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Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
NEWS just out. This stock is way undervalued. BUT I KNEW THIS. trading now at .006 I bought it yesterday at .004

NEWS states that this stock has been severely SHORTED. And that it should be valued at about .05

Thats a 9 BAGGER people.
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
i am in!!!!!!
let's rock
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
ORLANDO, Fla., May 12, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. (``Company'' or ``TS&B'') (OTC BB:TSBB.OB - News), CEO James Jenkins has provided the following open letter to all shareholders and the investment community.
ADVERTISEMENT


I wish to thank all our shareholders and investors who have stuck with TS&B through this turbulent time, both in the U.S., and all over the world, that are and have supported our efforts. I feel it is essential that the current shareholders and prospective investors are aware that TS&B is executing its strategic business plan to improve shareholder value. TS&B is not just ``another'' OTCBB company.

The stock market has not been responsive to TSBB. It is the Company's position that due to the trading volume that TSBB has experienced over the past few months the Company has been targeted by ``SHORTERS'', and that our stock is severely undervalued at current levels. The Company and the management are not selling stock. 1E shares are one method BDCs use to raise investment cash. The Company cannot stop investors of 1E stock from selling when they choose. The Company believes the per-share price should be in the $.03 to $.05 range, the share price was recently at $.05. The Company knows the only way to rid TSBB of the ``SHORTERS'' is to acquire assets, revenue and show earnings. The Company is taking the steps necessary to fulfill those requirements. The Company also needs to have sustained retail buying. It is our sincere hope that our current shareholders as well as potential investors will see the intrinsic value of TSBB and ``BUY'' at the current levels, which are severely depressed.

Management forecasts that quarterly operating results will increase significantly due to many factors, including the generation of revenue from the Company's recent acquisitions, investments and consulting fees. The Company has also added significant assets to the Company's balance sheet. The Company has hired an independent appraisal firm, Valuation Strategies, Inc., to value the Company's most recent acquisitions and those appraisals will be incorporated into the third quarter financial statements.

Company Election to a Business Development Company (BDC)

The Company elected to become a Business Development Company under the 1940 Act in January 2004. BDCs were created to provide investment capital for undercapitalized developing companies. The Company's election as a BDC allows it to raise money in the public sector and reinvest it in the private sector. By investing in a BDC shareholders enjoy diversity of markets and the liquidity of a publicly traded stock while participating in the private equity industry. TS&B has targeted the following growing markets; Manufacturing and Distribution; Product Marketing and Sales; Financial Services; Sports & Entertainment and Gaming; and Construction and Management Services.

The business model for TS&B as an investment company (BDC) requires TS&B to lend its management expertise to the existing management of companies acquired or invested in by TSBB to further develop and expand their businesses. The Company makes investments through cash, debt, equity, warrants and hybrid instruments. The Company can raise up to $5M annually through the 1E registrations. Recently the company raised $850K.

TS&B's management has substantial experience in all aspects of investment and business including commercial real estate, finance, sales & marketing, construction, golf course development, gaming and hospitality. TS&B has conducted substantial research and due diligence on a variety of investment opportunities and TS&B believes this initial range of products and investments benefit TS&B shareholders. In addition, there is an opportunity to cross-sell between TS&B portfolio companies and subsidiaries.

The following is a list of our recent accomplishments . . .

In February, the Company closed on the investment in Gulf Coast Records. The business plan has been executed and is moving along extremely well. The recording of the first album started on April 26th and is anticipated to be released in June 2004. We are extremely happy with the success we are having with the team that has been assembled to promote Glenn Cummings in Nashville.

In March, the Company closed on Buehler Earth and Waterworks LLC (BEW). The Company owns a 51% equity interest in the business and will provide management services. BEW is in the site preparation, underground utility and land clearing business in Florida. Mr. Buehler has extensive experience in site preparation, underground utility and land clearing. There is a large market both here in Florida and around the country for this business. Revenues for this year are projected to be approximately $2 million dollars with net income projected to be approximately $400,000. BEW currently has signed contracts of $75,000 and over $1,400,000 pending bids to date. BEW's operation will grow internally as well as externally. BEW recently completed a project at Camellia Point in East Orlando and started the Orlando Flight Training Facility in Kissimmee.

In March, the Company announced the formation of TS&B Gaming & Entertainment Corp., a wholly owned subsidiary created solely for the purpose of positioning the Company in the $600 billion dollar Gaming Industry. In the year 2000, 35.1 Million people played online games. That number is expected to rise to 104.9 million by the year 2005. Online games are growing at a rate of 25% annually. To date the Company has signed a Letter of Intent with a Florida Corporation to jointly develop a world class thoroughbred race track and para-mutual gaming facility in Central Florida. The Company is acting as the investment advisor to raise the necessary funding for the project through the Company's commercial financing contacts and will receive equity. The Company is also in discussions with several on-line gaming companies to secure a license agreement and intends to develop an Online Casino and Website that will include blackjack, roulette, craps, pai gow, poker and slots.

In March, the Company formed TS&B Ventures, Inc., a Florida corporation, to develop a series of investment partnerships that will be instrumental in financing associated transactions for TS&B. The Company is currently exploring the acquisition of a site prep company in Central Florida with revenues of $18M and is in negotiations with a custom millwork & casework manufacturing company in the southeast with revenues of $7M, and combined net income of approximately $2.5M. Management anticipates raising up to $5,000,000 in fresh capital through sub-debt and hybrid securities to fund transactions of this nature. TS&B Ventures is currently in contact with several large hedge funds and is working to structure one of several offerings for acquisitions.

In May, the Company is closing on Cummings Financial. The Company will own a 51% equity interest in the business and will provide management services. Cummings Financial Services is a residential mortgage company started in 1998. The company employs 20 people. In 2003 they processed $26.5M in loans with gross revenues from fees in excess of $850K. CFS has financing relationships with over 450 financial institutions allowing them the ability to guarantee their clients the lowest possible rate. They have a secondary revenue source through their relationship with a Title Company. The Company intends to integrate its commercial mortgage business into Cummings Financial.

Revenue Streams

The Company's first priority is to grow revenue through portfolio investments and to expand the base of such investments. As previously released the company projects approximately $2M in revenue from Buehler Earth and Waterworks and in excess of $1M from Cummings Financial Services. Additional revenue will come from Sports Nation, Gulf Coast Records and TS&B Gaming as well as management fees charged to the portfolio companies.

The Company anticipates meeting its cash needs through revenue from its portfolio acquisitions, financial consulting services, commercial real estate transactions and leveraging its relationships with other companies within its other revenue divisions.

In closing I would again like to thank our stockholders for their continued patience as we navigate the OTCBB landscape. When we began the journey to develop this business plan, our sources of revenue were very limited. We adopted a plan which was very expensive for our stockholders from a viewpoint of dilution but one which included our then present stockholders rather than excluding them. The Company has sold 50,000,000 shares of stock to raise the money for investment in the companies mentioned and to finance the continuation of the business plan as we have presented it. We will continue to raise funds by the best means possible to finance acquisitions and investments that we believe will provide stockholder value. We value your support and will be making a better effort to communicate to stockholders as we make advances in executing our plan.

SAFE HARBOR

The statements made in this release constitute ``forward-looking'' statements, usually containing the words ``believe,'' ``estimate,'' ``project,'' ``expect,'' or similar expressions. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, changing economic conditions, interest rates trends, continued acceptance of the Company's products in the marketplace, competitive factors and other risks detailed in the Company's periodic report Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this release.

Contact:

TS&B Holdings, Inc.
Jim Jenkins, CEO
(407) 649-8325
jjenkins@****************


 


Posted by glassman on :
 
this looks good.....

(QUOTE)
2004-05-12 09:15:29


TS&B Holdings Inc. CEO Announces Corporate News Bulletin


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> ORLANDO, Fla., May 12, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (OTCBB:TSBB), CEO James Jenkins has provided the following open letter to all shareholders and the investment community. I wish to thank all our shareholders and investors who have stuck with TS&B through this turbulent time, both in the U.S., and all over the world, that are and have supported our efforts. I feel it is essential that the current shareholders and prospective investors are aware that TS&B is executing its strategic business plan to improve shareholder value. TS&B is not just "another" OTCBB company. The stock market has not been responsive to TSBB. It is the Company's position that due to the trading volume that TSBB has experienced over the past few months the Company has been targeted by "SHORTERS", and that our stock is severely undervalued at current levels. The Company and the management are not selling stock. 1E shares are one method BDCs use to raise investment cash. The Company cannot stop investors of 1E stock from selling when they choose. The Company believes the per-share price should be in the $.03 to $.05 range, the share price was recently at $.05. The Company knows the only way to rid TSBB of the "SHORTERS" is to acquire assets, revenue and show earnings. The Company is taking the steps necessary to fulfill those requirements. The Company also needs to have sustained retail buying. It is our sincere hope that our current shareholders as well as potential investors will see the intrinsic value of TSBB and "BUY" at the current levels, which are severely depressed. Management forecasts that quarterly operating results will increase significantly due to many factors, including the generation of revenue from the Company's recent acquisitions, investments and consulting fees. The Company has also added significant assets to the Company's balance sheet. The Company has hired an independent appraisal firm, Valuation Strategies, Inc., to value the Company's most recent acquisitions and those appraisals will be incorporated into the third quarter financial statements. Company Election to a Business Development Company (BDC) The Company elected to become a Business Development Company under the 1940 Act in January 2004. BDCs were created to provide investment capital for undercapitalized developing companies. The Company's election as a BDC allows it to raise money in the public sector and reinvest it in the private sector. By investing in a BDC shareholders enjoy diversity of markets and the liquidity of a publicly traded stock while participating in the private equity industry. TS&B has targeted the following growing markets; Manufacturing and Distribution; Product Marketing and Sales; Financial Services; Sports & Entertainment and Gaming; and Construction and Management Services. The business model for TS&B as an investment company (BDC) requires TS&B to lend its management expertise to the existing management of companies acquired or invested in by TSBB to further develop and expand their businesses. The Company makes investments through cash, debt, equity, warrants and hybrid instruments. The Company can raise up to $5M annually through the 1E registrations. Recently the company raised $850K. TS&B's management has substantial experience in all aspects of investment and business including commercial real estate, finance, sales & marketing, construction, golf course development, gaming and hospitality. TS&B has conducted substantial research and due diligence on a variety of investment opportunities and TS&B believes this initial range of products and investments benefit TS&B shareholders. In addition, there is an opportunity to cross-sell between TS&B portfolio companies and subsidiaries. The following is a list of our recent accomplishments . . . In February, the Company closed on the investment in Gulf Coast Records. The business plan has been executed and is moving along extremely well. The recording of the first album started on April 26th and is anticipated to be released in June 2004. We are extremely happy with the success we are having with the team that has been assembled to promote Glenn Cummings in Nashville. In March, the Company closed on Buehler Earth and Waterworks LLC (BEW). The Company owns a 51% equity interest in the business and will provide management services. BEW is in the site preparation, underground utility and land clearing business in Florida. Mr. Buehler has extensive experience in site preparation, underground utility and land clearing. There is a large market both here in Florida and around the country for this business. Revenues for this year are projected to be approximately $2 million dollars with net income projected to be approximately $400,000. BEW currently has signed contracts of $75,000 and over $1,400,000 pending bids to date. BEW's operation will grow internally as well as externally. BEW recently completed a project at Camellia Point in East Orlando and started the Orlando Flight Training Facility in Kissimmee. In March, the Company announced the formation of TS&B Gaming & Entertainment Corp., a wholly owned subsidiary created solely for the purpose of positioning the Company in the $600 billion dollar Gaming Industry. In the year 2000, 35.1 Million people played online games. That number is expected to rise to 104.9 million by the year 2005. Online games are growing at a rate of 25% annually. To date the Company has signed a Letter of Intent with a Florida Corporation to jointly develop a world class thoroughbred race track and para-mutual gaming facility in Central Florida.

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Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Glass ..... NICE pick on ONEV ..... This one TSBB looks to do the same. I might just sell half of my QBID stake.
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
gee, no one noticed that I've been posting this all along. Posted the PR this morning too.
well, I got in a while ago at .004. guess no one heard me.
~BB
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
The previous post if anyone wants to follow:
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/006576.html

I didn't like the title of the post anyway.

~BB
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
I bought at .004 also. This one will reach .05 WATCH !
 
Posted by Love the Market on :
 
Betting Babe!

Hi - We missed your News Post because it was buried in the other thread. It needed it's own Headline, imo!

Good Luck,
Steve

 


Posted by betting babe on :
 
Well, there is the pesky little problem of this...
NEWS OUT.

TS&B Holdings, Inc. Discovers Unauthorized Listing on the German Exchange and Requests Shareholder Help
5/12/2004 12:15:21 PM
ORLANDO, Fla., May 12, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") ( TSBB ), has recently been made aware of an unauthorized listing of its common stock on the Berlin-Bremen Stock Exchange. TS&B executives became suspicious that "naked short selling" was taking place in its stock due to the continuous drop in share price over the past several weeks for no apparent reason. Naked shorting is possible due to the unregulated nature of the Berlin Exchange. The Company recently learned that other companies, e.g., DiCut Inc. (DCUTE), Whistler Investments (WHIS), Nanopierce (NPCT), Datascension (DTSN) and BGR Corp. (BGR) were subjects of the same action.

According to a May 6th release by financialwire.net via COMTEX, Nanopierce commenced a lawsuit against the Depository Trust and Clearing Corp., the Depository Trust Company and the National Securities Clearing Corp., claiming these parties have nearly a $1 Billion stake in continuing a program that results in naked short selling. The Company commenced an investigation regarding the unauthorized listing of its stock on the German Exchange.

James Jenkins, TS&B Holdings CEO stated, "we have suspected for a while that naked shorting was taking place. There is no apparent reason for TSBB stock to be trading at current levels. Now that we have confirmation that this type of naked shorting is also happening to other OTCBB companies, we are taking immediate action to address the negative impact on our stock." These steps include:

* Counsel has sent a letter to the Berlin Stock Exchange demanding that TSBB be removed from the Exchange. A Form 8K has been filed with the SEC.

* The Company recently changed Transfer Agents from Atlas Transfer Company to Transfer Online, Portland, Oregon. Transfer Online certificates are a new color and have a barcode. The Company will be issuing a request to all shareholders of record to redeem their shares from their broker and take hard certificates in their possession and then send the certificates to Transfer Online for new certificates.

* The Company, through its counsel, will investigate the source of the listing on the Berlin Stock exchange to determine who initiated the unauthorized listing application and whether such actions violate the securities laws of the United States and Germany.

* The Company, through its counsel, will investigate the available remedies under German securities laws for such unauthorized actions.

* The CEO of the Company will solicit cooperation with other companies similarly situated in a unified effort to protect all such companies.

About TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings Inc., is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries.

Safe Harbor

The statements made in this release constitute "forward-looking" statements, usually containing the words "believe," "estimate," "project," "expect," or similar expressions. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, changing economic conditions, interest rates trends, continued acceptance of the Company's products in the marketplace, competitive factors and other risks detailed in the Company's periodic report Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this release.

SOURCE: TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings, Inc.
Jim Jenkins
(407) 649-8325
jjenkins@**************** www.****************


 


Posted by betting babe on :
 
(SCREAMING) GET IN NOOOOOOWWWWWWW!!! =)

Regarding the listing on the Berlin Exchg, I read many places that while the company claimed they didn't know how they got listed, there was evidence that they had a part in it.
I'm gonna dig deeper today considering the run.
It didn't seem like such a big deal yesterday- actually seemed like an opportunity.
This one bounces up and down by 30% all day long, and has averaged out around .004 lately, but I def think it's undervalued.
~BB
 


Posted by Dardadog on :
 
......and yes, that would be a pesky problem.

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!


DaDog
 


Posted by Quality Joe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
Well, there is the pesky little problem of this...
NEWS OUT.

TS&B Holdings, Inc. Discovers Unauthorized Listing on the German Exchange and Requests Shareholder Help


what do you think the results of this can be?


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
All I can say is wow! This one is way undervalued. It will be back to .05 + real soon. I'm in.
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
They will pull their listing I believe-

When fresh financials come out, it will confirm the .03-.05 PPS the CEO speaks of.

strong buy! .006!
 


Posted by futuresobjective on :
 
were and when do you guys see this going?

 
Posted by jonv on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
They will pull their listing I believe-

When fresh financials come out, it will confirm the .03-.05 PPS the CEO speaks of.

strong buy! .006!


Do we know when new financial should come out?
 


Posted by jonv on :
 
I know this is pure speculation, but dardadog, do you or anyone else think this thing will run before Tue.? I'm thinking of dumping some QBID, picking this up for a quick score, then rebuying QBID. Someone give my their thoughts please.
 
Posted by bauer on :
 
NITE is on the BID and ask ALONE. I see this as a good sign.
 
Posted by jonv on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bauer:
NITE is on the BID and ask ALONE. I see this as a good sign.

Even though he constantly plays games with the QBID stock?
 


Posted by jonv on :
 
Does anyone know when the news release will hit "mainstream"? My Ameritrade still doesn't have it posted on my streamer.
 
Posted by bauer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jonv:
Does anyone know when the news release will hit "mainstream"? My Ameritrade still doesn't have it posted on my streamer.


alphatrade has it

 


Posted by betting babe on :
 
it's on ameritrade.

quote:
Originally posted by jonv:
Does anyone know when the news release will hit "mainstream"? My Ameritrade still doesn't have it posted on my streamer.


 


Posted by jonv on :
 
With the magnatude of the news that was released, why are we hanging at .0062?
 
Posted by betting babe on :
 
cuz we started at .0037 and you're late?

..see my note above. fluctuating by 30% up & down throughout the day.

quote:
Originally posted by jonv:
With the magnatude of the news that was released, why are we hanging at .0062?


 


Posted by RobinO on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jonv:
With the magnatude of the news that was released, why are we hanging at .0062?

Probably because it doesn't look so great for a company to release a PR begging investors to buy their stock... or one that states that they're undervalued. Whether or not they're undervalued is for shareholders in determine. I'll be interested to see if this actually works. I'd love to see Bill Gates put out a whiney PR stating that his MSFT if being manipulated and to please buy.. "we're worth more.. really!"

Wouldn't be surprised to see the rocket up, but whether or not it lasts will be interesting to see.

-R

[This message has been edited by RobinO (edited May 12, 2004).]
 


Posted by jonv on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by betting babe:
cuz we started at .0037 and you're late?

..see my note above. fluctuating by 30% up & down throughout the day.


I see. Better late than never I guess. Is a huge run expected before Tue. of next week?
 


Posted by betting babe on :
 
I'm not sure which release Robin thinks is whiney. I was happy to get some answers as to why a company I thought should have a higher pps wasn't going anywhere.
I happen to think their biz development and expansion is going somewhere and adding value to the company. I happen to think Glenn Cummings rocks. That online gaming & casinos are a huge revenue opportunity for the future.
Make your own decisions. If you aren't looking to day trade it immediately I think this is a good entry point (.005ish)but perhaps holding out can get you in at .004. And I don't interpret the statement by the CEO, nor either of the PR's today, as whiney pleadings. JMHO.
~BB

quote:
Originally posted by jonv:
I see. Better late than never I guess. Is a huge run expected before Tue. of next week?


 


Posted by betting babe on :
 
Agreed. Definately a risky one at this point, but an interesting ride.

quote:
Originally posted by RobinO:
Wouldn't be surprised to see the rocket up, but whether or not it lasts will be interesting to see.
-R


 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
I think this baby is pretty much a SURE thing. Thurday I am definately selling a portion of my QBIS stake and buying more of TSBB on FRIDAY.
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Yes the "RATS have left the QBID ship" and are NOW BOARDING the TSBB CRUISE LINER !!!
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Complete with a Casino and Country Music Entertainment In the Ships LOUNGE !!!
 
Posted by greenhorn on :
 
What is the float on this one?
 
Posted by keithsan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
I think this baby is pretty much a SURE thing. Thurday I am definately selling a portion of my QBIS stake and buying more of TSBB on FRIDAY.


on thurday your selling qbis-LOL

 


Posted by Pat427 on :
 
Share Statistics
Average Volume (3 month): 6,403,045
Average Volume (10 day): 8,948,000
Shares Outstanding: 78.95M
Float: 52.10M
% Held by Insiders: 34.01%

 
Posted by kt325ci on :
 
I like what I see here and I'm in for 250K. Not sure how high we will go in the short term but I'm sure we'll be over a penny very soon.
 
Posted by HOTSHOTSTOCKS on :
 
I currently hold 236920 shares at an average price of .0063 I am confident TSBB will once again realise the .03-.05 level it has taken me to before although with the news out today and the interest not only here but on other boards as well within a few weeks time this could explode even higher. We held a 40% gain throughout the whole day on a very down day otherwise throughout the markets and there wasn't the selling pressure we have been seeing in recent times even after a 40% + gain, I have never seen so much exposure on this stock as I have today nor so much positive interest on the boards. This is a stock I have been in and out of before many times and made some money with I see it back at the .01 support level it had in the short term maybe as soon as the shorts start covering probably by mid next week. In the somewhat short term give it a months time I think you have a great chance of seeing this climb back somewhere to the .03 - .05 level even if it doesn't hold I just see to much momentum here for a run for it not to move. Good Luck all this trains about to leave the station FINALLY!!!!
 
Posted by will on :
 
With the understanding that ONEV is linked to MSFT. I thought I saw O/S of ONEV @ 86MM, once the traders were out it shot up like a rocket. Is there a possibility of the same scenario happening with TSBB?

quote:
Originally posted by Pat427:
Share Statistics
Average Volume (3 month): 6,403,045
Average Volume (10 day): 8,948,000
Shares Outstanding: 78.95M
Float: 52.10M
% Held by Insiders: 34.01%


 


Posted by HOTSHOTSTOCKS on :
 
kt325ci I think we will see a penny with this one if not next week then the following just based on the attention its drawing and the buying going on, on speculation. Fundamentally we could see the .03 - .05 range within a month and a half to two month, which I think better represents this stocks real value. Again I have followed this stock over time buying in time and time again at a penny and selling in the .03- .05 range. They have a lot going on postive for themselves right now I think I might try holding longer this one might just hit a dime someday.
 
Posted by HOTSHOTSTOCKS on :
 
Growth Company, TS&B Holdings, Inc., Announces a $5 Million Equity Financing Commitment With Wall Street Based Compass Capital Group LLC
Thursday March 4, 9:47 am ET


ORLANDO, Fla., March 4, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. (``Company'' or ``TS&B'') (OTC BB:TSBB.OB - News): The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins announced today the Company has agreed to an equity financing transaction with Compass Capital Group, a Wall Street based investment banking firm, to fund up to $5 million dollars.
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The financing commitment over the next 12 months will allow the Company to drive an aggressive acquisition campaign in which Compass Capital Group will play a key role as investment banker and advisor. The financing will allow the Company to implement new strategic corporate initiatives and finalize acquisitions that will directly impact shareholders. The Company intends to announce acquisitions and strategic relationships in the near future.

The Company's objective is to provide services, including consulting services to micro-, small- and mid-cap businesses primarily in the $1 million to $150 million revenues range. The Company will be investing a portion of these funds in the marketing of Sports Nation and Gulf Coast Records.

TS&B Holdings CEO James E. Jenkins stated, ``We are very excited TSB is now in the position to provide funding that will enable Sports Nation and Gulf Coast Records to implement their marketing campaign in two multi-billion dollar markets.'' The market for sports memorabilia itself exceeds $1 billion dollars annually.

 


Posted by HOTSHOTSTOCKS on :
 
The more I review this one the more I like, this one is ready to rock this morning all pre market indicators are pointing to a nice uptick at the bell too!! Get in early or be left at the station. Anyone else here think we are good for another 40% gain today?

TS&B reviews online gambling entry
TS&B Gaming & Entertainment Corp, the subsidiary of TS&B Holdings, Inc. today announced its plans to enter the multi-billion dollar online gambling space, later this quarter.

(PRWEB) April 27, 2004--TS&B Gaming & Entertainment Corp, the subsidiary of TS&B Holdings, Inc. today announced its plans to enter the multi-billion dollar online gambling space, later this quarter.

The company said it was currently reviewing several online platforms and software including blackjack, roulette, craps, pai gow and slots, among others. TS&B said it would also acquire an online gaming software provider over the next few months.

‘We are very enthusiastic about positioning the new subsidiary into the multi billion dollar online gaming sector and exploring possible acquisitions in the gaming and entertainment sectors. With funds we have received from Compass Capital Group, we are now expanding our gaming and entertainment division,’ said James E. Jenkins.

CEO of TS&B Holdings.

TS & B cited a recent Christiansen Capital Advisors report, which pegs the electronic gambling industry to be currently worth US$4.5 billion and expected to touch US$10 billion by the end of 2005. A similar report from the Informa Media Group predicts the online wagering to gross US$14.5 billion by 2006.



 


Posted by Dardadog on :
 
Sorry didn't respond sooner. I like the play of this stock. Appears to extremely underpriced. Didn't get in ystd but prob should have. Just had plate full. I'll be watching close today.

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!


DaDog
 


Posted by TimN88 on :
 
So the decline from the 3 to 5 cent range was due all to shorters? Would it be correct to say that with the low float this one could be back up there fast?
 
Posted by Quality Joe on :
 
If the German exchange stops trading and the shorts are forced out then it seems likely.
 
Posted by Quality Joe on :
 
well, it's opening up
 
Posted by mamboking on :
 
Good opening up 25% and more than 3ml volume in 10 min.
It could fly today.
 
Posted by mamboking on :
 
NEWS OUT
========================================
2004-05-13 09:49:07


TS&B Holdings, Inc. Shareholder Update on Glenn Cummings of Gulf Coast Records


***

> ORLANDO, Fla., May 13, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (OTCBB:TSBB), announced today that Glenn Cummings of Gulf Coast Records has completed recording the sound and his vocal tracks for his new album. Glenn has been busy in Nashville for the past two weeks with H.L. Volker and Miles Bell and the musicians previously announced, cutting the sound tracks and vocal tracks for his new album. The recording of Glenn's vocals and the sound tracks were completed on May 6th. This week the team is working on the background vocals and the mixing of the previously recorded sound tracks and vocals, as well as determining which song will be cut as the first single. The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "We're very excited about the speed in which the team in Nashville has cut the tracks for the new album. The team has definitely proven their ability to get things done on a fast-track schedule. We have had excellent feedback from several key Nashville music industry executives who visited the recordings sessions. The Company anticipates Glenn's new album will be a huge success." About TS&B Holdings Inc. TS&B Holdings Inc., is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries. TS&B Holdings Inc. has a financial services subsidiary, TS&B Financial Services, Inc. that provides investment and merchant banking services and strategic planning to both the public and private sectors. The statements made in this release constitute "forward-looking" statements, usually containing the words "believe," "estimate," "project," "expect," or similar expressions. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, changing economic conditions, interest rates trends, continued acceptance of the Company's products in the marketplace, competitive factors and other risks detailed in the Company's periodic report Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this release. CONTACT: TS&B Holdings, Inc. Jim Jenkins (407) 649-8325 jjenkins@**************** www.****************
 


Posted by beginner on :
 
you all still think this is good?
I put in a buy order for .005 this AM, but I may lower the price...it looks like its coming down.
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
filling the gap, check level 2 for support
 
Posted by HOTSHOTSTOCKS on :
 
Once the trading stops on the german exchange in this one isn't shorted any longer yes it will get back into the .03 - .05 range and yes pretty fast.
 
Posted by jucee187 on :
 
any idea when they supposed to stop trading on the german exchange?
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
from ihub:

TSBB

Word is spreading about delisting from the foreign exchanges next week- should have a positive impact on PPS.

Buy as low as you can!
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
ALL ABOARDD !!!!!!

This Train will be leaving VERY SOON NOW!!!

Buy ! But be Quick !

DardaDog are you on this Train ?

I just SOLD MOST of my QBID shares to RIDE this THANG !!!!

Ya Gotta Luv the PENNIES !!!
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
ALL ABOARDD !!!!!!

This Train will be leaving VERY SOON NOW!!!

Buy ! But be Quick !

DardaDog are you on this Train ?

I just SOLD MOST of my QBID shares to RIDE this THANG !!!!

Ya Gotta Luv the PENNIES !!!


The train is going the wrong way!
 


Posted by HOTSHOTSTOCKS on :
 
It won't be going the wrong way for long besides theres not many pennys that were going the right way today. Delisting next week then this thing should rock right back through the .01 barrier.
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Plat Man you need to update yourself with this Stock. Read this thread and recent News.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Plat Man you need to update yourself with this Stock. Read this thread and recent News.

I have updated myself and have read the news, but the train is still going the wrong way!

Maybe it will head in the direction it needs to next week...I hope it does because I am on this train!


 


Posted by will on :
 
Wrong way or not:
* Statement by the company that they have been raided by shorters on the Berlin exchange, and filing for a delisting.
* $5MM financing
* 76MM O/S
* Trading just above it's 52 week low (Its 52 week high is .10)
It is poised for a run. If it goes to .004 I will double my position.

quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
I have updated myself and have read the news, but the train is still going the wrong way!

Maybe it will head in the direction it needs to next week...I hope it does because I am on this train!



 


Posted by 2thepoint on :
 
I know why this thing is still heading south. I bought it!!!!!
 
Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
It won't go below .004 , be happy for that.

[This message has been edited by GREGDOGG (edited May 15, 2004).]
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
* Statement by the company that they have been raided by shorters on the Berlin exchange, and filing for a delisting.
* $5MM financing
* 76MM O/S
* Trading just above it's 52 week low

HURRY get your shares monday morning BEFORE this thing RUNS...
 


Posted by mamboking on :
 
NEWS JUST OUT.

2004-05-17 09:15:17
Growth Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Engages Shareholder Relations specialist, Honeycutt Capital
***
> ORLANDO, Fla., May 17, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (OTCBB:TSBB) announced it recently retained a shareholder relations and business consulting firm, Honeycutt Capital LLC, Tulsa, OK. The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "We are very excited about bringing the Honeycutt firm on board for shareholder relations and business consulting. The firm comes highly recommended and will be a tremendous asset to the Company as Management now goes about the business of running a very active investment holding company with its portfolio companies. Honeycutt Capital has pledged to return all shareholder inquiries within one business day." Says Daniel Honeycutt, Managing Director of Honeycutt, "We are extremely excited to assist TS&B in accomplishing its goals as described in its most recent business plan as an Investment Company under the 1940 Act." About Honeycutt Capital Honeycutt Capital Group primarily represents small and micro-cap publicly traded companies in a variety of areas. The principals of Honeycutt Capital have over 75 years' experience in the areas of investment banking, securities, real estate, investor and shareholder relations. About TS&B Holdings Inc. TS&B Holdings Inc. is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries. Safe Harbor The statements made in this release constitute "forward-looking" statements, usually containing the words "believe," "estimate," "project," "expect," or similar expressions. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, changing economic conditions, interest rates trends, continued acceptance of the Company's products in the marketplace, competitive factors and other risks detailed in the Company's periodic report Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this release. CONTACT: Honeycutt Capital Group, LLC., Tulsa, Oklahoma 918-392-0336 Honeycuttcapital@hotmail.com
 


Posted by mamboking on :
 
This one is going to run today.
last price .0045
bid .0051
ask .0052
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Gap filled, lets reverse this trend, .03-.05 lets go!
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
MM's ready to move this, I think they've had their fill
 
Posted by Tgrant on :
 
Lets hope so
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Fresh news out at 12 noon

Growth Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Acquisition of Cummings Financial Services, Inc.

ORLANDO, Fla., May 17, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB) announced it recently completed the acquisition of Cummings Financial Services, Inc., (CFS) 711 N. Parsons Ave., Brandon, Florida.

Cummings Financial Services is a residential mortgage company started in 1998. The company employs 20 people. In 2003 CFS processed $26.5M in loans with gross revenues from fees in excess of $850,000. CFS has financing relationships with over 450 financial institutions allowing CFS to guarantee its clients the lowest possible rate. CFS also has a secondary revenue source through its relationship with a title company.

The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "We're very excited about our investment in Cummings Financial. This acquisition gives TS&B another revenue source to add to its portfolio. The Company will now place all of its commercial loan requests through Cummings Financial, giving it another source of income. We look to expand their revenue base to over $2M annually without adding any substantial overhead."

About TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings Inc., is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries.

Safe Harbor

The statements made in this release constitute "forward-looking" statements, usually containing the words "believe," "estimate," "project," "expect," or similar expressions. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, changing economic conditions, interest rates trends, continued acceptance of the Company's products in the marketplace, competitive factors and other risks detailed in the Company's periodic report Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this release.

SOURCE: TS&B Holdings Inc.

Honeycutt Capital Group, LLC., Tulsa, Oklahoma 918-392-0336 Honeycuttcapital@hotmail.com

(C) 2004 PRIMEZONE, All rights reserved.


 


Posted by bjay22 on :
 
Good luck with this, but I'm out. I don't like the fact that I cannot find any info about this Honeycutt Capital of Tulsa, OK using any kind of search, which is strange if they supposedly have over 75 yrs experience. Even the phone # they show in that press release comes up as no listing. Time for me to cut my losses, though I wish the rest of you good luck.
 
Posted by theprofit on :
 
It's kinda fishy when a "company" has a hotmail.com email address. How big is honeycutt?
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Anyone that is invested in TSBB please email the CEO or the new Investor relations firm and tell them to switch newswires to either PRNewswire or BusinessWire so that their news will show up on Ameritrade and Etrade news streamers!!!!! They dont get it, but this is crucial for them to attract new investors!
 
Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Thanks Cabbage, I just emailed them, I hope I was polite enough...lol

See ya at .02 .03 .04

 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GREGDOGG:
Thanks Cabbage, I just emailed them, I hope I was polite enough...lol

See ya at .02 .03 .04


I have my sell order in @ .10. I think once it breaks the .01 barrier this will take off and it will move quick just like ONEV did last week.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Well I must say that was a lousy close. The train keeps moving backwards! Hopefully it's just backing up so it can pick up the stragglers before it takes off.


 


Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
HEY, IT LOOKS LIKE MY EMAIL WORKED....LOL

News out...

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=tsbb&sid=0&o_symb=tsbb&freq=1&time=8

 


Posted by ludinlo on :
 
New to this. Got in this morning, but have not seen much of a improvement in the price.
When should this one go two/three weeks?

Any suggestions from the pro's would be greatly appreciated.

Love this board
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ludinlo:
New to this. Got in this morning, but have not seen much of a improvement in the price.
When should this one go two/three weeks?

Any suggestions from the pro's would be greatly appreciated.

Love this board


Tomorrow!


 


Posted by Tgrant on :
 
platapus, do you realy think it will run tomorow,I mean that would be great but I would have guessed the the beginig of next week, maybe fri. what makes you think it will go tomorow?
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tgrant:
platapus, do you realy think it will run tomorow,I mean that would be great but I would have guessed the the beginig of next week, maybe fri. what makes you think it will go tomorow?

I am just being optimistic. But I do believe it is going to run soon. I wish I could say exactly when, but then if I had the ability to do that I would be extremely rich! LOL.


 


Posted by Tgrant on :
 
very true, we all would be. and nobody likes a pesimist I supose
 
Posted by Teufelmann on :
 
I think this will be the week that things turn around for TSBB. I think all the planets are finally starting to line up.

Now if we can just get these bombing out of the headlines I think we can all make some money for a change.
 


Posted by WiseTrader on :
 
I actually have been in this one since .017, plan to hold for a good while.. this one pretty much bottomed out near its 52 week low, and is geard up for a sling shot of a run after the de-listing from the berlin exchange from the shorters. MMs have been loading up, lots of good news on the way with this solid company, and as the CEO suggests.. this stock will be where its suppose to be after everything has been settled from all the shorting going on once they delist. I have bought more to average down, and picking up as much as I can. I know this one is a no-brainer. Watch this gone go!!!
 
Posted by will on :
 
NEWS:

Press Release Source: TS & B Holdings Inc.


Growth Company TS & B Holdings, Inc. Announces Acquisition of Cummings Financial Services, Inc.
Tuesday May 18, 9:15 am ET

ORLANDO, FL--(MARKET WIRE)--May 18, 2004 -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (OTC BB:TSBB.OB - News), announced it recently completed the acquisition of Cummings Financial Services, Inc., (CFS) 711 N. Parsons Ave., Brandon, Florida.
ADVERTISEMENT

Cummings Financial Services is a residential mortgage company started in 1998. The company employs 20 people. In 2003 CFS processed $26.5M in loans with gross revenues from fees in excess of $850,000. CFS has financing relationships with over 450 financial institutions allowing CFS to guarantee its clients the lowest possible rate. CFS also has a secondary revenue source through its relationship with a title company.

The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins, stated, "We're very excited about our investment in Cummings Financial. This acquisition gives TS&B another revenue source to add to its portfolio. The Company will now place all of its commercial loan requests through Cummings Financial, giving it another source of income. We look to expand their revenue base to over $2M annually without adding any substantial overhead."

About TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings Inc., is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries.


 


Posted by yes on :
 
Really tempted to take some losses to get in on this one.
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
TSBB is being taken off the Berlin exchange today-
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=tsbb.be
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Hurry, this one was severely shorted at the berlin exchange. Today it was delisted from that exchange. Now there isnt anything stopping this baby from trading up where it should .02 and beyond. Duhh .... If you like money like I do DONT MISS THIS ONE !!!!
this low PPS wont last forever.

Due your DD as always and follow your instincts... Only invest what you are willing to lose when investing in PINKS !!!
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Hurry, this one was severely shorted at the berlin exchange. Today it was delisted from that exchange. Now there isnt anything stopping this baby from trading up where it should .02 and beyond. Duhh .... If you like money like I do DONT MISS THIS ONE !!!!
this low PPS wont last forever.

Due your DD as always and follow your instincts... Only invest what you are willing to lose when investing in PINKS !!!


That is awesome! Anyone waiting around to decide will be chasing this one on the way up. Better load up now at these cheap price. <IMHO>

 


Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Hey guy's, I just got an email from these guys asking me to phone them, anyone notice they switched to Marketwire....

Glad to see they listen to their shareholders...

918-392-0036 ask for Ray Larson


 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Greg-

MarketWire is more widely used, but the news still didnt show up on Ameritrades news streamer. Most investors of TSBB use either ameritrade or etrade- im not sure if this news showed up etrade since i use ameritrade.

Im going to send another email
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Hey QBIDers

Hurry, this one was severely shorted at the berlin exchange. Today it was delisted from that exchange. Now there isnt anything stopping this baby from trading up where it should .02 and beyond. Duhh .... If you like money like I do DONT MISS THIS ONE !!!!
this low PPS wont last forever.
Due your DD as always and follow your instincts... Only invest what you are willing to lose when investing in PINKS !!!


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That is awesome! Anyone waiting around to decide will be chasing this one on the way up. Better load up now at these cheap price. <IMHO>



 


Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Mornin' Cabbage,

I asked them to put it out on PRNEWSWIRE and or Businesswire, hopefully they'll use all 3.

Are they allowed to do that or can they only use one, per PR ?????
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
I just alerted the QBID thread about TSBB. With a bit more volume. This baby will move to the STARS !!!!!!
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=TSBB.OB&t=5d&l=on&z=m&q=l&p=&a=m26-12-9&c=

Check OUT how much shorting in Berlin was being undertaken in the past three days.
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
oops WRONG CHART. I MEAN this the chart listed here then look at the MACD for 5 days technical chart. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=tsbb.be
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
MACD 3 month technical chart. thats what i meant. Sorry
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 


 


Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Nothing but sells the last 3/5 days....

Glad your on board Earth-Shaker....

Goooooo QBID....
 


Posted by betting babe on :
 
I wonder if Cummings Financial Services, which TSB&B just acquired, was owned by Glenn Cummings, the country western signer on TSB&B's record label?
~BB
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Hmmmmmm ! Good Question.
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
LOL!

looks like there are some inside bids/asks not being displayed, nasty MM's

.0043 .0047
 


Posted by will on :
 
Doubled my position @ .0041, average down to .0048. Now we can RUN!!!!!
 
Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
Okay, just put in a bid for a 1/2 million at .0050.

Thanks, Earth
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Booty be patient with this one. But it will happen IT HAS TOO !!! nowhere to go BUT UPPP
 
Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Booty be patient with this one. But it will happen IT HAS TOO !!! nowhere to go BUT UPPP

Cool. but why in the hell won't my order go through.

I'm completely out of Qbid for a day or two, but that's my baby, right now.
 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
Nevermind. I'm in at .0048

But my streamer only showed two sells at .0042 for much less volume than mine. Weird, but I'm in!
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Volume is not too high. They need to match your BUY with someone Selling.
 
Posted by will on :
 
With only 76 million shares this is going to dry up pretty soon, and hopefully we will see some decent upward pressure.
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Yes this is my guess also. Good POINT
 
Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
It was just too strange. The SECOND my trade executed, only those lower shares showed up! LOL I'm actually starting here at a $300 loss. Some welcome!

No, but all y'all's DD seemed good. I'm in for a while here. Left myself plenty to buy Q back, when it bottoms.
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
I had the same feeling about GFYF and sold my possition because I was losing a little bit of money. 3 days later the HUGE run HIT GFYF and it went from .0007 to .0071 in two days. A 10 Bagger. I WONT DO THAT AGAIN !!!! I'm In !!!! LETS DO THIS !!!!
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Did you read my QBID posts Botty ????

I called it RIGHT didnt I ?
 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
I had the same feeling about GFYF and sold my possition because I was losing a little bit of money. 3 days later the HUGE run HIT GFYF and it went from .0007 to .0071 in two days. A 10 Bagger. I WONT DO THAT AGAIN !!!! I'm In !!!! LETS DO THIS !!!!

Ouch!!!

Yeah, I've read your stuff. Can't really remember what you said, but I know I like your posts. I made a lot of mistakes on Qbid. The main thing is getting emotionally attached to the others on the thread. It actually feels like I'm betraying them if I sell. LOL Is that crazy? PLUS, my name is on the thread topic! At least I know I won't be out for long.

I hope the action picks up on this one. I'm so used to hundreds of millions of shares trading. I guess this one has under 80 million, so it's all relative, eh?

Regardless, I'm here! Let's do this thang
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
YES >>>> LETS DO THIS !!!!
 
Posted by SimplePlan on :
 
Do you think this will come down to .004 today? I am looking to get in.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Welcome aboard, Quest, bring some of that Q LUCK with ya!
quote:
Originally posted by Booty Quest:
Ouch!!!

Yeah, I've read your stuff. Can't really remember what you said, but I know I like your posts. I made a lot of mistakes on Qbid. The main thing is getting emotionally attached to the others on the thread. It actually feels like I'm betraying them if I sell. LOL Is that crazy? PLUS, my name is on the thread topic! At least I know I won't be out for long.

I hope the action picks up on this one. I'm so used to hundreds of millions of shares trading. I guess this one has under 80 million, so it's all relative, eh?

Regardless, I'm here! Let's do this thang



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
Are they about to become TSBBE? I see they have a NT 10-Q filed with the SEC.
 
Posted by will on :
 
They'll comply, don't jinx it . LOL
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Are they about to become TSBBE? I see they have a NT 10-Q filed with the SEC.


 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Welcome aboard, Quest, bring some of that Q LUCK with ya!


Thanks, glad to be here. Q is down 21% right now. Yikes!

 
Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Are they about to become TSBBE? I see they have a NT 10-Q filed with the SEC.

Would you mind explaining this? I'm not familiar.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Not to worry about Q. It will get where it's going some day. I bought at .0125 today, my original order was for .0115, but I grew impatient, and thought I'd miss it. No big deal, I intend to buy more tomorrow. I have buys in at .01, and .005 right now. I been swinging it the last couple of weeks, and doing well with it.
quote:
Originally posted by Booty Quest:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by will:
[b]Welcome aboard, Quest, bring some of that Q LUCK with ya!


Thanks, glad to be here. Q is down 21% right now. Yikes![/B][/QUOTE]


 


Posted by will on :
 
The "E" added to end means they are not in compliance with SEC Filings. It appears there until they comply.

quote:
Originally posted by Booty Quest:
Would you mind explaining this? I'm not familiar.


 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
THIS stock is WAY UNDER VALUED. 78 million shares OS x .042 = 3.276 million MARKET CAPITOL only. With all the business they are currently working on. ONLINE GAMING, THUROUGHBRED RACETRACK, COUNTRY MUSIC STAR, ETC...

PLUS a TICKER symbol CHANGE.

"NO BRAINER"
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Ticker symbol change?
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
Are they about to become TSBBE? I see they have a NT 10-Q filed with the SEC.


 


Posted by will on :
 
That was just conjecture, speculation, there is no news indicating that. They'll file. Probably had their hands full getting delisted from the Berlin Exchange.

quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:


 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
They're not getting an E

They have until June 5th to file
 


Posted by will on :
 
Thanks cabbage.
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
They're not getting an E

They have until June 5th to file



 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
thanks cabbage

 
Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
I just emailed them and "suggested" they comply early and keep the E off.

I also re-suggested they change to Businesswire or PRnewswire.

I'm outta here, se ya'll later.
 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
Got it. Still learning.
 
Posted by Teufelmann on :
 
WHY IS THIS DOING SO BAD?????? STOCK HAS LOST OVER 30% SINCE I BOUGHT IT!!!!!!!!!!


 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Patience is KEY here. I would give this a week or so to fly.
 
Posted by will on :
 
My original buy was at .0055, I doubled my position at .0041. I'm finished for awhile until I see some progress in price.
quote:
Originally posted by Teufelmann:
WHY IS THIS DOING SO BAD?????? STOCK HAS LOST OVER 30% SINCE I BOUGHT IT!!!!!!!!!!



 


Posted by Upside on :
 
originally posted by will:
quote:
That was just conjecture, speculation, there is no news indicating that. They'll file.

Will,
I guess I didn't word my question quite right. They have filed the NT with the SEC which as you know is a notification of a late quarterly or yearly report filing thus, they are not in compliance. My question is,
(or should have been) when do they get tagged with the "E" on their symbol? I know that they're granted an extension and if they miss that date is that when they get the "E" or is it as soon as the NT is filed? Sorry about the confusion!

[This message has been edited by Upside (edited May 18, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
UP:
I am not sure. Cabbage will know!

quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
originally posted by will:
Will,
I guess I didn't word my question quite right. They have filed the NT with the SEC which as you know is a notification of a late quarterly or yearly report filing thus, they are not in compliance. My question is,
(or should have been) when do they get tagged with the "E" on their symbol? I know that they're granted an extension and if they miss that date is that when they get the "E" or is it as soon as the NT is filed? Sorry about the confusion!

