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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
New thread.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
What should we talk about?
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Ribs?
 
Posted by will on :
 
Very apropos that you should start what will be the final thread for CMKX. Well, final meaning its last trading days.
We all know this pigslop will never die. The faithful, cult, pumpers, poor slobs that they are, will never let this die. For crap sakes they even had the Holy Spirit involved in it yesterday. Poor useless, worthless, helpless, hopeless, pipe dreaming slobs.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
I see you're in your kind, gentle mode tonight.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Just thought the title subject was appropriate. Makes sense either way (la la land or reality) you look at it. Just hope no matter what happens, it becomes "judgement day" for UC and cohorts. What MIGHT have been was most certainly destroyed by them.

Had they been somewhat less greedy, they could have milked this thing for a long period of time instead of the year or so they have been doing it.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Oh judgement day will be here soon. As to this being the last thread, I doubt it. See, the theory now is that they wanted to be revoked all along. Once that happens, we get a whole new crop of rumors.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
"...theory now is that they wanted to be revoked all along."

The obvious question to that theory is, "Why waste so much money on fighting the revocation then?". That would seem to be extremely foolish. Of course, foolish is what foolish does, huh.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Exactly. If they wanted to be revoked all along, they could have achieved it months ago. Don't respond to the SEC at all and bam, they're revoked. I'm sure there's a reason for it though but it's going to be beyond our level of thinking.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
It sure looks like UC is just one big, stupid, blob of bullsh:t! Everything ends up looking like a charade.
 
Posted by STAR GAZER on :
 
I rode it all the way from .0001 to .0012 to .0001 Fair amount of money in it. Well at least I learned to take some profits when a stock goes up. I can then let the rest ride.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
wallace all this time around cmkx & you have to ask why spend the money defending yourself in court when you want to be revoked??? you must be gettin old...lol it was the only way to get naked shorting on the record. they got the SEC to say they would not stipulate that cmkx was ns'ed. thats at least worth 5 or 6 rumors or reasons why. it wouldn't have anything to do with UC trying to keep up the front...by the way good job there UC...the 5th was genius...lol
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
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We're not going to file! UC and IBM have no intention of filing now. Things have gone way too far for that (or it'll be well after this deadline). But don't despair. Look, I've always come across as negative (just ask some of the moderators), claiming that this is where we'd end up. Now that we're almost there though, I feel like we're coming out of the woods. WHEN we are revoked "for not filing properly..." CMKX if that is how they'll still be known, will have to show their cards at last. What a relief that will be. Sure they could have nothing more to do with us or give us a poultry reward before disowning us, but at least we'll have closure!

Would you honestly want to go on like this: Speculating,appealing,hoping,praying! In almost a year, we've heard very little from our company whilst outsiders pound it into the ground. What kind of an investment is that, really?

By August, I'm hoping I can be regarded as one of our most positive members. Because as I've always said, either you believe in UC's intentions regarding us, or you don't. It's a 50-50 outcome, and if I'm right, we're going to be rich, just not right away. Once the revocation is announced, he'll be free to make his next BIG move and you know what? I have virtually no idea what that is going to be. It just comes down to faith. I believe in this man, and I believe IBM would never have gotten involved with us without first investigating us thoroughly, as well as relishing the challenge to defeat the MM's,SEC and DTCC. It will be his swansong; the deal that in his eyes, gives him parity with the man whose shadow he's had to reside under for most of his working life: Howard Hughes.

Is there a 99% chance that our land contains a huge amount of diamonds? If you spent a fortune acquiring this land, would you employ run-of-the-mill characters to develop it or would you bring in personnel at the top of their game? If it was the latter option, what do you think would tempt them to get on board when the SEC was swarming all over us? Let's just list some again: IBM (we know all about his background and reputation),and Barry Raimant, 20 years in the business with BEMA GOLD (Russia, Equador) he grew them from nothing into a $BILLION company before joining SGGM - of all companies!! And Roger Glenn (I think with time,we'll discover he had a lot more to do with this company's development than it now appears. The court case made it out that he had virtually nothing to do with us. IBM himself, said he didn't know anything about us). It comes down to the same thing: either you believe in life after the revocation or you don't. I pride myself on having good instincts, and I say, there's a lot more to this and possibly even before the end of this year, they're going to allow us to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

For those of you who doubt this conclusion, I leave you with this last point to ponder: how far do you think UC would get with his new company, if all the world knew he'd just come from CMKX, where he screwed nearly 60,000 investors over the same proposed deal
 
Posted by will on :
 
"how far do you think UC would get with his new company, if all the world knew he'd just come from CMKX, where he screwed nearly 60,000 investors over the same proposed deal"

With an idiot like this and many more of the faithful, I would guess he could float another 500B O/S and have you fools buying them up like hotcakes.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
P.T. Barnum said it best...
There's a sucker born every minute.

Now we know where most of them hang out....CMKX....
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 

 
Posted by Thorn on :
 
heh. I liked the part about the "poultry" reward. Was he trying to suggest that something is fowl about this situation? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
"how far do you think UC would get with his new company, if all the world knew he'd just come from CMKX, where he screwed nearly 60,000 investors over the same proposed deal"

With an idiot like this and many more of the faithful, I would guess he could float another 500B O/S and have you fools buying them up like hotcakes.

Will, I would respond to your post, but already in this new thread, you have referred to us as "fools" and "Poor useless, worthless, helpless, hopeless, pipe dreaming slobs." So, I won't respond to any more of your "elementary school" name calling, posts, until you grow up. And will just let the other folks here consider the "educational level" of the source.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
I liked the part about the "poultry" reward.
Does crow count?
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
stockster,

"TA" refers to the Transfer Agent, not tits and ass.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
"...you have referred to us as "fools" and "Poor useless, worthless, helpless, hopeless, pipe dreaming slobs." So, I won't respond to any more of your "elementary school" name calling, posts, until you grow up."
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Aaaawwwww, Will! What hast thou wrought now? You damn fool kid! Don't you know the faithful prefer to be called imbecilic? See, now, that is a more grown-up term. The feebleminded will one day rule the earth!

Just remember, Will, their problem is due to the imbibition of koolaid. Causes a swelling of the head.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Yea, what have I wrought?

Like the pinhead ever gave a decent answer of any value to any question. Repost and inuendo, conjecture, theories, that's what you get from him. Him and that woman of high morale standards, with an expert understanding of trading, never answered a question in anything other than an intolerant condescending way. WOW! I sure will miss the volley and banter with those slobs.

Wonder if she's understanding this stock better these days, watching her money shrink to $0.00 ?

Anyone see any negatives with CMKX?

LOL
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
I'm not a perfect fool, parts of me are missing.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
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...there's no company to file.

This is an opinion folks, so cool it on the basher crap! No one is asking you to believe this, it is a 'point of view' only.

Here goes...

Yesterday I read a analysis by Pedro on RB [that for some reason] he didn't post here, but he calculated [based on hearing transcript] the OS in 2003 based on Helen Bagley's testimony (!7,000,000,000 + in July 2003) and the PR'ed share retirement in the latter part of 2003 (18,000,000,000 +) ; Now, this is all documented...and based on these numbers in January 2004, Urban had bought back the entire OS. It's as if he completed the major plan that they had laid out a year earlier in January 2003.

Pedro then stated an OPINION.."Was it Urban's intention at that point to take the company private?"

Good point!

Because who would've thought that 8 months later (August 20, 2004) we would have 800,000,000,000 shares diluted in to the market. Why go through all the trouble of zero-ing out OS of the company and then do that?

What changed?

It seems like CMKX became a "ghost company...a smoke screen"; something that would draw fire from market makers, hedge funds, hostile takeovers, and anything else you can think of. Essentially, all assets would be moved and CMKX would be nothing more than a shell.

But, as a "shell", they can never file...because then everyone will know it's a shell.."Game Over".

UC presents the concept of "Heritage Stock" as one way to appease the masses while he works his plan. He not only hands out dividends, but PR's "10% lifetime royalty paid to CMKX". He works in the name of CMKX, and funnels opportunties through CMKX, but technically places no value in the company...it's a gateway to all other enterprises holding valuation, but holds no value itself. This is why Andy always say's "If something happens to CMKX, everyone will simply be moved to the next level".

It's like a magic trick where you watch one hand (CMKX) and the other one reaches in your back pocket (the JV's). CMKX has resisted filing because it would have exposed their clever charade. If anyone dared to take CMKX down, through "naked shorting", hostile takeover...whatever! They would have gotten nothing.

They have it set up perfectly! They decide their own fate. UC is correct, "If you're in, you win". Because he can roll CMKX shareholders any where he wants. If we're revoked, he can reverse shareholders in to CIM or SGGM, or something else...if the company is snatched by an unsuspected evil-doer; no claims, no money...NOTHING!

As long as the company didn't file, this could not be verified...it could only be speculated. To file would let the cat out of the bag.

I believe they have something so VALUABLE that a complex structure had to be set up as security. I've said many times before this is a "David and Goliath" scenario. Have all of you seen that IBM commercial where the little bookish man is speaking to an IBM rep, and says "I've got something in this box that's huge". That's exactly what this is; the little man in the commercial created a world changing product in his garage, but how do you successfully interface your small-self with a giant, greedy, overpowering world that, if given the opportunity, will steal it from you, and then tell you you never owned it in the first place. This is why I believe whenever UC shows someone (Glenn, Maheu, the JV's) the contents of his box, their first statement is "How do I get in on this?"

Bottom line, I don't think we're going to file, because there is no company to file. I also believe all assets have been transfered to CIM. Why? Because as a private company they are free to work and structure the company without prying eyes.

I now believe that one of the purposes of CMKX was, to buy time and distract attention. I do believe we'll be revoked.

The only question is: ARE THEY READY?
 
Posted by BlackWidow on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Thorn:
heh. I liked the part about the "poultry" reward. Was he trying to suggest that something is fowl about this situation? [Big Grin]

Naah, means we end up with chicken feed.
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
Wow, will somebody actually believe that dung??
 
Posted by bmarley5780 on :
 
isnt SGGM in some sort of SEC stuff as well?
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
Wow, will somebody actually believe that dung??
Thousands.
 
Posted by Otttoman on :
 
There are many negatives with CMKX which is obvious, but also some positives, IMO. Only time will tell for sure, but it's like any other stock on the market, risky and a gamble. Maybe more like the lottery with miserable odds but a great payday if luck is on your side. In any case, I'd rather take a shot at the golden ring and fail, than never have even tried at all. It's easier to sit on the sidelines and criticize the players, than to actually play the game. It doesnt matter if you win or lose, but how you played the game, and crybaby spectators go home with nothing regarless of the outcome. If your in you win, if you doubt get out.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
seriously legal these ppl need to start writing fiction novels. that idea has more holes the swiss cheese. i dont even know where to begin..lol. lets just go to the bottom line. how do shareholders profit. that idea would mean buying cmkx since the last divy was foolish. 10% of CIM split up between lets say 400 billion shares. i'll say UC owns 303 billion to be nice (serious suprise if he owns 1 billion) i'll use cert numbers & round up. if the S.A gold does great CIM would get $1 million minus running costs. diamonds, a huge mine might get $100 million a yr out of the ground, a up & running mine, the missing up & running mine. minus running costs. to mine more would drop diamond prices & the time to mine that much would limit the total. you dont get paid on extimated value. UCA's uranium, lets dream big & say another $100 million. & since this is a dream lets add oil, say $50 million. total of $251 million income minus running costs. from another mining company i found they figure final value at 10% of the total but since that isnt worth figuring i'll lose my mind & say gross is $1 billion making net $100 million divide that by 400 billion shares. the 10% royality is .00025 a share or $250 per million shares a yr. this is based on monster numbers, on product not yet mined or even ready to mine or even known to exist. now if you add in this trap shorty chit & its divided by 1 trillion or more all i can say is...don't quit your day job...lol
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
You've got to add a catchy phrase to the end of your posts Dr. B. Kind of like your alter ego Dr. D. who I believe concludes every post with "Success is at Hand" or "All is Well" or something like that. How about "Revocation is Imminent" or "Sell While You Still Can", you know, something snappy.
 
Posted by Thorn on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Otttoman:
...It doesnt matter if you win or lose, but how you played the game...

Yeah, that makes for a great song, but has no practical use when investing.
 
Posted by will on :
 
A newly recruited pinhead.....and they say their bulchit and nonsense doesn't influence anyone. This pos has 0 chance of making you one cent. You're a loser and haven't been around here a week, otto. Good luck !

quote:
Originally posted by Otttoman:
There are many negatives with CMKX which is obvious, but also some positives, IMO. Only time will tell for sure, but it's like any other stock on the market, risky and a gamble. Maybe more like the lottery with miserable odds but a great payday if luck is on your side. In any case, I'd rather take a shot at the golden ring and fail, than never have even tried at all. It's easier to sit on the sidelines and criticize the players, than to actually play the game. It doesnt matter if you win or lose, but how you played the game, and crybaby spectators go home with nothing regarless of the outcome. If your in you win, if you doubt get out.


 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if i remember upside..lol maybe i'll add "cause Dr.of B says so" i like my permenant slogan & do NOT want cmkx following me around allstocks
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
I think it's Wills time of the month. He's particularly vicious today.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Punk cost me a star too, lol.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ya but you just try to get a thrill off the pointy edges Will...ya perv..lol
 
Posted by will on :
 
I'd rather be a perv than a UC punkass. Soon UC will be someone's punk though, so it all works out for the best.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
will, did you mean punk or plunk?
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Punk cost me a star too, lol.

Will, I just gave you a 5 rating! Hope that helps [Wink]
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, thank you, justplayin. I sure do appreciate it. Of course, I will reciprocate.
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
Will, I see you are back up to 4 stars. I guess one voice does make a difference (LOL).

I will be sorry to see CMKX go. It's threads give alot of humor to an otherwise stressful day of trading [Frown]

Oh, I do hold some shares but made alot of $$$$$$ when this one bounced for a week or so. That is the problem with alot of investors of pennies, they don't understand them and fall in love. When will they learn to take profits?? Maybe the happenings of CMKX will give them a lesson in subbers.

GLTA
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well playin,

These jamokes have done more than fall in love with CMKX. They have taken an x-prison guard that screwed them silly and glorified him into some hero. They conviently theorize out of their asses and out of any constraints of realty.

I think it was best said what they do by legal, (noah), himslef when he accused ric of this:

"Ric, there you go assuming again. You don't know what the company is doing. You are only seeing what you want to see, or what supports your contentions"

That is exactly what they and especially he does, so he knows what he's talking about.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by justplayin:
quote:
Will, I see you are back up to 4 stars.
And that's 4 more than he deserves.
 
Posted by will on :
 
...and UpMan is my friend, justplayin. Isn't that something.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Posted by justplayin:
quote:
Will, I see you are back up to 4 stars.
And that's 4 more than he deserves.

 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Yes, I'm your friend but I like you a whole lot better when you have less stars than me.
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
This was asked of Ric, from page 87 of old thread...
RE: Ric... could you please define 'TA'
... technical assistant, troglidyte ancestor...
transgendered associate...????

Wallace...what thread ??? where.
and wallace, never mind, I found it.
S5
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
oops, thanks wallace, just backread your post... thanks
 
Posted by will on :
 
WOW! That's what I love about you, you're not shallow little b*tch. LOL
I'd love to have you in fox hole. No wait a minute, I meant, you are a foxhole!
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Yes, I'm your friend but I like you a whole lot better when you have less stars than me.

LOL!!! I just noticed, back to 3 stars, punks.
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
Has usca been halted yet as well..??
or gemm ? they're all related UC.

S5
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
So,what is it? 5 stars are bad or what????
 
Posted by will on :
 
Yea, 5 stars suck. You're doing good stockster5.
 
Posted by duediligence1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bmarley5780:
isnt SGGM in some sort of SEC stuff as well?

Yeah, they are halted for 10 days and the SEC has already started litigation to revoke there registration.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Originally posted by Will:
quote:
WOW! That's what I love about you, you're not shallow little b*tch.
I'm as shallow as they come. Glad to see you back where you belong Mr. Three Star.
 
Posted by will on :
 
I'll beg for more stars later. Maybe stockster5, will give me 5 stars, I'll do the same for him.
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by stockster5:
[QB] So,what is it? 5 stars are bad or what.


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5 stars means you have been in a coma somewhere..
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by will:
[QB] I'll beg for more stars later. Maybe stockster5, will give me 5 stars, I'll do the same for him.

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Will,
I gave ya 5

I tried begging here the other night!

Did not do a damn bit a good.
 
Posted by will on :
 
You're the best, Dustman. I'd give ya five back, but I think you irritated me one night and I gave ya one. LOL
Nah! I'm just jagging ya, Upside does sh*t like that.
You just got 5 from me, Dustman.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Will:
quote:
Nah! I'm just jagging ya, Upside does sh*t like that.
I was here a couple weeks ago when Dustoff was begging and he got 5 from me. So did you a long time ago. I must have been drunk or something that night.
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by will:
[QB] You're the best, Dustman. I'd give ya five back, but I think you irritated me one night and I gave ya one. LOL
Nah! I'm just jagging ya, Upside does sh*t like that.
You just got 5 from me, Dustman.

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I stirred the Hornets up on the Q thread once,

wound up damn near getting stung to death!!!!!!!!!

12 1 stars in about 10 minutes!!!!

Man, they were buzzing!
 
Posted by STAR GAZER on :
 
I'll hold on for a few more, ok, several more years. If they are still around. They do seem to have THE PRIME DIAMOND BEARING KIMBERLITE AREA and if they are ever able to find some macro blue white diamonds, even with their billions and billions of shares, they could still shoot for the stars and maybe even reach, dare I say it? a penny a share. Lets see 14 million shares x .01 = $140,000 Shucks I might end up making money on this after all. For $140,000, I'll give it time, a lot of time.
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
[QB] Posted by Will:
[QUOTE]Nah! I'm just jagging ya, Upside does sh*t like that.

I was here a couple weeks ago when Dustoff was begging and he got 5 from me. So did you a long time ago. I must have been drunk or something that night.

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I have been holding my vote......

How much ya gimmy fer it?
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Sold all my CMKX. Got a bunch of others in my bag that I'm holding, pick one.
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by STAR GAZER:
[QB] I'll hold on for a few more, ok, several more years. If they are still around. They do seem to have THE PRIME DIAMOND BEARING KIMBERLITE AREA and if they are ever able to find some macro blue white diamonds, even with their billions and billions of shares, they could still shoot for the stars and maybe even reach, dare I say it? a penny a share. Lets see 14 million shares x .01 = $140,000 Shucks I might end up making money on this after all. For $140,000, I'll give it time, a lot of time.

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Oh O, somebody stepped in it now...
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Upside:
[QB] Sold all my CMKX. Got a bunch of others in my bag that I'm holding, pick one.

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Got GZFX or IBZT

I'll give ya 5

Ah heck, I'll give ya 5 before I change my mind.
 
Posted by STAR GAZER on :
 
Oh O, somebody stepped in it now...
Let me smell my foot. OK, so my perfume is
O' de Pue. No need to rub it in. As I posted yesterday, I rode this from .0001 to .0012 to .0001 The lesson being that when you have profits, and in this case BIG PROFITS, then quit being a greedy moron and take some profits. What is really embarrasing is that it was in the .0010 range for several days back then and during that time I didn't sell any shares. Even if I had sold only 20% of my shares I would have had a 200% profit and the rest of the 80% would have been a free ride (down). We were all posting guesses at the time on where it was going to be at the next week and even the next year. Needless to say, we guessed the wrong direction.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
We all did that at least once. Mine was GZFX. I would have made a killing at .18. Still broke even but was up $7000.00 at one time on it. Made up for it on Qbid and more but still.

But as I said once before, If I didn't know for sure that CMKX was a scam, I wouldn't say a word about it. Well maybe a couple but thats it, lol.
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
Star Gazer, around my home, when ever I get a little cocky about a good trade, well, quess what!!

It is generally something like, OK Mr. CMKX

Always brings me right back down to earth.

I have 600k, of the garbage.

The CMKX thread still provides entertainment, so I quess the chit has some value..
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Dustoff,
Perhaps I could interest you in 5000 shares of DCUT? Bought them at .12 each. Now worth a total of a buck I think. Would that seal the deal?
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
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Regulators implicated in cover up on tape!
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Bear Stearns implicates Regulators in Cover-up to protect Wall Street Fraud – 5 minutes excerpt of 1

http://www.investigatethesec.com/Bear080705.wma

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http://www.adamporter.com/media/Bear080705.mp3
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
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The link opens up a windows media player file.

It is Bear Stearns talking about 1,000 companies of which 800 are OTC BB and Pinks that would be on SHO list if it was put out that day. This was just days before the SHO list was made public with WAYYYY less than 1,000 companies on it.

They also talk about the SEC and the X-clearing thing like Jeffries was guilty of with CMKX. A whole lot of goodies in there.

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Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Oh, give it up....sheesh.
The only way to fix everything is shut down the markets....
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I believe the SEC has a lot to answer for but the website Investagatethesec is real biased about there articles and tend to stretch the truth. Sort of like the CMKX cult does for CMKX. They talked earlier about how there was a lot of pinks that were revoked and they were loaded with NSS. They make it out that the SEC is revoking these to cover up the abuse. But I see it as these scams are targets of NSS. They are hiding information so shareholders don't know whats going on so shorty see an chance to make money. Is this abuse wrong, he11 yes but still the company is breaking SEC rules. They should be shut down like CMKX should be shut down. But just because the scammers are scamming on a scam doesn't make the company exempt from its responsibilities. Global had proof of NSS, the SEC isn't revoking them. Why, because they didn't break SEC rules. You think the SEC might be finding these scams because of the scammers interest in them? Who knows but the blame game continues. You refuse to see that you invested in a bad stock, so you look for a scape goat.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Yea, 5 stars suck. You're doing good stockster5.

Stockster,

By now you should know you cannot trust my friend Will. LMAO The above is an extremely good example of his sincerity and his eloquence. My other pal, Upside, runs a close second as an instigator. Upside must have had the world's sorest crotch from sitting on the fence, but even that should be healing a bit by now.
 
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Dear Group Members, July 8, 2005


John Martin returned to the office today and has done some incredible due diligence. As your attorney the information that I continuously receive from shareholders allows me to be a more effective advocate on your behalf. I realize how fortunate I am to have such dedicated shareholders. I will not name any names for many reasons, but I want you to know that I am eternally grateful for those that are spending time and dollars to keep this fight going. Your investigative skill and dedication to our mission is appreciated by me more than you can ever know. When I talk with the company attorneys, or UC, or the SEC, it is much easier to present the shareholder’s perspective when I can speak with knowledge of what has gone on in the past and what may be transpiring as we speak. The SEC has a policy of not disclosing any information that may pertain to an “ongoing investigation”. CMKX is still an “ongoing investigation”. The company is cooperating in our efforts and is in fact sharing some information with me but I feel it is vital that we do our own due diligence.

I have talked with Don Stoecklein on several occasions in the last two days. I understand some of the problems he has experienced with the hiring of a new auditor. An announcement will come from the company by way of an 8(K) when he is officially engaged. The office staff at Opus Point and in Mr. Stoecklein’s office has continued to work on all the various schedules needed by the auditor. We have discussed the parameters of a settlement proposal. I am very hopeful we can get this proposal to the SEC for their consideration in the next day or two. I cannot post any rough drafts because they are preliminary. I assure you that I will post something as soon as I am able. I do not expect to hear from Don Stoecklein again until Monday.

The ruling by Judge Murray on our request to offer SH Exhibit 1 says in the first paragraph that the initial decision is due by July 21, 2005. This date was computed by adding 120 days to the date the OIP was served on the company. The OIP was filed on March 16, 2005 but the answer date and final opinion dates are governed by the date the OIP was served on the company. I do not know of the specific date the OIP was served on CMKX but apparently it was 120 days before July 21, 2005. The Court commented during the hearing that she believed her ruling was due July 15. This would have been correct if the 120 days ran from the date of filing of the OIP or if the OIP was filed and served on the same date. This does not mean there has been any extension granted but most probably the correct date was computed by looking at the date the OIP was actually served on the company. The Court has a procedure where she can ask for an extension of time to rule in this matter if she needs such extension, but no such request has been made at this time to my knowledge.

I talked with UC on Tuesday and Wednesday. He again expressed his intentions to get these matters behind us. We have agreed to revisit a trip to Ecuador and Canada after this revocation proceeding is settled or ruled upon.

Onward,

Bill
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Oh boy.....54 cents a share, right??????


WOW....pass the Koolaid !!!!
 
Posted by jackpot on :
 
UC should be in jail. I can't believe that joker is still running around free.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Originally posted by Wallace:
quote:
My other pal, Upside, runs a close second as an instigator.
How in the heck did I wind up in second place? There's no better instigator than me.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Old 5 star UpMan, down to 4 stars, second to many. Now he loses his number one instigator rating and is only a 4 star instigator, second to many there too. What's wrong, buddy, your life is going to hell. Snap out of it. Don't you excell at anything?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
"I have talked with Don Stoecklein on several occasions in the last two days. I understand some of the problems he has experienced with the hiring of a new auditor. An announcement will come from the company by way of an 8(K) when he is officially engaged"


July 9th as i'm posting this. ruling by the 21st or 12 days. have yet to hire an auditor. i like the..."I understand some of the problems he has experienced with the hiring of a new auditor."...part. are they having trouble finding 1 they can bribe? you know and any auditor will know anything cmkx files had better be perfect. hakala let out that they had some questionable trading proof that she didn't bring. then of course UC tops it off with the "can't wait to get this behind us" line. these clowns sound like this is just a bump in the road, that being revoked is no big deal. or are they handing frizzy the party line just to hold shareholders at bay till its over & then say well nothing we did worked, sorry folks.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
bill,

"or are they handing frizzy the party line just to hold shareholders at bay till its over & then say well nothing we did worked, sorry folks."

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I have been saying this for months.
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UC "Don't blame me, look at the people we hired. Just bad luck that they were so unreliable but we tried."

Cult "Poor UC, he tried to make us millionaires, we need to go after all these people and the SEC for losing our money. Maybe we should sent UC something for trying."

[ July 09, 2005, 00:38: Message edited by: Ric ]
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Shareholders 60-70 thousand.

Owners Group: Signed Agreements: 5592
Phase 2 Agreements:1405

Shares Held and verified: 313,980,396,244


Total Allstocks bashers: 5 maybe 7 on a good day.

Why don't you guys find an investment you like, do some DD, support the company, and make yourselves some money.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I have a pretty diverse portfolio. I also swing trade pennies. But I don't have to make up rumors or theories on any of them, because I did my DD and would never long term invest in a company that hides the basic information needed to make a sound investment. Thats what real DD is.

As I said if I didn't know for a fact this was a scam, I wouldn't have fun with it.
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
I think the real blame is on the clearing companies who clear shares like the government prints funny money. In the name of liquidity, DCTT and other agencies are drowning in their own creation. If a company pollutes a river, you don't blame the workers who built the pipes to the river...you stop it at the source, the factory. The factory here is the system that passes the certs, or floats shares that don't exist. I may have my initials wrong, but most of you should know what I'm talking about.
What do you think.
And as I said before, put vodka in that koolaid and it's almost painless.
...oh oh, 2 stars, what did I do wrong?
S5
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I sort of answered it here. The NSS problem is bad but that doesn't take away from the fact that this company diluted its shares to 703 billion. It is easier to short when you have this type of scam put off on its investors. Which is worse, the short or the dilution. In CMKX it doesn't matter because the company killed the stock alone with the shorts. Two scams don't make a right. Maybe if you cleaned up these scams that hide the fact there o/s is growing faster then the national debt then shorty would have a harder time. I think it should be illegal to gag the transfer agent so she can't give out the o/s and float. Any company that does this is hiding something for a reason.

The big problem is when they short with no intent to cover or NS (Naked Short) shares. But there is a need to keep the market liquid so some shorting is very much needed or these groups that run stocks would run wild with it. One scam causes another again. But were the abuse is real bad is with these scam stocks. The shorts see an opening where they know the stock will fail because of the severe dilution or pump and dumps. But as I said, scams beget scams.

quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
I believe the SEC has a lot to answer for but the website Investagatethesec is real biased about there articles and tend to stretch the truth. Sort of like the CMKX cult does for CMKX. They talked earlier about how there was a lot of pinks that were revoked and they were loaded with NSS. They make it out that the SEC is revoking these to cover up the abuse. But I see it as these scams are targets of NSS. They are hiding information so shareholders don't know whats going on so shorty see an chance to make money. Is this abuse wrong, he11 yes but still the company is breaking SEC rules. They should be shut down like CMKX should be shut down. But just because the scammers are scamming on a scam doesn't make the company exempt from its responsibilities. Global had proof of NSS, the SEC isn't revoking them. Why, because they didn't break SEC rules. You think the SEC might be finding these scams because of the scammers interest in them? Who knows but the blame game continues. You refuse to see that you invested in a bad stock, so you look for a scape goat.



[ July 09, 2005, 02:31: Message edited by: Ric ]
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i agree ric...the gagging of the t/a needs to be outlawed. in some cases it may be they are too lazy to look up the number. either way every company should by law be required to provide o/s & float on demand by any interested investor. the rest of the financial info would need to be audited thus costing money but share struture numbers are free. it would also help with naked shorting. informed experianced investors can read dilution on a days trade numbers. even if the o/s is a few hundred million you can tell by volume & L2 changes. if you have the o/s & watching a days trading says dilution yet the o/s hasn't changed.... that will not work all the time, many will think ns'ing but it may help keep the mm's in line as daytraders & short term traders will catch the patterns. ppl will call the SEC and public pressure can be applied by this. the more the pressure from a bunch of differant angles the better the chance something is done to fix the problem.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ok this is for comic relief...even the PB32 think this clown has lost it...lol


Where in the world do these people come from? LMAO!

By: cmkxmillionaire
08 Jul 2005, 08:39 PM EDT
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Hello friends

I am sitting here at a bistro eating a salad and thinking of the great time I will have if this hits soon as I expect. I heard that some bad guys almost found me the other day as I slept. Fortunately, I had switched bungalows and wasn't where I was thought to be. I sometimes change locations 10-12 times a day to stay ahead of those that would like to hide the truth. "Operation Condor" has not relented at all. I could soon be a trillionaire!!!!! I hear from a few reliable sources that this thing could top $100/sh!!!! I feel a short squeeze coming on that will rock the world!!!!!! I have a meeting with a high-ranking official soon that will be very enlightening I am sure. Oh, Oh I just heard a noise. I am tired of Europe. I want to be able to come home in peace. I hope that soon it will be safe for me to return. Until then, keep the faith.

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
LOL! Pretty funny stuff... "Oh, Oh I just heard a noise." ...LOL!
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Sittin in a bistro and heard a noise?????????

Well that is amazing.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Something tells me, the next of his 10-12 daily locations was probably a head shop...
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Whatever he is smoking, I'd like to buy a couple ounces.....LOL
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i bet he's in Amsterdam [Big Grin]

wonder what those "croutons" are in his salad?
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
" rock the world "
" high ranking officials "
" Operation Condor "
" bad guys "
" trillonaire "
" $100 pps
" being chased all over Europe "
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Get out the net!... Before this character blows himself up!
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'm wondering if that salad had a green bud like substance instead of leafy green. i'm sure the noise he heard was more of his deep fried brain crumbling to ash.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ed19363
Member


Member Rated:
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Whatever he is smoking, I'd like to buy a couple ounces.....LOL


ed you plan on hiding in europe so that the truth about cmkx won't be forced out of you too????...lol
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ok here is the next cult talking point. its from march 6th 2005 & a Reno, nevada newspaper. i'm amazed...30 mining operations?? a diamond mine???. i'm guessing the reporter talked to UC when he was sitting next to a nude dancer & half way thru a bottle of Jack Black. either that or he was next to the guy in europe in that noisy bistro....lol


CMKM Diamonds

The Securities and Exchange Commission announced that it was temporarily suspending Las Vegas-based CMKM Diamonds Inc. from trading its shares until March 16, citing the firm’s failure to answer questions about its business and mining operations and to file required SEC reports on time since 2002.

The commission, in Thursday’s issue of SEC News Digest, warned brokers, dealers, shareholders and prospective stock buyers of the government’s concerns that CMKM “relied on a Form S-8 to issue unrestricted securities” and that some shareholders might have broken SEC laws in reselling shares in CMKM.

The SEC, which said CMKM has been delinquent in filing SEC reports since fiscal 2002, stated that it took action thanks to the assistance of the National Association of Securities Dealers and the Saskatchewan Financial Services Commission.

The announcement came only two weeks after CMKM said in a release it had filed a Form 15 with the SEC and that its reporting status had been reinstated. The company appointed Robert Maheu, one-time aide to the late billionaire Howard Hughes, to its board of directors in January.

CMKM, run by Urban Casavant, a former prison guard from Prince Albert, Canada, said it has 30 mining operations for potash and uranium in Saskatchewan and is mining for diamonds on the James Smith Cree National Reserve there.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
You're close Bill, he was getting a lap dance and the reporter was the dancer working her night job. Urban was laying his drunken Casavant charm on her.
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
Okay, Has anybody really seen UC. How come I can't find a picture of this guy. I'm now starting to wonder if he really exists at all.
My wife has been reading this whole mess over my shoulder and wonders about me as well. Well, wasn't that nice, she brought me some tea.... ...
wait, this doesn't taste like tea.... it tastes like cherry koola...................OH MY GOD ..........................aaarrrgggggggggggg
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Urban is the evil looking scam artist in the center. LOL


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Posted by legaleagle on :
 
And the equally devious and demonic "Carolyn"

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Posted by striper on :
 
ric what's your proof that cmkx is a scam?

striper
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Whats your proof it isn't.

But we can start off with 703 billion o/s. Gagged TA. When new TA took over and released o/s at 400 billion they fired them and got back the old one and lied that it wasn't true. They refuse to show any proof of income, expenses, or mining sites. There office is in the owners house. He meets his partners at the slot machines in Vegas. Well, heres a good starting list:

Before the hearing

* Authorized Shares increased from less than 1 billion to 800 billion
* Outstanding Shares increased from less than 1 billion to 779 billion
* 500 billion in dilution from March 2004 to March 2005
* 407 billion on shareholders list as of March 2005
* Was told we would be pleasantly surprised by O/S and made to believe it was under 400 billion. Melvin on the air denies that the O/S is over 400 Billion after TA fiasco
* CMKX Transfer Agent gagged per direction of the UC
* Refuses to give investors basic information on company
* Refuses to give share structure
* CMKX trading unregistered shares in SASK, trading halted there
* SASK inquiry into CMKX valuations ignored
* CMKX partner USCA under investigation by the SASK
* No revenue stream from company operations
* Repeated claims of being close to reporting when in fact no attempt had been made
* Claims in Canada for mineral rights, made to believe 100's of holes drilled. but only 15
* Let the only promising hole go. It was sold on E-Bay
* UC buys a 3.5 million dollar property, motor-home, hummer, boat, likes to gamble, likes to race funny cars while shareholders value decreases
* UC at race track almost every weekend
* Spent investors money to sponsor motorcycle and drag racing
* Advertises stock instead of company, Got CMKX
* Voids in records
* UC says he doesn't know how to run a public company
* UC blames others for mismanagement
* SEC investigation and temporary halt
* Lied on form 15 more then 100% off (claimed under 300, had 689)


During the hearing

* Judge ruled that NS is not going to be admitted into evidence
* She asked SEC if they think CMKX has NS and the SEC said no
* When asked by the SEC, TA stated there was no record of CMKX management inquiring into the number of shareholders in July 2003
* RG was paid $250,000 and one page report was presented
* Urban shows up with his own personal lawyer
* Urban invokes his 5th Amendment right to not answer any/all questions asked by the SEC attorneys (12 minutes of "I take the 5th")
* Maheu testifies he was not aware of the problems the new accountant and attorney were having in receiving documentation from Urban to get filings completed.
* Maheu can’t answer question on companies operations
* We find out Urban runs CMKX from his house, not the company PR'd new offices in Las Vegas
* Maheu paid $40,000 a month. Has been paid for 2 months pay even though he has been there 4 months and Judge makes joke about the amount he is paid
* Accountants: all quit after frustration in not being able to do their jobs. Current accountant, Neil Levine, resigns on May 9th one day before the hearing
* Rendal Williams (CEO of UCAD & 50/50 partner with CMKX) has a "failing memory" when questioned on the stand, he apparently is distancing himself from CMKX/Urban Casavant
* Oct. party was in evidence over claims made that didn’t happen
* Green Baron interview played because of claims made in it also
* Carolyn Casavant wrote checks against the company account although she is not an officer of the company, explanation given to the court "that's what wife's do."
* Current financial status, over $30 million in debt
*Judge says this is a filing issue
* Has till 29th of June for rebuttals and decision will be by July 15th

After the hearing

* Two .011 micron size diamonds
* Only 15 holes drilled, nothing found in any except in one hole see above
* Drilling report says to give it up people.
* Company issued PR that 100's of anomalies found from goldak fly over yet 8K states 16 from goldak fly over & some of them may not be worth drilling
* Refuses to give investors basic information on company.
* Refuses to give share structure
* SEC reply says it all
* UC at race track almost every weekend
* Frizzle working on proving NS


CMKX's actual results could differ materially from such forward-looking statements because of factors such as: actual or perceived benefits of the Jarvis report; any findings or recommendations contained in the report; uncertain regulatory scrutiny; the current state of CMKX's operations; unavailability of documentation and corporate records; benefits of the to be commenced summer drilling program; the ability to rebuild financial records; timing necessary to comply with reporting requirements; lack of adequate internal controls; unforeseen capital deficiencies; changes in the mining and metals environment, including actions of competitors; the effectiveness of CMKX's development and drilling programs; regulatory and legal changes; and other risks associated with companies in similar industries. CMKX undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements to reflect current events or circumstances after the date hereof or to reflect the occurrence of unanticipated events.

[ July 10, 2005, 00:14: Message edited by: Ric ]
 
Posted by striper on :
 
Ric thanks for your response. Not looking to go for cmkx and me. But I hold on just in case. At this point it's all or nothing.

striper
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
there ya go again Ric, trying to use facts to explain the riches cmkx holds for the investors. after all this time have you not realized facts have nothing to do with how cmkx will make every investor rich? its based on unreal expectations. the cash comes from citi bank, 30 mining operations, diamond mines on an indian reservation. it comes from scared hedge funds throwing huge amounts at cmkx shareholders to shut them up. it comes from debeers willing to do anything to stop cmkx from becoming king of the diamond world. just think about it...if you were these large powerful organizations what would you do if you saw the cmkx cult coming after you. you'd know the only way to stop iron bob, UC, stocklien, frizzy & the cult is by huge amounts of cash....well either that or extra strong electric shock treatments & bottles of prozac.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Remodeling kitchen, two days of ripping out cabinets, a storage closet, and flooring. I feel like an old man now. Knees hurts, back hurts, and arms hurt. Yet I still have to put everything back now. Any good tips for Monday so I can make enough to hire someone to finish, lol.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
The chit is getting too deep. Might have to buy bigger boots to read much more of this crap.

By: johngo
10 Jul 2005, 12:30 AM EDT
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Jay I totally agree CMKX is nearly an empty shell CIMC is the new enity and don't be surprised if we get suspended for about 45 days, but still go private then public to AMEX let the SEC/DTC take all the NSS and deal with it.

Intersting how Frizzle goes to DC and less the a week later we have a delay...the senate banking committe is powerful and knows about CMKX by Maheu. They IMO will use CMKX as the example of the total incompetence of the SEC/DTC but that is just my opinion...Good Night
 
Posted by ACKCANE on :
 
I don't know how much money you other guys have put into this but I haven't spent $1000 and felt so good about it as I have with CMKX. The entertainment has been phenomenal! It's close to a trip to VEGAS! I may cry when the take it away in a few days, but only because I will miss the insanity.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
http://cmkxjustice.brave host.com/index.html

takeout space

heres a website were the person running the site is trying to get interest in a lawsuit to recoup loses from cmkx. still under construction.
 
Posted by will on :
 
That is worth copying and pasting, Ric:

Did you lose a significant amount of money in your CMKX "investment"?

Are you really pissed off that you fell for the CMKX hype?

Do you think Urban Casavant's conduct during this promotion rises to the level of criminal behavior?

Do you want to nail his fat ass, along with his co-conspirators?

Do you want Dr. Diamonds, Green Baron, Willy Wizard, Sterling, Judy Cline, Accadacca, Carquest, Topogigo, and Jay Adobe to have their day in court?

Are you disgusted with the assclown circus being staged by Frizzell and Martin, and the total lack of results and financial accountability of their efforts?

We are, and we want to do something about it. We want to sue the b*stards.

No, this is not some lame call for a class action suit, where an attorney is the only one to gain. This is an attempt to organize a group of shareholders with significant losses, hire an attorney, and go after the circle of scam companies, their CEO's personal assets, and individuals who we believe are the paid promoters of this pump and dump.

This site is under construction. It will be fully interactive by July 5. Interested? Learn more.
 
Posted by will on :
 
"Do you want Dr. Diamonds, Green Baron, Willy Wizard, Sterling, Judy Cline, Accadacca, Carquest, Topogigo, and Jay Adobe to have their day in court?"
You can add legaleagle, (noah), and the "rightious" miss debbie, (WWJDthruMe), to that list. They probably haven't received free shares from CMKX to pump this pos, but they sure worked the inexperienced new comers over on this board. They might be secondary pumpers, but that's who the paid pumpers mentioned above depend on to do the real recruiting.

"assclown circus", they are also guilty of promoting the second round of money milking from unsuspecting new comers that fell for round one, buying into this pos. Oh wait, we're into round three already, aren't we? Mr. Frizzell, (pronounced, (Friz ZELL), is wetting his beak for a second fee. Again, highly recommending and heavily promoted by second echelon of the pumping orginization under the guise of the O/G.

[ July 10, 2005, 10:52: Message edited by: will ]
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
noahltl

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posted on 10-7-2005 at 11:05 AM

Before you judge Urban and CMKX


By: stockpicks3
10 Jul 2005, 12:55 AM EDT
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Tough Questions


Question 1:

If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had 8 kids already, three
who
were
deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, and she had
syphilis,would
you recommend that she have an abortion?

Read the next question before looking at the response for this one.


Question 2:

It is time to elect a new world leader, and only your vote counts.
Here
are
the facts about the three candidates.


Candidate A.


Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologist.
He's
had
two mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a
day.


Candidate B.


He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in
college
and drinks a quart of whiskey every evening.


Candidate C.
He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks
an
occasional beer and never cheated on his wife.Which of these
candidates
would be your choice? Decide first... no peeking, then scroll down for
the
response.


Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Candidate B is Winston Churchill.

Candidate C is Adolph Hitler.


And, by the way, on your answer to the abortion question: If you said
YES,
you just killed Beethoven.


Pretty interesting isn't it? Makes a person think before judging someone.


Wait till you see the end of this note! Keep reading...


Never be afraid to try something new.

Remember: Amateurs...built the ark.

Professionals...built the Titanic

And Finally, can you imagine working for a company that has a little more
than 500 employees and has the following statistics:

29 have been accused of spousal abuse

7 have been arrested for fraud

19 have been accused of writing bad checks

117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses

3 have done time for assault

71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit

14 have been arrested on drug-related charges

8 have been arrested for shoplifting

21 are currently defendants in lawsuits

84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year...

Can you guess which organization this is?

Give up yet?

It's the 535 members of the United States Congress. The same group
that
cranks out hundreds of new laws each year designed to keep the rest of us in line.


"There is an appointed time for everything, and a time for every affair under the heavens" Ecc 3,1
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
I would love to see some attorney step up and take this case on a contingency basis. It would be a pleasure to see a lot of these people doing time and losing their houses.
Vindictive? Damn right I'm vindictive, and I'm tired of being ripped off.
"I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it anymore"

Go get em.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
There ya go, now you guys can have your own OG. You can see by the language that this is a highly professional group that speaks with the same level of intelligence that many here do. Seems perfect to me.......get out your checkbooks.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
I would love to see some attorney step up and take this case on a contingency basis. It would be a pleasure to see a lot of these people doing time and losing their houses.
Vindictive? Damn right I'm vindictive, and I'm tired of being ripped off.
"I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it anymore"

Go get em.

But you want him to take it on contingency???? LOL Aren't you mad enough to get in your pocket like the serious owners group did?
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
NO
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ok legal, i read noahs post. can i judge UC now??? if so my judgement is either a complete moron or a con man. someone that has done nothing in the best interests of the shareholders. a person that has either lied or diliberately misinformed the investing public. a person that only cares about himself & not the ppl that had faith in him, proven when given the choice of answering questions & owning up to his either mistakes or criminal actions pleaded the 5th. i can understand not saying anything if he was hiding criminal actions but not if cmkx problems are a result of his mistakes. a man owns up to his mistakes even more so when those mistakes may cause others to lose big money.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if your going to sue you never pay the lawyer up front. you make him earn his cut first.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Thanks for the support, Bill, you hit the nail right on the head. If a lawyer believes in a cause, he will take the case on a contingency basis, not charge $250 an hour on a maybe.

There is a big discussion going on right now on PB32 about sending Frizz money. Everybody seems afraid to post why NOT to send him money.

First, CMKX is one tiny step from revocation.
Second, what Frizz is finding will have no bearing on the case.
Third, once the revocation is announced, all of Frizz's work becomes a moot point.

So, to use the words I hate most:
IMO, anyone who sends money to Frizz is chasing bad money with good.
Stand up and take it like men. You've been ripped off by experts. Money lost, better luck next time.

And taking on the government? Not a good idea, as the old adage says, "You cant fight city hall". Mess around enough with a government agency and they will sic the dogs on you.

It may take a while for most of those folks, but eventually reality will sink in and they will move on.

End of conversation, no argumentative replies necessary. Just as I cant change the cult's mind, they cant change mine either.

Best of luck with your NEXT investment.
 
Posted by DiQuiRiesco on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Otttoman:
There are many negatives with CMKX which is obvious, but also some positives, IMO. Only time will tell for sure, but it's like any other stock on the market, risky and a gamble. Maybe more like the lottery with miserable odds but a great payday if luck is on your side. In any case, I'd rather take a shot at the golden ring and fail, than never have even tried at all. It's easier to sit on the sidelines and criticize the players, than to actually play the game. It doesnt matter if you win or lose, but how you played the game, and crybaby spectators go home with nothing regarless of the outcome. If your in you win, if you doubt get out.

It does matter if you win or lose nitwit... this is the stock market. People are here to make money. If you honestly don't care if you win or lose then maybe you should tryy lawn darts and leave the market to the grown ups.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
ok legal, i read noahs post. can i judge UC now??? if so my judgement is either a complete moron or a con man. someone that has done nothing in the best interests of the shareholders. a person that has either lied or diliberately misinformed the investing public. a person that only cares about himself & not the ppl that had faith in him, proven when given the choice of answering questions & owning up to his either mistakes or criminal actions pleaded the 5th. i can understand not saying anything if he was hiding criminal actions but not if cmkx problems are a result of his mistakes. a man owns up to his mistakes even more so when those mistakes may cause others to lose big money.

Where has Urban lied or misinformed? I recently re-read the PRs to see if he had. The closest anyone can come, is over "filing". Last fall he had Roger Glenn working on getting filings and was announcing the work on such, but then we were hit with the USCA suspension and investigation (btw:no charges filed). When that one ended, we brought on IBM to get the process working. Again SEC suspensions were brought prematurely to stop us from filing as we prepared to file. (And that's the best they could find.) Even the one filing we were able to put in the record is still short the Table 1, that failed to make it through the SEC's Edgar, and goes still unpublished. Then the SEC fails to bring in the witnesses who could set the record straight, DeSormeau, Edwards, and Dvorak; and instead opt to interrogate Urban who probably had never made an entry in the books in his life. No wonder he took the fifth. If the USCA and CMKX debacles doesn't convince anyone of an SEC witch hunt, then they go after SGGM.

But back to the "lying and misinformation". Show me the lies in a PR. In reality, the only lies in CMKX at this time are those from the people who deluded themselves by reading "into" the PR, or believing the "race track rumors", or posting the negatively designed lies and criminal libel that permeate this board.
 
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Posted by Legaleagle:
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Show me the lies in a PR.
No real lies in this one but I'll start off with it just cause it was my favorite:

Temporary Drilling Delay at Fort a la Corne for Casavant Mining Kimberlite International
10/30/2003 9:30:00 AM
LAS VEGAS, Oct 30, 2003 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Casavant Mining Kimberlite International (Pink Sheets: CMKM) regrets to inform its shareholders that the company's exploration efforts in Fort a la Corne have been temporarily set back in their schedule for electro magnetic surveying and the drilling which was to commence late last week. The delay is from unexpected magnetic storms caused by "sunspots" or explosions on the sun, as reported by numerous sources recently on the news and Internet. Scientists observed the biggest explosion in 30 years on Tuesday, which produced a particle cloud 13 times larger than Earth and hurtled through the solar system at more than 1 million miles per hour. The geomagnetic storm is expected to disrupt communication satellites, television transmissions, GPS navigation and possibly the flow of electricity in some areas.


Next, this one contained an outright lie:


Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Announces that Spin-Out Company CMI To Go Public Within Two Weeks
12/8/2003 9:08:03 AM
LAS VEGAS, Dec 08, 2003 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via Comtex/ -- On August 22, 2003 Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Board of Directors announced the approval of the spin-out of corporate zinc deposits at George Lake, Saskatchewan, its wholly owned subsidiary Casavant Mining International, Inc. (CMI). CMKM shareholders received a dividend of one share of CMI stock for every share of CMKM stock on October 3, 2003.

Casavant Mining International, Inc. (CMI) is currently private but plans to go public within two weeks. Details of company going public will be announced shortly.


No outright lies in this one but certainly deceitful, remember the timing.

CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces 'Carolyn Pipe' Lab Results Confirm Diamondiferous Kimberlite
6/10/2004 6:26:00 PM
LAS VEGAS, Jun 10, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) is very excited to announce that the "Carolyn Pipe" is confirmed to be diamondiferous.

Saskatchewan Research Council (SRC), an independent lab located in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan reported to the company today that the core samples from the "Carolyn Pipe" has come back positive for diamond content. The "Carolyn Pipe" is located on the jointly owned Smeaton property in Saskatchewan, Canada held by CMKM Diamonds Inc., being the primary operator of the claims, United Carina Resources Corp. ( UCA ), Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp. ( KPG ) and U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. ( UCAD ).

Here's one with an outright lie, note the Green Lake comment where they couldn't drill because of the ice. This was on May 27th! I called a fishing lodge on Green Lake that day and was told that he had fishing parties at the lodge and the ice was gone a month prior:

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Update on Carolyn Pipe and Targets Selected for Drilling on Green Lake
5/27/2004 9:30:00 AM
LAS VEGAS, May 27, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) is pleased to announce that the Company has completed the first phase of drilling of the "Carolyn Pipe" in the Fort a la Corne, Saskatchewan area. Five holes were drilled, of which four intersected kimberlite.

Drill hole #1 intersected 428 feet of kimberlite. Drill hole #2, north of hole #1, intersected about 246 feet of kimberlite. Drill hole #3, east of hole #1, did not intersect any kimberlite. Drill hole #4, west of hole #1, intersected 206 feet of kimberlite. Drill hole #5, north of #4, hole approx. 226 feet of kimberlite, although there is a 15 foot interval of mudstone in the kimberlite, which may be a layer of sediment laid between two episodes of kimberlitic volcanism. Thinner layers of mudstone in the kimberlite in other holes may also be either blocks or layers of sediment.

The kimberlite intervals from holes #1 and #2 have been split and half of the core has been sent to an independent laboratory for microdiamond analysis by total dissolution. The results are expected soon and further work on the "Carolyn Pipe" will depend on those results.

The Company would also like to announce an update on the Green Lake claims, which are located in the province of Saskatchewan. The core drilling at the Green Lake claims has been delayed and will not commence, at this time, because of the possible difficulties of drilling the target through the ice. The Green Lake claims were targeted for core drilling prior to the kimberlite find, at the "Carolyn Pipe", but further examination of the drill location indicated swift currents below the surface of the ice which may have caused considerable damage to the drill equipment. It had been determined that drilling other priority targets would be in the best interest for the drilling program, while further research to achieve a successful core drilling for this target can be attained


That's all for now but there's many more available if anyone's interested.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
i bet those croutons are "E" and and all the cmk? faithful have been eating 'em [Big Grin]
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
"Casavant Mining International, Inc. (CMI) is currently private but plans to go public within two weeks. Details of company going public will be announced shortly."

Notice the word "plans". Plans change based on current business environment.


"Announces 'Carolyn Pipe' Lab Results Confirm Diamondiferous Kimberlite".

It was diamondiferous. Did you read in more than it said. And we also still have the cores locked up in a secured warehouse. I didn't see any wording about the "motherload" but many wanted it to be. And it "may" be the motherload, and the reason for "secuing" it in AZTM, another Dhonau company.


"and the ice was gone a month prior" The decision to stop drilling probably preceeded the announcement of cessation by some time. Note that it is almost an addendum to the primary report.
 
Posted by will on :
 
"It was diamondiferous. Did you read in more than it said."

Well, I remember when that PR'd, you and little miss WWJDthruMe, sure did read more into than it said. Y'll listened to that fool Melvin, with the splooge on his desk.

Why even bother, you can't win with this horse's ass.

From your own mouth, noah:
"there you go assuming again. You don't know what the company is doing. You are only seeing what you want to see, or what supports your contentions." That's exactly what you do, and have been doing for over a year.

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Posted by legaleagle on :
 
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And the SEC is going to use your money to grandfather more fails to deliver, protect naked shorters, try and dematerialize paper certificates, make transfer agents disappear, limit the DTC's and their own liability, and revoke the registration of our stock.

Please support John's and Bill's efforts during phase II, if for no better reason than to help negate the effects of the money that you're going to send to the SEC tomorrow!

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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Legal, the SEC referred to activities of CMKX as being "fraudulent". Frankly, they were being kind in that description.

I prefer the term deceptive. Webster's provides synonyms of "fraud, double-dealing, under handedness, subterfuge and trickery" to the term "deception" Too bad Webster did not include "lies" because that fits too.

Everything that came out of CMKX in the form of legitimate PRs was with UC's tacit approval. That includes Melvin's statements. We all know what was said and published as PR. As far as reading more into it than was there, it was you faithful cult members who got carried away with every stupid little detail or rumor. In every case those details/rumors were misleading or grossly false....including the number of O/S.

One of the most deceptive things was to increase the Authorized to 800 billion shares without telling shareholders until they had found out that fact for themselves. Until you faithful could figure out a new spin (a presumed takeover attempt) that kept your mouths shut. Many of us heard the silence of the faithful. That was just one of the instances where the faithful cult members were stunned into silence.

How about telling us things that Urban Casavant said that were not lies or were not deceptive....and provide positive proof. I am not speaking about didly squat things, but MEANINGFUL things important to shareholders. Things they have been begging to hear and are entitled to know. Shall we start with the location of the company offices which he attested to on official documents signed by him.
How about Melvin who supposedly (according to UC) would always be with CMKX? Just a white one? How about that flyover which included other companies' claims, but somehow that fact got left out of CMKX's PR? Just where is that damn "warehouse" with such a valuable find? Wait! That came from Melvin who worked PR for UC, and if true, must still be kept secret. BS!

Time and time again either Melvin, UC or someone else made a statement or released a PR and you faithful cult members distorted it all to hell and back with some kind of positive spin. Look where that got you! To the eve of revocation. Now you are taking another spin angle with CIM or with NSS. One is as ignorant as the other in the sense of doing anything positive for CMKX publicly suckered shareholders.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
UC stated on the green baron interview that CMKX was further ahead in filing then expected. he hadn't done anything yet to be filing. what did RG send..1 sheet, it said no files. no auditor ever hired since 2002. NOTHING was done towards filing. now maybe it was a play on words. he might have bought some office supplies to begin making up financial records & he hadn't planned on getting that far along yet. as for the SEC not calling the witnesses you named legal, the ones you say could have set things straight, why didn't CMKX call them? they also had the chance to call witnesses. ya think maybe cmkx didn't want them on a witness stand? ya think maybe it would have been more taking the 5th going on? i'd bet thats all they would have done. roger glenn could not be called, he was cmkx's lawyer. there has been nothing from cmkx that is completely honest. all half truths. they have stated the SEC wants them to shut up about normal investor info, melvin screamed the o/s was not 400 billion, the diamondferious chit. just about every single cmkx pr had something in it that needed a lawyer to explain. the second gemm divy that was never handed out. they cancel the first divy about noon on the pay date & move it to the second divy pay date then shut up about it. the only mistake was the fine print on the OTC announcement pages, it gave away the scam. every OTC posting about gemm pay date in the fine print on the bottom refered back the the first gemm divy. the second gemm divy was never scheduled for a pay date.
 
Posted by Otttoman on :
 
I love this board. One slightly positive post and I've alrady been called a pinhead, loser, and nitwit, LOL. In most cases I'd take offense, but in this case I just consider the source, LMFAO. I actually feel honored that someone would respond to my post 4 pages later, again LMFAO. Bashers enabling bashers is what it amounts to. I'd just like to know why so many people would waste so much time bashing a worthless, soon to be evoked stock like CMKX. Talk about beating a dead horse. I can at least understand the koolaide drinking cult members (as this board so cleverly calls them) point of view, since they have something positive to hope for assuming they own stock. What's in it for the bashers on this board, even if CMKX is evoked, suspended, Casavant goes to jail, whatever? To all the bashers and nay-sayers, if you want to see a real pinhead, loser, or nitwit just look in the mirror, then get a life already, LMFAO. Allright, I've set the stage...get ready, get set, Bash.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Well, I am sure Legal thought posting this was proof of good things for CMKX but actually this PR proves a lot of lies (fibs). The big one being, by announcing the Cert pull and registering of shares would be a good thing, heres another example of why UC should have known there was more then 300 shareholders. At least you would think they would have checked it out after asking more people to register in there name or pull cert. To me, this helps prove that they filed a false form 15 knowingly. I let others comment on the other parts of the PR that is of trouble.


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posted on 7/11/2005 at 12:02 AM

2003 PR IN WHICH UC ENCOURAGES CERT PULL


http://www.casavantmining.com/news.asp?offset=100

SECOND PARAGRAPH

Business Editors

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 7, 2003

Casavant Mining Kimberlite International Inc. (OTCBB:CMKI) announced today a series of corporate initiatives in advance of the January 15, 2003 majority shareholder meeting to be held in Las Vegas, NV.

First, CMKI is encouraging every shareholder to hold his shares in certificate form and if the shares are held in street name to make sure that he registers the shares in his own name to make sure the shareholder is properly identified in the official shareholder's audit that is being conducted by the Company and its Transfer Agent. The purpose of the audit is to make sure that every shareholder of record is identified for purposes of the CMKI's mandatory share and cash dividend policy. The share and cash dividend policy is explained below in fuller detail.

Second, CMKI will be contacting the broker-dealer and market maker community to request their cooperation in the shareholder audit. In this regard, CMKI has identified the following market-makers who are active in the Company's shares based on information obtained on January 6, 2003 at www.otc.bb.com, as follows:

AGIS Aegis Capital Corp.
BAMM Brokerage America, Inc.
BMAS BMA Securities
BPAT Baird, Patrick & Co., Inc.
CLYN Carlin Equities Corp.
DOMS Domestic Securities, Inc.
FRAN Wm. V. Frankel & Co., Inc.
GNET Globenet Securities, Inc. (1)
GNLN Gunallen Financial, Inc.
GVRC GVR Company LLC
HILL Hill Thompson Magid, L.P.
JEFF Jeffries & Company, Inc.
LTCO Ladenburg, Thalman & Co., Inc.
MAYF May Financial Corporation
MHMY M. H. Meyerson & Co., Inc.
NAIB Global Partners Securities Inc.
NATL National Securities Corporation
NITE Knight Securities, L.P.
PGON Paragon Capital Markets, Inc.
PILL Phillip Louis Trading Corp.
PRGM Program Trading Corp.
PUGS Puglisi & Co.
QUIN Park Financial Group, Inc.
SCHB Schwab Capital Markets, L.P.
SEAB Seabord Securities, Inc.
TDCM T.D. Waterhouse Capital Markets
VFIN Vfinance Investments, Inc.
(1) Globenet Securities, Inc. was an active market maker during part of the trading day on January 6, 2003, but later "excused" itself from market making activities.

Third, CMKI has been informed that majority shareholders plan on holding their shares in certificate form indefinitely if it helps the Company combat "naked short selling". Under a naked short sale, short positions are not declared, shares are not borrowed to cover the short sale, and the shares are sold without delivering the stock to the purchaser. Real shareholder ownership is undermined by naked short sales of stock and failed deliveries of real certificates that artificially inflate ownership and devalue the price of the securities.

Fourth, CMKI, as previously announced, plans on approving at its majority shareholder meeting a mandatory share and cash dividend policy. The share dividend policy reflects the Company's acquisition strategy that identifies undervalued take-over targets in mineral resource and related businesses. The Company is currently evaluating 7 companies each of whom will benefit from new managerial economic assessment, asset appraisals, accounting peer review and legal restructuring.

