quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: So ed, Bob Maheu, wealthy beyond belief from nine decades of life, is going to soil his respected reputation in order to get a monthly salary from a "scam"? (rumored that he is not even getting that) That's a stretch of the imagination, even for you.
I see that you are finally admitting that this is a "scam", now thats progress in moving right along in your grieving process "acceptance"
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One way or another, when this thing blows, its gonna make the Hindenberg disaster look like a spark....LOL. I cant argue anymore, it's just getting too silly to be believed. CYA all in July when the judge puts her boots on.
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Did you know that when Abe Lincoln was shot in the theatre it was nothing more than a robbery? Very few know this but Honest Abe a pocketful of the very first Casavant brand conflict-free diamonds ever mined.
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Ah sorry I thought that you were progressing, I now realize that you are still in denial and rationalization, but don't worry acceptance will come soon
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: Did you know that when Abe Lincoln was shot in the theatre it was nothing more than a robbery?Very few know this but Honest Abe a pocketful of the very first Casavant brand conflict-free diamonds ever mined.
Now that's funny
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Investigation, that's a fact, a government angency is investigating CMKX. Do I think the "sting theory", has any basis, absolutley not. Can I explain Maheu participation in this? Only that he didn't think CMKX was using him for his name. He denied that with an assumption, he didn't think that was the case. He did say positively though that he knew nothing regarding the operations of CMKX, and other telling absolutes. Sorry no NSS and no sting. You have to offer proof not conjenture for me to accept any of it.
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quote:Originally posted by will: Man, that's way past spinning. That's outright insanity. To believe, "the government sting", theory, you have to have something eating away at your brain.
So will, do you think that there is no government investigation into the securities countefeiting? Or do you think they are incapable or unwilling to investigate? Do you think they are "above" conducting a sting? Do you think they would not infiltrate a company to conduct intelligence operations? Which other stock do you think they would use? One with John Doe at the helm, or one with a Robert Maheu conducting operations? Would you conduct such an operation with a "one company" operation, or one with a web of companies, each untraceable for operations? Would you make all of the information available to the public, and hence available to your "enemies". Or are you just saying there is no NS and therefore no need for a government investigation?
Many have asked how CMKX could attract people with the qualifications of Roger Glenn, Bill Jarvis, or a Robert Maheu. Think about it.
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Many have asked how CMKX could attract people with the qualifications of Roger Glenn, Bill Jarvis, or a Robert Maheu. Think about it.
now bill jarvis knows what he is doing??? i guess it was on purpose when he said the goldax survey was reviewed & found 16 anomalies not the hundreds cmkx claimed. i guess he purposely named the survey & not the fact it wasn't the whole survey. i'm sure the SEC is deep into looking at how to stop NSS. there is too much press even if its not major media writing about it & giving proof. but there is no need of a sting. the SEC can get records of every company they care to from the DTC. the ppl doing the NS'ing are the mm's not the DTC. the sec could get all the proof needed & behind closed doors get it fixed without the publicity a sting would bring & thus fix it & not destroy the market.. its not an easy solution. there needs to be some degree of naked shares for the market to be liquid. there needs to be controls so that a group of ppl cant run a stock to a stupid pps & create something like the tech bubble burst when stocks were trading at 100 & 200 times a companies value. yet there has to be a limit & a period of time that NSS's have to be covered. will the SEC step to the plate & fix the problem...who knows but the 1 thing they wont do is use a company to sting the mm's with. there is no need of such a move.
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quote:Originally posted by ed19363: One way or another, when this thing blows, its gonna make the Hindenberg disaster look like a spark....LOL. I cant argue anymore, it's just getting too silly to be believed. CYA all in July when the judge puts her boots on.
Uh oh Wallace, "Little John" just bit the dust.
