quote:Originally posted by GoodFella: Wish I had sold when "bashers" were screaming sell sell. I wish I had listened to "father of two" when this piece of crap was still at 0.0008.
GF And I wish frogs had wings so they wouldn't bump their butts everytime they jumped, but wishing hasn't helped the poor frogs one bit.
So back to reality. You've summarized your current situation very well: YOU made the decision to buy Q and YOU made the decision to hold Q when others said "sell". Too bad you cannot change that, but life seldom allows "do-overs".
Now for the hard part: Whatcha gonna do now? As always, we all have three choices: BUY, SELL or HOLD (right now, I'm concentrating my efforts on SELL or HOLD ).
Not fighting with you, GF. Just trying to clarify the situation, and talking about a subject often helps me understand it better myself.
GL to us all.
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BL, thanks for your deep analysis on my "current" situtation. If it wasn't for you I would have never even thought that I made the decision to buy this stock. I always thought it was maybe you or somebody else in this forum who went into my bank account and bought those shares
Good luck to you too!
GF
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quote:Originally posted by GoodFella: Wish I had sold when "bashers" were screaming sell sell. I wish I had listened to "father of two" when this piece of crap was still at 0.0008.
GF And I wish frogs had wings so they wouldn't bump their butts everytime they jumped, but wishing hasn't helped the poor frogs one bit.
So back to reality. You've summarized your current situation very well: YOU made the decision to buy Q and YOU made the decision to hold Q when others said "sell". Too bad you cannot change that, but life seldom allows "do-overs".
Now for the hard part: Whatcha gonna do now? As always, we all have three choices: BUY, SELL or HOLD (right now, I'm concentrating my efforts on SELL or HOLD ).
Not fighting with you, GF. Just trying to clarify the situation, and talking about a subject often helps me understand it better myself.
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don't know if this has been posted or not--skip with apologies if it has...
this guy gets on all 3 (logo, here, q) networks....
January 05, 2006 A 'vast wasteland': WHY IS GAY TV SO MEDIOCRE?
The same can be said of QTN, owned by Palm Springs-based Triangle Multimedia—and which has only been available as a "premium channel" to New York City cable subscribers for a few weeks. By the way, why is a pay-per-view channel that charges $7.95 airing paid commercials?
From what I’ve been able to see of it, the news on QTN, what little there is—10-minute segments of the rip’n read variety, with little out-of-studio reporting, produced in cooperation with Planet Out, and repeated a couple of times a day—is almost exclusively entertainment-and-celebrity and gossip oriented, with an occasional few seconds thrown in on gay marriage, the only queer issue which QTN appears to think is worthy of more than one or two sentences.
QTN does have lots of talk shows—for primetime viewing, between 7 and midnight, it has nothing else, and they’re frequently repeated. But the guests are, for the most part, show business figures who would have trouble making the D or even E lists, spliced by diet chat and other inanities that don‘t even rise to the level of daytime banter chez Ellen, and both the hosts and their guests are—as Truman Capote (above right) once said of Marlon Brando—so dumb it would make your skin crawl. The half-hour so-called "political" chatshow is hosted by a sun-baked, constantly-hollering lesbian who appears to have trained at the Fox News school of high-decibel screeching: she’s named Chrisanne Eastwood (left), and judging by her questions and comments is clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer—and she says she went to law school, which reminds me of Shakespeare’s famous line, "First, let’s kill all the lawyers."
As the host of what’s billed as QTN’s "avant-garde" chat show, "Queer Edge"—a portly, 50ish gentlemen named Jack E. Jett (right) who thinks wearing one glove and a multi-colored Mohawk and repeatedly climbing on top of his desk makes him avant-garde—said the other day, "You don’t have to be talented to do this show." How right he was. Only occasional glimpses of semi-pulchritudinous go-go boys gyrating on the set provide any relief from the utter mindlessness of these talk shows. And for this garbage we also have to endure commercials?
QTN does have films one might not have seen before on TV—some of them are even interesting and not from Hollywood, with a sprinkling of foreign gay films. Unfortunately, QTN airs all these films only in the daytime or well after midnight—when nearly anyone who has to work for a living is busy either earning or sleeping. Call it Slackers TV?
quote:Originally posted by mjm2005: Posted by: lobogotti In reply to: None Date:2/12/2006 1:32:02 AM Post #of 11847
metroG NewsLines From metroG & our news affiliates ...
