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Screwball...

Nope...
This pissin contest as you say was started when I said "Is the sky falling" after your posts of gloom and doom...I don't think you've been invested here for a few years...I think that's BS...Apologize hahahahah....

The bro and dude crap is for kids so I assumed you were just off mommy's teets...The "I'm here to vent" comment comes at a time when good things are about to happen...

I already know the CD situation inside and out...so...glad you got your butt ruffled...
I'm enjoying jerking you around because I think you are here to bash...If not, and you have been an investor for a few years then where ya been boy...to vent all this time???...Why now when things are ready to move?

Your timing is indicative of basher entry into CNES cyberspace....Dude...Bro....I expect the rest of the bashers will be arriving this week...Maybe your just the scout....


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Originally posted by cnesscrew:
ive been invested for a few years now and all I have to show for my investment is dilution and a lower pps so I am here to vent bro. My right just like yours to pump. if that makes me a basher ok but pls check your facts out before giving me crap. I guess we can be each others medication if that is what you want

So are you willing to admit you were wrong about the CDs? after all that is what started this pissin contest with you telling me that I was wrong


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[Eek!] Game Over Boys, its a tie.
So lets get back to CNES, whats the chances of this baby touching the fours on Monday??

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Im done with him too. He cant even admit being wrong and aplogizing like a man and we can move on.
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Corkscrew...

You needed the last say ...hahahahah...Fine...
I said I'm not apologizing son...Your here to bash....No Mia culpa from me...Keep bashing and I'll keep jerking you around...If your OK with that then we have a deal...


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Im done with him too. He cant even admit being wrong and aplogizing like a man and we can move on.


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Big...
Would be nice...Let's just see how it moves after the PR for the FCC...Hoping there's additional good things happening that can push it...time will tell...

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[Eek!] Game Over Boys, its a tie.
So lets get back to CNES, whats the chances of this baby touching the fours on Monday??


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Bearcrow you have ZERO credibility if you can't admit you were wrong.

As of July 12, 2005, as a result of the above defaults, the holders of our secured convertible debentures and notes were entitled to pursue their rights to foreclose upon their security interest in all of our assets. In the event that the holders of our secured convertible debentures and notes foreclose upon their security interest in all of our assets, we could lose all of our assets, including our intellectual property and other technology associated with our H
- Net(TM)system, which would have a material and adverse effect on our business, prospects, results of operations and financial condition. In addition, the holders of our secured convertible debentures and notes were entitled to demand immediate repayment of the outstanding principal amounts of the debentures and notes and any accrued and unpaid interest. The cash required to repay such amounts would likely have to be taken from our working capital. Since we rely on our working capital to sustain our day to day operations and the development of our H-Net(TM)system, a default on the convertible debentures or notes could have a material and adverse effect on our business, prospects, results of operations or financial condition.

What now ? HUH? Will I get an apology?


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Originally posted by Bearclaw:
You nut case...the technology was never the collateral...hahahahaha....Heeee's Back hahaha
Belly Up hahahahahaha...


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Originally posted by cnesscrew:
Dude the technology was all used as collateral for the CDs so they can't sell it off if they go belly up. The CD will foreclose on the assets and sell them off.

Get your facts right before you call me a basher, brother.


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Originally posted by Nicholas:
You don't get rich listening to bashers.
I just bought another million shares at the new discounted price

Here's how I see it. They either get a contract or annouce news of a buyout. Don't doubt they will sell the technology if they go belly up.

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Heres another one you got wrong and misrepresented in your post. Why all the lies Bear? Do I threaten your pumper position?

"I don't mind the DD concerning the CD's...but the implication CNES is going belly up was a little out there...don't you think? "

My post:

Originally posted by cnesscrew:
I do not believe that CNES will go belly up. The AJW Group apparently really enjoys lending them money in exchange for super cheap shares which they then sell thereby diluting all of us. I'm sure Bob can get some more money from them :-)

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Screwball...hahahaha

Yah you threaten me...I'm shivering in my boots...ooooo!!!!!!hahahahahahah...Here's the belly up quote...this you screwball? You like this cut and paste stuff hey hahahahah...Tell your boss to send in the $10.00 an hour bashers and let you $6.50 an hour kids go play in the kitty litter...


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Dude the technology was all used as collateral for the CDs so they can't sell it off if they go belly up. The CD will foreclose on the assets and sell them off.

Get your facts right before you call me a basher, brother.

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Screwsballs...
So yah in this one you weren't bashing with belly up stuff...this one was slamming with the dreaded dilution...hahahahaha....Bring some of the big boys next week sonny...


