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Latest chatter on the value card. Some saying it's a hoax. Does anything go smoothly on this stock?
johnsjungle
PR Discrepancies today... « Thread started on: Today at 8:59pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First they use CMKX Diamonds Inc. We are CMKM Diamonds Inc.
Second they did not tell us where we can get the cards. If they are to be rolling this out don't you think they would want all of us saying I'm going to get one. Wouldn't they tell us where...
Third they don't even bother to give us a link to any of our websites... All our previous PR's link us to our websites don't you think we would be linked to our website and cmxkextreme's website...
Fourth they give no value to what this entity might do for them. Wow look at this nifty card but it does nothing...
Fifth, The disclosure statement it is directly copied from ISAT.OB's July 28th PR. They forgot to Replace the one ISAT with CMKX though. They did manage to fix one. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040728/285436_1.html
Sixth the words in the disclosure they say may be forward looking don't even exist in our PR.
Seventh we have never used a disclosure statement that looks like this where did it come from...
IMO I think this is a fake PR. I may be wrong, and I could be but this just doesn't make any sense at all.
My real family is back now so I'll be spending less time on the boards, but this doesn't mean that I won't be keeping at least one eye on the screen LOL.
I was pretty disgusted by that PR today - almost like a slap in the face if you ask me. But like I have said before, this is nothing more than a lottery ticket for me so there is no way in h3ll I'll be selling before the PPS is such that I feel I've won that lottery.
Those who think I'm a pumper need to get a life - all I do is confront the bashers because I think they have potential to do damage to this stock and its investors. Does that make me a pumper? - Hardly! I think I actually have a very neutral position on this stock, and I am open to listen to both sides, granted that the arguments or statements that are being made are relevant to this stock and are backed up by facts or at least good arguments.
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GLTA-IMO-DD
Maybe it's just me but it sure sounds like somebody is mocking someone else... (kind of has a taste of what the basher was doing to Noah on the weekend)
Wallace, I don't like you and that's no secret. The way you were defending the basher who attacked Noah shows me that your intentions, while seemingly innocent at times, are in fact malicious. Even when you are in "Mr. nice guy" mode, you always slip in that last bit of innuendo, intending to keep your target audience interested in you, yet making them second-guess this company until your next all-out assault, as we have seen them many times before, convinces those people that this stock indeed is a SCAM. I am starting to think more and more that you do this for your own benefit as you seem to enjoy day-trading this stock for quick profits. The fact that you are mocking Debi now opens a new dark chapter in your pathetic existance here and I can't wait to see where you're going with it. All eyes on you, buddy!
Wasn't it you who recommended CMKX to someone as a "cheap profitable stock"? Do you have any figures as to profit that none of the rest of the people on this thread have? Maybe you are an insider and we just don't know it? I figure that is the only way you would know anything about CMKX's financial status. Please explain.
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How about this tiny discrepancy in the disclaimer section: "Such statements and all phases of ISAT's operations are subject to known and unknown risks,"
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Point number one is the clincher for me. What? Like they don't even know their own name? Doubt it. I'm voting that it's bogus. Thanks for finding that one, noah.
noahltl Member posted August 11, 2004 21:18 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Latest chatter on the value card. Some saying it's a hoax. Does anything go smoothly on this stock?
johnsjungle
PR Discrepancies today... « Thread started on: Today at 8:59pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First they use CMKX Diamonds Inc. We are CMKM Diamonds Inc.
Second they did not tell us where we can get the cards. If they are to be rolling this out don't you think they would want all of us saying I'm going to get one. Wouldn't they tell us where...
Third they don't even bother to give us a link to any of our websites... All our previous PR's link us to our websites don't you think we would be linked to our website and cmxkextreme's website...
Fourth they give no value to what this entity might do for them. Wow look at this nifty card but it does nothing...
Fifth, The disclosure statement it is directly copied from ISAT.OB's July 28th PR. They forgot to Replace the one ISAT with CMKX though. They did manage to fix one. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040728/285436_1.html
Sixth the words in the disclosure they say may be forward looking don't even exist in our PR.