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quote:Originally posted by bill1352: Many have asked how CMKX could attract people with the qualifications of Roger Glenn, Bill Jarvis, or a Robert Maheu. Think about it.
now bill jarvis knows what he is doing??? i guess it was on purpose when he said the goldax survey was reviewed & found 16 anomalies not the hundreds cmkx claimed. i guess he purposely named the survey & not the fact it wasn't the whole survey. i'm sure the SEC is deep into looking at how to stop NSS. there is too much press even if its not major media writing about it & giving proof. but there is no need of a sting. the SEC can get records of every company they care to from the DTC. the ppl doing the NS'ing are the mm's not the DTC. the sec could get all the proof needed & behind closed doors get it fixed without the publicity a sting would bring & thus fix it & not destroy the market.. its not an easy solution. there needs to be some degree of naked shares for the market to be liquid. there needs to be controls so that a group of ppl cant run a stock to a stupid pps & create something like the tech bubble burst when stocks were trading at 100 & 200 times a companies value. yet there has to be a limit & a period of time that NSS's have to be covered. will the SEC step to the plate & fix the problem...who knows but the 1 thing they wont do is use a company to sting the mm's with. there is no need of such a move.
Of course it is easy to find the NS, but they are interested in finding the "source". Some days back I mentioned: "Think CARNIVORE".
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Speaking of Robin Hood, did you know that he robbed from the rich to give to the poor? While that stands in stark contrast to Sir Casavant one can see where he got the idea and simply turned it around. See, there are parallels that can be drawn throughout history that shows just how influential CMKX has been in the shaping of our current world and in the world to come. Pretty much everything past, present and future is, or will be, tied into this company in one way or another.
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: Did you know that when Abe Lincoln was shot in the theatre it was nothing more than a robbery? Very few know this but Honest Abe a pocketful of the very first Casavant brand conflict-free diamonds ever mined.
thats funny. Could you imagine if that were true what the value of those jewels would be?
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"Do you think they would not infiltrate a company to conduct intelligence operations?'
That's a real joke...."infiltrate a company" with no intelligence "to conduct intelligence operations"! LMAO With 'no-records-UC" at the helm, that would be quite simple, huh. Certainly, he's the epitome of intelligence....even according to his very own testimony and statements.
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"Uh oh Wallace, "Little John" just bit the dust."
Not to worry, legal, "Little John" has said that before and he stays anyway. Besides, I think he enjoys sparing with you even if the dam has burst and you have "water on the brain".
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This letter is addressed to the following respected people:
George W. Bush, President of the United States
William H. Donaldson, Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission
Richard Baker, Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Capital Markets, Insurance and Government Sponsored Enterprises.
Richard Shelby, Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee
Susan Collins, Chairman of Committee on Homeland Security
Senators Richard Durbin, Robert Bennett, Sheila Jackson Lee and all of our other Senators, Members of Congress, Members of the Press and All American Citizens
Dear America,
We have a problem in the United States of America that has corrupted our markets, ruined our small businesses, is destroying savings accounts, 401K’s and our American economy. This problem is so big, that it has been pushed away and swept under the rug in a hush hush sort of manner because the effects can be so devastating, it could cause our markets to crash.
This problem that we speak of, is the counterfeiting of securities commonly known as Naked Short Selling. This problem CANNOT be confused with legal shorting of stocks, as they have absolutely NOTHING in common.
We are talking about the actual counterfeiting of US securities that are sold to American citizens and people from around the world as genuine investments. As we all know, the counterfeiting of anything of monetary value is not only illegal, but it can be a highly abused form of Financial Terrorism that can and has already destroyed more than our markets. We don’t want a world wide scandal.
Please do not let other politicians that either do not understand this issue, or for some unknown reason, want this issue confused so that it is not given any credence, mislead you about the serious nature of this problem. It is not a fictitious problem, although it has been used as an excuse for other criminal activities in the past. The counterfeiting of securities is very real and is happening EVERY SINGLE DAY in our markets.
You may ask how this happens under the nose of our guard dogs that are supposed to protect investors and the integrity of our markets, those guard dogs being the Security and Exchange Commission. Why are they not barking and taking severe action against the perpetuators of this crime? We do not have the answer to this question. But, all of you can demand those answers and demand that action begins immediately! We certainly want to help them do their job.
