The reason why I like this company is that they are a pink sheet about to get filled with assets…..The current owner of GRDX is going to “give” a large portion of stock to the new owners and keep a certain percentage of shares for his own personal portfolio, while spinning all the current assets into a new company of which we as GRDX shareholders will receive a Dividend in the new company, while maintaining all our shares of the newly filled shell.
To me, this means that they quickly figured out it was cheaper to acquire some pink she et shell (providing the current owner with a small percentage of shares to keep), fill it with their own assets and obtain their own private financing, than it would be to have an IPO, where the investment bankers pocket a large percentage of the potential offering and proceeds.
In the second pr.... they announce that the current GRDX assets will be cleared out and put into another company. This is because the WHA wants a clean shell without any other baggage to have to deal with! I think that the team owners do not want any other entities, like golf or real estate, to compete with their financing.
Now, everyone knows that the NHL has agreed to a new owners/players contract…
However, how much of a pay cut did the players have to take??? There are going to be a lot of star players upset about losing so much $$$ and could easily be swayed to move if the dollar is right. On top of that, there are plenty of smaller markets dying to get a professional sports team. This is just the start of the new league and may take a year or two to become viable, but they have already done it once before and they can do it again. And with a notable celebrity player as the new commissioner.. Namely the Golden Jet himself… Mr. Bobby Hull…. There will be plenty of investors that he will have access to help get this thing launched!
Posted by Jmoove on :
I WAS RIGHT!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
http://www.primezone.com/newsroom/?d=79422 The World Hockey Association and The U.S. Pro Golf Tour to Merge With Park Hill Capital II, Inc. to Create a Publicly Traded Sports Marketing and Management Company NEW YORK, June 6, 2005 (PRIMEZONE) -- Park Hill Capital II, Inc., a U.S. public company soon to be publicly trading on a U.S. exchange, announced today that after several months of confidential negotiations, it will acquire the World Hockey Association and the U.S. Pro Golf Tour to create a complete professional sports marketing and management company to be renamed Major League Sports Corporation. Under the terms of the acquisition agreement, the company will issue fourteen million common shares to acquire both companies and will complete an initial private placement and public financing of up to $60,000,000 with the services of Finkelstein Capital Inc. of Montreal and Westminster Securities Corporation, a New York Stock Exchange Member. The World Hockey Association first took the sports world by surprise in 1972 launching a very successful attack on the National Hockey League (NHL) by attracting the superstars of the time to play in the new league where a mutual respect of owners, players and fans reigned. This new corporate and financing structure will enable the WHA to launch its operation and effectively revive the sport of professional hockey, with a minimum of six teams in cities yet to be announced, in time for the 2005 and 2006 season. Hockey Hall of Famer Bobby Hull is at the center stage of this rebirth serving as the new league's commissioner. Mr. Hull and his associates bring an abundance of hockey experience together with a refined business model strategically aligned with the economics of today's professional sport industry. With the financial backing of investors in place, the WHA is in a unique position to attract star players, like in its previous life when Wayne Gretzky, Mike Gartner, Gordie Howe, Paul Henderson, Rejean Houle, Norm Ullman and Frank Mahovlich, all played for the league. "After already receiving hundreds of current NHL, AHL and other league player inquiries, we expect that a good number of both star players and up and comers will join us in this new and exciting rebirth of both the WHA and the sport of professional hockey. We believe they will welcome this new league, one that respects fans, players, shareholders, sponsors and perhaps most importantly, the integrity of the game," said Richard Smith, President of the WHA. www.worldhockeyassociation.net The business model of the WHA includes plans to expand over the next 5 years with up to 16 franchises in North America and 16 in Europe. Revenue sharing between home and away teams will be implemented and corporate sponsorship will play a significant role in bringing professional hockey back to the fans.
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
Grand Lux, Inc. Signs Letter of Intent to Purchase World Hockey Association Corporation ORLANDO, FL -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 07/18/2005 -- Grand Lux Inc. (OTC: GRDX), today announced that it has signed an letter of intent (LOI) with World Hockey Association Corporation to purchase the company for stock. Upon completion, the present board of directors of Grand Lux, Inc. will resign and be replaced by the directors of World Hockey Association, which includes among others R. (Butch) Goring and Robert Marvin Hull. Grand Lux, Inc. will be spinning out all current assets into Marinas International Inc. and will provide Grand Lux, Inc. shareholder a one (1) share dividend of Marinas International Inc., for every ten (10) shares of GRDX. The Marinas International Inc. new symbol and dates will be announced in the near future as they become available. About Grand Lux, Inc. Grand Lux, Inc. is a company that focuses on upscale real estate development around the world. Its emphasis is on building marinas for large yachts, being 160 feet and above, and developing and pre-selling real estate whether condos or villas to the yacht owners. The benefits of our company offerings are manifold. It is a recession-proof industry and many yacht owners have already expressed a strong interest in purchasing berths in the marinas. Thus, appropriate real estate will be developed to meet their needs.
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
I'm buying. Looks like the MM's are short on shares. Should take off like a rocket.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
LOL.....Good call JMoove....LOL
Nice Pick FatherOftwo....Like what I'm reading.. You're right..this could definately FLY HUGE! I'm IN!
Posted by jakeo on :
already up 50%- what u buy in @ FoT?
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
.01.... 60K shares.... it jumped to .012 immediately after it filled... they have ZERO shares to sell...
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by Jmoove: I WAS RIGHT!
You got the groove Jmove.
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
I've got 90,000
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Bid UP! GO MAN GO!
Should break the 2's EASY!
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
only 30,000 here
Posted by pensandoenti67 on :
got 60K thanks FOT
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by jakeo: already up 50%- what u buy in @ FoT?
It is up that much because they closed it at the bid yesterday when the ask was .01!
Posted by Kevin from NYC on :
FoT, you still in ICMH?
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
Kevin.. Yes...
Posted by Kevin from NYC on :
thanks Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Hey MM....It's gonna' move nice..... Setting off volume alerts as we type. Gonna' make a sweeeet candle on an already nice chart!
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
What do you think this will get up to? .05?
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
UP 71% today ON LITTLE VOLUME! You go FOT.....You are da' MAN! LET'S GET THE 2's.....Wait till the big volume comes in! WHOOOOO-HOOO! Jmoove....did you get any?
Posted by acharm on :
I'm in. Thanks all!
Posted by jordanreed on :
got me a little
Posted by Jmoove on :
finally filled at .012, tried for .01 at open, ask even went there fore a brief moment, after fot's order bumped it, and i didnt get filled
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
Are you in Jmoove?
Posted by OTCBB_Trader on :
I am in at .012, couldn't wait for .01
Posted by Jmoove on :
got 80k
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
Grand Lux, Inc. will be spinning out all current assets into Marinas International Inc. and will provide Grand Lux, Inc. shareholder a one (1) share dividend of Marinas International Inc., for every ten (10) shares of GRDX. The Marinas International Inc. new symbol and dates will be announced in the near future as they become available. Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
L2 ask:
SGMS @ .012 NITE @ .015 SCHB @ .015
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
This is what happens when a pink sheet gets filled with some assets!
Posted by Jmoove on :
i did some reading last night on this after microcaptrade spit this out, had an order in after reading the two prs above. And for all that think this is a group pick, its not, FOT has found a gem of a co here.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
nice DD FOT and yes Jmoove The PR's are excellent..and It is a wonderful Pick.
Posted by THE SHNAKER ATTACKER on :
l2's anyone ??
Posted by Jmoove on :
how long of a hold do you think FOT? Lil? im thinking 3-4weeks maybe longer? thoughts?
Posted by Jmoove on :
they just filled 600k at the bid, hmmm
Posted by doubleS on :
.008 wow some profit taking
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I'm looking to hold this for a bit....Hockey season is upon us...The Pr's are HOT! along with this.
This is what happens when a pink sheet gets filled with some assets!
and this..
Grand Lux, Inc. will be spinning out all current assets into Marinas International Inc. and will provide Grand Lux, Inc. shareholder a one (1) share dividend of Marinas International Inc., for every ten (10) shares of GRDX. The Marinas International Inc. new symbol and dates will be announced in the near future as they become available.
It's going to explode in MHO! I'm liking it better and better! I think it's just a matter of a day or two before it gets noticed by everyone...Great find Jeff!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
Over the last few days of my doing research, I spoke with some WHA people and have been told that the WHA DD of the GRDX shell is nearing completion and news of the closing will come out in the coming weeks.
They are planning on around 10-15 franchises with a franchise fee cost of about $4-6 million per team.
Added to that, the O/S count of GRDX is appx 20-30 million, once closed and filled with assets, this will bring tremendous value to the GRDX shareholder. Add to that a stock dividend for the Marina International company, it is a double win situation!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Holy crap FOT.....If you do the math....When they close the deal fill the shell..It's looking at about a buck a share....Is that right? That's what I'm coming up with..Great DD and thanks again!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
10 teams @ $4 million per team is $40 Million
divide by the O/S count of 20-30 million and you get $1.33-$2.00 per share!
I can wait a couple weeks and let them do their business! SPRL.... was dead quite before it was filled and ran huge!
Posted by jakeo on :
hey hey hey just put my order in
Posted by Jmoove on :
Hmm, the way i read the Jul. 18th, looking at it again, is that it will be in effect a r/s? they will trade under a new symbol, grdx will no longer exist, and for every 10 shares we will have 1 share of the new co?
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Press Release Source: Grand Lux, Inc.
Grand Lux, Inc. Signs Letter of Intent to Purchase World Hockey Association Corporation Monday July 18, 8:00 am ET
ORLANDO, FL--(MARKET WIRE)--Jul 18, 2005 -- Grand Lux Inc. (Other OTC:GRDX.PK - News), today announced that it has signed an letter of intent (LOI) with World Hockey Association Corporation to purchase the company for stock. Upon completion, the present board of directors of Grand Lux, Inc. will resign and be replaced by the directors of World Hockey Association, which includes among others R. (Butch) Goring and Robert Marvin Hull. ADVERTISEMENT
Grand Lux, Inc. will be spinning out all current assets into Marinas International Inc. and will provide Grand Lux, Inc. shareholder a one (1) share dividend of Marinas International Inc., for every ten (10) shares of GRDX. The Marinas International Inc. new symbol and dates will be announced in the near future as they become available.
About Grand Lux, Inc.
Grand Lux, Inc. is a company that focuses on upscale real estate development around the world. Its emphasis is on building marinas for large yachts, being 160 feet and above, and developing and pre-selling real estate whether condos or villas to the yacht owners. The benefits of our company offerings are manifold. It is a recession-proof industry and many yacht owners have already expressed a strong interest in purchasing berths in the marinas. Thus, appropriate real estate will be developed to meet their needs.
Safe Harbor Forward-Looking Statements
Statements contained in this release that are not strictly historical are "forward-looking" statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended. The forward-looking statements are made based on information available as of the date hereof, and the company assumes no obligation to update such forward-looking statements. Editors and investors are cautioned that such forward-looking statements invoke risk and uncertainties and the company's actual results may differ from these forward-looking statements. Such risks and uncertainties include but are not limited to demand for the company's products and services, our ability to continue to develop markets, general economic conditions, our ability to secure additional financing for the company and other factors that may be more fully described in reports to shareholders and periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Contact: Contact: Jonathan McPherson 10151 University Blvd. Orlando, Florida 32617 Phone: 212-561-0762
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by Jmoove: Hmm, the way i read the Jul. 18th, looking at it again, is that it will be in effect a r/s? they will trade under a new symbol, grdx will no longer exist, and for every 10 shares we will have 1 share of the new co?
GRDX as it is now will be completely evacuated and moved to a new company which you will receive a stock dividend for. The WHA will obtain GRDX and place thier assets into an empty shell! The value of the shell will go from essentially zero to the value of the WHA as an entity....
This is just like the Elvis Assets into SPEA... One day it was trading around .003 and the next it went to over $10.00.......because the shell had the value of the assets.
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
JMOOVE... it is a dividend!
You will still hold ALL your GRDX shares (which will hold all the WHA assets)... but as a bonus for becoming an investor, they are rewarding you 1 share of a spin off company (Marina International) for every 10 shares of GRDX that you own!
Posted by OMGOMG on :
Appears to me another play in which we have to wait 3 months for a 10% uptick. Not to mention a pink sheet which means the spread can stay this wide. Fatherof2 why don't you go take care of your kids and leave the pick making up to someone who does it the correct way. In other words YOUR PLAYS SUCK...
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
quote:Originally posted by FatherOfTwo: JMOOVE... it is a dividend!
You will still hold ALL your GRDX shares... but as a bonus for becoming an investor, they are rewarding you 1 share of a spin off company for every 10 shares of GRDX that you own!
That's the way I read it; this doesn't look like a R/S it is a dividend...
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by OMGOMG: Appears to me another play in which we have to wait 3 months for a 10% uptick. Not to mention a pink sheet which means the spread can stay this wide. Fatherof2 why don't you go take care of your kids and leave the pick making up to someone who does it the correct way. In other words YOUR PLAYS SUCK...
Hi MoMO... with that Born on date... you are still an infant here!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by OMGOMG: Appears to me another play in which we have to wait 3 months for a 10% uptick. Not to mention a pink sheet which means the spread can stay this wide. Fatherof2 why don't you go take care of your kids and leave the pick making up to someone who does it the correct way. In other words YOUR PLAYS SUCK...
What A D BAG! What's the matter MoMo have you running to A/S's cus he needs to take your minds off of his GRLZ pick yesterday...GO AWAY. THIS ONE'S GONNA' PLODE!
GO back to your hole you RAT!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I mean My GOD! It's like "My ***** is bigger than your *****" GIve me a break..... If you had any form of intelligence you'd see this is a great buy.
I'm in...And I'll be laughing at yur' a$$ all the way to the bank. What am I telling you for....You no doubt bought it! LOL
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by OMGOMG: Appears to me another play in which we have to wait 3 months for a 10% uptick. Not to mention a pink sheet which means the spread can stay this wide. Fatherof2 why don't you go take care of your kids and leave the pick making up to someone who does it the correct way. In other words YOUR PLAYS SUCK...
Momo strikes again. Why don't you and BigT go back to your scam pickers board.
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
By the way for the newbies, Momo and BigT post negative remarks about someone looking for others to post the same. They send you a PM inviting you to their board. In other words, they are recruiting for members.
Posted by Jmoove on :
it just sounds too good to be true, im trying to find the holes, not doubting you FOT :-)
Posted by Along4theRide on :
I am just trying to understand what omgomg stands for? What Oh My God Oh My God my mom made me a b&%ch!!
I just don't understand why people are hating on FOT, everyone here is a grown man\women and can make their on decisions. I happen to appreciate the DD that he does and follow it up with my own.
BTW I am in with 50K Thanks for the leg work FOT
Posted by xj-ken on :
anyone know the realtime L2's? i got an order in for 65000 waiting to fill.
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: I mean My GOD! It's like "My ***** is bigger than your *****" GIve me a break..... If you had any form of intelligence you'd see this is a great buy.
I'm in...And I'll be laughing at yur' a$$ all the way to the bank. What am I telling you for....You no doubt bought it! LOL
I know mines bigger than yours. Posted by lilpennypincher on :
You said it Along4theRide....I appreciate all of his hard work. HAVE YOU SEEN THE DD ON THIS!?
And Jmoove..I understand...you're just doing your job..it's all good. SO AM I! LOL
I think this one has just never gotten the spot light it deserves....I'm holding for the good stuff!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by Jmoove: it just sounds too good to be true, im trying to find the holes, not doubting you FOT :-)
I confirmed that the first deal that was the joint venture with the US Golf was cancelled because it was not in the best interest for the WHA to continue. They would not get that much cash out of the deal to start up thier league.
They decided that it was alot cheaper to find a pink sheet shell and fill it. And they don't have the headache of other people/companies to deal with
Posted by Jmoove on :
they are mirror trading the hell out of it
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
2x.008
1x.011 1x.013 1x.015
I Have had another order in at .01 and nothing....Did just get more at .011 Though!
Good luck!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
xj-ken....Did you get your fill?
Posted by Jmoove on :
this thing is a time bomb, mms are already scrambling for shares on less than 2 mill vol, mirror trades leap frog on the ask, wont take much in dollar volume to get this to .05, i think a 5-7 mill vol day could get is to .05 easily
Posted by Ross on :
i too am not gettin' my fill....
they r truely scrambling for stocks i guess...
Posted by buckstalker on :
Just filled at .01
Posted by OMGOMG on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
quote:Originally posted by OMGOMG: Appears to me another play in which we have to wait 3 months for a 10% uptick. Not to mention a pink sheet which means the spread can stay this wide. Fatherof2 why don't you go take care of your kids and leave the pick making up to someone who does it the correct way. In other words YOUR PLAYS SUCK...
What A D BAG! What's the matter MoMo have you running to A/S's cus he needs to take your minds off of his GRLZ pick yesterday...GO AWAY. THIS ONE'S GONNA' PLODE!
GO back to your hole you RAT!
Yeah look towards the future because the present doesnt look good. If you loved your money you will notice the bid hasn't moved and the ask keeps dropping. Looks like you are once again stuck in a FO2 POS
Posted by xj-ken on :
lil- no fill here. i'm set too low. gotta raise my limit up.
Posted by Jmoove on :
nite on the bid now, more mirrors 50k .01/.009, no one is getting filled without a mirror
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I'm not stuck omgomg...I'm in low...You know this one is going to scream! LOL Too funny! Tell momo cheers....LOL
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
WHOO-HOOO! DING, DING, DING! GO BABY!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by OMGOMG:
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
quote:Originally posted by OMGOMG: Appears to me another play in which we have to wait 3 months for a 10% uptick. Not to mention a pink sheet which means the spread can stay this wide. Fatherof2 why don't you go take care of your kids and leave the pick making up to someone who does it the correct way. In other words YOUR PLAYS SUCK...
What A D BAG! What's the matter MoMo have you running to A/S's cus he needs to take your minds off of his GRLZ pick yesterday...GO AWAY. THIS ONE'S GONNA' PLODE!
GO back to your hole you RAT!
Yeah look towards the future because the present doesnt look good. If you loved your money you will notice the bid hasn't moved and the ask keeps dropping. Looks like you are once again stuck in a FO2 POS
Go back to MoMo's board and ask how many are STUCK in GRLZ.... I guess they are all Long Term Investors NOW!
BTW... GRDX just upticked on the Bid and Ask!
Posted by HILANDER on :
Or ask about ATEG FOT, that one will hit close to home. he he he he he he he
Posted by Jmoove on :
bump the bid baby, get it to .011 or 12 and we are off to the races, cmon nite you know you want to
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
White candle building on good volume, this one will go.. I am not worried in the least!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
LOL HILANDER!
B/A coming together...Perhaps the MM's have almost worked out their headaches. LOL
Posted by Jmoove on :
45k at .012 and it bumps sgms off the ask
.01x.013
Posted by BuyTex on :
MACD liftoff on 15-minute intraday chart...
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Nice......What a chart it's building!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Remember what happend when this shell got filled! Tee-Hee-Hee!
and this one had little volume as well!
Posted by doubleS on :
any set date on when this will be launched, or this is a quick turn meaning double your money and get out
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I believe FOT stated it was a matter of a week or two from his conversation...Heck though I'll take a double any day....I think it goes much higher...I'm holding for AT LEAST A DOUBLE!
Posted by OMGOMG on :
You are losing the bid support and the last run has nothing to do with this one. MM's aren't upticking the bid for one simple reason. They have a ton of shares for sell at the ASK price. Why would they raise the bid if they haven't even sold 75% of the shares in hand that they have at the ASK price.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
That chart *duh* was not on this stock.....OMG! Pay attention! *Slap*
Get with the program. Gotta' go to the grocery store.....be back soon!
They drop the bid to get shares....THEY ARE SHORT! IT happens..I know you know this FOOL!
Posted by Jmoove on :
OMG, then why the block trades at the bid? And the mirror trades, and the 45 k buys that bump the ask? Have you traded before? Im so glad you are worried about this play today, when weve all said its a couple week play
Posted by OMGOMG on :
quote:Originally posted by HILANDER: Or ask about ATEG FOT, that one will hit close to home. he he he he he he he
Yeah they lost on ATEG and GRLZ but they won on PMEDW 1600% and even GRLZ did 400% people got in late. WHLI first run 900% SFTV .0025 to .03 thats over 1,000% MBRI 300% Need I say more. They lose one play and make over 200% on the next. Not to mention the spread on this play is tony the tiger gr888888 Ask is moving up but the bid is satying down. Chalk another one up for F02.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
yea, people got in late....momo chanting to buy GRLZ yesterday after a 3 day run up by him and one poor sucker actually bought 3500 shares....
Your gonna' eat your words.....I'll be there with the sugar for ya'.
Jmoove....I don't believe he has traded before...LOL
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Now....gotta' go out for a bit....Jmoove...Keep controll of the rodents while I'm out! LOL
Posted by doubleS on :
thanks Lil.
Posted by prefect on :
shoot had another order in...but didn't check "all or none" so only 3000 got filled...
What a waste of transaction fees...Grrrr...
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
gotta' check those orders prefect....That stinks. You betcha doubleS
Posted by Chas35 on :
is this done for the day?
Posted by theone2005 on :
New guy here. Do any one think my order will get filled? scottrade post order at 3:01
Posted by Jmoove on :
its hard to fill orders even at the ask if the order is below .012 prob wont fill today, either wait it out or try again tomorrow, might catch the ask stuck at .01
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
It is far from done....This is what people are going to be looking at tonight....ALERTS ARE:!
Up over 20%....NICE CANDLE! Great DD... This one is new to the BB's...It may take a day or two and then BOOOOM! Hold onto your hats....
Go back and read the first page of DD by FOT... IT'S GREAT!
Posted by Chas35 on :
took me most of the day to get in this..finally got filled at .011 about an hr ago..about the same time it moved to .012..then it dropped back to .011...hasn't budged in a while
Posted by theone2005 on :
thanks jmoove place .012 order and it filled.
Posted by Jmoove on :
they mirrored it at .009, mms dont even have 7800 shares
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Like I said ^....This one may take a day or two, to get noticed...IT WILL.....It is ALL GOOD!
I'm staying for the ride!
Posted by Along4theRide on :
I agree with Jmoove and Lil P, I think the MM's got their heads up the a$$ on this one, but once the strighten thenselves out it will take off!! Anyone got an extra seatbelt?
Posted by Jmoove on :
nearly every trade since this morning has been a mirror no matter what the size
ask 12 ---nite, sgms just moved to 20 15 20
Posted by jakeo on :
Yeah took me all morning was trying for 8 but i figured 10- not so many shares with this one, wont take much to make her take off
Posted by jordanreed on :
cant break that .012 wall!!
Posted by THE SHNAKER ATTACKER on :
jmoove, i'm trying to PM u but ur mail is full, u have a lot of reading to do, i have a question for u ..
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
.012 will fall. Only one there...They are keeping the spread.....Can't keep it for long...they will have to raise the bid with buying pressure.....and we're getting it....HOLD ON! Like Jmoove said....ALL MIRRORS!
READ the DD tonight in your free time....Really read it closly....IT'S AWESOME!
Posted by Jmoove on :
should work now shnaker
Posted by Along4theRide on :
Nice move in B/A
B .01 A .011
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Nice trade on the ASK going into the close......
Posted by OMGOMG on :
Mirror buys are to show retail selling on the ASK MM are not short because if they were the bid would come up to get more shares. All the volume today were from you cheerleaders following FO2. 2.6M IN VOLUME and a change of .004 oh yeah you guys made money today LMAO. Stock won't move unless she get's more volume and where is it going to come from? SCHB bidding .01 and someone hit him already for 172k shares Which means he is selling those shares at .015 now. LMAO you will make 0 foward progress on this play. You shall see.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
UP WE GO! GAPPER IN THE AM!!!!!!
Posted by OMGOMG on :
50% spread now and once SCHB falls back to .008 it will be almost 100% spread. No new volume will come into a play like this....
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
SORRY OMG! CANT HEAR YOU....OVER THE CHA' CHINGS!
CLOSED AT THE HOD!!!!!!!
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
Closed at .015
Ya hooooo
Posted by Rules on :
Seriously, I am not feeling this one. NHL has not exactly been a profitable organization. Not really seeing anything that would technically make this one fly. There isn't any volume on this one guys so I will still stand off to the side until something develops. Good luck guys as I am sure you know what you are doing on this one.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
No VOLUME? It has gone 10X over it's 10 day.....NOT too bad for a stock that has not been noticed on the BB's.....It is gonna' get noticed tonight and tomorrow....You betcha'
Good luck Rules...
Posted by jordanreed on :
been in all day at .012. so much pressure put on FOT to make a profitable pick. I know the DD looks good and all, but the jury is still out on this one. Lots of vol today but didnt move up after the open. I will hold to see what happens and will try not to be swayed be all the cheerleading. My investment is small, so not much to lose but much to gain.
Posted by Jmoove on :
.01x.015 eod l2, hmm ask doesnt get bumped unless they dont have shares to sell at the lower level. My take is that MMs are basically asleep on this because of the low volume for MONTHS, the lack of bid attention is common in these situations, im guessing that once .015 falls all the bids will chase because mms chose .02 as a safe position, and when this starts attacking that they will want more shares. Thats the skinny imo.
Posted by doubleS on :
not sure what to think about this pick, im still in but looking back not alot of pr or volume out on this. wished it would have been insq or something like that, we know it moves.
Posted by Jmoove on :
Ok, once and for all this is not a group pick, FOT puts out picks that look like good speculative buys based on market conditions, charts, and speculation regarding future news, etc. He does dd and selects stocks that he thinks can make us all money not solely based on a "group" of people buying in.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: No VOLUME? It has gone 10X over it's 10 day.....NOT too bad for a stock that has not been noticed on the BB's.....It is gonna' get noticed tonight and tomorrow....You betcha'
Good luck Rules...
Just wanted to correct myself.....40X it's normal 10 day...I believe Jmoove is correct...been sleeping too long...TIME TO GET UP! and it's not gonna' trade in the 100 mil's in one day of waking up and it's not a micro penny..It is trading in the penny range... Ok...I won't cheerlead too much...I'm just happy I'm in...
Good luck to all of you that are in and those who are gonna' watch on the side lines.
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by OMGOMG: 50% spread now and once SCHB falls back to .008 it will be almost 100% spread. No new volume will come into a play like this....
Why don't you share with us the big play for tomorrow. You seem to know so much.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by Jmoove: Ok, once and for all this is not a group pick, FOT puts out picks that look like good speculative buys based on market conditions, charts, and speculation regarding future news, etc. He does dd and selects stocks that he thinks can make us all money not solely based on a "group" of people buying in.
THANK YOU Jmoove! A GROUP PICK WOULD HAVE LOADING THE DAY'S PREVIOUS! HE GOT IN WHEN WE GOT IN!!!!! TODAY!!!!!!!THIS MORNING...HE IS BUYING WITH US!!!!!!
Sorry for shouting....Had to get it out!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Just go read the DD FOT was nice enough to post....If you like it..Get in...IF not fine, don't....I'm not gonna' break your arm to buy.. I have my shares....I'm gonna' make BANK!
Good luck all!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Just want to state my sell price. I'm not setting a price. I'm selling on the big news. It's coming and It's gonna' be HUGE! I'm doing what I do.....buying on the rumors and selling on the news. That's when I'm selling...Just to state my sell price..Getting a lot of inquires about when I'm selling
Bringing all the DD over here with some other important stuff for everyone to read on one page...
Author Topic: GRDX & World Hockey Association FatherOfTwo Member
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 09:33 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From a tech perspective, the chart is looking good with the MACD crossing over and the RSI showing oversold.
The reason why I like this company is that they are a pink sheet about to get filled with assets…..The current owner of GRDX is going to “give” a large portion of stock to the new owners and keep a certain percentage of shares for his own personal portfolio, while spinning all the current assets into a new company of which we as GRDX shareholders will receive a Dividend in the new company, while maintaining all our shares of the newly filled shell.
To me, this means that they quickly figured out it was cheaper to acquire some pink she et shell (providing the current owner with a small percentage of shares to keep), fill it with their own assets and obtain their own private financing, than it would be to have an IPO, where the investment bankers pocket a large percentage of the potential offering and proceeds.
In the second pr.... they announce that the current GRDX assets will be cleared out and put into another company. This is because the WHA wants a clean shell without any other baggage to have to deal with! I think that the team owners do not want any other entities, like golf or real estate, to compete with their financing.
Now, everyone knows that the NHL has agreed to a new owners/players contract…
However, how much of a pay cut did the players have to take??? There are going to be a lot of star players upset about losing so much $$$ and could easily be swayed to move if the dollar is right. On top of that, there are plenty of smaller markets dying to get a professional sports team. This is just the start of the new league and may take a year or two to become viable, but they have already done it once before and they can do it again. And with a notable celebrity player as the new commissioner.. Namely the Golden Jet himself… Mr. Bobby Hull…. There will be plenty of investors that he will have access to help get this thing launched!
http://www.primezone.com/newsroom/?d=79422 The World Hockey Association and The U.S. Pro Golf Tour to Merge With Park Hill Capital II, Inc. to Create a Publicly Traded Sports Marketing and Management Company NEW YORK, June 6, 2005 (PRIMEZONE) -- Park Hill Capital II, Inc., a U.S. public company soon to be publicly trading on a U.S. exchange, announced today that after several months of confidential negotiations, it will acquire the World Hockey Association and the U.S. Pro Golf Tour to create a complete professional sports marketing and management company to be renamed Major League Sports Corporation. Under the terms of the acquisition agreement, the company will issue fourteen million common shares to acquire both companies and will complete an initial private placement and public financing of up to $60,000,000 with the services of Finkelstein Capital Inc. of Montreal and Westminster Securities Corporation, a New York Stock Exchange Member. The World Hockey Association first took the sports world by surprise in 1972 launching a very successful attack on the National Hockey League (NHL) by attracting the superstars of the time to play in the new league where a mutual respect of owners, players and fans reigned. This new corporate and financing structure will enable the WHA to launch its operation and effectively revive the sport of professional hockey, with a minimum of six teams in cities yet to be announced, in time for the 2005 and 2006 season. Hockey Hall of Famer Bobby Hull is at the center stage of this rebirth serving as the new league's commissioner. Mr. Hull and his associates bring an abundance of hockey experience together with a refined business model strategically aligned with the economics of today's professional sport industry. With the financial backing of investors in place, the WHA is in a unique position to attract star players, like in its previous life when Wayne Gretzky, Mike Gartner, Gordie Howe, Paul Henderson, Rejean Houle, Norm Ullman and Frank Mahovlich, all played for the league. "After already receiving hundreds of current NHL, AHL and other league player inquiries, we expect that a good number of both star players and up and comers will join us in this new and exciting rebirth of both the WHA and the sport of professional hockey. We believe they will welcome this new league, one that respects fans, players, shareholders, sponsors and perhaps most importantly, the integrity of the game," said Richard Smith, President of the WHA. www.worldhockeyassociation.net The business model of the WHA includes plans to expand over the next 5 years with up to 16 franchises in North America and 16 in Europe. Revenue sharing between home and away teams will be implemented and corporate sponsorship will play a significant role in bringing professional hockey back to the fans.
Grand Lux, Inc. Signs Letter of Intent to Purchase World Hockey Association Corporation ORLANDO, FL -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 07/18/2005 -- Grand Lux Inc. (OTC: GRDX), today announced that it has signed an letter of intent (LOI) with World Hockey Association Corporation to purchase the company for stock. Upon completion, the present board of directors of Grand Lux, Inc. will resign and be replaced by the directors of World Hockey Association, which includes among others R. (Butch) Goring and Robert Marvin Hull. Grand Lux, Inc. will be spinning out all current assets into Marinas International Inc. and will provide Grand Lux, Inc. shareholder a one (1) share dividend of Marinas International Inc., for every ten (10) shares of GRDX. The Marinas International Inc. new symbol and dates will be announced in the near future as they become available. About Grand Lux, Inc. Grand Lux, Inc. is a company that focuses on upscale real estate development around the world. Its emphasis is on building marinas for large yachts, being 160 feet and above, and developing and pre-selling real estate whether condos or villas to the yacht owners. The benefits of our company offerings are manifold. It is a recession-proof industry and many yacht owners have already expressed a strong interest in purchasing berths in the marinas. Thus, appropriate real estate will be developed to meet their needs.
FatherOfTwo Member
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 11:18 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Over the last few days of my doing research, I spoke with some WHA people and have been told that the WHA DD of the GRDX shell is nearing completion and news of the closing will come out in the coming weeks.
They are planning on around 10-15 franchises with a franchise fee cost of about $4-6 million per team.
Added to that, the O/S count of GRDX is appx 20-30 million, once closed and filled with assets, this will bring tremendous value to the GRDX shareholder. Add to that a stock dividend for the Marina International company, it is a double win situation!
-------------------- Two wrongs don't make a right but 3 lefts do!
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 11:24 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Holy crap FOT.....If you do the math....When they close the deal fill the shell..It's looking at about a buck a share....Is that right? That's what I'm coming up with..Great DD and thanks again! -----------------------------------------------
FatherOfTwo Member
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 11:28 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10 teams @ $4 million per team is $40 Million
divide by the O/S count of 20-30 million and you get $1.33-$2.00 per share!
I can wait a couple weeks and let them do their business! SPRL.... was dead quite before it was filled and ran huge!
Remember what happend when this shell got filled! Tee-Hee-Hee!
and this one had little volume as well!
Closed at the HOD!
Posted by prefect on :
Are we sure it closed at the HOD?
My account still says it closed at 0.01 Posted by Along4theRide on :
I am not knocking the stock, but I have to agree with perfect, I only see .01 in my account as well.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
yea, my scottrade is as well...Last trade at .015 time 16:00:57 on L2 sometimes if it comes in after 4pm they don't catch it...It's all good...Only looking better at the open tomorrow when it goes from .01 to .015!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
Wow.. went to a meeting a come back to see this....Well, here are my thoughts again!
Here is a stock that clearly states in their last PR that they are a shell to be cleaned out and filled with the assets of the WHA.
Some posters come onto Allstocks with a "born-on date" of today and bash this pick... I wonder who they could be?!? Well, they are bashing this pick because they do not like me... it is personal with them, because I have called them on some of their bogus picks and plays, and they want revenge. They have not investigated this stock as have I. They have not made phone calls to verify anything. The are here purely to prevent a pick of mine to do well.
These posters have accused me of frontloading $20K into a stock and then selling it when it runs....I have proven today that I do not operate like that... Their last pick of GRLZ proves how they operate...
Many on this board PM'd me requesting that I give them the pick early, and I would NOT do it! Some were even the moderators of MoMo's board (go figure).
This is NOT a group pick. I bought my shares first thing this morning, and the pps jumped and settled right back down providing everyone else here the same opportunity to get in at the same pps as myself... I did not sell my shares today for 10% gain because I believe that the pps will go up substantially when the shell gets filled. I have seen this with other stocks. The volume for this stock historically has been nothing because it pretty much had nothing going for it, and was never noticed as having any potential. I am sure that this scared people away today from buying. SPEA had zero volume before it filled and it went from pennies to dollars.. so I know it can happen!
I have verified that the WHA will be filling this shell through PHONE CALLS. I asked questions and received answers, and I BOUGHT AFTER PERFORMING MY OWN DD!
I view this stock as any other... risk vs reward. Is a couple hundred bucks risk worth a return of a couple thousand dollars? When the shell gets filled and the PPS goes up, that is what I will get, so the reward far outweighs the risk in my opinion.
Posted by Jmoove on :
so it turns out the WHA has its headquarters in my home town or Rochester, NY. Im going to call tomorrow. My parent's neighbor is on the Junior Amerks (Rochester Americans - part of the AHL) board. Ill see what he thinks about the Co.
Posted by OMGOMG on :
The .015 print was BS. a 10k buy someone wanted it to close at .015 but the bid is weak. .01 then .08 on the bid. Please
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
What bashers like momo, bigthc1 (BigT) and others do is go to a board and bash people that are successful at "picking" profitable stocks. They look for inexperienced "newbies" that have lost money on a pick and will bash the picker in hopes that the newbies bash as well. The momo's and bigT's PM the newbies and offer to show them the ropes and invite them to their boards. They buy one to two days in advance of releasing a pick.
I can guarantee you that FOT is not a frontloader. He just happens to be very good at reading charts and does his own DD.
Posted by Jmoove on :
nice long legged doji formed today, after a bearish trend, up we go!
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by OMGOMG: The .015 print was BS. a 10k buy someone wanted it to close at .015 but the bid is weak. .01 then .08 on the bid. Please
Give me a pick dipwad.
Posted by weatherbill on :
I think maybe you all should get out of this one. With the NHL season coming up, how will this fly? The NHL will have everyone's attention. There would have to be a mad exodus from the NHL to make this fly......have they named any star players who've joined???? or are they all going NHL????? if they wouldd name some star players, I may be swayed, but until I see it, I can't jump in
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
clap clap clap for you OMG... please don't hurt yourself patting your own back! Any new people that are persuaded to join your group will make money the first time or two and then loose it all back... at which time, they all come back to allstocks.....alot wiser!
We both are out to make some money... only I try to bring some integrity into how I do it. I post the reasons for my picks and some supporting evidence as to why I believe that it will increase in value. You only get a bunch of people together to buy a low float stock to raise the pps and then you sell into the run. You say I sell into the run... well of course I sell into the run.. along with everyone else... Buy Low.. Sell High.. It is called TRADING! And YES.. alot of my picks do start off slow...not all of them skyrocket 1000% the second I post them! I think it is good that they do that as it provides everyone ample opportunity to do their own DD and get in on the stock at a decent entry and develop their own exit point strategy. Alot of my picks however do go up quite well! For me, I am happy with 25%-50% everytime. I do not have to have the gazillion percantage gains that you seem to pride yourself on obtaining!
I am going to attempt to bring back the civility and atmosphere that makes Allstocks the great message board that it is! This will be my last post to address you as it is not worth my time or effort, and it does nothing productive or benficial to the Allstocks Community.... you can continue to degrade me and bash me personally and tear apart all my picks.... I don't care any more! My # of post counter will continue to go up as yours resets with each new ID that you create every week! Find the weaknesses and skeletons in the closet of every one of my picks, as every pinksheet stock has them...hence that is why they are pinksheet stocks... it doesn't bother me!
Go ahead and brag about your high percentage gains here at Allstocks.. I am sure you will get your little following and make your money. I just have no desire to be a part of your little "Club bestpicksrus"
Good luck to you and Good Riddance!
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by OMGOMG: [QUOTE]The following were our offical Bestpicksrus Group picks. Point of entry and point of exit will vary from member to member but posted below is the Entry point and the highest the PPS went for the stock.. People make money at my site. No need for me to bash. My record speaks for it's self. SFTV - Started at .0025 High at .03 Total % change 1,000% TBLU - Started at .0095 High at .049 Total % change 500% MBRI - Started at .01 High at .039 Total % change 390% WHLI- Started at .0015 - High at.0139 Total % change 900% PTSH- Started at .01 - High at .035 - Total % change 250% PMEDW- Started at .01 - High .16 - Total % change 1600% GRLZ- Started at .014 - High .05 - Total % change less then 500%
Show me where these bogus figures occurred as some of these may have been entry points but surely did not continue to fly up to those highs. Let's look at GRLZ, yesterday was your entry and last time I checked, I am not seeing this magically rally. Let's look at WHLI, sure you may have jumped on the wagon and entry but I still don't see this magical run up to .0139! Bogus numbers bro. What makes matters worse is that you knock others for their picks but then you don't step up to show your poor plays that I am sure have occurred many times. What is the old saying about those who live in glass houses????
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
MACD crossed today and is diverging positive RSI is trending postive Williams%R bounced off the oversold line Wilders DMI lines are diverging together with the green line crossing in a couple days!
I like the chart as it indicates upward movement!
Posted by theone2005 on :
look at what i found. Now I wounder if this is a good play. answer.com search world hockey association
World Hockey Association (proposed) The old World Hockey Association (WHA) merged into the National Hockey League (NHL) in 1979. But in 2003, Allan Howell and Dr. Nick Vaccaro announced the formation of the new World Hockey Association. Former WHA star Bobby Hull (the first major star to play in the old WHA) is its commissioner.
Some proposed cities, like Quebec City, had a WHA franchise in the 1970s. Some fans suggested that those cities retain the old nicknames. But problems inevitably would have occurred with this because the trademark owners probably would not have approved the use of the name(s), or because the NHL owned the trademark (as in Quebec City's case). On August 27, it the WHA announced (http://www.worldhockeyassociation.net/news/media_releases/media_082704.htm) that the Quebec City franchise was terminated.
On July 17 and July 18, 2004, the league conducted a draft. Each of 8 teams drafted 30 NHL and AHL free agents and 30 entry-level players. Sidney Crosby was the first player drafted. The teams participiating in the draft were:
Dallas Americans (http://www.dallasamericans.com/) Detroit Gladiators (http://www.detroitgladiators.com/) Halifax Icebreakers Hamilton Florida, located in Miami Toronto Toros Vancouver Blazers Quebec City Nordiks (Later terminated, all draftees are considered free agents) Prospective future franchises that the new WHA was considering included:
Birmingham Cincinnati Hartford Minneapolis Montreal Phoenix Toledo Winnipeg The new WHA was to operate under a $10,000,000 salary cap, with one marquee player with a salary of up to $5,000,000 excluded from the cap. The league also planned to introduce a number of innovative rule changes, such as three-on-three overtime to decide tied games, and the goaltender being forbidden to play the puck in back of the red goal line.
On June 21, 2004, David Waronker, owner of the Southern Professional Hockey League's Orlando Seals and Jacksonville Barracudas, cancelled transferral of ownership to Calgary businessman Max Chambers because Waronker had not heard from Chambers since signing a letter of intent, before June 2, when a deadline for submission of $100,000 was not made.
A man named Rick Smith, based in British Columbia, announced that he had successfully purchased the rights to the league and intended to have it operational by the end of January 2005. That did not materialize, however the league has publicly stated that it intends to commence operations in 2005-06. Most outside observers believe that if the league ever has a chance to become a reality, then this year was probably its best opportunity due to the ongoing lockout of the NHLPA by the ownership of the NHL teams.
With the NHL's 2004-05 season cancelled, WHA has moved ahead with its organization plans. Rumors of a "teaser" tournament were confirmed on March 22, 2005, when the league announced the "Bobby Hull Invitational", to take place at General Motors Place in Vancouver, British Columbia during May 2005. With US$2 million winner's purse and a $20,000 guaranteed payout to each player that participates, six teams will be formed to play the tournament. WHA states that 67 NHL players, including Keith Primeau and Dany Heatley, will take part in the tournament. [1] (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=2018949) (As of early June, howver, the league's website says the tournament is merely "coming soon"; whether it will ever actually happen is unknown.)
At the same time, they announced a purchase of 49% stake in the league by unnamed eastern European investors, who would take control of the WHA European Division when it began play in the 2006-2007 season.
Posted by Rules on :
Yep, not feeling this one. Good job TheOne! That was a very good read.
Posted by OTCBB_Trader on :
Hello omgomg Thanks for your time and thoughts, after reading your post I am totally convinced to buy some more of this stock to just give a _____ about your thoughts. I know how much I made by following FOT's DD. I can sense it when I read his comments about why it is a right pick, he is not just telling that go and buy this today and make money. he explains every details which you won't find it and explain it and don't have the ability to do it.
Give us some reason why it is not a right pick other than the bid and ask quotes which everybody here know.
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
I am sorry to the other members of Allstocks that have to weed through the garbage that seems to follow me around. I will continue to post my DD as I always have, and I will do my best to contribute relavent and meaningful information to help you all make decisions. There has been good information posted on this thread, and some true trash. I hope you can all decipher the difference and read through all the BS to get to the meat of the details!
FOT- Never stop, Im begging you. I thank you for all you DD and hard work. As soon as ICMH is flying Im going to send you some nice Cigars!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by FatherOfTwo: Still a good looking chart!
MACD has crossed and is going positive RSI heading up DMI lines coming together and preparing for a green over red cross.
Posted by rickpic on :
I have followed this thread all day and did not invest. Here are my reasons why and it's not just the bid and ask!
The number one reason I chose to take the side lines is!
The stock has had no volume and the only reason it had any today is because FOT presented it. Good or bad that is a fact, and I'm not bashing FOT's DD as I think he has done a fine job in that area here.
The reverse split is the second reason, and the reasoning there is that there is a strong chance that if I wanted to invest here that I could get in at bigger discount the day of or the day before the R/S happens due to panic last minute selling and there is also a great chance of getting an even bigger discount in the days after the R/S when volume is low and the spread is greater than it is now putting pressure on short term traders to give it up at a discount!
The last reason i stayed out is that the NHL is just coming out of a long term strike and the Fans are pissed and the season ticket sales are expected to be low this year as a result. Only time will bring back the faith in the teams and the fans. I would think that they would even concider delaying the start of this new league for an extra year, when hopefully the demand for tickets has returned.
Just my 2 cents, and Im not saying its a bad stock just that i feel the timing is a bit early, but if the volume goes through the roof and I don't mean just from the 20 or so buyers following FOT's picks then I may change my mind on the timing.
GLTA Rick
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
ric... great synopsis.. and I can respect your reasoning and opinion.
However.. your statement of the R/S is not exactly true.
The way I understand the buyout, is that every share of GRDX that I hold now, I will still hold on to after the WHA takes over. The dividend is one share of the Marinas International for every 10 of GRDX that I hold. This is a DIVIDEND. I still am trying to estimate the value of Marinas International and am waiting on a call back from the person listed on thier PR's.
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
just curious rickpic what makes you say there will be a R/S? The PR stated that there would be a dividend; not a R/S.
Posted by rickpic on :
Ok FOT I'll buy that senario, but it does not change my feeling, because the 10 shares will still be of an empty shell, which will still leave only one share with any asset value. It still sounds like a very long term hold to realize any sustainable value backed by numbers and real assets that will take time to build. The addvertizing, leasing and hiring costs in the first few years will eat up profits fast. It's also still a pink and we all know there is no long in pinks land, there are way to many twists and turns that can happen without the shareholders seeing or knowing about them. I assume it has a short term pop in it now though. Fact is I really like time to watch a stock prior to buying, so that I can get a feel for how it moves and how buying or selling pressure effects the stock, so I will be watching for now. I will suggest that people take profits along the way here though due to the amount of risk factor in the play. After all that is what we are all here for!
Once again Good luck! Rick
PS: a good chart to look at when looking for the path this stock could take is, WGFL because its the same league spin type of play just with golf and i have followed that stock for over a year now.
[ August 30, 2005, 23:30: Message edited by: rickpic ]
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
That is true for all penny stocks rick. They are all RISK. Buying low and taking profits, you are correct. This is penny land...I'd like to see one penny that is not a risk.
No guts no glory. I'm glad i'm in. Good luck Rick and all.
Posted by rickpic on :
I'm really looking for a pick with a service like Service Master and thats based in the SE, or a demo company down there, because my feeling is that all of the flooded homes in The huricane area will need to be taken down or at minimum will need major water damage restoration. As a contractor I understand the damage that is continueing to deteriorate the building that are under water. I saw a strong recomendation for Sherwin Williams based or the restoration factor today, but that would be a further reaching investment. FOT find a nitch OTCBB company that is large enough to handle the demo or rehab on a FEMA level and you will have an ace I'm ready to chase!
Rick
Produces list! Lumber Sheetrock******* Plaster******* Carpet************* Wood Moldings************** Doors************ Plywood********************* Container placement company************* waste removal (by weight and its all wet)******** Hazardous haste removal************ Home inspections********************* and the list goes on. Its sad but the work will need to be done and some smaller nitch companies are in for the year of there life down there! this is not just a rebuild situation. The extent of the rehabs will be much further reaching. and the list goes on!
Posted by BuyTex on :
nice thread, good dialog.
