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bill, of course there was NO KNOWN KIMBERLITE. This was from a 2003 14C that announced and delineated the acquisition of those claims by CMKX. No Goldak surveys yet at that time. You are obviously trying to do some DD now to support your position, but you gotta look at times and relativity.
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Member Rated: posted July 21, 2005 00:27 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lets use the same logic as 100 to 1 did here.
I am related to Adam and Eve I owned Microsoft stock at one time My computer has Microsoft Windows and Word on it I went to college
Bill Gates is related to Adam and Eve Bill Gates owns Microsoft Bill Gate's computer has Microsoft Windows and word on it Bill Gates went to college
I must be related to Bill Gates and I should get part of his inheritance if he dies.
Makes sense to me. ==================================
ya had me till ya added the college part, now if ya both went to the same college & both had fun with the same girl ya might be on to something.
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quote:Originally posted by bill1352: now on to the gemm divy...if you'll notice at the bottom where it gives the split there are dates each as a refer to section except the first 1...each tells you to refer to the last 1. at no time does it give the second divy that was pr'ed by cmkx as to being given out
1st statement.....
+Approximately .00012267 of a restricted share of Juina Mining Corp (OTC: GEMM) for each share held. Will not be quoted Ex.
2nd statement....Refer to the D/L of 9/28/04, P/D revised by Co. +Approx .00012267 of a restricted share of Juina Mining Corp (OTC: GEMM) for each share held. Will not be quoted Ex.
3rd statement.....Refer to the D/L of 11/16, 2nd revision of P/D by Co. +Approx .00012267 of a restricted share of Juina Mining Corp (OTC: GEMM) for each share held.
these are the facts, i'm not guessing, i'm not trying to put a puzzle together, there are no hidden messages, nobody is related or in bed with anyone (maybe Will & Upside). no need to try & add 2 + 2 & get $1 million.
Bill that was a lot of work for you and I appreciate it, but since it doesn't state what your point is, I will have to guess that you are trying to say there never was two divies planned. So with that in mind I will have to point out that the PR stated there will be a divy and an ADDITIONAL divy:
8/2/2004 : LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 2, 2004--CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX - News) announced today that it has elected to distribute the 95,502,027 shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets: GEMM - News) which were recently purchased by the company as a dividend to its shareholders.
The company has chosen Oct. 1, 2004, as the record and distribution date for this latest dividend to its shareholders.
In addition, GEMM has issued a 60-day option to CMKX to purchase shares equivalent to an additional 24% of the outstanding shares in GEMM for an additional $500,000 USD. When exercised, the company has elected to distribute this ADDITIONAL 127,336,036 as a dividend on the same record and distribution date.
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legal the gist of my original statement on pb32 was that debeers had already been testing their claims by feb 2003. in fact shore gold had been testing. debeers, with all of its experiance, knowledge & equipment would have gone over everything around there. yes they might miss something, but not much & not something huge. i do not know the timeframe between debeers filing their claims & shore gold, they might have missed that one but if there was any serious kimberlite around debeers knew it. like them or not they are good at what they do. thus if that 611 thousand acres had no known kimberlite chances are good it was because there was no kimberlite worth looking at seriously.
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correct legal...cmkx exercized that option & then stated a second divy would be given out. or am i mistaken on that??? it was later then 60 days when it happened. my point is they never gave the second pr'ed divy out. notice the 2nd & 3rd posts. they canceled the first pay day about noon on that day & moved it to the day the second divy was to be paid. this caused some to get shares in their accounts on the first pay day & other on the second. it caused it to appear that the mm's were scrambling to cover naked shorts when in fact it was cmkx covering something up as in no second GEMM divy.
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quote:Originally posted by bill1352: legal the gist of my original statement on pb32 was that debeers had already been testing their claims by feb 2003. in fact shore gold had been testing. debeers, with all of its experiance, knowledge & equipment would have gone over everything around there. yes they might miss something, but not much & not something huge. i do not know the timeframe between debeers filing their claims & shore gold, they might have missed that one but if there was any serious kimberlite around debeers knew it. like them or not they are good at what they do. thus if that 611 thousand acres had no known kimberlite chances are good it was because there was no kimberlite worth looking at seriously.
bill, if, and that's a very questionable if, DeBeers ever had those sites they didn't do more than punch in a drill and apparently come up dry. The Goldak Survey announced "hundreds" of anomalies and further stated that it was the "first" such survey of the area ever conducted. It's apparent that DeBeers didn't want to spend the money to get the job done right, and Urban did. So their loss was our gain.
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 24, 2004--CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX - News) announced today it has just received preliminary results from the airborne magnetic survey recently completed by Goldak Airborne Surveys of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. The survey was conducted during April, May and June 2004 using Goldak's Navaho aircraft equipped with a trimaxial magnetic gradiometer.
By employing this modern, state of the art geophysical equipment and flying a low-level, closely spaced survey, HUNDREDS of magnetic anomalies were able to be identified. Some of these anomalies are obvious drill targets, while others will need further study by the Company's consultants.