[This message has been edited by Upside (edited May 18, 2004).]



 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
(b) The subject annual report, semi-annual report, transition report
on Form 10-K, 20-F, 11-K or Form N-SAR, or portion thereof will
be filed on or before the 15th calendar day following the
prescribed due date; or the subject quarterly report or
transition report on Form 10-Q, or portion thereof will be filed
on or before the fifth calendar day following the prescribed due
date

June 5th

 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
I'm going to average down tomorrow, hopefully it stays in this range for me!

Continue to email the CEO and IR team and ask that they switch to PRnewswire or BusinessWire- the company releases a lot of great PR's BUT THE MARKET NEVER SEES THEM!

Well, we see them, but only because we look for them- AFRT would've gone nowhere today if MarketWire was used.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
I think I will be buying some more also tomorrow. This is going to be one of those opps that you will say if I just would've bought when at was @ such n such price. I don't want to be kicking my self and watch this thing fly without me being on board like i did with ONEV.
 
Posted by Smctbone on :
 
I think I might be buying into this tomorrow morning too.
I hear that TSBB successfully withdrew from the Berlin stock exchange today, can anyone confirm that?

-Stephen
 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Smctbone:
I think I might be buying into this tomorrow morning too.
I hear that TSBB successfully withdrew from the Berlin stock exchange today, can anyone confirm that?

-Stephen



http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=tsbb.be

Look where it says - **DROP ON 18 MAY (Berlin:TSBB.BE) Quote data by Reuters
 


Posted by Smctbone on :
 
OHHH...
THANKS Booty!


 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Smctbone:
OHHH...
THANKS Booty!


you got it.
 


Posted by ZACH115 on :
 
What Makes you guys feel this is going to turn arround? I dont see anything special.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Read the thread. Lot of good information here.
quote:
Originally posted by ZACH115:
What Makes you guys feel this is going to turn arround? I dont see anything special.


 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENTS
(Looking foward to the Race Track and Online Gaming developments myself, and of course the release of Glenn Cummings album

Growth Company TS & B Holdings, Inc. Announces Acquisition of Cummings Financial Services, Inc.

ORLANDO, FL, May. 18, 2004 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB), announced it recently completed the acquisition of Cummings Financial Services, Inc., (CFS) 711 N. Parsons Ave., Brandon, Florida.
Cummings Financial Services is a residential mortgage company started in 1998. The company employs 20 people. In 2003 CFS processed $26.5M in loans with gross revenues from fees in excess of $850,000. CFS has financing relationships with over 450 financial institutions allowing CFS to guarantee its clients the lowest possible rate. CFS also has a secondary revenue source through its relationship with a title company.
The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins, stated, "We're very excited about our investment in Cummings Financial. This acquisition gives TS&B another revenue source to add to its portfolio. The Company will now place all of its commercial loan requests through Cummings Financial, giving it another source of income. We look to expand their revenue base to over $2M annually without adding any substantial overhead."


Growth Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Engages Shareholder Relations specialist, Honeycutt Capital

ORLANDO, Fla., May 17, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB) announced it recently retained a shareholder relations and business consulting firm, Honeycutt Capital LLC, Tulsa, OK.
The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "We are very excited about bringing the Honeycutt firm on board for shareholder relations and business consulting. The firm comes highly recommended and will be a tremendous asset to the Company as Management now goes about the business of running a very active investment holding company with its portfolio companies. Honeycutt Capital has pledged to return all shareholder inquiries within one business day."
Says Daniel Honeycutt, Managing Director of Honeycutt, "We are extremely excited to assist TS&B in accomplishing its goals as described in its most recent business plan as an Investment Company under the 1940 Act."
About Honeycutt Capital
Honeycutt Capital Group primarily represents small and micro-cap publicly traded companies in a variety of areas.
The principals of Honeycutt Capital have over 75 years' experience in the areas of investment banking, securities, real estate, investor and shareholder relations.


TS&B Holdings, Inc. Shareholder Update on Glenn Cummings of Gulf Coast Records
Thursday May 13, 9:48 am ET

ORLANDO, Fla., May 13, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. (``Company'' or ``TS&B'') (OTC BB:TSBB.OB - News), announced today that Glenn Cummings of Gulf Coast Records has completed recording the sound and his vocal tracks for his new album.

Glenn has been busy in Nashville for the past two weeks with H.L. Volker and Miles Bell and the musicians previously announced, cutting the sound tracks and vocal tracks for his new album. The recording of Glenn's vocals and the sound tracks were completed on May 6th. This week the team is working on the background vocals and the mixing of the previously recorded sound tracks and vocals, as well as determining which song will be cut as the first single.

The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, ``We're very excited about the speed in which the team in Nashville has cut the tracks for the new album. The team has definitely proven their ability to get things done on a fast-track schedule. We have had excellent feedback from several key Nashville music industry executives who visited the recordings sessions. The Company anticipates Glenn's new album will be a huge success.''



TS&B Holdings, Inc. Discovers Unauthorized Listing on the German Exchange and Requests Shareholder Help

ORLANDO, Fla., May 12, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB), has recently been made aware of an unauthorized listing of its common stock on the Berlin-Bremen Stock Exchange. TS&B executives became suspicious that "naked short selling" was taking place in its stock due to the continuous drop in share price over the past several weeks for no apparent reason. Naked shorting is possible due to the unregulated nature of the Berlin Exchange. The Company recently learned that other companies, e.g., DiCut Inc. (DCUTE), Whistler Investments (WHIS), Nanopierce (NPCT), Datascension (DTSN) and BGR Corp. (BGR) were subjects of the same action.
According to a May 6th release by financialwire.net via COMTEX, Nanopierce commenced a lawsuit against the Depository Trust and Clearing Corp., the Depository Trust Company and the National Securities Clearing Corp., claiming these parties have nearly a $1 Billion stake in continuing a program that results in naked short selling. The Company commenced an investigation regarding the unauthorized listing of its stock on the German Exchange.
James Jenkins, TS&B Holdings CEO stated, "we have suspected for a while that naked shorting was taking place. There is no apparent reason for TSBB stock to be trading at current levels. Now that we have confirmation that this type of naked shorting is also happening to other OTCBB companies, we are taking immediate action to address the negative impact on our stock." These steps include:
* Counsel has sent a letter to the Berlin Stock Exchange demanding that TSBB be removed from the Exchange. A Form 8K has been filed with the SEC.
* The Company recently changed Transfer Agents from Atlas Transfer Company to Transfer Online, Portland, Oregon. Transfer Online certificates are a new color and have a barcode. The Company will be issuing a request to all shareholders of record to redeem their shares from their broker and take hard certificates in their possession and then send the certificates to Transfer Online for new certificates.
* The Company, through its counsel, will investigate the source of the listing on the Berlin Stock exchange to determine who initiated the unauthorized listing application and whether such actions violate the securities laws of the United States and Germany.
* The Company, through its counsel, will investigate the available remedies under German securities laws for such unauthorized actions.
* The CEO of the Company will solicit cooperation with other companies similarly situated in a unified effort to protect all such companies.


TS&B Holdings Inc. CEO Announces Corporate News Bulletin

ORLANDO, Fla., May 12, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB), CEO James Jenkins has provided the following open letter to all shareholders and the investment community.
I wish to thank all our shareholders and investors who have stuck with TS&B through this turbulent time, both in the U.S., and all over the world, that are and have supported our efforts. I feel it is essential that the current shareholders and prospective investors are aware that TS&B is executing its strategic business plan to improve shareholder value. TS&B is not just "another" OTCBB company.
The stock market has not been responsive to TSBB. It is the Company's position that due to the trading volume that TSBB has experienced over the past few months the Company has been targeted by "SHORTERS", and that our stock is severely undervalued at current levels. The Company and the management are not selling stock. 1E shares are one method BDCs use to raise investment cash. The Company cannot stop investors of 1E stock from selling when they choose. The Company believes the per-share price should be in the $.03 to $.05 range, the share price was recently at $.05. The Company knows the only way to rid TSBB of the "SHORTERS" is to acquire assets, revenue and show earnings. The Company is taking the steps necessary to fulfill those requirements. The Company also needs to have sustained retail buying. It is our sincere hope that our current shareholders as well as potential investors will see the intrinsic value of TSBB and "BUY" at the current levels, which are severely depressed.
Management forecasts that quarterly operating results will increase significantly due to many factors, including the generation of revenue from the Company's recent acquisitions, investments and consulting fees. The Company has also added significant assets to the Company's balance sheet. The Company has hired an independent appraisal firm, Valuation Strategies, Inc., to value the Company's most recent acquisitions and those appraisals will be incorporated into the third quarter financial statements.
Company Election to a Business Development Company (BDC)
The Company elected to become a Business Development Company under the 1940 Act in January 2004. BDCs were created to provide investment capital for undercapitalized developing companies. The Company's election as a BDC allows it to raise money in the public sector and reinvest it in the private sector. By investing in a BDC shareholders enjoy diversity of markets and the liquidity of a publicly traded stock while participating in the private equity industry. TS&B has targeted the following growing markets; Manufacturing and Distribution; Product Marketing and Sales; Financial Services; Sports & Entertainment and Gaming; and Construction and Management Services.
The business model for TS&B as an investment company (BDC) requires TS&B to lend its management expertise to the existing management of companies acquired or invested in by TSBB to further develop and expand their businesses. The Company makes investments through cash, debt, equity, warrants and hybrid instruments. The Company can raise up to $5M annually through the 1E registrations. Recently the company raised $850K.
TS&B's management has substantial experience in all aspects of investment and business including commercial real estate, finance, sales & marketing, construction, golf course development, gaming and hospitality. TS&B has conducted substantial research and due diligence on a variety of investment opportunities and TS&B believes this initial range of products and investments benefit TS&B shareholders. In addition, there is an opportunity to cross-sell between TS&B portfolio companies and subsidiaries.
The following is a list of our recent accomplishments . . .
In February, the Company closed on the investment in Gulf Coast Records. The business plan has been executed and is moving along extremely well. The recording of the first album started on April 26th and is anticipated to be released in June 2004. We are extremely happy with the success we are having with the team that has been assembled to promote Glenn Cummings in Nashville.
In March, the Company closed on Buehler Earth and Waterworks LLC (BEW). The Company owns a 51% equity interest in the business and will provide management services. BEW is in the site preparation, underground utility and land clearing business in Florida. Mr. Buehler has extensive experience in site preparation, underground utility and land clearing. There is a large market both here in Florida and around the country for this business. Revenues for this year are projected to be approximately $2 million dollars with net income projected to be approximately $400,000. BEW currently has signed contracts of $75,000 and over $1,400,000 pending bids to date. BEW's operation will grow internally as well as externally. BEW recently completed a project at Camellia Point in East Orlando and started the Orlando Flight Training Facility in Kissimmee.
In March, the Company announced the formation of TS&B Gaming & Entertainment Corp., a wholly owned subsidiary created solely for the purpose of positioning the Company in the $600 billion dollar Gaming Industry. In the year 2000, 35.1 Million people played online games. That number is expected to rise to 104.9 million by the year 2005. Online games are growing at a rate of 25% annually. To date the Company has signed a Letter of Intent with a Florida Corporation to jointly develop a world class thoroughbred race track and para-mutual gaming facility in Central Florida. The Company is acting as the investment advisor to raise the necessary funding for the project through the Company's commercial financing contacts and will receive equity. The Company is also in discussions with several on-line gaming companies to secure a license agreement and intends to develop an Online Casino and Website that will include blackjack, roulette, craps, pai gow, poker and slots.
In March, the Company formed TS&B Ventures, Inc., a Florida corporation, to develop a series of investment partnerships that will be instrumental in financing associated transactions for TS&B. The Company is currently exploring the acquisition of a site prep company in Central Florida with revenues of $18M and is in negotiations with a custom millwork & casework manufacturing company in the southeast with revenues of $7M, and combined net income of approximately $2.5M. Management anticipates raising up to $5,000,000 in fresh capital through sub-debt and hybrid securities to fund transactions of this nature. TS&B Ventures is currently in contact with several large hedge funds and is working to structure one of several offerings for acquisitions.
In May, the Company is closing on Cummings Financial. The Company will own a 51% equity interest in the business and will provide management services. Cummings Financial Services is a residential mortgage company started in 1998. The company employs 20 people. In 2003 they processed $26.5M in loans with gross revenues from fees in excess of $850K. CFS has financing relationships with over 450 financial institutions allowing them the ability to guarantee their clients the lowest possible rate. They have a secondary revenue source through their relationship with a Title Company. The Company intends to integrate its commercial mortgage business into Cummings Financial.
Revenue Streams
The Company's first priority is to grow revenue through portfolio investments and to expand the base of such investments. As previously released the company projects approximately $2M in revenue from Buehler Earth and Waterworks and in excess of $1M from Cummings Financial Services. Additional revenue will come from Sports Nation, Gulf Coast Records and TS&B Gaming as well as management fees charged to the portfolio companies.
The Company anticipates meeting its cash needs through revenue from its portfolio acquisitions, financial consulting services, commercial real estate transactions and leveraging its relationships with other companies within its other revenue divisions.
In closing I would again like to thank our stockholders for their continued patience as we navigate the OTCBB landscape. When we began the journey to develop this business plan, our sources of revenue were very limited. We adopted a plan which was very expensive for our stockholders from a viewpoint of dilution but one which included our then present stockholders rather than excluding them. The Company has sold 50,000,000 shares of stock to raise the money for investment in the companies mentioned and to finance the continuation of the business plan as we have presented it. We will continue to raise funds by the best means possible to finance acquisitions and investments that we believe will provide stockholder value. We value your support and will be making a better effort to communicate to stockholders as we make advances in executing our plan.


TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Plan to Enter $5 Billion Dollar Interactive Gaming Industry

ORLANDO, Fla., Apr 29, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB) today announced it has entered into preliminary talks to acquire online gaming software from Chimera Technology Corp. ("Chimera") (Pink Sheets:CNOC) (http://www.chimeratechnology.com).
TS&B subsidiary, TS&B Gaming & Entertainment Corp., intends to develop an Online Casino and Website that will include blackjack, roulette, craps, pai gow and slots, among others. The Company will continue to review other potential acquisitions and software as talks continue with Chimera Technology Corp. TS&B Gaming & Entertainment Corp., a wholly owned subsidiary, was created solely for the purpose of positioning the Company in the $600 billion dollar Gaming Industry.
The CEO of TS&B Holdings, Inc. James E. Jenkins stated, "we are very excited about the opportunity with Chimera. Interactive gaming or 'iGaming' as it is commonly referred to, has quickly become the internet's second most profitable business environment. Millions of people the world over have discovered an exciting, safe and convenient form of virtual entertainment accessible from the comforts of their home, 24hours a day, 7 days a week."
According to industry analysts iGaming as a global industry has in fact become so large, so fast, that analysts from the likes of Bear Sterns and Datamonitor have been forced to reevaluate annual growth forecasts. Conservatively pegged at $5 billion today, the iGaming market is predicted to be somewhere in the neighborhood of $7-10 billion next year, with the stunning forecast of US $125 billion for the year 2015.


TS&B Holdings, Inc., Announces Rescission of 37,596,000 Shares of Common Stock

ORLANDO, Fla., Apr 19, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- The CEO of TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB), James E. Jenkins, announced the Company filed a Form 8K with the Securities and Exchange Commission in connection with the rescission of an investment agreement and cancellation of share issuance. The shares will be cancelled and returned to the Transfer Agent.
Mr. Jenkins stated, "The rescission of these shares will provide us with the ability to reduce the amount of shares outstanding and enable the company to move forward with planned acquisitions in the newly formed TS&B Gaming and Entertainment Corporation subsidiary. Our goal is to develop substantial revenues and add shareholder value over the next 12 months through a strategic series of planned acquisitions."


TS&B Holdings Inc. Announces Partnership to Develop Thoroughbred Race Track and Pari-mutuel Gaming Facility

ORLANDO, Fla., Mar 31, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB) today announced it's subsidiary, TS&B Gaming & Entertainment Inc., signed a Letter of Intent with a Florida corporation to jointly develop a World Class Thoroughbred Race Track and Pari-mutuel Gaming Facility in Central Florida.
Phase One includes a World Class one-mile oval racetrack for Thoroughbred racing and a 660-yard chute for Quarter horse racing. The track will include the latest in audio and visual equipment to enhance the betting and viewing of races. The clubhouse and grandstand are planned to provide interior seating of approximately 6,100 with an additional 560 seats in the dining room and lounge with the exterior seating planned for approximately 2,000 permanent seats. The clubhouse and grandstand will feature food courts, restaurants, a group dining room and several lounges and bar areas. A theater is also planned to accommodate 2,000 plus patrons for wagering on remote (off-track) Pari-mutuel events. The facility is designed to function independent of the clubhouse. In addition to the main clubhouse, the backstretch area will provide stables and supporting facilities for approximately 1,500 horses with the ability to expand to more than 2,000 horses and will also provide housing and dining facilities for the jockeys, groomer, handlers, etc.
The build-out is estimated in excess of $100 Million. Although casino gambling is not legal in Florida at this time, the Club House and Hotel site are being designed to handle various types of modified gaming that is anticipated in the future. At present the Pari-mutuel Gaming facility is designed to have a poker room, as permitted in Florida.
First year revenue is projected at approximately $56 Million with anticipated Net Income of approximately $38 Million. As previously mentioned, vacation and recreation destinations are becoming extremely popular. Mr. Jenkins, the CEO of TS&B has prior experience in the gaming industry with Gamex Industries, Inc., (a publicly traded company in the early 1980s) and has previously worked as a consultant with the developer.
The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "We are very excited that Compass Capital has helped the Company position itself to enter the $600 billion dollar Gaming Industry. There is an untapped market here in Central Florida for this type of facility given the tremendous amount of tourism and growth. Unlike Indian Casinos that pay no taxes, this project will generate significant tax dollars for the state and county."


Growth Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Completed Acquisition of Sports Merchandise Company in Billion Dollar Memorabilia Merchandising Market Space

ORLANDO, Fla., Feb 11, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB) announced it recently completed the acquisition of Sports Nation, Inc., a sports memorabilia marketing company located in Las Vegas.
Sports Nation is involved in all aspects of the sports memorabilia merchandising industry. The market for sports memorabilia exceeds $1 billion and is extremely fragmented. The company management has over 50 years of combined experience in product development, licensing, mass merchandise, retail and direct marketing & sales. Through years of specializing in sourcing and selling the finest caliber sports memorabilia and collectible products, Sports Nation has forged numerous strategic relationships with companies and individuals in sports marketing, including agents and athletes, manufacturers, authenticators and retailers. Sports Nation has a rapid deployment plan ready to implement for new products, distribution and market penetration for 2004.
TS&B Holdings CEO James E. Jenkins stated, "We're excited to have added Sports Nation to our family of companies. Sports are an important part of American culture, with generations of fans sharing special memories. Sports Nation is an important acquisition for TS&B, as we see numerous cross marketing strategies and synergies within our network."

[This message has been edited by cabbage22 (edited May 18, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
Cabbage:

I think the O/S is key here also.

 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
The OS is key- many people are posting 79MM, when its probably close to 129MM- in a recent PR it was stated they sold 50MM to finance their recent acquisitions.

This puts the market cap at $516,000 @ pps .004, 129MM OS

Many People dont realize that this coming report is the 3RD QUARTER, TSBB runs on a different fiscal year than most companies. All these acquisitions that I outlined above, will greatly increase revenues some 300-400% based on projections of Buehler Earth alone, not to mention all the other companies.
 


Posted by Smctbone on :
 
Regarding the thoroughbred race track and gaming facility PR: Do we know the name of the company TSBB joined up with for the endeavour? I know this would be big here in Central Florida...just wondering if there have been any rumors out there about this development.
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Im not sure who they're teaming up with- if anyone. Im pretty sure they will use their own construction company to build it- and there was mention of buying online gambling stuff from CNOC

Check out Glenn Cummings website- hes gonna make us rich!
http://www.glenncummings.net/

[This message has been edited by cabbage22 (edited May 19, 2004).]
 


Posted by WiseTrader on :
 
This one is a gut feeling... talk about bottom low.. and what has gone way down, must come way back up! Especially after delisting the Berlin Exchange where they will be sued off their Asses from all that shorting! Those companies that are being investigated will end up paying for the damage! For now, you can thank them to get in or average down.. I have been in since .017..

Look at UVCL.. I got in a bit late, at .022, it went down to .008, I paniced and thought this company is going nowhere.. I sold at .009.. had over 15 grand in this! Lost a bundle.. just a couple days ago it ran to .039! The MMS are just waiting for me to panic and sell again!! HELL NO! I'm stayin in and holding for deal life!!
 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Im not sure who they're teaming up with- if anyone. Im pretty sure they will use their own construction company to build it- and there was mention of buying online gambling stuff from CNOC

Check out Glenn Cummings website- hes gonna make us rich!
http://www.glenncummings.net/

[This message has been edited by cabbage22 (edited May 19, 2004).]


He sounds pretty good. I ain't gay or nothin', but he's a looker, too. Is it just a coincidence that this company is involved with another company also named Cummings? What's the deal with that? Are they related?


 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces it Will No Longer be Trading on the Berlin Stock Exchange as of Close of Business May 18, 2004

ORLANDO, Fla., May 19, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB), announced that it received confirmation that as of close of business on May 18, 2004, the Berlin Exchange will no longer permit the trading of TS&B Holdings, Inc. As previously announced, trading on the Berlin Exchange was never authorized by TSBB.

The CEO of Company, James E. Jenkins stated, "We appreciate the cooperation of the Berlin Exchange in terminating the Berlin listing."

About TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings Inc., is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries.



 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
I've been watchin this board for about a month now and like what I see, thought I'd start posting stuff ... news this morning out, off the berlin exchange confirmation


TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces it Will No Longer be Trading on the Berlin Stock Exchange as of Close of Business May 18, 2004

5/19/2004 9:15:41 AM


ORLANDO, Fla., May 19, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB) , announced that it received confirmation that as of close of business on May 18, 2004, the Berlin Exchange will no longer permit the trading of TS&B Holdings, Inc. As previously announced, trading on the Berlin Exchange was never authorized by TSBB.

The CEO of Company, James E. Jenkins stated, "We appreciate the cooperation of the Berlin Exchange in terminating the Berlin listing."

About TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings Inc., is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries.

Safe Harbor

The statements made in this release constitute "forward-looking" statements, usually containing the words "believe," "estimate," "project," "expect," or similar expressions. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, changing economic conditions, interest rates trends, continued acceptance of the Company's products in the marketplace, competitive factors and other risks detailed in the Company's periodic report Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this release.

SOURCE: TS&B Holdings Inc.

Honeycutt Capital Group, LLC.
(918) 392-0336
Honeycuttcapital@hotmail.com



 


Posted by Smctbone on :
 
Volume seems low, that may be from the three months I've been staring at QBID, but how hard would it be to sell with these low volumes? (Sorry, still a newbie). How much do you guys own? Thanks!
GLTA
 
Posted by Quality Joe on :
 
The hope is that due to the close of the Berlin exchange trading this stock, the shorts there are going to have to cover.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
It seems to me that this company is positioning itself to be a real player. They are definitely taking the time to inform the investors as to what is going on and that is a plus. I think it is just a matter of time before this little gem gets the recognition it needs for it to really take off. I am being conservative when I say it will hit .10 real soon.

I tried to buy some more this morning but Ameritrade still has a hold on my last deposit, so I am unable to purchase non-marginable securites right now. I was hoping to buy some more at these ridiculously low prices. Maybe tomorrow.

[This message has been edited by platapuss (edited May 19, 2004).]
 


Posted by Quality Joe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
It seems to me that this company is positioning itself to be a real player. They are definitely taking the time to inform the investors as to what is going on and that is a plus. I think it is just a matter of time before this little gem gets the recognition it needs for it to really take off. I am being conservative when I say it will hit .10 real soon.

I tried to but some more this morning but Ameritrade still has a hold on my last deposit, so I am unable to purchase non-marginable securites right now. I was hoping to buy some more at these ridiculously low prices. Maybe tomorrow.



Doesn't seem that these levels will hold. I am seeing .0053 on the ask. I bought in about .0063, but that is still going to look like a good price soon.


 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
And of course I missed my fill to average down....managed to catch IDGE early though
 
Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
She's a movin'!!!
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
Is it possible that the train is now leaving!
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Is it possible that the train is now leaving!

It is leaving and now I am mad because I could not but this morning. Sometimes Ameritrade makes me mad!


 


Posted by Quality Joe on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Is it possible that the train is now leaving!

Possible? There's a good chance she's not stopping
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Well what was that about? Did someone forget to board the train so the the conductor is nice to enough to stop and backup so that person can get on! Better board now...hint, hint!
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Could easily breakout to .007 later today- everyone has been watching and waiting for the reversal
 
Posted by YunGFree on :
 
What's a good point to sell this thing?
 
Posted by mamboking on :
 
I'm in.
Lets go TSBB.........
GLA
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by YunGFree:
What's a good point to sell this thing?

Anytime you have made a decent profit is a good time and only you can decide when you have made a decent profit. For me it's going to be .10 maybe more.

 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Here we go
 
Posted by yes on :
 
Loaded up with some more earlier.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
The more and more DD that I do on this company them more excited I get. This stock is going to go straight to the moon! I am not trying to hype this stock because I am hyped myself, this is for real people. Do your own DD and you will realize the HUGE potential behind this company.

The future is so bright...I have to where my shades!
 


Posted by will on :
 
OK, this unpopular, but it is what I see here. This doesn't appear that it can sustain a big run yet. I am going to sell half my position at .007, and buy back on a pullback, if there is one.
 
Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
Earth shaker, you da man!!!

New HOD .0059
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
The Ceo of TSBB knows this company's PPS is severely undervalued. Heck he even released a PR about this very subject.

FROM A PREVIOUS PR found at YAHOO.com financial


I wish to thank all our shareholders and investors who have stuck with TS&B through this turbulent time, both in the U.S., and all over the world, that are and have supported our efforts. I feel it is essential that the current shareholders and prospective investors are aware that TS&B is executing its strategic business plan to improve shareholder value. TS&B is not just ``another'' OTCBB company.

The stock market has not been responsive to TSBB. It is the Company's position that due to the trading volume that TSBB has experienced over the past few months the Company has been targeted by ``SHORTERS'', and that our stock is severely undervalued at current levels. The Company and the management are not selling stock. 1E shares are one method BDCs use to raise investment cash. The Company cannot stop investors of 1E stock from selling when they choose. The Company believes the per-share price should be in the $.03 to $.05 range, the share price was recently at $.05. The Company knows the only way to rid TSBB of the ``SHORTERS'' is to acquire assets, revenue and show earnings. The Company is taking the steps necessary to fulfill those requirements. The Company also needs to have sustained retail buying. It is our sincere hope that our current shareholders as well as potential investors will see the intrinsic value of TSBB and ``BUY'' at the current levels, which are severely depressed.

Management forecasts that quarterly operating results will increase significantly due to many factors, including the generation of revenue from the Company's recent acquisitions, investments and consulting fees. The Company has also added significant assets to the Company's balance sheet. The Company has hired an independent appraisal firm, Valuation Strategies, Inc., to value the Company's most recent acquisitions and those appraisals will be incorporated into the third quarter financial statements.

****************************************

He also stated how the German Exchange was illegally listing TSBB and that those German Stock Traders were SHORTING the Schitt outta IT!!!

Now that TSBB has been DELISTED from the other Exchange this Stock has only one direction to GO !!! Straight UP baby !!!!

Besides If you were a CEO of a GREAT company with Awsome $$$ Profit Potential wouldnt you do everything in your power to RAISE the PPS to BEST reflect the TRUE speculative VALUE of this truely EXPLOSIVE and FUTURE PROFITABLE business.

Just a few Thoughts From The_EARTH_MAN

P.S. Now that most of the stumbling blocks have been removed and the low PPS is starting to climb I see this Stocks Volume STEADILY INCREASING thus making TSBB a VIABLE investment VEHICLE.

CHEERS - See Plat MAN I wasnt that far OFF !

To quote a great stock trader and Mentor to us ALL : "Due The Due, But Be Quick About It" Thanks for all the insights youve givin us this year DarDaDog.... You are the Man


 


Posted by will on :
 
Good job, Shaker!
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Thanks Booty. But I give DarDaDog and THErealSLIMshady credit for showing me HOW to Find GEMs like TSBB.

The_EARTH_MAN
 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
Cool. I just jumped in on WNMI. She's moving!
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Thanks Will, Good profit today !!

Daytrade this if you will (PUN INTENDED) but still GOOD PROFIT today !!!!
 


Posted by will on :
 
Not yet, .007, see my earlier post.

quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Thanks Will, Good profit today !!

Daytrade this if you will (PUN INTENDED) but still GOOD PROFIT today !!!!



 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
"The Company believes the per-share price should be in the $.03 to $.05 range, the share price was recently at $.05. The Company knows the only way to rid TSBB of the ``SHORTERS'' is to acquire assets, revenue and show earnings. The Company is taking the steps necessary to fulfill those requirements".

I THINK he DID that by DELISTING TSBB from the GERMAN "SHORT" EXCHANGE (ha ha)

FLYYYY...MEE...TO.THE.MOON.

Earth_man
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Earth - you are the man! I never doubted you, especialy after digging into this one myself. Great find by the way! :-)
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Like I said Booty my New Found stock Friend, Make a Quick profit from TSBB then take the FREE shares that you could possibly make and reinvest it back into your Qthang for the Soft Lauch.


Cheers !!!! GLTA
 


Posted by will on :
 
We need to trade over .006, and break that .0059 resistance.
 
Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Like I said Booty my New Found stock Friend, Make a Quick profit from TSBB then take the FREE shares that you could possibly make and reinvest it back into your Qthang for the Soft Lauch.


Cheers !!!! GLTA


Sounds like a plan


 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Thanks Platman. We will see how far she BLOWS !!!!
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
We need to trade over .006, and break that .0059 resistance.

I wonder if it could run to .01 into the close. That would be encouraging!


 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
OH by the WAY ! Qthang IS TANKING today. Congratulations to everyone who had the INSIGHT to make a few dollars on TSBB while tthe Qthang goes SOUTH !

I am still a part of QBID but TSBB was the immediate Profit maker in my oppinion

GO TSBB and GO QBID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
OH by the WAY ! Qthang IS TANKING today. Congratulations to everyone who had the INSIGHT to make a few dollars on TSBB while tthe Qthang goes SOUTH !

I am still a part of QBID but TSBB was the immediate Profit maker in my oppinion

GO TSBB and GO QBID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Q is repeating the exact same pattern it did last week or so. I'm expecting it to plunge Thur or Fri if no PR. Then I'll double my position.


 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
ME TOO. I am hoping to TRIPLE my POSSITION with QBID.
 
Posted by Dardadog on :
 
See everyone's having fun here. This is one of those that blows a bubble with pattern and regularity it seems. In and out at right time makes for big smiley face. Bank.

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!


DaDog
 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by dardadog:
See everyone's having fun here. This is one of those that blows a bubble with pattern and regularity it seems. In and out at right time makes for big smiley face. Bank.



 


Posted by ludinlo on :
 
Do you think we will see at least .0065 today? Volume is nice and high
 
Posted by will on :
 
NO!

quote:
Originally posted by ludinlo:
Do you think we will see at least .0065 today? Volume is nice and high


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Is it a proven fact that TSBB was affected by "Naked Short Selling" and if so is it going to stop now because it has been removed from the Berlin Stock Exchange?

From what I have read, the way to stop this practice is to request the stock certificates so the short sellers must then cover. Can anyone shed any light on this?

Thanks,
Platman
(I like the nick - Thanks Earth!)
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Not a bad close. I just don't like how it's all over the place. It needs to get some stability which I hope happens soon. If I had enough guts I would jump in and out and take some nice profits, but that game is no longer for me. See ya'll tomorrow.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Look at all these press releases for this year. This stock is ready to explode!
www*************/comp_release2.cfm?release_ticker=TSBB

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman

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Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Look at all these press releases for this year. This stock is ready to explode!
www*************/comp_release2.cfm?release_ticker=TSBB



I can't get the link to post no matter what I try. Hmmmmm.

 
Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by platapuss:
[b]Look at all these press releases for this year. This stock is ready to explode!
www*************/comp_release2.cfm?release_ticker=TSBB



I can't get the link to post no matter what I try. Hmmmmm. [/B][/QUOTE]
Try a few spaces in the word. Then, we just delete them and go.

 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
I'll try it again
http://www.w a l l s t f n.com/comp_release2.cfm?release_ticker=TSBB

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Thank you Platman for the DD. Im with you till we hit .05 - .10


 


Posted by Tgrant on :
 
when do you think it will honestly reach these levels?
 
Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
Let's do this!
 
Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
The ask just went up. I hope this is a good indication of things to come
 
Posted by ludinlo on :
 
Are we going to break the .006 today?
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
I hope TSBB moves before the 1st of June ?
 
Posted by YunGFree on :
 
Anybody else seeing it stuck at .0052 and volume not changing (stuck at around 4,000,000)?
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
I have a last of .0054 4.185mm

Still looking to load somewhere in here
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by YunGFree:
Anybody else seeing it stuck at .0052 and volume not changing (stuck at around 4,000,000)?

They had made a statement about the high vol and the price dropping is what led them to believe that it was being shorted. So if the vol dries up, on one hand that's good because the shorting has ceased, but on the other hand it means that there is not any retail buying going on which means the price will not move. We need some good healthy news to get this puppy moving! <IMHO>
 


Posted by ludinlo on :
 
Any suggestions on this one. It's holding it's price. Slowly going up.

Can't decide if I should sell or hold. I bought into UVCL late and now I've lost half my money.

I need to make it back up somewhere. Any good daytrading stock somebody can recommend
 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ludinlo:
Any suggestions on this one. It's holding it's price. Slowly going up.

Can't decide if I should sell or hold. I bought into UVCL late and now I've lost half my money.

I need to make it back up somewhere. Any good daytrading stock somebody can recommend


Qbid will be pretty volatile for a while to come. News expected next week on cable companies picking up their new Gay TV network. It's not for everyone, but I've made BANK! Blew it today by sitting out till it was up 20%.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ludinlo:
Any suggestions on this one. It's holding it's price. Slowly going up.

Can't decide if I should sell or hold. I bought into UVCL late and now I've lost half my money.

I need to make it back up somewhere. Any good daytrading stock somebody can recommend



How long have you had this one? If you just got in it, then you need to have a little patience and hold it longer. If you have already lost money then you need to have in mind when you will sell a stock if it drops a certain %. But if you are jumping in and out of stocks because they don't move as soon as you get in, then you are losing money on comminsions alone. Patience is the key here. If you have done your DD then you will now that this is a winner...it's just a matter of time. Happy Trading!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
10Q due out by June 5th, holding through the report at least, at least!
 
Posted by will on :
 
As we discussed earlier here, it is being filed on an extension, so it can come any day. Wasn't it originally due 5/15?
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
10Q due out by June 5th, holding through the report at least, at least!


 


Posted by ludinlo on :
 
Thanks for the advice. I will hold and hope for the best.

I bought in at .0045 so I'm in a good position.


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Like I mentioned yesterday in regards to vol. Since it seems to have dropped off that would be a good indication that the "Naked Shorting" has ceased. Now all we need is some good news, which we will get soon, to get this train moving.

The news we are expecting:
- Realease of the 10Q
- News about Glenn Cummings new album being released
- Possibilty of more aquisitions

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
It might be wise to average down during these slow periods (even though you have a great entry price already). The thing I like about holding companies is they produce a lot of PR's with all the companies they have.

I expect some Glenn Cummings news, and Gambling news in the near future

quote:
Originally posted by ludinlo:
Thanks for the advice. I will hold and hope for the best.

I bought in at .0045 so I'm in a good position.



 


Posted by Dardadog on :
 
http://xml.10kwizard.com/filing_raw.php?repo=tenk&ipage=2809705

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!


DaDog
 


Posted by ludinlo on :
 
Sorry new to the game. Does this report that Dog showed a good thing?
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ludinlo:
Sorry new to the game. Does this report that Dog showed a good thing?

I need to really look into it, but one thing is for sure...they won't be having an "E" added!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by will on :
 
Form 10QSB for TS B HOLDINGS INC


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

21-May-2004

Quarterly Report


Item 7. Management's Discussion and Analysis of Financial Condition and Resultof Operations.
The following information should be read in conjunction with our consolidatedfinancial statements and notes thereto appearing elsewhere in this Form 10-Q.

Forward Looking Statements

This Form 10-Q including the Management's Discussion and Analysis of FinancialCondition and Results of Operation contains forward-looking statements thatinvolve substantial risk and uncertainties. These forward-looking statements arenot historical facts but rather are based on current expectations, estimates andprojections about the Company's industry, beliefs, and assumptions. Suchforward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could causerisks or outcomes to differ materially from those expressed in theforward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements may include withoutlimitation statements relating to the Company's plans, strategies, objectives,expectations and intentions and are intended to be made pursuant to the SafeHarbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Wordssuch as "anticipates", "expects", "intends", "plans", "believes", "seeks", and"estimates" and variations of these words and similar expressions are intendedto identify forward-looking statements. These statements are not guarantees offuture performance and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and otherfactors, some of which are beyond our control and difficult to predict and couldcause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or forecasted inthe forward-looking statements including without limitation:

o The state of securities markets in which the securities of the Company's

portfolio company trade or could be traded.

o Liquidity within the national financial markets.

o Economic downturns or recessions may impair the Company's customers' ability to repay our loans and increase our non-performing assets.

o A contraction of available credit and/or inability to access the equity

markets could impair our lending and investment activities.


o The risks associated with the possible disruption in the Company's operations due to terrorism and,


o The risks and uncertainties described under the caption "Risk Factors and Other Considerations" contained in Part I, Item I, which is incorporated herein by reference.

Although the assumptions on which these forward looking statements are based arereasonable, any of those assumptions also could be incorrect. In light of theseand other uncertainties, the inclusion of a projection or forward-lookingstatements in this Quarterly Report should be regarded as a representation ofthe Company that its plans and objectives will be achieved. Undue relianceshould not be placed on these forward-looking statements, which apply only as ofthe date of this Quarterly Report.

Overview

TS&B Holdings, Inc. is a financial service company providing financing andadvisory services to small and medium-sized companies throughout the UnitedStates. Effective January 5, 2004 the Company shareholders approved the proposalto allow the Company to convert to a business development company ("BDC") underthe Investment Company Act of 1940 ("1940 Act").

The Company's investments in portfolio companies typically range from $100,000to $1,000,000. The Company invests either directly in the equity of a companythrough equity shares or through a debt instrument. The Company's debtinstruments usual do not have a maturity of not more than five years. Interestis either currently paid or deferred.

Investment opportunities are identified for the Company by the management team.Investment proposals may, however, come to the Company from many sources, andmay include unsolicited proposals from the public and from referrals from banks,lawyers, accountants and other members of the financial community. Themanagement team brings an extensive network of investment referralrelationships.

Critical Accounting Policies and Estimates

The Company prepared its financial statements in accordance with accountingprinciples generally accepted in the United States of America for investmentcompanies. For a summary of all of its significant accounting policies,including the critical accounting policies, see Note A to the consolidatedfinancial statements in Item 8.


The increasing complexity of the business environment and applicableauthoritative accounting guidance requires the Company to closely monitor itsaccounting policies. The Company has identified three critical accountingpolicies that require significant judgment. The following summary of theCompany's critical accounting policies is intended to enhance your ability toassess its financial condition and results of operation and the potentialvolatility due to changes in estimates.

Valuation of Investments

At March 31, 2004 76.5% of the Company's total assets represented investmentsrecorded at fair value. Value as defined in Section 2(a)(41) of the 1940 Act, is(i) the market price for those securities for which a market quotation isreadily available and (ii) for all other securities and assets, fair value isdetermined in good faith by the board of directors. Since there is typically noreadily ascertainable market value for the investments in its portfolio, theCompany values substantially all of its investments at fair value as determinedin good faith by the board of directors pursuant to a valuation policy andconsistent valuation process. Because of the inherent uncertainty in determiningthe fair value of investments that do not have a readily ascertainable marketvalue, the fair value of its investments determined in good faith by the boardof directors may differ significantly from the values that would have been usedhad a ready market existed for the investments, and the differences could bematerial.

Initially, the fair value of each such portfolio investment is based uponoriginal cost. There is no single standard for determining fair value in goodfaith. As a result, determining fair value requires the judgment be applied tothe specific facts and circumstances of each portfolio investment. The Board ofDirectors considers fair value to be the amount which the Company may reasonableexpect to receive for portfolio securities when sold on the valuation date. TheCompany analyzes and values each individual investment on a quarterly basis, andrecords unrealized depreciation for an investment that it believes has becomeimpaired, including where collection of a loan or realization of an equitysecurity is doubtful. Conversely, the Company will record unrealizedappreciation if it believes that the underlying portfolio company hasappreciated in value and, therefore, the Company's equity security has alsoappreciated in value. Without a readily ascertainable market value and becauseof the inherent uncertainty of valuation the fair value of the Company'sinvestments determined in good faith by the Board of Directors may differsignificantly from the values that would have been used had a ready marketexisted for the investments, and the favorable or unfavorable differences couldbe material.

In the valuation process, the Company uses financial information receivedmonthly, quarterly, and annually from the portfolio companies, which includeboth audited, and unaudited financial information supplied by portfoliocompanies management. This information is used to determine financial condition,performance and valuation of the portfolio investments. Valuation should bereduced if a company's performance and potential have significantlydeteriorated. If the factors, which led to the reduction in valuation, areovercome, the valuation may be restated.


Another key factor used in valuation the equity investments is recentarms-length equity transactions entered into by the investment company that theCompany utilizes to form a basis for its underlying value. Many times the termsof these equity transactions may not be identical to those of the Company andthe impact on these variations as it relates to market value may be impossibleto quantify.

Any changes in estimated fair value are recorded in our statements of operationsas "Net increase (decrease) in unrealized (deprecation) appreciation."

Valuation of Equity Securities

With respect to private equity securities, each investment is valued usingindustry valuation benchmarks and then the value is assigned a discountreflecting the illiquid nature of the investment, as well as the Company'sminority non-control positions. When an external event such as a purchasetransaction, public offering, or subsequent equity sale occurs, the pricingindicated by the external event will be used to corroborate the Company'sprivate equity valuation. Securities that are traded in the over-the-countermarket or on a stock exchange will generally be valued at the prevailing bidprice on the valuation date. However, restricted and unrestricted publiclytraded securities may be valued at discounts from the public market value due torestrictions on sale, the size of its investment or market liquidity concerns.

Valuation of Loans and Debt Securities

As a general rule, the Company does not value its loans or debt securities abovecost, but loans and debt securities will be subject to fair value write-downwhen the asset is considered impaired.

Financial Condition

The Company's total consolidated assets increased by $1,607,035 or (511%) to$1,921,476. The increase in total assets can be attributed to the increase inthe fair market value of the Company's assets from electing BDC status.

The Company's financial condition is dependent on the success of its portfolioholdings. It has invested a substantial portion of its assets in small andmedium-sized companies. These businesses tend to be thinly capitalized, smallcompanies that may lack experienced management. The following summaries theCompany's investment portfolio as of March 31, 2004, the Company's first quarteras a business development corporation


March 31, 2004 --------------Investment at Cost $ 465,711 Unrealized (depreciation) appreciation, net 1,004,389 --------------Investment's at fair value $1,470,100 --------------


The increase in investments at cost is due to the $504,130 of new investmentsmade with a combination of stock and cash in the first quarter of 2004 by theCompany.

The increase in unrealized appreciation is primarily attributable to due to theincreased in value placed on the Company's portfolio investments.

During the first quarter of 2004, the Company valued its equity and investmentholdings in accordance with the established valuation policies (see "Valuationof Investments and Equity Holdings") above.

The Company's total investments at fair value, whose values have been estimatedby the Board of Directors, approximated 76.5% of net assets at March 31, 2004.

The cash and cash equivalents approximated 6.8% of net assets as of March 31,2004.

The effect of the change in unrealized appreciation on investments resulted in anet increase in net deferred tax liability from $ — 0 — at March 31, 2003 to anet deferred tax liability of $390,000 at March 31, 2004.

Results of Operations

The results of operations for the quarter ended March 31, 2004 reflect ourresults as a business development company under the Investment Company Act of1940. The results of operations prior to January 1, 2004 reflect our results ofoperations prior to operating as a business development company under theInvestment Company Act of 1940. The principal differences between these tworeporting period relate to accounting for investments and income taxes. See NoteA to our Consolidated Financial Statements. In addition, certain prior yearitems have been reclassified to conform to the current year presentation as abusiness development company.

Dividends and Interest

Dividends and interest income on investments for the quarter ended March 31,2004 and nine month period ended March 31, 2004 was $37,100 and $56,845respectively. The increase in interest and dividends was primarily due to theinterest income accrued from investments in Buehler Earth and Waterworks, LLCand Gulf Coast Records, LLC.

Management Fees

Management fees for the quarter ended March 31, 2004 and nine month period endedMarch 31, 2004 was $ 10,000 and $10,000 respectively. The management fees wereprimarily due to the management fees for services rendered to Buehler Earth andWaterworks, LLC and Gulf Coast Records, LLC.

Operating Expenses

Total operating expenses for the quarter ended March 31, 2004 and nine monthperiod ended March 31, 2004 was $242,762 and $625,736. A significant componentof total operating expenses was professional fees of $162,937 for the threemonths ended March 31, 2004 and $514,599 for the nine months ended March 31,2004. A second component of operating expenses was general and administrativeexpense of $79,825 for the three month ended March 31, 2004 and $111,137 for thenine months ended March 31, 2004.


Liquidity and Capital Resources

At March 31, 2004 and March 31, 2003, we had $131,610 and $1,208 respectively incash and cash equivalents. The Company's objective is to have sufficient cash onhand to cover current funding requirements and operations.

The Company expects its cash on hand and cash generated from operations to beadequate to meet our cash needs at our current level of operations, includingthe next twelve months. The Company generally funds new originations using cashon hand and equity financing and outside investments.

