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alls i no is that it needs to getting moving so i can sell and get more cnes before the pr comes out because i heard the fcc approval is all done and i think good things are coming
JMHO
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That was one ugly close. Nothing in the last 20 trades but .0009s and .001s. Closed .001. Later.
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quote:Originally posted by aceyducey: how many think this will go above 0016 next week?
and why is the volume so low TODAY!!!!????
Actually as far as the MMs are concerned, the volume is staggering. They will try every trick in and outside of the book to scare scare scare people into thinking this stock sux. WHY? They have only the 27th, 28th and up to close of the 29th, to try to cover the naked shares they sold at .0005 & .0006.
MMs have only 3 more days to cover 500 MILLION shares that they fabricated and sold. Dividends are only given to REAL shares.
What you watched today as far as the 'sell' bid' & 'ask', was pure MM manipulation accomplished by selling shares amongst themselves (sideway trading). So in the end, todays volume quashed their widdle egos.
Hey, everyone out there have a Merry Christmas!!
GLTA!!!
Of course, this is all IMHO
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i personally thought today would be 400mil+ volume EASY! well i thought wrong AS USUAL. what is up, people dont want these free shares or WHAT! what does everyone here think of Suncrest (SNYY)? Is this looking good over the next year (or few)? cant find much info on this comp. and i assume the volume is at 0 because everyone is buying FCDH for the FREE SNYY shares instead of being stupid and BUYING SNYY shares? any input is appreciated
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I think everybody jumped in last thur, fri,amd mon. volume was huge the pps wnt up to 18. Most likely the ones that made the volume go up are aware of the divi and yes nobody is going to pat for what will shortly be free shares. I'm not an expert on snyy, but i read enough to think they could be profitable. Active oil wells in russia and some other stuff. If a million shares is worth .02 of an oil stock a year from now that would be a good score. But time will tell.IMO
quote:Originally posted by bugcatcher: i personally thought today would be 400mil+ volume EASY! well i thought wrong AS USUAL. what is up, people dont want these free shares or WHAT! what does everyone here think of Suncrest (SNYY)? Is this looking good over the next year (or few)? cant find much info on this comp. and i assume the volume is at 0 because everyone is buying FCDH for the FREE SNYY shares instead of being stupid and BUYING SNYY shares? any input is appreciated
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well the way i look at it i guess is free shares are free shares... if its worth one cent next year... FREE MONEY, if its worth one dollar next year... FREE MONEY. if they go down next year THEN I DIDNT LOSE ANY MONEY. as long as im not losing money im happy.
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This company actually sounds good for into the new year and beyond, I think im going to just "forget" about this until after the holidays.... although something COULD happen next week (i.e. price rising) I dont see that. Im waiting for January.
What is a "safe" sell date for this to still keep the divi shares?
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Someone said Jan.6,2006. Im not real sure about the "safe" sell date. I do know if you sell there is a good chance that you may be shooting yourself in the foot. Keep those shares!!! The PPS is, without a doubt going up...way up. If you have a few million.... sure play with a million shares, but when this thing REALLY breaks out for the home stretch I am not going to be saying....."What If"...."What if I would have kept those millions of shares...maybe I could retire now." No not me....I am holding and holding tight to the million shares I have. TFN is the key. When it hits the US....BOOOYAAAH!!!!!! If you have ever bought and held.... Well this is the one you should buy and hold. The pps aint going much lower!! "Aint"---You tell I am from the south. lol.
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nah man this stock aint going on where, i just bought it, ergo i just put the kiss of death on it. So much for your retirement dreams muhhahahaha
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Buytex UPDATE: regional NASD guy tells me TA will record owners as of today, so I * can * sell next week and divvies still come to me...unbelievable...lol
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Please do sell and I will guarantee you. You will not get the divy. Enough is enough. If you do not understand the divy program read about it and you may understand it. First it was you can buy on the 28th and get it. Now it is you can sell next week and still get it. Both are wrong. You better hold them shares at least through the 29th or you want get anything. I will say this. I am not selling one dang share until I see that divy in my acct. This is getting totally out of hand. It is sad that people are telling people when to buy and sell a divy stock. When they do not even have a clue of what they are talking about. I am not going to say any more. Do as you wish. If you sell Tuesday. I guarantee you will learn a valuable lesson. This is unbelievable.
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quote:Originally posted by Tape worm: Buytex UPDATE: regional NASD guy tells me TA will record owners as of today, so I * can * sell next week and divvies still come to me...unbelievable...lol
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Please do sell and I will guarantee you. You will not get the divy. Enough is enough. If you do not understand the divy program read about it and you may understand it. First it was you can buy on the 28th and get it. Now it is you can sell next week and still get it. Both are wrong. You better hold them shares at least through the 29th or you want get anything. I will say this. I am not selling one dang share until I see that divy in my acct. This is getting totally out of hand. It is sad that people are telling people when to buy and sell a divy stock. When they do not even have a clue of what they are talking about. I am not going to say any more. Do as you wish. If you sell Tuesday. I guarantee you will learn a valuable lesson. This is unbelievable.