Urban Casavant, president of the CMKM Diamonds, Inc., stated, "The company is very pleased with the results of the survey. For the FIRST time in the history of diamond exploration in the Fort a' la Corne area, a complete and comprehensive magnetic picture of the whole area is available to the company."
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bunch of posts about personal attacks...i agree they are wrong. that said reading some of the cults ideas can hurt a normal, non-kool-aide drinking brain. its like dealling with a teenage son. there are time when talking to him you just want to grab him by the neck & shake his head till whatever is in there rattleing stops. you begin to wonder how you ever had such an idiot for a child. ya don't hate him, ya still believe he has value but for that moment you seriously belive there has been some brain damge done somehow. ya can't always stop yourself from screaming what an idiot he is.
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again correct legal BUT the 8K a few months ago stated it was the review of that survey. yes it was missing the map page but in the text that hundreds became 16 & some of those might not be kimberlite. and your assuming debeers did not survey by air. debeers owns that type of equipment, they don't rent it. cmkx is not on debeers board. debeers went back to private before that thus they do not need to tell anyone how they found their claims thus cmkx really has no idea for sure that it was not done. they just know that nobody hired anyone to survey by air...no permit needed for that.
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also notice the last sentence...........For the FIRST time in the history of diamond exploration in the Fort a' la Corne area, a complete and comprehensive magnetic picture of the whole area is available to the company." ...it ends to the company. ya really think debeers or shore gold for that matter would tell cmkx there was such a map? you yap about the guy at stockwatch but this is just the kind of thing he points out. pr's worded to sound like something special but in reality meaningless & yes he is a scam artist & as stated by him, this is his way of making up for the damage he did scaming ppl. who better to find a con then a conman?
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Bill it is very simply spelled out that there were two dividends, different amounts of shares, different pay dates. They didn't both get paid because there weren't enough to go around to all of the naked short, pure and simple. That's why the brokers finally admitted that the shares in our accounts were only "markers", not real shares. Roger's trap worked.
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 2, 2004--CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX - News) announced today that it has elected to distribute the 95,502,027 shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets: GEMM - News) which were recently purchased by the company as a dividend to its shareholders.
The company has chosen Oct. 1, 2004, as the record and distribution date for this latest dividend to its shareholders.
In addition, GEMM has issued a 60-day option to CMKX to purchase shares equivalent to an additional 24% of the outstanding shares in GEMM for an additional $500,000 USD. When exercised, the company has elected to distribute this additional 127,336,036 as a dividend on the same record and distribution date.
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 2, 2004--CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX - News) announced today that it has elected to distribute the 95,502,027 shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets: GEMM - News) which were recently purchased by the company as a dividend to its shareholders.
The company has chosen Oct. 1, 2004, as the record and distribution date for this latest dividend to its shareholders.
In addition, GEMM has issued a 60-day option to CMKX to purchase shares equivalent to an additional 24% of the outstanding shares in GEMM for an additional $500,000 USD. When exercised, the company has elected to distribute this additional 127,336,036 as a dividend on the same record and distribution date.
LAS VEGAS, Oct 16, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets:CMKX), announced today that it has exercised its option to purchase an additional 127,336,036 shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets:GEMM) for $500,000 USD. The Company has elected to purchase these shares to issue as a dividend to all CMKX shareholders as of the October 29,2004 record date .The distribution date for this latest dividend is set for November 30, 2004.
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I still believe if the property was really worth anything then a tiny pinksheet company ran by an ex-prison guard wouldn't had a chance to get it. Could there be diamonds there, I guess so. Could there be oil under my 20 acres? Do I have the money to find out? Needle in the hay stacks will take on person a lifetime to find. A pinksheet company with one drill that spent the diluted shares money on a drag car will also. But since they can't sell shares anymore then where is the money going to come from?
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legal...it was never given out. only 1 divy was issued. period. the date was changed on the first divy pay day in the middle of the day to the second divy pay date. at no time did ameritrade ever recieve word there was a second divy. i cant speak for other brokers because i only talk to my broker but i was pointed to the dates on the bottom about 1 hr after the first pay date was canceled and again a few days later. 2 ppl told me the same thing & showed me the same dates on the bottom
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well i'm off...need sleep bad...be well folks.
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quote:Originally posted by bill1352: again correct legal BUT the 8K a few months ago stated it was the review of that survey. yes it was missing the map page but in the text that hundreds became 16 & some of those might not be kimberlite. and your assuming debeers did not survey by air. debeers owns that type of equipment, they don't rent it. cmkx is not on debeers board. debeers went back to private before that thus they do not need to tell anyone how they found their claims thus cmkx really has no idea for sure that it was not done. they just know that nobody hired anyone to survey by air...no permit needed for that.
Bill the report was only for one set of claims, 101047025 Saskatchewan Ltd,not all of our claims, and it was 15 holes that were drilled, not a reduction of the number of anomalies occuring on all of our claims covered by the Goldak. And that report didn't include all of the holes being drilled by our JV's on the many claims held jointly with them.