Frank Olsen dubbed himself the "King Of Gay Media"
FINANCIAL PROBLEMS PLAGUE 'Q' TELEVISION The QBID Scam Continues ... To The metroG Editor February 12, 2006
Yes I said scam. A pump and dump pink sheet scam. After several name changes since 1999 and many broken promises along with the dumping of billions of worthless pink sheet shares onto unsuspecting gay and straight investors Frank Olsen and his venture capital friends and a group of paid stock promoters are at it again. Planting a story in the press claiming that financial problems plague 'Q' Television is all part of a continues cycle of fraud and deceit.
Where has all the money gone? First off the symbol being traded today on the pink sheet stock market is QBID and is registered as Triangle Multi-Media Inc. (OTCF: QBID). This means when you buy QBID shares you are buying shares of Triangle Multi-Media Inc. and NOT 'Q' Television Network shares. 'Q' Television Network shares are un-issued and it is against the law to offer them to the general public.
So what happens next? "Frank The Fraud" -- who dubbed himself "The King of Gay Media" -- takes Triangle Multi-Media Inc. into bankruptcy and emerges out as 'Q' Television Network with new shares. The gay community should be boycotting not rewarding such criminal behavior.
If you bought QBID one would think you were buying 'Q' Television Network stock but in fact you are getting shares of Triangle Multi-Media Inc. (OTCF: QBID). Beware!
This reporter knows this information like he knows how to spell. He is speculating like all the rest.
.....scam my azz!
Personally I believe that if Frank wanted to f*ck us, yeah he would file for bankruptcy. But we would have already learned of the bankruptcy by now.....before the restructuring announcement, not after.
Why would Frank, having lawsuits and debts, file AFTER restructuring?
Would the carriers, the GG Federation and celebrities really continue their involvement if indeed this was a scam? Their legal hounds would have smelled it a mile away.
Aside the risk of all these enormous entertainment entities who "still continue" their affiliation with Q, Carol Hinnant ALONE, Q's media powerhouse in maintaining relationships with corporate level and system level affiliates, in my mind, would not jeopardize her carrier in such a claim.
Again, people this is a long. You just got to have patience and let this thing roll out.
Found this...
Scandals involving corporate mismanagement and accounting improprieties have recently contributed to six of the 10 largest corporate bankruptcy filings of all time. The notoriety of these bankruptcy cases has overshadowed the importance of a far more prevalent and potentially useful restructuring tool available to financially troubled companies seeking to sort out a host of problems in a volatileeconomic climate.
Chapter 11 is not the only way to dealwith financial woes. In fact, given the right circumstances, restructuring out-of-court may be far preferable for a number of reasons, including reduced transaction costs, enhanced ability of existing management to control the restructuring process and avoidance of the adverse publicity often associated with a bankruptcy filing. Any company confronting financial problems would be prudent to consider both in- and out-of-court restructuring options, and often in tandem.
Arguably the most important thing to remember when considering restructuring options is that federal bankruptcy law provides the benchmark against which all decisions in a restructuring should be made. A successful restructuring is far more likely to result from a clear evaluation of available options that is informed by a thorough understanding of the Bankruptcy Code and an accurate assessment of the rights and remedies available to the various constituencies in a Chapter 11 case. A successful restructuring also requires professionals (such as Frank) that have substantial experience with the Bankruptcy Code and the bankruptcy courts.
With these ground rules, the company andits professionals can make reliable judgments about the substantive and procedural issues that are crucial in deciding whether to pursue a negotiated out-of-court restructuring or to resort to a bankruptcy filing.
Two key concepts underpin an out-of-court restructuring. First, management, the board of directors, shareholders and creditors must recognize that businesspersons are better suited than judges and litigators to make the business judgments to formulate a feasible restructuring strategy. Second, given the uncertainty and dilution of control inherent in court proceedings, restructuring out-of-court may be preferable because it allows management and the board of directors to maintain control over the process. The objectives of an out-of-court restructuring are certainty, control and a business solution fashioned by the parties with a real financial stake in the outcome.
