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same info on pinksheets site regarding UCAD dividend payout. wont let me post a link here though.

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I think someone needs to have cinnimon
flavored pop-rocks. With a few pieces of
clear rock candy in it.

When held in your hand they would look like
diamonds in the rough.

Called ---- Pay-Dirt!


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Good Morning All, I saw the shareholder party info on another site right before bed. This party is for happy shareholders IMO. I don't know what the announcements will be in the upcoming days but I am buying as much as I can and as soon as I can. I think I can smell a cash dividend coming. I know you cannot take my sense of smell to the bank. But I think I can. I told a few people I thought the shareholder party would be in Vegas the last weekend in October since the CMKX racecar will be there that week and it is the penultimate race. Love that word. Winsome-You probably use that word often. Anyway, I seriously doubt that UC and company want to get together with a bunch of bummed out people who feel scammed. I do think that people party when they have something to celebrate. Roger Glenn and the various mining partners are meeting this week. No offical announcement of a merger, contracts or another dividend yet, but we do get the date of the party. From UC and UCAD late last night. Some will think I am reading too much into this. They could be right. I am going with my gut. It only steers me wrong when cinnamon rolls or ice cream are involved. This is IMOO and I may moo or crow soon (possibly eat crow but doubt it). Have a green day and God Bless us everyone. -Debi
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Just how verifiable is this post from UC about the party?

pe·nul·ti·mate
adj.
1. Next to last.
2. Linguistics Of or relating to the penult of a word: penultimate stress.
n.
The next to the last.


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OK
Last reported A/S=500B
Retired(Noah8/3-15:06)=57b
UC Restricted=.6b 4/15/03
442b seems a good number
Authorized - Retired - Insiders=Float
Conducting of business with a sahreholder meeting requires 51% reportable when doing business with listed company.
Treasury shares carry no voting rights or receive dividends, so the 57b don't count, but we know where they are. I do not recall that UC gave up voting rights on his restricted only trading & dividends.
This tells me that:
A/S=500b
O/S=442b
INSIDERS=251b
FLOAT=442b-INSIDERS(251b)-RESTRICTED(.6b)
DIVIDENDshr=442 Payable to
VAN

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Yep, bought more.
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O/S will be alot lower then most people think. The reason I say this is because, this company future depends on the O/S.

Lets say the Joel number is correct...just to illustrate my point. 400 Billion share O/S could have been bought for and avg price of lets say 0.0003. So.... 400+09 * 0.0003 = $120,000,000. Some shares could have been bought for less and some could have been bought for more. Remember that CMKX was sitting at 0.0001 for quite a long time..but anyway back to the point.

The point is CMKX has $52,500,000 on "average" in the bank. Refering to the UCAD dividend of the 7.5 Million shares.

So...here is the common sense point....why would CMKX distribute the 7.5 million shares to it's shareholders of say 400 Billion shares...that would come out to NOTHING.

Or here the important point take that $52,500,000 and at an avg. price of 0.0003 retire back to the TREASURY more then 175 BILLION shares on average. You see they could retire almost 1/2 the O/S just from this dividend ALONE.

Now we all know that CMKX was in a BUY back long before the UCAD dividend was announced. So I think the O/S is going to SURPRISE many people who think the O/S is HUGE..."it's NOT


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If the OTC BB report is false, it is sure getting around. Pink Sheets below, reporting the .0000155 dividend.


CMKX -- CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (NV)
Com ($0.0001)

Address:
c/o Melvin O'Neil
P.O. Box 3655
Melfort
SK SOE 1AO
Canada
Phone: 306-752-3755
Company Website: http://www.casavantmining.com

Officers:
Urban Casavant, Pres. & CEO; David DeSormeau, CFO

Current Capital Change:
shs increased by 2 for 1 split
Ex-Date: 2003-09-30
Record Date: 2003-09-12
Pay Date: 2003-09-29

Dividends:
Amount: Div: 0.0000155 restricted sh US Canadian Minerals, Inc. for each sh held
Pay Date: 2004-09-24
Record Date: 2004-08-20

State of Incorporation: NV

Company Notes:
Note=4-02 State of Incorporation Delaware changed to Nevada
Formerly=Cyber Mark International Corp. until 1-03
Formerly=Casavant Mining Kimberlite International, Inc. until 3-04


Class Notes:
Cap. Change=shs increased by 2 for 1 split. Ex-date=08-28-00. Rec. date=08-11-00. Pay. date=08-25-00.
Capital Change=shs increased by 10 for 1 split. Ex-date=08/17/2001. Rec date=07/19/2001. Pay date=08/16/2001.