Private Portfolio Company Investments

The following is a list of the private companies in which we had an investmentand the cost and fair market value of such securities at March 31, 2004


Name of Company Cost FMV ----------------------------------------- -------------- ------------Buehler Earth & Waterworks, LLC $ 0 $ 260,000 Sports Nation, Inc. 25,000 95,000 Gulf Coast Records, LLC 0 350,000 TSB Financial Services, Inc. 0 250,000 Wellstone Acquisition Corporation 632 75,000 KMA Capital Partners, Ltd. 440,000 440,000 TS & B Gaming & Entertainment Corporation 79 100 Total $465,711 $1,470,100

Recent Developments

On March 23, 2004 the Company signed a letter of intent with Osceola Downs, Inc.to act as consultants to raise debt and equity and make an investment into apara-mutual facility in Central Florida. The total project is estimated to cost$110,000,000. The Company's investment in the project will be made part of anewly formed subsidiary of the Company called TS & B Gaming & Entertainment,Inc.

In May 2004, the Company rescinded the sale of its stock to an entity. Under theterms of the original agreement, the Company would issue 49,318,597 of itscommon stock for total proceeds of $500,000. As of March 31, 2004 the Companyhad received $137,500 for the issuance of such stock. The entity has returnedand the Company has cancelled 24,818,597 shares and is in the process of havinganother 12,777,403 shares returned to the Company and cancelled.


On May 5, 2004 Buehler Earth and Waterworks, LLC formed BEW Landscape &Irrigation LLC ("BEW Landscape"). BEW Landscape will be involved in thewholesale distribution of palms trees and other nursery products.

On May 13, 2004 the Company agreed to acquire a 51% interest in CummingsFinancial Services, Inc. (a Florida licensed mortgage broker and financialservices entity) for a purchase price of $130,000.


 


Posted by ludinlo on :
 
What is an "E"
 
Posted by will on :
 
Was on this thread, btw.

quote:
Originally posted by will:
The "E" added to end means they are not in compliance with SEC Filings. It appears there until they comply.



 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ludinlo:
Sorry new to the game. Does this report that Dog showed a good thing?

Other than the o/s(which is not to bad), it looks pretty good to me. I am holding til atleast .05.

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by will on :
 
I left yas at .005. I don't see a run coming here. If it goes below .004 I'll get back in.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
I left yas at .005. I don't see a run coming here. If it goes below .004 I'll get back in.

I have to disagree with you. There is one comming and it is comming soon. I don't believe you will be seeing .004 again. <IMHO>

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Platman I'M WITH YOU ON THAT NOTE !!!!
 
Posted by mainstay on :
 
This looks like it could be a nice play. I just jumped in today.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
I have to disagree with you. There is one coming and it is coming soon. I don't believe you will be seeing .004 again. <IMHO>


------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
mainstay GOOD decision !!!

VERY BRIGHT FUTURE for TSBB

GREAT MANAGEMENT on this COMPANY

.05 before the end of the year maybe sooner then we think !!!

10 bagger is always a good thing

PATIENCE = PROFITS
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
This company has roughly 250 million OS. Not bad considering most Pennystocks that I have been looking at have BILLIONS outstanding shares NOT MILLIONS. For example QBID has about 8 BILLION OS. GFYF has in excess of 1 BILLION OS. ETC.. ETC..And HOW ABOUT a reputable company that is NOT a PENNY stock, SIRI valued at over $3.00 a share with 1.2 BILLION OS. And SIRI is not even profitable. In fact they wont be profitable for at least 2 - 3 years.

Put these numbers into consideration and also consider the GREAT potential for Profit with TSBB.

1. QBID 8 BILLION outstanding shares
2. GFYF 1 BILLION outstanding shares
3. SIRI 1.2 BILLION outstandg shares

And there many more not listed in the BILLIONS OS range. You do the DD.

TSBB ARE centering themselves in the:

A. ONLINE GAMBLING biz, TS & B Gaming & Entertainment Corporation
B. $100,000,000 Parmutual Race Track
C. sports Memorabilia BIZ, Sports Nation Inc
D. Record Label - Gulf Coast Records LLC, with emerging Country music SUPER STAR.
D. Finance company, TSB Financial Services Inc
F. Mortgage company, CUMMINGS FINANCIAL
E. Construction Company, Buehler Earth and Waterworks.

And TSBB is still acquiring PROSPECTIVE interests.

.0050 is a BARGAIN let me repeat myself .0050 is a BARGAIN !!!!

.05 will become a reality in due TIME.

Earth_Man
 


Posted by mainstay on :
 
Nice post Earth_Shaker... Is the 78,946,700 o/s with a float of 52 mil still up to date? Just wondering, since that's the latest data I have. I see they only have 100 mil authorized as well.
 
Posted by mainstay on :
 
ah, missed that first line in your post. 250 mil still not many o/s. Do you know the current float?
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
OS is 236,265,297

LOOK AT THE ASSETS! 1.9million a 511% increase

Trading under book value! Now I can quantify what the CEO said in the PR!
 


Posted by mainstay on :
 
thanks I need to start doing DD on this one. I'm new to TSBB as you can tell.
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
POSITIVE stockholder's equity from negative
Net Income positive instead of negative .0003 EPS up from (.04)
Assets up 511%
CASH FLOW POSITIVE-

Too bad its a friday, the market should digest this over the weekend and monday will be nice- maybe a PR to boot

[This message has been edited by cabbage22 (edited May 22, 2004).]
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
OS is 236,265,297

LOOK AT THE ASSETS! 1.9million a 511% increase

Trading under book value! Now I can quantify what the CEO said in the PR!


Yeah !!! Severely Undervalued. Should be trading in the .03 - .05 range. I think the German stock exchange did a number on this one. And TSBB won't correct itself until IT has become BETTER Known by the general Inventment community or a GREAT PR is released thus increasing AWARENESS of this GEM !!!!

PATIENCE = PROFITS $$


 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Cabbage, you and I are on the same WAVELENGTH . Do you know that I was writing the previous POST at the same time you were.

WOW .. SPOOKY !!!!

P.S. I am getting the word out on RB. Next week should be interesting.

Earth_Man
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
BB penny heaven is talking I H U B
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
BB penny heaven is talking I H U B

Whats there web address ?


 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Does anyone know the difference between

.ob and .pk

example CMKX.pk and TSBB.ob ?????
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=2199
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
OB is the Over the counter Bulletin Board, where you need to meet SEC requirements. PK is pink sheets, where they do not need to file with the SEC, both use the same market makers to trade

quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Does anyone know the difference between

.ob and .pk

example CMKX.pk and TSBB.ob ?????



 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
.ob is BETTER yess ????
 
Posted by Zeker on :
 
This stock is a no-brainer. It's trading at nearly half its book value, and showing black ink. The book value on this puppy is .008! This is way undervalued- esp. when compared to the likes of Netflix, which is trading at a 768+ multiple: I'd be very happy with a 7.68 multiple.
 
Posted by Zeker on :
 
Earth Shaker, this is in response to your earlier question: http://www.pinksheetstock.com/pink_sheet_stock_what_investor.html
 
Posted by morehair on :
 
On the learn as you go program...what is the FLOAT again?...
 
Posted by Zeker on :
 
The float's the # of outstanding shares, minus the shares owned by insiders, 5% owners, and Rule 144 shares.
 
Posted by morehair on :
 
got it...thanks...i'll have to read up on it some more.
 
Posted by Zeker on :
 
Basically, the float is the number of shares in the hands of, or available to, the general public for trading on any given day.
 
Posted by morehair on :
 
the less is more philosophy; supply and demand and all that. Got it.
 
Posted by will on :
 
OK, Y'all convinced me. I'm back in at my original average, .0048.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
Plenty of Buying into the close. Look forward to next week. Happy Trading and have a good weekend.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman

[This message has been edited by platapuss (edited May 21, 2004).]
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
I lIke this statement:

"The Company expects its cash on hand and cash generated from operations to be adequate to meet our cash needs at our current level of operations, including the next twelve months. The Company generally funds new originations using cash on hand and equity financing and outside investments".

That is a very positive statement IMHO of course.

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
I missed that part, but yes that is EXREMELY good news. This means as is, they will NOT need to issue S-8 shares, unless they use them to acquire additional companies.

Jenkins has built a very nice company here, much improved over 1 year ago- And so much to look foward to in the coming weeks!

Im going to dive into this 10Q tomorrow- we should see a gapper monday!

JMHO

quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
I lIke this statement:

"The Company expects its cash on hand and cash generated from operations to be adequate to meet our cash needs at our current level of operations, including the next twelve months. The Company generally funds new originations using cash on hand and equity financing and outside investments".

That is a very positive statement IMHO of course.


[This message has been edited by cabbage22 (edited May 22, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by cabbage22 (edited May 22, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
QUESTION ???

I have been reading that the naked shorting has ceased on TSSB. Wouldn't that be the naked shorting that was taking place on the Berlin Exchange. Given that they might have been the most flagrant offenders, but is it / could it still be going on here? Also, is there a strong possibility that TSBB might be a target of shorters now that they have openly complained. Kinda, sorta, MM's thinking let's teach these whiners a lesson. I have seen that theory alluded to on the message board, complainers get spanked. Is it possible or am I misunderstanding something in this scenario?
 


Posted by mainstay on :
 
The company is taking the step mentioned below which should help. Revenge is always a possibility, but the naked short-sellers have a lot of unwanted attention right now, so maybe it is over, in the near term anyway. However, I would like to see the company take an additional step, if they have not already done so. To make certain that they won't be listed on any other foreign exchange they have not authorized to be listed on. The Berlin Exchange is unregulated. Not all foreign exchanges are, so it will make things more difficult for them imo. They will eventually figure out a new way to naked short stocks, until the SEC decides to get off its butt, and closes all the loopholes.

"The Company recently changed Transfer Agents from Atlas Transfer Company to Transfer Online, Portland, Oregon. Transfer Online certificates are a new color and have a barcode. The Company will be issuing a request to all shareholders of record to redeem their shares from their broker and take hard certificates in their possession and then send the certificates to Transfer Online for new certificates."

 


Posted by will on :
 
Respectfully, is not naive to think, "but the naked short-sellers have a lot of unwanted attention right now, so maybe it is over, in the near term anyway." Everyone was looking forward to April 1, for the rule changes. Since, I haven't noticed anything dramatically different, and I continue to hear the same complaints from others here, when their stocks tank, "those filthy MM's shrting my play". There even is thread dedicated to the notorius behavior of NITE.

quote:
Originally posted by mainstay:
The company is taking the step mentioned below which should help. Revenge is always a possibility, but the naked short-sellers have a lot of unwanted attention right now, so maybe it is over, in the near term anyway. However, I would like to see the company take an additional step, if they have not already done so. To make certain that they won't be listed on any other foreign exchange they have not authorized to be listed on. The Berlin Exchange is unregulated. Not all foreign exchanges are, so it will make things more difficult for them imo. They will eventually figure out a new way to naked short stocks, until the SEC decides to get off its butt, and closes all the loopholes.

"The Company recently changed Transfer Agents from Atlas Transfer Company to Transfer Online, Portland, Oregon. Transfer Online certificates are a new color and have a barcode. The Company will be issuing a request to all shareholders of record to redeem their shares from their broker and take hard certificates in their possession and then send the certificates to Transfer Online for new certificates."



 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Regulation SHO has put a stop to naked shorting in the US- and the change of transfer agent should help the affimative determination issue. Shorters are not likely to target TSBB anymore- theres no room for it to drop anymore (they already worked it from .05 to .004) and the positive financials will deter shorters as more people buy on the increased valuation.

Good question though will, its important to explore these possibilities

quote:
Originally posted by will:
QUESTION ???

I have been reading that the naked shorting has ceased on TSSB. Wouldn't that be the naked shorting that was taking place on the Berlin Exchange. Given that they might have been the most flagrant offenders, but is it / could it still be going on here? Also, is there a strong possibility that TSBB might be a target of shorters now that they have openly complained. Kinda, sorta, MM's thinking let's teach these whiners a lesson. I have seen that theory alluded to on the message board, complainers get spanked. Is it possible or am I misunderstanding something in this scenario?



 


Posted by will on :
 
Thanks cabbage, I find your post reassuring. I was out of TSBB, and back in Friday. I am counting on TSBB to be my 10 bagger, (or at least, 5 bagger), if it trades down again I will double my position. I have been playing with real $ since early Feb, however I have been frugal, no stock purchases over $300. My account bounces between $4800 - $5200, I started with $5,000. I diversified too much, owning 26 different stocks. I am looking for, "that trade", that will do it for me. I have had opportunity, but due to lack of experience, skill, and ability, haven't taken full advantage of them, (ONEV, EFLT & others), and left $ on the table. I don't want to come off as being negative. Every cell, save one, in my body is saying "YES" to TBSS, but to really feel confident and comfortable I had to ask.

quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Regulation SHO has put a stop to naked shorting in the US- and the change of transfer agent should help the affimative determination issue. Shorters are not likely to target TSBB anymore- theres no room for it to drop anymore (they already worked it from .05 to .004) and the positive financials will deter shorters as more people buy on the increased valuation.

Good question though will, its important to explore these possibilities



 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Earth email me cabbage22@hotmail.com
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Cabbage you've got mail

go TSBB !!!!!
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
Cabbage you've got mail

go TSBB !!!!!


Wish I got mail! LOL. Hope everyone is having a great weekend. TSBB to the Mooooooooooon!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Fasten Your Seat Belts ... This ride is about to begin !!!!!!
 
Posted by Tgrant on :
 
I hope your right shaka
 
Posted by Dardadog on :
 

2004-05-24 09:15:52


Investment Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Files Third Quarter 10Q Which Shows Large Increases for Company


***

> ORLANDO, Fla., May 24, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- James V. Sadrianna, the Chief Financial Officer of TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (OTCBB:TSBB), reported to management that the Company's 10Q was filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on Friday, May 21, 2004. The 10Q showed a 511% increase in total assets over the same quarter in 2003 and a 705% increase compared to the Company's year-end of June 30, 2003. James V. Sadrianna stated, "This quarter fulfilled our earlier expectations of increased asset and shareholder value. There is a net increase in stockholders equity of $1,557,309 after adjustments for the recent change to 1940 Investment Act status. Total assets of $1,921,476 were reported for March 31, 2004 versus $314,441 for the same period in 2003 and $238,758 for the Company's year-end of June 30, 2003. The Company reported net income for the first quarter of 2004 of $418,727 versus net income of $4,477 for the same period in 2003. Shareholder's Equity increased from ($76,902) in March of 2003 to $1,303,160 for the same period in 2004. Shareholders can look forward to continued profitable operations as the Company continues to execute its business plan as a Business Development Company." James J. Jenkins, CEO stated, "I'm very pleased by the Company's third quarter results. This is great news. Of equal importance, our fourth quarter-projected results appear favorable. With the addition of Cummings Financial Services, Inc. to our portfolio, we expect the Company's shareholder value to increase substantially. The management has worked very hard to bring the Company to its present state. We have a dedicated group of professionals and we are proud of our accomplishments." About TS&B Holdings Inc. TS&B Holdings Inc., is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries. Safe Harbor The statements made in this release constitute "forward-looking" statements, usually containing the words "believe," "estimate," "project," "expect," or similar expressions. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, changing economic conditions, interest rates trends, continued acceptance of the Company's products in the marketplace, competitive factors and other risks detailed in the Company's periodic report Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this release. CONTACT: Honeycutt Capital Group, LLC. (918) 392-0336 Honeycuttcapital@hotmail.com

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!


DaDog
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Great PR- still wish it hit streamer though.

Earth email sent
 


Posted by Malloy on :
 
Very good news....this one is more than ready to go...

Going in for more at that price.

Good luck all.
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Here we goooo

watch for .006 breakout- trend reversal
 


Posted by fastrunner on :
 
It's still going.
 
Posted by Malloy on :
 
Here comes the real test...if it break resistance at .006, it will get lots of attention.

Malloy
 


Posted by will on :
 
YEAH !!!

will
Member posted May 19, 2004 12:26
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
We need to trade over .006, and break that .0059 resistance.
 


Posted by Malloy on :
 
We broke resistance...next level is .007
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
Wow! over 13mil shares traded in less than an hour. I'd say this puppy is going to rock. TSSB to the mooooon!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Wow! over 13mil shares traded in less than an hour. I'd say this puppy is going to rock. TSSB to the mooooon!



Correction, over 15 mil and rising. It's a breakout!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Solid DD goes a long way! Congrats to early entries!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Where is the next resistance? Any L2 ?
 
Posted by Malloy on :
 
Plat, the way you think "Future so bright...."

LOve it!

:-)


quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Wow! over 13mil shares traded in less than an hour. I'd say this puppy is going to rock. TSSB to the mooooon!


[This message has been edited by Malloy (edited May 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by Malloy on :
 
Next level 2 resistance is .008...than not much till .009

We have a runner here.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Thanks, Malloy. I think it might sustain this run!
quote:
Originally posted by Malloy:
Next level 2 resistance is .008...than not much till .009

We have a runner here.



 


Posted by Malloy on :
 
REsistance at .008 is futile.

Going to next level.
 


Posted by WWJD-thru-me on :
 
I bought more at .0079. Happy to see this finally going. It is one of the few I didn't panic sell and actually bought more of. GLTA I am hoping for mopre than .02 on this. -Debi
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
Will -

Bet your glad you got back in Friday.

Earth -

Are you loving this or what!

The TRAIN has left the station. Choo Choo!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by will on :
 
Estatic! Thanks to all of you and especially cabbage!

quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Will -

Bet your glad you got back in Friday.

Earth -

Are you loving this or what!

The TRAIN has left the station. Choo Choo!



 


Posted by mamboking on :
 
WOW!!!!
Higher volume than QBID
 
Posted by Malloy on :
 
Q what?

:-)

quote:
Originally posted by mamboking:
WOW!!!!
Higher volume than QBID


 


Posted by Malloy on :
 
Think about it, if you had the chance to buy a subpenny that makes profit and takes very close attention to shareholder (the German Stock Exchange incident, per example), wouldn't you jump on it?

Resistance at .009 is futile.
 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
Wow .009!!! Thanks again, Earth Shaker!
 
Posted by Malloy on :
 
More MM lining up every time we break a resistance point.

Next big one is at .01

This is where we see how strong this one is.
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
one word....... WOW !!!
 
Posted by jonv on :
 
I would also like to play the bounce. Any thoughts on how low it will dip before afternoon bounce?
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
What Did I Say !!!! Fasten those Seatbelts !!!! IT WAS A GUT FEELING about Today.

Earth_MAN
 


Posted by Malloy on :
 
Speculation.

Reading at last 3 months chart, here's the possible scenario

if we break .01, going for .014, then, if we break it, going for .02, then, if we break it, going for .028, then, .048.

Year's high is .10
 


Posted by FurrySound on :
 
I guess I fastened too tight and broke scottrade... they are offline :P

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by mainstay on :
 
nice!
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
.01 coming in hot
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
who needs QBID. TSBB just made me over 2 thousand dollars this morning already !!!1


WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
What Did I Say !!!! Fasten those Seatbelts !!!! IT WAS A GUT FEELING about Today.

Earth_MAN


Fixing to break a .01!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Keep this one guys!!!! were gonna see .02 in the next couple days
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
other boards are estimating this ONE to reach .10 !!!!!! maybe not all in one day BUT WOW ... Train has definately left the station. WOO WOO !!!!!
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
other boards are estimating this ONE to reach .10 !!!!!! maybe not all in one day BUT WOW ... Train has definately left the station. WOO WOO !!!!!

.10 is what I have my sell order in at. I might just raise it!


------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman

[This message has been edited by platapuss (edited May 24, 2004).]
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
ALMOST HALF the OS traded today.
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Raise it Plat!!! Hell, I'm gonna buy more
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Platman remember when you said this train went in reverse. NOT TODAY MAN !!!!

WOO WOO
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Can you imagine how quick this will reach .10 if they were to come out with some more good news. Look at IBZT. Didn't it go from like .002 to .08 in a week on speculation that the VKB was fixing to ship. Well there is no speculation here... it's all facts!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
LETS ROCK !!!!
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Damn guys, Order in for 100,000 more shares
 
Posted by YunGFree on :
 
0 for 2 trying to break .01....lets hope the third time's a charm
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
There will be lots of selling. People taking profits. But not to worry because this will continue to move north. I think it will close above .01 today!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by bauer on :
 
I'm gonna get back in.
 
Posted by YunGFree on :
 
Im with ya plat...close above .01
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Amen Brother.


.01 it is !!!
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
QBIS my other STOCK is not trading today. EXTREMELY LOW VOLUME for QBID standards. But who cares right now. GO GO TSBB !!!!
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
THIS ONE could keep going UP this week. The news JUST OUT is AWSOME. Wow Imagine a PENNY STOCK that actually increases its NET WORTH.
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Investment Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Files Third Quarter 10Q Which Shows Large Increases for Company
Monday May 24, 9:15 am ET


ORLANDO, Fla., May 24, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- James V. Sadrianna, the Chief Financial Officer of TS&B Holdings, Inc. (``Company'' or ``TS&B'') (OTC BB:TSBB.OB - News), reported to management that the Company's 10Q was filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on Friday, May 21, 2004. The 10Q showed a 511% increase in total assets over the same quarter in 2003 and a 705% increase compared to the Company's year-end of June 30, 2003. James V. Sadrianna stated, ``This quarter fulfilled our earlier expectations of increased asset and shareholder value. There is a net increase in stockholders equity of $1,557,309 after adjustments for the recent change to 1940 Investment Act status. Total assets of $1,921,476 were reported for March 31, 2004 versus $314,441 for the same period in 2003 and $238,758 for the Company's year-end of June 30, 2003. The Company reported net income for the first quarter of 2004 of $418,727 versus net income of $4,477 for the same period in 2003. Shareholder's Equity increased from ($76,902) in March of 2003 to $1,303,160 for the same period in 2004. Shareholders can look forward to continued profitable operations as the Company continues to execute its business plan as a Business Development Company.''
ADVERTISEMENT


James J. Jenkins, CEO stated, ``I'm very pleased by the Company's third quarter results. This is great news. Of equal importance, our fourth quarter-projected results appear favorable. With the addition of Cummings Financial Services, Inc. to our portfolio, we expect the Company's shareholder value to increase substantially. The management has worked very hard to bring the Company to its present state. We have a dedicated group of professionals and we are proud of our accomplishments.''

About TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings Inc., is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries.

Safe Harbor

The statements made in this release constitute ``forward-looking'' statements, usually containing the words ``believe,'' ``estimate,'' ``project,'' ``expect,'' or similar expressions. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, changing economic conditions, interest rates trends, continued acceptance of the Company's products in the marketplace, competitive factors and other risks detailed in the Company's periodic report Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this release.

Contact:
Honeycutt Capital Group, LLC.
(918) 392-0336
Honeycuttcapital@hotmail.com


 


Posted by will on :
 
Hasn't traded in awhile? Why?
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
``I'm very pleased by the Company's third quarter results. This is great news. Of equal importance, our fourth quarter-projected results appear favorable. With the addition of Cummings Financial Services, Inc. to our portfolio, we expect the Company's shareholder value to increase substantially. The management has worked very hard to bring the Company to its present state. We have a dedicated group of professionals and we are proud of our accomplishments.''

What more can be said. This week is going to be very exciting!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Hasn't traded in awhile? Why?

THE MM's are worn out...thay are taking a break! LOL.

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
With 250,000,000 OutStanding Shares and 90,000,000 Traded today. Maybe this one is slowing down but just for today. Tomorrow there will be more action on this one. WE WILL SEE.

GOOD PROFIT TODAY. Dont be too greedy.
 


Posted by having fun on :
 
s everyone playing this one or are are you holding? What are you holding too? Just interested, I haven't decided how long I will hold. It is great newsthat is out! GREAT POTENTIAL!!!
 
Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
NITE just pulled us back into the .008's

http://www.tradersnation.com/quote.shtml


That stupid JEFF is trying to pull us into the 7's
 


Posted by UserName on :
 
i knew i should have sold at 9
 
Posted by will on :
 
I sold half my position at a double. Trying to buy them back at .0075. Holding freebies.

quote:
Originally posted by GREGDOGG:
NITE just pulled us back into the .008's

http://www.tradersnation.com/quote.shtml


That stupid JEFF is trying to pull us into the 7's



 


Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
They'll probably fill all the .008's and maybe some .007's and close at .008

There's only one guy selling at .008

6 selling at .009
 


Posted by will on :
 
I doubt we will see .0075 again, but I'll try. I might revaluate my re-entry in the morning, but if we take off over .01 that will be moot.

quote:
Originally posted by GREGDOGG:
They'll probably fill all the .008's and maybe some .007's and close at .008

There's only one guy selling at .008

6 selling at .009



 


Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
I hope this one goes above $0.01 tomorrow...cuz my a** got in late. Go TSBB..at least above $0.012.

 
Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
The guy at .008's gone,

Back up to 7 guys at .009
 


Posted by will on :
 
Bull:
Keep cheerleading, I have another one running, CDVJ .005 up .002, been waiting forever for that one.

quote:
Originally posted by CuriousBull:
I hope this one goes above $0.01 tomorrow...cuz my a** got in late. Go TSBB..at least above $0.012.


 


Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Good afternoon Will, how's it goin' ?

8 guys at .009 now
 


Posted by will on :
 
Great Dogg, how are you? Thanks for encouraging me to stay in this one. Cabbage and you convinved me to get back in it Friday. Thanks again.
quote:
Originally posted by GREGDOGG:
Good afternoon Will, how's it goin' ?

8 guys at .009 now



 


Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Everything's Green today..... Yahoooooooo

That CDVJ's movin' nicely.... I don't own any but always see guys complaining about it.

When I get discouraged on this TSBB I just look at the 1 year chart. Then I stop worrying.
 


Posted by will on :
 
I just want to break even on CDVJ, my average is .0063, already sold half my position for a 50% profit, and got free shares of CSJJ. It goes to .0063, and I'll make out goooood.
quote:
Originally posted by GREGDOGG:
Everything's Green today..... Yahoooooooo

That CDVJ's movin' nicely.... I don't own any but always see guys complaining about it.

When I get discouraged on this TSBB I just look at the 1 year chart. Then I stop worrying.



 


Posted by will on :
 
GreggDogg:
I have ADVC too at .0013 trying to run, hit .002 but I couldn't get filled.
 
Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Ya, I saw Keith talking about it, I don't own any of that either.

Everbody's putting out their 3rd quarter 10Q's, watch em fly...
 


Posted by UserName on :
 
sweet close
 
Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
TSBB News Breakdown.

511% increase in assets over same quarter in 2003

705% total increase since 2003 year end

Stockholders equity net increase of $1,557,309
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
There will be lots of selling. People taking profits. But not to worry because this will continue to move north. I think it will close above .01 today!



Awesome...closed at HOD! Tomorrow will probably open huge and never look back. If your not in now, better do so quick because .05 is just around the corner. Wooohooooooooooooo!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Malloy on :
 
I just love those last minute run...usually very good for the next day...or two.

Malloy
 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Are we as shareholders gonna see a slice of this equity? Not sure how that works....Show me Da Money. Keep your shares boys and girls. Don't regret a big sell off. Good luck tomorrow. Peace out
 
Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Closed at .0099

See ya'll tomorrow.
 


Posted by mamboking on :
 
Nice run.
What do you think tomorrow is going to do?

I would love to see it down to the .007s so I can get back in. I sold 1/2 of my shares @.009 for a good 100% profit.
 


Posted by will on :
 
I was right there with ya mambo man. Sold 1/2 for 100%, and had a buy back in at .0075, never filled, but I'm still happy!

quote:
Originally posted by mamboking:
Nice run.
What do you think tomorrow is going to do?

I would love to see it down to the .007s so I can get back in. I sold 1/2 of my shares @.009 for a good 100% profit.



 


Posted by joeyisthebest on :
 
I am in 18500 at .008 and 2000 at .0069
 
Posted by Tgrant on :
 
today was awesome, I worked al day and got only to see I made some good money,I have 100500 shares at an average of .005 i hope tomorow does as good as today did
 
Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:

Awesome...closed at HOD! Tomorrow will probably open huge and never look back. If your not in now, better do so quick because .05 is just around the corner. Wooohooooooooooooo!

Hey Plat - I am in this for long term. I am not really a day trader. Do you really think this is going up - or is it a one day wonder?



 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
I'm with you Breez!! Long term
 
Posted by mamboking on :
 
This is ************* recomemdation.
Good Luck All Today.
==========
Mambo.
^^^^^^^^^^^


Daily Commentary
BUY
=================

Our system recommends BUY as of today. Previous SELL recommendation was made on 5/19/2004 (5) days ago, when the stock price was 0.005. Since then the stock gained 90.38% .

Today the stock closed higher, close to its high (sign of strength) with a higher high and a higher low. The volume is extremely high. The security price is trending sideways.

There is a strong upward move that turned up all the moving averages. This may be a sign of a new uptrend. It is still not too late to buy this stock.

Today’s Candlestick Patterns:
Long White Candlestick

Today a Long White Candlestick formed. Buyers were aggressive and the buying pressure was strong. Be careful, this may be a potential turning point!




 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:
Hey Plat - I am in this for long term. I am not really a day trader. Do you really think this is going up - or is it a one day wonder?


If you do your DD you will see that this company has great potential and is a sure winner. In my opinion this going to move upwards fast! There will be some pullback, because people will take profits. I think it will trade within the .05 - .10 range here soon. <IMHO>

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Stock_student on :
 
Hi guys need advice.. i already own tsbb at 0055 but i have abt 1000 dollars left in account should I buy it again around 1 cents do you guys think its worth it or should I go for qbid or some other stock...any help would be very much appreciated..
thanks again GOOOOOOOOOOO TSBBBBBBBBBB

[/B][/QUOTE]


 


Posted by will on :
 
Gonna open over a penny.
 
Posted by beginner on :
 
IT's Falling! Anyone have L2, I wanna get in on this dip.
thanks...
 
Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Gonna open over a penny.

Anybody reply!

Why is it now tanking???? Just profit taking or bad news???

I am holding strong!!!!!!!!!!
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
The 15 min shakeout is almost over....I hope!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Gonna open over a penny.

Why do you think it's going down???
 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
The 15 min shakeout is almost over....I hope!


PLAT -
do you think it's a good time to buy more??
 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
If you do your DD you will see that this company has great potential and is a sure winner. In my opinion this going to move upwards fast! There will be some pullback, because people will take profits. I think it will trade within the .05 - .10 range here soon. <IMHO>

Hey Plat - sorry I didn't see your previous reply.

I will hang tuff on this one.

Might buy more.



 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
The 15 min shakeout is almost over....I hope!


It's over, now let it rise!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by ludinlo on :
 
So what do you think, .015 today? Don't know if I should hold or sell?
 
Posted by keithsan on :
 
tried getting in on ask at .0084,0085, 0086 0087 and finally quit.

figured even if it didn't run, I could play the gap, didn't happen.

Oh well,


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Rule of thumb:

The first 15 min after the market opens is the most volatile. If there is a major runnup the day before, there will be a shakeout the next morining so the MM's can add to their supply. If it continues to drop after 15 min, then it will probably be a down day. If it starts to rise again after 15 min for the next 15 min then it will be an up day. Vica-versa.

This is not always true, but watch long enough and you will see that it happens more than not. Happy Trading!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by ludinlo on :
 
So do you think this is a long hold stock. I have currently Qbid, CMKX, TSBB and UVCL.

Qbid, no brainer cause she is going to go, CMKX is a gamble and TSBB was a surprise. Nothing good to say on UVCL other than lost money there.

But If I can hold TSBB and hope see not drop below .0075 then I good to hold.

Any advise from the pro's cause I'm new to this
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
46 mil traded in 30 min. WOW!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Quality Joe on :
 
does anyone think this will trade by the 10th of a cent once it is clear over a penny?
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
46 mil traded in 30 min. WOW!


What's goping on? Just a sec ago it said 50mil, now it says 43 mil. Am I seeing things?

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by keithsan:
tried getting in on ask at .0084,0085, 0086 0087 and finally quit.

figured even if it didn't run, I could play the gap, didn't happen.

Oh well,


Try raising your bid. I put mine in for 0090 and it executed at 0084 immediately.


 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Booty Quest:
Try raising your bid. I put mine in for 0090 and it executed at 0084 immediately.



that was a great price, I figured .008+ through .009+ would've been a nice morning play and anything over a penny would have been great.

out for now.

 


Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
1 MM left at .009

7 at .010 , NITE's one of em'
 


Posted by will on :
 
Good morning Dogg, good to see you here.

quote:
Originally posted by GREGDOGG:
1 MM left at .009

7 at .010 , NITE's one of em'



 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GREGDOGG:
1 MM left at .009

7 at .010 , NITE's one of em'


Gregdogg -

What Level II software are you using? Unfortunately I don't think Ameritrade shows Level II quotes for penny stocks. If they do I will re-activate my subscription. I cancelled it since I don't mess with the Big stocks anymore. Thanks.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Still holding for upcoming news, too much on the horizon to leave now
 
Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Good Morning Plat, Will, and Cabbage...

Plat, I use http://www.tradersnation.com/quote.shtml

It's delayed 15 min, which SUCKS BIGTIME but it's better than nothing, I can atleast see who's where and which way their going.

I plan on getting realtime in a few months.

15 min delay seems like forever when your trying to make a quick decision.

NITE's back at .009


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
If anyone is interested, this is a very useful tool that I use. You can also configure it to work with brokerage account.
http://www.medved.net/quotetracker/

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by will on :
 
This going to trade at .0075, so I can double my psition again?
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
To be honest with you I think this stock stinks and is going down bigtime! Just Kidding! I do think however that there is alot of accumulating going on before the next leg up. <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
I use Streamer by Ameritrade for my Freetrade account. You really cant go wrong. Free trades - it deducts 14.99 from my account each month. (Level II, Charts, INET Viewer and all that) if you just want real time its 9.99
 
Posted by mamboking on :
 
Platapuss I use this tool, but I'm having problems with it this morning.
Are you having problems 2 or it's just me?
Tx.
Mambo.
^^^^^
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
If anyone is interested, this is a very useful tool that I use. You can also configure it to work with brokerage account.
http://www.medved.net/quotetracker/



 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
I was earlier. It was jumping all over the place as far as volume goes...but I'm not sure if that was a problem with the software or if was the MM's trying to sort it out.

I do have it configured to work with my Ameritrade brokerage account and it works great!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
It say's "free" , but what does it actually cost per month ???
 
Posted by bauer on :
 
time to average down
 
Posted by mamboking on :
 
No, that's not what is happening to me. It froze at 10:06:30 I should I call them, but I was waitting to see what happend.


quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
I was earlier. It was jumping all over the place as far as volume goes...but I'm not sure if that was a problem with the software or if was the MM's trying to sort it out.

I do have it configured to work with my Ameritrade brokerage account and it works great!



 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GREGDOGG:
It say's "free" , but what does it actually cost per month ???


It is free! You just have to have a brokerage account to be able to get the feed for quotes. You can pay a subscription fee to have the banner ad removed and to have some additional features.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by bauer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
If anyone is interested, this is a very useful tool that I use. You can also configure it to work with brokerage account.
http://www.medved.net/quotetracker/



THANK YOU!
I hooked it up to my scottrade account.
Is there any service that will give me at least bid/ask for pink sheets that I can hook up to this?
 


Posted by Jerry Medved on :
 
mamboking - there are no known issues with Ameritrade today. If QT is not working, check that your firewall is not blocking access. If still a problem, email QuoteTracker support. you should get a reply very quickly.

GREGDOGG - QuoteTracker is available for free as well as paid registered version. The difference between free and registered one is that free one has ads and the intraday charts are max 2 days. Registered one has no ads and the charts can be max 10 days. Regardless of registration, you would have to have a datafeed. QT can connect to your broker's datafeed, in which case you would not have to pay anything for it. Or you can use a subscription datafeed such as IQFeed, Money.net, StockWatch, MarketFeed, eSignal, etc. in which case you would pay the datafeed vendor for the service.

Jerry Medved http://www.quotetracker.com

 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
Gregg, if your buying and selling alot, you really need it if your using delayed by the time you see it turn its already turned.

---doesn't always work though tsbb tried in at .0084 right at the turn nailed it on the ask, my order wasn't picked and it drove back up to .0095

quote:
Originally posted by GREGDOGG:
Good Morning Plat, Will, and Cabbage...

Plat, I use http://www.tradersnation.com/quote.shtml

It's delayed 15 min, which SUCKS BIGTIME but it's better than nothing, I can atleast see who's where and which way their going.

I plan on getting realtime in a few months.

15 min delay seems like forever when your trying to make a quick decision.

NITE's back at .009



 


Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Thanks Jerry, I remeber now why I erased it, I was concerned about you guys having access to my brokerage account and didn't want to turn off my firewall.

I use TD Canada, does it work with them ?


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
This going to trade at .0075, so I can double my psition again?

Looks like it never made it to .0075 and I hope it never does. Not trying to be sarcastic, but I want this to fly to the Moon. I don't try and pop in and out of stocks anymore. I just accumulate and then sell when it lands on the moon! Happy Trading.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Hey Keith,

Ya I know, 15 minutes is too long to wait.

I use to play long, then I didn't really need it, I've started swing trading so I'm watching more closely, now I might start daytrading so then I'll REALLY need it...

I need more RAM and MHZ too....
 


Posted by Jerry Medved on :
 
Greg - we do not have your broker login. It is stored locally on your computer and never sent to us. Refer to our Privacy Page and FAQ entry regarding this - we have very clear documentation about that

There is no need to turn off the firewall. Just need to not block QuoteTracker so it can access the net.

As for TD Waterhouse Canada, QT can get quotes from there, but for integrated trading we require the broker's cooperation, which we do not have from WH Canada.

We did just add support for TradeFreedom which is a direct access broker for US and Canadian securities and already have support for Interactive Brokers and Ameritrade Canada, both of which except Canadian clients.

By the way, for TradeFreedom, MB Trading, optionsXpress and CyberTrader clients, QuoteTracker is free fully registered.

[This message has been edited by Jerry Medved (edited May 25, 2004).]
 


Posted by will on :
 
It traded a couple times at .0075, but I didn't get filled.
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Looks like it never made it to .0075 and I hope it never does. Not trying to be sarcastic, but I want this to fly to the Moon. I don't try and pop in and out of stocks anymore. I just accumulate and then sell when it lands on the moon! Happy Trading.



 


Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Thanks again Jerry,

I might sign up with Ameritrade Canada and/or Etrade Canada so I can start using all this stuff...

Thanks Guy's

 


Posted by Jerry Medved on :
 
E*Trade canada is not supported, though at least right now clients can select E*trade US to get US streaming quotes.
 
Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Man, us Canadians sure get the short end of the stick...LOL

Not only do we have to pay $30 US per trade but we have to wake up at 6:30 in the morning....LOL

JJJJEEEEEEEESSSSSHHHHHH !!!!

Thanks again Jerry, GREAT PRODUCT !!!!

I just heard something about QuoteTracker on CNBC PowerLunch, is that you ???


 


Posted by tahoe on :
 
us on the west coast of US have to wake up early too, but come 2pm, the day is over
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Shouldnt go much lower then this. HERE i found something interesting from another BOARD !

*******TSBB DD*********

-IMO .0083 is an attractive price.

-The float is somewhere in between 100-120 Million and that would mean a market cap of somewhere between 1 million and 1.2 million.

-Because they just released that they made 1.5 million that means that 1.5 million is added to the market cap of this stock. By adding that 1.5 million to the existing market cap of 1 million, that would put the price anywhere between .02-.025. If my math is wrong tell me.

-TSBB reached it's 52 week low some time ago and it's near it's 52 week low still, as far as technicals go, it's still very cheap.

-TSBB ran from 1 cent to 5 cents in less than a month back in January, and it CAN DO IT AGAIN!

-It's number of shares OS is at 250 some million and the float is somewhere between 95 million to 120 million, but I don't know the exact figure. As most penny stocks are concerned they are hard to run because of the excessive float, but unlike so many other stocks, TSBB runs quickly because of the low float! This makes it more attractive to traders and investors alike. A target over 1, 2, or even 3 cents is possible if people stick with this stock.

-The CEO gave a solid PR adressing naked shorting on the Berlin Exchange, he is overly concern over the stock being manipulated and the price being so low, and obviously wants it to go up.

-So he has removed TSBB from the Berlin Stock Exchange, changed transfer agents, etc, trying to make this company more solid.

-2 weeks ago the company said this: "The Company believes the per-share price should be in the $.03 to $.05 range, the share price was recently at $.05. The Company knows the only way to rid TSBB of the `SHORTERS' is to acquire assets, revenue and show earnings."

-The price range of .03-.05, was reached just recently back in January, and I really hope they are right!

-Admitted to dilution, only so far as to say however that this was done to pay Glenn Cummings and various other ventures. GFYF and GWDL insiders do not admit to dilution and yet they do it. Although the company is subpenny like so many scam companies, at least TSBB can be more trustworthy.

-So far, as a swing trade is concern, it looks solid, but perhaps it's an investment for the long run awell.

 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Just doubled my position- looks to be reversing at these support levels.

The entire OS has been turned over the past two days, ready to move up again.

Expect news this week
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Looks like trading has virtually stopped. No one selling and no one buying. Hmmmmm, I guess we will be in a stand by mode til some more good news comes our way. I had figured however that we would close today above the .01 mark, but I guess not. Oh well.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Plat, the entire OS has been churned, so this is to be expected. The PPS shouldnt drop much from here because most everyone has bought in or around this range, everyone is waiting for the next move up.

I've been doing some more fundamental research, looks like DRDF is undervalued, may have a price correction similar to tsbb in the coming days and weeks.
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
So....any opinions as to what to expect today????


 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
And....to get our board back on top the list....more exposure
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Nice gap up by NITE this morning- I think the MM's will start covering their short positions soon
 
Posted by will on :
 
Might be a good day to buy more!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Is it going to catch support at .007 ?
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
Well not such a goodmorning for TSBB. I can't believe all the selling. They will surely be sorry here soon.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
NITE's down to .006

Quite a few guys coming in at .005
 


Posted by Tgrant on :
 
Ya, I knew I should have swung this on monday but soon enough it wont matta
 
Posted by nutrader on :
 
Following news out the 24th. Cant; see why this stock is falling.
This news can be seen on Yahoo financial. Can't understand why this co is doing so bad. One bulletin board put out the news Monday that there would be a big sell off on Tuesday. And you see it dropped. Panic I guess. Seems someone is trying to do this co in by putting out bad news. It seems to be a very good investment.

Investment Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Files Third Quarter 10Q Which Shows Large Increases for Company


ORLANDO, Fla., May 24, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- James V. Sadrianna, the
Chief Financial Officer of TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B")
(OTCBB: TSBB), reported to management that the Company's 10Q was filed with the
Securities & Exchange Commission on Friday, May 21, 2004. The 10Q showed a 511%
increase in total assets over the same quarter in 2003 and a 705% increase
compared to the Company's year-end of June 30, 2003. James V. Sadrianna stated,
"This quarter fulfilled our earlier expectations of increased asset and
shareholder value. There is a net increase in stockholders equity of $1,557,309
after adjustments for the recent change to 1940 Investment Act status. Total
assets of $1,921,476 were reported for March 31, 2004 versus $314,441 for the
same period in 2003 and $238,758 for the Company's year-end of June 30, 2003.
The Company reported net income for the first quarter of 2004 of $418,727 versus
net income of $4,477 for the same period in 2003. Shareholder's Equity increased
from ($76,902) in March of 2003 to $1,303,160 for the same period in 2004.
Shareholders can look forward to continued profitable operations as the Company
continues to execute its business plan as a Business Development Company."


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Well I am receiving Level II quotes again from Moneynet and it feels good to be able to see what is going on with the MM's real time.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Well I am receiving Level II quotes again from Moneynet and it feels good to be able to see what is going on with the MM's real time.



So on that note, there are 4 mm's sitting on the ask right now @ .0079, 3 @ .0080

[This message has been edited by platapuss (edited May 26, 2004).]
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Hey Platapuss.....can you copy and paste the lineup of the MM's from your L2's....much appreciated

 
Posted by mainstay on :
 
Volume has completely vanished this afternoon.
 
Posted by kbpkt on :
 
If one of you guys wants to create volume, i have a buy in for 300,000 at .007, you can sell to me if you want.
 
Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Well I am receiving Level II quotes again from Moneynet and it feels good to be able to see what is going on with the MM's real time.


1. Plat - how do i get access to Level 2
2. What do you presently think about TSBB - I got in at .009 on Monday. I thought things were looking like it was heading to the .03-.05 range like the Ceo said it's worth. What's your take?
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:
1. Plat - how do i get access to Level 2
2. What do you presently think about TSBB - I got in at .009 on Monday. I thought things were looking like it was heading to the .03-.05 range like the Ceo said it's worth. What's your take?

I just signed up with money.net. It's web based so there is no software to install and plus you get a 14day free trial but you do have to pay the xchange fee which is $10.

Getting in @ .009 seems kinda of rough right now, but you will be happy that you did when you are able to sell it @ .05 or better which will be soon. Another words just hang tight! I did know that there would be a pullback, but I did not think it would be this much. But once again, doing DD on this company and I feel safe to say that it is way undervalued and it's just a matter of time before it trades much higher. Hope this helps. <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
Ok, who just teased me? Went down to .0071, then an arder for .0079 filled, but only 5,000 shares. Hmmm?
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Any thoughts for Thursday Gang. I am in this one deep with half a million shares. Thats how sure I am about the TRUE VALUE of this company.
 
Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
I still love this company! When it starts its next run , it'll be wild. I think they're loading up. I'm long and strong.
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Anyone got L2's this morning......very much appreciated.....
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slowgothemo73:
Anyone got L2's this morning......very much appreciated.....

3 mm's @ .007 & 3 @ .0076

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
We have a BASHER on the RB board. He is trying to knock TSBB DOWN so that he can BUY them CHEAP. I am doing what I can to respond to his POSTS on RB.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
We have a BASHER on the RB board. He is trying to knock TSBB DOWN so that he can BUY them CHEAP. I am doing what I can to respond to his POSTS on RB.

Is that Raging Bull? Because if it is, I am not showing any messages for TSBB.

 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
RAGING BULL. Just input TSBB on the SEARCH bar. You will se my NAME. Do me a FAVOR. Register and help me post there. the PPS is falling cuz of the FOOL.
 
