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Give us the numbers and prove me wrong. Thats all it takes. Whats the share structure? And if you don't know and still own a 704 billion o/s company then well whatever. No filing no proof of anything. How convenient for UC.

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Too late, they will be revoked next week. No time for your application to be approved. Try appling for PRRM. Thats the next penny the SEC will shut down in my opinion. lol Hey Wallace when does me and bill get paid anyway.


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posted May 06, 2005 16:50
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How much do you make per post? I am considering a job change.

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Originally posted by big d:
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How much do you make per post? I am considering a job change.
Different pay scales based on experience. I'm at .06 per post, don't know about Ric and the others.
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Under SHO it is a criminal violation to knowingly furnish false or misleading information in a filing. I doubt that a "discrepancy" would be noticeable or even pursued by the SEC. But a trillion shares is a lot more than a discrepancy; and CMKX is not just any other company.

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seriously legel have you ever read a 10-q? there are sections upon sections of crap just to cover any legel bases. cmkx could have filed at any time & just added a section. give a honest account of the shares & share structure. do 1 thing in an honest & straight-forward manor. you are right cmkx isnt just any company, its the biggest pump & dump in the history of the stock market. the OG is doing 1 thing, they are proving that being over 300 shareholders is something that should have been caught a long time ago. really makes ya wonder what roger glen was doing on the company dime.

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ya wallace...what ric said...lol that is if i get to be promoted back to paid basher. i could use a second job.

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quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
Shhhhhhh............listen...........can you hear it?

Yea I can hear it Urban chitting in his pants as he waits for the hearing that will CLOSE HIM DOWN, also Urban looking in the mirror and seeing what he will look like in STRIPES, oh yea Legal I sure can hear it [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Doctoall:
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Originally posted by legaleagle:
Shhhhhhh............listen...........can you hear it?

Yea I can hear it Urban chitting in his pants as he waits for the hearing that will CLOSE HIM DOWN, also Urban looking in the mirror and seeing what he will look like in STRIPES, oh yea Legal I sure can hear it [Big Grin]
LOL! And legal eagle can be the parrot sitting on UC's shoulder.

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What I find most interesting is how carefully legal and other cult members avoid answering so many "to the point questions" by diversion, distortion or just plain ignoring them. There are just so many out there where the answers are obvious, but cult members keep refusing to acknowledge their existence.

It makes one wonder how they can begin to live a normal life....the blind leading the blind. And, of course, there are always those around to sell them the worthless paper at any price or the fake canes for $25.

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WE WERE KINDA HOLDIN' THAT FOR THE JUDGE BILL. YOU UNDERSTAND.
BUT IF YOU HAVE TO WAIT, GET YOUR FINGER ON THE BUY BUTTON TUESDAY MORNING


GLASS I HAVE INFORMATION THAT THE NS ISSUE WILL BE HANDLED BY THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, NOT THE SHAREHOLDERS.

Okay, legal, now you've done it.
You have information that nobody else has.
So riddle me this, legalman....
Who are you that you have inside info?
Who is "WE"
Are you affiliated with CMKX company?
Are you EMPLOYED by CMKX, and if so, in what capacity?
How about a straight answer for a change!

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Ok ed:

I have lots of information that many do not have because I dig for it.

I am a researcher, not an insider.

"WE" are the shareholders who support our company through the OG.

I only own shares in CMKX

No employment. Wish I did.

Straight as it gets.

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Originally posted by legaleagle:
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Under SHO it is a criminal violation to knowingly furnish false or misleading information in a filing. I doubt that a "discrepancy" would be noticeable or even pursued by the SEC. But a trillion shares is a lot more than a discrepancy; and CMKX is not just any other company.
That's not an answer. It's not a violation to file stating the o/s and float and make no mention of a naked short whatsoever. They're not required to file that information. As far as CMKX not being just another company, that's certainly true, as a matter of fact, they're not a company at all, but that aside, the same rules apply to them as all others.
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Ed asked legaleagle this:

"How about a straight answer for a change!"

Ed, all that kind of question does is give legal the opportunity to pass out more propaganda, speculation and bullschit. What did you expect?

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now just 1 second upside, you know that first grade math doesn't apply to cmkx so why should the rules other companies have to follow apply? i mean when the SEC, DTC, debeers, shore gold, every mm's out there, all hedge funds, the US goverment, the canadian goverment, the mickey mouse club & a few i haven't mentioned or had drug induced flashbacks about are all out to cause cmkx to fail you have to go by differant rules or they will jump at the chance. why if cmkx filed without including the n/s as other companies do cmkx would be shut down in a heartbeat for lying on a legel document. no wait that doesnt work, they are getting shut down for not filing.

