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What do you guys think is a good entry point into this stock? I mean how low will it go..
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May not be one....I'm looking for a get-out point. When WNMI outdoes this boy, it's time to do some serious thinking. How low? Who knows......

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Originally posted by braggtd:
What do you guys think is a good entry point into this stock? I mean how low will it go..


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I can't hold on to this crap much longer, too many other bargains out there. I see nothing but share dilution in the future. As for Glenn Cummings, haven't heard his song on the radio yet, though I don't listen to country all the time. Did anyone? Also, just curious, does anyone know if Glenn Cummings (who resides in FL) is connected to the recently acquired Cummings Financial Services (located in FL)?
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quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
This is a total joke!

the PR?


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quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
the PR?

The manipulation.


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I'm thinking about getting out of here and taking the tax write off. I agree, there are too many other good plays out there.
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I think the problem we're going to have now is that once we finally do start to make a run we're going to have more people trying to find exit points as opposed to making profits due to what the MMs have been doing here.
I'd love the 2-3 day 200% run, and maybe this is the perfect setup for one, but I have a feeling we've got more frustrated investors than optimistic ones holding TSBB right now.
I personally don't intend on selling for a loss or even braking even, so until .007 comes back around I'll be hanging on.
Just thinking out loud here, rather keep discussions going, more attention the better I suppose.

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I got out awhile back since I was so frustrated.

I have been monitoring for a good re-entry point - but I think I have given this one up.

Good luck to you all.


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I can't even dump my shares at .004. I've been trying for a couple hours now. Its bad enough having to take such a huge hit, not being able to dump at the price its been selling at all day makes it worse.
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with all of this negative talk about people wanting to sell, I think it's just about time to buy in.
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Aside from people bailing, can you give any other reasons to get in now? Just an honest question, no harm meant.
quote:
Originally posted by donb:
with all of this negative talk about people wanting to sell, I think it's just about time to buy in.


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quote:
Originally posted by golfshop:
Aside from people bailing, can you give any other reasons to get in now? Just an honest question, no harm meant.

I'm trying to bail b/c although good news has come out inrecent weeks, the PPS has gone no where. Now, they are voting on issueing more shares in their next meeting. If they are as profitable as they say, why do they need to issue more shares? If that goes through, we are in trouble.


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quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
I can't even dump my shares at .004. I've been trying for a couple hours now. Its bad enough having to take such a huge hit, not being able to dump at the price its been selling at all day makes it worse.

I hate when that happens! You see the raw time and sales data and you see sooo many orders being filled at your price and all around it and your order still sits there without an execution. I called my broker (ameritrade) once to complain about it - it was for the adot run up. As soon as I got in touch with a rep they put my order through. By that time I had lost some potential proffit but I was happy to have gotten out at least.


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Good common-sense comment.
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Originally posted by kbpkt:
I'm trying to bail b/c although good news has come out inrecent weeks, the PPS has gone no where. Now, they are voting on issueing more shares in their next meeting. If they are as profitable as they say, why do they need to issue more shares? If that goes through, we are in trouble.


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quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
I can't even dump my shares at .004. I've been trying for a couple hours now. Its bad enough having to take such a huge hit, not being able to dump at the price its been selling at all day makes it worse.

It will sell @ the bid price of .0035, so go ahead and sell them shares so someone else can be very happy!

Plus the bid has only been @ .004 once today and that was at 10:09 this morning, hence the reason you have not been able to sell.


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well, we just made a new low, .0035, who woulda thought
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quote:
Originally posted by golfshop:
Good common-sense comment.

They are not issueing more shares! They are only looking to increase the authorized amount of shares that they can issue. There is a difference!

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quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
They are not issueing more shares! They are only looking to increase the authorized amount of shares that they can issue. There is a difference!


The ask has been at .004 for most of the day. To any person looking at this company that sees that they are voting on issueing more shares would naturally assume they need more money. I'm not trying to start a pi$$ing contest with you, but we have enough senseless pumpers all over Allstocks. Pump all you want, but having a vote on issueing more shares would only happen b/c you need more money.

[This message has been edited by kbpkt (edited July 08, 2004).]


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The bid has NOT been at .004 except once as stated before... the ASK has been at .004. They are quite different.
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quote:
Originally posted by donb:
The bid has NOT been at .004 except once as stated before... the ASK has been at .004. They are quite different.

I apologize, thats what I meant to say. I read over his post too quickly. I'll edit my previous post.

[This message has been edited by kbpkt (edited July 08, 2004).]


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does anyone know of any bad news other than the question of increasing O/S relating to TSBB? Haven't had any bashers here, almost miss them, always nice to hear the other side of things. Is there some other reason for the poor performance here other than MM's? I haven't been able to find anything.
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quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
does anyone know of any bad news other than the question of increasing O/S relating to TSBB? Haven't had any bashers here, almost miss them, always nice to hear the other side of things. Is there some other reason for the poor performance here other than MM's? I haven't been able to find anything.


