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MJM...up early and doing some great DD, good reading. thanks
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I'm sure that you are only trying to be funny. But seeing how 1 year to a human is like7 years to a dog The 60 days to a human would be 8.57 days in dog years.
What may have worked better in this case. Would have been creative days. Where in the christian faith I believe the case is 1 day to God is like. 1000 years to man Which means we should see the audit in the next 60000 years
I have never expected the audit before tomorrow based on the 60 days that Frank told us. Lokking back on his deadlines, I can't remember any where he was not at least a couple weeks late at best. Based on this. I don't beleivewe will see anything untill into December. I would not mind being proved wrong on this by Frank, but will not be dissapointed tomorow at the close when we know nothoing more then w do right now.
On a seperate note, I hAve been away now for 2 weeks and I have no intentions of trying to catch up on all the posts, could someone give me a brief overview of anything pertainat that I missed over this time? I see there is some mention of the A/S being increased to 60 billion, is this true?? I have no real internet access till Monday. I'm reading and writing this on my blackbery
Thanks in advance
Rod
quote:Originally posted by LEO: Or maybe he meant 60 days in dog years.
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You now what's funny, when the PR was released when he asked an other 60 days you were all focused on 19 and 21 now now that you guys knew that you wouldn't see it on those dates your looking for reasons why we aren't seeing it. just for not admitting that it was an other PR that Frank didn't comme true.
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Bottomline, the share count is to big, no major investors would want to put there money in at this point no matter what type of progress they are making, that's why there are no major investors in this. We can get all the major carriers in the game and it still won't matter. We are stuck ya'll. I have been living the lie for a year now and it time to be living reality at this point.
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I think QTV is doing lot of awesome things. But as long as Frank keeps increasing the AS there is no way we are going benefit from that. He doesn't have the money to buy back the shares. All the PRs about his buy back back in April, I don't even trust it ever happened. What's the point of buying back few shares if you are going to flood the market with billions of shares later. He doesn't have any Private investros or VC. All he does is keeps diluting the shares. thats very depressing. If he had some kind of debt financing, we would be sitting easily at $0.25 by now with all the good things happening surrounding the network
quote:Originally posted by mjm2005: Again from the CC:
Jerry: I'm calling from Cleveland, OH. My question is, for areas like Ohio and the midwest where we don't have a very large gay and lesbian population, how do you plan to move into this type of market.
Frank Olsen: Well, we worked that strategy out and basically is, we feel that it doesn't matter what market it's in. It doesn't cost the cable company a fortune to put us in your areas. And if you people will honestly call your local cable company, honestly call your local cable company from your local area, and do not call other cable companies, just ask for the operator and say would you please make a notation that I'd like to have Q Television. We've be glad to have you do that. Rene would like to add something to that.
Rene: I don't know if you heard earlier, but we are negotiating with both satellite companies. If and when that happens of course, the footprint of the satellite company is the entire United States. So you can view QTV that way.
Jerry: Thanks guys.
Rene: However, I want to be very careful. We're only negotiating. It doesn't mean that the deal is signed.
Jerry: Right, don't get caught with your pants down.
Rene: Correct:
Frank Olsen: And you can call your satellite companies too.
Hi all... Just to keep some clarity here, these excerpts are from the Oct. 2004 CC and not from the one last month. Rene didn’t talk during the CC last month.
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I have not invested in this company as of right now, seems like a great idea but to many negative aspects surrounding the company
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quote:Originally posted by mjm2005: And, did I mention there's about 4 million active members on Gay.com... not including guests???
Thanks for the great DD MJM.
Yeah, no problem...up a little late...decided to snoop around and see what I could find...
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quote:Originally posted by mjm2005: Again from the CC:
Jerry: I'm calling from Cleveland, OH. My question is, for areas like Ohio and the midwest where we don't have a very large gay and lesbian population, how do you plan to move into this type of market.
Frank Olsen: Well, we worked that strategy out and basically is, we feel that it doesn't matter what market it's in. It doesn't cost the cable company a fortune to put us in your areas. And if you people will honestly call your local cable company, honestly call your local cable company from your local area, and do not call other cable companies, just ask for the operator and say would you please make a notation that I'd like to have Q Television. We've be glad to have you do that. Rene would like to add something to that.
Rene: I don't know if you heard earlier, but we are negotiating with both satellite companies. If and when that happens of course, the footprint of the satellite company is the entire United States. So you can view QTV that way.
Jerry: Thanks guys.
Rene: However, I want to be very careful. We're only negotiating. It doesn't mean that the deal is signed.
Jerry: Right, don't get caught with your pants down.
Rene: Correct:
Frank Olsen: And you can call your satellite companies too.
Hi all... Just to keep some clarity here, these excerpts are from the Oct. 2004 CC and not from the one last month. Rene didn’t talk during the CC last month.
Jen...mea culpa...mea culpa...
That's my fault...
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quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: DISH: I sent a copy of the reply letter that Dish has been sending to customers regarding the adding of QTN to their programming to someone at "Q". Carol Hinnant VP Affiliate Sales.