Seventh we have never used a disclosure statement that looks like this where did it come from...
IMO I think this is a fake PR. I may be wrong, and I could be but this just doesn't make any sense at all.
Good Luck...
Just my opinion...
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quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: I assure you, MP, the feeling is mutual.
Wasn't it you who recommended CMKX to someone as a "cheap profitable stock"? Do you have any figures as to profit that none of the rest of the people on this thread have? Maybe you are an insider and we just don't know it? I figure that is the only way you would know anything about CMKX's financial status. Please explain.
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What the H3LL are you talking about??? I never made such a statement. Nice try and excellent DD, "Wall Street ace #1"! (Is your brain getting enough air? Might wanna try to open that valve on your oxygen bottle a bit more!)
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Here is the PR as listed on Ameritrade with the news report coming from BusinessWire...
Press Release for Cmkm Diamond Inc
CMKXTREME Inc. Offers Customized VISA Pre-Paid Stored Value Card to Their Race Fan Affinity Group and CMKX Diamonds Inc. Shareholders 8/11/2004 1:37:00 PM LAS VEGAS, Aug 11, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKX DIAMONDS Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) announced today that it has signed an agreement with CMKXTREME Inc. to offer a VISA Pre-Paid Stored Value card to the CMKX shareholders and race fan affinity group.
Urban Casavant, CEO of CMKX, stated: "CMKX is offering this innovative product to their shareholders to once again provide value to their shareholders in new and useful ways. It is rare to be able to provide shareholders and affiliates with a unique benefit whose usefulness can be measured in many ways. We are thrilled to be able to provide this service and product through CMKXTREME to our shareholders, affiliates and race fans alike."
As a VISA product, the card can be used at more than 1 million ATM or merchants locations worldwide that display the VISA or Plus logos.
The VISA Pre-Paid Stored Value card is neither a credit card nor a debit card and does not require a banking account to be opened when applying. The card is signature based for point-of-sale transactions and PIN based for ATM transactions. The card also carries a zero-liability guarantee that states the cardholder will not be liable for unauthorized use of the card provided notification is given within a reasonable time of the loss or theft of the card. The accounts also have a user ID and password for online access to protect the security of the account. Online access provides cardholders with the ability to view their balance, transactions, and to transfer funds to other CMKXTREME cardholders. Cardholders can also access the same features from a toll-free telephone system. Customer service is provided free 24/7 from the United States.
Cardholders can securely add additional funds to their card through a free Web site or through a toll-free telephone system from an existing checking account or credit card. Additional options include payroll deposit, wire, ACH and cash deposits at participating locations.
Certain statements in this press release are "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. Such forward-looking statements may be identified by words such as "anticipates," "believes," "can," "continue," "could," "estimates," "expects," "intends," "may," "plans," "potential," "predicts," "should," or "will" or the negative of these terms or other comparable terminology. Such statements and all phases of ISAT's operations are subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, including overall economic conditions and any unforeseen change in the markets. Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date hereof. CMKX's actual results, levels of activity, performance or achievements may be materially different from any future results, levels of activity, performance or achievements expressed or implied by these forward-looking statements. The company undertakes no obligation to update the forward-looking statements in this press release.
SOURCE: CMKX DIAMONDS Inc.
CMKM Diamonds Inc. Diamonds Hotline Melvin O'Neil, 306-752-3755 Toll-free in U.S./Canada: 877-752-3755 Fax: 306-752-3754
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Looks like you are right MP. It was your buddy JBCak47 (8/3 @ 1811) and Trading Wizard (8/3 @ 16:24). You two guys sound and act so much alike that it is difficult to remember which one of you said what. I will bring it up close to the top of the Under .$10 Topics so you can easily find it.
