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Debbi, YOU are not part of the problem, the rude treatment is not here because ALLSTOCKS deleted most of it. I wish every investor/trader well. and i wish you well in particular. i have read dozens of your posts and think very highly of the ethical standards you profess. it always pains me about posting negative stuff, as i have pointed out to you in the past---primarily cuz PPS doesn't always reflect value and that is where the opportunities are....the divivdends in UCAD look like they are being issued to maintain/encourage a long-term hold here....the companies(UCAD) filings show that most of the common stock is held by some non-reporting companies.this means there is no way to tell who really holds the majority of the common shares--this is a typical ploy in shell games. as a matter of fact the stock patrol report was generated by reading the SEC filings, as i have, and i came to the same conclusion independantly.....that's all i was saying.....


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Hi Glassman -Thanks= I am not on here all the time so many posts are edited by the time I read them. You have a very reasonable way of expressing your concerns in any given stock and people who want to be aware of all the facts will always welcome postss like that. Upside is another who brings opinions backed up by substance and posts in a way that someone looking for available information feels comfortable considering. One of the problems with message boards is the bashers (and the pumpers). Not everyone pro or con in a given stock is either of those. But there is a familiar style to both types of posters. People who spew out negative information in a hostile way are under suspicion. I don't like pumpers. I go on the famous pumper board raging baloney. I am level_field4all there. There was someone pumping BIBO saying level 2 is building this is going to fly today. I looked at level 2 and the only way that puppy was moving was down. I called him on it and there was a little team of them every day the same thing. Now the stock is around .0033. I remember posting about their financing deal way back when. That stock had been up to a quarter and the company was a good company. Your point about stocks being sold to raise money is valid. Unfortunately the only one who was successful in that transaction appears to be the equity financiers who plundered the company and the investors. Will the company be able to make it? Historically, probably not.

So, I am overall kind of disgusted with the OTC and pink markets in general. One of the reasons I like this stock is I think they are addressing the Naked Short problem they had and possibly still have, plus any other credibility issues. I can understand taking yourself off of reporting status and buying time to put some deals together. Especially given the secrecy of the diamond and mineral exploration world. It does make DD almost impossible though. It comes down to how do you read the PR's, the mineral content of the land in the area -given all the available information known so far, and how do you read the character of the characters involved. They are characters too. Huge divergences of opinions all based on the same information. So I have to go with my ability to read people and situations accurately, filtered thru everything I know about the stock market and go with my instincts. I can be wishy, washy about a lot of stocks. I have never had this much of any stock. I feel very confident with what I have purchased and will probably be buying some more.

This is definitely a high risk stock. It is not for everyone. I have a huge tolerance for risk but I can't break my bones buying stock. Beats bungee jumping or hang gliding. I am not cavalier about money though and would not invest in this if I thought I would lose it. I guess I am trying to communicate to others that I acknowledge the high risk, am responsible with money and still am proceeding to buy stock in CMKX. I have 49+ Million shares now and I wish I bought them at .0001. I need to go to a concert now. The first time it was run to feed the band. Now they are playing. The Band is Raging Grace. They are very good.
IMO-DD-Debi


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You are not somebody who left, came back with a different name. Are you?

quote:
Originally posted by Royals:
Bill, Totally agree. The more I research this company the worse it gets. Juina was in litigation,Yellow river going broke. Several of are so called partners were previously in the food industry and went broke there. I'll leave the few dollars I have in this stock just in case but the history of Casavant is terrible.


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Jeff Jokes from another site:

**JEFF JOKE**

Top 8 Signs when Market Maker JEFF is Affected by the CMKX BOMB!


"Jeff can't come to the phone right now..he's on the ledge."


"Jeff won't be in today...he was made an offer and he refused."


"Jeff left the building and not via the elevator..if you catch my drift."


"Jeff is on another line with his Mommy..would you care to hold?"


"No sir, that wasn't Jeff streaking naked through the Stock Exchange"


"JEff is meeting with the SEC as we speak."


"I'm sorry, ma'am but that was Jeff being led from the Stock Exchange naked except for the cmkx tickets stuck to his body via maple syrup."


"Yes sir, that is Jeff in the White Bronco leading the cops down the freeway."

