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Polo - yeh I can see that but i wish they could work there way up to being a premium channel, and sorry for the double post my browser was locked up.
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Patience...that is what I have been preaching for quite a long time. I think alot of people that bought this stock thought it would go up as soon as it hit the "airwaves"...and it didn't. "Quality work takes time"...and I honestly believe that since Frank caught the "foot in mouth disease" years back, I don't think he wants to contract it again.
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I have total faith in Frank; I wouldn’t have this huge number of shares if I didn’t. I don’t think Frank wants to spend his time taking on the bashers. He has far more important things to do. I think that he will wait for the audit to be complete so there is no doubt with any of these issues. I think Frank would be open to legal ramifications if he gave out numbers. I’m no lawyer; but I would let the audit talk for me. These are my opinions only. There seems to be issues with manipulation and that is why Frank hired investigators. Frank has built one hell of a good company; a scam artist would never put one tenth the effort and resources into it as Frank has. The time of the greedy ones is fast approaching an end.
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you might as well stop right there. U4 is only here for one reason. he wants the price down as low as possible as he is loading up on this as we speak. dont tell me im wrong as i have been in communications with him in the last couple of weeks and can prove my statements.
U4 is not concerned about us one bit, he is a sneaky underhanded person that doesn't care who he screws out of their money as long as he gets what he wants.
Don't stoop that low you are not that naive and you know better then that.
You can be a decent person when you want to be but dont sell your soul to gain a few bucks, do it the way the rest of us will.
This is a good investment and there is not a single person on the planet earth that can convince me of anything different.
You really need to get back on the other side of the fence, as the side your on right now is not going to do you any good.
Use your head and look at what is happening.
You are just upset right now that your stock has dropped so low. but hey you are not the only one.
Those patient enough to wait on the good things that are happening now will be rewarded.
Rod
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quote:Originally posted by buckwheatbob: I would be more inclined to go along with the great U4 and he says:
Buckwheat, please quit living in the past. Just because a current basher used to be a shareholder doesn't affirm that he is paid to do it now. U4 only comments here cause he got BURNED on this stock and wants to warn the rest of you. I got burned too. I still hold shares, I still hope that Frank will quit being mean, but he basically stole this money from us, and continues to do so every day.
I can prove Frank is diluting by pointing to a falling PPS. Hell, I'm willing to give my name to Frank for him to sue me if he'd like to send me an email at g-invest-at-gravito-dot-com for saying that I believe that the falling PPS is proof he is diluting. Since he won't comment on the dilution issue (a good move on his part) it must mean he is hoping more individuals will be dumb enough to buy.
We, as investors, need to be telling him to quit diluting, finish the audit, and publish the oustanding share count immediately.
To do anything else, is pumping a decrepit stock.
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Personally, I'm glad it's a premium channel.
I believe that Q Television plans to provide the Gay Games free to everyone on the cable system. (Sort of like HBO has those free preview days).
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i again, got to experience a lot of the trading day (about 2 hours) and again noticed a difference...
before the MM were evenly spreading out the buys with sells, but today we were back to trading like we had 2 months ago...where you would see tons and tons of buys in a row...dont know what it was, but if it were my guess its either MM covering or doing something with their nakeds, or somebody with inside info buying in before a major PR tommorrow....
it more than likely was not retail investors for the most part because we have all realized who was gonna sell and who was gonna hold...there are no new traders/investors in our company, so something is up
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That seems like a good strategy sweetness, but I have actually never seen it done. Has it been? I haven't been around long enough I suppose to see a free HBO or anything like that, so I assumed they found their place ahead of time.
If it provides any comfort, Q is supposed to air in over 100 markets during the Gay Games in Chicago. They will do so by unscramble their feed. I assume this will allow them to be viewed by anyone who has cable through cable providers that carry Q. I also assume they will only be on cable, but maybe they are trying to work deals with local channls. Who knows, but that could provide a HUGE amount of exposure.
quote:Originally posted by sweetness34: Polo - yeh I can see that but i wish they could work there way up to being a premium channel, and sorry for the double post my browser was locked up.
