my complete opposite at age 24.... as my lawyer put it.. "marriage is a bad business deal for you, don't get married, and if you do she better make 4 times as much as you do...

But I'm not willing to dance with Martha Stewart.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Watta ya see Chart?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
that gap is rediculous between NITE and the lot...
 
Posted by POOLBOY on :
 
The "real" #1 cause in divorce or breakups is you have to see the same person over and over.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Variety is the spice of life... but you can always get burned
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
jeese you guys are depressing...am i the only one that actually ENJOYS spending time with ma lady?
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Crab, yes I am! LOL!!!! [Wink]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
lol...good thing...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
No... you must have picked the right one... enjoy it. I have a sweet one now...hopin she doesn't start trippin cause my threshold is lower now.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
luvforever,

lol...good thing...had me a little uncomfortable for a sec there...

not that there's anything wrong with that, lmao...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
investors hub.com / boards / read_msg.asp?message_id=12295076

MESSAGE FROM RUFUS!! take out gaps..
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
The apple is always sweetest just before it ROTS dog!!!LOL
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
I disagree with marriage, but if it works for anyone go for it... The beer killed ours, never be drunk all the time you miss tooooo much! LOL
 
Posted by POOLBOY on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
jeese you guys are depressing...am i the only one that actually ENJOYS spending time with ma lady?

I like spending time with ur lady too!!! jk
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I think I'm done watching for now...like watching paint dry.. check you out later.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
investors hub.com / boards / read_msg.asp?message_id=12294861

RUFUS on the attack!!
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
What the heck? My post is all screwed up?!! LOL I spell better than that....hmmm [Wink]
 
Posted by POOLBOY on :
 
I think i like the idea of being morman. Does anybody know of people that have several wifes and does it work out good?
 
Posted by jasbran on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by POOLBOY:
I think i like the idea of being morman. Does anybody know of people that have several wifes and does it work out good?

Several?........ One is enough headache!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
that gap is rediculous between NITE and the lot...

still the damn case...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Chart still looking good -not strong, but holding, maybe we hit our low today?..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
The apple is always sweetest just before it ROTS dog!!!LOL

Ain't that the truth!
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Gotta like that Rufus ... hard line & straight forward! I get that feeling about is all he's abought. Go Rufus and FHAL!! Godspeed Rufus!
 
Posted by POOLBOY on :
 
Two bored casino dealers are waiting at the crap table.
> A very attractive blonde woman from Alabama arrived ....and bet
> twenty-thousand dollars ($20,000) on a single roll of the dice.
>
> She said, "I hope you don't mind, but I feel much luckier
> when I play topless."
>
> With that, she stripped to the waist; rolled the dice; and
> yelled, "Come on, baby.... Southern Girl needs new clothes!"
>
> As the dice came to a stop, she jumped up-and-down... and
> squealed... "YES! YES! I WON! I WON!"
>
> She hugged each of the dealers... and then picked up her
> winnings and her clothes, and quickly departed.
>
> The dealers stared at each other dumfounded. Finally, one
> of them asked, "What did she roll?"
>
> The other answered, "I don't know... I thought you were watching."
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
They must have been keepin an eye on her clothes so they wouldn't get ripped-off..,.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
is there something new out for Georgia Aerospace? i hub seems to be discussing it but that site is hard as hell to follow...

nevermind there is nothing on the site...just a bunch of people going nuts over there...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
If this doesn't get moven, we will be sitten on .50 before long.....chart looks bad at the moment...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
chart looks bad? how? Strong Stochastic, MACD is about to cross.... ?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
-and there it goes ~
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.georgiaaerospace.com/


Board of Directors

Mr. Ken Cannestra, Former Pres. Lockheed Aeronautics

Dr. Louis Sullivan, Founder of Morehouse School of Medicine

Dr. Thomas Mensah, (Inventor)

Major General James Klugh, US Army (Ret)

Mr. Felker Ward, Pinnacle Investments Advisors

Mr. Sherman Mullin, Former Pres. Lockheed Martin Advanced Company


Board of Advisors

Gen. Les Lyles (USAF ret), fmr commander Materiel
command, Wright Patterson
AFB.

Mr. Donald Richardson, President AIAA (www.aiaa.org)

Prof. Sathya Hanugud, School of Aerospace Engineering Georgia Tech

Dr. Sidney Harris, Former Dean School of Business Georgia State University

Mr. David Maas, Former Engineering Director Dow-UT

Prof. Kurt Gramoll, Aerospace School University of Okalahoma
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by POOLBOY:
I think i like the idea of being morman. Does anybody know of people that have several wifes and does it work out good?

Mormons don't practice poligamy anymore, unless you are in one of the crazy cult sects....we lived in Salt Lake for a few years, and my husband always thought that was a good idea, however not legal anywhere [Wink]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
what time frame ya lookin at chartwalker??
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
looks like everybody is waiting or she's halted!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Iwas checkin the daily chart when I said that....See sumpthin different???
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
intraday/minute
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
NITE finally assimilated...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Take a look at the longer term.....not alot of support at this level..IMO...a good pop north would help to build some.. That is all I was gettin at.... Check it out ...Tell me whatcha see..
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rat. I use Prophet charting, what kind do you use?
Chart looks great right now... you?..
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
when things slow, a good trick is to back into a 2 min. or even 3-5 min to see the trend if your indicators seem choppy [Smile] wow big dump coming...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Just watching chart for something to do, they are still playing with this, and people are trigger happy...
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
From ***:

“One thing people have to understand is that our entire reputation is on the line here, and we know what we’re doing,” Harris boldly commented. “If we had a long history and we were from one of the big boys that was putting this together, you wouldn’t be asking any type of questions.

“There is too much fraud in today’s society and with the penny stocks and pink sheet stocks it’s impossible to find something real,” he added.

Stockholders, however, were looking for factual information other than the CEO telling them to “just trust us.” Callers were also aware that neither person had shared a NASDAQ company, as they are trying to do now.

One caller mentioned that there were message boards urging people not to trust this company, that it is a scam. Harris acknowledged there wasn’t much they could do about the gossip circulating the web.

“That’s their prerogative, free speech you know,” Harris commented. “I have no concern if CNBC came out and questioned it.”

Perhaps the most bizarre call took place toward the end of the interview as a lady called in to make sure Harris remembered his personal promise to her. Harris quickly remembered the caller and said he stood by his word saying he has personally guaranteed her funds if anything goes wrong.

“I will still honor that any day,” Harris said. “Have your attorney sign something and give it to me.”

The caller went on to wonder if she could sell her stock immediately after it went to $15 per share once the market re-opened. Once again Harris quickly answered to the callers liking.

Johnny Red, *** analyst, quickly fired back at Harris stating that a stock is only worth $15 dollars if someone will buy it for that price, and that it is a free market with no restrictions on it.

Harris then said that if the market drives the stock down the company will buy back shares to raise it again.

“We have set contracts through certain institutions to execute it upon notification,” Harris answered.

Harris concluded by telling investors to not worry about the market right now, reassuring that it will readjust after the merger goes through.

“You have made my day, and my life,” one caller concluded.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I like to scan as many time frames as possible...Longer term charts help to filter out the noise
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Harris then said that if the market drives the stock down the company will buy back shares to raise it again.

“We have set contracts through certain institutions to execute it upon notification,” Harris answered.

God I LOVE this guy!!! lol ~
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
everybody have a drink! and a fatty!!

Hah!! Canadians....you guys have all the fun! [Smile]
 
Posted by 66inxs on :
 
something aint right !!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
you got it!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
But they cant smoke in the casino's any more,,,
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
jeese you guys are depressing...am i the only one that actually ENJOYS spending time with ma lady?

Actually, my GF gave me the "Dear John" letter via email THE DAY that Rufus comfirmed $15 a share. Im still waiting to send her a screenshot of my portfolio when that day comes!
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
IMO everyone needs to build some sort of position in this between the 28th and the 1st. At least put riskable money into it...this is a chance for a huge opportunity...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
jeese you guys are depressing...am i the only one that actually ENJOYS spending time with ma lady?

Actually, my GF gave me the "Dear John" letter via email THE DAY that Rufus comfirmed $15 a share. Im still waiting to send her a screenshot of my portfolio when that day comes!
that would be fitting, lol...attach a pic of the stripper(s) you're with at the time as well, lol...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Ok 1pm lets see that documentation!~~
..
00
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Phophet charts let you "clone" charts. You can have 1 min 3 min and 5 min all going at once. Great for entering and then popping out. Once in use a longer range to weed out the "noise" so you don't sell at the wrong dip. If the dip starts to effect the 2-5 min charts, time to sell...

With penny's you better have your sell ticket filled out and one click away [Smile]

Higher buck stuff is easy, you can see the wave roll in and out, like shooting fish in a barrel. This method is killer with Mutual funds at EOD useing daily and weekly charts. But that's boring.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
jeese you guys are depressing...am i the only one that actually ENJOYS spending time with ma lady?

Actually, my GF gave me the "Dear John" letter via email THE DAY that Rufus comfirmed $15 a share. Im still waiting to send her a screenshot of my portfolio when that day comes!
that would be fitting, lol...attach a pic of the stripper(s) you're with at the time as well, lol...
Haha, thats just cruel....but im writing it down. [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
is there a good site i can go to to read up on the DMA lines? what them crossing and all means?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
DMA Lines: try clearstation dot com
look in their "education section" this is a outstanding resource! IMO

-Green line high, your going to fly but red line on the rise, -sell your prise ~
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
thanks!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I used to use a similar method when I was big in the Futers market,,,, Penny stocks can be almost as crazy as Pork Bellies....LOL
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
is anyone still picking up more shares of this?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by leanlow06:
is anyone still picking up more shares of this?

Tapped out and biting my nails. Id LOVE to get a bunch more but i think ill sit idle for now.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
All bought out here too... he he ~~
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
"Hello Scottrade.... -Do you take credit cards?!!!" LMAO !!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Hope your right with the positive outlook chartwalker.....I am still here but just caution is in the air for me...
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
I don't really mean to sound negative about this stock but it went from around the $0.10 cent range from the first week of July to a high around $1.66 in less than 3 weeks. That's something like a 1,766%+ gain. It's due for a very strong correction.

Hope is great, but sometimes in order to save yourself from a huge loss you have to realize what's really happening here and bail out.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
positive?... Said it was holding.. ha ~

Nothing to hoot about right now.... [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
I don't really mean to sound negative about this stock but it went from around the $0.10 cent range from the first week of July to a high around $1.66 in less than 3 weeks. That's something like a 1,766%+ gain. It's due for a very strong correction.

Hope is great, but sometimes in order to save yourself from a huge loss you have to realize what's really happening here and bail out.

Uhhhh,, did you read ANY of this board or ANY info on the internet regarding FHAL's past and future? Do you know ANYTHING about why it went to $1.60? I doubt it. Go back and do some reading and then make a better attempt at contribution. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
bail?... hey man, do you know the deal?... Merger going through and on Monday your shares are suppose to turn into $15 each in an IPO...

-you wanna bail?!!!
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Actually, I have already bailed out on some of my shares, but am holding onto the rest of them just in case, out of curiosity if for no other reason...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
bail?... hey man, do you know the deal?... Merger going through and on Monday your shares are suppose to turn into $15 each in an IPO...

-you wanna bail?!!!

He has one post and was registered today. We know what this guy is about, still irritates me though.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
LOOK for a sell off because so many people DON'T do D & D, look for a wimmpy price with all the shorts being covered... Everything here is running just like I thought.. JMHO ~
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
If there is an end of day sell off for the scared people who dont know about this stock, what do you guys think it could go down to. I am thinking about increasing my position, but not sure if i should wait.
 
Posted by liquidmetal on :
 
Thanks Abosolut its about time somebody told the people on this board the reality of this stock. I am shorting this bad boy and so far up big. Catia I have been reading your posts and like you even say you are new at this. Words of advice take your gain and be happy. FHAL is going to fall and I am going to make even more money. Look how the big boys are playing this one I am following them.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
bail?... hey man, do you know the deal?... Merger going through and on Monday your shares are suppose to turn into $15 each in an IPO...

-you wanna bail?!!!

It is for this reason alone, that I don't understand what is keepin this down...Should be much stronger....That is what is puting a yellow flag up for me....
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Actually, when I said I bailed, I did take profit awhile back on a few shares and now holding on to the rest and looking forward to see what next week holds for us...
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Who knows? Could soon be the last of opportunities to get onboard! All in!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
all in!! 17500 shares
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
and yes, the SMART thing would be to take a little home to momma ~ Cover yourself and let the rest ride, no need to be greedy.

I'm totally on free shares too, but got in at .10 so that didn't take much. Just be comfy with this and go forward [Smile]

But everything is looking very good IMO...
See you on the other side [Smile]
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
Has anyone called Rufus today to see what is up?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
Thanks Abosolut its about time somebody told the people on this board the reality of this stock. I am shorting this bad boy and so far up big. Catia I have been reading your posts and like you even say you are new at this. Words of advice take your gain and be happy. FHAL is going to fall and I am going to make even more money. Look how the big boys are playing this one I am following them.

Whoops! Thanks for reminding me about that. Techincally im not truly "new" at this anymore so my previous signature is out of date. Thanks!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Posted by: michael2300
In reply to: FinancialAdvisor who wrote msg# 20001 Date:7/28/2006 1:48:18 PM
Post #of 20011

"Just got off the phone with Integrity Stock Transfer the T/A for FHAL. The Float is between 23 to 24M shares. So there has not been any dilution. I also asked about the process of exchange after change to CVSU. He stated that once everything is complete it should happen within 24 hours. the only delays would be from the DTC itself and has nothing to do with the company. Discount brokers seem to take a little longer to make the change."
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
and yes, the SMART thing would be to take a little home to momma ~ Cover yourself and let the rest ride, no need to be greedy.

I'm totally on free shares too, but got in at .10 so that didn't take much. Just be comfy with this and go forward [Smile]

But everything is looking very good IMO...
See you on the other side [Smile]

Yea, i got in at .08 and took my investment out LONG ago. Im not budging, im in this until its finished....one way or the other
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 66inxs:
something aint right !!

???? Can...give us more than that?...what are you questioning....besides the whole deal?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
Posted by: michael2300
In reply to: FinancialAdvisor who wrote msg# 20001 Date:7/28/2006 1:48:18 PM
Post #of 20011

"Just got off the phone with Integrity Stock Transfer the T/A for FHAL. The Float is between 23 to 24M shares. So there has not been any dilution. I also asked about the process of exchange after change to CVSU. He stated that once everything is complete it should happen within 24 hours. the only delays would be from the DTC itself and has nothing to do with the company. Discount brokers seem to take a little longer to make the change."

Thanks for posting that ~
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
[/QUOTE]Uhhhh,, did you read ANY of this board or ANY info on the internet regarding FHAL's past and future? Do you know ANYTHING about why it went to $1.60? I doubt it. Go back and do some reading and then make a better attempt at contribution. [Roll Eyes] [/QB]
Catia,

I understand that there has been a lot of DD done on this stock as well as countless others and I'm not trying to bash the stock. Yes, I am new here and this is my 2nd post, however, I've been watching these boards for a few weeks and have seen people make amazing gains and then lose them because they don't sell.

Stocks do not generally gain 1500% in a matter of weeks and keep going up. You have to ask yourself exactly how much gain is sustainable after a certain period of time.

I'm sorry if I've offended anyone, I'm just giving my opinion. But in order to realize a gain, you have to sell some time.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Thats a fair statement Absolute!!
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
Thanks Abosolut its about time somebody told the people on this board the reality of this stock. I am shorting this bad boy and so far up big. Catia I have been reading your posts and like you even say you are new at this. Words of advice take your gain and be happy. FHAL is going to fall and I am going to make even more money. Look how the big boys are playing this one I am following them.

New Member


Rate Member posted July 28, 2006 09:13
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Alright I just lost alot on another stock I am going to double down on FHAL this morning. I hope everyone on this message board is right....

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[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
Thanks Abosolut its about time somebody told the people on this board the reality of this stock. I am shorting this bad boy and so far up big. Catia I have been reading your posts and like you even say you are new at this. Words of advice take your gain and be happy. FHAL is going to fall and I am going to make even more money. Look how the big boys are playing this one I am following them.

Hi Illiquid,

Yes, I am sure that everyone that is contrary is going to short this thing into the ground. I originally read the FAQs somewhere on this board provided by the forum originator and they did inform the participants of this forum that the short-sellers will drive high flying gainers into the ground after a big run.

Like you say, take your profit and run. I think it's sound advice. I just don't like seeing people hurt by a bad investment that went against them.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
What's your position here ablolut if you don't mind saying?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
bail?... hey man, do you know the deal?... Merger going through and on Monday your shares are suppose to turn into $15 each in an IPO...

-you wanna bail?!!!

It is for this reason alone, that I don't understand what is keepin this down...Should be much stronger....That is what is puting a yellow flag up for me....
bump...

Any thoughts??
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:

Uhhhh,, did you read ANY of this board or ANY info on the internet regarding FHAL's past and future? Do you know ANYTHING about why it went to $1.60? I doubt it. Go back and do some reading and then make a better attempt at contribution. [Roll Eyes]
Catia,

I understand that there has been a lot of DD done on this stock as well as countless others and I'm not trying to bash the stock. Yes, I am new here and this is my 2nd post, however, I've been watching these boards for a few weeks and have seen people make amazing gains and then lose them because they don't sell.

Stocks do not generally gain 1500% in a matter of weeks and keep going up. You have to ask yourself exactly how much gain is sustainable after a certain period of time.

I'm sorry if I've offended anyone, I'm just giving my opinion. But in order to realize a gain, you have to sell some time. [/QB][/QUOTE]

Ok, ill sell some after the merger. Thanks!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
-I'll sell some after the merger... lmao! ha ~~
good one.
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cool AZ:
What's your position here ablolut if you don't mind saying?

Full disclosure, I have no position whatsoever in FHAL.

I originally heard about it on a forum at myspace when it made a little bounce at around .15 cents(?) and then paid no mind. Later on, I realized this same stock that was at $1.50 was actually the one they mentioned on myspace.

I would have loved to have been on this ride, but truthfully, at this point, if my broker allowed me to, I would be short this stock.
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
But in order to realize a gain, you have to sell some time.
Wow... that is just amazing to hear. I never realized that before you told all of us that little nugget of wisdom. Pretty soon you will be repeating Billy Madison and declaring yourself "The Smartest Man Alive". Just be glad that you appologized to Steve Buschemi before going on a quiz show for all of the marbles.
 
Posted by 66inxs on :
 
10 i think that the merger and the symbol change is a given. i am questioning rhe price of the stock after the symbol change and the statement from the post previous to mine:

Harris then said that if the market drives the stock down the company will buy back shares to raise it again.

is buyimg back shares simply to increase the pps in the companies best interest? it seemed that the previous post implied that there was some type of guarantee of the pps of the new company. personally, imho, i do not believe that or i would have put my money where my mouth is. the stocks dismal performance b4 the symbol change seems to me to agree with this.

this is just my read on this and is neither a bash nor pump. i am still looking for a reentry point and will be radaring this after it resumes trading. GLTA !
 
Posted by MikeSC on :
 
Absolut, giving you the benefit of the doubt (usually a bad idea), suffice it to say that ANY time you tell someone they should sell is going to be lableled a basher.

Also, all bashers react to accusations just like you did to gain trust.

Bottom line: don't tell people when to buy and sell.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rufus said that "institutional" investors would be standing by to buy shares and keep it at $15. Not his people, that is what is interesting ~
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
edit...i'm a dummy...
 
Posted by showme$ on :
 
how low can that thing go? didn't i hear talking about 10$ last friday? i am keepin this stock on watch list.
 
Posted by liquidmetal on :
 
Wow I was wrong a couple weeks of wisdom catia can you manage my portfolio?
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSC:
Absolut, giving you the benefit of the doubt (usually a bad idea), suffice it to say that ANY time you tell someone they should sell is going to be lableled a basher.

Also, all bashers react to accusations just like you did to gain trust.

Bottom line: don't tell people when to buy and sell.

Well, thank you for the advice, if it is advice. I would assume that if I had come in here and started berating people for not selling I would probably not be welcomed.

You're right, though. I'll keep my advice to myself.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Board.. Is it true that a symbol cannot be used for 6 months after it closes? On another board a lady said that it can't be used as pk or ob or anything with CVSU in it.

Just wondering...
I'm LONG ~
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
Wow I was wrong a couple weeks of wisdom catia can you manage my portfolio?

Im not claiming "wisdom". The only thing ive TRULY learned is that somehow its legal to short stocks and run around from one message board to the next trying to convince people to sell because your shorts are catching on fire. As for your portfolio...its full of shorted FHAL stock. I wouldnt touch it....thanks
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Board.. Is it true that a symbol cannot be used for 6 months after it closes? On another board a lady said that it can't be used as pk or ob or anything with CVSU in it.

Just wondering...
I'm LONG ~

Now they are saying that you can.... oh well.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 66inxs:
10 i think that the merger and the symbol change is a given. i am questioning rhe price of the stock after the symbol change and the statement from the post previous to mine:

Harris then said that if the market drives the stock down the company will buy back shares to raise it again.

is buyimg back shares simply to increase the pps in the companies best interest? it seemed that the previous post implied that there was some type of guarantee of the pps of the new company. personally, imho, i do not believe that or i would have put my money where my mouth is. the stocks dismal performance b4 the symbol change seems to me to agree with this.

this is just my read on this and is neither a bash nor pump. i am still looking for a reentry point and will be radaring this after it resumes trading. GLTA !

Thanks 66...I don't understand it myself...
I did buy a small amount more today...it really didn't go through nearly as quick as I thought it might...the volume is vey low...and I can't help but wonder if so many of the "longs" are simply holding and not doing a darn thing...the volume we see..scared people jumpin out...?? IMO

I understand that this is a gamble..but heck...most pennies are...and I am only playin with a portion of the profits from this...as the sayin' goes..only play with what you can afford to loose!

We shall see what the next few weeks bring...but I doubt I am even going to attempt to selll right after the merger...I'll wait for it to settle...
 
Posted by MikeSC on :
 
^^^^^^^

Looks like she got pretty savvy pretty quick!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so...hour and a half till close...

predictions to the madness that will insue?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
More on Symbol change (cut and paste):

The symbol is not being "Reused"..it's being "recycled". There's a difference. If ANOTHER company was trying to use it, then yes, it'd be true..but CVSU is using the same CUSIP number and moving the listing from Pink sheets to OTC BB.
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
But in order to realize a gain, you have to sell some time.
Wow... that is just amazing to hear. I never realized that before you told all of us that little nugget of wisdom. Pretty soon you will be repeating Billy Madison and declaring yourself "The Smartest Man Alive". Just be glad that you appologized to Steve Buschemi before going on a quiz show for all of the marbles.
No problem. I'm glad you sold and kept your gains!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
More on Symbol change (cut and paste):

The symbol is not being "Reused"..it's being "recycled". There's a difference. If ANOTHER company was trying to use it, then yes, it'd be true..but CVSU is using the same CUSIP number and moving the listing from Pink sheets to OTC BB.

take with grain of salt, that was from a poster....
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
All right {burp} what happened here? I take off for a deserving afternoon and in a matter of hours the weasle bashers start showing up trying to talk people out of their shares again.

TaxBack is back in the building but is leaving again real soon. Too depressing around here watching the grass grow. Look forward to reading tonight to see how many desperate shorts stop-by to try and "reason" with us as to why we are still holding. No... why we still have a vice grip on our shares.

Holding, holding, you can't talk me out of my shares no way, no how.

{Disclaimer: Unless the 10K or trade halt is delayed again next week. then I will have a blue light special on a massive inventory of stock that absolutely MUST GO!}
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
IMO..the only way this merger won't go through...

In the 8k..it states that EITHER party can cancel...1 day before the "close"...IF the audited financials that are being waited on...end up being "off" as compared to what Rufas is hoping for...and they will not be able to do the "reorginaztion" type thing and "close and "reset" the PPS under that "special" rule...he will cancel it...and go back to the drawing board to get CVSU on the market and at the higher PPS...

...and yes..even with this possiblity...I'm playin' the stupid route...and staying! Let's hope the financials are what Rufas is thinking they are!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
I have to laugh! a couple days ago people started bashing this and urging everyone to take thier money out of this and put it into WWEN witch ran on hype and excitement and many seem to have sold this for that. i jumped in on the pump and jumped right back out the same day for a 150 percent gain. now it`s down about 70 percent off the high of a couple of days ago! ( saw that comming! ) and will likely go back to single pennies early next week if not today. this is a gamble true but mutch less so than that other stock. in a few days we will know if this will payoff, it could be years before the other stuff does anything! the PR`s say it all! oh well < good luck to them and to us!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
While I was out I was thinking... (I know kind of dangerous.) ...what if this was a Rufas move to catch the shorts, and flippers really off guard. Kind of like when the nurse tells you to look away right before the shot. Get everyone all nice and comfortable thinking things were going to be next week and then. WAM!!! 10K, S-4, and halt all at once in the afternoon. That would prevent the spike and resulting sell-off before the halt, and lock the shorts in with no time to cover.

Honestly the only reason I came back. I didn't want you guys having all the fun. Watching the shorts fling themselves from the rooftops, balconys, and park benches.

TB
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
so...hour and a half till close...

predictions to the madness that will insue?

No real predictions but today is the first day ive decided to watch the entertainment over at ihub. A large portion of them are shouting "Burn shorties burn!" "You will owe 15 million!". Its getting pretty heated in this final hour or so

Ok, thats not true. I predict that if we dont get ANY news before 4 there may be some sort of sell off. I think with the weekend coming people dont want to wait for results. Personally, im staying in. I hope we get news at 4:05 that crushes the shorters.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
While I was out I was thinking... (I know kind of dangerous.) ...what if this was a Rufas move to catch the shorts, and flippers really off guard. Kind of like when the nurse tells you to look away right before the shot. Get everyone all nice and comfortable thinking things were going to be next week and then. WAM!!! 10K, S-4, and halt all at once in the afternoon. That would prevent the spike and resulting sell-off before the halt, and lock the shorts in with no time to cover.

Honestly the only reason I came back. I didn't want you guys having all the fun. Watching the shorts fling themselves from the rooftops, balconys, and park benches.

TB

Yes! This is what I was saying earlier...I like it and it would fit the rest of the week nicely.
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
I have to laugh! a couple days ago people started bashing this and urging everyone to take thier money out of this and put it into WWEN witch ran on hype and excitement and many seem to have sold this for that. i jumped in on the pump and jumped right back out the same day for a 150 percent gain. now it`s down about 70 percent off the high of a couple of days ago! ( saw that comming! ) and will likely go back to single pennies early next week if not today. this is a gamble true but mutch less so than that other stock. in a few days we will know if this will payoff, it could be years before the other stuff does anything! the PR`s say it all! oh well < good luck to them and to us!

Yes, good luck to all!!!!! There's always hope because this stock is different!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Yeah i Hub as been pretty entertaining today...

although...this may be wierd...but i'm almost as big of sceptic when it comes to the people talking about the shorts as I am listening to the bashers...

alot of it just seems orchestrated for lack of a better term...i don't know...reading alot of this just seems fake...a couple of our new friends here seem to be part of that as well...

sidenote...ya'll see the 90k or so that just got sold? happened about ten minutes ago now...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
No, i didnt see that. Hmmmm
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
it wasn't one sell...i got that of the minute volume chart...it happened over a couple minutes...

and that is when the price started dipping...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
Yeah i Hub as been pretty entertaining today...

although...this may be wierd...but i'm almost as big of sceptic when it comes to the people talking about the shorts as I am listening to the bashers...

alot of it just seems orchestrated for lack of a better term...i don't know...reading alot of this just seems fake...a couple of our new friends here seem to be part of that as well...

sidenote...ya'll see the 90k or so that just got sold? happened about ten minutes ago now...

Yea, i cant decide if its just people fed up and telling the shorters off or if its all fake. Kinda hard to say but ive seen about everything this past week.

Wasnt aware of that sell....thats a pretty big one
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
is anyone staying in over the weekend, can they do the symbol change over the weekend and start with a new one on monday
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
hope news comes out right away!!! that would be awsome !!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'm not selling...i'm young...have a good heart...don't think it'll kill me if i end up holding a bag here...

i'm obviously not saying i WANT that...but it's worth the gamble i suppose...
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
we all know what this stock is about, until there is bad news (not going to happen), we are o.k., even if she tanks today.
if everyone did thier due diligence, a lower price should not realy matter, except, that a sale could have happened and we could of got a better position.imo
 
Posted by BULListic on :
 
Next piece in place:

14:29 CVSU Conversion Solutions Inc Common Stock 07/28/2006 Acquired by FrontHaul Group Inc (1 sh FHAL)
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
have a link?
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
thats what i am pondering can they make the symbol change over the weekend? i think it might dip eod, and could have a chance to get back in monday with more and cheaper shares,
 
Posted by BULListic on :
 
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=07/28/2006&mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB

quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
have a link?


 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
wow it does look like a dip! I'm going to free up some cash and buy [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks Bull!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
sweeet...thanks...
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
its going to dip lower imo and close low everyone selling on friday,
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
its going to dip lower imo and close low everyone selling on friday,

Yea, i kinda guessed around .50 without news. Might be enough to cover some of the shorties, would be nice if intervention came about via some news
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
nice find bull
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey guys can they do the symbol change over the weekend?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
Yeah i Hub as been pretty entertaining today...

although...this may be wierd...but i'm almost as big of sceptic when it comes to the people talking about the shorts as I am listening to the bashers...

alot of it just seems orchestrated for lack of a better term...i don't know...reading alot of this just seems fake...a couple of our new friends here seem to be part of that as well...

sidenote...ya'll see the 90k or so that just got sold? happened about ten minutes ago now...

Yea, i cant decide if its just people fed up and telling the shorters off or if its all fake. Kinda hard to say but ive seen about everything this past week.

Wasnt aware of that sell....thats a pretty big one

I have real time L2`s and i have looked at EVERY trade today and there has been NO SINGLE trade buy or sell for 90,000 shares today, the largest trade was a buy of 61,900 at 9:39 this morning at 1.06.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
look below...
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Maybe if it dips low enough, then the shorters will buy out their positions, and become pumpers. Maybe all of these dips are good for everyone?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
it wasn't one sell...i got that of the minute volume chart...it happened over a couple minutes...

and that is when the price started dipping...

nevermind...here it is...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
nice find bull... watching my edgar page and no 10K yet.... but... Halliburton Co. just filed their 10Q so I got something to pass the time with.

http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx?FilingID=4559169&Ty pe=HTML
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Coming back up now. What the heck?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
According to someone on paltalk...he talked to Darryl Horton (CVSU's CPA)
Said that PR is coming today......could be BS but hey it's something.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
According to someone on paltalk...he talked to Darryl Horton (CVSU's CPA)
Said that PR is coming today......could be BS but hey it's something.

Bah, im planning to leave the office at 4. It will probably come out at 4:05. Its gonna be a LONG 45 minute drive home. [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
and the PPS is going up quick...

dude...use the cell for news...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
should close around 98
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
If it continues to climb til EOD
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
and the PPS is going up quick...

dude...use the cell for news...

Hmmmm, ill make some test runs on that. Thanks
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
With the fewer shares out there, than it was..this will move on little sells or buys...(along with the MM's screwin' around)
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee..things settling on the home front?
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Maye a dumb question but I don't have to do anything to my account in etrade (no restricted shares or anything)with this whole name change (ie paperwork, etc.)
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
and the PPS is going up quick...

dude...use the cell for news...

Hmmmm, ill make some test runs on that. Thanks
i'm with sprint...i can use fidelityanywhere for free and they give live quotes with volume and everything...and news obviously...i've checked them against my L2's and they are accurate down to the second...

(commmercial off)
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
TDCM seems to not wanna go anyplace...

and there they go...moving pretty fast again...
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
HUGE ALERT:
14:29 CVSU Conversion Solutions Inc Common Stock 07/28/2006 Acquired by FrontHaul Group Inc (1 sh FHAL)
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Maye a dumb question but I don't have to do anything to my account in etrade (no restricted shares or anything)with this whole name change (ie paperwork, etc.)

People have been told no...but it was "suggested" to get the "hard certificates"...call you broker and ask them directly...

I am not doing anything...and I hope it works out for the best..
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
looks like EOD run
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Taken from OTCBB site, meaning its a done deal
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
and the PPS is going up quick...

dude...use the cell for news...

Hmmmm, ill make some test runs on that. Thanks
i'm with sprint...i can use fidelityanywhere for free and they give live quotes with volume and everything...and news obviously...i've checked them against my L2's and they are accurate down to the second...

(commmercial off)

Hmmmm, so far on verizon i dont see something that sweet. I guess if i wanted to pay for Vcast i would have more options. Come on Rufus! I wanna have Vcast!! [Smile]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Maumee..things settling on the home front?

Like a bowling ball on a jello cake!!

thanks for askin..
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
now let's get her over a buck!
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
my dad said he just bought 10k at .83
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
bowling ball on a jello cake...i'm stealing that one...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
well..the ball would be "settled"...the cake might be jiggling...Hmmm...Sorry?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
OT: I know there is a rally on right now, and things are picking up, and no one is interested in my Halliburton Co. 10Q. But this thing is as scary as it is hilarious. Read this short exerpt. [Eek!]

quote:
Improper payments reported to the SEC

During the second quarter of 2002, we reported to the SEC that one of our foreign subsidiaries operating in Nigeria made improper payments of approximately $2.4 million to entities owned by a Nigerian national who held himself out as a tax consultant, when in fact he was an employee of a local tax authority. The payments were made to obtain favorable tax treatment and clearly violated our Code of Business Conduct and our internal control procedures.

I promise that is the last I will mention it. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
Taken from OTCBB site, meaning its a done deal

Bull posted it earlier...thanks

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=07/28/2006&mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
OT: I know there is a rally on right now, and things are picking up, and no one is interested in my Halliburton Co. 10Q. But this thing is as scary as it is hilarious. Read this short exerpt. [Eek!]

quote:
Improper payments reported to the SEC

During the second quarter of 2002, we reported to the SEC that one of our foreign subsidiaries operating in Nigeria made improper payments of approximately $2.4 million to entities owned by a Nigerian national who held himself out as a tax consultant, when in fact he was an employee of a local tax authority. The payments were made to obtain favorable tax treatment and clearly violated our Code of Business Conduct and our internal control procedures.

I promise that is the last I will mention it. [Big Grin]
OUCH!! LOL
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
looks like they're trying to sqeeeeeeeeezeeeeee
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
whats a little bribe here and there...isn't this the only country that that is even considered a crime?

(i wouldn't do it though)

oh and "mooooovin on up, moooovin on up!!!"
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
EOD over a buck????
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
definitely over a buck, the question is 2 bux?
 
Posted by coalkickin on :
 
coming
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
I'm pretty new to this penny stuff but it seems like this week some crazy movements have been happening in more stocks than just FHAL. I hope they all work out for the gain or at least just a few... Is this stuff normal in the pennies???
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Nothing is ever normal in pennies
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
in penny's weird is normal! [Smile]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
EOD here we come !buy it up!!!UPUPUPUP!!!
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
I like wierd! I like pennies!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
pennies are the craziest and most addicting thing ever, their like lays potato chips once you start you cant stop, even if you are losing
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
here comes my BUCK!!
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
10k after bell would be crazy
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
10 min...aaaaaand counting...

think there was some validity to that .98 predicted earlier...
 
Posted by showme$ on :
 
... and normal is insane!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
This is insane, we are actually going to hit a buck!! All week this thing has floundered all over the place and always seems to recover. There are a SHLOAD of people so confused and dazed by the idea of $15 that the bashers have left the building and people are actually holding...AND trying to buy.
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
if traders would stop selling the price would be over a buck! way over!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Come on BABY!!
 
Posted by vettes76 on :
 
$100 on 0.94-0.98. Any takers???
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
one last try!!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
that sure is a big gap, need to narrow it down some
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
maumee river rat
Member


posted July 28, 2006 15:27
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
should close around 98

_________________________________________________

Turnin out to be a pretty good guess so far...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
lotsa decent size buys going through...
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
1.02 eod
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Looks like a little resistance for a buck... Lets break it for EOD
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
yea .99 lookin solid
 
Posted by BULListic on :
 
37.5k at $1.00 after the bell.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...beat me to it...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I win!!!!LOL
 
Posted by vettes76 on :
 
I will pay any of the takers once we get our $15 a share. I plan on selling * $10...dont want to be greedy. LOL

BTW GLTA and have a great weekend!
 
Posted by BULListic on :
 
Good minds think alike.... :>
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so when we gettin the news we're all broke, lol?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Well this is still setteling....It was at 98 at 4:00..... Lotta movement last 1/2 hour....20%pluss.....This is a good thing...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
so when we gettin the news we're all broke, lol?

Bah, i was gonna say when can i order my new car?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
so far over 67,000 bought after the bell at a buck!. monday may be the day, shorts covering what they can get?. anyone with a low sell order in might want to cancel until at least pre-market monday!
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by madmoney:
if traders would stop selling the price would be over a buck! way over!!

Madmoney you have a PM
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
that'll work too...

although...i wanna fund a big ring for future use, lol...
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
what kinda ring you talking about
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
a big rock rather to place on a ring, lol...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
On my etrade after hour quote it has 7.21x100. Anyone else see this.
 
Posted by liquidmetal on :
 
Well don't go spend all your gains this weekend. I got a feeling Monday i will make some cash off this Short. Good luck.
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
well i gotta nice ring that i might be looking to sell, with a nice rock
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
where do you see that on etrade? L2's or the regular account screen?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
ON etrade it has 78 bid and 7.21x100 on ask.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
It is on the regular account above the stock under the quote tab.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
well i gotta nice ring that i might be looking to sell, with a nice rock

haha...better luck for me than you huh, lol?
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
no man i make rings and sell them for a little extra cash its quite fun and very profiting
 
Posted by BULListic on :
 
My Fiancee wants a pair of nice big diamond earrings to go with her nice big engagement ring....I told her RUFUS would take care of those needs...right RUFFY!!!? [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tmoney:
no man i make rings and sell them for a little extra cash its quite fun and very profiting

Seriously? Ive been sitting on a .75k for quite some time, was planning to trade up someday. I'll have to dig out the paperwork. [Smile]
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
i call them financees, hahaha
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
funny guy, lol...

is there a way to see who is trading afterhours?
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
1.56k, center stone, the diamond alone appraise for 12,400, the ring itself appraised for 16,700, but i cant tell you what i made the ring for,
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
LOL - you guys are a hoot - listen carefully, and 95% of women will tell you the same thing:

IT ISN'T THE SIZE THAT MATTERS IT IS THE QUALITY!

Applies to body parts, diamonds, and everything in between - even the thought (from the thought that counts). My hubby always gets an A+ for more effort....

hehehehehe
 
Posted by liquidmetal on :
 
Well I will enjoy cashing your check tonight catia thanks for the tip haha
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
OK, enough about rings. This is the first time I have seen the after ask set at 7.21. Isn't this significant in some way or am I trully losing the mind.
 
Posted by POOLBOY on :
 
If i get $15 for my shares im going to tattoo a $100.00 bill on my d--k. Cause i like to play with my money, i like to see my money grow and if my next girlfriend wants to she can blow $100 bucks she can anytime.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
LOL - you guys are a hoot - listen carefully, and 95% of women will tell you the same thing:

IT ISN'T THE SIZE THAT MATTERS IT IS THE QUALITY!

Applies to body parts, diamonds, and everything in between - even the thought (from the thought that counts). My hubby always gets an A+ for more effort....

hehehehehe

Thats why mine is .75k, I couldnt find the same quality in a 1k or 1.25k. Which is all meaningless now because there is no finger for the ring to go on!!

Ok, ive had enough...im headed home. Of course ill be on to see if any after the bell news hits.

See ya!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
well that is the supposed book value...

so it may mean something...although that something could just be the mm's messing with our fragile little minds...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
OK, enough about rings. This is the first time I have seen the after ask set at 7.21. Isn't this significant in some way or am I trully losing the mind.

Id say its significant strictly based on the fact that the 7.21 has been thrown around before as book value. I cant figure out why its showing up the way it is but im intrigued.
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
SI2 in clarity and H on the color scale, looks like good quality to me, radiant cut,
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I haven't seen extended hours ever showing up on this stock. Can we actually trade it after hours now???
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
Well I will enjoy cashing your check tonight catia thanks for the tip haha

Haha. Hey Liquid, do you go long on these things too?
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
That does sound like a nice diamond, Tmoney....
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by fryyguyy:
OK, enough about rings. This is the first time I have seen the after ask set at 7.21. Isn't this significant in some way or am I trully losing the mind.

Id say its significant strictly based on the fact that the 7.21 has been thrown around before as book value. I cant figure out why its showing up the way it is but im intrigued.
Catia,

It doesn't mean anything except for the Market Makers don't want to take any orders to buy or sell after hours so they jack the price up after the close so they can do their paperwork.
 
Posted by bloodykitten on :
 
This is odd. I still am using Schwab. Yea I know..anyway it a quote screen its listing FHAL as this

Primary Market: NASDAQ.

Just thought I'd share.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
but isn't OTC:BB just a sub of NASDAQ
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Ok, bloodykitten has NASDAQ

Fryyguyy has an after hour ticker at 7.21.

This is starting to get exciting
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
hey fhal isnt going to nasdaq it would be cvsu right
 
Posted by vinnie1 on :
 
scottrade the ask is .99
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
The ask being at 7.21 is VERY significant! That is the book value of the stock...it has never been at 7.21 before...Lookin' forward to Monday!!!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
book value of the stock after the merger right
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.marketwatch.com/tools/quotes/quotes.asp?symb=cvsu&vc=&siteid=mktw&dis t=dropmenu check this out!!!!!!!there READY!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
FRONTHAUL GROUP INC (FHAL: OTC BB)


Extended Hours: Last 0.00 Change 0.00 -- Bid 0.78 x3,000 Ask 7.21 x100 Extended Hours
Real Time ECN Quote (INET)


This is from my etrade account...

yes Tmoney...after the merger...
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
after the merger shouldnt it be cvsu
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
what does (NQB) refer to?
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Nasdaq Bulletin
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
oh...so what does this mean exactly...

on a side note...someone has already posted on their discussion board in the market watch link, lol...
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Fryyguyy, I see it 7.21 x 100 on the ask.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
FRONTHAUL GROUP INC (FHAL: OTC BB)


Extended Hours: Last 0.00 Change 0.00 -- Bid 0.78 x3,000 Ask 7.21 x100 Extended Hours
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
CRab I think it means we can sleep a bit easier over the weekend. [Smile]
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
why would 7.21 be on the ask of FHAL if the expected price of the merger is to be at 7.21 in cvsu
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so that means that CVSU is a Nasdaq security now? can someone explain why it's CVSU though? i'm not following the process here i guess...
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
CVSU is the new symbol!!!!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
im getting confused now what is the new ticker symbol suppost to be AFTER the merger fhal or cvsu
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I see the Etrade numbers too but I agree that they probably not that significant. It is more than a bit strange that it is the supposedly new book value of the company post merger. Over all effect, it made me smile just a bit on the inside. [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
right it's the new symbol...i got that...so we are skipping over the OTC:BB and just going right to Nasdaq? that is what's confusing me at the moment...
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
CVSU is the NEW SYMBOL!!
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
if cvsu is the new symbol that is where you should look for the 7.21, because the fhal symbol after the merger is void, am i right
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
Why is CVSU an invalid symbol when you try to see it in Yahoo?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Try and follow cause I know I am lost... CVSU.PK and FHAL.OB merged. FHAL.OB survived the merger and CVSU.PK had to be retired. Soon after the merger FHAL.OB will become CVSU.OB and once we break the $1.75 trading mark CVSU.OB will be allowed to trade on the NASDAQ. OB is the OTCBB or also known as NASDAQ Bulletin Board (NQB).

If that isn't confusing, let Tex explain the tax implecations of the merger. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by djg7:
FRONTHAUL GROUP INC (FHAL: OTC BB)


Extended Hours: Last 0.00 Change 0.00 -- Bid 0.78 x3,000 Ask 7.21 x100 Extended Hours

i can't find this .

i need a link please?
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
nope nothing to do with the 1.75 break point that was a reference in the conversation with rufus, after the merger the new symbol will be CVSU and it will open on the nasdaq at a new set price of $15, this is what i understood
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Try and follow cause I know I am lost... CVSU.PK and FHAL.OB merged. FHAL.OB survived the merger and CVSU.PK had to be retired. Soon after the merger FHAL.OB will become CVSU.OB and once we break the $1.75 trading mark CVSU.OB will be allowed to trade on the NASDAQ. OB is the OTCBB or also known as NASDAQ Bulletin Board (NQB).

If that isn't confusing, let Tex explain the tax implecations of the merger. [Big Grin]

It's my understanding that in order to move to NASDAQ we will need to trade at a minimum of $4 for small cap or $5 for Regular NASDQ. Rufus also mentioned that CVSU would need to maintain volume of at least 50,000 shares per day for a period of time. His projection of a move to The NASDAQ was 45 to 60 days. That was my understanding.

Until then it will trade on the OTC.BB

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Dollar 13, go to etrade.com. The type in fhal in the quote box. You will find it at the top of the page.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Try and follow cause I know I am lost... CVSU.PK and FHAL.OB merged. FHAL.OB survived the merger and CVSU.PK had to be retired. Soon after the merger FHAL.OB will become CVSU.OB and once we break the $1.75 trading mark CVSU.OB will be allowed to trade on the NASDAQ. OB is the OTCBB or also known as NASDAQ Bulletin Board (NQB).

If that isn't confusing, let Tex explain the tax implecations of the merger. [Big Grin]

but that isn't really the case...

on the same website the marketwatcher site that has CVSU a (NQB), FHAL is listed as (OTC:BB) so that (NQB) does not = CVSU.OB

see...

FHAL
http://www.marketwatch.com/tools/quotes/quotes.asp?symb=fhal&vc=&siteid=mktw&dis t=dropmenu

CVSU
http://www.marketwatch.com/tools/quotes/quotes.asp?symb=cvsu&vc=&siteid=mktw&dis t=dropmenu

and actually if you go to the Nasdaq site...CVSU is not found in any form yet...

my head hurts...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
http://www.nasdaq.com/about/nasdaq_listing_req_fees.pdf

Here's a link for the requirements of listing on the NASDAQ...
 
Posted by BULListic on :
 
I don't think we go to CSVU.OB until it's posted on the OTCBB Daily List, just like the last two days:

http://www.otcbb.com/dailylist/

So I expect it to be FHAL.OB until further notice. Now it may come out first thing Monday morning, but until it does, FHAL.OB it is.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so again...why is the CVSU(NQB) even there?
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
guys i talked to scottrade, i asked him if they have heard of fhal, he said yes but just a little about a possible merger, i asked him what i needed to do in order to make sure my fhal was transfered over to cvsu and as fast as possible, he said that when the company merges they are responsible to send scottrade all the paper work involved in order to make the symbol change, i asked how lond does that take once they receive the symbol change papers, he said it could take one day and he has seen it take several days, i then asked if any broker gets papers first, he said not unless they have some kind of agreement but that all brokers should recieve the notice at the same time, as of right now no papers have been sent to scottrade requesting a symbol change, hope this helps
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
It will remain FHAL until it is closed and re-opened as CVSU...we are still waiting on the financials for FHAL and S4 filing...Tuesday or Wednesday at the earliest IMO...

Crab..it's "always" been "there"
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
in ETRADE. COM almost all ticker symbols show more than 50% 100%(more of the bid price) at the ask "extended hours"

what is this???
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Judging by the time its taking Etrade to do some other things for me im not anxious to see how long it will take them to convert over to the new symbol. For trading purposes Etrade has been great but they havent been very speedy for me in general. I hope when the day comes im wrong though.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Dollar, this is common after hours to see the bid price skyrocket. It will correct itself on Monday.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
etrade is sowing XKEM at 0.041 ask "extended hours" than mean monday it will be at 0.041?

the bid for XKEM is at 0.03 "extended hours"

THAT WOULD BE ALMOST 25% GAIN FOR XKEM???
IT IS THIS RIGHT?
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
I will call etrade on Monday to make them aware of the symbol change.
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
its usually screwed up until about 30 minutes before the market opens
 
Posted by BULListic on :
 
I don't think we go to CSVU.OB until it's posted on the OTCBB Daily List, just like the last two days:

http://www.otcbb.com/dailylist/

So I expect it to be FHAL.OB until further notice. Now it may come out first thing Monday morning, but until it does, FHAL.OB it is.
 
Posted by Tmoney on :
 
no symbol change thru your broker until the paper work is done, that is why it is important that hopefully your broker is on top of things. you cant trade it till the paperwork is done, like i said no paperwork sent yet, and i dont think they are open on saturdays or sundays
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
etrade is sowing XKEM at 0.041 ask "extended hours" than mean monday it will be at 0.041?

the bid for XKEM is at 0.03 "extended hours"

THAT WOULD BE ALMOST 25% GAIN FOR XKEM???
IT IS THIS RIGHT?

no...after hours, ask and bids have nothing to do with what the price would be at the open until 5 minutes before the open
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
hey STOCK i know that but the reason i am asking is because some posts said when FHAL changed to cvsu it will be at 7 dollars if that is the case i will put my house for sell to invest in FHAL .GAINS WILL BE 700% .LOL
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
CNN Money even shows the after hours quote. Anyone else ever seen that?

Fronthaul Group Inc(OTC BB:FHAL)
AFTER-
HOURS 1.00 +0.02 / +2.04%

Jul 28 4:07pm ET †
MARKET
CLOSE 0.98 -0.05 / -4.85%

Jul 28 5:20pm ET †
Open: 0.945 Volume: 4,258,286
High: 1.06 Volume Avg: 3,224,400
Low: 0.77 P/E Ratio: 0.00
Prev. Close: 1.03 Dividend Yield: N/A
52-Week Range (Low - High): 0.04 - 1.67
Market Cap (mil): 60.91
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
yehaa i saw that...

but all after hours trades were sells ..
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, this is bizzare. Not exactly fun reading going into the weekend. Why oh why do i continue to follow this? LOL

http://our-street.com/fhal/grenelefe.htm
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Well, this is bizzare. Not exactly fun reading going into the weekend. Why oh why do i continue to follow this? LOL

http://our-street.com/fhal/grenelefe.htm

Do we know this is Rufus? True it is weird, but this deal gone bad is small time compared what we're onto here...no? This stuff goes on all over the place all the time.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Well, this is bizzare. Not exactly fun reading going into the weekend. Why oh why do i continue to follow this? LOL

http://our-street.com/fhal/grenelefe.htm

Do we know this is Rufus? True it is weird, but this deal gone bad is small time compared what we're onto here...no? This stuff goes on all over the place all the time.
Yea, remember the whole BBANE thing?

“On May 12, 2004, we filed suit in Nevada District Court against Enhancement Holdings, LLC, Paul Harris, Benjamin Stanley and John Walsh for fraud, negligent misrepresentation, breach of contract and rescission. The suit was removed to the United States District Court for the District of Nevada on May 19, 2004. The lawsuit arises out of an agreement between the Company and Enhancement Holdings, LLC pursuant to which Enhancement Holdings, LLC had agreed to provide a guaranty to facilitate the acquisition of a line of credit for the Company. On June 8, 2004, the court entered a temporary restraining order enjoining Paul Harris, Benjamin Stanley and John Walsh from holding themselves out as officers and/or directors of the Company and prohibiting them from selling or transferring any shares in the Company. According to the special meeting held on December 9, 2004, we announced the removal of Paul Harris, Ben Stanley and John Walsh as Directors of the Company effective December 16, 2004. …After the removal of Paul Harris, Benjamin Stanley and John Walsh from our board of directors and due to the fact that they have no assets to attach, we decided it would be in the best interest of the Company to dismiss the case without prejudice”

Notice the company Paul Harris worked for in the link i posted above. Its our Rufie. But, yes, these things do happen every day....just not to me i hope. [Smile]

Kinda gets under my skin that in both of those cases he does not go by Rufus and now its all everyone knows him by. Im gonna go have a drink and dream up another conspiracy real quick. I'll be back. [Smile]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Our-street is a liar anyway. He believes that he talks to God and sells the information, he pretended to be a reverend so that he could sell a book,, He fled the country to avoid prosecution from the SEC, he admitted on his web site that he often gets information wrong but that he is judgment proof because he has no money (that page has since been deleted) , and he admits that he shorts stocks that he attacks. Is this really a guy you want advice from?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Our-street is a liar anyway. He believes that he talks to God and sells the information, he pretended to be a reverend so that he could sell a book,, He fled the country to avoid prosecution from the SEC, he admitted on his web site that he often gets information wrong but that he is judgment proof because he has no money (that page has since been deleted) , and he admits that he shorts stocks that he attacks. Is this really a guy you want advice from?

I thought of that as well and dug a bit more to see where his info came from and the only link i have is this one and i have yet to create an account to get to the site.

http://polkonline.com/login.shtml?orq:http://polkonline.com/stories/042002/loc_g renelefe.shtml
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I am not sure who has sold in the paste few days...but in the article from Wednesday's PR is this statement;

If anyone feels that they have been persuaded by the influence of www.our- street.com or www.**********.com not to invest into our company or to sell and would like to join a legal suit to recoup their losses, please send an email with your complete contact information to stopthefraud*cvsu.us .

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060726/clw058.html?.v=59
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
This was discussed at length by Tex and Glassman on the other thread (Hot Stocks) a few days ago...the charges were dismissed with out prejudice...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
This was discussed at length by Tex and Glassman on the other thread (Hot Stocks) a few days ago...the charges were dismissed with out prejudice...

Whew... Thanks 10! -back to the party now! ha ~
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yep..back to the party...!!!!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
This was discussed at length by Tex and Glassman on the other thread (Hot Stocks) a few days ago...the charges were dismissed with out prejudice...

ohhhh my...

am really *trying* here... lol


Ok, kids--who knows what "without prejudice" means?