It's a question by Otcobargains about "cheap profitable stocks"
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I think this PR is fishy. Too many inconsistencies. Drastic times for the MMs call for drastic measures. I think it is a possibility we are looking at a fake. Who knows, though, this company never ceases to amaze me, so I'm keeping my mind open. Anyway, I ain't sellin' a share either way. Nice entertainment, though!
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Posted by: zeninvestor32 In reply to: None Date:8/11/2004 10:39:21 PM Post #of 75886
MY (MORE COLLECTED) THOUGHTS 8/11
Ok, brace yourself. I'm going to make some leaps of faith in here with respect to today's PR. But first on to the more tangible noteworthy pieces today.
1. UCA on the Vancouver looked interesting today. 9x normal volume. Up 31%. Shane up 33% on 8x normal volume. Any coicindence this is happening as our partners all meet in Canada this week. The relationships between CMKX, UCAD, UCA, KPG and SEIh are all interwoven and IMO it's only a matter of time (may be happening as we speak) before it all gets restructured into one entity anyway.
Popular guy that Rick K. I guess companies like your help when you were Cameco's Athabasca Exploration manager and when you JV with the Lundins.
Okay, I dread this part, but here goes.
The "Stored Value" card PR today.
I am going to stick to my guns and say this was a LOUSY release today, but NOT because of what Urban is trying to accomplish. It is LOUSY because of its timing. I too am fed up with the pre-success marketing. Enough funny cars. Enough Vegas planning. Enough Visa cards. SHOW ME THE MONEY. Ok, I got that out of my system. That having been said, I realized something important ... I don't run the company. Urban does. And I can fault him all I want but he obviously will continue to attend races. He will continue to move forward on his marketing plans. He will continue to release PRs that say "Good job Melvin!" while dedicating a weekend race to Vicki simply to show his gratitude. He is not your conventional CEO. Then again neither was Richard Branson (Virgin) or Herb Kelleher (Southwest). Urban is no doubt a wild card maverick. Believe it or not, in the end, that mindset may have been what has put us in the position we are in today with our property. Somehow he ended up with what may prove to be the most valuable natural resource land in Canada. I feel confident it didn't happen because he is a starchy, conservative, corporate-type.
Urban, to me, is making it clear that he has made the executive decision to set the foundation for his marketing and shareholder relations BEFORE the stock rises (assuming it does) rather than after. That's his right. To those that don't like it, they can sell. But believe me, I've been in companies that have been UNDERmarketed or not marketed at all, and it is far worse and painful than anything else. In the end, I believe we will all be thrilled at Urban's devotion to keeping shareholders happy and interested. I just kinda wish we had more concrete information first.
That having been said, I have some points to make on why I am VERY excited by this Visa card (even though it could have waited a few more weeks IMO):
1. Do some DD on "stored value" cards. They are EXPLODING and are at the forefront of electronic technology. Fortune 500 companies are now using them to actually make payroll deposits. Regularly. People love them. And they are a marketer's absolute wet dream. Constant communication and specific deals just for cardholders. For example, with these cards, Urban could send emails offering CMKX shareholders $$$ off on cmkx merchandise while the rest of the purchase helps fund the funny car sponsorship. Eventually when the Casavant brand diamond emerges, the possibilities for deals and loyalty rewards are endless. This is a BRILLIANT marketing plan once you read up on "Stored Value" cards and see what the future holds for them. It will surprise you. I promise.
2. Every transaction is a story to tell. Once CMKX has risen (assuming it does), every time you slap this card down on the counter, it's a story to tell. You use it in all facets of your life. It's a constant reminder to you and everyone around you. Why in the world do you think customized credit cards these days for companies (like Yahoo or PayPal) or soooooooooooo popular. Top of sight, top of mind. Again, marketing. Very good, sound marketing.
3. Ok, now the biggie. NOBODY WILL EVER USE THESE CARDS IF THIS STOCK NEVER GETS OFF THE GROUND. Urban is farting in the wind if he thinks people will order these cards without concurrent stock success. IMO (ok, here comes a great leap), Urban has some things going on that have given him the confidence to KNOW that this card is going to be a powder keg of opportunity because he KNOWS of the company's success already. I know that requires some faith (and is the main reason why I disagree with Urban's PR on this now rather than after success). But the truth is today's PR is MEANINGLESS without ammo to back it. I think Urban must know he has the goods to go forward with something this in-your-face.