Fifth, CMKI believes that its shareholders and the targeted company's shareholders will best benefit from a "cross-dividend" policy. For example, if CMKI acquires a new target company in an exchange of shares, CMKI will pay its shareholders a mandatory 8% dividend of the total number of shares exchanged with the new target company. The shareholders of the new target company will be treated with the same fairness and therefore will be entitled to receive a mandatory 8% dividend of the total number of CMKI shares exchanged with the new target company. Since the mining and mineral resources business is highly fragmented, CMKI believes that its acquisition strategy will provide a way to leverage its assets into a larger more diversified portfolio of companies.

Sixth, CMKI believes that its cross-dividend policy will result in share dividends being issued in the 3Q03. The legal audit of its shareholders of record will speed up this process. Further, CMKI has structured its mandatory 10% cash dividend policy (which is based on its net earnings) to benefit those shareholders of record on the declared dividend date.

Seventh, CMKI believes that its acquisition strategy, spearheaded by the Casavant Family, will require the addition of a seasoned management team. Accordingly, the Board of Directors has nominated Jay McFadden to become Vice-Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, David Bending as President and Chief Operation Officer, and Rick Taulli as Secretary. Messrs. McFadden, Bending and Taulli are currently affiliated with Juina Mining Corporation. See www.juinamining.com. The Board of Directors has nominated David DeSorneau as Treasurer. Mr. DeSorneau was previously a consultant to CMKI. See December 3, 2002 Press Release. The nominations will be voted upon by the majority shareholders at the January 15, 2003 meeting.

Eighth, CMKI will be a featured guest on the news talk radio show "Not for Widows and Orphans", hosted by international economist Mike King at Princeton Research, Inc. The radio talk show is broadcast live via the internet every Sunday evening. The talk show schedule is available at www.princetonresearch.com .

FORWARD LOOKING STATEMENTS

This Press Release contains "forward looking" statements as that term is defined by Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, (the "Securities Act") and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, (the "Exchange Act"). All statements that are included in this Press Release other than statements of historical fact are "forward looking" statements. Although Management believes that the expectations reflecting in these forward looking statements are reasonable. It can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the expectations as disclosed herein, including without limitation, in conjunction with these forward looking statements contained in this Press Release.

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COPYRIGHT 2003 Gale Group
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Also, remember the SEC apparently found something askew that was not part of the hearing. I sure do hope they shed some light on that subject or bring it to the attention of authorities that will do so. My guess is some other kind of illegal activity.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Why should UC be stressed out. He made over 80 million dollars selling shares and he put the blame off on NSS and the SEC. I would be happy to all the way to the bank.

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posted on 7/9/2005 at 12:05 AM

Does UC sound stressed out? I think NOT! .........


Bill Frizzell stated in today's CMKX Owners Group Update:

"I talked with UC on Tuesday and Wednesday. He again expressed his intentions to get these matters behind us. We have agreed to revisit a trip to Ecuador and Canada after this revocation proceeding is settled or ruled upon."

To get these above stated matters "behind us" means that at some point we are ahead...so to speak. By "ahead" means we (as a company/entity, assets, and shareholders, etc., etc.) are alive and kicking. In addition, the comment "we have agreed to revisit a trip to Ecuador and Canada after this revocation proceeding is settled or ruled upon" tells me that life will go on as usual. No matter how you slice it, Urban does not seem to be overly concerned or stressed out for that matter......even to those that are closer to him than the average lay Shareholder.....such as is the case with Bill Frizzell. Again, all of the above is IMHO.

God Bless to all!

Peter
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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Well, Ottoman,

You have been with those CT people too long. Just being hooked on the word "evoked" tells me that much. As you said, "LMFAO"!!! Glad you're intrigued and humored by this thread anyway. Good luck to you.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Obviously you haven't been reading the board. Its not that this is a scam. Most people know that and leave it alone. Legal wants it to sound like theres only 5 people in the world that say something negative about this.

But it really is none of the above or below. It's entertainment. There are some very good investors here and this (not sure what to call it) has been a great source of laughs, fun, entertainment among a group of regulars. Hey, even legal likes it and us or he wouldn't keep coming back for the abuse, lol.


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Originally posted by Otttoman:
I love this board. One slightly positive post and I've alrady been called a pinhead, loser, and nitwit, LOL. In most cases I'd take offense, but in this case I just consider the source, LMFAO. I actually feel honored that someone would respond to my post 4 pages later, again LMFAO. Bashers enabling bashers is what it amounts to. I'd just like to know why so many people would waste so much time bashing a worthless, soon to be evoked stock like CMKX. Talk about beating a dead horse. I can at least understand the koolaide drinking cult members (as this board so cleverly calls them) point of view, since they have something positive to hope for assuming they own stock. What's in it for the bashers on this board, even if CMKX is evoked, suspended, Casavant goes to jail, whatever? To all the bashers and nay-sayers, if you want to see a real pinhead, loser, or nitwit just look in the mirror, then get a life already, LMFAO. Allright, I've set the stage...get ready, get set, Bash.


 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Hell, Ottoman, I was called all kinds of names too...including loser, liar, azzhole and a variety of others. And, that was by most of the people over on that CT forum right now. Welcome to high society!
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Isn't it funny though Wallace that the ones that stand up and preach the loudest tend to be the meanest when you don't agree with them.

And as I stated many times Ottoman, if I didn't know for 100% that this was a scam to rip investors, I wouldn't have fun with it.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Wow over 3000 worthless posts. I am going to be up there with Will and Glassman soon. But then too if my last name hadn't messed up, I would already be there.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Hell, Ottoman, I was called all kinds of names too...including loser, liar, azzhole and a variety of others. And, that was by most of the people over on that CT forum right now. Welcome to high society!

The byrd isn't at Christian Traders. Could you please provide a link to an old post where CT folks called you anything other than "WRONG".
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
The byrd has been at CT and was welcomed by all of you clowns with open arms. As far as providing links to posts, I cannot be bothered with things you should very well remember but, as with CMKX, UC, Roger Glen, DeSormeau, Dhonau, Maheu and others, refuse to do so.

I don't believe I have ever come across a more stubborn and blind, single minded person in my entire 66 years. Yes, legal, I am sorry to say that with all your other attributes, you are an outright fool.

I truly feel sorry for anyone you came in contact with on the police force that YOU thought was guilty of some offense. I swear, you would have spun a yarn for 30 years in jail at the least....no matter how innocent. That should really be checked out wherever you were.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Who cares where they are. The fact is that none of them have the balls to use the same name in two places. Makes it look like two people with the same opinion. At least I use the same name everywhere.
Take your links and shove em where the sun dont shine.
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
I was just wondering what and where you people are going to go once cmkx bites the dust. There are a million penny scams going on, so let me know which board you all migrate to so I can keep my daily entertainment going .. okay.
S5
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
I'm considering NCDP.
Looks like it might need bashing shortly...
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I know most here are into penny stocks but heres one you might want to keep an eye on. 100% above pps buyout offer. Got to love the excitement of poker now also and the TV rev's are skyrocketing.

WPT Enterprises halted; co. acknowledges takeover bid



12:54:08 PM ET 7/8/2005

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Trading in shares of WPT Enterprises (WPTE) was halted on Friday after the Los Angeles-based owner of The World Poker Tour acknowledged its receipt of an unsolicited acquisition proposal that values it at $700 million. The stock was up almost 60% to $28.20 before the halt after the offer was first reported in The New York Post. The article says the bid is from a private group led by poker player Doyle Brunson. According to the Post, the proposal would value WPT shares roughly double Thursday's closing price of $17.75. WPT said in its brief press release that it's attempting to verify the credibility of the offer, which doesn't specify terms, before beginning the process of evaluating it.
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
Is that mining...seems mining's hot right now.
It's fairly hard to verify pr's. Creative and many pr's is usually a clue to a potential scam co. I've been finding a pattern when a company is INC'd in Nevada, has almost daily pr's and shows any number of reverse splits in it's history. Reverse splits usually includes a name change....it's a way to make your stock worthless much cheaper than merging shell companies.
S5
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Ed, looks like MLON is getting ready to scam again too. Already seen a new thread. Mario stepped down as president but it also stated he is still part of the company. Looks like a way to get by the SEC because Mario had to approve all PR's through them after being caught for big lies. Sounds too much like a backdoor workaround so they can start selling shares again for profit.
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
you have to be careful, 'buyouts' is starting to be the new false PR catch phrase. I'm watching another couple of stocks and they are on the edge of indictment for false pr filing. Using the buyout line, but no one can prove anything, but the stocks pps are shooting up.
This one is an almost new pump dump line.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Well, I am up on this one and its not. Now the WPT doesn't won't bought out either. This is not a penny stock. It's a NASDAQ and the World Poker Tour is very hot. A lot of people are very interested in it. ESPN and the Travel Channel has been making a killing on ratings for the series. The person that is offering the buyout is one of the legends of poker and has written more books and made more money then any other pro poker player. And, I would bet he can get any backing he wants. One company owns 60% of the shares so there was no way to do a hostile takeover. A buyout offer was the only way to do it.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Better watch it there Stockster, I will have to give you 5 stars, lol. Isn't it real cold on the southwest quadrant?

If you don't question the motive of a PR then you aren't doing DD.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Stockster, If I can give you 2 5's and your still at 2 stars, someone or some group was really peeved at you, lol.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
I may bash the crap out of the pennies, but I'll never put money in them again.
Been stung to often, with little or no chance of gain. Maybe if the SEC gets strait, but DD doent mean anything in pennies. The companies lie too much.
Close....hahaha.....SOON....OMG quit it you're killin me...hahahaha...fifth amendment? Oh thats too much, my ribs hurt...hahahaha....and all this time I thought urban meant living in the city.....oh ahahahahaha
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
Well, wpt I can maybe buy 2 shares....... won't make much with that.

Maybe I can delete my stars, i dunno
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Buy CMKX stockster. I only have 1.17 in cash in my account, everything else is tied up but that would still get me about 23,000 shares. Think about it, invest a buck, get back thousands!
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Thousands of what?
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
sheets of toilet paper
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
T-10 or less & no word from cmkx. but then since the only way to make cmkx shareholders millionaires is to be revoked the cult is overjoyed. their wait is getting close to its payoff..............ya know the fact that i just put those words together in that order in a sentence is mind-boggling. its even more mind numbing to know that i could get hundreds of ppl to chear that statement, if i took the cult part out.....i own shares of a stock, its getting revoked so i may never be able to sell those shares. but its all good because the guy that didn't make sure things were done correctly from day 1 loves his shareholders & wants only good things for them.........seriously there has to be more then kool-aide involved in that thinking.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
is it the full moon already??? i thought it was the 21st.


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Tony, There's no reason to revoke. This is a well-written script of smoke and mirrors. The SEC wants us to go away, but they haven't covered all their bases. We never needed to file. We were an exploration company with less than 300 shareholders. Since it has already been publicly uncovered, I'll reiterate it. The 360 certs issued as stated in the transcript from the hearing were "S" restricted certs, and therefore were not part of the total shareholder count. Mr. Casavant and his team know exactly what they are doing. Even the filing to go non-reporting was all part of the plan. It is unfolding precisely as written. Soon enough all will be revealed. I stand by this statement: we cannot legally be revoked. It is not in the best interest of the SEC, the nation, the financial markets, or the company. Of course IMO Additionally, refer to the hearing transcript and find the name of the lady in reference to "S" restricted shares discussed by Ms. Bagley. Research who that lady is. Find out which First Nation Band she resides in. Why did they only discuss "S" restricted shares in the hearing? Why did the cross examination not include questioning about what types of restrictions are placed on shares? Connect the dots. First Nation...360...72...5..."S"...field work...exploration company. Instead of sitting on this board, do some reading. Quit listening to the naysayers and dooms day boys. We are in a stock of a lifetime in a position that has never occurred before. Find the positive. It's out there in every situation. Just depends on your outlook on life. Of course, IMO
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
seriously there has to be more then kool-aide involved in that thinking.
I don't think they're drinking it anymore, they're snorting it dry now.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
why do us basher keep posting on cmkx??? here's why...notice this is the guyts first post. $875.00 flushed.


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Just bought 12,500,000 @.00007. took ten minutes.Zions Investment.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
all i can say is...ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!


Appreciation Thread for Mr. Casavant and Mr. Maheu
« Thread Started on Today at 12:41am »

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Express your Appreciation to Mr. Casavant and Mr. Maheu for their unyielding dedication to the goal of bringing about justice for the many wrongs that have been committed against both CMKM and its investors.

Mr. Casavant and Mr. Maheu can read the outpouring of appreciation in one place.

Remember, it is because of what is in the ground... Mr. Casavant had the vision and courage to start building this soon to be 800lbs Mining Gorilla. Mr. Maheu is the best Closer around (He has NEVER lost a case before ANY regulatory agency... county, city, state, or federal).

Thank you Mr. Casavant and Mr. Maheu. And kudos to the Team that you have assembled.

Cheers,

Task Force Viking
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
By: jay_adobe
11 Jul 2005, 01:12 PM EDT
Msg. 1032261 of 1032676
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Additionally, refer to the hearing transcript and find the name of the lady in reference to "S" restricted shares discussed by Ms. Bagley. Research who that lady is. Find out which First Nation Band she resides in. Why did they only discuss "S" restricted shares in the hearing? Why did the cross examination not include questioning about what types of restrictions are placed on shares? Connect the dots. First Nation...360...72...5..."S"...field work...exploration company. Instead of sitting on this board, do some reading. Quit listening to the naysayers and dooms day boys. We are in a stock of a lifetime in a position that has never occurred before. Find the positive. It's out there in every situation. Just depends on your outlook on life. Of course, IMO
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
7. Securities offered and sold outside the United States in accordance with Regulation S need not be registered under the Act. See Release No. 33-6863. Regulation S may be relied upon for such offers and sales even if coincident offers and sales are made in accordance with Regulation D inside the United States. Thus, for example, persons who are offered and sold securities in accordance with Regulation S would not be counted in the calculation of the number of purchasers under Regulation D. Similarly, proceeds from such sales would not be included in the aggregate offering price. The provisions of this note, however, do not apply if the issuer elects to rely solely on Regulation D for offers or sales to persons made outside the United States.
http://sec.gov/divisions/corpfin/forms/regd.htm
 
Posted by will on :
 
bill, UC and IBM are probably sitting there looking at the praises from these goofs thinking, "how dumb are these b*stards. What do we have to do to them before we're bad guys, kill their families?

LOL
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
You can argue the S restriction all you want. It still don't change the fact that there was 698 shareholders of record at the time. And arguing that your to stupid to look up the shareholders of record is stupid in itself. Also by filing the NT 10-Q and 8-K and form 14C in 2003, you obligated your filings for the entire year.

People like phxgold and Jay only look at parts of the regs that benefit there needs. They seem to ignore the rest. Also the exploratory exemption is only for part one of the 10-K ( you still have to file a 10-Q just not part 1, duh) and doesn't apply to 10-Q or any other filing like S-8's that would have shown dilution. Also the exploratory exemption means you have very little valuation which none of you will believe is true. You can't have it both ways.
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
one glaring delusion from the cmkx group is that this cmkx issue is important to the world. It is so far unimportant to the outside world it's embarrassing. It does prove that the koolaiders are in their own little world.......
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
why don't they go to the sec site and see the loooong list that sec deals with every day.
 
Posted by will on :
 
"People like phxgold and Jay only look at parts of the regs that benefit there needs. They seem to ignore the rest. Also the exploratory exemption is only for part one of the 10-K ( you still have to file a 10-Q just not part 1, duh) and doesn't apply to 10-Q or any other filing like S-8's that would have shown dilution. Also the exploratory exemption means you have very little valuation which none of you will believe is true. You can't have it both ways."

Ric, would you say they are guilty of what legal accused you of here?

"Ric, there you go assuming again. You don't know what the company is doing. You are only seeing what you want to see, or what supports your contentions." A quote from legal, (noah), accusing you of taking things out of context, that's what the faithful have been doing for over a year.

Kind of sweet when an idiot diagnoses and identifies his own idiocy.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Oh My these cult members have really lost touch with reality.

Appreciation Thread for Mr. Casavant and Mr. Maheu
« Thread Started on Today at 12:41am »

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Express your Appreciation to Mr. Casavant and Mr. Maheu for their unyielding dedication to the goal of bringing about justice for the many wrongs that have been committed against both CMKM and its investors.

Those 2 clowns have taken them for all they can, have bent them over the barrel and taken all, now they want to thank them for it.

We should be signing a petition to put these 2 clowns in jail for a very long time to show our appreciation.

Apreciation for crooks, what's next [Big Grin] Are people really that stupid to be giving thanks to Urban et al ?
 
Posted by will on :
 
LOL !!!

These people are amazing, Doc. Raped, pillaged, bludgeoned, beat, violated, cheated, plundered, and out and out stolen from, and they glorify, praise, and gratefully thank the perpetrator. Like I said early, UC and IBM are probably spitting their drinks through their noses, wondering, "wtf does it take to piss these people off."

AMAZING !!! LOL !!!
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
I found it. I finally found a picture of UC, but just found out this board won't let you upload anything, or an image.
rats
S5
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
I would gamble that 95 percent of the koolaid crowd voted for bush too...............
just saw a bumper sticker....."when Clinton lied, nobody died....
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
UC problably said this was so easy how can I start a new one after this. I bet he get more entertainment out of pb32 then we do, lol.


quote:
Originally posted by will:
LOL !!!

These people are amazing, Doc. Raped, pillaged, bludgeoned, beat, violated, cheated, plundered, and out and out stolen from, and they glorify, praise, and gratefully thank the perpetrator. Like I said early, UC and IBM are probably spitting their drinks through their noses, wondering, "wtf does it take to piss these people off."

AMAZING !!! LOL !!!


 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockster5:
I found it. I finally found a picture of UC, but just found out this board won't let you upload anything, or an image.
rats
S5

Stockster, I posted one here right after you mentioned it. Halfway down page 3.
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
That's exactly what happens time after time. These people figure out how to play the game, and move on to the next. Might be mining, maybe biotech doesn't matter, it's all in the PR.

S5
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
legal, was that a link to a webpage, nothing showing on my browser, and I can't invoke it as well.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
You can upload picture if its a approved website. Here is a bunch of cult members.

http://www.jdmerlin.com/underground.htm


Casavant is the one with his hat around backwards.


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Posted by will on :
 
...and he's holding up a piece of two colored scented dog crap that he baked in the sun for a month, and just told that idiot with him it is Diamondiferous Kimberlite.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Looks like the British guy from "Who Killed Roger Rabbit".
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Thats exactly what I thought to Ed, lol.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
By: phxgold
11 Jul 2005, 09:14 PM EDT
Msg. 236336 of 236341
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Ok Quick question
If someone recieves restricted shares of a company would they be considered a shareholder of record before that restriction was lifted and the shares were registered?


Im thinking no. They would be on the register but not registered owners until the restriction is lifted although they would be on the books.
I ask because 698-360 from jan 03 = 338
then casavant family had 144 shares that is 22 people
so 338-22=316
then maj shareholders held 85.7% but not more than 4.9% a piece so that 17 shareholders so 316-17=298
then there is uc as 5% beneficial owner that makes 297
then you have 2 consultants who recieved s shares in 2002
that is 296 shareholders of record but 698 people in the record.
Any thoughts?
~Phx
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Any thoughts?
~Phx

Yes, you are a moron.

Come on, does it matter subtracting could be's now. All that matters is there was for sure 698 as of the form 15 filing. Second reason none of this matters is it was not used in the hearing. Even if appealed you can only use presented evidence at the hearing. He can try and make chit into gold, it still makes no difference now.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Again, I'll use legals own words to condemn his and his fellow faithful's logic:

"there you go assuming again. You don't know what the company is doing. You are only seeing what you want to see, or what supports your contentions."

I will take every opportunity to remind that you said this, legal, (noah), until you get sick of it. I almost said, or go away, but you'll never do that, and besides who would we have to laugh at. Keep your selective, out of context, faithful, moronic, logic coming, pal.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Ric:
quote:
Any thoughts?
~Phx

Yes, you are a moron.

Dang, that was pretty funny. Someone here who's a member there should repost it for them. That'll get them riled up.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ric, come on now...including that jackazz in the moron group is an insult to proud morons everywhere. the SEC, according to this braindead fool has no idea what the rules are, the CMKX lawyers have no idea what the rules are, CMKX t/a has no idea what the rules are. only this guy that couldn't pass the floor mopping test at mc donalds knows the rules, to the point he has sent his opinion & a copy of the rule he believes kills the case to frizzy because he doesn't know the rules either. the cmkx savior. the cult needs to worship him right along side UC.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
they have upside...lol most at pb32 think he is a fool & 75% of the 4 pages i skimmed thru on the Thank UC thread are not thanking UC. the cult is shrinking. less the 1500 in phase II of the OG, down from over 5500, 4300 that paid.
 
Posted by Otttoman on :
 
I signed up for Phase I of OG (I know, money well spent. Drank too much koolaide I guess, LOL), but don't plan on joining Phase II. I don't see how any positive outcome will benefit only the OG and not all of the share holders so what's the point. Looks like CMKX being revoked is inevitable, and then it's anyone's guess what will happen. I can't buy into believing that it's a good thing to be revoked as many others think. But then again I am a pinhead, loser and nitwit (at least I haven't been called a moron yet, so I have that to look forward to, LOL).
Good Nite!
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
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Jillikens, you have to ask yourself why are we here? We are the ones that got us here by filing form 15. We have brilliant high prices experienced lawyers that didn't make a mistake of this magnitude if they were prepared for the consequences. And for those that say it was out of a sense of duty, not a chance. If you look at the evidence and the way it was given in the hearing you have to ask what the hell? The judge asking what naked shorting was, the way the JEFF letter was introduced and by who, the way we left out our share structure and valuation which could have absolutely killed them. We let them off the naked share issue by not giving our share structure, and you don't do that unless something has been agreed upon in my opinion. So we got ourselves to the hearing and then held back our real damaging evidence, makes you go hmm. I think we have had them for a long time and made them work with us, this isn't happening out of the kindness of their hearts. If I am wrong and they are not dealing I can't see why we at least we didn't give our share structure proving the short beyond a reasonable doubt, it just doesn't make sense.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I think Legal loves bringing us comic relief. That is so funny.

"We have brilliant high prices experienced lawyers that didn't make a mistake of this magnitude if they were prepared for the consequences. "

The SEC told them of the error and they had to correct it. I just don't know what to say to that post. It is so out there.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
are those the same high priced lawyers that don't know that cmkx doesn't need to file because the shares were S- Restricted? i'm also sure the judge would have throw everything out of court had share structure & valuation been introduced. we all know that companies that are ns'ed & have wildly hi value do not need to file.
 
Posted by will on :
 
legal, (noah), and gusjarvis, there you go assuming again. You don't know what the company is doing. You are only seeing what you want to see, or what supports your contentions.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Otttoman, I'll defend you if anyone calls you a moron. Sounds as if you are sobering up. At least you are beginning to recognize there is a reality. I called you a pinhead, and I retract that. I cannot fully apologize though because at the time you were talking nonsense. You're almost there, welcome back to semi-reality, keep bringing your body and your mind will follow. If you slip back into the faithful's state of mind, just ask yourself one question, WTF, am I some kind of pinhead or moron to believe this heaping mass of steaming dog crap ?

quote:
Originally posted by Otttoman:
I signed up for Phase I of OG (I know, money well spent. Drank too much koolaide I guess, LOL), but don't plan on joining Phase II. I don't see how any positive outcome will benefit only the OG and not all of the share holders so what's the point. Looks like CMKX being revoked is inevitable, and then it's anyone's guess what will happen. I can't buy into believing that it's a good thing to be revoked as many others think. But then again I am a pinhead, loser and nitwit (at least I haven't been called a moron yet, so I have that to look forward to, LOL).
Good Nite!


 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
All the cult has EVER done is assume.
Notice 99% of their posts include the famous
"IMO". Nobody has any facts, just IMO.
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
All the cult has EVER done is assume.
Notice 99% of their posts include the famous
"IMO". Nobody has any facts, just IMO.

Ed, all pinks are purely speculation. In fact, it is illegal to make statements unless a company pr stated something without addint IMO or the like.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
"If someone recieves restricted shares of a company would they be considered a shareholder of record before that restriction was lifted and the shares were registered?


Im thinking no. They would be on the register but not registered owners until the restriction is lifted although they would be on the books."
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This guy is really off base! If the shares are issued, and restricted shares definitely ARE issued shares, they become part of the issued and outstanding automatically. Therefore, the owners of those restricted shares must be counted as holders of record.

You guys are right, phxgold doesn't know zip!
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
By: phxgold
12 Jul 2005, 09:30 AM EDT
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courtesy of vngntn on paltalk, disney just did this.
think about this the first step is already done could this be a way to make us all happy?

Reverse Morris Trust Revival
by Michael Pohlen, 612.303.6356

Morris Trust transactions1 typically used to work as follows: First, assume that the target company ("Parent") is engaged in two different businesses - one is a "wanted" business and the other is "unwanted" from an acquirer's ("Acquirer") perspective. Next, Parent would "spin" the unwanted business into a Newco and distribute Newco's stock to Parent's shareholders. Subsequently, Acquirer would acquire Parent (containing only the wanted business). As a result, Parent's transfer of the unwanted business into Newco and Parent's distribution of Newco's stock to its shareholders was tax-free because the transaction qualified as a 'D' reorganization.

Reverse Morris Trust Illustration: In a "reverse" Morris Trust transaction, Parent "spins" the wanted business (instead of the unwanted business as was the case with the Morris Trust transaction discussed above) into Newco. As part of a prearranged plan, Parent distributes Newco's stock to its shareholders and Acquirer subsequently acquires the Newco stock in exchange for stock.

Historically, the transaction would not qualify as a 'D' reorganization under IRS rules if Parent's/Newco's shareholders did not maintain at least 80% of the total combined stock (voting and non-voting). As a result, Parent would be taxed on the appreciation in excess of its basis in the wanted business and Parent's/Newco's shareholders were taxed at dividend rates on the value of the wanted business.

A recent revenue ruling, however, has led to the substantial relaxation in the definition of a 'D' reorganization, making the reverse Morris Trust transaction tax-free if Parent's/Newco's shareholders receive in excess of 50% (vote and value), but less than 80%, of the stock of Acquirer. Accordingly, the asset "spin" from Parent to Newco is tax-free and the Newco stock is received by Parent's shareholders on a tax-free basis.

The new revenue ruling has led to a revival in reverse Morris Trust transactions and is expected to spur numerous additional reverse Morris Trust transactions in the future. Examples of the creative use of these structures include Heinz/Del Monte and Proctor & Gamble/JM Smucker.
http://www.piperjaffray.com/archives/ma_monitor111102.htm
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Doesnt this guy ever run out of gas??
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
http://www.sec.gov/news/digest/dig071205.txt

IN THE MATTER OF CMKM DIAMONDS, INC.

An administrative law judge has issued an Initial Decision in the matter
of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. The Initial Decision finds that Respondent CMKM
Diamonds, Inc. (CMKM Diamonds), failed to file required annual reports
since May 9, 2002, and required quarterly reports since Nov. 18, 2002,
while its securities were registered with the Securities and Exchange
Commission. As such, the Initial Decision concludes that CMKM Diamonds
violated Section 13(a) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and Rules
13a-1 and 13a-13 thereunder. The Initial Decision revokes the
registration of each class of securities of CMKM Diamonds. (Initial
Decision No. 291; File No. 3-11858)


Don't know if it's real but it appears to be.
 
Posted by tarq3 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
http://www.sec.gov/news/digest/dig071205.txt

IN THE MATTER OF CMKM DIAMONDS, INC.

An administrative law judge has issued an Initial Decision in the matter
of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. The Initial Decision finds that Respondent CMKM
Diamonds, Inc. (CMKM Diamonds), failed to file required annual reports
since May 9, 2002, and required quarterly reports since Nov. 18, 2002,
while its securities were registered with the Securities and Exchange
Commission. As such, the Initial Decision concludes that CMKM Diamonds
violated Section 13(a) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and Rules
13a-1 and 13a-13 thereunder. The Initial Decision revokes the
registration of each class of securities of CMKM Diamonds. (Initial
Decision No. 291; File No. 3-11858)


Don't know if it's real but it appears to be.

My thing is. If the stock is truely revoked then why is it still trading as of right now, something fishy here. Rovoked stocks don't trade so you tell me what is wrong with this picture
15:48:12 5000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB
15:48:06 999999 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB
15:48:03 100 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB
15:47:51 9000000 0.00 - OTCEQ_NBB (F)
15:47:51 9000000 0.00 - OTCEQ_NBB (F)
15:47:51 2000000 0.00 - OTCEQ_NBB (F)
15:47:42 3435000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB
15:47:12 1296000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB
15:46:12 2000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB
15:45:06 1000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB
15:45:06 9000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB
15:45:00 1000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Sure they do, they trade until the decision is made final which I believe is 21 days from now if no appeal is filed.
 
Posted by tarq3 on :
 
ahhhh ha. An initial Decision. that is why it is still trading. But wait why do thye have an initial anything. Any or other time revocation comes up it is you get revoked or halted then your done. No trade tiLL the beLL or anything. Something stiLL not right
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
1 billion traded today...ridiculous....
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
That's how these proceedings work. The Judge issues what's called an initial decision. It's referred to as an initial decision because either side has the right to appeal the decision. If there is no appeal, the Commission makes the ruling final 21 days from the date it was issued.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Larry the Cable Guy sez
"We gotter done!!!" LOL
Can we move on to something else now?

Cant wait to see the cult's spin on THIS one.....
 
Posted by will on :
 
Don't bother explaining it UpMan. They won't believe anything you say, and they will always find a way around reality.
That news means nothing to these idiots, wait until you see the response. We know the first one, someone hacked into the SEC site and it's a fraud. Then there will be 10 more bullchit reasons why the decicsion means nothing.
Then finally it will be, ok, great, we're revoked, we have the SEC right where we want them. LOL
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
WOW!! What a surprise [Big Grin]

NEVER woulda thunk it!
 
Posted by will on :
 
WOW! that was quick. I posted that prediction after your post ed, I was writing when he said it. LOL

quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Larry the Cable Guy sez
"We gotter done!!!" LOL
Can we move on to something else now?

Cant wait to see the cult's spin on THIS one.....


 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Just in case there is anyone who doesnt believe it's real, Frizz has posted that he received the decision by fax several hours ago.

It's real, we have 21 days to file objections, then it becomes final.

In other words, if you dont sell it now, you will NEVER sell it.

Decisions decisions, always decisions....
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
I have only one question:

LEGAL, CAN YOU HEAR IT NOW????????
 
Posted by will on :
 
LOL ed, you can't taunt him with this. He is just going to tell you that this is exactly what they wanted and what the plan called for.
They will be celebrating this. If anything he will tell you:
shhhhh, can you hear it.
LOL
These guys are out of their minds and completely out of control. They just had their nuts removed with a weed whacker and they will actually try to convince you it felt good, and you should try it.
I truly enjoy you ed, but even revocation won't vindicate the reality of this news with these fools.

quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
I have only one question:

LEGAL, CAN YOU HEAR IT NOW????????


 
Posted by tarq3 on :
 
post hearing settlement link:
http://www.cmkxownersgroup.com/Post%20hearing%20settlement%20proposal.pdf


And decision link:
http://www.cmkxownersgroup.com/s%20Final%20Decision.pdf
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
I think it's about time we demand to know exactly what this "PLAM" is. If I dont see a PR of some sort before the end of the week, I'm gonna start saving my pennies for the class-action suit that is sure to follow in about 22 days.
 
Posted by OneGreater on :
 
=DJ SEC Gets OK To Deregister CMKM Diamonds Shares

07/12/2005
Dow Jones News Services
(Copyright © 2005 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.)



By Carol S. Remond
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--An administrative judge has ruled that the Securities and Exchange Commission can deregister the shares of CMKM Diamonds Inc. (CMKX) because the company failed to file annual and quarterly financial reports with the SEC since 2002.

The SEC said in an order on March 16 that it was taking action against CMKM Diamonds to protect investors. Earlier, the SEC had temporarily suspended trading in the stock of CMKM Diamonds because of questions about the "adequacy of publicly available information concerning, among other things, CMKM Diamonds' assets and liabilities, mining and other business activities, share structure and stock issuances, and corporate management."

CMKM Diamonds has 21 days to appeal the administrative judge's initial decision to allow the SEC to deregister its stock.

This tiny diamond mining company has been trading on the unregulated Pink Sheets market and has not made any regulatory disclosure with the SEC since 2002. Billions of shares of CMKM Diamonds routinely change hands daily and its elusive number of outstanding shares had been the topic of much speculation until earlier this year when the company said it had some 703.5 billion shares issued and outstanding.

CMKM Diamonds shares closed unchanged Tuesday at $0.0001 on a volume of more than 1.74 billion shares.

CMKM Diamonds has said that it's in the process of reinstating its reporting status. The company has been the subject of several Dow Jones Newswires "In The Money" columns which highlighted its huge daily trading volume and the lack of information surrounding the company and its mineral claims.


-By Carol S. Remond; Dow Jones Newswires; 201 938 2074; carol.remond@dowjones.com


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Posted by OneGreater on :
 
This sick puppy is on its way out..
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
will,

I really enjoy your eloquence! LLH (laughed like hell) "These guys are out of their minds and completely out of control. They just had their nuts removed with a weed whacker and they will actually try to convince you it felt good, and you should try it."

I am really looking forward to what the faithful-CT, cult, OG and other avid promoters will be saying now. Just remember, will, a few of those bumbleheads have no "nuts".
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Does anyone here really believe that this is the end of this story? If you do, I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Legal, that the same bridge you bought when you bought CMKX stock???
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
I was not aware they were giving bridges as dividends.....
 
Posted by tarq3 on :
 
this seTTlement is interesting. sEEms to be fair and makes sence
http://www.cmkxownersgroup.com/Post%20hearing%20settlement%20proposal.pdf

But who knows whats what, we shall
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I reaaly don't think they will go alone with it though. Because if you read the Judges ruling it looked as though she thought they lied. She makes detailed reference to the false address, and when talking about the form 15 she said it was a false filing. She went on and on about the auditors and accounts not getting records and UC taking the 5th. Also the massive increases in A/S and o/s were clearly stated. I believe ths will be it. The arguement will be that they can reapply for registration if they ever do get there act together. But 21 more days of theories and rumors. This POS will never end.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Legaleagle:
quote:
Does anyone here really believe that this is the end of this story? If you do, I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
Of course it's over, they've been revoked and it isn't going to be turned over nor will the SEC accept a settlement. It's done.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
For the first time, I went to the CT cult forum and read a few posts. Found them most amusing and one sad post:

WWJDthrume CT post on 6/29/05
My thoughts are incredibly upbeat considering where we are at. I even purchased a tad more yesterday via Etrade for .00009.

NOTE fr Wallace: Bright, really bright! If anyone is buying, it is people on this forum.

I believe that Urban wants to take the shareholders with him to prosperity in whatever vehicle the claims that CMKX/CMKI/bought from him originally. I think that some of the delay has had to do with circumstances beyond Urbans control once he discovered a rotten apple in the whole bunch. He made some bad decisions since the rotten apples were there and he missed pciking them out-BUT it may have been his only financing option. A real problem for microcaps-those who throw you the financial lifeline are sharks waiting for you to be safely on shore before they start their meal.

IF we are revoked: I expect to see some stress relief shortly afterwards via cash dividend from CIM or a PR outlining the plan that will move us to another company or stock exchange.

IF we are not revoked I expect to see a timeline for filing.

The claims we have are enormous and enormously valuable. The stock is obviously naked shorted and much work has been done to trap the shorts and protect the longs. We haven't seen all the work but have seen evidence of it like our dividends, news of RG and IBM.

I will add to these thoughts as we see how this develops over the next few days. I am expecting something to happen before July 15 now; possibly before the week is out.

NOTE fr Wallace: Close (July 12th) but no cigar.

IMOO-Debi

noahltls' follow-up post to the above on 7/2/05:

Well, always late. But at the present time, my feelings are that we will be revoked, and that the company wanted it that way. I think CMKX has already prepared a roll up that will resolve the problem when the time is right. I have explained my reasoning on the revocation in a separate post here.

http://forums.christiantraders.com/viewthread.php?tid=3443

NOTE fr Wallace: Reasoning is one thing. Postulating, spinning and distorting (and I didn't even bother to go there) are others for which you are well known.

I remain confident that we are still moving in directions that Roger Glenn launched us into, for the best results for the company. Everythng that we are seeing is not necessarily all that is going on.

NOTE fr Wallace: Glenn launched you folks all right! Further into oblivion!!!

"If you're in, you win. If you doubt, get out." UC

"There is an appointed time for everything, and a time for every affair under the heavens" Ecc 3,1

NOTE fr Wallace: Yes, however the appointed time for revocation is much too late and people got hurt. I like the bit about every "affair". Man! Those guys must have had some life on earth "under the heavens"! Suggests one can do anything and get away with it.

WWJDthrume
Super Administrator

This is the initial decision. Not unexpected by me. Now we should hear what the plan is going to be.

Wonder if it is still trading.

IMO-Debi

The news came out the last 1/2 hour. It is possible that some sold on this news.

I am glad we got this news. I hope CMKX calls for a halt. This crazy trading of stocks that the MM's don't own is infuriating. I prefer this ruling to another year or two of .0001 or less.

If we did our homework properly we should see something good in the very, VERY, Near future.

IMOO-Debi

Etrade was saying last month that our dividends and USCA were in reorg for July 15. Maybe Friday we will have some good news. We'll see.

IMO-Debi

noahlt's post on CT (aka legaleagle on Allstocks and another Super Administrator):
An initial decision is not final. The company attorney has 21 days to file a Motion to Reconsider. This will call to the judges attention any case law or prior decisions that may disqualify the judges ruling. No new evidence would be allowed, only the above. The judge will then be able to reconsider her decisions based on the law and then issue a final ruling.

That final ruling would then be appealable to a higher appeals court.

VNGNTN1's post (aka VAN- formerly on Allstocks and another "Super Administrator):
REVOKED

http://www.sec.gov/news/digest/dig071205.txt
Watch your accounts carefully . Make sure Brokers don't play games-Document everything
VAN
PS: DO NOT PANIC; DO NOT HAVE FEAR: Prayer would be good.
The short is locked, Company can now move forward. Remember why you first got in.

And, finally a post by irish26 which faces the reality of the situation:
Figures.......you can never beat cheaters! There goes my investment. I guess the rumor of a buy off this week was just that......a rumor.
NOTE fr Wallace: LOL IMO (except for the last post --which is very sad)
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
In the Judges decision on sanctions;

"CMKX Diamond's violations of the periodic reporting provisions were recurrent, egregious, and evidence of high degree of scienter."

"CMKX Diamond's violations involved important provisions of the Exchange Act. Throughout the period during which it filed no reports, CMKX Diamonds has operated in secret, revealing scant information to the investing public regarding its purported multi-million dollar transactions and stock issuances while the trading volume of its stock is consistently more then one billion shares per day. Finally, CMKX Diamond's continues to report a false business address in filings to the commission."

"CMKX Diamond's does not appreciate the wrongfulness of its conduct and the requirement it provide the investing public with accurate information."

"Mahue's appointment as director does little to assure me that the company will be able to effect prompt compliance, as he is without sufficient control of the company or the situation."

"Casavant seems to be the only one running the company and he refused to testify."

21 more days till revoked.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i can't wait to see the appeal...lol judge your wrong we really are very sorry, scouts honor. we are making up the books right now. why UC's wife is even filling in the general ledger. just give us time, we will get it done UC promised we would. why just yesterday he started looking for some of the missing paperwork...... what a joke this is...the judge left no question as to laws violated & as to her opinion on why they were violated & backed her opinion up with everything bashers have been pointing out since the transcripts were posted. stocklien will appeal because he gets paid to do so & for no other reason.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
love the deal cmkx wants now...give us 120 more days, we will halt trading & then we will file yr end stuff only. how about filing the contracts for the deals, prove where the cash went, the shares went. gave 29 companies 3 billion shares...wanna bet they are all the UC companies, desomoreau companies, devorak companies still registered someplace out there? wanna bet not 1 of those companies holds a single share today? i'd love to see the list of those companies but by filing yr end only no list would be forthcoming. that deal will not fly & cmkx will be revoked. UC will blame everyone except himself.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ZEN says good bye...lol


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Well, here's the realist's interpretation. Unless CMKX wants to finally show us some miracle hand, the advantage clearly shifts to the shorts/sec/hedge funds. They got what they wanted. They wouldn't have asked for this if they didn't feel it was in their very best interests imo. So, imo this becomes a legal waiting game on appeal, and frankly, appeals just don't get won often. Especially on our shaky legal ground. All the wonderfully creative legal arguments you've heard thrown about here on the boards are IRRELEVANT if they weren't raised during the initial proceedings. And most weren't. Considering the leeway this judge had in her ruling and the facts before her, I would say our appeal chances are quite slim. That basically then leaves us as a private company and Stoecklein and Urban can figure what the next step is. Frankly, I'm not holding my breath. There certainly ARE options such as reverse merging into CIM or heading to the TSX, but I ain't holding my breath for those either. Since I have owned cmkx, the company has never given me a single piece of normal, celebratory news (okay, maybe Maheu's involvement but that hasn't yet paid off). So, I'm going with the odds that say they will continue to disappoint me. That having been said, absolutely NOTHING surprises me any more with cmkx. So I haven't given up hope. I have, however, given up monitoring boards or any further speculation. At this stage, if you stop listening to Obi Wan Adobe's koolaid comments (by the way, he did state empatically that we will not be revoked and is now backpedaling by saying it's not final LOL), anyway, if you ignore that fool, this appears to be caught in a long legal battle, and then I guess we'll just wait to see how Urban, Maheu and Stoecklein continue. There's a lot that COULD happen. I'm not holding my breath. Someday, maybe, who knows. In the mean time, my life will go on with the assumption that my investment will be a tax write-off at some point in the future. If that changes, I'll consider it a huge bonus.

Good luck to everyone. I simply have no reason to spend any more time on cmkx now that we're revoked, unless a development of major implications happens. I wish everyone well and do appreciate this board. Should good things ultimately turn up, I will be back.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
By: eddiethemagnificent
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OH MY...

a well known person on Willy's board was talking when his wife grabbed the mic and screamed at him for losing $45,000.00 boy was it a very disturbing scene... of course they were bounced.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Have any of those avid cult members decided to say they were wrong yet? Even Zen couched his words instead of coming right out and saying that.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Good gravy, Batman....One of them actually found a brain !!!!!!!!
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well it has been an eventfull day. cmkx revoked & i get 8 FBI officers, 2 ATF guys, the detroit bomb squad, the ATF bomb squad, 6 special detectives from the detroit police terrorist squad & 2 bomb dogs going thru my car. i get grilled by 4 of these differant groups about having guns or ammo in my car & drug pariphanalia in my car. the drug stuff was a scrubbing pad & a bunch of lighters, the pad was in a work bag with hard hat, goggles & resperator its used on aluminum diffusers, only way to get clean. the lighters i get every time i buy a carton of smokes, 1 a week. all because the first dog sat at my passanger back seat door. looking at the floor there. the fact that i have been putting dusty, dirty boots there, that have had dust from welding exhaust, gun range exhaust, factory HVAC systems for the 5 yrs i've owned this car could not possibly be the reason 1 of the dogs smelled something funny. it was at the IRS building in downtown detroit, about 1 mile from the All star game tonight. the FBI dog didn't smell anything but the dog the IRS keeps at the building did. we had a military helicopter overhead & 2 news copters. i could not get them to take the floor mat out & see if the 1 dog sat on the mat away from the car, instead the ripped my trunk apart, took the consol out & left it in pieces & then said we could not go in to do the little job we were called in to do. i was added on about 5 minutes before the crew left to go to the job. the guys could see i'm a dago not a camel jockey. all because of security for the all star game & the fact ppl hate the IRS...lol what a day.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Best one yet, there's an idiot on PB32 betting he can buy CMKX tomorrow at .00001

Sheesh
 
Posted by trgamma2 on :
 
I will be watching for you on the news tonight Bill!
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Bill, when was the last time you had a truly good day?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
its been a while upside...lol. i did sort of get some kind of agreement together with 2 companies yesterday to keep doing what i have been doing for 8 yrs but i'm still not sure they will honor that temporary agreement...does that count???
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
FRIZZELL LAW FIRM
305 S. Broadway, Suite 302
Tyler, Texas 75702
(903)595-1921
E-Mail jmartin@cmkxownersgroup.com


Dear Group Members, July 12, 2005


We are posting on the CMKX owners’ group website http://www.cmkxownersgroup.com/ the initial decision of Judge Murray. I received my copy by fax at 1:37 p.m. (Central time). Judge Murray has entered an initial decision revoking the registration of all CMKX securities.

I have been working with CMKX attorney Don Stoecklein for several days now on a proposal to settle this matter. This morning Mr. Stoecklein sent a settlement proposal to the SEC attorneys and to Judge Murray’s office. It is my understanding this settlement offer was received by the SEC and Judge Murray before this decision was handed down. I had signed the settlement proposal and we were hopeful this matter could be resolved without the Judge’s ruling. The ruling pretty well speaks for itself.

The company had difficulty in reengaging a new auditor. The new auditor has been officially hired but the company believed it had to do a formal 8K before announcing the new auditor.

I have been in discussion with Mr. Stoecklein and I will give you a more definitive response to this decision later on today. The company plans to immediately appeal this decision. As you can tell from the judge’s decision, this is not a final order until the Commission reviews the decision.


Onward,


Bill
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Someone please go get the straight Jacket fast.

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you will see that many good things happened right before the judge jumped 9 days ahead of schedule to render her decision.

1. An agreement was sent to the SEC and the judge to work out a deal so the revocation was not necessary. It was a good deal that would show that the SEC is protecting the shareholders. She got it about an hour before her decision.

2. CMKX hired an auditor just hours ago.

Bill and Don have been working on this for some time and got it finalized and off to the judge this morning and now she decides to rule before the SEC let things get away from them. HMMMMMMMMMM

I have a feeling they are in for one heck of a suprise when Urban and company make the next move!

Stay tuned....................
 
Posted by trgamma2 on :
 
the next move where? out of the country to undisclosed location? I hear Urban is currently attending to the AMERICAN SHAFT BUSINESS.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
He had better get moving before that lady from the October party comes looking [Big Grin]

Nothing worst than a mob of angry shareholders, I would think that he is already planning a get away to SA, after all he can't go back to Canada as they want him there.

I hope that legal likes SA [Smile]
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by bill1352:
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its been a while upside...lol. i did sort of get some kind of agreement together with 2 companies yesterday to keep doing what i have been doing for 8 yrs but i'm still not sure they will honor that temporary agreement...does that count???
No it doesn't. That's just a day where you get hit a little lighter than others. I'm talking about a day when you can just kick back and think "all is right".
 
Posted by Marty on :
 
"His, baloney has a first name, it's U-r-b-a-n.....his baloney has a second name, it's B-u-r-n-t....Urban Burnt, has a way, of takin' your money a-away...(to a distant bank)" LOL.....I can't believe this is still going....have fun [Wink]
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
bill,

Bet they apologized and offered to repair any damage done to your vehicle as well as offered a huge cash settlement for your inconvenience, huh?

No??? You mean they were not really faithful CMKX cult members?

Besides, all you dagos, muslims and terrorists look alike. LOL j/k Remember, my wife is a WOP! She can be a terror.
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
Wallace, looks like a bunch a pinks are ready fer de Spitz/SEC treatment...

Should be enough entertainment for months!

I am just waiting fer one of me favorites to hit the preverbial fan.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Still going on? Shucks man, it's just starting. After all it isn't every day a Judge hands down an intitial order to revoke your stock. Don't you know revocation is a reason to celebrate.
Hey noah, show me one of your post or one of your moronic pumper friend's post that is older than 9 months and predicted that revocation was the path of the "Master Plan". Does anyone remember any of these windbag gurus setting course for revocation as being part of the "Master Plan", before the SEC made it absolutley clear that is what they wanted? Show me, show me one person who had revocation charted as part of the Master Plan, just one month before the SEC filed charges and revocation was inevitable. Talk about seeing what you want to see and using damning news to support your contentions, that's all you foolish faithful do.
I know, you don't have time to answer my drivel. Undoubtedly you have more important things to think about. Probably helping Frizzell and Stoecklein plan their next great strategy. LOL
As far as anyone "picking up" a little more of this crap, well only one things come to mind, they are godamn fools.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff101:
Wallace, looks like a bunch a pinks are ready fer de Spitz/SEC treatment...

Should be enough entertainment for months!

I am just waiting fer one of me favorites to hit the preverbial fan.

Dusty,

Would really like to see Spitzer get involved with CMKX. Chew 'em up and spit 'em out so fast it makes their heads swim! Conclusions? FRAUD! MISAPPROPRIATION OF CORPORATE ASSETS! FAILURE TO PERFORM FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITIES! INCOMPETENCE! EMBEZZLEMENT! THEFT OF ASSETS!

MANDATORY PRISON SENTENCE (with a nasty prison guard)!
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
will,

Based upon her post on CT, the Queen of Pumpers is likely to pick up more CMKX or some other loser associated with UC. She sure has the hots for that stock.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Wallace, I think they call them masochist.

4. enjoyment of hardship: the tendency to invite and enjoy misery of any kind, especially in order to be pitied by others or admired for forbearance

The other three referenced sexual pleasure associated with abuse, so I left them out. That couldn't be that woman of high moral standing. My goodness, I hope she doesn't get gratification from humilition, abuse, and domination. Incase she does she sure got her money's worth out of this sadistic ride.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
will,

Based upon her post on CT, the Queen of Pumpers is likely to pick up more CMKX or some other loser associated with UC. She sure has the hots for that stock.


 
Posted by will on :
 
Of course this group of masochist doesn't feel abused or humiliated. A rare breed that can endure this level of pain and humiliation and ask for more. I have witnessed a lot of weird things in my life, but never anything like these people who refuse to admit an error in judgement.

"Yes UC, I'll have another please" !!!
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
How does that song go? "Sock it to me one more time"?

Here's something for legal:

Shhhhhh! Can you hear it? Sock-it-to-me-sock-it-to-me-sock-it-to-me-sock-it-to-me. Better get out of the way of the train, legal!
 
Posted by Dustoff101 on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wallace#1:
[QB] How does that song go? "Sock it to me one more time"?

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Howz about " Only the lonely "
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
John Edwards (CMKX Rat Pack) owned shares NS MM


Hmmm. John M. Edwards, one of the original CMKX "Rat Pack" owns a big piece of a MM that was shorting CMKX.


http://knobias.10kwizard.com/filing.php?repo=tenk&ipage=3569976&doc=1&total=&back=2&g=&attach=on

Edwards John M filed on 07/12/2005 Company Filings


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7500 W. LAKE MEAD, #9627


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04/28/2005 3. Issuer Name and Ticker or Trading Symbol
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1. Title of Derivative Security (Instr. 4) 2. Date Exercisable and Expiration Date (Month/Day/Year) 3. Title and Amount of Securities Underlying Derivative Security (Instr. 4) 4. Conversion or Excercise Price of Derivative Security 5. Ownership Form: Direct (D) or Indirect (I) (Instr. 5) 6. Nature of Indirect Beneficial Ownership (Instr. 5)
Date Exercisable Expiration Date Title Amount or Number of Shares
Series A Convertible Preferred Stock (1) (1) Common Stock 3,548,000 $ (1) I Note (2)
Series A Convertible Preferred Stock (1) (1) Common Stock 3,210,000 $ (1) I Note (3)
Explanation of Responses:
1. The Series A Convertible Preferred Stock is convertible into common stock of the issuer at the option of the holder. Each share of Series A Convertible Preferred Stock can be converted into 1,000 shares of CFGI common stock. The Series A Convertible Preferred Stock has no expiration date.
2. Shares held by Rissington Investments, a business trust dated November 16, 2004, of which Mr. Edwards is the sole beneficiary.
3. Shares held by Mining Feasibility Capital Corp., a Nevada corporation, of which Mr. Edwards is the sole stockholder.
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Posted by will on :
 
So, what does that have to do with Judge's ruling?

Oh wait, let me tell you what it has to do with it.

NOTHING !!!!!
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Frizzell Update on Revocation Ruling etc 7-12


Dear Group Members, July 12, 2005


By now most shareholders probably know Judge Murray has rendered an initial decision revoking the registration of CMKX securities. I felt like I had been kicked in the gut when I saw the decision coming off of my fax line today. Frankly, when I saw the Administrative Law Judge’s letterhead on the first page, I thought it was remarkable that the Court would comment so quickly on the filing of our settlement offer. When I realized what the document contained, I was disappointed and a bit surprised. Not in the decision and not in the reasoning of the decision, but in the timing of the decision.


Settlement Proposal


Don Stoecklein and I had been struggling with the wording of our settlement proposal for a couple of weeks. It was our belief that no settlement offer would ever be considered by the SEC attorneys nor the Commission unless a qualified auditor was formally engaged. The auditor did extensive due diligence before accepting this job. The negotiations by Don Stoecklein were carried out with the auditor’s attorney as well. Once an agreement was reached with the auditor, Don Stoecklein felt the SEC rules required an 8K filing of the auditor’s engagement but we had not received a signoff from the prior auditor. The company began securing the signoff letter but the settlement proposal was sent without having it in hand. I am giving you only a bit of the background leading up to our settlement proposal. I am not making excuses nor suggesting that many of these delays could not have been avoided.

Brad Beckstead was engaged as our new auditor yesterday. I am not at liberty to discuss the actual amount paid to Mr. Beckstead but it was a six figure amount. It was not as high as the $360,000 figure rumored on the boards this morning, but a very substantial figure was paid to Mr. Beckstead according to the company. It is my understanding that the amount paid was a retainer and additional fees may be incurred. I expect the company to file an 8K by the end of the week announcing the engagement of this auditor. We are still under SEC rules since this decision is not a final decision. I am told the rules allow the company 4 days to announce this engagement.

What becomes of the settlement offer we have proposed? We will continue to seek settlement of this proceeding. Our offer of settlement remains. The appeals process can be a long one. I have been assured the auditor can complete the audit within 120 days. The completed audits will not take as long as the appeals process in any event. Our case has many of the same facts found in the E-Smart decision mentioned by Judge Murray at the beginning of the administrative proceeding. Our facts in my opinion are more compelling than the factual scenario of E-Smart. (assuming we get the financials filed in the next few months). I will try to get the three part decision of E-Smart posted for those of you who might want to read a similar case decided by the Commission. I am hopeful that there will be some future dialogue about settlement once we can convince the SEC that work on these financials is proceeding.


Our Trading Status Now?


As part of our settlement offer, we suggested a trading halt in the interim period while we await the filing of our past due financials. This offer was designed to satisfy the SEC’s concerns about future investors. It appears now that trading will continue in spite of our offer. Rule 360 of the SEC Rules of Practice basically says the status of the parties (trading allowed) remains the same until an aggrieved party (CMKX) prosecutes its appeal.


Where Do We Go From Here?


Folks, we took a risk (admittedly seems a bit larger than we thought at the time) when we bought this stock. We have watched this stock plummet to the bottom and now we have an initial order of revocation to overcome. The facts still remain-if the company has the goods and if the company gets these financials filed, there remains some significant gain to be made. John has told me that a few of his friends have sent him farewell notes. People speak of losing all of their investment and writing things off. This is music to the ears of the market makers and brokerage houses that have mountains of electronic markers backed by your hard earned dollars.

Hell folks, the stock is virtually worthless (.00008) as it is. Hang in there and lets fight these crooks. Penny stock investors always walk away. They do not usually have large investments in these stocks. That’s what convinces the short sellers that easy money is to be made when there is a mountain of outstanding stock and the SEC is coming down on management. Lets be different. Watch these people with the big short positions snatch up these shares (real shares) as people give up. In Texas you hear the old saying “When you always do what you always done, you always get what you always got.” Lets be different.

I have watched many live professional boxing matches. I had the pleasure of managing a world champion for several years. I was always amazed at how these guys could stand out there in the ring and pulverize each other (gashes, swelling, cuts, bruises) for 10 or 12 rounds and sit back in the dressing room after the fight and have a good laugh. Well, SEC, you have won the first round. Leslie Hakala and Greg Glynn did a very good job of presenting evidence to the judge which fully justifies her decision. For whatever reason, our company was unable to get the ship righted in time to win round one. But we will come off the stool for the second round.

I know there are those that think I must really be drinking the kool aid around here. I will not pump this stock because I still have some questions that I hope to have answered very soon. The company has invited me to go to Ecuador with the auditor at the same time. I have been invited to Canada for a tour of the assets. I refused to go thinking we could head off revocation if I stayed here and worked with the company attorney on this settlement proposal. Now we have another course. I will be scheduling my trip as soon as practical.


Lets Keep Fighting The Good Fight


Please understand we are not parties to this proceeding. I have no right to appeal anything. Only the company has the right to appeal this decision. My plans are as follows. I am going to suggest to Mr. Stoecklein and Urban that we would like to have an independent auditor to have a bi weekly conference with Mr. Beckstead to monitor his progress in these audits. I will also inquire if I can be given a status report from Mr. Stoecklein on the filing of the Petition for Review on an every other day basis if necessary. I will be more than willing to provide appellate assistance or provide any help to the company so that the appeals process will go according the plan as I understand it from the company at this time. I will report to you the response of the company to my requests. I will likewise report to you in whatever detail I can, my findings in Ecuador and Saskatchewan. Lets play this thing out folks. And to you short sellers out there, this game is not over with by a long shot.


Onward,


Bill
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
INITIAL DECISION RELEASE NO. 291
ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEEDING
FILE NO. 3-11858

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Before the
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C.

In the Matter of

CMKM DIAMONDS, INC.
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INITIAL DECISION

July 12, 2005

APPEARANCES:


Leslie A. Hakala, Gregory C. Glynn, and John B. Bulgozdy for the Division of Enforcement, Securities and Exchange Commission.

Donald J. Stoecklein for CMKM Diamonds, Inc.

Bill Frizzell for John Martin, et al., (Owners Group).1

BEFORE:


Brenda P. Murray, Chief Administrative Law Judge.
PROCEDURAL HISTORY

The Securities and Exchange Commission (Commission) issued its Order Instituting Proceedings (OIP) on March 16, 2005, pursuant to Section 12(j) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (Exchange Act). The OIP alleges that the common stock of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (CMKM Diamonds), is registered with the Commission pursuant to Section 12(g) of the Exchange Act, and that since registering its stock, CMKM Diamonds has not filed an annual report on Form 10-K or 10-KSB since May 9, 2002, or a quarterly report on Form 10-Q or 10-QSB since November 18, 2002. As a result, the OIP alleges that CMKM Diamonds has failed to comply with Section 13(a) of the Exchange Act and Rules 13a-1 and 13a-13 thereunder.

CMKM Diamonds filed its Answer on April 12, 2005, in which it admitted that the factual allegations in the OIP are true but denied that it failed to comply with Section 13(a) of the Exchange Act and Rules 13a-1 and 13a-13. (Answer 1-2.)

I held a one-day public hearing on May 10, 2005, in Los Angeles, California, during which six witnesses testified for the Division of Enforcement (Division), three witnesses testified for CMKM Diamonds, and more than sixty exhibits were admitted into evidence.2 At the hearing, I read into the record the names of some twenty-five CMKM Diamonds shareholders who sent letters concerning this proceeding. I ruled that those letters would be treated as exhibits offered but not admitted into evidence. (Tr. 25-26.) Appendix A to this Initial Decision is a list of additional letters received after the hearing, which will receive the same treatment. The Division, CMKM Diamonds, and the Owners Group filed their Post-Hearing Briefs on June 6, June 17, and June 20, 2005, respectively. The Division filed its Reply Brief on June 29, 2005.3
ISSUES

If CMKM Diamonds has failed to comply with Section 13(a) of the Exchange Act and Rules 13a-1 and 13a-13, the issue is what remedial sanction, if any, is appropriate pursuant to Section 12(j) of the Exchange Act.
FINDINGS OF FACT

The findings and conclusions herein are based on the entire record. I applied preponderance of the evidence as the standard of proof. See Steadman v. SEC, 450 U.S. 91, 102 (1981). I have considered and rejected all arguments and proposed findings and conclusions that are inconsistent with this Initial Decision.
Background

CMKM Diamonds was incorporated in Delaware in 1998 as Cyber Mark International Corp. (Cyber Mark). (Answer at 1-2.) In April 2002, Cyber Mark changed its corporate domicile to Nevada. (Answer at 2; Div. Ex. 3.) On November 25, 2002, Cyber Mark agreed to acquire certain mineral claims held by five companies owned by the family of Urban Casavant (Casavant) in exchange for $2 million and almost 3 billion shares of Cyber Mark restricted common stock with registration rights. (Answer at 2; Div. Ex. 3 at 5.) Prior to his resignation on November 25, 2002, Cyber Mark's sole director appointed Casavant sole director, president, and chief executive officer. (Answer at 2; Div. Ex. 3 at 7.) On November 26, 2002, Casavant appointed his wife, Carolyn Casavant, as vice president of claims, his son, Wesley Casavant, age twenty-two, to the position of corporate treasurer, and his daughter, Cindy Casavant, to the position of corporate secretary. (Answer at 2-3, Div. Ex. 3 at 7.) On December 3, 2002, the company changed its corporate name to Casavant Mining Kimberlite International. (Answer at 3; Div. Ex. 3 at 7.) In February 2004, it changed its name to CMKM Diamonds. (Answer at 3.)