Posted by Tgrant on :
 
is anybody else having trouble selling this stock? I have tried twice and it wont go through
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Just bought 100,000 shares at .006 Good buy!!!!
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
I've been in TSBB big since .0052, probably shoulda sold for the 98% profit, but I'm sure most of us here never thought it would come down this low again. No matter though, first PR we'll shoot right back up there. Only wish I had more money to pick up some more right now.
As for basher on the RB board, you really think the work of one person is enough to cause this downward movement? Why would people listen to a basher on a company like this with such potential and a great third quarter 10Q? I was expecting the selloff at .01, but nothing like what we've had in the past couple days.
 
Posted by Tgrant on :
 
well said nashdaq, but for the past couple days I have tried to get out and take some profit then get back in at these levels and not one sell has gone through
 
Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
One basher can do alot of damage, go get em' guys.....


 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
It's gonna bounce back fellas!! Keep those shares.. Don't panic
 
Posted by UserName on :
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Just bought 100,000 shares at .006 Good buy!!!!

ive had an order at .006 all day and it never went through, finally i upped it to .0063 and it went through immediately.
 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
What is the RB board you guys keep refering to?
 
Posted by Zeker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Az...Cats:
What is the RB board you guys keep refering to?

http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=TSBB&startfrom=4767
 
Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
I'm not sure if they'll let me post a link but I'll try,

http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/cgi-bin/static.cgi/a=index.txt&d=mainpages


Whatever you do, don't tell them about this board, the less that know the better.
 


Posted by Zeker on :
 
the last thing that we need here, is a bunch of paid bashers running amuck. Not that we couldn't handle them, but who needs their irrational negativity?
 
Posted by UserName on :
 
Earth shaker posted on RB that he just sold 300,000 @ .0064, if hes selling after all the hype hes given then im out too. glta
 
Posted by Zeker on :
 
shaker was probably just pointing out that sales were going through in a manner that the basher couldn't deny, b/c the basher was tying to claim that private entities weren't getting into/ couldn't get out of this one, which is simply not the case. Bashers like to make private investors feel isolated and outnumbered in a bid to shake them into selling off.

[This message has been edited by Zeker (edited May 27, 2004).]
 


Posted by Teufelmann on :
 
What the &^%#$@!!! is going on!!! this stock is tanking bad today!!! it going back to 0.004..............CRAP! (
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
I can't see us heading back to .004, then again I didn't see us heading back to .0065. Either way, we'll be back up to .01 soon IMO. Just an opportunity for more to jump on the bandwagon I guess, thought we were doing just fine without them but apparently MMs didn't think so.

I'm holding through this whole thing, could still sell for small profit but as soon as I sell it'll catch a run and I'll be left behind
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
There is definitely alot of activity on RB. Some real bashing going on. That means one thing guys, this stock is setting the stage for the next runnup. Although I wished it was not back down to these levels. Definitely frustrating. If I would have known that it was going to retrace this far I would have sold @ .01 and then bought back to double my position. But oh well. If I would have sold then we would be sitting @ .02 right now and I'd be beating myself up for selling.

Hang tight people, it will be worth it.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
Yep, I'm in the exact same boat platapuss, I actually sold 50,000 at .0088 but bought back at .008 thinking it'd be my last shot to get in lower...it'll be worth it once we get some PR.
 
Posted by kbpkt on :
 
Stop worrying! Most of you are still up. I bought in this morning for .007, much higher than all of you. I even sold some QBID to buy TSBB. Look at it this way, I made good money daytrading QBID, now that volume is picking up here on TSBB, I plan on doing the same. Obviously I need it to go back up, which it will. Just exercise some patience. Look at QBID a couple Tuesdays ago, it went from .0125 down to .005, then back up to close around .012. That was an amazing daytrading opportunity.
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
I read through the latest discussions on the RB board, seems like more and more people are realizing this is a great opportunity to get in. The basher's gone and if we're lucky we might see an afternoon run here, if we can close above .007 I think we'll see a nice rise tomorrow with people realizing we're set to pop again.
 
Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
We need more news.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GREGDOGG:
We need more news.

NEWS is on it's way! I smell it in the air just like I smell rain in the air when it's on its way!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Earth - Why did you sell? Don't tell me they shook you out. You have done the DD, you know the potential, then why bail? Well I'm not bailing, I'm hanging in there all the way to .10. I might not post anymore til it reaches it, then I will reply to this post and say, "I told you so"!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Plat, I smell news too.... LOL

Earth was just testing the basher on RB, I'm sure he sold but probably at .01

He could have a few million shares so 300 000 is no big deal, just a guess

[This message has been edited by GREGDOGG (edited May 27, 2004).]
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
I think next week will be the release of Glenn Cummings new album. The reason I say that is because it supposed to be released in June and if you look at the website http://glenncummings.net and then under dates you will see they are having a private party on June 5th. What's the party for? I bet it's a party for the new release! This will be huge. <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
haha, well as long as it's not his birthday I think a party must mean good news! No one throws a party unless there's something to celebrate, and I'm pretty sure they're not celebrating because the PPS are dropping! I have a feeling that it's not even going to matter how impressive the news is. Give this thing one more reason to pop and we'll head back to where we were 3 days ago
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Greg GOOD Guess. I Am still well invested in TSBB. I like this company. I am also playing the BOUNCE with some of my shares. Thats ALL. And I wanted to SHUT UP that guy at RB that was BASHING earlier.
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
HANG TIGHT. I Only SOLD a Portion of my SHARES to PLAY the BOUNCE. I am with EVERYONE on this STOCK. SO MUCH is GOING for TSBB. ONLY direction for this Stock is UP UP UP !!!! YEAH BABY YEAH !!!
 
Posted by UserName on :
 
i think we need to relist on berlin exchange, at least it was more active then
 
Posted by tntrader on :
 
More active? Are you crazy?!

The volume was over 50 million today
 


Posted by VIP on :
 
STILL WAITING FOR THAT .03 cents..

GO TSBB..

BUY BUY BUY...

low price now..

 


Posted by Candydish on :
 
I think you are right Earth Shaker, this is one to hold onto. It'll go, and when it does just hang on...
CD
 
Posted by klempar77 on :
 
I am not new to this stock but em new to this board saw some post about RB,folks I am sometimes posting on RB and it's garbage,I mean one big pump and dump nasty web. Don't try to post with bashers,not make any sance one time I saw even bash MSFT!!! imaginate that TSBB who trade this company for some time is decent company,with no luck becose it's trade on OTCBB, if TSBB would be strong enough to trade on NASDAQ,it would be diference story,so far so good make some profit on her lately goot some free shares from last run so I am lowit if enybody don't like it leve them ,some people even if you give them gold they will turned in to dust.


all the best and heapy trading.

ps; got some today PCCL I know from past that it;s scam company diluted big time but the news today was realy good so hope it will least run to .025 or so......out!
 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Are you 7 yrs old Klemper?
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Az...Cats:
Are you 7 yrs old Klemper?

I second that, maybe 8.
 


Posted by klempar77 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Meshoe45:
I second that, maybe 8.


is there any problem???? 7,8,..that is good age,idiot's


 


Posted by klempar77 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Meshoe45:
I second that, maybe 8.

is there any problem?? 7,8.....that is good age idiot's


 


Posted by klempar77 on :
 
is there any problem ? 7,8.....that's good age idiot's

 
Posted by Tgrant on :
 
Yo Kemplar, hooced on foniks werked four me
 
Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Kempler, Thanks for your input. The other guys are just kidding with you. They mean you no harm. Good input though. Makes us feel a little better during these LOW times.

GLTA

Earth_MAN
 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Yah Klempar, We are just teasing you man! Good post. The punkshoeashun needs a bit of work though. Some good points
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Hope this badboy makes a move upward today! I have way to many shares at .009 and 100k at .006. What ever happened to the day when stock value was based upon how the company was doing and there overall earnings and growth. I like this co. mucho and plan to keep my shares for the LT.cGood luck guys and don't panic!! Keepem
 
Posted by tiredofbeingpoor on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tgrant:
Yo Kemplar, hooced on foniks werked four me

Dude!! I know you are kidding but that was FUNNY!
 


Posted by klempar77 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tiredofbeingpoor:
Dude!! I know you are kidding but that was FUNNY!

ok..nice you gotme,hmm good one,heapy trading, guys....or are you guys???...yo these days you don't know,who you talking,
......kidding,just .............out

 


Posted by Zeker on :
 
It's good to still be able to laugh after three days of pain in this one.
 
Posted by klempar77 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zeker:
It's good to still be able to laugh after three days of pain in this one.

level2 look good NITE on bid might see today some buying pressure hope so,and if we go lower well I do have order 500k buy for .0045 it's my dream entry last time I miss that.good luck.......out


 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by klempar77:
level2 look good NITE on bid might see today some buying pressure hope so,and if we go lower well I do have order 500k buy for .0045 it's my dream entry last time I miss that.good luck.......out


Have no more cash available to buy anymore. I hope it does not dip to much. Think were gonna see upward progress today. May dip a bit at the open. Would be a good time to get in after the initial sell off. Happy boy here
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
I think we found our base around .006 - .0065 til some more news comes out. Monday will probably be good day for some news to hit the wire so look for a late day runnup today on the anticipation of this happening. <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
All I have to say is Kudos to those of you who got out at .01 and are now back in playing for free. Only wish I had played it that well. Off to a good start so far this morning, hoping it's the end of our dip, might even see an afternoon run with people getting in before the weekend expecting news monday. The PR is way overdue here. Can't wait for that to come
 
Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
All I have to say is Kudos to those of you who got out at .01 and are now back in playing for free. Only wish I had played it that well. Off to a good start so far this morning, hoping it's the end of our dip, might even see an afternoon run with people getting in before the weekend expecting news monday. The PR is way overdue here. Can't wait for that to come

May I ask what PR you are referring to?

 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
no idea what PR I'm referring to. I just know that looking at the past couple weeks, PRs came out...

05/12/04 - TS&B Holdings Inc. CEO Announces Corporate News Bulletin

05/13/04 - TS&B Holdings, Inc. Shareholder Update on Glenn Cummings of Gulf Coast Records

05/17/04 - Growth Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Engages Shareholder Relations specialist, Honeycutt Capital

05/17/04 - Growth Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Acquisition of Cummings Financial Services, Inc.

05/19/04 - TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces it Will No Longer be Trading on the Berlin Stock Exchange as of Close of Business May 18, 2004

05/24/04 - Investment Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Files Third Quarter 10Q Which Shows Large Increases for Company

They've been good with keeping us investors up to date with what's going on, and since the excellent 10Q we haven't heard anything yet. Something's brewing, the Glenn Cummings record release is expected soon, could be the PR we need. The PR's coming, and with it should be our ride back to .01+



 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
I think we found our base around .006 - .0065 til some more news comes out. Monday will probably be good day for some news to hit the wire so look for a late day runnup today on the anticipation of this happening. <IMHO>


Is the market open on Monday Plat?


 


Posted by tntrader on :
 
The market is not open on Monday.

That is the good thing about working at a brokerage firm, we always get market holidays off!
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
She's a movin!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
She's a movin!


.007 fixing to be taken out!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by UserName on :
 
its good to see a little green every once in awhile
 
Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by UserName:
its good to see a little green every once in awhile

Does everyone think TSBB is finally heading back up to where it belongs? - the .03+ range?
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
Eventually yes. Too much going on for TSBB right now for them not to head back there. Glenn Cummings record release should help quite a bit. Look at a 6 month chart, back in February PPS was up to .05
I say buckle your seatbelts for the next few weeks, IMO.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
Stacking up on the BID. I think the stage is being set for that EOD run.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Tgrant on :
 
yes, I beleive we are headed that way, not over night but we will get there, and kamplar I was just kiding with you man, no hard feelings, and you had some valid points, and yes this is very much a guy
 
Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
Eventually yes. Too much going on for TSBB right now for them not to head back there. Glenn Cummings record release should help quite a bit. Look at a 6 month chart, back in February PPS was up to .05
I say buckle your seatbelts for the next few weeks, IMO.

I agree with you. This should be in the 0.02 range within a month. That's why I am currently holding strong and being patient. After all, the biggest fear we all have is the fear of losing the extra dollar.

 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
I should go to lunch more often......26%

I wanna go higher.....i wanna go higher

or is it i wanna get high?....huh

Go QBID!!!!!
 


Posted by klempar77 on :
 
I guess that we might close today even with .01??? level2 look good,and charts just ,buetyyyyy, MACD very bullish.

all the best.......out
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
I wanted to let all the TSBBers know my opinion of the market maker situation.

I've been watching TSBB for quite a while now, and it appears that the MM BRGE is handling the shares that the company issued for acquisition funding. The CEO mentioned in a PR that 50mm shares were issued, and you can see in the filings that paper notifications are issued for these.

On the way down to .004 BRGE was on the ask the whole way down, along with NITE, and was always on the ask preceding significant drops. BRGE left the ask as of yesterday, just before noon, and as you can see there was an immediate pop in price when he came off the ask. He is now nowhere to be seen on L2, and the price is going up.

IMO he has liquidated most of the 50mm, the volume has been too great for it to all be retail buying, and the price would've been much higher had BRGE not been unloading. Im guessing there is still some of the 50mm that will be unloaded later, after the racetrack and online casino are announced when we are at much higher prices.

Again this is just my opinion- I have nothing to back this up by my own observations.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slowgothemo73:
I should go to lunch more often......26%

I wanna go higher.....i wanna go higher

or is it i wanna get high?....huh

Go QBID!!!!!



Been there, done that! Keep your head clear and enjoy life with all the money your going to make from TSBB!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Stacking up on the BID. I think the stage is being set for that EOD run.


.0076 fixing to fall down!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Something is brewing and the MM's know it. Next week will be huge. The train is fixing to leave once again!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
I'm interested to see what will happen in the closing hour here
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
.0076 fixing to fall down!



Guess what people. .0079 is going to go bye, bye here soon.

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by nutrader on :
 
What kind of shades should I buy Plat?
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
steer queer (go qbid!!!)....err....i mean steer clear of the top gun shades.......now those r gay....(go QBID!!!!)
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
knocking the aviators?! lol
 
Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
it's gone. but do you think it might close at .01 today?

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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
what is a EOD run?

------------------
This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
hey platapuss- what is a EOD run?

------------------
This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by tntrader on :
 
End of Day Run (last hour or so before the market closes at 4:00)


 


Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
thanks
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tntrader:
End of Day Run (last hour or so before the market closes at 4:00)


Thanks for answering that for me. I have been gone for the last couple of hours. Hope everyone has a great weekend.

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by mainstay on :
 
NITE is at .0083 on the ask now. Unless my L2's are buggy. They've been buggy all day for me.

[This message has been edited by mainstay (edited May 28, 2004).]
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
The stage has been set now for Tuesday. WE closed @ .008 up 33%. Tuesday I say it will continue on it's upward path on no news, and with news, it goes well above .01. Have a great weekend everyone and see you Tuesday, Lord willin.

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by MOSES2 on :
 
If there was anything wrong with this one, you can bet I would let you know.

[This message has been edited by MOSES2 (edited May 30, 2004).]
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
The stage has been set now for Tuesday. WE closed @ .008 up 33%. Tuesday I say it will continue on it's upward path on no news, and with news, it goes well above .01. Have a great weekend everyone and see you Tuesday, Lord willin.




 


Posted by klempar77 on :
 

It was nice weekend I have lot's fun with kids now back to work. The charts,MACD,and lot's of interest(everday new invest.) would not be suprised for small gup up on opening,but even without the gup,it might rise until lunch to .0110 without any news and than continue for the rest of the day trade in that range around .01.There will be lot's acummulation and sellers profit takers and stuff.And most importante,we NITE to calm down becose his position same time on ask/bid just holding this stock from any rise.I think thst it might be resonable for 3 days now in green to the end of this week rise PPs to .02 than small pullback to .012,that just my opinion,if we gonna see any than the story might be diference,but honstey I don't like PR's becose lot's shorts trade than going on how many times you was witnesing that good PR's come out and PPs whent down 40% ??? many times,it's bather when stock just trade pattern 3-5 days up(oversold-down -overbought) it's easy and more secure. well all just my opinion's folk's you have nice holly. and don't spend too much time on PC give some too your family.........out!!!


[This message has been edited by klempar77 (edited May 31, 2004).]
 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
Everyone Good Luck Tueday morning and the rest of the Week on TSBB. Glenn is Releasing his New CD this month. He is going to be a big STAR in the COuntry Music Industry. Lets hope he gets The Popularity He deserves.

GO TSBB !!!

Earth_MAN
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Mornin all......im liking the way the MACD chart is looking.....headin up!!!!!
 
Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
Looks like we might have a little gap up this morning.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
Good morning everyone. Hope everyone had a great weekend and that everyone appreciated the freedom that we have in this country.

Looks like it's going to open strong this morning. And since everyone likes to mention what NITE is doing, well NITE is sitting on the ask @ .01.

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by klempar77 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Good morning everyone. Hope everyone had a great weekend and that everyone appreciated the freedom that we have in this country.

Looks like it's going to open strong this morning. And since everyone likes to mention what NITE is doing, well NITE is sitting on the ask @ .01.



.01 today must come!!! now NITE move right direction. all the best might be a good week.


 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Good morning everyone. Hope everyone had a great weekend and that everyone appreciated the freedom that we have in this country.

Looks like it's going to open strong this morning. And since everyone likes to mention what NITE is doing, well NITE is sitting on the ask @ .01.


Damn...thought big today...We need some news
 


Posted by lilmama on :
 
Do you think it will top out at .01?
I am new to all of this.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Az...Cats:
Damn...thought big today...We need some news

To be honest, I have no idea how this happens. I saw nothing but huge buys going through at the ask this morning and the MM's broght the price down.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
well they can't keep it down forever...can they???
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
To be honest, I have no idea how this happens. I saw nothing but huge buys going through at the ask this morning and the MM's broght the price down.

Its off the Berlin exchange correct?
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
this might be a good one to day trade until we get our PR. It's been floating between .0065 and .0075, and the MM's aren't letting this go yet. I just sold some TFCT for a profit and trying to get in at .0065. Worst case scenario you've got more shares of a company whose stock is going to pop any day now, IMO!
 
Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Selling seems to be done, we need more buys


http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=tsbb,uu[m,a]daclyyay[pb50!b200][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,9]&pref=G



 


Posted by UserName on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
this might be a good one to day trade until we get our PR. It's been floating between .0065 and .0075, and the MM's aren't letting this go yet. I just sold some TFCT for a profit and trying to get in at .0065. Worst case scenario you've got more shares of a company whose stock is going to pop any day now, IMO!

should have held that tfct


 


Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
Is TSBB listed on the Berlin exchange, and if not does anyone know when it was de-listed???
Thanks
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bigrod40:
Is TSBB listed on the Berlin exchange, and if not does anyone know when it was de-listed???
Thanks

If I remember correctly the last huge run up (98% day) was due to a positive 10Q and delisting of the Berlin Exchange
 


Posted by will on :
 
Look back on the thread. It DEFINATELY has been delisted.

quote:
Originally posted by Bigrod40:
Is TSBB listed on the Berlin exchange, and if not does anyone know when it was de-listed???
Thanks


 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
WhAT IS THE DEAL with this stock? Why can't we get it to go up? Any ideas?
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
I have an idea, patience. The deals are coming.
 
Posted by tntrader on :
 
Lets see some green today!
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
I think TSBB can be better understood in medical terms...started out with a parasite (berlin exchange) that slowly ate it away until it came down to the .004 range. Get rid of the parasite, doctor comes in a few days later and says, "hey, you're perfectly healthy now", so TSBB gets all excited, goes out and celebrates the next night (our nice run up to .01), downs a couple fifths of Jack, and then gets thrown in the hospital with alcohol poisoning and a BAC of .06. TSBB's still recovering from the alcohol poisoning as of now, and has been making a slow recovery to sobriety. So once the doctor clears him of all ailments (i.e. PR about record release), TSBB's going to once again go out and party, but this time sticking to Zima.
-yea, I'm bored at work right now

 
Posted by tntrader on :
 
Bored or not, I hope you're right
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Now that was funny Nash! Time to go out and party a bit more. This time drink like a prof. and order a glass of water with that 5th.
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Ugh....somethings got to go up.....i figured this posting at least should......product placement
 
Posted by tntrader on :
 
A little green today at least, so far
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slowgothemo73:
Ugh....somethings got to go up.....i figured this posting at least should......product placement

Granted I wish this would already be trading above .01, and I don't understand why it isn't. Patience is the key on this one. Looks like to me the trading has dried up til there is some news.
There will be some news this month on when the Glenn Cummings Album will be released. I think there will be some other news also referring to business activity and possibly some aquisitions. Once the news starts to hit again, especially since they are no longer on the Berlin exchange, this will trade above .05. <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by will on :
 
GREAT! I have free shares with a GTC sell at .048.

quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Granted I wish this would already be trading above .01, and I don't understand why it isn't. Patience is the key on this one. Looks like to me the trading has dried up til there is some news.
There will be some news this month on when the Glenn Cummings Album will be released. I think there will be some other news also referring to business activity and possibly some aquisitions. Once the news starts to hit again, especially since they are no longer on the Berlin exchange, this will trade above .05. <IMHO>



 


Posted by Vinny on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
GREAT! I have free shares with a GTC sell at .048.


What's a good entry point on this one?
 


Posted by will on :
 
Hasn't traded below .0065 in the last couple of days. Don't know if it will fall below .0065 again, if it does dip I am a buyer at .006.

quote:
Originally posted by Vinny:
What's a good entry point on this one?


 


Posted by Earth_Shaker on :
 
A good entry point in my opinion is .006 - .007 RIGHT NOW... I dont think T SBB will go LOWER then .006 IF you can get it at .006 then that would the ultimate entry point. GLTA

Earth_MAN

Patience it WILL RUN Patience.
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
(ring....ring...) Ummmm....helloooooo.....is Mr. Green there!

Ha!!!!!
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
ye ha
http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/040603/58572.html

ride em cowboy
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
************* put TSBB as one the hot stocks to watch today . . . maybe bring in some more buyers to jump start this thing
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
Growth Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. announces Country Artist Glenn Cummings To Release His New Single, 'Big'
6/3/2004 9:10:11 AM


NASHVILLE, Tenn., Jun 03, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB) announces country singer Glenn Cummings new record album under the Gulf Coast Record label.



How important is a good first impression? In country music it's the name of the game. Glenn Cummings (Gulf Coast Records) is definitely in the game, in a big way, literally. His debut single titled, "Big" (Bobby Terry/Craig Wiseman) from his debut album of the same name showcases Glenn's pure country with a rock-n-roll edge style of Country music.

"This the perfect song for me to come out with right out of the starting gate. Not only is it an extremely well written song, it also describes me. Have you seen my feet?," laughs Glenn.

There is truth in that statement. The fact is that Glenn's feet are so big that he has to have his boots custom made. Where does he go for this? Where all of the Country stars (Marty Stuart, Tanya Tucker, Alan Jackson and Vince Gill) go of course: Ammons Boots.

"Glenn's boots are so big they need their own area code," jokes Rodney Ammons, Ammons Boots. After all, Glenn's boots are a whopping 16 Double E.

Luckily, Glenn's feet are to scale with his body. His 6'5" frame creates an imposing and energetic presence on stage.

"Big" will hit radio on June 15 and Glenn's album, Big, will be on store shelves early Fall 2004. For more on Glenn Cummings visit www.gccountry.com.

The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "we're very excited about the response we have received from Nashville song promoters regarding Glenn's new album and single debut. Glenn will be attending the Country Music Festival (Fan Fair) in Nashville from June 10 - 13th and will be performing at a media event at Joes Crab Shack on June 9th. We anticipate a "Big" winner with this single and album."

About TS&B Holdings, Inc.

TS&B Holdings, Inc. is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries.

Safe Harbor

The statements made in this release constitute "forward-looking" statements, usually containing the words "believe," "estimate," "project," "expect," or similar expressions. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, changing economic conditions, interest rates trends, continued acceptance of the Company's products in the marketplace, competitive factors and other risks detailed in the Company's periodic report Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this release.

SOURCE: TS&B Holdings Inc.

Honeycutt Capital Group, LLC.
Tulsa, Oklahoma
(918) 392-0336
Honeycuttcapital@hotmail.com



 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
here we go!!!!
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
here we go!!!!

Well we got the news as expected, but no activity. Makes me wonder if anyone is awake this morning.


 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Well we got the news as expected, but no activity. Makes me wonder if anyone is awake this morning.


Volume = 3000

You think its gonna fly in a little bit?
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
I hope the volume bus didnt leave yet.....damn 3000!!!!!!!!!!1
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
well, not really sure why nothing's happening here, got the news we were looking for and TSBB was listed on theSubway .com this morning as hot stock to watch today. You'd think we'd be off to a better start...but it's still early, let people wake up and check their streamers, read the news, we'll be up today IMO
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
well, not really sure why nothing's happening here, got the news we were looking for and TSBB was listed on theSubway .com this morning as hot stock to watch today. You'd think we'd be off to a better start...but it's still early, let people wake up and check their streamers, read the news, we'll be up today IMO

I will never understand this. You take a company with huge potential and it seems to never make it. But you take a company that is deep in debt, diluted big time and the stock will run like a runaway train. None of it ever makes since.


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Looks like it's being dumped. What a joke!
 
Posted by will on :
 
It's being manipulated, retribution for its whining about shorting. I have a buy in for more at .0051.

quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Looks like it's being dumped. What a joke!


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
It's being manipulated, retribution for its whining about shorting. I have a buy in for more at .0051.



Yesterday you said you have a buy in for .006


 


Posted by bauer on :
 
subway . com has a reputation for killing stocks...
 
Posted by will on :
 
Was a day order, judt put a new one in.

quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:

Yesterday you said you have a buy in for .006



 


Posted by will on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Was a day order, just put a new one in.



 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Maybe I should bail, because as soon as I do this will take off and never look back!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
Not sure I understand anything that's going on right now
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
correct me if I'm wrong, but the news this morning was GOOD news wasn't it?
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
so the MM's control the price of this stock, but how does it benefit them to keep this one dropping on good news? Is this where the whole game of shorting comes in and they're simpy screwing us over? And if so, aren't there SEC regulations against MM's doing this kind of thing? I know pink sheets don't have to file with SEC, but don't OTCBB's have to abide by the same rules as Nasdaq traded stocks?
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
so the MM's control the price of this stock, but how does it benefit them to keep this one dropping on good news? Is this where the whole game of shorting comes in and they're simpy screwing us over? And if so, aren't there SEC regulations against MM's doing this kind of thing? I know pink sheets don't have to file with SEC, but don't OTCBB's have to abide by the same rules as Nasdaq traded stocks?

They are accumulating big time. People are being shaken, and they are picking up. I was almost shaken, not because of the news, but because of frustration. I sit here and think, if I would have sold @ .01, then I could have bought RSCA or ONEV and really be sitting nice. But I know this company is going to rock so here I PATIENTLY sit while the MM's manipulate the crap out of this, waiting for that huge POP that is sure to come. This will trade above .05, count on it!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
So the MM's try to scare people away then? What good would that do anyone? Wouldn't MM's want more people buying and selling this to make more money or do they have something else in mind? Or is it just that everything about OTC's is ass backwards all together?
 
Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
I think the news was expected already. Perhaps that's why the stock didn't take off as some people had hoped. What will give it a bump up is if Cummings' single does well in the radio.
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
So the MM's try to scare people away then? What good would that do anyone? Wouldn't MM's want more people buying and selling this to make more money or do they have something else in mind? Or is it just that everything about OTC's is ass backwards all together?


 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
They shake it down to the next support level (.006) so they can accumulate shares on the cheap. The MM's hold large inventories that they try and keep at the lowest cost to them as possible, filling their coffers at .006 is much better than .008 for them. They know that TSBB will run up very soon, and will unload their supply as it runs so they arent forced to go short on the stock and buy back higher. Its the game they play, its the life they live.
 
Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
Just doubled my position.
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
June 10th-13th Country Music Festival, Nashville TN, Glenn will be there- next week!



 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
So with the MM's dropping the price to accumulate more down here at .006, does that mean that we should be seeing some green tomorrow for those of us who haven't got shaken out? In fact I just doubled my position at .006 also.
 
Posted by will on :
 
I had to go out for a bit. I see it only dipped to .0057. Hope it doesn't see .0051. It will have to go sometime soon.
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
http://www.chimeratechnology.com/product.html

The Product: Chimera 2

Chimera 2.1, a complete online Internet gaming software package that incorporates our Online Internet Bingo technology, A full line of Online Internet Casino software, a world class Sports Book Wagering System and a state of the art "Birds Eye" management system, and never-before-seen features into one dynamic entity.

Our ability to adapt & customize the appearance, payout-levels, and the variety of games offered for our business partners is unmatched in the industry.

Chimera 2 is built on a supreme platform so that new games, sound modules, or products can be added dynamically as our development team see fit.

Chimera 2 Features:

Play For Fun or enter one of our Licensees' Internet game sites and start playing for cash.
Ongoing development for upgrades and adding new games for our business partners.
"Birds Eye" Management System, our complete, real-time management and statistic reporting software allows our business partners to effectively monitor and manage their gaming package.
Real time access to our Command Center to Customize gaming features.
Run an affiliate marketing program using "Partners Program".

 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
so our fortunes are in the hands of the MM's now, or have always been I suppose. Maybe we should send them a few gift baskets.
 
Posted by will on :
 
What's this cabbage, another stock, or a TSBB product or company?

quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
http://www.chimeratechnology.com/product.html

The Product: Chimera 2

Chimera 2.1, a complete online Internet gaming software package that incorporates our Online Internet Bingo technology, A full line of Online Internet Casino software, a world class Sports Book Wagering System and a state of the art "Birds Eye" management system, and never-before-seen features into one dynamic entity.

Our ability to adapt & customize the appearance, payout-levels, and the variety of games offered for our business partners is unmatched in the industry.

Chimera 2 is built on a supreme platform so that new games, sound modules, or products can be added dynamically as our development team see fit.

Chimera 2 Features:

Play For Fun or enter one of our Licensees' Internet game sites and start playing for cash.
Ongoing development for upgrades and adding new games for our business partners.
"Birds Eye" Management System, our complete, real-time management and statistic reporting software allows our business partners to effectively monitor and manage their gaming package.
Real time access to our Command Center to Customize gaming features.
Run an affiliate marketing program using "Partners Program".



 


Posted by will on :
 
CNOC is the symbol.
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Its the company that TSBB is in negotiations with, to buy their gaming software.

This will set them up for their online "iGaming" site, to go along with their racetrack/casino development in florida.

This will be HUGE for TSBB
 


Posted by will on :
 
LOL, see how much I know, I'm just here for the ride, if/when it starts!

quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Its the company that TSBB is in negotiations with, to buy their gaming software.

This will set them up for their online "iGaming" site, to go along with their racetrack/casino development in florida.

This will be HUGE for TSBB



 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Plan to Enter $5 Billion Dollar Interactive Gaming Industry

new york, Fla., Apr 29, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB) today announced it has entered into preliminary talks to acquire online gaming software from Chimera Technology Corp. ("Chimera") (Pink Sheets:CNOC) (http://www.chimeratechnology.com).
TS&B subsidiary, TS&B Gaming & Entertainment Corp., intends to develop an Online Casino and Website that will include blackjack, roulette, craps, pai gow and slots, among others. The Company will continue to review other potential acquisitions and software as talks continue with Chimera Technology Corp. TS&B Gaming & Entertainment Corp., a wholly owned subsidiary, was created solely for the purpose of positioning the Company in the $600 billion dollar Gaming Industry.
The CEO of TS&B Holdings, Inc. James E. Jenkins stated, "we are very excited about the opportunity with Chimera. Interactive gaming or 'iGaming' as it is commonly referred to, has quickly become the internet's second most profitable business environment. Millions of people the world over have discovered an exciting, safe and convenient form of virtual entertainment accessible from the comforts of their home, 24hours a day, 7 days a week."
According to industry analysts iGaming as a global industry has in fact become so large, so fast, that analysts from the likes of Bear Sterns and Datamonitor have been forced to reevaluate annual growth forecasts. Conservatively pegged at $5 billion today, the iGaming market is predicted to be somewhere in the neighborhood of $7-10 billion next year, with the stunning forecast of US $125 billion for the year 2015
 


Posted by Candydish on :
 
Question is what could it do for CNOC??
Candydish
 
Posted by TeenageTrader on :
 
You guys sold me... Bought at .0067. Come on .05!!
 
Posted by droppinthej on :
 
How big of an impact will buying into iGaming be for TSBB? Does it make .05 more of a realistic projection?

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The biggest risk in life is not taking one.
 


Posted by mainstay on :
 
I don't see .05, but I do see .015-.02 in the next 6 months or so.
 
Posted by will on :
 
L2 anyody?
 
Posted by FurrySound on :
 
The BID has been inching up slowly, 1 tick at a time... from .0058 to .0062 now
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by FurrySound:
The BID has been inching up slowly, 1 tick at a time... from .0058 to .0062 now

Tick......
tick..........
tick.........

BOOOOOOM!!!!!!
 


Posted by FurrySound on :
 
I'm hoping for a boom today... LOL

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
That was an upwards boom towards a penny!
 
Posted by qnique on :
 
Yeah hopefully it will come today, this stock has good potential
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/6/prweb130990.htm

StockTechs.com “Tech Alert” TS&B Holdings (OTCBB: TSBB)
StockTechs issues alerts based on technical analysis and is a free service

(PRWEB) June 4, 2004 -- TSBB has been trading near its all time lows recently, and has been discovered by the market as an undervalued stock with tremendous growth potential.

Technical Analysis Alert
TSBB is currently trading in the .006 to .008 range, down from a recent high of .05 this past February. Technical analysis of the stock shows TSBB is on the verge of a reversal.

1) The MACD fast line has been diverging from the slow line for the past 10 trading days, and is on the verge of breaking the signal line, which would indicate a buy signal.

2) The stock has broken into the upper range of its Bollinger bands, and is using the middle band as a support level.

3) The Relative Strength Index is sitting at 50, a move above 50 would indicate a strong upward trend.

4) Slow Stochastics are sitting just under 50 showing a possible move up in the near term, and that the stock is not overbought currently.

The critical technical breakout point for TSBB is .008, which is the 50 day moving average and has shown to be the strongest recent resistance level. A break past .008 will confirm a move up with the MACD, RSI, and Stochastics.

Volume in the past 10-15 trading days has been above average and has made the stock much more liquid and given it a more orderly trading pattern.

Fundamentals
The Company's 10Q was filed with the Securities & Exchange Commission on Friday, May 21, 2004. The 10Q showed a 511% increase in total assets over the same quarter in 2003 and a 705% increase compared to the Company's year-end of June 30, 2003. James V. Sadrianna stated, ``This quarter fulfilled our earlier expectations of increased asset and shareholder value. There is a net increase in stockholders equity of $1,557,309 after adjustments for the recent change to 1940 Investment Act status. Total assets of $1,921,476 were reported for March 31, 2004 versus $314,441 for the same period in 2003 and $238,758 for the Company's year-end of June 30, 2003. The Company reported net income for the first quarter of 2004 of $418,727 versus net income of $4,477 for the same period in 2003. Shareholder's Equity increased from ($76,902) in March of 2003 to $1,303,160 for the same period in 2004. Shareholders can look forward to continued profitable operations as the Company continues to execute its business plan as a Business Development Company

Future Developments
TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Plan to Enter $5 Billion Dollar Interactive Gaming Industryannounced it has entered into preliminary talks to acquire online gaming software from Chimera Technology Corp. (OTC:CNOC.PK). TS&B subsidiary, TS&B Gaming & Entertainment Corp., intends to develop an Online Casino and Website that will include blackjack, roulette, craps, pai gow and slots, among others. The Company will continue to review other potential acquisitions and software as talks continue with Chimera Technology Corp. TS&B Gaming & Entertainment Corp., a wholly owned subsidiary, was created solely for the purpose of positioning the Company in the $600 billion dollar Gaming Industry.



 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Sounds like great news but when the MM's have a hold of it and manipulate the heck out of it it makes it so hard for TSBB to move. Have you seen the daily charts on this stock. Up to .067 down to .058. Its automatic. Just gonna keep my shares and hope for breaking that nasty threshold. It will come guys!
 
Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/6/prweb130990.htm

StockTechs.com “Tech Alert” TS&B Holdings (OTCBB: TSBB)
StockTechs issues alerts based on technical analysis and is a free service

(PRWEB) June 4, 2004 -- TSBB has been trading near its all time lows recently, and has been discovered by the market as an undervalued stock with tremendous growth potential.

Technical Analysis Alert
TSBB is currently trading in the .006 to .008 range, down from a recent high of .05 this past February. Technical analysis of the stock shows TSBB is on the verge of a reversal.


Great DD Cabbage!
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
I still can't believe this stock is at the level it's at. It should be trading @ atleast .03. The only thing I can figure is once it blows, it's going straight to the moon. The MM's are not getting my shares til then.

This is a coiled spring that's getting tighter and tighter.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman

[This message has been edited by platapuss (edited June 04, 2004).]
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
I dont know what to think either, although I like that last article tho, I am debating on buying more.
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
I'm with ya Plat!! Gonna keep those shares regardless. Blow me MM's
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by beginner:
you all still think this is good?
I put in a buy order for .005 this AM, but I may lower the price...it looks like its coming down.

It aint coming that low
 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Just when you think its making a run, It takes a sh.. Arg they are killing me here!
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
?

We closed green and held the support, what's bad about that? lol
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 

[This message has been edited by cabbage22 (edited June 07, 2004).]
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
anywhere I can find tips on reading those charts? maybe a book or two?
contemplating picking up more of this one.
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
Growth Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Closing of First Private Debt Financing Through the Issuance of a Subordinated Debenture
via COMTEX

June 7, 2004

ORLANDO, Fla., Jun 07, 2004 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) --

TS&B Holdings, Inc. ('Company'or 'TS&B') (OTCBB:TSBB) announced it recently completed the funding of its first debt instrument as a BDC through an unregistered subordinated debenture with an accredited investor.

This is the first debt instrument issued by Company since becoming a BDC that does not convert into common stock. The debenture is a three year, $150,000 obligation at eleven percent interest. This is the first placement through TSB Ventures Inc., a company formed by TS&B in March to develop a series of investment partnerships that will be instrumental in financing associated transactions for TS&B.

The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, 'We're very excited about our first debenture placement as a BDC that does not affect the common stock. The Company is currently working on structuring similar instruments. The debt is serviced through revenue from the targeted acquisitions. The response the Company has received from investors is very positive. Recently, there has been many positive articles in the financial press regarding BDC's and their ability to raise capital in the markets. We believe this first placement will bring other investors to the Company.'

About TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings Inc. is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries.

Safe Harbor

The statements made in this release constitute 'forward-looking'statements, usually containing the words 'believe,''estimate,''project,''expect,'or similar expressions. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, changing economic conditions, interest rates trends, continued acceptance of the Company's products in the marketplace, competitive factors and other risks detailed in the Company's periodic report Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this release.

SOURCE: TS&B Holdings Inc.

Honeycutt Capital Group, LLC (918) 392-0336 Honeycuttcapital@hotmail.com

(C) 2004 PRIMEZONE, All rights reserved.

 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
anywhere I can find tips on reading those charts? maybe a book or two?
contemplating picking up more of this one.

Tic_toc I asked the same questioned DOGGG helped me out.

Heres his reply.

quote:
Originally posted by dardadog:

Here are a few more that are helpful...
http://quotes.freerealtime.com/dl/frt/S
http://www.nanocaps.com/
http://www.otclinks.com/

.....and my personal crystal ball.........
http://www.microcaptrade.com/otc/index.jsp

....hope these will help.



 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Looks this is being walked down again this morning. This is really starting to get old!
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
I didn't think the news was bad...then again it did the same thing when the PR about the record release came out. I really wish this would just give in and pop, I was hoping to take some profits and throw more into CMKX, not going to sell for loss here though.
 
Posted by UserName on :
 
i think it will close in the green today
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
3mil shares bought at the ask of .0065 and it has not budged. The MM's are really holding this down so they can accumulate. This is definitely a coiled spring getting extremely tight. It is going too, it has too, spring any day now. <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
thanks meshoe
 
Posted by VIP on :
 
the time is now IN TSBB.

Breaking out soon.

MM bid higher..
check level2
 


Posted by bauer on :
 
first cmkx, then aisi, then this. What a wonderful day!!!
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
now in a perfect world TSBB would pop today and break through .01, that way I can sell half for some profits to throw into CMKX and make my first million by 22
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
now in a perfect world TSBB would pop today and break through .01, that way I can sell half for some profits to throw into CMKX and make my first million by 22

LOL ... you are going to share those millions with all other CMKX investors correct? Do you honestly think its that easy?
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
3mil shares bought at the ask of .0065 and it has not budged. The MM's are really holding this down so they can accumulate. This is definitely a coiled spring getting extremely tight. It is going too, it has too, spring any day now. <IMHO>


Has the spring sprung?

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
LOL ... you are going to share those millions with all other CMKX investors correct? Do you honestly think its that easy?

Hence the term "perfect world"

 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
It takes Millions of shares to barely move this up and only a few thousand to walk it down. Now tell me that's not manipulation by the MM's!
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
makes me wanna be a MM
 
Posted by FurrySound on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
makes me wanna be a MM

Then we'd all be hating you

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by FurrySound on :
 
Looks like we are pushing hard on 007... someone mentioned a late afternoon run... looks possible. With the shortened trade week, we need it to happen now.

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
closed at our high for today...sign of some strength? maybe? is that possible with this one?
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Nash you underestimate the power of the double B's!!!
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Nash you underestimate the power of the double B's!!!

HAHA I agree, I think we will see a lot of green the rest of the week, but a lot of bouncing like we did today, a gradual rise, and then a take off.
 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Meshoe45:
HAHA I agree, I think we will see a lot of green the rest of the week, but a lot of bouncing like we did today, a gradual rise, and then a take off.

HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT! TSBB needs a spike! and we are all ready for it!
 


Posted by mainstay on :
 
Heavy accumulation at .006 here. I thought they might try to take us down to .005, but the buying has been heavy at this level. .015 - .02 may come sooner than I thought. Look for sideways trading the rest of this week if no significant news is announced. Either way, it's primed for a run soon enough.
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
UT premarket


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Somethings brewing!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Nash you underestimate the power of the double B's!!!

Haha, nah, I'm just bitter because I've been watching TFCT fly the past few days and I jumped out back at .068 for 25% profits...bad move on my part, it's at .11 now. In the meantime I've been sitting here on the sidelines with TSBB waiting for our bounce. It's on the way though, we've weathered the storm here, worked our way back to .0075, hopefully MM's will let it go.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Well this is slowly moving up and no one is saying anything. WAKEUP! If you are not in this, now is the time. Just like all the others, this one is fixing to have it's day and is going to explode throgh the roof. Don't miss the boat at these prices. The sale won't last forever!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by qnique on :
 
I'm in and been in since 0058 and I am loving it right now.
 
Posted by will on :
 
I'm in at an average of .0000 !

quote:
Originally posted by qnique:
I'm in and been in since 0058 and I am loving it right now.


 


Posted by theprofit on :
 
IF pr comes out for this one in the next few days I believe it's going to explode. It seems to be bottled up right now. LEt's go tsbb!
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
Watch out...just hit .008, I'm liking the slow creeping we've been doing all morning. Still moving up.
 
Posted by UserName on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by theprofit:
IF pr comes out for this one in the next few days I believe it's going to explode. It seems to be bottled up right now. LEt's go tsbb!

looks like someone lit the fuse
 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
.008? Thats was so 5 seconds ago!
 
Posted by SimplePlan on :
 
She's Runnin! .0089
 
Posted by donb on :
 
.0089, I think the run is starting...
 
Posted by FurrySound on :
 
.0089 .. nice

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Somethings brewing!



Told Ya!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Prdponce on :
 
.09 does anyone say .092
 
Posted by FurrySound on :
 
.0101 is what I say... now lets get there!

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
the high right now is .009. I bough 1000000 at ,oo58 and I am loving this movement. Is it going to stop or keep going?

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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
we're alive again!
 
Posted by tntrader on :
 
Keep it going TSBB!
 
Posted by Malloy on :
 
YEP!

quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
we're alive again!


 


Posted by qnique on :
 
Man we are really moving
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
ohh, NOW I remember why I held on to this for the past 2 weeks
 
Posted by FurrySound on :
 
Little dip.. someone taking profits, no worries.

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
will it continue to climb all day?

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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Well this is slowly moving up and no one is saying anything. WAKEUP! If you are not in this, now is the time. Just like all the others, this one is fixing to have it's day and is going to explode throgh the roof. Don't miss the boat at these prices. The sale won't last forever!


Well, looks like the sleeping Giant has wokenup once again!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
Doing nicely!
we will see a whole penny today!
 
Posted by donb on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
ohh, NOW I remember why I held on to this for the past 2 weeks

My sentiments exactly.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Only 4 MM's sitting on the ask til .01

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
If this breaks a penny today, watch out! This is the beauty of when you do your DD, because you know it's just a matter of time before it explodes.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by VIP on :
 
MM bidding higher just now.
a couple of those big guy are bidding up.

hope we close over .011 today.


 


Posted by VIP on :
 
MM bidding higher just now.
a couple of those big guy are bidding up.

hope we close over .011 today.


 


Posted by donb on :
 
Anyone else feeling an afternoon run to possibly .015??
 
Posted by VIP on :
 
guess what guys?

all the .009 MM are almost gone.

.01+ could happen tomorrow trading time.


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by VIP:
guess what guys?

all the .009 MM are almost gone.

.01+ could happen tomorrow trading time.



I bet it's going to happen today!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
does any think that it will make an afternoon run and hit .01 before close? What is the outlook of the stock for tommorrow? Should I sell now or hold on? PLEASE help!!! THANKS

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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
I think .015 is a little too aggressive. But could reach 0.011 at best! Hope I'm wrong and it goes higher...cuz you never know..the market too unpredictable!
quote:
Originally posted by donb:
Anyone else feeling an afternoon run to possibly .015??


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sgt. of ARMS:
does any think that it will make an afternoon run and hit .01 before close? What is the outlook of the stock for tommorrow? Should I sell now or hold on? PLEASE help!!! THANKS


You can read the earlier posts to see what everyone thinks where this going. Whether or not you sell is up to you. But you need to make that decision for yourself. However, I wouldn't sell now when it's on fire!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
I agree with Plat...it has finally gained some momentum. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't momentum swings usually last 1.5 to 2 trading days? Just based on my limited experience. What do you think Plat?
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
You can read the earlier posts to see what everyone thinks where this going. Whether or not you sell is up to you. But you need to make that decision for yourself. However, I wouldn't sell now when it's on fire!



