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by the way wallace are you still in HISC? got in at .014 today on the news then looked deeper...not a bad company...cmkx should look at its 211 info filing for a lesson in up front pink sheet stocks

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CMKX SHAREHOLDERS GROUP SUBPOENA'S DTCC RECORDS ON 2 YEARS TRADING ON CMKX.

http://www.cmkxownersgroup.com/CMKXSubpoenatotheDTCC.pdf

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well legel you finally found something of value & interest that is CMKX only. if all those shareholders really want the truth then thats the right first step because you wont get it from cmkx. the dtc will probably refuse & go to court over it even if its not shorted because it would open the flood gates on the stocks that have value & have a n/s problem. those are the ones the dtc will not want getting out. until cmkx can prove that most of the o/s is not free trading & everything that can be found says it is free trading, the dtc will not spend 1 second worrying about cmkx.

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quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
by the way wallace are you still in HISC? got in at .014 today on the news then looked deeper...not a bad company...cmkx should look at its 211 info filing for a lesson in up front pink sheet stocks

Yes, Bill, I am still holding my HISC. Got in some time back and have 160K shs. Making some $$$$ there.

GLTY on it.

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i saw wallace you got in at .004? good buy there. i'd be willing to bet in a few months if not sooner you'll get over 1000% on that

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But there is one error there Legal. The shareholders group did not subpoena the records. CMKX's lawyers did. The group can't subpoena anything.

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quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
well legel you finally found something of value & interest that is CMKX only. if all those shareholders really want the truth then thats the right first step because you wont get it from cmkx. the dtc will probably refuse & go to court over it even if its not shorted because it would open the flood gates on the stocks that have value & have a n/s problem. those are the ones the dtc will not want getting out. until cmkx can prove that most of the o/s is not free trading & everything that can be found says it is free trading, the dtc will not spend 1 second worrying about cmkx.

THIS NEWS WAS PUT OUT BY THE SHAREHOLDERS GROUP, BUT ACTUALLY THE SUBPOENA WAS FILED BY STOECKLEIN FOR CMKX.
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Too bad stockholders cannot subpoena financial records from companies that do not provide them.

Too bad stockholders cannot subpoena actual share count of holdings so they can determine the float.

Too bad stockholders cannot subpoena all that information identified as "Majority Shareholders" who made up that 85+% and who each own no more than 4.9% (conveniently), which is a hair under the 5% requirement to report. Strange how all those 4.9% Majority Shareholders somehow agreed with UC and the Board of Directors and decided not to hold a meeting of "public shareholders". If my math is correct, that would take somewhere around 17+ holders (more or less) to do it.....not so many, huh? Hell, between the Casavants' other companies, trusts, relatives not named Casavant, etc and friends (including honest Ed Dhonau and opinioned Dvorak,Esq.) not difficult to do.

Too bad stockholders cannot subpoena and changes to the Articles of Incorporation since those Pfd shares were cancelled and to what extent said Articles have been modified.

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sorry legel your right...it may help but coming from cmkx it could be a delay tactic...they have done nothing to bring trust in anything they do.

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OH, BUT YOU CAN WALLACE. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS FILE SUIT.
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WALLACE, WHY ARE YOU HERE? YOUR TO SMART TO BE MESSING WITH THIS,LET IT GO.AND GIVE ME A GOOD PICK PLEASE. THANKS
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quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
OH, BUT YOU CAN WALLACE. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS FILE SUIT.

Then why haven't you pumper cult people done so???? Hell, you wanted it more than anyone. In view of the shares all of you combined hold, you were remiss in not doing just that!!!!
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quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
sorry legel your right...it may help but coming from cmkx it could be a delay tactic...they have done nothing to bring trust in anything they do.

Sure they do, Bill. They have honest Ed Dhonau and his buddy in many ventures, Dvorak,Esq. "to bring trust in anything they do.". Remember, honest Ed heads Fizzle/Frazzel's list of witnesses. Remember Dvorak's Opinion of Counsel on those shares?
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Today, 1,533,164,296 in volume, 323 trades.
It'll be interesting to see what tomorrows will be.LOL

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by legaleagle:
OH, BUT YOU CAN WALLACE. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS FILE SUIT.

Then why haven't you pumper cult people done so???? Hell, you wanted it more than anyone. In view of the shares all of you combined hold, you were remiss in not doing just that!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE TO FILE SUIT IF YOU TRUST THAT THE COMPANY IS DOING THE RIGHT THING. IMPATIENCE IS NOT A GOOD BASIS FOR A LEGAL ACTION.
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legal wrote: "YOU DON'T HAVE TO FILE SUIT IF YOU TRUST THAT THE COMPANY IS DOING THE RIGHT THING."

Guess you cult people and CT people didn't care to know any of that information, huh? Oh, I forgot. Hush, hush, top secret decision making by top flight managerial people hiding deep secret diamonds and potential because someone might steal their valuable wares. LMAO

PS: Anyone making a stock trading decision based upon "TRUST" deserves what they get and got.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wallace#1:
legal wrote: "YOU DON'T HAVE TO FILE SUIT IF YOU TRUST THAT THE COMPANY IS DOING THE RIGHT THING."