KARBIN



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I don't think CMKX sent the Christian Traders the first one. I think CT just made it up. Especially since it says the stock symbol wrong. I think this is very funny either way. I think the technology for some of these things is great. Like to own stock in the tech involved. Turn on your sound first. -Debi

To get the drift of this CT of Christian traders has been trying to get an interview with Melvin or UC for a while now. CT asked Melvin on Paltalk the other day a question about setting up a meeting and didn't get an answer. Then I saw this post today.

We've been contacted.
hope you're ready for this:
http://christiantraders.com/warning.html

CT

The response

For the record, I have issued the following official response.
http://christiantraders.com/response.html

Hope you enjoy this. -Debi

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Lol... Yeah it took me a few minutes to get it... lol...

My Yoda... I miss those days.

So how is everyone?

-John-

My neogbor/friend is buying into CMKX, a small amount, like perhaps 60k shares. I think he will have the account ready by Tuesday.

I talked my sister into opening a trading account up for my nephew who is eight, going on nine. I figure by Friday the account can be funded

We are planning to teach him early and at the same time give him a head start!

-John-


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Hi John, It is down to the wires on this one. I am looking forward to this very much. I don't think any one knows how it will ultimately play out. I think it will be great but we will see. I am turning the computer off. I have been glued to the screen too much. Good night. -Debi
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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
I'm not a securities lawyer, i'm just an investor and i noticed these things.... and a WHOLE LOT more........every time i come down here to post i get treated very rudely tho.......
ever seen Boiler Room?????

Don't worry old buddy, I've got your back.
The only reason CMKX/ CMKM/ CMKI had a moderate run was because they switched transfer agents (involuntarily). This stemmed the flow of certificates to the MM's briefly. They now have a new transfer agent and are in the midst of generating "all new" rumors to lure the naive intoforking over their money so UC can buy another funny car.


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DQR!!!!
Welcome back good sir! Havn't seen you around since the Baaaaaaart days!

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quote:
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DQR!!!!
Welcome back good sir! Havn't seen you around since the Baaaaaaart days!

Hey Upside, good to see you are still around.
I've been taking a break for the summer. Market is taking a breather before it's next run, so I figured what better time to relax.
what ever happened to poor Baaa'aaart? I heard he got baaaa'aaaanned.


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I think our friend Pharm was instrumental in getting him baaaaaanned. I have to admit that I miss him. He truly was a non stop source of amusement!
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Bummer--- i was waiting for the end of the year to remind Bart about the IBZT bet he wanted to make with me and PG---he wanted to bet either of us a thousand dollars that IBZT would hit .30$-----oh well.....
this UCAD deal has more twists in it than a can of canadian nightcrawlers..LOL...

i'm surprised nobody has thought about the implications of CMKX selling off 5% of its assets to UCAD. which 5% are they selling......it doesn't say how the deal is structured in the SEC filings...


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LOL. The evil forces are strengthening. The death star is fully manned. First "Up Vader" and "Will the Hutt", and now "DiQuiGreedo" and "Glassgano". Looks like they're getting ready to attack the CMKX solar system in full force. "John Skywalker" and "Han (Stoned) Solo", where are you, we need your help! ("Obi-Pharm Kenobie", we need you, too!).

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quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
LOL. The evil forces are strengthening. The death star is fully manned. First "Up Vader" and "Will the Hutt", and now "DiQuiGreedo" and "Glassgano". Looks like they're getting ready to attack the CMKX solar system in full force. "John Skywalker" and "Han (Stoned) Solo", where are you, we need your help! ("Obi-Pharm Kenobie", we need you, too!).

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Hey pal how about growing up and quit playing with dolls. Give me some positve facts on this stock. How about the low down on UC's history of running a revenue producing company? Tell me what he's doing with the shareholders money other than giving it to his family and race car team. Has he bought a new drilling rig yet. What's that...he's not even drilling? Maybe you should go back to playing with your G.I. Joe's and Barbie's. CMKX will be pulling this scam for a while.


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QUOTE]Hey pal how about growing up and quit playing with dolls. Give me some positve facts on this stock. How about the low down on UC's history of running a revenue producing company? Tell me what he's doing with the shareholders money other than giving it to his family and race car team. Has he bought a new drilling rig yet. What's that...he's not even drilling? Maybe you should go back to playing with your G.I. Joe's and Barbie's. CMKX will be pulling this scam for a while.

