quote:Originally posted by pennypoor: I contact Ludlow Capital to verify Q's press release and here is the email I received back.
Ludlow Capital Begins Research Ratings on Select Small-Cap Issues....... http:// www. wallstreetnewscast . com/reports/
If you go to the site you will see QBID there but you need a subscription to see what they say. I don't have a subscription to the above web site so if someone in here does and would like to keep us updated with what they say that would be great.
Go back a few pages, the entire QBID report has been posted and reposted on this thread 3-4 times. I would expect the same with any further reports too.
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Ludlow Capital, Inc. 256 Seaman Ave, Suite #5A New York, NY 10034 Phone (646) 670-6494 Fax: (212) 202-3504 E-mail: info@ludlowcapital.com
Q Television Network (OTCPK:QBID) Date of this Report: Aug. 05, 2005 Current Stock Price: .0014
Current Rating: C+
About Q Television
This 24/7 premium television network is organized to create, develop and feature television programming for the gay and lesbian community, including live & interactive content every weeknight, plus sports, information and entertainment. While the company expects much of its subscriber base to be comprised of members of the gay and lesbian population, management also believes that quality programming about the gay and lesbian experience, designed to entertain, educate and inform, will attract many other segments of the viewing public. The company's programming is available on a subscription basis to those desiring to subscribe. The network is telecast 24 hours per day, 7 days per week. Providing distribution via satellite ensures availability of the network across the United States, including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico. Q Television Network is the official network of Gay Games® VII. The network is also ad-supported.
L U D L OW C A P I T A L, I N C.
FALL 2005 LINE-UP
Some of the programs Q Television will be broadcasting are Q on the Move, In Foqus, Women on Women, and On Q Live. Also included in this Fall season will be such ground-breaking shows as "Queer Edge", "Gay Court," "Flesh and Threads," "Q on Broadway," "It's A Drag," "On the Road to the Gay Games" and the country's first gay morning news and entertainment show, "Brunch."
STRONG POINTS
Some of the strong points to QBID is the attractiveness of their business model, and attempts to restructure the stock. QBID’s concept of offering one of the first Gay and Lesbian TV Channel is an idea that is long over due. The ability for Q Television Network to generate month revenue for recurring subscriptions to the channel, and the attraction of advertisers who wish to target that explosive demographic makes Q Television one of the new cutting edge companies trading on the small-cap market. Not only would this targeted demographic bring immediate revenues to Q Television top line, but it could go a long way in bringing in a new crop of investors interested in this business model and lifestyle as potential shareholders.
The Company announced back on July 22, 2005 the launch of their Q Television Network in Maine, on the Time Warner Cable systems.
QBID recently announced a 53% reduction in the Companies tradable float, which could go a long way in giving QBID more upside movement as news rolls out. Frank Olsen, the President of Q Television Network recently commented, “We converted QBID shares into preferred stock, eliminating fifty-three percent of the tradable outstanding shares. We are confident this will strengthen the demand for our stock, and dry up the supply of trading shares that we feel are being manipulated in the market. Converting our common stock into preferred stock will allow us to retain voting rights, but will also squeeze out the large short position in the stock.
WEAK POINTS
The weak points to QBID are really the same for most small micro cap stocks. One of the main issues we see preventing new & institutional investors is the lack of transparency, and audited financials. The Company is currently in the process of finalizing their financial audits, which would go a long way in making QBID a more liquid issue, and would surely make us consider raising QBID a full grade up to B+.
As a non-reporting Pink Sheet issue, investors can only guess on the true current shares outstanding, and any potential liabilities that may be hanging over the Company. Until audits are completed, we would caution investors to wait on the wings till an independent audit review can be released to the public.
Another potential weak point for QBID is the possibility of competition from other well back networks wishing to jump in to this growing and lucrative market. As long as QBID can keep launching on new Channels they will have an even greater & greater chance of making it as a standard Channel for the Gay & Lesbian community, which also may make QBID an attractive acquisition target to potential bigger players.