Well said TW! I too am holding until the SNYY shares show up in my account. Until then I don't have to decide what to do with FCDH shares. They're on the back burner right now.
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Shares still held: 132000000 shares Own Type: Direct
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GLTA!!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by Tape worm: Buytex UPDATE: regional NASD guy tells me TA will record owners as of today, so I * can * sell next week and divvies still come to me...unbelievable...lol
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Please do sell and I will guarantee you. You will not get the divy. Enough is enough. If you do not understand the divy program read about it and you may understand it. First it was you can buy on the 28th and get it. Now it is you can sell next week and still get it. Both are wrong. You better hold them shares at least through the 29th or you want get anything. I will say this. I am not selling one dang share until I see that divy in my acct. This is getting totally out of hand. It is sad that people are telling people when to buy and sell a divy stock. When they do not even have a clue of what they are talking about. I am not going to say any more. Do as you wish. If you sell Tuesday. I guarantee you will learn a valuable lesson. This is unbelievable.
hey, I screwed up by saying what I did about the 29th... truly, I did not know the difference between common-stock dividends and restricted-stock dividends.
I say that out-loud and in public...
The reason I pushed the point was because I've seen lottsa traders get mixed up and lose dough on common-stock divvies, where the deciding factor *is* the ex-date...
If you check it, you'll see that as soon I knew I was off, I posted it.
The NASD conversations are true...
Jennifer Fainer (SP?) is at 203-385-6366
That's who Sandy talked to, when he realized he needed to issue a PR this morning...
she told me, the *first* reg-agency official to do so--that today was the last day...
When I thought about it? Realized i didn't ask about buying today, selling next week....
So. I called back and she said, basically--call your broker...
I thought that was odd: NASD sets the rules...lol
anyway, I called district office ( Dallas district office: Sherif el-Rafe), and that's the guy who said you can buy on Friday 12/23 and sell next week (starting Tuesday) and still receive divvies...
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quote BuyTex ----------------------------------------------- anyway, I called district office ( Dallas district office: Sherif el-Rafe), and that's the guy who said you can buy on Friday 12/23 and sell next week (starting Tuesday) and still receive divvies... Hey, I post the best info I have at the time... ------------------------------------------------
You maybe right, but I have read you must be the holder at lest on the day of record and then again by one day after the 'paydate' which is January 6. So by what I have read you cannot sell until at the very earliest January 07, 2006 if you want to retain those divies. IMHO
GLTA!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by Rasica: quote BuyTex ----------------------------------------------- anyway, I called district office ( Dallas district office: Sherif el-Rafe), and that's the guy who said you can buy on Friday 12/23 and sell next week (starting Tuesday) and still receive divvies... Hey, I post the best info I have at the time... ------------------------------------------------
You maybe right, but I have read you must be the holder at lest on the day of record and then again by one day after the 'paydate' which is January 6. So by what I have read you cannot sell until at the very earliest January 07, 2006 if you want to retain those divies. IMHO
GLTA!!!!
listen, at this point, i offer *no* absolutes, lol...what i was posting earlier applies to common-stock divvies...since I realized different rules apply to restricted-stock? just reporting what info I got...
lol, in my poor defense? I've always said, call NASD and your broker...
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Man am I glad this Divi's crap is over with!! Bottom line sell when you want, the shares are yours, do with them as you wish. Personnally I am holding till we see a US Carrier contract, then we will see a real PPS value.
Anyways check out the last paragraph of this story. TFN is starting to get its exposure and the good thing about this is that its not on a stock market forum.
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Excellent find Bigrod40. Here is that last statement in that article. ---------------------------------------------- "AWE Overload will debut Jan. 2 on The Fight Network. The weekly show for the red-hot Winnipeg-based promotion will air Mondays at 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. and Saturdays at 3 p.m."
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I myself do not know if this stock will take off or not. But when I compare it to QBID. It is way ahead of it and has one heck of a smaller O/S. QBID ran to .027. Just a thought here. They said that they wanted to buy back a billion shares. It would make since to me to try to keep the PPS down until this was complete. At .001 it would cost them $1,000,000.00 just a thought.
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One question about these restricted shares. If you have a margin account... and these SNYY shares go into your account can you borrow against those shares even tho there restricted?
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I dont think your brokerage will allow you to borrow against SNYY. After all its a penny stock and not a New York stock exchange stock.
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quote:Originally posted by Bigrod40: Man am I glad this Divi's crap is over with!! Bottom line sell when you want, the shares are yours, do with them as you wish. Personnally I am holding till we see a US Carrier contract, then we will see a real PPS value.
Anyways check out the last paragraph of this story. TFN is starting to get its exposure and the good thing about this is that its not on a stock market forum.
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If you borrowed against shares at $1.50, and later the same shares went to $.00015 you might have a problem.