Neither have I, which is precisely why I just put in a buy order. Not to mention that I am going into surgery tomorrow and I won't be able to watch the stocks. I don't want to miss the buy in! GL to you all.


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quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
The ask has been at .004 for most of the day. To any person looking at this company that sees that they are voting on issueing more shares would naturally assume they need more money. I'm not trying to start a pi$$ing contest with you, but we have enough senseless pumpers all over Allstocks. Pump all you want, but having a vote on issueing more shares would only happen b/c you need more money.

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NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Annual Meeting of Stockholders of TS&B Holdings, Inc., a Utah corporation (the “Company”), will be held Tuesday, August 17, 2004, at 11:00 a.m. in offices of TS&B Holdings, Inc., for the following purposes:


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To elect five (5) directors to serve for the upcoming year;

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To consider and act upon a proposal to ratify the selection of Bauman, Raymondo, LLP as the Company's independent accountants for the year ending June 30, 2004;

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To ratify the terms of a class of preferred stock;

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To ratify the creation of certain committees to serve within the Board of Directors and provided guidance to the Company;

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To authorize the increase the number of shares authorized for issuance;

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To ratify prior action of the Company electing to be governed as a Business Development Company under the Investment Company Act of 1940;

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To consider and act upon a proposal to allow the sale of stock issued by the Company at a price determined by the Board of Directors but which may be below the “net asset value” as that term is defined hereinbelow; and

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To transact such other business as may properly come before the meeting or any adjournment thereof.

First of all facts are facts. It does not state any where that they are issueing more shares. They are seeking to increase the authorized amount that they could issue if need to be. There is a difference. Here is a definition of authorized share:

The maximum number of shares of stock that a company can issue. This number is specified initially in the company's charter, but it can be changed with shareholder approval. Generally a much greater number of shares are authorized than required, to give the company flexibility to issue more stock as needed. also called authorized stock or shares authorized.

Now as far as pumping, give me a break. Everything I state as far as what I believe is my opinion as far as price goes...other wise it is fact, good or bad!

Also I use Ameritrade and the Bid has only been at .004 once today.


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Good luck with your surgery and TSBB.
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On another note, the value of the company right now is $276,325... I personally think that TSBB is worth more than that. Just my opinion.
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You are right that it does not mean they will issue those shares, only that they can. I do understand the difference, but I also understand that when people see things like that, they automatically read into it and factor it into the PPS. Besides that, I also can't find anything bad about this company, and I have looked. I understand that MM's play games with stocks at our expense, but I just think it is wishful thinking to blame the recent decline entirely on them. On a side note, we have made a recent high with the amount of times the TSBB thread has been at the top of the thread list.
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my view is that tsbb will go higher than the current price.

at least .01-.015...

why?

ok so they are going to duiltion more shares.
as of now current o/s is roughly around 500 million...
2 billion more shares will be added soon if needed but I doubt they will add more shares to delevope or buy some other company out..

this company is making profit as stated in the 10q filing...thats the fact.

the insiders are holding roughly 30% of the shares.
it their $$ in this company and I don't think any of them wanna sent this stock down.
its the mm that are playing around..

today pr was pretty good if u read carefully..

Growth Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Closing of Second Private Placement Financing Through The Issuance of Restricted Stock
Thursday July 8, 9:15 am ET

think of it... how many company out there that investors wanna put their $$$ in TSBB on an otc exchange...
private placement are always a good deal..

that means that someone is betting on tsbb and its good for us shareholders.

don't let the red ink discourge u from your DD when you first bought this tsbb..

I hope I am not wrong with TSBB...
its a gamble but this worthy gamble...

remember of ibzt... when they sart doing more diultion, what happen?
the share rocket to as high as .04...
and I believe it was 1.2 billion shares being diulted...

I'm hopping TSBB will do the same....

all base on my opinion....
good luck to all long....



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...and that, my friends, is why he is known as VIP.

(i hope you're right)


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Anyone new to TSBB can look through all the excellent DD on these threads, for me I'm just sitting back and watching the show from now on with this one. I averaged down last Friday, sitting on 600k shares at avg of .0056, and like I've said before, won't be selling for a loss or even break even. For you bottom pickers this is prime real estate IMO. Hang in there, good things to come.
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quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
Anyone new to TSBB can look through all the excellent DD on these threads, for me I'm just sitting back and watching the show from now on with this one. I averaged down last Friday, sitting on 600k shares at avg of .0056, and like I've said before, won't be selling for a loss or even break even. For you bottom pickers this is prime real estate IMO. Hang in there, good things to come.