 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
The Graph seems to show that he MM's are not playin this one as much anymore as they have been for the past couple of weeks. It seems to be more of a steady climb instead of a straight up and down graph. thinking close at .0093. This should be a good one for the long!!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Last time it ran it went to just past .01 and back down to the .005's, and traded between that and .007 since about 5/25 until this little run.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Last time it ran it went to just past .01 and back down to the .005's, and traded between that and .007 since about 5/25 until this little run.

That last run was do to the News that was released, this run is without any news, which tells me that some news is comming. So when the good news hits....

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by TeenageTrader on :
 
Lets go TSBB, hit that .03-.05 range... How long you think it will take to get back up?

 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Any ideas on the fallback??
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wilthethrill:
Any ideas on the fallback??

Wow! I leave for an hour and come back to this.
 


Posted by UserName on :
 
i hope the pos doesnt close in the red after such a good morning
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
I'm still pretty confident in the stock, just wondering what the reasoning behind dropping it would be. Doesn't make any sense for a stock undervalued. Oh well, I guess I'll by some more.
 
Posted by donb on :
 
Demand for the stock dropped as it started to rise. In addition, people were all trying to buy in "low" in order to catch a piece of the action. This caused the price to come back down. I believe that now that it's low again, all of those people got the price they wanted and it's going to have a nice afternoon climb. The lower price should increase demand once again.
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
I now have 200,000 shares. Not much compared to some here but I figure with such a low float this thing will move up nicely. I figure there will be news out sooner than we all think.
 
Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by UserName:
i hope the pos doesnt close in the red after such a good morning

What is that matter with this thing? I want to unload this thing. C'mom 1 cent! let's head back up!
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
90 mil shares don't trade just so this can sit here and do nothing. Something is going on...the MM's want cheap shares, people want cheap shares and they are getting cheap shares. This is going to blow hard!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman

[This message has been edited by platapuss (edited June 08, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by platapuss (edited June 08, 2004).]
 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
I hate this stock! But, I am still holding!
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:
I hate this stock! But, I am still holding!

The sell and move on!
 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
I'm in.....
 
Posted by Spastic_Gramps on :
 
I'm in too... like to see an afternoon run up here.
 
Posted by Dardadog on :
 
I think the run is beginning.

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!


DaDog
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
It doesn't know what to do, I think people are leary about buying it closer to .01 due to what happened before.
 
Posted by keithsan on :
 
meshoe, from .072 to a penny and maybe beyond is a nice run!

 
Posted by Malloy on :
 
TSBB has been good to me. It has a rythm. Bought around .006 and sold near .01 a few times. But I always keep some cause it'll break .01 eventually and I don,t want to be left behind.

Malloy
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
well the stage is set for tomorrow it seems. People who were afraid they missed the run get a second chance to jump aboard this afternoon, hopefully we get a nice EOD run that keeps moving through tomorrow.
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Close above .008 would be nice. Not enough time for .009...........we'll save that for tomorrow.
 
Posted by keithsan on :
 
I'm expecting a nice gap up in the AM, this is playing great, good call malloy, does have a nice rythym


LOL- forgot to send this

 


Posted by TeenageTrader on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by donb:
Demand for the stock dropped as it started to rise. In addition, people were all trying to buy in "low" in order to catch a piece of the action. This caused the price to come back down. I believe that now that it's low again, all of those people got the price they wanted and it's going to have a nice afternoon climb. The lower price should increase demand once again.

I agree, I almost sold when it was up about 20% this morning but I held on to it... trying to keep a longer hold on this one... Things are looking good for it though, it has gotten back up to +11%

 


Posted by Dardadog on :
 
THEY LINED THIS UP FOR A NICE GAP UP IN THE MORNING WITH THE LATE DAY BUYS.

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Due Da Due......But Be Quick About It!!!!!


DaDog
 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
chart:
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=TSBB,uu[m,a]daclyyay[pb32!b10][vc60][iUh14,3!La12,26,9]&pref=G

some good signs on this chart, 10ma (red) crossing the 32 MA notice last time it happened end of DEC 2003.

Stochs are moving up with black over red crossing, A buy signal to some.

I held
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
I am actually pretty disappointed. Although I know that this is a great buy and it's going to trade a lot higher, I just don't like the way it's manipulated by the MM's. With the amount of shares traded and the amount of buys, this should have closed at or above .01. Like I said earlier, obviously something is up for this type of action today on no news. Either that or it's at the mercy of day traders. I am still holding and will continue to hold way past .01.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Looks like it may Gap up
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Looks like it may Gap up


Today is going to be an awesome day for TSBB.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Any L2's.....thanks in advance
 
Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:

Today is going to be an awesome day for TSBB.



Why - is it finally going to move up and STAY up? Got news?
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:
Why - is it finally going to move up and STAY up? Got news?

The NEWS is "hang on tight"!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by UserName on :
 
the ship is sinking......... again
 
Posted by needtoretire on :
 
I'm holding on tight, as it drops!
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
***NEWS***

Weak Hands are jumping ship! The MM's have shaken the tree! Hahahhahahahhahah, I love It! Hold tight and strong. Do your DD to find out why. I can't wait til I read that posts of people saying, "Man, I shouldn't have sold", "I'm kicking myself", "Is .10 a good price to get in?" LOL

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
why can't we be like TFCT this week?
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
First off, I'm still trying to understand the tactics and logic behind the MM's, and it seems to me that the more attractive this stock looks the worse it does. So then people bring up the argument that the MM's are shorting this one. So if the MM's are shorting and trying to "shake the boat" and knock off those who are unsure of holding right now, wouldn't it be in our best interest to almost encourage those people to sell? Wouldn't this result in the MM's covering their shares which would then cause us to go up? Correct me if I'm wrong here, which I probably am.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Would you like to be the first one?

quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
First off, I'm still trying to understand the tactics and logic behind the MM's, and it seems to me that the more attractive this stock looks the worse it does. So then people bring up the argument that the MM's are shorting this one. So if the MM's are shorting and trying to "shake the boat" and knock off those who are unsure of holding right now, wouldn't it be in our best interest to almost encourage those people to sell? Wouldn't this result in the MM's covering their shares which would then cause us to go up? Correct me if I'm wrong here, which I probably am.


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Don't forget people, the single is being released next week, more aquisitions are underway, there will be some news about the Gaming site and the track down in Florida. Nothing but huge gains here. I repeat, I am not going to sell my shares because the MM's want them. They know whats up, that's why they want them. There is money to be made here folks. Don't let this opp pass you buy. If you bailed, you better climb back aboard. As I have said before, patience is the key here. The reason people bail is because they watch this minute by minute and then they get scared and sell. I won't charge you all anything for this GREAT ADVICE! Always do your DD. <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Would you like to be the first one?


nope I'm in till .03, and then some if we're still flying. I've got the seatbelt buckled, not going anywhere.
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Nash-

Im sure yesterday's move caught the MMs by surprise since there was no news, they werent expecting a strong technical move past the .008 mark. This likely forced them to go short delivering shares to the brokerages, and consequently forced them to drop the price on mostly air to get back to net long. Its also possible they may still be short, which would put some light buying pressure on for today. This mornings drop was just to set the stage to cover their short positions IMO.

 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
we were up to .0094 yesterday and they brought us all the way back to .0067 now...how low do they need to go to cover?!
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
we were up to .0094 yesterday and they brought us all the way back to .0067 now...how low do they need to go to cover?!

Yea they been doing this for a few days.
I got an idea LET IT TAKE OFF and join TFCT, CMKX and any other stock heading towards the moon.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
yea, I had both, sold my cmkx at .0008 for 700% profit yesterday, trying to get back in at .0005, might not drop that low though. TFCT I'm still bitter about, sold 2 days ago before the huge movement, was hoping for a bit of a retrace, didn't come. Now I'm kicking myself and just waiting for TSBB to get me some profits to throw back in both of those.
 
Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Don't forget people, the single is being released next week, more aquisitions are underway, there will be some news about the Gaming site and the track down in Florida. Nothing but huge gains here. I repeat, I am not going to sell my shares because the MM's want them. They know whats up, that's why they want them. There is money to be made here folks. Don't let this opp pass you buy. If you bailed, you better climb back aboard. As I have said before, patience is the key here. The reason people bail is because they watch this minute by minute and then they get scared and sell. I won't charge you all anything for this GREAT ADVICE! Always do your DD. <IMHO>


OKAY Platapus - I am still holding strong. But I admit I am losing patience. It was tempting to sell at .009 yesterday. I still want to see that .03-.05 range the CEO said this should be at!
 


Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
where has that been said? "...that .03-.05 range the CEO said this should be at"
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:
OKAY Platapus - I am still holding strong. But I admit I am losing patience. It was tempting to sell at .009 yesterday. I still want to see that .03-.05 range the CEO said this should be at!


 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
dig through pr's announced the day it first flew up to .01
 
Posted by will on :
 
When they identified the Berlin Exchange as being the culprit of the low PPS in a PR.

quote:
Originally posted by CuriousBull:
where has that been said? "...that .03-.05 range the CEO said this should be at"


 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
everytime we come alive the MM's are putting us right back in a choke hold. Don't think I like it.
 
Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
Like a coiled spring

 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
might lead us to a promising afternoon, L2's sure look good.
 
Posted by will on :
 
Bought more @ .0066, I've been waiting for it to trade down to .005's it just hasn't happened, and if/when it does, I'll buy more.

quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
might lead us to a promising afternoon, L2's sure look good.


 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
hey, we're back to .006 ... what a coincidence.
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
this is the game we play ... just don't fall into the MM trap ... just picked up more @ .0067
 
Posted by will on :
 
Got ya by a tick, Gman , lol, you might have to go for more now!
quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
this is the game we play ... just don't fall into the MM trap ... just picked up more @ .0067


 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
Geez ... can never keep up with ya will. =) You can bet I'm buying more just to get that tick back. LOL

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Gus
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
My prediction is that late afternoon we are gonna see many buys by the MM's to cover shorts.
 
Posted by will on :
 
They have to run this thing sooner or later. Don't worry about the the tick, Gman, you probably buy 10 X more than I can afford, lol.
quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
My prediction is that late afternoon we are gonna see many buys by the MM's to cover shorts.


 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
It's gonna be ok in the end for all of us who stand strong as these MM's shake the weak down. Will, I dunno about 10X more, but from what I've seen ... your on pace for great returns. We have very similar perspectives on many stocks and are in many of the same ones. For the ones that I've seen us in ... we're gonna have a nice summer in the sunshine. Just a matter of time when. Good luck to ya will and for the rest of us.

P.S. -- don't let PRIM slide off your watchlist ... you're gonna be happy you got in as low you (I mean we) did. LOL
 


Posted by will on :
 
I almost bought more PRIM on that pull back today, but I think I need to impose another buying moratorium on my buying. I'm getting too extended again.

quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
It's gonna be ok in the end for all of us who stand strong as these MM's shake the weak down. Will, I dunno about 10X more, but from what I've seen ... your on pace for great returns. We have very similar perspectives on many stocks and are in many of the same ones. For the ones that I've seen us in ... we're gonna have a nice summer in the sunshine. Just a matter of time when. Good luck to ya will and for the rest of us.

P.S. -- don't let PRIM slide off your watchlist ... you're gonna be happy you got in as low you (I mean we) did. LOL



 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
I guess I should have sold yesterday at .0091 and bought back at these low prices. The only problem with this stock is not enough trades. Under 200 for the day. Yesterday was 600. This needs a lot more attention than that. GZFX had 2000 trades today. That's where we need to be if we really want to see this fly. Another words, the train has not been filled to capacity so therefore it hasn't left yet.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
Yea, I had a sell order in for .0098, had a meeting for 2 hours, came back and yea. It sure is easy to look back and kick yourself for not selling at certain times, only wish it was that easy to do the other way around. Anyone have next week's charts?
 
Posted by tntrader on :
 
If I had access to next week's charts this week, I wouldn't even have to work
 
Posted by will on :
 
Is this the real deal this morning? Gapped up.
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
might be if we get some more volume. We're stuck at 1,130,000
 
Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
Good morning to all. What is up with this stock? Some of you have posted that it will break lose for days now. And others say it will hit .01. Is there any news about this stock? Does anyone know when it might get some news? Will it start to and maybe break .01 when some news comes out?

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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
well with everything the company is involved with it's hard to believe we haven't seen more news recently than we have. Once we get some news on either the success of the record release, or some news on the racetrack or any other area of their business we should react more positively.
We've been saying how this is a coiled spring and whatnot, ready to go, and it is.
We got news a few days after our first bounce about the record release, but the problem with that news was that everyone expected it. So it really wasn't new news to anyone who already new about TSBB. I want to see a PR updating the racetrack, or hopefully the success of the record release and that they're bringing in money. Maybe then we'll start our run
 
Posted by will on :
 
will
Member posted May 22, 2004 12:54
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
QUESTION ???
I have been reading that the naked shorting has ceased on TSSB. Wouldn't that be the naked shorting that was taking place on the Berlin Exchange. Given that they might have been the most flagrant offenders, but is it / could it still be going on here? Also, is there a strong possibility that TSBB might be a target of shorters now that they have openly complained. Kinda, sorta, MM's thinking let's teach these whiners a lesson. I have seen that theory alluded to on the message board, complainers get spanked. Is it possible or am I misunderstanding something in this scenario?

Thry're still shorting this to death.
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
MM's ... ya gotta love em huh?!
 
Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
I think since I have only been trading less than 1 month maybe my opinion means nothing. However after reading the boards I think that the mm's should be taken out behind the barn and given a good thrashing with a rose bush.

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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by GREGDOGG on :
 
Buys coming in
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
this thing keeps stuttering on the run, because the MM's want it to. Panic selling would be borderline insanity right about now. LOL
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
sure would be nice to get a run here from TSBB and get some extra cash to jump in TFCT right now.
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
I just got the greatest feeling when my order for .0059 filled ... I'm almost down to ya will! LOL
 
Posted by will on :
 
My average is .0033.
"Can't touch that"

quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
I just got the greatest feeling when my order for .0059 filled ... I'm almost down to ya will! LOL


 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
this stock is trying my patience. its like one of those people you hate but you have to keep sweet because you dont know what they may be able to for you down the line.
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
My average is .0033.
"Can't touch that"


LMAO
 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
financials out, I'll just post link, copying them makes them hard to read.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=TSBB.OB
 
Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
That's old...their 10Q came out on 05/21/04
quote:
Originally posted by keithsan:
financials out, I'll just post link, copying them makes them hard to read.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=TSBB.OB


 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
HUH! Info came out 9AM this morning. I'm thinkin' its not old news......Geez!
 
Posted by FurrySound on :
 
Well, either way, if it helps drop the stock a little on Monday so I can buy back in, I'm fine with it

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by keithsan on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CuriousBull:
That's old...their 10Q came out on 05/21/04


listed as today from edgar, maybe its just the breakdown of the 10q's #'s

 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
Yup its new PR on Yahoo, well hey its decent PR so lets sore on Monday!

As well as BSIO
 


Posted by will on :
 
I don't see any ( ) around that bottom line. Maybe we'll get a little bounce Monday. That isn't the problem with this stock though. It's under MM attack, and heavily manipulated. SOON!
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
I don't see any ( ) around that bottom line. Maybe we'll get a little bounce Monday. That isn't the problem with this stock though. It's under MM attack, and heavily manipulated. SOON!

Yea, I am in until we see something past a cent or 2. Im waiting. Damn MM's
 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
I think it may run to the high 8's again, possibly the low 9's then the MM's will try to put the lid back on. This shouldn't last too long.
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
I think it may run to the high 8's again, possibly the low 9's then the MM's will try to put the lid back on. This shouldn't last too long.
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
This is still a great Co. worth investing in and I didn't want to lose the thread on it. Good luck to all invested in TSBB. Long term here!!
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
W/QBID and CMKX getting all my attention....I almost forgot my TSBB holdings.......any ideas for this one today

my fellow stock lauretes....
 


Posted by donb on :
 
It's only a matter of time...
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
James J. Jenkins, CEO stated, ``I'm very pleased by the Company's third quarter results. This is great news. Of equal importance, our fourth quarter-projected results appear favorable. With the addition of Cummings Financial Services, Inc. to our portfolio, we expect the Company's shareholder value to increase substantially. The management has worked very hard to bring the Company to its present state. We have a dedicated group of professionals and we are proud of our accomplishments.''

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
``Big'' will hit radio on June 15 and Glenn's album, Big, will be on store shelves early Fall 2004. For more on Glenn Cummings visit http://www.gccountry.com.

The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, ``we're very excited about the response we have received from Nashville song promoters regarding Glenn's new album and single debut. Glenn will be attending the Country Music Festival (Fan Fair) in Nashville from June 10 - 13th and will be performing at a media event at Joes Crab Shack on June 9th. We anticipate a ''Big`` winner with this single and album.''

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by tntrader on :
 
Finally, some updward movement
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
I hate waiting! Come on TSBB
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tntrader:
Finally, some updward movement

?
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
can someone post the MM's on L2
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
GREAT ENTRY POINT!! THIS COMPANY SHOWS SUCH GREAT POTENTIAL. LETS SEE A NICE POP.
I SEE .015 IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND .01 IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.


 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
yup, been here a few weeks, this is the lowest it's been, jump in, good future here.
 
Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
yup, been here a few weeks, this is the lowest it's been, jump in, good future here.

WHEN? When do you think this will move up and STAY green?
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
Well, check out the charts for the past month. After the first bounce to .01 it fell back to the .006 range. From there it jumped back to .0094, and now it's back to the .006 range, little less right now. Everytime we see green here people are saying it's the day, maybe jinxing ourselves, but if you go by the charts right now it's fairly oversold, and lowest it's been in a month. So I don't know, not a pro here, but it seems to me that the signs from a statistical perspective are promising, and the potential of this company is more reason to jump aboard. My average is .0062, bought most at .006, planning on taking some profits at .015, the rest I'll hold till .03-.04
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
Good analysis nashdaq . That is exactly what i believed. Its just a matter of time. From the looks at the chart and the promise of the company I don't think thers much time. This is to easy. It will be back at .01 within one week if things hold constant. I beleive within 1 or 2 months it should be in the .03-.04 range. These are just my views. Take a look and make your own mind up.
 
Posted by tntrader on :
 
GLTA today!
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
can someone post the MM's on L2

Bid

3 @ .0053
2 @ .0052
1 @ .0051
9 @ .005 (and 13 more)

Ask
1 @ .0062
1 @ .0063
3 @ .0065
2 @ .0075
1 @ .0082
 


Posted by Smctbone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Meshoe45:
Bid
3 @ .0053

Ask
1 @ .0062


Wow...HUGE spread for TSBB. Any experts want to comment on this?
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Smctbone:
Wow...HUGE spread for TSBB. Any experts want to comment on this?

Its like that every day, that's why it goes up and then just shoots back down, goes up shoots back down.

Each day its .0053 and .0063
Bids will go up .0057 - .0063 makes the portfolio look good as soon as those bids are gone, back down to .0053.

I have no idea why the spready tho, I just want it to pop
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Meshoe45:
I have no idea why the spready tho, I just want it to pop

yup, sure would like it to pop
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
... a waiting game ... have an order to pick up more @ .0057
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
filled
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
I believe the are releasing the single from the BIG Cd today. Should be interesting to see the response.
 
Posted by 2ndrow on :
 

It appears as if the MM's have tightened the spread a little bit. Hopefully this will allow for increased volume and eventually upward movement. Volume has nearly doubled in the last half hour after they tightened the spread which shows there is still a lot of interest. Anyways, best of luck to everyone...Ryan
 
Posted by 2ndrow on :
 
Well, there goes the spread again back to .0052/.0057. What a joke...
 
Posted by tstruck02 on :
 
Did you all see this news?

Wall Street News Alert: Stock Focus List for Tuesday! June 15, 2004 ( )
Weston, FLA., Jun 15, 2004 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Wall Street News Alert` s "stocks to watch" this morning are: Media International Concepts Incorporated ( OTC:MEIC), iMERGENT, Inc. ( OTCBB:IMGG), American Fire Retardant Corp. ( OTCBB:AFRT) and TS&B Holdings Inc. ( OTCBB:TSBB).
Aggressive investors and traders should take another look at Media International Concepts, Inc. ( OTC:MEIC) this morning! Yesterday after the markets closed, the company issued a press release announcing it has executed a letter of commitment with Spike`s Pictures, LLC to provide partial financing resulting in an approximate 8.33% ownership in the feature motion picture "Spike`s" starring Christina Applegate and Paul Sorvino!

This could be huge news for investors! The film is being produced by Lisa Schahet of HBO`s comedy short "Cloud Nine" and development for John Wells Productions with David Wendell, syndicated TV hit "Blind Date," film short `elevator Man" and feature film "Smut" as writer/director." The letter of commitment also gives MEIC the right to become the sole investor for the duo`s rock horror project "Death Rock," said Michael Marcovsky, CEO of MEIC.

Christina Applegate known for her roles in "Married With Children" and "Jesse" recently starred as Cameron Diaz`s best friend in the film "The Sweetest Thing" (2002) and with Gwyneth Paltrow in "View From the Top" (2003). She is also starring in several major films in 2004. The Dreamworks movie in which she stars with Will Farrell "Anchorman" is set for July 9, 2004 release. This will be followed with her starring roles with Ben Affleck and James Gandolfini in "Surviving Christmas" being released by Dreamworks on November 19, 2004.

Paul Sorvino is best known for his roles in "Goodfellas" (1990) and Dick Tracy (1990) as well as "Nixon" (1995) and "The Cooler" (2003).

Other significant supporting talent in "Spike`s" include Cathy Moriarty "Raging Bull"-Academy Award Nominee for Best Supporting Actress and "Analyze That," as well as Maxwell Caulfield "Grease 2," "Empire Records," "The Real Blonde," and "Dynasty."

Keep your eyes on this company! MEIC`s interest in "Spike`s" based upon the LLC` s projections, could generate from $100,000 in profit at the low end with no U.S. theatrical release, to $600,000 in profit at the high-end with a U.S. theatrical release.

The stock closed yesterday at $0.05 a share.

In case you are not familiar with the company! Media International Concepts Inc. acquires and operates advertising, entertainment, educational programming and production companies. MEIC creates synergies by exploiting both traditional and emerging distribution channels. MEIC is being positioned to be on the leading edge of the industry by providing entertainment and information through fixed wireless broadband.

Stocks showing interesting activity yesterday were: iMERGENT, Inc. ( OTCBB:IMGG) up 4.4% on 246,700 shares traded, American Fire Retardant Corp. ( OTCBB:AFRT) down 7.4% on 243.2 million shares traded and TS&B Holdings Inc. ( OTCBB:TSBB) down 5% on 55 million shares traded.

Commentary: "The Labor Department claimed that only 4.633 jobs, or 2% of total layoffs, were moved overseas during the first quarter of 2004. Critics say these numbers are wrong, and only a fraction of the true number of jobs has been tabulated," Stated Sonja Rudd in Wall Street News Alert`s daily commentary continued at: http://www.***********************.

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Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tstruck02:
Did you all see this news?

Wall Street News Alert: Stock Focus List for Tuesday! June 15, 2004 ( )
Weston, FLA., Jun 15, 2004 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Wall Street News Alert` s "stocks to watch" this morning are: Media International Concepts Incorporated ( OTC:MEIC), iMERGENT, Inc. ( OTCBB:IMGG), American Fire Retardant Corp. ( OTCBB:AFRT) and TS&B Holdings Inc. ( OTCBB:TSBB).
Aggressive investors and traders should take another look at Media International Concepts, Inc. ( OTC:MEIC) this morning! Yesterday after the markets closed, the company issued a press release announcing it has executed a letter of commitment with Spike`s Pictures, LLC to provide partial financing resulting in an approximate 8.33% ownership in the feature motion picture "Spike`s" starring Christina Applegate and Paul Sorvino!

This could be huge news for investors! The film is being produced by Lisa Schahet of HBO`s comedy short "Cloud Nine" and development for John Wells Productions with David Wendell, syndicated TV hit "Blind Date," film short `elevator Man" and feature film "Smut" as writer/director." The letter of commitment also gives MEIC the right to become the sole investor for the duo`s rock horror project "Death Rock," said Michael Marcovsky, CEO of MEIC.

Christina Applegate known for her roles in "Married With Children" and "Jesse" recently starred as Cameron Diaz`s best friend in the film "The Sweetest Thing" (2002) and with Gwyneth Paltrow in "View From the Top" (2003). She is also starring in several major films in 2004. The Dreamworks movie in which she stars with Will Farrell "Anchorman" is set for July 9, 2004 release. This will be followed with her starring roles with Ben Affleck and James Gandolfini in "Surviving Christmas" being released by Dreamworks on November 19, 2004.

Paul Sorvino is best known for his roles in "Goodfellas" (1990) and Dick Tracy (1990) as well as "Nixon" (1995) and "The Cooler" (2003).

Other significant supporting talent in "Spike`s" include Cathy Moriarty "Raging Bull"-Academy Award Nominee for Best Supporting Actress and "Analyze That," as well as Maxwell Caulfield "Grease 2," "Empire Records," "The Real Blonde," and "Dynasty."

Keep your eyes on this company! MEIC`s interest in "Spike`s" based upon the LLC` s projections, could generate from $100,000 in profit at the low end with no U.S. theatrical release, to $600,000 in profit at the high-end with a U.S. theatrical release.

The stock closed yesterday at $0.05 a share.

In case you are not familiar with the company! Media International Concepts Inc. acquires and operates advertising, entertainment, educational programming and production companies. MEIC creates synergies by exploiting both traditional and emerging distribution channels. MEIC is being positioned to be on the leading edge of the industry by providing entertainment and information through fixed wireless broadband.

Stocks showing interesting activity yesterday were: iMERGENT, Inc. ( OTCBB:IMGG) up 4.4% on 246,700 shares traded, American Fire Retardant Corp. ( OTCBB:AFRT) down 7.4% on 243.2 million shares traded and TS&B Holdings Inc. ( OTCBB:TSBB) down 5% on 55 million shares traded.

Commentary: "The Labor Department claimed that only 4.633 jobs, or 2% of total layoffs, were moved overseas during the first quarter of 2004. Critics say these numbers are wrong, and only a fraction of the true number of jobs has been tabulated," Stated Sonja Rudd in Wall Street News Alert`s daily commentary continued at: http://www.***********************.

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Not sure what this has to do with TSBB?
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Az...Cats:
Not sure what this has to do with TSBB?

It shows us that TSBB was down 5% on 55 million shares traded. SO the stock is being manipulated ... duh! Other than that nothing
 


Posted by tstruck02 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Az...Cats:
Not sure what this has to do with TSBB?

Was just trying to be helpful. I don't post much and I saw this with the tsbb symbol and thought I'd share

T
 


Posted by bjay22 on :
 
That's not your fault - that's a little trick those companies (Subway and Wall Street) use by lumping all the highly traded companies together so that they get picked up by your news alerts.
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Im seeing a spike on the yahoo chart at about 1:50. Anyone know what thats all about?
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Nice bump up at the close.....looking like a green day tomorrow.
 
Posted by kbpkt on :
 
Just a bump, looks like someelse is starting another TSBB thread. Lets keep it all on one thread.
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Where did all the activity gooooo..........now volume is piddly

Bump.....ugh
 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
It's definitely a bad time for penny stocks today........but TSBB seems to be holding its own. I guess that's what happens when you compare a true company to alot of what ifs.
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Damn....we need sum shock paddles or sumthing to get this moving today!!!!!
 
Posted by fjean on :
 
SHGY have been running since monday
it was at 0.07 when I posted news on it

no I ask did anyone buy?

if you did, look at it today?

I'll bet you wish you bought more huh.

anyways, YOU GUYS NEED TO START READING THE OTHER POST ON THIS BOARD. JUST BECAUSE CMKX OR QBID AND IBZT HAVE THE MOST PAGES THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T READ NEWS ON SOMETHING ELSE.

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IN SUB-PENNY WE TRUST
 


Posted by Smctbone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fjean:
SHGY have been running since monday
it was at 0.07 when I posted news on it

no I ask did anyone buy?

if you did, look at it today?

I'll bet you wish you bought more huh.

anyways, YOU GUYS NEED TO START READING THE OTHER POST ON THIS BOARD. JUST BECAUSE CMKX OR QBID AND IBZT HAVE THE MOST PAGES THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T READ NEWS ON SOMETHING ELSE.


Dude stop posting that everywhere....most of us read many of the threads. And thanks for the tip on SHGY, but its volume is only 32,000 today...that's nothing we could play with.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
you'd think we died here or something, what's up with the volume?! 263,000 all morning, doesn't make sense.
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Bump......come on guys.....for sum reason outside of amazing finacials....this stock needs all our help......if people only knew......we should b at .04 cents....no brainer
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slowgothemo73:
Bump......come on guys.....for sum reason outside of amazing finacials....this stock needs all our help......if people only knew......we should b at .04 cents....no brainer

SECONDED!
 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
I am getting impatient with this .03-.05 cent WAIT. How much longer?
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:
I am getting impatient with this .03-.05 cent WAIT. How much longer?

Lack of patience and panic selling is exactly what the MM's want you to do to get their cheap shares. Beware! This is an obvious winner ... just takes time.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Hey Gman, how you doing?

quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
Lack of patience and panic selling is exactly what the MM's want you to do to get their cheap shares. Beware! This is an obvious winner ... just takes time.


 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Hey Gman, how you doing?


I'm doing alright. TSBB is boring me to death ... but I will not sell this one for less than 50% profit. PRIM as you can see is making me love life! I've got 1.2 mil @ .0017. Dumped my ITDJ for some nice profit and picked up CYOS this morning. How are you doing, will?

------------------
Gus
 


Posted by will on :
 
Pretty bored myself. Seems to be a flat day for me, maybe this afternoon will see some action. Wish TSBB would make a little run to that .01 area, like to sell and rebuy on the dip again.

quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
I'm doing alright. TSBB is boring me to death ... but I will not sell this one for less than 50% profit. PRIM as you can see is making me love life! I've got 1.2 mil @ .0017. Dumped my ITDJ for some nice profit and picked up CYOS this morning. How are you doing, will?



 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
I'm doing alright. TSBB is boring me to death ... but I will not sell this one for less than 50% profit. PRIM as you can see is making me love life! I've got 1.2 mil @ .0017. Dumped my ITDJ for some nice profit and picked up CYOS this morning. How are you doing, will?


Hey Gmoney
I second your opinion on TSBB - I am bored to death with it too!
What are your thoughts on PRIM - good time to get in?

 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:
Hey Gmoney
I second your opinion on TSBB - I am bored to death with it too!
What are your thoughts on PRIM - good time to get in?

I put my opinion of PRIM on the PRIM thread. Check it out ... yes it's a good moneymaker for some dough in the .002's. TSBB and PRIM are actually both good for some dough! So bake something up you two ... PAPA wants to EAT!!!
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Bump......
 
Posted by Spastic_Gramps on :
 
Whats the deal with the spread on this one? Nobody is gonna wanna trade it if it is that much.
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Spastic_Gramps:
Whats the deal with the spread on this one? Nobody is gonna wanna trade it if it is that much.

yea, it's been more than that too, just gotta wait it out I guess, join the party.

[This message has been edited by Nashdaq5 (edited June 16, 2004).]
 


Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
Be patient all. This thing will run fast. Be ready. Don't get discouraged at the current pps. hang in there. we will all be rewarded.


 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Pretty sure NITE is in deep with CMKX. Maybe if TSBB showed a bit of interest we would not have this problem. MM's control every bit of this stock. Its very sad! I bought at .0075 during the .01 run....OUCH for me. I'm a bit pissed off with these MM's and I'm sure you are to. Awesome Co. but no control. Arg!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BDUBS07:
Be patient all. This thing will run fast. Be ready. Don't get discouraged at the current pps. hang in there. we will all be rewarded.


I am waiting for the REWARD!


 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
Might be gapping up a little this morning
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Biggedy Bump!!!!!
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
seems like we haven't had any sustained green in forever. We get a little bump up on the open and WAM, down -.0002, never thought I would have been able to sell a week ago at .0065 and average down now. Need to wake up here, get some redbull TSBB
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
volume's up this AM
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Volumes way up this morning.....but still no upward movement......prob have more MM's on board now that they are fleeing CMKX.....
 
Posted by Spastic_Gramps on :
 
The spread is a lil better today. Volume is alot better. I'm gonna wait till volume looks like its picking up to average down. I would think that this is getting close to the bottom. A PR to update people would help a lot.
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
volume has been steady ... possibly accumuluating are the MM's (sorry I sound like Yoda)
 
Posted by FurrySound on :
 
Well, the bid just walked up to the ask... .0000 apart now... ask still at .0055 though... and now .0001 apart 54/55

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by Smctbone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by FurrySound:
Well, the bid just walked up to the ask... .0000 apart now... ask still at .0055 though... and now .0001 apart 54/55

finally!...it's nice to see that huge spread disappear
 


Posted by FurrySound on :
 
51/55 now...

------------------
FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by Smctbone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by FurrySound:
51/55 now...


DANGIT!...
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Bump....up....up.....and away!!!!!
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
Lets have a POLL here.... Who wants this DAMN thing to POP!
I sure as hell do - but hey patience is a virtue and we will all be rewarded in the end !
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
I see that TSBB is still doing great! It's just a matter of time!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
I want to see this thing pop, but I have never seen so much up and down movement in one day in one stock since I started trading.
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
should buy more ... but I can't and I'm gonna regret it
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
should buy more ... but I can't and I'm gonna regret it

same here, need more $
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
same here, need more $

such a common problem here ... LOL
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Bump....up....up.....and away!!!!!
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
I dont like this one bit.

 
Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
Nite's been holding it down! What's new?!
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
This really is stupid. I just don't get it. How can this stock be so low right now? The company has everything going for them and yet it keeps going lower. It pops then it's a slow death downwards til it pops again. It makes no sense!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
This stock really test my patience. It really does.
This things weighing down my portfolio, maybe ill average down, but maybe not.

I think TFCT is a much better deal right now.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Looks like the MM's are doing to drive this one on down to .004 again!
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
I'd love to hop into TFCT, I'm in TSBB big though, and will not sell any for a loss. Think I'm gonna wire some money in from the bank account and average down. MMs can't keep this baby down forever.
 
Posted by Maelien on :
 
I do have the cash to buy more but haven't been totally convinced the stock will really hit .03-.05 as the company says it's worth.
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Looks like 4's are imminent.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Maelien:
I do have the cash to buy more but haven't been totally convinced the stock will really hit .03-.05 as the company says it's worth.

Well I wouldn't buy it either just because the company says it worth .03-.05!


 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
I know this is a great company with great potential, and yes they should be in the .03 cent range, however, can't exactly say they're helping our situation much right now with not releasing any PR whatsoever lately. With all the businesses they've got their hands in you'd think we'd be in for some updates atleast once or twice a week.
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
MM's really toying with us ... hold strong
 
Posted by Breezer on :
 
this stock frustrates the hell out of me

I am still holding - but my value is tanking
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
all just emotions ... trust your DD ... leave the emotions at home and realize why you originally bought in. This is a multi bagger.
 
Posted by Malloy on :
 
I agree. We should all write to their investors relations people and tell them to update more frequently.

Malloy

quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
I know this is a great company with great potential, and yes they should be in the .03 cent range, however, can't exactly say they're helping our situation much right now with not releasing any PR whatsoever lately. With all the businesses they've got their hands in you'd think we'd be in for some updates atleast once or twice a week.


 


Posted by will on :
 
I'm gonna hang with ya, Gman - good luck!

quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
all just emotions ... trust your DD ... leave the emotions at home and realize why you originally bought in. This is a multi bagger.


 


Posted by Malloy on :
 
James E. Jenkins - CEO, jjenkins@tsbfinancial.com
 
Posted by Malloy on :
 
For more information contact info@tsbfinancial.com or call 407.649.8325


 


Posted by Malloy on :
 
And the last PR person

CONTACT: Honeycutt Capital Group, LLC
(918) 392-0336 Honeycuttcapital@hotmail.com
 


Posted by Malloy on :
 
...and add in your email that the web site is horrible and it was last updated in October 2003...not very serious!

All the last PR are not even there.
 


Posted by Malloy on :
 
I'll do the update for free if they need help :-)

Malloy
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
Very great point Malloy ...

Everyone: If you value your money and investments, take a couple minutes and the e-mail the addresses listed requesting more info. The influx of e-mails will alone probably act as a catalyst for a PR.

Will ... I've been watching ya on the "bottom's" thread! Great work. Hope you're pulling the trigger, you've picked some good gainers.
 


Posted by will on :
 
Thanks Gman, missed CORR, but I am not frustrated, it only supports the concept of bottom shopping. I did manage PCCL. Watch the ass will fall out of that one LOL.
It's all good, there will be more, I am not disappointed.
OOPS! Btw, I can't take credit for any of those, rickpic has done most of the work.


quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
Very great point Malloy ...

Everyone: If you value your money and investments, take a couple minutes and the e-mail the addresses listed requesting more info. The influx of e-mails will alone probably act as a catalyst for a PR.

Will ... I've been watching ya on the "bottom's" thread! Great work. Hope you're pulling the trigger, you've picked some good gainers.


[This message has been edited by will (edited June 17, 2004).]
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
just e-mailed CEO Jenkins, hopefully I'll get a response, and yea, the website does suck Malloy, I told him he should make it at least a little more informative for us investors if anything.
 
Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
just e-mailed CEO Jenkins, hopefully I'll get a response, and yea, the website does suck Malloy, I told him he should make it at least a little more informative for us investors if anything.

I just sent an email also.
 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:
I just sent an email also.

I utilize a "read Receipt" -and at least old Jim Jenkins is in his office reading mail. He read mine at 2:52 Eastern time.
 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
This isn't looking good today and setting up to be worst tomorrow. I really hope I'm wrong. Perspective anyone???
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
***Major News is on the way***

The MM's know it, that's why they have been accumulating all afternoon and knocking this down! Take it for what it's worth. <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wilthethrill:
This isn't looking good today and setting up to be worst tomorrow. I really hope I'm wrong. Perspective anyone???

I agree with you but the thing about this stock is... IT IS in a downward trend however when it runs it runs, so unfortunately yea its prob making your portfolio look HORRIBLE, but I think in the ened, it'all all work out, its been held down for A LONG time and everyone here wants it to break loose. It will.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wilthethrill:
This isn't looking good today and setting up to be worst tomorrow. I really hope I'm wrong. Perspective anyone???

I like that, every other time that someone has mentioned we're setting up for a run tomorrow the PPS drops. Now we've got someone saying we're setting up for a bad day! It's reverse psychology with these MMs from what I've seen. So I like the fact we're setting up for a bad day, nothing else has worked yet! yea, JMO
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
just got an e-mail back from CEO Jenkins...


Mike, thanks for your input. We are working on Corp awareness and will be issuing more press releases. We are also in the process of creating a new website for TS&B Holdings, the one you are viewing was for a subsidiary TS&B Financial Services which is outdated. In the new website we will have a section on our current holdings as well as updates for our investors. Thank you for your support and concern.

Sincerely;
James Jenkins, CEo

****
Sounds good to me.
 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Corp awareness??
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wilthethrill:
Corp awareness??

I asked if they were planning on at least updating us as to where they were with some other areas of the company, i.e race track, gaming industry, sports merchandise. All we've really heard about lately is record release. I'm assuming that's what he meant by corporate awareness
 


Posted by vtcpa04 on :
 
TSBB has very impressive fundamentals. Anyone know of any other profitable company trading under a penny?
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
This is a little interesting, probably means nothing, but it's interesting:

The website www.tsbfinancial.com is registered under the name of Scott Neils who has an email address of sneils@tsbholdings.com. Tsbholdings.com does not have a web page up yet. However, tsbholdings is registered under the name of KMA Capital Partners, LTD. which does have a website http://www.kmapartners.com

I wonder if there is any link between the two companys.

Also, tsbholdings.com was just registered back on May 6, 2004.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman

[This message has been edited by platapuss (edited June 17, 2004).]
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:

Also, tsbholdings.com was just registered back on May 6, 2004.



that makes sense, in the e-mail I got from Jenkins today he said they're currently making a new website, in my post above.

 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
I have emailed Mr. Jenkins the following. I am not the best writer but I think I somewhat got my point across. I also sent an email to the SEC regarding this stock. If you have some free time please do the same in your own thoughts. Thanks guys, Cats

First off, I have several thousands of dollars invested in your Co.. I have invested in your Co. because you have something worth investing in. Unfortunately I have seen nothing but the stock value go down and down. I have watched these MM's bring the PPS down to .005. This Co. is well worth .03-.05 at least. I have seen the financials and they are outstanding. Until something is done about these Market manipulators, The stock value will continue to fall till its at .0001 and that is scary fo all of us invested. The SEC must be notified to keep an eye on this Co. and how it is being brought down. There is no reason for it to be falling like this. I have trust in your Co. and believe you and your staff are doing an excellent job. I am speaking for hundreds if not thousands of investors. Thank you for your time and I hope to hear from you soon. Lets get this thing up and going. Shannon Closson
 


Posted by vtcpa04 on :
 
Az...Cats, I thought that was a great e-mail and don't sell yourself short, you definitely got your point across and you are an excellent writer. Thanks for the info.

GLTA

 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Lets see sum green today!!!!!!
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slowgothemo73:
Lets see sum green today!!!!!!

Indeed.
 


Posted by tntrader on :
 
Please
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Nada....f*ckin zippity doo da
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
What's up with TSBB this morning? Is it stuck?

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Smctbone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
What's up with TSBB this morning? Is it stuck?

Should I buy 100 shares at .0065 just to get this thing going again?

Seriously, what's up?
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
who would have thought our first numbers of the day would be red...wonderful
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
What's up with TSBB this morning? Is it stuck?


Nothing wrong, just more people selling. What IDIOTS!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
looking at the chart for CORR for the past 2 days, that's exactly what TSBB should and will do!...hopefully. Started it's run at .005, up to .012 so far today.
 
Posted by vtcpa04 on :
 
I love this company! I am thinking seriously about jumping in. I remember reading something about an upcoming PR. Anyone have any info on that (when and what). Thats all I think it'll take to send this one flying because fundamentals don't get much better for pennies, let alone subpennies.
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Good mornin' fellas....hoping for a greener day today....predictions anyone??
 
Posted by vtcpa04 on :
 
If this goes to .004, I'm definitely in. Looks like shorting and mm games are keeping this one at bay for now. IMHO
 
Posted by FurrySound on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wilthethrill:
Good mornin' fellas....hoping for a greener day today....predictions anyone??

If after every buy, there weren't like 3 sells, I'm sure we'd see green...

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vtcpa04:
If this goes to .004, I'm definitely in. Looks like shorting and mm games are keeping this one at bay for now. IMHO


Is there anything that can be done about MM's? Or are we just at their mercy?

 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:

Is there anything that can be done about MM's? Or are we just at their mercy?


Not that I know of, it seems to me the more we whine about the MMs the worse the stock performs...which makes me wonder what would be stopping the MM's from reading message boards like this and toying with us by reading our very thoughts about what these stocks should and will do. So maybe what we need to do is hold off on posting for TSBB for a week and they'll think we all gave up on it! Then again, if they do read this post, then they'll know our plan...so that strategy is shot down right there! haha, oh well

 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
We have a pulse.

Level 2 anyone??
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:

Is there anything that can be done about MM's? Or are we just at their mercy?


Granted, MM's are able to manipulate the price of the stock, but they are not responsible for everything. Supply and demand do play a key part here. If ppl are buying stock then the price is going to rise, if ppl are selling stock, the price will drop. Simple as that.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by FurrySound on :
 
ask just got moved to 59 .. something new for the day bid moved to 54 ..

L2's anyone? please and thank you.

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
bid/ask up simultaneously!?
 
Posted by FurrySound on :
 
Someone put in an order for .006 to get this thing moving.. lol

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Something must be coming out next week. Nice trend.
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
bid .0054
ask .0058


 


Posted by FurrySound on :
 
Ask dropped but the bid stayed... 'testing' the buying waters maybe?

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
bid/ask up simultaneously!?

Hey as long as it has the word UP in it, Im ok with it
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
.0058
 
Posted by FurrySound on :
 
.0059

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
man would some good PR be awesome right about now, help kick in some volume
 
Posted by FurrySound on :
 
56/59 now... yes, PR would be good.

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Volume always seems to slow in the late afternoon.......hmmmmm. I'm thinking early next week would be the time for some news to come out, if not we are back to where we don't want to be.
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
well, according to the CEO in his e-mail he sent me yesterday news is on the way...who knows when that means though
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Anyone seen this.....
http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&board=1600905269&tid=ecgi&sid=1600905269&mid=72642


 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wilthethrill:
Anyone seen this.....
http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&board=1600905269 &tid=ecgi&sid=1600905269&mid=72642


WOW!!!

 


Posted by tntrader on :
 
The casino?

Humm, that has been known about since March guys. It isn't new at all.

Just a friendly heads up
 


Posted by nutrader on :
 
If everyone would ban together and NOT SELL until this stock went above .014 or somewhere near there, this would break the resistance and this stock might go up where it belongs. As long as WE take a 10% profit and don't fight back it wont' go anywhere. The other boards are just as frustrated as we are on this one. Raging Bull is sending emails to the co. I don't know if this will do it or not. Until we stop taking a piddly small profit it will stay as it. IMO
 
Posted by MOSES2 on :
 
so you can bail on us at .013, Nut raider? Don't tell me where I should place my sell limits at, okay?

[This message has been edited by MOSES2 (edited June 20, 2004).]
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
such hostility Nice to know that other boards are thinking the same way we are, though. A handful of us, including myself, sent e-mails to the CEO the other day also, read back a few posts and you'll see his response. Haven't had any significant news lately, CEO says it's coming, so hang on guys.
 
