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Posted by: bioz2 In reply to: None Date:1/26/2006 5:17:00 PM Post #of 212935
Just watched the DVD
I expected it to be dufferent and thought it would discuss more of the financial standpoint, it was basic and covered clips from their shows in various settings. Their studio looks great, appears very new and up to date and Frank comments on a few things but not very lengthy. But al least they held their word of sending the DVD
Posted by: ricoone In reply to: bioz2 who wrote msg# 212879 Date:1/26/2006 5:21:51 PM Post #of 212935
How long is the dvd ? TIA
Posted by: bioz2 In reply to: ricoone who wrote msg# 212880 Date:1/26/2006 5:25:51 PM Post #of 212935
length of dvd is just under 14 min
Posted by: bioz2 In reply to: None Date:1/26/2006 6:07:38 PM Post #of 212936
I also want to add the filming is professional and the shows look interesting esp the one with jack e jett and their news show as well. A number of hot ladies are on there, well now that i think of it, i hope they were chicks. ha. It would have been ideal if it was at least 30 min and got into specifics, but im not sure of the original scope of the DVD to begin with
Posted by: bioz2 In reply to: Sputnik who wrote msg# 212886 Date:1/26/2006 5:51:13 PM Post #of 212936
im in ny
Posted by: Sputnik In reply to: bioz2 who wrote msg# 212888 Date:1/26/2006 6:09:51 PM Post #of 212936
That's good to hear, but the DVD was supposed to answer investors questions and concerns. There was supposed to be some meat and potatoes, like financials and sub numbers. None of that?
Posted by: bioz2 In reply to: Sputnik who wrote msg# 212889 Date:1/26/2006 6:18:26 PM Post #of 212936
None of that answered. As it was narrated and skipped around show to show, It showed clips of Frank seated answering questions but he wasnt specific, there was one part mentioned about the stock and all he said was that the stock is trading low because of this.. pointing to all the high tech equipment, which i must say does look great, but not sure if thats the answer. They also quickly go over the Gay Games soon to be arriving. Overall the DvD highlights their shows, which certainly would appear to capture the interest of many as they do look well put together.
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Posted by: bioz2 In reply to: None Date:1/26/2006 6:54:53 PM Post #of 212944
OK Franks words throughout the entire DVD for those who didnt see it yet
When we came and bought the studio, we did it all. Taking a television studio and making it gay is absolutely a pleasure that few ppl experience, it allows u to create and be gay.
The gay community is a revolving communtiy and its good about gay television and we can show them the heroes of yesterday
The carriage is growing and ppl are accepting it, they like the shows and what we are doing
We are not a television station to be watched 24 hrs a day we are a compliment to your television veiwing
Our job is to give u a gay fix by live television, giving u sports, wich goes into the gay games promotion
Some of the sharholders want to know why the stock is down its because of spending money buying all of this( cameras, studio etc), which is more money than we take in.
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quote:Originally posted by kaos: this was on the investers page anyone know anything about this??????
1/10/2006 - The Financial Times 1/10/06 www.ft.com
Couldn't find anything related to Q. Something else?
The toxic nano article is interesting......
Kaos, the article that's posted was on the website that day... I guess they don't keep stuff up for 2 weeks like qtn's site...
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i was also tring to search back but no articles came up....so why would this be on the q investors page....anyone else remember seeing anything????
1/10/2006 - The Financial Times 1/10/06 www.ft.com
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quote:Originally posted by kaos: i was also tring to search back but no articles came up....so why would this be on the q investors page....anyone else remember seeing anything????
1/10/2006 - The Financial Times 1/10/06 www.ft.com
Kaos...its the article... the date for the article...
The article that's immediately below the announcement.
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Posted on IHUB-I am trying to find out who told this to robertmic
Posted by: robertmic71 In reply to: None Date:1/26/2006 8:06:14 PM Post #of 212979
Ok people, I was told that the website was being rebuilt to include an entire section on financials. I was also told that Triangle Multi-Media will NOW be included on the website to prove the relationship. I know they were interested in putting up the current share structure and relevant changes as they occur, but I don't know if that will happen right away. I would be pleased to see company financials on the website and would hope that an updated audit would soon follow. I believe that no financial info was put on a DVD because it would be more available to the general public (current and potential investors)on their website. Mark my post, if you have to and REMEMBER it.
