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We're about to hit a billion, and before noon to boot
I think we have to live with the dilution, but we can't be sure where it came from (Frank gave it to companies for deals, then they dump, or Frank prints them to dump). We do know there is an end point (at least for now - 100B).
I am hoping all these shares, if not a buyback, are being soaked up by people that are going to hold them long. Whether it's Frank in a company vault or stubborn investors who won't sell till the penny mark - either way, I hope all this trading is like a sponge soaking up the dilution, and one that will hold it long enough for us to get some good upticks.
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I would like to point out about the A/S Frank historically likes 53% of the market shares, so that being said that only leaves 47 Billion that theoretically would be release in the O/S... if we have traded 30+ bil in the last few weeks then the extra shares should pretty much have been eaten up (assuming dilution).
Another thing to consider, he gives/reserves his family shares as well so that would eat up more of the O/S. On top of that we dont know exactly how many of the shares Frank has actually released into the market or traded paper for plastic. That being said, my question remains as i asked last week.
Given these factors, whos selling? whos buying, and the most important question for both... WHY?
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quote:Originally posted by mjm2005: Well, that's just great.
What the eff is with the rating bashing?
I'm 3 stars now? Thanks to whoever gave me the one star rating...it's much appreciated and UNDESERVED!
I still have my 4 stars. However i did try to create an account called "The One Star Bandit" just for laughs... to my dismay it was denied
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If he was going to rip us off he'd do it cleaner?? He is a convicted criminal. He'll ripoff anyone at any time.
And as far as the audit being an "ace in the hole", that is so he can get a loan to get more $$$ into QTN. It will not be to buyback shares because QTN is currently a money pit.
quote:Originally posted by davidjanas: its going up and down at .0001 and .0002. now ,i know that theres a lot of stupid investors ,but someone out there is buying big blocks of shares. i dont think its the average joe...because we have to remeber one thing..in pink sheet stocks, mm's control almost everything..if they see that people are buying this stock then they will raise the price right away . somebody is on the inside buying these shares . maybe frank is workin with a market maker ...i just dont think that we get billions of shares traded without frank having to do something with it.. someone can buy out this whole company if they wanted to. but there must be something on paper for them to even think about it. a millionaire can buy out q just by its stock price . so frank is actually the key to this whole thing workin..its a scary thought but its the truth.. now i know what frank meant when he said that the audit was his "ace in the hole" ...its the only leverage he has to his own company..he probably is broke as hell, when i was there he told me that he sold his house in palm springs to help pay for the financing. so maybe the only way he can make money , is by holding this audit, buying some shares,and then selling them.. frank is obviously a smooth con artist . hes got lots of stories.. but i think if he was gonna really rip everyone off he would do it a lot cleaner. i expect to see financials this week, or else a long list of people including myself have been lied to face to face..he has told me stuff personally which i will not mention,,but he has told me this in front of his lawyers and his personal staff and assistants. therefore, i still remain positive that he will come through. it gets harder and harder every day , but i will give him this last week to come clean or else me and some other people who have spoken with him directly will be forced to threaten him with legal action...believe me,,its the last thing i want to do...but being that he tried to come to los angeles to become rich and famous, if he screws us,,im gonna give him the famous los angeles quote.. "ill sue you"
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remember this is all in my humble opinions keep that in mind unless you are an insider which if you were i doubt you would be posting on internet sites.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Monopoly Money:
Another thing to consider, he gives/reserves his family shares as well so that would eat up more of the O/S. On top of that we dont know exactly how many of the shares Frank has actually released into the market or traded paper for plastic. That being said, my question remains as i asked last week.
I for one have never bought that "my relatives" crap. Just another shadow.
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Posted by: djr63 In reply to: None Date:1/30/2006 11:51:02 AM Post #of 10429
Morning everyone!...I got my DVD today and I must say I'm a bit impressed. I wouldn't call this an 'investors reel' but more of a promo reel that carriers would want to see. Very well done. The shows all look interesting and fun to watch. I know nothing about how a network operates, but it looks to me like our money has been well spent.
Will it ever reflect in the QBID share price and make us some money? I have no idea....and there's nothing on this DVD to even HINT at the answer to that question unless we know for sure what is happening with the stock itself. NOT the network, NOT the programs...the STOCK.
There's no doubt in my mind that QTN will be HUGE...what I'm going to get out of it by being an investor in QBID is the question.
I still have hope, though no more or less after seeing this DVD.
Have to run...see you guys this evening! DJ
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QBID hard to flip sell but not impossible. Anyone expecting to palce flip sell order and forget it may not get filled. I have worked it around and did it but this one hasn't gone through yet. I still have many trade days left on my 10 day expection to flip.
It don't look like the DVD is spiking the PPS any.
How about that MOTG.OB and XDSL.OB today? I've flipped sold XDSL so many times and did again today. Have a order in to buy back some more XDSL.OB
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Look, if the company was selling(or dumping) all these billions of shares, we would be able to buy all we want at .0001; and we haven't been able to,(so far)...some have gotten filled, but not many(most, seem to be "locked out" of the .0001 buying).....So, there has to be something else going on....
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quote:Originally posted by Dew-it: I dont believe this! MLON is trading higher that QBID - and "we" are supposedly worth $1B!?
Dew As we all know, the PPS of any stock does not reflect the true value of that stock. It reflects only the amount that investors (I use this term loosely) are willing to pay for it. And the amount investors are willing to pay is relative to what they think the PPS will be in the future.