I mean, in a way? it kinda sorta sounds like "no harm, no foul" right? Almost as though the lawsuit was frivolous....???
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
DISMISSAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE - When a case is dismissed but the plaintiff is allowed to bring a new suit on the same claim.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
This was discussed at length by Tex and Glassman on the other thread (Hot Stocks) a few days ago...the charges were dismissed with out prejudice...

ohhhh my...

am really *trying* here... lol


Ok, kids--who knows what "without prejudice" means?

LOL..All should read the thread on the other board...Tex and Glass really disagreed...I am not sure who "Won"...

Have a good night all!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
10, there's no "winning"

It's simply fact: the court ordered 'em to stop posing, then dismissed "without prejudice." In other words? plaintiff not barred from pursuing again, if necessary.

When a judge dismisses with prejudice, that pretty much shuts the door re pursual in *any* court.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, im having a hard time judging without prejudice myself. Dismissed or not, in both cases it looks like "failure to put up" was kind of the problem right?

I cant wait til this is over!
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
I really have no idea what to think , if we actually are able to sell shares at $15 I think I will be shocked ! Who knows whats going to happen - everyday has brought a totally different story, lol. Monday will bring another twist I'm sure...
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
yea, there will be something to keep us running.. *sigh*..
 
Posted by dog on :
 
So will this stock still be trading on Monday? Or is it halted for the symbol change where all the brokers process it during the day on Monday.. then we trade under the new symbol on Tuesday. Has anyone heard any real disparraging news about this merger. everything I can find seems to support that its going to go thru.
I'm smiling a little more... not sure if I should start dancin.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Ok, so im not out to just post stories of doom and despair. Here is a link with some positive support for our new company..........Naval academy website and all!

http://www.usna.com/News_Pubs/News/ViewNewsDate.asp?Date=7/21/2006
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Please don't freak if everything is not up and running Monday. Rufus has some ties and a great staff around him. Be calm, let's talk things through here like we did with stock lemon's info, -what an azz...

I'll be here, and I have a special D & D person who'll be following this every step of the way. I'm a charter, not a D & D freak, so if something comes up chances are this board will know.

Keep a cool head. Everything so far is a GO. IMO

Everyone keep up the good work, see you here Monday morning [Smile]

GLTA, Peace.
 
Posted by 6digits on :
 
Hers a link to the paltalk conversations with Rufus Harris that went on last week FWIW.

http://www.traders-corner.com/
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
I SAY AGAIN!!!!!every sub.and the new one's inline to become members of new entity ,,as Rufus said must have hundreds of millions in cash EACH to join!!!!!!17 sub's,,maybe up to 5-10 more,,,,let's say 20 for arguments sake---at 250 million each ===is 5 billion!!!MY GOD!!!!and that doesn't take into account CVSU's worth,,,this could be WAY BIG!!!!i'm more than long here!!!and this would explain IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHERE THE PP'S ARE NOW!!!! as Rufus has stated many times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
I SAY AGAIN!!!!!every sub.and the new one's inline to become members of new entity ,,as Rufus said must have hundreds of millions in cash EACH to join!!!!!!17 sub's,,maybe up to 5-10 more,,,,let's say 20 for arguments sake---at 250 million each ===is 5 billion!!!MY GOD!!!!and that doesn't take into account CVSU's worth,,,this could be WAY BIG!!!!i'm more than long here!!!and this would explain IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHERE THE PP'S ARE NOW!!!! as Rufus has stated many times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes, I agree. I went into more detail about that in the thread "What if FHAL opens at $15?"
People need to know what those shares represent!

NO WAY are you getting mine for a couple of bucks! The math here is easy folks. [Smile]

Peace ~
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Posted by: D904(THIS ONE'S ACTUALLY FUNNY!!!)
In reply to: mhinsea who wrote msg# 20819 Date:7/28/2006 5:31:34 PM
Post #of 21824

Originally Posted by Snivvle
My bet, hope its right:

1) Monday 31JULY - 10K/Q out, Trading Halted
2) Tuesday 1AUG - Trading opens at $15
3) Tuesday 1AUG - Snivvle Makes a load of $$
4) Tuesday 1AUG - Naysayers become 10X more jealous
5) Tuesday 1AUG evening - "I told you so's" are thrown in every direction possible
6) Tuesday 1AUG night - Every long sleeps well, knowing that when they awaken on 2AUG, they will be able to purchase cars, houses, islands, and for some longs; planets
7) All of August - SEE 5)
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.****************.com/specialstock/specialstocklogin.html ----stock lemon exposed AGAIN!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Sygy..the stars?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.w a l l s t r e e t d i g e s t . c o m /specialstock/specialstocklogin.html
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
I wish you guys the best but if ********** saying than "Rufus, it might be time to hire a lawyer"

be careful....
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I'm still holding my shares of FHAL. I haven't pumped or bashed but have within this and other threads provided whatever DD I have found. There are some positives and some negatives regarding this stock right now and disregarding any of it is not wise. There are some negatives in Rufus's past which IMO cannot be ignored. The positive is the fact that since this merger the Float has been gut in half. I personally verified this with the Transfer Agent. Integrity stock Transfer on Friday. The Float was 48M as of the last filing and posted on Yahoo Finance 48 Million Float Friday it was right at 24 Million. The absorbtion of CVSU into FHAL was posted Friday on the OTCBB, both of those are as promised by Rufus. I still have a bit of concern since most of this is to be taken on Rufus's word without independent verification.

I guess my summation is caution. This is a 50/50 proposition at this time. Only invest what you can afford to lose.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Posted by: Charlatan(HERE'S ANOTHER)I_HUB
In reply to: Austin6310 who wrote msg# 21266 Date:7/29/2006 1:46:05 AM
Post #of 21851

I must be the .0001 % then...


I know a few things about trading. I don't trust the words that come out of anyones mouth, CEO or message board troll. What I do trust is my own due dilligence. I have researched the bond, even called my budy who is finacial consultant and had one of the brokers he works with look it up. I have checked out Georgia Aerospace and contacted and verified CVSU's involvement. I have done checks into AISS's management team. I have cross checked thru MTC Technologies and Lockheed Martin.

The bond and AISS alone value this stocks market cap considerable higher than $1.00 a share. Will it trade at $15.00 a share ? I honestly don't know. Will the stock crash from $15.00 upon open ? Probably, but again I don't know. What I do know is I bought at .16 a share. I also know the stock is worth more than $1.00. So until it starts trading closer to it's true market cap I will continue to hold. Any smart investor would do the same.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10529670
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
----Current Joint Ventures----
American International Smart Structure
Brittenum Brothers Entertainment, Inc.
Rocky Road Records, Inc.
Seko Management Inc.

----Current CVSU Subsidiaries----
Tserof Holdings Inc
CVSU Coffee Shop
Equine Solutions Inc

Waatle Merger Subsidiaries
Live Mortgage Free
Federal Chamber of Commerce
Center State Beverage
LotteryFever.com
InfinityOne Inc
Amruss Group, LLC
LoanShoppers.com
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
that is old 4/5/2006 what is your point?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?symbol=fhal
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
sorry if it's old ,,just looking aroun and posting,,and i'm sure some here will not mind as this is the FHAL thread FOR NOW!!!
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
i know about GTXC law sue againt s t o c k l e m o n but GTXC haven't improve since then....
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
CVSU: additional 3 billion

“We have also received an offer for an additional 3 billion in Global and Euro Bonds from the Caracas Group and the Board is currently making the necessary arrangement for receipt and securitization.” stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris."

5/29/06 Conversion Solutions announces Funds Management Agreement with Emiro Holdings Corporation.

KENNESAW, Ga., May 29, 2006/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC: CVSU) announces that during the SB-2 filing process the following current events have taken place.

CVSU would like to announce the signing of a Joint Venture and Funds Management agreement with Emiro Holdings Corporation, a Canadian Corporation. This agreement brings the ability and use of credit derivatives such as a credit default swap or total return swap allowing the corporation to tender its assets for securitization.

Emiro Holdings Corporation will manage all European Funds for CVSU and facilitate the relationships that CVSU will need for large market debentures. The term of this Agreement shall be five (5) years, with mutually agreeable renewals up to another five (5) years.

Under the contract CVSU will receive $20,000,000 in initial capital.

“We have also received an offer for an additional 3 billion in Global and Euro Bonds from the Caracas Group and the Board is currently making the necessary arrangement for receipt and securitization.” stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris/

Attention Shareholders, Note Holders and Option Holders; Prior to the SB-2 filing CVSU requests and recommends that all Subsidiary Contract holders, Shareholders, Note Holders and Options Holders update their Mailing Addresses and Contract contacts information. Go to the shareholder update page at CVSU.US and print the page. Upon completion please fax your information to 404-393-9824.

About Conversion Solutions, Inc

CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at www.cvsu.us.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?symbol=fhal

Hope you make a boatload SYGY, sounds like you "earned it."

I find it funny that a stock that will be halted would be on a "watch list." ha ~

You know the whole darn market is talking about this thing it seems, among friends it comes up. I'm not saying that's a sign or anything, just that there are more people right now talking about this stock then I believe I've ever seen,
-IMO.

And "we're" what they're talking about, -we are right in the gut wreching THICK of it ~

"GOD I LOVE IT!!!!" lol ~
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
MM list for FHAL(GEE'S JUST SMALL ONE EH!!!!!)


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Posted by MTPromises on :
 
good stuff, SYGY . . . yes, small list indeed! [Smile]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12328013
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Taken directly from www.georgiaaerospace.com:

HOMELAND SECURITY

The Pentagon is implementing Network Centric Operations (NCO) which involves linking all means of command, control, communications, computers, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance. Georgia Aerospace Systems, and its subsidiaries, American International Smart Structures are postured to become a major technology provider in Network Centric Operations with products like embedded sensors. The technology will be compatible with the Global Information Grid to provide real time information to the war fighter.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?symbol=fhal

Hope you make a boatload SYGY, sounds like you "earned it."

I find it funny that a stock that will be halted would be on a "watch list." ha ~

You know the whole darn market is talking about this thing it seems, among friends it comes up. I'm not saying that's a sign or anything, just that there are more people right now talking about this stock then I believe I've ever seen,
-IMO.

And "we're" what they're talking about, -we are right in the gut wreching THICK of it ~

"GOD I LOVE IT!!!!" lol ~

Yea, thats a wild feeling eh? Ive mentioned it to some others already, this was my first real trade. I never knew what i was getting into when i bought in but i bought in early. Its been quite a learning experience and personally after the symbol change i will be holding SOME of my shares for the long haul.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
The formation of American International Smart Structures is just a sample of the vision of management from Georgia Aerospace and CVSU and we are very pleased to be participating. The contributed defense contract by Georgia Aerospace to AISS will ensure the profitability and success of this venture," stated Rufus Paul Harris, CEO, CVSU.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Do than you gentlemen feel that in the long haul this stock and the shares promised in the subsidiary companies will eventually be worth more than $15 once the dust settles and this stock equilibrates?
If everyone tries to dump at the opening bell,it will drop like a rock, but who's buying? There's no way we can all sell our shares from the git-go. I got in at less than a dollar.... not in the teens like some of you... and after the research and all the stress of this week, I feel like seeing it thru for the long, as I'm not willing to sell this stock at $2.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Oh.. so you think FHAL will still be trading on Monday?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=cvsu:US
 
Posted by Wit on :
 
Quick question-
Just catching up on this thread, how is it that your all sure that this will open up at $15 on Tues.
or be even close to that?

When is the new cusip in effect?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
gee's someone with a cystal ball ,came here and told us! it might not be tuesday! but it will come!! CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT!!15$ now we are waiting for the stock fairy !!TO CONFIRM!!!lol!!!!!
 
Posted by Wit on :
 
Ok, so I take it you don't really know.
I'll wait for an educated answer.

(My last post for the night, I'll check back tomorrow).
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
There really is no assurance other than Rufus, as I stated earlier. But if that is the case there is a scenario no one has mentioned. This is strictly speculation nothing more. The only tradable shares after the merge/conversion will be FHAL. CVSU had to pull cert and it will take time for those to trade. THe float will be 24M of FHAL shares.

That would mean that FHAL shareholders are in control. What would happen if everyone put in sells at $20 or higher? would the PPS rise?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
wally, should be returned "out of trading range"
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
sorry WIT we will all figure it out soon!!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
wally, should be returned "out of trading range"

It would have to be after the name and Cusip change. I'm not sure if anyone can actually put in a limit sell on FHAL that would still be valid after the change. Like I have said I have my reservations on all this but was dreaming about the post merger situation IF all comes down as stated.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
wally, should be returned "out of trading range"

It would have to be after the name and Cusip change. I'm not sure if anyone can actually put in a limit sell on FHAL that would still be valid after the change. Like I have said I have my reservations on all this but was dreaming about the post merger situation IF all comes down as stated.

GLTA
Wally

to be clear, was responding to:

"That would mean that FHAL shareholders are in control. What would happen if everyone put in sells at $20 or higher? would the PPS rise?"

my emphasis...
 
Posted by romberry on :
 
Georgia Aerospace? Why is it that Georgia Aerospace Manufacturing Inc returns exactly one hit and one hit only on Google?

http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22georgia+aerospace+sy stems+manufacturing%22&btnG=Search
 
Posted by bloodykitten on :
 
Why can't I post links without ********* in the link?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I believe it's just http://www.georgiaaerospace.com/

type georgia aerospace in a google search
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
People on Ihub are posting these military links to supposed CVSU news. What do you guys think?

http://blo ggeroffline.bl ogspot.com/2006/07/conversion-solutions-inc-negotiates.html

Remove the spaces
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
oh my. thats sure nice to see on a sunday!

that blo gger has been registered since 2000 - he's got tons of blo g entries on government stuff.

here's the nutshell for those that dont click over:

Conversion Solutions, Inc. , Kennesaw, Ga, negotiates a $87,429,990 firm-fixed-price contract.
This action provides for joint air-to-surface logistics temperately control missle actuators, initial operational capability and full operational capability assets.
This effort supports foreign military sales to the Commonwealth of Australia (89 percent). At this time, $87,429,990 has been obligated.
Solicitations began March 2005 and negotiations wil complete Aug 2006.
This work will be complete December 2007.
Headquarters 328th Armament Systems Group, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., is the contracting activity (FA8682-06-D-0072-0023 (long lead assets and FA8682-06-D-0072-0023 (balance of assets).



[URL=http://blo ggeroffline.bl ogspot.com/2006/07/conversion-solutions-inc-negotiates.html]http://****gerofflin e.********.com/2006/07/conversion-solutions-inc-negotiates.h tml[/URL]
http://www.blo gger.com/profile/77838


---> SOMETHING TO NOTE: it says negotiations will complete AUG 2006. perhaps that will be one of the first big PRs to support our $15? [Razz]


~BB

[edit: whats with the **** over the word b l o g all of the sudden???]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Good thought BB!!!

Whatever the outcome....This will prove to be quite interesting in days to come..

Your pretty sharp for a Girl!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yeah well, hate to burst y'alls bubble so quickly but...

http://www.defenselink.mil/Contracts/Contract.aspx?ContractID=3295

AIR FORCE

Lockheed Martin Co., Orlando, Fla., is being awarded an $87,429,990 firm-fixed-price contract. This action provides for joint air-to-surface standoff missile, initial operational capability and full operational capability assets. This effort supports foreign military sales to the Commonwealth of Australia (100 percent). At this time, $87,429,990 has been obligated. Solicitations began March 2006 and negotiations were complete July 2006. This work will be complete December 2011. Headquarters 328th Armament Systems Group, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., is the contracting activity (FA8682-06-D-0072-0002 (long lead assets and FA8682-06-D-0072-0004 (balance of assets).


same press release, with a few things changed.

looks like someone is plagiarizing the DoD website... um, them gov't guys may not like that [Wink]


now, if cvsu got the sub-contract, which rufus did say something about a sub-contract joint venture, then maybe just maybe...

~BB
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Maybe Lockheed Martin is buying CVSU out after the merge...lol
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
yeah well, hate to burst y'alls bubble so quickly but...

http://www.defenselink.mil/Contracts/Contract.aspx?ContractID=3295

AIR FORCE

Lockheed Martin Co., Orlando, Fla., is being awarded an $87,429,990 firm-fixed-price contract. This action provides for joint air-to-surface standoff missile, initial operational capability and full operational capability assets. This effort supports foreign military sales to the Commonwealth of Australia (100 percent). At this time, $87,429,990 has been obligated. Solicitations began March 2006 and negotiations were complete July 2006. This work will be complete December 2011. Headquarters 328th Armament Systems Group, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., is the contracting activity (FA8682-06-D-0072-0002 (long lead assets and FA8682-06-D-0072-0004 (balance of assets).


same press release, with a few things changed.

looks like someone is plagiarizing the DoD website... um, them gov't guys may not like that [Wink]


now, if cvsu got the sub-contract, which rufus did say something about a sub-contract joint venture, then maybe just maybe...

~BB

Plagiarism? Of what? Can I see what you're comparing it to?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
yeah ur looking at it kitty.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
1 more day till we all get thrown in the frying pan ,,,things gonna get pretty hot in the next few days!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Kitty...BB has posted what the bl og said and then the link to the article that states the very same thing...No big deal IMO...

BB's post "read" like it was a "bad" thing...but I am not reading it as "bad"...

Wow..now I'm confused...LOL


quote:
Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
yeah well, hate to burst y'alls bubble so quickly but...

http://www.defenselink.mil/Contracts/Contract.aspx?ContractID=3295

AIR FORCE

Lockheed Martin Co., Orlando, Fla., is being awarded an $87,429,990 firm-fixed-price contract. This action provides for joint air-to-surface standoff missile, initial operational capability and full operational capability assets. This effort supports foreign military sales to the Commonwealth of Australia (100 percent). At this time, $87,429,990 has been obligated. Solicitations began March 2006 and negotiations were complete July 2006. This work will be complete December 2011. Headquarters 328th Armament Systems Group, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., is the contracting activity (FA8682-06-D-0072-0002 (long lead assets and FA8682-06-D-0072-0004 (balance of assets).


same press release, with a few things changed.

looks like someone is plagiarizing the DoD website... um, them gov't guys may not like that [Wink]


now, if cvsu got the sub-contract, which rufus did say something about a sub-contract joint venture, then maybe just maybe...

~BB

Plagiarism? Of what? Can I see what you're comparing it to?

 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Extreme caution is warrented today and tomorrow on any posting's that scream of outlandish claims.."April Fools could really bring out the pranksters"..

Problem?: Yep, many folks maybe so on edge they re-act before doing the DD to find out whats what..
 
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
 
April Fools could really bring out the pranksters ITS AUGUST?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Dr. Thomas Mensah, a world renowned inventor with 7 US and worldwide patents in Fiber Optics over a period of six years, was born in 1950 in Kumasi, Ghana.
He won the French Government Fellowship in 1974 to do graduate studies in Chemical Engineering at Montpelier University France, after receiving his undegraduate degree in the same field from UST Kumasi ( 1970-74). Prior to his undergraduate work, Dr. Mensah attended Wesley College practice school, Kumasi and Adisadel college Cape Coast. Dr. Mensah who is fluent in French won the National French competition in Ghana, both at the O Levels (1968) and A Levels 1970. held at Accra.

He holds Ph.D in Chemical Engineering from Montpelier University 1978, and a Certificate in Modeling of Chemical Processes from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. (1977). He has held high level engineering positions in US industry first at Air Products and Chemicals (1980-83), then Corning Glass Works, in Fiber Optics research Sullivan Park, New York 1983-1986, where he built the the fastest Fiber Optics draw and coating process, 50 meters per second. He holds 4 patents for this effort. He joined AT&T Bell laboratories in 1986 and led the the program to develop fiber optic reels used in the guided missile program. This effort led to the development of a system that was successfully deployed at missile speeds up to Mach 1 (The Speed of sound). He received 3 US patents on this technology. Dr. Mensah also Founded the High Tech firm Supercond Technology in Norcross that specializes in Aerospace and Communication products. His firm focuses on advanced structural materials development for Supersonic US Fighter Aircraft like the F-22, the fastest Jet in the World.

On the International level Dr. Mensah is a founding member of the Emerging Technologies area for the American Institute of Chemical Engineers (AIChE). He is the first and only black person to serve as the National Chairman of the Materials and Engineering Sciences Division of the AIChE. He has edited two book volumes for AIChE, namely Fiber Optics Engineering, 1987 and Superconductor Engineering, 1992. Dr. Mensah was elected to serve as a Director and member of the Council of Board of Directors of this pre-eminent engineering organization from 1987 -1990. He also served on the visiting committee/Advisory board for Chemical Engineering at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology,MIT from 1988 -1992.

As a world expert in the field of advanced materials, Dr. Mensah has worked on specialized projects for NASA (Superconductors for space communications), the US Army (Smart munitions Picatinny Arsenal) and US Department of Energy, (Fiber optics sensors for Highway Traffic monitoring). Dr. Mensah has additional patents pending in some of these areas.

Dr. Mensah has recently led a team in the design and comissioning of one of the worlds most advanced scalable high vacuum, Radio Frequency sputtering system used for fabricating computer chips and other electronic products. His current work include next generation MEMS (Micro Electro Mechanical Systems) and Nano systems Technology. Dr Mensah has other ventures in the US aimed at improving technology transfer to developing nations and enhancing trade such as the African-Ecommerce.Com Corporation ,as well as web based training programs aimed at producing a competitive workforce for the 21 st century using the internet platform.

He is featured in the Marquis Who is Who in Science and Technology, as well as Who is Who in Optical Engineering. Since 1994, A travelling exhibit featuring 100 Black achievers in Science and Technology including Dr. Mensah is shown in major cities in the United States. He is also featured in the Black Inventors traveling exhibit around the world.

Dr. Mensah delivers technical presentations around the world, and has chaired several symposia for the American Institute of Chemical Engineers.


Below are selected publications by Dr. Mensah. 1. T.O. Mensah et al, Radiation Effects on Optical Fibers; Proceedings of the European Conference on Optical Fibers , ECOC, Helsinki, 1987.

2. T.O. Mensah. Enhancement of Strauss secondary flow mixing in thin film commercial reactors. Chemical Engineering Communication Journal, 1985.

3. T.O. Mensah et al Analysis (Finite Element) of Composite Overwrap, Filament wound structures, Proceedings ,Army Research workshop Conference, New Orleans, September, 1994.

4. T.O. Mensah et al Optical Properties of Epitaxial PLT Thin Films, Proceedings of Material Research Society, Annual Conference , Boston ,1995.

5. T.O. Mensah , Editor, Superconductor Engineering, AIChE Symposium Series Book Volume 88, No. 287, 1992.

6. T.O. Mensah, Editor, Fiber Optics Engineering, AIChE Symposium Series , Book Volume 283, 1987.

7 T. O. Mensah, US Patent number 5,035,169 Guided Vehicle System, July 30, 1991.

8. T.O. Mensah, US Patent number 4,692,615, Apparatus for monitoring Tension in a moving fiber, September, 1987.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Dr.+Thomas+Mensah&btnG=Search


James Klugh

President Clinton today announced his intent to appoint Major General James R. Klugh U.S.A. (Ret.) to serve as a member of the National Veterans Business Development Corporation.

http://clinton6.nara.gov/2000/12/2000-12-18-klugh-named-to-national-veterans-bus iness-development.ht....

The JCS directed the establishment of the Joint Chemical
Defense Coordination Committee with the Army ODCSLOG as the executive
agent. The committee has oversight of all chemical defense items to
include clothing, alarms, detectors, decontaminants, shelters and
antidotes/pretreatments. MG Klugh retired has been designated as the
consultant to the DCSIDG for chemical matters.

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:1LLpi3spVAkJ:www.gulflink.osd.mil/declassdoc s/otsg/19961030/1025....

Thomas Kuczynski

For the past 25 years Mr. Kuczynski has been a principal lobbyist for a major U.S. natural gas company. During that time he developed very close relations with congressmen and senators, particularly from the Republican Party. His efforts in raising millions of dollars in campaign funds for these Republican officials have been greatly appreciated, and his influence among members of Congress is widely recognized within the Washington lobbying community. As a result of this funding support, Mr. Kuczynski has been able to achieve numerous victories within the Congress for his clients. He has particularly strong ties to the chairmen of the House Appropriation Committees. These powerful congressmen determine which programs will be funded in each year's budget.


Don Eirich

After serving 20 years in the U.S. Marine Corps, Col. Eirich was appointed by the Republican Reagan White House to serve as the Director of Southeast Asian Affairs in the Department of Defense. In that capacity, Eirich was recognized as an expert on Southeast Asia and was awarded the Secretary of Defense's Medal for Outstanding Public Service in recognition of his contribution to the successful transfer of power between the Marcos and Aquino Administrations in the Philippines. During this time he was responsible for maintaining the defense relationship with the Philippine Armed Forces against criticism within the Congress and became a trusted associate of the Honorable Caspar Weinberger, the former Secretary of Defense, the Honorable Richard Armitage, the former Deputy Secretary of State, and the Honorable James Kelly, the former Assistant Secretary of State for East Asia. Upon leaving the U.S. Government, Col. Eirich became an effective representative of companies wishing to do business in Washington. One of his notable clients was Indonesian Aircraft Industries (IPTN). While under contract with IPTN, Col Eirich obtained the agreement of the U.S. Department of Transportation to establish a procedure that would lead to the granting of an FAA airworthiness certificate for the CN-235. Col Eirich was also able to obtain the agreement of the U.S. Department of Defense to offer financing for a sale of the CN-235 to the Philippine Air force.

Colonel Eirich, a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy, is currently a senior official with an NGO, the U.S.-Indonesia Society (USINDO). In that capacity, he handles defense affairs and relations with the Congress. Last year Colonel Eirich led a successful effort on the Hill that resulted in the restoration of defense relations between the US and Indonesia
 
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
 
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Problem?: Yep, many folks maybe so on edge they re-act before doing the DD to find out whats what..
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Posted by betting babe on :
 
didnt say good or bad, just gave two sides of the story...

could be real news, could be the PR we will get later.

then again, it is nearly identical to a previous PR from Lockheed that can be found on the dept of defense website, so one could judge the post bogus.

then again, maybe it's a subcontract...

dunno. [Roll Eyes]

~BB
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.defenselink.mil/Contracts/Contract.aspx?ContractID=3295

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/wms/findPage.do?dsp=fnec&ti=111
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by IMAKEMONEY:
April Fools could really bring out the pranksters ITS AUGUST?

-------------------------------------------------
Thats just the point!!! People are already talking Aprils fools and people are falling for it! LMAO

Some of the reactions earlier on other boards just show's many people need a good nights sleep..LOL


People are actually re-acting to Aprils fools! It is absolutly hilarious..
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
look under air force on first link
 
Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
 
Got ya dust.im slow this morning.lol
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.maconworks.com/documents-links/nra_aerospace-company-to-hire-200-in-h ouston.asp THIS IS OLD BUT THEY ARE GETTING BIGGER!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Look....no one is gonna find a smoking gun at this point with all the DD done by this boards members and other entities... if Rufus is screwing us... we won't know until after this pans out. If he did... he is a genius con artist, asoon to be in jail. I'm thinking that this is not the case.
I'm not gonna give a whole lot of creedence to any new posters who are just trying to tweak our emotions. If we all stand firm, all will profit.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Note: Awarded $87,429,990 firm-fixed-price contract!!!


Note: Awarded $339,495,781 firm-fixed -price contract!!!---------if these are both for real!!then this is good!!
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
It's a waiting game now. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Indeed.. no emotions people. This is business. If you let your emotions rule, likely you will screw up. The facts look good... we are all in this gamble til the end. Too many people are going to either try and burst our bubble and get a hold of any shares we panic dump tomorrow... that is if trades are allowed. Too little, too late... let it ride.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
I guess this will change SOON!!!

Period Moving Average Price Change Percent Change Average Volume
5-Day 1.1300 -0.1600 -14.04% 8966740
20-Day 0.5600 +0.8950 1052.94% 6857110
50-Day 0.2720 +0.8950 1052.94% 3184226
100-Day 0.2720 +0.8950 1052.94% 3184226
200-Day 0.2720 +0.8950 1052.94% 3184226
Year to Date 0.2720 +0.8950 1052.94% 3184226

Period Raw Stochastic Stochastic %K Stochastic %D Average True Range
9-Day 50.54% 59.19% 64.15% 0.3499
14-Day 56.23% 61.97% 65.59% 0.2755
20-Day 57.05% 62.38% 65.75% 0.2181

Period Relative Strength Percent R Historic Volatility MACD Oscillator
9-Day 60.25% 49.46% 564.90% -0.0606
14-Day 63.21% 43.77% 563.01% +0.2482
20-Day 64.38% 42.95% 496.57% +0.4467
50-Day 64.02% 42.31% 418.56% +0.7346
100-Day N/A N/A N/A N/A
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
anybody else notice that CVSU 's website is down !!!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Uploading new script?
I wonder.
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
whats the site again???
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Up on my server. Pulls up immediately....no changes
 
Posted by dog on :
 
They moved the filings page to the home page? Are they setting it up so that it's a direct link to the soon to be filed 10K!!!!!
 
Posted by 6digits on :
 
sorry about the traderscorner link the conversation appears to have been taken down. Can't imagine why.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Yes the site has been modified. www.cvsu.us (the home address) now goes directly to the Filings page, where the SEC 8k is.... will there be a new post soon? 10K 10K 10K 10K 10K ;}
 
Posted by dog on :
 
whoops... odd script on their site.. it always goes back to the tab you had open last when you revisit... my bad
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
HAVE YOU GUYS ACTUALLY READ THIS????
MARKET OPPORTUNITY



American International Smart Structure’s portfolio of proprietary blends and manufacturing processes equip it to exploit the relentless advance in the use of composites. The Company's goal is to become a leading, low-cost supplier of custom-designed composite materials and structures. Management has focused its sights on those markets where (1) the demand for composite materials and structures is relatively well defined; (2) high-performance end-use applications justify higher materials and fabrication costs; (3) and where contractors are able to charge much of their capital equipment expenses to the client. Management's initial commercial success has come in the defense segment, where the planning horizons are longer and where government's status as a customer of both outsourced R6D and finished-products has reduced market uncertainties for advanced materials suppliers. Meanwhile, the Company continues to fill its pipeline with products that address the broader aerospace and civilian markets. (See Primary Markets; Other Key Markets






PARTNERSHIPS AND ALLIANCES



American International Smart Structure has forged a series of cooperative relationships to exploit flourishing opportunities in several key end markets. The partnerships have served to reduce the Company's technology risk, limit its capital commitments, provide a deeper pool of human capital, lower the barriers to entry in a mature market, and build critical mass in key niches.



KEY COLLABORATORS



Collaborators include major defense contractors, national research centers, federal agencies, and vendors along the supply chain: Boeing, Coalescent Technologies, Concurrent Technology Corporation, Dimensions International, Diversified Machining Services, EDS Corporation, General Dynamics, Ingersoll Milling Machines, MSC Software, Northrop Grumman, Oak Ridge National Laboratories, Sikorsky, and SSAI. (See Primary Market; Other Key Markets)



LOCKHEED MARTIN: MENTOR-PROTÉGÉ



Lockheed Martin and Georgia Aerospace (Co-founding Corporation) have a long-standing relationship under the Department of Defense's Mentor-Protégé Program. The program was established by Washington's National Defense Authorization Act as a mechanism for assisting small businesses in qualifying for Pentagon contracts. Lockheed Martin, the nation's largest defense contractor, chose a subsidiary of Georgia Aerospace as its protégé in 1992. Under those auspices, Georgia Aerospace, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and Pratt 6 Whitney have worked closely on the world's most technologically-advanced fighter during the Engineering and Manufacturing (EMD) phase. Lock­heed Martin has provided invaluable technical training and management support to American International Smart Structure threw its relationship with Georgia Aerospace. As such, the relationship has been an enduring source of knowledge, competencies, and insights that form the basis of existing products and constitute a competitive advantage for American International Smart Structure. (See Preferred Access; Board of Directors).



OPERATIONS



American International Smart Structure has identified two facilities to house its administrative, technology, engineering and manufacturing activi­ties - F/A-22 (Georgia) and F-35 (Texas). The Warner Robins, Georgia facility is a former Boeing operation located in close proximity to Lockheed Aeronautical F/A-22 assembly line. The area has a highly-motivated pool of non-union workers with specialized engineering, information technology, technical skills and security clearances within the aerospace, defense, and information technology industries. Many area workers have been previously employed by Boeing, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, or the Warner-Robins Air Force Base. The nearby Middle Georgia College trains and certifies workers in aircraft technology and laboratory operations. The business is headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia.



PRIMARY MARKET: MILITARY AEROSPACE AND ARMAMENTS



Military demand is expected to remain buoyant (over the next 5-10 years) due to heavy spending on (1) force transformation, (2) modernization, and (3) wartime missions necessitated by post-Cold War instability. American International Smart Structure expects to benefit from this trend, along with the secular shift towards composite materials, and market share gains in ancillary markets over the forecast period. Below are anticipated spending levels and compound annual growth rates for the investment accounts - procurement and RDT&E (Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation).
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
American International Smart Structure (Georgia Aerospace) and its alliance partners have specific RDT&E/procurement programs underway for the following Defense Depart­ment weapons systems. In terms of size and near-term impact, the F/A-22 and the F-35 are two of the Company's most significant revenue-producing opportunities
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Lockheed Martin has won 8 of 12 contract competitions this year. In recent months, the company has been selected as the prime contractor on the Joint Common Missile (estimated contract value: $5.5 billion over 20 years), the LSI (Lead Systems Integrator) on the Aerial Common Sensor SD&D contract ($8 billion over 25 years), the sole contractor on the Compact Kinetic Energy Missile ($2 billion in total value), the contractor for the Navy's new satellite system, MUDS ($2.1 billion over the first seven years), and one of two companies selected as possible LSI’s for the Littoral Combat Ship ($14 billion in total value). American International Smart Structure’s close operational and strategic relationship ensures it a highly visible position on sub-systems put out to bid by Lockheed Martin
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Yes I'm afraid we are all in the business of war... which has proven to have already made the super-rich to uber-riche .... bout time the little guy has a chance to get into this market, cuz I don't see a whole lotta peace happening anytime soon.
Just remember if we make money on this deal ... we put to good use and keep the real things in perspective.
Sorry so sappy...hehe

Yes.. I've read it.. many connections and subs with very profitable companies, some are the big boys for sure.
How in the hell has CVSU stayed privately owned this long at their current level of business? These guys have some connecs for sure.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
YES DOG THAT IS FOR SURE-Rufus stated it's not what you know it's WHO ?you know???
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
question for someone here? what does the area on there website actually mean !!!does CVSU actually own this or what????? CVSU CBS SECURITIES
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Yup.
Hey the Reverand of Fraud Finance from Our-Street is posting on iHub.

Gotta say this has been one of the wierdest weeks of my life.
On some postings (not what I'm sayin), others are speculating that if the chain of subs, spinoffs, and buddy-buddy connecs all pan out.. this stock could be trading at more than $60 PPS at 90-120 days.

Would be nice but its too similar to the dreams I've had on the rare occasion that I purchased a Big Game Lotto ticket ... I didn't wake up rich on those days either. Oh well a little dreaming never hurt anyone unless they leveraged all their ASSets on this and it doesn't happen. I guess I have a $10,000 lotto ticket, with better odds in my opinion after doing the DD.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Have you seen this?


Thursday July 27, 10:23 pm ET KENNESAW, Ga., July 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC: CVSU - News), (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL - News), a Delaware Corporation, aquires DEFENSE LOGISTICS AGENCY contract.....

Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC: CVSU - News), Charlottesville, VA., is being awarded a maximum $339,495,781 fixed-price with economic-price-adjustment contract for direct supply of transportation means to deliver 25 convoys. The using services are Army, Navy, Air Force, and federal civilian agencies. There were 145 proposals solicited and 23 responded. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The date of performance completion is September 30, 2008. Contracting activity is Defense Energy Support Center, Fort Belvoir, Va. (SP0600-05-DD-7535).
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
yup!!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
uhhh... sh*t.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
If the merger goes thru and this shows up in the 10k... the profits will be ridiculous.. no?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
this will be a ride! to the moon!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
dog where did u get that??
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
not selling 1/3 of my shares till 100!$$$$$
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
there are two pr's !!i just hope there real!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Some guy posted another site... still searching newswire to confirm. SYGY.. where did you see it?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
i'll try and get the link also! saw it on other board,,it was part of **** something but guys were also saying that the guy who runs the **** site is credible for like 25 years!!!don't have an opinion YET!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
b -l-o-g-site
 
Posted by dog on :
 
that's what I heard... but it's suppose to be a newswire release so it should be able to be confirmed... trying now
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
for DD? start here...

http://www.desc.dla.mil/default.asp

and quit chewing your fingernails.... [Razz]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
can't confirm it!!! so it's still up in the air! but we will probably see it in 10K!!!!maybe it was hacked!! and i really believe we'llbe seeing bigger stuff anyways!!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
not really chewin fingernails Glass...
hehe.. just rainy and hot up here in Michigan.. and I'm just entertaining myself... I'm in long no matter what happens
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://****geroffline.********.com/2006/07/conversion-solutions-inc-negotiates.h tml--heres the first one!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Posted by: Austin6310(I-HUB)
In reply to: liable who wrote msg# 22511 Date:7/30/2006 10:51:11 AM
Post #of 22739

If ya read under the contracts awarded for july,28th...Lockheed Martin was awarded a very similar contract.

Coversion Solutions contract.. and under this is the Lockheed contract...

http://****geroffline.********.com/2006/07/conversion-solutions-inc-negotiates.h tml
Conversion Solutions, Inc. , Kennesaw, Ga, negotiates a $87,429,990 firm-fixed-price contract. This action provides for joint air-to-surface logistics temperately control missle actuators, initial operational capability and full operational capability assets. This effort supports foreign military sales to the Commonwealth of Australia (89 percent). At this time, $87,429,990 has been obligated. Solicitations began March 2005 and negotiations wil complete Aug 2006. This work will be complete December 2007. Headquarters 328th Armament Systems Group, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., is the contracting activity (FA8682-06-D-0072-0023 (long lead assets and FA8682-06-D-0072-0023 (balance of assets).

LOCKHEED CONTRACT...
http://****geroffline.********.com/2006/07/contracts-for-july-28-2006.html
Lockheed Martin Co., Orlando, Fla., is being awarded an $87,429,990 firm-fixed-price contract. This action provides for joint air-to-surface standoff missile, initial operational capability and full operational capability assets. This effort supports foreign military sales to the Commonwealth of Australia (100 percent). At this time, $87,429,990 has been obligated. Solicitations began March 2006 and negotiations were complete July 2006. This work will be complete December 2011. Headquarters 328th Armament Systems Group, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., is the contracting activity (FA8682-06-D-0072-0002 (long lead assets and FA8682-06-D-0072-0004 (balance of assets)
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Got pretty burned out on this last week. Didn't post once all day on Friday. I'm just waiting to see what Rufis does. Still in long. Let's hope he does everything he said. GLTA
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://****geroffline.********.com/
 
Posted by dog on :
 
http://www.defenselink.mil/Contracts/Contract.aspx?ContractID=3295
AIR FORCE

Lockheed Martin Co., Orlando, Fla., is being awarded an $87,429,990 firm-fixed-price contract. This action provides for joint air-to-surface standoff missile, initial operational capability and full operational capability assets. This effort supports foreign military sales to the Commonwealth of Australia (100 percent). At this time, $87,429,990 has been obligated. Solicitations began March 2006 and negotiations were complete July 2006. This work will be complete December 2011. Headquarters 328th Armament Systems Group, Eglin Air Force Base, Fla., is the contracting activity (FA8682-06-D-0072-0002 (long lead assets and FA8682-06-D-0072-0004 (balance of assets
).
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://****geroffline.********.com/2006/07/conversion-solutions-inc-aquires.html --found it!!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Posted by: some_extra_dough
In reply to: None Date:7/30/2006 9:42:03 AM
Post #of 22746

Note: Awarded $339,495,781 fixed price

ANOTHER GREAT FIND BY SKEPTIC0!!!:

Posted by: skeptic0
In reply to: None Date:7/30/2006 7:24:11 AM
Post #of 22463

http://****geroffline.********.com/2006/07/conversion-solutions-inc-aquires.html
Military News -- US Army, US Navy, US Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard news: Conversion Solutions, Inc. Aquires Military Funding Contract " BigWheels


Thursday July 27, 10:23 pm ET KENNESAW, Ga., July 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC: CVSU - News), (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL - News), a Delaware Corporation, aquires DEFENSE LOGISTICS AGENCY contract.....

Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC: CVSU - News), Charlottesville, VA., is being awarded a maximum $339,495,781 fixed-price with economic-price-adjustment contract for direct supply of transportation means to deliver 25 convoys. The using services are Army, Navy, Air Force, and federal civilian agencies. There were 145 proposals solicited and 23 responded. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The date of performance completion is September 30, 2008. Contracting activity is Defense Energy Support Center, Fort Belvoir, Va. (SP0600-05-DD-7535).


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Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
July 27...why wasn't this PR'ed?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
add b-l-o-g then b-l-o-g-s-p-o-t no spaces
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
SYGY....the post with the huge contract, why wasn't that PR'ed on newswires.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
thats why it's still up in the air!! it might not be real!! the pr !! can't beleive it to be true unless we see it somewhere more mainstream,,,but it does make you think,,,how pr's will affect stock when westart moving EH!!!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
http://****geroffline.********.com/2006_07_29_****geroffline_archive.html

what is this... who puts this stuff out?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
http://****geroffline.********.com/2006_07_29_****geroffline_archive.html

after double slash it reads: ****geroffline(dot)********(dot)com/2006_6_07_29_****ger_archive.html
 
Posted by dog on :
 
fill in (****) (****ger) (****)
 
Posted by dog on :
 
won't let type B-L-O-G
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
yeah well, hate to burst y'alls bubble so quickly but...

http://www.defenselink.mil/Contracts/Contract.aspx?ContractID=3295

AIR FORCE

Lockheed Martin Co., Orlando, Fla., is being awarded an $87,429,990 firm-fixed-price contract. This action provides for joint air-to-surface standoff missile, initial operational capability and full operational capability assets.

Boy everybody is busy today. BB reading your post from a while ago and went to see exactly what was different. Still reading all the messages today but did notice that the Lockheed announcement was for "joint air-to-surface standoff missile" while the "plagerized" version for CVSU was for "joint air-to-surface logistics temperately control missle actuators" even had a picture of an actuator on the page.

[URL=http://blo ggeroffline.blo gspot.com/2006/07/conversion-solutions-inc-negotiates.html]http://blo ggeroffline.blo gspot.com/2006/07/conversion-solutions-inc-negotiates.html[/URL]

Anyway, it looked diferent enough to be a sub-contract of a large 87M Deffence contract. Is it real? Now that is still open for debate. [Confused]
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
agreeed taxback i noticed that later, too.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
No... fake. Somebody's in trouble.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
No... fake. Somebody's in trouble.

dog..what's fake?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
That b l o g release with the "actuator" picture.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I thought that b l o g site was kinda hokey to begin with. Im not sure who had the motivaton to make it though, hopefully its just someone with too much time on their hands.

I mean, come on - Occupation "Super Secret Agent".
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
That b l o g release with the "actuator" picture.

I was thinking that too so I Googled the image. Not much luck finding it's original source but it does resemble a lightweight linear actuator, compleat with the heat sync.

Thanks,
TB
 
Posted by aka the law on :
 
Damn I can't wait till Monday. Even if I do lose everything at least it was exiting, but if I win a s**t load then I will be the "man" at the nudie bar....lol
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Glad to see people are investing for the right reasons...... [Roll Eyes]

Good luck.

quote:
Originally posted by aka the law:
Damn I can't wait till Monday. Even if I do lose everything at least it was exiting, but if I win a s**t load then I will be the "man" at the nudie bar....lol


 
Posted by CRab on :
 
So nothing really meaningful has been found/done/exposed over the weekend? I've rad through...doesn't seem anything new has come up...
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by aka the law:
Damn I can't wait till Monday. Even if I do lose everything at least it was exiting, but if I win a s**t load then I will be the "man" at the nudie bar....lol

It's good to have some goals. LOL.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by aka the law:
Damn I can't wait till Monday. Even if I do lose everything at least it was exiting, but if I win a s**t load then I will be the "man" at the nudie bar....lol

LOL... Thus begins the economic circle of life. Man makes money. Man gives money to woman. Woman spends money at small retail store. Small retail store places order from big manufacturer. Big manufacture has great quarter and PR's increase in profits. Man makes more money.

Tuck dollars wisely. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
THERE ARE EVEN MORE (MAYBE)PR'S--------------------------------------------------------------------- ------Posted by: larice
In reply to: None Date:7/30/2006 7:15:37 PM
Post #of 22880

Title: SIPPR Anounces Fronthaul Group Inc., GeorGIA Aerospace Joint Venture AISS
Posted On: July 30, 2006, 16:32 PM
Listing Detail Georgia Aerospace

A Georgia Aerospace Systems and manufacturing company , Investor Relations Major Gen James Klugh Board member is proud to announce the following merger with AISS a division of Conversion Solutions which was just acquired by the Front Haul Group.

KENNESAW, Ga., Aug. 31 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions,
Inc. (OTC: CVSU) and Georgia Aerospace Systems (GAS), announces that the
companies have entered into an agreement to form a new company called American
International Smart Structures, Inc. (AISS, a Georgia Corporation).
"The formation of American International Smart Structures is just a sample
of the vision of management from Georgia Aerospace and CVSU and we are very
pleased to be participating. The contributed defense contract by Georgia
Aerospace to AISS will ensure the profitability and success of this venture,"
stated Rufus Paul Harris, CEO, CVSU.
Ben Stanley, COO, CVSU stated, "This Venture is only the first of many
that we are currently reviewing that will greatly enhance our shareholders
value, help stimulate the economy by providing jobs to Americans and provide
advanced security to America."
"Georgia Aerospace is excited about the 40% equity position of Conversion
Solutions in this venture. The great leadership at Conversion will bring
excellent financial credentials with their Wall Street knowledge and exposure
to the new entity AISS," stated Dr. Thomas Mensah, inventor, CEO and Founder
of Georgia Aerospace Systems.
"The investment dollars that this equity brings will allow AISS to grow
organically as well as through acquisitions to help us explore tremendous
opportunities in advanced composite structures for aircraft and marine
applications as well as homeland security. The infusion of capital will allow
us to execute our business plan flawlessly." Dr. Mensah continued, "In
addition to the traditional areas as detailed in our business, we will be
looking to expand into novel areas like advanced Nanotube composite structure
manufacturing. The company will be providing contracted engineering services
to the Department of Defense as well as embedded sensors for Homeland
Security."
"The Pentagon is implementing Network Centric Operations (NCO) which
involves linking all means of command, control, communications, computers,
intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance. Georgia Aerospace Systems and
American International Smart Structures are postured to become a major
technology provider in Network Centric Operations with products like embedded
sensors. The technology will be compatible with the Global Information Grid to
provide real time information to the war fighter," stated Major General John
Phillips, head of Defense markets for Georgia Aerospace Systems.

About Conversion Solutions, Inc
CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate,
fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market.
CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target
companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset
finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more
effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU and WHSC are
headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information,
please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us or e-mail us at Harris*cvsu.us .

Subsidiaries and Projects
Calleo Gourmet Coffee, Live Mortgage Free, Federal Chamber of Commerce,
Amruss Group, LLC and Forex Wes
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
"THERE ARE EVEN MORE (MAYBE)PR'S----------"

This is why it's always good to include links...

[Wink]
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
Glad to see people are investing for the right reasons...... [Roll Eyes]

Good luck.

quote:
Originally posted by aka the law:
Damn I can't wait till Monday. Even if I do lose everything at least it was exiting, but if I win a s**t load then I will be the "man" at the nudie bar....lol


LMAO! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
Gentlemen, I have sold out of my position Friday. Why ? I decided to give 'Rufus' a chance to

#1 File the 10K
#2 Halt the stock
#3 change over to CVSU.

I'm sorry but since none of these things have happened I no longer believe this is legitimate. Of course I could be wrong...however, I feel there will be another twist in the story this week.

I wish you all luck, I'm not bashing I just simply decided that if those three parameters were not met by 3:40pm on Friday I would sell my shares.

I took a loss on this from an average of 1.30, anyone good luck to you all ! I hope this really does happen for you all, but 'Rufus' did not meet my personal investement timeline. Adios, see ya round the boards !
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
CVSU acquired by FHAL:

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB&d=07/28/2006
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Uncle Smelly...It's good that you "stuck" to your time frames! In all honesty...all should stick to what they set their limits at...his choice was a wise move...regardless of the "outcome"! GLTA!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Uncle Smelly...It's good that you "stuck" to your time frames! In all honesty...all should stick to what they set their limits at...his choice was a wise move...regardless of the "outcome"! GLTA!

agreed...good post, his and yours

was merely pointing out the OTCBB update....
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
CVSU acquired by FHAL:

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB&d=07/28/2006

Tex..this was posted when it first showed up...but under the comments section it states..

Acquired by FrontHaul Group Inc (1 sh FHAL)

What does this mean...(1 sh FHAL) Anyone know?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
I noticed that, too...

but, no I do not know--I remember wondering if that indicated a share-for-share exchange. Worth a call, in my book...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tex...I wasn't posting that comment to Uncle S because of your post...I am sorry if anyone took it that way...

I know Tex would never "knock" anyone's choice.... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
I noticed that, too...

but, no I do not know--I remember wondering if that indicated a share-for-share exchange. Worth a call, in my book...

Could it just be the Price of FHAL? $1? I noticed some of the others comments have the PPS
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
CVSU acquired by FHAL:

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB&d=07/28/2006

Tex..this was posted when it first showed up...but under the comments section it states..

Acquired by FrontHaul Group Inc (1 sh FHAL)

What does this mean...(1 sh FHAL) Anyone know?

I took this to mean. Each CVSU share owned by a CVSU share holder will recieve 1 share of FHAL... as stated in the 8K.

TB
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
I noticed that, too...

but, no I do not know--I remember wondering if that indicated a share-for-share exchange. Worth a call, in my book...

Could it just be the Price of FHAL? $1? I noticed some of the others comments have the PPS
doubtful...

in fact? I've never noticed that type notation before. Not that I've "seen it all" but I do watch dailylist pretty regularly. Seriously, somebody should call for clarification...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Basically the listing is of securities that have been deleted from the system. The comments section would be used to show why it is being deleted. In this case it is being deleted because it is being aquired, and each outstanding share of CVSU is to be coverted to "1 of FHAL".
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Basically the listing is of securities that have been deleted from the system. The comments section would be used to show why it is being deleted. In this case it is being deleted because it is being aquired, and each outstanding share of CVSU is to be coverted to "1 of FHAL".

I'll buy that...pretty much my take. Still, if i'm able? I'll call tomorrow. But peeps shouldn't wait on me...hopeably, several people call and report here.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Seriously, somebody should call for clarification...

Where would one call?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
NASD/OTCBB numbers...

guess I'd start here:

http://www.otcbb.com/help/contacts.stm
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Call your broker.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks guys!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
Call your broker.

I disagree with this...not cuz Dust is "wrong," but because *my* brokers are no help with these issues. I have to walk them by the hand through "dailylist" info... lol, they (my brokers) spout almost anything, then change their tune only through repeated calls with updated info.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
OK some idiot on Ihub is arguing that the 9-11 tragedy was a scam perpetrated upon us by the government. Looks like the crazies have taken over...lol.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
OK some idiot on Ihub is arguing that the 9-11 tragedy was a scam perpetrated upon us by the government. Looks like the crazies have taken over...lol.

well, he's wrong....

it was the Columbian drug cartels that hired the arabs... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Actually it was the reverse vampires (obscure Simpsons reference)

In reality I can't even joke about it. Anti-American crap pisses me off too much, but you know how effective arguing on the Internet is. Ah well, I guess the world needs idiots too.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
it's amazing how much stuff you have to sift through on ihub to get any useful information - talk about frivolous yackety-yak . . . thank goodness for allstocks
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I know there have been some comments in regards to the lack of a sign-off by a CPA on the financials (no recent posts here but just the same I thought I'd comment) . . . I for one find some solace in the credentials of CVSU's CFO (taken from the 8-K). If this description of Mr. Horton is accurate, would he really associate himself with CVSU in a big facade and risk everything he undoubtedly worked very hard to develop?

Darryl Horton, CPA - Chief Financial Officer Mr. Horton is a graduate of Accounting (cum laude) from Michigan State University and has an array of experiences that include fifteen years working as an executive with the State of Michigan. Mr. Horton has served State Government as Director of Internal Audits and he is currently the Director of the Division of Licensing & Certification, which is responsible for the monitoring and regulation of all of the state's hospitals and health facilities.

Darryl Horton has earned invaluable experience as a Certified Public Accountant for over fourteen years and as Founder and CEO of Horton & Associates, a public accounting firm specializing in corporate tax planning. As an Associate Member of the Certified Fraud Examiners and as a Certified Internal Auditor, Mr. Horton has developed and monitored budgets in excess of 250 million USD, focusing on analysis of internal controls and utilizing risk assessment tools for various organizations in both the private and public industry sectors.

Mr. Horton is a highly respected member of his community who serves as Audit Chair for the local chapter of the American Red Cross; he is a member of the National Association of Accountants and the Institute of Internal Auditors, in addition to participating on the boards of several other organizations and charities.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I found this entertaining (from an ihub post):


The Basher Modus Operandi!

I'm posting this as many times as allowed tomorrow before the opening bell and throughout the day to counteract some basher posts..

Listen people, BASHERS have ONE reason to be here, but I'll list the possibilities as to why again.

1. they shorted, and are heavily in debt. If you don't know what that means, look it up. In short, (haha) they NEED the stock to fail BIG or they stand to lose ALOT of money. Yes you can trade on the stock going DOWN instead of up.

