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No a filing won't tell us that legal. It is just what CMKX paid for it. Nothing more and thats all the filing will include is paid value. It will take a property assessment to determine true value of it. But looking at the history of UC throwing shares away at more then double what he could have paid cash for it. I bet it is way over valued.

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Here is Pedro's explanation on where he obtained the SEC exhibits from.

Pedro is a funny guy!

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« Thread Started on Today at 10:24am »

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This rumor spreading around about how I obtained the SEC Exhibits was started by a very imaginative mind.

I find that Poster very amusing!......
Thank you for the laugh Mr. Amusing Man.


Since everyone is set that these records were obtained from the "Mob," here is my secret sources for anyone else that desires to "get information."


First thing you need to do is contact the Informant.

BE VERY CAREFUL when contacting the Informant.
You really don't want to get the Informant angry!
Bad things will happen if the Informant gets angry.


Here is the Information:

Contact the Informant at the:
Public Reference Branch (202) 551-8090.

The Informant will tell you what steps to follow.
MAKE SURE YOU FOLLOW THE INFORMANTS DIRECTIONS!


After following the Informants directions, you will get a telephone call from a person known as the MOLE.

The Mole will ask for money.
(Don't all Moles ask for money!)

When the Mole called, the Mole asked that I pay money in advance before any records will be produced.

The Mole asked that I pay:
233.52 for Copies
25.88 for Sales Tax
80.00 for Shipping

I asked for special delivery overnight - That's why the delivery charge was $80 dollars.

So, I secretly gave the MOLE numbers that was on my VISA card.

The next day a BIG BROWN VAN came to my house.
Then a Man stepped out of the BIG BROWN VAN.
I never saw that man before, but the Big Brown Van I have seen occasionally while I was driving my car.

The MAN in the BROWN VAN gave me a BIG BROWN BOX.

Then the MAN drove away in the BROWN VAN.
Does anyone know what UPS stands for?

I opened up the brown box like I was opening up a Christmas Present when I was 8 years old.

Two (2) days later my VISA Card said:
Order Total - $339.40


ANYONE that wants to obtain copies of SEC Documents, just start by calling that number.

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Wallace, the SEC would not want the valuation known at this time if it was very high, because the run would break the backs of the brokerages, MMs and Hedgies, and do severe damage to the economy.


that has to be in the top 5 laughable statements ever made on here.naked shorted companies come out with good newws every day. the float on these companies in in the millions thus it is easier to run. companies with floats in the billions can't run, no news is big enough & we now know the float is 690 billion...well i take that back, since no insiders actually report buying & selling as the law states the float is 703 billion.

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actually i might order some of that kona coffee. real fresh kona beans make great coffee. i was stationed on a submarine based in pearl harbor. i might be nice to enjoy a cup of fresh bean coffee.

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maybe my memory is failing me but the only zinc claims i remember are CIM claims. both companies may be part of the same family but shares from 1 company can not be used to pay for things of the second company. even more so when shares are public & the zinc companiy is private. i think the term is imbezzeling funds. ya think maybe thats why CIM shares were given to cmkx shareholders? to get around that problem, making them shareholders so to speak? CIM being private means nobody has to say anything on if it pans out or not. the perfect UC scam, use shareholder money & never have to answer for it.

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bill, according to legal CMKX has been giving away all there assets in this so called master plan. This wholesale giveaway will make them all rich or is that UC. Well, I think UC will surprise everyone when he thinks that he got away scott free. But things always seem to caught up to you in the end. And I wouldn't want to be UC's end when he does get caught. lol

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i guess giving away shares is part of those assets...lol. notice the zinc mining stuff on the ledger sheets at the bottom. a lot more then the $1 million pr'ed.