4. And, when I think about Urban's overall pattern of behavior, it has always been one of wanting to be in constant contact with shareholders and wanting to ultimately have them do well. He retired shares. He wants to visibly meet with shareholders. He is giving dividends. He is giving up his shares. He reaches out to Melvin and others. As I have said, he is a giving man. This card is a fascinating way for him to stay in touch with and constant communication with shareholders. Now cardholders will receive emails, offers, who knows maybe even the option eventually for direct dividend loading onto your card (certainly not at first IMO and I don't even know if legally this could be possible under the regulatory distribution guidelines). It is an interesting twist to a man that has shown some odd but very likable character in a number of ways. Assuming we do succeed, I would very much like for this path to continually be open for Urban to continue rewarding us and communicating with us. Why in the world not????
5. (Huge leap here) What do you fund these cards with? Cash. What have past releases mentioned? Cash dividends. What would be a perfectly timed "stored value" card to coincide with a sudden ability to have large amounts of funding transferred on to this card? Hmmmmmm. In time for Vegas maybe? Hmmmmmm. Yes, it's a leap, but my gut tells me they wouldn't be able to manufacture enough of these cards in time if we were to get a nice cash dividend in the near future. Uranium? Oil/gas? Potash? Gold? Something might have been sold off to supply a nice little cash reward in the near term to make these cards oh so very useful. You can bet your BUTT I'll be ordering a CMKXtreme card if I found a cash dividend coming my way that at the very least covered my initial investment (and hopefully a whole lot more). I know this point's a stretch, but if Urban knew he was about to make a lot of people very rich, boy oh boy is this card going to be VERY POPULAR. And if so, we will all look back and say "That Urban knew EXACTLY what he was doing." Make me a believer Urban (I already am but you know that). Is Urban tipping us off that cash is coming? Show me the money Urban and I will show you thousands of loyal shareholders that will use this card for the REST OF THEIR LIFE.
Them's my thoughts. Like'em or lump'em. And as to some of the rather nasty private messages I've been getting, I've said it before. I ain't here on a popularity contest. These are my opinions. Get over it if they bother you!!
Z
As always, these are my personal opinions.
Hopefully nobody in here is investing anything but "fun" money that they can afford to gamble with.
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Here's a clip from an ISAT SEC filing. Note that they sold off International Strategic Assets, Inc. The company was involved in the marketing of gold and silver.
I really don't know what all of this PR is about, and don't know if it's a fake or not.
Through its two wholly-owned subsidiary Minnesota corporations, ShoptropolisTV.com, Inc. (f/k/a Internationale Shopping Alliance, Inc.) and International Strategic Assets, Inc., ISA Internationale, Inc. (ISAI) was engaged in two distinct businesses: (1.) the development of a multimedia home shopping network primarily for the purpose of generating direct retail sales of varied products from TV viewers and Internet shoppers, and (2.) direct sales via outbound telemarketing of precious metals consisting mainly of gold and silver coins and bars.
ISAI is presently attempting to financially restructure itself. ISAI disposed of International Strategic Assets, Inc. on May 19, 2000, and ISAI disposed of the ShoptropolisTV.Com, Inc. on March 29, 2001 as a part of its re- organization efforts. Additional re-organization efforts include negotiation with creditors to restructure and convert debt to equity and actively seek new business opportunities. After successful completion of its re-organization efforts, ISAI plans to pursue strategic alternatives that may include the purchase of a business or acquisition by another entity. Until its reorganization efforts are completed, the Company does not believe it can consummate a strategic business development transaction with third party or strategic financial partner.
