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Wallace what is it about QBID that is makes it a bad investment, since you are tring to save me from losing my shirt, or hoping i do lose i havent decided if you were takling to everyone here or just the people you dislike for some reason or another.
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quote:Originally posted by Monopoly Money: i was actually hopeing for some facts to support your aruement that you and ries have been throwing at everyone but since you cant support you claims against the leasst knowledgeable person here then im calling your bluff. Since you gave no facts for your arguments, which i generously and politely requested for, and now use this obviously low level of though statement, which i shall refer to as a copout. Then i say to you, you have no right to call anyone a pumper or a fact twister since you yourself cannot come up with anything of substance or value to back up as to why QBID is a bad investment.
Also if you cant even prove to me why qbid is a bad investment why are you even bothering to post nonsense without backing anything up. You remind me of legal over in the CMKX thread. Your not related to him are you?
quote:Originally posted by Dustoff101: MM,does'nt look your ready yet.LOL
MM The biggest problem with QBID is not the OS... Honestly it isn't. It is the fact that the OS is growing daily... That's the problem. Sixty billion shares is not so much that a stock will not move... Look at CMKI/CMKM/CMKX a couple years ago when it ran to .0012. It ran because the transfer agent dropped UC and there was a shortage in the steady stream of shares. Even a stock with close to a trillion shares can run if demand is high enough. Remember the stock market is all about supply and demand principles. Getting back to QBID. Demand is high... Demand is huge actually. Supply is out of control. Frank is the one issuing shares. Since issuing shares adversely affects the share price Frank is knowingly reducing share price. This conflicts directley with statement issued by Frank via the conference call and various PR's. Hence Frank has lied.
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You should already know what makes QBID a bad buy (and I purposely do not use the word "investment"). Even with that 1 share of QBID you claim to own, you have lost your shirt. Ten to one it is worth a lot less than you paid for it. What does that tell you?
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Okay the extra 15 bil is for the Mary heart show *i think is the name of it* but according to some people frank said that if he didnt get it he would cut it back down to 45bil which is what it was at.
The price dropping well i have no explaintion for it becaues i have no idea. Do you have any and can back it up with facts?
Theories is one of the parts about this board that make it fun and interesting, lots of creative people out there. And if you notice lots if not all the people with theories say *DO NOT INVEST BASED ON MY INFO, DO YOUR OWN DD* i recall seeing that over and over again. So i fail to see the problem and why thats pumping.
I equate it to you yelling at everyone that cigarettes are bad, when there is clearly a label that has the surgeon generals warning. Basically the same thing here.
So still i understand the price dropped but why? i understand the A/S is 60 bil and will possibly go down but how is that bad, Microsoft is around 20bil i do believe and there over $20.00 a share so please help me, with facts since im a facts kinda guy, understand why i should sell all my shares and walk away from QBID?
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60,000,000,000 SHRS and possibly more dilution coming..
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quote:Originally posted by Monopoly Money: i was actually hopeing for some facts to support your aruement that you and ries have been throwing at everyone but since you cant support you claims against the leasst knowledgeable person here then im calling your bluff. Since you gave no facts for your arguments, which i generously and politely requested for, and now use this obviously low level of though statement, which i shall refer to as a copout. Then i say to you, you have no right to call anyone a pumper or a fact twister since you yourself cannot come up with anything of substance or value to back up as to why QBID is a bad investment.
Also if you cant even prove to me why qbid is a bad investment why are you even bothering to post nonsense without backing anything up. You remind me of legal over in the CMKX thread. Your not related to him are you?
quote:Originally posted by Dustoff101: MM,does'nt look your ready yet.LOL
MM The biggest problem with QBID is not the OS... Honestly it isn't. It is the fact that the OS is growing daily... That's the problem. Sixty billion shares is not so much that a stock will not move... Look at CMKI/CMKM/CMKX a couple years ago when it ran to .0012. It ran because the transfer agent dropped UC and there was a shortage in the steady stream of shares. Even a stock with close to a trillion shares can run if demand is high enough. Remember the stock market is all about supply and demand principles. Getting back to QBID. Demand is high... Demand is huge actually. Supply is out of control. Frank is the one issuing shares. Since issuing shares adversely affects the share price Frank is knowingly reducing share price. This conflicts directley with statement issued by Frank via the conference call and various PR's. Hence Frank has lied.