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quote:Originally posted by Rich735: Posted on IHUB-I am trying to find out who told this to robertmic
Posted by: robertmic71 In reply to: None Date:1/26/2006 8:06:14 PM Post #of 212979
Ok people, I was told that the website was being rebuilt to include an entire section on financials. I was also told that Triangle Multi-Media will NOW be included on the website to prove the relationship. I know they were interested in putting up the current share structure and relevant changes as they occur, but I don't know if that will happen right away. I would be pleased to see company financials on the website and would hope that an updated audit would soon follow. I believe that no financial info was put on a DVD because it would be more available to the general public (current and potential investors)on their website. Mark my post, if you have to and REMEMBER it.
i saw that too...
doc mentioned something about the site too
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Posted by: skunksyard In reply to: zandant who wrote msg# 212969 Date:1/26/2006 8:19:19 PM Post #of 212989
well there is one thing that comes to mind to me immediately....he may not be ready to announce anything about now listen to what I am going to say.......are you listening??????
TRIANGLE MULTIMEDIA
that is QBID and all other companies are under that umbrella
QTN LBS NTI Native American Indian Channel*
*now, let me add something here. I can't wait for this. This one is going to be fun to dd. I'll be all around those websites hunting down info because of the very same reasons I did with QTN.....product possibility/enduser possibilty/different types of folks/locations/competition/economics/program content
just for starters....that one is going to be fun to dd too. God think how many posts I'll be putting out then lol! ----------------------
WOAH WOAH... I saw the NAI Channel mentioned but I thought it was some joke someone came up with. Is that true??
Is there really a NAI Channel coming?
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And when's the last time you've heard about Native American topics in the news...
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quote:Originally posted by Rich735: Posted on IHUB-I am trying to find out who told this to robertmic
Posted by: robertmic71 In reply to: None Date:1/26/2006 8:06:14 PM Post #of 212979
Ok people, I was told that the website was being rebuilt to include an entire section on financials. I was also told that Triangle Multi-Media will NOW be included on the website to prove the relationship. I know they were interested in putting up the current share structure and relevant changes as they occur, but I don't know if that will happen right away. I would be pleased to see company financials on the website and would hope that an updated audit would soon follow. I believe that no financial info was put on a DVD because it would be more available to the general public (current and potential investors)on their website. Mark my post, if you have to and REMEMBER it.
i saw that too...
doc mentioned something about the site too
I went back to the 9/15/05 letter to shareholders and found 2 interesting paragraphs. First the one about the DVD:
“It is my intention to put all of this information on a DVD that will be available in the near future. I believe that education and information about Q Television Network’s activities and progress will be key in helping to raise the stock price and increase overall awareness of Q Television Network.”
Yes, it took only 4 months to accomplish that. But, Frank DID deliver on the DVD. Well yeeesssss, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FINANCIALS!!!!!
Second paragraph below the one quoted above:
“We will begin very shortly with a new page on the website outlining our financials, specific breakdowns of deals we have put into place and all necessary information the shareholders should view. This will outline our accomplishments and will aide you in mapping our future plans of becoming the most powerful GLBT network in the world.”
Maybe all this talk about the new web site is TRUE? A financials page that can easily be updated would be wonderful!
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Welcome to the board. one requirement to be here is you need some rubber boots some days to put up with a bit of crap.
most here are good as you have probably figured out. please feel free to share in the discussions.
Rod
quote:Originally posted by Nethawk2003: First Post here. Long term holder, have watched this board for months and finally registerd. Look forward to talking with you guys and gals. Nethawk
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quote:Originally posted by Jennifercd10: Now, that would be fast! Post it in the AM in Calif. and its delivered in Ohio in the PM. We are sure getting a lot with the new 39 cent stamps!
you do know most USPS mail goes through fedex now right? thats why
Now that's funny. USPS mail maybe carried by FedEx, er FedUp, planes or trucks but do you think it will get the fastest mode while FedUp stuff sits, I think not.