Transfer Agents:
1st Global Stock Transfer LLC, Las Vegas, NV 89128



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You just don't know what to believe.

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Posted by: Diamond_cat
In reply to: None Date:8/3/2004 2:08:04 PM
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IMPORTANT..THAT OTCBB DATA OF 483B IS FALSE AND

WAS SUBMITTED TO THEM BY SOME CROOKED MM'S.THIS WAS CONFIEMED BY MELVIN AND UC ..WE WERR ASKED NOT TO BELIEVE THAT UNLESS IT COMES IN THE FORM OF A PR OR SEC FILINGS.

NOTE..MANY EVIL FORCES ARE NOW TRYING TO DISRUPT THE PEACEFUL PROCESS OF CMKX FULLY REPORTING.
http://cmkx.********s35.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&num=1091557192&st art=15

Originally on at http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=3719035

Posted by: m-ojo
In reply to: Diamond_cat who wrote msg# 69467 Date:8/3/2004 2:12:47 PM
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re:IMPORTANT..THAT OTCBB DATA OF 483B IS FALSE AND

didn't that also happen with our last TA? I recall reading that they recieved a fake "official" document with the OS of 400B, and that's what they went with.

what a soap opera

m-ojo
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=3719086

This one too:

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On pal6talk today

Dugg called OTCBB and had them look up the actual notice sent to them. They said that the numbers were given to them by a "D R Glenn". Dugg contacted Melvin whom inturn contacted UC. Dugg was told that the PR was untrue and that they (anybody from CMKX or Glenn's office) did not give that info out. Also, they appear to be "pissed" off about it.

This what I heard on Pal talk FWIW.
http://www.cmkx.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1506

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03 Aug 2004, 04:07 PM EDT
Msg. 443454 of 443460
(This msg. is a reply to 443437 by careful-investor8.)
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careful-investor...my understanding is that the lasdy at otcbb claims the info was given to her by a "D.R. Glenn"...this is complete b.s. Roger, UC, and Melvin have been contacted...and the quote we were given from melvin..."heads are going to be rolling" or something to that vibe...GLTY
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKX&read=443454

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Re: Where is the PR stating the OS?
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Do you really think an official PR from D. Roger Glenn would have been signed as D.R. Glenn. He is much more professional than that and imho I do not think that UC and Roger would not inform us (his loyal) shareholders through second hand information.

We have been through this before. MM's are playing dirty and now it is time for the gloves to come off!
GET EM UC!!!!!

Vibe http://cmkx.********s35.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1091564846

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The number has to be correct. It's been out there for at least three days now. Don't you think that if it were false someone from the company would have raised holy he// by now, demanded a retraction, and issued a p/r stating emphatically that it was false? Their silence speaks volumes.
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I am sorry daronov but looks like you just advertising this site on all threads. Please stick with the topic: CMKX. Also I don't have anything against qbid, but something about the pictures on qbid site give me goose bumps IMO

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On 4/15/03 UC entered into a three year restriction agreement, that included the inability to pledge or transfer (art.1) those shares.
A recent PR said(i Haven't found it yet) that he did pledge some shares!
Any comments?
VAN

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Upside,

This number can't be correct and this is why.
Nevada law states that the board of directors must have a vote of 51% of share holder or holders to bind the company to any "deal" therefore IF we issued all 500bil shares allowed by law (Nevada) we already retired shares to the treasure last year(per PR)I think the number of 483bil is total shares issued BEFORE calculating at least 51% owned by UC/UCAD etc. (which according to UC will not recieve ANY dividend) per PR again.
Look at it now: 483bil*51%=246.33bil
246.33bil-483bil=236.67bil
236.67bil-75bil(last deal)=161.67bil
now before you all start this is just rough math so what Iam trying to point out is the div, will issued on a number lower than 200bil. Just my opinion


Therefore the dividend that we will see soon will not be based on 483 or 500 bil.per th otcb.

