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Posted by matto on :
 
WATCH IT!!!! VOLUME!
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Confirms It Is in Substantive Negotiations With Prospective Acquiror/Merger Candidate

Tuesday , February 28, 2006 09:25 ET

LAS VEGAS, NV, Feb 28, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER" or the "Company") (OTC: JPHC) today announces confirmation that the Company is in substantive discussions and negotiations with a prospective acquiror/merger candidate. At this stage, the Company is not able to announce any specific terms that may be included in an acquisition transaction, if negotiations are successful, but management believes that the parties to the negotiations anticipate finalizing a preliminary agreement.

As previously announced the Company's Board of Directors has authorized its management to commence preparations to develop a plan to become a target for acquisition or merger by a suitable strategic buyer. That planning continues and the Company's efforts in developing and subsequently executing that plan have begun to produce results such as attracting a suitable buyer.

The Company recently had begun discussions with more than one interested party and within the last several days the Company's efforts has focused on one potential candidate and those discussions have become more substantive in nature. As developments progress and the details of a transaction emerge, the Company will make appropriate announcements and disclosures that are required.

Key items such as the execution of definitive documents and the finalization of the previously announced independent valuation report are some of the items that are required for the negotiations to result in preliminary and final agreements.

Management of JUPITER is encouraged by the level of negotiations and the serious intent of both parties to move forward. Management looks forward to the execution of the steps ahead to achieve success. Although management is encouraged at this stage of the discussions, no assurances can be given that an acquisition or merger transaction will be agreed to by the parties or that such a transaction will be approved by our shareholders, if required.

ABOUT JUPITER GLOBAL HOLDINGS, CORP.

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. is a holding company with
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Confirms It Is in Substantive Negotiations With Prospective Acquiror/Merger Candidate

Tuesday , February 28, 2006 09:25 ET

LAS VEGAS, NV, Feb 28, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER" or the "Company") (OTC: JPHC) today announces confirmation that the Company is in substantive discussions and negotiations with a prospective acquiror/merger candidate. At this stage, the Company is not able to announce any specific terms that may be included in an acquisition transaction, if negotiations are successful, but management believes that the parties to the negotiations anticipate finalizing a preliminary agreement.

As previously announced the Company's Board of Directors has authorized its management to commence preparations to develop a plan to become a target for acquisition or merger by a suitable strategic buyer. That planning continues and the Company's efforts in developing and subsequently executing that plan have begun to produce results such as attracting a suitable buyer.

The Company recently had begun discussions with more than one interested party and within the last several days the Company's efforts has focused on one potential candidate and those discussions have become more substantive in nature. As developments progress and the details of a transaction emerge, the Company will make appropriate announcements and disclosures that are required.

Key items such as the execution of definitive documents and the finalization of the previously announced independent valuation report are some of the items that are required for the negotiations to result in preliminary and final agreements.

Management of JUPITER is encouraged by the level of negotiations and the serious intent of both parties to move forward. Management looks forward to the execution of the steps ahead to achieve success. Although management is encouraged at this stage of the discussions, no assurances can be given that an acquisition or merger transaction will be agreed to by the parties or that such a transaction will be approved by our shareholders, if required.

ABOUT JUPITER GLOBAL HOLDINGS, CORP.

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. is a holding company with
 
Posted by superman7 on :
 
i am in!
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
Didnt mean to double post
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Looks like it gonna do it again,Im in.
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
If I had a dollar every time I saw a press release like this from Jupiter... Just kidding. I'm sure this will cause pps to move up some, I'm just still a little bitter from the vxbx spinoff and having restricted shares for who knows how long!
 
Posted by Sell High on :
 
I am in, I am just waiting for it to pop!
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
2 left on the ask..
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Quick question for those who know how this works. It says there are 2 MMs each trying to sell 5000 at .0004. I think the number is in thousands, which means there are 10mil shares for sale at .0004. Would it be worth throwing out the $4K to get them out of the way and get he 5's in the door, or will it not necesarily bring the bids up with it?
 
Posted by MB on :
 
I'm in.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Blue light special!!!
 
Posted by MB on :
 
tough time getting through the .0004's [Frown]
 
Posted by MB on :
 
tough time getting through the .0004's [Frown]
 
Posted by yourdiligence on :
 
I'm hopeful that a co. of caliber of Verizon is talking with them. It seems that MACRO is the golden nugget that could generate interest for acquisition. I believe that the MACRO purchase was always intended for eventual sale at markup. Trying to remember but what did JPHC pay for MACRO? Anyone...?
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
NITE just fell off the ask.. 1 left now
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
3x5 now
 
Posted by DIGDOUGH on :
 
Is it possible that Jupiter could be a little more vague about the upcoming transaction?
 
Posted by yourdiligence on :
 
vagueness = verizon lol

I know what you mean DD
 
Posted by stocks1984 on :
 
dead money here! always been
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
UT 4x5
 
Posted by Graham Charitable Trust on :
 
rock, what price u lookin to dump?
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
if we ever break above 5 this thing is going to be a runner... but until then, i'm gonna hold.. high volume and upticking = good
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
MOST REQUESTED AT PINKSHEETS.COM TODAY

http://www.pinksheets.com/marketactivity/topquotes.jsp
 
Posted by rob_seller on :
 
Gonna be huge.....Lets break that stupid wall of 0.0005 first.....
Then
BABOOOOOOM,,....and then
BADABING...BADABOOM
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Has there been a timeframe set for this merger/acquisition? Just found this stock today.

All the small guys are popping - JPHC hasn't found it's mojo yet
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
this one is going to be a winner, just look at the chart and compare to Sept. 05, same pattern, with news this flys
 
Posted by reidler88 on :
 
what is the float,,,

was anyone able to get in at .0003 ??????
im trying to,,
i see some trustworthy faces jumpin in on this one,,, i dont wanna miss the boat,,,
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
I paid .0004 (so far)....

Still have plenty of juice to give, but I'm waiting for the volume surge
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Ive been trying for .0003 for two days, nothing yet, got 1.6 mill at .0004
 
Posted by rob_seller on :
 
GLTA....It seems like its having gr8 diff getting beyond 5...Lets hope leter today it ends at 5 and ten gap up in am at 6....
That would be nice...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
that PR would be perfect tomorrow
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
lets see if th eod vol occurs like it did yesterday
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
FYI -


0.0004 100 OTO 12:24:52
0.0004 100 OTO 12:24:50

MM signal for: I need shares
 
Posted by rob_seller on :
 
hope 4 a good day tomorrow..
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
$20 on 10 the hard way!!!!!! Rollem boys and girls. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
This stock seems like it will make a nice % move once the acuqision PR hits - VOIP has been hot.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
If you look at the 2/10 PR:

"...This spin-off plan is also one of the key steps for the Company preparations in becoming an attractive acquisition or merger target..."

Looks like they need to announce the dividend first.

This is exciting seeing how BOOMING the VOIP market is! [Cool]
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
lack of expected PR makes me a sad lobster
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
give it some time... before you know it you'll be all pinchy and stuff!!!! Should a PR be releasd next week... we should see some good action!
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
No doubt
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
here we go.. UT * 4/5

4*4
9*5
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
Moving fast..

7 * 4
5 * 5
 
Posted by superman7 on :
 
in at .0005!!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
not sure much will happen with it today... wait until next week!!! PR will do it!
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
I am on board with this as well. I picked up some shares last week. Hope to see that PR soon as well.
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
I think this is prep for next week..

Went from a 3/4 BA to a 4/5 BA with 10MM's building a fort at 4? I think that's huge in itself. The fact that we're sitting at the .0005 wall right now just waiting for takeoff..
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
2 left till 6
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
0.0005 100 OTO 13:55:07

Another 100 share signal
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RockLobster:
0.0005 100 OTO 13:55:07

Another 100 share signal

What does that mean? Are they signaling to other MM's to either buy or sell?

Thank you
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
52-Week High: 0.026 on Monday, February 28, 2005
52-Week Low: 0.0002 on Monday, July 18, 2005

Average Price: 0.0004 (50-day) 0.0007 (200-day)
Average Volume: 167,135,400 (50-day) 101,890,600 (200-day)

Shares Outstanding: 1,619,057,000
Market Cap: 809,529
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
This is the accepted theory on MM signals

"MM Signals
a-Signals between MMs...
100 > I need shares
200 > I need shares badly but dont take it down to get em
300 > Take the price down to get shares....
400 > Trade it sideways based on Supply and Demand
500 > Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction
of the 500 trade. Sometimes -if in the middle -keep the price right where it is."
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Between CSJJ and JPHC, I dont know which way to go. Both are saying news any day now. Decisions, decisions...
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
Huge volume in the past hour somethings up!
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RockLobster:
This is the accepted theory on MM signals

"MM Signals
a-Signals between MMs...
100 > I need shares
200 > I need shares badly but dont take it down to get em
300 > Take the price down to get shares....
400 > Trade it sideways based on Supply and Demand
500 > Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction
of the 500 trade. Sometimes -if in the middle -keep the price right where it is."

Thanks Lobster!
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
1 left * 5
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
and we have 5/6
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Ask up to 6
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
i'm liking it, yet does anyone know why there's such huge volume? Any news out? Cant find any recent PR's! (Feb 28 was last one right?!?!)
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
i tend to believe that it is a prerun from the expected PR to come out, i'm guessing either EOD today or monday morning.


printed 6
 
Posted by rabbu1234 on :
 
any PR comming
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Great action - wait till the mm's start jumping off .0006

Glad I loaded up in the .0004's and didn't wait out the .0003's
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
as usual, it looks like I sold out a bit early. I was getting impatient with the lack of movement and sold half of my position yesterday at .0004. Also wanted the funds for other purchases. Oh well, had bought at .0003, so I'm happy with whatever happens from here on out.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Monday should be big. [Wink]
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
huge trades going off at 5 and 6, 400+ mil volume.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
be awesome to see it close at .0006 be great for monday morning... then a PR and then Zoom Zoom outta here!!!!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
be awesome to see it close at .0006 be great for monday morning... then a PR and then Zoom Zoom outta here!!!!
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
your wish is granted
 
Posted by iOWNstocks on :
 
finally seeing some movement again, been holding this for 5 months now.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Wooohoo, nice! looks amazing for monday, the chart is set up perfect. Man, I hit GWGO this week too, gotta love it
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
Too bad she didn't close * .0006 but hey... movement is movement and as long is it's in the right direction... one can't complain!!! So let's see what monday has to bring to the table!

Have a great weekend everyone... i'm outta here!
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
huh? Ameritrade shows a close at 6

any idea why UBSS jumped on the 5 bid after hours?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Didnt close at 6 according to alphatrade, doesnt matter shes going to open monday at 6 or higher
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
this one is going to be a winner, just look at the chart and compare to Sept. 05, same pattern, with news this flys

gonna happen next week

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=JPHC&p=D&yr=0&mn=9&dy=0&id=p41111476197
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
I would almost guarantee news Monday or Tuesday, jmo
 
Posted by Fergy on :
 
I've heard there is a PR coming out on Monday after hours that "should knock everyone's socks off at the number that will come out", according to dogcatcher17 on RB. GL longs!
 
Posted by heynow on :
 
Tried buying 500mill at .0004 from 10am to about 12noon. After no execution I put a bid in at .0005 and still nothing. Was it etrade slow to execute or was no one selling..I thought for sure I would get my order filled at .0005.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
I think no one wants to give it up at .0004.
I sure don't. This is a stock I think will rise once the merger happens. And no one bought low enough to make any $$$ yet.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by heynow:
Tried buying 500mill at .0004 from 10am to about 12noon. After no execution I put a bid in at .0005 and still nothing. Was it etrade slow to execute or was no one selling..I thought for sure I would get my order filled at .0005.

200 million? You mean $80,000.00 worth?
 
Posted by heynow on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by pay up:
quote:
Originally posted by heynow:
Tried buying 500mill at .0004 from 10am to about 12noon. After no execution I put a bid in at .0005 and still nothing. Was it etrade slow to execute or was no one selling..I thought for sure I would get my order filled at .0005.

200 million? You mean $80,000.00 worth?
Opppsss.....I mean 5mil. However I had a order in for 1 hour at .0005 and I couldnt get my order filled. Not even a partial. This this is wrapped tight.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Fergy, I have been listening to that dude at RB for 2 weeks saying the same stuff. A broken clock is right 2 times a day so maybe he will be on time with this prediction. He did the same thing last week. Lets hope that we all make some cash next week. TMAN...
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by heynow:
Tried buying 500mill at .0004 from 10am to about 12noon. After no execution I put a bid in at .0005 and still nothing. Was it etrade slow to execute or was no one selling..I thought for sure I would get my order filled at .0005.

When JPHC was .0003 x .0004, it took Etrade way too long to fill me. This was when the stock had maybe 60 million in volume for the day. No one was buying for a while or selling. Took Etrade a good 20 minutes to notice my order. Sometimes you just have to call the trade inquiry desk. When a large order comes in that needs to be worked by a trader, it will sometimes get routed to another firm. Then you have to hope that other firm is paying attention. In the future, call the PowerEtrade number, get the trade inquiry desk, display some knowledge and you will get your fills.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
this one is going to be a winner, just look at the chart and compare to Sept. 05, same pattern, with news this flys

gonna happen next week

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=JPHC&p=D&yr=0&mn=9&dy=0&id=p41111476197

Do you see the divergence in the PVO and stock price? Nice accumulation

PPO also had nice positive divergence. PPS went down, but PPO remained level (granted not in bullish territory, but when the PPS dropped, the PPO stayed level)
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
I got some free shares for this one. Hope
it will run soon.
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
I believe the reason everyone has had a hard time obtaining shares of JPHC is because the MM's have been controlling this one for so long. From what I hear, they are way short on shares. Something like 2 bil. So I dont think its your broker. A lot of 100 signals have printed which means that the MM's need shares to cover bad! If you are in at 0003/ 0004/ or 0005, you are in really good shape. This thing is going to uptick every day next week IMO, so the least that we will see by Fri will be 001, and probably higher. I am really excited and hope that we get some solid news. Good Luck everyone!
 
Posted by Fergy on :
 
There are some interpretations of the spike to 0.004 yesterday. Some think it was a signal by the MM's of where this is headed next week while others think it was fat fingers. I agree with the signal as well as one other proposed thought. Perhaps the MM's are trying to give the impression that there was massive selling when someone looks at the TA. When I was looking at the chart the accum/dist and chaikin Osc took a big dip. Looking at the formulas of these calculations it would make sense that this would occur with the huge spike to 0.004 (on only 1000 shares)then to close at 0.0005.
Looking at the TA I think it is looking good. Yesterday it closed above the 50MA of 0.0004, MACD is crossing over 0, DMI+ crossed the ADX line, RSI has been rising over the last month and it currently at 60. The bollinger bands are tightening however, yesterday it is at the upper band. These are my thoughts. Pick them apart as you wish I just think it is looking primed. The proposed news AH on Monday would add nicely to the anticipated explosion just as long as the news that "should knock everyone's socks off at the number that will come out" is good and not a play on words and in fact bad. Once again GL all
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
actually, if you look at dogcatchers posts on JPHC he is usually right on. If he posts "PR is imminent" then the PR comes out within 30 min. If he says a PR will be out after close on such and such a day it usually comes out that day or before open the next. Just look at the post times and compare them to a couple PRs. His source is quite reliable, as he correctly predicted just about everything that went on with IGTN (now IGTG) and I made ALOT of money off his "predictions".
I think that this one has the potential for .0010-15 on monday with no PR due to the HUGE amount of shares shorted, even in the past week (look at the volume in the past four days on a T&S chart, lots of hits on 4 and only a couple hits on the bid of 3 and no movement).
With the PR who knows how high.

Resistance point are:(going back 1 year)
.0007
.0011-12
Possibly at .0016
.0021-22
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by heynow:
Tried buying 500mill at .0004 from 10am to about 12noon. After no execution I put a bid in at .0005 and still nothing. Was it etrade slow to execute or was no one selling..I thought for sure I would get my order filled at .0005.

I'm on ETrade and bought at .0004 last week with no problem. But is was only 1mil.
 
Posted by striper on :
 
the dog says big news monday after the closing bell
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
what dog


nvm... can you send me a link to his posts?
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RockLobster:
what dog


nvm... can you send me a link to his posts?

Read the preceding posts and you will know.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
the dog is dogcatcher from another board.
I read a post about him earlier but there are at least 3 JPHC threads. It must be on one of the others. He said PR coming Mondat after closing bell.
Someone else said he is accurat most of the time.
I tried to find that post but couldn't. It's like finding the needle in a haystack.
 
Posted by Fergy on :
 
Dog is Dogcatcher17 on Ragingbull
 
Posted by yourdiligence on :
 
If tangibles are coming this week it could indeed be very rewarding $$$ I was just looking at chart and it does seem primed for something. Nice base from which to move upward. Huge volume Monday could really throttle shorts and move PPS up nicely. MMs willingness to let it go for spurts or longer (days) would be most-appreciated GLTA!! When Dog speaks about news it is usually right on--in the recent past such 'news' hasn't moved PPS but if this news speaks to specific guidance on possible acquisition/valuation then some dynamic move both (technically) and fundamentally in mind of investors could happen. It wouldn't be out of question to also see a substantial number of daytraders get in and put even more pressure on shorts. JPHC is very-much followed in penny world see pinksheets.com (most-viewed) section and tangible news is going to put issue into greater exposure and demand curve.
 
Posted by striper on :
 
By: dogcatcher17
03 Mar 2006, 12:54 PM EST
Msg. 33894 of 34217
Jump to msg. #
JPHC: I am hearing that the news may not be out until after the close on Monday. If our source is correct, it should knock everyone's socks off at the number that will come out. If you own it, you should be in great shape. If you don't own it, this may be your opportunity. Either way the Stock should have a tremendous, tremendous, move. Enough said. This is my opinion.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
 -

Click on the chart for larger image

Broke long term resistance

The perfect storm is brewing:
1) about to get a bullish 20/50 cross
2) took out resistance (50 SMA)
3) closed above long term resistance at .0004
4) from mid Jan to mid Feb, the CMF increased while the PPS decreased = accumulation (that is why the CMF went positive towards end of Feb/early March)
5) stochs say JPHC is nowhere near being overbought
6) next resistance may be 200 SMA at .00067 (but 200 SMA has never been a factor before)
7) the last breakout JPHC had from this level was almost to .004 (my line chart does not show it, but feel free to pull up a candlestick chart)


As most have been saying, a breakout is imminent. I will be interested to see how this opens up on Monday morning. A 1-2 punch may be coming: dividend news followed by acquisition news.
 
Posted by OnceApenny on :
 
JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Now Ready to Complete Relisting on the OTCBB

Last Update: 10:20 AM ET Oct 4, 2005


LAS VEGAS, NV, Oct 04, 2005 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER" or the "Company") (JPHC : jupiter global hldgs corp com
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JPHC0.00, +0.00, +25.0%) announces that yesterday, the Company filed its 10-QSB Quarterly Report for the quarter ended June 30, 2005. With the completion of this filing, the Company anticipates that it is now current in its filings with the SEC and is moving towards completing the remaining steps necessary to regain its listing on the Over-the-Counter Electronic Bulletin Board. The 10-QSB Quarterly Report brings the Company current in its filings and is expected to enable the Company to qualify for eligibility for price quotations on the Bulletin Board, subject to the filing and approval of the Company's Form 211.
Accessing the largest possible audience for the Company to inform the investing community about JUPITER's business growth is our aim. The OTCBB is one of many levels of a larger audience we wish to attain.


This last year PR never happened. Somebody know why???? There also was a lot of dillution.
 
Posted by heynow on :
 
Shares Outstanding 185,864,688...Man, I hope I can get in on Monday.
 
Posted by Fergy on :
 
Heynow,

Where the heck did you find those numbers? I think they are wrong.
 
Posted by heynow on :
 
I think Im wrong...I was looking on stockhouse just browsing and it states the OS is 185,864,688. Fergy, do you have the current OS on this.
 
Posted by Fergy on :
 
I have heard the o/s is around 5 Billion but the float is a lot less due to restricted shares by the insiders. I can't remember the exact number but I think it is around 2 Billion. However the company is said to be buying back up to 1 Billion shares. It is a little confusing with all the files lately but it looks like they have been retiring shares lately. The evaluation by Evans and Evans will tell the story soon. Up from here imo. Good luck. THe TA are looking good and there seems to be some short covering.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
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Mar. 3, 2006 Market Closed
Common Stock Market : Other OTC
Last Sale: $ 0.0005 Net Change: unch
Share Volume: 525,758,409 Previous Close: $ 0.0004
Today's High: $ 0.004 Today's Low: $ 0.0004
Best Bid: N/A Best Ask: N/A
52 Week High: $ 0.025 52 Week Low: $ 0.0004
P/E Ratio: N/A Shares Outstanding: 1,619,057,000
Earnings Per Share (EPS): N/A Market Value: $ 809,528.50
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Thanks Wally for that information. It looks like it traded about 1/3 of the available float Friday. That to me is a good sign. BTW is this information from a particular site that we can all access or is it a paid service? TMAN...
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Yahoo Finance
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It's free.

There's a good program to listen to during market hours. A lot of good info.

Try subpennyradio.com
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Yahoo doesnt give key stats for pinks. TMAN...
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
tman, prolly from one of the NASDAQ features--can't tell which ya which one (btw, it's easy to forget which one ya used if you're looking over a bunch of 'em). Try this:

http://quotes.nasdaq.com/asp/SummaryQuote.asp?symbol=jphc&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&selected=jphc
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Thanks Tex, I cant believe the o/s is at 1.6 b. I am so glad i got in this so cheap. TMAN...
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
good morning to all..

expecting a very lucrative week..
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
bid building,

tdcm and Fran joined

.0005x.0006
4x12
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
7x5
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
9x5 :-) gonna blow up big
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
9x5 :-) gonna blow up big
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
.0007 -- nice without any news out too!!! I'm liking it!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
.0007 -- nice without any news out too!!! I'm liking it!
 
Posted by one2watchny on :
 
ready for the run........ [Big Grin]
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
I tried to get 2 mil more at .0005, no deal then at .0006, no deal. should I go for .0007?
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
Good action! Just need some news now to make this thing really runnnnnnn!
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
i'd actually prefer the news to come out after hours today. Today seems to be doing fine on it's own.
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
Could someone post a current chart of JPHC please???
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
and another

0.0007 100 OTO 10:11:34
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
I think the MM's are in trouble with this one!!!
 
Posted by doling2005 on :
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=JPHC.PK&t=5d
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Hopefully this will hold .0006, and then it's off to the races tomorrow!
 
Posted by MovingUp on :
 
Trying to buy at the ask. Anyone else getting filled * .0007?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
this is looking amazingly well for a run on news (if dogcatcher is right). I say close at .0007 but prob higher
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Stock will explode from 3pm until the close

Expect a major gap at the open tomorrow
 
Posted by iOWNstocks on :
 
lets hope, charts are lookings good.
 
Posted by one2watchny on :
 
anyone want to start new thread with Merger news?
the last PR
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
JPHC is at .0007x.0008 Looking sweet! Get in... this puppy is gonna run and gap!
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
Just saw about 6 million bought * .0008
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
profit takers took it down... back at 0.0006 x 0.0007, only 1 left at 0.0007 though!
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
An MM signal:
100 at 12:41:39 for $0.0007
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Squire38:
An MM signal:
100 at 12:41:39 for $0.0007

Sorry but I have another dumb newbie question. I understand they are sending signals to one another but when they are looking for shares what are they expecting to happen? Someone will sell some off so they in turn could buy them?

Thanks
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
I think they are just signaling to keep the PPS low so they can get shares. Hopefully a vet can answer better.
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Squire38:
I think they are just signaling to keep the PPS low so they can get shares. Hopefully a vet can answer better.

Thanks!
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
Yea, generally MMs will try shake out tactics to get the PPS to dip (we could see a .0005 or .0004 dip to the extreme with this stock. Panic selling happens, they grab cheap shares and usually 30min later it is back to the opening price or higher. Once the signal is given to release, the high volume of retail and other MM will bring the price to rise. The driving force right now is this marger. I am very interested to see how positive this becomes. There is NOTHING better than having 2 interested parties. The best thing for a penny stock is a bidding war between two groups that want the same thing. I think we could see a large gap up with news and a steady rise once MM's accumulate.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
looking great, in since .0004 the other day
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Usually the 100 is a signal that the MM's need shares. They will bring the ask and bid down trying to scare people into selling and replenish their stock of shares that way.
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
Thanks everyone,
I appreciate it.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
looking for that after lunch surge in vol, light it up
 
Posted by doling2005 on :
 
this could be the next avst, merger announcement and up over 200%..
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
And we touch .0008! [Eek!]
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Got a double so far

Do we hear a triple by the end of the day? [Razz]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
bid building, expect 8-9+ for close IMO
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
I take it this is due to anticipated news concerning merger?
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
Yes, sportsguy... and to make things better, there are 2 interested buyers. Nothing better for a penny stock than a bidding war between two interested parties. This really could be big with not much of a downside risk
 
Posted by IceCold on :
 
Whats the target expected with this share in this week??? I just got myself partially filled at 0.0007.
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
IceCold, it's hard to set a target price. With news on the merger, the price will be 100% dependent on what the preliminary merger price is set at... if there is no merger news, then speculation is going to continue until a PR release. That speculation will only lead to increases in PPS as no one speculates on a possible merger by selling... So without news, I think it could tap .0012 or .0013? With a merger? Dang, .004? .003? Depends on the merger price. Best of luck!
 
Posted by reidler88 on :
 
i am hearing all kinds of targets for this stock,, earlier it was .001-.0015
but that was earlier,, now im hearing .002-.0025
or more,,,
honestly this stock keeps getting better and better,,, we should know end of day how this one will turn up,, or def sometime tomorrow,, i am hoping for news after the bell today [Smile]
either way,, im glad i got in this early
just enjoyin the ride,,,
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
news within the next 24 hours is what im hearing
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
This is from Dog on other board
JPHC: We are hearing that the Company will definitely get their valuation some time today. We are still hearing that it is going to be dynamite. As far as the timing goes....we are hearing that there will definitely be an announcement withing the next 24 hours. So keep the faith and let's have a nice ride.
 
Posted by IceCold on :
 
Just got 1.4 mill shares at 0.0007 ....... All i Wish is that It shouldnt drop back to 0.0005 or less.... I cant take the heavy beating on this.
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
I think it's becoming increasingly clear we have tremendous support at .0007 today with .0008 being the resistance. I would feel very very safe that you're DEF not gonna go less than .0005, and I think there is only positives to be had with the speculation, bidding war, and rumors wisping around
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
The anticipation for this upcoming news is killing me.

glta
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
Maybe the recient word (above) from the Dog gives you more anticipation
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
IceCold, I put the down payment on my 2004 IS300 last year with some of my profits from trading :-)
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by pay up:
Maybe the recient word (above) from the Dog gives you more anticipation

It sure did.

[Smile]
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
This is going to be so massively bullish if we close at .0008 or higher
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
get ready boys and girls :-)
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
The 9's are building up! [Smile]
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
Bam! There it went, .0008x.0009
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
Ask is .0009 on Etrade!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
there she goes, where she'll stop nobody knows.

Run JPHC!! Then give me a dividend.
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
YES Baby!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by IceCold on :
 
0.0009 .......... Coool
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
niiice
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
I am really pumped [Smile] This is SOO bullish... ending the day on an uptick and above .0008 is gonna do WONDERS for this stock this week.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
hope i'm not the sucker holding the bags.. i'm in at 9
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
You are not lostone, .0009 is an EXCELLENT entry point even now. You'll see this puppy GO on Monday. The best thing and what you should be hoping for is a close at the high of the day, .0009 Ending on an uptick or closing at the high would just cause a tremendous gap on Monday. Even a close at .0008 is so so solid.
 
Posted by MB on :
 
ah....today is Monday [Smile]
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
yeah i'm guessing that's supposed to be tuesday [Big Grin]
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
yep.. it's Monday where I live too! lol
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
Hahahah, sorry [Smile] Tuesday [Smile] It looks like we're gonna end on a price uptick on the bid, which is simply sweetness.
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
Hahah, maybe that is why I got smacked with 1 star [Frown] ... silly dates [Smile]
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
I hope we all have lots of fun with this one this week!!
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
I have some stars coming your way Leritu
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Leritu:
Hahah, maybe that is why I got smacked with 1 star [Frown] ... silly dates [Smile]

Not any more!
 
Posted by MB on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Leritu:
Hahah, maybe that is why I got smacked with 1 star [Frown] ... silly dates [Smile]

I'll give you a bump...
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JOELGA:
I have some stars coming your way Leritu

Now that's what I am talking about! Looks like we are zooming in on not only a HIGH-of-the-day close, but also an uptick in the bid price. I think that bodes so well for a gap on Tues. We'll see very soon if we see that PR come out about valuations? The volume seems to say "yes" we will.
 
Posted by MB on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Leritu:
Hahah, maybe that is why I got smacked with 1 star [Frown] ... silly dates [Smile]

I'll give you a bump...
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
hope i'm not the sucker holding the bags.. i'm in at 9

I'll buy all of your shares off you next week for 0.0009! Give me a few day to get some money together.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
awesome close!! I'm liking it a LOT!!! gonna see .001 in the a.m. gap!!!
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
JAWR....or even higher!
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
If the news comes out it will definately be higher
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
I think w/o news we start at .0011, with news, we'll see a lot higher.
 
Posted by MovingUp on :
 
I sold another stock today at a big loss to buy more of JPHC. I'm soooooooo glad I did. I originally bought back in December at .0004 and today at .0007 averaging me to .0006. I'm waaay excited. This will be my first win in the market. [Smile]
 
Posted by IceCold on :
 
I also have at JPHC * 0.0007,

But today was the worst day of my entire life in stock....... I lost the opportunity to make $10,000 out of XKEM since i had released it too early in the morning, only for a profit of $3500.

Hope JPHC has something good for us tomorrow.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by IceCold:
I also have at JPHC * 0.0007,

But today was the worst day of my entire life in stock....... I lost the opportunity to make $10,000 out of XKEM since i had released it too early in the morning, only for a profit of $3500.
Hope JPHC has something good for us tomorrow.

Yea, I bought some xkem this morning at.018 and it finished at .025
I had 1mil here at .ooo4 and 1mil at .0007
 
Posted by MovingUp on :
 
There's a little blurb about us at Stockhouse.com, and I do mean little but it can only help.
http://www.stockhouse.com/news/news.asp?newsid=3465127&tick=JPHC
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
movingup,
are you also "profitsup" on another board?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
gonna be hard to gap through 9 without news before open, if there is news , gap to 10. Even without news we should see 11-12 tomorrow, with news who knows anything is possible. USXP, CNES, ADVC, GWGO....JPHC? I hate to compare but this micro market is HOT right now
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
would be nice if the PR came after a morning gap.. seems like they like to release around 10am.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
STOCK WILL GAP TOMORROW: NEWS OR NO NEWS, WE WILL GAP

ALMOST 1 BILLION SHARES TRADED [Cool]
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RockLobster:
would be nice if the PR came after a morning gap.. seems like they like to release around 10am.

You're right about the PRs coming in the AM.
I checked the last 6 or 7 news wire PRs from JPHC and they ranged between about 8:30 - 11:30AM
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
I cant believe more people arent in on this, great chart, nearly guaranteed PR, actual products....

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=JPHC&p=D&yr=1&mn=0&dy=0&id=p23606353754
 
Posted by OnceApenny on :
 
Outstanding as of June 30, 2005
$0.0001 par value Common Stock 856,372,406

After the VXBX divy it hit 0.003. Then the dillution started to
1,619,057,000 . PPS went south under 0.001.


Jan 5 2006 JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Announces Board of Directors Considering Stock Buyback Program.

Still no complete relisting on the OTCBB.

I don't wanna spoil your party and I hope you can make a nice profit like I did, but be aware because the whole story can repeat again.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
Would you agree that this will be a steady climb with few or no chances to sell and get back in at a lower price each day?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by OnceApenny:
Outstanding as of June 30, 2005
$0.0001 par value Common Stock 856,372,406

After the VXBX divy it hit 0.003. Then the dillution started to
1,619,057,000 . PPS went south under 0.001.


Jan 5 2006 JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Announces Board of Directors Considering Stock Buyback Program.

Still no complete relisting on the OTCBB.

I don't wanna spoil your party and I hope you can make a nice profit like I did, but be aware because the whole story can repeat again.

most ppl here just gonna ride the high and get their profit..
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
As soon as it hits .001 I'm gonna sell to get my capital back and protect myself along with 1000 profit.

Then I will ride my free shares all the way up until we find out whats going on with the "divy" if there is one.

I sure love the ride up though......
 
Posted by OnceApenny on :
 
Money, .... that's tomorrow.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
As soon as it hits .001 I'm gonna sell to get my capital back and protect myself along with 1000 profit.

Then I will ride my free shares all the way up until we find out whats going on with the "divy" if there is one.

I sure love the ride up though......

Suppose the news comes out? Wouldn't that make you wait another day at least?
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Hey Ice Cold dont feel bad about XKEM. I missed out on USXP's run. Sold at .005. Made some cash but could have made close to 30G if I had waited. If you make money in a penny stock be glad because most times we get screwed. Have a great evening and lets hope for some gooooood news here. TMAN...
 
Posted by Bigdogs on :
 
For those who are thinking about selling at .001 tomorrow. Why? There about ready to announce the evaluation from Evans & Evans which rumor has it the price is gonna come in around .004-6.
Once this is announced a preliminary contract will hit soon after and that will lock in the deal. Plus if you sell now most likely you will probably miss out on the stock dividend because i think you have to be in for 3 days prior to the dividend date being announced which could be anytime now. Also once over .001 the daytraders will jump all over this one. This is one of the most talked about stocks out there now. Just my advice but there are a ton of shorts in this stock and they will be run out this week. The o/s is about maxed out to from what people are saying.
 
Posted by heynow on :
 
Picked up 5Mill at .0007 but tried at .0005 the day before...Will try and pick up another 5mill and will probably open at .0009 if not .0010 - Im in this one LONG.
 
Posted by STOCKMOVER on :
 
CONGRATS TO ALL!!,

Glad to see that many of you have made some $ on this or broke even. I was in this last year and made some nice cash. I was in about 2 months ago, I sold last week to take another position. Oh well, can't win them all. Good luck to all of you, I hope it reaches .006
 
Posted by reidler88 on :
 
wow,,,now i see peoples predicted the target around .004-.006,,,
on raging bull stocks some think .007-.01,,
are people just trying to pump this stock,,,, or is the news suppose to be really that good,,,
i sure hope so,,, if it pans out like people say,, i am ****ting on my boss's desk and pissing in his coffee cup and quiting my job,,
LOL,,,

GL to everyone,,
im holding for at leaset .005 ,,depends on the news
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Cause I'm saying to always protect your capital and a little profit in case crap does hit the fan. Now that I see the the new target price my opinion is now changing.

I bought 5 mill shares X .0004 like RSHN. I've already made 125 percent so I would still be up pretty nice X .001. And I believe in protecting my capital no matter what is projected.

I'm looking forward to todays track. Lets Rock!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
.0008x.0009
4x5
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
Well, there isn't any news about valuations, but I do think we may see .0009x.001 open... still 25min
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
10am news is where it's at...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
ask at 10
 
Posted by superman7 on :
 
gapping already!! it will probably open at .001 or higher once it gets passed .001 this will keep going

chart looks just like last time when it ran into the .003's
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
And there it is! .0009x.001
 
Posted by whb11 on :
 
I like how this stock looks, a lot.
reminds me of the RSHN from a few days ago.
I might even take some of my RSHN proceeds and donate some to this cause.
Wish I'd checked it out sooner.
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
I'm anxiously awaiting the news as well, but I would have thought the price would have already gone up considerably following the previous press releases the past couple of months. I guess it depends on the company/valuation?
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
Now that's what I am talking about! Looovin' that gap.
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
BA at .0009x.001
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
boy i was a little late on that one.. allstocks acting a little slow for me
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
What did I tell yah lobster... you be all pinchy and red really really soon... and now she be good!!! [Big Grin] Let's see it today! Looking forward to the news and the .002s [Smile]
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
hahaha jar..
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
Didn't gap, but did see a rise to .0009x.001 shortly after open... 80mil volume in 15min... I like that! Looking like it will be a solid morning.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
knocking on the door of 11
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
Liking these big buys * 001
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
Ash thinning * .001, moving to .0011 on level 2! Best of luck everyone! Good strong movement!
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
11 coming in 3,2,1...
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
One sell left at .001

A lot lined up at .0011, hopefulyl a bunch back off when they realize this could really run
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
lol i didn't even know there were this many MM's until i started playing JPHC...

.0010x.0011

2xalot
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Bingo...0011
 
Posted by DZWulf on :
 
.0001 How far do we expect this to go today?
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
Perhaps a slight pullback... look at the chart 6 months ago. The MMs did the EXACT same thing... tempting to sell then there was the huge runup... don't give 'em your shares!
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
No way Leritu. Too many good things in the works! I think we will close at 0011 or 0012 today even if we dont get any pr's, but I think we will today.
 
Posted by MB on :
 
shake..
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
0.0008x0.0009 again
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
Yup, this is just a shake, you really gotta hold... it is coming back up, they would not be buying in massive blocks on the way down if it wasn't, they'd be selling at any price. It's just a shake... HOLD your shares
 
Posted by MB on :
 
imo folks getting nervous because of that 10AM news prediction...
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
yea, that's possible too. I think this puppy is doing fine without news. We know the stuff is coming about valuation and merger... and we should keep running until that news. When the news hits, that will be bonus. Lets not miss the forest b/c of the trees
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Since most of their PRs come out mid-morning, I am assuming today isn't the day [Frown]

Oh well, still keeping my fingers crossed.
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
MM's are accum. shares.. .0011 and .0012 are still holding their ground and there is zero volume right now.. which means NO ONE is selling to the MMs at this price.. they will have to bring it back up
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
also really looking for this PR..
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Not sure if anyone posted this today.

OTCPicks.com: Pre-Market Stocks to Watch for Tuesday, March 7th, NNYG, UDSG, XKEM, JPHC, ADVC, FLIP

http://www.marketcenter.com/stocks/story.action?id=MTO066u0427
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
well, .0007x.0008, MMs are putting the hurt on people now... I still feel like this is a shake to get cheap shares. There is so much positive around this stock! Hold those shares, you won't regret it IMO
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
well.. 6 might be it..

ETRD 0.0006 1000000 11:30
PERT 0.0006 500000 11:30
EFGI 0.0006 5000 09:18
HILL 0.0006 5000 11:18
VNDM 0.0006 5000 11:18
NITE 0.0006 5000 11:22
TASL 0.0006 5000 11:24
MAXM 0.0006 5000 11:24
SSGI 0.0006 5000 11:25
VIEW 0.0006 5000 11:26
TDCM 0.0006 5000 11:26
VERT 0.0006 5000 11:26
HDSN 0.0006 5000 11:26
UBSS 0.0006 5000 11:29
FRAN 0.0006 5000 11:30
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
yup.. back up we go
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
Yup, uptick in the bid. And the longs hold [Smile]
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
8x9 again..
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Alot of 10000 share blocks going thru,,,,,,,$9 worth of stock. Seems unlikely that people are buying $9 worth of stock,,,,,,,must be some sort of signal
 
Posted by MB on :
 
looks like it is going to make a turn north here...back to .001 news or no news imo...
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
we'll just have to wait til the 10th.. 3 more days.. not so bad
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
we'll just have to wait til the 10th.. 3 more days.. not so bad

my bad guys, got this mixed up with the AURC merger news .. but i'm holding this too..
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
According to the Etrade trading desk, there are a few million shares ahead of my order to BUY at .0008

Still no fills for me at .0008
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
just bought 450k at 0.0008 with profits from MOTG [Smile] there was only 1 MM left on the ask so I thought why not
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
This is why I sold at .0011 and got my capital plus a grand to play more stocks with. Now I'll just ride my FREE shares while sleeping very well at night.

I do expect it to go alot higher but my funds are for sure.

Go JPHC!!
 
Posted by heynow on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fergy:
I've heard there is a PR coming out on Monday after hours that "should knock everyone's socks off at the number that will come out", according to dogcatcher17 on RB. GL longs!

Hi Jmoove

This stock ran on rumor of news coming out and i was wondering where you heard this rumor about PR coming out?
 
Posted by bmwboyee on :
 
I just dont see why ppl have to lie around here. MMM i call B/S that you sold that much at .0011.
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
In their previous PR, it stated they would release information in 30 days or so, and it's been longer than 30 days.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
K then, what was my capital I had in and what profit did I take?

Now did I?

And I never said all was sold at .0011.
 
Posted by one2watchny on :
 
EOD RUN?
 
Posted by MB on :
 
buys picking up here headed into the last 1/2 hour..still say close at .001---.0009 at worst.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
the dogcatcher just posted the following,

JPHC: I am hearing that the valuation could be in the Company's hand some time tonight. We could see a Press Release either late tonight or early in the morning. This should be good for us all. Just my opinion and good luck to all.

From reports, his info is correct 90% of the time. So he may have been off by a day.
 
Posted by MB on :
 
THIS JUST IN OFF THE RUMOR LINE>>>FWIW

By: dogcatcher17
07 Mar 2006, 03:45 PM EST
Msg. 34912 of 34917
Jump to msg. #
JPHC: I am hearing that the valuation could be in the Company's hand some time tonight. We could see a Press Release either late tonight or early in the morning. This should be good for us all. Just my opinion and good luck to all.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
WHAT!!! DOWN TO .0007
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
How many days are we going to hear this before it actually happens!!! [Mad]
 
Posted by MovingUp on :
 
As long as we don't keep hearing it and it tanks [Frown]
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Closed on the 200 SMA

MM's just trying to make a pretty chart - also ended on the top the the channel (2nd area of support) - check out the chart on the IH JPHC message board.

Good place to be technically. Let's see if we get that news before the open tomorrow. We are sitting on a stick of dynamite right now. [Razz]
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
http://www.dynamite.ca/
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
WHAT THE HELL IS DYNAMITE.CA????
 
Posted by OnceApenny on :
 
Congrat MONEY


Smokem hot if ya got'em
 
Posted by Bigdogs on :
 
I came

up with 1.3 billion based on 31 people. There are 2000 shareholders in this stock.

5 billion o/s (2.8 should be restricted (Officers hold 2billion and S-8 was 800 million)

So 2.2 billion should be left - the 1.3 billion which equals 900 million.

JPHC is buying back up to a billion which leaves a negative 100million

and there are 1970 other shareholders out there.

What does this tell you. Tells me the market makers have some explaining to do if the numbers above are accurate.

The whole float has easily got to be shorted here from my accounts with alot of naked shorting going on.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I've got 2mill free shares left.
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
What's the feeling today guys... a good or bad day [Confused]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
hopefully a good day, yesterdays lack of news prob shook out alot of weak hands. Even if news doesnt come today ill be holding, if she dips back near where i bought in (.0004) then I will be def buying a WHOLE lot more
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
If news comes today like expected, the ones that bailed yesterday'll wish they'd have stayed on. Patience is the key. You can't always make a fortune in 1 day.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
News will be out before noon, as per dogcatcher
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
Jmoove, where did dog say news before noon?
 
Posted by heynow on :
 
Dogcatcher? Rumor or fact
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
he is pretty much always on


Check the JPHC thread on ragingbulls, I followed the Dog on IGTN (now IGTG) and made a BUNCH of money.
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
Hope Dog is right.
That is great news.
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Me too. Not looking so great right now. Down to 6
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
mms shaking shares HARD watch how fast it will go back up when we get volume at the ask ofcourse
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
LOL, i knew i would be holding bags on this one. doh!
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
well.. 2hrs to go..
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
I have had an order in at the ask for 8 min now, ive seen the mms go from 4 to 1 and still no fill, good sign
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
ok im pretty much convinced they arent filling retail orders. I have an order in for 300k shares and they are filling 9 mill orders, mms buying? oh i think so.
 
Posted by MB on :
 
over 200M traded in first 50min...going to be huge volume today....
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
finally got executed took 17 min
 
Posted by kilerb on :
 
Mine went through pretty quick at .0006. Was definitely not instantaneous though. I didn't see it on the L2 ticker either. Weird.
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
so what is everyone gonna do when the news doesn't come out by 12..
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Ill be astonished that the Dog was wrong two days in a row! I have been following him for about a year and he is almost NEVER wrong especially when he picks the day and time, but who knows, ill still hold either way
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
well knowing my luck.. that's exactly how it's gonna be..
 
Posted by MB on :
 
.0007 [Smile]
 
Posted by Graham Charitable Trust on :
 
holding... not enough capitol not too, lol
 
Posted by IceCold on :
 
Well, my bid to add up some more shares failed at 0.0005 [Frown]
 
Posted by kilerb on :
 
Where is the best place to find PR's? On Etrade they seem to show up hours after they really came out. Does Yahoo put them up right after they're released?
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
kiler, try purepennies
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
yahoo is pretty good about it
 
Posted by kilerb on :
 
Thanks guys.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
I just emailed them --- didn't know they were based in Vancouver, Canada! I could pop by on friday and check out what they are all about [Big Grin] ... first time i've invested in someone/thing so close to home!!! [Smile]
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
jar, post it up if you get a response back.
 
Posted by kilerb on :
 
I'm starting to think the dog was wrong. Maybe it'll come out sometime later in the day?
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RockLobster:
jar, post it up if you get a response back.

Will do, will do!!!
 
Posted by MB on :
 
well we wait now..they opened up the spread..
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Yep, people are still wanting to get those 5's and I can't say that I blame them. I have my doubts on the news coming out today. I could make a prediction that it comes out within the next few days since they originally said it would be out early to mid March [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
So far only got their automated email service... but someone should be getting back.. if i don't hear back from them by 1 pm (E.T.) i'll give'em a call!

===========================================
Thank You! Your inquiry has been Recieved.
===========================================

Thank you for taking the time to fill out our form concering

If you have any additional questions or comments now or at any time in the future, feel free to call us directly at 702.317.2300 so that we may assist you.

Wishing you good health and prosperity,

Jupiter Global Holdings Shareholder Communications Team

http://www.jupiterglobal.net
info*jupiterglobal.net
 
Posted by kilerb on :
 
Maybe Dog lives on the west coast and we still have 3 more hours!!!
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
From Dogcatcher on Ragingbull

By: dogcatcher17
08 Mar 2006, 11:57 AM EST
Msg. 35232 of 35235
Jump to msg. #
JPHC: I am hearing that the Press Release is being delayed a little bit, but it will be out before the close. From what I heard the i's need to be dotted and the t's need to be crossed.
 
Posted by kilerb on :
 
Cool, sounds good.
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
first time ever dealing with this dogcatcher and his comments, but so far he hasn't been very reliable. His rep is pretty good over at RB, but honestly i haven't been too impressed yet. Lets hope i'm wrong.
 
Posted by IceCold on :
 
Whatever be the upcoming news like..... Whats the target price you are expecting ???
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
Just saw an MM signal: 100. [Smile]
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
By: dogcatcher17
08 Mar 2006, 01:16 PM EST
Msg. 35297 of 35299

Jump to msg. #
JPHC: Expect news within the next half hour!!

---------
I don't know if he can be trusted but I'm keeping a close eye on my news streamer anyway
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
Let's see it!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
hopefully this news is blockbuster, cant wait for this to run
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
From dogcatcher on RB:

JPHC: Expect news within the next half hour!!

that was posted at 13:16 EST
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
lots of buys coming in, but level 2's look the same
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Provides Update Regarding Current Corporate Plans
Mar 8, 2006 1:35:00 PM
LAS VEGAS, NV -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 03/08/06 -- JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER" or the "Company") (OTC BB: JPHC) today provides an update regarding its current corporate plans.

The Company is pleased to inform its shareholders that the preliminary discussions with a potential acquirer/merger candidate are ongoing and progressing well.

Also, the Company's valuation process is advancing positively. Preliminarily, management feels very pleased with the process and the interim results. The independent pricing analysis report is moving towards being finalized, and the Company believes shareholders should be encouraged by Management's optimism about the direction of the process.

As a response to numerous shareholder inquires, the independent pricing analysis report is a confidential document that the Company commissioned for internal purposes only to aid the JUPITER board of directors in meeting their fiduciary duties in negotiations with any acquirer/merger candidate. JUPITER retained Evans & Evans to prepare an independent pricing analysis report to assist the JUPITER board of directors in determining a reasonable price for JUPITER in contemplating any transaction with any acquirer/merger candidate.

Although Management is encouraged at this stage of the discussions, no assurances can be given that an acquisition or merger transaction will be agreed to by the parties or that such a transaction will be approved by our shareholders, if required.

The entertainment spin-off, although delayed, is moving forward diligently. The abovementioned corporate plans, plus the Company's efforts to become current with its periodic filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission have required the Company to prioritize these efforts. The Company plans to provide a further update regarding the spin off of its entertainment interests in the near future.

ABOUT JUPITER GLOBAL HOLDINGS, CORP.

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. is a holding company with interests and developments in a diverse number of growing industries. JUPITER plans to achieve a leadership position through the building of a synergistic network of innovative, profitable and global businesses.

Statements contained herein that are not based on historical fact are "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. JUPITER Global Holdings Corp. intends that such forward-looking statements be subject to the safe harbor created thereby. Such forward-looking statements are based on current assumptions but involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause JUPITER Global Holdings Corp. actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from current expectations. These risks include economic, competitive, governmental, technological and other factors discussed in JUPITER Global Holdings Corp. applicable public filings on record with the U.S Securities and Exchange Commission which can be viewed at its website at http://www.sec.gov

Please visit our website: www.jupiterglobal.net

For more information please contact:
JUPITER Global Shareholder Services
Phone: 1.800.963.6532
Email Address: Email Contact
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Provides Update Regarding Current Corporate Plans
Mar 8, 2006 1:35:00 PM
LAS VEGAS, NV -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 03/08/06 -- JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER" or the "Company") (OTC BB: JPHC) today provides an update regarding its current corporate plans.

The Company is pleased to inform its shareholders that the preliminary discussions with a potential acquirer/merger candidate are ongoing and progressing well.

Also, the Company's valuation process is advancing positively. Preliminarily, management feels very pleased with the process and the interim results. The independent pricing analysis report is moving towards being finalized, and the Company believes shareholders should be encouraged by Management's optimism about the direction of the process.

As a response to numerous shareholder inquires, the independent pricing analysis report is a confidential document that the Company commissioned for internal purposes only to aid the JUPITER board of directors in meeting their fiduciary duties in negotiations with any acquirer/merger candidate. JUPITER retained Evans & Evans to prepare an independent pricing analysis report to assist the JUPITER board of directors in determining a reasonable price for JUPITER in contemplating any transaction with any acquirer/merger candidate.

Although Management is encouraged at this stage of the discussions, no assurances can be given that an acquisition or merger transaction will be agreed to by the parties or that such a transaction will be approved by our shareholders, if required.

The entertainment spin-off, although delayed, is moving forward diligently. The abovementioned corporate plans, plus the Company's efforts to become current with its periodic filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission have required the Company to prioritize these efforts. The Company plans to provide a further update regarding the spin off of its entertainment interests in the near future.

ABOUT JUPITER GLOBAL HOLDINGS, CORP.

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. is a holding company with interests and developments in a diverse number of growing industries. JUPITER plans to achieve a leadership position through the building of a synergistic network of innovative, profitable and global businesses.

Statements contained herein that are not based on historical fact are "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. JUPITER Global Holdings Corp. intends that such forward-looking statements be subject to the safe harbor created thereby. Such forward-looking statements are based on current assumptions but involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause JUPITER Global Holdings Corp. actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from current expectations. These risks include economic, competitive, governmental, technological and other factors discussed in JUPITER Global Holdings Corp. applicable public filings on record with the U.S Securities and Exchange Commission which can be viewed at its website at http://www.sec.gov

Please visit our website: www.jupiterglobal.net

For more information please contact:
JUPITER Global Shareholder Services
Phone: 1.800.963.6532
Email Address: Email Contact
 
Posted by one2watchny on :
 

 
Posted by one2watchny on :
 

 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Not exactly the blockbuster news we were looking for!
 
Posted by kilerb on :
 
Wow, a PR about future PR's... LOVE IT! lol... Oh well.
 
Posted by homeinalberta on :
 
That's what we bin holdin' our breathe for?
 
Posted by one2watchny on :
 
sell-off coming [Frown]
 
Posted by Squire38 on :
 
Sell 'em, me and the MMs will buy them. Another 100 MM signal.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Wow. Piss poor. They shouldn't have released at PR at all.
yup, sell off coming
 
Posted by MB on :
 
sold..will buy back lower. [Frown]
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
Wow, I sold for a 60% gain from 0003. Was hoping this would be the one we were waiting for but damn I was wrong!
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
sold...will never buy back. Just kidding, but this is a shame.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Wow, those numbers blew my socks off... [Smile]
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Sure am glad I'm sitting on 2 mill free shares. Now if something big happens I'm still in and if not I lose nothing.

GL to all
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
yikes [Frown]
 
Posted by JHAWK01 on :
 
NOT THE NEWS OR RESULTS WE WERE LOOKING FOR...
 
Posted by Graham Charitable Trust on :
 
had to free up some money, sold. might get back in if it dips more, shoulda woulda coulda sold * .0008
 
Posted by yourdiligence on :
 
I don't know if I blame them for not releasing numbers at this point--especially if they are in any kind of serious kind of discussions and perhaps the numbers haven't come out in Jupiter's favor thus far. This PR was basically saying 'we're progressing' but like a poster above it kind of makes you say why release this kind of 'news' at all? One theory--a shot across the bow that more-concrete guidance is not far away--acquisition/merger, entertainment spin-off and full SEC filing compliance. Today's news is shaking out a number of tired holders and allowing MMs and others to load-up at lower levels.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Avg'ing up and bot 10 million more
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
I jumped out at .0005, took my 25% gain on 2 mill of my shares in this, still hold about 500k but i think this may be a while, oh well, not what I was hoping for or expecting, should have sold yesterday at .0010 :-(
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
we beg these people for a PR even though they weren't ready and then we're mad as he11 when its not what we want. Well they bowed to pressure and issued a PR and told us what they could....."things are progressing". At least they are progressing, now lets give them time to finish it.
They are still working on this merger/buyout opportunity and that doesn't change the fact that when it is done we should all profit nicely if we hold,,,,,,,,or may be a good time to grab some more.
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
I guess it's true- time is money.

Hopefully this will bottom out at .0004 and those that wait will be rewarded in another month if not sooner.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
I'm impressed with the RB poster dog....

He said news would be out within a half an hour of when it was released.

He also said that the valuation is complete as of last night. Today's PR looks like the golden opp the 'short' mm's were waiting for to lock, load and cover. I ain't helping them.

I believe the valuation is done but won't be released to the general public. Let's just hope a SEC filing hits with the merger news before the weekend
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
I'm impressed with the RB poster dog....

He said news would be out within a half an hour of when it was released.

He also said that the valuation is complete as of last night. Today's PR looks like the golden opp the 'short' mm's were waiting for to lock, load and cover. I ain't helping them.

I believe the valuation is done but won't be released to the general public. Let's just hope a SEC filing hits with the merger news before the weekend

What are you talking about?
The dogcatcher has been saying for days that news would be out.
He may be a dog catcher but he's in my doghouse.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
He specifically said "news within 30 min"


And it came out within 30 min of that post

take it fwiw
 
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
 
Posted by Pay Up March 6 This is from Dog on other board
JPHC: We are hearing that the Company will definitely get their valuation some time today. We are still hearing that it is going to be dynamite. As far as the timing goes....we are hearing that there will definitely be an announcement withing the next 24 hours. So keep the faith and let's have a nice ride.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
Did it knock your socks off?
WAs it dynamite?
 
Posted by OnceApenny on :
 
Think JPHC got a lot of you AGAIN by the balls.
But I warned you for this dilluted POS.
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
well i got in at 3, sold some at 5 and 6 on the way down, so i'm just in for the ride now... serves me right for trying to be greedy.. oh well.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
IMO, today's PR was a result of investors clamoring for news. They are not done with their talks yet so all they could say was that "things are progressing" which in itself is a good thing. When talks are finalized and they have something to say, then they will let us know. I think they would have been better off to wait until then but you can bet that if anyone at the company reads any of these boards the next PR will have meat to it.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
Same here Rocky... but hey it's the stockmarket.... what can i say it's like taking a bus ride in a foreign country while being blindfolded... after the fact we all know what to do... but during the trip... we're never sure where or when to get off!!!! It's a learning curve!!!

I, however, think that we will be seeing some more action in the next week... not necessarily tomorrow...but possibly friday or next week for sure when another PR is out!!! 'til then i'll be on the bus and following my other senses!!!!

A good one to everyone!
JW
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
the PR said "The Company is pleased to inform its shareholders that the preliminary discussions with a potential acquirer/merger candidate are ongoing and progressing well."

Preliminary means the opening or 1st round of talks.
Potential; everyone who looks at a car in the dealers window is a potential buyer.
So this could take a while or just fall through.
So we might as well check out some other stocks and not let this thing get us excited.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
So when AT&T announces it's preliminary intention to acquire Bellsouth for $67 billion, you wouldn't be excited? Just another person looking at a car in the window?

1,000 different ways to analyze today's (and past) PR's

Ask started to improve towards end of day. Only time will tell how this pans out.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
You make a good point roiresearch, its all in how it's perceived. The point is that everyone expected a killer PR today and they are just not ready yet.
I think that they felt they had to put out a PR today because of all the calls they had been getting from investors. If this is true then the news that we've been waiting for is still coming and we can still expect it to be as good as ever, just not as soon as we thought.
I hate to be the one to say it, because I hear it all the time, but this really is a good time to pick up some cheap shares.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
So when AT&T announces it's preliminary intention to acquire Bellsouth for $67 billion, you wouldn't be excited? Just another person looking at a car in the window?

1,000 different ways to analyze today's (and past) PR's

Ask started to improve towards end of day. Only time will tell how this pans out.

At least with AT&T they said who is involved which means much more than an unknown. If it's a big name like AT&T or Bellsouth that makes it exciting because both are big names.
WE don't know who the other party is here and JPHC certainly is not a big name.
You are not comparing the same thing here.
Would you rather have a moped or a Harley?
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
If you do read dogcatcher's posts on RB, you will see during the 1st week of January 2006, dogcatcher hinted that rumors were flying around regarding a buyout/merger.

It's been about 3 months. I think things are more than just preliminary. Until it's in writing, it will be preliminary.

From 2/28/06 PR: "Key items such as the execution of definitive documents and the finalization of the previously announced independent valuation report are some of the items that are required for the negotiations to result in preliminary and final agreements."

We are preliminary. We need:
1) execution of definitive documents
2) finalization of independent evaluation

We get those 2 things and we just moved from preliminary to final

According to dogcatcher, the valuation was completetd on 3/6/06

Now all we need is for it to be in writing, and then the PR will hit the wire. It's easy to take what's in the PR's to fit your agenda - are you long, short, undecided....

I'm long and I'll make my long argument.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
I'm long and should buy more because I still feel this will happen. How big it is all depends on who else is involved.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
I still feel it will happen to and probably sooner than later. This is the world of pinks, follow your instinct.
Never go all in on one of these stocks, but sometimes one comes along that you feel like you had better get some while its cheap.
Thats my feeling now. I have just shy of 3.5M and will pick up more if it dips again.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by pay up:
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
So when AT&T announces it's preliminary intention to acquire Bellsouth for $67 billion, you wouldn't be excited? Just another person looking at a car in the window?

1,000 different ways to analyze today's (and past) PR's

Ask started to improve towards end of day. Only time will tell how this pans out.

At least with AT&T they said who is involved which means much more than an unknown. If it's a big name like AT&T or Bellsouth that makes it exciting because both are big names.
WE don't know who the other party is here and JPHC certainly is not a big name.
You are not comparing the same thing here.
Would you rather have a moped or a Harley?

Let's be fair. You also can't purchase a Harley for the price of a moped.

We are talking about two completely different levels here. The biggest problem was the expectations that we were going to get solid news. Those who believed and did not recieve were disillusioned and have or are selling.

I for one did not put much stock in the rumors. I'm riding free shares and can wait it out. News will only come when the company is ready.

Remember JPHC never said they were going to release any information. This expectation is not their fault.

One thing I did glean from the PR is that we should not expect them to release the valuation publicly since they stated it was for internal use by the BOD.

There are only 2 choices here, relax and hold on OR sell get out and move on. None of the complaints or defenses are going to change anything.

GLTA
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
I agree, we need to be patient.
I bought WMDH last Aug. at .05, $500. worth.
Last month it shot up to .98.
I sold at .75 and made $7000. profit off of $500.
It would be nice to repeat that but I can't expect it.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Well said Wally. The disillusioned sold causing a panic in my opinion. The problem is they have to sort the hype from the reality. The talks are ongoing and I can wait. Nobody is going to be rushed into a merger/buyout just to keep the investors happy.
The Company is pleased to inform its shareholders that the preliminary discussions with a potential acquirer/merger candidate are ongoing and progressing well.
Be patient or move on and keep it on radar,,,,it's going to happen.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Let's see if I can piece something together. I like to play detective in times of "quietness"

http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060111/0105915.html
VoxBox World Telecom Inc., Through Its Partnership With Gulf Coast Wireless to Provide VoxBox VoIP Solution for an Apartment Complex in the Tampa Bay, Florida Area

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdpcm/is_200508/ai_n14910303
Sprint Nextel Corp. said on Tuesday it agreed to buy two affiliates, IWO Holdings and Gulf Coast Wireless, for $714.5 million including debt, resolving legal issues with the companies.

I can't help but notice how the merger/buyout news starting in Jan '06. If you research the Sprint/Nextel acquisition of Gulf Coast, it happened late in the Q4'05 - a percon can dream, can't they?
 
Posted by 30CentRunner on :
 
BLUE ISLAND, IL--(MARKET WIRE)--Dec 13, 2005 -- RushNet, Inc. (Other OTC:RSHN.PK - News) is pleased to announce that Shaw's Supermarkets -- a New England grocery giant and itself a subsidiary of Albertsons food & drug retail empire -- has approved Ginseng Rush(TM) and Ginseng Rush XXX(TM) for sale in over 100 of its 206 stores. Commencing in early 2006, the two licensed beverages will be merchandised in "reach-in" coolers, with 4-packs coming to shelf-sets soon thereafter.
RushNet also declared that Vitamin Cottage Natural Grocers, a leading natural foods chain based in Colorado and New Mexico, has approved Ginseng Rush(TM) and Ginseng Rush XXX(TM) for sale in all of its 25 stores.

Robert Corr, president of RushNet, Inc., commented, "We are delighted to welcome Shaw's and Vitamin Cottage to our rapidly expanding list of important retail clients. With the addition of these two retail groups, Shaw's on the East Coast and Vitamin Cottage in Colorado/New Mexico, consumers can now enjoy Rush products throughout America."

Shaw's Supermarkets

Founded in 1860, Shaw's Supermarkets operates 206 stores in New England (Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island and Connecticut) and employs over 30,000 associates. The Albertsons group, which owns 2,503 retail food/drug stores in 38 states, purchased Shaw's in 2004.

Vitamin Cottage

Vitamin Cottage Natural Grocers owns and operates 25 natural foods marts in Colorado and New Mexico. In 2005, the Colorado Department of Agriculture named Vitamin Cottage "Grocer of the Year."

RushNet, Inc.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
Do you know when the Sprint - Gulf Coast deal was completed?
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
30 cent you are in the wrong thread, this is not RSHN
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Here is a great one:

http://www.presolutions.com/PressCenter.aspx?p=Incomm_Acquisition
Feb 23, 2006
InComm signs definitive agreement to acquire PRE Holdings, Inc.


Acquisition will solidify InComm as the clear leader in the prepaid industry


GUESS WHAT?????

PRE Holdings offers multiple long-distance products from well-known providers including:

Dial World

Sprint

Macro Communications
http://www.presolutions.com/Retailers.aspx?p=Retailers_ProductSuite_LongDistance
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Well today I guess we will find out just how many got scared from the fluff PR. Keep in mind that the good things we expected in the form of a PR are in their words Progressing well.
It may not happen this week but its coming.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=JPHC&p=D&b=6&g=0&id=p63253439408

Well we hit the 50 SMA yesterday as support

For shorter term traders, the 20 SMA is about to cross the 50

Stochs were approaching overbought levels, but never really had a chance to peak out and create a nice rally. A bigger gap at the open a day or two ago would have done it.

MACD and PPO still trending up. JPHC still has legs.

I'm curious to see if the Incomm 2/23/06 acquisition news of PRE Holdings is related to Macro/JPHC. PRE Holdings located in Atlanta, GA - hmmmm
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
I agree that JPHC still has legs... now is the time to buy, not exit. After the valuation and marger/aquisition news, that will make for a better exit point if you are not playing this for the long haul
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
anyone know what this means?

a bunch of MM's came off the 4 ask and moved to 1/2/3. Then they also changed or added their bid prices at .0006/.0012/.01/.05..

JEFF
JPTC
SEAB
HDSN
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
That's very curious. At least it seems to be a positive progression. When you say they came off the 4 ask and moved to 1/2/3, do you mean they went to .001/.002/.003? If that's the case, that's pretty encouraging news.
 
Posted by Leritu on :
 
On 2nd thought, are you saying they are coming off the 4 BID? So they are moving down to let it go further?
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
yea they moved it down even further.. i mixed up my bid/ask.. should be the other way around.

8x6 at 4/5 is not encouraging for tomorrow... Just can't imagine such a big sell off, especially sitting above the 20 and 50 SMA. If we close at 4 today, it's not going to be pretty. The slow down ticks are not helping the situation either.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Dog appeared again on RB today. Talking about big things for next week, but nothing specific.

The .003 number has reappeared in his comments.
 
Posted by bmwboyee on :
 
this will be taken down evenmore tomorrow. i am long but it is really what is happening.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I doubt it will be taken down further tomorrow.
This is about as low as she'll go.
 
Posted by bmwboyee on :
 
did you not see level II going into close. I think you see .0003/.0004 tomorrow.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
level II's lol hahahah you make me laugh.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
here is what the DogCATCHER said,
I do need to make a correction here about some terms. It is a takeover and not a merger. The Company has stated this in their Press Releases. That is why as of next week the Stock has the potential to be trading in the $0.003 area. That is also why the valuation # has never came out, because they are negotiating a deal with the listed public company.
- - - - -
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bmwboyee:
did you not see level II going into close. I think you see .0003/.0004 tomorrow.

Yea and tomorrow is Friday which isn't usually an up day, except TGIF.
May be a good time to add more shares.
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
FYI: These words concern me..

preliminary discussions
potential acquirer/merger
Preliminarily, management
direction of the process
Management is encouraged
no assurances
moving forward diligently
become current with its periodic filings

That PR provided absolutley no sign as to how the actual numbers look or if the outcome is good or bad. The only thing they talk about is how good the "process" is going. Apperently, the shareholders shouldn't be excited about the numbers or the value of the company, but we should be excited about management's excitement of the process! WTF is that suppose to mean.

also, past experience has told me any .0001-.0005 company trying to do anything that has to do with becoming "legit", "up to date with SEC", "current with..." or any of that other crap jargon, means reverse split.
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
i'm not basing btw... i still own this, but that PR just pisses me off..
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10093080

FWIW the DOGCATCHER17
Just recieved a email from him 10:00PM 03/09/06
He said:
JPHC has inked the Deal, and Monday they will release the PR
The buy out numbers are above .005
We should see the insiders buying tomorrow, all day.
I am adding more in the morning.
I tried to sign up for raging bull to tell the JPHC people, but it didn't work. Oh well they will find out soon enough!


THIS POSTER APPEARS TO HAVE A HISTORY WITH DOG - ALIAS CREATED IN NOVEMBER - HE DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH DOG RE: IGTN
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/profile.asp?User=62598
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RockLobster:
i'm not basing btw... i still own this, but that PR just pisses me off..

I know your point of view - not bashing. You had your hopes set a bit too high on rumors. Well, the rumors are back

Next week JPHC will see .003 - .005
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
and here come the 3's..
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
i am seriously thinking WECK = Dilution..
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Back in big time boys and girls!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Last call for "BLUE LIGHT SPECIAL"
 
Posted by sonnybois on :
 
Agree with you, RockLobster

I follow the L2 since tuesday (down trend starting) and I saw WECK always on the ASK side. Even alone on the ASK side and with a very high buy pressure (like this morning) this MM stay on the first line of the ASK side. This MM has tons of shares to sell and I am sure we are at this price level by his fault.

I estimate at more than 500 millions of shares sold be him since tuesday.

Probably, he do dilution.

Not good and I hope the dilution will finish shortly.
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
hahaah

WECK just came off the 4 ask and moved his position too:

WECK 1000.00 10 11:04

10 shares for 1000 each.. nice
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
BTW that might be another MM signal as the BA immediately upticked to 4/5 from 3/4 and the bid is continuing to build.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Did we bottom today with the ridiculous trade at .0003?

Rumors are flying about news being announced before open on Monday
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
lETS ROCK!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
We'll see if the rumors are true about news today.
Lets go
 
Posted by reidler88 on :
 
what news is that??????????
i didnt hear anything,,,

what is suppose to happen,,or what was said???
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
the real dogcatcher17 reported there will probably be no news today
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
the bid/ask is up
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Am I seeing things or was that a 199mil trade!!!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
I saw a couple 9M trades. Someone's trying to pick up some shares
 
Posted by MovingUp on :
 
Best I saw was a 9,999,000
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
scottrade showed a 199m+ trade!
 
Posted by reidler88 on :
 
wtf is wrong with ameritrade,,, anyone else having problems or is it just me,,??/
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fishfarmer:
scottrade showed a 199m+ trade!

sorry I was looking at paim. [Embarrassed]
 
Posted by Deuteronomy8:18 on :
 
Morning all!

What is up with this stock!? I am showing over 121mil shares traded with NO change in price on one screen, but next screen is showing a price of .0495!!! Makes my account value look GREAT! But...how can so many trades happen with no change? And I am guessing that it is a typo at .0495


Ideas anyone? Newbie here, so still learning lots!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
By: dogcatcher17
13 Mar 2006, 11:11 AM EST
Msg. 36299 of 36324
(This msg. is a reply to 35706 by pennylanega.)
Jump to msg. #
Penny(s), Rind, Streak and the rest: I am only going to say this once regarding my previous statement. I stand by my statement. I do not control the Company. I do not control what they can or cannot say, especially when they are in talks with others.
I am expecting good news this week. I'll let you know more when I get a handle on it. I stand by my statement. I do expect to see some tremendous numbers to be coming from the Company. JMHO. Enough said. Good luck to all!
- - - - -
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
Can someone that can read a chart better than i can tell me some details about the last week or so?

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=JPHC&p=D&yr=0&mn=9&dy=0&id=p61959155485
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
By: dogcatcher17
14 Mar 2006, 10:02 AM EST

mgtman: I am hearing something this week.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
he's hearing something this week [Big Grin] ... good for him!!! I'm hearing stuff right now!!! Could he be a little more general than that??? JPHC stated in their last PR that news would be out this week!!!

I'm hearing stuff too [Big Grin] .... lol... good times, good times!!!
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
more from dogcatcher17

JPHC: I am hearing that the Company will put out the news probably this week. They will probably put it out without anyone knowing to keep the day traders out of it. What I am being told is buy as much as I can. My opinion. Good Luck all!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
We all know this merger/acquisition is going to happen. Make it happen today. Let's see the PR, I want to start planning my vacation.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
Can anyone get filled at .0004 or should I just stop trying and settle for .0005? I know its greedy but I keep seeing orders for .0004 go through here and there.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
I bought 1,000,000 more at .0005
That gives me 4mil
I figure this and XKEM to be the 2 stocks that have a real chance of $$$$
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
I've had a buy * .0004 for 2.5 million.... since 6.20 a.m. (Pacific time) -- no fill!!!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 

Common Stock 2/3/2006 P 1483170000 A $0.0001
Common Stock 2/3/2006 P 1483170000 D $0

Common Stock 2/3/2006 P 1220000000 A $0.0001
Common Stock 2/3/2006 P 1220000000 D $0

Common stock 12/5/2005 P 756758440 A $0.0002
Common Stock 12/5/2005 P 716758440 D $0


These numbers are from the last 3 form 4s filed. It looks like they have been buying back shares to lessen the OS in prep for buyout.
Total of nearly 3.5B shares acquired at from .0001 to .0002 and disposed of at $0.0 Looks to me like they've done very well in their buy back plans stated in previous PRs.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
well the price just dropped to .0004 so who know, maybe you will get lucky
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
Man, I hope that was my order.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
Nope, lol ohh well. I hope this doesnt bite me in the ass and this starts to run before I get in. That happened to me with GWGO, I kept trying to get in at .0002 when it was at .0003 and then it takes off and I didnt want to chase it up.
 
Posted by plni on :
 
jdg i feel the same way still trying to get in at .0004
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
Why would anyone want to sell at .0004?
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
well it's been back and forth bewteen 4 and 5 which would indicate that people are selling * 4 as well!!!
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
jarw
Did you get filled at .0004 yet?
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
sure haven't!!! If it doesn't... so be it... i'm holding 2 million that i got at .0003 way back... so i'm not sweating to get in!!! Win-Win either way! Just be nice to pick some more up before the news hits the market!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
Didn't fill, let's see what tomorrow brings!!!
 
Posted by yourdiligence on :
 
Added 20% to my position yesterday. IME further guidance about merger/acquisition could push JPHC through .0010 and perhaps well-beyond especially with breadth of the accumulation happening at these lower levels.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
this stock has already been past .001 with previous PRs. If the deal is done and evaluation is high then .001 is probably a low figure, I hope.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
When the deal is done and they let us know about it, this stock is easily thru .001 and headed to the buyout/valuation level which rumors have it at between .004->.006.

Just waiting on the news. Hopefully this week yet, just have to have patience.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Read the last 3 form 4s that have been filed.
If there was 5B shares outstanding, then from the last 3 form 4s approx. 3.5B shares have been bought back. The following numbers are from those forms.

Common Stock 2/3/2006 P 1483170000 A $0.0001
Common Stock 2/3/2006 P 1483170000 D $0

Common Stock 2/3/2006 P 1220000000 A $0.0001
Common Stock 2/3/2006 P 1220000000 D $0

Common stock 12/5/2005 P 756758440 A $0.0002
Common Stock 12/5/2005 P 716758440 D $0


Macro alone has $12M a year in revs which would put the pps at around .008.
Quietly buying shares back in prep for buyout, just what it looks like to me, jmho
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
so i went and bit the bullet and picked up 2 million at .0005 just a second ago!!!! Not much traded so far.... seems unusual!!! Minus my 2 million only 1.9 million.... hmmmm!!!!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
If the buyout/merger is around .005 as rumored you'll be glad you got the extra 2M shares.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
All this speculation and strange market activity is really making me norvous on this one. Nervous enough that I just picked up 1mil. a few minutes ago. There has to be some kind of news coming soon. please?
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
yeah no doubt.... i'm nervous too... a good kind of nervousness though... i'm hoping that we get news tomorrow or F-day!!! JPHC and GWGO are my ride out of my studentloans... ---> let's hope [Smile] lol
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
The ask is thinning,,,,,,only 5x.0005 left on ask, was at 10 on ask this morning. Maybe something in the works for this week???????
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
"The entertainment spin-off, although delayed, is moving forward diligently. The abovementioned corporate plans, plus the Company's efforts to become current with its periodic filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission have required the Company to prioritize these efforts. The Company plans to provide a further update regarding the spin off of its entertainment interests in the near future."

Stated in their last PR March 8th.... i'm hoping near future is soon!!!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
also, according to our buddy K9-catcher we should be receiving news this week!!!
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
well i think i'll give it until this friday and sell on monday if nothing comes around.. had my money sitting here long enough, luckily still made a nice profit, as long as it doesn't head back down to 3.
 
Posted by Ja Rule on :
 
Any news from the Dogcatcher??
 
Posted by db on :
 
hey rocking lobster, if you got in at 3 or 4 even 5 hang on it will run soon - look at the volume etc. what else are you thinking about doing with the money? this may be as good in a short term.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Still accumulating Rock. [Wink]
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
The selling has stopped, people are hanging on to their shares in anticipation of news. If we get the news it will pop big with everyone that got out trying to get back in.
Sure like to see the evaluation come back somewhere over .005. Remember the news was rumored to "knock your socks off". Lets see if it does. The elastic is about gone on my socks today, so it may be a good day for it. LOL
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
only 2 left on the ask at 5,,,,,Its thinning up!!!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
somebody got lucky and got 2M at 4. That was the first sell this morning, the rest has been buys.
GLTA
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
ok last day of trying to get filled at .0004, friday im getting in at 5 and holding on for the ride.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
Damn, 9 Mil just went at .0004, 8.5 mil * 10:50 and another 500k * 11.

I cant figure out who would sell at .0004, i guess someone who desperatly needs the funds for another play.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Good luck trying to get in a 4. Been trying to add at 4 the last couple days and haven't been able to get that much filled.
The ask is thinning at 5 and if news comes out, there will be approx. 0% chance of fill this low.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
This stock is strong at .0005.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Low volume day,,,,everyone patiently waiting for news.

Well, some of us not as patient as others.

LET'S HAVE THE NEWS
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
L2 looks much better this morning. When we get through the .0006s this could be a bananza!
 
Posted by Ja Rule on :
 
Anything from the Dogcatcher?? He mentioned this week...he got the last PR within a half hour!
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
i really don't have any faith in what he says.. 30 min is the difference between getting news at pinksheets or getting news at yahoo. Stay in this is if you think its gonna run, not because someone is spreading rumors. He was right about the 30 min PR, he was wrong every other time before that prediction about the PR.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
What do you think people. Its about 6:30 in Vancouver right now,,,,,,,,,,,think we will see some news after they open for business? Sure be nice.
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
no premarket news, 10-11 is there "normal" PR time, so we'll see.. if not, EOD.. otherwise i'm selling come Monday
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
We all know it's coming, remember patience is the key for these. Having said that it sure would be nice to get the PR this morning and run to EOD.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Takes a wee bit of time to do a merger or buy out my greedy friends. [Smile]
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
No doubt...
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
personally I'm wondering if news might be better on Monday anyway, giving several days run without the weekend breaking it up. A several days, in a row, run may keep the excitement at a higher level and drive it up higher. Which might not matter if it runs up to the evaluation price anyway.
 
Posted by bmwboyee on :
 
NEWS OUT :

908,500,000 added to the O/S. looks like more dilution.

it is on pinksheets dot com
 
Posted by Ja Rule on :
 
The dilution stinks, but it looks like they're cleaning house for the merger... Paying out the President and CFO, getting a new auditor. Seems to flow with all the other speculation. Would guess we may hear the news early next week. Fingers crossed!
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
they better counter this with some good news on monday.. or it'll be a down day.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
I think this is like when you sell your house, you have to pay off all debts at closing.
I think since this sends a signal that news must be coming early in the next week and probably on Monday. It sure would be nice and put a smile on a lot of faces.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Not sure how you figure this can only be bad.
First of all the last 3 form 4s showed almost 3.5B shares being bought upby the company officers and sold back to the company for nothing. (Read the Form 4s)
Second Yes they did issue almost 1B shares to clear up debt but that still leaves 2.5B that was pulled off the market according to the filings.
Third,in order for an acquisition to move forward doesn't it seem reasonable for the acquiring company to want these debts cleared up first.

This may not be bad news but a sign of an impending agreement.
 
Posted by Ja Rule on :
 
I agree, as I wrote before, seems like they're tying up loose ends and getting ready for the merger or buy out. You know the President and CFO wouldn't be taking shares if they didn't expect them to be worth anything in the future.

My opinion of course...
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Start your engines.....NEWS IS HERE!!!!!!

AFTER HOURS NEWS MEANS MORNING GAPPER!!!

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Notifies Shareholders of Significant Progress in Its Corporate Activities

LAS VEGAS, NV, Mar 20, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER" or the "Company") (OTC: JPHC) today notifies shareholders of significant progress in its developing corporate activities.
JUPITER is pleased to announce that its independent pricing analysis report is near completion and that Management expects the pricing number to be no less than $0.004/share.

This independent pricing analysis report provides two important things to the Company: 1) technical data on the potential value of JUPITER and; 2) a tremendous aid to Management in its discussions with the potential suitors to negotiate the best price possible for the Company's shareholders.

Ongoing discussions with a potential acquirer/merger candidate are progressing at an increased pace and we anticipate a continued move towards the completion of a transaction.

Ray Hawkins, CEO of JUPITER, commented: "The Company set a plan in place, and many of the aspects of that plan are coming together. Shareholders should be very pleased with Management's expectations and enthusiasm."

The independent pricing analysis report is a confidential document that the Company commissioned for internal purposes only to aid the JUPITER board of directors in meeting their fiduciary duties in negotiations with any acquirer/merger candidate. JUPITER retained Evans & Evans to prepare an independent pricing analysis report to assist the JUPITER board of directors in determining a reasonable price for JUPITER in contemplating any transaction with any acquirer/merger candidate.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
RockLobster, Hope you didn't sell yet. Tomorrow the MMs that have been shorting will have to cover and they will have no choice but to chase this thing.

TOMORROW WILL BE HUGE
 
Posted by 7 of 9 on :
 
Luvs, enjoy

Item 3.02 Unregistered Sales of Equity Securities.

On March 14, 2006, the Registrants board of directors approved the issuance of a total of 150,000,000 common shares at $0.0001/share (the Shares) to one individual for the reduction of $15,000.00 of accrued liabilities owed the individual by the Registrant. The common shares were issued as restricted securities and are exempt from registration under §5 of the Securities Act of 1933, as the issuances are deemed exempt from registration under §4(1) and 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as well as Regulation D promulgated thereunder.

On March 14, 2006, the Registrants board of directors approved the issuance of a total of 76,000,000 common shares at $0.0002/share (the Shares) to one individual for the reduction of $15,200.00 of accrued liabilities owed the individual by the Registrant. The common shares were issued as restricted securities and are exempt from registration under §5 of the Securities Act of 1933, as the issuances are deemed exempt from registration under §4(1) and 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as well as Regulation D promulgated thereunder.

On March 14, 2006, the Registrant board of directors approved the issuance of a total of 42,000,000 common shares at $0.0002/share (the Shares) to one individual for the reduction of $8,400.00 of accrued liabilities owed the individual by the Registrant. The common shares were issued as restricted securities and are exempt from registration under §5 of the Securities Act of 1933, as the issuances are deemed exempt from registration under §4(1) and 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as well as Regulation D promulgated thereunder.

On March 14, 2006, the Registrants board of directors approved the issuance of a total of 120,000,000 common shares at $0.0002/share (the Shares) evenly to two individuals for the reduction of a total $12,000.00 of accrued liabilities from Promissory Note(s) owed the two individuals by the Registrant. The common shares were issued as restricted securities and are exempt from registration under §5 of the Securities Act of 1933, as the issuances are deemed exempt from registration under §4(1) and 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as well as Regulation D promulgated thereunder.

On March 14, 2006, the Registrants board of directors also approved the issuance of 220,500,000 common shares at $0.0002/share (the Shares) to one individual for the reduction of $44,100.00 of accrued liabilities from Promissory Note(s) owed the individual by the Registrant. The common shares were issued as restricted securities and are exempt from registration under §5 of the Securities Act of 1933, as the issuances are deemed exempt from registration under §4(1) and 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as well as Regulation D promulgated thereunder.

On March 14, 2006, the Registrants board of directors also approved the issuance of 180,000,000 common shares at $0.0002/share (the Shares) to one individual for the reduction of $36,000.00 of accrued liabilities from Promissory Note(s) owed the individual by the Registrant. The common shares were issued as restricted securities and are exempt from registration under §5 of the Securities Act of 1933, as the issuances are deemed exempt from registration under §4(1) and 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as well as Regulation D promulgated thereunder.

On March 14, 2006, the Registrants board of directors also approved the issuance of 67,027,027 Series B Convertible Preferred Shares at $0.000925/share and 52,972,973 Series B Convertible Preferred Shares at $0.000925/share (the Shares), each to two officers and directors of the Registrant (respectively, the President/CEO and CFO) for the reduction of $62,000.00 and $49,000.00 of accrued liabilities from services rendered, compensation for which had accrued for each of the individuals by the Registrant. The Series B Convertible Preferred Shares were issued as restricted securities and are exempt from registration under §5 of the Securities Act of 1933, as the issuances are deemed exempt from registration under §4(1) and 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as well as Regulation D promulgated thereunder.
 
Posted by Ja Rule on :
 
These are all payouts as the merger is coming up. Note that the CEO took his payout in shares at .0009...80% higher than the market price today. You think he would take them at that price if they weren't going up?

Probably knows a little more than 7 of 9, who does nothing but bash.

Don't get fooled. Do your DD and make choices based on all the facts. GLTA
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Bingo Bango!!

minimum of .004 valuation (on a fully diluted basis)

How many millionaires in the making?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
so does that mean the officers will dump their shares on the market?
 
Posted by jp on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lostone:
so does that mean the officers will dump their shares on the market?