Posted by nutrader on :
 
I am a newbee and I know I am not as smart as the seasoned traders on this board. My 1,000,000. shares are set to sell at .02 GTC. If it takes 2 months I will wait. Sorry if I offended anyone. Just trying to break the resistance point.
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by nutrader:
If everyone would ban together and NOT SELL until this stock went above .014 or somewhere near there, this would break the resistance and this stock might go up where it belongs. As long as WE take a 10% profit and don't fight back it wont' go anywhere. The other boards are just as frustrated as we are on this one. Raging Bull is sending emails to the co. I don't know if this will do it or not. Until we stop taking a piddly small profit it will stay as it. IMO

I have sent 3 emails to this Company's CEO and no response. Makes me wonder if they give a sh.. Would not hurt to send them your words though. great Co. Its just Manipulated a bit by the Makers. If it went above .014 that would be a 300% profit for me, Not sure what you bought this stock at.
 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by nutrader:
I am a newbee and I know I am not as smart as the seasoned traders on this board. My 1,000,000. shares are set to sell at .02 GTC. If it takes 2 months I will wait. Sorry if I offended anyone. Just trying to break the resistance point.

1,000,000 shares That's about $5700.00 as we speek. Rather large investment for a newbie and it down. Your full of it!!!
 


Posted by cabbage22 on :
 
The CEO is a nice guy, and always responds to my emails. They will be switching to busniesswire very soon so they can communicate with a broader range of investors.

I've been in TSBB for quite a while now, each dip I add to my position, now Im actually starting to average UP!

Be patient and wait for CASINO news
 


Posted by nutrader on :
 
I bought at 0.005
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Booty Quest:
Wow .009!!! Thanks again, Earth Shaker!

May 24th it ran. Almost .01
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Az...Cats:
I have sent 3 emails to this Company's CEO and no response. Makes me wonder if they give a sh..

sent an e-mail last thursday, got a reply that day, guess he doesn't like you



 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Good mornin' fellas.........have a feeling this will be a good day....horoscope said so. haha!
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
sent an e-mail last thursday, got a reply that day, guess he doesn't like you


I guess not!
 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wilthethrill:
Good mornin' fellas.........have a feeling this will be a good day....horoscope said so. haha!

Hope you are right! Already flying!!!
(okay - I may be exaggerating - but it is up .0002! That's 3.5% up! I am just so happy it is green!)
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Article on Glenn Cummings.
http://www.countrystarsonline.com/

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Good article, but I think we are going to need some acquisition news to push us to some new highs.........the casino acquisition would be nice.
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
.0058 bid
.0059 ask

getting set to move?
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
This article says July 1st his single will be aired on radio stations...
http://www.angrycountry.com/stories/press-releases/0444.html
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Looks like MM's are having a hard time getting any shares. Keep having to raise the bid when no one will sell at .0056
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
My advice to current TSBB holders .... Don't sell now -- the best is yet to come. MM's are scrambling for shares and not filling orders fast at the ask. I put in an order and it wasn't filled for 5 min so I withdrew. This is going ... soon!!! IMHO
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
The same thing happened to me with GZFX this morning, but the order was filled like 10 min after placing the order @ .127. I placed in order and immediately the ask bumped to .129, so I withdrew and replaced once the ask dropped and it filled quickly.

P.S. -- if ya like shorted stocks with a lot of potential, get in GZFX! But let's not get off topic, TSBB is worth way more than this.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
level 2's moving
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
The MM's are giving in .006 now.
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
bid .0058
ask .0061

Which one will win?
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
This news the CEO says is coming better be getting better and better for each day it's not released...
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
.0058 bid
.0065 ask

MM's are trying their darnest.
 


Posted by Spinoff on :
 
Amen ta that bruthah'. I bought this the day after the last PR, and now I'm beginning ta think they know I've invested with them so they are holding out on the PR's...ha. I just hate it when stuff like this happens COMON TSBB!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
This news the CEO says is coming better be getting better and better for each day it's not released...


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Looking good. I like the slow and easy move towards the .01 mark. Soon enough it will be .10 and beyond...TSBB to the moon!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
.0065 won WOO
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Is today the day.......PR.....PR......PR
 
Posted by Anna on :
 
Hope so. Maybe if we all chant together, PR......PR......PR......PR
 
Posted by keithsan on :
 
ORLANDO, Fla., June 22, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (OTCBB:TSBB) shareholder update from Glenn Cummings recent appearance at CMA Music Festival (Fan Fair) in Nashville June 10th to 12th. Glenn Cummings proved at this year's CMA Music Festival he has what it takes to be a star. From interviews with radio and print publications, to signing autographs for fans, to debuting his single "Big" on a mobile jumbotron on Commerce St. next to the Nashville Convention Center, Glenn covered his bases! Glenn signed autographs at the Country Music Today Magazine booth and at the booth for Y'all--The Magazine for Southern People, where, in total, he signed over 1,200 pictures. Glenn had such a long line at the Y'all booth on Wednesday and Thursday the magazine representatives asked him to come back Friday to spend as much time as he wanted signing and posing for pictures with fans. "It was shocking! Here's a guy who had not released his first song to radio yet; nobody knew who he was. Yet his mystique, personality, charisma, (and stature) intrigued Country music fans enough for them to stand in line for over an hour just for the opportunity to meet this future star," commented Keith Sisson, Vice-President for Y'all Magazine. In addition to meeting with fans, Glenn took part in an acoustic jam at Joe's Crab Shack to benefit the Vernon Manor Children's Home. Since Glenn's appearance at CMA Music Festival the hits to his website: (www.gccountry.com) have tripled daily. Glenn's debut single, "Big", will now be on radio on July 15 and look for his album, by the same title, in stores this Fall. Also, Cheryl Harvey-Hill of ABC Radio Coast-to-Coast and CountryStarsOnline.com interviewed Glenn and wrote a great article. Shareholders and readers are invited to visit: (http://www.countrystarsonline.com/FanFairFeatures/GlennCummings.htm). The CEO of TS&B Holdings, Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "We're very excited about the reception Glenn received from the fans at this year's CMA Music Festival (Fan Fair) in Nashville. Without a record on the shelf fans flocked to have Glenn sign pictures as well as have their pictures taken with him. The Company looks forward to Glenn's new single debut in July and the album release in late September being a huge success.
 
Posted by Anna on :
 
Hey it worked !!!!
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Anna:
Hey it worked !!!!

Lets try a new one.... .01 .01 .01 .01......
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
lol, good job with the chanting...
 
Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
.01...01....01!
quote:
Originally posted by Meshoe45:
Lets try a new one.... .01 .01 .01 .01......


 


Posted by Anna on :
 
01.....01.......01.....01
 
Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
L2's anyone? Thanks!
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
Bid
1 @ .0061
1 @ .0058
1 @ .0057
1 @ .0052
5 @ .005

Ask

4 @ .0065
3 @ .007
2 @ .0075
1 @ .008
1 @ .009
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Meshoe45:
Bid
1 @ .0061
1 @ .0058
1 @ .0057
1 @ .0052
5 @ .005

Ask

4 @ .0065
3 @ .007
2 @ .0075
1 @ .008
1 @ .009


stacked aren't they ... LOL!

 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
.01... .01... .01...

11 MM's....not to shabby....shows interest....but PR is sh*tty.....and full of Fluff......

Last PR stated July 1st for single release on the radio.....nicely pushed back....hmmm

 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
at least they released something...but yea, nothing effecting financials, not too surprised PPS didn't respond to the PR positively.
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Bump.....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slowgothemo73:
Bump.....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

MM's need their cheap shares, but it's probably getting tough. IMHO we are filtering out the 10% gainers who daytraded TSBB but aren't going for the ride

 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
I'm not impressed with the PR either, just a bunch of fluff. I hate country music, I bought in because of the casino interests, but it looks like I'm about to buy my first country CD.
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
something else to note...not even half way through the day and we've already had more volume than all day yesterday...so atleast the PR helped to stir things up
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
no manipulation there right? LOL they're doing their last accumulation IMHO
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
no manipulation there right? LOL they're doing their last accumulation IMHO

I'm going to have to agree...like the past few weeks with this stock's performance, things aren't adding up...random 5,000 share orders that pop up on a regular basis, 3 last 20 minutes...$27.50? Anyone know what these would be for?
 


Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
Boy...this company is taking its sweet time reaching the 0.01 barrier. I wish it would get there already within the next two weeks. Has anyone else heard anything about their gaming venture?
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
anyone else here use Ameritrade's last sale chart? If so, each sale's background corresponds to the price it was executed at, and some have the red border (sell I assume), and other's green border (buy I'd assume) and the rest don't have any border...what are those trades? And why did one for 3.5 mil just go through and PPS wasn't even affected one bit?
 
Posted by kevinscott on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
anyone else here use Ameritrade's last sale chart? If so, each sale's background corresponds to the price it was executed at, and some have the red border (sell I assume), and other's green border (buy I'd assume) and the rest don't have any border...what are those trades? And why did one for 3.5 mil just go through and PPS wasn't even affected one bit?

the red is when the price dropped, the green price went up -- when background color that mean the price stayed at the last price - either up-green or down-red..


 


Posted by FurrySound on :
 
If a buy/sell happens between the bid/ask, and the MM's not changing the bid/ask, then it won't have a red/green box/check/tic around it.

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
ahh, I see, so why wouldn't a 3.5 mil order at .0055 change the bid or ask? That's more than what's been traded in the past hour almost...
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
NITE's bumping up his bid ... but he's sitting on the ask @ .0061
 
Posted by FurrySound on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
ahh, I see, so why wouldn't a 3.5 mil order at .0055 change the bid or ask? That's more than what's been traded in the past hour almost...

It's up to the MM's to move the bid/ask, if they can and want to, they can hold the price stable even when we think it should be moving, hence sometimes you might catch a 100 share buy order go through and suddenly it's a run of 20, 30, 40%, and yet a huge order doesn't do anything.

------------------
FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by FurrySound:
It's up to the MM's to move the bid/ask, if they can and want to, they can hold the price stable even when we think it should be moving, hence sometimes you might catch a 100 share buy order go through and suddenly it's a run of 20, 30, 40%, and yet a huge order doesn't do anything.


ok, got it, thanks Furry, doesn't make any sense though that they would be able to do something like that...you'd think there'd be a set of guidelines they'd have to follow in determining the PPS not just their own random decisions. Oh well, nothing's perfect


 


Posted by FurrySound on :
 
Well... it's not totally random They do have guidelines, but as most anyone will tell you, including the MM's, they are just that, guidelines, not set in stone. And sometimes even those set in stone appear to be in still quicksand and not actual rock

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Bump.....
 
Posted by tntrader on :
 
LOL

Well, I was out yesterday and I see we had a positive pr and negative pps movement.

Sigh...

In time it simply has to pop though...
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
Everyone ready for another dissapointing day with TSBB? (trying the reverse psychology approach now)
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
Everyone ready for another dissapointing day with TSBB? (trying the reverse psychology approach now)

LOL yea lets see how low it can go
 


Posted by FurrySound on :
 
But the MM's now know you are trying reverse psychology

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
This stock sucks! I hope no one buys this crap! Stay ways from it, it's going nowhere.

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
This stock sucks! I hope no one buys this crap! Stay ways from it, it's going nowhere.


I thought the CEO said this was to be trading in the .03-.05 range. I think he may have meant .003 -.005 range.
 


Posted by Smctbone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:
I thought the CEO said this was to be trading in the .03-.05 range. I think he may have meant .003 -.005 range.

I definitely see a new year low coming VERY soon!
 


Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
I am almost there with you...I'm starting to get somewhat frustrated as well. I just hope it gets a bump to at least at .0075 so I can sell and cut my losses. Unless I see some great pr I won't be holding long as I previously stated.
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
This stock sucks! I hope no one buys this crap! Stay ways from it, it's going nowhere.



 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Sell! Sell! Sell! Oh, wait a second, I don't have to tell any one to sell, beacause they are already selling and the MM's love it!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CuriousBull:
I am almost there with you...I'm starting to get somewhat frustrated as well. I just hope it gets a bump to at least at .0075 so I can sell and cut my losses. Unless I see some great pr I won't be holding long as I previously stated.

This is not the kind of posts we need people. Do DD ... doin't bash your own portfolio. Don't forget the reason you purchased
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CuriousBull:
I am almost there with you...I'm starting to get somewhat frustrated as well. I just hope it gets a bump to at least at .0075 so I can sell and cut my losses. Unless I see some great pr I won't be holding long as I previously stated.


Unfortunately I'm sure you're in the same boat as a lot of people holding TSBB, frustrated, trying to get out first opportunity, which is no good for those of us intending on holding until we break through .01 and up. I guess all we're really waiting for now is that one great PR. Like every other investor with every other stock.
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:

Unfortunately I'm sure you're in the same boat as a lot of people holding TSBB, frustrated, trying to get out first opportunity, which is no good for those of us intending on holding until we break through .01 and up. I guess all we're really waiting for now is that one great PR. Like every other investor with every other stock.


NITE drops his ask 1 or 2 more times ... I'm gonna be the one scrambling for shares

 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
Come to think of it ... it's pretty rediculous that there is negative talk right now when there was an accumulation by the MM's yesterday around 2:00
 
Posted by FurrySound on :
 
Maybe we need to use one of TFCT's Sea Patches as was just used on PCCL

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Sell! Sell! Sell! Oh, wait a second, I don't have to tell any one to sell, beacause they are already selling and the MM's love it!


OK...I feel better now. I got my frustration out! Buy people buy! This is an awesome company...do your DD to find out why. The quarter is fixing to be over with and they are going to release some awesome numbers again just as the CEO already stated. I will be buying some more as soon as I get some more funds. I wish I had the insight to have sold when it hit .01 because then I would have just doubled up. This is a no brainer...the company is awesome...a profitable company under a .01, give me a beaak...this is going to fly! TSBB to the Mooooon...whooohooooooo!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
Come to think of it ... it's pretty rediculous that there is negative talk right now when there was an accumulation by the MM's yesterday around 2:00

how can you tell when MM's are accumulating? Just by watching L2's and last sales and whatnot?
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
how can you tell when MM's are accumulating? Just by watching L2's and last sales and whatnot?

basically ... a couple other components. One of those things ya gotta watch for. They usually (most always) come in large spurts of volume.

 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
Lots of support ... 9 MM's @ .005
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:
basically ... a couple other components. One of those things ya gotta watch for. They usually (most always) come in large spurts of volume.

So if they were accumulating yesterday, and .0054 was the lowest I saw a trade go through at, why does it make any sense that they're dropping it more today?
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
What I would like to know is what do those small trades signify. The 1000 and 5000 trade blocks are the most common. Are they signals or something. Because I just don't believe that someone is buying that small of amount.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
What I would like to know is what do those small trades signify. The 1000 and 5000 trade blocks are the most common. Are they signals or something. Because I just don't believe that someone is buying that small of amount.


YES! Those are MM signals to each other on which direction to manipulate the price. Think about it ... who's trading 5000 shares of TSBB -- $27.50? Do the math.

 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
What I would like to know is what do those small trades signify. The 1000 and 5000 trade blocks are the most common. Are they signals or something. Because I just don't believe that someone is buying that small of amount.



Yesterday I watched 4 of those go through in 5,000 share blocks within 20 minutes. At .0055 that's $27.50, barely covers commission. Maybe it's how the MMs pay each other for lunch...


 


Posted by needtoretire on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
What I would like to know is what do those small trades signify. The 1000 and 5000 trade blocks are the most common. Are they signals or something. Because I just don't believe that someone is buying that small of amount.


I agree , noone would buy $26.00 of stock with a 7-10 dollar trade comm. This is something else in the works!

 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
The spread on the bid and ask on this stock is bothersome. As of right now it is 7/100's of a cent, which is a lot for a sub-penny stock with over 12 million in volume.
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
The spread on the bid and ask on this stock is bothersome. As of right now it is 7/100's of a cent, which is a lot for a sub-penny stock with over 12 million in volume.

Yup, and thats why I think the bid should go up
 


Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
I had started another thread which contains a few good posts about everyone's opinion and there thoughts of where the stock should be at. Rather than looking through 20+ pages to find a few good posts and the rest nothing but garbage and crying. I am also reading into all the charts and have e-mailed people daily the last few days as well as a few phone calls. I have recieved a call back already this morning from honeycutt and yet everyone is downgrading me and criticizing the work that I am doing in trying to keep everyone positive about a good stock, even though we have to wait for results.

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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sgt. of ARMS:
I had started another thread which contains a few good posts about everyone's opinion and there thoughts of where the stock should be at. Rather than looking through 20+ pages to find a few good posts and the rest nothing but garbage and crying. I am also reading into all the charts and have e-mailed people daily the last few days as well as a few phone calls. I have recieved a call back already this morning from honeycutt and yet everyone is downgrading me and criticizing the work that I am doing in trying to keep everyone positive about a good stock, even though we have to wait for results.


Not everyone is criticizing you Sgt. -- I would love to here your work and greatly appreciate any DD you can provide. Please post.
 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
The lack of action here are putting some people in a bad mood I think. Chill out folks.......smoke 'em if you got 'em!!!
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sgt. of ARMS:
I had started another thread which contains a few good posts about everyone's opinion and there thoughts of where the stock should be at. Rather than looking through 20+ pages to find a few good posts and the rest nothing but garbage and crying. I am also reading into all the charts and have e-mailed people daily the last few days as well as a few phone calls. I have recieved a call back already this morning from honeycutt and yet everyone is downgrading me and criticizing the work that I am doing in trying to keep everyone positive about a good stock, even though we have to wait for results.



can you fill us in on what Honeycutt had to say?

 


Posted by vtcpa04 on :
 
I don't blame longs for being frustrated. This is the only profitable company trading under a penny that I could find.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
Facts are Facts!

"The 10Q showed a 511% increase in total assets over the same quarter in 2003 and a 705% increase compared to the Company's year-end of June 30, 2003"

"Shareholders can look forward to continued profitable operations as the Company continues to execute its business plan as a Business Development Company."

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sgt. of ARMS:
I had started another thread which contains a few good posts about everyone's opinion and there thoughts of where the stock should be at. Rather than looking through 20+ pages to find a few good posts and the rest nothing but garbage and crying. I am also reading into all the charts and have e-mailed people daily the last few days as well as a few phone calls. I have recieved a call back already this morning from honeycutt and yet everyone is downgrading me and criticizing the work that I am doing in trying to keep everyone positive about a good stock, even though we have to wait for results.


Chart analyzing, phone calls to Honeycutt and e-mail responses are real DD and appreciated, however, I have not seen you post any of that which is why I criticized your other thread. Speaking for myself, I hate it when the same stock has more than one thread. Unless someone just likes to see their name on Allstocks as the originator of a thread, why start a new one? It just complicates things. If you have real DD like you say, post it. I, as well as everyone else would appreciate it, but stop trying to get people to beg you to do it. As far as taking yours and your sons post out of context, how are we suppose to know who is posting if your both using the same name? If this is the case, and your not contradicting yourself, then you'll understand why myself and others are a bit confused. I would recommend being more clear in your post, or have your son get his own name to post. Yesterday you stated your son replied under your name, and today you are saying that it was you speaking on his behalf. I'm not trying to start some pi$$ing contest. Just try to be more consistent and clear with your posts to avoid confusion. Either way, we're on the same side. We both want TSBB to rocket to new highs.
 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
Bump
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Bought another 150,000 shares today at .0052....run to come soon.
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
I'd buy more if I had more $$. Sgt. of ARMS has a nice post about his phone call with Honeycutt on the other thread. They were having a meeting with TSBB yesterday afternoon, and are supposed to call him back to fill him in on what was discussed.
 
Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
This was posted by dardog which I found to be very interesting. The link will give you an answer to your question... http://www.internetplays.com/education/marketmaker.php
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
What I would like to know is what do those small trades signify. The 1000 and 5000 trade blocks are the most common. Are they signals or something. Because I just don't believe that someone is buying that small of amount.



 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CuriousBull:
This was posted by dardog which I found to be very interesting. The link will give you an answer to your question... http://www.internetplays.com/education/marketmaker.php

great post

 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
I kinda hope that this stays at this price for a little while longer so I can pick up some more cheap shares. I just need to get some more cash.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
I kinda hope that this stays at this price for a little while longer so I can pick up some more cheap shares. I just need to get some more cash.


I missed it @ .0052 and am gonna try and get some funds together to put in an order.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CuriousBull:
This was posted by dardog which I found to be very interesting. The link will give you an answer to your question... http://www.internetplays.com/education/marketmaker.php


great post, I like the last sentance,
"If the Company has solid fundementals and a bright future. Then the stock will do very well. And the activity that caused the situation will prove to even help the future stock activity because it created an audience."

Most of what the article says seems to be exactly what TSBB has been doing recently, MM's slowly walking it down after runs and such.

 


Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
I had recieved a call yesterday afternoon from MR. LARSON who is in the honeycutt office and is charge og the tsbb section. He thanked me for calling and said that he was going to meet with tsbb board later that day to discuss a few items. He said he felt very positive about the outlook of tsbb's future. He also stated that at this time he could not tell me anything positve to post for the investor's( I had told him about the allstock's board and that the investors were getting panicky because of no news to help the price move). He did say that he would call me back tomorrow sometime (today) to let me know about the meeting and if any thing positive comes from the meeting. He said to hold on till after the release of the cummings recording sales and then to hold strong because good things are about to happen soon with the company and it's venture into other matter's. I am sitting by phone waiting and if no call from him, I will call him back and will post what is said. This stock will move and I am on the track of good fortune with it.

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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Nice work Sarge!
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Ok....who got in a .0051???? Nice!!
 
Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
me with 176K
quote:
Originally posted by wilthethrill:
Ok....who got in a .0051???? Nice!!


 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Damn it....was hoping to get the lowest today. Good pickup!
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wilthethrill:
Damn it....was hoping to get the lowest today. Good pickup!

You have another chance. There levels are so low.
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
Bid @ .0046

Ehhh
Why dont it just got to .046
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Meshoe45:
Bid @ .0046

Ehhh
Why dont it just got to .046


7 MM's dropped their bids @ .005 with less than a million shares traded. Explain it to me how that is not intentional (and by the way ask hasn't dropped) ... like I'm a 6 year old.

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Gus
 


Posted by gphs98 on :
 
any chance someone can sell some shares here at .0046 so i can get in?
thanx
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
My chart says .005 bid and .006 ask....where are you guys getting .0046?? If it's .0046 I will be definitely be buying more. No worries here........only penny I know that actually turns over a profit and a nice one at that.
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wilthethrill:
My chart says .005 bid and .006 ask....where are you guys getting .0046?? If it's .0046 I will be definitely be buying more. No worries here........only penny I know that actually turns over a profit and a nice one at that.


Are you using real time?

 


Posted by FurrySound on :
 
I see 46/55 right now...

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
http://www.nathanmichaud.com/TSBB.JPG

L2's
 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Yup, using real time.......I work for an investment firm in a bank and I'm using their internal system.....that's not good. I'll take your word for it and put a bid in at .0046....I'll let you guys know what happens.
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
yea, we're definitely down to .0046, hence my portfolio dropping another couple hundred dollars.
 
Posted by Spastic_Gramps on :
 
Just saw two 1000 trades go by. Thats a whopping $4.80. The spread is .0046/.0055. Isn't that a little ridiculous for a subpenny. I'm not one to blame the MM's when a trade goes against me, but this is retarded.
 
Posted by Breezer on :
 
Okay - I know we were not going UP- BUT - I go have lunch and come back to this? What is up (OR should I say DOWN) with this stock???
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
Okay.....who's hogging the low shares. Share the wealth!
 
Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Earth_Shaker:
NEWS just out. This stock is way undervalued. BUT I KNEW THIS. trading now at .006 I bought it yesterday at .004

NEWS states that this stock has been severely SHORTED. And that it should be valued at about .05

Thats a 9 BAGGER people.


Can we still hope for a 9 bagger?
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wilthethrill:
Yup, using real time.......I work for an investment firm in a bank and I'm using their internal system.....that's not good. I'll take your word for it and put a bid in at .0046....I'll let you guys know what happens.


Well thats the bid, the ask is still at .0055 probably will not get filled unless you are lucky.

 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
We all know the current PPS is way undervalued, anyone who's done their DD knows that. Obviously the only reason for stupid stuff like this happening is due completely to MM's, someone just reassure me that we are going to head back above .0065 within the next week or so. Lie to me if you're not sure, cuz I'm starting to get cold feet based solely on MM's.
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
yea, we're definitely down to .0046, hence my portfolio dropping another couple hundred dollars.

Now its back up
BOUNCING between bid and ask.
 


Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
Got in for 400,000 shares today at .0051.


 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
lol, 1000 share trade goes through and we pop back to .0055, nothing makes any sense anymore
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
We all know the current PPS is way undervalued, anyone who's done their DD knows that. Obviously the only reason for stupid stuff like this happening is due completely to MM's, someone just reassure me that we are going to head back above .0065 within the next week or so. Lie to me if you're not sure, cuz I'm starting to get cold feet based solely on MM's.


To be perfectly honest if you've got cold feet you shouldn't have put the money into TSBB in the first place. I've been posting many things about the MM's today, and I'm holding and trying to buy more if the ask drops to .005 or below.

 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
I give up, back down again, wake me up when we get some momentum...upward momentum
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
Ya'll hang in there. I would be loading up in this stock right now. If your looking for a quick profit, I see it at .0065 again soon. Probably sometime next week. If your looking for long term returns this is a very good sub penny stock to be in because we will have a big run in the months to come. Check out the history of this stock. This is a very safe investment.
Hang in there and hold your shares and the mm's have nothing to do but raise the bids and asks and therefor the stock accends.
These are just my views and I beleive that this is the view of many others in this stock. Just be patient. I am not the type to have patience but with this company I can have alot of patience. Lets see this thing to 2 cents. Go TSBB!
BDUBS Pateince is the key.

 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
The best anyone seems to have got them at was .0048. Anyone here?
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
I got .0051 and am very happy with that. Congats to anyone who got in at .0046-.005.


 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BDUBS07:
Got in for 400,000 shares today at .0051.


Good for you! I never dreamed we would still be here (at half a penny) after all these weeks.
Wish I had waited to get in.
The only stock I see to have gotten at a nice low was IBZT.
 


Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
BID .0046
Ask .005


 


Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
Bid .0046
Ask .0054


 


Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
We just need some volume on this puppy. Volume means a spike in pps. I am long on this one but for you short term profit takers, volume means .009 or better.


 


Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BDUBS07:
[B]We just need some volume on this puppy. Volume means a spike in pps. I am long on this one but for you short term profit takers, volume means .009 or better.

That penny looks tough to get over, but once it does big $$$$ for all.


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Only 76 trades today. That's OK though because it's just buying me some time to be able to get more shares. I am going to accumulate as much as possible because I know that this is a no brainer. A profitable company trading under a penny!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Grr.....no vol yet......BUMP!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
I think all the MM's are over at CMKX so we have no volume.
 
Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
When do you think this one will take off...I just got 199000 at .0051. I couldn't pass this one up.
 
Posted by Spastic_Gramps on :
 
I figure the volume will move whenever they change that ridiculous spread.
 
Posted by kbpkt on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Spastic_Gramps:
I figure the volume will move whenever they change that ridiculous spread.

I agree, I complained about that the other day. The spread is incredible on this usually. I guess we just have a bunch of stubborn buyers and sellers. Have a good weekend everyone, hopefully next week will be better.
 


Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
I see a much better week this coming week. If history does hold true I see this at .0065 sometime next week. If your looking for a quick profit or just a great price for a long in a company this is the company. If the MM's ease up just a bit with this stock it will easily be at .01 or .02. Lets hope this happens.
BDUBS


 


Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
Come on , Lets wake this sleeping giant up. Lets get it going this morning. Lets hope for the best.


 


Posted by Spastic_Gramps on :
 
its a great morning except for the 8 point spread.
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Spastic_Gramps:
its a great morning except for the 8 point spread.

12 pt now
 


Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
what is the bid and ask on it this morning. i cant get into ameritrade


 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BDUBS07:
what is the bid and ask on it this morning. i cant get into ameritrade


.0052X.006
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
this is incredibly encouraging ... all buys this morning! Let's see this bad boy rocket!!!
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
what are we at?
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
We should experiance lift off today

Look at the bids lined up
 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Meshoe45:
We should experiance lift off today

Look at the bids lined up


We are due!!! When this thang actually does move...she MOVES!!! I hope it's today!


 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
spread is down to .0003, volume is up, and we're due, let's see what happens
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
This thing is going to take off. Lets sit back and enjoy. Get in if your not already.


 


Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
I just hope this puppy keeps on ascending on a vertical line all the way to $0.01 before any big news comes out. After a positive PR we should see a really big pop, hopefully in July. Think about it...if Glenn Cumming's single does well in radio it will be a good indicator or positive sales momentum already increasing their profitability to new heights. IMO I think July might be the month when we see this stock start taking off. 286K (I know its not much but is better than nothing) and counting!
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
NITE bumped up bid twice now, up to .0058, spread down to .0001
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
MM's lining up for a run people.
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
What is this?
10 minutes to the bell and they jump the spread to 7. They are just trying to beat it down but no one is going for it. Hold strong.


 


Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
We will see a run in the near future. Next 2 or 3 days i am hoping. MM's are definetely lined for this one to take off. Get in while you can. Don't be left out.


 


Posted by Damian on :
 
hey guys....

I dont want to miss the run however when you guys are talkin a run, what price are you targetting or what is the potential? The reason being I work in the days and the only chance I get is in the evening when the day has gone... any suggestions for me???

Thx.....
 


Posted by NoMore925 on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Damian:
[b]hey guys....

I dont want to miss the run however when you guys are talkin a run, what price are you targetting or what is the potential? The reason being I work in the days and the only chance I get is in the evening when the day has gone... any suggestions for me???

Every so often, while at work, call your broker for quotes so you can monitor the action. Or, even better, if your cell phone is connected to the wireless web, you can check the quotes that way. I also like to have quote alerts sent to my phone hourly. Then based on the latest bid and ask, you can place your buy or sell at that point rather than just putting in your gtc limit order the night before and blindly letting it sit without knowing the pps action. I used to have web access at work but they restrict it now, those buggers!

[This message has been edited by NoMore925 (edited June 29, 2004).]
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
bump
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
does OBV indicate the amount of shares of the float that's currently being held on to by investors? Or is that just O/S or what? Looking at OBV for TSBB we're way negative, and have been for a while, so would this indicate that more people have been selling than buying lately overall?
 
Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
Hey there ho there hi there, Guess what? I just got off the phone with RAY LARSON from honeycutt. He apologized for not returning my call sooner. He said that he could not give me inside info. He did state that tsbb is a very strong company with a few things planned for the very near future that will benefit the investors. I asked him if he has bought stock in tsbb, and he said that he has bought stock and quite heavily just recently. He feels that it would be good for the investors to not jump off the boat right now, because it is being prepared for a good trip. I asked him what he meant and he stated to hold on to tsbb for the boat is preparing to launch. He feels that this a stock for a long hold not a short investment. He said feel free to call or e-mail anytime we had a question. His phone #918-392-0336. I have called 2 times, and e-mailed 4 times to J. JENKINS ceo of tsbb and still no response. I will keep all posted. HAVE A GOOD DAY AND 4th OF JULY. remember stock market is closed monday july 5th.

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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
Thanks for the info SGT. I will wait til it goes below .005 to consider buying more
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
thanks Sgt! I'm holding
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
bid and ask haven't budged all day...jeez
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
I guess the MM's don't want it to go any where today. I am still happy I got in at .0051. We will go places with this stock. Just have patience. I don't understand what the mm's are doing with this thing.


 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
all quiet on the TSBB thread this morning...and NITE just bumped up his bid, tends to be a good sign for action
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
Today is the last day of their Qtr. Look for good numbers soon.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Today is the last day of their Qtr. Look for good numbers soon.


Some solid financial PR should be the steroids we need to pump this back to .01

Haven't seen any numbers whatsoever since last 10q about a month back.
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
holding strong here
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
MM's lined up for a run IMO on the ask
 
Posted by BT on :
 
.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
TSBB to .10 soon then to .50! <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
TSBB to .10 soon then to .50! <IMHO>


I appreciate your enthusiasm, Plat -
but this has been a very long hold.
Heck - I would be happy to see the .03 -.05 the ceo talked about!
what makes you think we are going to .10????
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
the way we've been hanging around this low makes me want to think we're just getting set for an even bigger run with each day we wait. With the L2's the way they are now all we need is some volume and we should see .007 easily.

ASK
2 @ .0054 NITE
1 @ .0056
1 @ .006
1 @ .0065
5 @ .007

as for the $.10 and $.50, who knows with pennies. We get another good financial report like last 10q and anything can happen.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
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[This message has been edited by Nashdaq5 (edited July 01, 2004).]
 


Posted by tntrader on :
 
I sure hope so.
 
Posted by bjay22 on :
 
I hate when the bid drops below .005. The volume is low too - guess alot of traders are starting the holiday early, volume is low everywhere. GZFX hasn't even traded 900,000.
 
Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
Wall Street News Alert: High Performance Stock List for Thursday! July 1, 2004
via COMTEX

July 1, 2004

Weston, FLA., Jul 01, 2004 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) --

Wall Street News Alert`s "stocks to watch" this morning are: Global Triad Inc. (OTC: GTRD), AUGRID Corp (OTCBB: AGRD), Golden Spirit Minerals Ltd. (OTCBB: GSPM) and TS&B Holdings Inc. (OTCBB: TSBB).
Stocks showing interesting activity yesterday at the close of the regular trading day were: AUGRID Corp (OTCBB: AGRD) down 5.5% on 34 million shares traded, Golden Spirit Minerals Ltd. (OTCBB: GSPM) up 4.6% on 3.7 million shares traded and TS&B Holdings Inc. (OTCBB: TSBB) down 3.7% on 10.4 million shares traded.


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Posted by platapuss on :
 
We will be on our way to $1.00 soon! TSBB to the Mooooooon........wooohooooooo! <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sgt. of ARMS:
Wall Street News Alert: High Performance Stock List for Thursday! July 1, 2004
via COMTEX

July 1, 2004

Weston, FLA., Jul 01, 2004 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) --

Wall Street News Alert`s "stocks to watch" this morning are: Global Triad Inc. (OTC: GTRD), AUGRID Corp (OTCBB: AGRD), Golden Spirit Minerals Ltd. (OTCBB: GSPM) and TS&B Holdings Inc. (OTCBB: TSBB).
Stocks showing interesting activity yesterday at the close of the regular trading day were: AUGRID Corp (OTCBB: AGRD) down 5.5% on 34 million shares traded, Golden Spirit Minerals Ltd. (OTCBB: GSPM) up 4.6% on 3.7 million shares traded and TS&B Holdings Inc. (OTCBB: TSBB) down 3.7% on 10.4 million shares traded.



Please advise me to why these stocks -and especially TSBB - are "interesting to watch"? _TSBB has been putting me to sleep!

 


Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
probably because their end of quarter report is due out and it looks as though it will be a good report which should make the stock take off. Let's hope that this right and very very soon.

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Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
I can't wait for that report. I hope it comes soon. I hope that the speculation before the report take us up and that way when it is released it can really make nice gains.


 


Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
tsbb's end of year is 6-30-04. They should be posting an end of year report very soon. This is an exciting time for both the co and the investors. Also GLENN CUMMINGS record started selling today and some stores have reported that they sold out already. This is very good news for us that have been holding.

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Posted by fastrunner on :
 
Have they been delisted at the Berlin Stocks Exchange. That might be the culprit for the PPS not rising.
 
Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
I have e-mailed J JENKINS and hear is a copy of his reply.

Dear Mr. Kender, we are employing the business plan and although you have not seen what is perceived by the investment community as good news the company is moving ahead. I can not and will not divulge any “inside information” that is not already public knowledge. However, we just closed our year and will be issuing PR in the coming weeks. We have no control over the share price, it needs to be supported by a strong shareholder base and it is the company’s belief that in the coming months it should improve, we have only been a BDC for five months and have made substantial gains. Please go back and review our third quarter results. We thank you for your concern and support. If you would like to speak with someone directly please call Ray Larson, Honeycutt Capital Group, at 918 392-0336. Again, thanx for your continued support.

Sincerely;

James Jenkins, CEO
p. s.
Please click on website below for ad in Dish Magazine ....
http://www.justinbird.com/dishmag/gc


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Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
keep holding IMO, good things are bound to happen here
 
Posted by tntrader on :
 
Sgt. of ARMS - I appreciate the DD and time you're putting into TSBB, and for passing it along to us. Thanks.
 
Posted by bjay22 on :
 
Well, thanks for the Dish link. I clicked it, and that is the first time I heard Glenn Cummings. Is this new? Seeing his little promo (and contest) is encouraging anyway.
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
If you check out the link, it's a link off of this JustinBird dot com web designer's site. Think this is the guy making their new website? If so, new site should be nice.

[This message has been edited by Nashdaq5 (edited July 02, 2004).]
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
volume splurge just occured
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
Awesome time to buy now. Get in before the run.


 


Posted by vtcpa04 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sgt. of ARMS:
tsbb's end of year is 6-30-04. They should be posting an end of year report very soon. This is an exciting time for both the co and the investors. Also GLENN CUMMINGS record started selling today and some stores have reported that they sold out already. This is very good news for us that have been holding.

Annual Reports are usually issued 3 months after the FY ends.



 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
wow, pretty pissed right now. Was about to sell but then noticed there are at least 13 MM's that I can see sitting at .004 on the bid. We're not going lower than that with the way things look now. I haven't received that news Keithsan found about the latest filing about the shareholder meeting in August, but apparently their considering increasing O/S. Either way, this is still way undervalued, we're basically at the 52-week low, I'm doubling up.
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
what's everyone else doing now? just curious
 
Posted by Smctbone on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
what's everyone else doing now? just curious

crying

 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
wow, pretty pissed right now. Was about to sell but then noticed there are at least 13 MM's that I can see sitting at .004 on the bid. We're not going lower than that with the way things look now. I haven't received that news Keithsan found about the latest filing about the shareholder meeting in August, but apparently their considering increasing O/S. Either way, this is still way undervalued, we're basically at the 52-week low, I'm doubling up.

Hoepfully they head back up, you never know - lots of buys yes would cause it to head back up but people aren't gonna buy at the higher levels as we have previously found out.

 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
They .004 was going away quick before the .0041 stepped in... ehh..
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
REAL QUICK
so much for that support.
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
Haven't seen any buys did you double ur position?
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
This is awesome! We will be at .10 in no time! TSBB to the mooooooooon!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
This is awesome! We will be at .10 in no time! TSBB to the mooooooooon!


You think so? Big retrace? and have it keep on going?
Im not to sure, keith did find some good info.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
wow, pretty pissed right now. Was about to sell but then noticed there are at least 13 MM's that I can see sitting at .004 on the bid. We're not going lower than that with the way things look now.


anyone else see like 8 bids drop within 10 seconds from .004? this sucks

 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
This is awesome! We will be at .10 in no time! TSBB to the mooooooooon!


And by .10 you mean .01?
Dont get toooooo ahead of ourselves lol, lets see this go up first.

[This message has been edited by Meshoe45 (edited July 02, 2004).]
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Meshoe45:
And buy .10 you mean .01?
Dont get toooooo ahead of ourselves lol, lets see this go up first.

This is great, we just hit a 52 week low. Man watch the action now!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
This is great, we just hit a 52 week low. Man watch the action now!


Reversal Now.
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
stacking on the bid
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
NOooo, funds unavailable, transferred them in last Friday, they should be good now! Wanted t double up, looks like we're getting ready to rebound, IMO
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
it's gonna run
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
bid
6 @ .0041

ask
1 @ .0042
1 @ .0043
1 @ .0044
2 @ .0048
1 @ .005
 


Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
We should really see a run here at the end of the day. I hope yall doubled up at these low levels. I hope we see .0052 by close.


 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
bid
2 @ .0042
5 @ .0041

ask
1 @ .0043
1 @ .0044
1 @ .0045
2 @ .0048
1 @ .005

it's gonna go
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BDUBS07:
We should really see a run here at the end of the day. I hope yall doubled up at these low levels. I hope we see .0052 by close.


.0052 aint good enough - thats breaking even for the day. LOL.
Hopefully we stay at the new levels and there isn't a retrace after the rebound.
 


Posted by Teufelmann on :
 
here, just filed.....
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Annual Meeting of Stockholders of TS&B Holdings, Inc., a Utah corporation (the “Company”), will be held Tuesday, August 17, 2004, at 11:00 a.m. in offices of TS&B Holdings, Inc., for the following purposes:


I
To elect five (5) directors to serve for the upcoming year;

Ii
To consider and act upon a proposal to ratify the selection of Bauman, Raymondo, LLP as the Company's independent accountants for the year ending June 30, 2004;

Iii
To ratify the terms of a class of preferred stock;

Iv
To ratify the creation of certain committees to serve within the Board of Directors and provided guidance to the Company;

V-
To authorize the increase the number of shares authorized for issuance;

Vi
To ratify prior action of the Company electing to be governed as a Business Development Company under the Investment Company Act of 1940;

Vii
To consider and act upon a proposal to allow the sale of stock issued by the Company at a price determined by the Board of Directors but which may be below the “net asset value” as that term is defined hereinbelow; and

Viii
To transact such other business as may properly come before the meeting or any adjournment thereof.

good luck all, probably why its tanking, took a good loss on this one.


 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
Yes thats what Keith said in the other post - we'll lets see how this goes for today. I think we have a lot of believers.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Teufelmann:

V-
To authorize the increase the number of shares authorized for issuance;



Not a big deal. They have a low float anyhow. They have some deals in the works and they need money. Takes money to make money! The sell off is due to people getting spooked and the MM's taking advantage of it.

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The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
well, at least the volume's way up!
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
well, at least the volume's way up!

need PPS up now
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
whatever happens rest of the day, tuesday should be exciting.
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
whatever happens rest of the day, tuesday should be exciting.

In an UP UP UP type of way? Or an unsure way?

 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Meshoe45:
In an UP UP UP type of way? Or an unsure way?

I'd like to think UP UP UP, but I'm leaning more toward exciting in an unsure way. Think of the people who are already out of town and whatnot for the holiday, and this all started this afternoon. People coming back on Tuesday morning to see that PPS has dropped over %20, wouldn't be surprised if there's some panic selling in the a.m., then we'll see the rebound, IMO.

 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
people over on RagingBull board are calling TS&B a huge scam...Pump&Dump, any thoughts? RB people just dumb?
 
Posted by wilthethrill on :
 
RB board IS the pump and dump.....dumping right now.....great news comes out they will be pumping away again.
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
have a good 4th all
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
I'd like to think UP UP UP, but I'm leaning more toward exciting in an unsure way. Think of the people who are already out of town and whatnot for the holiday, and this all started this afternoon. People coming back on Tuesday morning to see that PPS has dropped over %20, wouldn't be surprised if there's some panic selling in the a.m., then we'll see the rebound, IMO.

A slight rebound but prob not to these levels. We'll have to wait and see. I was talking it over with another fellow Allstocker - its a very long weekend, lots of time to read so chances are yes it may tank in the AM real hard breaking any resistance, if you guys didn't notice today there were over 12 MM's at .004 and I have never seen resistance broken that fast. There isn't much support at .004 anymore unfortunately. I did hold over the weekend (Bad idea) but my hopes are that we'll see something positive.

L2's as of now http://www.nathanmichaud.com/TSBB.JPG

The whole left hand column was filled with MM's at .004 - this .003 may not be much harder. We'll def. see a hard rebound IMO. How hard how far back up not sure? We may not even fall much more you never know.

Any opinions - additional info I'd love to hear it. I just hope for the best.

My position is only 100k at .006 but I know a lot of posters are in a lot deeper.

[This message has been edited by Meshoe45 (edited July 02, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by Meshoe45 (edited July 02, 2004).]
 


Posted by morehair on :
 
yea, bought initially at .0048 before the jump to .01 last month, then bought more, several buys, one at .009, then .0065 I think. Total holdings still only 230K but still
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
Don't get flustered about that down day on Friday. Come Tuesday I beleive that there may be a lot of sells but I beleive there will be more buys because this is at such low levels and we all know this company is a solid company. I am predictiing .0048 close which is a 15% gain tuesday. That is just my prediction. we will see how things play out tomorrow.
 
Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
Yet another new topic about TSBB. This is what I posted on the other topic.
Hello and how are all doing today? Just a note that when I talked to MR. LARSON of honeycutt, he would not confirm or deny the fact about the casino, he just said that he could not give insider info. Also when I e-mailed J.JENKINS of tsbb he also said nothing about the casino other than he could not give insider info. I believe that if you read between the lines, they could just say no we are not into the casino. However all they would say is that the could not give insider info. In other words if they said no that would not be insider info, however they could not say yes because that would be insider info. GET IT!!! TSBB ALL THE WAY TO THE MOOOOOOON AS PLATAPUSS SAYS.

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Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
look for a nice day trade today, might be a bit of a dip at beginning, but at these prices we won't stay here long IMO, should close around .0055 IMO.
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
Bid and Ask are goinggggggggg up??? hopefully this continues!
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
looks like we might gap up a bit
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
BID and ask .0045 and .0046. Lets see a gasp up and then a run.


 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Could be big today!!!
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
just picked up 110k more, hoping for a nice rebound
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
MM's messing with this thing again. I think we are aat to low of levels for them to keep it here for long.


 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
don't think I like the fact that bids all just dropped to .0035
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
MM's are trying everthing to keep this puppy down. They are going to ride this as long as they can. Get in now.


 


Posted by mamboking on :
 
News just out.


2004-07-06 09:55:50


TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Buehler Earth & Waterworks LLC Signs Additional Contracts


***

> ORLANDO, Fla., July 6, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- Buehler Earth & Waterworks LLC ("BEW"), a portfolio company of TS&B Holdings, Inc., ("Company" or "TS&B") (OTCBB:TSBB) was recently awarded three new contracts as well as two change orders to a current contract for excavation and site preparation totaling over $100,000. BEW recently completed the original contract at the Orlando Flight Training Facility in Kissimmee, Florida and was awarded two additional change orders for work to be completed in the next few weeks. BEW also received new contracts from Roebuck Construction for site work at the Hilton Vacation Club, and from Westco Fountains for site work at the Sarasota Court House. Also, BEW obtained residential site work for Janus Builders. The Company owns a 51% equity interest in the BEW and provides management services to the firm. BEW currently has over $3.2M in outstanding bids awaiting responses. The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins, stated, "We're very excited about the contracts recently signed with Buehler Earth & Waterworks. The company anticipates these new site work contracts will evolve into multi-site contract awards. Recently the contract award process has been slow mainly due to the shortage of concrete but we are extremely optimistic about being awarded additional contracts in the coming weeks." As previously stated there is a large market both here in Florida and around the country for this business. Revenues for the year are projected to be approximately $2 million dollars with net income projected to be approximately $400,000. About TS&B Holdings, Inc. TS&B Holdings Inc. is a holding company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking investment opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries. The Company's objective is to invest funding and provide services; including consulting services to micro-, small- and mid-cap businesses primarily in the $1 million to $150 million revenues range. Safe Harbor This press release contains certain forward-looking statements, which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Expressions of future goals and similar expressions reflecting something other than historical fact are intended to identify forward-looking statements, but are not the exclusive means of identifying such statements. These forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those currently anticipated. Factors that could cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, market acceptance of products, services and technologies; changes in local currency valuations; the Company's ability to continue to secure sources of financing; and other factors as described in the Company's filings with Securities and Exchange Commission. The Company undertakes no obligations to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this press release. CONTACT: Honeycutt Capital Group, LLC Tulsa, Oklahoma 918-392-0336 Honeycuttcapital
 


Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
Great news!