CMKM Diamonds currently is a Nevada corporation based in Las Vegas, Nevada, which is purportedly engaged in the business of mineral exploration.4 (Answer at 6; Form 8-Ks, filed March-May 2005 (official notice); Div. Ex. 6 at 14.) In the most recent information it has provided to the public through a periodic filing, a Form 10-QSB for the quarter ending September 30, 2002, CMKM Diamonds reported total assets of $344.00, all in cash, and total liabilities of $1,672.00. (Div. Ex. 3 at 2.) Casavant currently is the president, chief executive officer, and co-chair of CMKM Diamonds's two-person board of directors. (Tr. 71-73; Div. Exs. 5, 18, 19, 24, 53; Form 8-Ks, filed March-May 2005 (official notice).) Casavant and his wife have signatory authority on CMKM Diamonds's bank accounts. (Tr. 183.) Casavant refused to testify at the hearing, and asserted his Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination to all questions asked by the Division.5 (Tr. 242-61.)

From January 1, 2003 through April 19, 2005, the price of CMKM Diamonds's stock ranged from a low of $0.00013 per share to a high of $0.0135 per share. (Div. Ex. 17.) Its average price during this period was $0.00071. (Div. Ex. 17.) The trading volume of CMKM Diamonds's stock from January 2003 until August 2003 exceeded 100 million shares per day on four occasions. (Tr. 137-38; Div. Ex. 61.) From August 2003 to April 2005, however, the trading volume of the company's stock was significantly higher, frequently exceeding 1 billion shares per day and sometimes exceeding 2 billion shares per day. (Tr. 138; Div. Exs. 17, 61.)

In a Form 8-K filed on March 14, 2005, CMKM Diamonds reported that on two occasions during 2004, it had amended its articles of incorporation to change the number of authorized shares. The first amendment, on March 1, 2004, changed the number of authorized shares from 200 billion to 500 billion. The second amendment, on August 18, 2004, changed the number of authorized shares from 500 billion to 800 billion. (Form 8-K, filed March 14, 2005 (official notice).) As of December 31, 2004, CMKM Diamonds had 2,033 shareholders of record and more than 778 billion shares outstanding. (Tr. 159-61; Div. Ex. 14 at 504.)

Donald J. Stoecklein (Stoecklein), current counsel for CMKM Diamonds, owns the Securities Law Institute in Las Vegas, Nevada, which assists approximately forty-two public companies in their periodic reporting obligations, including CMKM Diamonds. (Tr. 315-16.) Stoecklein also owns Opus Pointe, which is an accounting and bookkeeping company and a division of the Securities Law Institute. (Tr. 167, 326-27.) Opus Point and the Securities Law Institute are working on CMKM Diamonds matters and an employee of each firm testified at the public hearing. (Tr. 167, 314.)

On March 4, 2005, CMKM Diamonds announced that, effective March 1, 2005, it had relocated its executive offices to 5375 Procyon Street, Suite 101, Las Vegas, Nevada. (Div. Ex. 53.) However, as of April 6, 2005, this address was occupied only by a "hot rod" shop. (Div. Ex. 55.) "Debbie" at the Securities Law Institute, which is owned by CMKM Diamonds's counsel, reported in an e-mail sent on April 6, 2005, that a shareholder had visited the site, discovered this fact, and reported it on the company's Web site.6 "Debbie" advised that "You might want to call Urban [Casavant] or Michael and have them 'move in' and talk to the owner of the hot rod shop and also tell Andy what to tell shareholders when they call." (Div. Ex. 55.) CMKM Diamonds continued to report this false business address in two subsequent Form 8-K filings. (Div. Ex. 12; Form 8-K, filed May 18, 2005 (official notice).)

Robert Maheu (Maheu) has known Stoecklein for a number of years and is part of a team assembled by Stoecklein, which Maheu believes will clear up past mistakes and will result in compliance going forward. (Tr. 285-86, 296.) Maheu set up the Small Defense Plant Administration fifty years ago, and later the Small Business Administration. (Tr. 285, 287.) Casavant appointed Maheu as co-chairman of CMKM Diamonds's board in February 2005. (Tr. 283-84, 286, 293; Div. Exs. 53, 56.) Maheu is paid $40,000 per month. (Tr. 286.)
Failure to File Periodic Reports

CMKM Diamonds registered its securities with the Commission in 1999, pursuant to Section 12(g) of the Exchange Act. (Answer at 1, 6.) Since that time, CMKM Diamonds has failed to file annual reports for its fiscal years ended December 31, 2002, 2003, and 2004. (Answer at 7; Tr. 51; Div. Ex. 1.) It has also failed to file quarterly reports for the periods ended: March 31, June 30, and September 30, 2003; March 31, June 30, and September 30, 2004; and March 31, 2005. (Answer at 7; Tr. 51; Div. Ex. 2.)

On March 31, 2003, the company filed a request for an extension of time to file its annual report for the year ended December 31, 2002, because it had not yet completed its financial statements. (Div. Ex. 4.) CMKM Diamonds never filed an annual report for 2002. (Div. Ex. 1.) On May 16, 2003, the company filed a request for an extension of time to file its quarterly report for the period ended March 31, 2003, claiming it had not yet completed its financial statements. (Div. Ex. 7.) Despite having not filed an annual report for 2002, CMKM Diamonds erroneously represented in this filing that it had filed all required reports for the preceding twelve months. (Div. Ex. 7.) CMKM Diamonds never filed a quarterly report for the quarter ending March 31, 2003. (Div. Ex. 2.)

On July 22, 2003, CMKM Diamonds filed a Form 15, signed by Casavant, pursuant to Exchange Act Rule 12g-4, in which it certified that it had approximately 300 shareholders of record as of that date.7 (Div. Ex. 8.) The trading volume in CMKM Diamonds's shares inexplicably experienced a sharp increase shortly after it filed the Form 15.

On February 16, 2005, CMKM Diamonds revoked its original Form 15 filing because it actually had 698 shareholders of record as of the filing date of the original Form 15.8 (Div. Exs. 9, 13.) The persuasive evidence is that the Division's inquiry to CMKM Diamonds's counsel on December 23, 2004, led CMKM Diamonds to revoke the Form 15 because it contained a materially false representation. (Div. Exs. 20, 21.)
Failure to Achieve Compliance

In early January 2005, CMKM Diamonds retained Bagell, Josephs & Company, LLC, to audit the company's financial statements. (Tr. 68-74, 79; Div. Ex. 24.) Neil Levine (Levine), a certified public accountant with that firm and the engagement partner on the audit, met with Casavant and others to discuss the requirements for the audit. (Tr. 68-73.) Since being retained, Levine and his firm have not performed any audit procedures because CMKM Diamonds has failed to provide them with any books, records, or supporting documents, despite their repeated requests. (Tr. 69-71, 82-86, 95, 103, 109.) For example, Levine requested, but never received, supporting documents, such as invoices, for the company's stock issuances. (Tr. 82-86, 91.) He did receive a memorandum with several pages of spreadsheets attached, identifying to whom stock was issued in 2002 and 2003, as well as the number of shares. (Tr. 84-85; Div. Ex. 26.) These documents were incomplete, however, as the stock price was not included for every issuance and there was no information about stock issuances in 2004. (Tr. 85; Div. Ex. 26.)

In late February 2005, Levine sent a letter inquiring about the status of the information he had requested, including general ledgers and documents supporting the company's stock issuances. (Tr. 90-91; Div. Ex. 27.) Levine never received a response. (Tr. 91.) Subsequently, Levine met with Casavant, Stoecklein, and others in Las Vegas. (Tr. 92.) They discussed Levine's requests for documents, and he was informed that the company's books and records were being assembled. (Tr. 92-94, 103.) Levine did not receive any documents at this meeting, and no one gave him a date by which he would receive such documents. (Tr. 93.) He later contacted the company to gauge their progress in assembling the books and records. (Tr. 93-94.) Its response informed him that things were progressing slowly. (Tr. 94.) One week before the hearing, Stoecklein told Levine that the company would be sending him documents. (Tr. 94.) Levine did not receive anything. (Tr. 95.)

Levine opined that if he received all the necessary information in proper form, he may be able to perform the required audits in three months. (Tr. 95-96.) Levine and his firm terminated the engagement with CMKM Diamonds effective at the end of the hearing, due to the company's failure to provide the requested documentation and information required to perform the audit work. (Tr. 96-98; Div. Ex. 59.)

In early March 2005, several months after the auditor was retained, Opus Pointe was hired to compile CMKM Diamonds's financial information for its financial statements.9 (Tr. 168.) Suzanne Herring (Herring) is an accountant with, and president of, Opus Pointe. (Tr. 167.) Since being retained, CMKM Diamonds has provided Opus Pointe with bank statements, cancelled checks, contracts, and reports from the transfer agent. (Tr. 171-72, 179.) Though Herring has made repeated requests for additional documents over several months, she has not been provided with a "pretty substantial" amount of information that she needs to prepare the financial statements. (Tr. 183.) For instance, Herring has repeatedly requested additional documents from Casavant, Ginger Gutierrez, who was the office administrator at the company, CMKM Diamonds's former attorney, and a former company employee. (Tr. 172-79, 181-83.) None of these persons have furnished any documents to Herring. (Tr. 172-79, 182-83.)

When Opus Pointe began its work in March 2005, CMKM Diamonds's balance sheet, financial statements, and general ledger were nonexistent. (Tr. 171.) Opus Pointe has since posted some transactions to draft general ledgers for the fiscal years ended December 31, 2002, 2003, and 2004. (Tr. 171-72, 185; Div. Ex. 58.) These draft ledgers, which are the only books and records prepared to date, are incomplete and based on incomplete information. (Tr. 185-86, 191, 204; Div. Ex. 58.) For example, Herring has not been provided documents that support CMKM Diamonds's issuance of more than $24 million in stock pursuant to an "unknown agreement." (Tr. 191-92.) She also is unsure whether CMKM Diamonds's purported acquisition of a jade collection, supposedly worth $56 million, has or has not been reversed. (Tr. 187-91.)

The draft ledger for 2003 reflects that deposits were made into CMKM Diamonds's bank account. (Tr. 193-96.) These deposits were not revenues earned by the company; instead, they were loans from Casavant. (Tr. 194-96.) The draft ledger for 2003 reflects no revenues because the company was not engaged in any revenue-producing activities. (Tr. 193-96; Div. Ex. 58.) Similarly, the draft ledger for 2004 reflects no business operations and no revenues or income.10 (Tr. 196-97; Div. Ex. 58.) CMKM Diamonds had an accumulated deficit of more than $36 million as of December 31, 2004. (Tr. 197-203.)

Herring estimated that she would require approximately thirty days to reconstruct CMKM Diamonds's books and records for 2002, 2003, and 2004, once she had all the information that she needed. (Tr. 203-04.) She has been unable to proceed because she lacks the documents that she requested from the company. (Tr. 204.)

The meetings Maheu has attended concerning CMKM Diamonds have been held in Stoecklein's office, possibly because Casavant operates CMKM Diamonds out of his home. (Tr. 175, 291.) Maheu has no background in the mining business, and does not know how many employees CMKM Diamonds has, if any, who they are, how much they are paid, or what kind of work they perform. (Tr. 296-98.) He has never seen CMKM Diamonds's general ledger and does not know what the company's assets and liabilities are. (Tr. 307-08.) Maheu incorrectly assumed that an audit of the company's financial statements had started as of the date of the hearing. (Tr. 306-07.) Maheu was unaware that CMKM Diamonds had not responded to requests for financial information and, at the hearing, he learned that CMKM Diamonds had not provided auditors and bookkeepers with documents they requested from Casavant months earlier. (Tr. 288-91.)

CMKM Diamonds currently has no independent auditor to audit its financial statements. In fact, it has no financial statements to be audited. In addition, no drafts of any of CMKM Diamonds's missing periodic reports have been prepared. (Tr. 336-38.) No witness could specify a date by which CMKM Diamonds would file any of its delinquent reports. (Tr. 275, 296, 354.)
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW

Section 13(a) of the Exchange Act and Rules 13a-1 and 13-13 thereunder require issuers of securities registered pursuant to Section 12 of the Exchange Act to file periodic and other reports with the Commission. Exchange Act Rule 13a-1 requires issuers to submit annual reports, and Exchange Act Rule 13a-13 requires issuers to submit quarterly reports. No showing of scienter is necessary to establish a violation of Section 13(a) or the rules thereunder. SEC v. McNulty, 137 F.3d 732, 740-41 (2d Cir. 1998); SEC v. Wills, 472 F.Supp. 1250, 1268 (D.D.C. 1978).

The purpose of the periodic reporting provisions is to supply the investing public with current and accurate information about an issuer so that the investing public may make informed decisions. As stated in SEC v. Beisinger Indus. Corp., 552 F.2d 15, 18 (1st Cir. 1977) (quoting legislative history):

The reporting requirements of the [Exchange Act are] the primary tool[s] which Congress has fashioned for the protection of investors from negligent, careless, and deliberate misrepresentations in the sale of stock and securities. Congress has extended the reporting requirements even to companies which are "relatively unknown and insubstantial."

CMKM Diamonds admits that it has not filed an annual report since May 9, 2002, or a quarterly report since November 18, 2002, but it contends that it did not violate the periodic reporting provisions, because it had a good faith belief that the number of shareholders of record identified in the original Form 15 was accurate, and that filing was not denied or revoked by the Commission. (Answer at 5, 7; April 13, 2005, Prehearing Conference Tr. 12; Tr. 51-54; Resp. Post-Hearing Br. at 2, 5-7, 15-16.) More specifically, CMKM Diamonds argues that the filing of the Form 15 on July 22, 2003, suspended its duty to file periodic reports until it revoked the Form 15 on February 17, 2005. (Answer at 5, 11-12; Tr. 51-54; Resp. Post-Hearing Br. at 2, 5-7, 15-16.)

Exchange Act Rule 12g-4 provides, in relevant part, that an issuer's duty to file periodic reports shall be suspended immediately upon filing a certification on Form 15 that its class of securities registered under the Exchange Act is held of record by less than 300 persons. Implicit in this rule is that the information reported be true and correct. See SEC v. Savoy Indus., 587 F.2d 1149, 1165 (D.C. Cir. 1978); SEC v. Kalvex, Inc., 425 F. Supp. 310, 316 (S.D.N.Y. 1975); see also Black's Law Dictionary, 124, 220 (7th ed. 1999) (a "certification" is an "attested statement," which means a statement affirmed to be true or genuine). The evidence establishes that CMKM Diamonds knew, or was reckless in not knowing, that it had more than 300 shareholders of record when it filed the Form 15 on July 22, 2003.

On January 12, 2003, CMKM Diamonds issued 994,083,000 shares to 360 people for "fieldwork in Canada."11 (Tr. 157-59; Div. Exs. 15, 26.) CMKM Diamonds also issued almost 3 billion shares to twenty-nine companies on January 22, 2003. (Tr. 87-89; Div. Exs. 16, 26.) On January 7, 2003, CMKM Diamonds announced that it was performing a shareholder audit designed to identify every shareholder of record. (Div. Ex. 29.) Two weeks later, the company announced that it expected the audit to be completed in the next few days. (Div. Ex. 30.) Given the company's recent issuance of shares, this shareholder audit would have determined that CMKM Diamonds had more than 300 shareholders of record as of January 2003.

Less than one month after filing the false Form 15, CMKM Diamonds announced a two-for-one stock split, payable to all shareholders of record as of September 12, 2003. (Div. Exs. 34, 36, 38, 41.) Also, the company announced in September 2003 that it was spinning off a portion of its business, and each shareholder of record as of September 19, 2003, would receive one share of the subsidiary's stock for each share of CMKM Diamonds stock they held. (Div. Ex. 40.) These announcements indicate that CMKM Diamonds was well aware of the true number of its shareholders of record in the months that immediately followed the filing of the false Form 15.

The records of CMKM Diamonds's transfer agent, 1st Global Stock Transfer, LLC (1st Global), establish that CMKM Diamonds had 698 shareholders of record on July 22, 2003. (Tr. 141-42, 146-47, 151; Div. Ex. 13.) 1st Global would have retained a copy of a request by a company for a shareholder list. (Tr. 155-57.) 1st Global has no record or recollection of CMKM Diamonds requesting a copy of a shareholder list or otherwise inquiring as to the number of shareholders it had in July 2003. (Tr. 155-57, 162, 165-66.) Thus, the evidence is that CMKM Diamonds made no effort to confirm or verify the number of shareholders of record before filing the Form 15.

Moreover, an attorney representing CMKM Diamonds wrote a letter to the transfer agent dated February 5, 2004, stating that 1st Global's records of the company's share issuances since January 2003 "match the records and remembrances of [CMKM Diamonds]."12 (Div. Ex. 57.) As such, CMKM Diamonds must have known that it had more than 300 shareholders of record when it filed the original Form 15.

In addition, Casavant and CMKM Diamonds issued statements throughout 2004 that: (1) support my finding that the company either knew, or was reckless in not knowing, that the original Form 15 was false; and (2) contradict the contention that CMKM Diamonds did not believe it had any reporting obligations subsequent to filing the false Form 15. These statements demonstrate that CMKM knew that the original Form 15 was false and that it remained subject to the periodic reporting requirements.

Beginning in January 2004, Casavant mentioned to a business partner that CMKM Diamonds "needed to be reporting," and he assured him ten or twelve times in 2004 that CMKM Diamonds was "working on getting reporting," and that the company was "getting close to be[ing] reporting." (Tr. 208-09, 214.) Casavant wanted to announce that CMKM Diamonds "was reporting" in October 2004 at a shareholder appreciation party. (Tr. 209-10.) In June 2004, CMKM Diamonds issued at least three press releases in which it announced that it was taking steps to becoming fully reporting and that it was dedicated to complying fully with all requirements.13 (Div. Exs. 43-45.) In September 2004, CMKM Diamonds announced that its accountants were "working to complete the audit of the company's financials. When that has been accomplished, the company will be well on its way to becoming a reporting company again." (Div. Ex. 49.) Furthermore, in October 2004, Casavant stated in an interview broadcast on an Internet Web site that the company was "working really hard" to bring current its reporting, and that it was "ahead of schedule." (Tr. 211; Div. Exs. 18, 19.) Although he did not provide an exact date by which the audit would be completed, Casavant indicated that it may be by the end of October 2004. (Div. Exs. 18, 19.)

Assuming arguendo that CMKM Diamonds honestly believed somehow that it had three hundred or less shareholders on July 22, 2003, there is no evidence is that it made an effort to confirm or verify such material information with its transfer agent prior to filing the false Form 15. By not doing so, and in light of its stock issuances and announcements before it filed the Form 15, CMKM Diamonds turned a blind eye to information that would have revealed the misrepresentation in the Form 15. See SEC v. Roor, 2004 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 17416 at *15, *26 (S.D.N.Y. 2004). Accordingly, CMKM Diamonds's conduct in this regard was, at a minimum, reckless. See id.; see also In re Fischbach Corp. Sec. Litig., 1992 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 373 (S.D.N.Y. 1992).

The evidence is overwhelming that CMKM Diamonds and Casavant knew or, at a minimum, was reckless in not knowing, that the original Form 15 was false. I therefore conclude that filing the false Form 15 did not suspend CMKM Diamonds's reporting obligations.14 To conclude otherwise would permit companies to deprive shareholders and the investing public generally of information about the company by knowingly or recklessly filing materially false forms with the Commission.

The facts of this case demonstrate a situation where management deprived shareholders and investors of material information in official filings, but promoted the company to investors through informal news releases and public statements that contained false information. Since filing the false Form 15, CMKM Diamonds has told the public informally that it has engaged in several multi-million dollar transactions. For example, in press releases issued on July 27, 2004, and September 13, 2004, respectively, CMKM Diamonds announced the receipt of $3 million from U.S. Canadian Minerals and $5 million from St. George Minerals. (Tr. 308-09; Div. Exs. 46, 48.) These press released also indicated that CMKM Diamonds would soon file its delinquent reports. As a result of CMKM Diamonds's failure to file periodic reports making formal public disclosure of material information, the investing public has received only self-serving statements from persons promoting CMKM Diamonds.

I conclude that CMKM Diamonds violated Section 13(a) of the Exchange Act and Rules 13a-1 and 13a-13 by failing to file: (1) annual reports since May 9, 2002; and (2) quarterly reports since November 18, 2002.

Finally, at the hearing on May 10, 2005, CMKM Diamonds argued that its periodic filings were only delinquent by twenty-two days.15 (Tr. 51-57; Resp. Post-Hearing Br. at 2, 5-7, 15-16.) However, CMKM Diamonds knew that revocation of the Form 15 required CMKM Diamonds to file all missing periodic reports within sixty days, or by April 18, 2005. (Tr. 324.) As of the date of this Initial Decision, CMKM Diamonds had not filed the missing reports. Therefore, even if I accepted CMKM Diamonds's position that it acted in good faith and believed that the representations in its Form 15 were true, it is still in violation of Section 13(a) of the Exchange Act and Rules 13a-1 and 13a-13.
SANCTIONS

Section 12(j) of the Exchange Act authorizes the Commission, "as it deems necessary or appropriate for the protection of investors," to revoke the registration of a security or suspend the registration of a security for a period not exceeding twelve months if it finds, after notice and an opportunity for hearing, that the issuer of such security has failed to comply with any provision of the Exchange Act or the rules and regulations thereunder. Because I have already concluded that CMKM Diamonds violated Section 13(a) of the Exchange Act and Rules 13a-1 and 13a-13, the only remaining issue is the appropriate sanction.

In determining whether a sanction is appropriate under Section 12(j) of the Exchange Act, the public interest factors identified in Steadman v. SEC are instructive. 603 F.2d 1126, 1140 (5th Cir. 1979), aff'd on other grounds, 450 U.S. 91 (1981); see also WSF Corp. , 77 SEC Docket 1831, 1836-37 (May 8, 2002) (12(j) case applying Steadman). The relevant factors under Steadman are: (1) the egregiousness of the respondent's actions; (2) the isolated or recurrent nature of the infraction; (3) the degree of scienter involved; (4) the sincerity of the respondent's assurances against future violations; (5) the respondent's recognition of the wrongful nature of its conduct; and (6) the likelihood of future violations. 603 F.2d at 1140. No one factor controls. See SEC v. Fehn, 97 F.3d 1276, 1295-96 (9th Cir. 1996).

CMKM Diamonds's violations of the periodic reporting provisions were recurrent, egregious, and evidence a high degree of scienter. Over a period of several years, it failed to file: (1) required annual reports for its fiscal years ended December 31, 2002, 2003, and 2004; and (2) required quarterly reports for the periods ended March 31, June 30, and September 30, 2003, and 2004, and March 31, 2005. Several of these violations occurred after the institution of this proceeding, and each violation occurred after Casavant assumed control of the company. Furthermore, CMKM Diamonds filed a registration statement on Form S-8 in May 2003, more than two months before it filed the false Form 15. (Div. Ex. 6.) Thus, it was required to file periodic reports pursuant to Exchange Act Section 15(d) for at least the remainder of 2003. CMKM Diamonds failed to do so. Lastly, the instructions to Form S-8 require that an issuer may use Form S-8 only when it has filed all required periodic reports for the preceding twelve months. CMKM Diamonds, however, was delinquent in filing its annual report for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2002, when it registered its securities on Form S-8.

CMKM Diamonds's violations involved important provisions of the Exchange Act. Throughout the period during which it has filed no reports, CMKM Diamonds has operated in secret, revealing scant information to the investing public regarding its purported multi-million dollar transactions and stock issuances while the trading volume of its stock is consistently more than 1 billion shares per day. Finally, CMKM Diamonds continues to report a false business address in filings with the Commission.

The company's and Casavant's repeated statements during 2004 about "working on getting reporting" and becoming compliant indicate that the company was acutely aware of its failure to file required periodic reports. Furthermore, as discussed above, CMKM Diamonds misrepresented the number of its shareholders of record in the original Form 15.

CMKM Diamonds does not appreciate the wrongfulness of its conduct and the requirement that it provide the investing public with accurate information. It also has failed to offer adequate assurances against future violations. Although CMKM Diamonds was purportedly "working on getting reporting" during 2004, CMKM Diamonds's first actual efforts at becoming compliant were in January 2005, after the Division had already contacted it regarding its delinquent reports. Prior to that time, the company's financial statements were nonexistent and it had retained no auditor. (Tr. 68-77, 171.) In fact, to this day its financial statements remain nonexistent and its auditor has since resigned due to the company's failure to cooperate with the audit. In February 2005, CMKM Diamonds announced that it was "working toward completing an audit of its financial statements." (Div. Ex. 52.) In reality, however, the company had no financial statements to audit and an audit had yet to begin. Since that time, the company has refused to provide its auditor and bookkeeper with information, despite their repeated requests. Additionally, CMKM Diamonds repeatedly misrepresented its business address in the following months.

Maheu's appointment as director does little to assure me that the company will be able to effect prompt compliance, as he is without sufficient control of the company or the situation. For example, as of the hearing, he was under the mistaken impression that an audit had commenced. Furthermore, he learned at the hearing that the company had consistently failed to provide documents requested by its auditor and bookkeeper.

Finally, CMKM Diamonds's violations of the periodic reporting provisions will likely to continue in the future. Opus Pointe has barely begun assembling the company's financial statements, and despite repeated requests, the company has yet to provide it with substantial information necessary for their completion. Moreover, CMKM Diamonds's auditor recently terminated the engagement due primarily to Casavant's failure to provide promised documents. Thus, CMKM Diamonds has no independent auditor and no financial statements to be audited. Furthermore, no drafts of CMKM Diamonds's missing reports have been prepared and no witness could specify a date by which the company would file any of its delinquent reports. As such, it is highly likely that CMKM Diamonds will continue to violate the periodic reporting provisions in the future.

The public hearing was an opportunity for CMKM Diamonds to address the allegations in the OIP. It failed to do so. Casavant seems to be the only person running the company and he refused to testify. Several witnesses testified that they tried to get financial information from Casavant and he failed to supply it. CMKM Diamonds has been out of compliance since 2002, and has made no good faith effort to remedy the situation.

CMKM Diamonds's failure to file required periodic reports has deprived the investing public of current, reliable information regarding its operations, purported million-dollar transactions, and financial condition. Viewing the Steadman factors in their entirety, I conclude that the appropriate sanction for the protection of investors is revocation of the registration of CMKM Diamonds's securities.
RECORD CERTIFICATION

Pursuant to Rule 351(b) of the Commission's Rules of Practice, 17 C.F.R. § 201.351(b), I hereby certify that the record includes the items set forth in the record index issued by the Secretary of the Commission on July 6, 2005.
ORDER

Based on the findings and conclusions set forth above:

IT IS ORDERED THAT, pursuant to Section 12(j) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registration of each class of securities of CMKM Diamonds, Inc., is hereby REVOKED.

This Initial Decision shall become effective in accordance with and subject to the provisions of Rule 360 of the Commission's Rules of Practice, 17 C.F.R. § 201.360. Pursuant to that Rule, a party may file a petition for review of this Initial Decision within twenty-one days after service of the Initial Decision. A party may also file a motion to correct a manifest error of fact within ten days of the Initial Decision, pursuant to Rule 111 of the Commission's Rules of Practice, 17 C.F.R. § 201.111. If a motion to correct a manifest error of fact is filed by a party, then that party shall have twenty-one days to file a petition for review from the date of the undersigned's order resolving such motion to correct a manifest error of fact. The Initial Decision will not become final until the Commission enters an order of finality. The Commission will enter an order of finality unless a party files a petition for review or a motion to correct a manifest error of fact or the Commission determines on its own initiative to review the Initial Decision as to a party. If any of these events occur, the Initial Decision shall not become final as to that party.

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Brenda P. Murray
Chief Administrative Law Judge

Appendix A

Endnotes

1 The Owners Group is a non-party granted limited participation.

2 The Division called an independent auditor, a Commission information and technology specialist, a transfer agent, a bookkeeper, a business man, and the president, chief executive officer, and co-director of CMKM Diamonds to testify. CMKM Diamonds called a business man, an attorney, and the co-director of CMKM Diamonds to testify.

3 Citations to CMKM Diamonds's Answer will be noted as "(Answer __.)." Citations to the transcript of the hearing will be noted as "(Tr. __.)." Citations to the Division's and CMKM Diamonds's exhibits will be noted as "(Div. Ex. __.)," and "(Resp. Ex. __.)," respectively. Citations to the Division's, John Martin's, and CMKM Diamonds's Post-Hearing Briefs will be noted as "(Div. Post-Hearing Br. __.)," "(Owners Group Post-Hearing Br. __.)," and "(Resp. Post-Hearing Br. __.)," respectively.

4 Cyber Mark was formerly engaged in the electronic game industry. (Div. Ex. 3 at 2.)

5 A trier of fact in a civil proceeding may draw adverse inferences from a respondent's refusal to testify. See Baxter v. Palmigiano, 425 U.S. 308, 319-20 (1976); John Kilpatrick, 48 S.E.C. 481, 486 & n.18 (1986). This may extend to a corporate defendant based on an officer's refusal to testify. See SEC v. Prater, 289 F. Supp. 2d 39, 50 (D. Conn. 2003). Nonetheless, I have not drawn any adverse inferences from Casavant's refusal to testify, because the evidence in the record is more than sufficient to decide this matter. Casavant was represented by David Z. Chesnoff, Las Vegas, Nevada, and Gerald W. Griffin, New York, New York.

6 In February 2005, Debbie Amigone was one of Stoecklein's employees working on CMKM Diamonds matters. (Tr. 163.)

7 Form 15 is titled Certification and Notice of Termination of Registration Under Section 12(g) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 or Suspension of Duty to File Reports Under Sections 13 and 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934.

8 CMKM Diamonds's assertion that it brought the incorrect Form 15 to the Commission's attention in February 2005, when it learned that CMKM Diamonds had more than 300 shareholders on July 22, 2003, is false. (Answer at 5, 11-12; Tr. 318-24, 342-47; Div. Ex. 54.) On December 23, 2004, the Division inquired of counsel why CMKM Diamonds was not filing periodic reports. (Div. Exs. 20, 21.) At that time, CMKM Diamonds was represented by David G. Liston, Hughes Hubbard & Reed, LLP. (Id.) This correspondence establishes that the Commission knew in December 2004 that CMKM Diamonds's Form 15 was false.

9 CMKM Diamonds did not pay Opus Pointe's retainer; rather, it was paid by the Securities Law Institute. (Tr. 169.)

10 CMKM Diamonds's business partners testified that the company did, in fact, have some business operations. According to their testimony: CMKM Diamonds owns one mine shaft in Ecuador, and Nevada Minerals is the operator of the mine. (Tr. 220-22, 237-38, 263-64.) U.S. Canadian Minerals owns a processing facility in Ecuador, which processes the ore that is extracted from CMKM Diamonds's mine. (Tr. 216-21, 236-37, 267-68, 271.) Under the terms of Nevada Minerals's contract with CMKM Diamonds, Nevada Minerals is entitled to twenty percent of the revenue that CMKM Diamonds collects. (Tr. 272-75.)

In 2004, CMKM Diamonds and U.S. Canadian Minerals purportedly split between $90,000 and $120,000 in revenues. (Tr. 217-19, 222-23.) CMKM Diamonds did not, however, actually receive this money, as it went to either Nevada Minerals or the purchase of safety equipment. (Tr. 238-39, 275-76) CMKM Diamonds owed Nevada Minerals $180,000, as of one week before the hearing. (Tr. 239, 273-76; Div. Exs. 22, 23.) As the result of a default letter, the parties agreed in May 2005 that Nevada Minerals will take possession of the "sands" in Ecuador to satisfy the debt that CMKM Diamonds owes Nevada Minerals. (Tr. 273.) Also, in December 2004, Nevada Minerals surrendered 75 billion shares of CMKM Diamonds stock to the company for a $2.2 million promissory note due in December 2005. (Tr. 277-78.) CMKM Diamonds and U.S. Canadian Minerals are also engaged in a joint venture in Canada, which has not generated any revenues. (Tr. 240.)

11 As sole director, Casavant has authorized the issuance of an unbelievable number of CMKM Diamonds's shares. The owner of CMKM Diamonds's transfer agent, who I find credible based on her demeanor, testified that she found this stock issuance to be strange, and she did not transfer stock for any other company with over 778 billion shares outstanding. (Tr. 159, 166.)

12 The letter was written by Brian Dvorak of Dvorak & Associates, Ltd., another attorney representing the company. (Tr. 176.)

13 In two of the press releases, Casavant announced that CMKM Diamonds had retained the law firm of Edwards & Angell. (Div. Exs. 44, 45.)

14 CMKM Diamonds presented no evidence to support its defense that it relied on the advice of counsel in filing the original Form 15. (April 13, 2005, Prehearing Conference Tr. 12; Answer at 3.)

15 Exchange Act Rule 12g-4(b) provides that if the certification on Form 15 is subsequently withdrawn, the issuer shall, within sixty days of such withdrawal, file with the Commission all reports which would have been required had the certification not been filed.
 
Posted by will on :
 
"(assuming we get the financials filed in the next few months)" - big assumptions seeing that they haven't been able to file crapola for financials in three years, and won't furnish any detail.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
"I will likewise report to you in whatever detail I can, my findings in Ecuador and Saskatchewan."

Just great!!! Looks like Bill Frizzy is spending that additional $25 on worthless trips to Ecuador and Saskatchewan vacations. WTF happened to Phase 2? Doesn't that lawyer know that all the records that might exist are in Urban Casavant's home and not in those places. Forgot! Maybe they're in that Body Shop they lied about as being the CMKX address. Or maybe in that secret warehouse location which Casavant can tell him about when he goes to UC's house.

I'd say that some might now be being duped by Frizzy the 2nd time as well as all the times they have been duped by others.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
What do you think Frizzy might see in Ecuador or Sask. but couple of muddy holes? How many records will he see in those holes? How many facts will he uncover besides the fact that a couple of holes exist? WHAT A WASTE!!! GO WHERE THE RECORDS SHOULD BE!
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Well, Ecuador is a different matter IMO. CMKX is not a mining company. They may have got lucky with Ecuador but Nevada Minerals is the MINING company doing the mining. Now Sask. thats were the interest is. What is there besides a very old drill and Dusty's shed that UC stole. I would like to know that myself. Wonder if we would get a honest commentary from Frizzell on it. I really don't think that UC will let Frizzell see Sask. There will be one reason after another why now is not a good time.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
New Auditor gives clues to future.


Brad Beckstead, Note: Epert in IPOs

http://ipo.nasdaq.com/Experts.asp?cikid=68515&fnid=2991&coname=AMRITE+BUILDERS+INC


Brad Beckstead did financials for E-Smart, the company mentioned by the Judge during the hearing.

http://www.secinfo.com/d11ut8.5e.htm
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Thats bull, according to Frizzell himself, he was the only one that would take the job and then charged 6 figures to do it just as a retainer. The SEC isn't going to allow an IPO unless CMKX comes up with all its filings. If you roll the company into CIM then CIM is really CMKX now. The SEC isn't that stupid. If it was that easy to break the law then work around it then there is no use of revoking any company. It's like saying that a Judge gave a monetary settlement against a company and it rolled into a new company that the new company is released from the responsibility, which it isn't. You can dream all you want but without complete filings this is DOA.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Trading on CMKX will go on now until the appeals procedure has run it's course. How does that "protect" future shareholders......the desire of the SEC? What a joke.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
Thats bull, according to Frizzell himself, he was the only one that would take the job and then charged 6 figures to do it just as a retainer. The SEC isn't going to allow an IPO unless CMKX comes up with all its filings. If you roll the company into CIM then CIM is really CMKX now. The SEC isn't that stupid. If it was that easy to break the law then work around it then there is no use of revoking any company. It's like saying that a Judge gave a monetary settlement against a company and it rolled into a new company that the new company is released from the responsibility, which it isn't. You can dream all you want but without complete filings this is DOA.

You really are very naive Ric.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I'm naive, lol. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. This is such an obvious scam that its hard to believe you don't see it. It's naive to think that once trading stops that you will ever see anything from this again.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
trading will continue because everyone has the right to appeal any legal decision. if you are out on bail & inform the judge your appealing a guilty finding, you stay out on bail. i will agree Legal, our system does more to protect the criminal then the victim. personally, from what hakala said about questionable trading i'm betting even if cmkx files the SEC will open their own phase II, its called criminal charges. notice the auditor had his lawyer in on the deal? a 6 figure retainer? i dont think anyone trusts the books cmkx wants audited & i'll bet every entry will be checked by the SEC. i'm also guessing cmkx has some thing that will be skimmed over like the 3 billion shares to 29 companies, the 2 gem buys, the GEMM divy that was never paid. i'm also guessing but i bet the only reason this filing effort, if its true, is happening is UC is worried about frizzy & the OG. i got an idea they screwed up his master plan.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
bill, I agree with the frizzy screwed up UC's master plan. I bet he is calling them wanting updates constantly. They know they can't let the shareholders know this was a scam. Because guess who they will go after next. UC is problably hoping the SEC shoots down his appeal real fast.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Brad Beckstead, Note: Epert in IPOs

http://ipo.nasdaq.com/Experts.asp?cikid=68515&fnid=2991&coname=AMRITE+BUILDERS+INC

Now there is solid proof. lol
One reference note that guy is an auditor for IPO, and he becomes an expert and will handle this bag of crap rolling into a new company. Talk about seeing what you want to see and supporting your contentions with inuendo. God man, get shed of the double standard, and hold yourself and these other daydreaming windbags to the same standard you ask from everyone else when your getting your ass kicked in a logical arguement.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I can't believe someone would even make that statement with a straight face. Did he bother to read the transcripts or read the boards. HOW HARD THEY TRIED TO COOPERATE, lol. UC took the fifth, Auditors quit because they couldn't get documents, and accountants had the same problems. They refused to give shareholders basic information on the company. Maheu wasn't even told what was going on. Cooperate what?????


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*Urban and Maheu never trusted the SEC anyway IMO!


Does anyone really feel this is such a shocker. The SEC (which includes Judge Murray) was bent on taking Urban and CMKM Diamonds, Inc. down NO MATTER HOW HARD WE TRIED TO COOPERATE IMO.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
can't believe someone would even make that statement with a straight face. Did he bother to read the transcripts or read the boards. HOW HARD THEY TRIED TO COOPERATE, lol. UC took the fifth, Auditors quit because they couldn't get documents, and accountants had the same problems. They refused to give shareholders basic information on the company. Maheu wasn't even told what was going on. Cooperate what?????


The co-operation with the SEC took place long before the suspension and hearing.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
And you know this how. I missed that somewhere.

If they weren't even co-operating with there own auditor how do you know they were with the SEC. And since Maheu didn't even know that there was no co-operation or much of anything for that fact, were was the co-operation?

By the way, I said hi to you over on your board legal. I will keep my comment here though. At least you can't give bad ratings there like they did to some of us here. Wasn't very nice.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Ric, you forget only those with negative opinions are required to have proof, or a link. noah and his pals can dream away, and whatever comes out of their imagination is cold hard fact and doesn't require any support or proof.
The CMKX and the faithful's double standard.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Someone needs to rush this guy a big glass of koolaid quick. Next Day mail will get it there by 10am.


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Great response from Bill


but I am not happy with the judges ruling.
It has become apparent to me that UC has lied to us all about the filings for a year or so. Every time he has told us we were close. He had not even taken steps to start the process.
This fiasco reflects very poorly on UC' s integrity and truthfulness.
We can only hope that he just might still be able to get us through this and maybe just maybe actually get the job done with a new auditor on board.
Enough for now I need to sleep on this.

TD
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
No proof or facts for so long has made there delusions grow more important then then company itself.


quote:
Originally posted by will:
Ric, you forget only those with negative opinions are required to have proof, or a link. noah and his pals can dream away, and whatever comes out of their imagination is cold hard fact and doesn't require any support or proof.
The CMKX and the faithful's double standard.


 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
SEEMS BECKSTEAD HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK FOR "FORMERLIES"

http://www.secinfo.com/$/SEC/Name.asp?S=g%2E+brad+beckstead&List=S#Signatory

"G. Brad Beckstead" has been a Signatory for/with the following 81 Registrants:
Absolute Glass Protection Inc [ formerly Benchmark Technology Corp ]
Afv Solutions/Inc [ formerly Dogs International ]
American Capital Partners Limited Inc [ formerly American Product Corp ]
American Toy Vending Inc
Amrite Builders Inc
Angelciti Entertainment Inc/FL [ formerly Ichance International Inc ]
Baylor Industries Inc
Blackhawk Fund [ formerly ZannWell Inc ]
Blue Holdings/Inc [ formerly Marine Jet Technology Corp ]
Calif Acquisitions Inc
Carroll Shelby International Inc [ formerly Ginseng Forest Inc ]
Casino Entertainment Inc [ formerly Reservenet Inc ]
Certified Services Inc
China Pharmaceuticals International Corp [ formerly China Pharmaceuticals Corp ]
Columbia Bakeries Inc [ formerly Ecom Corp ]
Coronado Resources Inc
Cyberlux Corp
Dicut Inc
Digital Learning [ formerly Freepcsquote Com ]
Duska Therapeutics/Inc [ formerly Shiprock Inc ]
E-Smart Technologies Inc [ formerly Boppers Holdings Inc/NV ]
Eagle Golf Corp
Eclic Inc/NV
Eden Energy Corp [ formerly E Com Technologies Corp ]
Edgar Filingnet Inc
Electra Capital Inc/NV [ formerly Asga Inc/NV ]
Emporia Systems
Enviro Energy Corp [ formerly Thermafreeze Inc ]
Epic Financial Corp [ formerly Big Equipment Services Inc ]
Fore Inc
Future Carz Inc [ formerly Future Carz Com Inc ]
Global Freight Integrators Inc [ formerly Energy River Corp ]
Gold Camp Cripple Creek Colorado Inc
Hesperia Holding Inc [ formerly Saveyoutime Com Inc ]
I a Europe Group Inc [ formerly General Telephony Com Inc ]
Immediatek Inc [ formerly Moderngroove Entertainment Inc ]
Independent Asset Management Corp
instaCare Corp [ formerly Caredecision Corp ]
Insynq Inc [ formerly Xcel Management Inc/UT ]
Interactive Outdoors Inc
Interbank Capital Corp
Intrac Inc
Issg/Inc [ formerly Rub Investments Ltd ]
IT&E International Group [ formerly Clinical Trials Assistance Corp ]
Joshua Tree Construction Inc
Karma Media Inc [ formerly Estelle Reyna Inc ]
Keystone Ventures Inc
Mandalay Ventures Ltd
Medical Staffing Solutions Inc
Mercado Industries Inx
Metasource Group Inc [ formerly Cobratech International Inc ]
Microislet Inc [ formerly Ald Services Inc ]
Muller Media Inc [ formerly Business Translation Services Inc ]
Navitone Technologies Inc [ formerly World Wide Web Inc ]
Newsearch Inc
Nothing Corp
Nuclear Solutions Inc [ formerly Stock Watchman Inc ]
Paramco Financial Group Inc [ formerly Prestige Group Net Inc ]
Petrol Oil & Gas Inc [ formerly Euro Technology Outfitters ]
Pinoak Inc/NV
Pony Express USA Inc [ formerly Silver State Vending Corp ]
Power Technology Inc/CN
Primeplayer Inc [ formerly Foxy Jewelry Inc ]
Project Group Inc [ formerly Dolphin Knowledge ]
Protocall Technologies Inc [ formerly Quality Exchange Inc ]
Rapidtron Inc [ formerly Furnishing Club ]
Renovo Holdings [ formerly Fortis Enterprises ]
Sirius Software Inc
Sky Petroleum/Inc [ formerly Seaside Exploration Inc ]
Sosa Inc
T Plex Technologies
Tac Asset Corp
Terax Energy/Inc [ formerly Royal Phoenix ]
Twin Faces East Entertainment Corp
United Fuel & Energy Corp [ formerly Brands Shopping Network Inc ]
Vanity Enterprises Inc
Winsonic Digital Media Group Ltd [ formerly Winsonic Ditigal Media Group Ltd ]
Wireless Wizard Inc
Wordlogic Corp [ formerly Americanwest Com Inc ]
World Information Technology Inc [ formerly Ez Travel Inc ]
Your Domain Com
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
They are an auditor of public companies. I am sure they have done business with a lot of different types of public and private companies. I sure they have worked with just about any company you want to compare yours with. Just because you sign with a agent that represents Barry Bonds don't make you a homerun power house.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
the only way this cult wouldn't turn the auditor into some god like auditor is if it was his first audit & then they would put the clown above everyone somehow. the guy is supposed to take all the books & proof that what is entered into those books is the truth & add everything up to make sure the companies math is correct. i wonder if he understands cmkx math, the type of math that takes .0011 micrgrams & it becomes hundereds of billions worth of diamonds. he also better turn all phone numbers off cause the cult will be calling every hour for updates,
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
So now we have a new hero. What can Beckerhead (?) accomplish that others could not? Is UC actually going to produce records this time? Does Beckerhead wear a red cape? Is he going to go to Sask and look in empty holes, too? Was he included in the original "master plam"?
IMO, some of the faithful are bailing out and saying goodbye. Seems to me that 120 days from now there will be nobody left but them. Everyone else has the sense to see that this whole thing is going nowhere....
 
Posted by will on :
 
Everyone that is hired or comes in contact with pos company is an EXPERT. Then after they wet their beak for 6 figures, and the results of their efforts amount to 0, they become professionals that UC relied on that screwed him. Just prepare yourself for more of the same. If the faithful doesn't see a pattern here, they glorify, supersize, and magnify these guys, then later they become scapegoats, cheaters, and liars.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
That about covers it....
 
Posted by will on :
 
Just how many times does it take for you faithful fools to see things as they really are. Think about it, noah. There has been so many moments of greatness just around the corner, then when you turn that corner instead of fulfillmet of your fantastic theory, you find a pitbull that latches on to your pouch. Then you run back to Dr. D, and your other gurus, and get a bandaid, and he hands you the next great happening. You crawl off, grateful, and thankful for his thoughts and instruction, and go out and preach the gospel according to Dr. D et al. Then suddenly you hear the growl of the angry pitbull, and CHOMP!
You are either the biggest fool I have ever seen, a masochist, a horse's ass, or you are putting us on and just like to be the devil's advocate. A thousand disappointment, and more to come, and you try to convince everyone that all is well in CMKXtown.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
AW, come on, let the guy wriggle in his misery. Dont you know he has inside info?? He knows the master plam !!! Legal/Noah knows EVERYTHING will be all right.
It's just a matter of time until the cult overthrows the evil SEC, DTCC and all the market makers. Little do we realize that UC and his gang are the most powerful force ever to hit the Earth. After they straighten out the stock market, they will turn their attention to world famine and war, and solve that problem too.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
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I want to preface this post with the statement that I am still very confident in our position and I believe the company is fully able to prevail in the Appeals process and or the filing of a Form 10 to resolve the registration problems we obviously are having and can’t seem to deal with at this time. I fully support Mr. Casavant, Mr. Maheu and the company and their energies to accomplish what they have set out to do for all of us although I may disagree with the methodology. This initial decision of judge brenda is not the end, nor the beginning of the end for CMKM Diamonds. We have 21 days to Appeal and then I believe a 90 day process to present our case to have the revocation overturned. I intend to hold on and hang in here for the long haul as I have often said. I believe CMKX has the goods and I also believe that the company with or without having the securities registered will succeed.

(Warning, I may vent a little bit here and there.)
To start with, we fully expected that Judge Murray would revoke without filings from the company and she did. I do fully disagree with her decision as I do not believe the SEC presented an effective case to prove the Form 15 was filed in error intentionally by the company. Since the SEC did not prove intentional misconduct, then the filings should have been governed by SEC regulation allowing them 60 days to comply before they were even 1 day late. After consideration of Judge Murray’s conduct prior to and during the hearing, as siding with the SEC, along with comments she made prematurely about the Appeal, I believe her initial decision, IMHO, was made before the hearing was ever over and before all of the evidence was in. You can make of that statement what you will, but I believe her ruling should be thrown out, she should be disqualified, and her conduct and intent investigated. I just hope she can sleep at night after waving the options that were before her and opting to revoke instead of suspension, extension, or settlement. Why? I won’t say. I hope she understands what she is putting these shareholders through by her “rush to judgment”. It is only my opinion, but I believe she knew what she was going to do going into the hearing and that was revoke.

I think we can all understand the frustration that many shareholders are experiencing right now with the company, the SEC, certain individuals, and the market system as a whole. It is true that it is very disappointing to all of us that the company could not supply an acceptable progress report or the filings that the SEC or the Judge wanted to see in order to prevent this “initial decision” of revocation from being handed down. We all expected that even a progress report with a few past due filings from 2002 and/or 2003 would have went a long way.

I guess we were running a lot on trust, hope, and belief that the management of the company would be able to successfully thwart the efforts of the SEC and accomplices to revoke the securities registration during the hearing and we were wrong. After seeing the progressive moves from the regulators with:
(1) A joke of a regulation with SHO being promoted as a solution to NSS
(2) We find out that the regulators had been revealing to the Naked shorters the ins and outs of SHO,
(3) Furnishing shorty with advanced lists of the Threshold Securities
(4) Permitting Shorty to cover one naked short with another naked short to reset the dates of the failure to delivers
(5) Limiting the liability of the SRO’s for willful misconduct, gross negligence, violations of federal securities laws, etc…
(6) Refusing to investigate NSS positions being held against companies and mocking the shareholders when they complain
(7) Allowing the SRO’s to intimidate Media sources from disclosing or revealing information such as StockGate
(8) Blaming Paper Stock Certificates as the markets failure to deliver problem
(9) Pushing Dematerialization across the U.S. to make it illegal to hold or own paper stock certificates
(10) Protecting the Illegal Stock Counterfeiters by refusing access by companies and transfer agents to a company’s trading activities
(11) Making it illegal for a company to voluntarily withdraw from the DTCC even if it is to protect the integrity of the company and it’s ability to operate in getting away from NSS being logged against the company’s security by the DTCC/NSCC unless it is permitted to withdraw by DTCC permission (Which it denies 99% of the time)
(12) Anything else you care to enter!

it became obvious that we were up against a clear “monster” or “mobster” in the SEC, DTCC, NSCC, and associates. They clearly have an agenda and are willing to do what it takes to see it carried out. There is a lot at stake for the SEC, the DTCC, and the NSCC to move to STP (Straight Through Processing) and if Stock Counterfeiting were proven on a huge scale in the market place it would stop their progress towards STP on a dime. Congress would have to step in and demand a fix to the system that would take years as they would have to rewrite some regulations and there would be no tolerance for the fails that STP would cause. With STP in place without paper stock certificates available and intervention by Transfer Agents being prohibited by new rules the DTCC/SEC/NSCC would rule the market and govern trading nearly worldwide with no resistance or transparency. JMHO of course.

We knew we had to be on the top of our game to get through the Administrative Hearing favorably and as we all know, we were not on the top of our game. I’m not to sure at this point that we really ever got into the game at the Hearing. If I am correct in my assumption, and I believe I am, then the company “will file the Appeal” and hopefully let us know that they have filed it. (I know that is a little sarcastic, but I believe it is warranted.)

It is sad to see so many misinterpret what transpired today with this “initial decision” by the judge and unfortunately the SEC is going to allow trading for 21 days leading up to the appeals process and so many shareholders are already positioning themselves to make the mistake of selling their positions. Unfortunately after such a brave fight by many for so long, they are selling out to shorty and don’t even know it. Sometimes it’s hard to hold on and sometimes it is hard to hang in there, but I still believe Greenbaron was right when he said this is the “Stock Play of a Life Time”. By far it has been that for me and it isn’t even close to being over. I for one will be trying to get into position to buy more shares if at all possible over the next few days if for no other reason than to keep them out of shorty’s hands.

The bottom line is that we didn’t get ANY filings and we don’t know why. We can only speculate that the filings simply were not ready to be filed with the regulators, because the company has not said a word to us. Unacceptable! They did say when the Form 15A was filed that we could not meet the 60 day deadline that would be imposed by the SEC regs, but nothing really since that time. Personally, I am very disappointed in the management of the company and their ability to communicate with us, as shareholders. It is one thing for the company/Mr. Casavant/Mr. Maheu to not be in a position to furnish the SEC with necessary 10K’s, 10Q’s, 8K’s, etc…, but in my opinion I believe the company reached the point of inexcusable when we the shareholders stand with the company through all of the BS we have been through and not one single word of explanation, direction, or condolence being uttered from those we have supported other than Mr. Frizzell. Thank you very much sir for your incredible efforts for all of us.

I fully respect Mr. Casavant and Mr. Maheu as I believe they are incredible individuals in their own right, but this silence over the last month is and has been BS to the 10th degree. It has been since October when Mr. Casavant asked us to stick with him “ONE MORE TIME”. Now, I am asking you to PLEASE communicate with us about what is going on without all of the “clues and innuendoes” before we lose any more of our shareholder base. I am aware of the mining industry and the competitiveness that goes on, but IMHO this has nothing to do with that. I believe if we stay in we win, but if we are going to keep the shareholders of this company then we are in need of more than that. We were told to keep looking for 8k’s for info that had some confusing info and then even that dried up. If Mr. Frizzell is your communication to us, then tell us your communication is going to come through him. If someone is trying to take the company over let us know and we will help. If we entered toxic financing and difficulties have been raised let us know and we will do what we can. If you have everything under control and want us to shut up and stay put, then tell us. We simply need to know “what is going on”?

It is my understanding that Mr. Casavant is in Ecuador at this time, but that does not make it impossible for him to communicate with us. Hopefully this is premature on my part and we hear from Mr. Casavant or Mr. Maheu today regarding these developments and the strategy that the company has in place to challenge this decision of judge brenda. (Non capitalization intended. Sorry I am perturbed). In my opinion acceptable communication has to be established between the shareholders and the company before any more damage can be done. Shorty is shooting shareholder fish in a barrel and we have little to no defense against their allegations as it appears that the trust factor is gone by the wayside.

On the other hand I believe Mr. Frizzell has earned our respect and support and those that are still willing and able, I would suggest you get on board for Phase 2 now while we still have this opportunity to keep Mr. Frizzell going onward for us. I believe in his approach, plan, team, and his intent. I believe he has been an awesome asset, along with his team (Mr. Martin and others) and with him working alongside Mr. Casavant, Mr. Maheu, and Mr. Stoecklein we have an awesome opportunity to resolve the NSS position, expose the market manipulators/regulators, and get the company compliant over the next 90 days. JMHO of course.

Thanks for listening. If you disagree with me that is okay as well. We are all just shareholders and we all make our own assessments and decisions. I do believe success is at hand in spite of the initial decision of judge brenda. These are just my opinions and I ask that you treat them as such.

Be well.

Dr.D
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
ED19... I feel for you and your rotten day.
I HATE DETROIT. Used to live there and always treated like a piece of chit all the time....
can't say enough bad things about De****.......................................................
 
Posted by will on :
 
LOL, ed.

I have never seen anyone like this fool. He'll be dead, and somehow, someway, manage to pump this pos from the grave.
It's just all so mind boggling. Like I said, he is either the biggest fool on earth, is getting paid to pump this crap, or just arguing for arguement's sake. Frankly, I don't think he's smart enough to be getting paid, he's doing it for some other mentally perverted reason.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Another dreamer who likes to hear himself talk.
 
Posted by ACKCANE on :
 
Does DrD smoke a lot of crack?
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockster5:
ED19... I feel for you and your rotten day.
I HATE DETROIT. Used to live there and always treated like a piece of chit all the time....
can't say enough bad things about De****.......................................................

Detroit?? Who said anything about Detroit?
I'm having a grand day. My business is pulling in about $8000 a month. I'll never be rich, but it's a comfortable living, combined with my retirement benefits from two previous careers.
I just feel for these poor deluded fools who got taken by UC and still dont realize it.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ACKCANE:
Does DrD smoke a lot of crack?

Or at least smoking someone else's crack [Big Grin] Keep walking that close behind Urban and the air is bound to get stale and have a negative effect on the thinking power.

This stock is a "scam" and we have been scammed.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Bet the Honorable Brenda P. Murray, would just love to read Dr. D's assessment of her ruling and fairness.

"To start with, we fully expected that Judge Murray would revoke without filings from the company and she did. I do fully disagree with her decision as I do not believe the SEC presented an effective case to prove the Form 15 was filed in error intentionally by the company. Since the SEC did not prove intentional misconduct, then the filings should have been governed by SEC regulation allowing them 60 days to comply before they were even 1 day late. After consideration of Judge Murray’s conduct prior to and during the hearing, as siding with the SEC, along with comments she made prematurely about the Appeal, I believe her initial decision, IMHO, was made before the hearing was ever over and before all of the evidence was in. You can make of that statement what you will, but I believe her ruling should be thrown out, she should be disqualified, and her conduct and intent investigated. I just hope she can sleep at night after waving the options that were before her and opting to revoke instead of suspension, extension, or settlement. Why? I won’t say. I hope she understands what she is putting these shareholders through by her “rush to judgment”. It is only my opinion, but I believe she knew what she was going to do going into the hearing and that was revoke."

I'm sure one of the foolish faithful will forward it to her, telling her that this is what the ultimate CMKX and legal authority, (Dr. D), thinks of her. Well, at least I hope they do.

Do I detect the smell of chit in the good Doctors blood. This couldn't be the beginning of a back pedal, could it? OH GOD! Not from the good Doctor.

"I fully respect Mr. Casavant and Mr. Maheu as I believe they are incredible individuals in their own right, but this silence over the last month is and has been BS to the 10th degree. It has been since October when Mr. Casavant asked us to stick with him “ONE MORE TIME”. Now, I am asking you to PLEASE communicate with us about what is going on without all of the “clues and innuendoes” before we lose any more of our shareholder base. I am aware of the mining industry and the competitiveness that goes on, but IMHO this has nothing to do with that. I believe if we stay in we win, but if we are going to keep the shareholders of this company then we are in need of more than that. We were told to keep looking for 8k’s for info that had some confusing info and then even that dried up. If Mr. Frizzell is your communication to us, then tell us your communication is going to come through him. If someone is trying to take the company over let us know and we will help. If we entered toxic financing and difficulties have been raised let us know and we will do what we can. If you have everything under control and want us to shut up and stay put, then tell us. We simply need to know “what is going on”?

It is my understanding that Mr. Casavant is in Ecuador at this time, but that does not make it impossible for him to communicate with us. Hopefully this is premature on my part and we hear from Mr. Casavant or Mr. Maheu today regarding these developments and the strategy that the company has in place to challenge this decision of judge brenda. (Non capitalization intended. Sorry I am perturbed). In my opinion acceptable communication has to be established between the shareholders and the company before any more damage can be done. Shorty is shooting shareholder fish in a barrel and we have little to no defense against their allegations as it appears that the trust factor is gone by the wayside."
 
Posted by Thorn on :
 
Just when is "Judgement Day" anyhow? Anyone have a definative date?
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
If the market makers can cover 2 billion shares a day on a 3 trillion share ns, it will only take them 1500 trading days to cover. About 5 years.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
If the market makers can cover 2 billion shares a day on a 3 trillion share ns, it will only take them 1500 trading days to cover. About 5 years.

They can have my 22M, if they want them at .01
LOLOLOLOLOL
 
Posted by will on :
 
I have never seen any proof this pos is NSS'd. Just inuendo and inference from your fat mouth, noah.
Show us the numbers not hearsay bullchit.
Soon they won't have to cover anything except put the lid on the CMKX garbage can.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
It is my understanding that Mr. Casavant is in Ecuador at this time, but that does not make it impossible for him to communicate with us

HUMMMMMM what did I say about Urban et al moving to SA [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
I have never seen any proof this pos is NSS'd. Just inuendo and inference from your fat mouth, noah.
Show us the numbers not hearsay bullchit.
Soon they won't have to cover anything except put the lid on the CMKX garbage can.

It looks like the garbage has left town [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
To UC:
Show us.
Show us the numbers.
Show us the plam.
Show us how you care for us.


Or get the hell out of the country.
 
Posted by will on :
 
ed, I think Dr. D has asked UC to do the same thing. He just took alot more words to do it, the loquacious windbag.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
QUACK! QUAC............!

Ding Dong the SCAM is dead.
The SCAM is dead.
The wicked SCAM is dead!
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
And that is why there is no 3 trillion shares like you want everyone to believe. It worked the opposite way too.

quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
If the market makers can cover 2 billion shares a day on a 3 trillion share ns, it will only take them 1500 trading days to cover. About 5 years.


 
Posted by Ric on :
 
The blame game starts again. They refuse to see that they made a bad investment so its everyone else's fault. Thats right, a Judge will ruin her reputation to mess over this little insignificant little pink sheet stock. It can't be because she is right. And when people find out the truth, these self righteous gurus better watch out. Because there is already starting to be people out for blood. And these pumpers are just as much liable for this as UC himself.
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
The OG would be better off spending the monies collected in a class action suit instead of trying to make UC come clean! JMHO
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Wonder if anyone has suggested that to Frizz???
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, he just might be setting the stage for that as his final phase, of course, with additional phases attached. LOL

quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Wonder if anyone has suggested that to Frizz???