Lostone, with a registration date of 2002 you should be informing us.lol.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
All the shares in the above form are restricted shares. They cannot be sold for at least 1 year.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 7 of 9:
Luvs, enjoy

Item 3.02 Unregistered Sales of Equity Securities.

On March 14, 2006, the Registrants board of directors approved the issuance of a total of 150,000,000 common shares at $0.0001/share (the Shares) to one individual for the reduction of $15,000.00 of accrued liabilities owed the individual by the Registrant. The common shares were issued as restricted securities and are exempt from registration under §5 of the Securities Act of 1933, as the issuances are deemed exempt from registration under §4(1) and 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as well as Regulation D promulgated thereunder.

On March 14, 2006, the Registrants board of directors approved the issuance of a total of 76,000,000 common shares at $0.0002/share (the Shares) to one individual for the reduction of $15,200.00 of accrued liabilities owed the individual by the Registrant. The common shares were issued as restricted securities and are exempt from registration under §5 of the Securities Act of 1933, as the issuances are deemed exempt from registration under §4(1) and 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as well as Regulation D promulgated thereunder.

On March 14, 2006, the Registrant board of directors approved the issuance of a total of 42,000,000 common shares at $0.0002/share (the Shares) to one individual for the reduction of $8,400.00 of accrued liabilities owed the individual by the Registrant. The common shares were issued as restricted securities and are exempt from registration under §5 of the Securities Act of 1933, as the issuances are deemed exempt from registration under §4(1) and 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as well as Regulation D promulgated thereunder.

On March 14, 2006, the Registrants board of directors approved the issuance of a total of 120,000,000 common shares at $0.0002/share (the Shares) evenly to two individuals for the reduction of a total $12,000.00 of accrued liabilities from Promissory Note(s) owed the two individuals by the Registrant. The common shares were issued as restricted securities and are exempt from registration under §5 of the Securities Act of 1933, as the issuances are deemed exempt from registration under §4(1) and 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as well as Regulation D promulgated thereunder.

On March 14, 2006, the Registrants board of directors also approved the issuance of 220,500,000 common shares at $0.0002/share (the Shares) to one individual for the reduction of $44,100.00 of accrued liabilities from Promissory Note(s) owed the individual by the Registrant. The common shares were issued as restricted securities and are exempt from registration under §5 of the Securities Act of 1933, as the issuances are deemed exempt from registration under §4(1) and 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as well as Regulation D promulgated thereunder.

On March 14, 2006, the Registrants board of directors also approved the issuance of 180,000,000 common shares at $0.0002/share (the Shares) to one individual for the reduction of $36,000.00 of accrued liabilities from Promissory Note(s) owed the individual by the Registrant. The common shares were issued as restricted securities and are exempt from registration under §5 of the Securities Act of 1933, as the issuances are deemed exempt from registration under §4(1) and 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as well as Regulation D promulgated thereunder.

On March 14, 2006, the Registrants board of directors also approved the issuance of 67,027,027 Series B Convertible Preferred Shares at $0.000925/share and 52,972,973 Series B Convertible Preferred Shares at $0.000925/share (the Shares), each to two officers and directors of the Registrant (respectively, the President/CEO and CFO) for the reduction of $62,000.00 and $49,000.00 of accrued liabilities from services rendered, compensation for which had accrued for each of the individuals by the Registrant. The Series B Convertible Preferred Shares were issued as restricted securities and are exempt from registration under §5 of the Securities Act of 1933, as the issuances are deemed exempt from registration under §4(1) and 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933, as well as Regulation D promulgated thereunder.

This is old news...
All this is saying is they are paying off all their debt. This would make sense to me because in the event of a buyout all assets and liabilities must be taken into account. They are simply converting all thier liabilities to stockholders equity. This had to be done before they could correctly value the company.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
People you have to learn to recognize a good thing when you see it.

The company is valued 'fully diluted' at a minimum of .004 That is approx 10X current share price. Also included in the fully diluted .004 value are all of the restricted shares including the nearly 1B issued last week to settle debts.

The stock has been shorted and the surprise PR at the end of the day will have caught a lot of the MMs that have been shorting the stock off guard. This means they have been selling the stock that they didn't own expecting to buy back at lower price after causing the price to go down with all of their short selling. THEY MUST cover their sells ASAP because the higher they cover at the more they lose.

The fact that they have to buy and buy quick to cover and the valuation of 10X current value drawing in investors is IMO going to drive this stock quickly above the evaluated price. Normally a stock would approach evaluated price and hold but because of the shorting that had been going on and consequently their need to cover, plus the expected free shares from the pending spinoff, not mention that there will no doubt be a premium paid on top of the evaluated share price for buyout makes this possibly one of the plays of the year. all jmho,,,,,but secretly you know I'm right.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
i hope you're right... only have 4 million... but that'll do me just fine picked up 2 at .0003 and 2 at .0005 so 4 at .0004 = 16K at .004 not to shabby 1000% profit... lets see it!!!!

Hope this one works out for everyone!!! Been holding for 2 month now!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
i like it how they posted the news 5 minutes after market close... what ret.... man-o-man lets see this thing rock... i need this gotta pay off some speeding tickets--- and don't wanna use my savings to do so [Big Grin] !!!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Agreed,,,,,,,,,posting late made for a bad nights sleep for some of the MMs I bet.

Also will make for an interesting morning. Hadn't planned on going to the races today but I bet I see a good one here.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
get ready for what should be a blockbuster day!
 
Posted by ARTTEACHER on :
 
Thoughts on how this will run today? I'm looking to get in, but am not going to chase it.......what you do you guys think

thanks
 
Posted by mr money on :
 
I think this will move up considerably over the next few days.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
honestly, with a valuation of at a minimum of .0040 I think a run to .0015-20 today is foreseeable. Im holding till we see the actual valuation numbers or the buyout. Might flip it a couple times with other money but im holding my free shares from the last small run :-)
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
However, I also think that the mms will put up one hell of a fight to keep this down, atleast for a little while, then Id imagine that they are going to be scrambling to cover
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
l2's already going nuts, gapped through 5 already
 
Posted by Graham Charitable Trust on :
 
I chickened out a few weeks back when it went to .0007, Im going to try and get in at .0005-.0006 or maybe 7
 
Posted by ARTTEACHER on :
 
Thanks guys...will try to catch it *.0005/6
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
6's are almost gone
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
CRIES!!!

I HAVE NO LIQUID CAPITAL!!!! DAM*IT ALL TO HECK!!!!
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
Going to be a great day.
$$$

[Smile]
 
Posted by Graham Charitable Trust on :
 
f this, .004?? im gettin in at whatever price it opens, lol
 
Posted by Tape worm on :
 
LAS VEGAS, NV, Mar 20, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER" or the "Company") (OTC: JPHC) today notifies shareholders of significant progress in its developing corporate activities.
JUPITER is pleased to announce that its independent pricing analysis report is near completion and that Management expects the pricing number to be no less than $0.004/share.

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I do not want to rain on any one's parade here. And I hope for you all this thing goes thru the roof. But remember this is Jupiter's opinion. Before another company would ever agree to a price. They would have their own auditors do an audit. Just something to think about.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
i think alot of people are going to say the same thing Graham, so i wouldnt worry about slightly chasing this, or waiting for the 10 am pullback
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Tape, they hired an independent firm to do a valuation, I agree that this initial number is thier own opinion but the independent audit is generally used by both sides of the deal to gain an understanding of the company's market valuation. Rarely, (in this type of circumstance) would the acquiring company pay for another valuation to be done.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
7 is the ask
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
printing 8's
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
hey AJ, nope didn't sell yet, i'm still here!! should be an exciting day today..
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Glad to here it Rock,,,,,Yeh should be great, I see premarket sales already at .0008
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
8 is the ask
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Dont panic boys and girls, you know theres gonna be a big selloff at open.
 
Posted by JHAWK01 on :
 
IN ON THIS ONE AS OF 3 WEEKS AGO THANKS TO THE CHATTER HERE ON THE BOARD. APPRECIATE THE HEADS UP. LET'S ROCK TODAY!
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fishfarmer:
Dont panic boys and girls, you know theres gonna be a big selloff at open.


 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
mms looking for last minute shares, then again a 60% gap was going to be a bit much :-)
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
ask is back to 8 on volume
 
Posted by Tape worm on :
 
JPHC now at .0008. Tape, they hired an independent firm to do a valuation, I agree that this initial number is thier own opinion but the independent audit is generally used by both sides of the deal to gain an understanding of the company's market valuation. Rarely, (in this type of circumstance) would the acquiring company pay for another valuation to be done.

Jmoove I would never except another companies audit info. Even if it was by an independent auditor. They are being paid to come up with what the company wants. After all the lies that have been stated in the past now way. But who knows. Wish you all the best of luck today.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
8 ask falling
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
9 ask
 
Posted by Baxter on :
 
You can bet that anybody interested in buying this company is involved in the valuation. JPHC can't buy the valuation they want... I am auditor, and with all of the problems of late (Enron,etc...) we take the most conservative road possible.

GLTA
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
wow 9 ask falling fast, almost gone 3 left
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
this is going to be a monster, 10's are falling on little volume, almost gone
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
printing .001 and already 260 million traded... market hasn't even ben open 7 mins [Big Grin] --> "I'm lovin' it" [Smile]
 
Posted by nomed on :
 
Looks like a BIG short squeeze to me....
 
Posted by Graham Charitable Trust on :
 
lets MOVE!
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
how are the l2's looking?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
once we get through the resistance at .0010, i think 15 is our next stop before major resistance
 
Posted by nomed on :
 
It usally takes all day to get this volume!! F**k ME!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
This is a no brainer,,,,,,any chance to buy under .004 is a winner.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
minor shake coming
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
the pr is too good to be true
 
Posted by Peaser01 on :
 
In at .0008.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
easy fill at .0008
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
and back up we go
 
Posted by Peaser01 on :
 
Possible bounce at .0007.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
about 10 min early on the 10am stall lol
 
Posted by rv on :
 
what happened ? will it go up or it will go down like the last time
any thoughts thanx
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
ok, gotta run to a meeting, hopefully we'll be back above .0010 when I get back
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
The MMs got caught short and the people that are selling now are just letting them save their collective a$$es.

Don't sell now and kick yourself later
 
Posted by logical buyer on :
 
Cover your costs. Take rest for a free ride. It may pull back.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
it's either the MM's are holding it down so that they can cover, or ppl are not buying into the PR.. i had it filled easily at .0008, so it doesn't look like a cover
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
It'll be back up today --- i'd predict EOD to be at .001 - .0012!!! HOD may be .0014!!! that's just MO though...!!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
we need details on that merger to make this thing fly
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Baxter:
You can bet that anybody interested in buying this company is involved in the valuation. JPHC can't buy the valuation they want... I am auditor, and with all of the problems of late (Enron,etc...) we take the most conservative road possible.
I'm interested in buying it and I'm not involved in the valuation

GLTA


 
Posted by pay up on :
 
By: dogcatcher17
21 Mar 2006, 09:38 AM EST

JPHC: The Company's Press Release said that they were set with the $0.004 valuation. We believe that the valuation is actually higher than that. The exciting news on top of this should come next week. We expect that the Company will announce a takeover by another Public Company. We do not believe that there will be a letter of intent. We expect that the deal will be final. The deal could be between $0.005 - $0.008. This is just my opinion. I wish the best of luck to all.
 
Posted by Baxter on :
 
buying the stock or the company? I was referring to the company...
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
neither company can buy the valuation.
I'm sure whoever is buying it knows how it came out or how it's progressing.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
interesting what the K9 dude said --- he did tell us last week that big news was coming out --- yet it didn't get here until yesterday after hrs... I wonder if he's kind of right on this one too, a take over * .005-.008!!! Hmmmm just imagine... all that money [Big Grin] ... sure hope that that'll be the case, but i might sell prior to that!!! Let's see what today brings... without much more speculation!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
ameritrade has the O/S as 1.6bil shares.. it would make the company worth about $6.4mill .. i guess that is not out of range..
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
is this run over?
 
Posted by Baxter on :
 
just beginning IMO!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
The style of the MMs is so predictable here. They were caught short after the late PR yesterday. They are covering their positions now with the shares that they are scaring out of the people that are selling.
I can't blame anyone for wanting to sell and secure their investment, but you should at least understand what is going on here.
Even though they were caught short they will sell more shares that they don't have to make it look like the stock is going to tank and scare some shares out of the weak. Once they cover or once people understand whats going on the share price will go to at least .004
It may go higher, knowing that there are spinoff shares are coming and that .004 is the minimum evaluation and if there is a buyout which they are working on,,,it won't be a buy out at the evaluated price but the evaluated price plus a premium.
No one spends time and money to build something worth X amount of dollars only to sell if for what they put into it. They sell for X plus something for their efforts, the premium.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
That makes sense and I hope you are right, I was in this early at .0004 and then bought more at .0008. The only thing that worries me is the buy-out won't go through even though it sounds like a done deal. This should be interesting though..GLTA.
 
Posted by superman7 on :
 
going to test .001 here soon
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
As I typed that it looks like the shake is over and we are ready to move up, MM have had enough time to cover now lets move.

ASK X .0009
BID X .0008
 
Posted by db on :
 
I'm going to hold - don't let the price walling up at .0008 make anyone think this is not going to be a money maker - stand by your guns - if you want to sell wait till the price goes higher - I might sell some at.002 - ajman is right MMs are in playing hard - look at that volume
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
they moved off the ask at .0008, raised it to .0009, but the bid is still .0007 .. looks like they want shares, .. u're prolly right ajman
 
Posted by rv on :
 
l2 for jphc please
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
it's on pinksheets
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
get the L2 at www.pinksheets.com
 
Posted by rv on :
 
what is happening with jphc. will it fall or it will go back up again. b/a keep coming down. volume is good. not sure whether its a buy or sell. can someone help me
thanx
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
its a buy, i just loaded up at .0007. This is being held down temporarily by MM's. This will run all week IMO.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
if you have extra fund available... i'd get some more... since i don't, i can't!!! [Big Grin] .... anyone wanna loan me some $$$ [Big Grin] !!!! I'm thinking we wont have a problem hitting the 1 billion volume number today!!!
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Like usual, I expect to see a small dip between 11 and 12 o'clock, then we should see a small run up after dinner, then a lull, then we will run again until close. I expect JPHC to steadily climb all week to the .003-.004 level IMO
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
its really hard to get filled at .0007
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
ya i know tell me about it lol
been trying 2 get .0007 for 30 min now
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
thats odd, i got filled instantly at 0.0007, AON order
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
well now im filled but it wasnt letting me for a long a$$ time
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
filled instantly with .0007, i guess they were waiting for the right amount to sell
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
people buy at 0.0007
bid and ask ticks up to 0.0007x0.0008
people sell at 0.0007
ask goes down to 0.0007
people buy at 0.0007 again

this is getting a bit boring, hopefully the afternoon will be a bit better!
 
Posted by ARTTEACHER on :
 
I really thought this was going to run......blow through .001...was worried about trying to get in this AM .....
 
Posted by Baxter on :
 
Lot of time left. With them paying off their liabilities with the CEO I would expect the merger is going to happen sooner than later. I think it's worth holding at these levels!

GLTA
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
I still think it has a chance for a run today.

Close to a billion shares traded already and most of them are between .0007-.0008

If it can ever break through these levels then it could have strong surge up.

Nobody seem willing to sell their shares at .0006 so it appears we're at the bottom.
 
Posted by rv on :
 
b/a 6/7
any thoughts on why its down
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
yes i agree kt325ci
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
just hit .0006
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Just got back, last hour should tell the tale IMO, shes a sleeper, hopefully, intraday chart shows good consolidation
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
I bet the MMs were sweating it this morning and now they're probably just sitting back and laughing at all the people that fell for the shake and sold.
We've been trying to tell you to hold on, but now they will make the money instead of you that sold.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
just hit .0006

4.2 million traded * .0006 or roughly $2520.

I'd be concerned if there was a string of 9mil trades going through.
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
what the hell is up with UBSS and WECK, looks like they're succeeding in keeping it down, regardless of all the buys
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Its market manipulation at its finest. They were caught short and have been able to scare enough people to cover at least part of the shorting. Who knows how long it will take to cover, depends on how deep a hole they had dug themselves into.

The funny thing is that if we could have calmed the fears of the people that were scared into selling the MMs would have only dug themselves in deeper and caused a greater pop. As it stands they have been able to recover at least part of their shorting at the expense of the investors.

They couldn't care less what happens to the pps as long as they don't lose. As I said its MMs at their finest.

The only good thing at this point is that the stock is not shorted as much right now as it was at 4PM last night. With any luck it caused them to sweat enough as to not short it again as much as they had been.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
about to break a billion shares traded today
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
15 min intraday chart says this might see a late day spirt
 
Posted by Robbie English on :
 
Looks like she is going to run the next few days?? Any suggestions on someone coming in now?
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Robbie English:
Looks like she is going to run the next few days?? Any suggestions on someone coming in now?

If you buy in now, you would't be alone. There's been a ton of accumulation at .0007 today.
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
wow 30 mil volume within 3 min...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
all but about 17 mill of todays volume has been at 7 or above
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
getting ready to move
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
here we go guys...gonna close strong!
Hopefully lol
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
no biut really lol, b/a movin up .0007/.0008
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
WECK finally moved off the ask from .0007 to .001. Hopefully thats a sign of things to come.
 
Posted by db on :
 
NITE left from ask of .0008
 
Posted by db on :
 
hopefully it will stay at.0008 and then go up - NITE waiting for more money?
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
There are about double the number of MMs playing the game today, seems to be generating alot of interest.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
i agree, I'm guessing we'll see a lot of action for the last 30 mins today!!!! It would seem that they are taking a little break at the moment!
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
I think that we can close at .0009 by end of today.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
ramping up
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
yup down from 7 to 3 mm's left at .0008
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
Looks like the .0007 sellers are gone. With WECK out of the picture it should finally go up....we hope:)
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Only 3 left on the ask *.0008, then were bustin!
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
down to 2mm's on the ask.
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
UBSS off the ask
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
1 left at .0008!
 
Posted by db on :
 
alright! .0009
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
well that didnt last long lol, lots of sell orders at 0.0008 apparently
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by db:
alright! .0009

False alarm...3 mm's moved at the same time back down to .0008. Looks like they are not ready to let her go just yet.
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
lol...*******s
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
b a s t a r d s !
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
a break up from .0008 will be huge. It's been consolidating nearly all day in the .0007-.0008 range.

It's like shaking a soda can for a log time and then all of a sudden deciding to open it.

The longer it trades in this range, the more pressure that is building.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
nice analogy, i just hope that it wont lose pressure over night --- you better keep shaking it after hour soo kt325 [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Baxter on :
 
I hope it doesn't lose steam as well, but if it does we might as well hang on and see what happens with the merger. It seems like it's right around the corner. And if it ends up being .004 or higher, we'll be thankful we still got 'em.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
Since this is fully diluted now I would assume it would take a lot of buys to increase the PPS substantially. I think its headed for .002 by EOW but it will be a gradual rise. JMO
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
I'm hanging in for at least .002
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
dogcatcher says deal will be probably be done sometime next week. Even if it's the following week it's worth the wait.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
jdg257

When they say they say the value is .004 fully diluted they are saying that every Authorized Share is worth that. Fully diluted means that they count it all. It doesn't mean that all shares can be traded. By some estimates there are 3.8B reserved shares (can't be traded) which reduces the float considerably. Bigdogs on iHub has been taking a count of all that consider themselves long and holding which if his numbers are correct leaves around 200M freely traded shares out there.
Now if thats anywhere near correct then how do we have a volume today of over 1.1B? Well I'm glad you asked. Naked Shorting is the only answer. How do we combat it? Another very good question, but first the basics on how it works.
An MM will sell shares of a stock that he doesn't own, (short). This can cause investors seeing the sells coming in and the price dropping to dump there shares and cut their loses, if done right causing a slide in the pps. After the slide has dropped the price enough the MM that started the panic will step in and buy back the shares that he didn't have to sell in the first place, (cover). Example: MM sells xyz shares at $.10 and causes other investors to panic and sell and the price per share drops to say $.08 not much right. But if the MM sold 5M shares * $.10 he received 500,000 and bought 5M shares * $.08 to cover the shares he didn't have in the first place and only paid 400,000 that's $100,000 profit for doing nothing other than stressing out some investors he doesn't even know.
This is a very simple example, but think about it it is a very simple stradegy.
Now back to how we fight it. The only way to fight is to hang on to the shares you own. Why? His stradegy is to sell shares he doesn't have to cause a panic hoping to shake loose some scared shares for him to buy back at a lower price. Well guess what, if he attempts this and no one sells there are no additional shares for him to buy back, or better yet, when he attempts this if we as longs pick up some of those shares he is selling, he will only be digging himself in deeper. At some point he has to cover his sells and turn around and buy, if we have held he will have to buy at our price to get the shares he needs to cover.
The perfect time to have done this would have been today, because the PR came out after hours and caught the MMs off guard or in other words they started off in the hole this morning. If we had held strong or even bought up some of his shorts we could have put him in deeper. I am afraid we may have let them recover a bit today. If we had held strong the price would be multiples of where it is now.

DO YOURSELF A FAVOR,,,,,HOLD FOR THE MONEY, TAKE SOME OF THEIR MONEY THIS TIME.

Sorry if I bored some of you to tears with this over simplification, but I felt that the people that didn't understand what was going on today needed to know......eom
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ajman:
jdg257

When they say they say the value is .004 fully diluted they are saying that every Authorized Share is worth that. Fully diluted means that they count it all. It doesn't mean that all shares can be traded. By some estimates there are 3.8B reserved shares (can't be traded) which reduces the float considerably. Bigdogs on iHub has been taking a count of all that consider themselves long and holding which if his numbers are correct leaves around 200M freely traded shares out there.
Now if thats anywhere near correct then how do we have a volume today of over 1.1B? Well I'm glad you asked. Naked Shorting is the only answer. How do we combat it? Another very good question, but first the basics on how it works.
An MM will sell shares of a stock that he doesn't own, (short). This can cause investors seeing the sells coming in and the price dropping to dump there shares and cut their loses, if done right causing a slide in the pps. After the slide has dropped the price enough the MM that started the panic will step in and buy back the shares that he didn't have to sell in the first place, (cover). Example: MM sells xyz shares at $.10 and causes other investors to panic and sell and the price per share drops to say $.08 not much right. But if the MM sold 5M shares * $.10 he received 500,000 and bought 5M shares * $.08 to cover the shares he didn't have in the first place and only paid 400,000 that's $100,000 profit for doing nothing other than stressing out some investors he doesn't even know.
This is a very simple example, but think about it it is a very simple stradegy.
Now back to how we fight it. The only way to fight is to hang on to the shares you own. Why? His stradegy is to sell shares he doesn't have to cause a panic hoping to shake loose some scared shares for him to buy back at a lower price. Well guess what, if he attempts this and no one sells there are no additional shares for him to buy back, or better yet, when he attempts this if we as longs pick up some of those shares he is selling, he will only be digging himself in deeper. At some point he has to cover his sells and turn around and buy, if we have held he will have to buy at our price to get the shares he needs to cover.
The perfect time to have done this would have been today, because the PR came out after hours and caught the MMs off guard or in other words they started off in the hole this morning. If we had held strong or even bought up some of his shorts we could have put him in deeper. I am afraid we may have let them recover a bit today. If we had held strong the price would be multiples of where it is now.

DO YOURSELF A FAVOR,,,,,HOLD FOR THE MONEY, TAKE SOME OF THEIR MONEY THIS TIME.

Sorry if I bored some of you to tears with this over simplification, but I felt that the people that didn't understand what was going on today needed to know......eom

thanks for the explanation, it clears alot up for me. the whole concept of naked short selling was somewhat fuzzy to me until now.

But the big question is, where do you see this EOW? Can we still climb if the MM's are covering?
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
We will climb even with the MMs playing their games. We would climb alot faster and higher if we held tight.
The EOW is anybodys guess. The MMs are not stupid or they wouldn't be where they are, they know that the company has been valuated at .004 min. and probably will be bought out for more and rumors have it to be next week. They will not get hung out on this you can count on it. It all worked the way they wanted it today. As long as they are able to scare up shares they will be safe in playing their games. The games will stop when they think buyout is close.
 
Posted by yourdiligence on :
 
JPHC appearing to be coming off double bottom--MM games or no it's going to be a fun ride through March and April. I agree that longs should hold strong and not get distracted by MM tactics. That mention of .0040 ought to be a 'shot across the bow' for MMs because it could definitely be a lowball valuation and they've been 'warned.' lol
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Agreed diligence, with the rumors of buyout next week this will continue to climb games or not. The way the MMs were able to scare up shares yesterday even after the valuation of .004 is disheartening to say the least. People need to understand what they have here and not get shook loose, and we will get the pps where it should be alot faster.
 
Posted by Ja Rule on :
 
Only 2 left on the ask. Going up!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Well lets see if the MMs can continue to play their games today. They will if we let them.
Remember people the valuation is at a min. .004 and they shouldn't get our shares for less than that.
Rumors have it that the buyout is possible next week and when it happens, I hope they release the PR after the market closes to hopefully catch the MMs off guard.

YOUR SHARES ARE WORTH MIN .004 DON'T LET THEM HAVE THEM FOR LESS. HERE'S A NOVEL IDEA, LET'S MAKE MONEY ON THIS STOCK INSTEAD OF LETTING THE MMs HAVE IT.
 
Posted by JHAWK01 on :
 
I TOTALLY AGREE AJMAN! WELL SAID! I'M IN FOR THE LONG HAUL.
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
10 million premarket shares have traded and bxa now .0008 x .0009
 
Posted by Peaser01 on :
 
Gapping .0008 x .0009
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Bid just went to.0009 with over 10M shares traded premarket. Maybe they'll let this run a little today. OR maybe the momentum won't let them make that decision. [Smile]
 
Posted by Baxter on :
 
Gotta get past all the .0009's then we could fly!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Bids are building with 2 more joining at .008 its looking good for today.
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
i think she is gonna fly today! GLTA!
 
Posted by Peaser01 on :
 
.0007 x .0008

Might touch .0006 today.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
holding tight!
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
10am sell off is as predictable as it gets.. comin back up now..
 
Posted by waltwill2 on :
 
This is probably a dumb question, but i am new at this. What is a MM?

Thanks in advance.
 
Posted by Bob Frey on :
 
http://www.allstocks.com/edu/html/internet_lingo.html

Walt check the above.
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
what does the 100 MM signal mean again (IF that's a sign)? Is it a good sign? thanks
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
if this baby drops to 5 again im backing the truck up, and forking every last dollars worth of shares into it
 
Posted by sonnybois on :
 
The current situation look like dilution.

I think a lot of shares are sold by the company right now and probably during the previous days/weeks too.

Explanations:

1- Volume is very high and some MM (WECK...)have a huge sell order at the BID around 0.0006-0.0008. Happen many times.

2- We are always driven down after a good gain.

3- Huge dump when we reach price around 0.0008-0.001 and we don't know who is dumping!My guess is WECK.

4- The recent PR indicates a minimum buy out price of 0.004 just to attire more investors during the company share dilution.Dilution required to pay the company debts.

5- Selling under 0.004 make no sense since the buy out will be done above 0.004.

6- Longs have more than 2.3 billions shares (near of the entire floats). But big volume continue to be traded on the market with low pps movement.My guess is the float grow up each days + a bit of short selling.

7- Massive shorts selling make no sence since the buy out is very close. No one wants to be traped.

8- All we know that the company wants to clear the debts before the buy out. We saw some debts converted into restricted shares (8-K forms) at price between 0.0001-0.0003. I think the company converts a part of its debts into restricted shares and the rest of the debts will be pay through shares sold into the open market at price between 0.0005-0.001.

JPHC receives more $$ by selling shares in the open market than converting into restricted shares. Right now, the important for the company is to pay the debt before the buy out (next week probably). So, the company needs a lot of buyers at the open market to sold enough shares to pay the ENTIRE debt before next week.


But don't worry about the current situation because at the end of the buy out, all will receive a minimum of 0.004/share. I just esperate the buy out will be pay by cash and not by shares.

My opinions.

Good luck to alls.
 
Posted by Baxter on :
 
Maybe that's true, maybe it's not, but I think human emotion is the biggest driver here. you've got people that bought in at .0003 and .0004, and they're up 100% or more and they're happy to take that to the bank. They don't think of what they might have if they hold for another week or two.

My opinion as well. Hold strong!
 
Posted by MovingUp on :
 
The MM signals are:

100 - I need shares

200 - I need shares badly but don't take it down to get them

300 - Take the price down to get shares

400 - Trade it sideways based on supply and demand

500 - Gap one way or the other, usually in the direction of the 500 - trade, sometimes in the middle to keep the price right where it is.
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
thanks movingup
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Sonnybois, your scenerio above is one that happens all to often,,,,,however it just doesn't seem plausible for this stock at this time. IMO, it would be highly unlikely for the company to dilute the stock at .001 when they know that its headed to at least .004 in a short time. The valuation of .004 fully diluted means all authorized shares. It doesn't make any difference if the company is holding 5B shares to dilute, when the buyout happens those shares are worth buyout price (minimum of .004). Why sell their shares now between .0005 and .001 it just doesn't make sense.
On the other hand if the MMs are confident that they can control the price, then this becomes a golden opportunity for them.
jmho, but I believe it is MM games that are still going on, and the only way to stop it is to quit falling for their shakes and hold long. There is no reason to sell now when you know whats coming.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Baxter:
Maybe that's true, maybe it's not, but I think human emotion is the biggest driver here. you've got people that bought in at .0003 and .0004, and they're up 100% or more and they're happy to take that to the bank. They don't think of what they might have if they hold for another week or two.

My opinion as well. Hold strong!

I bought in * .0003 and .0005 a while ago... i'm not selling... i was up 200% (profit) and didn't sell... especially with the a possible buy out around the corner it would be silly to sell!!! I've been trying to load up * .0006 for two days now!!! If i don't make it... fair enough... we shall see!!! But all i have in mind at the present is buying and holding... nothing about selling [Big Grin] .
 
Posted by sonnybois on :
 
ajman,

I agree with you, it's very difficult to figure out why the company sold shares at 0.0006-0.001 while it can sold at minimum of 0.004. There is my answer to this:

The buy out will be done by restricted shares. The buyer will give restricted shares in exchange of JPHC's shares.

So, after the buy out, JPHC will not have $$$ but will have restricted shares in hand. So, with this shares, the company cannot pay the debts since they will be restricted.

This is my guess to explain to situation. But many senarios can explain the current situation.


Do you know if the buyer needs to buy the Outstanding shares only or all the authorized shares?
 
Posted by sonnybois on :
 
I found my answer in you previous message about the the Outstanding shares only or all the authorized shares.

So, dilution gives lest $$$ to the company.

Well, I'm holding my shares and I just hope the buy out will be done by cash and not by shares.

We will see shortly I thing.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
getting ready to back that truck up :-)
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
not going to get any at .0005 imo...if any not much at all...
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
bought 1.5mill more at 0.0006, should be a bargain long-term
 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
wow...glad I sold my shares at the open for break even at .0008. About to try and load up now at .0006
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
my order filled at .0006 tooo 1.6 million (total 5.6 now) ... let's see it!!!
 
Posted by Peaser01 on :
 
I played this stock a bit last year. If they were diluting, last year would've been a great time to do it IMO.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
anyone fill at .0005???
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Why is this even at .0005 right now? Shouldn't this be heading North by now.
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
i don't know what to make of this.. ask is building up again at 6.. yet the bid is fairly large with etrade and whoever EFGI is..
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
also with the good news about the valuation + all the potential good news in the near future, why is this doing so poorly.. i mean compared to any other sub penny stock, this one in particular seems to have so much difficulty MOVING!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
GWGO did the same... it's finally found it's strong hold at .001 ---- everyones waiting for a PR with them... similar to JPHC ---showing similar behaviour and movement!!!

Don't sweat the small stuff!!! It'll perk up with he next PR!!! Next week ?!?!?!?
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
I hope it wont close in the red though
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
i have a feeling 7 is the EOD number... lets hope i'm wrong..
 
Posted by Baxter on :
 
Nice (sarcasm)...this thing went up to .0011 on speculation of a valuation like this and now we have the news and it's back to where it started.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
I am long here but I am starting to wonder if the MM's know something about this possible merger/buyout that we dont. There is not one reason, based on the info WE have, for this stock to be sitting where it is. The same damn thing for TWOG. Supposed buyout at .08 and its sitting at freaking .02. The buyout is confirmed for Friday. I hate penny's sometimes. TMAN...
 
Posted by sonnybois on :
 
Read my previous posts for explanation about the current situation.

WECK sold at least 1.5 bilions shares since 3 weeks.

Be patient. The pps will go up soon.
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
Weck has a lot of shares for sale, holy sh**
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
lots of signals we know nothing about..

1317200 shares by WECK on the ASK at EOD.
WECK moved off the ASK and B/A instantly upticked to 6/7
WECK moved to 200 shares at $100.00??

What does this mean? Who the hell knows.. but i gotta think something is up.. good or bad..
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
The ask looks pretty thin this morning. I think we'll see green today. Waiting for the big news!

GLTA
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
Got an ask of $1000 on 10 shares. Anybody know what that means?
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
It's nice to see WECK on the ask * $1000.00
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
Is that standard MM signal ajman?

thanks
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
Lets see the PR come out today!
 
Posted by stockvaper on :
 
I just bought 1 million shares * .0007.
 
Posted by ARTTEACHER on :
 
tick tock...when will we see that news....
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Not a standard MM signal. He just set his ask high enough that he doesn't even have to watch it, but this way he stays active on the list.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
IMO

by tommorow you may be shut out at these prices if your not already in......

time table and other legalities push the timeframe on this deal to close by end of month


were it ends up falling after the mergers announced ( stated at .004) is still not certain, but will put you in the green

Again in the Green......


you snooze you lose


***do your homework**

Ohio_Trader
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
I would not be surprised at another PR after hours on Friday. JPHC knows that their stock is being shorted and that way it would make the MMs that have shorted it sweat for the weekend. If we do get it after hours you will see one wild Monday.

We are going to AT LEAST .004, don't get caught on the outside when we bust loose.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
hey guys this is my first post but long time reader, especially in this thread. I'm 8mil deep into JPHC at .0006/.0007 lets hope we get our .004 =)
lets make some loot
-cow
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
welcome cow! We're all hoping we see that .004. I bought more today at .0006. Can't believe people are selling at that price. Another couple days and we're golden!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
it seems like people were enjoying fighting the MMs and flipping. Huge volume drop today i think people gave up and are awaiting the news. 1 billion yesterday 160 million today with 1-2 hours to go? people catchin on. whoo hoo someone bought at .0007!
-Cow
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
i think we will see a nice run with this company next week, hopefully, im in at .0007
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
It's good to see that people are starting to hold tough. If they had done that on Tuesday Morning instead of letting the MMs shake them loose we'd be sitting above .001 now. jmho
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
0.0007 100 OTO 16:00:05


Hmmmm?? Interesting..
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
there are others on another board that are holding well over a billion waiting for .004 or higher.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Rock do you suppose the 100 signal (meaning I need shares badly) means that he expects news before he can cover? That would provide some satisfaction to how they've been manipulating this lately.

Let's get some news and don't let them cover.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
actually they hold 2.35 billion or more
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by RockLobster:
0.0007 100 OTO 16:00:05


Hmmmm?? Interesting..

pardon what does this mean?

And also. where do you get the MM signs? 100/200 etc?

my .02 cents. Im gonna assume that the MMS don't know that much more than we do. WECK has not been trading in the .0006/.0007 zone so maybe they are expecting news and don't want to get caught like the others. I dont know how to read L2 that well but i think that makes sense logically. Anyone know where to get good lit. on L2 and MMs? AJ you seem to know your stuff =)
-Cow
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
There are alot of good books out there if you want to buy or its easier just to do a search for level II and there's more information than you could ever read. I'll give you one link that will get you started on understanding Level IIs.

http://daytrading.about.com/cs/nasdaqlevelii/a/level_ii.htm
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
hey thanks. i tried finding books on it but a lot of it appears to be smut written by people who just want a quick buck, just get terrible reviews.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
this should be on America's funniest videos
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/buttrocket.html
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
that has 2 Freakin hurt lmao
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
JPHC thread is definitely not waiting for news........rofl
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Think we get a late day rally on Friday

If you flip through Dog's posts on RB, you will see he says we may get acquisition news next week. No BS LOI PR. Dog said JPHC would be acquired. Instant gratification.

Either a lot of us will be overnight millionaires, or just another set of high risk stock holders holding our breath.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
I think we should have been on a rally since Tuesday morning. That is exactly why I'm hoping for an after hours PR, so that we catch these MMs short. If that happens we really need to stick it to them like we could have and should have on Tuesday. If we had held long and picked up a few while they were shorting this week the price would IMO be around .003 by now.

They played hard ball this week, lets all understand that and be ready for them when the PR on the buyout comes out...eom
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
A LONG POST BUT AN EXCELLENT READ FOR THOSE THAT WONDER WHAT HAS HAPPENED THIS WEEK. POSTED BY VICSTEELE ON ANOTHER BOARD.

Posted by: vicsteele
In reply to: None Date:3/23/2006 4:38:07 PM
Post #of 2169

Thought this article might be of interest and help us make more money.
I'm new to penny stocks,so maybe this will help other newbies.Anyway,
I found it interesting.

Weekly Thoughts: Learn How to Play the Game: Invest Wisely and Trade Smartly


The savvy long-term investors never chase stocks up. For the most part that is
momentum players and daytraders where most of it or what follows is dumb
money. Instead the long-term investors use a couple of simple strategies in
order to position themselves. One is to find a stock no one immediately sees
has huge potential and accumulate. Long-term investors are not interested in
trading against the public mind or the dumb money. That's where the majority
of the money can be made but even more can be made if the base of a stock is
held extremely strong by investors. However the second is not to doubt the
research which is the underlying basis for going long and holding.


More and more investors are winning the game nowadays despite all bashers that
float through the Internet that has become part of the game. Floor traders of
market makers often watch CNBC, news wires and bulletin boards in order to
follow the market during trading session. OTC BB market makers (MMs) don't use
fundamental and technical analysis. However, what they do realize is a lot of
dumb money does use this newest nitch charting or TA (Technical Analysis) to
run a stock either up or down. To the MMs this is like taking candy from a
baby. Simply they will paint the tape and use whatever tactic to affect the
charting bands. Thus the public and dumb money they will have eating out of
their hands. Effectively the MMs can show a strong stock growing weak by
manipulating the close price in order to generate selling volume, delaying
trading time to manipulate trading activities, or even stalling the ask
without honoring orders to hold a stock price.


MMs follow a simple code of business when making a market in a stock
especially an OTC BB. That is the level that stocks will seek that yields the
most volume. Now this is very important because they make money on the volume
buying at the bid and selling at the ask. In other words, by making the market
they are buying low and selling high. Now smart money adheres to that rule, so
do all the market makers. They could careless whether the stock is at $83 or
at $0.23. All they care about is the action thus being able to sell stock at
the offer (The high) and buy stock at the bid (The low). To increase their
profitability, they make the spread as great as possible on as many shares as
they can especially if the volume falls off.


When they have mostly all "buy" orders, that's not the price that's going to
yield the most volume. They need both buy and sells to get the maximum action.
Remember, MMs play the volume. If the volume decreases and there are mostly
Buys that become a one way volume, Buy volume. So what they do is let the
stock run up to a price where it runs out of steam. They fill all the buy
orders there that they can and then comes the pullback one way or another
naturally or induced. During the pull back they can buy tons of shares and
flip them to those averaging down or trying to catch the bounce. At some
price, the stock will be relatively stable and yield the most volume. Now that
is the average price you will see


The average price is the point where a stock seeks a level where MMs can
profit on the most volume. So during the day that is the price that MMs and
momentum/day traders want to see the stock at. Why? Because they know the
public and dumb money was chasing the price thing up. Most of the time, the
MMs love a flurry of Market Orders which is a dead sign of an artificial run
or momentum. Merely it is money in the bank for them. Most get hung in a
momentum or day trade or by the tactics of Market makers, who are in the
business to screw the public every chance they get and the NASD is not going
to do anything about it. They are merely making the market liquid is there
reasoning.


The market makers have created an added complication to the OTCBB's chaos of
the already volatile intra-day price movements created by dumb money, momentum
and day-traders. MMs can not relate to long-term holders in the OTC BB. That
makes absolutely no sense what so ever. They feel a large percentage of trades
in the OTC BB market consist of short-term or day-trades, MMs merely view the
barrage of buy and sell orders as relatively neutral to the market. How they
figure it is when the average dumb money buys shares in a company, the MMs
feel or rather know with some certainty it is very likely that dumb money will
want to sell back those shares relatively quick on the slightest drop.


Now somewhat comfortable with this logic the MMs merely short sells into the
buying and attempts to take the stock down in an effort to "shake out" the
weak. Since it is tough to know for sure whether a move is the beginning of a
trend, or a routine shake out, this type of deception works quite well for the
MMs. What the long-termers do to a stock is surprise the MMs because instead
of falling the shorting has no effect and the price goes up. Now that puts the
MM at selling low through shorting and thus having to buy high in order to
cover.


Boy, when this happens, the MMs are not very happy campers. The investors and
traders are supposed to be doing that no them. Now it becomes time to pull out
every trick and tactic in the book in order to attempt to get a Bear Raid at
every dollar mark or percent from where the stock started. Could be a penny in
smaller priced securities? What MMs do is give you a chance to make a small
amount of money for your momentum and day trading style by shorting it at
these levels and trying to get a bear raid each time. Each failure is
compounding the MMs short position so they let it go to the next level. Now
come more deliberate tactics MMs use to coerce Bear Raid or panic selling.


Once the MM is caught short and the strength of the buy is overpowering the MM
will want to cover his short position. So the MMs call up one of his friendly
MMs and says some like "the weather is sure rough today." The MM along with
the other "friendly MM initiates a down tick about the same time. Now this can
also be done with a certain amount of shares such as an infamous 100 shares
flag. This down tick gives the illusion of weakness designed to hopefully
begin the bear raid of selling. The fickle, fearful, day trader, momentum and
short term begin to sell out allowing the MM to cover his short position at
lower prices. They will move it down quickly to get it to a price of least
financial damage. Problem they have is long-term investors in the OTC BB. They
start accumulating and buying comes flying in when they take it too far thus
the MMs took it to the point of volume again and not only investors the other
MMs step in the make money on the spread.


Alas the poor MM does not get to cover. Now comes various tactics like
stalling, boxing, or even locking the Bid and Ask for a while.


Of course, MMs aggressively deny any sort of collusion designed to fix quotes
or spreads, but a recent SEC investigation tells another story.


MMs have a vast resource of tactics and it would take probably more than my
lifetime to figure them all out.


So how do investors somehow manage to overcome the obvious deception in OTCBB
arena? One answer is indirection trading style by going long which the MMs do
not expect. In the war between investors and public companies on the OTC BB vs
the MMs, if the MMs have all the advantages due to position or other factors,
direct confrontation such as momentum or day trading hitting the stock is a
definite death sentence.


However, an indirect approach tends to weaken the path of least resistance
before slowly overcoming it. The most effective way is long-term investors
slowly accumulating and holding thus drawing the MMs out of its defenses
making them as naked as their short position. This is war so this slow
accumulation and holding for the long term easily achieves the desired effect
to force MMs to cover and knock off the tactics or bury themselves deeper.


The MMs when caught will especially use every trick and tactic in the book to
get a Bear Raid thus playing on the individual fear of most people. The MMs
feel they have information and position advantages over the investors as long
as the holding of the stock is in weak hands or short term holders. Since they
are OTC BB MMs who believe all OTCBB companies are not worth investing and
management is ineffective regardless what is happening within the company.
Furthermore, MMs know they are in the position to impose a great deal of
influence in OTC BB stocks trading when it suits their needs.


This inherent power of position enables the MMs to move the markets at any
time up or down. As a result, the only way to draw them out of their favorable
position is going long. Now this does not mean just any company but to
effectively nail the MMs, Longs must find the great company on the floor and
accumulate long before the MM tactics and games begin.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
I hope everyone took the time to read past the first few paragraphs and get to the meat of the post. It truly does describe whats been going on here.
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
i just can't believe how hard it is for this stock to move.. we're basically back where we started..
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
wow. if you wanna know how the MMs work this post has it down. If i had more $$$$ id help in further taking some shares off the market at the sweet sweet price of .0006. Tomorrow should be interesting. lets go JPHC.
-Cow
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
ajman, THANK YOU. That is the best article I've read in a long time. Too true. BTW, my trading improved overnight when I quit chart analysis on OTCs. I still look at charts to see where the company has been, but never for potential.

tick
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
I got to admit I still look at the charts myself, but where I used to rely on them I now more just look for trends. Volume is what I look for first anymore.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
once we get the solid PR it will move.

Dogcatcher17 said there probably won't be a letter of intent. The deal may be done next week.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ajman:
I got to admit I still look at the charts myself, but where I used to rely on them I now more just look for trends. Volume is what I look for first anymore.

Yes - volume is key. If you want to find a darling, and don't mind holding, look for low volume (lower is better) and rock bottom price. Count name changes and R/S history (lower the better). Search for news/company PR (use judgement here - look for a company goal).Check MM positions (the more lopsided the better). Read filings when available (the whole thing). Some of them are entertaining, better than a soap opera.

My most favorite (and profitable) play, I don't mind holding long at all. In these situations, sometimes just one buy gets the MMs all excited and they make a pre-bump (lack of a better word) and I may or may not take back my capital and ride free for the real run.

This is how I came across JPHC so long ago. I never would have posted my pick - I don't deal with ridicule very well. Since then, I've bought and sold this baby many times. I'm gonna miss her when she marries (=acquired).

Now here's the sad thing - the MMs run the pps down with their shorting and upset the shareholders, the shareholders carp at the company to do something about it and/or eventually sell at a loss. Several more steps in here, but eventually the company has to R/S, which is the exact opposite of what they should do. Guess who gets happy here? (clue - their initials are MM)

Fortunately, more and more companies are fighting back. One litte stock dividend (shares or cash, whatever) shakes out the shorts and puts the pps and market cap back to where it should be.

The MMs are meant to maintain liquidity, not manipulate pps. Hopefully, they'll 'get religion' before all the new rules are enforced.

Sorry... stepping off my soapbox and shutting up.

TY again, ajman, and GLTA on Friday!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Hopefully we start up toward our valuation price today. It would be nice to get a PR before market opens today just to catch the shorts off guard, we'll see what happens. If it's not before the market opens then after or over the weekend would be best. Don't want it during business hours where the MMs can mess with us before everyone knows about it.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
oh man. last night was like trying to sleep the day before X-mas. Lets hope Saint JPHC gives us some presents.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
seeing 7.. always a good thing!!! Well i'm off for the day... don't see much happening here anyways without a PR out... am holding for at least another week I'd say!!! Hope i wont lose my hair between JPHC and GWGO both have major news coming out soon!!!!! Money always = stress --- unless you have it... i just want it [Big Grin]

You'll have a good weekend and Friday!!! Gone to help a friend move!
 
Posted by nomed on :
 
Hey all, over on RB a guy called rider is countin up shares of longs. I've never been able to to sign on (RB). If anyone has a login over there, let him know I have a whole 2.1 million...ok?

and
No, he dosen't know me...
thanks!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
An Excerpt from a post by Vicsteele on another board. An Excellent read if you have time, the complete post is above on this page.

The market makers have created an added complication to the OTCBB's chaos of
the already volatile intra-day price movements created by dumb money, momentum
and day-traders. MMs can not relate to long-term holders in the OTC BB. That
makes absolutely no sense what so ever. They feel a large percentage of trades
in the OTC BB market consist of short-term or day-trades, MMs merely view the
barrage of buy and sell orders as relatively neutral to the market. How they
figure it is when the average dumb money buys shares in a company, the MMs
feel or rather know with some certainty it is very likely that dumb money will
want to sell back those shares relatively quick on the slightest drop.


Now somewhat comfortable with this logic the MMs merely short sells into the
buying and attempts to take the stock down in an effort to "shake out" the
weak. Since it is tough to know for sure whether a move is the beginning of a
trend, or a routine shake out, this type of deception works quite well for the
MMs. What the long-termers do to a stock is surprise the MMs because instead
of falling the shorting has no effect and the price goes up. Now that puts the
MM at selling low through shorting and thus having to buy high in order to
cover.

The point is, if we hold long we screw up the MMs and take some of their money for a change.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
i think were staying under 100mil in volume today. any takers?
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
I'd take that bet since we're at 57M now about an hour and ten minutes in.

I think people will jump on for the weekend not wanting to miss the PR. Last PR came after hours, and I know that JPHC is aware of the shorting going on, so I'm willing to bet the next one comes out when markets are closed too.
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
man I don't know if you guys follow the RB board, but there's these desperate shorts on there that are imitating dogcatcher17 by using names like dogcotcher17, dogcatcherr17, dogcather17, ... amazing the lengths these people will go to drive the pps down, how can anyone with a brain fall for that?!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
got a link to RB boards? Man i love these boards by the way, thank god for google. Its amazing the MODs keep all the bashers and haters away. Great community here.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 


[ March 24, 2006, 11:29: Message edited by: sbrcow ]
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/cgi-bin/static.cgi/a=boarddirectory.txt&d=community
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
those boards make me cry =*(
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
ask is going to start to break down this afternoon, close at 8
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
hope I can snag some at 6 or 7 on monday though, a good amount of cash is clearing to throw at this beast
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Its starting its shift already the bid is building, I think you're right, we'll see 8 today without news.

Hopefully get news over the weekend so we have time to convince everyone not to sell and make the MMs chase to cover for a change.
 
Posted by eagleye on :
 
does anybody know what the L2 at on JPHC?
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
pinksheets.com has free Level2 on JPHC

bid 195000 x 0.0006 / 75000 x 0.0007 ask
 
Posted by stockvaper on :
 
Just picked up 1 million more.
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
Me too. Hope this merger news comes up cause I just got slaughtered from MMAM!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
looking good for .0008 EOD! still buyers market according to L2s.
Best Bid: 0.0006 (395000 shares)
Best Ask: 0.0007 (85000 shares)
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
lost another MM on the ASK. ETRD needs to get out the way with his 5mil.

[ March 24, 2006, 15:34: Message edited by: sbrcow ]
 
Posted by iOWNstocks on :
 
Hmm is it me or for the first time I am able to see l2's for the first time on my etrade account. I use to never be able to see it, always had to use pink sheets.com. Maybe they're finally listing on the otcbb
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
2 MMs!!!!!!!!!LETS ROLL
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
I guess it's not too bad of a close. This may be setting up nicely for next week.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
If this is a cash deal
I think .005-.01 is very realistic 1-2 weeks


an instant 10-20x gainer

IMO
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
I agree with you ohio. I would make a few buck if that was the case. TMAN...
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
i'm in for 2m, but RSHN is my baby
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
lets see i have 8mil and nothing in RSHN so this better 10-20x or else im gonna be unhappy. The company looks good though, voxbox looks profitable and macrosouth looks good too. If the buyout happens i am gonna be a very very very happy college student. If not im gonna be down about 1-2k. Lot to gain and not that much to lose other than watching everyone cheer for joy at the RSHN forums while JPHC gets the shaft. Prolly should have diversified. Oh well. Live in and learn.
-Cow
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
any news from the dogcatcher? news this week?? hopefully!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
what would be the best and worst case buyout/merger scenarios? assuming the buyout does happen.
 
Posted by Ja Rule on :
 
I would think we would receive shares of the company that buys JPHC. Best case is we get the valuation amount or better worth of another companies stock...IMO.

Don't know worst case, but as long as their is a buyout/merger, I think we're going to be in good shape.

my opinions...
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
dont know if this has been posted yet but looks like mr CEO and mr CFO bought a healthy amount of shares on 3/20/06
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1088199/000110801706000229/xslF345X02/primary_doc.xml
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1088199/000110801706000228/xslF345X02/primary_doc.xml
looking good guys =)
 
Posted by Ja Rule on :
 
Those were actually pay outs to settle the debt to the CEO and CFO. Leads me to believe the merger/buyout will be real soon.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
good read on JPHCs history.
http://www.stockpatrol.com/article/key/jupiter_u705
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
JPHC should come into play this week.....

JUPITER is pleased to announce that its independent pricing analysis report is near completion and that Management expects the pricing number to be no less than $0.004/share.


the merger will be a stock conversion or a cash deal....if its a cash deal (they) the merging company gets a discount...and info is leaning toward this

it could hit .003-.01 overnite,....and they are famous for after hour PRs...so no chance to get in if the PR is favorable


P.S.
GO RSHN , baby !!!!!


*do your homework*
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
Ohio Trader,
that doesn't make sense to me.
And I'm asking this to get an answer, not to debate you.
If it's a cash deal and the buying company gets a discount, like lets say .003, then who would buy this stock for .004 to .01? Wouldn't they be losing money?
Also, why do you say they are famous for after hours PRs?
Out of the last like 6 PRs only one was after hours. The rest were 9:30 - 11:30
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
cash versus stock is always at a discount, 99.99% of the time
 
Posted by netfreak on :
 
Does anyone think we could pick this stock up at .0006/share on Monday???
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
i doubt it. lot of people were buying at .0007 last 10min on friday. But you never know, MMs have been having their way with JPHC for the week and might be able to drop it to .0006. Give it a shot =)
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ohio_trader:
cash versus stock is always at a discount, 99.99% of the time

That didn't answer my question!
Didn't even come anywhere the question.
Also it's been said that this is a buyout and not a merger.
 
Posted by Ja Rule on :
 
I would be surprised if you could get in at .0006 as well. This climbed to .0011 a couple weeks ago in anticipation of this news and I suspect it will creap up again this week. my opinion...

glta
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
in my opinion it'll see a little gapper in the a.m. as it usually occurs but after hitting 8 maybe even 9 it'll come back down to .0006 --- i was able to free up 3K so i'm looking to pick up 5 mil at 6!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
JPHC all I have to say is look at the charts, who cares about the news, charts alone say this is going to breack out

Daily
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=JPHC&p=D&b=3&g=0&id=p99848916769

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=JPHC&p=D&b=3&g=0&id=p16337686439

Weekly/Gallery
http://stockcharts.com/gallery/?%20jphc
 
Posted by Ja Rule on :
 
A lot of consolidation between .0005 and .0007. Looking for a breakout. Fingers crossed...
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
i have my new $2,000 watch already picked out if this merger/BO goes. Be my first big trade in my career. LETS GO JPHC. BOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBO
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
A $2000.00 watch tells time no better than a $20.00 watch. Use your money more wisely by giving it to me. I want to buy property with mine.
 
Posted by netfreak on :
 
Ada boy pay up after you do that it will give you a bigger pay day than you will ever imagine..
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
payup by that logic then high quality goods shouldnt exist. If i wanted a watch that told time id get a timex, but if i wanted a watch that said "congrats on JPHC" id buy a nice watch that would represent no less than 5% of the profit from JPHC merger. Property however would be nice.......
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
I really wanted to see a good PR over the weekend so we could catch these MMs out short, guess we will have to settle for a slow uptrend to the valuation price until we get it.
 
Posted by netfreak on :
 
payup good logic no offense sbrcow, Make a little money re-invest, make 300x more and then buy the $30,000.00 watch instead....
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
who knows what is going on behind the scenes. I hope this isnt BS, but even if it is i have mentally braced myself for the bad news lol. All signs are pointing towards BO however. All of these news releases over the past couple months and the reduction of debt and the company evaluation? I mean come on it has to happen, just when and what price. Hopefully its a company that can be profitable and maybe i wont ditch all of my shares in hope for further gains. who knows my brothers, lets stand strong and hope for the best!
-Cow
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
The chart looks great, primed for a quick 10-20X share increase....let the money flow

1st usxp in at .0005, out at > .02+
then rshn in at .0009 out at> we'll see
now jhpc? in at .0005


up 5400%+ for the year .........

what a year it's been so far..............

GLTA

***do your homework***

Ohio_Trader
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
im looking to get into RSHN with my loads of JPHC money. I think RSHN has a great product and strong demand and could easily hit .50-$1 range end of the year.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
3/28/06 buyout

3/28/06 buy out!!

Click on the link to see what dogcatcher is saying.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
great now im waiting for tuesday. i still think there is a possibility for failure however, just to keep me mentally grounded. 3/28 4lyfe!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
OK, we don't know if this is true, but one thing we do know is this stock is severely shorted. If the MMs think this rumor is true you can bet tomorrow will be a very big day for them trying to shake loose shares. This means they will probably short more to drive the price down in attempts to get you to sell.

DON'T DO IT, DON'T SELL ONE SHARE, in fact if they do short some more in the morning to drive the pps down then we all need to buy some more.

This will put them in deeper and if the rumors are true, on Tuesday when the news hits they will have bid the price up to cover their shorts, which means the potential for the price to excide the buyout price is VERY LIKELY.

DON'T SELL, HOLD FOR THE NEWS
 
Posted by Ja Rule on :
 
Good news! Looking forward to Tuesday then...maybe we see a finalized valuation PR before?

GLTA
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
hypothetical:
What if JPHC gets short squeezed past .004, lets say .006/.007? Sell or wait for the BO?
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
IMO
if your scenario happens 1000% instant gain in the next 1-2 weeks( which is more probable with JHPC at this point in time than 99% of the penny stocks listed)

than either sell up or sell down..

i would sell an initial block say 25-50% if your scenario happens and then watch it very closely to see which way it seems to be moving,

if it continues to rise.....you can hold, or sell small blocks to capture your higher profits

if it moves down, sell a block, and watch closely and if it moves down again sell another block

Good Luck this week !!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
sb, when the buyout happens the MMs must cover their shorts meaning for every share they have sold short they must buy. We suspect that this stock is severely shorted. If this happens soon the stock could very well go to the pennies with them having to cover so many shares. When announced you will be guarenteed the buyout pps. Ohio_trader has got it right, just keep in mind that if this happens the MMs will play these same games above the buyout price trying to get the cheapest shares possible. Remember once announced you will be guarenteed the buyout pps, so don't sell below that.
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
Greats news about the buyback.

Is .004 still the target or has that changed with the news of the potential buyback?
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
alight thanks guys! little new to the BO game. lets hope for the best!
-Cow
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
Only 1 on the ask currently...let's get this thing moving!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
ya baxt i was about to say....we are seeing .0008 today. .0009 is doubtful however heavy MMS at .0008
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
why sell at .0006? It will not go below that again IMO...doesn't make sense.

Oh well, we move up now
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
People are letting the MMs scare the shares out of them. Until we get shareholders that are willing to hold thru these games it'll just continue like this. Once everyone starts to hold for fair value the price will go up.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
i don't think it's us at allstocks who are selling them off in the millions --- gotta keep in mind, that there are a lot of people out there and that not everyone knows or uses these forums!!! That's just MHO!!! No one panic, wait for the news, real news, not what someone said on some other forum, K9catcher may be on top of things or be the big dawg yet --- don't do something just because some total strange writes something on some forum! Do you DD --- use common sense people!

I gotta go move... looking forward to the news though, whenever they to post it! And i'm not saying dawgcatcher is wrong or has no clue... i'm just saying... that what he wrote wasn't news! GLTA
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
Score:
MMs- 1
Traders- 0
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
Still a lot of game left!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
this prolly wouldnt be so bad if i didnt see GZFX up %100!!!!!!
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
yeah, but it's only up 10-20% from the open. This will end up being more profitable IMO...at least short term.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
ya JPHC is 0-60 in half second. instant multibagger......anytime now, i got class this week i dont know what im gonna do, gotta watch this sucker
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
sbrcow, you're lucky....GZFX up %94.12! not %100!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
o boy 88%! wheres JPHC? trading down .0001!!!!
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
Up n down, that's the way of life! Check out NANN, that shellstock is going to pop soon after the reverse merger!$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
1 MM left!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Wouldn't it be great if the rumors of the buyout for tomorrow were true. We'd have to start worrying about where to put all of this new money.
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
Would be sweet...up to .0008! I don't know anything, but I've seen a post from the dogcatcher and he's been dead on twice. Maybe he's been wrong too...but it seems like he knows what he's talking about.

Let's hope!
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
starting its run up ???
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
Just like that, back to .0006. So, tomorrow's the day maybe....
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
8 trades after market at the ask. HMMMMMMMM
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
where do you see that ajman?
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
$20 says this is the company they are getting bought out by.

VPMD: http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=VPMD

interesting......VoIP and in Canada.....JupiterGlobal VoIP and in canada.......

Excerpt from latest news:
"This is just one of the components of an overall restructuring program of the Company, together with a major announcement which will involve an exciting new opportunity with a major joint venture partner. This development will be detailed within the next ten days. The Company's website contents, together with its affiliated links, are now being revised with information on the Company's new activities/venture partners and VoIP technology product offers."

Why i think this is the company.
1. Just large enough to acquire JPHC
2. VPMD has an interesting in expanding its VoIP market.
3. Both canadian based
4. VPMD recently announced plans of a restructuring and merger.
5. As said by the article the news will be announced in roughly 10 days, in-line with dogcatchers prediction.

HELLLLLLLLO VPMD!!!!!!
-Cow
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
Get in on that one for the double whammy!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
showed it on ameritrade
 
Posted by homeinalberta on :
 
Sbrcow wrote....interesting......VoIP and in Canada.....JupiterGlobal VoIP and in canada.

Not just in Canada either! they are both based in Vancouver B.C.!!
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
sbrcow,
That info you posted has no date on it or where it came from.
I'd like to know both, date and source.
I went to their web page and saw nothing under news dealing with that.
Please give a link to that news.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
god ur a tough one but ill give the sources anyways. www.pinksheets.com

MARCH 24th 2006

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?symbol=VPMD×tamp=2006-03-24%2014:09&headline=VoIPMDU.COM+INITIATES+CORPORATE+RESTRUCTURING+%26+REORGANIZATION+PROGRAM+WITH+CANCELLATIO N+OF+SHARES+%26+IMPENDING+ANNOUNCEMENT+OF+NEW+BUSINESS+ACTIVITY.&pno=22&compid=630311
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
Well now, shouldn't we want something to read to back it up? After all it's my money I'm working with, not yours.
We read lots of rumors.
So something to back it up is always good.
I read the info on that link.
Thanks I appreciate it.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
no prob bro shot, i know where ur coming from. lets make loot.
 
Posted by reidler88 on :
 
it says that vpmd is going to acquire a major joint venture partner,,, not buy someone out,,,,
i thought jphc was going to be bought out and not a merger,,,,,
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Either way it should be good news, right?
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
JPHC is going to be bought out therefore it is unlikely that vpmd is the suitor. Which is fine because we think their are bigger fish after us.
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
acquire = buy...maybe? Anyways, hoping for news soon.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
today should be the day. i think VPMD and JPHC have a lot of parallels.
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
the day for ?
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
buyout
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
printing some green for a change and sticking with it... i'm liking it!
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I finally bought some. The risk reward seemed to be about right here for a micro penny.

If it went down to .0001 I would be pissed but the odds seem greater it gets bought for .002, so why not.

Anyone heard any more news or speculation?
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
there really hasnt been many buys at all today, maybe 10, rest are sells, so.. but it is good that we are still with an ask of 8 though
 
Posted by miralake on :
 
Acquisition or merger????

The March 20th PR stated..."Ongoing discussions with a potential acquirer/merger candidate are progressing at an increased pace and we anticipate a continued move towards the completion of a transaction. "

This suggests either is possible. I'm pretty new at this, so which is the better outcome for shareholders? Thanks for any opinions...
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
a lot of the trades at .0008 now. I haven't seen anything at .0006.

I think they forgot to move the bid to .0007 on the quote.

Maybe if it breaks 8 it will start running.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
They finally raised the bid to .0007.

This is looking promising.

Hard to know if I should hold for the buyout or sell going up before the buyout.

I can see this running to .001 pretty easily.
 
Posted by rimasco on :
 
I see 002 in its near future..bought some here at 001. ill take 100% on my money every day of the week
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I think it could run to .002 before a buyout. I already see the trading slowing at .0008 as if they are gradually working through that level.

I would imagine most people are expecting over .001 so that will be where the market goes.

I could be wrong but I am expecting over .001. Just wait and see I guess.
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
AHHH...I'm getting tired of these levels (.0007)!

I know we have to patient, but come on. Let's just get on .0008 and hold strong.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
Do we have any more news on when the PR is coming?
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
How funny,

They lowered the bid to .0006 and about 15 million shares traded, now it has totally stopped.

See which way she goes after lunch.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
I think the MM's are messing around!!!
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I think so,

No trades for 20 minutes. After they lowered the bid/ask and the dumpers dumped everything just stopped.

Maybe they are having brunch.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
No trades for 30 minutes, is it possible trading has stopped for the buyout?

Just hoping.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
It doesn't really matter to me what the MM's do, I'm holding till the PR anyway. I hope the MM's get caught short and I hope they get screwed over doing it when this PR comes out.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
It would be nice if it stopped for the buyout!!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
2 million just traded
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
The last few million at the bid, maybe they are in accumulation mode
 
Posted by netfreak on :
 
DOES ANYONE THINK THIS WILL DROP BELOW .0082 TODAY???
 
Posted by indef on :
 
wrong board buddy
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
After about 10 straight trades at the bid a small trade at the ask.

They seem to be accumulating a little then selling a little.
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
Big deal then!
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I hope a big deal.

Bid back up to .0007, see if ask moves higher.
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
ask again then, Im also in...
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
No spread for the last ten minutes.

ESFS did this yesturday during their run. See how long bib and ask stay the same.
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
you right, it seems to move up on low volume today...maybe a run is coming...Also checkout the last NANN's NR and tell me you think about that..
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I don't know much about Nann except it has a 450K market cap, so any big contract or revenue growth should effect it a lot.
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
the recent reverse merger announcement seems to have a bad effect on market value, at the opposite of the what I think...that's the reason why I asked you that.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I was reading over the merger deal and it is a little vague to me.

Issue an amount equal to 95 % of OS.

so basically doubling the OS is what it seems to me.

Company they are buying has revenues of 1.8 million, with OS of 35 million then price per revenue = .05 per share.

I could see it doubling. Might be a good investment.
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
yes but it drops....
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Just raised the ask to .0008,
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
If the mm's are short and want to cover some they will drop the price. They would rather buy cheaper than higher.

Sometimes good news has an opposite effect at first. If you believe in the numbers just wait for the reversal.

With NANN the spread is really big, it should be fairly easy to see if they are accumulating inventory at that price or selling it.
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
Just wait n see.... Thanks for your though on NANN!
JPHC is also for me a big deal, everybody here are talking about buyout, is that rumours or just for the fun ?
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
The company said it in a press release.

No details have been released but the wording by the company seems to make people think it could be a good deal making them 10X their investment.

It may or may not happen.

Problem with holding a stock like JPHC is there are other stocks running and making money while you are waiting.

It is best to buy it as close as possible to the buyout so you can keep your money active and making money.

The question on my mind is how close to the buyout are we.
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
Anyway, nothing bad here, but close or not close, nobody knows, I'm not going to wait for weeks if not within the 2 next weeks, people should leave this penny. It's never good to wait for rumours because plans often change with the time...We are all waiting for something big here! in the short time...
 
Posted by yourdiligence on :
 
JPHC will likely make a good run before any official announcement is made. There will be too many insiders informed on details and so I expect abnormally large volume and hopefully related PPS move 'before the fact.' The timing is unlikely to be a total secret so IMO watch the volume--and don't overlook any/all rumors that have some kind of plausible basis. The MMs behavior is also key--in that they will be speculating on the same rumors and or inside info.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
i felt bad yesterday but there is nothing looking 100% to me right now. The massive GZFX run is done and so is the RSHN run (not saying they are completely done but they had HUGE runs which wont happen again until more PR). Personally, i dont think anything is worth pulling out for to flip for 20% gains when you could potentially get caught out of a massive buyout.
just my opinion though.
-Cow
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
wups double post. GO JPHC!
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
some have tried to link VPMD as the possible buyer of JPHC.
I thought it strange that from what I could find, there were no trades of VPMD today.
Anyone know why?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by pay up:
some have tried to link VPMD as the possible buyer of JPHC.
I thought it strange that from what I could find, there were no trades of VPMD today.
Anyone know why?

That's interesting, I hadn't heard that one. If true it sounds more like a joint venture project than a buyout.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
ya some dude on raging bull quoted my VPMD post. funny he left the blantant typo in there. I just happened to be surfing the pinksheets website and looked at the Latest News section and by total chance i found this company's latest post which was last friday. I honestly dont even care if it is VPMD i just want a buyout!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait didnt JPHC close at .0007? i just opened scottrade and the streamer and it says that it closed at .0008, After hours trading?
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
no, it closed at 8
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
No I checked it was .0008. I have Scottrade too. It seemed like there were some issues with the streamer today not as bad as the other day but I noticed some of my positions weren't showing up on the T&S. Anyway it did close at .0008. Hopefully a bit higher tommorrow.

If you are correct about VPMD, according to their PR news was to happen within 10 days and that was the 24th so it probably wouldn't happen until Monday/Tuesday next week.

It's really a matter of when the MM's decide to let this run. They've kept a pretty good cap on it so far.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by pay up:
some have tried to link VPMD as the possible buyer of JPHC.
I thought it strange that from what I could find, there were no trades of VPMD today.
Anyone know why?

This is very interesting......... last trade was on monday...this could be it...lets see if we an a.m. pr...crossing my fingers
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
ohio will you give me mad e-props if i am right about the VPMD buyout? would mean a lot to me *hug*

gonna make a further prediction. I think its gonna be a reverse-split buyout. 1 share of VPMD for every 10 JPHC. Which is on par if you multiplied .004 by the shares you own.
just a guess !
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
ABSOLUTELY !!!!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
ur the best, we should go buy a massive yacht with our JPHC loot, i get it for 1.5 months in summer and you get the other 1.5 months and we can rent it out when we are not using it and then buy some microcaps and make more money and have a yacht fleet. Call the company Ohio Cows. I can see it now.......
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
between this and RSHN could be a HUGE week....i'm gonna need a vacation....think i'm heading to florida for some sun : )..........real soon....

Cow,
it makes absolute sense or a timely coincidence, especially since VPMD was the company mentioned
and JPHC said their stock was valued at .004......hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

VPMD is priced at .04 and DID NOT TRADE TODAY...no bankruptcy was announced

could be the last chance to buy this low risk high reward stock tommorrow a.m.

connect the dots and it is starting to add up


***poof instant 4-5x time your $$$ on todays price .0008, yeah baby !!!!!!!!!!!!

most of us are in for less


GLTA


**do your homework**

Ohio_Trader
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
haha. i am in for 8,090,000 shares. I calculated that for every .001 i make i recieve $8090. Too bad i missed the RSHN/GZFX run. I only got 9k and 5 is in JPHC and 4 is in xsnx.
Which college student loves the stock market!
<---- This one does!

Ohio im thinking Steak N' Shake by the way, they franchise. YAchts have terrible margins and everyone loves steak n shake.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
buy property in tennessee, around the smokie mountians, especially gatlinburg....it is just starting to skyrocket.....fast forward 10 years and it will be very expensive, many rich people from east coast and florida are buying up land there for a 2nd home....and it is very beautiful there

back to stocks

you got me on shares cow, i only have 2 million, but RSHN...thats my baby and i'm in under .0009 for all my buys....


GO JPHC !!!!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
ya but i gotta buy my "congratz on your first big trade" present for myself and then i gotta use the left over to increase my capital to at least 100k. How much is property going for over there by the way?

and mad props on the RSHN. that is freakin sick. im jealous. Thats JPHC sized profits assuming this actually goes through.....

GO JPHC!!!!!
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
PR out ....will this happen today with VPMD ??
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
What does this mean?

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/060329/jphc.pk8-k_a.html
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
seems like they are changing their auditing firm
 
Posted by McShooter on :
 
Ohio_Trader thanks for your tip that got me in JPHC. I loaded up with 600,000 more shares yesterday and I am now over 1M shares total. Obviously, I hope that you and SBRCOW are correct about the merger with VPMD. Here's to a Green Day for all!!!

Longs Holding Strong...It's a beautiful thing!!!

500 into 100K...You Gotta' Believe!!!
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Will we reach .0009 today?
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
you know its bad when you wake up and think JPHC gapped but it was just PLNI at .005 ><
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
One of these mornings soon you'll wake up and it won't be a dream. [Smile]
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
wow, very little trading this early!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
are there any shares left to buy?! being been accumulating for the past 2 weeks
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
there are always share --- all depends on how much you wanna spend --- make me an offer and i may consider [Big Grin] j/k
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
i think we might see a little gapping action today! We're currently stuck at .0008 and have only traded 5.5 million shares!!! Interesting, wouldn't be surprised if we hit .001 today!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
neither VXBX or VPMD trading today.
 
Posted by cj on :
 
neither VXBX or VPMD trading today...is that a good sign for jphc with some things being worked out for the merger?
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
VPMD only trades 40-80K shares per day on average --- which is extremely little --- $2k-$4k a day --- that's nothing!!! And VXBX doesn't seem to be grand company either --- if these were the merger candidates... i think i'll be out when the news hits the market!!! Does anyone know what the o/s shares for VPMD are?

Anywho, that's all rumor anyways... i'm sure i could find atleast 100 companies that would fit a similar merger/acquisition description!!! And there's nothing, too, exiting about either companies named in the above... so... i wouldn't base anything on that info... as it's 100% guessing, no facts --- might as well drive to the nearest casino and put all your money on red if that's how you play the stocks!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
that's just my opinion... not out there to offend anyone... and i'm not bashing JPHC ... so no one get confused [Big Grin]
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
JARW the reason this matters is because JPHC owns half of VXBX and lastly VPMD doesnt trade 0 shares on average so it is unusual. I further think its VPMD for that very fact. They have traded in the same area for ages and are looking to increase their PPS. Mergers/buyouts often do that.
 
Posted by MovingUp on :
 
VPMD has just had one block of shares traded - 8000 and at 0.03.
VXBX still has no volume since the 27th.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Changing the audit firm is good news, it means they have a reason for an auditor. Perhaps a merger or buyout.

Since this goes back ten days it could be the process has already been started.

It can be bad news if the old audit firm quit because they refused to sign the audit because of insufficient information.

IMO it is good news til I hear any bad spin.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
something is going down no doubt...this block traded today was a clear out from monday (IMO)...to set the deal....looks like might price at .003, instead of .004 ( for JPHC)

this is going down by friday for sure, or will not happen......A. its the end of the 1st quarter and it would have some $$ implications if it carries into quarter 2 and B. VPMD stopped trading...with no PR...they have not filed a bankruptcy, its obvious they must announce something very shortly...as i am sure big stockholders have their phones ringing off the hook wondering whats going down ???

anticipating this done today or tmrw


IMO

***do your homework***

Ohio_Trader
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
sbrcow, that's right, i totally forgot that VXBX was part of JPHC --- my bad --- too early --- i'm a west coaster! But i have my uncertanties about VPMD --- jmho though!!!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
looking good fellas, hold those shares
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
ohio care to elaborate on the 1st quarter merger/bo $$$ implications. is it like a tax write off or something?
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
Good feeling on that play
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
cool, I might be able to get more shares at 0.0007 after all! [Smile]
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
A lot of trades at the bid like the MM's are accumulating.

Does anyone out there Know the total number of shares sold at .0007 today?

I didn't track them today.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
A lot of trades at the bid like the MM's are accumulating.

Does anyone out there Know the total number of shares sold at .0007 today?

I didn't track them today.

2 many
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
i must say, that black 8 looks good [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Something doesn't mesh with my ameritrade streamer, it showed just over 81M share volume, then about 8-9M shares traded and now shows 84M. Makes you go Hmmmmmmmmm.........
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
im showing 94.6 million
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
mine is 96 also,

about half of the last few days volume.

they just dropped the bid to .0006 and immediately several million in trades, day traders giving up shares I guess.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Now mine showing 94.6M but the thing is it was at 81M then all those shares go thru and it only went to 84M, but I guess its caught up now. Just thought it a little strange, must not have given it time.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
For those that are interested the DOG has spoken at RB. TMAN...
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
looks l;ike a lot of day traders are selling
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
For those that are interested the DOG has spoken at RB. TMAN...

what did he say?
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
that was a weird jump back to .0008 -- must have been a MM very minimum trade went through! Good for tomorrow though!!!
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
He has heard that the deal is on a fast track, the deal could happen next week and the price is going to be good. That of course is all his opinion (disclaimer lol). I am holding free shares so I dont care if it takes a month. As long as it gets a little higher, I can pay off my truck. TMAN...
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
The last few trades for the day
Price Size Exch Time
0.0008 35000 OTO 15:58:51
0.0006 100000 OTO 15:58:15
0.0006 1000000 OTO 15:52:07
0.0007 1000000 OTO 15:46:20
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
yeah that last trade must have been a MM who else would buy $28 worth of a stock?
 
Posted by jaztile1 on :
 
By: dogcatcher17
29 Mar 2006, 02:51 PM EST
Msg. 40769 of 40789
(This msg. is a reply to 40334 by sdachhenry.)
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JPHC: I only intend to post one time on this board this week. I have just found out the talks for buyouts are now on the fast track. We could see some news as early as next week. We should see a very good price in my opinion.
OT: For those with some interst.....look at MTDX....I just put a post out over there. Good luck everyone.
 
Posted by Hotrod hillbilly on :
 
weee this stock buyin' stuff is fun! I really like it when im in the green and the future looks bright. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Lib222KNH on :
 
Hey cow,
Just wondering if you knew of other college students on this board. And here I thought I was the only one...

Lib

(sorry for the off topic post)
 
Posted by Peaser01 on :
 
L2's look interesting in pre-market today.

Might just gap to .0009 today.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
booooooooring. going back to sleep
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
interesting, 2 mm's left at .0008.
Might see a run today...
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
i have a real good feeling about this right now...saw the accumilation over the past 2 days of shares. Bet you that they have the shares they need and r ready for the run.
Imo we will see the news today or tomorrow!
GLTA!
 
Posted by $WiseOldMan$ on :
 
Oh and btw...im a college student also [Smile]
Wahoo!
Im 20 years old but i have been trading real money since i was 14
Sry haha
Go JPHC!
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
well I added 3,420,000, a 0.004 valuation CAN'T be bad, and dogcatcher's been right in the past so I have faith in it
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Now this is the way it should be, let them sweat it don't sell. They try throwing in that sell at .0007 to shake loose some shares and it didn't work. Way to hang in there people,,,,,make em pay
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
well, only 2 left on the ask at 8, which is a lot better then it has been this week, so if we dont uptick today, we will more then likely uptick tommorrow
 
Posted by cj on :
 
I am hanging in there...not selling here.
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
one left on the ask, ask will be moved up to .0009 wohoo
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
go team!
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Pretty interesting

No one buying at .0008 and no one selling at .0007.

See if they take it up or down. It just seems they are holding it down for now. I think they will move it one way or another.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
can they just let go of JPHC!!!!!! they have been flipping it for months and now their precious cash cow has grown up and is ready for college but the stupid MMS just want to keep their baby home. (protest chant) LET IT GO, LET IT GROW!!!!!!!! LET IT GO, LET IT GROW!!!!!!!!LET IT GO, LET IT GROW!!!!!!!!LET IT GO, LET IT GROW!!!!!!!!LET IT GO, LET IT GROW!!!!!!!!LET IT GO, LET IT GROW!!!!!!!!LET IT GO, LET IT GROW!!!!!!!!LET IT GO, LET IT GROW!!!!!!!!LET IT GO, LET IT GROW!!!!!!!!LET IT GO, LET IT GROW!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
I know what you mean, I'm tired of waiting and my patience is growing thin...
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
how come? Look what happened with GWGO --- i've been waiting for the past month! Went up -- didn't sell, came back down (not all the way) and is on the rise now!!! I loaded up when it went down and all is good! THe same will happen with this one... just give it some time!!! If you wanna make some big bucks wait it out...!!! JMO though!!! GL no matter what your decision may be!
 
Posted by JHAWK01 on :
 
I'M IN HOLD MODE TOO. NOT LETTING THE MM'S GET THE BEST OF IT. HANG IN THERE GUYS/GALS!
 
Posted by Graham Charitable Trust on :
 
holding.. oh yeah, I attend college also
 
Posted by eagleye on :
 
Im holding on to...
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=JPHC&p=D&yr=0&mn=9&dy=0&id=p61959155485
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
No new rumors today? No one from RB came over either.

This was a slow day but almost every trade on the ask at .0008.

I had a buy at .0007 all day and no fill. Maybe they will show mercy and fill it tomorrow before a big run.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
I was just over at RB checking out the scuttle on JPHC today, first let me say that some of those people over there are down right mean; makes me appreciate the decent group we have in here (for the most part). Someone who likes to call themself the dogsmaster claims news will be out tommorow and to expect a huge run up. I'm not quite sure how they would know that but he did refer to the company in the first person (as in "we" expect to see xxx amount per share). Other folks are more optimistic about next week for a PR. I know this is all speculation but I get bored just sitting here waiting, I have to do something or i'd go nuts.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Jim, I know, that board along with several others are just crazy. I like to see the drama there but dont take to much stock in it. As far as dogmaster, he is a scammer off of Dogcatcher17. Dog is someone tied into the MM's OR a news service. He said news would be out on MDTX yesterday. I checked in this morning and he said it was going to be coming out shortly. Within 20 minutes news hit the wire about the company resigning a client. Not earth shattering but his track record for calling news is pretty good. He called for news next week on JPHC but didnt give a specific. I have an account with RB and bookmarked him so that I could keep up with the Jones so to speak. Take care and good luck. TMAN...
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
lol dogmaster, the scammers will run out of names soon! I mean what's left? dogslave? wait no I shouldn't give him ideas!!
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
doggystyle? dogdoo perhaps. Thanks T-man, good luck to you to, I saw that post about the PR next week. I am not expecting anything more than i get (if that makes any sense, it has something to do with hind sight). I do have about 1/2 my funds tied up in JPHC, so I am EAGERLY waiting on some good news.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
dogcatcher17 posts: Has a history of always saying the "stock is going to run up next week or the next week" or "the news will blow your socks off" always citing delays when it doesn't, then shareholders getting a Fluff PR stating things are progressing well. Gimme a break!
I'm betting the buyout won't take place this week or next week or the next after that. I'm sure Dog will cite further delays for whatever reason and another JPHC PR stating more progress is made and we expect to be billionaires next week or the next week or maybe the week after.
Bottom line: It's a penny stock valued at .0008
When further delays occur and more Fluff PR are posted this stock will tank. Depending on how long this will be delayed or if the buyout doesn't happen I may not buy in at all. By the way those of you that listened to Pecuniam would have made out well today on GWGO!

Dog keeps dragging people along week after week.
By: dogcatcher17
21 Mar 2006, 02:25 PM EST
Msg. 38542 of 41040
(This msg. is a reply to 38539 by mptoledo.)
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mptoledo: The Company is in talks to be taken over. If the valuation is at $0.004, you have to believe that the deal will be higher. I believe the Company could be making this announcement as early as next week.

By: dogcatcher17
23 Mar 2006, 02:45 PM EST
Msg. 39680 of 41040
(This msg. is a reply to 39641 by socal_helix.)
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socal: You know lawyers, they always cause delays. The Stock here looks pretty firm. It is in the works.
By: dogcatcher17
24 Mar 2006, 03:28 PM EST
Msg. 40132 of 41040
(This msg. is a reply to 39894 by stardate2006.)
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JPHC: Just trying to close things out here for the week. The Stock is holding here very nicely. I am just waiting for the big run up which could be next week, or the week after in my opinion.
And just remember.....

JPHC: I only intend to post one time on this board this week. I have just found out the talks for buyouts are now on the fast track. We could see some news as early as next week.

has a point. forget mr. doggy
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
OMG!!! You bring up Dogcatcher and Pec in the same post. As far as Dogcatcher he has brought forth information regarding mostly news releases. He has been right a large part of the time. He also said news was coming out on mtdx yesterday then today he also stated that it was coming out soon today and low and behold it did. SO his track record isnt 100% but neither is your buddy Pec. LOL. He has been pimping bkmp since .0005. mmm I think it was sitting at .0003 for the longest time today. So all I can say is read my tagline. Have a great evening. TMAN...
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
word
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
Green Friday ?
 
Posted by megahead34 on :
 
So when is this buyback supposed to happen? What will happen when it happens? The PPS will be .003?
 
Posted by Hotrod hillbilly on :
 
i think there are some stocks to buy today and some stocks to buy monday and some are going up and some are going down and i think that next week there might be some more stocks to look at . my pediction is that there will be news on some stocks and not on others and maybe all will be one or the other. and if u say alot of nothing then sooner or later ull be right at somthing but mostly u wont but everone will not see it and when ur right most that saw u when ur wrong will forget if they made $ on the same day. I like cheese.
 
Posted by Graham Charitable Trust on :
 
lol
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
looks like 9's today..
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
^ I predict the above is correct, and I also like cheese.
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
Almost started at '9
 
Posted by JHAWK01 on :
 
IT MOVING, SLOWLY BUT ITS GOING.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Nice to see that the Hot Rod is not indecisive, It's nice to see that some people have good solid picks for the day and coming week. I'll go all in on Cheese then, thanks for the heads up. Do you expect a big run? i've heard if you have to much cheese things tend to slow down and stop running.
 