So again, had Frank wanted to f*ck us...he would have filed. It is apparent to me that he is making every effort as to not having our investment be made in vain.
This restructuring is like our invitation to the ball.
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is the same "~ C.C." in the December 5, 2005 metroG NewsLines "Readers TalkBack"....
LAWSUIT FILED AGAINST "Q-TELEVISION" NETWORK Due to breach of contract ... from metroG NewsLines December 5, 2005
Readers TalkBack...
Frank Qlsen AKA Frank Olson CEO of Pink Sheet QBID has be ripping off innocent investors for over 6 years now with misleading PRs the whole time dumping billions of worthless shares onto the market making himself and the Venture Capitalist he teams up with rich. Why is the government letting this crook get away with this? I have been trying to warn people for years! What do I have to do to get you to look into this SCAM, or at least warn people. ~ C.C.
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AUSTRALIAN EXCLUSIVE - CURVE TV, coming soon to SELECTV
SELECTV, Australia's premiere satellite television network, is pleased to present CURVE TV, soon to be viewed on Australian TV screens.
Featuring programming exclusively from US-based QTV, the channel creates and develops quality television programming for the gay and lesbian community. QTV includes entertainment, lifestyle and information programs including such hit series as Brunch, the first live morning daily talk show created specifically for the GLBT and gay-friendly progressive community and Queer Edge, the talk show where hosts Jack E. Jett and Sandra Bernhard take viewers to the farthest reaches of "Queerdom".
CURVE TV will be launching exclusively on SELECTV in 2006 and will be available as a special EXTRAS package.
To register your interest in CURVE TV, please enter your details and we will soon be in contact.
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BL, Most charting works well but it is the quality of the stock investing into. Example, I like to grab stocks that have a good history and dividends. Enbridge for example. Buy the stock a couple of days before the dividend comes out and sell a couple days after unless it shows heading up. The didvidend is usually issued 1 month later and shows up in your account. Next time you do a buy and sell with ENB, leave those free shares there so they can be compounded and accumulated.
The charts work well for this kind of approach and can be very profitable. There are a lot of stocks out there, but reading to find those who do perform is one of the greatest chores.
As the next question that will come ups "I don't have enough cash to work with". For those who seem to have a lot of time to post here, tells me they have more than enough time to do several trades a day based on intra day trading charts. I built what I have from trades gaining as little as 10$ gain to 6k$ gain in a trade. The 6k$ gains are far and few apart. If you buy a quality stock and make a mistake on the buy, stick it out and it usually comes back.
I have 5 I work with in this process and has paid off well. I think if you ask dusty his oppinion, I don't think he will disagree.
As for pinks, the charts do not work as there is no track record established and non reported. If you find a pink that flys, it is only luck of the draw but in the odd occassion can work.
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quote:Originally posted by Dustoff101: OK, here goes....
Logical chart analysis led me to believe many months ago that an undervalued condition did not exsist here.
Charts are really the only concrete tool we have to work with re-garding this stock.
The Math led me to see the exsistance of massive dilution..
The Art of logic, is an easy thing to understand, because in actuality it only seeks out a reasonable explaination to an event.
Dustoff Just re-reading some posts and found this one. Must have missed it yesterday.
I admit that most charting systems seem like a Rorschach Ink Blot Test to me ... everyone sees something different and everyone thinks they are correct. I also admit that I don't know enough about charting systems to use them.
In the past, I've let the "experts" explain their charts to me, but usually the charts ... oddly enough ... predicted different outcomes. Since all possible occurrences cannot be right, I had to assume some were wrong. And that's the problem: which ones do I believe?
Let me know which charts you believe in, and I will spend some time educating myself on how they work. I really would like to find a tool (or "crystal ball") to help me make some stock market bucks.
Gotta go. Playing another Holdem tournament today but will be back tonight. And as always ... GL to us all.
quote:Originally posted by Dustoff101: OK, here goes....
Logical chart analysis led me to believe many months ago that an undervalued condition did not exsist here.
Charts are really the only concrete tool we have to work with re-garding this stock.
The Math led me to see the exsistance of massive dilution..
The Art of logic, is an easy thing to understand, because in actuality it only seeks out a reasonable explaination to an event.
Dustoff Just re-reading some posts and found this one. Must have missed it yesterday.