"We the People" of the United States of America are hereby formally requesting….. no, we are demanding that our government take action! If you need to know what this crime is and how it happens, we will educate you. If you need the help of "We the People", we will help you. We want action on this matter and we want it now!
It has been dragged out and along for a ride long enough. The SEC had adopted Regulation SHO this year and grandfathered in all the past crimes. Now, the SEC has also granted immunity to the DTCC for any involvement from the past! Why would they do this if there is nothing to worry about and if the crime of naked short selling didn’t exist?
America is being hurt very deeply by this crime and who knows where the money that is pilfered by selling a counterfeit security is going. Is it going into the hands of terrorists? Is this a Homeland Security, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Secret Service and Central Intelligence Agency issue as well? Sure it is. If the SEC is not taking corrective actions to protect American investors and the very integrity of our markets…. Then they also need to be investigated and that makes it an issue for everyone!
Regulation SHO was adopted for this crime, but it is not being enforced and it is NOT WORKING! By the very adoption of the regulation alone, it proves the existence of the problem. Senator Bennett was the brave Senator that answered America’s call for action…. Now back him up and get this crime exterminated so that America can have at least a chance of fairness put back into our markets.
Senator Shelby has promised, by letter to an American citizen, to look in on a company by the name of CMKM Diamonds. The shareholders of this company have united together to prove that this crime has devastated their investment and they will have the proof for you shortly… proof that cannot be disputed! This company has nearly 60,000 shareholders that are screaming for action in this matter. This is just one example…. There will be many more to take the same actions.
Stand up America…. Take your country back from the criminals and terrorists!
Sincerely and Respectfully,
"We the People" who make up our One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all!
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"to look in on a company by the name of CMKM Diamonds. The shareholders of this company have united together to prove that this crime has devastated their investment and they will have the proof for you shortly… proof that cannot be disputed!"
Where's the proof? Y'all are going to look mighty foolish calling on these Senators to look into a situation that does not exist. I would first have to see the PROOF before I sent this letter. To say we will have proof shortly, isn't enough.
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posted on 24-5-2005 at 02:59 PM
And so I did. Here comes those "red flags" again.
Dear Ms. Busse, I took your advice and called 1st Global and spoke to Jeff there. He did not hesitate to say that you were lying, and that there was no "chill" on Casavant International Mining imposed by the DTCC. I will be filing a complaint with the SEC today to investigate this matter, since it is apparent that someone is lying to shareholders in this matter.
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ya know, i've signed a few letters to congress, i've sent emails to my congresspeople but i refuse to sign anything about naked shorting if cmkx is involved. this is a serious problem that effects huge numbers of ppl & companies but it needs to be addressed with serious companies. having a dilution machine like cmkx thrown in only hurts the efforts of real companies working to address this problem. remember the reaction of the judge when she heard billions? the second any congressman hears billions he will turn & walk. just because the cult lawyer answered with trillions will make no differance. no congressman will put their name into the ring over a company that has 703 billion in the o/s. the conversation will stop there. they are not cult members thus they see reality. they have the abilty to think period unlike the cmkx cult. all the cult is accomplishing is to hurt the work & effort of all the honest hardworking companies & its a damn shame.
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And so I did. Here comes those "red flags" again.
Dear Ms. Busse, I took your advice and called 1st Global and spoke to Jeff there. He did not hesitate to say that you were lying, and that there was no "chill" on Casavant International Mining imposed by the DTCC. I will be filing a complaint with the SEC today to investigate this matter, since it is apparent that someone is lying to shareholders in this matter. ======================================
ya the cult is lying period.
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posted on 24-5-2005 at 05:02 PM
It is all a "stall" tactic in my opinion. Are they out of certs? Please just tell me what you have done with my property. When was the DTCC authorized to "chill" my shares? They don't belong to them, they belong to me.
Here is what I posted on the board three weeks ago in reference to this "chill" matter:
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:05:50 -0500 (CDT) From: "Ameritrade Client Services" Add to Address Book To: XXXXXXXXXXXXX Subject: CMKM DIAMONDS INC CASAVANT INTL MINING (KMM26667952I20725L0KM)
Dear XXXXXXX XXXXXXXX:
This is regarding Angela Chisolm's response for your phone conversation.