ISAI was incorporated in Delaware in 1989 under a former name, and was inactive operationally for some time prior to its May 1998 recapitalization through a merger with ShoptropolisTV.com, Inc. (f/k/a Internationale Shopping Alliance Inc.), which is now a wholly owned subsidiary of ISAI. ISAI acquired its home shopping network business through such merger, after which the former shareholders of this subsidiary acquired 89% of the outstanding common stock of ISAI through a stock exchange. ISAI issued 11,772,600 shares of its common stock in exchange for all of the outstanding common stock of ShoptropolisTV.com, Inc. This merger was effected as a reverse merger for financial statement and operational purposes, and accordingly, ISA regards its inception as being the incorporation of ShoptropolisTV.com, Inc. on October 7, 1997. ISAI sold ShoptropolisTV.com, Inc. on March 29, 2001.
ISAI incorporated its precious metals subsidiary, International Strategic Assets, Inc., as a Minnesota corporation in March 1999. Its business is direct sales via outbound telemarketing of precious metals consisting mainly of gold and silver coins and bars. ISAI sold International Strategic Assets, Inc. on May 19, 2000 to an individual who was an officer and director of the ISAI.
quote:Originally posted by StonedPigeon: ok why would anyone fake a pr. with no bad news?
SP,
This PR would be bad news for those who were anticipating the "bombshell PR" all the boards have been hyped up about. If I was inexperienced, and I had invested a relatively large amount of money in this stock, I might have gotten fed-up and sold as well!
I'm not saying it's a fake, just that the possibility exists, that's all.
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Maybe this is the solution to the problem. IAST acquired a financial / banking services company on July 28. Here is a clip from the PR. Maybe they are a subscriber of VISA, are handling the card transactions, and released the PR for UC, making some mistakes.
"ISA Internationale Inc., headquartered in St Paul, Minnesota, was formerly in the cable television business before it ceased operations in 2000. Since then, reorganization specialists Doubletree Capital Partners LLC, have internally reorganized the company and changed its direction to focus on the financial services industry."
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ISAT is Internet Satellite Platform, Inc. They are in the Telecommunications industry. Apparently, their systems or techniques are effective for sending/receiving information from or to rural areas. Maybe they want or have to put in a disclaimer because they are being used. Maybe if this originated out in the boonies of Canada somewhere in a mining camp, and that is how they became involved.
I am not about to put a SPIN on the release. I think it is authentic.
Please note that I said ISAT, not IAST.
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quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: ISAT is Internet Satellite Platform, Inc. They are in the Telecommunications industry. Apparently, their systems or techniques are effective for sending/receiving information from or to rural areas. Maybe they want or have to put in a disclaimer because they are being used. Maybe if this originated out in the boonies of Canada somewhere in a mining camp, and that is how they became involved.
I am not about to put a SPIN on the release. I think it is authentic.
Please note that I said ISAT, not IAST.
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I hate to waste this much thread space, but to help Wallace understand,note the PR is for ISA Internationale but they use the ISAT at the bottom, in a duplicate of today's PR / and it is their OTCBB designation.
ISA Internationale Inc. to Acquire Financial Services Companies Wednesday July 28, 9:30 am ET
LOS ANGELES--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 28, 2004--ISA Internationale Inc. (OTCBB:ISAT - News) announced today that it has signed a binding letter of intent to acquire a debt-free, privately-held network of financial services companies composed of Harrison Asset Management Inc. (HAMI), Money Asset Management, Inc. (MAMI), Cash Asset Management Inc. (CAMI), e-commerce bank First American Financial Family Services (FAFFS), and United Recovery Inc. (URI) -- a wholly-owned subsidiary of MAMI. Together these companies have accumulated distressed portfolio assets valued at more than $300 million dollars, that initially cost the companies $11 million dollars. ISA Internationale Inc., headquartered in St Paul, Minnesota, was formerly in the cable television business before it ceased operations in 2000. Since then, reorganization specialists Doubletree Capital Partners LLC, have internally reorganized the company and changed its direction to focus on the financial services industry.
