Another "trap", another "sting operation". This is great. Whenever the storm clouds gather, it is some type of conspiracy or sting operation. Your credibility is shot, legal. Give it up , man.
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READ THE FOLLOWING AND TELL ME AGAIN THERE WERE NO LOANS:
2. The possible loans to officers and directors of the Registrant in violation of Section 402 of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002.
The Registrant filed a Form 15 on July 22, 2003, which the Registrant believed suspended its reporting obligations under the 34 Act. On February 17, 2005, the Registrant filed an amended Form 15, thereby reinstating its reporting obligations under the 34 Act. Assuming the Registrant's reporting status was suspended immediately upon filing the original Form 15 on July 22, 2003, loans made to officers and directors, if any, from July 22, 2003 through the reinstatement of the Registrant's reporting obligations under the 34 Act could not be in violation of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002, as the Registrant would not have been subject to the provisions of Sarbanes-Oxley.
legal, they as much as admitted there were insider loans from CMKX in this response.
That is a conflict of interests. All those transactions with affiliated people and companies were also conflicts of interests. They were also non-arms' length transactions that should have gone to shareholders for approval. Wonder what Nevada law says about such things without shareholder approval?
Yeah, legal, they said "if any". Want to place a bet against the probability they existed all over the place? I sure would like to see the terms of those loans should there be defaults.
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i think your right Will...i think legal is the sting...nobody in their right mind can read all the stuff that has come out in the last few months & not know UC scammed everyone. he paid shares to get it pumped & thus sell 703 billion shares, pr'ed half truths to give the pumpers material & then did as he wanted with the cash. we now know what Ginger did for 20 some billion shares, kept her mouth shut. i'm bettin she is in mexico city living the good life. desormeau is in canada with a new name & the master plan is tryin to keep his butt out of jail.
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DD your ass, I say get a lawyer to hang UC NOW !!! This is enough fiddling around. Nobody has anything good to say about him except the cult. Even his lawyers and accountants are turning against him. That was NOT a friendly letter. He apparently screwed us all so he could have his nice lifestyle and participate in his hobby. It's about time everybody quit lying and DDing and got something done.
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i do think us bashers owe the OG thanks. if it wasn't for them UC would have walked away untouched. they forced his hand i believe. i'm wondering if frizzy flip-flops & re-grows his balls after reading todays stuff. beckstead even warned UC about hiding this as they did the original 10a. i'm bettin not long after cmkx is completely revoked criminal charges show up against UC & pals. & just like the Manson cult a bunch will be there yelling how UC is being wronged.
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Not to worry guys, they are hard at work formulating another even wilder asinine rebuttal to all this. Unbelievable, that they can go on supporting this train wreck. legal, debbie, you beginning to understand this stock play yet? You two see any negatives here, where there obviously aren't any. You sense your money is flushed. Show me debbie's latest post, bet she is still buying and touting others to do the same.
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Once posted they put this in some kind of "complaint box" by some clown called "brain damage" instead of leaving it in the regular section(s):
"DENIAL!!!!! it's the first defense if you made a mistake.
We are all in a denial that we were mislead.....by UC himself ( thru his paid pumpers, we all know who they are). Rumors were actually encourage by CMKX management to keep the investors from selling their shares. Even CMKX IR person once said that all mone spend on racing were all from UC's own pocket....we should have known better that CMKX is the extension of UC's pocket.......
I dont' know what else to believe.....but all I know is that..... We still might continue trading BUT There will be NO CIM IPO, NO Short SQUEEZE, NO CASH Settlement, CMKX WILL NOT GO TO OTCBB and NO MORE DIVIES!!!!! MAYBE all Claims are all gone too!!! I'm not a basher... nor a disgruntled shareholder..... I'm just being realistic.......OPEN YOUR EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So legal, you think these fellas have a nice close, warm, cozy relationship. Well, those kinda things usually come to a screeching halt when it comes down to the old, "his ass or mine" time.
quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: No theory will. DD the business and personal connections between Stoecklein and Beckstead.
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Maybe Beckstead has a set of stones on him. Not like that mealy mouth attorney representing your cause. Steps up for a brief minute, gets a lollipop stuck in his mouth, then backs down like a punkass. Of course, he was satisfied with the explanation Urban offered. LOL Probably offered him some shares in his next venture.
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Under the forebearance agreement you cannot reveal the identities of the "sellers" unless there is a case in a court of competent jurisdiction. Also you must make all reasonable efforts to prevent a case from going to court in the first place. Maybe even getting a couple of expensive auditors to refuse to do your books. Even auditors who may be friendly to your cause.
Y'all are going to think what you want. And that's o.k., it's almost over. This 8K gave us the excuse to withdraw the Settlement Proposal. Revocation is certain, but so is appeal. An appeal that will get us to a court of competent jurisdiction. Seeing the plan is up to you.
However, stop and think for a moment about those "loans" for which there was no documentation. If you were the only person in charge of your "home office" wouldn't you be able to "find" those loan documents that fell behind the file cabinet? If you couldn't think of that, I think Glenn or Stocklein could.
