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Wow, thats pretty lucky indeed. I have been watching the updates from work too.
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What thread are we using? im going to stick here till we decide whether or not to close it.
any how.
now here is where i think we are.
We had 15.5 billion shares o/s
6 billion shares are restricted.
that leaves 11.5 billion.
now we have been told that Frank bought up 2% of the A/S and we heard from Rene in the CC that they had already bought about 600 million. and that they where not done.
the estimate is they bought back 1 billion, and Frank retired 1 billion.
that brings us to 9.5 billion. now you take the 3% buyback that was pred
so now that brings up to 9.215 billion.
of that Frank owns 53% of the outstanding. which is 4.884 billion shares leaving 4.331 outstanding.
this is where i feel we are less the 3% that Franks says he was buying back
With that all said and done. I believe we are in great shape.
now. if we where to move to a move to a new exchange with a 3-1 merger of our shares we would be looking at a 1.44 billion outstanding share count. a 4 -1 split would leave us around a billion.
this is the way i see us heading in the near future. This is purely speculation and so do not take this as gospel.
Rod
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it is remarkable. the crew should get a metal for getting everyone off before the explosion took place.
Rod
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With this in mind Rod, I can't believe QBID wasn't shorted to High Heaven today. 25% of the entire float and it moved .0001 No way!! I went thru the charts and tracked the stock movement for 2 years and everytime we hit anywhere near 1 billion shares it at least doubled if not way more. This was great News and the stock was pounded down hard by the MM's. There is going to be some Major short covering soon. Just burns me up to see this obvious manipulation.
GLTA
quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: What thread are we using? im going to stick here till we decide whether or not to close it.
any how.
now here is where i think we are.
We had 15.5 billion shares o/s
6 billion shares are restricted.
that leaves 11.5 billion.
now we have been told that Frank bought up 2% of the A/S and we heard from Rene in the CC that they had already bought about 600 million. and that they where not done.
the estimate is they bought back 1 billion, and Frank retired 1 billion.
that brings us to 9.5 billion. now you take the 3% buyback that was pred
so now that brings up to 9.215 billion.
of that Frank owns 53% of the outstanding. which is 4.884 billion shares leaving 4.331 outstanding.
this is where i feel we are less the 3% that Franks says he was buying back
With that all said and done. I believe we are in great shape.
now. if we where to move to a move to a new exchange with a 3-1 merger of our shares we would be looking at a 1.44 billion outstanding share count. a 4 -1 split would leave us around a billion.
this is the way i see us heading in the near future. This is purely speculation and so do not take this as gospel.
Rod
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quote:Originally posted by Chopper: With this in mind Rod, I can't believe QBID wasn't shorted to High Heaven today. 25% of the entire float and it moved .0001 No way!! I went thru the charts and tracked the stock movement for 2 years and everytime we hit anywhere near 1 billion shares it at least doubled if not way more. This was great News and the stock was pounded down hard by the MM's. There is going to be some Major short covering soon. Just burns me up to see this obvious manipulation.
GLTA
quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: What thread are we using? im going to stick here till we decide whether or not to close it.
any how.
now here is where i think we are.
We had 15.5 billion shares o/s
6 billion shares are restricted.
that leaves 11.5 billion.
now we have been told that Frank bought up 2% of the A/S and we heard from Rene in the CC that they had already bought about 600 million. and that they where not done.
the estimate is they bought back 1 billion, and Frank retired 1 billion.
that brings us to 9.5 billion. now you take the 3% buyback that was pred
so now that brings up to 9.215 billion.
of that Frank owns 53% of the outstanding. which is 4.884 billion shares leaving 4.331 outstanding.
this is where i feel we are less the 3% that Franks says he was buying back
With that all said and done. I believe we are in great shape.
now. if we where to move to a move to a new exchange with a 3-1 merger of our shares we would be looking at a 1.44 billion outstanding share count. a 4 -1 split would leave us around a billion.
this is the way i see us heading in the near future. This is purely speculation and so do not take this as gospel.
Rod
I am sure this day was recorded by the sec and Franks lawyers. Let's see what happens.
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quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: What thread are we using? im going to stick here till we decide whether or not to close it.
any how.
now here is where i think we are.
We had 15.5 billion shares o/s
6 billion shares are restricted.
that leaves 11.5 billion.
now we have been told that Frank bought up 2% of the A/S and we heard from Rene in the CC that they had already bought about 600 million. and that they where not done.
the estimate is they bought back 1 billion, and Frank retired 1 billion.
that brings us to 9.5 billion. now you take the 3% buyback that was pred
so now that brings up to 9.215 billion.
of that Frank owns 53% of the outstanding. which is 4.884 billion shares leaving 4.331 outstanding.
this is where i feel we are less the 3% that Franks says he was buying back
With that all said and done. I believe we are in great shape.
now. if we where to move to a move to a new exchange with a 3-1 merger of our shares we would be looking at a 1.44 billion outstanding share count. a 4 -1 split would leave us around a billion.
this is the way i see us heading in the near future. This is purely speculation and so do not take this as gospel.
