quote:Originally posted by FatherOfTwo: Per my conv w/ Doug, the switch revenue alone is estimated to be $6million annually. At a 50% profit margin, which is what I believe he told me, this puts earnings per share around .0075! Using a super conservative value of 5 for a multiplier, and you get .0375 pps, which is close to the .04-.08 pps range that Doug has said that they should be trading at! So you are ABSOLUTELY (using dougys famous word) correct in saying that this is undervalued.
What is a "conservative value of 5 for a multiplier"?
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I have a feeling about ICMH THURSDAYS!!!!! ICMH.PK = I CAN MAKE HIGH PROFITZ, KAH-BOOM!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by FatherOfTwo: Per my conv w/ Doug, the switch revenue alone is estimated to be $6million annually. At a 50% profit margin, which is what I believe he told me, this puts earnings per share around .0075! Using a super conservative value of 5 for a multiplier, and you get .0375 pps, which is close to the .04-.08 pps range that Doug has said that they should be trading at! So you are ABSOLUTELY (using dougys famous word) correct in saying that this is undervalued.
What is a "conservative value of 5 for a multiplier"?
different industry sectors have "multipliers" used to determine realative pps in relation to eps (earnings per share)... for example, the chemical industry/sector may have a 13 multiplier. Which means, if a Dow chemical or other chemical company has $2.00 earnings per share, then a target pps would be 13 times that or $26.00 pps.
Now, for some stocks that are speculative, the multiplier can be 20, 30 , 40 or even up to 100... The higher multipliers are usually given to speculative stocks that are just starting out but could have explosive growth rates, over the well established companies that have single digit growth.
So when I say a conservative multiplier of 5, this is a "conservative" means of determining approx pps target.
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quote:Originally posted by FatherOfTwo: different industry sectors have "multipliers" used to determine realative pps in relation to eps (earnings per share)... for example, the chemical industry/sector may have a 13 multiplier. Which means, if a Dow chemical or other chemical company has $2.00 earnings per share, then a target pps would be 13 times that or $26.00 pps.
Now, for some stocks that are speculative, the multiplier can be 20, 30 , 40 or even up to 100... The higher multipliers are usually given to speculative stocks that are just starting out but could have explosive growth rates, over the well established companies that have single digit growth.
So when I say a conservative multiplier of 5, this is a "conservative" means of determining approx pps target.
Thanks FOT.
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seriously, im losing my ass today, cmon ICMH bring me back up!
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quote:Originally posted by BigJohn: Anybody want to look into there crystal ball and estimate when we might see those levals?
Any idea when the switch may be in service and generating income?
Bowleg... YW...
BigJohn... the switch was supposed to be passing traffic as early as late last week or by this last Monday at the latest. When I spoke to Doug last week about this switch going Live, I asked him to release a PR about it and he said he would. I thought it was PR worthy as it shows REAL revenue being generated. He originally was not intending to PR it when it happened.
I have since left him a message, but he has not called me back! I may try him again later today or maybe tomorrow!
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AMEP, CWFG, ICMH .... the downward spiral continues. Am I just picking losers here, or is it a wider trend: Some international stock markets are hitting bottom -- Austrlia was at a 4-year low, etc. -- and even many of the "safer" stocks I own or I've been watching, following, reading about, etc., are all sliding down....
Winter is usually a great time for stocks, so here's hoping late Oct. and/or November see ICMH leap up. Anyone got odds on that?
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are you serious. october is notorious for having a terrible effect on stocks. read up man. thats why its so ironic that october is the month for all these stocks. in nominal terms, this stock began to be touted at the end of july, this same board brought it up to .0034, and we've never seen that since.
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FOT, you should lead a marketing crusade of this stock amongst other bulletin boards in the internet, and tell them all this stuff about the switch. With the low volume this thing trades on, we might get some price movement. Tell them about the undervaluedness and everything. I would do it myself but you have a flare at it.
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ed... thanks for the vote of confidence....
Others see it as pumping and they accuse me of dumping, being a paid stock promoter, amongst other things.