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What are we supposed to believe? Most of you know me and I will say what I believe. I have contacted both the OTCBB and the Pink Sheets and they have verified the information came through normal reporting channels from D R Glenn. I have complete confidence in Urban and D. Roger Glenn but that doesn't require me to suspect that someone has hacked into OTCBB and PinkSheets and made a post and then informed OTCBB and Pink SHeets that it is authentic from D R Glenn. Or even that someone has faked a letter from D R Glenn to the OTCBB and Pink Sheets about this information. If it is false it doesn't take 2 minutes to pick up the phone and give an official statement that recent postings by the OTCBB and the Pink Sheets on the UCAD dividend information is false and not to be relied upon.

This is a circus of speculation with people expecting us to believe their speculation that the OTCBB and Pink Sheets info on the dividend is a lie and mere speculation itself. It doesn’t matter what investor or how well you respect them the OTCBB and Pink Sheet information needs to be given more weight of credibility.

I have seen comparisons of incorrect O/S for CMKX and this means that the dividend info is wrong or can be wrong. The O/S mentioned on these sites probably were right at one time or the other. This recent posting of the dividend breakdown of UCAD shares is much different than any O/S mentions for CMKX by Nasdaq because of the relevant nature of the recent posting.

Most Nasdaq O/S levels are out of date, but the recent postings for share dividends to investors are precise. If not, let us pull some examples of false share dividend announcements for companies by the OTCBB and the Pink Sheets and stop using other collateral data such as an incorrect O/S to try and make a point.

Am I saying that the information can not be false? NO, that is not what I am saying. I am saying that if they are false the company is the only one that can officially declare that and they haven’t. Personally I believe the link could be real as OTCBB and now Pink Sheets has confirmed that it is real. I cannot see OTCBB and Pink Sheets in collusion with a few MM's to make CMKX look bad. Plus, we do understand that UCAD has an obligation because of their “reporting” status to make some of these facts known or violate regulations.

What doesn't make sense to me is why CMKX and D Roger Glenn would make this announcement and UCAD didn't make the anouncement. Now that is weird to me. So lets take that into consideration when we are having difficulty believing the info is accurate, but lets not get stupid.

I think most of us feel really silly trying to discredit a confirmed posting by the OTCBB and Pink Sheets although it seems that with CMKX we truly need to do this very thing since we can’t seem to get an official reply from CMKX. We know that there is a conspiracy against CMKX by the MM's, some brokerage firms, and possibly other parties but it is really hard to believe that the OTCBB and Pink Sheets are in on it.

I understand the reports that D. Roger Glenn, Urban, and Melvin have been contacted and they are really pissed about it and deny that it is true. I’m sure they can understand how we feel about it and in understanding our dilemma should respond to take away the confusion. Not necessarily giving us the O/S, as they obviously are guarding that, but to at least deny the authenticity of the OTCBB and the Pink Sheets information. I for one will not hold my breath for the response. True that the information at OTCBB and Pink Sheets is not a PR or an SEC report, but come on people are we supposed to throw our brain away just because we have no PR? I for one, will not. If this were a forum post or a paid announcement it would be different. This is a legitimate market/board announcing dividend details according to regulations.

I remember, as I’m sure most here do, the presumed negative announcement of Carolyn's diamond content in the first samples that were never announced by CMKX, but it came through a JV partner. We still have not had a PR clarifying or refuting the contents of that PR. Too, we never got a PR or official statement from the company refuting the Pacific Stock Transfer leak of 400 billion O/S a month ago. If the O/S is huge these leaks may be the only announcement we get until D. Roger Glenn and Urban manage to shrink it dramatically by any number of means. If you consider the leak that came through Pacific Stock Transfer as being 400 Billion and add our most recent acquisitions through shares (110 billion – 40 billion from Urban = 70 billion to UCAD and Nevada Minerals) then out O/S could reasonably be 470 or the calculated 483 billion from the OTCBB and Pink Sheets information.

As much as none of us care for a huge O/S it is a good possibility that we may have one to the tune of 483 billion+ which could be another reason Urban kicked in 40 billion of his own shares so the A/S of 500 billion wouldn't be exceeded and at the same time he could get a 50% take on the profits if and when profit is made from the 500,000 acres of Fort a la Corne properties from Nevada Minerals.