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Even the Mickey Mouse club is out to get them? Man, they're in trouble now. Those little bas_tards are ruthless!
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Street Shares: 261,645,133,244 Cert Shares: 25,885,443,110
Total Shares: 287,530,576,354 Signed Agreements: 4575

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The average is dropping fast Legal!
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I just can't help to see that they've been "boxed in",how many times now?Hey looks like to me they've been boxed,put in another box,then stamped with a pair of dice rolled out "boxcar",by "boxcar Willy".I think it's about time there's a stand taken against naked short selling.I see CMKX is #1 on pinks request leaders.Looks like alot of people are waiting to see how this goes.And I bet there's alot of these same people that have had their other stocks on SHO list at one time or another.I wasn't going to get in OG, untill they made it free to email in your sharecount(ect.).So since they did, I'm cutting a check.$25 doesn't even hardly give me a 1/2 tank of gas, and I hire a lawyer for that,kind of funny I think.
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and I hire a lawyer for that,kind of funny I think.

wait till they ask you to support them in the "class action" suit.... LOL

i would like to see NSing stopped....

i'm just jaded i guess....

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quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
The average is dropping fast Legal!

REPOST FROM THIS MORNING:

The shareholders with the largest portfolios were no doubt the first to join and protect their large investments. That made for larger averages at the outset. Now the "little guys" are coming in and the averages are coming down to where they should be. Poll after poll conducted on the boards had been showing an average ranging from 10-20 million per shareholder.

He is now needing proof because the volume has risen to what they need to "prove" the naked short. And that is exactly what the judge will ask for....PROOF

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quote:
Poll after poll conducted on the boards had been showing an average ranging from 10-20 million per shareholder.
Got any links?
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Up,those were polls taken at various message boards. No link.
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CHRISTIAN TRADERS / FRIZZELL INTERVIEW LINK
http://cfrn.net/interviews/billfrizzell.mp3

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An EXCELLENT post by Zen IMO! ..........


http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=6267063

VERY IMPORTANT

IF we have the evidence to back a NSS and IF the judge proves objective in hearing our offer of proof on the NSS and IF she deems it relevant and IF all this comes out in a public hearing, we will indeed be writing history. IMO never has a pink sheet made it this far in possibly exposing the NSS issue for all to see. The bottom line imo is that this "game" that has been rigged for so long to rob from the individual will eventually reach the tipping point.

I, for one, am proud to be a part of this movement. We, the small people, have a legitimate chance imo to expose the greatest financial scandal in the history of the markets. This could never happened prior to the internet. This could never have happened if many small companies before hadn't fallen prey imo to the NSS and at least shined a light on the issue for all to follow. I do not know if we will win. Certainly the odds are still heavily stacked against us given the long history of failure against these enemies and the secretive, protective veil that the sec, dtc and market systems seem to so effectively perpetuate.

And yet here we are. In a public forum. With evidence that we know exists ... and much evidence that we have no idea about. What will our auditor say? What will Maheu say? What are Urban's holdings? As much as the naysayers like to beat everyone up about what a scam this is, there is MUCH information that they do NOT have. Here is just one statement that they can NOT disprove as of yet and COULD be made at the hearing:

Neil Levine: Your Honor, as cmkx's auditor, I cannot sign off on their financials when proof has been presented to me that more shares are being held than exist. It would not only violate Sarbanes Oxley, but the fundamental basics of accounting for me to knowingly approve of a false figure when share are being held by shareholders that have never been accounted for. In fact no honest or reasonable CPA could sign off on such financials without risking criminal liability. Perhaps the SEC can recommend a CPA to cmkx that is willing to risk such criminal sanctions but my ethical obligations and in fact, the law, forbid me to do so.

This is just one entrypoint. But there may be many others. We just don't know. What I DO feel I know though is that this is an awful lot of money being spent to defend the company when, if it was all just a scam, Urban had a lot less costly (and in fact far more effective) ways to close this saga out. I also have to ask why the sec has taken 11 months on this, halted us, investigated us, moved for a proceeding and it's all only over a filing that we did that was voluntary???? Where's the proof that Urban has dumped hundreds of billions of shares? Seems pretty basic to me. If the SEC had proof of that, wouldn't cmkx have been shut down a lot longer than this and likely to have never reopened? Was that really all the SEC had?

Anyway, I believe this is history in the making. Factors that no hedge fund could EVER have anticipated have arisen to create the perfect storm imo. Most junior mining companies are complete BS. Most never develop a strong or coordinated shareholder base. Most never have any actual REAL assets. Most never get legitimate legal counsel. Most management will eventually just give up and move on to new companies. Most shareholders eventually give up.