(Rick, will join you on a thread focused on storm repair. There's a couple--pick one and I'm there...)
great suggestion, imo, to compare-n-contrast the golf-league stock. Got a buddy here who helped start a wooden-bat league for collegiate baseballers with pro asspirations...assume most start-up athletic leagues have similar ups-n-downs...
Posted by rickpic on :
Ok I'll start a thread now BuyTex! Lets see what people come up with!
Posted by jakeo on :
IDK if any of yall have been doing DD on this and might have come across info but a few q's:
So there dividend date is still waiting to be annouced as I understand? Time-line? 1 per (10) shares of GRDX Obviously its hard to tell without any figures or reports but any ideas of what price the dividend will be around?
Posted by xj-ken on :
RICPIC,
check out PEC. they are electrical contractors that do power lines, fiber optic, etc... their coverage is basically the track that the storm took.
Posted by Jmoove on :
upticking
11x12
Posted by Jmoove on :
nice big orders at the ask
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Looking HOT! GO BABY!
B/A together NOW...LOL
Posted by Jmoove on :
11x12 2x1 tdcm and nite on the bid
Posted by Jmoove on :
11x12 3x1
Posted by prefect on :
awww yeah!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
.014 HOD....
bxa moving up!
Posted by Jmoove on :
12x14
Posted by Jmoove on :
12x15
Posted by prefect on :
guess I started the celebration too soon...
Posted by Jmoove on :
false alarm, .009x13 now
Posted by Along4theRide on :
Yeah me to, I was in the middle of my second spin in my dance and then I saw it drop, you think profit taking?
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
MM's are playing games with her......
volume just dropped back by about 500K shares traded! It was around 1.4 mill and is now 900k....
They are trading between themselves!
Posted by Jmoove on :
im showing 1.603mil on alphatrade
Posted by jordanreed on :
people still hangin in there?
Posted by prefect on :
903,500 here
Posted by Along4theRide on :
Still hanging, bid ask tightened up 1.5 in volume so far.
Posted by Jmoove on :
my suggestion is to forget about this one for a while, I have to, lol, too many others to watch and some weird stuff going on with IGTN, see you all at .05
Posted by Chas35 on :
yeah looks like this will be a waiting game...unless it starts tanking fast i'm just gonna sit on it for a while
Posted by Kevin from NYC on :
yikes guys
Posted by preciserm on :
this thing just shat the bed
Posted by Jmoove on :
i dont have much in it, 2% of pfolio, if you can afford to just look away, better days ahead
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I'm in need of a Xanax but, I'm hanging for the BIG TIME AHEAD!
Posted by jakeo on :
youuuuchhh!!! this is down 40% and icmh is up a point... who knew? anybody try an order @ 6?
Posted by Rules on :
Well guys and gals, I hope you get your money back.
Posted by prefect on :
well this is certainly disappointing.
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
the whole market is suckin today...........
Posted by Rules on :
Chart looks terrible! Volume is very low once again which is allowing it to swing heavy and not allow many to get on or off.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Rules, It's nice to see you Posting $hit for people that lost some money. What a guy/Girl..I don't know. Good for you for spreading some sunshine... I'm red but, I'll be here. Are you in by the way? Were you ever in? Or again....Just spreading Joy?
I've got to go out for a bit...If I don't respond to you any more..Please don't feel neglected.
Posted by Chas35 on :
ok this needs to bounce dammit
Posted by Along4theRide on :
You ain't kidding Chas
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules: Chart looks terrible! Volume is very low once again which is allowing it to swing heavy and not allow many to get on or off.
Give me a good pick then.
Posted by buckstalker on :
Yea Rules...what is your point? I don't understand posters like you at all...What is it, stroking your own ego...I told you so...I am so right...
FYI...I don't have a lot invested here and I personally don't really care one way or the other if the stock goes up or drops like a rock...but I DO NOT enjoy seeing other people lose their money!
P.S. You just made my $hit list too!
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Rules, It's nice to see you Posting $hit for people that lost some money. What a guy/Girl..I don't know. Good for you for spreading some sunshine... I'm red but, I'll be here. Are you in by the way? Were you ever in? Or again....Just spreading Joy?
I've got to go out for a bit...If I don't respond to you any more..Please don't feel neglected.
Well, I am disappointed by your comments but I do understand why you are upset. I did try to warn about this one but several including you chose to burn your own path.
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules:
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Rules, It's nice to see you Posting $hit for people that lost some money. What a guy/Girl..I don't know. Good for you for spreading some sunshine... I'm red but, I'll be here. Are you in by the way? Were you ever in? Or again....Just spreading Joy?
I've got to go out for a bit...If I don't respond to you any more..Please don't feel neglected.
Well, I am disappointed by your comments but I do understand why you are upset. I did try to warn about this one but several including you chose to burn your own path.
Give me a good pick. If you don't not have the knowledge, I understand.
Posted by Rules on :
Seriously folks, for those who are upset by my comments, I do sincerely apologize as I do not like to see others lose money. Feel free to vent your anger towards me as I am sure it has been a frustrating day. I will no longer post in this thread. Once again....no harm intented.
Posted by buckstalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules:
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Rules, It's nice to see you Posting $hit for people that lost some money. What a guy/Girl..I don't know. Good for you for spreading some sunshine... I'm red but, I'll be here. Are you in by the way? Were you ever in? Or again....Just spreading Joy?
I've got to go out for a bit...If I don't respond to you any more..Please don't feel neglected.
Well, I am disappointed by your comments but I do understand why you are upset. I did try to warn about this one but several including you chose to burn your own path.
Well...I guess I was right about you... Warning someone about getting into a stock is fine.... but coming back and reminding those same people that you warned with "I told you so" serves no pupose other than to stroke your own ego. Two words for you...GROW UP!!
Posted by Kevin from NYC on :
hey it is not over yet.
have a little faith.
people may read this thread when thinking about investing here. Do you want to scare them all off?
Kev
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules: Seriously folks, for those who are upset by my comments, I do sincerely apologize as I do not like to see others lose money. Feel free to vent your anger towards me as I am sure it has been a frustrating day. I will no longer post in this thread. Once again....no harm intented.
Figures you don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by buckstalker on :
Hey Kevin...I haven't lost faith here at all...just don't like bashers or sickos that get pleasure from others misfortunes... This still looks like a good play to me!
quote:Originally posted by Kevin from NYC: hey it is not over yet.
have a little faith.
people may read this thread when thinking about investing here. Do you want to scare them all off?
Kev
Posted by Kevin from NYC on :
Well good luck to all
I am not in this right now. I stuck with ICMH for now.
I'm here for support, and to keep informed.
I have not ruled out buying in.
Posted by jakeo on :
Seems like a good buy here Kev- 6 is a pretty nice number especially if it jumps back to 14, which it could with some buying FOT what are your thoughts?
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Ok I'm back and feel much better. No faith lost. I'm hanging. It's going to go back..to much good stuff coming.
Make Bank all!
Posted by Kevin from NYC on :
quote:Originally posted by jakeo: Seems like a good buy here Kev- 6 is a pretty nice number especially if it jumps back to 14, which it could with some buying FOT what are your thoughts?
I'm on the fence. ICMH just went up another tick for over 13% today so far...
FoT seems to have a nice track record from what I have seen.
Posted by THE SHNAKER ATTACKER on :
spoke too soon kev. down to 16...lol
Posted by THE SHNAKER ATTACKER on :
does anyone think this will drop any lower in the next couple of days ?? i really want to get in but waiting til my funds clear
Posted by youngface on :
I got out just in time, I'll watch and get back in if news comes and such...
Posted by Kevin from NYC on :
quote:Originally posted by THE SHNAKER ATTACKER: spoke too soon kev. down to 16...lol
yeah i'm good at that Posted by Along4theRide on :
What happened? The volume came to a complete stop?
Posted by jordanreed on :
i am completely disappointed. not looking for a long hold here,but now have no choice! dont want to hold these pennies like this! Dammit!! I know, I know what youre gonna say. The future may or may not be bright, but for the sake of all of us, who are now stuck in this, lets hope this will rise above our entry point and beyond so we can move on ....
Posted by Along4theRide on :
Couldn't have said it better myself. No one made me by it, I mean I liked it, but to see it drop like that and hold drove me crazy. I don't know weather to cry or buy more! LOL I am hanging in there.
Posted by doubleS on :
looks like this is a long term investment now. I new better did not have a good feeling about this one from the start, but whats the old saying do your own DD. Live and learn at least my other picks did good today was able to get more of INSQ cheaper.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
ah...Jordan. We all get a $hit once in a while. I am still in with all of my shares. I still think it goes. I'M HOPING IT GOES!! There was a lot of good dd on this one and also a lot of bad talk....that can hurt a lot! best is to take a loss and put it else where or stay and hold on! Good luck all!
Posted by SeattleWriter3d on :
Ok so now I am curious about this one. Having read an old news release about buying the WHA and replacing current board with WHA (being a big Hockey fan the names are very promsing for the board) and the new spin off company and such....what exactly will this company now be? Is it now going to be the WHA and when is the Dividend going to be paid (1 for every 10) on the company the assets are being put into? Sorry but I am a late comer to this one but the price looks very interesting and I think it could very well bounce up a bit but I'm a little confused on what exactly this company will be doing. Feel free to PM me if you don't want to put it all in this post and I will be scrolling back over old posts to see how much I can find out. I put a lot of faith in many of you that are saying you are hanging in here and think this will still go so that along with the price is making me think about getting in.....any thoughts would be much appreciated.
Posted by The Nice Guy on :
lil
How much, on average, you put into a stock that you think would rise in price ??
Thanks.
Posted by samsam on :
Hello everyone, Said enough to say I am bag holding this. The member OMGOMG said it would happen and it did. All t he volume from yesterday was from us on this thread. We put our trust in the DD and it failed us. I am starting to believe that it is over rated. Every single one of us are in red on this. This stock will not bounce because no new volume will come into it. The spread yesterday was a sign of bad things to come. Instead everyone here told OMGOMG to shut up and he ended up being correct. Not blaming Fatherof2 but all the indicators were incorrect. All the charts look bad even though he said it looked good yesterday. Charts and DD blinded us and now we have to pay the price for it. I believe next time Fatherof2 calls a play we should let her drop then get in because his plays have a tendency to drop like a rock once he calls it. He didn’t even come on today and comment on this play. I really believe all the things said about him to be true and I will never play any of his plays again…
Posted by samsam on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: yea, people got in late....momo chanting to buy GRLZ yesterday after a 3 day run up by him and one poor sucker actually bought 3500 shares....
Your gonna' eat your words.....I'll be there with the sugar for ya'.
Jmoove....I don't believe he has traded before...LOL
Look at where all the cheerleading got you now. I am selling first thing in the morning because this stock is a total dud.
Posted by samsam on :
These are all Fatheroftwo's plays for 1 month....
GRDX----- In red since he called it ICMH----- In red since he called it DIAAF----- In red almost 100% since he called it PLNI----- No type of foward uptrend has been trading .015 for awhile now IDWS----- In red almost 100% since called TWOG----- In red again since called huge dip since called WDAM---- In red again since called over 50% IDVL---- In red as well trading huge amount of shares
Instead of everyone looking at his track record for the padt month they get blinded for what ever reason. His plays force you to become an investor because they always drop after it is called. Horrible track record for this month. What have you done for us lately Fatheroftwo?
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
Quit all yer yappin ya yellow bellied sap suckin SOB'S, ya belly achin is gonna make me lose my tuna salad from lunch. I'm still holdin' & if ya aint got the guts for playin pennies then stop playin em. I'm down over $1,500 on various stocks today and I ain't whining about it. PS - stop using FOT as a scapegoat to your decisions!
Posted by samsam on :
I don't believe we are using him as a scapegoat. It his play's. Then when the stock tanks he is no where to be found. Then onve month later when she ends the day 20% in green he wants to reappear. It happens all the time with this guy. He is a Pumper and Dumper to the fullest. He uses DD as a way to sucker us in. Everyone say's the DD is good but the stock sucks. I made money on MOVNE and LPLHW. Two stocks with no DD and no history.
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:It happens all the time with this guy. He is a Pumper and Dumper to the fullest. He uses DD as a way to sucker us in.
sam, from your post, it seems as though you're presenting evidence of previous dissatisfaction with FoT's picks, right. I mean, you can read the quote, yes?
So I must ask: Why did you play this one?
Posted by samsam on :
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex:
quote:It happens all the time with this guy. He is a Pumper and Dumper to the fullest. He uses DD as a way to sucker us in.
sam, from your post, it seems as though you're presenting evidence of previous dissatisfaction with FoT's picks, right. I mean, you can read the quote, yes?
So I must ask: Why did you play this one?
Hello Buytex, Only reason why I played it was because there was nothing else better to play. As soon as I got in I knew it was a mistake so i left for awhile came back to see my account in red big time. I have no one to blame but myself but when will people start to notice his plays do not show margin of profit. People are FORCED to hold long term because they drop so much.. We were the only volume in this stock yesterday. Not to mention huge selling as we bought in. I can go on and on but when will someone speak out and say something. We are here to make money not burn it away in 7 plays in a row.
Posted by wildweb on :
im new here dont know much about stocks still trying to learn I guess we all have to start somewhere.
I feel bad for FOT simply because he is just giving his opinion whether it be from hard spent time or pumping and dumping, no one is paying him for his expert advice. No one tells anyone here "you better buy this stock" with a gun to your head.
I say if you think his stock picks are so bad don't play them? This way people reading these forums don't have to hear people whining and crying, about who can and cant pick stocks.
The funny thing is most people bitching about this person or that person not being able to make a good pick don't make picks themselves. At least FOT has the balls to put his choice on the line, right, wrong, or indifferent.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres*: Quit all yer yappin ya yellow bellied sap suckin SOB'S, ya belly achin is gonna make me lose my tuna salad from lunch. I'm still holdin' & if ya aint got the guts for playin pennies then stop playin em. I'm down over $1,500 on various stocks today and I ain't whining about it. PS - stop using FOT as a scapegoat to your decisions!
MM too much....and samsam go back and look again at those picks....they actually went up. They did come back down and Guess what? THEY DO THAT! I know FOT said yesterday he would be in meetings almost all day today. Boy samsam. where's your record of great picks. If FOT has had one or two bad picks GOOD FOR HIM at least he's putting them out there...And perhaps 2 didn't run as you would like out of WHAT 15/20 that he has posted at least....PLEASE don't make MM lose his tuna, won't be able to handle it...
Again, I'm really still liking what I'm reading and will stay in. I still believe it just has not gotten enough attention. People are still reading and when it sinks in....BOOM! SEE ya'Sucka'
and Hey Tex!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
NICE wildweb and samsam......Stop your biaching....You're giving me a headache...My God my little girl does not whine as much as you.
If you got in yesterday WHY ON EARTH DID YOU NOT GET OUT THIS MORNING WHEN IT HIT .014!!!!! FOR PETE'S SAKE you and the other little girls on this thread have sent out the most horrible vibes...hell people don't want to read your crap so they move on.....Don't want to buy into the drama.....That's half the problem here.! There is good DD on this thread......IF YOU CAN FIND IT!!!!!!!
now why not go polish your nails and be QUITE~!
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Only reason why I played it was because there was nothing else better to play.
So, it was like, may as well, who cares? lol, that's *not* how your posts are coming off...seems like you got an axe to grind...just judging from the overall tone of what you've posted...
quote:We were the only volume in this stock yesterday.
So, did you check any other boards to verify "buzz"?
quote:Not to mention huge selling as we bought in.
How did that stack up against your exit stragtegy?
I'm thinking, lol, there were *hundreds* of other plays...yet, you blindly bought? someone whose picks you distrusted? Are you saying this Father figure somehow hypnotized you?
Seriously, I'm having a hard time following your reasoning...
Posted by wildweb on :
its hard to find anything in half of the posts simply because 1/2 of each thread contains bittching or slander.. I thought this would be a good place to learn about some stocks afer I lost $4,000+ in a few deals...I guess you can learn if you read between the lines and past the moaning and groaning.
Posted by wildweb on :
hypnotized....lol I need to learn that trick so I can hypnotize these companies for some darn pr
Posted by samsam on :
Not a problem. I will sell tommorow and you guys can keep seeing yoru accounts in red. It's not hard to make a play. Hell from now on I can post a play and I am sure it will do better then fatherof2's and lilpennypincher i see you post under fatheroftwo all the time. So your a cheerleader. As you guys keep lovign him your account will continue to show red. Hell you were in red the sec you got in. Look at his plays from the exact sec he called it and compare it to charts. You see they go straight down. Next day it opens in red. Every single one. I will not sit here an argue with you guys. Each one of us are in red and I will take my money and invest in my own play while you guys sit here and look towards the future. The mind set of bagholders i guess.
Posted by BuyTex on :
samsam, the more you post? the more you sound like a "stored" handle for nomi...
do you love low-float stocks?
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
YES....FINALLY....SELL, SELL, SELL, Look forward to your picks...And YES, I do usually jump on FOT's bandwagon....I just don't get too greedy and get out! This one is red for me BUT MY PORTFOLIO IS GREEN FOR THE YEAR BABY! Can't win em' all....This one is a winner. Just down now.....
AND AGAIN YES, READ MY SIG!!! RA-RA-SIS-BOOM-BA!
WHOOO-HOOO! He's sellin' tomorrow, He's sellin' tomorrow.....Yippie He'll be GONE!!!!!!!WHOO-HOO! Nite-Nite....Now back to the DD!
Posted by SeattleWriter3d on :
Ok, well this has been most interesting and now I can't just sit and watch. I have unexpected profits from today (only $400 so don't get me wrong) so I'm going to have to buy into this one and see just what the hell happens. I feel pretty good at the position right now and I will watch when it opens to see if it dips anymore before I buy in but I just can't sit here with all this drama and not be a part of it. Yes, I know, there is medication and therepy but hey, going to the shrink for my problem can't make me money and this just might! See you all in the morning!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
SeattleWriter3d join the party after a Xanax or two they all fade away....Hell samsam will gladly sell you his shares.... ONCE AGAIN DD! Read it all it's awesome...I'll put this on every page!
Author Topic: GRDX & World Hockey Association FatherOfTwo Member
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 09:33 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From a tech perspective, the chart is looking good with the MACD crossing over and the RSI showing oversold.
The reason why I like this company is that they are a pink sheet about to get filled with assets…..The current owner of GRDX is going to “give” a large portion of stock to the new owners and keep a certain percentage of shares for his own personal portfolio, while spinning all the current assets into a new company of which we as GRDX shareholders will receive a Dividend in the new company, while maintaining all our shares of the newly filled shell.
To me, this means that they quickly figured out it was cheaper to acquire some pink she et shell (providing the current owner with a small percentage of shares to keep), fill it with their own assets and obtain their own private financing, than it would be to have an IPO, where the investment bankers pocket a large percentage of the potential offering and proceeds.
In the second pr.... they announce that the current GRDX assets will be cleared out and put into another company. This is because the WHA wants a clean shell without any other baggage to have to deal with! I think that the team owners do not want any other entities, like golf or real estate, to compete with their financing.
Now, everyone knows that the NHL has agreed to a new owners/players contract…
However, how much of a pay cut did the players have to take??? There are going to be a lot of star players upset about losing so much $$$ and could easily be swayed to move if the dollar is right. On top of that, there are plenty of smaller markets dying to get a professional sports team. This is just the start of the new league and may take a year or two to become viable, but they have already done it once before and they can do it again. And with a notable celebrity player as the new commissioner.. Namely the Golden Jet himself… Mr. Bobby Hull…. There will be plenty of investors that he will have access to help get this thing launched!
http://www.primezone.com/newsroom/?d=79422 The World Hockey Association and The U.S. Pro Golf Tour to Merge With Park Hill Capital II, Inc. to Create a Publicly Traded Sports Marketing and Management Company NEW YORK, June 6, 2005 (PRIMEZONE) -- Park Hill Capital II, Inc., a U.S. public company soon to be publicly trading on a U.S. exchange, announced today that after several months of confidential negotiations, it will acquire the World Hockey Association and the U.S. Pro Golf Tour to create a complete professional sports marketing and management company to be renamed Major League Sports Corporation. Under the terms of the acquisition agreement, the company will issue fourteen million common shares to acquire both companies and will complete an initial private placement and public financing of up to $60,000,000 with the services of Finkelstein Capital Inc. of Montreal and Westminster Securities Corporation, a New York Stock Exchange Member. The World Hockey Association first took the sports world by surprise in 1972 launching a very successful attack on the National Hockey League (NHL) by attracting the superstars of the time to play in the new league where a mutual respect of owners, players and fans reigned. This new corporate and financing structure will enable the WHA to launch its operation and effectively revive the sport of professional hockey, with a minimum of six teams in cities yet to be announced, in time for the 2005 and 2006 season. Hockey Hall of Famer Bobby Hull is at the center stage of this rebirth serving as the new league's commissioner. Mr. Hull and his associates bring an abundance of hockey experience together with a refined business model strategically aligned with the economics of today's professional sport industry. With the financial backing of investors in place, the WHA is in a unique position to attract star players, like in its previous life when Wayne Gretzky, Mike Gartner, Gordie Howe, Paul Henderson, Rejean Houle, Norm Ullman and Frank Mahovlich, all played for the league. "After already receiving hundreds of current NHL, AHL and other league player inquiries, we expect that a good number of both star players and up and comers will join us in this new and exciting rebirth of both the WHA and the sport of professional hockey. We believe they will welcome this new league, one that respects fans, players, shareholders, sponsors and perhaps most importantly, the integrity of the game," said Richard Smith, President of the WHA. www.worldhockeyassociation.net The business model of the WHA includes plans to expand over the next 5 years with up to 16 franchises in North America and 16 in Europe. Revenue sharing between home and away teams will be implemented and corporate sponsorship will play a significant role in bringing professional hockey back to the fans.
Grand Lux, Inc. Signs Letter of Intent to Purchase World Hockey Association Corporation ORLANDO, FL -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 07/18/2005 -- Grand Lux Inc. (OTC: GRDX), today announced that it has signed an letter of intent (LOI) with World Hockey Association Corporation to purchase the company for stock. Upon completion, the present board of directors of Grand Lux, Inc. will resign and be replaced by the directors of World Hockey Association, which includes among others R. (Butch) Goring and Robert Marvin Hull. Grand Lux, Inc. will be spinning out all current assets into Marinas International Inc. and will provide Grand Lux, Inc. shareholder a one (1) share dividend of Marinas International Inc., for every ten (10) shares of GRDX. The Marinas International Inc. new symbol and dates will be announced in the near future as they become available. About Grand Lux, Inc. Grand Lux, Inc. is a company that focuses on upscale real estate development around the world. Its emphasis is on building marinas for large yachts, being 160 feet and above, and developing and pre-selling real estate whether condos or villas to the yacht owners. The benefits of our company offerings are manifold. It is a recession-proof industry and many yacht owners have already expressed a strong interest in purchasing berths in the marinas. Thus, appropriate real estate will be developed to meet their needs.
FatherOfTwo Member
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 11:18 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Over the last few days of my doing research, I spoke with some WHA people and have been told that the WHA DD of the GRDX shell is nearing completion and news of the closing will come out in the coming weeks.
They are planning on around 10-15 franchises with a franchise fee cost of about $4-6 million per team.
Added to that, the O/S count of GRDX is appx 20-30 million, once closed and filled with assets, this will bring tremendous value to the GRDX shareholder. Add to that a stock dividend for the Marina International company, it is a double win situation!
-------------------- Two wrongs don't make a right but 3 lefts do!
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 11:24 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Holy crap FOT.....If you do the math....When they close the deal fill the shell..It's looking at about a buck a share....Is that right? That's what I'm coming up with..Great DD and thanks again! -----------------------------------------------
FatherOfTwo Member
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 11:28 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10 teams @ $4 million per team is $40 Million
divide by the O/S count of 20-30 million and you get $1.33-$2.00 per share!
I can wait a couple weeks and let them do their business! SPRL.... was dead quite before it was filled and ran huge!
Remember what happend when this shell got filled! Tee-Hee-Hee!
and this one had little volume as well!
Posted by BuyTex on :
lilpenny--
that poodle on your c-leader skirt? Can you scan it and e-mail it?
Will update it with fangs and spike-collar for "KTrain Cheerleader" sweater...
lol
Posted by SeattleWriter3d on :
Well I'm fresh out of Medication but flush with extra cash and LOVE to gamble (play dice 3 times a week) and as a professed penny stock addict on one hell of a run (made a KILLING on DDSI) I'm all about rolling the dice.....so BRING IT ON! I'm in tomorrow!
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Originally posted by wildweb: its hard to find anything in half of the posts simply because 1/2 of each thread contains bittching or slander.. I thought this would be a good place to learn about some stocks afer I lost $4,000+ in a few deals...I guess you can learn if you read between the lines and past the moaning and groaning.
This is a great board. Accordingly, we get attacked...especially on weekends and during the summer. Anytime things have slowed down and the scamsters think they can "slip in" under the radar...
Posted by wildweb on :
SeattleWriter3d who needs a shrink...I just buy my vico's and grab a half gallon of segrams 7 and have fun....I love to gamble and sooner or later it will pay off...Always does ;-)
If you listen to the cry babies around this place though I think even a shrink wouldnt help. I am buying more tomarrow just because learned one thing. When someone is trying to shoot down a stock its because they want to buy it for themselves CHEEEEEAAAAP!
gla!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
LOL Again read what happened when this shell got filled!
.06 to almost $20.00 and almost noone paid any attention to it.....
all in 3 months... from .10 to 12.00 IN 3 DAYS! GOTTA' LOVE THAT!!!!!! Not saying that this will do what SPEA did but, Don't doubt a shell...Never know what can happen. Good luck all... I'm sending that poodle right over Tex!
Posted by wildweb on :
well I hope this one, icmh, and the logest shot and the biggest loser for me cali all do exactly that. If they do I will by you a green umbrella to match your shirt lil...lol (your picture)
What do you think of cali? i heard good and bad. I am so far into it I have no choice but to sink or swim with them.
Posted by BuyTex on :
penny:
got it!
Hope they don't rile my new poodle...with FANGS!
later, y'all
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Oh come on wild....you know I know you think I'm purdy.....LOL and just for that 5 stars coming at cha'!
Later Tex...
Posted by samsam on :
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: samsam, the more you post? the more you sound like a "stored" handle for nomi...
do you love low-float stocks?
I figuered you would say that. Momo first got on here in March I believe... Just upset that we had no chance to see green in this stock. See you bagholders around.
Posted by wildweb on :
Oh come on wild....you know I know you think I'm purdy.....LOL
Oh yes lil, you caught me...I dont know if its the vicos or segrams but that outfit and look is sexy as all hell....lol...lol
i sent 5 your way to....i tried to do 5 over to tex but I can't vote??? Do you know why?
Posted by samsam on :
Lets see how much you guys will joke around when this drops another 40% tommorow.... Have a good night.
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
quote:Originally posted by wildweb: Oh come on wild....you know I know you think I'm purdy.....LOL
Oh yes lil, you caught me...I dont know if its the vicos or segrams but that outfit and look is sexy as all hell....lol...lol
i sent 5 your way to....i tried to do 5 over to tex but I can't vote??? Do you know why?
yeah he took his ratings down @ night cuz sometimes malicious people here vote 1 star.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I believe you need 20 posts or something like that so.....Keep going...... Most men usually ask if they can drink my bath water...I'm so HOT! LOL Especially in that outfit!
Posted by wildweb on :
SAM???I thought you left? I guess you just cant get away from us huh? I wanted to let you know the only bagholding we will do is the bags of cash we have to take to the bank. Then you can wish upon a star and say I wish I may, I wish I might not of left GRDX that night....
Its o.k. no hard feeling...AHHH I hate when the alcohol talks..oh well ;-)
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
That's a wonderful idea MM. I get all my bad stars in the evening...Even with my sexy picutre! Imagine that!
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: That's a wonderful idea MM. I get all my bad stars in the evening...Even with my sexy picutre! Imagine that!
LMAO
Posted by wildweb on :
oh yes lil....sexy as all hell....I cant even control myself when I see that pic....I think thats whats wrong with SAM...you are following the father like most smart people will do, and once he seen your pic, he wishes he could be your daddy instead...poor sam...its O.K.
LOL
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
yea, He's just sad that he's not drinking my bath water! Come on....gotta' get the DD on a fresh page 8!
Posted by wildweb on :
yes that bath water is bitter but yet so sweet just like this stock is going to be.
Do you know anything about cali? I am so stuck with that till it goes up quite a bit...any help would be cool...
Posted by samsam on :
quote:Originally posted by wildweb: SAM???I thought you left? I guess you just cant get away from us huh? I wanted to let you know the only bagholding we will do is the bags of cash we have to take to the bank. Then you can wish upon a star and say I wish I may, I wish I might not of left GRDX that night....
Its o.k. no hard feeling...AHHH I hate when the alcohol talks..oh well ;-)
Lol yeah ok how many of these stocks have people said they will get rich off of and they have yet to make 5% profit....
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
LOL...I'm already rich...I just wanna' have fun!
Posted by wildweb on :
That is true sam
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by wildweb: yes that bath water is bitter but yet so sweet just like this stock is going to be.
Do you know anything about cali? I am so stuck with that till it goes up quite a bit...any help would be cool...
Missed that whole CALI thing...Was on vacation I believe.
Posted by samsam on :
And for those who got into this stock for the dividens you should of waited for the stock to drop like a rock which it will so you can get paid for every 10 shares you have. Instead you bought high and the stock will keep dropping like a rock. No new volume will enter to boost the pps up and the spread is as wide as a 2 dollar hoe.....
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
NEW PAGE: AND NITE ALL! See ya' in the morning'
Author Topic: GRDX & World Hockey Association FatherOfTwo Member
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 09:33 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From a tech perspective, the chart is looking good with the MACD crossing over and the RSI showing oversold.
The reason why I like this company is that they are a pink sheet about to get filled with assets…..The current owner of GRDX is going to “give” a large portion of stock to the new owners and keep a certain percentage of shares for his own personal portfolio, while spinning all the current assets into a new company of which we as GRDX shareholders will receive a Dividend in the new company, while maintaining all our shares of the newly filled shell.
To me, this means that they quickly figured out it was cheaper to acquire some pink she et shell (providing the current owner with a small percentage of shares to keep), fill it with their own assets and obtain their own private financing, than it would be to have an IPO, where the investment bankers pocket a large percentage of the potential offering and proceeds.
In the second pr.... they announce that the current GRDX assets will be cleared out and put into another company. This is because the WHA wants a clean shell without any other baggage to have to deal with! I think that the team owners do not want any other entities, like golf or real estate, to compete with their financing.
Now, everyone knows that the NHL has agreed to a new owners/players contract…
However, how much of a pay cut did the players have to take??? There are going to be a lot of star players upset about losing so much $$$ and could easily be swayed to move if the dollar is right. On top of that, there are plenty of smaller markets dying to get a professional sports team. This is just the start of the new league and may take a year or two to become viable, but they have already done it once before and they can do it again. And with a notable celebrity player as the new commissioner.. Namely the Golden Jet himself… Mr. Bobby Hull…. There will be plenty of investors that he will have access to help get this thing launched!
http://www.primezone.com/newsroom/?d=79422 The World Hockey Association and The U.S. Pro Golf Tour to Merge With Park Hill Capital II, Inc. to Create a Publicly Traded Sports Marketing and Management Company NEW YORK, June 6, 2005 (PRIMEZONE) -- Park Hill Capital II, Inc., a U.S. public company soon to be publicly trading on a U.S. exchange, announced today that after several months of confidential negotiations, it will acquire the World Hockey Association and the U.S. Pro Golf Tour to create a complete professional sports marketing and management company to be renamed Major League Sports Corporation. Under the terms of the acquisition agreement, the company will issue fourteen million common shares to acquire both companies and will complete an initial private placement and public financing of up to $60,000,000 with the services of Finkelstein Capital Inc. of Montreal and Westminster Securities Corporation, a New York Stock Exchange Member. The World Hockey Association first took the sports world by surprise in 1972 launching a very successful attack on the National Hockey League (NHL) by attracting the superstars of the time to play in the new league where a mutual respect of owners, players and fans reigned. This new corporate and financing structure will enable the WHA to launch its operation and effectively revive the sport of professional hockey, with a minimum of six teams in cities yet to be announced, in time for the 2005 and 2006 season. Hockey Hall of Famer Bobby Hull is at the center stage of this rebirth serving as the new league's commissioner. Mr. Hull and his associates bring an abundance of hockey experience together with a refined business model strategically aligned with the economics of today's professional sport industry. With the financial backing of investors in place, the WHA is in a unique position to attract star players, like in its previous life when Wayne Gretzky, Mike Gartner, Gordie Howe, Paul Henderson, Rejean Houle, Norm Ullman and Frank Mahovlich, all played for the league. "After already receiving hundreds of current NHL, AHL and other league player inquiries, we expect that a good number of both star players and up and comers will join us in this new and exciting rebirth of both the WHA and the sport of professional hockey. We believe they will welcome this new league, one that respects fans, players, shareholders, sponsors and perhaps most importantly, the integrity of the game," said Richard Smith, President of the WHA. www.worldhockeyassociation.net The business model of the WHA includes plans to expand over the next 5 years with up to 16 franchises in North America and 16 in Europe. Revenue sharing between home and away teams will be implemented and corporate sponsorship will play a significant role in bringing professional hockey back to the fans.
Grand Lux, Inc. Signs Letter of Intent to Purchase World Hockey Association Corporation ORLANDO, FL -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 07/18/2005 -- Grand Lux Inc. (OTC: GRDX), today announced that it has signed an letter of intent (LOI) with World Hockey Association Corporation to purchase the company for stock. Upon completion, the present board of directors of Grand Lux, Inc. will resign and be replaced by the directors of World Hockey Association, which includes among others R. (Butch) Goring and Robert Marvin Hull. Grand Lux, Inc. will be spinning out all current assets into Marinas International Inc. and will provide Grand Lux, Inc. shareholder a one (1) share dividend of Marinas International Inc., for every ten (10) shares of GRDX. The Marinas International Inc. new symbol and dates will be announced in the near future as they become available. About Grand Lux, Inc. Grand Lux, Inc. is a company that focuses on upscale real estate development around the world. Its emphasis is on building marinas for large yachts, being 160 feet and above, and developing and pre-selling real estate whether condos or villas to the yacht owners. The benefits of our company offerings are manifold. It is a recession-proof industry and many yacht owners have already expressed a strong interest in purchasing berths in the marinas. Thus, appropriate real estate will be developed to meet their needs.
FatherOfTwo Member
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 11:18 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Over the last few days of my doing research, I spoke with some WHA people and have been told that the WHA DD of the GRDX shell is nearing completion and news of the closing will come out in the coming weeks.
They are planning on around 10-15 franchises with a franchise fee cost of about $4-6 million per team.
Added to that, the O/S count of GRDX is appx 20-30 million, once closed and filled with assets, this will bring tremendous value to the GRDX shareholder. Add to that a stock dividend for the Marina International company, it is a double win situation!
-------------------- Two wrongs don't make a right but 3 lefts do!
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 11:24 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Holy crap FOT.....If you do the math....When they close the deal fill the shell..It's looking at about a buck a share....Is that right? That's what I'm coming up with..Great DD and thanks again! -----------------------------------------------
FatherOfTwo Member
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 11:28 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10 teams @ $4 million per team is $40 Million
divide by the O/S count of 20-30 million and you get $1.33-$2.00 per share!
I can wait a couple weeks and let them do their business! SPRL.... was dead quite before it was filled and ran huge!
Remember what happend when this shell got filled! Tee-Hee-Hee!
and this one had little volume as well! [/QB][/QUOTE]
LOL Again read what happened when this shell got filled!
.06 to almost $20.00 and almost noone paid any attention to it.....
all in 3 months... from .10 to 12.00 IN 3 DAYS! GOTTA' LOVE THAT!!!!!! Not saying that this will do what SPEA did but, Don't doubt a shell...Never know what can happen.
Posted by samsam on :
Lilpenny .10 to 12.00 was in the past has nothing to do with the state you are in now. You guys added fresh volume yesterday it did nothing but raise the ask and force people to buy and the bid never came up pasy .01 This will keep dropping and you can do all the DD you want because it won't help the PPS of the stock..
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Hey A$$ the bid did get over .01 GET YUR' FACTS STRAIGHT! SOME SELL OFF! NOW It's gonna' get some attention. AND AGAIN A$$....The .10/12.00 was another shell A$$!
Please sell this stock in the AM......and you won't have to worry about it ANY MORE! GOOD NIGHT sam-i-am...don't want to cludder this page with any more of you. YEK!
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex:
quote:Only reason why I played it was because there was nothing else better to play.
So, it was like, may as well, who cares? lol, that's *not* how your posts are coming off...seems like you got an axe to grind...just judging from the overall tone of what you've posted...
quote:We were the only volume in this stock yesterday.
So, did you check any other boards to verify "buzz"?
quote:Not to mention huge selling as we bought in.
How did that stack up against your exit stragtegy?
I'm thinking, lol, there were *hundreds* of other plays...yet, you blindly bought? someone whose picks you distrusted? Are you saying this Father figure somehow hypnotized you?
Seriously, I'm having a hard time following your reasoning...
Sam? you sly dog, you...
coming back around, after avoiding questions?
Speak up, or forever hold your piece...
Why won't you answer the questions?
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Speak up, or forever hold your piece...
I'm sorry Tex.....ROFLMAO! I just had to come back for that! I almost fell off my chair!
OK....I'm done! LOL
Posted by BuyTex on :
duh, i *can* spell...
later, penny...I can't stay up all night, either...lol
It's just funny to me when these characters leave, thinking I've gone or whatever, then jump back in... for some reason? they hate to answer *real* questions...
Posted by BuyTex on :
Sam?
Gainster?
Momo?
cat got you boyz, punkzareuz tongue?
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Tex...it's best spelt that way....ROFLMAO! I can see him....holding his piece!!! LOL
Nite Tex!
Posted by jakeo on :
Sam must really wanna hold us down- Keeps coming back reminding everyone of how there is gonna be no new volume. BUUUTTTT We got news spec of the shell being filled coming and that would send us to the moon if we are right- THAT WILL GENERATE VOLUME. This was stated by FOT as a 1 to 2 week hold and it is. The profit takers brought us down today, hoping to hop on FOT volume train and ride it up for a small gain. With this kind of low float- .06 (doubt you could get any shares @ that price) is a damn fine spot to buy especially if this gets back to its original of .12ish,... niiiiceee double!!! IMHO
Posted by HossTrader on :
I think it is a gamble. And if the shell gets filled and the WHA does take it over, it will skyrocket. I don't think any real volume will happen, or any money will be made until that transaction becomes official.
I sure hope it does happen though, cuz I am the guy that bought in at .012!!! Posted by jakeo on :
FOT where are you on this?
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Good points jakeo, and Hosstrader I got in at .01 and .011.....
Posted by realityinc21 on :
I am watching for the low now. FOT thanks for the heads up. I got in at .01 and out at .014.
I am going to pick it up at the low and wait. Just like ATCT--.004 IMCH .001 PLNI .003 AKOL .006 SLWF at .014 IGTN at .005. IDVL .0009 to name a few.
Posted by realityinc21 on :
By the way--what happened to the good old ALLSTOCKS I used to know. I don't post much anymore. I just lurk mostly.
Bob where are the monitors?? You never used to let BS go on here. Lets get the old ALLSTOCKS back.
THANKS
Posted by samsam on :
quote:Originally posted by realityinc21: I am watching for the low now. FOT thanks for the heads up. I got in at .01 and out at .014.
I am going to pick it up at the low and wait. Just like ATCT--.004 IMCH .001 PLNI .003 AKOL .006 SLWF at .014 IGTN at .005. IDVL .0009 to name a few.
That's BS. No possible way you got in at .01 and out of .014 These are pink sheets and the only way out is on the bid. The bid never even hit .014 for you to get out. So stop the lies.
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
LOL_---
good ol MOOMOO or follower....
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
yeah there are no monitors as far as I can tell......
This is the next RB
Posted by buckstalker on :
That is exactly what I want to know...this used to be a lot of fun...I am going into the lurk mode myself, and maybe spend more time on another board... Hey momo, omgomg, samsam.... bad idea calling D a liar!!
quote:Originally posted by realityinc21: By the way--what happened to the good old ALLSTOCKS I used to know. I don't post much anymore. I just lurk mostly.
Bob where are the monitors?? You never used to let BS go on here. Lets get the old ALLSTOCKS back.
THANKS
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
samsam.....hello always buying on the bid and selling on the ask......Do it all the time in penny land......A$$!!!
and Yea Diana, WHAT THE heck happened?!!!LOL
Posted by samsam on :
Nice volume today......
Posted by jordanreed on :
samsam--what are you holding and what are your picks?
Posted by realityinc21 on :
I just bought 50000 at .006 for a long hold lotto ticket. It will worth the gamble. After all--penny's are gambling. Win some and lose some.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I contacted WHA and verfied what Jeff said.
The guy was a little skiddish about info as he was not sure what he could and could not tell me. He said they are closing the deal within 2 weeks and the lawyers are finalizing the DD to be sure the shell is clean.
They already have a number of teams lined up. The francaise fee is going to be 4 Million per team. He did not know the exact share count but estimated it to be in the 20 mil range...
GOOD LUCK ALL! I'm IN!
[ September 01, 2005, 12:31: Message edited by: lilpennypincher ]
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
Nice buy Diana & good work lil!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by jakeo: FOT where are you on this?
I am still here... I started lurking a little more, because it seems as though everything I post turns into a negative as MoMo and his crew bash everything I saw bringing nothing but negativity to the board, which I hate to read.
I am glad to hear that Lil was able to verify the same info that I did.
$4mill per team times 10 teams is $40 mill... divided by around 20-30 million shares is somewhere in the $1.33 - $2.00 range pps!
As Diana pointed out, this is a pink sheet lottery ticket, that I am betting on, because I know the history of some pink shells getting filled with assets and exploding in value.. and I am tired of wishing that I got in one before it took off... and I see this as my chance!
As with all pink sheet stocks, I only invest what I am willing to loose, but with this one, I see the rewards far outweighing the risk!
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
Volume is down everywhere. Not just here.....
Posted by SchwarzBiest on :
FOT, I've long ago discovered that the more you try to be nice and help people out, the more people will run you down. It makes no sense, but that's the way it goes. You could have 100 picks in a row that make everybody rich, but the second you post one that doesnt explode, they will turn into a bunch of hypocrites and start blaming you. Nice way to show their thanks, isnt it? Just remember, there are far more people here that appreciate your hard work, than there are people that dont. Sometimes I spend hours researching my stocks, but other times I just dont have the time, and that's when the dd from people like you just becomes all that much more valuable to me. So for what it's worth, most of us are 100% behind you. Thanks for all your great dd, it takes much more time to look up than people think. Here's 5 more stars for ya...
Posted by samsam on :
This will keep dropping. Alot of you down 100% now. Not to mention would of been better off waiting for this stock to drop before you got in. Fatheroftwo's play this month ALWAYS drop after he call's it. So I hope those bags get nice and heavier as the new week comes around. LMAO
Posted by SchwarzBiest on :
It wont let me give any more stars, so I guess you'll have to do without Posted by Jmoove on :
ok pet peave, YOU CANT BE DOWN 100%! that means you have no money left! Alot of us are down 50%, not worried at all, this is a diamond in the rough
Posted by Jerm on :
FOT... I would just like to second what SchwartzBiest posted... thanks for the hard work and sharing it with everone else... after that it is up to each individual to decide what to do from there with their money!
Posted by samsam on :
quote:Originally posted by SchwarzBiest: FOT, I've long ago discovered that the more you try to be nice and help people out, the more people will run you down. It makes no sense, but that's the way it goes. You could have 100 picks in a row that make everybody rich, but the second you post one that doesnt explode, they will turn into a bunch of hypocrites and start blaming you. Nice way to show their thanks, isnt it? Just remember, there are far more people here that appreciate your hard work, than there are people that dont. Sometimes I spend hours researching my stocks, but other times I just dont have the time, and that's when the dd from people like you just becomes all that much more valuable to me. So for what it's worth, most of us are 100% behind you. Thanks for all your great dd, it takes much more time to look up than people think. Here's 5 more stars for ya...
Ummmm All his plays this month have dropped like a rock. He only had maybe 3 good plays since he posted here. And PLNI was the only one that comes to mind. Even people buying PLNI now are taking a big risk. The fact of the matter is people here got to greedy and jumped in to early. Why couldn't they wait for the stock to drop. And if the float is so low why didn't the stock uptick so high the first day called? Reason why is because someone on the inside were selling huge shares. If this was a shell who would have all those shares to sell? Not to mention to have a uptrend you must cover ALL sells before the stock has an upward movement. This play much like all his others are crappy. The DD has nothing to do with how the stock will run. It's the volume that counts vs the amount you can buy.
Posted by samsam on :
quote:Originally posted by Jmoove: ok pet peave, YOU CANT BE DOWN 100%! that means you have no money left! Alot of us are down 50%, not worried at all, this is a diamond in the rough
Key point is everyone here is down. And it's only a diamond when you have to marry it. Bagholders tend to say that alot. Enjoy your heavy bags...... Post some more dd and watch the price fall.
Posted by HossTrader on :
FOT I haven't been around long, but I appreciate what you post.
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by samsam:
quote:Originally posted by SchwarzBiest: FOT, I've long ago discovered that the more you try to be nice and help people out, the more people will run you down. It makes no sense, but that's the way it goes. You could have 100 picks in a row that make everybody rich, but the second you post one that doesnt explode, they will turn into a bunch of hypocrites and start blaming you. Nice way to show their thanks, isnt it? Just remember, there are far more people here that appreciate your hard work, than there are people that dont. Sometimes I spend hours researching my stocks, but other times I just dont have the time, and that's when the dd from people like you just becomes all that much more valuable to me. So for what it's worth, most of us are 100% behind you. Thanks for all your great dd, it takes much more time to look up than people think. Here's 5 more stars for ya...
Ummmm All his plays this month have dropped like a rock. He only had maybe 3 good plays since he posted here. And PLNI was the only one that comes to mind. Even people buying PLNI now are taking a big risk. The fact of the matter is people here got to greedy and jumped in to early. Why couldn't they wait for the stock to drop. And if the float is so low why didn't the stock uptick so high the first day called? Reason why is because someone on the inside were selling huge shares. If this was a shell who would have all those shares to sell? Not to mention to have a uptrend you must cover ALL sells before the stock has an upward movement. This play much like all his others are crappy. The DD has nothing to do with how the stock will run. It's the volume that counts vs the amount you can buy.
See what I mean, 1 post and the personal attacks follow immediately! I apologize to those members of the borad that have to read through this! Sam is not attacking GRDX, he is attacking me personally!
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by samsam: .004/.005 LMAO
Let me guess, you're a Momo suck up??
Posted by The Nice Guy on :
Sam
Please refrain from this. You can either bring your points to counter FOT or sustain your self-respect and move on.
I am hurt a lot by following FOT on two ocassions, but I take the blame for it. I did curse him once to relief my frustration.
This page for INFORMATION and contacts. Dont abuse it please.
Posted by samsam on :
No I am attacking you. And I started posting about your play since yesterday. Why can't you admit that this stock is trash. I lost money and now i am moving on. You on other hand want to blame bashers and not look at the thread you create. You use allstocks to pump your crap. I have sat in stockhideout all day not even a mention about this play. Why? Because you use this board to sell your shares. How can you say "Thank you fatherof2" when you have made no money this month from his plays. For god sake he even pumps that's that have been halted. His next play stand aside and don't buy it. Let it drop then pick up shares.
Posted by realityinc21 on :
GRDX is making a volume move..
Posted by samsam on :
quote:Originally posted by The Nice Guy: Sam
Please refrain from this. You can either bring your points to counter FOT or sustain your self-respect and move on.
I am hurt a lot by following FOT on two ocassions, but I take the blame for it. I did curse him once to relief my frustration.
This page for INFORMATION and contacts. Dont abuse it please.