[/B][/QUOTE]I dont post much because I am
fairly new to penny stocks. I try to read
post and learn. From what I have read of
your post and seeing the one you Stared
today titled wallce. I can only come to one
conclusion from what I have learned from
others post. IMO you are a basher. I am strong In cmkx based on the DD


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quote:
Originally posted by lbulbu:

QUOTE]Hey pal how about growing up and quit playing with dolls. Give me some positve facts on this stock. How about the low down on UC's history of running a revenue producing company? Tell me what he's doing with the shareholders money other than giving it to his family and race car team. Has he bought a new drilling rig yet. What's that...he's not even drilling? Maybe you should go back to playing with your G.I. Joe's and Barbie's. CMKX will be pulling this scam for a while.


I dont post much because I am
fairly new to penny stocks. I try to read
post and learn. From what I have read of
your post and seeing the one you Stared
today titled wallce. I can only come to one
conclusion from what I have learned from
others post. IMO you are a basher. I am strong In cmkx based on the DD
Meathead..give me some DD facts then. And I mean FACTS.
[/B][/QUOTE]


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Hi Ibulbu -You may be new to investing but you sure know how to read a basher. Right on. New member heads straight to the CMKX board and starts talking garbage about no DD. The DD has been put up on this site for the last 4 months. We have tons of Press releases and research.

There are areas that need to be addressed by CMKX but they are obviously working on them. They have a quality law firm and lawyer known for his personal integrity. Roger Glenn formerly worked for the SEC.

Here is the DD links for the lawyer Roger Glenn and his law firm. Then browse through the Sarbanes Oxley act. This piece of legislation was drafted by Roger Glenn. Follow these links to a book appropriately titled Corporate Responsibility in 2003 bt Roger Glenn. Every thing the man and his law firm does shines with integrity. This man would not be part of a scam. His integrity is beyond reproach but many of the posters here whose only purpose is to bash have not earned that same level of trust.

The firm’s website is at http://www.EdwardsAngell.com.


http://capitalmarkets.rrdonnelley.com/download/refpubs/Corporate_Responsibilities/38331.htm

Introduction
3

The Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002
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Prohibition on Loans to Directors and Executive Officers
4
New Standards for Audit Committees
5
Requirement for Disclosure Controls and Procedures and Internal Controls for Financial Reporting
8
Rules for Disclosing Non-GAAP Information
9
Disclosure of Off-Balance Sheet Financing
14
Code of Ethics
16
Liability for Improper Influence on the Conduct of Audits
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Forfeiture of Bonuses and Profits in the Event of a Restatement
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Officer and Director Bars and Penalties
17
Whistleblower Protections
17
Other Protections
18

Listing Requirements
19
New York Stock Exchange
19
Nasdaq
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Conducting Board Meetings
23

Disclosing Non-Public Information
25
The Pre-Regulation FD Framework
25
Regulation FD Framework
25
Practices and Practical Considerations to Comply with Regulation FD
27
The Consequences of Violating Regulation FD
28

Periodic Reporting
32
Annual Report on Form 10-K
32
Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q
33
Certification of Annual and Quarterly Reports
33
Current Report on Form 8-K
36
The Proxy Rules
37

Reporting and Other Obligations of Stockholders and Insiders
43
Section 13 of the Exchange Act
43
Section 16 of the Exchange Act
43

Trading In Stock
46
Trading on Material Non-Public Information
46
Penalties for Securities Fraud
47
Trading Windows
47
Trading During Pension Plan Blackouts
48
Resales of Restricted Shares
50
Stock Repurchases by a Company and its Affiliates
51
The second link brings you to the legislation and the book and if anyone really wants to find out about this lawyer this is the DD.
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I am not trying to imply that respected posters with differences of opinions are bashers. There are some new faces here coming in for the sole purpose of bashing this stock and this company. Given the fact that this stock is very strongly rumored to be Naked shorted to the extreme; I find it reassuring that bashers are arriving just in time to attempt to shake out shares that the MM's need to cover their short. Why now? Why bash a .0004 stock? I know why. It is not a coincindence in my opinion. It is a desperate last minute attempt to save their behinds. Seeing them here makes me want to buy more stock. Maybe they are pumpers. They bash the stock so we are convinced to buy more. If they really want to save us from buying CMKX they should leave.