I will not post the reply (yet) but I was told that "if" Echostar (Dish) reveived 20 customer letters a day, the Dish management may speed things up.
I was "not told" that there is a contract in place but it would appear that there are talks taking place. So lets get that 20 letters out daily.
Long, strong and holding.
Great goin DOC!!!!DISH DISH DISH!!if we were to land them seriously, it would be the biggest news the stock EVER has....
I ask all of you, to please, send in your requests to DISH and DIrectv. And if possible reply back in the forum when you have sent it...
Reply back from Dish - I hope everyones been doing thier part in sending thier requests out to dish and direct tv.....dish and direct need 20 request per day???? so I hope thier getting it...
Dear *******,
Thanks for your interest in DIRECTV. I'm excited to hear that you're considering joining the DIRECTV family.
While we dont offer the QTN right now, I have forwarded your comments on to DIRECTV management for review. We have added on channels in our current lineup mostly based on our customers request.
I realize that you may have some other questions, so we have set up two ways for you to get fast answers to all of your questions and begin enjoying DIRECTV:
- If you'd rather order your system by phone, or have questions that couldn't be answered on our web site, you can call us at 888-777-2454 from 6:00 a.m. to 3:00 a.m. Eastern Time. Our call center is staffed with knowledgeable Sales Agents who are ready to help.
We look forward to serving you as a customer and showing you why DIRECTV is the best entertainment value available...
Sincerely,
Bonamei DIRECTV Customer Service
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Ok, I just sent DirecTV an email using that link on someone's signature...MT's I think...
Here it is---->
Dear DirecTV,
My name is MJM. I am currently a subscriber to Patriot Media's digital cable service in Morris County, NJ. However, I have been looking to upgrade to a dish for quite some time now. However, the main thing keeping me with Patriot Media has always been my cable internet and its channel selection.
However, if DirecTV happens to add certain channels, I would be extremely interested in switching. One of these channels is the Q Television Network. If this, among other channels were added, then I would most definitely switch and cancel my digital cable (keeping only the cable internet service).
My question then is: Is there any word on the Q Television network? For example, are there any negotiations to acquire this channel? If not, I would like to fotmally request this channel.
Thanks for your help,
MJM
I'll send Dish in the next few minutes...
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Yes actually shot an 8 point buck on Friday morning
I'm glad I took the 2 weeks or I would have gotten skunked. The weather was terrible for the first week.
We got a fresh snow fall on thursday night and the temperature dipped down to -10 celcius which got them moving around on Friday morning.
We got 2 in total split among 4 hunters. I'm happy with that
Rod
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Thanks for all the replies. For those that tried and got the full mailbox message I have made room for more messages so please try it again if you got the full box message. I appologise for that. I did not expect that great of a responce. To those that did manage to get a pm to me, thank you very very much
Rodney
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Arrowed one myself last Sunday. I was just about to get out of my stand when he came crashing through the brush to my side. I had already been standing up the moment he came in. I quickly pulled an arrow out of my quiver and loaded. I waited till he got in front for a decent shot but he wouldn't, it was all happening to fast as usual. And I had already put my tube down into my jacket so I couldn't reach for it, so I just drew back and whistled real loud. He finally stopped long enough to give me a great quarter shot. Lucky me! Waited almost an hour before I got down to track him. He only made it half way up the knob. I've taken a few 8's before but he had the biggest spread by far.
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imo,a very possible scenario, fyi from ihub:
Posted by: ron2w In reply to: 500_and_Long who wrote msg# 188592 Date:11/20/2005 6:09:16 PM Post #of 188646
500 - Here is one way it could play out IMO.
I think that sometime ago Frank, looking at dozen factors of the political and financial landscape, decided that the best way to proceed was to pour every resource he had (yes, including share dilution), into building the company and developing its product line just as rapidly as humanly possible, and expressly in order to sell it!
In this way he could create gargantuan excitement as he burst onto the world stage, immediately snatch a lopsided amount of market share from LOGO and Here! and, most importantly, try to drive potential buyers, hungry for new money making formulas, into a (yes) frenzied bidding war for the company.
With this evolved approach, valuation per share is unfortunately sacrificed in the short term because the traditional market forces of you and me buying and selling vs. the dilution will probably not be sufficient to raise the pps much.
However, the real valuation per share comes a bit later as a result of the market analysis of the income potential performed by prospective purchasers who will very soon come to realize, if they haven't already, that this company is, or is about to be, worth several billion dollars.
The beauty of the evolved plan is that it saves us IMO easily 2-3 years getting us to, say, 3-10 cents per share, even with the present dilution.
With a more wimpy plan, where we hang back with maybe a few hundred million shares, but don't purchase the things we need to grow and to mass produce all the great new shows needed to attract advertisers and subscribers, we'll also get to 3-10 cents but it'll take much longer.
But in either case, the pps is the same: 3-10 cents.
