quote:Originally posted by DrWho: And yes, the crew of longs is still hanging out until the end. We still own the float ourselves... everyone else above that is GRAVY!
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Doc, thanks for your honesty in your previous post. If you guys hold, then at least I won't be choking on thin air alone.
But I gotta tell ya, Doc, APOA is really hanging it in the wind with this one. Want me to steer you to FULLY REPORTING OTCBB companies that can be picked up for .0001?
On a side note, tman... better to post the link with anything you post sectionalized. It doesn't tell the whole story if you do that.
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Tick, the 8k is there for all to read. What was posted was taken directly from the 8k. Each section had the section number as well for folks to read themselves. BTW as I said earlier I am long and I dont bash stocks. There are plenty that I could but its useless. The info posted here needs to be seen by all so that they can start to research for themselves what has happened so that they can make an informed decision as to whether they sell, buy more, or hold. Have a nice evening. TMAN...
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He states that he wont post anymore on the board because of all the crap people said after the news. Dont blame him. All he did was give a heads up on news and gets hammered. TMAN...
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quote:Originally posted by tmanfromtexas: Hey ticktrader and Dr. Who, do yall know each other? both of yall are from Wasilla, Alaska. Just wondering? TMAN...
Tman, the Doc is down with Mesa, Arizona. That's too far away for me to open the window and shout.
hey guys, roiresearch has been ghosting current daily activity with previous charts. Didn't you realize this? The similarity has been unnerving - well, until today, which was more like unhinging.
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Hey Tick did you see my question about you and Doc living in the same town in Alaska? that is pretty cool that both of yall are from there. I wish I knew some traders that lived in or around my town of cleveland tx.
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people bashed HIM? sobs... somebody who gets good info, and people bash him. He never said buy buy u will be rich, he just provided info for interested people!
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Maybe I'm just crapping in one hand and wishing in the other (I can tell which feels more real). But I think we should have a turn around tomorrow. Hopefully
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DC17 let the cat out of the bag today. Looking back and using hindsight, he dropped the "restricted" stock quote an hour or two before the PR hit about a stock deal/merger
I do believe (somewhat) that his inside knowledge lead him to great profits. If not, he shouldn't be playing with as much fire as he is posting with. I sensed remorse in his pre 3 o'clock PR warning about potential for a deal in restricted stock.
And as soon as you accuse him of any wrong doing, he writes these heart wrenching posts looking for sympathy. I know people like that. When it's good, they will take all the credit/reward. As soon as the sh!T hits the fan, it's everyone elses' fault. RB is better off w/o DC17 for the time being
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hey guys, roiresearch has been ghosting current daily activity with previous charts. Didn't you realize this? The similarity has been unnerving - well, until today, which was more like unhinging.
geez, roi, you are good at charting. [/QB]
I expect the stock to bounce off of the 50 or 200 SMA tomorrow and then try to stabalize back to the .0008 - .001 level. As soon as the nervous nellies flee, hopefully we can take a crack at .0014 again.
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ya honestly roire, he must have made so much money. its like playing poker and knowing what the other person has. I wish trading was that easy =P
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I read that post too roiresearch and thought of the conversation I had here with Jumpem about how the shares may be structured. Oh well, hopefully things are darkest before the dawn. TMAN...
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i bought in right at the end of day, at .0009. i'm expecting it to gap to .0010x.0011. my sell order is set at .0010. there was so much buying at the end of day, and virtually no selling in that last minute, so i'm thinking it was a big shake for a minute, then it'll gap and fall a little more tomorrow.
either i made a really good decision to buy on the fly, or i made a really bad decision.. less than 9 hours till i get to find out.
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Merger Arbitrage Another of the classic hedge strategies is to buy the stock of a company that is being taken over in a merger, while shorting the stock of the company that is buying them. In this case the details of the merger are known in advance, for instance company A may offer 10 shares of their own stock for every 8 of company B, which they are purchasing. Given the current market values, the dollar amounts of the takeover bid can be calculated, and the spread between current value and the announced takeover value can be calculated. If the current stock price is below the takeover value, the deal is said to be "in the money".
The hedge in this case is to remove the risk that the takeover will fail. For instance if company B rejects the takeover bid, their stock price will typically fall to its original value, or lower. The same however is also true of company A, whose perceived value will drop as a result of failing in their venture. Therefore the hedging opportunity is to purchase shares of company B (if it is in the money), and short the shares of company A. This way some profit will be made in either case, with the spread disappearing and creating a profit on the long position, while in the case of the deal breaking down the losses on the long position will be hedged out by the gains on the short when the shares of company A fall.
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quote:Originally posted by letitrideboy: people bashed HIM? sobs... somebody who gets good info, and people bash him. He never said buy buy u will be rich, he just provided info for interested people!
Thats how it is with money, and why some people here stopped posting picks as much. Everyone wants to be rich last week.
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I just experienced the TWOG merger (made money thank god) this is different-I was worried about this pr today so been reading all the posts here and on RB and believe this is a big shake by MM's and massive shorting go read the crap on RB it will make you want to hold your shares - don't sell - wait - on RB it's so obvious they want you to sell cause they know thier screwed - it's like the old saying "hit dog hollers" I can hold and sell prior to a set date - everything I see shows to wait and weather this until at least more news or until the last moment.
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I sold GWGO today to buy this at .0012...ouch. Anyways, I do not see a reason to sell. If you listen to people on the boards here they are talking about buying tomm. And the MM's have to cover so they are going to be buying.