SUMMARY
QBID has a great business model, which they seem to be executing now as a real broadcast entity. Though, the hang-over of still being a non-reporting and transparent Pink Sheet issue makes us wary of giving this growing Company a higher ranking at this time. Continued launching of new Channels, and the completion of independent audits would surely make us consider raising QBID ranking one full grade in the future. But, at this current time we have to give QBID a current grade of C+, but with the potential of improvement if the following points are fulfilled.
(NOTE: Ludlow Capital will be regularly updating our research grade on this company from time to time through the year as events unfold. We encourage you to check back regularly, and to tell a friend about our ranking grade)
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quote:Originally posted by pennypoor: If you go to the site you will see QBID there but you need a subscription to see what they say. I don't have a subscription to the above web site so if someone in here does and would like to keep us updated with what they say that would be great.
quote:Originally posted by buckwheatbob: I would be more inclined to go along with the great U4 and he says:
Buckwheat, please quit living in the past. Just because a current basher used to be a shareholder doesn't affirm that he is paid to do it now. U4 only comments here cause he got BURNED on this stock and wants to warn the rest of you. I got burned too. I still hold shares, I still hope that Frank will quit being mean, but he basically stole this money from us, and continues to do so every day.
I can prove Frank is diluting by pointing to a falling PPS. Hell, I'm willing to give my name to Frank for him to sue me if he'd like to send me an email at g-invest-at-gravito-dot-com for saying that I believe that the falling PPS is proof he is diluting. Since he won't comment on the dilution issue (a good move on his part) it must mean he is hoping more individuals will be dumb enough to buy.
We, as investors, need to be telling him to quit diluting, finish the audit, and publish the oustanding share count immediately.
To do anything else, is pumping a decrepit stock.
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Absolutely correct g. Almost two hundred million shares traded today.. the overwhelming majority of which were buys and no move at all. This means demand is high... this also means supply is near limitless. Frank is dilluting on a daily basis. Sooner or later there will be a SEC investigation unless he stops pumping out shares.
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quote:Originally posted by buckwheatbob: I would be more inclined to go along with the great U4 and he says:
Buckwheat, please quit living in the past. Just because a current basher used to be a shareholder doesn't affirm that he is paid to do it now. U4 only comments here cause he got BURNED on this stock and wants to warn the rest of you. I got burned too. I still hold shares, I still hope that Frank will quit being mean, but he basically stole this money from us, and continues to do so every day.
I can prove Frank is diluting by pointing to a falling PPS. Hell, I'm willing to give my name to Frank for him to sue me if he'd like to send me an email at g-invest-at-gravito-dot-com for saying that I believe that the falling PPS is proof he is diluting. Since he won't comment on the dilution issue (a good move on his part) it must mean he is hoping more individuals will be dumb enough to buy.
We, as investors, need to be telling him to quit diluting, finish the audit, and publish the oustanding share count immediately.
To do anything else, is pumping a decrepit stock.
Your proof of dilution is the PPS? Wow. And to think I actually respected your posts at one time.
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quote:QBID recently announced a 53% reduction in the Companies tradable float, which could go a long way in giving QBID more upside movement as news rolls out. Frank Olsen, the President of Q Television Network recently commented, “We converted QBID shares into preferred stock, eliminating fifty-three percent of the tradable outstanding shares. We are confident this will strengthen the demand for our stock, and dry up the supply of trading shares that we feel are being manipulated in the market. Converting our common stock into preferred stock will allow us to retain voting rights, but will also squeeze out the large short position in the stock."
Apparently, you don't understand what this really means. It means that Frank hit the 50 billion authorized shares limit, putting the OS at 100 - 53 = 47% of 50 billion = 23.5 billion. Since he now dissolved his 53% of the OS, that means he can use what used to be his stock to diluted with!
With the current dilution, that means that we are probably at 24 to 25 billion for the OS right now. In fact, I will say it with authority and Frank can contact me if he would to prove otherwise: g-invest at gravito dot com. QBID's current OS is likely 24 billion and growing.
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quote:Originally posted by Pennies to Dollars: Your proof of dilution is the PPS? Wow. And to think I actually respected your posts.
Yes it is.