Thank you for the opportunity to assist you today. This email is in response to your request for verification of our phone conversation. We are anticipating delivery of our bulk certificate for CMKM Diamonds Casavant International Mining within the next week. Provided we receive our certificat within that time frame, we would expect that it would take approximately 4-6 weeks for your certificate request to be processed. As we discussed, the delay in getting this certificate issued to you was caused by a "chill" at the Depository Trust Company. If you have further questions, please reply to this message or contact us at 800-669-3900. We appreciate your business. Thank you for choosing Ameritrade.
Sincerely,
Angela Chisolm
If you have further concerns or inquiries, please e-mail us from our secure Web site's "Contact Us" link located in the "Help Center" or at the bottom of each secure page. For security reasons, we do not answer account specific questions that originate from a source other than the secure Web site.
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posted on 24-5-2005 at 05:09 PM
Well that was the quickest reponse I have ever had from Ameritrade. Now they are trying to say that they are attempting to fix the problem. LOL, what have they been doing for three weeks?
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 15:37:29 -0500 (CDT) From: "APEX Client Services" View Contact Details To: XXXXXX XXXXXXX Subject: Re: Reorganization and Dividends: Inquiry (KMM27032407I20725L0KM)
Dear XXXXX XXXXXXX:
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to assist you today.
After researching this with Ameritrade Clearing, we have requested to have a bulk certificate sent for the Casavant International Mining restricted shares. The bulk certificate should have been mailed out sometime last week, if not it this week, and sent to Ameritrade. Once we receive the bulk certificate, we can then mail your request to the transfer agent, First Global, and have your shares issued to you.
If you have further concerns or inquiries, please reply to this message.
Sincerely,
Joy Busse Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, Ameritrade Division of Ameritrade, Inc.
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For $40,000 a month, I would work for CMKX. For $40,000 a month, I might even pump this scam. It would be hard but if I was keep in the dark like Maheu, hear no evil see no evil speak no evil. It sounds like its easy for Mahue to stomach this scam. He stated in court he knew nothing about the operations of CMKX.
He pays auditors 100's of thousands of dollars and refuses to give them the documents they need to do the job. Pays Maheu $40 thousand a month and he knows nothing. He gives RG $250 thousand dollars and gets a one page report. What a job to work there. Money for nothing.
quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: So ed, Bob Maheu, wealthy beyond belief from nine decades of life, is going to soil his respected reputation in order to get a monthly salary from a "scam"? (rumored that he is not even getting that) That's a stretch of the imagination, even for you.
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For $40,000 per month, I understand CMKX is behind in payment at least two months. That makes it $20,000 per month. The longer they do not pay Maheu, the lower it gets. That seems to be the way Urban Casavant operates. Same thing with the stock. The more he sells out of authorized, the lower the stock pps.
PS: " He stated in court he knew nothing about the operations of CMKX."
The obvious question then is, "What is he doing there for whatever amount of money?" As the Judge asked, "There for your name only?"
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Hey, I just commented on why he started there. Not why he will leave soon if a check isn't cut. And I think the Judge did realize why he was there, why else did she ask. If I was the Judge and told I was paid $40 thousand a month and knew nothing , I would ask the same thing.
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For $40,000 per month, I understand CMKX is behind in payment at least two months. That makes it $20,000 per month. The longer they do not pay Maheu, the lower it gets. That seems to be the way Urban Casavant operates. Same thing with the stock. The more he sells out of authorized, the lower the stock pps.
PS: " He stated in court he knew nothing about the operations of CMKX."
The obvious question then is, "What is he doing there for whatever amount of money?" As the Judge asked, "There for your name only?"
Drawing out whatever you need to back up your wild allegations, Wallace? Why would he need to know about exploration operations and acquisitions and partnerships. That is the co-director's job and Urban wasn't falling for the trap. Maheu is there for his legal, political, and tactical experience. Why would he need to know the name of the guy running the drill? Or how many employees there are? The more you tout your corporate "understanding", the more suspicious your claims of "importance" on Wall Street become.
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