quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: I hope you now realize that fatherof2 is a promoter who only cares about making CEO happy. He told the CEO of the company he can raise the funds for GRDX so they can get the money they need for what ever reason. Then now the day he posted it the first time they had some BS pr and the pps dropped like a rock. Now yesterday he posted PR will be released tommorow everyone buy now. So everyone bought and the stock closed huge in green yesterday. He then told people to hold on to shares or buy more at the bottom. The stock then gaps up huge and the BID even hit .02. The people sold and the stock dropped down. Now everyone is waiting for the news and guess what news they got? News that they are doing a r/s as of tommorow and now all these guys are in red atleast 50% and have to do deal with a r/s tommorow. That's how fatherof2 pays his followers. He doesn't care about your money. Get in and get out and dontlisten to his chart DD and al that crap. Everytime he post a chart the stock drops. Get in and getout thats the only way.....
FOT is not a "promoter". It's funny how a notorious "promoter" like yourself would even post that. Of course you'll now say that I'm in on it as well as Lil.
How many people got PM'd by Momo Coldmoney today to play his frontloaded picks??
No one. I do not make plays. I daytrade the plays posted here and on other boards. What is fatherof2 going to say? Ummmm Nice chart and talk about the macd LINE. Why is it the chart could not predict the stock would drop 83%. Didn't the chart show it was going to keep going up. In other words the chart means nothing. Fatherof2 get's all this DD and info from where? He get's called by companies to give his stock exposer. He does a good job on that. To bad he doesn't even post his plays on the site inwhich he is a mod of. Don't you find that weird? I sure do. He comes here and pumps while you buy in and he sell's his promo shares. Then gives you all this DD so yo ucan look towards the future while the stock get's halted by the SEC and even drops as he calls it. Trust me he get's shares for post on this board. I put money he will not even post tommorow. Was no where to be found today. If he really cared about you guys he would of told you this was going to happen.
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quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: Only reason why GRDX got volume yesterday was because of the news which was suppose to be released today. Being no news came out this morning the smart people sold out and took profit. Now everyone else is waiting for news to get out at .02+ Unless anymore sells come in I believe this is the support line for the stock above .01 MM's have to pretty much keep the pps up here since people dumped on them at .02 and below.
Lol...hmmm wonder what your motive is here One person cannot drive a stock down just like one person cannot drive a stock up. Personally I like where my position is at .0034. Like most here, I don't have my house on it so either this stock explodes up big tomorrow or I become a long term investor of the company. Either way, you can't shake my position cause I am not selling to you Posts: 1254 | Registered: Aug 2005
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You posted conflicting information stating you were in at the close today and then shortly after you stated the opposite. After being called out, you stated you do have money on this stock. I tend not to believe that as all of your negativity would only serve to wish the stock price down and anyone in their right mind would not take a position and then post all of the doom and gloom you have today. That is my opinion but it is obvious you have a angle here and it appears to be you want everyone to turn against FOT. Personally, FOT is not a fortune teller so unless you can predict perfect plays before they happen, it would be mighty big of you to claim you are the greatest and head back to the great momo site.
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Ok.....first of all. FatherOfTwo DID NOT post yesterday that news would be coming today. I believe that it was StockGranny and then fire that posted after her.... FOT got on only a couple of times after that AND.....ALSO STATED THAT HE WOULD BE ON BUSINESS IN NM FOR A FEW DAYS COMING BACK THIS EVENING! stating he would not be able to post much. He will be back tonight and sure he will give his two cents worth. NOW.........I know he still has shares....!!!! OF COURSE IT DROPPED! I read yesterday a lot of people were selling on the gap.....I for one sold some but, kept most as I said I would for the shell news...
NOW THAT WE ALL HAVE TO EXPLAIN OUR TRADING......ARE YOU HAPPY?!!!!!!!!
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best case scenario: 37000 shares 30 mill in assets, pps $800 or so 29600000, lol worst case, loose $500 if they dilute the hell out of this, worth the risk to even get to $30 pps? yup As most said this was a lottery ticket, don't expect to win, though this was looking good yesterday
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quote:Originally posted by Rules: You posted conflicting information stating you were in at the close today and then shortly after you stated the opposite. After being called out, you stated you do have money on this stock. I tend not to believe that as all of your negativity would only serve to wish the stock price down and anyone in their right mind would not take a position and then post all of the doom and gloom you have today. That is my opinion but it is obvious you have a angle here and it appears to be you want everyone to turn against FOT. Personally, FOT is not a fortune teller so unless you can predict perfect plays before they happen, it would be mighty big of you to claim you are the greatest and head back to the great momo site.