In fact: Much of the packages sent by FedUp, UPS and DHL are DELIVERED BY USPS. Check it out.
LMAO
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Ummm considering USPS pays fedex billions of dollars a year to *SHIP* their packages. Did i say that fedex delivers USPS packages, noooooo i said that "most USPS mail goes through fedex", which would imply FEDEX ships the packages. But apparently you need me to spell things out for you in lamens terms, or should i draw you a picture so maybe you could understand a little better.
No where did i say Fedex "DELIVERS" USPS packages, get your facts strait, or is this yet another attempt by you to distort information to suit your own malicious means for either self amusement or selfish motives.
Good day.
I did not say "Fedex "DELIVERS" USPS packages" EITHER. In fact it was the other way around. I said FedUp packages were DELIVERED BY USPS.
In fact: Much of the packages sent by FedUp, UPS and DHL are DELIVERED BY USPS. Check it out.
Still LMAO .
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quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: Welcome to the board. one requirement to be here is you need some rubber boots some days to put up with a bit of crap.
most here are good as you have probably figured out. please feel free to share in the discussions.
Rod
quote:Originally posted by Nethawk2003: First Post here. Long term holder, have watched this board for months and finally registerd. Look forward to talking with you guys and gals. Nethawk
Yeah, this guy Penny-Trader frequently has PMS outbreaks... I don't really understand it... but, shhhh... don't let him know that we know... he doesn't like to talk about it...
AND, Monopoly Money, don't even get me started on that character...
The only trustworthy cat is G-Invest, but he rarely shows his face around these parts anymore.
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I wanted to add that I was kidding before people started getting angry.
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Not for nothing, because I, probably like many others feel impatient (even after holding into my 3rd/4th year now). Especially the longs & the ones who came in on the high side too. But the truth is this feels like a rubber band about to snap. a) either snap & break apart; or b) snap and bring us further than before.
Frank is most definitely outspoken and driven. So, in his nature in that role, he probably speaks too much for his own good. One thing that comes to mind is things take time. He may blurt out things like that without thinking it out.
...eg: in my industry things can go a few ways. One: A small project is planned for, people put things together and we provide the service. (2-3 days total) Two: A medium size project is planned, I work a little harder, make more demands from production & things get done. Three: A huge project is planned. a) it takes discovery with all parties for the desired goals, planning and cost analysis - many people & many questions and lots of time pricing it. b)If OK, agreements are reached & implementation begins - usually weeks or months after initial contact. c) testing for desired output continues until final approval. More weeks of work. d) Finally, once all systems are go, BANG! full fledged production. Many systems a go and away we go (then billing occurs which is the real happy time)
Some of these things Frank blurts out must take tremendous amounts of time & resources to make it happen (The DVD for one. He probably blurted it out WAY before it was ready to produce, copy & mail. Imagine if this was the first time anyone including his staff heard of it. They may have been wincing in their chairs.) Sure, manking money & establishing the station are his goals (as well as our goals too) Some projects are the small type, others the medium. But overall, it's the big one we ALL want to see.
I think patience will prevail as long as Frank learns some wisdom (which may be the case since there has been much quiet from Mgmt/Frank lately)
Anyway, this is more than I wanted to input, just some logic I am trying to apply. GLTA! Can't get much lower (I hope)
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Frank has stated in the past the desire to do so.
it is also mentioned in the lawsuit from Firestone about a grant from the governement for start up funds for this station.
Rod
quote:Originally posted by mjm2005: Posted by: skunksyard In reply to: zandant who wrote msg# 212969 Date:1/26/2006 8:19:19 PM Post #of 212989
well there is one thing that comes to mind to me immediately....he may not be ready to announce anything about now listen to what I am going to say.......are you listening??????
TRIANGLE MULTIMEDIA
that is QBID and all other companies are under that umbrella
QTN LBS NTI Native American Indian Channel*
*now, let me add something here. I can't wait for this. This one is going to be fun to dd. I'll be all around those websites hunting down info because of the very same reasons I did with QTN.....product possibility/enduser possibilty/different types of folks/locations/competition/economics/program content
just for starters....that one is going to be fun to dd too. God think how many posts I'll be putting out then lol! ----------------------
WOAH WOAH... I saw the NAI Channel mentioned but I thought it was some joke someone came up with. Is that true??