If you can provide clear and conclusive evidence as to why someone would sell at .0013 just two days after an announcement that QBID is signed with Time Warner, then please enlighten us. I can tell you the type of person that would sell into that, and he's a big fat gay guy named Frank. He's jolly as hell, but be wary of investing in his ventures.
This stock is the only stock I'm in that hits new LOWs on a day-to-day basis. It even hits 52-week-lows on PR days for christ's sakes!
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quote:Originally posted by Rizzo: might want to up that number a little g. more like a hundred billion.
If you have proof, I'd be willing to look at it, but I'm not going on suppositions. As far as I know, you're a basher without a brain and a wit, and I'd just as soon have both pumpers and bashers hating me than make a comment on something I can't back up or support.
Was the A/S count raised to 100 billion and I didn't hear about this when I called the secretary of state in WA?
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just going by trading activity alone. They called me a basher when I said CMKX had well over 500 billion shares a couple years ago. Trying to use your method to figure out how many shares QBID has is flawed because Frank lies.
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Know what, G, I ripped you a new one this morning on another thread, and I am going to publicly apologize to you in this one. Your post makes sense.
Before everybody goes tearing me up, remember my emotional position in this company and the fact that I own a bunch of shares myself. But, if you take your heart out of it for a moment...
1) We all agree that volume has been through the roof, and have all been perplexed about why positive news and high volume did not translate into increased PPS...
2) This is a pink, and pinks (in general -- nothing specific) are notorious for providing information in a creative way to their retail investors.
So, we have two scenarios as to why this is happening:
1) A conspiracy to undermine the price of QBID through fraudulent share transfers and naked shorting, or
2) A dilution by management
If you believe #1, then the recent PR and investigation is a clear smoke and mirrors method of turning attention away from the dilution and provides a convenient way to further delay the audit until some other form of capital can be raised and the shares re-purchased.
If you believe #2, then the investigation is a positive move to catch criminals and immoral buggers and in doing so return a good company to its rightful value.
Which one is more plausible than the other? In Pinkieland, who is really to say -- from a purely objective POV, who is to say?
One thing that does not help if the lack of information pertaining to OS. The issue has been hashed a thousand times (by myself included), and I am among those who believe that the information should be disclosed immediately if not sooner, and I don't fully get the whole "let's wait for the audit" thing.
I am not saying either scenario is true, I am not calling anybody names for believing one way or the other, and I am not selling my shares. I am, though, just pointing out that either scenario is believable until more information is disclosed.
And again, G -- I may or may not agree with you, but I do apologize for the personal attack from this morning -- it's really not in my nature to be nasty (sarcastic yup but nasty no). Bad weekend and bad morning.
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G -- I wrote my apology after reading your orignal post here this morning, which was polite and well thought. Now I see it is getting nasty, so I want to clarify WHEN I was writing that last post of mine.
I still feel badly for tearing into you, but I probably wouldn't have said it so strongly if I had read the "FAT GUY" blah blah blah..
I was trying to keep a reasonable level of dialogue, but now I apologize to the board and hope that they don't think I was endorsing this kind of crap.
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Monday, May 02, 2005 Q Television Hires CPA Firm to Complete Financial Audit "We feel this audit is a huge milestone for our company, and that ultimately, if Q Television Network files all financials/reports publicly, we will eliminate the manipulation that our company and many Pink Sheets stocks face," stated Frank Olsen, President and CEO of Q Television Network.
Friday, July 29, 2005 Q Television Network Takes Proactive Steps to Increase Shareholder Value "We are going to implement a full market strategy that we have developed to directly address these manipulation issues."
QBID Hires a Team to Investigate Stock Manipulation Business Wire - August 04, 2005 14:12 "We will be able to determine how many legal shares exist in the market place,..."
...the only way "to determine how many legal shares exist" is to state how many shares were issued--as they are the ONLY legal shares.
"and any inappropriate trading will be dealt with by the regulatory agencies."
...not until share counts are known. a regulatory agency (sec, atty's genl, etc) has no impropriety to investigate without some actual knowledge or evidence of a crime or unlawful act. tmm can't do anything about, and in fact is aiding, illegal naked shorting by not releasing issued and outstanding share information.