"The drilling report was commissioned for CMKX by 101047025 Saskatchewan Ltd. Mr. Jarvis was asked to report on and make recommendations for the kimberlite exploration program. The scope of work completed included:"
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quote:Originally posted by bill1352: legal...it was never given out. only 1 divy was issued. period. the date was changed on the first divy pay day in the middle of the day to the second divy pay date. at no time did ameritrade ever recieve word there was a second divy. i cant speak for other brokers because i only talk to my broker but i was pointed to the dates on the bottom about 1 hr after the first pay date was canceled and again a few days later. 2 ppl told me the same thing & showed me the same dates on the bottom
Bill, a quick call to Helen, the TA should convince you that the second divy was not distributed. She will confirm that there was a first and second divy. The first was distributed, and the second wasn't. We can only speculate on why it wasn't. But from the first divy, the brokers had to issue "markers" meaning there weren't enough to go around to all of the shareholders. The DTCC or SEC probably had to stop the second distribution so there wouldn't be another massive failure to deliver the dividends.
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What holes the JV's drilled???? How many??? Where is there proof?? And if they did, like the 15 CMKX did that had nothing, what makes you think they found anything?
I keep hearing you say this but its only a theory. Theories seem to be all that ever come out about this company.
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I'm not sure. I thought the Judge gave her initial finding on July 9, add 21 days to that, and it's July 30. Might be next Saturday.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tommorrow means nothing its 21 days from the initial decision that places the appeal deadline on the 2nd of august. They can address any manifest errors in the case within a 10 day window that places anything to do with manifest errors in law by Friday. The 21st was a statement by the judge for the deadline of her 120 days set forth by the oip. but that too was wrong. 120 days from the 16th of march was july 13th. so therefore the 21st is just the 21st IMO ~Phx
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INITIAL DECISION July 12, 2005 Add 21 days to that. Sounds as if Tuesday, August 2, is accurate to me.
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i guess that fact that the goldtac survey being mentioned by name as being part of the 8k report is meaningless. again we see the selective facts mixed with chit to make the cult feel better become the only possible reality. again the 1 piece of paper needed to remove all guessing is missing & it was the company that lost it. yes the survey mentioned 1 set of claims but it aslo mentioned the goldtac survey & it didn't say PART OF THE GOLDTAC SURVEY. the guy that wrote that report seemed to leave nothing to guess at. but of course UC is so smart, he only gave the guy part of the survey so that the big news didn't leak out. big set of balls there to, put out 1/2 info in an 8k while the sec was breathing down his neck. sounds like what stockpatrol is accusing UC of, misleading, 1/2 true prs & public statements.
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Bill when a survey like that is done over millions of acres, it doesn't appear on one piece of paper. Jarvis was given the parts of the survey that applied to what he was hired to assess. That was the 101047025 Saskatchewan Ltd claims and he was working for 10104725 Saskatchewan Ltd. It's clearly spelled out in the report heading. Why would he report on every claim held by CMKX and every claim held by our JV's, when he was only hired to report on 101047025 Saskatchewan Ltd? When you are dealing with millions of acres, it seems rather logical to me that you would do it in small segments. But if you are grasping for anything you can use to back up your bashing, I guess "We only got a partial report, so Urban is lying and scamming.", is adequate for your purposes. And BTW where did you get your information that Urban withheld the Table 1? If you have proof shouldn't you get that to the SEC since that would be purposely issuing a false, misleading and incomplete 8K. I'm sure Stoecklein is dumb enough to get caught in that one.
"Summary of Activities and Work Programs Completed in the Fort a al Corne Area by 101047025 Saskatchewan Ltd on behalf CMKM Diamonds Inc.
Prepared by William Jarvis, Diamond Elporation Consultant April 2005 for 10104725 Saskatchewan Ltd."
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legal, go back & read the pr about the survey...i dont remember where it was but the goldtac survey was not over every claim held by cmkx & group. it was only over around 70,000 acres. the pr also stated when the survey was done that the survey was to be reviewed by pro's not part of the survey was to be reviewed. if i remember correctly it was a big deal for the cult, hundreds of anomolies & only part of the claims were covered by goldtac.
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Actually bill, the survey covered an area of approximately 53,841 km. Since it was "area" that would be sq km. To obtain sq miles, you multiply the km by .6214 In this case that would be a survey area of 33,456.80 sq miles. To derive acres from miles, multiply the square miles by 640, the number of acres in a square mile. That number is 21,412,352 sq acres, involved in the survey. A long way from your 70,000 acres.
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Come on Bill, all those folks you were talking to at PB 32 about your "facts" are watching here for your proof.
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like i said, legal has the facts, he has said just about everything. when he posts to much fact you all have to resort to th "kool aid" and "cult" cracks. where are the facts to refute legal's? maybe you can't! And this is the part where you have to bash me because i am agreeing with him and stating that he has you with FACTS. go ahead, i'll wait........
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that was n't a bugle call, it was taps for them....LOL
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If your referring to the 2004 Goldak survey that's in CMKX's filing, that survey covered just under 2.3 million acres.
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: If your referring to the 2004 Goldak survey that's in CMKX's filing, that survey covered just under 2.3 million acres.
Agreed Up, that's what it covered for our claims, but there were more companies involved in contracting the entire survey, than just CMKX. Even DeBeers was involved.
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