I admit that most charting systems seem like a Rorschach Ink Blot Test to me ... everyone sees something different and everyone thinks they are correct. I also admit that I don't know enough about charting systems to use them.
In the past, I've let the "experts" explain their charts to me, but usually the charts ... oddly enough ... predicted different outcomes. Since all possible occurrences cannot be right, I had to assume some were wrong. And that's the problem: which ones do I believe?
Let me know which charts you believe in, and I will spend some time educating myself on how they work. I really would like to find a tool (or "crystal ball") to help me make some stock market bucks.
Gotta go. Playing another Holdem tournament today but will be back tonight. And as always ... GL to us all.
If you look at the charts with a weekly format, it's fairly clear that the stock didn't look healthy.
It's a big change from the daily format.
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quote:Originally posted by Jennifercd10: Q is featured on the Home Page of Selectv, on the right side under “Subscribe Now”. A picture is included.
...business as usual.
hmmm...I see Curve featured there, but not Q...
Leo, Selectv is calling us Curve...
AUSTRALIAN EXCLUSIVE - CURVE TV, coming soon to SELECTV
SELECTV, Australia's premiere satellite television network, is pleased to present CURVE TV, soon to be viewed on Australian TV screens.
Featuring programming exclusively from US-based QTV, the channel creates and develops quality television programming for the gay and lesbian community. QTV includes entertainment, lifestyle and information programs including such hit series as Brunch, the first live morning daily talk show created specifically for the GLBT and gay-friendly progressive community and Queer Edge, the talk show where hosts Jack E. Jett and Sandra Bernhard take viewers to the farthest reaches of "Queerdom".
CURVE TV will be launching exclusively on SELECTV in 2006 and will be available as a special EXTRAS package.
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Leo, it seems that Curve is what they are calling us. Click the Curve TV on their home page. I sent them a e-mail requesting their proposed broadcasting date. I thought it was early March.
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I'm in DC, so I dont have access to The Q. Could someone who watches The Q post as to whether or not the station is up and running again tomorrow?
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Here I sit back on this Sunday afternoon and wonder how all of this undue hatred on this thread has come to be.
Once we were rational in expressing our opinions and respectful to the others, but now fear of "speculation" has become an unjustifible culprit in the breaking of friendships.
How sad and careless of us to have evolved into this thread of social anarchy.....for what?...our egoes?...anger for instant greed?....being too damn impatient?
This board once flourished with hope and fun conversations were abundant.
quote:Originally posted by QBID'n: Here I sit back on this Sunday afternoon and wonder how all of this undue hatred on this thread has come to be.
Once we were rational in expressing our opinions and respectful to the others, but now fear of "speculation" has become an unjustifible culprit in the breaking of friendships.
How sad and careless of us to have evolved into this thread of social anarchy.....for what?...our egoes?...anger for instant greed?....being too damn impatient?
This board once flourished with hope and fun conversations were abundant.
Now listen to us.
shouldent that be "now look at us" since this is not a voice message board, but rather a text based one. It is kinda hard to listen to written words, ive tried to hear them but they just dont speak to me. They just sit there silently tring to tell me something but just cant hear them
As always just pointing out the obvious.
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quote:Originally posted by davidjanas: yay....i just got off the phone with q..i have an appointment with them in two hours ...yayyyyyyyyyyyy.... i will post everything regardless if it is true or not
quote:Originally posted by QBID'n: Here I sit back on this Sunday afternoon and wonder how all of this undue hatred on this thread has come to be.
Once we were rational in expressing our opinions and respectful to the others, but now fear of "speculation" has become an unjustifible culprit in the breaking of friendships.
How sad and careless of us to have evolved into this thread of social anarchy.....for what?...our egoes?...anger for instant greed?....being too damn impatient?
This board once flourished with hope and fun conversations were abundant.
Now listen to us.
Probably because there is no hope. Back when the price was around .001, Q had a lot of things waiting to come out that we were all looking forward to. The audit, more carriers, etc. The hope we had hinged on these things. Some we got, some we didn't, but regardless the share price is 1/10th of what it was when we had hope. Not to mention the A/S being more than 7 times what it was then.
It's just people being people. Most have lost hope and have a hard time communicating with people who still have hope. Sad, but true.