...IF there is any manipulation (illegal naked shorting), it can continue until the actual issued shares number is known--when shorts would have to start covering.
how can you know if there are too many shares out there if you don't know how many there were (issued) to start??
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Every CEO on this planet knows exactly how many shares were issued. Most of these pinkie companies act like it is some monumental challenge to figure out how many shares they issued. Maybe Frank lost the napkin he wrote it down on. easy solution... call his TA and ask. They will know. They won't tell us but they will tell Frank. Doesn't it concern anyone just a little that Frank is this disorganized?
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quote:Originally posted by Pennies to Dollars: Your proof of dilution is the PPS? Wow. And to think I actually respected your posts.
Yes it is.
If you can provide clear and conclusive evidence as to why someone would sell at .0013 just two days after an announcement that QBID is signed with Time Warner, then please enlighten us. I can tell you the type of person that would sell into that, and he's a big fat gay guy named Frank. He's jolly as hell, but be wary of investing in his ventures.
This stock is the only stock I'm in that hits new LOWs on a day-to-day basis. It even hits 52-week-lows on PR days for christ's sakes!
Because the TW deal in Maine means crap as far as being a "carrier deal". It is essentially a worthless agreement at this point and should and has meant nothing to the PPS.
Q has had the agreement and shopping license with TW for years and are just now getting one of the TW cable distributors to air their programming.
Many TW cable distributors are franchises and in many cases barely involved with or ran by TW itself. Now, thats not to say it is not a good thing that we got picked up there, because it very well could be if the subscriber base does well then the parent company can suggest and or implement distribution throughout their entire network. Even then though, unless it is demanded by the TW powers on high, which I seriously doubt would happen, individual franchises can refuse to offer it anyway.
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Oh, man -- I just lost a star! I'll take it 'cause I apologized to G whilst he was unbeknownst to me getting personally viscious with Frank. But I hope no one voted me down because I expressed that opinion about both sides of the PPS/OS issue.
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If people were as concerned about money as they are about stars they would have sold this thing a long time ago
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The only things that will make this go up or down any significant amount are:
1. True nationwide/international carrier deal 2. Audit results released 3. A buyout offer
I have said all along this is not a quick runner for those that are investing rather than flipping. Most people I personally know that got in this stock did so after I did so they are always asking me when/what/why. I still believe this is a good investment and I am in for the long haul, but I truly dont expect huge strides until next year or unless one of the 3 things above happens earlier.
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Yes, Jen -- good point. But that is the purpose of these boards. Positive opinions invoke confidence, and negative opinions force objective consideration if reasonably presented.
Blind optimism is dangerous to your wallet; unfounded accusations are dangerous to everyone's wallet.
I don't like bashers, and I don't like pumpers -- those type of posts and attitudes are what sucks about the boards, IMO -- not reasonable discourse one way or the other.
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It would really be nice if that comes to pass! Finally put this whole matter to bed once and for all, and let us get back on the road to the big board!
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Very good opinioned post!My opinion!As far as the star comments!Well you know!Maybe grow up alittle!
quote:Originally posted by mrgr8avill: Know what, G, I ripped you a new one this morning on another thread, and I am going to publicly apologize to you in this one. Your post makes sense.
Before everybody goes tearing me up, remember my emotional position in this company and the fact that I own a bunch of shares myself. But, if you take your heart out of it for a moment...
1) We all agree that volume has been through the roof, and have all been perplexed about why positive news and high volume did not translate into increased PPS...
2) This is a pink, and pinks (in general -- nothing specific) are notorious for providing information in a creative way to their retail investors.
So, we have two scenarios as to why this is happening:
1) A conspiracy to undermine the price of QBID through fraudulent share transfers and naked shorting, or
2) A dilution by management
If you believe #1, then the recent PR and investigation is a clear smoke and mirrors method of turning attention away from the dilution and provides a convenient way to further delay the audit until some other form of capital can be raised and the shares re-purchased.
If you believe #2, then the investigation is a positive move to catch criminals and immoral buggers and in doing so return a good company to its rightful value.