2. They are paid bashers. YES they exist. They get paid to come onto message boards because they are well seasoned in how to bash a stock and come up with bad PR as proof. Remember, it's 10 times as hard to be positive or find positive, ANYONE can find negative about ANYONE or ANYTHING at ANYTIME...it isn't hard. Hell, look at Microsoft...wouldn't you like to have owned a big chunk of that though? How bad did people bash that stock, that company before their IPO. Then afterwards, it is continually bashed as a corporation. Yet, they basically rule the world don't they? (until that linux takes off (don't hold your breath))

3. They are losers. They are miserable losers and have nothing else to do but bash people because it makes their miserable little lives feel better when they see they are distressing others. AKA Parasites. People like this are the same people that create virus' for computers.

4. They lost alot of money buying high, thinking it was going to climb, but when it dropped they sold. Now they are out and are afraid they will miss out on a big claim. OR, they were left holding the bag buying high and panic selling low with another stock, aka SUPER NEWBIE wanna be get rich so they don't have to take the trash out for mommie and daddy at home, where they live....at age 40.

5. OR they truly want to save you from making a bad mistake. Now, think CAREFULLY on this one. Think of the rhetoric they use to convey their messages. Do they sound like they care? Do you REALLY think that ANYONE gives to craps about YOUR personal financial situation. Think about it. Especially some of these people that are posting day and night, gloom and doom...looking to bash this stock and prove their point SO very hard. Why would they do this? Hmm, I DON'T KNOW...maybe (refer to points 1-4)

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12343271
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
WAN'T ENTERTAINMENT GO TO i-hub,,WAN'T THE FACTS ,,IT SEEM'S ALLSTOCKS THE PLACE!!!good luck to all,i believe we are going up tommorow!!!
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
mtpromises, propaganda is seen thru in a heart beat around here, pumper or basher..By spaming as you suggest, is just a pain in the arse to most thinking people on this stock.

Also, comparing this company to Microsoft could be construed as a classic pumper tool...I wouldn't advise using the comparisan..

Some humor and wit? go for it..Hard evidence of facts? Go for it.Good analysis of the situation? Go for it..But the we do not have a bubble gum crowd that needs constant re-enforcement.

Who is messing around with my post numbers?
10635 not 1635!

[ July 31, 2006, 01:23: Message edited by: Dustoff 1 ]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
(NOW THIS GUY IS LUCKY!!!!BOUGHT )50 Thousand $ ON FHAL private placement 2 years ago!!!Yesterday, 11:33 PM #72
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 18 Let me be honest. I am not quite sure how many shares I own because I first purchased stock in FHAL 2 years ago and had a one year restriction on them. I want to make sure I have all my Certificates so that when they are unrestricted I can deposit them.Tell me about it. I haven't slept all weekend. I went to the casinos and gambled a little this weekend to take my mind off of it. I have about 500,000 shares that I bought at .10 and can't wait til tomorrow and beyond. I might have a new profession by the end of the day Tues. That profession will be whatever I want probably professional slacker.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
But the we do not have a bubble gum crowd that needs constant re-enforcement.

very true. Just making a point I didn't think had been made before.

. . . this waiting thing hasn't really left us with much else to do.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
HE's on hot s-t-o-c-k market .c-o-m
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
pretty much most of the talk there is on CVSU,,planning high speed train accross U.S.!!GO FIGURE!!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
here's one post from hot s-t-o-c-k-s.c-o-m--------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------Anyone remember Rufus stating on *** that his main reason for doing this was to finance a cross country bullet train? Can you imagine where the stock will go to when they persue that?
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
That post is my post, I am phil on HSM.
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
quote:
I know there have been some comments in regards to the lack of a sign-off by a CPA on the financials
I thought you guys liked to look at yourselves as on the ball here. The audited financials on cvsu's website had the auditor's comments removed due to harrassment from callers.
 
Posted by silver2gold on :
 
Hello everyone, looks like I found a good board. This good be one hell of a week and lets hope we get some solid info so we can let our nerves relax. I've been in this stock since .08, sold on the first run-up then bought back 3 times. Only thing we can do now is wait and I feel something big is about to happen. Let this be the day.
 
Posted by silver2gold on :
 
sorry, This could be one hell of a week. Need more sleep!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Good Morning, Chartman is in the house!
Now don't anyone freak if FHAL opens and we start trading. There was that $1.75 thing that wasn't met, so maybe we'll have to trade up to that point before going to the Naz?..

Either way I believe this is the place to be, this will be an interesting week.

GLTA!!
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Hey... What do the premarket L2's look like? Just wondering...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Good Morning, Chartman is in the house!
Now don't anyone freak if FHAL opens and we start trading. There was that $1.75 thing that wasn't met, so maybe we'll have to trade up to that point before going to the Naz?..

Either way I believe this is the place to be, this will be an interesting week.

GLTA!!

In not particularly concerned if FHAL continues trading today but some news would be great. *tap* *tap* Anyone home there at CVSU or are you out riding the ponies? [Smile]
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
.98 x 1


.99 x 3
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
no kidding...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
looks like we will start on a dip then... With most newbies thinking it'll just be * $15. Remember it's still the same stock, and I heard that the old CVSU shares were value was at like $32 -anyone else see/hear that?
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
I'm on Scottrade, and they still have everything as FHAL...not sure about the old CVSU shares
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Good morning everyone! [Wink]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
yep, here comes the panic.... -still the same stock people.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Good morning Chartwalker!! GLTY [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
[Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
The change from FHAL to cvsu...was not done...I didn't realize people weren't sure what ticker it would open under...we are still waiting on the FHAL audited financials...
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
anyknow know if the stock can be haulted during trading hours or only before/after trading hours?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
morning!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I had no doubt we would trade today... At least that is until I see a 10K. Monitoring the Edgar filing wire again... looking for the magic document.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Does anyone know if it can be haulted during trading hours? or only before/after trade day?
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Good morning everyone!! Lets have a halt around noon today. Any bets??
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
yes, no need to panic...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
anyknow know if the stock can be haulted during trading hours or only before/after trading hours?

Any time...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
It's not a panic...EFGI is the only one under .99

Although in eleven minutes that could be totally screwed...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Does anyone know if it can be haulted during trading hours? or only before/after trade day?

Can halt at anytime..
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Let's see how much they beat it down now.... yawn
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'm suprised it's this strong at the moment...i was thinking the .70's for sure...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
yes, well maybe more people checked into what the shares are really worth [Smile]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I hope the shorts don't get the chance at cheap stock... nothing is different from last week.. only emotions
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I gotta think this lack of volume is a good signal that the flippers are staying put.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
looks like the market has decided to hold and see what happens, good, even tho I know what I have I hate those dips!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
thats kinda what i was thinking...no volume today is a great thing as far as i'm concerned...

who is AUTO by the way?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Indeed.. volume starts definitely less than Friday... ARCA still there with 40k at low .7's
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
better yet, let's go UP [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
intraday chart looks good, this should hold a while
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
AUTO = AUTOMATED TRADING DESK FINANCIAL SERVICES, LLC
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Not sure we would get many
day trader and flippers right now...never know when that halt would come...most will just stay away...
notice how it moves on the smallest of sells or buys? Float must be considarably less...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
1.01 is stacked pretty good...

the way this is trading you would think the MM's weren't manipulating it...

strange...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Wow, admittedly i totally did not expect this.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
all this with no news is WAY good ~
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
I with Catia.. A little unexpected, but definatly appreciated [Big Grin]

1.04 [Big Grin]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
wow moving pretty good for such low volumes.. ppl are holding...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah i was expecting to be 50% down with no news to be perfectly honest...

i'm a little weary of this...just seems totally contradictory to all that has been this stock...lol...i'm just paranoid i suppose...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Yeah it should climb slowly here for a while all ears are open waiting for news.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Someone may know something we dont??
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
squeeeezzee!!!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i think if anyone actually knew anything...it would be moving a whole hell of a lot faster...it's not like we're waiting for small news here, lol...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Well... I was going to follow that with no one is selling, no one would dare with this fence we are on. ....But someone did. downward float.
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
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Posted by dog on :
 
This is actually what I expected... stable...all holding and waiting for news
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
coming around again...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Wow.... 5k volumes on the ask.....all 25k volumes on sell huh???
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
No one knows something we don't I trust in this group. You all have you fingers out there pouring over everything. It is a good group of researchers here. I personally have viewed every filing posted to the SEC this monring since 6 AM, if it comes accross my desk I do not plan on missing it.

GLTA
 
Posted by dog on :
 
all 25k bids.....all 5k asks on volume. Significance?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
all 25k bids.....all 5k asks on volume. Significance?

it's 500 at the ask and 2500 at the bid...for over a dollar and under a dollar respectively...nothing more nothing less...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Have not seen that pattern before on this stock
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Trying to learn all I can this week....thanks CRab
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I wonder if P Rowds has an itch to call Rufus this morning.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
that would be nice...do they get good reception in Havana?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
couple minutes and this dip should be over, indicators reset nicely, now let's see where she goes ~
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I know I would like to know if he is up, had his coffee, had a restful weekend, has the SEC's fax number just encase he has any documents to send to them.

TB
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
what indicators are you watching?
 
Posted by PantLoad on :
 
has not moved in 3 min
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
stochastic, tweaked MACD (4,8,8)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
looks like a slow day unless we get news...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Not sure if I can keep watching this all day.... maybe I can give Rufus my cell number and he'll give me a ring when something happens
 
Posted by Lauralai on :
 
no trades in a while-could it have been halted already? how will we know when/if this gets halted? i'm new and this is unfamiliar territory. any answers would be appreciated.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
call HIM...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Calling for 100 degree's here today ~ I'd rather hit the pool! -maybe I'll see Rufus there! lol ~
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
you'll know when they halt it, symbol color will change and everything will go dead. [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so what are the loonies on I Hub theorizing about this morning?
 
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
 
If your on Scottrade...you will probably see a # placed after the stock symbol.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
won't the L2's go blank when this gets halted?

No...at first they just don't move...Frozen...on the L2's you should see a H symbol(at least on etrade's)...but I really think that we will see the audited financials for FHAL BEFORE any of that...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
http://www.otcbb.com/dynamic/marketwatch/mwsubhome.stm
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I think I might go mow my lawn..... ha ~
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Yeah.... for the last time! sniff
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
TIC TOK TIC TOK!!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Off topic....

SPCI up 400%???? No news that I can see

Any one know what is goin on??
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
why is it i can hear jeopardy music in my head when looking at the L2's?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Until the 10k is filed.... I think this is what we are looking at. -a yo-yo in slow motion.

I don't think anything can happen till the 10k is filed anyway right?... Or is that also not set in stone?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Lockheed Martin Wins $87M Air Force Deal
Monday July 31, 10:09 am ET
U.S. Air Force Awards Lockheed $87M Missile Contract for Australian Government


WASHINGTON (AP) -- The U.S. Air Force has awarded Lockheed Martin Corp., the country's largest military contractor, a pact worth more than $87 million for the Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile for Australia.
The missile is described as a 14-foot, 2,200-pound weapon that is being integrated onto some fighter and bomber aircraft. It is designed to destroy high value, well-defended fixed or relocatable targets, according to Lockheed Martin
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
well Rufus has already stated publicly(i think) that there could be a halt before the 10K is released...

can anyone back that up?

although i guess it HAS to be filed first...doesn't mean they have to release a PR though...maybe that is what he meant...

who on earth does Australia fight anyway?
 
Posted by Jo4321 on :
 
Crab wrote:
quote:
why is it i can hear jeopardy music in my head when looking at the L2's?
Did you say Jeopardy music? Yes! I hear it too!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Has anyone heard from any other boards of anyone who claims they have spoken with Rufas yet this morning?
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
well Rufus has already stated publicly(i think) that there could be a halt before the 10K is released...

can anyone back that up?

who on earth does Australia fight anyway?

-------------------------------------------------
giant ship eating waves?
What happened to 9000 posts of mine?LOL [Eek!]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah they could blow up waves i guess...maybe they need the 14ft missle for Blue Marlin? those suckers fight like crazy...

oh...and you get a do over for those 9000...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Frankly I hope the investors start to leave him alone, but I would like to know a bit about his plans today. NO MORE INTERVIEWS PLEASE!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.otcbb.com/dynamic/marketwatch/mwsubhome.stm -----HALT INFO-----
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I hope this doesn't last long... I have a "Juicer" to send to **********! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
did you mean to say s t o c k l e m o n by any chance, lol?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
ha ~ yep! you win the prise [Smile]
 
Posted by CMoney on :
 
So what kind of trade halt (T or H code) are they expecting?

H.10 Trading Halt - SEC Trading Suspension .
The Securities and Exchange Commission has suspended trading in the security until further notice .
H.11 Trading Halt - Regulatory Suspension/Cease Trade Order.
Trading is halted in conjunction with a foreign securities exchange or market for regulatory reasons.Security is dually listed or registered and a foreign regulatory authority or market halted security.
T.1 Trading Halt - News Pending
Trading is pending the release of material news. OTCBB issue is a deritive or component of a security which is listed on The Nasdaq Stock Market, U.S. exchange, or foreign market or exchange, and there is a trading halt on the underlying security.
T.2 Trading Halt - News Released
The news has begun the dissemination process over a major wire service.
T.3 Trading Halt - News and Resumption Times
The news has been fully disseminated over a major wire service. Two times will be displayed: (1) the time when market makers can enter quotations (2) the time the security will be released for trading.
Beginning Monday February 5, 2001, all trade halt and resumption times will be posted in HH:MM:SS format. This is a change to the current format of HH:MM:hundreths of a minute.
T.12 Trading Halt - Additional Information Requested by Nasdaq
Trading is halted pending receipt of additional information requested by Nasdaq.

C$
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
m-n-1 just said we we trading now at 0.05!!!!crazy!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
.05? you sure they were talking about FHAL?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
pretty sure!!!they were probably f-en around again!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
500 SEC documents filed this morning and so far none of major interest...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
All Right Rufas!!! You got our attention less than a million shares traded in 1.5 hours, everyone is holding. Let's get on with this.

TB
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
the way we're moving...we could have less than 2mil on the day...

you would think something has to happen today...although thinking here can be a painful experience so i'm gonna refrain for a while...
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
The natives are getting restless!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
did anyone find out what the [1-fhal] next to the symbol change was yet? (discussion from last nite)

~BB


edit: this one
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB&d=07/28/2006
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
1 share FHAL for 1 share CVSU...regarding the acquisition...

that is all it was in referance to...

look at the AMPLO just below CVSU it has the same language only it also is including a $ amount in addition to the shares...

and this of course is totally in agreement with what previous PR's and interviews have lead us to believe would be the case...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Hope it desn't get much lower...helpin the shorts
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Someone tell Rufas he needs to press send on the fax machine to get those SEC documents filed.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
get it on RUFUS!!
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
Has anyone called or spoke with him today?
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
I hope Rufus can work a fax machine.
 
Posted by POOLBOY on :
 
I cleaned his pool over the weekend and he said he was going to drain it because he needed a place for his money!!!! jk
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
Wait wait wait???

I thought you guys were going through the merger for sure today and all those shares you guys hold will be worth a sparkling $15 a piece???

So why now the talk about "possible" news or "maybe the 10-k will be filed"?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
$15teen bottles of beer on the wall,
$15teen bottles of beer...
-if one should fall..... hic-up [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
Wait wait wait???

I thought you guys were going through the merger for sure today and all those shares you guys hold will be worth a sparkling $15 a piece???

So why now the talk about "possible" news or "maybe the 10-k will be filed"?

-just a matter of "when" FHAL was a mess....
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
Wait wait wait???

I thought you guys were going through the merger for sure today and all those shares you guys hold will be worth a sparkling $15 a piece???

So why now the talk about "possible" news or "maybe the 10-k will be filed"?

Not sure where you got this..but it has been known that we are waiting on the audited financials for FHAL...BEFORE anything can happen...GLTY!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Appearantly, someone on PalTalk spoke with Ben S. this morning and he said, "I don't want to tell you anything till I have something definte. I am waiting on something. But keep bugging me."
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
Wait wait wait???

I thought you guys were going through the merger for sure today and all those shares you guys hold will be worth a sparkling $15 a piece???

So why now the talk about "possible" news or "maybe the 10-k will be filed"?

Not sure where you got this..but it has been known that we are waiting on the audited financials for FHAL...BEFORE anything can happen...GLTY!
It was Catiaengineer that said she would sell her shares on Monday after the merger goes through at $15.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
anybody here who posts at ihub might want to tell the bashers over there that the Form RW dated 3/28/06 that staes:

The Company further advises the Commission that no shares of common stock sought to be registered pursuant to the Registration Statement have been sold or offered.


the DD on this deal has been dispikable...just dispickable...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
Wait wait wait???

I thought you guys were going through the merger for sure today and all those shares you guys hold will be worth a sparkling $15 a piece???

So why now the talk about "possible" news or "maybe the 10-k will be filed"?

Not sure where you got this..but it has been known that we are waiting on the audited financials for FHAL...BEFORE anything can happen...GLTY!
It was Catiaengineer that said she would sell her shares on Monday after the merger goes through at $15.
Actually, and sorry for the confusion, im a he and i said i will sell my shares when it hits $15. Im not sure that i said Monday specifically but im sure you will correct me on that if im wrong.

Anyway, whats your position again?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
QUOTE]Actually, and sorry for the confusion, im a he .

Anyway, whats your position again?

LMAO..."sorry about the confusion"? What are ya sayin'? You were confused about being a he or a she? [Wink]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
QUOTE]Actually, and sorry for the confusion, im a he .

Anyway, whats your position again?

LMAO..."sorry about the confusion"? What are ya sayin'? You were confused about being a he or a she? [Wink]
Heh, apparently. [Smile]

Only certain things are "noted" by some people. Looking back i never said anything about selling on Monday for $15, nor did i say $15 at all. I simply said i would sell after the merger. I also commented that my girlfriend had given me a "dear john" letter before the FHAL stock took off so not only does Absolute think im a chick, it thinks im a chick-into-chicks.

Oh well, i think ill get over it.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hey all... back in wisconsin at the moment and having a problem with the web... but anyways, Ben Stanley is not taking calls ATT (at this time) and rufus won't answer... it's all up in the air and IMO if we don't hear anything it will be interesting to see how the investor confidence with the stock will hold up.....
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
hey all... back in wisconsin at the moment and having a problem with the web... but anyways, Ben Stanley is not taking calls ATT (at this time) and rufus won't answer... it's all up in the air and IMO if we don't hear anything it will be interesting to see how the investor confidence with the stock will hold up.....

Yea, it seems they still had STRONG confidence this morning but i agree...this afternoon could be shakey without a PR
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I think most will hold... but those that sell might let it fall fast, but it won't be a sell off. Of course by watching the volume we can tell the difference, low volume = just scared money IMO
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
AHAHA, persistence is key when making calls to a CEO or COO;) haha, but just got off with Mr. Stanley... "working on release right now and I will take calls afterwords" so expect it....
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I don't want a PR I want a 10K... 862 filed with the SEC today sofar and none of much interest.
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:


Anyway, whats your position again? [/QB]

Short.


Since $1.55.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
P Rowds - did he say how much longer it would be before they put it out? minutes.. hours...tomorrow?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
AHAHA, persistence is key when making calls to a CEO or COO;) haha, but just got off with Mr. Stanley... "working on release right now and I will take calls afterwords" so expect it....

[salute!] Thanks ~
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
AHAHA, persistence is key when making calls to a CEO or COO;) haha, but just got off with Mr. Stanley... "working on release right now and I will take calls afterwords" so expect it....

Tone of voice? worried? dissapointed? Confused? rushed? Anyting of that nature?
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:


Anyway, whats your position again?

Short.


Since $1.55. [/QB]

And thats why we hate you. To quote one of the worst kids ever on Supernanny, "I know why I hate you. Because I hate you."

Damn you shorters.
 
Posted by MikeSC on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:


Anyway, whats your position again?

Short.


Since $1.55. [/QB]

Hmm, I believe you said you had no interest at all in this stock on Fri. (correct me if I'm wrong), which was after the pps was well below there.

Did you not?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:


Anyway, whats your position again?

Short.


Since $1.55. [/QB]

Absolut_Swing
Member


Rate Member posted July 28, 2006 14:02
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quote:
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Originally posted by cool AZ:
What's your position here ablolut if you don't mind saying?
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Full disclosure, I have no position whatsoever in FHAL.

I originally heard about it on a forum at myspace when it made a little bounce at around .15 cents(?) and then paid no mind. Later on, I realized this same stock that was at $1.50 was actually the one they mentioned on myspace.

I would have loved to have been on this ride, but truthfully, at this point, if my broker allowed me to, I would be short this stock.

--------------------
Paranoia, fear and greed is good.

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Posts: 16 | From: Private | Registered: Jul 2006 | IP: Logged |
 
Posted by MikeSC on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSC:
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:


Anyway, whats your position again?

Short.


Since $1.55.

Hmm, I believe you said you had no interest at all in this stock on Fri. (correct me if I'm wrong), which was after the pps was well below there.

Did you not? [/QB]

Sorry, disregard. I thought that was Absolut's reply.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
AHAHA, persistence is key when making calls to a CEO or COO;) haha, but just got off with Mr. Stanley... "working on release right now and I will take calls afterwords" so expect it....

Again i applaud you. When i jump into a position in another stock someday i hope you are around!! [Smile]

Personally, i was getting close to calling myself but im at work and barely have a chance to sneak away sometimes.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:


Anyway, whats your position again?

Short.


Since $1.55. [/QB]

Wow..absolut...You don't seem to be very good at what ever it is you are TRYING to do...

Seems several posters have already brought some of you previous posts forward....
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
He didn't say time frame... but I would imagine soon. His tone seemed rush and he made it clear when he said "... i will take calls after release" that he didn't want to talk now. So i did the respectful thing and said "thank you sir very much for your time and i look forward to reading it"
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:


Anyway, whats your position again?

Short.


Since $1.55.

Absolut_Swing
Member


Rate Member posted July 28, 2006 14:02
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quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by cool AZ:
What's your position here ablolut if you don't mind saying?
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Full disclosure, I have no position whatsoever in FHAL.

I originally heard about it on a forum at myspace when it made a little bounce at around .15 cents(?) and then paid no mind. Later on, I realized this same stock that was at $1.50 was actually the one they mentioned on myspace.

I would have loved to have been on this ride, but truthfully, at this point, if my broker allowed me to, I would be short this stock.

--------------------
Paranoia, fear and greed is good.

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Posts: 16 | From: Private | Registered: Jul 2006 | IP: Logged | [/QB]

*giggle* Thanks for that find, saved me the time. [Smile]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
It looks like arca wants to dump a ton of shares.
 
Posted by MikeSC on :
 
Oops, reregard. It was Absolut's.

Who misrepresented his position on Fri.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Nah ....baitin, trying to get it to move up. He did this too on Friday.. He will withdraw after a few sell.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
AHAHA, persistence is key when making calls to a CEO or COO;) haha, but just got off with Mr. Stanley... "working on release right now and I will take calls afterwords" so expect it....

Tone of voice? worried? dissapointed? Confused? rushed? Anyting of that nature?
LOL yeah! was there loud speakers in the back ground? Did it sound like he was in an airport?

Someone needs to pull a "Borne Supremacy" on him. "You should get some rest Ben, you look tired." [Big Grin]

TB
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
Stuck in FHAL and not feeling confident on this one? Check out INXR!! HUGE run coming.. bottom play that has legs.. check out ask.. very thin! once .0008 is gone, nothing but blue skies IMO!
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
AHAHA, persistence is key when making calls to a CEO or COO;) haha, but just got off with Mr. Stanley... "working on release right now and I will take calls afterwords" so expect it....

Again i applaud you. When i jump into a position in another stock someday i hope you are around!! [Smile]

Personally, i was getting close to calling myself but im at work and barely have a chance to sneak away sometimes.

haha, not a problem catia... I too hope someday to be in a position with some others that were in this with me... alot of good ppl... unfortunately, i'm in northern wisconsin with dial-up right now... yes, dial-up. i didn't think it still existed either. cable guy can't make it here till later on in week so someone should call me when news is out and lemme know if it's good or bad;) hahaha
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LMAO..Tax...
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
once again, i think in hear it to.
http://www.crews.org/curriculum/ex/compsci/webresources/sounds/jeopardy.wav
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
great i luvrufus is on here again and gonna pump another stock... i think there is probably another board for that....? and if so i'm sure we all look at all the different threads... but thanks though rufus
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:


Anyway, whats your position again?

Short.


Since $1.55.

And thats why we hate you. To quote one of the worst kids ever on Supernanny, "I know why I hate you. Because I hate you."

Damn you shorters. [/QB]

Why do you hate short sellers? They bring equality to the market.
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSC:
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:


Anyway, whats your position again?

Short.


Since $1.55.

Hmm, I believe you said you had no interest at all in this stock on Fri. (correct me if I'm wrong), which was after the pps was well below there.

Did you not? [/QB]

Oops. Forgot about that. Well, should I buy to cover now or should I stay short? I'd really hate to have to buy to cover at $15/share.
 
Posted by iloverufus on :
 
feeling sick over FHAL?? check out INXR! HUGE run coming.. ASK super thin.. at .0008.. this will run into penny land soon after trip000s are taken out!! super volume past few days.. definitely ready to explode soon.. check it out.. INXR!
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
Boooorrrrriiiiinnnnngggg.....
 
Posted by MikeSC on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSC:
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:


Anyway, whats your position again?

Short.


Since $1.55.

Hmm, I believe you said you had no interest at all in this stock on Fri. (correct me if I'm wrong), which was after the pps was well below there.

Did you not?

Oops. Forgot about that. Well, should I buy to cover now or should I stay short? I'd really hate to have to buy to cover at $15/share. [/QB]
You should take your sleazy self back over to Ihub or RB or wherever you fit in.

You were whining Friday because you were being treated so unfairly when you told people they should sell.

Your misrepresentaion of your position in this stock is a matter of record now. Don't forget that, son.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, im off for a Dr appt and wont be home until after close. Hopefully i will have some nice news when i get home!!
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSC:
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSC:
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:


Anyway, whats your position again?

Short.


Since $1.55.

Hmm, I believe you said you had no interest at all in this stock on Fri. (correct me if I'm wrong), which was after the pps was well below there.

Did you not?

Oops. Forgot about that. Well, should I buy to cover now or should I stay short? I'd really hate to have to buy to cover at $15/share.
You should take your sleazy self back over to Ihub or RB or wherever you fit in.

You were whining Friday because you were being treated so unfairly when you told people they should sell.

Your misrepresentaion of your position in this stock is a matter of record now. Don't forget that, son. [/QB]

You shouldn't talk so tough, "son." It's not very convincing.

But why am I such a sleazy person because i'm short? I've made a lot of money following this board both long and short.

A person that plays both sides, long and short is not an evil person, they're just smart and versatile.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
pretty big buys at .90
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
yeah, i saw that, 16800 12000 13000 12000
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Absolut_Swing, can tell me how being a short seller in any way helps the market? Besides being a vulture? And how bashing a stock is useful info? Tell me how shorting "brings equity into the market" because I don't understand that statement. And provide links to back up your statements, please.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
ARCA pulled back
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iloverufus:
feeling sick over FHAL?? check out INXR! HUGE run coming.. ASK super thin.. at .0008.. this will run into penny land soon after trip000s are taken out!! super volume past few days.. definitely ready to explode soon.. check it out.. INXR!

It may run to 0.0020, but not a penny. It was a great buy on Thursday though.

Of course this should be talked about on the other thread, not the FHAL thread.
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
Absolut_Swing, can tell me how being a short seller in any way helps the market? Besides being a vulture? And how bashing a stock is useful info? Tell me how shorting "brings equity into the market" because I don't understand that statement. And provide links to back up your statements, please.

Being short brings equality, not equity to the market. It keeps the balance fair. If stocks went up all the time then everybody would stop making money. You have to have some entry point to get into a stock in order for it to go up. Being short or selling a stock helps that become possible.

Short sellers help bring out crooked companies into the light. I think everyone should be this versatile. By that, I mean everyone should go long and short when the time is right.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSC:
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSC:
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:


Anyway, whats your position again?

Short.


Since $1.55.

Hmm, I believe you said you had no interest at all in this stock on Fri. (correct me if I'm wrong), which was after the pps was well below there.

Did you not?

Oops. Forgot about that. Well, should I buy to cover now or should I stay short? I'd really hate to have to buy to cover at $15/share.
You should take your sleazy self back over to Ihub or RB or wherever you fit in.

You were whining Friday because you were being treated so unfairly when you told people they should sell.

Your misrepresentaion of your position in this stock is a matter of record now. Don't forget that, son.

You shouldn't talk so tough, "son." It's not very convincing.

But why am I such a sleazy person because i'm short? I've made a lot of money following this board both long and short.

A person that plays both sides, long and short is not an evil person, they're just smart and versatile. [/QB]

Here's perspective from someone that's as new as it gets. I don't even know enough to quip about whats good or bad about being short, but lying one way or the other is pretty sleazy in this arena. luckily it's easy (even for no experience) on this thread to ID the c rap. GLTY anyway...
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
[/QB]

Here's perspective from someone that's as new as it gets. I don't even know enough to quip about whats good or bad about being short, but lying one way or the other is pretty sleazy in this arena. luckily it's easy (even for no experience) on this thread to ID the c rap. GLTY anyway... [/QB][/QUOTE]

I'm just trying to keep you guys on your toes.

Hey, i'll be right back, i've got to find some other positions to go long and some positions to go short.

I do hope you prove me wrong, on FHAL, though. I've already made my money on this thing! Just hope you guys all come out ahead too.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
While we are waiting on FHAL here is the financials on SLJB (formerly LFWK) Can't beat the profit.

WINDSOR, ON, Jul 31 (MARKET WIRE) --
Sulja Brothers Building Supplies, Ltd. (PINKSHEETS: SLJB) announced today that
the company is releasing financial information to its shareholders. Sulja
Brothers
Building Supplies earned $63,047,611.00 during the 12 months from June 1, 2005
to May 31, 2006. The company made $28,371,424.95 gross profit with a
$26,023,991.63 in pre-tax profits. Net profits were $15,879,839.69. The
monthly financials for 2005 and the pro forma for 2006 will shortly be
available at www.suljabros.com.

CEO Steve Sulja stated: "We had a good year in the latter part of 2005,
thanks
to our expansions in the Middle East. A large portion of 2005 profits and
revenues can be attributed to our Middle Eastern Operations. We are expecting
greater
net profit performance in 2006."

A Red Sea Group spokesperson commented: "Sulja Brothers had an excellent
year with
major growth expected in the coming years. Our initial assessment to determine
eligibility for Sulja Brothers to meet the NASDAQ requirements was based upon
the current net profit of Sulja Bros."

This contains forward-looking information within the meaning of The
PrivateSecurities Litigation Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements may be
identified through the use of words such as "expects," "will," "anticipates,"
"estimates," "believes," or statements indicating certain actions: "may,"
"could," "should" or "might occur." Such forward-looking statements involve
certain risks
and uncertainties. The actual result may differ materially from such
forward-looking statements. The company does not undertake to publicly update
or revise its forward-looking statements even if experience or future changes
make
it clear that any projected results (expressed or implied) will not be
realized.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Let's try to Profile Rufus shall we?....

[all in fun...and not..]

We know Rufus not only states me loves his company but will GO AFTER bashers to defend it.

-He's *Passionate about his company*

His company was attacked, he knows all about shorting from his comments and how the game is played (remember he called saying we should all get our certs?)and,... -being "a good ol' boy" he's vengeful. He plans how he can slam them the hardest that have slammed him and his company.

If the stock LOOKS weak then the shorters will come out of the woodwork like dung beetles (LOL), so they hold off on the PR till after hours when the shorters load up (or maybe after a day or two!) then drop the big PR that spanks every shorter.

The headlines read "Rufus takes to the Woodshed!"
LOL ~

This is the only reason I can come up with on why he would wait so long, but it makes soooo much sense. Rufus is pissed, lemonhead, people calling, price going up and down, and he's not a dumb man, so while we have to wait for the paperwork to be gone over with a fine toothed comb, Rufus, -who has told us to not sell below $15 a share... isn't saying anything to see how many "Dung Beetles" he can smash.

If you were a man with his power, wouldn't you?...

That, or he's in Havanna LOL ~

--just my .02 cents...
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
good point!
 
Posted by POOLBOY on :
 
Rufus must have a strong "Pimp Hand"
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
chartwalker~ did you really mow your yard in this heat?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
ha...heat...trying mowing your yard in a sauna sometime...you guys don't know how good you really have it...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Now I'll plead the 5th! lol ~
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
prices surges becuse of my last post! LOL ~~
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
I'm back in at .87 with 10K shares. Why ? Because of the strength here... I feel this would have started dumping at 1:30 and we're still strong with a lot of buys on L2.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
lol chartwalker....
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I've had a buy in at .87 for an hour with scottrade and not filled. Who'd you fill with Smelly?
 
Posted by POOLBOY on :
 
Yall can come get in my pool. I got plenty of beer and girls.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
One thousand one hundred and thirty nine filings in at the SEC today and none of any significant interest... [Frown]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
WOW! nothing yet! holding long!!
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
Does anybody here still use the SOES software? I heard that was some of the best software for high speed execution of 1000 share limit orders back during the bubble.

I wonder if it's any good for pennies because Scottrade really sucks as a broker for penny stocks.
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
I've had a buy in at .87 for an hour with scottrade and not filled. Who'd you fill with Smelly?

I trade with Schwab, while you can't buy more than 1 million shares per trade, they usually execute a lot faster than Ameritrade, Scott, etc.

Schwab has been around a long time and has a lot of connections with the MM's. I wouldn't trust this deal to anyone else. Too many times I've heard traders freaking out because a stock is running or crashing and they can't execute - Schwab has never let me down.

If/When the change to CVSU comes I expect to be able to trade it before most other brokerages through Schwab.

Anyway that's my reason!
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Thanks, ps.. I'm still not filled. My eTrade is always very quick but I am trying to spread this around a little.
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
In case you have seen the bond on the market.

http://www.swx.com/market/bonds/quotes/international/long/USD/quote_chart_en.htm l?id=US922646AT10USD4
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I couldn't buy with Scott last week either - same problem - maybe they need some nair for their short shorts.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Thanks, ps.. I'm still not filled. My eTrade is always very quick but I am trying to spread this around a little.

Greenday..i've been using etrade and choicetrade...choice is ALWAYS faster...I have found etrade to be less "reliable"...but it might just be me...I still have etrade for the l2's...
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Smelly:
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
I've had a buy in at .87 for an hour with scottrade and not filled. Who'd you fill with Smelly?

I trade with Schwab, while you can't buy more than 1 million shares per trade, they usually execute a lot faster than Ameritrade, Scott, etc.

Schwab has been around a long time and has a lot of connections with the MM's. I wouldn't trust this deal to anyone else. Too many times I've heard traders freaking out because a stock is running or crashing and they can't execute - Schwab has never let me down.

If/When the change to CVSU comes I expect to be able to trade it before most other brokerages through Schwab.

Anyway that's my reason!

Doesn't Schwab have a per share commission? That's a lot of commission once you get into the hundred thousands and up.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Where's that pr? closer to eod - tick tock- strange how low key they are today
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
1342... and none of interest...
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Have you read all 1342 in detail? jk
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
the longer this drags out, the more I think Chartwalker is right
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Looks like another EOD run will put us back to where it was at on Friday...
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
I agree MTPromises
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I don't think Rufas ever intended to release this 10K durring trading hours. I think he wants to limit any reaction to the news good or bad.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Ahh Wise One Rufas He is
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I also predict we will break 200 pages on this thread at EOD.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I like when people go out on a limb and make bold predictions Tax. lol
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I don't think it is a good practice to be late on your filings if you are planning on going to NASDAQ in 30 to 60 days.
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I also predict we will break 200 pages on this thread at EOD.

I think you may be right...
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I also predict we will break 200 pages on this thread at EOD.

I think you may be right...
Nevermind... Absolut_Swing is looking for a way to short your prediction...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
IMO the market thinks this is a HOLD, price movement seems to back that up.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I don't think it is a good practice to be late on your filings if you are planning on going to NASDAQ in 30 to 60 days.

They're not late...the hope was that the audit would be done between the 28th and August 1'st...today is the 31st...and on top of that...the time frame is what they were hoping for!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I also predict we will break 200 pages on this thread at EOD.

I think you may be right...
Nevermind... Absolut_Swing is looking for a way to short your prediction...
Don't short a sure thing...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I also predict we will break 200 pages on this thread at EOD.

I think you may be right...
Nevermind... Absolut_Swing is looking for a way to short your prediction...
Don't short a sure thing...
or should I say something that is "absolute"! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
shouldn't short a sure stock silly...lol...

(not saying i think this is a sure thing, JUST BORED)
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
let's help tax reach his prediction early of 200 pages
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I don't think it is a good practice to be late on your filings if you are planning on going to NASDAQ in 30 to 60 days.

They're not late...the hope was that the audit would be done between the 28th and August 1'st...today is the 31st...and on top of that...the time frame is what they were hoping for!
I stand corrected 10... I just really wanted that 10K on Friday.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
looking at the volume chart today buys seem to be the winning transaction...
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
go 200!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I'll just quote myself a couple of times at 2.59. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yes Tax...I would've liked them last week to...I just want this whole thing done...what ever way it goes...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I also predict we will break 200 pages on this thread at EOD.

I think you may be right...
Nevermind... Absolut_Swing is looking for a way to short your prediction...
Don't short a sure thing...
or should I say something that is "absolute"! [Big Grin]
this should do it.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
A long term investment is a short term investment that failed.

haha...just read that someplace...

The safest way to double your money is to fold it and put it in your pocket.

haha...crackin myself up here...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I also predict we will break 200 pages on this thread at EOD.

I think you may be right...
Nevermind... Absolut_Swing is looking for a way to short your prediction...
Don't short a sure thing...
or should I say something that is "absolute"! [Big Grin]
this should do it.
nope
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Better hurry...both the posts and the pps!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
looking for 10k !!!???
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Stockbroker: What is a million years like to you?
God: Like one second.
Stockbroker: What is a million dollars like to you?
God: Like one penny.
Stockbroker: Can I have a penny?
God: Just a second ...

wooohoooo...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I also predict we will break 200 pages on this thread at EOD.

I think you may be right...
Nevermind... Absolut_Swing is looking for a way to short your prediction...
Don't short a sure thing...
or should I say something that is "absolute"! [Big Grin]
this should do it.
nope
200
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
EOD right on time...
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
anybody here who posts at ihub might want to tell the bashers over there that the Form RW dated 3/28/06 that staes:

The Company further advises the Commission that no shares of common stock sought to be registered pursuant to the Registration Statement have been sold or offered.


the DD on this deal has been dispikable...just dispickable...

Glassman, I know you started this post referring to ihub, but is your last statement all-inclusive? Do you think collectively we have not done a good job on the DD for this stock?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
10k or not 10k....that IS the question!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Let's hope for a PR this afternoon....c'mon Rufas...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I missed... not the first time.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
good buys after the close...

ehh...well not a whole lot actually...lotsa buys last ten minutes though...
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Come on news!!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
oh come on how long is this damn page...and where is that damn PR!?!?!?!?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
LMAO you guys... ~~
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
*********.com: The Pioneers of the STOCKUMENTARY, deliver the Movers and Shakers ****, Part 3:


By M2
Last Update: 7/31/2006 10:36:00 AM

(FHAL) The FrontHaul Group is a publicly held Delaware corporation with branch offices in Rockwall, TX. The FrontHaul Group expects to grow their business specifically in the areas of 3rd party logistics, which includes but is not limited too Transportation Brokerage and Motor Carrier services

I find it funny that these places still talk about FHAL like they are still in the trucking biz. Hopefully they will all know what CVSU is about soon!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Market Report July 31, 2006


Helium was up, feathers were down.

Paper was stationary.

Fluorescent tubing was dimmed in light trading.

Knives were up sharply.

Cows steered into a bull market.

Pencils lost a few points.

Hiking equipment was trailing.

Elevators rose, while escalators continued their slow decline.

Weights were up in heavy trading.

Light switches were off.

Mining equipment hit rock bottom.

Diapers remained unchanged.

Shipping lines stayed at an even keel.

The market for raisins dried up.

Coca Cola fizzled.

Caterpillar stock inched up a bit.

Sun peaked at midday.

Balloon prices were inflated.

Scott Tissue touched a new bottom.

And batteries exploded in an attempt to recharge the market.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
1666 sec filings today and none of interest.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Where's Cassity today?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
anyone else wanna comment on the 302k sell * 4:07?
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
10of13 - I thought we had a guarantee from Rufus it would be done by 7/28 to 8/1 but now I can't find those dates as I read back...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
anyone else wanna comment on the 302k sell * 4:07?

Uhhhh, weak hands? [Smile]

Thats all i could come up with
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
someone weak had over $300000 tied up in this?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
? i dont see anything after 4:02?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
someone weak had over $300000 tied up in this?

I didnt say it was a logical answer. [Smile]

My head hurts
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
0.95 10000 OBB 16:02:03
0.95 10880 OBB 16:02:01
0.95 7500 OBB 16:01:32
0.945 5500 OBB 16:00:50
0.95 2500 OBB 16:00:47
0.95 2500 OBB 16:00:32
0.95 2500 OBB 16:00:12
0.95 25000 OBB 16:00:11
0.94 5000 OBB 16:00:08

i dont see it?
~BB
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
* 16:07:52 in red priced * 0.945 for 302700 shares

maybe i'm reading what the greens and reds in my L2's represent but i was always under the impression that red was sell and green was buy...

although actually thinking about it...it could simply be above or below the ask...

you know what...that actually makes more sense...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
10of13 - I thought we had a guarantee from Rufus it would be done by 7/28 to 8/1 but now I can't find those dates as I read back...

correct. he said it in traders corner interview.
~BB
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
odd. i dont see anything other than these:
0.95 10000 OBB 16:02:03
0.95 10880 OBB 16:02:01

then i see this one repeat itself (after hours wackiness, nor a real trade)
0.95 10000 OBB 16:02:03

then nada.

maybe it is ur level 2's going wack after close?
~BB


edit: one person at ihub says they saw it too...
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Well, tomorrow is the 1st.....
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
no...someone else mentioned it on another board...although i guess it could be an anomoly...

does anyone else see that trade?

I have E*Trade L2's...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Dont know is this means anything but i have always been able to see CVSU on my Etrade quotes....although it was all 0's. Today CVSU is now unrecognized in etrade
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
no...someone else mentioned it on another board...although i guess it could be an anomoly...

does anyone else see that trade?

I have E*Trade L2's...

No L2s here. I promise if this merger goes through as planned i will enroll in some!! Otherwise i never want to see etrade again LOL
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
last trade 302700 shares at 0.945 time 16:07 it is showing red so i guess it's BUY ....?????

red=buy
green=sell

i am wrong here correct me please..
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Crab - it's on my etrade l2's also.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i thought i wasn't hallucinating, lol...
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Oh and Do I get a prize for being the first one on page 200?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Catia,

depending on the number of trades you've made they're actually free with ETrade...
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Some of the L2's are delayed depending on where you are looking ...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
Catia,

depending on the number of trades you've made they're actually free with ETrade...

Any particular place to look?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
TD Ameritrade. doesnt show it.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'm not sure of the exact number of trades but on the main account screen just download Power ETrade Pro on the right side of the screen...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
BB if you really are curious call TD and see if they say anything different...

it's strange you mention that second trade for 10000 at 4:02:03 because i'm not getting that one...

mine reads like this:

0.945 302700
16:07:52
0.95 10000
0.95 10880
16:02:01

the .0945 is red and the two at 0.95 are green
 
Posted by Drumdude101 on :
 
i bought 100 shares of this today at .97 and i am unclear on what you all expect this stock to go up to.....im REALLY new at trading so any advice or help would be amazing!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
1930 sec filings and so far nothing of any interest... Except I found out McDonalds owns a bit of Chipolte. Not for long though they just announced that they were retiring their interest in Chipolte.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I just called Rufas and he did answer on his cell, the number from the website. I asked for an update and he said "keep your eyes on the wires". I said can I expect to see news today? and he said yes. I asked if everything they have promised was still on track with the audits, fillings, and hault of this symbol. He said yes, everything is fine, keep your eyes on the lines.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...Chipotle could be good for a bounce after people dump from McD's leaving, lol...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
from **********.com
(s t o c k w a t c h . c o m)
16:07:52 Q 0.945 -0.035 302,700

16:02:03 Q 0.95 -0.03 10,000

16:02:01 Q 0.95 -0.03 10,880

16:01:32 Q 0.95 -0.03 7,500

16:00:51 Q 0.945 -0.035 5,500

16:00:48 Q 0.95 -0.03 2,500

16:00:33 Q 0.95 -0.03 2,500

16:00:13 Q 0.95 -0.03 2,500

16:00:12 Q 0.95 -0.03 25,000

16:00:09 Q 0.94 -0.04 5,000

[ July 31, 2006, 17:12: Message edited by: T e x ]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
YEAH... getting excited again.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
do I get a prize yet?
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Yeah, Greenday, we're just waiting for Rufus to deliver it [Smile] .

Hopefully its a Greenday for tomorrow and beyond.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
I just called Rufas and he did answer on his cell, the number from the website. I asked for an update and he said "keep your eyes on the wires". I said can I expect to see news today? and he said yes. I asked if everything they have promised was still on track with the audits, fillings, and hault of this symbol. He said yes, everything is fine, keep your eyes on the lines.

That's excellent! . . . because I'm ready for some news! And, no, I'm not interested in playing "Let's Make a Deal" . . . I just want the door with the good prize.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Keep your eyes on the wire... while I just finish packing my suitcase over here. /jk
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
GreenDay.....how do we know what you say is true?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
we don't...you can call if you want to...

Phone: (770) 420-8270

there is really no reason to lie at this point...it's not like we can buy more or sell off till morning anyhow, lol...
 
Posted by 6digits on :
 
thats not his cell#
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Why would GreenDay lie. So he can sell before us, or for the attention? Comon you have listened to their music, it is anti lying music.

TB
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah sorry...someone else is gonna have to share that...
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
First I called the office number and a lady told me all the company "representatives" were in a meeting. so I hung up with her and I got this off the web site: Rufus Paul Harris
Chief Executive Officer
Cell Phone:  678-255-7650
It took me about three times to get through to him. it's true I talked to him but I can't guarantee that what he said to me was true. All I can do is hope.

Call!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Totally honest tunes... Maaan!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
First I called the office number and a lady told me all the company "representatives" were in a meeting.

Call!

read: fishing for Marlin off the coast of Australia by now, lol...
 
Posted by banah18 on :
 
hello
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Trust you GreenDay... about as far as I can throw you. [Big Grin]

I think I was just excited at the possible slim chance of a PR or 10K because lord knows the previous 2096 SEC filings today have really had nothing to do with this stock.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
BB if you really are curious call TD and see if they say anything different...

it's strange you mention that second trade for 10000 at 4:02:03 because i'm not getting that one...

mine reads like this:

0.945 302700
16:07:52
0.95 10000
0.95 10880
16:02:01

the .0945 is red and the two at 0.95 are green

my question is if:

"red" trades are buys or sells ?

"green" trades are buys ot sells?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i can't honestly answer that...it's either buys and sells or above and below the bid buys...

i honestly have no clue...
 
Posted by POOLBOY on :
 
I trust u because if ur lying then u will look like a total jack a55!!! Just kidding!!!
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
I'll believe it when I see something for real
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Wow, i hope what Greenday said is true because its pretty much all over the FHAL world already. I dont know ya Greenday but i hope you are a straight shooter here.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
GD - Did he sound like he was packing luggage or pressing send on a fax machine? You know quite like an office, or loud like border patrol asking him for his passport.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
I cant' tell buys and sells on mine. Red is when the price is lower than the last price and green is when it is up a tick from previous price.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
red = buy is at bid
green = buy is at ask

they are all buys & sells - someone needs to buy if you wanna sell [Wink]

~BB
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah i'm almost positive that is how mine are as well...i'm reading the help section right now and that is what it's saying, lol...

help tabs work!

and if you don't have help tabs there is always Betting Babe to set you sraight!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
2294 SEC filings and all is boorrring....

Harley Davidson just released their 10-Q
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
oh and greenday...everyone is talking about your phone call...lol...super heated debate about the whole thing going down at ihub...that place is so funny...it's like reading a hardy boys novel, lol...or watching an episode of Scooby Doo...
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
for once im not proud to call myself a god damn BAG HOLDER
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Why are people questioning my honesty? Isn't it easier pick up the phone and to call yourself then wonder if I am lying. I am wondering if Rufas is lying. I too will only believe it when I see it. I can't even figure out why a CEO would answer is own phone. It's all to weird for me, but I'm still in.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Why are people questioning my honesty? Isn't it easier pick up the phone and to call yourself then wonder if I am lying. I am wondering if Rufas is lying. I too will only believe it when I see it. I can't even figure out why a CEO would answer is own phone. It's all to weird for me, but I'm still in.

Lots of skeptical reactions at this point in the game, no harm intended. I would call but i always feel like the 1000th caller and i just cant do it LOL.

How late can PRs come out? Any time or are there set times typically?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...a trans just went through for 0 shares at 17:20:41 at .96

someone is sitting on a keyboard in MM land...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
They are probably trolling this board and having a ball with you. [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
pal talk... talking about FHAL and 10k... fyi
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
hey green... let the skeptics be skeptics.... i just got back from the beach and actually glad with the outcome of today with no news. i called this morning and was told the same thing by ben stanley. He told me they were working on a release. the way it sounded was they were going to release it sometime during open market. but obviously not...
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Is there a time limit for when a PR can come out? Also, is there a limit for when something can be filed with the SEC? Because I thought I remember reading somewhere that you have until 6:00 to file something, for it to count for the day. Am I right, or just smoking something? And I just used the word "something" more times than I probably should have. Maybe I need to think some more, or something, eh?
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
Green = Price above last
Red= Price below last
Grey/White = Price same as last

As far as knowing if its a buy or sell... Ummm.. good luck figuring that out. Someone is buying at the bid or buy at the ask in every trade. So im not sure how u would like to color that? Maybe in rainbow? lol

BUt seriously, when i buy on the bid it shows up according to the above listed color chart. It never makes a difference when i buy or sell on bid or buy/sell on the ask. Everytime it always folows the above color chart..

But the people that want to know who bought / sold on a particular trade you need to buy Level 3 quotes.

For refrence: i use alphatrade and TDameritrade L2s
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
pal talk......saying 10k is on the way
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
pal talk......saying 10k is on the way

TAX???
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea but pal talk seems to know about as much as we do. I think they are all hyped about Greendays post actually so in essence we know more than they do....or something.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
jeese nevermind...

as the world turn...my head gets closer to exploding...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Finishing up the day at the SEC, they are just cleaning out a bunch Form 4(s) left over from the day. Total filings viewed 2453, total of interest 0.

Oh well, it is not like I was going to sell any today anyway. This stock is far from done.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I am watching but not expecting anything... last 40 filings have been form 4.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
there is a lot newbies in this board

"do you own DD guys" be careful
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, it seems its time to go hit up $1 margarita night at the local drinkin hole. I'll drink 15 for good luck. [Wink]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
there is a lot newbies in this board

"do you own DD guys" be careful

No worries, its gonna take more than a newbie to get my shares. [Smile]

(just dont tell anyone that im one of the newbies)

You better buy another chicken 10! Payday could be right around the corner!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
look at today's chart compared to thursday and friday's...

almost identical...although there is a slight upward trend...

not that any of that means anything, lol...just thought it looked pretty...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
6:01 at the SEC and 2477 filings of absolutely no interest. Last 60 have been form 4.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
6:01 at the SEC and 2477 filings of absolutely no interest. Last 60 have been form 4.

Hey Tax, what site do you use to view SEC filings?...
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
BB if you really are curious call TD and see if they say anything different...

it's strange you mention that second trade for 10000 at 4:02:03 because i'm not getting that one...

mine reads like this:

0.945 302700
16:07:52
0.95 10000
0.95 10880
16:02:01

the .0945 is red and the two at 0.95 are green

my question is if:

"red" trades are buys or sells ?

"green" trades are buys ot sells?

Uh, well let's see. Since green is +, then that would mean that green trades are purchases, and red trades are sales. Yellow is for a new high or low of the day. And blue is a trade out of sequence (away from best bid or ask).
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Edgar....
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Why are people questioning my honesty? Isn't it easier pick up the phone and to call yourself then wonder if I am lying. I am wondering if Rufas is lying. I too will only believe it when I see it. I can't even figure out why a CEO would answer is own phone. It's all to weird for me, but I'm still in.

Yea, I thought that it was weird to hear a CEO of any company answer his own phone. I didn't even think the CEO messed with such small things as talking to investors personally. If he's taking calls all day from you guys, who's doing his job??

I don't even know small business owners that answer their own line. They always have a gatekeeper (secretary) telling you he's in a meeting or out of the office.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
FHAL last trade was a sell 302700 shares i am sure .

my color setting were wrong my bad..
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
FHAL last trade was a sell 302700 shares i am sure .

my color setting were wrong my bad..

I checked this out on my historicle time and sales streamer and there was a trade notation, W (F), i looked it up and it appears to mean, W = average price (F)= informational perposes, dont know what to make of that!. it was on my alpha trade streamer.
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
I have been approved to release this.

First off, they have been trying to resolve the cusip number for the post merged company. As it turned out if they used the cusip for fhal post merger it may have caused delays and problems for the current cvsu or fhal share holders.

So they have asked for and received a new cusip number and are simply awaiting the nasd to assign a new ticker symbol so that the merger can be finalized. It is supposed to be the first thing handled at nasd in the morning.

The biggest delay thus far has been dealing with standard and poors convincing them a new cusip was in all shareholders best interest. This would have already have been a done deal if not for them, and that has now been resolved. Thank you S&P

The new cusip will be:
CUSIP NUMBER: 35904V 10 4
ISIN NUMBER.: US35904V1044

The temporary ticker symbol will be fhal post merger, and will eventually be converted into their permanent symbol of 3 that are available. CVSI, or CVSO, or CVSL. That could happen as early as tomorrow, but is of no significance to us as it will be done electronically.

you will find Fronthauls "new cusip" status by going to http://www.cusip.com/ and check the scrolling text at the bottom of the browser itself (the browser, not the webpage).