 


Posted by Anna on :
 
TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Buehler Earth & Waterworks LLC Signs Additional Contracts
Tuesday July 6, 9:55 am ET


ORLANDO, Fla., July 6, 2004 (PRIMEZONE) -- Buehler Earth & Waterworks LLC (``BEW''), a portfolio company of TS&B Holdings, Inc., (``Company'' or ``TS&B'') (OTC BB:TSBB.OB - News) was recently awarded three new contracts as well as two change orders to a current contract for excavation and site preparation totaling over $100,000.
ADVERTISEMENT


BEW recently completed the original contract at the Orlando Flight Training Facility in Kissimmee, Florida and was awarded two additional change orders for work to be completed in the next few weeks. BEW also received new contracts from Roebuck Construction for site work at the Hilton Vacation Club, and from Westco Fountains for site work at the Sarasota Court House. Also, BEW obtained residential site work for Janus Builders.

The Company owns a 51% equity interest in the BEW and provides management services to the firm. BEW currently has over $3.2M in outstanding bids awaiting responses.

The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins, stated, ``We're very excited about the contracts recently signed with Buehler Earth & Waterworks. The company anticipates these new site work contracts will evolve into multi-site contract awards. Recently the contract award process has been slow mainly due to the shortage of concrete but we are extremely optimistic about being awarded additional contracts in the coming weeks.'' As previously stated there is a large market both here in Florida and around the country for this business. Revenues for the year are projected to be approximately $2 million dollars with net income projected to be approximately $400,000.

About TS&B Holdings, Inc.

TS&B Holdings Inc. is a holding company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking investment opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries. The Company's objective is to invest funding and provide services; including consulting services to micro-, small- and mid-cap businesses primarily in the $1 million to $150 million revenues range.

Safe Harbor

This press release contains certain forward-looking statements, which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Expressions of future goals and similar expressions reflecting something other than historical fact are intended to identify forward-looking statements, but are not the exclusive means of identifying such statements. These forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those currently anticipated. Factors that could cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, market acceptance of products, services and technologies; changes in local currency valuations; the Company's ability to continue to secure sources of financing; and other factors as described in the Company's filings with Securities and Exchange Commission. The Company undertakes no obligations to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this press release.


 


Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
BID is up to .0037 now. I think after that pr they have buying pressure and they cant hold it down. No one is budging under .004 and we have to take off here soon.


 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
woo hoo, let's see what she can do now!
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
Bumped up again to .0038. Ask will follow suit shortly.
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Sad when a nice PR comes out and PPS does not even budge. Very close to cutting my losses short. I have alot of money invested in this Co. and ever since I bought in at .006 I have seen nothing but down hill. We keep seeing all these co. deals and how there making money but the PPS continues to drop. Very Shaky!! ARG
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
Its those mm's. They are keeping it from running but if everbody holds tight this thing will see .005 by the end of the day. I think we just saw that we have excellent support at .0038-.004.


 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Az...Cats:
Sad when a nice PR comes out and PPS does not even budge. Very close to cutting my losses short. I have alot of money invested in this Co. and ever since I bought in at .006 I have seen nothing but down hill. We keep seeing all these co. deals and how there making money but the PPS continues to drop. Very Shaky!! ARG

I'm right there with you, I bought in at .0066 and have seen nothing but red. I'm thinking of maybe making a huge buy at around .004 for a million plus, then dumping everything at .0045 just so I don't lose as much.
 


Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
Bid is up again ask is going to follow.


 


Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
These MM's are accumulating tons of shares at these very low prices but don't they need a good run up to sell and make there money. They can't make money if it just continues to drop. Where is the pay off?
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
my average is down to .0058 with my buy this morning, don't intend on selling until we hit .006 again at least. Didn't plan on losing money when i got in over a month ago, and don't intend on losing money now. Hoping to find an exit this month, potential's there, news came in today, we hit 52-week low, we're undervalued, don't see why MM's can't give us a run.
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
stacking on the bid?!
 
Posted by gmoney on :
 
sorry wrong thread
 
Posted by fastrunner on :
 
Did TSBB go through a dilution?
 
Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
The only trades going through are at the ask. This is a good sign. No one is budging and these mm's will let go and let it accend until they can get some weak hands.


 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
What will it take for this stock to get to the range of .03 - .05 like the CEO said we should be trading at?
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:
What will it take for this stock to get to the range of .03 - .05 like the CEO said we should be trading at?

I'm not too concerned with the .03 - .05 range. With the way it's been performing since I picked it up I'm not planning on waiting around for a year. If we can get back to .01 in the near future I'll be outta here in a flash, learned my lesson when I didn't sell last time we hit a penny.
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:
What will it take for this stock to get to the range of .03 - .05 like the CEO said we should be trading at?

Think about what you just said too.

The ceo SAID we should be trading at.....


 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Meshoe45:
Think about what you just said too.

The ceo SAID we should be trading at.....



I don't recall the entire filing keithsan began with the new thread, but as I recall the vote to increase authorized shares is to be decided at the shareholders meeting. This means that authorized share increase can't occur until later (which by the way can increase shareholder value if not corrupted), so I still believe this is a solid pick ... and I'm still holding.
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
just checked keithsan's thread ... I am correct about the stockholder meeting on Aug 17th to decide authorized share numbers. Hasn't been increased
 
Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
I'll say it one more time. I THINK THAT THE MM'S SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT BEHIND THE BARN AND BE GIVEN A GOOD TRASHING WITH A WHOLE ROSE BUSH. ATTENTION ALL MM'S IF YOU READ THIS YOU SHOULD TAKE HEED AND LET TSBB FLY, AND FLY ALL THE WAY TO THE MOON. YOU CANNOT CONTINUE TO KEEP IT DOWN WHEN THE COMPANY IS DOING SO WELL. JUST LET IT FLY. LET IT FLY. FLY BABY FLY. AS PLATAPUSS SAID ALL THE WAY TO THE MOOOOOOON.

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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sgt. of ARMS:
I'll say it one more time. I THINK THAT THE MM'S SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT BEHIND THE BARN AND BE GIVEN A GOOD TRASHING WITH A WHOLE ROSE BUSH. ATTENTION ALL MM'S IF YOU READ THIS YOU SHOULD TAKE HEED AND LET TSBB FLY, AND FLY ALL THE WAY TO THE MOON. YOU CANNOT CONTINUE TO KEEP IT DOWN WHEN THE COMPANY IS DOING SO WELL. JUST LET IT FLY. LET IT FLY. FLY BABY FLY. AS PLATAPUSS SAID ALL THE WAY TO THE MOOOOOOON.


I want one round no gloves ... LOL just kidding -- If you think about it, they're making us more money in the end because I know people are averaging down now. Anyone selling at a loss is playing this game all wrong.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:

I don't recall the entire filing keithsan began with the new thread, but as I recall the vote to increase authorized shares is to be decided at the shareholders meeting. This means that authorized share increase can't occur until later (which by the way can increase shareholder value if not corrupted), so I still believe this is a solid pick ... and I'm still holding.


How will increasing O/S increase shareholder value? Wouldn't they have to prove first that the company is worth more than the market cap with the current O/S? And, if this is the case, wouldn't it make sense for the PPS to be higher before increasing O/S?
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:

How will increasing O/S increase shareholder value? Wouldn't they have to prove first that the company is worth more than the market cap with the current O/S? And, if this is the case, wouldn't it make sense for the PPS to be higher before increasing O/S?

Do you honestly expect this thing to be held down by the MM's forever? I think we'd all agree it's being shorted and severely undervalued
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gmoney:

which by the way can increase shareholder value if not corrupted

What do you mean by corrupted though? In terms of MM's messing with things some more, or do you mean corrupted by the company?
 


Posted by gmoney on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
What do you mean by corrupted though? In terms of MM's messing with things some more, or do you mean corrupted by the company?

MM's
 


Posted by mamboking on :
 
More news or same news????????????????
I don't get it.
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2004-07-06 12:32:32


TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Buehler Earth & Waterworks LLC Signs Additional Contracts


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Business Editors ORLANDO, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--TSBB-- Buehler Earth & Waterworks LLC ("BEW"), a portfolio company of TS&B Holdings, Inc., ("Company" or "TS&B") (OTCBB:TSBB) was recently awarded three new contracts as well as two change orders to a current contract for excavation and site preparation totaling over $100,000. BEW recently completed the original contract at the Orlando Flight Training Facility in Kissimmee, Florida and was awarded two additional change orders for work to be completed in the next few weeks. BEW also received new contracts from Roebuck Construction for site work at the Hilton Vacation Club, and from Westco Fountains for site work at the Sarasota Court House. Also, BEW obtained residential site work for Janus Builders. The Company owns a 51% equity interest in the BEW and provides management services to the firm. BEW currently has over $3.2M in outstanding bids awaiting responses. The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated: "We're very excited about the contracts recently signed with Buehler Earth & Waterworks. The company anticipates these new site work contracts will evolve into multi-site contract awards. Recently the contract award process has been slow mainly due to the shortage of concrete but we are extremely optimistic about being awarded additional contracts in the coming weeks." As previously stated there is a large market both here in Florida and around the country for this business. Revenues for the year are projected to be approximately $2 million with net income projected to be approximately $400,000. About TS&B Holdings, Inc. TS&B Holdings Inc. is a holding company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking investment opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries. The Company's objective is to invest funding and provide services; including consulting services to micro-, small- and mid-cap businesses primarily in the $1 million to $150 million revenues range. Safe Harbor This press release contains certain forward-looking statements, which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Expressions of future goals and similar expressions reflecting something other than historical fact are intended to identify forward-looking statements, but are not the exclusive means of identifying such statements. These forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those currently anticipated. Factors that could cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, market acceptance of products, services and technologies; changes in local currency valuations; the Company's ability to continue to secure sources of financing; and other factors as described in the Company's filings with Securities and Exchange Commission. The Company undertakes no obligations to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this press release. KEYWORD: FLORIDA INDUSTRY KEYWORD: BUILDING/CONSTRUCTION REAL ESTATE BUILDING/CONSTRUCTION REAL ESTATE BUILDING/CONSTRUCTION REAL ESTATE SOURCE: TS&B Holdings Inc. CONTACT INFORMATION: Honeycutt Capital Group, LLC, Tulsa, Okla. Ray Larson, 918-392-0336 Honeycuttcapital@hotmail.com
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
same
 
Posted by will on :
 
Same result, NOTHING!
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
same


 


Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
Lets try and get this thing over the .005 mark today. Its looking strong at .0047 right now with a high of .0048. Lets see it.
 
Posted by FurrySound on :
 
Picked up some more @ 45... It's the same PR just coming from another news wire agency.

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Posted by gmoney on :
 
let's see some late afternoon green
 
Posted by FurrySound on :
 
Closed green, that's a start

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
i see we've got a nice .0011 spread...yuck
 
Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
Wall Street News Alert: Aggressive Investors Alert for Wednesday! July 7, 2004, Part 2
via COMTEX

July 7, 2004

Weston, FLA., Jul 07, 2004 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) --

Wall Street News Alert`s "stocks to watch" this morning are: West Africa Gold Inc. (OTCBB: WAGI), TS&B Holdings Inc. (OTCBB: TSBB), Power 3 Medical Products (OTCBB: PWRM) and Harken Energy Corporation (AMEX: HEC).
Stocks showing interesting activity yesterday at the close of the regular trading day were: TS&B Holdings Inc. (OTCBB: TSBB) down 4.7% on 26.8 million shares traded, Power 3 Medical Products (OTCBB: PWRM) up 18.8% on 245,400 shares traded and Harken Energy Corporation (AMEX: HEC) up 6.1% on 1.5 million shares traded




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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
good thing we got that "Aggressive Inverstors Alert" this morning, lol. Don't think 600k volume is quite enough for this to be aggressive. Only needs about 20 million more!
 
Posted by golfshop on :
 
So much for the $100,000 dirt contract......Let's hope for another hot country recording now......
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
anyone know of any other recent stocks that have performed similar to what we're seeing here with TSBB? Meaning we get positive news after hitting 52-week low, way undervalued, great potential, but MM's just keeping it down with huge spreads and manipulation? Just wanted to see where other companies ended up after similar situations.
 
Posted by warrenwh1 on :
 
Volume is too low today, spread is too high today. Convinced of great situation? Just mystified. Watching very closely now.
 
Posted by warrenwh1 on :
 
Nash - I personally think I see signs of the coming breakout. Company has announced working on big projects, volume as been seriously increading over 2 months, rumor mill starts, MM's looking short like they are holding it back hoping to cover, spreads funky too much for high volume stock, .....etc etc....it's coming big IMHO.

quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
anyone know of any other recent stocks that have performed similar to what we're seeing here with TSBB? Meaning we get positive news after hitting 52-week low, way undervalued, great potential, but MM's just keeping it down with huge spreads and manipulation? Just wanted to see where other companies ended up after similar situations.


 


Posted by BDUBS07 on :
 
Lets move the discussion to TSBB II and lets get a whole new start on TSBB.


 


Posted by mainstay on :
 
Too much good DD on this thread to let it go. Keep this one alive.
 
Posted by simonsays on :
 
Well, the PPS sure doesn't seem to be reacting to this news. Is their no interest because of the coming dilution, or is it the MM's have scared people away?
 
Posted by senseofurgency on :
 
We need bigger news than this to move us. Hopefully we will get it soon.
 
Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
Growth Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Closing of Second Private Placement Financing Through The Issuance of Restricted Stock
via COMTEX

July 8, 2004

ORLANDO, Fla., Jul 8, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) --

TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (OTCBB:TSBB), announced it recently completed the partial funding of its second private placement (PPM) financing transaction as a Business Development Company (BDC) through the private sale of Rule 144 restricted stock.

This is the second private placement financing issued to TS&B since becoming a BDC. The PPM was issued for $500,000 for restricted stock at $0.02, a 444% Premium to the market.

The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "We're very excited about our second private placement as a BDC using restricted stock. The use of restricted stock to raise equity funds should have a positive effect on our PPS. As stated in earlier press releases we have several financing transactions we are currently structuring using the same or similar strategies. The Company is still receiving positive feedback from the investment community."

About TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings Inc., is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries.

Safe Harbor

The statements made in this release constitute "forward-looking" statements, usually containing the words "believe," "estimate," "project," "expect," or similar expressions. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, changing economic conditions, interest rates trends, continued acceptance of the Company's products in the marketplace, competitive factors and other risks detailed in the Company's periodic report Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this release.

SOURCE: TS&B Holdings Inc.

Honeycutt Capital Group, LLC., Tulsa, Okla. Ray Larson, 918-392-0336 Honeycuttcapital@hotmail.com


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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
This is a total joke!
 
Posted by braggtd on :
 
What do you guys think is a good entry point into this stock? I mean how low will it go..
 
Posted by golfshop on :
 
May not be one....I'm looking for a get-out point. When WNMI outdoes this boy, it's time to do some serious thinking. How low? Who knows......

quote:
Originally posted by braggtd:
What do you guys think is a good entry point into this stock? I mean how low will it go..


 


Posted by bjay22 on :
 
I can't hold on to this crap much longer, too many other bargains out there. I see nothing but share dilution in the future. As for Glenn Cummings, haven't heard his song on the radio yet, though I don't listen to country all the time. Did anyone? Also, just curious, does anyone know if Glenn Cummings (who resides in FL) is connected to the recently acquired Cummings Financial Services (located in FL)?
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
This is a total joke!

the PR?
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
the PR?

The manipulation.


 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
I'm thinking about getting out of here and taking the tax write off. I agree, there are too many other good plays out there.
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
I think the problem we're going to have now is that once we finally do start to make a run we're going to have more people trying to find exit points as opposed to making profits due to what the MMs have been doing here.
I'd love the 2-3 day 200% run, and maybe this is the perfect setup for one, but I have a feeling we've got more frustrated investors than optimistic ones holding TSBB right now.
I personally don't intend on selling for a loss or even braking even, so until .007 comes back around I'll be hanging on.
Just thinking out loud here, rather keep discussions going, more attention the better I suppose.
 
Posted by Breezer on :
 
I got out awhile back since I was so frustrated.

I have been monitoring for a good re-entry point - but I think I have given this one up.

Good luck to you all.
 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
I can't even dump my shares at .004. I've been trying for a couple hours now. Its bad enough having to take such a huge hit, not being able to dump at the price its been selling at all day makes it worse.
 
Posted by donb on :
 
with all of this negative talk about people wanting to sell, I think it's just about time to buy in.
 
Posted by golfshop on :
 
Aside from people bailing, can you give any other reasons to get in now? Just an honest question, no harm meant.
quote:
Originally posted by donb:
with all of this negative talk about people wanting to sell, I think it's just about time to buy in.


 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by golfshop:
Aside from people bailing, can you give any other reasons to get in now? Just an honest question, no harm meant.

I'm trying to bail b/c although good news has come out inrecent weeks, the PPS has gone no where. Now, they are voting on issueing more shares in their next meeting. If they are as profitable as they say, why do they need to issue more shares? If that goes through, we are in trouble.
 


Posted by sharkus on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
I can't even dump my shares at .004. I've been trying for a couple hours now. Its bad enough having to take such a huge hit, not being able to dump at the price its been selling at all day makes it worse.

I hate when that happens! You see the raw time and sales data and you see sooo many orders being filled at your price and all around it and your order still sits there without an execution. I called my broker (ameritrade) once to complain about it - it was for the adot run up. As soon as I got in touch with a rep they put my order through. By that time I had lost some potential proffit but I was happy to have gotten out at least.

 


Posted by golfshop on :
 
Good common-sense comment.
quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
I'm trying to bail b/c although good news has come out inrecent weeks, the PPS has gone no where. Now, they are voting on issueing more shares in their next meeting. If they are as profitable as they say, why do they need to issue more shares? If that goes through, we are in trouble.


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
I can't even dump my shares at .004. I've been trying for a couple hours now. Its bad enough having to take such a huge hit, not being able to dump at the price its been selling at all day makes it worse.

It will sell @ the bid price of .0035, so go ahead and sell them shares so someone else can be very happy!

Plus the bid has only been @ .004 once today and that was at 10:09 this morning, hence the reason you have not been able to sell.


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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman

[This message has been edited by platapuss (edited July 08, 2004).]
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
well, we just made a new low, .0035, who woulda thought
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by golfshop:
Good common-sense comment.

They are not issueing more shares! They are only looking to increase the authorized amount of shares that they can issue. There is a difference!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
They are not issueing more shares! They are only looking to increase the authorized amount of shares that they can issue. There is a difference!


The ask has been at .004 for most of the day. To any person looking at this company that sees that they are voting on issueing more shares would naturally assume they need more money. I'm not trying to start a pi$$ing contest with you, but we have enough senseless pumpers all over Allstocks. Pump all you want, but having a vote on issueing more shares would only happen b/c you need more money.

[This message has been edited by kbpkt (edited July 08, 2004).]
 


Posted by donb on :
 
The bid has NOT been at .004 except once as stated before... the ASK has been at .004. They are quite different.
 
Posted by kbpkt on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by donb:
The bid has NOT been at .004 except once as stated before... the ASK has been at .004. They are quite different.

I apologize, thats what I meant to say. I read over his post too quickly. I'll edit my previous post.

[This message has been edited by kbpkt (edited July 08, 2004).]
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
does anyone know of any bad news other than the question of increasing O/S relating to TSBB? Haven't had any bashers here, almost miss them, always nice to hear the other side of things. Is there some other reason for the poor performance here other than MM's? I haven't been able to find anything.
 
Posted by donb on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
does anyone know of any bad news other than the question of increasing O/S relating to TSBB? Haven't had any bashers here, almost miss them, always nice to hear the other side of things. Is there some other reason for the poor performance here other than MM's? I haven't been able to find anything.


Neither have I, which is precisely why I just put in a buy order. Not to mention that I am going into surgery tomorrow and I won't be able to watch the stocks. I don't want to miss the buy in! GL to you all.

 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by kbpkt:
The ask has been at .004 for most of the day. To any person looking at this company that sees that they are voting on issueing more shares would naturally assume they need more money. I'm not trying to start a pi$$ing contest with you, but we have enough senseless pumpers all over Allstocks. Pump all you want, but having a vote on issueing more shares would only happen b/c you need more money.

[This message has been edited by kbpkt (edited July 08, 2004).]



NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Annual Meeting of Stockholders of TS&B Holdings, Inc., a Utah corporation (the “Company”), will be held Tuesday, August 17, 2004, at 11:00 a.m. in offices of TS&B Holdings, Inc., for the following purposes:


I
To elect five (5) directors to serve for the upcoming year;

Ii
To consider and act upon a proposal to ratify the selection of Bauman, Raymondo, LLP as the Company's independent accountants for the year ending June 30, 2004;

Iii
To ratify the terms of a class of preferred stock;

Iv
To ratify the creation of certain committees to serve within the Board of Directors and provided guidance to the Company;

V
To authorize the increase the number of shares authorized for issuance;

Vi
To ratify prior action of the Company electing to be governed as a Business Development Company under the Investment Company Act of 1940;

Vii
To consider and act upon a proposal to allow the sale of stock issued by the Company at a price determined by the Board of Directors but which may be below the “net asset value” as that term is defined hereinbelow; and

Viii
To transact such other business as may properly come before the meeting or any adjournment thereof.

First of all facts are facts. It does not state any where that they are issueing more shares. They are seeking to increase the authorized amount that they could issue if need to be. There is a difference. Here is a definition of authorized share:

The maximum number of shares of stock that a company can issue. This number is specified initially in the company's charter, but it can be changed with shareholder approval. Generally a much greater number of shares are authorized than required, to give the company flexibility to issue more stock as needed. also called authorized stock or shares authorized.

Now as far as pumping, give me a break. Everything I state as far as what I believe is my opinion as far as price goes...other wise it is fact, good or bad!

Also I use Ameritrade and the Bid has only been at .004 once today.


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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman

[This message has been edited by platapuss (edited July 08, 2004).]
 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
Good luck with your surgery and TSBB.
 
Posted by donb on :
 
On another note, the value of the company right now is $276,325... I personally think that TSBB is worth more than that. Just my opinion.
 
Posted by kbpkt on :
 
You are right that it does not mean they will issue those shares, only that they can. I do understand the difference, but I also understand that when people see things like that, they automatically read into it and factor it into the PPS. Besides that, I also can't find anything bad about this company, and I have looked. I understand that MM's play games with stocks at our expense, but I just think it is wishful thinking to blame the recent decline entirely on them. On a side note, we have made a recent high with the amount of times the TSBB thread has been at the top of the thread list.
 
Posted by VIP on :
 
my view is that tsbb will go higher than the current price.

at least .01-.015...

why?

ok so they are going to duiltion more shares.
as of now current o/s is roughly around 500 million...
2 billion more shares will be added soon if needed but I doubt they will add more shares to delevope or buy some other company out..

this company is making profit as stated in the 10q filing...thats the fact.

the insiders are holding roughly 30% of the shares.
it their $$ in this company and I don't think any of them wanna sent this stock down.
its the mm that are playing around..

today pr was pretty good if u read carefully..

Growth Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Closing of Second Private Placement Financing Through The Issuance of Restricted Stock
Thursday July 8, 9:15 am ET

think of it... how many company out there that investors wanna put their $$$ in TSBB on an otc exchange...
private placement are always a good deal..

that means that someone is betting on tsbb and its good for us shareholders.

don't let the red ink discourge u from your DD when you first bought this tsbb..

I hope I am not wrong with TSBB...
its a gamble but this worthy gamble...

remember of ibzt... when they sart doing more diultion, what happen?
the share rocket to as high as .04...
and I believe it was 1.2 billion shares being diulted...

I'm hopping TSBB will do the same....

all base on my opinion....
good luck to all long....



 


Posted by morehair on :
 
...and that, my friends, is why he is known as VIP.

(i hope you're right)
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
Anyone new to TSBB can look through all the excellent DD on these threads, for me I'm just sitting back and watching the show from now on with this one. I averaged down last Friday, sitting on 600k shares at avg of .0056, and like I've said before, won't be selling for a loss or even break even. For you bottom pickers this is prime real estate IMO. Hang in there, good things to come.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
Anyone new to TSBB can look through all the excellent DD on these threads, for me I'm just sitting back and watching the show from now on with this one. I averaged down last Friday, sitting on 600k shares at avg of .0056, and like I've said before, won't be selling for a loss or even break even. For you bottom pickers this is prime real estate IMO. Hang in there, good things to come.

Totally agree. It's not going to bother me one bit to sit on this one for a while. It might be frustrating at times but it will eventually pay off. <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
HEY THERE HO THERE HI THERE!!! That's right. This is going to be a good pay-off once the MM'S are taken behind the barn and take their rose bush beating. They cannot continue to keep this stock down much longer. Just as soon as TSBB's end of the year report comes out and show's everyone just how strong their company really is, the stock will zoom zoom zoom, all the way to the moon, (as platapuss say's).

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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
Alright, I have been annoyed by people blaming MM's for everything, but I think I'm starting turn around. Because the spread is large right now, I put in a sell at .0042 to see if it would be reflected in the bid/ask. I put it in 30 minutes ago and the ask is still showing up as .0043 on my streamer. For anyone I snapped at for blaming MM's, I'm sorry. I am witnessing them in action as we speak.
 
Posted by warrenwh1 on :
 
Actually, I believe the shareholders equity is $1.3 million which means we are selling for only 1.5 times book value. The DD on this board is lagging right now, to be honest. The company diserves better treatment. I will find a few posts and get them copied over here.

quote:
Originally posted by donb:
On another note, the value of the company right now is $276,325... I personally think that TSBB is worth more than that. Just my opinion.


 


Posted by warrenwh1 on :
 
8 Pro Reasons for TSBB

All we want is a company that wants to grow the right way. Isn't that all we can ask for? Doesn't it all boil down to intent, and effort? There are real facts to evaluate this opportunity:

1. The Buehler subsidiary. Does this not speak for itself? Quality contracts with organizations like the Sarasota Court House and sub-work with the Hilton chain and much more. $3.2 million out in bids - great numbers for a sub-penny...any complaints about effort and intent here? I would think that we as shareholders would be pleased.

2. Gulf Coast Recording - Has completed a real recording from an excellent artist, Glenn Cummings. Record was professionally done to the point of compliments from a top industry guy (see post #6286). His new single is actually getting airplay in Nashville area, and the radio station tour starting on 19th. Sounds about as real as life can get.

3. Cummings Financial - Many years in business. $25 million plus in loan originations. Acquired just recently. Again, how can you get any more real than that? Keep an eye on this company....How much mortgage business do you think there is in the U.S? This purchase would seem to be a natural growth area that TSBB acquired to put on the fast track. A world of potential here in FL and elsewhere.

4. Wellstone - Good private companies need shells on a regular basis. They are no doubt shopping for the right one. Shareholders can see an immediate benefit when they chose a company.

5. Sports Nation - Excellent margins in this developing business. Let's see how it evolves.

6. KMA Financial - A sleeper? How many public and private companies need financial consulting work of all kinds?Don't overlook this one.

7. TS&B Financial - Various consulting opportunities. Again, should not be underestimated in terms of potential.

8. TS&B Gaming - Has already announced a joint venture effort toward a Central Florida racetrack - a $100 million venture. Sounds pretty good to me.....

You know, every sub-penny has risk. To offset that you need the opportunity for BIG rewards. It's all here, IMHO.
Study, read, keep up with TSBB, decide each and every one for themselves. As it should be.. W

 


Posted by warrenwh1 on :
 
From the other day:

Just had a really great 30 minute call with Dennis Banka at Z-104 in Carthage, TN. He is the first one to play Glenn Cummings and he really likes the music. He is keeping Glenn in the rotation, and "Big" is heard regularly there. The signal covers about 1/2 of Nashville.

Dennis is going to be buying the station soon, and will move from music director to owner/music director. He's been in the business for 13 years. He had a lot of really good things to say about his meeting with Glenn last month.

First, he said that the producers made a great decision to make the record in a certain way that has the highest technical compatibility with radio airplay. It has something to do with compressing the signal, and if it isn't done right, the song doesn't have the same sound quality over the airwaves as it does in your CD player.

He said every station manager would recognize right away whether it was done right or not - many are not. Glenn's is ready for airplay.

He said Glenn sang he whole album for him - not as an audition, but just because Glenn was excited about his record while they listened. He said he was very impressed with what he heard live without equipment, and that Glenn has the raw talent, looks, size to make this happen.

Dennis also said not everyone is ready, willing and able to go out on the road and promote the music as Glenn is about to do. They just don't have it in them to pull it off. He said Glenn does.

Anyway, it was a GREAT chat with a real industry pro that Time Warner uses to check out new recording artists and break them in on the airwaves. And he says Glenn has the goods as far as he's concerned, and he will keep playing him. Now it's up to the other music directors, DJ's, and fans, he said.

He told me about the path to slots in record stores also. It basically comes down to airplay to get into the Wal-Marts - but if he's getting local airplay somewhere, then Wal-Mart's distributor knows about it and local stores are stocked. So you don't have to conquer the world in a month - you take it the way you eat an elephant - one bite at a time. One interview at a time. One station at a time.

And one last thing - he said he gave Kenny Chesney his first airplay and met him right there at the same station -and Glenn is more talented than Kenny Chesney - at least at this stage.

This guy is clearly pulling for Glenn, and even though it's pretty evident it takes time to break through, thinks Glenn has got the goods to make a serious run at national recognition.

 


Posted by senseofurgency on :
 
I'm out. I just feel we are headed for much lower levels with the new shares that will be authorized without a doubt. This warren character seems to be a pure pumper.
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Now why can't Jenkins step up to the plate for TSBB as Frank is doing for Qbid. That was a very nice PR. We need to fight these MM's El Jenkie Boy. Time to get a grip!!! I will be sending an email to Jenkins everyday until something is done about all this naked shorting bullsheet. I suggest you do the same!! I am tired of seeing great Co., such as this one beeing run to the ground by MM's. Sad Sad Sad
 
Posted by kbpkt on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Az...Cats:
Now why can't Jenkins step up to the plate for TSBB as Frank is doing for Qbid. That was a very nice PR. We need to fight these MM's El Jenkie Boy. Time to get a grip!!! I will be sending an email to Jenkins everyday until something is done about all this naked shorting bullsheet. I suggest you do the same!! I am tired of seeing great Co., such as this one beeing run to the ground by MM's. Sad Sad Sad

They did issue a similar PR about a month ago when we had that run up to .01. I hope they don't issue a PR like that again. Those PR's are just whiny fluff PR's that do nothing for the PPS. Look at QBID, its tanking right now like it always does after a fluff PR.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by senseofurgency:
I'm out. I just feel we are headed for much lower levels with the new shares that will be authorized without a doubt. This warren character seems to be a pure pumper.


A pumper is someone who cannot back up their claims without facts. He has stated all facts! I very seriously doubt you have any shares in this at all, you are probably a basher trying to get in at even a cheaper price. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by FurrySound on :
 
bid/ask .0036/.0037 that's new...

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FurrySound
-DD-GLTA-Unless I've quoted a source, I know not what I speak of.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
TSBB is a great stock to own long term. From this point I say 1 - 6 months is a good hold period. I am expecting some money to come in and believe me, when it does I am buying more. This is an opportunity that I think is a great one. I have done my DD, and if what I have discovered is all true, then TSBB is going to rock. Do not take my word for it, do your own DD and come to your own conclusion. <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
ASK .004
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
Looks like I will be acquiring some highy DISCOUNTED shares!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by golfshop on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Looks like I will be acquiring some highy DISCOUNTED shares!


DISCOUNTED is probably a nice word just now.....perhaps if we can all just sit tight until the next PR comes out, we may be able to pick them up at a DEEPER DISCOUNTED cost lol....


 


Posted by needtoretire on :
 
News out!


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July 13, 2004 09:15 AM US Eastern Timezone

Growth Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Closing of Third Private Placement Financing through the issuance of Restricted Stock

ORLANDO, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 13, 2004--TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (OTCBB:TSBB), announced it recently completed the funding of its third private placement financing transaction as a Business Development Company (BDC) through the private sale of Rule 144 restricted stock.


This is the third private placement financing issued to TS&B since becoming a BDC. The PPM was issued for $75,000 for restricted stock at $0.10, a 2857% Premium to the market (as of the close of business July 12, 2004).

The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "We're very excited about our third private placement as a BDC using restricted stock. We believe the sale of the restricted stock shows the confidence the investors have in TSBB and its business plan. As stated in earlier press releases we have several financing transactions we are currently structuring using the same or similar strategies. The Company is still receiving positive feedback from the investment community."

About TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings Inc., is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries.

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Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
What a useless PR...! We can expect it to go down further! What really irks me is the line that they keep using which is..."The Company is still receiving positive feedback from the investment community." If the feedback is so positive why is the share price tanking like there is no tomorrow...!
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
I agree!!! Blau Blau Blau..Useless
 
Posted by kbpkt on :
 
IMO, PR's likes this just reaffirm what voting on increasing their ability to issue more shares tells me, they need money. If they are doing so well, there would be no need for this. I've taken such a huge hit, theres no use selling now, still holding.
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
It's my understanding that these Private Placement FInancings are a good thing...and personally, I'd rather have news like this as opposed to no news at all, it at least shows that they're TRYING to get PPS up, just proves they'll have to try harder.
As for the great line Jenkins keeps using at the end of PR's, "The Company is still receiving positive feedback from the investment community", what a bunch of bull, lol. I'd like to know which investors have been praising him recently with the PPS the way they are.
 
Posted by kbpkt on :
 
Last night when I was watching the Homerun Derby, Roger Clemens opened up the show by announcing a country western singer who was a great friend of his. All I kept thinking was "Please be Glen CUmmings, please be Glen Cummings." Just like the PPS, I was disapointed at the outcome. Oh well.
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
You think if Glen Cummings becomes a big Country star it will bring the PPS up?
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CuriousBull:
What a useless PR...! We can expect it to go down further! What really irks me is the line that they keep using which is..."The Company is still receiving positive feedback from the investment community." If the feedback is so positive why is the share price tanking like there is no tomorrow...!

What is useless is your post! LOL.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
In case any one has a real interest in knowing what private placement of restricted stock means, then please take the time and go to this link and read the information provided before you start calling a PR useless!
http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/rule144.htm

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The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CuriousBull:
What a useless PR...! We can expect it to go down further! What really irks me is the line that they keep using which is..."The Company is still receiving positive feedback from the investment community." If the feedback is so positive why is the share price tanking like there is no tomorrow...!

Let me ask you a question? Would you buy a 750,000 shares of stock for .10 a share when it's currently trading at only .0035/share and be required to hold that stock for one year if you were not confident that the company was going to grow? Obviously they feel that the company has real potential otherwise they would not take a risk with $75K unless of course that is pocket change and they can care less if they lose it. <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by kbpkt on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Az...Cats:
You think if Glen Cummings becomes a big Country star it will bring the PPS up?

No I don't, but huge record sales will. Maybe not as much as their other buisness ventures, but it will help.
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
someone fat-fingered .026 Ha!!
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slowgothemo73:
someone fat-fingered .026 Ha!!

I saw that...LOL
 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
Looking good this morning.
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
Press Release Source: TS&B Holdings Inc. and The Kallay Group


Growth Company TS&B Holdings, Inc. Agrees to Strategic Alliance With Commercial Real Estate Syndicator and Developer, The Kallay Group
Wednesday July 14, 9:15 am ET


ORLANDO, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 14, 2004--TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (OTCBB:TSBB - News), in conjunction with its Cummings Financial subsidiary, announced that after the completion of due diligence on the part of both entities, a strategic alliance and understanding with The Kallay Group is now in place which is projected to create significant services fees for Cummings by assisting Kallay with its increasing opportunities in the contracting, financing, acquisitions and development of existing "big box retail" properties throughout the Central region of the United States.
Cummings Financial, through TS&B CEO, James E. Jenkins, stated that, "The business model of The Kallay Group is well-suited to utilizing Cummings Financial's title company, financial expertise and existing strong relationships with over 450 financial institutions."

Says Edward Kallay, President of The Kallay Group, "We are very pleased with the opportunity to build a mutually beneficial relationship with Cummings Financial and further to working with TS&B on a first-look basis as a potential syndication member in our commercial real estate acquisition and development programs."

About The Kallay Group

The Kallay Group is a privately-held corporation operating from headquarters in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Headed by Ed Kallay, The Kallay Group and its professional associates have well over 100 years experience in commercial real estate brokerage, acquisition, development and appraisal. The Kallay Group has demonstrated past profits and success in the redevelopment of retail properties and sees excellent opportunities for continued growth in the big box retail venue.

The corporate strategic initiatives for current and future growth are based on a model of syndications with accredited private investors and entities to purchase bundled vacated big box retail properties (typically WalMart and K-Mart locations) with existing structures between 60,000 to 120,000 sq. ft. in size. Through solid relationships with national and regional retailers, The Kallay Group will continue to redevelop, lease and refinance those vacated properties, which, in addition to the intrinsic business value, brings economic value to the local communities as well.

About TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings Inc. is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast-growth industries.

TS&B Holdings Inc. has a financial services subsidiary, TS&B Financial Services, Inc., that provides investment and merchant banking services and strategic planning to both the public and private sectors.

Safe Harbor

The statements made in this release constitute "forward-looking" statements, usually containing the words "believe", "estimate", "project", "expect", or similar expressions. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, changing economic conditions, interest rates trends, continued acceptance of the Company's products in the marketplace, competitive factors and other risks detailed in the Company's periodic report Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this release.

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Ray Larson, 918-392-0336

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Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Over 4 mill at the open. Wow, Was that one big chunck? Anyone have an L2?
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Here we go!!!!!!!
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
nice to see the PR's picking up again, and FINALLY an increase in PPS after news out! Volume looks nice, coming off 52-week low, let's see what happens
 
Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
L2's anybody?
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
Bid
1 @ .0038
1 @ .0031
11 @ .003

Ask
2 @ .0042
3 @ .0045
2 @ .0047

until some MMs come off that .003 bid this isn't going anywhere.
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
I love it, more PR, we're getting set for the move here, without a doubt.

TS&B Holdings, Inc. Glenn Cummings: Single ``BIG'' Mailed to Radio Stations and Tour Begins
7/14/2004 12:02:00 PM


ORLANDO, Fla., Jul 14, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB), issues shareholder and investor update on Gulf Coast Records' (GCR) artist Glenn Cummings.


Glenn Cummings single "BIG" was released to Radio and began play on Z-104 in Carthage, TN last week.

The station director of KTNN in Window Rock, AZ reported to Jerry Duncan, a GCR Nashville Promoter, that Glenn beat out Keith Urban on their new music showdown.

Dish Magazine has started an exclusive contest for their readers featuring Glenn. Readers and shareholders are invited to visit http://www.dishmag.com and sign up for the contest.

Monday Music fax was sent yesterday to BB, RR, Indicator & Music Row stations, plus the Music Row "In Charge" industry list.

The campaign for Glenn's new single "BIG" kicks off on July 16th in Music Row Publications Inc., http://www.musicrow.com and July 20th in R&R Hot Fax and R&R Magazine.

This weekend in Jacksonville, FL, July 17th, Glenn will be featured on Good Morning Jacksonville, NBC, WTLV Channel 12 at 9:30AM and 9:55AM to close out the show , http://www.firstcoastnews.com. At 11:00AM Glenn will make an appearance at Wolfson Children's Hospital Cancer Ward to make a $5000 donation on behalf of Duval Honda - Ford - Acura and Vito's Italian restaurant in Jacksonville and sign autographs. Jacksonville stations WQIK and WROO are having a contest featuring Glenn and will invite 10 listeners from each station to have dinner with Glenn and the radio station promoters that night from 5:30PM to 7:30PM at Vito's Italian Restaurant at Jacksonville Landings.. Glenn will also be performing at The Landings in Jacksonville from 8:00PM until 10:00PM, visit http://jacksonvillelanding.com. All shareholders in the area are invited to attend.

The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "we're very excited about the response we have received from the radio stations that have aired Glenn's new single. The promotion by WQIK and WROO, two of the larger radio stations in Florida is a tribute to Glenn's abilities. TS&B and Gulf Coast Records wants to extend a special thanks to Steve Chun, CMD/CF/CCI, who coordinated and set the stage for Glenn in Jacksonville and Paul Murray for the introduction to Steve."


[This message has been edited by Nashdaq5 (edited July 14, 2004).]
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
I was finally able to hit the "Deposit mo Money" in my Ameritrade account. Hopefully I will be able to buy at these prices next week when the deposit clears.
And as far as all you "Nay Sayers" go, well......eat dirt!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman

[This message has been edited by platapuss (edited July 14, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by platapuss (edited July 14, 2004).]
 


Posted by LSDesigns on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
I love it, more PR, we're getting set for the move here, without a doubt.

TS&B Holdings, Inc. Glenn Cummings: Single ``BIG'' Mailed to Radio Stations and Tour Begins
7/14/2004 12:02:00 PM


This weekend in Jacksonville, FL, July 17th, Glenn will be featured on Good Morning Jacksonville, NBC, WTLV Channel 12 at 9:30AM and 9:55AM to close out the show , http://www.firstcoastnews.com. At 11:00AM Glenn will make an appearance at Wolfson Children's Hospital Cancer Ward to make a $5000 donation on behalf of Duval Honda - Ford - Acura and Vito's Italian restaurant in Jacksonville and sign autographs. Jacksonville stations WQIK and WROO are having a contest featuring Glenn and will invite 10 listeners from each station to have dinner with Glenn and the radio station promoters that night from 5:30PM to 7:30PM at Vito's Italian Restaurant at Jacksonville Landings.. Glenn will also be performing at The Landings in Jacksonville from 8:00PM until 10:00PM, visit http://jacksonvillelanding.com. All shareholders in the area are invited to attend.

The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "we're very excited about the response we have received from the radio stations that have aired Glenn's new single. The promotion by WQIK and WROO, two of the larger radio stations in Florida is a tribute to Glenn's abilities. TS&B and Gulf Coast Records wants to extend a special thanks to Steve Chun, CMD/CF/CCI, who coordinated and set the stage for Glenn in Jacksonville and Paul Murray for the introduction to Steve."


[This message has been edited by Nashdaq5 (edited July 14, 2004).]


Well, I am in Jax, Fl and can go see what this guy is about. If he can make me like Country then I might buy in...lol. I will let ya know what I think. If you have Sattelite with Jacksonville Local Channels...you can check out the Morning show too.

P.S. WQIK and WROO are pretty much the only Country Radio Stations here...at least the Main ones.

[This message has been edited by LSDesigns (edited July 14, 2004).]
 


Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
Oops, sorry I posted old news in the new thread that is locked already. I didn't see that one yesterday. But GLTA.
 
Posted by Da_Goon on :
 
Did this thing actually hit .04 today, or is it an error?
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Da_Goon:
Did this thing actually hit .04 today, or is it an error?

error
 


Posted by Breezer on :
 
so would anyone out there recommend buying this now?
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Breezer:
so would anyone out there recommend buying this now?

Absolutely! Nothing has changed. The company is on track! Do your DD!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
So when do you think this one is gonna start moving(and not down)? Everything looks very solid except for this downtrend and volume. (Minor Technicalities)
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BeginnersLuck:
So when do you think this one is gonna start moving(and not down)? Everything looks very solid except for this downtrend and volume. (Minor Technicalities)

After I get through accumulating...hopefully! LOL.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman

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Posted by golfshop on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Absolutely! Nothing has changed. The company is on track! Do your DD!
Hang on.....could hit .002 today with another good PR



 


Posted by golfshop on :
 
sorry 'bout that, platapuss, that's my two cents worth for today.
quote:
Originally posted by golfshop:


 


Posted by protein3 on :
 
PCCL is where you guys need to be!!! Come over ! News on the way!!!
 
Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
HEY THERE Just wanted to bring tsbb back to the first page of allstocks. Also I mailed a letter to JENKINS asking him about the shorting of the stock and what he can or will do about it.

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Posted by golfshop on :
 
Any word on the Glenn Cummings weekend in Florida?? Nothing posted so far.
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
I love it, more PR, we're getting set for the move here, without a doubt.

TS&B Holdings, Inc. Glenn Cummings: Single ``BIG'' Mailed to Radio Stations and Tour Begins
7/14/2004 12:02:00 PM


ORLANDO, Fla., Jul 14, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB), issues shareholder and investor update on Gulf Coast Records' (GCR) artist Glenn Cummings.


Glenn Cummings single "BIG" was released to Radio and began play on Z-104 in Carthage, TN last week.

The station director of KTNN in Window Rock, AZ reported to Jerry Duncan, a GCR Nashville Promoter, that Glenn beat out Keith Urban on their new music showdown.

Dish Magazine has started an exclusive contest for their readers featuring Glenn. Readers and shareholders are invited to visit http://www.dishmag.com and sign up for the contest.

Monday Music fax was sent yesterday to BB, RR, Indicator & Music Row stations, plus the Music Row "In Charge" industry list.

The campaign for Glenn's new single "BIG" kicks off on July 16th in Music Row Publications Inc., http://www.musicrow.com and July 20th in R&R Hot Fax and R&R Magazine.