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Re: All SEC Exhibits
« Reply #9 on Today at 3:09pm »

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Today at 3:00pm, rics1997 wrote:I know people are getting mad over personal information but the Name is needed. I noticed that the whole name and address and any other personal info was deleted. I agree that all the other info can be delete in good taste but names need to be there because it brings to light very important information. I hate you felt exhibit 14 links shouldn't be listed because they were extremely important.

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I am working on this exhibit and will post information that does not include revealing innocent shareholders personal information.

The information will show how over 500 billion shares were issued from February 2004 through July 2004.

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Remember when Cobra and legal went on about the board ignoring Phxgold's post. They keep thinking they were real and not some off the wall theory.

Here is one big example why the names need to be listed. There was a theory that the 17 or 18 "sellers" received the 84% of the stock in Feb. 2003 and therefore held majority in the company. From review of previous posted master shareholders list, this is far from the truth. Actually no truth what so ever to it. They only had an option to buy that much anyway. It never said they did and these exhibits proved that. I think a lot of theories have been laid to rest with this.

It is nice to finally get to see the truth and not have to just theorize about it.

[ July 24, 2005, 15:39: Message edited by: Ric ]

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Oh, and I forgot the one were it was the "sellers" that were using there so called shares to short the company and take it over. But I have noticed one thing. When a theory is proven wrong there is no apology or retraction. They just ignore it like it never happened or put a spin on it. I remember one time someone asking if I would admit if I was wrong but when the shoes on the other foot. Well, two theories down the toilet. Phyxgold is start to look 0 for every how many theories.

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Actually i spoke against that theory.... everyone took it as Gold, but i said it was just a theory as were the others by countless people. I thought it was as rediculous as a sterling double short double cover triple lutz.I you say i said something get it right. However it does not change the fact that I believe in the company. It is just as easy to discount all of your theories and even esasier to discout Wallsac i, sorry for the typo i meant wallace. And as far as wallace i am discounting HIM not his theories.

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By: oldepro
24 Jul 2005, 03:54 PM EDT
Msg. 1052310 of 1052423
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THE KING LIVES!!!!!!!!!

This post is dedicated to Jimmy H. in Fla. His call last night caused me to reflect on the current status of the Kingdom.

Many things have happened in the kingdom, since our last report. We have lost many loyal subjects in the war. Our village seems to be decimated and the war hopelessly lost. It seems the enemy was much more powerful,unscrupulous and more cunning, than an villager ever imagined. The King knew, but choose not to inform his subjects. Why? To avoid surrender. If villagers knew what they were up against, many would have run away.

Many villagers traveled to a premature victory party in the land of Lost Wages. Lured by the promise of BIG news from the King. Victory? Peace in the Kingdom? Many thought so, and traveled to the King's capitol. At the party, the King and his Court presented chariot races, presents and a feast beyond compare. Many villagers met for the first time and formed an unbreakeable bond. As the King was about to announce great news, the Great Barrister intervined, and stopped him. Why? Seems the God's of the Street wanted the King to keep quiet. When the Gods speak, everyone listens. It seems up until this time, the God's had little concern about the King and his subjects. But now, the God's wanted to know every detail about the King and his Court. Apparently, if the King was allowed to reveal the TRUE riches of his kingdom, it would upset the balance of power. Now, the God's wanted no part in this, as their job is to protect the balance, so that the Great Emperor can maintain his empire. This threw the war into even more choas. The Emperor did not want to take sides, but felt he must to insure the survival of his empire. So he told the God's, fix this any way you can and keep it QUIET. I'm sure this angered the King, but the King is powerless compared to the Emperor. So the King played along. But the King made a VERY smart move. He contacted an Old Warhorse. Once one of the most powerful men in the Empire, age had slowed him, but the fire still burned. The King explained his predicament and the Warhorse decided to help. Now, the Warhorse still had many contacts with powerful people in the Empire. The villagers rejoyced! Surely, now the war was won. But alas, the war was just beginning.
The God's of the Street, for a reason known only to them, decided the best thing for all, was for the King and his Kingdom to be obliterated. The spoils to be distributed among the villager's enemies. The Great Barrister decided to flee. The reason is still unknown. Was his job over, or did he run scared? Few know and they aren't saying. The Warhorse hired a new barrister. St. Melvin was replaced, by the tight lipped Andy, of the Land of No Ansas. Since Andy was from Noansas, many villagers began meeting in the Land of Talking Pals. In the Land of Talking Pals, there are many places to meet. At first it was a great place, where villagers could discuss the War. The villagers hired their own barrister. A fine man, from the land of the State of the Lone Star. An honest, rootin tootin, free shootin son of a gun. As a hired gun, he may be the key to winning the War. A secret weapon, so to speak. It wasn't long before the Land was infiltrated. In one particular part of the land, a group gathered, which included the likes of Sire Willy of Windbag, Ooggie of Ogre and Acca of Oncracka. The Land of Talking Pals was split into warring factions. Was this petty squabbling, or intentional sabotage? No one knows to this day.