Yes folks this is the real deal.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
"I have been approved to release this."

Approved by who? How are you affiliated?
 
Posted by Sean on :
 
He didnt write that. Phil at HSM wrote that, im not sure what the deal is with that.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
and when would the hault be?
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
I am but a stock holder.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Sceptor are you Phil at HSM? and if so, then where did you get the info/approval to release?
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
I looked at your link, but I don't see anything streaming. It might be my slow computer though. Do you need to have an account with CUSIP to see this stuff?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
well if that's true !!right on!
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Nothing streams on a couple computers and different browers that I tried and he won't give a source....
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Sounds like bunk to me. Oh well. Maybe tomorrow, Rufus will prove to me that this is going to happen. I'm beginning to get a bit skeptical now. Too many bad memories from past penny trading and crooked CEO's.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
jeese nevermind...

as the world turn...my head gets closer to exploding...

Crab I'll FeEx you some duct tape so at least you'll have all the pieces.

No, that is not original...I stole it.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
I just called Rufas and he did answer on his cell, the number from the website. I asked for an update and he said "keep your eyes on the wires". I said can I expect to see news today? and he said yes. I asked if everything they have promised was still on track with the audits, fillings, and hault of this symbol. He said yes, everything is fine, keep your eyes on the lines.

I was gone for a while...and not that I am an overly trusting person...but if Greenday said that is what was said..I have complete faith that is what Rufas told Greenday...there is no reason that she would "make up" the phone call...and as she said...go ahead and call if you do not believe...she is simply stating what she was told...

And sorry Greenday...I don't think that you get a prize for being the first post...on pg 200.. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by portman on :
 
10ofcoolness summed it up for me.
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Thanks 10 - I missed you! BTW, today was my last day off for summer break. I start work tomorrow, booo.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Well I can guarantee you it is not a "slow" computer issue, but the way they programmed www.cusip.com any page within the site can have the www.cusip.com url so without more detail it will be difficult to find the section where you can view the status of the change.

I was able to find a Fidelity site that identifies CUSIP and lo and behold the number given was not found and FHAL gives a different one. Oh well. I guess we wait for actuall news.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well Sceptor did say "The new cusip will be:CUSIP NUMBER: 35904V 10 4, ISIN NUMBER.: US35904V1044"

WILL BE.

Im not sure why the link was given if the info isnt available however. We all have to sort through the nonsense here but honestly....what motivation would someone have to pump this stock now? I just dont see it. Sceptor seems to have a good rep over at ihub so i kinda feel that the "will be" will prove itself in the morning. IMO.
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
That post is my post, I am phil on HSM.

he say's he is phil......
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GreenDay:
Thanks 10 - I missed you! BTW, today was my last day off for summer break. I start work tomorrow, booo.

Ha Ha! My monsters start back in 2 weeks...(thank the Dear Lord)...the kids won't start back at your school for a while...will they?

(and if you are not a teacher...seems I recall you stating so...please disregard this post...as I am suffering from extreme summer vacation stress disorder! [Wink] )
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Yea, my students come back next Tues (in one week) We start early in Florida. I won't be able to trade much anymore till winter break, but I'll be keeping a very close eye on my xkem and fhal.

Goin to bed now, it's a school nite.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
sleep well...!!!
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
R U F U S spelled backwards kinda spells
S U F U R or suffer ?

Just have to much time on my hands.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Tax...I found the same Fidelity site and one other (Zimmerman's). Each gave the same response as you. I guess we'll just have to see what tomorrow brings.

BTW, Greenday, I believe you as well.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
R U F U S spelled backwards kinda spells
S U F U R or suffer ?

Just have to much time on my hands.

RUFUS
Gender: Masculine

Usage: Ancient Roman, English, Biblical

Pronounced: ROO-fus [key]

Roman cognomen which meant "red-haired" in Latin. Several early saints had this name, including one mentioned in one of Paul's epistles in the New Testament. As a nickname it was used by William II Rufus, a king of England, because of his red hair.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
R U F U S spelled backwards kinda spells
S U F U R or suffer ?

Just have to much time on my hands.

OH MY....Yes..too much time...
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
ok I'm back.

the scrolling ticker only seems to scroll during business hours (I guess). Get their phone number adn call them in the morning. The cusip is assigned to fronthaul, and will be changed to conversion solutions during the completion.

the cusip will be tied to the symbol in the morning so however long that takes it's showtime after that.

The big delay was S&P and they have now signed off on it. S&P assigns cusips. I never knew that either until now.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Tax...I found the same Fidelity site and one other (Zimmerman's). Each gave the same response as you. I guess we'll just have to see what tomorrow brings.

BTW, Greenday, I believe you as well.

We will see... we will see... [Eek!]
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Thanks Milliam, guess Mr. Red Haired Sufer lied to me though about a pr today, hope he comes through in the AM. I kinda believe this Phil guy too even though he won't name a source. Guess we will all know the truth soon enough.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Sceptor, comon... business hours? On an informational web site? What is the gain of programming a site to hide information at night?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Do you or your source have a CUSIP status request ID?
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
greenday, I was asked not too. I do have a sense of intregrity.

taxback. look on the website get the number and call them. I dont know what else to tell you. I am a share holder of fhal, I dont really care what else you need to prove or disprove. I simply was asked to keep everyone informed so they know what is going on.
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
I'm sorry, I just can't hold you as a credible source. What does the S&P have anything to do on this stock? We are talking OTCBB to NASDAQ.


quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
ok I'm back.

the scrolling ticker only seems to scroll during business hours (I guess). Get their phone number adn call them in the morning. The cusip is assigned to fronthaul, and will be changed to conversion solutions during the completion.

the cusip will be tied to the symbol in the morning so however long that takes it's showtime after that.

The big delay was S&P and they have now signed off on it. S&P assigns cusips. I never knew that either until now.


 
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I guess you were right:
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quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:

.......
The big delay was S&P and they have now signed off on it. S&P assigns cusips. I never knew that either until now.


 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I happen to feel real good about this. Looking for some very positive days ahead....
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
the scrolling ticker only seems to scroll during business hours (I guess).

perhaps it is streaming real-time information.

therefore it does not stream when there is no real-time, as that would be uninformative. [Wink]

~BB
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Nice work people, nice work. [Smile]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
the scrolling ticker only seems to scroll during business hours (I guess).

perhaps it is streaming real-time information.

therefore it does not stream when there is no real-time, as that would be uninformative. [Wink]

~BB

Yes I agree BB, but even with your development experience you have to find the possibility of "real-time" information streaming on the status bar of a web browser rather than the contents of the site sounds about as fishy as it gets. I mean how would you protect or disclaim information that does not appear within the contents of your site.

TB
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
I posted this on Ihub, it is an email returned to me from OTCBB, i sent last friday and they returned it this morning, after seeing Phil's post I think it makes much more sense.

otcbbfeedback [otcbbfeedback*nasdaq.com]
CVSU was acquired by FHAL for 1 sh FHAL. Please see link:

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=07/28/2006&mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB

FrontHaul Group Inc (FHAL) will change their name, symbol and CUSIP number in the near future. We understand that they will go by the name of Conversion Solutions. The CVSU symbol, however, cannot be reused for this name change.

The NASDAQ Stock Market
Corporate Data Operations
80 Merritt Boulevard
Trumbull, CT 06611
Phone: 203-375-9609
Fax: 203-502-5480



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: xxxxx
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 2:06 PM
To: otcbbfeedback
Subject:


I have a stock that I need some clarification about if you could please help.

CVSU.pk is reverse merging into FHAL.ob, upon completion of the merger they are going to trade under cvsu.ob, what is the process that must take place in order to do that.

I have seen on the website that cvsu.pk was deleted, can they now relist under cvsu.ob to begin trading?
Thank you for any clarification
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
This is really too much thought no matter what the benefit of posting a wild goose chase.

I see no reason to spend any more effort trying to validate information that may or may not be released tomorrow morning. It is not like I could do anything until open anyway.

I am sure I have spent the time up until now because I am bored, and it sure beats looking at SEC filings all day.

TB
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
Ok, unless three people here have all been lying on what looks like some great DD, we might be in for a pleasant surprise coming up....I don't know when...

GreenDay
Scepter
mnvestor

Good JOB GUYS!


quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
I posted this on Ihub, it is an email returned to me from OTCBB, i sent last friday and they returned it this morning, after seeing Phil's post I think it makes much more sense.

otcbbfeedback [otcbbfeedback*nasdaq.com]
CVSU was acquired by FHAL for 1 sh FHAL. Please see link:

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=07/28/2006&mkt_ctg=NON-OTCBB

FrontHaul Group Inc (FHAL) will change their name, symbol and CUSIP number in the near future. We understand that they will go by the name of Conversion Solutions. The CVSU symbol, however, cannot be reused for this name change.

The NASDAQ Stock Market
Corporate Data Operations
80 Merritt Boulevard
Trumbull, CT 06611
Phone: 203-375-9609
Fax: 203-502-5480



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: xxxxx
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 2:06 PM
To: otcbbfeedback
Subject:


I have a stock that I need some clarification about if you could please help.

CVSU.pk is reverse merging into FHAL.ob, upon completion of the merger they are going to trade under cvsu.ob, what is the process that must take place in order to do that.

I have seen on the website that cvsu.pk was deleted, can they now relist under cvsu.ob to begin trading?
Thank you for any clarification


 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
heah. dat's old school, and boy i hated when they did that.

remember how they used to scroll little messages and stuff on the bottom in the status bar?

i think it was a javascript banner or something like that.

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
the scrolling ticker only seems to scroll during business hours (I guess).

perhaps it is streaming real-time information.

therefore it does not stream when there is no real-time, as that would be uninformative. [Wink]

~BB

Yes I agree BB, but even with your development experience you have to find the possibility of "real-time" information streaming on the status bar of a web browser rather than the contents of the site sounds about as fishy as it gets. I mean how would you protect or disclaim information that does not appear within the contents of your site.

TB


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
KittyKat...I'm with you...I think things are falling into place...getting closer...tick tock...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
TaxBack:

open this url in IE

http://www.ppweb.net/scrolling.html

is that the type of scrolling text sceptor is referring to?

~BB
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
All signs are pointing to yes, but we do have to give Rufus some leeway...even though he did say Aug 1 soo many times, it could be a day or two after...who knows?

Let's see what tomorrow brings...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Honestly, I don't think any of them are lying.

I can not prove their facts no matter how much (bias-ly, since I am long.) I would like to help do so. With that being said I will also say that I additionally can not think of one reason why they would benefit from pumping this stock at this point and time.

Rock on, thanks guys for bringing us the information I will be sure to get a few extra winks tonight since I will not be stressing about this stock. (For the record tho.... I still want the 10K tomorrow.)
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
pretty cool BB [Smile]
 
Posted by portman on :
 
I am not finding anything different than anyone else or comming to different conclusions or I would post it.

Nice challenge vs. response here to be sure we have solid information.
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
LOL, this thread on allstocks is a lot better DD-Wise that the one at ihub....it's looking like a fight at the playground over there.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I would hope that no one will ever stoop to that level... you guys have done a great job and I have followed all yer threads (my own DD).

If this works out like I think it will... I have to thank for helping me feel confident and secure enough to risk all that I was willing to lose, and still sleep at night.

Cheers and GLTA.
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
Conversion Solutions, Inc. Updates Shareholders
PR Newswire - July 31, 2006 23:46

KENNESAW, Ga., July 31, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL), a Delaware Corporation, updates its shareholders to the effect that, the Fronthaul Group has received a new CUSIP number from Standard and Poors' CUSIP Bureau. The old CUSIP number of 361060 20 5 was replaced by CUSIP number 35904V 10 4, the ISIN number is US 35904v1044. Additionally, a corporate name change is currently under discussion with NASDAQ officials, there may need to be a trading acronym change, in any event the company will update shareholders as the discussions progress.

"I would like to report that, 104 shareholders have reported selling their company stock due to the false and misleading information posted on internet web-sites; www.our-street.com or www.**********.com. Our attorneys will be in contact with these individuals shortly. They will be providing them with an affidavit package that will require their formal statements regarding the matter," stated CEO, Rufus Paul Harris and he goes onto say, "If anyone feels that they have been persuaded, or influenced in any way, to sell their company stock by information provided by person(s) on either of these two sites, or any other such site that we may not be aware of at this date, and would like to join a legal action to recoup their losses, then please send an email to stopthefraud*cvsu.us. Please include your complete contact information including telephone number."
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
WOW again!!! that is really nice work groupies!!! you guys/gals are top notch!!! most of you have been around the block a few times and it show's!!i hope you all make HUGE profits on this,,and most of all,,,THIS WHOLE THING IS GONNA CHANGE ALOT OF POEPLE'S LIVES!!!!carryon'''doing what you do best!! HIGH 5 RUFUS!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
Oh Boy, Shorty gonna fry like bacon on a hot Alabama morning tomorrow...

Glad I purchased my 10K shares back. I'm ready for the ride ! Lash your hands to the helm longs, this storm ain't over yet. But Paradise Isle is getting even closer....
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
Tomorrow morning shorts are going to wake up and realize that they will be in serious trouble if the halt happens. Christ, imagine being 10K shares short and this thing opens at $15 and actually stays there.

There is going to be some serious bloodshed here on one side or the other, now it's looking like the shorts are going to get killed....

And Rufus is taking no prisoners...love the 104 shareholders thing. This has certainly been the most entertaining penny stock since IBZT and the Virtual Keyboard !!!
 
Posted by vettes76 on :
 
Oh my God, did you just reference the Virtual Keyboard? Damn, I made a ton of money two years ago on that run up and just checked my spread sheet; I sold * 0.07. That was the second biggest money maker next to my tie of UAL and CHTR back in the day. I made nearly $30K on CHTR and $28K on UAL in 2003. Ibzt was good in the beginning of 04 but then I backed out of the market for the rest of that year. Last year I played the contrarion on KKD once it hit $5 and did very well. This years winner is FHAL. Hopefully I can slam all the past years with this win % wise. If not I am looking at CLBE, PGPM and/or RXPC.

GLTA, honestly wish everyone the best!
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
I'm holding FHAL for the entertainment value provided everyday. FHAL is not the only stock in my portfolio so win or lose I win. You all are great.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
there are gonna be alot of happy campers come AM tommorrow...

thank god he stuck to his word...lol...he even made sure to release that PR today...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
*yawn* morning paper.. i mean evening news [Wink]

Conversion Solutions, Inc. Updates Shareholders

By PR Newswire
Last Update: 7/31/2006 11:46:24 PM


KENNESAW, Ga., July 31, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (FHAL), a Delaware Corporation, updates its shareholders to the effect that, the Fronthaul Group has received a new CUSIP number from Standard and Poors' CUSIP Bureau. The old CUSIP number of 361060 20 5 was replaced by CUSIP number 35904V 10 4, the ISIN number is US 35904v1044. Additionally, a corporate name change is currently under discussion with NASDAQ officials, there may need to be a trading acronym change, in any event the company will update shareholders as the discussions progress.

"I would like to report that, 104 shareholders have reported selling their company stock due to the false and misleading information posted on internet web-sites; www.our-street.com or www.**********.com. Our attorneys will be in contact with these individuals shortly. They will be providing them with an affidavit package that will require their formal statements regarding the matter," stated CEO, Rufus Paul Harris and he goes onto say, "If anyone feels that they have been persuaded, or influenced in any way, to sell their company stock by information provided by person(s) on either of these two sites, or any other such site that we may not be aware of at this date, and would like to join a legal action to recoup their losses, then please send an email to stopthefraud*cvsu.us. Please include your complete contact information including telephone number."

About Conversion Solutions, Inc

CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's primary service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance coverage to target companies, in the currently under served $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. These services will enable our client businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase their value. CVSU is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at www.cvsu.us.

SOURCE Conversion Solutions, Inc.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
oh maaan you guys are already discussing the news???

does anyone sleep on this board?

methinks Rufus is on the warpath [Smile]

~BB
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so whadya thinks gonna happen tomorrow BB? or do you dare not speculate at this point, lol? i say just for giggles this makes us gap down...

oh and Rufus puts a pic of himself standing on an aircraft carrier in a flight suit on the CVSU website proclaiming the war is over...

and for informational purposes the www.cvsu.us website is down at this late hour...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
hey Crab, their site is up worx fine for me.

im not going to speculate. id say that if rufus is releasing news while burning the midnite oil his plans may far outweigh my imagination.

i do think he has an ax to grind, and that ax is going to benefit the shareholders - and whack the shorters.

nitey all, i dont wanna miss the opening bloodshed, i mean bell... [Wink]

~BB
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
nighty night...i'm off to dream of 15 baggers and axes being grinded...

and the website works for me now as well...may have just been maintenance that ended before I hit enter...
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
THIS ONE'S REAL FUNY STUFF ON I-HUB--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------Posted by: JJSeabrook
In reply to: Whisper Number who wrote msg# 24829 Date:8/1/2006 12:40:22 AM
Post #of 24882

Yah, do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself about...that's what it's all about! Put your left foot in, WHISPER, take your left foot out....LOL Too funny...I'll buy you a beer to cry in.

JJ

Posted by: Whisper Number
In reply to: CBGB who wrote msg# 24824 Date:8/1/2006 12:38:49 AM
Post #of 24829

Where's the news? Maybe instead of pursuing ********** and our-street he should concentrate his magic on making his shares disappear and reappear at $15 a share. Abracadabra. Hocus pocus.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
thats not funny its annoying and detracts from the real news listed above.
:-X sorry, spoilsport.

~BB
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/--LOOK UNDER popular stories!!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
http://finance.yahoo.com/--LOOK UNDER popular stories!!!

HELL YEA!!!! GOOD EXPOSURE IF IT STAYS THERE!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
FRONT PAGE STUFF!
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
FRONT PAGE STUFF!

DO YOU SLEEP? HEHEHEHE
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
nice, Rufus lined us up to be the early morning's "featured news".

ok really, gnite y'all.

~BB
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
SOMETIMES!!!lol!!! only 11.49 pm here!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
even us rednecks up(NORTH) here know a good thing when they see it!!!
 
Posted by mathis on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
SOMETIMES!!!lol!!! only 11.49 pm here!!

LUCKY!!! its one hour later here! well cant wait for tomorrow..good luck and night!!!!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
WE ARE ON THE SHO-LIST
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Threshold Security List - Monday, July 31, 2006
Symbol Security Name Market
Category Reg SHO Threshold Flag Rule 3210
FHAL FRONTHAUL GROUP INC U Y N
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
As defined in Rule 203(c)(6) of Regulation SHO, a “threshold security” is any equity security of any issuer that is registered under Section 12 of the Exchange Act, or that is required to file reports under Section 15(d) of the Exchange Act (commonly referred to as reporting securities), where, for five consecutive settlement days:
There are aggregate fails to deliver at a registered clearing agency of 10,000 shares or more per security;

The level of fails is equal to at least one-half of one percent of the issuer’s total shares outstanding; and

The security is included on a list published by a self-regulatory organization (SRO).
A security ceases to be a threshold security if it does not exceed the specified level of fails for five consecutive settlement days
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
does this mean FHAL IS REALLY SHORTED????
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
yes it does!!!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/aspx/regsho.aspx
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
great work guys. Lets hope all of this comes to fruition now.glta
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
*YAWN* Good morning everyone....is it payday?
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Yes, a very good morning it is Catia.

Even better that I have more settled funds today. [Smile]
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Talk about a last minute release. I guess he did get it out in time for yesterday! Way to go Rufus.

Now do we really get to screw the shorters today?

GLTA!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
It looks like everyone was up all night and sleeping in today. BB promised to be around for the opening bloodshed though....her alarm is probably screaming right now. [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Good ol' boy Rufus took down the shorters after hours yes in deed it does look like it! [Smile]
 
Posted by silver2gold on :
 
That PR is great, revenge will be sweet. Morning shorts time to refinace the home. Rufus has a plan and if everyone would stop and listen to what he said ( I'm not your typical CEO ) all longs will have a great future if they choose to ride this out.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I'm really thinking this guy CAN bring us to $60.. and $100 per.share!! And I'm going nuts over $15..

Yes, I'm long term, Finally caught a Microsoft!!!!

GLTA! Love you people ~
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
No pre-market volume this morning. Usually there is a couple thousand by now.
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
I admit that I flipped this last week and took some profits. I got back in on Wednesday because of the potential. As I stated last night "I'm holding FHAL for the entertainment value provided everyday. FHAL is not the only stock in my portfolio so win or lose I win. You all are great."
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
morning!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
So is FHAL going to trade this morning? Or halted from the beginning?
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
So is FHAL going to trade this morning? Or halted from the beginning?

I havent read anything offical that would tell us the answer to this.. POssible i missed somthing.?
 
Posted by icraig21 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
http://www.otcbb.com/dynamic/marketwatch/mwsubhome.stm -----HALT INFO-----

Nothing New, Just thought it would be good to have on the current page
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
a corporate name change is currently under discussion with NASDAQ officials, there may need to be a trading acronym change, in any event the company will update shareholders as the discussions progres
-----------------------------------
So I take it things are the same till the new symbol hits.. lucky for shorts!!! And look they are buying premarket now! lol ~

To ....the....MOON ~ [Big Grin]
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
GLTA!!
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Good Morning All! The ship is turning and all is looking good, but wait until the throttles are thrown forward with the 10k, halt and open!

Patience gets old ... but still works!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
HAHA! I called the Gap down last night! This is great...do i win a prize?

holy cow...some big sales are going through...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
We ALL win a prise Crab! ha ~
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
it`s over a buck again!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
With a HALT coming.. who would sell?!! Up up and away today!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Good morning... congrats GD on your news. And Phil by the looks of it the news backed your story too. Nice start this morning, and I am once again scouring the SEC docs waiting impatiently for my 10K.


Will let all know when I see something of interest.

TB
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
ok everyone together now... PUUUUUUSHHHHHHHH [Big Grin]

mornin all!

~BB
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Oh yeah... and congrats! Rufas! the news didn't hurt you credibility either! I like CEOs that do what they say they are going too.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
ok everyone together now... PUUUUUUSHHHHHHHH [Big Grin]

mornin all!

~BB

BB I saw your post last night but after I clicked on the link allstocks.com crashed. No just kidding... kind of. I had a reply, that said yeah I have used that javaScript on several sites over the years, but never for pertinent information. Couldn't enter it though I was having problems with allstocks.com. For about a half hour last night I was recieveing a "Page can not be found" 404 error from this web site.

TB
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
So trading might halt thios morning?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
1.06...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so...since they released that PR ya'll think the FHAL audit is done?
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Nice stairstep movement! Stairway to heaven anyone?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
this is gunna pop here soon.... The ? is how far??
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
big time!!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
shorts need to cover ASAP!! make em pay!!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I can't think that this FHAL audit is really holding up this thing. It is a good excuse and stall tactic but let's remember FHAL was reporting quarterly to the SEC.

Now I am sure there were discrepencies, and they have to dig to see exactly what it is that they bought. But honestly I think this is a shake to get the weak hands out and catch shorty off guard.

From the looks of the SHO report and this mornings activity. I think it is working.

TB
 
Posted by icraig21 on :
 
My Prediction:

Rufus releases a PR at 12:00 saying that trading will be halted at 1:00 (lunchtime lull). Shorters madly scramble to cover their shorts, PPS goes to 1.27 and Rufus halts trading at 12:45 just to stick it to the shorters one last time before they get back from lunch.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Let's play the EOD close game... -anyone?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
If they release the 10K into this current situation. We are all going to be alot richer by the end of the day.

(edit)My opinion... on that last post sorry all.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Is there a simple explanation about what the SHO report represents along with possible outcomes?

I know it apparently means the MM's brokers borrowed shares but someone on the other thread mentioned that there are several remedies for that...some of which may not neccesarily be good...can anyone elaborate on that?

Or am I totally off base here?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
1.39 [Razz]

for no particular reason...
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Let's play the EOD close game... -anyone?


 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'm guessing 1.56

does anyone have any clue as to my previous post?
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Crab...I'm not up on the other thread, what remedies are they giving (the good and bad)?

Thanks.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
buying on ask! hope we see that all DARN DAY!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
they didn't...i asked and never got an answer...that is why i'm asking here...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
1.39 [Razz]

for no particular reason...
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Let's play the EOD close game... -anyone?


$1.50 -why not [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
The SHO report basically puts the stock on "notice", meaning that short sales must be covered within a certain period of time. I used to be an expert on it since I was involved on a couple of stocks that seemed to be on it every single week. As far as I remember most of your large MMs view it as a negative because of the possible penalties. They will be working today to cover for sure. others will wait till the last minute.

It and the PR are definitely causing this action this morning.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
If I was short, this movement would shiver my timbers!!!!! Scary Larry to watch the tortuous slow gentle rise while losing money all the time and then, guess what? I have to buy to cover and I don't even get to have fun like the longs! I buy and I'm out!

Thank God I'm not short! (house of pain!)
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I would really like to see a little squeez action before this gets halted....It would be kinda funny to see it hit like $6 just before it halts.... I wonder how many MM's we would read about jumping out of windows or off bridges because they knew $15 was around the corner, and they did not cover...Poor MM's........DIE YOU BLASTARDS!!!!HAAAA-HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
The SHO report basically puts the stock on "notice", meaning that short sales must be covered within a certain period of time. I used to be an expert on it since I was involved on a couple of stocks that seemed to be on it every single week. As far as I remember most of your large MMs view it as a negative because of the possible penalties. They will be working today to cover for sure. others will wait till the last minute.

It and the PR are definitely causing this action this morning.

thanks...so i guess there really isn't a situation where this could cause us a whole lot of grief right?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
There are some really goo SEC pages on the SHO list I will see if I can dig them up.

So far a slow morning at SEC filing central 499 filings and none of any interest.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
mad scramble!!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Margin accounts sometimes allow brokerage houses to short a stock. It could limit your purchases of a particular stock if they have large positions to cover because of the SHO report.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
watching the level 2's with the sound effects in my head of walls falling is really coool [Big Grin]
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
watching the MM`s scramble around on the B/A looks like alot of them may be trying to cover, good for us! sucks for them! my heart bleeds!!! LOL!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Ya.....This is gunna freak oput a few shorts in a little while.... We start gettin in the $1.30 range....This could get very ugly for those that are short.....Let the squeeeeeeez begin....


Who had that juicer???
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah...our closing predictions...(if this keeps up this way)...are going to prove to be rather low...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
If your brokerage house gets stuck with an open short position and you are unknowingly trading air you could have some major problems when you go to cash in. This is why they recomend certs on margin accounts.
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
What was Rufus' Pho Number yesterday from GreenDay?
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
MM - AUTO has the high quote on the ask side at 5.57! now THAT would be sweet!!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
I would really like to see a little squeez action before this gets halted....It would be kinda funny to see it hit like $6 just before it halts.... I wonder how many MM's we would read about jumping out of windows or off bridges because they knew $15 was around the corner, and they did not cover...Poor MM's........DIE YOU BLASTARDS!!!!HAAAA-HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

MMs have a large war chest.. i doubt this would significantly affect them.. it may break even with them tho.. i'm sure they have their ways of covering.. but i'm just glad we're going up =)
 
Posted by leanlow06 on :
 
what about my account, i had a cash account when i bought shares in this comp. and then later upgraded to a margin account.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Ok, $1.56

Also for no particular reason. [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
today has been a sight for sore eyes! . . . I've already shot a message to Chartwalker - but any of you Wisconsinites that want to partake (or anyone else close enough) - we're getting together for some celebration drinks this week in the Wausau area when this thing pops - let me know if you're interested!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
not the type of account, how you purchased.

if you didnt buy on margin, and you paid for your shares, you are fine.
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by leanlow06:
what about my account, i had a cash account when i bought shares in this comp. and then later upgraded to a margin account.


 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
New HOD! Let's go BABY!!!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
The dogs are really tryin to keep a lid on this ...Been trading in half pennies too.... Hasn't done that in a while..

Only thing the MM's are gunna be short on is there bag of tricks!!
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
printing 1.20!! another wall has fallen!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Ya.....This is gunna freak oput a few shorts in a little while.... We start gettin in the $1.30 range....This could get very ugly for those that are short.....Let the squeeeeeeez begin....


Who had that juicer???

The juicer is polished and ready to send! ha ~ Congrats too on calling that close the other day, I'm 0-2 on that [Smile]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Oh the pain... this is almost too fun to watch. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
If you think about it, even though ppl said they would sell less than 15 after the merger, the shorters will be the ones BUYING from the sellers, trying to cover before their mess gets worse...IMO should be a very nice squeeze......
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Lookin' for a sell off around here..profit takers...it will dip again....IMO...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Crack, snackle,crunch... -Rufus stepping on "Dung Beetles!" LMAO!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
whoa, nice buy 75k shares at 1.19
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
This action sure does give me a bit more faith that this is the real deal....GLTA!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i was thinking we get to about 1.35, 1.40 before a sell off...back to about 1.20 or so...then we keep on keepin on...

haha...or we keep going up through $2 today...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
50,000 * 1.20
75,000 * 1.19
20,000 * 1.21

gee, lil slow this morning eh? LOL!

~BB
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Wow... nice size orders rolling through ~~~
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
when we break 1.25, 1.30 will fall VERY fast!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
this keeps moving like this...lotsa people gonna jump on the band wagon again...
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
when is the merger day? thinking of getting back in with a small amount
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
New HOD!!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
ya'll see ARCA? 199.00 on the ask, lol...

and more others than ever above two...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
look at the volume today! ha ~~ [Big Grin]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
May just get to 1.50 before we get a sell off....If we get a sell off..

Anybody know the sqeez trigger price on this????
 
Posted by dog on :
 
NYMEX trading halt from 11-1130
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
today has been a sight for sore eyes! . . . I've already shot a message to Chartwalker - but any of you Wisconsinites that want to partake (or anyone else close enough) - we're getting together for some celebration drinks this week in the Wausau area when this thing pops - let me know if you're interested!

Hey im in Michigan but not passing up a party, and i guess its not THAT far! During the week though? Ouch!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Anybody know the sqeez trigger price on this????

naw...i missed the memo...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Ann Arbor MI here...anybody around?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Ann Arbor MI here...anybody around?

HASH BASH!!!!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
when will the pr be out?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Ann Arbor MI here...anybody around?

Hey, no way! Im about 20 minutes south of you in what we now call "Cabellaville!". I drive through AA every ady on my way to work. Party at ABC eh Dog? [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Ann Arbor MI here...anybody around?

HASH BASH!!!!
Haha, Rat. People seem to know Ann Arbor for "certain things" eh?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee...you see a bounce in you "flags"?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I'm only 20 minutes south of you catia....10 lives around here too......LETS PARTY!!! Get that chicken goin 10!!!!! I gotta P
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Me, I know Ann Arbor for undergrad, graduate school, and a job. And beautiful fall days filled with Big Ten Football!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I'm up for it...Whoo hoo!!!!

edit...wait..I just saw the I gotta p from maumee...I ain't cookin!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
today has been a sight for sore eyes! . . . I've already shot a message to Chartwalker - but any of you Wisconsinites that want to partake (or anyone else close enough) - we're getting together for some celebration drinks this week in the Wausau area when this thing pops - let me know if you're interested!

Hey im in Michigan but not passing up a party, and i guess its not THAT far! During the week though? Ouch!
-Like I said, that first round is on me! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Hang on 10!!! I'm haven some tech. difficulties..
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Ann Arbor sounds good to me! Nice place .... been there many times.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
This stock should cover my student loans....
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Me, I know Ann Arbor for undergrad, graduate school, and a job. And beautiful fall days filled with Big Ten Football!

Yea, of course there is more to AA than Hash Bash but thats what i typically hear about. [Smile]

Maumee, i know right where you are....i frequent the cinemas down there. Im pitchin in for chicken!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
There a nice, upscale Chicago owned bar on Main St. called Rush Street Station. It has great drinks and amazing tapas and food. From 4-6 Happy Hour is half of everything. I already took the day off. Always looking to save a buck!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
$1.33 if it is still open
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
let's see how fast she bounces back up! ha~
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
bleh.. MMs would save themselves and us a lot of time if they just let it run to $2, i'm sure a lot of ppl are willing to sell..
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
sellers out of the way !!!let's go up again!!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Friday off, 3 day weekend, even if this stock tanks...I'll be drinkin
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
anyone else pick up some cheap shares at 97-98 ???
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
It shot so much I think daytraders are back! lol
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
anyone else pick up some cheap shares at 97-98 ???

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
anyone else pick up some cheap shares at 97-98 ???

I got some for my mom way back when at that price. And still HOLDING! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Arca's at the bid now istead of down at .91

Gonna bounce from here?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
10k right about NOW!!!!???
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
should...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
10k right about NOW!!!!???

Yea, now would be good. Please?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
there still cheap boy's and girl's!!! still a short term 15 bagger!!!!ooopppsss i let the CAT OUT OF THE BAG!!!!! lol!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Taxback is all over that....
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Nope SYGY... 657 SEC filing and none of any interest. Waste Services Inc. heard you and put out their 10-Q if it is any consulation. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

TB
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
It may not see under 1.10 again for a while..I think 1.35 is gunna be tough to get thru....We should close....If everything keeps on the way it is.....We should close around 1.49 +
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
that sudden surge musta painted a pretty picture on everybody's chart's
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I'm not even charting this right now, having too much fun reading message boards -ha!

I know where it's going after the symbol change [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
let's move...c'mon...keep it goin'!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Come on new HOD!!!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I feel like Robin Hood.... feel the burn in yer shorts!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
i guess we better have our sell order's at 100$ not 15$ or how can i say it! ----------(don't get caught with your pants down)----------
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
i guess we better have our sell order's at 100$ not 15$ or how can i say it! ----------(don't get caught with your pants down)----------

or... your "shorts" down!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
what a team!! of groupies,,,i think our parties,,would be just as crazy,,,i'llbring the grass!k
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
have an Amsterdam good time huh? [Smile]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I still am uneasy without a 10K in my hand... Please, please, please.... release it before lunch. then I can print it off and go have a relaxing lunch at the pub.

Heck at that point if the 10K is good I will stop watching altogether and just come back in here to see how much money I have made.

TB
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
t-i-t-t-i-e-s-a-n-d-b-e-e-r=fun time!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
t-i-t-t-i-e-s-a-n-d-b-e-e-r=fun time!

Who needs beer really?
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
boat is now docked at 1.20,,,just a quick beer then we have to go!!10k
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I still am uneasy without a 10K in my hand... Please, please, please.... release it before lunch. then I can print it off and go have a relaxing lunch at the pub.

Heck at that point if the 10K is good I will stop watching altogether and just come back in here to see how much money I have made.

TB

Yes we need a 10k today or I'll be nervous for the first time.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
10k is where it's at, -going into the slow part of the day now ~
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
gotta go work now! but will check into see the news!glta
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
If this hits, I am gonna want to party like Patrick Bateman...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
820 SEC filings today and none of any interest. Except "P", "F", and "Chang" just bought some more restricted shares of P.F. Changs China Bistro. [Big Grin]

TB
 
Posted by dog on :
 
nah... Kevin Federline ... think about it...2 trades= 2 kids = millions
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
If this hits, I am gonna want to party like Patrick Bateman...

Minus the whole murderous rampages...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
t-i-t-t-i-e-s-a-n-d-b-e-e-r=fun time!

Who needs beer really?
me, seeing as i already got my own set of the former [Wink]

~BB
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Wow... we silly... we bored... we think we makes some money...

-Golem
 
Posted by dog on :
 
FHAL my precioussss....
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Betting Babe has already shown her web development powers, but for everyone else I thought I would share with you my page for monitoring the SEC filings. It is extremely simple and hardly worth the time but tools are tools in this game and unless you got something better this will allow you to monitor the SEC Filings on your own if you want.

Here are the instructions:
(if these do not get posted right I will try again.)

Steps for creating your own SEC Filing watch page.

1.) Open the Notepad program on your windows based PC. (Apple computers have a similar program, but I can't remember what it is.)

2.) Copy and Paste, or type the code below into the blank window of Notepad.

3.) Click on {File},{Save As...} in the tool bar.

4.) Replace the "*.txt" with "edgar.htm" and save the file to your desktop, and you are done.

Just double click on the edgar file on your desktop and it will open up a very simple frame page in your prefered browser. The main frame is set too the Edgar web page that shows todays SEC Filings. A simple meta refresh script on the page head tells the page to refresh the screen every 30 seconds. It really is simple but is a nice way to look at static information that updates throughout the day. [Smile]

Enjoy,
TB

code:
 
<!-- Beginning -->
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="30;URL=edgar.htm">
</head>

<frameset rows="*,1">
<frame src="http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/default.aspx" name="top">
<frame src="" name="bottom">
</frameset>
</html>
<!-- End -->


 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Well that was stupid.. I just noticed the refresh URL code is not relative... It will only work on my machine. I will make an update to the URL and repost.

(Edited the above code it works now.)
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Thanks Tax.....But I think I'll let YOU tell me when sumpin good comes out... [Wink] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Thanks Tax.....But I think I'll let YOU tell me when sumpin good comes out... [Wink] [Big Grin]

Oh believe me I will... but I have used this page for more than one stock at this point. So I felt like sharing.

[Smile] TB
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Hold the Fort down Gang!!!

I gotta go for a bit...

Buh-Bye now!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Later!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Enjoy,
TB

code:
 
<!-- Beginning -->
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="30;URL=edgar.htm">
</head>

<frameset rows="*,1">
<frame src="http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/default.aspx" name="top">
<frame src="" name="bottom">
</frameset>
</html>
<!-- End -->


soooo cool thx!
i have no powers i just guess well [Big Grin]
~BB
 
Posted by skip on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
820 SEC filings today and none of any interest. Except "P", "F", and "Chang" just bought some more restricted shares of P.F. Changs China Bistro. [Big Grin]

TB

That's funny, my girlfriend manages a PF Chang's...their stock has been taking a beating lately, no wonder they are buying it up at these levels...good luck to you guys in FHAL, I was originally in this at .27, flipped a bunch, now out, hope it works out for you all!
 
Posted by Neptunetrader94 on :
 
Someone needs to get a hold of Rufus today...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...the s tocklemon site is offering a reward if anyone comes forth with info regarding the hacking of their site, lol...

glassman posted it over on the hotstocks board...
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
lol
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Neptunetrader94:
Someone needs to get a hold of Rufus today...

I think it might be a good idea to leave him alone to pursue the ticker symbol. IMO, that is the hold up. The ticker needs to be in place before the 10K and SB4 filings. It would be much worse to File and then halt and have to wait days for a new ticker symbol. Bashers would have a field day. We need to continue having a little patience, it's now in NASD's hands. I don't like waiting anymore than anyone else but that's just where we are at. At least we know that they are working on it.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
That is good... Those dirty hackers! Who put these lies up there?
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I just tried calling Rufus's cell phone a couple times but got his voicemail (which is not accepting messages at this time).
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
He can pursue the ticker symbol later... I want a 10K! Prove to me you have a ton of money and my investment is safe. The hand is dealt show your cards. TaxBack04 is calling!

TB
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Does the 10k include both fhal and cvsu's financials?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Someone at p a l talk said this

FYI- Problems with The Fronthaul Group’s new CUSIP number from Standard and Poors' CUSIP Bureau and the NASDAQ will result in a delay in the release of the 10K. Mr. Harris plans on releasing the 10K exactly 2 hours before the trading halt. This halt will occur two hour before EOD tomorrow.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
well, i guess that means someone knows my schedule and knows im shooting tomorrow.

DANGIT

I WANT IT NOOOOOOOOW [Mad]

~BB

quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
Someone at p a l talk said this

FYI- Problems with The Fronthaul Group’s new CUSIP number from Standard and Poors' CUSIP Bureau and the NASDAQ will result in a delay in the release of the 10K. Mr. Harris plans on releasing the 10K exactly 2 hours before the trading halt. This halt will occur two hour before EOD tomorrow.


 
Posted by CRab on :
 
then the 10K comes out at twelve tomorrow? according to someone on pal talk?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Well if that is not showing all your cards I don't know what is. Do you think the source of this info is reputable new2stocks?
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
It's hard to say, I'm looking into it.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
So much for Rufas's claim that the trade halt, s-4 and 10K are strategic. Giving Shorty a day and a half to prepare, and the longs another day and a half to sweat is not very stategic.

Might as well tell them the exact time of day to flip this slip.

TB
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Does the 10k include both fhal and cvsu's financials?

Yes, per the 8K


As a result of the agreement noted in Item 1.01, the Company has concluded that it is the primary beneficiary of Conversion Solutions, Inc. as defined by FIN 46(R) and, therefore, will consolidate The FrontHaul Group, Inc and Conversion Solutions, Inc. financial results at the filing of the Company's Fourth quarter June 30, 2006 10KSB of fiscal 2005.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Well, all I find to support that statement I posted before is another post quoting it....so I really don't think there is anything to it.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
So, this sounds like im gonna be up late AGAIN tonight posting nonsense in hopes that i feel drowsy enough to get some sleep! It goes on and on. grrr
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Well we've seen the audited financials for cvsu correct. Is anyone expecting much from the financials of fhal. I know we need to file them but is anyone really expecting anything from them. I for one am not I think when this thing goes it'll all be because of cvsu. IMO
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
Well we've seen the audited financials for cvsu correct. Is anyone expecting much from the financials of fhal. I know we need to file them but is anyone really expecting anything from them. I for one am not I think when this thing goes it'll all be because of cvsu. IMO

The way that I understand all of this is that FHAL's financials will be and NEED to be terrible...bankrupt...that is the only way that this "plan" to "reset the PPS" will work...
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
With yesteray's PR, we know it's about to come to us soon...so I'm gonna take a little break from watching this and just wait and hold. I suggest many do the same. You might be able to flip a few more times and make some small gains, but we all know what's coming, and you don't want to be out of the stock when it halts. I will patiently await what's soon to come.

IMO, even if this isn't $15 post merger, it will AT LEAST be a multiple bagger.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Way to go Rufus! I'm telling you, this man shoots pool ... and, he is not just lookin one shot ahead! This has all been very well planned!!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I know CVSU financials, but I do not see them detailed in a document filed with the SEC. Not to mention I definitely do not see them officially combined under Fronthaul yet... ...filed with the SEC.

I can say I have a billion dollars and you should buy all of my shares cause they are valuable. If you believe me then you are at fault for believing me. Until I file my income with the government and show to the world my shares are infact valuable I have broken no laws by making promises.

It is a matter of making a few numbers on a website legitimate financials.

I am hungry... going tolunch without my 10K. [Frown]
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
There's more to it than that-some good DD has been done around here. I'm talking about verification of the Venezuelan bond, specifically, which can be verified on the web-the largest, most valuable asset.

I mean, earning >13% interest on 500 Mill? Now that's some assured revenue.


quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I know CVSU financials, but I do not see them detailed in a document filed with the SEC. Not to mention I definitely do not see them officially combined under Fronthaul yet... ...filed with the SEC.

I can say I have a billion dollars and you should buy all of my shares cause they are valuable. If you believe me then you are at fault for believing me. Until I file my income with the government and show to the world my shares are infact valuable I have broken no laws by making promises.

It is a matter of making a few numbers on a website legitimate financials.

I am hungry... going tolunch without my 10K. [Frown]


 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL:
There's more to it than that-some good DD has been done around here. I'm talking about verification of the Venezuelan bond, specifically, which can be verified on the web-the largest, most valuable asset.

I mean, earning >13% interest on 500 Mill? Now that's some assured revenue.


quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I know CVSU financials, but I do not see them detailed in a document filed with the SEC. Not to mention I definitely do not see them officially combined under Fronthaul yet... ...filed with the SEC.

I can say I have a billion dollars and you should buy all of my shares cause they are valuable. If you believe me then you are at fault for believing me. Until I file my income with the government and show to the world my shares are infact valuable I have broken no laws by making promises.

It is a matter of making a few numbers on a website legitimate financials.

I am hungry... going tolunch without my 10K. [Frown]


Werent you taking a break? [Smile]
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Here is an interesting read about CUSIP's that might make everyone think a little...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUSIP

It looks like they have already had an original offering (that being to CVSU to buy them out) and that might be where the NASDAQ might be having some problems. They might think that the CUSIP should be 361060 10 6 and not 361060 20 5. That might be the issue that is causing the delay. Just a thought.
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
Lol, I know!

I'm sure everyone here can attest to how addicting it is to pay attention to this stock. Anyway, I just meant I wont keep looking at FHAL on my ticker, constantly in joy then upset on this rollercoaster ride it's having. No use in worrying about small gains/losses if we COULD get something much bigger, but I guess nothing is for certain.


quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL:
There's more to it than that-some good DD has been done around here. I'm talking about verification of the Venezuelan bond, specifically, which can be verified on the web-the largest, most valuable asset.

I mean, earning >13% interest on 500 Mill? Now that's some assured revenue.


quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I know CVSU financials, but I do not see them detailed in a document filed with the SEC. Not to mention I definitely do not see them officially combined under Fronthaul yet... ...filed with the SEC.

I can say I have a billion dollars and you should buy all of my shares cause they are valuable. If you believe me then you are at fault for believing me. Until I file my income with the government and show to the world my shares are infact valuable I have broken no laws by making promises.

It is a matter of making a few numbers on a website legitimate financials.

I am hungry... going tolunch without my 10K. [Frown]


Werent you taking a break? [Smile]

 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
HEY SCEPTOR, you never really told us HOW you got access to this information way ahead of time last night. Who are you, and where did you get this info from. And most importantly, what can you tells us NOW!?


quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
I have been approved to release this.

First off, they have been trying to resolve the cusip number for the post merged company. As it turned out if they used the cusip for fhal post merger it may have caused delays and problems for the current cvsu or fhal share holders.

So they have asked for and received a new cusip number and are simply awaiting the nasd to assign a new ticker symbol so that the merger can be finalized. It is supposed to be the first thing handled at nasd in the morning.

The biggest delay thus far has been dealing with standard and poors convincing them a new cusip was in all shareholders best interest. This would have already have been a done deal if not for them, and that has now been resolved. Thank you S&P

The new cusip will be:
CUSIP NUMBER: 35904V 10 4
ISIN NUMBER.: US35904V1044

The temporary ticker symbol will be fhal post merger, and will eventually be converted into their permanent symbol of 3 that are available. CVSI, or CVSO, or CVSL. That could happen as early as tomorrow, but is of no significance to us as it will be done electronically.

you will find Fronthauls "new cusip" status by going to http://www.cusip.com/ and check the scrolling text at the bottom of the browser itself (the browser, not the webpage).

Yes folks this is the real deal.


 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
That is alright Kitty, I am eating lunch by the puter. I doubt I will get too far away till I see the 10K.

TB
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
1238 SEC filings and nothing of any interest... except Loews Corp just put out their 10-Q. It could be a good time to buy with Hurricane season ramping up. They buy that plywood to cover the windows from somewhere...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Kitty, you dont have to explain addiction to me. I got into this on June 15th and have read articles upon articles upon articles since. Now im just here for the ride and hope i learn a little something along the way. Unless there is "new" news i just cant see myself digging any deeper!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
Someone at p a l talk said this

FYI- Problems with The Fronthaul Group’s new CUSIP number from Standard and Poors' CUSIP Bureau and the NASDAQ will result in a delay in the release of the 10K. Mr. Harris plans on releasing the 10K exactly 2 hours before the trading halt. This halt will occur two hour before EOD tomorrow.

Wouldn't it be great if the source for this info actually got word of this yesterday. Now that would be strategic. Which means it would be happening right about... Now!

... no, about... Now!

oh well... it was a thought. [Big Grin]
TB
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
Someone at p a l talk said this

FYI- Problems with The Fronthaul Group’s new CUSIP number from Standard and Poors' CUSIP Bureau and the NASDAQ will result in a delay in the release of the 10K. Mr. Harris plans on releasing the 10K exactly 2 hours before the trading halt. This halt will occur two hour before EOD tomorrow.

Wouldn't it be great if the source for this info actually got word of this yesterday. Now that would be strategic. Which means it would be happening right about... Now!

... no, about... Now!

oh well... it was a thought. [Big Grin]
TB

Ya know, i was thinking the same thing. It LOOKS like yesterdays news to me. A teaser after the bell would be fine with me.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
This has all been so exciting, I haven't even been watching my soaps!! lol
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
nothing exiting here...exiting is to get to where we are "supposed" to. trading arround a buck hasnt been exiting, its been the same for weeks -_-Zzzz
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I see ARCA finally moved off their $199 ask.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
OT: Ok I have been watching this SEC filing listing so long I think I just witnessed some fraud. Does anyone know if it is wrong for the Exec. VP, CFO, Treasurer, Vice-Chairman & COO of a company to buy shares at a low price and sell those shares at a much higher price in the same day? ULTI must have had a red letter day last week, because all the owners got rich.
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
Check out p i n k s h e e t s . c o m and pull up FHAL. There are 4 news reports for our company today alone. No 8K or 10K or K? Short report, buy ins , net report.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
What website are you on Tax?
 
Posted by 6digits on :
 
That was'nt sceptor, that was the Lone Ranger.JK
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
What website are you on Tax?

http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/default.aspx
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Thanks Tax!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
If you read my post on page 207 of this thread. I have given instructions on how to build a page that refreshes that web site every 30 seconds.

TB
 
Posted by 6digits on :
 
Tax, very cool. I'm using it right now and it's working right. THX
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
are they going to audit the financials??
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i thought 10k means audited
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Have some business to attend to, I'll read every post when I get back! [Big Grin]
Still LONG!
GLTA
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 6digits:
Tax, very cool. I'm using it right now and it's working right. THX

Good to hear, someday when I get more funds I plan on dedicating some real time to building real investment related tools. (Not like the SEC Filing watch page, much more robust.) I just think it is easier when you want information to have it in one place rather than scouring the planet for it.

Currently, though I am still working for the man. Atleast as of 2:15 PM CST. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
i thought 10k means audited

you are right, thought I was posting on slbj, been watching them both, have positions in both also... wrong board...
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Is everyone sleeping?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Might as well be... some guy came by and told us that nothing was happening till tomorrow at noon...

Oh wait that was you. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
wow! the price has barely moved in the last couple hours
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Oh I am sorry I heard from a guy who said this other guy had heard from his brothers friend's sister that nothing was happening till tomorrow at noon.

[Big Grin] TB
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Thanks for the sarcasm Tax.......
 
Posted by dog on :
 
And begin..... rush up to EOD
 
Posted by madmoney on :
 
AUTO = MM, just came on the ask at 10.67! I like the sound of that!!
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
we may hit 1.20 EOD
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
guess my 1.39 didnt make it. oh well, i was close. ish. [Razz]

~BB
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I love the little 200 share sells that get thrown in there - NOT.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Lookin' good at the close! Tick Tock! Somethin's gotta happen!
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Very nice close indeed!!
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
People wanted in overnight in case something happened. The wait kills.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
anyone have any tums?
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Oh I am sorry I heard from a guy who said this other guy had heard from his brothers friend's sister that nothing was happening till tomorrow at noon.

[Big Grin] TB

I missed the action day, had to work, but thanks to this update I feel satisfied that all is well! Keep up the good work Tax. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
not much to report after hours . . . only about 12,000 shares traded
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
In depth accurate reporting just like you would find on M N 1? [Big Grin]

With this board and my SEC Filings non-findings I should start my own Market New Website.

LOL

TB
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
GreenDay, Tax was being facetious.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i exited most of my shares today.. holding just a little in case things get interesting.. i hate the day before the reckoning.. got finals too.. =\
good luck to us all.. either way, i won't be losing anything.. and everything to gain =)
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
new2stock I was only poking fun. Lately we have had a storm of posters on this thread with some sort of devine intervention. Comming in here with words of wisdom that come from mystical sources, yet shock us all when they happen to be found 100% true and factual.

I just wish I could find that majical lightening storm that seems to be striking everyone else...

Wow, I am on a role with the sarchasm tonight. My wife is gonna love me later.

TB
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
I understand Tax....that was my point in posting it....there is so much BS being said, somewhere in there has to be some truth.
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
can someone explain why the ask in my etrade extended hours is 199.00 X 4100???
I know the biders usually go far lower and the askers go quite high, but that just seems crazy. Is it just someone doing it just for kicks???
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah thats ARCA playing around...don't pay it any attention...doesn't really mean anything...
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
those MMs, funny fellers... with those high prices. hah.. NOT. Its just them being bored while they have they're 4oclock snack (pizza and ice cream)
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Anyone talk to Rufus today? I mean really talk to him....
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
2202 SEC Filing and none of any interest, except...

The fat cats on the board at Molson Coors Brewing Co. are getting fatter they just authorized reciept of 100% of their board compensation be made available in cash. But really that is not the funny part, what I like is that their ticker symbol is (TAP) [Smile]

TB
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Anyone talk to Rufus today? I mean really talk to him....

he said he would call me back after the plane landed... Where is Non-extradition anyway? [Eek!]

/jk I have not heard much on the Rufas front. [Big Grin]

TB
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I REALLY thought during my 45 minute drive home that i would find news when i got here. Is something broken? [Smile]
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
GreenDay, Tax was being facetious.

I know - me too - thought it was pretty funny - it's all good. [Wink]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
yeah something is broken alright...Rufy's damn fax machine...500mil in the damn bank and can't afford a new freakin fax machine...

have the people on IHub heard about this broken fax situation...their input in this matter sure would be entertaining...i mean valuable...

so was anyone able to track down if that comment about tomorrow at 12:00 is credible?
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
yeah something is broken alright...Rufy's damn fax machine...500mil in the damn bank and can't afford a new freakin fax machine...

have the people on IHub heard about this broken fax situation...their input in this matter sure would be entertaining...i mean valuable...

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
2592 SEC Filing and none of any interest, except...

The Republic of Turkey just file an 18-KA. (What ever that is.) When did this country go public? And if so what others are out there? Can I short Iran? [Big Grin]

Enjoy the night I am not looking at this stuff anymore this evening it is making me goofy.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Dare I put this here from iHub:

Posted by: thumpermikeny
In reply to: None
Date:8/1/2006 5:30:03 PM
Post #of 25973

Here is some news!