Totally agree. It's not going to bother me one bit to sit on this one for a while. It might be frustrating at times but it will eventually pay off. <IMHO>

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HEY THERE HO THERE HI THERE!!! That's right. This is going to be a good pay-off once the MM'S are taken behind the barn and take their rose bush beating. They cannot continue to keep this stock down much longer. Just as soon as TSBB's end of the year report comes out and show's everyone just how strong their company really is, the stock will zoom zoom zoom, all the way to the moon, (as platapuss say's).

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Alright, I have been annoyed by people blaming MM's for everything, but I think I'm starting turn around. Because the spread is large right now, I put in a sell at .0042 to see if it would be reflected in the bid/ask. I put it in 30 minutes ago and the ask is still showing up as .0043 on my streamer. For anyone I snapped at for blaming MM's, I'm sorry. I am witnessing them in action as we speak.
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Actually, I believe the shareholders equity is $1.3 million which means we are selling for only 1.5 times book value. The DD on this board is lagging right now, to be honest. The company diserves better treatment. I will find a few posts and get them copied over here.

quote:
Originally posted by donb:
On another note, the value of the company right now is $276,325... I personally think that TSBB is worth more than that. Just my opinion.


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8 Pro Reasons for TSBB

All we want is a company that wants to grow the right way. Isn't that all we can ask for? Doesn't it all boil down to intent, and effort? There are real facts to evaluate this opportunity:

1. The Buehler subsidiary. Does this not speak for itself? Quality contracts with organizations like the Sarasota Court House and sub-work with the Hilton chain and much more. $3.2 million out in bids - great numbers for a sub-penny...any complaints about effort and intent here? I would think that we as shareholders would be pleased.

2. Gulf Coast Recording - Has completed a real recording from an excellent artist, Glenn Cummings. Record was professionally done to the point of compliments from a top industry guy (see post #6286). His new single is actually getting airplay in Nashville area, and the radio station tour starting on 19th. Sounds about as real as life can get.

3. Cummings Financial - Many years in business. $25 million plus in loan originations. Acquired just recently. Again, how can you get any more real than that? Keep an eye on this company....How much mortgage business do you think there is in the U.S? This purchase would seem to be a natural growth area that TSBB acquired to put on the fast track. A world of potential here in FL and elsewhere.

4. Wellstone - Good private companies need shells on a regular basis. They are no doubt shopping for the right one. Shareholders can see an immediate benefit when they chose a company.

5. Sports Nation - Excellent margins in this developing business. Let's see how it evolves.

6. KMA Financial - A sleeper? How many public and private companies need financial consulting work of all kinds?Don't overlook this one.

7. TS&B Financial - Various consulting opportunities. Again, should not be underestimated in terms of potential.

8. TS&B Gaming - Has already announced a joint venture effort toward a Central Florida racetrack - a $100 million venture. Sounds pretty good to me.....

You know, every sub-penny has risk. To offset that you need the opportunity for BIG rewards. It's all here, IMHO.
Study, read, keep up with TSBB, decide each and every one for themselves. As it should be.. W


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From the other day:

Just had a really great 30 minute call with Dennis Banka at Z-104 in Carthage, TN. He is the first one to play Glenn Cummings and he really likes the music. He is keeping Glenn in the rotation, and "Big" is heard regularly there. The signal covers about 1/2 of Nashville.

Dennis is going to be buying the station soon, and will move from music director to owner/music director. He's been in the business for 13 years. He had a lot of really good things to say about his meeting with Glenn last month.

First, he said that the producers made a great decision to make the record in a certain way that has the highest technical compatibility with radio airplay. It has something to do with compressing the signal, and if it isn't done right, the song doesn't have the same sound quality over the airwaves as it does in your CD player.

He said every station manager would recognize right away whether it was done right or not - many are not. Glenn's is ready for airplay.

He said Glenn sang he whole album for him - not as an audition, but just because Glenn was excited about his record while they listened. He said he was very impressed with what he heard live without equipment, and that Glenn has the raw talent, looks, size to make this happen.

Dennis also said not everyone is ready, willing and able to go out on the road and promote the music as Glenn is about to do. They just don't have it in them to pull it off. He said Glenn does.

Anyway, it was a GREAT chat with a real industry pro that Time Warner uses to check out new recording artists and break them in on the airwaves. And he says Glenn has the goods as far as he's concerned, and he will keep playing him. Now it's up to the other music directors, DJ's, and fans, he said.

He told me about the path to slots in record stores also. It basically comes down to airplay to get into the Wal-Marts - but if he's getting local airplay somewhere, then Wal-Mart's distributor knows about it and local stores are stocked. So you don't have to conquer the world in a month - you take it the way you eat an elephant - one bite at a time. One interview at a time. One station at a time.

And one last thing - he said he gave Kenny Chesney his first airplay and met him right there at the same station -and Glenn is more talented than Kenny Chesney - at least at this stage.

This guy is clearly pulling for Glenn, and even though it's pretty evident it takes time to break through, thinks Glenn has got the goods to make a serious run at national recognition.


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