Ok you didn't get it the first time... so here goes again.... Constant issuance of shares is the problem
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Whether you like it or not, my post WAS specifically with reference to QBID, the avid QBID pumpers of a POS, about mistreatment by regular posters on the QBID thread and about a lack of talent demonstrated by someone who can ban posters from both QBID and Allstocks. Tough titty if you don't like it! It was about the stock and references to the stock. QBID is a POS!
Clyde Crashcup,
As far as air is concerned, all of it generated by the pumpers on this QBID thread stinks to high heaven. Hope you lose your shirts.
Calm down kid. Anyone that invests enough in ANY penny stock to lose their shirts is crazy anyways. If it this star stuff that has you so worked up I will give you a bunch of em!
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quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: the bait is set
if you cant pm me anymore, then you know what to do guys.
see you on the other side
Hopefully the above means you will not be pumping the crap out of QBID any more and are following through on your threat to Bob Frey to go elsewhere. I would also assume that you have complained again to Bob Frey for no good or valid reason....just your usual objections to others' opinions about your pumping QBID to entice others to buy into a POS so it helps your pocketbook.
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Oh i own no less then 1 share of QBID, i dont care to disclose that information because frankly its nobodies business. Now as far as what it tells me, tells me that either no one is buy at higher prices or lots of people are selling off because they didnt want to hold on to the Q any longer. Either way i cant tell you for sure i can only speculate. I'm the one asking you for facts to back up your complaints about the company and convience me, the stupid nieve noob invester, that i should sell my one share and cut my loss as it is.
quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: MM
You should already know what makes QBID a bad buy (and I purposely do not use the word "investment"). Even with that 1 share of QBID you claim to own, you have lost your shirt. Ten to one it is worth a lot less than you paid for it. What does that tell you?
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people can decide for themselves if they want to follow you stock gods that have nothing better to do then to hang out in the POS stocks as you call them, bragging about how smart you are and how much Bob will miss you if you are gone
maybe then you can have your followers over there.
this thread was set up to discuss what is happening with QBID.
we are sharing facts that we find.
you dont like that we have a civil conversation going on in here.
you come here and waist our time belittling anyone who is invested in Qbid, Bob Frey and his mods, and bragging about how wise and wonderful you are.
you know something. if you where that wise and wonderful, you would not have to tell us, as we would see it in your actions and your behavior.
the greatest people on the face of this earth are among the most modest, and you are so far on the opposite side of that line.
stop waisting pages of your dribble here. go start your own forum and those that actually want to hear your wisdom will follow.
Rod
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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards. Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.
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isn't it only a problem if the issuance of shares actually make it to the float. where does it say that when any company increases their A/S that they use them? it has been done before where a company issued shares but did not use them in the alloted time and therefore the shares became unuseable.
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Ok you didn't get it the first time... so here goes again.... Constant issuance of shares is the problem
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Sorry Ries i didnt see that post up there, in the middle of work and tring to keep up with the constant postings. So you would be correct that i didnt get it the first time because i didnt see it. Not because i am intellectually incapabale of understanding the concepts. It was actually explained very well and i give you kudos for it. Espcailly since im taking Macro Economics this semester so i can really relate to the info. Now becuase he raised it to 60 Bil does that mean he actually have to release the shares into the market? and furthermore is there anway to prove what has been released and what hasent been?
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quote:Originally posted by RiescoDiQui:
quote:Originally posted by Monopoly Money: i was actually hopeing for some facts to support your aruement that you and ries have been throwing at everyone but since you cant support you claims against the leasst knowledgeable person here then im calling your bluff. Since you gave no facts for your arguments, which i generously and politely requested for, and now use this obviously low level of though statement, which i shall refer to as a copout. Then i say to you, you have no right to call anyone a pumper or a fact twister since you yourself cannot come up with anything of substance or value to back up as to why QBID is a bad investment.
Also if you cant even prove to me why qbid is a bad investment why are you even bothering to post nonsense without backing anything up. You remind me of legal over in the CMKX thread. Your not related to him are you?
quote:Originally posted by Dustoff101: MM,does'nt look your ready yet.LOL
MM The biggest problem with QBID is not the OS... Honestly it isn't. It is the fact that the OS is growing daily... That's the problem. Sixty billion shares is not so much that a stock will not move... Look at CMKI/CMKM/CMKX a couple years ago when it ran to .0012. It ran because the transfer agent dropped UC and there was a shortage in the steady stream of shares. Even a stock with close to a trillion shares can run if demand is high enough. Remember the stock market is all about supply and demand principles. Getting back to QBID. Demand is high... Demand is huge actually. Supply is out of control. Frank is the one issuing shares. Since issuing shares adversely affects the share price Frank is knowingly reducing share price. This conflicts directley with statement issued by Frank via the conference call and various PR's. Hence Frank has lied.