Well more like rumor.
On the Hot Stock board
The same guy who called the exact cusip number before the pr last night says there is another poster who is "in the know" because they called that there would be a pr before midnight, said that the 10k will come out tomorrow at noon. the trading will stop at 2pm.
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
man how the he said she said rumours fly.

I said that based on when the guy called the pr coming out (~30 minutes before hand) that he may indeed be a credible source, I do not know him. I was unaware of a pr coming out, and was just told to look at cusip.com and I would find the info there.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I was weary about even putting it here... sorry if it upsets anyonyone...everything is rumor that is not connected to filed FACT. 10 K says it all.
I still think ALL IS GOOD.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
2592 SEC Filing and none of any interest, except...

The Republic of Turkey just file an 18-KA. (What ever that is.) When did this country go public? And if so what others are out there? Can I short Iran? [Big Grin]

Enjoy the night I am not looking at this stuff anymore this evening it is making me goofy.

you guys are gonna go blind behaving like this.... [Cool]
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
dont sweat it dog. I was just clarifying what I said
 
Posted by dog on :
 
How about we all tke a hiatus until at least 9 pm...stop pissing off your signiciant other, and for God sakes play with your kids!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Nothing to see here folks .. .just move along [Eek!]
Let the gawkers stay.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
significant other? kids?

i guess ill go play with my plants then... [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by dog:
How about we all tke a hiatus until at least 9 pm...stop pissing off your signiciant other, and for God sakes play with your kids!


 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
significant other? kids?

i guess ill go play with my plants then... [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by dog:
How about we all tke a hiatus until at least 9 pm...stop pissing off your signiciant other, and for God sakes play with your kids!


I kill plants but i have my dog! Way too friggin hot for a walk though. [Frown]
 
Posted by portman on :
 
I am just sitting here hopiong Rufus pays for my new pool. [Smile]

I won't cash it all out. Hell, if RUfus pulls this one off who knows what else he can do with the company.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I wont cash all out either, just enough to remove ALL debt and maybe fund a small getaway vacation someplace. Im curious whats to come as well so ill hold some sort of position afterwards.

Now, where is a good place to vacation this time of year? [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
not Florida! man, it's hot there right now! Sorry, Kitty!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
not Florida! man, it's hot there right now! Sorry, Kitty!

It's hot almost every where right now...but I nice cabin in the mountains....maybe wyoming...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, it was 96 or something crazy here in Michigan today as well. Im a prisoner in my air conditioned house!

I'll need new vacation plans. I had hoped to hit "Celebrate Brooklyn" specifically for Philipp Glass and The Kronos Quartet performing the score for Dracula but, alas, that was last weekend! I kinda forgot. I would have needed some pointers from BB anyway, this country boy would have had a heck of a time blending into the big city!! [Smile]
 
Posted by portman on :
 
I hear Costa Rica is nice. [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by portman:
I hear Costa Rica is nice. [Smile]

Hey yea, i think thats where James Monroe Capital (JMCP) has some projects kicking off soon. Use money from one stock venture to investigate another? Seems like it makes sense. Maybe spend a bit of time on the beaches as well. [Smile]

This dreaming stuff is fun.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
There is currently some "confident" discussion in Paltalk. Dont shoot the messenger......

They claim, halt in trading tomorrow. Then, trading under a different symbol in the same day. No comments about opening PPS or whether we will be NASDAQ or not immediately.

Guy doing the talking - New2market
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
And also, Bud750 in Paltalk apparently threatened the CVSU (via his lawyer calling Ben) folks with legal action from the sounds of it!! Apparently he holds a lot of shares or something and has brought his lawyer on board.

Again, this is just what im hearing right now

More....

Bud apparently was tired of the "promises" that werent being followed and threatened lawsuit. Ben told him that a lawsuit could hurt the company and promised that PR last night. If some jerkoff blows this because he couldnt wait a day or two more he is going to be verrrrrry hated by the local populace.

and even more.....

I was wrong, they dont hate him...they worship him. They are glad he put the heat on the company. Still makes me very uneasy however.

And more............

4:30 today Rufus told Bud to relay this info because he can no longer post or speak in paltalk. He asked if Bud still planned to sue, Bud told him he would give CVSU time. They said the stuff i wrote above and also that the 10k will come "later" tomorrow or early Thursday.

[ August 01, 2006, 20:52: Message edited by: CatiaEngineer ]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
2592 SEC Filing and none of any interest, except...

The Republic of Turkey just file an 18-KA. (What ever that is.) When did this country go public? And if so what others are out there? Can I short Iran? [Big Grin]

Enjoy the night I am not looking at this stuff anymore this evening it is making me goofy.

you guys are gonna go blind behaving like this.... [Cool]
Really Glass. This is ridiculous. No phone call or rumor is going to change anything. News will be reported when it happens. Calling Rufus 2700 times a day only fills his message box and does nothing to make anything happen.

If you are in this for the flip then you should have been out by the end of today. Why chance it. If you are holding through the conversion then nothing happening right now changes anything. If you're unsure then you really need to reassess your decision making process.

Stay in get out it doesn't matter just leave the management alone to either get it done or finish their packing. There's really no other way about this.

Good Luck
Get A good Night's Sleep

Wally
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
And also, Bud750 in Paltalk apparently threatened the CVSU (via his lawyer calling Ben) folks with legal action from the sounds of it!! Apparently he holds a lot of shares or something and has brought his lawyer on board.

Again, this is just what im hearing right now

More....

Bud apparently was tired of the "promises" that werent being followed and threatened lawsuit. Ben told him that a lawsuit could hurt the company and promised that PR last night. If some jerkoff blows this because he couldnt wait a day or two more he is going to be verrrrrry hated by the local populace.

and even more.....

I was wrong, they dont hate him...they worship him. They are glad he put the heat on the company. Still makes me very uneasy however.

And more............

4:30 today Rufus told Bud to relay this info because he can no longer post or speak in paltalk. He asked if Bud still planned to sue, Bud told him he would give CVSU time. They said the stuff i wrote above and also that the 10k will come "later" tomorrow or early Thursday.

Rufus is much nicer than I would have been. I would have told him to sue and if he wanted any further information to call my attorney. WTF was Ben threating to sue for? Them being a couples days off with the proposed completion date. He has no grounds at this point. Let me go find Ben.

This is childish. I want it now and if you don't give it to me now, I'll sue. He needs to grow up.

None of this diatribe was directed at the messenger. You're just fine Ciata. The key to Penny Stocks is PATIENCE and DISCIPLINE.

Good Luck

Wally
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
And also, Bud750 in Paltalk apparently threatened the CVSU (via his lawyer calling Ben) folks with legal action from the sounds of it!! Apparently he holds a lot of shares or something and has brought his lawyer on board.

Again, this is just what im hearing right now

More....

Bud apparently was tired of the "promises" that werent being followed and threatened lawsuit. Ben told him that a lawsuit could hurt the company and promised that PR last night. If some jerkoff blows this because he couldnt wait a day or two more he is going to be verrrrrry hated by the local populace.

and even more.....

I was wrong, they dont hate him...they worship him. They are glad he put the heat on the company. Still makes me very uneasy however.

And more............

4:30 today Rufus told Bud to relay this info because he can no longer post or speak in paltalk. He asked if Bud still planned to sue, Bud told him he would give CVSU time. They said the stuff i wrote above and also that the 10k will come "later" tomorrow or early Thursday.

Rufus is much nicer than I would have been. I would have told him to sue and if he wanted any further information to call my attorney. WTF was Ben threating to sue for? Them being a couples days off with the proposed completion date. He has no grounds at this point. Let me go find Ben.

This is childish. I want it now and if you don't give it to me now, I'll sue. He needs to grow up.

None of this diatribe was directed at the messenger. You're just fine Ciata. The key to Penny Stocks is PATIENCE and DISCIPLINE.

Good Luck

Wally

Not Ben, Bud. I may have typo'd Ben...or maybe you did LOL. But anyway, it was Bud.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
thx for the rumor update CatiaEngineer!!! while it wont change anything it is good to know the 'word on the street' [Wink]

~BB
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
bunch of sue happy babies, rediculous, he can get out when he wants, this is pennystocks, he probably made a couple cents per share, why the whining, sounds like my brothers kids. "if you don't buy me candy, Im sueing.
he has free will to get out anytime, this r/m is no easy task, I am surprised how fast this is moving along.
I did my dd and am in on no one elses dd or words.
this company has money and everyone will profit.
glta
put a bottle in buds mouth.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
thx for the rumor update CatiaEngineer!!! while it wont change anything it is good to know the 'word on the street' [Wink]

~BB

No problem, can i get some sleep now? Someone take my shift please........

[Smile]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
wow !when the stock climbs we are in party mode then!!! all to s-h-i-t!this is gonna go!soon!and there will be a party here in calgary!!!!all party DISHES supplied!!it will be great. Leaving to go camping by thursday!! laptop will be with me!hope i have signal,but if i don't,i don't care cause Rufus will do what he says!!!can't believe that guy would sue,,that's really dumb!!!Georgia Aroespace can take him out maybe even nuke him!!lol!
 
Posted by 4bidon on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SYGY:
wow !when the stock climbs we are in party mode then!!! all to s-h-i-t!this is gonna go!soon!and there will be a party here in calgary!!!!all party DISHES supplied!!it will be great. Leaving to go camping by thursday!! laptop will be with me!hope i have signal,but if i don't,i don't care cause Rufus will do what he says!!!can't believe that guy would sue,,that's really dumb!!!Georgia Aroespace can take him out maybe even nuke him!!lol!

maybe give him a free ride on a surface to surface short range missile.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
And also, Bud750 in Paltalk apparently threatened the CVSU (via his lawyer calling Ben) folks with legal action from the sounds of it!! Apparently he holds a lot of shares or something and has brought his lawyer on board.

Again, this is just what im hearing right now

More....

Bud apparently was tired of the "promises" that werent being followed and threatened lawsuit. Ben told him that a lawsuit could hurt the company and promised that PR last night. If some jerkoff blows this because he couldnt wait a day or two more he is going to be verrrrrry hated by the local populace.

and even more.....

I was wrong, they dont hate him...they worship him. They are glad he put the heat on the company. Still makes me very uneasy however.

And more............

4:30 today Rufus told Bud to relay this info because he can no longer post or speak in paltalk. He asked if Bud still planned to sue, Bud told him he would give CVSU time. They said the stuff i wrote above and also that the 10k will come "later" tomorrow or early Thursday.

Rufus is much nicer than I would have been. I would have told him to sue and if he wanted any further information to call my attorney. WTF was Ben threating to sue for? Them being a couples days off with the proposed completion date. He has no grounds at this point. Let me go find Ben.

This is childish. I want it now and if you don't give it to me now, I'll sue. He needs to grow up.

None of this diatribe was directed at the messenger. You're just fine Ciata. The key to Penny Stocks is PATIENCE and DISCIPLINE.

Good Luck

Wally

Not Ben, Bud. I may have typo'd Ben...or maybe you did LOL. But anyway, it was Bud.
Probably my mistake OKAY BUD. Glad to see some others feel like I do. Whatever happens, happens. I'll either make some money or lose some money do it everyday playing the stocks. I hope I make some money.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
so when this it's going to hit the $15 dollars?

i said in the OTHER fhal baord 4 days ago i was going to shot my self today if the open PPS would be $15,( for not buying FRIDAY) "I guess i got lucky LOL"
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
so when this it's going to hit the $15 dollars?

i said in the OTHER fhal baord 4 days ago i was going to shot my self today if the open PPS would be $15,( for not buying FRIDAY) "I guess i got lucky LOL"

Yep you lived to see another day. In the immortal words of Clint Eastwood. "Do you feel Lucky? Well do you? Keep your head up.

Good Luck
Wally
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
You people cease to amaze me. We had a green day today. I'll wait and see what happens. Oh by the way we won't hit $15/share anytime soon.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Don't get it dig, "wait to see what happens ... won't hit $115 anytime soon ... What's up with that? Wallymac said it well: "Patience and discipline". Conjecture is not necessarily part of that!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
so should I be picking up a 100 shares for "kicks and giggles"?
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
You misunderstood me by anytime soon I meant within a few weeks. I'm holding.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
100 x100$ share in less than 2 years(maybe soon)!!!do the math!!!
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
Wow someone could write a book or movie on this stock already, lol. Still hanging in with my shares, although it was tempting to take a nice 2K profit today.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Paltalk exerpt:


JJSeabrook: Okay....we're about to change tickers
JJSeabrook: Filings are about to be made and we will halt, temporarily.
JJSeabrook: You will still be able to trade your FHAL
JJSeabrook: or whatever the symbol may be...
JJSeabrook: Your broker is going to shut you down, intially
JJSeabrook: BUT you can still trade your shares...although you may have to call your broker and phone in that order to do that.
JJSeabrook: I expect it will go down tomorrow, but don't know.
JJSeabrook: You will have to call your broker, initally, until the certs are received by your respective brokers.
JJSeabrook: It will BE like a margin account AT FIRST
JJSeabrook: YOU WILL STILL BE ABLE TO TRADE YOUR SHARES!
JJSeabrook: We open back up as XXXX the next day
JJSeabrook: Your accounts will not allow you to place sell orders on your shares in there until the certs are received by your broker
JJSeabrook: YOu will still be able to phone in your order, just like happened on LFWK
JJSeabrook: That's the most recent one that you should all be aware of
JJSeabrook: IF you sell shares, right after the symbol change..
JJSeabrook: YOU SELL THEM SHORT! WHY?
JJSeabrook: Because your broker will not have the cert yes.
JJSeabrook: yet
JJSeabrook: IF the company does not come through will ALL required filings, you will hold a short position in the company.
JJSeabrook: what will the stock open at?
JJSeabrook: After the ticker change?
JJSeabrook: I have no idea.
JJSeabrook: What I DO think, is that it will trade at a much better PPS that it is currently trading at.
JJSeabrook: BV is $7.21
JJSeabrook: BOOK VALUE...$7.21
JJSeabrook: I think we rock, provided we haven't somehow gotten crossways with the SEC
JJSeabrook: I worried about all the comments by Mr. Harris...but those ceased Thursday night.
JJSeabrook: I still think we're in the Right time, Right Place, and Right stock
JJSeabrook: At least the lotter ticket averages look GREAT to me.
JJSeabrook: lottery
JJSeabrook: It will become the newly formed MERGED company
JJSeabrook: No reason for it to trade for any less than it is right now
JJSeabrook: We see what it opens at, and we see what it trades at....
JJSeabrook: And we look at the filings when they come out...
JJSeabrook: AND we look at the PRs that we expect to come out
JJSeabrook: Will they hold it, or increase it above, $15 a share?
JJSeabrook: No idea
JJSeabrook: We haven't seen the filings and we haven't seen the PRS, which I expect we'll see
JJSeabrook: He said he had a runway of them that he could release 2 a day for a month
JJSeabrook: Does he, and what will they say? I don't know.
JJSeabrook: We will see what the market will bear...
JJSeabrook: and we ALL anticipate the filings, AND PRS, that are to come
JJSeabrook: That's it...PLEASE UNDOT THE ROOM
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
ELVIS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING.

PLEASE UNDOT THE ROOM. [Razz]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
so should I be picking up a 100 shares for "kicks and giggles"?

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
Here you go. This is why I have stayed long since I did my DD.

he left out the effect of adding (at a minimum) the $3.5 Billion dollars in investment money they have under contract. The assets for that alone will take the book value to ~$40.

Then you get to add the value of the JV's and subs into the assets as well. No clue how much more the book will go up from them. But Remember AISS has millions in ongoing contracts with various primes on military contracts and we are also expecting a 20 year contract to be announced as well.

Add to that the fact that the bond has been converted to cash and you are looking at a multi-billion dollar corporation with over $500 million dollars in liquid cash.

This is not a penny stock folks. Conversion Solutions is a multi-billion dollar corporation emerging onto the publicly traded market for the very first time. This is an IPO that will be enormous.

And then you get to add the short squeeze they built into the fhal shares. When the transfer agent adds up all the registered owners of fhal shares and says, oops we have more that 30 million shares that are short. The MM's will be willing to pay you enormous amounts for yours so they can cover. And they will be competing with the open market for them.

Hold $15? LOL $15 is going to be passed by and never seen again.

IMO.
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
So we need to make sure that our brokers have our certs before we trade when the symbol changes? Otherwise we will be short positions? How is that going to be helpful for us? And didn't he say that institutions would be buying at that price to keep it at $15? Anyone with a lot of knowledge on this, or any history of LFWK be able to shed some light on the situation? Or make some educated conjectures? This is bothering me now with the suspense.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
*gulp* well, thats an interesting opinion sceptor [Eek!]
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=FHAL&p=W&b=5&g=0&id=p24472462602
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Bah couldnt sleep. I knew i could count on ya'all being here!!
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
So can we buy say tomorrow morning, and not be worried about a short position?
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
The real question is why wait for lunch time, or anything in the afternoon. Just annouce that it will close at 10:00 am, and see the prices soar through the roof while the shorts pay anything to cover their losses. That would make it have some amazing premarket pressure, have the average person hold on and wait while they see their shares skyrocketing, and make everyone a bunch of money. And then just to be a kicker, close it at 9:45 to completely kill the shorts and show dominance with this deal.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
i had a chance to buy at .20 before this runup started, went to 1.58 > 2 days later.....still thinking about buying in the a.m.

will the 10k release alone trigger the run?
or other factors have to coincide...to put at 15.00++?

anyone?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
maybe he wants to watch the morning scramble when shorts realize they have less than 3 hours to cover...

and tempt the shareholders into selling at a *good* price or holding for what may be an *amazing* price.

what a rude west coast awakening LOL

~BB
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
BB, last month? i woulda said i'd seen everything...

now? i know different....

NOW!? i have seen everything... until the next one anyway LOL
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
it's not trading stocks. it's playing mind games!
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
even the big boards have been that way lately tho....

friggin take it up just to crash it again...

natural gas? spiked from 6 to 8 dollars yeterday for NO reason at all....

there's actually a surplus of it...

i think everybody is just losing it...
 
Posted by bmorestocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:

They claim, halt in trading tomorrow. Then, trading under a different symbol in the same day. No comments about opening PPS or whether we will be NASDAQ or not immediately.

Catia for the record a company can not be halted during a trading day. If it doesn't open up halted then you will have to wait till thrusday. I know everyone has pages and pasges of DD on this, but you have to understand that CVSU or what ever the ticker is has to do R/S to get to 15.00

There is no way you can do a reverse merger and set the price to any price you like. Either the old company (FHAL) moves its assets and share struture into (CVSU) which has to be 15.00 a share to make it work.

In the past we have seen this happen to MLON which is now PYCT. MLON did a reverse merger into PYCT which was 1,000% higher then the company it mergered with (MLON) So unless CVSU does a r/s no way any of us are gonna see 15.00 pr share.
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
supposedly they are merging into fhal which was going bankrupt. that they said was they reason the sec and irs allows them to revalue the company and it's share value.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
is that true? can't be halted during a trading day!!!???!!!???
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
bmore? you are liar...

Trading Halts and Delays

Securities exchanges, such as the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) and American Stock Exchange (Amex), as well as the Nasdaq Stock Market, have the authority to halt and delay trading in a security. A trading halt—which typically lasts less than an hour but can be longer—is called during the trading day to allow a company to announce important news or where there is a significant order imbalance between buyers and sellers in a security. A trading delay (or "delayed opening") is called if either of these situations occurs at the beginning of the trading day.


http://www.sec.gov/answers/tradinghalt.htm

this is getting old...

IP numbers are logged...

people have have no business posting stuff like this...

that still leaves other questions....

there are no guarantees, this is the stock market..
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
thx glassman i was just about to...
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
Fronthaul Group, Inc. (OTCBB: FHAL) through its subsidiaries, provides truck brokerage, logistics, and intermodal transportation services in the United States. It operates an Internet-based business-to-business information exchange, which provides a centralized database of freight load information accessible by wireless device or through the Internet. The company also operates as a motor carrier that moves its contracted shipper's loads with leased trucks and trailers. The Fronthaul Group was incorporated in June 2004. It was formerly known as The Furia Organization, Inc. and changed its name to Fronthaul Group, Inc. in April 2006. The company is based in Rockwall, Texas. With 62.49 million shares outstanding and an undisclosed short position, there is a failure to deliver in shares of FHAL.

http://www.**********/press/nakedshort/2006/08/PR_2006-08-01_on_3.htm
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
and with the chaos that is going to ensue, this part:

"or where there is a significant order imbalance between buyers and sellers in a security"

should meet the requirements of the halt just fine!

~BB
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
sad....

i expect this kind of thing on .000000XX stocks with a trillion share float...

this has a very LOW float... the shorts are tweakin' hard...

BUT?

some of you longs are a little, well, er uh, optimistic.... yeah, you are possibly a little too optimistic...

and rumors? that's all they are... read the filings....
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://w w w.b u y i n s .net/press/nakedshort/2006/08/PR_2006-08-01_on_3.htm
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
optimistic but also realistic. nuttin wrong with that [Smile]

g'nite glass, g'nite all!


~BB
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey did y'all miss me.(Probably NOT) Anyways, the sweetest women in pinkyland PM'd me today, asking if I was still in this. Yes I am! I told her that I haven't posted much because I don't want anyone buying on my DD or opinions. I don't want to see anyone lose money (IF) this doesn't pan out, but things are looking pretty good right now. I hope tomorrow goes great for all of us. See ya in the morning. -Cassity
 
Posted by bmorestocks on :
 
Out of all the stocks we have seen shorted in BB land how many were halted for a few hours? Remember when SSTY got halted when the SEC investiagted them? And if you are going to do a reverse merger there is no need to halt the stock even for 2 mintues.

As I said before the SEC or the IRS can not allow a company to change, nor set its own price unless its an IPO. So prepare of a r/s to take place in order for this 15.00 a share to take place. Take it from someone who has seen halts and reverse mergers more then alot of people here.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
hope you babes are in the party mood when this flies north!!lol!lol!
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
CEO has already stated NO R/S maybe F/S
 
Posted by bmorestocks on :
 
SYGY alot of CEO's say no R/S or F/S then they retract there statements in another PR. Nothing they say are 100% sure nor should we trust anything that comes from there mouth. I would love to see this hit 15.00 and imagine if it does. Do you honestly believe it will hold that price.

With FHAL's o/s being transferred into CVSU unless you have massive buying power coming in all the sells which will take place will force the stock to come down by a whole bunch. I am not a basher, but just thinking against the grain here.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bmorestocks:
SYGY alot of CEO's say no R/S or F/S then they retract there statements in another PR. Nothing they say are 100% sure nor should we trust anything that comes from there mouth. I would love to see this hit 15.00 and imagine if it does. Do you honestly believe it will hold that price.

With FHAL's o/s being transferred into CVSU unless you have massive buying power coming in all the sells which will take place will force the stock to come down by a whole bunch. I am not a basher, but just thinking against the grain here.

well, according to the CEO, the price would hold b/c they have institutions buying if it lowers.. dude, all of your points have been addressed.. read the posts first before you repeat them..
and of course, there are no guarantees, but just letting you know those concerns have been beaten to death.. we can only wait and see
 
Posted by bmorestocks on :
 
FHAL/CVSU would be the first stock to change it's PPS without doing a F/S or r/s And if they pull it off which I know they wont then expect alot of other companies to do the same. I wish everyone the best of luck, but don't expect to sell your FHAL shares at 15.00 Atleast not al of them =)
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bmorestocks:
FHAL/CVSU would be the first stock to change it's PPS without doing a F/S or r/s And if they pull it off which I know they wont then expect alot of other companies to do the same. I wish everyone the best of luck, but don't expect to sell your FHAL shares at 15.00 Atleast not al of them =)

you don't know crap.. you just strongly think it won't, but you don't know for sure, none of us here knows for sure.. and of course, most of us don't care if it doesn't reach $15, if it ever runs to $3, you'll see a lot of happy campers already.. especially me.. even if your statement proves to be true, it's nothing we didn't expect.. useless.. posts pissing me off, i'd rather be talking about the weather
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
Heres a question. With everyone being scared that no one will be buying at $15, and everyone will be selling at $15, how will be people be selling then? After all you need someone to buy your stock if youre trying to sell, and if youre trying to sell at $15, but no one wants it at $15, then wheres the market for it?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
well, supposedly we've been shorted A LOT! so MMs need to cover.. plus to maintain price, rufus says institutions buying..
but watevers.. for all i know we'll tank tomorrow.. but i've already made so much on this, i don't really care.. just hoping for the best
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Maybe this can catch you up a bit bmore.........

The Merger qualifies as a tax-free reorganization under Section 368 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended, meaning that as the Reorganized Holdings Corporation begins to trade it has an option to adjust the market (trading price) to reflect the new Reorganized Holdings Corporations audited financials as it reflects on the per share book value.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
thanks lostone... those posts irked me but i really didn't want to address him... you stated it quite nicely and i couldn't have done better:)

and catia... never been there but know some that have. I hear British Columbia is really nice... i would like to move there in the near future but i can only find few teleports (satellite not time travel or anything like that:) to work at. And the little research i did, seems a little difficult to become a resident/citizen
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
yea, that's good too, forgot about that.. we're all stressed.. especially me, got finals tomorrow and the next day, and i'm busy with stocks.. =\
 
Posted by bmorestocks on :
 
I mean most of you are investors so anyone who doesn't believe in what you believe in will get bashed. I understand that. I am 100% sure no matter what your DD tells you that this stock will not open up 15.00 for anyone who has FHAL shares to sell at that price. And for the person who said dont you need a Buyer to sell to. Public along with MM'S buy on the bid.

When MM'S cover they do it on the bid not the ask. People have it confused with when we "Short" a stock "meaning you are buying them on the bid and when yuo cover "you do it on the ask"

If you guys honestly believe you will see 15 dollars you are nuts and you need to get checked out. Anyway you guys and girls have a nice day. I will see everyone in the am.
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bmorestocks:
I mean most of you are investors so anyone who doesn't believe in what you believe in will get bashed. I understand that. I am 100% sure no matter what your DD tells you that this stock will not open up 15.00 for anyone who has FHAL shares to sell at that price. And for the person who said dont you need a Buyer to sell to. Public along with MM'S buy on the bid.

When MM'S cover they do it on the bid not the ask. People have it confused with when we "Short" a stock "meaning you are buying them on the bid and when yuo cover "you do it on the ask"

If you guys honestly believe you will see 15 dollars you are nuts and you need to get checked out. Anyway you guys and girls have a nice day. I will see everyone in the am.

So, lets say hypothetically the $15 thing happens, even if its all for 10 minutes. What will you say then?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bmorestocks:
Out of all the stocks we have seen shorted in BB land how many were halted for a few hours? Remember when SSTY got halted when the SEC investiagted them? And if you are going to do a reverse merger there is no need to halt the stock even for 2 mintues.

As I said before the SEC or the IRS can not allow a company to change, nor set its own price unless its an IPO. So prepare of a r/s to take place in order for this 15.00 a share to take place. Take it from someone who has seen halts and reverse mergers more then alot of people here.

Do your DD before spouting off. Or go back and play with Alex and his games. You do sound a lot like him.

The halt will not happen because of shorts. It has nothing to do with shorts and before you confuse people as why a stock can be halted I'll post from the OTCBB.

Trading Halts Codes
Code Description
H.10 Trading Halt - SEC Trading Suspension .
The Securities and Exchange Commission has suspended trading in the security until further notice .
H.11 Trading Halt - Regulatory Suspension/Cease Trade Order.
Trading is halted in conjunction with a foreign securities exchange or market for regulatory reasons.Security is dually listed or registered and a foreign regulatory authority or market halted security.
T.1 Trading Halt - News Pending
Trading is pending the release of material news. OTCBB issue is a deritive or component of a security which is listed on The Nasdaq Stock Market, U.S. exchange, or foreign market or exchange, and there is a trading halt on the underlying security.
T.2 Trading Halt - News Released
The news has begun the dissemination process over a major wire service.
T.3 Trading Halt - News and Resumption Times
The news has been fully disseminated over a major wire service. Two times will be displayed: (1) the time when market makers can enter quotations (2) the time the security will be released for trading.
Beginning Monday February 5, 2001, all trade halt and resumption times will be posted in HH:MM:SS format. This is a change to the current format of HH:MM:hundreths of a minute.
T.12 Trading Halt - Additional Information Requested by Nasdaq
Trading is halted pending receipt of additional information requested by Nasdaq.



http:// www.otcbb.com/news/tradehalt/haltcodes.stm

Beware of info that doesn't give a link to back it up.

GLTA
Wally

[ August 02, 2006, 01:38: Message edited by: wallymac ]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
SEC Charges Operator of Stock Picking Website with Secretly Profiting in Investment Scam
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2006-128
Washington, D.C., August 1, 2006 — The Securities and Exchange Commission today announced the filing of civil securities fraud charges against the operator of an Internet website who made more than $2.7 million in profits by secretly selling the stocks he recommended as “mega bonus buys” on his site, www.the*********.com (the ********* website).

The Commission’s complaint alleges that Nicholas A. Czuczko, age 34, of Beverly Hills, Calif., routinely recommended thinly-traded penny stocks on his website while he personally planned to sell the stock into the rising price spurred by the recommendation. Czuczko’s practice was to buy shares of the recommended stocks shortly before posting the selection on the ********* website. When unsuspecting Internet visitors bought the recommended stocks and drove up the price of the shares, Czuczko sold or “scalped” his holdings for substantial profits without disclosing his own sales on the ********* site. A screen shot of the ********* website from March 3, 2006, is attached to this release.

According to the Commission’s complaint, Czuczko funded an extensive Internet advertising campaign to drive traffic to the ********* website. Between mid-December 2005 and the end of March 2006, the Commission alleges, Czuczko paid approximately $1.15 million to Internet search companies and other web advertisers. Ads for the ********* site appeared on Google and Yahoo! in response to Internet searches for terms like “stocks” and “investment advice,” and on popular financial websites like Marketwatch.com, TheStreet.com, and The Wall Street Journal Online. Czuczko’s advertising campaign proved successful, and his stock picks reliably fueled trading and price increases in the recommended stocks.

Linda Chatman Thomsen, Director of the Commission’s Division of Enforcement, said, “Investors need to be wary of unsolicited stock recommendations they find on the Internet. As in this case, the website operator may have hidden motives in recommending stocks to the detriment of unsuspecting investors.”

Helane L. Morrison, District Administrator of the Commission’s San Francisco District Office, said, “The Commission is committed to stamping out these scalping schemes that prey on unsuspecting investors.”

In a related scheme, the Commission charges that Czuczko touted shares of his own company, Epic Media, Inc. Epic Media, based in Los Angeles, is a development stage company with plans to publish “lifestyle magazines” for men and women. Czuczko is Epic Media’s CEO and CFO, and chairman of the company’s board of directors, as well as its majority shareholder. The Commission alleges that in early December 2005 Czuczko recommended the purchase of Epic Media stock on a website that was the predecessor to the ********* site. After the price of Epic Media stock spiked, Czuczko sold his shares for a small profit. Czuczko did not publicly disclose those trades, among others, in stock ownership forms required to be filed with the Commission under federal securities laws.

The ********* website included a boilerplate disclaimer that the site’s unidentified officers and employees “may” trade in the recommended stocks. The truth, however, was that Czuczko always sold his shares as soon as his recommendation had its intended effect of increasing the price of the stock. The ********* website provided no warning to Internet visitors that the site’s operator intended—and in fact made it a regular practice—to sell the stocks at the same time that he posted buy recommendations on the site. By failing to disclose his intent to sell at the time when he made the recommendation, Czuczko was able to turn a quick profit at the expense of the investors who followed the site’s advice.

The Commission’s complaint, filed in federal district court in Los Angeles, seeks to enjoin Czuczko from future violations of the antifraud and ownership disclosure provisions of the federal securities laws. The Commission requests that the district court order Czuczko to disgorge his ill-gotten gains plus prejudgment interest, impose a civil monetary penalty, and bar him from participating in penny stock offerings and from serving as an officer or director of a publicly traded company.

The Commission acknowledges the assistance of NASD Market Regulation with its investigation.

For tips to avoid costly mistakes, the Commission encourages investors to read “Pump & Dump.con: Tips for Avoiding Stock Scams” on the Internet at http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/pump.htm.

For more information, contact:

Helane L. Morrison
District Administrator
(415) 705-2450

Tracy L. Davis
Branch Chief
(415) 705-2318

United States Securities and Exchange Commission
San Francisco District Office

Additional materials: Litigation Release No. LR-19787 and Complaint
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
[URL=http://www.the s t o c k s t e r .com]www.the s t o c k s t e r.com[/URL] (the S t o c k s t e r website).
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.careerbuilder.com/monk-e-mail/?mid=12235052
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bmorestocks:
I mean most of you are investors so anyone who doesn't believe in what you believe in will get bashed. I understand that. I am 100% sure no matter what your DD tells you that this stock will not open up 15.00 for anyone who has FHAL shares to sell at that price. And for the person who said dont you need a Buyer to sell to. Public along with MM'S buy on the bid.

When MM'S cover they do it on the bid not the ask. People have it confused with when we "Short" a stock "meaning you are buying them on the bid and when yuo cover "you do it on the ask"

If you guys honestly believe you will see 15 dollars you are nuts and you need to get checked out. Anyway you guys and girls have a nice day. I will see everyone in the am.

No, you are getting grief for rehashing something from 10 or 15 pages ago and assuming ppl are unaware of the risk.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Just an FYI on what I posted from platalk last night.

That is JJ's take on the situation. I only added it as additonal information for those who may have missed it.

There were several ppl there we have seen here providing mystically accurate info. [Smile]

The RUMOR seems to be we will halt trading sometime in the afternoon today.

As far as I am concerned what will be will be. I am most interested in when we can safely trade our shares. Seems TDA has some new rules on that.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Goooood morning! Here is my "look into the crystal ball" for today. I work just outside Detroit and there have been power outtages off and on lately due to the heat. I speculate that the symbol changes and POW i lose power. That would be about how my luck works out. [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, there are a few new posts from Rufus over on Ihub. It concerns me that they are timestamped 3:30am-ish, especially when in one post he says he has to be up early for a meeting LOL. If there is any interest the posts are.....

#26349
#26348
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Good Morning board [Smile]
Wouldn't miss today for the world ~
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Good morning all - should be a fun day.
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Portman, do you know what TDA's new rules are on this, or where to find them?

Thanks!
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
I posted this on HSM and thought to give you guys a courtesy paste. "You guys" is in the general nsense.

you guys simply have to get it out of your heads that Bud had anything to do with their releasing the pr. I was made aware of the cusip.com websight before the pr along with the mechanics of what has to happen to make it become a finished merger before the pr was released.

I would not have been told this stuff if they had no intention of pr'ing it. Bud had zero influence on them, as they already had the pr in motion to release it.

Bud is nothing more than an impatient penny trader that does not any self-discipline and he reacted exactly like a self absorbed person would. He claims it's all about him while he is nothing more than a bug that got hit on the windshield as the pr was driving past him.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Morning all... can't wait to to see the twist of the day.... getting hard to work and watch this stock so we closed the office. Not really... AC blew up...
 
Posted by liquidmetal on :
 
Looks like today is the day we Rufus will get his third strike....Get out while you can make something still... Go check out NECX if you want a winner
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
I posted this on HSM and thought to give you guys a courtesy paste. "You guys" is in the general nsense.

you guys simply have to get it out of your heads that Bud had anything to do with their releasing the pr. I was made aware of the cusip.com websight before the pr along with the mechanics of what has to happen to make it become a finished merger before the pr was released.

I would not have been told this stuff if they had no intention of pr'ing it. Bud had zero influence on them, as they already had the pr in motion to release it.

Bud is nothing more than an impatient penny trader that does not any self-discipline and he reacted exactly like a self absorbed person would. He claims it's all about him while he is nothing more than a bug that got hit on the windshield as the pr was driving past him.

Haha, a bug on the windshield.....

He is kind of been bawked at AND worshipped by people over at ihub from what ive seen. Bawked at by the folks that are patient and worshipped by those who arent. I personally hope he puts his lawyer back in his pocket.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Bosses get to stay though... since the business isn't makin money... hope it's a good day for FHAL and the shareholders!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
It's cool sceptor.

milliam...I am told TDA wants the certs from the TA prior to letting you trade even electronically. It is said this is due to PIAM or PIAV...I forget which.

I have a 9a so I will miss the bell. I do plan to call TDA today but I am having a hard time finding time in my schedule. I likely will not be able to verify this prior to lunch.
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
that would be paiv.
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Whats the premarket L2's look like?
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
1.194 x 4 Bid

1.195 x 3 Ask
1.20 x 6
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bmorestocks:
I mean most of you are investors so anyone who doesn't believe in what you believe in will get bashed. I understand that. I am 100% sure no matter what your DD tells you that this stock will not open up 15.00 for anyone who has FHAL shares to sell at that price. And for the person who said dont you need a Buyer to sell to. Public along with MM'S buy on the bid.

When MM'S cover they do it on the bid not the ask. People have it confused with when we "Short" a stock "meaning you are buying them on the bid and when yuo cover "you do it on the ask"

If you guys honestly believe you will see 15 dollars you are nuts and you need to get checked out. Anyway you guys and girls have a nice day. I will see everyone in the am.

i didn't say you were bashing.. wat a jerk.. all i'm saying is that all those questions you have are all accounted for either by the company or the CEO.. there's no point repeating them, just read the earlier posts.. and i resent that claim about people believing the $15 bit are nuts.. as of right now, we only have doubts about it, but we do not have any evidence to support our doubts, but again, we do consider the possibility, so your preaching isn't anything new! But you know, maybe you are right about being "nuts", i mean, i think it's pretty nuts how people invest in pennies and subpennies anyway... including you jerk! unless you got something new to say, i would suggest you just watch like most of us..
 
Posted by dog on :
 
No news releases least night.. am I correct?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
No news releases least night.. am I correct?

Correct, nothing official only hearsay
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
morning!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
morning everyone. Let's hope the rumour is true. Also I think shakerzz is on this again so we might see a run up.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
haha... i love it when ppl come in and say stuff like iloverufus, liquidmetal, and bmore.... "don't feel confident about fhal, buy this..." "you guys are idiots for ever considering this will take place" even tho the CEO described how they can go about doing it and even was recorded on how they will do it. tsk tsk... and thanks again lostone for talking to that idiot. no one here said you were a basher... you just find it within your "best interest" to come in here and give us some tips that were talked about last week and as lostone stated "beaten to death" we all know the risks and many of us already made money on this when we got it in at .10-.30 and i'm a pretty firm believer that there wasn't many that were pumping this stock at all. probably one of the better threads for a stock on this site... then you 3 idiots have to come in and post spam and other idiotic posts... GLTA
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Good morning [Wink] sunshine today...and hot LOL
 
Posted by dog on :
 
ARCA not on the grid today? huh
 
Posted by dog on :
 
spoke too soon
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Looking like mm's playing games ... probably trying to get more shares!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Last night Malcolm Coffee registered 18,750 restricted shares through a form 144.

Not sure if anyone else saw that or not...not a big deal or anything...just putting it out there...
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
tank city
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I hate to say it but it's not looking to good right now.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
yep.. wat a take down.. but they can't fight the market forever
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'm not sure why you guys are so doomsday about this...it's been happening everyday...then it recovers...
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
ship may be turning ...
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
pretty good sweep to grab stop losses!!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
yes it does. So far I'm not really worried. It's just gut wrenching at times to see it do that.
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
the novernight news players exited, and the mm's took that to their advantage to drp the price. CRab is correct this happens everyday. There are a lot of daytraders playing this as well and it causes the fluctations to be amplified.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Yawn...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Bid is right on the ask ~ [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
it gets through 1.15 and 1.20 gets here quick...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Anyone feel like this is where we will be staying for a loooong time? Are we there yet?..LOL [Wink]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
it gets through 1.15 and 1.20 gets here quick...

I noticed that, also.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by luvforever:
Anyone feel like this is where we will be staying for a loooong time? Are we there yet?..LOL [Wink]

Not me, im trying to be optimistic about a halt in 2 hours. [Smile]
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
long time ? the last i remember was the CEO telling us something about drastic changes anywhere between the 28th and the first...uhhh...wtf happend? nothing i can really see
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Not good new out...

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Posted by lostone on :
 
it's old..
 
Posted by dog on :
 
To be expected... these guys been trading threats for the last 2 weeks. Amazing that some scofflaw fry cook can sit out of the country hurling spurious epithets and complaints about financial institutions that currently are in good standing... unlike the crazy reverend and his crystal
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
it's old..

Yea, it looks like someone is trying to "strategically" release some old news right at crunch time. IMO
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
SOB's...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
To be expected... these guys been trading threats for the last 2 weeks. Amazing that some scofflaw fry cook can sit out of the country hurling spurious epithets and complaints about financial institutions that currently are in good standing... unlike the crazy reverend and his crystal

"scofflaw" "hurling spurious epithets"

Good stuff Dog, i needed a giggle this morning. [Smile]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
A little bored with this drop... need [Roll Eyes] to pull out some 25$ words..
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Well old or not it looks like it did it's job. I hate international scofflaw fry cooks!
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
can someone asnwer me...didnt the ceo say there would be changes between the 28th and the 1st...where are the god damn changes ?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
someone went to a lot of trouble to lay out a lot of old DD as if it was new...

ironically it appears as we hit the short list? im holding.

~BB
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
it's old..

I know... but it is constantly being updated, and it came across in my news under my ticker for FHAL from Fidelity.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
scoundrels.. hope no one fell for that trick..
 
Posted by dog on :
 
just a shake still the same stock til the 10k
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
that post has been posted huge on all the boards!!!seem's like shorty's were attacking real hard !!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
There may be a few more people asking for that affidavit package from Rufus and his lawyers when this is thru...
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
I heard Rufus was up late last night watching "Get Shorty" over and over...
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
good sign that pps is sticking, people are holding.
~BB
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
yea, it's holding.. so most are confident..
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
I heard Rufus was up late last night watching "Get Shorty" over and over...

You sure? Because I spent all night watching the movie "Give me the ******* 10K!!!" [Mad] ever heard of it? It is a touching story about a boy his dog, who get tangled in this wild and crazy adventure. Written and directed by Donald Trump. [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Does this guy have to pay to get his drivle sent out on the wires? I sure hope he does. I would hate to think the news wires just pick up on crap like that. I sure hope Rufus makes him pay in the end.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
geez, ARCA has a big fat ask 1.02, trying to short more to bring it down?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I hope those paid bashers find out WHY they call it "THE POKEY!" LOL ~~
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
uh.. ARCA took down the ask.. but things are getting pretty weird on L2 .. these walls suddenly appear and drops.. and appear again.. it's really really weird.. looks like they're trying really really hard.. anyone confirm this?
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
I heard Rufus was up late last night watching "Get Shorty" over and over...

You sure? Because I spent all night watching the movie "Give me the ******* 10K!!!" [Mad] ever heard of it? It is a touching story about a boy his dog, who get tangled in this wild and crazy adventure. Written and directed by Donald Trump. [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
Yeah I've heard of that! Thought about seeing it myself soon. I hope he wasn't reading "reporting your company's financials to the SEC for dummies".
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Sorry... I am cranky this morning, and i am feeling a bit hung over. [Frown]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
uh.. ARCA took down the ask.. but things are getting pretty weird on L2 .. these walls suddenly appear and drops.. and appear again.. it's really really weird.. looks like they're trying really really hard.. anyone confirm this?

yeah i'm kinda keepin my mouth shut about the L2's...they're kinda wacky at the moment...up and down back and forth...lotsa indecision...well that or they just like to push colorful shiny buttons...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Sorry... I am cranky this morning, and i am feeling a bit hung over. [Frown]

Well I for one am glad to have you on board Tax ~
-hope you had one for all of us last night [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
Tax, you and I are in the same boat. Last night was rough - egad!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
im rested =)
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
i am down 3k this morn.. yeaaa
 
Posted by portman on :
 
BB, Day off to watch the show?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Took the wife out to watch a premier of the new Will Ferrel movie "Talladega Nights" last night then hit the bar afterwards. But I am definitely here and I got my eye on the Net.

666 Evil SEC filings this morning, but none of any interest... yet again.

Movie was hilarious by the the way. [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I slept a massive 3 hours last night but no drinking. Im saving that for whenever Rufus comes through. Im craving a strong one though so i hope its soon!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
I'll be taking The Wife to see it this weekend. Thanks for the info. It looked hilarious.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
someone just sent thru 75,000 shares at an average price of 1.097 . . . anyone else confirm that?
 
Posted by portman on :
 
MT I did not see it on my trend...I just turned on the last streamer.
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Yep - saw it.
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
hsm...

[QUOTE=Timmah]Have you guys noticed this is trading under cusip 35904V 10 4 today[/QUOTE]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I saw it ...Trade wen't thru at 10:36.07
 
Posted by portman on :
 
little itty bitty trades now. Unlike JMCP...lol.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
Liven, I'm not sure I understand what the transaction was though . . . my color indicator shows that it was a conditioned trade - not a trade at ask or bid.
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
Lets play hardball folks.

hsm...

anybody who is in fhal, please take 5-10 minutes to fill this out, i have provided most of the info to them, i gave links to ********** and our-street, u need to do the same, just type the website, then tell the problem, then give them that website showing that ourstreet has been convicted before and what not, just make it 2 paragraphs or so, mine is ling as hell, but make it kinda long with a little info

https://tts.sec.gov/acts-ics/do/complaint
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
Lets play hardball folks.

hsm...

anybody who is in fhal, please take 5-10 minutes to fill this out, i have provided most of the info to them, i gave links to ********** and our-street, u need to do the same, just type the website, then tell the problem, then give them that website showing that ourstreet has been convicted before and what not, just make it 2 paragraphs or so, mine is ling as hell, but make it kinda long with a little info

https://tts.sec.gov/acts-ics/do/complaint

Sweet ~
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Wow, like every other post on IHUB are basher posts again today. In my opinion this is great news!
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
nope shooting posters for TJX (probably for marshalls not tj max) at 1pm. guess i gotta go get ready :-\

i was hoping for earlier action!
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by portman:
BB, Day off to watch the show?


 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
This whole damn thing has got my teeth clinchen...

Chart could go either way, along way, and its all about that 10K.....If somthin isn't out on the wire TODAY....I fear .50 will show its ugly head in a flash.....Ole Rufas better get on the ball!!

Sorry!!
Just venting a thought..
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY ITS THE SECOND OF AUGUST AND WE STILL DIDNT GET ANY UPDATE ABOUT THE WHOLE 28th to the 1st "CHANGES"
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Maumee...It isn't about the price today. That's just the show.

It's all about tomorrow and the next few weeks.

Have a nice refreshing Long Island Iced Tea on me.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
Lets play hardball folks.

Hmmmm.. I don't think I am going to talk to the SEC about this stock until Rufas does.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
It's a merger Stock...and amazingingly pretty close to hitting the right dates.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
Lets play hardball folks.

Hmmmm.. I don't think I am going to talk to the SEC about this stock until Rufas does.
Yea, i was thinking the same thing. I'll hold a bit
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY ITS THE SECOND OF AUGUST AND WE STILL DIDNT GET ANY UPDATE ABOUT THE WHOLE 28th to the 1st "CHANGES"

Someone said yesterday they were working on CUSIP number issue with S&P...ready to roll when it's fixed. right everyone?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
that is what the PR stated...
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Also working a solution to the symbol issue with NASD. I believe that is the last piece.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
They are really working to milk the very most out the lowest possible price.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Wow, even my Mom is calling me about the o ur s t r eet fiasco. Im starting to take this very personally.
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
What do you guys use for Level II access? How much do you pay? Thanks.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
in the traders corner talk Rufus said it 'should' happen between the 28th and 1st.

it 'should' have happened by the 1st had the symbol issue not come up.

im gonna give him a day or so slack.

~BB
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY ITS THE SECOND OF AUGUST AND WE STILL DIDNT GET ANY UPDATE ABOUT THE WHOLE 28th to the 1st "CHANGES"

Stock, I know you're probably just trying to emphasize your concern (and that we should be concerned) about the 1st coming and going without news - but none of us have that answer.

A question I have for everyone is are we all sitting here today hoping that the rumor is true? I mean, if we don't see the rumor come to fruition at lunch time, does everyone see this thing tanking this afternoon?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Wow, even my Mom is calling me about the o ur s t r eet fiasco. Im starting to take this very personally.

all stocks fiasco?
 
Posted by Igor R on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doniboy:
What do you guys use for Level II access? How much do you pay? Thanks.

Etrade, free.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Wow, even my Mom is calling me about the o ur s t r eet fiasco. Im starting to take this very personally.

all stocks fiasco?
Was a typo due to severe anger at the moment. I fixed it. [Smile]
 
Posted by portman on :
 
M&A is hard...I have tolerance.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
oh, lol...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY ITS THE SECOND OF AUGUST AND WE STILL DIDNT GET ANY UPDATE ABOUT THE WHOLE 28th to the 1st "CHANGES"

Stock, I know you're probably just trying to emphasize your concern (and that we should be concerned) about the 1st coming and going without news - but none of us have that answer.

A question I have for everyone is are we all sitting here today hoping that the rumor is true? I mean, if we don't see the rumor come to fruition at lunch time, does everyone see this thing tanking this afternoon?

Let's keep in mind that the lunch time thing is a RUMOR, -not a PR. It may adjust because so many are talking about it, but "tank?" -I don't think so. JMO
 
Posted by portman on :
 
L2's TDA...apex so it is free.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY ITS THE SECOND OF AUGUST AND WE STILL DIDNT GET ANY UPDATE ABOUT THE WHOLE 28th to the 1st "CHANGES"

Stock, I know you're probably just trying to emphasize your concern (and that we should be concerned) about the 1st coming and going without news - but none of us have that answer.

A question I have for everyone is are we all sitting here today hoping that the rumor is true? I mean, if we don't see the rumor come to fruition at lunch time, does everyone see this thing tanking this afternoon?

I DO!!!!

can't speak for anyone else...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
It surprises me how so many traders seem to have ADD. I have 4 businesses... been through business audits that took weeks... you are using people and resources who have their own timelines. These professionals don't just stop everything at the S&P, NASDQ to settlle some small issue for a new company, it takes time. They had to sift through vast quantities of data for this 10k... I'm amazed that they are as far as they say they are. I saw the August 1st deadline as fictitious in the first place. I never thought they would make it. This is not like baking cookies... it's complicated and could take weeks... they are accomplishing this in a shorter period (I hope)... and I commend them for their efforts. Too bad people are not so patient.
My advice... take some Ritalin and wait for the 10k... the price of this stock is irrelevant to me.
If it tanks... it'll tank from a poor 10k faster than I'll be able to sell it. My loss.
 
Posted by esmda on :
 
Where do I get to see all Pink sheet and .OB stock in one website. I used to use otcbbtrader.com but now it is under construction.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I can't join a sell off on a rumor not being fulfulled, if it comes and goes I'll ride it out. Why? Because of what I've seen with CVSU and the possiblities. Rufus has kept his word with things that are in his control IMO.
If I had a 10k to look at I wouldn't even have the computer on, done deal then...

I'm hoping for the best, the market is in waiting, chart reflects that ~ nothing breaking, volume dropping.

That is suppose to happen in 30 minutes right?
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
It surprises me how so many traders seem to have ADD. I have 4 businesses... been through business audits that took weeks... you are using people and resources who have their own timelines. These professionals don't just stop everything at the S&P, NASDQ to settlle some small issue for a new company, it takes time. They had to sift through vast quantities of data for this 10k... I'm amazed that they are as far as they say they are. I saw the August 1st deadline as fictitious in the first place. I never thought they would make it. This is not like baking cookies... it's complicated and could take weeks... they are accomplishing this in a shorter period (I hope)... and I commend them for their efforts. Too bad people are not so patient.
My advice... take some Ritalin and wait for the 10k... the price of this stock is irrelevant to me.
If it tanks... it'll tank from a poor 10k faster than I'll be able to sell it. My loss.

if it takes time then DONT give a timeline...get it done when it gets done and shareholders will wait, but when you GIVE a timeline and you DONT get your work done by it, then you lose credibility, i dont care how busy you are, when you give numbers, back them up.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Sorry dog!!!! Can't do it.....

I WANT IT NOW!!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
It surprises me how so many traders seem to have ADD. I have 4 businesses... been through business audits that took weeks... you are using people and resources who have their own timelines. These professionals don't just stop everything at the S&P, NASDQ to settlle some small issue for a new company, it takes time. They had to sift through vast quantities of data for this 10k... I'm amazed that they are as far as they say they are. I saw the August 1st deadline as fictitious in the first place. I never thought they would make it. This is not like baking cookies... it's complicated and could take weeks... they are accomplishing this in a shorter period (I hope)... and I commend them for their efforts. Too bad people are not so patient.
My advice... take some Ritalin and wait for the 10k... the price of this stock is irrelevant to me.
If it tanks... it'll tank from a poor 10k faster than I'll be able to sell it. My loss.

if it takes time then DONT give a timeline...get it done when it gets done and shareholders will wait, but when you GIVE a timeline and you DONT get your work done by it, then you lose credibility, i dont care how busy you are, when you give numbers, back them up.
Is Rufus here? I dont see him, so just who are you yelling at with these DONT's and frustrated comments? Too much coffee this morning?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I agree Stock, but it's like any other project.. s*it happens... things we don't know about and he probably can't take the time to deliberate every detail and play-by-play of the merger... he should have said "first week of August", been a little more loose. Shame it is affecting the shareholders and helping out shorties...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Just waiting! Tick Toc
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
he should have said "first week of August", been a little more loose. Shame it is affecting the shareholders and helping out shorties...