 
Posted by will on :
 
I think you see a subtle shift in the last rambling by Dr. D too. It's subtle, but there, he's just glancing at, not pointing at UC with his petition to communicate, something, anything to us, (us being the foolish faithful).
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Fine by me, as long as he does it on a contingency basis. I'm a terrible cheapskate....LOL
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Fine by me, as long as he does it on a contingency basis. I'm a terrible cheapskate....LOL

The cup of coffee your proceeds would yeild isn't enough for Fizzy, unless it is StarBucks coffee.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Fine by me, as long as he does it on a contingency basis. I'm a terrible cheapskate....LOL

The cup of coffee your proceeds would yeild isn't enough for Fizzy, unless it is StarBucks coffee.
Tell ya what? If he gets me .01 for all my shares, I'll buy him all the Starbucks coffee he can drink.
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
For each share of .01 for the whole bunch?? LOL
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Will:
quote:
you find a pitbull that latches on to your pouch.
Now that's gotta sting.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Just for the hallibut, I just entered a sell order for 20 million shares at .01 EACH!!!!
Maybe those evil MMs will get that desperate to cover their butts before UC and Maheu drop the hammer on them.

Sometimes my humor just cracks me up.....LOL
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
OOOPs...I meant Bill.... sorry ed. I misread the nic. But I still hate Det****...(my own ****)


S5
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
ed ,--- Sometimes my humor just cracks me up.....LOL


Crack came to mind when I started reading it, lol. But really, how many koolaid drinkers still think they will get .01 or more. It really is sad to think they refuse to see the truth.
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
I'll tell you all what.... I never bought a share of cmkx, but I keep coming back here because I realized that I'm learning so much while being entertained as well. This has been a huge instructional live seminar on penny stocks. I have said it before, I am still genuinely sympathetic for the people who early on bought shares in cmkx who were only guilty of not doing their homework. I can’t bash those people because I’ve been there myself. The one’s who get no sympathy are the people who continue to pump for unknown reasons, mislead folks and perhaps outright lie. This includes UC’s lying PR’s.
I reiterate what Ric and myself have said, that microcaps are the realm of day trading, which means, not holding long like a regular stock.
I like to thank everybody for all the input that’s still going on.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Stockster, if you're really smart, you never will buy a penny stock.
Over a long haul, you're better off buying 10 shares of a stock that will pay you cash dividends. You wont get rich overnight, but you will sleep better at night.

TMA, FULT, AHR, just to mention a few.
Check em out.
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
Well, that's exactly what I intend to do just as soon as I sell my 2002 Kmart stock.

S5
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i started a thread at pb32...no link anymore at this office so cant see what happened, probably no responce but i'd love to see the reasons behinmd this...well lets say the reasons cmkx will have to make up to file. 360 ppl got just under 1 billion shares...360, all on the same day. this is less then 1 yr after UC dumped these claims into cybermark. 360 ppl on 1 old drill rig??? 360 ppl to find the claim list? or is it 360 ppl that lived near UC & his old prison guard buddies.


the judge pointed out 29 companies that got 3 billion shares all on the same day and within a few days of the 360 ppl. what did 29 companies do to earn shares? 29!!!!! 5 or 6 maybe but not 29.


this as the smell of lining a bunch of ppl pockets & all with ties to UC & family. i want to see a list of the company names, bet UC & pals own every single 1 of them. yet not 1 person at pb32 ever batted an eye at those numbers, not the share total, he11 4 billion is chicken chit compared to 703 billion but the number of ppl that got free shares.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
A topic from CT

"Subject: Okay has anyone here pannicked and sold out"

OK, since when is it panicking to sell a stock that just got revoked? These people are so silly (trying to be nice). It is like, if you sell then you committed treason. These people really need therapy.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Mines AtHome. Still have the shares in my account haunting me. They owned the website Excite and some other things before they went belly up. Stock was $96 a share in 1999. Oh well, win some lose some. I love pennies for the hype. Study the ones that can move (PRRM with 71 billion shares don't fit that rule) and look for bottom on the charts and the hype. Buy and sell quick. I never hold a penny anymore, no matter how much I like it.


quote:
Originally posted by stockster5:
Well, that's exactly what I intend to do just as soon as I sell my 2002 Kmart stock.

S5


 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
Yup Ric. That's what I'm learning all along. Troll for bottom feeders then sell if upped to 40%. You at least get your money back to play the next day. Actually, any positive percent should be sell elerts.
Have to watch free ride warnings from your broker. They don't like day traders who don't have 25,000 in the account.
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
really, the worst thing has to be, holding kmart for so long, then watching Conaway run it into the ground. Then, since it's kmart, you think it's so big somebody will fix it, so you hold some more. Then another ceo crook comes in, files brankruptcy, makes all old stock worthless, then re-issues preferred stock at 5 cents to all his buddies and creditors, THEN opens it up to public at 5.00 pps and now it's over 90.00.
It's truly criminal.
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
Oh, yea, then this kmart ceo walks in less than 8 months with a 100 million stock/pension package.
Incredible
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
i started a thread at pb32...no link anymore at this office so cant see what happened, probably no responce but i'd love to see the reasons behinmd this...well lets say the reasons cmkx will have to make up to file. 360 ppl got just under 1 billion shares...360, all on the same day. this is less then 1 yr after UC dumped these claims into cybermark. 360 ppl on 1 old drill rig??? 360 ppl to find the claim list? or is it 360 ppl that lived near UC & his old prison guard buddies.


the judge pointed out 29 companies that got 3 billion shares all on the same day and within a few days of the 360 ppl. what did 29 companies do to earn shares? 29!!!!! 5 or 6 maybe but not 29.


this as the smell of lining a bunch of ppl pockets & all with ties to UC & family. i want to see a list of the company names, bet UC & pals own every single 1 of them. yet not 1 person at pb32 ever batted an eye at those numbers, not the share total, he11 4 billion is chicken chit compared to 703 billion but the number of ppl that got free shares.

Bill, 72 Cree Nation Tribes, each having a chief and 4 assistant chiefs. Do the math. 72 x 5 = 360 Wonder why so many shares to the Cree Nations that hold so much land in Saskatchewan? You're right no need for 360 "day laborers" was there?
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
BTW bill. Your "post" is nearing the bottom of page 2 already, with no responses. I think they have learned to just ignore your rants there, too.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
360 Injuns....so why was this not in a PR?
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
A topic from CT

"Subject: Okay has anyone here pannicked and sold out"

OK, since when is it panicking to sell a stock that just got revoked? These people are so silly (trying to be nice). It is like, if you sell then you committed treason. These people really need therapy.

I guess half a report is better than none, Ric. Did you also note that none of them had sold out. Folks who do DD are still buying as much as they can. Sure you can call us all silly or some fiercer names used on this board. But the truth is, most of the negs on this board just can't shake that feeling that somethings just haven't been revealed yet, and you are all scared you are going to be left out. That's why the incessant senseless bashing, you know there's more there than meets the eye, and you feel that if you bash long enough and hard enough, that somehow, someway, maybe CMKX will just go away and justify your mistake of selling. Sorry, I know, and you know that this is a long way from over. Those who have done their DD and unearthed the quantity and quality of claims under the control of CMKX and it's JV's know that this isn't a scam. They know about the diamonds, the oil sands, the uranium, the gold claims. They know about the justice department and CIA involvement in CMKX for some time. They know that below the surface it is a sting to capture a whole bunch of "shorties". And they know that is why the plays have been in secret, and why this whole SEC thing is just part of the sting and the resulting settlement agreement.

I know that it is easy for all of you to make light of these shareholders who have gone a little farther and dug a little deeper. That is because of the vacuum of information coming from the company. And the vacuum of info is due to the "surrounding circumstances" mentioned above.

And before I leave this post, let me ask a serious question and see if any of you can come up with a serious response. Not the typical childish responses, but a well thought out one.

If this company is a scam and doesn't have the goods, why would Urban invite the Shareholders Group Attorney Bill Frizzell on a trip to Ecuador and Canada,in a few days, to show him the "lack" of anything good? That wouldn't be a real bright idea to show empty holes and miniscule diamond samplings to the guy who might be sueing you soon.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
If the market makers can cover 2 billion shares a day on a 3 trillion share ns, it will only take them 1500 trading days to cover. About 5 years.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Thats alright, I bumped it back to the first page.

quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
BTW bill. Your "post" is nearing the bottom of page 2 already, with no responses. I think they have learned to just ignore your rants there, too.


 
Posted by Ric on :
 
If there was that large of NSS in three years they would have had to sell 4 billion shares a day short above the normal trading and the massive dilution UC flooded to the market.

quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
If the market makers can cover 2 billion shares a day on a 3 trillion share ns, it will only take them 1500 trading days to cover. About 5 years.


 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Legal <--- They know about the diamonds, the oil sands, the uranium, the gold claims. They know about the justice department and CIA involvement in CMKX for some time.

=========================================

Prove it.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
15 holes drilled and they found all that. Of course the 8-K claims different. You wouldn't be suggesting that UC lied on the 8-K would you. Well, he did lie on the form 15 so I guess you may be.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
And the number of holes drilled by our JV's???
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
Legal <--- They know about the diamonds, the oil sands, the uranium, the gold claims. They know about the justice department and CIA involvement in CMKX for some time.

=========================================

Prove it.

I did my DD, not gonna do yours. And BTW, you don't "prove" CIA involvement, you just see the results, sometimes. As for DOJ, some indictments have already been public. Many more coming.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I did the dd too. And its not true.


CMKX owner UC is going to prison tomorrow. Prove me wrong. Give me a link to where I am wrong with that statement. You can't like I can't give you one that its true. Same with your statement. Its a dream, made up by the cult with no facts to back it up. You can't prove it so you say, I'm not doing your dd. But if someone brings up something you don't want to here it's give me proof. Yet the cult can never back up any of there statements.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
I did they dd too. And its not true.

The simplicity of your response bespeaks the level of due diligence.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
And your not telling the truth. Because there is no proof that CMKX has anything. And from the hearing and the accountants statement there is good proof that CMKX has nothing.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
As I pointed out in the 14C, it clearly stated that no exploration was done on the property by the former owners. Another lie.


quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
And the number of holes drilled by our JV's???


 
Posted by will on :
 
Still fighting that double standard, Ric?

The best thing I read from this guy is that they're still buying. Hope they buy all they can. Hope they put a second on their house, and use that to buy this pos. Keep buying.
BUY! BUY! BUY!
Btw, noah, have you bought more since you told us how many shares you have? If not, you better hurry and get to the bank before this thing skyrockets and you miss the boat, pal.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
From Feb 2003 14C

This report is prepared on behalf of Fort a la Corne Diamond Fields Inc., and is intended to
document the status of kimberlite exploration activities in and around 5 properties which are
located within the Fort à la Corne kimberlite field of central Saskatchewan. The 5 properties
consist of 636 mineral claims with a total area of 247 708 ha (611 625 acres), which are
currently wholly owned by others, as listed in Table 1.
Table 1: Properties of interest
Registered Owner Number of Claims Area (ha) Recording Date
Buckshot Holdings Ltd. (50%)
Commando Holdings Ltd. (50%) 318 78 177 March 2 and 9, 2001
101010307 Saskatchewan Ltd. 142 70 427 May 11, 2001
101012190 Saskatchewan Ltd. 106 81 568 August 16, 2001
101027101 Saskatchewan Ltd. 34 8 320 March 20, 2002
Morgain Minerals Inc. 36 9 216 March 20, 2002
No exploration work has been conducted on the 5 properties by the present owners. There are
no known kimberlite occurrences within the 5 properties, but all are reasonably proximal to the
74 known kimberlite bodies of the Fort à la Corne kimberlite field. The geological setting and
geophysical exploration characteristics of the Fort à la Corne area are discussed, providing a
framework to assess the prospectivity of the properties for further kimberlite discoveries.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Agreed Will, by the way legal theres you DD on proving your last statement false. As I said, I did do my DD.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Ric, what does the lack of holes drilled prior to 2003 have to do with the number of holes that have been drilled since, by us and our JV's? You may do DD, but you see, it has to be applicable to be diligent.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
MAde up holes don't count though. And according to CMKX's 8-K only 15 holes have been drilled since. There is no other proof to support more.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
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Do you really think all this money would be spent on the defense of CMKX, or the prestigious people involved ( IBM , STOCKLEIN) in defending the CO, risking their name being pulled thru the mud or people like BILL & JOHN putting their business to the side to aid in the defense & protect our investment if this were a scam?? I hope that everyone holds on to what they have and joins the OG no matter how the judge rules.This was expected by most and not a surprise. In Bills update he refers to the criminals who would see us destroyed, why would he put himself at risk if he wasn't 100% sure of what we have and what we can and will eventually do if this were a scam?? He is a very smart man, too smart for that I think!Come on Guys & Gals , let the pros do their jobs and stop 2nd guessing them. Remember it's all in the pr's & (IF YOUR IN : YOU WIN)!!!!!! HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT DAY!!!!!!!! HSB625 PS:Remember what UC said about CERTS? GET THEM!!!!
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
Ric, what does the lack of holes drilled prior to 2003 have to do with the number of holes that have been drilled since, by us and our JV's? You may do DD, but you see, it has to be applicable to be diligent.

Sound like the evidence is clear that the only drilling that has been going on is the apparent holes in the heads of the faithful and yes especially you legal. I always thought that you were somewhat intelligent, but after seeing the crap that you buy into, it's apparent that there is not much going on in that head of yours.

Get a grip, this was and is a scam, scam, scam,UC is a con aritst and is going to get his, probably end up in jail,now prove me wrong [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
MAde up holes don't count though. And according to CMKX's 8-K only 15 holes have been drilled since. There is no other proof to support more.

Ric expect for the 14 holes in legal's head [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
MAde up holes don't count though. And according to CMKX's 8-K only 15 holes have been drilled since. There is no other proof to support more.

Ric expect for the 14 holes in legal's head and the other faithful [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Legal, to paraphrase a great game...

You dont know Jack.

All your posts combined prove only one thing....you are talking out of the wrong end of your body. I just hope that when they take UC down, you go along. I'll be watching and celebrating that day. You are the worst pumper of the bunch, and you still cant prove a damn thing. Your brain must be mush.

Now, if you care to answer this with a post or a PR that is not two years old, or maybe get your bedmate UC to put out a NEW PR, I just might believe a couple words you say. Until then you are nothing more than a parrot repeating words from other people's mouths from another board.

And all of that is BS, they cant PROVE anything either. So have a nice nite, hang in there for 21 days or so, and then blow your brains out when you find out how UC has taken you.

Of course, in keeping with the pure legality of the boards, THIS IS ALL IMHO.

And ROFL
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Neil Levine testimony at hearing:

"Q. How did you first hear of CMKM Diamonds?

A. I think we heard of them around December of '04 when a -- we got a referral from a business -- a guy we did business with, and he said the company would be looking to hire an auditor. Q. Who was that person?

A. Mr. John Edwards."


Who is John Edwards?

First witness, Neil Levine, CPA. January 10th 2005 he was hired to audit and he has not gotten any papers to perform the audit. John Edwards, a friend of Levine was the one who got Neil and CMKX together. Neil said the company wanted to file the reports so they could go to a higher exchange.


And what does Edwards do? Owns CRWN, one of the largest shorters of CMKX.


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9. COMMITMENTS AND CONTINGENT LIABILITIES
The Company has entered into arrangements with organizations, including clearing brokers, which provide for indemnification against losses, costs, claims and liabilities arising from the performance of their obligations under our agreement, except for gross negligence or bad faith. The Company believes the likelihood of a claim being made, the adverse outcome of which, individually or in the aggregate, that can be predicted with any reasonable certainty, could have a material adverse effect on the Company’s business, financial condition and operating results, is remote.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/913781/000119312504213877/d10q.htm


Oh Yeah! What arrangements?


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10. CAPITAL STOCK
During the three months ended October 31, 2004, the Company issued in privately negotiated transactions 4,824,244 shares of Company common stock not registered under the Securities Act for net cash proceeds of $1,525,000. Shares totaling 4,748,486 were issued to unaffiliated accredited investors and shares totaling 75,758 were issued to an executive officer of the Company.

During the nine months ended October 31, 2004, the Company issued in privately negotiated transactions 7,031,632 shares of Company common stock not registered under the Securities Act for gross cash proceeds of $3,561,101. Placement fees totaling $35,180 were paid to two placement agents in connection with this share issuance. Shares totaling 6,302,086 were issued to unaffiliated accredited investors and shares totaling 729,546 were issued to executive officers, or family members of executive officers.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/913781/000119312504213877/d10q.htm


Oh Yeah! What the person’s name?


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Financing Activities
The cash inflow from financing activities in fiscal 2004 was due to a combination of seven common stock private placements totaling $4,995,725, two cash contributions to equity totaling $1,830,000, a sale of assets totaling $980,000 and option exercises totaling $448,698. The first private placement commenced in February 2003 and raised $340,000 through the issuance of 377,776 shares to employees. The second private placement commenced in March 2003 and raised $293,150 through the issuance of 205,000 shares to employees. The third private placement commenced in March 2003 and raised $2,419,050 through the issuance of 1,612,161 shares to employees, a director and a private investor. The fourth private placement commenced in October 2003 and raised $100,000 through the issuance of 28,986 shares to an employee. The fifth private placement commenced in November 2003 and raised $811,650 through the issuance of 348,347 shares to employees and directors. The sixth private placement commenced in November 2003 and raised $110,000 through the issuance of 50,000 shares and 5,000 warrants to a private investor. The seventh private placement commenced in December 2003 and raised $921,875 through the issuance of 526,786 shares to current and former employees, plus a private investor. The Company took possession of municipal bonds from J.S.A. Investments LLC that were subsequently liquidated into cash of $1,700,000 on October 17, 2003. In May 2003, the Company completed a transaction with Martin H. Meyerson, the Company’s former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, totaling $1,350,000, whereby he made a $130,000 cash contribution to equity, he purchased $980,000 of assets and he reimbursed the Company for $240,000 of expenditures related to certain regulatory matters.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318309/000119312505137505/d10k.htm


Oh Yeah! Who’s the Private Investor?


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Hey!

When did JOHN EDWARDS purchase more than 10% of Crown Financial Holdings, Inc. [ CFGI ]

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318309/000110465905032183/xslF345X02/a3.xml

Gee Whiz?

JOHN EDWARDS owns 6,758,000 Preferred Shares.

That equals 25.7% of the Outstanding Preferred Shares of Crown Financial Holdings, Inc.


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What’s this?

RISSINGTON INVESTMENTS?

Why would JOHN EDWARDS transfer money to the Republic of China?

Hey! RESSINGTON INVESTMENTS owns 3,548,000 Preferred Shares.

That equals 13.5% of the Outstanding Preferred Shares of Crown Financial Holdings, Inc.


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What’s this one?

MINING FEASABILITY CAPITAL CORPORATION?

MINING FEASABILITY CAPITAL CORPORATION owns 3,210,000 Preferred Shares.

That equals 12.2% of the Outstanding Preferred Shares of Crown Financial Holdings, Inc.


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http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318309/000110465905032187/a05-12132_1sc13d.htm

In March and April 2005, Mr. Edwards through the Trust and MFCC made a series of purchases of CFGI Series A Convertible Preferred Stock (“Preferred Stock”) in a private placement. The purchase price of each share of the Preferred Stock was $148.00. Mr. Edwards is the sole beneficiary of the Trust and the sole stockholder of MFCC. The purchases of the Preferred Stock were financed directly or indirectly from the personal assets of Mr. Edwards.


What Percentage?

(25.7%) + (13.5%) + (12.2%) = 51.4% of the Preferred Shares


How many shares?

(6,758,000) + (3,548,000) + (3,210,000) = 13,516,000 Shares.


What did the shares cost?

(13,516,000 Shares) x ($148.00 per shares) = $2,000,368,000.00


WOW!

JOHN EDWARDS is worth over $2 Billion Dollars?
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
LEGAL: Posting crap again, SCAM plain and simple

CMKX= SCAM

Legal you are lacking creditability with this CMKX Crap. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Yeah, those numbers are correct. That's the amount we shareholders have been ripped off of.
UC sure has a nice house, doesnt he??

Legal, you're still braindead, IMO
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Now you see Ric, what Pedro did in that last post, is DD.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
Now you see Ric, what Pedro did in that last post, is DD.

SCAM, just a plain and simple scam [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
DD stands for Due Diligence, not Dumb Dogcrap.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
Ric, what does the lack of holes drilled prior to 2003 have to do with the number of holes that have been drilled since, by us and our JV's? You may do DD, but you see, it has to be applicable to be diligent.

So what you are saying, Ric, is that you have no idea how many holes were punched by our JVs. And therefore you have no idea how many holes have been dug, how many samples have been assayed, or what the value of CMKX and partners may total.
 
Posted by will on :
 
"They know about the justice department and CIA involvement in CMKX for some time. They know that below the surface it is a sting to capture a whole bunch of "shorties". And they know that is why the plays have been in secret, and why this whole SEC thing is just part of the sting and the resulting settlement agreement."

Still with this nonsense. LOL

Hey noah, you never showed me anyone predicting revocation was part of the "Master Plan" before the SEC filed charges and suspended trading. Why, no one did? You guys predict after the fact.

When will you give it up and admit defeat?

I think ed had a real good idea for you too, you should consider doing the right thing after all the people you have injured with your pumping of this pos.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Yeah, those numbers are correct. That's the amount we shareholders have been ripped off of.
UC sure has a nice house, doesnt he??

Legal, you're still braindead, IMO

UC will soon reside in a bigger house, that is if they can extradite him from SA [Big Grin] He will need cellmates but maybe his faithful can help him out with that problem [Big Grin]
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Okay, legal, how many holes did our JVs drill?
And where is the PR or proof that it was done?

Put up or shut up.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
LEGAL: Posting crap again, SCAM plain and simple

CMKX= SCAM

Legal you are lacking creditability with this CMKX Crap. [Big Grin]

Once again your intelligent posts continue to prove my point about the brain capacity of the average neg on this board.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Legal, answer me you clown....WHERE IS YOUR PROOF ??????
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
LEGAL: Posting crap again, SCAM plain and simple

CMKX= SCAM

Legal you are lacking creditability with this CMKX Crap. [Big Grin]

Once again your intelligent posts continue to prove my point about the brain capacity of the average neg on this board.
At least we have a brain capacity, that is more than I can say for you morons who continue to pump the crap out of this scam. At least we can see the writing on the wall,and it spells SCAM and while you see the writing on the wall you see "Push The Scam"

IMO you are right up there with Ebbers and Lay and the rest of the crooks in the market place. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Legal, answer me you clown....WHERE IS YOUR PROOF ??????

The only proof he has is a big red nose, or should I say a big brown Urban nose [Big Grin]
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Okay, legal, how many holes did our JVs drill?
And where is the PR or proof that it was done?

Put up or shut up.

Like I told Ric, I'm not going to do your DD for you.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Notice he never answers straight questions unless he can bend somebody else's post?

You dont have any proof, do ya Legal?

That's because there ISNT ANY !!!!
No holes were drilled....There are no diamonds....The shed is EMPTY !!!!!
 
Posted by will on :
 
"So what you are saying, Ric, is that you have no idea how many holes were punched by our JVs. And therefore you have no idea how many holes have been dug, how many samples have been assayed, or what the value of CMKX and partners may total."

....but you do have knowledge of what you accuse Ric of not knowing? Show us.
....show us proof of the NSS while your at too.
....show us proof of a sting operation with CIA involvement too.
....just show us anything, like Dr D was begging Urban to do. Please talk us Daddy Urban, we're lost little souls that are running out of theories and time. 8K us some vague inuendo so that we can make up a new fairytale to give to noah.
noah, the only thing sort 3 trillion anything is your brain, short 3 trillion brain cell, you owe brain cells.
Seriously noah, please consider doing the right thing.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Legal, you are so full of **** your eyes must be brown.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
There is no DD proving any of this crap.
It's a scam, as will be shown in 20 days when this POS is put to bed for all time.

No sense appealing, that will be turned down too.

It's DEAD !!!!!
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Okay, legal, how many holes did our JVs drill?
And where is the PR or proof that it was done?

Put up or shut up.

Like I told Ric, I'm not going to do your DD for you.
Do the DD....Do the DD....Do the DD....hahahha

There is no DD on this....no drilling has taken place since they found two diamond chips....you cant look up what doesnt exist @!@@@@@@#####333
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
I'm off to watch TV, my dad always told me to never match wits with a defenseless person.

Nite all.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Did he not add fool to that too, ed?

quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
I'm off to watch TV, my dad always told me to never match wits with a defenseless person.

Nite all.


 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Well, from hearing CMKX is 36 million in Debt. Sounds like a huge valuation. But the fact remains that you have no clue either and making up number won't make a difference. Scams trading shares between each other want make a difference. Diluting SGGM by 200 billion shares and still using there pps from there current share structure is false. Assuming that what someone else is doing or has done isn't DD either. That guys post is nothing but assumptions. Using numbers from one source and trying to fit the circle throught the square hole somewhere else. That is not DD. Its making up chit to make your pipe dreams sound reasonable. None of it is facts, like if UC actually bought and sold Jade and other gems twice with no records of where the cash went or the gems. The only facts we have for sure is that UC sold 703 billion shares and making everyone else guess where the money went.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
We do have one SOLID fact....nobody can dispute it....CMKX is revoked.

Maybe just initially, but it IS REVOKED>

nite
 
Posted by will on :
 
Just to remind you noah:

From your own mouth, noah:
"there you go assuming again. You don't know what the company is doing. You are only seeing what you want to see, or what supports your contentions."
That's exactly what you do, and have been doing for over a year.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Interesting what you see when you turn over a rock.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
Interesting what you see when you turn over a rock.

You looking in the mirror again [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
Interesting what you see when you turn over a rock.

Interesting, Legal you need to drill (make holes) to find diamonds not just turn over rocks. Geez now we know why it's a scam, you guys just thought that you had to turn over rocks and there would be diamonds [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
legal: "If this company is a scam and doesn't have the goods, why would Urban invite the Shareholders Group Attorney Bill Frizzell on a trip to Ecuador and Canada,in a few days, to show him the "lack" of anything good? That wouldn't be a real bright idea to show empty holes and miniscule diamond samplings to the guy who might be sueing you soon."
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Not a bright idea? Hell, only you faithful ever thought Urban was particularly bright! Had he been the least bit bright, he would not have had to take the 5th among a long list of other really stupid things he has either done or not done.

The guy who might be suing him soon? Keep slapping yourself legal! Wasn't it one of the conditions of Phase 2 (for which you sent another wasted $25) that the CMKX or it's principals not be defendants in a class action suit?

The latter is really where you fools should have concentrated in the first place and still should do so. Most of you faithful show no more intelligence than does Urban Casavant. You all belong in his camp eating his "grub"! And, "grubs" are about the only thing you fools are going to get out of those claims. Fact is, though, Urban is using them as bait and you faithful cult members are the "suckers" and the "shills"!
 
Posted by will on :
 
"shill" Excellent word, Wallace.

1. pretended customer or gambler: an accomplice who pretends to be an interested customer or gambler in order to lure others into buying or gambling

2. self-interested promoter: somebody who promotes somebody else or makes a sales pitch for something for reasons of self-interest
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
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I ain't afeared. But sorta worried.

In 2000 I had $126,000 in my 401K, if CMKX fails I am down to $1000. Many people have lost a lot, but I must be one of the worse.
I have lost so much that I may now change my name to:

Jimytwo
 
Posted by will on :
 
try Jimyzero ! LOL
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well i see a lot of frustration has been dumped today. was it 703 billion bits of frustration worth? or will the dumping continue???...lol Legal, i live about 1 1/2 miles from an indian reservation. on that reservation is 1 tribe, 1 chief, 1 tribal council with about 10 members. in fact in my state there are a large number of reservations all have 1 tribe. the reservation by the claims more then likely also has 1 tribe. differant tribes do not live together. show me proof there are 72 tribes on 1 reservation. fact is the claim closest to the reservation just made a deal with the cree nation there & it wasn't cmkx. look at the pb32 for the pr. it was posted within the last few days & it did include going on indian land. now in a prison i'd say with guards & employees 360 sounds about right. UC wanting to be the big man also sounds about right. also 29 companies remember, make something up for that too ok?
 
Posted by will on :
 
$126,000 if CMKX fails I am down to $1000.

There was another claimed to $100,000 "invested", and the other goof whose wife grabbed the mic took it in the shorts for $45,000. Between these three nit-wits there's $270,000.
What the heck, jimmy zero, I'd be a little concerend myself. Better plan on working another 25 yrs to rebuild that 401K. Oh, you're in your 50's now, too bad, you'll be dead before you recover your 401K.

OH! I forgot, buy more jimmyboy
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
legal...i just found out where you got that 72 tribe chit...ACCA????? this jackazz is saying, today mind you, that by the 18th anyone with 5 to 10 million shares or more will be rich by the 18th...lol. ya think you can come up with a less creditable opinion there legal???
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Hey, will!

Just for a bit of humor, wonder if you remember the following.....you damn turncoat:

One of will's posts back in Aug., 2004:

Anyone ever see this? I'm sure some of the people here have. CLSI was a hot pick of Purl Girls a long time ago, so I am sure some of you have read it. It did well since she featured it.
OOPS! Forgot to give the link:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040726/265647_1.html

Might want to point this out to Wallace!

[This message has been edited by will (edited August 09, 2004).]

My tolerant response:

Will,
I am and have been aware of that lawsuit. If you are suggesting I am a basher, I suggest you need a new mental attitude.
In addition, there is not one item involved in that complaint with which I need to concern myself.
Please take your concerns elsewhere.
Thank you.

will's retort:
Well, I wouldn't be so sure of that. Personally I don't care if you bash or pump, it is up to you. I read most posts, take what I want, leave what I don't want. The one thing I did find consistent between you and the case is that bashing CMKX seems like a hobby to you. Maybe one of your friends here will let Melvin know about your activity and this case, and attempt to cause you some discomfort.

My not so tolerant response (edidted):
You can STUFF IT along with your fellow CMKX CULT pumpers!
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LMAO, will! How times do change, huh? Much to my credit, at least I was able to enlighten you! Now you claim to be my friend????? Consider yourself lucky I didn't have a member of my wife's family visit you and shove one of those fork lifts right up your you know where.
 
Posted by will on :
 
bill, is that the same Accadickhead mentioned below:

quote:
Originally posted by will:
That is worth copying and pasting, Ric:

Did you lose a significant amount of money in your CMKX "investment"?

Are you really pissed off that you fell for the CMKX hype?

Do you think Urban Casavant's conduct during this promotion rises to the level of criminal behavior?

Do you want to nail his fat ass, along with his co-conspirators?

Do you want Dr. Diamonds, Green Baron, Willy Wizard, Sterling, Judy Cline, Accadacca, Carquest, Topogigo, and Jay Adobe to have their day in court?

Are you disgusted with the assclown circus being staged by Frizzell and Martin, and the total lack of results and financial accountability of their efforts?

We are, and we want to do something about it. We want to sue the b*stards.

No, this is not some lame call for a class action suit, where an attorney is the only one to gain. This is an attempt to organize a group of shareholders with significant losses, hire an attorney, and go after the circle of scam companies, their CEO's personal assets, and individuals who we believe are the paid promoters of this pump and dump.

This site is under construction. It will be fully interactive by July 5. Interested? Learn more.


 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
Legal, here is you main info train posting & what PB32 thinks of him. in fact the entire thread feels the same way about this jackazz


Topic: LOL..Acca says we will be rich on the 18th! (Read 169 times)
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LOL..Acca says we will be rich on the 18th!
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Anyone else listening to Willy's paltalk room? Acca was saying that anyone with 5-10 million shares of CMKX will be very happy on the 18th, says that very big news will be coming out that day.

What is wrong with this guy? I could never lie as much as that guy does. Its like he believes his own lies!
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
legal...i just found out where you got that 72 tribe chit...ACCA????? this jackazz is saying, today mind you, that by the 18th anyone with 5 to 10 million shares or more will be rich by the 18th...lol. ya think you can come up with a less creditable opinion there legal???

Bill,

Notice legal did not post a site or proof? Just posted redundant BS!
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
yep...thats him Will
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i knew there would be no proof Wallace but i didn't know where he got that chit. finding out it was this ACCA jackazz seriously puts in question legal's current mental health. the above thread has a few ppl posting the desire to take ACCA out to the woodshed & not bring him back...lol
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
"finding out it was this ACCA jackazz seriously puts in question legal's current mental health."

I know you didn't just recently find that out to be a fact!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, my good friend, Wallace, I humbly apologize for my exuberant ignorance. However, I am proud to say I am flexible and intelligent enough to recognze, correct, errors in judgement, and hopefully avoid making like errors again. When the preponderance of evidence leads you to revaluate your opinions and beliefs, you have little choice but to change your opinions and beliefs in light of these facts. Unless of course, you're a horse's ass like our good friend, noah.
Please don't send the bone crackers out. I like the way my nose looks now.

Hey Wallace, can I get away with saying I was sun crazed?

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Hey, will!

Just for a bit of humor, wonder if you remember the following.....you damn turncoat:

One of will's posts back in Aug., 2004:

Anyone ever see this? I'm sure some of the people here have. CLSI was a hot pick of Purl Girls a long time ago, so I am sure some of you have read it. It did well since she featured it.
OOPS! Forgot to give the link:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040726/265647_1.html

Might want to point this out to Wallace!

[This message has been edited by will (edited August 09, 2004).]

My tolerant response:

Will,
I am and have been aware of that lawsuit. If you are suggesting I am a basher, I suggest you need a new mental attitude.
In addition, there is not one item involved in that complaint with which I need to concern myself.
Please take your concerns elsewhere.
Thank you.

will's retort:
Well, I wouldn't be so sure of that. Personally I don't care if you bash or pump, it is up to you. I read most posts, take what I want, leave what I don't want. The one thing I did find consistent between you and the case is that bashing CMKX seems like a hobby to you. Maybe one of your friends here will let Melvin know about your activity and this case, and attempt to cause you some discomfort.

My not so tolerant response (edidted):
You can STUFF IT along with your fellow CMKX CULT pumpers!
--------------------

LMAO, will! How times do change, huh? Much to my credit, at least I was able to enlighten you! Now you claim to be my friend????? Consider yourself lucky I didn't have a member of my wife's family visit you and shove one of those fork lifts right up your you know where.


 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
will,

Just thought a few of us might enjoy seeing how nicely you have changed! Would you like to see some of Upside's old posts to me? I think he's another friend of mine too.

PS: By the way, I do consider you a very good friend.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Acca. roflmao

This is the guy that said Citi Group was buying us out. It had the rumor going so bad the Citi actually had to put out a PR saying that it wasn't true that they had nothing to do with CMKX. Acca then said that the PR was fake and he personally called Citi had forced them to take it off, if they didn't he would personally have people fired from there. The PR is still on Citi's website, lol. He also screamed there was no NSS up till this point. It was a buyout. Once all his buyout theories failed, he finally jumped on the NSS bandwagon were now it would be 54 cent settlement with all the shorters by Friday, Friday comes, no sorry Monday, Monday comes, sorry its delayed one of the hedge hogs is holding out on price but UC won't budge. Theres a settlement by the end of the week for sure, and so on and so on.

This guy thrives on attention. He is a nut case. Even the stupid koolaid drinkers of RB have written him off as a nut case.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
current cmkx bid/ask is .00001/.00003
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, my good friend UpMan might not be so generous and apologize to you. You might stirr the pot and rile him again.
He's suffering a little depression I think, he's disenchanted with the unbelievable position the faithful have taken and posted here. Maybe he could use a wake up call to get him fired up and interested again.
DO IT ! LOL
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i was just told to read 50K posts about the cree nation...i think i'll pass...lol
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
We really could have made some $$$$s by shorting this CMKX sucker, huh?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well i'm off to relax & sleep soon. another fun day over. at least no FBI & bomb squads today...lol things are looking up...lol
 
Posted by will on :
 
.00001 / .00003 Hey noah, buy more, please. Show us you're not afraid, prove you love UC, buy more, pal.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Hey, were else can you sell your 1 million shares for 10 bucks.

So Willy Wonkas 900 million shares are now worth 9,000 dollars. I guess he can retire from being a car salesman now. lol

He should have cashed in his free pumpers shares when he had the chance. Hopefully he buys another billion shares from his commission from ripping off people at the car lot.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Come to think of it, I haven't seen any repost of naoh's from Sterling. Is Sterling still alive and pumping?
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Legal, you can get a second mortgage on your house and for only $30,000 you can buy 1 billion shares of CMKX. Better rush out tomorrow and start the paperwork.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Wallace #1:
quote:
Would you like to see some of Upside's old posts to me? I think he's another friend of mine too.
He is.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Over on pb32 they are taking a poll on how much people have invested in CMKX and one says 200,000 dollar. What a moron. In a non reporting pinksheet. I don't care how much you believe, if you put 200 thousand in a pink you deserve what you get.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, Ric, they all will be claiming fantastic amounts now in their effort to be the biggest loser and gain the most sympathey. I don't believe anything they have said in the past year, and certainly don't believe their lying asses now when they tell everyone how much they have invested. Whatever the amount though, I'm happy for them.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Your right there Will. I really have seen today how drawn in they are. You know, I have used the word cult in the past mainly in jest. But seeing this revocation and the response to it, it really is a cult. These people would make Jim Jones proud.

They seem to be blocking out facts brought out in the hearing. I don't know if they think people lied in court or they just think it was an conspiracy but its scary either way. They have made up theories for so long they actually think its real.

And if you question them then its we did the DD, look it up yourselves. They refuse to even see there own lies for what they are. For this, I hope the pumpers of this that conned and brainwashed the masses get what is coming to them. Preferably real soon.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Posted by Wallace #1:
quote:
Would you like to see some of Upside's old posts to me? I think he's another friend of mine too.
He is.
I know that!! Tried to go back a find a few, but too much trouble. Would rather get will torqued up anyway.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
legal...i just found out where you got that 72 tribe chit...ACCA????? this jackazz is saying, today mind you, that by the 18th anyone with 5 to 10 million shares or more will be rich by the 18th...lol. ya think you can come up with a less creditable opinion there legal???

Actually bill, I got my information from the first nations website: http://www.sicc.sk.ca/bands/ If you would care to check the number of tribes (Oh wait you guys don't do that, you just assume)simply open each of the councils links and count.

Acca got his information from Jay_Adobe posts over at RB about a week ago.

And I don't believe anything Acca says but I always check his posts and here is why.

Acca's real name is Roger J Stelma from Grand Rapids MI. He has one brother there who is a judge, one who is the sheriff, but he also has a little brother Kyle Stelma.

Kyle is a graduate of West Point and currently serves on the board of directors of the WP "GradPac", the political action arm of those graduates, and a very powerful group as you can imagine.

Kyle served some time with CitiBank (a company that plays into most of his rumors) and is curretntly with Booz Allen Hamilton, a consultant not only to Citi, but also to the government. So, yes, he could know more about CMKX than many, but personally I will wait and see if he does. (Oh, BTW, guys, that's another example of DD.)
 
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Poll Poll Question: How much money have you invested in CMKX ($US)
$1-$4,999 (20 votes, 40.8%)
$5,000-$9,999 (4 votes, 8.1%)
$10,000-$14,999 (5 votes, 10.2%)
$15,000-$19,999 (5 votes, 10.2%)
$20,000-$29,999 (6 votes, 12.2%)
$30,000-$39,999 (2 votes, 4%)
$40,000-$49,999 (3 votes, 6.1%)
$50,000-$74,999 (1 vote, 2%)
$75,000-$99,999 (1 vote, 2%)
$100,000-$199,999 (1 vote, 2%)
$200,000+ (1 vote, 2%)
Total Votes: 49
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Reminds me so much of the Salem Witch Hunts. Convinced themselves in the name of God or religion and burned innocent people alive. Problem is, they were the ones who were 100% wrong. They were the liars. They were the fools. They were the perpetrators. Just kept dunking them (innocents) until they confessed or drowned too.

Basically the same with CMKX. In this case, it's not a witch hunt, but a "stock hunt". And, as before, innocents have been hurt.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
Your right there Will. I really have seen today how drawn in they are. You know, I have used the word cult in the past mainly in jest. But seeing this revocation and the response to it, it really is a cult. These people would make Jim Jones proud.

They seem to be blocking out facts brought out in the hearing. I don't know if they think people lied in court or they just think it was an conspiracy but its scary either way. They have made up theories for so long they actually think its real.

And if you question them then its we did the DD, look it up yourselves. They refuse to even see there own lies for what they are. For this, I hope the pumpers of this that conned and brainwashed the masses get what is coming to them. Preferably real soon.

Ric if you think that my posting is out of line, I will challenge you right now to file a complaint with the SEC on me. You know my name, and approximately where I live. I will be happy to provide you (by private message) with my phone number to give them.

So you and your "buds" decide if you want the SEC probing around this board. The challenge is there so as someone stated earlier, "Put up or shut up."
 
Posted by will on :
 
Do the right thing, noah. You owe it to all the people you lied to and mislead. Because of you, and people like you these people are facing ruination. You might not have much in your filthy little life, but some of these people you helped fleece had a substantial amount saved from their hard work, and you led them to believe that heir money was safe.
I know you're not man enough to aopolgize for causing their hardship.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
And guess what Legal not only does Acca (Roger) live in Grand Rapids here is his complete address. Thats called DD. I know the facts because I do my research.

ROGER J STELMA born Mar 1965 and living at xxxx WILLOW DR NE GRAND RAPIDS MI

(616) 887-xxxx

I thought I should xxxx out the complete parts.

LOL..Acca says we will be rich on the 18th!
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Anyone else listening to Willy's paltalk room? Acca was saying that anyone with 5-10 million shares of CMKX will be very happy on the 18th, says that very big news will be coming out that day.

What is wrong with this guy? I could never lie as much as that guy does. Its like he believes his own lies!

[ July 13, 2005, 22:57: Message edited by: Ric ]
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I think your one of the brainwashed Legal. I have never included you in the serious pumpers or paid pumpers. But I do believe you need some help and hope you get it. I really wish you would see the light and get out with some of your money. I know you won't but it is a wish. I like debating you myself. Hey, I even said hi to you on your site and didn't even post one negative post.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
"Ric if you think that my posting is out of line, I will challenge you right now to file a complaint with the SEC on me. You know my name, and approximately where I live. I will be happy to provide you (by private message) with my phone number to give them."
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legal,

The time is not exactly right for that action. It just might be worthwhile pursuing some time in the future though.

Remember, that site that "will" posted about basher suits. Well, I am sure it also created a precedent for lawsuits against avid, misleading pumpers as well. SEC, or otherwise, it is certainly a possibility. Therefore, you would be most wise to consider the content and nature of your posts by showing a more objective position. Just as much, if not more, damage can be done by pumpers as can be perpetrated by bashers. Pumpers go after the innocent.

PS: legal, that time IS getting very close for UC and cohorts. They are in the first line-up.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, noah, I don't like you, and won't pretend I do. I have never thought you to be a paid pumper either. Just a second echelon soldier doing the bidding of your worshiped gurus. In my book that makes you worse than them because you're a deseased carrier of lies and inuendo. Without you to spread the rummors, theories, and nonsense these gurus would have dried up and gone away long ago. Your linkage with Christianity is another thing I dislike about you. God, never bought CMKX or any other stock, it's not ordained or blessed. There is no linkage between the two, yet you prey on other Christian and mislead them with promises of wealth to do some good works. You're just the most foolish person I have ever seen, and I do pray that you get your just deserts. I know I can't meet out your justice, but hopefully the CMKX sheriff will visit your account, and perhaps some pissed off crazed person will blame you personally for sucking them into this abyss, and hopefully dispense some of his justice on your ass. At this juncture I would be very careful who I gave my name, address, and phone number to , if I were you.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Wallace <---- Pumpers go after the innocent.


That is what I have been trying to say for a long time. If a basher bashes a good stock what really happens to it. A short term drop in pps maybe. If its a good stock though it will come back.

But a pumper that pumps a bad stock gets the innocent involved and they lose real money. They are the low lives on the message boards. Trying to pump up a stock so they can get out with a profit while getting others to hold the bag. Thats why the SEC argued and case law backed it up that by revoking a stock it protects future shareholders. Present shareholders are already harmed and the only way they can get out is harming others.

Pumpers of a bad stock are the worse of the worst.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Ric if the SEC didn't want new shareholders to keep buying this stock why didn't they go along with the company offer to halt the stock? I'll give you the answer ahead of time. They need to give their buddies time to cover the NS.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
Ric if the SEC didn't want new shareholders to keep buying this stock why didn't they go along with the company offer to halt the stock? I'll give you the answer ahead of time. They need to give their buddies time to cover the NS.

No, legal!!! You of all people should understand the meaning of "due process"! That is why it is not yet halted.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Is CMKX the only stock that was allowed to keep trading during the 21 day appeal period, or does it apply to ALL stocks that find themselves in this situation. Ooops, probably is the accepted and customary practice of this process, but I forgot CMKX is above accepted and customary practices.
Has nothing to do with: " They need to give their buddies time to cover the NS."

"You are only seeing what you want to see, or what supports your contentions."
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Speaking of pumpers in a bad stock. ICAN is getting ridiculous. They diluted 6 billion shares during the last run and after the free fall in pps from the pump and dump the company did a buyback, roflmao, of 600 million share after it tanked. And now they want a pat on the back for doing the buyback. Now they announced another 500 million shares, wonder how many shares they will have to dilute to buy those back.

What is bad about this is people think this is a good thing and the stock is going to run again. Even after the lies on the spin-off to a otcbb. Man this company is playing the standard P&D playbook and the sheep are following as they should. I guess you need these suckers to make money in the market.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
Ric if the SEC didn't want new shareholders to keep buying this stock why didn't they go along with the company offer to halt the stock? I'll give you the answer ahead of time. They need to give their buddies time to cover the NS.

No, legal!!! You of all people should understand the meaning of "due process"! That is why it is not yet halted.
Wallace I think you need to read my post again. The company made an offer to halt the stock while they finished the audit. The SEC apparently prefers to let it go on selling. Has nothing to do with "due process".
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I seen the other day that someone put ricpick in his place on his new pick, can't remember which it was, it started with I but not ICAN. He asked him if he got paid to pump these scams or was he just that bad of a stock picker that he always gets involved with them. He didn't respond to him. It was real funny though. But like PRRM, ICAN was ricpick's newest P&D. He still trying to keep people in it with hope. Even though most bagholders have lost there buttz in it.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Legal, it was because the SEC is feed up with CMKX and the scam they ran. They want them revoked. They aren't interested in a deal now unless they want to drop any appeal and accept the revocation. But the 21 days is procedure and they can't change that. I am sure they wish they could with this one.
 
Posted by will on :
 
...but Ric, it's CMKX the super penny, new law has to be written for them. Don't you know CMKX is not a normal company? It has privileges, exceptions, and powers never given to any company in the history of capitalism.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I didn't use pseudonyms when I posted over there and I don't think anyone here would care to let everyone know its them. I use rics1997 on every board including this one until the name got messed up. But like a lot of people, I read several boards. I do detailed research and know my facts before i post. Of course everyone ignored me over there. They hate having a opposite point of view. My way or the highway.


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Just thought I would let everyone know that the bashers from Allstocks are paying us regular visits here under other pseudonyms. Be ready to hear from them. They are a particularly hateful breed over there. Here is one of their posts from tonight. Thought I'd share with you all.


"Well, noah, I don't like you, and won't pretend I do. I have never thought you to be a paid pumper either. Just a second echelon soldier doing the bidding of your worshiped gurus. In my book that makes you worse than them because you're a deseased carrier of lies and inuendo. Without you to spread the rummors, theories, and nonsense these gurus would have dried up and gone away long ago. Your linkage with Christianity is another thing I dislike about you. God, never bought CMKX or any other stock, it's not ordained or blessed. There is no linkage between the two, yet you prey on other Christian and mislead them with promises of wealth to do some good works. You're just the most foolish person I have ever seen, and I do pray that you get your just deserts. I know I can't meet out your justice, but hopefully the CMKX sheriff will visit your account, and perhaps some pissed off crazed person will blame you personally for sucking them into this abyss, and hopefully dispense some of his justice on your ass. At this juncture I would be very careful who I gave my name, address, and phone number to , if I were you. "
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Do the right thing, noah. You owe it to all the people you lied to and mislead. Because of you, and people like you these people are facing ruination. You might not have much in your filthy little life, but some of these people you helped fleece had a substantial amount saved from their hard work, and you led them to believe that heir money was safe.
I know you're not man enough to aopolgize for causing their hardship.

Maybe Legal should follow the posting name of Debbi (What Would J Do Through Me). I am sure that J would not con people and scam them of their hard earned money. It is obvious that the guilt has not set in yet, if it were me I could not sleep at night knowing that I helped to scam people.

Legal it's not all about reporting you to the SEC, it's about asking you to be a decent human being and confess that you were wrong in leading these people to the blunder of CMKX.

I just feel that somewhere inside you, there is a concern that your wronged many with your pumping on this thread. I know that you are feeling guilty and cannot feel peace within yourself, the one thing that will help you is to tell these people that you were wrong and sorry that you have hurt them by leading them to buy CMKX.

It takes a big man to admit that he was wrong and I know that somewhere within you there is the knowledge that you mislead people, you will feel better after you make that public.

Now we can't make you do anything but you know that you have to do what is right Legal. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Have you considered the financial damage you may have done to people you "bashed" out of this stock. People who really needed the financial blessings that CMKX may provide them.

The point is that no one "knows" what the final story is on this stock. But we will. That will be time enough for apologies.
 
Posted by will on :
 
noah, noah , noah, believe me, I have never visited your CT board, nor do I ever intend to do so. I have been to one other board since I met allstocks, and that is dan-ces with bulls, if I go there once ever three months that's a lot. So, go back and tell your fellow Christions that I won''t be visiting there with my particularly hateful self. They are safe. I liked your choice of words too, "particularly hateful", you might have added "insensitively honest" though.
The Anti-Christ is perfectly happy to stay right here at allstocks, and not bother you Christians. However, if they would like to come visit me I would be more than happy to dispense what they would see as venom, hate, evil, but what everone else recognizes as insensitive honesty. Bring 'em back, invite them home. I'm not prejudice, I dislike all of you.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
Have you considered the financial damage you may have done to people you "bashed" out of this stock. People who really needed the financial blessings that CMKX may provide them.

The point is that no one "knows" what the final story is on this stock. But we will. That will be time enough for apologies.

You are sicker than I thought [Big Grin]

I have still have useless pieces of paper from CMKX. You see when I first started to invest I knew nothing about DD I just had blind faith in people like you (Noah aka Legal) and WWJDTM and yes I bought on your hype.

You Sir are low life and one thing for sure is that will never change, you are a bottom feeder and a dolphin you will never be, you feed on the newbies and breathe the air that Urban blows from the seat of his pants. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
"Wallace I think you need to read my post again. The company made an offer to halt the stock while they finished the audit. The SEC apparently prefers to let it go on selling. Has nothing to do with "due process"."
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Look it from a different point of view, legal. That was just a ruse to have the SEC bite on "finishing the audit". The judge has ruled and that ruling will become final....for both the SEC and for CMKX. It has to do with "due process" because that is what the Act apparently provides for when a company is revoked. It allows for the appeal process.

Even you have said you thought CMKX would be revoked. I would think that you at least thought that because of the facts at hand which proved CMKX violated SEC requirements. There were no other reasons to revoke. Those reasons were well brought out and documented by testimony.

Revocation is not a part of some ridiculous "Master Plan"! That is serious business and any company that gets revoked on the basis that CMKX did, should be punished beyond the revocation.

Legal, people have been seriously hurt!! Do you remember "tradingpenny"? She bought based upon the hype and even got her mother to buy. Both have lost money and savings because of that company and UC's actions/inactions. They are not the only ones.

Surely, you can see the many wrongs perpetrated on the public by UC et al. They are so basic it is unbelievable. How you or anyone begin to defend their actions is beyond comprehension. Show some real wisdom and go after the true source for what has happened to CMKX. Go after UC and cohorts.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
Have you considered the financial damage you may have done to people you "bashed" out of this stock. People who really needed the financial blessings that CMKX may provide them.

The point is that no one "knows" what the final story is on this stock. But we will. That will be time enough for apologies.

Since when has financial blessings come from the loss of their money, you are beginning to sound like Jimmy Jones, and look what they lost or would you consider that financial blessings. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
But will you apologize though legal??????

Because, as I said, I know this is a scam. If I wasn't 100% sure then I wouldn't say anything. But if the moon would bleed and the sun turn into water and I was wrong, I would surely apologize. But no worries here.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
noah (aka legal),

That was a shameful thing you did by posting will's comments on that forum. You couldn't just stop with the posting but had to mislead others into thinking will had been posting there under a different name as well.

Legal, I have neither seen nor met you. I picture you as a big, fat, dumb frog sitting on a lily pad, paddling your way around a smelly old swamp and croaking your fool head off that your's is the best damn lily pad in the whole swamp. It really is not. It's just that you cannot lift the fat up enough to get to a more appropriate lily pad.

I truly feel sorry for your soul.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Save your breath, guys. You can't appeal to this guy's sense of decency, he has none. He will not relent, he will not mitigate his position, and certainly he will not admit wrongfully hurting others, and definately he will never apologize. He beleives in a God, and I'm sure somewhere in the Bible there is a perscribe punishment for arrogance. Probably eternal damnation like most transgressions. One can only hope.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Good night, all.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Wallace, I have seen a photo of him when he was attending the SEC DC rally. Your mental picture of him is very close to what I saw in the photo. Replace the lilly pad with an elctric scooter, and you had him pictured perfectly.

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
noah (aka legal),

That was a shameful thing you did by posting will's comments on that forum. You couldn't just stop with the posting but had to mislead others into thinking will had been posting there under a different name as well.

Legal, I have neither seen nor met you. I picture you as a big, fat, dumb frog sitting on a lily pad, paddling your way around a smelly old swamp and croaking your fool head off that your's is the best damn lily pad in the whole swamp. It really is not. It's just that you cannot lift the fat up enough to get to a more appropriate lily pad.

I truly feel sorry for your soul.


 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Will,

Very interesting! The lily pad reference was really meant as an analogy to CMKX. Good night.
 
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I bought more today


Guess you can tell I am not a person to get into a game of 'chicken' with. Etrade sold some shares at .00003 and .00004 and I thought I have to buy at that price if they are selling there. So I sold one of the dogs in my portfolio and put in a limit order at .0001 and got filled for .00005. A minute later they raised it to .00006. Another poster at paltalk said .00002 to sell and .00008 to buy.

I plan to ask for certs when this trade settles.


Listening to Shells in Paltalk he said today was a great day for MM's to cover. They are no doubt shaking out shares.

Still expecting good things. IMOO-Debi
 
Posted by will on :
 
BUY! BUY! BUY!

...and on that note, I will take my particularly hateful self off to bed, good night.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
You know though, I have been nice over on that board yet they come over to this board and rate all of us with ones over and over. Good Christian attitude. They get quite mean when you disagree with them. And the Christian attitude when someone says hi, is to say hi back but not them. They can't be nice unless you buy cmkx and believe in it. I had a 5 rating before then. Not that its a big deal just stating there attitude.

I get probably 10-15 PM's and emails a day for me to help with research on stocks. I freely give out places for newbies to look up there own research on pink sheets and OTCBB's. I study TA and can read a chart pretty well. Thats what I do best. I have done my DD on this stock. I bet that I know more then the majority of the cult.

I have a serious problem with scams and pumpers. I think that pumpers scam innocent victims into these scams. People that shouldn't be in the market at least making self choices in the market. Because they can't understand the TA and FA and where to get it.

The sad thing about this stock is that certain gurus have made up theories and pass off rumors that these people take as fact and then call it dd. It is wrong and most of these passing off these rumors should be prosecuted or at least made to pay restitution for there crimes.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I consider myself a religous person. I do not claim to be perfect in anyway but also I know that using god isn't a good thing. I don't think this is right.

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another prophecy regarding stock market/this summer


Kim Clement Prophesies Regarding Investments at
Covenant Church, Dallas, TX"
May 22, 2005


"For the Spirit of God says, do you realize that there is a marked moment in time in the summer where there will be a divine transference of masses of amounts of money? Keep your eye on the gold. Keep your eye on that one substance. Also keep your eyes open for you shall see things changing with petroleum. You shall see things changing with something new that shall come forth. Invest into it, says the Spirit of the Lord. You'd better listen some of you investors. This is not petroleum. This is not oil. This is something else that is safer and God wants to share a secret tonight. Go and study it. I don't have the words. The Spirit of the Lord has hidden it from me. But He tells me there's something other than petroleum or gas or whatever you call it, oil -- that's coming forth that's gonna be used. Invest in it, for it will bring some of you millions of dollars within a 14 month period, says the Lord. It begins with an "e." That's all I've got. Now if anybody wants to become very rich, get ready because the stock market's gonna open up. NASDAQ is opening up. There are things opening up in the public places that God says I'm gonna pour out and give to you what rightfully belongs to you if you want it!"

by Kim Clement
www.kimclement.com
 
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...Rule 360: Operation.."Kill All"...

I've never been someone to post a "roll into" or "reverse" scenario because I don' think Mahue would have his final move this far out in the public.

But here it goes....what I think is possiable

Think about the hearing....There's a few things that CMKX just flat out seemed to not get right.

1) Roger Glenn...his one page completely countered the SEC's core argument of CMKX is operating in bad faith

2) Desemorue...our financials

They seemed to just kinda bumble through the hearings.Now that we have the "inital decision" to revoke,,,Frizzell jumps in and says....we can have the filings done well BEFORE the appeal process is over.And also,,,they fought with the wording for weeks.."wording"?...yeah,,ok.

Frizzell met with the SBC....they told him to get the media involved and they wanted to wait to make sure it was real.

If you approach the FBI with PROOF of lets say....2 trillion shares,what do you think they'll ask of you??

Being your asking them to go after who??
The SEC,DTC,MM's,Brokers,Hedgies..etc,etc.

They'd ask you if your worth anything...no point in starting internal wars over....nothing. Right?
They'd say...yeah,we'll get back to you.Thank you.

Do you REALLY think the FBI is NOT aware of NSS in general?

My thought is CMKX can by-pass a court battle,lock-in the judge,FBI,SEC,DTC,MM's,Brokers,Hedgies..etc.

Alot of posters have said "CMKX" is not focused.The SEC told CMKX it wasn't their fault if CMKX didn't call certain witness or submit certian eveidence that they knoweledge of for 2 months...aka,,,Glenn's letter.

She also said,,,any good attorney would realize this.

We know CMKX can't self impose a halt...pink.

What if the plan all along was to get her to issue that "initial decesion" for revokation??

This has now gave us the option of halting the company....

From Frizzells second update letter :
Rule 360 of the SEC Rules of Practice basically says the status of the parties (trading allowed) remains the same until an aggrieved party (CMKX) prosecutes its appeal.

Notice.... trading allowed..until..CMKX..APPEALS. Hmmmm

NOW,what would you have? Our filings WILL be done before the process is over and you can start releasing news.

What would that do?

Keep the judge from revoking a PUBLIC company that has it's filings & share structure(this is KEY) & intial valuation.

Forces the FBI (gives them reason)to act.
Eliminates a drawn out court battle.
Gets the media involved.
Senators are now fully behind you.
NO NEED to expose any politicians if you Could.Actually,they'd be the ones doing the investigating.
Elimnates the "to cert or not" debates.
Elimnates the need to issue anymore divies..(less scrutiny)
Fulfills Urban saying..if your in,you win.
Fulfills Frizzell calling for an open market cover through the brokers in his second to last motion.
Allows you to keep the name recognition....CMKX

Imo..."CIM" was a two-fold carrot.Locked in the crooks and kept us from selling with the thought of a "clean shell" in the wings as an option.

How many here DID NOT sell because of all this talk?
Well,,it's obviously not the...we want to be revoked and go straight to "CIM" because we just(lol) hired an auditor.

By "CMKX" keeping this focused only on a "filing" issue,,(per the SEC by the way),it's now that much easier to remain trading AND now have the NSS a real issue to recognize.

Being it's not what you know but what you can prove,this would still acomplish what the crooks do NOT WANT...public exposure...AND,,,we avoid the courts.

Why are we haveing our financials audited?...they don't have to be.Mgt can sign off on'em.
It's like everything else....from the overlooked important facts of the Goldack Survey,,to the TDEM,,,hiring of Glenn and Mahue to the geologists working with us now.

Reputaions and top notch everything across the boards.Who can dispute what these guys say in support of CMKX?

What will Mahue have done by taking this to "intial deceion"...besides NOT relying on the system to right itsself??..He'll have MADE everyone come to the company and deal with this.And...they'll make the moves that he wants/expects them too.

Playin BOTH sides of the fence....perfect Mahue imo.

And this good ole AMERICAN BOY will have stopped the thieves from robbin his country and will see 50,000+ shareholders put money BACK into the market.

You've killed every bird with one shot.

...Rule 360: Operation.."Kill All"...

All your problems gone in one shot.

Art of War comes to mind. LOL

Gltua!
Chris

Ps~ This is the nastiest,direct payback for the crooks I can think of
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
You got the fat part right Wallace. Don't get a lot of exercise any more. LOL
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Well, you all have had a great day of name calling and aspersion casting. Sad, you can't focus on the stock.
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
clement...that televangelist crackpot. He's in the same criminal league as Tilton...they use electric letter openers to pull checks so they can just throw away the letters....Religion doesn't belong in stock discussions at all. Tilton blesses Puffs tissue then orders you to send your last dollar to him. What's he going to do,? Wire Jesus the money.
God talked to Jones.... look where that got him.