It's as simple as this. He has a following. People kiss up to him when they aren't even making money from him. Momo and him might have a riff for one another but I just got sick of FO2 play's when will you all see that he isn't the person you think he is... Someone even went as far as to say he made money on this play. Not even possible. Keep losing your money because it's yours not mine. For everyone else who isn't bag holding this play STAY AWAY FROM HIS PLAY. The rest of you have no choice but to hold. So have fun with your DD. I am off this thread and I wish you more volume so you can atleast break even.
Posted by HossTrader on :
quote:Originally posted by samsam: .... I lost money and now i am moving on. ...
You have a funny way of moving on.
Posted by realityinc21 on :
Adminstrators--Get him off of here...Please!!!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
More buys coming in.... some were mine!
Maybe I should thank sam for getting the pps this low for me to buy cheap shares! Posted by firefighterswct on :
Some one is selling alot of shares of this stock SGMS the mm's has been bringing this stock down and even with the amount of buys comming in at .005 he has not moved Has anyone checked to make sure the ceo issent dumping shares !! nopt saying he is but has anyone checked it because everyone in this room right now is down and wouldent be selling but someone who has alot of shares is definitly selling just trying to get some confirmation thanks
Posted by realityinc21 on :
I just bought 200000 at .005 Lotto Lotto
Posted by HossTrader on :
1/4 of the volume so far was myself and a client. Trying to lower my avg. I can't imagine there being much volume until some new news comes out.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
i understand there has been alot of volume on the ask but when there is a lot of volume on the ask and the ask dossent move up that means someone is dumping shares and sometimes its the ceo again not saying it is just trying to get some verification thanks
Posted by firefighterswct on :
i understand there has been alot of volume on the ask but when there is a lot of volume on the ask and the ask dossent move up that means someone is dumping shares and sometimes its the ceo again not saying it is just trying to get some verification thanks
Posted by firefighterswct on :
How did you find that out sam?
I mean something does seem weird ive been watching the stock for a few days now and for some reason SGMS is always running the price down i mean i know for a fact the NITE and SCHB are the biggest mm's for the public and im not sure who SGMS is hardly ever see him and to see him on the bid side at .001 is a little disterbing again im not saying this is true but please someone can you confirm eighther way whats going on befour i decide if i want to get in or not thanks
Posted by samsam on :
Call T&A and you will see that the o/s has increased since the time F02 posted it. The samething happened to WHLI...
Posted by jakeo on :
quote:Originally posted by samsam: This will keep dropping. Alot of you down 100% now. Not to mention would of been better off waiting for this stock to drop before you got in. Fatheroftwo's play this month ALWAYS drop after he call's it. So I hope those bags get nice and heavier as the new week comes around. LMAO
OK your being a complete jackass- nobody is down 100% first off and 2nd you hope our bags get even heavier next week? All i gotta to say to that is **** you *******. Don't ever come on here stating your glad we all lost money and you hope we lose more. I probably have more of this than most people do and will be holding for the long.
Posted by Jmoove on :
i have $400 bucks in this, bagholder? Ill hire you to hold my bags after i get done with IGTN and ICMH
Posted by firefighterswct on :
IGTN doing very very nice today good for you Jmoove hope it works out best for you .
Lil or Fatheroftwo Any confirmation on who is selling all those shares with SGMS today as far back as my l2's will show i can see 1,100,000 shares bought at .005 on the ask and yet no movement on the ask im no pro bye any means and i dont want anyone to loose anymore money and i was interested in getting into this stock but just wanted some sorta confirmation on whats going on with the shares of this stock
Posted by The Nice Guy on :
Ladies & Gentlemen
May I suggest you ignore him. Focus on the positive things.
Best Luck.
Posted by HILANDER on :
quote:Originally posted by Jmoove: i have $400 bucks in this, bagholder? Ill hire you to hold my bags after i get done with IGTN and ICMH
Well at least your IGTN profits will offset your ICMH losses. LOL ICMH is all I got now, gonna ride 'er down like the Titanic. When I want to make money, I'll just go play blackjack. At least I can control what happens there. Actually caught a local casino trying to hit me with a "suspect shoe" the other day. Cut my bets waaaay back, lost every friggin hand. Then I stopped and recalculated my plus/minus and caught it. Cashed out, told the pit boss nice try and got escorted out by security (after I took my 1500 bucks). Not bad for an hour and half's worth of work.
Posted by Jerm on :
Well, I don't know what it means (just got my L2 capabilities today) but SGMS just raised the ask to .02
Posted by Jerm on :
Nevermind... back .005
Posted by Tooka56 on :
I just raised it to .005 so just relax guys and pay no head to that .004. I was only filled 9625 shares on top of that so there's not as many shares available at least today as everyone is saying. Seems to be slightly sticky. Ready to run?
Posted by HossTrader on :
Well someone got almost 1.5 mil at .004!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
It a trick from the books jerm you see he dumped 1.4 mill on the bid at .004 everyone say that then he raised his ask back to .02 then he gave it 5 min droped it back to .005 to see if anyone had there bid up to there to get them ... then he pulled it right back and may do the same once bid goes back up now im not for sure who this is selling but someone with alot of shares please whats your opion Fot or lil thanks guys apreciate your info
Posted by HossTrader on :
quote:Originally posted by Tooka56: I just raised it to .005 so just relax guys and pay no head to that .004. I was only filled 9625 shares on top of that so there's not as many shares available at least today as everyone is saying. Seems to be slightly sticky. Ready to run?
Oh please. After all the hits to him of course he will move. The bid still hasnr come up. So you lower the hype. This stock is POS and you will lose all your cash
Posted by HossTrader on :
quote:Originally posted by samsam: [.... This stock is POS and you will lose all your cash [/QB]
LOL Good to see you have "moved on"
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by samsam:
quote:Originally posted by Tooka56: I just raised it to .005 so just relax guys and pay no head to that .004. I was only filled 9625 shares on top of that so there's not as many shares available at least today as everyone is saying. Seems to be slightly sticky. Ready to run?
Oh please. After all the hits to him of course he will move. The bid still hasnr come up. So you lower the hype. This stock is POS and you will lose all your cash
Momo would be proud of you.
Posted by The Nice Guy on :
So how's it going over here?
Posted by buckstalker on :
Hey Tex...OK except for one of momo's goons (samsam...how original huh) is trying to piss everybody off...not working though!!!
Posted by The Nice Guy on :
guys leave the poor boy alone. he said he was moving on. why bring it again and waste our time on him??
anyways...if any of you made money this week, please do not forget to donate and help those who got hurt by a woman called Katrina:)
Posted by jakeo on :
Along with this yestarday and ICMH today im gonna need some valium as well... yall add me to your mailing list.
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Originally posted by buckstalker: Hey Tex...OK except for one of momo's goons (samsam...how original huh) is trying to piss everybody off...not working though!!!
sam-sam gone-gone, lol
sure, we all know a new handle will emerge, but for now the thread is fresh as a daisy...
As you were, stock soldiers... Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by SchwarzBiest: FOT, I've long ago discovered that the more you try to be nice and help people out, the more people will run you down. It makes no sense, but that's the way it goes. You could have 100 picks in a row that make everybody rich, but the second you post one that doesnt explode, they will turn into a bunch of hypocrites and start blaming you. Nice way to show their thanks, isnt it? Just remember, there are far more people here that appreciate your hard work, than there are people that dont. Sometimes I spend hours researching my stocks, but other times I just dont have the time, and that's when the dd from people like you just becomes all that much more valuable to me. So for what it's worth, most of us are 100% behind you. Thanks for all your great dd, it takes much more time to look up than people think. Here's 5 more stars for ya...
BRAVO!!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
bringing this over!
lilpennypincher Member
Member Rated: posted September 01, 2005 12:20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I contacted WHA and verfied what Jeff said.
The guy was a little skiddish about info as he was not sure what he could and could not tell me. He said they are closing the deal within 2 weeks and the lawyers are finalizing the DD to be sure the shell is clean.
They already have a number of teams lined up. The francaise fee is going to be 4 Million per team. He did not know the exact share count but estimated it to be in the 20 mil range...
GOOD LUCK ALL! I'm IN! ==========================================
FatherOfTwo Member
Member Rated: posted September 01, 2005 12:29 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by jakeo: FOT where are you on this? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am still here... I started lurking a little more, because it seems as though everything I post turns into a negative as MoMo and his crew bash everything I saw bringing nothing but negativity to the board, which I hate to read.
I am glad to hear that Lil was able to verify the same info that I did.
$4mill per team times 10 teams is $40 mill... divided by around 20-30 million shares is somewhere in the $1.33 - $2.00 range pps!
As Diana pointed out, this is a pink sheet lottery ticket, that I am betting on, because I know the history of some pink shells getting filled with assets and exploding in value.. and I am tired of wishing that I got in one before it took off... and I see this as my chance!
As with all pink sheet stocks, I only invest what I am willing to loose, but with this one, I see the rewards far outweighing the risk! ==============================================
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: NEW PAGE: AND NITE ALL! See ya' in the morning'
Author Topic: GRDX & World Hockey Association FatherOfTwo Member
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 09:33 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From a tech perspective, the chart is looking good with the MACD crossing over and the RSI showing oversold.
The reason why I like this company is that they are a pink sheet about to get filled with assets…..The current owner of GRDX is going to “give” a large portion of stock to the new owners and keep a certain percentage of shares for his own personal portfolio, while spinning all the current assets into a new company of which we as GRDX shareholders will receive a Dividend in the new company, while maintaining all our shares of the newly filled shell.
To me, this means that they quickly figured out it was cheaper to acquire some pink she et shell (providing the current owner with a small percentage of shares to keep), fill it with their own assets and obtain their own private financing, than it would be to have an IPO, where the investment bankers pocket a large percentage of the potential offering and proceeds.
In the second pr.... they announce that the current GRDX assets will be cleared out and put into another company. This is because the WHA wants a clean shell without any other baggage to have to deal with! I think that the team owners do not want any other entities, like golf or real estate, to compete with their financing.
Now, everyone knows that the NHL has agreed to a new owners/players contract…
However, how much of a pay cut did the players have to take??? There are going to be a lot of star players upset about losing so much $$$ and could easily be swayed to move if the dollar is right. On top of that, there are plenty of smaller markets dying to get a professional sports team. This is just the start of the new league and may take a year or two to become viable, but they have already done it once before and they can do it again. And with a notable celebrity player as the new commissioner.. Namely the Golden Jet himself… Mr. Bobby Hull…. There will be plenty of investors that he will have access to help get this thing launched!
http://www.primezone.com/newsroom/?d=79422 The World Hockey Association and The U.S. Pro Golf Tour to Merge With Park Hill Capital II, Inc. to Create a Publicly Traded Sports Marketing and Management Company NEW YORK, June 6, 2005 (PRIMEZONE) -- Park Hill Capital II, Inc., a U.S. public company soon to be publicly trading on a U.S. exchange, announced today that after several months of confidential negotiations, it will acquire the World Hockey Association and the U.S. Pro Golf Tour to create a complete professional sports marketing and management company to be renamed Major League Sports Corporation. Under the terms of the acquisition agreement, the company will issue fourteen million common shares to acquire both companies and will complete an initial private placement and public financing of up to $60,000,000 with the services of Finkelstein Capital Inc. of Montreal and Westminster Securities Corporation, a New York Stock Exchange Member. The World Hockey Association first took the sports world by surprise in 1972 launching a very successful attack on the National Hockey League (NHL) by attracting the superstars of the time to play in the new league where a mutual respect of owners, players and fans reigned. This new corporate and financing structure will enable the WHA to launch its operation and effectively revive the sport of professional hockey, with a minimum of six teams in cities yet to be announced, in time for the 2005 and 2006 season. Hockey Hall of Famer Bobby Hull is at the center stage of this rebirth serving as the new league's commissioner. Mr. Hull and his associates bring an abundance of hockey experience together with a refined business model strategically aligned with the economics of today's professional sport industry. With the financial backing of investors in place, the WHA is in a unique position to attract star players, like in its previous life when Wayne Gretzky, Mike Gartner, Gordie Howe, Paul Henderson, Rejean Houle, Norm Ullman and Frank Mahovlich, all played for the league. "After already receiving hundreds of current NHL, AHL and other league player inquiries, we expect that a good number of both star players and up and comers will join us in this new and exciting rebirth of both the WHA and the sport of professional hockey. We believe they will welcome this new league, one that respects fans, players, shareholders, sponsors and perhaps most importantly, the integrity of the game," said Richard Smith, President of the WHA. www.worldhockeyassociation.net The business model of the WHA includes plans to expand over the next 5 years with up to 16 franchises in North America and 16 in Europe. Revenue sharing between home and away teams will be implemented and corporate sponsorship will play a significant role in bringing professional hockey back to the fans.
Grand Lux, Inc. Signs Letter of Intent to Purchase World Hockey Association Corporation ORLANDO, FL -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 07/18/2005 -- Grand Lux Inc. (OTC: GRDX), today announced that it has signed an letter of intent (LOI) with World Hockey Association Corporation to purchase the company for stock. Upon completion, the present board of directors of Grand Lux, Inc. will resign and be replaced by the directors of World Hockey Association, which includes among others R. (Butch) Goring and Robert Marvin Hull. Grand Lux, Inc. will be spinning out all current assets into Marinas International Inc. and will provide Grand Lux, Inc. shareholder a one (1) share dividend of Marinas International Inc., for every ten (10) shares of GRDX. The Marinas International Inc. new symbol and dates will be announced in the near future as they become available. About Grand Lux, Inc. Grand Lux, Inc. is a company that focuses on upscale real estate development around the world. Its emphasis is on building marinas for large yachts, being 160 feet and above, and developing and pre-selling real estate whether condos or villas to the yacht owners. The benefits of our company offerings are manifold. It is a recession-proof industry and many yacht owners have already expressed a strong interest in purchasing berths in the marinas. Thus, appropriate real estate will be developed to meet their needs.
FatherOfTwo Member
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 11:18 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Over the last few days of my doing research, I spoke with some WHA people and have been told that the WHA DD of the GRDX shell is nearing completion and news of the closing will come out in the coming weeks.
They are planning on around 10-15 franchises with a franchise fee cost of about $4-6 million per team.
Added to that, the O/S count of GRDX is appx 20-30 million, once closed and filled with assets, this will bring tremendous value to the GRDX shareholder. Add to that a stock dividend for the Marina International company, it is a double win situation!
-------------------- Two wrongs don't make a right but 3 lefts do!
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 11:24 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Holy crap FOT.....If you do the math....When they close the deal fill the shell..It's looking at about a buck a share....Is that right? That's what I'm coming up with..Great DD and thanks again! -----------------------------------------------
FatherOfTwo Member
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 11:28 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10 teams @ $4 million per team is $40 Million
divide by the O/S count of 20-30 million and you get $1.33-$2.00 per share!
I can wait a couple weeks and let them do their business! SPRL.... was dead quite before it was filled and ran huge!
Remember what happend when this shell got filled! Tee-Hee-Hee!
and this one had little volume as well!
LOL Again read what happened when this shell got filled!
.06 to almost $20.00 and almost noone paid any attention to it.....
all in 3 months... from .10 to 12.00 IN 3 DAYS! GOTTA' LOVE THAT!!!!!! Not saying that this will do what SPEA did but, Don't doubt a shell...Never know what can happen. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Posted by Rules on :
Heck at .004, I am thinking about purchasing some of this stock as the risk window in my opinion has greatly diminished. I had a bad feeling when it was up over .01 and I have a great feeling at .004 and 5. May try to add this to my portfolio tomorrow if the big seller at .004 shows up again.
Posted by pennies2what? on :
Excuse me...has anyone called or verified any of this info? I'm interested I just need a little more info to make my decision.
P2W
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Read the BIG DD above....FOT in the beginning and I called myself, Just yesterday.
[ September 02, 2005, 07:53: Message edited by: lilpennypincher ]
Posted by pennies2what? on :
Sorry...Didn't see it. Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
Is it just me or is this not moving today?
Posted by HossTrader on :
Glaciers move faster than this one is today.
Posted by pensandoenti67 on :
Yeah wnat a 5x bagger check out ILCO next 10 days... better than BCIT.
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
Well, I still have faith in GRDX even though many here may not. I have seen a couple pink sheet stocks get filled and then explode and I don't want to miss the opportunity.
A few have PM'd me asking about the shares etc... and I will try and explain it here.....
1) Before the WHA deal closes, GRDX will be cleared out of all assets, essentially making the shells value nearly ZERO (it is an empty shell, but it does have some intrinsic value)!
2) The assets currently housed in GRDX will be relocated/transferred to a new company Marinas International, which I will receive X amount of shares for every X amount of GRDX shares that I own. I will still own all of the "seemingly" worthless shares of GRDX as before, but I will get a stock dividend in the new company, so now I own stock in 2 companies.
3) At the time of closing, all the WHA assets will be moved into the EMPTY shell, thus filling it with tangible assets and giving it a VALUE!
4) A BIG PR is released announcing that the WHA is now a publicly trading corporation trading on the pink sheets (and we see a huge spike in pps, IMHO).
5) The next step after the WHA closes the deal, will be to change their stock symbol and name to closely align it with themselves.
6) After that, I would expect that they would want to move to a higher exchange to bring in larger institutional investors, which will be one of the keys to their success.
Posted by BuyTex on :
It's what's known as a "shell play," and *can* be quite profitable, one of the legit multi-bag play in pennies.
Btw, FoT, I disagree with one point: a "clean" shell *does* have intrinsic value by its very nature and the savings over the option of taking a private company public through the IPO process.
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: It's what's known as a "shell play," and *can* be quite profitable, one of the legit multi-bag play in pennies.
Btw, FoT, I disagree with one point: a "clean" shell *does* have intrinsic value by its very nature and the savings over the option of taking a private company public through the IPO process.
This is true... just look at the headache that QBID is going through now to "Clean" their shell that they bought! A premium should be paid for a shell that does not have skeletons in the closet!
Once it gets a clean bill of health from the attorneys, then they can close! I've bought my $1000 lottery ticket... that I believe one day could be worth a couple hundred grand! Posted by Jmoove on :
Im with you FOT, Ive missed too many of these Shell fills, they almost ALWAYS go up in my experience, especially from the level that this is at
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Any time frame on all of this FO2?
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by firefighterswct: Any time frame on all of this FO2?
When I talked to them last week, he mentioned the proverbial "within a couple weeks".
My guess is before the end of September. One clue that I have been trying to follow up on, is the application by Marinas International for trading. When they clear out the shell, they have to put the assets somewhere, and I believe that it will be a publicly traded company as it said in the PR, so they have to make application for a new listing at some time. I think that this will be the real clue as to exactly when it will happen.
If anyone else knows where to find links to listing application information, please post it here!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
k thanks im going to hold off for a lil while befour i get in but i will be keeping on eye on this stock soon as theres a little bit better of a confirmed time frame ill probably get in best of luck guys
Posted by jakeo on :
So its gonna be a gradual PPS rise when/b4 it converts then shortly after that BAMMM! GOOOOALLLLLLLLL!!!! As they say in hockey...
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
closer and closer it comes. All looking good from where I sit.
Now go back and read FOT's post again......Forget it....I'll bring it down here.
1) Before the WHA deal closes, GRDX will be cleared out of all assets, essentially making the shells value nearly ZERO (it is an empty shell, but it does have some intrinsic value)!
2) The assets currently housed in GRDX will be relocated/transferred to a new company Marinas International, which I will receive X amount of shares for every X amount of GRDX shares that I own. I will still own all of the "seemingly" worthless shares of GRDX as before, but I will get a stock dividend in the new company, so now I own stock in 2 companies.
3) At the time of closing, all the WHA assets will be moved into the EMPTY shell, thus filling it with tangible assets and giving it a VALUE!
4) A BIG PR is released announcing that the WHA is now a publicly trading corporation trading on the pink sheets (and we see a huge spike in pps, IMHO).
5) The next step after the WHA closes the deal, will be to change their stock symbol and name to closely align it with themselves.
6) After that, I would expect that they would want to move to a higher exchange to bring in larger institutional investors, which will be one of the keys to their success. Posted by HossTrader on :
I figure this is a pure gamble, but with better odds than the lotto. I am in. I will either lose 100% of my investment (which wasn't that much in the grand scheme of things), or I will retire a little earlier than planned!
Posted by HossTrader on :
BTW, is this the Marinas International that they are buying/merging with?
Ask moving up this morning.....News should be out soon.......
Posted by jordanreed on :
could you tell me why or how the ask can move up with no volume?
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: could you tell me why or how the ask can move up with no volume?
Just take note of who is posting and that should be enough. I have found that she tends to pump bogus info and repeat postings to get others to buy in so that she can make money. Just beware of who the group players are who claim differently!
Posted by Tooka56 on :
Lil, I have no L2's for GRDX. Please fill me in.
Posted by prefect on :
bid .0045 x 1 .0041 x 1 .0040 x 2 .0030 x 6
ask .005 x 1 .006 x 1 .01 x 1 .014 x 1
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules:
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: could you tell me why or how the ask can move up with no volume?
Just take note of who is posting and that should be enough. I have found that she tends to pump bogus info and repeat postings to get others to buy in so that she can make money. Just beware of who the group players are who claim differently!
Sorry RULES you POS......Did you not get in my IDVL yesterday.....Hmm........ Get the F off of my bandwagon..... I posted that when I saw the L2 ASK go from .005 to .006..... WHERE!!!!!!!!? DID I POST BOGUS INFO!!! AGAIN YOU SLITHERING, SLIMY!!!! POS! DON'T F WITH ME>>>>>I'M IN NO MOOD!!!!!
Posted by will on :
Hey lil', relax. LOL Nice move on IDVL. Don't worry yuorself, some folks don't get the shell play thing, it's ok. Most of them go pretty well when they fill. Good luck.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
thanks will. Sorry...I just can't stand when some come on a thread just to bash it's posters...Pis s s s e s ME OFF! Made great bank on IDVL but, Had some not so good news today as well.....Just would love this POS to get off my ass alerady....
Good day all....
Posted by SeattleWriter3d on :
I wouldn't let it worry you Lil....those of us that have been here for any amount of time let your DD stand for what it is, NOBODY should be buying on just your word anyway personally I am very thankful for the DD of both you and FO2 and some I play, some I don't but ALWAYS apprciate all the hard work. I'm of the belief if you don't respond to the bashers who are just getting off trying to get a rise out of you, they will go away. Those of us that have been here reading your postings for a long time know you are not a pumper but a strong poster with strong DD and always willing to give out any info you find.....so hang strong and don't let those guys bring down your mood!
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules:
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: could you tell me why or how the ask can move up with no volume?
Just take note of who is posting and that should be enough. I have found that she tends to pump bogus info and repeat postings to get others to buy in so that she can make money. Just beware of who the group players are who claim differently!
This guy must be Momo's butt buddy. Why don't you go back to your group and pump you know who.
Posted by jordanreed on :
all i did was ask a simple question--- didnt mean to offend anyone. sorry if i did.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
jordan.....I don't think he was referring to you...LOL Buttttt.....to RULES......
LOL
Thanks guys......Just having a little personal meltdown......
I'll be OK tomorrow!
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: jordan.....I don't think he was referring to you...LOL Buttttt.....to RULES......
LOL
Thanks guys......Just having a little personal meltdown......
I'll be OK tomorrow!
Jordon - was not directed at you. Sorry if you thought so.
Posted by SeattleWriter3d on :
It always looks better in the morning doesn't it......and yes I was referring to Rules it's getting kinda sad around here when there is just as much bashing going on as DD and good postings. Hopefully it won't be enough to push the good posters away.
Posted by HossTrader on :
Ok, I think today had to be the lowest volume I think I have ever seen on any stock that actually traded that day
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by SeattleWriter3d: It always looks better in the morning doesn't it......and yes I was referring to Rules it's getting kinda sad around here when there is just as much bashing going on as DD and good postings. Hopefully it won't be enough to push the good posters away.
Where did I bash the stock? The stock is not the problem, the problem is those who pump and dump. In Momo's case he was right.
Posted by HossTrader on :
Status change on the WHA web site. Not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. Probably good, but not as good as the full blown top level pro league would have been.
quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: Status change on the WHA web site. Not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. Probably good, but not as good as the full blown top level pro league would have been.
I am still holding and if I can free up some cash.. I will add to my position!
Once they announce the closing of the deal and filling of the shell.. it easily will be worth a lot more than where it is trading now.
I have received a few PM's from people concerning this stock...
In summary, here is what will happen:
1) The current assets in the stock will be relocated into a new stock named Marinas International... 2) For every 10 shares of GRDX that I own, I will receive 1 share of this new company. 3) The WHA will fill the empty shell with their assets 4) The WHA will immediately file for a change in ticker symbol 5) Eventually the WHA will file an appliation to move to a higher exchange!
So, since right now I own 300k shares of GRDX, after the closing, I will own 300k shares of the publicly traded WHA (listed as GRDX), and 30k of a new company called Marinas International!
Hope this helps clear things up for some!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
L2 ask...
Schb @ .006 Sgms @ .01 <--- He has been on the ask for the last week and finally jumped off!
Posted by jakeo on :
This thing is starting to look alot better!!! FOT, any timeframe on when we can expect or do they keep saying "In a couple weeks"? Whats their phone number btw?
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
I pulled the phone number off the website before it changed to the splash that it is now. sorry but it is not in my cellphone memory anymore!
They told me a couple weeks which I took to mean mid to end of september!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by FatherOfTwo:
quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: Status change on the WHA web site. Not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. Probably good, but not as good as the full blown top level pro league would have been.
TRYOUT CAMP WILL BE AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER IN SOUTHERN ONTARIO
If they are having tryouts by the end of september, they will have to have the teams set up before that.....
Things are all falling into place and looking good for a killer PR anyday!
Posted by HossTrader on :
It looks like someone is cutting their losses. There is actually a little volume today.
Posted by jordanreed on :
and down we go---this stinks
Posted by Rules on :
.003 what do the L2s look like?
Posted by Jmoove on :
lots of support at 30, im going to buy at 40 tomorrow if i can
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
This is what always happens....(AND I'M NOT DOING IT) Folks hold on and hold on....they can't take it anymore and SELL. Then...KA-BOOM! News comes and you say.....DAM! Shoulda', Coulda's......Not me....It's coming closer and closer....
FatherOfTwo Member
Member Rated: posted September 12, 2005 16:38
Originally posted by FatherOfTwo:
quote: If they are having tryouts by the end of september, they will have to have the teams set up before that.....
Things are all falling into place and looking good for a killer PR anyday! Posted by lilpennypincher on :
And don't let me forget to say....DO YOU KNOW WHAT SOME SHELLS DO WHEN THEY GET FILLED?
This is what happens when a pink sheet gets filled with some assets!
FatherOfTwo Member
Member Rated: posted August 30, 2005 11:28 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10 teams @ $4 million per team is $40 Million
divide by the O/S count of 20-30 million and you get $1.33-$2.00 per share!
I can wait a couple weeks and let them do their business! SPRL.... was dead quite before it was filled and ran huge!
Posted by jordanreed on :
thats all old news.. we need something new that will push this now. you talk of sprl... we understand that MAY happen..but that is only one stock out of hundreds that never move. if and when this shell gets filled then it should move. until then, we are stuck. every pink says they have a bright future. I will hold off singing the praises until i actually see positive results. we all played the game that lil and fot put out there and it didnt work. im sure no one wanted to hold this long. we wanted the quick spike up and it didnt work. was this a sort of group play that backfired? methinks so
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: thats all old news.. we need something new that will push this now. you talk of sprl... we understand that MAY happen..but that is only one stock out of hundreds that never move. if and when this shell gets filled then it should move. until then, we are stuck. every pink says they have a bright future. I will hold off singing the praises until i actually see positive results. we all played the game that lil and fot put out there and it didnt work. im sure no one wanted to hold this long. we wanted the quick spike up and it didnt work. was this a sort of group play that backfired? methinks so
This isn't a group play. Are you whining? me thinks so.
Posted by jordanreed on :
no whining here- just venting. maybe putting things in my perspective. but whining? I dont whine-- piss and moan a little tho. are you another member of the chearleading squad? lol
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
jordan, If you read the first page it clearly states that this is a few week hold. You state that all expected a spike....I NEVER STATED IT WAS A DAYTRADE!
Go back and read the first 2 pages where it states "A FEW WEEKS"! That is not old news either. AGAIN IT STATED A FEW WEEKS!!!!!!
Ra-Ra! Don't spend your lunch money......I'm in and waiting for the news.....AGAIN! 2 weeks ago...it was state in a few weeks......My goodness.....
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: no whining here- just venting. maybe putting things in my perspective. but whining? I dont whine-- piss and moan a little tho. are you another member of the chearleading squad? lol
Not a member - just know how the market works and don't blame anyone but myself when I lose.
Posted by jordanreed on :
ok,ok. settle down.ive been in the pennies about 3 yrs and know fairly well how they work. am not blaming anyone- just myself. i am holding this and will continue to do so. i was in this from the beginning and was hoping for a quick gain. knew it could turn into a LTH if the initial push didnt happen. prs look good for the future. maybe sooner than later. hope so. after rereading the first page it seems many people felt the same way. looking for the quick buck. even lil,fot, and clyde. now, i luv you all and wish peace,happiness, and prosperity to everyone.
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: ok,ok. settle down.ive been in the pennies about 3 yrs and know fairly well how they work. am not blaming anyone- just myself. i am holding this and will continue to do so. i was in this from the beginning and was hoping for a quick gain. knew it could turn into a LTH if the initial push didnt happen. prs look good for the future. maybe sooner than later. hope so. after rereading the first page it seems many people felt the same way. looking for the quick buck. even lil,fot, and clyde. now, i luv you all and wish peace,happiness, and prosperity to everyone.
That's the jordanreed we know. Posted by jordanreed on :
thanks Clyde
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Ok.....Re-group.....We luv ya' too.....Everyone is on edge with this one...I'm down 125% with A WHOLE LOT OF SHARES!!! I know how you feel.....Just feel as the reward out ways the risk on this one.
Posted by HossTrader on :
This is a lotto stock. I think everyone knew that. We aren't investing in the company and how they run their business. We are investing in the chance that this reverse buy out thingy swaps it with a company that is worth more. So we bought our lotto tickets and now we either score big or lose the price of admission!
At least we have a little volume today and it doesn't seem to be dropping much further!
Posted by Ross on :
ATEG was a no value shell until yesterday....got filled with assets today and see it rise this morning.... goin' crazy, already up by 600%....
cheer up ppl.........
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Try up over 1000% WOW! I'm taking the chance here!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by Ross: ATEG was a no value shell until yesterday....got filled with assets today and see it rise this morning.... goin' crazy, already up by 600%....
cheer up ppl.........
GRDX will have its day in the spotlight... patience. This is like going to a dance and being the first one there! Showing up for just the last dance can be fun, but who knows what you would've missed!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
b x a moved up on a 10k trade ($40)....
once people realize what shell filling does to the pps, they will see GRDX for what it is capable of!
Posted by Jmoove on :
gonna throw an order in at 50 for 30k
Posted by HossTrader on :
Could someone post the l2's?
Posted by Jmoove on :
ok 34k, an extra 180 bucks in my account, cant just let it sit there! :-)
filled
Posted by jakeo on :
Thanks Jmoove- my portfolio is very appericative.
Posted by Jmoove on :
35x50 3x1
and im half the vol today! lol
Posted by HossTrader on :
LOL Thanks!
Posted by HossTrader on :
If they develop any kind of volume on this with some news, it will pop
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
I picked up another 30K of this yesterday; this is a good time to accumulate IMO
Posted by Tooka56 on :
I agree with you Magnetic. I hope this is a parallel story to ATEG!
Posted by coldmoney on :
ATEG turned out to be a call by both Nemo and Momo I believe last month. The Pr they mentioned in there thread last month never came out but it did today. The stock did very well and I am happy to see alot of people made money. I think the reason why alot of people arent talking about it is because Momo was behind it.
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by FatherOfTwo: From a tech perspective, the chart is looking good with the MACD crossing over and the RSI showing oversold.
The reason why I like this company is that they are a pink sheet about to get filled with assets…..The current owner of GRDX is going to “give” a large portion of stock to the new owners and keep a certain percentage of shares for his own personal portfolio, while spinning all the current assets into a new company of which we as GRDX shareholders will receive a Dividend in the new company, while maintaining all our shares of the newly filled shell.
To me, this means that they quickly figured out it was cheaper to acquire some pink sheet shell (providing the current owner with a small percentage of shares to keep), fill it with their own assets and obtain their own private financing, than it would be to have an IPO, where the investment bankers pocket a large percentage of the potential offering and proceeds.
In the second pr.... they announce that the current GRDX assets will be cleared out and put into another company. This is because the WHA wants a clean shell without any other baggage to have to deal with! I think that the team owners do not want any other entities, like golf or real estate, to compete with their financing.
In a follow up phone conversation with Mark Mckelvie (VP of the league) he confirmed that they terminated the IPO idea and went with the pink sheet shell because it was significantly cheaper and they could get it done quicker.
I am guessing that the announcement will come before the end of September, and the timeframe that I am basing it on is during my phone conversation, it was mentioned that the closing was to take place in about 2 weeks or so (from my call date of 9/1) which puts it at 9/15 - 9/30.
Now, the league has decided to not compete directly with the NHL by starting a junior hockey league in the US and Europe. The Franchise fees for these teams are in the $4-6 million dollar range and we know there are at least 6 teams right away! That is $24-36 million dollars of revenue for the league right off the bat, not included sponsorships and other revenues. Put that kind of money into a shell with 20-30 mill O/S and you are looking at a pps of $1.00 - 2.00 easily!
Everyone saw today what happens when a shell gets filled... and not many people knew of ATEG, but we have concrete info through a PR stating that this shell is getting FILLED! This seems like a No-brainer to me!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Actually FOT i talked with someone on the phone today to check up with a time frame and if the deal was Confirmed or not yet you know as i stated to you that i may be interested in investing in the company . and he would not give me a concrete time frame of the buyout nor did he even confirm that it was finalized yet .... he said that yes a letter of intent was signed and talks where underway but thats all he would say i asked him if the deal was 100% yet and he said no " talks are still underway" so i then asked him about if the talked where under way what are we looking for as a time frame ... he said another pr would be realeased befour the stock was filled with the new assetts stating exactly how many o/s there will be the exact vaule of the company taking over the shares etc . So again i asked him well what time frame would we be looking at for the pr if talks went through good !! he wouldent give me an exact date but he said befour the new year im gonna guesse that means befour Jan 2006 if thats what he ment by the new year . Unless there financial year is differant and thats what he ment but idk . I asked him about the recent share decline in his stock and what has caused it and what direction he thought it would go . He said people are nervouse about the deal possibly not going through and they are selling just on nerves . " he kinda sounded like he made that up in his head just to give me an answer" i also asked why someone was selling aton of stock at .005 a week or so ago and asked him if that was dilution he said no to dilution but wouldent explain the selling any further. My next question was if the stock deal where to go through it would be us keeping the stock plus getting a divident of the old stock he said yes , if the deal went through that would be true . My final question was where do you think the pps would be in the month to 3 months he dident give me a solid answer he said he dident really have a sound pps but was hoping that everything went through with the deal and the stock would be much higher then it is now.
My personal thoughts after talking to John is that he seemed like he was in the blue.... he had some good answers to my questions but yet some he seemed like he pulled outta his azz .
My personal position is that i may may place a order on the bid but im definitly not jumping on the ask.. when i was talking with FO2 via pm i was thinking of taking a much larger position in this company but after talking to john today i think i may just place a bid at .0035 and let them come down to me looking at the charts and how this thing moves it could move up 66% in one day like it did today and then come right back down with a few solid sells what does worry me about this stock is that if the deal dossent go through its going to be a tough time to get out i say the bid of .004 last week or so collasp with just a few sells and if .003 gets hit the same way im worried it may also fall . So as of right now im going to sit and watch it if it falls to me ill get in but i dont think im going to chase this one up . alright guys have a good night and here is the contact information
Jonathan McPherson 10151 University Blvd. Orlando, Florida 32617 Phone: 212-561-0762
Posted by prefect on :
tried all day to get more at 40 but no luck...ah well.
Posted by Phoenixx on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: ATEG turned out to be a call by both Nemo and Momo I believe last month. The Pr they mentioned in there thread last month never came out but it did today. The stock did very well and I am happy to see alot of people made money. I think the reason why alot of people arent talking about it is because Momo was behind it.
Keithsan has been talkin' about the stock a good bit -- since at least August 15th..wish I had had cash to put into it, cause I would have gotten in at least at .0060 Posted by bgrance on :
Is it too late to get in?
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by firefighterswct: Actually FOT i talked with someone on the phone today to check up with a time frame and if the deal was Confirmed or not yet you know as i stated to you that i may be interested in investing in the company . and he would not give me a concrete time frame of the buyout nor did he even confirm that it was finalized yet .... he said that yes a letter of intent was signed and talks where underway but thats all he would say i asked him if the deal was 100% yet and he said no " talks are still underway" so i then asked him about if the talked where under way what are we looking for as a time frame ... he said another pr would be realeased befour the stock was filled with the new assetts stating exactly how many o/s there will be the exact vaule of the company taking over the shares etc . So again i asked him well what time frame would we be looking at for the pr if talks went through good !! he wouldent give me an exact date but he said befour the new year im gonna guesse that means befour Jan 2006 if thats what he ment by the new year . Unless there financial year is differant and thats what he ment but idk . I asked him about the recent share decline in his stock and what has caused it and what direction he thought it would go . He said people are nervouse about the deal possibly not going through and they are selling just on nerves . " he kinda sounded like he made that up in his head just to give me an answer" i also asked why someone was selling aton of stock at .005 a week or so ago and asked him if that was dilution he said no to dilution but wouldent explain the selling any further. My next question was if the stock deal where to go through it would be us keeping the stock plus getting a divident of the old stock he said yes , if the deal went through that would be true . My final question was where do you think the pps would be in the month to 3 months he dident give me a solid answer he said he dident really have a sound pps but was hoping that everything went through with the deal and the stock would be much higher then it is now.
My personal thoughts after talking to John is that he seemed like he was in the blue.... he had some good answers to my questions but yet some he seemed like he pulled outta his azz .
My personal position is that i may may place a order on the bid but im definitly not jumping on the ask.. when i was talking with FO2 via pm i was thinking of taking a much larger position in this company but after talking to john today i think i may just place a bid at .0035 and let them come down to me looking at the charts and how this thing moves it could move up 66% in one day like it did today and then come right back down with a few solid sells what does worry me about this stock is that if the deal dossent go through its going to be a tough time to get out i say the bid of .004 last week or so collasp with just a few sells and if .003 gets hit the same way im worried it may also fall . So as of right now im going to sit and watch it if it falls to me ill get in but i dont think im going to chase this one up . alright guys have a good night and here is the contact information
Jonathan McPherson 10151 University Blvd. Orlando, Florida 32617 Phone: 212-561-0762
Thanks for the added info and follow up. It sounds like it is going to take time to negotiate the deal. This may not be a two week or this month play but more of a longer time frame if he is hoping for some kind of deal before the end of the year.
Posted by corndo on :
End of year? That really sucks. We'll be on the hook until December.
Question: if you have 50K shares right now, what will happen to your pps if they announce a dilution of the stock to an o/s of 10x what it is now? I mean, won't they want to raise some type of money by increasing the float?
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by firefighterswct: Actually FOT i talked with someone on the phone today to check up with a time frame and if the deal was Confirmed or not yet you know as i stated to you that i may be interested in investing in the company . and he would not give me a concrete time frame of the buyout nor did he even confirm that it was finalized yet .... he said that yes a letter of intent was signed and talks where underway but thats all he would say i asked him if the deal was 100% yet and he said no " talks are still underway" so i then asked him about if the talked where under way what are we looking for as a time frame ... he said another pr would be realeased befour the stock was filled with the new assetts stating exactly how many o/s there will be the exact vaule of the company taking over the shares etc . So again i asked him well what time frame would we be looking at for the pr if talks went through good !! he wouldent give me an exact date but he said befour the new year im gonna guesse that means befour Jan 2006 if thats what he ment by the new year . Unless there financial year is differant and thats what he ment but idk . I asked him about the recent share decline in his stock and what has caused it and what direction he thought it would go . He said people are nervouse about the deal possibly not going through and they are selling just on nerves . " he kinda sounded like he made that up in his head just to give me an answer" i also asked why someone was selling aton of stock at .005 a week or so ago and asked him if that was dilution he said no to dilution but wouldent explain the selling any further. My next question was if the stock deal where to go through it would be us keeping the stock plus getting a divident of the old stock he said yes , if the deal went through that would be true . My final question was where do you think the pps would be in the month to 3 months he dident give me a solid answer he said he dident really have a sound pps but was hoping that everything went through with the deal and the stock would be much higher then it is now.
My personal thoughts after talking to John is that he seemed like he was in the blue.... he had some good answers to my questions but yet some he seemed like he pulled outta his azz .
My personal position is that i may may place a order on the bid but im definitly not jumping on the ask.. when i was talking with FO2 via pm i was thinking of taking a much larger position in this company but after talking to john today i think i may just place a bid at .0035 and let them come down to me looking at the charts and how this thing moves it could move up 66% in one day like it did today and then come right back down with a few solid sells what does worry me about this stock is that if the deal dossent go through its going to be a tough time to get out i say the bid of .004 last week or so collasp with just a few sells and if .003 gets hit the same way im worried it may also fall . So as of right now im going to sit and watch it if it falls to me ill get in but i dont think im going to chase this one up . alright guys have a good night and here is the contact information
Jonathan McPherson 10151 University Blvd. Orlando, Florida 32617 Phone: 212-561-0762
Will try to verify this today. Doesn't sound right.
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by firefighterswct: Actually FOT i talked with someone on the phone today to check up with a time frame and if the deal was Confirmed or not yet you know as i stated to you that i may be interested in investing in the company . and he would not give me a concrete time frame of the buyout nor did he even confirm that it was finalized yet .... he said that yes a letter of intent was signed and talks where underway but thats all he would say i asked him if the deal was 100% yet and he said no " talks are still underway" so i then asked him about if the talked where under way what are we looking for as a time frame ... he said another pr would be realeased befour the stock was filled with the new assetts stating exactly how many o/s there will be the exact vaule of the company taking over the shares etc . So again i asked him well what time frame would we be looking at for the pr if talks went through good !! he wouldent give me an exact date but he said befour the new year im gonna guesse that means befour Jan 2006 if thats what he ment by the new year . Unless there financial year is differant and thats what he ment but idk . I asked him about the recent share decline in his stock and what has caused it and what direction he thought it would go . He said people are nervouse about the deal possibly not going through and they are selling just on nerves . " he kinda sounded like he made that up in his head just to give me an answer" i also asked why someone was selling aton of stock at .005 a week or so ago and asked him if that was dilution he said no to dilution but wouldent explain the selling any further. My next question was if the stock deal where to go through it would be us keeping the stock plus getting a divident of the old stock he said yes , if the deal went through that would be true . My final question was where do you think the pps would be in the month to 3 months he dident give me a solid answer he said he dident really have a sound pps but was hoping that everything went through with the deal and the stock would be much higher then it is now.
My personal thoughts after talking to John is that he seemed like he was in the blue.... he had some good answers to my questions but yet some he seemed like he pulled outta his azz .
My personal position is that i may may place a order on the bid but im definitly not jumping on the ask.. when i was talking with FO2 via pm i was thinking of taking a much larger position in this company but after talking to john today i think i may just place a bid at .0035 and let them come down to me looking at the charts and how this thing moves it could move up 66% in one day like it did today and then come right back down with a few solid sells what does worry me about this stock is that if the deal dossent go through its going to be a tough time to get out i say the bid of .004 last week or so collasp with just a few sells and if .003 gets hit the same way im worried it may also fall . So as of right now im going to sit and watch it if it falls to me ill get in but i dont think im going to chase this one up . alright guys have a good night and here is the contact information
Jonathan McPherson 10151 University Blvd. Orlando, Florida 32617 Phone: 212-561-0762
Fire,
I see you spoke with the CEO of GRDX (Marinas International) which is good to see... I have attempted to speak with him, however, he never answered or returned phone messages.
I am not surprised by the answers that you received when talked to him. Most if not all the questions would be giving you insider information and he is not allowed to divulge any of it.
Buyout timeframe.... he can not give you an exact date, timeframe in general is probably ok... and his response of before the end of the year... well OK. If it happens earlier, he is the hero and if not well then, he nailed it. My thought is that the WHA needs the financial structure of a publicly traded company to raise capital and get investors. The person I spoke with obviously is a former hockey player and does not fully understand what he was allowed to say and not say!
Stock decline.... well, the guy may not know. You asked him if he was diluting and he said "NO". If he is selling shares is not insider information, and he is allowed to say this... so I would believe him. If anything, I almost suspect that he may have provided some unrestricted shares to an investmenet group so that he could raise capital to do the paperwork and filing for a new company, ticker, etc!
You then asked him about a pps in a couple months if it gets filled. That is not a fair question to him because he will no longer control the company and what they are doing. That would be like me selling you my house and someone asking me how much is it worth 3 months after you move in... when I have no idea what you will be doing to it like adding a pool, finishing the basement, etc!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by firefighterswct: Actually FOT i talked with someone on the phone today to check up with a time frame and if the deal was Confirmed or not yet you know as i stated to you that i may be interested in investing in the company . and he would not give me a concrete time frame of the buyout nor did he even confirm that it was finalized yet .... he said that yes a letter of intent was signed and talks where underway but thats all he would say i asked him if the deal was 100% yet and he said no " talks are still underway" so i then asked him about if the talked where under way what are we looking for as a time frame ... he said another pr would be realeased befour the stock was filled with the new assetts stating exactly how many o/s there will be the exact vaule of the company taking over the shares etc . So again i asked him well what time frame would we be looking at for the pr if talks went through good !! he wouldent give me an exact date but he said befour the new year im gonna guesse that means befour Jan 2006 if thats what he ment by the new year . Unless there financial year is differant and thats what he ment but idk . I asked him about the recent share decline in his stock and what has caused it and what direction he thought it would go . He said people are nervouse about the deal possibly not going through and they are selling just on nerves . " he kinda sounded like he made that up in his head just to give me an answer" i also asked why someone was selling aton of stock at .005 a week or so ago and asked him if that was dilution he said no to dilution but wouldent explain the selling any further. My next question was if the stock deal where to go through it would be us keeping the stock plus getting a divident of the old stock he said yes , if the deal went through that would be true . My final question was where do you think the pps would be in the month to 3 months he dident give me a solid answer he said he dident really have a sound pps but was hoping that everything went through with the deal and the stock would be much higher then it is now.
My personal thoughts after talking to John is that he seemed like he was in the blue.... he had some good answers to my questions but yet some he seemed like he pulled outta his azz .
My personal position is that i may may place a order on the bid but im definitly not jumping on the ask.. when i was talking with FO2 via pm i was thinking of taking a much larger position in this company but after talking to john today i think i may just place a bid at .0035 and let them come down to me looking at the charts and how this thing moves it could move up 66% in one day like it did today and then come right back down with a few solid sells what does worry me about this stock is that if the deal dossent go through its going to be a tough time to get out i say the bid of .004 last week or so collasp with just a few sells and if .003 gets hit the same way im worried it may also fall . So as of right now im going to sit and watch it if it falls to me ill get in but i dont think im going to chase this one up . alright guys have a good night and here is the contact information
Jonathan McPherson 10151 University Blvd. Orlando, Florida 32617 Phone: 212-561-0762
Fire,
I see you spoke with the CEO of GRDX (Marinas International) which is good to see... I have attempted to speak with him, however, he never answered or returned phone messages.
I am not surprised by the answers that you received when talked to him. Most if not all the questions would be giving you insider information and he is not allowed to divulge any of it.
Buyout timeframe.... he can not give you an exact date, timeframe in general is probably ok... and his response of before the end of the year... well OK. If it happens earlier, he is the hero and if not well then, he nailed it. My thought is that the WHA needs the financial structure of a publicly traded company to raise capital and get investors. The person I spoke with obviously is a former hockey player and does not fully understand what he was allowed to say and not say!