Thats why I want it NOW!!!

thats all...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
29 min aaaand coooooooooooooooounting...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
It's painfully frustrating... anyone that tries to tell me that money does not have an innate emotional component should follow the boards and this stock... it's been a trip. Sure I could play the bounce as the price drives low, but I don't want to risk getting shut out at the halt... which could happen any second.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Wow..you are all getting a little bit irritable...
Has ANYONE known any "STOCK" that "comes through" with their "promises" at the time that they "promised"? I have a "cut off date"...if I don't see the audit and things moving the way they are suppose to...or "hoped" to...I'm out...but if you can't play the wait game...then sell..and rid yourself of the frustration...life is too short...IMO

GLTA!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
haha...everyone is commenting on the fact that everyone ELSE is tweaked a bit to far...all the while tweaked out of their minds, lol...

penny's are fun...

oh and the ask looks pretty thin at the moment...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I do have to believe that Rufas is pissed off enough at the shorts, that he will do everything in his power to put the squeeeeeeze on...

Get-er Dunnn RUFAS!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I don't have to say how much I want a 10K at this point. I have said it. My Ritalin Rx ran out on Friday, and even my drool is drooling.

by the way....

905 SEC filings today and none of any interest...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
gotta love ARCA with the .0000 ask...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Good point 10.. no one has ever followed or lived up to any game plan... private or public

"Be like water my friend" - Bruce Lee
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wow..you are all getting a little bit irritable..
GLTA!

Am not!!!! SHUT-UP!!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wow..you are all getting a little bit irritable..
GLTA!

Am not!!!! SHUT-UP!!!
LMAO ~
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Man that was close!... This was just filed...

FARRIER RESOURCES CORP 10QSB

I had to read it twice. I definitely have been watching these too long.
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
tikaty tik tok! the clock,s gonna move this without a dought!!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wow..you are all getting a little bit irritable..
GLTA!

Am not!!!! SHUT-UP!!!
Maumee...you're not "getting irritable"...you just plain ARE..ALWAYS! [Razz]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
tikaty tik tok! the clock,s gonna move this soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Like I said...

M&A is hard. Have tolerance for issues that arise. Rufas has been pretty good at keeping us updated at appropriate times of the issues and when he expects them to be resolved.

I am actually quite pleased with the communications here. I certainly want it all resolved today. But if it is not...I am here and so is my stock. If a buying opportunity presents itself I will be there provided accurate DD continues to uphold my current opinion.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
thanks for everyone's input . . . I was just trying to get a sense of where everyone's mind was at in regards to the rumor. I think everyone who commented had valid points. Thanks, again.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
tik tok wat....what are u waiting for ?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
What's a "dought"??
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Wow..you are all getting a little bit irritable...
Has ANYONE known any "STOCK" that "comes through" with their "promises" at the time that they "promised"? I have a "cut off date"...if I don't see the audit and things moving the way they are suppose to...or "hoped" to...I'm out...but if you can't play the wait game...then sell..and rid yourself of the frustration...life is too short...IMO

GLTA!

Irritable? Excuse me? Screw you 10!! J/K [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
Doni, to answer your question on L2s - I use Scottrade . . . free with 10 trades/month - otherwise, $10/mo.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Cat...MMMMWWWWUUUUAAAHH! [Wink]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
NOON TO 2 ,,this things run up or down on rumors!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Cat...MMMMWWWWUUUUAAAHH! [Wink]

Awww now i feel alllll better [Wink]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
well...nine minutes to confirm/deny one more rumor...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Will it tank without news? Maybe. But, one thing is for sure. If nothing "happens" at Noon we are gonna be overrun by bashers. Prepare yourselves mentally....which is a task for some of us today.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Cat...MMMMWWWWUUUUAAAHH! [Wink]

Awww now i feel alllll better [Wink]
get a room..
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I don't know which way I'm leaning. If somethings going to happen or not.
 
Posted by Rules on :
 
WTF??? I am now standing clear as http://www.our-street.com/featured.htm has had several SEC investigations started. If he kicks this one into high gear with the SEC and they do investigate, you can without a doubt bank that FHAL will tank as a PR will be released that the SEC is investigating. This is not about getting the stock lower, this is about self preservation of your money at this point.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
I don't expect anything in exactly 7 minutes. I'll be patient, heck I've waited this long, might as well see what happens. GLTA
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
market thinks positive, little price climb ~
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
how did rules get that URL in there?
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
I am going out to lunch, and hopefully there will be good news when I come back at 1:00. Don't do anything too crazy.
 
Posted by Rules on :
 
I am wondering how much money was spent by them to have their PR about FHAL being a scam???
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
how did rules get that URL in there?

LOL
I noticed that too.....

Hey Rules!!! How did you get tht URL in there???
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I hope I'm wrong but not feeling we'll see anything right now.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
"We are 100% self supported. Furthermore, effective May 1, 2003, employees and/or owners of Our-Street.com do not trade any stocks featured on this site. In fact employees and/or owners don't even short stocks period!"

from the disclaimer on that site...anyone see how they sidestepped saying they don't trade, lol?
 
Posted by Rules on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
how did rules get that URL in there?

LOL
I noticed that too.....

Hey Rules!!! How did you get tht URL in there???

All I did was copy and paste as it is an interesting read though a little on the negative side lol. [Razz]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rules:
I am wondering how much money was spent by them to have their PR about FHAL being a scam???

I am wondering how many shares they own(short) or are wanting to buy if this tanks....
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Look a 10k is coming eventually. Everything points to that. Until I hear that the whole thing fell thru... I'm not going to change my decision. We have all seen the DD. This is a great opportunity and will pay off big if they can sift thru the red tape and get this done. These guys subcontract for defense contracts for the United States of America, who is currently at war... do you think the Government is going to go out of its way to harm a company that provides for National security and jobs for Americans? They have connections both firm and loose with the people that need to get things done... relationships up the yin-yang.

Good propaganda or truth... somethings up... and I'm sure Rufus and the boys want to stay out of jail too... which could be a direct ticket with how public he has been.
I don't think he's mentally ill, as he would have to be if he purposely orchestrated a very public crime.

Whatever... stay in or get out... could be a good decision either way depending on your level of risk.
Good luck with that decision..
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Will it tank without news? Maybe. But, one thing is for sure. If nothing "happens" at Noon we are gonna be overrun by bashers. Prepare yourselves mentally....which is a task for some of us today.

I'm rooting for you, Catia.
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
Hey!!! It's 12:02 and I didn't turn into a pumpkin yet!! Deal must still be on. I'm hungry too Uncle...you kids have fun and don't get in trouble.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Will it tank without news? Maybe. But, one thing is for sure. If nothing "happens" at Noon we are gonna be overrun by bashers. Prepare yourselves mentally....which is a task for some of us today.

I'm rooting for you, Catia.
You are right on time!!
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
Full disclosure, i was really kidding when i said i was short.

It's fun to see you guys squirm sometimes.

The mood's a little better in here today, though, so i'll help lift it and admit i'm not really short this stock!

Disclaimer: If scottrade would have allowed it, i would have been short at $1.66!

Hey fellow short sellers, who do you guys use as your broker? I need a new one cuz I can't short anything below $5.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
Remember, noon 10k was only a rumor, do not base trading decisions on rumor. Even if it was submitted at noon, it likely will post in order received by SEC
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Thanks Absolut....another reason to not listen to anything you have to say. Honesty will get you most anywhere!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rome wasn't built in a day ~
I'm LONG ~
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Thanks Absolut....another reason to not listen to anything you have to say. Honesty will get you most anywhere!

Well, i don't really care if you want to listen to anything I have to say. I am not here to be a stock picker.

I just thought i'd be nice, even though I think this thing is a joke and will plummet pretty soon.

Hey, whatever keeps you going.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
so much for tanking.... Price to me isn't anything except what the market thinks... And I know alot of people aren't that good at trading [Smile] So even that I take with a LOAD of salt ~ Just thoughts...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
you know. Everytime there is a lull in the action everyone's going to wonder if this thing has been halted
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so...ya'll seen my namesake bringing havoc to the carribbean?

the path it's on now...takes it right to me...
 
Posted by JohnDoe on :
 
Halted???????? ticker in microcapfeed just stop ?????
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
nope...just a slow day...

there ya go...trades just came through...
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Seems to be holding up pretty well here. I was sure that we'd have a sell off without the halt at noon. Maybe for once, the rumors are driving the market!
 
Posted by bmorestocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
uh.. ARCA took down the ask.. but things are getting pretty weird on L2 .. these walls suddenly appear and drops.. and appear again.. it's really really weird.. looks like they're trying really really hard.. anyone confirm this?

Lesson #1

ARCA doesn't short. ARCA is a retail MM known as (ECN) ALONG with TRAC, DATA, TASL, NITE, UBSS,ETRD,HDSN,JEFF,DOMS, etc are regular MM's who can not short. Why not? Only because they don't have shares to short...

MM's who short thick stocks always cover on the bid. Meaning when the stock drops they cover for a win or even. This is nothing more then profit taking, and I hope it doesn't get ugly..Still believe in 15.00 per shares. Also an e-mail Blast from www. best pick r us .com all one word had an 10k e-mails blast on a 7.60 AMEX stock. HOD today 18.999 less then 24 hours after alert.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rufus posted on IHUB last night, said hold! -anyone see it?...
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Originally Posted by Teslafan
From this morning on ihub. No time frames that I can see.


I love it.

Hold tight, ship still on course.

Rufus Paul Harris
Conversion Solutions Group
125 TownPark Rd. Suite 300
Kennesaw, Georgia 30144
Phone: 770-420-8270
Fax: 404-393-9824
Harris*cvsu.us
www.cvsu.us


Sure thing, just storing emails, I have hundreds, per day.

How is the board? Still crazy with accusations

Rufus Paul Harris
Conversion Solutions Group
125 TownPark Rd. Suite 300
Kennesaw, Georgia 30144
Phone: 770-420-8270
Fax: 404-393-9824
Harris*cvsu.us
www.cvsu.us


That opportunity has passed!

Press will tell all over the next 2 days.

Rufus Paul Harris
Conversion Solutions Group
125 TownPark Rd. Suite 300
Kennesaw, Georgia 30144
Phone: 770-420-8270
Fax: 404-393-9824
Harris*cvsu.us
www.cvsu.us


I know, I warned everyone, things will heat up soon. LOL

Rufus Paul Harris
Conversion Solutions Group
125 TownPark Rd. Suite 300
Kennesaw, Georgia 30144
Phone: 770-420-8270
Fax: 404-393-9824
Harris*cvsu.us
www.cvsu.us

Yeah, It gets crazy in a bullish stock, most penny stock investors never get to taste a stock that increases over 300% weekly, something they can not understand. Most label it as “too good to be true” the rest cash in on it and then tell their friends to do the same.

GODSPEED and Goodnight need to be up early for a meeting, just always read the signs and PR’s.

Rufus Paul Harris
Conversion Solutions Group
125 TownPark Rd. Suite 300
Kennesaw, Georgia 30144
Phone: 770-420-8270
Fax: 404-393-9824
Harris*cvsu.us
www.cvsu.us


I will promise you that

Rufus Paul Harris
Conversion Solutions Group
125 TownPark Rd. Suite 300
Kennesaw, Georgia 30144
Phone: 770-420-8270
Fax: 404-393-9824
Harris*cvsu.us
www.cvsu.us
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Rufus posted on IHUB last night, said hold! -anyone see it?...

for the last time...a CEO doenst post in forums
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
"We are 100% self supported. Furthermore, effective May 1, 2003, employees and/or owners of Our-Street.com do not trade any stocks featured on this site. In fact employees and/or owners don't even short stocks period!"

from the disclaimer on that site...anyone see how they sidestepped saying they don't trade, lol?

well, that doesn't keep them from being paid to bash..
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
M N 1 talking about us too !
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Rufus posted on IHUB last night, said hold! -anyone see it?...

for the last time...a CEO doenst post in forums
YOU can't even spell!! LOL ~
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
im outta here! good luck for a good hump day! [Smile]
~BB
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
oh...that was only one little part...it really is comical to read the entire thing...

i just thought the fact that they said we do not trade any stocks on our page...then they say we don't even short stocks at all...

the wording was just interesting is all...

i think they're scum regardless...
 
Posted by bmorestocks on :
 
Lesson #2

Never get rapped up with bashers. Just sell buy low sell high. Get in and out and don't fall alive with this stock.. Thats why so many sold above 1.40 and are flipping it as often as possible. Most of you are worrying more about L2 and who is shorting instead of trying to catch bounce points and breakout levels.


In other words you are trading pennies the wrong way... I made 250k on That NASDAQ stock from WWW. best pick r us. com We are here to make money. Not waste our time posting things which doesn't make us pay more US taxes. =(
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
M N 1 talking about us too !

what are they speculating about today?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Rufus posted on IHUB last night, said hold! -anyone see it?...

I don't think so...

I kinda think that would be a good way to go to jail. Wouldn't it??
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Rufus posted on IHUB last night, said hold! -anyone see it?...

for the last time...a CEO doenst post in forums
Really? Is this based on fact or some personal opinion of yours? Call him yourself and ask him...im sure he will set yuo straight.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bmorestocks:
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
uh.. ARCA took down the ask.. but things are getting pretty weird on L2 .. these walls suddenly appear and drops.. and appear again.. it's really really weird.. looks like they're trying really really hard.. anyone confirm this?

Lesson #1

ARCA doesn't short. ARCA is a retail MM known as (ECN) ALONG with TRAC, DATA, TASL, NITE, UBSS,ETRD,HDSN,JEFF,DOMS, etc are regular MM's who can not short. Why not? Only because they don't have shares to short...

MM's who short thick stocks always cover on the bid. Meaning when the stock drops they cover for a win or even. This is nothing more then profit taking, and I hope it doesn't get ugly..Still believe in 15.00 per shares. Also an e-mail Blast from www. best pick r us .com all one word had an 10k e-mails blast on a 7.60 AMEX stock. HOD today 18.999 less then 24 hours after alert.

BMORE?


i am going to give you a lesson...

you are not correct...
last night? you were just lying? today? maybe you are just ignorant...

go to NITE 10Q dated 5/10/06

and go to page 4 look under Liabilities

see:
Securities sold, not yet purchased, at market value
$ 505,315,801
this number has grown every quarter for about two years now....

i'm not sure what your game is here? but you have two strikes....
 
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
 
Bmore's game here is to suck in newbies for momo to chew on - get lost.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
bmore... you are not welcomed here... and not because we think you are a basher. it is because you are loaded with BS information and trying to infect others with it. Go pass your agenda on ihub or something... moderator... can i get a moderator in here and do something about that idiot...?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Rufus posted on IHUB last night, said hold! -anyone see it?...

I don't think so...

I kinda think that would be a good way to go to jail. Wouldn't it??

Hey dude, right there it is... Rufus or not I don't know, didn't watch him write it, but it's there... FYI is all [Smile]
 
Posted by bmorestocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Livinonklendathu:
Bmore's game here is to suck in newbies for momo to chew on - get lost.

Hey look at my thread yesterday on the free for all section. I post it yesterday. Could of got 8.00+ for every share you had. Oh well play the FHAL scam.. Hope the r/s doesn't hurt to much.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
bmore....

you are momo playa..you don't know anything other than you are part of a group...

eventually? the group disintegrates...

or? they go to jail...

usually? they go to jail cuz somebody IN the group turns the others in when they realise they been burned..

i don't pick stock for anybody else any more...

BUT? you are full of chit...
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
He didn't say "Hold", go to Ihub and read it for yourselves. Maybe it was an imposter...who knows.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Rufus posted on IHUB last night, said hold! -anyone see it?...

I don't think so...

I kinda think that would be a good way to go to jail. Wouldn't it??

Hey dude, right there it is... Rufus or not I don't know, didn't watch him write it, but it's there... FYI is all [Smile]
I'm askin!!! Just seems to me that a CEO could get himself in the chit that way.... Makesd ya wonder if it was really him, Ya know what I mean,?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Rufus posted on IHUB last night, said hold! -anyone see it?...

I don't think so...

I kinda think that would be a good way to go to jail. Wouldn't it??

Hey dude, right there it is... Rufus or not I don't know, didn't watch him write it, but it's there... FYI is all [Smile]
I'm askin!!! Just seems to me that a CEO could get himself in the chit that way.... Makesd ya wonder if it was really him, Ya know what I mean,?
-know what ya mean... this has been a slippery ride.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
It's funny how nobody has anything bad to say about this stock, UNTIL the price goes down or isn't sky-rocketing. This is another reason I quit reading and posting, got sick of the B/S. Buy or Sell, do your own DD, take your own risks, and GLTY in what ever you decide. We will get news in my opinion, sooner or later. We will see!
 
Posted by bmorestocks on :
 
Cassity because people still pump and selling stock. Wrong time to do so. lol Thats the problem. Learn how to daytrade and make the most money from the stock. The chart shows you what you could of made if you played ita certain way. Instead of holding free shares as it drops or holding long. Hey do it your way. I know what works for the people who make 250k in a day in a AMEX stock. lol
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
bmore..why are you posting on this thread?
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
I would suggest you read purl gurl's bashing of fhal on ihub. She's really making herself look foolish. I cant believe you guys buy into her crap on here in the first place. Curious indeed.
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
bmore..why are you posting on this thread?

yes i am curious as well...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bmorestocks:
Cassity because people still pump and selling stock. Wrong time to do so. lol Thats the problem. Learn how to daytrade and make the most money from the stock. The chart shows you what you could of made if you played ita certain way. Instead of holding free shares as it drops or holding long. Hey do it your way. I know what works for the people who make 250k in a day in a AMEX stock. lol

CAA is so thinly traded that you guys will all be getting a visit to the inquisitors office...

that's a fools play... 83500 shares? LOL

not only that?

but half your "team" got slammed at 13$ to 18$ those guys are the ones that are gonna turn the rest of you in..

LOL
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
I would suggest you read purl gurl's bashing of fhal on ihub. She's really making herself look foolish. I cant believe you guys buy into her crap on here in the first place. Curious indeed.

We bought into her crap? Just because she originated here please dont make the association. Ive seen her position in lots of things and typically i try to just skim over it. Sorry to hear she has migrated over to your place! [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Hey "Bash more stocks" enough... you're starting to sound little a little nerd. -putting it lightly ~
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
You all have to understand that Bmore/Alex/Nomiugly/MOMO Stewart always looks for the hot play then seeds doubt and tries to lure people into his plays. Especially his warrant plays. Once you figure out who his is you know his game and don't play it.

He goes to all the real sites for posting and tries to attract people into his MOMO plays. Do your own DD and then make your decision by what you find.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
I am aware of this Wally...I hope everyone else is also...thank you.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
they are what they are.. but i certainly would like to make as much as they do.. lol =)
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinHood
Hey guys... Just got off the phone w/ Ben Stanley. I just simply said that I'm a concerned FHAL shareholder wondering if everything was going as planned regarding 10k and halt. His exact words were "affirmative, all will be settled by today and tomorrow". He seemed kind of aggitated so I thanked him for his time and he hung up. Take it fwiw.


He's probably only been asked the same thing many times since 8am - but look at the bright side, because of all the calls, emails etc... they probably want this thing over faster than we do hehehe
from hsm 1:25
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
ill-gotten gain isn't blessed IMO...
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
Whatever. Even if this cat did talk to Ben, what's Ben going to say? "I'll be honest with you this whole thing's a cluster**** and we have no idea what's going on. We're headed somewhere far far away"?

I'm growing weary of this stuff.

quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinHood
Hey guys... Just got off the phone w/ Ben Stanley. I just simply said that I'm a concerned FHAL shareholder wondering if everything was going as planned regarding 10k and halt. His exact words were "affirmative, all will be settled by today and tomorrow". He seemed kind of aggitated so I thanked him for his time and he hung up. Take it fwiw.


He's probably only been asked the same thing many times since 8am - but look at the bright side, because of all the calls, emails etc... they probably want this thing over faster than we do hehehe
from hsm 1:25


 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bmorestocks:
Cassity because people still pump and selling stock. Wrong time to do so. lol Thats the problem. Learn how to daytrade and make the most money from the stock. The chart shows you what you could of made if you played ita certain way. Instead of holding free shares as it drops or holding long. Hey do it your way. I know what works for the people who make 250k in a day in a AMEX stock. lol

Hey BMORE? Do you have Level II quotes? If so, do you use them to day trade to figure out when a security is going to reverse so you can go long or short?

If so, how do know when the market makers are going to change direction of the price by using level II?

Btw, for the rest of you here, love the way you type out "L2s" and "GAPS BEING FILLED!!" and all your other little euphemisms.

Why are u pluralizing level II quotes? "L2(s)"???
 
Posted by bmorestocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by bmorestocks:
Cassity because people still pump and selling stock. Wrong time to do so. lol Thats the problem. Learn how to daytrade and make the most money from the stock. The chart shows you what you could of made if you played ita certain way. Instead of holding free shares as it drops or holding long. Hey do it your way. I know what works for the people who make 250k in a day in a AMEX stock. lol

CAA is so thinly traded that you guys will all be getting a visit to the inquisitors office...

that's a fools play... 83500 shares? LOL

not only that?

but half your "team" got slammed at 13$ to 18$ those guys are the ones that are gonna turn the rest of you in..

LOL

Lesson # 4
Its called shorting.. You short before it drops and you cover your rear end. lol Something you can not do Mr BrokerGlassJaw
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
As of friday fhal acquired cvsu correct. Isn't there a time limit on when the 10k must be filed from that date I thought it was like 4 days. So that leaves tomorrow. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Posted by bmorestocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
You all have to understand that Bmore/Alex/Nomiugly/MOMO Stewart always looks for the hot play then seeds doubt and tries to lure people into his plays. Especially his warrant plays. Once you figure out who his is you know his game and don't play it.

He goes to all the real sites for posting and tries to attract people into his MOMO plays. Do your own DD and then make your decision by what you find.

GLTA
Wally

WALLYA and 10of13 I have seen you call people Momo for how many months now? How many bags are you guys holding. Hey 10fo13 didnt you lose money by trusting someone from this site? You lost alot as of a matter of fact. Why? Only because you believe in a perfect stranger. All you nut cases who believe this going to 15.00 you need to carry over the decimal 2 places to the left. TIMBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR [Eek!]
 
Posted by bmorestocks on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
As of friday fhal acquired cvsu correct. Isn't there a time limit on when the 10k must be filed from that date I thought it was like 4 days. So that leaves tomorrow. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

No they could of released it before hand... This is just a game of CHESS.. lol but your accounts will be down pretty soon once the CEO is done with his little shell game.. Until you see those numbers hold your breathe and even if they do come out to be true. No way because of a 10k CAN THEY ADJUST the pps.

What was the last stock to have done that? I don't care what DD you post from any SEC website. That will never happen here ever. That has never happened before and this wont be the first one.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bmorestocks:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
You all have to understand that Bmore/Alex/Nomiugly/MOMO Stewart always looks for the hot play then seeds doubt and tries to lure people into his plays. Especially his warrant plays. Once you figure out who his is you know his game and don't play it.

He goes to all the real sites for posting and tries to attract people into his MOMO plays. Do your own DD and then make your decision by what you find.

GLTA
Wally

WALLYA and 10of13 I have seen you call people Momo for how many months now? How many bags are you guys holding. Hey 10fo13 didnt you lose money by trusting someone from this site? You lost alot as of a matter of fact. Why? Only because you believe in a perfect stranger. All you nut cases who believe this going to 15.00 you need to carry over the decimal 2 places to the left. TIMBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR [Eek!]
It's too bad we catch you every time. How many of your alias's have been banned now from how many different sites? You're a joke. You even have to go as far as pretending to be other people. Sad very sad.


Wally
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Hey guys, is there someone we can contact for the nonsense we are subjected to in here? Its getting completely rude now. This isnt IHUB and id rather not see it get that way. People posting in here just to see what kind of response they will get is childish and there is simply no value added.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
It's up to the moderator of the board, not sure who that is! If this turns into IHUB, I won't be around, can't stand it!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bmorestocks:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
As of friday fhal acquired cvsu correct. Isn't there a time limit on when the 10k must be filed from that date I thought it was like 4 days. So that leaves tomorrow. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

No they could of released it before hand... This is just a game of CHESS.. lol but your accounts will be down pretty soon once the CEO is done with his little shell game.. Until you see those numbers hold your breathe and even if they do come out to be true. No way because of a 10k CAN THEY ADJUST the pps.

What was the last stock to have done that? I don't care what DD you post from any SEC website. That will never happen here ever. That has never happened before and this wont be the first one.

"No way because of a 10k CAN THEY ADJUST the pps."

Yea you have made this point already and I thought i directed you to section 368. Go read it ok? There is NO benefit to you being here. You, kind sir, are a loser.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I think that Tex, Dustoff, or maybe Peaser could all direct you or help you directly...Glassman could already be on it...Give um a shout...they don't bite....too hard ...(reguarding the moderator thing)
 
Posted by liquidmetal on :
 
What a suprise another day where Catia can't handle anyone elses opinion. I hope you haven't been planning your life over this money Catia. It is never going to happen. CEO's don't just tell people stock is going to increase 15 times its value. They don't take phone calls. They don't sit on message boards. Can you say Pyramid.....
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
From Wikipedia:
Reverse Takeover:
There are two ways for a privately-held company to go public: Through an initial public offering of stock (IPO), or via reverse takeover.
In a reverse takeover, shareholders of the private company purchase control of the public shell company and then merge it with the private company. The publicly traded corporation is called a "shell" since all that exists of the original company is its organizational structure. The private company shareholders receive a substantial majority of the shares of the public company and control of its board of directors. The transaction can be accomplished within weeks. If the shell is an SEC-registered company, the private company does not go through an expensive and time-consuming review with state and federal regulators because this process was completed beforehand with the public company.
The transaction involves the private and shell company exchanging information on each other, negotiating the merger terms, and signing a share exchange agreement. At the closing, the shell company issues a substantial majority of its shares and board control to the shareholders of the private company. The private company's shareholders pay for the shell company by contributing their shares in the private company to the shell company that they now control. This share exchange and change of control completes the reverse takeover, transforming the formerly privately-held company into a publicly-held company.

......
The advantages of public trading status include the possibility of commanding a higher price for a later offering of the company's securities. Going public through a reverse takeover allows a privately-held company to become publicly-held at a lesser cost, and with less stock dilution than through an initial public offering (IPO). While the process of going public and raising capital is combined in an IPO, in a reverse takeover, these two functions are separate. A company can go public without raising additional capital. Separating these two functions greatly simplifies the process.

In addition, a reverse takeover is less susceptible to market conditions. Conventional IPOs are risky for companies to undertake because the deal relies on market conditions, over which senior management has little control. If the market is off, the underwriter may pull the offering. The market also does not need to plunge wholesale. If a company in registration participates in an industry that's making unfavorable headlines, investors may shy away from the deal. In a reverse takeover, since the deal rests solely between those controlling the public and private companies, market conditions have little bearing on the situation.
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
What a suprise another day where Catia can't handle anyone elses opinion. I hope you haven't been planning your life over this money Catia. It is never going to happen. CEO's don't just tell people stock is going to increase 15 times its value. They don't take phone calls. They don't sit on message boards. Can you say Pyramid.....

Hey look another NEW poster to allstocks, what perfect timing to start telling people how to trade. Seems to be a lot of very concerned people showing up at this thread, that are NEW. HMMMMMMM, thanks for your concern. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
What a suprise another day where Catia can't handle anyone elses opinion. I hope you haven't been planning your life over this money Catia. It is never going to happen. CEO's don't just tell people stock is going to increase 15 times its value. They don't take phone calls. They don't sit on message boards. Can you say Pyramid.....

Opinion? There are shots being taken at people in here. Thats what im referring to. You can give your opinion all you want.

But, just curious...who pulled your string anyway? Did i direct something at you?

Im gonna go get some work done. You and Absolut can play around in here. Cheers!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bmorestocks:
FHAL gapper for sure!

LMAO...I may be slow...but not stupid...I finally figured it out...

What's wrong...didn't go the way you planned? All the more reason for me to hold the shares I have...LOL...GLTY! [Wink] Time will tell....
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
I think we need to do some house cleaning.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
LOL fryguy you aren't having fun?....
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
glassman,

I'm young, but man I think I'm going to need a new ticker when this is all over!!! I think too many people have been on the computer for too much here lately and it is effecting their judgement. And yes, this is way too much fun!!!!

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Most of us have made our decision a long time ago . . .it's all blah blah blah until a 10 k is released.
 
Posted by liquidmetal on :
 
No Catia I have been reading your posts for awhile now you just annoy me....
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Most of us have made our decision a long time ago . . .it's all blah blah blah until a 10 k is released.

"Bingo!"
Hey if lemonhead didn't shake us, some run at the mouth isn't going to ~ IMO
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
No Catia I have been reading your posts for awhile now you just annoy me....

Here's a mirror!

Wow...they are EVERYWHERE!
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
10of13

LOL
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
No Catia I have been reading your posts for awhile now you just annoy me....

Its working! [Smile]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i take time to read stuff about people that i dislike as well...who else does that to pass the time? hands everyone?
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I admit I do that as well...
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
Catia, I love the fact that as an engineer you had to turn your tagline into a formula [Smile]
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Liquid, there is a new thread set up for you so people can read you sh*T.
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
Something tells me he is not a real Engineer he says he is working but he must not be very busy if he is on the boards all day.....He probably never went to college

Gotta love the personal bashing now. He is a colleague of mine, and does a lot of work. By the way, do you even know what CATIA is used for, liquid?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
Catia, I love the fact that as an engineer you had to turn your tagline into a formula [Smile]

Yea, so far i havent been able to solve it though. Hopefully it all falls into place soon.
 
Posted by liquidmetal on :
 
I don't know you guys engineer robotic cats I guess who cares....
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
good luck all... ppl from the sconse, i hafta run to antigo to the DMV... hope i don't come back to any bad news... well besides ppl posting BS;)
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Seems the mods have stepped in...and some of the nasty posts are going away...thank you! keep it to the stock...and I guess all is OK...GLTA!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
What happened to that last post from liquid??? It is not there anymore.... Did the big eraser show up... I like that....

Hey liquid!!! Keep the personal attacks elswhere...

PUTZ
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
quote:
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
Something tells me he is not a real Engineer he says he is working but he must not be very busy if he is on the boards all day.....He probably never went to college

Gotta love the personal bashing now. He is a colleague of mine, and does a lot of work. By the way, do you even know what CATIA is used for, liquid?
I know, I know, pick me, pick me. LOL [Smile]
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
Liquid you need a time out.

Go to the children's chat room
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
NEW SYMBOL on cvsu website:
CSHC DBA: Conversion Solutions, Inc
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
cvsu has changed their name on the website. The time is near.

http://www.cvsu.us/
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
WWW.CVSU.US

to see the new ticker...
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Alright, instead of fighting go to www.cvsu.us and look on the front page. I think we may have our new ticker. CSHC it use to be CVSU. Maybe JMO
 
Posted by liquidmetal on :
 
Alright I give I apologize to the board. Catia and Rudy work with me. I had to mess with them ever since fhal they wont shut up about it. Get back to work guys...
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
its hot as hell where i am god damn it...im naked on my laptop feeling raped by Rufus...not good, not good at all
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
wow...four people at once...don't think anything is gonna get past us at this point...
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.

that will be their new name.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
CASH CAN INC (CSHC: OTC)

Huh? LOL
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
just saw that...i'm confused again...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
CASH CAN INC (CSHC: OTC)

Huh? LOL

-or Cash Cow ~ he he
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
Alright I give I apologize to the board. Catia and Rudy work with me. I had to mess with them ever since fhal they wont shut up about it. Get back to work guys...

What an idiot. The worst part is....the bonehead holds a position in fhal. I would also like to apologize to the board for working with a weenie that cant control himself. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
CASH CAN INC (CSHC: OTC)

Huh? LOL
[/QUOTE

thats what is commin up for me....CASH CAN>>>>
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
nice I am in a meeting here but just broke out to check in... CSHC is good news.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Great, i put all my money in a cash can LOL. I hope its going to a good cause!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by liquidmetal:
Alright I give I apologize to the board. Catia and Rudy work with me. I had to mess with them ever since fhal they wont shut up about it. Get back to work guys...

What an idiot. The worst part is....the bonehead holds a position in fhal. I would also like to apologize to the board for working with a weenie that cant control himself. [Roll Eyes]
May I suggest a small but effective Industrial Accident.....
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
from the ihub board

Check this....

CSHC was the old symbol for that company, it changed on Sept 24, 1999

CSHC changed to CSHCE

http://www.otcbb.com/news/1999/updates/diu092499.stm

would make sense, it hasn't been in use for awhile
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea, if i worked in industry the guy would be toast. I could somehow strategically plan out a paper cut!

I got this guy into FHAL to begin with and he slags me for it. He was just trying to be funny though, i hope he didnt get under too many peoples skin. [Smile]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
We close at 1.21 today

any takers??

If it tanks close will be around 1.01
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
CSHC must have been used for Cash Can a while back...and most of the brokers and places still have it in their "system"...but if you go to pink sheets...it says no such symbol...peeps will start bashing this now...flippin wonderful...

Get ready...things are comin' down and the clock still ticks...bashers still bash...and FHAL is still creepin' up!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Etrade seems to be the only place to shows "Cash Can" under that symbol. Im assuming no one else is seeing that?
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I see cash can but I according to the link I just put up that company changed it's symbol. This cshc hasn't been used by cash can in a while. If we could check the cusip number against it. That might tell us something
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Scottrade does has that lite up.... -interesting
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
Scottrade has Cash Can also
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Scottrade shows it as well ...
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
last filing for cash can were 1997
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Look at the website, they have changed everything to CSHC. People will never be satisfied. GLTA
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Look at the website, they have changed everything to CSHC. People will never be satisfied. GLTA

No, dont get me wrong....im quite happy. I was just taken off guard a bit when i checked the symbol in etrade.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
anyone think they will let the cat outta the bag yet today??
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Fidelity also shows it as cash can.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
CSHC? It shows up on ticker at .0001
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
anyone think they will let the cat outta the bag yet today??

I give up trying to guess. [Smile]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
I wish I could guess but it wouldn't be worth anything. It does IMO look like things might be falling into place. They never pr'd last friday when fhal acquired cvsu. Seems they're are trying to keep it low key. So far
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
chartwalker~ Do you need a rolaid? lol
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Behold! She rises!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
You can set your watch to this thing and it's EOD runs! ha ~
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
things are movin'!
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
Ton of buys going through right now.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee...anything on your chart suggesting how far this will move in the next few minutes?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
people must have noticed the symbol change...
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
10,

what symbol change?
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
I have not seen a symbol change either..
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
LOL, I wonder what would happen if one tried to buy some CSHC at 0.0001?
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ruthie:
I have not seen a symbol change either..

http://www.cvsu.us/
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Sorry..for the Conversion solutions...they have a new ticker symbol...cshc
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Thanks Squire38....
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
thanks
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Looks like "they" are holding it back...
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Squire38:
LOL, I wonder what would happen if one tried to buy some CSHC at 0.0001?

I just put in an order for it. Just for laughs
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Last chance to buy?
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
transaction for 50,000 shares went through after hours at an average price of 1.1133
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i see it as well...
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
just woke up from my nap.. hrmm.. i guess another day..
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:
Originally posted by Squire38:
LOL, I wonder what would happen if one tried to buy some CSHC at 0.0001?

I just put in an order for it. Just for laughs
It is all fun and games until that order fills at $15. [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Someone help me out here and help me make this clear in my head:
From the sec filing 8 k/a on July 11
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/757563/000129707706000046/fhaul8-kmergers igned.htm
I found this verbage:

"""Pursuant to the Merger Agreement, at the effective time of the Merger, each issued and outstanding share of common stock of Conversion Solutions, Inc. will be converted into the right to receive 1 shares of FHAL common stock, par value $0.001 per share (the "Exchange Ratio"), and each issued, outstanding, unexpired and unexercised CVSU stock option will be converted into FHAL stock options using the Exchange Ratio.:"""

What and Why is that par value/exchange ratio .001? and why then does this new symbol open at .0001 today??? why not at $15

I'm stressing - what am I missing?
 
Posted by BULListic on :
 
Green, don't stress, the Par Value means absolutely nothing to shareholders. It has no monetary value (much like that Pop Tart coupon you might have for 25 cents off and at the bottom it says it has a cash value of 1/20th of a cent). The Par Value is used in Accounting (a balance sheet item) and the company records on it's books a value that multiplies this Par Value times the current number of outstanding shares. It has no bearing on us investors.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Greenday...
"and why then does this new symbol open at .0001 today??? why not at $15"

this new symbol will not be "opened" for trading until a "market Maker" is assigned to that symbol...it isn't really being traded as of yet...

Hope "school" was fun???!!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Calm down GD what you missing is the definition of par value, additionally just because the ticker shows 0.0001 now does not in any way mean that it is opening there.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Darn I tried to buy in on CSHC.PK but Scottrade couldn't find a bid or ask. Thought it might be the geek play of a lifetime. Instantly go from .0001 to $15. Oh my.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by GreenDay on :
 
Thank you kindly Bull, 10, and Tax !! I knew you'd all clear me up. I feel much better!

10- today was registration, meet the teacher day! The kids (high school) all had a look of horror on their face to be up and out of bed and at school today. Fun stuff!
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
I just went into Scottrade, and I have .0001 across the board, with a date of 5/12/2006. FHAL is still basically as it was at close. Guessing that symbol is just old given the date, but odd the price was the same as that par value...FWIW
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I owe someone an appology... http://www.cusip.com/ does have a scrolling banner on the bottom of their home pace and that banner is of pertinent dynamic information. Litterally, "NEW CUSIP NUMBERS ASSIGNED TODAY".

I would have never have guessed that a professional site would do such a thing.

TB
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Haha, Cash can had some issues with paperwork apparently. Ok, i was bored and looked them up. Here is one of their SEC filings. So ironic its kinda funny.

Notification of inability to timely file Form 10-K 405, 10-K, 10-KSB 405, 10-KSB, 10-KT, or 10-KT405


People over at IHUB are now saying that CSHC is simply their "short name" and we shouldnt assume its the new symbol. This is a circus.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
I owe someone an appology... http://www.cusip.com/ does have a scrolling banner on the bottom of their home pace and that banner is of pertinent dynamic information. Litterally, "NEW CUSIP NUMBERS ASSIGNED TODAY".

I would have never have guessed that a professional site would do such a thing.

TB

Hmmmm, i see it now too. Im not sure you owe an apology because NO ONE seemed to be able to see it the day we all checked.
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
Conversion Solutions, Inc. Name Change To Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.
PR Newswire - August 02, 2006 17:37

KENNESAW, Ga., Aug 02, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL), a Delaware Corporation updates shareholders.

The BOD has executed a name change of the Corporation to "Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp." Delaware file Number 3924960.

The corporation will also continue to do business as (DBA) "Conversion Solutions, Inc." for a short transactional period.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Conversion Solutions, Inc. Name Change To Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.
PR Newswire - August 02, 2006 17:37

KENNESAW, Ga., Aug 02, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL), a Delaware Corporation updates shareholders.

The BOD has executed a name change of the Corporation to "Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp." Delaware file Number 3924960.

The corporation will also continue to do business as (DBA) "Conversion Solutions, Inc." for a short transactional period.

About Conversion Solutions, Inc.

CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at www.cvsu.us.

SOURCE Conversion Solutions, Inc.

Rufus Paul Harris of Conversion Solutions, Inc., +1-770-420-8270
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
"short transactional period"

was that intentional or should that have been transitional?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
"short transactional period"

was that intentional or should that have been transitional?

I can't decide...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
but more importantly does it even matter?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Nah...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Heya BB, when you finally get back in here i wanted to apologize for sending a premature email this afternoon!! The hype was that the symbol had changed but so far there is no real "proof" that it was the case. I was in a stoked state of mind and rattled off emails to you and 2 of my friends LOL. Anyway, im a doofus.

I would have PMd ya but its full. [Smile]

Ok, taking a break from the madness again............
 
Posted by 4Given on :
 
I am new to all of this and am curious, why do the name change? hope its a good thing!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
4given...to match the available symbol from NASD.
 
Posted by 4Given on :
 
Cool, thanks.
 
Posted by Absolut_Swing on :
 
I just bought 100,000 shares. I want to see 1.5 Million in my account by monday.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Thanks Absolut....another reason to not listen to anything you have to say. Honesty will get you most anywhere!

Well, i don't really care if you want to listen to anything I have to say. I am not here to be a stock picker.

I just thought i'd be nice, even though I think this thing is a joke and will plummet pretty soon.

Hey, whatever keeps you going.


 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Most of us have made our decision a long time ago . . .it's all blah blah blah until a 10 k is released.

Someone with some great wisdom...ty Dog.
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
Heya BB, when you finally get back in here i wanted to apologize for sending a premature email this afternoon!! The hype was that the symbol had changed but so far there is no real "proof" that it was the case. I was in a stoked state of mind and rattled off emails to you and 2 of my friends LOL. Anyway, im a doofus.

actually it will be the new ticker.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
Heya BB, when you finally get back in here i wanted to apologize for sending a premature email this afternoon!! The hype was that the symbol had changed but so far there is no real "proof" that it was the case. I was in a stoked state of mind and rattled off emails to you and 2 of my friends LOL. Anyway, im a doofus.

actually it will be the new ticker.

Ya think so? It does make sense, it appears that i would be the new symbol. I just felt bad for giving premature info is all. Im still a doofus. [Smile]
 
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
 
Nah, dont change your name to doofus yet-I still have that name reserved for someone else depending on how things pan out soon (I'll give you a hint-his first name does rhyme with doofus).

Hey Sceptor, how do you know for sure?


quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
Heya BB, when you finally get back in here i wanted to apologize for sending a premature email this afternoon!! The hype was that the symbol had changed but so far there is no real "proof" that it was the case. I was in a stoked state of mind and rattled off emails to you and 2 of my friends LOL. Anyway, im a doofus.

actually it will be the new ticker.

Ya think so? It does make sense, it appears that i would be the new symbol. I just felt bad for giving premature info is all. Im still a doofus. [Smile]

 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
Why is it that everyone questions me? I brought you the pr didnt I? [Smile]
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
You reasoned well catiaengineer. There would have been zero incentive to change their corporate name to match a stock symbol they had no intention of using.
 
Posted by 4Given on :
 
You are not a doofus. I am worse, I am a dummy. Learning all about the stock market, and right now, I am clueless.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4Given:
You are not a doofus. I am worse, I am a dummy. Learning all about the stock market, and right now, I am clueless.

Actually, FHAL is my first attempt at this whole stock trading thing. Its been a learning experience to say the very least. Go back and read some of this thread and it should blow your mind at least a little bit. [Smile]

Anyway, welcome to the boards and "probably" the most talked about penny stock of the year.
 
Posted by 4Given on :
 
I have been following it for a while, having lots of fun with it so far, found out about it before the talks of a merger. Just hope it goes large!
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
Honestly I'm having a real hard time holding the 10K shares I bought at .87 or so. This is just turning out the be the biggest circus stock I have ever seen on the pinks...

The more I think about it, the more the whole thing just seems ludicris. Boys, if we don't see something concrete tomorrow I'm out, this is just getting downright silly !
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Aww come on Uncle.. its just money. I bet if it goes back to $1.55 tomorrrow you'll stay at least one more day.
 
Posted by tyleemary on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
I just bought 100,000 shares. I want to see 1.5 Million in my account by monday.

Really ? You have 100 grand laying around ?

I would have dumped that into something alittle more secure trading in the 20 dollar range or something.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
Why is it that everyone questions me? I brought you the pr didnt I? [Smile]

You're new...you get questioned. Get used to it. It is not that ppl don't like you. They just need to begin to trust you more. [Smile]

Stick around this is one of the nicest places overall. Lots of good people.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
I just bought 100,000 shares. I want to see 1.5 Million in my account by monday.

Really ? You have 100 grand laying around ?

I would have dumped that into something alittle more secure trading in the 20 dollar range or something.

you are right LOL

at least you could put 2k in XKEM out of 100k lol


come on ABSOLUT no need to pumped that way LOL
 
Posted by 4Given on :
 
Like I said, I am a dummy so I am going to ask some questions for you smarties out there. Is this normal practice? What should we be expecting?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
It's normal paperwork to get done when it gets done....
 
Posted by 4Given on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
It's normal paperwork to get done when it gets done....

Thanks dog, when will we be trading under this symbol? In the morning?
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4Given:
Like I said, I am a dummy so I am going to ask some questions for you smarties out there. Is this normal practice? What should we be expecting?

yeha i got a question too...

When are we going to hit the $15 ????
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Conversion Solutions, Inc. Name Change To Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.
PR Newswire - August 02, 2006 17:37

KENNESAW, Ga., Aug 02, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL), a Delaware Corporation updates shareholders.

The BOD has executed a name change of the Corporation to "Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp." Delaware file Number 3924960.

The corporation will also continue to do business as (DBA) "Conversion Solutions, Inc." for a short transactional period.

About Conversion Solutions, Inc.

CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at www.cvsu.us.

SOURCE Conversion Solutions, Inc.

Rufus Paul Harris of Conversion Solutions, Inc., +1-770-420-8270

This PR is some what confusing...it states...

"Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL), a Delaware Corporation updates shareholders"

Almost sounds like FHAL is the one having the New ticker...not cvsu..some what confusing...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
10,

current ticker, for the company they took over...
 
Posted by 4Given on :
 
I admit, I am confused too. My husband says I should sell most of my positions as he turns and walks away.
 
Posted by STOCKMOVER on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4Given:
I admit, I am confused too. My husband says I should sell most of my positions as he turns and walks away.

Please do, I will purchase it from you and let you know how it turns out later.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Conversion Solutions, Inc. Name Change To Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp.
PR Newswire - August 02, 2006 17:37

KENNESAW, Ga., Aug 02, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL), a Delaware Corporation updates shareholders.

The BOD has executed a name change of the Corporation to "Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp." Delaware file Number 3924960.

The corporation will also continue to do business as (DBA) "Conversion Solutions, Inc." for a short transactional period.

About Conversion Solutions, Inc.

CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at www.cvsu.us.

SOURCE Conversion Solutions, Inc.

Rufus Paul Harris of Conversion Solutions, Inc., +1-770-420-8270

This PR is some what confusing...it states...

"Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL), a Delaware Corporation updates shareholders"

Almost sounds like FHAL is the one having the New ticker...not cvsu..some what confusing...

My understanding is that Conversion Solutions wasn't able to use the ticker symbol CVSU. Therefore a change had to be made. CSHC seems to be a symbol that is no longer being used it was changed to a different ticker symbol and MAY now be available. Going under that pretense Conversion Solutions did the name change with the state of Delaware in order for the Ticker symbol to match up with the name of the company.

This is all conjecture at this point but does make sense to a certain degree.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
10,

current ticker, for the company they took over...

Saying it like that...clearer!!! Thanks
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
10,

current ticker, for the company they took over...

I don't think they took over any company. It seems that the ticker symbol CSHC is longer used by the company that had it.

Wally
 
Posted by 4Given on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by STOCKMOVER:
quote:
Originally posted by 4Given:
I admit, I am confused too. My husband says I should sell most of my positions as he turns and walks away.

Please do, I will purchase it from you and let you know how it turns out later.
I didnt say I wanted to sell it, I would love to keep it, I said I was confused on this..... get my drift.........
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
10,

current ticker, for the company they took over...

I don't think they took over any company. It seems that the ticker symbol CSHC is longer used by the company that had it.

Wally

FHAL is "taking over" CVSU...which is now called CHSN...Is what Tex was trying to relay...I think...(my head hurts!.. [Confused] LOL!)

[ August 02, 2006, 21:02: Message edited by: 10of13 ]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
We have no idea... anyone who gives you a time unless released in press statement is pure speculation. A halt of FHAL has to happen first. After halt, restart under new symbol.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
FHAL is the "Shell" that was filled with CVSU which is now CSHC, but (I Believe) will trade under the Shell of FHAL until listing with the Naz as CSHC, hence the IPO... JMO

"What we all are waiting for [Smile]
-help???

[ August 02, 2006, 21:04: Message edited by: Chartwalker ]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
10,

current ticker, for the company they took over...

I don't think they took over any company. It seems that the ticker symbol CSHC is longer used by the company that had it.

Wally

Rufus et al took over the trading "shell" FHAL. The ticker is part of the value. Now that they have it, they can change it to whatever's available...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Now you guys are confusing me. Where did CHSN come from that's a new one to me.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
SO THAT IS GOOD OR BAD????
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4Given:
quote:
Originally posted by STOCKMOVER:
quote:
Originally posted by 4Given:
I admit, I am confused too. My husband says I should sell most of my positions as he turns and walks away.

Please do, I will purchase it from you and let you know how it turns out later.
I didnt say I wanted to sell it, I would love to keep it, I said I was confused on this..... get my drift.........
Dont take it personal 4given. We have all been attacked by ridiculous bashers in the recent days. Yo are new to the board so it kind of throws out a red flag. Do your own research and trust no one, thats about as blunt as i can put it. [Smile]

Oh yea, Good luck to you!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
opps I see it.. I read from 10of13's post where it has those letters.. It should be CSHC.
I should have caught that... sorry ~
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yes...I screwed up..I fixed it...CSHC
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Yes...I screwed up..I fixed it...CSHC

10 just trying to start NEW rumors [Smile]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Yes...I screwed up..I fixed it...CSHC

I did too
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
OH!!!!!!!! My head hurts. LOL. OK So we are talking about CSHC the former symbol for Cash Can INC.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
CSHC -- Cash Can, Inc
Com ($0.001)

Search for Dun & Bradstreet reports on this company.

Address:
Not Available

Phone: Not Available

Business Description: Not Available

State of Incorporation: Delaware

Country of Incorporation: USA

Officers: Not Available

Outstanding Shares: Not Available

Estimated Market Cap: Not Available

Current Capital Change:

Dividends:

Company Notes:
Last Known Address (8/98): 2319 Noriega, San Francisco, CA 94207

Transfer Agent:
Liberty Transfer Co., Huntington, NY 11743

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=CSHC
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
OH!!!!!!!! My head hurts. LOL. OK So we are talking about CSHC the former symbol for Cash Can INC.

GLTA
Wally

Yup, your money is stuffed into an old spittle can in Georgia labelled with a post it note that says "Cash can". Dont worry though, its being watched after by the good ole boys. [Smile]

*dont listen to my nonsense ive had a bit of vodka*
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
lol... What do you expect after this ride this stock has us on! ha ~ No "restful" sleep!

Dang azz is sore from sitting watching this thing!! LOL ~
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Corona's here tonight! [Smile]
 
Posted by P Rowds on :
 
ok... just making sure everyone gets it. as i understand it... FHAL is publicly traded. CVSU *privately* traded shares transferred into *publicly* traded FHAL shares. I believe there was an issue with *current* FHAL (old private cvsu holders) changing the ticker back to CVSU due to having it as its prior ticker. So now, the new possible symbol will be CSHC... IMO
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Corona's here tonight! [Smile]

Salute! I'm drinking one right now.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Corona's here tonight! [Smile]

Mmmmm, with lime? I'll trade ya, theres at least 5 shots left in this bottle!!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4Given:
quote:
Originally posted by STOCKMOVER:
quote:
Originally posted by 4Given:
I admit, I am confused too. My husband says I should sell most of my positions as he turns and walks away.

Please do, I will purchase it from you and let you know how it turns out later.
I didnt say I wanted to sell it, I would love to keep it, I said I was confused on this..... get my drift.........
4...like I said to others a page or two ago...you are new so ppl will be skeptical. I am new here to. Read the newbie section. there is lots there that is good. Listen to ppl like Tex, 10 and glassman. Know that no one is perfect and we are here to share DD and learn from each other.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
ok... just making sure everyone gets it. as i understand it... FHAL is publicly traded. CVSU *privately* traded shares transferred into *publicly* traded FHAL shares. I believe there was an issue with *current* FHAL (old private cvsu holders) changing the ticker back to CVSU due to having it as its prior ticker. So now, the new possible symbol will be CSHC... IMO

Who's on First?

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by P Rowds:
ok... just making sure everyone gets it. as i understand it... FHAL is publicly traded. CVSU *privately* traded shares transferred into *publicly* traded FHAL shares. I believe there was an issue with *current* FHAL (old private cvsu holders) changing the ticker back to CVSU due to having it as its prior ticker. So now, the new possible symbol will be CSHC... IMO

Yea, that sounds about right. And, it sounds complicated so this is why we are supposed to have patience and wait this thing out.

Which has led to vodka and coronas by the way........
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Hey what's up all my up-tight little friends. This is another very good sign that Rufus isn't a B/Ser. I really would like to get a look at the 10k and if it's as good as he said, I have 10 grand with FHAL written all over it. -Cassity
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Corona's here tonight! [Smile]

Mmmmm, with lime? I'll trade ya, theres at least 5 shots left in this bottle!!
I don't know. My bottle has Canadian Club in it. HMM SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH. Of course that's on the side with the Corona.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by portman on :
 
I did get to call TDA this evening to check on trading after the halt. The more they looked into it the more confused they got and they stated that. They were very nice and M&A will call me in the morning. I will post what I learn.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
Who's on First?

GLTA
Wally

What? [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
Hey what's up all my up-tight little friends. This is another very good sign that Rufus isn't a B/Ser. I really would like to get a look at the 10k and if it's as good as he said, I have 10 grand with FHAL written all over it. -Cassity

Bah, uptight....what do you know? [Smile]
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
WTF! Are we rich yet?!!! I don't care what the flippin' symbol needs to be...just get me to $15 sometime this century! I'll settle for a 10k for now, then I can wait some more! Cumon...throw me a bone Ruf...we deserve more than a name change that confuses the sheeite out of everybody! I had to get in THIS stock my first trip out???!!! I'm luvin' it and hatin' it all at once!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by portman:
I did get to call TDA this evening to check on trading after the halt. The more they looked into it the more confused they got and they stated that. They were very nice and M&A will call me in the morning. I will post what I learn.

I spoke to Scottrade and until it's posted on the OTCBB they won't be notified. It's the blind leading the blind and I'm gonna get blind drunk tonight and it has nothing to do with FAHL. Just feel like it.

GLTA
Wally

Soon I will step away from the computer because it's dangerous to drink too much and post at the same time.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by portman:
I did get to call TDA this evening to check on trading after the halt. The more they looked into it the more confused they got and they stated that. They were very nice and M&A will call me in the morning. I will post what I learn.