I'd like to know, who is issuing cmkx stock...?? or is all the volume just churning the same existing??? stock?
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
last post for the night....parralle stock crap ex:
stock listed IBCL was sent up for investigation with sec & others around mid 2002. Information disappeared then as well. No new news about this company anywhere, but the stock still trading. I mean searches for just plain info...???
How and why does this go on? It may have changed names or something....
And again I ask...why didn't UC just reverse split the chit out of cmkx, then changed names again. Just like other pos operators who steal peoples money by reversing, then changing names and inc locations..........
S5
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
You guys must have posted all night....LOL.

1. Dont know where noah's board is, dont wanna know. But if I ever got there by mistake, I would be ed19363. I'm not ashamed of my posts.

2. There was an article on TV last night about the Wizard of Oz. New name for the cult: scarecrows: no brain.

3. I wish somebody had bashed me out of this stock before it reached .0001. Would have saved me a bunch of money.

4. Another day, another 39 cents after taxes, have a good one guys....
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
STOCKGATE TODAY

An online newspaper reporting the issues of Securities Fraud Regulation SHO – Threshold List implicates SEC in Malicious Activities – July 7, 2005

David Patch

St. George Metals Inc. (Pink Sheet: SGGM) had its stock trading halted last week by the Securities and Exchange Commission as step one in the SEC’s deregistration process. The SEC, on July 1, 2005, issued a news release stating that actions were being initiated to seek temporary or permanent revocation of the public registration of St. Georges Metals securities due to St. George Metals lack of up to date filings with the agency. The SEC news release claims this action is being undertaken for the protection of the investing public.

But then on July 7, 2005 the NASDAQ posting of the Regulation SHO threshold security list had a new issuer appear on the list. On that list is none other than St. George Metals. SGGM shows up as a company with excessive fails tallied in the Continuous Net Settlement (CNS) system of the Depository Trust Clearing Corporation (DTCC). The CNS report is the accounting records of settlement failures throughout the DTCC clearance and settlement system. The excessive fails now locked in place during a period when the stock is halted from trading.

To be listed on the Regulation SHO threshold security list there must be a minimum of 10,000 shares and 0.5% of the issued and outstanding shares available recorded in the CNS system in a failed settlement status. This level of trade settlement failures must also persist for a minimum period of 5 consecutive trade days before qualifying for the list. For SGGM, that means that from a period starting June 28, 2005 to present, the DTCC would have presented in their daily CNS report to the NASDAQ a failure level in SGGM that exceeded 0.5% of the issued and outstanding shares in the company. Sounds relatively simple.

Unfortunately there is far more to the story.

For starters, SGGM should never be on this list as one of the prerequisites for issuers to qualify for Regulation SHO is that the issuer maintains up to date filings with the SEC to properly calculate a 0.5% settlement failure threshold. The fact that SGGM is on the list questions the integrity of the accuracy of the list. If improper companies are listed, are others qualified left off? In December 2004 Bear Stearns identified a preliminary list containing 1000 companies primarily consisting of OTCBB and pink Sheet Stocks yet the official list published 3 weeks later only contained 100 such companies from the OTCBB and Pink Sheets.

Then there is the other similar type issuer who is on the SHO list who either should not be on there due to accurate filing status or, who stopped trading some time ago. Here again I reference GenesisIntermedia (GENI). GENI has been listed as a SHO qualifier for excessive fails for a period of 105 consecutive trade days. Yet, in those 105 trade days, not a single share in the company has traded. At this rate, GENI will be asked to pay rent to the NASDAQ for the space it is occupying on their website.

We asked the question once before and now it needs to be raised again – Is the SEC maliciously attacking small business issuers with settlement failure problems in an attempt to cover-up the abuses Wall Street perpetrated against the issuer and their investors? Serac Inc (SRCI), Eagletech (EATC), Cassavant Mining (CMKX), as well as many others believe that to be the case. Each has had investors proclaim abusive naked shorting and instead of a formal SEC investigation and report on the trade status in the securities, the SEC instead acted swiftly to deregister the listing.

Don’t take my word on this, look for yourself.

The SEC Actions are recorded in the SEC Digest and the Regulation SHO publications appear daily on each market center web site. The SEC’s actions to revoke company registrations have exceeded the number of enforcements for naked shorting abuses exponentially over this past year. The SEC even gave the industry a pardon on all abusive naked shorts [Grandfather clause in Regulation SHO] while they maliciously attacked the companies abused. The pardon was due to the concerns over the “large pre-existing fails in the system” as stated by James Brigagliano, SEC’s Asst. Director of Market Regulation.

So much for a Federal Agency chartered to protect the Investor, unless the investor in question is the secretive Hedge Funds Industry.

For more on this issue please visit the Host site at http://www.investigatethesec.com/.


*************.com EvergreenMarketingInc.com
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Has CMKX ever been on the SHO list?
 
Posted by will on :
 
No, but it is on the SEC's sh*t list.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
LOL
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
As I said before, investigatethesec is very biased. Whatever you think about the SEC it really doesn't matter. If these companies didn't break the rules like SGGM by not filing then the SEC couldn't revoke them. BUt all that hack webite does is attack. Not that the SEC shouldn't be forced to look at itself but they tend to make 2 + 2 = 5 when it comes to the SEC. The investigatethesec website is to the SEC as Noah is to CMKX. They will make up theories to make the SEC look worse then it is and Noah will make up theories to make CMKX better then it is.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Absolutely Ric, there's no room for BIAS on this board. LOL
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Isn't that true legal, lol.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Did we ever see any proof of all these holes that were drilled all over Canada?
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
ed, a little hint, check with Double K Excavation near Regina. Owner: Emmerson Koch
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Has CMKX ever been on the SHO list?

Actually, YES it was on the SHO list 1 time for about 3 days!

Not that any of that matters.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Scarecrow One from Wizard
Roger and Out
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Of course Ed, the proof is the cult says they did. What more proof do you need?

Now the company only officially say 15 holes where they found nothing except to diamond flakes. But the rest is top secret that can only be stated as fact by made up rumors. Can't have better proof then that.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
I'll even make it easy on you ed, here's
Double K's Phone number: (306) 693-0375
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Ooops that was Emmerson's personal number. Here's Double K: 306-763-9045
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
Legal, for all the hard times you have been given, I have to compliment you on your DD. Although you havn't let all the cats out of the bag, you seem to have done alot of DD.

The only problem is that UC is running the show, outside of that I think CMKX had a chance to live and grow.

Damnn UC!
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Thanks just, but UC isn't running the show, and hasn't been since RG came onboard. It has been all Stoecklein, with Maheu overseeing the legal portion, and following the plan laid out by Glenn. UC has been doing what he does best in the interim, overseeing the mining and drilling operations. He will lay low for at least another week, imo, while this thing plays out with the attornies.
 
Posted by will on :
 
justplayin, you made legals day, admiring him for his forbearance, and pitying him for his hardship:

maoschist: 4. enjoyment of hardship: the tendency to invite and enjoy misery of any kind, especially in order to be pitied by others or admired for forbearance
 
Posted by Thorn on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
If the market makers can cover 2 billion shares a day on a 3 trillion share ns, it will only take them 1500 trading days to cover. About 5 years.

I was asking when judgement day is, not how long it would take to fulfill a pipe dream. When does the court move on this stock?
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well Thorn, they have moved already. An initial decision to revoke with a 21 day appeal time.
The company and the O/G made a proposal to the SEC and court, the Judge, had it in her hands before her intitial decision and has not ruled on it. Having it prior to her action might hint that she pretty much ignored it.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Well I'll be damned, they filed something after all!

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1092299/000107704805000397/cmkm-newoffice_8k71305.htm
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Mr. Casavant went on to further state "We are pleased to announce that we have moved out of the hookah bar and have re-located our corprorate offices to the phone booth across the street, all in the name of increasing shareholder value. This is a proud day for the Company and shareholders alike."
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Speaking of drilling and please correct me if I am wrong, but don't I remember something in the Hearing testimony that there were no drilling expenses in 2004? If true, the conclusion should be there WAS NO drilling in 2004, correct?
If the conclusion is true, account for the following:

May/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Phase #1 Drilling of Carolyn Pipe completed.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces 'Carolyn Pipe' at 900+ Feet and Still in Kimberlite.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Progress on Drilling and Exploration Program.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces That Drilling Has Commenced Two Days Ahead of Schedule in the Fort a la Corne Area.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Drilling Program to Commence in the Fort a la Corne Area on Wednesday, March 17, 200
Feb/04 - CMKM announces drilling program to commence.
Jan/04 - CMKM announces purchase of drill rig, accessories, and extra equipment for drilling. Company Signs One Year Contract With Experienced Drill Foreman to Oversee Drill Operation. Program - Commits to Drilling Numerous Holes in Search Of Kimberlite Pipes in the Forte a la Corne Area and Green Lake Area
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
ed, a little hint, check with Double K Excavation near Regina. Owner: Emmerson Koch

And a little hint to you, legal. Bet UC has his fingers somewhere in that bowl (not that he would even know what a finger bowl is) as well as the following:

Name: CASAVANT INTERNATIONAL MINING CORPORATION
Type: Corporation File Number: C1291-2003 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: January 21, 2003
Status: Current list of officers on file Corp Type: Regular
Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC (Accepted)
Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT
HENDERSON NV 89074-
President: URBAN CASAVANT
Address: PO BOX 27740
LAS VEGAS NV 89109-
Secretary: CAROLYN CASAVANT
Address: PO BOX 27740
LAS VEGAS NV 89109-
Treasurer: EMMERSON KOCH
Address: PO BOX 27740
LAS VEGAS NV 89109-

Please note, legal, the name of the "Treasurer". I am willing to bet it is another demonstration of a conflict of interests by both Koch and by Casavant. Therefore, what would you expect from Koch if you wasted time calling him? Same old talk or lack thereof!
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
CMKX's 8K of 7/13/05:

"On July 13, 2005, the Registrant established a new temporary principal executive office at 4760 South Pecos Road, Suite 211, Las Vegas, Nevada 89121. The office is leased on a month-to-month basis for $399 per month."
--------------------

Note the "month to month basis". Now we know how long UC's Master Plan extends from time to time. Really provides assurances that CMKX will be around for a little while, huh? Keep it up, UC. You continue to make deep impressions!
 
Posted by bond006 on :
 
uc office is leased on a month to month basis it figures might as well be a week to week flop house
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
But are what records that exist still in UC's house? What is it, just a phone and a family member to answer it? Maybe Andy? Better yet, maybe Melvin!

You see, unlike Richard Nixon, UC might have burned some records either before or after he took the 5th.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Mr. Casavant went on to further state "We are pleased to announce that we have moved out of the hookah bar and have re-located our corprorate offices to the phone booth across the street, all in the name of increasing shareholder value. This is a proud day for the Company and shareholders alike."

Darn near choked on my coffee....
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
He had to rent on a month-to-month basis because they wouldnt rent to him for just 20 days....
 
Posted by will on :
 
The party line is going to be they rented month to month because they have the goods, and such a lowly temporary office won't fit their image as KING of diamonds. So when this little inconvenient filing problem is behind them they will move to some Manhattan penthouse suite, an address more befitting the KING of diamonds.
Hope this guys next address will be a Federal prison somewhere.
OK noah, we're ready for your DD and highflying bullchit regarding this all important 8K and the implications of it, along with a ton of value theories why they chose it........blah, blah, blah.

[ July 14, 2005, 17:48: Message edited by: will ]
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
So many questions, so much bashing. Let's see where do I start. First, the business is operated from Urbans house for security. Apparently he did learn from Nixon's Watergate. The house has round the clock security, therefore the safest place for sensitive company documents. IMO the new address is just a mail drop for company correspondence and nothing more.


Second, yes Wallace you are right no drilling expenses in 2004 for CMKX. That's because they are being done by JVs or one of the numbered Sask Ltd companies that actually own the claims. That is what I have been trying to say all along. The company that owns the claims is the ones that order the drilling. By now, all or most of our claims, are, or have been moved into safer "ownership", therefore no, or limited, expenses are alloted to CMKX. Please try to look at the bigger picture. Drop the prejudices against CMKX that are clouding your judegement and try to see what is really going on, and you may clearly see what is about to happen.

Third, Emmerson Koch is a long time friend of Urban's, preceeding the CMKX ventures, and someone he can trust to hold the company assets in a separate corporation until the time is right. He is the holder of all of the Sask Ltd claims. And yes, he is quite easy to talk to, and a very friendly and helpful individual. If you want to go back to the recent Vegas race postings, you will find that he is the one that told multiple shareholders that 50 some holes had been punched this year. Or you could just call him a liar, fail to realize that Urban's friend, who holds most of the claims, and an excavation company, just might know something about that subject. And where do you get the idea that it is a conflict of interest to serve as the Treasurer of CMKX while owning holding companies with their claims? That sort of thing is frequently done.

The telephone number for the IR goes through Urban's Sask residence which Melvin maintains for him when he is in Vegas, and the phone number is registered in Melvin's name. I think he is still an employee in Sask and has been since Andy got the IR's job, but I don't know that for sure.

I think that's all you asked.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
If you want to see photos of the building, they are here. The building is up for sale at auction and this is the flyer:

http://www.interstateauction.com/2004mar24/
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I figured it out, there's magic mushrooms ground up in the koolaid. Thats why it cost $25 to join th OG. They send you a starter kit. Nice story but still seen not one ounce of proof that one more hole then the 15 was drilled, by CMKX or Santa clause. And if all the assets are moved, what makes you think that you will ever see them again. UC's word or lack there of. I am sure that World com and Enron shareholders believe the manure that they were feed too.

"there you go assuming again. You don't know what the company is doing. You are only seeing what you want to see, or what supports your contentions."
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Too busy, legal, to address everything. However, you evidently do not know what represents a conflict of interests.

Giving that $1 mil over to CIM was a "Conflict of Interest"....two separate companies controlled by Casavant.

Dealing with Koch with any kind of drilling company (and probably UC really owns most of it) while Koch is Treasurer or related in some way to Casavant is a "Conflict of Interests".

You state: "And where do you get the idea that it is a conflict of interest to serve as the Treasurer of CMKX while owning holding companies with their claims?"

That is precisely what a conflict of interests is!

Let's look at Koch for example. As Treasurer a deal comes up and he has to be involved with negotiating a contract for CMKX. It's a drilling contract and his firm is the highest bid for exactly the same work, etc. It would probably be in CMKX's best interest under those conditions to take the lowest bid. It would be in Koch's and his company's best interest to secure the contract at that highest bid. That represents a conflict of interests that should never exist in the first place. The same thing would be true re CMKX and CIM....Casavant and Casavant, just a different scenario.

You say: "That sort of thing is frequently done."

Show me one company on the Big Board with anything similar and I can guarantee you there is an agreement to eliminate it. Sure, on much lesser markets you may find such goings on (in the OTCBB stocks and especially in the Pinks), but in no way is it considered an ethical practice. It permits games and monies to be siphoned away or to one company or the other depending upon managements' personal interests (incl. their families) as opposed to what is in the best interest of shareholders.

I frequently dealt with such situations and arranged termination agreements of such conflicts.

PS: Seems to me that DeSormeau was also "a long time friend" of Urban Casavant's too. Like I have said before, "birds of a feather stick together".
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'm shocked, just caught up in the days banter & no mention of todays trading???. maybe my microcap is broken but 26 trades for a total of just under 141 million & 50% at .0004 the rest at .0001. what is very strange is not 1 mm listed on L2's, zero, nada, nobody home. he11 even ICAN has a bunch of mm's listed. i don't check L2's for cmkx very often, been a few weeks since the last time but if shares trade there has to be an mm, there were a bunch the last time i looked. fat fingers always go thru most every day & maybe they just never punched in the extra zero so the sells were at .00001 & the buys at .00004 (bunch in a row too) but ya still need an mm.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
bill, it has been awhile. CMKX has been on the greys with no listed MMs since they were suspended. And there was volume under two billion again today.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
was wondering legal, thanks. it sure didn't seem normal. microcap normally has the volume right. tho at 1 point today it was over 1 billion but not enough trades to equal that.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ok bashers we need to give credit when due. from figuring on pb32 it works out to 250 sq/ft of office space but if your about to be revoked & the SEC wants a real office to put on any filings $399 a month & a month to month contract makes sence...but look at your neighbors...should warn ya some nudity on both sites...before & afters look good on the last 1...lol


Looks like we are in good company. Witchqueen lives there.

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Here is a link to the next door neighbor's office:

http://www.breastimplants411.com/dbii/Doctors.asp~Loc_ID=762

Let the jokes continue!!

PPS
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
So many questions, so much bashing. Let's see where do I start. First, the business is operated from Urbans house for security. Apparently he did learn from Nixon's Watergate. The house has round the clock security, therefore the safest place for sensitive company documents. IMO the new address is just a mail drop for company correspondence and nothing more.

LEGAL: Urban is in his basement because he is to damm lazy to move his fat azz to an office and also because its a scam. What a joke a multi million dollar operation in his basement. Geez man you have lost it [Big Grin]
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
So many questions, so much bashing. Let's see where do I start. First, the business is operated from Urbans house for security. Apparently he did learn from Nixon's Watergate. The house has round the clock security, therefore the safest place for sensitive company documents. IMO the new address is just a mail drop for company correspondence and nothing more.

LEGAL: Urban is in his basement because he is to damm lazy to move his fat azz to an office and also because its a scam. What a joke a multi million dollar operation in his basement. Geez man you have lost it [Big Grin]

Quite the contrary Doc, the multimillion dollar operations aren't in CMKX,or his basement. IMO
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Those "million dollar operations" are probably on his azz so he can put it to good use in prison.

Probably cost him a couple of hundred thousand to get one cheek tatooed "Trust Me" and the other "I WAS the Shaftor".

[ July 15, 2005, 00:17: Message edited by: Wallace#1 ]
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Those "million dollar operations" are probably in the slot machines.

But for sure some of the millions went to sponser his hobby, drag racing. I wish shareholders would buy 703 billion shares from me so I could go to the track every week.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
So many questions, so much bashing. Let's see where do I start. First, the business is operated from Urbans house for security. Apparently he did learn from Nixon's Watergate. The house has round the clock security, therefore the safest place for sensitive company documents. IMO the new address is just a mail drop for company correspondence and nothing more.

LEGAL: Urban is in his basement because he is to damm lazy to move his fat azz to an office and also because its a scam. What a joke a multi million dollar operation in his basement. Geez man you have lost it [Big Grin]

Quite the contrary Doc, the multimillion dollar operations aren't in CMKX,or his basement. IMO
Exactly, they do not exist, only one big "scam" in Urban's basement with his fat azz [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Those "million dollar operations" are probably on his azz so he can put it to good use in prison.

Probably cost him a couple of hundred thousand to get one cheek tatooed "Trust Me" and the other "I WAS the Shaftor".

It will be nice to see him in the reverse role of being the "Shaftee" [Big Grin]
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Usually this type of fascination with other mens azzes is reserved for the gay message boards isn't it?
 
Posted by derek111c on :
 
Do you mean the QBID board?
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Signs of a cult

Leaders may be...


* The friendliest person you have ever met.
* People think you are wonderful and know you have connections, influence, or financial resources.
* They have all the answers.
* Hiding a greater "truth" from you until a more "appropriate" time. (Estabrooks, 1999)


The Organization

* A Totalitarian worldview
* Exploitation: There is pressure to give money, to spend a great deal of money on special projects. Exploitation can be financial, physical, or psychological.
* Alienation
* Exclusivity: Secretiveness or vagueness by followers regarding activities and beliefs; recruiting and fund-raising with hidden objectives and without full disclosure; use of "front groups".

The Followers

* Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.

* Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".

* Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.

* Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.

* Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.

* Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.

* Followers believe that outside forces are out to get the gtoup/leader.

[ July 15, 2005, 04:36: Message edited by: Ric ]
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Possibly all that "security" is to protect UC from angry shareholders.....
 
Posted by will on :
 
You're up and at 'em early , ed.

Ric, does that profile of a cult fit ?? LOL !!!

Everyone one of those points applies to these faithful fools. I never refered to them as a cult, but after seeing that definition it sure is difficult to argue that they're not a cult.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
I hereby nominate the following as the post of the year for 2005. If this isnt CMKX, I dont know who it is.

http://www.antandsons.com/therealdeal
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Beware of the Pink Sheet Promotion: Provocative Statements and Investor Greed

Investors, especially small cap traders, are often lured into buying a company's stock in order to live up to the dream of making a quick buck, easily and without pain. To do this, one would have to bypass the higher exchanges such as the New York Stock Exchange, Nasdaq and American Stock Exchange in order to scout for companies to purchase on lower market trading venues like the Over the Counter Bulletin Board and the Pink Sheets where higher percentage returns on investment is the norm. These are public markets where regulatory requirements are practically invisible and disclosure through Securities and Exchange Commission filings is limited. Yet, an investor is still able to keep his mouth watering because of the potential of doubling or even tripling his investment in a matter of hours. Even though those risks would scare off any rational or conservative investor, the high reward is able to outweigh that risk, giving a strange comfort to the investor who is able to ignore those risks in exchange for a chance of a profit.

To reach a few of these investors, it does not take much for any company or management team to entice them to buy their stock. However, it does take a cunning, masterful and sometimes scheming promoter to capture many of these investors who are gullible to greed and desire to reap profits.

It all begins with a plan by the chief executive officer of the company, sometimes the only real or sole employee of the company, who goes out and hires consultants to help with his vision. The vision, at the surface, is an ambitious plan to create some sort of long term value through a legitimate operation. However, what meets the eye is not always true, and time and time again, a company's quest to create value is just an excuse to raise money through a scheme that is devised to stash as much money as possible, not for company operations, but for the management's piggy banks.

The promotion is underway when the consultants get to work with direct supervision of management, and this is where it gets interesting. Usually, the promotion starts off with a flurry of press releases filled with forward looking statements that have yet to be proven or backed with real results. Then if it is a real top notch promotion, a coordinated visibility campaign would occur with a well known investment newsletter that would successfully convert readers into buyers of the company's stock.

Take for instance, the June edition of the Kissinger Financial Letter, which is helping to create a bit of publicity for some undiscovered company. In this particular edition, the newsletter uses a seemingly very reputable source, an oil giant who has made billions in the Giddings Oil Fields of South Texas to help promote Am-Tex Oil & Gas (Pink Sheets: AMTX), a tiny oil and gas exploration company in which 25% of the project is jointly owned by the oil mogul's company. With his untarnished credibility, the newsletter leaves him as the backdrop for which they could now paint a picture of a sure thing investment. The newsletter provides even more incentives by claiming that if oil is produced at certain levels, the stock price of Am-Tex could appreciate thousands of percentage points.

While this may seem like a sure bet to snatch a pot of gold, this mind frame is what makes the average investor susceptible to risking their money in these types of investments. If you closely read the fine print, the editors of the publicly distributed report provided by Kissinger Financial Letter have received an editorial fee, as well as distribution costs of the newsletter by a third party. What is even more eye opening is that the newsletter was paid an astounding 100,000 shares of Am-Tex Oil & Gas by a third party.

When thinking logically, in a promotion with typical publicity stunts through major newsletters or otherwise, one should be able to see the red flags in a case like this. If the corporation has that much potential to produce a highly lucrative supply of oil, with the support of an oil giant, why would there need to be any reason to promote it? A good investor needs to ignore the hype and take off his rose colored glasses. Every investor must realize that money comes with responsibility, and if it is too good to be true, than it most likely is.

And that is this month’s real deal.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Great post ed.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
legal: "Thanks just, but UC isn't running the show, and hasn't been since RG came onboard. It has been all Stoecklein, with Maheu overseeing the legal portion, and following the plan laid out by Glenn. UC has been doing what he does best in the interim, overseeing the mining and drilling operations. He will lay low for at least another week, imo, while this thing plays out with the attornies."
--------------------

legal, where or how in hell do you get or come up with all the crap such as the above? If anyone is running CMKX, it IS Urban Casavant and very shabbily at that.

Roger Glenn did nothing more than take money, do nothing and run off or was driven off and you still have him walking on water?

Maheu drew a complete blank about anything to do with CMKX, so we know how truly involved he is.

Stoecklein is being paid by CMKX (UC in reality). He's just another lawyer wiping ass for a retainer. For him to be running CMKX, there would have to be some kind of formal action taken at CMKX and we know UC would not let that happen.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Great post ed.

Thanks, guy....looks like our fortune may be in HISC, not here....
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
legal: "Thanks just, but UC isn't running the show, and hasn't been since RG came onboard. It has been all Stoecklein, with Maheu overseeing the legal portion, and following the plan laid out by Glenn. UC has been doing what he does best in the interim, overseeing the mining and drilling operations. He will lay low for at least another week, imo, while this thing plays out with the attornies."
--------------------

legal, where or how in hell do you get or come up with all the crap such as the above? If anyone is running CMKX, it IS Urban Casavant and very shabbily at that.

Roger Glenn did nothing more than take money, do nothing and run off or was driven off and you still have him walking on water?

Maheu drew a complete blank about anything to do with CMKX, so we know how truly involved he is.

Stoecklein is being paid by CMKX (UC in reality). He's just another lawyer wiping ass for a retainer. For him to be running CMKX, there would have to be some kind of formal action taken at CMKX and we know UC would not let that happen.

You keep missing my point Wallace. CMKX is now barely more than a shell. All or most of the operations and assets have been vested in JV's and other Corporations run by Urban. CMKX has become a legal play only and Stoecklein is at the helm of that. However, when the legal play is finished, who knows what part CMKX will play in the big picture. I could give you some educated speculation, but why would I permit you to hammer me with "speculation"?

Where do I get all of this? DD and people close to the operation.

Roger Glenn set up what is now occuring, and Stoecklein is doing the dirty work. Glenn still apart of everything as counsel to USCA.

Maheu drew a complete blank about CMKX operations because there are no operations in that company. See above.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
Legal. if it makes you feel better about your investment well you just keep believing the crap that you post.

You remind me of the joke about the guy who fell from a forty story building, every floor he passed he said "so far so good" well I wonder what he said after he passed the last floor? Maybe "Oh Chit" [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
legal,

L: "All or most of the operations and assets have been vested in JV's and other Corporations run by Urban."
W: First of all, precisely what operations and what assets? Liabilities too. Please show your proof and source.
L: "CMKX has become a legal play only and Stoecklein is at the helm of that."
W: CMKX is on the verge of DEFINITIVE REVOCATION!!! Stoecklein is meaningless at this point in time as applied to CMKX.
L: "I could give you some educated speculation, but why would I permit you to hammer me with "speculation"?
W: Correct, legal. I would "hammer" you about speculation. It means nothing!
L: "Where do I get all of this? DD and people close to the operation."
W: Prove it, legal. We know how you twist so-called DD. What people? Precisely who? How close? What operation? Name names, dates and content of information. PROVE IT!
L: "Roger Glenn set up what is now occuring, and Stoecklein is doing the dirty work. Glenn still apart of everything as counsel to USCA."
W: Glenn set up nothing except a vehicle to siphon money away from stockholders of CMKX.....amounting to 1 page of non-accomplishments. USCA is not CMKX and Glenn is no longer with CMKX, so what are you talking about? Remember, Williams distanced himself from Casavant at the Hearings! Glenn would be serving two masters if what you say is true....another "conflict of interests". Considered unethical.
L: "Maheu drew a complete blank about CMKX operations because there are no operations in that company."
W: If there are no operations, how can you have said above you got something from "people close to the operation"? Are you suggesting CMKX is completely defunct and out of business? Says who....besides you? NAMES! PROOF! Maheu drew a blank at the Hearings because he was kept in the dark and Judge Murry hit the nail on the head when she asked if he was there just for his name only. Besides, CMKX sure as hell was claiming operations when he came on board.

No more generalizing, pontificating, postulating, spinning or speculating, legal. Where's the beef? Show sources and proof. Establish some credibility!
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
A PR from ANY of these JVs would be acceptable.
Just no more IMOs.
NEWS!!!! not prestidigitation...

Dont believe it unless you read it in a PR....Okay, so where are they?
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
1.9 billion again today...who in hell is doing all this trading?
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Scuse me....1.3 billion
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Wallace, you've gotten all you're gettin for now.

BTW, right after Williams "distanced" himself from UC at the hearing, they went to Ecuador together. LOL You'll fall for anything.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Aw, cmon, throw us a bone......ROFL
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Never mind, I forgot UC already gave us a bone.....
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
ed, did you miss my post above. I gave you quite a lot. You have a choice of listening to it or rejecting it, but this is a message board, not a courtroom. I don't have to reveal my sources or my proof. But, a little real DD on anyone's part and some common sense applications of what you see, and what you don't see, will lead you to the proper conclusion. I put it out for you to consider and to lead you to the right sources for making an informed decison about your money. But I don't feel any need to hold anyone's hand and walk them through this. You are all big boys in here, even if your language is a little schoolyard-ish.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
What I DONT see, I dont believe.

I was taught to believe 10% of what you hear, 25% of the written word, and 50% of what you see.

100% is reserved for what you have actually done yourself.

And if you are going to keep postulating theories without any proof at all, you may as well quit posting at all, because I for one will just laugh at you.

And I'll match my use and knowledge of the English language against yours any time.

Jist couse I mespel a werd now an thin, dont meen I donno howe to spel it.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
"I don't have to reveal my sources or my proof."
--------------------

Strange, legal, that's what you keep insisting others do. What is that nonsense? Do as you say, but not as you do?

Your credibility is shot!!! Worthless!
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Hey ed,

How'd you like the way HISC performed today, huh?
A WHOPPER!!! Don't I remember you saying you had about 50K shs?
 
Posted by will on :
 
noah's double standard !!
The guy's full of crap.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Hey ed,

How'd you like the way HISC performed today, huh?
A WHOPPER!!! Don't I remember you saying you had about 50K shs?

Yup, 50K at .02....There will be some mild celebrating tonite....LOL
.083 today, and I wouldnt bet against it going over a dime Monday. They will be PR-ing again very soon. And to the AMEX or higher before the end of the year. From my understanding the paperwork is to be completed near the end of this month. Looks like a wild time.....
GL to US !!!!!
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
"I don't have to reveal my sources or my proof."
--------------------

Strange, legal, that's what you keep insisting others do. What is that nonsense? Do as you say, but not as you do?

Your credibility is shot!!! Worthless!

OK, if my credibility is shot I'll quit posting.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
noah's double standard !!
The guy's full of crap.

Yeah, piss on UC and CMKX. It isnt the only stock in the world. I need this aggravation like I need another hole in my head.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
FULT paid dividends today....wonder if I should buy CMKX with it.....ROFLMAO
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Wallace:
"How'd you like the way HISC performed today, huh?"


I'm glad you guys hit the jackpot.I can't believe it sit there and doubled my BSIO (another homeland security stock) so fast.I mean they can just sit there forever, then BOOM!I should of got some HISC back around the end of June, or after the last run, because I just can't chase.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Highwaychild:
Wallace:
"How'd you like the way HISC performed today, huh?"


I'm glad you guys hit the jackpot.I can't believe it sit there and doubled my BSIO (another homeland security stock) so fast.I mean they can just sit there forever, then BOOM!I should of got some HISC back around the end of June, or after the last run, because I just can't chase.

It isnt a jackpot yet, but IMO it wont be a penny stock for long. These people know what they're doing and the timing is great. Read some of their PRs, I think by next year this may be very undervalued even at a dime.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
$3,150 is a pretty good jackpot to me [Big Grin]
although if pr comes soon, it probably be minor $'s. I agree they look good, & know what they're doing.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Just remember they're pennies, guys. Don't get too greedy, and make sure your sitting on free shares.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
http://www.secinfo.com/d1zrpn.zcv.htm#1stPage
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Will, there ya go ruining all our fun.
I thought we wuz supposed to be greedy, otherwise the SEC wont let you buy penny stock....LOL
 
Posted by will on :
 
Hey, I'm just trying to help. I noticed some of you guys are careless with your sack, and get kicked when you're not looking. I'm like the guy in the Western that shouts, "watch out, he's gotta a gun".

quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Will, there ya go ruining all our fun.
I thought we wuz supposed to be greedy, otherwise the SEC wont let you buy penny stock....LOL


 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Highwaychild:
http://www.secinfo.com/d1zrpn.zcv.htm#1stPage

Wonder if they can git-r-dun in the next 10 days or so....LOL
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Outlook not so good
 
Posted by will on :
 
Chances = slim to zero, and slim was seen leaving the building with Elvis.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
"I don't have to reveal my sources or my proof."
--------------------

Strange, legal, that's what you keep insisting others do. What is that nonsense? Do as you say, but not as you do?

Your credibility is shot!!! Worthless!

OK, if my credibility is shot I'll quit posting.
Another broken promise, I bet.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
"I don't have to reveal my sources or my proof."
--------------------

Strange, legal, that's what you keep insisting others do. What is that nonsense? Do as you say, but not as you do?

Your credibility is shot!!! Worthless!

OK, if my credibility is shot I'll quit posting.
legal, do as you wish. You will anyway! But please, if you continue posting such as the above, be specific with information such as names, sources, content etc. It will better serve your image on this board. You can reprieve yourself! LOL
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
From the 8K mentioned above:

"The change in accountants does not result from any dissatisfaction with the quality of professional services rendered by Bagell, Josephs & Company, L.L.C., as the independent accountants of Registrant."
--------------------

Notice they say nothing as to whether or not Bagell,Josephs & Company declined being their accountants because of some dissatisfaction on their part. Sometimes such omissions say more than the admissions.

[ July 15, 2005, 19:22: Message edited by: Wallace#1 ]
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
NOW!!! BUY HISC! BUY HISC! BUY HISC! NOT A QUACK! QUACK! QUACK! STOCK OR MANAGEMENT!

I AM PUMPING!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT DUMPING THOUGH...YET.
 
Posted by will on :
 
They weren't disatisfied, the were out and out insulted and pissed off.
 
Posted by will on :
 
So, you stuck the pig in the ass there, did ya, pal?

quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
NOW!!! BUY HISC! BUY HISC! BUY HISC! NOT A QUACK! QUACK! QUACK! STOCK OR MANAGEMENT!

I AM PUMPING!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT DUMPING THOUGH...YET.


 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
will, you cannot discourage me. I'm up into a very nice 5 figure profit so far on HISC.

I believe in HISC and it's management. I think they just hired a new lawyer who worked for the SEC and he walks on water. They bought back shares on the open market, thereby reducing the O/S. They've signed big contracts. They also got some big, big shot (much bigger than Maheu) associated w/Geo.W.Bush working with them now. They are in the business of homeland security....incl. tracking of people. What more could we ask for? Some have said that's how they found that guy who might have made those bombs in Egypt.

LOL! I lied about the lawyer and the guy in Egypt though. Sounded great though, huh? The rest is basically the truth!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Wallace, I wasn't discouraging you. I saw HISC a long time ago, and could never figure why it was so sick. bill and I talked about it, before that UpMan and I talked about it. When I first saw it I couldn't figure it out, it looked great, right people running it, right industry, everything looked good except the PPS. I thought I saw it dip to .001 or .0015 at one time.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Yeah, we did talk about it and being the smart fellers that we are, we didn't buy it.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Yea, but we talked about it. LOL !! That one an 50 others that took off. I did buy a few and sold them too early. ONEV, XPLI, STVFE, TNOG...some I remember. LOL

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Yeah, we did talk about it and being the smart fellers that we are, we didn't buy it.


 
Posted by Upside on :
 
You know what's really upsetting me right now? My wife is going to be out until about 9:00 tonight which I've known about for the last few days so me, being the good guy that I am, downloaded a bunch of her favorite songs over the last few days and was going to burn them to a CD tonight and then sit out on our deck with her when she got home and pop the cd into the player and really wow her. You married guys know what I mean, kind of set the stage for later, make her think I'm a real romantic guy. Well, someone snatched the USB cable from my cd burner and put it into something else so now it doesn't work. So, I've been yanking cables out of other things to put them into the burner and now I've got Windows telling me that I really screwed up and nothing works anymore. I've got 6 loose USB cables in my hand and Windows is throwing a fit telling me that I can't just pull them out like that and I'm probably damaging my hardware. I've got a software program telling me I'm an idiot. I'm looking at the back of my computer and it looks like a bowl of cable spaghetti with a nice, thick dust topping and I'm saying screw it, I'll deal with this mess tomorrow. I'll just have to lay some of that old Upside charm on her. Pretty sure that'll work, it's like a magic potion. I should bottle it and sell it on E-Bay.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Yea, label it as fox piss. LOL

CharMan
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Will:
quote:
Yea, but we talked about it. LOL !! That one an 50 others that took off. I did buy a few and sold them too early. ONEV, XPLI, STVFE, TNOG...some I remember. LOL
We make a good team. Maybe we should start a newsletter.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Yea, label the news letter as fox piss too. LOL
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Hey Up,

Give her some of that BBQ sauce! That will get her hot! LOL
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Yeah, we did talk about it and being the smart fellers that we are, we didn't buy it.

But I did!!!! 150K shares for me and 10K shs for my neighbor.

Lousy 10K shs cost me $40 and they're on cloud nine now! Couldn't have made a better investment there.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Stop yourself, braggart !!
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Stop yourself, braggart !!

will,

Don't you know that kind of success comes from years of experience? You could never reach such a pinnacle because you are too eloquent. You need to get a bit earthy from time to time! LMAO

PS: BUY HISC!!!
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Good job Wallace. Want a good stable stock to buy? Do some research on MOD. They're close to their 52 week high but everything is right with them. They're about to spin off an after market product of theirs and merge it into another company named Transpro, I think. I just got the booklet in the mail the other day detailing the merger, I'll send it to you if you're interested.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Yes, Up, please send it. Would appreciate it and will look into MOD.

As far as HISC is concerned, I think it will continue to go up....but how far I do not know. Good past record. Looking toward positive financials. Good products. Good contracts. Good management. Moving to list on OTCBB - maybe Amex, but OTCBB for sure. Companies working with include Nextel. Homeland Security which is in public eye for some time now. I truly am positive on this right now, but still watch it very, very carefully just in case. Nothing is a sure winner until it happens.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Up,

Gave MOD a quick cursory check. Fundamentals do look good. Nice pps too! That would be for my more permanent portfolio.

Saw the reference to Transpro and the spin-off
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
I'll send it out next week Wallace. One thing about HISC and I don't mean to sound presumptuous, things do look good based on p/r's, but be careful with it. They could be playing the pink sheet game with talk of going to the OTCBB or the AMEX. That's a common ploy that even CMKX has used a number of times. I looked up their filings on the SEC site but the only one available was from March of this year. It was a paper registration of securities so I can't access it.

Anyway, MOD is in the 38 range and I'm looking for it to split around 40, that's traditionally where they do it. Their earnings are due out next week and from what I know, they should be good. They're a local company that we supply a lot of raw material to and they are finally firing on all cylinders. They've been down for quite a while but it looks like they've got their act together now.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Thanks, Up. I am aware of the talk re OTCBB and Amex. That's why I watch it very, very carefully incl. lack of SEC filings. That is one thing that really concerns me because with the volume at which it has been trading, there should be at least 1000 shareholders.

Look at the L2s though:

Bid

NITEu 0.08 1 15:46
TASLu 0.078 1 15:43
MAXMu 0.022 1 07/14
cHDSNu 0.075 1 16:00
cJEFFu 0.071 1 12:49
cEFGIu 0.071 1 15:18
cMDASu 0.07 1 15:07
cFANCu 0.062 1 13:13
cNETWu 0.054 1 07/14
cDOMSu 0.023 1 15:48
cVNDMu 0.022 1 15:43
cJGIOu U 06/30

MMID Ask Price Shares Date/Time

NITEu 0.083 1 15:46
TASLu 0.085 1 15:43
cHDSNu 0.085 1 16:00
cFANCu 0.088 1 13:13
cNETWu 0.10 1 07/14
cMDASu 0.10 1 15:07
cEFGIu 0.10 1 15:18
cVNDMu 0.21 1 15:43
cJEFFu U 12:49
MAXMu U 07/14
cDOMSu U 15:48
cJGIOu U 06/30

PS: One other good thing is that they are not a damn, stinking Nevada registered company
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Yep, if they're for real, they could fly. You, your neighbor and Ed could do really well. I hope it happens. I'm pretty sure Will talked me out of buying it, after all, Will knows things. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
You might try finding financial info at the following site:

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/finance.jsp?symbol=HISC Click on Financial Reports re Form 211.

According to that info as of 12/31/2004 they had 36 shareholders (and that has to be lots, lots more now). They also showed a net profit of about $550K. Very interesting reading....as is their site.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Damn it, Up, I told you Will is a turkey!
 
Posted by foxtrot6 on :
 
IT IS NOT TO LATE TO BUY HISC
We are going thru $1.00 and beyond
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by foxtrot6:
IT IS NOT TO LATE TO BUY HISC
We are going thru $1.00 and beyond

Careful, my friend. Although I hope you are right, let's not get too carried away right now. It's too soon. This just might be one to hold for about a year though....assuming it doesn't decline to any major degree and continues on it's current path.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
howdy folks...quit braggin wallace...geezzeeeus christ...lol i had hisc at .015 held it hated the manipulation of the pps by the mm's got out at .018, over the next few days it hit .05. back down to .025...do i buy again??? HELL NO...i did buy today at .068 & i aint sellin till its .50 ...F them. i think if they buy 30% more back off the open market its a $1 stock by the end of the yr if not sometime next yr. too much talk of re-doing all the port security in the news & that HISC's soon to be bread & butter.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
bill,

They are also involved with all other kinds of security besides, seaports....trains, truck transportation, etc.

Also involved with personal security and tracking of individuals for security purposes.

I will make up my mind about $.50 or $1.00 if it hits $.20/share. I think $.10 is a given. GLTY

PS: Look at that site I posted, bill, and I think you will be comfortable with your Buy price.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i saw that long ago wallace...my trouble is i want instant cash...none of this waiting around 2 or 3 months chit...lol. maybe there's a clue there as to why my account has dropped so bad this yr...lol
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
personally i think HISC has a dip back to .06 coming next week unless big news hit...profit taking. even very good looking companies lose pps to that. i'm thinking a good 1/2 day monday then it started to dip. might hit .10 before it dips. the cash i have in HISC is there, i'll flip it till it hits .50.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
bill, it flew right through resistance from .058 to .083 today. Everything - the pps, the huge volume, the # of Buyers vs Sellers, the regular and positive PRs, the current security situations and the fact that they do file something with the SEC which looks positive - suggests it will continue to climb on Monday rather than slide. Be interesting to see which of us is correct.

Maybe the profit taking has worn itself out and people are now thinking they should now stick with it for a longer period of time.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
LOL, I am sorry not to say its a bad stock but that is what is said about all the hot penny stocks. Remember GZFX, QBID, TCFT, IBZT, WMNI, CNES and many many more. And they all did alright during the run and they all plummetted after the hype. It seems everytime one of these run, its "we are going to a dollar." You need to read the dow theory on the stock market.

I will bet it will never break the .19 magic number for penny stocks.

quote:
Originally posted by foxtrot6:
IT IS NOT TO LATE TO BUY HISC
We are going thru $1.00 and beyond


 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Who the hell asked you Ric? LOL Can't you support my PUMP? Damn BASHER!

PS: And I gave you 5 stars a long time ago. Geeezz!
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
lol Wallace. I be quiet. SSSSShhhhhhhhhhhh

I will keep it to the CMKX basher board, lol.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
WOW!! Ric, you learn a lot faster than legal. LOL Took you all of 3 minutes.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Only thing that would scare me about it is the fact that CNES longs are in it. They could jinx any good stock, lol. They diffently don't know when to sell high.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ya Ric..ya just bash everything now????...lol the o/s is about 500 million, it needs to drop to a lot smaller number to see $1 or start raking in the cash. this product they just had a $2.5 million sell of could be a big hit tho. still think a dip is coming followed by a sideways move. if it hit .10 before it starts dipping it will only drop to the .07's. you are right wallace, profit taking will slow down & may have already but if i can sell at .10 & buy back at .07 i'll be doin so.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
another homeland security penny that i think has a big run coming is AMNI, that is if they quit pr'ing about security glass chit as of june this yr the float is 260 million. they need to get reporting very soon or the SEC will be breathing down their necks too. dont see an HISC in it but a couple pennies sounds about right.

Estimated Market Cap: 2.173M as of 2005-07-14 (based on Outstanding Shares as of 2005-06-01)
Authorized Shares: 750,000,000 as of 2005-06-01
Float: 260,000,000 as of 2005-06-01
Number of Shareholders of Record: 3,500 as of 2005-06-01
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
bill, :-)~~

lol
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i take it your bashing AMNI too ric???...lol actually i dont own any, just on my watch list for news, they do have other things besides this glass crap.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
I'm tired guys! Good night!
 
Posted by farpceca on :
 
hisc OS = 450m
float = 200m

fwiw. oh and cmkx sucks.
 
Posted by toddr545 on :
 
hey puds this is a cmkx thread! keep it that way, thanks
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
"hey puds this is a cmkx thread! keep it that way, thanks"
--------------------

toddr,

What's a "pud"? I better ask Will. With his eloquent vocabulary, he should know for sure! LOL

Where the hell is that guy anyway?

Don't worry, toddr, every once in a while we divert attention away from CMKX for just a bit more fun. BUY HISC!!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Wallace a pud is your favorite toy you used to play with when you were an adolescent, before you knew that it was much better to share your toy with a young lady. You still have it, just that the novelty of playing with it has worn off. You know how those old toys get all limp and out of shape.

...and he's right on both counts. LOL !

you guys are puds, and this is a CMKX thread. LOL !

Way to go toddr.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
toddr545
Member


Rate Member posted July 16, 2005 02:01
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
hey puds this is a cmkx thread! keep it that way, thanks

==========================================

puds???? i think he was trying to insult us. here we are yappin about a real stock for a bit and some pud shows up from nowhere & wants to establish order?? ON A CMKX THREAD???? just the thought of order on a cmkx thread hurts my head. might be he is a lurking cult member and talk of a stock that increases in value causes reality to slip in between the kool-aide. if thats the case we are sorry, i know that must be painful.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Couple more days we can just let this thread fade off into memory. We better hurry and find another one to bash, or we will lose our standing in Bashers of America's Stock Tickers And Rumor Delivery (*******).
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Hmmmm....even in a joke I get stars....
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ed are you crackin yourself up again????
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
It's a continuous process, Bill....
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Ed, Bill, did you see the encouraging Andy note?LOL
 
Posted by will on :
 
Post it, you pud !
LOL !!!

quote:
Originally posted by Highwaychild:
Ed, Bill, did you see the encouraging Andy note?LOL


 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
It won't let me,I'll have to re type it... hang on
I type slow....
 
Posted by Binky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Couple more days we can just let this thread fade off into memory. We better hurry and find another one to bash, or we will lose our standing in Bashers of America's Stock Tickers And Rumor Delivery (*******).

Ed you forgot to put the word Services at the end of your groups title. lol
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
"Hello CMKX'rs.I hope the Fri. 8k gave you encouragement and opptimism to stay the course.Our auditor is is one of the best in the land and bodes well for how serious UC and TEAM are about obtaining full compliance with the SEC.Enjoy your weekend."

LOL, There you go pud!
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ya i saw highway...lol the BEST AUDITOR IN THE LAND!!!!!....rotflmao. these clowns remind me of the old mighty mouse cartoons, they are coming to save the day. i find it strange, UC hires the best lawyers, auditors, management & its pps is .00005 & its about to be revoked. he should try hiring the worst it might help, the best ain't done squat
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
LOL, I thought you did.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
there is this female clown saying it's part of the "master plan". UC needed a judge to lay out just what was needed to get the SEC of their back. they needed a judge to be told exactly what was needed to comply. of all the lame excuses i've ever heard, that is near the top of the list. every poster on every cmkx board could have told UC that a yr ago but it was UC's plan to get right next to revoked so that he was sure he knew what was needed. by doing this it would stick it to the mm's & hedge funds. this gal says she is some sort of engineering project manager, i'm hoping its for Tinker Toys because anything beyond that level of brain power would be dangerous for the unsuspecting public.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Highwaychild:
"Hello CMKX'rs.I hope the Fri. 8k gave you encouragement and opptimism to stay the course.Our auditor is is one of the best in the land and bodes well for how serious UC and TEAM are about obtaining full compliance with the SEC.Enjoy your weekend."

LOL, There you go pud!

I'm staying the course....any course that will get me AWAY from CMKX and UC.....LOL
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
With slim leaving with Elvis and all, it don't look good.Too little, too late I'm afraid.
I Guess UC has a real fast get-away-car just in case.LOL
 
Posted by will on :
 
"female clown" "assclown circus"

"Do you want Dr. Diamonds, Green Baron, Willy Wizard, Sterling, Judy Cline, Accadacca, Carquest, Topogigo, and Jay Adobe to have their day in court?"

No. I want to see them in the center ring all getting out of the same VW Beatle.

Frigging clowns.

I met that Topogigio guy, god, what a piece of work that guy is. He could sell two color dogcrap , scented and unscented to your angry growling pitbull.

bill, they're all clowns.

What the heck is an "assclown", anyway?

Well, fellow puds, I have family obligations today. I'll be gone until later this evening. Even though it is the weekend I expect to come back to some good reading. Where's noah, he threatened to quit posting, did he? Oh, never mind, he'll be back, he's too stupid to move on, he likes his brains kicked in.
 
Posted by toddr545 on :
 
Hell, I don't know what a pud is, it just sounded good at the time. After a 6 of moosehead and some fine ahi sashimi, I just wanted to poke fun at you folks. back to lurking.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Keep poking, that's what we live for. Heck, I gave you 5 stars just because you called us puds.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Will:
quote:
What the heck is an "assclown", anyway?
assclown (Assclownishness)

Definition: Someone who acts like a fool or total retard and or commits acts of assholishness.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Everybody gets all those 5 stars and I get nothing except 1 star! What the hell is going on here? Just remember, from day 1, I led you folks down the RIGHT path!
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Wallace, I gave you 5 just because you told me about HISC.....
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Wallace:
quote:
Just remember, from day 1, I led you folks down the RIGHT path!
Sir, while I agree that you are the current King Arthur of our bashers Round Table, I suggest you go way back to the original thread started by CashCowMoo. I was the only basher at the time long before there were any Wallace's, Will's, Ed's. Bill's, or other puds. At that time I was the king.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Wallace, I gave you 5 just because you told me about HISC.....
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
oops
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
"I was the only basher at the time long before there were any Wallace's, Will's, Ed's. Bill's, or other puds. At that time I was the king."
--------------------

What the hell are you talking about? You rode the rails so tight that you got butt burns! LOL
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Nap time. Talk to you folks later.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Wallace:
quote:
What the hell are you talking about? You rode the rails so tight that you got butt burns! LOL
You're not going far enough back good King. My rail riding days began later. In the original thread I was alone, fending off attacks daily from the original pumping group. As a matter of fact, Will was one of them, he hated me, well, he still does, but back then it was for different reasons. I was instrumental in his conversion, I think I cost him some money too which still pleases me to this day. My rail riding days began shortly after your arrival and our hostilities broke out which was probably because I could see the writing on the wall, I was being dethroned.
Alas, all good things must pass, the reign of Upside was a short one but sweet nonetheless.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
I dub thee NITE!
 
Posted by will on :
 
I dumb thee both !
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
Number 10 - Life is sexually transmitted.
Number 9 - Health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.
Number 8 - Men have two emotions: Hungry and Horny. If you see him not horney, make him a sandwich!
Number 7 - Give a person a fish and you feed them for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and they won't bother you for weeks.
Number 6 - Some people are like a Slinky.....not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs. (I know some of these)
Number 5 - Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing.
Number 4 - All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism.
Number 3 - Why does a slight tax increase cost you two hundred dollars and a substantial tax cut saves you thirty cents?
Number 2 - In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.
AND THE NUMBER 1 THOUGHT FOR 2005:
We know exactly where one cow with mad-cow-disease is located among the millions and millions of cows in America but we haven't got a clue as to where thousands of illegal immigrants and terrorists are located. Maybe we should put the Department of Agriculture in charge of immigration.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
I dumb thee both !

Smart azz!!!

bill,
"Number 10 - Life is sexually transmitted."

Now you tell me!! Bit late! LMAO at all of it.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
pb32 has some value in its posts wallace...lol
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
LOL!
slpj tell it like it is,huh? "Rat's nest"...LOL!
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
-BrainDamage
-Global Moderator...

"allows all the different sides of the issues to be expressed"

"UC is a human being just like the rest of us, whether he ends up actually being saintly, demonic or someplace in-between"
*******************************************************************
You have stirred up now, got mods attention and everything...
Just struck me as funny,Guy has a point...
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
LMAO!
Bill wrote(over there):

"cmkx has been great entertainment when i sit with a cup of coffee after work or on rainy days like today. i figure i should get something for the money i lost on this POS."

**************************************************************************

I agree, I'm getting something out of it too dang it(along with my free shares).

I'm riding it out.Come on lawers/auditors!!!LOL
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
I got one on mad cows too....

1.. My husband and I divorced over religious differences. He thought he
was
God and I didn't.
2.. I don't suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it.
3.. I Work Hard Because Millions On Welfare Depend on Me!
4.. Some people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them.
5.. I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.
6.. Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.
7.. You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
8.. Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.
9.. Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
10.. I'm not a complete idiot -- Some parts are missing.
11.. Out of my mind. Back in five minutes.
12. NyQuil, the stuffy, sneezy, why-the-heck-is-the-room-spinning
medicine.
13.. God must love stupid people; He made so many.
14.. The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
15.. Consciousness: That annoying time between naps.
16.. Ever stop to think, and forget to start again?
17.. Being "over the hill" is much better than being under it!
18.. Wrinkled Was Not One of the Things I Wanted to Be When I Grew up.
19.. Procrastinate Now!
20.. I Have a Degree in Liberal Arts; Do You Want Fries With That?
21.. A hangover is the wrath of grapes.
22.. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash advance
23.. Stupidity is not a handicap. Park elsewhere!
24..They call it PMS because MadCow Disease was already taken.
25..He who dies with the most toys is nonetheless dead.
26..A picture is worth a thousand words, but it uses up three thousand
times
the memory.
27..Ham and eggs. A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for
a
pig.
28.. The trouble with life is there's no background music.
29.. The original point and click interface was a Smith and Wesson.
30.. I smile! because I don't know what the hell is going on.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
ed,

LLH at all of them. The following in particular:

13.. God must love stupid people; He made so many.
NOTE: Puts me in mind of the faithful CMKXers.

15.. Consciousness: That annoying time between naps.
NOTE: Puts me in mind of myself!
 
Posted by derek111c on :
 
LOL, can't believe that one.

Number 6 - Some people are like a Slinky.....not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
This one's me...

6.. Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.

And this one,reminds me of last nights poker game
(I killed it too,broke 3 of my peps,lol)

21.. A hangover is the wrath of grapes.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by derek111c:
LOL, can't believe that one.

Number 6 - Some people are like a Slinky.....not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

Hell, derek, that's me too. About 2 yrs ago I DID tumble down the stairs! Broke 4 ribs and guarantee you I wasn't smiling. Never experienced that kind of pain before.

Leave it to bill to point out another of my liabilities.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Glad u guys liked em...tomorrow back to the bashing grind....LOL
Nite all.
 
Posted by BuyTex on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
I got one on mad cows too....

1.. My husband and I divorced over religious differences. He thought he
was
God and I didn't.
2.. I don't suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it.
3.. I Work Hard Because Millions On Welfare Depend on Me!
4.. Some people are alive only because it's illegal to kill them.
5.. I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.
6.. Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.
7.. You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
8.. Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.
9.. Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
10.. I'm not a complete idiot -- Some parts are missing.
11.. Out of my mind. Back in five minutes.
12. NyQuil, the stuffy, sneezy, why-the-heck-is-the-room-spinning
medicine.
13.. God must love stupid people; He made so many.
14.. The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
15.. Consciousness: That annoying time between naps.
16.. Ever stop to think, and forget to start again?
17.. Being "over the hill" is much better than being under it!
18.. Wrinkled Was Not One of the Things I Wanted to Be When I Grew up.
19.. Procrastinate Now!
20.. I Have a Degree in Liberal Arts; Do You Want Fries With That?
21.. A hangover is the wrath of grapes.
22.. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash advance
23.. Stupidity is not a handicap. Park elsewhere!
24..They call it PMS because MadCow Disease was already taken.
25..He who dies with the most toys is nonetheless dead.
26..A picture is worth a thousand words, but it uses up three thousand
times
the memory.
27..Ham and eggs. A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for
a
pig.
28.. The trouble with life is there's no background music.
29.. The original point and click interface was a Smith and Wesson.
30.. I smile! because I don't know what the hell is going on.

I don't usually post here, but thas some funny chit...good lines in there...

GLTA,
BT
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Well, got me a good one this morning, CALI. Nice to have a 85% morning. Could use a couple more this week.

I guess Legal ran off. I haven't seen him since he said that he would leave. I thought he had a thicker skin then that to let someone run him away.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Didn't run away Ric, it's just too late in the game to talk about it anymore.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
The game's over? I missed the last pitch? When did that happen?
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Final score SEC-9 CMKX-0

Shutout
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Blitzed!!!
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'm thinkin cmkx owes a few runs...lol wallace, had to defend hisc today on the wftv thread. might be our new stock to bash. they have dumped about 1.2 billion shares into the o/s over the last 2 months & are still printing. guy said HISC is headed to .01 next...i think .10 maybe .08 at the end of the week, early next week on profit taking but not .01. this guy thinks 1.4 billion shares will see .01 1.5 billion by next week.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
I see SGGM resumed trading today and promptly fell a mere 98.89%. Boy, you've sure gotta hand it to old Urban, everything he touches turns to gold. A modern day King Midas.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
SGGM doesn't have an OG in its court... only kissin cousins....with the OG it would have hit .0001 today
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Man, I hate to be the one thats stuck with sggm. Talk About a free fall. A penny one minute then .0001 the next and I bet that it falls further. .00004
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ric...ya see the pb32 chit? SGGM on nasdaq & should be $5 a share, UCA is mining uranium in canada already because they have a permit to explore, SGGM has a gold mine i guess only the form is delisted & archived. going thru those threads is like shooting fish in a barrel. in the thread i started yesterday the last post said it would be nice if i stated facts...lol. i guess they don't consider pr's & court transcripts as fact because thats all i brought up. now somebody posted some code for the SGGM halt as a 400 code which is supposed to mean liquidation???... not sure where that came from but from .01 to .0001 it would make sense..lol
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
SGGM... something isn't it?
They only had 3 trades today...
Time------- Price------- Volume
14:56:22--- 0.0001--- 3,000 for $0.30

14:04:34--- 0.0001--- 400 for $0.04

12:15:43--- 0.008--- 1,000 for $8.00

Real legitimate trades.LOL
Looks like they're in front of the firing squad.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Yeah was just reading on RB thread on sggm. They are saying that it will reverse and run over a penny. The sad thing is I actually believe this person thinks that. Is it a prerequisite before you can buy a stock UC is involved with, you must have lost your mind or sense of reality.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Seems to me I remember legal touting SGGM stock not that very long ago when the SEC halted began action against CMKX. Looks like another bummer for the faithful, huh.
 
Posted by will on :
 
How many days left?
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Well, I guess there is one born every minute. I believe someone in here said every second where cmkx is concerned. Now this is funny. Wonder how many will fall for this. I did starout the web address. I seen no use in including it on allstocks site.

CDLIC
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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Scam after scam after scam after SCAM!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Pretty soon Abbott and Costello will be wetting their beaks somehow, and they're DEAD !
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Who's on first?
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Highwaychild:
Who's on first?

Highway,

Have you finally been converted to our way of thinking?
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Well, I've been had by better companies *cough*,*cough*, Worldcom!... But I never quite got this much entertainment on that one.But like I say, I have some free shares on CMKX so what the heck, I havn't much to loose.I do hope CMKX pulls it off just to spite you Shake... I mean Wallace,but do I expect them to,no.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Shakeman ! LOL !!
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i'm wondering how USCA escaped anything more then a halt. they have yet to file unless i missed something. ya think maybe a little back door file exchange with the SEC on cmkx & sggm saved them? maybe a little open book look to the SEC & the book had certain info on the rest of the gang? if i remember correctly USCA was halted for misleading info in prs. unless it was cooked books that normally doesn't go very far past fines but no fines & the next thing ya know cmkx & sggm are on the clock & USCA's prez has memory lapse on the stand & gets a pass for it. USCA also came out before cmkx's 8k & stated no kimberlite found in amounts worth looking further into or in easy terms NO VALUE.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well suprize suprize...i was banned from pb32...lmao. as ric copied here i had followed a guys post with a profane word in it. i was pm'ed to change it, i did but i didn't change the part about my opinion that UC has cheated shareholders. i was told in 1 post i could get sued for slander & in another that i had no facts. so i posted the fact that everything i said was in pr's, court transcripts & the divy page from OTCBB. i said everything was fact except my opinion that UC cheated every shareholder. i stated that with what is known today UC would need to prove me wrong because as of right now my opinion is backed by fact. i guess they just can't take the heat over there. just too easy to punch holes in their theories. well god bless'em, may their families forgive them for losing so much cash on a pink sheet scam. oh & legal you can post this over there with my blessings because i'm guessing your posting of something i said from here earier today is what banned me, how foolish some of the ideas ppl had there today were.
 
Posted by will on :
 
I'm proud of you , bill !
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Congrats bill!!! As far as I know voicing one's opinion cannot be construed as slander. I agree with your opinion. My opinion is that UC scammed and cheated CMKX shareholders too. Go back and tell them I said so! LOL Isn't that pb32 where foul mouth, trailer trash, scum bag JBCak hangs out now? And, they banned you???
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Shakeman ! LOL !!

