quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: "Do you know where they ended up? Who has them now?" ---------------
Probably the OG, faithful, cult members. Who the hell else would want to buy them?
Only time will tell what you obviously cannot. But sorry guys, the Pedro documents are just too old to hang your hats on for having any idea of what has been going on for the last 7 months. Sorry, go get us some fresh information, like the real researchers do.
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Report: Derby profited from hedge fund accused of fleecing investors of millions of dollars. July 26, 2005: 12:58 PM EDT
Special Report full coverage
NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - The Securities and Exchange Commission's former operations chief made a bundle in a New York hedge fund being investigated by the U.S. Attorney's Office for fleecing investors out of tens of millions of dollars, a newspaper report said Tuesday.
Derby, managing executive for operations and management under former SEC Chairman William Donaldson, made a profit of $186,000 in the Sterling Watters hedge fund, which is also being sued by the SEC, the New York Post reported.
Derby is being sued along with 26 other investors who allegedly made profits by investing with Angelo Haligiannis, who ran Sterling Watters, the Post said.
Haligiannis was indicted by the U.S. Attorney's Office last September for running a pyramid scheme, and inflating returns and assets at the fund, according to the report.
The newspaper cited Institutional Investor's Alpha magazine as saying that Derby redeemed his entire $1 million investment in July 2003, just months after he joined the SEC.
Derby, who is leaving the SEC this week, and the SEC, which has filed suit against Haligiannis and Sterling Watters, did not return calls from the Post.
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Famous or infamous Urban quotes from the past.
nabru Diamond Hunter -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How many can you come up with that never materialized.
"In diamond mining there is never any 100% guarantees," Urban explained. "We have a huge site with world class machinery and highly educated people exploring it. The gem quality is at least 2.5 X the world average and we are doing year round mining."
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PR Dec. 12, 2002
Urban Casavant, Chairman stated, "Integral to our mission statement is our relationship with our shareholders. We believe the website will be a frequently visited source of information for our shareholders and friends. As part of the website, shareholders will be able to email for fast and efficient answers, attend web news casts and other milestone events in the Company's history."
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PR Nov. 27, 2002
Chairman Casavant further stated, "Upon completion of the business plan our auditors will prepare our proformas and forecast to be announced,"
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DDP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LAS VEGAS, Dec 17, 2003 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via Comtex/ -- Casavant Mining Kimberlite International (Pink Sheets: CMKM) announced today that the company has officially retired 16,520,477,200 shares of CMKM stock back to the Treasury.
Urban Casavant, President of CMKM stated, "This is a huge step to create greater shareholder value by reducing the amount of shares issued of CMKM by over 16.5 billion shares. We also plan to retire more shares back to the treasury as soon as all necessary paper work is completed."
Casavant Mining International, Inc. (CMI) is currently private but will announce its plan to go public by Friday, December 19, 2003.
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Real research, lol. Where. All that has ever been stated was theories and most of them have been proven wrong. The company refuses to give information so where is this real research? Since the cult refuses to tell where they get anything yet they think you must believe them. The only place they can get there research is from their delusional minds. Give one once of proof that anything is factual about CMKX not being a scam. Not I believe. The only facts we have gotten from CMKX is from the hearing. The Company refuses to say anything. Conspiracy, so we can't say anything.
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Speaking of masturbation I haven't seen anything lately from the honorable oral orgasming fool, Dr D. What's his latest, last I saw him he was backing up with the smell of chit in his blood.
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Legal is a bag of hot air. He pretends to know something the rest of us dont, but when pressed for it, we get told to do more DD. If he were any kind of a man, and had anything concrete to contribute, he would just tell us what he can of what he knows, instead of playing mind games.
I have a job for ya, legal. Our local winery has an opening for a guy who is responsible for cleaning the used wine-bottle corks, so they can be used over. All he has to do is boil each cork for an hour to make sure all traces of contamination are removed. Let me know if you're interested, and I'll forward the phone number to you. Oh, by the way, the job title is "Dirty Cork Soaker"
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I think its a buck an hour and all you can drink.