I spoke to Scottrade and until it's posted on the OTCBB they won't be notified. It's the blind leading the blind and I'm gonna get blind drunk tonight and it has nothing to do with FAHL. Just feel like it.

GLTA
Wally

Soon I will step away from the computer because it's dangerous to drink too much and post at the same time.

LMAO...coward!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by portman:
I did get to call TDA this evening to check on trading after the halt. The more they looked into it the more confused they got and they stated that. They were very nice and M&A will call me in the morning. I will post what I learn.

I spoke to Scottrade and until it's posted on the OTCBB they won't be notified. It's the blind leading the blind and I'm gonna get blind drunk tonight and it has nothing to do with FAHL. Just feel like it.

GLTA
Wally

Soon I will step away from the computer because it's dangerous to drink too much and post at the same time.

Hah! My thoughts exactly! You dont want to wake up tomorrow wondering who hacked your account and wrote such nonsense around 3am! I need a breathlalizer that tells me when to sign off.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by portman:
I did get to call TDA this evening to check on trading after the halt. The more they looked into it the more confused they got and they stated that. They were very nice and M&A will call me in the morning. I will post what I learn.

I spoke to Scottrade and until it's posted on the OTCBB they won't be notified. It's the blind leading the blind and I'm gonna get blind drunk tonight and it has nothing to do with FAHL. Just feel like it.

GLTA
Wally

Soon I will step away from the computer because it's dangerous to drink too much and post at the same time.

LMAO...coward!
ha ha he he...

10 of Dares....

btw, Wally? Had a buddy in Oaxaca, when we were tilting a few? He said sumpin that sounded like, "Chairs!"
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Ahhh Tex! You have been very quiet the past few days. I need some of that discipline!! Then again, over 11000 posts you have had some practice. [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Hmmmm, Bud is at it again. He has been somewhat reliable too. I hope HE isnt knee deep in vodka as well.

From IHUB.........

Posted by: bud750
In reply to: None Date:8/2/2006 9:31:49 PM
Post #of 27920

You heard it here first ...................

Listen to the news wires tommorw ..............

New company New stock price....shhhhhhhhh
That's a fact.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Ahhh Tex! You have been very quiet the past few days. I need some of that discipline!! Then again, over 11000 posts you have had some practice. [Smile]

ya...

and I post links, too [Razz]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Ahhh Tex! You have been very quiet the past few days. I need some of that discipline!! Then again, over 11000 posts you have had some practice. [Smile]

ya...

and I post links, too [Razz]

Eh? Did i mess something up? Are you referring to the IHUB post?

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12417872

voila!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
are we celebrating something here???

let me know what it is, so i can open one CORONA too LOL..
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
I think we scared 4given away. And THATS why we cant have company over folks!
 
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
 
FHAL+SLJB

MAKES ME LOTS OF MONEY SOON [Smile]
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Ahhh Tex! You have been very quiet the past few days. I need some of that discipline!! Then again, over 11000 posts you have had some practice. [Smile]

ya...

and I post links, too [Razz]

Eh? Did i mess something up? Are you referring to the IHUB post?

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12417872

voila!

seriously?

*always* good practice, esp on a "mixed thread" if you catch my drift. On threads where we all "know each other" (which is rare), we sometimes talk "short-hand".... but, ya, links always good...

thanks
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
let's hope bud is correct. He also posted his sell price at 50.00
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12418031
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea, i know.....im a cut and paste addict. Im trying to cut back.

Good advice tho. Thanks. [Smile]
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
I think Bud is Rufus...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Hell "I'm Rufus!!"" LOL!!!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Hell "I'm Rufus!!"" LOL!!!

No, I'm Rufus. After another Macallan I might even believe I am.
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
you all can call me RUFUS too LOL
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Hot ass day... ice cold Cakebread Chardonnay... are you guys having as much fun with this as I am? Entertaining way to gamble away 13k!
 
Posted by 4Given on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
I think we scared 4given away. And THATS why we cant have company over folks!

Im still here, sitting in the corner trying to figure this out through everybody's post, I too am having a drink.
my husband bought all these shares between .08 and.11, then he gave them to me and told me to have fun.
so here's to my first company "cheers" [Confused]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Hot ass day... ice cold Cakebread Chardonnay... are you guys having as much fun with this as I am? Entertaining way to gamble away 13k!

Haha, yea i think at one time i was at a 12k tally. Im quite sure id ever put 12k down on ANYTHING in vegas. Its odd hos this just seems easier
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4Given:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
I think we scared 4given away. And THATS why we cant have company over folks!

Im still here, sitting in the corner trying to figure this out through everybody's post, I too am having a drink.
my husband bought all these shares between .08 and.11, then he gave them to me and told me to have fun.
so here's to my first company "cheers" [Confused]

Hey thats when i got in too. I started around June 15 at .082 or something like that. It makes all of this easier when the money wasnt yours to begin with eh? [Smile]
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
i quit drinkin 4 years ago.... thats why i am here
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
let's hope bud is correct. He also posted his sell price at 50.00
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12418031

I think that Bud has been drinking too much CORONA, or maybe Bud Lite...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4Given:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
I think we scared 4given away. And THATS why we cant have company over folks!

Im still here, sitting in the corner trying to figure this out through everybody's post, I too am having a drink.
my husband bought all these shares between .08 and.11, then he gave them to me and told me to have fun.
so here's to my first company "cheers" [Confused]

Oh my..my advise to you is to Quit now...these pennies are very addicting...Run, Run far away....LOL
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
let's hope bud is correct. He also posted his sell price at 50.00
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12418031

I think that Bud has been drinking too much CORONA, or maybe Bud Lite...
I dont know 10. I just dont get that creepy bad vibe from him. You know, the one Absolut gives off every time he posts? I just dont get it from Bud.

I have a gift ya know. For instance, you.....are....a.....teacher!!

(some of this info i may have known prior to performing this trick)
 
Posted by Synastar on :
 
Been silently reading this and other threads the last few weeks since all this FHAL stuff started picking up. Just wanted to say that this board seems great and most of you folks seem like you know what you're talking about. I don't have nearly as much riding on Rufus as some of you, but I sure as hell hope we all make some cash! GLTA.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by 4Given:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
I think we scared 4given away. And THATS why we cant have company over folks!

Im still here, sitting in the corner trying to figure this out through everybody's post, I too am having a drink.
my husband bought all these shares between .08 and.11, then he gave them to me and told me to have fun.
so here's to my first company "cheers" [Confused]

Oh my..my advise to you is to Quit now...these pennies are very addicting...Run, Run far away....LOL
Shes sittin right in the middle of Rufus's flying circus and you are telling her to run. Good stuff. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Synastar:
Been silently reading this and other threads the last few weeks since all this FHAL stuff started picking up. Just wanted to say that this board seems great and most of you folks seem like you know what you're talking about. I don't have nearly as much riding on Rufus as some of you, but I sure as hell hope we all make some cash! GLTA.

It took a little night of drinking to bring out the shy ones!!

Welcome Synastar!
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
let's hope bud is correct. He also posted his sell price at 50.00
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12418031

I think that Bud has been drinking too much CORONA, or maybe Bud Lite...
Did Bud eat the worm. I trust Bud as much as I can't see him. Where is that obivous guessing guessing scoundrel.

LINKS, LINKS, I don't need no stinking LINKS. Yes I do and so does everybody else.

Chairs, TEX.

GLTA
Wally

Hey tonight is and has been fun.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
wally...you were suppose to back away from the 'puter!...LOL...

No Cat I'm not a teacher...GreenDay's the teacher...so your trick got "crossed"...LOL
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Grrrr, i thought you had the teacher conversation with her like you knew what she was going through headed back after the summer. I thought i was being clever and ive apparently lost the gift.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Welcome....Synastar
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Puter What puter. Is there a Puter in the house?

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Well, i thought i was too drunk to continue posting and then i poked into traders corner and found people WAY worse off than me. So i have a bit more in me i think
 
Posted by portman on :
 
G'night all. See you all in the morn.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Hmmm, nope...breathalizer going off. I think its time for me to step out. I wouldnt want to get a PUI this close to payday.

Good night!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
[passed out...] [Smile]
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Hmmm, nope...breathalizer going off. I think its time for me to step out. I wouldnt want to get a PUI this close to payday.

Good night!

LOL
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
PUI...

that's rich...
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
I had a Leinie, a couple of Young's Dirty Dick's Ales, some pinot grisio, and some white merlot. Mixing up a lot of alcohol at dinner, with everyone having something different to drink. And my drive home from dinner was amazing because of the massive amounts of heat lightning that I saw for all 45 minutes. Very entertaining.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
I had a Leinie, a couple of Young's Dirty Dick's Ales, some pinot grisio, and some white merlot. Mixing up a lot of alcohol at dinner, with everyone having something different to drink. And my drive home from dinner was amazing because of the massive amounts of heat lightning that I saw for all 45 minutes. Very entertaining.

Hope you were the passenger...not the driver...
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
We never "know each other."

Sometimes you may be deceived if you trust too much, but you will live in torment if you don't trust enough.....

It will come, just hold on.....................
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
I had a Leinie, a couple of Young's Dirty Dick's Ales, some pinot grisio, and some white merlot. Mixing up a lot of alcohol at dinner, with everyone having something different to drink. And my drive home from dinner was amazing because of the massive amounts of heat lightning that I saw for all 45 minutes. Very entertaining.

Hope you were the passenger...not the driver...
I was at my fiance's house for about 5 hours, more than enough time to process my alcohol. Thanks for the concern. I appreciate it.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by portman:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Hell "I'm Rufus!!"" LOL!!!

No, I'm Rufus. After another Macallan I might even believe I am.
oh, yah, that's some good stuff that Macallan - what age ya drinkin'?
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
I once got to try the Macallan 35. Some of the best Scotch I had ever tasted. If this whole deal comes through, I am gonna buy a couple bottles of it and have one hell of a party.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
I once got to try the Macallan 35. Some of the best Scotch I had ever tasted. If this whole deal comes through, I am gonna buy a couple bottles of it and have one hell of a party.

If that's what I think it is? Last time I saw it ( at a steakhouse), it was $400/shot...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
]

oh, yah, that's some good stuff that Macallan - what age ya drinkin'? [/QUOTE]

Get a napkin..i think that you are drooling on your keyboard...LOL
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
I once got to try the Macallan 35. Some of the best Scotch I had ever tasted. If this whole deal comes through, I am gonna buy a couple bottles of it and have one hell of a party.

If that's what I think it is? Last time I saw it ( at a steakhouse), it was $400/shot...
It,s $275 a bottle, but I'm enjoying my Saffire martini.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Y'all must have gotten in alot earlier than I... most of my shares in the .8's.... "in at .08 " .... my God the shares i would have! That's one helluva present.

Oh yes.. if this does any.. any i mean any better than my investment Macallan is a definite, plus a few more bottles for the cellar.
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
I got in at .14, sold off enough to cover, saw my mutual funds weren't doing so well, converted to cash and bought in more to up my cost to .54 a share, sold off a few more to get into WWEN, which now seems a long play on that, and am now sitting on 10K of shares. Gonna be a nice down payment on a house, a great honeymoon, some really good photos from the wedding, probably some jewelry for the fiance, a f'n huge big screen, some really nice celebratory alcohol, probably update my homebrewing equipment, and some play money to invest with. Not bad for my first stock ever to cut my teeth on. And God knows this is probably a once in a lifetime happening.


Oh, and I gotta throw a party for Catia for getting me into this stock.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Maumee...anything on your chart suggesting how far this will move in the next few minutes?

sorry 10!!

I had to bug out before EOD...

Just now tryin' to catch up on life..

What did i miss??
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
10, it really is some good stuff - however, my love actually lies with the vodka - I'm a very big fan of Ketel One.

here's some pricing for The Macallan from shoppers vineyard and other places - for those of you planning to buy some!

12 Year - $37
15 Year - $69
18 Year - $125
21 Year - $238
25 Year - $390

Other:
30 Year (I couldn't find a 35) - $650-$700

And from scotch whiskey . com for those with a finer taste

Macallan 1958 - $575
Macallan 1947 - $1135

some may ask what any of this has to do with fhal . . . my response would be - well, of course, it's the celebration drink discussion [Smile]
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
celebration huh, this better do good and if we DO celebrate, keep it on the low...underage drinking is expensive =X
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
I just bought 100,000 shares. I want to see 1.5 Million in my account by monday.

I'm just catchen up....I'm kinda thinkin your a

PUTZ!

i could be wrong...
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
sceptor
Member


Member Rated:
posted 08-02-2006 15:05
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
cvsu has changed their name on the website. The time is near.

http://www.cvsu.us/

At approximately this same time, the ticker symbol FHAL appearing on my brother's scottrade account turned reddish instead of its normal blue color and lasted for awhile ... now it's blue again. I wasn't at my computer to check it out.

When he told me about it I didn't think much of it until he told me it coincided with the timing of what mnvestor reported. He said it happened around 3:00. Anyone else notice this?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Maumee...anything on your chart suggesting how far this will move in the next few minutes?

sorry 10!!

I had to bug out before EOD...

Just now tryin' to catch up on life..

What did i miss??

A bunch of drunks and a new "ticker symbol" for CVSU...to CSHC
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
[qb] I just bought 100,000 shares. I want to see 1.5 Million in my account by monday.

good luck finding someone to buy them
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Swing:
I just bought 100,000 shares. I want to see 1.5 Million in my account by monday.

I'm just catchen up....I'm kinda thinkin your a

PUTZ!

i could be wrong...

No you are right!
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
my head is ready to explode HAAAA

WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR HERE?

I AM NOT SURE WHAT TO DO.. BUY MORE OR SELL??? TELL ME PLEASE
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
my head is ready to explode HAAAA

WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR HERE?

I AM NOT SURE WHAT TO DO.. BUY MORE OR SELL??? TELL ME PLEASE

According to everyone right now? Have a drink...LOL!

Seriously...no one can tell you what to do...things seem to be moving in the right direction...You have to decide for yourself...I am holding...right or wrong? Don't know yet...
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
my head is ready to explode HAAAA

WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR HERE?

I AM NOT SURE WHAT TO DO.. BUY MORE OR SELL??? TELL ME PLEASE

give me ur shares and i will send you a thank you card
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Gonna go jump in the pool and head to bed...
Hope this thing is over soon...

sleep well!
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
i been drinking so this one should be my last one LOL.


for you 10
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
my head is ready to explode HAAAA

WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR HERE?

I AM NOT SURE WHAT TO DO.. BUY MORE OR SELL??? TELL ME PLEASE

give me ur shares and i will send you a thank you card
ok give me your account number and i will transfer then to you LOL
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
my head is ready to explode HAAAA

WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR HERE?

I AM NOT SURE WHAT TO DO.. BUY MORE OR SELL??? TELL ME PLEASE

give me ur shares and i will send you a thank you card
ok give your account number and i will trafer then to you LOL
k ill pm u my cell phone so we can get this deal going on
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Gonna go jump in the pool and head to bed...
Hope this thing is over soon...

sleep well!

2 peice ?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
None! [Razz]
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
well tell the girl im comming in too. and if she is sleeping, thats fine, we can do just fine
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
i wanna go to the pool too....
take me 10
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
i wanna go to the pool too....
take me 10

no, u cant, i own 10's soul, what i say goes
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
well tell the girl im comming in too. and if she is sleeping, thats fine, we can do just fine

Hey 10 you know "stock" is short for stocker. HA
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cassity:
quote:
Originally posted by Stock:
well tell the girl im comming in too. and if she is sleeping, thats fine, we can do just fine

Hey 10 you know "stock" is short for stocker. HA
u mean sta lker ?
ur so funny...go play in traffic, this is mackin' time


i keed [Smile]
 
Posted by dollar13 on :
 
ok 10 i will see you in FL when you get rich with FHAL ..
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dollar13:
my head is ready to explode HAAAA

WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR HERE?

I AM NOT SURE WHAT TO DO.. BUY MORE OR SELL??? TELL ME PLEASE

Okay. Stop shouting my head hurts.


GLTA\
Wally
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
Heya BB, when you finally get back in here i wanted to apologize for sending a premature email this afternoon!!

ah, but many thx, at least someone gave me a clue! at least it wasnt 'run to a computer and sell!' [Wink]

~BB
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
interesting... i did think this was a possibility...

he always says "we" when he refers to FHAL, same as rufus does.

and his posts started out really illiterate, kinda intentional... then they became very insightful.

oh and he knows stuff before it happens [Wink]

just imo

~BB


I think Bud is Rufus... [/QUOTE]
 
Posted by 4Given on :
 
I can't wait to see what will happen tomorrow. It is way too exciting.
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 4Given:
I can't wait to see what will happen tomorrow. It is way too exciting.

probably a gap down, slow climb up, then close red...u know...the usual
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
oh my gosh i just caught up on fighting, making up and getting drunk...

for like 6 pages.

goodnite tipsy people, i guess i missed all the late day fun [Razz]

halt tomorrow?

~BB
 
Posted by 4Given on :
 
maybe...maybe not...you are not getting my positions that easily
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
nite all...glad I just read through all that, lol...

although...ya'll think it's bad here...go over to IHub-FHAL late night...it's like an episode of the x-files...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
That place scares me... [Eek!]
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Do ya'll know what Galveston and Bud Lite have in common? ...............They are both near water. heheh. TMAN...
 
Posted by VoodooNola on :
 
Betting Babe,

You seem very astute to the board,and I always look forward to your contributions.

Besides that, your are HOT! (Sorry if I stepped over any boundries there.)

Please give a newbie on this board a little slack, no P/D Bash here.

Holding strong and long for three weeks and GLTA!

[ August 03, 2006, 02:25: Message edited by: VoodooNola ]
 
Posted by SYGY on :
 
http://www.careerbuilder.com/monk-e-mail/?mid=12235052
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Good morning all.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Good Morning back at ya ~
Let's see what today brings! [Smile]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Good morning!!

Anyone else have a tummy ache this morning? Weird.......
 
Posted by MikeSC on :
 
Good morning. I'm sorry if this has been covered already, but does anyone know what the # of shares outstanding will be after the R/M?

Do they combine the shares of FHAL and CVSU to make up the OS?

Also, anyone have any idea how many shares there were of CVSU?

GLTA
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Mornin' all..and Mike SC...not sure about the number of shares for FHAL...it was claimed that a large portion was "bought up and put away"...and not overly sure of what the share sturcture will be after the merger...we were just told "no R/S"...
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
fhal ~55 million
cvsu ~45 million (and all fully restricted)

~111 million outstanding after the merger, with some portion of it bought and put into a trust fund of cvsu's, and all of cvsu's portion restricted. All of fhal's is free to trade including old fhal execs and 144'rs.

there is ~23 million in the float as of now, but that will change when they add up all the stock owners shares. Then the true short will be recorded. The SHO list has only shown what the MM's have declared against themselves that they are aware of. The "bought up" shares still look like market shares.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Thanks sceptor!
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
morning all [Big Grin]

have all the drunkens gotten a good night sleep? [Wink]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
fhal ~55 million
cvsu ~45 million (and all fully restricted)

~111 million outstanding after the merger, with some portion of it bought and put into a trust fund of cvsu's, and all of cvsu's portion restricted. All of fhal's is free to trade including old fhal execs and 144'rs.

there is ~23 million in the float as of now, but that will change when they add up all the stock owners shares. Then the true short will be recorded. The SHO list has only shown what the MM's have declared against themselves that they are aware of. The "bought up" shares still look like market shares.

Any idea when an accurate short count will be?...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
fhal ~55 million
cvsu ~45 million (and all fully restricted)

~111 million outstanding after the merger, with some portion of it bought and put into a trust fund of cvsu's, and all of cvsu's portion restricted. All of fhal's is free to trade including old fhal execs and 144'rs.

there is ~23 million in the float as of now, but that will change when they add up all the stock owners shares. Then the true short will be recorded. The SHO list has only shown what the MM's have declared against themselves that they are aware of. The "bought up" shares still look like market shares.

Any idea when an accurate short count will be?...
Or a 10k?... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
or a golden goose egg dropping in my lap?

no clue for anything other than what is known already the future is still undetermined.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
or a golden goose egg dropping in my lap?

no clue for anything other than what is known already the future is still undetermined.

ha ha ~~
Hey can't blame a guy for trying! [Smile]
Thanks for the info on the shares, have a great day!
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Good Morning .... Let's Rock!!!!!!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Morning everyone let's see what today brings.
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
What does the premarket look like right now?
 
Posted by djg7 on :
 
Bid 3 x 1.08

Ask 3 x 1.09
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
interesting post here from Ihub. I can't confirm that fhal used to come up in the search all I know as of now it doesn't appear.

Posted by: thumpermikeny
In reply to: None Date:8/3/2006 9:18:22 AM
Post #of 28322

just went to sec website and typed in fronthaul.
info used to come up but now it doesn't



http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12423925
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Good morning all,

If Bud is right... [Roll Eyes] ...flipping today could be dangerous.

Personally, I just want a 10K anything else would just be a plus.

TB
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
That is because to the SEC this is still FURIA.
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
My bad if you type in Furia organization it comes up with info, but not by the symbol
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
interesting post here from Ihub. I can't confirm that fhal used to come up in the search all I know as of now it doesn't appear.

Posted by: thumpermikeny
In reply to: None Date:8/3/2006 9:18:22 AM
Post #of 28322

just went to sec website and typed in fronthaul.
info used to come up but now it doesn't



http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12423925

Just gotta type FURIA ORGANIZATION instead...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Who's Bud??
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
king of the garden knomes...

i'm kidding...a poster on IHub that seems to mysteriously "know" things he shouldn't...
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Goood Morning... gotta run in 10 minutes so hope I don't miss much! Seems eveyone missed a lot last night on this board...ya know with the drinking! LOL [Wink] glte
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
if you search for fronthaul on the SEC site Furia comes up as the results.

good morning all [Smile] i see a pre-open 5000 * 1.09

~BB
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Good morning all! GLTY!
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
should have stayed in bed
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
can they take this down any easier?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
now let's try going the other way ~
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
sure seems like with the ticker change so close at hand that this thing wouldn't still be going down
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Can someone else watch this thing for me... good God halt this B.... Need to get some other work done!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Love my charts!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
shake time ~
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
HELLO EVERYONE!
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
The problem I've been seeing Chartwalker by just watching sells is that it seems we are getting lower highs and lower lows lately.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
Love my charts!! [Big Grin]

should be gettin close to the low now
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
they want to take out that support at $1.00 that we've enjoyed. Hang tight...
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
None! [Razz]

You are probably such a HOTTIE!!! Sure wish I was there [Wink] .

I grabbed 500 shares for some fun. Still 7,500 accordingly.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
With the war and the Dow and Naz opening on a gap down today this is kind of expected... But we always fid ourway back to a buck [Smile]

So the big news will be 10k and IPO! Not so much price, I'm not after the Golden eggs, I WANT THE GOOSE!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
By the way 718 SEC filings and none of any interest...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Well said Chart.... flippers always flip... investors hold.
Try to do a little of both but not today.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Well said Chart.... flippers always flip... investors hold.
Try to do a little of both but not today.

I'm with ya Dog ~ Sitting tight now, never know when the Ax is gonna fall now...
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Odd... Even IHUB is strangely quiet. And that never happens...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I've been caught every day I bought with the scenario of buying a little higher than I'd like, holding on peaks, missing the lows... all because I was afraid of getting closed out on a halt. Oh well, lost a few thousand with that, hopin the long haul makes up for it. My strategy is all out the window on this one... will it burn me? hehe...don't thinks so
 
Posted by MikeSC on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
fhal ~55 million
cvsu ~45 million (and all fully restricted)

~111 million outstanding after the merger, with some portion of it bought and put into a trust fund of cvsu's, and all of cvsu's portion restricted. All of fhal's is free to trade including old fhal execs and 144'rs.

there is ~23 million in the float as of now, but that will change when they add up all the stock owners shares. Then the true short will be recorded. The SHO list has only shown what the MM's have declared against themselves that they are aware of. The "bought up" shares still look like market shares.

Thanks 10of13 and Sceptor. I'm liking the way the numbers that have been thrown around look!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Everyone who was in on the "Scam" is trying to catch their international flights. [Big Grin] I think I heard they are going to Nonxtraditia... [Smile] /jk

TB
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Probably have all reserveed tables at some sleazy BBQ in Slovenia... g'luk wit dat
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Last night at 22:46:00 one JACK HURST filed a 144 for 187,500 shares of restricted stock. The registration date is 7/31/06 registered through Edward D. Jones & Co.

Since no one else seems to mention these I figured I'd let ya'll know...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rich get richer ~
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so far thats 476,250 restricted shares that have been released and AVAILABLE for sale in the last week...
 
Posted by portman on :
 
OK, I just spoke with the right ppl in TDA. I explained we were awaiting a 10K and S4. he indicated a ticker change will force them to wait to let us trade under the new symbol until they get the new certs arrive. He indicated it was overnight for NASD and NYSE and 1-3 for OTC/Pink.

Remember this is TDA only. He said it might happen faster but he can't tell me if anything is in the works.
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I am in a much better mood this morning... unlike the rest of you I did not get drunk last night and feel much better than yesterday when I was cranky. I also have a new out look on our late 10K.

Basically, the way I see it. Where they currently stand they are being smart by holding on to it. Last Friday when I desperately wanted to see the 10K this company was officially Fronthaul, and the Ticker was FHAL, and the SEC knew the company as Furia. I have been watching the SEC Filings for a few days now and have been watching for several different names on the filing with Furia as the primary. Not much has changed over the last few days but with the announcement of a CUSIP change and last nights BOD chosen name change I am thinking that holding off the 10K until they complete the change may be in their best interest. Not so much for us current investors, but for new investors and institutional investors. If they file now they will have to file a 10KSB as Furia, but if they complete the name conversion they can file as a clean slate with a 10KSB as Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation. To file as Furia would just add confusion and institutional investors do not like confusion, and with the next opportunity to have a 10KSB on the listing being next year it may be smart to wait a few more days (even though I hate every second of it.) and once the SEC recognizes them as Conversion Solutions Holding Corp. file it then.

If this is the case, at the very least he should communicate this strategy for all current share holders happy and start PRing the crud out of the financial findings of this stock to start building the stock value on actual numbers and concrete contracts.

This is all just my opinion, and I do not plan on taking my eyes off the SEC filings until I hear otherwise that the document is delayed... again.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
so far thats 476,250 restricted shares that have been released and AVAILABLE for sale in the last week...

didn't the filing (8k) state something to the effect that any restrcted shares and what not would not be "switched over"? They would need to sell them now or they would be worth nothing...after the merger...I think...I will go check...
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Thanks tax, sounds solid to me!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Wow..no volume ...no change... dead..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Taxback..the way that I am reading the 8k..and my understanding of how this has to work is that FHAL must file a "very bad", no money, no good...filing...that is the only way that "trading" can be stopped and reset the PPS...because after the audited financials show that there is no $...then FHAL and CVSU can "combine" and show the new higher value...and reset the PPS
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
shhhhhh. be vewy vewy quiet. rufus is thinking [Wink]

~BB
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
shhhhhh. be vewy vewy quiet. rufus is thinking [Wink]

~BB

LOL...
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Tax & 10, maybe both will happen together ...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Taxback..the way that I am reading the 8k..and my understanding of how this has to work is that FHAL must file a "very bad", no money, no good...filing...that is the only way that "trading" can be stopped and reset the PPS...because after the audited financials show that there is no $...then FHAL and CVSU can "combine" and show the new higher value...and reset the PPS

10 ..
Do you think that that "very bad" filing would cause a very bad shake before the halt??/

Reason being....I'm gettin a very strong feeling the charts want to bounce off the .53 area one more time...just an observation... Chartwalker!!...Do you see what I'm lookin at??
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Please don't take my above post as fact,,,,I'm just rippen into the charts a bit harder because I'm bored,,,, Sometimes it's good, sometimes LESS IS MORE!!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
If it does Maumee...I want more shares [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee...are you showing it for today? Or just "sometime"...

I don't see it "falling" because of the filing..even a bad filing..this is what EVERYONE is waiting for...

IMO... the audited financials..coming and then with in moments a PR announcing the completion of the merger...closing of trading...and IMO..people are going to be "rushin' to get in...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I hear ya, portman!!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
... -let's not have a self-filling prophecy.
Like I said, the price right now "to me" is a indicator of investor confidence. Not after a flip, and with shakey hands still holding shares "they" can play on emotions.

People this is what is meant by NOT trading on your emotions!

You should know by now what you may have, place your bid and walk away, scared money will always lose. JMO but fact ~

GLTA -nice job Rat [Smile]
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Well Mr. Maumee...since you're bored, care to explain why you thinkn it wants to bounce down there? I'm trying to learn charting and I like to look at a chart and try to see what you see, but I'm at a loss this time!

Thanks!
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
Not much has changed over the last few days but with the announcement of a CUSIP change and last nights BOD chosen name change I am thinking that holding off the 10K until they complete the change may be in their best interest. Not so much for us current investors, but for new investors and institutional investors.

Good to see you finally figured it out.

Rufus said in the beginning everything is designed for their emergence onto the nasdaq.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
IMO.... let me say that again.. IMO I think Rufus has a watch dog at $1.00
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Good point chart! The FHAL financials are supposed to be and expected to be +-#!?
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
he had him there from the beginning. Remember the $7.21 ask put up after hours last friday? It was indeed a message from a friend.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Rufus is a trip... having alot of fun with this. Must be fun havin your finger on this button... he's just waiting for the "right" time to pull the trigger.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
IMO.... let me say that again.. IMO I think Rufus has a watch dog at $1.00

this is a very interesting speculation - and one that makes sense to me.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
Not much has changed over the last few days but with the announcement of a CUSIP change and last nights BOD chosen name change I am thinking that holding off the 10K until they complete the change may be in their best interest. Not so much for us current investors, but for new investors and institutional investors.

Good to see you finally figured it out.

Rufus said in the beginning everything is designed for their emergence onto the nasdaq.

Thanks Rufus... -ah,... I mean Sceptor ~ [Wink]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I'm feeling more and more that Rufus is trying to make the play of a lifetime . . . hopefully we can benefit too.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
IMO.... let me say that again.. IMO I think Rufus has a watch dog at $1.00

this is a very interesting speculation - and one that makes sense to me.
Hey bud ~ Yeah, he already stated he has one at the $15 mark, did he not?...

That $1.00 is very important, I don't think Rat fully knows what he touched on. Rat's going to be driving Vette's in no time! ha ha ~

JMO ~
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
[/QB][/QUOTE]Thanks Rufus... -ah,... I mean Sceptor ~ [Wink] [/QB][/QUOTE]

haha...I wasn't gonna say anything...maybe it's his secretary or something, lol...

sometimes the internet is kinda loopy...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I have not been able to make much of the 386 docs that have been posted Tex and BB seem to have a good grasp on what is required to pull a 386 off. Personally, I did not read the 8K that way. I would think a bad 10KSB is not in anyone’s interest, and any 10KSB would include both numbers for Conversion and Fronthaul combined and just by placing the new Conversion numbers in the document would show greatly improved value. I think I read that in a reverse merger the absorbed company must show ability to assume 90% of all debt of the shell, and 80% greater book value, but don’t take my word on that especially the 80% part. (Just writing it sounds like I made it up.) I am sure there are stips on what constitutes a RM, but the numbers and the rules around a 386 are greek to me.

Overall, I do expect a complete 10KSB including everyone’s numbers, and the larger the better. Would be awesome if it looked anything like Haliburton’s 10-K the other day. Minus the lawsuits and disputes of course, but that is some serious wishful thinking. Once again following me on this because I know I am lost... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
I know things like this can very easily get delayed, and I am in this for the long (short) hall, but what about Rufus saying that our shares would be worth $15 on August 1st? Am I just reading too much into that statement, or should I feel a bit wary? I am still holding, and don't plan on dropping for under 15, but it still makes me wonder.
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 

 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Well Mr. Maumee...since you're bored, care to explain why you thinkn it wants to bounce down there? I'm trying to learn charting and I like to look at a chart and try to see what you see, but I'm at a loss this time!

Thanks!

Thats a tall order,,,,,I've been lookin at charts for damn near 20 years,,,,of and on... Heck, we used to make them by hand all nite long then stare at them just in time to make a trade in the morning...(before the internet was) After a while I think that you just see things that are trapped in the back of your mind..Kind of a deja vue...

We have good support at the .80 level today...pretty strong.... But a good shake, and the way those blastard MM's like to take advantage, it could blow thru and the next level is below .60....I could be lookin to hard..
 
Posted by mnvestor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
I know things like this can very easily get delayed, and I am in this for the long (short) hall, but what about Rufus saying that our shares would be worth $15 on August 1st? Am I just reading too much into that statement, or should I feel a bit wary? I am still holding, and don't plan on dropping for under 15, but it still makes me wonder.

I think rufus had every intention of finishing deal by 1st, unfortunately shiz happens...sometimes in business things dont always go as planned.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I think we need to sit back and let the ship dock.

I have faith in the Captain.

"GO RUFUS!!!" [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
I know things like this can very easily get delayed, and I am in this for the long (short) hall, but what about Rufus saying that our shares would be worth $15 on August 1st? Am I just reading too much into that statement, or should I feel a bit wary? I am still holding, and don't plan on dropping for under 15, but it still makes me wonder.

I think rufus had every intention of finishing deal by 1st, unfortunately shiz happens...sometimes in business things dont always go as planned.
Definitely explains why we have not heard much from him. [Wink]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by milliam:
Well Mr. Maumee...since you're bored, care to explain why you thinkn it wants to bounce down there? I'm trying to learn charting and I like to look at a chart and try to see what you see, but I'm at a loss this time!

Thanks!

Thats a tall order,,,,,I've been lookin at charts for damn near 20 years,,,,of and on... Heck, we used to make them by hand all nite long then stare at them just in time to make a trade in the morning...(before the internet was) After a while I think that you just see things that are trapped in the back of your mind..Kind of a deja vue...

We have good support at the .80 level today...pretty strong.... But a good shake, and the way those blastard MM's like to take advantage, it could blow thru and the next level is below .60....I could be lookin to hard..

You used to do P & F charts?! Now there's a lost art ~ I had your age around 25, guess I was wrong!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Thanks Maumee. I realize its a black art and I appreciate your charting input. Seems like you are right on lots of these things and I just want to see that stuff too. Maybe one day I'll be the jedi you are [Smile] .

Charting by hand...man, I bet yall were giddy when computers and spread sheets came about. [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
geez . . . just how many engineers do we have on this thread? Catia, milliam, myself - others?
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
geez . . . just how many engineers do we have on this thread? Catia, milliam, myself - others?

Me too!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Speaking of the Jedi... check out our boy Rufus on the turntables!

Imperial Death March for the shorties1

http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/157650/
 
Posted by dog on :
 
doctorate in medicine here, BS in Biomedical Science
 
Posted by dog on :
 
There seem s to be a bit of intelligent talent on this board... you guys do killer DD!

Again... make your own decisions...
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
HSM...

I called Ameritrade and asked them about the reverse merger between FHAL and Conversion solutions, I asked the guy if he knew what the new symbol would be and he said CSHC.dba...also asked him about the whole tranfering shares thing and he said that when they recieve the shares from FHAL it would take 3 business days to complete, I also asked him if when the price is reset at 15 how could I sell if I wanted to, he told me if there is stars around the fhal symbol in your account you would have to call the sell in and if there is no stars around the symbol you can sell online.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
PHD here... "Piled High,... & DEEP!" LOL ~~
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Ain't dat special... I have to count on the pencil pusher to sell my stock? great...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
No kidding Chart... not about to put anything more than the minimum each month to the student loans...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Hey..maumee...all this mention of your "prehistoric times and talents"...feelin' your age yet? LOL [Wink]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Hey..maumee...all this mention of your "prehistoric times and talents"...feelin' your age yet? LOL [Wink]

ha ... My BS meter just went off... what's going down?!! LOL ~
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Chartwalker no BS...just razzin'...Maumee and I "grew up" in the same area...but we don't know each other...he's older than I am! LOL!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
"It's all good ~" I love this board, good bunch of people [Smile] -salute!

Now, let's get this thing moving again...
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
I have a B.F.D degree from the school of hard knocks...Plenty of research completed.LOL [Big Grin]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:

You used to do P & F charts?! Now there's a lost art ~ I had your age around 25, guess I was wrong! [/QB][/QUOTE]


Yup!!! Burned up a boat load of #2H pencils and a few thousand pounds of graph paper..LOL

Bye the way... I think I have a pair of Levi's that are 25 years old...or damn close to it..LOL

They still fit too!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I tried to clue a friend of mine into this stock.... said she didn't go to school to learn trading and would leave it all up to her broker....
Any of you guys ever learn this stuff in school?
I think not...
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
river, 25 yr old levi's? Ya ever washed um?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
School of Hard Knocks has a hefty tuition!!!$$$$$$
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
river, 25 yr old levi's? Ya ever washed um?

Dust...are you seein' "$" signs?...LOL
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I'm thinkin it would be a good idea Dusty!!!

Gettin a little gamey.. [Eek!]
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
I tried to clue a friend of mine into this stock.... said she didn't go to school to learn trading and would leave it all up to her broker....
Any of you guys ever learn this stuff in school?
I think not...

Never saw a "system" that I liked, so I combined a bunch of the best things out of several. As far as an over the counter trading system, I would turn someone on to Vector Vest, that seems like a solid system but I never tried it. Otherwise Tradestation IMO is the place to be, need $5000 to open an account. They have all the bells and whistles ~

They have a market scanner in REAL time, you punch in the price range and it looks for breakouts placing the strongest ones at the top of a ever refreshing list. One click to see a chart, one more click and your predifined order is sent. How sweet is that?!

They have IMO the best backtesting system out there. You can lay down how you want to trade, say off a MACD, Stochastic or combo's, and with a click it'll show you what your trading method produced,... -or didn't produce [Smile]

After we bag this puppy maybe I'll see some of you there on the message board!

GLTA!!!!
 
Posted by Mantux on :
 
Dog, I went to school for this but haven't used it in years. I have a BA in Finance. You guys do such a great job, that it makes me miss doing the leg work. I hope to get back on track soon.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Somebody say sumthin!!!!!


I can't stand the silence!!!
 
Posted by BLACKBEARD on :
 
sumthin
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
well, i am out of town thru the weekend. im gonna try to follow intermittently via laptop.

*crosses fingers* keep me posted y'all [Smile]

im off. good luck!

~BB
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
I'll say something - I'm glad that today's price movement isn't charting my heart rate - because I'd be flatline . . . the calm before the storm.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
I'll say something - I'm glad that today's price movement isn't charting my heart rate - because I'd be flatline . . . the calm before the storm.

Seeing how it's so dead... _ever try the vodka VOX? Distilled 5 times! Nice crisp clean buzz and it leaves you alone in the morning. -Used to like Kettle myself [Smile] When we get together I'll buy us one! [Smile]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
This stock is boring... think I'm getting out.
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Vox is good with 50/50, but Jack and coke is my favorite! [Smile]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
I'll say something - I'm glad that today's price movement isn't charting my heart rate - because I'd be flatline . . . the calm before the storm.

Seeing how it's so dead... _ever try the vodka VOX? Distilled 5 times! Nice crisp clean buzz and it leaves you alone in the morning. -Used to like Kettle myself [Smile] When we get together I'll buy us one! [Smile]
that's probably my favorite thing I learned after college about alcohol - it does make a difference to buy the good stuff. I don't recall trying VOX, but it's now on my list so it's a done deal.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
This stock is boring... think I'm getting out.

Boring? So is standing in line for the biggest roller coaster at an amusement park...but then it's your turn for the ride...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Here is something from pinksheets.com news on FHAL.
quote:

COMPANY NEWS AND PRESS RELEASES FROM OTHER SOURCES:

www.****************: Updates on Conversion Solutions, Inc

Aug 03, 2006 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Market Gainer is quickly emerging as the one stop shop for international small-cap investors looking to stay a step ahead of the markets. Today's activity on the Nasdaq exchange has brought Conversion Solutions, Inc (OTCBB:FHAL) to the attention of our research team. Our goal is to create a community of international investors who consistently and effectively capitalize on the enormous gains the small-cap Canadian and American exchanges offer.
Shares down $.06 to $1.03 on the Bulletin Boards Thursday. Today's activity comes as Conversion Solutions, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: FHAL - News), a Delaware Corporation updates shareholders.

The BOD has executed a name change of the Corporation to "Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp." Delaware file Number 3924960.

The corporation will also continue to do business as (DBA) "Conversion Solutions, Inc." for a short transactional period.



 
Posted by dog on :
 
Hey I found Rufus off partying in his boat with some friends... get back to work!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sexi_blondie_with_a_brain/91567685/
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Sorry guys.. I'll stick to stocks... just getting bored...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
Vox is good with 50/50, but Jack and coke is my favorite! [Smile]

Mine too! Imagine that ~ "Gentlemen Jack" not the regular stuff, and NOT the 100 proof "Single Barrel" Jack! whoa ~~
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
LOL dog.... Which one is Rufas??
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
chartwalker~ I'm with you on that!!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
1330 SEC Filings and none of any interest... except Coca-Cola is placing the golden handcuffs on their fat cats, by announcing their Stock Award Program!

[Smile] TB
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
LOL dog.... Which one is Rufas??

......That's my boat!...and.... my girlfriend!!!
WTF!!! ~~ LOL ~
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Can't even get a wiff of Jack without tossin cookies....Tried to take out a 1/2 gallon when I was a kid...by myself....The memories have been long,long lasting....
 
Posted by luvforever on :
 
Ok I'm baaack LOL guess still waiting for the roller coaster ride? I was kinda going crazy wanting to know what was going on and if I missed anything? But... No, I was antsy and for what, all that anxiety for notta!!! Oh well... [Wink]
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
one thing my dad taught me...and i was this way during college as well...NEVER BUY THE CHEAP STUFF...

it's maker's mark for me...if i'm feeling exotic i have a weakness for tequila...so i stick the anejo 1800...

if i'm supplying and not out...nothing but Blanton's ...

my friends always b*itched in school when we had parties cuss I was a prima donna with the liquor, lol...
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
I hear that mixing Bloody Mary's, jack and coke and Corona send you on a mojor barf-o-rama! LOL
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Rufus taking the picture...
[Razz]
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
borin sh1t, im going to get some pizza and watch HBO...past week has been the most homosexual week for what im holding.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
I hear that mixing Bloody Mary's, jack and coke and Corona send you on a mojor barf-o-rama! LOL

ok that's enough out of you! Shhhhh! ha ha ~~~~~~~
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Bein' stupid is what brings on the "barf-o-rama"..

I am strictly a beer kinda guy anymore..

With a part time wine fetish..
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Pal talk...talk...
Just posting something to read....

merica: nothing going to happen today!!
dgambar8: he said they may put a one day hold on it...so dont look for it to open under new symbol Monday...but TUESDAY
30west: omg
new2market: oh man
dgambar8: TA told me that.....he knew what he was talking about
fonzy35: i like it , the price is holding steady, look like the long got control... $1.02
sbtrader: no way
nolerx: well at least this is good DD
Vishamerica: Tuesday the earliest
boomcykcyk: arghh
joker620: tuesday now???
Valis333: hahahahahah
Vishamerica: a week late from the deadline
aleemm: omg....tuesday...that is one week past original last possible day
30west: omg
nolerx: better late than never
Vishamerica: i mean if you think about it
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
A nice warm sour kraut and cottage cheese sandwich will get an over indulged person goin pretty good too..

Try it on a friend!!

Its pretty funny!!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
A nice warm sour kraut and cottage cheese sandwich will get an over indulged person goin pretty good too..

Try it on a friend!!

Its pretty funny!!

That's just wrong!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
A nice warm sour kraut and cottage cheese sandwich will get an over indulged person goin pretty good too..

Try it on a friend!!

Its pretty funny!!

omg! LOL ~~.....
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Originally Posted by dgambar8
I just talked to the TA............35904V 10 4 does show as valid but they need to reassign a new CUSIP, which they are hoping to be done today..35904V 10 4 was assigned to the wrong entity...Once it is done, NASDAQ should have it by tomorrow....and it will be ready to open under new symbol. Nasdaq will then send out news to the brokerages.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
It all depends on how pissed you are at your friends, 10!!
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Yeah I saw that on Paltalk too... just went in there for a second to see if they had dug anything up. Not real savy on another weekend with nothing to hold the price up. They had better PR something here soon.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
It all depends on how pissed you are at your friends, 10!!

I'll have to remember to never drink with you...or be considered your friend...LOL...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Yeah I saw that on Paltalk too... just went in there for a second to see if they had dug anything up. Not real savy on another weekend with nothing to hold the price up. They had better PR something here soon.

That kinda chit may make the ole' charts test those lower support lines I mentioned earlier..
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TaxBack04:
Yeah I saw that on Paltalk too... just went in there for a second to see if they had dug anything up. Not real savy on another weekend with nothing to hold the price up. They had better PR something here soon.

Another weekend is ok if crab is right and there's a lil' doggie gaurding $1
 
Posted by dog on :
 
822k volume at 1pm.. did ye think you would see that? Longs in control now
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
It all depends on how pissed you are at your friends, 10!!

I'll have to remember to never drink with you...or be considered your friend...LOL...
Wanna go have a few beers and a bite to eat,10???

Ole buddy!!!

lol
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
That kinda chit may make the ole' charts test those lower support lines I mentioned earlier..

Agreed... I guess I could sell off a couple of my kids and buy more share when it gets down to those levels. [Smile]

Enough talk about the saurkraught and cottege cheese... You all are making me hungry and now I have to go get lunch... THANKS!

I am offically turning off the SEC Filing monitor since it looks like things are delayed (yet again) but will look at it again this afternoon because I am now addicted.

I think I will go watch some sport news over at Buffalo Wild Wings for lunch today.

[Big Grin] TB
 
Posted by new2stocks on :
 
Originally posted by Tomohawk

Hi, Guys.

I just spoke with Dianne at the T/A. She told me the same thing that's been reported here: A new CUSIP ID is being assigned due to some screw up from the SEC. They expect the error to be corrected today or tomorrow, and the resolution of the issue to be ready on Monday. She said a new ticker symbol will be part of the resolution. She DID NOT give me the new symbol, though (darn it!). She also had no idea of specific company info...

So, I guess I'm waiting around for Monday now...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Thanks new2!!!

Good stuff..

thanks for posting..
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by new2stocks:
Originally posted by Tomohawk

Hi, Guys.

I just spoke with Dianne at the T/A. She told me the same thing that's been reported here: A new CUSIP ID is being assigned due to some screw up from the SEC. They expect the error to be corrected today or tomorrow, and the resolution of the issue to be ready on Monday. She said a new ticker symbol will be part of the resolution. She DID NOT give me the new symbol, though (darn it!). She also had no idea of specific company info...

So, I guess I'm waiting around for Monday now...

Seems to be the buzz.... [Smile] -good work
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
So, in other words........another lonnnng weekend!! It would be nice if one of our boys would come out and make this public knowledge. Although, confidence seems to be there regardless if we havent even hit a mil in volume yet!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
It's a stalemate... amazing..no movement..no volume...and surprisingly not much more external interest in this stock?
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
As long as that $1 holds [Smile]
Ruff-Ruff (us)

I think I'm right, that bounced off of a dollar like a rubber ball! ha ~
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
As long as that $1 holds [Smile]
Ruff-Ruff (us)

I think I'm right, that bounced off of a dollar like a rubber ball! ha ~

Ya lose lift without forward motion....Unless you got a rocket strapped to your azz and it's just the count down left..

You may be right, I may be crazy,,, theres a song in there somewhere..
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
It all depends on how pissed you are at your friends, 10!!

I'll have to remember to never drink with you...or be considered your friend...LOL...
Wanna go have a few beers and a bite to eat,10???

Ole buddy!!!


lol

Nah..I already know you're pissed at me..LOL!
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Not pissed at all,but I can understand your apprehention...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Not pissed at all,but I can understand your apprehention...

yeah that's it "apprehention"...

How many think this will take a big dip? My cut off was this Friday...might have to reconsider now...ARGH!
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Somebody say sumthin!!!!!


I can't stand the silence!!!

-----------------------------------------------
O' tah
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Thats a tough call, 10!!

Me....I thinkin yes...

Still holding,,,, Gotta let this one play out
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Not pissed at all,but I can understand your apprehention...

yeah that's it "apprehention"...

How many think this will take a big dip? My cut off was this Friday...might have to reconsider now...ARGH!

Ive had so many cut off dates im now cutting of my cut off dates. Unless i can see some strong evidence that something is "wrong" I no longer have a cut off date. Hopefully we will have some sort of update to base your decision on.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I'm thinking it won't be bad if it does. Too many holding and waiting for that 15 dollars. Others might be trying to join still.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
damn...left...had some good sushi...hoping to come back and find some in depth analytical discussion going on...


sauercrout and cottage cheese...pfffftttt....
 
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
It all depends on how pissed you are at your friends, 10!!

Who needs friends when we have Allstocks and the stock market to keep us amused?

Friends and money don't mix well. When they get together they both dissapear!
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
EOD run today??? -any takers?...
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Hedge fund meltdown coming up on CNBC...

Might be worth a listen..
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Damn!!!
I should open a Deli'
Peeps are really likin the menue so far..
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
A little off topic, Maumee and 10....the weather map says you two are "gettin it!" right about now. Rough weather down that way?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Clear in south Toledo , cat..

Got hammered in Swantucky last nite
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Where's ARCA today?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Just rain by me Cat...(SW of Toledo...)
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
unbeleivable lightning storm in Naples Fl.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Gettin a little tired of the rain around here,,,I think we had over ten inches in july...broke allthe records...Mosquitoes the size of grasshoppers this year..

Would like to have sent some of it out west...
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
over 10 minutes and not action at all
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
Cox is going to be on CNBC, Hedge Funds the topic..
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rain?... I had water in my "carpeted" basement yesterday, seems a raingutter was plugged!

PMO!! ha ~
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
Next time you ask Purl Gurl for an opinion in a stock, keep in mind who she really is. You will only benefit from that.

[i]Posted by: Purl Gurl
In reply to: iknowmorethanyou who wrote msg# 28698
Date: 8/3/2006 1:50:19 PM
Post # of 28737

RE: opinions..**********, by iknowmorethanyou

iknowmorethanyou, which is doubtful, writes,

"Any opinions on new ********** article?"

Stock Lemon is dead on right. I advised readers,
elsewhere, of this information weeks back, long
before Stock Lemon published this information.

I do not agree with the childish rhetoric at
Stock Lemon, this "liar" and "hire a lawyer"
senseless crap. Their wording is insulting.

Nonetheless, documentation and mature discussion
at Stock Lemon is correct.

Harris and company are presented with serious
credibility issues.

Purl Gurl[/]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Gettin a little tired of the rain around here,,,I think we had over ten inches in july...broke allthe records...Mosquitoes the size of grasshoppers this year..

Would like to have sent some of it out west...

Haha, yea i think i was bitten by a mosquito 2 nights ago and half my cheek was swollen up. If i didnt know better i would have sworn it was a wasp or something.
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Rain?... I had water in my "carpeted" basement yesterday, seems a raingutter was plugged!

PMO!! ha ~
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Holy Sh*T!!!! EVERYONE... An order went thru!!

"Did you see it?!! Can anyone confirm?!!! LMAO!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
HAHA...don't ever come to New Orleans then catia...damn mesquito's u'll drain small dog here...gotta watch out for that west nile stuff too...
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
Well... Fidelity now no longer tells me that there is any news available for FHAL. It was giving me stuff earlier, but no longer. Either Fidelity is screwed up, or something is happening. Anyone seen any L2's lately and might be able to make heads or tails of this?
 
Posted by unclerudy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by unclerudy:
Well... Fidelity now no longer tells me that there is any news available for FHAL. It was giving me stuff earlier, but no longer. Either Fidelity is screwed up, or something is happening. Anyone seen any L2's lately and might be able to make heads or tails of this?

Well... Fidelity just had a hiccup. Damn you Fidelity for getting my hopes up, damn you.
 
Posted by 66inxs on :
 
https://sos-res.state.de.us/tin/controller

check this out. CHSC was formed in feb 2005 not a name change from conversion solutions, inc. what is going on here ?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
HAHA...don't ever come to New Orleans then catia...damn mesquito's u'll drain small dog here...gotta watch out for that west nile stuff too...

They'll flippin carry you away there...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 66inxs:
https://sos-res.state.de.us/tin/controller

check this out. CHSC was formed in feb 2005 not a name change from conversion solutions, inc. what is going on here ?

Link doesn't work.... But possibly that is why there was a problem and we are now looking at Tuesday... "?"

"""Rumor""" has it that something happened with that symbol and that we need a new one again...
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
check this out. CHSC was formed in feb 2005 not a name change from conversion solutions, inc. what is going on here ?

Nothing more than a lack of all the details on your part is all thats going on here.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I live in an area called Oak Openings... It's the last of what was once the "Great Black Swamp"

The water table is only about 4 feet below grade in our area... This year it has been around 3 innces below grade.... Ist time I've seen it like this... Mosquito city... Deet is my friend..
 
Posted by SherriT on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
HAHA...don't ever come to New Orleans then catia...damn mesquito's u'll drain small dog here...gotta watch out for that west nile stuff too...

They'll flippin carry you away there...
CRab, if you have access to straight ammonia, it is awesome for mosquito bites. My hubby brought the tip home from a refinery in Pascagoula...works like a charm too! There are no shortage of them here, either...
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:
Originally posted by 66inxs:
https://sos-res.state.de.us/tin/controller

check this out. CHSC was formed in feb 2005 not a name change from conversion solutions, inc. what is going on here ?

Link doesn't work.... But possibly that is why there was a problem and we are now looking at Tuesday... "?"

"""Rumor""" has it that something happened with that symbol and that we need a new one again...