Posted by Hotrod hillbilly on :
 
lets just say im in for the long haul here ................behold the power of cheese
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
Í have a sale order out for 1.6 million at .0008 --- all morning... hasn't gone through... very little volume right now!!!2hrs only 14.8 million --- not a lot!!! I just need some cash --- end of the month! I have 5.6 million all in all!!! And since the order isn't going through... i'll probably still have that by the end of the day [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
is it just me or are the RB boards down? I want to see if dogcatcher is giving updates
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
down. whats wrong with .0007 everyone sellin
 
Posted by Bezo33 on :
 
I've had a buy order out all morning at .0007 and still no fill.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
I'm just guessing but everyones probably waiting on the news! It's been lame for the past two days... which isn't a bad sign... it seems to be finding it's foundation at .0008 i'm sure i'll close there again this time around! I'm not expecting much before a new PR!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bezo33:
I've had a buy order out all morning at .0007 and still no fill.

B/A - .0007 -.0008 that's why my sell order isn't goig through either!!! Meh!!!
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
They traded a ton of shares at .0007 today at the bid. Like 40 million.

I don't know where they came from.

MM's must be loading up from some source. Maybe sellers wanting into some other stock or something. Maybe dilution. Maybe some sort of deal behind the scenes.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
VMD is still not trading I have a feeling a PR today at 4:05 wrapping this deal up...so it books in quarter 1....if not very early next week


IMO
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
Correction: VPMD
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
Missed this one..

0.0007 100 OTO 12:28:16
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
well, we are back at .0008 i'm guessing we'll stay there until monday!!! A good foundation to build upon come next week!!! I'm audi here... glta and have a great weekend.. sun's shining over here... i'm off to the beach!
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
Destination Day....decision time for outsiders sitting on the fence on this one


either you buy now, or never, or next week at higher prices.....

support has held 3 days in a row at .0008, the company they are joining with has not traded all week...end of quarter 1>>> the writing is on the wall !!!!

Great stock to buy today before closing ......

IMO

***do your homework**

Ohio_Trader
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ohio_trader:
Destination Day....decision time for outsiders sitting on the fence on this one


either you buy now, or never, or next week at higher prices.....

support has held 3 days in a row at .0008, the company they are joining with has not traded all week...end of quarter 1>>> the writing is on the wall !!!!

Great stock to buy today before closing ......

IMO

***do your homework**

Ohio_Trader

We don't know who they are joining with.
That's only speculation.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
signs are strongly pointing towards VPMD. Same country, same city, same business, both looking to expand, VPMD has traded at the same level forever and are strongly looking to boost their PPS. 80% chance its VPMD.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
it may be speculation but maybe VPMD stockholders are wondering after a week why their company is not trading ???????
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ohio_trader:
it may be speculation but maybe VPMD stockholders are wondering after a week why their company is not trading ???????

The stock did trade this week.
It was very little but it did trade.
only 3,575 shares today.
I won't say it can't be them but I'd rather see a big name buy JPHC out.
I hope it is soon though so I can put some money elsewhere.
 
Posted by Burn on :
 
VPMD = REACHING. They will be bought out. This stock can't be PUMPED.
 
Posted by DQ. on :
 
Had an order in all week at.0006 but NO DEAL. Maybe next week.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
There were no buys at .0007 since I think thursday, much less .0006 [Smile]
 
Posted by shadow troll on :
 
hot rod how long do u plan on holding that cheese. after awhile don't that cheese smell
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
I plan to keep jphc just because it is uptrend for several weeks from now! just to get $$$$$$$$ no sells expected in the short term below 8'.
GLTA!
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Up 100% so far

Hoping for 1000%, but I can settle for less. Not much though.

Hoping for at least a double this week. Curious to see if dogcatcher reappears. last week he said buyout news could be as early as this week. Whoa!
 
Posted by Scott23al on :
 
Is it a good buy at this price, or do you guys think this will dip once or twice?
 
Posted by Ja Rule on :
 
It's been very difficult to get in at .0007 the last few days. If we get news, this is a bargain. If not, who knows... I personally, would consider it a good buy with the recent news.

Good luck
 
Posted by DrWho on :
 
I would recommend doing SOMETHING by the end of Monday... right now, there IS NOT FLOAT or O/S... we have verified 75 people out of the 2000 shareholders who have 2.6 billion shares.

Whatever you buy before the news of the buyout (could be end of day Tuesday per rumors), you will be buying shorts the MM;s throw out to you. 99% of the shareholders currently are longs. Just look at the trading on Thursday and Friday... nearly all sells were by MM to MM.

Argonath
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I am wondering how long after a deal is signed before we convert the new shares to cash. Do you think it is something that will take a couple weeks?

If it is say .004 I wouldn't mind waiting a little while.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
I doubt it, look at TWOG.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I am hoping to be able to put the money into another stock before it runs. I realize stocks run all the time so it won't kill me to miss a run, but it would be nice to double it or triple it again.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
Damn right its nice. But if the company is bought out, it takes time to execute that - and its pretty likely we'd get shares converted in that deal. Then from there they'd be restricted so we didn't crash that stock when everyone tries to cash out.

But who knows, I could be $50,000 richer next week, I just doubt it though. [Smile]
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
50 K would be nice but I doubt it too, I am hoping to make 15K.

I e-mailed the company and asked about any restrictions and they did not respond. I think it was thursday.

They do have a nice website.
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
Looking to get in at .0006 but i doubt that'll happen [Wink]

Hoping my order goes through mid-week (when funds clear) at .0007 max...never been in a buyout situation before.

glta.
 
Posted by DrWho on :
 
I seriously doubt that the transaction will be completed next week... only the agreement, and the agreed on price.

Then the fuin starts... because the agreed on price is ONLY for the total O/S... so, with that as a minimum, the no one will sell UNTIL that price hits, and then the stock should rocket with longs dictating the price for shorts to cover.

I would love to see an agreement signed and a price at the end of Tuesday, then give it 10 days for the deal to complete. 10 days for shorts to cover... can you imagine what this would do if they only gave a week?

I also kind of doubt if stock will be part of the buyout... only because CEO Hawkings is spinning off Livestar, and wants to have cash to get that rolling... not sit around wondering about his shares with the buyout company.

Oh... almost forgot... there is also the stock dividend for Livestar... shorts will have to cover either with that news, OR the buyout.

The Dr
 
Posted by netfreak on :
 
Hello Guys do guys realistically think they will buy this stock back at .004/share and why???
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Here is an article on buyouts

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/TakeoversandLeveragedBuyouts.html

I don't know if they will pay .004 or more. It is a distinct possibility. Since the company said .004 minimum on their analysis project I would imagine that is possible.

Once managers agree to a buyout they normally seek the best price possible because they are selling their shares also.

This may not be a total buyout, but a buyout of controlling interest. I think and hope they would bargain very well.

One aspect of a buyout is the new value once assets are redirected to make more money. Thus the current value may be .004 but we don't know what the bidder sees as the value to them. It could be a lot more than that.

Just wait and see I guess.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
The below is not my post:
-------------------------

By: dallas66tx
02 Apr 2006, 05:39 PM EDT Msg. 41276 of 41279
(Msg. is a reply to by None.)
I have been doing quite a bit of research this past week to identify methodologies used to determine valuation and buyout price correlations. A valuation of a company may be initiated for a variety of reasons. Most commonly they are used to show the strength of a company for future debt repayment on loans, to acquire better financing of loans, and to show value for potential buyer/merger/acquisition possibilities. What I have typically found is a company with revs (EBITDA) in excess of $5m are valued at 60% - 90% of ACTUAL asset value, which is an agreed upon value by the seller/buyer for takeover/merger considerations. Once that value is agreed upon by both buyer and seller, the process begins to determine sell/buy price. The average sell/buy price is somewhere between 2 - 8 times valuation of the company. The reason for such a wide potential for the asset valuation, and valuation multiple used is due to the demands of the marketplace for the product offered, expanded future product offerings, and the potential to increase revenues going forward. Quite often a business with little chance of agressive growth (revs and expansion) without a large capital investment, will sell for 2 - 3 times valuation, with a low % assessed value. Whereas a business with the potential to greatly expand it's rev base and/or business base may command a price of 4 - 8 times it's agreed upon valuation. Also, in a merger situation where two companies combine assets to create one new entity, the synergistic values of both companies will come in to play for the exit (post buyout/merger) value of the new company. This can in effect cause the value of the newly created company to be worth more than the combined assets of the two pre-merger/buyout companies. This is typically the case when two like companies combine and are able to reduce overhead while increasing customer/revenue base. The future potential of the "new" company is generally taken into consideration by both sides when negotiations for the sell price are discussed. The capital investments required to unify the companies are likewise taken into consideration, but to a lesser extent. This is due to the corporate direction, and additional capital outlay above reasonable expectations the buyer may choose to take once the deal has been closed. Relate it to buying a car or house....objective value is assumed ...buyer lowballs...points out negatives...seller highballs...points out positives...sell/buy price is reasonably close to assumed value...financing is arranged.

We all have REASONABLE expectations of the numbers....play and have some fun.

% of assesed value which is agreed upon x industry multiple agreed upon - costs associated with sell = buy price.

an EXAMPLE:

assessed value = $15m
agreed valuation 75% = $11.25m
agreed multiple = 4.5
sell/buy price = 4.5 x $11.25m = $50.625m
fees = 3% = ~$1.5m
actual sell/buy price = ~$49.1m
O/S = ~6b
buyout pps = $49.1m/~6b = ~$.0081
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
RE: BUYOUT value
Another big factor is whether this is a stock conversion or a cash deal..........
 
Posted by adwald on :
 
I am going through my second buyout in less than 5 years and neither of them took less than 6 months. Also between the time the original paperwork is signed and the sale is final, 6 months at least, if anything in the company goes wrong the purchasing company can back out.

Not saying there is anything wrong with this buyout but it may take longer than could be expected.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by adwald:
I am going through my second buyout in less than 5 years and neither of them took less than 6 months. Also between the time the original paperwork is signed and the sale is final, 6 months at least, if anything in the company goes wrong the purchasing company can back out.

Not saying there is anything wrong with this buyout but it may take longer than could be expected.

How did your first one go?
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
In addition - it may take time to finalize a deal but that doesn't mean the stock wont soar before hand!

JMO!
 
Posted by Skyman on :
 
If it takes this long to work a deal, it makes me wonder why the buying company would fool with it.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
depends on how long the auditors take, slow buggers, and of course the lawyers to figure out the post mrgr/buyout structure
 
Posted by adwald on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
quote:
Originally posted by adwald:
I am going through my second buyout in less than 5 years and neither of them took less than 6 months. Also between the time the original paperwork is signed and the sale is final, 6 months at least, if anything in the company goes wrong the purchasing company can back out.

Not saying there is anything wrong with this buyout but it may take longer than could be expected.

How did your first one go?
It went very well just took a lot to get done. This second one is seeming to take every longer.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
I think we see 9s today with no news.

It would be nice to see news after market closes.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Skyman:
If it takes this long to work a deal, it makes me wonder why the buying company would fool with it.

If they want the product 6 months is nothing. Usually a buyout involves spending more on a company than its currently worth, just to get that product. Obviously if they believe in something they will want it, 6 months is hardly a long time when it could become a big mark on their business careers and lives.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
It won't take 6 mos. from now. They been working on this for some mos. already. When announced it will go thru faster since so much of the prelimenary work has already been done.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Volume is low, IMO at least for this stock at this point it is a good sign. Means to me that the investors know its worth more and are holding for news. Good choice, going to make money on this one.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Is the paint dry yet?
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
how about the grass?
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
shhhhh I'm watching it grow
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
last scare tactic before big run???? dropped bxa .0006x.0007...mm's want those shares bad
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
I hate to sell now. The previous 2 times I've played this I lost money. Each time I got out it went up within a week. I don't mind being patient, it's just that you can obviously make money elsewhere instead of having it sit still here...
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
Everybody here is waiting for green days, no sales at that price!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
It'd be nice to see news after market closes or about 5 minutes before. That would make them sweat.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
sportsguy do us a favor and sell =)
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Has anyone been able to buy this at .0007 today?

Just wondering if all the .0007 are at bid to mm's.
 
Posted by Hotrod hillbilly on :
 
nope tryed all day.........went ahead and loaded up somemore at .0008 and i feel real good about it. alot at .0005 more at .0006 some at.0007 and more at .0008. GLTA
 
Posted by Burn on :
 
I got the last buy of the day at .0007.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Has anyone been able to buy this at .0007 today?

Just wondering if all the .0007 are at bid to mm's.

Yes, I got 1 mil at 4:03 at .0007 after having the buy order in all day.
Maybe I got the last buy of the day.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sportsguy:
I don't mind being patient, it's just that you can obviously make money elsewhere instead of having it sit still here...

If you have a sure thing somewhere else then go to it. The longer you hold this one the more that is in it for you, if you are in for the short term there probably wont be much to write home about if you are about to strike it rich this week in another stock.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
i sold my xsnx to play with while i wait for JPHC
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Still holding...and yawning...
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
stop yawning, you'll make me tired and I don't want to be asleep when it hits.
 
Posted by azizalk on :
 
Long and still holding
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
Still holding, 8.5m
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Long, strong, and holding on.
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
no trading for over an hour? whats going on?
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
Because they moved the bid and ask down and nobody will sell for .0006 or .0007.
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
Please wake me up when my little baby will start for the run ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Pst Impat, Impat are you asleep? Just want to let you know that it's getting closer. [Smile]
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
VPMD trading up 40%
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Look at MOTG and Harvey electronics. It was pr'd or rumored a while back. Yesturday it happened and the company being bought out goes up.

This may not happen as fast as we want but it should be exciting once it does.
 
Posted by eagleye on :
 
its been over two weeks since we last had a PR and I think we could see the big news before the end of the week.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
News is coming, I just hope it's by the end of the week.
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
A huge number of bids at .0006, so it looks like the buys will have to be at .0007 or higher today.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
bids are shaping up premarket bids at 7 and the ask looks like people may be starting to take this serious.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
We have biuilt a nice launch platform at 7-8, we just need the spark thats going to send this rocket flying.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Accumulation

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=JPHC&p=D&yr=0&mn=3&dy=0&id=p56255778734

Just watch!
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Etard is definitely screwed

They tried to lower the ask to .0007 in the pre mkt.

Now they are displaying 50k for sale at .0008

They keep trying to knock us down, but it ain't working too well [Razz]
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Look at MOTG

That was a rumored 'anyday now' runner.
 
Posted by pepsiman on :
 
Are we going to see .0009 or maybe .001 today?
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Another Incomm acquisition

http://www.prepaid-press.com/news_detail.php?t=pt&id=251

ATLANTA, GA (March 31, 2006) InComm, a technology provider and distributor of prepaid products, has acquired the majority interest of Airtime Technologies, Inc.’s capital stock. Airtime Technologies, Inc., markets point-of-sale prepaid and debit transaction solutions

_________________________________________________________

Looks like Incomm is in Atlanta, GA. Now where is Macro? Oh yeah!
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Maybe it's this company

DWVS

http://www.datawave.com/investors/img/page7/March%202006%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf

Seems like they want to acquire "prepaid" companies like Macro
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Looks like the volume may end up higher today
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ajman:
Looks like the volume may end up higher today

Hope so - we need the volume to break us out of this range. Eventually the sellers at .0008 will give in and sell at .0007 - then we can move up. Seems like a lot of interest in JPHC at .0007
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
They must have had a false alarm on news before the bell, weck has moved his ask back to 111.

Just something to watch.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
No shares traded for over an hour. Guess they will have to raise the bid to get any new shares. [Smile]
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
There will probably be some false alarms both ways.

They may lower the bid to get shares as they wait. This might scare some people out.

I think if this ever breaks resistance at 8 or 9 this will run. It has a lot of pent up frustration to work out. People are waiting for breakout to get in.

Volume of 122 million is below average and it seems to move up when volume hits 200 million plus.
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
i don't know if it's the shares or the shareholders that have the pent up frustration..
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Both [Mad]
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
JPHC low sales at '7 ? war between buyers and sellers...
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Maybe we will know more in the morning.
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Another day of nothing. Like we always say, just wait until tomorrow [Big Grin]
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
zZzzzzZZzZZZzzZzzz
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Looks like a little insider buying going on here... http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1088199/000110801706000229/xslF345X02/pri mary_doc.xml

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1088199/000110801706000228/xslF345X02/pri mary_doc.xml

Kwong and Hawkins own about 200,000,000 shares between them. TMAN...
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm.


Nice find.

Price .0009.
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
Let's hope that someting big is coming!
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
Looks like a little insider buying going on here... http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1088199/000110801706000229/xslF345X02/pri mary_doc.xml

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1088199/000110801706000228/xslF345X02/pri mary_doc.xml

Kwong and Hawkins own about 200,000,000 shares between them. TMAN...

That was share given to them plus others as payment. That news is over 2 weeks old.
It's probably part of the deal for the buyout.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
My bad. sorry. TMAN...
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
One of these days soon, when you least expect it, boom!!!!!!!!

Come to think of it I least expect it now, so who knows.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Its nice to have free shares in a company. I can wait a year and not miss a beat. Its my other holdings that are giving me fits. lol. TMAN...
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
no volume whatsoever...somethings gotta give
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Nothing good to say, just getting this one back to the first page so it doesn't get forgotten yet, although maybe it should be, I'm still long and holding on. Peace.
 
Posted by DQ. on :
 
I've had an order in for a week to buy more at .0006 and it won't fill. Guess that's good.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
PR Today ??????


Crossing my fingers..............
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
Please!
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
No word from dogcatcher? He may have not always had a good news, but he seemed pretty knowledgeable on their PR releases.
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
trying to fill at .0006 and not happening.
 
Posted by agrimac on :
 
0008/0009
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
man i've been trying to get a fill forever.. and nothing!
 
Posted by cj on :
 
Volume really shot up on this one just before the close [Eek!] ??

............................Volume
04/07/06 15:04:00 30806059
04/07/06 15:59:00 126310507
 
Posted by cj on :
 
now the main question to ask here. Was the big volume spike towards the end of trading additional dilution or covering before possible news?

Last hour volume
04/07/06 15:04:00 30806059
04/07/06 15:59:00 126310507
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
i thought dilution brings the PPS down and covering brings teh PPS up?? one would think..
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
i dont see what youre seeing...im showing total volume for the day to be 126,310,507...check that again cj
 
Posted by cj on :
 
dbrown

I was looking at intra-day volume. It was fairly quiet for much of the day then popped just before the market close. MMs perhaps playing around with this one, maybe covering not sure but there was a obvious volume spike looking at the data below??

date_____time________volume
04/07/06 3:04pm......30806059
04/07/06 3:59pm.....126310507
 
Posted by cj on :
 
Level 2 data below...notice the HIGH volume of activity occuring from 15:53 to market close at 16:00. Thats major activity in a span of 7 minutes.


0.0007 1000 OTO 16:00:20
0.0006 50000 OTO 15:59:47
0.0006 3000000 OTO 15:59:46
0.0006 61700 OTO 15:59:44
0.0006 700000 OTO 15:58:18
0.0006 1300000 OTO 15:58:17
0.0006 7407158 OTO 15:55:27
0.0006 1000000 OTO 15:54:44
0.0006 1000000 OTO 15:54:44
0.0006 9000000 OTO 15:54:44
0.0006 100000 OTO 15:54:41
0.0006 999999 OTO 15:54:41
0.0006 200000 OTO 15:54:41
0.0006 7598451 OTO 15:54:41
0.0006 1500000 OTO 15:54:41
0.0006 985510 OTO 15:54:41
0.0006 2000000 OTO 15:54:41
0.0006 1000000 OTO 15:54:41
0.0006 250000 OTO 15:54:41
0.0006 3000000 OTO 15:54:41
0.0006 608330 OTO 15:54:41
0.0006 200000 OTO 15:54:41
0.0006 990000 OTO 15:54:41
0.0006 2000000 OTO 15:54:41
0.0006 2000000 OTO 15:54:41
0.0006 9000000 OTO 15:54:16
0.0006 2000000 OTO 15:53:40
0.0006 421700 OTO 15:53:26
0.0006 4000000 OTO 15:53:26
0.0006 6400000 OTO 15:53:26
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
that spike you see was caused by a drop of the ask to 0.0006 in the final minutes of the day, many people wanted to get in at that price I guess and that volume spike is a result of that. 2 million of it is my order

JMHO
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
alright...it just didnt show up on my streamer...thanks for the info
 
Posted by DQ. on :
 
Finally got more at .0006...I'm happy with that.
 
Posted by cj on :
 
Yep the ask dropping to .0006 likely opened up the flood gates of limit orders waiting to go through at that price.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I'm still hoping my shares will turn into 10 grand like I was told. Holding free ones just in case anything goes wrong.

Never hurts to be careful in this game.
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
didn't get filled at all and after seeing all those .0006 filles i'm not exactly happy.

lazy people at ameritrade ;p
 
Posted by Burn on :
 
Money who told you that you would make 10 grand?
 
Posted by captain america on :
 
ok im feeling brave tonight..i bought lsta in 2004 it turned into lsta then to lvsg and now its jphc so now my 300000 shares of lsta is now .146 of a share of jphc. sorry im negitive tonight do to the news of kswj my second loser in two years.
 
Posted by DQ. on :
 
yea, I just bought some kswj Monday. YIPPY!!!
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by captain america:
ok im feeling brave tonight..i bought lsta in 2004 it turned into lsta then to lvsg and now its jphc so now my 300000 shares of lsta is now .146 of a share of jphc. sorry im negitive tonight do to the news of kswj my second loser in two years.

Empathy for your bad day on kswj, captain. Only 2 losers in 2 years? Cool. Wish I could say the same - if I buy a major exchange listed stock, guaranteed that company is going bankrupt the next day.

As far as JPHC is concerned, I check this one every day I own it for RS. They are filing reports. It's been good for short term trades and Hawkins has followed through with his goals (so far).

Unfortunately, rumors/speculation are getting ahead of reality right now. I was looking for a run-up before a possible spin-off, and now peeps are waiting for a buy-out announcement. Maybe, maybe not, maybe later. I don't put value on news that doesn't come from the company. And won't sell until I have the profit I want (or RS that I don't want).

BTW, alls well on the rs front today.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Burn:
Money who told you that you would make 10 grand?

The PR that was posted back in the threads somewhere told me.
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
BTW, American Bulls changed their rating to a BUY-IF yesterday.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
SHORT SQUEEZE - If you have been trading stocks for any amount of time, you will have probably heard the term "short squeeze". A short squeeze is actually when there is a sudden demand (i.e. buying or when a buyout is announced, or dividends) in a stock which has a large amount of shares outstanding on the short side. If the buying keeps up and starts to force short players to cover their short positions, the result can be quite sever. Buying increases the share price, which in turn tends to produce additional fear (and short covering) among short-side players in the stock market. As people rush to buy stock and cover their positions, this continue to dizzying heights until a normal supply/demand situation returns to the market. As the old saying goes, "He who sells what isn't hisn, buys it back or goes to Prison". The bottom line is that if the stock you have borrowed and sold is suddenly required, you may end up being "bought in" whether you like it or not.

ONE ADDITIONAL CAVEAT - If you are short a stock at the same time as a stock dividend is paid, don't forget that you owe that dividend to the owner of the original stock. Your broker will charge your account for the amount of the dividend owed based on the number of shares you have borrowed. Keep this in mind when shorting dividend-paying stocks.


MM SHORTERS TAKE NOTE
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
My caluculations of OS and restricted sales by date.

9-15-2005 Last known OS is from 10KQSB 1,619,057,020
12-05-2005 Officer compensation 2005 issued : Ray Hawkins 1,209,117,280 R
Edwin Kwong 756,758,440 R
2-2-2006 debt reduction 150,000,000 R
2-2-2006 debt reduction 525,000,000 R
2-2-2006 debt reduction 316,281,215 R
3-14-2006 debt reduction 150,000,000 R
3-14-2006 debt reduction 76,000,000 R
3-14-2006 debt reduction 42,000,000 R
3-14-2006 debt reduction 120,000,000 R
3-14-2006 debt reduction 220,000,000 R
3-14-2006 debt reduction 180,000,000 R
3-14-2006 Officer Compensation Ray Hawkins 67,027,027 R
Edwin Kwong 52,972,973 R
______________________________________
TOTAL SHARES OUTSTANDING 5,484,215,955
RESTRICTED SHARES 3,645,156,935
______________________________________
TOTAL FLOAT 1,839,059,020

These figures include all filings from the last 10KSB which includes the 800M S-8 filing received on 11-1-05 where the total OS was known except
for the following 2.
1-9-2006 Form 8-K where the company authorizes 1B share buyback in 2006.
2-3-2006 Form 8-K where the company issued a total of 2,703,170,000 shares to
Hawkins and Kwong for payment on promissory notes. These were
restricted shares and the accompanied Form 4s that were filed by the officers
were unclear as to the final disposition of the shares. Form 4 showed
acquisition of shares and dispersal of shares at 0 cents, meaning no net gain.
Even if we were to count these shares it would not change the float as these
shares were restricted.

Some have calculated the amount of shares that known longs hold to be in excess of 2B shares. If this is true then this stock has been severely shorted. See the above post and keep in mind that when the buyout is announced the shorts will have to cover. Interpet this to mean that, if the longs hold, the share price will greatly surpass the buyout price as the shorts attempt to cover. Keep this quote in mind from above.

"He who sells what isn't hisn, buys it back or goes to Prison".
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
The PR that was posted back in the threads somewhere told me.

How much did you put in that you expected 10 grand profit? Just curious.
 
Posted by netfreak on :
 
Could someone update me on what is going on with this stock??? What happened to the rummor of the buyout on this thing????
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by netfreak:
Could someone update me on what is going on with this stock??? What happened to the rummor of the buyout on this thing????

Patience, grasshopper. It probably won't be today.


ajman, thanks for the numbers... a lot of work there.
 
Posted by netfreak on :
 
I know but can you elaborate on what has been happening with this stock in the past week... It is greatly appreciated...
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by netfreak:
I know but can you elaborate on what has been happening with this stock in the past week... It is greatly appreciated...

No.

Just kidding... someone else may be able to answer your question. I'm not sure what you are looking for. jphc is holding quite well, a little shake Friday, and maybe some peeps got out to play with other stocks.

GL and don't set your clock by rumors.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
The rumor is still a rumor, ergo nothing has changed.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
Looks like it may be forming a cross very soon...

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=jphc

Is this their week ?
 
Posted by mr money on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AgentGPF:
The rumor is still a rumor, ergo nothing has changed.

It's actually more than just a romour. It is based on pr's put out by the company. Not just rumours started on message boards.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mr money:
quote:
Originally posted by AgentGPF:
The rumor is still a rumor, ergo nothing has changed.

It's actually more than just a romour. It is based on pr's put out by the company. Not just rumours started on message boards.
It depends on what you are expecting out of the next PR. A done deal?

Okay... let me go ahead and telegraph my trading plans at the risk of losing the second bump - this is going to be spendy.

JPHC has been progressively cleaning house, prepping for a buy-out and performing admirably. I'll use 2 headlines to make my 'double bump' point.

http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060210/0109397.html - Feb 10, 2006

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Provides Additional Information Regarding Current Corporate Plans - Friday February 10, 10:41 am ET

"... The plans to prepare the spin-off of the Company's entertainment interests are progressing well with results expected in the upcoming weeks. As developments are finalized, terms of the spin-off will be provided. This spin-off plan is also one of the key steps for the Company preparations in becoming an attractive acquisition or merger target..."

***IMO - Unless plans have changed, Livestar (I think that's the name) will not be a part of the buy-out. This is a 'next step' in housekeeping.

Next... the LAST PR from JPHC...

http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060320/0113878.html

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Notifies Shareholders of Significant Progress in Its Corporate Activities - Monday March 20, 4:05 pm ET

"...Ongoing discussions with a potential acquirer/merger candidate are progressing at an increased pace and we anticipate a continued move towards the completion of a transaction..."

***Read all of the PRs, not just headlines or my clips from the articles. This is a work in progress, and Hawkins has never stated otherwise.

So... I bought in at low pps while MMs were getting turned around (at least I hope they were), planning to wait for spin-off PR. Notice how nobody mentions this? All the talk is about the sure-thing buy-out. When the next PR comes out and falls short of expectations, disappointed peeps will bail. I will have already sold my first order (not now).

I'll then pick up those cheap shares and wait for the PR that says 'done deal' or 'no deal'. I may have one or two trades here, depending on timeframe. (now I'll just add to the first because of my own stupidity) Both events may occur simultaneously anyway, especially with no PR this week.

Study the chart for JPHCs last run up to find the turnaround point. The base is stronger this time, but there will be more overhead resistance on this first bump. The risk is the same as last time - giving JPHC credibility. IMO - their greatest asset is having maintained reporting status. But, nothing is for sure until you sell.

We get played like a fiddle with most BBs, if they say it enough then it must be true.

Mr. Money, I can't find any definitive in the PRs. Do you have one?

GLe1 - especially to JPHC
 
Posted by mr money on :
 
I'm just saying--it is not a rumour started by unknown posters on a message board. It is based on pr's form the company itself. Whether it happens or not--time will tell.Mergers and buyouts happen all the time in the penny world-- Just look at SFTV last week. I like the risk /reward in this stock. If no buyout occurs then one can get out with no loss or a small loss. But if a buyout occurs the gain can be anywhere from 200% to 1000+%. To me it is worth the risk to hold some of this stock.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Mr. Money, different words, but we agree then? Rumors based on PRs are still rumors.

Like I said, rumors/speculation are getting ahead of reality right now.

Although I don't expect the next PR to announce a buy-out (or even details of an offer), I would be thrilled to get it. However, if peeps are pumped up and waiting for that... 'nuff said.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
So the easy and relaxing thing to do would be to own "free" shares and enjoy the ride. Otherwise your blood pressure will go sky high and you'll endanger your health.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
So, do we hear something this week or after easter. It's been quite which I take as a good sign, work getting done on the divis and buyout. [Smile]

REMEMBER: "He who sells what isn't hisn, buys it back or goes to Prison".
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
.0005? nice back where we started. WHOO HOO
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
anyone just see that 20mil share buy at.0006? what is going on!
 
Posted by deleet on :
 
I'm hangin in there too. 5 and a half million shares.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
I'm hanging in too, but I only have 300000.
 
Posted by sleathers on :
 
I'm loading up on this one.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
There's almost 0 volume traded (only like $5k)--- what are your guys's thoughts? News coming out soon?!?!?
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
i dumped mine at 6 for a 100% profit, i was hoping for more from this stock, but profit is profit.. good luck to the longs..
 
Posted by Fergy on :
 
Did you dump today RockLobster?
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
yesterday, during that buy frenzy near EOD.
 
Posted by Fergy on :
 
Why not wait and see? This will change my life if it does what I think is possible. But perhaps you became bored and frustrated or simply needed the cash. I think the risk/reward is well worth it.
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
yea i have no patience for this type of thing, and i figured i all ready made a profit.. anyways generally me selling is good for everyone else who didn't sell.. lol
 
Posted by Fergy on :
 
Well good luck with your other picks
 
Posted by cj on :
 
someone sold a mountain of shares at 0.0005 Perhaps they were scared off by that level. Well good close with (bid 0.0007 ask 0.0007) at EOD
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
what a ride!
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
isn't the BA 5x7?
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
PR tommorrow ?

well overdue...after the run at EOD think somethings up
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
posted April 09, 2006 11:23 AM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Looks like it may be forming a cross very soon...

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=jphc

Is this their week ?
------------------------------------------------
4/11
getting closer to forming a cross one good day and we are there............the mm's can't hold it back....look at the chart

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui

a little more volume and i think this will run...
well overdue

IMO

**do your homework**
 
Posted by DQ. on :
 
I'm loaded and ready. This can climb to .001 many times as it has before. Looking good!
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
no fills.. order in all day for 5m at .0005
 
Posted by Fergy on :
 
Yolkarmy,

You probably won't get filled at 0.0005 perhaps you should hit the ask. A have heard that not a lot of people were able to get in at 0.0006 either. MM seem to be playing their fun games again. GL
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
hey fergy,

i don't think i'll get filled at .0005, but its worth a try.. if i don't get a fill in today at .0005 i'm going back to .0006 (i couldn't get filled there either!)

i try my best not to be too impatient.. got a swift kick a few times because of it [Wink]
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
WECK and UBSS on the bid at .0006

WECK has been the crazy mm always signaling with 333's lately - 1st time on the bid for ages
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Check out the chart:

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/1192/jphc7bk.gif

Once we hit .0008, it's going to be a rocket ship ride this time. According to Dog, the price is going to be in a much better place by the end of the month. Considering the timing of the holidays, I'd suspect a blockbuster PR after the Easter holiday is over.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
By: dogcatcher17
12 Apr 2006, 10:28 AM EDT
Msg. 42713 of 42730
Jump to msg. #
JPHC: Don't fall asleep at the switch. We believe that next week will bring big things, in our opinion. Two of the recent big sellers have turned to buyers now. Good Luck to all!
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
well unfortunately i didn't get filled entirely, but got some at .06


1,930,231 will try to get the rest tomorrow.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Trying to buy at the bid does as much to keep this stock from going up as the MMs do. Buy at the ask for the benefit of all. It may be the next buy at the ask that starts this forward and the few dollars you save buying at the bid you lose many times over with it not moving.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Getting exciting

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5649/jphc1nt.gif
 
Posted by Hotrod hillbilly on :
 
I like the way this stock looks and im excited about what is to come. looks great [Big Grin] [Big Grin] running with the bulls here!!!!
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
The DOG has barked:

http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=JPHC&read=42849
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
By: dogcatcher17
13 Apr 2006, 12:02 PM EDT
Msg. 42849 of 42850
Jump to msg. #
JPHC: FLASH......The Stock is a buy......next week should be very exciting , in my humble opinion. Good luck to all!!
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
LEAP

Public company (used to be LWIN)

On an acquisition streak

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LEAP
http://www.leapwireless.com/l1_about_leap.htm

Interesting PR:
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060405/20060405005678.html?.v=1
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
i still thinks its VPMD. Funny how they havent released news since march 24th.....
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
in at 4.12m * .0006
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Anyone else noticing how many different MM's have been on the bid at .0006 today? Seems like they are all testing the waters to make sure the sellers have dried up here. Good things to come!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
i gave up my shares at .0006 today.. couldn't handle the wait.. playing those biofuel stocks the meanwhile, and maybe jump back in later after the quick gains.. it seems like biofuel is getting a lot of activities, IESV VRDM INSQ.. man, those are unbelievable today
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
sorry you sold your shares for so cheap. "Today" is the right term for your choice of words.

Good luck to you and your trading style.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Got sick of waiting for another fill at 6, bought another million at .0007, sitting on 4 mill now
 
Posted by steef on :
 
news today ?????!!!
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
Whats the latest A/S and O/S? The last I heard was 20B A/S and 17+B O/S and its traded about 3B at .0001 since then.
 
Posted by fishfarmer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fishfarmer:
Whats the latest A/S and O/S? The last I heard was 20B A/S and 17+B O/S and its traded about 3B at .0001 since then.

Sorry wrong thread [Embarrassed]
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
By: dogcatcher17
13 Apr 2006, 03:08 PM EDT
Msg. 42928 of 42934
Jump to msg. #
JPHC: Just confirmed that next week, between Tuesday and Thursday, that there will be an announcement of the big deal that we all have been waiting for, in my opinion. Good Luck.

Should be an interesting week next week for sure. B/A already started up.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
This all confirms what is going on in the chart

Technical breakout above .0008
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
Gonna buy the dawg a bone if he's right [Big Grin] ... anticipation is the key to success!!!

Good luck all.. have a great long wekend... and see yah on monday!

J.
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
Why does he say I "confirmed" and then ends with "in my opinion"??
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Baxt06:
Why does he say I "confirmed" and then ends with "in my opinion"??

Because he's a yo-yo  -
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
Probably for liability purposes, in case something didn't happen.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
he confirmed that there will be an anouncement, and he believes it's going to be the big good news
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
vpmd jut started trading in the last 5 mins ... weird!
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
moving up!
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
jarw, as you know i am sure the rumor has been that they are the company that jphc is in talks with. BUT that is only the rumor. TMAN...
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
I think a trade went through at 9
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
i show 8 on ameritrade and settled at 7. Thats the first 8 painted in a while. I think we may be in the right place at the right time. Have a great Easter weekend everyone. TMAN...
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
RUNNER ON MONDAY

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7171/jphc0lg.gif

Rumor is news between Tues - Thursday of next week regarding the big announcement!!
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
the trade at 9 was only 5000 shares...not much but still nice to see that number up there... [Big Grin]
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
we'll see what happens next week.. glad i got in just in time [Wink]
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
roiresearch how did you get that graph from Stock Charts btw? What settings did you use?
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
April 11
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/1192/jphc7bk.gif

April 12
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5649/jphc1nt.gif

April 13
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7171/jphc0lg.gif


If you are short, it's like watching a train wreck in slow motion - if you are long, it's gonna make for an exciting next week.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gfm50:
roiresearch how did you get that graph from Stock Charts btw? What settings did you use?

When you pull up your chart, you then click the annotate button. A new window will appear with the chart and give you the opportunity to draw trend lines, support, resistance, flags, fib's, write, etc...

You then need a program like Adobe Photoshop, or maybe Paint may work. Never tried it. You basically "print screen" the chart you just annotated, paste it into photoshop (or maybe paint), crop it, resize it, and then save it to your hard drive. A fellow poster on RB told me about imageshack.us as a free site to post your charts from. Works well so far, and is FREE
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
what was the ask at closing time..will buy some more monday with the opening because i am pretty sure we get the big news this week... GLTA
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Stockguru06:
what was the ask at closing time..will buy some more monday with the opening because i am pretty sure we get the big news this week... GLTA

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=jphc
Check out this link - Free L2 for JPHC

TASL ended up on the bid at .0008

The only MM on the ask at .0008 is UBSS, and they tend to get off the ask pretty quickly.

Most likely will GAP Monday morning to at least .001 on the bid - not sure where the ask will be

A pretty reliable source last week confirmed big news for this week between Tues - Thurs. That should drive the stock nuts all day Monday hoping for a post-bell PR regarding the buyout and/or dividend. JPHC recently had an external auditor come and value their company - minimum value of .004

People, JPHC trades at .0007
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
JPHC put out a 8-K/A today that finals up the financials for the Macro deal last year. This is good for 2 reasons. First had to be done legally for the buyout to progress IMO and it shows that they were working today meaning they're serious about this deal.

I think this explodes this week.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
anyone want a lesson in Naked Short Selling and what happens when the company that has been shorted gets bought out.

STAY TUNED

Lessons start next week. Get in now to take full advantage and get full credit.

Remember: "He who sells what isn't hisn, buys it back or goes to Prison."
no matter what it costs him!!!
 
Posted by reidler88 on :
 
hey,,
can anyone tell me the float on this stock
sorry i dont have the time to flip back through 28 pages on this topic,,
i am just curious on the float,,
if someone can be kind enough to help me out with a number, that would be great,,

4.5 million and holding strong
 
Posted by Fergy on :
 
Reidler88,

It is believed the float is around 2.2B. Go to IHub for all the facts.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
This one is going to gap monday morning. Hopefully we will end much higher by the end of the week if we get news.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Be ready for a play of the week on this one.

With this one being shorted as much as it is and news coming this week on the buyout, be ready for MMs to start their covering.

All shorts will have to be covered before buyout happens. This will make for some very high volume days once the news hits, IMO.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
is it possible to short pink sheets stocks and do MM short penny stocks like this? any comments? i am thinking between buying NDOL or JPHC,both buyout news this week... but which will be the biggest gainer???
 
Posted by Ja Rule on :
 
NDOL is a safer play IMO. They have at least said themselves that they'll be releasing. Everyone here is basing it on the Dogcatcher, who also said the buyout was going to happen 3 weeks ago.

I've got some JPHC, but NDOL is the best buy out there now IMO. It's got a forward P/E of less than 2!

GLTA...I hope JPHC gets the news this week as well, just not holding my breath.
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
stockguru06, you cannot short penny stocks, MM's however can
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
thx opethian! does ndol has a significant shortpostion? could be interesting when the buyout goes through because each shorted is really screwed at that moment
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i mean jphc instead of ndol...sorry
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
ja rule.. please read dog's comments carefully.. he's been saying "news possible as early as next week" he has never once confirmed that it was happening.. when he confirms things, they happen..

go look at his history.. i'm not saying we should base everything on him.. but he does have a history of predicting news, etc when he gives his official "confirmation"
 
Posted by Ja Rule on :
 
Yolk, I'm not saying he's been totally unreliable. He's been right on a couple times, but I thought he said something about March 24th being the day a while back.

I'm just saying, I have more confidence with NDOL's PR's explicitly saying they have the offer in their hands and they're disclosing it before the end of the month.

JPHC says they're working on it...which is definitely good, but exactly when it happens I don't think we know for sure.

GLTA
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
i guess we'll see come next week [Wink] anyway, you are still holding shares, so glty sir.
 
Posted by johnny14511 on :
 
this will open up at .0011

 -
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by johnny14511:
this will open up at .0011

 -

That would be a very big jump for this stock. With the rumor of news next week and the filing od the 8KA, I think Monday will be the last day that the MM's can really mess with this stock.

IMHO, they will open it at .0007-.0008. Bring it down to .0006-.0007 or even .0005-.0006. in an effort to shake out some more shares until the news actually hits. After News this runs all day and all week. JMVHO.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
Wally, the MM's have been trying for a couple weeks to drive this stock down with no success.
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
payup, thats a funny sig [Wink] haha
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
Really, it has been in .0005 to .0006 range then moved to the .0006 to .0007 and then to .0006 to .0008. There may have been a couple of .0009's during that time but very few. The majority of shares have traded at .0006 and .0007. If it wasn't being held down we would already be at .002 to .003. I have watched the level 2's everyday and everytime it looks like it's going to run the ask and bid are lowered. The only .0009 I saw on Thursday was for 5000 shares a whopping $4.50 order.

The MM's will play their games on Monday. Might gap a little let it run a little and bring it back down. I think it was around the 20th of March where they let it run a little, I think it reached .0012 and then they brought it back, it closed at .0008 that day. All I'm saying is watch them because they are going to try again before the real run.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Wally, you're are absolutely correct in thinking the MMs are going to be playing with this one tomorrow. But even the MMs won't be able to control this one once the MOMO train leaves the station, and it IMO the trip started Friday with the filing of the 8KA.

The 8KA was one of the obstacles that needed to get taken care of before the buyout, the first step to current financials. They have been saying that once they start filing to get current they would be coming at a rapid pace. I believe we will see the 10Q and the 10K this week and maybe by weeks end the news we've been waiting on.

We have to remember that although this is a pink, it is in the unique position of being tremendously shorted. The float by all counts is around 2.5B shares. Rinderles a poster on another board has tallied the shares being held by us longs at around 3B shares, and that doesn't include a large block of unknown shareholders. So currently the float is "underwater" and the MMs are in the precarious position of having to even up their books, or cover so to speak. Normally this wouldn't be the case, they could shuffle shares to make it look legal, but with a buyout, every share will have to be accounted for, which means they have no choice but to buy back shares to cover their short position. The unique thing is that the longs hold more than the float so, they will be buying back at our price.

Like I said this is unique, the underwater float coupled with the buyout creating a short squeeze that will make for some very wealthy people, At the MMs expense for a change.

Remember, "He who sells what isn't hisn, buys it back or goes to Prison."

Having said all that be prepared to see games from the MMs like we've never seen, because at this point they are set to loose millions.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i will buy 10M shares more on monday at 0.0009...i hope this stock will take off but it has a good chance IMO
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
if you can get in at .0009 good for you. This is as close to a guarentee that you will find in a stock at this point.

Just remember that you will be joining the longs who hold more than the float and won't be selling until .006 to .05 region. You would be wise to hold to that region as well, because the MMs won't be able to get most of the shares they need to cover with until that region.

You will see alot of ups and downs until the buyout is final, but ultimately they will have to go to that region to find the shares they need. Believe me they will be trying hard to shake them loose before then, hang on for the ride.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
.0016 - .0017 by Tues

 -
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
Just curious, what are all your plans for selling?
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
People are claiming to expect anywhere from .004 to .05, as noted above.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
Go Long...Stay Strong >> make the MM's pay the dearest price

between friends and family we hold 15+ million shares..........all going long


I didn'y buy this stock to make 10 - 25%( which is a good gainer) , i bought it to make 4-25 fold, and if LONGS STAY STRONG and don't give in to the MM"s, IMO we should realize these gains


GLTA
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
.0016 - .0017 by Tues

 -

Thank You I agree. It's refreshing to see someone post a realistic close for a stock. It will run over the course of a few days or longer.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I am afraid it could run and then not announce news for a while. Then crash.

Don't know what I am going to do. As long as they have a good buyout you will eventually be rewarded. If they pump it and then dump on news that the buyers backed out you are screwed.

Wait and see I guess.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
It may take awhile, people have been saying its going to run and it hasn't been. People want to believe the stock they are in is the one to be in for the week, I just saw that comment in another thread in fact when I believe a lot of other stocks will crush that one in terms of gains. :shrug:

I've been holding 8.5 million shares, and guess what - it hasn't been running anywhere yet. As for the "Dog" being 99% accurate, sorry thats 100% innacurate. [Smile]

Hopefully we find out soon whats the dealio.

GLTA
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Let the games begin, in my opinion this stock is going to fly, or do OK, or stay the same, or possibly go down. I am just glad I am along for the ride.
 
Posted by byob on :
 
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=JPHC&read=43392
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
By: dogcatcher17
17 Apr 2006, 10:17 AM EDT
Msg. 43392 of 43424
Jump to msg. #
JPHC: We are hearing that good news will be coming out this morning. We hear that it is a very important piece of news that should put everything on the fast track for this week. We are very confident that a major announcement will definitely happen this week, in our opinion. Have a good day. Good luck to all.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
ask now at .001

go baby go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
.0010!
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
price now at .001
bid at .0009

its going !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
Just hit .0011!

Getting ready to take off!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Announces Filing of Form 8-K/A Current Report With Audited Financials of Macro Communications, Inc.
Monday April 17, 11:41 am ET


LAS VEGAS, NV--(MARKET WIRE)--Apr 17, 2006 -- JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER" or the "Company") (Other OTC:JPHC.PK - News) today proudly announces it recently filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission an amended Form 8-K /A Current Report disclosing the audited financial statements of Macro Communications, Inc. ("Macro") for the periods ending December 2003 and December 2004. The amended Current Report also includes the required unaudited proforma financial information that now includes the acquisition of Macro.
ADVERTISEMENT





In the month of September 2005 JUPITER completed its acquisition of Macro, a US-based telecom services company. JUPITER believes this amended filing completely supports the conclusion that JUPITER is now on its way to being a business with sufficient sales and assets to eventually achieve meaningful earnings per share and to continue to build value for its shareholders.

The amended Current Report confirms Macro's audited revenues of $18,808,567 for the period ended December 31, 2003, $ 11,871,442 for the period ended December 31, 2004 and unaudited revenues of $4,754,684 for the period ended June 30, 2005. Further details disclosed in the amended Current Report can be found in the aforementioned amended Form 8-K/A Current Report.

Our recent Form 8-K filing continues Management's plans and objectives for the Company to finalize its reporting obligations following the acquisition of Macro in September 2005 and it facilitates our continuing discussions that Management believes will result in a material transaction with a potential acquirer/merger candidate. Management further believes that such discussions have recently progressed to a level where the Company now anticipates the successful completion of a transaction within the very near term.

Although Management is encouraged and remains optimistic at this stage of the discussions, no assurances can be given that an acquisition or merger transaction will be agreed to by the parties or that such a transaction will be approved by our shareholders, if required.

ABOUT JUPITER GLOBAL HOLDINGS, CORP.

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. is a holding company with interests and developments in a diverse number of growing industries. JUPITER plans to achieve a leadership position through the building of a synergistic network of innovative, profitable and global businesses.

Statements contained herein that are not based on historical fact are "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. JUPITER Global Holdings Corp. intends that such forward-looking statements be subject to the safe harbor created thereby. Such forward-looking statements are based on current assumptions but involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause JUPITER Global Holdings Corp. actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from current expectations. These risks include economic, competitive, governmental, technological and other factors discussed in JUPITER Global Holdings Corp. applicable public filings on record with the U.S Securities and Exchange Commission which can be viewed at its website at http://www.sec.gov
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060417/0123304.html
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
"Our recent Form 8-K filing continues Management's plans and objectives for the Company to finalize its reporting obligations following the acquisition of Macro in September 2005 and it facilitates our continuing discussions that Management believes will result in a material transaction with a potential acquirer/merger candidate. Management further believes that such discussions have recently progressed to a level where the Company now anticipates the successful completion of a transaction within the very near term."

Here we go...

In with 6.4 million shares bought at .00075 average price...

Now I'll just have to figure out when to sell...
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
FAST FACT: By 2007, prepaid phone services will generate revenues of over $100 billion per year. – Source: Informa Telecoms

http://web.incomm.com/products/wireless_airtime.asp

Can you 'em knocking? Uh, Hello? Who's there? Oh, you want to buy Macro.... got it!!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
looking forward to the end of day run!
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Would love to see EOD run

Then JPHC would be a nice gapper on Tuesday

News expected between Tues - Thurs re: BUYOUT
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
raises to .001 for a trade of 666 shares. lol
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
a little more action would be nice --- i'd like to see a little run or a dip washing out the day traders --- have a buy order at 8 for 1.6 mil!!!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
so much for either [Big Grin] -- -tomorrow is another day!
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
they're listing live L2 in pinksheets.com now. hope is a good sign
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
i bought 525,000 more today at .0009...will keep buying at under .001

mm's- it's kinda like shawshank redemtion...time and pressure...time is on our side, and pressure is on yours

good luck mm's- us longs don't need it on this one !!

hope you eat the big one mm's !!!!!!!!
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
Feels good to see your account in the green [Smile] lets see what the next few days will bring.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Yesterday was a good volume and a couple of ticks up. Only the begining folks, expecting good news this week. For those that have been kicking themselves for missing the usxp run, now is your chance, IMO this one will be even better.

From .001 to where the longs decide to let the MMs cover. Will be a fun ride.
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
I got in this morning, what do others think about this one..?
 
Posted by cali99boy on :
 
I also got in this in the morning *0.0009
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
 -
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
Any other thoughts?
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
the cross is getting ready to form..a little more buying pressure and she is getting ready to cut loose
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
thanks for the thoughts Ohio, i followed your suggestion from the RSHN Board and did some research last evening on this one...hopefully we will see some better results this week on this one than we have seen with RSHN the past couple of days...
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
the mm's are trying to pull all the stops now...the dealine is near, and they are panicking

sucks to be them right now !!!!
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
.0007 BUY BUY BUY
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
well that certainly sucks.. i was enjoying the .001+

ohh well..
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
looks like the dog has spoken again, that's probably why it's dropping, check the RB board
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
i think all the dog bashing is pretty funny.
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
I'm not sure if you're referring to me, but if you are I'm definitely not bashing dogcatcher. I've made good money thanks to him [Smile] (sold yesterday at 0.001)
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
ohh no, not you [Wink]

i'm referring to the rb board.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
well well well --- picked up some more at 9 and 7 in --- it better return to the tens!!!
 
Posted by paulbest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ohio_trader:
price now at .001
bid at .0009

its going !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ohio
I really appreciate the tip on Jupiter.
And I may have bought in at .0007, have not cked.
I sold VRDM at .25 now its up above 30.
So i should have held.
All this sellinf/buying/selling/buying....the same stock over and over is not for me.
You guys must have nerves of steel.
I'm a softie working with my wife's little savings.
I think I need to exit soon. And stay in the mining stocks.
In these micros one can go from "rags to riches" then back to rags all in one day..

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
anyone know what could have happened? I don't think it's the mm's this time around... huge volume ---> any ideas?
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
580 million shares traded....heavy volume, barely any movement...Why?
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
thats what I'm wondering to, especially since they now have had over 1 bill in volume over two days.

Any ideas? I thought this was alot of volume!! I was looking for .0015 by now.
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
Bid climbed to .0007...let's move up...volume should be pulling this thing dramatically one way or the other, let's hope for a pul up...
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
order didn't fill at .0006 so that's a good thing!
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
let's see some green today, heavy volume, yet nooone is talking about this one....
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Had an order in a .0006 for another million, no fill either
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
looks like there will be a spread very shortly on the bid and ask....0007 v. .0009...let's see the bid close the gap...
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
huge volume going through ---> hmmm
 
Posted by Darth Vader on :
 
I got filled for 3 mill at .0006. Lucky me I guess [Smile]
 
Posted by Soylent Green on :
 
Had to jump in for 1.25mil *.0007.

Should be a no-brainer.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
Darth --- you suck [Big Grin] --- j/k
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Soylent Green:
Had to jump in for 1.25mil *.0007.

Should be a no-brainer.

I Did the exact same thing.
 
Posted by cowlowski on :
 
Does scottrade really suck this much?? I show that the low for the day is .0008 but orders have gone through at .0006.
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cowlowski:
Does scottrade really suck this much?? I show that the low for the day is .0008 but orders have gone through at .0006.

Yes, it does suck that much. LOD is .0006
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
Scottrade LOD for me shows .0006...which is correct.
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
Darth Vader you sucked everybody here....You're a good player!
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
climbing....push push push
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Did you guys see the 500 trade?

possible meaning > Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction of the 500 trade. Sometimes - if in the middle - keep the price right where it is.

In this case, it looks like 8 and 9 are the range right now.

price fixing n. a criminal violation of federal anti-trust statutes, in which several competing businesses reach a secret agreement (conspiracy) to set prices for their products to prevent real competition and keep the public from benefiting from price competition. Price fixing also includes secret setting of favorable prices between suppliers and favored manufacturers or distributors to beat the competition.
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
Where are we moving?
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
upp???
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Hello all, new to this stock. I picked 4.5 mil. and looking to have some fun!
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=JPHC&read=44218

NEWS
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Is this usually a more happening board or is it always this quiet?
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
I see, thank you...lol
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Thanks, roi.

Dunno, jump'em, haven't got a clue why it's so quiet. GLTe1.
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=JPHC&read=44218

NEWS

Please be careful on how you label things.

This ISN'T NEWS, but RUMOR.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Apologies to the board -

I thought I wrote Dog News - I would never give a RB URL and call that news [Eek!] - I've never seen a stock react so much to one poster. I've been around a while, and that is just insane the reaction that post created this a.m.
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
where is the movement with the volume...?
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Interesting, Copied from RB

By: dogcatcher17
18 Apr 2006, 04:01 PM EDT
Msg. 44279 of 44282
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JPHC: To all of the non believers and/or name callers here: I am only telling people here what I have been hearing. I never said that the deal was not going down. I never said to sell the Stock. I only told people that I heard that there could be some news out. I said that I heard that the news could be something that some people may consider as negative. I said that I heard that this news would in no way effect the big announcement. I said that I heard that the news would be out this week. I have only been trying to let people know what I have been hearing and to give people my opinions. I never said that the deal was dead. I never said that I thought people should sell. Now we have a lot of name calling and an ever going list of people on ignore. I have only said to people my humble opinions and what I am hearing. That is it. I never said to sell anything, buy anything, or that deals were going dead. Please there is no need to look deeper into things than that. Trust me, I want a big announcement as much as much as everyone else. I still wish everyone here the best. Have a good night.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
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Posted by gfm50 on :
 
Interesting roiresearch. What are your predictions then?
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
If we clear .0011, I expect a move to the .0015 - .0018 range

Since we are all anticipating 'buyout' news, it is hard to place an actual price on this company

Supposedly getting news tomorrow - most likely will set us up somehow for the buyout news
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I was reading a buyout article where revenues were used as a measureing stick. In some cases you see multiples of 1 X to 1.75 X revenues. Of course it could be higher, lower, or it may be a merger instead of a buyout, or they just might buy a controlling interest at a set price.

With revenues of .0045/share you would think a straight buyout would be close to that level. At 1.75 X then could be .006. That would be nice news to wake up to.

The key is usually the terms, how do they pay, how long does it take, etc.

I think today was a shake and accumulation day. Hoping for .0015 tomorrow. Maybe higher depending upon rumors. As we get closer to D-Day I think volume will climb and we will run.

If this hit .0015 - .002 tomorrow I might sell or might not, haven't decided. I figure someone knows something about the news and if we reach the plateau sellers will jump in.

I'm not sure the best way to read it. Would like to hold to .004 and I think it could go there, but have been burned for holding too long a few times.

GLTA
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by paulbest:
All this sellinf/buying/selling/buying....the same stock over and over is not for me.

You should never play like that unless you know a stock and the sector like the back of your hand (playing on the dips and spikes). If you keep backing out of your losers and immediately running to something based on hype or even your own gut feeling, you are probably going to break yourself out of the market very quickly.

Find something you BELIEVE in and wait for its day to come, no emotional attachment allowed and no screaming murder every time something dips. [Smile]

Momentum in either direction can move a stock price very quickly, dont let the market makers play you like a fiddle.
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
Let's see a sharp rise tomorrow in PPS~
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
tick, tick, tick, tick,tick

times running out mm's
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
i hope tomorrow brings good things.. wasn't happy to see it hit .0006 but i know it wasn't a real .0006 either.. only a few were filled at that price.. nice to see a .0008 close..

hopefully we'll reach .001 tomorrow.. but a .0015-2 would be really nice [Smile]

all the best
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
I'll take a nickel, who wants to see a nickel? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
i'll take it! although i doubt we'll see it [Wink]
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
I'm easy to please and I like happy deals on both sides. How about a penny UBSS, thanks kindly.
 
Posted by ruthie on :
 
Good sound advice on playing on the dips and spikes and on playing stocks you believe in...

Hope you all have a good trading day!!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
BxA on Voxbox (VXBX) is .012x.02
thats strange....... can u gap with no volume?
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
A lot of selling going on this morning with low volume...any insight?
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
Probably just people who just now saw what happened yesterday. I usually only have access for the first couple hours myself.
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
s....l....o....w....d....a....y.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Not a lot of action here...dissapointing all my dd says we should be happy right now!
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
E, how long you been in jphc?
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Same question to you Agent
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
Not long...Yesterday Morning...will hold and see what EOW brings
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
I've been in it since Feb - bought in at .0003 --> how about yourself jump?
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
I also bought yesterday...4.5 mil * .0008, I don't think I made a mistake but I am still pretty darn new at this.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
well rumour has it that news will be coming out ("big news") this week!?!?!? So we shall see!
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
I sure hope so, I bought this with profits I took from rshn, which was my first lesson in don't get emotionally attatched to stock...lol. Rode it from .0013 to .01 and right back down...expensive lesson. But now I hold free shares in that stock have a small profit and 4.5 mil here so I am still a happy camper!
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
hoping for that news as well. then people will jump on that ol' bandwagon
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
I am trying to by more at .0007 this morning, right now I hold just over 1m. Good luck to us.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Odd, it looks like 5 different sells of 150K.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Would be nice if someone woulk sell me 500K at 7.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
I tried all day yesterday to get filled *7 but had to go to 8
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Could be a down tick coming...alot of sell off and only2 MM's at 7 now, you get your wish Jim.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
still have my order in for a million and change more at .0006 hopefully I get filled this time around!

Announcement coming this week, im buying all i can on the dips
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Yep, came through a minute ago. I am a happy man.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
I love your signature Jmoove...lmao!
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Last 29 transactions
28 sells
1 buy
 
Posted by paulbest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
I also bought yesterday...4.5 mil * .0008, I don't think I made a mistake but I am still pretty darn new at this.

Yep I aslo bought 5M yesterday and realized the mistake, and now hopefully its sold by now.
Going into gainers.
FRom now on I only buy stocks on the rise.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Paul no offense but have you bought a sub penny and made money yet....I saw your rshn ordeal and now this...be careful buddy. I would hate to see you get tanked.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Patience my friend patience.
 
Posted by paulbest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
Paul no offense but have you bought a sub penny and made money yet....I saw your rshn ordeal and now this...be careful buddy. I would hate to see you get tanked.

Not yet. I've lost in RSHN , 2K in one day
1K in Verdium and now $500 on Jupiter/JPHC all these losses I took after one day buy/next day sell.

Thats all history
Now I'm reday to make up for losses.

Sure my chip pile is getting low, but haven't you seen those poker contests where the guy is down to his last few chips nad comes back to win the pot.
Well thats me,
Guess where I will in fact double my money.
NDOL
Its a sure 100% gain in the nest week,
Sure it may not be the thosand % gain that is possible in RSHN and JPHC but one must weigh the amounts of risk.
Which is my nest tip for noobies on my thrad, Notes In Wise Investing.

Paul
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Glad to see you are up beat, go get'em!
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
I am also re-tooling...I will trade with no emotions, I will ride free shares, I will be patient and most importantly I will do dd until the cows come home....well it sounds good anyway!..LOL

GLTA!!
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
No trades in 25 minutes...wow!
 
Posted by paulbest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
No trades in 25 minutes...wow!

This is why I dumped all 5M shars. no volume, no gains.
This is a pretty good pick late next week, and into the following weeks. This week is too early
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
I bought with unsettled funds, so I have three days before I can sell anyways. I say let it takes its course...A good course that is...lol
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
You can still sell, you just won't be able to use that money until everything settles.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
paul go get a book called Trading In The Zone by Douglas. Did wonders for my trading. I feel 1000% more comfortable in my chair watching numbers. It does not teach you squat about trading but it teaches you pyschology and if you are trading in the right mind set the rest will follow. Of course assuming you have some knowledge of the market =)
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Thise guys over on RB are relly a bunch of pricks. I'd like to get them all in one room and place bets on the winner. Allstocks kicks a$$.
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
Thise guys over on RB are relly a bunch of pricks. I'd like to get them all in one room and place bets on the winner. Allstocks kicks a$$.

Yea, not only does the forum software suck, but the guys are all guessers and pumpers.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Jim I am not familiar with rb..what is it?
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
Raging Bull

http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=OTCF:JPHC

Totally worthless.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
another message board R a g i n g b u l l . c**
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
I don't like other forums such as Ihub, I like allstocks. When do you fellows suppose we will see a little movement?
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Just curious, I was reading back in the forum a bit and came across this a couple of days ago...any thoughts..true..un true...possible?

quote:
Originally posted by ajman:
Wally, you're are absolutely correct in thinking the MMs are going to be playing with this one tomorrow. But even the MMs won't be able to control this one once the MOMO train leaves the station, and it IMO the trip started Friday with the filing of the 8KA.

The 8KA was one of the obstacles that needed to get taken care of before the buyout, the first step to current financials. They have been saying that once they start filing to get current they would be coming at a rapid pace. I believe we will see the 10Q and the 10K this week and maybe by weeks end the news we've been waiting on.

We have to remember that although this is a pink, it is in the unique position of being tremendously shorted. The float by all counts is around 2.5B shares. Rinderles a poster on another board has tallied the shares being held by us longs at around 3B shares, and that doesn't include a large block of unknown shareholders. So currently the float is "underwater" and the MMs are in the precarious position of having to even up their books, or cover so to speak. Normally this wouldn't be the case, they could shuffle shares to make it look legal, but with a buyout, every share will have to be accounted for, which means they have no choice but to buy back shares to cover their short position. The unique thing is that the longs hold more than the float so, they will be buying back at our price.

Like I said this is unique, the underwater float coupled with the buyout creating a short squeeze that will make for some very wealthy people, At the MMs expense for a change.

Remember, "He who sells what isn't hisn, buys it back or goes to Prison."

Having said all that be prepared to see games from the MMs like we've never seen, because at this point they are set to loose millions.


 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
I think it will go down before it goes up, we are going to see at least one more shake before the momentum turns in our favor. JMO
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
ajman is absolutely correct IMO. THe 8k was the start of the trip, next come the financials, then the 10 twins K&Q, then just sit back, enjoy the ride. Pick your own exit point.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
not only possible, but probable. Even after yesterdays dump where the MMs no doubt covered some of the shorts. IMO, they are still underwater.

The quicker this all comes together the more probable the above scenario is. jmho
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
We need to keep buying up avail. share to keep them out of their (MM's) hands. I increasd my position today and I feel that any price under .001 is a good buy. JMO, of course.
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
Where is the volume no trade since 2:15?
 
Posted by paulbest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
paul go get a book called Trading In The Zone by Douglas. Did wonders for my trading. I feel 1000% more comfortable in my chair watching numbers. It does not teach you squat about trading but it teaches you pyschology and if you are trading in the right mind set the rest will follow. Of course assuming you have some knowledge of the market =)

Good I'll certainly look up the book.

I sold all of JPHC due to its uncertainity factor, which is high. Too high at the moment for me as I need a pick with a very high CERTAINITY factor, which is NDOL.
Sure the gains may bot be as great as the possibilities here in JPHC but as I say I need quick gains soon/now, as i have other stocks i want to put money in.
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
WHERE IS VOLUME
 
Posted by paulbest on :
 
Volume on next news.
Next news?
Anyones guess.
 
Posted by E-Z on :
 
I'm in limbo of jumping in this tomorrow or RSHN.

RSHN looks more appealing to me, but this one could be good to make a quick buck when it moves. Question is, when will it move???
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I just keep thinking about the wording of the press release.

quote:
very near
wonder what very near means?
 
Posted by paulbest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by E-Z:
I'm in limbo of jumping in this tomorrow or RSHN.

RSHN looks more appealing to me, but this one could be good to make a quick buck when it moves. Question is, when will it move???

Well have you looked at NDOL?
Thats another possibility.
 
Posted by paulbest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
I just keep thinking about the wording of the press release.

quote:
very near
wonder what very near means?
fess up, what red flag do you think, you might be seeing?
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
I need to go back and read some of my posts. I believe I've already posted about the games the MM's would play. Enough said there. I could be wrong but I also believe I posted that any potential merger/acquistion takes a bit of time and doesn't always happen as quickly as we might like. As someone else stated we are in the middle of SEC filings getting updated which IMHO is part of the final processes before a merger/acquisition. I expect to see a few filings this week and the problem with financial filings is that people view them differently.

I expect to see some progress from where the last reporting was but don't expect to see that the company is profitable at this time. None of this makes a lot of difference at this point. Keep in mind that we are talking merger/acquisition. Usually in these cases it has as much to do with potential and compatability with the acquirer/merger as with anything else.

Make your own decisions as to the strategy you will use in trading/investing in this stock. Some will flip and play into the hands of the MM's but that's natural some will sell on the way up to hedge against losses and some will hold thinking they hit the mother lode. Whichever way you trade this make sure you have done your own DD so that you won't try to blame anyone else for pulling the trigger too soon or holding too long.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by E-Z on :
 
I did look at NDOL several days ago (when I didn't have any funds), but it's had a really nice run already and I'm afraid I'm too late for it.

quote:
Originally posted by paulbest:
quote:
Originally posted by E-Z:
I'm in limbo of jumping in this tomorrow or RSHN.

RSHN looks more appealing to me, but this one could be good to make a quick buck when it moves. Question is, when will it move???

Well have you looked at NDOL?
Thats another possibility.


 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by paulbest:
I've lost in RSHN , 2K in one day
1K in Verdium and now $500 on Jupiter/JPHC all these losses I took after one day buy/next day sell.

Read that a few times.

I'll say it again, dont let the MMs play you like a fiddle. [Smile]
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
don't jump into the ocean without learning how to swim.

Sorry paulbest. Many of us remind folks to be cafeful and many do not heed the advice given.

Always do your own DD and good luck.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
I think very near means sooner than soon but later than now. LOL. I wish it meant yesterday but that is wishful thinking. Have a great evening. TMAN...
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Losing money is easy and those guys won't give it back.

There are different trading strategies.

1. Only play the stocks currently running. If you watch the boards and get in early on a combination of news and technicals and chatter you can do ok.

2. You can try to pick stocks you believe within 3 months of running. Hoping to buy close to the bottom. Hold them til their time comes.

The losses I have are on both types, you get in too late on a running stock and it pulls back. The biggest disappointments were stocks I played 3 months out. They started dipping and I sold at a loss, right afterwards they soared.

Not long ago I figured what I would have made if I had held through the dip for a big win and it was over 500K.

Do your DD and find a stock you believe in and stick by it. Don't fall in love with it, because new info can reveal a lot of negatives. If you still believe in it keep it til it has its day.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
the market giveth the market taketh away...............GO JPHC WHOO HOO
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
Dips enable MMs to pickup shares again and sell them back to you at a higher price if and when it goes back up. On a run pullbacks are normal, enough people freak out on dips and sell for losses that it enables them to keep playing their games without putting in another quarter.

People line up and throw money at them.

Knowing when to get in and get out entails several details you'll find in your research and your own gut feel from experience. Having the patience, is sometimes taught to you the hard way from losing by playing the game too quickly. Plenty of stocks can pull back 2-3% on a monday morning after 2 or 3 sells. 5 minutes or so hardly determines the outcome of a stock. Some others like GZFX at some points in their trading cycles go up and down 10% each day, making excellent swings for some people and making some people who try to PLAY it get beaten.

Buy high sell low will beat you up, learn to fight back. [Wink]
 
Posted by paulbest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyRotten:
Losing money is easy and those guys won't give it back.

There are different trading strategies.

1. Only play the stocks currently running. If you watch the boards and get in early on a combination of news and technicals and chatter you can do ok.

2. You can try to pick stocks you believe within 3 months of running. Hoping to buy close to the bottom. Hold them til their time comes.

The losses I have are on both types, you get in too late on a running stock and it pulls back. The biggest disappointments were stocks I played 3 months out. They started dipping and I sold at a loss, right afterwards they soared.

Not long ago I figured what I would have made if I had held through the dip for a big win and it was over 500K.

Do your DD and find a stock you believe in and stick by it. Don't fall in love with it, because new info can reveal a lot of negatives. If you still believe in it keep it til it has its day.

this is a good post.
I had to sell RSHN , jphc as neither was in the "moving mode"
I need a quick and sure gain.
Now. Not tomorrow = next month.
NDOL is that quick gain/very low risk factor for me at this moment. Its my safest bet for a quick doubling+.
VRDM looks to be in a hold pattern, as does RSHN..

With that gain I can then add chips to my pile and take on a few more possibilities.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
I know how you feel about getting out at the wrong time Johnny. WMB, ELN, MSSN(went private)and USXP all ran like there asses were on fire after I got out. I still get shook out from time to time but I have learned one important thing. Its not a loss unless you sell below where you bought it. Just because it shows you have xx amount of dollars worth of a stock doesnt mean much until that amount is in dollars in your cash account. That is a hard thing to learn when you are trading. Have a great evening. TMAN...
 
Posted by daytrader1 on :
 
prolly getting into IPO of Complete Production Services is not a bad idea either. sure 20%+, can go upto 75-100%+ if you play the day trading right.. revenue increase of 1110%, 100%+ increase in profit margin and energy stock definitely play in its favour. freeing some funds for a day should not be that difficult!
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by paulbest:
I need a quick and sure gain.
Now. Not tomorrow = next month.

Why do you "need" it now? Are you trying to live off your trades? Just curious.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
maybe trying to pay off gambling debts? aaaaaah i just got the shivers.......
 
Posted by McShooter on :
 
Paulbest,
Buy Low and Sell High!!!

500 into 100K...You Gotta' Believe!!!
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Good post tman, in simple terms, PATIENCE, PATIENCE, PATIENCE

quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
I know how you feel about getting out at the wrong time Johnny. WMB, ELN, MSSN(went private)and USXP all ran like there asses were on fire after I got out. I still get shook out from time to time but I have learned one important thing. Its not a loss unless you sell below where you bought it. Just because it shows you have xx amount of dollars worth of a stock doesnt mean much until that amount is in dollars in your cash account. That is a hard thing to learn when you are trading. Have a great evening. TMAN...


 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
If we all knew what were sure gainers tomorow, every trading day, we wouldn't be here unless we were all patting each other on the back about how filthy rich we are.

The only sure thing in pennies, is you are going to pay commission fees on trading. If you want steady gainers, you need to get back to the big boards, not pinks and OTC stocks. If you want huge gains, you have to hunt down your prey, and WAIT.

If I was making 50-500% every single day on pennies because I could pick exploders, I'd be out goofing off enjoying that money. I'd be so rich that I'd probably be helping to upgrade portions of several third world countries like Bill and Melinda Gates.

Patience rules this game. People with the jitters are going to find their account doing the diarrhea cha cha.

I know because I learned the hard way, I already posted on that. In under 3 weeks I lost over 10 grand, getting out too soon on some and in too late on others. Those lost funds inspired some self-education. It all started by backing out from a stock with a late PR long promised, it came out 3 days after I sold my position which would have netted me around $14,000 profit (I would have been selling at just around 4% under its peak price of day). Allowing that frustration to effect me inspired bad decisions, voila.

Since you made such amazing gains on the big boards I dont know why you'd come here if its not working.
 
Posted by edgewise on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by E-Z:
I did look at NDOL several days ago (when I didn't have any funds), but it's had a really nice run already and I'm afraid I'm too late for it.

quote:
Originally posted by paulbest:
quote:
Originally posted by E-Z:
I'm in limbo of jumping in this tomorrow or RSHN.

RSHN looks more appealing to me, but this one could be good to make a quick buck when it moves. Question is, when will it move???

Well have you looked at NDOL?
Thats another possibility.


lol.. that's what I said about NDOL when it had run up to .15.
I told myself it had already ran and that now it was gonna fall back down.
Damn retrospect. Woulda been an easy triple.

Just wanted to throw that out there.
I'm not in NDOL, cuz ya never know when a stock's gonna run out of gas. But who knows, maybe it could turn out to be a dollar play soon.
 
Posted by E-Z on :
 
I know what you mean edge. I've been watching several stocks over the last several days that I thought had already had their run, but then they ran again. I hate jumping in something that has already had a run, but some of these stocks right now just won't quit, especially oil stocks.

Well, I'm sure they'll quit as soon as I put my money in them. LOL
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Chart for JPHC is set up so incredibly nice...

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=JPHC&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p83558465713
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
I just hate to see this thread on the second page. Sorry.
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
It must be me, but whenever I get into a stock, the thing alwasy tanks and idle's.

I think I must have the touch of death or something.

Here, I am thinking I got in on this at the bottom .0007 to have it playing with .0005 now?

*sigh* Sometimes, it's just not fair.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rael:
It must be me, but whenever I get into a stock, the thing alwasy tanks and idle's.

I think I must have the touch of death or something.

Here, I am thinking I got in on this at the bottom .0007 to have it playing with .0005 now?

*sigh* Sometimes, it's just not fair.

So it's your fault, glad that I know that, I needed a scapegoat to pin this on. Thank You. [Smile]
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
naw its all good, get used to the shake. im just pissed this has been taking months while i missed the RSHN and Ethanol plays. Patience......good things will come
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
Ya, in the future let us know your stock picks, so we can get out of them before hand. [Razz]
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
lol, See Jim, your out of the barrel and we can blame Rael now. I missed that oportunity at 5/6. I would have bought a few more. Dang it. TMAN...
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
14 mol. on buys in last 10 minutes. Better than sells...lol

Go JPHC
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
"Out of the barrel" thats a funny joke. Oh to be a lumberjack, not for me thank you. LOL
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
I think it will go down before it goes up, we are going to see at least one more shake before the momentum turns in our favor. JMO

UH Huh. I don't think that that was the big shake, didn't last long enough. MM's want to create a panick at least half the day, if not 3/4. IMO.
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
Rael stick in there bud. News will come by eventually.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
the dog has spoken. *woof*

By: dogcatcher17
20 Apr 2006, 12:18 PM EDT
Msg. 44823 of 44852
Jump to msg. #
JPHC: I am hearing that things are looking really good and that things can happen at anytime in my opinion.
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gfm50:
Rael stick in there bud. News will come by eventually.

heh, just a bad string of luck. [Smile]

Between VWKM sucking me dry, PHBT looking like a pipe dream and GWGO I just want to hit a home run finally.

My last winner was USXP at .038 from my buy and rebuy at .0005 and .0021
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
If news is of the positive sort there will be no more shakes IMO. Man I am getting antsy. This time next week I would like to be putting premium unleaded in my tank, and at the price of gas do you think I'm joking?
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
something is going down........
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
yeah... i was just thinking the same thing... huge volume
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
2 on 8 at the ask. can i get a 9?
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
dog posted on RB again, that's why (IMO)
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
really? That much??? Volume shot up in the past 15 mins by 100 million... that would be crazy... if he has that much power!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
i just hope he's right... i picked up some more today at .0008 (3million --- total at 11.2)
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
if thats true then that is absolutely insane. $20 he is a 15 year old making stuff up. =)
/sarcasm
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
if thats true then that is absolutely insane. $20 he is a 15 year old making stuff up. =)
/sarcasm

LMAO!! That would be great, a 15 year old and his pet monkey show up on 20/20 one night talking about how they randomly pick stocks haha
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
All the 8s are gone. Lots of MMs on 9, hopefully they'll peel off quickly and let the bid chase them
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
lol
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
look at them open that spread up to keep this from running...the MMs are struggling...i cant wait till this run screws them all
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Careful. Everytime I see someone say "The MMs are gonna get punished on this one" it seems like they hear you and take it personally, because almost without fail they seem to bring it back down and crush you. [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by dbrownRC:
look at them open that spread up to keep this from running...the MMs are struggling...i cant wait till this run screws them all


 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
Careful. Everytime I see someone say "The MMs are gonna get punished on this one" it seems like they hear you and take it personally, because almost without fail they seem to bring it back down and crush you. [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by dbrownRC:
look at them open that spread up to keep this from running...the MMs are struggling...i cant wait till this run screws them all


oooooooooooo there's an MM spy amung us!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
where did all the momo go?
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
everyone over at RB ran out of money lol
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
lol no doubt the dog is doggy stylen with'em!
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
LMAO Jim...good one!

quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
If news is of the positive sort there will be no more shakes IMO. Man I am getting antsy. This time next week I would like to be putting premium unleaded in my tank, and at the price of gas do you think I'm joking?


 
Posted by JARW on :
 
well, looks like JPHC just ran out of gas for the day!!!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
we should be seeing a green close in my opinion!
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
one more MM * .0008...
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
I also see that E...lets hit .0009!!!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
the dog once again

By: dogcatcher17
20 Apr 2006, 02:23 PM EDT
Msg. 44926 of 44935
Jump to msg. #
JPHC: I am hearing that good news will be out tomorrow. GLTA eom.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
UBSS just went backwards on us.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
I don't know this dogcatcher fellow, is he trustworthy or a blow hard?
 
Posted by Soylent Green on :
 
They swear by him on RB....99.9% accurate.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
he's full of dogsh*t [Big Grin] --- dunno... he's our "inside man/dawg" lets hope he comes through with his "news story"
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
didn't he used to be on here?
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Well then, I say go dogcatcher fellow!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
Found this on RB:

As of 6/30/05 there was
856,372,406 O/S


Dec 5, 05 issued an additional
1,209,117,280 and 756,758,440 Common to CEO and CFO respectfully.
CFO disposed of 716,758,440 * 0 dollars
CEO disposed of 1,209,117,280 * 0 dollars
This left the CFO with 40,000,009 shares and
The CEO already had 80,000,004 shares.

Jan 9, 06 issued a buyback of
(1,000,000,000) shares of the next year
Not yet happened


Feb 3, 06 issued an additional
1,483,170,000 and 1,220,000,000 Common to CEO and CFO respectfully.
CEO disposed of 1,483,170,000 * 0 dollars
CFO disposed of 1,220,000,000 * 0 dollars
This left the CFO with 40,000,009 shares and
The CEO already had 80,000,004 shares.

Feb 2, 06 issued an additional
150,000,000 Common to individual
525,000,000 Common to individual
316,381,215 Common to individual


March 14, 06 issued an additional
150,000,000 Common to individual
76,000,000 Common to individual
42,000,000 Common to individual
120,000,000 Common to individual
220,500,000 Common to individual
180,000,000 Common to individual

67,027,027 Preferred Shares to CEO
52,972,973 Preferred Shares to CFO
This left the CFO with 92,972,982 shares and
This left the CEO with 147,027,031 shares.

That is what they own.
CEO owns 147,027,031 and 67,027,027 of those shares are Preferred
CFO owns 92,972,982 and 52,972,973 of those shares are Preferred


You cant look at the 8K for insiders you have to look at the Form 4’s and understand how they work.

As far as the outstanding shares at 5 billon well lets add it up.
856,372,406 as of 6/30/05
150,000,000 Common to individual
525,000,000 Common to individual
316,381,215 Common to individual
150,000,000 Common to individual
76,000,000 Common to individual
42,000,000 Common to individual
120,000,000 Common to individual
220,500,000 Common to individual
180,000,000 Common to individual
147,027,031 CEO
92,972,982 CFO

Total Float = 5 billion O/S – 2,876,253,634 aquired shares through 8K’s and form 4’s so the float equals 2,123,746,366.

Isn’t it amazing when a plan comes together.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Jarw what does it mean when the CEO disposed of 1,483,170,000 * 0 dollars
CFO disposed of 1,220,000,000 * 0 dollars. Sorry if its a stupid question but I dont quiet get it. Thanks in advance, TMAN...
 
Posted by steef on :
 
going uppppppppppppppp!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
Jarw what does it mean when the CEO disposed of 1,483,170,000 * 0 dollars
CFO disposed of 1,220,000,000 * 0 dollars. Sorry if its a stupid question but I dont quiet get it. Thanks in advance, TMAN...

That's a good question, i don't know! I just quoted what i found the statement on the bottom isn't mine! I was hoping someone else would be able to further depict what the above entails!
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
Look at the chart when it came from 2' Still keep this until it will go up to $0,002. Good feeling on that.
Just my opinion....
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I think I saw this situation before and it's becaus they don't quote less than a penny, so anything under a penny (for example .0005) would show up as $0.

I'm not 100% sure though, but I think it just means he sold some at a price under a penny.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
I think I saw this situation before and it's becaus they don't quote less than a penny, so anything under a penny (for example .0005) would show up as $0.

I'm not 100% sure though, but I think it just means he sold some at a price under a penny.

That sounds right.. i thkn i recall that earlier when this thread was started we had something similar!!!

My bad... multi-tasking! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by no_patience on :
 
We all wait forever for this "News"
What will really happen is anyones guess. How long it will last is anyones guess.
However, we all know they are educated guesses. Thanks to those whome provide the usefull information here. I will oblige when I can.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
not another black day --- hoping this is the calm before the storm!!!
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
no_patience, if you have a cristal ball, I'll pay you to predict the future...You should probably be rich, but not coming from stocks...If you wait all the time you'll never buy, and then never sell...good luck anyway...lol
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
I don't know this dogcatcher fellow, is he trustworthy or a blow hard?

He has called reverse splits etc months before they happened, when nobody believed him. Does he know by the DAY when things happen? No.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Agent, if you don't mind me asking what kind of position do you hold in jphc?
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rael:
Here, I am thinking I got in on this at the bottom .0007 to have it playing with .0005 now?

7 wasn't the bottom, look a couple months back.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
Agent, if you don't mind me asking what kind of position do you hold in jphc?

8.5M for about 6 weeks now. And no, I'm not a dog follower specifically, he just happens to be around in the middle of this. I'm sure at least some here have read the PRs about the buyout news we are awaiting.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Seems like some have been waiting for a long time, How do we know we are any closer now? All I have seen so far are filings but no news. Not bashing just curious..I hold 4.5 mil.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
Jarw what does it mean when the CEO disposed of 1,483,170,000 * 0 dollars
CFO disposed of 1,220,000,000 * 0 dollars. Sorry if its a stupid question but I dont quiet get it. Thanks in advance, TMAN...

There was a discussion about this on another board when the form 4's and 8k came out. First off 0 means exactly that zero. I've looked at enough form 4's and plenty from JPHC to tell you that if it was .0001 it would show that. Look at the filing. On the line showing the acquisition the price is $0.0001 then on the line below showing the disposition it's 0(zero).

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename %3D0001108017%252D06%252D000172%252Etxt%26filepath%3D%255C2006%255C02%255C17%255 C&symbol=JPHC

It was our belief that the 2 officers had retired the shares to the treasury. It seemed the only logical answer. It was our educated opinion but nothing has been verified.

Keep in mind that all the filings and the payments that are being made look to be in preparation for the merger/acquisition. It had to be done in order for anything to take place.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
Seems like some have been waiting for a long time, How do we know we are any closer now?

I'm in IGAI also and some have been waiting even longer (for a bump in PPS from news).

Buyouts take time, 6 months is a good estimate. People are carefull when moving money, as they should be. Dont want to be buying a company all dressed up Michael Milken style.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
i got this from the allstocks front page in a little guide about penny stocks.

"If the company headquarters is in Vancouver, Boca Raton, La Jolla, Denver or Las Vegas. . . . RUN AWAY. There is an old saying in the record biz, where thousands of demo tapes are sent every week. . . "if we reject 100 percent of those wanting a record deal, we will be correct in our decision 99 percent of the time. . .and that ain't bad"

By catagorically denying ANY company hailing from these cities, thus
rejecting 100 percent of them. . .we will be correct in our decision 99 percent of the time. And that is not bad.