At this point in the story, the Kingdom looks in danger of getting it's charter revoked. It's King disposed, or worse emprisoned. The Kingdom is in complete turmoil. Secret documents were recently released, which make the King look to be a crooked leader. Villagers are turning on one another. Are we losing from within? Possibly. But all is not lost. Why? Because the King has yet to speak. Why? Because the King has been working, with the Old Warhose, behind the scenes. Top Secret stuff. Will it be too little too late? No one knows.

I for one, hold my allegance to the King and wait for him to speak. My choice is to coward in the corner and hope to escape the enemy, or fight to the death. Death to tyrants, not to villagers. In the words of Andy of Noansas:

"WE WILL WIN" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All references to the Land of Short Sells were omitted from this post on the advice of my personal barrister. But I will say this:

KISS MY BIG FAT ARSE Shorty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CMKX TO DA MOON, BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Geeze, with that I hope the "God's" hurry and rain down fire. Better not turn around and look back or you may be turned to a pillar of salt.

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Bill, I have a good one for you, Jay adobe. The one that passed off the cree theory as fact is now saying that it is still true. That they just had regular people names. roflmao

By: jay_adobe
24 Jul 2005, 05:49 PM EDT

aloha, If you research the Executive Council of the 72 nations, you will find similarities. Yes, they all are not there, but there are those that appear on the list. Oh, and the names do not have to sound native american. They are common names in Canada. Common household names.


By: tonymac17
24 Jul 2005, 05:54 PM EDT

JAy a good con man, when confronted with a lie will just go lying, I must say you are good at your BS

JAy, going thru the names on the list now I see what you are saying, Chief James Martini and warrior Bruce Macdonald are very common Cree names.

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Heres some comic relief from the chief pumper himself. Sounds to me he is trying to avoid jail time.


Sterling on CMKX 24 July 05
By: stervc 24 Jul 2005, 05:18 PM EDT
Msg. 241909 of 241909 @ Sterling's Classroom Member Forum
http://tinyurl.com/ajwcj

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Flugelbinders and ALL, with CMKX...

Please understand, we must always keep things real when certain facts have been brought out be it good or bad. We speculate on options for a resolution when certain facts are not known.

However, once certain facts are known, reality must be considered and decisions must be made on an “actual” basis and not a “speculative” basis or at least up unto a point.

Anyone out there, take any company in the market. Now analyze their outstanding shares (OS). Now place that number you used as the OS to analyze that same company with converting it to 703+ Billion shares. No matter what and how good you thought of the company, it will now have to be considered differently. That doesn’t mean that you stop believing in the company any more or less.

You can still believe in the company as we do with CMKX, but it doesn’t matter what we think, it’s what the market would think as to how they would trade CMKX which means that more valuation would have to be announce as what was expected to fundamentally justify certain price levels. The OS is the key denominator for establishing fundamental valuation to determine the price of a stock. The larger the OS, the lower the EPS will be unless there is enough Income revealed to compensate.