Is there really a NAI Channel coming?
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i was on a road tour since last week. im back for a few days but on tour again on the 1st and 2nd.
and of course i work the evening shift from noon till 10 pm 4 days a week.
so i play a lot of catch up in the evenings.
it was easy tonight though every time is saw fedex, ups or usps i skipped the post lol no disrespect but that much time should never be waisted arguing with that individual.
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quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: ... one requirement to be here is you need some rubber boots some days to put up with a bit of crap.
Now I understand why I get so much crap on me ... I haven't been wearing my boots.
Good one, Rod. You always tell it like it is.
Where ya been lately ... traveling again, or just working hard?
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quote:Originally posted by mjm2005: 2 million native americans...sheesh...
I wouldn't think that would be enough...
And when's the last time you've heard about Native American topics in the news...
I'm going to attribute that remark to your youth. It's a big country with lots of markets to serve.
Here in AZ we hear Native American news topics every day.
AZ's only Native American news reporter, Mary Kim Titla, just left a lucrative network position to start up a news service for Native Americans.
Small, narrowly defined markets don't have many potential subscribers. However very specific marketing will draw high numbers within that group because it is so focused.
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quote:Originally posted by kaos: this was on the investers page anyone know anything about this??????
1/10/2006 - The Financial Times 1/10/06 www.ft.com
this is the article kaos...
The Financial Times.....
1/10/2006 - The Financial Times 1/10/06 Main page content: Gay cable TV is in the pink By Joshua Chaffin Published: January 9 2006 18:46 | Last updated: January 9 2006 18:46
When Sumner Redstone, chairman of Viacom, endorsed the notion of a gay and lesbian cable television network, viewers soon got Logo. With the backing of Viacom’s MTV Networks, the largest and most powerful collection of channels in the cable universe, it was beamed into millions of homes around the US.
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An unexpected beneficiary of Mr Redstone’s pronouncement two years ago was Frank Olsen, a little-known broadcasting entrepreneur from Seattle. For more than a decade, Mr Olsen had been toiling to start his own gay cable network. Despite spending $12m from his own pocket, there was not much interest until Mr Redstone chimed in.
“You would be amazed how many people listen when Sumner Redstone speaks,” Mr Olsen recalls. “The whole thing changed.”
Indeed, after launching last July, Mr Olsen’s network, Q Television, is now emerging from the muddle of independent cable networks desperately seeking distribution. Q is available in over 3m homes, and is expecting to lock up distribution deals for 15m to 20m more by the end of this year.
A turning point came in November, when Time Warner Cable, one of the largest operators, awarded Q a so-called “hunting licence”, which has allowed the network to approach its 30 regional divisions around the country to seek distribution. So far, that has brought Q to such diverse markets as Manhattan, Houston and – as of this month – Lincoln, Nebraska.
“I think probably even the Q TV people were surprised they got such a nice response here,” says Beth Scarborough, the president of Time Warner Cable in Lincoln.
One could point out that Mr Olsen, who has dubbed himself the “king of gay media”, had been working on Q for more than three decades. After selling the family bakery, Mr Olsen used the windfall to buy radio stations in the early 1970s. In addition to rock and roll, and news and talk radio, Mr Olsen also began to run gay programming.
The shows were reasonably popular, he claims, even though the broader environment was not hospitable. “The advertisers were always worried about how many customers they would lose for every one they attracted,” says Mr Olsen.
A lot has changed since then. The mainstream media is now full of gay characters and gay programming, from television’s Queer Eye for the Straight Guy and Will and Grace to the film Brokeback Mountain, a cowboy love story that has become an unlikely Oscar front-runner. Companies such as Volkswagen have launched advertising campaigns specifically geared toward gay and lesbian customers.
The economics of cable have also evolved. As the industry matures, operators are looking for niche networks that can add incremental subscribers who might later be enticed to buy add-on services, such as internet connections.
“Cable operators see themselves as supermarkets, and they have to stock their shelves for everyone,” explains Carol Hinnant, vice-president of sales and marketing.