Originally posted by cnesscrew:
I do not believe that CNES will go belly up. The AJW Group apparently really enjoys lending them money in exchange for super cheap shares which they then sell thereby diluting all of us. I'm sure Bob can get some more money from them :-)

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That is a reply to someone elses post who used the words "going belly up" not a post I initiated. The fact that you continue to try and twist everything to make me look bad tells me that you cant handle the truth Pops.

Take it all out of context and make it fit your agenda.

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What the hell is wrong with being upset and concerned about dilution Bear? Please explain why that makes anyone a basher.
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Screwball....

Finally came to me...You're CROWES from RB hahahahaha

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Hey grandpa, answer the question about dilution, if you can. Whats wrong with being pissed about being diluted 300% in he past two years?
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I can't prove im not CROWES so whats the point. More diversionary tactics so that you dont have to answer the tough questions after giving me crap. Step up
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Bearclaw - do ema favor and leave out all the name calling etc.

they have been saying ready for market since 2001. They have been in R&D for 10 years. they have spent 30M dollars. Excuse me of being skeptical.

Why do they need to do CD financing if the solution is so far advanced over everyone elses? If its so shyte hot why these toxic CDs?

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That is typical of someone who hasnt got a way to explain themselves without resorting to name calling and abusive behaviour. When challenged, they run.

They are also like to have both ways. This is the greatest technology out there (according to Bear) yet they cant (never have, by the way) get traditional financing. Why is that?

It is amusing to me that you call me a child while you yourself are acting like a 14 year old playground bully. If you want to talk to me like an adult (I believe I said that after the first time your lashed out at me) I'd be happy to communicate with you further.

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Posted by the Honorable Chopper...Just to give folks an idea when bashers show up...some symptoms to be aware of...Here is a post from the market watch board.

http://www.market watch.com/discussions/msgReader.asp?siteId=mktw&parentId=2&forumId=23&boardId=16272&msgId=56757

Rules for Successful Bashing:
1. Be anonymous
2. Use 10% fact. 90% suggestion. The facts will lend credibility to your suggestions.
3. Let others help you learn about the stock. Build rapport and a
support base before initiating your Bashing routine.
4. Enter w/ humor and reply to all who reply to you.
5. Use multiple ISP's, handles and aliases.
6. Use two (2) or more aliases to simulate a discussion.
7. Do not start with an all out slam of the stock. Build softly.
8. Identify your foes (Longs) and the boards "guru" Use them to
your advantage. Lead them do not follow their lead.
9. Only Bash until the tide/momentum turns. Let doubt carry it the
rest of the way.
10. Give the appearance of being open minded.
11. Be bold in your statements. People follow strength.
12. Write headlines in caps with catchy statements.
13. Pour it on as your position gains momentum. Not your personality.
14. Don't worry about being labeled a "Basher". Newbies won't
know your history.
15. When identified put up a brief fight, then back off. Return in an hour unless your foe is a weak in reasoning powers.
16. Your goal is to limit the momentum of the run. Not to tank the
company or create a plunge in the stock; be subtle and consistent.
17. Kill the dreams of profits, not the company or the stock.
18. Use questions to create critical thinking. Statements to
reinforce facts.
19. DO NOT LIE, NAME CALL or USE PROFANITY.
20. Encourage people to call the company. 99% won't. They'll take your word for claims made. If they do call you can always find something that is inaccurate in how they report their findings.
21. Discourage people from believing Press Releases.
Encourage them to call the company. They won't out of laziness.
22. If the companies history/PR's are negative constantly point to that. Compile a list of this data prior to beginning your efforts.
23. If the price rises blame it on the hype or the PR, temporary
mass reaction, the market, etc. Anything but the stock itself.
24. If other posters share your concerns, play on that and share theirs too.
25. Always cite low volume, even when it's not.
26. Three or four aliases can dominate a board and wear down the longs.
27. Bait the Longs into personal debates putting their
focus/efforts on you and not the stock or facts. Divert their attention from facts.
28. Promote other stocks that would-be investors can turn to
instead of the one your Bashing.
30. Do not fall for challenges on the "values" of what you are doing, it's a game and you are playing it with your own rules. --------------------------------------------------------------
Grade 'A' Basher:
If you post lots of old news, respond to all positive posts with a negative side. Never respond to being called a Basher, never post on another board with same alias. Can spend up to 80 hours a week Bashing a stock.

Grade 'B' Basher:
Very good way with words, always claims to be your "friend" taking the positive poster into confidence, never posts on another board, spends about 60 hours a week.

Grade 'C' Basher:
Spends less time than the others but is somewhat effective and gets a C grade due to getting excited when Bashers rules say not to get excited, spends about 40 hours a week.

Grade 'D' Basher:
Needs to learn the basics about being convincing when making a negative statement. Spends a good amount of time working the stock, maybe 20 hours a week.