I am confident that this one will go soon. The support at 12 is looking good, and when the news comes, it will go. We have seen this jump 33% on 110k volume, so I agree, that when the news does come, and we get a little rise, then more daytraders will jump in a push it much higher than the .0025 level we have seen before!
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Out of curiosity, for those that have set sell orders, what are they at?
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I had a much larger position in this stock, I even talked to doug on the phone a couple weeks back as he sounded very excited about the month of October. I hate having money tied up.
FOT, take a look at QRVI it is a similar stock to ICMH with a higher upside and a smaller share structure. I think QRVI doubles and possibly triples by the end of next week as news is expected. Its about to break the 50 day MA and it has already broke the 200 day.
Might as well make some money while were waiting.
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eduardo86, et al ... I know that the late summer and fall (including October) are typically bad (although they've been much worse for me than I anticipated, since Jan.-July '05 were ALL wins for me, but late July-Oct. has wiped out almost every single ounce of my profit), but what I meant to say was that the winter months (Nov.-Feb.) are usually pretty good. So in anticipation of stocks going up in Nov.-Feb., people might start buying in during late October/early November, driving the price of this baby up. If the PR's we've been waiting for come eariler than that, all the better, but I'm not putting all my hope in that basket, despite the word that things are supposed to turn around for it Oct. But if October turns green ICMH, I won't complain!
Personally I'll probably try and sell the .002 or a a few ticks above at that point because I'm no longer in a position to gamble for a higher return. If some of my other stocks are looking up, though, I might stay in ICMH long, because I do see potential for much higher numbers in the future.
But if anyone has a better guess as to when we might turn around -- or the potential for an even bigger nose dive -- I'm all ears. ICMH and the other stocks I mentioned (and some others) have been selling below my buy in point for a while now, so my confidence is a bit shot. But I appreciate all the advice and news this forum has been providing.
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Alright lets hope for good friday! Maybe News??? Would be nice to finish week in the green. Especially since Doug said last friday or monday. This volume and PPS is overdue for news, Dougy!!!!
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Thats what happens, RICHARD waits forever to release news, people get inpatient, then he finally he releases something, and everyone is so happy to see any profits, sells immediately and thats why this thing never get momentum and takes of in 003s and higher. What happened to, "oh when I release this PR (that other company is stopping me from releasing) for next 2 weeks PRs will be flowing? what happened? I don't see nothing flowing. The only thing Isee flowing is our PPS down the toilet. Oh well, I'm just joining Maumee River Rat, in ranting. Where is Mrg8avill when you need him, he always had a pill for every ill to calm us down
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volume is only * 45,000... pps wll only go down the toilet if u buy into it and sell
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it would be stupid to sell, its just low volume drop, and now it's low volume up, to 13... none of this mean anything, except its nicer to see us green and not .0011
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quote:Originally posted by Vlad4: Thats what happens, RICHARD waits forever to release news, people get inpatient, then he finally he releases something, and everyone is so happy to see any profits, sells immediately and thats why this thing never get momentum and takes of in 003s and higher. What happened to, "oh when I release this PR (that other company is stopping me from releasing) for next 2 weeks PRs will be flowing? what happened? I don't see nothing flowing. The only thing Isee flowing is our PPS down the toilet. Oh well, I'm just joining Maumee River Rat, in ranting. Where is Mrg8avill when you need him, he always had a pill for every ill to calm us down
I've been wondering about margr8avil also. Hopefully he is sitting on a beach sipping a margarita and he's not missing because he lost his shorts on IGTN.
I think Doug has really screwed PPS. He was hyping this WAY too far in advance. He was either EXTREMELY overly optimistic or just lying through his teeth.
How can someone do business like that? I asked him about the web site 2 months ago. I didn't identify myself as a customer or an investor, etc. He told me it would be up in two weeks. That leads me to believe that he is treating his customers the same way he is treating his investors. That is a very poor way to run a business. A successful businessman would earn your trust by giving you reliable info. Doug's habit of blowing smoke and hot air has ruined his credibility and it can't be good for business.
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