Which one is more plausible than the other? In Pinkieland, who is really to say -- from a purely objective POV, who is to say?
One thing that does not help if the lack of information pertaining to OS. The issue has been hashed a thousand times (by myself included), and I am among those who believe that the information should be disclosed immediately if not sooner, and I don't fully get the whole "let's wait for the audit" thing.
I am not saying either scenario is true, I am not calling anybody names for believing one way or the other, and I am not selling my shares. I am, though, just pointing out that either scenario is believable until more information is disclosed.
And again, G -- I may or may not agree with you, but I do apologize for the personal attack from this morning -- it's really not in my nature to be nasty (sarcastic yup but nasty no). Bad weekend and bad morning.
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Based on the number of shares you have proven to own and when you purchased them, you are now down a significant amount of mpney. Since you publically disclosed that to us, I am genuinely asking. . .You aren't at all concerned that your investment is in a tailspin? That we are 15 ticks away from zero? That the one thing that Frank could do to prove his the integrity that he so espoused at the college talk your brother attended, is to publically state that he is not diluting?
Perhaps I'm just a terrible cynic, but last year's pumper queen has jumped ship, so I would really like to hear your thoughts on these questions.
I like cheesecake just a well as anyone, maybe more, but sometimes I like a little meat, too.
Why do you want to get personal? Go back and read my posts -- I am always upbeat and (try anyway) to be a little humorous. What is it with today? I was apologizing to G because he bashed the PLNI thread this morning and he doesn't even own a position in that company. So when I read his first post here, which was actually thought provoking, I thought I would apologize. By the time I wrote the post, he has made a personal attack on Frank, so I recanted on that basis.
I really and truly do not care how many stars I have. But I see nothing wrong with trying to inject a little levity into even the most serious of topics. Thus the little smiley face I put at the end of my post.
Usually you guys like my posts -- I get lots of he hes and very goods. Note that in my post I simply presented both points of view, without making any unfounded accusations or attacks. I don't get how I am being criticized for outlining an opinion I don't even happen to share, and then being called immature for it.
Look, enough of this crap -- take away my stars all damn day. But lighten up, people. There is a difference between arguing an opinion and bashing. I challenge anyone in this thread to go back through my QBID posts and find a single circumstance where I have made any unfounded accusations or attacks against this company or those who manage it. I have on a few occaisions pointed out the negatives, but what in the world could be construed as immature about that?
Today gets a big YIKES from me in here. This is normally a very fun group that I look forward to posting in and reading.
What-EVER!!!
quote:Originally posted by paperandcoin: Very good opinioned post!My opinion!As far as the star comments!Well you know!Maybe grow up alittle!
quote:Originally posted by mrgr8avill: Know what, G, I ripped you a new one this morning on another thread, and I am going to publicly apologize to you in this one. Your post makes sense.
Before everybody goes tearing me up, remember my emotional position in this company and the fact that I own a bunch of shares myself. But, if you take your heart out of it for a moment...
1) We all agree that volume has been through the roof, and have all been perplexed about why positive news and high volume did not translate into increased PPS...
2) This is a pink, and pinks (in general -- nothing specific) are notorious for providing information in a creative way to their retail investors.
So, we have two scenarios as to why this is happening:
1) A conspiracy to undermine the price of QBID through fraudulent share transfers and naked shorting, or
2) A dilution by management
If you believe #1, then the recent PR and investigation is a clear smoke and mirrors method of turning attention away from the dilution and provides a convenient way to further delay the audit until some other form of capital can be raised and the shares re-purchased.
If you believe #2, then the investigation is a positive move to catch criminals and immoral buggers and in doing so return a good company to its rightful value.
Which one is more plausible than the other? In Pinkieland, who is really to say -- from a purely objective POV, who is to say?
One thing that does not help if the lack of information pertaining to OS. The issue has been hashed a thousand times (by myself included), and I am among those who believe that the information should be disclosed immediately if not sooner, and I don't fully get the whole "let's wait for the audit" thing.
I am not saying either scenario is true, I am not calling anybody names for believing one way or the other, and I am not selling my shares. I am, though, just pointing out that either scenario is believable until more information is disclosed.