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Hey I'm just doing a little real DD for legal. How can he make a good decision without all the facts. Oops ! Sorry, that is his specialty. Even when he knows the facts he'll either disregard them or change them to support his contentions and fantasies. He'd probably make the cork soaker job sound good by saying it with French accent. LOL
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I have only one more item to cover before I say goodnight to the thread, and you gentlemen.
This is directed to legal. Most reasonable humans on this earth help out their friends whenever they can. I have seen people go out of their way to help somebody less fortunate than they. They are never nasty about it or request remuneration for their services, as most are glad to give it free. Others are mean, spiteful wretches who wouldnt help out even if they were paid. How does this apply to CMKX, you ask?
If you are indeed what you say you are, and know what you say you do, I would think that you would be eager to share what you know with others who are just trying to make a little money in stocks. But all you ever do is make assumptions. If you have any real facts, how about throwing us a bone or two. I've shared my viewpoints with others on different stocks, because when push comes to shove, we are all here for the same reason....to make money. The more of us that give what we know to others is what makes ALL of us successful. If you are not that type, then I can only choose to classify you with the second kind.
I wish we could all get along, get rich (or at least comfortable), and share. Who knows what we might accomplish if we stuck together. And I'm not talking about banding together with a lawyer, I'm talking about sharing information that we KNOW to be true with each other.
I'm done, do as you will, but I have hopes that you are like the rest of us, trying to get along. Good night, gentlemen, and good luck in whatever stock you may pick to invest in.
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Joined: Jun 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 105 Location: Compton, CA Keys to becoming a CMKX guru...by OU812!!!!!! « Thread Started on Today at 12:36pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are you sick of being called a basher? Do your posts drop to the bottom of the page without being read? Well my friend, if you in this boat than I am here to help. Follow these simple tips and you are sure to be a hit with the crowd!
1) Make a good first impression...start with your thread title. The title of your thread should be as flamboyant as possible. a. Use as many symbols as possible...***^^*@@@ etc b. Make sure you add exclamation points after the title (at least 3) because people cannot wait to read your next post! (you are a guru after all!!!) c. Make sure you add your user name after the exclamation points because people are on the lookout for your posts! Who cares if the poster's name is already under the column "started by".
2) PUMP PUMP PUMP!!! a. What's wrong? You have no facts? Who cares just Pump, PUmp, PUMP! b. Create catchy new phrases such as "if your in you win" c. Always mention a buyout with the hint of a cash divy. d. CMKX's valuation is over a trillion-gazillion-fabillion dollars no matter what the bashers say! e. If someone questions you tell them to sell!!!!! Call them a basher!!! Don't worry the rest of the pumpers have your back!!!
3) You are now an insider and have key details about cmkx's operations!!! a. Make statements such as...just wait until UC unveils his "MASTER PLAN" b. True longs will be rewarded c. This whole revocation thing had to happen...it was part of the script! d. We can't file because our enemys will know what we have! e. Bashers only bash a good stock!
OK...gotta get back to work now. Please feel free to add more so we can all become CMKX Gurus!!!!!!
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You're losing it, ed. Do you really want this guy's information, it is so tainted and twisted it's worth, CRAP !
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quote:Originally posted by ed19363: Legal is a bag of hot air. He pretends to know something the rest of us dont, but when pressed for it, we get told to do more DD. If he were any kind of a man, and had anything concrete to contribute, he would just tell us what he can of what he knows, instead of playing mind games.
I have a job for ya, legal. Our local winery has an opening for a guy who is responsible for cleaning the used wine-bottle corks, so they can be used over. All he has to do is boil each cork for an hour to make sure all traces of contamination are removed. Let me know if you're interested, and I'll forward the phone number to you. Oh, by the way, the job title is "Dirty Cork Soaker"
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In the past I have told people here the nature of the DD that is done in the group that I work with. And some of the things that they do are....well......borderline. So if I told you any more I would have to.............well, you know. LOL
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Just make sure the bottle doesn't say "cork cleaned by Will" and you should be ok Highway.