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quote:Originally posted by QBID'n: Here I sit back on this Sunday afternoon and wonder how all of this undue hatred on this thread has come to be.
Once we were rational in expressing our opinions and respectful to the others, but now fear of "speculation" has become an unjustifible culprit in the breaking of friendships.
How sad and careless of us to have evolved into this thread of social anarchy.....for what?...our egoes?...anger for instant greed?....being too damn impatient?
This board once flourished with hope and fun conversations were abundant.
quote:Originally posted by QBID'n: Here I sit back on this Sunday afternoon and wonder how all of this undue hatred on this thread has come to be.
Once we were rational in expressing our opinions and respectful to the others, but now fear of "speculation" has become an unjustifible culprit in the breaking of friendships.
How sad and careless of us to have evolved into this thread of social anarchy.....for what?...our egoes?...anger for instant greed?....being too damn impatient?
This board once flourished with hope and fun conversations were abundant.
Now listen to us.
shouldent that be "now look at us" since this is not a voice message board, but rather a text based one. It is kinda hard to listen to written words, ive tried to hear them but they just dont speak to me. They just sit there silently tring to tell me something but just cant hear them
As always just pointing out the obvious.
Yeah I know, but you know what I mean...and I meant it that way. lol.
Just would rather have things back to normal.
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quote:Originally posted by QBID'n: Here I sit back on this Sunday afternoon and wonder how all of this undue hatred on this thread has come to be.
Once we were rational in expressing our opinions and respectful to the others, but now fear of "speculation" has become an unjustifible culprit in the breaking of friendships.
How sad and careless of us to have evolved into this thread of social anarchy.....for what?...our egoes?...anger for instant greed?....being too damn impatient?
This board once flourished with hope and fun conversations were abundant.
Now listen to us.
I still like ya QBID'n!
aahaha...yeah I know LEO...just wished people would not get so emotional prematurely.
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Good grief, why would someone get "emotional" over a stock that has traded down from .028 to below .0001
Has massive dilution 350,000,000,000 A/S Rumors of shuting down operations Doesn't pay employees Has some kind of a pinnocio for a CEO And now the press is calling the stock a scam and the CEO a crook!
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Posted by: junkmasterg In reply to: Reddog65 who wrote msg# 11874 Date:2/12/2006 6:30:43 PM Post #of 11879
BURBANK Police Confirm
By: hardluck_1 12 Feb 2006, 06:25 PM EST Msg. 1151807 of 1151812 Jump to msg. #
BURBANK Police Confirm: Brurbank Police just confirmed that they were called to QTN on Thurs Feb 9. And suprise suprise, I did not know till just now that they were also called there today Sun Feb 12. Other than that they cant release any info. One would have to go to the Burbank courts * 3rd & Olive in Burbank to supeana the public records.
Physical & Mail Addresses Burbank Police Department 200 N. Third Street Burbank, California 91502
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I don't know, then there's this. Can someone call BPD and confirm that they were there?
Posted by: redfish-red In reply to: junkmasterg who wrote msg# 221176 Date:2/12/2006 6:40:21 PM Post #of 221191
junk....your intelligence is showing....that senario could never happen....the police would never make a company open its doors for a civil complaint ....the circumstances described could never happen that way.....
this is a prime example of message boards gone wild.....lies and made up stories are the norm rather than HONEST stock discussion....
must be kids....imo
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quote:Originally posted by mjm2005: Police at QTN.
Posted by: junkmasterg In reply to: Reddog65 who wrote msg# 11874 Date:2/12/2006 6:30:43 PM Post #of 11879
BURBANK Police Confirm
By: hardluck_1 12 Feb 2006, 06:25 PM EST Msg. 1151807 of 1151812 Jump to msg. #
BURBANK Police Confirm: Brurbank Police just confirmed that they were called to QTN on Thurs Feb 9. And suprise suprise, I did not know till just now that they were also called there today Sun Feb 12. Other than that they cant release any info. One would have to go to the Burbank courts * 3rd & Olive in Burbank to supeana the public records.
Physical & Mail Addresses Burbank Police Department 200 N. Third Street Burbank, California 91502
Can someone just call a police dept. and ask if they were called to a particular location? And how would the original poster known to have called them? Another alleged insider?
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