I thought it was CSHC - not CHSC...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I'm told that the cusip change could be easily taken care of with a phone call... must be waiting for another reason?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
I live in an area called Oak Openings... It's the last of what was once the "Great Black Swamp"

The water table is only about 4 feet below grade in our area... This year it has been around 3 innces below grade.... Ist time I've seen it like this... Mosquito city... Deet is my friend..

Wow, are you right by the metropark then? Thats like treehugger heaven there. Ive heard its pretty nice, never been there myself.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
CRab, if you have access to straight ammonia, it is awesome for mosquito bites. My hubby brought the tip home from a refinery in Pascagoula...works like a charm too! There are no shortage of them here, either... [/QB]

straight ammonia...i can honestly say i've never heard that...i'll remember that...

so...where is that guy with the magical guessing abilities again?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Tree huggers? We got a few in Ann Arbor... LOL
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Tree huggers? We got a few in Ann Arbor... LOL

A few? LOL
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
I live in an area called Oak Openings... It's the last of what was once the "Great Black Swamp"

The water table is only about 4 feet below grade in our area... This year it has been around 3 innces below grade.... Ist time I've seen it like this... Mosquito city... Deet is my friend..

Wow, are you right by the metropark then? Thats like treehugger heaven there. Ive heard its pretty nice, never been there myself.
He's talking about the "whole" area...being the "oak Openings region"...

I am about a mile from the actual Metropark...yeah..it's gorgeous...living so close..I feel like I am on vacation 24/7...

I walk out my back door and leave the puter, cell phone all of it...It's great! I keep the property treated as well as I can...but it's tough with this rain!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Can we even break 1 million on volume today? Talk about sloooooow.

I sure hope we don't have to go through the weekend with no news!
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
I live in an area called Oak Openings... It's the last of what was once the "Great Black Swamp"

The water table is only about 4 feet below grade in our area... This year it has been around 3 innces below grade.... Ist time I've seen it like this... Mosquito city... Deet is my friend..

Wow, are you right by the metropark then? Thats like treehugger heaven there. Ive heard its pretty nice, never been there myself.
He's talking about the "whole" area...being the "oak Openings region"...

I am about a mile from the actual Metropark...yeah..it's gorgeous...living so close..I feel like I am on vacation 24/7...

I walk out my back door and leave the puter, cell phone all of it...It's great! I keep the property treated as well as I can...but it's tough with this rain!

And to top it all off you can skinny dip in your pool! Youve got it made 10.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i'm pretty confident we get "something" today...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Chit 10!!

We be neighbors!!!

There goes the neighborhood!! [Eek!] [Eek!]
 
Posted by Sandusky on :
 
Hey Sceptor...how's the weather in ATL?? [Smile]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
You think Crab? I'm not sure that them "reporting" the "screw up" with the Cuspid number would go over well...bashers would have a hay day with that..saying it's a scam...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Maumee...are you out here?
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Well I looked we are not on www.cusip.com...

NEW CUSIP NUMBERS ASSIGNED TODAY: RICHLAND CNTY OHIO HOSP FACS REV...SOMERVILLE N J...KIMBERLITE CDO I LTD / KIMBERLITE CDO I LLC...KIMBERLITE CDO I LTD...PASSAIC N J...CREDIT SUISSE USA INC...EAST ROCHESTER N Y HSG AUTH REV...RENFORTH RES INC...UTAH HSG CORP SINGLE FAMILY MTG REV...MERRILL LYNCH BK USA SALT LAKE CITY UTAH...BA CR CARD TR...CHICOPEE MASS...RED WING MINN INDPT SCH DIST NO 256...REDCLIFFE EXPL LTD...
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
what can I say...I think I believe the rumors regarding the mystic "watch the wires for the next two days" comment...

although it's not like I'm basing any desicions off that...if this happens i'll probably hold through the new year, lol...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Maumee...are you out here?

bump....YES!!!

maumee river rat
Member


posted August 03, 2006 14:20
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I live in an area called Oak Openings... It's the last of what was once the "Great Black Swamp"

The water table is only about 4 feet below grade in our area... This year it has been around 3 innces below grade.... Ist time I've seen it like this... Mosquito city... Deet is my friend..
 
Posted by 66inxs on :
 
https://sos-res.state.de.us/tin/GINameSearch.jsp

try this link for CSHC
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
EOD run again?.. ha ha ~~
-Didn't see that coming... -riiiiight ~

5 min. charts shows an almost perfect ascending triangle!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
Harvard Business Services, Inc.

is that an old name or something? have i just forgotten about something discussed prior?
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
why is the bid (1.08) so far above the ask (1.06)?
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
look at all the buying in the last 20 min...someone is trying to start something...
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
why is the bid (1.08) so far above the ask (1.06)?

need shares??
 
Posted by Danny_K on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sandusky:
Hey Sceptor...how's the weather in ATL?? [Smile]

Ill help him answer.. ::: HOT AS CHIT! [Big Grin] blue skys [Big Grin]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
nope... just a sleepin MM maybe..
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
so we gonna have another run up and close a few points low today?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
EOD run again?.. ha ha ~~
-Didn't see that coming... -riiiiight ~

5 min. charts shows an almost perfect ascending triangle!

False break-out??
 
Posted by 66inxs on :
 
Hey CRab, you are so right Harvard Business was already discussed. now look at the formation date - February, 2005. over a year old. is this really a name change or is something else going on?
you tell me.
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i thought it sounded familier...sorry to drag old stuff out...

ya'll think 1.10 is kinda strong, lol?
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
EOD run again?.. ha ha ~~
-Didn't see that coming... -riiiiight ~

5 min. charts shows an almost perfect ascending triangle!

False break-out??
NOPE!!!

Good call, Chartwalker!!....so far..
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
EOD run again?.. ha ha ~~
-Didn't see that coming... -riiiiight ~

5 min. charts shows an almost perfect ascending triangle!

False break-out??
Well it never did break back down so I guess no ~ GOOD!!! ha ~
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
If it gets some legs.... 1.15 can happen....gotta get goin though
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
volume helps! lol ~
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
just a little..
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
no wonder there's no volume... -everyone has everything PAWNED already!!! LOL ~
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I think we are the only ones left today, Chart
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
Yeah... not a "Superbowl ending" that's for sure! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CRab:
HAHA...don't ever come to New Orleans then catia...damn mesquito's u'll drain small dog here...gotta watch out for that west nile stuff too...

i'm in metairie at the moment
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Naaa, I am here too [Wink]
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I am here listening to you two... it is barely entertaining. /jk
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
I think we are the only ones left today, Chart

Naw, im here. Ive just seen this show a few times already. [Smile]
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
Still here
 
Posted by CRab on :
 

 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
I'm still here... just got off work to watch the eod Ls... looks like DOM MM did fall asleep with his 1.08 bid. I'm still long with 1000 shares!
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
i'm in metairie at the moment [/QB]

yeah...it's actually not so bad right now...in a few weeks though it's gonna feel like death...
 
Posted by Chartwalker on :
 
I think I've seen enough ~
Peace out.
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
I think we can call this a False break-out now...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chartwalker:
I think I've seen enough ~
Peace out.

Haha 5 minutes before close. That shows just how bored we have all become of this. [Smile]
 
Posted by maumee river rat on :
 
Ya... But it has held pretty tough all day.... I'll call that good...
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Ya... But it has held pretty tough all day.... I'll call that good...

Yup, it seems the longs are still long and faith in Rufus prevails yet again. Im headed home. Ciao!
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Big try at the end to get it below $1 failed.
 
Posted by fryyguyy on :
 
Well this has sure been an exciting day. Not even 2 mill in volume. Just sad. [Confused] [Frown]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
the longer for this to happen, the less shares i'm holding.. just dumped another 10k shares today..
 
Posted by cassity on :
 
Wow, I'm glad I lost sleep last night for this exciting day. BORINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!
 
Posted by milliam on :
 
Alright time for some afterhours excitement. Maybe some news or something, or maybe you all go back to drinking again [Smile] .
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
G
A
Y
 
Posted by CRab on :
 
i guess people really are bored with this...
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
I think the reason we are all so bored with this stock is because we are all ADHD. I am. I even take medication of it. I also read that alot of ADHDers are draw to the pennies as they are more willing to take risk. I know I am. ADHD are also drawn into "hyperfocus". That's when you stay awake all night playing HALO 2 even when you have to wake up in the morning (ooorrrrr... posting late at night because we are adicted to this borring stock and think that maybe, just maybe some late breaking news will come out or be discovered by someoneelses DD at 1:14am.) I know I do that. Lets face it. we are ADHD addictive personalities willing to take this risk, we are all very passionate people, we are bored because nothing is happening fast enough for our ADHDness and yet we can't pull ourselves from our computers. But... in the end... were all gonna be freaking rich!!! come on Rufi!!!
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
i dont have ADHD, i just got BTPF

Bills To Pay For
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I think most traders are not used to holding a stock long term.. (i.e. 2 weeks vs. 2 days or less). It takes as long as it takes... no one will change my mind, this deal seems worth the risk. Most of you feel that way as well or you would have sold off your shares and vacated this board a long time ago.
I was hoping for news as well, planned a day off tomorrow to celebrate into the weekend, which I'm still going to do.
Keep hopin... still looks good.
Isn't America great! Where else could you have a chance like this? Enjoy this process... and understand how free and how blessed your lives really are.
If your getting nervous... go ahead and sell..no worries.
I just get a little peeved at the dubious info and scare tactics that others use to try and influence my opinion.
Show me the facts... I will believe that. Even if this thing goes in the dumper, it will happen so fast that none of us will be able to sell it off. One big bag we are holding here. Oh well, we new the risk, but it's the closest thing we will ever get to a winning lottery ticket in our lives. Hope it works out for everyone..
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
I think most traders are not used to holding a stock long term.. (i.e. 2 weeks vs. 2 days or less). It takes as long as it takes... no one will change my mind, this deal seems worth the risk. Most of you feel that way as well or you would have sold off your shares and vacated this board a long time ago.
I was hoping for news as well, planned a day off tomorrow to celebrate into the weekend, which I'm still going to do.
Keep hopin... still looks good.
Isn't America great! Where else could you have a chance like this? Enjoy this process... and understand how free and how blessed your lives really are.
If your getting nervous... go ahead and sell..no worries.
I just get a little peeved at the dubious info and scare tactics that others use to try and influence my opinion.
Show me the facts... I will believe that. Even if this thing goes in the dumper, it will happen so fast that none of us will be able to sell it off. One big bag we are holding here. Oh well, we new the risk, but it's the closest thing we will ever get to a winning lottery ticket in our lives. Hope it works out for everyone..

Ok NOW i see the Ann Arbor in ya!! Well said dog. If nothing else we've had a wild ride and met some great (and wacky) people eh?

And, who knows.......

Hmmmm, wait....were you local? Now i cant remember....i was thinking you were Ann Arbor but there are so many locals on here!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Nonetheless, it will make for interesting talk at the pub... (Ashley's in Ann Arbor.. 60 Multitap, 270 beers)

At least we have a story to tell...

I'm going to pop off my Birkenstocks and run wanton through the grass and hug the biggest tree I can find.

That's a joke from a type A, obsessive compulsive, part-time manic, professional male in his thirties [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Nonetheless, it will make for interesting talk at the pub... (Ashley's in Ann Arbor.. 60 Multitap, 270 beers)

At least we have a story to tell...

I'm going to pop off my Birkenstocks and run wanton through the grass and hug the biggest tree I can find.

That's a joke from a type A, obsessive compulsive, part-time manic, professional male in his thirties [Roll Eyes]

It made perfect sense to me......
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Sorry, i dont like to post "negative" types of things here but this is the first one that actually has some meat to it. Nothing confirmed of course but not a bad speculation IMO.

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12441403
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Haha, the episode of Simpsons thats on right now is about "Stock manipulation and intentionally reducing investor confidence". Its like i needed a sign or something. [Wink]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Could be true.. but does that mean there is no merger or viable and successful business to result from this? They stand to make more money if it's a successful company.. do they not?
I know that they are executing this deal because they think they will get paid well.... question is: are they letting us in on the deal, or are we the deal?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Yea, the million dollar question huh........

Im not even sure being IN on the deal would be great at this point. Im just gonne deny existence of a deal for tonight
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Like I put it to my friend who has $35k in on this... only put in money to chance in this investment the amount that you are willing to drop in a bowl and take a match to...
With the current DD I feel its worth the risk.
It's an all or nothing proposition... Fronthaul is an empty, worthless shell.
If that's all we are left with, our stock will be worth nothing in less than 30 seconds, as no one will be buying it, no matter what the price.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Man . . . iHub is brutal... makes you think you should stay away from stocks for good.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Your friend would drop $35k in a bowl and take a match to it?

Anyway, i agree...im in all or nothing still. And i follow what you were saying above, in the end we really could be IN on the deal. If he did do what Kapone is speculating and its not totally illegal it could be possible he is doing it to fund the company. I mean, he has already been involved in 2 company "flops" we could call them, maybe he is trying REAL hard this time. I especially like the part about him saying that FHAL was the right company, right stock right time. A shell with PIPEs available to the first bidder that he can dilute into the pool before merger time. This has my mind warped.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Man . . . iHub is brutal... makes you think you should stay away from stocks for good.

Yea, its not a friendly place. Not much value added commentary for sure. And, you have to sift through about 50 before you come across a good point.
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Look, you're in this stock for the hard information presented so far. If you want to imagine things, then you could probably come up with many more scenarios.

The ihub poster said it was only their theory. Shorty apparantly wasn't even a consideration in that post. I'm staying long and strong!
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
Look, you're in this stock for the hard information presented so far. If you want to imagine things, then you could probably come up with many more scenarios.

The ihub poster said it was only their theory. Shorty apparantly wasn't even a consideration in that post. I'm staying long and strong!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
I'm not saying he would... likely he'll pare down the shares he is holding. Just trying to point out that a dollar in your pocket is worth more to you than a dollar in someone else's pocket.

Just have to understand the risk... if, as people are saying, this will change their lives, they either:

1) Got in early - many shares, low monetary risk
2) Got in several times and flipped - many shares and playing with found money.
3) Got in way over their heads.... and this will definitely change their lives.

I'm 36 ... it would take an awful lot of money to change my life. I have many years of bills and life experience to pay for yet. A million dollars doesn't go as far as one would think (taxes, life, illness, etc.)
The key is to be smart with the money one makes...
I'm sure I could put this potential windfall to good use, and hopefully turn it into more....
but I'm still going to have to work and hustle every day.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Hey AZ... there's always the Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda
... and propaganda abounds...
I'm just going to sit back and pay attention, maybe I can learn something for the next big stock...
although this one is breakin all the rules and patterns.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Oh, im not looking at a million dollars or anything, im sitting there in 1) depending on what "many shares" means
 
Posted by a surfer on :
 
Its just another mans perspective.. and thank God we all have one. Just a case of the "uuhh you no what I think". Where is Buds update Tonight!!!He knows all
 
Posted by RyanPBF on :
 
why would the TA say the float was around 23 million if there was dillution going on. Wouldn't the float increase?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cool AZ:
Look, you're in this stock for the hard information presented so far. If you want to imagine things, then you could probably come up with many more scenarios.

The ihub poster said it was only their theory. Shorty apparantly wasn't even a consideration in that post. I'm staying long and strong!

Well, actually i considered shorty in on this as well. Its a perfect explaination for the odd number in float. Heck, Rufus himself is shouting at shorty because hes a target we created while we were "imagining things".

Dont get me wrong, im here to see this through. But, that doesnt mean im just going to ignore possibilities that come along. Im not sure ignoring specualtion completely is the best way to play this game, but hey im new at this.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Its just another mans perspective.. and thank God we all have one. Just a case of the "uuhh you no what I think". Where is Buds update Tonight!!!He knows all

Bud kinda lost some credibility last night i believe.

Anyway, im only discussing this theory here because its impossible to someplace else (Ihub for example). I agree with dog, im here learning some crazy stuff and if i attempt a close minded approach i wont learn a thing.
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
glassman or tex (or both),
can you comment on the PIPEs statement from ihub posted above?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RyanPBF:
why would the TA say the float was around 23 million if there was dillution going on. Wouldn't the float increase?

Ryan, i believe the TA questions are what keeps this theory on the backburner. Ive heard a lot of different results from the TA though. Did you or someone you know personally call the TA? That would be helpful
 
Posted by dog on :
 
F*** IT. Let it ride. People miss opportunities in life because they get scared at the last second. AZ is right. We are here at this point in time due to the hard DD (as hard as we can get from what is given to us).

I plan to fail as many times in this life as I can. Learn from each experience, then move on...
Never look back...
 
Posted by portman on :
 
MTP are you asking what a PIPE is or if they exist for FHAL?
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Okie......F*** IT. [Smile]

Ashleys eh? Im in
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
If you ask me the pipes are a moot issue. They would have come out as freely tradeable shares anyhow as the 8k released all restrictions on fhal share holders. All meaning pipes as well.

The conspiracy theory (per kapone on HSM) is that Rufus bought all of them out before announcing the merger and has sold into the run up to the merger to make a ton of money for himself or cvsu. Whether it is plausible or not or legal to do or not I do not know.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
That away Cat!
Makes this experience much more enjoyable....
I think the frustration here led to last nights debauchery...
Same stock... one more day, maybe more
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CatiaEngineer:
quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:
Its just another mans perspective.. and thank God we all have one. Just a case of the "uuhh you no what I think". Where is Buds update Tonight!!!He knows all

Bud kinda lost some credibility last night i believe.

Anyway, im only discussing this theory here because its impossible to someplace else (Ihub for example). I agree with dog, im here learning some crazy stuff and if i attempt a close minded approach i wont learn a thing.

Bud lost ALL credibility last night, and amazingly he's nowhere to be found tonight ! lol, I'm in this with 5K shares, and I would love to see that $15. But C'mon guys, use your brains, there has been way too much nonsense being thrown around not only by the bashers, but also by the pumpers - and 'Rufus' himself. Why do I hold ? At this point pure and absolute entertainment. Reading Ihub and here has become downright comical!

I did sell 5k shares for a small profit, but I figure I'll hold these for fun. I really feel sorry for people who invested a lot of money above $1, although who knows they may hit big !

I think next week will start a whole new round of excuses...

Tomorrow we will probably see a sell off to .75, people's patience with this is getting very thin.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Catia, negative items are not always bad in a place like this where people know how to discuss them. It's pretty clear you are not a basher and brought it up for discussion. TY and GLTY
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
That away Cat!
Makes this experience much more enjoyable....
I think the frustration here led to last nights debauchery...
Same stock... one more day, maybe more

debauchery? I got drunk and enjoyed it! No need to label it. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
If you ask me the pipes are a moot issue. They would have come out as freely tradeable shares anyhow as the 8k released all restrictions on fhal share holders. All meaning pipes as well.

The conspiracy theory (per kapone on HSM) is that Rufus bought all of them out before announcing the merger and has sold into the run up to the merger to make a ton of money for himself or cvsu. Whether it is plausible or not or legal to do or not I do not know.

If that's true then the man is a criminal mastermind aka Lex Luthor... But karma is a ***** and if you have ripped off that many people I don't care how much money you have, it will come back at you. Just look at how much fun Ken Lay is having with all the money he made.
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
smelly I am curious did you buy the 5k for the entertainment value or is that just a way to offically disengage yourself from being "a believer" in case it tanks? Kind of sounds like it, but i dont really care.


The worst case scenario is that all the extra 96 million adds to the total for some ~250 million true outstanding after the merger. With that in mind if what they say is true about aiss and the lottery then the price should be able to support the price somewhere higher than it is now. If aiss is a scam, and it's hard to see that from the board members, then it wont support a price higher than it is.

As usual this is simply nothing more than a roll of the dice.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
ok... pleasantly tipsy
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sceptor:
smelly I am curious did you buy the 5k for the entertainment value or is that just a way to offically disengage yourself from being "a believer" in case it tanks? Kind of sounds like it, but i dont really care.


The worst case scenario is that all the extra 96 million adds to the total for some ~250 million true outstanding after the merger. With that in mind if what they say is true about aiss and the lottery then the price should be able to support the price somewhere higher than it is now. If aiss is a scam, and it's hard to see that from the board members, then it wont support a price higher than it is.

As usual this is simply nothing more than a roll of the dice.

I bought for these reasons...if it tanks I only lose a few grand...big deal. If it hits I make 60K, bigger deal ! But this has been a heck of an entertaining ride you have to admit !
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
I don't believe this is a scam, I just have my doubts as to whether or not it can be successfully pulled off as stated by Rufus.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
True... this passage is full of potholes..
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
Last night was definately a nice release. I was well overdue. [Smile]

Im actually part of a 4 guy group, initially tallying in around 35000 shares....average pps around .10

I actually kinda got the other 3 hyped about fhal during the amazon log deal discussions. I guess i can consider myself very lucky because (i believe) all 4 of us have sold a SMALL chunk of our shares...covering inital investments or more. Im guessing, as a group, we are still around 30k shares. I cant speak for the other guys but personally ive already benefited from this win or lose. If its win though, there is going to be one heck of a party.
 
Posted by sceptor on :
 
I dont think it's a scam but I do have issues with the delay as everyone has. the past few days it has benn technical difficulties in getting the ticker and cusip, before that it was s&p that was the problem.

valid problems to be sure, but still a way to afford time, if Rufus really is related to rex luther. Still it doesnt really matter because the pipes would have been put into the 10k watering down the float regardless of where the money has gone to. They have always been there.
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Something always delays mergers. They never go as planned and we rarely get to buy and sell perfectly at the top and bottom.

I am pretty sure we will get something but like XKEM I hedged my final investment. It does wonders for your nerves.

Then again so does The Macallan...speaking of which...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
Kapone is one of the investors that dumped everything during the m n 1 interview. Openly stated he made off with 180K in Paltalk right after. [Mad] I think he has realized he has till Friday to get back in and is trying to get this thing to drop so he can get a better price. How better to accomplish this than to scare everyone out of their shares in the eleventh hour.

I have a vice grip on my slips. [Big Grin]

GLTA,
TB
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
And the plot thickens..............


[Smile]
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
It's often the subtle things that give rise to doubt where it should only give rise to possibly more research. All solid dd so far points to a excellent result. Look into things more .. yes, let relatively unknown people upset the cart with conjecture .. No!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
My conection went down earlier...just got everything back up and running...in regards to Cat's post from Ihub and the "PIPE" thing? Have you guys seen the volume of this? pretty "little" for something that is supposably being diluted...and perhaps Rufas was aware of this...and that is one of the reasons he decided to buy up a large portion of the float...and since "rufas" is the "owner" and CEO...he "can't" sell the stock...if he owned any of it..and he has to file certain paperwork..right? anyone that "owns" more than 5% of company stock have to file with the SEC...

Sorry..the IHUB post IMO is someone speculating..and I don't agree with his speculation...
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I'm holding all the way through!! Its well worth the chance with what I've invested.

Good luck to all.

10, you going swimming again tonight!? [Wink]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Every chance I can Moneyx3!
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by maumee river rat:
Chit 10!!

We be neighbors!!!

There goes the neighborhood!! [Eek!] [Eek!]

I thought that you were in South Toldeo! Man...now I need to start lockin' the doors! [Razz] [Wink]
 
Posted by silver2gold on :
 
remember the first delay last week, rufus said they had a problem with fronthaul shares. He said we need to straighten out who gets shares and who don't. I think some or most of these delays were unexpected and if I have to wait for them to get it right thats better than having a problem later. After all the DD we all did on this stock it just amazing that some people still think this might be a scam.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
"After all the DD we all did on this stock . . . "

[Confused]
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by portman:
MTP are you asking what a PIPE is or if they exist for FHAL?

Portman,
Sorry, I had stepped out. Since you asked, I will say that I am not familiar with PIPEs which doesn't help me when trying to understand the theory put forth in the post from iHub and whether it makes sense or not. I was wondering if someone with glassman's or tex's experience could elaborate on PIPE's and whether the theory presented is worth belaboring. I've read some of the posts here but I can't decipher how much experience is backing up some of the responses. Just looking for a good answer.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
If any of this were true, would not have someone else been able to corroberate or prove it? At least with the info available to us . . . so far no real facts to diverge from initial plan.... hold.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Look.. I'm more speculative about the promise of 15$ shares, not whether this is eventually going down. What's up in the air is the price at which I feel comfortable selling at above the .99 I spent on this stock. No smoking gun that I have seen to kill the merger, only mystery is the actual finances, a.k.a. the 10K. I wish the bashers would quit at least until they get a chance to bash the 10K.
Next thing you know these guys will be releasing the list of the men on the grassy knoll.
 
Posted by CatiaEngineer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dog:
Look.. I'm more speculative about the promise of 15$ shares, not whether this is eventually going down. What's up in the air is the price at which I feel comfortable selling at above the .99 I spent on this stock. No smoking gun that I have seen to kill the merger, only mystery is the actual finances, a.k.a. the 10K. I wish the bashers would quit at least until they get a chance to bash the 10K.
Next thing you know these guys will be releasing the list of the men on the grassy knoll.

There is no list.....just one man

[Razz]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Mr. Cheney?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Damn... now I'm on the grid!
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MTPromises:
quote:
Originally posted by portman:
MTP are you asking what a PIPE is or if they exist for FHAL?

Portman,
Sorry, I had stepped out. Since you asked, I will say that I am not familiar with PIPEs which doesn't help me when trying to understand the theory put forth in the post from iHub and whether it makes sense or not. I was wondering if someone with glassman's or tex's experience could elaborate on PIPE's and whether the theory presented is worth belaboring. I've read some of the posts here but I can't decipher how much experience is backing up some of the responses. Just looking for a good answer.

sorry, have missed a lot; not up to date on the i-hub/PIPE angle. However, i would assume Mr. Harris to have more than passing familiarity with PIPEs. Here's one link for some background:

http://www.shorelinepacific.com/pressroom/pipe_dreams_01232001.html
 
Posted by portman on :
 
Dog...Tex's article is excellent. TY Tex.

I am not a fan of the PIPE. I am not sure it has any real impact at this point and time for FHAL.

At this time I have no inclination to sell. I am not looking for $15/shr.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Uhh.damn. Nice Tex.
So if anyone was really planning to exploit PIPES in Fronthaul, would it not benefit them to allow shorters to drive the price down? So in effect by holding the price above a dollar would not benefit the PIPES benefactors. Rufus has repeatedly urged the shareholders to retain the stock and spoke threateningly to anyone attempting to cast doubt or panic to FHAL.
So he's either a great actor, or for real (at least with the scenario presented in the question at hand.)
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Plus the volumes traded would prohibit a large infiltration of PIPES stock . . you think the volumes would have to be higher.

It's too late to be thinking about this.... but this week sure has taught me a few things.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
does this help with the Pipes?



The Furia Organization, Inc.
2233 Ridge Road, Suite 102
Rockwell, Texas 75087
Telephone: (972) 722-9999
Facsimile: (972) 722-9998

March 23, 2006

United States Securities and Exchange Commission
450 Fifth Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20549


Re:

The Furia Organization, Inc. (the “Company”)
Withdrawal of Registration Statement on Form SB-2
(SEC File No. 333-130532)

Ladies and Gentlemen:

In accordance with Rule 477 of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended (the “Act”), this letter shall serve as our application to withdraw the aforementioned Registration Statement. The Registration Statement was filed pursuant to a Registration Rights Agreement between the Company and the selling shareholders listed in the Registration Statement (the “Selling Shareholders”). The Company intends on redeeming the convertible notes, issued to the Selling Shareholders and therefore, there is no need to register the shares underlying the convertible notes. The Company further advises the Commission that no shares of common stock sought to be registered pursuant to the Registration Statement have been sold or offered.

The Company may undertake a subsequent private offering in reliance of Rule 155(c) of the Act.

If you need anything further, please feel free to contact the undersigned.


Very truly yours,

/s/ Michael Alexander

Michael Alexander
President / C

http://www.nasdaq.com/asp/quotes_sec.asp?mode=&kind=&symbol=STTC&symbol=FHAL&sym bol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&FormType=&mkttype=& pathname=&page=filings&selected=FHAL
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Unless they are keeping this stock trading until Rufus "figures out who gets how much stock" and tomorrow we see a flood of 5 million shares!

Wait... the names of the men on the grassy knoll are coming to me......... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Nice Glass.....
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
this as well:


Filing Date: 5/12/2006 Form Type: 10QSB

ITEM 3. DEFAULTS UPON SENIOR SECURITIES

The Callable Secured Convertible Note agreement prohibits the Company, without prior written consent, from redeeming, repurchasing or otherwise acquiring any shares of its capital stock. As of December 31, 2005, the Company had opened a brokerage account in which it had reacquired 1,962,000 shares of its common stock for a total consideration of $376,019. During the quarter ended March 31, 2006, the Company acquired 818,405 shares for a total consideration of $243,554.43 and transferred 1,650,000 shares valued at $413,500 for consulting services. At March 31, 2006 the balance of its common stock owned by the Company was 1,130,405 shares valued at $306,222.

The breach of this loan covenant triggers the default provisions of the loan agreement which make the loan immediately due plus a default penalty equal to 30% of the then outstanding loan plus any accrued and unpaid interest on the loan.

Due to this breach of the loan agreement, the loans are reclassified as current and a default penalty of $528,288 was accrued.


these guys APPEAR to me to have cleaned the shell up a lot...

however? i am NOT an auditor...

there are almost always some "stray shares" around...

the shell was already pretty tighly held... over 60% by Alexander....
you don't find very many that tightly held...

that's why they chose this co IMO...

the deal could still fall thru tho....
anything can happen till its closed....
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
wow...nice find
 
Posted by dog on :
 
So if this went down like the paranoids say... somebody would be gettin a close new friend named Bubba?
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Or atleast be held financially responsible... I'd hope.
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
"that's why they chose this co IMO..."

that default provision kinda makes me wonder who was courting whom....
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
this is from the Filing Date: 4/13/2006 Form Type: DEF 14C

Filing Date: 4/13/2006 Form Type: DEF 14C
Name and Address of Beneficial Owner
Amount and Nature of
Beneficial Ownership
Percent of Class (1)
Michael D. Alexander, Chief Executive Officer (1)2233 Ridge Road, Suite 102
Rockwell, Texas 75087
75,154,780 78.1%
Randy Moseley, Chief Financial Officer (2)

2233 Ridge Road, Suite 102
Rockwell, Texas 75087Beijing, China 101101
300,000 .04%
All Officers and directors as a group (two persons)
75,454,780 78.1%


Includes 50,000,000 shares of common stock that Mr. Alexander has the right to acquire underthe terms of the purchase agreement between Furia and Fronthaul, Inc.

(2) These shares vest in annual increments of 100,000 beginning December 12, 2006.


the 50 million doesn't start distributing till December 12, 2006? that still hasn't gotten here yet....

i really can't say when was the last time i've seen a publicly traded co with 78% of the shares held this tightly....

the float needed to be worked over... that's what Rufus has been doing IMO...

but hey? i've seen counterfeit shares being sold on the market, so what do i know about the share you have?

yes TEX, that is an interesting default isn't it...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Glass..help me out here..this is appearing to be good? Alexander already had "bought" these shares back? Is that what I am understanding?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
the picture I get? somebody has been wearing her/his thinking cap, for quite some time...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
the picture I get? somebody has been wearing her/his thinking cap, for quite some time...

LOL..OK no riddles...
pretend I am in 4th grade...please explain teacher? I think I get the "picture"...I'm just wondering if I need to put on some glasses...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Glass..help me out here..this is appearing to be good? Alexander already had "bought" these shares back? Is that what I am understanding?

10...

i can't be positive...

i have been fascinated with this from day one...

porabably lost a couple friends over it..

this looks like the kind of shell RMers would want..
the deal has short written all over it IMO...
the transfer agent has got to be correct..

the float is what the transfer agent says it is...

there are warrants that can't be exersized... i have never been able to figure out wht happened to them....

the stock was never withdrawn to fund the warrants...
some people are mad somewhere:

In connection with the Securities Purchase Agreement dated November 18, 2005, we granted the investors registration rights. Pursuant to the registration rights agreement, if we did not file the registration statement by December 18, 2005, or if we did not have the registration statement declared effective on or before March 16, 2006, we are obligated to pay liquidated damages in the amount of 2.0% per month of the face amount of the issued and outstanding secured convertible notes, which equals $35,000, until the registration statement is declared effective. At our option, these liquidated damages can be paid in cash or restricted shares of our common ...blah blah

get the drift here? loans made never paid off?
several of them...

now? i've seen this before....

it's done frequently to tranfer assets between shells to avoid taxes...
you loan people money ? they default? you don't seek restitution cuz you didn't "want" the money anyway...are we on the same page yet?

there may be no problems at all because someone had a big advantage in LOSING this money... i just don't have access to all the data i need to make a fully informed opinion....
AND?

As of the date hereof, the investors have not demanded payment of the liquidated damages and we have not determined if we will make such liquidated damages payments in cash, stock or a combination of both.


they never did....
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
the picture I get? somebody has been wearing her/his thinking cap, for quite some time...

LOL..OK no riddles...
pretend I am in 4th grade...please explain teacher? I think I get the "picture"...I'm just wondering if I need to put on some glasses...

lol, no riddles...am "thinking" in print...

have never been able to dig into this to the level I would like...

The question that pops up for me? Do we know about Alexander's "buying power," ie, company coffers, his personal juice, etc... I was under the impression his crowd was strapped to this more or less bankrupt "shell." SO: Where'd the dough come from for the buybacks through that trading account?
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Glass...none of us can ever be postitve...
and I know that you've been given and "unjustified" hard time for taking an opinion that was different than others...but friends should "agree to disagree"...

Thanks for the opinion...it's what I was "seeing"...but sometimes you need others to say...yeah..that's what I read...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Is this by any chance one of CVSU's companies that did the "loan?"
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
kinda sorta back to PIPES...

such investors' names are not public, either--right?

be nice to know lendee/lendor...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
well? 78% of the shares of the company were already accounted for before Rufus started talking...

Rufus may not have expected the short action he got....

if i was him? too many of the wrong people shorting against me would make me worry about the long term strength of the deal....

he might be doing somebody a favor by slowing down the process alittle...

i clearly heard him say that he would give the shorts a chance to buy back in one of those interviews...

i am not posting a buy or sell here...just trying to point out a few "discrepancies" that the "bashers" have been posting....
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Is this by any chance one of CVSU's companies that did the "loan?"

[Eek!]

lol, we're triangulating...

what I meant about thinking cap? this is *not* a deal that "just fell together" . . .
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
what I meant about thinking cap? this is *not* a deal that "just fell together" . . .


absolute agreement here....

for instance?
i've seen families transfer timber rights back and forth amongst themselves to keep from paying estate taxes in this way
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Tex...LOL..have to cover every possible question...in order to answer the riddle... [Wink]
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Hmmm
I guess I don't need to put my glasses on...Still not overly "confident" but it just seems to get more positve...with each new discovery...
Allstocks is great!
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
the bashers lying is what really cracks me up....

so many of 'em doing it too...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
Tex...LOL..have to cover every possible question...in order to answer the riddle... [Wink]

you mean me? or you?

me for sure...

well, not for any given trade...but these deals? I think it's important to understand these "anomalies"--two birds/one stone as far as research goes...

********

As I recall, the "ousted" FHAL folk did get some nice blocks of the ongoing shares, right?

So....they're prolly fairly well up to speed on the overall plan(s), wouldn't you guess? I mean, more so than typical r/m, in which former owners are just gone... or keep a few "do or die" shares... ????
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Both Tex...and this one is a little "longer" term than i am use to "playin'" I stayed for the learning experience...It seems to be a one of a kind "deal" (RM)...if I had bailed..I wouldn't have followed as close...

Yes Glass...the bashers are unreal...I started to read a little more over at the IHUB...Holy Cow!
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
"i clearly heard him say that he would give the shorts a chance to buy back in one of those interviews..."


Ouch, thats admitted stock manipulation by a CEO..Right?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
you a lawyer dustoff?

the wise guys run everything anymore....


Filing Date: 5/12/2006 Form Type: 10QSB
The 2,780,405 shares repurchased by the Company from December 2005 to March 31, 2006 were purchased in open-market transactions



this open market buyback casued them to default on aloan...they did it on purpose....
who does that?

stock manipulation is being done by everybody that posts a pick.....the only reason to post a pick is to get soemeone to buy or sell...
every paid pr is the same...
 
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
 
I am pretty satisfied with your explainations Glass and Tex. I agree that these deals do not just happen, usually they are inside to some extent. All I was posting earlier was my distrust in Kapone who I do not pretend to know, but seems to have some funds and an extra step on everyone else. I don't think it is time for us to help him by hurting ourselves.

I went out to kick off "Fantasy Football" season with some of my buddies tonight, but got back in time to see all your hard work. Great samples earlier Glass, and excellent explainations both of you. I hope we do not have a flurry of longs dump tomorrow based on this one person's perspective or as I stated as my opinion his agenda.

Thanks again, it seems that i h ub, r b, p a l t a l k and allstocks are pretty aware of what is happening on this stock and I think your words... I hope your words... made it out to the masses before open tomorrow. [Smile]

TB
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
you a lawyer dustoff?

the wise guys run everything anymore....


Filing Date: 5/12/2006 Form Type: 10QSB
The 2,780,405 shares repurchased by the Company from December 2005 to March 31, 2006 were purchased in open-market transactions



this open market buyback casued them to default on aloan...they did it on purpose....
who does that?

stock manipulation is being done by everybody that posts a pick.....the only reason to post a pick is to get soemeone to buy or sell...
every paid pr is the same...

------------------------------------------------
Do you really mean what you have stated in this post?
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
Dusty, i take this as simple posturing on the CEO's part: "he would give the shorts a chance to buy back . . ." My crow's the blackest...

Glass, I disagree with "everybody that posts a pick" : the idea is to post stuff to alert to the "possibility" of a good play... if others twist it into something different, that's their problem...

TaxBack, sorry to say, am not familiar with "Kapone" or his message...me? I'm still simply trying to figger it out...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
Do you really mean what you have stated in this post?

duh?

show me the legalese saying Rufus couldn't say this?...

you keep making odd accusations to me dustoff....

quite frankly? i don't know why you came down here to bother me either...

go back up to STTC....

did you notice they have diluted?
WEIGHTED AVERAGE NUMBER OF COMMON


SHARES OUTSTANDING
367,397,469MARCH 31, 2006 from

265,174,636 MARCH 31 2005
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Hey ya'll, I just got off work and not much time for DD can someone point me to a particular post of what's going on... something about a defulted loan??? or can someone sum it up... just point me in the right direction. Thanks
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
"i clearly heard him say that he would give the shorts a chance to buy back in one of those interviews..."


Ouch, thats admitted stock manipulation by a CEO..Right?

How would that be a form of "stock manipulation by a CEO?"
Because he is giving some shorts a chance? I would think that manipulation would be a gain for ones self...

I don't see that...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
it's old news...

nothing going on..just waiting and tryuing to figure out why the bashers are so wound up...

they keep coming up with lies...

i've seen "bashers" that had their facts straight..
these guys don't...

of course? there aren't alot of facts straight on the pumpers side either...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent:
Hey ya'll, I just got off work and not much time for DD can someone point me to a particular post of what's going on... something about a defulted loan??? or can someone sum it up... just point me in the right direction. Thanks

Maybe start in the middle of page 230...with TEx's link to PIPES...
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Do you really mean what you have stated in this post?

duh?

show me the legalese saying Rufus couldn't say this?...

you keep making odd accusations to me dustoff....

quite frankly? i don't know why you came down here to bother me either...

go back up to STTC....

did you notice they have diluted?
WEIGHTED AVERAGE NUMBER OF COMMON


SHARES OUTSTANDING
367,397,469MARCH 31, 2006 from

265,174,636 MARCH 31 2005

------------------------------------------------
What on earth are you doing glassman?

1ST--Sense when do posters have to be a Lawyer to to ask questions about a stock and then be attacked by a moderator for doing so..

2ND-- as I have told you time an time again I will not play ball by just going along with the crowd..

3RD--You have a deep seated bias towards me that is apparent to any thinking person..

4th--Your performance tonight towards me is extremely disturbing..
You owe this board an apology.
 
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
 
Thanks 10
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
where does it say Rufus is CEO of FHAL? when they file the proper paperwork? he will be...

CVSU, Rufus Paul Harris, CVSU's Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President, and certain of CVSU's other executive officers may be deemed to be participants in the solicitation of Investors of FHAL stockholders in connection with the proposed merger. Investors and security holders may obtain more detailed information regarding the names, affiliations and interests of Mr. Harris and certain of CVSU's other executive officers in the solicitation by reading the prospectus statement when it becomes available.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 

3RD--You have a deep seated bias towards me that is apparent to any thinking person..

4th--Your performance tonight towards me is extremely disturbing..
You owe this board an apology.


LOL...

i think everybody was wondering what you were up to the other night too....

i don't owe anybody an apology...

we all know the game dustoff...

there isn't a stock in the world that can't be bashed...

secondly?

i did some searches... PG never disclosed that i was a moderator...

you did... all by yourself...

it's very easy to search these boards dustoff...
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:

3RD--You have a deep seated bias towards me that is apparent to any thinking person..

4th--Your performance tonight towards me is extremely disturbing..
You owe this board an apology.


LOL...

i think everybody was wondering what you were up to the other night too....

i don't owe anybody an apology...

-------------------------------------------------
Well well, now we know..
It would appear you are using Allstocks as a High School popularity contest..
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
dustoff? i will not be deleting any of your childish rants for you tonight or ever again...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
LOL..forget the PM..I guess i just figured it out...that's kinda sad...(the second portion...)
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
"I would think that manipulation would be a gain for ones self..."

well...it *would* be to his gain for the pps to rise; the issue is (1) does his statement demonstrate the "power" to actually "give shorts" anything? As I read it? No...obviously: the market says no...at least, so far; (2) Is the statement in reference to the "powers of 368"? If so...just dumb: Glass has already pointed out the obvious solution for shorters re any temporary $15 level

(3) Now, *IF* Rufus/the company dumps shares during a "reset to to $15-level* ? clearly, a case can be made...
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Do you really mean what you have stated in this post?

duh?

show me the legalese saying Rufus couldn't say this?...

you keep making odd accusations to me dustoff....

quite frankly? i don't know why you came down here to bother me either...

go back up to STTC....

did you notice they have diluted?
WEIGHTED AVERAGE NUMBER OF COMMON


SHARES OUTSTANDING
367,397,469MARCH 31, 2006 from

265,174,636 MARCH 31 2005

------------------------------------------------
What on earth are you doing glassman?

1ST--Sense when do posters have to be a Lawyer to to ask questions about a stock and then be attacked by a moderator for doing so..

2ND-- as I have told you time an time again I will not play ball by just going along with the crowd..

3RD--You have a deep seated bias towards me that is apparent to any thinking person..

4th--Your performance tonight towards me is extremely disturbing..
You owe this board an apology.

------------------------------------------------
You are dodging 1 and 2..

In the STTC I called the dilution before it came..

If you are going to use these cheap shot basher technics atleast back it up with proof..

About the other night..
Readers glassman went off on me first, I mearly defended myself..

Most of the exchange was deleted by glassman..
Getting the picture here?
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
what's sad? i've been moderating here for two years...

i didn't want anybody to know because moderators were respected when i was recruited..i didn't want people to follow my pick because my name was at the top of the board....

dustoff and PG are the only people i ever told...

and dustoff had to act like a baby and tell everybody.. sad...
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
yes...I agree there Tex..IF they do that...but I didn't view the "...giving shorts time to cover..." as manipulation...
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
About the other night..
Readers glassman went off on me first, I mearly defended myself..

LOL....
digging in?

you don't want to do that....

the posts i'm talking about are not deleted...
they are left clearly on the free-for-all...

the ones deleted could have gotten you banned for calling me names...
 
Posted by T e x on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 10of13:
yes...I agree there Tex..IF they do that...but I didn't view the "...giving shorts time to cover..." as manipulation...

boasting, posturing, whatever...
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
what's sad? i've been moderating here for two years...

i didn't want anybody to know because moderators were respected when i was recruited..i didn't want people to follow my pick because my name was at the top of the board....

dustoff and PG are the only people i ever told...

and dustoff had to act like a baby and tell everybody.. sad...

-------------------------------------------------
Readers, I ask you this how many knew glassman was a moderator?

It was posted that Tex and glassman were moderators before..

Glassman is in a corner and just covering..
Check this out..

-----------------------------------------------
posted by Dustoff on the STTC thread..
posted June 27, 2006 11:33
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Shiced, is that a word? Anywho, Me is beginning to smell a rat...And it better not be named dilution...Arrgggg, grrrrrr
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
dustoff? are you OK? all you have to do is run a damn search for the word and you get all the hits...

you are effing up again bad....
it's not like i even care anymore...

i DO NOT POST PICKS i just try to help...

in a corner i am in a corner? sheeyit
 
Posted by cool AZ on :
 
I found this on ihub:


Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Posts: 4

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject:


news!!! new symbol tomorrow. per rufus

3rd hand rumor from new board
http://www.fhalboard.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2


This is what the link says:


gam007


i was able to Rufus like an hour or so ago

believe if you wish or not
he said we would have a symbol change tomorrow.

no time, just that.

i hope it is true, we will see
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Dust?
I am confused? I am not sure what is going on...and maybe this post will be deleted..but...the night after Purl left...you and glass "were" going at it...and then a handful of times since then i read in posts the 2 of you doing it again...

here on this thread...I've been here all night...and I haven't seen any posts disappear...but is seems as if you "picked" a fight...and I can't see why...at least not here and now..on this thread...

Yes...it's sad that 2 friends "fight" because they disagree...

What I see here is glass...defending himself...
 
Posted by MTPromises on :
 
the ground work for a merger began awhile back according to this DEF 14C filing from 7/28/2004 that dealt with a R/S:

This information statement is also being mailed to the shareholders of The Furia Organization, Inc in connection with a proposed action by written consent to authorize and approve:
1. An amendment of its Certificate of Incorporation which:
o reverse splits the outstanding shares of its common stock one-for-five;
o changes the number of shares of common stock the Company is authorized to issue to 200,000,000 par value $.001.
The amendment our Certificate of Incorporation is being made because Management is of the opinion that it will better position the Company to effectuate a merger with, or acquisition of, a viable business entity. While, Management has, from time to time, engaged in discussions with potential acquisition candidates, no formal agreements have been entered into regarding any merger or acquisition.

. . . The shares of Common Stock are the only class of voting securities currently outstanding. The Company is authorized to issue 200,000,000 shares of Common Stock $.0001 par value. Each share of Common Stock is entitled to one vote per share on all matters submitted to a vote of the shareholders. As of July 2, 2004, the Company had 43,714,209 shares of Common Stock outstanding, which is the same number of votes this class is entitled to cast. The Company has no significant assets and is a "shell" company with no operations. Moreover, the "bid" and "ask" prices for the Common Stock of the Company are not quoted in any established market and the Common Shares trade sporadically.

. . . The Company's Common Shares have not actively traded for several years. Moreover, no bid or ask prices have been quoted for a like period. Resultantly, no established market for the common stock has existed for several years. During that period, we have, from time to time, engaged in discussions with potential acquisition or reverse merger candidates. In almost every instance, concerns were raised over the number of common shares issued and outstanding and the potential impact on the future price of the Company's common stock should we successfully effectuate an acquisition or a reverse merger.

PRE-REVERSE SPLIT POST-REVERSE SPLIT
----------------- ------------------
Number of issued and outstanding shares of
common stock 43,714,209 8,742,842

Number of shares of common stock reserved for
issuance 0 0

Number of authorized but unissued and
unreserved shares of common stock 156,285,791 191,257,158
----------- -----------

Total 200,000,000 200,000,000
=========== ===========


http://pro.edgar-online.com/EFX_dll/EDGARpro.dll?FetchFilingRTF1?ID=3088226&Sess ionID=wOAyvRbeI_KmwFV
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
dustoff? are you OK? all you have to do is run a damn search for the word and you get all the hits...

you are effing up again bad....
it's not like i even care anymore...

i DO NOT POST PICKS i just try to help...

in a corner i am in a corner? sheeyit

------------------------------------------------
"run a damn search for the word and you get all the hits"...
Not when things dissapear..

For your sake glassman and the good of allstocks I will refrain from laying it all out there..

But I advise you I am very close to doing so..

Ban me now? your gonna have some 'splaining to do.
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Look.. may I'm too simple to see it this way... but I don't think that there is anything more going on than painting a favorable picture to the SEC. The origin of the loan does not seem as important as to how the financial landscape looks for each of these companies:

Fronthaul, as a company, is completely defunct and bankrupt with a structure that showed one man as owner of 70% company stock. CVSU wants to become public thru this shell and has to resolve this guy's shares, but they sure as hell are not going to give him 70% of the billion-dollar CVSU combined company! As Rufus said "we have to figure out who gets and how many" shares this guy gets before it can even be started. This was already negotiated. FHAL defaulted on the loan to do it which served 2 purposes:
1) Cleared out the private stock owner
2) Further demonstrates how bad the financial situation of FHAL is.

Lo! Here comes CVSU, the savior to the rescue of this wreck of a company, and they can even pay the loan back.

Would not this be favorable for the allowance of this merger?
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
"i clearly heard him say that he would give the shorts a chance to buy back in one of those interviews..."


Ouch, thats admitted stock manipulation by a CEO..Right?

-------------------------------------------------
10, this is picking a fight?
Look at his immediate response..Now be honest who's picking a fight..

That is a question!
 
Posted by dog on :
 
Fellas... what's business...and what's personal?

None of us really knows eachother personally, so let's just stick to business.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
dustoff? are you OK? all you have to do is run a damn search for the word and you get all the hits...

you are effing up again bad....
it's not like i even care anymore...

i DO NOT POST PICKS i just try to help...

in a corner i am in a corner? sheeyit

------------------------------------------------
"run a damn search for the word and you get all the hits"...
Not when things dissapear..

For your sake glassman and the good of allstocks I will refrain from laying it all out there..

But I advise you I am very close to doing so..

Ban me now? your gonna have some 'splaining to do.

nothing disappeared dustoff...
you came here looking for a "round"...
i cleaned up YOUR mess last time in off-topic...
this time? Bob will get every word unless soembody else cleans it up before i LOG it...

there is nothing to lay out there...
 
Posted by dog on :
 
get some sleep fellas... g'nite
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
glassman, quit messing with my posts...After the fact, you state "cleaning up a mess" that no one can judge..

Are you sure the exchange the other night is not logged?

Would you like our courts to operate in such a manner?

Now do you understand my statement " lay it all out there " I was reffering to that exchange..

Frankly it was you who attacked first, and made a fool outa your self, I retaliated just like you knew I would.. The proof is in the exchange you deleted.

Any reasonable person can see you did the same here tonight.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
glassman, quit messing with my posts...After the fact, you state "cleaning up a mess" that no one can judge..

Are you sure the exchange the other night is not logged?

Would you like our courts to operate in such a manner?

i hope they are all logged somewhere dustoff...

you are embarassing yourself...


you asked your question in an acusatory manner, just as you have done the last three time you have come into the conversation and responded to me... no-one else..just me...? you have your answer... a CEO can talk about shorts without manipulating his stock...

your responses don't really make sense to me...

you accuse me of dishonesty... that is just laughable. i have nothing to gain or hide..
you accuse me of working on popularity like in High school, yet i argue all the time... do yourself a favor and leave me alone... i have left you alone since you started doing this...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
glassman, quit messing with my posts...After the fact, you state "cleaning up a mess" that no one can judge..

Are you sure the exchange the other night is not logged?

Would you like our courts to operate in such a manner?

Now do you understand my statement " lay it all out there " I was reffering to that exchange..

Frankly it was you who attacked first, and made a fool outa your self, I retaliated just like you knew I would.. The proof is in the exchange you deleted.

Any reasonable person can see you did the same here tonight.

This is really distracting from what this particular board is about. Dust it seems that you have a problem with Glass. Fine but that should be handled in a different forum so that we can continue to attempt to decipher what is happening with FHAL/CVSU.

I'm not taking any sides here just wanting to get back on topic.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
No problem, I do not want anything to do with you..You just do not measure up..

I will feely challange you when warrented, get used to it.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
thanx i apreciate the kind gesture...

 -
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff 1:
No problem, I do not want anything to do with you..You just do not measure up..

I will feely challange you when warrented, get used to it.

Dust...take a deep breath...something is "off"...and I don't think that you can see it...and empty your PM...please...
 
Posted by Dustoff 1 on :
 
down periscope now...me laughing to hard now to see.. [Big Grin]

gimme a minute 10, then fire away.
 
Posted by ruskin_muskin on :
 
meanwhile are my FHAL shares already worth $15???? can i start booking cruise to carribean for early next month?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
OK. After reading back through there are some nice finds here. The default on the loan may have been a catalyst here. Now I remember reading in the 8K that CVSU was assuming FHAL's debt. I believe it was around 1.8M. Could that debt include the repayment of the loan and penalties? Just thinking out loud.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
IMO? the default on the loan was intentional...
 
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
 
Oi Vey ! That's all I have to say about the last two weeks in FHAL.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
that goes double here smelly...

i have had to bit e my tongue so many time at the longs and the shorts....
it would take a short book to clear this up..

Rufus is not CEO of FHAL YET...

FHAL appears to have cnacelled all of the PIPES and convertibles...
it's like mice tho..every time you think you got 'em all nailed down? another one pops up...
and Rufus should feel ten times as frustrated as i do...
since i have very little riding on this...
 
Posted by Stock on :
 
since i started trading pinks for a living, i NEVER held a stock for as long as i held this...i dont know if im being an "investor" or a "bag holder"...Rufus better get this ish straight by tomorrow or at least give us a PR about why he has been so late.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Under the agreement CVSU will consume all obligations of FHAL as filed in the last FHAL 10Q.

here's the 10Q

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename %3D0001297077%252D06%252D000033%252Etxt%26filepath%3D%255C2006%255C05%255C12%255 C&symbol=FHAL
 
Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
Close this thread and start a new one before we lose it. Please.

I will add a link to the new thread you folks start.

New Thread:

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/8/ t/023669.html

[ August 04, 2006, 02:54: Message edited by: Bob Frey ]
 


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