If you noticed about my speculations of CMKX having a chance to hit the dollars, they were posted under the thought of the OS being 4 billion, 40 billion, or some number far less than 703+ billion. I also stated that it would be predicated upon a certain amount of valuation being revealed too. I had done such by using some ratio logic comparison with the valuation that was confirmed from the land that was owned by DeBeers which was way far less than what we owned. I think some people have still chosen to ignore such and only remember the dollar amounts in those posts that were mentioned and not how they were derived.

If all was complete “doom and gloom” as some might think, Urban could have closed shop and left a long time ago. We all have got to know something that is a strong positive in my opinion. Urban could have saved millions over the past few months and allowed CMKX to just crumble away. He didn’t. I do think that Urban wants to do right by shareholders. There was no doubt some bad decisions that were made back in the past in which I have no idea why they were made. I am not sure what were the plans and thoughts to generate those decisions. I do know that he is trying to file and that would be the first step to making all of this right.

So I ask myself…

Why did Urban pay millions to hire a new TEAM and Auditor to complete the filings?

Why didn’t he just let CMKX go away?

Why are the bashers still bashing a stock that trades with 4 zeros behind the decimal?

Why hadn’t the SEC shut down CMKX months to a year ago since they have known much of what we are just now finding out?

Could it be like I said that everyone within the SEC is not bad?

I think that maybe there is a trump card that Urban, the bashers, and the SEC knows that Urban is holding that could be the fix to all! Please, I don’t want to get everyone’s hopes up high on false beliefs, because there have been enough facts that we must acknowledge as being negative things that have transpired. We still have some huge hurdles to get over still.

With all of the things that have been brought out, I don’t care how much you believe in CMKX, you better not ignore the facts with any stock as a standard practice for investing during and after CMKX. If for nothing else, take such as some learning experiences about being overconfident in your investment. This has been a very humbling experience for all, the good, the bad, and the ugly!

When you move on to your next investments, you don’t need to think that the external variables that reside in CMKX are those that should be warranted for having a good investment. Yes, I do think that CMKX is different as I have mentioned this for months. Understand, CMKX is the only stock that I think that I would be in with these negatives that have been revealed and yet still feel confident of a positive resolution.

No, I have not lost my faith, but there is much that must not be ignored. It’s no ego thing with me as now is the time for me to practice what I preach to remove emotions when trying to make a sound investment decision and look at the facts once they are revealed. As it stands, the bashers were right about some key thoughts that we all who are pro CMKX were wrong from the facts that have been brought out. Admitting that does not mean that I don’t believe in CMKX for a positive resolution.

One of the things that were rumored back when I first got into CMKX was that before CMKX really takes off and turns that corner for good, all of the negative will be brought out first and people will think that all was lost. I can see what is happening and I hope that rumor is true although I had not expected for such to be this wild of a ride.

Flugelbinders, whether you want to see this or not, we are going to have to move forward no matter what, either with or without CMKX. I have been trying to get people to see such. Seeing such does not mean that you don’t believe in CMKX. It’s the inevitable!

All is well!
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I am not about to go to that particular forum, but I think someone from Allstocks should go there and post A GREAT BIG THANK YOU TO PEDRO!!!


Snake, (aka cobra or Viper),

"It is just as easy to discount all of your theories and even esasier to discout Wallsac i, sorry for the typo i meant wallace. And as far as wallace i am discounting HIM not his theories."

I doubt if anyone (except maybe legal) cares about what you count or discount on this thread. I certainly do not!!!

I have yet to see you contribute anything anyway.

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SSShhhhhhhhh! Can you hear it? QUACK! QUACK! QUACK!
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I love you to Wallace, I may be the duck, but at least i am not just a duck-head. I have to go now i am late for spelling class. as you can see i mess up words alot. I have troible with I' s and U ' s

If you want contribution, here ya go. I just contributed online $10.00 to the American Lung Assoc. in the name of Wallace #1. Its my personal favorite Charity. They do so much....