Stock decline.... well, the guy may not know. You asked him if he was diluting and he said "NO". If he is selling shares is not insider information, and he is allowed to say this... so I would believe him. If anything, I almost suspect that he may have provided some unrestricted shares to an investmenet group so that he could raise capital to do the paperwork and filing for a new company, ticker, etc!
You then asked him about a pps in a couple months if it gets filled. That is not a fair question to him because he will no longer control the company and what they are doing. That would be like me selling you my house and someone asking me how much is it worth 3 months after you move in... when I have no idea what you will be doing to it like adding a pool, finishing the basement, etc!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Both B&A UP!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Stock decline.... well, the guy may not know. You asked him if he was diluting and he said "NO". If he is selling shares is not insider information, and he is allowed to say this... so I would believe him. If anything, I almost suspect that he may have provided some unrestricted shares to an investmenet group so that he could raise capital to do the paperwork and filing for a new company, ticker, etc!
Thats from you FO2 ... is that a good thing or a bad thing .. Is that the reason why the mm SGNS is selling so many shares at .005 to raise money and capital and that would be good right ?
im going to call him back today and try to get more information FO2 if you have the number to the ceo of WHA please PM it to me so i can give him a call thanks guys and im going to be doing more reasearch into the company and see what else i can find.
Posted by realityinc21 on :
Volume is up. Has anyone been able to buy at .003. I just added at .004. Still have an order in at .003 also. Just in case.
Lotto ticket..lol
Posted by buckstalker on :
Should be able to get it .003 or less now... WTF!!!
Posted by realityinc21 on :
YUP Posted by Jerm on :
Can somebody explain what I'm seeing on L2's:
First, there are lots of small volume trades happening... like in the $15 to $30 area.
Second, there are 8 MM's on a bid of .002 but the ask has only 2 on .004 with the rest much higher! .014x1 .015x1 .02x3
Are these signs of MM manipulation?
Posted by Tooka56 on :
Ameritrade doesn't give me L2's for this one nor does the otcbb website.
Posted by Pebbles' Mom on :
Ouch
Posted by clbgroove on :
how can my trade go through at .0025 when the ask is at .003?? They showed it on T&S's as .003
Never saw that before/ Anyone
Posted by Rules on :
.002 what do the L2s say?
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Something here dossent make sense someone was dumping a crap load of shares today !!! i hope its just the company trying to raise funds FO2 whats your thoughts ?
i got into by accident 10k$$$ worth but it could of been much worse!!
i went to place an order at .001 but instead i placed it at .01 and i left for work came home and all my stock filled for .005 so i have like 1.98 mill shares at .005 and now im down about 6k Yeah!!! o well i cant sell now so im in this for the long haul lucky the stock dident up tick when i was buying it or i would of been screwed lol o well im going to do more reaserach and try to find the number of the WHA ill let you know if i find any more out !!!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
Nearly everything was down today. It was a very ugly day all across penny land! There were a few exceptions.
I am still holding on and am confident that when the shell is filled, it will go up BIG!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
o i agree big no doubt ... any more on phone numbers to call i left a few voicemails today like a few minutes ago and ill wait to hear a response . im very curious to get a time frame .. .who did you talk with Fo2 what was his name ... i would like to speak with him . also what do you think about the amount of shares sold today? could it be the company trying to get some money to proceed with what it has to do or ...? thanks
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I Feel all of you pain! I got in at .01 and .011. I need to wait for that lotto ticket to cash in as Diana has said. I'd love to be more in the green and believe it will be.
For today...I needed to leave and go out shopping... my entire Penny port was........
Couldn't watch any more.....LOL
Posted by firefighterswct on :
lol i love that smilely lol its the way i felt when i got home from work lol ... so just for the record im in for 1.98 mill @ .005 so as of right now im down about 6k so if thats makes your guys pain feel less good for you lol
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Im looking around for more DD on this stock found an interesting article on the WHA not sure the date of it but seems realitively recent!! Im just hoping that the WHA does the deal with this stock and we will all be rich lol !!!!
World Hockey Association (proposed) The old World Hockey Association (WHA) merged into the National Hockey League (NHL) in 1979. But in 2003, Allan Howell and Dr. Nick Vaccaro announced the formation of the new World Hockey Association. Former WHA star Bobby Hull (the first major star to play in the old WHA) is its commissioner.
Some proposed cities, like Quebec City, had a WHA franchise in the 1970s. Some fans suggested that those cities retain the old nicknames. But problems inevitably would have occurred with this because the trademark owners probably would not have approved the use of the name(s), or because the NHL owned the trademark (as in Quebec City's case). On August 27, it the WHA announced (http://www.worldhockeyassociation.net/news/media_releases/media_082704.htm) that the Quebec City franchise was terminated.
On July 17 and July 18, 2004, the league conducted a draft. Each of 8 teams drafted 30 NHL and AHL free agents and 30 entry-level players. Sidney Crosby was the first player drafted. The teams participiating in the draft were:
Dallas Americans (http://www.dallasamericans.com/) Detroit Gladiators (http://www.detroitgladiators.com/) Halifax Icebreakers Hamilton Florida, located in Miami Toronto Toros Vancouver Blazers Quebec City Nordiks (Later terminated, all draftees are considered free agents) Prospective future franchises that the new WHA was considering included:
Birmingham Cincinnati Hartford Minneapolis Montreal Phoenix Toledo Winnipeg The new WHA was to operate under a $10,000,000 salary cap, with one marquee player with a salary of up to $5,000,000 excluded from the cap. The league also planned to introduce a number of innovative rule changes, such as three-on-three overtime to decide tied games, and the goaltender being forbidden to play the puck in back of the red goal line.
On June 21, 2004, David Waronker, owner of the Southern Professional Hockey League's Orlando Seals and Jacksonville Barracudas, cancelled transferral of ownership to Calgary businessman Max Chambers because Waronker had not heard from Chambers since signing a letter of intent, before June 2, when a deadline for submission of $100,000 was not made.
A man named Rick Smith, based in British Columbia, announced that he had successfully purchased the rights to the league and intended to have it operational by the end of January 2005. That did not materialize, however the league has publicly stated that it intends to commence operations in 2005-06. Most outside observers believe that if the league ever has a chance to become a reality, then this year was probably its best opportunity due to the ongoing lockout of the NHLPA by the ownership of the NHL teams.
With the NHL's 2004-05 season cancelled, WHA has moved ahead with its organization plans. Rumors of a "teaser" tournament were confirmed on March 22, 2005, when the league announced the "Bobby Hull Invitational", to take place at General Motors Place in Vancouver, British Columbia during May 2005. With US$2 million winner's purse and a $20,000 guaranteed payout to each player that participates, six teams will be formed to play the tournament. WHA states that 67 NHL players, including Keith Primeau and Dany Heatley, will take part in the tournament. [1] (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=2018949) (As of early June, howver, the league's website says the tournament is merely "coming soon"; whether it will ever actually happen is unknown.)
At the same time, they announced a purchase of 49% stake in the league by unnamed eastern European investors, who would take control of the WHA European Division when it began play in the 2006-07 season.
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
firefighterswct if you goto http://www.worldhockeyassociation.net/ and then right click towards the bottom of the page and then click on backward links you will find a few interesting reads.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Thanks Magnetic .... ill give it a shot !!
Posted by realityinc21 on :
I am in for a small position at .006 .005 .004 and .003. Total 200,000 shares. Exactly the profit that I made on the run from .01 to .014.
For me it is Free Lotto Ticket. I did not think it would fall this far. OH WELL. If the shell fills I will make a tidy profit. Either way I am stuck in it now. lol
I held CMKX for almost 2 years at .0001 till it took a run to .001 and I bailed at .0008. I made 2,400.00. Hopefully I will get lucky again. Posted by firefighterswct on :
Yeah i agree i mean we are not in this stock for the stock company its self ... you can do all the DD you want on the company and what they do etc (witch i have done) but really all of that means nothing because we are not invested in this company for the stock of this company we are investing in this company for the hopes that its gets filled by the WHA
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
YES! now lets make money!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
I find it weird that this stock is so low i mean .003?? come on ... people invest in stocks that have asks stacked up so tight that the stock if it gets volume will never move but you look at this stock and from the bid side witch is .0015 to the ask side witch is .003 is a 100% spread and really there are only 3 mm's till .01 on the ask ... 2 @ .003 and 1 @ .006 imagin if this stock got some volume even just to hold it up till we get word of the WHA its amazing me that more people dont see this as an awsome buying oppurtunity but heck what are you gonna do ...
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I know, I know..It's insane.... Going back up now! It's all good firefighter, We'll make the big bank!
Posted by Ross on :
Agreed Lil.. B/A now up Bid 1 @ .003 1 @ .002 Ask 2 @ .005 1 @ .006 1 @ .01
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Awsome thanks Ross !! this is looking good to me maybe who ever Fo2 talked to was right about this stock with the WHA in the mid to late september time range considering tryouts are supose to occure sept 24 and 25 Lets hope !!
Posted by HossTrader on :
Hey hey! Actual dates for something (anything!) to happen! Gotta love it.
Posted by Ross on :
heck, i'm piling up more guys........
GLTA...
Posted by HossTrader on :
Me too
Posted by Ross on :
did anyone call the number on the site to enquire how many probable teams r gonna be and when the season starts ???
Posted by pick em low on :
MLAR to the moon Monday group pick etc.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Ross and Hoss what price you guys trying to get in at and for how many shares if you dont mind me asking ?
Posted by Ross on :
i'll try and pick around 200k @ 0.003 or so, if possible...
Posted by firefighterswct on :
price now up to .005 !! o yeah baby keep the buys comming in !!
Posted by HossTrader on :
I tried to pick up 50k at .003 but it has upticked and I haven't filled yet.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by Ross: did anyone call the number on the site to enquire how many probable teams r gonna be and when the season starts ???
...COMING THIS SEASON.
WHA SUPER JUNIOR LEAGUE 2005-2006 SEASON
FLORIDA DIVISION WILL CONSIST OF 6 TEAMS
6 teams @ $4million - $6 million = 24-36 million in revenue for the shell! once it gets filled, it has alot more value than what is in it now!
Posted by Ross on :
lilpennypincher : DUH!,,, lol
i meant how many more...
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I believe when Jeff called he said between 10 to 15 teams and that the try outs are the end of september, they will have to have the teams set up before that.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Bid and ask is up !!
Bid 1 @ .004
Ask 1 @ .005 1 @ .006 1 @ .008
Posted by HossTrader on :
Maybe we can finish the week off with a happy note!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
well we closed up higher up 125% today though thats not really much for some of us who bought in at .01 - .011 but still its a start there where some big buys today at .005 and towrds the eod maybe something is up !!! lets hope for the same percentage gain on monday !! alright guys have a good weekend
Posted by firefighterswct on :
My etrade just showed an after hours buy at .005 for 10k shares not much but maybe a sign?
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
looking good for Monday....Playing golf early...Will be watching via phone....
Good Luck all.
Posted by realityinc21 on :
If I make a little extra cash I will add to my lotto ticket. With my 200,000 share I am up even or up a little at .0045. We will see how the day and volume plays out.
Good Luck to all trading. Posted by Rules on :
Who keeps dumping shares???
Posted by firefighterswct on :
no one Nite has some shares hes getting rid of the ones he bought at .002 thats all l2's look nice IMO very thin when we get the news that the company is being switched to the WHA i bet this thing will fly sky high !!!!
Posted by jakeo on :
anybody got bid/ask on this?
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Bid .004 ask .005
Posted by Jerm on :
L2's:
Bid: .004 .002 x 2 .0015
Ask: .005 .006 .008 .01
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
GRDX is getting some action today.
I have a feeling that something BIG is coming soon!
The season starts at the end of this month.
6 teams at $4-6 million each is alot of assets to be sticking inside a shell! This one is going to explde when they do announce it!
Remember SPEA & ATEG!
Posted by kywee on :
with 240k volume?
Posted by HossTrader on :
The volume will come with the news of the merger
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee: with 240k volume?
I bet we get some kinda news this week! And What I really want to see is this baby to move up an exchange... which I bet they do, to give them credibility in the investment community. These guys are professionals and have a high dollar product. They pursued the pink sheet shell route because it was cheaper than an IPO, which means they are serious about their investment.
How many hockey nut accountants / attorneys are out there, that would be more than happy to support this venture getting them off the pink sheets... probably for no more payment than an autograph and photo with THE GOLDEN JET?????
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
I emptied my account buying some more just now! I am now at 500K shares!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I'm still loaded and ready for news!
Posted by Tooka56 on :
FatherofTwo, I am holding 480k right beside you. Still waiting to see if we'll realize a profit, but its a fun prospect.
Posted by jakeo on :
HOLDING UNTIL THE FILLING!!!
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by jakeo: HOLDING UNTIL THE FILLING!!!
The ultimate American Pie. A slice for everyone.
Posted by stockgranny on :
I don't post often, I just got curious about this stock and didn't want to miss the chance on another SPEA. I called The company today and asked to speak to someone about the stock. I was connected to someone named Mark Mc(somebody) at the company and got this information.
They are closing the deal on Thursday, They are just waiting on the approval for the new symbol.
I was not going to post it as I was afraid of not being taken seriously. The news I got was too good not to share I just figured I'd give it a shot. It seems to me that good news will be out on Thursday or friday. Thanks for hearing me out and looking forward to thrusday/friday and making a lot of money with all of you.
Posted by Ross on :
Good work granny!!!!!
Posted by HossTrader on :
Granny, I sure hope you are right!! I could even become a hockey fan if all this goes through!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
granny is right .... i was talking to the ceo mark and ricky earler today and over the past few days . i told fo2 earlyer this afternoon to just run the information by him befour i posted it here ... Thrusday the company is exspecting a call from the nasdaq... ( otcbb) to confirm the name change one the stock symble has been changed and the approval is granted they will announce a PR come thrusday within hours .. depending on the timeing the PR should be released thrusday or friday morning . At this time the company will announce the new symble of the stock they will also do a R/S now this R/S is not a bad reverse split this is to bring the pps up so that it gets more noticeable and in turn can go to a higher exchange nasdaq etc. This stock should do very good it will be basicly a shell getting filled with a 20-30 mill dollar company right now NITE is on the ask price and has some shares hes selling that he bought at .002 but i think once we get passed him this stock is going to explode!!! but we will see after talking to these ceo's i am very very confident in the company and the future pps of the company best of luck to everyone !!!
Posted by reidler88 on :
u said they are exspecting a call on thursday,, doesnt mean it will happen then,,, and do u think if they get the ok,, they will have the pr out within hours of the call????
i am just asking,, not critizing anyone,,, i just dont wanna get my hopes up,, i hate work,,,, haha
Posted by corndo on :
Is anyone dumping before Thursday considering the upcoming R/S?
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Reidler88 Im saying the exact words of the ceo .. He said as soon as they get the word.. The PR will be out within hours!!
Corndo.. No way this issent a typicle R/S this is a good kind of R/S to get to a higher exchange etc im sure FO2 can explain that better then i can but its not a bad thing at all and you would be crazy to sell befour the news !!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Corndo The R/S will be a 1 for 1000 RS and the news stock will be about 5.00 or so or what ever the pps is befour the RS so if it goes up like some of the other shells have 1000% plus then the RS pps will be alot higher but yeah i cant explain it enough this kinds of RS is a good thing for the company it makes the company look better the the public eye by being on the otcbb then later down the road nasdaq etc !!
Posted by Rules on :
This is going to be interesting. I need a few more shares if anyone wants to sell some.
Posted by corndo on :
Thanks. Just trying to wrap my mind around how this is a good thing. If the pps goes from 0.005 to 5.00, I would still have the same initial amount of money invested, it's just now alot more expensive for others to get in. I guess the only positive is that after the R/S we will on the OTCBB (albeit /1000).
Posted by firefighterswct on :
basicly corndo this is a better way to explain it
Right now GRDX is a cruddy stock it has shares at .005 and like 30 mill os right ... im not to sure on these numbers the vaulse of the company issent worth much at all
Now you het WHA in the stock that stock this company that is worth crap say 1 mill dollars for example now gets filled with a company that is worth 20 -30 million thats real numbers well the PPS then jumps because each share is now worth alot more and the number of shares go down ... so now if there are only 3 million shares out standing the vaule of the stock is a minimum of 10 per shares and stocks usually trade alot more then there per share vaule ... Im hoping FO2 comes in and he can explain it better then me lol but thats the basic of it !!!
Posted by Jmoove on :
transferred more money for this one, and ill be getting out pre-rs
Posted by corndo on :
Thanks, I understand that part, but if the O/S 30 million then post r/s there will be 30K o/s? Isn't that low even for a OTCBB company? or even a NASDAQ for that matter?
Posted by kywee on :
Jmoove may i ask why you are getting out before the rs? which is thursday-friday or am i wrong?
Posted by Tooka56 on :
I also think this sounds shady now. I have never experienced a good R/S. If we have a R/S that sends us up to 5.00, then where will we go? If we went from .005 to .01 this week, it would be the same as post r/split shares going from $5 to $10 per share. Once you get into dollars, how much farther can you go? Just think about even a high pps as a result of the r/s: $20? 25? How high could this possibly go? I see a stock more likely to go from .005 to .035 than for a $5 to go to $35. Maybe I'm thinking about this incorrectly. Please correct my thinking if this is the case.
Posted by jakeo on :
Press Release Source: Grand Lux, Inc.
Grand Lux, Inc. Signs Letter of Intent to Purchase World Hockey Association Corporation Monday July 18, 8:00 am ET
ORLANDO, FL--(MARKET WIRE)--Jul 18, 2005 -- Grand Lux Inc. (Other OTC:GRDX.PK - News), today announced that it has signed an letter of intent (LOI) with World Hockey Association Corporation to purchase the company for stock. Upon completion, the present board of directors of Grand Lux, Inc. will resign and be replaced by the directors of World Hockey Association, which includes among others R. (Butch) Goring and Robert Marvin Hull.
Grand Lux, Inc. will be spinning out all current assets into Marinas International Inc. and will provide Grand Lux, Inc. shareholder a one (1) share dividend of Marinas International Inc., for every ten (10) shares of GRDX. The Marinas International Inc. new symbol and dates will be announced in the near future as they become available.
Just wondering where this reverse split info comes from? For every 10 shares of GRDX we get one share of this new company Marina's Co. While still keeping GRDX for the WHA to move its assets into. Is there going to be a split after the board of directors is disolved? Seems to me they dont need to do a R/S based on how this thing moves- guess that shows how many people are holding this stock.
[ September 21, 2005, 02:49: Message edited by: jakeo ]
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by Tooka56: I also think this sounds shady now. I have never experienced a good R/S. If we have a R/S that sends us up to 5.00, then where will we go? If we went from .005 to .01 this week, it would be the same as post r/split shares going from $5 to $10 per share. Once you get into dollars, how much farther can you go? Just think about even a high pps as a result of the r/s: $20? 25? How high could this possibly go? I see a stock more likely to go from .005 to .035 than for a $5 to go to $35. Maybe I'm thinking about this incorrectly. Please correct my thinking if this is the case.
A good R/S makes the pps change to dollars. 99 percent of investors will not touch a pink thats in the pennies let alone sub penny. The stock will find a new group of investor including institutional.
Posted by Ross on :
teams (7) and further info already on the site...
Posted by jordanreed on :
show me where it says a r/s is coming. also-look at gte to see what a r/s might do
Posted by jakeo on :
Hell yeah the Tallahassee Tigersharks!!! Used to live in Tallahassee and I've been to a couple of their games, surprisingly... for hockey in florida they really brought the crowds in
Posted by realityinc21 on :
I just talked to Ricky (WHA) Phone is at the website above. Mark is going to call me back with the skinny. I want to here this for myself. I will let you know. This is the first I have heard of a R/S.
I do not like that.
Posted by Ross on :
L2's anyone....
thx...
Posted by firefighterswct on :
bid 2 @ .0045 Ask 2 @ .006 1 @ .008 1 @ .01
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Wonder why we aren't seeing much action on this one this morning.
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Calm before the storm? Posted by reidler88 on :
did anyone confirm what the r/s was all about yet,,,,,,,
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Stickfiguredfred.... No one really know to much about this stock or this company besides people reading this thread ... We have the privaliage of knowing that a shell stock GRDX is going to be filled with a company with 20-30 mill in revenue i am suprised more people in this site arnt buying but thats not up to me ... i assume most people are waiting to see the news of the deal befour they jump into the stock witch is understandable but i must say i like being the early bird so i am in befour the news comes out .. Last time a shell got filled it went up over 1000% in a day and that company had bigger o/s and less of a deal but hey im not saying this is going to do that but i am also very confident that im not going to loss money .
Reidler88.... The r/s is to basicly create a new market for this stock by having it in the dollar range more people will view this as an investment then just a regular daytrade penny stock .. The new stock will also be on the OTCBB not the pinks and will or atleast imagine it trying to go to even bigger exchange after otcbb.
IMO look at the advantages
You have a shell stock getting filled!!! You have a company with good sized revenues!! This stock is comming off the pink sheets with a new symble and going to the OTCBB!!! You have a stock that has plenty of room to grow!!!
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
upticking
Posted by HossTrader on :
Anyone have l2's on this one today?
Posted by buckstalker on :
Bid .006 x 1 .0045 x 1 Ask .008 x 1 .01 x 1
Posted by prefect on :
bid 6x1 45x1 4x1 2x2
ask 8x1 10x1 105x1 12x1
Posted by HossTrader on :
Coolness. Thanks!
Posted by realityinc21 on :
I have not heard back from anyone. FYI Just got back in but have had my cell phone on me all morning.
Who started the R/S rumor and where is it coming from??? thanks
Posted by firefighterswct on :
I started it and its from the ceo ... Its not a bad thing though idk ill give fo2 a call and have him try to explain it better im also waiting for a call back from mark ill let you know when i get in tough with him !!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
As of right now looking at l2's theresno resistance till .02 and even that may be a fake wall if we get some volume in here then i guesse we will find out
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
.008 getting some nibbles
Posted by HossTrader on :
Nice jump!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
very nice... i did the math out guys on 109000 shares traded at an average of .006 thats only about 650.00$$ thats 650$ that moved this stock 60% thats insane ... The mm's must have chit for shares and if this gets the volume it derservies tommorow from the news then wow .... that would explain to me how stocks can move 1000% no problem well ill wait and see im excited lets hope we close good today !!
Posted by Chas35 on :
bid just jumped to 008...nice!
Posted by jakeo on :
Safe to say tommorrow or friday we can expect the news 1st thing in the morning.
Posted by HossTrader on :
Man, if it moved this much on such little volume. I can't imagine what will happen soon.
Posted by realityinc21 on :
Well I am happy with the pps--the volume needs to follow suit.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Looking nice. Yes.....Fire, the OTC and then the NASD....I'm excited.....This is going to be HUGE! IMHO! UP 60% On very little volume!
Posted by HossTrader on :
Awesome!!!
Check out the website!!!! I hear the train comin....
Being a college student that's only been with pinks and the otcbb for two years, I'll trust you guys (but don't worry, I've done my dd-lol and there will be no blaming no matter what!). Plus it's not that easy to ditch 485000 shares on a low volume day like this.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Nice Hoss!
Posted by Jmoove on :
70x80 now, nite on the bid
Posted by HossTrader on :
Thanks Lil The team logos got me so excited I bought 50k more Posted by Tooka56 on :
Haha-they are pretty logos....
Posted by Jmoove on :
70x.01
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
just put an order in for 60000 more shares....got 10000 and the ASK jumped to .01! Gonna' hold to see if I get the rest....It's going to FLY!
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
Can you taste it! Posted by Jmoove on :
this is gonna be absolutely disgusting, we are all gonna throw up when we see our portfolios in the next couple days....ok that was a bit much, but still, im excited, this and AURAQ have been the only two things moving for me the past few days
Posted by buckstalker on :
Dang Lil...you beat me to it...I put in another order for 100k at .008 and didn't get squat. Ask jumped to .01 immediately!!
Posted by billyboo on :
fyi, those logos are from old WHA teams from the 1970's
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I'm all warm and fuzzy with this one!
Posted by Jmoove on :
cmon, ive done it for you guys before, someone throw a couple bucks at .01 :-)
Posted by Jmoove on :
9x.01
Posted by Tooka56 on :
Haha. J, I have too! Except I did it to get the PPS back up to .005 from .003 when the water was really dark. It's someone else's turn this time! Enjoy this feeling and pray that it lasts. Seriously PRAY !!
Posted by Jmoove on :
.01x.0105
Posted by Tooka56 on :
Where is the wall by the way? .02 or higher?
Posted by Jmoove on :
wall, what wall?lol, ill put lots of money on that .02 wall being completely fake, i see .05 as the first point of real resistance
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Come on....! UP, UP, UP! We are going to hit this one huge. Looking for over .02 EASY with the news... Perhaps .03!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
OK Jmoove......Just got 30000 more at .0105....How's that for taking one for the team?
LOL
Posted by Jmoove on :
niice, did you get in to AURAQ a while back penny? cashed out with a 4 bagger yesterday
Posted by futurama08 on :
So what is the deal with the R/S? I am in for 100,000 shares at 0.01 (got in later than I would have liked). Is it worth it for me to sell my shares and jump back in post-R/S or just ride it out? I understand I will have less shares but apperantly they will be worth more? When do we expect the PR for all this.
Thanks
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
Nice!!!!! Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Jmoove, No, Missed it. and Futurama...I'm not selling one share yet......HECK!!........I just got more! LOL
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
future....The PR is expected thurs/fri.
Posted by futurama08 on :
lil; what can we expect after the PR?
Posted by firefighterswct on :
yeah!!!! just got back saw that we are back to penny land !!! this thing should rock come tommorow on the news !! hear comes a nickle let hope hope hope !!!!
Posted by Enjoys$ on :
yea looks great
Posted by Persia on :
will there be a pullback in the am or just up up up?
Posted by HossTrader on :
That probably depends on how long until new news comes out.
Posted by Jmoove on :
90x.0105
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I think it just goes up, up, up.. Remember just watching the past few days. Not too many buys got it here. Meaning all the sellers are gone and only a few buyers in at .005/.006 and .008
So I think we go past .02 VERY SOON!
Posted by HossTrader on :
I have been in qbid land too long! Seeing a stock move like this on only 1.2 mil in volume makes me happy!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
LOL Hoss.....
Hey FatherOfTwo....Just incase I forget to tell you on friday! THANK YOU For helping me make HUGE BANK, with this....
Posted by Enjoys$ on :
so what is this gonna be at on friday?
Posted by Jmoove on :
.01x.012
nite on top of the bid
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Bid ask up tick on each
Bid .01 ask .012 !!!
go go go !!! i think tommorow is going to be an insane day with this stock !!!
Posted by Jmoove on :
this thing is gettin ready for a crazy a$$ run
Posted by futurama08 on :
If the thing does do a R/S won't we lose money on the deal? I'm confused as to how this will help the investors out.
Posted by Jmoove on :
.011x.014 2x2
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
HOLY SMOKES!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Enjoys$ on :
yea, i have same question as futur
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Guys......I think it goes well past .03!!!
Posted by HossTrader on :
If the company gets on a real exchange and goes over $1, then the real money comes in. Mutual funds, hedge funds, etc. People that play in millions and won't look at little stuff.
From what I have been told... The problem with a r/s in penny land is when it doesn't lead to a move to a new exchange. then it tends back downward.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
no you will not loose the money on the deal futuranma !!
YES YES YES go baby .... this thing with some decent volume behind it tommorow can easyly break .05 !!!! exspecially with the news !!!
Posted by clbgroove on :
ill do one for .014 to push it.... idid the one this morning for .008 to get it over.
Might help set off a few alarms
Posted by prefect on :
damn...I wish my l2s were working...forking microcap!!!!
Posted by Enjoys$ on :
nice
Posted by Jmoove on :
one left at 14
ask 14 18 19x2 20x5 50x2
Posted by futurama08 on :
Ask .017 Bid .011
LOL!
Posted by clbgroove on :
damn partial fill of 10k....put in 4 11k....still not filled
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
14's gone 17's getting hit!
Posted by Jmoove on :
11x17 2x1
Posted by futurama08 on :
HOLY $%& .017
Posted by realityinc21 on :
yeeeaaaaa haaaaaaa
my lotto ticket is paying off. Posted by Enjoys$ on :
so where is this gonna end up
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by clbgroove on :
quote:Originally posted by clbgroove: damn partial fill of 10k....put in 4 11k....still not filled
Left me with a 1000 balance on 11k trade and jumped all around me. Damn I hate when they wont let me play with the boys and girls in the sand box of money!!!!!!
Posted by realityinc21 on :
Wish I had more than 200000 shares.. Posted by prefect on :
microcap back in business!
Posted by Jmoove on :
17's gone
12x18
Posted by Ross on :
don't u all wish it wud reach around a $1.00 in the coming days...
haha..........
Posted by Jmoove on :
12x19 3x1
Posted by futurama08 on :
Ross: I just had a heart attack reading your post
Posted by realityinc21 on :
I will settle for .10. Posted by futurama08 on :
So what happens at .02?
Posted by clbgroove on :
guess ill do the .019 on my partial to help the gapper 2morrow
Posted by MakingIT on :
Wow Just watching from sidelines. Congratulations to all who got in this one either earlier today or before!!! great pick @ DD FATHER OF TWO!
Posted by Jmoove on :
up 274% on less than the 10 day avg vol, lol
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
great day here all!
Posted by futurama08 on :
.02 seems to be the wall. Does it look like a fake wall or should we expect a big dip in the morning?
Posted by Tooka56 on :
YAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!!!!! Let's open up tomorrow! Congrats everyone. Can't wait to see tomorrow!
Posted by Ross on :
Ross: I just had a heart attack reading your post
hey future, that was the initial idea man!!!!!
lol......
Posted by Enjoys$ on :
will there be a dip in the morning, maybe and opportunity for more shares
Posted by HossTrader on :
Man, I am going to be having a party this weekend at this rate!
Posted by realityinc21 on :
Thanks FOT. Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I feel like I need a smoke!!!LOL WOW!!!!
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Everybody selling before or after merge?
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Yeah
Lets get this streight everyone it moved 274% today with only 1.54 million in volume that is just down right insane .... MMs dont have any shares left in this stock and if they do they arnt stupid there not going to sell them till a much higher price IMO that wall at .02 is so fake its not even funny and with buying pressure tommorow am we should be able to plow right through it .. O guys when you sell please sell on the ASK not the BID this was the mm's cant get there shares back lol i think tommorow with some the news todays radicicle price increase and the low float of this stock it should fly through into the nickle range with out a problem best of luck to everyone and anyone who wants in for the ride come tommorow best to get in early in the morning cause soon as the **** hits the fan with the PR and more of the public comes out Watch out !!!
Posted by kywee on :
well well...i had buy orders in at .0045 and .006 all day and they didnt get filled. so i cam back at 3:55 and bought some at .019...i just wanted to be in on the shell just so i dont miss anything and if it goes bad, well i wont lose to much....but damn i was watching it all day at .006 waiting for .005 to buy.. how stupid am i!!!!!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
kywee, You won't feel stupid after tomorrow.... Fire is right. Don't give up your shares at the BID at all. I'm hanging for the shell fill......BOOOOOOM! The gap in the AM will be great but, the news will be even better!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
i honestly dont think im going to sell till atleast .05 and if i do sell there i will only sell enought to make back what i put in and ride the rest of the free shares!! IMHO this stock is going to rock we just have to get the rest of the people who may not know about this stock to get in but hey when they see the PR and we are already in hahaha well ill leave it at that lol
Posted by Ross on :
Kywee....
they weren't filling me too @ 0.008 all day...!!!
Posted by Ross on :
i'm hanging in till the shell fill no matter what.... all u guys in with me, repeat after me...
WE WON'T SELL UNTIL THE SHELL GETS FILLED!!!!
lol..........
Posted by kywee on :
i waited till today because you all said the shell was tomorrow or friday correct? so i i just wanted some shares because shells have a good risk vs reward.
are they announcing the new symbol tomorrow or friday and filling the shell with wha? thats what i thought, correct me if im wrong
Posted by firefighterswct on :
its cause they are very very very short on shares guys i was looking at l2's and time and sales all day long and well usually they would uptick the price on a 500 order some even upticked on 100 buy orders thats just down right insane thats one of the reasons why i see it going so high come tommorow !!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
YES, I'm not selling on the gap....I'm waiting for the SHELL news.....It's going to blow our minds...... .05 Definately possible fire!
Posted by prefect on :
I'd about given up on this guy...bought a ton on 8/30 and well you know what happened in between then and this morning.
On a hunch I added 100,000 more like 30 seconds before the close yesterday @ 5 (was even surprised by the speed of execution!)...
Boy am I glad I did Posted by lilpennypincher on :
WHEN the news hits Mirco cap streamers! It's going to be INSANE, like anything we've seen in a LONG time!
WHOO-HOOOOO!
Posted by Ross on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: YES, I'm not selling on the gap....I'm waiting for the SHELL news.....It's going to blow our minds...... .05 Definately possible fire!
lil, u're right. no point selling before no matter what we won't lose... and also its really nice to see the shell get filled with assets and sell it at its valued price..
thats like respecting the share ..... Posted by kywee on :
penny is the shell deal coming tomorrow? as in are we getting the 10-1 share and wha filling grdx? please confirm
Posted by Jmoove on :
.05 is more than possible, i dont think there is a wall at .02 and its also possible we could gap right through .02. Im very optimistic about this, huge move today on very little dollar volume. .10 would be amazing
Posted by Ross on :
quote:Originally posted by Jmoove: .05 is more than possible, i dont think there is a wall at .02 and its also possible we could gap right through .02. Im very optimistic about this, huge move today on very little dollar volume. .10 would be amazing
0.10 ...
i'd say thats a given man!!!!! Posted by Jmoove on :
i dont like to get greedy :-)
Posted by HossTrader on :
Jmoove, I am just happy to finally be involved with a stock where I even have to worry about being too greedy! Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
I thought I got in too late.. but late surge made me a happy guy.. just can't wait til where this will be tomorrow morn.
Anyone else into CWMF?? Next week should be pretty crazy.. either I will be jumping with joy... or.. be crying..lol.. GLTA
Posted by kywee on :
they said that about this week also...
Posted by futurama08 on :
So, OKAY for those of us who do not have the long history of experience on our side:
Today GRDX went up 274% -- awsome. Tomorrow we are suppose to get a R/S for our shares (10-1) so my 100,000 shares will be 10,000 shares, correct? If this is the case where do we see the PPS? Because unless the PPS is 10x what it is today, then I do not understand why everyone is saying this is a "good r/s"!
Also, do we think it will dip tomorrow or will it just keep climbing? I'm just confused on what caused the huge movement today and what will sustain it.
Thanks for the lesson Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by futurama08: So, OKAY for those of us who do not have the long history of experience on our side:
Today GRDX went up 274% -- awsome. Tomorrow we are suppose to get a R/S for our shares (10-1) so my 100,000 shares will be 10,000 shares, correct? If this is the case where do we see the PPS? Because unless the PPS is 10x what it is today, then I do not understand why everyone is saying this is a "good r/s"!
Also, do we think it will dip tomorrow or will it just keep climbing? I'm just confused on what caused the huge movement today and what will sustain it.
Thanks for the lesson
Where's the news that a R/S will happen tomorrow??
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Kywee .. everyone i just got off the phone with mark (ceo) at 4:30 this afternoon he called me back to answer my questions
I asked him to confirm the Date of the PR he said they are trying to wrap everything up and tommorow PM or Friday AM for sure !! I asked about the RS and he said they are doing it just so they can get the PPS up and that will draw a new market .. They will also be promoting the stock over this weekend in canada at a hocky expo. I asked him what the O/S will be after the R/S and he said 47,000 Whitch i think is very very low !! When this news hits i truely beleave this stock will rock we just need more people to catch attention to this tommorow and friday and BOOM! lol ill be back later this evenining guys Mark and i have become pretty good freinds so if you have a question you want me to ask him please PM me
O and the pps after the slit will be 1000x what ever it closes at the day befour so if it closes at .05 then it will be 50$ etc.
O bye the way everyone Mark and rickys faimly both own stock in GRDX i thought that was interesting !!
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
Oh by the way FOT, you're the best!!! Great pick. I'm sure others will try to take credit for your hard work and DD. We know you're the king.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
The RS is not going to happen tommorow ... its going to be announced and will be explaned why they are doing it ... !!
Posted by Ross on :
quote:Originally posted by firefighterswct: Kywee .. everyone i just got off the phone with mark (ceo) at 4:30 this afternoon he called me back to answer my questions
I asked him to confirm the Date of the PR he said they are trying to wrap everything up and tommorow PM or Friday AM for sure !! I asked about the RS and he said they are doing it just so they can get the PPS up and that will draw a new market .. They will also be promoting the stock over this weekend in canada at a hocky expo. I asked him what the O/S will be after the R/S and he said 47,000 Whitch i think is very very low !! When this news hits i truely beleave this stock will rock we just need more people to catch attention to this tommorow and friday and BOOM! lol ill be back later this evenining guys Mark and i have become pretty good freinds so if you have a question you want me to ask him please PM me
O and the pps after the slit will be 1000x what ever it closes at the day befour so if it closes at .05 then it will be 50$ etc.
O bye the way everyone Mark and rickys faimly both own stock in GRDX i thought that was interesting !!
1000 times of whatever it closes the day before....
not in a sarcastic way , but ,
ARE U SURE !!!!!!!
HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!
Posted by kywee on :
quote:Originally posted by firefighterswct: The RS is not going to happen tommorow ... its going to be announced and will be explaned why they are doing it ... !!
ohhh...then i had it all wrong, i guess i didnt have to buy at .019 afterall
Posted by firefighterswct on :
This is what is going to be announce for tommorow PM or friday AM now please if anyone else ask's please post this statement of information to sum it up
1 WHA is putting there assetts into GRDX 2 How much is assetts? 20-30 million possiblbly more with another leage that signed on 3 New ticker symble... i beleave he said it would be WHAC. 4 The company will not be on pinks anymore they are moving up to the OTCBB 5 R/S announceing the 1/1000 and why they are doing it and explaining the benifits of it . 6. All the dates this takes effect 7. Information about the company and where it is planning on going in the future !!
Posted by jakeo on :
Sucks for me, I put a sell order in for half of mine @ .01 today- then figured to let the other half ride, too bad i dont have any patience. But nobody likes reverse splits. Im gonna let mine ride tommorrow then out before the split.
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Yea I fail to see why the split would make this stock worth sticking around for afterwards. I haven't seen a good one yet. Anybody enlighten us on this?
Posted by kywee on :
the reason for sticking around is not really for the split. the reason is grdx is going to be a shell, it will get filled with wha assests. you will still have the shares in grdx, so when they put assests into the shell they will have an IPO and it should be really high. the shares u get from the split are kinda a bonus
Posted by firefighterswct on :
This is what im in it for to be honest and up front with everyone !!
Tommorow more people getting inthe stock befour the news witch issent a bad idea at all then come tommorow pm or friday am with the news of everything i just said the public + other people will see the news and the stock should go up again!! at that time they woll release the date for the RS depending on what the stock does momentium etc i will decide if i sell some and hold the rest or etc.. but im not going to sell till atleast the ride up from the news this is an easy stock to go up because there are just no shares in the hands of the mm's and the float is real low thats why im very interested in making some good money in this stock RS i think is going to be good for the company exspeailly as a long term hold !! but to hold just for the RS probably not but like i said once the whole public gets the news this stock will fly and then i will decide my exit point!!
Posted by Tooka56 on :
Are there really that many $50 stocks on the OTCBB? All I've ever seen have been at the most around 20. Additionally, I see 47000 as a post O/S somewhat silly. That would mean no liquidity virtually. It would be like trying to sell VNTN and we all know how that ship floats. I would think that once there is only a 47000 O/S that somehow they would increase the share count for either more funding/ and or a stock dividend. Are there any examples or charts you guys can throw at me that somewhat show a precedent?
Posted by Tooka56 on :
Sleep well guys-no matter what happens-we're having a great ride! Thanks again for all the contributions guys-especially FO2 and for your correspondence fire.
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Whats your take on all this FOT? As what you expected?
Posted by kywee on :
is it 10-1 or 1000-1 split, im hearing two different ones...
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by Clyde_Crashcup: Oh by the way FOT, you're the best!!! Great pick. I'm sure others will try to take credit for your hard work and DD. We know you're the king.
Thank you.
All the bashing I received for this in the beginning does not seem so bad now. I don't know how many of my picks took a little while to gain some steam, but when they did, they went up very well!
I also was PM'd today to learn that my old buddy MoMo jumped in today at .012! Well... for someone who called me alot of names, he should at least admit that he is playing a FOT pick!
My plan is to sell 1/2 tomorrow and ride free shares to see what happens. I want to buy a ton more ADDI, especially after the sell off today!
Can't wait til tomorrow! Posted by Jmoove on :
10 for 1 seems more reasonable in this instance, the pps will already be decently high for an otcbb stock after it gets traded up wiith news of 30 mill in assets
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by FatherOfTwo:
quote:Originally posted by Clyde_Crashcup: Oh by the way FOT, you're the best!!! Great pick. I'm sure others will try to take credit for your hard work and DD. We know you're the king.
Thank you.
All the bashing I received for this in the beginning does not seem so bad now. I don't know how many of my picks took a little while to gain some steam, but when they did, they went up very well!
I also was PM'd today to learn that my old buddy MoMo jumped in today at .012! Well... for someone who called me alot of names, he should at least admit that he is playing a FOT pick!
My plan is to sell 1/2 tomorrow and ride free shares to see what happens. I want to buy a ton more ADDI, especially after the sell off today!
Can't wait til tomorrow!
I'm sure Momo plays your picks all the time. The only other way he can make money is by screwing the people on his board that aren't smart enough to figure out they are being used.
Posted by BuyTex on :
congratulations, well done...
Posted by coldmoney on :
Those of you who got in when the play was called he first time I bet you wish you got in at a lower price huh? I picked up some shares at .008 and .01 I honestly believe if news is released tommorow this stock will do very well. Hopefully get the attention ATEG and RNVO did. If she does this will break .05 in less then 15 mintues. Look at the way she traded today. Upticked up 10k orders. That's the power of a low floater + Volume. This makes me want to play low floaters more often to bad no one post them here. =(
Posted by BuyTex on :
well, FoT,...there's your "12" evidence...lol
now he's pumping after all the insults.
too funny... ****
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: Those of you who got in when the play was called he first time I bet you wish you got in at a lower price huh? I picked up some shares at .008 and .01 I honestly believe if news is released tommorow this stock will do very well. Hopefully get the attention ATEG and RNVO did. If she does this will break .05 in less then 15 mintues. Look at the way she traded today. Upticked up 10k orders. That's the power of a low floater + Volume. This makes me want to play low floaters more often to bad no one post them here. =(
cold...
What do you mean that Low O/S are not posted here? I posted ADDI which has 45 million O/S and 8 million float. It is placing drug testing kits in national CHAINSSSSS starting in a couple months with an ad campaign starting any day. All you need to do is read the DD.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Really liking ADDI FOT. Sometimes your picks just take a few days or a little more to hit the volume they deserve. At least they are spotted and Do very well...Thanks Jeff. I got more ADDI today and plan on getting more tomorrow. Put some of that GRDX profit there folks....Big sell off today is right...getting pumped up for a run.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I love hearing .05! And yes, it could very well do that with news......240% with only what? a little over 1.5 mil in volume......THAT IS INSANE!!!!!! SOMKIN!!!!!!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Posted by right42day on :
Good evening all... Don't have too many shares in this but my 45,000 I got at .003 was lookin sweeeeet tonight when I got home. GLTA
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
This chart is SMOKING HOT!
I honestly believe this could break .10 tomorrow as there is ZERO resistance above .02.
There was no volume when the pps fell from .045 down to .01.... when we started getting in! This will fly at least to .045 on next to no volume, and with some momentum, it can carry way higher, maybe even to .10!!!!!
Posted by HossTrader on :
Any opinions on where this might open in the morning?
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
All I have to say is......This is a once in "LONG" time opportunity to make huge money. Don't miss this one. Really, .02 Is going to be FAR GONE HISTORY tomorow!
Glad I got in from the beginning, It's been a fun ride so far and am sitting on the edge of my seat already!
Make bank all and Get GREEDY.....LOL j/k.
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: Any opinions on where this might open in the morning?
Somewhere between .02 and .10!!! Posted by HossTrader on :
I hope your both right. I am just going to have trouble sleeping tonight because I went in heavy at .005! I think I have checked my balances about 20 times since the market closed Posted by lilpennypincher on :
LOL Hoss, Heavy......I'm up to my ears in GRDX and last purchased at .0105.....!
I'm either buying a new laptop tomorrow or a new LEXUS!!!!!!
I'm not sleeping either! It's over rated anyway....
Posted by Tooka56 on :
Haha Hoss. It's great to be a winner isn't it? Let's hope the announcement comes tomorrow and the MM's are slow to recover and we'll have a stellar day! I have class here at UVA till 12PM, but I think I might skip out a little early at the end of my 10:30 to see how we're doing. Pray again tonight for another awesome day!
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
quote:Originally posted by OMGOMG:
quote:Originally posted by HILANDER: Or ask about ATEG FOT, that one will hit close to home. he he he he he he he
Yeah they lost on ATEG and GRLZ but they won on PMEDW 1600% and even GRLZ did 400% people got in late. WHLI first run 900% SFTV .0025 to .03 thats over 1,000% MBRI 300% Need I say more. They lose one play and make over 200% on the next. Not to mention the spread on this play is tony the tiger gr888888 Ask is moving up but the bid is satying down. Chalk another one up for F02.
What do you say now OMG??? Chalk another one up for F02. From my lowest buy in at .003 to today is 600%+!!!
And it is going higher tomorrow! Posted by elitedb on :
Thanks FOT, very, very nice call. My last order was for 500,000 shares at .002. They filled 125,000 of them. I believe that is 935%. Heck, my orginal fill has doubled, not too shabby.
Very, very nice. Thanks again, no body can DD like you.
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by elitedb: Thanks FOT, very, very nice call. My last order was for 500,000 shares at .002. They filled 125,000 of them. I believe that is 935%. Heck, my orginal fill has doubled, not too shabby.
Very, very nice. Thanks again, no body can DD like you.
Elit no way you got shares that low. The pps never dropped that low. And for you to buy shares that low means you would of had to bid on the bid which you can't on the pink sheets.
Posted by SeattleWriter3d on :
Well I have to thank Lil and FO2 because if you look at my first posting on this, I bought my shares when people were blasting FO2 and Lil was getting mad and I got in simply because I wanted to be part of the action if it did exactly what it is doing now. So thanks to whomever started bashing FO2 on this one because if I hadn't gotten so into all the fighting, I wouldn't have found this stock and wouldn't have bought in just for shi*ts and giggles! Now it looks like a nice payday tomorrow.
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by futurama08: So, OKAY for those of us who do not have the long history of experience on our side:
Today GRDX went up 274% -- awsome. Tomorrow we are suppose to get a R/S for our shares (10-1) so my 100,000 shares will be 10,000 shares, correct? If this is the case where do we see the PPS? Because unless the PPS is 10x what it is today, then I do not understand why everyone is saying this is a "good r/s"!
Also, do we think it will dip tomorrow or will it just keep climbing? I'm just confused on what caused the huge movement today and what will sustain it.
Thanks for the lesson
Just make sure you sell before close tommorow. Take profits before other's do and reinvest at bottom. When first called this was around .01 You have people who filled .004 and are up huge now. So if this keep's going up try to sell before everyone else does. As we have seen the past few weeks a stock does well 1 to 2 days and drops like a rock the next few days. Look at what ATEG did in one day and look where she is now. Most of you are up 20% on the bid while others are up 300% on the bid depending on the price you got in. Good luck to all and I will be here doing my money dance when i sell into the gap.
