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And of course I don't want bill to feel left out so I brought one of his "rebel" conspiracy posts back from his youth of 10 months ago:
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Member Rated: posted June 15, 2004 21:05 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- just a thought but in a number of posts it was infered the UC might want to go private... by doing the audit he can get all of us a very nice chunk of change (maybe not millions but...) from the MM's behinds. now if you wanted to go private would you want anyone to find the mother load? the truth is nobody really know what or how much is in the ground CMKX has rights too. it takes a long time to find & then mine anything in the ground. over night millionaires only happen in the lottery. my only concern is DEbeers they have been at the diamond game longer then anyone. they think they own every diamond on this earth and they have the money & knowledge to make that almost true. a yr or 2 from now maybe some of us will be millionaires from CMKX or maybe we will just be part of the b**t kicking of a few M&M's either way the ride might just be fun.
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Rate Member posted June 20, 2004 22:02 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wallace, I don't know how you'd know anything about how valuable some has or has not been, since last month you didn't even know what an MM was, who NITE & JEFF were, or how an L2 worked. But suddenly, you're an expert on who is the most valuable and trusted on here? There are many people on here that are willing to help others and offer sound advice; not just one person. And the person to whom you refer left many people hanging with a shady, and still, unexplained post. I have nothing personally against him, but I believe that he did everyone a disservice. Therefore, I do not trust him. I can't help but wonder how you know so much about him. Either you're new and gullable to believe everything you hear about someone, or you're pretending to be new and you accidentally tipped your hand
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: I'm going with demand. A billion is a light trading day, people are hesitant to buy and the few that do are paying fair value, in my opinion.
Yeah, the MMs think it is fair value. How many retail traders can buy it with the brokerages shutting them down.
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Yep, just as I thought, all my fellow bashers were at one time on the other side. It took the unwavering conviction of good old Upside to show them the light. No need for thanks boys, just doing my job!
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: originally posted by legaleagle:
quote:Yeah, the MMs think it is fair value. How many retail traders can buy it with the brokerages shutting them down.
I know you can't buy through Ameritrade. Is there a list anywhere of who is and who's not allowing buys?
I've been trying to compile one Up, but they keep changing their policies almost daily. Etrade has been on both sides of this policy question at least twice. Since brokerage policy seems to be being determined by the MMs it will probably continue to fluctuate as the need arises.
I think that it is so funny that Ameritrade is claiming to be enforcing this policy to protect shareholders, yet allow open buying on MLON.
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At the risk of irritating some, here is a little DD on CIM, Casavant International Mining Inc., from the Nev SOS. CIM shares Authorized, set at 500 billion and par value of $500,000,000.00 Hmmm that's mighty close to the CMKX OS, isn't it. Hang onto those divy shares folks.
Resident Agent Change Document Number: 20050115425-85 # of Pages: 1 File Date: 04/08/2005 Effective Date: (No Notes for this action)
Action Type: Amendment Document Number: C1291-2003-006 # of Pages: 1 File Date: 10/20/2004 Effective Date: CAPITAL STOCK WAS 25,000,000 SHARES @ .001= $25,000 MDC CERTIFICATE OF AMENDMENT FILED AMENDING THE AUTHORIZED SHARES & THE ACTUAL STOCK IS: 500,000,000,000 SHARES @ .001= $500,000,000. 1 PG. ($35,000) MDC
Action Type: Amended List Document Number: C1291-2003-003 # of Pages: 1 File Date: 07/23/2004 Effective Date: (No Notes for this action)
Action Type: Resident Agent Change Document Number: C1291-2003-005 # of Pages: 1 File Date: 04/22/2004 Effective Date: NEVADA CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS, INC. P O BOX 27740 LAS VEGAS NV 89126 KAB
Action Type: Annual List Document Number: C1291-2003-002 # of Pages: 1 File Date: 04/21/2004 Effective Date: List of Officers for 2004 to 2005
Action Type: Resident Agent Resignation Document Number: C1291-2003-004 # of Pages: 1 File Date: 02/20/2004 Effective Date: NEVADA CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS, INC. P O BOX 27740 LAS VEGAS NV 89126 RAA
Action Type: Articles of Incorporation Document Number: C1291-2003-001 # of Pages: 5 File Date: 01/21/2003 Effective Date: (No Notes for this action)
quote:The POS was running, I was intoxicated with greed. LOL Wish I knew then what I know now.