The companies acquired by ISAT represent a wide spectrum of expertise, including: HAMI is focused on collections of present portfolios; MAMI was established to continue private investment and portfolio acquisitions; URI is a licensed in-house collection agency that was created to collect on future debt purchases; and CAMI was incorporated to continue the acquisition and collections process. As an extension of the aforementioned companies, FAFFS is a development-stage company that was created to offer banking products both to these companies' investors and debtors.
Together, these newly-acquired companies provide ISAT with a knowledge-base in buying, selling and collecting several type of delinquent and defaulted debt. In addition to the proprietary in-house collections division and the outsourcing of debt, these companies have a new third party collections division in addition to collecting its own purchased debt.
Terms of the transaction call for ISAT to pay the acquired companies' common and preferred shareholders with ISAT Common shares and warrants for the acquisition of these companies. In addition, if the companies achieve certain EBITDA earning objectives over the next three years, those shareholders will be entitled to bonus ISAT shares, based upon performance. ISAT will maintain its corporate offices in St. Paul, Minnesota, and will continue to pursue suitable acquisitions in the financial services industry, consistent with its new business plan. The newly acquired network will be headquartered in Calabasas, California, and will be led by Anthony Pickett, an executive with more than 35 years of business experience.
Certain statements in this press release are "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. Such forward-looking statements may be identified by words such as "anticipates," "believes," "can," "continue," "could," "estimates," "expects," "intends," "may," "plans," "potential," "predicts," "should," or "will" or the negative of these terms or other comparable terminology. Such statements and all phases of ISAT's operations are subject to known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, including overall economic conditions and any unforeseen change in the markets. Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date hereof. ISAT's actual results, levels of activity, performance or achievements may be materially different from any future results, levels of activity, performance or achievements expressed or implied by these forward-looking statements. The Company undertakes no obligation to update the forward-looking statements in this press release.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact: The Rose Group Jeff Rose, 310-280-3710 jeff@therosegrp.com
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Have it your way, noahltl. If anyone else wants to check out ISAT, I just put in "Business Wire, ISAT" and Searched. Or just put in Internet Satellite Platform, Inc.
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Melvin said the meeting was "very good"... « Thread started on: Today at 11:30pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...and the results of the meeting would be out in a PR....he actually stated that he can't say much more than that in the Paltalk room b/c the risk of insider trading.
BTW, he also said..."by God, we will get one (core sample)."
Unfortunately, he will not give out time frames as to when we will get either of the above. « Last Edit: Today at 11:32pm by james55702 »
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Look everyone, Why did we all come here in the first place? I'm guessing it was to share research, ideas, and opinions about a stock we own, were considering, or to give fair warning or encouragement to others thinking about it. Why then has this thread turned into a huge waste of Bob Freys bandwidth? I got into it last weekend with Wallace over some garbage I posted about him. He was right, I was right, or neither of us was right, it doesn't matter. Let's all try to focus on the matter at hand. If we disagree with someones post, ignore it. If someone brings something that might be relevant, let's dissect it and expound upon it. It's only going to benefit all of us, while bickering back and forth accomplishes nothing.
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quote:Originally posted by darrenbaker: I missed pal talk tonight, Can someone please tell me what he said about Vicky?
I'm sure someone has the whole trascript but esentially he said in a recent doctor's visit blood tests showed her iron levels way too high. Melvin was obviously concerned as are the doctors. She will be put on medication but Melvin got pretty emotional and got off of Paltalk.
I agree with all you stated above except for the part where you said if someone "says something we disagree with, ignore it."
No offense, but if information is given as fact or is implied to be fact when it obviously is not fact, it must be brought to the attention of all posters. Otherwise others reading said posts may be detrimentally misled. I have seen it all too many times on this thread, and that is what has led to many of the rumors and speculations that are rampant.
After all that nonsense about the latest release about a credit card, it appears that it may have been confirmed by Melvin. The SPIN has been rampant and all over the place. You may have noticed, I said I thought it was authentic.
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