Posted by elitedb on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney:
quote:Originally posted by elitedb: Thanks FOT, very, very nice call. My last order was for 500,000 shares at .002. They filled 125,000 of them. I believe that is 935%. Heck, my orginal fill has doubled, not too shabby.
Very, very nice. Thanks again, no body can DD like you.
Elit no way you got shares that low. The pps never dropped that low. And for you to buy shares that low means you would of had to bid on the bid which you can't on the pink sheets.
I have sent you the details of my trade through private mail. For public consumption, the trade occurred 9/15/05 at 1:23:51 PM.
Just like I try to sell at the ask, I try to fill on the bid. Sometimes it works. It worked here for a partial fill.
You have a problem with anything I say, you doubt the veracity of my statements, then check with me privately before you show your ass.
Sorry FOT and everyone else for my tirade but I cannot ever stand for someone to trash me this way and attack my character.
Posted by jakeo on :
quote:Originally posted by firefighterswct: This is what im in it for to be honest and up front with everyone !!
Tommorow more people getting inthe stock befour the news witch issent a bad idea at all then come tommorow pm or friday am with the news of everything i just said the public + other people will see the news and the stock should go up again!! at that time they woll release the date for the RS depending on what the stock does momentium etc i will decide if i sell some and hold the rest or etc.. but im not going to sell till atleast the ride up from the news this is an easy stock to go up because there are just no shares in the hands of the mm's and the float is real low thats why im very interested in making some good money in this stock RS i think is going to be good for the company exspeailly as a long term hold !! but to hold just for the RS probably not but like i said once the whole public gets the news this stock will fly and then i will decide my exit point!!
JESUS FIRE THEY ARE CALLED COMMAS. That being said you must have made some nice bank with that 10k u threw in @ .005 Posted by firefighterswct on :
LOL k jakeo, lol, i was excited
Today is going to be sweet i may try to pick up some more this am befour the news comes out !! .10 FOT man o man !!! lol , If we can get some decent volume behind this i dont see that being a problem !!!, i have to go but ill be back befour open good luck guys and gals !!!!!
Posted by Sunnyside on :
anyone have L2's
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Really liking ADDI FOT. Sometimes your picks just take a few days or a little more to hit the volume they deserve. At least they are spotted and Do very well...Thanks Jeff. I got more ADDI today and plan on getting more tomorrow. Put some of that GRDX profit there folks....Big sell off today is right...getting pumped up for a run.
I'm looking at ADDI as well. Going to use some GRDX to buy it.
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
This will find a new group of investors today. Lil - we need the dancing baby to stir up some mojo.
Posted by realityinc21 on :
I only have 200000 at an average of .0045. I put my sell order in for 100000 at .10.
It is only money I made on the first run up 2 weeks ago when FOT called it then.
Thanks FOT.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Nice reality !! yeah if we can get some new investers into this stock we will be golden!! even getting in at these prices are a heck of a deal exspecially if we can top over a dime that 500% from .02 !! Im excited lets hope it all goes good this am
Sunnyside... L2's arnt open yet this AM but yesterdays where Bid 3 @ .012 ask 1 @ .019 2 @ .0192
but i can only imagine those will go up befour the open today !!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
If we can break .02 today or this AM espeically there is no resistance at all We have 6 mm's right now at .02 but i have a gut feeling that , that wall is fake i know a couple other people in hear also suggested that !! if we hold our shares till atleast the news comes out or atleast sell on the ask so the mm's cant get our shares then we will be in good shape cause like people have said the mm's have chit for shares!!. after .02 theres one mm at .025 1 @ .05 then all the way up to .12 !! Lets get the buys comming in guys !! yes yes yes !!!
Posted by Jmoove on :
15x19
etrd on the bid
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
OPEN SOON! I can't WAIT!!!!!!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I just put an order in for more at .019
Posted by Jmoove on :
16x19
nite on the bid
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Yeah now only 2 mm's befour .02 on the ask side !! if we can break that wall ( fake wall ) then .10 should not be a problem!!! i agree lil i may buy more here hell if it hits .10 and i can get in under .03 thats still nealy 500% profit hell 100% is still nice lol
Posted by Jmoove on :
16x192
Posted by firefighterswct on :
18x20!!!
Posted by kywee on :
18x20
Posted by futurama08 on :
18(1)x20(8) 30, 42, 50(1)
Posted by Jmoove on :
18x20 1x8
Posted by kywee on :
this is going to be crazy
Posted by firefighterswct on :
wall is falling get in this AM if you want a ride of your life lol o yeah
Posted by Jmoove on :
gapping right through .02, i like it when im right :-)
19x21 2x1
Posted by kywee on :
omg AMEP and this stock are making me insane!! i love this...
im a freshman in college and im making bank!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
20x22 now !!! go go go
Posted by futurama08 on :
20x22
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
gapped right through that fake wall; were golden!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
im not selling a darn share till atleast .10 !!!
Posted by futurama08 on :
Why is SGMS on the ask at .00 size 0?
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
I don't know that I've ever seen a penny run like this.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
cause hes out of shares to sell
Posted by futurama08 on :
Now if only IGTN would get its act together, I can retire.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
its a shell Getting filled clyde ... ive seen it befour but have always sold to early or was afraid to get in ... not this time !!
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by futurama08: Why is SGMS on the ask at .00 size 0?
because they need all the market makers they can get for GRDX.
Not sure - wait until the open.
Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
So.. sorry, but what is the ratio of the reverse split again? was is 1-10? or 1-1000?
Posted by HossTrader on :
And we're off.....
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
I am in for some more!
Posted by futurama08 on :
Alright well we're at .022....just 97.8 cents to go.
Posted by coldmoney on :
Chances are the PPS will come back down so they can fill the gap. And there it goes..
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by so uh wheres ma money: So.. sorry, but what is the ratio of the reverse split again? was is 1-10? or 1-1000?
There is not reverse split as of today. There has not been a PR released.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
gonna' fill the little gap here. It's going to go back up. Just catch this dip.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
yup.. filling the gap has to happen its healthy for the stock but it should come back up exspeailly towrds the afternoon with the news thats suppose to come out
Posted by Jmoove on :
yup, fillin the gap, itll stall, then should see a flurry of buys at 19 or so
Posted by Aquapurity on :
I don't get what you mean by this... what does "so they can fill the gap" mean?
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: Chances are the PPS will come back down so they can fill the gap. And there it goes..
Posted by coldmoney on :
Let's hope no one else sells. Looks like people got in and got out this morning. They played it as it should of been played. Now people hitting bid. Always sell high and reinvest at the bottom with profit.
Posted by prefect on :
why is it dipping?
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by prefect: why is it dipping?
Filling the gap - it's at the bottom and should start back up.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
i think ill grab more down here this seems like a discount price !! anything up to .025 seems like a hell of a bargain!!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Mirrors going on.....Don't sell here!!!!!
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
Lil - where's little mojo?
Posted by coldmoney on :
People selling prefect. The concept is known as "Gap and trap" Premarket you hit it with alot of cash so the bid and ask and come up. Once you see no volume in the morning you hit bid. Those who got in yesterday made a killing right now. And that now puts alot more shares in the hands of the MM's which will make her harder to run next time around.
Posted by ecko13 on :
Can anybody tell me why ameritrade doesn't show the L2 for this? Thanks in advance
Posted by kywee on :
need to find a bottom so i can buy more
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: People selling prefect. The concept is known as "Gap and trap" Premarket you hit it with alot of cash so the bid and ask and come up. Once you see no volume in the morning you hit bid. Those who got in yesterday made a killing right now. And that now puts alot more shares in the hands of the MM's which will make her harder to run next time around.
Don't think so.
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
Bottom and now up! Get it quick before she starts running
Posted by firefighterswct on :
once we get who every is selling with SCHB off the ask we will go right back up !!
Posted by HossTrader on :
How are the l2's?
Posted by futurama08 on :
It hit .02 again for a second and then dropped right back down
Posted by Jmoove on :
165x18 1x1
ask is thin to .03
Posted by firefighterswct on :
still holding stong 1 @ 165 3 @ 16 2 @ 15
ASK only 1 @ 18 2 @ 20 2 @ 21 if we get some buying pressure like we did yesterday this will fly!!
Posted by futurama08 on :
Nope, SCHB is controlling this and can take it down as low as it wants.
Posted by HossTrader on :
Who the hell sold at 165?
Posted by kywee on :
im waiting for bottom to get in
Posted by ecko13 on :
Anybody know why ameritrade won't show the l2's for this???
Posted by firefighterswct on :
who ever is selling with SCHB is trying to chase the bid down !! im not worried about it she will come back ill go watch tv and when i come back hopefully everything will better
Posted by prefect on :
not sure but it was my buy...
Posted by futurama08 on :
it might not bounce back up, the l2's aren't looking good and 1 MM is holding us down. We should be >.02 w/o SCHB but he keeps lowering the ask from 19-18-17 and now 16.
Posted by reidler88 on :
wow,,, do u think this could hit .01 again??????
if so i am buying more
Posted by futurama08 on :
it's going to hit .01 no doubt, the question is will it climb back up?
Posted by firefighterswct on :
We will definitly bounce back!! ive seen this a million times one impaitent person sells on the bid and brings the price down soon as they are done selling in settle out and the bid and asks come back up and we are all happy again how can you say l2's dont look good theres only 2 mm's till .02 again and good bid support thats looks great to me !! but we will have to wait and see i guesse
Posted by prefect on :
so the mm lower like that because they want people to panic sell so they can get shares??
Or is it legitimately going down?
Posted by coldmoney on :
You missing the point. You should of got out at the top.... (.02) and wait for the bottom to reinvest. Do not buy more on the ask until the selling stops. You guys have to learn how to take profit and then get back in with it at a lower price. Makes more sence to do that then to buy at .01 then it goes to .02 you dont sell. Then buy back in at .01 again The way people are hitting the bid right now she might see .01-.012 again and the ask isn't even coming down which is a very bad sign. To those who sold out this morning you did very well.
Posted by futurama08 on :
fire; b/c 1 mm, SCHB, is running the show. he brought it down from .022 all the way to where it is now and he's not done. the other mm's don't matter--he is in front of them and until he vacatates the pps will keep dropping, and dropping.
hopefully i'm wrong b/c i got >200k in this stock
Posted by kywee on :
everything is red today for me except amep...i am planning to get back into this before the news.
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
bid and ask coming together. Relax, it's going back up. Don't forget about the news. Great time to buy. I'm getting more.
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by prefect: so the mm lower like that because they want people to panic sell so they can get shares??
Or is it legitimately going down?
Both. It's not like they are walking it down with no sells. Look at the T&S you will see people were hitting the bid. MM's will not keep a stock high if people are hitting the bid. Do not get this confused with NASDAQ where peopel can dump 100k's on the bid and the stock still upticks. MM's now picked up alot of shares this morning almost 1.7m in sells and we now have to make those shares up between .016 and .022 =(
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Clyde_Crashcup: bid and ask coming together. Relax, it's going back up. Don't forget about the news. Great time to buy. I'm getting more.
I suggest you don't buy more. We don't know what direct this stock is going to head. If you have shares hold on to it. Why avg up when you run the risk of this stock going down a little more. Someone just sold 5k on the bid and downtick. Seriously guys do not get greedy here. You should of sold this morning. Being you didn't please do not avg up. Buy more once the news hit's because chances are those who sold will jump back in.
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: You missing the point. You should of got out at the top.... (.02) and wait for the bottom to reinvest. Do not buy more on the ask until the selling stops. You guys have to learn how to take profit and then get back in with it at a lower price. Makes more sence to do that then to buy at .01 then it goes to .02 you dont sell. Then buy back in at .01 again The way people are hitting the bid right now she might see .01-.012 again and the ask isn't even coming down which is a very bad sign. To those who sold out this morning you did very well.
Go preach somewhere else.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
i think everyone is forgetting about the main thing here its the news !! when this news hits the wire its going to be huge you can exspect some weak hands it happens but we will make it back up no worries !!
Posted by prefect on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: You missing the point. You should of got out at the top.... (.02) and wait for the bottom to reinvest.
how are you supposed to know .02 was the top?
from the talk yesterday it sounded like .05 was a good possibility...I guess I should learn never to put anything in these claims, huh?
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by firefighterswct: i think everyone is forgetting about the main thing here its the news !! when this news hits the wire its going to be huge you can exspect some weak hands it happens but we will make it back up no worries !!
Well said FF - the panic sellng is over.
Posted by kywee on :
the only people who got screwed were the high buyers...of course everyone who got in around .006 can sit with comfort...i doubt we will have buys until news
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
ask hits now!!
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee: the only people who got screwed were the high buyers...of course everyone who got in around .006 can sit with comfort...i doubt we will have buys until news
the buying has started
Posted by futurama08 on :
SCHB you big bully go harass someone else!!!!!! We should be at >.03
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by prefect:
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: You missing the point. You should of got out at the top.... (.02) and wait for the bottom to reinvest.
how are you supposed to know .02 was the top?
from the talk yesterday it sounded like .05 was a good possibility...I guess I should learn never to put anything in these claims, huh?
Prefect understand one thing. No one in this board knows what is going to happen the nextday unless they have a group and give a stock massive volume. EVERYONE saying .05 is there guess and there hopes of making money. I sold some shares at .02 because I saw the volume stopped on the ask. After a gap if you see no more volume on the ask it's time to get out.If it's a stock you want to invest in then you try to find the bottom and reinvest with profit. If you are a daytrader then you take profit and look for something else. Honestly this stock gapped very well and it had to come down. It's holding above .012 very well so this might be here next support line. Once news comes out she might run even higher but the key is to sell when you can. Don't wait for news to sell.
Posted by reidler88 on :
whats the bid and ask please???
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by futurama08: SCHB you big bully go harass someone else!!!!!! We should be at >.03
How can we be at .03 when everyone has been selling this morning. This had no opening buying pressure. Just pressure premarket to force a gap.
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by reidler88: whats the bid and ask please???
.013/.016
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney:
quote:Originally posted by prefect:
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: You missing the point. You should of got out at the top.... (.02) and wait for the bottom to reinvest.
how are you supposed to know .02 was the top?
from the talk yesterday it sounded like .05 was a good possibility...I guess I should learn never to put anything in these claims, huh?
Prefect understand one thing. No one in this board knows what is going to happen the nextday unless they have a group and give a stock massive volume. EVERYONE saying .05 is there guess and there hopes of making money. I sold some shares at .02 because I saw the volume stopped on the ask. After a gap if you see no more volume on the ask it's time to get out.If it's a stock you want to invest in then you try to find the bottom and reinvest with profit. If you are a daytrader then you take profit and look for something else. Honestly this stock gapped very well and it had to come down. It's holding above .012 very well so this might be here next support line. Once news comes out she might run even higher but the key is to sell when you can. Don't wait for news to sell.
You seem to be good at calling events after they happen. You almost sound like that goof ball Momo.
Posted by reidler88 on :
thnx cold,,,,,
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Selling down here just seems down right stupid lol seems like a good buying point price seems to have stablized in the .015-.016 range now if we can hold this or get more buying pressure we should be all set
Posted by futurama08 on :
Well, we're kinda just sleeping at .015. It was more exciting an hour ago, lol.
Posted by kywee on :
all the hype with no progress is going to make people think twice about getting in when news comes, so we will need outside investors
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Alright seems almost safe to say selling has stoped !! now we just need the volume !! i think it will come more with the PR then anything but i think as we get closer to the afternoon we will see some volume with people who want to get in early befour PR etc ... Lets hope for the best guys !!
Posted by Jmoove on :
Kywee, not totally true, i think lots got in this moring, and ALOT more are waiting for confirmation of news bc, I have to admit, 20-30 mill of asset infusion is quite unbelievable
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
So right Jmoove. It WILL GO MUCH HIGHER!
Posted by kywee on :
of-course it is, thats why i was scrambling to get in before close yesterday. im sure the same thing will happen EOD
Posted by prefect on :
news projected today or tomorrow?
Posted by jakeo on :
What the f is wrong with ameritrade
Posted by firefighterswct on :
late today or tommorow they are waiting for the call back confirmation from otcbb about the new symble but earlyist he said today latest he said tommorow
Posted by one2watchny on :
got in at .014 before Amer. crash
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
EOD should be fun again Posted by firefighterswct on :
ameritrade is having problems your not the only one jakeo
Posted by OO7 on :
good tactics ColdMoney, youve got my respect as a knowledgable trader!!!
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by OO7: good tactics ColdMoney, youve got my respect as a knowledgable trader!!!
Anyone can come in after the fact and play Monday morning quarterback. If he's any good he would tell everyone what's going to happen now. He can't do it.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
agreed EOD should be fun ... hoping for the news today so it will gap up tommorow but if not news on friday could be good cause thats usually a slow day for alot of stock !! .016 seems to be to good of a price .. lol considering with news and volume we could see .05-.10 but im sitten waiting and holding .. not worth selling down here the upside potential overweights the loss by alot.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Waiting for news and volume .. TICK TOC TICK TOC lol
Posted by realityinc21 on :
ameritrade is still down???
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee: all the hype with no progress is going to make people think twice about getting in when news comes, so we will need outside investors
All the hype was t oge tpeople to try t oget in pre-market to force the pps up which it did. Then they dumped on the MM's As I said I sold everything this morning and will only get back in on news and if i see buying pressure. Kywee you have to understand only a few of us are in it for the news. The rest are in it to daytrade and then move on. You learn that as you gain more experience in the market.
Posted by OO7 on :
Basing my comment on the fact he cold money got out at .02, not disrespecting anybody. As far as Im concerned anybody who got in yesterday at a good price deserves a pat on the back!! good luck to all !!!!!
Posted by coldmoney on :
Well those who got in when first posted arent really up that much to begin with. Really hope news comes out today or tommorow because if i doesn alot of people will not trust the news is coming out buy now sell tommorow line.
Posted by kywee on :
you dont know where im coming from...im saying when people start saying .05 .10 before the news, people will see that it has been done and think twice. it has nothing to do with daytraders
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Agreed cold money the news has to come out today or tommorow .. but i trust it will so no worries i think im going to put a buy in for .011 and hell if it gets that low then bonus if not then thats fine also lol
Posted by Patrick on :
This should climb back into the 30's by next week.
Thoughts, anyone?
Posted by futurama08 on :
It seems to be repeating yesterdays activity; lull until the late afternoon
Posted by coldmoney on :
How about we all put our money together and buy WTSN. Has not been frontloaded and maybe we can start a run on it what do you say?
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: How about we all put our money together and buy WTSN. Has not been frontloaded and maybe we can start a run on it what do you say?
You sound more and more like MoMo or your one of his lemmings.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
your right futureama08 lull untill late noon idk but if news comes out late afternoon or early morning people are going to feel so stupid for not loading up at these prices i mean .015 come on !! even if at a minimum it got to .03 ( whitch i think with news will go much higher) thats 100% double your money back for nothing lol o well wait and see !!
Posted by kywee on :
i think this will explode eod like yesterday
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Clyde_Crashcup:
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: How about we all put our money together and buy WTSN. Has not been frontloaded and maybe we can start a run on it what do you say?
You sound more and more like MoMo or your one of his lemmings.
You have been giving me a hard time since I've posted here. All I am saying a stock has had news with 0 volume maybe we can start a run. That's all Clyde don't be upset you didn't get out at .02
Posted by jakeo on :
hey im down cold. As soon as Atrade starts working. We should start an allstocks momentum play-
Posted by coldmoney on :
Only reason why GRDX got volume yesterday was because of the news which was suppose to be released today. Being no news came out this morning the smart people sold out and took profit. Now everyone else is waiting for news to get out at .02+ Unless anymore sells come in I believe this is the support line for the stock above .01 MM's have to pretty much keep the pps up here since people dumped on them at .02 and below.
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney:
quote:Originally posted by Clyde_Crashcup:
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: How about we all put our money together and buy WTSN. Has not been frontloaded and maybe we can start a run on it what do you say?
You sound more and more like MoMo or your one of his lemmings.
You have been giving me a hard time since I've posted here. All I am saying a stock has had news with 0 volume maybe we can start a run. That's all Clyde don't be upset you didn't get out at .02
Not upset at anything - Just hate to see newbies get taken advantage of by people like yourself.
Posted by Chas35 on :
they'll only lose money if they sell...this thing is far from done
Posted by BuyTex on :
OT: Chas, Clyde is referring to new "group pick" being proposed--well posted...
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
As far as I know and most others on this board, news wasnt supposed to hit till this afternoon or Fri morning. This morning I don't think reflected from panic sellers from lack of news.
Posted by Chas35 on :
lol i was a page behind..my post was for the guys trying to scare everyone out of this
Posted by Jmoove on :
100 signal
Posted by futurama08 on :
where do you see 100 signal?
Posted by Jmoove on :
That was me buying 100 shares. I mistyped my order lol. Sorry
Posted by reidler88 on :
can anyone get into ameritrade yet
Posted by 100prcent on :
Man, you people are holding on tight to these shares. I want some but im not paying .015
Posted by prefect on :
no shares fo you!
Posted by 100prcent on :
aw man.
Posted by so uh wheres ma money on :
ZZ..zz... it's been a pretty slow day so far.. especially with Ameritrade down.. I am just seeing my port decline in value.. by the second..lol...
Well.. we'll see what happens at days end..
Posted by Chas35 on :
i only have 15k shares wish i would have got more at 004-005...oh well at least it's green lol
Posted by Tooka56 on :
hey-call ameritrade and complain so uh. I just did and they credited my account for 10 free trades for the inconvenience.
Posted by prefect on :
who the f is selling at the bid?
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Am I the only one with Scottrade seeing T&S with 10-19 duplicate copies of a single trade?
Posted by coldmoney on :
.012/.015 now
I wonder if anyone will hit .012?
My guess is no news today and if no news comes tommorow expect to see more selling................
Posted by coldmoney on :
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee bid .01 now.... 40% spread..........
Posted by kywee on :
ask at 12
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Going down on small ass orders.
Posted by Tooka56 on :
shut it cold money-don't be a jerk.
Posted by reidler88 on :
they did say news either this afternoon or tomorrow morning,,, so if people sell i will just buy cheaper shares and sell when the news hits and laugh at the impatient people who sold and wont be able to get back in at this low price,, then i will eat at sizzler and take a nap upon my wads of cash,,,,
Posted by firefighterswct on :
i just cant beleave people are selling at these prices lol its gonna be funny when we get the PR and the price goes rght back up . .001 lol thats a joke to get in at that price wish i had more funds free i know id be getting in for that !!
Posted by reidler88 on :
i got funds comin tomorrow,,,,so no offense if i hope the news comes out tomorrow after i buy more cheap shares Posted by Tooka56 on :
Just spoke to the President of WHA. He said they will be selling the franchises next year and expect to pull in 4.5 million per team as opposed to selling them this year for 3.5 million. Said they had CCML as their sponsor doing all of the uniforms etc.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
nice . good to hear... i hope news comes tommorow also reidler my funds wont be freed up till tommorow am so i can hopefully get more down hear befour it takes off with the news
Posted by Jmoove on :
tooka, did he say anything about the PR?
Posted by Jerm on :
I'm confused... if this is true, then how does this affect the short term price of this stock? Are the try-outs on their website still accurate, etc?
Posted by Tooka56 on :
No. Give him a call if you want though-seems more than willing to discuss things. The number is 647-880-4855.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
The short term pps is the fact that a stock shell GRDX is being filled with a company worth 20-30 mill ! and by being a sports leage it will also creat more interest in the company then like a medical company etc . It should catch alot of attention when it hits news wire
Posted by Jerm on :
Thanks, fire, I understand that... just trying to understand if this slows the filling of the shell down... I'm assuming that it does not... but I don't totally understand how these work.
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Thats the confusing part with the 1/1000 r/s.
Posted by Aquapurity on :
Anyone: What was the volume yesterday?
Posted by kywee on :
1.5mil
Posted by jakeo on :
anybody want 32000 shares @ .01?
Posted by Tooka56 on :
I don't think is going to actually be a 1/1000 r/s. It just doesn't make sense if the company only has 38 million shares floating around. That would leave the company with only 38,000 shares. The guy told me on the phone that he wasn't a "stock guy" as in he didn't know much about that type of stuff. I did confirm that he does hold shares and owns the company essentially privately. I think he might have just thrown that around as a thought. We'll see though if there is a PR.
Posted by rickpic on :
13:40 09/23/2005 GRDX Grand Lux, Inc. New Common Stock WHKY World Hockey Association Corp. Common Stock
1000/1 RS
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Yea that does sound a bit overkill.
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
GRDX Grand Lux, Inc. New Common Stock WHKY World Hockey Association Corp. Common Stock 1-1000 R/S
Posted by rickpic on :
quote:Originally posted by rickpic: 13:40 09/23/2005 GRDX Grand Lux, Inc. New Common Stock WHKY World Hockey Association Corp. Common Stock
We're going to hit rock with this now. Everyone is selling off b/c of the r/s. I knew this wouldn't go over well. Somone please post where you got that from.
Posted by rickpic on :
the link is in my last post Tooka56!
Posted by kywee on :
geeze this thing is crashing
Posted by kywee on :
is there a point to get in anymore?
Posted by jakeo on :
@ .005 or below yeah there probably is
Posted by kywee on :
if its so good to get in why is there a sell off right now
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Tooka56: shut it cold money-don't be a jerk.
Should of listened to me. Sold at the time and reinvest at the bottom. Think about the concept. YOU buy at .005 sell at .02 which means you sold for a nice profit. Then you re-enter the stock when she drops t othe pps she is now with profit and when she hits .02 again it's like makin 400% profit from the first time you bought.
Posted by prefect on :
wtf I leave for 1 hour and come back to this!??!
what the hell is going on here?
Posted by jakeo on :
i dunno- 5 just seems like a good deal if your gonna hold until the shell is filled. I got out yestarday though
Posted by jakeo on :
if this thing hits 1, i am so picking up like 50 million dollars worth
Posted by kywee on :
so its suppose to go up because of the news that their getting filled with wha assests?
Posted by prefect on :
pfft no one knows wtf is going to happen why don't you all just admit that.
Posted by 100prcent on :
ouch!!
Posted by firefighterswct on :
its comming right back up maybe mm's saw something about WHA and tried to do a shake? i dont know but since they got what they needed filled with otcbb we should definitly see the PR within hourse or by tommorow morning !!! all of grdx is going to be that new stock that you saw on the otcbb site
Posted by goforbroke on :
I am not understanding what you mean by the DIVI list please explain. ________________ How do you keep an idiot in suspense?
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Here she goes again.
Posted by jakeo on :
back down to 6
Posted by firefighterswct on :
i talked to ricky Pr will be comming out first thing tommorow morning!!
Posted by kywee on :
i have no idea what this stock will do, but i just filled up at 6, good luck to all, it will be interesting
Posted by Jmoove on :
havent looked at the otcbb listings, when is the r/s effective?
Posted by kywee on :
if people actually buy EOD this will fly, its so oversold now
Posted by kywee on :
so are people still in this or did you sell?
Posted by firefighterswct on :
definitly very volitial
Posted by Jmoove on :
i have a feeling about this, and i dont have much in it, so im staying for the news
Posted by prefect on :
I am...one of the few I am sure.
All the crocks throwing ideas of .05-.10 I am sure were out this morning at .02 as was their intention all along.
Posted by Tooka56 on :
I'm here holding with an order in for another 840,000 at .005. Who knows what's going to happen.
Posted by Tooka56 on :
Haha prefect-everyone did sound a little too cocky.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
im still in this !! news is comming out tommorow am im probably going to pick up more for sure at the EOd like 330 im just wating to see if it dips any lower i freed up some funds so im ready to rock !!
Posted by Chas35 on :
I'm still in..and not going anywhere
Posted by HossTrader on :
I am still holding. Didn't see this big of a shake coming though.
Posted by kywee on :
same here jmoove. i care if i lose the money, but i dont, because i just want to see whats going to happen
Posted by Jmoove on :
the only thing that makes me think twice is this: with only 37,000 in the o/s it makes it very easy to dilute to raise money for the new league, then again nothin indicates that they need to dilute
Posted by brendo on :
I just bought. Even with a reverse split the company has the foundation to hold its value. It does not matter if I have have a 100 shares at $10 each or 100,000 shares at .01 each. This is going to be big. Below is a little history.
The old World Hockey Association (WHA) merged into the National Hockey League (NHL) in 1979. But in 2003, Allan Howell and Dr. Nick Vaccaro announced the formation of the new World Hockey Association. Former WHA star Bobby Hull (the first major star to play in the old WHA) is its commissioner.
Posted by firefighterswct on :
come on !! let go EOD run !! bid asks comming back up !!
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by prefect: pfft no one knows wtf is going to happen why don't you all just admit that.
Yesterday was the pump and today was the dump. Look at all the volume today compared to yesterday. Even fatherof2 sold today and reinvested in another stock. If you were real smart investors you would of did what I did. And no one know's what is going to happen with a stock. Not fatherof2 not anyone. Just get out once the volume dries up. You see investors never sell. Investors hold for ever. You have daytrades who put money in just to get money out and move on. You should all know how this game is played a little more before you go buying more more more shares. Why buy more shares with the money in your account if you can ride free shares?
Posted by HossTrader on :
How bad is it? What to the l2's look like?
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Jmoove: the only thing that makes me think twice is this: with only 37,000 in the o/s it makes it very easy to dilute to raise money for the new league, then again nothin indicates that they need to dilute
Very possible. That's where all this extra volume is coming from. INSIDERS SELLING SHARES!!!!!! And to the person who said even if the stock does a r/s it will hold it's value you must not know what a r/s does to a stock. They lower the amount of shares in your account while raising the pps of the stock. Which means everyone who gets stuck in the r/s usually depending on the r/s go from thousands to a few 100..... Not saying it will r/s but you have to start thinking like a daytrader. If yo uare going to follow one stock then fine but make sure you lock up profit before people dump...
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: How bad is it? What to the l2's look like?
.0055/.007
Posted by firefighterswct on :
lots of mirror buys and sells !!
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Probably best not to watch this guys Posted by brendo on :
Yo Money. You don't trust to easily do you. While you were busy explaining a basic concept like R/S the stock went up 78%. You could have been in and out. If Father did sell he likely made the logical choice we all would have. When you are up 400% it isn't time to be a hog. I'm in and expect it to run again. I only regret that I did not get in yesterday.
Posted by Tooka56 on :
No they're not. I just got filled 100k at .004.
Posted by prefect on :
are people really selling at this low levels (35)?
Talk about huge losses...
But I guess with the R/S news some capital is better than none...
Posted by firefighterswct on :
someone just sold out on bid !! o well there loss looks like there done ask back up .005
Posted by Tooka56 on :
yeah. I don'think I could get rid of all of mine even if I wanted to. I'm holding 500k. If this doesn't work out tomorrow-I think I'm done on this board.
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Lets just hope this shell fill works like some of you think it will. If it does we are in excellent shape regardless of what this stock price is.
Posted by Tooka56 on :
Firefighter-do you really expect this to go up tomorrow? I mean, honestly, I have never been in any stock that has EVER gone up after a reverse split. Additionally, moving to the OTCBB is still the same practically as staying on the pinks. MM manipulation is still very prevalent. I would love to know the reason that you're so solidly looking forward to tomorrow unless you are not holding a position. Please explain your rationale leaving out the fact that its a "good r/s."
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Home now....Hmm....... I have to go read what is going on...
Posted by prefect on :
tooka56, I wouldn't put any faith in what he says...he doesn't know what the stock is going to do any more than you do.
If he really has $10K invested he may say anything to avoid a loss on that.
Just food for thought.
Posted by Chadsly on :
Didn't everyone expect an R/S or some restructuring when moving to the OTCBB?
Posted by kywee on :
dont you all understand that grdx is going to get filled with wha assests? who gives a **** if you get 100 shares of the new symbol, thats a bonus. you will still have your grdx shares, thats what were counting on...i dont think most of you understand that
Posted by prefect on :
enlighten us kywee...
Posted by kywee on :
what do you mean...fot has told us this many times, that was the whole point to this thing...you can go back and read it
Posted by HossTrader on :
I am the first to admit that I don't know what is going to happen for sure tomorrow or ever.
This isn't "just" a reverse split. This is a shell being filled AND a reverse split.
Now we get to see which influences investors more. The shell getting filled and the dollar value of the company's assets shooting up or the fear of the r/s.
Posted by kywee on :
im sure you wont, so here it is...
quote:Originally posted by FatherOfTwo: From a tech perspective, the chart is looking good with the MACD crossing over and the RSI showing oversold.
The reason why I like this company is that they are a pink sheet about to get filled with assets…..The current owner of GRDX is going to “give” a large portion of stock to the new owners and keep a certain percentage of shares for his own personal portfolio, while spinning all the current assets into a new company of which we as GRDX shareholders will receive a Dividend in the new company, while maintaining all our shares of the newly filled shell.
To me, this means that they quickly figured out it was cheaper to acquire some pink she et shell (providing the current owner with a small percentage of shares to keep), fill it with their own assets and obtain their own private financing, than it would be to have an IPO, where the investment bankers pocket a large percentage of the potential offering and proceeds.
In the second pr.... they announce that the current GRDX assets will be cleared out and put into another company. This is because the WHA wants a clean shell without any other baggage to have to deal with! I think that the team owners do not want any other entities, like golf or real estate, to compete with their financing.
Now, everyone knows that the NHL has agreed to a new owners/players contract…
However, how much of a pay cut did the players have to take??? There are going to be a lot of star players upset about losing so much $$$ and could easily be swayed to move if the dollar is right. On top of that, there are plenty of smaller markets dying to get a professional sports team. This is just the start of the new league and may take a year or two to become viable, but they have already done it once before and they can do it again. And with a notable celebrity player as the new commissioner.. Namely the Golden Jet himself… Mr. Bobby Hull…. There will be plenty of investors that he will have access to help get this thing launched!
Posted by kywee on :
quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: I am the first to admit that I don't know what is going to happen for sure tomorrow or ever.
This isn't "just" a reverse split. This is a shell being filled AND a reverse split.
Now we get to see which influences investors more. The shell getting filled and the dollar value of the company's assets shooting up or the fear of the r/s.
wow someone actually understands
Posted by firefighterswct on :
Your right prefect i dont know what the stock is going to do if i did i wouldent be typing right now because i would be to rich to even care heck no one knows whats it going to do but i do know this. The stock is getting filled with the WHA A pr stating that will be out tommorow morning there will be a 1/1000 RS Theill be moving to the otcbb and heck they have 20-30 mill in assetts
if you ask me the stock right now is way under vauled and from past experance of stock shells thats have gotten filled they always explode but who knows
Posted by prefect on :
sure I won't?
I read this 8/30 when I bought the fricken stock.
What I am saying is, just because a shell is getting filled doesn't mean instant wealth for those that invested.
Posted by Tooka56 on :
However, have you ever ever ever seen an otcbb that was worth more than $5? Let me rephrase that-that traded at or above $5? They all go south and don't trade that high. This is what I'm worried about-maybe it is a stellar company, but so is MBAH. Yet, they continue to experience a landslide because this is the OTCBB, not the AMEX, NYSE, or NASDAQ. Institutional investors don't come down here folks. Be happy to eat my words tomorrow, but this is my worry.
Posted by DQ. on :
What tha??? Sold other stocks to buy this one. Bought at .0095 thinking that was good. Came home to see I'm in the gutter. Where's that .07 or .10 today we were all hearing about??
Posted by kywee on :
of course it doesnt...what we are trying to point out is its not only a split, people are forgetting the shell
Posted by prefect on :
quote:Originally posted by firefighterswct: The stock is getting filled with the WHA A pr stating that will be out tommorow morning there will be a 1/1000 RS Theill be moving to the otcbb and heck they have 20-30 mill in assetts
if you ask me the stock right now is way under vauled and from past experance of stock shells thats have gotten filled they always explode but who knows
If this was all true wouldn't you think people would be loading up instead of selling like the world is ending?
Posted by Tooka56 on :
BTW-the orders are filling at .0035. I just tried with $1k and it filled my entire order in about 25 seconds.
Posted by kywee on :
tooka, what are you talking about $5?
Posted by kywee on :
there filling so fast because people are selling like crazy
Posted by Tooka56 on :
Well it won't be $5 now. It'll be more like $3 because it bases itself on the closing price the day before. A r/s of 1/1000 means that the opening price tomorrow will be 1000 times the previous days closing price and you'll have (your share count)/1000 in your account so you're looking at an opening price tomorrow of between $3-3.50 with a one thousandth of your share count.
Posted by kywee on :
are you talking about the new symbol?
Posted by Tooka56 on :
Yes. I am holding 627000 shares of GRDX, therefore, tomorrow I will wake up and find myself holding only 627 probably at a price of 3.50. I'm not trying to sound patronizing, that just seemed like a proper way to explain my point.
Posted by kywee on :
i understand. but i dont most of us are in for that. you will still have 627000 shares of grdx with wha assests. its all about how investors see it
Posted by Tooka56 on :
Lol-ok, that is one perspective. Rough day guys, let's see what happens. Hopefully that yayhoo of a president will have the PR posted before trading commences or I guarantee we're toast.
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Tooka56: yeah. I don'think I could get rid of all of mine even if I wanted to. I'm holding 500k. If this doesn't work out tomorrow-I think I'm done on this board.
Do not blame the board. You should blame yourself. You should of got in low and sell once the volume dried up.... Do not let all this DD and price predicating allow you to hold a stock longer then you have to. Sell when the volume dries up. You have to know that weithe or not this get's filled if no one buys it will not move. I am very happy this stock dropped this low. I called my broker and I am sitting on bid with NITE. I am going to try to buy 5k bucks worth. So if it does go back to .02 on next rumor of news I will be banking big time alittle over 400% if i can sell all of my shares that high...
Posted by kywee on :
good luck all, and too whoever got in at .003-.004 you will make serious bank if it does go up
Posted by HossTrader on :
This is not how I was hoping the day would end! Posted by Rules on :
I couldn't resist taking a position at .0034 here at close. Worth sitting on to see what happens tomorrow.
Posted by Tooka56 on :
Excuse me, coldmoney, momo, whatever, you boast a lot about your "abilities." Please do as you wish and save the bragging for the preschool playground. Sleep well guys and see you tomorrow. I'd love to hear your take Lil when you get a sec.
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Tooka56: Excuse me, coldmoney, momo, whatever, you boast a lot about your "abilities." Please do as you wish and save the bragging for the preschool playground. Sleep well guys and see you tomorrow. I'd love to hear your take Lil when you get a sec.
Tooka don't beupset because you are in red. It happens to the best of us. You should of known how the game is played. Why do you think Rules bought in low. He probley knew it was going to sell of big time and will wiat for next push. I even told you guys last night this would happen. All these plays have one huge spike and then next day she drops like a rock. No news just BS to get you guys to force gap so people can sell out....
Posted by HossTrader on :
coldmoney, how old are you? He asks you to back off on the gloating and you come back with "I told you so?"
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Clyde_Crashcup: This will find a new group of investors today. Lil - we need the dancing baby to stir up some mojo.
Good job clyde you were able to "dump" on the new wave of investors so you can get out at .02 I now aot of you guys who were in the first run got out at .02 this morning. You aren't fooling anyone by saying I am waiting for next PR because you know you are already out...
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: coldmoney, how old are you? He asks you to back off on the gloating and you come back with "I told you so?"
I'm sorry. I picked up some shares on bid before close. Someone PM me when the next wave of rumors start so I can get out over .01 please. Thanks
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney:
quote:Originally posted by Clyde_Crashcup: This will find a new group of investors today. Lil - we need the dancing baby to stir up some mojo.
Good job clyde you were able to "dump" on the new wave of investors so you can get out at .02 I now aot of you guys who were in the first run got out at .02 this morning. You aren't fooling anyone by saying I am waiting for next PR because you know you are already out...
Institutional investors you idiot. Of course your not smart enough to know that.
Posted by Rules on :
Well if any news of an empty shell being filled with assets will only make this stock explode upwards on a way bigger scale then yesterday's big gain.
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney:
quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: coldmoney, how old are you? He asks you to back off on the gloating and you come back with "I told you so?"
I'm sorry. I picked up some shares on bid before close. Someone PM me when the next wave of rumors start so I can get out over .01 please. Thanks
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules: Well if any news of an empty shell being filled with assets will only make this stock explode upwards on a way bigger scale then yesterday's big gain.
Rules but there isn't any news. It was just a rumor if it being released. That then caused people to rush in and try to get a psotion on the stock while those who got in at lower prices and those who were in when it was posted awhile back sell into the run of the new wave. AKA pump and dump. Hopefully the news comes out soon so everyone can atleast break even but as I always say buy low sell high and lock profits when you can.
Posted by HossTrader on :
Actually, the rumor was that news would be released this afternoon or tomorrow morning. That rumor coupled with yesterdays upgrade of the website, the fact that try-outs are this weekend, and now that they have filed to change the symbol all seems to be good indicators that the rumor might be correct. We will know one way or the other tomorrow.
Posted by kywee on :
damn you are really annoying
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Tooka56: We're going to hit rock with this now. Everyone is selling off b/c of the r/s. I knew this wouldn't go over well. Somone please post where you got that from.
LMAO are you serious they are doing a r/s Oh great..... No all of your shares are going to be worthless at a higher price. The shell had to make money somehow. To bad it took it from investors.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
My take. I don't know what will happen tomorrow. I'm hoping the news hits before the bell and we all make bank.. Selling tomorrow....One way or another!
Good luck all...Gonna' go Have a nice drink!.
Cheers all!
Posted by Rules on :
Actually, by the looks of the chart, the stock is technically oversold already so that means up is the next logical move. Don't be surprised to see this one run again here shortly as I think the bottom was right at close! Tomorrow it is going up;0)
Posted by Chas35 on :
since you're so brilliant make us all some money cold..post some picks of your own with some solid dd...this board is for us all to help each other..it's hard enough to make money in this market without people like you coming in telling people how stupid they are after a stock falls..this could have gone the other direction today just as easy
Posted by Rules on :
I don't think it is a rumor. Personally all indicators point to big news coming soon as the company is moving into the next big phase. Just because the stock dumped today means nothing as the chances of those getting back in for another big run is very high since it doesn't take much to make this stock move. Could you imagine what this stock would do on a monster PR with symbol change, empty shell being filled, and getting listed on the big board???? Need I say more???
Posted by HossTrader on :
quote:Originally posted by Chas35: since you're so brilliant make us all some money cold..post some picks of your own with some solid dd...this board is for us all to help each other..it's hard enough to make money in this market without people like you coming in telling people how stupid they are after a stock falls..this could have gone the other direction today just as easy
Chas, he isn't actually reading the board much. He just realized about 2-3 posts before this one that the r/s had been announced this afternoon causing the big plummet in pps. He was too busy believing his own hype. Mainly bashing and gloating.
Posted by Ric on :
I adhere to the 2's rule for penny stock. If you follow pennies as long as I have then you can see patterns. One pattern that I have noticed is most runs stop around a 2. (.002, .02, and .20). This may not happen every time but it is real common with .20 almost impossible to break. And they all fall back to the nearest 1 afterwards.
Just a thought for the future. I sold at .018
Posted by kywee on :
now the dump makes sense...
people saw that split was announced and they thought its a bad thing, which it kinda is, but they dont know that their GRDX shares will fill with WHA assests.
So...once they announce it tomorrow we should be good
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by Ric: I adhere to the 2's rule for penny stock. If you follow pennies as long as I have then you can see patterns. One pattern that I have noticed is most runs stop around a 2. (.002, .02, and .20). This may not happen every time but it is real common with .20 almost impossible to break.
Just a thought for the future. I sold at .018
Negative ghost leader, HISC blew through those barriers with no problem. Same for CESY and soon to be this one. Congrats on the profit but there is still more to be made as the pattern for pennies also show large gains, large selloffs, then gains again.
Posted by Ric on :
Then you better look back at HISC. It did stop at .02 for awhile then after that settled it ran again to right below .20 and couldn't break through. You should at least know what your talking about before calling me names. And cesy was a bounce because it was over that and dropped like a rock then bounced back.
Posted by kywee on :
i have followed the 2 rule since you told me on EYII back in early august and its a charm
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by Ric: Then you better look back at HISC. It did stop at .02 for awhile then after that settled it ran again to right below .20 and couldn't break through. You should at least know what your talking about before calling me names. And cesy was a bounce because it was over that and dropped like a rock then bounced back.
Lol I didn't call you names unless you are offended by Ghost Leader....pilot talk Hisc didn't have any problem at .02 it was .03! I do know what I am talking about as I own both!
Posted by coldmoney on :
Your right I wasn't reading every post because I already took profit. When is the R/S suppose to take place. If it's tommorow they will kick off the new ticker with PR and leave everyone holding the bag very upset. And for the record I never called anyone stupid. And someone said this would happen today that a r/s would be released today. Read back and you will the post. Not to mention F02 posted how good the chart was but didn't help the stock at all today. It closed 83% in red how can you look foward to anything knowing a R/S is coming?
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Tooka56: I don't think is going to actually be a 1/1000 r/s. It just doesn't make sense if the company only has 38 million shares floating around. That would leave the company with only 38,000 shares. The guy told me on the phone that he wasn't a "stock guy" as in he didn't know much about that type of stuff. I did confirm that he does hold shares and owns the company essentially privately. I think he might have just thrown that around as a thought. We'll see though if there is a PR.
They are going to do it and what makes it even more funnnier is that the o/s will be so low. No one will buy this stock at what ever price it is going to be at... Not to mention they are taking your money to start the company off.
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee: now the dump makes sense...
people saw that split was announced and they thought its a bad thing, which it kinda is, but they dont know that their GRDX shares will fill with WHA assests.
So...once they announce it tomorrow we should be good
Asset and shares has no relation. Just because a stock makes 1 trillion dollars in 1 month doesn't mean the pps will go up. You have to be able to attract new investors to have an increase in volume. And once a stock has a r/s the CEO are usually not trusted. And as fr as what ric said there is no pattern in a stock. It may just be bad luck that 10 stocks can't break .02 or .002 .20 out of the thousands that can be traded. And a r/s is a very bad thing my friend. Nothing good can come from it besides the CEO pockets profit from shareholders shares...
Posted by jakeo on :
Just a thought here- Since there is a reverse split and say 300,000 shares @ .003 is going to equal 300 shares @ 3.00 in the morning. "Seems" like it doesnt give it very much room to move up w/o the news of the shell filling, even considering it will be listed on the OTC. It is for certain they will annouce both at the same time? Otherwise might as well jump out cause all you got then is a R/S.
Posted by Rules on :
Still haven't read where it was officially announced that a r/s was coming tomorrow! Usually splits occur in the future following a PR! Never seen a surprise r/s so most likely that is a seriously bogus rumor. Tomorrow will probably be a great PR stating the move and then a date when the r/s will take place. Plenty of run up time!
Posted by will on :
Have to watch that hype. The other day when this was struggling at .003 / .0035 I seriously considered buying some. Then I saw people talking about it going to dimes and dollars, and said, no thank you. Some things are too good to be true sometime. I have no idea if it will fly when it fills or if you'll be scrambling to salvage something. I do know it was a shall play, and they can be highly profitable and fun to be part of. Hope there is still $$$ in it for everyone.
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Well they did what they wanted to do. They hired a promoter to get it volume so they can raise money for the company and they trapped everyone in a r/s, If yo uare holding shares you will be ver sade tommorow morning. I believe some peopel who have been pumping this stock knew this was going to happen. No possible way a r/s is for a company..........
Posted by samsun on :
13:40 09/23/2005 GRDX Grand Lux, Inc. New Common Stock WHKY World Hockey Association Corp. Common Stock 1-1000 R/S
Straight from the OTC BOARD
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules: Still haven't read where it was officially announced that a r/s was coming tomorrow! Usually splits occur in the future following a PR! Never seen a surprise r/s so most likely that is a seriously bogus rumor. Tomorrow will probably be a great PR stating the move and then a date when the r/s will take place. Plenty of run up time!