Other suspect cities, which would require EXTENSIVE DD to justify,
include New York City, Dallas, Houston, Palm Springs or other cities of the Coachella Valley, Ft. Lauderdale or other cities in South Florida, any city in Nevada, ANY city in Canada where everyone can short-sell penny stocks, any other "resort" city. . .
If Gucci has a store there. . .then chances are your company does not
operate a 50,000 square foot building in the same town. . but rather is just one of many operations out of a small office there. "
JPHC = Vancouver
VOXBOX= Incorporated in NEVADA HQ IN VANCOUVER
btw. VOXBOX is no longer sponsoring Jason Leffer the racing dude.

Cow is officially on his toes and might be out of this stock at the drop of a pin.

MASSIVE EDIT: im doing a disservice to everyone but not posting the entire link.
http://www.allstocks.com/copia/html/the_basics_of_otcbb.html
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
Companies incorporated in Nevada and I believe Florida are very protected.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
aaaaah
 
Posted by QBID'n on :
 
Form 8-K/A for JUPITER GLOBAL HOLDINGS CORP


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

21-Apr-2006

Financial Statements and Exhibits


Item 9.01 Financial Statements and Exhibits.
(a) Financial Statements of Business Acquired.

Included in this filing are the following financial statements:

(i) Audited Balance Sheets as of December 31, 2004 (restated) and 2003;

(ii) Audited Statement of Operation for the years ended December 31, 2004 (restated) and 2003;

(iii) Audited Statement of Cash Flow for the year ended December 31, 2004 (restated) and 2003;

(iv) Audited Statement of Stockholders Deficit for the year ended December 31, 2004 (restated) and 2003;

(v) Notes to the Audited Financial Statements.

(vi) Reports of Independent Auditor;

(vii) Unaudited Balance Sheet for the six months ended June 30, 2005;

(viii) Unaudited Statement of Operations and Deficit for the six months ended June 30, 2005;

(ix) Unaudited Statement of Cash Flow for the six months ended June 30, 2005;

(x) Notes to Unaudited Financial Statements;


-3-

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

(b) Pro Forma Financial Information.
Included in this filing are the unaudited consolidated pro forma financial statements giving effect to the acquisition of Macro by the Registrant. The unaudited pro forma financial statements are presented for illustrative purposes only. The pro forma adjustments are based upon available information and certain assumptions that management believes are reasonable.

The unaudited pro forma consolidated balance sheet combines the historical balance sheets of the Registrant and Macro as of June 30, 2005 giving effect to the transaction described in the Agreement dated September 13, 2005 (Acquisition) as if it had occurred on January 1, 2005.

The unaudited pro forma consolidated statements of operations combine the historical statements of operations of the Registrant and Macro for the six month period ended June 30, 2005 giving effect to the Transaction as if it had occurred on January 1, 2005.

The unaudited pro forma condensed consolidated financial statements described above should be read in conjunction with the historical financial statements of the Registrant and Macro and the related notes thereto. The unaudited pro forma information is not necessarily indicative of the financial position or results of operations that may have actually occurred had the Acquisition taken place on the dates noted, or the future financial position or operating results of the combined company.

(c) Exhibits.

99.1 Financial Statements listed in Item 9.01(a) above

99.2 Pro forma Financial Statements listed in Item 9.01(b) above
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
wow, check out all that volume [Big Grin] ---2.8 mil in 20 mins whoohoo lol --- let's see it dawg!
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Uptick boys....0009!
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
We'll finish green today!
 
Posted by bmwboyee on :
 
why don't you guys call the transfer agent. they should be able to tell you the O/S. if not, there is something going on. they should be able to verify the O/S on any stock they represent. So give them a call.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
One interesting thing about dog is he also posts on other threads over there at rb. igtg, mtdx are two that he has recently posted on and he is right about news about 90%. He isnt a god in my opinion but he does have a source somewhere or he is directly involved with either news sources or he is psycic. lol. Have a great day. TMAN...
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Impat:
We'll finish green today!

I doubt it. I think we'll finish even. Friday's are days when Day traders usually pull out and count the weeks rake.
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
There is only one bid left *.0008...
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
Check that. It's gone! Gap up baby
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
all we need now is buying
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Probably need news first
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Why the gap between bid and ask?
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
Why the gap between bid and ask?

It was probably a day order from yesterday

Trading firm didn't get their refreshed orders unitl a few minutes before the open. Then we had a decent buyer at .0008 today

No gap, just usual crap
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Should we really expect this news soon or are we aways out?

quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
Why the gap between bid and ask?

It was probably a day order from yesterday

Trading firm didn't get their refreshed orders unitl a few minutes before the open. Then we had a decent buyer at .0008 today

No gap, just usual crap


 
Posted by TajUdDin on :
 
when are we expecting the news.
I donot see any selling, everybody holding tight
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
RB boards down or just me?
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TajUdDin:
when are we expecting the news.
I donot see any selling, everybody holding tight

about a month ago
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
yup, RB is down

Might be a good thing, that way the news is sprung on us, w/o Dog saying anything
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
sbcrow, i cant load RB either, just the top bar that says ragingbull on it, very odd!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
good thing allstocks isn't down.. i don't think i could handle that... i've created a co depentant relationship --- without allstocks i can't exist and without me... well it'll be the same ?!?! [Big Grin] --- is today boring or boring?!?! Just got back from test ridding a motorbike --- too much fun... now news has to come out so i can sell and buy it in 3 days time [Big Grin] ! Did i mention - bored!
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
JPHC -- Jupiter Global Holdings Corp.
Com ($0.0001)

COMPANY NEWS AND PRESS RELEASES FROM OTHER SOURCES:
JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Provides Update Regarding Current Corporate Plans

LAS VEGAS, NV, Apr 21, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER" or the "Company") (OTC: JPHC) today provides an update regarding its current corporate plans.

JUPITER is pleased to announce that the Company is in the final stages of completing a prospective merger transaction with an acquirer/merger candidate. The Company now anticipates the announcement of a transaction is imminent.

Today, the Company filed a Form 15 with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, which terminates or suspends the Company's duty to file periodic reports with the Commission and effectively makes JUPITER a non-reporting company. The Form 15 filing is a prerequisite of the merger transaction and is a positive development for the Company and its shareholders, as the filing of the Form 15 completes another step in a series of steps needed to accomplish the completion of a merger transaction.

Although Management is encouraged and remains optimistic at this stage of its prospective merger, no assurances can be given that an acquisition or merger transaction will be actually closed by the parties or that such a transaction will be approved by our shareholders, if required.

ABOUT JUPITER GLOBAL HOLDINGS, CORP.

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. is a holding company with interests and developments in a diverse number of growing industries. JUPITER plans to achieve a leadership position through the building of a synergistic network of innovative, profitable and global businesses.

Statements contained herein that are not based on historical fact are "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. JUPITER Global Holdings Corp. intends that such forward-looking statements be subject to the safe harbor created thereby. Such forward-looking statements are based on current assumptions but involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause JUPITER Global Holdings Corp. actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from current expectations. These risks include economic, competitive, governmental, technological and other factors discussed in JUPITER Global Holdings Corp. applicable public filings on record with the U.S Securities and Exchange Commission which can be viewed at its website at http://www.sec.gov

Please visit our website: www.jupiterglobal.net

For more information please contact:
Jupiter Global Shareholder Services
Phone: 1.800.963.6532
Email Address: Contact via http://www.marketwire.com/mw/emailprcntct?id=01F10A21C6E591A8

SOURCE: JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp.

Copyright 2006 Market Wire, All rights reserved.

-0-

SUBJECT CODE: Financial Services:Venture Capital
Financial Services:Investment Services and Trading

Search for Dun & Bradstreet reports on this company.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
OOOOOOOHHHHKKK, interesting.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
......... The Company now anticipates the announcement of a transaction is imminent.......


[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
"The Company now anticipates the announcement of a transaction is imminent."

"no assurances can be given that an acquisition or merger transaction will be actually closed by the parties or that such a transaction will be approved by our shareholders, if required"

seems like a contradiction to me...
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
they have to put that last part in there for liability purposes
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
They have to put that no assurance in there. Why? because until its done, you never know. They have to cover their azz!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
I think what they are saying is:

They will announce specific details of the transaction;

and the transaction will be contingent upon closing of the deal and/or approval of shareholders, if required.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
I think that second sentence in your post Bax is just boilerplate. On every buyout merger I have ever seen they put that in until they pr the actual event. Does anyone know why they filed to stop filing since they have been doing so? Just wondering. TMAN...
 
Posted by bmwboyee on :
 
"Today, the Company filed a Form 15 with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, which terminates or suspends the Company's duty to file periodic reports with the Commission and effectively makes JUPITER a non-reporting company."
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
sweet for literally the 15minutes im going from my house to my dorm, away from the computer i missed the news. im never leaving a computer ever again. bring on the redbull and mac n' cheese
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
i think they always have to say it until they have actually signed documents! and are 100% done! It formally known as covering ones a$$ in case of a worst case senario!

Well the dog was right, but the news isn't anything grand --- just a 2 minute break in the waiting game --- back to boredom! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
get ready guys, I have a feeling this is going to be one for the books! just bought another 1 mill on the bid at .0007, have an order in for 500k more, then im tapped out, upt to 9 mill in this
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
yup, the lawyers make you say that stuff :-)
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
and you know what. i have class at 1pm-330pm and guess what. Im sure the deal will be announced and im gonna get screwed. ive been waiting months for this moment!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
and you know what. i have class at 1pm-330pm and guess what. Im sure the deal will be announced and im gonna get screwed. ive been waiting months for this moment!

skip it.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
ahhh i don't think we'll have news until next week! jmho though! Too bad RB is down... whenever the dog barks everyone buys... saw that yesterday 120 million shares traded within 30 mins of the dogs announcement!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
ya i could always do that....... =)
they prolly gonna announce after hours and make shorts crap themselves ovre the weekend and everyone will get to reflect on how awesome it is having phat l00tz
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
RB works again, on my computer at least
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
LAS VEGAS, NV, Apr 21, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER" or the "Company") (OTC: JPHC) today provides an update regarding its current corporate plans.
JUPITER is pleased to announce that the Company is in the final stages of completing a prospective merger transaction with an acquirer/merger candidate. The Company now anticipates the announcement of a transaction is imminent.

Today, the Company filed a Form 15 with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, which terminates or suspends the Company's duty to file periodic reports with the Commission and effectively makes JUPITER a non-reporting company. The Form 15 filing is a prerequisite of the merger transaction and is a positive development for the Company and its shareholders, as the filing of the Form 15 completes another step in a series of steps needed to accomplish the completion of a merger transaction.

Although Management is encouraged and remains optimistic at this stage of its prospective merger, no assurances can be given that an acquisition or merger transaction will be actually closed by the parties or that such a transaction will be approved by our shareholders, if required.

this clears the way for the buyout news next. Hopefully announced today and then off to the races.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
"JPHC: This is great news. We felt that the other day that there could be something negative coming out, but this certainly clarified some things. We now believe that the deal will be announced between Tuesday and Wednesday of next week. We still believe that the deal could be anywhere between $0.005 - $0.01. The key word in today's release was the word imminent. This will not drag out any further than the next couple of days in my opinion. The Stock right now is probably a screaming buy. Just my humble opinion. Good luck to all."

thank god i sacrificed those three lambs and that virgin last night to my dogcatcher voodoo doll.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
It seems DC17 was mistaken about negative news after all

Going Up - L2 just shifted hugely in favor of bulls

I have real time L2 on Poweretrade PRO btw - no pinksheets.com for me
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
Wow very positive news today. Something might be happening next week...
 
Posted by MickeyP on :
 
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By: socal_helix
21 Apr 2006, 01:32 PM EDT
Msg. 45069 of 45098
(This msg. is a reply to 45061 by fourcloze.)
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FOURCLOSE: Shorts buying WHAT shares???????? Nobody is selling and the float is SOOOO gone!!!!!!!!!! They will need to raise the pps higher to tempt people into selling their shares.

THAT IS WHY if the longs hol dout, we can sell at the pps WE want. make the shorts BURN!!!!!!!!!! HANG TIGHT
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Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Now timeframe is Tues or Wed next week

Back to sitting on pins & needles - yes, it is painful, but not as painful as being short [Big Grin]
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
GUYS, GUYS, GUYS, let's not talk ourselves into believing that they are going to announce a merger this afternoon. COW, go to class a mind is a terible thing to waste (I heard that once). THey just submitted form 15, now there are more hoops to jump through. It will happen (IMO) just give it a little time. As for me, I am scarfing up all the cheap shares that I can buy, my goal is 10 mil. Almost 1/2 way there, I wish IVOC would get of their a$$abd do something so I could free up some capital. GLTA
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
It seems DC17 was mistaken about negative news after all

Going Up - L2 just shifted hugely in favor of bulls

I have real time L2 on Poweretrade PRO btw - no pinksheets.com for me

You da man --- keep any interesting developments coming our way! thx
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
im going to class dad =*(
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
the Form 15 clears them of most of the hoops, that form also means that this will be a true acquisition, no reverse merger or something stupid like we see with alot of these pennies. I believe we see a true stock buyout. Also, I believe that the acquirer will be another pubic company, I doubt it is another micro. However, about 10% of my gut tells me this is a private company that will offer a cash deal.
 
Posted by deleet on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
"JPHC: This is great news. We felt that the other day that there could be something negative coming out, but this certainly clarified some things. We now believe that the deal will be announced between Tuesday and Wednesday of next week. We still believe that the deal could be anywhere between $0.005 - $0.01. The key word in today's release was the word imminent. This will not drag out any further than the next couple of days in my opinion. The Stock right now is probably a screaming buy. Just my humble opinion. Good luck to all."

thank god i sacrificed those three lambs and that virgin last night to my dogcatcher voodoo doll.

0.005 to 0.01? wow. Time to load up on more shares.
 
Posted by superman7 on :
 
JPHC...the .001's are coming soon alot of buys at 9
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
im going to class dad =*(

Good Boy.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
We have lift-off!!
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
Sweet!!!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Probably missed any chance to buy at .0009 with a bunch of MMs sitting there.

Holy crap, while I was here posting I missed my chance to buy at .0010 too! LOL, guess I'll just hold what I have.
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
Pressure is gonna blow the top off!!!!
 
Posted by superman7 on :
 
JPHC..big news is coming!
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
If we close above .0011, we will fly to at least .0015 - .0018 today - GAPPER on MONDAY
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
If we get to SSGI I'm buying everyone here a beer (He's at .02 [Wink] )
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
YEA BABY!!
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
They'll probably end up brining the price up to get shares.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
If we get to SSGI I'm buying everyone here a beer (He's at .02 [Wink] )

Hell, if we get to .02 i'm buying the whole brewery. GO GO GO GO, Jims a thirsty boy!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
holy crap, a buy for 31.8 mil
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
You think this is nice, wait for the real PR!!!!!!!!!

BUY, BUY, BUY!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Just changed from 8 MMS at .0011 to 4.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mustang21112:
They'll probably end up brining the price up to get shares.

Thats the hope, just don't sell, make 'em drive it up to the sky. Yeah baby yeah.
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
almost at 0.0012! YEEHAAAWWW
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
LOL. You must have more in this than me. I'm thinking a nice sports car though [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
If we get to SSGI I'm buying everyone here a beer (He's at .02 [Wink] )

Hell, if we get to .02 i'm buying the whole brewery. GO GO GO GO, Jims a thirsty boy!!!!!!!!!

 
Posted by etothes on :
 
Hold Long and Strong on this one!
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by etothes:
Hold Long and Strong on this one!

I concur, don't be the one left not concuring. [Smile]
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
MM's trying a lil shake...
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
IMMINENT - whoa baby! [Eek!]
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
Look at the volume, jumping like crazy
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
1 left * .001
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
If you get out now, I'm not sure your getting back in (my opinion). Of course nobody here is even thinking that at this point.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
<<<<Holding Strong!!!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
my 11.2 million aren't going anywhere anytime soon!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Why sell when I'm riding free!! Thats one way to boost confidence is to play with "their" money!!!

<-- Holding strong!!
 
Posted by GSilk316 on :
 
Holding at a cool 3.57 mil from .0007
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
Nice run guys!
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
This is a nice way to end the week should be huge Monday
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
Monday might be a drop before the final news imho.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Now I have to explain to my wife why i'm in such a good mood. I should just go home and randomly beat the kids so she doesn't suspect anything. (joke)
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
Wow uber volatility right now.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
11's on the ask.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
Now I have to explain to my wife why i'm in such a good mood. I should just go home and randomly beat the kids so she doesn't suspect anything. (joke)

LOL Slap 'em w/ a fish

 -
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Seems to be some resistance at .0011.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
I did that last night, I try to keep my routine fresh so they never know what to expect. Maybe I'll whip a rolled up wad of cash at them. GO JPHC
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
lol
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Is anyone buying right now? If so what are you getting filled at? I am thinking of grabbing 5.5 mil. more. But I would like to do it at .0009. Possible?
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
OMG WOOT we might break .0011 for the first time in a while!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I just grabbed 5 mil at .001. You might get filled at .0009 but I think there's a line on the bid.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
theres no fill for me at 9. I'll wait a bit longer than change to 1.
 
Posted by thoth on :
 
I can't get filled at .001
 
Posted by MovingUp on :
 
I just got filled at .001, small amount though.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
EOD run maybe
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
A lot of mirrors right now.
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
I sold at .001 had no problem filling.. really risky at this point.. hoping to buy back in monday at .0008

glta
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yolkarmy:
I sold at .001 had no problem filling.. really risky at this point.. hoping to buy back in monday at .0008

glta

[Confused]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Of course there's no problem SELLING at .001... that's where all the buys are!
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
hit .0011 go jphc
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Seems like a lot of profit taking at .001, makes it hard to get to .0011.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
DK, do you have a smiley kicking another smiley in th A$$ ?
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
seems to be more investing than selling though, volume steadily rising.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
HOLD people, HOLD. How else do you expect to get the price up. DUHHHH
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
.0009x.001
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
hmmm I wouldn't sell
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
i don't think anyone is going to sell below .001 today..
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
Sold...what?!?!? Why?!?!?
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
i think it'll drop back a bit before it goes forward.. its a risky move i know, but i wanted to increase my position.. if it works, great.. if not, i'm still up over 1600.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
yeah, selling now is crazy. this should do nice on Monday.
 
Posted by thoth on :
 
Woot! My order just filled at .001! Thanks whoever sold.
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
anyone having trouble at .001?
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
volume 508558.5k
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Last 10 - 15 minutes should be crazy

At least I hope

 -
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
mine are up for grabs at .005 --- anyone! [Big Grin] (placed the order --- just in case [Smile] )
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
mine are up for grabs at .005 --- anyone! [Big Grin] (placed the order --- just in case [Smile] )

Your such a giver JAR, always willing to sacrifice for the betterment of your fellow man. I to aspir to be a humanatarian so I will sacrifice mine for .007. THere, now I don't have to go to church on Sunday.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
i'd like to see this close at least at .0011.
 
Posted by thoth on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
mine are up for grabs at .005 --- anyone! [Big Grin] (placed the order --- just in case [Smile] )

Too low imo. I have mine set at .04
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
LMAO!!

quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
mine are up for grabs at .005 --- anyone! [Big Grin] (placed the order --- just in case [Smile] )

Your such a giver JAR, always willing to sacrifice for the betterment of your fellow man. I to aspir to be a humanatarian so I will sacrifice mine for .007. THere, now I don't have to go to church on Sunday.

 
Posted by JARW on :
 
there yah go buddy... we all shall meet up at cottons' brewery on sunday --- or prayers have been answered! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
DK, do you have a smiley kicking another smiley in th A$$ ?

No, but I got one with a machine gun:

 -


And one with a bloody chainsaw:

 -


LOL
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
LMAOROTF, good shiznit
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
 -

Come here Mr. Shortie
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
LMAO!! Y'all got to much time on your hands!!

GO JPHC!
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
one more at 1 (UBSS)
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
 -

Come here Mr. Shortie

LMAO

Hey - check out my recent post in the PAIM thread. LOL
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Here comes the test

Will we finish above .0011

and yes,

I do have too much time on my hands
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Where does one find these funny icons?
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
This should happen if you sell this today:


 -
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
www.planetsmilies.com
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
looks like it might stay at .0011 for a change
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
is a trade for 1500 a signal?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Partial fill maybe.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
good close, should gap
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
or a big roller at $1.65 [Big Grin] --- damn --- some student wont be gettin their happymeal tonight!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
i'm happy! This'll brighten up my already sweet sunny weekend! Have a good one JPHCer's see yah on monday!!!
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
was that a 5m sell at 0.0009 RIGHT before the close?! or did it close at 0.0011
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Did this close at .0011?
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
ETRD 0.0011 100000 15:17
HDSN 0.0011 10000 15:16
PERT 0.0011 5000 14:18
MAXM 0.0011 5000 14:42
HILL 0.0011 5000 15:02
UBSS 0.0011 5000 15:56
TASL 0.0011 5000 15:57
JPTC 0.0011 5000 15:59
SBSH 0.0012 5000 04/17
SEAB 0.0012 5000 14:04
DOMS 0.0012 5000 14:19
TDCM 0.0012 5000 14:49
VIEW 0.0012 5000 14:50
FRAN 0.0012 5000 16:01
SACM 0.0015 5000 14:10
BEST 0.0016 5000 14:02
EFGI 0.0019 5000 14:12
NITE 0.002 10000 15:51
VERT 0.002 5000 15:52
VFIN 0.003 5000 15:54
SSGI 0.02 5000 13:15
cWECK 0.0011 5000 14:55
cVNDM 0.0012 5000 03/07
cFANC 0.0013 5000 03/21
cJEFF 0.0014 5000 13:39
GSCO U 02/15

What does it mean when it has a c in front of the MM's name?
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Excelant close, nice day folks. See you bright and early Monday. GO JPHC
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
I think it closed at .001. Ameritrade shows a trade at 1602 PM. Bastuds. TMAN...
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
I meant sunday at cotton's brewery [Wink] !!!
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
closed at .0011
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
c means the MM is closed (i think)

and my broker shows it closed at 0.0011
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Thanks, my L2's showed .0009 as last price, but 3 seconds after 4 it went to .0011.

quote:
Originally posted by mustang21112:
closed at .0011


 
Posted by JARW on :
 
yeah close at .0011 here to (Waterhouse)
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
thanks opethian
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
very damn nice then. just checked ameritrade and they are at .0011 now. Now to relax and finish the week at work. lol. Have a great weekend. TMAN...
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
Close appears to be .0011 at TD waterhouse and yahoo finance (reuters).
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
tonight you're going to see all MMs with a c in front of them

man is it weekend again???!!1 I wonder how high it will gap on monday
 
Posted by E-Z on :
 
Nice!!! Congrats all!!!

Unfortunately I didn't follow my instincts on either one that I posted.

Someone kick me!!! [Mad]

quote:
Originally posted by E-Z:
I'm in limbo of jumping in this tomorrow or RSHN.

RSHN looks more appealing to me, but this one could be good to make a quick buck when it moves. Question is, when will it move???

Might wait for a dip on Monday morning. We'll see.
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
EZ...You have all weekend to reflect over your mistake [Wink] Don't worry about it, you'll get in early next week and will ride the wave!

Best of luck and have a great weekend all.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
the bashers have left AMAZING how quick they scatter.....lol
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
Ohio...I picked this one up from your reference on RSHN...thanks buddy. Any others, I'm all ears!

Have a great weekend
 
Posted by Soylent Green on :
 
Well....we ended up kickin' some azz and takin' a few names today.

Didn't quite make it to the 70's though. Soon....very soon.

Go JPHC!
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
etothes, do some dd on ndol.pk. pr'ed they are going to the otcbb may 1, oil stock, buyout pr'ed and waiting on info. Have a great weekend. TMAN...
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
TMAN, been doing some research on that one for a while. Will work on it more this weekend and will make a decision on Monday.

JPHC - Once you pop, you can't stop.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by etothes:
Ohio...I picked this one up from your reference on RSHN...thanks buddy. Any others, I'm all ears!

Have a great weekend

-------------------------------------
hopefully they wrap up the deal over the weekend or monday , tuesday...so we can really start making some dough !!!

Good Luck Etothes

----------------------------------------
Paulbest,
you wish you stuck it out?
 
Posted by Burn on :
 
ohio trader: you still live in ohio?
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
yep
 
Posted by Burn on :
 
I live near Toledo.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
As did I Ohio, Thank you very much for the heads up, unfortunately the guy you intended it for was in and out in a day...I feel for the guy.

quote:
Originally posted by etothes:
Ohio...I picked this one up from your reference on RSHN...thanks buddy. Any others, I'm all ears!

Have a great weekend


 
Posted by SuperSniper00 on :
 
JPHC sucks. Now they dont even have to report. Real great.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Burn:
I live near Toledo.

Hey Burn...Are you originally from Toledo Area?
 
Posted by kkt6zv on :
 
what are some good message boards or forums besides ragingbull, investorshub, and allstocks?
 
Posted by paulbest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ohio_trader:
[


----------------------------------------
Paulbest,
you wish you stuck it out? [/QB]

yep sold my entire position.
Had I held, JPHC would have been my first solid green buck made in the pennies.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kkt6zv:
what are some good message boards or forums besides ragingbull, investorshub, and allstocks?

There are others out there..but not a real "nice" thing to mention them on here...that should be PM'd and most aren't quite as good as Allstocks...they try pretty darn hard to keep this board clean...where the others really have some pumpers...but not all of them...
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
paul.......why paul why?!
 
Posted by Soylent Green on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
paul.......why paul why?!

A 2K mistake......must have patience.
 
Posted by bluechipper on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SuperSniper00:
JPHC sucks. Now they dont even have to report. Real great.

Sniper, are you having fun f'n 7 of 9 tonight? you guys make such a cute couple. Oh,,, long time watcher, first time poster.
 
Posted by 10of13 on :
 
Yeah Sniper and 7 do have some negative attitudes...

Maybe they could start with some positives? What do yah say...???? Positive???
 
Posted by paulbest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
paul.......why paul why?!

duh
guess i gotta go read investing for dummies one or maybe 2 more times.
and as Soylant advice, alittle faith always helps.

a day late and a dollar short
pretty much sums up my first 2 weeks in pennies
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
I am still new so I am not great with charts yet, but when should we start wondering about the rsi? I know 72 is not out of the roof but I experienced the RSHN correction. Also is it possile that with big news the rsi will correct itself? Sorry for the newbie question.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by paulbest:
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
paul.......why paul why?!

duh
guess i gotta go read investing for dummies one or maybe 2 more times.
and as Soylant advice, alittle faith always helps.

a day late and a dollar short
pretty much sums up my first 2 weeks in pennies

You must decide what kind of trader/investor you want to be. My first few weeks of trading pennies cost be a bit but taught me a lot with a lot of help from some of the people on this board. I've been in this stock since January. I origninally bought in at .0003 sold half when it went to .0006 before the merger rumor started. I got my original investment out and now don't feel any pressure to sell. I can let nature take it's course. I've already decided where I will sell half of my current holding to take profit off the table and ride the rest as far as I can.
The biggest help I got was learning to decide where I was comfortable getting in and then immediately deciding my exit. I execute a Good Till Cancel order after getting my order filled and wait. Sometimes it happens in a day sometimes a few days, weeks or months. And just like everyone else sometimes I take it in the shorts. But I'm now making more profitable trades than losers and have gotten back my early losses.

This is going to be a nice ride. It probably won't happen in one day but I'd bet by weeks end .0011 will have looked like a bargain.

Good Luck To You
Wally
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
But wally, what made you to decide to buy at .0003? That's the one thing I can't master... finding the runners before ANY run happens. Was it news, or what?

The other problem is my timing as to when to pull the trigger, but that should right itself soon.. I hope.
 
Posted by bluechipper on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:
Originally posted by paulbest:
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
paul.......why paul why?!

duh
guess i gotta go read investing for dummies one or maybe 2 more times.
and as Soylant advice, alittle faith always helps.

a day late and a dollar short
pretty much sums up my first 2 weeks in pennies

You must decide what kind of trader/investor you want to be. My first few weeks of trading pennies cost be a bit but taught me a lot with a lot of help from some of the people on this board. I've been in this stock since January. I origninally bought in at .0003 sold half when it went to .0006 before the merger rumor started. I got my original investment out and now don't feel any pressure to sell. I can let nature take it's course. I've already decided where I will sell half of my current holding to take profit off the table and ride the rest as far as I can.
The biggest help I got was learning to decide where I was comfortable getting in and then immediately deciding my exit. I execute a Good Till Cancel order after getting my order filled and wait. Sometimes it happens in a day sometimes a few days, weeks or months. And just like everyone else sometimes I take it in the shorts. But I'm now making more profitable trades than losers and have gotten back my early losses.

This is going to be a nice ride. It probably won't happen in one day but I'd bet by weeks end .0011 will have looked like a bargain.

Good Luck To You
Wally

outstanding post Wally. I forgot my pasword and etc. so i had to sign in again at home, bluechipper, AKA cottonjim.
 
Posted by bluechipper on :
 
I always wanted to tell 7 of 9 off. I traded once because I listened to him. In RSHN at .0009, out at .0014. Fabulose, I made money, two weeks later it was at .01, F,U7, you are not credible. It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye, I just happen to have a sharp stick....... oh sevennnnnnnnnnn here boy,,,, come here.
 
Posted by DQ. on :
 
I sold out today guys,,,I think you all will be happy next week. I have held a long time. Bought at .0004 and sold at .001. That's what I love about this stock. You don't have to trade hundreds of stocks. Just learn a few. JPHC is famous for running from .0003 or .0004 to .001 or .002. If this drops a little, I will surely buy again. It is one of my ALL TIME favorites.
DDSI is always good also. Buy at .0002 and sell in the .0004 or .0006 range.
GLTA next week.
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
dq, i hope for your sake and mine that the buyout doesn't happen as early as next week [Wink] but its the risk we play..

if it does.. congrats to all those that held.
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Even if the buyout is in 2 weeks you may have to pay two or three times more for it.

I imagine it could go up two or three ticks a day for the rest of next week. Lots of volume and it has been publicized for a while.

The last pr said they thought it was imminent.

A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. If there were say 10 in the bush I might forget about the one. This could have 10 in the bush or none, so good luck.

Has anyone heard any more good rumors about any actual details? Why would they need to be a non-reporting company to do the deal?

Does it have to do with issueing more shares or avoiding a vote. Is the new company non-reporting?
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by paulbest:
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
paul.......why paul why?!

duh
guess i gotta go read investing for dummies one or maybe 2 more times.
and as Soylant advice, alittle faith always helps.

a day late and a dollar short
pretty much sums up my first 2 weeks in pennies

Paul -- I did the exact same thing when I got into this racket. INSN, no patience -- took a 50% hit and missed the run by two days.

If I can give you any advice as a newbie myself.

"You only lose money when you sell."

Your money may be locked up, but oh well. Set your GTC and walk away.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
I am still new so I am not great with charts yet, but when should we start wondering about the rsi? I know 72 is not out of the roof but I experienced the RSHN correction. Also is it possile that with big news the rsi will correct itself? Sorry for the newbie question.


 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
To all newbies !

You must watch out ! Last week, JPHC went up to $.0011 then the next morning it went down to $.0006. They tried to play a good game. I bought at $.0011 and get out at $.0007.
You must watch out on Monday to avoid losing your money.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Are you saying this is just big ol' pump and dump? Or something else?

Thanks in advance.

quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
To all newbies !

You must watch out ! Last week, JPHC went up to $.0011 then the next morning it went down to $.0006. They tried to play a good game. I bought at $.0011 and get out at $.0007.
You must watch out on Monday to avoid losing your money.


 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
ive been in this for a month and have seen the MMs manipulate the $h!t out of this stock and havent seen anything like this before. in my opinion a lot of new buyers came in especially after the form 15 news. Because of the form 15 news which is much much more concrete news than in the past, i dont think it will swing below .0009 maybe .0008, only if an MM is trying to shake which i think will fail. If the form 15 is really as solid as people say it is, and is mandatory before a buyout and JPHC CANNOT reverse merger because of the form 15 then im going to go as far as saying GAPPER MONDAY! This is my first penny stock i ever bought and my first buyout/merger but i think ive watched this baby enough to know that friday was a very unique day.
-Cow
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
The RSI is fine. When it gets near 90 is when you need to start worrying. RSHN's RSI was at like 95 when it fell. Look at the charts.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Thanks

quote:
Originally posted by jdg257:
The RSI is fine. When it gets near 90 is when you need to start worrying. RSHN's RSI was at like 95 when it fell. Look at the charts.


 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
I have only been in a short time cow, but I think you are correct. Everything I have seen so far says we are going on an uptrend that should be very strong. Thanks for posting!

quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
ive been in this for a month and have seen the MMs manipulate the $h!t out of this stock and havent seen anything like this before. in my opinion a lot of new buyers came in especially after the form 15 news. Because of the form 15 news which is much much more concrete news than in the past, i dont think it will swing below .0009 maybe .0008, only if an MM is trying to shake which i think will fail. If the form 15 is really as solid as people say it is, and is mandatory before a buyout and JPHC CANNOT reverse merger because of the form 15 then im going to go as far as saying GAPPER MONDAY! This is my first penny stock i ever bought and my first buyout/merger but i think ive watched this baby enough to know that friday was a very unique day.
-Cow


 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
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Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
JPHC shareholders, we have all waited patiently for this merger....lost a few folks along the way gained a few new ones, its time to start making some serious dough on this one !!!!!

set you goals now, cause if it does a quick fly and then a table or a drop, or a steady gainer up to .03 and beyond..YOU NEED A GAME PLAN !

i will sell in 'up increments' (and if it slides after rising may also sell down in increments)...I am in the fairly good position now( as most of you are) and will make sure I make profit on this now regardless

CAUSE...( after the merger is all said and done,<presuming> and it reaches a stable level don't know where it will go from there,i am not looking to part with the whole kit and kaboodle at once( unless something drastic occurs), but I waited and I will make $$$

Remember > Patience + Ignorance = Losses

IMO

***do your homework***

Ohio_Trader
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
correction ( wheww .03 i only wish, meant .003 and beyond)
sorry
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
Roiresearch,

Thanks for posting the chart. I am new at this and your analysis helps...I need to go to chart school!
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
To all newbies !

You played it like a newbie and dumped because someone said there may be news that could be viewed as bad, but nothing about a deal not being made. Your own fault, sorry but its true.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
Are you saying this is just big ol' pump and dump? Or something else?

Dont buy high and sell low, market makers know that SOME people will freak out when a stock dips and sell low.

This is why most people do NOT beat the street, they dont know what they are doing and they invest on hype and emotion.
 
Posted by Lib222KNH on :
 
Sorry for the newbie question, but what are the possible scenarios with this merger (its my first time dealing with one). I just want to make sure I'm ready to react to whatever the merger news could be. Thanks.

Lib
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
That is the way to play penny stocks. Do not hold over night. When I get in at .0011 and it did not go up but it went down, so I must get out as quick as possible to avoid losing more money. That is Penny Gamble.

Just want to make $300/day.

We will see what will happen on Monday !
I must watch out before I get in.

Live and learn !
 
Posted by DrWho on :
 
What most of you arent realizing is that you are treating this like a simple MoMo play. Its not and here is why.

5 billion O/S conformed with about half restricted. Of the 2000 shareholders registered, 150 alone own over 3 billion shares... that well above the Float.

Estimates of shorting is in the 2-5 billion range... once the news of a buyout/reverse merger hits, the shorts will have to fight with all the MoMo's and others trying to get in.

If the buyout range is .005 - .01, the shorts alone will drive this into USXP range.

Just food for thought.

The Dr
 
Posted by yourdiligence on :
 
JPHC could potentially attain .0033 (+) level again--I'm anxious to see if we can see some billion + volume days April 24th-28th. If buyers outweigh sellers then huge pressure is going to come to bear here--
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
That is the way to play penny stocks. Do not hold over night. When I get in at .0011 and it did not go up but it went down, so I must get out as quick as possible to avoid losing more money.

You are preaching about how to play pennies, by telling people to freak out and sell if dips occur? Stick to your day job, and let other people write the books on how to trade stocks.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
The biggest game in town, to start this week.

http://www.ncans.net/intro%20to%20naked%20short%20selling.htm

This article if you read the whole thing will give you a better understanding of how it all works.

This should pop up bigtime early this week, with all of the new players and groups coming in for the ride. This will be like riding the worlds largest roller coaster with flat spots on all of the wheels, best thing to do is hold on.

Don't be to surprised and don't panic if we have a huge volume day and only go up 1 tick or even down 1 tick. The biggest tool the MMs have to work with at this point is to short it some more. Believe me they can and will double the number of printed shares if they think that will help them in the long run. If they decide to do that we'll have the day described above. But instead of panicking, we should party, because this situation is unlike the other pinks that they do that to, all shares will have to be accounted for by the finalization date, which means their hole only gets bigger and our top pps only get higher.

Its very possible they will short this more to panic everyone, including and especially the new ppl coming in. They will probably let it run up a bit and let the new ppl buy in and then short it to get the newbies shares back on a retrace. That won't let them make much progress in covering but they will make money on the newbies that start to panic.

Do your DD and trust in your DD. They will shake hard this week. If they short us some more and bring the price down a couple of ticks, just smile, we know just how much that is helping us in the longer run. [Smile]
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
That is the way to play penny stocks. Do not hold over night. When I get in at .0011 and it did not go up but it went down, so I must get out as quick as possible to avoid losing more money. That is Penny Gamble.

Just want to make $300/day.

We will see what will happen on Monday !
I must watch out before I get in.
Live and learn !

That's why you have a one star rating.
In penny land a stock can move at any point on little news. It's all a gamble.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
People who bought at .0011 and sold the next day at anything less have no business trading JPHC.
The have done no research at all or else they would know that buying at .0011 was a deal.
JPHC has been in negotiations for a couple months and will be bought out or merge, probably this week since fileing a form 15 on Friday indicates this is a done deal.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vicki:
Roiresearch,

Thanks for posting the chart. I am new at this and your analysis helps...I need to go to chart school!

I find that if you can find someone to watch who is usually right on regarding chart patterns, than that is a good way to learn. Here is a guy on stockcharts that really was a good inspiration:
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Favorites.CServlet?obj=ID369857

He is not a penny stock trader, but if you study his charts, patterns, comments, I'm sure it will help you out. I focus on basic patterns like wedges and triangles. He does a lot more.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
$20 says this is the company they are getting bought out by.

VPMD: http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=VPMD

interesting......VoIP and in Canada.....JupiterGlobal VoIP and in canada.......

Excerpt from latest news:
"This is just one of the components of an overall restructuring program of the Company, together with a major announcement which will involve an exciting new opportunity with a major joint venture partner. This development will be detailed within the next ten days. The Company's website contents, together with its affiliated links, are now being revised with information on the Company's new activities/venture partners and VoIP technology product offers."

Why i think this is the company.
1. Just large enough to acquire JPHC
2. VPMD has an interesting in expanding its VoIP market.
3. Both canadian based
4. VPMD recently announced plans of a restructuring and merger.
5. As said by the article the news will be announced in roughly 10 days, in-line with dogcatchers prediction.

HELLLLLLLLO VPMD!!!!!!

-Cow

I think you owe us all $20.00
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
It does not matter how many star I have but it matter how much money I make on penny stocks!
Most of penny stocks are scammers. Watch out !

My gold is making $ 300/ day without losing a lot of money. I never hold any stocks over night !

$300/DAY
5 days / weeks
Total weekly = $ 1500 or More ( That is my gold )
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
Usually the company being bought goes up over what seems to be fair value, but it may give the buying company cheaper access to a new market than going other routes. So it is a good price for them.

After the merger the buying company may trend down because of the short term price of the merger.

Sometimes, when the street knows the buying company is going to make tons of money because of the merger the buying company immediately goes up.

So playing this you could sell on the run up, sell after the merger before it falls short term, or hold the new company because it may actually go up.

To play this you need more info than we currently have. I do believe there will be a run up, I do believe we will get a decent price, I don't know after that.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
stockforfun, you said,
"My gold is making $ 300/ day without losing a lot of money. I never hold any stocks over night !"
So you admit that you lose $ also while trying to make $300 a day.
If you had read up on JPHC you could have held, perhaps a week or two and averaged well above $300 a day instead of selling at a loss.
The stock you bought at .0011 last week will probably be .002-.003 or higher this week.
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
I lost money on JPHC but I make money on INSQ and PMED at the same day.

Buy 3 stocks and sell 3 stocks at same day. Make some money . That is my gold. I am not greedy. If I wait for big money, then I may be lose big money.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
This sounds almost too good to be true... if this is almost a guaranteed 2x3 bagger next week, why isn't everyone and their mother buying??? If you it's possible 10x bagger, why isn't every message board on the planet burning with this stock? Why not sell every holding you have and put it into this stock?

Again, I'm long here, not bashing, but I've seen in the past when things seem to good to be true, they usually are... I was hoping for a .0015 and calling it a day.

For all LONGS out there (bashers be quiet), what RISKS do you see with achieving the expected high PPS in the next few weeks, besides the merger not being completed of course?

Intelligent posts ONLY.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
payup plz link the news that says VPMD isnt buying out JPHC. As far as i am concerned it is a strong runner. Just because they said merger in the press release doesnt mean anything. They havent reported news in a month.

Also VPMD released that news around the same time JPHC did and around the same time dogcatcher barked, just putting together the pieces.

edit.............

if this is a cash buyout do we sell any shares or are our shares converted into cash right away?
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Repo, I am long in jphc, (disclaimer) I think that the biggest issue we face as stockholders is we dont know for sure what the valuation of jphc is. We all hope it is at least .004 but we dont know and that alone I think keeps buyers on the side line with their finger on the button. We dont know who the candidate is and we dont know what they plan to do. Cash, shares for shares, restricted stock. Until they make some more info known alot of folks are just waiting. I hope they get in in time and make some money.

Just for example...flst put out a cash buyout at .10. Sitting at .05. ndol, buyout in progress, no one knows the amount but the board, sitting at .44. twog, receive 1 share of buyout company for every 10 shares held. they are now restricted. Until jphc makes things known alot of people are going to wait and see. Just my opinion. TMAN...
 
Posted by Linux2 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ajman:
The biggest game in town, to start this week.

http://www.ncans.net/intro%20to%20naked%20short%20selling.htm

This article if you read the whole thing will give you a better understanding of how it all works.

This should pop up bigtime early this week, with all of the new players and groups coming in for the ride. This will be like riding the worlds largest roller coaster with flat spots on all of the wheels, best thing to do is hold on.

Don't be to surprised and don't panic if we have a huge volume day and only go up 1 tick or even down 1 tick. The biggest tool the MMs have to work with at this point is to short it some more. Believe me they can and will double the number of printed shares if they think that will help them in the long run. If they decide to do that we'll have the day described above. But instead of panicking, we should party, because this situation is unlike the other pinks that they do that to, all shares will have to be accounted for by the finalization date, which means their hole only gets bigger and our top pps only get higher.

Its very possible they will short this more to panic everyone, including and especially the new ppl coming in. They will probably let it run up a bit and let the new ppl buy in and then short it to get the newbies shares back on a retrace. That won't let them make much progress in covering but they will make money on the newbies that start to panic.

Do your DD and trust in your DD. They will shake hard this week. If they short us some more and bring the price down a couple of ticks, just smile, we know just how much that is helping us in the longer run. [Smile]

Thanks for the link, Ajman. I'm still trying to learn all I can about stock manipulation and this article explains it very well.

It's articles like this that sure make doing DD a whole lot easier.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
sbrcow, VPMD said they would announce news within 10 days. 10 days was up a long time ago.
Besides their PR said a joint venture not a buyout/merger.
This is what I think they were talking about.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060412/sfw012.html?.v=48
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
What are the risks here?

I really believe the risk is the chance of receiving restricted stock you can't sell for a year or two.

I think in some cases they give you enough to sell immediately to cover current cost but the rest of the deal may be restricted. Deals can be cash. Cash and stock combined. Cash, stock, and restricted stock.

Lots of combinations can be involved. We don't have a clue what it will end up being.

If they gave me 2X in current liqued assets plus 5X restricted I would take it.

Chances are though the 5X by the time it is unrestricted may be worth a lot less. Kind of like some dividends look great when given but are actually worthless when you finally get to sell them.

I am holding this so no way I want to discourage buying, just being honest about the risks. I think as long as the liquidity is enough to make some money now it is worth it.
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
I lost money on JPHC but I make money on INSQ and PMED at the same day.

Buy 3 stocks and sell 3 stocks at same day. Make some money . That is my gold. I am not greedy. If I wait for big money, then I may be lose big money.

Don't agree with never holding overnight but if it works for you I guess that's your gold???(GOAL)
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
Are yall waiting to place your orders until we find out the share valuation?

If not what are you planning to sell at currently?
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
I think I'm going to hold out till .0045. It's probably a little high, but I'm hopeful. That would be a nice 500% for me. I bought in a while back at .0009. I wish I had waited for the drop, but I was scared I wouldn't have been able to get in.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
I thought this was a takeover

http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=JPHC&read=35700

I'm placing my bet with the poster that somehow seems to know something ahead of everyone else

Takeover by a public company (not merger)

Shorts trying to wave their magic wands and confuse the situation - guess what, it's gonna bite you in the arse

 -

http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=JPHC&read=38230

[ April 23, 2006, 20:40: Message edited by: roiresearch ]
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
quote:
Originally posted by vicki:
Roiresearch,

Thanks for posting the chart. I am new at this and your analysis helps...I need to go to chart school!

I find that if you can find someone to watch who is usually right on regarding chart patterns, than that is a good way to learn. Here is a guy on stockcharts that really was a good inspiration:
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Favorites.CServlet?obj=ID369857

He is not a penny stock trader, but if you study his charts, patterns, comments, I'm sure it will help you out. I focus on basic patterns like wedges and triangles. He does a lot more.

Thanks for the link.
 
Posted by kkt6zv on :
 
I don't think that poster knows anything before anyone. Those posts were from march and he said those things would happen the next week from when he posted.

PREVIOUSLY POSTED:

"I thought this was a takeover

http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=JPHC&read=35700

I'm placing my bet with the poster that somehow seems to know something ahead of everyone else

Takeover by a public company (not merger)

Shorts trying to wave their magic wands and confuse the situation - guess what, it's gonna bite you in the arse


http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=JPHC&read=38230
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
last pr said merger
 
Posted by bmwboyee on :
 
yep, the last announcement said they were merging. read it.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
said merger/acquire
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
Okay JPHC'ers do you think today is going to be a good day? I'm ready to make some money!! lol
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Every day is a good day if your above ground, today is just going to be that much better becsuse I am long in JPHC at .0007 avg. A good day, and week for that matter IMO.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Anybody want to make predictions on the close today?

.0016 is my guess.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bmwboyee:
yep, the last announcement said they were merging. read it.

OK, now you read it [Razz]

JUPITER is pleased to announce that the Company is in the final stages of completing a prospective merger transaction with an [Eek!] acquirer [Eek!] /merger candidate

It's one or the other - both positive IMHO
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Anybody want to make predictions on the close today?

.0016 is my guess.

.0014-15
 
Posted by Burn on :
 
.0018
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
I don't know but it should be a fun day
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Only 1 mm left at .0011, with over 4 mil. before open looks like a good start!!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
12 already [Smile]
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
get past 14, and the l2's will start unstacking themselves nicely :-)
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
A lot of mirror type movement now, and 13's are coming quick!!
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Going up!!! [Eek!]
 
Posted by superman7 on :
 
ok i am in here at .0012 for some this could run lets see [Smile]
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
one more at 12
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
dog barks:

By: dogcatcher17
24 Apr 2006, 09:49 AM EDT
Msg. 45835 of 45841
Jump to msg. #
JPHC: I am hearing that tomorrow is "D" Day! I am definitely hearing that the deal could be anywhere between $0.005 - $0.01. Just my opinion. Good Luck to all.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
watch trades come in now... as long as the raging bull community still has $$$ they'll be buying right now!
 
Posted by cj on :
 
Excellent volume early this morning gentlemen, and i have seen bid/ask touch 0.0013 a few times early on.
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
RUN here we are...
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
about to take-off
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
.0012x.0013
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
would love to see news today and watch this run like crazy!
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Quick question, someone earlier in the post asked risks with mergers/takeovers and it was mentioned that restricted stock might be one risk, can anyone explain that scenario in more depth....Thanks in advance.

14's are VERY CLOSE!!
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
14!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
at this rate 20 isn't too far away!
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
.0012x.0014
 
Posted by superman7 on :
 
JPHC..the ask thinning on ever buy looks like it is finally ready to break out!
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
Tomorrow is D-day? damn i wish i had some more money to throw in
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Holy crap, we are flying through these sub-levels. 11 to a4 in laess than 1/2 an hour. SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Jumpem, restricted stock is simply stock that you usually cant trade immediately. Its not neccassarily a bad thing because it keeps people from dumping their new shares all at once. It allows the newly formed company base and grow without immediate dilution. Its a bad thing if your a day trader because you have to hold it. Just my opinion. TMAN...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Hmm..looks like my estimate of .0016 close might have been too conservative.

Congrats to those of you holding below .001.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
bout to hit the 15's
 
Posted by superman7 on :
 
.0014 is the big break!
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Thanks Tman!!

Looks like 15's are running at us!!

GLTA...GO JPHC
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
If .0014 breaks, "alerts" will sound for chartists and TA's.. watch them flock in.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
Holy crap, we are flying through these sub-levels. 11 to a4 in laess than 1/2 an hour. SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

to EXCITED, obviously affected my typing skills. YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES. You couldn't wipe the smile off my face with a crow bar.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
Does anyone know if this is shorted by the MM's?
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Hmm..looks like my estimate of .0016 close might have been too conservative.

Congrats to those of you holding below .001.

You and me both. This thing has legs, and with the rumor of tommorow being the day, and that price range estimate, no more predictions for me. The gloves are off.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
10 am shake --- how predictable!
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
That's why flipping is fun
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Hey, if you can buy at .0011 and time your trade just right, congrats to you.
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
we going the wrong way now
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
[Smile] ---> time time time ---> patience!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
It's called a shake... the MM's and daytraders blitz the market with sells... it's turning around now.
 
Posted by superman7 on :
 
thats because we hit resistance at .0014 and couldnt break through but i think we are close and mms are playing with it to mae people sell we may seee our .0014 hod again here very soon and this time break it! volume is huge lets wait and see

quote:
Originally posted by joker669:
we going the wrong way now


 
Posted by lostone on :
 
just got filled at .0011 .. was pretty quick
 
Posted by deleet on :
 
went to 12 and back to 11

been a while since this ones hit 12
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
is it me or is it a slow day today for everything?
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
Don't know if you have been following the headlines, but here's one that sounds interesting. Just thought I would pass it on. Symbol CDNC.

Cardinal Communications' Sovereign Homes Division Announces Additional $10,200,000 in Home Sales at Its Pumpkin Ridge Development
PR Newswire - April 24, 2006 10:22 AM (EDT)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jump to first matched term


BROOMFIELD, Colo., April 24, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Cardinal Communications, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: CDNC), a provider of voice, video and high-speed broadband communications services, and a specialized developer of residential real estate, announced today that its Sovereign Homes of Colorado subsidiary has entered into sales contracts for all of its existing inventory of single-family homes. In addition, it received a substantial number of sales contracts on pre-construction homes. The contracts involve homes within Sovereign's Pumpkin Ridge development, a modern single-family development located in Greeley, Colorado, approximately 60 miles northeast of Denver. These contracts, which when closed will represent approximately $10,200,000 of revenue to Cardinal Communications, constitute the first of several sales that the Company hopes to achieve over the next several months, according to Jeff Fiebig, president of the Sovereign division. Closing of the inventory homes will happen in the next few weeks, while completion and closing of the pre-construction homes is projected for the fourth quarter of 2006.

According to Fiebig, "The sale of these homes and the additional contracts we expect over the next few months put us well ahead of schedule, and will provide strong top and bottom-line financial growth throughout 2006. I am confident that we will completely sell out of our Pumpkin Ridge subdivision well ahead of projections. I am proud of Team Sovereign for their efforts to aggressively sell and finish these quality homes. We intend to take this successful game plan and implement it in our pending developments, including our Arizona project."

Sovereign Homes has been named one of the Preferred Builders for the 1600-home, master planned El Rio Country Club community project in northwest Arizona's Mojave Valley. The El Rio Country Club is a 640-acre gated community anchored by an 18-hole championship golf course.

About Cardinal Communications, Inc.

Cardinal Communications operates a suite of vertically integrated businesses that provide both bundled digital communications services (voice, video and high-speed Internet) and high-quality real estate to the residential marketplace. The Company's expertise in communication infrastructure and turnkey residential development allows Cardinal to capitalize on growing demand among homebuyers for modern residences that are pre-equipped with a range of digital communications options. The Company is also partnering with other developers that seek Cardinal's expertise in designing, building and operating residential communication networks that will deliver long-term revenue opportunities. Cardinal also operates Get-A-Phone, a provider of specialized local and long-distance calling programs in select U.S. markets.

For more information, visit the Company's corporate website at www.cardinalcomms.com, or call Craig Cook, Chief Administrative Officer for Cardinal Communications, at (303) 285-5348.

SAFE HARBOR STATEMENT: Some information in this release is forward looking. These forward-looking statements may be affected by the risks and uncertainties in Cardinal Communications and its subsidiaries and divisions. This information is qualified in its entirety by cautionary statements and risk factors disclosure contained in certain of Cardinal Communications' Securities and Exchange Commission filings. Cardinal Communications wishes to caution readers that certain important factors may have affected and could in the future affect its actual results and could cause actual results for subsequent periods to differ materially from those expressed in any forward-looking statement made by or on behalf of Cardinal Communications. There are many factors that will determine whether Cardinal Communications will be successful in its endeavors, including, without limitation, access to adequate capital and consumer acceptance of its telecommunications service offerings. Cardinal Communications undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date hereof.

SOURCE Cardinal Communications, Inc.

Craig Cook, Chief Administrative Officer of Cardinal Communications, Inc.,
+1-303-285-5348

http://www.prnewswire.com

Copyright (C) 2006 PR Newswire. All rights reserved.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
lost you must be out of your mind
 
Posted by MickeyP on :
 
Scottrade showing volume over 515 million. Is that correct?
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
volume at 521772.6k
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Anyone having trouble with power etrade pro today?
 
Posted by deleet on :
 
volume over 531 million now

its at .0012 again
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
The Dog says,

"JHPC: My source has just confirmed that the news will be out tomorrow. The deal is between $0.005 - $0.01 in my humble opinion. Good luck to all."
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
uh oh............get ready for the fireworks

DogCatcher17:
"JHPC: My source has just confirmed that the news will be out tomorrow. The deal is between $0.005 - $0.01 in my humble opinion. Good luck to all."
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
Sorry, I am still very new to this but who is dogcatcher17? Just curious, I hear that name alot for this stock.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Any opinions on wether or not it will be restricted? If there are restrictions what length of time?
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
whats up with all the 900k sells?!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
DC17 gets news and he is usually very accurate. if he says its happening tomorrow its about 90%. DC has not given any details on the deal
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
Anyone having trouble with power etrade pro today?


 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
i don't see why people would sell with this kind of deal on the horizon. It seems stupid to me.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Nothing but mirror trades between MM's... c'mon, every sell at .0011 is 900K shares. You're telling me every seller is selling $1000 share blocks? NO. It's MMs churning to keep the tick down.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Look, now it's 950K trades!!! Obviously, MM's read this board or some board.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
lol --- they are on to us [Big Grin] .... take'er easy... let's just see what happens! This will be an exciting week in my opinion!
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=JPHC&read=45985

If it's true, the stock will explode this afternoon
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
If they read the boards, then they know news is coming out tomorrow, which means they are probably trying to get all the shares they can.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Depends on your trading style I guess. Like I saw the Level 2 seem to shift towards the sell side and tried to sell at .0013 (at the bid) and believed I coul dget back in at .0011 or .0012. I was right, but I didn't react quick enough and didn't get my sell in at .0013. May seem silly, but each tick at that level is over 8%.

quote:
Originally posted by mustang21112:
i don't see why people would sell with this kind of deal on the horizon. It seems stupid to me.


 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Wonder if it's these guys

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=dt

They own t-mobile, and the prepaid mobile business has been doing well. Macro makes sense
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by joker669:
Sorry, I am still very new to this but who is dogcatcher17? Just curious, I hear that name alot for this stock.


 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Sorry guys wrong re post, this is the one I am curious about

quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
Any opinions on wether or not it will be restricted? If there are restrictions what length of time?


 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
damn, over 600,000,000 in the first 2 hrs. That's huge
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Details not released on the restricted stock possibility. It's possible.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
Sorry guys wrong re post, this is the one I am curious about

quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
Any opinions on wether or not it will be restricted? If there are restrictions what length of time?


We wont know until the deal goes through! Hopefully info about all that will be out this week! According to the dawg it'll be going down tomorrow! But for now it's all just assumption and rumour --- don't base anything on either! Wait, hold on and see for yourself!!!

In my opinion, one's taking a bigger risk in selling high and buying back in low then holding long --- a lot of potential here -- a lot more then just 8% gain around the corner IMHO!!!
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
If they do restrict it, say for a year, isn't it very possible that the new pps could drop and slide its way right back down and all we can do is watch...(not bashing I am in 4.5 mil.) Just never gone through a situation like this one.

quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
Sorry guys wrong re post, this is the one I am curious about

quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
Any opinions on wether or not it will be restricted? If there are restrictions what length of time?


We wont know until the deal goes through! Hopefully info about all that will be out this week! According to the dawg it'll be going down tomorrow! But for now it's all just assumption and rumour --- don't base anything on either! Wait, hold on and see for yourself!!!

In my opinion, one's taking a bigger risk in selling high and buying back in low then holding long --- a lot of potential here -- a lot more then just 8% gain around the corner IMHO!!!


 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Jumpem, I want you to step away from the computer and breathe very slowly. lol. Dont worry about the share structure until they come out and say "xyz". Its all speculation until they say this is the plan. Once that occurs there will be ample opportunity to buy or sell based on your due dilligence. Have a great day. TMAN...
 
Posted by INXS on :
 
In 0.0012

I'm with you folks.

inxs
 
Posted by bayvillian516 on :
 
yea i just got a half mill at .0012
i had this when it was at .0002 then sold at .0004 wish i knew
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
Jumpem, I want you to step away from the computer and breathe very slowly. lol. Dont worry about the share structure until they come out and say "xyz". Its all speculation until they say this is the plan. Once that occurs there will be ample opportunity to buy or sell based on your due dilligence. Have a great day. TMAN...

Couldn't have said it better!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
was that just me our did the volme just jump up by a 100 millon?
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Not just you, it did.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
was that just me our did the volme just jump up by a 100 millon?

Are you implying that you also jumped up by 100 million? What stock are you trading?? Let me in. [Smile]
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
yep, volume jumped quite a bit
 
Posted by yourdiligence on :
 
Money flow positive--and MMs are trying desperately to keep this one from blowing up. Hence mirror trades and trying to quell demand through whatever means at their disposal--like selling to each other etc. Today should be first of billion + volume days and it bodes well for longs as well as momentum traders.
 
Posted by yourdiligence on :
 
50 MA about to rip through 200 MA
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Wow, someone just dumped 10mil shares at .001.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Wow, someone just dumped 10mil shares at .001.

what an idiot [Big Grin] ---hold people hold!
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Wow, someone just dumped 10mil shares at .001.

IMO, the dirty basturds (mm's) willlet it go at the end of the day after they have shaken as much fruit off the tree that they think they can get at 1, 11, and 12. I do think we will close around 15, give or take.
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
there is a huge wall * 0.0012, at least 5 mms, i don't think this is going to move any time soon unless they want to allow that, news or no news.
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
I got my gold today ($300/day , 5 days / week )

I got in at .0011 and got out at .0013 as quick as possible.
Now I am waiting to get in at .0010
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
Bikerider, as far as I'm concerned, today doesn't really matter. I'm in and the only thing that matters is when news comes out. Once news comes out, if there's enough buying the MM's will not be able to control it. They will be short shares and will have to take the price up.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
passed 1 billion
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
mustang, i hope you right, this morning the price went up as there were only two mms they couldn't hold it there so they brought in some more.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Where'd that wall go? [Smile] only 2 left at 12

quote:
Originally posted by bikerider:
there is a huge wall * 0.0012, at least 5 mms, i don't think this is going to move any time soon unless they want to allow that, news or no news.


 
Posted by JARW on :
 
walls are ment to come down every now and then [Wink]
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
mhmh i am going to buy more of this baby i think,i hope the dog is right about tomorrows press release and if it is great this will pass 0;0020 easily...look for a 5M order at 12 in the next minutes
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Like all stocks that had gap up premarket, MM's walked it down on mirror trading to fill the gap. The 10mil sold at .0001 was the filling of the gap, so to speak. Since then, the MM's have stopped mirror trading and have let this stock trade on its own accord. As you can see, we have had NO sells in the last 1/2 hour, only buys. When the MM's leave, you truly see the interest in this stock.
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
repoman, how can you have no sales only buys?
 
Posted by The Doc on :
 
Ok, I'm in 3mil at .0012
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Bike, buyers are buying from MM's inventory now, not retail investors who are selling.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
wow, tons of buys at .0012. I'm actualyl suprised that 12 is still in play. I would have thought MMS would be coming off of 12 by now.
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
a forth mm joined to keep the price 0.0012
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
They must have gathered a lot of inventory during that morning dip.
 
Posted by The Doc on :
 
Don't you think when we move to .0012 x .0013 we will see a ton af sells form the folks that bought at .0011 on the dip earlier.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
A ton? I doubt it. Some from daytraders but a ton? Nope. The reason why we saw that dip this morning was because we gapped. When we gapped, MM's don't have a chance to pick up cheap shares, therefore, they drop the prices on mirror trades and pick up shares at the gap price. When they are done, they allow the market to determine the PPS (which in this case is bullish). They are unloading their inventory now. When they are done, if the buying pressure still exists, they'll raise the price high enough to create selling pressure, and then pick those shares up, mirro trade them, and build up their inventory.
 
Posted by The Doc on :
 
Any guess on price for this Friday?
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
do the shorts also have to cover with a merger? i hope this MM manipulation stops after the pr
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
They must cover with a merger yes.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
mhmh i think tomorrow will be the D day for jphc...what happens in practice when a buyout happens? no experience with that..
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
how come with ALL these buys that the MMs arent coming off the ask?!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
That's exactly what I was wondeing Opethian. Oh well, maybe a close just a few ticks above the open will be better for tomorrow. Who knowsn
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
ask size now 170,000 wtf?!!
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
0.0013, next
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Lost 1 at 13, gained 1 back at 12. Come on people, let it go. I want to see at least 14 by close. It will be tough to do, tahts a big 13 road block. HOLD HOLD HOLD, make 'em drive the price up. Don't fall for smoke and mirrors.
 
Posted by xray44b9 on :
 
In all my days of trading I have NEVER seen sitting on the ask like this in the face of monumental buying pressure. Just buying and buying and buying at the ask and they never move. This is without a doubt being held back to what end I dunno.
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
looks like they ccan hold this for as long as they want, like i said if they wont let go nomatter what news they come up with, wont make a diference
 
Posted by rimasco on :
 
does anybody know how many shares are in the float?..........thanx
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
whew, I sure do like what I'm seeing!!

Go JPHC!!!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Wow, currently 17 MMs on .0013. Now THAT is a wall [Smile]
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
Bring it on [Big Grin] --- let me give Pink Floyd a call --- they've had experiences with walls!
 
Posted by no_patience on :
 
How can all of these shares be sold on a borrow? Who would do such a thing?
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
don't fall for this MM shake!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
the big 13 [Big Grin]
 
Posted by no_patience on :
 
YEa, they can only borrow so much before its PAYBACK time !
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
20 mil at .0013.....????
 
Posted by no_patience on :
 
I suppose if they can keep today's close down this may be under the radar. Those dirty ba...
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
"They" have total control of this one right now, today was a perfect example of their games, I am actually suprised that they aren't letting run a little here at the end to try to pick up more shares.
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
MAYBE A LITTLE DIP SO i CAN BUY MORE
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Dip my azz... they dipped, but you can't buy at .0011.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
well all i can say is that this sucker will run by the time the next pr is out!!! "Sit tight!" See you all in the a.m. i need some sun! [Smile]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Somebody wanted 20mil shares at .0013 in the last 15 minutes pretty badly...
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
Did anyone get in on the CDNC I mentioned earlier? gapped up .1808 to .20 today!!!!
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
neverymind someone fat fingered
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
this will likely run up while expecting PR, since we are much closer now..
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Well if we wake up tomorrow and see this thing set to open at .003 plus then we know 5 things. 1. The mm's always get the info first. 2. The buyout is happening. 3. We are richer then we are today. 4. The folks that didnt get in today or sold today are gonna be pizzed off. 5. When the dawg speaks listen. TMAN...
 
Posted by th0th on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
Well if we wake up tomorrow and see this thing set to open at .003 plus then we know 5 things. 1. The mm's always get the info first. 2. The buyout is happening. 3. We are richer then we are today. 4. The folks that didnt get in today or sold today are gonna be pist off. 5. When the dawg speaks listen. TMAN...

Fixed.
 
Posted by DrWho on :
 
In answer to many of your questions... (this from one of 150 longs that own MORE than the float combined... 3 billion shares of a 2.5 billion float)

Why the wall? Becuase the news is due out tomorrow, this is the LAST time the shorts will have a chance to TRY to cover. The buying/selling ratio today was 87%, on 1.8 billion shares and it only ended up a tick. Some think that the MM's were acquiring alot of shares, but look at L2 throughout the day... a ton of 900k and 950k share trades were 'painted' which means MM's trading amongst one another, NOT selling.

Also, many in our group bought today, but their buys were painted as sells... there are a FEW MM's short in this and they know that their chances to try to shake the longs are nearly over... tomorrow and thereafter with a FINALITY PR, the game is over.

Take a look HARD at the number of shares traded since January... over 20 billion... and if just 150 out of 2000 shareholders own more than the float...

Where did those shares come from? We have good methodical sources that estimate there is a short of between 2-b billion shares, both with MM's and overseas, and their day is VERY due... very very due.

Becuause this is NOT going to be a merger in the sense of new company, new shares issued, but rather a BUYOUT of between .005 and .01, the MM's cant rely on buying shares from the 'new stock' to repay their shorts.

And imagine if the buyout is .01? No one will sell before then, AND this stock could climb infinately to cover those shorts... especially if JPHC comes out and says...

Due to our CREDIBLE valuation by Evans and Evans, we estimate there are XXXX amount of shorts on the market. The SEC would HAVE to come in and come in hard with a beater stick.

The Doctor
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
DR. thank you for your post, very informative
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
No matter how much I want to believe it, I can't see this going to .01 tomorrow or within a week's time, or even with a PR. That would be a gain of 1000% in 1 day. C'mon!

But I do agree with Dr. Who's analysis of what happened today in terms of trading. Mirror trading between MM's to drop the bid, induce sellers, and fill the gap.
 
Posted by no_patience on :
 
RIght, 1,245,184,908. That is a lot. I agree.

These must be loaner shares (borrowed as in borrowed time).

So the rule is they should be paid back/up. If you can not pay back, with another loan as it is so often done, real cash is the only way.

Like DrWho said - If JPHC offers me .01 for a share, I may not want to sell it to a MM for that. I could hold out for .02. "make em sweat"

What if we all held out.....

Good luck all - lets hope this news breaks so we can get on with it.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Interesting, I missed most of the intraday activity today, and was surprised not to see this end in the high teens. Thanks for the update.

repo, it's hard for me to believe, too. Sometimes I wonder if the MMs have a way to use one of those big PINK PEARL erasers in conjunction with a hail mary and voodoo chant to remove red stains on the books. But I have seen 1500 - 2000% gains in one day. WITHOUT ME ONBOARD!!! I looked at GLIF two or three days before it ran 1700+% from great news and short-covering.

I'm down for .01 (which may be low) and happy to have half that if it doesn't fly. GL all.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
the chart is excellent.....(getting ready to form a cross)
volume is excellent...... ( billion + shares traded today)
get ready to make some serious dough !!!!!

IMO
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
can you hear that? it's the money train!
 
Posted by Da12Beat on :
 
Hi Everyone, Im new to this Day Trading business... I opened an account with scottrade and have 60K shares on JPHC at .0011, is that a good buy? and if so where do you see this stock rising up to? I also would like to know what's MM's or dd or ihmo, or all the other abbrevations.. could anyone help?
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Da12Beat:
Hi Everyone, Im new to this Day Trading business... I opened an account with scottrade and have 60K shares on JPHC at .0011, is that a good buy? and if so where do you see this stock rising up to? I also would like to know what's MM's or dd or ihmo, or all the other abbrevations.. could anyone help?

This link will help with the lingo. http://www.allstocks.com/edu/html/internet_lingo.html
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
http://www.allstocks.com/edu/html/internet_lingo.html
 
Posted by Da12Beat on :
 
Alright, I can finally understand what's going on, by the way has anybody checked UNCN it's trading almost the same as JPHC and todays HOD was .0017 and it closed at .0013... anybody else thinks this is a play for tomorrow?
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
Let take a look of JPHC at Nasdaq :

http://www.nasdaq.com/services/riskMetrics.stm?&tickers=jphc
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
RiskGrades :

PLNI = 413
JPHC = 1368

Extremely Risky = 700 or over 700

I only bought 200K of shares JPHC today.
 
Posted by Linux2 on :
 
Thanks for the riskMetrics link stockforfun. It's alway fun to find new tools to manipulate our picks with.

I only picked up 100K shares today, just enough to feel comfortable with. I've got more funds, just want to see what happens in the next few days.

BTW...just for shirts and giggles ran RSHN and RVMO risk metrics: RSHN = 1498, RVMO = not available.

Interesting
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
Let take a look of JPHC at Nasdaq :

http://www.nasdaq.com/services/riskMetrics.stm?&tickers=jphc

------------------------------------------
ok
well NDOL is at 1486, RSHN at 1498...so along with JPHC there all bad ????

don't think so...that doesn't apply well to pennies and i wouldn't use it as a gauge !

IMO

**do your homework**

Ohio_Trader
 
Posted by GADOWPOW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Da12Beat:
Hi Everyone, Im new to this Day Trading business... I opened an account with scottrade and have 60K shares on JPHC at .0011, is that a good buy? and if so where do you see this stock rising up to? I also would like to know what's MM's or dd or ihmo, or all the other abbrevations.. could anyone help?

To answer your question, YES! For a beginner that’s exactly what you want to do, until you know all about the market and the risks associated with it. I mean take a relatively less risky venture for 60K at .0011 = 66.00. Not a bad investment if the stock hits .01, you have 6 hundo, NOT BAD.

You are taking the right road of investing small amounts to keep your risk down, but still getting the real feel that only trading real stock will give you. Paper trading is smart, but extremely boring in my book. The best advice I can give you is to; just take your time and STUDY. These people that are on this board are really smart and really cool when you have a question that you need answered. That is something that I can't say for all the boards. Have fun, welcome to the JPHC party, pick up your balls and lets start making some MONEY WITH JPHC!!!

[ April 25, 2006, 00:25: Message edited by: GADOWPOW ]
 
Posted by Fergy on :
 
I am in the group of investors that DrWho mentioned has more shares than the float combined! As a favour to yourself and all those that are long I recommend that you do what we are doing, placing your sell orders in the pennies as we want the MM's and shorts to pay a premium for the shares we own. The MM's have taken money from everyone of us, now its time to screw them over. Also, make sure you don't sell for less than the buyout price! If you try to flip there is a good chance you won't be able to get back in this stock while it runs up unless you want to pay more for the shares. The LONGS have to work together to make the shorts pay for what they have done to this stock. We collectively own 3 Billion shares with a float of 2.2 billion. And this is only 150 out of the 2100 shareholders of JPHC. Good luck tomorrow and lets have fun watching the shorts freak out.
 
Posted by yourdiligence on :
 
Fergy add another 660K to long side plz
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
In long with 6.4 million shares as well.
 
Posted by GADOWPOW on :
 
In long as well with 2.6 mil, lets make some MONEY!! I believe that if we follow the advice of Fergy and Dr. Who, we will all make ALOT of money!

Also, seeing the MM's cry would be a great icing on the cake. Maybe not cry but pay a huge premium for our shares would be a sweet retribution.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
OMG!!! They are so freaking short on this stock. We are going to be rich!!!
 
Posted by cali99boy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
Let take a look of JPHC at Nasdaq :

http://www.nasdaq.com/services/riskMetrics.stm?&tickers=jphc

i ran PAIM through that site and got over 4400 LOL [Big Grin]
 
Posted by HorseRider on :
 
Long with 1 million here. Hope you are all correct about the shorts
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
But becareful, sell some once it starts to run on because sometimes the SEC will halt the stock, I ahve seen many pinks been halted.

I am holding long but I am selling just enough once I get a triple to cover my initial costs
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Tonicma, I may be wrong, but typically pinks are halted when there is wind of basically "price tampering" or wrongdoing by the company, not just because a price runs up on news of a merger/buyout.

Am I missing something? I see NO reason to "protect" your investment if a legitimate buyout is PR'd as a done deal.

By the way, I'm long with 4.5 million if someone wants to add me to the list referred to earlier.
 
Posted by steef on :
 
go jphc go

I'm long with 51 MILLION

cheers
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
I'm in with 600K shares and wishing I had available funds!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I've got millions and holding for some fun today!!!

Don't worry if you only can get 100k or whatever it is you feel comfortable with. We all have to start somewhere.

Believe me I started small and having much more fun now!!

Get ready for takeoff!!!
Go JPHC!!!
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
I've got millions and holding for some fun today!!!

Don't worry if you only can get 100k or whatever it is you feel comfortable with. We all have to start somewhere.

Believe me I started small and having much more fun now!!

Get ready for takeoff!!!
Go JPHC!!!

Thanks Money. Good Luck today.
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
Good morning.

Any word from Dog Catcher yet? Hopefully today is a very profitable day for all of us.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
By the way, am I the only one here who's supersticious? I swear every time people start saying stuff like "The market makers are gonna lose big in this one" and "Flippers are gonna be sorry when they can't get back in!" it always seems to jinx the stock.

Anyone with me on this thought?
 
Posted by fsr63 on :
 
Does Dog Catcher hang out here??
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
Yes PCola77, I agree. The MM's hold all the cards, no matter what you think. I would advise keeping your expectations realistic.
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fsr63:
Does Dog Catcher hang out here??

He posts on another board. Someone usually posts his updates here. If there are any.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Chart

Look how the high of .0033 is forming a long term resistance line with those spikes to .0011 and .001 that were forming our ascending triangle

 -

Now that we've totally busted out of the triangle to the upside, we should continue going up.

And like Dallas has pointed out, there is going to be a 50/200 cross coming up in the next few days which is also another indicator of the strength of this rally. I put the 1st and 2nd targets on to the chart. Those should be resistance, but you never know.

The ultimate goal here is to get a buyout PR sometime today and make these charts totally irrelevant.

 -
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
I only have about 890K shares. Wish I had more funds!
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
JPHC - JUPITER GLOBAL HLDG (OTC)
Date Open High Low Last Change Volume % Change
04/24/06 0.0014 0.0014 0.0010 0.0012 +0.0001 1245184875 +9.09%


Composite Indicator
Trend Spotter TM Hold

Short Term Indicators
7 Day Average Directional Indicator Buy
10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Buy
20 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
20 Day Bollinger Bands Buy

Short Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
20-Day Average Volume - 262961188

Medium Term Indicators
40 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
50 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
50 Day Parabolic Time/Price Sell

Medium Term Indicators Average: 50% - Buy
50-Day Average Volume - 297944250

Long Term Indicators
60 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
100 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy

Long Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
100-Day Average Volume - 204876203

Overall Average: 80% - Buy



from barcharts...
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
DC17 says,

JPHC: Today is "D" Day!
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
Dog has barked:

By: dogcatcher17
25 Apr 2006, 09:18 AM EDT
Msg. 46564 of 46569
Jump to msg. #
JPHC: Today is "D" Day!
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
16 MM's asking at .0013 premarket with a few buys at 12. Damn what a wall.
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
Just Posted from Dogcatcher

By: dogcatcher17
25 Apr 2006, 09:18 AM EDT
Msg. 46564 of 46564
Jump to msg. #
JPHC: Today is "D" Day!
 
Posted by no_patience on :
 
Here we go boys and girls.

If we see a ton of volume at low prices beware that they are likely those borrowed shares!

Will we see the MM's buy and sell to each other?

They are all not on the same team and will try 2 scre w each other.

What will we learn here?

Good luck all !
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
GLTA - let's make some money
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
Wall t .0013 is getting bigger...we need the PR to break it.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Good morning guy's. I see some new faces on this thread, welcome. We started green, now lets get this train going and make some cash. GLTA.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
My educated guess is that the wall is there to shake people out that would look at that and say, "well, I may as well sell at .0012, 'cause it's not getting through .0013 anytime soon."

Hopefully not many people do it. If the PR really does come out today and the news is good, that wall will be obliterated.

quote:
Originally posted by jdg257:
Wall t .0013 is getting bigger...we need the PR to break it.


 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
sell your stock jphc and buy some PLNI now ! Hurry up !
 
Posted by ChicagoPete on :
 
Hello to all - Been in USXP for awhile and getting tired of waiting for RA and all his hot air -- JPHC looks like it's ready to explode. All aboard!!!! I'm in.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
what the f stockforfun?
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
just out of curiousity where are you from. English is not your first language, is it?

quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
sell your stock jphc and buy some PLNI now ! Hurry up !


 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
My educated guess is that the wall is there to shake people out that would look at that and say, "well, I may as well sell at .0012, 'cause it's not getting through .0013 anytime soon."

Hopefully not many people do it. If the PR really does come out today and the news is good, that wall will be obliterated.

quote:
Originally posted by jdg257:
Wall t .0013 is getting bigger...we need the PR to break it.


I agree, this stock is controlled by the mm's the only thing that could break it lose from its chains is a PR --- as we've seen before --- no matter how much moneys traded, how many buys there are --- $$$ just can't move it --- it's all about the PR --- so bring it on!
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
sell your stock jphc and buy some PLNI now ! Hurry up !

What the F is wrong with you. Hace you been paying any attention to whats been going on here.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
PLNI??? The Green Baron pump and dump?

Mirror trades today on JPHC between .0011 and .0012... mm's trying to induce sellers.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
Most of there past PR's have came out after noon. They are usually around 1 or so. The big PR about the valuation was realeased after the bell at 4:05. I would like to see one at around 1 or so so we can run hard EOD, then gap huge.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
He's repeatedly said that this "gold" is to make $300 a day. He obviously bought PLNI, wants to pump it up whatever % he needs to get his $300 and he'll be a happy guy.

However, pretty much anyone in JPHC is holding out for bigger things than PLNI has in store for today, so I think he's barking in the wrong thread.


quote:
Originally posted by mustang21112:
what the f stockforfun?


 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
haha, his gold is to make $300 a day. lol
 
Posted by BallBallmon on :
 
if the pr is out today , will it able to break to 0.002 ?
GO JPHC !!!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
all depends on the PR --- patience --- no one can tell what's going to happen without assumption!!! So just wait and we'll all see!!!
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
i think if it comes out between 1-2 it will run and gap over .002 the next day. IMO
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
I knew jphc will not run today, that is why I
bought only 200k yesterday in case jphc run,
and I save all my money for PLNI.

Last week I bought jphc at .0011 then I must sell at .0007.

Today I make more than 4 gold ! Ha Ha Ha !!!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
if u goto yahoo and look at that time of their PR its usually between 10am-12, i think about 50% are released then. prolly when the CEO wakes up.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
I knew jphc will not run today, that is why I
bought only 200k yesterday in case jphc run,
and I save all my money for PLNI.

Last week I bought jphc at .0011 then I must sell at .0007.

Today I make more than 4 gold ! Ha Ha Ha !!!

Looks like someone got your gold last week then [Big Grin] !
 
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[Razz]
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
JPHC is going down .0011.

I am going to sell my shares to buy PLNI.

300/day
5day/week
$1500/week
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Bye. And you're an idiot too. All buys at .0012 today. You get 1 star rating.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
sell your stock jphc and buy some PLNI now ! Hurry up !

guys, he's just feeling the excitement.

stockforfun, JPHC is not the one you want to sell! Hope you stay here and make bank. Then you will have something to invest - PLNI or elsewhere. Jumping in and out is bad for your profits.

I was planning to sell some of my BLDP, but Citigroup downgraded from a hold to sell in premarket. Saying multiple cuss words to Citigroup.

MMs = wannabe WS Analysts.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
why would you sell? LOL
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Bye. And you're an idiot too. All buys at .0012 today. You get 1 star rating.

lmao ---- one star from me for golden-boy too!!! lol
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
stockforfun,

please sell and get lost.. we don't want to hear about plni.. today is going to be exciting for jphc.
 
Posted by jazzy1 on :
 
IS THIS THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM BOYS AND GIRLS?
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
http:// *********.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=65

Pick alert!
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
It does not matter how many star you have, It does matter how much you make $$ on penny stock !

I can gave you 10 star if you want.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
a lot of bidders dropping back to .001. I actually wouldn't mind seeing it fall a tick or two so I can get more before the announcement. I'm watching L2 carefully though, because if it shifts and the .0012s start to fall, I'm biting the bullet and buying a bunch more at .0012.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
http:// penny boom .com
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Me keep JPHC, JPHC good. Make much money. Need to hold for gold. No scare Jim away, strong resolve. Shake you basturds shake.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I think you'll have a hard time buying at .001.
 
Posted by jazzy1 on :
 
WHat time do you think we'll get the news?
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I agree. There are only 2 MMs at .0011, so I know I can get that. Debating heavily now wether to double down at .0011 or take the risk and try to get it at .001.

Edit: there are now 3 MMs at .0011, so I'm gonna wait and see. If it shifts the other way and I see only 2 or 1 at .0011 I'm putting through my order.

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I think you'll have a hard time buying at .001.


 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
.001...last chance boys!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
people are Fing retarded and they need to stop selling to the MMs now everyone is in a panic if they dont know the 2 month history behind JPHC
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
By the way, the best piece of advice you can get is to play with the MMs not try to fight them. When I read that long ago I didn't really get it. But now I'm starting to understand.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Right. Learn to love the MM's....
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Well, "love" is a bit strong [Smile] I just said trade with them, not against them

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Right. Learn to love the MM's....


 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
ya gotta be honest, this is my first real penny stock that ive seriously traded and i think i learned more from this epic battle between MM and buyers than in any other stock ever.
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
If ya got the money, buy up more shares.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
i really wish i had more money
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Just put in an order for 5.5mil at .001 which woul dput me at an even 10mil. If it gets filled, then great, if it doesn't I'm still watching L2 and will change it to .0011 if MMs start to fall off .0011
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Let us know. I think you have no chance at .001. MM's are buying those shares at that price.
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
I could't buy at .001. Bought 200K shares at .0011.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
hmm, MMs dropping off .001 now. 8x8 bid and ask. I actually may get filled. I'd be freakin' thrilled.
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
PC where are you watching L2 at btw?
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=jphc

I just got filled at .001 for all 5.5mil.

Now I'm wondering if I should have waited til .009 with only 1 MM left at 10.

Edit, none left at 10...

This PR better be good [Smile]
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
Ahh k thx.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
this stock is really crazy lol never seen so much manipulation going on but i am curious what happens with a pr
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
And honestly, I am thrilled getting that much more at .001. If it gets to the point that I could get it at .0009, I'll be worried. I thikn I just got a steal getting that many more at .001
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
.0009

Believe in your sell, don't listen anyone, you will make money.
 
Posted by Da12Beat on :
 
I've been trying to buy more shares of JPHC, but it keeps telling me I dont have enought settle funds.... what does that mean guys, this my 3rd day as a day trader
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
You have to wait 3 days for funds to settle, it means you are too actively trading.
 
Posted by DZWulf on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Da12Beat:
I've been trying to buy more shares of JPHC, but it keeps telling me I dont have enought settle funds.... what does that mean guys, this my 3rd day as a day trader

Lower the amt of shares you are trying to buy.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
haha Da12beat. first off goodluck. secondly if u sell a position those funds become "unsettled" and you have to wait 3 days before those funds become settled again. its an SEC rule so get used to it. U can purchase with unsettled funds u just cant sell that position until the 3 days has been reached. dont recommend it in penny land. goodluck!
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
Hey JARW !

I think you are IDIOT but I am not. JPHC is now .0009
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
now it's .009, lol
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
maybe a sign of things to come
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
I think you are IDIOT but I am not. JPHC is now .0009

So when you say you are a short term trader, you mean in terms of a few minutes.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
MM's really trying to put the shake on us boys and girls....Maybe they didn't get the memo...We are holding this!!!
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
yes I am.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
The only thing you am..is an idiot, at no point in your incoherint babbling did you make any sense whatsoever...We are all dummer for having read any of your posts. May God have mercy on your soul!

quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
yes I am.