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I just can't imagine borrowing money to buy stocks, especially pennies. I have always used my own money and then I use made money. Posts: 288 | From: South Florida | Registered: Oct 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Bigrod40: Man am I glad this Divi's crap is over with!! Bottom line sell when you want, the shares are yours, do with them as you wish. Personnally I am holding till we see a US Carrier contract, then we will see a real PPS value.
Anyways check out the last paragraph of this story. TFN is starting to get its exposure and the good thing about this is that its not on a stock market forum.
Be very carefull about when you sell! I am by no means an expert, but I have read other posts from people who sold too early and the divies were removed from their portfolio.
As I understand it, there is a post ex-dividend date. Ex-date or Ex-dividend date– On (or after) this date the security trades without its dividend. If you buy a dividend paying stock one day before the ex-dividend you will still get the dividend, but if you buy on the ex-dividend date, you won't get the dividend. Conversely, if you want to sell a stock and still receive a dividend that has been declared you need to sell on (or after) the ex-dividend day. The ex-date is the second business day before the date of record.
One is called Ex-Date to buy (on) and the other called Ex-dividend date to sell (after). The new paydate is January 6th...therefore the ex-dividend date to sell is January 7th.
I would highly caution you not to think you can sell your shares of FCDH at anytime you want without it impacting your ownership of SNYY dividends.
If you sell your stock before the ex-dividend date, you also are selling away your right to the stock dividend. Your sale includes an obligation to deliver any shares acquired as a result of the dividend to the buyer of your shares, since the seller will receive an I.O.U. or "due bill" from his or her broker for the additional shares. Thus, it is important to remember that the day you can sell your shares without being obligated to deliver the additional shares is not the first business day after the record date, but usually is the first business day after the stock dividend is paid. http://www.sec.gov/answers/dividen.htm
MERRY CHRISTMAS
GLTA!!!!
Of course, only IMHO
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The Divvy was a marketing fund raising tool/scam.
They get friends to buy stock at a low price, announce news followed by a divvy you must hold onto for a couple of weeks, the price runs 5X and the friends and company dump their shares.
Since half the people are holding for the divvy which cost the company almost nothing compared to the run up, there is less competition in the sell off for the friends and company.
Only those who bought low or sold high get out ok, those buying from .0007 to .0018 who hold for the divvy get screwed.
The price will probably fall back to .0003 or .0004 before it turns around. Just my two cents. Those who get back in at that point may make some money. If you hold onto your shares long term it may go back up if the network idea is succesful.
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quote:Originally posted by JohnnyRotten: The Divvy was a marketing fund raising tool/scam.
They get friends to buy stock at a low price, announce news followed by a divvy you must hold onto for a couple of weeks, the price runs 5X and the friends and company dump their shares.
Since half the people are holding for the divvy which cost the company almost nothing compared to the run up, there is less competition in the sell off for the friends and company.
Only those who bought low or sold high get out ok, those buying from .0007 to .0018 who hold for the divvy get screwed.
The price will probably fall back to .0003 or .0004 before it turns around. Just my two cents. Those who get back in at that point may make some money. If you hold onto your shares long term it may go back up if the network idea is succesful.
Now on the other hand, SNYY was valued at 1.20 on the Declaration date. This was not based on the value of FCDH, or friends buying FCDH. This was a windfall from selling Kachina Gold Mine and Terra Block and its contracts. This was not an arbitrary and hollow PR, it was a windfall from the exchange of assets, that was paid by 'restricted shares'. Restricted shares were recieved and restricted shares were divied.
Your scenario for a drop back to .0003 or .0004 does not follow your argument. In fact it makes no sense what so ever. Any stock can fall back, but you give absolutely no basis for your argument.
For one thing, from your argument, it seems to me you are not aware that the dividends are 'restricted'. That the restricted shares are of SNYY, which were previously restricted. It is true that after 12 months when a sell off of some divies occur, proportionately the SNYY stock will drop. This is normal and afterwards, SNYY stock will resume its natural course to grow.
GLTA!!!
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Rasica Very well stated. I myself expect to see FCDH drop back maybe to the .0005 level with no news. Just because a lot of people jumped in to get the divy. Volume might slow and the PPS drop some. But with the right PRs it should head back up. Lets just say if FCDH stays right where it is. The worst case is that you sell it and only lose your commission and you pick up free shares of SNYY.
SNYY could end up being very good to us. If it becomes a growing business. We could all do very well off of it. If on the other hand it fails. At least we gave it a shot.
Example: You bought 1M shares of FCDH at .001.
You paid $1000 for it plus commission. Now you sell it for .001 you would get back $1000 and again pay a commission. If with ameritrade each buy/sell cost $10.99. So you would be out $21.98. At 1 to 6 you would have in your account 166,666 shares of SNYY. If the value of SNYY in one year is .01 you would have $1666. I'll take that. Right now SNYY has a value of $1.50.
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