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quote:Originally posted by 4Art: Yes. As Jen has said, if Frank is off by even one share, he opens himself and QBID up to bashers. Plus, waiting for the audit results will make the official share count that much more effective, IMO. Patience is key.
quote:Originally posted by polo1110: Is there a strategy involved in not releasing these numbers until after the audit if they DO know the exact numbers already?
The only reason we have institutional interest is because Frank does know the share count, showed it to them & outlined his plans.
quote:Originally posted by whizknock: The only reason we have institutional interest is because Frank does know the share count, showed it to them & outlined his plans.
quote:Originally posted by 4Art: It's exciting, Whizknock!
quote:Originally posted by whizknock: The only reason we have institutional interest is because Frank does know the share count, showed it to them & outlined his plans.
Matter of time. Nothing more, nothing less!
Yes!
Frank has released a bunch of PRs recently which verifies that he's finished his latest buyback.
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Thanks Jen. I am still curious to know if there are any legal remification, but I understand why he would wait. I guess I'm having more trouble accepting this than most due to the fact that I have working for two different accounting firms, and have never met a business owner that couldn't pull out his books and easily determine how many shares of stock were out there. Avoiding another major slip up like a few years ago would cause me to wait also, I suppose.
quote:Originally posted by Jennifercd10: I have total faith in Frank; I wouldn’t have this huge number of shares if I didn’t. I don’t think Frank wants to spend his time taking on the bashers. He has far more important things to do. I think that he will wait for the audit to be complete so there is no doubt with any of these issues. I think Frank would be open to legal ramifications if he gave out numbers. I’m no lawyer; but I would let the audit talk for me. These are my opinions only. There seems to be issues with manipulation and that is why Frank hired investigators. Frank has built one hell of a good company; a scam artist would never put one tenth the effort and resources into it as Frank has. The time of the greedy ones is fast approaching an end.
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Q is setting up very very nice for a chart run,, and if Frank has everything in order, tuesday morning (biggest day for PR's for Q) would be the perfect time to realease a monster PR...
but anyways, the chart set up perfectly today...closed at a doji yesterday and broke that upper doji today and closed with strong buying pressure
MACD has just crossed showing reversal in progress and the SAR is getting ready to bottom and say buy...
RSI is at 50 (i would like it lower) but is in a good range and pointing up
FULL STOCH, just boucing off bottom and pointing up
Volume is incresing steadily on uptrend past couple days which is a strong bullish trend and i would love to see breakout volume tommorrow..(very interesting to see the 1B vol day 4 days ago, and how volume proceeds price...)
EVEN BETTER is bill panetta has now put Q on his bottom busters list and i fully expect them to trade this on the way up...i will speak with Bill hopefully this afternoon to see his thoughts, and watch for a buy confirmed on the bulls tonight...
resistence at .0019
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Volume is incresing steadily on uptrend past couple days which is a strong bullish trend and i would love to see breakout volume tommorrow..(very interesting to see the 1B vol day 4 days ago, and how volume proceeds price...)
Frank can pull out his books and easily determine how many shares of stock are out there.
He's just waiting for the audit completion to make this information public. Okay?
quote:Originally posted by polo1110: Thanks Jen. I am still curious to know if there are any legal remification, but I understand why he would wait. I guess I'm having more trouble accepting this than most due to the fact that I have working for two different accounting firms, and have never met a business owner that couldn't pull out his books and easily determine how many shares of stock were out there. Avoiding another major slip up like a few years ago would cause me to wait also, I suppose.
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On that topic -- has anyone seen "Over There?" I can't BELIEVE they are doing that on a basic tier cable station (FX). You've got tons of hardcore bad words, and gore all over the place (really, really graphic stuff).
I don't know it there is any backlash about it, but I was preety shocked to see it. Odd how 15 seconds of the more tame scenes in "Queer as Folk" or even "Six Feet Under" would probably raise more of a fuss than a whole season of "Over There."
quote:Originally posted by polo1110: Sweetness, I think Q wants to be premium so they can avoid the constraints of the FCC. Due to the fact that this is for the GLBT audience, I wouldn't be surprised if the FCC isn't watching very closely (and we will find out for sure if LOGO airs anything controversial as they are a basic channel).
quote:Originally posted by sweetness34: I have a question that I am hoping someone can shed some light on. This is kind of off topic but I have been thinking about it for awhile. With this being the first GLTV network I would think that Frank would want to include QTV as part of basic cable / satellite package instead of charging a premium? (Maybe he has tried this already and the providers won’t do it) I know that by charging for the service you are bringing in revenue but I would think that you are also preventing allot of people from viewing your network. MTV, CNN, MSNBC, SPIKE, BET, etc... You don't have to pay a premium for those channels. I have been following the board for quite a while and have never seen this topic discussed, if it has been talked about before I apologize.