I too, agree that just because Urban doesn't get the dividend on the 40 billion he gave up doesn't mean UCAD or Nevada Minerals will not get them. Why would anyone think that a dividend wouldn't be paid on the traded shares?

In any case I still believe we are in a very good position. I have complete and total confidence in what D. Roger Glenn and Urban are doing with CMKX and we will be pleased to see the end results in my opinion.

So we may have a huge O/S. Big Deal. Not what we may have wanted, but as we reach “fully reporting” status this information should be made known and open for all to see.

It can be a little trying to figure out how we got from 37 billion in 21 Feb 2004 to a possible 483 billion with investor income flowing in during that same period of time, but lets keep the faith and keep our eyes peeled for a PR that can maybe settle these issues. Remember most of our calculations on the intrinsic value and potential for CMKX were calculated on the 500 billion A/S in the first place. Many joked that it was unrealistic, but it is interesting that no one is laughing now.

CMKX is still the play of a lifetime even if we have 483 billion O/S. Melvin said retirement is continuing and I believe it is. We simply made some acquisitions that has pushed the O/S up and I believe it will come back down.

Please don't be offended at my opinion. It is just an opinion and everyone has one. I try to be a little realistic when it comes to facts posted by the company or a reporting agency like UCAD and the OTCBB.

Stay long and strong for I still believe Success is ours. And if Urban you or Roger are out their listening, we could use some clarification if this information is wrong. TIA!

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Quote: "Stay long and strong for I still believe Success is ours. And if Urban you or Roger are out their listening, we could use some clarification if this information is wrong. TIA!"

If they released the PR when shutting down the message board, they can also release pr for this rumor - if we don't get one, then we don't have a choice and assume that info on the pinksheets is correct.


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Noah -Good post from Dr. D. I am expecting the share structure to be good when announced. I don't know how that will be accomplished. I do know that this stock had or has a huge Naked short. I do give credence to some of the shares used to buy some of these mining claims and deals as having been naked shorted shares which UC purchased at .0001 and now are being retired as these companies sell them at .0004. I don't know that this is the case but it does make sense that the company would benefit, the MM's would benefit, the shareholders benefit and the partners who get a great cash infusion also benefit. Other than that the sitting at .0004 for so long doesn't make sense unless you think CMKX was just flooding the market with shares. I don't think that is it. We have Roger Glenn as a legal eagle helping put together whatever is ultimately done. I do not think a 500 Billion share company at .0004 is the plan. I don't think a 500 Billion share company with a stock price of .0004 will be having a party. A wake maybe. I did buy another 2 Million today and edging up on 50 Million now. With the date of the dividends and the party announced and out there I am expecting good news. Definitely IMO-Debi
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"...and edging up on 50 Million now"

Debi God bless you! Like I said this is not end of the story, we are probably not even close to the climex. Hope you get your returns soon, and I think you will.


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I'll ask this again:

Just how verifiable is the post from UC about the party?


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Thanks, TT. It sounded a tad bit bogus.
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Sterling was just on PalTalk and announced that he and Melvin had cleared Melvins appearances on Paltalk with the SEC. So it looks like he might be coming back online. Unfortunately, Sterling did not discuss the OS situation or whether he had talked to Melvin about that.
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quote:
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there is a good reason for that---the guy who started that board poached his startup list of people right here....after the board was up and running this board SUDDENLY had a huge influx of extremely rude posters---i don't believe in coincidences.....

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sorry excuse my profanities. i know nothing about the rude posters. why censor the word dance/s tho?
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One advantage of 483 O/S is, there is no chance that CMKX can increase further . May be up to 500B not more than that (if the rumour of a max 500B A/S is true).

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quote:
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sorry excuse my profanities. i know nothing about the rude posters. why censor the word dance/s tho?

it's part of the name of the other site.


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quote:
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Sterling was just on PalTalk and announced that he and Melvin had cleared Melvins appearances on Paltalk with the SEC. So it looks like he might be coming back online. Unfortunately, Sterling did not discuss the OS situation or whether he had talked to Melvin about that.

I don't think melvin needs to be on paltalk, i enjoyed listening to him once and a while on there, but frankly am sick of the people there. Not exactly a great resource for good information, as they all are just sterlings followers.