Rather than shooting for a broad audience, Q is only hoping to sign up 1 to 2 per cent of the households in which it is available. Unlike Logo, it is not available as part of a basic cable package. Instead, viewers must request it for $7.95 per month, as they would HBO. “It’s very important that we be invited into the home,” Mr Olsen says.
While it does not offer pornography, that distinction allows Q to be more risqué in its approach than Logo, which Mr Olsen dismisses as “a little vanilla”.
A third gay network, Here, also launched last year, selling its programming in a video-on-demand format.
While gaining access to the New York and San Francisco markets was a milestone for Q, some of its best success has come in smaller markets, such as Portland, Maine, which has never been known for having a high gay population.
Far from being surprised, Mr Olsen notes that more than 60 per cent of his target audience lives in rural areas. Q is all the more appealing to them because its coverage can link them to Gay Pride parades in San Francisco they might not otherwise attend. “We can be a bridge,” he says.
As it enters new markets, Q has also relied on local gay and lesbian networks and grass-roots marketing to try to reach its modest subscription goal.
In November, when it launched its service in the university town of Syracuse, New York, for example, the company threw a party at a local gay bar. The event, which coincided with the university’s annual Homecoming Weekend, honoured a Q presenter, Scott Withers, a Syracuse alumnus who had been elected the university’s Homecoming King in 1995.
“What a difference 10 years makes,” the invitations read. “Syracuse’s Homecoming King is now the queen of gay television!”
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Posted by: robertmic71 In reply to: None Date:1/26/2006 8:06:14 PM Post #of 212979
Ok people, I was told that the website was being rebuilt to include an entire section on financials. I was also told that Triangle Multi-Media will NOW be included on the website to prove the relationship. I know they were interested in putting up the current share structure and relevant changes as they occur, but I don't know if that will happen right away. I would be pleased to see company financials on the website and would hope that an updated audit would soon follow. I believe that no financial info was put on a DVD because it would be more available to the general public (current and potential investors)on their website. Mark my post, if you have to and REMEMBER it.
This would be another GREAT thing to accomplish. Something that has been talked about for MONTHS. They need to stop talking about things and get things done. The DVD is good, WAY late, but good to follow through. Now follow thru asap with the financial page. Follow through with an audit, follow thru with more carriage, and a new CFO.
Things could be changing at Q headquarters and hopefully they start acting like a public company with 3,000+ shareholders and 100M+ in assets.
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Multiple reports now of recieval of the DVD. I think i have seen 4 or 5 credibal reports of getting the DVD. So hopefully the number will multiply tommorrow.
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i wont see mine till next week if they send me one it takes a little longer when it has to cross the boarder.
i had my order fill today at 3:24 i placed the order just before open this morning.
im happy but concerned that it fill so fast.
i am not buying the buyback theory anymore.
to many getting filled at .0001, so there is either shares being dumped by Frank or by one of Franks debtors that where paid with shares.
either way im holding.
i have more then trippled my holdings since Doc an monkey visited the Q.
Rod
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quote:Originally posted by mjm2005: 2 million native americans...sheesh...
I wouldn't think that would be enough...
And when's the last time you've heard about Native American topics in the news...
I'm going to attribute that remark to your youth. It's a big country with lots of markets to serve.
Here in AZ we hear Native American news topics every day.
AZ's only Native American news reporter, Mary Kim Titla, just left a lucrative network position to start up a news service for Native Americans.
Small, narrowly defined markets don't have many potential subscribers. However very specific marketing will draw high numbers within that group because it is so focused.
Yes, but a nationwide television network?
Riddle me this... Wouldn't an international network aimed at the GLBT community be a much safer bet?
I don't know... it just seems like an increased cost without as much of a potential that QTN has.
Also, how many subscribers do you think we'd need to make that network profitable?
Also, I'll attribute your opinion to your lack of wordliness.
Prove me wrong. Show me facts.
Bring it on.
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I would imagine if they are doing NAI it wouldn't be a subscription channel like Q is. You start throwing in all the documentaries and such that already exist about Native Americans and their history and you could very well get some market share for that. At least as much as some of the other random ass channels on the cable dial now.
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