Well, all I can say is that when the next highly suspect stock comes along and you want to know now what you will know then, remember one word. Upside.
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legel as most everyone that has been in this thread for about 1 yr knows at 1 time i had hope. it ended the day i called the nevada state board & got the news first hand the o/s was raised from 500 billion to 800 billion. there is only 1 reason to do that, dilution. my hopes had already started to dwindle when joel got the news from the t/a that the o/s was 400 billion because i knew if that was true it was over. when the divy split numbers came out it was over. first, no company can support a 779 billion o/s. second, no mm is going to get caught short with a 779 billion o/s. all hopes that 1 day cmkx might bring me a great payday were flushed. i did hold till i got the divys just in case that 1 day they might have value. when ameritrade told me how the supposed 2 divys for gemm worked & pointed out the small print in the OTC & Penny divy reports i sold. any company that would play word games to scam its investers out of a divy will never do them right period.
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quote:my hopes had already started to dwindle when joel got the news from the t/a that the o/s was 400 billion because i knew if that was true it was over.
Everyone felt the same way then, believer or not. Now however, if word comes out that the FLOAT is 400 billion, people will be partying in the street. Things really do change.
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that i think ends all discusion on if aztm & cmkx are mixed up together. if you add the way pr's are done as in including real info like claim numbers & posibble finds on those claims you would have to come to the "reasonable opinion" that there is no way AZTM would want anything to do with CMKX
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Geeessssuuuussss!!! Legal has flipped out! Gone over the edge! He wasted all that time going back to dig up any "negative" information he could find. Very impressive, legal! That your idea of DD as opposed to stupidity?
I won't go back, but do remember when you did not know the difference between various dividend dates....x-date, record date, effective date, pay date. I also remember you stating that "pro-forma" means 1 to 1. Guess you overlooked your own posts, huh? You certainly were being selective with all those posts. Again, diversion and distortion!! Is that how you got people to confess when you were a cop? Man, you must have arrested some pretty stupid ones.
How about, you legal (aka noahltl), providing information in enough detail to allow someone to find out your real name is JB (Would you like me to spell it out?) How about your intelligent precinct buddies adding to the information you gave that poster?
How about my unconditional one time offer to bury the hatchet and your conditional response (which hedged and was, in effect, a refusal).
I see YOUR so-called Christian ethic has come to the forefront of your mind. GLTY
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Bill, just for you, I went and got noah's early DD report on AZTM. This preceded their filings showing Nevada Minerals and Ed Dhonau's ownership.
AZTM - CMKX ARE WE TIED AT THE HIP
After my interview with Scott Tobia of AZTM, I went away with nearly as many questions about AZTM as I started the session with. He was a nice guy, seemed dedicated to his business and eager to get on with it. He denied having anything to do with CMKX, CMKX.com, Urban Casavant, and Ed Dhonau. And he reufsed to comment on the Carolyn Pipe. I just wasn't sastisfied that I had the whole picture, so I kept on with my DD.
Here is what I have been able to compile so far on the links and connections with our CMKX.
I BELIEVE THAT SCOTT TOBIA OF AZTM IS MORE CLOSELY LINKED WITH CMKX THAN HE WAS WILLING TO ADMIT. HE HAS BEEN LINKED TO THE CMKX.COM WEBSITE THAT WAS OFFERED FOR SALE BACK IN THE SPRING. HE IS CLEARLY LISTED AS THE OWNER ON THE DOMAIN REGISTRATION.
THE AZTM CORPORATE WEBSITE WAS DESIGNED BY BLACK SHEEP DESIGN GROUP WHICH IS OWNED BY JASON E DHONAU, ED DHONAU'S SON, WHO ALSO RECENTLY TOOK OVER AS WEBDESIGNER FOR THE CMKX OFFICIAL SITE.
AND THE RESIDENT AGENT IN VEGAS, FOR AZTM IS STEVENSON MANAGEMENT GROUP, INC. THIS RA LISTS THE SAME ADDRESS THAT AZTM USED AS IT'S PRINCIPAL OFFICE IN A RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT BUILDING IN VEGAS.