Rules read the link posted
13:40 09/23/2005 GRDX Grand Lux, Inc. New Common Stock WHKY World Hockey Association Corp. Common Stock 1-1000 R/S
The r/s will happen first thing in the morning. The stock symbil will have changed and your account will be in red big time.... The worst R/S was of WFTV they did it like 3 mintues before close. The pr will happen tommorow on this stock. They had this planned out guys. Just face the fact. The PR will come tommorow with the new symbol/
Posted by Rules on :
Still going to enjoy the ride lol. Again, once this shell fills only good things will follow. I still see $$$$$$$ so I am going to enjoy this symbol change, PR, getting listed.......I think it's a good thing. Tomorrow is going to be fun!
Posted by coldmoney on :
LOOK AT THE DATE IN WHICH THE R/S WILL OCCUR.
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: Well they did what they wanted to do. They hired a promoter to get it volume so they can raise money for the company and they trapped everyone in a r/s, If yo uare holding shares you will be ver sade tommorow morning. I believe some peopel who have been pumping this stock knew this was going to happen. No possible way a r/s is for a company..........
The more I read your garbage, I swear you are Momo. Why don't you return to the rock that you crawled out from under.
Posted by coldmoney on :
I guess today you got your news. To bad it wasn't the news you were expecting..... That''s what happens when you buy promo's
Posted by whiteschmuck on :
You guys think right after the R/S it's a good buy time?
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by whiteschmuck: You guys think right after the R/S it's a good buy time?
It's the best time. But after a r/s the PPS usually goes down because bagholders ten to sell out. So might want to wait awhile. This was just a plot to raise money and it worked. Thank god I was not caught in it.
Posted by Tooka56 on :
God is spelled with a capital G, momo. You, however, are not. Is there a vacuum anywhere around here? There some dirt I'd like to get rid of!
Posted by billyboo on :
You weren't caught in it?
So, this was just BS?
quote: Originally posted by coldmoney: I picked up some shares on bid before close. Someone PM me when the next wave of rumors start so I can get out over .01 please. Thanks
Posted by kywee on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney:
quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: coldmoney, how old are you? He asks you to back off on the gloating and you come back with "I told you so?"
I'm sorry. I picked up some shares on bid before close. Someone PM me when the next wave of rumors start so I can get out over .01 please. Thanks
man...looks like your caught in it too!!
no one cares what you have to say, you just create anger, but thats what bashers do
i dont care if the pps falls through the bottom, thats why you only invest how much your willing to lose moron. quit telling people how to play the game
i knew you were full of it when you pmed me today trying to tell me what to do
Posted by kywee on :
and i know im feeding the fire and being immature, but man those post are so frustrating to read
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Tooka56: God is spelled with a capital G, momo. You, however, are not. Is there a vacuum anywhere around here? There some dirt I'd like to get rid of!
You don't even know who momo is. I put a buy order in on the bid and get this. I picked up 500 bucks. Who cares I made 8k this morning so it's all good. You guys are trying to sugar coat this. Instead of looking for errors in my english learn how to read SEC paper work and maybe next time you will not get caught in a r/s
Posted by Virgil on :
Money, does your mom know you are on the computer?
Posted by kywee on :
were trying to sugar coat this? really...when i just said i dont care if the pps falls through the bottom...maybe you really arent reading the post
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee:
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney:
quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: coldmoney, how old are you? He asks you to back off on the gloating and you come back with "I told you so?"
I'm sorry. I picked up some shares on bid before close. Someone PM me when the next wave of rumors start so I can get out over .01 please. Thanks
man...looks like your caught in it too!!
no one cares what you have to say, you just create anger, but thats what bashers do
i dont care if the pps falls through the bottom, thats why you only invest how much your willing to lose moron. quit telling people how to play the game
i knew you were full of it when you pmed me today trying to tell me what to do
Yup I PM'ED you and you should of listened to me when i told you o be careful. nOW YOUR EGO just costed you all your cash. Good luck.......... I am done here
Posted by kywee on :
haha all of my cash? damn i guess you can see my portfolio...
Posted by Sunnyside on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney:
quote:Originally posted by Tooka56: God is spelled with a capital G, momo. You, however, are not. Is there a vacuum anywhere around here? There some dirt I'd like to get rid of!
You don't even know who momo is. I put a buy order in on the bid and get this. I picked up 500 bucks. Who cares I made 8k this morning so it's all good. You guys are trying to sugar coat this. Instead of looking for errors in my english learn how to read SEC paper work and maybe next time you will not get caught in a r/s
The only POS on the exchange is you. No one is envious so no need to boost your BS, A-H. And, who gives a crap about who momo is? Only you/momo. Beat it.
Posted by DQ. on :
Well I have to say I fell for all of yesterdays hype. I wanted to see .10 too! I bought this afternoon at .0095 and thought "what a bargain". I see the R/S news. Oh well,, only bought 900 bucks worth but now thats down to $270 in about and hour. Guess that's how it goes. I can say that with it this low...I'll just hold what I have and hope the big shell fill assets drive us up. Not selling crap now...LONG TERM here we come!!
Posted by coldmoney on :
Kywee you told me you bought 10k at .01 and 5k at .017 what you make doesn't effect how much i have. You lost and I am sorry to say I am happy YOU did because of your attitude. You have a nice day and enjoy your 3.00 stock. I know Fatherof2 didn't get stuck in it because he promo'ed it.
Posted by coldmoney on :
and 10k I mean in cash not in shares.....
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by Sunnyside:
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney:
quote:Originally posted by Tooka56: God is spelled with a capital G, momo. You, however, are not. Is there a vacuum anywhere around here? There some dirt I'd like to get rid of!
You don't even know who momo is. I put a buy order in on the bid and get this. I picked up 500 bucks. Who cares I made 8k this morning so it's all good. You guys are trying to sugar coat this. Instead of looking for errors in my english learn how to read SEC paper work and maybe next time you will not get caught in a r/s
The only POS on the exchange is you. No one is envious so no need to boost your BS, A-H. And, who gives a crap about who momo is? Only you/momo. Beat it.
I'm sure he's beating it as he post his BS. Strange way to get pleasure.
Posted by coldmoney on :
I hope you now realize that fatherof2 is a promoter who only cares about making CEO happy. He told the CEO of the company he can raise the funds for GRDX so they can get the money they need for what ever reason. Then now the day he posted it the first time they had some BS pr and the pps dropped like a rock. Now yesterday he posted PR will be released tommorow everyone buy now. So everyone bought and the stock closed huge in green yesterday. He then told people to hold on to shares or buy more at the bottom. The stock then gaps up huge and the BID even hit .02. The people sold and the stock dropped down. Now everyone is waiting for the news and guess what news they got? News that they are doing a r/s as of tommorow and now all these guys are in red atleast 50% and have to do deal with a r/s tommorow. That's how fatherof2 pays his followers. He doesn't care about your money. Get in and get out and dontlisten to his chart DD and al that crap. Everytime he post a chart the stock drops. Get in and getout thats the only way.....
Posted by kywee on :
i did? i dont even have 5k in my account man. i mean you can insult me and all, but i didnt think you would go as low as to lie heh...
Posted by Sunnyside on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: I hope you now realize that fatherof2 is a promoter who only cares about making CEO happy. He told the CEO of the company he can raise the funds for GRDX so they can get the money they need for what ever reason. Then now the day he posted it the first time they had some BS pr and the pps dropped like a rock. Now yesterday he posted PR will be released tommorow everyone buy now. So everyone bought and the stock closed huge in green yesterday. He then told people to hold on to shares or buy more at the bottom. The stock then gaps up huge and the BID even hit .02. The people sold and the stock dropped down. Now everyone is waiting for the news and guess what news they got? News that they are doing a r/s as of tommorow and now all these guys are in red atleast 50% and have to do deal with a r/s tommorow. That's how fatherof2 pays his followers. He doesn't care about your money. Get in and get out and dontlisten to his chart DD and al that crap. Everytime he post a chart the stock drops. Get in and getout thats the only way.....
Doesn't matter you rambling idiot, we don't like YOU.
Posted by kywee on :
i still cant get over the fact that you said i told you that i bought $15,000 worth of this stock...but hey, i have a life and im leaving to go out, so have fun on your computer all night bashing stock forums
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: I hope you now realize that fatherof2 is a promoter who only cares about making CEO happy. He told the CEO of the company he can raise the funds for GRDX so they can get the money they need for what ever reason. Then now the day he posted it the first time they had some BS pr and the pps dropped like a rock. Now yesterday he posted PR will be released tommorow everyone buy now. So everyone bought and the stock closed huge in green yesterday. He then told people to hold on to shares or buy more at the bottom. The stock then gaps up huge and the BID even hit .02. The people sold and the stock dropped down. Now everyone is waiting for the news and guess what news they got? News that they are doing a r/s as of tommorow and now all these guys are in red atleast 50% and have to do deal with a r/s tommorow. That's how fatherof2 pays his followers. He doesn't care about your money. Get in and get out and dontlisten to his chart DD and al that crap. Everytime he post a chart the stock drops. Get in and getout thats the only way.....
FOT is not a "promoter". It's funny how a notorious "promoter" like yourself would even post that. Of course you'll now say that I'm in on it as well as Lil.
How many people got PM'd by Momo Coldmoney today to play his frontloaded picks??
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee: i did? i dont even have 5k in my account man. i mean you can insult me and all, but i didnt think you would go as low as to lie heh...
It's the only way he can make it. He's not smart enough to make it without screwing people over.
Posted by Jerm on :
FOT, when you get a chance I'd love to hear from you about today's events and what you think is instore for this stock... even if it is bad news I'd like to hear your oppinion. Thanks.
Posted by coldmoney on :
Only reason why GRDX got volume yesterday was because of the news which was suppose to be released today. Being no news came out this morning the smart people sold out and took profit. Now everyone else is waiting for news to get out at .02+ Unless anymore sells come in I believe this is the support line for the stock above .01 MM's have to pretty much keep the pps up here since people dumped on them at .02 and below.
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Clyde_Crashcup:
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: I hope you now realize that fatherof2 is a promoter who only cares about making CEO happy. He told the CEO of the company he can raise the funds for GRDX so they can get the money they need for what ever reason. Then now the day he posted it the first time they had some BS pr and the pps dropped like a rock. Now yesterday he posted PR will be released tommorow everyone buy now. So everyone bought and the stock closed huge in green yesterday. He then told people to hold on to shares or buy more at the bottom. The stock then gaps up huge and the BID even hit .02. The people sold and the stock dropped down. Now everyone is waiting for the news and guess what news they got? News that they are doing a r/s as of tommorow and now all these guys are in red atleast 50% and have to do deal with a r/s tommorow. That's how fatherof2 pays his followers. He doesn't care about your money. Get in and get out and dontlisten to his chart DD and al that crap. Everytime he post a chart the stock drops. Get in and getout thats the only way.....
FOT is not a "promoter". It's funny how a notorious "promoter" like yourself would even post that. Of course you'll now say that I'm in on it as well as Lil.
How many people got PM'd by Momo Coldmoney today to play his frontloaded picks??
No one. I do not make plays. I daytrade the plays posted here and on other boards. What is fatherof2 going to say? Ummmm Nice chart and talk about the macd LINE. Why is it the chart could not predict the stock would drop 83%. Didn't the chart show it was going to keep going up. In other words the chart means nothing. Fatherof2 get's all this DD and info from where? He get's called by companies to give his stock exposer. He does a good job on that. To bad he doesn't even post his plays on the site inwhich he is a mod of. Don't you find that weird? I sure do. He comes here and pumps while you buy in and he sell's his promo shares. Then gives you all this DD so yo ucan look towards the future while the stock get's halted by the SEC and even drops as he calls it. Trust me he get's shares for post on this board. I put money he will not even post tommorow. Was no where to be found today. If he really cared about you guys he would of told you this was going to happen.
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: Only reason why GRDX got volume yesterday was because of the news which was suppose to be released today. Being no news came out this morning the smart people sold out and took profit. Now everyone else is waiting for news to get out at .02+ Unless anymore sells come in I believe this is the support line for the stock above .01 MM's have to pretty much keep the pps up here since people dumped on them at .02 and below.
Lol...hmmm wonder what your motive is here One person cannot drive a stock down just like one person cannot drive a stock up. Personally I like where my position is at .0034. Like most here, I don't have my house on it so either this stock explodes up big tomorrow or I become a long term investor of the company. Either way, you can't shake my position cause I am not selling to you Posted by Rules on :
You posted conflicting information stating you were in at the close today and then shortly after you stated the opposite. After being called out, you stated you do have money on this stock. I tend not to believe that as all of your negativity would only serve to wish the stock price down and anyone in their right mind would not take a position and then post all of the doom and gloom you have today. That is my opinion but it is obvious you have a angle here and it appears to be you want everyone to turn against FOT. Personally, FOT is not a fortune teller so unless you can predict perfect plays before they happen, it would be mighty big of you to claim you are the greatest and head back to the great momo site.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
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Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Ok.....first of all. FatherOfTwo DID NOT post yesterday that news would be coming today. I believe that it was StockGranny and then fire that posted after her.... FOT got on only a couple of times after that AND.....ALSO STATED THAT HE WOULD BE ON BUSINESS IN NM FOR A FEW DAYS COMING BACK THIS EVENING! stating he would not be able to post much. He will be back tonight and sure he will give his two cents worth. NOW.........I know he still has shares....!!!! OF COURSE IT DROPPED! I read yesterday a lot of people were selling on the gap.....I for one sold some but, kept most as I said I would for the shell news...
NOW THAT WE ALL HAVE TO EXPLAIN OUR TRADING......ARE YOU HAPPY?!!!!!!!!
Posted by Jmoove on :
best case scenario: 37000 shares 30 mill in assets, pps $800 or so 29600000, lol worst case, loose $500 if they dilute the hell out of this, worth the risk to even get to $30 pps? yup As most said this was a lottery ticket, don't expect to win, though this was looking good yesterday
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Rules: You posted conflicting information stating you were in at the close today and then shortly after you stated the opposite. After being called out, you stated you do have money on this stock. I tend not to believe that as all of your negativity would only serve to wish the stock price down and anyone in their right mind would not take a position and then post all of the doom and gloom you have today. That is my opinion but it is obvious you have a angle here and it appears to be you want everyone to turn against FOT. Personally, FOT is not a fortune teller so unless you can predict perfect plays before they happen, it would be mighty big of you to claim you are the greatest and head back to the great momo site.
How do you believe I can bring this stock down? It's going to do a r/s tommorow. Don't you understand that? Don't you understand the ticker and pps will change? Don't you understand the CEO of this company did this to raise money for his company? Don't you understand that the promoter knew this was coming. You are blinded by your love for a person who doesn't even care enough to tell you a r/s is coming. I seen people bash captinnemo's face in when WFTV did a r/s... Why is it no one is upset with FO2. Sorry to see the die-hard FO2 fans got killed in this but I know he is planning his next move and you will fall for it again.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Just re-read my post.....Yek!
Anyway. I'm in for the rest of the ride with you all and I know FOT is as well. He is a good, honest man....I have known him for quite a while and have traded along with him and a lot of others on this board. I don't appreciate the bashing and out right lies about him... Now I know coldmoney can not back up his claims about FOT and is making some pretty nasty accusations and must say I have agreed with some of what he had to say......(A few pages back), Now gloves off... Don't begin to make statements about someone on this board without backing it up......WON'T FLY HERE!!! See ya'!
Posted by prefect on :
my biggest problem is that I did win...this morning I was up HUGE...
but due to my inexperience and believing the hype from a few of the members on the board I held onto my shares (obviously I was too greedy).
was in a meeting for a few hours this morning and afterwards found that all my winnings had evaporated and I was flirting with red. by the end of the day red became a reality.
anyway...
i am disappointed only in myself..."pigs get slaugtered" man is that ever true!
at least now I know what to do the next time I am in this situation (if there is a next time of course).
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Jmoove: best case scenario: 37000 shares 30 mill in assets, pps $800 or so 29600000, lol worst case, loose $500 if they dilute the hell out of this, worth the risk to even get to $30 pps? yup As most said this was a lottery ticket, don't expect to win, though this was looking good yesterday
I don't understand how you come up with these crazy number's Just because a stock is expected to have 30m in asset doesn't mean the stock pps will increase. 1) They will have to come out with some great pr and stop selling insider shares. 2) They will also have to some how have to gain the trust of future investors because they have done a r/s. 3) For a investor like firefighter to call the company an speak to someone and they tell him "PR is to be released tommorow (today) or the next day and the "pr" IS A R/S how do you think that will sit with investors? We will have to see if PR comes out tommorow with the new symbol if they don't then the CEO had this planned out prefectly.....
Posted by BuyTex on :
kids, kids...relax--
This is what Mo does best: create FUD--fear, uncertainty and doubt. Clyde, sorry, maybe I should've been more explicit. Yes, this is Mo's latest alias--couldn't be more clear. Thought I settled that last night, lol...
What's interesting, though? And this *is* a new wrinkle: notice the accusations that FoT is a promoter? Why would Mo suddenly shift his attack on FoT to include the promo-salesman angle?
Could it be Mo just learned about promos? Could it be some unscrupulous promoter learned about Mo?
hmmm....
Mo, given our past, I gotta ask: Who you promo-ing for? If you won't own up to that, why don't you explain to the nice folks how these promos work?
Posted by Tooka56 on :
Haha-I would actually like to know: it's somewhat interesting. Besides, I thought you were leaving amigo? You have no ability here anymore, we spot you everytime and then you have to go get a new name...lalalala and it starts all over again. Go become an actual member of the workforce and do something!
Posted by Jmoove on :
Did you notice the "lol"? Man, you don't even have a sense of humor, I lost money, oh well, no sense in blaming anyone or trying to explain why it happened, move on
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by prefect: my biggest problem is that I did win...this morning I was up HUGE...
but due to my inexperience and believing the hype from a few of the members on the board I held onto my shares (obviously I was too greedy).
was in a meeting for a few hours this morning and afterwards found that all my winnings had evaporated and I was flirting with red. by the end of the day red became a reality.
anyway...
i am disappointed only in myself..."pigs get slaugtered" man is that ever true!
at least now I know what to do the next time I am in this situation (if there is a next time of course).
Prefect do not even read what these people have to say. They make these outrages PPS so try to get people to hold while they wait for the volume to dry up and sell. Take profit while you can. You saw what this stock did last time. I found it very weird that the first time SCHB was selling a tond of shares on the bid and then yesterday she was upticking up 5k orders. MM know when a r/s is coming thus they allow the pps t ofly to attract more buyers so they can hit them hard on the ask to get rid of there shares.. Your right I maybe can not prove what I said about Fatherof2 but where else do you think he get's all this info from and he always seems to have plays lined up one after another. That's what promoters do. If Fatherof2 is a promoter big chance he got promo shares which means the o/s had to go up. Check the o/s of this stock 1 year or and compare it to the o/s when he first posted it. I bet you they aren't the same. Isn't very hard to spot a promoter. He pumps here to get your volume into the play. Doesn't even post them on his board why is that?
Posted by Virgil on :
LOL You go Sunny. Damn near spit my coffee on the keyboard.
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Doesn't even post them on his board why is that?
tells me *YOU ARE* the promoter...
Otherwise, why bring up "his board"?
Darth Goofus!
Posted by Ric on :
You just need to know how these shells work. When there is a reverse merger when a private company buys a shell and reverse merges into that company then they need to make their money back. So usually they dilute the shares soon after taking over to pay for the buyout and also to raise capital. Because why go public if not to raise capital.
Now when they finish diluting to pay for everything and make the money they need then they do a reverse split to where they want the stock to be and they are off and running. This is not something a few of these do. All of them do it. It would be stupid to give people (Shareholders) your company for nothing. The reason you go public is to raise capital. Just with these shell buyouts where the bypass the IPO process they not only need to raise capital but also pay off the debt of the buyout.
Thats why the hype is the play. The rest is risk because the only companies that go this route is small-caps that would have a hard time getting through the SEC - IPO process. So now all you can hope for after the r/s is if you hold long the company can make it without having to dilute even further. Thats why the beginning process should always be in and out until the dust settles.
Posted by Virgil on :
Dude take your medicine and go to bed, ain't no corruption here today.
Posted by Rules on :
LOl, for those who didn't like my posts please give me 1 stars as I find it funny that people even use this. Like that is suppose to keep me from having an opinion about bashers! Lol
Posted by corndo on :
Ok. Maybe now we can get back to figuring out what is going on with this stock. They are having a name and sybolchange. They are also havong a R/S tomorrow. Yet, one thing remains: the assets. If there are less shares it could mean one of two things: (IMHO) 1) they are a paper stock making machine and are going into full gear for the next round tomorrow or 2) They are going to hold these shares closely so that the pps does actually go up into the crazy numbers realm.
Bet: they are going to hold thier share tight and not only will it be difficult to get in, it will be harder than geting into Goggle right now. (anyone have a spare $300.00 per share lying around?...yeeeeeaah, exactly) I think my lottery ticket just got a whole lot more interesting at COB today.
Posted by HossTrader on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney:
quote:Originally posted by whiteschmuck: You guys think right after the R/S it's a good buy time?
It's the best time. But after a r/s the PPS usually goes down because bagholders ten to sell out. So might want to wait awhile. This was just a plot to raise money and it worked. Thank god I was not caught in it.
For someone not caught in it, you sure have spent a lot of time paying attention to it the past 24 hours. Nothing useful to do with your time?
Posted by HossTrader on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: Only reason why GRDX got volume yesterday was because of the news which was suppose to be released today. Being no news came out this morning the smart people sold out and took profit. Now everyone else is waiting for news to get out at .02+ Unless anymore sells come in I believe this is the support line for the stock above .01 MM's have to pretty much keep the pps up here since people dumped on them at .02 and below.
At least now I know why you have been hanging around. You have a grudge against FO2. Suddenly it makes sense. It is sad, but it makes sense.
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Ric: You just need to know how these shells work. When there is a reverse merger when a private company buys a shell and reverse merges into that company then they need to make their money back. So usually they dilute the shares soon after taking over to pay for the buyout and also to raise capital. Because why go public if not to raise capital.
Now when they finish diluting to pay for everything and make the money they need then they do a reverse split to where they want the stock to be and they are off and running. This is not something a few of these do. All of them do it. It would be stupid to give people (Shareholders) your company for nothing. The reason you go public is to raise capital. Just with these shell buyouts where the bypass the IPO process they not only need to raise capital but also pay off the debt of the buyout.
Thats why the hype is the play. The rest is risk because the only companies that go this route is small-caps that would have a hard time getting through the SEC - IPO process. So now all you can hope for after the r/s is if you hold long the company can make it without having to dilute even further. Thats why the beginning process should always be in and out until the dust settles.
Thank you RIC for that. Now the last sentence is that is important and everyone seems to be missing. That's why I tell them get in and get out. You see you are more knowledgeable then F02 who can not take the time to let his followers know a r/s will have to come to complete the shell. Instead he feeds them all the good things and doesn't tell them about what has to happen.
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by corndo: Ok. Maybe now we can get back to figuring out what is going on with this stock. They are having a name and sybolchange. They are also havong a R/S tomorrow. Yet, one thing remains: the assets. If there are less shares it could mean one of two things: (IMHO) 1) they are a paper stock making machine and are going into full gear for the next round tomorrow or 2) They are going to hold these shares closely so that the pps does actually go up into the crazy numbers realm.
Bet: they are going to hold thier share tight and not only will it be difficult to get in, it will be harder than geting into Goggle right now. (anyone have a spare $300.00 per share lying around?...yeeeeeaah, exactly) I think my lottery ticket just got a whole lot more interesting at COB today.
To bad 1) You are in red in the stock because of the pps it closed 2) They are doing a r/s which means your shares are worth even less 3) And you have to depend even more on the public to buy up this company ir order for you to break even...
Posted by HossTrader on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: ......... I am not in pre-k ........
Couldn't tell that from here. Please tell us again how wise and smart and right you were. We are all dying to hear it. I for one hope to be like you one day.
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: This is what a member of this site just pm'ed me ------------------------------------------------- hey cold...
yep totally believe it...
this is the third "pick" of that jackass's I have followed. First was ITGJ which has done NOTHING in the last month. Second was IWWD which r/s'd out of nowhere two days after he picked it and now GRDX.
Really GRDX was my fault I was up 240%+ and I got greedy. Now I know...
Currently I am down about 50% on GRDX I am guessing I should just preserve my capital, sell and move on.
Or perhaps I will just let what I have left ride and see what happens.
He always talks about "making money for everyone" I guess that's true if you aren't greedy like myself. I just don't have enough experience I guess... When people like FO2 or lil say they think it can go higher I guess I put too much faith in their assessment..
Well now I know...
Thanks for being the only realistic person on the board. We need more of those. ------------------------------------------------- Oh you guys can keep taking my stars away. I am not in pre-k where it matters how many I have. You are taking them away because I am talking about the times we are in and because all of "us" are still stock in the stock. Some of you like kywee have 15k dollars in a stock and some played it safe and only picked up a few shares.
DOH!
How easy is it to get one of your zombies to PM what you want, lol?
Or, for that matter, use of your million-alias-disguises to post to yourself...?
Anyway, as usual, you ignore *my* questions, nomi-ugly.
Posted by pensandoenti67 on :
Good luck to all no one is to blame here!!
Play/Buy at your own risk. No one should be trusted here. Some stocks are tru winners other just pump up and group plays. Whom to believe?
I started to do lots of my own DD and started my own rule, 100% profit then sell 50% of my shares, that breaks me even, then let the other 50% ride the rise, then I sell if I see it going down.
I'm careful with stocks where Members state they e-mail directly with the CEO or accountant, be careful, THIS PENNYLAND known for making some rich and others cry. Including myself, had good rides and bad ones. I would say the last two months I had a profit of 450%, but I went with my own gutt feeling and DD, not all my picks have been winners, but last two months have been steady and nice.
FYI I have not been in any of those one day miracles, all my profits have been on stocks based on news and charts.
Good luck to all no one is to blame here!!
I think you can see what I think will go up at least in the next 10 days, no one is saying they spoke with the CEO or a paid pumper....
check out AMNI for yourself.
Posted by buckstalker on :
That is VERY NOMI-UGLY Tex...
Posted by BuyTex on :
momo,
collecting your thoughts?
Sterno can burning your food?
Borrowed computer acting up?
C'mon, 'lex, 'splain to Lucy and the folks how a promo works...
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex:
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: This is what a member of this site just pm'ed me ------------------------------------------------- hey cold...
yep totally believe it...
this is the third "pick" of that jackass's I have followed. First was ITGJ which has done NOTHING in the last month. Second was IWWD which r/s'd out of nowhere two days after he picked it and now GRDX.
Really GRDX was my fault I was up 240%+ and I got greedy. Now I know...
Currently I am down about 50% on GRDX I am guessing I should just preserve my capital, sell and move on.
Or perhaps I will just let what I have left ride and see what happens.
He always talks about "making money for everyone" I guess that's true if you aren't greedy like myself. I just don't have enough experience I guess... When people like FO2 or lil say they think it can go higher I guess I put too much faith in their assessment..
Well now I know...
Thanks for being the only realistic person on the board. We need more of those. ------------------------------------------------- Oh you guys can keep taking my stars away. I am not in pre-k where it matters how many I have. You are taking them away because I am talking about the times we are in and because all of "us" are still stock in the stock. Some of you like kywee have 15k dollars in a stock and some played it safe and only picked up a few shares.
DOH!
How easy is it to get one of your zombies to PM what you want, lol?
Or, for that matter, use of your million-alias-disguises to post to yourself...?
Anyway, as usual, you ignore *my* questions, nomi-ugly.
Oh I will not ignore you Buytex. Being I am not nomi_ugly I have nothing to hide. It's very hard to prove what you said is either correct or incorrect but I will tell you one thing which i know to be a fact. Fatherof2 is a promoter/ paid pumper. You know it as well but him being your buddy and all you will not admit it. He will pay for all he has done to his folowers and hopefully you guys open your eyes and stop playing his plays. Appears he attracts new members all the time. It is nothing personal because I have never seen nor spoke to him but he pm'ed me and asked me to help him run ADDI which I guess is his new pump and dump. He almost always seems to disapper when ever a r/s happens or his stock get's halted by the SEC. My question is why BASH nemo when his stock did a r/s but not bash F02 when his plays are known to be r/s and SEC halt machines..
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: momo,
collecting your thoughts?
Sterno can burning your food?
Borrowed computer acting up?
C'mon, 'lex, 'splain to Lucy and the folks how a promo works...
You want me to explain it to you because you don't know how it works? Well here is how it works..
1) A CEO of a rep of a company would contact a company which could bring exposer to there company. 2) The CEO pays the promoter (pumper) based on the services he/she want's for his company. 3) Promoters get paid the most if they bring volume into the stock and my guess that is what FO2 is paid to do 4) Promoters get paid either in cash or shares which means they would have to sell the shares inorder to get paid (Do you see right there why promoters are bad) 5) Now to spot a promoter CEO has to give them shares which would inturn increase the o/s of the stock so it may be mistaken for diluation but it's really going to a person not a MM. 6) Now fatherof2 comes on here and say's I have a really good stock for you they are expected to make XYZ, chart looks good, low float blah blah what ever would attract investors. 7) Now the public comes in and buys and the CEO either sell's his shares to the public along with the promoter or the promoter sells his shares while the CEO waits for enough money to be in the stock for him to later r/s it. 8) So now all investors get screwed because they hold to long and daytraders run the pps up and dump at higer prices. Promoters make money and chances are will have another job when needed and everyone blames MM's and bashers for why the stock goes down..
The end
Posted by Rules on :
Is there any way to have this basher removed from the forum. I hate having to sift through crap in order to read the good stuff. Wash repeat rinse........Cold is here to help us lol. Doom and Gloom people........sell before you lose your soul. I kinda see FOT as the Priest and Cold as the Devil lol. Go away Satan.....this is a GRDX church.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Have your PM'ing bend over buddy PM me myself. If you are going to begin pointing fingers.....POINT THEM AT ME BIG BOY.... Got something to say..BRING IT ON!
Read the last few pages.....ALSO READ BACK WHEN THE STOCK WAS AT .004! That is when the R/S issue was posted! DAYS AGO!!!! THE PPS WENT UP AFTER THE R/S ISSUE WAS ADDRESSED! People bought in knowing the R/S was coming....IT WENT UP 250% AFTER THAT!
So......now perhaps thank, Stockgranny, Fire and FOT for their findings......IT WENT UP!!!!!!!250%
and Mr. PM'er! It "is" your fault for not getting out.....STOCKS DIP, I for one thought it would go back up after the Gap up......I was looking for .05.......Just like a lot of others......DIDN'T HAPPEN! Should have sold some at 240% is right.....I Did! Have more left for later as well!
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney:
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: momo,
collecting your thoughts?
Sterno can burning your food?
Borrowed computer acting up?
C'mon, 'lex, 'splain to Lucy and the folks how a promo works...
You want me to explain it to you because you don't know how it works? Well here is how it works..
1) A CEO of a rep of a company would contact a company which could bring exposer to there company. 2) The CEO pays the promoter (pumper) based on the services he/she want's for his company. 3) Promoters get paid the most if they bring volume into the stock and my guess that is what FO2 is paid to do 4) Promoters get paid either in cash or shares which means they would have to sell the shares inorder to get paid (Do you see right there why promoters are bad) 5) Now to spot a promoter CEO has to give them shares which would inturn increase the o/s of the stock so it may be mistaken for diluation but it's really going to a person not a MM. 6) Now fatherof2 comes on here and say's I have a really good stock for you they are expected to make XYZ, chart looks good, low float blah blah what ever would attract investors. 7) Now the public comes in and buys and the CEO either sell's his shares to the public along with the promoter or the promoter sells his shares while the CEO waits for enough money to be in the stock for him to later r/s it. 8) So now all investors get screwed because they hold to long and daytraders run the pps up and dump at higer prices. Promoters make money and chances are will have another job when needed and everyone blames MM's and bashers for why the stock goes down..
The end
Nemo? o my, you are skating close to the edge tonight, eh?
You're NOT nomi? oooo, geez, ....
What a dangerous web we weave, when first we practice to deceive...
Funny...you spell just like nomi, you sound just like momo, you ramble just like....YOU!
but OK...
Now, answer this: how long, typically, does it take for one of these "promo" plays to work out?
Please supply some examples...
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Sterno can burning your food?
That one's killin' me.....ROFLMAO!
Tex!
Posted by stockfever on :
Sh*t happens...move on. FOT is not to blame.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Check the date on this!
firefighterswct Member
Member Rated: posted September 20, 2005 19:20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- granny is right .... i was talking to the ceo mark and ricky earler today and over the past few days . i told fo2 earlyer this afternoon to just run the information by him befour i posted it here ... Thrusday the company is exspecting a call from the nasdaq... ( otcbb) to confirm the name change one the stock symble has been changed and the approval is granted they will announce a PR come thrusday within hours .. depending on the timeing the PR should be released thrusday or friday morning . At this time the company will announce the new symble of the stock they will also do a R/S now this R/S is not a bad reverse split this is to bring the pps up so that it gets more noticeable and in turn can go to a higher exchange nasdaq etc. This stock should do very good it will be basicly a shell getting filled with a 20-30 mill dollar company right now NITE is on the ask price and has some shares hes selling that he bought at .002 but i think once we get passed him this stock is going to explode!!! but we will see after talking to these ceo's i am very very confident in the company and the future pps of the company best of luck to everyone !!!
Now.....Mr. coldplay......
EVERYONE KNEW the R/S was coming. How can you sit there and say FOT knew this alone! It was posted DAYS AGO!
I'm gonna' go eat a cookie.....!
Posted by Bearclaw on :
Lil...Buy Tex...folks.. Welcome to Momoville...Momo is down to 14 in his group and 4 of them are moderators. He is here to stir the group up to recruit. His last play didn't have enough volume to move it...He needs volume to pull off his scams and that equals new folks.
He stirs this up and hopes everyone stays in the pissin contest and PM's folks inviting them to his pig hole web site.
His attack on FOT and other folks who associate with FOT is to try and cause a split so he can pick up folks...Remember...he needs volume...He has no one to unload his frontloaded shares on..
Pretty soon he won't have enough on his site to field a softball team. Just keep folks aware of Momo and his scam...try not to get sucked into his baiting you guys to keep the crisis going...Remember...you guys are honest and have integrity...You know he doesn't so he's pushing everyones buttons...This is one sick arsehole your arguing with...Just report him to Bob and he'll be gone for a while till he comes back with another alias...I'd get him out of here before the market opens tomorrow...He's recruiting...we have some new folks here...Calm down and let's get rid of this sick kid...
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
and for those who doubt about "US" calling companies...... If firefighterswct Did not call them.....I want to trade with him all of the time....He can predict R/S's.
Now back to eating my cookie!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
You're RIGHT Bear.... I'm gonna' ride this one and hit the next FOT pick...what was that again......LOL
Going to be interesting here tomorrow to say the least!
Posted by Tooka56 on :
No joke lil.
Posted by BuyTex on :
'claw, penny:
the wrinkle here is apparently he knows about promos--SUDDENLY. What does that does tell you?
Fireboy is right-hand messenger: remember when I tried to broker peace and give him a thread so we didn't have to go through all this wormification every 3-4 days? Fireboy was the messenger between nomi and me...he's a major supporter...
Although, even fireboy may be starting to have doubts...
Wheee,
let the good times roll...
Penny! cookie baked on sterno?
glta...
Posted by corndo on :
Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you, tomorrow...
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
LOL....half baked!
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: Lil...Buy Tex...folks.. Welcome to Momoville...Momo is down to 14 in his group and 4 of them are moderators. He is here to stir the group up to recruit. His last play didn't have enough volume to move it...He needs volume to pull off his scams and that equals new folks.
He stirs this up and hopes everyone stays in the pissin contest and PM's folks inviting them to his pig hole web site.
His attack on FOT and other folks who associate with FOT is to try and cause a split so he can pick up folks...Remember...he needs volume...He has no one to unload his frontloaded shares on..
Pretty soon he won't have enough on his site to field a softball team. Just keep folks aware of Momo and his scam...try not to get sucked into his baiting you guys to keep the crisis going...Remember...you guys are honest and have integrity...You know he doesn't so he's pushing everyones buttons...This is one sick arsehole your arguing with...Just report him to Bob and he'll be gone for a while till he comes back with another alias...I'd get him out of here before the market opens tomorrow...He's recruiting...we have some new folks here...Calm down and let's get rid of this sick kid...
lol teacher teacher Momo is back kick him out... CNES anyone? LMAO
Posted by Bearclaw on :
Funny sheet Buy...Sterno cookies...hahahaha..He must be looking for work...Promoter hahahahaha Like in Big time Wrestling...hahahaha
I know he's desperate for suckers...His time is limited...soon a non issue...His mods will be here through tomorrow trying to stir more sheet on this stock...then some peace and quiet...Have a great night...see you guys tomorrow..
Nighty night little mumu...get your blankey....need some place to put that thumb...pull it out your arse boy...
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: 'claw, penny:
the wrinkle here is apparently he knows about promos--SUDDENLY. What does that does tell you?
Fireboy is right-hand messenger: remember when I tried to broker peace and give him a thread so we didn't have to go through all this wormification every 3-4 days? Fireboy was the messenger between nomi and me...he's a major supporter...
Although, even fireboy may be starting to have doubts...
Wheee,
let the good times roll...
Penny! cookie baked on sterno?
glta...
Posted by Doctoall on :
Please keep the chat stock related and stay away from personal attacks.
Posted by BuyTex on :
Darth Goofus,
For someone who tracks my buys, I'm actually-factually *flabbergasted* you don't realize that I never posted I was in on this one.
lol, I missed a great run, though.
The reason I got interested lately is a friend asked my opinion...my opinion was to sell this morning, at the gap, and get back in if it still looked strong. Said trader made a nice 3-bagger...
Also, if you'll notice, ALEX, I also posted that I thought a good play might be to move to profits from this one to ADDI...
In short? When FoT makes a good pick, I acknowledge. When I disagree, I either post my objection or stay silent, realizing I have not DD's enough to warrant my opinion.
Have no idea what you're rambling about re KOP or noviccapital...
Please, enlighten us!
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: Please keep the chat stock related and stay away from personal attacks.
you do good work cleaning up threads...however, this may *not* be the best time to intervene, Doc, lol. This is board-wide and profoundly personal re scamsters vs newbies...
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I think this is truly the case of MY P E N I S is bigger than your P E N I S!
Please don't try and save the good people at Allstocks.... Take the one's that you have convienced and goooo....They'll be back, beaten and bruised. FACT IS......FOT'S pick did go up 250%. Lots of folks made money, making their own decisions with ALL OF THE FACTS DAYS EARLIER!
Do uh' you have a pick?
Oh wait.......Found this little GEM..lol You are in here stating that charts mean nothing yet you post this.....
Now as I and others have said. You have a personal issue with FOT......DEAL WITH IT OUTSIDE! You'll be gone soon!
One more thing....Did you think you'd gain support by using this?
Occupation: United States Coast Guard, Search and Rescue Operations
You are sick! What next? Changing of the Guard?
Posted by coldmoney on :
I am going to bed. It was nice chatting with you guys and I KNOW I won't be here in the morning because bearclaw is going to run to daddy and tell on me. LMAO Anyway good luck on the r/s and it's sad to see your thousands turn into dollars.....
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: LOL....half baked!
now...*that's* entertainment...
Penny, you come up with some good ones...
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Momo, You are a boy with a little knowledge of the market.....YOU KNOW....stocks go up and come down.....SOMEONE IS ALWAYS BUYING IN AT THE HIGH! IT HAS TO COME DOWN......you know what? even your picks have to...
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: I am going to bed. It was nice chatting with you guys and I KNOW I won't be here in the morning because bearclaw is going to run to daddy and tell on me. LMAO Anyway good luck on the r/s and it's sad to see your thousands turn into dollars.....
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: I am going to bed. It was nice chatting with you guys and I KNOW I won't be here in the morning because bearclaw is going to run to daddy and tell on me. LMAO Anyway good luck on the r/s and it's sad to see your thousands turn into dollars.....
Oh, hey.
You *could* be here in the morning...
I more or less let you alone for weeks, cuz so many were on to your scams. But now that you're so *obviously* in the promo ranks?
yup,
There are *many* others here who are onto you..But as far as anybody running to daddy?
not needed...
Your huckelberry, Tex
Posted by coldmoney on :
This is Fatherof2 pm'in me. I wonder why he would want my help on a play. Could be because he knew he would lose support because of the r/s of which he knew was coming. To bad I am not Momo so he ended up asking the wrong person for help. ------------------------------------------------- FatherOfTwo Member posted 21 September, 2005 18:40 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MoMo...
I know that if we worked together here, we could make some real killer coin. We need to not bash each other, but to get our plays going together... you have your members, and many here at allstocks follow my picks.
I am in ADDI and I like it from the charts and the low float... It can move big with a little buying pressure! Take a look and jump in if you want.
-------------------- Two wrongs don't make a right but 3 lefts do!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 2395 | From: Idaho | Registered: Nov 2004
coldmoney Member posted 21 September, 2005 19:55 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fatherof2. Have you seen the volume on this stock. For me to get into this stock would be murder. Chances are I will be giving money to someone holding then causing an uptick. How about we do a play from 0 volume or not that badly frontloaded?
-------------------- Support Search and Rescue. Get Lost.
FatherOfTwo Member posted 21 September, 2005 20:14 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am going to drop 1k into GRDX 1st thing and hope to get 50%+ ...
I think ADDI will go because the chart is looking good, and it has been shorted heavily (still on sho list)! It only has 8 million float with a product and news (recent and coming)! This is easier to convince people to buy into becuase it has potential.
GRDX was a zero volume stock and it took 2 weeks for it to get its steam.....and move well.
I can appreciate how you run your picks, but there are many that have been getting burned and are a little trigger shy to buy!. Some of my picks have flopped too, but with GRDX making some people some nice bank, they will be easier to convice to jump into a FO2 pick!
The market has stunk lately.... After I flip GRDX, I will drop it all into ADDI... if we could coordinate our buys and then get some others quickly, it would cause a nice volume spike and it should run. There are many people watching ADDI as I have been posting it for a good week now and they are waiting for the volume to pick up. With the sell off today, it should bounce up easily tomorrow thus setting off some alarms, and getting some attention.
-------------------- Two wrongs don't make a right but 3 lefts do!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 2395 | From: Idaho | Registered: Nov 2004
coldmoney Member posted 21 September, 2005 20:50 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- F02 we all know your stocks do well after it has a pullback once you call it. ATEG was planned. We have been sitting on that for months getting as many shares at .003-.005 as we could and you seen how high she went. People just don't have the stomach to wait for the PR to come out.
Thus they daytrade. Alot of the people got into GRDX at the same price the BID is now. I am afraid GRDX will gap and people will hit bid( those who got in under .008 and MM will only fill 10k shares each) Thus creating more bag holders at the top and them having to wait for another PR for the stock to move.
As far as ADDI goes if it's on the sho's list I don't believe people will touch it. People every were know what nakes shorting is and they will not for it no matter how good the PR is. Chart is a form of DD which attract new investors in and there are certain firms that will allow a stock to run to get attention of the public and once they get in they hammer it back down with tons of shares on the ask.
That is exactly what happened with GRDX the first time. You had insider selling which brought the PPS down so much even with all the buys you were able to bring it. You need ot branch off of allstocks and get more support in order to get this bid high enough on GRDX. Lucky you you are dealing with a low floater because if you weren't chances are public will not put orders into a stock whic hhas a 50% spread.
-------------------- Support Search and Rescue. Get Lost. Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Frontloaded to death and then posted..... At least FOT posts them at the bottom..... Who got stuck holding your bag on this one MOMO? Half your group? or all of it?
Posted by coldmoney on :
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex:
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: I am going to bed. It was nice chatting with you guys and I KNOW I won't be here in the morning because bearclaw is going to run to daddy and tell on me. LMAO Anyway good luck on the r/s and it's sad to see your thousands turn into dollars.....
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: I am going to bed. It was nice chatting with you guys and I KNOW I won't be here in the morning because bearclaw is going to run to daddy and tell on me. LMAO Anyway good luck on the r/s and it's sad to see your thousands turn into dollars.....
Oh, hey.
You *could* be here in the morning...
I more or less let you alone for weeks, cuz so many were on to your scams. But now that you're so *obviously* in the promo ranks?
yup,
There are *many* others here who are onto you..But as far as anybody running to daddy?
not needed...
Your huckelberry, Tex
Oh please your promo ranks. I am a regular investor like each one of you. I called one play and it didn't do well so that show you I am not good at it at all. All I was pointing out was FO2 is a promoter thats where he is getting all of these stocks from. You guys make a mountain out of a momo-hill. You guys have nothing better to do then lose money, follow a scum like F02, and bash momo who has is own sites and problems to deal with them to come on here and mess with you guys. I made my money and will lose my 500 bucks in this stock but it isn't anything compared to what I have made. So it shows the daytraders win while the investors ALWAYS lose. Have fun doing your DD while I jump in and out of stocks making money.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Still won't address it momo?
Do uh' you have a pick?
Oh wait.......Found this little GEM..lol You are in here stating that charts mean nothing yet you post this.....
Frontloaded to death and then posted..... At least FOT posts them at the bottom..... Who got stuck holding your bag on this one MOMO? Half your group? or all of it?
and your copy of PM....Nice, He told me he PM'd you wanting to work together and get along. And I'm sure you didn't change his words at all...... P E N I S issues!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Tex?! I thought you were my huckelberry?
Posted by BuyTex on :
lol, look back in-thread...he tried to get a group-grope going today...
Momo, I'm ashamed of you!
usually by now, you admit who you are...
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Tex?! I thought you were my huckelberry?
lol, you missed the movie reference...
Doc Holliday takes Wyatt's place against Ringo...
but, ya, never forget you helping me get started...you know that!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
LOL....I did miss it! I need another cookie. LOL
And a nap.....See ya'll tomorrow! Guess he's not going to address me....Guess he CAN'T!!!!!! I know you're not in this one Tex. Just watch, could be very interesting.
NITE!
Posted by coldmoney on :
USTYF was a play I liked because of the volume and the chart. And from the time i posted it it did go up to .05 and then dropped. But it didn't do a r/s... Ok i don't make good plays I admit it but I am not momo. I am just a ex-shareholder/ bagholder of this promo and wanted to let you guys know what FO2 is up to. OF course you will call me names but you still have a r/s to look up to tommorow. Have fun with that. I will be watching and laughing...
Posted by HossTrader on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: USTYF was a play I liked because of the volume and the chart. And from the time i posted it it did go up to .05 and then dropped. But it didn't do a r/s... Ok i don't make good plays I admit it but I am not momo. I am just a ex-shareholder/ bagholder of this promo and wanted to let you guys know what FO2 is up to. OF course you will call me names but you still have a r/s to look up to tommorow. Have fun with that. I will be watching and laughing...
How many times can you say you are done before you actually stop posting?
Posted by BuyTex on :
Hoss, in addition to the FUD factor, that's another typical trait...lol--at first it's supposed to evoke sympathy. By the time he gets banned, everybody's happy he's gone for the meanwhile.
Posted by futurama08 on :
So....that's awsome anyway i have >200k shares i left for the afternoon to come back to this. am i **** out luck here? im not sure, can i sell this stock at this point or what
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: This is Fatherof2 pm'in me. I wonder why he would want my help on a play. Could be because he knew he would lose support because of the r/s of which he knew was coming. To bad I am not Momo so he ended up asking the wrong person for help. ------------------------------------------------- FatherOfTwo Member posted 21 September, 2005 18:40 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MoMo...
I know that if we worked together here, we could make some real killer coin. We need to not bash each other, but to get our plays going together... you have your members, and many here at allstocks follow my picks.
I am in ADDI and I like it from the charts and the low float... It can move big with a little buying pressure! Take a look and jump in if you want.