Rod
PT, I thnk you are off by a Billion on the float. 15.5B - 6B restricted = 9.5B
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does anyone remember back in september there was a guy (he was outted as Marco but denied that was his name) on another message board who claimed he was doing private placement for Q, that he owned his own investment company?
cuz his original statements come close to the math that Bearclaw came up with regarding the o/s, but with one exception: he had stated that his own ownership plus his clients' private placement made them almost 25% owners of Q.
remember this?
--> • own 350,000,000 shares, and i will not sell a single shares until the comapny goes live on comcast and time warner. maybe 6 months from now
• in closing i just want to say that i am a 2.5% owner and a fund that I placed the deal with now owns 21%.. We are almost 25% of the comapny and we are all restricted and long. i cant sell for a yr and plan to near .05 (Now, this one appears to contradict his previous statement about holding for "maybe 6 months")
• shares count remains in the 9B range, that was after the last placement was done last week. the investors are long term.
• there is alot of shares but just like the sotck ran to almost .03 it will do this again. eventually they are going to have to restructure but not until they attempt to go amex.
• institutional investor has 1.8 B shares
now going off of that math, assuming he was telling the truth (a lot of what he said came to fruition just in a longer time than he anticipated).. if then 53% was taken off the table, plus the buybacks...
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: does anyone remember back in september there was a guy (he was outted as Marco but denied that was his name) on another message board who claimed he was doing private placement for Q, that he owned his own investment company?
cuz his original statements come close to the math that Bearclaw came up with regarding the o/s, but with one exception: he had stated that his own ownership plus his clients' private placement made them almost 25% owners of Q.
remember this?
--> • own 350,000,000 shares, and i will not sell a single shares until the comapny goes live on comcast and time warner. maybe 6 months from now
• in closing i just want to say that i am a 2.5% owner and a fund that I placed the deal with now owns 21%.. We are almost 25% of the comapny and we are all restricted and long. i cant sell for a yr and plan to near .05 (Now, this one appears to contradict his previous statement about holding for "maybe 6 months")
• shares count remains in the 9B range, that was after the last placement was done last week. the investors are long term.
• there is alot of shares but just like the sotck ran to almost .03 it will do this again. eventually they are going to have to restructure but not until they attempt to go amex.
• institutional investor has 1.8 B shares
now going off of that math, assuming he was telling the truth (a lot of what he said came to fruition just in a longer time than he anticipated).. if then 53% was taken off the table, plus the buybacks...
i confused myself. somebody do the math?
~BB
bb, I remmember something about that. lilpennypincher comes to mind about bringing that forward. I maybe wrong but that was the same time frame.
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Whad up, I am hearing strong rumors that the company is about to file and is filing to trade on the OTC BB. A filing in itself would take this stock to .02+!! I'm hearing this could happen in the next several days. I don't have any concrete proof, this is just the word on the streets. Anyone else hear anything along these lines? In any fashion, I think the stock will make a nice run starting tomorrow. I also think most of the shorts are out of the stock and the MM's can now take it higher without getting burned. Let's get this money
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Hi to my QBID friends What a day! I would like to share some thoughts. Everyone I know, and everyone I hearing about, are loading up on Q. These are all long positions. What they buy, like mine are now off the trading float. That’s more pressure on the shorts and pps. In the past Frank has stated his displeasure of the manipulation, but has not acted. Fridays PR was the same except he said that he had a plan. Today he started implementing the plan. Today’s PR is just the FIRST of a choreographed effort to rid Q of the MM’s and bring the pps higher. The buy backs are complete. Q is at a stage in its development where a sub-penny pps is detrimental to Q. I would not be surprised if Frank announces another buy back to help move the pps up vs. the last ones to accumulate for investment. I think we will see the release of the financials and become a fully reporting company. Additionally I believe that we will announce Q’s application to an exchange. All this will show the rest of Time Warner and other carriers that Q is for real and it adds immeasurably to our clout. With the pps movement to the pennies, the investment community will take notice and start accumulating for long term. The float will dry-up on its own!
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I think we all should take a moment and think of what “BearClaw”, on page 100 at 17:24, said: “So my question is...Could Frank have caught them with their pants down and be screwing the MM's to the wall? He has been pissed off for a long time...”
Personally, I couldn’t think of a better Man and Company (Queer TV) to be screwing these MM’s.