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: Legal, Is CMKX & JV's all your group concentrates it's efforts on?
About 80% for most of the group. About 90% for me. We do check on other stocks and share pertinent investment information. But CMKX is the "holy grail" of DD and research. kinda like NY, if you can make it there you can make it anywhere.
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"About 80% for most of the group. About 90% for me. We do check on other stocks and share pertinent investment information."
Then they use the other 23 hours and 59 minutes of the day to sleep and dream.
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Over the weekend, it was high absorption in DD, poring over the reams of evidence, even if it was over half a year old. Ahhh but today it's back to the old level of intellectual sophistication: mastubation, cork soaking and individual bashing. Home Sweet Home
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It kind of reminds me of the old saying... you can't squeeze blood from a turnip.Only thing is, everybody seems to be out for blood.A while back it was like everytime CMKX would put out some good news, the JV's pps is what would run.Ofcourse not much PR out by CMKX for awhile,yet I see USCA is moving pretty good as of late.Why don't they (CMKX) just do whatever it is their going to do allready!LOL
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quote:Originally posted by will: Speaking of masturbation I haven't seen anything lately from the honorable oral orgasming fool, Dr D. What's his latest, last I saw him he was backing up with the smell of chit in his blood.
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Joined: Aug 2004 Gender: Male Posts: 1,098 Location: Kentucky Mr. Casavant I believe it is time for information « Thread Started on Today at 12:19am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. Casavant I believe it is time for information – FWIW - The Short version
I am still 100% behind CMKX, but some of this silence is unacceptable, suspicious, damaging, and ridiculous from a caring man of your character. Especially seeing that most of the following are simple to be remedied, IMHO. I believe much of the discouragement from the shareholders is coming from the ineffectiveness of management to communicate with the shareholders and simply let them know
1. Where are we at now as a whole?
2. What actions are we taking to resolve our problems and develop our assets?
3. What will become of us in the future whether there is a revocation or not?
I believe early on there was concern about how we got to where we are right now, but I believe the 3 questions above have won out as the curiosity about the past for the majority of the shareholders that I have had communication with has lessened.
My opinion - The Longer version
It is time for the company to at least speak up even if they don’t put up. The NSS position and the claims are still very real and very valuable in assessing the investment potential of CMKX regardless. IMHO of course.
It is sad that so many shareholders have sold and more than likely many are going to follow suit over the next week especially if the company doesn’t inform us of its progress on the settlement proposal and or the filing of the Appeal very “soon”. (Sorry for the usage.) IMHO, the silence of Mr. Casavant and the company is doing more to destroy the shareholder base than “shorty”, bashers, the NSS position, and a significantly sub penny PPS could ever do and there is absolutely nothing any of us has been able to do about it. Most have tolerated the oppressed PPS, fought the bashers, attacked “Shorty”, and financed an effort to expose the NSS position, but this silence from the company kind of takes the wind out of every ones sails.
I understand that the road is rocky right now and it is very difficult to stay on path and anyone that can’t and sells should not have to suffer persecution from the longs or the shareholders that are trenched in. I do know that we, the shareholders, joined together as a family and have backed the play of the company for an extended period of time with next to absolutely nothing to ride on. We have relied on the PR’s of old for some time until even the claims we value so highly seem to be irrelevant not knowing what the company truly intends to do with them.
Personally I am still hanging in and holding on. I have not heard anything from the company as to what the immediate plans are so I know no more than you do. I am being told that many more shareholders have been selling than is showing up on the daily volumes. It appears that 10’s of billions have been going through on level 3 which could mean that “Shorty” is getting a whole lot of shares from worn out shareholders to settle up on a portion of the NSS position for next to nothing. I will tell you I am making every possible effort to buy as many shares as I can at these prices. If some are selling, I can’t stop that but I am buying if for no other reason than to keep as many as I can out of “Shorty’s” hands.