-------------------- Two wrongs don't make a right but 3 lefts do!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 2395 | From: Idaho | Registered: Nov 2004
coldmoney Member posted 21 September, 2005 19:55 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fatherof2. Have you seen the volume on this stock. For me to get into this stock would be murder. Chances are I will be giving money to someone holding then causing an uptick. How about we do a play from 0 volume or not that badly frontloaded?
-------------------- Support Search and Rescue. Get Lost.
FatherOfTwo Member posted 21 September, 2005 20:14 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am going to drop 1k into GRDX 1st thing and hope to get 50%+ ...
I think ADDI will go because the chart is looking good, and it has been shorted heavily (still on sho list)! It only has 8 million float with a product and news (recent and coming)! This is easier to convince people to buy into becuase it has potential.
GRDX was a zero volume stock and it took 2 weeks for it to get its steam.....and move well.
I can appreciate how you run your picks, but there are many that have been getting burned and are a little trigger shy to buy!. Some of my picks have flopped too, but with GRDX making some people some nice bank, they will be easier to convice to jump into a FO2 pick!
The market has stunk lately.... After I flip GRDX, I will drop it all into ADDI... if we could coordinate our buys and then get some others quickly, it would cause a nice volume spike and it should run. There are many people watching ADDI as I have been posting it for a good week now and they are waiting for the volume to pick up. With the sell off today, it should bounce up easily tomorrow thus setting off some alarms, and getting some attention.
-------------------- Two wrongs don't make a right but 3 lefts do!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 2395 | From: Idaho | Registered: Nov 2004
coldmoney Member posted 21 September, 2005 20:50 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- F02 we all know your stocks do well after it has a pullback once you call it. ATEG was planned. We have been sitting on that for months getting as many shares at .003-.005 as we could and you seen how high she went. People just don't have the stomach to wait for the PR to come out.
Thus they daytrade. Alot of the people got into GRDX at the same price the BID is now. I am afraid GRDX will gap and people will hit bid( those who got in under .008 and MM will only fill 10k shares each) Thus creating more bag holders at the top and them having to wait for another PR for the stock to move.
As far as ADDI goes if it's on the sho's list I don't believe people will touch it. People every were know what nakes shorting is and they will not for it no matter how good the PR is. Chart is a form of DD which attract new investors in and there are certain firms that will allow a stock to run to get attention of the public and once they get in they hammer it back down with tons of shares on the ask.
That is exactly what happened with GRDX the first time. You had insider selling which brought the PPS down so much even with all the buys you were able to bring it. You need ot branch off of allstocks and get more support in order to get this bid high enough on GRDX. Lucky you you are dealing with a low floater because if you weren't chances are public will not put orders into a stock whic hhas a 50% spread.
-------------------- Support Search and Rescue. Get Lost.
FoT? any of this ring a bell?
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: USTYF was a play I liked because of the volume and the chart. And from the time i posted it it did go up to .05 and then dropped. But it didn't do a r/s... Ok i don't make good plays I admit it but I am not momo. I am just a ex-shareholder/ bagholder of this promo and wanted to let you guys know what FO2 is up to. OF course you will call me names but you still have a r/s to look up to tommorow. Have fun with that. I will be watching and laughing...
Alex, give it up...
Posted by prefect on :
Can we take the bickering to another thread?
This one is for GRDX.
Posted by futurama08 on :
So....that's awsome anyway i have >200k shares i left for the afternoon to come back to this. am i **** out luck here? im not sure, can i sell this stock at this point or what
Posted by BuyTex on :
of course you can sell.
It's neither halted nor suspended...
Was the r/s a surprise? Truly, I thought the r/s was part of the play....
Posted by futurama08 on :
yeah i know i can put a sell order in, but i don't feel like losing 2 grand. yeah the r/s wasnt a surprise but i thought it was a good r/s or whatever crap people were spewing. bah you let your guard down for 1 minute
anyway...at this point what can us shareholders look forward to (if anything)... should i just take hte loss or let the shares sit there and hope for the best?
Posted by BuyTex on :
futurama, this aint even my play--I was merely helping a pal who PM'd me, then momo got involved, and you know (or should if you read the board) how I am when scams get going.
I suggest looking up-thread to Ric's post about shell plays...he is one of the best traders on this entire board...
If you can't find it, PM me or post on thread...will monitor from time to time..
Posted by coolnwo on :
quote:Originally posted by coldmoney: This is Fatherof2 pm'in me. I wonder why he would want my help on a play. Could be because he knew he would lose support because of the r/s of which he knew was coming. To bad I am not Momo so he ended up asking the wrong person for help. ------------------------------------------------- FatherOfTwo Member posted 21 September, 2005 18:40 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MoMo...
I know that if we worked together here, we could make some real killer coin. We need to not bash each other, but to get our plays going together... you have your members, and many here at allstocks follow my picks.
I am in ADDI and I like it from the charts and the low float... It can move big with a little buying pressure! Take a look and jump in if you want.
-------------------- Two wrongs don't make a right but 3 lefts do!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 2395 | From: Idaho | Registered: Nov 2004
coldmoney Member posted 21 September, 2005 19:55 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fatherof2. Have you seen the volume on this stock. For me to get into this stock would be murder. Chances are I will be giving money to someone holding then causing an uptick. How about we do a play from 0 volume or not that badly frontloaded?
-------------------- Support Search and Rescue. Get Lost.
FatherOfTwo Member posted 21 September, 2005 20:14 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am going to drop 1k into GRDX 1st thing and hope to get 50%+ ...
I think ADDI will go because the chart is looking good, and it has been shorted heavily (still on sho list)! It only has 8 million float with a product and news (recent and coming)! This is easier to convince people to buy into becuase it has potential.
GRDX was a zero volume stock and it took 2 weeks for it to get its steam.....and move well.
I can appreciate how you run your picks, but there are many that have been getting burned and are a little trigger shy to buy!. Some of my picks have flopped too, but with GRDX making some people some nice bank, they will be easier to convice to jump into a FO2 pick!
The market has stunk lately.... After I flip GRDX, I will drop it all into ADDI... if we could coordinate our buys and then get some others quickly, it would cause a nice volume spike and it should run. There are many people watching ADDI as I have been posting it for a good week now and they are waiting for the volume to pick up. With the sell off today, it should bounce up easily tomorrow thus setting off some alarms, and getting some attention.
-------------------- Two wrongs don't make a right but 3 lefts do!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 2395 | From: Idaho | Registered: Nov 2004
coldmoney Member posted 21 September, 2005 20:50 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- F02 we all know your stocks do well after it has a pullback once you call it. ATEG was planned. We have been sitting on that for months getting as many shares at .003-.005 as we could and you seen how high she went. People just don't have the stomach to wait for the PR to come out.
Thus they daytrade. Alot of the people got into GRDX at the same price the BID is now. I am afraid GRDX will gap and people will hit bid( those who got in under .008 and MM will only fill 10k shares each) Thus creating more bag holders at the top and them having to wait for another PR for the stock to move.
As far as ADDI goes if it's on the sho's list I don't believe people will touch it. People every were know what nakes shorting is and they will not for it no matter how good the PR is. Chart is a form of DD which attract new investors in and there are certain firms that will allow a stock to run to get attention of the public and once they get in they hammer it back down with tons of shares on the ask.
That is exactly what happened with GRDX the first time. You had insider selling which brought the PPS down so much even with all the buys you were able to bring it. You need ot branch off of allstocks and get more support in order to get this bid high enough on GRDX. Lucky you you are dealing with a low floater because if you weren't chances are public will not put orders into a stock whic hhas a 50% spread.
-------------------- Support Search and Rescue. Get Lost.
WOW! Some of you guys need to open your eyes. Seems to me everyone got played and some are still going to be played going forward. Wow!!
Posted by futurama08 on :
So basically Buy Text, I am f**** ... sweet. Well time to move on IGTN go up damnit.
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Originally posted by futurama08: So basically Buy Text, I am f**** ... sweet. Well time to move on IGTN go up damnit.
NO! I *am* not saying that...
You are correct, in that I would *not* have played this for eventual "real hockey league," but you should exit only on your own DD. Some of these r/m plays go way up. I personally do *not* think this is one. BUT, I did not foresee the nice run, either. Once I saw the run, yeah, the drop was fairly predictable...doh, r/s coming...
make sense?
Posted by prefect on :
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: I personally do *not* think this is one.
Can I ask why you think this?
Posted by BuyTex on :
yes...I answer whenever I can...
for one, NHL is back. Make sense?
two? who on pennyboard is gonna play a $3.50 stock?
Am I correct? r/s price adjusted? If not, please re-post...
am i bashing?
No.
FoT and Lil have played *way* more moneymakers than I have...
I made good bank on PLNI, FoT's pick...
Lil has held my hand, while I was almost whining, on three or four day-runs...
lol, I got caught up in this trying to help out a friend...which worked. Friend made a nice three-bagger.
However, I do *not* back off my position that *sometimes* these r/m plays go ballistic...in this case? I don't see the mechanics...
But, hey, that's *me*
I think it was a good pick, and anybody interested should stay tuned...
If that doesn't answer your question, post another or feel free to PM...
Posted by prefect on :
what about this SPEA or whatever everyone is talking about?
Posted by billyboo on :
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: two? who on pennyboard is gonna play a $3.50 stock?
Tidbit of useless info:
There were 529 stocks $3.50 or higher that "actively" traded on Thursday (otcbb and pinks). 320 of those are $10+
I'm not trying to prove anything, just having a hard time sleeping.
Posted by coolnwo on :
Why is everyone trying to persuade each other this is a good thing?
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
WOW Tex, stayed up way too late on this one. LOL
And I'm *SURE* He didn't dr. up that PM at all. FOT told me he was going to PM him and try and make peace with him as it was not good to have this going on.....I agree. Now, I for one don't take this PM seriously, COPY, PASTE and CHANGE any words he wants.....and add a few of his own...
Let's all TRY and make some money here....
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: WOW Tex, stayed up way too late on this one. LOL
And I'm *SURE* He didn't dr. up that PM at all. FOT told me he was going to PM him and try and make peace with him as it was not good to have this going on.....I agree. Now, I for one don't take this PM seriously, COPY, PASTE and CHANGE any words he wants.....and add a few of his own...
Let's all TRY and make some money here....
Amen
Posted by Virgil on :
I am showing that shares have been or will be converted to WHKY at a 1:10 ratio.
Posted by Jerm on :
Not sure if this is accurate but my Scottrade account shows my 150,000 shares are now 127900 shares... we'll see.
Posted by Jerm on :
Whoops... looking at the wrong column... ignore last message... too early! Sorry
Posted by one2watchny on :
pretty big spread LOL .40/10.25
Posted by kywee on :
ha...well i did go out like i said, i guess cold didnt. i didnt even read that compost pile of **** for 4 pages. i just scrolled along.
i got a giggle again when you mentioned my 15k in this stock, what a joker.
i am surprised at the fot pms, that is how he talks, i dont see how someone can copy it that good, but hey...its our decision what we do.
now...how is this working. the only thing i see in my account is shares for GRDX#, i have no idea whats going on...enlighten me please
Posted by kywee on :
has the split occured...am i the only one not having shares from whky?
Posted by prefect on :
I have the same thing...GRDX#
Posted by kywee on :
i love it how no one is saying anything now
Posted by Tooka56 on :
My shares won't trade. I have (*WHKY*)
Posted by HossTrader on :
My shares show up as whky Don't forget we should be getting a share dividend in the new Marina company as well.
Posted by kywee on :
really, are they just in your account? i just have grdx#, not whky
Posted by Ross on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee: has the split occured...am i the only one not having shares from whky?
I called my brokerage, they said the split occured 1-1000 (R/S) and that will show up on my account during the nightly process and in the meanwhile if i wanted to trade, they will place a trade for me but i have to call....
Posted by ya ya on :
Of course no one is talking - The pumpers have been defeated - They will move on to the next stock.
Posted by HossTrader on :
My shares show up as whky, and the split is evident. I can't get a quote on whky though.
Posted by prefect on :
Are we going to get a pr from these crooks explaining the situation or are we just going to be left in the dark???
Posted by acharm on :
I only show GRDX...
Posted by realityinc21 on :
I sold most of my shares (177,000) bought at an average of .0045 at .018 yesterday a.m. Nice profit. Thanks for the heads up..Held 23,000 because I forgot to put in an all or non order.
So not I am the proud owner of 26 shares of WHKY. Ameritrade is not recognizing the new symbol. So I can not put in a sell order.. Is anyone else having this problem?? thanks
Posted by kywee on :
you using scottrade ross? im guessing thats what i have to do too, but we cant even trade grdx, so i guess ill let it sit there
Posted by realityinc21 on :
Quote at 3.00 bid at .45/ ask at 10.25--no activity.
Posted by Ross on :
i use Etrade Kywee......
Posted by Prdponce on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee: you using scottrade ross? im guessing thats what i have to do too, but we cant even trade grdx, so i guess ill let it sit there
some of the brokers take a little bit longer than others to post the change of symbols to your account. Some will post them by mid day others tomorrow. GLTA
Posted by prefect on :
quote:Originally posted by realityinc21: Quote at 3.00 bid at .45/ ask at 10.25--no activity.
Not surprised, no one can trade right?
Posted by kywee on :
ive lost a lot of trust this morning
Posted by futurama08 on :
Thats my etrade account. Not sure what to do
Posted by Ric on :
You will have to either call your broker to trade costing more in broker fees. Or you will have to wait for your broker to settle your account with the new symbol. And when that happens is up to your broker, hopefully by noon but more then likely after midnight tonight.
The good thing is, everyones in the same boat. So its not like people are selling off shares while you watch.
Posted by futurama08 on :
Thanks, regardless it seems these shares are worthless. Just want to clarify: I made a mistake myself and now I'm just looking for advice. I left for the afternoon I didn't expect the R/S to hit Thur Afternoon and I didn't think it would have such a negative impact. Anyway I was way up like everyone else but whatever at this point I am just trying to move on as best as possible
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I can't even get a L2 on it. I want a PR on what is going on as well.
Posted by Bearclaw on :
WHKY L2's right now:
Bid: 1 @ $2.00
Ask: 1 @ $10.25
Posted by futurama08 on :
Bear: Where are you getting L2's? Microcap is telling me invalid symbol. Has there been any volume?
Posted by prefect on :
What about this:
"and will provide Grand Lux, Inc. shareholder a one (1) share dividend of Marinas International Inc., for every ten (10) shares of GRDX."
Is that still happening?
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Yess futurama, Don't think any of us expected to be This RED!!!!!! I think we all expected it to be much better than this.
Posted by prefect on :
quote:Originally posted by futurama08: Bear: Where are you getting L2's? Microcap is telling me invalid symbol. Has there been any volume?
My "Scottrader" has the bid and ask listed, no volume.
Can't get anything on microcap.
Posted by Bearclaw on :
alphatrade...
quote:Originally posted by futurama08: Bear: Where are you getting L2's? Microcap is telling me invalid symbol. Has there been any volume?
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Got the l2's now.. SICK!!!!!!
Posted by futurama08 on :
Now IGTN just has to hit $5/share and I'll forget all about GRDX Posted by Chas35 on :
I'm not getting any info on either symbol through choice trade either...not too worried i'm sure they'll sort it all out sometime today
Posted by futurama08 on :
For those w/ L2's can you post current price, bid/ask and whether there has been any volume at all?
Posted by Bearclaw on :
Alphatrade gives a 5 day free trial if you want to sign up and follow this the next few days...
Just make sure you cancel before the 5 days or they will charge your credit card...
Posted by realityinc21 on :
I am on the line with ameritrade now. They are correcting the symbol and it should be ready so that we can put in Buy/Sell orders in here shortly on the computer.
I put in a manual sell order with ameritrade by phone. They also gave me 20 free trades due the the site being down last week and this week. 10 trades for each down time.
The stock is currently available to trade. FYI
Posted by billyboo on :
WHKY is listed on the pink sheets. It was earlier mentioned they were to move to the otcbb.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
1x2.00 1x.45 1x.40
1x10.25 1x14.00 1x15.00
Posted by futurama08 on :
Thanks, I got the 7 day free trial. I'll cancel it by next week. 0 volume..awsome. I see as soon as we do have volume it's going to tank to 0.000/share
Posted by kywee on :
damn allstocks was down for like an hour
there are so many stocks flying today, not this one!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I know. Didn't know what to do with myself for an hour.
Posted by kywee on :
yea i know...i wonder if everyone had the same problem, no one is complaining, but then there were no post since 10:30
Posted by Bearclaw on :
Should start a new thread..."What to do with myself when AS is down"!!!
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: I know. Didn't know what to do with myself for an hour.
Posted by jordanreed on :
i blame myself. i am disheartened,disillusioned,dissatisfied,disgraced,distressed,disturbed,distrusting,distracted,disrobed,and just downright pissed!........ i feel better now
Posted by jordanreed on :
this is now WHKY, right? it just went down a dollar
Posted by Bearclaw on :
First trade on WHKY is 825 shares at $2.00
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: i blame myself. i am disheartened,disillusioned,dissatisfied,disgraced,distressed,disturbed,distrusting,distracted,disrobed,and just downright pissed!........ i feel better now
Posted by Ric on :
Seen the first sell on the streamer for $2.00, 825 Shares. Yikes.
Posted by HossTrader on :
Yeah it is at $2 on a volume of 825 shares and it is on the BB exchange.
Posted by kywee on :
well theres no pr and everyone who was pumping this is gone haha
Posted by Ric on :
Huh??? BB exchange?
Posted by HossTrader on :
Nah, I was one of the ones "pumping" it. Still holding and hoping for the best at this point.
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Yahoo showing it on the pink sheets.
Posted by HossTrader on :
quote:Originally posted by Ric: Huh??? BB exchange?
That was what my ameritrade account showed as the exchange otcbb. of course my other ameritrade account hasn't even adjusted for the split yet.
Posted by HossTrader on :
Extended Quote (Real-Time) Option Chain • Help
(WHKY)
Bid Ask Last 2 Open 2 Close Change 0 High 2 Low 2 % Change Volume 825 Last Size 800 B/A Size 0X0 Last Trade Asset Type Equity P/E 0.00 52 Wk. High 2.00 52 Wk. Low 2.00 Quote Type Real-Time Exchange OTCBB
Dividends
Amount 0.00 Yield 0.00 Ex-Div Date
Quote as of: Fri Sep 23 2005 12:12:50 PM EDT
Posted by kywee on :
on bigcharts.com if you type in whky they have grdx's info from yesterday
Posted by futurama08 on :
I don't understand how all systems do not update at once or why there is such a massive delay in updates--anyone?
Posted by Chas35 on :
choicetrade hasn't changed it yet either..still has grdx at 003...but hey $5 trades lol
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: Nah, I was one of the ones "pumping" it. Still holding and hoping for the best at this point.
Me to Hoss!
Posted by Bearclaw on :
So the last trade from yesterday at .003 makes the 1000/1 RS put a value now at $3.00 per share...???
The bid now is $2.00 and the Ask is $7.00.
quote:Originally posted by Chas35: choicetrade hasn't changed it yet either..still has grdx at 003...but hey $5 trades lol
Posted by kywee on :
this is my account
Symbol Qty Price Mkt Value
GRDX# 83333 416.67 416.67
Posted by futurama08 on :
Bear; imagine if it closed at .10 like we all imagined... or even if it closed at 0.02 LOL!
Posted by Bearclaw on :
Futurama... I'm not in this...but...am pulling for folks and hope this works out...too many good folks involved here...but ya...I can imagine...
quote:Originally posted by futurama08: Bear; imagine if it closed at .10 like we all imagined... or even if it closed at 0.02 LOL!
Posted by futurama08 on :
Thanks! Yeah I'm in knee deep...oh well hopefully i'll see big green elsewhere
Posted by prefect on :
microcap finally has info for WHKY.
Still wondering about this great pr...Fire, any thoughts?
Posted by prefect on :
did this SPEA I hear about do the same thing? R/S when its shell filled?
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
I think SPEA went from OTCBB to nasdaq after r/s where stock amounts tend to be higher. Dunno what its going to do on the OTCBB at this point.
I'm not sure...does anyone know? Was there not also significant news at the same time as the move SPEA had?
quote:Originally posted by stickfigurefred: I think SPEA went from OTCBB to nasdaq after r/s where stock amounts tend to be higher. Dunno what its going to do on the OTCBB at this point.
Well my opinion is turning cynical at this point. Luckily I didn't lose any on this one, just broke even. Still holding a fair amount though.
Just remember not to trust anyone on here as far as rumors, potential, etc. I will always give folks the benefit of the doubt (at least in public LOL) but not when it comes to where I should put my money.
Posted by Tooka56 on :
Ok guys, here is my personal update for whatever it's worth. I just spoke on the phone with the President of the WHA and he told me that they had planned on the R/s the whole time AND that there WOULD BE DILUTION "it's just what has to happen" were his words. I am officially out at $2/share which I broker placed through ameritrade. There is a solid bid at $2.00 to cash out at since I dunped 825 on the bid. Additionally, he was so lofty about the PR: he has no timeline for a PR and said that a PR would probably be a good idea right now! Duh. They don't have an investors relation firm hired yet, but he thinks he might find someone this weekend to do it. He just keeps stringing us out...I hope things work out for you guys, but I'm out and this is my last play on the pinks. I am moving back to the big boards so I can sleep at night-lol, I think I'll rebound play Oracle or something today, they're down big. Stay warm and well guys, I'll check in from time to time.
Posted by futurama08 on :
Thanks, I am on the phone w/ E*Trade now selling @2.
Posted by buckstalker on :
Well well...a good lesson to be learned here... I have been here a long time, and have only trusted a few...but after watching this fiasco....I TRUST NO ONE!!! BTW I am not in this, but I feel for those who were duped...
Posted by Ric on :
Spea was a total different animal. They bought the Elvis estate or something like that. But It was Elvis that moved that stock.
But also this is still a pinkheet no matter what. It was a pinksheet before hand and there is no filings with the SEC to change that. They would have to file financials then go through a approval process. It doesn't just happen.
Posted by kywee on :
so fire was lying about talking to the guy about news...who else was also...haha people are so greedy
Posted by Bearclaw on :
Plus CNBC had a segement on air at the same time that drew a ton of outside interest. Man that was a fun stock to play...wish I did!!!
quote:Originally posted by Ric: Spea was a total different animal. They bought the Elvis estate or something like that. But It was Elvis that moved that stock.
But also this is still a pinkheet no matter what. It was a pinksheet before hand and there is no filings with the SEC to change that. They would have to file financials then go through a approval process. It doesn't juan cappen.
Posted by HossTrader on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee: so fire was lying about talking to the guy about news...who else was also...haha people are so greedy
I don't know. But conveniently his last post was yesterday about 15 minutes after the market opened!
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Yep a bunch of b$%s4it artists here Glad I didn't have that much invested in this one. Get in and get out, thats all I can say.
Posted by prefect on :
Yep huge lesson learned.
I think I am just going to forget about his one, I am in so much it is pointless to sell at $2.00. Maybe in a few years I will look at it an be surprised...unfortunately it sounds like these WHA clowns are just as crooked as a few of the board members.
Time to pick up the pieces and move on.
Posted by jordanreed on :
ive learned to only play these pennies for no more than a day. thats it!. a few min.,or hours, but never hold over night. take your profit,no matter how small, and get the hell out!i tend to get sucked into the hype and hold too long,until the inevitable happens and I'm stuck for a loss. this is a classic example. these pennies are here for a daytrade only! i keep telling myself that over and over, but i cant seem to stick with that principle. DAMN!
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Yep and follow the 7% rule, get in and get out no matter what.
Posted by jordanreed on :
exactly. i guess I'm not the only idiot here. how many got stuck in this POS because of all the cheerleading?
Posted by jordanreed on :
like i said earlier.. i blame myself and no one else.
Posted by Marty on :
Then I get in, and get out. The Dog has posted tons of info to successfully play pennies with the right tools. It works. GLTA
Posted by kywee on :
u know we got ****ed when all of the wise older members come in here...
Posted by SeattleWriter3d on :
I myself am a swing trader and I got out yesterday because my own personal experience is I get KILLED in R/S so when it went up yesterday morning I sold 3/4's of my position and held a small portion just in case it did do what others thought. I have just been burned too many times on R/S to have taken a chance so I guess I am one of the lucky ones as I got in at .003 and out over .02, just a small position but profit is profit
Posted by firefighterswct on :
First off i was not lying about the news kywee i swear that is what mark told me !! how else would i have know about the RS and the time table of everything with out talking to the ceo .. i lost a crap load of money on this as well probably more then anyone else here i asked fot and told him about the RS amd i was concerned about it but he explained to me that it was a good RS and i had nothing to worry about , i was wrong .. But i was not lying .. i talked to the ceo and he said there would be news and he lyed look at ICMH how many times have people called him and he said o yeah a pr is comming and comming and comming and it took for ever to come .. im not happy with this stock and im not happy with losing money but theres nothing i can do as of right now so ill have to deal with it and i hope everyone else can move on and make bank on another stock i still own over 300k in shares and ill hold them for the future of the wha !!
Posted by kywee on :
sorry for saying that fire, but so many people pumped this its not funny. i take it as a lesson learned and it put a lot of new faces on people for me
Posted by billyboo on :
Hey fire, with all your talks with Mark, did you ever talk about the upcoming season this fall (is it still a go?), the tryouts, the Forida division franchises, etc.? Are they not filling this shell with assets still?
Posted by The Nice Guy on :
Where is your teacher guys??
Posted by HossTrader on :
quote:Originally posted by Youve_been_punk'ed: Youve_been_punk'ed says "He who put's all his trust in a stranger shall be repaid with the worst gift a stranger should be given. The gift of dishonesty"
Hello member's of allstocks
*Call (647)-880-4855 ask for Ricky. *He own's the company that r/s you. *Ask him his future plans for the stock not the company *He will be in Florida this weekend for tryouts *He clearly said he hired a promoter to raise money for the company and the r/s was the way to cash out. *Who promoted this stock? *Appears all the volume only came from this site. *CEO has no intentions of going to BB
I don't know about the other points, but Ameritrade shows this stock on OTCBB as of today.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
I must stand up for fire here as well as myself. How the heck would he know a R/S was coming if the did not speak with him. I have my sell in now and got As F***ed as you all did on this one. So don't go bit**en bout' all of the cheerleading when you all were doing it all along with us. We all had higher hopes for this. Just gonna' catch some runners to get it back.
Good day all!
Posted by kywee on :
it does say otcbb
Posted by HossTrader on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee: it does say otcbb
Kind of makes you not believe he talked to the ceo doesn't it? LOL
Posted by kywee on :
who?
Posted by HossTrader on :
The Youve_been_punked/coldmoney character on the vendetta.
Posted by kywee on :
he has 2 post and he says he knows it all...let him go
Posted by Ric on :
But everyone else says its still pinksheet and since they have not filed with the SEC then they can't be OTCBB. You must file a financial with the SEC and a form 15 to become reporting. Once you become reporting then you can file with Nasdaq to be placed on the OTCBB. None of this has happened period.
Posted by Rules on :
Well I have $83 riding on this stock Guess I have really nothing to lose other than to sit on it and see what happens.
Posted by HossTrader on :
quote:Originally posted by Youve_been_punk'ed:
quote:Originally posted by Ric: But everyone else says its still pinksheet and since they have not filed with the SEC then they can't be OTCBB. You must file a financial with the SEC and a form 15 to become reporting. Once you become reporting then you can file with Nasdaq to be placed on the OTCBB. None of this has happened period.
Hello allstock members * Ric people believe what they want. * He believe they are BB nothing you will say to him will change his mind * People do not understand things have to be done a certain way for a process as a move from pink to bb to take place. * Could be a lack of inexperience..
All right numnuts. I didn't say I believed anything. I told you what shows up on my quote on Ameritrade. No offense, but I trust them more than you. It probably is a mistake on their part, but don't be offended if I don't take your word for it.
by the way, a lack of inexperience would make me experienced. Posted by HossTrader on :
I love it when people come on these boards harping on how you shouldn't trust people on the boards, but then get their panties wadded if you don't trust them. LOL
I am not a pumper. I was damned excited yesterday and have been in a crappy mood since it tanked. But I don't believe for a minute you are posting to be noble and help people out in any way. I think Tex was probably right, you are probably recruiting.
Posted by Jerm on :
Ok, here is what I want to know... are they or are they not giving out the Marinas International stock? If not, then the below PR was a lie, correct? Then why is this not illegal?
Grand Lux, Inc. Signs Letter of Intent to Purchase World Hockey Association Corporation ORLANDO, FL -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 07/18/2005 -- Grand Lux Inc. (OTC: GRDX), today announced that it has signed an letter of intent (LOI) with World Hockey Association Corporation to purchase the company for stock. Upon completion, the present board of directors of Grand Lux, Inc. will resign and be replaced by the directors of World Hockey Association, which includes among others R. (Butch) Goring and Robert Marvin Hull. Grand Lux, Inc. will be spinning out all current assets into Marinas International Inc. and will provide Grand Lux, Inc. shareholder a one (1) share dividend of Marinas International Inc., for every ten (10) shares of GRDX. The Marinas International Inc. new symbol and dates will be announced in the near future as they become available.
Posted by HossTrader on :
At this point Jerm, who knows? I sure hope so but with no pr I wouldn't base any decisions on it.
Posted by Jerm on :
lol... decisions? My only decision is to wait and see what happens... at the moment I consider this all lost and just hope something better happens. However, if that PR was simply put out as a lie inorder to get my cash... then I consider that pure theft. Otherwise, I'm just purely pissed at myself though I think in the long run I will be thankful for this expensive lesson.
Posted by duediligence1 on :
This is a pinksheet, what do you expect. Companies are pinksheets for a reason and companies buy shell pinksheets for a reason. One of which is they don't have to tell you nothing, or little of nothing. And this is a pinsheet no matter what anyone tells you. People warned people they needed to get out before the r/s and no one wanted to listen. All they did was call them bashers. But you want to see how fast a pinksheet that just r/s'd will fall then hold long on this one.
Posted by will on :
I am wondering what expensive lesson was learned?
Posted by DQ. on :
I bought 900 dollars worth. Looks like it is now worth 180 bucks...Why sell now. I'll wait and see how it goes. If I'm down that much in one day...what's another 180 bucks... As my tag line says...we'll make more tomorrow. Live and Learn I guess.
Posted by Jerm on :
Don't give me that pinksheet crap... I am perfectly aware of the risk involved and I was perfectly aware that this was a "lotto" play... however, when a company, pinksheet or not, puts out a PR that is a pure lie to get one's money, then I consider that not only unethical but it is probably actionable.
Posted by Bearclaw on :
Looks like Momo is back to irritate you folks...Your like a locust Momo...sick puppy getting your rocks off at folks losing money...arse...
Posted by rfggator on :
Tryouts in the United States... Venue: Tampa Bay Skating Academy Tampa, Florida Date/Time: Sun., September 25 - 1 p.m. until 3 p.m.
ok guys and gals, if there giving out free jersey's, i am going to collect mine, i have a few hockey pucks, for him. (the sun might shine on his a.. see you sunday RICK FMIPH i quess, we live and learn
Posted by Upside on :
quote:Originally posted by will: I am wondering what expensive lesson was learned?
Probably the same one you and I learned a long time ago.
Posted by Ric on :
quote:Originally posted by Jerm: Don't give me that pinksheet crap... I am perfectly aware of the risk involved and I was perfectly aware that this was a "lotto" play... however, when a company, pinksheet or not, puts out a PR that is a pure lie to get one's money, then I consider that not only unethical but it is probably actionable.
Shoot thats what ICAN did. They promised that there assets were being moved to a OTCBB and all ICAN holders would get divy's in it. And after the pump and dump they said opps. I think at this time we would be better off just staying the way we are. Do you really think that wasn't planned? And who is going to do anything about it? Because all they have to say is we really intended to do it but we as a small pinksheet just wasn't able to get the resources up to do it.
This is way to common and way wrong but what can you do about it except quit buying into there lies.
Posted by Prdponce on :
quote:Originally posted by Upside:
quote:Originally posted by will: I am wondering what expensive lesson was learned?
Probably the same one you and I learned a long time ago.
I know .. I know... Can I answer it? LOL
Posted by Ric on :
quote:Originally posted by Prdponce:
quote:Originally posted by Upside:
quote:Originally posted by will: I am wondering what expensive lesson was learned?
Probably the same one you and I learned a long time ago.
I know .. I know... Can I answer it? LOL
LOL
Posted by Upside on :
quote:Originally posted by Prdponce:
quote:Originally posted by Upside:
quote:Originally posted by will: I am wondering what expensive lesson was learned?
Probably the same one you and I learned a long time ago.
I know .. I know... Can I answer it? LOL
Only if you want your good name dragged through the mud again! Posted by Jerm on :
Ric, you are, of course, correct... but it still pisses me off when its pure theft! All I can do now is hope that the WHA fails miserably.
Like I said... I paid for some good lessons here... now I'm going to put them to good use.
Posted by rfggator on :
what ever, i would rather have my a.. kicked for my losses, nothing has been filed w/ sec, they shall lay in the bed they make. and who is bret hall?(like i care) to things you dont mess with, a mans money, and his dog....wife is ok, (you can have her) ok boys and girls, for real, what are we doing with this mon am...all have a good weekend
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by You've_been_punk'ed:
quote:Originally posted by rfggator: And who is bret hall?(like i care)
Hello allstock members * He is former NHL player who is getting paid by the r/s * He will be with the CEO on sunday as a bodyguard( j/k) * Turns out he is the chairman of the league.
I'm gonna' find a good runner!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Just switched from caviar to Hummus....LOL
Trying to make fun of myself. Sorry all.....Gotta' move on....I'm going to dig up a runner for monday or....just wait for the news to spark one.
Try and have a good weekend all!
Posted by Jerm on :
rfggator, maybe a better approach would be to contact the local media down there... let them ask this guy some interesting questions while they are covering this local event... have them ask him if this is how he will be treating future investors and fans. :-)
Posted by kywee on :
Hello allstock members
WOW...
Posted by rfggator on :
rfggator, maybe a better approach would be to contact the local media down there... let them ask this guy some interesting questions while they are covering this local event... have them ask him if this is how he will be treating future investors and fans. :-)
i sent emails to the news desk at bay news 9, and the stpete times, lets see what happens
Posted by Jerm on :
rfggator,
Doubt much will come of it but who knows!
Let's start WHA off with a bang!
Posted by billyboo on :
quote:Originally posted by You've_been_punk'ed:
quote:Originally posted by rfggator: And who is bret hall?(like i care)
Hello allstock members * He is former NHL player who is getting paid by the r/s * He will be with the CEO on sunday as a bodyguard( j/k) * Turns out he is the chairman of the league.
It's Bobby Hull, not Brett Hall. Brett Hull is Bobby's son, playing for Phoenix in the NHL.
Posted by The Nice Guy on :
Lilpenny
I like your attitude. Despite the bitterness of this exerience, yet you stand in complete sanity with flavored humor.
I liked the portion of switching from caviar to Hummus. Reality is hummus is much healthier for you than caviar because it has lot of protien and fiber (from the garbanzo beans) then when they add the sesami paste and youghurt, you get the ultimate in Arab appetizers.
Sorry just feeling bored waiting for the clock to mark 5 Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
I know I deserve a huge tongue lashing from everyone here that lost money! FYI.. I lost money too! I will accept whatever punishment you all dish out, and I will stand up and accept it, because I am responsible for bringing this pick to the board! I will not hold any ill will toward anyone that dishes it out to me!
It is funny how when a stock is going up though, the compliments are free flowing, and as soon as the thing goes down, the person directly involved in finding the pick is a snake or whatever I have been called.....
All I can ask is that you all accept my apology for loosing some $$$ here! I am truly sorry!
As far as MoMo labeling me a "Stock Promoter who dumps on all the members here", that is simply not true! A few here that have known me for a while can attest to my honesty and integrity. Many times, I post the exact number of shares that I purchase and the time and price, so you know I am buying into the stock.
Like everyone else, I look to gain valuable information about a stock by not only searching on line, but also by calling the IR people and CEO's if I can get them! Every PR that comes out has a persons name and phone number....... CALL THEM YOURSELVES! Verify what it is that I find out and post here for everyone to read! You will see that I report exactly what I am told!
Anyway... again, I ask everyone to accept my apologies.
Jeff
Posted by The Nice Guy on :
poor jeffy
No one would leave him alone. I never forget your WDAM that caused me great greif. But It was my own mistake despite the fact that I am an accountant and can understand financial issues - Not penny stocks.
Don't be too hard on yourself FOT. Its enough that you come and appologize. I admire that in people.
Posted by Marty on :
Interesting statements there 'punk'. It's always easy to summarize the situation, after the facts. The folks that got burned here, 1) held too long 2) stayed in for an 'uptrend' 3) then got burnt on the r/s Game over.
They should have, 1) Played the 'play' 2) if it didn't move, gotten out with minimal loss 3) then moved on
5%+ is GREAT on ANY penny play....plain and simple.
If Harrah's sends you an email, that 1 in 10 players will win BIG at their slots, and you go there, play them, and lose, is it THEIR FAULT? NOT!!!!!!!!!!!
FOT, LIL and anyone else who was 'cheerleading' this stock, had great DD to support it. All indicators showed a 'potential' uptrend. They, have had GOOD picks in the past. Unfortunately, THE COMPANY is a POS, by pulling the R/S....
I hope everyone has learned, to do your own DD, when you play, GET OUT ASAP even with a 5% gain or even a small loss! The longer you stay in to a downward spiral, the greater the loss. Lick your wounds and move on... JMHO....GLTA....
quote:Originally posted by You've_been_punk'ed: Hell allstock members
* Stop looking foward to a bright future * This stock can release great PR's but no one will buy a 10.00 otc stock * Maybe a few people will but the shares you get won't even put a dent in the o/s... * Can't wait for this promoter to come back on this site.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by The Nice Guy: Lilpenny
I like your attitude. Despite the bitterness of this exerience, yet you stand in complete sanity with flavored humor.
I liked the portion of switching from caviar to Hummus. Reality is hummus is much healthier for you than caviar because it has lot of protien and fiber (from the garbanzo beans) then when they add the sesami paste and youghurt, you get the ultimate in Arab appetizers.
Sorry just feeling bored waiting for the clock to mark 5
It was actually delicious.
Posted by The Nice Guy on :
I dated a 102LB Lebanese Chick. I used to make it from scratch for her. She loved it, and loved me, for awhile till she wanted some Souther food Posted by Mini Me on :
quote:Originally posted by prefect: what about this SPEA or whatever everyone is talking about?
When someone mentions SPEA,their word usually means very little.
Posted by will on :
I am wondering if any of the relatively new traders that failed to sell at .015 -.019 range, and were convinced this would see .10 and held it can tell me what happened. Review in your minds what caused you 1. to buy? 2. to ignore profit and hold after a 50% or 100% gain? 3. to at least not put yourself in a protected situation where you could have sold a portion of your position and had free shares thus protecting your intital investment? What happened to your thought process that made you ignore these now obvious safeguards? ...and finally? how many of you will do it all over again? It took me about three good ass whippings to understand what really went on when the numbing pain stopped. Perhaps this is the first thumping for some of you, perhaps you have bumps and bruises from former touted plays, but eventually you will find what works for you. Unfortunately it appears a few got caught for some substantial $ here.
Posted by corndo on :
Will, Sure, I'll share...
-I thought: Hockey? Heck everyone like hockey. -I bought shares -I heard about the r/s -I DIDN'T THINK WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AFTER THE R/S -I held on despite seeing the 200% increase -I'm taking my thumping w/out blaming anyone (r/s...duh 1/1000...duh up 200%+...duh)
- thump thump thump
Posted by Jerm on :
FO2 (Jeff),
This is what I was hoping to hear from you! Thanks! I was hoping you'd come back and say something. Take a big man to do so.
I personally believe that you are an honest guy who is working hard to make some money and helping others to do so as well... I will follow you any day before I follow the jerk... A.K.A. Momo.
Lil, great humor... keep it up.
Momo... go see someone about your issues.
Posted by corndo on :
quote:Originally posted by corndo: Will, Sure, I'll share...
-I thought: Hockey? Heck everyone likes hockey. -I bought shares -I heard about the r/s -I DIDN'T THINK WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AFTER THE R/S -I held on despite seeing the 200%+ increase -I'm taking my thumping w/out blaming anyone (r/s...duh 1/1000...duh up 200%+...duh)
- thump thump thump
Greed. Basic greed in it's rawest form.
Posted by corndo on :
Still one nagging thing: I still think this would have faired better if there would have been an accompaning PR to declare...something!!?!
Q: is there really a PR pending FoT?
Posted by BuyTex on :
quote:Originally posted by will: I am wondering if any of the relatively new traders that failed to sell at .015 -.019 range, and were convinced this would see .10 and held it can tell me what happened. Review in your minds what caused you 1. to buy? 2. to ignore profit and hold after a 50% or 100% gain? 3. to at least not put yourself in a protected situation where you could have sold a portion of your position and had free shares thus protecting your intital investment? What happened to your thought process that made you ignore these now obvious safeguards? ...and finally? how many of you will do it all over again? It took me about three good ass whippings to understand what really went on when the numbing pain stopped. Perhaps this is the first thumping for some of you, perhaps you have bumps and bruises from former touted plays, but eventually you will find what works for you. Unfortunately it appears a few got caught for some substantial $ here.
lol, good post, will...
Posted by will on :
They call it paying your tuition, Tex.
Posted by BuyTex on :
Will, I'm stamped: can leave "the club" and get back in, lol
Posted by Bearclaw on :
Amen Will...
Great job Tex, Lil..Jerm...Corndo...Will and others...I did not play this stock but followed it...
FOT your a good guy...No one who knows you doesn't understand...Lick whatever wounds you may have and come back Monday with the same drive for the market...No way your going to get it right 100% of the time...You give good picks and good advice and your always up front with folks..That's really more than anyone could ever ask for...
And as far as folks calling you stuff...well you know there are folks who are eyes and have vision ...then there are folks who are hands that put that vision to work...and then there are folks who are butts...they've always been butts...they're butts now and they always will be butts...Ya just gotta let the butts be butts...and keep doing what your doing...see ya Monday buddy...
quote:Originally posted by will: They call it paying your tuition, Tex.
Posted by Jerm on :
Yes, good post, Will.
I am only angry with myself... and this is my third burn, so hopefully I'm much smarter now.
I knew this was a risky one, so I only put in $500... when I got up wednesday morning and saw it shooting up I almost sold it... then no, I got greedy and decided to buy more and did not watch it... all my fault.
I fully believe that what I have learned these past 3 days will simply make me more money in the future.
FOT, please do not let this keep you from your good work... you do a great job of bringing good prospects to us... it is then up to us to do what we will. However, I would certainly understand if you decided that enough is enough... the ole "good deeds never go unpunished"!
Posted by will on :
I don't like or agree with the idea of a stock picking guru. I don't think anyone is here to purposely hurt anyone either. I do believe the folks that tout and support these picks understand the concept of protecting at least their intitial investment and/or make profit while chatting it up. A lot of people who aren't experienced will be listening to the chat and get caught up in the hype while the touters are expereinced enough to cover themselves with safeguards. lil' does it, and tells people not to be greedy, reality said she sold most of her position at at .018. Greed gets us. Just remember usually the first in, are the first out. Know what you are doing before you do it. Make your play and have a plan and don't give a phuck what anyone tells you. If you're like me and have little confidence in your pick, play for free shares, and if it really pops you'll have a portion of your play to appreciate. If you do protect your initial investment and hit on a REAL runner, and you piss and moan that you could have twice as much if you didn't play safe, then you are a pig and need your ass whipped often and hard.
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
Very good points Will; greed can be a portfolio killer thats for sure. Ok let me start by saying Reverse splits in pennyland are almost always bad and I don't care what anyone tells you; If you do not understand what a reverse split is then you should not play pennies. People here were told by fire that a R/S was pending instantly you should have been on guard. When I learned of the R/S I saw that both rickpic and myself posted it here and I sold my remaining shares; lets get something straight if you are playing pennies you must nurse them and know exactly what is going on at all times with them..... Speaking of nursing my wife delivered our baby at 3:33 PM on thursday the day of the split; I learned of the R/S on my handheld while I was in the room with my wife while she was in labor and then posted it here; you can call me a psycho for watching stocks at that moment but hey thats just me. -MAG
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
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Posted by BuyTex on :
that's why I love you so, lol--flip flops and all...
Congratulations, man!
Take care of the brood...
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: that's why I love you so, lol--flip flops and all...
Congratulations, man!
Take care of the brood...
Thanks Bro Posted by lilpennypincher on :
HEY MAG! Congrats! Wow, that is just wonderful. Bless your wonderful family!
Posted by *Magnetic*Microspheres* on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: HEY MAG! Congrats! Wow, that is just wonderful. Bless your wonderful family!
TY lil Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
Thanks for the kind words everyone!
I am glad that some here can see through the BS that they are posting about me...
I remember a couple picks ago, they accused me of frontloading and then dumping into the run. Now, since this stock had zero volume except for the 60k that I purchased about 5 minutes before I posted, they had to come up with something new to discredit me, hence this whole promoter crap... and it is just that! CRAP!
These guys will do anything to try and swing others to their board with a promise of big gains...
In the future.. I hope others will check my DD, call the CEO's or IR people and get some peace of mind for themselves.
Posted by HossTrader on :
quote:Originally posted by will: I am wondering if any of the relatively new traders that failed to sell at .015 -.019 range, and were convinced this would see .10 and held it can tell me what happened. Review in your minds what caused you 1. to buy? 2. to ignore profit and hold after a 50% or 100% gain? 3. to at least not put yourself in a protected situation where you could have sold a portion of your position and had free shares thus protecting your intital investment? What happened to your thought process that made you ignore these now obvious safeguards? ...and finally? how many of you will do it all over again? It took me about three good ass whippings to understand what really went on when the numbing pain stopped. Perhaps this is the first thumping for some of you, perhaps you have bumps and bruises from former touted plays, but eventually you will find what works for you. Unfortunately it appears a few got caught for some substantial $ here.
I got greeeeeeeedy I had seen it as an all or nothing play to begin with. I sold out a little at 012, so I didn't lose everything. But I still took a good hit.
I was even prepared to take it graciously (albeit grumpily) until numnuts started repetitively gloating about. Sorry to fill the board up and make people read my venting. The attitude and "told you so" stuff pissed me off more than losing some money!!
Once again. Sorry to everyone for ranting and feeding the beast.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Jeff, All in All......A good pick. It gave people a chance to get in at .002 and sell at .02! WOW.
The thing is....we were all hoping for a super run to .05! Or whatever.
Makes you not want to post any more picks... Cuz' the one posting it....is the one that get's the $hit when it falls.
We all hooted and hallard' for this one. And you have nothing to be sorry for. HECK it went up over 1000% from the bottom.
Now there was a big gap to sell between' the bottom and the top on that one.
I sold some but got caught with the rest as I was thinking another run was behind the gap. Oh well.....Live and Learn....AGAIN! LOL
Posted by Clyde_Crashcup on :
quote:Originally posted by FatherOfTwo: I know I deserve a huge tongue lashing from everyone here that lost money! FYI.. I lost money too! I will accept whatever punishment you all dish out, and I will stand up and accept it, because I am responsible for bringing this pick to the board! I will not hold any ill will toward anyone that dishes it out to me!
It is funny how when a stock is going up though, the compliments are free flowing, and as soon as the thing goes down, the person directly involved in finding the pick is a snake or whatever I have been called.....
All I can ask is that you all accept my apology for loosing some $$$ here! I am truly sorry!
As far as MoMo labeling me a "Stock Promoter who dumps on all the members here", that is simply not true! A few here that have known me for a while can attest to my honesty and integrity. Many times, I post the exact number of shares that I purchase and the time and price, so you know I am buying into the stock.
Like everyone else, I look to gain valuable information about a stock by not only searching on line, but also by calling the IR people and CEO's if I can get them! Every PR that comes out has a persons name and phone number....... CALL THEM YOURSELVES! Verify what it is that I find out and post here for everyone to read! You will see that I report exactly what I am told!