How do you believe I can bring this stock down? It's going to do a r/s tommorow. Don't you understand that? Don't you understand the ticker and pps will change? Don't you understand the CEO of this company did this to raise money for his company? Don't you understand that the promoter knew this was coming. You are blinded by your love for a person who doesn't even care enough to tell you a r/s is coming. I seen people bash captinnemo's face in when WFTV did a r/s... Why is it no one is upset with FO2. Sorry to see the die-hard FO2 fans got killed in this but I know he is planning his next move and you will fall for it again.
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Anyway. I'm in for the rest of the ride with you all and I know FOT is as well. He is a good, honest man....I have known him for quite a while and have traded along with him and a lot of others on this board. I don't appreciate the bashing and out right lies about him... Now I know coldmoney can not back up his claims about FOT and is making some pretty nasty accusations and must say I have agreed with some of what he had to say......(A few pages back), Now gloves off... Don't begin to make statements about someone on this board without backing it up......WON'T FLY HERE!!! See ya'!
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my biggest problem is that I did win...this morning I was up HUGE...
but due to my inexperience and believing the hype from a few of the members on the board I held onto my shares (obviously I was too greedy).
was in a meeting for a few hours this morning and afterwards found that all my winnings had evaporated and I was flirting with red. by the end of the day red became a reality.
anyway...
i am disappointed only in myself..."pigs get slaugtered" man is that ever true!
at least now I know what to do the next time I am in this situation (if there is a next time of course).
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quote:Originally posted by Jmoove: best case scenario: 37000 shares 30 mill in assets, pps $800 or so 29600000, lol worst case, loose $500 if they dilute the hell out of this, worth the risk to even get to $30 pps? yup As most said this was a lottery ticket, don't expect to win, though this was looking good yesterday
I don't understand how you come up with these crazy number's Just because a stock is expected to have 30m in asset doesn't mean the stock pps will increase. 1) They will have to come out with some great pr and stop selling insider shares. 2) They will also have to some how have to gain the trust of future investors because they have done a r/s. 3) For a investor like firefighter to call the company an speak to someone and they tell him "PR is to be released tommorow (today) or the next day and the "pr" IS A R/S how do you think that will sit with investors? We will have to see if PR comes out tommorow with the new symbol if they don't then the CEO had this planned out prefectly.....
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This is what Mo does best: create FUD--fear, uncertainty and doubt. Clyde, sorry, maybe I should've been more explicit. Yes, this is Mo's latest alias--couldn't be more clear. Thought I settled that last night, lol...
What's interesting, though? And this *is* a new wrinkle: notice the accusations that FoT is a promoter? Why would Mo suddenly shift his attack on FoT to include the promo-salesman angle?
Could it be Mo just learned about promos? Could it be some unscrupulous promoter learned about Mo?
hmmm....
Mo, given our past, I gotta ask: Who you promo-ing for? If you won't own up to that, why don't you explain to the nice folks how these promos work?
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Haha-I would actually like to know: it's somewhat interesting. Besides, I thought you were leaving amigo? You have no ability here anymore, we spot you everytime and then you have to go get a new name...lalalala and it starts all over again. Go become an actual member of the workforce and do something!
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Did you notice the "lol"? Man, you don't even have a sense of humor, I lost money, oh well, no sense in blaming anyone or trying to explain why it happened, move on
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quote:Originally posted by prefect: my biggest problem is that I did win...this morning I was up HUGE...
but due to my inexperience and believing the hype from a few of the members on the board I held onto my shares (obviously I was too greedy).
was in a meeting for a few hours this morning and afterwards found that all my winnings had evaporated and I was flirting with red. by the end of the day red became a reality.
anyway...
i am disappointed only in myself..."pigs get slaugtered" man is that ever true!
at least now I know what to do the next time I am in this situation (if there is a next time of course).
Prefect do not even read what these people have to say. They make these outrages PPS so try to get people to hold while they wait for the volume to dry up and sell. Take profit while you can. You saw what this stock did last time. I found it very weird that the first time SCHB was selling a tond of shares on the bid and then yesterday she was upticking up 5k orders. MM know when a r/s is coming thus they allow the pps t ofly to attract more buyers so they can hit them hard on the ask to get rid of there shares.. Your right I maybe can not prove what I said about Fatherof2 but where else do you think he get's all this info from and he always seems to have plays lined up one after another. That's what promoters do. If Fatherof2 is a promoter big chance he got promo shares which means the o/s had to go up. Check the o/s of this stock 1 year or and compare it to the o/s when he first posted it. I bet you they aren't the same. Isn't very hard to spot a promoter. He pumps here to get your volume into the play. Doesn't even post them on his board why is that?