And again, G -- I may or may not agree with you, but I do apologize for the personal attack from this morning -- it's really not in my nature to be nasty (sarcastic yup but nasty no). Bad weekend and bad morning.
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I am providing a balance to all the pumping. Hopefully someone will see the light. Besides I like being proven right.
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quote:Originally posted by mrgr8avill: MGR, Not getting personal!Enjoyed and agreed with your earlier post!As for the stars!I didn't think you would be serious!Still, a good post!
Paper,
Why do you want to get personal? Go back and read my posts -- I am always upbeat and (try anyway) to be a little humorous. What is it with today? I was apologizing to G because he bashed the PLNI thread this morning and he doesn't even own a position in that company. So when I read his first post here, which was actually thought provoking, I thought I would apologize. By the time I wrote the post, he has made a personal attack on Frank, so I recanted on that basis.
I really and truly do not care how many stars I have. But I see nothing wrong with trying to inject a little levity into even the most serious of topics. Thus the little smiley face I put at the end of my post.
Usually you guys like my posts -- I get lots of he hes and very goods. Note that in my post I simply presented both points of view, without making any unfounded accusations or attacks. I don't get how I am being criticized for outlining an opinion I don't even happen to share, and then being called immature for it.
Look, enough of this crap -- take away my stars all damn day. But lighten up, people. There is a difference between arguing an opinion and bashing. I challenge anyone in this thread to go back through my QBID posts and find a single circumstance where I have made any unfounded accusations or attacks against this company or those who manage it. I have on a few occaisions pointed out the negatives, but what in the world could be construed as immature about that?
Today gets a big YIKES from me in here. This is normally a very fun group that I look forward to posting in and reading.
What-EVER!!!
quote:Originally posted by paperandcoin: Very good opinioned post!My opinion!As far as the star comments!Well you know!Maybe grow up alittle!
quote:Originally posted by mrgr8avill: Know what, G, I ripped you a new one this morning on another thread, and I am going to publicly apologize to you in this one. Your post makes sense.
Before everybody goes tearing me up, remember my emotional position in this company and the fact that I own a bunch of shares myself. But, if you take your heart out of it for a moment...
1) We all agree that volume has been through the roof, and have all been perplexed about why positive news and high volume did not translate into increased PPS...
2) This is a pink, and pinks (in general -- nothing specific) are notorious for providing information in a creative way to their retail investors.
So, we have two scenarios as to why this is happening:
1) A conspiracy to undermine the price of QBID through fraudulent share transfers and naked shorting, or
2) A dilution by management
If you believe #1, then the recent PR and investigation is a clear smoke and mirrors method of turning attention away from the dilution and provides a convenient way to further delay the audit until some other form of capital can be raised and the shares re-purchased.
If you believe #2, then the investigation is a positive move to catch criminals and immoral buggers and in doing so return a good company to its rightful value.
Which one is more plausible than the other? In Pinkieland, who is really to say -- from a purely objective POV, who is to say?
One thing that does not help if the lack of information pertaining to OS. The issue has been hashed a thousand times (by myself included), and I am among those who believe that the information should be disclosed immediately if not sooner, and I don't fully get the whole "let's wait for the audit" thing.
I am not saying either scenario is true, I am not calling anybody names for believing one way or the other, and I am not selling my shares. I am, though, just pointing out that either scenario is believable until more information is disclosed.
And again, G -- I may or may not agree with you, but I do apologize for the personal attack from this morning -- it's really not in my nature to be nasty (sarcastic yup but nasty no). Bad weekend and bad morning.
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I'm with you, Art -- we bought a million together last week if I remember. I need to get out of another position I am in right now that gapped up but then dropped into the can. As soon (love the optimism) as it gets back to break-even, I am out. Then I will pick up another 1,000,000 over here.
Should have just done it this morning, but the other thread got me wondering about a quick swing, and then there was a huge upgap -- just couldn't resit the idea of a quick buck. Of course, 15 minutes later I was totally negative.
Hopefully by end of day, my friend. And thank you for not turning on me, too...
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