Grade 'F' Basher:
A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows anything about stocks in general. The type that says a stock "sucks", but gives no rationale, shows up every so often but no regular schedule

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I actually didnt expect you to answer any of the questions because the answers dont fit your agenda which is to pump this stock and ignore the facts. i am happy that you have faith in CNES as I am sure it makes it easier to deal with the fact that it is worth less now than when you paid for it. It makes me laugh when i see you guys immediately start calling people basher just beacuse they have a different view than you. How very un-American of you.

it is impossible to prove one way or the other if I am a basher as you like to suggest which also fits your agenda. Cast doubt upon me by innuendo and supposition with hope that you can convince anyone that is listening that I am a kook. Well Bear, it makes no difference to me one way or the other. The rest of the board has seen you for what you are. If your only response to my questions are "ignore him hes a basher" or "go suck you mothers teet" then you are doing us both a disservice by refusing to enter into a mature, adult conversation.

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see you tomorrow by the way
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well, I tried to tell him to avoid the callout...

lol, 41 posts, all on the same thread--shameless! [Razz]

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Hey Buy...
I just got back from Tennessee knocking off undefeated Florida...wow man what a game...
I'm hoping for the same rush when this puppy all falls out beginning this week with the FCC approval...

Man I ran out of Thompson Boling Arena before they tore down the backboards...what a freekin zoo...adrenaline rush hahahahahaha...anyway.. no worries here things seem to be ready to go...I'm interested in what happens after the FCC...Drop me a PM sometime and we'll discuss this puppy...Go VOLS !!!!!!!!

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Come on Buy... Bear claims to be the protector of all posters by sniffing out the bashers with his infalliable nose yet he can't just talk to me like an adult after his "callout". So I suppose you'd rather I sit back and take his BS and lies when I can prove he is wrong about my posts? How in the world is that ME calling HIM out amigo? Thanks for the warning on big bad Bear though. I never should have responsded to someone who doesn't want to engage in a meaningful exchange, even if it is heated.

Where I post and how often is irrelevant to my worthiness as a person or a poster. That is the same BS Bear pulls by trying to avoid answering questions by using personal attacks instead. If you acn't answer the question: attack the poster.

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Originally posted by BuyTex:
well, I tried to tell him to avoid the callout...

lol, 41 posts, all on the same thread--shameless! [Razz]


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Guys can you please PM each other, I really don't find any information that you both have relevent. Please stop posting in this thread....

I don't need to read your fights.

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What are the chances of this going up after so much buzz about FCC approval. I might buy in 2M worth 0.0003-0.0004 if it starts to move.

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I wouldn't do that. It's priced at $0.0002 right now and I would buy at that price. I have 8 million total at the moment, planning to buy 2 more million on Monday for that price.

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Sorry I apologize. Im done.
quote:
Originally posted by Alek2:
Guys can you please PM each other, I really don't find any information that you both have relevent. Please stop posting in this thread....

I don't need to read your fights.


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quote:
Originally posted by cnesscrew:
Sorry I apologize. Im done.
quote:
Originally posted by Alek2:
Guys can you please PM each other, I really don't find any information that you both have relevent. Please stop posting in this thread....

I don't need to read your fights.


Then get a new name and figure out that you CAN sell collateral to cover a debt. If you ever owned a home you would know that.

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CNESscREW Bagclaw (bearclaw) has been pumping this stock for almost 1 year now. The company is a CD diluted pos. He has been saying FCC news for almost 1 year nothing yet. Not to mention he would call people from allstocks and tell them to buy as the stock was going down. He even said he had insider info on the company and knew when PR was coming.
In other words CNES is another diluted POS. All ths guys for it are down huge amounts of cash. Bearclaw number 1 because he bought at HOD the day it spiked. He wants to say your a paid pumper even when you provide him with DD saying this company isn't going anywhere. Just leave him and this thread alone because the Allstock bagholders will give you 1 star and get you banned. lol Look at what they did to Momo. And everyone knows Momo is making more money then all of them together.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bearclaw:
Posted by the Honorable Chopper...Just to give folks an idea when bashers show up...some symptoms to be aware of...Here is a post from the market watch board.

http://www.market watch.com/discussions/msgReader.asp?siteId=mktw&parentId=2&forumId=23&boardId=16272&msgId=56757