Ok you didn't get it the first time... so here goes again.... Constant issuance of shares is the problem
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Just to step in here, seeing as you like to bash the crap out of Q, I think Rod has the right to say as he pleases as well. I think seeing as the bashers claim that they are brow beaten then I think the others who feel there is still potential also have that right. The difference between the basher and the so called pumper is the basher breaks the board rules then wines they get banned. Lets face it, that is the bottom line or have I missed something?
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quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: the bait is set
if you cant pm me anymore, then you know what to do guys.
see you on the other side
Hopefully the above means you will not be pumping the crap out of QBID any more and are following through on your threat to Bob Frey to go elsewhere. I would also assume that you have complained again to Bob Frey for no good or valid reason....just your usual objections to others' opinions about your pumping QBID to entice others to buy into a POS so it helps your pocketbook.
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which page ive written so many today i appologize im just curious what i said that was relavent to you
Nevermind i just saw it.
quote:Originally posted by Wangdo: MM...I see we're on the same page
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MM I figured you skipped over it... not that you were incapable... The extra twenty billion was in reference to Mary Hart? I expect her to sell them at some point... maybe? Dunno... Don't really care. It's the 44 billion before that that concerns me... He issued and then sold those shares into the market all while telling anyone he could that he was very concerned about the share price... This constitutes a lie on Frank's behalf. What concerns me is that he issues billions of shares without telling the current shareholders. I had great hopes for this company and Frank has done some really dishonest... maybe even illegal things in the last year and a half. As far as why some of us are here on this thread: This board used to be the last haven for honesty. We want to see that return. Simply calling me a basher is an easy way to discount my logic. An easy way to avoid the fact that I have been right each and everytime.
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In my opinion, Qbid is becoming one of the top 10 most despised stocks trading in the pinks at the present time...
If true? that is bad news for the PPS. And folks who think they are helping the company by all of the attacks on opposing views, are in reality hurting the company..
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quote:Originally posted by Ligge: Woohoooo Allstocks is turning into RB!
Or more like Raging BS.
What a wonderful waste of time reading this has been.
Whine, cry, bitch, whine, cry, bitch!
If a debate about censorship on a privately controlled board is the new direction of this thread someone please change the thread title and PM me to let me know so I can quit coming back.
If you were banned and feel you were done so wrongly... well, too bad. This is not a democracy and you do not pay for the right to be here. So why waste your time and mine filling up pages of useless posts of why we should give a crap. Unless, of course, you have an emotional attachment to something so insignificant as a message board.
I have never complained about a poster or a post on this board, but this is getting ridiculous.
Ligge, I agree
I came from RB because of all the BS. It seems that the DD and respect that we had enjoyed here has all but gone. I have been spending more time in lurk. I will continue to do so. IMO, this board is degenerating and becoming disgusting. I do my own DD and visit Q often and I know right where they’re at. If some one finds a board where we can go back to respect and DD PM me and I’ll be there. I don’t want any candy coated DD; just the raw info. either good or bad. Everyone has their own window on the universe, I believe that in the very near future we will be given something very positive but out of “left field”. All this rhetoric is just STUPID, but it does play into the hands of some. We all are edgy and anxious which is what some prey upon. So, QBID is a Scam, a POS and Crap? Just look at the progress in the past 2 months! If you can get around constantly looking at the pps, you would find a company making incredible strides. The hateful ones with their agendas will keep you focused on the pps. In the long run, THE PPS WILL TAKE CARE OF IT’S SELF!!! TW’s New York region replaced the Playboy Channel with QTN. Anyone have any idea how many subs Playboy had? TW thinks that Q would generate many more or they wouldn’t have done it! As New York goes, so goes the rest of TW. It’s just a matter of time. What would the investor community think when Q becomes profitable? Don’t look back look forward. All we see is expansion. New marketplaces means more subs which gets us to profitability and increasing profits. Look at what the company IS and not the pps. We are a non-reporting PINK and have been. Q would not have ordered a audit if they didn’t want to get off the pinks. Time takes time and we need to give Frank and Co. the time they need.