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You just need to know how these shells work. When there is a reverse merger when a private company buys a shell and reverse merges into that company then they need to make their money back. So usually they dilute the shares soon after taking over to pay for the buyout and also to raise capital. Because why go public if not to raise capital.
Now when they finish diluting to pay for everything and make the money they need then they do a reverse split to where they want the stock to be and they are off and running. This is not something a few of these do. All of them do it. It would be stupid to give people (Shareholders) your company for nothing. The reason you go public is to raise capital. Just with these shell buyouts where the bypass the IPO process they not only need to raise capital but also pay off the debt of the buyout.
Thats why the hype is the play. The rest is risk because the only companies that go this route is small-caps that would have a hard time getting through the SEC - IPO process. So now all you can hope for after the r/s is if you hold long the company can make it without having to dilute even further. Thats why the beginning process should always be in and out until the dust settles.
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LOl, for those who didn't like my posts please give me 1 stars as I find it funny that people even use this. Like that is suppose to keep me from having an opinion about bashers! Lol
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Ok. Maybe now we can get back to figuring out what is going on with this stock. They are having a name and sybolchange. They are also havong a R/S tomorrow. Yet, one thing remains: the assets. If there are less shares it could mean one of two things: (IMHO) 1) they are a paper stock making machine and are going into full gear for the next round tomorrow or 2) They are going to hold these shares closely so that the pps does actually go up into the crazy numbers realm.
Bet: they are going to hold thier share tight and not only will it be difficult to get in, it will be harder than geting into Goggle right now. (anyone have a spare $300.00 per share lying around?...yeeeeeaah, exactly) I think my lottery ticket just got a whole lot more interesting at COB today.
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quote:Originally posted by whiteschmuck: You guys think right after the R/S it's a good buy time?
It's the best time. But after a r/s the PPS usually goes down because bagholders ten to sell out. So might want to wait awhile. This was just a plot to raise money and it worked. Thank god I was not caught in it.
For someone not caught in it, you sure have spent a lot of time paying attention to it the past 24 hours. Nothing useful to do with your time?
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quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: Only reason why GRDX got volume yesterday was because of the news which was suppose to be released today. Being no news came out this morning the smart people sold out and took profit. Now everyone else is waiting for news to get out at .02+ Unless anymore sells come in I believe this is the support line for the stock above .01 MM's have to pretty much keep the pps up here since people dumped on them at .02 and below.
At least now I know why you have been hanging around. You have a grudge against FO2. Suddenly it makes sense. It is sad, but it makes sense.
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quote:Originally posted by Ric: You just need to know how these shells work. When there is a reverse merger when a private company buys a shell and reverse merges into that company then they need to make their money back. So usually they dilute the shares soon after taking over to pay for the buyout and also to raise capital. Because why go public if not to raise capital.
Now when they finish diluting to pay for everything and make the money they need then they do a reverse split to where they want the stock to be and they are off and running. This is not something a few of these do. All of them do it. It would be stupid to give people (Shareholders) your company for nothing. The reason you go public is to raise capital. Just with these shell buyouts where the bypass the IPO process they not only need to raise capital but also pay off the debt of the buyout.
Thats why the hype is the play. The rest is risk because the only companies that go this route is small-caps that would have a hard time getting through the SEC - IPO process. So now all you can hope for after the r/s is if you hold long the company can make it without having to dilute even further. Thats why the beginning process should always be in and out until the dust settles.
Thank you RIC for that. Now the last sentence is that is important and everyone seems to be missing. That's why I tell them get in and get out. You see you are more knowledgeable then F02 who can not take the time to let his followers know a r/s will have to come to complete the shell. Instead he feeds them all the good things and doesn't tell them about what has to happen.
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quote:Originally posted by corndo: Ok. Maybe now we can get back to figuring out what is going on with this stock. They are having a name and sybolchange. They are also havong a R/S tomorrow. Yet, one thing remains: the assets. If there are less shares it could mean one of two things: (IMHO) 1) they are a paper stock making machine and are going into full gear for the next round tomorrow or 2) They are going to hold these shares closely so that the pps does actually go up into the crazy numbers realm.