So which would you rather have 3-10 cents now, or go to college (this is a joke) and have 3-10 cents after you come out?
Consider also this.
Once you positively hitch your star to sale of the company for a lump sum as the source of the valuation, we shareholders end up with the identical proceeds no matter how many shares are out there. (Our percentage ownership never changes with a R/S.)
This is why I believe Frank always found it possible to say that there would never be a reverse split.
My own opinion is that here is how it will play out from here.
Frank will sell the company for some billions to a private company who will then promptly IPO at $10 - $20, on a major stock exchange such as the AMEX or NASDAQ!
The deal will be structured so that in exchange for our QBID shares we will be paid the billions in cash plus deeply discounted shares of the IPOing company relative to the IPO price.
Plus with a little luck, we'll also be offered extra deeply discounted shares to purchase, all of which will allow us to keep our investment in Q going and, yes, under different management.
And of course we'll have the cash to purchase these additional shares from the cash component of the proceeds of the sale.
Very likely, Q will end up being the core business of the acquiring company.
Therefore, this effectively also simultaneously achieves Frank's and our other goal of quickly moving to a major exchange.
All hypothetical to be sure, and this may not be how it turns out in every detail.
But I do believe it'll be something like this, and that it'll all come together sooner than we think.
Ron
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Absolutely beyond improbable. Any and every RS is a bad thing for investors. Even if this theory is correct it still means Frank lied. It still means he is going to be sued. And it still means investors get screwed.
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Are there any private QBID boards? Can a private QBID board be created on allstocks? Honestly, this is getting ridiculous...even on IHUB...
Ahhhhh...
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quote:Originally posted by sidhartha: imo,a very possible scenario, fyi from ihub:
Posted by: ron2w In reply to: 500_and_Long who wrote msg# 188592 Date:11/20/2005 6:09:16 PM Post #of 188646
500 - Here is one way it could play out IMO.
I think that sometime ago Frank, looking at dozen factors of the political and financial landscape, decided that the best way to proceed was to pour every resource he had (yes, including share dilution), into building the company and developing its product line just as rapidly as humanly possible, and expressly in order to sell it!
In this way he could create gargantuan excitement as he burst onto the world stage, immediately snatch a lopsided amount of market share from LOGO and Here! and, most importantly, try to drive potential buyers, hungry for new money making formulas, into a (yes) frenzied bidding war for the company.
With this evolved approach, valuation per share is unfortunately sacrificed in the short term because the traditional market forces of you and me buying and selling vs. the dilution will probably not be sufficient to raise the pps much.
However, the real valuation per share comes a bit later as a result of the market analysis of the income potential performed by prospective purchasers who will very soon come to realize, if they haven't already, that this company is, or is about to be, worth several billion dollars.
The beauty of the evolved plan is that it saves us IMO easily 2-3 years getting us to, say, 3-10 cents per share, even with the present dilution.
With a more wimpy plan, where we hang back with maybe a few hundred million shares, but don't purchase the things we need to grow and to mass produce all the great new shows needed to attract advertisers and subscribers, we'll also get to 3-10 cents but it'll take much longer.
But in either case, the pps is the same: 3-10 cents.
So which would you rather have 3-10 cents now, or go to college (this is a joke) and have 3-10 cents after you come out?
Consider also this.
Once you positively hitch your star to sale of the company for a lump sum as the source of the valuation, we shareholders end up with the identical proceeds no matter how many shares are out there. (Our percentage ownership never changes with a R/S.)
This is why I believe Frank always found it possible to say that there would never be a reverse split.
My own opinion is that here is how it will play out from here.
Frank will sell the company for some billions to a private company who will then promptly IPO at $10 - $20, on a major stock exchange such as the AMEX or NASDAQ!
The deal will be structured so that in exchange for our QBID shares we will be paid the billions in cash plus deeply discounted shares of the IPOing company relative to the IPO price.
Plus with a little luck, we'll also be offered extra deeply discounted shares to purchase, all of which will allow us to keep our investment in Q going and, yes, under different management.
And of course we'll have the cash to purchase these additional shares from the cash component of the proceeds of the sale.
Very likely, Q will end up being the core business of the acquiring company.
Therefore, this effectively also simultaneously achieves Frank's and our other goal of quickly moving to a major exchange.
All hypothetical to be sure, and this may not be how it turns out in every detail.
But I do believe it'll be something like this, and that it'll all come together sooner than we think.
Ron
I like the way he thinks...and it's a lot more thought out than a lot of the trash that's been on these boards lately from a few posters...at least the veterans are still contributing amazingly...
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Boy, I thought that Allstocks was supposed to be an open forum of ideas. This looks a little like censorship.Removing post that have nothing bad in them except somethings you dont want people to hear. Its sad.
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That's fine to say that's alot more thought out mjm, but is that in any way realistic? I sure wish that poster would have gone into a little more detai, b/c if that isn't based on some past history, I would give this fantasy a 1% chance of happening.
Don't get me wrong though, I hope there is more to it that just a thought, and I hope it comes true.
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