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this is the beauty of pinkies they are unpredictable and exciting.nobody likes losing money that is the real bottomline to all of this.i suspect that many who come to qbids thread to warn others or help them to see that this is a scam are in fact really just upset that they lost so much on this stock. this is my opinion and maybe im totally wrong. i think it is a great idea for some to start another thread if they want to help newbie investors and warn them of the scam that is going on called qtv. that way qtv or qbid can have two threads one for pumpers one for bashers and maybe a third strictly for facts and dd. that could be neat right? well im just happy enjoying this ride i like the drama it adds a bit of excitement to my life as lately things have been a bit boring for me. i know that if i were to sell right now it would occur to me wow i just lost a small fortune but being that i am training myself in the arts of patience i will hang on until this either goes up big or until it is really realized that this is a scam and i lose everything. i feel for those that have actually realized losses though as i know it has been a painful ride for many. even though i put way more into this stock than i ever intended to (30k) one of the bright sides to owning this is that i am not daytrading these shares so i havent lost a cent yet nor do i intend to.i actually hope to hold alot of my shares for the 5+ years duration that is when i expect a real payout on qbids stock. i hope many on this board one day hit one of these pinkies big time and are able to retire comfortably with their gamble.it is my dream to one day do this even though i know the odds are slim it is possible aint it?
good luck to you all lets keep the personal attacks to a minimum and try to keep it as our opinions and facts.oh yeah the occasional predictions are fun too i like those hehe. so feel free to say qbid is heading to .0001 with no bid and also 10$ a share with constant share buybacks. but lets remember to state this is in our opinion as that is really what it is unless you have inside info which i certainly dont.
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PT: "people can decide for themselves if they want to follow you stock gods that have nothing better to do then to hang out in the POS stocks as you call them, bragging about how smart you are and how much Bob will miss you if you are gone"
W: PERSONAL ATTACK! As usual.
PT: "this thread was set up to discuss what is happening with QBID."
W: This thread was started by Doctoall to pump QBID which is exactly what he and others are doing. Potential buyers must be warned.
PT: "we are sharing facts that we find."
W: You are rehashing old QBID information and raising outrageous possibilities. Fact is it had declined all the way into negative 4 digits.
PT: "you dont like that we have a civil conversation going on in here."
W: PERSONAL ATTACK! As usual!
PT: "you come here and waist our time belittling anyone who is invested in Qbid, Bob Frey and his mods, and bragging about how wise and wonderful you are."
W: PERSONAL ATTACK! All my references were to QBID and pumpers of QBID. All about the stock. If you are "belittled" it is because of your own errors in judgement. As far as my post re the banning is concerned, it was to try to prevent further injustices perpetuated by posters with a deleterious agenda.
PT: "you know something. if you where that wise and wonderful, you would not have to tell us, as we would see it in your actions and your behavior."
W: PERSONAL ATTACK! Again, you lower yourself to attacking someone personally, yet try to say you do not do so.
PT: "the greatest people on the face of this earth are among the most modest, and you are so far on the opposite side of that line."
W: PERSONAL ATTACK! Another of your ususal posts.
PT: "stop waisting pages of your dribble here. go start your own forum and those that actually want to hear your wisdom will follow."
W: PERSONAL ATTACK! TOTAL OF AT LEAST 6 IN ONE POST. TIME TO GET YOU BANNED?
-------------------- PT: "do not respond to posters you think may have an agenda. It is my belief and the companies that these people are somehow rewarded by responses. As difficult as this may seem, I feel this will help our cause in ridding these people from the boards."
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Okay i havent been here since the begining, only about a year now, and i agree that Frank hasent been quite honest with us the shareholders, but i also have seen that much of it has been the intrepretation of what Frank has said and what his PR's have said. You read too much into it you get pissed people, such as the audit from DJ. But if you dont read enough into it then there will be constant low morale. Unfortunately this stock has lost its excitement from when i first started when it ran from .003 to almost .01 ...
However if you have been here a long time as you say you have, i dont know much about you accept when you come in you trash everyone and a stock that i have put my money in. OF COURSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET DEFENSIVE. I dont know you, and as a matter of fact the only 2 people i really know and somewhat consider friends are BottomLinder and DigDough, and more recently DOC. You should know that first impressions last the longest, and if i have never seen you before and you bash people i know of course your going to get attacked and your info discounted.