That is my opinion and I sure hope they take it to heart. If you really don't want us to buy CMKX don't bash or we will think it is more valuable. Why would your bosses pay you to bash something if it wouldn't make or save them money? GLTA-DD-IMO-Debi

Document Retention and Destruction
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When the Duty to Preserve Documents Arises
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Materials that Must be Preserved
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Civil and Criminal Penalties for Destroying Documents that Should have Been Retained
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Exhibit A—Sample disclosure controls and procedures
A-1
Exhibit B—Sample code of business conduct and ethics
B-1
Exhibit C—Sample audit committee charter
C-1
Exhibit D—Sample nominating and corporate governance committee charter
D-1
Exhibit E—Sample compensation and benefits committee charter
E-1
Exhibit F—Sample corporate governance guidelines
F-1
Exhibit G—Sample general statement of policy on disclosures
G-1
Exhibit H—Sample disclosure policy and Regulation FD
H-1
Exhibit I—Sample Section 16(a) memorandum for directors and executive officers
I-1


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Here are the official press releases the company has put out over the last 21 months or so. You can read them at the offical pink sheets site.

July/26 - CMKM Diamonds Inc. Acquires Additional Interests in Saskatchewan http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040726/266016_1.html
July/20 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc., to invest in Casavant International Mining, Inc. Declares Dividend For Shareholders http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040719/196042_1.html
July/18 - CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces Dividend to Shareholders of Record Date and Option Agreement http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040718/185046_1.html
July/04 - CMKM Diamonds Inc. Launches National Television Exposure and Awareness Campaign http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040714/145916_1.html
July/04 - CMKM Diamonds Inc. Has Re-engaged 1st Global Stock Transfer, LLC.
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces New Transfer Agent
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Preliminary Results from Goldak Airborne Magnetic Survey of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Message Board Has Been Temporarily Discontinued
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Edwards & Angell, LLP. and CMKM Diamonds Inc. Begin Work
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces "Carolyn Pipe" Lab Results Confirm Diamondiferous Kimberlite
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces It Has Retained D. Roger Glenn, Partner at Edwards & Angell, LLP as Securities Counsel
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces It is Retaining a Large New York Law Firm to Represent Its Interests.
June/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces the Cancellation of the MRDR Transaction, Internal Audit and Move to New Transfer Agent.
May/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Phase #1 Drilling of Carolyn Pipe completed.
Apr/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Drilling up-date: Carolyn pipe core samples sent away for analysis: ETA on results 3 - 6 weeks
Apr/04 - U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. Announces Intersection of Kimberlitic Rock.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces 'Carolyn Pipe' at 900+ Feet and Still in Kimberlite.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Kimberlite Ore Discovery
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Drilling Video Footage Now Available on the Company Web Site.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Joint Venture Option Agreement With United Carina Resources Corp. and Consolidated Pine Channel Gold Corp.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Progress on Drilling and Exploration Program.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces That Drilling Has Commenced Two Days Ahead of Schedule in the Fort a la Corne Area.
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Drilling Program to Commence in the Fort a la Corne Area on Wednesday, March 17, 2004
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds Inc., Formerly Casavant Mining Kimberlite International, Announces New Symbol: CMKX
Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Assignment of New CUSIP Number
Feb/04 - U.S. Canadian Minerals Inc. & CMKM Diamonds Inc. Announces Joint Venture.
Feb/04 - CMKM is featured in a newspaper article in the Prince Albert Herald.
Feb/04 - CMKM announces the company has obtained funding for US $1.8 million with a further pledge for US 3.2 million.
Feb/04 - CMKM announces drilling program to commence.
Jan/04 - CMKM announces purchase of drill rig, accessories, and extra equipment for drilling. Company Signs One Year Contract With Experienced Drill Foreman to Oversee Drill Operation. Program - Commits to Drilling Numerous Holes in Search Of Kimberlite Pipes in the Forte a la Corne Area and Green Lake Area
Jan/04 - CMKM announces MRDR share exchange and spin out of CIM subsidiary has been approved. Date of record will be January 30, 2004.
Jan/04 - CMKM announced that the Green Lake drill target is now suitable for drilling.
Dec/03 - CMKM announced the company is evaluating two offers from public companies for a partial buyout of selected mining claims.
Dec/03 - CMKM announced CIM spin-out to go public is being evaluated with MRDR, a public shell company listed on the Pink Sheets. Anticipated completion date is Jan. 15/04.
Dec/03 - CMKM announces that targets have been selected to commence drilling on Green Lake and Forte a la Corne.
Dec/03 - CMKM announces 16.5 billion shares officially retired to treasury.
Dec/03 - CMKM announces that spin-out company, Casavant Mining Int. will go public.
Nov/03 - CMKM announces 900,000 dollar joint venture funding contracts with 3 public companies. The three companies contracts that were consummated are: Consolidated Pine Channel Gold (CDNX-KPG-V), Shane Resources (CDNX-SEI-V), and United Carina Resources (CDNX-UCA-V). The agreement is that these companies now have the right to acquire an undivided 10% interest each in 82 prospective claims held by CMKM in consideration for 900,000 dollars in funding.
Nov/03 - CMKM announces over twenty billion shares have been retired back to treasury to date.
Sept/03 - CMKM announces six billion shares are being retired back to treasury.
Sept/03 - CMKM launches corporate website http://www.casavantmining.com
Aug/03 - CMKM announces three million dollar exploration and drilliing program with Durama Enterprises Ltd.
Aug/03 - CMKM announces share dividend payout for CMI.
Aug/03 - CMKM announces 2 for 1 foward stock split.
Jul/03 - CMKM files "Certification and Notice of Termination of Registration" Form 15-12G with SEC. CMKM becomes a non-reporting company.
Apr/03 - CMKM Announces Initial Report on Exploration Project at Fort a la Corne, Saskatchewan.
Feb/03 - CMKM files "Definitive Information Statement" Form 14C with SEC.
Jan/03 - Casavant Mining obtains trading symbol CMKM on OTCBB
Nov/02 - Casavant Mining merges with Cyber Mark International
CMKX HIGHLIGHTS:


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You wasted space with you response. I don't need to know about the lawyer. Actually there the only reason I hold hope for this company. Tell me about UC! Has he done good by previous shareholders? No, he hasn't. Do your DD. The PR's that have come out...give me a break. Where is the O/S? The shares of UCAD? Restricted. Why? What happened to Melvin's St. Helen's, his knee's trembling. All the good that was coming SOON! Oh wait, that was very SOON. Come back to reality.
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Right on WWJD. The bashers are out in full force. Oh, they say how much they think this company will do well, then, comment on the accused ineptitudes. They start a post on how long and strong they are, then they make deep, unsubstantiated accusations and remarks. They say how new they are to posting, yet know their way around a site. Don't be fooled people. Don't listen to anyone that doesn't have the facts.


Fact, we have diamonds (just how much we will know for sure, soon).

Fact, we are going to be drilling soon (The permits are completed).

Fact, we have the finest legal representation available (this Glenn guy is for real).

Fact, Our outstanding share total is unknown..and this is important (we will get info on that soon, that's for sure).

Fact, this stock is way undervalued, even at the current guesses of 483 billion shares out.

Fact, The powers that be are proven deal makers, proven caring people and proven intelligent decision makers (check out the PRs from above posts).

Fact, Three dividends are committed to this stock (the values and amounts are still questioned).

Fact, This is a long term stock, not a get rich quick stock (although some will make good money and run) God bless them but we will see them later.

Fact, There are some unknowns that the powers that be are keeping tight to the chest(the poker hand should not be shown until we're called).

There are many facts that make this the buy of a lifetime IMO. I'm holding long and strong. I will try to be strong. I honestly believe this is going to be fun. Hell, it's already been a wild ride.

HOLD..ON...


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Hi Workaholic, Thanks and I know you know this but UC has tons of loyal stockholders who believe in him. I have done my research and the more I learned the more I bought. UC has more stockholders who believe in him and his vision for this company than there possibly should be. That is why the bashers are here. Those extra stockholders holding naked short shares are going to cost their bosses plenty. They really should just raise a white flag and surrender because the longs in this company are holding strong. Most who paid the price of admission are not going to sell their tickets because some new members come on over to set them straight and 'help' them. Especially before the first of the dividend dates. I have plenty of DD on the company and UC. I will post some of it later. I had to go to church and now I have a picnic. I'll be back later.
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What a joke! Pretty soon you people will have Urban Casavant and D Roger Glenn walking on water. Again, the basher crap! More referring to something that is not DD as DD.

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Wallace got a raise guys!!!


He's up to a whole shiney news 2004 Nickle per post!!!

CONGRATS WALLACE ON YOUR RAISE!!!!

Go Wallace !