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quote:
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Is dividend info to be believed?
« Thread started on: Today at 11:06am »


FINALLY. Someone with a little common sense! I think Dr. D has gotten it right. The only thing I can add at this time is there seems to be an awful lot of money being passed around. I wonder if CMKX got a lot of it by dummping shares? This could help explain the run up in O/S shares to the 400B level.

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Hey guys!

I changed mu purchase order from 666k at .0003 to 500k at .0004 it filled it like twelve seconds... lol!!!

Sooooo now I officially have 3.5 million shares Muwahahahahah not the most but for me its a real plus up, espically when I thought I had alot of shares of Qbid,lol (1.1 Million)

I feel all 'cool' and like a power player, sadly I am neither muwahahahah lol....

I had to secure a position, now that I bought at .0004 .0003 fills will go through, so you have me to thank if that happens,haha...

Pharm, Wizardress (all knowing and powerful), noah, teentrader, Money P (whats up P money?!?!?) Stoned, WWJD and if I forget any other stock buddies, Muwahhhhhh

CMKX= Crack Cocaine lol... I am spending all my money on it, I can't stop!!!lol...

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Wizardress wrote:

"we are probably not even close to the climex"


Naughty, naughty girl

-John-


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Melvin was just on PalTalk and said he will be returning to PalTalk after market close. He said he will probably be there today about 5 or 10 minutes after close. Maybe he will address the OS then. I'll be monitoring it and report back.
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Sounds Good noah Thanks...

Where would I find Paltalk? Is it a radio-show type website? Thanks...

Gator Man I forgot a shout out to you too

Hmmmmm so the party is a deffinant? Halloween in Vegas?!?

Okay okay, who's going to room with me?lol... I warn you I fart and snoar in my sleep (j/k!!)

-John-


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quote:
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Wizardress wrote:

"we are probably not even close to the climex"


Naughty, naughty girl

-John-


Ohhhh yeahhhh


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quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
Sounds Good noah Thanks...

Where would I find Paltalk? Is it a radio-show type website? Thanks...

Gator Man I forgot a shout out to you too

Hmmmmm so the party is a deffinant? Halloween in Vegas?!?

Okay okay, who's going to room with me?lol... I warn you I fart and snoar in my sleep (j/k!!)

-John-


John - kind of moody day behind the window of my office room - after your funny lines - not anymore....


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quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
Sounds Good noah Thanks...

Where would I find Paltalk? Is it a radio-show type website? Thanks...

Gator Man I forgot a shout out to you too

Hmmmmm so the party is a deffinant? Halloween in Vegas?!?

Okay okay, who's going to room with me?lol... I warn you I fart and snoar in my sleep (j/k!!)

-John-



JB PalTalk is an online discussion group. People with microphones on their computer can speak, ask questions, etc. Written questions and responses also scroll across your screen, so you don't have to have a microphone to communicate.


Once you have the download, click it on and when it all opens up, go to the groups window and look for "premium finance"...then click on Sterling's classroom...password = CMKX!


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Winsome -Didn't know the answer to your question and didn't have time to get to it. Hired a new person to do booking and marketing and I am up to my eyeballs sending out promo kits. A nice problem to have. But I am not doing stocks or promo very well-too distracted bouncing back and forth.

Tic Toc -Thanks -great post about the party. I am disappointed but who knows that may yet be in the cards. I will only be going if this the real deal -to shmooze with the recently cash infused. I understand your ? about the other poster who started the other stock board. The first name of his board is the word that gets starred out. I would probably be blot out the site name of anyone who did that to me too.

GLTA-Keep up the DD especially with all the baloney posts-sorry for posting the party-I thought it was a go-the contact person was at UCAD. IMO-Still long and Strong-Debi


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The Wizardress of Naughtyness wrote:

"John - kind of moody day behind the window of my office room - after your funny lines - not anymore.... "


At least you have windows The office where I work has beautiful, beautiful walls!lol...

I am glad I can bring a smile as we are all stuck in captivity until 4 or 5 pm...

Ohhh well...

However I work in NYC and at 2:45 pm I get to take the checks to the bank so I get to walk outside, view a sea of beautiful, beautiful women and get some fresh air... so its not bad at all.

-John-


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