The otherside is if you dont display your facts correctly, possibly you dont feel is neccessary but for amatures like me it is, then you have no baises for your arguement. What you just presented to me is great still needs work but it expained everything throughly. If you going to attack what people are obviously adament about then you should march in with as many facts as you can muster, wether you think its neccessary or not.
hehe, english class, your aruement needs as much support as you can get espcailly in a hostile environment. I never mind oposing opinions as long as there is some support. Not --- QBID IS A BAD INVESTMENT, IM YOUR SAVIOUR, VOTE FOR ME, (while i steal your lolly pop). But thanks again for your explainstions
quote:Originally posted by RiescoDiQui: MM I figured you skipped over it... not that you were incapable... The extra twenty billion was in reference to Mary Hart? I expect her to sell them at some point... maybe? Dunno... Don't really care. It's the 44 billion before that that concerns me... He issued and then sold those shares into the market all while telling anyone he could that he was very concerned about the share price... This constitutes a lie on Frank's behalf. What concerns me is that he issues billions of shares without telling the current shareholders. I had great hopes for this company and Frank has done some really dishonest... maybe even illegal things in the last year and a half. As far as why some of us are here on this thread: This board used to be the last haven for honesty. We want to see that return. Simply calling me a basher is an easy way to discount my logic. An easy way to avoid the fact that I have been right each and everytime.
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Now, Penny Trader, I have done exactly what you and others on this QBID thread have consistently done to others who posted contrary opinions on this thread. I have asked Bob Frey to ban YOU. I do hope others will join my request.
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You people are funny. What do you think invest $100.00 bucks and get $250,000 . Thats a dream if it happened. With these type's of stocks its one and a million. Spend what you can afford to lose... To bank on this stock your crazy...
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hey jen im getting hungry for some cheesecake hehe! tonight i feel like a chocolate coffee cheesecake with a warm mocha on the side hehe. cant wait to meet you all one day .
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Noah, I trade 3-9 stocks per week, I dump my losers with a stop loss system that fits my style..
I have previously stated I made a Ton of money on this stock on the main run, then had a nice play on one other run from .0032-.0087 that was my play the last time I made a decent hit on this thing..
To insinuate some of us traders are some how bagholders is ridiculas.. No trader worth his salt would hold while this thing plummetts down..
Investors? true investors would of cost averaged down on the slide...
I'll trade the heck out of it, if I see a run coming..
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No one really knows whats going to happen with this company. I am going to ride this to the top or to the bottom. If i lose i lose if i win i win... You only should invest what you can afford.
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Q is an expanding company both in product and scope. Accelerating city coverages. Recent worldwide interest is impressive. This consists of syndicated shows AND the entire signal. LOGO going beyond our boarders creates demand for Q by blazing the trail.
Q’s employee numbers are growing. People WANT to work for Q. An enthusiastic and vibrant work force. People are flocking to Q with new programming ideas.
The pps is in a disconnect from the company. Becoming transparent will help to resolve this.
New areas of opportunity have opened recently. Unforeseen revenue from the leasing of the studio. Revenue generated from NTI. Renting out the film library. Syndication, cable and internet. (The potential of Mary Hartman) Frank has a way of finding new opportunities for asset growth and network expansion.
Q has a growing asset base. The Burbank Studio. NTI The film library. The Gay Games VII and first right of refusal for Gay Games VIII. QTN itself.
The audit being complete means the next step(s) can be taken. Publishing the audit makes TMM a voluntary reporting company. A certified audit makes TMM a transparent company. Another “layer” of investors are waiting for the above. Resolving the “shell” issue with the SEC becomes far easer. The above paves the way to become Fully Reporting with the SEC. Another “layer” of investor is realized. The next step is to make application to an exchange. Just making an application to an exchange would invite another “layer”. Major investor groups and investment newsletters have been watching Q. Their time to act is close at hand. Q has the potential of becoming the next “Darling of Wall Street”.
I would not be invested in a company if:
Employees were being laid off while others were leaving for greener pastures. Cutting pay and benefits to its employees. A downtrodden work force.
It was selling its divisions and/or reducing the scope of others.
Selling assets.
Withdrawing from their historic marketplaces.
Increasing its debt to “get by” from previous profitability. Rescheduling its debt. Y/Y losses keep widening.
Not developing any new products.
Cuts advertising budget and its presence in its industry.
An increase of negative press from its industry and public media.
Vendors becoming hesitant doing business with the company.
Loss of company vision.
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What you said above about QBID is exactly what we have seen many on the CMKX thread say as well. Now they have a revoked stock and not traded anywhere. Whatever possibilities exist are with another quetionable company with 100% negative attributes and all past stock distributions are of other company stocks that are either completely worthless, not traded or are trading in the low negative 4 digits. In all probability, that is close to where QBID will end up.
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