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Heads up! for the past couple of months it has been behaving much like it did in February 2004 when it rose in three successive runs from .0001 to .028!
The obvious difference is that this time we're looking at .0014 as a baseline.
Do not get discouraged if we only run to .006 on the first run. Watch it drop back to the mid threes before going through a penny. Then if there's a third run,,,
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Hmmmmm then you are just a disturbed individual that has invested more then he can afford to loose. and now you are crapping your pants in fears and this type of BS that you post is a false sense of security,
please dont try to insult our intelligence by telling us that you dont own any of this marvelous stock as no one spends this much time in a chat room that they have no interest in.
plain and simple, anyone that posts in these rooms owns the stock or is looking to buy in. NO EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RULE no matter what they try to tell you.
why would anyone spend time here if they could be looking into an investment that they think could make them some money.
dont be fooled by the fools.
Rod
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quote:Originally posted by whizknock: Heads up! for the past couple of months it has been behaving much like it did in February 2004 when it rose in three successive runs from .0001 to .028!
The obvious difference is that this time we're looking at .0014 as a baseline.
Do not get discouraged if we only run to .006 on the first run. Watch it drop back to the mid threes before going through a penny. Then if there's a third run,,,
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American Bulls is still floating a BUY-IF. Not that it REALLY matters, but tripping a buy there is always good for a little interest, and could "break these chains"
Barcharts is still 20%Sell/25%Sell/100%Sell/48%Sell
so we have a ways to go there, but I am sure these little ticks aren't hurting. Going back to the SGI thing I was in a few weeks ago -- Barcharts was practically begging you to sell... now, it is 60%/50%/33%/66% Buy almost entirely a tick at a time.
For dummies like me who think a Doji is a place where they wear funny robes and hit each other a lot, chart sites can be a good draw.
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yes thats right..ahahhaahah
Q is setting up very very nice for a chart run,, and if Frank has everything in order, tuesday morning (biggest day for PR's for Q) would be the perfect time to realease a monster PR...
but anyways, the chart set up perfectly today...closed at a doji yesterday and broke that upper doji today and closed with strong buying pressure
MACD has just crossed showing reversal in progress and the SAR is getting ready to bottom and say buy...
RSI is at 50 (i would like it lower) but is in a good range and pointing up
FULL STOCH, just boucing off bottom and pointing up
Volume is incresing steadily on uptrend past couple days which is a strong bullish trend and i would love to see breakout volume tommorrow..(very interesting to see the 1B vol day 4 days ago, and how volume proceeds price...)
EVEN BETTER is bill panetta has now put Q on his bottom busters list and i fully expect them to trade this on the way up...i will speak with Bill hopefully this afternoon to see his thoughts, and watch for a buy confirmed on the bulls tonight...
Why are you always getting upset with these altruistic people that are here to save our wallets and our lives from the evil that is Frank? Shouldnt we be nice to them and kiss up to their superior intellect and knowledge?? They obviously know more than we do.
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And they care so much about us too! That's why they are so polite! /sarcasm off LOL
quote:Originally posted by Ligge: Rod,
Why are you always getting upset with these altruistic people that are here to save our wallets and our lives from the evil that is Frank? Shouldnt we be nice to them and kiss up to their superior intellect and knowledge?? They obviously know more than we do.
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Let me put it this way. Say I give you a big jar. Then I give you 5 large bags of bubble gum balls. Each bag says that there are 500 bubble gum balls in each bag. You put the gum in the jar. Now it is time for people to guess how many pieces are in the jar. Also, if you are wrong about the number of pieces, I tell you that you will get sued and there is a 90% probility that you will lose if you are sued.