 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
***DUMBER Sorry for the spelling error.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
is it possible jphc is printing shares now?
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
lol
 
Posted by deleet on :
 
anyone foolish enough to sell now needs their head checked. Its just a shake folks. Remember, theres a PR today? Price is gunna be 0.005 - 0.01. Been waiting 2 months for this, i dont think i'll have trouble waiting one more day.

I'm sitting on 5 and a half million shares.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
It just occurred to me that each uptick or downtick is $1000 for me. Not sure that I'm comfortable being this heavily into one penny stock...

Oh well, would be dumb to sell any now, wish me the best!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Look at FLST... as the deal nears completion, these pinks move up and fast.
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
BTW if we don't get the news today do not be worried. All information points to it coming soon (whether it is today, tomorrow or next week is irrelevant), and when it does come the MMs will be farked. Don't get scared by MM games or a lack of news, keep holding and buying up shares when they get cheap.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
What's the best (i.e. most quickly updated) site for news? Like what site should I be sitting at constantly hitting refresh? [Wink]
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=JPHC.PK

Yahoo finance has worked for me news wise. They usually get stuff out within a few minutes of it being released. There is probably something faster though.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
driving the pps down is a good gauge, raising my ask every time they pull it down. Fewer shares at the top.
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
I don't even deserve a one star rating (I barely post here)? Who voted for me lol?
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TickTrader:
driving the pps down is a good gauge, raising my ask every time they pull it down. Fewer shares at the top.

Totally agree.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
hey guys, i went back to bed --- it's only 9 a.m. over here right now anyways.... too tired.... was just wondering how low the buyers on allstocks today were able to fill?!?!?! Anyone at .001? Saw it bounced a few times at .0009 --- but my order didn;'t go through!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I got 5.5 million at .001. No one here's reported getting filled at .0009
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
a lot of buys going through in the past 5 mins --- news might be out soon!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
I got 5.5 million at .001. No one here's reported getting filled at .0009

So how big is your catch at the moment? If you don't mind me asking --- i'm in it with 11.2 mil now! Not going to buy anymore unless it drops below .001 and i'm hoping it wont ever again [Big Grin] !!!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
yeah it's ready to start moving. There were 8 MMs on 11 just 2 minutes ago and now thre are only 4
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I guess you didn;t feel like reading the posts from while you were sleeping? [Wink]

Got 2.25million at .0009 last week.
2.25million more at .0012 yesterday,
a 5.5 to fill an even 10million at .001 this morning.

I think I got a bit too excited though, as I said in a post a little bit ago, I'm not sure I'm comfortable with so much in one penny stock, but I'm sure as hell not selling anytime soon, so I hope the PR is big, whenever it comes.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Down to 3 MMs on .0011. And by the way, I just have a feeling about this one. Haven't had the feeling since I bought IDWD at .17. Sold it at .51 for a nice triple. I've got the same feeling today about JPHC. Hopefully it produces a similar result.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
back to 12... 10 MMs on the ask, let's see how fast they start to fall
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
Down to 3 MMs on .0011. And by the way, I just have a feeling about this one. Haven't had the feeling since I bought IDWD at .17. Sold it at .51 for a nice triple. I've got the same feeling today about JPHC. Hopefully it produces a similar result.

Hope you are right!
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
News the past two times has come out 5-10 minutes after 1pm EST.

That time is soon approaching...

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Provides Update Regarding Current Corporate Plans
Apr 21 2006 1:09PM ET
Jupiter Global Holdings Corp files Form 15-12G, Termination of Registration of a Class of Security
Apr 21 2006 1:06PM ET
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
fair number of buys going through at .0012
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
yeah, 6 MMs gons from 12. only 4 left
 
Posted by Da12Beat on :
 
hey guys wat are MMs and how do you guys keep a track on how many there are and how many are left?... JPHC... "Show Me The Money!!!"
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Da12Beat:
hey guys wat are MMs and how do you guys keep a track on how many there are and how many are left?... JPHC... "Show Me The Money!!!"

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=jphc

"Firms that publish bid and/or ask price(s) for a given security by using their own capital, research, retail and/or systems resources . Market Makers compete with each other for orders to buy or sell at publicly quoted prices (called making a market)."
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=jphc

MMs are market makers. They're the ones that essentially trade the stocks. right now there are 4 of them that are willing ot sell at .0012 and 6 that are willing to buy at .0011. As people buy at .0012 there are less MMs wiling to sell at .0012, and eventually when there are none left you have to bid higher than .0012 to get some one to sell to you. Same is true the other way, as people sell at .0011 there are less MMs willing ot pay that much.

Make sense?
 
Posted by Da12Beat on :
 
Yeah Makes sense, Thanks... Screw Them MMs
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=jphc

MMs are market makers. They're the ones that essentially trade the stocks. right now there are 4 of them that are willing ot sell at .0012 and 6 that are willing to buy at .0011. As people buy at .0012 there are less MMs wiling to sell at .0012, and eventually when there are none left you have to bid higher than .0012 to get some one to sell to you. Same is true the other way, as people sell at .0011 there are less MMs willing ot pay that much.

Make sense?

Good explanation. BTW thx again for the site, the one I was using to monitor MMs before sarked.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
that one only has symbols for companies that paid to have them available for free. Most OTCBB and pink sheet stocks you'd have to pay for.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
well, very little trading --- looks like something might be around the corner!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Yeah, but you're an idiot according to stockforfun, so why should we believe you? [Wink]

I hope this stock reaches my gold of .002 [Big Grin]

quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
well, very little trading --- looks like something might be around the corner!


 
Posted by JARW on :
 
haha, well he's the miner! [Wink]
 
Posted by no_patience on :
 
Hey there Mr. Or Mrs. MM.

We are getting boared out here befor the news.

What say you move this to .0013 for just a little while. Move it back down to .0012 whenever you are ready. Thanks, we just want to watch.....
 
Posted by ChicagoPete on :
 
How can this stock be trading over 700 million shares and it's not moving a fraction of a cent...?
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
If you check out the past few pages on the thread you'll find the answers to your questions!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
4 mm's left at 12!!! Slowly moving!!!
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
got out at .0012 small shares,
got in at .0010 3M
make my 2 gold on JPHC and 4 gold on PLNI and wait for JPHC to take off. Smart ?
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
I'm sorry? What is gold?
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
my gold is $300/day , 5 day/ week
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
GOAL, GOALGOALGOAL, cripes english folks.
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
Your goal is $300/day x 5 days/week = 1500.00 weekly x 4 weeks = 6000.00/mo

Good goal. Take out 25% here in America for Capital Gains and you should be able to do this as a full time gig. [Smile]
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
now that stockforfun has his gold we might as well let the MM's know he's out so they can increase the BxA [Big Grin]
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
3 mm's left at 12
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I still show 4 on pnksheets.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
back to 4 mm's [Big Grin] meh
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
more and more mm's building a little wall at 12 again shiba!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I still show 4 on pnksheets.

For 30 secs there were only 3!!! As you can see i posted at 13:57 and a new MM signed in with 10000 shares at 13:57 as well!!!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Looks like we're going the wrong way... bid going to drop to .001 soon
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Wow MM's trying to tick this one down again...
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
If I didn't have all of my money already tied up I'd be buying more if it does tick down again.

I wonder if people are starting to get scared that there will be no PR today and are selling.

Not sure if an after hours PR would be better or worse.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
A lot of games right now, MM's playing with us!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
Just sitting back, relaxing and waiting
 
Posted by GADOWPOW on :
 
Did anyone notice that when the DOG barks, he says that today is "D" day. Why do you think that "D" is in quotes?
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
WOW! All the asks just switched to .0012!

ETRD 0.0012 20000 14:54
SBSH 0.0012 5000 12:14
TDCM 0.0012 5000 14:08
FRAN 0.0012 5000 14:10
HILL 0.0012 5000 14:17
SSGI 0.0012 5000 14:17
TASL 0.0012 5000 14:20
UBSS 0.0012 5000 14:38
NITE 0.0012 5000 14:54
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Like watching the tide roll in and back out.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
Why does it matter if it's in quotes or not?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I think the D means DECEPTION.

He has no idea... and if he did, why would he post it here and risk insider trading violations?

C'mon. The guy is full of it.
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
I don't think the news is going to be today. If it is they are waiting until after the bell. If they do though will make for an interesting opening tomorrow!!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
If it comes out after the bell then the mm's will have a panic day and wont sleep well tonight on their money stuffed pillows! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by GADOWPOW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mustang21112:
Why does it matter if it's in quotes or not?

Do you know what quotes mean? It means that it is short for something. Its just not a reference to WWII.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Not sure how long you've been in this one, but I know I've seen at least 2 occassions where he's said "PR tomorrow" or "PR in the next half hour" and he's been correct. That's not just dumb luck, IMO.

Sure, he could be wrong, or he could be lying, but I believe if he posted it he really believed it, whether it actually happens or not remains to be seen.

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I think the D means DECEPTION.

He has no idea... and if he did, why would he post it here and risk insider trading violations?

C'mon. The guy is full of it.


 
Posted by GADOWPOW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I think the D means DECEPTION.

He has no idea... and if he did, why would he post it here and risk insider trading violations?

C'mon. The guy is full of it.

I dont know hes been right on about news in the past. There are a lot of believers backing the DOG. I have personally seen him predict news in the past. I am not saying he is 100%, but even if he does it 1 time out of 10, thats pretty amazing.
 
Posted by xray44b9 on :
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Day

In English military parlance, D-Day is a term often used to denote the day on which a combat attack or operation is to be initiated. Whilst the initial D in D-day stands for the word day it often represents a variable, designating the day upon which some significant event will or has occurred; see Military designation of days and hours for similar terms.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Starting to fly now!
 
Posted by redneck woman on :
 
OCEANSIDE, NY -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 04/25/06 -- APO Health, Inc. ("APO") (OTC BB: APOA) and
JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER") (OTC: JPHC) today jointly
announced their execution of a Definitive Agreement and Plan of Merger (the
"Merger Agreement") pursuant to which APO has agreed, through a wholly
owned subsidiary, to acquire 100% of the issued and outstanding common
shares of JUPITER, and JUPITER has agreed, at the closing of the
transaction, to become a wholly owned subsidiary of APO. As consideration
in the merger transaction, APO has agreed to exchange shares of its common
stock ("the Issuable Shares") with JUPITER's shareholders at an exchange
ratio, which is subject to adjustment under the Merger Agreement that
values the JUPITER shares at $0.005 per common share.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by xray44b9:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Day

In English military parlance, D-Day is a term often used to denote the day on which a combat attack or operation is to be initiated. Whilst the initial D in D-day stands for the word day it often represents a variable, designating the day upon which some significant event will or has occurred; see Military designation of days and hours for similar terms.

Thanks for that tad of info. Professor Xray [Razz]
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
.005!!!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
LET THE RIDE BEGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE ARE GOING UP!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Holy sheet! Does this mean we'll see .004?? I'm crapping my pants!
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
BUYOUT Confirmed.

.005

Hold on kids.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Need DD on APOA asap!
 
Posted by Homerunner on :
 
APO Health, Inc. and JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Announce Signing of Definitive Agreement and Plan of Merger

OCEANSIDE, NY, Apr 25, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- APO Health, Inc. ("APO") (OTC BB: APOA) and JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER") (OTC: JPHC) today jointly announced their execution of a Definitive Agreement and Plan of Merger (the "Merger Agreement") pursuant to which APO has agreed, through a wholly owned subsidiary, to acquire 100% of the issued and outstanding common shares of JUPITER, and JUPITER has agreed, at the closing of the transaction, to become a wholly owned subsidiary of APO. As consideration in the merger transaction, APO has agreed to exchange shares of its common stock ("the Issuable Shares") with JUPITER's shareholders at an exchange ratio, which is subject to adjustment under the Merger Agreement that values the JUPITER shares at $0.005 per common share.
Jan Stahl, the Chief Executive Officer of APO, commented, "APO is making a shift in its business future and JUPITER, and primarily its subsidiary, Macro Communications, Inc. (www.macrosouth.com), presented the best opportunity for us to build a significant operation under a new direction for our shareholders. Our aim was to chart a new course for APO that would result in accelerated growth and increased shareholder value. The challenges we have experienced in growing our health subsidiary prompted the development of our plan for change that included a process of looking for opportunities outside of the health industry and ultimately develop a business with holdings that could provide for significant value creation. Macro Communications, Inc. is a business that we believe has vast potential. It is currently a multimillion dollar operation that has a business plan which includes other acquisition candidates and a comprehensive strategy for growth and profit generation. We look forward to welcoming the JUPITER shareholders as APO shareholders and feel very strongly on the new combined entities moving forward."

Ray Hawkins, the Chief Executive Officer of JUPITER, commented further, "The execution of this agreement results from a diligently prepared and successfully executed plan that we had implemented to move JUPITER forward for the future growth of the company, and ultimately for the enhancement of value for the JUPITER shareholders. APO is a solid company which currently is a multimillion dollar operation, and we feel this merger provides a great opportunity for our shareholders' growth prospects. We are very pleased with the valuation that we received from APO and feel it is fair for our shareholders. We look forward to the consummation of this transaction and setting things in motion to develop a new path of success for the combined corporations."

The parties have agreed to use their best efforts to consummate the transaction by May 10, 2006, or as soon as practicable thereafter.

The Merger Agreement will be filed by APO as an exhibit to a Current Report on Form 8-K with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission as required. The Merger Agreement contains certain conditions precedent to consummation of the merger, including but not limited to, obtaining consents, providing certified lists of shareholders and delivery of certain due diligence and other corporate documents. The Merger Agreement provides that the Issuable Shares will not be registered under the Securities Act, or the securities laws of any state, and absent an exemption from registration contained in such laws, cannot be transferred, hypothecated, sold or otherwise disposed of until; (i) a registration statement with respect to such securities is declared effective under the Securities Act, or (ii) APO receives an opinion of counsel for APO that an exemption from the registration requirements of the Securities Act is available.

ABOUT APO HEALTH, INC.

APO Health, Inc., a Nevada corporation, through its subsidiary distributes medical, dental and health and beauty aids products to dental and medical professionals and wholesalers throughout the United States.

ABOUT JUPITER GLOBAL HOLDINGS, CORP.

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp., a Nevada corporation, is a holding company with interests and developments in a diverse number of growing industries. JUPITER plans to achieve a leadership position through the building of a synergistic network of innovative, profitable and global businesses.
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
this is awesome HOLY SH*t
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
beat me to it lol TMAN...
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

What's this all mean?
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
I didn't see anything about restrictions,did you Tman?
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
DAMNIT I wish I got more lol
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
I can and you can still buy shares, i got some 550k at .0014
TMAN...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
No restricted stock! ALL CASH! We're rich!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
where are all the bashers now?
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
NOPE JUMP. just a share exchange. WOOHOO. I am so happy I could almost ****e my pants. THE DOG is the man... TMAN...
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

YEAH BABY!!!!!
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
So does this mean that APO will PAY ME .005 for my shares? I'm not quite sure what all this means.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
WHY ISNT THIS GOING THROUGH THE F'IN ROOF. TMAN...
 
Posted by EverGreen on :
 
great news

even if it's not going exactly to .005
probably will go at least above .003
(it's a double!!!)

chart was really good BEFORE the news
it will be better tomorrow!
 
Posted by GADOWPOW on :
 
The whole point was to ask why do you think he put it in quotes on purpose more than once. Most people including yourself didnt put the word in quotes. It was just an observation that I was wondering about. Hopefully "D" didnt mean dilution.


quote:
Originally posted by xray44b9:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Day

In English military parlance, D-Day is a term often used to denote the day on which a combat attack or operation is to be initiated. Whilst the initial D in D-day stands for the word day it often represents a variable, designating the day upon which some significant event will or has occurred; see Military designation of days and hours for similar terms.


 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
What is holding this back i don't get it?
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
Glad I am not the only one confused!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
Where is the stocksforfun gold digger now [Big Grin] whoohoo!!! X-mas is coming early this year!!!
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
I don't know what to say but feel the need to post UNREAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Eek!] [Razz] [Big Grin] [Cool] [Smile]
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
Come down wall, come down!!!
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
do the shorts have to cover?
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
My only guess is people that bought at .0009-.0012 may still have good-til-cancelled sell orders in and don't know about the news.

not sure though
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Why the slow down?
 
Posted by TajUdDin on :
 
So does this mean that APO will PAY ME .005 for my shares? I'm not quite sure what all this means
can someone please explain me.

what if the price is not .005 by the end of today?
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
we at .0014 and looking good
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Fing down tick??????????????
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
Question...If APO is going to pay .005 for each share of JPHC, then wouldn't everyone holding be guaranteed a share price of .005 if the merger goes through?

Can someone explain this to me?

Thanks.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Hale mary full of grace, let this gift to us be blessed. Amen [Smile]
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
its a stock trade. We get .005 worth of their shares for every one of ours. Which is same as money once you sell lol. Am I correct on that?
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
why is it dropping?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Stocksforfun.. what a douche.

Sell at .0049.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
It HAS to be profit takers that don't know about the news, doesn't it? WTF other explanation could there be?
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
they are giving us a credit of .005 per share we own of JPHC and giving it to us in their new stock...I think!
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Let me reread the damn pr. This is the most crazy thing i have ever seen. Hell, even FLST doubled when the news of the buyout came out. TMAN...
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
its a stock trade. We get .005 worth of their shares for every one of ours. Which is same as money once you sell lol. Am I correct on that?

I don't get it.
 
Posted by no_patience on :
 
Golly,

I just sold one of my slow movers to pick up more at .0012.

Anyone want to loan me a few bucks..... for which I will gladly pay you pack ...Thursday

Something is wrong though, if you were short would you be covering? What is going on?
 
Posted by MB on :
 
1st- noone pays you .005 it is just that the share exchange deal was worked out assuming JPHC was worth .005.

2nd- it will not be at .005 by the end of the day.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
We are getting shares of APOA.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Stocksforfun.. what a douche.

Sell at .0049.

lol haha amen!
 
Posted by narbeh on :
 
what the hell is goin on in this thread? is it too late to buy in? cause it seems like its frozen at 0.0012
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
ok I have about 5,000 dollars worth of shares if they were valued at .005, so the new compnay is giving me 5,000 dollars worth of their shares instead of money. Am I correct
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
You will get shares of APOA.ob at an exchange ratio of .005. So basically you will get one share of apoa for 2 shares of jphc. they are trading a little above a penny. TMAN...
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
MB, so wouldn't it mean that if I held 1,000,000 shares of JPHC, then I would retain 500,000 of APO??

Confused here
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
I jumped in big at .0014 and am down big already.
Sell the news must be going on here.
If it's going to be bought out at .005, it should be moving up towards that price.

I missed the train on NDOL, they are being bought out too. I Bought at .20 and sold at .30, now it's at .60.
I won't make that mistake again.
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
The way it looks to me is that for every 2 of your shares you get one of theirs which are valued at .01. From there you should be able to sell theirs for their going rate.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
who is an expert in this matter and can explain this what will happen and when???
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
What the F is going on???????
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
ok I have about 5,000 dollars worth of shares if they were valued at .005, so the new compnay is giving me 5,000 dollars worth of their shares instead of money. Am I correct

I'm pretty sure thats right. The only problem is APOA's stock might tank when everyone from JPHC gets all the shares, and you might not be able to sell for much higher then where we are at now. Not sure though.
 
Posted by MB on :
 
agreed joker.
 
Posted by narbeh on :
 
IS IT TOO LATE TO BUY IN TO STILL BENEFIT FROM THIS CRAP THAT IS GOING ON?
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Start buying APOA at .014 before the run up. High of the year was .06. This has to be big news for this stock.
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Does anyone have any background knowledge of this APO company?
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
this thing keeps downticking. Just sold out of all my other positions. If this hits .001 again I'm going all-in. F it.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
Start buying APOA at .014 before the run up. High of the year was .06. This has to be big news for this stock.

Not much volume though, that is kind of suspect.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
I posted this in a new thread under HUGE ALERT, so other people who don't come in here can read the news.
 
Posted by no_patience on :
 
Check APOA stock,

Volume today was 333 last at 0.014
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
here is some info on them.

APO Health, Inc., through its subsidiaries, operates as a distributor and supplier of disposable medical, dental, and veterinary supplies; health and beauty aids; and pharmaceuticals. These products primarily include medical and dental disposable items, such as syringes, gauze, gowns, facemasks, and instruments. The company sells its products directly, as well as through mail order and independent sales representatives to the professionals and wholesalers in the dental and medical markets in the United States. APO Health was founded in 1997 and is based in Oceanside, New York.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
wow I got 250k more shares haha
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
No, incorrect.

If you have 1 mil. shares of JPHC, I think you'll receive about 140,000 shares of APOA.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
OK, now I have taken a breath and am calm. lol. The share price should go up because the company's value has been pr'ed at .005. Will it get to .005, I dont know. As news settles in we should see some additional buying and the price if allowed to rise by the MM's will do so. I hope. TMAN...
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
at their current price we will receive nearly 5 shares for each of ours I think, that all changes though as the price goes up and down blah blah
 
Posted by etothes on :
 
"at an exchange ratio, which is subject to adjustment under the Merger Agreement that values the JUPITER shares at $0.005 per common share."

Meaning that the ratio could go UP or DOWN. Be careful on this one. I'm long, but keeping an eye on it though.
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
This is looking like TWOG and the ILGY acquistion. You got shares for ILGY and they are only trading in a few thousand shares. TWOG is now going no where. Watch yourself on this one. The shorts are doing something or something isn't right. This thing should be flying on this news.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
WTF is going on, do we need to see the 8-k for this is run???

How can it be downticking???
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
downticking hard now!
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jdg257:
WTF is going on, do we need to see the 8-k for this is run???

How can it be downticking???

APO Health, Inc. and JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Announce Signing of Definitive Agreement and Plan of Merger
via COMTEX

April 25, 2006

OCEANSIDE, NY, Apr 25, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX News Network) --

APO Health, Inc. ("APO") (OTC BB: APOA) and JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER") (OTC: JPHC) today jointly announced their execution of a Definitive Agreement and Plan of Merger (the "Merger Agreement") pursuant to which APO has agreed, through a wholly owned subsidiary, to acquire 100% of the issued and outstanding common shares of JUPITER, and JUPITER has agreed, at the closing of the transaction, to become a wholly owned subsidiary of APO. As consideration in the merger transaction, APO has agreed to exchange shares of its common stock ("the Issuable Shares") with JUPITER's shareholders at an exchange ratio, which is subject to adjustment under the Merger Agreement that values the JUPITER shares at $0.005 per common share.

Jan Stahl, the Chief Executive Officer of APO, commented, "APO is making a shift in its business future and JUPITER, and primarily its subsidiary, Macro Communications, Inc. (www.macrosouth.com), presented the best opportunity for us to build a significant operation under a new direction for our shareholders. Our aim was to chart a new course for APO that would result in accelerated growth and increased shareholder value. The challenges we have experienced in growing our health subsidiary prompted the development of our plan for change that included a process of looking for opportunities outside of the health industry and ultimately develop a business with holdings that could provide for significant value creation. Macro Communications, Inc. is a business that we believe has vast potential. It is currently a multimillion dollar operation that has a business plan which includes other acquisition candidates and a comprehensive strategy for growth and profit generation. We look forward to welcoming the JUPITER shareholders as APO shareholders and feel very strongly on the new combined entities moving forward."

Ray Hawkins, the Chief Executive Officer of JUPITER, commented further, "The execution of this agreement results from a diligently prepared and successfully executed plan that we had implemented to move JUPITER forward for the future growth of the company, and ultimately for the enhancement of value for the JUPITER shareholders. APO is a solid company which currently is a multimillion dollar operation, and we feel this merger provides a great opportunity for our shareholders' growth prospects. We are very pleased with the valuation that we received from APO and feel it is fair for our shareholders. We look forward to the consummation of this transaction and setting things in motion to develop a new path of success for the combined corporations."

The parties have agreed to use their best efforts to consummate the transaction by May 10, 2006, or as soon as practicable thereafter.

The Merger Agreement will be filed by APO as an exhibit to a Current Report on Form 8-K with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission as required. The Merger Agreement contains certain conditions precedent to consummation of the merger, including but not limited to, obtaining consents, providing certified lists of shareholders and delivery of certain due diligence and other corporate documents. The Merger Agreement provides that the Issuable Shares will not be registered under the Securities Act, or the securities laws of any state, and absent an exemption from registration contained in such laws, cannot be transferred, hypothecated, sold or otherwise disposed of until; (i) a registration statement with respect to such securities is declared effective under the Securities Act, or (ii) APO receives an opinion of counsel for APO that an exemption from the registration requirements of the Securities Act is available.

ABOUT APO HEALTH, INC.

APO Health, Inc., a Nevada corporation, through its subsidiary distributes medical, dental and health and beauty aids products to dental and medical professionals and wholesalers throughout the United States.

ABOUT JUPITER GLOBAL HOLDINGS, CORP.

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp., a Nevada corporation, is a holding company with interests and developments in a diverse number of growing industries. JUPITER plans to achieve a leadership position through the building of a synergistic network of innovative, profitable and global businesses.

CAUTIONARY STATEMENT REGARDING FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS

The Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 (the "PLSLRA") provides a "safe harbor" for forward-looking statements so long as those statements are identified as forward-looking and are accompanied by meaningful cautionary statements identifying important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in such statements.

Statements contained herein that are not based on historical fact, as well as other statements including words such as "anticipate," "believe," "plan," "estimate," "expect," "intend," "will," "could" and other similar expressions, constitute forward-looking statements under the PSLRA. APO and JUPITER intend that such forward-looking statements be subject to the safe harbor created thereby. Such forward-looking statements are based on current assumptions but involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause APO and JUPITER actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from current expectations. These risks include economic, competitive, governmental, technological and other factors discussed in APO and JUPITER annual, quarterly and other periodic public filings on record with the Securities and Exchange Commission which can be viewed free of charge on its website at http://www.sec.gov.

Please visit JUPITER's website: www.jupiterglobal.net

For more information regarding JUPITER, please contact: JUPITER Global Shareholder Services Phone: 1.800.963.6532 Email Address: Contact via http://www.marketwire.com/mw/emailprcntct?id=EF3E6BA7435F5C96 For more APO information please contact: Phone: 516-594-0005 x 221

SOURCE: JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp.


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Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Tanking hard... here comes .0009
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
not sure this is the news i was waiting for. i would have prefered cash, as i just got sucked in twog/ilgy merger about same scenario. apoa sits at 0.014 right now, when they gonna convert the shares, and all jphc dudes are gonna start selling, then apoa can just go to 0.0001
 
Posted by DQ. on :
 
It'll gap tomorrow when folks get home and read the news.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
First off:

"As consideration in the merger transaction, APO has agreed to exchange shares of its common stock ("the Issuable Shares") with JUPITER's shareholders at an exchange ratio, which is subject to adjustment under the Merger Agreement that values the JUPITER shares at $0.005 per common share." (might get more might get less this is a ball park figure)

secondly: "The parties have agreed to use their best efforts to consummate the transaction by May 10, 2006, or as soon as practicable thereafter. "

Let's not freak and do some DD on APOA to see if it's any good!!!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I'm freaking out!
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
The volume for JPHC is flying up!
 
Posted by ATL8ball on :
 
What the f... We get news and still I end up red today???
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
do shorts have to cover before they do the transaction?
 
Posted by narbeh on :
 
wooohooooooooooooooooo in at 0.001 b*tches
 
Posted by ATL8ball on :
 
OOOOhhhh!! .0009
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
down to .0009 and dropping like michael jacksons jaw at a toys r us fashion show
 
Posted by ATL8ball on :
 
And I jumped for another load at .0012...should of waited...
 
Posted by buzzygresham on :
 
why would this drop?
 
Posted by LeeroyDollar on :
 
Ouch!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Here comes the .0008's... I'm gonna throw up.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
IMO the MM's took it down as far as they could one last time. They will use these shares of the week to make more on the way up.

If you look at TWOG is rose and I expect JPHC to be along the same lines.

Good luck to all and I have no idea when I'm out. I'll see along the way.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
holy f*** only 3 BIDs left at .0009 this may see .0008 today.

Talk about panic selling. Jesus
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
I am at a total loss here!!! This is freaking stupid!!
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
are they doing this cause they are caught severly short?
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
even APOA is downticking!!
 
Posted by GSilk316 on :
 
What the F is going on, still ahead but give me a break.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
wow, this is pretty crazy right now.
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
going down because there is no cash involved
 
Posted by ATL8ball on :
 
Buy on the Rumor sell on the .....??? How does that go again??? Oh yeah the Frigg'n NEWS!!!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Where is discreet and dkinvest?!?!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
dont panic :-)
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
that's cool, i can wait till i get my apoa shares
I'll still make a ton of money
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Time & Sales
Price Size Exch Time
0.0011 50000 OTO 15:43:18
0.0011 200000 OTO 15:43:17
0.0011 500000 OTO 15:43:16
0.0011 550000 OTO 15:43:15
0.0011 250000 OTO 15:43:11
0.0011 620000 OTO 15:43:03
0.0011 620000 OTO 15:43:03
0.0012 223500 OTO 15:43:01
0.0011 620000 OTO 15:42:57
0.0011 5000 OTO 15:42:56
0.0011 5000 OTO 15:42:55
0.0011 620000 OTO 15:42:53
0.0012 3000000 OTO 15:42:53
0.0012 79166 OTO 15:42:53
0.0011 620000 OTO 15:42:53
0.0012 1200000 OTO 15:42:50
0.0012 670000 OTO 15:42:50
0.0012 500000 OTO 15:42:50
0.0012 200000 OTO 15:42:50
0.0011 300000 OTO 15:42:45
0.0012 1250000 OTO 15:42:37
0.0011 665000 OTO 15:42:07
0.0011 2000000 OTO 15:41:54
0.0012 1000000 OTO 15:41:54
0.0012 715000 OTO 15:41:48
0.0012 835000 OTO 15:41:37
0.0012 250000 OTO 15:41:17
0.0011 250000 OTO 15:41:02
0.0012 200000 OTO 15:40:46
0.0011 200000 OTO 15:40:44


6 sells and 28 buys.
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
I'm waiting. Those shares will still make me a lot of cash =].
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
This has to be because APOA is a POS compnay and has no trading activity. We may never be able to get our shares out of them if we let wait around until the merger is completed. Oh well i have a pretty big position in this and am not selling until at least next week, when I see what this does.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Here comes the .0008's... I'm gonna throw up.

lol --- people... keep it cool... panic = nothing good! Who know's what's hapening... maybe the mm's are trying to shake everyone lose because they have to buy back shares... so don't sell!
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
Don't nobody go home tell our wives that we just bought the golden gate bridge in ARIZONA
 
Posted by GSilk316 on :
 
Terrible EOD
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
they are letting them cover their short's by selling, *******s
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
We got raped.
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Here comes the .0008's... I'm gonna throw up.

lol --- people... keep it cool... panic = nothing good! Who know's what's hapening... maybe the mm's are trying to shake everyone lose because they have to buy back shares... so don't sell!
I agree they're bringing it down to buy more
 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
I ain't seen a beating like this since someone threw a banana down my pants and let a monkey loose.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Where is discreet and dkinvest?!?!

Whatya scared of?
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
ya I would have to guess they are trying to buy up as many as possible before the merger. I really wouldn't worry right now
 
Posted by DQ. on :
 
Well maybe a stock GURU can explain that sh#$t to me.WTF!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
hold on we all have until May 10th --- they hope to finalize the deal by then!!! We'll be gapping tomorrow!!! Just wait and see!!! Everyone take a deep breath and take'er easy!!!!

We have pleanty of time on our side! I'm audi here... ciao! See you all in the a.m.!
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
we flied no where !!! Lucky, I get out early.
 
Posted by plni on :
 
MMs scrambling to suck up shares today,might be a great day tomorrow
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Should have bought NDOL instead... *PUKE*

God help us all if we open in the .0007's
 
Posted by ATL8ball on :
 
Deeeeep Breaths......OOmmmmmmmmm! OOmmmmmmmmm!

Ok fell much better...and they can't pry my shares away from with this little shake-shake!!!

Hang in there guys!!
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
yeah this might be an ugly one
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
we flied no where !!! Lucky, I get out early.

buddy you're not welcome here anymore!!! No gold for you here! Try Qbid or NCDP --- those are the real gold mines (only for stockforfun dude)
 
Posted by edgewise on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
IMO the MM's took it down as far as they could one last time. They will use these shares of the week to make more on the way up.

I'm thinking you may be onto something.
I picked up 500k shares at .0009 right before close.
For some odd reason, I'm expecting a gap up in the morning. LOL.
You don't take a stock down 30+% just for the hell of it.
I dunno. I hope/expect that I could be right.

Who knows.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
If this was really as bad as some make it out to be Why are so many MM's lining up on both sides? They shook the tree hard and a lot of lemons fell out. Now maybe we can go forward. There were a ton of buys at the end all buys. Hold tight.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
see ya tomorrow, I wouldn't worry! the great mm gods are just trying to get all the shares they can. (I hope) see ya!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
STockforfun, you can drop dead.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Repo, if you look at the T&S there was like 25million of all buys leading up to the close. that doesn't usually lead to a gap down.

Then again, the rest of this didn;t make sense either, so i don't know... [Smile]
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
Tommorrow will be a good day [Cool]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
PCola, you know and I know, the morning gap ups are made when buyers enter orders in the AM.

Forget what happens today.

Everyone will read the news tonight... then what...
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
No way this gaps up tomorrow.
Awful close. They better cough up an 8-k on this
fast.
I bought in at HOD so I've got no one to blame but myself for this God forsaken mess I'm in here.
MPWEE bailed my hairy arse out today.
If this hits .007, I'm gone.
 
Posted by ATL8ball on :
 
If we open in the 7-9's I'm gonna buy a ton more!!
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
why would ppl sell at this price.. wtf.. this is ridiculous..
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ATL8ball:
If we open in the 7-9's I'm gonna buy a ton more!!

same here I'm gonna load up
 
Posted by daytrader1 on :
 
i bought at 0.014 [Frown] ..infact i was also about to sell my stuff in NDOL and AURC into this one... dont know how it will do tomorrow.. GLTA!!!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
Maybe the MM's mis-read the PR and thought that it said .0005, instead of .005. lol


Patience people - MM's are screwin with this right now.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
They are selling for 2 reasons:

1. APOA is a company who stock has low daily volume, and who lost $600+ million last year.
2. JPCH shareholders are receiving stock, not cash, and that stock COULD be restricted. Details unknown.

All in all, one of the worst picks ever.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
you're going to get a crap load of the new company shares, even if that company drops a little, you would still come out ahead. Damn if it really tanked what bad luck would we have? I can't see selling in a panic when it still seems like a good idea, I think we are all going to be doing some DD tonight on the new company, and we should all have new ideas in the AM. Night!
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
You guys should probably read APOA's last filing. This could get real ugly.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1076607/000114420406015392/v040261.htm
 
Posted by deleet on :
 
hmmm, ok let me get this straight.

Each share of JPHC will be worth about 0.005 on May 10th, but instead of cash they're paying us in shares of APOA?

So if you had 1,000,000 shares of JPHC, thats 1,000,000 x 0.005 = $5000 worth of APOA

APOA is 0.012 right now, so if it was that much on May 10th, itd be $5000 / 0.012 = 416,667 shares of APOA

so basically, on May 10th we get around half a million shares of APOA to sell for every million shares of JPHC we own?

is this correct?
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
don't say restricted...makes me think of PAIM! If they are...the new company better have a damn good business plan for the future!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
This is turning into another SMMW... buying other crap companies with their billions of shares outstanding.
 
Posted by weatherbill on :
 
maybe the APOA stock will only tank 4X its value and we will wind up breaking even...ha ha
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Upside is right... this will be a bloodbath tomorrow.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
How can the MM's screw with this this hard? For the last 5 days we have listened to people talk about how when the merger/buy out is announced that they won't be able to hold this back and the MM's are gonna be screwed because they are so short....news is out and we don't see anything of the nature, WHY?
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
lol but that is so true, the other stock can still tank and we will be ok
 
Posted by EverGreen on :
 
very disappointing reaction to news

APOA just voted
- name change
- new AS 25B

so i think they will absorbe JPHC 6B shares without any restriction

without such increase an RS was needed by JPHC

is not the case (IMO)
 
Posted by GADOWPOW on :
 
Think about this...when all of us that has massive stock holdings get our shares, what do you think at least 20% will do? Sell there APOA shares and it will tank. I really hope it wont and ill be around to see it, but WTF happened? [Mad] This is the only stock that GREAT news comes out and finishes 25% down for the day. Can anyone shed some light on this?


quote:
Originally posted by mustang21112:
that's cool, i can wait till i get my apoa shares
I'll still make a ton of money


 
Posted by shomethamoney on :
 
This reminds me of the Xmas vacation movie - Clark gets the jelly of the month club subscription - Eddie says, "Clark that's the gift that keeps on giving" hahaha sorry I just had to put that in!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
How can the MM's screw with this this hard? For the last 5 days we have listened to people talk about how when the merger/buy out is announced that they won't be able to hold this back and the MM's are gonna be screwed because they are so short....news is out and we don't see anything of the nature, WHY?

hmmm well...eather we are SCREWED or, the news came out REALLY late in the day, the mm's only had time to shake shake shake and havent let it go yet...I hope its the second option
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I doubt it... and I'm so long on this stock.... I'm f*cked.
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
jezz, there was lot of activity in after hours trading, still holding at 0.009
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
now 0.0008
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Repoman, are you over there at rb causing a ruckus. lol. TMAN...
 
Posted by EverGreen on :
 
OK vaseline for everybody LOL
(special sale price 9x1 $9)
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
Repo, I hope you're not. Listen nothing u can do about it now. Would be nutts to sell for a loss right now when nobody knows what is going to happen. Go home, relax, pray. And we shall be back tomorrow
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
i got ripped in twog/igly - same scenario - and haven't learned my lesson, got into this one, i'm i smart or what? lol
see the simpsons: lets try the red one again
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
I will look to get out on MM head fake in the morning. Good luck all.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
TMAN... nothing to do but b1tch and moan for tonight eh?


If it goes above .001 tomorrow, I will begin cheerleading again.

But Upside sank my battleship with that SEC post.
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
good thing the mms kept the price down, otherwise think of the crash
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Besides, RB is full of clowns anyways.
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
not happy at all.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jump'em&pump'em:
How can the MM's screw with this this hard? For the last 5 days we have listened to people talk about how when the merger/buy out is announced that they won't be able to hold this back and the MM's are gonna be screwed because they are so short....news is out and we don't see anything of the nature, WHY?

Key word "listened to people". You gotta do your own DD. Like I've been telling people the whole time make sure you are riding "free" shares, like me.

Always protect your capital and take a little profit to keep you in the game.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
SHould have sold at .0014.. damnit! Take profits and move on!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Deleet, I think that is correct. What that means to the JPHC holders I think is as follows:

If you bought in at .0014 which would be the top today, you'd have to sell your APO shares for .00336 to breakeven, which is 72% down from where it's trading today.

If you bought at .12 you could withstand a 76% loss from APO

If you bought at .001 you could withstand an 80% loss.

Also, if you sold in the morning at, say .008, if you bought at:

.0014 you'd lose 43%. In order to lose 43% if you held until the merger, APO would have to be trading at less than .0019, or down 84%

etc etc for other entry points.

I have no experience with any of this, so I don't know how likely any of these are, but it seems like there's at least a decent chance that people's losses won't be completely crippling, and if APO manages to stay above 28% of today's value, people will still make money.

As far as I can tell, the ONLY way you are guaranteed to lose money is if you sell before the merger.

Anyone have a different take on it?

quote:
Originally posted by deleet:
hmmm, ok let me get this straight.

Each share of JPHC will be worth about 0.005 on May 10th, but instead of cash they're paying us in shares of APOA?

So if you had 1,000,000 shares of JPHC, thats 1,000,000 x 0.005 = $5000 worth of APOA

APOA is 0.012 right now, so if it was that much on May 10th, itd be $5000 / 0.012 = 416,667 shares of APOA

so basically, on May 10th we get around half a million shares of APOA to sell for every million shares of JPHC we own?

is this correct?


 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
PCola, you hit on the head... BUT, what if shares are restricted? Then we have to hope for a favorable scenario 1 year later!
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
APOA could have at least had the decency to buy and sell at least 50M of it's own shares to give the small illusion of volume before the aquisition PR. I think that's what is killing this. Wee will get an equal number of shares dollar wise for a company that is currently trading over .01, great. It's still pretty tough to sell what no one is buying. Hell, Hawkins should have bought a bunch of APOA if he is that concerned about share holder value. I think to many people are woried about the value of this new company, after seeing thae market reaction it would be in their (or our, so i'm selfish) best interest to do a retraction and make a cash tender offer to shareholders for less than .005. I bet we would be all over it.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
PCola77 perfect.
The only thing you forgot to mention was if JPHC goes up to meet some of the difference then peeps could get out if they wanted.

As for me, I'm planning on holding free through the transfer/exchange and all.

Good luck and enjoy the game.

I had a great experience with IWNN --> IWNE and even sold out early for a gain. That was fun, except missing the extra .75c every share 5 mins later.

Rock of the Marne!!!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Repo, Like i said, I'm new to this but my guess is that they'd have to announce before the merger if the shares are restricted or not. If they announce that they are, then you have to make the decision to sell your JPHC shares at the current price or risk holding APO for however long they're restricted.

I honestly think the worst time to sell would be tomorrow. My bet is that all the other options will end up being better in the long run.

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
PCola, you hit on the head... BUT, what if shares are restricted? Then we have to hope for a favorable scenario 1 year later!


 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Unless APOA comes out with great PR's in the next week about contracts, inventions, the cure for AIDS, we're fooked in my opinion.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I'm not selling tomorrow unless it hits .001 or higher. I'll breakeven and get out and go buy NDOl or something.
 
Posted by buzzygresham on :
 
is it possible that it may break out and mm's were messing with this?? maybe its a big shake?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
At least we won't hear any more garbage of ".01 here come!"
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Unless APOA comes out with great PR's in the next week about contracts, inventions, the cure for AIDS, we're fooked in my opinion.

"Fooked" as in fried and cooked.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
actually if you read the letter they basically just bought JPHC for Macrosouth. i bet APOA drops the medical #*^% and rolls with Macrosouth which is a solid business. I think what we are gonna see is a change in business strategy by APOA hence the chance in company name and ticker. Dont think that your holding a company that is the medical field, this purchase was specifically for macrosouth.

"APO is making a shift in its business future and JUPITER, and primarily its subsidiary, Macro Communications, Inc. (www.macrosouth.com), presented the best opportunity for us to build a significant operation under a new direction for our shareholders."
 
Posted by Baxt06 on :
 
NDOL is a good buy tomorrow morning Repoman, I'll be clearing out of this and buying more there.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Agree sbcrow.

Do we know what Macrosouth revenues are like?
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
News Falsh: JPHC and APOA merge and change their symbol to JAFP. Just Another F***ing Pink. I am so pissed right now, I was looking at 14 the other day but I was just to greedy to only double my money, I should know by now.
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
I am new to this but I think that APOA's volume hurt us but if you look their volume is now growing. Their volume will be sufficient when ours coverts to theirs! I think that it will be okay and there is still a profit to be made!
 
Posted by SuperSniper00 on :
 
told you JPHC sucks
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Dogcatcher just admitted on RB that this stock was a good "trade" for people who bought around .0003's... basically calling us morons for holding this long.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Joker is shell shocked.

Sniper - you never told me??
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
http://eol.edgar-online.com/edgar_conv_html/2006/04/21/0001108017-06-000305.html #FIS_TOP_OF_DOCUMENT

about a million dollar loss in 2004. Not THAT bad, with some finesse and maybe a new business plan it might see green. I think tomorrow is gonna be a nightmare but this actually might not be as bad of a play as we think it is. Id much rather see Macrosouth leading the change than anything else.
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
SBRCOW, can I have that $20.00 now?
 
Posted by GADOWPOW on :
 
Please stop talking on this forum...like the other guy said, whoever reads your posts are dumber for it.

quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
we flied no where !!! Lucky, I get out early.


 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
I am getting the heck out tomorrow, taking a loss of 20 to 30%.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I would wait... you may have a PR spike in the next week or so.

If you sell tomorrow, you will sell at the low.
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
Here's an example:
Here's how it works:

After a company announces an intent to acquire another, the price of the target company's stock predictably goes up, although usually not to the full offering price. Instead, because of the risk of the deal not closing on time or at all, the target company's stock will sell at a discount to its value at the merger's closing, this discount increasing with the expected length of time until closing and the perceived risk of the deal. (In the SBC-Pacific Telecom merger, West Broadway got in at an approximately 5 percent discount, or "spread," two months before closing.) The merger arbitrageur seeks to lock in this spread. When the offer is a cash offer, the arbitrageur merely has to buy the stock of the target in order to do this. However, when the offer is a trade of securities, like in the SBC-Pacific Telecom merger, the investor must also hedge against the possibility of the acquirer's stock falling. He does this by selling the acquirer's stock short.

Consider a hypothetical stock-for-stock transaction in which Company A, with stock trading at $105, offers one share of its stock for each share of Company B stock, currently trading at $80. An investor looking to create an arbitrage profit would buy Company B stock at, say, $100, the price to which it climbed immediately after the merger announcement, and sell short Company A stock at $105 in an amount equal to the exchange ratio - in this case 1-to-1. (Actually, in some instances, particularly in megamergers, the acquirer's stock price usually drops somewhat immediately after the announcement, as shorting pressure pulls down the price; but for this example we'll keep it at $105.) As the merger date draws nearer, this $5 spread will narrow as the prices of Company B and Company A stocks converge. When the spread narrows, the investor's returns grow - for example, if Company B stock rises to $101 and Company A falls to $104, the investor earns $1 on the long investment and $1 on the short.

Once the merger is consummated and Company B stock is converted to Company A shares, the investor locks in the $5 gain regardless of the current price of Company A stock. (His Company B shares are converted into Company A shares, which he delivers to cover his short sale of Company A shares at $105.) If during the interim the market has tumbled, sending Company A stock down to $80, the investor makes $25 on the short sale of Company A stock at $105 minus the loss of $20 on the Company B shares for which he paid $100. (Though if a market downturn causes Company A stock to fall significantly before the merger closes, Company B might back out of the deal; as a cover against a market downturn, some fund managers supplement their merger arbitrage investments with put options on the S&P Index, which enable the manager to lock in a sell price in the event the index craters.) In this way, the investment is buffered from violent market swings.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
who thinks the shorts need to cover here before they actually merge?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Here's another shell shocked poster on RB:

My take after just talking to shareholder services!!! As per the news today our shares will be worth .005. These shares will be restricted for 1 year after May 10th. The guy I spoke to said there is about 50% of people who are willing to hold this for that year.. He also stated that there is possibly a large short position here in which has to be covered by the close of May 10th. I get the impression alot of shares will have to be bought because the shares must be accounted for. I think thats why we ran a little bit. Also we sold off a little, due to daytraders as well. I think we go up from here, maybe a dip. Bottom line is you can make 500% on your money if willing to hold for a year!!
 
Posted by EverGreen on :
 
i have a dream

- nobody sell (not tomorrow nor after)

- short must cover before 05/10

and we fly at .002+
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Shorts by law, have to cover.

The question you need to ask is how many shares are actually short? It it a lot, or just minimal?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I have a dream... nevermind, I just woke up to a reality nightmare.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
As consideration in the merger transaction, APO has agreed to exchange shares of its common stock ("the Issuable Shares")  - with JUPITER's shareholders at an exchange ratio,

http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060425/0125030.html
1st sentence of the 1st paragraph
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Roire, is that smiley crying or sweating?
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
APOA has just filed an 8-k at 5:03 here it is...
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
Form 8-K for APO HEALTH INC /NV/

25-Apr-2006

Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement, Regulation FD Disclosure, Financi


Item 1.01 Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement.

On April 21, 2006, APO Health, Inc., a Nevada corporation (APO), entered into a definitive Agreement and Plan of Merger (the Merger Agreement) with APO Health Acquisition Corp, Inc., a Nevada corporation and wholly-owned subsidiary of APO (APO Acquisition), and Jupiter Global Holdings, Corp., a Nevada corporation (Jupiter). The Merger Agreement provides that upon the terms and subject to the conditions set forth in the Merger Agreement, APO Acquisition will merge with and into Jupiter, with Jupiter being the surviving corporation (the Surviving Corporation) and a wholly-owned subsidiary of APO (the Merger).

At the Effective Time (as defined below) of the Merger, (a) pursuant to the terms of APOs certificate of incorporation and the Merger Agreement, each share of Common Stock of Surviving Corporation issued and outstanding immediately prior to the Effective Time shall be converted into and become a right to receive one-quarter (0.25) of a share of common stock of APO (the Conversion Price), subject to adjustment as described herein (the Issuable Shares), and shall automatically be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist. The Conversion Price is based on $0.02 per share, the market price of APOs common stock at the time of execution of the Merger Agreement (Market Price). The Conversion Price shall be adjusted proportionately should the average closing sale price of APOs common stock for the 20 consecutive trading days prior to the closing date be greater or less than the Market Price.

The Merger Agreement provides that the Issuable Shares will not be registered under the Securities Act, or the securities laws of any state, and absent an exemption from registration contained in such laws, cannot be transferred, hypothecated, sold or otherwise disposed of until; (i) a registration statement with respect to such securities is declared effective under the Securities Act, or (ii) APO receives an opinion of counsel for APO that an exemption from the registration requirements of the Securities Act is available.

The Merger Agreement includes customary representations, warranties and covenants by Jupiter, including, among others, covenants (i) to conduct its business in the ordinary course consistent with past practice during the interim period between the execution of the Merger Agreement and consummation of the Merger, (ii) not to engage in certain kinds of transactions during such period, and (iii) not to solicit proposals relating to alternative business combination transactions. APO and APO Acquisition Sub have also made customary representations, warranties and covenants in the Merger Agreement, including covenants (i) to conduct its business in the ordinary course consistent with past practice during the interim period between the execution of the Merger Agreement and consummation of the Merger and (ii) not to engage in certain kinds of transactions during such period.

The consummation of the Merger is subject to certain conditions, including (i) receipt of any necessary governmental approvals, (ii) approval of the Merger Agreement and the Merger by the stockholders of APO and Jupiter, (iii) absence of any law or order prohibiting the consummation of the Merger, and (iv) subject to certain exceptions, the accuracy of the representations and warranties made by Jupiter and by APO.

The parties to the Merger Agreement have agreed to use their best efforts to consummate the transactions by May 10, 2006, or as soon thereafter as practicable (in any event, the Effective Time). In the event the transactions are not consummated by May 30, 2006, APO or Jupiter may terminate the Merger Agreement without any further liability owing to the other party. There can be no assurances that the Merger will be effected under the terms of the Merger Agreement or at all.

A copy of the Merger Agreement is filed as Exhibit 10.1 to this Current Report and is incorporated by reference herein. The foregoing summary of the Merger Agreement is qualified by the Merger Agreement in its entirety.


Item 7.01 Regulation FD Disclosure.

The information set forth under this Item 7.01, including Exhibit 99.1 attached hereto, shall not be deemed filed for the purposes of Section 18 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, nor shall it be deemed incorporated by reference in any filing under the Securities Act, except as shall be expressly set forth by specific reference in any such filing. Attached hereto as Exhibit 99.1 is a Press Release issued by APO on April 24, 2006 regarding the parties execution of the Merger Agreement.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
thanks roiresearch. So to me that means no restricted shares.

Tomorrow I think I will buy a few shares of APOA and see what happens.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
why are you sweating roire? TMAN...
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
5000th post!

We are getting common shares, not restricted as per the 8-K. and we are getting the full .0050 value (referred to as the adjustment) hold those shares people, imo people overreacted bc they thought we were getting restricted shares. I am holding my shares because the amount of common shares will be adjusted so the cash value of your shares (.0050 per share) will not change.

good luck tomorrow guys
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
but do we have a short position...thats the question... i am sure it is restricted stock and that could turn out good or bad because in a year a lot can change and apoa can make a turnaround maybe...people who need the money to trade with will sell and i understand...but i am very curious to what the shortposition is and if they have no other option than covering or do they maybe have a way out of this?
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
NEWS again 8k filed

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename %3D0001144204%252D06%252D016747%252Etxt%26filepath%3D%255C2006%255C04%255C25%255 C&symbol=APOA
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Jmoove just made his 5000th post on AllStocks, for this he will redeive the next 5000 free of charge as well. Congats J.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
jdg posted the wrong agreement paragraph here is the paragraph as it pertains to the Jupiter capital merger

Each share of Common Stock of TARGET issued and outstanding immediately prior to the Effective Time shall be converted into and become a right to receive one-quarter (0.25) of a Share of Common Stock (“Conversion Price”), subject to adjustment as provided herein, of the PARENT (the “Issuable Shares”) and shall automatically be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist. The Conversion Price is premised on the market price of the PARENT’s common stock at the time of execution of this Agreement, being $0.02 per share (“Market Price”). The Conversion Price shall be adjusted proportionately should the average closing sale price of the PARENT’s common stock for the 20 consecutive trading days prior to the Closing Date be greater or less than the Market Price. Each holder of a certificate representing any such TARGET Common Stock shall, to the extent such certificate represents such TARGET Common Stock , cease to have any rights with respect to such TARGET Common Stock , except the right to receive the Issuable Shares allocable to the shares represented by such certificate upon surrender of such certificate in accordance with Section 1.09. In calculating the number of Issuable Shares to issue to each TARGET shareholder, general rounding principles should control the actual calculation, which shall result in no issuance of any fractional shares to the TARGET shareholders.
 
Posted by daytrader1 on :
 
allright..too many romours..speculations..all just because of one reason... that the price dropped to 0.009.

well .. RB is crap**** and i guess the shell shocked guy didnt go through the merger statement properly. i hope if people dont actually own this stock as of today, they give us a break.. and not remind us "we told you this would happen". we all understand the risks we take and are solely responsible.
cottonjim, go read the PR properly. all thats happening is APO is issuing its own shares. not forming a new company.

positive of this is..atleast it is OTC board stock rather than pinks. good, now we can see some REAL earnings, REAL stock movements etc.

i wont be surprised if all that happened was short selling. so tomorrow will definitely be GOOD.

company with 12M revenue, add revenues generated by macro, which is atleast in range of 5-6M. and assume that the price of share still stays around 0.0015, not bad, if they are able to buy back some of the common stock, (if they truly beleive in their business model), then it definitely wont be that bad at all..

so lets relax.. enjoy the beer bought from yesterdays gains on NDOL and see this through!! GLTA
 
Posted by pay up on :
 
we get 1 APO for every 4 JPHC.
1 APO figured at .02
JPHC " .005
 
Posted by McShooter on :
 
Let me get this straight!!! I picked up 1,000,000 more shares today at .0010 and all I have to do is hold my position (in at .00082) for one year and my 2,150,000 shares will now be worth $10,750.00. That's what you call a 530%%%%%%errrrrrr!!!!

Longs Holding Strong and Getting Stronger!!!

500 into 100K...You Gotta' Believe!!!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
so today = 1 APO for every 4 JPHC.
1 APO figured at .012 = JPHC valued X .003 right now.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by daytrader1:
allright..too many romours..speculations..all just because of one reason... that the price dropped to 0.009.

well .. RB is crap**** and i guess the shell shocked guy didnt go through the merger statement properly. i hope if people dont actually own this stock as of today, they give us a break.. and not remind us "we told you this would happen". we all understand the risks we take and are solely responsible.

cottonjim, go read the PR properly. all thats happening is APO is issuing its own shares. not forming a new company.

positive of this is..atleast it is OTC board stock rather than pinks. good, now we can see some REAL earnings, REAL stock movements etc.

i wont be surprised if all that happened was short selling. so tomorrow will definitely be GOOD.

company with 12M revenue, add revenues generated by macro, which is atleast in range of 5-6M. and assume that the price of share still stays around 0.0015, not bad, if they are able to buy back some of the common stock, (if they truly beleive in their business model), then it definitely wont be that bad at all..

so lets relax.. enjoy the beer bought from yesterdays gains on NDOL and see this through!! GLTA

Daytrader, I know that they aren't forming a new company, geezeus, just trying to lighten the situation a little, ya know, have a little fun!
I am still long in JPHC and am not going to get caught up in the panic selling, I am curious to see what happens as the 10th approaches.
Can't a guy try to have a little fun, maybe lighten the mood a bit, sorry if I came off as bashing, not my intent.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
are the shares we are receiving restricted or common shares?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Mc.. these are not restricted shares, free trading shares as per the 8-k, common stock
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
We are to receive COMMON SHARES of APOA.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
not ARE receiving but would receive if we waited out the merger
 
Posted by daytrader1 on :
 
sorry abt dat cottonjim... i myself got pissed given the fact that i got in at 0.0014.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
cottonjim, go read the PR properly. all thats happening is APO is issuing its own shares. not forming a new company

Top to bottom left to right, makes perfect sense now, got it. Just having fun man [Smile]
 
Posted by McShooter on :
 
Ohio-Trader,
Where you at? What is your opinion on the happenings today?

Longs Holding Strong and Getting Stronger!!!

500 into 100K...You Gotta' believe!!!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Thanks Mrs. Patterson.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
Money..

The conversion clause allows for adjustment relative to the avg trading price over the last 20 trading days. Lets say the avg is today's closing price .012, JPHC is still valued at .0050, thus the conversion ratio is .012/.0050 = 2.4. Which means that for ever 2.4 shares of JPHC you would receive 1 share of APOA. This is a very good deal people that are feeding bull$4it on other boards need to learn how to read the 8-K.
 
Posted by McShooter on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
Mc.. these are not restricted shares, free trading shares as per the 8-k, common stock

That's even better!!!
 
Posted by deleet on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
5000th post!

We are getting common shares, not restricted as per the 8-K. and we are getting the full .0050 value (referred to as the adjustment) hold those shares people, imo people overreacted bc they thought we were getting restricted shares. I am holding my shares because the amount of common shares will be adjusted so the cash value of your shares (.0050 per share) will not change.

good luck tomorrow guys

well said. I agree, if they were going to be restricted, i think they would have mentioned it by now and not said "common shares". I think everyone is overreacting to speculation, when the only reality is that the MMs are screwing with our heads like usual.

I got in at 0.0007 and 0.0008, so i think the new stock would have to tank bigtime before i sold for me to actually lose money.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Ahh, thank you Jmoove. I now see.
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by McShooter:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
Mc.. these are not restricted shares, free trading shares as per the 8-k, common stock

That's even better!!!
I know [Smile] . I'm really excited I don't have to wait if I don't want to.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by deleet:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
5000th post!

We are getting common shares, not restricted as per the 8-K. and we are getting the full .0050 value (referred to as the adjustment) hold those shares people, imo people overreacted bc they thought we were getting restricted shares. I am holding my shares because the amount of common shares will be adjusted so the cash value of your shares (.0050 per share) will not change.

good luck tomorrow guys

well said. I agree, if they were going to be restricted, i think they would have mentioned it by now and not said "common shares". I think everyone is overreacting to speculation, when the only reality is that the MMs are screwing with our heads like usual.

I got in at 0.0007 and 0.0008, so i think the new stock would have to tank bigtime before i sold for me to actually lose money.

I think to many people are listenening to other peoples BS and panicking, right into th MM's hand's by the way. I believe it was Tman who said it best the other day "back away from the computer and take a deep breath." Som folks will need to back away for a few days for the dust to settle on this one. In my humble opinion of course.
 
Posted by McShooter on :
 
Jmoove,
You are the one with the Legal background, so I will take your insight all the way to the bank!!!


500 into 100K...You Gotta' Believe!!!
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
Money..

The conversion clause allows for adjustment relative to the avg trading price over the last 20 trading days. Lets say the avg is today's closing price .012, JPHC is still valued at .0050, thus the conversion ratio is .012/.0050 = 2.4. Which means that for ever 2.4 shares of JPHC you would receive 1 share of APOA. This is a very good deal people that are feeding bull$4it on other boards need to learn how to read the 8-K.

Yup it is a good deal.

Hold on to your shares!
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
think of it this way if the avg price of APOA is .0050 on the conversion date, and the price of APOA is .0010 You still break even if you bought JPHC at .0010 because the conversion ratio would be 1 for 1, thus you recieve the same amount of shares in APOA as you now hold in JPHC. This is the best deal I have ever seen!
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Jmoove, doesn't it also stand to reason that if the price of APOA stock goes up the 20 consecutive buisness days before the consumation of the merger, our JPHC shares would have less value? I would think that if this were the case, the value of JPHC should increase accordingly.
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
This was posted on another board: She says the shares are restricted! Anyone KNOW different?

bohogirl
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The Scoop
I just got off the phone with Loyola Financial, which handles JPHC.

It will be a share exhange (new comp for JPHC) and the shares will be restricted unless JPHC lawyer files something that claims exemption (he told me the form, i think it's 1-40, but I forgot already
If the shares are restricted, which they will most likely be, it will be for one year; after one year there will be a limit to how much you can sell, and after two years they will be completely unrestricted.

Hope that helps a bit... now I need to decide what to do with my holdings - for all I know, I might be dead in a year

She says the shares are restricted! Anyone KNOW different?
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
restricted shares just don't make sense.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
I posted this over at RB, what a bunch of idiots:

First of all they have to say "restricted common stock" in the 8-K if they intend to issue restricted shares otherwise they open themselves up to liability under Sec. 11 of the Sec. Act of 1933. Secondly, this is an adjustable conversion price. Meaning that the valuation of .0050 stays the same, the ratio of shares changes. Meaning that if the avg price of APOA is .0050 on the date of exchange then we get 1 share of APOA for every 1 share of JPHC. Call the company they will tell you the same thing. In lawschool I took multiple securities law courses, that IS how it works and if they do anything different then they open themselves up for liability.


Additionally, the "exemption" bohogirl is referring to is an exemption under 4a of the 1933 act which allows companies to conduct private offering of restricted shares and they do not need to file a registration statement for these securities. However, to my knowledge in the 8-k APOA would have to disclose thier intent to make the exchanged shares restricted. This all means that the key paragraph is in Section 1.08 of the 8-K:"The Issuable Shares will not be registered under the Securities Act, or the securities laws of any state, and absent an exemption from registration contained in such laws, cannot be transferred, hypothecated, sold or otherwise disposed of until; (i) a registration statement with respect to such securities is declared effective under the Securities Act, or (ii) PARENT receives an opinion of counsel for PARENT that an exemption from the registration requirements of the Securities Act is available."
What this means is that they intend either to register the shares or find an exemption to allow these to be free trading.

Though this is not legal counsel to any of you, to the best of my knowledge that is what is going down.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
The shares are restricted. Here's the part of the 8-K that answers that question:

"SECTION 1.08 RESTRICTIONS ON RESALE

The Issuable Shares will not be registered under the Securities Act, or the securities laws of any state, and absent an exemption from registration contained in such laws, cannot be transferred, hypothecated, sold or otherwise disposed of until; (i) a registration statement with respect to such securities is declared effective under the Securities Act, or (ii) PARENT receives an opinion of counsel for PARENT that an exemption from the registration requirements of the Securities Act is available.

The certificates representing the number of Issuable Shares into which the TARGET Common Stock shall have been converted pursuant to this Agreement shall contain legends substantially as follows:

“THE SECURITIES WHICH ARE REPRESENTED BY THIS CERTIFICATE HAVE NOT BEEN REGISTERED UNDER THE SECURITIES ACT OF 1933, AS AMENDED, AND MAY NOT BE SOLD, TRANSFERRED, HYPOTHECATED OR OTHERWISE DISPOSED OF UNTIL A REGISTRATION STATEMENT WITH RESPECT THERETO IS DECLARED EFFECTIVE UNDER SUCH ACT, OR THE COMPANY RECEIVES AN OPINION OF COUNSEL FOR THE COMPANY THAT AN EXEMPTION FROM THE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS OF SUCH ACT IS AVAILABLE.”

That describes restricted securities.
You will get a certificate that can be converted into x amount of common shares after the company removes the restriction. If these are standard Rule 144 shares, you can possibly get them unrestricted after one year but they won't become truly free trading for two years, again that's IF they're Rule 144 securities. Here's a link to the stipulations of Rule 144 shares:

http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/rule144.htm
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
I agree with most of that Upside, however, judging from the 8-k they are going to put forth the best effort to find either an exemption or register the shares, who knows. They should really PR a cohesive explanation regarding thier plans.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Outstanding dis-claimer Jmoove. THat is far better than IMO, more credible to, here after let it be known as NLCTAOY. Have a great night, tommorow might be interesting, or it might be so-so, or it might completely suck, I do know that it tommorow will definatly be Wed. though.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
I agree with most of that Upside, however, judging from the 8-k they are going to put forth the best effort to find either an exemption or register the shares, who knows. They should really PR a cohesive explanation regarding thier plans.

Yep, I agree. Hopefully they'll clear it up soon.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
Let me just take a break from this utter chaos. I have been trading for a little over a year in pennies (have actually never traded anything else). This is by far the wildest ride ive been on so far. Whatever I lose (or gain) on this stock will not matter in a few years, but I garentee this experience will. I have learned alot from this and still have so much more to learn. I have never seen anything crazier than the world of penny stocks. If you go through all the posts here it is like a circus, bashers, pumpers, people who think they knew what was going on and actually had no idea.

Sorry I'm rambling but the point I am trying to make is...learn from every trade you make. Even if everything turns out alrite for this stock, which I hope will, always do your own DD and never bank on what anyone else says. Also, there is never a sure thing. How many people thought once we got the news it was 100% going to .005. If you are pissed I am so non-chalant about this then you probably put way to much of your savings in this and are mad. I am sorry to hear that if you did, because you just learned another lesson.
 
Posted by GADOWPOW on :
 
This guy said it best over at RBull...

"I thought the shorts may have had inside information on this deal. It turns out they didn't know squat! They are terrified right now. They not only have to cover they have to do it by a very specific date!! LMAO! I bought in immediately upon reading the news.

It is clearly evident given the enormous short position of nonexistent shares that have to be covered - JPHC will be pushed into the stratosphere past .005 who knows how high?? the shares have to be produced!! It could go over a nickle a share if the short position is large enough. I believe it's called a SHORT SQUEEZE.

APOA PPS doesn't really mean anything any way you look at it. They have to give you .005 for your JPHC shares.

BOTTOM LINE: YOUR STOCK IS WORTH AT A MINIMUM .005 X NUMBER OF SHARES YOU OWN."
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
If you own 1 share today of JPHC and come conversion date APOA is .02, you will receive 1/4 APOA (valuing it at .005)

If you own 40 million shares of JPHC, using the above scenario, you will receive 10 million shares of APOA at .02


JPHC: 40,000,000 * .0009 = $36,000

APOA: 10,000,000 * .02 = $200,000

Deal or No Deal

Howie, I'll take the deal
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
OCEANSIDE, NY--(MARKET WIRE)--Apr 25, 2006 -- APO Health, Inc. ("APO") (OTC BB:APOA.OB - News) and JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER") (Other OTC:JPHC.PK - News) today jointly announced their execution of a Definitive Agreement and Plan of Merger (the "Merger Agreement") pursuant to which APO has agreed, through a wholly owned subsidiary, to acquire 100% of the issued and outstanding common shares of JUPITER, and JUPITER has agreed, at the closing of the transaction, to become a wholly owned subsidiary of APO. As consideration in the merger transaction, APO has agreed to exchange shares of its common stock ("the Issuable Shares") with JUPITER's shareholders at an exchange ratio , which is subject to adjustment under the Merger Agreement that values the JUPITER shares at $0.005 per common share.
 
Posted by dale on :
 
What was the cutoff date to get the exchange or can you still get more shares, thanks
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
common stock can be restricted or unrestricted but what did the company say itself?
 
Posted by same on :
 
Read the post below it spells out everything that is going to happen in the situation we are in now with JPHC from what I have learned..

In answer to many of your questions... (this from one of 150 longs that own MORE than the float combined... 3 billion shares of a 2.5 billion float)

Why the wall? Becuase the news is due out tomorrow, this is the LAST time the shorts will have a chance to TRY to cover. The buying/selling ratio today was 87%, on 1.8 billion shares and it only ended up a tick. Some think that the MM's were acquiring alot of shares, but look at L2 throughout the day... a ton of 900k and 950k share trades were 'painted' which means MM's trading amongst one another, NOT selling.

Also, many in our group bought today, but their buys were painted as sells... there are a FEW MM's short in this and they know that their chances to try to shake the longs are nearly over... tomorrow and thereafter with a FINALITY PR, the game is over.

Take a look HARD at the number of shares traded since January... over 20 billion... and if just 150 out of 2000 shareholders own more than the float...

Where did those shares come from? We have good methodical sources that estimate there is a short of between 2-b billion shares, both with MM's and overseas, and their day is VERY due... very very due.

Becuause this is NOT going to be a merger in the sense of new company, new shares issued, but rather a BUYOUT of between .005 and .01, the MM's cant rely on buying shares from the 'new stock' to repay their shorts.

And imagine if the buyout is .01? No one will sell before then, AND this stock could climb infinately to cover those shorts... especially if JPHC comes out and says...

Due to our CREDIBLE valuation by Evans and Evans, we estimate there are XXXX amount of shorts on the market. The SEC would HAVE to come in and come in hard with a beater stick.

The Doctor
*********************************************************
Now for more I found out that I can remember.
First anyone who sells for less than .005 is an IDIOT thats how it was put to me in talkable terms.

The deal states .005 is the conversion rate and that is what we will receive 005.

The APO Company just increased their A/S to 25 Billion to account for this transaction. From what I was told there should be no R/S because of this.

No one knows the sharestructure until the 8-K and Merger agreement come out which the 8_K should be out in a few days.

A Divedend still could be announced in the 8-K Filing since it was mentioned in a previous PR. Not 100% sure but it could happen.

Per PR the Shares from the new Company at this point will not be registered which means they are Restricted at this point but that could change in the 8-K coming out in a few days.

If they are restricted then it is like them giving you .005 in a Bank account that you can not touch.
The reason for this is to not flood the market with shares. As I stated this may change in the 8-K or the Merger Agreement on may 10.

Now here is the important part that I could make out.

Before the Deal is done which is May 10 right now our shares will have to be accounted for because of the Name Change and Stock # Change.
This means the Shorts need Legal Shares and will Drive the price up to get these shares. If no one sells the shares they Drive the price up more.

They cannot do this with Restricted Shares so they have to Cover by the Date the New Shares are issued.
This is how I understood everything.

We will have a massive short covering for Legal Shares.

If the price goes up and you sell into it it means you have your money in hand as we all want.
I hope this helps, I see this as a Good thing.
Re read the Dr Who Post again.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Finally! I get home, read through 4 pages of post-news posts and see the truth of the situation in the last post I read by gadowpow...

BOTTOM LINE: YOUR STOCK IS WORTH AT A MINIMUM .005 X NUMBER OF SHARES YOU OWN."

MMs were gracious enough to allow me the opportunity to buy at .0002 and .0004. I'll return the favor and offer 1M at .03. And the rest, well... I might sell more and I might want to convert to new stock.

If speculation on number of short postitions is even close, panic selling won't be enough to cover. Let the games continue...
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
off-topic apologies up front...

roiresearch!!!

I ask a huge favor of you... Can you take a look at the last 2 years chart of PLNI and post your opinion on what you think short positions are (on a PLNI thread)? The non-reporting pinks have had it worst of all, and there are so many red volume bars on PLNI. The float has been just over 2B. A/S recently increased, but did not affect float. 2M buyback in Dec '05, and it looks like some of that was used to decrease the float. Not sure if these stats are 100% accurate. I value your opinion.

If not, I understand.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
Sorry if I sound stupid, but Im new to the market. So from what Ive read, "it seems like a no lose situation?"??
It seems like if I was able to buy JHPC tomorrow at .001, I would get .005 after merger, is that right? and unless the price of APOA tanked before then, Id make some good money, am I wrong on this??
1 more question, unless I read wrong, it sounds like some r saying the MM's may try to run price up on JPHC to cover the short?
So again, if I got in at .001 and the ran it up to .003 or more to lessen that gap from merger ratio, I'd still make out big. Please tell me if Im understanding all this correctly?
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
Last question, does restricted mean u must stay in for 1-2 yrs before selling?
Unrestricted means you can sell anytime??

In the case noone is sure what they will do in merger agreement yet, only putting a portion of my available monies would be wise and not putting all into it?

thank you for help.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Chad, one thing is concrete - you can always lose your money on a pink, even on a no-lose situation.

We all have a lot of reading to do tonight.
 
Posted by weatherbill on :
 
The fact is, the MMs know a ton of people are selling tomorrow mornign for a loss becasue they know that people in do not want to hold for a year or two, so covering, yeah, they;ll do that easy.......wait till you see the panic selling tomorrow morning tanking this thing to .0003 or less even......thanx JPHC for tying up our money for 2 years......what a rip!
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
Have we confirmed it is a 2 year restricted period?
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
think mms were covering today? take a look at i-watch 6% retail, 94% non-iwatch transactions

http://thomson.finance.lycos.com/lycos/iwatch/cgi-bin/iw_ticker?ticker=JPHC
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
well, from reading, looks like its a definate 4 for 1 split. 4 JPHC = 1 APOA.
What will APOA 20 day avg market price be at, not sure. I'd say .01 to .015?
So buying say $10,000 of JPHC at .001 if possible, should net u $25,000 to $37,500 based on above.
does that seem right to everyone?
Even if u have to keep 1 to 2 yrs before selling, unless APOA tanked, a person should do ok from initial investment.

PS, when does JPHC ticker cease to exist or does it? and do u have to be a shareholder now to get conversion or can u still buy up to May 10th?
 
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
 
I told people the other night this could happen. My worst fears were realized.

Right now it is a good deal, but in a year APO could go from .02 to .0002 or from .02 to .20. It actually closed at .012 today.

They pretty much said they wanted out of the old business and are going to go through JPHC. It has some potential but chances are not good for huge increases. They could double revenue to 30 million but I am going to figure off the current 15 million just for giggles.

Ameritrade says curent OS is 56 million. Whoever said 25 billion AS probably isnt right. So going off the 56 million OS and a conversion of .25 on I think 2 billion of JPHC OS you are basically raising the OS to 550 million.

550 million OS with 15 million in JPHC revenues = rev/sh of .027. If they make 1 million in profit at 10 pe it would be a .018 cent stock.

If they can turn a profit and increase revenue this is a good deal for anyone willing to wait a year or two. I can see it hanging around a penny for a year or increasing with good news.

To lose money the pps would have to fall to 1/5 the current level, basically if the conversion changed to .01 it would have to slip to .002 to lose money.

I think it is a good long term hold if you can do that. I can't, so unless they announce it will be tradeable I will bow out.

There may be enough longs willing to eat up our shares if they aren't tradeable.

If my figures are off let me know any new info, I have to decide to hold or fold and would appreciate any info.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
think mms were covering today? take a look at i-watch 6% retail, 94% non-iwatch transactions

http://thomson.finance.lycos.com/lycos/iwatch/cgi-bin/iw_ticker?ticker=JPHC

Jmoove, what exactly does this mean?
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
I personally will hold until the end of the week! THat's my "gold" [Wink] (goal)!!! I don't think it's wise to make a quick decision with the yet --- don't have enough facts to sell or buy more for that matter!

You never know when a cop might be around the corner! Now your radar detected one... what does common sense tell us?!?!? SLow down and pay attention! If you sell first thing tomorrow --- that would be like shutting your car off with the keys in the ignition and running away! If you go and buy $10K worth would be like speeding up!!! People lets apply some common sense! Wait, find out the facts --- don't panic!

At this moment in time we have way to much possibilities we have to narrow it down --- lets all do our DD and wait a little!

THat's just my opinion --- i have a lot of money in this one (10.2 million) and i'm not in a mood for losing... so everyone take a chill pill and be a little patient!
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
After more analysis, to be it seems that the lower you were/are able to get JPHC at and the higher they value APOA at in 20 days the better.

More shares of JPHC equals more shares of APOA.

I looked at APOA and there 52 week low was .007 and high was .06.

Im sold. Even if I gotta keep a year. A 10G investment in JPHC at .001 would give me 10 million shares. Say coversion rate ends up at .01, I know have 25G. A 150% gain.

Now in 1 yrs time, APOA would have to fall to .004 for me to take a very minor loss. I personally dont see this happening, I think they'll probably go up, how much? maybe .03-.04. Opinion of course.

My only question now is, can I still buy and have my shares be coverted?? anyone know??
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
Don't listen to anyone on this board ! I knew someone here who work for JPHC and tried to get everybody to buy. Do your own homework.

Did JPHC hurt anyone ?

I heard everyone on this board said that JPHC will fly today, but it ran down to the hill.

I lost some money on JPHC last week but not today.

WHEN YOU EXPECT IT TOO MUCH, IT WILL NEVER RUN and make you unhappy.
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by weatherbill:
The fact is, the MMs know a ton of people are selling tomorrow mornign for a loss becasue they know that people in do not want to hold for a year or two, so covering, yeah, they;ll do that easy.......wait till you see the panic selling tomorrow morning tanking this thing to .0003 or less even......thanx JPHC for tying up our money for 2 years......what a rip!

yeah unfortunately i kinda agree, apparently this stock might be good stuff for our kids or grandkids.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
is it absolute fact that they are restricted or we just speculating?
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
I hope ur right Weatherbill and this thing does go down to .0003. I was figuring buying 10G of this at .001, but Id have 3x as many shares if I could buy that low.

To me its a no-brainer for anyone that doesnt need the money for 1 or 2 yrs. Stockholders will automatically make a big % gain after merger and if APOA goes up from intial price set, so does ur bank account.

U are getting 1 APOA for every 4 JPHC. Do the math, I did, and I honestly dont see how anyone can lose.

Not unless APOA goes under .004 in 1 or 2 yrs or people sell there shares now for a loss.
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
I am waiting to buy 10M at .0003
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
is it absolute fact that they are restricted or we just speculating?

As far as I know - still speculation.

One thing is clear - all JPHC stock will be surrendered and cease to exist. Any shorts have to cover. Still have trouble wrapping my brain around the 'negative float' scenario.

Look for announcement of a lock-in date.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
im debating on whether or not i should sell tomorrow to pick up a lower price. i bought in at .0006 so i dont know if its really worth it, kinda imbetween.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
Too all JPHC stockholders, if I buy JPHC tomorrow, do I still get the stock transfer? or do u have to be a stockholder as of today?

Not sure how it works?
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jdg257:
quote:
Originally posted by Jmoove:
think mms were covering today? take a look at i-watch 6% retail, 94% non-iwatch transactions

http://thomson.finance.lycos.com/lycos/iwatch/cgi-bin/iw_ticker?ticker=JPHC

Jmoove, what exactly does this mean?
ditto, never used this before

I compared some other symbols and nothing came close to JPHC pie chart. Even PAIM (don't bash me) was over 20% retail today.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
It seems like people think this will go down in morning, so if u can sell at .008, go for it, then hope people are right and it falls and you can buy back for lower price.
but I have no idea what this will do, I just hope it goes lower for a better buy.
I see it going down to 5 or 6 as a low.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chad:
Too all JPHC stockholders, if I buy JPHC tomorrow, do I still get the stock transfer? or do u have to be a stockholder as of today?

Not sure how it works?

You can still buy.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
sweet, thx Tick. Well, I plan on being a JPHC stockholder tomorrow. Hate to sell some RSHN to do it, but this is to good to pass up.

The lower I can buy at, the more shares I get, the more APOA shares I'll have. The more money I can make.

Good Luck to all holders, may we all lay in the GREEN grass. lol
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
I called the ir number listed at the bottom of the 8k that was put out today. The number is 1-800-963-6532. I spoke with Glen. He said the shares are restricted. They fall under SEC Rule 144. They will be restricted for 1 year. After 1 year you will be able to trade a portion based on trading patterns of the stock. After two years they will be free trading shares. This is what I was told by jphc ir. If you believe it or not is for you decide. Thats why i put the number up for anyone to call. I am long in this stock and I am very disapointed in the news today. Hopefully it will smooth out and we will be ok. If not chalk up another to the pinks. TMAN...
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
a 500% return is not bad for 2 years. If it dips lower tomorrow on a sell off I will buy more for a higher return in 2 years. I think it is very much worth it.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chad:
Too all JPHC stockholders, if I buy JPHC tomorrow, do I still get the stock transfer? or do u have to be a stockholder as of today?

Anyone having stock in their hand when the conversion takes place.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
im debating on whether or not i should sell tomorrow to pick up a lower price. i bought in at .0006 so i dont know if its really worth it, kinda imbetween.

lol, you sound like me, years ago. Your pps is good now, and we can't know what will happen 2 seconds later. I get around this by using new money at a lower pps, then selling the old money after it ticks back up+comm+dinner or keep both buys. You never have to worry about being out. If I don't have the new money, I just let it stand as is.

Not that I think anyone is going to get left behind in the morning, I wish. GL
 
Posted by DQ. on :
 
2 years...balony. I look for a gap at open.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
Mustang, i dont see whr u see a 500% return in 2 yrs? help me out.

All I see if a 4 for 1 split. The price of JPHC seems to not matter, just what u bought at (lower for more profit), what matters is what the deem the value of APOA over the next 20 days is.

Example: 10 million JPHC shares is 2500 million shares of APOA. (at price to be determined)
my guess is .01 to .015.

The % gain would be whatever you bought JPHC at and then what the price of APOA would be at and how many shares ud have.

Finally, what APOA does over next 2 yrs. It could go up from the intial pricing or down, however, it would have to go down by Id say 75% of the intial price setting to loss any money.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Thanks, tman. That just double-taps both companies.

I'll hold onto this as planned, but my darker/realist side is telling me that the parent company can be bought soon for 1 or 2 ticks. otcbb is no protection from the same MMs getting squeezed on a pink. Parent company must be nuts.
 
Posted by DrWho on :
 
For those who keep quoting the 'restricted shares' scenario, and Im sure the truth will come out soon in a PR OR with other people calling on the 8-K for clarification.

Why would CEO Hawkins make a deal for ALL of his shares to be restricted for 1 year in a 'parent' company that he will have NO Control in? Previous PR's this year have stated that he is spinning off Livestar and giving Dividends to JPHC shareholders.

Whether that comes true or not, Hawkins has focussed on getting OUT of JPHC, and I kind of doubt he wants HIS proceeds to be restricted for 1 years.

All of their shares are COMMON Stock... that is the question to me that comes to mind in regards to this deal. With previous PR's saying there were more than one buyer in the mix, if he couldnt take his proceeds out after the merger, I think he could have gotten a better deal at .004 cash, versus .005 'restricted APO stock'.

PLUS, I wonder if his shares can NOW BE UNRESTRICTED in JPHC... and cash in on the coming Short Squeeze.

The Doctor
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Check this out from apoa....ACTIONS BY BOARD OF
DIRECTORS AND
CONSENTING STOCKHOLDERS


The following corporate actions were authorized by unanimous written consent of the Board of Directors of the Company on April 7, 2006, and subsequently approved by written consent of holders entitled to vote a majority of the shares of Common Stock of the Company on April 7, 2006:

1. The approval of an amendment to the Company’s Articles of Incorporation to change the Company’s corporate name to Paivis, Corp. ; and


2. The approval of an amendment to the Company’s Articles of Incorporation to increase the number of authorized shares of the Company’s Common Stock from 125,000,000 to 25,000,000,000 shares and authorized 15,000,000 shares of Preferred Stock.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
Dr. Who that is a really good point. this is really a sticky situation. GLTA
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Dr. Who, since they became unreporting isnt it possible that he dumped his shares on the market. Since they dont report neither should he. correct?
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
Warning to all, even myself. We dont know what the avg closing price will be over the 20 dyas prior to closing date. The wider the gap from where u bought JPHC at and where the closing price ends up the better. Then you start off with a big % gain.

However, if lets say the price of APOA goes down to on avg of .005. If you bought ur JPHC at say .001, then ur % gain would be very minimal.

It all basically depends on ur JPHC buy price and the closing price of APOA.

All in all, I think things look good.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
AGREEMENT AND PLAN OF MERGER dated as of April 21, 2006 (the “Agreement”) by and amongst APO Health, Inc., a Nevada corporation (“ PARENT ”), APO Health Acquisition Corp., a Nevada corporation (“ SUB ”) and Jupiter Global Holdings, Corp., a Nevada corporation (“ TARGET ”). PARENT, SUB and TARGET are each referred to herein individually as a “ Party ” and collectively as the “ Parties .”
ARTICLE I
THE MERGER


SECTION 1.01 THE MERGER


Upon the terms and subject to the conditions set forth in this Agreement and in accordance with the statutes of the State of Nevada, at the Effective Time (as defined herein), SUB shall be merged with and into TARGET, the separate existence of SUB shall cease and TARGET shall continue as the surviving entity of the Merger (where appropriate, the “Surviving Entity”).


Sounds like JPHC stays...TMAN...
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
yes TMAN JPHC does stay. its a funny merger. APO will merge into JPHC but APO will have control. APOA has a terrible name. If u read the history it is pretty ugly, full of lawsuits and some debt here and there. One thing to consider is that if the CEO and crew ran APOA into the ground then what is stopping them from running Macrosouth into the ground?
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
SECTION 3.02 CAPITALIZATION


The authorized capital stock of TARGET consists of 10,000,000,000 shares of common stock, $0.0001 par value per share, and 500,000,000 shares of preferred stock, $.0001 par value per share. As of the date of this Agreement, there were approximately 9,907,123,955 shares of common stock issued and outstanding, and there were 200,000,002 shares of preferred stock issued and outstanding.