BUY HISC!!! Should go above .15 tomorrow.

NOTE; THIS IS A PUMP!

PS: I need the $$$$s. Help me, help me, help......
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Just got through reading your blantant bashing. If I was them, I would have banned you after the second page. You should be ashamed of yourself.

As the great Cable Guy said: "Now thats funny, I don't care what you say, thats funny."
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Good night, my friends. You too, will and Upside.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Wallace:
quote:
Good night, my friends. You too, will and Upside.
Now wait a minute here....Hey Will, did you see this?
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
well suprize suprize...i was banned from pb32...lmao. as ric copied here i had followed a guys post with a profane word in it. i was pm'ed to change it, i did but i didn't change the part about my opinion that UC has cheated shareholders. i was told in 1 post i could get sued for slander & in another that i had no facts. so i posted the fact that everything i said was in pr's, court transcripts & the divy page from OTCBB. i said everything was fact except my opinion that UC cheated every shareholder. i stated that with what is known today UC would need to prove me wrong because as of right now my opinion is backed by fact. i guess they just can't take the heat over there. just too easy to punch holes in their theories. well god bless'em, may their families forgive them for losing so much cash on a pink sheet scam. oh & legal you can post this over there with my blessings because i'm guessing your posting of something i said from here earier today is what banned me, how foolish some of the ideas ppl had there today were.

Bill sorry you got banned. Really. I felt that you might actually start to see there is more to this stock if you hung around there a little while. And I haven't reposted anything you said here today.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Dont feel bad, Bill. PB32 is just a bunch of Koolaid drinkers anyway. They dont want to know the truth about UC. Now I understand the NSS info has been turned over to the FBI. This is a two-edged sword. When the FBI does an investigation, UC will be included. Best chance we have for him to find out how it feels to be a prisoner instead of a guard.
GOT FBI??
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Wonder how all those shareholders feel about having all their information on file with the FBI?
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
The honest ones feel fine.
 
Posted by Just Looking on :
 
"Honest" by whose definition?

quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
The honest ones feel fine.


 
Posted by will on :
 
C'mon, a guy buys a stock, how in the heck does it make him dishonest by anyone's definition.
The problem comes when they fall in love with it, and all signs are pointing downward, and they continue to pump it. That's the only deceptive practice with some people, not the purchase of a stock.
Now, those knuckleheads that received free shares to pump it, well, maybe that's who you're referring to ???
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Somebody should sweep CMKX under a rug. There are so many opportunities out there, it doesnt make sense to waste time on this scam. IMO, think I'll take a break from this thread until something important happens, if ever.
This is distracting me from making money in real stocks....LOL
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
what's with sggm, I thought it was halted???
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Nah, UC was involved with it, so it took a dive like CMKX.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Was reading on the CT board.

Something I do find funny though about the CT is that investing is a form of legalized gambling that I really don't think god would promote. Not saying that you would go to he11 for investing but may faith would not allow me to believe that god would draw me to or give me a vision to a stock. But then there is CMKX. It has deceived, whether you think that its a small deception or not but they have. They lied about the o/s. They lied on a form 15. They lied about the address of the company. These are facts every how small you might think they are, a lie is a lie to god. I believe there are many other lies too but the cult seems to not want to believe those. But why would god lead you to a company that its CEO lies to its shareholders and refuses them basic information so they know the truth? Well, just an observation from reading some posts on CT.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Halts are only for 10 days by the SEC rules. It takes a revocation or a suspension to be longer then 10 days and you must get a hearing for that to happen. A hearing has been set and if the Judge finds there is evidence to revoke or suspend then it is longer or for good.

quote:
Originally posted by stockster5:
what's with sggm, I thought it was halted???


 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan York"
To: cmkxshareholders
Subject: [CMKX Shareholders Assoc] Demonstration Planned at DTCC - July 29, 2005
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:21:47 -0500


Demonstration Planned at DTCC - July 29, 2005
by Mark Faulk
Counterfeit Conspiracy documentary to educate fellow Americans on acts of Financial Terrorism being committed against our country!


Join us in front of the Depository Trust and Clearing Corporation building at 55 WATER STREET, NEW YORK, NY 10041 on July 29th, 2005 at 10am to help educate America on this act of terrorism.

We have a counterfeiting problem in the United States of America that has corrupted our markets, ruined our small businesses, has and is destroying college funds, savings accounts, 401Ks, jobs and our American economy. It is as damaging to our countrys financial strength as putting counterfeit money on the streets and just as illegal!

As we all know, the counterfeiting of anything of monetary value is illegal. It is a crime that is punished to the full extent of the law because of how much harm it can cause every single American citizen.

The crime that we are talking about is the counterfeiting of U.S. securities, or more commonly known as Naked Short Selling. This is a counterfeiting crime and it must be stopped and the violators must be brought to justice, it is weakening our country.

Did you know that brokers in foreign countries are selling stock in American companies that are counterfeit? It would be like you owning 100% of your own business and several other people from different countries claiming they own your business too, many times over. Only in this scenario, when the business fails because of this crime, the crooks make off with all the money and no one is stopping them!


"We the People" of the United States of America are demanding that our government take action! If you need to know what this crime is and how it happens, we will educate you. If you need the help of "We the People", we will help you. But America cannot wait for politics, we need action on this matter and we need it now!

How can you help your country? You can join us in front of the Depository Trust and Clearing Corporation building at 55 WATER STREET, NEW YORK, NY 10041 on July 29th, 2005 at 10am to protest this crime and help educate America.

Please visit us at www.CounterfeitConspiracy.com to sign up to join us in New York and to be part of the solution. We need all Americans to unite together in this cause.

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Map of Depository Trust & Clearing, 55 Water St New York, NY by MapQuest

This is the last scheduled event in our ongoing fight against the NSS before Hugo completes his Counterfeit Conspiracy video. We are trying to get a number of high profile people to attend this protest rally and to get press coverage.

Hotel Info: The Holiday Inn at 15 Gold Street is within walking distance of the rally and we have a discounted rate there of $200 (and change) per night including all taxes. Hotel Link HOLIDAY INN NEW YORK CITY HOTELS | MANHATTAN-WALL STREET DISTRICT | Official Hotel Site

Holiday Inn
MANHATTAN-WALL STREET DISTRICT
15 GOLD ST
NEW YORK CITY, NY 10038
UNITED STATES
Tel: 1-212-232-7700
Fax: 1-212-425-0330
Email: Reservations@holidayinnwsd.com
Check-In Time: 3:00 PM
Check-Out Time: 12:00 PM

*** When making reservations say the rate is for HUGO or SHG and the hotel contact is Joe Ray if any problem getting the rates.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Yea, they'll have 30 people there like our good friend noah had at the SEC demonstration. Expected 50,000, had 30. LOL
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Yea, they'll have 30 people there like our good friend noah had at the SEC demonstration. Eaxpected 50,000, had 30. LOL

There is no hope for these poeple they have replaced their blood with kool-aid. Noah is the ring leader of crazy [Big Grin] It's truly amazing how brainwashed these people are, you have to give Urban credit he is a good brainwasher and scammer.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
Was reading on the CT board.

Something I do find funny though about the CT is that investing is a form of legalized gambling that I really don't think god would promote. Not saying that you would go to he11 for investing but may faith would not allow me to believe that god would draw me to or give me a vision to a stock. But then there is CMKX. It has deceived, whether you think that its a small deception or not but they have. They lied about the o/s. They lied on a form 15. They lied about the address of the company. These are facts every how small you might think they are, a lie is a lie to god. I believe there are many other lies too but the cult seems to not want to believe those. But why would god lead you to a company that its CEO lies to its shareholders and refuses them basic information so they know the truth? Well, just an observation from reading some posts on CT.

Ric, perhaps you forgot that Jesus gave an example of three stewards who were to invest their masters money while he was gone. Two made investments that earned a good return and were rewarded. One hid the money and was criticized severely.

Christians are charged with being good stewards, and it's obvious from that Scripture that God has no problem with ownership of businesses through investment.

I don't see it as a gamble because I do not see Urban as a liar or a cheat. I believe he invested my money in exploration.....the thing he was supposed to do. I believe that he continues to operate in the secrecy that is necessary when so many people want to take away what rightfully belongs to Urban and the shareholders. That void of information opens the door to people like those here, who take advantage of that void to fill it with whatever serves their agenda.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Yea, they'll have 30 people there like our good friend noah had at the SEC demonstration. Eaxpected 50,000, had 30. LOL

There is no hope for these poeple they have replaced their blood with kool-aid. Noah is the ring leader of crazy [Big Grin] It's truly amazing how brainwashed these people are, you have to give Urban credit he is a good brainwasher and scammer.
Noah appreciates being called a leader, and also appreciates you posting the message above for the rally he is helping to organize.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
SGGM up 15,000%. Hope you got in yesterday. Not bad for a stock coming off suspension and facing a hearing. Oh wait a minute you guys were bashing the stock yesterday. Never mind.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Not to turn this into a religious conversation because I realize some are adamantly opposed to it but, there are many who do claim to have been drawn to this stock by God. Have you ever wondered that if true, just what the reason might be? The obvious answer is that the stock will have a huge pay off and much good will come of it. Have you ever considered that perhaps there's another reason for it? Perhaps to teach a harsh lesson regarding greed? Or maybe to show how easy one can be deceived? Could be any number of reasons and I'm not trying to rile anyone by saying it, just food for thought.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Yea, they'll have 30 people there like our good friend noah had at the SEC demonstration. Eaxpected 50,000, had 30. LOL

There is no hope for these poeple they have replaced their blood with kool-aid. Noah is the ring leader of crazy [Big Grin] It's truly amazing how brainwashed these people are, you have to give Urban credit he is a good brainwasher and scammer.
Noah appreciates being called a leader, and also appreciates you posting the message above for the rally he is helping to organize.
Being the ring leader of a cult is hardly a compliment, just another sign of your loss of reality. You truly need help getting your meds adjusted. Rally, what a crock, yep a bunch of fools who lost touch with reality, like they will even notice you fools [Big Grin]
 
Posted by xyz on :
 
There are still people that haven't figured out what this is? That is really hard to believe. It is right there in front of your face. This is/was/will continue to be a scam.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by xyz:
There are still people that haven't figured out what this is? That is really hard to believe. It is right there in front of your face. This is/was/will continue to be a scam.

And that kind of thinking is probably what placed you at the end of the alphabet.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
He may have led us for any number of reasons, UP. But the thing is, that whatever His reason, it will be for the good of the individual believer. I may not receive any financial blessings, but look at all the good friends I have made here.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Legaleagle:
quote:
I may not receive any financial blessings, but look at all the good friends I have made here.
Wallace & Will?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
legaleagle
Member


Member Rated:
posted July 19, 2005 15:41
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He may have led us for any number of reasons, UP. But the thing is, that whatever His reason, it will be for the good of the individual believer. I may not receive any financial blessings, but look at all the good friends I have made here.


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ok with the freinds part but that comment on not getting any financial rewards is getting close to bashing legal...you'll get banned for that kind of stuff everywhere but here...lol
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Posted by Legaleagle:
quote:
I may not receive any financial blessings, but look at all the good friends I have made here.
Wallace & Will?
They're just a couple of old softies under that coarse exterior. They really love me.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
WOW what happened to HISC down 30%? Wasn't that yesterday's pump. Better stick to bashing.
 
Posted by tntrader on :
 
Die thread, DIE!
 
Posted by tntrader on :
 
In all honesty, think having this blasted thread at the top of this great forum is an insult.

Maybe CMKX should have it's own forum here at allstocks...
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
TN, betting CMKX is the longest living thread on Allstocks. QBID may be close, but long after QBID is gone, there will still be a CMKX thread, though it may be called by a different symbol (hint). Somethings take on a "life" of their own. LOL
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
say you find 10K ppl that invest in stocks without paying someone to pick their stocks. you tell them the KNOWN facts about cmkx without the name or pps.....guy reverse merges into a stock, first filing comes due, its late, file extention. second filing due, first still not in but file extention stating all previous filings have been filed, (first lie) a few months later a form 15 is filed stating 300 or less shareholders of record in the middle of corperate yr meaning the 2 missing reports & the next 2 filings still must be made, can't stop filing in the middle of a fiscal yr., but they never come. for 1 yr ceo claims working towards filing, getting close ahead of schedule. SEC calls about form 15 that was filed 17 months after it was filed. 2 months later company says Opps, we had 698 shareholders of record, that form 15 was wrong. don't even tell them the SEC wants to revoke but point out thatinfo was obtained stating that the company gave 360 ppl & 29 companies over 4 billion shares 6 months before filing form 15. point out that the o/s hit a high of 779 billion shares & was currently 703 billion shares. at least 30% of those ppl will start laughing, at least 50% will ask how much jail time the CEO got, about 20% will point out just how risky the market is. at best 5 ppl might ask what the company business is out of 10K. tell them about 5,000 to 10,000 ppl believe with all their heart this stock will make them rich & buy all they can & those that were laughing will hurt themselves laughing harder most will make some comment about those ppl being crazy but not 1 will buy cmkx. all will tell you its a scam. then tell them its about 21 days from being revoked & the cult is still buying & a number will ask how ppl can buy stocks from a nut house.


legal, thats the group your in & you think i might change my mind about cmkx & then be a part of that group??? all i can say legal is, Which nut house are you in????...lol
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
WOW what happened to HISC down 30%? Wasn't that yesterday's pump. Better stick to bashing.

After selling at .13 it dropped so I could buy more. I like making $1300 on each transaction, might even try it a third time. More than I ever made on CRAP....errr....CMKX.
Hey, isnt that the new symbol?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
legaleagle
Member


Member Rated:
posted July 19, 2005 16:36
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WOW what happened to HISC down 30%? Wasn't that yesterday's pump. Better stick to bashing.


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of course it did legal....3 months ago it was under a penny. you could buy 1 million shares for $3K...it hit .15 today. thats serious profit & not many will pass that much money up to hold. a lot of free shares were earned today i'll bet. in a few weeks it will be back over .10 unless big news hits first.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
say you find 10K ppl that invest in stocks without paying someone to pick their stocks. you tell them the KNOWN facts about cmkx without the name or pps.....guy reverse merges into a stock, first filing comes due, its late, file extention. second filing due, first still not in but file extention stating all previous filings have been filed, (first lie) a few months later a form 15 is filed stating 300 or less shareholders of record in the middle of corperate yr meaning the 2 missing reports & the next 2 filings still must be made, can't stop filing in the middle of a fiscal yr., but they never come. for 1 yr ceo claims working towards filing, getting close ahead of schedule. SEC calls about form 15 that was filed 17 months after it was filed. 2 months later company says Opps, we had 698 shareholders of record, that form 15 was wrong. don't even tell them the SEC wants to revoke but point out thatinfo was obtained stating that the company gave 360 ppl & 29 companies over 4 billion shares 6 months before filing form 15. point out that the o/s hit a high of 779 billion shares & was currently 703 billion shares. at least 30% of those ppl will start laughing, at least 50% will ask how much jail time the CEO got, about 20% will point out just how risky the market is. at best 5 ppl might ask what the company business is out of 10K. tell them about 5,000 to 10,000 ppl believe with all their heart this stock will make them rich & buy all they can & those that were laughing will hurt themselves laughing harder most will make some comment about those ppl being crazy but not 1 will buy cmkx. all will tell you its a scam. then tell them its about 21 days from being revoked & the cult is still buying & a number will ask how ppl can buy stocks from a nut house.


legal, thats the group your in & you think i might change my mind about cmkx & then be a part of that group??? all i can say legal is, Which nut house are you in????...lol

Bill if those investors understood a diamond exploration company and read FIRE INTO ICE, about Fipke, chances are they would invest.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
legal...i think i can hear 10,000 ppl rotfltao after that comment...lol
 
Posted by will on :
 
Big big difference, Fipke worked hard for 20+ years. Was actually out there beating the bush, and managing people in a real effort to find diamonds. Your pal,Urban, was busy diluting, printing, and spending. Fipke worked at real exploration.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Pardon my ignorance, but what the hell is a Fipke?
 
Posted by will on :
 
"Wallace & Will?"

"They're just a couple of old softies under that coarse exterior. They really love me."

C'mon man, make up your mind. Just the other night you were telling your pals over at CT the Anti-Christ, evil, hateful, one was coming to get them.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Go google him ed.

quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Pardon my ignorance, but what the hell is a Fipke?


 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Will do....sounds like one of those ice-skating moves....triple Fipke??
 
Posted by will on :
 
You'll be impressed. The guy worked like a dog, never gave up. Made a lot of people rich along the way.
These puke eaters have Urban confused with him.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Yea, puke eaters ! you read right. Dr D and the others at the top of the CMKX bullchit food chain, eat, puke, and/or defecate their bullchit, and the puke eaters gobble it up. and try to convince everyone it tastes good.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Anyone who doesn't know who Fipke is, could hardly say they understand diamond exploration. Read the book about "secrecy" and "disinformation". Urban says it's his "bible". That would make it essential DD for an investor.
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Yea, puke eaters ! you read right. Dr D and the others at the top of the CMKX bullchit food chain, eat, puke, and/or defecate their bullchit, and the puke eaters gobble it up. and try to convince everyone it tastes good.

All I can say to that is "WOW". LMFAO
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Yea, puke eaters ! you read right. Dr D and the others at the top of the CMKX bullchit food chain, eat, puke, and/or defecate their bullchit, and the puke eaters gobble it up. and try to convince everyone it tastes good.

Were you saying I "mistook" you for the anti-christ? LOL
 
Posted by will on :
 
"Were you saying I "mistook" you for the anti-christ? LOL"

See, there you again, confusing insensitive honesty with hate.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Legaleagle:
quote:
Were you saying I "mistook" you for the anti-christ? LOL
Well, I'm not taking sides in this good vs. evil battle going on here but that was pretty funny. Isn't that called hitting the nail squarely on the head?
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
Anyone who doesn't know who Fipke is, could hardly say they understand diamond exploration. Read the book about "secrecy" and "disinformation". Urban says it's his "bible". That would make it essential DD for an investor.

What I know about diamond exploration is about the same I know about Einstein's Theory of Relativity. However, I do know a considerable amount about the stock market, and I'll say this: Maybe UC would get his nose out of his "bible" long enough to learn how to file financial reports and this crap wouldnt have gotten this far. Now all we have to look forward to is revocation, thanks to the fat man. What I've seen so far is two little diamond chips. Think maybe UC is reading the wrong chapter??
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Then again, maybe Fipke didnt lead everyone on with lies like UC did.....

Soon....close....to das moon....yeah, right !!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Upside wrote:
"Well, I'm not taking sides in this good vs. evil battle going on here but that was pretty funny. Isn't that called hitting the nail squarely on the head?"

You know pal, you're pretty good at not taking sides. You politaclly correct punk. There is one level of subhuman after the second echelon puke eaters. It is reserved for guys like you that have the conviction of punkass whimp.
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Upside wrote:
"Well, I'm not taking sides in this good vs. evil battle going on here but that was pretty funny. Isn't that called hitting the nail squarely on the head?"

You know pal, you're pretty good at not taking sides. You politaclly correct punk. There is one level of subhuman after the second echelon puke eaters. It is reserved for guys like you that have the conviction of punkass whimp.

Will, don't hold back! Tell us all how you REALLY feel. LOL
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well playin, I would have been more hateful if he wasn't my friend.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Will:
quote:
You know pal, you're pretty good at not taking sides. You politaclly correct punk. There is one level of subhuman after the second echelon puke eaters. It is reserved for guys like you that have the conviction of punkass whimp.
I'm not even in the top tier of "puke eaters"? Man, that hurts. You cut me there Will, you cut me deep.
 
Posted by will on :
 
"I'm not even in the top tier of "puke eaters"? Man, that hurts. You cut me there Will, you cut me deep."

You're like those little fish that swim around sharks and clean up eating their spittle. Or the other fish that clean parasites from other fish at a cleaning station.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Hotel Info: The Holiday Inn at 15 Gold Street is within walking distance of the rally and we have a discounted rate there of $200 (and change) per night including all taxes. Hotel Link HOLIDAY INN NEW YORK CITY HOTELS | MANHATTAN-WALL STREET DISTRICT | Official Hotel Site

W: More money to spend and legal's supporting it as he stated above. $200 + change (and that change includes, bell boys, tax and tips). Then comes the food part....probably at least another $100 or more. What else for the faithful fools?

Ric, perhaps you forgot that Jesus gave an example of three stewards who were to invest their masters money while he was gone. Two made investments that earned a good return and were rewarded. One hid the money and was criticized severely.

W: So making more money was the most important thing to Jesus? Didn't leave room for all the alternatives in his example, did he? What if one of the other two had lost money with his investment? What if the one who hid the money was hiding it so the other two wouldn't steal it? What if the other two lost all the money in their investments? Dumb ass example!!! Really thought he was a bit brighter!

[ July 19, 2005, 18:31: Message edited by: Wallace#1 ]
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
will,

What was that Upside said about "head"? Is he making advances again?

legal,

luv ya man!!! Idiot fool or not!
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
TN, betting CMKX is the longest living thread on Allstocks. QBID may be close, but long after QBID is gone, there will still be a CMKX thread, though it may be called by a different symbol (hint). Somethings take on a "life" of their own. LOL

Yep CMKX is just like a bad fungus [Big Grin]
 
Posted by will on :
 
"Yep CMKX is just like a bad fungus"

Like the one King Harod had, the guy from the Bible.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
WOW what happened to HISC down 30%? Wasn't that yesterday's pump. Better stick to bashing.

Not the least bit worried, legal. I got in at .004 some time ago. Even at today's close (which is bound to go up) I have made a killing. In fact, just like you faithful, I bought more at .09. BUY HISC. THAT WAS A PUMP!
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Hotel Info: The Holiday Inn at 15 Gold Street is within walking distance of the rally and we have a discounted rate there of $200 (and change) per night including all taxes. Hotel Link HOLIDAY INN NEW YORK CITY HOTELS | MANHATTAN-WALL STREET DISTRICT | Official Hotel Site

W: More money to spend and legal's supporting it as he stated above. $200 + change (and that change includes, bell boys, tax and tips). Then comes the food part....probably at least another $100 or more. What else for the faithful fools?

Ric, perhaps you forgot that Jesus gave an example of three stewards who were to invest their masters money while he was gone. Two made investments that earned a good return and were rewarded. One hid the money and was criticized severely.

W: So making more money was the most important thing to Jesus? Didn't leave room for all the alternatives in his example, did he? What if one of the other two had lost money with his investment? What if the one who hid the money was hiding it so the other two wouldn't steal it? What if the other two lost all the money in their investments? Dumb ass example!!! Really thought he was a bit brighter!

PS: Oh, and forgot about transportation, tolls, etc. How much more cost?
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Shhhh....dont let Richard Cranium learn about HISC....he might try to ruin it....
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Wallace the trip to NY is quite expensive, just like DC. But some people are willing to make the sacrifice to clean up the mess in the market, thank God. But I know, "They also serve, who sit and bitch."
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Will:
quote:
You're like those little fish that swim around sharks and clean up eating their spittle. Or the other fish that clean parasites from other fish at a cleaning station.
So now I'm a parasite eater at a cleaning station? Man, how low can I go?
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
Next thing, they will call you a lawyer for CMKX.

Is that low enough??
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
That's gotta be rock bottom. Even I'm not that low.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Or a CMKX pumper...now THAT's low....
 
Posted by will on :
 
I'm sure there is some filthy creature that cleans up the cleaning fish's waste, and that's right where you're heading, pal.

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Posted by Will:
quote:
You're like those little fish that swim around sharks and clean up eating their spittle. Or the other fish that clean parasites from other fish at a cleaning station.
So now I'm a parasite eater at a cleaning station? Man, how low can I go?

 
Posted by bullish_pennystocks on :
 
thursday is the judegement day
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Will, I have to ask a favor of you. Someday in the future when you're replying to someone here in your usual fit of rage, and you feel a tightness in your chest followed by clamp like pain, and your hands are just randomly hitting the keys typing meaningless letters, could you make sure your wife hits the reply button for you? I'll print that last post of yours out and read it when I deliver your eulogy. I'm sure I'll be asked to deliver it as to the best of my knowledge, there's no one else on the planet that actually likes you. Thanks.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bullish_pennystocks:
thursday is the judegement day

Acca said? Tick Toc
 
Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
Heres a classic

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=7035546
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
07/19/2005


Jeff Arend


Funny Car driver Jeff Arend and car owner Paul Smith no longer have a major sponsor following a mutual agreement to end their association with CMKX Diamonds following the 26th annual Mopar Mile-High NHRA Nationals in Denver. Arend and Smith have a complete and competitive turn-key Funny Car operation ready to go racing as soon as new funding can be acquired.


"I met with Urban Casavant in Las Vegas on Monday," said Arend, "and we decided that due to the ever escalating cost of running a race team at the level required to be competitive against today’s multi-car teams, it would be in everyone’s best interest to go our separate ways at this time."


Arend has enjoyed a successful 2005 NHRA POWERade Drag Racing season.

The 42-year-old Canadian native advanced to the final round in Bristol and made it to the semifinals in Chicago. Arend also qualified in the No. 2 spot in Englishtown with a career-best 4.792 at 322.19 mph. The former NHRA Funny Car national event champion also established himself as the best driver in the class at the starting line. Going into Denver, Arend had left first on his opponent 75 percent of the time during eliminations. He is currently 13th in the POWERade point standings, just 100 points out of the top 10.


"I want to extend my sincere thanks and gratitude to Urban Casavant for being instrumental in my return to racing a Funny Car," Arend said. "CMKX came on board with us early last year and with their help we’ve been able to build a solid, cohesive team that is capable of fielding a competitive and consistent running Funny Car. I also want to thank Vincent Ferrone from VF Trucking for all of his support this season. Paul Smith and I are still ready and willing to go racing at the drop of a hat, we just need to find the support to maintain and run our race car at the level needed to be competitive on the NHRA tour."


Urban Casavant commented from his Las Vegas home, "Jeff Arend, Paul Smith and the entire CMKXtreme Machine team have done a great job in representing us. It is an unfortunate situation but I feel at this time that it’s in the best interest of everyone involved."
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Bigrod,

I'm not about to touch that comment under the picture in that post. With your user ID, you better not either! LOL

legal,

"But I know, "They also serve, who sit and bitch."

Yeah, I know legal. Thought you did a bit of "sit" too from time to time.
 
Posted by bullish_pennystocks on :
 
why so many people are interested in a stock that has been already revoked by the judge?
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Well, it looks like UC can't sell more shares so now he can't afford his toy car. Got CMKX lol
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
"Urban Casavant commented from his Las Vegas home,..."
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And, by now, could be CMKX's new office again! In reality, it probably is anyway.
 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
"Urban Casavant commented from his Las Vegas home,..."
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And, by now, could be CMKX's new office again! In reality, it probably is anyway.

And I for one hope that he has a new address soon, somewhere that has a view with bars [Big Grin]
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
I don't think UC will go anywhere that you want him to go. I think UC has his claws in sggm and gemm and both of them are popping perhaps due to the cmkx crap. UC will still be profiting from all of this. And laughing all the way to the bank.
Too bad I didn't get some sggm and gemm when they were .0001.... but I sure wouldn't hold them past a month anyhow. Maybe that's too long considering so many sub penny stocks are baiting and switching.... "name change and incorporating another location then reverse splitting".
Maybe UC really is sort of dumb... because he could've reverse split himself right out of trouble. Then again, I think the shares have to exist to do that.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
stockster...at close yesterday the bid was .0001, the ask was .008 or .001 less then bid is today. it looks like it screamed today because the last trade yesterday was .0001 & the last today was a buy at ask of .014.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
like ric stated...no shares to sell no reason to pump at the races. UC might even have to account for the cash spent. i really hope cmkx files, i want to see how paying for that car is listed. a mining company with no mine but a huge ad budgit...only in america, anywhere else he would be in jail by now. i do agree with the cult on 1 point, the SEC failed the shareholders, cmkx should have been halted when they filed for that second extention & stated they were current in all filings. a lot of ppl would not have lost so much money, there would be no cult. on the bright side there would be no cmkx to bash thus we would have missed all this entertainment...lol
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
It's a regular paradox Bill. [Roll Eyes] LOL,has been fun.It could of been funner if by luck it would have panned out.That's what I was betting on,luck,(wich I had the benefit, some free shares) since I bought in this thing.Bill, I seen on PB, someones been tring to beat you over the head with their keyboard today.LOL

Hey Doc, if UC was to get out of this mess,do you think CMKX'll do what SGGM did today?j/k [Big Grin]

[ July 19, 2005, 21:46: Message edited by: Highwaychild ]
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Hwy,

Sure wish this thing had worked out for you.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Thanks, there's always a next one.
Lesson learned at least, buy on hype, sell on news.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i think i struck a nerve over there highway...lol but the cowards kicked me out. just can't stand having me post the fact that UC cheated them & me for that matter. i guess its another case proving the old saying...the truth hurts.
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
Oh yeah, And you can't fight City Hall.LOL
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
Weelll, sggm closed at .02 as far as I can tell.
$100 buy at .0001 is 1 million shares 2 days ago,
sell em today for 20000.00. Pretty good take for 2 days work I think. OF course. minus commissions and such.
S5
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Hey, I just went to PB32 to check posts, and guess what? They banned me too !!!!!
So much for freedom of speech.
I wont miss their swill anyway, especially legal's. This thing will be dead in a few days anyway. On to HISC, NCDP and other money makers.
Long life to UC, may he rot in jail for at least 50 years.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
ed, you are in honorable company! Congrats!
 
Posted by will on :
 
"they are not worthy of any pearls either you, I or anyone else may cast before swine."

You're getting eloquent, Wallace. I like that !

...and I don't use prfanity either, never have. lol
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
And I didnt use any bad words either, unless you count SCAM as a bad word....ROFL....
Good riddance to bad rubbish, by removing them from my favorites, I'll save valuable drive space....
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well thanks guys...i'm proud to be a member of the allstocks bashing crew & stated as much a few times over there. by the way just found something on the Sask. halt of CMKX i had not seen before...


This week regulators in Canada and the U.S. stood up and took notice of the unusual trading patterns that had been fueled by relentless hype. On October 26, 2004, the Saskatchewan Financial Services Commission issued a Temporary Order halting trading of CMKM stock until November 9th. The Temporary Order also suspended trading in shares of CMKM's affiliate, Casavant Mining Kimberlite International, and put a halt to securities trades by Urban Casavant (CMKM's President), David Desormeau (a one time, and perhaps present, director of CMKM) and Melvin A. O'Neil (CMKM's press contact).


The Temporary Order charges that Casavant, Desormeau and O'Neill made statements that contained misrepresentations in connection with their trades of CMKM stock that were neither properly registered nor exempted from registration. The Temporary Order may be extended beyond November 9th if the Commission does not receive satisfactory answers to its questions.

i guess uncle mel wasn't so squeaky clean. remember when this thread started a collection for his wife? & here he was selling unregistered securities. by the way isn't canada 1 of the big jump off points for naked shorting??? might it be the increases in o/s were to cover insider shorting in canada???
 
Posted by Highwaychild on :
 
stockster5, just yesterday there were 2 odd trades that would have netted pretty good cash today.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
actually this article is a bit old but has some great points to it...some of which i never saw before. its about the buddy buddy chit between these clowns.


http://www.stockpatrol.com/article/key/CMKM6
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
wallace, if they even think its you posting all he11 will break out. they know you quite well over there & were quick to point out we were buddies. i'm guessing you might get 5 or 6 posts in if your quick before you get flushed...lol
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Hell, bill, I don't give a damn. I would not lower myself to honor them with my presence or my intelligence. Their IQs must all be around 1 to 10.

PS: It wouldn't matter anyway. With their required agreement, I am sure the only ones who can post without proof is themselves. Then, the next requirement is that one agrees with them wholeheartedly whether the facts disagree with their positions or not.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well nite folks..long day tomorrow wrapped around another 300 mile drive. in fact including my 350 mile drive today i have about 15 more 300 mile drive days wrapped around 7 hrs of work. i need 1 of those single seater helicopters with a 150 mile per hr speed


wallace thanks for the back up. it was only a matter of time. as was pointed out to me many times, i brought nothing positive to their board. they didn't like my reply that there was nothing positive about cmkx to bring to their board....lol
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
bill,

For the very first time I went to that PB32 forum and saw what was said. The one that really should hang his head in shame is legaleagle(aka noahltl and James B). To have said you did not present facts is an outright lie and he knows it. And, if I remember correctly, he said he is some kind of Moderator there. If anything like the CT forum where he's a "Super Administrator", the title permits him to be a "Super Liar".

That fool doesn't know a fact when it slaps him in the face. I know you tried to bring reality, fact and reason to them. The problem is, they are truly in the dark and always will be as far as CMKX is concerned. They degrade themselves by being part of and posting on that site. What a bunch of azzholes....and I did read quite a few of their half-witted posts.

I was tempted to post, but changed my mind because they are not worthy of any pearls either you, I or anyone else may cast before swine.

Legal doesn't know a fact when he sees one. What he sees he distorts or makes big secrets of.
I noticed you stated you do not use profanity. I use some and freely admit it, but try to temper it and keep it on the mild side. There is no word or words in all levels of profanity to describe the level of the scum on that board.

Be proud you did your duty and try to enlighten the ignorant mass there.

Wallace you have reached a new low in personal bashing.

Wallace: "To have said you did not present facts is an outright lie and he knows it."

On Bill's "Faithful vs Basher" thread, noahltl made one post. Here it is:

noahltl
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Re: Faithful vs. Basher
« Reply #10 on Jul 17, 2005, 10:41am »

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I have been listening and responding to bill's complaints for about a year now at Allstocks. It's always the same. He and a few others over there have a "messiah complex". They just want to "save us" from ourselves. They whined and complained and bashed individuals for so long over there, that most of the longs just left the board.

Since there are no longer any longs there to save from themselves, bill has become active here. He's really a pretty nice guy after you get over the same old "chant" of 703 billion, 703 billion, 703 billion. My hopes are that if he visits here enough he may discover that there is more to this company than meets the eye. He really hasn't had much of a chance to think about anything other than "negative" since that is the only "diet" allowed at Allstocks without attack.

BTW bill, your thoughts about jumping back into CMKX have one problem. If the stock is "locked down" by revocation, you won't be able to get back in. Time's running out for you, IMO.
« Last Edit: Jul 17, 2005, 10:41am by noahltl »


And no he has never been a moderator or Admin at PB32 or said he was, but what's a little lie if it supports your hatred for a board that doesn't tolerate the bs that flows so freely here.

I also noticed that you had to come out from under your rock one more time to take a shot at the CT board. Admit it Wallace, it's not CT or me you hate, it is Christianity in general. This is just a convenient forum for you to spew that kind of hatred under the banner of simply being anti-CMKX. But it has gone on long enough now that I am sure even your merry men have been able to identify exactly what your agenda is here. It's hatred, pure and simple. Neither CT nor I can make up for whatever kind of hurt was done to you by a "Christian" or in the name of Christianity, but that kind of hatred is totally out of place on a stock board like this.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
"they are not worthy of any pearls either you, I or anyone else may cast before swine."

You're getting eloquent, Wallace. I like that !

...and I don't use prfanity either, never have. lol

Actually Wallace was using a quote from Jesus. Kinda ironic, huh?
 
Posted by BCmouser on :
 
I find it even more disgusting that some of these cultists even try to slip christianity on the side of this scam. Stealing is a sin - and matter how you slice it , UC and the boys stole your money and bought mansions , jade and funnycars. If you think he is holier than the rest of the cons out there you are sadly mistaken as are the rest of the CMKX koolaid crowd. Finally the CMKX circus is being put to rest. And hopefully justice will be done again when investors start class action suits against UC. JMHO
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
well thanks guys...i'm proud to be a member of the allstocks bashing crew & stated as much a few times over there. by the way just found something on the Sask. halt of CMKX i had not seen before...


This week regulators in Canada and the U.S. stood up and took notice of the unusual trading patterns that had been fueled by relentless hype. On October 26, 2004, the Saskatchewan Financial Services Commission issued a Temporary Order halting trading of CMKM stock until November 9th. The Temporary Order also suspended trading in shares of CMKM's affiliate, Casavant Mining Kimberlite International, and put a halt to securities trades by Urban Casavant (CMKM's President), David Desormeau (a one time, and perhaps present, director of CMKM) and Melvin A. O'Neil (CMKM's press contact).


The Temporary Order charges that Casavant, Desormeau and O'Neill made statements that contained misrepresentations in connection with their trades of CMKM stock that were neither properly registered nor exempted from registration. The Temporary Order may be extended beyond November 9th if the Commission does not receive satisfactory answers to its questions.

i guess uncle mel wasn't so squeaky clean. remember when this thread started a collection for his wife? & here he was selling unregistered securities. by the way isn't canada 1 of the big jump off points for naked shorting??? might it be the increases in o/s were to cover insider shorting in canada???

Bill really good DD there. A nine month old Hartley Bernstein "Stock Patrol" article.

But you really should know who is publishing things before you tout them:


LAWYER HARTLEY BERNSTEIN BARRED FROM OFFERINGS OF PENNY STOCK AND DENIED
PRIVILEGE OF APPEARING OR PRACTICING BEFORE THE COMMISSION

Today the Commission issued an Order instituting and settling
administrative proceedings against Hartley T. Bernstein, an attorney
who formerly was a partner in the New York City law firm Bernstein
& Wasserman, LLP. Bernstein consented to the Order without
admitting or denying the Commission's findings that he willfully
violated Section 17(a) of the Securities Act of 1933, Section 10(b)
of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and Rule 10b-5 thereunder,
and a finding that he was previously enjoined from future violations
of those provisions. The Order bars Bernstein from participating in
any offering of penny stock pursuant to Section 15(b)(6) of the
Exchange Act and denies him the privilege of appearing or practicing
before the Commission pursuant to Rule 102(e) of the Commission's
Rules of Practice. The Commission found that, with respect to
public offerings of securities by five issuers, Bernstein was a
selling shareholder who had preoffering agreements to sell his
securities, including penny stock, at below-market prices to the
underwriters of the offerings. The Commission found that Bernstein
& Wasserman was counsel to the issuers and that Bernstein knew or
was reckless in not knowing that the prospectuses for the five
offerings were materially false and misleading in that they did not
disclose his agreements. The Commission's Order follows a
Commission injunctive action against Bernstein based on the same
conduct, which he also settled without admitting or denying the
Commission's allegations by agreeing to the injunction referred to
above. See SEC v. Hartley T. Bernstein, 99 Civ. 3885, S.D.N.Y., May
27, 1999, LR-16163 May 27, 1999. (Rel. 34-41656; File No. 3-9939)
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BCmouser:
I find it even more disgusting that some of these cultists even try to slip christianity on the side of this scam. Stealing is a sin - and matter how you slice it , UC and the boys stole your money and bought mansions , jade and funnycars. If you think he is holier than the rest of the cons out there you are sadly mistaken as are the rest of the CMKX koolaid crowd. Finally the CMKX circus is being put to rest. And hopefully justice will be done again when investors start class action suits against UC. JMHO

BC, I'm sure you have complete documentation to back that up.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
You know what, Legal? I wish there was a way to have you banned from this board. If PB32 can ban people only for their opinions, then you should not be allowed to post here. You are the only pumper who comes here.
It doesnt matter because in a few days the revocation will become final and eventually CMKX will go away. Just a matter of time and PB32 will close down and nobody will talk about this scam anymore except in the context of history.

I can only hope that someday you will all get what is coming to you, not only for the pumping but for abridging our freedom of speech.

That being said, I will probably quit posting on this thread too. No reason to talk about the dead. There are too many GOOD stocks out there to be worried about this POS anymore.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
legal,

You of all people should know what a new low is. You meet those requirements almost every time you post anywhere.

You turkeys love to say someone hates or was hurt, huh. That was said to bill too over on PB32. There is no substance to you people on either CT or PB32 or any of those pro forums. You cannot think for yourselves. Whenever you even try, you get things all fkd up in your minds.

Enough said, legal. I have lost all respect for your thoughts and ideas.

As far as the religion you and people on the CT forum practice is concerned, you can keep it. You have no idea what a good, kind, caring, faithful, religious person is or could represent. STUFF IT!!!!

PS: And you DID say bill was not posting facts. If I remember correctly it was under the ID of James B or noah. If not, just call me mistaken....or even a liar if you wish.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
You know what, Legal? I wish there was a way to have you banned from this board. If PB32 can ban people only for their opinions, then you should not be allowed to post here. You are the only pumper who comes here.
It doesnt matter because in a few days the revocation will become final and eventually CMKX will go away. Just a matter of time and PB32 will close down and nobody will talk about this scam anymore except in the context of history.

I can only hope that someday you will all get what is coming to you, not only for the pumping but for abridging our freedom of speech.

That being said, I will probably quit posting on this thread too. No reason to talk about the dead. There are too many GOOD stocks out there to be worried about this POS anymore.

ed, at the bottom of each post, there is a little symbol and "report this post". Click it on one my posts, and you can write directly to Bob Frey with all of your complaints.
 
Posted by will on :
 
C'mon ed, I know you have little use for CMKX, and no regard for legal, but you want to ban him? Stop yourself, quit being so selfish. Did you break your toys when you were a kid? Look at Wallace's post above. Now who else can rile him like that? I dislike legal's carrying ons too, I dislike his second echelon promoting and pumping, but if there's no legal then I'll have to turn on you, Wallace, Upside.... just to keep things interesting. LOL
legal, I don't want you banned, you can offer your puke anytime.

quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
You know what, Legal? I wish there was a way to have you banned from this board. If PB32 can ban people only for their opinions, then you should not be allowed to post here. You are the only pumper who comes here.
It doesnt matter because in a few days the revocation will become final and eventually CMKX will go away. Just a matter of time and PB32 will close down and nobody will talk about this scam anymore except in the context of history.

I can only hope that someday you will all get what is coming to you, not only for the pumping but for abridging our freedom of speech.

That being said, I will probably quit posting on this thread too. No reason to talk about the dead. There are too many GOOD stocks out there to be worried about this POS anymore.


 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
I, for one, do not believe in banning....unless it is someone like your friend and deputy JBCak (aka byrdturd and everything else). I am sure most here remember his being invited to join the CT board by Debi, others and maybe even yourself.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
I, for one, do not believe in banning....unless it is someone like your friend and deputy JBCak (aka byrdturd and everything else). I am sure most here remember his being invited to join the CT board by Debi, others and maybe even yourself.

Wallace you are so full of it. the byrd has never posted at CT. He left here to start a USCI board, and posts at PB32. The type of vile things he said here were not welcome, and they certainly wouldn't be welcome at CT. But, of course, if it suits your agenda just say whatever you want. Truth has no importance to you, and facts have little relevance.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
first legal, i stated it was old. second i was told & banned for what was called slanderous statements i.e. UC cheated shareholders, this artilce names the ppl that commited what Sask called illegal trades. to do so must mean he read the report from Sask or else he would be liable for slander. the fact you dont like the guy has nothing to do with it. i don't like UC, i think he is crooked but when he makes a statement that can be backed up with fact i have to except it as true. if you take the time to read the entire article you would see that the info in it is backed by fact. like the comment from UC when he was with perto plus about visible gold in an ore sample that was shortly before UC was broomed from petro plus & sounds a lot like statements from uncle mel. this is opinion but i'd say UC found his master plan at petro plus.
 
Posted by will on :
 
I wish you would bring debbie back , noah, you know that woman of high moral stature, and Van, that goof. I don't think most people understood half of what he wrote, himself included.
Bring 'em all back, let's have some real fun.
Oh yea, and keep buying more CMKX, you're running out of time.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
bill, it's not a matter of liking or disliking Hartley Berstein. He was banned from trading for manipulating pink stocks. That's why I posted the decision, it's about proof, not personal likes or dislikes. I posted the proof of what kind of guy Bernstein is, and your post revolves around the reliability of this guy and his yellow journalism rag.

I will give you that there was illegal trading going on. That is the whole point of the "premerger syndicate" and the sellers info that phxgold exposed. We know there was illegal trading by these insiders in an attempt to take over the company, but that doesn't reflect on Urban or Melvin. However there was a third person charged up there, Desormeau. The two year CMKX CFO that our SEC failed to subpoena.

Melvin had little idea what was going on with the company, any more than Andy does now. The second part of that Sask charge was "pumping". That is why Melvin was included. His Mt St Helens comments and others are being reviewed. But, if it does go off like Mt St Helens, then he wasn't wrong was he?
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
You know what, Legal? I wish there was a way to have you banned from this board. If PB32 can ban people only for their opinions, then you should not be allowed to post here. You are the only pumper who comes here.
It doesnt matter because in a few days the revocation will become final and eventually CMKX will go away. Just a matter of time and PB32 will close down and nobody will talk about this scam anymore except in the context of history.

I can only hope that someday you will all get what is coming to you, not only for the pumping but for abridging our freedom of speech.

That being said, I will probably quit posting on this thread too. No reason to talk about the dead. There are too many GOOD stocks out there to be worried about this POS anymore.

ed, at the bottom of each post, there is a little symbol and "report this post". Click it on one my posts, and you can write directly to Bob Frey with all of your complaints.
You're not worth the time it would take.
Have fun.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Will:
quote:
I'll have to turn on you, Wallace, Upside.... just to keep things interesting
Ummm, didn't you take care of that yesterday, at least in regards to me, pal?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if Desormeau knew so much good stuff about cmkx why didn't stocklien call him? hakala stated she had illegal trading proof but did not bring such proof because the court hearing was not about that, it was about filing. now had it been about trading i'm sure he would have been called. what melvin knew about cmkx has nothing to do with selling shares illegally. but the fact that he used UC's petro plus line about core samples in 1 of his PT chats SHOULD wake ppl up. you say UC is a christian man, he has lied over & over again & each lie is in black & white, in prs, recordings, filings with the SEC. those around him have mislead ppl. they say 1 bad apple spoils a barrel, well UC's lies have caused a large number of honest ppl to lie to themselves & others in their posts on differant boards.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
if Desormeau knew so much good stuff about cmkx why didn't stocklien call him? hakala stated she had illegal trading proof but did not bring such proof because the court hearing was not about that, it was about filing. now had it been about trading i'm sure he would have been called. what melvin knew about cmkx has nothing to do with selling shares illegally. but the fact that he used UC's petro plus line about core samples in 1 of his PT chats SHOULD wake ppl up. you say UC is a christian man, he has lied over & over again & each lie is in black & white, in prs, recordings, filings with the SEC. those around him have mislead ppl. they say 1 bad apple spoils a barrel, well UC's lies have caused a large number of honest ppl to lie to themselves & others in their posts on differant boards.

If it were about trading he would have been called??? bill he was the CFO, this was about reporting. Of course he should have been called. He took care of the books that were in question. Stoecklein didn't call him for a few reasons. One reason was that it wasn't up to CMKX to prove anything, it was up to the SEC. Secondly, Desormeau's testimony would have led directly into the pre-merger syndicate and the "sellers" who could not be discussed or revealed under the forebearance agreement, without losing the company. They can only be revealed in a court of competent jurisdiction like a court of appeals. (hint) Otherwise the company would be lost to them.

It is obvious that the SEC had much to gain by at least deposing him. But for some reason they did not want the CFO's testimony to be revealed. If you want to understand what is going on, you really have to decide why the SEC didn't want the "best" financial witness to testify in a case that was all about "reporting" financials.

And I have never said that UC was a Christian. I have no idea if he is or not. I did hear that he became more spiritual after his stroke, but "spiritual" can have many connotations.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
WALLACE APPARENTLY THIS IS THE POSTER YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, BUT SORRY NOT ME. YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTED THAT THE POSTER IS FROM FLA. HOWEVER, IT IS A POST WORTHY OF REPEATING:

JamesRB53
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FACTS and bill1352
« Thread Started on Yesterday at 7:37pm »

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James, everything in my posts on this thread come direct from either pr’s or the court proceedings. Look up the January 2003 pr about 650K acres of claims, all CMKX pr’s are on this board. The pr's state which claims are owned & by what companies and the % each holds. The USCA & SGGM deals are also PR’ed listing what CMKX gave them for shares & cash. The 2003 form 15 problem is in the court transcripts & the judges ruling. What I've said about CMKX never giving the second GEMM divvy a pay date is found on this link...


http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=cmkx


read the fine print at the bottom of each GEMM divvy it refers you to the original divvy dates. All lead back to the first divvy. Not 1 thing I have posted isn't fact except my opinion about whether UC cheated us or not & the stated facts are what formed my opinion.


First I want you to know that I am about to HANG YOU OUT TO DRY and you deserve it.
You wrote:
James, everything in my posts on this thread come direct from either pr’s or the court proceedings. Look up the January 2003 pr about 650K acres of claims, all CMKX pr’s are on this board. The pr's state which claims are owned & by what companies and the % each holds.

Well guess what there are no Pr’s from January 2003 which say anything about 650 thousand acres of claims --- December 2002 has some that talk about the total of 1.9 Million acres of claims/OPTIONS available to the Company --- and the end of February the Company mentions 700 Thousand acres the GEOTEM SURVEY was to cover in its initial run. Great DD
Did you perhaps mean the DEF 14C FILED WITH THE SEC---in which you will find this

Purpose and Effect of the Board of Directors Election
In November 25, 2002 the Company agreed to acquire the Casavant Family Mineral Claims in certain kimberlite deposits located in the Province of Saskatchewan, Canada. The Mineral Claims were held in the name of five companies owned directly and/or beneficially by the Casavant Family and Morgain Minerals, Inc. (a company held by third parties with the claims under option). These companies include Commando Holdings, Ltd., Buckshot Holdings, Ltd., 101010307 Saskatchewan Ltd., 101012190 Saskatchewan Ltd., and 101027101 Saskatchewan Ltd. In addition, Fort a la Corne Diamond Fields, Inc. acted as the claims and exploration manager for the five companies above, as well as, the claims held by Morgain Minerals, Inc. Each of these companies have agreed to transfer 100% of the Mineral Claims to the Company in accordance with the Mineral Disposition Regulations of Saskatchewan, 1986.
On October 28, 2002, Fort a la Corne Diamond Fields, Inc. completed a report on the five parcels of mineral claims held by Commando Holdings, Ltd., Buckshot Holdings, Ltd., 101010307 Saskatchewan Ltd., 101012190 Saskatchewan Ltd., and 101027101 Saskatchewan Ltd. The report also covered the claims of Morgain Minerals, Inc. All of the parcels were registered between March 2001 and March 2002 as listed in Table 1.

Table 1 (1)
Registered Owner Area(2) Due Date (3) Paid Cnd USDollar
Buckshot Holdings Ltd. (50%)
Commando Holdings Ltd. (50%) 78,177 March 2 and 9, 2003 $938,124 $614,037
101010307 Saskatchewan Ltd. 70,427 May 11, 2003 $845,124 $553,165
101012190 Saskatchewan Ltd. 81,568 August 16, 2003 $978,816 $640,629
101027101 Saskatchewan Ltd. 8,320 March 20, 2004 $ 99,840 $ 65,345
Morgain Minerals Inc. (4) 9,216 March 20, 2004 $110,592 $ 72,382
Total 247,708 $1,945,987
(1) Table 1 was prepared by P. Robershaw, P. Geo. for Fort a la Corne Diamond Fields, Inc. in connection with the properties.
(2) 1 hectare equals 2.46 acres with 247, 708 hectares equaling 609,361.68 acres.
(3) Based on U.S. Dollar/Canadian Dollar exchange rates, the amounts paid for the claims equals $1,945,987.00 USD as of January 30, 2002 exchange rates, but were valued at $2,000,000 USD on the date of the merger which is November 25, 2002.
(4) The claims of Morgain Minerals Inc. are under option, but are included.
The claims comprise a substantial and largely contiguous land position in a favorable exploration setting in the vicinity of the Fort a la Corne kimberlite bodies. In all, the properties consist of 636 claims with a total area of 247,708 hectares (611,625 acres). The 5 properties are located in central Saskatchewan within 100 kilometers of the City of Prince Albert and are largely accessible by road. Mineral dispositions in Saskatchewan are administered by the Saskatchewan Industry and Resources ("SIR"). The properties fall entirely within the surveyed portion of the Province of Saskatchewan.
Here is the URL for the complete DEF 14C;
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1092299/000111776803000002/schedule.htm

Could this not be it, as it’s only for 611,625 acres?
Again I fail to see any breakdown as to who owns what because, as I live and breathe could it be, UC owns or controls all and has an option on Morgain Minerals, Inc.


NEXT

The USCA & SGGM deals are also PR’ed listing what CMKX gave them for shares & cash.

You are correct and here they are:

CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Dividend to Shareholders of Record Date and Option Agreement
7/18/2004
DENVER--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 18, 2004--CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX - News) is pleased to have reached a purchase agreement with U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. (OTC BB:UCAD - News) to which U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. will be purchasing 5% of all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in exchange for 7.5 million shares of UCAD. CMKM Diamonds, Inc. will later issue these shares to all shareholders of record on August 20, 2004.

In addition, UCAD has a 1 year option agreement to purchase an additional 10% interest of all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc. for a total of $15 million U.S. dollars payable to CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Mr. Rendall Williams, CEO for UCAD, stated: "Having the opportunity to have worked with the management of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. on the Carolyn Pipe and on the Goldak Airborne surveys, we are looking to move aggressively forward in building shareholder value for
both companies."

Urban Casavant, CEO CMKM Diamonds, Inc., stated: "We are looking to move forward as a team in order to create a winning formula for success of both companies as well as their shareholders!" More details will be released in future news releases.

Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: The statements, other than the statements of historical facts, may be deemed to contain forward-looking statements with respect to events, the occurrence of which involves risks and uncertainties, including, without limitation, demand and competition for the Company's products and services, the availability to the Company of adequate financing to support its anticipated activities, the ability of the Company to generate cash flow from operations and the ability of the Company to manage its operations.
CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces $10,000,000 Joint Venture Agreement
9/2/2004 : LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 2, 2004--CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX - News) is pleased to announce that the Company has finalized a joint venture agreement where St. George Metals, Inc. (Pink Sheets: SGGM - News) will purchase a 5% unencumbered and absolute interest in any and all mineral claims held by CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in consideration for $10,000,000 US Dollars and two hundred billion (200,000,000,000) restricted shares of SGGM. The Company has received a $2,500,000 payment with three additional payments of $2,500,000 anticipated within the next 30 days.

Yep the Company looks like they Gave up 20% of all their claims---BUT DID THEY---All insiders hold stock in the Company-7.5 Million shares issued as a dividend to all stockholders so a significant % of what ever those claims may produce in the future will come back to CMKX stockholders thru the UCAD/USCA stock dividend---THEN WE HAVE SGGM---Since the Company still holds the 200 Billion shares that SGGM issued them for their 5% stake in all mineral rights that means the company will receive 22.22% of what ever those mineral rights will produce. Is this worth the price to obtain the working partnership of a company with an operational smelter, who knows yet but it sure beats having to buy and setup one of our own---Is it worth 5% to have a fallback vehicle ready and waiting in case of an emergency, who knows but I bet it beats not having one with the net outstretched.

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2003 form 15 problem is in the court transcripts & the judges ruling.

Again you are correct, BUT---
Why did it take a year and a half for the SEC to contact CMKX’s Counsel about the non filing status of their Client and then complain about the Company taking less than two months to file an amended form 15. I am still researching but if it turns out that restricted stock issued to foreign nationals by US companies for work performed or allowed on land they own is exempt from being reported on the SHAREHOLDERS OF RECORD list then the number of record drops to 338 from 698 and then there would need to be a search to see if others fall into same category but it’s a lot better looking. As far as the Judges ruling, well let’s put it this way, she could only rule on what was brought before her. It is not the Judges job to present the Prosecution or Defenses case, just to rule according to what’s presented so I think she ruled accordingly. That doesn’t mean it can’t be overturned in appeal. This is what I’m researching: Securities offered and sold outside the United States in accordance with Regulation S need not be registered under the Act. See Release No. 33-6863. Regulation S may be relied upon for such offers and sales even if coincident offers and sales are made in accordance with Regulation D inside the United States. Thus, for example, persons who are offered and sold securities in accordance with Regulation S would not be counted in the calculation of the number of purchasers under Regulation D. Similarly, proceeds from such sales would not be included in the aggregate offering price. The provisions of this note, however, do not apply if the issuer elects to rely solely on Regulation D for offers or sales to persons made outside the United States. STILL DOING DD-----

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What I've said about CMKX never giving the second GEMM divvy a pay date is found on this link...
You should look and read before you post or just don’t post and save us the trouble of pointing out every mistake you make---ACCORDING TO YOUR LINK THE PAYOUT LISTED FOR THE 2ND GEMM DIVY WAS TO BE ACCORDING TO THE LITTLE BOX TOP RIGHT 12-10-04 AND THE INFORMATION ON THE BOTTOM REFERS TO THE FORMULA FOR PAYOUT AND INFORMS US THAT THIS IS THE 2ND REVISION. Therefore if I was a betting man (and I am) I bet there will yet be at least a 3rd and maybe a 4th revision of pay date before the divvy is issued.


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Not 1 thing I have posted isn't fact except my opinion about whether UC cheated us or not & the stated facts are what formed my opinion.----In that case I assume you will revise your opinion of UC since you had all your FACTS not quite in a row. Also notice that other than your FACT FINDING ability I have treated you with the same Humane and courteous demeanor that I extend to all living things. Please reconsider your character Sniping of UC until known for sure and FACTUAL.

I hope you have paid attention so you know how to present FACTS found thru DD and without prejudice…..well maybe some.


HAVE A NICE DAY


Jim
 
Posted by will on :
 
WOW! What a condenscending prick that guy is . LOL
Hey bill, you better learn how to present your facts, bucko !
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
Can we get back to bashing CMKX, its getting kinda hard to follow the bashing of each other [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
OK with me, playin. Just fed up with that pile of crap and what he says vs what he is and does.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Why make us choose? Let's do both. LOL

quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:
Can we get back to bashing CMKX, its getting kinda hard to follow the bashing of each other [Big Grin]


 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by :

Wallace isn't bill capable of answering my post by himself?
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
quote:
Originally posted by :

Wallace isn't bill capable of answering my post by himself?
I am sure he is capable. Problem is that he is being too damn gentle with your sort as far as I am concerned and your bile has pushed me just a bit too far. Get real and sensible and you won't get hammered or beaten on.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Who says we don't have a kind hearted thread here? Just take a look at some of the complimentary terms we've used to describe one another, all in the last 24 hours. Ahh, there's no place like home!


Posted by a bunch of us:
quote:
the Anti-Christ, puke eaters, defecate their bullchit, thanks to the fat man, subhuman, punkass whimp, eating their spittle, a bad fungus, Richard Cranium, sit and bitch, parasite eater, filthy creature, there's no one else on the planet that actually likes you, bad rubbish, halfwits, hit in the mouth with a pile of sh:t, STUFF IT, a condenscending prick, pile of crap, bile.

 
Posted by Doctoall on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Who says we don't have a kind hearted thread here? Just take a look at some of the complimentary terms we've used to describe one another, all in the last 24 hours. Ahh, there's no place like home!


Posted by a bunch of us:
quote:
the Anti-Christ, puke eaters, defecate their bullchit, thanks to the fat man, subhuman, punkass whimp, eating their spittle, a bad fungus, Richard Cranium, sit and bitch, parasite eater, filthy creature, there's no one else on the planet that actually likes you, bad rubbish, halfwits, hit in the mouth with a pile of sh:t, STUFF IT, a condenscending prick, pile of crap, bile.

Geez, sounds like a family reunion [Big Grin]
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
some people can dish it out...

and some people can take it...

some can't [Big Grin]
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
quote:
Originally posted by :

Wallace isn't bill capable of answering my post by himself?
I am sure he is capable. Problem is that he is being too damn gentle with your sort as far as I am concerned and your bile has pushed me just a bit too far. Get real and sensible and you won't get hammered or beaten on.
You call your responses "hammering"? They are just rantings and ravings. You couldn't begin to engage in serious debate. LOL Really into yourself aren't you?
 
Posted by will on :
 
My God man, who says such vulgar and vile things.
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
no friggin cwybabies....
 
Posted by Prdponce on :
 


[ July 20, 2005, 12:38: Message edited by: Prdponce ]
 
Posted by Prdponce on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Prdponce:
The final draft have been reviewed and it is on it ways to the publisher. It will hit the shelves shortly after R-Day , revocation day that is.

For the last year and one half I have read and copy / pasted all your comments in the writing of this book. "CMKX SCAM of the Century" from Prison guard to Miliionaire to prisoner.

Thanks and all the credits to the poster of this thread.. You all will be paid 1 Billion shares in certitificate form... too bad by the time you get it I will be revoked. ROTFLMAO...

Keep on the fighthing till the end.....

And of course this is just a jokeeeeeee.



 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
You know what, Legal? I wish there was a way to have you banned from this board. If PB32 can ban people only for their opinions, then you should not be allowed to post here. You are the only pumper who comes here.
It doesnt matter because in a few days the revocation will become final and eventually CMKX will go away. Just a matter of time and PB32 will close down and nobody will talk about this scam anymore except in the context of history.

I can only hope that someday you will all get what is coming to you, not only for the pumping but for abridging our freedom of speech.

That being said, I will probably quit posting on this thread too. No reason to talk about the dead. There are too many GOOD stocks out there to be worried about this POS anymore.