Guess you cult people and CT people didn't care to know any of that information, huh? Oh, I forgot. Hush, hush, top secret decision making by top flight managerial people hiding deep secret diamonds and potential because someone might steal their valuable wares. LMAO

NOW YA GOT IT.
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If the naked short shares don't fit...
I hope that this could be even better than if CMKX hit diamonds.Would take both though.LOL
I don't care how long all this takes, as long as the legal actions are precise and calculated(pun intended), man this is getting fun.
Go for the jugular UC!

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No legal, you GOT IT! AND RIGHT WHERE THE SUN DOESN'T SHINE! Your problem you don't know how to pull it out or how to pull yourself away from it.
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RUMOR: DROPPED
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At last...

Hopefully BS (whose BS?) will be over pretty soon [Smile]

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Fact is folks, the SEC isn't bringing action because of NSS, but because of falsification of the Form 15. Seems to me they would have to have reasonable cause to want and get that information. Since the proceedings deal with an entirely different matter there is no reasonable cause to get it.
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quote:
Originally posted by TruthTeller:
At last...

Hopefully BS (whose BS?) will be over pretty soon [Smile]

SORRY TRUTH TELLER, HAD TO DROP THE RUMOR, WE ARE NOW GETTING CONFLICTING REPORTS. SO I THOUGHT IT BETTER TO JUST WAIT UNTIL MORNING.
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Don't worry legal, another brass ring will be coming 'round for you folks. Another free ride in circles from UC et al.
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Hey, I wonder where Upside is. Bet he's up to no good!!! LOL Go get 'im, Will.
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quote:
Originally posted by bill1352:
i agree again wallace & glass. the problem lies in they are greedy & when a stock gets hit in a big run they end up buying shares at a hi pps only to have it tank the next day. if there was a pool to draw from as needed & every weekend all short were filled from the pool & the cash put in its place to refill the pool at a better point it would serve the purpose. any other short to be filled monday by increasing the bid. this way once a week all positions would be covered & the market would still be liquid

Bill, excellent post, to bad the people who made up regulation (SHO) didnt consult with you first.

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finky, are you kidding? They did. Bill told them and they said, SHO me da money!!! LOL
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Wallace...when do the rest of us get to see the final shoot out at the OK corral...Who are the Clantin's and the Earps going to be....Need more popcorn and beer,back in a few!!...I am going to look at HISC...Raptor posted MVIS ...Wallace any thoughts on MVIS..Thanks

sometimes I feel like an ant under a cattle stampede.......Dusty

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Doesn't anyone find it strange that CMKX did this less then two weeks before hearing. Could they know they won't get it to delay or is it just that they knew they couldn't win so they are trying to distract attention away from the real issues of non filing P&D.

I mean if this was the real issue why wasn't it in the original list. Also why wasn't it in the original brief?

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quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
Doesn't anyone find it strange that CMKX did this less then two weeks before hearing. Could they know they won't get it to delay or is it just that they knew they couldn't win so they are trying to distract attention away from the real issues of non filing P&D.

I mean if this was the real issue why wasn't it in the original list. Also why wasn't it in the original brief?

Ric, you can't list something in your exhibit list until you know you are going to get it. I suspect, and they proably do too, that the DTCC is going to resist this. If they do, I don't think this thing will be delayed; I think it will be dropped. No one is well served by dragging this thing out. Not even Urban.
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because its not a real issue ric, you know this & so does anyone not in the cult. its an attempt at a delay. this frizzle guy & if i remember right stocklien said the judge wants the facts on the 10th about the company & its transactions. watch, on the 10th there will be a motion or a defense that will state this info is needed to prove an attempt to expose the problem is behind the actions that brought cmkx to court. by now stocklien has had enough time to dig deeper & it knows there is no viable defense to UC's actions. they have a stock owners group thats been pumping this idea & will swear on bibles its true, even without the first bit of proof.

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get um bill...........lol

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hey, i would like to see the DTCC records...but i won't hold my breath....
there are quite few i would like to see actually...

anybody else been noticing OTHER MM's behaving like NITE lately?

i watched UCAP sell 3-4 million shares of EVSC today without buying a single one....

who the heck is UCAP? never even noticed 'em before...

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Somebody's going to say to the judge, "What does Stoecklein's subpoena to the DTCC (which deals with NSS questions), have to do with falsification of Form 15. That will come from the Prosecution to the judge. Further, the DTCC will raise the same issue and state there is no reasonable cause to require such documentation. Remember the DTCC has attorneys as well. I suspect the judge will say forget that subpoena since it is not relative to the allegations the SEC has stated. If UC or anyone else tries to use that as an excuse, the case is immediately decided in the SEC's favor because they will have to admit they purposely falsified that Form 15 in order to explain how/why they believed the NSS may have affected their decision making. There could be no other response but, "I lied on Form 15 because....". GUILTY!!!

Good night.

PS: Dusty, you have PM re MVIS.

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you very well could be right wallace but as lawyers its their job to try anything & right now delay is the best tactic, they have nothing else.

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