But IF in fact Urban didn't truly screw the pooch with complete and utter financial recklessness. And IF in fact a NSS can comfortably be established. And IF in fact Judge Murray is open-minded enough to hear the evidence and objective enough to be shocked by it. Well then, we will carve out a new order in the markets.

For years, Big Tobacco ruled the courts and hundreds of lawsuits, one after another, were soundly defeated despite the knowing, intentional death spread and covered up by the tobacco executives. (remember The Insider?) But plaintiffs attorneys learned. And persevered. And eventually a chink in the armor materialized. And suddenly, like a house of cards, one case after another was settled by Big Tobacco resulting in amounts numbering in the hundreds of billions of dollars. (oh yeah, by the way O'Quinn was one of the lead attorneys that broke the back of Big Tobacco - O'Quinn of the same O'Quinn pursuing the hedge funds, dtc and market makers for the NSS scandal).

We are on the edge imo of a new order in the markets if we can truly snap this Chief Judge out of the trance that the SEC and DTC have so conveniently put the markets under regarding delivery failure. A public forum. A massive, coordinated effort. And hopefully, with a little luck, a lot of facts that nobody knows about except cmkx that will bolster our case beyond contention.

To all the "foot soldiers" that have put this plan into action, I am left speechless. Even if we don't win, I am overwhelmed at the passion that people have approached this. It took a Rosa Parks to make a bold statement years ago. It is not without CRISIS that there is ever RESOLUTION. We have all put our hard earned money at risk and by NOT SELLING OUT have taken a stand to achieve not just personal freedom but a much greater liberation. I truly could NEVER have imagined this is where everything would lead just 11 months ago. And yet here we are. Win or lose, this truly is a MOVEMENT. And it will NOT end here no matter WHAT the resolution. But in all honesty, I believe it WILL be exposed here. And if so, this (relatively speaking) small group of shareholders will have achieved one of the most fascinating victories in the history of the financial markets imo. I know I've been all over the map with my opinions and thoughts but I've only spoken from my heart and given my truthful opinion. But no matter where my thoughts may HAVE been, today they are humbled. Humbled by a group of dedicated, passionate people that have stepped forward in their beliefs with astounding steadfast resolution. I bow to every one of you still holding your shares. And I pray that all this courage is rewarded a thousandfold.

Your fellow cmkx shareholder for life,
zeninvestor32

Z

As always, these are my personal opinions.

Hopefully nobody in here is investing anything but "fun" money that they can afford to gamble with.

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Street Shares: 261,956,698,837 Cert Shares: 25,981,443,110
Total Shares: 287,938,141,947 Signed Agreements: 4582

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catching up to Ronald i see... [Big Grin]

i see UC too...
but who's the pretty lady?

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quote:
Originally posted by ed19363:
WE WERE KINDA HOLDIN' THAT FOR THE JUDGE BILL. YOU UNDERSTAND.
BUT IF YOU HAVE TO WAIT, GET YOUR FINGER ON THE BUY BUTTON TUESDAY MORNING


GLASS I HAVE INFORMATION THAT THE NS ISSUE WILL BE HANDLED BY THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, NOT THE SHAREHOLDERS.

Okay, legal, now you've done it.
You have information that nobody else has.
So riddle me this, legalman....
Who are you that you have inside info?
Who is "WE"
Are you affiliated with CMKX company?
Are you EMPLOYED by CMKX, and if so, in what capacity?
How about a straight answer for a change!

I have always said that Legal is "Andrew", he just post way to much, as though he is trying to save his job or better still Urban. If he is not Andrew he is an insider.

He will make a great cellmate for Urban [Big Grin]

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I SEE UC TOO. BUT WHO'S THE PRETTY LADY?  -
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quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
Street Shares: 261,956,698,837 Cert Shares: 25,981,443,110
Total Shares: 287,938,141,947 Signed Agreements: 4582

Bill Frizzell= Mickey Mouse Club Membership

4582 x $25.00 = $114,550.00 someone is getting richer by the day, Legal since you are promoting this signing up, how much of a kick back are you getting??

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legal reposted a post by Zen (a known pumper), and I don't feel much like commenting on all of Zen's statements, but here are a few:

Z: IF the judge proves objective in hearing our offer of proof on the NSS....
Z: And IF in fact Judge Murray is open-minded enough to hear the evidence and objective enough to be shocked by it.

ANS: Get ready to see them blame the Judge now! Here come da Judge! Here come da Judge!

Z: I cannot sign off on their financials when proof has been presented to me that more shares are being held than exist.

ANS: First, what proof? Second, if they don't exist, then, they don't exist!!! Rather simple, huh?