Bet: they are going to hold thier share tight and not only will it be difficult to get in, it will be harder than geting into Goggle right now. (anyone have a spare $300.00 per share lying around?...yeeeeeaah, exactly) I think my lottery ticket just got a whole lot more interesting at COB today.
To bad 1) You are in red in the stock because of the pps it closed 2) They are doing a r/s which means your shares are worth even less 3) And you have to depend even more on the public to buy up this company ir order for you to break even...
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quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: ......... I am not in pre-k ........
Couldn't tell that from here. Please tell us again how wise and smart and right you were. We are all dying to hear it. I for one hope to be like you one day.
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quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: This is what a member of this site just pm'ed me ------------------------------------------------- hey cold...
yep totally believe it...
this is the third "pick" of that jackass's I have followed. First was ITGJ which has done NOTHING in the last month. Second was IWWD which r/s'd out of nowhere two days after he picked it and now GRDX.
Really GRDX was my fault I was up 240%+ and I got greedy. Now I know...
Currently I am down about 50% on GRDX I am guessing I should just preserve my capital, sell and move on.
Or perhaps I will just let what I have left ride and see what happens.
He always talks about "making money for everyone" I guess that's true if you aren't greedy like myself. I just don't have enough experience I guess... When people like FO2 or lil say they think it can go higher I guess I put too much faith in their assessment..
Well now I know...
Thanks for being the only realistic person on the board. We need more of those. ------------------------------------------------- Oh you guys can keep taking my stars away. I am not in pre-k where it matters how many I have. You are taking them away because I am talking about the times we are in and because all of "us" are still stock in the stock. Some of you like kywee have 15k dollars in a stock and some played it safe and only picked up a few shares.
DOH!
How easy is it to get one of your zombies to PM what you want, lol?
Or, for that matter, use of your million-alias-disguises to post to yourself...?
Anyway, as usual, you ignore *my* questions, nomi-ugly.
Play/Buy at your own risk. No one should be trusted here. Some stocks are tru winners other just pump up and group plays. Whom to believe?
I started to do lots of my own DD and started my own rule, 100% profit then sell 50% of my shares, that breaks me even, then let the other 50% ride the rise, then I sell if I see it going down.
I'm careful with stocks where Members state they e-mail directly with the CEO or accountant, be careful, THIS PENNYLAND known for making some rich and others cry. Including myself, had good rides and bad ones. I would say the last two months I had a profit of 450%, but I went with my own gutt feeling and DD, not all my picks have been winners, but last two months have been steady and nice.
FYI I have not been in any of those one day miracles, all my profits have been on stocks based on news and charts.
Good luck to all no one is to blame here!!
I think you can see what I think will go up at least in the next 10 days, no one is saying they spoke with the CEO or a paid pumper....
check out AMNI for yourself.
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quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: This is what a member of this site just pm'ed me ------------------------------------------------- hey cold...
yep totally believe it...
this is the third "pick" of that jackass's I have followed. First was ITGJ which has done NOTHING in the last month. Second was IWWD which r/s'd out of nowhere two days after he picked it and now GRDX.
Really GRDX was my fault I was up 240%+ and I got greedy. Now I know...
Currently I am down about 50% on GRDX I am guessing I should just preserve my capital, sell and move on.
Or perhaps I will just let what I have left ride and see what happens.
He always talks about "making money for everyone" I guess that's true if you aren't greedy like myself. I just don't have enough experience I guess... When people like FO2 or lil say they think it can go higher I guess I put too much faith in their assessment..
Well now I know...
Thanks for being the only realistic person on the board. We need more of those. ------------------------------------------------- Oh you guys can keep taking my stars away. I am not in pre-k where it matters how many I have. You are taking them away because I am talking about the times we are in and because all of "us" are still stock in the stock. Some of you like kywee have 15k dollars in a stock and some played it safe and only picked up a few shares.
DOH!
How easy is it to get one of your zombies to PM what you want, lol?
Or, for that matter, use of your million-alias-disguises to post to yourself...?
Anyway, as usual, you ignore *my* questions, nomi-ugly.