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Get lost you basher idi0t. I was making a joke. So why don't you shut up and disappear into that dark, filthy hole you crawled out of a week ago....and take Wallass with you.

quote:
Originally posted by Royals:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Money_Penny:
[b]LOL. The evil forces are strengthening. The death star is fully manned. First "Up Vader" and "Will the Hutt", and now "DiQuiGreedo" and "Glassgano". Looks like they're getting ready to attack the CMKX solar system in full force. "John Skywalker" and "Han (Stoned) Solo", where are you, we need your help! ("Obi-Pharm Kenobie", we need you, too!).

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Hey pal how about growing up and quit playing with dolls. Give me some positve facts on this stock. How about the low down on UC's history of running a revenue producing company? Tell me what he's doing with the shareholders money other than giving it to his family and race car team. Has he bought a new drilling rig yet. What's that...he's not even drilling? Maybe you should go back to playing with your G.I. Joe's and Barbie's. CMKX will be pulling this scam for a while.

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Royal please name many any penny stocks that trade UNDER .001 that are offering:

1. Three different companies as a dividend

2. With a buy back programming already happening/happened.

3. With constantly expanding mineral claims?


Go back with Wallace you idiot...

This guy Royal made a thread thanksing Wallace... what type of crap is that. Also bear in mind this guy Royal is BRAND NEW and has come out of no where...

Again, either buy the stock or get out of this thread...


We had like a good two weeks of quiet!
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By: stervc

*CMKX-500 Billion OS Revision Solution*
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKX&read=455098

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08 Aug 2004, 11:14 AM EDT
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*CMKX-500 Billion OS Revision Solution*

(An old post for some more thoughts to ponder.) http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=7834
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27 May 2004, 09:22 AM EDT Msg. 7834 of 60925
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*CMKX-500 Billion OS Revision Solution*

Everyone, my apologies for giving you a rush job that was fairly close to how a worse case scenario should be considered. From going back and doing some review, I felt some corrections and revisions were in order.

There were some changes that I believe made stronger upcoming thoughts. There were also some typos and a slight increase to the original Outstanding Shares (OS) number to reflect a more accurate worse case scenario. If this is going to really be a worse case scenario, we should presume that the OS is the max which would be 500 billion.

** It was discovered not long ago that Urban raised the AS to 500,000,000,000 to use as an insurance police against any takeover efforts. This would mean that he felt that someone might be trying to take over CMKX as a business entity and could have bought the required 51% of CMKX shares to use as controlling and voting rights for CMKX.

** This would mean that the increase of the OS to 500 billion was to make sure they capture the needed 251 billion of the OS to have as the company’s restricted shares and 249 billion to have available for the float and other uses. This was to create their own insurance policy to prevent any takeover attempts.

** I do believe that the 249 billion shares are shares that were being bought and retired to decrease the OS and the float, but I will still presume the OS to be 500 billion shares.

** Having such a large OS is not an issue because of the value that resides within CMKX. An OS of this magnitude is required to make sure there is enough liquidity for trading purposes.

** Another key thought is to understand that it’s all about “Supply versus Demand” when your shares are trading in the market. Once the float is gone, it’s gone. It doesn’t matter whether or not your OS is 5 million shares or 5 trillion shares. When the float is gone, it’s gone. The revealed value will cause the float to be dried up very quickly once officially released if there is not a short position.

** I do believe that there is a short at/or near the amount of 1 trillion shares. I also believe that Urban helped to create that short to control the significant increases in future share prices in CMKX. Below is a link to the best post I’ve ever seen about CMKX and its naked short position written by an individual named PennyWrangler that is a must see for all to read!
http://cmkmdiamonds.********s27.com/index.cgi?board=news&action=display&num=1085572932

The beauty of this post is that if there really isn’t a short, then the below example should apply as a minimum which was derived from determining the use of a fairly selected Intrinsic Value of $850 billion from the use of residual valuation pricing techniques.