We are all aware that there is more information floating around right now than most know what to do with and unfortunately we are left for our own interpretations of what this information is saying. I fully believe an explanation needs to come from the company although I honestly don’t believe we will get it. I personally have never asked anyone to have a kind of a blind faith in myself, but it appears that Mr. Casavant and Mr. Maheu is expecting that from us. Maybe this is the true price we are expected to pay to reap the benefits of CMKX in the long run. Whether we like it or not, that is kind of where we are and at this point the alternative (of selling) is and always has been completely unacceptable.
On the other hand, I believe that the company is still waiting for the response of the SEC/Commission on the settlement proposal from our legal counsel, in spite of others known disagreement with my assumption. We are under the opinion that the SEC attorneys sent the Settlement Proposal on to the Commission with an opinion. This is very interesting, IMHO, for I believe if the SEC attorneys did not approve of the proposal they would never have forwarded it on to the Commission for consideration. Seeing the attorneys seemed to be satisfied with the proposal it could go well that the company is able to enter the settlement agreement and the Administrative Hearing kind of goes away. The burden of proof or the demand to satisfy the objectives of the proposal will be upon the company and the SEC is off the hook, so to speak. If the settlement process doesn’t manifest any results by this weeks end then the company, IMHO should go ahead and file the Appeal by Friday at the latest. We only had 21 days to file the Appeal on the initial decision to revoke and without an appeal or an accepted settlement proposal in place, I believe we get the order for the final decision to revoke the registration.
The Appeals process could take as long as 6 to 9 months overall and this is not exactly what most shareholders were hoping for. The settlement proposal could take as long as 120 days and that is not what most shareholders were hoping for either.
Another alternative the company could be considering is to permit the revocation and then focus on filing a Form 10 to reregister which may actually be the shortest time frame for all involved. I don’t think anyone wants a final revocation so I would think that this option for the company would be kind of a last resort, but it still could show up on the table.
None of us know absolutely what is happening at this point and the company isn’t saying, so “there you go”!
That takes us back to the beginning of this thread and the 3 questions.
I still believe if we stay in we win, but the time frame is up for grabs until transparency is achieved in CMKX! These are all just my opinions and I ask that you treat them as such.
quote:Originally posted by Upside: Just make sure the bottle doesn't say "cork cleaned by Will" and you should be ok Highway.
Just hope noone uses an old rusty corkscrew on it.LOL How you doing Up, well I hope.
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: It kind of reminds me of the old saying... you can't squeeze blood from a turnip.Only thing is, everybody seems to be out for blood.A while back it was like everytime CMKX would put out some good news, the JV's pps is what would run.Ofcourse not much PR out by CMKX for awhile,yet I see USCA is moving pretty good as of late.Why don't they (CMKX) just do whatever it is their going to do allready!LOL
Sometimes waiting is doing what you're going to do.
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"1. Where are we at now as a whole?" That would be in the abyss of an ass-whole, pretty dark there, Dr D.
"2. What actions are we taking to resolve our problems and develop our assets?" The only actions be taken is to cover our asses, never mid the assets, they have been pissed away already.
"3. What will become of us in the future whether there is a revocation or not?" Ever hear the saying, "you're f--ked" !
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Are you staying on top of all these Legal? What about BBAN?The Williams connection.
My head hurts.
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"I will tell you I am making every possible effort to buy as many shares as I can at these prices. If some are selling, I can’t stop that but I am buying if for no other reason than to keep as many as I can out of “Shorty’s” hands."
Keep it up fool! That way maybe some of the many you sucked into buying CMKX might be pleased. SURE THEY WILL!!!
will,
Sure did like the way you expressed the facts about 1-2-3 above.
Every time that guy says something, it confirms his nickname Dr.Dementia.
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Like you Wallace, the one thing I was pleased to read that Dr Dummy is still buying. LOL At least he says he is. He writes well enough to have an education that would allow him to understand my answer to his query #3. So, he's probably saying he's buying to encourage his followers, (aka puke eaters), to buy, while he's dumping them quicker then the Casavant family did.
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Ric, the procedure is ... "Step away from the coolaid, put your hands behind your head and take three steps back... you have the right to remain silent, you have the right to an attorney (frizz?), whatever you say .... etc ,etc
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