Come on guys it's gonna be hard enough to have to listen to your apologies, I don't want you to look like fools too.
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I did like that part were the accountant says you have file the 8-K by this time and it better include this letter. Sound like a real firm who doesn't mense words or care to listen to company bullchit. By the book or you wish you did. lol
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This isn't checkmate for you, there isn't any checkmate for you, you will continue to deny it. Games over my friend. As long as you're demanding apologeze, I will be expecting one from *you* !
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Did any of you notice the following from the auditor:
"We have notified management, including the president and chief executive officer, of our concerns, and we met with CMKM's counsel as management's representative on July 20, 2005 to discuss these matters. We received no information to alleviate our concerns, and in fact obtained further information that enhanced our concerns. In his letter, Mr. Stoecklein makes note of the fact that we were invited to a subsequent meeting at CMKM's offices and chose not to appear. That is correct, but we also asked CMKM to provide us a written response to our concerns. We believed that a written response was appropriate in the circumstances and would have been significantly more
CMKM Diamonds, Inc. July 28, 2005 Page 4 of 5 valuable than an oral response at a meeting. We believe that Mr. Stoecklein's letter constitutes a written response, and this letter is our response to Mr. Stoecklein's letter."
NOTE: In short, what he is saying is, "I don't trust you guys!". "No verbal BS, put it in writing."
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legal: "However, stop and think for a moment about those "loans" for which there was no documentation. If you were the only person in charge of your "home office" wouldn't you be able to "find" those loan documents that fell behind the file cabinet? If you couldn't think of that, I think Glenn or Stocklein could."
W: That's 1)providing there was documentation in the first place or did UC just take the $$$$$s and claim loans and 2)if there was documentation, that it did not go up in smoke in UC's new home's fireplace.
PS: And don't forget that Glenn's response to all that he accomplished was a one page letter. Had he bothered to search, it might have been 2 pages and much more money for him.
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Here are a couple more from that same forum:
Re: any casavant phone numbers avalible? « Reply #10 on Today at 7:24pm » 911
Re: any casavant phone numbers avalible? « Reply #11 on Today at 7:25pm » Don't worry, he won't be in Vegas much longer. Or even the United States for that matter.
W: Looks like things are creating a bit more reality now.
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legal, cannot help but comment on the following statement made by you:
"If you were the only person in charge of your "home office" wouldn't you be able to "find" those loan documents that fell behind the file cabinet?"
W: I sure do wish you would begin paying attention. Don't you remember that all they needed for their documents was a cardboard box? Just keep slapping yourself, legal.
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Actually, I afraid to say, I think you guys on this board who think UC will go to jail may be as addled as Legaleagle.... Look at Eron, Kmart , and any other mega million COO, CEO etc, who never go to jail and even still incredibly walk with stolen millions yet in their pockets. No, no I don't think UC will get any punishment, he has too many people working the smoke screens and just may stay in the states just to rub it in. If he is anyway close to litigation, I'm betting 10 to 1 south america will be home. The SEC is a mess itself, so I don't hope for any real help from them with any of these shysters.
Again, as we pick our way thru the land mines and body parts of sub pennies, somebody still is manufacturing the mines and selling them.... then yet... another b o o m ..!!!
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legal, is that the same office manager that sold shares for at least $4.6 million? ya would think for that kinda money stuff could end up in a cabinate & god forbid in some kind of order. according to your theory UC must make some effort not to end up in court. hmmmm, ya think maybe that effort includes keeping books & records? ya think it includes not funding meaningless activities such as race cars? dont ya think finding diamonds should come before the ad campaign? i'll go with stockliem lying, a lawyer protecting his client, nothing new. but 2 auditors lying, i don't think so. they didn't get paid enough to get their license pulled for a .00005 pink sheet stock.
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I have not wavered AT ALL from my confidence level as it pertains to my investment in CMKX. My DD DEFINITELY indicates that "All is not as it appears" and that CIM has an EXCELLENT CHANCE to IPO with a multitude of dividends via CMKX (which can become a 10% heritage stock of CIM....and/or possible involvement with SGGM). The moral of the story is "This game isn't anywhere close to being over"...and I look forward for what the future holds as well as seeing this picture unveiled. To each his own (as it relates to thoughts and feelings) at this pivotal point, but I WILL NOT let fear and impatience get the best of me...and erase all that I know to be true in my heart and mind. All IMHO.
I sincerely wish everyone the best in all of their endeavors.
God Bless to all!
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Ya know,.. it has occurred to me that the cult sounds extremely religious, whereas people with a religious mind set tend to believe in the invisible. This is called faith. The same people send money to certain televangelist that will remain nameless like Tilton, who blesses 'puffs' tissues and electric opens a whole dumpster of letters without looking at a single one, then asks for your last dollar so God can help you ... this is called stupid. The parallel here is staggering. I'm frightened for these people and what this mind set may yet do to other people. And bush is one of them......arrrggg
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