Z: Most junior mining companies are complete BS. Most never develop a strong or coordinated shareholder base. Most never have any actual REAL assets. Most never get legitimate legal counsel. Most management will eventually just give up and move on to new companies. Most shareholders eventually give up.

ANS: Welcome to the world of CMKX...all BS fr Mt St Helens and a race track, cult shareholder base, unproven assets (if any -except for 2 specks), Roger Glenn and unkept promises, admitted incompetent management and shareholders WILL "eventually give up".

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quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
I SEE UC TOO. BUT WHO'S THE PRETTY LADY?  -

She is the lady who is going to put Urban behind bars [Big Grin]

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
I SEE UC TOO. BUT WHO'S THE PRETTY LADY?  -

She is the lady who is going to put Urban behind bars [Big Grin]
Legal you should place Urban's face on a Prep H box it would be more appropriate.

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i bet the judge says something like this:

anybody crazy enough to buy shares in company with a known AS of 800 BILLION deserves to lose their "investment"...

and the investors that paid .0001$ KNEW what they were buying...that's why it was so cheap....

there are quite few people that bought because of certain statements (like you won't believe what's sitting on my desk) made by Melvin and a few BB posters that were just plain not very truthful,
those people truly have been ripped off....

[ May 07, 2005, 01:05: Message edited by: glassman ]

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I still say that the company can prove its honesty by stating share structure and end this discontent. But it won't and yet these people want to trust this company that does nothing but hide information from its shareholders. I have to agree, some people are looking pretty fishy. Either paid or on the payroll.

Even with all that crap Frizzle spilled he didn't even act like the company told him what the share structure is and if they did he was gagged like the TA from stating it.

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The moment of truth approaches....
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FRIZZELL LATE NIGHT POST.


FRIZZELL LAW FIRM
305 S. Broadway, Suite 302
Tyler, Texas 75702
(903)595-1921
Fax (903)595-4383
E-Mail jmartin@cmkxownersgroup.com

Dear Group Members, May 7, 2005

A very exciting week is coming to a close. I want to thank each of you from the very bottom of my heart for the support you are providing to this group. Each and every CMKX shareholder and the company will benefit from your efforts.

You would be proud to meet the crew John Martin has assembled to handle the tasks this week-end. We have the capabilities to receive, digitize, sort and preserve the most important document you have in your possession - a broker’s confirmation of your owned CMKX stock.

We have scheduled our helpers so that my office is staffed 24/7 until John and I leave for LA Sunday evening.

For a number of reasons, I will not disclose the total number of shares we have verified until I am allowed to do so in the hearing on Tuesday. I am a bit anxious as we conclude this week. We had some glitches earlier in the week as we built the network to assemble this data. Precious days passed as we planned an efficient way to gather the necessary information. I am painfully aware we have only two full days before we leave for Los Angeles to verify this information. Most of you who are reading this message have already sent in your brokerage statements. For that I thank you. Those that have not, please take the time to fax your account summary to 903-595-4249.

We had some people with professed experience in guesstimating numbers based on our groups’ sampled data tell us our owned shares will be an astounding number greatly exceeding the company’s declared outstanding stock. If the shareholders, for whatever reason, do not get this message or decline to send their information to us, we have missed a valuable opportunity to prove to others the abuse this stock has endured.

There are many ways to enter a room. You can tap lightly and watch the door swing slowly into the room. You can give it a good shove and watch it bang against the wall when it stops. Or you can kick the door completely off its hinges and watch the frightened look of those in the room. I am hopeful we can get the word out and let us "kick the door in" when we reveal the outstanding shares we can document.

Please contact every person you know that owns CMKX stock and encourage them to take a moment during this Mother’s Day Weekend and get us their summaries. I hope to get you a report later today (Saturday) on our efforts.

Onward.

Bill


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U Do NOT Have To Be A Member of OG To Send Numbers
http://cmkxdiamond.********s32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1115366832

John Martin URGENT PRESS RELEASE! Please Act Now
http://cmkxdiamond.********s32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1115341237

Frizzel info FAQ/How do Pull-down My Broker Account Info And Send To Frizzell/Borker step-by-step
http://cmkxdiamond.********s32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1115395323

CRITICAL ALERT FROM J. MARTIN RE. CUSP #
http://cmkxdiamond.********s32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1115404995

Frizzell/OG Fax, Phone, E-mail Overloaded~Patience
http://cmkxdiamond.********s32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1115412313

FRIZZELL on RADIO @ 10:45AM PT TODAY & MESSAGE
http://cmkxdiamond.********s32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1115344122

From John Martin 9:15am (Texas time) IMPORTANT
http://cmkxdiamond.********s32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1115389288

Frizzell Recent Request.. it comes down to this
http://cmkxdiamond.********s32.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1115346570


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