This is like the captain of a ship saying we have a hole on the boat and then everyone jumped off. No one let him finish and say that it was the size of a pen tip and it is all fixed.
As long as they have to cover and people are looking to buy we are all good.
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Someone on another website board posted this. It seems to make very good sense and organizes my views of things a bit. I will definately hold to see what happens.
We have all speculated on what might happen. Or more aptly...on what we WANT to happen. Here are the facts of this situation.
This is what is called a "Type B Reorganization."
This is a stock for stock exchange. This transaction does not involve a merger. Rather, in this transaction, a disposition of stock by the seller, with the buyer using only its own stock as consideration. The acquiring company (APOA) will exchange solely its voting stock for target company (JPHC) stock held by target company shareholders. The result is the acquiring company owns the stock of the target company, with the target company being a controlled subsidiary corporation.
The acquiring company will be paying the JPHC shareholders a price equal to $.005 per share of JPHC stock in APOA stock. The ratio will vary based on apoa pps. Bottom line is...you will get that valuation.
At some point...very close to May 10, 2006, JPHC share trading will be halted. After that time, ALL shares will be accounted for to determine shareholders of record. All outstanding shares, (shorted shares) will be required to be reconciled by the brokers and market makers handling those shares at the price of $.005 per share. They WILL NOT be able to reconcile those shares with shares of APOA. The shares of APOA will at this point be unregisterd shares, and thus subject to rule 144. I say AT THIS POINT because a final agreemnet has not been disclosed to the public. So based on that, here is something to consider.
The general interpretation of Rule 144, requires a person to hold restricted stock for a continuous period of one year. After one year selling is limited to a % of daily volume during the second year. Year three and beyond...go for it...no restrictions. Now..with that being said, the company CAN apply for an exemption to unrestrict the shares. More than likely that won't happen...but ya never know.
The reason the shares would be restricted is to protect both the company AND the shareholder. To prevent massive dilution, which we all know will cause the pps to crash and burn. It also protects the shareholder from unexpected tax liabilities.
I and many, many others believe there is a massive short position in this stock. Several things we know for sure.
1) We will get $.005 value for each share of JPHC. 2) If shares are shorted...they will have to be covered. 3) If shares are not covered by trading halt, coverage will be at $.005 per share. Market Makers and Brokerage firms are responsible for the covering of shorted shares...they can go after the individuals involved.
Now comes the fun part...and this is all IMO.
As more and more people become aware of this acquisition, and the base value per share, we will see countless bashers and pumpers all trying to make a quick buck. We will see an influx of flippers and day traders as the final days count down. Shorts will be looking for cheap shares to cover...flippers and day traders will be looking for momentum to drive up the pps so they can make a quick buck on the retrace...then they will try it again. As the "day" gets closer...REAL shares will have a premium value to the shorts, as they must account for all transactions with either REAL shares or REAL money. Thus...people holding REAL shares can expect to see a buying frenzy in the final days. Then you see the flippers and day traders once again trying to drive up pps...looking for that one last nickel. This is why so many feel the pps CAN go well above the $.005 price. Bottom line is this. Once shares stop trading...if you hold shares of JPHC...they will be worth $.005 per share of APOA stock.
...play it by ear...you may want to hold and take the buyout...you may want to "squeeze" a little and see just how high the pps can go.
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APOA isnt playing the medical field anymore. if you read the merger announcement they pretty much say they are changing their business plan and are acquiring JPHC for macrosouth....think of it like this. your getting shares of macrosouth =)
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I dont usually post but I will tell you this much, good luck to all who are holding long...I am holding 1,000,000 shares and if it goes down to .0005 I will be a holder of 10,000,000 shares...So F the MM's, I am not worried, and I will put my money where my mouth is, if anything, it will shut me up for those who dont want to hear the sensible decision.........HOLD, HOLD, HOLD, and then we will all thank our decision to hold, hold, hold, while others damn themselves by thinking, SELL, SELL, SELL....If anyone wants to sell to me if it get below .0004 let me know....I will eat them up for ya!
Like a captain, I will sink with the ship or ride with the tide....For some reason I think the longs will ride with the tide.....
P.S. Come on MM's leave it alone and let it ride ;-)
quote:Originally posted by yolkarmy: what scares me most is the lack of volume in trades.. if i knew i could get rid of my shares i'd be sleeping well.
Maybe its lack of trades is a good thing. I mean, look at all the crazy pumps that exist, and notice that they're sitting at next-to-no volume for the previous days or weeks. Maybe all the excitement that comes with this acquisition will cause the parent stock to sky-rocket for some reason, and then we'll all be huge winners, albeit a year or 2 from now when we'd be able to sell.
I think today's EOD move was a MM tactic, and I think it'll come right back up very soon, as people get a grip on what the reality is here. It was a panic sell, IMO. People who hadn't read the news yet just saw the pps falling, and decided to get out, or it triggered a ton of the new stop-loss orders that came in as the price had risen earlier in the day.
Just my thoughts.
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IMO I believe it will dip tomolo,so MM can get more share. Hopefully it will up when PR release it is not restricted... since so many confusion now I am in at 0.0012 too .....
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Looks like a lot of people here got in at 0012 and above.By just reading the PR it sounds like we will be ok,but wheh you read all the post about this and that and what can happen you just get overwhelmed with negativity.
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