Oh I will not ignore you Buytex. Being I am not nomi_ugly I have nothing to hide. It's very hard to prove what you said is either correct or incorrect but I will tell you one thing which i know to be a fact. Fatherof2 is a promoter/ paid pumper. You know it as well but him being your buddy and all you will not admit it. He will pay for all he has done to his folowers and hopefully you guys open your eyes and stop playing his plays. Appears he attracts new members all the time. It is nothing personal because I have never seen nor spoke to him but he pm'ed me and asked me to help him run ADDI which I guess is his new pump and dump. He almost always seems to disapper when ever a r/s happens or his stock get's halted by the SEC. My question is why BASH nemo when his stock did a r/s but not bash F02 when his plays are known to be r/s and SEC halt machines..
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C'mon, 'lex, 'splain to Lucy and the folks how a promo works...
You want me to explain it to you because you don't know how it works? Well here is how it works..
1) A CEO of a rep of a company would contact a company which could bring exposer to there company. 2) The CEO pays the promoter (pumper) based on the services he/she want's for his company. 3) Promoters get paid the most if they bring volume into the stock and my guess that is what FO2 is paid to do 4) Promoters get paid either in cash or shares which means they would have to sell the shares inorder to get paid (Do you see right there why promoters are bad) 5) Now to spot a promoter CEO has to give them shares which would inturn increase the o/s of the stock so it may be mistaken for diluation but it's really going to a person not a MM. 6) Now fatherof2 comes on here and say's I have a really good stock for you they are expected to make XYZ, chart looks good, low float blah blah what ever would attract investors. 7) Now the public comes in and buys and the CEO either sell's his shares to the public along with the promoter or the promoter sells his shares while the CEO waits for enough money to be in the stock for him to later r/s it. 8) So now all investors get screwed because they hold to long and daytraders run the pps up and dump at higer prices. Promoters make money and chances are will have another job when needed and everyone blames MM's and bashers for why the stock goes down..
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Is there any way to have this basher removed from the forum. I hate having to sift through crap in order to read the good stuff. Wash repeat rinse........Cold is here to help us lol. Doom and Gloom people........sell before you lose your soul. I kinda see FOT as the Priest and Cold as the Devil lol. Go away Satan.....this is a GRDX church.
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Have your PM'ing bend over buddy PM me myself. If you are going to begin pointing fingers.....POINT THEM AT ME BIG BOY.... Got something to say..BRING IT ON!
Read the last few pages.....ALSO READ BACK WHEN THE STOCK WAS AT .004! That is when the R/S issue was posted! DAYS AGO!!!! THE PPS WENT UP AFTER THE R/S ISSUE WAS ADDRESSED! People bought in knowing the R/S was coming....IT WENT UP 250% AFTER THAT!
So......now perhaps thank, Stockgranny, Fire and FOT for their findings......IT WENT UP!!!!!!!250%
and Mr. PM'er! It "is" your fault for not getting out.....STOCKS DIP, I for one thought it would go back up after the Gap up......I was looking for .05.......Just like a lot of others......DIDN'T HAPPEN! Should have sold some at 240% is right.....I Did! Have more left for later as well!
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C'mon, 'lex, 'splain to Lucy and the folks how a promo works...
You want me to explain it to you because you don't know how it works? Well here is how it works..
1) A CEO of a rep of a company would contact a company which could bring exposer to there company. 2) The CEO pays the promoter (pumper) based on the services he/she want's for his company. 3) Promoters get paid the most if they bring volume into the stock and my guess that is what FO2 is paid to do 4) Promoters get paid either in cash or shares which means they would have to sell the shares inorder to get paid (Do you see right there why promoters are bad) 5) Now to spot a promoter CEO has to give them shares which would inturn increase the o/s of the stock so it may be mistaken for diluation but it's really going to a person not a MM. 6) Now fatherof2 comes on here and say's I have a really good stock for you they are expected to make XYZ, chart looks good, low float blah blah what ever would attract investors. 7) Now the public comes in and buys and the CEO either sell's his shares to the public along with the promoter or the promoter sells his shares while the CEO waits for enough money to be in the stock for him to later r/s it. 8) So now all investors get screwed because they hold to long and daytraders run the pps up and dump at higer prices. Promoters make money and chances are will have another job when needed and everyone blames MM's and bashers for why the stock goes down..
The end
Nemo? o my, you are skating close to the edge tonight, eh?
You're NOT nomi? oooo, geez, ....
What a dangerous web we weave, when first we practice to deceive...
Funny...you spell just like nomi, you sound just like momo, you ramble just like....YOU!
but OK...
Now, answer this: how long, typically, does it take for one of these "promo" plays to work out?
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