Anyway,
Night night love chunks, see you on monday.

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Suppose to donate to the Kidney foundation, lol. Momma needs a new kidney, really.

They all do so much.

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What should make a lot mad is the fact that Frizzell had this Master shareholders list and told it members nothing about the fact that the float was this bad and the so called owners really don't own nothing.

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Make a donation to the National Bowel Foundation. IMO, UC will need massive work done in that area when the SEC and FBI are done with him.

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Ok legal, guess this has been pretty much discounted, any other positive you see?

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One positive thing. Hmmmm How about the General Ledger entry showing

As of Dec 31, 2004

Mining Claims $126,000,000

Now I asked Wallace to look over those Ledgers and lend his "expertise" but he doesn't seem willing or able to do such at this point. So I will at least let him tell you how Cost Basis Accounting applies to a Diamond Exploration Company when they cost out the claims. He can tell you how that number is the cost of the claims for 2004, not the valuation based on test results. But hey, don't let me interrupt the accounting guru. He's probably irritated about having to clean that byrd mess off his windshield.



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quote:
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Make a donation to the National Bowel Foundation. IMO, UC will need massive work done in that area when the SEC and FBI are done with him.

And the IRS!!!
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"I love you to Wallace, I may be the duck, but at least i am not just a duck-head."

Wrong again, cobra. I guess you are about the only "duck-head" posting on this thread who doesn't know what I mean by "QUACK! QUACK! QUACK!"

By the way, cobra, another grammar lesson. The proper word to use is "too" in your post "I love you to...". Can you remember that for 5 seconds?
Where's dwman, when someone such as you butchers the English language? The grammar you butcher is 3rd or 4th grade knowledge!

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Re Ric's repost of Jay_adobe's post above. Jay stated, "They are common names in Canada. Common household names."

LMAO!! Yeah, common household names like vacuum cleaner, dish ran with spoon, lounge chair, garbage disposal and dirty dishes. Didn't see "trash can" there anywhere either.

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Now I know why I didn't see "trash can" there. That's the name they will be giving UC in prison.
Get it?

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SEC Exhibit 14
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SEC Exhibit 14

SEC Exhibit 14 is a Detailed Stock Certificate Register Report from 1990 through 12/31/2004
This Exhibit contains 504 pages.