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i am sitting here thinking of something to say, but it seems like nothing needs to be said..Frank said he was going to implement a full plan, and he is doing so, and if that was only the 1st step, than i cant wait to see the next one!!!
i know many of you may think i dont know what i am talking about, but again, i will add some more points in about MM manipulation and how we have probably recorded the end of the MM shorts on Qbid (at least for a while imo)... ---i always think logically, i hope, and the way i see it, is that the MM are there to make money, and they get like a 3% bonus each christmas as a percentage of what they made for their company..---soo.....yes they were shorting it on the way down, but now that they see all this positive actions being taken and the huge steps and hugely manipulated share price they see that they have to cover their shorts and they can make money on the way up now!
the very interesting thing, is that i believe that Q is now ready for a LONG TERM uptrend...i mean, it probably will be steadily increasing throughout the year
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ladies and gentleman...i would like to say thank you guys for everything and i really apprecaite many of your friendships...this is where friends are made of, getting dragged through the ditches before it is made good..and this is where you can tell your true friends are..
--so, before it all begins--
let me say that I will never forget you guys and this time in my life....this week may change us all..
good luck everybody
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Someone...I don't remember who, had a slogan after their name. It went something like this... "A friend will bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying...damn that was fun"...I have repeated that saying quite a few times since the first day I saw it on here. I'm sitting...
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Qnique, Sounds good was the word from huggy bear? Just a wild guess.
quote:Originally posted by qnique: Whad up, I am hearing strong rumors that the company is about to file and is filing to trade on the OTC BB. A filing in itself would take this stock to .02+!! I'm hearing this could happen in the next several days. I don't have any concrete proof, this is just the word on the streets. Anyone else hear anything along these lines? In any fashion, I think the stock will make a nice run starting tomorrow. I also think most of the shorts are out of the stock and the MM's can now take it higher without getting burned. Let's get this money
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quote:Originally posted by Deg's wife: Someone...I don't remember who, had a slogan after their name. It went something like this... "A friend will bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying...damn that was fun"...I have repeated that saying quite a few times since the first day I saw it on here. I'm sitting...
its actually like this
a friend will come bail you out of jail at 4 in the morning. A true friend will be sitting there next to you saying that was F!@#ing AWESOME!!!!.
thats the r rated version:D
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quote:Originally posted by Monopoly Money: wow big news indeed but some of this statement concerns me.
QBID, Frank Olsen, President, CEO and majority shareholder, has converted all his personal QBID holdings into preferred stock, which makes up 53 % of the total shares.
Since he converted his holdings into preferred shares, i do believe that means his holdings are not supceptible to a reverse split and ours are. *i know what he promised, but face it business is business and im pointing out what COULD be possible*
Secoundly what did he convert those 53% shares to? Meaning what is the value of 1 qbid preferred share. Only reason i ask is my other investment qant, 1 preferred share is worth 1,000,000 common shares. This kinda concerns me because preferred shares also have a 1 million to one voting right, which could amount to common share holdering voting meaning dick.
Thirdly did this 53% of his shares include shares that were part of hte 2% and 3% buyback or were those 2 buyback shares retired? i really forget on this one.
Lastely, lets just say there *WERE* 50 billion shares yesturday and since the preferred conversion there are now 23.5 billion shares *just making the math easy on myself* There are now, true enough less then half the shares that were out there, BUT nonetheless a whole lot of shares that still have to be bought and sold and a whole lot of profit that has to be made to move it. So yes, the 53% does mean alot but at the same token it has its risks as well which kinda bother me.
You know me just tring to look at the darker side of the picture, i am somewhat excited because this is huge progrss, but at the same token it now makes Franks shares "untouchable" in a mannor of speaking. And please dont quote me on the 50 bil its a number i pulled out of my ass to make math easier on me.
If anyone has any reasonable answers id love to hear them.. thanks
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Hmmmmmmm..........
What is a reasonable answer?? I have another question. The 1 billion retired = 5% of what? Perhaps...20 billion? Reducing it to 19 billion? Now reduced again by Frank's 53% preferred? Is a 3.58B reasonable/possible?
.... not a math major!
Ric, where are you???????
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9. One main reason that investor confidence isnt as high as it should be, is the simple fact of not clarifing PR's. Case in point, Buybacks... (i liked this answer almost best of all.-his words exactly)---"There have been 2 buybacks to date in past 6 months...1 for 3% and 2% he believed and the retirement of 1 billion shares." (this cleared it up to me, and he basically said that the 3% buyback was already completed.
10. i added this one after that last question--when will you clarify this about the buybacks?
i think that Frank is waiting for the audit to be completed to provide the full details of the buybacks. (also said) many Qbid shareholders read to far in the lines of the Q PR's.
11. How about updating the subscriber #s. Many investors wonder how many there are, and this is one more question that would fill in some answers.
- well, me and frank have talked about it, and we feel the best decision is to wait while the subs are still growing at a great pace. Sirius satellite didnt realease their subs for 1 year after startup, because some investors would be hoping for the moon....I
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I believe him too whiz. I still worry about this preferred share thing though. No one seems concered that this could be a defensive strategy for Frank in case of bankruptcy. Preferred stockholders are ALWAYS paid first.
With that said, I still don't think that's the case and I think we we know everything we need to by the end of this week. Good luck to each and everyone one of you.
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With over one billion shares traded, I wonder how many people heard of Q for the first time today?
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