Without facts, the value of both companies cannot be determined. And without facts, investors usually resort to emotions to make their decisions. Therefore:
QBID's PPS is low because investors are "afraid" it won't go up ... MLON's PPS is higher because investors are "afraid" it will go up without them. Which company is really worth more? I don't know ... still too many unanswered questions about both companies ... but I hope both are worth a ton, because I own shares in both, even though I gave up on MLON a long time ago.
Maybe we'll get some worthwhile Q info soon ... but I am not holding my breath ... I don't look good in blue.
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I put in an order for 5 mil. on Fri. middle of the day with Etrade. all or none. Anyone gotten filled at .0001 with Etrade?
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quote:Originally posted by IntheCurl: Look, if the company was selling(or dumping) all these billions of shares, we would be able to buy all we want at .0001; and we haven't been able to,(so far)...some have gotten filled, but not many(most, seem to be "locked out" of the .0001 buying).....So, there has to be something else going on....
Do you have enough market knowledge to speculate about what this could mean?
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Single Dad, forget Etrade. they will never get filled. Somebody on IHUB was saying you have to call Etrade and tell them to send your order thru another broker or something.
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an important message to frank olson and richard brown...the investors from this site and i am sure many others are totaly sick of this game you are playing...if we do not see something in the form of an audit in the next 2 weeks we will combine forces and hire a pitbull lawyer and accountant to come into your company and make you come clean..this is 100% legal for the shareholders to do...and if you are screwing all these investors you will be prosecuted..but in my opinion your prosecution will be the least of your worries....................
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You can't buy all you want because there are many, many other people in line to buy those .0001 shares.
They are being dumped in big blocks, but you still have to wait in line. Of course, when you put in your order has less to do with when you're filled than who you put it in with.
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There has been alot of speculation, positive and negative; whether there is market knowledge behind it, I don't know...I prefer to think that the company is buying back.....#1- the company would have an idea how many shares are being sold(the audit may have shown this); so they could continue buying, as selling continues, while keeping the price at .0001. #2-there has been alot after hours(and who else would buy after hours- I doubt the mm's would buy for their own accounts, if they thought the company was dumping; #3- The company has been very quiet, during this time... Who is selling? It could still be old restricted shares coming due; or other deals, that Q might have made, for stock...anyway, my opinion......
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quote:Just thought I'd ask ... I was going to award some AH ratings and realized I don't know the spread.
Similar to the Richter scale, 1-10, where the order of magnitude increases exponentially as it moves higher. So a 7-point AH could be 300 times the AH of a 4-point AH.
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quote:Originally posted by Esteban99: You can't buy all you want because there are many, many other people in line to buy those .0001 shares.
They are being dumped in big blocks, but you still have to wait in line. Of course, when you put in your order has less to do with when you're filled than who you put it in with.
I have bought 4 million in 3 trades. I have done this all within the past 2 trading days. Using Schwab and don't have much trouble getting filled.
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I want to thank you for the production of the DVD. As an investor with well over a quarter of a billion shares, I maintain a keen interest in our company. Everything I see with TMM/QTN is impressive. I’ve never witnessed a company go so far in such a short time. I would like to point out one area that many of us investors are very concerned about and that is the lack of financial information is very disturbing to us all. In your Sept. 15, ’05 Letter to Investors, you said:
“We will begin very shortly with a new page on the website outlining our financials, specific breakdowns of deals we have put into place and all necessary information the shareholders should view. This will outline our accomplishments and will aide you in mapping our future plans of becoming the most powerful GLBT network in the world.”
Now with the DVD out of the way, when do you plan on this new Financials Page being available to us? This information would be greatly appreciated, as we sorely need it
Thank you for your time and please contact me either thru e-mail or phone.
Jennifer
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quote:Just thought I'd ask ... I was going to award some AH ratings and realized I don't know the spread.
Similar to the Richter scale, 1-10, where the order of magnitude increases exponentially as it moves higher. So a 7-point AH could be 300 times the AH of a 4-point AH.
E-99 Sounds like you've put a lot of thought into your AH system. Good job.
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quote:Originally posted by justplayin: Right now Q is a good flipper IMO. The impatient will pay the ask and some of us lucky traders are able to fill at .0001.
This is a great time to flip some and get free shares
Totally agree. Otherwise I just could not aford to be here. See my earlier post concerning QBID.OK, MOTG.OB and XDSL.OB flipping.
...and now I will reveal one of my secret weapon flipper ---> TRCI. I don't talk about TRCI much because it has a awful small amount of traders, usually less than 400 shareholders so it's a delicate one to flip. I had order fore more placed Friday at that close price that did not fill then today it hit $7.25 and opened over $5. TRCI one of my favorite. By the time it has retreated (may take a few weeks) most will have forgot so that is the only reason I mention it here.
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I placed an order for 1 million at 11:15 this morning with Ameritrade and it filled at 11:38 A lot of people have had trouble with ETrade apparently.
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some are saying elsewhere to call e-trade and place buy order with market maker UBSS....might be worth a try.....
Posted by: pfrenz In reply to: None Date:1/30/2006 9:47:11 AM Post #of 214227
Let us know if anyone fills at .0001, it would be a good sign if not! Remember, if you use Etrade, call a rep and tell them to route your buy order through UBSS!
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