STEVENSON MANAGEMENT GROUP, INC. IS OWNED BY SHAWN F HACKMAN, WHO HOLDS VARIOUS BUSINESSES IN NV WITH JOHN E. (ED) DHONAU, PRESIDENT OF NEVADA MINERALS. FOR A DESCRIPTION OF THE INTRICACIES INVOLVING ED DHONAU WITH CMKX http://www.stockpatrol.com/article/key/u_cmkm4
AND FINALLY TOPOGIGIO5's POST THIS WEEK ABOUT AZTM HAVING CONTROL OF THE CAROLYN PIPE.
******************************************************** DD AND RESEARCH
HOW DID ALL OF THIS START? AND WHY ARE WE WATCHING AZTM
In this post, topogigio5 stated that he had found the Carolyn Pipe and that AZTM had it now.
"ATTN EVERYONE! I have located the Carolyn pipe...It now belongs to a company called Aztec mining(AZTM)...from what I hear it will start trading tomorrow morning...I also hear that AZTM has other valuable claims in Canada and the U.S....the word on the street is that it will open @ .05 to .10 cents and hit the dollars very quickly...I plan on jumping into AZTM with both feet...what you choose to do with this information is soley up to you...and if you see me at the CMKX hospitality tent this year you owe me a beer."
This post launched me on my DD quest concerning the company, since the "Carolyn" and it's disposition has been so integral to our investment.
"Aztec Mining Corporation is a company that is actively involved in the exploration and mining of precious metals. AZTM currently has a property in the Bowser Creek area of Alaska that in tests by the US Government have shown substantial surface metals."
Info contained at that site was about all that was known of this company before.
The sites listed at the website, WIN 64 and WIN 65 were sold in April 2004, apparently to AZTM:
ON FEBRUARY 7, AT 12:30 E.T. I SPOKE PERSONALLY TO BARRY MURRAY, THE FORMER OWNER OF THE BOWSER CREEK CLAIMS WHO STATED THAT IT WAS PART OF THE CONTRACT OF SALE, THAT HE NOT SPEAK TO ANYONE RELATIVE TO THE SALE.
WHO IS SCOTT TOBIA? Not much is known about the individual. He first came on the CMKX scene when his name was listed as the seller of the CMKX.com website.
Posted by: CMKXstockman In reply to: None Date:5/9/2004 11:38:25 AM Post #of 135785
CMKX.COM for sale by owner
Does anyone want to purchase CMKX.COM not often is a ticker symbol for a stock up for sale. Dont care if it is a long or a basher that buys it. email offers to insideroffshore@aol.com offered it to melvin and co but recieved no response. I would think the company would want it just to keep bashers from having it. Would have even accepted stock instead of cash but thats the way it goes. just email offers to me
And the Domain registration for CMKX.com : Domain: CMKX.COM Registrant/Owner: 000-..15460 a1427 w 86th st #151 indianapolis in, 46250 US Administrative Contact: 000-..15460 scott tobia 1427 w 86th st #151 indianapolis in, 46250 US +1.3174591954 This is only important because it links Scott to a personal interest in the company, as far back as May, 2004. And during our interview, he denied any connection to the CMKX sale ad. Why? NOTE: the address 1427 W. 86th St, #151 Indpls, IN and the phone number. It appears in some of his Corporate registrations for AZTM and other companies.
WHAT ARE HIS BUSINESS CONNECTIONS?
Search Results 1 - 8 of 8 search results
Officer Name Officer Type Corporation Name SCOTT TOBIA President AZTEC MINING CORP. SCOTT TOBIA Secretary AZTEC MINING CORP. SCOTT TOBIA Treasurer AZTEC MINING CORP. SCOTT TOBIA Treasurer AZTEC MINING CORP. SCOTT TOBIA President KITTYHAWK HOLDINGS SCOTT TOBIA Secretary KITTYHAWK HOLDINGS SCOTT TOBIA Treasurer KITTYHAWK HOLDINGS SCOTT TOBIA President EASTON INVESTMENTS
Address of listing for Kittyhawk. Resident Agent: STEVENSON MANAGEMENT GROUP, INC. address 9750 PEACEWAY #2090 Same residential apartment address as for Aztec Minining Corp.
Address of Easton Investments: Still listed as RA: STEVENSON MANAGEMENT GROUP, INC. address 9750 PEACEWAY #2090 Scott Tobia listing his address as 3815 RIVER CROSSING PKWY SUITE 100 INDIANAPOLIS IN the current address of AZTM
SO WHO IS THIS STEVENSON MANAGEMENT GROUP, INC.?