Anyway... again, I ask everyone to accept my apologies.
Jeff
Jeff,
You owe no aplogies. Anyone that would blame you for losing money is a coward. They have no backbone and should ride their bikes down to the local bank branch and open a safe savings account. Everyone has access to the same information. Some are to lazy to access it. They blame their losses on the cheerleading, the hype, the person posting the pick but don't have the character to look themselves in the mirror for the real reason money was lost.
You're a good person and I appreciate the effort.
To those who blamed FOT:
You know that pennies are high risk. Grow up, act like Men and Women and move on.
If your looking for a leader because you suffer from lethargy and can't make decisions on your own, then going to Momo's site. He will gladly take your money and make you feel good about losing it.
Posted by corndo on :
I most definitely don't blame FOT. I am now even more acutely watching for his next pick.
Until then: which of his CURRENT picks do you all see having an uptick in the near future?
Posted by jordanreed on :
you may be a bull or a bear, but dont be a pig
Posted by OnceApenny on :
Greedy or Lucky. I was in this a couple of days ago when it closed at 0.002. Purchased a 100K at 0.025 and put it the next day at 0.005 to sell. It filled at the end of the day. Then the big news came and it went over a penny. I blame myself for beiing such a fool, cause I missed again another 200%. Yeah, I was GRRREEEDY. Then the R/S came and it was back on 0.003. Then I said to myself.... I was Lucky. Think greedy and lucky are family of each other and it is difficult to find a good balance.
Posted by futurama08 on :
Is anyone else's E*Trade Portfolio showing the original number of shares at $2.00/shares?
Posted by Rules on :
Well is it official, are we screwed on this stock?
Posted by Ross on :
quote:Originally posted by futurama08: Is anyone else's E*Trade Portfolio showing the original number of shares at $2.00/shares?
ya, i wish that was real... isee the same... i wanna sell rightaway Posted by prefect on :
My scottrade account does...heheh.
Wish I could sell.
GRDX# $451,485.91 Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Hehe that aint no lie, same here Gotta love how Scottrade shows things like that sometimes.
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Sad to say thats what we wish would of happened with the shell fill Posted by futurama08 on :
Yeah my million dollar portfolio looks so good I log-in to Etrade on a hourly basis. Too bad it'll all be gone monday morning.
back to grinding the rent money
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Hehe yep.
Posted by SchwarzBiest on :
In at .0085, out at .01...thanks FOT, ya made me some money on this one too! Posted by Ross on :
hmm....
i don't see the name change that we saw on thursday on the OTCC website
I bought 30,000 shares at .005 My scottrade account says on friday the stock was down 1$ from 3$.. I am unable to sell as of now
Will I find out monday morning how much I've made?
What should I expect?
Posted by futurama08 on :
You will have 30 shares at $2 each or $60.
Enjoy.
Posted by Jmoove on :
my etrade account says that my shares are worth 150 grand! woo-hoo to bad they corrected the price but not the amount of shares
Posted by futurama08 on :
Yup, I'm worth over a quarter mill! Woo!
Posted by HossTrader on :
I am saving a screen shot and framing it for now!
Posted by Ryan Brown on :
quote:Originally posted by futurama08: You will have 30 shares at $2 each or $60.
Enjoy.
well thats a bunch of horsecrap
Posted by futurama08 on :
Try having 120,000 shares at .010 converted to 120 shares at $2; now that's a bunch of horsecrap! :-D
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Scottrade still hasnt switched over, bums.
Posted by Rules on :
I can't wait until this stock goes from $2 a share to $350 a share. Cause when it does, I will be in the plus by a dollar!
Posted by Patrick on :
You all got fleeced by the a company the needs the money to make up for all the hockey losses. What better way than to get it from a wide array of stock holders (the little people).
The fleecing of America....and they do it because it's perfectly legal (meaning they can).
Posted by Chas35 on :
lol rules...good attitude!
Posted by Rules on :
Hmm, I am thinking we may not be as screwed as we are thinking. There are less shares in the market even more so now. Another words, it isn't going to take much to get this stock up to $20 a share especially if they put forth an IPO that is expected to fund the company. Add this with team sign ons and you basically have an instantly profitable company that many will be unable to get their hands on at this price. Just a thought but like I said, there may be more to this then we are currently thinking.
Posted by Ross on :
i still wud like to see a sarcastic PR saying..... " HEY , U R SCREWED DUDE!!!!!"""
Posted by Aquapurity on :
Rules, I hope you're on to something
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Im holding onto my shares for a bit to see how it all shakes out. The theory sounds good behind it all, we'll just have to see Posted by Rules on :
Think about it, we were the volume to make this stock move. It took very little to make it fly and to also bring it back down. The reverse split only reduced the float even more. This is why the L2s are showing a massive spread on the bid / ask. The float is probably the smallest float I have ever seen. You bet this stock is not liquidable and therefore you would be foolish to unload right now. That is my opinion but once the company iniates a PR, that is only going to alert the market that there is a new company in town and you will find buyers stepping in to buy shares. Super low float is only going to make the stock pop up high. The company is going to need to do an IPO and that means serious money and exposure for the stock. How can you go wrong with a name of World Hockey Association in an open market. Anything was better than Grand Lux lol. I am thinking I have nothing to lose other than to sit on this and watch how it plays out.
Posted by HossTrader on :
I hope you are right. I consider what money I still have in it as lost at this point. So any recovery would be cool.
Posted by billyboo on :
I find it interesting that they posted so quickly on their website they are a publicly trading company now.
Posted by Rules on :
quote:Originally posted by HossTrader: I hope you are right. I consider what money I still have in it as lost at this point. So any recovery would be cool.
I have a feeling that we are going to recovery and then some. If you read the prior PRs then really we are sitting good as we would not be able to buy in to this stock without paying a hefty price now. The PRs make sense and after reading over them again today, I am feeling everything is going to work out after all.
Posted by Rules on :
With six teams that is between $12-24 million in revenue right off the bat.
I think a lot of people are missing the point that: We bought X number of shares and now we have X/1000 but the price wasn't corrolated to that at all! That means that we have to have a huge price increase at the very least in order to see our original investment!
So take my awsome state of affairs right now: 120,000 shares at $0.010 = $1200 120 shares at $2.00 = $240
I need the stock to hit $10 before I can hope of seeing my original return back. Given that the current volume is ZERO this might take quite some time. While they have all these things we can speculate on, the fact remains that this company seems to be run by a bunch of douche///'s. They havent even released a freakin PR, oh right except for the 1 line tag on their website. Now according to alexa.com (http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=worldhockeyassociation.net/) their website is ranked #827,304 while Allstocks.com is ranked 35,330. Awsome, we must be getting a TON of exposure now...not.
Don't get me wrong, I wish the stock would hit 100$ because, hey, I'm still in it. But for you guys to say that it's not going to take much for us to be in the green, pass it to the left please because I need a hit.
Posted by buckstalker on :
Keep passing it...I need a hit or two myself...lol
Posted by Aquapurity on :
quote:Originally posted by futurama08: I think a lot of people are missing the point that: We bought X number of shares and now we have X/1000 but the price wasn't corrolated to that at all! That means that we have to have a huge price increase at the very least in order to see our original investment!
So take my awsome state of affairs right now: 120,000 shares at $0.010 = $1200 120 shares at $2.00 = $240
I need the stock to hit $10 before I can hope of seeing my original return back. Given that the current volume is ZERO this might take quite some time. While they have all these things we can speculate on, the fact remains that this company seems to be run by a bunch of douche///'s. They havent even released a freakin PR, oh right except for the 1 line tag on their website. Now according to alexa.com (http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=worldhockeyassociation.net/) their website is ranked #827,304 while Allstocks.com is ranked 35,330. Awsome, we must be getting a TON of exposure now...not.
Don't get me wrong, I wish the stock would hit 100$ because, hey, I'm still in it. But for you guys to say that it's not going to take much for us to be in the green, pass it to the left please because I need a hit.
Agreed. Are you going to hold on and try to recoup some of your investment or sell right away. I've seen a few reverse splits plummet in price. I'm still deciding what to do with my 60 shares.
Posted by one2watchny on :
quote:Originally posted by futurama08: I think a lot of people are missing the point that: We bought X number of shares and now we have X/1000 but the price wasn't corrolated to that at all! That means that we have to have a huge price increase at the very least in order to see our original investment!
So take my awsome state of affairs right now: 120,000 shares at $0.010 = $1200 120 shares at $2.00 = $240
I need the stock to hit $10 before I can hope of seeing my original return back. Given that the current volume is ZERO this might take quite some time. While they have all these things we can speculate on, the fact remains that this company seems to be run by a bunch of douche///'s. They havent even released a freakin PR, oh right except for the 1 line tag on their website. Now according to alexa.com (http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=worldhockeyassociation.net/) their website is ranked #827,304 while Allstocks.com is ranked 35,330. Awsome, we must be getting a TON of exposure now...not.
Don't get me wrong, I wish the stock would hit 100$ because, hey, I'm still in it. But for you guys to say that it's not going to take much for us to be in the green, pass it to the left please because I need a hit.
The stock very well may start trading at that price If there was no R/S where do you think the price would be today?
Posted by corndo on :
I just called the WHA number and identified myself as a stockholder with some questions. The guy who answered said he was just leaving Tampa on his way to Ontario and asked if I would call him tomorrow. He said he would be glad to answer my questions and give me information then. Does anyone have anything they would like asked? (that can actually be *answered*, of course)
Posted by futurama08 on :
>Agreed. Are you going to hold on and try to >recoup some of your investment or sell right >away. I've seen a few reverse splits plummet in >price. I'm still deciding what to do with my 60 >shares.
Well there's no reason to sell for me. I'm out a grand, who cares about two hundred extra bucks? Keep it and hope for the best.
>The stock very well may start trading at that >price. If there was no R/S where do you think >the price would be today?
Well if we are playing the game of "What If..." then the price was at .022 and dropped back because of profit taking but most of the drop occured when the R/S was announced and people shook in their boots and couldn't wait to sell! So I am only going to assume (again "what if" game) that with no R/S at best the price would have stayed in the mid teens or the price would have gone up if they actually released a P/R saying we don't need to f*** our shareholders over, we got more funding! Hoorah! Then the price would hit that imaginary .10+ we were talking about.
>I just called the WHA number and identified >myself as a stockholder with some questions. >The guy who answered said he was just leaving >Tampa on his way to Ontario and asked if I >would call him tomorrow. He said he would be >glad to answer my questions and give me >information then. Does anyone have anything >they would like asked? (that can actually be >*answered*, of course)
Yeah, assuming you get to him tomorrow:
Is a PR coming out? What is the future now that the R/S is done? What can we expect from WHA in the next six months? They said they were moving to the OTCBB they are still on the pinks--why?
And so on and so forth.
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Someone earlier I thought mentioned dilution, I would ask about that as well.
Posted by Jerm on :
How about...
What happened to the 1/10 stock dividend promised in a previous PR?
Posted by prefect on :
Yeah I am curious about dilution as well.
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Exactly, Marinas International or whatever they were gonna call it.
quote:Originally posted by Jerm: How about...
What happened to the 1/10 stock dividend promised in a previous PR?
Posted by corndo on :
Thanks, that's exactly what I will bring up to him on tomorrow when I call. I'm thinking around 10am Texas time just incase a PR comes out!! LOL
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
Still waiting on Scottrade to get their shares in for WHKY.
Posted by kywee on :
finally scottrade gave me my whky shares and got rid of that 166,666 worth, was so annoying
Posted by Rules on :
Any calls to the CEO yet?
Posted by stickfigurefred on :
I for-one would be pleased to recieve any responce from any current shareholder in this stock. I would like to know if anyone besides Fatherof2 has spoken to the CEO of this company? The reason why I'd ask a question like that is because of a comment made by the CEO when I called his cell phone number last week wednesday. I for on have depended on stock advice from members like Fatherof2 but it has become aprant to me that he might have been in on this R/S issue and moved on to a new stock to cause more damage. I've seen all the bashing and I would like to comment without being bashed myself. Fatherof2 seemed to jump of this thread very quickly and turn focus on ADDI which apears to be another trap all over again. He has been confronted by senior member's and his only responce was the post a link to a chart and say the chart looked good. Everyone knows him for being a very good play caller and DD analizer but how can you forget to read the SEC filen time after time. I believe favortizm has played a major role on why he is still here and has not been banned as of yet. He clearly doesn't know what he is doing and it has cost us money more then once. I have now invested in microcaptrade t ofind runners and I am very happy with what I have seen so far. I believe pennies are a risk all on it's own and to play someone's pick who is dishonest adds even more danger to the plays. I've seen the conversation he posted with a member whom is hated on this board (momo) and no one has spoke out about that. Fatherof2 knew he would lose support with the r/s of GRDX so he turned to a group leader to help him with volume only to be turned down. I am aware that people might call me momo or a momo lover, but I am inpartical supporter of this stock. I've read all those post about Momo and it appears to me he made one bad call and was booted right after. Why is it Fatherof2 has the lives of 10 cats and post freely and even cut deals with our enemie Momo and yet still be allowed to post? Someone please answer these question. Thank you, Tim
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Wa-Waaaa-WAAAAAAAAAA!
My Goodness. I still have some of this POS but, I'm certainly not blaming anyone but me for it. WHY DOES FOT have to do all of the DD? Could have been me....Could have been you.. YOUR MONEY, SHOULD HAVE BEEN YOU!
And to answer your question about momo..
He directly comes on here and posts personal attacts against members......I've seen it several times... And....don't believe everything you see in print.. How hard is it to copy something and paste only the parts you want pasted and add your own words....If you believe it has not been done in a PM posted by momo....Go back to kindergarden!
Now stop whining and take responsibility for your own Trades......
[ September 27, 2005, 17:35: Message edited by: lilpennypincher ]
Posted by Bearclaw on :
Freaky Frankie... Rather than type it all up here you go on your Momo question...This was originally posted by Chopper... If this doesn't work for you it's easy to find Momo's private site..Have at it...
Chopper Member posted September 20, 2005 12:44 PM Shaking my head thinking I thought ol mumu had turned a new leaf. I guess not.
For your reading Pleasure.
The Market is not a closed universe limited only to the Old timers posting and the Newbie’s watching and playing the picks here on All Stocks or RB.
There are hundreds and thousands of folks that play the penny stock game world wide that use the same programs that we use with almost literally the same trade alerts for volume, % gain and on and on. There are a limitless group of combinations. The Con that momo plays is a multi level front load scheme that specifically searches for Low float under the radar type stocks that have the potential for news or world events that may look favorable toward that particular sector stock. He keeps these on his watch list and rotates occasionally.
Momo has 2 different groups that play these. The first group secretly front loads as much as 2 weeks in advance to just a few days to give the stock he has picked the appearance of positive volume. The second group is given the pick just after the first by 2 or 3 days and they are instructed to buy as well as this is going to be “The Next Momo Runner”. This gives the stock pick additional volume and now has a positive % and volume increase for now what would appear for many days to 2 weeks. The shell plants (momo followers) inundate the various stock blog boards with the same old con garbage. Hmmmmmmm look at SCAM stock it has had a 60 % or whatever gain in the last week or 2. Or I called the PR guy and there is supposed to be a HUGE PR next week. Or I here there is an offer on the table to buy SCAM company for 1000% of where it is trading at today. I think you get the drift as to the myriad of possible Fraudulent Pumps that could be used. By this time SCAM stock is popping up on the radar of many people world wide and appears to be a sound possible play. With the additional buying of New Suckers to the great play momo is pushing on the boards this produces additional volume and % increase. Now it is truly a Great Buy as it is starting to Jump like a Rocket. TBLU is a classic example of a momo play. A No nothing shell company that is easily manipulated upward with relatively a minimal investment by momo’s group creating as much as a 100% gain in just 30 minutes when the scam is officially the play of the day. Of course momo and the other insider scam artists have been accumulating for days to weeks prior giving these creeps the chance to make thousands off the backs of the unsuspecting. They sell Like heck the day they Launch the SCAM stock.
Now if this was a closed universe and there was only the groups on AS or the RB boards dealing with this scam then I would have to say “to each their own”. I think the old timers warn people enough. So if the newbie’s buy into this get rich quick crap they deserve to get burned. But it is NOT a closed universe and momo and his gang of Crooks aren’t just nailing investors on these boards but momo is Screwing the unwitting folks that aren’t aware of his con. It is one thing to invest into a solid potential stock and tell others about it, But to front load lie about their potential and purposely Manipulate stocks is CRIMINAL. This is no different than Holding up a 7/11 at GUNPOINT by masked Robbers!
That is why we bash momo and his Gang of Crooks and Scam Artist Wanna bees. Enough Said!
Posted by Nile on :
Let me just say that Im not in this stock but I have followed the thread for a while now.
Freakyfranky Instead of blaming others for your lack of DD, why dont you take responsibility and chalk your loses up to "learning experience." You have way to much time on your hands if you are coming up with conspiracies.
Lastly, Momo didnt get kick off because of one bad call (which was his only one). He got kicked off for verbally attacking people like littlepennypincher said. So in that respect you need to do more DD.
Looks like a trend is developing here........ your lack of DD!
Posted by freakyfranky on :
quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: Freaky Frankie... Rather than type it all up here you go on your Momo question...This was originally posted by Chopper... If this doesn't work for you it's easy to find Momo's private site..Have at it...
Chopper Member posted September 20, 2005 12:44 PM Shaking my head thinking I thought ol mumu had turned a new leaf. I guess not.
For your reading Pleasure.
The Market is not a closed universe limited only to the Old timers posting and the Newbie’s watching and playing the picks here on All Stocks or RB.
There are hundreds and thousands of folks that play the penny stock game world wide that use the same programs that we use with almost literally the same trade alerts for volume, % gain and on and on. There are a limitless group of combinations. The Con that momo plays is a multi level front load scheme that specifically searches for Low float under the radar type stocks that have the potential for news or world events that may look favorable toward that particular sector stock. He keeps these on his watch list and rotates occasionally.
Momo has 2 different groups that play these. The first group secretly front loads as much as 2 weeks in advance to just a few days to give the stock he has picked the appearance of positive volume. The second group is given the pick just after the first by 2 or 3 days and they are instructed to buy as well as this is going to be “The Next Momo Runner”. This gives the stock pick additional volume and now has a positive % and volume increase for now what would appear for many days to 2 weeks. The shell plants (momo followers) inundate the various stock blog boards with the same old con garbage. Hmmmmmmm look at SCAM stock it has had a 60 % or whatever gain in the last week or 2. Or I called the PR guy and there is supposed to be a HUGE PR next week. Or I here there is an offer on the table to buy SCAM company for 1000% of where it is trading at today. I think you get the drift as to the myriad of possible Fraudulent Pumps that could be used. By this time SCAM stock is popping up on the radar of many people world wide and appears to be a sound possible play. With the additional buying of New Suckers to the great play momo is pushing on the boards this produces additional volume and % increase. Now it is truly a Great Buy as it is starting to Jump like a Rocket. TBLU is a classic example of a momo play. A No nothing shell company that is easily manipulated upward with relatively a minimal investment by momo’s group creating as much as a 100% gain in just 30 minutes when the scam is officially the play of the day. Of course momo and the other insider scam artists have been accumulating for days to weeks prior giving these creeps the chance to make thousands off the backs of the unsuspecting. They sell Like heck the day they Launch the SCAM stock.
Now if this was a closed universe and there was only the groups on AS or the RB boards dealing with this scam then I would have to say “to each their own”. I think the old timers warn people enough. So if the newbie’s buy into this get rich quick crap they deserve to get burned. But it is NOT a closed universe and momo and his gang of Crooks aren’t just nailing investors on these boards but momo is Screwing the unwitting folks that aren’t aware of his con. It is one thing to invest into a solid potential stock and tell others about it, But to front load lie about their potential and purposely Manipulate stocks is CRIMINAL. This is no different than Holding up a 7/11 at GUNPOINT by masked Robbers!
That is why we bash momo and his Gang of Crooks and Scam Artist Wanna bees. Enough Said!
Thank you for the post Bearclaw. I really do not see much of a difference between what Fatherof2 does and what Momo does. Father seems to be loved and respected by many on this board mainly because "He is a honest and nice person" If Momo wasn't so "Evil and mean" would you propose that he is the better play caller of the two? Do not allow personal dislike for an individual for you to use him as a scalp goat. I am sure if Momo posted GRDX with the same DD and chart analyze I am sure you would of called him a Pumper and Dumper and maybe he knew the r/s was going to happen. Why is that? Because he doesn't commas in his sentences or because he tends to misspell words alot? This is English 101. This is the stock market. The experience traders make money while the new traders either get beginners luck or lose 90% of there investment which in this case everyone involved in GRDX has. For an individual like Momo to make a call and it go up it means those involved weather frontloaded or not have many avenues in which to exit to gain profit. For Momo to control how 3 people trade a stock is impossible much less everyone in his group and all those who see the stock running on microcaptrader.. He is just one individual who calls a play and people follow his lead. How is what he does a form of Manipulating stocks is which makes him a CRIMINAL? We have the right as investors to purchase any security we like weather the company makes money or not. Momo does make acquisitions which he may never be able to prove but it sure makes you think. Investors like myself know what IR firms are there for. For Fatherof2 to admit he gets his plays from IR firms is a very stupid admission from "smart man" which his followers make him out to be. I've followed both of there plays and when ever Momo says PR is to be released it always is released. As is the same with Fatherof2. Momo gets his volume from his group while Fatherof2 has his own group of followers. Only difference between the two is Momo doesn't provide DD which in the case of GRDX is a fog screen to the truth on why the stock will run. Personal hate for an individual has allowed people to hate Momo and even bash him not knowing who he is or what he has done in the past. While fatherof2 gets all the attention and calls bad plays time after time again. It's not about doing your own DD or calling IR firms. It's the principle of knowing who are dealing with (IR firm) and the risk vs reward( r/s vs $$$) I just felt the need to speak on what has gone on and personally I am very glad to see fatherof2 fail. It is now putting the pressure on those who depend on him to DD further and understand that there is more to investing then PR and charts... What is the intention of the CEO... That's the question everyone should be asking themselves.
[ September 27, 2005, 20:08: Message edited by: freakyfranky ]
Posted by HossTrader on :
Hey Momo, it is hard to pretend to be noble while trashing someone at the same time. Your ego won't let you let go will it?
I think I figured out another reason for the name Momo. You use the same M.O. repeatedly.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
And..Mr. Freddy! another thing. "Bad pick, time and time again"?
FOT called this at .01 Correct....? It went to .015, then it came down...to .0015! From there it went to .024!!!!!! BAD CALL? I don't think so....We were all waiting for the SAME THING! HAD EVERY CHANGE TO GET OUT AND MAKE A BUNDLE!!!!!!
I got a PM on how momo plays his plays.... He out right tells his people that he will make them money! Having groups set up....One small group buys, sells to the next on the ask, and then the next on the ask....etcm then letting the public see the gain, they dump and leave YOU holding the bag. Most of the time (From what I hear) it does not work anyway...And all of this time.....MOMO is out! Cuz' he got in days before....
FOT.....Posts some he see's have potential...AT THE BOTTOM.... AGAIN! With DD and the given chance for EVERYONE to DOUBLE CHECK IT!!!!!!
The difference is.....MOMO Picks plays for his people.......Here, you have a choice. If you see FOT post and don't want to buy.....DON'T! MOVE ON!!! He's not holding a gun to your head. And He must be calling some good picks if he has this huge following... Perhaps he keeps his huge following of "experienced traders" as they know when to GET OUT! Why does he have to hold your hand for months after he posts a pick?
SO WHAT IF HE POSTS ONE AND IS OUT 1 hour, 3 days or 3 months.....WHEN? does it stop being his responsiblilty to hold your hand.....NOW stop your Bi*chen and move on!
Posted by Bearclaw on :
FreakyFranky... If you can't see the difference then maybe you need to move on. We all know Momo well. You obviously need to get to know him better...or...maybe you already do...more than any of us here know...
Posted by DQ. on :
What's your take here folks? Are you selling at 2 bucks or holding to see what happens?
Posted by freakyfranky on :
quote:Originally posted by DQ.: What's your take here folks? Are you selling at 2 bucks or holding to see what happens?
The bid isn't even 2.00 nor has the stock got a buy on the ask. Anyone who sells will get under 100 dollars for there shares... So much for the future..
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Oh my.......I did sell some and kept some.... BY MY CHOICE....It was running good.....Thought a dip was coming and figured it would go back up. MY CHOICE!!!!NOT FOT'S.....
And If newbies are playing without the knowledge of searching SEC filings, O/S's....etc. Placing all the blame on someone else for their lack of market knowledge makes sense?
THEY SHOULD NOT BE TRADING! GET EDUCATED!
I for one don't change the oil on my car.....I DON'T KNOW HOW!!! If I took the time to learn.....maybe I would...(no I wouldn't) but,.......the point stands.
Learn how to DD.........INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELVES!!!
Man o' Man..... Move on already!
Posted by Sunnyside on :
Listen folks, this guy IS a freak. He won't go away until we agree that he's as "special" as he sees himself. That's really what it's about. Oh, yeah, and a new member recruit. My take is whoever is enticed by this vile character deserves their losses.
I don't follow FO2 or any one in particular. But, I bought this stock as a good gamble. Got in at 5 and sold into the gap at 20. 300% ain't bad.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
NICE Sunnyside and good for you.
Posted by Bearclaw on :
Freaky...
One of the reasons folks have major problems with Momo is because he always comes here pretending to be someone else...Lying... deceiving people...pumping the prowess of the great and powerful mumu ...damn funny boy...
Just like now Momo...Freaky...you are Momo or his stock beech....Maybe gallons of KY jelly is in your future..Your so transparent...
What is it you want now Momo other than to discredit FOT and recruit new people...Is there anything else you want...???? Sounds like you want to take on Lil now too...You only had 14 left in your group last week...Did you get more with this bullsheet? Kids....
Posted by freakyfranky on :
quote:Originally posted by Upside: Posted by Prdponce:
quote:Up & Will
ROTFLMAO....Good analisys... stock gurus... I was going to buy some... thanks for the explanation .. maybe I will pass on this one...
Is this the CMKX thread... YET? It is revoked ?
Remember 6 months or so ago Prdponce? FoTN is front loading and trying to run another one. It never ends. Did you see the p/m exchange that was posted between coldmoney (momo) and him on the GRDX thread the other day? Basically FoTN saying "you bring your sheep, I'll bring mine and we'll cash in." It's reprehensible and it still goes on. Front load, pump the hell out of it then cash out on the quick run while all the newbies are left bag holding. That's what this board has deteriorated to, nothing but self interest.
Appears that others see F02 in the same light as I do. Only now are people starting to comment on it. Maybe Upside is Momo also...
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
LOL, He Does not want to take on this Jersey girl with the PMS I've got swinging Bear...LOL
Gallons of KY in your future......ROFLMAO!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Oh MY again! Freak!
Have you ever copied, pasted, and changed words....I do it all the time in those Silly "Getting to know you" e=mails from my kids..
PM's can be altered as well...
Now......get back on your tricycle and peddle back home....It's way past your bedtime.
Nite, Nite all....
Posted by Bearclaw on :
Lil... Sunnyside said it well...Nite to you too...and everyone...see you tomorrow...nity nite mumu...
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: LOL, He Does not want to take on this Jersey girl with the PMS I've got swinging Bear...LOL
Gallons of KY in your future......ROFLMAO!
Posted by freakyfranky on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Oh MY again! Freak!
Have you ever copied, pasted, and changed words....I do it all the time in those Silly "Getting to know you" e=mails from my kids..
PM's can be altered as well...
Now......get back on your tricycle and peddle back home....It's way past your bedtime.
Nite, Nite all....
Lil it wasnt a PM. It was a post made on the ADDI thread. How about you go back and look and notice that I did not change 1 word. Let's see what you responce will be to that?
Posted by Sunnyside on :
Momo, even if everyone would agree that FO2 is everything you say, you stillwouldn't be the upside. What a sorry state of affairs that would be. Damn, you really think you're something. ROFLMAO.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Please don't try and save me Freak! I'm a big girl and can take a loss now and again.. I've made more money on FOT's picks and my own as well as the picks of others on this board, then most make working 40+ hours a week.
If you're trading with your lunch, gas or mortgage money......You've got a problem and should not be here! The market is not for you!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by freakyfranky:
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Oh MY again! Freak!
Have you ever copied, pasted, and changed words....I do it all the time in those Silly "Getting to know you" e=mails from my kids..
PM's can be altered as well...
Now......get back on your tricycle and peddle back home....It's way past your bedtime.
Nite, Nite all....
Lil it wasnt a PM. It was a post made on the ADDI thread. How about you go back and look and notice that I did not change 1 word. Let's see what you responce will be to that?
You can't even follow a quote and post... I was referring to this....
Remember 6 months or so ago Prdponce? FoTN is front loading and trying to run another one. It never ends. Did you see the p/m exchange that was posted between coldmoney (momo) and him on the GRDX thread the other day? Basically FoTN saying "you bring your sheep, I'll bring mine and we'll cash in." It's reprehensible and it still goes on. Front load, pump the hell out of it then cash out on the quick run while all the newbies are left bag holding. That's what this board has deteriorated to, nothing but self interest.
Now nite, nite momo! I'm sure we'll see you tomorrow!
Posted by freakyfranky on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Please don't try and save me Freak! I'm a big girl and can take a loss now and again.. I've made more money on FOT's picks and my own as well as the picks of others on this board, then most make working 40+ hours a week.
If you're trading with your lunch, gas or mortgage money......You've got a problem and should not be here! The market is not for you!
Doesn't matter how much money you have in your account. It's about the "stock gru" feeding the public the good news and not giving them the bad news which is the most important... You keep cheerleading Fatherof2 but he will only be taking your money not mine or anyone else on this board.
Posted by freakyfranky on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
quote:Originally posted by freakyfranky:
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Oh MY again! Freak!
Have you ever copied, pasted, and changed words....I do it all the time in those Silly "Getting to know you" e=mails from my kids..
PM's can be altered as well...
Now......get back on your tricycle and peddle back home....It's way past your bedtime.
Nite, Nite all....
Lil it wasnt a PM. It was a post made on the ADDI thread. How about you go back and look and notice that I did not change 1 word. Let's see what you responce will be to that?
You can't even follow a quote and post... I was referring to this....
Remember 6 months or so ago Prdponce? FoTN is front loading and trying to run another one. It never ends. Did you see the p/m exchange that was posted between coldmoney (momo) and him on the GRDX thread the other day? Basically FoTN saying "you bring your sheep, I'll bring mine and we'll cash in." It's reprehensible and it still goes on. Front load, pump the hell out of it then cash out on the quick run while all the newbies are left bag holding. That's what this board has deteriorated to, nothing but self interest.
Now nite, nite momo! I'm sure we'll see you tomorrow!
That's exactly what I was talking about. That copy and paste was from a post by upside on the ADDI thread. You said I edited that message but infact that's the same post on the ADDI. Your just like FO2 you read what you want ot read.
Posted by kywee on :
i am not on anyones side...but you all are missing some important things:
first of all this if what FOT said:
"From a tech perspective, the chart is looking good with the MACD crossing over and the RSI showing oversold."
now does that mean you hold it forever? no, he never once mentioned to hold it. its your fault if you hold for more than 3 days, or whatever your preference is.
you can say well the newbies dont know...well do you go skiing off the steepest cliff the first time, or base jump by yourself the first time? or maybe take a college exam without going to class? no! you ****ing learn! learn before you do it, or learn from EXPERIENCE and DONT bitch
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next...it was the PR (if you read it) that stated the 1-10. one thing i dont see is a shell getting filled. your to blame if you didnt see a mention about a shell
"Grand Lux, Inc. will be spinning out all current assets into Marinas International Inc. and will provide Grand Lux, Inc. shareholder a one (1) share dividend of Marinas International Inc., for every ten (10) shares of GRDX. The Marinas International Inc. new symbol and dates will be announced in the near future as they become available."
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the only thing that is fishy is the pms, but in reality, i would like to know who wouldnt want to combine to power houses for a huge run...
even if you wouldnt, just shut up, i cant believe im reading this **** the night before my exam...
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by freakyfranky:
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Oh my.......I did sell some and kept some.... BY MY CHOICE....It was running good.....Thought a dip was coming and figured it would go back up. MY CHOICE!!!!NOT FOT'S.....
And If newbies are playing without the knowledge of searching SEC filings, O/S's....etc. Placing all the blame on someone else for their lack of market knowledge makes sense?
THEY SHOULD NOT BE TRADING! GET EDUCATED!
I for one don't change the oil on my car.....I DON'T KNOW HOW!!! If I took the time to learn.....maybe I would...(no I wouldn't) but,.......the point stands.
Learn how to DD.........INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELVES!!!
Man o' Man..... Move on already!
So now it's the rookies fault they lost money correct? How about FO2 asking the correct questions when he gets the plays from the IR GUY. Rookies trust(ed) Fatherof2 because of the constant cheerleading by you Lil. They fall for the this is going to 1.00 pump and as they hold for that price they get r/s'ed and S8'ed
Yes it is their fault..... why is it FOT's or my or anyone elses responsibility to HOLD THEIR HANDS?
ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS ASK FOR HELP! I'll point anyone in the right direction (Have done it before) on tools to help them learn...
AGAIN! GET EDUCATED IN THE MARKET OR GET OUT!
Let me ask you something.. would it be FOT's responsibility if he didn't start the thread? What if he jumped in any thread and bought a stock.....WHO IS TO BLAME.....? FOT or the person that started the thread? OR THE ONE BUYING THE STOCK? Now get a life....and.... I never said it would go to a dollar.....With the float it had a good chance of hitting .05!
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
Freak! I was referring to the PM......That Momo said FOT sent him, yea, he didn't dr. that one up..........My GOODNESS.....GOOD NIGHT!
Thanks Kywee.... Good luck on your exam.
Posted by freakyfranky on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher:
quote:Originally posted by freakyfranky:
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Oh my.......I did sell some and kept some.... BY MY CHOICE....It was running good.....Thought a dip was coming and figured it would go back up. MY CHOICE!!!!NOT FOT'S.....
And If newbies are playing without the knowledge of searching SEC filings, O/S's....etc. Placing all the blame on someone else for their lack of market knowledge makes sense?
THEY SHOULD NOT BE TRADING! GET EDUCATED!
I for one don't change the oil on my car.....I DON'T KNOW HOW!!! If I took the time to learn.....maybe I would...(no I wouldn't) but,.......the point stands.
Learn how to DD.........INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELVES!!!
Man o' Man..... Move on already!
So now it's the rookies fault they lost money correct? How about FO2 asking the correct questions when he gets the plays from the IR GUY. Rookies trust(ed) Fatherof2 because of the constant cheerleading by you Lil. They fall for the this is going to 1.00 pump and as they hold for that price they get r/s'ed and S8'ed
Yes it is their fault..... why is it FOT's or my or anyone elses responsibility to HOLD THEIR HANDS?
ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS ASK FOR HELP! I'll point anyone in the right direction (Have done it before) on tools to help them learn...
AGAIN! GET EDUCATED IN THE MARKET OR GET OUT!
Let me ask you something.. would it be FOT's responsibility if he didn't start the thread? What if he jumped in any thread and bought a stock.....WHO IS TO BLAME.....? FOT or the person that started the thread? OR THE ONE BUYING THE STOCK? Now get a life....and.... I never said it would go to a dollar.....With the float it had a good chance of hitting .05!
You always look at the pumper (fatherof2) when it goes bad. He started the thread. Just as everyone blamed NEMO for WFTV. Fatherof2 failed to post that the company could of done a r/s at anytime. If he would of done so the people who got caught in it should of got caught. But because he didn't it shows he was hiding something and he happened to be away on busniess the same day the r/s happened. Yeah ok.. Lil I don't know you and for all I am concerned you are just a brown nose cheerleader and F02 tips you on a play and you get in when he gets in. Trust me people know whats going on and even the senior members are starting to talk about it. You guys are all momo haters and you stick together no matter what. You keep following F02 and you will have to move your cardboard box pretty soon. RAAAHHHH RAHHH RAHHHHH no F02 no LILbrownosepincher.
Posted by freakyfranky on :
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Freak! I was referring to the PM......That Momo said FOT sent him, yea, he didn't dr. that one up..........My GOODNESS.....GOOD NIGHT!
Thanks Kywee.... Good luck on your exam.
Yeah ok and you have a very dirty mouth for a female. Maybe your a male but you dress up like a female. Posted by kywee on :
your missing the point man. it was a tech play. if you invest into a penny your a dumbass. unless its AMEP of-course:) haha
night all
Posted by freakyfranky on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee: i am not on anyones side...but you all are missing some important things:
first of all this if what FOT said:
"From a tech perspective, the chart is looking good with the MACD crossing over and the RSI showing oversold."
now does that mean you hold it forever? no, he never once mentioned to hold it. its your fault if you hold for more than 3 days, or whatever your preference is.
you can say well the newbies dont know...well do you go skiing off the steepest cliff the first time, or base jump by yourself the first time? or maybe take a college exam without going to class? no! you ****ing learn! learn before you do it, or learn from EXPERIENCE and DONT bitch
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next...it was the PR (if you read it) that stated the 1-10. one thing i dont see is a shell getting filled. your to blame if you didnt see a mention about a shell
"Grand Lux, Inc. will be spinning out all current assets into Marinas International Inc. and will provide Grand Lux, Inc. shareholder a one (1) share dividend of Marinas International Inc., for every ten (10) shares of GRDX. The Marinas International Inc. new symbol and dates will be announced in the near future as they become available."
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the only thing that is fishy is the pms, but in reality, i would like to know who wouldnt want to combine to power houses for a huge run...
even if you wouldnt, just shut up, i cant believe im reading this **** the night before my exam...
Yeah you say that now after the fact. Sad to see you lose all your money like that because you could not read the S/8 Kywee none of Frontloadingof2 plays are 3 day holds. Everyone know's that. Everyone who post on this section of the site are for short/long term investing. The point is if you don't open your eyes and see what is going on you will get burned again. Lets say you put your money in ADDI. Then all of a sudden the pps goes down what will you say then? He failed to mention that the company will be adding shares soon. His plot is to get people in. If he did more DD he would see what the company has planned. I am sure if people knew GRDX had a r/s due they would of not jumped in. Everyone knows a stock that does a r/s has a small run before she does so.
Posted by kywee on :
i love how you keep saying i lost all of my money. first it was i told you i put $15,000 in this stock. now i lost all my money. hahahaha
Posted by freakyfranky on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee: your missing the point man. it was a tech play. if you invest into a penny your a dumbass. unless its AMEP of-course:) haha
night all
No alot of people invest in pennies and do very well. Before you invest in anything you need to look to see if company will be adding shares or r/s anytime soon. All of that info is there for you to read. Alot of these companies are just paper. No real CEO. Just someone with money and can front as they have a company but they don't Look at CNES. Company had a good sales pitch but as they released more and more PR they added more shares and look at where the pps is now... Reason why I and many others believe Fatherof2 is to blame is because he deals with IR firms. If he ask the correct questions he should be able to see if the play is a setup or not.
Posted by freakyfranky on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee: i love how you keep saying i lost all of my money. first it was i told you i put $15,000 in this stock. now i lost all my money. hahahaha
This is the first time we have spoke. I am guessing you believe I am momo. Go study for school young man and take your lunch money some place else.
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by freakyfranky:
quote:Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Freak! I was referring to the PM......That Momo said FOT sent him, yea, he didn't dr. that one up..........My GOODNESS.....GOOD NIGHT!
Thanks Kywee.... Good luck on your exam.
Yeah ok and you have a very dirty mouth for a female. Maybe your a male but you dress up like a female.
Dirty mouth? LOL
Oh yea, said the F word....FREAK!
But I flip this nicely! for a lady!
Posted by kywee on :
hey at least im studying and getting good grades and not bashing people over the internet. you might want to ask yourself who the kid is
Posted by freakyfranky on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee: hey at least im studying and getting good grades and not bashing people over the internet. you might want to ask yourself who the kid is
Don't be upset you lost 99% of your cash on GRDX. Unlike you I make money from my 9-5 and my 9:30-4pm (stocks).
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by freakyfranky:
quote:Originally posted by kywee: i am not on anyones side...but you all are missing some important things:
first of all this if what FOT said:
"From a tech perspective, the chart is looking good with the MACD crossing over and the RSI showing oversold."
now does that mean you hold it forever? no, he never once mentioned to hold it. its your fault if you hold for more than 3 days, or whatever your preference is.
you can say well the newbies dont know...well do you go skiing off the steepest cliff the first time, or base jump by yourself the first time? or maybe take a college exam without going to class? no! you ****ing learn! learn before you do it, or learn from EXPERIENCE and DONT bitch
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next...it was the PR (if you read it) that stated the 1-10. one thing i dont see is a shell getting filled. your to blame if you didnt see a mention about a shell
"Grand Lux, Inc. will be spinning out all current assets into Marinas International Inc. and will provide Grand Lux, Inc. shareholder a one (1) share dividend of Marinas International Inc., for every ten (10) shares of GRDX. The Marinas International Inc. new symbol and dates will be announced in the near future as they become available."
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the only thing that is fishy is the pms, but in reality, i would like to know who wouldnt want to combine to power houses for a huge run...
even if you wouldnt, just shut up, i cant believe im reading this **** the night before my exam...
Yeah you say that now after the fact. Sad to see you lose all your money like that because you could not read the S/8 Kywee none of Frontloadingof2 plays are 3 day holds. Everyone know's that. Everyone who post on this section of the site are for short/long term investing. The point is if you don't open your eyes and see what is going on you will get burned again. Lets say you put your money in ADDI. Then all of a sudden the pps goes down what will you say then? He failed to mention that the company will be adding shares soon. His plot is to get people in. If he did more DD he would see what the company has planned. I am sure if people knew GRDX had a r/s due they would of not jumped in. Everyone knows a stock that does a r/s has a small run before she does so.
FREAK! EVERYONE KNEW THE R/S WAS COMING DAYS BEFORE!!!! I'm done.... You are right.....I'm never going to play another FOT pick...I'm going to listen to you.. Anyone else I should not be playing? LOL
Posted by kywee on :
ill do the math for you
300/5000=.06x100=6% ehh 99% is a little off, sorry
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by freakyfranky:
quote:Originally posted by kywee: hey at least im studying and getting good grades and not bashing people over the internet. you might want to ask yourself who the kid is
Don't be upset you lost 99% of your cash on GRDX. Unlike you I make money from my 9-5 and my 9:30-4pm (stocks).
Don't pretend to know who lost or made what.. Leave the kid alone....Loser!
Kywee is right. Go home now little boy. and Nice to see you've posted some real MOVERS! A sad little man that hides behind a new name every night!
Posted by freakyfranky on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee: ill do the math for you
300/5000=.06x100=6% ehh 99% is a little off, sorry
lmao YEAH Ok YOU LOST 6% of your investment. No way that's possible the stock closed lower then it's low of 1 month and then it did a r/s I can see you need a math tutor...
Posted by kywee on :
gotta love this guy. he even posted in the amep thread!
"KYWEE putting the rest of your pennies you got from GRDX into this. I don't think even if this stock hit 2.00 you would make back 1/4 of what you lost on GRDX... Better take out a student loan.."
Posted by kywee on :
yea i did lol. i lost $300 on the play. i guess you have your crystal ball out tonight huh?
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
He's a DB....Kywee.. Imagine that his chat is full of senseless morons clinging to his every word....LOL
Go drink the koolaid...It would be less painful...
Posted by kywee on :
gotta love the koolaid...this is really fun, but i really need to study
Posted by lilpennypincher on :
quote:Originally posted by kywee: yea i did lol. i lost $300 on the play. i guess you have your crystal ball out tonight huh?
Can you see him at his computer trying to figure it out.....? LOL
Nite Kwyee...would love to stay up and finish this fun but, Got to make money tomorrow!
Posted by Upside on :
It seems Will and I started a war here with our discussion of FoT. Perhaps it should have been done through p/m's so all of this could have been avoided. I'll start out by saying that I've always been suspicious of his motives, especially a few months back when there seemed to be a concerted effort to run a number of stocks by a large group of people here. However, if you look at a lot of the plays, a lot of people made good money, rookies and vets alike. If a stock is being run or pumped, it's not necessarily a bad thing. Play right along, just learn how to do it. Watch for the signs that things are about to change, sell some of your position on the run up to recoup your investment and let the rest ride. Aside from that, research the hell out of any stock anyone posts, it's not difficult. If they're a filing company, go to sec.gov and read ALL of their current filings to see what's going on. If there's a lack of information, play it smart and get out after a decent gain. These stocks were made for flipping, not holding. Holding's a sure way to lose your investment. My point last night about posting your exits was met with some hostility and I fail to understand why. Whether you're running one or just following a group, what's wrong with a simple "enough for me, I'm out" comment? It'd help less experienced investors learn when it's time to bail and they'd become better investors for it. Lastly, I was in no way comparing FoT to Momo, they're two different breeds. Momo's a self serving animal. While FoT may have his own interests at heart, he's no where near the level of Momo.
Posted by HossTrader on :
Good lord. FreakyColdMomo doesn't have much of a life does he?
Anyone know how old he is? I know he comes across as a kid that is very impressed with himself.
Posted by FatherOfTwo on :
wow.. just read the last couple pages....
How funny this is!
MoMo's new name kinda reminds me of the retarded kid in the movie Something about Mary.....
"..beans and frank...beans and frank..."
as the old saying goes... arguing with MoMo is like the special olympics... no matter who wins....he is still retarded!
FYI.. MoMo... Yes I do call IR firms. I call to get info. I do not work for them. My real job is as an Engineer. I have Professional Engineering Licenses in 4 states, as well as a Top Secret Security Clearance for gov't work that I do.
I recommend that everyone here call the IR firms too. Please verify the information that I get. I know that others have called the ICMH CEO and received the same info. I spoke with PLNI IR Bill Howe back when it was .0028 and others here spoke with him too and received the exact same info. How is it that you claim that I work for an IR firm? I have all the same info you do. It is your decision along with everyone else here to act on it and call to verify as you see fit. I am kind enough to transcribe my phone conversations with company people as best as I can remember, and my memory is pretty damn good!
You too make the IR or CEO phone calls, because you too predict PR's coming out! I could accuse you of being a paid pumper/dumper, but I don't do that. Calling the IR to get some info, IMHO is a part of doing good DD.
I read many SEC filings everyday as part of my DD screens. BTW, ADDI went up today. And I believe it will go up more. Dilution is coming for ADDI, I won't deny that. I just don't think it will happen in the next couple days or couple weeks... but with all penny stocks, it is not a long term hold that I will be able to retire from! I see it realistically hitting .05+ if they announce the ad campaign details and the name of the national drugstore chain they will distribute through... that would be a 100-200% increase from where it is now!
Bash me all you want. Have your fun. Mimic me and twist everything I say to fit your purpose. No matter what you do or say, you can not hurt me. You reported that I was banned from stock hideout dot com.... well that is a lie. I have free reign to post there as I please! The moderators there know exactly where I work and what I do and they know that I am a stand up, honest and straight shooting guy. You however are banned.
Enough of my ranting for tonite! You are not worth the effort anymore! Good Riddance!
BTW.. I am going to start a new thread to see how many MoMo names we can come up with! That should be fun! Posted by Bearclaw on :
Folks... I got this PM last night from Momo...Just thought you would be interested...He must be desperate now to find more members on his site. He is really losing it... No one seems to be drinking the koolaide...
Author Topic: Just wanted to say.. freakyfranky Member posted September 27, 2005 11:21 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good night you bagholding white trash fag. I hope CNES r/s 1:1trillion on your dumbass. So happy you are losing and all your money is in that POS. Once they r/s I promise I will make your life a living hell. Good night pussylips -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 37 | From: belgium | Registered: Aug 2005
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
I think someone(momo) needs to pop in his Carebare movie for some love.
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