Rules for Successful Bashing:
1. Be anonymous
2. Use 10% fact. 90% suggestion. The facts will lend credibility to your suggestions.
3. Let others help you learn about the stock. Build rapport and a
support base before initiating your Bashing routine.
4. Enter w/ humor and reply to all who reply to you.
5. Use multiple ISP's, handles and aliases.
6. Use two (2) or more aliases to simulate a discussion.
7. Do not start with an all out slam of the stock. Build softly.
8. Identify your foes (Longs) and the boards "guru" Use them to
your advantage. Lead them do not follow their lead.
9. Only Bash until the tide/momentum turns. Let doubt carry it the
rest of the way.
10. Give the appearance of being open minded.
11. Be bold in your statements. People follow strength.
12. Write headlines in caps with catchy statements.
13. Pour it on as your position gains momentum. Not your personality.
14. Don't worry about being labeled a "Basher". Newbies won't
know your history.
15. When identified put up a brief fight, then back off. Return in an hour unless your foe is a weak in reasoning powers.
16. Your goal is to limit the momentum of the run. Not to tank the
company or create a plunge in the stock; be subtle and consistent.
17. Kill the dreams of profits, not the company or the stock.
18. Use questions to create critical thinking. Statements to
reinforce facts.
19. DO NOT LIE, NAME CALL or USE PROFANITY.
20. Encourage people to call the company. 99% won't. They'll take your word for claims made. If they do call you can always find something that is inaccurate in how they report their findings.
21. Discourage people from believing Press Releases.
Encourage them to call the company. They won't out of laziness.
22. If the companies history/PR's are negative constantly point to that. Compile a list of this data prior to beginning your efforts.
23. If the price rises blame it on the hype or the PR, temporary
mass reaction, the market, etc. Anything but the stock itself.
24. If other posters share your concerns, play on that and share theirs too.
25. Always cite low volume, even when it's not.
26. Three or four aliases can dominate a board and wear down the longs.
27. Bait the Longs into personal debates putting their
focus/efforts on you and not the stock or facts. Divert their attention from facts.
28. Promote other stocks that would-be investors can turn to
instead of the one your Bashing.
30. Do not fall for challenges on the "values" of what you are doing, it's a game and you are playing it with your own rules. --------------------------------------------------------------
Grade 'A' Basher:
If you post lots of old news, respond to all positive posts with a negative side. Never respond to being called a Basher, never post on another board with same alias. Can spend up to 80 hours a week Bashing a stock.

Grade 'B' Basher:
Very good way with words, always claims to be your "friend" taking the positive poster into confidence, never posts on another board, spends about 60 hours a week.

Grade 'C' Basher:
Spends less time than the others but is somewhat effective and gets a C grade due to getting excited when Bashers rules say not to get excited, spends about 40 hours a week.

Grade 'D' Basher:
Needs to learn the basics about being convincing when making a negative statement. Spends a good amount of time working the stock, maybe 20 hours a week.

Grade 'F' Basher:
A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows anything about stocks in general. The type that says a stock "sucks", but gives no rationale, shows up every so often but no regular schedule

Chopper is another CNES bagholder. He's more like holding a Truck. Lets call all of you guys CNES TRUCKHOLDERS because you sure have a ton of shares. lol
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quote:
Originally posted by cnesscrew:
That is typical of someone who hasnt got a way to explain themselves without resorting to name calling and abusive behaviour. When challenged, they run.

They are also like to have both ways. This is the greatest technology out there (according to Bear) yet they cant (never have, by the way) get traditional financing. Why is that?

It is amusing to me that you call me a child while you yourself are acting like a 14 year old playground bully. If you want to talk to me like an adult (I believe I said that after the first time your lashed out at me) I'd be happy to communicate with you further.

Bagclaw can't answer those questions because he knows nothing about this company. Only thing he knows is FCC news which will never come and if it does they will dilute into it. Bagclaw is 8- year old man who lives in Florida and sends women gifts over the mail to try to get them to buy into CNES. It worked with a woman I know but that's because she was sucked in by his stupid DD which hasn't pushed this stock at all!
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Nicholas- if the tech is securing the CDs and the CDs foreclose they CAN take the tech. I didnt say they couldnt sell it prior to foreclosure.
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Well son of a gun.... Hey everyone little momo is back as pital..... Or one of his lieutenants. I figured if pital kept on flapping his jaw I would figure out who he was. This kid just can't help from attacking respected board members.
You sure hold a grudge against board members that help to expose your pyramid scheme plans using the unsuspecting AllStocks members for a lonngggg time. Where is your side kick viqutorious these days anyway? Using multiple aliases like you? You and your group will try anything to bash AS board memebers including slander. Keep your personal Beef OFF the Board!!!
Just Pathetic.

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Any guesses on the PR date?
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DD from raging bull

23 Jan 2006, 01:05 PM EST
Msg. 45196 of 45197
Jump to msg. #
I called and talked to Luca and he said "they will not do a PR until they finish the financials and remove the E from the ticker".

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