No wonder we couldnt move up. TMAN... ps. the more i read the more i get pizzed
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DrWho:
For those who keep quoting the 'restricted shares' scenario, and Im sure the truth will come out soon in a PR OR with other people calling on the 8-K for clarification.

Why would CEO Hawkins make a deal for ALL of his shares to be restricted for 1 year in a 'parent' company that he will have NO Control in? Previous PR's this year have stated that he is spinning off Livestar and giving Dividends to JPHC shareholders.

Whether that comes true or not, Hawkins has focussed on getting OUT of JPHC, and I kind of doubt he wants HIS proceeds to be restricted for 1 years.

All of their shares are COMMON Stock... that is the question to me that comes to mind in regards to this deal. With previous PR's saying there were more than one buyer in the mix, if he couldnt take his proceeds out after the merger, I think he could have gotten a better deal at .004 cash, versus .005 'restricted APO stock'.

PLUS, I wonder if his shares can NOW BE UNRESTRICTED in JPHC... and cash in on the coming Short Squeeze.

The Doctor

Well, now. I was wondering where you were, Doc. Is your group still holding? I was thinking the same thing, I kinda like Hawkins and hope the best for him.

I kinda like tman, too, and don't doubt for a nano-second that he called and then posted the response for us as accurately as possible. Do you think Glen lied to him?

I kinda don't like the slew of APOA S8s, both common and preferred. And I kinda don't like the fact that I have done dd on APOA in the past and, for some unusual reason, I put no notations in my meticulous files and never revisited it.

I'm down for the ride, though, like it or not.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
SECTION 3.02 CAPITALIZATION


The authorized capital stock of TARGET consists of 10,000,000,000 shares of common stock, $0.0001 par value per share, and 500,000,000 shares of preferred stock, $.0001 par value per share. As of the date of this Agreement, there were approximately 9,907,123,955 shares of common stock issued and outstanding, and there were 200,000,002 shares of preferred stock issued and outstanding.


No wonder we couldnt move up. TMAN... ps. the more i read the more i get pizzed

Been wating for someone to discover that one.
 
Posted by DrWho on :
 
To be totally honest, the APO shares we are gauranteed are leverage... leverage to stay until we can see if there is INDEED a massive short squeeze to occur. Even if nothing happens, the potential for a 5 banger in a REPORTING OTBCC company that now has DOUBLED its revenues with Macro (15 billion) is not bad to use as a last resort.

My goal is the pennies in JPHC... and the more we squeeze the Shorts come May 7-10... the more chance this will happen.

The Doctor
 
Posted by DrWho on :
 
And yes, the crew of longs is still hanging out until the end. We still own the float ourselves... everyone else above that is GRAVY!

The Doctor
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Since I dont know how many here called today and found out about the stock, I have this question. How do you trade unregistered stock?

The Merger Agreement provides that the Issuable Shares will not be registered under the Securities Act, or the securities laws of any state, and absent an exemption from registration contained in such laws, cannot be transferred, hypothecated, sold or otherwise disposed of until; (i) a registration statement with respect to such securities is declared effective under the Securities Act, or (ii) APO receives an opinion of counsel for APO that an exemption from the registration requirements of the Securities Act is available.
If they were going to let us trade why would they not say they were registered and ready to trade?
just curious and still pizzed. TMAN...
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Not too many ways to read this:

quote:
The Merger Agreement provides that the Issuable Shares will not be registered under the Securities Act, or the securities laws of any state, and absent an exemption from registration contained in such laws, cannot be transferred, hypothecated, sold or otherwise disposed of until; (i) a registration statement with respect to such securities is declared effective under the Securities Act, or (ii) APO receives an opinion of counsel for APO that an exemption from the registration requirements of the Securities Act is available.
There are two options on the table here to get our presently restricted stock turned magically into ordinary stock - either one of which would make this stock hit .005 in a heartbeat
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
Since I dont know how many here called today and found out about the stock, I have this question. How do you trade unregistered stock?

The Merger Agreement provides that the Issuable Shares will not be registered under the Securities Act, or the securities laws of any state, and absent an exemption from registration contained in such laws, cannot be transferred, hypothecated, sold or otherwise disposed of until; (i) a registration statement with respect to such securities is declared effective under the Securities Act, or (ii) APO receives an opinion of counsel for APO that an exemption from the registration requirements of the Securities Act is available.
If they were going to let us trade why would they not say they were registered and ready to trade?
just curious and still pizzed. TMAN...

Read up on it here:

http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/rule144.htm
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
So they are keeping the JPHC ticker?
After the closing date, does APOA ticker cease and their price at that time goes to JPHC?
Now Im getting a bit confused.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
CHAD:
That would be my return if APOA stays where it is on merger day.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
POSTED THIS CHART ON 4/22:
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Now wouldn't this be a coinky-dink
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
just a shake to cover their shorts. Could they have been shorting yesterday at the 12-14 range and now they are trying to cover by taking it lower?
 
Posted by bmwboyee on :
 
u will see a huge shake of the tree tomorrow. don't fall for it
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
why is that labeled november 2005?
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
what?
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Maybe we test the SMA's tomorrow - still on track to get a bullish 50/200 cross. Do you believe in miracles?

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=JPHC&p=D&yr=0&mn=2&dy=0&id=p69071999887
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
what do u all think a good buy price will be to get into tomorrow? maybe it will see .006??
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
what labeled november 2005 sbrcow
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
why is that labeled november 2005?

It was the only timeframe I could use where JPHC traded in between .0033 and under .001

I was exepcting a different reaction to today's news - weren't most of us  -
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
the chart on page 54 by roire....its oct/nov 2005
i just noticing things =/
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Hey ticktrader and Dr. Who, do yall know each other? both of yall are from Wasilla, Alaska. Just wondering? TMAN...
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DrWho:
And yes, the crew of longs is still hanging out until the end. We still own the float ourselves... everyone else above that is GRAVY!

The Doctor

Doc, thanks for your honesty in your previous post. If you guys hold, then at least I won't be choking on thin air alone.

But I gotta tell ya, Doc, APOA is really hanging it in the wind with this one. Want me to steer you to FULLY REPORTING OTCBB companies that can be picked up for .0001?

On a side note, tman... better to post the link with anything you post sectionalized. It doesn't tell the whole story if you do that.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
has the dog posted anything on the other web page?
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Tick, the 8k is there for all to read. What was posted was taken directly from the 8k. Each section had the section number as well for folks to read themselves. BTW as I said earlier I am long and I dont bash stocks. There are plenty that I could but its useless. The info posted here needs to be seen by all so that they can start to research for themselves what has happened so that they can make an informed decision as to whether they sell, buy more, or hold. Have a nice evening. TMAN...
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
He said he will not post on JPHC again.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
He states that he wont post anymore on the board because of all the crap people said after the news. Dont blame him. All he did was give a heads up on news and gets hammered. TMAN...
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
Hey ticktrader and Dr. Who, do yall know each other? both of yall are from Wasilla, Alaska. Just wondering? TMAN...

Tman, the Doc is down with Mesa, Arizona. That's too far away for me to open the window and shout.

hey guys, roiresearch has been ghosting current daily activity with previous charts. Didn't you realize this? The similarity has been unnerving - well, until today, which was more like unhinging.

geez, roi, you are good at charting.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Hey Tick did you see my question about you and Doc living in the same town in Alaska? that is pretty cool that both of yall are from there. I wish I knew some traders that lived in or around my town of cleveland tx.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
people bashed HIM? sobs... somebody who gets good info, and people bash him. He never said buy buy u will be rich, he just provided info for interested people!
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
my bad...TMAN...
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 

 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
Maybe I'm just crapping in one hand and wishing in the other (I can tell which feels more real). But I think we should have a turn around tomorrow. Hopefully
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
DC17 let the cat out of the bag today. Looking back and using hindsight, he dropped the "restricted" stock quote an hour or two before the PR hit about a stock deal/merger

I do believe (somewhat) that his inside knowledge lead him to great profits. If not, he shouldn't be playing with as much fire as he is posting with. I sensed remorse in his pre 3 o'clock PR warning about potential for a deal in restricted stock.

And as soon as you accuse him of any wrong doing, he writes these heart wrenching posts looking for sympathy. I know people like that. When it's good, they will take all the credit/reward. As soon as the sh!T hits the fan, it's everyone elses' fault. RB is better off w/o DC17 for the time being
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
quote:


hey guys, roiresearch has been ghosting current daily activity with previous charts. Didn't you realize this? The similarity has been unnerving - well, until today, which was more like unhinging.

geez, roi, you are good at charting. [/QB]

I expect the stock to bounce off of the 50 or 200 SMA tomorrow and then try to stabalize back to the .0008 - .001 level. As soon as the nervous nellies flee, hopefully we can take a crack at .0014 again.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
ya honestly roire, he must have made so much money. its like playing poker and knowing what the other person has. I wish trading was that easy =P
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
I read that post too roiresearch and thought of the conversation I had here with Jumpem about how the shares may be structured. Oh well, hopefully things are darkest before the dawn. TMAN...
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
still haven' sold

but i am long a boat load at .00046

still up, but i'd rather be up as much as i was at .0014 [Wink]
 
Posted by ATL8ball on :
 
It is now a new day and I have decided to stop kicking myself for the cancelled sell order at 14...Live and Learn...

I am holding till a little closer to 5/10...let's see how this all shakes out
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Only 8:30 here, gotta go do the family thing...
GLe1
 
Posted by edgewise on :
 
i bought in right at the end of day, at .0009.
i'm expecting it to gap to .0010x.0011.
my sell order is set at .0010.
there was so much buying at the end of day, and virtually no selling in that last minute, so i'm thinking it was a big shake for a minute, then it'll gap and fall a little more tomorrow.

either i made a really good decision to buy on the fly, or i made a really bad decision.. less than 9 hours till i get to find out.
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
I found this to be a bit informative:

Merger Arbitrage
Another of the classic hedge strategies is to buy the stock of a company that is being taken over in a merger, while shorting the stock of the company that is buying them. In this case the details of the merger are known in advance, for instance company A may offer 10 shares of their own stock for every 8 of company B, which they are purchasing. Given the current market values, the dollar amounts of the takeover bid can be calculated, and the spread between current value and the announced takeover value can be calculated. If the current stock price is below the takeover value, the deal is said to be "in the money".

The hedge in this case is to remove the risk that the takeover will fail. For instance if company B rejects the takeover bid, their stock price will typically fall to its original value, or lower. The same however is also true of company A, whose perceived value will drop as a result of failing in their venture. Therefore the hedging opportunity is to purchase shares of company B (if it is in the money), and short the shares of company A. This way some profit will be made in either case, with the spread disappearing and creating a profit on the long position, while in the case of the deal breaking down the losses on the long position will be hedged out by the gains on the short when the shares of company A fall.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
people bashed HIM? sobs... somebody who gets good info, and people bash him. He never said buy buy u will be rich, he just provided info for interested people!

Thats how it is with money, and why some people here stopped posting picks as much. Everyone wants to be rich last week.
 
Posted by ATL8ball on :
 
I am averaged in at 10 and would like to see 11+
 
Posted by ATL8ball on :
 
Oh how I would like to see 11
 
Posted by db on :
 
I just experienced the TWOG merger (made money thank god) this is different-I was worried about this pr today so been reading all the posts here and on RB and believe this is a big shake by MM's and massive shorting go read the crap on RB it will make you want to hold your shares - don't sell - wait - on RB it's so obvious they want you to sell cause they know thier screwed - it's like the old saying "hit dog hollers" I can hold and sell prior to a set date - everything I see shows to wait and weather this until at least more news or until the last moment.
 
Posted by Porsche on :
 
I sold GWGO today to buy this at .0012...ouch.
Anyways, I do not see a reason to sell. If you listen to people on the boards here they are talking about buying tomm. And the MM's have to cover so they are going to be buying.

This is like the captain of a ship saying we have a hole on the boat and then everyone jumped off. No one let him finish and say that it was the size of a pen tip and it is all fixed.

As long as they have to cover and people are looking to buy we are all good.
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
Someone on another website board posted this. It seems to make very good sense and organizes my views of things a bit. I will definately hold to see what happens.

We have all speculated on what might happen. Or more aptly...on what we WANT to happen. Here are the facts of this situation.

This is what is called a "Type B Reorganization."

This is a stock for stock exchange. This transaction does not involve a merger. Rather, in this transaction, a disposition of stock by the seller, with the buyer using only its own stock as consideration. The acquiring company (APOA) will exchange solely its voting stock for target company (JPHC) stock held by target company shareholders. The result is the acquiring company owns the stock of the target company, with the target company being a controlled subsidiary corporation.

The acquiring company will be paying the JPHC shareholders a price equal to $.005 per share of JPHC stock in APOA stock. The ratio will vary based on apoa pps. Bottom line is...you will get that valuation.

At some point...very close to May 10, 2006, JPHC share trading will be halted. After that time, ALL shares will be accounted for to determine shareholders of record. All outstanding shares, (shorted shares) will be required to be reconciled by the brokers and market makers handling those shares at the price of $.005 per share. They WILL NOT be able to reconcile those shares with shares of APOA. The shares of APOA will at this point be unregisterd shares, and thus subject to rule 144. I say AT THIS POINT because a final agreemnet has not been disclosed to the public. So based on that, here is something to consider.

The general interpretation of Rule 144, requires a person to hold restricted stock for a continuous period of one year. After one year selling is limited to a % of daily volume during the second year. Year three and beyond...go for it...no restrictions. Now..with that being said, the company CAN apply for an exemption to unrestrict the shares. More than likely that won't happen...but ya never know.

The reason the shares would be restricted is to protect both the company AND the shareholder. To prevent massive dilution, which we all know will cause the pps to crash and burn. It also protects the shareholder from unexpected tax liabilities.

I and many, many others believe there is a massive short position in this stock. Several things we know for sure.

1) We will get $.005 value for each share of JPHC.
2) If shares are shorted...they will have to be covered.
3) If shares are not covered by trading halt, coverage will be at $.005 per share. Market Makers and Brokerage firms are responsible for the covering of shorted shares...they can go after the individuals involved.

Now comes the fun part...and this is all IMO.

As more and more people become aware of this acquisition, and the base value per share, we will see countless bashers and pumpers all trying to make a quick buck. We will see an influx of flippers and day traders as the final days count down. Shorts will be looking for cheap shares to cover...flippers and day traders will be looking for momentum to drive up the pps so they can make a quick buck on the retrace...then they will try it again. As the "day" gets closer...REAL shares will have a premium value to the shorts, as they must account for all transactions with either REAL shares or REAL money. Thus...people holding REAL shares can expect to see a buying frenzy in the final days. Then you see the flippers and day traders once again trying to drive up pps...looking for that one last nickel. This is why so many feel the pps CAN go well above the $.005 price. Bottom line is this. Once shares stop trading...if you hold shares of JPHC...they will be worth $.005 per share of APOA stock.

...play it by ear...you may want to hold and take the buyout...you may want to "squeeze" a little and see just how high the pps can go.
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
no one would care about this deal if apoa was in decent shape.. and i don't believe they are..

what scares me most is the lack of volume in trades.. if i knew i could get rid of my shares i'd be sleeping well.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
APOA isnt playing the medical field anymore. if you read the merger announcement they pretty much say they are changing their business plan and are acquiring JPHC for macrosouth....think of it like this. your getting shares of macrosouth =)
 
Posted by wildweb on :
 
I dont usually post but I will tell you this much, good luck to all who are holding long...I am holding 1,000,000 shares and if it goes down to .0005 I will be a holder of 10,000,000 shares...So F the MM's, I am not worried, and I will put my money where my mouth is, if anything, it will shut me up for those who dont want to hear the sensible decision.........HOLD, HOLD, HOLD, and then we will all thank our decision to hold, hold, hold, while others damn themselves by thinking, SELL, SELL, SELL....If anyone wants to sell to me if it get below .0004 let me know....I will eat them up for ya!

Like a captain, I will sink with the ship or ride with the tide....For some reason I think the longs will ride with the tide.....

P.S. Come on MM's leave it alone and let it ride ;-)

Good luck all!
 
Posted by daytrader1 on :
 
can any guru over here help me explain if http://www.nasd.com/web/groups/rules_regs/documents/notice_to_members/nasdw_0164 18.pdf will have any effect on JPHC stock? TIA
 
Posted by edgewise on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yolkarmy:

what scares me most is the lack of volume in trades.. if i knew i could get rid of my shares i'd be sleeping well.

Maybe its lack of trades is a good thing.
I mean, look at all the crazy pumps that exist, and notice that they're sitting at next-to-no volume for the previous days or weeks.
Maybe all the excitement that comes with this acquisition will cause the parent stock to sky-rocket for some reason, and then we'll all be huge winners, albeit a year or 2 from now when we'd be able to sell.

I think today's EOD move was a MM tactic, and I think it'll come right back up very soon, as people get a grip on what the reality is here.
It was a panic sell, IMO. People who hadn't read the news yet just saw the pps falling, and decided to get out, or it triggered a ton of the new stop-loss orders that came in as the price had risen earlier in the day.

Just my thoughts.
 
Posted by 2fstws6 on :
 
Does anyone think this will go back to .0014 today.Iam in at .0012 with 400k shares and trying to figure out my best position. [Confused]
 
Posted by BallBallmon on :
 
IMO
I believe it will dip tomolo,so MM can get more share. Hopefully it will up when PR release it is not restricted... since so many confusion now
I am in at 0.0012 too .....
 
Posted by 2fstws6 on :
 
Looks like a lot of people here got in at 0012 and above.By just reading the PR it sounds like we will be ok,but wheh you read all the post about this and that and what can happen you just get overwhelmed with negativity.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Well... how's everyone feeling this morning? I feel like Dead Man Walking.
 
Posted by BallBallmon on :
 
I feel hopeless after the PR yesterday
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
My prediction for the day... open at .0007, touch down to .0005, close at .0006.
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
I have no idea what to do. If the restricted status is true then I am leaning toward selling.
 
Posted by Soul_beyond on :
 
APO Health, Inc. and JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Announce Signing of Definitive Agreement and Plan of Merger
Tuesday April 25, 3:11 pm ET

OCEANSIDE, NY--(MARKET WIRE)--Apr 25, 2006 -- APO Health, Inc. ("APO") (OTC BB:APOA.OB - News) and JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER") (Other OTC:JPHC.PK - News) today jointly announced their execution of a Definitive Agreement and Plan of Merger (the "Merger Agreement") pursuant to which APO has agreed, through a wholly owned subsidiary, to acquire 100% of the issued and outstanding common shares of JUPITER, and JUPITER has agreed, at the closing of the transaction, to become a wholly owned subsidiary of APO. As consideration in the merger transaction, APO has agreed to exchange shares of its common stock ("the Issuable Shares") with JUPITER's shareholders at an exchange ratio, which is subject to adjustment under the Merger Agreement that values the JUPITER shares at $0.005 per common share.

Jan Stahl, the Chief Executive Officer of APO, commented, "APO is making a shift in its business future and JUPITER, and primarily its subsidiary, Macro Communications, Inc. (www.macrosouth.com), presented the best opportunity for us to build a significant operation under a new direction for our shareholders. Our aim was to chart a new course for APO that would result in accelerated growth and increased shareholder value. The challenges we have experienced in growing our health subsidiary prompted the development of our plan for change that included a process of looking for opportunities outside of the health industry and ultimately develop a business with holdings that could provide for significant value creation. Macro Communications, Inc. is a business that we believe has vast potential. It is currently a multimillion dollar operation that has a business plan which includes other acquisition candidates and a comprehensive strategy for growth and profit generation. We look forward to welcoming the JUPITER shareholders as APO shareholders and feel very strongly on the new combined entities moving forward."

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Ray Hawkins, the Chief Executive Officer of JUPITER, commented further, "The execution of this agreement results from a diligently prepared and successfully executed plan that we had implemented to move JUPITER forward for the future growth of the company, and ultimately for the enhancement of value for the JUPITER shareholders. APO is a solid company which currently is a multimillion dollar operation, and we feel this merger provides a great opportunity for our shareholders' growth prospects. We are very pleased with the valuation that we received from APO and feel it is fair for our shareholders. We look forward to the consummation of this transaction and setting things in motion to develop a new path of success for the combined corporations."

The parties have agreed to use their best efforts to consummate the transaction by May 10, 2006, or as soon as practicable thereafter.

The Merger Agreement will be filed by APO as an exhibit to a Current Report on Form 8-K with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission as required. The Merger Agreement contains certain conditions precedent to consummation of the merger, including but not limited to, obtaining consents, providing certified lists of shareholders and delivery of certain due diligence and other corporate documents. The Merger Agreement provides that the Issuable Shares will not be registered under the Securities Act, or the securities laws of any state, and absent an exemption from registration contained in such laws, cannot be transferred, hypothecated, sold or otherwise disposed of until; (i) a registration statement with respect to such securities is declared effective under the Securities Act, or (ii) APO receives an opinion of counsel for APO that an exemption from the registration requirements of the Securities Act is available.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
JEFF & FRAN * .0009 on the bid

What don't people get

If you own 1 million shares of JPHC today at .0009, that equals $900

On the day the deal is final and you receive your APOA stock, it will be worth $5,000

1 million * .005 = $5,000

The amount of shares you own is dependent upon the price of APOA 20 days preceding the transation
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I agree Chris.

APOA needs to come out with 2 things to save the day:

1. Some blockbuster PR about a new contract, revenues, something that illustrates they are not another OTC POS.

2. Unrestrict those shares.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Good morning folks. How did everyone sleep. After several rounds of self medication I finaly had a decent nights sleep, and didn't think about JPHC once. Back to reality, HOLDING at avg. .0007 per share, I have been in worse shape.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Roire, should I cancel my sell order for .0008?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Cottonjim, not only did I not sleep, but I burnt down my neighbor's house in frustration.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Roire, should I cancel my sell order for .0008?

If you want to sell, keep your limit even though there are 3 mm's on the bid at .0009

If you want to risk losing .0001, than that is your call. Good Luck
 
Posted by BallBallmon on :
 
it all depend on APOA, what happen it drop down to 0.0001
if the share is unrestrict, probably lot of ppl will dump their share. So price will drop no matter what.

please correct me if I am wrong
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Cottonjim, not only did I not sleep, but I burnt down my neighbor's house in frustration.

ROFLMAO, who's more frustrated now, you or your neighbors?
 
Posted by 2fstws6 on :
 
Okay guys real new to all this and confused?? Roire are you saying that my 416K shares I bought yesterday at .0012 are going to be worth .005 on 5/10? If that is the case why is everyone wanting to sell now???? What happens with our exsisting shares of JPHC at the time of recieving the new shares, will they be added to the current pps of what we own now in JPHC or will the be diluted and we just own shares in APOA?
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
JEFF & FRAN * .0009 on the bid

What don't people get

If you own 1 million shares of JPHC today at .0009, that equals $900

On the day the deal is final and you receive your APOA stock, it will be worth $5,000

1 million * .005 = $5,000

The amount of shares you own is dependent upon the price of APOA 20 days preceding the transation

Exactly what I have figured - so that would mean that the stock would have to lose 80+ % to incur a loss.

Good post.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
3 at .0009 and shrinking.
 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
repo, the 3 at nine just got on the bid, so its growing, and stop your whining it really irritating, if you want to sell, do it and move on, no one is going to tell you what to do with your shares!
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Based on the .02 figure announced in last nights 8k, APOA will be issuing less than 2.5 billion shares for all of JPHC stock.

Who know how many other acquisitions APOA may be making. APOA had $12 million in rev's on their own. JPHC will have around $20 million. Combined should be around $30 million or so.

What happens if APOA keeps acquiring prepaid wireless/telecom/voip companies with the remaining 22.5 billion shares a/s? Could make for a fun year if the stock remains unregistered.

If they chose to register the stock, we'll all be getting out of Dodge real soon - LOL
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Pre-market does not look that bad actually. Today may shape up to be a decent say. Roire, you hit the nail on the head, I would like to see a statement from APO regarding the tradability of their shares. I am not that interested in having all that money tied up for 3 years in restricted shares.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Here's my quick take.

There were 3 kind of traders yesterday

1) Very experienced traders who saw the PR and realized it wasn't an ideal situation, got out at 12-14 for some profit.

2) People like me who have learned a lot from these boards but would still consider myself pretty inexperienced in situations like this, who realized the negatives in the PR, but at a point that I thought was too late to get out at a good point. I am holding 100% of my 10 million shares for a while.

3) People who saw others selling and panicked and sold.

I think regardless of how the merger will work (restricted, unrestricted, etc) others will see the PR and over the next 2 weeks or so drive the price up well past .0014. As I said yestedray, selling at the close yesterday and any time in the next few days I think is the only way to be sure you're going ot lose money. Selling at .0012-.0014 was onviously the right move, as you can get back in cheaper this mornign if you so desire.

So basically, I think the only bad decision here is to sell this in the next couple of days.

Obviously this is just my opinion, but I truly believe that my 10mil shares will soon be worth significantly more than I paid for them.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Don't tell me to stop whining! THIS ISN'T PUMPERS R US! So screw you and the horse you rode in on!

And don't tell me about MM's and the bid!

There are now 2 on the bid! 2 is less than 3 according to my Math! It's shrinking!

Prepare to open at .0007 real quick!
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Optimism kicks A$$.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
It's building heavy at 8
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Just a quick reminder to anyone who doesn't know or has forgotten, Level 2's at pink sheets. *** is a paid service. MM's know this and they are the artist painting the picture that they want people to see. What is going on there does not necessarily reflect total reality. People are not buying and selling off chunks of their stock at 5000 or 10000 shares at a crack. MM signals to each other.
 
Posted by dale on :
 
If I sell and get back in latter today will I still be eligable to get the divi.When is the cutoff, thanks
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
there is no divi
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Divi??? You mean APOA shares?

I assume the record date is May 30.
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
Pcola,

Are you leaning toward selling prior to the merger?
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Gonna open at the 50 SMA

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=JPHC&p=D&yr=0&mn=2&dy=0&id=p36283731286
 
Posted by dale on :
 
yes the apoa shares ,sorry new at this
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
.0007 on the bid.

Mirror trading already!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Again, this is exactly like TWOG for me and I cannot wait one yr or 2 waiting.

As for me I bought mostly X .0004 so I will wait a little longer to see what happens to the pps. I will not run through the exchange if they are RESTRICTED.

THose of you who do hold IMO I think you will make very nice profits. Time is not on my side. Good luck to each's own trading style and always protect your capital.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
They are just trying now to cover their shorts.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
No offense, but if you are new at this I'd recommend a different stock there is too much going on with this one to just throw money in blindly.

quote:
Originally posted by dale:
yes the apoa shares ,sorry new at this


 
Posted by Jmoove on :
 
going to be bouncing alllll over the place today, play the bounces
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
Did you know JPHC is scammer ? Yes !!!!! Yes !!!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mustang21112:
They are just trying now to cover their shorts.

Exactly. That is the only rhyme or reason why this is declining, IMO.
 
Posted by Soylent Green on :
 
Sure as hell beats scratch off lottery tickets!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Holy sheet look at the buys coming in.
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
lets screw those shorts and buy the hell out this stock lol i think we are going to have a bumpy ride untill 10th of may imo..this can go to everywhere
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
No offense, but if you are new at this I'd recommend a different stock there is too much going on with this one to just throw money in blindly.

quote:
Originally posted by dale:
yes the apoa shares ,sorry new at this


Ya, buy some PAIM instead - it is a gaurantee that PAIM PPS will stay constant, and will forever remain at .0001

lol
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I would say that depends pretty heavily on confirming wether the shares are restricted or not. If they are, then yeah, I'll get out when I reach a nice profit. If they are not, I'll keep an eye on APOs price.


quote:
Originally posted by Chris4205:
Pcola,

Are you leaning toward selling prior to the merger?


 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
166mill in first 3 mins. [Smile] [Smile]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Only 1 on the ask.. UBSS, the shortest one of them all.
 
Posted by BallBallmon on :
 
so many dumping
[Frown]
 
Posted by stockinthemud on :
 
The MMs have no choice but to cover their shorts by May 10th, right? So doesn't that mean, if we hold on to our shares, they have no choice but to run it up to entice people into selling? Am I understanding this right?
If that's the case, they'll probably keep it low to scare people into selling, then run it up the last few days, I would guess. That's what happened with TWOG, also, although that was a dividend, not a buyout.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
It's buying, not dumping.. thank GOd.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Are we watching the same stock??? TONS of buys right now.

quote:
Originally posted by BallBallmon:
so many dumping
[Frown]


 
Posted by MB on :
 
almost all BUYS this morning.
 
Posted by BallBallmon on :
 
sorry is 6 in western
damn fat finger
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
You're right. I just wish we knew how short they are.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
So did any of you guys sell?

By the way, 200million+ traded in 10 minutes.

There's a reason for that.

I still believe.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BallBallmon:
so many dumping
[Frown]

Get your eyes checked my friend.
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
Tons of buys yet no raise in pps, they must be soooo short...I have 4.5 mil. NOT sold!
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
So did any of you guys sell?

By the way, 200million+ traded in 10 minutes.

There's a reason for that.

I still believe.

I have not yet. I keep changing my mind ever y 5 minutes.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Pert joining the party selling at .0008

grrrr
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Still holding my 5 mil.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
STAY STRONG
 
Posted by buzzygresham on :
 
0008's are solid
 
Posted by stockinthemud on :
 
I don't care how low they push it. I have 7 mil at .0008, and I think it will have to shoot up the last week before the deal goes through. I'm holding out for 100% profit.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
.0006's coming.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
Yep, interesting day so far. All buys, then all sells? Its possible we had lots of sells at the ask when it was at 8. There is a good chance, knowing how people are in the market, that shorts will be covered simply by panick sells.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
wow, i don't think it's the MM's anymore.. ppl are just selling
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
No reason this should be down ticking, dso obvious what the mm's are doing...200 million volume of buys then a downtick....they are scared ****less!!
 
Posted by BallBallmon on :
 
strong at 8 at the begining
keep looking
look interesting
 
Posted by buzzygresham on :
 
i dontget this stock. going down??? how far down does it go?
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
You're right. I just wish we knew how short they are.

Hey repo, glad you didn't panic sell. Remember, we got in this for the squeeze, and there always is one - we just don't know how high it will go. Unless you want to convert, be out at least 3 days before conversion. The date may move up, based on wording from company. The first week of May should see more panic buying - IMO.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
APOA is now down 25%. Any correlation?
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
.0003 is coming soon.

Everyone should sell it now before you lose all money !!!
 
Posted by Johnwayne on :
 
Looks like I'm stuck here until May 10th. In too deep to sell now.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Wanna get a lot more really cheap huh stockforfun???
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
IMO - yes, amswap. The MMs rarely lose money. It's ok for us, though.

stockforfun, I am really sorry I made an excuse yesterday for your behavior. You have no idea what you are talking about. Nothing but obnoxious.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
APOA tanking down to .005... what would be the ramifications? 1 for 1 ratio?
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
more sell at .0006

Yesterday, I told you guy sell JPHC and buy PLNI, then now you don't lose ton of money.

.0001 is coming very soooooooon
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by amswap:
APOA is now down 25%. Any correlation?

After a company just announces "sorry, we suck at what we do and are going to change our business model" I'd probably be a bit wary too in the short term - which is what this is.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
Yesterday, I told you guy sell JPHC and buy PLNI, then now you don't lose ton of money.

So go over there and quit spamming this thread!
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
stock for fun, shut the f up and get the f off this board
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
GRMU is going up now ! Check it out !

DO NOT HOLD YOUR STOCK OVER NIGHT !
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
Look like fun might be starting.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
.0003 is coming soon.

Everyone should sell it now before you lose all money !!!

As mentioned before f*** off dude --- if you've got nothing productive to say or share then don't waste our time! Kids should be in school anyways so stop skipping otherwise Santa wont come this yr at all! That's my gold so get a life!
 
Posted by optimizer_78 on :
 
why selling at .0006 when it is worth .005 after merger?
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Well said Agent!!!
 
Posted by McShooter on :
 
Longs Holding Strong and Getting Stronger!!!

500 into 100K...You Gotta' Believe!!!
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
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ParaFin Corporation Signs Letter of Intent to Purchase 12.2 Million Metric Tons (89,426,000 Bbls.) of Rebco Crude for 536,000 Series "A" 8% Convertible Preferred Shares at $10,000 Per Share

ParaFin Corporation has announced that, on Friday, April 21st, Sidney B. Fowlds, President of ParaFin Corporation, executed a Letter of Intent with International Project Finance and Investment Corporation (Bahamas) on behalf of Oy Coral Marine Management LTD (Moscow, Russia) (referred to as "IPF") for the acquisition of 12.2 Million Metric Tons (or 89,426,000 barrels) of REBCO Crude Oil for delivery over the next twelve (12) months in exchange for 536,000 Series "A" 8% Convertible Preferred shares at $10,000 per share and the right for ParaFin to retain US$5.00 per barrel, before commissions, of Rebco Crude sold by ParaFin set forth in the Letter of Intent.

Agreements and Contracts as indicated in the LOI are expected to be finalized and executed by April 28, 2006. The "A" Preferred shares will be registered through the listing services of Euroclear or over the Bloomberg listing services.

The Terms of Purchase of the Rebco Crude states that IPF will cause the 12.2 million Metric Ton (approximately 90 million Bbls.) Oil Allotment to be transferred to ParaFin in consideration of which the Parties will enter into one or more definitive oil and stock purchase agreement(s) for the issuance by ParaFin of approximately (i) Five Hundred Thirty Six Thousand (536,000) shares of Series "A" 8% Convertible Preferred Shares * US$10,000 per share (the number of Preferred shares issued subject to adjustments upward or downward, as may be applicable, based upon the market price established by the Brent Platt price of the Oil Allotment as of the date of closing of the Transaction) less a five dollar (US$5.00) discount per barrel before selling commissions to be retained by ParaFin); and (ii) Five Thousand (5,000) shares of Series A-1 Convertible Preferred Shares to IPF or its designee, which oil and stock purchase agreement(s) shall generally provide such terms, conditions, warranties, representations, covenants, conditions, indemnification and other terms that are usual and customary for transactions of this nature (the "Transaction").

Jupiter Global Holdings Corp. (Pink Sheets: JPHC, http://www.marketwatch.com/tools/quotes/quotes.asp?symb=jphc)

APO Health, Inc. and JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Announce Signing of Definitive Agreement and Plan of Merger

APO Health, Inc. ("APO") and JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. today jointly announced their execution of a Definitive Agreement and Plan of Merger (the "Merger Agreement") pursuant to which APO has agreed, through a wholly owned subsidiary, to acquire 100% of the issued and outstanding common shares of JUPITER, and JUPITER has agreed, at the closing of the transaction, to become a wholly owned subsidiary of APO. As consideration in the merger transaction, APO has agreed to exchange shares of its common stock ("the Issuable Shares") with JUPITER's shareholders at an exchange ratio, which is subject to adjustment under the Merger Agreement that values the JUPITER shares at $0.005 per common share.

Jan Stahl, the Chief Executive Officer of APO, commented, "APO is making a shift in its business future and JUPITER, and primarily its subsidiary, Macro Communications, Inc. ( www.macrosouth.com), presented the best opportunity for us to build a significant operation under a new direction for our shareholders. Our aim was to chart a new course for APO that would result in accelerated growth and increased shareholder value. The challenges we have experienced in growing our health subsidiary prompted the development of our plan for change that included a process of looking for opportunities outside of the health industry and ultimately develop a business with holdings that could provide for significant value creation. Macro Communications, Inc. is a business that we believe has vast potential. It is currently a multimillion dollar operation that has a business plan which includes other acquisition candidates and a comprehensive strategy for growth and profit generation. We look forward to welcoming the JUPITER shareholders as APO shareholders and feel very strongly on the new combined entities moving forward." Ray Hawkins, the Chief Executive Officer of JUPITER, commented further, "The execution of this agreement results from a diligently prepared and successfully executed plan that we had implemented to move JUPITER forward for the future growth of the company, and ultimately for the enhancement of value for the JUPITER shareholders. APO is a solid company which currently is a multimillion dollar operation, and we feel this merger provides a great opportunity for our shareholders' growth prospects. We are very pleased with the valuation that we received from APO and feel it is fair for our shareholders. We look forward to the consummation of this transaction and setting things in motion to develop a new path of success for the combined corporations." The parties have agreed to use their best efforts to consummate the transaction by May 10, 2006, or as soon as practicable thereafter.

The Merger Agreement will be filed by APO as an exhibit to a Current Report on Form 8-K with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission as required. The Merger Agreement contains certain conditions precedent to consummation of the merger, including but not limited to, obtaining consents, providing certified lists of shareholders and delivery of certain due diligence and other corporate documents. The Merger Agreement provides that the Issuable Shares will not be registered under the Securities Act, or the securities laws of any state, and absent an exemption from registration contained in such laws, cannot be transferred, hypothecated, sold or otherwise disposed of until; (i) a registration statement with respect to such securities is declared effective under the Securities Act, or (ii) APO receives an opinion of counsel for APO that an exemption from the registration requirements of the Securities Act is available.

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JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp., a Nevada corporation, is a holding company with interests and developments in a diverse number of growing industries. JUPITER plans to achieve a leadership position through the building of a synergistic network of innovative, profitable and global businesses.

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Luggage Express To Participate In 14th Annual Airline CEO Conference

Universal Express Inc. subsidiary Luggage Express is a participating sponsor in this year's International Airline Conference being held at the Doral Country Club in Miami, Florida from April 30th to May 2nd, 2006.

"During the past 13 conferences, 25 to 30 Airline CEO's and an average of over 30 airlines have attended each conference. This year's event highlights include a cargo panel, a United States Airline panel and a Regional Airline Panel," said Richard Altomare, CEO and Chairman of Universal Express, Inc.

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Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
If APOA goes to .005, and we stay at say .0007, we're still golden right?
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
yeah, just means you get more shares of apoa
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
If this goes to .0005 I'm buying 6M more.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
repo, someone posted the merger/buyout scenario for this one yesterday. I can't remember who and how many pages back, but in some ways it applies to this situation. The swap involves a locked price for our shares vs avg 20-day pps for parent. This is MM activity - all IMO. Too much fun. Just keep your eye on your goal and gloss over the unimportant stuff.
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
I will buy 20M at .0003
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Maybe APO will go down to .0001. We'll get 50 shares of APO for every share of JPHC, in that case you'd get 5x your investment if you bought JPHC at .001 and 7.14x your investment if you bought at .0007 and 3.5x your investment if you bought at .0014.

[Smile]

Just kidding (although that is how the numbers would work out literally)
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
well it's at 8 dumbazz (message goes out to Stockforfun)
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
ARCA bidding huge on APOA.

I wonder if MM's shorted this down as well to create panic.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
ARCA bidding huge on APOA.

I wonder if MM's shorted this down as well to create panic.

good point!
 
Posted by wildweb on :
 
Stockforfun

why would you buy at .0003 if you say we will see .0001 soon? Maybe because you dont know what you are talking about?

Things that make me go hmmmm....
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
ARCA bidding huge on APOA.

I wonder if MM's shorted this down as well to create panic.

welcome all shorts, the more the better.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
Huge volume traded over at apoa (1.5 mil already) compared to their 56K avg volume
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
considering yesterday was like 75K I'd say that's a significant difference [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
Huge volume traded over at apoa (1.5 mil already)


 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Maybe his gold for today is to lose 66% of his money?

quote:
Originally posted by wildweb:
Stockforfun

why would you buy at .0003 if you say we will see .0001 soon? Maybe because you dont know what you are talking about?

Things that make me go hmmmm....


 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
APOA getting crushed.
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
APOA .006

FPPL is running !
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Do you think this is some mutant Reverse Merger, where JPHC is really taking over APOA??? I mean, if the golden egg here is Macro, a subsidiary of JPHC, maybe they are going to run the show.

Maybe APOA shareholders know this and are heading for the hills.
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
considering yesterday was like 75K I'd say that's a significant difference [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
Huge volume traded over at apoa (1.5 mil already)


significant indeed, down 50% already
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
*moment of silence for apoa*
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
APOA .006

FPPL is running !

you should be running to... get lost
 
Posted by eagleye on :
 
anybody got jphc at .0006 today?
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
If this were on a major exchange, I'd have a short position on the parent, too. Cash out on both before the merger.
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
i was able to sell some at the ask 0.0007, the MMs want shares real bad
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
I had the same thoughts lastnight, I think it's going to be more of a reverse merger stock trade thing. Did the pr not say JPHC or a part of JPHC would survive the buyout...hm
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
apoa is dropping like stockforfun after i have my fun with him [Big Grin]
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
lol, before you know it JPHC will be worth more than apoa [Big Grin] ahhh what a mess lol... can't do much more than laugh... and... send my possie to Santa Ana Cali to pay Stockforfun a little visit
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
APOA is now at .005... we are now at par value.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
This is a f*cking nightmare!!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee we will get more shares of APOA then we have of JPHC, and if it gets restricted we could sit on 20 billion shares each like PAIM...wait I am kidding, not funny hehe
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
This may be the time to buy APOA!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
APOA hits .005 and all selling dries up???

What the Hell? Is this all one big coincidence? I think there is huge arbitrage trading going on behind the scenes that we, the retail, are unaware of.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
something seems a little fishy though with APOA they traded 1.8 million in the last 15 mins. --- 1.8 million in 15 mins for a stock that usually only trades 56K on average per day --- that's like 2-3K per 15mins not 1.8 million --- crazy!
 
Posted by iamfine on :
 
I got in at 0007. A little earlier. Thought it was going to dip this morning. But, still didnot predict the 0006. I guess it is ok. Should be bouncing back up. It is interesting to see both of them dipped at the same time. APO is down due to the merger and stock exchange. JPHC should have been up.
 
Posted by JOELGA on :
 
I bet APOA will see a double from this point right now. IMO
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
wouldnt a lower APOA price be better for us BEFORE the buyout? we would get more of their shares IF IF IF they keep the buyout to .005 per JPHC share right?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
You are correct letitride. If it's at .005, it's 1 for 1 instead of 4 for 1.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
GRMU is going up now ! Check it out !

DO NOT HOLD YOUR STOCK OVER NIGHT !

are you for real ??????

DO NOT HOLD YOUR STOCK OVER NIGHT ! [/QB][/QUOTE]

lolololololol
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
apo is going back up!!! bxa 8x9
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
APOA is on the rise now.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
true I would like to see APOA lower then that then, so after the buy out if it goes down more we're safer hehe
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
We are missing something here I think... there's a missing link between APOA and JPHC. It appears people want a 1 for 1.. but who, and why? The PPS's are now mirroring.
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
I did not lose money on JPHC, I got out at .0011 yesterday ! Smart ?
Now I try to buy as low as possible, then get out at same day! Smart way to may money !
I aslo buy APOA at low and sell high at same say.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
I think apoa people wouldnt want no more then 1 for 1, we would love to get 2 of theirs for one of ours. Doubles what we have so they would have to go to .0002 for me to lose money hehe
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Ohio, what's your opinion on what's going on?
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
Yikes! Just got out of meetings and checked Ameritrade. .00006?? Do we know if we are guaranteed the .005 if we stay in? I'm sure you guys have already discussed this several posts back but I don't have time to review - have to get ready for another meeting so just bear with me. Hate that work gets in the way of trading!! Any thoughts would be most appreciated.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
hey Vicki, we have no clue, *passes you the Vodka*
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
hey Vicki, we have no clue, *passes you the Vodka*

lol
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
hey Vicki, we have no clue, *passes you the Vodka*

Thanks, I'll take a drink and pass it back to ya.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
Well I am sick of this, I just sold all my shares at .0006 for a small loss (averaged in about .00065). Go ahead and call me stupid, but this is going lower, may buy back around .0004.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
Thanks Vicki...omg you drank it all!!
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
The L2's dont lie, the bid is now almost completely gone at .0006!!! Once we hit 5 more panic selling. I am not bashing giving facts on L2
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
well price only matters if you want to sell before the buyout, if you decide to stay in the price per share of JPHC right now means squat. its that .005 that matters....right?
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
who cares about JPHC's price unless you plan on selling. We getting .005 worth of APOA come may 10th maybe later. Just hope APOA tanks and then macrosouth becomes profitable and then it shoots back up. prolly best case scenario excluding the "short squeeze" theory
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
Not necessarily. The .005 was based on the pps when the PR went out. When the merger takes place it will be based on the pps average of the days between the announcement and the merger. Or so I believe.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
We need a PR of some sort.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vicki:
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
hey Vicki, we have no clue, *passes you the Vodka*

Thanks, I'll take a drink and pass it back to ya.
 -
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I'll take the Drano if you got it.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
ya but isnt is the 20 day average of APOA? from what ive read the JPHC price really doesnt matter, we are getting the .005 in X amount of APOA. where X=20 day average PPS of APOA
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
look at FRAN's ask size lol, i sold half at 0.0007, keeping the other half
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
ya but isnt is the 20 day average of APOA? from what ive read the JPHC price really doesnt matter, we are getting the .005 in X amount of APOA. where X=20 day average PPS of APOA

correct!
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
From APOA April 21, 2006 8-K

CONVERSION OF THE TARGET COMMON STOCK OF TARGET . Each share of Common Stock of TARGET issued and outstanding immediately prior to the Effective Time shall be converted into and become a right to receive one-quarter (0.25) of a Share of Common Stock (“Conversion Price”), subject to adjustment as provided herein, of the PARENT (the “Issuable Shares”) and shall automatically be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist.


HERE IS THE NOT SO GOOD PART!

The Conversion Price is premised on the market price of the PARENT’s common stock at the time of execution of this Agreement, being $0.02 per share (“Market Price”). The Conversion Price shall be adjusted proportionately should the average closing sale price of the PARENT’s common stock for the 20 consecutive trading days prior to the Closing Date be greater or less than the Market Price.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
ok I think we should probably get .005 per share still, although that can change. I think the 20 day average of APOA is what we get to buy it at(transfer to) so if the 20 day average is .007 we get .005 x how many shares we have then devide by .007 .......am I wrong lol so I would like to see APOA tank...no offense lol
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
looks like we might be hiting 5 soon
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
PARENT Company is APO, Jupiter is TARGET
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Anybody got the L2s on both of these?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Don't think we'll see .0005.

See my premarket prediction! Open at .0007, hit .0006, close .0007.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
From APOA April 21, 2006 8-K

CONVERSION OF THE TARGET COMMON STOCK OF TARGET . Each share of Common Stock of TARGET issued and outstanding immediately prior to the Effective Time shall be converted into and become a right to receive one-quarter (0.25) of a Share of Common Stock (“Conversion Price”), subject to adjustment as provided herein, of the PARENT (the “Issuable Shares”) and shall automatically be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist.


HERE IS THE NOT SO GOOD PART!

The Conversion Price is premised on the market price of the PARENT’s common stock at the time of execution of this Agreement, being $0.02 per share (“Market Price”). The Conversion Price shall be adjusted proportionately should the average closing sale price of the PARENT’s common stock for the 20 consecutive trading days prior to the Closing Date be greater or less than the Market Price.

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww sh*t lol
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
If you look at the T&S on this you will see a lot of trade are for under 100k shares. Two things jump out. First these could be partial fills. If that is the case then the MM's are not selling their shares. The are waiting for sells to fill the orders. They do not have enough shares to fill the orders out of their stock at these prices.

The only other explanation is they are trading with each other to keep the PPS down.

Either way it shows some desperation on their part.

GLTA
Wally
http://quotes.freerealtime.com/dl/frt/S?&symbol=JPHC&type=Time%26Sales&filter=0& IM=quotes&SA=quotes|Time%26Sales&lastTime=26-Apr-2006%2010:28:36&extra=1

Take a look at how the orders are going through. There is also some mirror trading going on.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
FRAN gone from the ask
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
Either way, I'm holding until the merger is complete.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Why is that not good. The value of the JPHC stock is .005 no matter what happens to APO's stock price. If APO is trading at .005 fo rthe 20 days preceding the sale, then we get 1 APO share for each JPHC share, instead of 1 for every 4 JPHC shares.

quote:
Originally posted by NEL:
From APOA April 21, 2006 8-K

CONVERSION OF THE TARGET COMMON STOCK OF TARGET . Each share of Common Stock of TARGET issued and outstanding immediately prior to the Effective Time shall be converted into and become a right to receive one-quarter (0.25) of a Share of Common Stock (“Conversion Price”), subject to adjustment as provided herein, of the PARENT (the “Issuable Shares”) and shall automatically be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist.


HERE IS THE NOT SO GOOD PART!

The Conversion Price is premised on the market price of the PARENT’s common stock at the time of execution of this Agreement, being $0.02 per share (“Market Price”). The Conversion Price shall be adjusted proportionately should the average closing sale price of the PARENT’s common stock for the 20 consecutive trading days prior to the Closing Date be greater or less than the Market Price.


 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
honestly not like it actually matters whats going on . no one is selling today and the majority of us are floating with the current. we will get clearer news in a couple days. vodka please.......
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
lol amazing, all MMs go off the bid to scare people that its going to 0.0005, then when 1 MM is left and no buys are going through, a few MMs jump back up at 0.0006
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
ok we have 2 opinions on this, is the .005 based on APOA or not? I didnt think so but .....ugh where's the Taquila
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
lovely how things are transpiring now isn't it?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
The .005 is set. The other half of the ratio is based on APOA PPS.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
Repoman, so I am correct in hoping APOA tanks? lol
 
Posted by homeinalberta on :
 
Someone must be selling! I just bought 3000000 at .0006!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Yes, let it tank. We get more shares. Let it go to .0025, then we get double the amount of shares and can sell for 200% gain (if you bought at .0012).
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
i hate to say it but i really don't think the .005/share is guaranteed...that number was based off of a .02 closing price of apoa on 4/21...therefore, at their conversion rate .02x.25=.005 value for JPHC shares...now if the average price for APOA falls to .01 for the 20 day period they speak of...why wouldnt our JPHC shares be worth a value of .01x.25=.0025??? this is how I believe it works from reading the filing over and over again...even if this were the case...although this still is not the great news we wanted (i.e. cash) it would seem that APOA would have to average .005 or less during those 20 days for the majority of the people to lose money if they held their shares...is this not how its being done???
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
i h8 u. gimme shares at .0006
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
.0005 now... just watching my money go down the toilet.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
theres 5, although theres about 15 MM's on the bid now, it will be a while before we go lower than 5, but we will.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
i just hope they make it not restricted. OO OO OO what about if there is an epic battle going on between Hawkins and the APOA CEO where hawkins wants common shares and APOA guy wants restricted and they cant decide by may 30th and we get to keep our JPHC and maybe find a new buyer. that would be dreamy...*Sigh*
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I think I am going to bail.. can't watch this hit .0001 today and become the next SMMW
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
sorry guys but MM's are winning the battle
 
Posted by MB on :
 
OT: MPTS--shell co that just went active. make your $ back quick. take a peek. I just sold half my JPHC to get in there.
 
Posted by eagleye on :
 
13084999 vs. 5000 B/A mm's need shares
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
"What started off as a joke, has turned into a disaster" - Rocky III
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
*flush* hehe Repo the price don't matter...I hope....and I will keep telling myself that!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I'm getting the feeling that I'll be sitting here by myself soon enough [Smile]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Oh great, another shell play...
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
Ok, Im confused.

As I read things, basically 1 share of JPHC will be worth 25% of what ever APOA's 20 day avg price at closing date is.

Thus, if APOA avg is .01, then our JPHC shares would be worth .0025. And if APOA is worth less, then JPHC would be worth less.

AM I wrong on this???
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
a shell company at a dollar? damn
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
ill put a limit sell at .0007 so i can at least break even. not selling for lower, remaining shorts have to cover by may1st but they are prolly shorting it now too hoping to drag it all the way down
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Don't think we'll see .0005.

See my premarket prediction! Open at .0007, hit .0006, close .0007.

Time to rethink this one Repoman. How low will she go???
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Chad, you are wrong.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
and im done with mergers and buyouts. this takes way to long. I missed RSHN and every biodiesel prolly play because of this HOPE to get a 500% gain (still justified imo, prolly only gonna lose 1k or so) better to take the 10-20% and do it the slow way
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
I'm getting the feeling that I'll be sitting here by myself soon enough [Smile]

I'll be here with you atleast 2 more days!!! I'll be reevaluating my position on friday but wont do anything until then!

Cheers --- out comes the rum!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I don't understand... there are 10x more shares bought than sold today and yet MM's keep taking it down.. I just don't get it.
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
I am so glad I got out today at 0.0011, I made 10% gain from loss.

Yeah.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
im in for about .00065 mb closer to 7
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
i dont think chad is wrong(considering i just posted the same info 5 min ago)...that is my take from this filing as well...
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
im in at least till the end of the week as well...2.1 mill
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
Repo you can't leave me....NO! Wait a little longer!
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
2nd time I've been burned on this one. You think I would learn my lesson!
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sportsguy:
2nd time I've been burned on this one. You think I would learn my lesson!

lol, lets try the red one again
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
I'm out today as well.

Letitride

The next time you pass the vodka, I hope it's for a celebration trade instead of masking the pain of trading for a loss.
 
Posted by joker669 on :
 
I'm trying to sell but it wont take. Still sitting in open!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
lol Vicki I don't blame you. I am holding to see if it goes back up to .007 where I got it, then I MAY sell half and let the rest ride into this buyout, hopefully more info will be out soon. Wish me luck *sigh*
 
Posted by metal1 on :
 
well, based on what i read, it states that the ratio will be .25 of the new co for every JPHC share you have. they also state the ratio will be subject to adjustment. they also state the newly issued shares are not going to be registered and therefore can't be sold. so basically you will be stuck with the new shares for who knows how long. maybe forever. so this is basically one POS for another POS. i'm glad i sold some at .0013


http://biz.yahoo.com/e/060425/apoa.ob8-k.html
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Help me understand why this is such a bad deal at .0005 or less? The value of this stock only depends on what APOA is valued at no matter how little this trades for. Why is it now such a bad deal. Not being argumentative, I really don't understand.
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
wow, 0,0004 is coming up soon
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
this was at 0.0014 yesterday and we're approaching 0.0004 ... simply amazing, i'm still shocked
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
any takers for .0004?
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
wow the 5's are thinning fast, here comes 4.

B- .0005 x3
A- .0006x10

they are thinning as I speak
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
plenty for now
 
Posted by metal1 on :
 
its a bad deal because you won't be able to sell it. looks like its going to be restricted for an indefinite period.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
amswap I dont think the price here matters eather. the question that matters to me is restricted and if so how long.... I dont want to sit here with shares in my acount I can't touch for 2 or 3 years.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
"this is end... my only friend, the end"
 
Posted by db on :
 
if I sell ( which probly won't be until this is near the ex date ) it will be when this thing goes back up - this will go back up - there is money to be made
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
"this is end... my only friend, the end"

omg I am going to cry. I should have stuck with Supermans picks lol!!! I am not giving up yet though. I am in tell monday atleast. I need to make a decision on a calm mind
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
lol Vicki I don't blame you. I am holding to see if it goes back up to .007 where I got it, then I MAY sell half and let the rest ride into this buyout, hopefully more info will be out soon. Wish me luck *sigh*

Good Luck. This was a good lesson for me to stay away from companies that are in the process of merging or being bought out. I don't have enough experience trading for this sort of stuff! I bought in at .0007 also but let it go at .0005. Hope things work out.
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
i'm also not selling today...no way.

i will see how things go over the next couple of days.. hoping something will be released to let us know some more information...either way, i'm waiting for at least .0007 before i cash out.
 
Posted by db on :
 
MM's want to hand out matches so we can all run around with our heads on fire
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
At the Effective Time (as defined below) of the Merger, (a) pursuant to the terms of APOs certificate of incorporation and the Merger Agreement, each share of Common Stock of Surviving Corporation issued and outstanding immediately prior to the Effective Time shall be converted into and become a right to receive one-quarter (0.25) of a share of common stock of APO (the Conversion Price), subject to adjustment as described herein (the Issuable Shares), and shall automatically be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist. The Conversion Price is based on $0.02 per share, the market price of APOs common stock at the time of execution of the Merger Agreement (Market Price). The Conversion Price shall be adjusted proportionately should the average closing sale price of APOs common stock for the 20 consecutive trading days prior to the closing date be greater or less than the Market Price.

According to above, I believe I am right. We would get a 4(JPHC) for 1(APOA) or 25% of the value of what APOA is at(20 day avg prior to closing date).

Thus, if you bought JPHC at .001 and APOA is vuled at .004 as an 20 day avg. You break even.

Thus, I'D thuink we'd want APOA to go as high as possible. And hope to buy JPHC as low as possible.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Our only hope is that the MM's buying up all these shares run it up one last time before the merger to get rid of these shares... otherewise, THEY will be stuck with them.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
people hold on... this isn't going to be down for long! If you sell now then the MM's win!!! It's not going to kill you to hold... we have 2 more weeks before anything is put into cement... just hold on for a few days!!! Everyone calm down!!! Go for a walk or something... but selling in my opinion is 100% the wrong move!

Here come the 4s --- wasn't this was we expected last night... the mm's trying to shake as hard as possible?!?! Ths isn't a surprise!
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Yeah, someone needs to be ready to buy APOA at the end of the day and drive the price up each day. Is this something the MMs will do?
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
bid at .0004

.0003 coming soon and I am waiting for it.
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
from everything ive read on the allstocks boards "you should stick with the MMs"....arent they the ones who are buying up all these shares at such cheap prices....or does that not apply to this situation??
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
0.0005 x 0.0006 again
 
Posted by db on :
 
JARW is right!! to sell now is a knee jerk reaction hold or buy more
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
I agree with Jarw!

quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
people hold on... this isn't going to be down for long! If you sell now then the MM's win!!! It's not going to kill you to hold... we have 2 more weeks before anything is put into cement... just hold on for a few days!!! Everyone calm down!!! Go for a walk or something... but selling in my opinion is 100% the wrong move!

Here come the 4s --- wasn't this was we expected last night... the mm's trying to shake as hard as possible?!?! Ths isn't a surprise!


 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Oh wow, we actually had an uptick.
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
RiskGrades : JPHC = 1413
PLNI = 413
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I can't afford to wait for the restriction period.

Do ur DD!!!
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
go away
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Opethian - they have to buy these shares unless some damn fool is buying all the way down.... then either he is a genius in disguise, OR the MM's will need to run this up somehow to unload shares...

Maybe they are dropping it to induce BUYERS at low prices, therefore, they can get rid of their inventories. I mean really, who is going to buy this thing if it starts to move up quickly besides daytraders?
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
also, It seems we have to stay in this stock for 1 yr, maybe 2yrs before u can sell. Some may not wanna keep it that long.
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chad:
also, It seems we have to stay in this stock for 1 yr, maybe 2yrs before u can sell. Some may not wanna keep it that long.

That would suck if true. Have we officially confirmed that yet?
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dbrownRC:
go away

Once I sell my millions of JPHC before the exchange I will. Until then .......
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
can't we somehow get stockforfun kicked off of here? He's a pain, complains all day, rubs his sh*t in our face about gold and not so gold!!! I prefer bashers over him --- he's just like that kid in school no one wanted to play with but who always hung around nagging everyone!!!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
SO much for the uptick
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
no...i was talking to stockforfun...not you money...you just posted before i could...sorry
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
then your stock value will be $ 0 if you wait for 1 or 2 years.
 
Posted by stockinthemud on :
 
I think I'm going to just stop watching it for a week. By then, I'm hoping it will be back up.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
stockforfun 1413 is my lucky numnber.
-cow
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
then your stock value will be $ 0 if you wait for 1 or 2 years.

then why the f are you waiting for 0.0003?!
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
not sure its official, but it seems to read that way in the report from yesterday. If u read back a few pages, many people were talking about it.

I feel JPHC is still a good buy, but only at .0005 or less. Cause they will be taking APOA down to cover. My opinion only.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
stockforfun 1413 is my lucky numnber.
-cow

lmao
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
JPHC: Are the MMs buying or selling? Try to
figure it out and play on the MMs' side -- they
are always the winners.
 
Posted by indef on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
then your stock value will be $ 0 if you wait for 1 or 2 years.

are you 7of9?
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
maybe stockforfun is DC17s evil twin and knows that it will hit .0003. but in all honesty stfuplzkthx
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
I am sorry for anyone who is holding JPHC !

I am not complain !
I am just waiting to purchase JPHC at .0003

Sorry for your lost !
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Learn to write the English language you piece of *#$#
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I'm out at .0005.... sorry guys, have to preserve some capital.
 
Posted by Opethian on :
 
stockforfun, you are trying to scare everyone by saying it will be $0 yet here you are saying you're going to buy when it hits 0.0003, sounds like a contradiction to me!!!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I'm out at .0005.... sorry guys, have to preserve some capital.

gonna get back in if we hit rock bottom?
 
Posted by db on :
 
stockforfun why are you even here?
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
Repo.....NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and who the hell is that stock for fun guy? Try hooked on english for fun....what's with the grammer?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
JARW, yeah, why not? I'll actually get back in if it hits .0003.
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JimSC:
JPHC: Are the MMs buying or selling? Try to
figure it out and play on the MMs' side -- they
are always the winners.

agree, mms have total control on this one
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Opethian:
stockforfun, you are trying to scare everyone by saying it will be $0 yet here you are saying you're going to buy when it hits 0.0003, sounds like a contradiction to me!!!

Woaw woaw, easy with the big word Opethian --- contra - what? Rememeber Stockforfun sold his dictionary for gold!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Of course...right after I sell, it upticks!
 
Posted by db on :
 
lol
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
Because I am having fun ! If you want me go away, I will be here all day !

Don't mad at me because of your lost ! I will make money when JPHC is going down.

Sorry !
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
What's with all the pointless agruing?

JPHC is worth .005 on conversion date

I you own 1 million shares at .0006 = $600

On conversion date, you will own 1 million JPHC (the equivalent of AOPA) and it will be worth $5000.00
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
If you want me go away, I will be here all day !
in america we call this a rhyme, congrats.
 
Posted by Porsche on :
 
.0006 going up a little!
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
On a positive note - By the end of the day, JPHC might be worth more than USXP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Going up.. this is a nightmare... should I get back in?
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
LMAO!!!

quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
If you want me go away, I will be here all day !
in america we call this a rhyme, congrats.


 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
If you want me go away, I will be here all day !
in america we call this a rhyme, congrats.

hehe, touche'. A foreign rapper, how novel.
 
Posted by buzzygresham on :
 
im outta this POS
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
0.0005 X 0.0006
Click for quotes:

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=jphc
 
Posted by NomarKash on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
What's with all the pointless agruing?

JPHC is worth .005 on conversion date

I you own 1 million shares at .0006 = $600

On conversion date, you will own 1 million JPHC (the equivalent of AOPA) and it will be worth $5000.00

If that was true why wouldn't this stock have run up to that price as soon as the news came out?
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Going up.. this is a nightmare... should I get back in?

lol Repo!! I begged you to wait! It's up to you, this one is crazy, I do believe this thing will get higher before the buyout takes affect, that is why I am holding. I don't know if I will hold or sell before the buyout, but I am definetly holding and waiting for it to go up before I make a decision
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Going up.. this is a nightmare... should I get back in?

Hold on... just wait a little before you even think about getting in!!! Go get a coffee or something just take a little break!!! It's not going to run away on yoU!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
because no one wants to wait 2 years till they can sell stock and both companies are total garbage
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Well, I won't pay more for what I sold, but if I can get back in at .0005, I guess I will....
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Repo, wait a little and it will likely go down a tick or two and then decide whether or not to get back in.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Rumor of a dividend to be paid out on RB... they are getting more desperate than us here.
 
Posted by db on :
 
JimSC I respect your opinion what is your take on all of this?
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
REPOMAN!!! I just don't know what to say except that I hope you keep working on your timing issue. It seems to be fairly spendy. GL on next one.
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
MMs want to cash in by pulling down the PPS --
it triggered stop-loss sell orders, then
panic sells followed. MMs will make tons
of money in this deal. It will take 4
months to settle the dust. Don't get in
if you can not hold it that long.
 
Posted by same on :
 
APO and JPHC IMO

One Reason OTC.BB

Jphc moves up to another exchange, why APo I do not know maybe the same reason Hawkins got Macro for 2 million. Apo has had problems that but I think are starting to turn the table. Macro was also going under look at them now.

If JPHC has Revs of 20 million and APO 8 Million with 25 Billion Shares is that not around 1 cent a share.

I was told that until the May 10 deal is signed that if APO goes down in SP you get more shares at the .005 value, if APO goes up you get the same .005 value.

The only part I do not like is the restriction but with a .005 value. that is a 1000% increse from .0005

The way you can lose or gain is if after the changeover May 10 APO goes down in value or up in value. I am betting APO will go up in value.

I think there are things going on behind the scenes that are positive and everyone is over reacting in a big way.

For me I would buy here.
I would not be surprised to see a Dividend announced soon.
This is all IMO.
 
Posted by db on :
 
thanx
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Jim, 4 months if we hold we're still stuck for 2 years.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
man I feel for ya Repo, sucks to sell and get back in right away around the same price. you must have Patience my young Grasshopper!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Well, same price I only lose $10 for the trade.. no biggie.
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
JPHC: 0.0005 -- great deal for long.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Seems like trading has slowed... all MM's have gone back to lunch?
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Assuming .02 is the PPS we are going to base calculation off of and if there are approximately 10 billion JPHC o/s, then only 2.5 billion AOPA will be given to JPHC holders.

Meaning AOPA will have over $30 million in rev's and roughly 2.6 billion o/s

Seems like a good situation to be in for JPHC longs. Get AOPA worth PPS of .005 JPHC

Where is the confusion? Do you realize how low AOPA will have to trade in order for JPHC longs lose money from today's PPS of .0004 - .0006? Tremendous!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Ok back in at my sell price of .0006 (I thought I got filled at .0005 on my sell but my order went through at .0006).

So now I'm back in, -$10.

Am I a total moron? Feel free to bash away.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
What is the minimum PPS a stock can trade at? Baed on current PPS of .0006, AOPA will have to be trading too low to even trade for current JPHC holders to show a loss
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Can somebody tell me how to block this moron - stockforfun? I know I saw a link somewhere, but forget (getting senile) where it is.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Ok back in at my sell price of .0006 (I thought I got filled at .0005 on my sell but my order went through at .0006).

So now I'm back in, -$10.

Am I a total moron? Feel free to bash away.

YES, you are a moron. Boy, bashing is more fun than I thought. No wonder bashers hang out on message boards even though they don't have positions.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
Assuming .02 is the PPS we are going to base calculation off of and if there are approximately 10 billion JPHC o/s, then only 2.5 billion AOPA will be given to JPHC holders.

Meaning AOPA will have over $30 million in rev's and roughly 2.6 billion o/s

Seems like a good situation to be in for JPHC longs. Get AOPA worth PPS of .005 JPHC


agree 100% I am not worried about long term loss here, but I am just waiting to see if it will be restricted or not, and if so then what is it. And then I will have to make a decision on it

Where is the confusion? Do you realize how low AOPA will have to trade in order for JPHC longs lose money from today's PPS of .0004 - .0006? Tremendous!


 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
Hey ! Ticktrader !

Are you working for JPHC ?
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
For me, the long should only be a couple of weeks. This could take 2 years!
 
Posted by buckstalker on :
 
YES...JK...I couldn't resist


quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Ok back in at my sell price of .0006 (I thought I got filled at .0005 on my sell but my order went through at .0006).

So now I'm back in, -$10.

Am I a total moron? Feel free to bash away.


 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Well... I guess I asked for that.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
Hey ! Ticktrader !

Are you working for JPHC ?

Buddy you are f***ed --- yesterday you said you knew someone and now you are asking others if they work for JPHC --- dude get a life and a dictionary and a few more imaginary friends and get lost while you're at it! No one cares for half the sh*t you say!
 
Posted by db on :
 
welcome back roir -- thanks for the offer but I'll save my bashing for stocksforfun
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
Assuming .02 is the PPS we are going to base calculation off of and if there are approximately 10 billion JPHC o/s, then only 2.5 billion AOPA will be given to JPHC holders.

Meaning AOPA will have over $30 million in rev's and roughly 2.6 billion o/s

Seems like a good situation to be in for JPHC longs. Get AOPA worth PPS of .005 JPHC


Where is the confusion? Do you realize how low AOPA will have to trade in order for JPHC longs lose money from today's PPS of .0004 - .0006? Tremendous!


agree 100% I am not worried about long term loss here, but I am just waiting to see if it will be restricted or not, and if so then what is it. And then I will have to make a decision on it
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Ok back in at my sell price of .0006 (I thought I got filled at .0005 on my sell but my order went through at .0006).

So now I'm back in, -$10.

Am I a total moron? Feel free to bash away.

Hey repo, I don't think anybody can justifiably bash another on here. We've all made some crazy decisions. That's the nature of the pennies!!!
 
Posted by th0th on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
What is the minimum PPS a stock can trade at? Baed on current PPS of .0006, AOPA will have to be trading too low to even trade for current JPHC holders to show a loss

Technically the lowest PPS a stock can trade at is .0001. Reverse splits + dilution, however, can lower the PPS indefinitely.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
You're not a moron, you're confused as to what the hell the future is going to bring us, as are the rest of us. None of us can tell you what will happen, only what we THINK, and what we plan to do.

I THINK this stock will be selling for significantly more than .0014 closer to May 14th, and I would buy more if I had more funds.

I PLAN to hold this until at least a few days before May 10th.


quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Ok back in at my sell price of .0006 (I thought I got filled at .0005 on my sell but my order went through at .0006).

So now I'm back in, -$10.

Am I a total moron? Feel free to bash away.


 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
No trades in 3 minutes... I guess the selling is over, but so is the buying.. now what comes next?


This is better than a horror film
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Ok back in at my sell price of .0006 (I thought I got filled at .0005 on my sell but my order went through at .0006).

So now I'm back in, -$10.

Am I a total moron? Feel free to bash away.

Welcome back... long time no see! [Big Grin] It's all good, we forgive you [Big Grin] !!!
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
repo,.. it happens when you trade with emotion.. i've been burned many times doing that..

all good man... don't know if we have a thumbsup emoticon, but here you go [Wink]

:thumbsup:
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
Q: How to determine the MMs are buying or
selling?

A:MMs has the ability to push pps donw or up.
When they want to buy, they push the pps
down; when they want to sell, they push
the pps up. They buy at low and sell at high.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
Yay Repo is back! now repo wouldnt that be funny if you just got back in, and the thing plummets to .0001 and the buyout fails and JPHC is no longer reporting? hahaha I am just JOKING by the way.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
Sorry, but I just dont see how u figure JPHC is at .005 at conversion. SO if JPHC is at .001 at closing date, your telling me they make it .005, I dont think so.

Again, read the bottom, it seems pretty self-explanitory.


At the Effective Time (as defined below) of the Merger, (a) pursuant to the terms of APOs certificate of incorporation and the Merger Agreement, each share of Common Stock of Surviving Corporation issued and outstanding immediately prior to the Effective Time shall be converted into and become a right to receive one-quarter (0.25) of a share of common stock of APO (the Conversion Price), subject to adjustment as described herein (the Issuable Shares), and shall automatically be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist. The Conversion Price is based on $0.02 per share, the market price of APOs common stock at the time of execution of the Merger Agreement (Market Price). The Conversion Price shall be adjusted proportionately should the average closing sale price of APOs common stock for the 20 consecutive trading days prior to the closing date be greater or less than the Market Price.

According to above, I believe I am right. We would get a 4(JPHC) for 1(APOA) or 25% of the value of what APOA is at(20 day avg prior to closing date).

Thus, if you bought JPHC at .001 and APOA is vuled at .004 as an 20 day avg. You break even.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
Hey ! JARW

F**K YOURSELF ! DON'T mad at me when you lost money !

You continually look ignorant by your complete inability to write. You might be more productive in persuading others if you would learn to write. Can you not proof read before you post?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Ok, going to go do something productive... will check back in later. Hold strong (unlike me!)

Oh, and STOCKFORFUN, UP YOURS.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
Hey ! JARW

F**K YOURSELF ! DON'T mad at me when you lost money !

Buddy a) i'm not md b) i haven't lost any money since i haven't sold c) you don't know where or when i bought in d) you talk sh*t e) get lost you've nothing to say or share
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chad:
Sorry, but I just dont see how u figure JPHC is at .005 at conversion. SO if JPHC is at .001 at closing date, your telling me they make it .005, I dont think so.


Doesn't matter what JPHC price is when they merge. While APO will become JPHC, the price is based solely on the 20 day average of APO. That's it.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
justforfun guy, nobody here has lost anything, the stock price is down, so some of us may be down but we know this will go back up, how far we don't know. How about you come back when it runs up and tell us we lost money, then we can rub our profits in your smug mug
 
Posted by optimizer_78 on :
 
mm crooks stole cheap shares..going to go back to .0012
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
Q: How to determine if the MMs are buying or
selling?

A:MMs have the ability to push pps donw or up.
When they want to buy, they push the pps
down; when they want to sell, they push
the pps up. They buy at low and sell at high.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
AMSWAP: I know that its based on 20 day avg, but some people here are saying JPHC converts at .005.
Im saying thats wrong.

Ive been trying to tell evreyone that JPHC shares will be converted based on 20 day APOA avg.

So, if APOA avg over 18 days lets say is .005 or less, u may want to dump all. PLus theres the 1 to 2 yr issue of no selling as well.

People need to be careful.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
I still think buyiny JPHC at .005 or less is a good buy, cause it hopefully will be at .001 or higher in the next 19 days, then u can sell all and not get stuck in new merged stock.

ALSO, note that if u buy JPHC at .001 and the 20day conversion rate of APOA is .004, u just broke even...
 
Posted by jump'em&pump'em on :
 
I am new at this still, but the MM games make sense to me. I mean it is what I would do if I were as short as they are.

1. Walk the pps down causing a huge seel off by both panicked and stop triggers. Get all those shares, while at the same time playing with the heads of all the shareholders.

2. When they bring the pps back up they again collect from all the sellers on the way up who now feel good to break even or to take a small loss.

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't we start the day with nearly 200 million buys at the ask? Makes me think....

All these are just my opinions as a newbie

GLTA J&P out!
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
If we rally and close at .0009 or above, we will have a DOJI and the trend will once again be reversed. The curse of the Gambino
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
does anyone know the ratio of buys to sells?
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
Hey ! JARW

F**K YOURSELF ! DON'T mad at me when you lost money !

Yeah Jar, don't mad him, LMAO.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
this is actually a very good price to get in at
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
I'm sorry guys. I couldn't hang. 1.2M out at .0005 for a 33% loss. [Frown]
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
well i guess their shake worked
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Thank Christ I got back in.. at least I'm back up .0001.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
Rael, man! I would have held for a bit longer, this sucker HAS to go back up somewhere, I am sure u could have atleast broken even if not make some money
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Oh, back down.. nevermind.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Thank Christ I got back in.. at least I'm back up .0001.

Is the "contest" still on then?
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
can anyone tell me how to look up how many buys and sells there have been? thanks
 
Posted by Darth Vader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rael:
I'm sorry guys. I couldn't hang. 1.2M out at .0005 for a 33% loss. [Frown]

I woulda took them shares man. I've been trying to get in at .0005
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Hahahaha... DK, if it still hits .0018 - .002, YES, you get some my man.
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Of course...right after I sell, it upticks!

Happened to me too. Waaahhhhh! I also decided to get back in. Letitride, please pass the vodka.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
I can't believe people are letting the MM's cover their shorts at such a low price. They are just giving their money away!!!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Hahahaha... DK, if it still hits .0018 - .002, YES, you get some my man.

Good deal - I know that this is complete agony to watch, however, this will go back up. MM's should ride this up to those levels to make themselves some serious $$ from the cheap shares they bought today - You just have to play the game along with them. GLTA

[Wink]
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
LOL Vicki you to!!! *slides the new bottle your way* Just have to have patience, don't make me beg you two again to wait!
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
????

SON OF A BI*CH!!!!!

Ok, I'm back in, because I know these F*ckers gotta cover their shorts and it's gotta come back up.

*Sigh*

Now I know why many brokers drink so much.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
lol Vicki you to!! *passes you the new bottle* Don't make me beg you two again to wait!!


LOL Rael!!! that makes 3 of you! What am I going to do with you all
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Here is the short version of my story, I have been in this for what seems like an eternity now. I have bought chunks ranging anywhere from .0005 to .0009 and every where in between. In fact I sold my position in RSHN at .0012 (which I was also in at .0009, thanks JPHC). I have held onto this for so long with the hope of this great news, I am not about to just give it away in a panic. IMO the price will level off and we will run .0011 to .0014 as the merger date approaches. I am not saying that I wont bail at that price, I am just not going to give my $ to the MM's. F'em
 
Posted by Rael on :
 
I quit smoking two years ago.

I'm going out to have a cigarette and not looking at my stupid Etrade for the rest of the day.

I SAID GOOD DAY! [Smile]
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
I think I'd rather wait 2 years then let them make money of me!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
Zomg guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JPHC down 33% APOA down 33% , quick conspiracy theorists unite!
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rael:
I quit smoking two years ago.

I'm going out to have a cigarette and not looking at my stupid Etrade for the rest of the day.

I SAID GOOD DAY! [Smile]

DON'T DO IT RAEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Whew Repo! It's back up. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
Rael give me about 10 of those smokes lol
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
i had a beer this morning with my honey nut cheerios. we all have our ways to deal with stressful situations
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
i had a beer this morning with my honey nut cheerios. we all have our ways to deal with stressful situations

Touchee
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
aight guys im off to class, hold down the fort. Lets hope for some news EOD. GLTA!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
I just saw a tiny keg (size of a milk jug) at 7-11 for sale, I think I may go pick one up and put it in my desk at work here hehe
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
Let's all drink our sorrows away!!
 -
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
Or maybe smoke a "fat one"

 -
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Now were just getting silly. Bob's going to turn us in to the ATF, and it will have nothing to do with the fire arms.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
lol dkinvest
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Where's the STOCK STER when you need him?
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
lol dk! Wow, you can be funny without bashing PAIM!!! Who would've thought it was possible?
 
Posted by deleet on :
 
saw this on RB. Thought i'd post it for others to read.

From IHUB yesterday:

Posted by: wallymac
In reply to: Texbanker who wrote msg# 3568 Date:4/25/2006 8:13:56 PM
Post #of 3593


That's what happens when you join the party late, you miss what has been happening. Long before today the MM's have had a wall up. They have purposely stopped it from running. Those that have been here everyday watching will tell you.

It's pretty funny that a majority of those showing up today are the ones predicting gloom and doom. For the last couple of weeks, if you go back and read all the posts and DD that many of us have done, The MM's have refused to allow this to run in spite of tremendous buying pressure. Many of us have contacted the company and Loyal financial and have been told the O/S is right at 5 Billion shares. I called Yesterday and today I got the same response. I took names dates and times and let the person I was speaking to know this after getting the info.

We have gotten an independant valuation by Evans & Evans a well known and respected company that was a minimum of .004. Now we get details of the deal on SEC form 8K establishing a minimum value of .005.

There are about 8-10 people that were silent until today. Now they come out of the woodwork to preach the gloom and doom. Okay let's see APOA raise the A/S great many companies do but it doesn't change what the O/S or Float is now. Why did they do it? Okay they are taking over a company with 5 Billion Shares Outstanding. If you take 5 Billion and divide it by the current 4(.25) factor it gives you 1.25 Billion. Now if youe current A/S is 125 Million how do you accomplish this? Simple you have to raise the A/S. Will it dilute the value of APOA? I doubt it. You must take into consideration the fact that APOA has added the value of JPHC to their holdings. Their PPS today is at .012. a 52 week low by the way,(Do I hear a bounce in the room) Has been as high as .06 in the last 52 weeks and .02 within the last month. So the value is there.

You all are claiming inevitable dilution, I disagree. The A/S had to be raised to complete this deal. THe A/S was raised this month during the negotiations.

APOA is a fully reporting OTCBB company. WOW how many owners of Pink Sheet companies wish they were on the OTCBB?

One last point. We recently saw what happened with TWOG and the merger they had. What is different here? Easy, TWOG is still a shell. JPHC will have all the shares retired. It will no longer be trading. THe Shares we get in APOA will not I repeat Not be restricted. If it was a dividend and not a complete merger buyout then they coould be restricted. As the deal stands now. WE WILL GET A MINIMUM OF .005 and ALL share will have to be accounted for. The MM's will not be able to pawn it off on the new company or the old because the old shares are gone.

THIS IS SWEET.

JMVHO
WallyMac

 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
JPHC will have a chance to grow for 4 months
based on the following facts:

1. The MMs' accumulation phase is almost done;
2. JPHC will become a reporting company;
3. The combined rev will be about 30 M$/year
4. The APOA' pps is at 52-week low;
5. The MMs will raise the pps for a profit.
0.0005 is a good deal if you can hold it
for 4 months.
 
Posted by BigBoy on :
 
All I know is there is a lot of red on my board. I think even Bodie Miller could ski the slalom that is my portfolio!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
JimSC:

We can't sell after 4 months, it's either sell within 10 days or hold for 2 friggin years!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
I like that post from the other board. Brings me Peace, ...... *passes out from lack of sleep*
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
JimSC:

We can't sell after 4 months, it's either sell within 10 days or hold for 2 friggin years!

Where does it say we have to hold for 2 friggin years?
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
It doesn't say, just a guess that if it were restricted we would have to. But that other guy had a good point, this is a buy out, not a divi...anybody back that up? only divi shares can be restricted? Don't make me call my 400 dollar an hour SEC lawyer for an answer!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Dude, call IR for JPHC. They said you have to hold for 2 years.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Did I read it wrong as well? I thought I read where APO would become JPHC when they merged. APO would be the one to disappear from trading. Not sure where I read it or if I read it wrong.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Massive dumping just now.. hello .0004. Glad I bought back in!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
amswap I thought I read that myself, it was released somewhere, that JHPC would survive the buyout, I think it's a reverse buyout.
 
Posted by deleet on :
 
volume is over 2 billion

ticked back up to 0.0006
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Can we hold .0006 into the close!!! I sure hope so.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
When we see those landslides of sells, could it be that MM's are still shorting? Seems to odd that all of sudden, one minute trading is like a snail, and the next, there is a flurry of sells.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
lol Repo you were just sayin 4 here we come! You bring a smile to your face, I am going to buy you some pills to help you relax!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
lol Repo you were just sayin 4 here we come! You bring a smile to my face, I am going to buy you some pills to help you relax!


 
Posted by MovingUp on :
 
I thought I read that JPHC was surviving the buyout also but I've seen it posted else where that APOA filed for a name change.
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename %3D0001144204%252D06%252D015392%252Etxt%26filepath%3D%255C2006%255C04%255C17%255 C&symbol=APOA
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Hey Guys, call 1-800-963-6532. Speak to IR direct. Unless something has changed from last evening the shares ARE restricted per SEC rule 144. Only a portion may be traded after 1 year depending on share volume and then fully tradeable after 2 years. According to the PR and the 8K they are NOT going to register those shares when they are distributed. That is what I was told by Glen at the above mentioned number. TMAN... btw funny DK, i wonder how much of that was lit up last night after the pr broke. lol. TMAN...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
"It's over Johnny, it's over!" - First Blood
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
I've been debating buying more at this price. I can't convince myself one way or the other. What do you think Repoman? You've had some time to think about getting back in. Think you made a good decision? The only stock I have that has had a good day today is MRKL. Everything else stinks.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Here comes a dump again...
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Here comes a dump again...

the entire market is making me want to take a dump
 
Posted by th0th on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MovingUp:
I thought I read that JPHC was surviving the buyout also but I've seen it posted else where that APOA filed for a name change.
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/print_filings.jsp?url=%2Fredirect.asp%3Ffilename %3D0001144204%252D06%252D015392%252Etxt%26filepath%3D%255C2006%255C04%255C17%255 C&symbol=APOA

JPHC will not survive the buyout. It is not a reverse merger. Please read the following in bold. APOA's 8K:

"On April 21, 2006, APO Health, Inc., a Nevada corporation (“APO”), entered into a definitive Agreement and Plan of Merger (the “Merger Agreement”) with APO Health Acquisition Corp, Inc., a Nevada corporation and wholly-owned subsidiary of APO (“APO Acquisition”), and Jupiter Global Holdings, Corp., a Nevada corporation (“Jupiter”). The Merger Agreement provides that upon the terms and subject to the conditions set forth in the Merger Agreement, APO Acquisition will merge with and into Jupiter, with Jupiter being the surviving corporation (the “Surviving Corporation”) and a wholly-owned subsidiary of APO (the “Merger”).