No L/E isn't the only one here,,, I am here too. If it is a POS then move on. And talk about banning.......Wallace Complains and moans and gets people banned because they buck up to him and beat him down. Isn't personal attacks why some of the "Pumpers" were banned. why was JB banned,,,huh wallace, answer that? what about SVTCOBRA, remember that fella do you Wallace. I know him he is on PB 32 he has no problems there. Must be you that causes the problems. Dont save us from ourselves, just save your breath (oxygen is expensive isnt it, i wouldnt want you to waste any). we dont want your opinion if we want it we will ask. how is your neighbor. been helping them lately?
COBRA
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
You'll just get banned here again, COBRA. They will find you as before.

All of legal's deputies have either been banned or left because they could not handle the truth. You are no exception.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
We're under attack! Incoming ICBM, no, make that IPBM! Maybe the good Dr. will show up.
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
they will find me as before? I dont understand,,, why would they be looking for me, i havnt done anything wrong,,,, but you, you have been personally attacking members for a long time>> why havnt you been banned. Oh i forgot, its kinda like cops and robbers.... the Snitches never get charges they are allowed to roam free as long as the info keeps rolling in. Hows life treating you wallace? is everything well. I know i am well, fit and happy! Just breathing a sigh of relief that even if i am not rich, at least i have my health! Have a nice day friend.
COBRACOBRA
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
You'll just get banned here again, COBRA. They will find you as before.

All of legal's deputies have either been banned or left because they could not handle the truth. You are no exception.

That's funny Wallace. They left because they couldn't stand your malicious drivel, day and night. They are serious investors and go where people talk about stock instead of each other....A place where real DD is done and discussed, not libelous bashing and innuendo.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Big difference Cobra. Wallace & Legal go back and forth daily and yes, Wallace will call him a fool, pigheaded, etc. but it doesn't come close to what you just posted. You're sinking to the bottom to attack someones health issues. Can't debate someone with your intelligence so you sling schoolyard shots at him? Says a lot about you.
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
I am not attacking his health i simply state that i am glad i am healthy. I am sorry if that is offensive to you,,,,I wish health on everyone i know. Without health -money is nothing. I whole heartedly believe it. As a matter of fact, i even wish it on those that i dont really like! Have a nice day friend.
COBRACOBRA
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by cobracobra:
quote:
I am not attacking his health i simply state that i am glad i am healthy.
No you're not. You're attacking him on what is apparently the only level you're capable of, friend.
 
Posted by toddr545 on :
 
Here we go again, puds, all of you, just a bunch of puds [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by toddr545:
Here we go again, puds, all of you, just a bunch of puds [Roll Eyes]

YEAH!! LOL
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
That reminds me, I've gotta get those "I'm a CMKX pud" shirts printed up.
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
Hello Upside, I hope you will include me in the distribution circle of your planned clothing line. I would like to have one, i will wear it with honor. then everyone will know i am a CMKX pud, and that you spent your hard earned money on bashing a "worthless" stock. I hope it doesn't clash with my flamed out CMKX hat. I spend my money on things i believe in, like this stock. You spend money on things you DON'T believe in? why would you do that. it doesnt make sense. Oh well have a nice day my friend.
COBRACOBRA
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
I bought the stock on what was hype the first time around and a second time when I felt a run was imminent. I was wrong in buying it both times for an average price of .00035 and wound up bag holding. At no time did I believe this was a real company nor did I intend to stay in it for more than a few days, that's the essence of trading, friend.
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
this is why we all fight? you bought to swing it, i bought to hold it. I believe it is viable you do not. if you dont think it is viable why worry about it, drop it and move on. All these people wanting to tell me i am wrong for holding and hoping for the big move up. I think it could move, if you don't oh well. It's play money, my play money, why worry about my excess loot? If i drank it away you wouldn't be bashing guiness would you? As you said it is the essence of trading. Where were all of the concernned people when i lost a few grand in MLON. Even if they told me to drop it, i make my decisions and others dont influence them.
COBRACOBRA
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Yes, I would bash you for drinking Guiness, I don't care for it.
There's a flip side to your "all these people want to tell me I am wrong" argument. Isn't that EXACTLY what you do on your home board when someone expresses a negative viewpoint? Actually, I guess I'm wrong there, you ban them. You ask why we still discuss it here if we don't own it or have written it off? What is the purpose of these message boards? The exchange of advice both good and bad for people who seek it. There is a core group here who are adamant that this is a scam and express those beliefs so as to warn off others who may be seeking advice. I realize that's a taboo thing to do in your eyes, the negatives surrounding this stock should never be discussed, just tell everyone to buy. That's not right and you should know it.
 
Posted by lanebro on :
 
Sorry if I am repeating somthing that you already know. I don't have time to read all prior posts, just thought you'd like to read some news from the drag racing arena concerning CMKX and Arend parting company. Interesting. No money left?

http://www.nhra.com/apcm/templates/news_template.asp?articleid=6307&zoneid=8
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
i dont advise people to buy anything, they trade for themselves. they dont put their hands in my pockets, i dont put my hands in theirs. I believe in the holdings, if you dont, good for you. dont bash me for my choices. I dont ban anyone but i like PB 32 because when people come with nothing but bad rhetoric they toss them. but over there we also have the one's with nothing but good rhetoric (accadacca, carquest etc.). we all laugh at them. it is a very good board. As far as helping the newbies--- they can do their own DD. never buy on the backwork of another. if you do u are a fool. I looked for my own info with everything i ve bought. I get tips on possible buys here but never buy on anyone elses word, i dont care how good everyone says the person may be. That is the best advise you can give. telling someone not to buy is as bad as telling them to buy. And by the way a messageboard is not DD. Like i said i believe in the holdings, i believe in the company. no-one can change my mind but me.
COBRACOBRA
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
I'm not bashing you personally for your choices (except the Guiness) and I agree that you should do your own research but, the fact is that this part of the market is comprised of many, many first time investors who have no idea where to look or how to begin researching a stock and they gravitate to these boards. A first timer who stumbled upon PB would buy the stock in an instant. Here at least there's some debate that goes on as Legal posts a lot of opposing viewpoints and he's not banned for it. It seems you feel there's something wrong in offering them advice, I don't. Especially when it's a stock of this sort.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
cobra, seems like your very first post here was a personal attack. Maybe you are someone else in a past life but under this name all you have done has been an attack dog. But just because you can't see what stares you in the face, you shouldn't try and bash those that do. Most in this room have been at Allstocks for a long time. If we want to talk about a stock no matter what it is we can. That is whats great here. We understand what free speech is and if we want to say something about a stock, good or bad, we can. Not like some boards were if you don't fall in line with the group you are out. Give me more koolaid please.

But if you want to try and give counter points or DD on this stock to prove us wrong, please. No one else seems to be able to, just conjecture, rumors, and theories. They give us great DD on other companies and make it out as CMKX's. Give unproven conspiracies about JV's but again no proof. Nothing is UC's fault and the hearing was a lie. Missing documents and not giving documents to the people that need them. But no matter what this is our home here and we will stay.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
I'm not bashing you personally for your choices (except the Guiness) and I agree that you should do your own research but, the fact is that this part of the market is comprised of many, many first time investors who have no idea where to look or how to begin researching a stock and they gravitate to these boards. A first timer who stumbled upon PB would buy the stock in an instant. Here at least there's some debate that goes on as Legal posts a lot of opposing viewpoints and he's not banned for it. It seems you feel there's something wrong in offering them advice, I don't. Especially when it's a stock of this sort.

With ya 100%, upside. If I caused one person to stop from buying CMKX on PB, I consider to have done my duty. Sometimes the newcomers at least have to have a warning to double-check their DD before jumping off a cliff. I will maintain this attitude until those millions of dollars show up in my checking account. Until then, I wouldnt buy it, nor advise anyone else to buy it.
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
On the same token as you posted, if someone does not think this is the worst stock ever, and hates it more than vampires hate sunlight you attempt to obliterate that person and any info brought to the table. At this point it becomes a joke for the bashers. Another CMKX guy coming here,,,, we will destroy him like all the others! Even Legals good points ( he has lots) get bashed to oblivian (or bolivian in some circles LOL). Open your mind, when its all over one of us will be right, maybe you-maybe me, but my money (all play money) is on me being right. If not, oh well i lose my loot, you don't. the difference is that i will move on to another stock, you will still be here.
So no one can see any good in the stock, no good claims right. there is stuff up there as we all know and so does DeBeers et al.
--- Ric, you've not seen attack dog from me, i could get really viscious but havn't.
--- ed, i am sure you scared away one possible shareholder, so you can be done know. Go outside and get some air would ya. Its like you never leave this board. Not enough air is bad for the body and it will fail you. If your body is failing you, your mind will fail you also. So get your mind right. Have a good day friends.
COBRACOBRA
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
OK, I wasn't going to post any more CMKX here, but after about three pages of nothing but personal bashing, I have to offer up something for you folks to sink your teeth into besides each others azzes.

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20 Jul 2005, 09:00 PM EDT
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26 May 2005, 10:58 PM EDT
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Look into Gary Walters, Rick Tauli and especially BBX Equities. Where do I begin...Pull up a chair. In Nanosignal, BBX equities acquired a large position of the company somehow, Gary Walters also acquired alot of shares. John Edwards won a settlement from NNOS for $200,000 for services rendered..Anyway, it was rumored that NNOS was being pumped by Tauli and Walters all the time they were shorting against their almost majority position in NNOS. From what I read, they did this to a few other companies to..RAMO comes to mind...Ok, so I believe that before Barrington Foods became UCAD, our Boy Rendall went to BBX equity (run by Walters) for financing. Somehow BBX equities, IMHO, gets it's grip on a large portion of UCAD....I think through the Crystalix Connection (Dhonau, Woodward, BSIC Investors etc..)....and they in turn set their sights on CMKX. Now, I don't think Rendall is that smart, and I don't think Ed is that crooked, but I do think they would not be apposed to having the Sasketchewan Claims fall into their lap. At the same time, I think they realize that the good folks at BBX are going to do the same to UCAD, and Nevada Minerals if they can, so they see a benefit in playing along. Ed makes a mineral rights for shares agreement and UCAD buys an interest in CMKX.
So, Woodward and Michael King are involved in Crystalix. BBX Equity has a Michael King listed as a director.
Michael King runs Princeton Research website a stock touting operation.
He was also appointed to CMKM board in Nov 2002 along with Richard Taulli

Richard Taulli is also listed as treasurer of UCAD.

John S Woodward is president of UCAD.

John S Woodward is also listed as president of Crystalix, though
'resigned'

These guys have their fingers in CMKX and UCAD and CRYSTALIX and...THE PUMP IS ON FULL BLAST! All the while they are shorting the HE** (double hockeysticks) out of all of them. Then Crystalix screws up and they cannot buy Lazer Tek..Lazer Tek is awarded Crystalix's assets and assumes the name Crystalix with a new man in charge who grabs Woodward by the throat and takes away his voting rights...Kevin T. Ryan, partner in Global Intelligence Network with one Iron Bob Maheu...and they realize what is hapening. They see why Crystalix was in trouble. And I believe they hold grudges too. Meanwhile back at the ranch, Urban realizes that the insiders are short selling his company into oblivion. Oh my, he needs help..and he needs a plan. IMHO, he and Kevin Ryan hook up over some hotdogs at the race track. Its about this time that D Roger Glenn comes into the picture. Hmmmm. Now, I know that Roger has taken alot of heat...I still say he will be redeemed at some time. Roger sets up the dividends and traps the NSS. In September, CMKXTREME loans Crystalix a few Million. Then , In MY humble opinion, Roger calls in the SEC when he realizes that forces are trying to prevent the companies from filing. I think the party was supposed to reveal the Board of Directors and major share holders for both companies...and those people do not want their identity known. So much so that they threaten Urban and Rendell, and leverage information which might put the claims in jeopardy. UC is trapped and stays gagged. The SEC steps in because RG and IBM have given them info regarding the manipulation of these stocks. We watch USCA skyrocket and split and then get stopped. Now we're in a "quiet period" and RG tells Dhonau..."Ed, get out of CMKX or you will put it all in jeopardy and I'll introduce you to Bubba, your new roomate personally". Ed gives back the 75 Mill in Certs and they go into Urban's hands. "Check"...SHO is coming, you'll have to settle soon shorty Finally in February, IBM has had enough, sho is ineffective. Urban brings him on board as Co Chairman..and Roger goes onto USCA...but he's never announced as their compliance attorney..hmmm. Langley is introduced somewhere in there...Its just really messy. Well, if you've been in since January, you can put the rest together. In February or May, UC sets up a private trust. In April that trust loans Crystalix another $Million.
Woodwards leins against Crystalix are to be subordinated to the leins held by Kevin Ryan and Urban.
I'm intrigued to see where this is going, but I've got a feeling tha all of UC's moves are carefully scripted.

Again, this is all my opinion..based on som light reading.
 
Posted by ACKCANE on :
 
WOW! I really think if we put all of these stories and theories together we could give JK Rowling a run for her money.
 
Posted by will on :
 
What a bowl of spaghetti that is. LOL
I gotta hand it to you, noah. If y'all can't give clear factual straight forward information you sure know how to dazzle 'em with convoluted ramblings.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Re legal's repost of looneytune's post above:

it was rumored
From what I read,
so I believe
Somehow
I think through
Now, I don't think
and I don't think
but I do think
I think they
And I believe
I know
I still say
In MY humble opinion,
I think
I'm intrigued
Again, this is all my opinion..based on som light reading.

W: So much for credibility and proof.

PS: AND VALIDITY!!
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
like i said, even valid points, you guys trash them,,,,
 
Posted by will on :
 
What valid points? It's all conjecture and inuendo again.
Again, from legal's, (noah's), own little fat fingers:
"there you go assuming again. You don't know what the company is doing. You are only seeing what you want to see, or what supports your contentions."
 
Posted by ACKCANE on :
 
Valid points!!! Where???? Seriously?
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by cobracobra:
quote:
On the same token as you posted, if someone does not think this is the worst stock ever, and hates it more than vampires hate sunlight you attempt to obliterate that person and any info brought to the table. At this point it becomes a joke for the bashers. Another CMKX guy coming here,,,, we will destroy him like all the others! Even Legals good points ( he has lots) get bashed to oblivian (or bolivian in some circles LOL). Open your mind, when its all over one of us will be right, maybe you-maybe me, but my money (all play money) is on me being right. If not, oh well i lose my loot, you don't. the difference is that i will move on to another stock, you will still be here.
Cobra,
First off, I don't think anyone here is looking to "destroy" anyone. Sure, if someone comes on here posting theories that make no sense, they'll be challenged, but again, they wont be banned, probably ridiculed but not banned. Post your reasons for thinking this is the big one, we'll discuss it. You say you've only invested "play money" into this stock, if that's true, you're a wise man, that's all that should be invested in this stock or any other stock trading in this part of the market. As far as losing my loot goes, it's already happened, I sold at .00004 a month or so back. My 1200 dollar gamble returned 160 bucks. I feel I fared a lot better than some are going to. Anyway, post away, let us know what you're thinking, yeah, you'll get torn apart but if you can back it up, you'll earn everyones respect here. Just ask Legal.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I still haven't seen one proof of anything posted yet. Why come here and ridicule yet not offer one once of proof on why we are wrong about CMKX. And no IMO stuff. Facts that says we are wrong. Here is part of mine that proves my case.

Before the hearing

* Authorized Shares increased from less than 1 billion to 800 billion
* Outstanding Shares increased from less than 1 billion to 779 billion
* 500 billion in dilution from March 2004 to March 2005
* 407 billion on shareholders list as of March 2005
* Was told we would be pleasantly surprised by O/S and made to believe it was under 400 billion. Melvin on the air denies that the O/S is over 400 Billion after TA fiasco
* CMKX Transfer Agent gagged per direction of the UC
* Refuses to give investors basic information on company
* Refuses to give share structure
* CMKX trading unregistered shares in SASK, trading halted there
* SASK inquiry into CMKX valuations ignored
* CMKX partner USCA under investigation by the SASK
* No revenue stream from company operations
* Repeated claims of being close to reporting when in fact no attempt had been made
* Claims in Canada for mineral rights, made to believe 100's of holes drilled. but only 15
* Let the only promising hole go. It was sold on E-Bay
* UC buys a 3.5 million dollar property, motor-home, hummer, boat, likes to gamble, likes to race funny cars while shareholders value decreases
* UC at race track almost every weekend
* Spent investors money to sponsor motorcycle and drag racing
* Advertises stock instead of company, Got CMKX
* Voids in records
* UC says he doesn't know how to run a public company
* UC blames others for mismanagement
* SEC investigation and temporary halt
* Lied on form 15 more then 100% off (claimed under 300, had 689)


During the hearing

* Judge ruled that NS is not going to be admitted into evidence
* She asked SEC if they think CMKX has NS and the SEC said no
* When asked by the SEC, TA stated there was no record of CMKX management inquiring into the number of shareholders in July 2003
* RG was paid $250,000 and one page report was presented
* Urban shows up with his own personal lawyer
* Urban invokes his 5th Amendment right to not answer any/all questions asked by the SEC attorneys (12 minutes of "I take the 5th")
* Maheu testifies he was not aware of the problems the new accountant and attorney were having in receiving documentation from Urban to get filings completed.
* Maheu can’t answer question on companies operations
* We find out Urban runs CMKX from his house, not the company PR'd new offices in Las Vegas
* Maheu paid $40,000 a month. Has been paid for 2 months pay even though he has been there 4 months and Judge makes joke about the amount he is paid
* Accountants: all quit after frustration in not being able to do their jobs. Current accountant, Neil Levine, resigns on May 9th one day before the hearing
* Rendal Williams (CEO of UCAD & 50/50 partner with CMKX) has a "failing memory" when questioned on the stand, he appearingly is distancing himself from CMKX/Urban Casavant
* Oct. party was in evidence over claims made that didn’t happen
* Green Baron interview played because of claims made in it also
* Carolyn Casavant wrote checks against the company account although she is not an officer of the company, explanation given to the court "that's what wife's do."
* Current financial status, over $30 million in debt
*Judge says this is a filing issue
* Has till 29th of June for rebuttals and decision will be by July 15th

After the hearing

* Two .011 micron size diamonds
* Only 15 holes drilled, nothing found in any except in one hole see above
* Drilling report says to give it up people.
* Company issued PR that 100's of anomalies found from goldak fly over yet 8K states 16 from goldak fly over & some of them may not be worth drilling
* Refuses to give investors basic information on company.
* Refuses to give share structure
* SEC reply says it all
* UC can't afford to sponsor Arends car anymore
* Frizzle working on proving NS
* Revoked by the SEC
* UC refuses to let the shareholders know whats going on or give any reinsurances.

CMKX's actual results could differ materially from such forward-looking statements because of factors such as: actual or perceived benefits of the Jarvis report; any findings or recommendations contained in the report; uncertain regulatory scrutiny; the current state of CMKX's operations; unavailability of documentation and corporate records; benefits of the to be commenced summer drilling program; the ability to rebuild financial records; timing necessary to comply with reporting requirements; lack of adequate internal controls; unforeseen capital deficiencies; changes in the mining and metals environment, including actions of competitors; the effectiveness of CMKX's development and drilling programs; regulatory and legal changes; and other risks associated with companies in similar industries. CMKX undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements to reflect current events or circumstances after the date hereof or to reflect the occurrence of unanticipated events.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Lets use the same logic as 100 to 1 did here.

I am related to Adam and Eve
I owned Microsoft stock at one time
My computer has Microsoft Windows and Word on it
I went to college

Bill Gates is related to Adam and Eve
Bill Gates owns Microsoft
Bill Gate's computer has Microsoft Windows and word on it
Bill Gates went to college

I must be related to Bill Gates and I should get part of his inheritance if he dies.

Makes sense to me.
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
I've never said it WILL be the big pay i said i HOPE it will be the big pay. As far as posting goes legal has said most of what can be said. I am a part of the company that holds almost a Million acres of claims in , from past precident, what is very mineral rich areas. We dont have the filing info yet but i believe , i know there is that word again, thst there will be upcoming filings. When they are filed i will now if i've been duped. i dont think so,but we will all know SOon enough.
if it moves on info great, if it moves on speculation great. i dont care how it moves, just as long as it moves. this play will come and go just as all others have. but like many other .0001 stocks ive been in its a huge gamble. my risk is worth my percieved reward. many .0001 stock have given me 5 and 4 baggers, some even more-- others less, some- well, they got me in the end. i chalk it up as a loss and move on.
I like the area where the claims are. it is what i DD 'd the most.
I know the SEC is friggin crooked and they want CMKX and its affiliates gone, that tells me that something must be different and RIGHT with CMKX.
Maybe the counterfeit shares will help the move, I am in the owners group, both phases. and am confident the counterfeit shares are an issue. will they shoot the price to a dollar, of coarse not, but eventually the price, as previously stated by me, will move.
the players havn't proven themselves yet, but i hope soon they wiill. I suppose you've never found a play you just felt inside you was right. all in all i am willing to take the risk. the reward is to great to not do it. and yes i also occasionally play the lottery. If he lottery is over a hundred million i get a quick pick. cant win if u dont play. well its the same with CMKX cant win if your not in. you did a risk assessment and said NO,,,, i assessed and said yes. in the end there can be only one winner. I hope it is me.
cobra
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Actually, that probably is the best, honest post that I have seen from the other side.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
I'm out of it but I hope it's you too Cobra. I still know a bunch of people in this stock and it would be great to see it pay off, even if I'm not involved. One thing on your dd on the land claims, assuming that all the numbered claims do in fact belong to CMKX, look at where they are in relation to the cluster and the trend line of the kimberlites. If the cluster continues on the same north/northwestern path, CMKX is pretty much aced out unless it continues for a long, long ways.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well, well i guess you guys only like to have fun without me...lol. i'm at work yesterday & i miss flipping HISC just as i thought i'd be able to. i work tonight & everyone including a new guy shows up & has a free for all. i see wallace didn't get any again last nite, looks like legals a bit edgy too...lol Will is always an azz so no change. welcome cobra, as was posted the cult is welcome here just beware of a few of our dogs...lol. i agree Ric this guy might not be a complete cult member like Legal. speaking of Legal......


you are correct Legal, it wasn't a january pr it was febuary & here it is....


From Feb 2003 14C

This report is prepared on behalf of Fort a la Corne Diamond Fields Inc., and is intended to
document the status of kimberlite exploration activities in and around 5 properties which are
located within the Fort à la Corne kimberlite field of central Saskatchewan. The 5 properties
consist of 636 mineral claims with a total area of 247 708 ha (611 625 acres), which are
currently wholly owned by others, as listed in Table 1.
Table 1: Properties of interest
Registered Owner Number of Claims Area (ha) Recording Date
Buckshot Holdings Ltd. (50%)
Commando Holdings Ltd. (50%) 318 78 177 March 2 and 9, 2001
101010307 Saskatchewan Ltd. 142 70 427 May 11, 2001
101012190 Saskatchewan Ltd. 106 81 568 August 16, 2001
101027101 Saskatchewan Ltd. 34 8 320 March 20, 2002
Morgain Minerals Inc. 36 9 216 March 20, 2002
No exploration work has been conducted on the 5 properties by the present owners. There are
no known kimberlite occurrences within the 5 properties, but all are reasonably proximal to the
74 known kimberlite bodies of the Fort à la Corne kimberlite field. The geological setting and
geophysical exploration characteristics of the Fort à la Corne area are discussed, providing a
framework to assess the prospectivity of the properties for further kimberlite discoveries.


notice the last paragraph...NO KNOWN KIMBERLITE but its close to some & according to the cult thats all that matters, it will make them rich.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
now on to the gemm divy...if you'll notice at the bottom where it gives the split there are dates each as a refer to section except the first 1...each tells you to refer to the last 1. at no time does it give the second divy that was pr'ed by cmkx as to being given out


1st statement.....


+Approximately .00012267 of a restricted share of Juina Mining Corp (OTC: GEMM) for each share held. Will not be quoted Ex.


2nd statement....Refer to the D/L of 9/28/04, P/D revised by Co. +Approx .00012267 of a restricted share of Juina Mining Corp (OTC: GEMM) for each share held. Will not be quoted Ex.


3rd statement.....Refer to the D/L of 11/16, 2nd revision of P/D by Co. +Approx .00012267 of a restricted share of Juina Mining Corp (OTC: GEMM) for each share held.


these are the facts, i'm not guessing, i'm not trying to put a puzzle together, there are no hidden messages, nobody is related or in bed with anyone (maybe Will & Upside). no need to try & add 2 + 2 & get $1 million.
 
Posted by Dagger Depot on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
cobra, seems like your very first post here was a personal attack. Maybe you are someone else in a past life but under this name all you have done has been an attack dog. But just because you can't see what stares you in the face, you shouldn't try and bash those that do. Most in this room have been at Allstocks for a long time. If we want to talk about a stock no matter what it is we can. That is whats great here. We understand what free speech is and if we want to say something about a stock, good or bad, we can. Not like some boards were if you don't fall in line with the group you are out. Give me more koolaid please.


Not to take sides on any level, but there are alot of people who bash other people for making choices they dont agree with. I think if you dont like a stock, mention it. Give reasons even.

f you think others are stupid or retarded, or anything like that, keep it to yourself. There are good people here and bad people here and both of which are guilty of aiming attacks directly at other people. Frankly it just gets tiresome and repetitive.

I couldnt care any less if you don't like this person or if they dont like you. I'm here to read opinions on the stock. Not rumors on peoples' homelives...

I'll end on that note. Have a nice night...
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
bill, of course there was NO KNOWN KIMBERLITE. This was from a 2003 14C that announced and delineated the acquisition of those claims by CMKX. No Goldak surveys yet at that time. You are obviously trying to do some DD now to support your position, but you gotta look at times and relativity.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
Ric
Member


Member Rated:
posted July 21, 2005 00:27
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Lets use the same logic as 100 to 1 did here.

I am related to Adam and Eve
I owned Microsoft stock at one time
My computer has Microsoft Windows and Word on it
I went to college

Bill Gates is related to Adam and Eve
Bill Gates owns Microsoft
Bill Gate's computer has Microsoft Windows and word on it
Bill Gates went to college

I must be related to Bill Gates and I should get part of his inheritance if he dies.

Makes sense to me.
==================================


ya had me till ya added the college part, now if ya both went to the same college & both had fun with the same girl ya might be on to something.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
now on to the gemm divy...if you'll notice at the bottom where it gives the split there are dates each as a refer to section except the first 1...each tells you to refer to the last 1. at no time does it give the second divy that was pr'ed by cmkx as to being given out


1st statement.....


+Approximately .00012267 of a restricted share of Juina Mining Corp (OTC: GEMM) for each share held. Will not be quoted Ex.


2nd statement....Refer to the D/L of 9/28/04, P/D revised by Co. +Approx .00012267 of a restricted share of Juina Mining Corp (OTC: GEMM) for each share held. Will not be quoted Ex.


3rd statement.....Refer to the D/L of 11/16, 2nd revision of P/D by Co. +Approx .00012267 of a restricted share of Juina Mining Corp (OTC: GEMM) for each share held.


these are the facts, i'm not guessing, i'm not trying to put a puzzle together, there are no hidden messages, nobody is related or in bed with anyone (maybe Will & Upside). no need to try & add 2 + 2 & get $1 million.

Bill that was a lot of work for you and I appreciate it, but since it doesn't state what your point is, I will have to guess that you are trying to say there never was two divies planned.
So with that in mind I will have to point out that the PR stated there will be a divy and an ADDITIONAL divy:


8/2/2004 : LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 2, 2004--CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX - News) announced today that it has elected to distribute the 95,502,027 shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets: GEMM - News) which were recently purchased by the company as a dividend to its shareholders.

The company has chosen Oct. 1, 2004, as the record and distribution date for this latest dividend to its shareholders.

In addition, GEMM has issued a 60-day option to CMKX to purchase shares equivalent to an additional 24% of the outstanding shares in GEMM for an additional $500,000 USD. When exercised, the company has elected to distribute this ADDITIONAL 127,336,036 as a dividend on the same record and distribution date.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
legal the gist of my original statement on pb32 was that debeers had already been testing their claims by feb 2003. in fact shore gold had been testing. debeers, with all of its experiance, knowledge & equipment would have gone over everything around there. yes they might miss something, but not much & not something huge. i do not know the timeframe between debeers filing their claims & shore gold, they might have missed that one but if there was any serious kimberlite around debeers knew it. like them or not they are good at what they do. thus if that 611 thousand acres had no known kimberlite chances are good it was because there was no kimberlite worth looking at seriously.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Well, I had to put a crazy one in there too. If I didn't then it would match the inferences made by adding 2+2=1 million that they used. lol
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
correct legal...cmkx exercized that option & then stated a second divy would be given out. or am i mistaken on that??? it was later then 60 days when it happened. my point is they never gave the second pr'ed divy out. notice the 2nd & 3rd posts. they canceled the first pay day about noon on that day & moved it to the day the second divy was to be paid. this caused some to get shares in their accounts on the first pay day & other on the second. it caused it to appear that the mm's were scrambling to cover naked shorts when in fact it was cmkx covering something up as in no second GEMM divy.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
legal the gist of my original statement on pb32 was that debeers had already been testing their claims by feb 2003. in fact shore gold had been testing. debeers, with all of its experiance, knowledge & equipment would have gone over everything around there. yes they might miss something, but not much & not something huge. i do not know the timeframe between debeers filing their claims & shore gold, they might have missed that one but if there was any serious kimberlite around debeers knew it. like them or not they are good at what they do. thus if that 611 thousand acres had no known kimberlite chances are good it was because there was no kimberlite worth looking at seriously.

bill, if, and that's a very questionable if, DeBeers ever had those sites they didn't do more than punch in a drill and apparently come up dry. The Goldak Survey announced "hundreds" of anomalies and further stated that it was the "first" such survey of the area ever conducted. It's apparent that DeBeers didn't want to spend the money to get the job done right, and Urban did. So their loss was our gain.


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 24, 2004--CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX - News) announced today it has just received preliminary results from the airborne magnetic survey recently completed by Goldak Airborne Surveys of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. The survey was conducted during April, May and June 2004 using Goldak's Navaho aircraft equipped with a trimaxial magnetic gradiometer.

By employing this modern, state of the art geophysical equipment and flying a low-level, closely spaced survey, HUNDREDS of magnetic anomalies were able to be identified. Some of these anomalies are obvious drill targets, while others will need further study by the Company's consultants.

Urban Casavant, president of the CMKM Diamonds, Inc., stated, "The company is very pleased with the results of the survey. For the FIRST time in the history of diamond exploration in the Fort a' la Corne area, a complete and comprehensive magnetic picture of the whole area is available to the company."
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
bunch of posts about personal attacks...i agree they are wrong. that said reading some of the cults ideas can hurt a normal, non-kool-aide drinking brain. its like dealling with a teenage son. there are time when talking to him you just want to grab him by the neck & shake his head till whatever is in there rattleing stops. you begin to wonder how you ever had such an idiot for a child. ya don't hate him, ya still believe he has value but for that moment you seriously belive there has been some brain damge done somehow. ya can't always stop yourself from screaming what an idiot he is.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
again correct legal BUT the 8K a few months ago stated it was the review of that survey. yes it was missing the map page but in the text that hundreds became 16 & some of those might not be kimberlite. and your assuming debeers did not survey by air. debeers owns that type of equipment, they don't rent it. cmkx is not on debeers board. debeers went back to private before that thus they do not need to tell anyone how they found their claims thus cmkx really has no idea for sure that it was not done. they just know that nobody hired anyone to survey by air...no permit needed for that.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
also notice the last sentence...........For the FIRST time in the history of diamond exploration in the Fort a' la Corne area, a complete and comprehensive magnetic picture of the whole area is available to the company." ...it ends to the company. ya really think debeers or shore gold for that matter would tell cmkx there was such a map? you yap about the guy at stockwatch but this is just the kind of thing he points out. pr's worded to sound like something special but in reality meaningless & yes he is a scam artist & as stated by him, this is his way of making up for the damage he did scaming ppl. who better to find a con then a conman?
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Bill it is very simply spelled out that there were two dividends, different amounts of shares, different pay dates. They didn't both get paid because there weren't enough to go around to all of the naked short, pure and simple. That's why the brokers finally admitted that the shares in our accounts were only "markers", not real shares. Roger's trap worked.

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 2, 2004--CMKM Diamonds Inc.
(Pink Sheets: CMKX - News) announced today that it has elected to distribute
the 95,502,027 shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets: GEMM - News)
which were recently purchased by the company as a dividend to its shareholders.

The company has chosen Oct. 1, 2004, as the record and distribution date
for this latest dividend to its shareholders.

In addition, GEMM has issued a 60-day option to CMKX to purchase shares
equivalent to an additional 24% of the outstanding shares in GEMM for an
additional $500,000 USD. When exercised, the company has elected to
distribute this additional 127,336,036 as a dividend on the same record and
distribution date.


LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 2, 2004--CMKM Diamonds Inc.
(Pink Sheets: CMKX - News) announced today that it has elected to distribute
the 95,502,027 shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets: GEMM - News)
which were recently purchased by the company as a dividend to its shareholders.

The company has chosen Oct. 1, 2004, as the record and distribution date
for this latest dividend to its shareholders.

In addition, GEMM has issued a 60-day option to CMKX to purchase shares
equivalent to an additional 24% of the outstanding shares in GEMM for an
additional $500,000 USD. When exercised, the company has elected to
distribute this additional 127,336,036 as a dividend on the same record and
distribution date.


LAS VEGAS, Oct 16, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX), announced today that it has exercised its option to purchase an additional 127,336,036 shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets:GEMM) for $500,000 USD. The Company has elected to purchase these shares to issue as a dividend to all CMKX shareholders as of the October 29,2004 record date .The distribution date for this latest dividend is set for November 30, 2004.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I still believe if the property was really worth anything then a tiny pinksheet company ran by an ex-prison guard wouldn't had a chance to get it. Could there be diamonds there, I guess so. Could there be oil under my 20 acres? Do I have the money to find out? Needle in the hay stacks will take on person a lifetime to find. A pinksheet company with one drill that spent the diluted shares money on a drag car will also. But since they can't sell shares anymore then where is the money going to come from?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
legal...it was never given out. only 1 divy was issued. period. the date was changed on the first divy pay day in the middle of the day to the second divy pay date. at no time did ameritrade ever recieve word there was a second divy. i cant speak for other brokers because i only talk to my broker but i was pointed to the dates on the bottom about 1 hr after the first pay date was canceled and again a few days later. 2 ppl told me the same thing & showed me the same dates on the bottom
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well i'm off...need sleep bad...be well folks.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
again correct legal BUT the 8K a few months ago stated it was the review of that survey. yes it was missing the map page but in the text that hundreds became 16 & some of those might not be kimberlite. and your assuming debeers did not survey by air. debeers owns that type of equipment, they don't rent it. cmkx is not on debeers board. debeers went back to private before that thus they do not need to tell anyone how they found their claims thus cmkx really has no idea for sure that it was not done. they just know that nobody hired anyone to survey by air...no permit needed for that.

Bill the report was only for one set of claims, 101047025 Saskatchewan Ltd,not all of our claims, and it was 15 holes that were drilled, not a reduction of the number of anomalies occuring on all of our claims covered by the Goldak. And that report didn't include all of the holes being drilled by our JV's on the many claims held jointly with them.


"The drilling report was commissioned for CMKX by 101047025 Saskatchewan Ltd. Mr. Jarvis was asked to report on and make recommendations for the kimberlite exploration program. The scope of work completed included:"
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
legal...it was never given out. only 1 divy was issued. period. the date was changed on the first divy pay day in the middle of the day to the second divy pay date. at no time did ameritrade ever recieve word there was a second divy. i cant speak for other brokers because i only talk to my broker but i was pointed to the dates on the bottom about 1 hr after the first pay date was canceled and again a few days later. 2 ppl told me the same thing & showed me the same dates on the bottom

Bill, a quick call to Helen, the TA should convince you that the second divy was not distributed. She will confirm that there was a first and second divy. The first was distributed, and the second wasn't. We can only speculate on why it wasn't. But from the first divy, the brokers had to issue "markers" meaning there weren't enough to go around to all of the shareholders. The DTCC or SEC probably had to stop the second distribution so there wouldn't be another massive failure to deliver the dividends.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
What holes the JV's drilled???? How many??? Where is there proof?? And if they did, like the 15 CMKX did that had nothing, what makes you think they found anything?

I keep hearing you say this but its only a theory. Theories seem to be all that ever come out about this company.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Is today THE day??
 
Posted by will on :
 
I'm not sure. I thought the Judge gave her initial finding on July 9, add 21 days to that, and it's July 30. Might be next Saturday.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Okay, I'll go take another nap.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
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Tommorrow means nothing its 21 days from the initial decision that places the appeal deadline on the 2nd of august. They can address any manifest errors in the case within a 10 day window that places anything to do with manifest errors in law by Friday. The 21st was a statement by the judge for the deadline of her 120 days set forth by the oip. but that too was wrong. 120 days from the 16th of march was july 13th. so therefore the 21st is just the 21st IMO
~Phx
 
Posted by will on :
 
INITIAL DECISION
July 12, 2005
Add 21 days to that. Sounds as if Tuesday, August 2, is accurate to me.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i guess that fact that the goldtac survey being mentioned by name as being part of the 8k report is meaningless. again we see the selective facts mixed with chit to make the cult feel better become the only possible reality. again the 1 piece of paper needed to remove all guessing is missing & it was the company that lost it. yes the survey mentioned 1 set of claims but it aslo mentioned the goldtac survey & it didn't say PART OF THE GOLDTAC SURVEY. the guy that wrote that report seemed to leave nothing to guess at. but of course UC is so smart, he only gave the guy part of the survey so that the big news didn't leak out. big set of balls there to, put out 1/2 info in an 8k while the sec was breathing down his neck. sounds like what stockpatrol is accusing UC of, misleading, 1/2 true prs & public statements.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Bill when a survey like that is done over millions of acres, it doesn't appear on one piece of paper. Jarvis was given the parts of the survey that applied to what he was hired to assess. That was the 101047025 Saskatchewan Ltd claims and he was working for 10104725 Saskatchewan Ltd. It's clearly spelled out in the report heading. Why would he report on every claim held by CMKX and every claim held by our JV's, when he was only hired to report on
101047025 Saskatchewan Ltd? When you are dealing with millions of acres, it seems rather logical to me that you would do it in small segments. But if you are grasping for anything you can use to back up your bashing, I guess "We only got a partial report, so Urban is lying and scamming.", is adequate for your purposes. And BTW where did you get your information that Urban withheld the Table 1? If you have proof shouldn't you get that to the SEC since that would be purposely issuing a false, misleading and incomplete 8K. I'm sure Stoecklein is dumb enough to get caught in that one.

"Summary of Activities and Work Programs Completed in the Fort a al Corne Area by 101047025 Saskatchewan Ltd on behalf CMKM Diamonds Inc.

Prepared by William Jarvis, Diamond Elporation Consultant April 2005 for 10104725 Saskatchewan Ltd."
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
legal, go back & read the pr about the survey...i dont remember where it was but the goldtac survey was not over every claim held by cmkx & group. it was only over around 70,000 acres. the pr also stated when the survey was done that the survey was to be reviewed by pro's not part of the survey was to be reviewed. if i remember correctly it was a big deal for the cult, hundreds of anomolies & only part of the claims were covered by goldtac.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Actually bill, the survey covered an area of approximately 53,841 km. Since it was "area" that would be sq km. To obtain sq miles, you multiply the km by .6214 In this case that would be a survey area of 33,456.80 sq miles. To derive acres from miles, multiply the square miles by 640, the number of acres in a square mile. That number is 21,412,352 sq acres, involved in the survey. A long way from your 70,000 acres.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Come on Bill, all those folks you were talking to at PB 32 about your "facts" are watching here for your proof.
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
like i said, legal has the facts, he has said just about everything. when he posts to much fact you all have to resort to th "kool aid" and "cult" cracks. where are the facts to refute legal's? maybe you can't! And this is the part where you have to bash me because i am agreeing with him and stating that he has you with FACTS. go ahead, i'll wait........
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
cobra, the cavalry will be along soon. I heard the bugle in the distance.
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
that was n't a bugle call, it was taps for them....LOL
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Agreed, the "little big horn" will be poking them soon.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
If your referring to the 2004 Goldak survey that's in CMKX's filing, that survey covered just under 2.3 million acres.
 
Posted by will on :
 
..and the results were ????
 
Posted by a4realguy on :
 
You guys don't have enough to do..
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
If your referring to the 2004 Goldak survey that's in CMKX's filing, that survey covered just under 2.3 million acres.

Agreed Up, that's what it covered for our claims, but there were more companies involved in contracting the entire survey, than just CMKX. Even DeBeers was involved.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well if up says it was 2.1 million acres i'll take that number. i had something over 70,000 acres in my memory, 76,000 i seem to have stuck in there. as for the 8k report again it does not say part of that survey, i do agree it stated a certain compnay Sask. plus a number. the 8k also cover the now gone smeaton or carolyn claims. & the core samples tested. as for your claim cobra that i haven't stated fact, if i'm wrong on the size of the goldtac survey, oh well. the cult should have such a good record. so far the cult is batting zero. not 1 of their claims has been proven true or based on fact. show me proof they found more then .0011 micrograms of diamonds. show me proof that insiders own 51% show me proof cmkx has any proven value. i have given proof UC lied to the SEC & shareholders direct from his mouth & hand.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Legaleagle:
quote:
the survey covered an area of approximately 53,841 km.
That can't be right, can it? That's approaching 10% of all of Saskatchewan and more than twice the Fort A La Corne area. You sure that number isn't referring to line-kilometers?
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Posted by Legaleagle:
quote:
the survey covered an area of approximately 53,841 km.
That can't be right, can it? That's approaching 10% of all of Saskatchewan and more than twice the Fort A La Corne area. You sure that number isn't referring to line-kilometers?
It was "area", so it would have to be squared. As I recall, there was a good deal of discussion back in those days about whether it was linear or area because PR's conflicted.

If linear, then calculations would have to be done with the 150 meter lines by 40
meter cell size. That would be 600 sq meters per 150 linear meters.

If you divide the 53,841 km "linear" measurement by the 150 meter units, you get 359 cells of 600 square meters each. That would be a total of
215,400 sq meters or 133,850 sq miles. 133,850 x 640 acres per mile = 85,664,000 sq acres. Either way you go it's a ton of acreage surveyed.
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
well if up says it was 2.1 million acres i'll take that number. i had something over 70,000 acres in my memory, 76,000 i seem to have stuck in there. as for the 8k report again it does not say part of that survey, i do agree it stated a certain compnay Sask. plus a number. the 8k also cover the now gone smeaton or carolyn claims. & the core samples tested. as for your claim cobra that i haven't stated fact, if i'm wrong on the size of the goldtac survey, oh well. the cult should have such a good record. so far the cult is batting zero. not 1 of their claims has been proven true or based on fact. show me proof they found more then .0011 micrograms of diamonds. show me proof that insiders own 51% show me proof cmkx has any proven value. i have given proof UC lied to the SEC & shareholders direct from his mouth & hand.

Like i said, if you cant refute the facts as given,,, you resort to using the "cult/Koolaid" comments. As i said you would. It is not hard to fathom that the goldak was bigger than CMKX alone. Other companies could have easily been involved. why refute the acreage(<spelling??) numbers are as good a fact as can be. heck you have been telling us that the numbers are key in the filings and that they will proove your side when thay come out, why cant the numbers be right on our side, oh i forgot we are the "Cult" so numbers are wrong from us.
COBRA
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Are you guys still wasting time here?
There are thousands of dollars to be made in HISC, NCDP, and GRYF while you're arguing about a stock that's stuck at .0001 or less......
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Tri-axial gradient data was obtained for all of the Joint Venture land area from the airborne Goldak Tri-Max System run on 150 meter lines and on a 40 meter cell size. The anomalies are located across the length of the known kimberlite trend and in-house specialists at De Beers are modeling the size of these features. The high resolution of this survey will also permit re-definition of many of the historical kimberlite outlines.

"Due to the overall cost and the magnitude of this survey area to be conducted, financing for the survey will be provided through a joint
venture between CMKM Diamonds Inc. and several other Fort a La Corne claim owners whom are publicly U.S. and Canadian Exchange
traded companies."
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Line-kilometers relate to the size of the grid thats being surveyed and the spacing of those lines on the grid, it's a relatively meaningless term. In CMKX's drilling report, the Goldak survey covered 52,688 line-kilometers (very close to your number) which equaled approx. 2.3 million acres. It looks to me as though that was the total coverage of the survey for all parties, although I don't see where there were any other parties involved. There's a picture in the filing that shows the grid of where the survey took place, its a rectangular box over all of CMKX's claims which would account for the somewhat larger acerage amount than what CMKX actually holds.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Are you guys still wasting time here?
There are thousands of dollars to be made in HISC, NCDP, and GRYF while you're arguing about a stock that's stuck at .0001 or less......

ed, aren't you here wasting OUR time? BTW HISC down another 5.5% currently. CMKX unchanged.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Making money elswhere too Ed but come on, this is our life!
 
Posted by mydogsky on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Posted by Legaleagle:
quote:
the survey covered an area of approximately 53,841 km.
That can't be right, can it? That's approaching 10% of all of Saskatchewan and more than twice the Fort A La Corne area. You sure that number isn't referring to line-kilometers?
It was "area", so it would have to be squared. As I recall, there was a good deal of discussion back in those days about whether it was linear or area because PR's conflicted.

If linear, then calculations would have to be done with the 150 meter lines by 40
meter cell size. That would be 600 sq meters per 150 linear meters.

If you divide the 53,841 km "linear" measurement by the 150 meter units, you get 359 cells of 600 square meters each. That would be a total of
215,400 sq meters or 133,850 sq miles. 133,850 x 640 acres per mile = 85,664,000 sq acres. Either way you go it's a ton of acreage surveyed.

Please help me understand your math.

From what I understand are Line Kilometres each line is the length the aerial device flies in a straight distance. Your 40 metre cell size doesn't make sense unless you are talking about Line spacing. So do you mean line spacing = 40 metres? And why are you using 150 as your number for the distance of the line? Was that in a pr?

And dude, come on, basic math. You can't divide 53,841 km by 150 metres and expect to get a number that is right. They are in different units. One is km and the other is simply in metres. You would either need to take the metre reading up to km or would need to take the km reading down to metres.

You guys don't have all the facts, you just like to talk a lot and make it look like you do.

-sky
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Are you guys still wasting time here?
There are thousands of dollars to be made in HISC, NCDP, and GRYF while you're arguing about a stock that's stuck at .0001 or less......

ed, aren't you here wasting OUR time? BTW HISC down another 5.5% currently. CMKX unchanged.
You're absolutely correct on those numbers.
However, HISC down 5/5% means I ONLY got $4000 profit. CMKX unchanged means I still havent seen a penny.....LOL
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
CUAL, I'll leave yall to your misery, or whatever.
 
Posted by justplayin on :
 
WTF, my account shows CMKX UP.

How can this be????
 
Posted by ACKCANE on :
 
several trades at .0002!! What's up?????
 
Posted by will on :
 
If that's accurate and not a .00002 fatfinger, I would say CMKX is up. Try to sell it though at .0001, bet it will sit there forever. LOL

quote:
Originally posted by ACKCANE:
several trades at .0002!! What's up?????


 
Posted by lanebro on :
 
Doing some racetrack DD...word has it UC is going broke, or to jail. His sponsor deal with Arend was 50% up front, 50% at mid-season. The other funny car got 100% upfront. Hence the parting of ways with Arend. NHRA is in an uproar, many want to see the sponsor, the drivers, team owners, and the CEO of NHRA go to jail for allowing this scam to take advantage of the good fans. WooHoo, can't wait to get to Seattle!
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Damn! I wish I lived closer to Seattle, that might be fun. Hey Will, road trip?
 
Posted by will on :
 
NO!
I don't understand the sponsordhip deal, for one, and how in the heck you figure the guy is going to jail. If they put all the people who went broke in jail there would more broke people in there than drug dealers.
Did he pay the 50% upfront, did he pay the 100% upfront on the other car? That really isn't very clear, is it?
Besides does it really matter, they guy's money machine is broke, no more printing allowed with premanent revocation around the corner.
If there are remnants of this pos around for the Chicago October race, maybe I'll go stuff my face with hotdogs and burgers.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Come on! I've got it pegged at about 30 hours. You do all the driving, I'm sightseeing.
 
Posted by will on :
 
I wouldn't care if they killed the guy and everyone associated with this pos. If it is a REAL news story I'll see it on CNN or FOX.
Although I would like to see that topogigio guy get a couple limbs torn off his body, or Ron Casavant get his nose bit off.
Ron Cassavant, I remember that one repost of legal's where the guy said he was very intellegent. They must use several Ron Casavants because the one I met was friggin mope.
Let's plan on the October Chicago race if this thing is still crawling around.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
What the heck do you think they'll be racing by October? Tricycles? This whole thing is falling apart right in front of us, Seattle might be our only chance. I'll even do some of the driving, I'll take the Idaho portion.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Yea, I'll take a Idaho potato and stuff it up your exhast port, pal.
I ain't going. It's all bullchit, nothing is going to happen, never does with this pos. Stay home and listen to CD's with the Mrs., if you don't choke yourself with USB cables.
Now leave me alone with Seattle.
Better yet, take Wallace with ya. LOL
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Little touchy today fella? I thought you'd be in a good mood with your big day ahead.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Look I gave you sound advice. 30 hours of listening to CD's with you, and there's a good possibility you'll be living alone. 30 hours driving with Wallace, there's a good possibility you will jump out of a moving car and break your neck. Either way, you'll have what you deserve.
LOL
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
30 hours in a car with you would be about 29 hours and 45 minutes of pure hell.
 
Posted by lanebro on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
NO!
I don't understand the sponsordhip deal, for one, and how in the heck you figure the guy is going to jail. If they put all the people who went broke in jail there would more broke people in there than drug dealers.
Did he pay the 50% upfront, did he pay the 100% upfront on the other car? That really isn't very clear, is it?
Besides does it really matter, they guy's money machine is broke, no more printing allowed with premanent revocation around the corner.
If there are remnants of this pos around for the Chicago October race, maybe I'll go stuff my face with hotdogs and burgers.

I'm sorry I did not make myself clear; Arend's 2nd payment was instead a fond farewell. The other team had the foresight to get it all up front. All I can say, it's bulls**t to pull funding from a team that well deserved it. I hope UC rots from the inside out for this. And I'll give mopey Ron a firm handshake this weekend for you all when/if I see him.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Now, now, think how much you would learn, potatoboy.
 
Posted by will on :
 
"I'm sorry I did not make myself clear; Arend's 2nd payment was instead a fond farewell. The other team had the foresight to get it all up front. All I can say, it's bulls**t to pull funding from a team that well deserved it. I hope UC rots from the inside out for this. And I'll give mopey Ron a firm handshake this weekend for you all when/if I see him."

Well, if the guy is broke, what can he do? Someone had the smarts to get it all upfront, good for them. Do you think they can go after him for not being able to pay the sponsorship fee? Now, that raving pack of "hillbilly" fans might exact some other type justice, which is fine with me, but I seriously doubt anything will happen. Just another casualty of this guy's way of doing business, collateral damge.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
quote:
I hope UC rots from the inside out for this.
If he's gonna rot, I hope it's from the outside in, someone might post a picture of it.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
This is the big problem with this stock. These people post over and over again unproven theories as facts till they are posted so many time that they really believe they are. Repeating a habit or thought over and over for so long and your brain starts to believe even the best of lies. Thats how brainwashing works. Then when ask to back it up with facts its either some other theory or I did my dd you have to do your own. But they never do post cold hard facts to back anything up. Then this unexperienced investor come in here and hear these theories then tell them that it is a fact and post this wild made up stories to make newbies think this is the play of a life time. So what, they did a survey, it takes more then a survey to actually get a product. Billions of dollar of exploration for Debeers. Yet these people really think that they have something. But they have no proof of it because its a secrete that UC must hide it to protect his claim. Bull**it. Quit posting garbage and post proof of your statement. There has been no facts to back up that this company has anything except 30 million in debt, 703 billion shares, and one less drag car.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Well, I didn't follow all that "how many acres did the survey cover". Whose figures were correct , legal's, or Upside's. Seems there was a difference between area and line measurement. Which is correct?
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
As I stated, this has already been argued last year and noone came up with verifiable numbers. The point I was making was that bill made some unverifiable statements at PB32. Now he is finally trying to come up with some proof of his statements, and they just aren't on the mark.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
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Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lanebro:
quote:
Originally posted by will:
NO!
I don't understand the sponsordhip deal, for one, and how in the heck you figure the guy is going to jail. If they put all the people who went broke in jail there would more broke people in there than drug dealers.
Did he pay the 50% upfront, did he pay the 100% upfront on the other car? That really isn't very clear, is it?
Besides does it really matter, they guy's money machine is broke, no more printing allowed with premanent revocation around the corner.
If there are remnants of this pos around for the Chicago October race, maybe I'll go stuff my face with hotdogs and burgers.

I'm sorry I did not make myself clear; Arend's 2nd payment was instead a fond farewell. The other team had the foresight to get it all up front. All I can say, it's bulls**t to pull funding from a team that well deserved it. I hope UC rots from the inside out for this. And I'll give mopey Ron a firm handshake this weekend for you all when/if I see him.
Lanebro, you've been complaining that we had racing teams and now you are complaining that we are paring down the racing teams. You seem very hard to please. Which is it?

Wouldn't it be interesting if Jeff shows up soon in the "GOT CIM?" car

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And this Quote By Jim Dunn....Sweet!!

In my 50-plus years of being involved in drag racing, Urban Casavant is one of the most pleasurable business partners I have ever been associated with,” said Dunn, “
http://www.nhra.com/apcm/templates/team_report.asp?articleid=6319&zoneid=86


Tony Bartone
Jim Dunn Racing/CMKX Monte Carlo
Funny Car


Jim Dunn Racing and CMKX Diamonds ready for Seattle

Seattle, prerace: Tony Bartone, driver of the Jim Dunn Racing/Got CMKX?/Lucas Oil Funny Car, will make his 50th career start in a nitro Funny Car when the NHRA tour returns to Pacific Raceways this weekend for the 18th annual CARQUEST Auto Parts NHRA Nationals.

“I’m looking forward to racing in my 50th national event in Seattle,” said Bartone, who advanced to the final round in Las Vegas earlier this year. “The performance of the Got CMKX?/Lucas Oil car has steadily improved all season long and we want to continue that trend at Pacific Raceways. The Jim Dunn Racing team has forged a strong relationship with Urban Casavant and we would love to reward their support with a victory.”

Bartone, who has won 28 NHRA national events during his drag racing career, enters the CARQUEST Nationals after enjoying one of his best qualifying efforts of the season in Denver last weekend. A former Top Alcohol Funny Car world champion, Bartone has already doubled his career round win total in Funny Car this season. Crew chief and team owner Jim Dunn has also tuned Bartone to his career-best elapsed time and speed.

“The Jim Dunn Racing team has done an excellent job for CMKX,” said Urban Casavant. “Their efforts both on and off the track have combined for great results. The entire team does an outstanding job of representing CMKX and we are proud to support their hard work.

“It is a thrill to be associated with Jim Dunn, a true drag racing icon, and the associate sponsors the team represents. Lucas Oil, Craftsman, Superwinch, Gates Belts and Hose and Cabo Wabo Tequila have created a vast number of cross promotion opportunities. We’re looking forward to some exciting developments in the near future with Sammy Hagar.”

“In my 50-plus years of being involved in drag racing, Urban Casavant is one of the most pleasurable business partners I have ever been associated with,” said Dunn, “Casavant Mining has helped propel our team to the next level with state-of-the-art equipment and a first class pit side hospitality area. We’re looking forward to greeting our fans and guest’s this weekend at Pacific Raceways.”
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
As for the Arend "flap" I think he makes it very clear in his PR that he wants a faster car and was pushing Urban to invest more for the second half of the season. Urban didn't give. Jeff thinks that since he is usually first off the line that he would win more races with better equipment. May be true, maybe a "Got CIM" car would be faster. But whichever, it is difficult to read out of this maneuver by Arend that CMKX is broke and unable to pay; or the "Urban is going to jail." crap has any merit whatsoever.

"The 42-year-old Canadian native advanced to the final round in Bristol and made it to the semifinals in Chicago. Arend also qualified in the No. 2 spot in Englishtown with a career-best 4.792 at 322.19 mph. The former NHRA Funny Car national event champion also established himself as the best driver in the class at the starting line. Going into Denver, Arend had left first on his opponent 75 percent of the time during eliminations. He is currently 13th in the POWERade point standings, just 100 points out of the top 10."
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
If you want to do some amazing DD, find out how much of this Kimberlite 122 that CMKX owns.


Kensington Resources Ltd.: Encouraging Macrodiamond Results for Fort a la Corne Kimberlite 122
16:54 EDT Thursday, July 21, 2005

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VANCOUVER, British Columbia (Business Wire) -- Kensington Resources Ltd. (the "Company") (TSX VENTURE:KRT) announces encouraging macrodiamond recoveries from minibulk sampling at Kimberlite 122 in 2004. A total of 248 macrodiamonds weighing 28.81 carats, including 23 stones larger than 0.25 carats, were recovered from three 36-inch (914 mm) diameter drillholes located on Kimberlite 122 during the 2004 minibulk sampling program on the Fort a la Corne Diamond Project in Saskatchewan.

"The recovery of many stones larger than 0.25 carats and two larger than one carat supports our model of a larger stone population in Kimberlite 122," states Robert A. McCallum, President & CEO of Kensington Resources Ltd. "Diamond recoveries and actual sample grades for stones in the +5 and higher sieve categories from 2004 are comparable to those seen in 2000, although the total carats recovered last year fell short of program expectations. Macrodiamonds recovered in the 2000 program were of high quality and we look forward to receiving the valuations for the 2004 macrodiamonds."
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
It doesn't matter if that Goldak Survey was over all of Canada. Unless they have confirmed finds with diamonds, they have nothing. Until they have confirmed finds, the claims (whoever the hell owns them) have little or no value. Finding or having kimberlite does little to guarantee finding diamonds. It is more likely that finding kimberlite means there are no diamonds as much as finding sea bass would mean there are no diamonds.

Now, to Arend. Who the hell cares how good or bad he is? That Funny Car never put any money into any stockholder's pocket and it never will. If anything, it took money out of shareholders' pockets.

will,

Upside wouldn't have to jump. I'd probably push Upside out the window. He'd be trying to agree, or make it appear that he agreed, with everything I said during the trip. Can you imagine how boring that would be? LOL

PS: Re the above about kimberlite. Then, if diamonds are found, they must be worthwhile and profitable enough to be mined....not miniscule bits as announced. Much, much larger would be required.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Homeland Integrated Security Systems, Inc (PK: HISC) at 0.11, up 0.019 (+20.88%) on 35,993,828 shares. Yesterday Homeland Integrated Security Systems stated that it received a blanket purchase order for over $5.5 million of explosives detection equipment.

That's in addition to a previous contract for $2.5 mil as well as an earlier announcement that HISC had NET INCOME of $585K+. I am sure CMKX can meet and outperform those statistics, huh, legal. I think they closed about .108 today....a far cry from under .0001 as with CMKX and a great move from .004 where I bought it. I don't mind going to the the bank with that kind of profit.

The above was one of today's Blitztrader releases, obviously prior to the close. Also, HISC also projected an expected NET income of around $7 mil for close of 2005. How much has CMKX projected?
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
W) It is more likely that finding kimberlite means there are no diamonds as much as finding sea bass would mean there are no diamonds.

L) You drinking tonight?

W) Now, to Arend. Who the hell cares how good or bad he is? That Funny Car never put any money into any stockholder's pocket and it never will. If anything, it took money out of shareholders' pockets.

L) Seem like CMKXtreme, a private company, owns pays for and controls that sponsorship. So until proven diffently it didn't cost CMKX a dime.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Wallace:
quote:
Upside wouldn't have to jump. I'd probably push Upside out the window. He'd be trying to agree, or make it appear that he agreed, with everything I said during the trip. Can you imagine how boring that would be? LOL
Dang, you really do have me pegged!
 
Posted by will on :
 
I'll go with ya UpMan, just to keep things balanced. It's easy for me to be disagreeable, comtemptible even. Actually it's a pleasure. LOL
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Disagreeable defines your personality. As does rotting, disgusting, vile, malicious and many, many other adjectives that are escaping me right now.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
L) You drinking tonight?

W: Never started. Always the sober driver.

L) Seem like CMKXtreme, a private company, owns pays for and controls that sponsorship. So until proven diffently it didn't cost CMKX a dime.

W: A more likely scenario is that "until proven differently" it cost CMKX shareholders a bundle, since the monies probably came from UC dumping their company's shares on the market.

Upman,

Just kidding above. Will would be better company anyway. He's a laugh a minute.
 
Posted by will on :
 
SO ?

legal loves me, he even said I was an old softie. Didn't really like that choice of words, but I'm sure he meant I am kind and generous.
Think he tried to sneak some of that toilet humor he's famous for in there?
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Not sure how accurate or old this is but if true it throws out the fact that UC owns much in this company. He issued himself 32 billion and sold 31 billion for a kool 3.1 million profit if you figue he avg. .0001. Looks like most of Casavants family was smart and dump there free shares.