Let’s consider some logical deduction. If that little piece of 58,000 acres of DeBeers could be valued at $40 to $80 billion, surely our now nearly 3 million acres of land that surrounds those 58,000 acres of land of DeBeers could be worth much more. (OK, maybe I know this, but let’s act like I don’t.) Let’s even forget that we “probably” own two thirds of that piece of land too. Keep the theories in the link below in your thoughts too: http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=6425

What if $40 to $80 billion is the price valuation ratio for every piece of the 58,000 acres of land? This would equate to our pieces of land in the FALC region to be:

3,000,000 ÷ 58,000 = 51.7 groupings of 58,000 acres

Some groupings could be easily valued in the area of $80 billion while some $40 billion for the low side. From my thoughts on what I am expecting to be released from the “rumored” aerial survey results, those groupings could very easily be averaged to reflect value from $40 to $80 billion as what Dr. Hutchison talked about in the interview link below. I think things worked out very well.


Because of such, I think that it will be safe to use $40 billion as a figure for value to include capturing of the now known abundance of copper, gold, zinc, titanium, platinum, and of course plenty of kimberlite and diamonds to say the least that is owned by CMKX.

This would reflect such below as the value of CMKX from most of its resource:

$40,000,000,000 x 51.7 groupings of 58,000 acres = $2,068,000,000,000

Hopefully you can now see how with even using an intrinsic value of $850 billion is very conservative when providing logical deduction as to how CMKX could very well be worth over $2 trillion with its resources.

Since we don’t really know if the $850 billion we are using as the Intrinsic Value is based on an annual, quarterly, or exponential value, we will not need to multiply by a PE Ratio because the growth rate is not known for the residual valuation pricing techniques just used.

Intrinsic Value ÷ OS = Price that CMKX is worth
$850,000,000,000 ÷ 500,000,000,000 = $1.70

Keep in mind that 51% of the OS, 251,000,000,000 shares, will be restricted and owned by insiders. This means that the share structure would look as followed:

500,000,000,000 = OS
251,000,000,000 = Restricted Shares
249,000,000,000 = Float

In my opinion, the OS is not going to matter in the big scheme of things for the plan that will be presented. Whatever the amount that’s needed is required to allow for the movement of key deals to be transacted while implementing safety measures at the same time. This is to not impede the Tender Offer to be issued to us for going private while forcing a fair option for covering by the Market Makers (MMs). This is why we do not need a reverse split too.

Expect to see the PRs to justify value and growth of the company and everything else will run its course to justify the numbers I used above. I hope now you can see why in the link below that $1.00 is a good minimum share price to offer to buyout us shareholders for Urban and CMKX to go private.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=6425

From the logic above, CMKX could easily be worth $1.70 or more per share. This would no doubt force a naked short covering out of this world. The good thing about this, even if you don’t believe that there is a short, then what was posted above would transpire still as a minimum as we begin to have substance revealed to us from the company.

Urban has a great many friends and family members invested into CMKX at much higher prices than where CMKX is currently trading. Just breaking even is not the goal. Urban is a people person and has a wonderful attitude, understanding, and concern for all shareholders to include us little guys here in RB land which is why he is making sure we get the word first! I trust Urban and his team of experts and so should we all!

All of my thoughts to include those in this post concerning CMKX have been nothing more than “theories” until converted into “facts” by Urban and CMKX. It is still my belief that CMKX will help many to achieve prosperity!

All is Well!

;-)
Sterling
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May God Bless All.


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sterling=crazy ideas that I really don't see being possible, but believed by thousands of his followers for some reason.
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Obi-Pharm Kenobie I know who that is...

Is Han SToned Solo SP or me?

Or am I John Skywalker? Wait maybe thats UC since he can walk on water, hence Skywalker!

Maybe I am just Yoda!

Soar CMKX will. Ground diamonds find they will.

Get three dividends we shall

Dump in pants Wallace will have...Clean up with his tounge Royal will.

-John-

Pharm, your new name is Obie Pharm Kanobie


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I have done my DD on CMKX but if you have a thought about CMKX or other stocks I like to read good info but investors should make there on design based on your DD. I JUST THOUGHT investors would like to see what others or thinking.

May God Bless All.

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sterling=crazy ideas that I really don't see being possible, but believed by thousands of his followers for some reason.


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quote:
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sterling=crazy ideas that I really don't see being possible, but believed by thousands of his followers for some reason.

When the core sample results come out, you'll be buying this stock, too, although it will cost you much, much more.


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This thread is little more than a "CMKX CULT". Very similar to religious cults, such as the Moonies, that have been propagated by easily swayed minds.