At the Effective Time (as defined below) of the Merger, (a) pursuant to the terms of APO’s certificate of incorporation and the Merger Agreement, each share of Common Stock of Surviving Corporation issued and outstanding immediately prior to the Effective Time shall be converted into and become a right to receive one-quarter (0.25) of a share of common stock of APO (the “Conversion Price”), subject to adjustment as described herein (the “Issuable Shares”), and shall automatically be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist. The Conversion Price is based on $0.02 per share, the market price of APO’s common stock at the time of execution of the Merger Agreement (“Market Price”). The Conversion Price shall be adjusted proportionately should the average closing sale price of APO’s common stock for the 20 consecutive trading days prior to the closing date be greater or less than the Market Price."

And here is JPHC's Form 15 (Certification and notice of TERMINATION of shares):

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1088199/000110801706000309/jupiter1512g.h tm
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by th0th:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MovingUp:
[qb] APO Acquisition will merge with and into Jupiter, with Jupiter being the surviving corporation (the “Surviving Corporation”) and a wholly-owned subsidiary of APO (the “Merger”).

Whooop, there it is!! APO goes.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Actually, APO will be a subsidiary of JPHC if I am reading this right.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
odd it says in the first parigraph Jupitor would be the surviving corporation
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
The name apparently continues though... This snip is from the post above from thoth...The Merger Agreement provides that upon the terms and subject to the conditions set forth in the Merger Agreement, APO Acquisition will merge with and into Jupiter, with Jupiter being the surviving corporation (the “Surviving Corporation”) and a wholly-owned subsidiary of APO (the “Merger”).
TMAN...
 
Posted by NEL on :
 
This sounds like JPHC is the survivor?

APO Acquisition will merge with and into Jupiter, with Jupiter being the surviving corporation

This sounds like the "new shares" will cease to exist?
...and shall automatically be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist
 
Posted by reidler88 on :
 
like alot of other people on this board,,
i made some money on this
but then just lost half of it,,,
so if anyone pitty's me,,, send me some good picks so i can get my funds back up,,,
i lost my job this week and now this,,
so i am feeling really down,,,,
and feeling kinda broke [Frown]
thnx
 
Posted by th0th on :
 
OMG what is this.. selective reading??

"The Merger Agreement provides that upon the terms and subject to the conditions set forth in the Merger Agreement, APO Acquisition will merge with and into Jupiter, with Jupiter being the surviving corporation (the “Surviving Corporation”) and a wholly-owned subsidiary of APO (the “Merger”)."

So we all agree that JPHC is the "Surviving Corporation". NOW READ ON!

"At the Effective Time (as defined below) of the Merger, (a) pursuant to the terms of APO’s certificate of incorporation and the Merger Agreement, each share of Common Stock of Surviving Corporation issued and outstanding immediately prior to the Effective Time shall be converted into and become a right to receive one-quarter (0.25) of a share of common stock of APO (the “Conversion Price”), subject to adjustment as described herein (the “Issuable Shares”), and shall automatically be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist."

Translation: JPHC, the "surviving corporation", shares shall be converted to one-quarter share of APO, and JPHC shares shall automatically be cancelled and retired and shall cease to exist.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
Hey Guys, call 1-800-963-6532. Speak to IR direct. Unless something has changed from last evening the shares ARE restricted per SEC rule 144. Only a portion may be traded after 1 year depending on share volume and then fully tradeable after 2 years. According to the PR and the 8K they are NOT going to register those shares when they are distributed. That is what I was told by Glen at the above mentioned number. TMAN... btw funny DK, i wonder how much of that was lit up last night after the pr broke. lol. TMAN...

If that's the case, then this is a horrible deal. In effect the company is saying that the money that you have invested here is now theirs for 2 years, you can't touch it. In addition to that, they are going to take away 75% of your existing shares and issue you new shares in a company that just increased their a/s to 25 billion. In 2 years time, the chances are good that the new company won't be around or will have reverse split itself into oblivion. Not trying to be a basher here but in my opinion this is going to wind up being a total loss for anyone that stays in after the merger.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
So right now, we're making money as long as APO stays above .002?

AMSWAP - don't take my advice... my timing is worse than a broken wristwatch.
 
Posted by reidler88 on :
 
like alot of other people on this board,,
i made some money on this
but then just lost half of it,,,
so if anyone pitty's me,,, send me some good picks so i can get my funds back up,,,
i lost my job this week and now this,,
so i am feeling really down,,,,
and feeling kinda broke [Frown]
thnx
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
reidler did you sell?? Keep your chin up I hope you didn't sell, this will move back up, maybe not far, maybe very far, just hold and wait and atleast break even! Don't panic
 
Posted by RockLobster on :
 
wow my heart goes out to the bag holders of this one.. it's not over until the fat lady sings, but DAMN, i definetly did not expect this to happen. Can't imagine the people who bought at .0012+.. I got out way too early, but seems like i also dodged a potential disaster.. GLTA
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
I'll bet your timing is far better than mine! I think with all the news about the reverse and splits and 2 years and .......... I'll just live with what I have in there and put my money into something else I have a chance to make on that won't take me 2 years to get.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
IF YOU ARE CONFUSED READ THIS:


heres what will happen if you hold until May 10th or whenever this goes through...

Take how many shares you have of JPHC and multiply it times .005, that how much money of stock you will have in APOA, thats fact.

HOWEVER..and this is a BIG however...

APOA is a POS company and its shares are garbage IMO. Meaning, when the shares are handed out to all old JPHC investors, they will dump immediatly, thus driving the price of APOA to nothing, therefore your shares are worth nothing (or close to nothing).

FORTUNATLY..this will not happen because the shares WILL be restricted from what I gathered in the 8-k/ been reading around the boards. So that means you will not be able to touch your newly aquired APOA shares for a year, and after that there will still be restrictions on how much/when you can sell.

That is what will happen.

The PPS of both companies is dropping because this is in fact a MERGER, not a true buyout. APOA is absorbing all of JPHC's shares, they arent paying cash, because they have NONE. Basically this is two POS companies joining into one POS company.

Noone wants to wait 2 years for their money, espicially when they are in a POS like APOA. Thats why everyone is selling.

Heres the potential upside though...

You go through the merger and two years from now APOA is a profitable company, and your shares are worth .10/share. Then BOOM you just made quite a nice porfit. See thats the risk here, and I am not putting any money on APOA. Do your DD on them, they are changing their name and entering a whole new industry so that they can scam us again.

This is one of the biggest scams in history IMO. Now JPHC can take all of our money and keep it for 2 years.
 
Posted by stockinthemud on :
 
I bet we stay around this level until the middle of next week, then start climbing back up. I still plan on making money off this biznitch!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
EOD dump!
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
Everyone (including me) have been wondering how there was so much anticipation to this deal and then we get it and all the sudden we are down 75%.

Its because we didnt consider the fact that JPHC would be absorbed by a POS company. If we were bought out by a blue chip, then we would all be laughing to the bank, and wouldnt care if it were shares or cash or restricted or non-resticted, because they would be worth a ton of money.
 
Posted by reidler88 on :
 
i bought some at .0007 and some at .001
and i sold some today at .0005
i dont know if this will go back to .0008 or close,,
what does everyone else think,,,, think this can go back up
or should i just flush this turd
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
How did you people find this stock... can't you spot these scams by now?
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
I am not a very experienced trader (about a year) and i knew in the back of my mind the whole time that this was a scam. I have only myself to blame. I even did DD on JPHC and found out it had scammed before, but do you know what I did? I listened to all the pumpers and couldnt see past the BS. I let greed overcome my trading.

LEARN FROM THIS...

Trading lessons are expensive!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
From 4-21-2006 PR:

....no assurances can be given that an acquisition or merger transaction will be actually closed by the parties or that such a transaction will be approved by our shareholders, if required .

I assume that the shareholders have no say in this deal? If not, in what case would it be required?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
But here's my question.

Let's assume this is 1 big scam. How will the majority stakeholders of JPHC make money if their billions of shares are restricted for 2 years and by that time, their investment has gone to sh1t?

The whole point of scams is to make money!
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
But here's my question.

Let's assume this is 1 big scam. How will the majority stakeholders of JPHC make money if their billions of shares are restricted for 2 years and by that time, their investment has gone to sh1t?

The whole point of scams is to make money!

Becuase now they have everyones money and stakeholders cant touch it.
 
Posted by iamfine on :
 
wow, that sounds really serious. I put orders and bought 2M shares at price of 0006. If above is true, and bad thing happens, then all my money could be trashed. Man, that is really sad.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
JPHC executives have lines their pockets with shareholders money for years. Now they have a quick out...merge and wash their hands with it. They are rich and shareholders are F*CKED.

I lost money on this too, I am just trying to help everyone see what is REALLY going on. Call me a basher I don't care, I am being a REALIST.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
AOPA 4/26 = .0073

For the last 20 trading days, the avg close price has been 0.015365

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=APOA.OB

Ups our holdings from .25 per share of AOPA to .32

Went from 1:4 to 1:3 exchange ratio - Eureeka, I found a positive... I think.
 
Posted by db on :
 
your a basher
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
Well that average is going down, because APOA just closed down 40%. And it will contiue to fall, until we are getting a fraction of 1 APOA share for every JPHC share we own. HAHAHHA

I can't believe how big of a scam this is...and WORSE, its legal.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
"Welcome to Wal-Mart, can I help you." Just practicing for my retirement. GDMFS.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Now I know how Hitler felt during the final days of WWII... no hope, no escape, no waking up from the nightmare.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by db:
your a basher

I will contiue to bash then. You guys can put all the makeup you want on this pig, its still a pig. I dont care if the coversion ration is 10:1, APOA's shares are worthless.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
What if APOA turns around its business? Then its not worthless.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
AOPA 4/26 = .0073
Eureeka, I found a positive... I think.

I would say you did until I read all the scenarios out there. We might just have to call this one an expensive lesson. Those lining their pockets with my money wil end uplosing somewhere else. I'm a strong believer that what goes around comes around. Now I'm trying to figure out what the heck I did to get into this POS!
 
Posted by Doniboy on :
 
Wow, I have been readig this thread since the buy-out news and I feel bad for you guys, but it was damned interesting reading.

Repo, you were out man, why did you get back in??
 
Posted by Skyman on :
 
How liable are the owners/managers of JPHC for such a bad deal?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Well, I could always get back out... not like I booked a profit or anything.

The company says more PR's are on the way before the closing of the merger... we'll see what they are saying. Bunch of azz clowns.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
What if APOA turns around its business? Then its not worthless.

Well you can be the judge of that. They are dropping their old business plan and apparantly starting a new venture with MACRO I think.

Obviously, JPHC didnt think MACRO was going anywhere, so why should I?

WHats the time frame for a POS to get going, I don't know i havent been around long enough.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Skyman:
How liable are the owners/managers of JPHC for such a bad deal?

They're not.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
From 4-21-2006 PR:

....no assurances can be given that an acquisition or merger transaction will be actually closed by the parties or that such a transaction will be approved by our shareholders, if required .

I assume that the shareholders have no say in this deal? If not, in what case would it be required?


 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
First everyone says to brace for the games, and I hear talk about all the shorts - and now everyone is crying about the price.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I'm crying yep. Crying, puking... I'm just waiting for the ulcer and heart attack to finish me off.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
I would really liek to see what happens to APOA over the next few weeks, why the hell would they absorb 9 Billion shares?

Maybe JPHC scammed APOA, who knows?

I hope that maybe something miarculous will happen over the next few days, with some PR. I dont see how though, unless the shares arent restricted, but they wouldnt do that because APOA would go under before it was even up.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
From 4-21-2006 PR:

....no assurances can be given that an acquisition or merger transaction will be actually closed by the parties or that such a transaction will be approved by our shareholders, if required .

I assume that the shareholders have no say in this deal? If not, in what case would it be required?


The shareholders have no say because Mr. Hawkins and one other insider have controlling interest via preferred shares that have conversion rates equal to or greater than 50% of the o/s.
 
Posted by db on :
 
I have to disagree with jdg - it's still to early see where this will go till 5/10 anybody who sold today at .0005 at a loss should have waited - people playing this game with too much emotion - maybe even lower tomorrow but before 5/10 things could be better than this - a positive pr from JPHC
IMO
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I don't see how management is going to be able to pull a rabbit out of its hat to save their azzes... or our azzes.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
Who wants to start a business, put out phony PR's and issue stock like until we are filthy rich then dump the POS company on someone else so we can retire, and not fear the SEC at all because it all legal? Seriously, whos in?
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
What happened to all the hype about longs owning 2.5 billion shares and that was only 150 of the 1900 stockholders.

If that is the case, I would like my proxy so I can vote NO
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Jdg - I've already started the process...

I have an idea/product, I know how to get listed on the pinks, I have already talked to a "marketing" firm (aka, pump n dump firm) to help me get the company name out there. Probably hear from me in about 6 months.

No need for phony PR's.. just need to embelish.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
From 3-20-2006 PR:

...... Ray Hawkins, CEO of JUPITER, commented: "The Company set a plan in place, and many of the aspects of that plan are coming together. Shareholders should be very pleased with Management's expectations and enthusiasm." ........

They said that we should be very pleased. Are we? [Confused]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I'd love to SKULL F*CK Ray Hawkins right now... piece of trash. What's his e-mail?
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I'd love to SKULL F*CK Ray Hawkins right now... piece of trash. What's his e-mail?

LMAO - Good choice of words.

BTW, how can you skullf*ck him through e-mail?
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by db:
I have to disagree with jdg - it's still to early see where this will go till 5/10 anybody who sold today at .0005 at a loss should have waited - people playing this game with too much emotion - maybe even lower tomorrow but before 5/10 things could be better than this - a positive pr from JPHC
IMO

I can agree with you there, their is a lot of emotion and panic selling involved and that may play a role in what unfolds. However I dont see this getting to .005 (or whatever the valuation is) ever. It may get back up to .001 though. Its gonna hit resistance on every tick. Also if MM's still have to cover then that could help, even though I don't think there are as many shorts as everyone is saying, because MM's are REAL smart and almost never get caught with thier pants down. This will be real interesting though.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
NEWS>>>>>None of my stocks had news today except flst and it sucked. TMAN...
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
alright, just WAIT, it may be to risky for me to hold through the merger but hell if I am going to sell now. IMHO this will go up even if its just a little bit before the merger and then sell. Or hold if more news comes out about the whole thing and you like it. Just my thoughts. Good luck to all and lets atleast get our money back or sell for a small profit
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
I tried to buy at .0005 today and the bastuds wouldnt sell to me. I am starting to hate my life. TMAN...
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Jdg - I've already started the process...

I have an idea/product, I know how to get listed on the pinks, I have already talked to a "marketing" firm (aka, pump n dump firm) to help me get the company name out there. Probably hear from me in about 6 months.

No need for phony PR's.. just need to embelish.

Nice, I'm in. Who else? we need to raise capital...i think we need a company value of 1mil to get listed.
 
Posted by db on :
 
who really thinks JPHC will go down to .0001 and apoa below .0002
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
Repo by the way,

You still have shares, if so, what price and how much.

I got out at .0006, and some at .0007 at about a 10% loss.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
I dont know what the bottom is but I think it will have a dead cat bounce between now and late next week. Most hypsters will say "see this is a great deal it is the greatest thing since sliced bread" and I will be dumping like a mofo. TMAN...
 
Posted by db on :
 
I try to be positive but this really did suck today oh well maybe tomorrow
 
Posted by db on :
 
I with you TMAN sell after the DCB lol!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I'd love to SKULL F*CK Ray Hawkins right now... piece of trash. What's his e-mail?

LMAO - Good choice of words.

BTW, how can you skullf*ck him through e-mail?


 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
I did that with Enron and broke even when it went from .25 to 1.00 after they filed for bk. IT was my greatest move. That of course after my worse move of buying into that pos. lol. Maybe its time for history to repeat it self. TMAN...
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
I have to agree. The lower APOA goes, the worse for us. Its a fact we are getting whatever APOA's 20 day avg prior to closing date is and we r getting a 1/4 of the value.
Example: 4 JPHC= 1 APOA.
Example 2: JPHC bought at .001 is equal to APOA at a 20 day avg of .004.

So u all better hope APOA avg is much higher then .004 and u get JPHC as low as possible.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
Analysis based on my position and today's close of .0005

 -

The lower APOA goes, but better our exchange ratio and lessens our risk going forward
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
Just curious who thinks they're going to hold through the merger at this point in time?
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
Rosiesearch, how come u keep saying the buyout price is .005?

I clearly states we get 1/4 of APOA's stock at the 20 day avg price. thats the conversion rate.

so if APOA is at .005, our shares are worth 25% of that.

Am I wrong here guys......please, if anyone disagrees, please let me know why.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
No way could I hold this stock for 1 or 2 yrs without being able to do anything but watch.

Im out before closing date for sure or maybe keep small portion in to see what happens in next couple yrs.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
ROI, your analysis is based on the .005 price of JPHC, which seems to still be in question. Half of us think .005 is the JPHC price and half of us say "No, the 1/4 is the exchange rate, so if APO goes down, our shares of APO after the conversion go down."

I'm not sure which to believe and am too lazy at this point to call anyone for confirmation [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
Analysis based on my position and today's close of .0005

 -

The lower APOA goes, but better our exchange ratio and lessens our risk going forward


 
Posted by db on :
 
for me to hold JPHC would have to go over .0015 and evrything else about this would have to be golden - then maybe some of my shares would ride and that would be for curiosity
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Chad,


I just wrote a post and it didn't go through, so I won't retype the whole thing, but here's the source of the confusion.

"As consideration in the merger transaction, APO has agreed to exchange shares of its common stock ("the Issuable Shares") with JUPITER's shareholders at an exchange ratio, which is subject to adjustment under the Merger Agreement that values the JUPITER shares at $0.005 per common share."

So this part says the EXCHANGE RATIO is adjustable, not th e.005 JPHC price.

See where the confusion is coming from?
 
Posted by DQ. on :
 
So why in the he77 is the price falling. Should have gapped up this morning and never looked back. Go figure???
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
.005 is the buyout number

The 20 days preceding the closing of this transaction will determine our exchange ratio of JPHC:APOA

If APOA were .02, we'd receive .25 shares of APOA per JPHC share

If APOA were .015, we'd receive .333 shares of APOA per JPHC share

If APOA were .01, we'd receive .5 shares of APOA per JPHC share

Since the transaction has not closed, and isn't expected to close until 5/10 or 5/30 (I have to reread the 8k), we are still in the 20 day period preceding the closing of this transaction. Anyone that says otherwise is full of bs

The lower APOA goes during this 20 day period preceding the close of the transaction is only beneficial to JPHC longs.

Once the conversion happens, then you want APOA to go up. Until then, let it drop like a rock
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I have 3 mil. at .001 (original buy price)
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Do you see where Chad is coming from though? the APO PR seems to imply that the 1/4 is the number that's locked in. They never mention the .005.


quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
.005 is the buyout number

The 20 days preceding the closing of this transaction will determine our exchange ratio of JPHC:APOA

If APOA were .02, we'd receive .25 shares of APOA per JPHC share

If APOA were .015, we'd receive .333 shares of APOA per JPHC share

If APOA were .01, we'd receive .5 shares of APOA per JPHC share

Since the transaction has not closed, and isn't expected to close until 5/10 or 5/30 (I have to reread the 8k), we are still in the 20 day period preceding the closing of this transaction. Anyone that says otherwise is full of bs

The lower APOA goes during this 20 day period preceding the close of the transaction is only beneficial to JPHC longs.

Once the conversion happens, then you want APOA to go up. Until then, let it drop like a rock


 
Posted by th0th on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
[QB] Do you see where Chad is coming from though? the APO PR seems to imply that the 1/4 is the number that's locked in. They never mention the .005.

Yes, but Chad's 1/4 number is fixed. In the 8K filed by APOA, it's the contrary:

"...one-quarter (0.25) of a share of common stock of APO (the “Conversion Price”), subject to adjustment as described herein (the “Issuable Shares”), and shall automatically be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist. The Conversion Price is based on $0.02 per share, the market price of APO’s common stock at the time of execution of the Merger Agreement (“Market Price”). The Conversion Price shall be adjusted proportionately should the average closing sale price of APO’s common stock for the 20 consecutive trading days prior to the closing date be greater or less than the Market Price."

The "conversion price", that is .25 or 1/4, will be adjusted proportionately to APO's share price, which means the "conversion price of 1/4 (.25)" is NOT FIXED.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
No, I htink that the "conversion price" is the price of APO common stockl (that's where the parenthetical is)

Either way, my point is neither side should be saying "you're wrong" until we get some clarification. Just trying to play the neutral party here and say both arguments seem valid.

quote:
Originally posted by th0th:
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
[QB] Do you see where Chad is coming from though? the APO PR seems to imply that the 1/4 is the number that's locked in. They never mention the .005.

Yes, but Chad's 1/4 number is fixed. In the 8K filed by APOA, it's the contrary:

"...one-quarter (0.25) of a share of common stock of APO (the “Conversion Price”), subject to adjustment as described herein (the “Issuable Shares”), and shall automatically be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist. The Conversion Price is based on $0.02 per share, the market price of APO’s common stock at the time of execution of the Merger Agreement (“Market Price”). The Conversion Price shall be adjusted proportionately should the average closing sale price of APO’s common stock for the 20 consecutive trading days prior to the closing date be greater or less than the Market Price."

The "conversion price", that is .25 or 1/4, will be adjusted proportionately to APO's share price, which means the "conversion price of 1/4 (.25)" is NOT FIXED.


 
Posted by th0th on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
No, I htink that the "conversion price" is the price of APO common stockl (that's where the parenthetical is)

Either way, my point is neither side should be saying "you're wrong" until we get some clarification. Just trying to play the neutral party here and say both arguments seem valid.

Oh I definitely agree that we should get some clarification. I am basing the "conversion price" to be the same definition in the investor world:

http://www.investorwords.com/1104/conversion_price.html

which clearly, if based on that definition, to be .25 and not the price of APOA common stock.

Now if I am wrong and it isn't, then I would like to slap the person that wrote the 8K for APOA, because saying that the "Conversion Price is based on $0.02 per share, the market price of APO’s common stock" is different than saying Conversion Price is $0.02 per share, the market price of APO's common stock.
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
Analysis based on my position and today's close of .0005

 -

The lower APOA goes, but better our exchange ratio and lessens our risk going forward

Thanks for the post. We'll have to see what tomorrow brings. GLTA.
 
Posted by Porsche on :
 
Someone said something about dividends......anyone heard anything like that?
I do not think we will stay at .0005 forever. Just everyone scared and selling to others who want to make some $$$ and are going to!
 
Posted by DrWho on :
 
For many of the Longs here, this was NOT a play for new stock. It was based on the buyout/merger price and the probably Short Squeeze that was to come as the float was, and has been exausted for quite awhile.

I notice even though the price dropped to .0005, not many if ANY could buy at that price, and there was ALSO a ton of bashers still out there giving out false information. If there are no shorters, or the shorters have covered over the last 2 days...

Why are they bashing a stock that is already in the endgame? Because they havnt come CLOSE to covering, and only 9 more trading days remaining.

I also want to check out what the percentage of buys to sells that occurred today, because there were some MONSTER buys that came in.

Anyway, just food for thought... this is just day one after the PR... some interesting things may come before the merger, and Im looking at the short squeeze more a new restricted stock...

And so are the longs who still control the float.

The Doctor
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
unlucky day for everyone !
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Except you. You're so cool, can I be like you when I grow up?

quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
unlucky day for everyone !


 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
JPHC should be better for tommorow. If so, I will get in !

Goodluck to all of you !
 
Posted by 2fstws6 on :
 
Better tommorow ?? please tell me why you think that.Iam down 60% right now.I am sure glad I did not buy many shares at .0012
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
He just likes to tweak people. Pay no attention to him. He goes from saying "this stock will be .0001 by the end of the day" to "I will buy if it hits .0003" and back again in consecutive posts. If he thinks it's going to .0001 I doubt he'd be buying [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by 2fstws6:
Better tommorow ?? please tell me why you think that.Iam down 60% right now.I am sure glad I did not buy many shares at .0012


 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
repo did you actually report DC17 to the SEC? he needs to burn in h3ll
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Chad, yesterday you claimed to be new at this. I believe you about that.

Hey Doc, if you read this I would appreciate one more honest answer...

Did your group acquire their JPHC shares on the open market (all, part, or none)?


---------------------

Nothing has changed since yesterday, don't forget the plan... wait for the s-q-u-e-e-z-e and don't get caught in the trading halt before lock-in date.

If JPHC goes down to .0002, I'll buy more at .0003. Nobody here is going to get filled at the bid, but they can't stop 3s. Apply the same tactic if JPHC goes down to .0001/.0002.

If APOA goes down to .0001, I will probably die from self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head before forcing myself to pick up some cheap shares.

Disclosure - if I choose to convert any shares, it's because I can afford to do so for the lesson value, not because I think it's a good long hold.
 
Posted by BigBoy on :
 
I don't know what is going on with it. All of my picks tanked this week. I am thinking of selling off everything, taking it to sportsbook.com and putting it all on Bucky to win American Idol!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
they have that game rigged too. I just watched CNN and it said people have machines that auto vote for people. The girl from that small town in georgia has had her votes beefed up because the local telephone company gave the town free text messaging. town population 6,000k votes from that town 11k. I wouldnt be surprised to see DC17 behind this too. =P
 
Posted by xnycen on :
 
good big boy hhahaha mine too...my profolio went down by 70% today..!! ahha AHAHHHAhahahaha
ahah omg!!!!!! i can't stop laughing at myself..!!
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
QUICK RODGER I NEED 50cc's OF VALIUM STAT
 
Posted by GVMOORE on :
 
Roger make that valium rectal for sbrcow.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
what ever kills the pain man, what ever kills the pain. 8mil short =/
 
Posted by BigBoy on :
 
I feel like Vegas Vacation where the dealer tells Clark just to save the time, give him all of his money and he will take him in the back alley and kick him in the junk.
 
Posted by GVMOORE on :
 
Man I could use a road trip. Good night and GLTA
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
Hey guys. Yes Tick, I am new fairly new to trading. and I never intended to upset anyone, sorry if I did.

However, after reading the PR's, though partly vague, its pretty clear to me.

At the time of announcement, they valued JPHC at .005 and APOA at .02. However, it states that both values are subject to change. (and change they will).

The exchange rate is clear. JPHC share equals 1/4 of APOA share at 20 day avg. (we should be able to figure that out by day 18).

Thus, by the closing date, whatever APOA avg is, You'll get 1/4 of that. (JPHC will be priced at one quarter of that amount).

Therefore, to me, it seems a person would want APOA to be valued at a high price and to get JPHC at a low price at time of conversion.

Example: I buy JPHC at 006., then say APOA avg is .01 for conversion. ( My 1 share of JPHC is now worth .0025.)

SO, right off the bat, Ive made a 400% gain.

though I doubt MM's will let that happen, which is why you see APOA price dropping.

If believe whole-heartedly Im right on reading the Statements the sent out, but maybe Im not. Only the reader can decide I guess.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
Im not sure though if its definitive about whether this stock can be sold anytime, or we have to hold for a yr 1st, or if we have to hold for 2 yrs before you can sell.

Thats the part that really scares me.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Chad, the way you're converting shares is wrong. See Vicki's post above. If you hold your jphc shares will be worth .005 at the time of conversion. If apoa drops to .005 then it will be a 1 to 1 conversion. If apoa is .01 then it will be a 1(apoa) to 2(jphc) conversion.

Basically, the more apoa tanks before the conversion the more shares you would end up with.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
Ajman. I guess we are all interpreting it differently. oh well. As long as in the end we make money. right? Good Luck to all...I just hope we all can make a little green. [Smile]
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
G'Morning Chad,

I'll put together a post for you this morning. Nobody is upset and I didn't have time to post more last night... but you made me smile, even a chuckle or two. Hope you didn't take offense at my comment.

Hang on.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
G'Morning Tick, well at least Im good for something. lol
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Got my azz lubed up, and ready for another rear end pounding!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BigBoy:
I don't know what is going on with it. All of my picks tanked this week. I am thinking of selling off everything, taking it to sportsbook.com and putting it all on Bucky to win American Idol!

Well if you are gonna bet on Bucky to win, you have already lost your money - He was already voted off.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Got my azz lubed up, and ready for another rear end pounding!

lol
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Look at ETRD sitting on the Bid with 99999999. Think this is going anywhere for a while? Wht the hell don't they try to sell one more f'n share. What are they trying to say. I hate this. hateithateithateit.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Any guesses for today? Do you believe in miracles?
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
All newbies start out upside-down, it takes less effort to empty their pockets that way. It's either a law or a disease, I'm not sure. Some survive and some don't.

OK, let's see if I can line this out for you...

First, when it comes to SEC filings, never read portions or summaries until after you have gone to edgaronline and read the entire filing. When reading them, keep the definitions in mind, usually found at the top of the filing and throughout the filing - usually in parenthesis, quotes, or both.

For example, I cut this from a few pages back...

At the Effective Time (as defined below) of the Merger, (a) pursuant to the terms of APO’s certificate of incorporation and the Merger Agreement, each share of Common Stock of Surviving Corporation issued and outstanding immediately prior to the Effective Time shall be converted into and become a right to receive one-quarter (0.25) of a share of common stock of APO (the “Conversion Price”) , subject to adjustment as described herein (the “Issuable Shares”), and shall automatically be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist. The Conversion Price is based on $0.02 per share, the market price of APO’s common stock at the time of execution of the Merger Agreement (“Market Price”). The Conversion Price shall be adjusted proportionately should the average closing sale price of APO’s common stock for the 20 consecutive trading days prior to the closing date be greater or less than the Market Price."

In the above paragraph, examples of definition...
Effective Time is further clarified by (as defined below). uh-oh, not in this cut.
Surviving Corporation is not defined in this cut and paste, uh-oh, not good.
one-quarter (0.25) of a share of common stock of APO is further clarified as (the “Conversion Price”)

The last sentence in this cut can be read as...

The one-quarter (0.25) of a share of common stock of APO shall be adjusted proportionately should the average closing sale price of APO’s common stock for the 20 consecutive trading days prior to the closing date be greater or less than the Market Price.

You need to go to edgaronline often anyway and look for DEF, PRE, and other filings that don't necessarily get posted anywhere else. When I don't have time to keep up with sneaky stuff, I depend on *Magnetic*Microspheres* forum for reverse splits as a temporary shortcut. He's saved me a few times.

Is this making sense? I saw this (confusion) coming when we were back and forth yesterday. Maybe we need a sign 'All Newbies Clear the Room for a Moment'???
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Got my azz lubed up, and ready for another rear end pounding!

Me, too, repo.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
I just hope this goes up enough for me to bail!
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
Tick, the only that makes sense to me at this point, is nothing makes sense anymore. lol
Ah well, I just hope that JPHC goes back over .001 in the next 10 days. [Smile]

I do however appreciate your taking time to do research and entry. thank you.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by amswap:
I just hope this goes up enough for me to bail!

I think a lot of people are thinking the same thing.
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TickTrader:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Got my azz lubed up, and ready for another rear end pounding!

Me, too, repo.
Ya'll are too funny!! God I hope you are wrong!! Good luck today.
 
Posted by iamfine on :
 
Looks like things will cause panic sell. Not sure how serious it will be. Just hope it is going up agin.
 
Posted by DQ. on :
 
Should go to .005 if people can read.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
I put in my order in for 10M at .0001 - I need to seriously average down!!
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
premarket is looking BAAAAAD
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I put my sell order in for .002. Yes, I am criminally insane.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I put my sell order in for .002. Yes, I am criminally insane.

That would mean I would be getting a fat check from you, huh?

lol
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
me too, 15M at .0001
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Repo, I almost just had a heart attack, I though thre was another 0 in there and you were selling BELOW the bid [Smile]
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Today is a good day to set an alarm when the price is right and go do something else. I'm more positive this morning after seeing that gap at 0002 and 0003 filled by a few MMs. That was the gap the shorts were trying to hit. Take a look at the ask side. These guys have marked the territory in 100% gain intervals with retrace room. It's gonna be a rollercoaster ride up until the last.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
All buys and we never move.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
I was told they are looking into an exemption.

Best Regards,

Ash Mascarenhas

Loyola Financial Services
2501 North Green Valley Pkwy, Suite 110-D
Henderson, Nevada 89014
702.317.2300 (office)
702.317-2301 (fax)
702.974-0388 (e-fax)
ash*4LFS.com
www.4LFS.com
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Exemption to the restriction?? Hmm...
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
good morning all......... Please be gentle with me my JPHC
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
I was told they are looking into an exemption.


To what???
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by amswap:
quote:
Originally posted by roiresearch:
I was told they are looking into an exemption.


To what???
Exemption from azz pounding?
 
Posted by xray44b9 on :
 
Guys--FYI-Ash Mascarenhas is the founder of Loyola EOM
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
no, they want an Exemption from us beating their azz
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Welll it's too late for that! Didn't we get the azz pounding yesterday?
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
LMAO while being pounded in the azz.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
how about an exemption from this stupid merger. Hawkins doesnt want his cash in worthless APOA shares that he cant bail on for 2 years. i start to think more and more that this deal isnt going through. it doesnt make sense
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
If this exemption is true, MM's are setting up for the perfect storm... they'll run this up all the way to .0015
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
way too much sodomy
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
OK dk. Today you are prohibited from using the P... word or I am going to send someone over there to clean out your account and invest it all in JPHC!!!

Does that scare you straight or what?
 
Posted by steef on :
 
news today ????????????????
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
lol
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
news? This is like the Twilight Zone....omg I bet we are all on some sort of hidden camera show...soon they will jump out from under our desk and say HAHA it's all a joke
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I have a quick survey for you all.

How many of you have enough money in this that you are really worried/upset/ in trouble if the price doesn't go back up?

Obviously the amount will be different for everyone, so it's not like a competition, just did you get past your comfort zone and the rule of "never trade with money you can't afford to lose"?

I'm pretty borderline. If I lost it all I'd be pretty mad at myself for gettin sucked in to something like this, but luckily it wouldn't be a straw that broke the camels back type of thing, and the money wasn't earmarked for anything in the near future.

Anyone here in the position where if this doesn't get you back most of your capital you're in bad shape?

Just curious.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
even worse throw it in QBID he will nevre be able to get it back!
 
Posted by iamfine on :
 
yesterday, I could not help kicking myself. For a minute, I was so in panic. But, on second thought, putting money into it, is itself risky. So, whatever it is, just face it. Always see the bright side. One thing to remember is not too greedy.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
If I lose it ALL, I may contemplate suicide.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
You guys all seem to have an unhealthy obsesssion with being pounded in the a$$, if I didn't know better I would think you enjoyed it. A$$ pirates
And I mean that in the nicest way.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
With my picking habits (or timing habits - right repo?), everything I seem to do lately is causing me to be in bad shape.
I don't put any money in this market that I can't afford to lose. While I hate losing, it happens. Actually, I've been doing this for about 2 years and I am not in the red, so it's their money. It's gambling to me. Win some , lose some. The ride is a lot of fun.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
JPHC stockholders have an anal fixation woo hoo
 
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
 
i got out of this stock...could have been nice if it was a cash deal but it isn't so wrong bet..no one to blame, its the name of the game...now putting all the money in my 2 babies NDOL And AURC (same management and both up again :-) GLTA
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
I am just playing with my fun money. My real money is in the Dow and Nasdaq. These are to risky to bet your life on. I have about 10g in these pinks, 2 of which was in JPHC so I am a little pissed but not broken.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
I only have about $1,000 in this. I still think it is going to go up somewhat. patience (i hope)
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
i think it will also...it makes no sense for it to stay at these values for the next 10 days.

even still, this is making me sick.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
i will tell my story if someone buys my 8mil at .0006.
EDIT: jesus they are talking about a RS now on RB and you guys wonder why we talk about getting azz r*p3d
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
i will tell my story if someone buys my 8mil at .0006

Go to your room, No soup for you.
 
Posted by iamfine on :
 
I bought 2M at 0.0006. That sadness is almost over after a flip-flop sleeping night
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Cornholio???
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
JPHC stockholders have an anal fixation woo hoo

Clarification:

"Some JPHC stockholders have an anal fixation".
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
i dont think JPHC really actually cares if we have an anal fixation....
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
i will tell my story if someone buys my 8mil at .0006.
EDIT: jesus they are talking about a RS now on RB and you guys wonder why we talk about getting azz r*p3d

They are a bunch of negative f'rs over on RB, thats why I like it over here. Everyone is so positive and up beat, anal fixation aside (<---laughing quitely to myself)
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
All freaking buys and no movement.

Almost 200mil in volume and I see 3 sells, one of which was a $78 mirror trade of 195000
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
no trade on APOA for over an hour ?
 
Posted by iamfine on :
 
This is like psycholigical warfare between those MM and us. I will hold it for a while to see what really happens in the last
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
God, my account chart looks like a dam ski jump. Not funny.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
ha is it going back up? gotta have that little lip for the jump. mine just looks like a mountain side.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
I am down BIG on this - I have no choice but to ride it out...I just hope that if I have to go into the share conversion stage that APO shares will NOT be restricted.

Are they gonna PR the details?


Dang - I knew I should of bought more PAIM instead.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
25 million shares just bought.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
I was thinking the same thing sbrcow!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vicki:
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
JPHC stockholders have an anal fixation woo hoo

Clarification:

"Some JPHC stockholders have an anal fixation".

LOL!!! Maybe some of us dont want to admit it! omg what the hell is going on, must stop this kind of talk. We're all loopy. *goes for a walk with my JPHC shares*
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
quote:
*goes for a walk with my JPHC shares* [/QB]
I just took mine out for a walk and hoped they wouldn't be able to find their way back. They did.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
quote:
Originally posted by vicki:
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
JPHC stockholders have an anal fixation woo hoo

Clarification:

"Some JPHC stockholders have an anal fixation".

LOL!!! Maybe some of us dont want to admit it! omg what the hell is going on, must stop this kind of talk. We're all loopy. *goes for a walk with my JPHC shares*
 -
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
ha is it going back up? gotta have that little lip for the jump. mine just looks like a mountain side.

not all my money is in JPHC just some, so I do have a little jump built on the bottom of my ramp.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
quote:
Originally posted by vicki:
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
JPHC stockholders have an anal fixation woo hoo

Clarification:

"Some JPHC stockholders have an anal fixation".

LOL!!! Maybe some of us dont want to admit it! omg what the hell is going on, must stop this kind of talk. We're all loopy. *goes for a walk with my JPHC shares*
 -
woooo hoooo DK I am not paying you for that!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Uptick! Uptick!!!

Let's go JPHC!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
you guys see the news...seems like a bunch of BS to me, what did you guys read into it?
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
OMG NEWS THAT WE ALREADY HEARD THANX RAY!
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Comments on the Merger Agreement With APO Health, Inc.
via COMTEX

April 27, 2006

LAS VEGAS, NV, Apr 27, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX News Network) --

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER") (OTC: JPHC) today provides its shareholders with comments on the merger agreement entered into with APO Health, Inc. ("APO"), which was fully disclosed in a Current Report filed by APO Health, Inc. Tuesday, April 25, 2006, with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Management of the Company feels that the negotiated price of $0.005/common share the shareholders will receive in the common stock exchange with APO is a substantial improvement in shareholder value.

Ray Hawkins, CEO of JUPITER, said: "Our shareholders are going to be part of a brand new exciting company. This upcoming merger with APO provides both companies with a lot of opportunity moving forward. We are pleased we were able to negotiate a value of $0.005 per common share that we felt was a great benefit to our shareholders."

Ray Hawkins, CEO of JUPITER, in closing commented: "JUPITER acquired Macro Communications, Inc. ("Macro") last year with the belief that, over the long term with Macro as the foundation, we could build a large operation that could grow rapidly and hopefully over time deliver sales and earnings results to provide the shareholders with steady increases in value. Acquiring Macro and completing its audit was the first step. The merger with APO Health, Inc. is a key next step that we believe will lead to enabling the growth that we envisioned. We look forward to the closing of the previously announced merger transaction and are very excited about the future."
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Honestly, to me it sounds like he's confirming ROI's take that the share price of .005 is the part that is set, not Chad's interpretation that the 1/4 share of APO is set.

Sounds like very good news to me. You guys seem to disagree, what am I missing?
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
thanks for the update, we

Ray: "we beleive this merger will add substantial improvement to shareholder value."

Translation: "We believe this whip cream will add substantial improvement to this piece of dog feces"
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
....Management of the Company feels that the negotiated price of $0.005/common share the shareholders will receive in the common stock exchange with APO is a substantial improvement in shareholder value....

When news came out Tuesday, share price was at .0012-.0014.

Look where it is today Mr. Hawkins - .0005

.0005 is a Pile of  - to me.
 
Posted by wallymac on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
i will tell my story if someone buys my 8mil at .0006.
EDIT: jesus they are talking about a RS now on RB and you guys wonder why we talk about getting azz r*p3d

That's just BS. An easy way to get people to sell everything. If they were going to do a RS they would not have had to increase the A/S to 125B. I cold a RS if they were going to run out of shares that could be issued bit that was already handled. I still believe there is a chance for an exemption to be filed for the APOA shares. They have a couple of valid circumstances that would allow for it. IMHO, the only way they could identify the shares at this point in time is restricted because no exemption has been filed. The way it was worded in the PR and 8K hinted at this. This all could just be wishful thinking but then again all the talk of RS and being screwed is specualtion also.

Anyway GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
lol
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
That was exciting but inevitably, "we suck again."
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
Does anyone know how many shares insiders hold?
 
Posted by db on :
 
news seemed to me a repeat of last pr's plus alittle fluff job,
let's hope it's enough to help, would like to close at .0006 atleast
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
And the band plays on!
 
Posted by CTMum on :
 
Forgive the question if it sounds stupid. I am a relative newbie.

My understanding of todays realease is that the shares will be common stock not restricted and we will get .005 (for each share of JPHC), worth of APOA. Then can hold or sell that.
Isn't that a good thing for us. I bought in at .0011 right before the bloodbath and couldn't even look at my ameritrade yesterday. I was thinking of bailing if it got back to .0011 and just take the loss of fees. Now I am thinking to hold and take my shares of APOA. But if I am not reading this properly PLEASE let me know.
 
Posted by steef on :
 
i just called APO shares are not restricted !
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
steef give me the number now. ive been azz r*ped like 10 times already i have nothing to lose.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
OK Steef, who did you call and what number was it. TMAN...
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
All we need now is for APO to put out a PR about how they struck gold in Nevad while drilling for oil with rig#42j, which is powered by a hybrid fuel source devloped in their own laboratories which, if drank cures bird flu, cancer, aids, and drops terrorists dead on contact. THEN we would be in the money.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Duh, of course apo's shares arent restricted. they are trading arent they. Almost an april fools joke but kinda late in teh month dont you think. DK give me an emoticon of an azz whippin. TMAN...
 
Posted by steef on :
 
Phone: 516-594-0005
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
only after we get our shares though, cottonjim
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
All we need now is for APO to put out a PR about how they struck gold in Nevad while drilling for oil with rig#42j, which is powered by a hybrid fuel source devloped in their own laboratories which, if drank cures bird flu, cancer, aids, and drops terrorists dead on contact. THEN we would be in the money.

Or how about they put out a PR saying they bought PAIM?

lol
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I like your scenario jim!

quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
All we need now is for APO to put out a PR about how they struck gold in Nevad while drilling for oil with rig#42j, which is powered by a hybrid fuel source devloped in their own laboratories which, if drank cures bird flu, cancer, aids, and drops terrorists dead on contact. THEN we would be in the money.


 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
can we confirm this is going to be unrestricted????????????
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
Duh, of course apo's shares arent restricted. they are trading arent they. Almost an april fools joke but kinda late in teh month dont you think. DK give me an emoticon of an azz whippin. TMAN...

AZZ  -

LOL
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
By the way, there have not been a lot of trades at .0006 and yet MMs are pulling off the ask.

Something's up.

Good luck to us.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
I called that number steef and they referred me to loyola's number. I know what they are gonna tell me since I have spoken to them. TMAN...
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
I suggest calling the numbers below - if you email, he tends to answer emails after the market closes.

Question:
Are you aware if JPHC will be going after an exemption?

(ii) APO receives an opinion of counsel for APO that an exemption from the registration requirements of the Securities Act is available.

Answer:
I was told they are looking into an exemption.

Best Regards,

Ash Mascarenhas

Loyola Financial Services
2501 North Green Valley Pkwy, Suite 110-D
Henderson, Nevada 89014
702.317.2300 (office)
702.317-2301 (fax)
702.974-0388 (e-fax)
ash*4LFS.com
www.4LFS.com
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Steef is pulling my chain while Ray tittilates me in the rear!

Fantastic!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
ahhh more butt jokes!
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Thanks Dk. TMAN...
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
Duh, of course apo's shares arent restricted. they are trading arent they. Almost an april fools joke but kinda late in teh month dont you think. DK give me an emoticon of an azz whippin. TMAN...

AZZ  -

LOL

ROFLMAO, to funny.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
im not sure unrestricted is what we want, APOA will tank Immediatly and you wont be able to get out until it hits bottom, if its restricted at least APOA will have a chance to become a good campany (i threw up a little in my mouth typing that last bit).

However, if they are unrestricted it may bring the price back up and everyone can get out and maybe profit.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jdg257:
im not sure unrestricted is what we want, APOA will tank Immediatly and you wont be able to get out until it hits bottom, if its restricted at least APOA will have a chance to become a good campany (i threw up a little in my mouth typing that last bit).

However, if they are unrestricted it may bring the price back up and everyone can get out and maybe profit.

It doesn't matter if they unrestricted or not - It will tank either way - now, or 1-2 years from now.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Uh oh dk. You were warned! Get ready for those white jackets to show up. You just had to use that dirty word, didn't you!?!?!?!?! I think these shares will be worth about as much as P... when they get done with us.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I have a funny feeling that we see .0008 at some point today.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
All we need now is for APO to put out a PR about how they struck gold in Nevad while drilling for oil with rig#42j, which is powered by a hybrid fuel source devloped in their own laboratories which, if drank cures bird flu, cancer, aids, and drops terrorists dead on contact. THEN we would be in the money.

Or how about they put out a PR saying they bought PAIM?

lol

I still have my 10 gazillion shares of PAIM, to bad it can't trade at less than .0001 or they might have considered doing that.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Could this be the turnaround we all prayed for last night? This would be better than the comeback the Jets had on MNF a few years ago against the dolphins!

GO JPHC! GO J E T S! GO AWAY AZZ RAPERS!
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Wow Repo, you're showing your age with a reference to that game!
 
Posted by optimizer_78 on :
 
I SEE .0008 by close..
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
jdg, please dont take offense but apo has already tanked. I was thinking that we would have all been better off just exchanging shares. There would have been a sell off but as time grew closer to the exchange the price would have adjusted to a somewhat better amount. BTW thanks Roire for the post. We will see what happens. TMAN...
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
go go go up up up and away! (please)
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Just a reminder, play along with the MM's after they are through loading up on cheap shares they will let this one go up a bit.

Sorry I posted something without mentioning A$$ pounding.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
IM OUT ITS OVER!!!!!! I have lived through the JPHC disaster with a $850 loss. Good luck to all! I have never been more excited to longer be in a stock. Now just dont go up toooo much =)
 
Posted by Darth Vader on :
 
well i bought some yesterday for .0004, and sold em just now for .0006. I like this stock. [Smile]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I'm not selling until .0015! Yes, I'm drunk, high and getting electric shock treatments on my balls right now! Ewww oooww!
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
I'm with you Repoman!!!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Darth Vader:
well i bought some yesterday for .0004, and sold em just now for .0006. I like this stock. [Smile]

lol
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I'm not selling until .0015! Yes, I'm drunk, high and getting electric shock treatments on my balls right now! Ewww oooww!

I'm curious to see that emocon DK.
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
Hey, folks. I don't gamble on this one. I
am watching how the MMs play this game. I have
read many interesting posts. Very sad to say
that most of the investors were just complaining,
but nobody called the CEO and threatened to sue
them. Wake up, investors, you got the rights.
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
come on, let's get to weck today. lol
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Darth Vader:
well i bought some yesterday for .0004, and sold em just now for .0006. I like this stock. [Smile]

ya isnt it? same thing happened to me. "Wow what an easy flip .0004-.0005...Oh whats this shinny bauble.......whats this CEO doing with this skinning knife and oven...." and 1 month later down $850.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Umm, you're there with him getting his balls zapped?

Sounds like you two are closer than we realized.

quote:
Originally posted by amswap:
I'm with you Repoman!!!


 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I'm not selling until .0015! Yes, I'm drunk, high and getting electric shock treatments on my balls right now! Ewww oooww!

I thought I was the only one that did that for fun!!! *pats my car battery....nice battery*
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
It hit a high!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.0007 and climbing
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
such enthusiasm
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
HELLLLL ya!!! Climb!! make me some ^&#!&*^$&^*!%#$ money!
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
looking good for people still in, its bouncing, maybe people can get out with minimal loss.
 
Posted by db on :
 
lol cotton that would get us back to .001
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
loss? I am going to get out with some major green! Must believe!
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
That's exactly what I am hoping for.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
We're tanking damnit!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
OKay, what's your story?

quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
i will tell my story if someone buys my 8mil at .0006.
EDIT: jesus they are talking about a RS now on RB and you guys wonder why we talk about getting azz r*p3d


 
Posted by DQ. on :
 
should go to .005 get em while you can.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I'm not selling until .0015! Yes, I'm drunk, high and getting electric shock treatments on my balls right now! Ewww oooww!

I'm curious to see that emocon DK.
Repo's Balls  -
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Daytraders own this stock now.
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
Looks like the MMs are raising the pps to
make a profit.

Click for the quotws:

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=jphc
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Are people buying at .0006? I'm confused. We are on a downtick, but the bid is .0005
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
OMG DK, I am crying here man, stop it. TMAN...
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Of the last approximately 100 trades, 98 were at .0006. One at .0005 and one at .0007
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
Most sellers are gone, and the MMs are
goinbg to take profits soon.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
APOA moving up too.. what's the dilyo?
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
I think I would like to see this go back to .0004 so I can get in and flip it when it goes back to .0006 or higher. Could be a good time for quick return. This thing will likely be bouncing for several days.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
whats the dilyo? it's going to go up woo hoo *gets ready to un-tie the noose from my neck*
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
0.0006 X 0.0007
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
whats the dilyo? it's going to go up woo hoo *gets ready to un-tie the noose from my neck*

Come towards the light LIRBoy, come to the light. LOL
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by amswap:
I think I would like to see this go back to .0004 so I can get in and flip it when it goes back to .0006 or higher. Could be a good time for quick return. This thing will likely be bouncing for several days.

I think you should try and flip PAIM, IMO.


lol
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
lol flip paim! buy it for .0001 and sell for .00008
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
dk - that's twice. Shame, shame, shame.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Wish I could get rid of that stuff for .00001. Yes, that's 4 0's. I can't get rid of that crap for .0001. Sooner or later it will just disappear and I won't have to be reminded of it anymore. Well, except by dk!!!
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
quote:
Originally posted by amswap:
I think I would like to see this go back to .0004 so I can get in and flip it when it goes back to .0006 or higher. Could be a good time for quick return. This thing will likely be bouncing for several days.

I think you should try and flip PAIM, IMO.


lol

What do you spend more time on the stocks you own and make money on or PAIM
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by J_U_ICE:
What do you spend more time on the stocks you own and make money on or PAIM [/QB]

HUH?!?!?!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by amswap:
quote:
Originally posted by J_U_ICE:
What do you spend more time on the stocks you own and make money on or PAIM

HUH?!?!?! [/QB]
the frog licked the table who was dancing with the piano on a moon rock
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Wish I could get rid of that stuff for .00001. Yes, that's 4 0's. I can't get rid of that crap for .0001. Sooner or later it will just disappear and I won't have to be reminded of it anymore. Well, except by dk!!! and dont forget jellybean and 7of9.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Thanks letitrideboy. I was wondering what they meant. You cleared it up almost as good as RA puts out a good PR on USXP.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
You're right Tman. I guess dk's posts are just so much more memorable with his emoticons! It's all in fun dk.
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
I was talking about the fact that DK spends more time bashing PAIM then talking about other stocks
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Yea, but he does it so well, don't you think?
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
True it's even funnier when it bothers everyone as if they don't realize that's his purpose for doing it. Even though I own a sh*tload of PAIM it's laughable
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
.0005 on mirror trades.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
lol
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Back to .0006 on real buys.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
If this dividend rumor is true, I pray it's cash... then the shorts (if there truly is a short position) will be double whammied.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Where did everyone go? We're about to uptick
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
Lunch
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I'm still here. I'm still standing by my statement that we're going to hit .0008 today.

Today has probably been 95% buys. I thikn we can all see what's going on.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
What divi rumor repo? TMAN...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
This one.

if you go back and look at past PR's...the comment was that Livestar would be spun off...and divs paid for that spinoff...so pretty much expect it to be restricted shares of Livestar.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
ah, that divi. I forgot about that pos. lol. Just get me back to .001 and I will be a happy camper. TMAN...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Ok, here's my latest theory on what's going on with the PPS.

I believe that the MM's are not short. However, I do think there are individuals, groups, companies that ARE short, and they are now beginning to cover. I also think that retail selling has stopped for the most part except for a few brave daytraders here and there. So, if retail selling has stopped, how are the shorts covering? Easy - they are buying the MM's inventory, and the MM's are WILLING to get rid of it. How do I know? Everytime we get a rally or uptick, MM's flock to the ask hoping to sell to buyers.

What does this mean to us? Well, forget about the merger and that crap. Our best bet for saving our skin and maybe even making profits is to hope there is a HUGE short position, and that the MM's inventory dries up... one it dries up, they MUST move the PPS higher until retailers begin selling to them. If they move the PPS higher, shorts will be even more pizzed and fighting to buy even more. All could lead to a short squeeze. 13 days to go.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
I don't know about you, but if this happens, I'm buying $100.00 worth of PAIM.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/27/gas.rebate/index.html


lol
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Repo, I think the problem with your theory is that individuals and groups CAN'T short the stock. I'm pretty sure it's an SEC rule (but have been trying to confirm this fact) taht you can't short a stock under $5 (I thikn it's $5, anyway you get the point.)

I do believe that the MMs WERE significantly short leading up to the PR, and were probably able to scare most holders into selling their shares. If there was truly that "150 group" that held more than the float, I'd be surprised if even those didn't give up a good chunk of their shares. I think there will be a short squeeze leading up to the 10th, but it will be significantly smaller than it would have been if thre wasn't this huge panic sell-off.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
just got back from lunch omg stuffed with a burger no bun and A1 sauce, and a big ol piece of chocolate cake, wake me up when something happens.....*locks office door and snuggles up to my JPHC shares*
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
PCola - you are correct for U.S trading rules.

You can short stocks through international brokerages. Think about it. I'm a foreign broker. If I place continuous sells throughout the day, of course they will be filled. And if I never reconcile my trades through the DTC, who is going to investigate or pull my licenses???
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
I don't know about you, but if this happens, I'm buying $100.00 worth of PAIM.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/27/gas.rebate/index.html


lol

GREAT, I WILL BE ABLE TO BUY ANOTHER 1 1/2 TANKS OF GAS.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
And how is UBSS filling billions of shares from his inventory? Why isn't he matching buy orders with retail sell orders???? Anybody selling at .0006? No.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
What the f8ck? Does UBSS have 1 big customer unloading 10 billion shares to all the buyers? Does UBSS represent management maybe???

Either the UBSS MM or one of his clients is filling these buy orders!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
I don't know about you, but if this happens, I'm buying $100.00 worth of PAIM.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/27/gas.rebate/index.html


lol

GREAT, I WILL BE ABLE TO BUY ANOTHER 1 1/2 TANKS OF GAS.
you know whats funny? I have a lot of clients from the UK and they are paying between 8 and 10 dollars a gallon, and they have been paying those high prices for as long as I can remember. even several years ago it was 5 or 6 bucks a gallon. And it's all in taxes, which really sucks. That's why when I got 20 gallons for 66 bucks the other day I didn't worry about it, I thought about how much that would have cost me over there. We still have it good!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
I hope they plan on giving us $100.00/month gas rebate checks.
Sort of like getting welfare - free money for sittin on your azz (in your vehicle, that is).
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Interesting, hadn't considered that possibility.

Oh well, I still thnk this is gonna run up over the next 2 weeks. I'm holding strong and wish i would have had more money to buy yesterday.

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
PCola - you are correct for U.S trading rules.

You can short stocks through international brokerages. Think about it. I'm a foreign broker. If I place continuous sells throughout the day, of course they will be filled. And if I never reconcile my trades through the DTC, who is going to investigate or pull my licenses???


 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
I'm taking my 100 bucks and buying stocks! lol
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
just checking in on you guys... I'm staying away from the comp... don't wanna talk myself into making any decisions until tomorrow or monday!!! I'm 90% sure that i'll be holding for a while longer past the weekend!

But thought it was funny when i checked out APO --- i forgot the 'A' on the ticker and check it out... wish that was the true APOA [Big Grin] .

Have a good day!!!

What ever happened to stockforfun? did costums finally take care of him?
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 

 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
just checking in on you guys... I'm staying away from the comp... don't wanna talk myself into making any decisions until tomorrow or monday!!! I'm 90% sure that i'll be holding for a while longer past the weekend!

But thought it was funny when i checked out APO --- i forgot the 'A' on the ticker and check it out... wish that was the true APOA [Big Grin] .

Have a good day!!!


What ever happened to stockforfun? did costums finally take care of him?


LOL maybe he is in some stock bashing detention camp?
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
I don't know about you, but if this happens, I'm buying $100.00 worth of PAIM.

You could probably get 10,000,000 shares for $100! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
I really wish i had picked up some of cybr a month ago.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
I don't know about you, but if this happens, I'm buying $100.00 worth of PAIM.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/27/gas.rebate/index.html


lol

If we are so dang addicted to oil like the Pres. says, why in the heck would he & his administration give us $100 to buy more?
Also, don't you think he has printed enough money already, if you know what I mean?
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
he is probably at paim trying to talk it up with 7 and jelly. lol. TMAN...
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Welcome back buddy. You're missing the fun part. No one here is stressed, everyone's just goofing around and having fun.

I think yesterday when it hit .0004 everyone still holding mentally wrote it off as a loss, so everything from here is gravy, and we're having fun with it.

quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
just checking in on you guys... I'm staying away from the comp... don't wanna talk myself into making any decisions until tomorrow or monday!!! I'm 90% sure that i'll be holding for a while longer past the weekend!

But thought it was funny when i checked out APO --- i forgot the 'A' on the ticker and check it out... wish that was the true APOA [Big Grin] .

Have a good day!!!

What ever happened to stockforfun? did costums finally take care of him?


 
Posted by mustang21112 on :
 
do you realize how much money we could have made on a short squeeze if there wasn't so much panic selling going on yesterday?!?!? Pisses me off
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Yeah, that's very saddening. Since i knew I was planning to hold for a while that was the worst part about yesterday and tuesday's close, knowing the shorts were covering and laughing.

quote:
Originally posted by mustang21112:
do you realize how much money we could have made on a short squeeze if there wasn't so much panic selling going on yesterday?!?!? Pisses me off


 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mustang21112:
I really wish i had picked up some of cybr a month ago.

I really wish I had bought $2000 worth of lottery tickets, shoulda, coulda, woulda. THeres always tommorow.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Another few million just bought after no trades for like 20 minutes.

I wonder how many shares UBSS has for sale at .0006.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cottonjim:
quote:
Originally posted by mustang21112:
I really wish i had picked up some of cybr a month ago.

I really wish I had bought $2000 worth of lottery tickets, shoulda, coulda, woulda. THeres always tommorow.
I'll be saying this a month from now about PAIM - then again probably NOT!!

LOL
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I think he has like 1 billion. Tell me what is the share volume at .0006 since like noon.
 
Posted by iamfine on :
 
MACD looks like buying time. But, maybe it is only a commmon reverse since yesterday panic sell. Glad to see the backup. If 0006 holds strong, then we might see a big runup later time. Good luck.
 
Posted by deleet on :
 
gdammit, we're back at 5 again.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
APOA is currently at .008, which means:

if you have 10M shares of JPHC, divided by 4 (conversion rate), you get 2.5M APOA shares.

2,500,000 x .008 = $20,000.00 in APOA if the conversion happened now.

$ 20,000.00 APOA value minus $ 5,000.00 JPHC value = $15,000.00 profit.


Is this correct?
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
I am really tempted to do What JARW did and just walk away for a few days and not even log onto my account, lest I make a foolish mistake. THen I think I might miss the split second that it up ticks enough for me to sell at small profit.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
1 trade in 2 hours at .0005. I sell in 2 hours.

What does that tell you??
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I think that's incorrect for a couple of reasons that each go opposite directions.

First, the good: It seems like the PR from JPHC today says that the conversion .005/(APO Price) (currently .005/.008) which would say you'll get 6.25 million shares of APOA

2nd, the bad: Your assumption is that you could SELL your APOA shares at .008. The second the shares convert, former JPHC shareholders will be selling, and you can expect a pretty significant share price decrease pretty much instantaneously.

Not sure which would have more impact.

Also, your assumption takes away $5000 for JPHC shares, is that saying you bought them at .0005, if so, then that part is correct, otherwise, you're "profit" is obvioulsy less what you paid for it, not what it's currently worth.

quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
APOA is currently at .008, which means:

if you have 10M shares of JPHC, divided by 4 (conversion rate), you get 2.5M APOA shares.

2,500,000 x .008 = $20,000.00 in APOA if the conversion happened now.

$ 20,000.00 APOA value minus $ 5,000.00 JPHC value = $15,000.00 profit.


Is this correct?


 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
UBSS, move your azz!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
That there's at least 1 dumbass out there?

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
1 trade in 2 hours at .0005. I sell in 2 hours.

What does that tell you??


 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
That there's at least 1 dumbass out there?

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
1 trade in 2 hours at .0005. I sell in 2 hours.

What does that tell you??


Or that you sell in 2 hours?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
1 dumbass out there..ain't me .. yet.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Look at these buys! WHat is the deal???

Does anyone know anyone who works for an MM? We've all seen the posts about Basher Handbooks and stuff, we need a MM handbook.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I just manually added up what I see on my T&S since like 12:10.

I count about 80 million buys and 6 million sells

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I think he has like 1 billion. Tell me what is the share volume at .0006 since like noon.


 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Look at these buys! WHat is the deal???

Does anyone know anyone who works for an MM? We've all seen the posts about Basher Handbooks and stuff, we need a MM handbook.

It's funny you mention Basher Handbooks....Mine comes out May 1st - titled "PAIM Bashing made easy" by yours' truly, dkinvest.

Call your local bookstore and reserve now.
Autographed copies available for all my friends here at allstocks, except for 7 & jellybean.

LOL
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
80 million! UBSS must be sititng on 1/4 of a billion shares.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
He's letting the shorts cover!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I'm also a PAIM investor. May I hit you with my copy of the book or does that cost extra? [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Look at these buys! WHat is the deal???

Does anyone know anyone who works for an MM? We've all seen the posts about Basher Handbooks and stuff, we need a MM handbook.

It's funny you mention Basher Handbooks....Mine comes out May 1st - titled "PAIM Bashing made easy" by yours' truly, dkinvest.

Call your local bookstore and reserve now.
Autographed copies available for all my friends here at allstocks, except for 7 & jellybean.

LOL


 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Can I have my money back? I don't want to play this game anymore.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Do the pay sites for L2s show better info? Like could we really find out how many shares UBSS is selling? Or will it say "5000" on all of the L2 sites?
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
33million buy just went through. UBSS must be reading this board and laughing at us.
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
ask .0007
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
UBSS is done! C sucker.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
so does anyone seem to have some real insight to things yet?
Is the conversion really .005? like the latest PR says? Are our shares really valued at that price? (thatd be awesome if true).

I just wold like to have a real clue as to what our shares are worth...(plz dont say crap).
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Etrd on bid/ask..watch for mirror trades.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
Also, poll question.
Is everyone just waiting for this to go to .001 again, or higher?
Is anyone staying till conversion date?
just wondering..
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chad:
.....I just wold like to have a real clue as to what our shares are worth...(plz dont say crap).

Sh*tburgers.  -

LOL - Just kidding.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
So the .0006's finally get used up and then 2 trades at 5 and two MMs come back to .0006.

This isn't fun anymore [Wink]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I'm waiting for .001 or higher.. if shares are restricted, probably will not hold.
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Haven't decided yet. Depends on how much I have to drink. I notice nobodys passing around the vodka today, to hung over perhaps.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
NOBODY is trading this stock now except MM's and maybe shorties... retail is done, either sold or waiting.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I am holding well above .001

quote:
Originally posted by Chad:
Also, poll question.
Is everyone just waiting for this to go to .001 again, or higher?
Is anyone staying till conversion date?
just wondering..


 
Posted by iamfine on :
 
Guess this one really hurt a lot of feeling right now. Market confidence probably has been down since yesterday especially. Really need some decent news or comment like this morning to feed it up. If today is settled at 0006, then tomorrow will be a very interesting day. We might see a little bit higher. If not, then things will be rough
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
I am holding this till it goes over .001.
Which it should I think with all the buys.
or longer, depending on if I can get the below figured out.
I just would like to have clear answers to these questions:

1)is our stock valued at .005 at conversion?
or
2)is 1 share worth 1/4 of APOA 20day avg?
and
3)is it restricted or not? (if are shareholders as of conversion date, are we stuck in it for 1 or 2 yrs).
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
I'm holding till .0015 - After all of this Bull  - this week, I'm gonna make some friggin money off of this.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
I have not decided on when to sell or if I will hold all the way through, going to wait and find out more from JPHC first, I hope.

*Breaks out the Jack Daniels on the rocks* mmm *passes to the next guy*
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
<-------------------THIRSTY
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
Sure would of been nice to have this the last couple of days:
 -
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
I'll have a doulbe with a quervo chaser
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
omg sounds so good, I am so going to the store before this weekend. I haven't had a drink since New years, been to busy.
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
Sure would of been nice to have this the last couple of days:
 -

OUCH!! [Eek!]
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by J_U_ICE:
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
Sure would of been nice to have this the last couple of days:
 -

OUCH!! [Eek!]
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Nice, mass selling into the close and we may touch .0004...
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
The good news is that APOA stayed at .08 today. Each day that stays up better our chances of truly getting .005 for ours. Still can't decide whether or not to bail. A mute point if we don't get up to .01 before the big day.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
He's letting the shorts cover!

Repoman, I dont' think that's what is happening - both today and yesterday. Wish I could say (suggest) more, but it is better to wait. There's two scenarios and I'm still not sure which is most accurate.

I still think this will pop, though - either scenario.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
Tick, I would like to hold til over .001, you feel it'll get there next week?

thinking of selling Monday and picking up NDOL, PBLS, or RSHN instead, as they are supposed to have good news coming.

ps, I know u cant make decision for me, but value ur opinion.
 
Posted by db on :
 
all those buys at .0006 and those bass turds had to let it close at .0005
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Hey JimSC,

I read your post a few pages back. Here's a true story without the specifics (and most certainly does not apply to jphc)...

Trader (T) entered a large buy on a pink based on dd and short-term speculation. Unbeknownst to T, info was groundwork being laid for a trap, soon followed by paid pumpers and hard evidence of market manipulation/collusion. T saw the way of things to come, and sold position.

That night, T called attorney (Att) and explained the whole situation. Att said proof sounded substantial and may be worth a look.

Att asked, "How much did you lose?"

T said, "Well... ummm... you see... I didn't lose anything. I made quite a bit... more than enough to pay your *%$*ing fees."

After a few moments of silence, T hears muffled noises?, bangs?, yelling?, sounds like someone attacking Att. T gets no response from Att and picks up cell phone to call 911. Troopers got to Att's house in record time because there had been a rash of burglaries in the area. From Att's house, trooper tells T to hang up the phone. Obediently, T hangs up... both phones.

Trooper visits T... lot of questions, trooper hands T citation and not so forthcoming on the answers, but insisted Att was fine.

T called Att and got a new lesson... the noises coming from Att were the direct result of ROFL His AO and the citation was to be determined... either filing a false report or prank call.

T said, "Well, fix it!" T also said other things that cannot be repeated and should never have been said.

Att said, "I'll call in the morning."

T, normally patience overflowing, doesn't want to wait until morning to set this right.

T says, "I'll sue you."

Att says, "I'll sue you back. You still coming over for the BBQ this weekend?"

T says, "Of course."

Att says, "Good deal, I'll show you a better way to attack the scum then." He did.

End of story.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chad:
Tick, I would like to hold til over .001, you feel it'll get there next week?

thinking of selling Monday and picking up NDOL, PBLS, or RSHN instead, as they are supposed to have good news coming.

ps, I know u cant make decision for me, but value ur opinion.

Hey Chad,

That's where all of us gotta sink or swim. I'm no financial advisor, and I take huge risks. Some say exit plans should be decided before you buy, and there's a little safety in that.

So if it were my money, I would pick a pps that I'm comfortable with and set a GTC AON order to go in tomorrow. I would decide now, while I have quiet time to make a decision on that comfortable pps. While I watch the intraday (next week), I might adjust that pps a little up or down, but not much because those adjustments are going to be based on fear/greed. Also, I would pick a pps that does not already have an MM standing on it. Your order time is important.

And then I would wait, enjoying the lube job with my coffee. Well, that's what I would do if it was my money.

Chad, don't trust anyone but yourself and you will be fine.
 
Posted by iamfine on :
 
mine is actually even at 0006. i am thinking of putting a sell order tomorrow at that price. if it gets through, I will be glad. Certainly, if the market price is higher, I will be much gladder. But, if market is down more, then I might hold it longer.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I'm holding until Friday of next week.. if they have to halt trading to do a symbol change before the 10th, trading will be halted on Monday the 8th (3 days to settle trades). Therefore, next Friday is D-Day. Do or die.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
I don't want to die...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Hang on little buddy! The biggest azz raping may be coming.. or, we may escape with a nice handjob.

Between you and me, I think we're doomed.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Repo, YOU GOTTA BELIEVE IN THE DCB. Next week when the dust settles a little a whole new group of bagholders will appear and you and letitride me and the rest will be happy. Hopefully. TMAN...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
What's the DCB? Dog Catcher Brethren? And who in their right mind is going to buy this next week? Everybody and their mother in pennyland knows about this stock now.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
DEAD CAT BOUNCE... It wont go to penny land but it might ease up to around .001. I dont think the mm's want this pos any more than we do. They will let it run alittle and we will get out. Thats the way I see it. I hope I am right. TMAN...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Ohhh.. the old dead cat bounce .. right! .001 would be beautiful. It's all about next week.
 
Posted by 2fstws6 on :
 
I sold and got into PBLS this morning.Good Luck all.I am all in NDOL,RSHN and now PBLS.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Good luck 2f with PBLS. I made a few and lost a few in that one. I have been eying it but I just cant pull the trigger...TMAN...
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Hang on little buddy! The biggest azz raping may be coming.. or, we may escape with a nice handjob.

Between you and me, I think we're doomed.

eye eye skipper!!! where is mary ann?
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
she is in my boat letitride. I scooped her up while yall were watching the jphc ticker tape parade. lol TMAN...
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
DOH!!! Foiled again *snuggles my jphc shares*
 
Posted by 2fstws6 on :
 
Thanks TMAN. I just could not deal with the headache of watching this stock anymore.I lost only a few hundred,but now making it back slowly.Maybe it was a mistake to sell ,but now I know what I have at least .
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
DEAD CAT BOUNCE...

You could be correct. By the way, some people are getting out at the ASK. For those of you who haven't caught on yet. [Smile]
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
just hit .0012!! if you didn't get in I think its to late woo hoo money train here we come....omg woah.....sorry..... just a flashback...false alarm..... *stumbles back to the vodka*
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
will hit .0020 in AM and down .0002 in PM

JPHC SCAMED YOU ALL.
Smart as*
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
they scamed us!!! wait....what is scame...
 
Posted by DQ. on :
 
Been in and out of JPHC for about a year now. Haven't seen a scam yet.
 
Posted by Soylent Green on :
 
I'm out this afternoon....on to DDSI.

Will the last one to leave JPHC...please turn out the lights?
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
just hit .0012!! if you didn't get in I think its to late woo hoo money train here we come....omg woah.....sorry..... just a flashback...false alarm..... *stumbles back to the vodka*

Yeah, the money train took a sharp turn off the tracks!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
yeah instead of heading to 90210 we headed to Iraq lol. I am just joking around, I am still in it! I still think it will pop up a bit, otherwise I would be out for a loss already.
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
I sold yesterday (again) LOL. I took a small loss but couldn't figure out what direction the train was gonna take! Good luck. I'm lookin at DDSI at the moment.
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
JPHC was a brutal financially but very rewarding from an educational stand point. Im happy it was my first penny.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
you sadist scrcow. lol. TMAN...
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
JPHC was a brutal financially but very rewarding from an educational stand point. Im happy it was my first penny.

I agree, it was an educational experience!
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
I said on another thread that its about time security stocks to start their yearly climb. DDSI has a lot of shares out but has revenue. Oh well we will see...TMAN...
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
I said on another thread that its about time security stocks to start their yearly climb. DDSI has a lot of shares out but has revenue. Oh well we will see...TMAN...

Are you in DDSI?
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
that one and one other. TMAN...
 
Posted by wildweb on :
 
well I might be he one turning off the lights, because I am still holding, and if we drop to .0003 I will be buying more...Anything to get my buy average down.

I do honestly have a feeling about this stock, and its time for me to win or lose it all. Who cares I already lost 1/2 whats another 1/2 when I can actually post a gain.

I am holding this stock long, whats the worse that can happen? I shot myself in the head? Hope it goes up, or the bullet comes fast and easy...I felt enough pain the past few days..lol
 
Posted by wildweb on :
 
P.S. Can I have that bottle of Vodka? Ahhh forget it I am just going to start passing the 151...That should make the caring go away.
 
Posted by Soylent Green on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wildweb:
P.S. Can I have that bottle of Vodka? Ahhh forget it I am just going to start passing the 151...That should make the caring go away.

Give up the 151...go for the Everclear!
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
well, JPHC hit .007 today, so maybe Friday we hit .008? Lets all do collective prayer for JPHC to go over .001 again. [Smile]
let a man dream....
 
Posted by Soylent Green on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chad:
well, JPHC hit .007 today, so maybe Friday we hit .008? Lets all do collective prayer for JPHC to go over .001 again. [Smile]
let a man dream....

Even though I bailed...I really do hope that it it hits .005 for the resilient. Good luck...
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Soylent Green:
quote:
Originally posted by wildweb:
P.S. Can I have that bottle of Vodka? Ahhh forget it I am just going to start passing the 151...That should make the caring go away.

Give up the 151...go for the Everclear!
Here's the vodka...pass it on. Hopefully you won't need it today. Good luck.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
lets hope for a good day, and vicki I got in DDSI at .0002
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
Cool. I going to try and get in this morning - with my limited funds - thanks JPHC!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
i sowwy
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
i sowwy

Thanks for the sympathy - I won't whine anymore.....today!
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
JPHC: I called JPHC's 800 number, they said
the shares will be retricted for 1-2 yesrs.
So make sure you cah hold that long before
getting in. Dump it if you are not sure.
JPHC will be a toy of the MMs for
the next few days, watch how they play
the game.
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
JPHC: Call 1-800-963-6532 to clarify the
conditions of restrictions of JPHC shares.
Under current SEC rules, the shares may not
be traded for two years.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I actually had a dream last night that JPHC shot up to .003 right before the merger... premonition, or desperation?
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
Buy-If issued by American Bulls
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Didn't we already get shares of vxbx that we can't go anything with for a certain time also?
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
i like cake
 
Posted by Chris4205 on :
 
I got out yesterday due to the restricted status. I hope for those staying long and strong this pays off for you.
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
Amrican Bulls did not consider the
restricted conditions. Call JPHC yourself:
1-800-963-6532
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Thinking this over and rereading some of the posts on RB, this isn't a bad deal overall if you hold... I think I've got it.

If you have 10 million shares of JPHC at .001 ($10K value) then the conversion would be like this:

10mil x .005 = 50,000 shares
Take 50,000 and divide it by whatever price APOA is at the merger, May 10:

50000/.001= 50 million shares
50000/.007 = 7.14 million shares
50000/.01 = 5 million shares
50000/.02 = 2.5 million shares

The lower APOA is BEFORE the merger, the better obviously because you can lock in your APOA shares at a lower price. Lower the price, higher it can rise over 2 years. In terms of valuation though, doesn't matter if APOA is $.01 or $100. Your conversion rate is the same at .005.

However, after the merger, if APOA stays even for 2 years say, you will earn ".005 value".

Example again:
Pre merger:
10 mil shares of JPHC at .001 = $10K value

At merger (based on 20 day average):
APOA is at .01 - you now have 5 million shares of APOA = $50K value

After 2 years of restriction:
If APOA is still at .01, you can sell for $50K. If it's higher, let's say .02, you can sell for $100K.

Now, if it goes down to .005, then you will only make $25K. If it goes down to .002, that's your breakeven point. Your value of APOA is then at your original JPHC investment value = $10K.

Anything lower than .002 or bankruptcy would mean a bigger loss or a total loss.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I actually had a dream last night that JPHC shot up to .003 right before the merger... premonition, or desperation?

I think it's more desperation than premonition, but let's hope you have some psychic ability on this one. Remember you got out once and right back in. You might just have something. [Eek!]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
And I should have said that JPHC valuation is not what you bought it at, but where it is trading on the day of the merger. Obviously if you bought in low, you're golden. We need a short squeeze to .0015 and then APOA to tank. If this happens, I may hold the shares now...
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
JPHC: 3 sharks are after you: MMs, JPHC ceo;
and APAO ceo. Sooner or later, you will be
eaten alive. Get out while you can. Call me
a basher -- if you like. I will get you later.
I am hunting for Iternity of USXP now.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
I knew my ideas of wanting APOA to tank were right. muwahahahaa
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
I think if I see .0003 today, I will jump in for a mil more shares, but that's it. If it goes in the other direction, I'm out on anything above .001. We'll see how it plays out. I hope you're right repo.
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
Everyone want to get out of JPHC and jump to DDSI(Hot Hot Hot right now )
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
APOA has already traded nearly 20% of their 20 day average and the b/a is up. According to your hopes of this one falling, it ain't looking good. Can APOA staying at .008 or higher until the deal be a good thing for those of us who stay in it?
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
stock, some of us are already in DDSI. Because we talk in this thread doesn't mean this is the only stock we have.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
yup in DDSI at .0002
 
Posted by bmwboyee on :
 
repo, you are considering all the great things if you hold. what if they dilute the stock after the merger? They DO have 25 billion to do that. Look at the track history of this company. Do you really think they are going to change? they diluted JPHC to 10 billion, now they have a chance to dilute APOA to 25 billion. consider both the good, the bad, and the ugly.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
Everyone want to get out of JPHC and jump to DDSI(Hot Hot Hot right now )

I'm in DDSI too - DDSI will probably make me back the money I will have lost in this POS.
 
Posted by db on :
 
jesus,allah,buddah - please help JPHC rise to .0015 before 5/10 thank you in advance.
 
Posted by onecentlotto on :
 
You guys talked me in to selling my free shares. Two years is a long time.
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
I see no future of JPHC.
DDSI is now my future !
Got in at .0002 and now .0004 or may be .0005, still want to hold.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Nice to see that after 95% buys yesterday the sells at the close set the tone for today....

Ugh

What do they say though, never pay attention to the first 15 minutes of trading?

I hope that's true cause the first 10 minutes haven't been so good.
 
Posted by iamfine on :
 
I put a sell today. Hope it gets through. cannot wait until 2 years later to touch my money.
 
Posted by iamfine on :
 
seems very interesting. not sure whether it is my ameritrade account screwed. no trading since the openning
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
Everyone want to get out of JPHC and jump to DDSI(Hot Hot Hot right now )

I'm in DDSI too - DDSI will probably make me back the money I will have lost in this POS.
I got in DDSI this morning. I'm hoping for the same outcome!
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
I bailed, Couldn't take it. Interestingly my sell oreder executed immediatly, didn't even take 30 seconds for someone to scarf up my shares. Now I need to find something to put my money in and try to recover my losses.
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
cotton, what price did you get out at? 5?
 
Posted by sbrcow on :
 
if vicki is in it im not touching it, she might be the one who cursed JPHC. burn the witch! burn the witch! switching to Ameritrade cant trade for another 2-3 days excluding the weekend
jk =)
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by yolkarmy:
cotton, what price did you get out at? 5?

Yes, 5
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
i'm still waiting for 8s.. i think its too early to get out..
 
Posted by ChicagoPete on :
 
This stock is not going to move above 0.0005 (maybe an ask of 0.0006 and a few sales) but there is no way (IMO) this thing is going anywhere. Get in if you want the restricted stock, but make sure you do your DD on APOA. Right now, that company is headed straight for the crapper and people that have high hopes of getting out after 2 years (and it will be two years) with a profit need to take a hard look and see if the risk is worth it. Just look at their balance sheet. HUGE amounts of debt. Scary, IMO. Be careful. GLTA
 
Posted by NomarKash on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sportsguy:
Didn't we already get shares of vxbx that we can't go anything with for a certain time also?

yeah i have some of those vxbx shares that we can't touch and surprisingly the price has actually held.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
UBSS is going to sit on the bid all day... interesting.
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sbrcow:
if vicki is in it im not touching it, she might be the one who cursed JPHC. burn the witch! burn the witch! switching to Ameritrade cant trade for another 2-3 days excluding the weekend
jk =)

Careful now, I just may put a curse on you! JK [Smile]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
.0004 We're going down!!!!!!! WOMEN AND CHILDREN LAST!
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I jumped ship. I don't have the time to wait. I wish all well and lots of $$$.

Always protect your capital and take a little profit out to keep you in the game.

Good luck to all and their trading styles.

DDSI and IGAI here I come!!!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
I'm in... i've decided to hold until next Friday! I don't see this going any lower! One more week with 11.2 mil in the sack!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Might as well hold ... miracles baby, miracles.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I just sold my house and decided to put another $200K into this. It can't get much lower, right?


(Joking, just holding at this point)
 
Posted by steef on :
 
today close .001
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Steef, I will give you 5 stars if that is correct.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
steef I will give you....well lets just say I will make your day if that happens lol
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
I just read through the SEC filing for this merger under APOA - The only miracle I can see happening is if they get an exemption for shares NOT to be restricted. If they get this exemption, and PR it - This stock should explode, IMFO. Until then, I remain a depressed MoFo.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
In my f***ing opinion?

quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
IMFO.


 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
DK - you're forgetting this portion - this is our miracle.

The Merger Agreement contains certain conditions precedent to consummation of the merger, including but not limited to, obtaining consents, providing certified lists of shareholders and delivery of certain due diligence and other corporate documents.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
In my f***ing opinion?

quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
IMFO.


Yup.
 
Posted by iamfine on :
 
put an order at 0005. traded very quick. lost 200 bucks on it. just too much scary info relation to it lately. cannot take the risk though. i am out.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Thanks IAMFINE, just helping the MM's cover their shorts.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
DK - you're forgetting this portion - this is our miracle.

The Merger Agreement contains certain conditions precedent to consummation of the merger, including but not limited to, obtaining consents, providing certified lists of shareholders and delivery of certain due diligence and other corporate documents.

[Confused] Call me ignorant, but I don't know what and/or why the above is our miracle. Is that saying if certain conditions are not met, this merger will not become reality?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
That says that prior to the merger taking place, all outstanding shares must be accounted for from the brokerages.... therefore, brokerages will need to reconcile their long (and short) positions with DTC, and DTC will report to the transfer agent of JPHC that all shares are accounted for and who owns them (not you and me, but the brokerages since shares are held in street name). If there is a discrepency, they will need to reconcile IMMEDIATELY. How do they do that??? Well, for example, let's say Etrade has 10 mil. shares long according to DTC, but has a short position of 50 mil. shares. Well, while individual investors are allowed to naked short, they can only do this if the brokerages have the shares in house. I used to work for Ameritrade so I know how this works. Back in the dot.com days, investors would call us screaming that they couldn't short a $50 IPO stock (apparently assuming correctly that a lot of those stocks were just up huge on hype). Even though the stock was MARGINABLE, it was not shortable. Why? Because at the time, the brokerage did not have enough shares to short (probably because other shorters already shorted the amount of long positions before this guy).

So, back to my example. If Etrade realizes it has a discrepency of 40 million shares, they will IMMEDIATELY begin buying back shares in customers accounts (kind of like a reverse margin call). They may give the customers 3 days, but if the customer does not cover, Etrade will. And in case you're wondering which customers they choose, technically it's on a random basis.

They will cover those short positions until they have an equilibrium of short positions and long positions.

So, if there truly is a huge short position here, that is how the short squeeze will work. Investors/MM's/Brokerages covering their short positions to get to that equilibrium. JPHC will not authorize the merger until that equilibrium is achieved.

In an ideal world, if every JPHC stockholder pulled their shares from the brokerages (and thereby removed the shares from street name and instead had the share put into your name), there could be no short positions whatsoever. That's what CMKX shareholders were/are? trying to do.

So, pray for a huge short position, and we are golden.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
i'll be quoting my buddy here (stuckforfun) "I will give ten star" if that happens!!!