But here is the caviat: If they guess and the peices are counted and you think there are 2500 pieces but there really are 2501 pieces. Somebody guesses 2500, somebody guesses 2501. You give a prize to the guy who guessed 2500. 2501 protests and forces a count of the gum. There are 2501. Both guys sue you. You lose because you didn't count the gum. You trusted what the bag said.
quote:Originally posted by polo1110: PT, I don't think I made it clear in my last post as I was scolding Q for forgetting the O/S count, but... Is there a strategy involved in not releasing these numbers until after the audit if they DO know the exact numbers already? This is for anyone by the way, not just PT. I am just at a loss myself right now.
quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: Who ever said that Frank doesnt know the O/S
dont be fools. He may not know the exact number to a t but he knows close enought to the nearest million or so and can figure out close enough to the 53%. ne never said he didnt know the O/S, he said he would not release those numbers till the official audit is done.
Rod
quote:Originally posted by denzen: FURTHER, HOW CAN FRAUDSTER RESTRICT 53% OF THE STOCK IF HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE SHARE COUNT IS UNTIL THE "INVESTIGATORS" GET DONE DOING WHAT THEY DO?
BINGO!!!
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ok let me put it this way. can you tell me with out looking, how much money you have in your chequing account right down to the dollars and cents.
I know roughtly with in several dollars whats in mine but i cant tell you exactly.
so what is so odd to think that Frank knows to the closet million, but not 100% accuracy. you got to remember there where shares out there in this shell when they bought it.
it would be impossible to know the exact count without a professional audit.
So yes i do believe that Frank knows close to what they ahave out but not entirely.
Rod
quote:Originally posted by polo1110: I mostly agree PT, but do you think he really does not know the EXACT number? I just do not understand this strategy of not releasing the number, and if they have "misplaced" the number I think they should be emberassed.
quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: Who ever said that Frank doesnt know the O/S
dont be fools. He may not know the exact number to a t but he knows close enought to the nearest million or so and can figure out close enough to the 53%. ne never said he didnt know the O/S, he said he would not release those numbers till the official audit is done.
Rod
quote:Originally posted by denzen: FURTHER, HOW CAN FRAUDSTER RESTRICT 53% OF THE STOCK IF HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE SHARE COUNT IS UNTIL THE "INVESTIGATORS" GET DONE DOING WHAT THEY DO?
BINGO!!!
dz
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Further on that do you think they would pay an auditor if they did know the exact number?
Rod
quote:Originally posted by polo1110: I mostly agree PT, but do you think he really does not know the EXACT number? I just do not understand this strategy of not releasing the number, and if they have "misplaced" the number I think they should be emberassed.
quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: Who ever said that Frank doesnt know the O/S
dont be fools. He may not know the exact number to a t but he knows close enought to the nearest million or so and can figure out close enough to the 53%. ne never said he didnt know the O/S, he said he would not release those numbers till the official audit is done.
Rod
quote:Originally posted by denzen: FURTHER, HOW CAN FRAUDSTER RESTRICT 53% OF THE STOCK IF HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE SHARE COUNT IS UNTIL THE "INVESTIGATORS" GET DONE DOING WHAT THEY DO?
BINGO!!!
dz
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if he went that route he would have to follow guidelines that would restrict what topics they could cover. The way he is going about it is that he will only have his channel into the livingrooms of those that invite him.
this way no one can complain about the content being in thier houses uninvited and thus limits the backlash from christian groups. easy arguement to them is you dont like the channel dont pay for it.
Rod
quote:Originally posted by sweetness34: I have a question that I am hoping someone can shed some light on. This is kind of off topic but I have been thinking about it for awhile. With this being the first GLTV network I would think that Frank would want to include QTV as part of basic cable / satellite package instead of charging a premium? (Maybe he has tried this already and the providers won’t do it) I know that by charging for the service you are bringing in revenue but I would think that you are also preventing allot of people from viewing your network. MTV, CNN, MSNBC, SPIKE, BET, etc... You don't have to pay a premium for those channels. I have been following the board for quite a while and have never seen this topic discussed, if it has been talked about before I apologize.
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the way i think about it, is that for some of these Q shareholders who doubt and call everything Frank says a lie,---why dont you guys just sell....