I have broken down the pages into a summary excel report that I created.
This report will list the:
~~~ Name of the company.
~~~ Location of the company.
~~~ Certificate Shares issued to the company.
~~~ Certificate Shares surrendered by the company.
~~~ Certificate Shares still held by the company.

Page 1 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/9b99hd.jpg
Page 2 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/9b99pw.jpg
Page 3 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/9b9b8n.jpg
Page 4 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/9b9bh0.jpg
Page 5 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/9b9boh.jpg
Page 6 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/9b9bux.jpg
Page 7 ~~~ http://tinypic.com/9b9c41.jpg

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Hi honey I am home!

like i said waldo, if u can't hang,,,, insult grammar. You must be very lonely,,, to sit all day on a mess. brd and correct spelling etc. Remember the last time you told me to remember it for 5 seconds you seemed to have forgotten in 4 seconds. Its ok though I understand that at your age. Hey cheer up though,,,, I bet this year you will be able to hide your own easter basket. Do it on Good friday, then by Easter sunday you will have long forgotten where it is and you can try to find it.
Wow its amazing how low people can feel when they have nothing to do all day. When they are depressed, lonely, just sitting there trying to feel like you still have importance. Like they still have a place in society. Yeah you might have a few dollars but heck, one day you could lose it all,,,then what? I guess if this is what cheers you up, then i should let you go about your day. wouldn't want you to sink into depression. Depressed people do bad things to themselves. self pity will get you every time wont it.


You asked for a contribution,,, how did I do? I actually gave it to them, not just a gag. I figured you might need their help one day....

COBRACOBRA

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How many companies with ties to Casavant were "given" (?) shares?

Re: Part Time Management - just under 16 billion shares:

"Interestingly, a search of Nevada-registered corporations reveals a company named Part Time Management Inc., with "Part" and "Time" not elided. The registered agent for Part Time Management is David Desormeau, who has a number of connections to Mr. Casavant. Part Time Management's officers are identified as James Kinney and Ginger Gutierrez. Mr. Kinney and Ms. Gutierrez previously served as investor relations representatives for CMKM."

Wasn't one of the Casavants also Pres. or some other officer of that company? Why were shares issued to that company? How many other Casavant or associates' companies were given billions of shares? Who authorized those issuances?

In addition to that almost 16 billion shares, James Kinney and Family got 89+ billion shares and Guterrez got an additional almost 24 billion shares.

As I recall, Part Time Management was one of those companies touting the stock or at least paid a company to tout it....something like a billion shares. Sounds like a Pump and Dump to me!

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Also saw Allan Moen and Family as well as MCM Trust. Allan Moen was a defendant along with Casavant and MCM Minerals (may or may not be associated with MCM Trust, but sure looks like it could be). That was about another 3-5 billion shs total.
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Still, there is no 51% nor is there any major JV's owning major share.

I also noticed that some brokers have listed there clients in there name while others are in cede & co. So my question is did Frizzell realize this. Better yet remember the cult throwing a fit because some of the brokers weren't in the list Frizzell posted. IT WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE IN CEDE AND COMPANY. So there was no way to know how much from say Ameritrade Canada because there shares where there just in Cede and not listed in brokers name. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill.

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So many theories being busted. Thank You Padro. You have done more to crush CMKX then all of us here and on the other boards combined. But the koolaid is still too strong for the heavy drinkers. Not sure if UC himself came out and said I scammed you fools that they would still find some twist in it. They would say that the SEC made him do it.

See what I mean:

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posted on 7/24/2005 at 11:27 PM

*Urban, thank you for your immense efforts!


Many of these efforts, which I feel have your Company and it's Shareholders as a primary focus, will only be completely understood when the dust clears. I, as I am sure a number of other CMKX Shareholders, do not need the dust to clear to have me extend my sincere and tremendous appreciation for all that I know you have done (and continue to do) behind the scenes on your Shareholder's behalf. I feel very strong that your intent has always been one that is "righteous", and that your demeanor has been one that exemplifies honor and integrity.

Thank you again, and God Bless you and your family always!

Peter
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[ July 25, 2005, 01:27: Message edited by: Ric ]

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Hey, anyone remember the following:

"D. Roger Glenn, CMKM's counsel, stated, "I will be traveling to Saskatchewan with the company's management to expand my knowledge of the company and its business in order to facilitate the company becoming fully reporting."

Didn't I just hear that repeated by Frizzy? LOL

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I just love going back over old posts for a few laughs. Here's part of a post by Debi you know who:

"At .0003 the company is valued at $240 Million Dollars. I think that is very low considering the area we own our mineral rights in and that we have an aerial survey showing great potential for diamonds. If Roger Glenn felt comfortable taking CMKX and UC as clients and he is still with them that is good enough for me that they are legit. Roger Glenn apparently thought their office set up wherever it is, is sufficient for business and legal purposes. If Roger Glenn with his former ties to the SEC and background as an accountant with Deloitte; and spotless reputation feels that CMKX is legitimate enough for him to be associated with then I am not going to be worried about what someone posts that is unsubstantiated."
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Some accountant Glenn must have been, huh. One page summary of his work for the Hearings.

Prior to this post there had been some talk about the CMKX office being in UC's home as slipped out by Melvin.

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Yet Wallace with all this information, the cult still isn't giving in. Not sure what has to happen for them to see the truth. Any reasonable person can see the facts already available. I guess you just don't know the effects of brainwashing until it happens to you.

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