What a week... just played a squash game and my knee blew out --- had surgery just last year and now it's out again.... then JPHC being down 30% instead of up 300% this week--- and than worst of all ... it's friday... i can't move... and now i wont even be able to play stocks b/c of the weekend... what's going to happen next? Great... the wheel on my office chair just broke off... guess i'll be crawling all over my apartment this weekend! [Big Grin] what a week... what a week! Next week is going to be awesome... awesome i tell you!
 
Posted by iamfine on :
 
very interesting interpretation. Well, this JPHC definitely gave me a good lesson, even though I got burnt.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
Jarw....watch out for falling meteors
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
i'll be quoting my buddy here (stuckforfun) "I will give ten star" if that happens!!!

What a week... just played a squash game and my knee blew out --- had surgery just last year and now it's out again.... then JPHC being down 30% instead of up 300% this week--- and than worst of all ... it's friday... i can't move... and now i wont even be able to play stocks b/c of the weekend... what's going to happen next? Great... the wheel on my office chair just broke off... guess i'll be crawling all over my apartment this weekend! [Big Grin] what a week... what a week! Next week is going to be awesome... awesome i tell you!

Passing you the vodka...sounds like you could use it.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
darnit vicki, passing around my stash again
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
No interpretation, that is a FACT if, and only if, there is a sizeable short position.

That's what some investors do... look around for stocks, doesn't matter if they are shells, POS's, whatever, that have huge short positions but are planning to merge. They make boatloads off these deals because of the short squeeze.
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
Stock up this weekend would ya? Next week has GOT to be better. Hope to be passing it for a celebration (okay not with this stock - sorry for those still in don't mean to add insult to injury)....
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I think I'm going to buy 20K more of this.. if it runs to .0012, double up. No WAY this goes below .0004 before the merger.

Time to put up, or shut up.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
I will definetly stock up, Like I said I have been to busy to enjoy a drink since new years. I may have to relax this weekend! My Lord I have a headache
 
Posted by dbrownRC on :
 
did anyone else see those 2 buys for 2.5m at .0006 and .0007...seems odd with all the sells at .0005...any reasons you guys can think of?
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
I will definetly stock up, Like I said I have been to busy to enjoy a drink since new years. I may have to relax this weekend! My Lord I have a headache

Haven't had a drink since New Year's either and I'm way overdue!
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
DDSI : Strong buy since 10:am .0005
Hurry up ! If you don't, ask will be .0006

DDSI Target (in short term ) : .0065
Forget about JPHC, Let make money on DDSI. I knew you guys lost a lot money on JPHC, now it is time to make money on DDSI.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vicki:
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
I will definetly stock up, Like I said I have been to busy to enjoy a drink since new years. I may have to relax this weekend! My Lord I have a headache

Haven't had a drink since New Year's either and I'm way overdue!
Ditto, I may actually go somewhere and get a cab home lol
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
quote:
Originally posted by vicki:
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
I will definetly stock up, Like I said I have been to busy to enjoy a drink since new years. I may have to relax this weekend! My Lord I have a headache

Haven't had a drink since New Year's either and I'm way overdue!
Ditto, I may actually go somewhere and get a cab home lol
Have fun and be safe!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
Repo,

thanks for your explanation - you're a smart guy.

I am  - that what you said happens...and I think that my miracle scenario could take place, as well. What do you think?

Lets  - for either 2.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
12 days and counting!
 
Posted by th0th on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
12 days and counting!

Sat and Sun don't count. Also, does covering have to also wait the 3 day settlement period? If so, then we are looking at 5 days and counting.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
5 days, yes! I would say next Friday is D-Day. If nothing happens next Friday, or Th, dump it all.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
we could have a sell party!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Yep... last man standing is out.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
If this thing goes up to some rediculous figure... we should all meet in the bahamas for a break [Big Grin] ... all but you sucksforfun! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
Your dream, sucker
 
Posted by sandor butosi on :
 
Hey guys RSHN just had good news released and is running up!!!!!!!!!! Check out the thread.
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
going down .0004, suck yourself
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
Jarw, suckforfun with your mom !
 
Posted by vicki on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JARW:
If this thing goes up to some rediculous figure... we should all meet in the bahamas for a break [Big Grin] ... all but you sucksforfun! [Big Grin]

LOL!!
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
Jarw, suckforfun with your mom !

Buddy i don't have a mom --- do your DD!!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
Jarw, suckforfun with your mom !

OMG that was your second rhyme... you are get well which da englisch speak!

Lol too much fun... why bash a stock when you can bash a stock basher [Big Grin]
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
may be with your sister !
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
may be with your sister !

no, that's your gold!
 
Posted by indef on :
 
kids, calm down
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
i'm just having some fun w/ my fellow country man
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
You 2 remind me of these 2 guys:

 -
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Why didn't I buy NDOL at .45....

DK, you realize right now, I should have contracts out on your life and deleet's life...
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Why didn't I buy NDOL at .45....

DK, you realize right now, I should have contracts out on your life and deleet's life...

Don't look behind the couch.

 -
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
Does anyone think this will get back up to .0008 before the merger?
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
It sure as hell would be nice.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JimSC:
JPHC: I called JPHC's 800 number, they said
the shares will be retricted for 1-2 yesrs.
So make sure you cah hold that long before
getting in. Dump it if you are not sure.
JPHC will be a toy of the MMs for
the next few days, watch how they play
the game.

Yeah, tmanfromtexas already got that for us. I don't think anybody here is holding out looking for unrestricted shares. Those getting out are making safe decisions <- IMO -> My point is that this play was not what we expected, but still has opportunity for a squeeze. If your in the red, you can get out now, or see this through and get out next week - maybe red, maybe green.

quote:
Originally posted by JimSC:
JPHC: 3 sharks are after you: MMs, JPHC ceo;
and APAO ceo. Sooner or later, you will be
eaten alive. Get out while you can. Call me
a basher -- if you like. I will get you later.
I am hunting for Iternity of USXP now.

My shark count is a little higher than yours. Repoman has the right of it - our own brokers love cash longs. And then there's the overseas factor. Everyone seems to think they are impervious to pain (pay up), but realize that they entered the system to sell/buy and have to use the same system to buy/sell. Nobody trades and just walks away when things go south for them.

JimSC, we're all bashing this one - welcome to the club. This is the most interesting game of chicken I've seen in a long time - not for the timid.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
yup, this is a serious guts play. And I have them!!! And they will soon be all over my floor
 
Posted by JimSC on :
 
Hi, TickTrader, your post is very interesting.
Thanks for taking time and effort to write. I
hope many members apprecited your post.
 
Posted by Impat on :
 
I sold at the top with 50% gains. If I had been people that bought at 10'....It would be a temptation to sell to limitate losses, but nothing is sure. I got chance on that play! Sold one day before the last news!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I'm not sure why, but I still think those of us still holding are going to end up selling for gain, not loss.

I just have a strange calm, considering I'm down like $10grand, I'm just not worried.

To put it into a sports analogy, it's like the time the Devils were down 3 games to 1 to the Flyers in the playoffs. As a Devils fan that lives in Philly, I was getting made fun of for like 3days at work, and I just took in all the talk, and for some reason, I just FELT that the Devils were going to win.

I have that same calm. I'm just listening to all the bashings, and quietly thinking we'll have our day soon enough.

Hope I'm right.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
My true story? It's still gonna take time for me to laugh about it, so everyone else should have a good one in the meantime.

Sadly, I have too much time right now. Just about everything I own is 'set it and forget it.' What could be more exciting than watching ticks on JPHC?

lol

GL everyone, no matter what decision you make.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
PCola,

I sure as hell hope you are right...I down big time as well...I have no choice but to hold and see what next week brings.....BTW, Go Flames!!!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
5 days left.
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Watch for the lock-in date. Everything suggests it may be sooner than the 10th. Some of us (all balls, no brains) are gonna get caught in a halt. I'm okay with that, but leave some wiggle room for yourself.

Let you know if they want to let me buy at .0004 on close today.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
can anyone tell me what it means to SHORT?
i kinda get the feeling some think this go up just before DDAY.
I was thinking of trying to sell at .006, whr I bought it at, Monday or when if it reaches there next week to take small loss, but perhaps I should hold tell end of week?
any thoughts?
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
This is like deal or no deal:

2 amounts left: $1 and $500,000

All of us left think we have $500,000 in our case - but the reality of it is we have no bank offer in between. It's either win or lose.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
omg deal or no deal I TOLD that ladt to NOT take the deal!!! she had a 50/50 chance of having 1,000,000 or 500,000 in her damn case, nooo she cracked under presure and SHE had 1 million in her damn CASE!! AHHH people play the odds man!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
omg deal or no deal I TOLD that ladt to NOT take the deal!!! she had a 50/50 chance of having 1,000,000 or 500,000 in her damn case, nooo she cracked under presure and SHE had 1 million in her damn CASE!! AHHH people play the odds man!

That lady deserved it - she was obnoxious as hell with all her screaming.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
lol this is true, but I still pictured myself there, KNOWING I probably had atleast 500,000 and she freaking took the deal, I wanted to run her over with my Dodge
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Chad, multiple answers for all questions on all levels can be found right here on allstocks...

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/forum/f/9. html?

Go there and use search tool to find the info.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
We're gonna close at .0004... oofa.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
thx Tick. I remember reading something REPO said about shorting....though I didnt fully grasp, sounded like that would be good for us holders.

Im just stumped on whether to bail as soon as the bid is .006 and buy elsewhere or to wait til DDAY and see if I can make a profit?

guess I got thinking to do.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
would somebody please buy 10 shares at .0009 right at close so we can look at that all weekend? Please lol
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
We closed even although the last trade was at .0004???
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
bah
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
16:02:31 0.0005 1,000,000

No gravy for me at .0004.

Leaving the last sale streamer open for a few hours to check for... well, you know... the trading that never happens.

Chad, please say you mean .0006 and not .006!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I read the NDOL board and I get even more depressed.... they celebrate while we pray.
 
Posted by Darth Vader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
I read the NDOL board and I get even more depressed.... they celebrate while we pray.

HAHAHHAH I'm the same way. I rode RSHN up to a penny from .0009 and it was like a celebration every day on that board. I'm not in JPHC but I know the feeling. Im in PAPO and BKMP. Not very fun as of late.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
AURC is the next play. Putting $50K in that next week. It's do or die.
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
ya Tick, meant .0006. lol
I have made some real bad mistakes these last 3 days, just hoping to break even next week and get some proven stocks and not be so greedy.
Need to learn patience...lol
 
Posted by bmwboyee on :
 
repoman, AURC has been the play. i have done a lot of DD on that stock and entered at .065 on april 1st. i put DD on allstocks if you search.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
So are you saying AURC is no longer the plaY?
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
omg, after 3 days of vacation and i come back to this.. i knew it was too good to be true..
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
next week is "W" week, i'm not selling a penny under 0.001. if this thing has been shorted as people would expect, it will go up by the end of the week, if not will check it out two years from now. i also bought into ddsi at 0.0003 about a week ago.

GO FLAMES!!!!
 
Posted by bmwboyee on :
 
Repo, AURC is STILL the play and will remain. I looked mine up in my vault. this stock has at least $1 written all over it.
 
Posted by weatherbill on :
 
this stock sucks! get out while you can....why tie up your money for 1-2 years????

APOA sucks too......!

JPHC very bad history............
scum bag CEO theif!
 
Posted by Max Shrap on :
 
What are the chances of a reverse split on this puppy?
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chad:
can anyone tell me what it means to SHORT?

Shorting a stock means selling shares that you borrow, or flatly do not posses. You do this based on the hopes that it is going to dip soon, so that you can return your *borrowed* shares at a lesser buy price, so you take the difference in cost as profit.

Sell borrowed shares at $5000
Buy back later at a cost of $3500, not counting any fees that would be $1500 profit as an example.

Very few people can short OTC and pinks, I sure can't.
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
I was lucky to get out at .0011( bought at .0010) when the news came out. You must act quick as soon as possible to avoid losing money.

I got in .0002 DDSI, now it is good.
Now, I am not worry about JPHC.
 
Posted by McShooter on :
 
Go bash somewhere else Suckforfun!!! If you are out of JPHC like you have told all of us, then stay out and don't bother us mourners right now!!! DDSI is a great play right now and alot of the same investors in JPHC are also in DDSI!!! What is your point and do you have anything positive to say? If it's not positive we would appreciate you staying away!!!

Longs Holding Strong and Getting Stronger!!!

500 into 100k...You Gotta' Believe!!!
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
boys? banter is one thing...insults and personal attacks another.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
stockforfun? watch out when you go home...your mom might dash out from beneath the porch and bite you on your punk azz
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
sorry, my mom is not in USA.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
so you're saying yours gets only scraps?
 
Posted by stockforfun on :
 
I enjoy chating on JPHC Message.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
LOL, you want me to get a green card? But yo momma ain't "from here"??????
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
I enjoy chating on JPHC Message.

well, then, chat... leave off the insults...

otherwise, get deleted tonight, banned tomorrow
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
Obviously, we can trade insults--and you ain't prepared, sonny--but that's not what this board is about...
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
helllo? gathering your thoughts?
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
I love stockforfun, he is either foreign, retarded, or a disguise for another member on this forum. Either way hes hilarious.

Oh and....GOOOOOO JPHC!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockforfun:
If you attack someone, they will defend .

you been attacking...about to be attacked, lol

I'm just fooling around so far...

But I'm serious in this: your posts can be deleted, and you can be banned, for what I've seen in this exchange...
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
Just for the record: several posts have been deleted...

banter--even *strong* banter--is no problem. However, outright attacks and personal insults have no place on a premier stock-trading board.

Will review the thread tomorrow for anymore "clean-up" necessary.

Please keep in mind we are liberally moderated, but you can always report problems via the "Report Post" link, next to the whistle icon.

Good luck trading...

[ April 29, 2006, 01:05: Message edited by: BuyTex ]
 
Posted by LARSON on :
 
BuyTex,
Don't give the foreign fruitcake any more air time!

Walk on over to RSHN and look at the kids car wrap - not bad!

By the way, have 4mill jphc bought at .0006....any ideas what to do at this point?

L.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LARSON:
BuyTex,
Don't give the foreign fruitcake any more air time!

Walk on over to RSHN and look at the kids car wrap - not bad!

By the way, have 4mill jphc bought at .0006....any ideas what to do at this point?

L.

SHA-ZZAMMM!
fwiw....? Foreign is no problem...

"fruitcake"?

ya, might have a problem, there...
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuyTex:
[QUOTE]well, then, chat... leave off the insults...

Exactly! We are supposedly adults here, this isn't a place to wait around and watch for stocks to dip and then show up in a thread and heckle everyone. How about a little class.
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuyTex:
[QUOTE]"fruitcake"?

ya, might have a problem, there...

Fruitcake is ok, fruitcakes... well, I can't help you there! [Smile]
 
Posted by tonicma on :
 
Man, I'm glad I got out of this stock when I could. I' not touching this stock anytime
 
Posted by same on :
 
JPHC Scenarion Opinion

Everyone is worried about the Restricted Shares. IMO the CEO of JPHC is not going to lose. This has been in the works for months, we only see what is PR,ed we do not see what is going on behind the scenes.

I contacted a Person in management two months ago, he has a plan IMO.

The JPHC CEO is known for his ability to find distressed companies such as Macro was and pick them up dirt cheap. He has done this with Macro and VXBX. JPHC has Revenues just read the DD page I did on all the JOHC Companies and posted.

Now Sure APO has problems that is why this deal will work and that is why APO was selected as the company to merge with IMO.

The CEO of JPHC just saved 100 to 200 Thousand dollars in Filing Fees by doing the Form 15.

Now we will move to the otc.bb get more exposure and better financing rates with an already established company APO.

Now 005 for JPHC, everyone is worried about the restriction and I understand that but if it were not restricted shares there would be a flood of shares sold.
What if the new shares in 1 year are worth .01 or .02, in two years .04, .05? It coild happen. It could also happen that APO goes under. IMO the risk is Very Low and that is based on all the DD I have researched along with others .

IMO the CEO and CFO of JPHC are not going to lose their money. I beleive there is a plan and that plan is in effect right now.

Now a R/S afterwards could happen, then the shares are less we do not lose any value, the shares are registered and not restricted, we move to a higher exchange, we are now on the watchlist of institutions. This can all happen.

You have to keep the blinders off and see a plan and a vision of what the managemnt is thinking. For me I think this is a Golden Opportunity.

The risk here IMO based on all the DD we have done is extremely low.

I hope this Scenario helps some here.
*************************************************************
ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are two sides to this coin but no one will ever know which is heads and which is tails because there is so much personal BS going on why would anyone bother to sift through it.

This has turned into an egofest that belongs on a playground.

I thought these boards were set up in an attempt to allow investors to decipher what is happening to the stock they are invested in or to gather some information that might aid them in the decision of investing or not investing in a stock.

Whether you are PRO merger, Anti merger or just somewhere in between let's keep our eye on the ball. State your opinion backed up with the facts you have available, if someone posts an alternate view use facts to back up your position and leave the ego's and personal attacks at the door as they accomplish nothing.

Every single person who reads or posts messages must make their own decision if you really want to help them, give them what they need. They don't need 44 posts going back and forth trying to proof who knows more or who can more cleverly put down the other.

There is also a whole lotta assumption going on here that could be construed as misleading at best. I'll give a few examples but am not trying to say that these are the only ones or attempting to single anyone out, they are just a few that stuck out in my mind as I sifted through this swamp.

Assumption #1=They raised the A/S so they could do a R/S and that this is exactly what is going to happen as soon as the deal is done. Not only will the shares be restricted but they will R/S your shares down to nothing.

It's an assumption because it can not be verified or backed up in the least. In fact as far as I'm concerned there are only a couple reasons for a company to do a R/S.

(1) To create more shares because they have reached the limit and can't issue more. Whether it's for legitimate reasons or a part of a scam doesn't matter. It's to raise capital.

(2) To create a higher PPS in order to attract new buyers or to qualify for a different level trading platform. IE going from Pinksheets to the OTCBB or going from the OTCBB to the AMEX or NASQ.

In this case they will have plenty of shares to sell if they want to. no need to do an R/S. If they run out of the 125 billion that they have authorized well let's just say I doubt they would still be a viable stock.

The other Assumption is that the shares will be worth X amount of dollars when they are tradable. Unless someone can actually foretell the future, there is absolutely no way to know what is going to happen tommorrow much less a year or 2 down the road. The company could go out of business, file BK or just plain not trade for whatever reason and end up being worth .0001. Or they could find a way to use Macrosouth and build a solid company that will help raise the PPS higher than anyone could think. The point is NO ONE knows. Since I don't believe in psychic's I don't think anyone can say for a certainty what is going to unfold in the future.

Come on keep about the stock and civil.

GLTA
Wally
 
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
 
I think all pinksheet stocks and otcbb are very risky no matter what the company is and the type.

Always protect your capital and take a little profit to keep you in the game.

Good luck in your trading styles.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Hold or not?

I'm sure everyone has asked themselves this question. So what is your answer. Alot have said no for all kinds of reasons but mainly because they don't want there money tied up for 2 years with no say in what is happening. Or at the end of 2 years who knows what apoa will be worth, they could be bankrupt. Two very good answers in my opinion.

Now, put yourself in Hawkins and Kwongs position except that they collectively hold approx. 4.7B shares. Thru this merger their shares would be tied up for the same 2 years and they would have no voting rights either. Also they don't know for sure if apoa will be around in 2 years.

4.7 BILLION SHARES, tied up for 2 years. I don't think so. Think about this logically, neither you or I or anyone else would stake that much money without any control for 2 years. But yet, if the merger goes thru the way its been talked about here that is exactly what they would be doing. It says in the 8K from apoa that no additional incentives will be payed to any stockholder other than what is laid out in the merger.

So is there something more to this that we don't know about. I don't know for sure and neither do you, but I think there is one thing here that we all can agree on and that is if we had 4.7B shares tied up in this, there would be something more to it that we don't know about or we wouldn't do it.

I don't know what it is but, If I controlled the company with 4.7B shares there is now way that I would sign a merger agreement like this without some sort of plan for recovery. I can just about guarentee it is not going down the way we see it now.

Just think about it logically, thats all I ask. Big money involved here and by the merger agreement we are tied to the big money, same deal, same rights.

There is something else coming here we just don't know what it is, but it won't be shares tied up for 2 years and no voting rights.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
One other thing

At least initially, 2 more things to consider on apoa's side of this.
1) They had to up their AS to such a large amount to cover the transaction. 25B shares though? Yes, and here's why. If for instance apoa's 20 day average dropped to .0025 the day of the merger they would need approx. 20B shares to cover the deal. So, yes its alot of shares but it had to be done.

2) Again, at least initially, the shares would have to be restricted or apoa would not have the authority to carry out the REST OF THE PLAN whatever it may be. If they were not restricted and all of a sudden they had 20B new shareholders, anything they did would have to be put to a vote. With the general attitude of shareholders at this point because we don't know the full extent of the merger, I am reasonably sure that shareholder confidence or lack of it would ruin the company nearly immediately.

Just think about it, can it really be as bad as most of us think, when the officers of jphc will get the same treatment as the rest of us. I don't think so or they would never have signed off on the merger. They could have just RS and diluted and kept playing the game, but they must have seen something better to do with their money, which remember is tied to ours.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Merger

The merger has got to have more to it than what we see here folks. Ray and Kwong will receive new shares at the same conversion rate as we will, and do you think for a minute they will let $23M dollars just sit for 2 years with no guarentee it will even be there at the end.

There is more that we don't know about, plain and simple, it will come out.

So before you let someone talk you into selling at least consider the possiblity that this is not such a bad deal as people bashing this stock would have us believe.

The two best reasons to hold this right now, IMO, are:
1) Because Hawkins and Kwong can't sell their restricted shares so they must go into the merger with anyone that holds, and they would not have signed a deal that ties up $23M for two years with no right to say what happens and
2) The bashers of this stock are still out in force. If they are being paid to bash this stock as many people believe, why are they still here unless their employers still have a monetary interest in it. Makes you wonder.

JMHO,2 very good reasons to hold at this point. What have we got to loose.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Not sure if I ever posted it, but I know I've thought about that too.

If the leaders of JPHC are essentially signing up for the same deal as the rest of us (and I have no way of knowing whether they do or not, I tried to look but haven't been able to confirm or deny), then ajman's logic makes sense. Would you really hand over that much money and hope it's still around in 2 years unless you know something?


People on the RSHN thread are talking about how Michael Lynch inveted so much money in RSHN and is getting restricted shares, so there MUST be something good on the horizon or he wouldn't have agreed to have his money tied up.

The same can be said here (Yes, Michael Lynch is obviously on a different level, but the JPHC people would have to be close to retarded to agree to have their money tied up for so long if they didn't think it was going to be worth significantly more.)

I'm still holding. I don't see the share price of JPHC being under .001 for much longer, and if it is, I may just hold the 2 years and go for broke. WTF do I have to lose at this point?
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
All I got to say is if this doesn't get back to at least .0008 by friday, I'll have no choice but to go into the merger - And if those APOA shares are restricted, then my wife will be gnawing on my c*ck for the next 2 years.
 
Posted by wildweb on :
 
I will continue my holding to. I've lost money on dumber things, and gained money on longer shots. So I am in win, lose, draw...I am here for the ride.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
DK, Gnawing. Damn.... The another side of that coin is that they filed to stop reporting. Does that include the two bastuds, not reporting of selling shares. Who says they even own that amount anymore. They may have been selling since the filing and we would never, ever know. Also the preferred shares arent mentioned in the buyout. Companies dont reverse split preferred shares as far as i know. That is where them two bastuds are gonna make a mint. Reverse split, get the price up to whatever, revert the preferred to common and dump at the great new price. If I was in their shoes and it was legal you bet I would. Then of course I would be a bastud too. lol. I may be all wet but unless some can prove me wrong with SEC documentation I wont be changing my mind. I am hoping for the dcb and will be out, I will etch their names in my long term, short term and no term memory and stay away from them forever. TMAN...
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
DK, Gnawing. Damn.... The another side of that coin is that they filed to stop reporting. Does that include the two bastuds, not reporting of selling shares. Who says they even own that amount anymore. They may have been selling since the filing and we would never, ever know. Also the preferred shares arent mentioned in the buyout. Companies dont reverse split preferred shares as far as i know. That is where them two bastuds are gonna make a mint. Reverse split, get the price up to whatever, revert the preferred to common and dump at the great new price. If I was in their shoes and it was legal you bet I would. Then of course I would be a bastud too. lol. I may be all wet but unless some can prove me wrong with SEC documentation I wont be changing my mind. I am hoping for the dcb and will be out, I will etch their names in my long term, short term and no term memory and stay away from them forever. TMAN...

Can anyone else confirm or debunk this?
 
Posted by will on :
 
I never owned JPHC, but I'd like to meet your wife, and break her of that gnawing habit.

quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
All I got to say is if this doesn't get back to at least .0008 by friday, I'll have no choice but to go into the merger - And if those APOA shares are restricted, then my wife will be gnawing on my c*ck for the next 2 years.


 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
We're friggin toast next wek.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
We're friggin toast next wek.

The way I see it, we already are. Although, I am still praying for a miracle & protection from 2-year gnawing potential. LOL
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
I was wondering the same thing. Does the CEO and others own Pref. Shares? And if so, A, B, or C shares? If they own comon shares like the rest of us they are stuck like the rest of us if they are restricted. I just don't have time to do the research into what shares they own!
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
I was wondering the same thing. Does the CEO and others own Pref. Shares? And if so, A, B, or C shares? If they own comon shares like the rest of us they are stuck like the rest of us if they are restricted. I just don't have time to do the research into what shares they own!

Where could I find this info? I do have some time to check into it.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
hmmm I would assume back in a filing of when the new CEO came on board, if he purchased those shares from the previous CEO. if you find it let us know!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
P.S.
if he is the original CEO then it would probably be in the Bi Laws of the corporation??? Somebody else know about that?
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
You guys sound like Titanic's builders as the ship is sinking... "Now mates, where is that bulkhead shutoff valve? Are the watertight compartments really watertight?"
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
You guys sound like Titanic's builders as the ship is sinking... "Now mates, where is that bulkhead shutoff valve? Are the watertight compartments really watertight?"

LOL no it's more like we would be putting on womans dresses and getting on the life rafts !!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
If the pantyhose would fit, I'd wear them to get out of this mess.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
Bad Mental picture!
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Pinksheets has 8ks and form 4s listed. From what I saw since the first of the year, our ole buddy ray received 2.4 BILLION shares of common and 67 MILLION Preferred B shares. His lackey Kwong must have pizzed him off because he only got 53 million of common and Preferred B shares. There are 3 other form 4s for more than 3 BILLION shares that were given to both but it says they were disposed of. probably in the open market. Also the 8k's mention millions of shares issued as non registered shares for payments. That tells me everything I need to know about the prefered shares. TMAN...
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
great and here is the thing, how many common shares will he get when he converts his preferred? That should be in the company bilaws are something. hmmm Thanks Tman
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
great and here is the thing, how many common shares will he get when he converts his preferred? That should be in the company bilaws are something. hmmm Thanks Tman

Yeah thanks Tman and good question...
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
So how fearful is anyone on keeping this new stock for 1 or 2 yrs, if say u didnt need the money for other stocks or something else?

If given a choice, would you leave now and break even? or maybe take an automatic 200/300% return after conversion and then also have the possibility of the stock going up from new price over the 2 yrs.

I doubt they go bankrupt personally. I think they could maintain a penny a share. However, it could end up being higher or lower?

But, if the 20 day avg is say a .01, then with a 4 for 1 tradeoff, and buying JPHC at .0006, you'd end up with a nice 300% gain in ur account balance right off the bat. Then just pray it dont go down after 2 yrs. thats the gamble
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
ajman, as usual, your posts are thoughtful and logically presented. You put words to my original scenario. From there, we should expect bashing - serious bashers. Instead/additionally, we get group visitors claiming to own the float. Testimonials from multiple group owners. This post is from page 54?...

quote:
Originally posted by DrWho:
To be totally honest, the APO shares we are gauranteed are leverage... leverage to stay until we can see if there is INDEED a massive short squeeze to occur. Even if nothing happens, the potential for a 5 banger in a REPORTING OTBCC company that now has DOUBLED its revenues with Macro (15 billion) is not bad to use as a last resort.

My goal is the pennies in JPHC... and the more we squeeze the Shorts come May 7-10... the more chance this will happen.

The Doctor

The next post, also from the doc, reads...

And yes, the crew of longs is still hanging out until the end. We still own the float ourselves... everyone else above that is GRAVY!

The Doctor

--------------------
DrWho


When someone heralds 'power to the little peeps, teach those MMs a lesson' and encourages holding through the merger, then I have to admit my original scenario is no longer valid. IMO - we will see an improvement in JPHC pps simply because it is a sweet merger deal, but I would be surprised if it is squeezed into the pennies or, for that matter, above .0048.

Looking at JPHC volume from the beginning of time, I don't see evidence of negative float - which again throws all of my research and trading skills out the window if there is a negative float. What I 'see' is usual trading patterns - healthy run-ups, profit-taking, resting for accumulation, all the standard stuff. I've watched how easy it is to corral the MMs on this one. There's more involved here than we know.

So, I have one general question... Is anyone from allstocks (long-time) in this group of 150?

And I will repeat a specific question... Doc, did your group acquire the JPHC float in the open market (all, part, or none)?
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
If the pantyhose would fit, I'd wear them to get out of this mess.

lol, repo, too much information.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
APOA 20 SMA at .0145

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=APOA&p=D&yr=0&mn=0&dy=20&id=p07285483239

In stead of multiplying your shares by .25 to get the conversion ratio, based on .0145 you multiply your shares by .34 to get the true exchange ratio

I've only got 2.5 million left sitting in an IRA. No matter what, my 2.5 million shares are going to be worth $12,500 once this deal closes.

APOA has over 20 billion shares to issue to buy another company (2, 3, 4 etc...) and give them restricted shares as well. At least JPHC'ers are first in line for the restriction to be lifted.

If APOA/JPHC is so worried about a dump after the conversion if the shares were free trading right away, what is to make us think that the first day the shares become tradeable that the stock won't dump?
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
quote:
Pinksheets has 8ks and form 4s listed. From what I saw since the first of the year, our ole buddy ray received 2.4 BILLION shares of common and 67 MILLION Preferred B shares. His lackey Kwong must have pizzed him off because he only got 53 million of common and Preferred B shares. There are 3 other form 4s for more than 3 BILLION shares that were given to both but it says they were disposed of. probably in the open market. Also the 8k's mention millions of shares issued as non registered shares for payments. That tells me everything I need to know about the prefered shares. TMAN...
TMAN. the millions of shares mentioned on 8Ks are restricted so they didnot and willnot hit the market before conversion to apoa.
Also the if you look at the 8Ks for the shares that went to Hawkins and Kwong, including the ones that show disposed of on the Form 4s, they are also restricted and thus not on the market.

Hawkins and Kwong have collectively 200M shares of preferred stock and the rest is common restricted that will go thru the merger. I don't know yet what the conversion is or will be for the preferred stock but it is also restricted, so the recent spike in volume has not come from them.
I am trying to find out how the preferred stock will be handled in the conversion, because IMO, that will be a telling sign of things to come. If the preferred is converted into restricted shares, that only reinforces my theory that there is much more to come in this merger that we don't know about. When I find out I will post back here.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
quote:
If APOA/JPHC is so worried about a dump after the conversion if the shares were free trading right away, what is to make us think that the first day the shares become tradeable that the stock won't dump?


Roiresearch, before the restricted shares in apoa are traded there will have to be a RS. It will need to be done for apoa to keep control of the company, otherwise shareholders would vote them out. Logically there will be a RS. However in my opinion this is not a bad thing at all. If the pps for apoa is .005 (just an example) at the time of a RS of 100/1 (again just an example) the pps would increase to $.50 and the OS would decrease to around 100M. If they RS the AS as well then the AS becomes 250M shares.

Who here after having expierence in investing in OTC and Pinksheets stock would not find the following OTC company attractive for investment.

AS.........250M
OS.........100M
no debt (all cleaned up before merger with restricted shares)
and revenues of 20-30 million per year.

Looks better than 90% of the OTC companies out there.
 
Posted by bmwboyee on :
 
ajman, even after a R/S doesn't mean that the stock price will reflect the split. There are some out there like IGTG that after the R/S they were at the same PPS as before teh split. If either company products any type of profits, there was no need in a 25 billion A/S. worst case scenerio is that they would have to issue 10 billion shares which was the O/S of JPHC. It makes you question what they are going to do with the extra 15 billion shares. APOA has had a lot of S-8's. you have to look at their past combined with JPHC's past, well, it is about that time of year for JPHC to switch companies and start the dilution all over again. Call me a basher, that is fine, but i ask that you just look at their past.

what is the old saying?
"once a cheater, always a cheater"

Good luck on your investment, I do not hold a position for I sold it last week on the way down from the spike. But i feel i was stolen from this whole time. Good Luck to all.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
At least initially, 2 more things to consider on apoa's side of this.
1) They had to up their AS to such a large amount to cover the transaction. 25B shares though? Yes, and here's why. If for instance apoa's 20 day average dropped to .025 the day of the merger they would need approx. 20B shares to cover the deal. So, yes its alot of shares but it had to be done.

2) Again, at least initially, the shares would have to be restricted or apoa would not have the authority to carry out the REST OF THE PLAN whatever it may be. If they were not restricted and all of a sudden they had 20B new shares, anything they did would have to be put to a vote. With the general attitude of shareholders at this point because we don't know the full extent of the merger, I am reasonably sure that shareholder confidence or lack of it would ruin the company nearly immediately.

I don't call anyone a basher unless its obvious. This is why they had to increase the AS. This is also why I feel they will need to RS once settled.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
one other thing.

When a stock goes thru a RS the price mustgo up by that same multiple. It has to period. The problem comes in when a company doesn't have the structure to support the RS price. You're right bmw in that when alot of companies go thru a RS their price just drops right back down where it was. Look at the financials of the companies that you know of that have done this.

Now look at what the financials of the apoa would be post conversion and post RS.

AS 250M shares
OS 100M shares
pps around $.50
no debt

Better than most you see today. I think this type of structure with revs in the 20-30 million dollar range would easily support this price and probably increase from there not decrease.
 
Posted by bmwboyee on :
 
ajman, i think you need to go back and read the 8-K a little better. From the 8-K:

CONVERSION OF THE TARGET COMMON STOCK OF TARGET . Each share of Common Stock of TARGET issued and outstanding immediately prior to the Effective Time shall be converted into and become a right to receive one-quarter (0.25) of a Share of Common Stock (“Conversion Price”), subject to adjustment as provided herein, of the PARENT (the “Issuable Shares”) and shall automatically be canceled and retired and shall cease to exist. The Conversion Price is premised on the market price of the PARENT’s common stock at the time of execution of this Agreement, being $0.02 per share (“Market Price”).

what is is saying is that JPHC shares would be valued at .005 and APOA would close at .02 you would get 1 share of APOA for every 4 shares you own of JPHC. I understand the 20 day avg.

This is general:

Say you own 1,000,000 of JPHC.

1,000,000 * .25 = 250,000 shares of APOA you would recieve.

So if you take JPHC O/S which is taken from the 8-K:

SECTION 3.02 CAPITALIZATION


The authorized capital stock of TARGET consists of 10,000,000,000 shares of common stock, $0.0001 par value per share, and 500,000,000 shares of preferred stock, $.0001 par value per share. As of the date of this Agreement, there were approximately 9,907,123,955 shares of common stock issued and outstanding.

So you take the O/S:

9,907,123,955 * .25 = 2,476,780,989 new shares

there is NO reason to issue 25 billion shares when 2.5 billion is only needed. I think you left a 0 out when you put .025. if it sinks to .0025 then yes, you would get 2 shares of APOA for every 1 of JPHC. But why would this stock tank THAT far. it has to say something about the company also. Just my thoughts.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
I'm not saying that it would tank to .0025 (and yes I did leave out a 0 sorry about the confusion), what I am saying is as long as they had to increase AS to cover the deal anyway, they needed to be sure that they would have the shares available to do it no matter what happened. They would not want to go into the deal on May 10th and not have the available shares to consummate the deal.

All I'm saying is that if they do as stated above in my post they wind up with a very attractive OTC company with good revenues and no debt that the pps would probably increase instead of decrease in. But I don't know if they will do this and honestly neither do you.

If it is as you say and the pps stays up and they only end up needing 2.5B to finish the deal and they don't reverse split, then there is a real problem and I think it would kill the company. So, IMO, they could go either way, why would they choose to not RS and not have a healthy company.

Its all speculation BMW, and I'm just trying to look at it logically. But then you're right it could go the other way.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
I've seen more r/s where the a/s will remain the same

Let's assume APOA issues all 25 billion shares and needs a 100:1 r/s to get back to 250 million

Nothing is written in stone, so you cannot assume that if there is a r/s that the a/s will be adjusted accordingly. I believe MRKL is a good example.
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
quote:
Say you own 1,000,000 of JPHC.

1,000,000 * .25 = 250,000 shares of APOA you would recieve.

So if you take JPHC O/S which is taken from the 8-K:

Right now the conversion ratio is .34 since the 20 SMA is at .0145, not .02

This isn't rocket science, so let's stop confusing the situation.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
Hawkins and Kwong are going into this with control of up to 4.7B shares common restricted which will go thru the conversion the same as ours. With that much money on the table don't you think they probably have some sort of garentee that this won't be destined to go back to the Pinks with a pps o .0001 before restrictions are lifted and they can sell their shares. I think they know more than we do about this. It also says in the 8K that no additional perks are given to any stockholders in the company. So what Hawkins and Kwong have going in is unsecured jobs as CEO and CFO of the new jupiter and collectively 200M shares preferred of the old jphc that we don't know what the conversion is and then the up to 4.7B of common.

Personally, I think they know about the future plans that isn't public knowledge yet or why else would they tie up there monies in this deal?
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
With this talk of a reverse split consider this:

1. Merger conversion - Own 4 JPHC, Get 1 APOA
2. Reverse Split within 2 yr restriction period after merger/conversion - 4 to 1 w/ no change in share price.

What does that calculate to? APOA will have just got JPHC for free, IMO.

Question: Can they reverse split restricted shares?

Another scenario, not in our favor:

1. You go into the merger w/ shares restricted for 2 years.
2. On the 22nd month of restricted period, APOA merges w/ another co. under the same scenario - your APOA shares will now be restricted ANOTHER 2 years under that co.


Lord have mercy on us this week!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
I've done my squats over the weekend to tighten my azz up... but I feel another raping coming.. ooooo.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
Grab your ancles Repo!!!
 
Posted by bmwboyee on :
 
Here is an email a guy got from raging bull from the IR President :

By: whoslooking099
30 Apr 2006, 08:40 PM EDT
Msg. 50109 of 50109

e-mail i received from IR Glenn
The exchanged shares are subject to Rule 144 of the Securities Act of 1933 which states that the subject shares are restricted for a period of two years. After the first year a limited amount of shares can be sold by non-affiliates based on market volume or issue and outstanding shares amount.

In the Form 14c filed recently by APO Medical a corporate name change was approved. If the name change is made effective then the Company must apply for a new ticker symbol.

If all the exchange shares become free trading there is a strong probability that a massive sell off would occur and the share price could be depressed.

I hope this answers you questions. Feel free to contact us if you need further clarification.


Thank you,
Glenn L. Liddell

President

Loyola Financial Services, Inc.

2501 N. Green Valley Parkway, Suite 110

Henderson, Nevada, 89014

Telephone: 702.317.2300

Facsimile: 702.317.2301

www.4LFS.com
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
AJ, you may be right about the shares being restricted and not being dumped but since they dont report anymore and they gave themselves 3 billion shares 2/3 months prior to this fiasco, we have no idea what happens with those shares. One day this week we had a 2billion day. The form 4 says they were disposed of. Doesnt that mean they were sold into the market? Why dispose of the preferred? Heck that wasnt discussed in the press release and I am not rereading that long ass 8k to find out. Sorry. The one thing that I like is that part about being a good deal to the shareholders. yeah, ray and his lackey kwong. They are share holders or were at one point. TMAN... PS repo, glad to here you did the squats, make sure you have a water based lubricant, oil based products can cause problems. lol TMAN...
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Just read that email, wow I am impressed... Glen is the guy I spoke to right after this fiasco hit the wires. Just a regular guy answering the telephone. Bunch of bastuds... TMAN... BTW I just want everyone to know that I own shares of this pos and I will sell this week at some point. I dont want anyone thinking I am bashing and not owning. I own so therefore I have the right to make my opinion known right or wrong, whatever that may be. Have a great week trading. TMAN...
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
I decided to ride this til end of week. Will do calculating on Thurdsay night and decide to hold or not, maybe I make a gain or take a loss, who knows.
If all is right, I can make 50% gain, and take out original investment and ride free shares and see what happens over 1 to 2 yrs.
Yes, stocks like NDOL, RSHN, PBLS, and others will go up this week, but, Im going to give this to end of week.
Now somebody pass me another drink! lol
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
TMAN........

If Hawkins and Kwong were dumping shares they would not have the shares available to sign this deal and there would have to be a proxy vote. They had about a 200M share majority in their control. If more than that was sold they could not sign without a proxy vote, so it's not coming from them.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
.0004... oh boy.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
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Posted by dkinvest on :
 
This whole debacle still blows me away.
Merger says conversion value of 1 JPHC common is .005, yet the current price of JPHC is .0005 - 1/10th of conversion value.


[Frown]
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
ya it gives me the hershey squirts
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
It makes absolutely no sense to me.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
I just think this stock already has it's longs in. Sadly and flippers may be to scared to touch it? NO clue, I still think it will go up somewhat. Just don't know how far
 
Posted by DZWulf on :
 
Hold a minute longer. I just put in a sell order for what I have so it should jump a bit after mine goes thru.

PS wow DK you had a smiley for that too!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DZWulf:
Hold a minute longer. I just put in a sell order for what I have so it should jump a bit after mine goes thru.

PS wow DK you had a smiley for that too!

You selling at 4 or 5?
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
Looks like this is establishing a solid base at 4-5....1 good PR and she's gonna explode......LOL
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
This whole debacle still blows me away.
Merger says conversion value of 1 JPHC common is .005, yet the current price of JPHC is .0005 - 1/10th of conversion value.


[Frown]

Anyone want to post their thoughts as to why this is presently at 1/10th of the conversion value?
 
Posted by db on :
 
when is the last trading day ? if MM's don't have to worry about covering shorts wouldn't they be accumulating shares at these low prices for atleast one more run near the ex date? I'm still waiting for MM's to move or another pr
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
This defies the law of simple math.

10M shares of JPHC $ 5,000, after conversion they are worth $ 50,000.

So why are we at 1/10 of conversion? [Confused]
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Are we there yet?

dkinvest, at this rate, the MMs will be short by the end of this week. A non-fluff PR would be nice, too. Still looking for how/when the Livestar spin-off will happen.

GL
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
dk, cause there is no cash involved, that's the convesion rate, but there is no guarantee apoa would we worth any money two years down the road.

GO FLAMES!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bikerider:
dk, cause there is no cash involved, that's the convesion rate, but there is no guarantee apoa would we worth any money two years down the road.

GO FLAMES!

I hear you - but it still makes no sense to me. After all it still is JPHC under a new name.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Bad news - I sold this morning at .0004 for a 60% loss....

GOOD NEWS - I bought PGPM at .013 - up 400%!!!! THERE IS A GOD, HIS NAME IS SUPERMAN!

I'm outta of this POS, and the azz rapings are over!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
I'm still holding till friday....This thing has gotta have at least one more pop.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Congrats Repo, I saw teh PGPM post but had no free funds. Wow how I regret not doing exactly what you did.

My ass still hurts. [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Bad news - I sold this morning at .0004 for a 60% loss....

GOOD NEWS - I bought PGPM at .013 - up 400%!!!! THERE IS A GOD, HIS NAME IS SUPERMAN!

I'm outta of this POS, and the azz rapings are over!


 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Good for you repo. Now send Superman over to USXP to do his magic so I can unload that POS. [Wink]
 
Posted by buterjames on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Bad news - I sold this morning at .0004 for a 60% loss....

GOOD NEWS - I bought PGPM at .013 - up 400%!!!! THERE IS A GOD, HIS NAME IS SUPERMAN!

I'm outta of this POS, and the azz rapings are over!

can't even get rid of the POS to get more PGPM...also in with PGPM * .013...JPHC losses null and void!!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
Sorry guys - Sold this and jumped on PGPM - You need to read that PR...Holy Sheet!!!!!!!!!!

OIL/GAS IS THE PLAY, NOT THIS JPHC MERGER BS. GLTA.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
PGPM up over 800%. Unbelievable. Wish I had bought in first thing this morning. I always miss the boat!!!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by amswap:
PGPM up over 800%. Unbelievable. Wish I had bought in first thing this morning. I always miss the boat!!!

GOING MUCH HIGHER THIS WEEK - LOOK AT WHAT NDOL DID.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
how much higher? Should I sell JPHC and get in now even though it already ran so high???? Hard to believe!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
how much higher? Should I sell JPHC and get in now even though it already ran so high???? Hard to believe!

Anything around a dime should be good - .50 by friday, IMO
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Letitride, dump this POS. Wait till tomorrow when PGPM dips at the open, and join the ride.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
omg I might do this...omg am I really going to sell for a huge loss??? omg omg omg ummmmm
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
omg I might do this...omg am I really going to sell for a huge loss??? omg omg omg ummmmm

dude, if it makes you feel better, I lost 6G on this POS. Do it - do it now!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
What loss??? Hahahaha! You mean the 1000% gain - 60% loss?
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
ok I put in an order to sell for .0005 if it doent go in the next hour i will bring it down to .0004 I really dont want to give up on this until it hit .0008 but I figure I may as well gamble on something else now
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
The cheese stands alone, the cheese stands alone

Heigh ho the dairy-o the cheese stands alone [Smile]

I'm still going down with the ship.

See you all on the other side!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
The cheese stands alone, the cheese stands alone

Heigh ho the dairy-o the cheese stands alone [Smile]

I'm still going down with the ship.

See you all on the other side!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol - Good luck PCola
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
(&**#&!*(%$#* wont go through at .0004 lol
 
Posted by roiresearch on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
The cheese stands alone, the cheese stands alone

Heigh ho the dairy-o the cheese stands alone [Smile]

I'm still going down with the ship.

See you all on the other side!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great Quote - still got 2.5 million and managed to sell for a minor profit

Curious to see what happens when this deal closes
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
I'll re-buy this when it hits .0001
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
I'll re-buy this when it hits .0001

omg you're stockforfun!!! LMAO
 
Posted by cottonjim on :
 
Hi guys, just checking in on my favorite bored, I mean board. I am a little suprised everyone hasn't bailed yet. Or did you all bail and buy in cheaper hoping to flip? Anyone going to see this through the aquisition date?
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Ajman, just for clarification, they signed the deal Friday the 21st. That is when the count starts for the 20 days regarding the conversion. The PR didnt come out until late Monday. After they sealed the deal they sold like there was no tomorrow. just my opinion. TMAN...
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tmanfromtexas:
Ajman, just for clarification, they signed the deal Friday the 21st. That is when the count starts for the 20 days regarding the conversion. The PR didnt come out until late Monday. After they sealed the deal they sold like there was no tomorrow. just my opinion. TMAN...

Sorry should have said late Tuesday, the 25th. TMAN...
 
Posted by Ragedbull777 on :
 
Just jumped in today at .0004. Hope it works out. GLTA: [Smile]
 
Posted by BigGuy133 on :
 
I am holding until the conversion. I won't sell at such a loss
 
Posted by Ragedbull777 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by amswap:
PGPM up over 800%. Unbelievable. Wish I had bought in first thing this morning. I always miss the boat!!!

I feel for those people that sold early before the news. Some sold 300,000 and 400,000 shares at .01, which amounted to $3,000 and $4,000 when it could of been $30,000 and $40,000. Ouch! That's got to hurt. Thats a new car. [Frown]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Pizz on this POS.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Hey man, you could at least wish me (I may be the only one left from close to the beginning...) some luck [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Pizz on this POS.


 
Posted by BigGuy133 on :
 
I really can't decide what to think about this stock until they give me more news. All this speculation is not worth much at this point.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
LOL.. i'm sooooo glad i dumped this POS for 4k loss.. and got on PGPM before the rally.. gained over 40k.. blessing is disguise..
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Me too. Sorry Pcola... I just had to vent now that this nightmare is over.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Me too! Sorry Pcola, just had to vent at this POS now that I'm out.. nightmare over.
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Me too. Sorry Pcola... I just had to vent now that this nightmare is over.

yea, tell me about it.. i've been dying for the past week b/c of JPHC .. not to mention all the others.. from now on, i only play stocks with profits.. no more risks.. banking my gains
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Forget profits, have to go with MOMO's period.... if I would have sold JPHC at .0013, I'd be looking at 40K today instead of 6K on PGPM
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
ya ya I couldnt sell at .0004, I refuse to sell even lower, maybe I will just wire some money to my scottrade acount in the morning and hope I don't miss another run before the money hits my acount...and hold onto this a few days longer *sigh*
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Still here, like a good little cheese.

I missed the oil gusher - life got in the way.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
I'm still here too... i'd rather be hanging here, but have been in the hospital --- surgery next week on my knee--- but i'm still holding long and strong ---- hoping to atleast break even!!! We'll see!!! Hope is all we've got!
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
So for those that are still in this, do you feel the MM's will boost the price of stock before EOD Friday, or will it stay around .0005?

Just wondering others thoughts, Im in this till Friday at least or .001, whichever comes 1st. If I cant sell half my shares by Friday at .0005, then I'll just keep them for 2 yrs I guess.

Im going to keep half my shares in all the way, no matter what happens by EOW. Maybe I get lucky and the new company does well?
 
Posted by yolkarmy on :
 
weak sauce [Wink]

i still have not sold.. way too early.
 
Posted by wildweb on :
 
PCola77

I am still here with you to. So I can promise you this, you wont be sinking on this ship alone!! Lets just hope something good comes very, very soon....Otherwise lets hope 2 yrs from now life is treating the new stock good [Confused]

Good luck to all still holding long (whether it be because of losses or other reasons)....Damn I wish I would have got into that oil gusher though...Oh well, I am cursed to wait for JPHC, cursed for now [Embarrassed] , hopefully blessed later [Big Grin]
 
Posted by J_U_ICE on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wildweb:
PCola77

I am still here with you to. So I can promise you this, you wont be sinking on this ship alone!! Lets just hope something good comes very, very soon....Otherwise lets hope 2 yrs from now life is treating the new stock good ;-)

Good luck to all still holding long (whether it be because of losses or other reasons)....Damn I wish I would have got into that oil gusher though...Oh well, I am cursed to wait for JPHC, cursed for now, hopefully blessed later ;-)

I'm riding this hunk o' sh*t with you guys
 
Posted by wildweb on :
 
see we arent alone....yet...take a look around [Roll Eyes]

P.S.J_U_ICE

The life jackets are over there ----->
Just in case [Wink]
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
yeah, I'm in too
 
Posted by deleet on :
 
hey im with you guys too. Not selling for a loss. Wont be selling it unless it flies up before the conversion date.
 
Posted by ajman on :
 
doesn't work that way TMAN.

You have to have the shares for control on the date it is finalized or you have to have the vote of the majority of stockholders.

It is finalized or the deal is closed on settlement date.
 
Posted by jdg257 on :
 
"not selling for a loss" = "i am a bagholder"

ask yourself the question- "if i wasnt already in the stock would i buy into this stock right now?" if its yes then hold, if its no, then get out theres no point in holding a POS just because you would sell for a loss.
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Glad ot see I'm not all alone in this. Basically unless I am completely reading all of this wrong, as of the finalization of the merger I'll have $50,000 in APO that I can't touch for 2 years. Although I wouldn't typically feel comfortable with that, i just feel like selling now at .0004 or .0003 for 1/16th of the conversion value is silly. I'm willing to take the chance that in two years APO has not lost 95% of it's share price. Even if they're down 80% I'll make money (if I can sell).

And yeah, I know there's a chance (maybe even a good chance) that they won't be in existence in two years, the risk/reward is such that I;m holding for the 2 years unless something drastic happens with the shre price before the merger is finalized.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
3rd page... looks like not too many are talking about this anymore! What are peoples thoughts and feelings about JPHC come friday? If you don't want to be seen on this board anymore [Big Grin] pm me [Big Grin] !!! Night! the j-man!
 
Posted by gfm50 on :
 
I predict a dead cat bounce at EOW...

I'm not in JPHC anymore btw...
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I'm actualyl considering throwing $2K more at this today if I can get it at .0002.

Would double my position to 20mil shares and bring my average down to .0006 from .001. $2K for a slim chance at $50K is something I'm willing to do. Maybe that's why I'm not making as much money here as the rest of you seem to be doing [Smile]

Oh well, I'll always be a gambler at heart.
 
Posted by BigGuy133 on :
 
I would definately hold JPHC for 2 years at an approx. 300% gain. You find me another stock that will return the same results in that amount of time.
 
Posted by same on :
 
The Deal IMO

First of all the restriction is not etched in stone as some want you to think. If you read the 8-K there is a sentence that spells that out. Now it may happen and it may not. It is still being talked about by the parties involved.

Second APO has been in existence for 20 years, they have 1300 to 1400 shareholders that they bring to the merger. This Company is not a Scam it is a Viable reporting company.

Third when the merger happens and I hope it does JPHC will be a fully reporting Company, have more shareholders, have better exposure on a diferent exchange with better financeing.

Fourth, the goal is for the new Company to move to a higher exchange such as the Nasdaq or the American IMO and the people I talked to.

I have done my DD and IMO this is a good deal.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BigGuy133:
I would definately hold JPHC for 2 years at an approx. 300% gain. You find me another stock that will return the same results in that amount of time.

How about PGPM - 2000% in 2 days?
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
Are we there yet?


I'm in JPHC for a potential 18+ bagger. A few more days is worth the risk of what that '+' could add.
GLA
 
Posted by BigGuy133 on :
 
Repo, for some reason i dont think pgpm released a press release saying their stock would go up 2000% percent. So, maybe i wasnt clear enough for you, but i do believe jphc has stated approx what the stock will be worth
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BigGuy133:
Repo, for some reason i dont think pgpm released a press release saying their stock would go up 2000% percent. So, maybe i wasnt clear enough for you, but i do believe jphc has stated approx what the stock will be worth

Not 2000%, but 331,500%

Read the PR...price at time of PR was .01
 
Posted by lostone on :
 
don't know if you guys do this already, but check in on Superman7's posts once a while.. you don't have to jump in.. but just look at it and do you dd. He usually does it for us.. but you should too before you jump in..PGPM, FPPL, and just like his pick again today SVYRE.. all those who lost in JPHC should just give it a try.. I'm sure glad I did..
 
Posted by db on :
 
if JPHC is shorted heavily by MM's then this is going to get interesting soon,it seems all who were going to sell have sold and MM's may need shares badly if true they will turn on each other ,I know MM's read this board so if your short watch out your little friends are only going to help you so much be careful - JEFF , FRAN I bet UBSS and NITE are doing you
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Sets Record Date for All JUPITER Shareholders of Record as of Close of Business Wednesday May 10, 2006 for Potential Stock Dividend From Potential Spin-Off of Its Entertainment Interests
Thursday May 4, 12:25 pm ET


LAS VEGAS, NV--(MARKET WIRE)--May 4, 2006 -- JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER" or the "Company") (Other OTC:JPHC.PK - News) today announces that all JUPITER shareholders of record at the close of business Wednesday, May 10, 2006, Eastern Daylight Time (the "Record Date") will be on record to receive a stock dividend in the potential spin-off of JUPITER's entertainment interests, should the directors determine to actually declare the dividend.
ADVERTISEMENT


The JUPITER board of directors has previously announced plans to spin-off its entertainment interests ("Plan") to its shareholders. The Plan began to take shape shortly after board approval and as part of the Plan, the board's intention is that within the process of executing the spin-off, a stock dividend may be declared to its shareholders of record. The Company believes a transaction that would result in the spin-off of its entertainment interests and subsequent stock dividend would be very beneficial to its shareholders. The previously announced merger transaction with APO Health, Inc. that the Company is now involved in ("Merger Transaction") impacts the viability of the Plan.

Management at this time feels that if a spin-off is approved by the board of directors in the future, the board prefers to ensure that the subsequent stock dividend is beneficial to its current shareholders. With this in mind, JUPITER management felt that setting a Record Date prior to closing of the Merger Transaction would be a key step in keeping that aforementioned benefit available to its current shareholders.

Although Management is encouraged at this stage of the Plan, no assurances can be given that a spin-off and subsequent stock dividend will be completed and approved post-closing of the Merger Transaction. In addition, management wishes to notify its shareholder that if the potential spin-off and subsequent stock dividend occurs, there is no specific timeline for the stock dividend to be executed and actually delivered to shareholders as of the Record Date.

Any additional information and instructions about the potential spin-off will be provided when determined and available.

Ray Hawkins, CEO of JUPITER, commented: "We are pleased to be able to announce the Record Date for a potential spin-off and subsequent potential stock dividend. We wish we were able to be more definite at this time but we feel that taking a snap shot of our shareholder base before the closing of the Merger Transaction is the best way for us to preserve a potential stock dividend for JUPITER shareholders."

ABOUT JUPITER GLOBAL HOLDINGS, CORP.

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. is a holding company with interests and developments in a diverse number of growing industries. JUPITER plans to achieve a leadership position through the building of a synergistic network of innovative, profitable and global businesses.

CAUTIONARY STATEMENT REGARDING FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS

The Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 (the "PLSLRA") provides a "safe harbor" for forward-looking statements so long as those statements are identified as forward-looking and are accompanied by meaningful cautionary statements identifying important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in such statements. Statements contained herein that are not based on historical fact , as well as other statements including words such as "anticipate," "believe," "plan," "estimate," "expect," "intend," "will," "could" and other similar expressions, constitute forward-looking statements under the PSLRA. Jupiter intends that such forward-looking statements be subject to the safe harbor created thereby. Such forward-looking statements are based on current assumptions but involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause Jupiter actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from current expectations. These risks include economic, competitive, governmental, technological and other factors discussed in Jupiter annual, quarterly and other periodic public filings on record with the Securities and Exchange Commission which can be viewed free of charge on its website at http://www.sec.gov.
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
That bastud is so full of sheet it kills me. Potential, possible, maybe, could happen, benefit to shareholders, (my Azz) is all a front in my opinion. He can take his possible spin off and shove it up his azz with a 2X4. Son of a bittch. TMAN...
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
DOWN GOES FRAZIER! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!
 
Posted by db on :
 
alot of nothing in that pr except "taking a snapshot of our share holders base" seems to be saying MM's if your shorted time is near and you could have to pay for a divi too
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
That's about like me saying, "I will definately invest in your company if certain conditions exist, but I am in the process of getting funds cleared from another sale and if that money isn't used on another stock, I will definately buy your stock and possibly invest in your company if I think I got enough from the other sale and you continue to exist. I should even double my investment and likely will due to what I really wanted to receive from the sale of other stock and when I consider buying your stock, I will definately buy it unless there is another stock I like better. As long as nothing else in my head says otherwise, I'm definately investing a large amount in your stock and I'm sure if I choose to invest in your company, you'll be much better off."

What a bunch of two faced double talk.
 
Posted by same on :
 
Not IMO I beleive the Divedend will come and the wording in the PR is such for a reason. A lot of disgrunted posters here on JPHC and some of you probably don't own JPHC.
I did my DD and I am staying unless there is a very large short covering.


JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. Sets Record Date for All JUPITER Shareholders of Record as of Close of Business Wednesday May 10, 2006 for Potential Stock Dividend From Potential Spin-Off of Its Entertainment Interests
via COMTEX

May 4, 2006

LAS VEGAS, NV, May 04, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX News Network) --

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. ("JUPITER" or the "Company") (OTC: JPHC) today announces that all JUPITER shareholders of record at the close of business Wednesday, May 10, 2006, Eastern Daylight Time (the "Record Date") will be on record to receive a stock dividend in the potential spin-off of JUPITER's entertainment interests, should the directors determine to actually declare the dividend.

The JUPITER board of directors has previously announced plans to spin-off its entertainment interests ("Plan") to its shareholders. The Plan began to take shape shortly after board approval and as part of the Plan, the board's intention is that within the process of executing the spin-off, a stock dividend may be declared to its shareholders of record. The Company believes a transaction that would result in the spin-off of its entertainment interests and subsequent stock dividend would be very beneficial to its shareholders. The previously announced merger transaction with APO Health, Inc. that the Company is now involved in ("Merger Transaction") impacts the viability of the Plan.

Management at this time feels that if a spin-off is approved by the board of directors in the future, the board prefers to ensure that the subsequent stock dividend is beneficial to its current shareholders. With this in mind, JUPITER management felt that setting a Record Date prior to closing of the Merger Transaction would be a key step in keeping that aforementioned benefit available to its current shareholders.

Although Management is encouraged at this stage of the Plan, no assurances can be given that a spin-off and subsequent stock dividend will be completed and approved post-closing of the Merger Transaction. In addition, management wishes to notify its shareholder that if the potential spin-off and subsequent stock dividend occurs, there is no specific timeline for the stock dividend to be executed and actually delivered to shareholders as of the Record Date.

Any additional information and instructions about the potential spin-off will be provided when determined and available.

Ray Hawkins, CEO of JUPITER, commented: "We are pleased to be able to announce the Record Date for a potential spin-off and subsequent potential stock dividend. We wish we were able to be more definite at this time but we feel that taking a snap shot of our shareholder base before the closing of the Merger Transaction is the best way for us to preserve a potential stock dividend for JUPITER shareholders."

ABOUT JUPITER GLOBAL HOLDINGS, CORP.

JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp. is a holding company with interests and developments in a diverse number of growing industries. JUPITER plans to achieve a leadership position through the building of a synergistic network of innovative, profitable and global businesses.

CAUTIONARY STATEMENT REGARDING FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS

The Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 (the "PLSLRA") provides a "safe harbor" for forward-looking statements so long as those statements are identified as forward-looking and are accompanied by meaningful cautionary statements identifying important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in such statements. Statements contained herein that are not based on historical fact , as well as other statements including words such as "anticipate," "believe," "plan," "estimate," "expect," "intend," "will," "could" and other similar expressions, constitute forward-looking statements under the PSLRA. Jupiter intends that such forward-looking statements be subject to the safe harbor created thereby. Such forward-looking statements are based on current assumptions but involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause Jupiter actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from current expectations. These risks include economic, competitive, governmental, technological and other factors discussed in Jupiter annual, quarterly and other periodic public filings on record with the Securities and Exchange Commission which can be viewed free of charge on its website at http://www.sec.gov.

Please visit our website: www.jupiterglobal.net For more information please contact: JUPITER Global Shareholder Services Phone: 1.800.963.6532 Email Address: Contact via http://www.marketwire.com/mw/emailprcntct?id=BD21F5A3ABB4B5F5

SOURCE: JUPITER Global Holdings, Corp.

http://www.jupiterglobal.net
Copyright 2006 Market Wire, All rights reserved.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
same, you go ahead and pump this rediculous pr. Many of us can read exactly what it says and it says NOTHING. It is an attempt to legally mislead people. Nothing more. Otherwise, why didn't they come out and say "we are going to do this' and not all the maybes, potentil, should, etc. A real POS.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
hilarious PR! LOL, a "record date" on a maybe-divvy...
 
Posted by sportsguy on :
 
Some things never change with this company!
 
Posted by buterjames on :
 
...hella funny, only in america!!

this one almost tops RSHN infamous myspace pr, oh my stomach hurts!!!
 
Posted by ATL8ball on :
 
Alllmost !!!

What a "talk in a f-ing circle" pile of dog sqeeze was that??

It hurts, Sooooooo Baaaad !!!
 
Posted by SkyistheLimit on :
 
[Cool] Here is the Latest news!!! Out on 05/04/2006 12:25

http://portfolios.abcnews.go.com/quotes?tid=JPHC&tab=news&headline=no&source=Mar ketWire&path=/MarketWire/20060504/0127154.xml

[Wink]
 
Posted by Boss1 on :
 
bad link dude
 
Posted by SkyistheLimit on :
 
Sorry,
Here is a GOOD link!!!

http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060504/0127154.html

[Cool]
 
Posted by Boss1 on :
 
Thanks, that's better. Not sure if that's good, bad or indifferent. Guess we'll have to wait.... again, again,again
 
Posted by SkyistheLimit on :
 
I think it's good.
[Wink]
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
well based on what JPHC has been at, doesnt look like this will ever get to .0006, let alone .001 by the 10th.
So, I guess we're all stuck in it for 2 yrs. Heres to hoping the new company will go up from here!!
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
I was expecting a PR from APOA on this spin-off, since it didn't get released by JPHC before the merger announcement. IMO - Hawkins & Co. worded this in the only way possible - for the benefit of shareholders wanting to know.

If there are shorts (naked or clothed), we'll know soon enough.
 
Posted by same on :
 
My Opinion the CEO

Has to word things at this point very carefully. Myself I think the divedend will happen. I think APO and JPHC are working togeather in a way to counteract the shorts.
I think they know what they are doing and have been given good advice from experienced people. I have not been deceived yet by the CEO and what they have stated their plan was last Feb.

Now I have been on a lot of message boards and it is really fascinateing to me how negative posters are even if it is good news. The frustration should be taken out on the MM's IMO that is where the problem is.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
"What started off as a joke, has turned into a disaster!" - Rocky III
 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
Same, I own shares of this pos and if I can get out without losing my azz I will. If I want to bash this pos I will, if I want to heap praise on this pos I will because I am a shareholder. What they pulled here affected me and my family and I will never forget who did it and why. Have a nice evening. TMAN...
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
same here Tman --- a bunch of b.s. nothing more... has anyone actually contacted either JPHC or APOA to see if these will be 100% restricted?

Please visit our website: http://www.jupiterglobal.net
For more information please contact:
JUPITER Global Shareholder Services
Phone: 1.800.963.6532

I'm calling tomorrow and if i don't get any good info i might just visit them at the HQ in Van... not far from here!

IMO this is getting tight! (not good)
 
Posted by Ragedbull777 on :
 
Seems like we're stagnating in the 4 range. Anyone feel we may touch 5 or 6 in the next week?
TIA
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
not today --- to big of awall at 4
 
Posted by Ragedbull777 on :
 
Boy this thread is dead. that rhymed.
 
Posted by steef on :
 
APO Health, Inc. Declares a Stock Dividend for All Shareholders of Record as of Close of Business May 10, 2006
Friday May 5, 4:45 pm ET

OCEANSIDE, NY--(MARKET WIRE)--May 5, 2006 -- APO Health, Inc. ("APO" or the "Company") (OTC BB:APOA.OB - News) today announces that the board of directors of APO have approved that all shareholders of record on close of business Eastern Daylight Time, May 10, 2006 (the "Record Date") will receive a restricted common stock dividend ("stock dividend") on a prorated basis of between a range, which is subject to change, of 3 for 1 common share owned and 10 for 1 common share owned.

ADVERTISEMENT
The final ratio of the stock dividend will be determined shortly and an announcement will be made accordingly. A subsequent notification to the shareholders of the pay date of the stock dividend will be made after the record date.

Jan Stahl, CEO of APO, commented: "We are pleased to be able to provide a stock dividend to our shareholders; this is an exciting time for APO and we feel this stock dividend is a great reward for our current shareholders."

ABOUT APO HEALTH, INC.

APO Health, Inc., a Nevada corporation, through its subsidiary distributes medical, dental and health and beauty aid products to dental and medical professionals and wholesalers throughout the United States.

CAUTIONARY STATEMENT REGARDING FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS

The Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 (the "PLSLRA") provides a "safe harbor" for forward-looking statements so long as those statements are identified as forward looking and are accompanied by meaningful cautionary statements identifying important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in such statements.

Statements contained herein that are not based on historical fact, as well as other statements including words such as "anticipate," "believe," "plan," "estimate," "expect," "intend," "will," "could" and other similar expressions, constitute forward-looking statements under the PSLRA. APO intends that such forward-looking statements be subject to the safe harbor created thereby. Such forward-looking statements are based on current assumptions but involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause APO actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from current expectations. These risks include economic, competitive, governmental, technological and other factors discussed in APO annual, quarterly and other periodic public filings on record with the Securities and Exchange Commission which can be viewed free of charge on its website at http://www.sec.gov.


Contact:

For more APO information please contact
 
Posted by daytrader1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BigGuy133:
I would definately hold JPHC for 2 years at an approx. 300% gain. You find me another stock that will return the same results in that amount of time.

take your money whatever is left here, buy any other stock say for example, ndol, mid day at 1.2-1.25, sell t next day for around 1.34-1.35. do dat till day comes when they finalize deal of 2.17. hold on to it and within not more than a month, hopefully, you should get cleared of all your money. I've been doing that ever since this one crashed, and have made more than 200% already. and btw i had bought this stock at all time high of 0.0014 and sold it at all time low at 0.0004. still havent got off it but am recovering slowly. GLTY!
 
Posted by Chad on :
 
3 more days left....hope it hits .0005 before then. lol
very interested to see exactly what the conversion ends up being.
im not sure what the 20 day avg is, maybe .01?
 
Posted by Ragedbull777 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by PCola77:
I'm actualyl considering throwing $2K more at this today if I can get it at .0002.

Would double my position to 20mil shares and bring my average down to .0006 from .001. $2K for a slim chance at $50K is something I'm willing to do. Maybe that's why I'm not making as much money here as the rest of you seem to be doing [Smile]

Oh well, I'll always be a gambler at heart.

If you're a gambler, get into DDSI. It's a fully reporting subpenny which is rare and had over $3 million in revenues it's last fiscal year. They are releasing it's 10Q in the next week or so and could be a good one. JMHO.
GLTU and do your DD.
 
Posted by Ragedbull777 on :
 
OT: DDSI vs INSQ

DDSI
2005 Revenues: 3,335,631
Current Price Per Share: $0.0003
Revenues per share: .00045
Revenues are 50% greater than current PPS

INSQ
2005 Revenues: 2,420,000
Current Price Per Share: $0.0059
Revenues per share: .000489
Revenues are 1/12 of current PPS

Potential is very good for DDSI. JMHO [Smile]
 
Posted by Ragedbull777 on :
 
Wow, we touched 5 this morning.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
Who is still in this? Quetion to all... is it possible to call anyone to find out further info as to restricted shares and the actual time line? I've never encountered this kind of a situation... so if any one knows please tell me or PM me thanks!

I'm still holding!!! Dunno for how long... today might be the day!
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Is this POS still trading?
 
Posted by LARSON on :
 
Don't know why it just stopped.
I am still in this one.

Any others?

L.
 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Unfortunately, I'm still in this thing. Hoping it might do something by Friday. At least I'm hoping to take a little less of a hit. Repo, you got in and out and in and out. Did you move this somewhere that got back the losses? I think you were right to get out when you did.

Look back on this thread, I think there have been phone numbers listed, but I don't know what page.
 
Posted by LARSON on :
 
Amswap, you mentioned Friday, i think close of business Wednesday May 10th is the deadline to get out if you do not want to sit with restricted shares.

I will double check with the news on pink sheets.

L.
 
Posted by eagleye on :
 
JPHC starting to move up
 
Posted by eagleye on :
 
only 3 bid's left
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
PGPM made up 5x my losses. If opportunity knocks, dump this POS and move... never fall in love with a stock.
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
someone bought 39 million????
 
Posted by db on :
 
printing alot of .0004 fast
 
Posted by db on :
 
yea scottrade shows a 39 mill buy -- maybe a MM
 
Posted by moosehead9nc on :
 
huge blocks are going through
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
It's alive, it's alive!

2 left at .0004.

Is this the run we've all (okay, probably me and like one otehr uy still left...) been waiting for???
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
If it hits .0008 or higher, I'll say well done PCola.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
Me to, I baled already. I hope for you guys it runs up and you make out a lot better than I did
 
Posted by db on :
 
up goes frazier, up goes frazier - lol
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
[Smile] That would be like winning the lottery for me. I have long since written this one off as a "let's see what I have in 2 years after the restriction runs out". Honestly, I may not even sell if it gets me back in the black. (.001)

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
If it hits .0008 or higher, I'll say well done PCola.


 
Posted by tmanfromtexas on :
 
I am out. TMAN...
 
Posted by jaztile1 on :
 
shakers just put out a buy alert
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Shakers can't have my shares!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Smile]
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Shakerzz lost his mind. Pcola, sell into the rally.. if there is one.
 
Posted by db on :
 
NITE and UBSS need to get out of the way let this thing roll - I doubt that it is but,,, if this is the beginning of a short squeeze this could be fun
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Nah, it's cool. Like I said, I'm holding this one through the merger most likely. Don't see any chance of it going up to .001 again without some crazy news release.


quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
Shakerzz lost his mind. Pcola, sell into the rally.. if there is one.


 
Posted by amswap on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LARSON:
Amswap, you mentioned Friday, i think close of business Wednesday May 10th is the deadline to get out if you do not want to sit with restricted shares.

I will double check with the news on pink sheets.

L.

Wasn't me Larson. I want this thing to go up a little so I take less of a hit, but I don't want to get the worthless restricted shares. I want out, only hoping it will go up enough to take less of a loss.
 
Posted by eagleye on :
 
Im with ya PCola77
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
This POS is as bad as PAIM
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
No way man, it's trading at 4x PAIM's price [Smile]

By the way, I'm not advocating anyone buy into this, and I'm not claiming this is some great stock. All I know is I'm staying in it and taking a chance that the stock will be worth significantly more in the future.

quote:
Originally posted by dkinvest:
This POS is as bad as PAIM


 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
For anyone interested, there have been 128 trades in the last hour+ and 127 of them are buys. 360million+ shares of buys and under 3million of sells.
 
Posted by db on :
 
I'm here for the long haul good or bad,willing to take the risk also the 10th may not be the ex date there should be a pr stating when the last day to buy and sell.
 
Posted by LARSON on :
 
PCola77,

I am still sitting on 2 mill shares....why ????....no clue....at this point it's like whatever!......If price is right i would get out in next hour....otherwise it will be another lesson for me on the pinks!

Ok , will now totally embarass myself and ask this- yes i have L2 with Microcapelite....but how EXACTLY do you tell which are buys and sells? Is it adding the numbers up after the arrow ticks up and down?

L.
 
Posted by LARSON on :
 
Damn, that was wishful thinking...Correction...4 mill SHARES!!!!

L.
 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
well we didn't see any short squeeze
 
Posted by TickTrader on :
 
still here
 
Posted by bikerider on :
 
i'm in too, 0.001+ or going all the way
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
Anyone think that there is a chance that JPHC might back out of the merger????
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
It's considered a buy if the trade is at the ask, and a sell if the trade is at the bid.

For example, if the bid is .0003 and the ask is .0004, every time you see a trade at .0004 it's a "buy" because the person had to increase the bid to get the trade to go through. If a trde goes through at .0003 it's because someone "sold" by moving their ask to the bid.

make sense?

And I'm holding 10Mil shares, so don't feel bad [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by LARSON:
PCola77,

I am still sitting on 2 mill shares....why ????....no clue....at this point it's like whatever!......If price is right i would get out in next hour....otherwise it will be another lesson for me on the pinks!

Ok , will now totally embarass myself and ask this- yes i have L2 with Microcapelite....but how EXACTLY do you tell which are buys and sells? Is it adding the numbers up after the arrow ticks up and down?

L.


 
Posted by Hannibull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hannibull:
well we didn't see any short squeeze

nevermind I thought today was the last day [Smile]
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
Any one see the 10-Q report just put out by APOA?
 
Posted by Ragedbull777 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Karma Earl:
Any one see the 10-Q report just put out by APOA?

No, what did it say?
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
Here's a link to the report.

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/060509/apoa.ob10-q.html
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
What did it say???? Summarize.
 
Posted by ohio_trader on :
 
9-May-2006

Quarterly Report


ITEM 2. MANAGEMENT'S DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS OF FINANCIAL CONDITION AND RESULTS OF OPERATIONS.
FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS

This quarterly report on Form 10-Q contains forward-looking statements. All statements other than statements of historical fact made in this annual report are forward looking. In particular, the statements herein regarding industry prospects and future results of operations or financial position are forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements reflect management's current expectations and are inherently uncertain. The Company 's actual results may differ significantly from management's expectations.

RESULTS OF OPERATIONS

Revenue for the six months ended March 31, 2006 was $3,994,968, a decrease of $4,611,612, or 53.6%, from $8,606,580 for the six months ended March 31, 2005. The decrease in revenue has been categorized into two areas. First, sales in 2005 to customers that were either no longer in business in 2006 or who were no longer buying from the Company and are using alternative sources decreased by approximately $1,500,000. The Company purchased many different products which were imported from both Canada and Europe. In fiscal 2006, the Company reduced the amount of imports from those areas as the United States dollar decreased in value against the Canadian dollar, British pound and the Euro, and also the loss of major suppliers resulted in a reduction of sales of approximatley $3,000,000.

Cost of revenue for the six months ended March 31, 2006 was $3,348,637, a decrease of $4,420,753, or 56.9%, from $7,769,390 for the six months ended March 31, 2005. The decrease in cost of sales is approximately the same as the percentage in revenue. The gross profit percentage for the six months ended March 31, 2006 was 16.2% compared to 9.7% for the six months ended March 31, 2005. Wholesale revenue accounted for approximately 75% of total revenue for the six months ended March 31, 2005 and had a gross profit of approximately 6%. Retail sales during the same period accounted for 25% of the total revenue and had a gross profit of approximately 20-20%.For the six months ended March 31, 2006 wholesale revenue accounted for approximately 60% of total revenue with a gross profit of approximately 7.5% and retail sales accounted for 40% of the total revenue with a gross profit of approximately 25-30%. These factors accounted for the overall increase in gross profit percentage.

Selling expenses for the six months ended March 31, 2006 were $117,188, a decrease of $95,741 from the six months ended March 31, 2005. Shipping costs decreased by $53,970 and commissions decreased by $28,036 for the quarter ended March 31, 2006 due to the decrease in revenue to wholesale customers. Advertising and related costs declined by approximately $8,000 as the Company reduced its mailing of advertising materials. There were minor increases and decreases in other selling expenses with an overall decrease which was directly related to the decrease in revenue.

General and administrative expenses for the six months ended March 31, 2006 were $692,348, a decrease of $104,052 from $796,400 for the six months ended March 31, 2005. Total compensation, including payroll taxes and employee benefits increased by $6,843. The increase in compensation reflects an accrual of salaries that had been reduced during the period to preserve cash flow. Consulting fees decreased by $35,000 to $5,000 in the period ended March 31, 2006. For the period ended March 31, 2005 consulting expense represented the balance of a one year contract that expired in January 2005. The Company reduced its allowance for bad debts by $20,000 in the period ended March 31, 2005 after writing off $151,214 of uncollectible receivables. There was no comparable cost in 2005. Professional fees for the six months ended March 31, 2006 were $181,173, an increase of $83,134 over the six months ended March 31, 2005. The entire amount of the increase is attributed to legal fees incurred in the lawsuits with Proctor & Gamble and Alcoa.

Interest expense for the six months ended March 31, 2006 was $17,514, a decrease of $10,040 from the six month period ended March 31, 2005. The decrease in interest expense is due to a reduction of the credit facility with Rosenthal & Rosenthal, Inc which reduced the monthly minimum interest expense.

LIQUIDITY AND FINANCIAL CONDITION

As of March 31, 2006, the Company had a working capital deficit of $318,878, a decrease of $172,816 from the working capital at September 30, 2005. The Company 's losses from continuing operations of $180,719 for the six months ended March 31, 2006 was funded by the decrease in working capital and increase in accounts payable and accrued expenses of $225,378. At March 31, 2006 the APO had available a $300,000 credit facility with Rosenthal & Rosenthal, Inc., of which $112,915 was outstanding at March 31, 2006 (see Note 4 to the accompanying financial statements). The credit facility is collateralized by all of APO's assets and is personally guaranteed by Dr. Jan Stahl, Chief Executive Officer of the Company. Under terms of the credit facility, the lender may call the loan if APO is in violation of certain restrictive covenants. At March 31, 2006, APO is in violation of its net worth and working capital covenants. Rosenthal & Rosenthal has not waived the violations, and accordingly, the entire amount of the obligation is callable. The credit facility matured on October 31, 2005 and was extended through December 31, 2005 under substantially the same terms as the original agreement. APO and the lender have agreed to continue the credit facility on a month to month basis through May 31, 2006.

OFF-BALANCE SHEET ARRANGEMENTS

The Company does not have any off-balance sheet arrangements that are likely to have a current or future effect on the Company's financial condition, revenues or expenses, results of operations or capital resources.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Revenue for the six months ended March 31, 2006 was $3,994,968, a decrease of $4,611,612, or 53.6%, from $8,606,580 for the six months ended March 31, 2005.


Goodnight Irene!
 
Posted by db on :
 
This is how it's looking to me:

1) today is record day , last day to buy or sell

2) stay and you will get the valuation of .005

3) shares will be restricted at least a year

4) there is no massive short squeeze coming today

5) APOA business history sucks

6) APOA is restructuring

7) possible, maybe, could be, divy for share holders in future

8) last day for JPHC to pull out of deal

9) hod will be .0004

10) MM's always win

11) this whole ordeal blew goats


I will probley sell some and keep some just to see what happens good luck to everyone who is involved with this!
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
pull out JPHC, pull out!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
who's going down with the ship?
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
this is like in Top Gun!!! JPHC is in a flat spin who is going to be the Goose and break there neck by getting out to late? lol (not bashing just trying to laugh!!)
 
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Posted by PCola77 on :
 
That would be me.

And the next line from naked gun seems appropriate for this situation..
"I've been swimming in raw sewage. I LOVE IT!"

quote:
Originally posted by letitrideboy:
who's going down with the ship?


 
Posted by wildweb on :
 
I am still holding....and will continue to hold....I have lost more on dumber things, and gained more on a bigger risk....I am staying here with the ship.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
DOWN GOES FRAZIER DOWN GOES FRAZIER!
 
Posted by Skyman on :
 
Goose went first.
 
Posted by letitrideboy on :
 
true, but had they both punched out sooner they would have probably lived!!....Mav got lucky....I'm not that lucky
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
Eventually Frazier got back up though... We'll see is JPHC does the same [Smile]

quote:
Originally posted by Repoman75:
DOWN GOES FRAZIER DOWN GOES FRAZIER!


 
Posted by db on :
 
Is today the last trading day????
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 
Safe for work... sound clip.

http://www.wavsource.com/snds_2006-05-03_497158035631104/sports/down_goes_frazie r_x.wav

[ May 10, 2006, 12:43: Message edited by: Repoman75 ]
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
It would appear the shorts have covered as the price is doing nothing
 
Posted by ATL8ball on :
 
I am OUTA this POS...* 3.58 PM

CYA
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
Any one know what the final price will be when we get converted? I would have thought we would have seen a press release or something towards the end of day
 
Posted by scfraser1 on :
 
How much more time do we have on this thing?? Will tomorrow be the last day?
 
Posted by AgentGPF on :
 
Perhaps, it was claimed they would attempt to finish this by the 10th. Often though this takes a very long time to get going.
 
Posted by JARW on :
 
I'm guessing the deal hasn't gone through yet... since it's still trading!!!! 50 million already!
 
Posted by PCola77 on :
 
I was just about to post the same thing JARW. Wonder if they'll release a PR with final info BEFORE the required sell date.
 
Posted by dkinvest on :
 
bid 0002
ask 0003

wish I had $300, would buy a million and go into the merger, just for sh*ts & grins.
 
Posted by Repoman75 on :
 

 
Posted by amswap on :
 
Repo, you didn't get back in this thing did you?
 
Posted by Karma Earl on :
 
This was released after the bell. Not sure if it includes us.

Paivis, Corp. (Formerly Known as APO Health, Inc.) Announces May 12, 2006 as Pay Date for All Shareholders Entitled to Receive Stock Dividend; Final Ratio for Dividend Set at 10 for 1 Common Share Owned
Thursday May 11, 5:29 pm ET


OCEANSIDE, NY--(MARKET WIRE)--May 11, 2006 -- Paivis, Corp. (formerly known as APO Health, Inc.) ("APO" or the "Company") (OTC BB:APOA.OB - News) today provides notice to shareholders that May 12, 2006 will be the date the Company will execute the payment of the recently declared restricted common stock dividend. The final ratio for the dividend has been set at on a prorated basis of 10 for 1 common share owned.
ADVERTISEMENT


All shareholders of record as of the May 10, 2006 record date are entitled to receive the dividend.

ABOUT PAIVIS, CORP. (FORMERLY KNOWN AS APO HEALTH, INC.)

Paivis, Corp. (formerly known as APO Health, Inc.), a Nevada corporation, through its subsidiary distributes medical, dental and health and beauty aid products to dental and medical professionals and wholesalers throughout the United States.
 
Posted by DQ. on :
 
Get um' while you can. Have made lots of money with this stock. Can ALWAYS run to .008 on any day. Valuation is .005. I'd say load up.
 
Posted by SkyistheLimit on :
 
[Smile] I have started a new thread for JPHC.
It is called JPHC(new).
You can access it by going to the following link:

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/8/ t/021504.html

Thanks [Wink]
 


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