Let me put it this way---if ANY Q shareholder believes that Q is diluting than you should sell right here, because if we cannot trust Franks verbal word, than there is no need for you to be trusting his management...
with the o/s issue, for gosh sakes, would people understand that this is a business..not a pink sheet game....Frank has created a company, and yes he wants to please his shareholders, but he also wants to do everything the right way...yes polo, he may be able to post the o/s numbers now and not get in trouble, but why risk it a week or two or three early??there is NO point..if you do not trust him, i really feel bad...
Frank has made mistakes only because he trys to hard to please his shareholders and tells to much and throws out exact dates...he has learned from his mistakes, and i really hope he doesnt do it again...Frank, IMO, has done a great job and his results speak for himself...he is not in this to scam people out of money, he is in this because he is gay and this has been his dream...
so would you monday morning ceos just either sell and forgettaboutit or just sit back, relax, grab a drink, and let Q show you the way
(sorry i had to say it and hopefully it isnt to harsh,,just been building up for a while..ahahah..i feel better..ahahah)
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quote:Originally posted by mrgr8avill: American Bulls is still floating a BUY-IF. Not that it REALLY matters, but tripping a buy there is always good for a little interest, and could "break these chains"
Barcharts is still 20%Sell/25%Sell/100%Sell/48%Sell
so we have a ways to go there, but I am sure these little ticks aren't hurting. Going back to the SGI thing I was in a few weeks ago -- Barcharts was practically begging you to sell... now, it is 60%/50%/33%/66% Buy almost entirely a tick at a time.
For dummies like me who think a Doji is a place where they wear funny robes and hit each other a lot, chart sites can be a good draw.
quote:Originally posted by MillerTIME: CHART TIME----
yes thats right..ahahhaahah
Q is setting up very very nice for a chart run,, and if Frank has everything in order, tuesday morning (biggest day for PR's for Q) would be the perfect time to realease a monster PR...
but anyways, the chart set up perfectly today...closed at a doji yesterday and broke that upper doji today and closed with strong buying pressure
MACD has just crossed showing reversal in progress and the SAR is getting ready to bottom and say buy...
RSI is at 50 (i would like it lower) but is in a good range and pointing up
FULL STOCH, just boucing off bottom and pointing up
Volume is incresing steadily on uptrend past couple days which is a strong bullish trend and i would love to see breakout volume tommorrow..(very interesting to see the 1B vol day 4 days ago, and how volume proceeds price...)
EVEN BETTER is bill panetta has now put Q on his bottom busters list and i fully expect them to trade this on the way up...i will speak with Bill hopefully this afternoon to see his thoughts, and watch for a buy confirmed on the bulls tonight...
resistence at .0019
the ************* doesnt update it until about 6:00...yes it was a buy if yesterday, so we will see today..its about 50/50, but a buy confirmed would look nice
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quote:Originally posted by polo1110: . . . I don't think I made it clear in my last post as I was scolding Q for forgetting the O/S count, but... Is there a strategy involved in not releasing these numbers until after the audit if they DO know the exact numbers already? This is for anyone by the way, not just PT. I am just at a loss myself right now.
polo I don't think it is logical to assume Frank "is not doing a good job" because he doesn't share every detail of his business with us. Does he know the current sharecount? Probably. Does he have an obligation to share this information with the world? No. Does he have good reasons for not sharing this information? Probably. So let him do his job. He certainly knows how to do it better than any of us.
I understand that everyone handles stress differently, so I will not criticize your comments. I think you believe in QBID (and in Frank) but lately you are letting the "unknown" distort your vision. If you really are concerned about your investment in QBID, you have to decide what is best for you. No one else can make the decision for you, and some people on this board would like you to do the "wrong" thing.
Many posters seem to think we can determine QBID's progress by asking questions, contacting the SEC and doing a lot of whining on message boards. But Frank is in charge of QBID's success, and the PPS will be a reaction to that success. So I intend to let him alone . . . unless he calls for advice.
Next time you have a "concern" about Frank and QBID, read this part of the Serenity Prayer: "GOD, grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can and the Wisdom to know the difference."
I CANNOT change the way Frank is conducting business (even if I wanted to) and I CANNOT change the PPS (even though I wish I could) . . . and the only thing I CAN change is how many shares I own. And that decision is totally mine.
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