Noticed the two buddies are still together...
one after the other. One of them started a thread under Off Topic Posts. "Women,sex,stocks,drugs" Got only one response other than his own. That is the level of their credibility! With all the vile things that poster has said about me and my wife, he's extremely lucky I have said nothing about his relationships with his sister, her husband and himself. I, for one, do not feel the least bit sorry for that family...except for having someone like him in their midst.

Someone mentioned that Royal is a new member. I remember when most of the pumpers here were new members. Many, on another thread, stated how long they have been trading stocks. Most are novices to trading stocks (not talking about membership on Allstocks). Most are little more than a couple of months to a year. One was about 2 years. Another, who claimed to have been trading for about 5 years didn't even know the difference between issued and outstanding vs float (or public float). Now you are all claiming to be DD experts. You people have no idea how much experience Royal may have and being a new member means absolutely nothing. Being new to stock trading does.

Look at just who has been doing the majority of the posting on this thread and how very often. An obvious conclusion is that if a basher does a lot of posting, a "PUMPER" does the same thing. Count them up and see the facts. One pumper claimed to be "an amateur and never pretended to be anything else". Then, on a number of occasions tells others that ex-dividend and record dates are one and the same (then deletes it and after being told 3-4 times what various dates mean)
post someone else's post about such dates. Rarely an original thought that is correct, but posts others' posts and calls it DD...even though they are generally speculation and rumor. He and others rant about facts when they have stated in their posts "Thoughts not facts" - "Heavily IMO". That is about all the pumpers on this thread do state. IMO - IMO - IMO With such lack of real experience, posts with "in my opinion" carries little or no credibility.

Two more things with reference to a "John"...aka as something one sits on and takes a defecates in/on or someone who is soliciting prostitutes.

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Wallace & Royals,

If you want to call somebody a PUMPER, then look at Sterling's post. That guy is just a moron. He divides our land down into 58,000 acre patches, and then he values each one of them at $40 - $80 billion. Like our land was just inundated with kimberlite pipes. Nobody can be that stupid believing something like that (not even Sterling). That's not how it works. No, I think the guy's motives for pumping out all this BS are to attract as many investors as possible, which will raise the PPS, and when he has made his predetermined profit, he will sell and take the money and run and we will never hear from him again. That guy is a real PUMPER. You guys do just the opposite. You try to convince people that CMKX is a SCAM so they will sell which will result in a lower PPS and then your bosses can buy-in (and/or cover) at a lower level and make some real cash. Too bad for you though, you make what, $.05 per post, which doesn't really add up to much does it? Oh yeah, by anyone responding to your ludicrous posts, I think you get paid a bonus, like another $.05? Well, it's you lucky day!


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Let's look at some of the "DD" Wallace has brought to this forum:

posted by Wallace#1 on June 26, 2004 20:20
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Osubucks,
If it looks like a SCAM;
If it talks like a SCAM;
If it acts like a SCAM,
Then, IT IS A SCAM!

QUACK! QUACK! LOL


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Very true. QUACK! QUACK! There's a lot of quacking going on with CMKX. Cannot deny that!

By the way, someone on another thread asked for "cheap profitable Co's". Guess who mentioned CMKX as profitable. Another FREQUENT poster who doesn't even know what "profitable" means.

Thanks for posting that again. It's important that everyone is aware of the possibilities or probabilities.

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Good post MP, somewhere in between Sterling and the naysayers is the truth.
I am glad to see all you young people having fun today.
Today is my grandson's 2nd birthday party, but I will check in every so often to check the high drama.

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Originally posted by Money_Penny:
Wallace & Royals,

If you want to call somebody a PUMPER, then look at Sterling's post. That guy is just a moron. He divides our land down into 58,000 acre patches, and then he values each one of them at $40 - $80 billion. Like our land was just inundated with kimberlite pipes. Nobody can be that stupid believing something like that (not even Sterling). That's not how it works. No, I think the guy's motives for pumping out all this BS are to attract as many investors as possible, which will raise the PPS, and when he has made his predetermined profit, he will sell and take the money and run and we will never hear from him again. That guy is a real PUMPER. You guys do just the opposite. You try to convince people that CMKX is a SCAM so they will sell which will result in a lower PPS and then your bosses can buy-in (and/or cover) at a lower level and make some real cash. Too bad for you though, you make what, $.05 per post, which doesn't really add up to much does it? Oh yeah, by anyone responding to your ludicrous posts, I think you get paid a bonus, like another $.05? Well, it's you lucky day!



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