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Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Wallace:
quote:
Will would be better company anyway. He's a laugh a minute.
Yeah, for about a minute. Spend a day with him. After that fun filled first minute is up, you'll be looking for an escape route.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
LOL, like will suggested, there's always the window! Reminds me of an old joke:

Heavy set woman and husband on a long trip and she kept harping at husband to stop so she could go to bathroom. Since he had stopped about 5 times that day already he was frustrated and told her to just stick her butt out the window and go. She did. Truckers behind on CBs saw all and one said to the other, "Did you see how ugly that sucker was that stuck his head out and spit out the window"? "Yeah," the other said, "but did you see the size of the jaws on that guy?"

Good night all. PEACE!!
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
hi wallace i missed you. where have you been all day?
 
Posted by Otttoman on :
 
That's the dumbest joke I've ever heard, and I've heard them all. Did you just make that one up to make yourself look clever? Didn't work. Your attempt at humor was the funniest part. LOL
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
http://tinypic.com/97slrt.jpg

Here is the detai;ed account where UC dumped his shares on us. 31 billion shares he surrendered at a price of .0003 to .0004. Meaning UC made a kool 10 million dollars off us. What a guy.


CMKX CMKM DIAMONDS INC

HISTORICAL QUOTES
DATE CLOSE HIGH LOW OPEN VOLUME
7/22/2004 0.0005 0.0006 0.0004 0.0005 "205,771,000"
7/23/2004 0.0004 0.0006 0.0003 0.0005 "604,495,700"
7/26/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "3,775,941,000"
7/27/2004 0.0005 0.0005 0.0003 0.0004 "4,293,431,000"
7/28/2004 0.0003 0.0005 0.0003 0.0005 "685,754,600"
7/29/2004 0.0004 0.0005 0.0003 0.0004 "372,453,800"
7/30/2004 0.0004 0.0005 0.0003 0.0004 "888,284,800"
8/2/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "3,900,841,000"
8/3/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "3,813,780,000"
8/4/2004 0.0003 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "3,624,964,000"
8/5/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "3,533,073,000"
8/6/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "3,877,017,000"
8/9/2004 0.0004 0.0040 0.0003 0.0004 "1,675,689,000"
8/10/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "411,246,800"
8/11/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "4,229,295,000"
8/12/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "2,432,942,000"
8/13/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "183,864,700"
8/16/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "2,179,906,000"
8/17/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "624,522,500"
8/18/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "2,439,471,000"
8/19/2004 0.0004 0.0005 0.0003 0.0003 "2,926,085,000"
8/20/2004 0.0003 0.0040 0.0001 0.0004 "4,238,632,000"
8/23/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0002 0.0004 "1,427,675,000"
8/24/2004 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0004 "3,866,031,000"
8/25/2004 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 "3,772,508,000"
8/26/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 "3,248,799,000"
8/27/2004 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 "2,396,293,000"
8/30/2004 0.0003 0.0030 0.0002 0.0003 "2,449,024,000"
8/31/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 "3,752,840,000"
9/1/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 "1,225,108,000"
9/2/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 "4,029,498,000"
9/3/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "2,966,725,000"
9/7/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "3,803,706,000"
9/8/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "2,232,782,000"
9/9/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "1,670,673,000"
9/10/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0003 0.0004 "2,501,717,000"
9/13/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0002 0.0004 "3,866,620,000"
9/14/2004 0.0003 0.0030 0.0002 0.0004 "3,145,473,000"
9/15/2004 0.0004 0.0004 0.0002 0.0003 "2,135,088,000"
9/16/2004 0.0003 0.0004 0.0002 0.0004 "2,427,707,000"
9/17/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 "1,665,759,000"
9/20/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 "2,527,608,000"
9/21/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 "1,603,216,000"
9/22/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 "1,867,623,000"
9/23/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 "2,456,183,000"
9/24/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 "1,559,510,000"
9/27/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 "3,364,743,000"
9/28/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 "957,565,600"
9/29/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 "2,525,295,000"
9/30/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 "4,206,607,000"
10/1/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 "1,998,395,000"
10/4/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0003 "581,282,100"
10/5/2004 0.0002 0.0003 0.0001 0.0003 "3,830,114,000"
10/6/2004 0.0002 0.0003 0.0001 0.0003 "2,510,979,000"
10/7/2004 0.0003 0.0003 0.0002 0.0002 "1,432,691,000"
10/8/2004 0.0002 0.0003 0.0001 0.0003 "81,965,050"
10/11/2004 0.0002 0.0003 0.0001 0.0002 "2,500,136,000"
10/12/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "3,701,465,000"
10/13/2004 0.0002 0.0003 0.0001 0.0002 "1,058,467,000"
10/14/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "2,169,107,000"
10/15/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "3,753,134,000"
10/18/2004 0.0002 0.0003 0.0001 0.0003 "478,499,300"
10/19/2004 0.0002 0.0003 0.0001 0.0002 "3,845,819,000"
10/20/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "2,428,382,000"
10/21/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,920,481,000"
10/22/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "3,608,379,000"
10/25/2004 0.0002 0.0003 0.0001 0.0002 "4,010,309,000"
10/26/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "2,940,081,000"
10/27/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "3,990,317,000"
10/28/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "2,170,776,000"
10/29/2004 0.0002 0.0003 0.0001 0.0002 "1,710,833,000"
11/1/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "482,072,100"
11/2/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "3,703,022,000"
11/3/2004 0.0002 0.0003 0.0001 0.0002 "2,556,789,000"
11/4/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,711,402,000"
11/5/2004 0.0002 0.0020 0.0001 0.0002 "3,602,748,000"
11/8/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "2,184,481,000"
11/9/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "2,269,372,000"
11/10/2004 0.0002 0.0020 0.0001 0.0002 "1,818,574,000"
11/11/2004 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,307,113,000"
11/12/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,018,385,000"
11/15/2004 0.0002 0.0020 0.0001 0.0002 "2,118,025,000"
11/16/2004 0.0002 0.0003 0.0001 0.0002 "1,307,543,000"
11/17/2004 0.0002 0.0003 0.0001 0.0003 "1,655,709,000"
11/18/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "2,228,745,000"
11/19/2004 0.0001 0.0003 0.0001 0.0001 "1,439,160,000"
11/22/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "2,053,858,000"
11/23/2004 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,213,524,000"
11/24/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,185,381,000"
11/26/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,290,764,000"
11/29/2004 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,616,852,000"
11/30/2004 0.0002 0.0017 0.0001 0.0002 "1,631,115,000"
12/1/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,713,769,000"
12/2/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,395,331,000"
12/3/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,448,466,000"
12/6/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,585,922,000"
12/7/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,894,729,000"
12/8/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "1,146,716,000"
12/9/2004 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "996,357,500"
12/10/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "460,363,100"
12/13/2004 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,119,793,000"
12/14/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,043,784,000"
12/15/2004 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "2,117,823,000"
12/16/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "265,328,000"
12/17/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,122,506,000"
12/20/2004 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "4,156,941,000"
12/21/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,634,067,000"
12/22/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "580,942,000"
12/23/2004 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "3,592,673,000"
12/27/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "2,065,629,000"
12/28/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "970,022,700"
12/29/2004 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,617,875,000"
12/30/2004 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "3,742,786,000"
12/31/2004 0.0002 0.0020 0.0001 0.0002 "2,637,489,000"
1/3/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "4,269,940,000"
1/4/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "3,981,335,000"
1/5/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "594,677,400"
1/6/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "943,057,000"
1/7/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "778,090,000"
1/10/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,842,619,000"
1/11/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,623,629,000"
1/12/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "3,497,923,000"
1/13/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "749,084,700"
1/14/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,992,100,000"
1/18/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "2,634,022,000"
1/19/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "2,140,716,000"
1/20/2005 0.0001 0.0009 0.0001 0.0002 "322,804,400"
1/21/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "2,936,599,000"
1/24/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,892,773,000"
1/25/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "1,213,719,000"
1/26/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,229,962,000"
1/27/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,721,293,000"
1/28/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "2,341,315,000"
1/31/2005 0.0002 0.0003 0.0001 0.0001 "2,103,751,000"
2/1/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "994,939,100"
2/2/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,566,014,000"
2/3/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "2,914,884,000"
2/4/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "554,289,600"
2/7/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,637,561,000"
2/8/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,402,422,000"
2/9/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,423,389,000"
2/10/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,297,041,000"
2/11/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,994,381,000"
2/14/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "3,359,105,000"
2/15/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "1,768,460,000"
2/16/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,971,988,000"
2/17/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,489,190,000"
2/18/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "3,447,242,000"
2/22/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "2,461,842,000"
2/23/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "1,175,448,000"
2/24/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,635,356,000"
2/25/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "3,053,550,000"
2/28/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "1,585,789,000"
3/1/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "76,216,700"
3/2/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "3,236,485,000"
3/3/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 "5,000,000"
3/4/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0
3/7/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0
3/8/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0
3/9/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0
3/10/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0
3/11/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0
3/14/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0
3/15/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0
3/16/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0.0002 0
3/17/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "4,064,381,000"
3/18/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "3,303,173,000"
3/21/2005 0.0002 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "1,399,590,000"
3/22/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "2,083,966,000"
3/23/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "1,757,974,000"
3/24/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0002 "3,057,136,000"
3/28/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "1,663,684,000"
3/29/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "1,860,766,000"
3/30/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "3,512,233,000"
3/31/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "2,871,548,000"
4/1/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "1,647,991,000"
4/4/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "1,661,128,000"
4/5/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,223,159,000"
4/6/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "759,414,100"
4/7/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "2,388,212,000"
4/8/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,248,549,000"
4/11/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "2,350,479,000"
4/12/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "951,830,600"
4/13/2005 0.0001 0.0006 0.0001 0.0001 "3,458,662,000"
4/14/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "683,975,900"
4/15/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "934,034,500"
4/18/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,017,828,000"
4/19/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "2,356,731,000"
4/20/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,714,236,000"
4/21/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "3,749,739,000"
4/22/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "3,424,080,000"
4/25/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "2,149,660,000"
4/26/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "3,634,942,000"
4/27/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "3,946,655,000"
4/28/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,533,164,000"
4/29/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "2,721,273,000"
5/2/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "2,792,345,000"
5/3/2005 0.0001 0.0006 0.0001 0.0001 "1,693,096,000"
5/4/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "2,306,535,000"
5/5/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,594,022,000"
5/6/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "3,201,687,000"
5/9/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "3,141,553,000"
5/10/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "2,326,978,000"
5/11/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,569,161,000"
5/12/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "929,380,400"
5/13/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "972,717,200"
5/16/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,682,579,000"
5/17/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,136,184,000"
5/18/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,387,256,000"
5/19/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "919,678,100"
5/20/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,070,963,000"
5/23/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "450,768,000"
5/24/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "426,864,900"
5/25/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "615,137,600"
5/26/2005 0.0001 0.0009 0.0001 0.0001 "1,018,460,000"
5/27/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "2,656,188,000"
5/31/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "610,592,900"
6/1/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "813,443,500"
6/2/2005 0.0001 0.0008 0.0001 0.0001 "398,411,500"
6/3/2005 0.0001 0.0007 0.0001 0.0001 "457,234,000"
6/6/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "708,533,400"
6/7/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "2,021,657,000"
6/8/2005 0.0001 0.0006 0.0001 0.0001 "443,343,300"
6/9/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "823,083,300"
6/10/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "467,037,500"
6/13/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,298,406,000"
6/14/2005 0.0001 0.0004 0.0001 0.0001 "545,366,700"
6/15/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "816,275,600"
6/16/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "855,996,400"
6/17/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "856,069,500"
6/20/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "964,901,400"
6/21/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "846,559,400"
6/22/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "452,113,300"
6/23/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "554,692,800"
6/24/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "482,382,100"
6/27/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "244,433,100"
6/28/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "467,016,300"
6/29/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "271,740,100"
6/30/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "605,336,500"
7/1/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "277,470,000"
7/5/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "599,682,200"
7/6/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "281,859,000"
7/7/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,076,648,000"
7/8/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "540,099,700"
7/11/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "589,628,900"
7/12/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,741,449,000"
7/13/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,833,591,000"
7/14/2005 0.0001 0.0004 0.0001 0.0001 "1,834,468,000"
7/15/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,438,628,000"
7/18/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "1,523,859,000"
7/19/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "863,936,300"
7/20/2005 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 0.0001 "539,074,000"
7/21/2005 0.0001 0.0002 0.0001 0.0001 "684,831,200"
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Casavant family Con. Convince the koolaid drinkers to buy and hold while they issue themselves free shares and sell.

The information is ~~~ As Of 12/31/2004


The Casavant Family

Page 60 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97sks5.jpg

Page 61 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97skuw.jpg

Page 62 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97sl4z.jpg

Page 63 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97slck.jpg

Page 64 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97slft.jpg

Page 65 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97sllu.jpg

Page 66 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97slrt.jpg

Page 67 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97sly0.jpg

Page 68 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97sm0y.jpg

Page 68 Consolidated ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97snmd.jpg[/b]
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
jw
Diamondologist

Posts: 345
Re: Casavant family document showing ownership
« Reply #11 on Yesterday at 11:43pm »

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pedro got the MASTER SHAREHOLDERS LIST

under the freedom of information act

i belive it was a exibit from the trial

finally proves that we been lied to all along


sorry but proof is in the pudding

and today we seen it


sorry to all my cmkx share holders
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
jw
Diamondologist

Posts: 345
Re: Casavant family document showing ownership
« Reply #21 on Today at 12:36am »

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actually here more daming evidence

you be the judge

so when ya go to the races ask urban about this crap

cats outta the bag now


Click on these links to see more of the Master List:

Page 1 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97tcwi.jpg


71st Street Holdings, Florida
Page 2 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97td2q.jpg
Page 3 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97td83.jpg


AG Enterprises, Inc., Nevada ~~~ http://tinyurl.com/aqy4j
Alberta Resources Consortium, Nevada
Albert Finch & Assoc., Nevada
Page 7 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97taxg.jpg
Page 8 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97tb3p.jpg


The Casavant Family

Page 60 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97sks5.jpg
Page 61 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97skuw.jpg
Page 62 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97sl4z.jpg
Page 63 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97slck.jpg
Page 64 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97slft.jpg
Page 65 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97sllu.jpg
Page 66 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97slrt.jpg
Page 67 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97sly0.jpg
Page 68 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97sm0y.jpg

Page 68 Consolidated ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97snmd.jpg
Computer Clearing Services, California ~~~ http://tinyurl.com/by385

Page 125 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97sntg.jpg
Page 126 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97so52.jpg
Page 127 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97sos9.jpg
Page 128 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97soxj.jpg
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Page 133 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97t9q8.jpg


Duval, Inc., Bahamas
Page 159 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97tac7.jpg
Eton Properties Corp., Nevada ~~~ http://tinyurl.com/9pved
Page 168 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97sif9.jpg
Page 169 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97skdu.jpg


http://www.machcobra.com/board/showthread.php?t=61
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Bill you have been talking about other evidence of violations that they could have went with if needed. I think this probably would have been a big piece of the pie if they had to bring out the big dogs. P&D big time.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
lmao...ya know...i hate seeing ppl lose so much cash, it almost hurts me yet when i get legal & cobra acting like nothing i said had any proof because the amount of acres i stated & i said it was from memory, was wrong i get a bit hot under the collar. out of all the things i stated 1 thing MIGHT have been wrong. i find it hard to believe that survey covered 2.1 million acres, the cost would have been huge. i still remember something that stated a 70,000 acres number, just dont remember where it was from.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
Ric...notice the dates on the last page??? right thru the end of December, 2004. lets see now, the SEC contacted CMKX about the form 15 from 2003 in the beginning of December, about 10 billion shares were dumped on that 1 page just in december. i love the page with the casavant family...12.4 billion shares left...in the whole damn family. the most they had was 61.4 billion. lets see, using first grade math & having a 703 billion o/s, why by golly they never owned 10% & as of the date of this list they own less then 2%....lets see which would i rather be wrong about, the number of acres in the goldtac survey or if UC owned 51% of the o/s...thats a hard choice but i think i'll go with acres in goldtac's survey.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
as i have always stated, i give credit when due, pedro is 1 of the big pumpers, lots of out there theories yet he had the guts to post this. why to go pedro, good job. glad to see fact & truth not lose out to cult dreams. we do know of course someone will be saying he has been buying back at an even lower pps the last few months & now owns well over 51%...no. thats not it...UC owns the entire o/s in street name...thats the ticket.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Eton properties of Vegas made a small fortune selling CMKX. Please someone tell me what they did to get it looks like close to 10's of millions of shares sold?

Eton Properties Corp., Nevada ~~~ http://tinyurl.com/9pved
Page 168 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97sif9.jpg
Page 169 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/97skdu.jpg
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
wanna bet it was a buddy of UC's Ric???..lol maybe thats UC's down payment on the office/home. that way its a tax write off too.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
They sold 1.2 billion share alone on 8/20/2004 between .0003 to .0005. Even if all they got was .0003 then thats 360,000 dollars for that one day. Volume that day was over 4 billion by the way.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Just wondering if that was for his house? Could we say fraud?
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
i count close to 30 billion shares on those 2 pages Ric
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
And alot of those where at the high of the stock. So if you figure they avg. .0005 then thats 15 million dollars.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
if he averaged .0002 thats $6 million in cash.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
by the way..legal & cobra head off to sweet dreams tonight??? i'd love to see what pb32 is saying about now...lol
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
500 billion shares on 4/30/2004????? Did they dump the shares for UC??????

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Posted by bill1352 on :
 
looks like computer clearing service had a field day dumping shares...i hope they had extra computers running to count all those shares.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
that must be the clearing house UC used to spread them thru the market
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
And the cult tries and claims shorting for the volumes. Just check dates of the above to volume chart.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
That right there proves that at least 500 billion shares went to float.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well, i'm off to bed. i hate to say it but i think the chit just hit the fan for the cult. if i'm UC & i found out the OG has this info i'd stay in S.A.....by the way didn't frizzy have this list??? john martin had to see it. but never bring it to the OG's attention??? must be what the confidentialty papers were for. but if i'm a lawyer that cared about my clients i'd let them know they need to stop buying shares.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Dilution of the last 500 billon shares went to float so where did the money go this was over a period of time when the pps was a lot higher. I figure they at least avg. .0003 with this. So where is the 150 million dollars at? Of course, it takes around 25 million to sponsor a full year on a drag car. Two drag cars and a motorcycle. Billboard at a Nascar race. And those nasty slot machines were he met his partners.

quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
500 billion shares on 4/30/2004????? Did they dump the shares for UC??????

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Posted by Ric on :
 
EyeSpy
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Re: Casavant family document showing ownership
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Notice the name Sterling Collins & Sterling Collins II on this one sheet. Is this the same Sterling on Paltalk & RB? I understand he also lives in San Antonio.

Also, has anyone spotted their name and holdings on any these papers? The Master List is incomplete; I don't see mine listed.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Now tell me how they increased the authorized without shareholder approval! Had to be something special (like a voting arrangement or a controlling preferred stock) or UC et al violated legal requirements for shareholder approvals. Could be his reason for taking the 5th. If this thing is not a fradulent SCAM, I have have no idea as to how to label it.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
well, i'm off to bed. i hate to say it but i think the chit just hit the fan for the cult. if i'm UC & i found out the OG has this info i'd stay in S.A.....by the way didn't frizzy have this list??? john martin had to see it. but never bring it to the OG's attention??? must be what the confidentialty papers were for. but if i'm a lawyer that cared about my clients i'd let them know they need to stop buying shares.

Obvious question there, bill, is did they serve their clients or did they (Frizzy and Martin) have another venue?
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Cobra, you are sounding all too familiar. What name did you post here under before you took the name Cobra? Of course, a cobra is a poisonous viper, huh?

Talk to you folks later.

PS: WOW!! This CMKX stock is really loads of laughable fun and a learning experience for many, many people who claim to know how to do DD.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
It was Sterling from RB. He admitted it. 9 billion shares to pump this. Willy should be jealous because he got under a billion lol. What a cool deal for Sterling. Hey at least everyone has his address now to serve him with the subpoena for his role in this scam.

By: stervc
22 Jul 2005, 07:14 AM EDT
Msg. 240953 of 240964
(This msg. is a reply to 240934 by Sugarpaw.)
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Sugarpaw, about that Share List...

Hopefully people can now see that I was telling the truth. Urban did not give me 6 Billion shares or whatever the amount that some people were trying to say. It shows the 3,000,000 restricted shares as a gift as I had stated during that "pay it forward" fiasco.

To add, I have no idea who is Richard Collins that lives in Chicago who got 29,900,000 shares and has thus far surrendered (or sold) 5,000,000 shares, before inquiring minds begin to insinuate more things that are not true either.

To further add, Shanara Collins is my daughter in college and Sterling V. Collins II is my son who is now in the Air Force too. As you can see, no shares have been surrendered by me or my kids as it states which means that none of those shares have been sold. Again, it shows the 3,000,000 shares restricted. Please don't take what I had stated in the past the wrong way when I stated that 3,000,000 shares restricted of CMKX does not do a whole lot for my portfolio. I was not trying being arrogant, but it doesn’t as I was simply trying to prove a point.

Here are some old posts to read to refresh some thoughts of that pay it forward situation back then to help people further know the facts:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=117409
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=70266
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=70263
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=147067
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=143927

From seeing all of the things that have been brought out in the light up to this point with CMKX, many people were given many shares for many reasons. Hopefully people can now see that I was telling the truth back then although I do see why many had thought why I might not have been telling the truth. I understand as I was not mad at them back then and I am not mad at them right now either.

All is well!
http://www.sterlingsclass.com/
;-)
Sterling
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
you are looking to much at the animal world.
COBRACOBRA

Do some more DD.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Wanted to let you all have your fun, but "surrendered" does not necessarily mean "sold". Retiring shares, something Urban told us he was doing, could also be "surrendered". Transferring shares to another "Casavant Controlled Company" would also be "surrendered". 40 billion of Urban's shares were transferred to Nevada Minerals as part of the buyin deal as was PR'd. But of course, you all immediately, use a piece of incomplete information, to twist into a charge of "scam".
 
Posted by glassman on :
 
you mean this wasn't a scam Legal??? [Confused]
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Since this information was held by the SEC, and it was evidence of a "scam" or pump and dump, why didn't they bring charges against Urban or at least use it in the hearing to clearly demonstrate to the judge what was going on?
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
you mean this wasn't a scam Legal??? [Confused]

Glass, none of us can say whether it was or wasn't a scam until we have more information. That is my problem with Wallace and the Merry Men. They take any little piece of information that can be twisted and try to twist it into "SCAM". On the other hand, my background taught me to wait until all of the evidence is in, before you start making criminal accusations against a person. Diamond exploration is a "complex" world, it can't be interpreted by a "simple" mind.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Get off the koolaid Legal. His whole family dumped and it also showed where the last 500 billion went to and it wasn't to JV's, sellers or UC. It was to market. And if you don't see it then you are really drinking too much. If you really want to believe that someone that has mislead you all the way gave his shares away instead of selling them then you are really sucked in and need help. It still remains that he only owned 1.2 billion after it was all said and done.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Legaleagle:
quote:
Since this information was held by the SEC, and it was evidence of a "scam" or pump and dump, why didn't they bring charges against Urban
All in due time....
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Here's a good post by Sugarpaw in support of what I am saying.


By: Sugarpaw
22 Jul 2005, 07:04 AM EDT
Msg. 240948 of 241088
(This msg. is a reply to 240934 by Sugarpaw.)
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Re: Casavant family document

another good post from PB32 by rbitulsa. Link below. ) Sugarpaw

rbitulsa:
I have cert shares in my safe. On the T/A list, I will be shown as having been issued those shares. If I were to send those certs to my broker, to put into my trading account, the next T/A list that came out would show that I surrendered my shares. I did not sell them. I put them into street name, so I could trade them.

Point: Anyone here who chooses to replace "surrender" with "sell" is simply dead wrong. Yes, after the S-Restriction is removed and/or after they have surrendered the cert, they have the legal OPTION (and the right) to sell the shares. The "affiliate" insiders have to follow rules, pertaining to how many they can sell at a time (you can find those limits in Roger Glenn's Corporate Responsibilities paper). An insider with the option/right to sell shares shouldn't be shocking or disturbing to anyone.

Nothing anywhere in this list of issued and surrendered certs shows one insider selling one share period.

We know of approx. 61.5 billion shares issued to Casavants in cert form. We know 31 billion of UC's shares were surrendered for the Nevada Minerals deal, and as of last report, had been returned to the treasury in exchange for cash to Ed Dhonau. Of the remaining appx. 31.5 billion, we can see that 18 billion have been surrendered and some 12.5 billion are still held in cert form, so we know that the Casavants moved around 57% of their share out of their own name - these could have been sold back to the company, or they could be in the Casavants' brokerage accounts (I assume they have brokerage accounts), and held 43% of the shares they were issued in cert form (as of the report date). It also looks obvious that UC likely controls the numbered companies, and maybe some other entities on the list as well.

Simple fact is, this list tells us a whole lot of nothing.

http://cmkxdiamond.********s32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1121994035&page=3
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
They said why in court. They mentioned this. But they said that they were keeping it a filing error unless the court did let other evidence in. Also if you look at the original complaint filed by the SEC they did list illegal trading patterns.


quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
Since this information was held by the SEC, and it was evidence of a "scam" or pump and dump, why didn't they bring charges against Urban or at least use it in the hearing to clearly demonstrate to the judge what was going on?


 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
Get off the koolaid Legal. His whole family dumped and it also showed where the last 500 billion went to and it wasn't to JV's, sellers or UC. It was to market. And if you don't see it then you are really drinking too much. If you really want to believe that someone that has mislead you all the way gave his shares away instead of selling them then you are really sucked in and need help. It still remains that he only owned 1.2 billion after it was all said and done.

You are forgetting, Ric, that this only applies to "certed" shares. Do you have a record of their "street shares" held in personal accounts? I hold certs, but if I sent them back into my Ameritrade account, they would be "surrendered", but I still own them.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Legaleagle:
quote:
Diamond exploration is a "complex" world, it can't be interpreted by a "simple" mind.
Is that why Urban failed so miserably at it? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Posted by Legaleagle:
quote:
Diamond exploration is a "complex" world, it can't be interpreted by a "simple" mind.
Is that why Urban failed so miserably at it? [Big Grin]
Still jumping to unsupported conclusions that he failed, Up.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Well just by sending your shares to brokers doesn't mean they will change shareholder of record but if they did it would matter in UC's case because he can't hold shares in street name. It would be illegal in his case. He would either have to sell them, or give them back to treasury. But if you look at volume the day he surrendered his shares volume increased dramatically. That should prove to a person what happened if you weren't afraid to hear the truth.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
remember the drug commercial with the egg & the frying pan???? well this is the text version....


This is your brain on CMKX Kool-aide.....

"Simple fact is, this list tells us a whole lot of nothing."
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Occam's Razor states that one should make no more assumptions than needed. When multiple explanations are available for a (Any state or process known through the senses rather than by intuition or reasoning) phenomenon, the simplest version is preferred. A charred tree on the ground could be caused by a landing alien ship or a lightning strike. According to Occam's Razor, the lightning strike is the preferred explanation as it requires the fewest assumptions
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
the problem with facts in the cults world is only those that back their position count. it doesn't matter if those so called facts have any real meaning. to qualify as a fact to the cult all it has to do is land in the realm of it has possible meanings of good things, thus the long draw out lists of who know's who & who has done what in the past. even the claims are based on possible value because they are next to real finds as pr cmkx prs. not 1 fact in cult world is based on concrete money in the bank. yet when handed concrete fact that something is wrong, things are not adding up to future cash gains, that somebody is erasing any possible facts your told you have no facts. your told just because its in black & white it doesn't mean what it says. you have to think in a differant way. it had to be stated like that our it would hurt our future. truth is not even 2 yr olds are so dence.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
ya half expect to hear a news item about the cmkx cult member at a lottery office screaming those numbers cant be right because they dont match my ticket.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Legaleagle:
quote:
Still jumping to unsupported conclusions that he failed, Up.
Well, I guess the final bell hasn't rung yet but come on, everything, and I mean everything that's coming to light is pointing straight at this being a scam of epic proportions. I don't believe this is going to end with a mere revocation, that would be an insult to everyone that got snookered by this con man. If this guy took some 60,000 shareholders, a good portion of them novice investors, and ran off with their money like it appears he did, some type of justice has to be meted out.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
One thing that is being examined on the boards is that, if the government issued this list under a FOIA, then the SS# would have been redacted. To issue the personals in a public document would have been a serious Federal criminal act. So the source of this document should be under careful scrutiny. Since the markings show that it is an EXHIBIT, it may be related to the hearing, and is probably a genuine Federal Document. However, the source that gave it to Pedro should be examined.

This is a serious issue to each of us that own or have owned, CMKX, as your SS# may soon be published to the world.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I agree with that Legal. SSN's should have never been included. Address unfortunately are always on public documents.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
some of the SS#'s are zeroed out but some are not. maybe ya found a way to get your cmkx money back, at least those that were not zeroed out. if i held certs i'd want to see the entire list & not some scanned copy, a true copy so that i could check if my number was zeroed or not.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
notice none of the casavant family has ss#'s...sterlings is there but his family's is not. some that are there have sold everything others. but since that post does not include the entire list i would want to see it if i was a cert holder.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
legal wrote: "Diamond exploration is a "complex" world, it can't be interpreted by a "simple" mind."

That's what we have been telling you cult members for a long time, legal, but you and other faithfuls are still "hanging" in there with it no matter how "simple" your minds.

I hope they do show faithful cult members SS#s. Might teach them more of a lesson than to trust a scam, pumping crook who belonged in jail a long time ago.

You people who have been pumping the sh:t out of that stock deserve to lose more than your money. You brought innocents into the picture by pumping it so avidly. Meanwhile, others have been pumping and dumping and you supported those actions by your stupidity.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Where the hell are Frizzy's, Martin's or Stoecklein's comments now? What excuses will they make for not telling you faithful cult members? Frizzy was representing the OG members. He had a responsibility and DUTY to inform them of the above mentioned trades if he knew about them.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
Where the hell are Frizzy's, Martin's or Stoecklein's comments now? What excuses will they make for not telling you faithful cult members? Frizzy was representing the OG members. He had a responsibility and DUTY to inform them of the above mentioned trades if he knew about them.

Some people "think" before they respond.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Frizzell also has a disclosure agreement with Stoecklein, that he has to honor.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Legal, no thinking required, as you have well demonstrated by your posts, your initial $25, your trip to DC, your 2nd $25, your support of picketing the DTCC, by your pumping and by you supporting the pumpers, dumpers and crooks.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
If that information was part of the Hearings records, then Frizzy almost certainly knew about it. Why didn't he tell you OGers? Bet he's been setting you all up for a class action suit against UC and cohorts all along. Remember his questioning certain events in his prior comments?
Why did he keep those events to himself?

Bet Glenn knew about all those stock transactions too! Was he or his law firm on the list of sellers?

You OGers, faithful and cult members should show some intelligence and begin asking a few of the many obvious questions.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Posted by Legaleagle:
quote:
Some people "think" before they respond.
I don't. Heck, this meaningless post proves it.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
If that information was part of the Hearings records, then Frizzy almost certainly knew about it. Why didn't he tell you OGers? Bet he's been setting you all up for a class action suit against UC and cohorts all along. Remember his questioning certain events in his prior comments?
Why did he keep those events to himself?

Bet Glenn knew about all those stock transactions too! Was he or his law firm on the list of sellers?

You OGers, faithful and cult members should show some intelligence and begin asking a few of the many obvious questions.

OK, I'll say it again, Frizzell had a disclosure agreement with Stoecklein for the free flow of information between attornies.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
legal,

When are you going to stop making excuses for all those people you admire and worship? If true, he should never had made such an agreement. He represented the OGers, not CMKX as Stoecklein did. He did, however, make it quite clear that he favored CMKX, UC et al. Never should have done that though.

PS: You see, that was the mistake the OG, faithful, cult members made (as well as a multitude of others). They conveyed their preferences toward CMKX as opposed to an objective, INDEPENDENT representation by Frizzy.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
legal,

When are you going to stop making excuses for all those people you admire and worship? If true, he should never had made such an agreement. He represented the OGers, not CMKX as Stoecklein did. He did, however, make it quite clear that he favored CMKX, UC et al. Never should have done that though.

PS: You see, that was the mistake the OG, faithful, cult members made (as well as a multitude of others). They conveyed their preferences toward CMKX as opposed to an objective, INDEPENDENT representation by Frizzy.

It was in the best interest of shareholders to have a free flow of information between the attornies.

Stoecklein and Frizzell should have conferred with you before making any legal or tactical decisions, I guess.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Come on Wallace et.al., gotta try harder. CMKX volume only 160 mil. Nobody is panic selling.
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
hey easy on wallace he is giving it his all, he just cant do much in his situation, he has nothing but bash, nothing to do but complain about OUR money and where WE put it. So tell me wallace (You wall Street Ace you) what is your pick for today? I need your leadership and just dont know it. We all must know what the GURU picks. there is 1.5 hours left in the trading day gimme a good one and prove your worth. All i see is bash, never a good pick offered up to the newbies as an alternative to CMKX. Tell us one YOU believe in, you know what one i believe in.
COBRA
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
USCA moving up good again today. Maybe their filing is about to emerge.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
"Stoecklein and Frizzell should have conferred with you before making any legal or tactical decisions, I guess."

Now, legal, you are beginning to show some intelligence.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Viper, what name did you use here on Allstocks prior to using Cobra?

Have you noticed any of us doing that elsewhere. Just people (????) like you and noahltl. Just keep posting. Someone will figure your prior ID out.

Your use of "wall street Ace" is a good clue.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
LMAO!!! Legal's having a baby:

"USCA moving up good again today. Maybe their filing is about to emerge."
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Hmmmmm...looks like the dilation is about 10 CM, got a while to go yet. Hope the pains arent too severe.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
ed, quit looking at that
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Frizzell update is out, but he has asked members not to post it on the message boards.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Like it can be kept a secret.

FRIZZELL LAW FIRM
305 S. Broadway, Suite 302
Tyler, Texas 75702
(903)595-1921
E-Mail jmartin@cmkxownersgroup.com


Dear Group Members, July 22, 2005


Audit Monitoring


Many thanks to those who have responded to my call for accounting/auditing assistance. I am comforted in knowing that I can always count on this group when a need arises. If you have auditing or accounting experience and wish to participate, please put together a brief resume/business profile and send it to jmartin@cmkxownersgroup.com, I would greatly appreciate it. I am not inspecting for style points here. This is for my eyes only. I will most likely ask one of you to be the official inquirer. I would like to have an unofficial committee composed of the remainder of you who have expressed a desire to help. Asking the right questions at this time could be very helpful to our cause. I do not want the company to have any doubts that we are more than just concerned about the progress of this audit. Depending on the size of the committee we might arrange a private room on the internet to share ideas for confirming the progress of the audit. Maybe a list of inquiry areas can be provided to the designated inquirer before each “review session”. I will be asking Mr. Stoecklein for his agreement to our monitoring once I have received this requested information. He has already agreed in principal but wants to review the specifics of my request. I would like to discuss this with Mr. Stoecklein on Monday so get any resumes/profiles headed this way.


Phase I Accounting


John has asked me to do a general accounting of the proceeds received from Phase I. Beginning the first week of April, John posted the original agreement asking for a $25 contribution from shareholders to have representation in the administrative proceeding. We also began the process of gathering shareholder information to help determine the number of outstanding shares of company stock. My representation per this agreement concluded on July 12, 2005 when Judge Murray handed down her decision.

Approximately 5,700 shareholders joined the group. 4,300 members made a $25.00 contribution. There were a few that contributed more than $25.00. Contributions totaled approximately $107,000.


Travel Expenses - Washington, D.C. (three days, two nights) Las Vegas (three days, two nights) Los Angeles (four days, three nights)

$4,000


Labor Costs - At the height of the shareholder information gathering, additional office staff (much of it through a temp agency) was needed to gather, collate and input shareholder documents. As many as 15 people were being paid hourly for a couple of weeks. This includes investigators, consulting attorney fees, and added clerical help since April 1, 2005.

$25,000


Supplies - The fax in program exceeded the cost estimate significantly. Many shareholder statements were faxed more than once. Many people faxed to the wrong fax machine causing us to refax to the dedicated fax lines. Emailed statements required us to printout from our computer and then fax the documents into the dedicated fax system. We have gathered, filed and stored over 200,000 pages of shareholder information. Toner cartridges, fax paper, etc…. An individual paper file was opened on each shareholder (5,700). (We are now relying on digital files). File folders, labels, etc. I am also including the mailing expenses (postage) associated with the fax in campaign.

$12,000


Hardware, Software and Technical Assistance - To record and document the shareholder information, we hired several computer savvy people to design a system that would allow us to receive a fax and automatically convert it to a digital file. We wanted each document to be imprinted with an identifying file number when it was received so we could locate the document for verification purposes. Then we created a database designed to receive summary information of the documents so we could print out a summary of the shareholders statements once the process was complete. This database was designed so that we can sort by broker, shareholder or by ID#. We are now able to access all documents sent in by the shareholders by name search or ID# and we can readily display the supporting documents. A state of the art commercial fax machine was purchased to accommodate the expected volume of incoming documents. Four computers were purchased and four rollover dedicated fax lines were added. Computer engineers were able to route the faxes through the computers to digitize and identify the documents. For three weeks, we rented three additional computers to accommodate the people inputting the faxes into the database. Fax machine, computers, rentals, modems, technical help.

$15,000


I have added to my normal office overhead significant monthly expenses with the addition of the four dedicated fax lines. We have also upgraded our server to accommodate the emails and updates that are being sent to the group members. Paid computer assistance is required sometimes daily above what my normal law office expenses would be incurring.

The above costs do not include my office overhead of staff, rent, phones, etc. My hourly fee is $200 to $250 per hour depending on the nature of the work. I have devoted 97% of my work time to CMKX since April 1, 2005. Other work has been refused or has been referred out to other attorneys since I began this employment for Mr. Martin and the other shareholders. There have been many 16 hour days. There have been many weekends and late nights involved due to the research and client contact. An average week would be at least 50 hours per week. Thus total billable hours would be approximately 600 hours.

This breakdown has been prepared at John Martin’s request. I would ask you (my clients) not to post this update on any message board because frankly this should be between you (my clients) and me. I am uncomfortable posting financial matters between myself and my clients in a forum that will most likely be posted on various message boards and be subject to criticism and probably ridicule by some. John has always had a pretty good sense of what you as a group are needing, so here it is. I am told there are some members that are concerned these contributions are sending a windfall this direction. That simply is not the case.


Phase II


A couple of weeks ago I was asked to send out a new agreement so that I can continue the work we started in March. I never thought there would be such a thing as a Phase I or Phase II, but then nothing about CMKX surprises me at this point. I am agreeing to continue my efforts to work for John and all other interested shareholders. I have identified several areas that I will agree to undertake in what we call Phase II.


Audit Monitoring

I have an agreement in principal with Don Stoecklein that we will provide someone to talk with the new auditor so we can be informed of the progress of the audit. This is not in writing, but I will attempt to get some definite written parameters for this monitoring in the next few days.


FOIA

I have filed a FOIA request for certain DTCC records that we are entitled to receive. Our request has been denied. I have appealed that denial. I frankly expect the appeal will be denied. I plan to appeal that denial by filing suit in District Court. The law requires that we exhaust all administrative remedies before suit can be filed so I must continue my work though the administrative process before filing suit.


Naked Shorting

We have proven without question that certain parties have sold CMKX when such stock was not available. Our proof indicates to me there are at least a trillion shares outstanding and possibly as much as two or three trillion shares. We are making inroads with some influential politicians to investigate naked shorting and take action to see that this problem is corrected.

I want to continue using the proof we have developed to convince non believers of the extent of naked shorting, not just in this company but in other companies as well. I plan to continue to contact those companies that we know have significant short positions. As more people request their certs, stock positions held by the brokers and short sellers will become more apparent. There may come a time and a company that facts arise which will lend itself to litigation. As I set out in the Phase II agreement, I will contact each of you individually for your consent to proceed with litigation before I file suit. I will do so in your name only with your consent. In this area, I am continuing my efforts to get the company to obtain for us the DTCC sheets to which they are entitled.


Appeal of Administrative Ruling

We (shareholders) are not a party to this proceeding. We were granted a limited participation in the original proceeding, but we have no standing to appeal or even file briefs or the Petition to Review. There is a process for filing an Amicus Brief but I doubt that we would do that unless some progress is made on the auditing front. Don Stoecklein and Urban know of our concern about the appeal. I have asked to review the draft of the Petition to Review. I have offered to assist in preparation of the appeal. There is not a lot I can do at this point unless my assistance is accepted by the company. I believe there are some merits to an appeal of Judge Murray’s ruling, but there can be quite a lengthy delay brought on by the appeals process. I will stand ready to respond by brief, by letter or by phone conference to any issue that arises from the SEC, Judge Murray or the company.


Settlement Proposal

Most of you may have read the settlement proposal which has been sent (or is in the process of being sent) to the Commission. There is interest in our settlement proposal. I have no idea when we will have some decision on our proposal. I do plan to communicate with the SEC attorneys regarding the shareholders position on the appeal at any point that such communication may be beneficial to you.


New Investigations and Possible Litigations

I recently contacted Chris Bebel (www.chrisbebel.com) We discussed several areas in which I believe he would be of some great assistance. We are discussing a consulting agreement at this point. Chris has written several published articles in relevant areas. He is a former Assistant U.S. Attorney (DOJ) and a former SEC enforcement attorney. He is a highly sought out expert in several areas of securities law. Chris’ work and contacts in the NASD may be very helpful to us.

The information that many of you have provided as well as the documentation we have received from the SEC and the company has given this office a number of areas for further investigation. We have certain key individuals inside this company, that I believe illegally sold mountains of this stock in 2003 and 2004. I would love to contine my efforts with the SEC, the DTCC, and the NASD to determine full disclosure of these trades. I cannot go into further detail in this forum because I know these updates go directly to the bad guys. I plan on a new FOIA request asking for the SEC to reveal the specifics of the NASD investigations that have occurred in the past in CMKX.

We are knowledgeable of many bulk (billions) trades that occurred through certain companies that are clearly not retail customers. I would like to continue to investigate these trades and the companies involved in these trades. We have many bad guys that made fortunes on this stock during the last two years. I would love to hand deliver to law enforcement in a neat package the evidence necessary to indict those that are guilty of wrongdoing. Additional work is necessary in this regard.

There are tremendous tax consequences to many of these transactions. I am convinced there are those who want us to fail so they can escape certain tax liabilities. We should continue our work to see that these individuals do not have sufficient input to hamper our filing process.


Asset Evaluation

There are many of you who believe we are on a wild goose chase and that the company’s claims are worthless moose pasture. I do not know the value of the company’s assets. If the company is willing to share some information with me, and pay my way to Ecuador and Canada, I would love to make the trip. I would look forward to reporting my findings to you upon my return.

The ultimate outcome of everyone’s investment hinges not on naked shorting or SEC actions, but on the true evaluation of the company assets. We have some information about these assets, but we need more. The more I find out about the company, the more I become concerned that neither the company nor the SEC wanted you to know about the evaluation of the assets at the Administrative Hearing.


Information Updates

We have a new Phase II group that will be receiving all future email updates. We apologize to those of you that have complained about receiving two updates. This brings me to a concern that many of you shareholders have expressed. Contrary to popular belief, we do not post these updates to any of the boards. This update is not designed to be bulletin board material. It is intended to be a communication between a group member and this office. I know that the content of these updates goes directly to the bad guys, the SEC and to other third parties. I know because I receive emails from the bashers almost as soon as our updates are sent to you. Surely, you can understand that some information must be kept from the bad guys. I must refrain from revealing certain facts in these updates because many people repost these updates to people and places that are not supportive of your cause. Please refrain from posting these updates to any message boards. Feel free to discuss any aspects of our updates with fellow shareholders and on the boards, but lets play our cards a little closer to the vest.

It has been brought to our attention that some shareholder information has recently been obtained from the SEC as a result of the administrative hearing. I have received calls from several shareholders that are disturbed that some of their personal information will be posted on the internet as a result of the documents obtained from the SEC. A lawyer cannot advise a client in an area that might adversely affect another client, so I will refrain from giving advice in this area. I work extremely hard to avoid releasing personal information of my clients to the internet for any reason. We have shareholder lists and NOBO lists and I have repeatedly declined to post those documents. You may recall that I requested confidentiality from the Judge before even sending our CD proof of naked shorting for this very reason.


Closing

I have never enjoyed working on any case as much as I have enjoyed working for this group. These next few weeks will be critical. The challenges will continue and I believe the real wars are just now beginning. I am convinced our efforts are not in vain.


Onward,


Bill
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Ric, why would I expect you to honor an attorney / client communication?
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
It was already posted on several boards. But then again why should you expect it. This company has scammed so many yet they keep posting that its not a scam. This includes several clues that this is a scam.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
It would be nice to know who these people are??? Looks to me it was UC though from the Master shareholders list.

"We have certain key individuals inside this company, that I believe illegally sold mountains of this stock in 2003 and 2004. I would love to contine my efforts with the SEC, the DTCC, and the NASD to determine full disclosure of these trades. I cannot go into further detail in this forum because I know these updates go directly to the bad guys. I plan on a new FOIA request asking for the SEC to reveal the specifics of the NASD investigations that have occurred in the past in CMKX."
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Ric you can start with John Edwards and move out from there.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Phxgold's DD was posted here a few weeks ago. But of course personal bashing of phx was preferred to acutally reading it and trying to understand how "death spiral financing" was attempted by insiders of CMKX and how Urban fought it.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
But there was no proof to back it up. It was his theory of what happened. It could just as easily not have happened that way and UC did it all. Until Phx has proof then it should stay IMO column and not pushed as fact like he does.

One big hole in his theory was that they maintained the percentage of shares. And the mastershareholders list clearly states that the last 500 billion shares went to a clearing house to be sold to market. So his theory already has big holes in them.
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Way to go, Ric....there is too damn much secrecy in this stock. If the lawyers wanted privacy, then they should have mailed it to the paying members only.
IMO, one of them would have posted it anyway, bunch of ijits....
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
"If you have auditing or accounting experience and wish to participate, please put together a brief resume/business profile and send it to jmartin@cmkxownersgroup.com,"

Just watch. Legal, will claim all kinds of expertise with his previously announced accounting background which he subsequently demonstrated was very little.
 
Posted by Upside on :
 
Send in a resume Wallace!
 
Posted by ed19363 on :
 
Wonderful...now the stockholders have to help with the audit...can this stock get any more screwed up??
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Frizzy doesn't want anyone to know what he has just told you? Public information is public information. The man put it out over the Internet. Maybe he doesn't know that.

I don't much care who Frizzy thinks are the "bad guys" (guess they wear the black hats), but he said next to nothing to address all those sales of CMKX stock by "insiders". The closest he came was the following which would require a class action suit against UC and cohorts:


"We have certain key individuals inside this company, that I believe illegally sold mountains of this stock in 2003 and 2004."

W: That is precisely what many of us have been suggesting for over a year.

Further:

"My hourly fee is $200 to $250 per hour depending on the nature of the work. I have devoted 97% of my work time to CMKX since April 1, 2005. Other work has been refused or has been referred out to other attorneys since I began this employment for Mr. Martin and the other shareholders. There have been many 16 hour days. There have been many weekends and late nights involved due to the research and client contact. An average week would be at least 50 hours per week. Thus total billable hours would be approximately 600 hours."

W: Same old story they all state. He even took work home with him! Heard it before!!!


"I never thought there would be such a thing as a Phase I or Phase II,"

W: Yet legal previously stated Phase I was made perfectly clear right from the beginning. Guess legal knew that before Frizzy did, huh!

"We have proven without question that certain parties have sold CMKX when such stock was not available."

W: Guess who!

"He is a former Assistant U.S. Attorney (DOJ) and a former SEC enforcement attorney. He is a highly sought out expert in several areas of securities law. Chris’ work and contacts in the NASD may be very helpful to us.

W: Another lawyer, former SEC atty and "water walker" for the OG, faithful, cult members to worship! Phase III?

"We have many bad guys that made fortunes on this stock during the last two years. I would love to hand deliver to law enforcement in a neat package the evidence necessary to indict those that are guilty of wrongdoing. Additional work is necessary in this regard."

W: Again, guess who! Brilliant deduction! Phase IV. Tell him to save the trouble and money. The logical people are UC and cohorts...GO THERE! CLASS ACTION SUIT! Frizzy gets the big money though.

"If the company is willing to share some information with me, and pay my way to Ecuador and Canada, I would love to make the trip."

W: Hell, the company wouldn't share information with their auditor(s).

W: Like I said before, such trips will disclose absolutely nothing definitive about assets in the ground that may or may not exist. Records (if they exist at all) are elsewhere. If the company pays for the trip, it's more wasted shareholder $$$$s. I am sure he would like to make the trip(s)....tell him to bring his whole family for a nice vacation. Bet he wouldn't be suggesting such trips in the dead of winter!

"A lawyer cannot advise a client in an area that might adversely affect another client, so I will refrain from giving advice in this area."

W: In short, tough titty! I do think you should get a better explanation of what the hell he means by the above. You are all his clients. How could helping one adversely affect another client of the same group? How could removing SS#s from any document adversely affect any of the OG, faithful, cult members?

W: If legal thinks that response answers questions as to all those CMKX stock sales, he is sadly mistaken. Except for the tiny bit about illegal activity, he said nothing. Send him another $25 legal. Maybe he will let you in on inside information.

W: I am repeating the following statement with comments:

"We have certain key individuals inside this company, that I believe illegally sold mountains of this stock in 2003 and 2004."

W: "Key individuals inside this company". A key individual within or "inside" a company is an officer, director, family member or major stockholder of 5-10% of stock. Inside means just that....INSIDE!

Not outside, not somewhere else, not inside another company, but "INSIDE THIS COMPANY". Can we assume he is referring to CMKX when he says "this company"?

[ July 22, 2005, 19:56: Message edited by: Wallace#1 ]
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Send in a resume Wallace!

Wouldn't lower myself by doing that, Up.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Holy crap! Who the hell is writing the script for this crazy play?
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Well, I look at it to that legal made me do it. lol. Come in the room and say I have a secret and you don't know.


I have a question. Why if this stock is worth so much because they have a mountain of diamonds did everyone get rid of there shares? If this stock was going to make everyone rich then why does UC only have 1.2 billion shares. No matter why he surrendered his shares he did do it.

So, since he must be a shareholder of record and he did surrender his shares to market or to Daffy Duck, that means he must not believe the shares will be worth anything. Of course most people realize 703 billion shares of any stock is worthless, most cult members don't. But the only reason then is because UC knew that the stock would be worthless so he got rid of them as fast as he could. He knew that he had gave 500 billion shares to be sold and he knew what that would do to the stock price. But hey he made a mint while pumping the sells of shares. Got CMKX.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
500 billion shares sold on market by the clearing service. This proves UC and company never had 51% and made decisions without the shareholders consent.
 
Posted by finky on :
 
"If you have auditing or accounting experience and wish to participate, please put together a brief resume/business profile and send it to jmartin@cmkxownersgroup.com,"
Gee I wonder if whoever they get to help will get compensated for there work or at least have there $25 fee waived.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Letter from Nevada mines over default.


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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
I keep being tormented by the context of the following statement by Frizzell:

"It has been brought to our attention that some shareholder information has recently been obtained from the SEC as a result of the administrative hearing. I have received calls from several shareholders that are disturbed that some of their personal information will be posted on the internet as a result of the documents obtained from the SEC. A lawyer cannot advise a client in an area that might adversely affect another client, so I will refrain from giving advice in this area."

I ask all of you OG members to think about it seriously, make inquiries of Frizzell and require him to answer those inquiries in writing to all OG members as opposed to just a few who may pass it on (and maybe pass it on incorrectly).

All you OG members signed an initial agreement for that first $25. Each and every one of you had exactly the same interests as per that 1st agreement. Did Martin sign that same agreement and were his rights the same as yours pursuant to that agreement? If not, why?

I expect those that signed up for the 2nd $25 also signed another agreement. Again, for those that signed the 2nd agreement their interests would be the same in addition to those in the 1st agreement. If the 2nd agreement did not protect and include the rights of signers of the 1st agreement, someone should be asking WHY! Again, did Martin sign the 2nd agreement?

My particular concern for the OG members is the following:

"A lawyer cannot advise a client in an area that might adversely affect another client...".

If all of you have the same attorney, with the same agreement and for the same purpose(s), how could Frizzell be in a situation where it might adversely affect another client? That suggests to me there is (or was) another client Frizzell is/was representing with interests different from those of the OG membership. As far as I know lawyers are not permitted to do such a thing. As far as I know it is definitely not permitted in law.

If there is/was any such other client with different interests, it would seem to me that Frizzell should have either refused representing the OG members or should have refused representing that other client. I can see no way there could be any adverse affect if the OG members are his only clients relating to CMKX issues.

For your own protection and security, I strongly recommend someone get the answers from him and require a public statement as to any clients that would fit into the above "adverse" category.

As far as I am concerned, something just does not sound right with that statement if all of you have the same contractual interests....and that better include Martin.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
Wallace you are really a very funny guy when you get in these long windbag spiels.

OK, I'll help you out, since you were apparently asleep most of the day.

Pedro posted information that he should not have on the personals of shareholders. Actually, the SEC was at fault if the lists were actually from them.

But, Pedro is also an OG member. Frizzell cannot advise members on pursuing any action against the SEC or Pedro becauae it would be a conflict of interest.

Please, save some board space in the future and just ask. I will be happy to hold your hand through these complex issues.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
Letter from Nevada mines over default.


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Ric, go back to the hearing transcripts. Urban and Dhonau agreed to allow Nevada to keep CMKX share of the gold until the debt was cleared.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
Way to go, Ric....there is too damn much secrecy in this stock. If the lawyers wanted privacy, then they should have mailed it to the paying members only.
IMO, one of them would have posted it anyway, bunch of ijits....

It was emailed only to members of the OG.
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
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Exhibit 16 ~~ Stock Certificate issued 01/22/2003

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Say it aint so Urban!

You paid 50,000 shares for some leather

and in another transaction 50,000 to tackle company

is that like bait & tackle like for fishing?

Come on!!!!!
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
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SEC Exhibits 26 and 27
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Exhibit 26 - Shareholder certificates issued 2002 and 2003

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2002

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Exhibit 27 ~~ Auditor Letter to Business Works

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Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
All of a sudden you know what a "conflict of interest" is, legal? Not that long back, you didn't know until I had to explain it to you about 3 or more times.

Interesting the way you like to answer for all the others who might be OG members. You have taken on the "mouthpiece" function? If I were them, in view of your proclivity toward spinning and distorting, I would check it out for myself.

Looks like you looked up a word I had previously used too. Saw you recently used it. "redacted"
You sure do like to use others' talents as your own, huh?
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
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3.16 billion shares issued on 12/5/2002???

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3.3 billion shares issued on 1/24/2003????

I guess o/s was 7.2 billion as of 2/14/2003 but dilution started quickly with this stock.

These posts diffently throws out that the "seller" held nothing close to what Phx. claimed.
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
Wallace i thought you were brighter than this, i've been waiting for your tips a long time now,,, you made me miss the windfall only you could give me. when will you give me the tips oh helpful one. If i was your neighbor you would help me.

COBRACOBRA
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
cobra,

I will give you a "tip". You wrote: "If i was your neighbor you would help me."

My tip is that the proper grammar is "If I were", not "was". Got it? See if you can remember that for about 5 minutes.
 
Posted by Wallace#1 on :
 
Good night all.
 
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SEC Exhibits 55 and 57
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Exhibit 58 ~~ General Ledger

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The following was NOT part of the Exhibit

Reconstructed Balance Sheet from above information.
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Posted by legaleagle on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
All of a sudden you know what a "conflict of interest" is, legal? Not that long back, you didn't know until I had to explain it to you about 3 or more times.

Interesting the way you like to answer for all the others who might be OG members. You have taken on the "mouthpiece" function? If I were them, in view of your proclivity toward spinning and distorting, I would check it out for myself.

Looks like you looked up a word I had previously used too. Saw you recently used it. "redacted"
You sure do like to use others' talents as your own, huh?

First of all Wallace your prior explanation of "confict of interest" was in the wrong context. But I forgave you and let you off the hook.

Where was I acting as a mouthpiece for the other shareholders? Are you going there about my reduction of the Frizzell statement you went on and on about, to simple terms you could understand. You wanted the answer because you couldn't understand him, so I made it simple.

Actually I have never seen you use the word redact, but recalled it from a poster at PB 32 this morning. If I had known that you had an exclusive right to the word, I certainly never would have used it, Mr. Webster.

And I also notice that as DD material is being poured out by Pedro, that you are still sitting here bashing me, Frizzell, anyone convenient to your purposes, rather that doing any real research into the information being provided.

You really should look at these documents, there is a tremendous amount of "real" bashing information that you can spin.
 
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Posted by Ric on :
 
Wow, preferred stocks were issued 1 share. Common shares are for pump and dump. Look near bottom. 2004 books it shows preferred shares.

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Posted by cobracobra on :
 
oh my wallace,,, ya got me there. you've corrected my sentence structure. why would you insult me with the 5 minute memory thing, i will remember it longer then that because i can g............ uh, uhmm, where was i again,,,, oh yes i remember,,,,,,how will i ever repay you. I am glad you were there, i could have looked foolish. almost as foolish as an old man taking the time to correct a mess. brd. post. If you want to insult someone try another fool. this one doesnt play nice with others,,,,,, but dont worry wally i wont do anything that will get me banned. i am sure you are waiting for it so you can report any little action to the mod. sorry, try again. good night angel-lips,
sweet dreams

COBRACOBRA
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Wallace is angel-lips, lol

"good night angel-lips,
sweet dreams

COBRACOBRA"

I thought legal was the only one to get me rolling on the floor.
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
WOW Wallace, look at all those General Ledgers. Here's your chance to do a proper interpretation of the entries for your "merry men", so that they know you really are educated in accounting principles as you have been bragging.
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
legal i know he has been around for a LONG time but i didn't know he had been around since the days of robin hood. uh oh i should capitalize that before he corrects it,,,LOL And before you mention it Wally, i do know that robin hood was fiction, much like your trading skillz.
cobra
 
Posted by legaleagle on :
 
cobra, not saying he's old, but he's getting out his comptometer now to work up some numbers for us from the Ledgers. Then he will post his "redaction" for our enlightenment.
 
Posted by stockster5 on :
 
Wow, it just became clear to me about Legaleagle....I now know who
he is..!!! He's ... URBAN CASAVANT. It's as plain as that Fort a la Corne Kimberlite 122
diamond encrusted ore sample in your pocket. Why else would anyone stay here so long
antagonizing people like he does. Legal ..er ... Urban is using this board as research
for his next project. It's like the boss nobody has ever seen, coming into work as
a client to spy on his workers....It's perfect I tell you.
Thank ya, thank ya very much ..........

S5
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
Newly update exhibit list:

Consolidated Pedro postings:

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Exhibit 14 – 12/31/2004 Master shareholder list

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71st Street Holdings, Florida

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AG Enterprises, Inc., Nevada
Alberta Resources Consortium, Nevada
Albert Finch & Assoc., Nevada

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The Casavant Family

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Computer Clearing Services, California

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Duval, Inc., Bahamas

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Eton Properties Corp., Nevada

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Exhibit 15 ~~ 360 Shareholders and Certificates

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Exhibit 16 ~~ Stock Certificate issued 01/22/2003

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Exhibit 20 ~~ Letter from SEC to USCA Attorney

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Exhibit 21 ~~ Letter from USCA Attorney to SEC

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Exhibit 22 ~~ Letter from Nevada Minerals to CMKX

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Exhibit 23 ~~ Letter fom Nevada Minera to Nevada Minerals

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Exhibit 26 - Shareholder certificates issued 2002 and 2003

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2002

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2003

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Exhibit 27 ~~ Auditor Letter to Business Works

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Exhibit 55 ~~ E-mail from DeMint

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Exhibit 57 ~~ Dvorak Letter

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Exhibit 58 ~~ General Ledger

2002 General Ledger

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2003 General Ledger

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2004 General Ledger

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The following was NOT part of the Exhibit

Reconstructed Balance Sheet from above information.
Subject to change as new information is provided.


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[ July 23, 2005, 01:33: Message edited by: Ric ]
 
Posted by cobracobra on :
 
geez ric if you are going to swipe from pb 32 then at least say where you got it..........
 
Posted by Ric on :
 
I did in all the other post cobra. geeze

I did help with the combined list for them.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
well well well, i'd say old pedro has been a busy guy. still looking for facts there cobra??? might be you can find a few in all those documents. 1 thing that sits funny if you notice the date when computer clearing got 500 billion shares 4/30/2004 look at the letter from dvorak, just under 200 billion & thats feb 2004 that equals 700 billion. i personally called the state of nevada when the o/s was raised from 500 billion to 800 billion & that was just before the divys own by date in august. the o/s had gone to 800 billion the day before.....a/s is 500 billion in april yet there are 700 billion issued by the company. that doesn't include the bahama stuff, the eton properties stuff.....by the way cobra those are facts & i only had to read to get them, black & white, not trying to glue this clown to that crook stuff.... i'd say UC was printing shares so fast he forgot to increase the a/s before the o/s passed it by. i think the term for that is naked shorting.
 
Posted by bill1352 on :
 
lets see, i said 360 of UC's buddies from his prison days & ppl around where he lived. i was quickly pointed to the great DD d