President - SHAWN F HACKMAN Address 1: 9750 PEACE WAY #2090 Address 2: City: LAS VEGAS State: NV Zip: 89147 Country: Status: Active Email:
SHAWN F HACKMAN IS AN OFFICER IN MANY NEVADA CORPORATIONS WITH JOHN "ED" DHONAU, INCLUDING: HORIZON PRIME, INC; RED BLUFF CORPORATION; SILVER STREAM CORP; WESTERN SKY, INC; S.F.H. HOLDINGS, I INC; AND S.F.H. HOLDINGS, II INC;
ADDRESS: 1427 W. 86TH ST. INDPLS. IN MAILBOXES ETC. BOX This address first came to light when CMKX.com, the website, was placed on sale in an ad circulated around the message boards.
ADDRESS: 3815 RIVER CROSSING PKWY INDPLS. IN (317) 566-2169 ACTUAL OFFICE OF AZTM (TEMP OFFICE) "ONE RIVER CROSS BLDG."
quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: Geeessssuuuussss!!! Legal has flipped out! Gone over the edge! He wasted all that time going back to dig up any "negative" information he could find. Very impressive, legal! That your idea of DD as opposed to stupidity?
I won't go back, but do remember when you did not know the difference between various dividend dates....x-date, record date, effective date, pay date. I also remember you stating that "pro-forma" means 1 to 1. Guess you overlooked your own posts, huh? You certainly were being selective with all those posts. Again, diversion and distortion!! Is that how you got people to confess when you were a cop? Man, you must have arrested some pretty stupid ones.
How about, you legal (aka noahltl), providing information in enough detail to allow someone to find out your real name is JB (Would you like me to spell it out?) How about your intelligent precinct buddies adding to the information you gave that poster?
How about my unconditional one time offer to bury the hatchet and your conditional response (which hedged and was, in effect, a refusal).
I see YOUR so-called Christian ethic has come to the forefront of your mind. GLTY
We'll just let folks figure out for themselves who you are, and what you do, or attempt to do, here.
"JB (Would you like me to spell it out?)" Go ahead "tough guy", it's back in the threads anyway. I don't have anything to be ashamed of, or afraid of. You are really stooping low now and reaching that "breaking point" you used to reach all the time.
And the "stalker" who did his DD on me, and called the PD? They had to give out information on former officers because it is public information, but they also traced his call and we have his name, et alia.
" I see YOUR so-called Christian ethic has come to the forefront of your mind."
It stays there Wallace. "Do not yoke yourselves with unbelievers."
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Ya see, over at CT, people get all sides of the story. Good with the bad. But don't forget what I told you in an earlier post about Hackman turning state's evidence.
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You asked about Section 12(g). It's a section of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. I have posted it below in part, the balance of the subsection refers to exemptions, etc.:
Registration of securities by issuer; exemptions
Every issuer which is engaged in interstate commerce, or in a business affecting interstate commerce, or whose securities are traded by use of the mails or any means or instrumentality of interstate commerce shall--
within one hundred and twenty days after the last day of its first fiscal year ended after July 1, 1964, on which the issuer has total assets exceeding $1,000,000 and a class of equity security (other than an exempted security) held of record by seven hundred and fifty or more persons; and
within one hundred and twenty days after the last day of its first fiscal year ended after two years from July 1, 1964, on which the issuer has total assets exceeding $1,000,000 and a class of equity security (other than an exempted security) held of record by five hundred or more but less than seven hundred and fifty persons,
register such security by filing with the Commission a registration statement (and such copies thereof as the Commission may require) with respect to such security containing such information and documents as the Commission may specify comparable to that which is required in an application to register a security pursuant to subsection (b) of this section. Each such registration statement shall become effective sixty days after filing with the Commission or within such shorter period as the Commission may direct. Until such registration statement becomes effective it shall not be deemed filed for the purposes of section 18. Any issuer may register any class of equity security not required to be registered by filing a registration statement pursuant to the provisions of this paragraph. The Commission is authorized to extend the date upon which any issuer or class of issuers is required to register a security pursuant to the provisions of this paragraph.
Please note that the above has been a requirement at least since the timing specified above. Yet neither UC nor any of his legal or financial people knew about it? That's why they filed in the first place! That's why they claimed not to be required to file in the second place!
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