This weekend in Jacksonville, FL, July 17th, Glenn will be featured on Good Morning Jacksonville, NBC, WTLV Channel 12 at 9:30AM and 9:55AM to close out the show , http://www.firstcoastnews.com. At 11:00AM Glenn will make an appearance at Wolfson Children's Hospital Cancer Ward to make a $5000 donation on behalf of Duval Honda - Ford - Acura and Vito's Italian restaurant in Jacksonville and sign autographs. Jacksonville stations WQIK and WROO are having a contest featuring Glenn and will invite 10 listeners from each station to have dinner with Glenn and the radio station promoters that night from 5:30PM to 7:30PM at Vito's Italian Restaurant at Jacksonville Landings.. Glenn will also be performing at The Landings in Jacksonville from 8:00PM until 10:00PM, visit http://jacksonvillelanding.com. All shareholders in the area are invited to attend.

The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "we're very excited about the response we have received from the radio stations that have aired Glenn's new single. The promotion by WQIK and WROO, two of the larger radio stations in Florida is a tribute to Glenn's abilities. TS&B and Gulf Coast Records wants to extend a special thanks to Steve Chun, CMD/CF/CCI, who coordinated and set the stage for Glenn in Jacksonville and Paul Murray for the introduction to Steve."


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Posted by Az...Cats on :
 
Thinkin about jumpin for some more @ .0029. Hmmmm, Any thoughts. Will it dip any futher?
 
Posted by Booty Quest on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Az...Cats:
Thinkin about jumpin for some more @ .0029. Hmmmm, Any thoughts. Will it dip any futher?


I'm debating the same thing. They're manipulating the he|| outta this thang. What to do...?
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
so for the sake of conversation, and to keep me optimistic for the PPS here, when does everyone think we'll see a trend reversal? Most all of us who have posted here are guilty of saying one time or another that we've hit the bottom and that "now" is a great buy-in opportunity. While they were at the time, clearly we've all been had by the MM's and are now starting to wonder when we really will hit the bottom, and when we do, how much of a bounce are we going to see?
I guess all we can really wait for is this shareholders meeting in August. Clearly good news doesn't have any effect whatsoever on PPS, so maybe approving the increase in authorized shares will work?
On a side note, anyone happen to know when to expect last quarter's report? I believe it ended in June if I'm not mistaken.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
so for the sake of conversation, and to keep me optimistic for the PPS here, when does everyone think we'll see a trend reversal? Most all of us who have posted here are guilty of saying one time or another that we've hit the bottom and that "now" is a great buy-in opportunity. While they were at the time, clearly we've all been had by the MM's and are now starting to wonder when we really will hit the bottom, and when we do, how much of a bounce are we going to see?
I guess all we can really wait for is this shareholders meeting in August. Clearly good news doesn't have any effect whatsoever on PPS, so maybe approving the increase in authorized shares will work?
On a side note, anyone happen to know when to expect last quarter's report? I believe it ended in June if I'm not mistaken.

It ended at the end of June and they are going to release results at their meeting in August. As far as the PPS goes, well.....

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
you'd think TSBB went out of business last week or something. I'm extremely frustrated right now, can this be anything other than MM manipulation? Do they know something we don't? Is Jenkins telling them something he's not telling us? So many questions, and no answers.
 
Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
I think they turned the lights out on this outfit.
If this stock keeps falling like a lead weight, Mr. Jenkins will be singing the BLUES with Mr. Cummings....there wont be no country music
 
Posted by Garret on :
 
This stock looks and sounds to good to be performing this poorly. Did anyone else see the spike yesterday or did my system generate an error?
 
Posted by Candydish on :
 
Well, sent Mr. Jenkins an email, will let you know what he has to say...
CD
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Garret:
This stock looks and sounds to good to be performing this poorly. Did anyone else see the spike yesterday or did my system generate an error?


first of all, you're absolutely right, we've been saying that ever since we started this descent of death from $.01, secondly, definitely an error.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Just added some more to my position. It looks grim right now, but I am sticking by the "DD" that I have done. I just have a gut feeling that something "BIG" is about to happen. Hold on all you longs cause you will be rewarded for your patience! <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Garret on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:

first of all, you're absolutely right, we've been saying that ever since we started this descent of death from $.01, secondly, definitely an error.


I am glad that it was an error, I was hoping I didn't miss my opportunity to make a bunch of money and end this madness.....

 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
I have been looking through posts on other boards as well as this board and it amazes me all the crying that is being done about TSBB. Get a grip people! This is penny land, there are risks involved. Sending emails and crying is not going to make a stocks PPS rise. If seeing a stocks price drop freaks you out then maybe you should not be trading! Go TSBB....to the MOON! <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
look platapus, no matter which way you look at it this stock stinks. yes pennies go down, but we don't buy them on that premise. don't patronise people.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
look platapus, no matter which way you look at it this stock stinks. yes pennies go down, but we don't buy them on that premise. don't patronise people.

Well Duh! Who would buy stock on the "premise" that it's going down? All I am saying is, if a person can't handle the fact that a stock is not going up, then you don't need to be trading!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
look platapus, no matter which way you look at it this stock stinks. yes pennies go down, but we don't buy them on that premise. don't patronise people.

Also, maybe to you this stock stinks, but to me it doesn't. I have done my DD and I think it will be a winner. Do I like to see it drop this low? Of course not, unless I am going to average down which is exactly what I did today.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
sorry, but i still think it stinks. it's been run down to the ground or been dumped. if it does make a run, its not going to be going past where it was when i first bought in months ago at around.0055 anytime soon. i'll live and learn to take my profits next time. lets just hope we see a reverse.
 
Posted by Candydish on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
I have been looking through posts on other boards as well as this board and it amazes me all the crying that is being done about TSBB. Get a grip people! This is penny land, there are risks involved. Sending emails and crying is not going to make a stocks PPS rise. If seeing a stocks price drop freaks you out then maybe you should not be trading! Go TSBB....to the MOON! <IMHO>


Not sure if you are talking about my sending an email. If not sorry, but to clarify, my email was to ask about news and to offer support. As I told them in my email, I am a firm believer , of TSBB.
CD
 


Posted by lumik on :
 
Could you explain why you would want a R/S ? Sorry but I am a new trader and just would like to know,from what I gather from previous post's most don't want a R/S so I am curious. Thanks
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
sorry, but i still think it stinks. it's been run down to the ground or been dumped. if it does make a run, its not going to be going past where it was when i first bought in months ago at around.0055 anytime soon. i'll live and learn to take my profits next time. lets just hope we see a reverse.


 


Posted by f15crew on :
 
I think tic_toc was refering to a reverse as in an upward trend as opposed to the PPS going down.
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
I sold half of my shares a few days ago at .004, planning on doubling them tomorrow. Everyone who's been holding for the past couple months has lost money on TSBB, no one's happy with the PPS. I for one plan on making all my money back, plus some. Looking at the chart for the past year it's a no brainer. The lower we go with this the greater the potential for even greater gains, IMO. I haven't been progressively losing money in TSBB just to sell at the lowest it's PPS have been in over a year, and I don't think many other people have either. The lower we get the more shares I buy.
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
yeah, reverse trend; not an R/S
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
I wonder if TSBB realizes how pathetically low their pps are right now. Can't believe this...they will be basically worthless if we continue along this path. I own at 0061, so feel I have a valid reason to complain.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Candydish:
Not sure if you are talking about my sending an email. If not sorry, but to clarify, my email was to ask about news and to offer support. As I told them in my email, I am a firm believer , of TSBB.
CD

No, not talking about youe email.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
"might" have found some support at .002? maybe? Did I just jinx it?
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
"might" have found some support at .002? maybe? Did I just jinx it?

Not worried here! Giving the chance I'll buy some more. TSBB to the moon...eventually!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Just a little encouragement here. I usually don't like to make comparisons, but just look at what IBZT did back in late Dec '03. They went from .002 to a high of .08 in 10 trading days and they have 2 billion outstanding shares. Also look at the bad news they have had and they are still trading @ .01. I think TSBB has a better business model so I think they can do the same in a short amount of time also.

That's one thing I like about penny stocks, once they begin to move, they move quick!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Candydish on :
 
Got to wear some shades too cause when I talk about TSBB... the future sure seems bright.
CD

quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Just a little encouragement here. I usually don't like to make comparisons, but just look at what IBZT did back in late Dec '03. They went from .002 to a high of .08 in 10 trading days and they have 2 billion outstanding shares. Also look at the bad news they have had and they are still trading @ .01. I think TSBB has a better business model so I think they can do the same in a short amount of time also.

That's one thing I like about penny stocks, once they begin to move, they move quick!



 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
I just have a feeling that this is going to be reversal week for TSBB.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
I just have a feeling that this is going to be reversal week for TSBB.



So far it's looking good. The base is forming and the reversal is beginning. <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by platapuss:
[b]I just have a feeling that this is going to be reversal week for TSBB.



So far it's looking good. The base is forming and the reversal is beginning. <IMHO>

22 million traded so far today...hmmmmm!

[/B][/QUOTE]

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
averaged down so I got 419000 @ 0.00390
 
Posted by mike7131_99 on :
 
Im just hoping we hit .0020 before we run because I have an order for 1/2 million shares at that price
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by mike7131_99:
Im just hoping we hit .0020 before we run because I have an order for 1/2 million shares at that price

LOL

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Hmmmmm, Glenn Cummings touring with Aaron Tippin...interesting!
http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/879612/

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Filing Of 8K Postponing Shareholder Meeting and Proxy
via COMTEX

July 26, 2004

ORLANDO, Fla., Jul 26, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) --

TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (OTCBB:TSBB), filed an 8K with the SEC to postpone the Shareholder meeting and Proxy.

The corporate secretary of TS&B Holdings Inc., Charles Giannetto stated, "we are still awaiting approval from the SEC for the Proxy. We expect that approval to be forthcoming shortly but not in a timely fashion to permit printing and mailing. The date of the new meeting will be in the approved proxy"

About TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings Inc., is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries.

TS&B Holdings Inc. has a financial services subsidiary, TS&B Financial Services, Inc. that provides investment and merchant banking services and strategic planning to both the public and private sectors.

Safe Harbor

The statements made in this release constitute "forward-looking" statements, usually containing the words "believe," "estimate," "project," "expect," or similar expressions. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, changing economic conditions, interest rates trends, continued acceptance of the Company's products in the marketplace, competitive factors and other risks detailed in the Company's periodic report Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this release.

SOURCE: TS&B Holdings Inc

Honeycutt Capital Group, LLC, Tulsa, Oklahoma Ray Larson, 918-392-0336

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Posted by platapuss on :
 
Just as the MM's slowly walked this down, they are going to slowly walk it up then.....POP!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman

[This message has been edited by platapuss (edited July 27, 2004).]
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Bump......to atleast .0086 Pleezeeeeeee

I want my money back!!!!
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Biggedy-Bump!!!!!!!!!!!


 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slowgothemo73:

I want my money back!!!![/B]


lolololol!!!!
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tic_toc:
lolololol!!!!

What's so funny about that? If he hangs on, he will double! <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
Take a look at the indicators...It's gonna go real soon.
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Yeah....Ok double.....Hmmmmm

For me that would be like a 1000%

Trust me this one is filed under Stroker!!!!

Puff....Puff....Pass
 


Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Buehler Earth & Waterworks LLC Signs More Contracts
7/28/2004 9:15:00 AM








ORLANDO, Fla., Jul 28, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Buehler Earth & Waterworks LLC ("BEW"), a portfolio company of TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company")(OTCBB:TSBB) through its pool division, Advanced Pool Technologies, LLC was recently awarded two new contracts totaling over $214,000.







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Buehler recently was awarded over $100,000 in contracts in the past few weeks and has signed additional contracts totaling $214,000 this week. The new contracts are with Pulte Home Corporation for their clubhouse pool at Stonebridge Commons in Orlando and a residential pool in Seminole County. As previously reported, the last three contracts were with Roebuck Construction for site work at the Hilton Vacation Club, Westco Fountains for site work at the Sarasota Court House and residential site work for Janus Builders. BEW now has over $400,000 in contracts under construction.

The Company owns a 51% equity interest in the BEW and provides management services to BEW. BEW currently has over $4.0 Million in outstanding bids awaiting responses.

The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "we're very excited about the new contracts signed with Buehler Earth & Waterworks. BEW now has over $400,000 in signed contracts. BEW is achieving its projected revenue goals and they anticipate signing several more contracts over the next few weeks. As contracts are awarded the bid pipeline keeps growing. As previously stated there is a large market both here in Florida and around the country for this business. Revenues for the year are projected to be approximately $2 million dollars with net income projected to be approximately $400,000."

About TS&B Holdings, Inc.

TS&B Holdings Inc. is a holding company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking investment opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries. The Company's objective is to invest funding and provide services; including consulting services to micro-, small- and mid-cap businesses primarily in the $1 million to $150 million revenues range.

Safe Harbor

This press release contains certain forward-looking statements, which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Expressions of future goals and similar expressions reflecting something other than historical fact are intended to identify forward-looking statements, but are not the exclusive means of identifying such statements. These forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those currently anticipated. Factors that could cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, market acceptance of products, services and technologies; changes in local currency valuations; the Company's ability to continue to secure sources of financing; and other factors as described in the Company's filings with Securities and Exchange Commission. The Company undertakes no obligations to revise or update any forward-looking statements in order to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after the date of this press release.

SOURCE: TS&B Holdings Inc.

Honeycutt Capital Group, LLC, Tulsa, Okla.
Ray Larson, 918-392-0336



 


Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
Hopefully it will go up and stay up.
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
More good news regarding TSBB! More money coming into the company! Bet the end of quarter profits look great.

Hoping to see a bump today.

I want my money back too, but with a big profit!
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Show me the mon-aaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Ummmmm.....Volume....Where are you????.....yoo hoo
 
Posted by Nashdaq5 on :
 
Well, it looks like we may have at least put an end to the horrifying decline we were in for a few weeks. Reversal could be in the works. Unfortunately, same old story with the PR, get good news and no one cares. Guess we'll need some bigger financials to get it rolling the right direction.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
Well, it looks like we may have at least put an end to the horrifying decline we were in for a few weeks. Reversal could be in the works. Unfortunately, same old story with the PR, get good news and no one cares. Guess we'll need some bigger financials to get it rolling the right direction.

This is coiling up...it's going to POP!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Teufelmann on :
 
Sorry guys but I am out. This stock has been a real big dissapointment. Every positive PR and the share price drops. Looks to me like it is time to cut and run and find a better stock someplace else.

Good luck to you guys still holding. I took a 33% loss on this one.

 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Teufelmann:
Sorry guys but I am out. This stock has been a real big dissapointment. Every positive PR and the share price drops. Looks to me like it is time to cut and run and find a better stock someplace else.

Good luck to you guys still holding. I took a 33% loss on this one.


You gotta do what you gotta do, but don't apoligize for it!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
Did they say when they set a new date for the shareholder meeting yet? Last I heard it was postponed for the SEC to clear all the proxy statements and what not.
 
Posted by Meshoe45 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Teufelmann:
Sorry guys but I am out. This stock has been a real big dissapointment. Every positive PR and the share price drops. Looks to me like it is time to cut and run and find a better stock someplace else.

Good luck to you guys still holding. I took a 33% loss on this one.



I apologize to you! for taking the loss - I'm holding dip some more I'll just load up.

 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Today is the day!!!!! (or at least im gonna start saying that everyday.....cause one of these days....It just has to b tru....right????....anybody....right???.....i just......i just....want my money backkkkk!!!!!!!) <sniffle><snifle>

Mama...please tell me everything's gonna b alrite...

*Theres diamonds up in dem hills boy*
 


Posted by sunny on :
 
YOU CRACKED ME UP!!! You are funny---Hoping TSBB is on the move, but market is not looking good today. Oh well. There's always tomorrow!!
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
What the heck and I talking about? I checked the market an hour and a half ago and futures didn't look all that great...now opening bell looks very good. Nasdaq futures look really good... Maybe there's hope for our little TSBB..might get a bump. Go TSBB.
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Thanks.....Sun grrl-eeee....Anytime for a fellow investor....If u need another....just ask....I'll come up with something
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Anybody gotta a nickel to toss at the volume this morning....anything to get his broke-down....busted...hoopty movin...Ha
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slowgothemo73:
Anybody gotta a nickel to toss at the volume this morning....anything to get his broke-down....busted...hoopty movin...Ha


One thing is for sure...the selling has dried up. The mm's are not dropping the ASK, so now it's just a matter of time before they allow it to POP!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
The future is getting brighter
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
I think u two need to clean off ur sunglasses.......interest is waning and so is the balance of my account cause of this stock.....

*Puff, Puff, Pass*
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slowgothemo73:
I think u two need to clean off ur sunglasses.......interest is waning and so is the balance of my account cause of this stock.....

*Puff, Puff, Pass*


Or maybe your vision is blurred and just don't have a clue beause of all the puffin!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Awwww.....look everyone....the platapuss is jealous of the Puffin......leave the Puffin's outta this....Ha....Just mess'n

Shear boredom is my only excuse.....

I gotta give u credit Puss.....I bet u were one hell of a cheeleader in high school....Give me T.....give me an S.......give me a B.....Give me a B....what does that spell........
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slowgothemo73:
Awwww.....look everyone....the platapuss is jealous of the Puffin......leave the Puffin's outta this....Ha....Just mess'n

Shear boredom is my only excuse.....

I gotta give u credit Puss.....I bet u were one hell of a cheeleader in high school....Give me T.....give me an S.......give me a B.....Give me a B....what does that spell........


I gave up the "Puffin" a long time ago...I decided it was time to "Grow up!"

As far as being a cheerleader in Highschool...I think not. I was to busy sleeping from all the "Puffin!"

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman

[This message has been edited by platapuss (edited July 29, 2004).]
 


Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
Nice!
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
Looks like TSBB has inched up a little...I'll take it...
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Up 27%....nice....

Only like a 1000% more.....before i get my money backkkkkk!!!!!!!
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Any L2's......Thanks in advance
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
Patience is the key here...the run is about to happen! <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
Go TSBB!
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
UP TO .003!!!!!

Let the games begin....
 


Posted by sunny on :
 
ohhhhh we're slowly moving up!!!
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Glenn Cummings website if any are interested...
http://www.gccountry.com/
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
A close @ or above .003 is very bullish of things to come. As I said last week, the reversal has begun!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by will on :
 
Sold the balance of my TSBB at .003, had an avg buy of .0033. Will pick it back up if it dips down to .002 /.0021. Was fun, but it never really happened. Bought and sold 125,000 for a loss of $15.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Sold the balance of my TSBB at .003, had an avg buy of .0033. Will pick it back up if it dips down to .002 /.0021. Was fun, but it never really happened. Bought and sold 125,000 for a loss of $15.

I think you should have waited. I know it's been frustrating, but the MM's are about to let this one go again. I actually think a run to .01 is possible again this week...especially if there is some "news with legs." The mm's are definitely in control with this one! <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
well something is happening as the ask is the same as the stock price. Both are at .003

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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
I just wonder since the price for both is the same, does that mean that those mm's guy's are running out of steam. Maybe it just might keep creeping up up up and away. I hop so because after averaging down it needs to hit .004 before I start to show a profit. I am just holding knowing that it will take off and very quick.

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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by will:
Sold the balance of my TSBB at .003, had an avg buy of .0033. Will pick it back up if it dips down to .002 /.0021. Was fun, but it never really happened. Bought and sold 125,000 for a loss of $15.

I'm just curious, how did you sell @ .003 yesterday when the bid never reached that?

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by sunny on :
 
Is this thing starting to run?? I guess I should have bought more at 0022 a couple of weeks ago...still own at 0061 and 0068.
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Moving before the bell......huge!!!!
 
Posted by Anna on :
 
Heads Up! Moving up today!
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Up 17%....finallyyyy
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
Lookee, Lookee, Lookee....TSBB is movin on up!! come on...want to see you back up in the 008-01 mark...This company makes money, is making progress...definitely deserves to be in that range. MM's been having a ball with this stock...they are making money today, that's for sure!
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
I just have a feeling that this is going to be reversal week for TSBB.


Told ya'll!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Feel sorry for all of you were "shaken."

They are movin the bid up on "sells" and "low vol" which tells me this is going to "POP" hard and fast! <IMHO>

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Didnt shake me....Im here until .04

Woo haa....Woo Haa

Hey Puss....can u post any L2's?
 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
BID
3 @ .0034
1 @ .0031
1 @ .003

ASK
2 @ .0036
2 @ .0037
2 @ .0038

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Thanks Boss
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Looks like .0036 is the resistance

Hey Puss.....toss a brother an L2....Thanks
 


Posted by sunny on :
 
Looking real good folks!
 
Posted by WiseTrader on :
 
There may be a substancial PR comming up this week.. this may be what we were all waiting for, long awaited RUN!
 
Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
TS&B Holdings, Inc. Recording Artist Glenn Cummings of Gulf Coast Records Album Released to Stores October 2004
8/5/2004 9:15:00 AM








ORLANDO, Fla., Aug 5, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (TSBB), announced today that Glenn Cummings' (Gulf Coast Records) debut album, BIG, will be in stores October 2004.







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Gulf Coast Records has brought Navarre Corporation (http:/www.navarre.com), a division of Infinity Music Corp. and Infinity Records Nashville on board to serve as the distributor for Glenn's upcoming album release.

"We are very proud to be associated with Gulf Coast Records and the artistry that they have on their label," said George Collier, President-Infinity Records Nashville.

Infinity Music Corp. (Pink Sheets:IFMU) (www.infinitymusiccorp.com) is a St. Augustine, Fla.-based company which was formed through a series of mergers between companies in different areas of entertainment, including record labels, a recording studio, concert management, distribution and a broadcast production company. Since the founding of Navarre in 1983, a base of distribution partnerships has been built along the broad spectrum of leading retailers from the mass merchant, music, computer and office specialty, wholesale club, and military PX channels.

Glenn is currently on a national radio tour promoting his single, "Big." Fans also have a chance to win a Glenn Cummings concert in their hometown as well as other prizes by visiting www.dishmag.com. The contest has been extended to Monday, August 9. For more on Glenn Cummings go to www.gccountry.com.

The CEO of TS&B Holdings Inc., James E. Jenkins stated, "we're very excited about Navarre taking on Glenn's album for distribution through their network. Glenn's radio tour is going exceptionally well and his single, "BIG", hit #71 on MusicRow charting the first week. We look forward to moving upward on the chart over the next few weeks."

About TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings Inc., is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries.

TS&B Holdings Inc. has a financial services subsidiary, TS&B Financial Services, Inc. that provides investment and merchant banking services and strategic planning to both the public and private sectors.


 


Posted by sunny on :
 
TSBB is slowly inching up...must say though, that if it slides back again, I'm going to buy...didn't buy at 0022...should have. Still have mine, which I bought at 0061 and 0068. Not worried...just being patient.
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
Spread looks a heck of a lot better this morning compared to last week!! Excellent!
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
The little train that could......keep chuggin.....woot.....woooo
 
Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
I loved that book...Then it went to a movie...who could ask for more?
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
My favorite color is green!!!!! Lets go....Bump
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
Glenn Cummings has moved from 71 to 65 in just 2 weeks. Obviously people like his music. Not long til he is in the top 10!

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Does any one else feel like crying????

We should start a support group....Ha
 


Posted by lumik on :
 
I am right there with you!!!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Have Glenn write you a country and western tune. "I'm so TSBB'd I Could Cry"
quote:
Originally posted by slowgothemo73:
Does any one else feel like crying????

We should start a support group....Ha



 


Posted by tic_toc on :
 
LOL,

'And this one is for the investment community. Thankyou for all the positive feedback. Uh huh huh.'

quote:
Originally posted by will:
Have Glenn write you a country and western tune. "I'm so TSBB'd I Could Cry"


 


Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
Well volume disappeared.
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BeginnersLuck:
Well volume disappeared.

Yeah....along with my monies tooo!!!!
 


Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
At least we have a hammer on the chart now.
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Ok.....so a money making company doesnt do it......PR's seem to fan the fire out before it starts?????

What will it take!!!!!!!!

Ok....just go to .007 and u can have the rest of my money that I lost.....I just want a lit'le back
 


Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
All I need is a good 2-day run so I can get my money back. Is that too much to ask?...<apparently so!>
 
Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
Just wait till the financials come out.
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Hey luck.....whats our time frame on sumthing like that....sorry....relative newbie
 
Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
No idea. Sometime soon though

 
Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
I hope
 
Posted by golfshop on :
 
And TSBB's jumped from .0036 to .0027 in only 2 days.
quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
Glenn Cummings has moved from 71 to 65 in just 2 weeks. Obviously people like his music. Not long til he is in the top 10!



 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by golfshop:
And TSBB's jumped from .0036 to .0027 in only 2 days.

Yea, so what's your point?

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
Hey we had some green
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
I guess were down to hoping for green....which dont get me wrong is never a bad thing.....but i need a lot of green....to get my green back...Ha

GLTA
 


Posted by stokes on :
 
lots of green is on the way. just hold on and don't sell cheap.
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Who knew Fri the 13th is slowly becoming my fav day....yee hawwww

Mo green!!!
 


Posted by sunny on :
 
What's up with TSBB? Not complaining, we're up! Wondering if someone knows something about their financials coming out? Hey, keep on moving up...this baby should be up around 008-01. JMHO
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
It's Green...It's Green...Give me my money back please! LOL

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
Never Give Up!
 
Posted by stokes on :
 
the only losers today are the sellers. next week will prove my point. this is a strong buy!
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
OK WTF!!!!!!

I walk away for 45 minutes and now were down 10%.....i hate this f*ckn stock
 


Posted by Captain_Nemo on :
 
r/s Monday! get out by today. good luck
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
What are you talking about? Reverse split? Please elaborate...Thanks
 
Posted by Captain_Nemo on :
 
I heard from Ihub! they post there.
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
I thought TSBB cancelled the August meeting...why would they do a reverse split if they are a profitable company like profess to be? They are going to run their stock into the ground if this is true. Doesn't make any sense.
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Can u post the link?
 
Posted by Captain_Nemo on :
 
here is link....www.investorshub.com ...go to BB HEAVEN BOARD!
 
Posted by slowgothemo73 on :
 
Im out!!!!!!!

What a f*ckn joke......No warning....No nothing

Like to see this Jenkins cat in a dark alley somewhere!!!!!
 


Posted by Captain_Nemo on :
 
here is link http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=3802186
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
Thanks Captain! But can you explain what this means...a reverse split is intended to reduce shares or make more shares? Confused. Help anyone?

TSBB was trying to sneak this one in under the radar!
 


Posted by Acherontia styx on :
 
It's meant to reduce shares. They take 40 shares of yours and give back just 1. So divide your shares by 40 and you will see what you will own after Monday.

Maybe they are simply trying to increase the share price by decreasing the O/S, and possibly get noticed. Much optimism there.
 


Posted by sunny on :
 
Thanks. I just looked up official definition on yahoo...too late for me to sell anyway. I'm just going to ride this one out...better or worse...

Regardless of how you look at it, TSBB is produces revenue...money. So, I'll just hang on and see what happens. Think the pps will go back up with the much anticipated financial statements...Also, think something may be cooking if they are trying to do this quietly. JMHO. We'll see. Do wish they had been more forthright!!

Thanks again for everyone helping me get the information (lol).
 


Posted by Captain_Nemo on :
 
I been in lots of r/s stock. Sell now or you will lost everything. NO REGRET PLEASE. I know sell for lost is not easy but reality is you have to sell.
 
Posted by microproty on :
 
R/S on bigger markets is different than on BB.. 9 out of every 10 BB stocks that R/S go down 50-90% the first 3-5 days after the R/S.. You will be alot better taking a loss before the R/S and then buying back after things cool down.. Even after the R/S, the O/S will remain.. Not bashing in any way.. Just trying to help..
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
What a stinker. Just to top this stock off, dumped with reverse split. Aren't we supposed to get 10 days notice or something?
What you reckon platman? This thing still looking bright or have you taken off those sunglasses to put a peg on your nose.
 
Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
I cant find no PR on this, someone full of BS or what??
 
Posted by stockguy123 on :
 
Here is the info from site mentioned above. Does this actually mean the RS is effective on 8/16 or is that just a file date for the split ?

NAME/SYMBOL CHANGES
Updated Date Old Symbol Old Name New Symbol New Name Comment
13:33 08/16/2004 TSBB TS&B Holdings, Inc. Common Stock TSBI TS&B Holdings, Inc. New Common Stock 1-40 R/S **


 


Posted by yes on :
 
Not all reverse splits have been bad. Some have actually worked. Not saying this is the case here, of course. I just called Scottrade and they werent able to verify the reverse split, but I suppose that's hardly surprising seeing as the Nasdaq BB that TSBB is traded on doesnt follow the same rules as say, the NYSE.

Okay I just called the OTCBB number listed at the bottom posted here:
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=08/13/2004&mkt_ctg=OTCBB

I called it to verify that the company had actually sent that info to the site. She sounded like she had just woken up (took like 7-10 rings) and was a bit huffy as if I was questioning the site's veracity (not my intention), but she said, yes, if it's posted there, then the info came from the company.

So apparently, yes, TSBB is doing a reverse split.

I dont have any investment in this one, but I figured you all would like the information. I made some money on this back when it was in the .0050 range, back when the topic was first posted, but I got out, so I really havent been looking at the stock too much...so I have no opinion on how to advise anyone in it...

Hope it works out for you all.

[This message has been edited by Phoenixx (edited August 13, 2004).]
 


Posted by Prdponce on :
 
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_search.asp?DirectSymbol=TSBB&OTCBB=True

New symbol TSBI

Here is the link

[This message has been edited by prdponce (edited August 13, 2004).]
 


Posted by sunny on :
 
Just sold all shares. Lost $563 dollars. To me, that's a lot...know to others it may be pocket change. This sucks, especially since I also took a big hit on that sucky IBZT. (Big sigh).
 
Posted by yes on :
 
Sorry to hear that, Sunny

I got bloodied by IBZT too...after making $1000 in it, it punched me in the face after I bought it again at too high a price..PCCL was another that smashed me for $700 recently...

<stares at the sky>
 


Posted by sunny on :
 
I just did all the math...for me to break even on my TSBB initial investment, after the split, the pps would have to reach .28 cents!!! Like that's gonna happen any time soon! So, took a hit...better than nothing.

I also made good money on IBZT in the beginning...then I bought back in too high...Finally admitted defeat and sold. Lost 800 on that one. Man, I need chocolate!

 


Posted by Captain_Nemo on :
 
I know how you feel guys. I am in MRMN now and i took a huge beating too. Man , dont know what to do now. I still hold it, i lost huge now. We will feel better if we put stocks on the side.
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
Think I know how FL feels...beaten and severely bruised !! Wind-blown and just downright whipped!! Glad it's Friday...feel bad for those who are not aware of what's going on with TSBB...shareholders are gonna be upset once the split happens...I tried the math every which way, trying to find some hope..a better way than just selling at a loss. Couldn't find one. Seriously, just to get back my initial investment, TSBB would have to reach .28 cents. Don't know how TSBB can get away with this sudden move. Beats me...literally!
 
Posted by stokes on :
 
haven't seen anything about a r/s. can someone paste the news on it if it exist?
 
Posted by microproty on :
 
Is anyone here in NMKT? I just found out about it yesterday.. Shows alot of promise.. Just do some DD and see for yourself..
 
Posted by yes on :
 
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dailylist_detail.asp?d=08/13/2004&mkt_ctg=OTCBB

That's the only information that anyone knows about right now, I think...though how something like this slips under the radar of the newswires, (like Yahoo for example) is beyond me..
 


Posted by sunny on :
 
Stokes...scroll back up a few posts...several people posted the link...It's in black and white! Sucks big time.
 
Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
Well if this true, this might be a rare exception as a r/s that is for the good.
This company has to much going for it.
Maybe the PR that will come out will be good news. Who knows?
Im still getting over VRMD.
 
Posted by stokes on :
 
thanks, i saw the links, but they don't go anywhere. there's nothing on the sites that i can find. if you could paste the news, i would appreciate it very much. tia
 
Posted by yes on :
 
Well, if you use Scottrade, it shows up on your javascript trading screen. Right click the stock in the list, hit "Show Fundamentals for TSBB", choose "Splits" and there it is...40 to 1, August 16th.

EDIT: What gets me is why the guy I called at Scottrade didnt know anything about it...heck it comes up on the trading screen! Why wouldnt they know? The mind boggles. Maybe inadequately trained employees...

[This message has been edited by Phoenixx (edited August 13, 2004).]
 


Posted by glassman on :
 
I am not in this one, but i did notice the drop so i looked it up.....
this PR doesn't show up anywhere else that i use. I have to say the this site that you posted the link to has provided me with UNRELIABLE data in the past, but only in the area of the share counts, not on PR... good luck.
 
Posted by RobinO on :
 
Wow. Page 1 of this thread is a good read

-R

 


Posted by lumik on :
 
Being green I don't have a clue as to what's going on concerning these r/s moves.When they do a r/s is there some sort of formula that's used to come up with the new stock price? And if so what will the new price be Mon. morning? Like a dummy I put most of my money into TSBB and hopfully I can recoop some Mon. morning if the price is up for a while. Good luck to those in my shoes!!!
 
Posted by tic_toc on :
 
I havn't lost loads, but its still a big loss percentage wise. from my 200 dollars at around .0058 if I sell now I get 50 back. change that into sterling and I have £27. minus TD waterhouse's extornationate fees, I would be left with £10. pointless selling really. I'm gonna ride this out. Let you all know when it makes me a millionaire.
platman , only joking you, hope you know that
 
Posted by yes on :
 
Whatever the ratio of the split, that is what the price will change by as well. You'll have 1 share of the stock for every 40 shares you have now. So the price will jump by a factor of 40 as well, which would make it 6 cents a share. (.0015 x 40)
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
Well all I have to say is that this was a total scam! I am still not selling, I will just have to lose all my money in this before I sell at a loss. JJ is a crook! I must say, I had this one all wrong. Oh well! TSBB to the moon...LOL!

------------------
My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by yes on :
 
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040813/135329_1.html

There it is...looks official. There's also a nice little phone number at the bottom that all the shareholders can call and express their displeasure...

Press Release Source: TS&B Holdings Inc.


TS&B Holdings, Inc. Announces Reverse Split
Friday August 13, 4:05 pm ET


ORLANDO, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 13, 2004--TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (OTCBB:TSBB - News) filed an 8K disclosing a 40 to 1 reverse split of the common stock of Company.
The corporate secretary of TS&B Holdings Inc., Charles Giannetto, stated: "We filed with NASD for a 40 to 1 reverse split of the common stock. The approval from NASD is effective Monday."

About TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings, Inc. is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries.

TS&B Holdings Inc. has a financial services subsidiary, TS&B Financial Services, Inc., that provides investment and merchant banking services and strategic planning to both the public and private sectors.

Safe Harbor

The statements made in this release constitute "forward-looking" statements, usually containing the words "believe," "estimate," "project," "expect," or similar expressions. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, changing economic conditions, interest rates trends, continued acceptance of the Company's products in the marketplace, competitive factors and other risks detailed in the Company's periodic report Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this release.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Contact:
TS&B Holdings Inc., Orlando
C. Giannetto, 407/649-8325


[This message has been edited by Phoenixx (edited August 13, 2004).]
 


Posted by Captain_Nemo on :
 
Even i dont own TSBB, i am very glad that you guy get out before pr release afterhour. Not easy to swallow but there are lots of good stock out there that you can cover this lost. good luck to you guys.
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
If TSBB executives are trying to build a reputable and trustworthy company, then they are morons. True morons...they release the pr after hours on Friday and the split goes into effect Monday. That is cowardly and unethical.

Loathsome people who do not deserve our money or trust.
 


Posted by Zeker on :
 
Can you say AFRT II (the sequel)? What a pathetic cracker jack company. I can't believe that I held this piece of crap through .01- I should have dumped my shares when they started whining about the Berlin exchange instead of focusing inward on their own shortcomings. Now I'm just waiting for their CEO to say "We should be trading at $20.00 but the Singapore Exchange is whiping us out on shorts". I just don't understand what they are attempting to achieve by R/Sing us at these levels, other than to be able to dump a bunch of post-split shares on the market at a later time. If anyone can think of another reason for pulling a R/S, other than to bring the PPS to a level considered to be the minimal requirement to keep it on a certain exchange (such as Nasdaq's minimum, which is definitely not a factor with this stock), please let me know.
 
Posted by stockguy123 on :
 
Talk about a low ball play, an RS pr after the bell effective on Monday. This is worse than the VRMD/VRMV mess. At least you had 1 day trading notice to get out before that split. TSBB is effective Monday.

Monday is really going to be a blood bath.
 


Posted by Captain_Nemo on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy123:
Talk about a low ball play, an RS pr after the bell effective on Monday. This is worse than the VRMD/VRMV mess. At least you had 1 day trading notice to get out before that split. TSBB is effective Monday.

Monday is really going to be a blood bath.


You cant trade at this pps on Monday. Monday will be a brand new company and you will have less shares if you didnt sell today. If you didnt sell today, i believe your money is gone for goods.


 


Posted by Acherontia styx on :
 
I'm just curious, is anyone going to contact the company and voice your anger? Perhaps someone already has? It would be interesting to see if they respond.
 
Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
Jenkins and his band of creeps are probably somewhere in the Caribbean with those scum-bags from VRMD.
Im starting a rumour...........Jenkins and Duffy alone on some deserted beach making LOVE. Laughing at all the suckers in North America.
Bet the two fags buy into QBID.
JMO
 
Posted by Zeker on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Acherontia styx:
I'm just curious, is anyone going to contact the company and voice your anger? Perhaps someone already has? It would be interesting to see if they respond.

Definitely- many of their companies' operations are run not far from where I live, and I know that they have a bit of a following up in Hudson (Fl.): I'm going to be all over this one for some time. But I guess JE(rko)FF Jenkins was right about one thing: this one should be trading at a nickel- that is, after a huge reverse split. Nonetheless, he told us months ago that it was worth that much BEFORE the R/S, and as a local boy, I'm going to hold him to those words- one way or another.
Basically what he is now saying, is that since the MM's and (supposedly) the Berlin Exchange were screwing him, now he's gonna screw us. I don't lay down for any man.

[This message has been edited by Zeker (edited August 13, 2004).]
 


Posted by BizSoft on :
 
I seems to be a magnet for R/S stocks, I have been dealing with Penny Stock pnly 3 months with $5.3 K. and in these three months I have had GFYI, LSTA and now TSBB R/S. I have already lost 1.5k on these three, value price so low, i cannot recover anything, best to hold on.

Bad luck, I shoud do more DD
 


Posted by nutrader on :
 
where is Sgt. At Arms? He had reported some conversations with Jenkins who gave some good forward reports. Jenkins phone number is 918-392-0336.
 
Posted by BeginnersLuck on :
 
WHO DOES THAT!? Honestly
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
I am equally as disgusted by this low down, cowardly maneuver...sold at a loss this afternoon...But Bigrod40, I just read your post about starting the rumour of them at the beach...OMG! Laughed out loud...needed that...and then I immediately thought of our QBID!! Oh well. Right now, I've taken huge, hard hits on this crap and IBZT (who would've thought?)...once I'm out of QBID, think I'm done with pinks--lost too much money and faith in budding companies! (LOL)

Thanks for the laugh though. I really needed it. Hope everyone has a nice weekend.
 


Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
Your welcome Sunny,
I feel the same way as you, but those dam pinks keep perking my interest.
Im hoping Ibzt becomes a winner. Im stuck in it as well.
I still have high hopes for BTOR, will know more about them after AGM on the 20th.
Thats a big day for alot of pinkies (CMKX as well)
Oh well have a good weekend.
P.S. Latest rumour on Jenkins and Duffy. They are stuck together, but I cant tell you how they are stuck together. You can guess, and I bet your right, knowing they are both FUDGE-PACKERS...hehehe
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
Howl of laughter from TX, Bigrod40! OMG! I'm doubled over from laughing so hard...making or finding fudge in the Carribean...HMMMM. Sounds like a Q Mobile moment. Like to have that on film! But, you know, QTN is a family friendly channel...so we would need do some creative explaining to the children!(LOL)
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
Biogrod...you have a hose to spray 'em down with? Heard when this happens to dogs, hosing 'em down helps break it up...Far as I'm concerned, TSBB execs are dogs!
 
Posted by will on :
 
Here's the transaction record, cut and pasted, unedited save my transaction# :
08/02/2004 XXXXXXXXXXXX Sold TSBB 50,000 0.003 150.00 - - 0.01 - 149.99
Sorry you found it necessary to doubt me, check 8/2/04 again. Believe me, I didn't doctor the order you're looking at.

quote:
Originally posted by platapuss:
I'm just curious, how did you sell @ .003 yesterday when the bid never reached that?



 


Posted by WiseTrader on :
 
This cant be legal for a company to actually pull a r/s friday after the bell to be in affect monday.. This is a call for some legal action to the company! Anyone with me?
 
Posted by Acherontia styx on :
 
Whether there are rules set in place or not, you would think that some legal action could take place. I'll have a look around and see what's out there.
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
When my husband found out what happened with TSBB, he thought the r/s afterhours and going into a weekend was illegal...I honestly don't know if it is or not...I DO know that it is hightly unethical, unprofessional, cowardly and disrespectful towards its shareholders. Possibly illegal?

Still ticked about that entire mess!


 


Posted by SmokingUSA on :
 
Well, I'm about wiped out from this year!
Four bad moves was all it took for me!
MASG
GMZP (gmzc)
GWAD (GWDL)
TSBB
I'm going back to flags and taking short profits. You guys take care, I'm still
In SHOCK about TSBB, I never seen this one comming!!!!

 
Posted by sherry on :
 
I will hold till I die if I have too!
Sooner or later it has to rise in ppr.
 
Posted by stokes on :
 
from .0036 down to .0013 friday, maybe the sell off is over. it'll have to go up almost 300% to make up for this one day loss. i'm sorry everyone went through this bad time, but i still feel positive about the co's potential. this split should make the price target in the range of $.70 to $1.00 according to co statements. i feel like some very good news is on the way to validate this outlook. good luck to everyone.
 
Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
Log in to site....Type in IBZT under ticker search.....comes up with one finding.....click on it and listen..
Hopefully this works for you..

Rod
 


Posted by stokes on :
 
i've been in ibzt before. it's interesting, but i am very leary of the sec investigation. i think in the long term, tsbb will be a safer play.
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
Where did you see these target prices? I haven't seen these numbers before. Thanks.

Not too impressed with TSBB. Thinking that if they can be under-handed on r/s... thinking they will lie and manipulate again. Don't have a lot of confidence in this company. Not bashing. Speaking from experience, their history, and from the fact that I lost big here on Friday.
 


Posted by sunny on :
 
Does TSBB have a new ticker symbol? If so, can someone let me know what it is...thanks!
 
Posted by CuriousBull on :
 
TSBI
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
Does TSBB have a new ticker symbol? If so, can someone let me know what it is...thanks!


 


Posted by sunny on :
 
Thanks!
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
Should we start a TSBI thread or keep all info on the TSBB sight...kind of think we need a new thread...thoughts?
 
Posted by yes on :
 
Yes, it should be called TSBI: The Big Lie
 
Posted by WiseTrader on :
 
What to do.. from $7,000 investment down to $578 guess i'll have to stick with it.. and wait with alot of patience. In the mean time Im lookin for some legal action against Jenkins

 
Posted by sunny on :
 
Certainly doesn't look like anyone is buying this new TSBI...Ask is 05 and no one is jumping in...smart, folks. Think this one will drop...before it soars to .70 (note the sarcasm)...TSBI execs are a bunch of dumb-dumbs.
 
Posted by yes on :
 
Ouch
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
WiseTrader...sorry to hear that...I sold Friday afternoon and lost a lot too.. Not as much as you, but enough to feel sick at my stomach!! Yuck. Good luck to you.
 
Posted by WiseTrader on :
 
I tried calling that number posted above, but it asks for a mailbox #..

Any other way to reach him? How do we contact the company..

We all need to report this to the SEC for serious investigation.. they cant do this to shareholders, how can this be legal? What can be done?
 


Posted by sunny on :
 
Sorry Phoenixx...usually a very positive and optimistic person...so enough of my complaining and moaning. Gonna be happy and enjoy this beautiful day. (lol)
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
Wisetrader, I honestly don't know if this is legal or not...may be worth complaining to the SEC though.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
Did anyone using Ameritrade get hit with a $20 mandatory fee due to the symbol change?
 
Posted by nutrader on :
 
I have Ameritrade and I got a -20.00 debit
 
Posted by WiseTrader on :
 
I found out the number from etrade,
407-649-8325 ... its not ringing.

Also check www.tsbfinancial.com

If anyone can find out how to file complaints to the SEC please let us know so we can get this company investigated and get back at Jenkins.
 


Posted by stokes on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sunny:
Where did you see these target prices? I haven't seen these numbers before. Thanks.

Not too impressed with TSBB. Thinking that if they can be under-handed on r/s... thinking they will lie and manipulate again. Don't have a lot of confidence in this company. Not bashing. Speaking from experience, their history, and from the fact that I lost big here on Friday.



 


Posted by stokes on :
 
we are unable to pull up past news on the target price due to the symbol change. however, i believe that when tsbb was trading in the range of .08-.09, that the price target was announced at .06-.10. using that ratio, the current price target based on a price of .039 should be $1.56 or more if they adhere to their previous guidance. maybe they will reaffirm their guidance to give confidence to investors. they need to do something.
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
Thanks Stokes...appreciate the information and explanation! The TSBB execs made this company look really dirty...in need of a good bleach-bath (LOL)
 
Posted by WiseTrader on :
 
Well the company has already lost its reputation for their dirty work, you think people want to buy into these lieing loosers? What they did to shareholders by announcing R/S after the bell on friday, and in effect monday has killed any investor confidence! Maybe in a few years when people forget what happened, and they start posting more off the wall PRs, they will do the same thing.. the trick is to get new investors who have no clue.. I got suckered in and bought since .017.. had over 16 Grand invested into this
 
Posted by WiseTrader on :
 
Now down to less than $600 .. can anyone deal with that? Im rounding up many investors who lost, so we can get the SEC to investigate this b/s of a company!
 
Posted by nutrader on :
 
Reply to Wisetrader---Here are most of the key addresses you'll need to voice your opinions/complaint about the reverse split (remove the spaces in the addresses):

Charles Giannetto: cgiannetto @ tsbfinancial. com

Jim Jenkins: jjenkins @ tsbfinancial. com

Ray Larson: honeycuttcapital @ hotmail. com

SEC violations of security laws: enforcement @ sec. gov

Other SEC tips and complaints information can be found at:
http://www.sec.gov/complaint.shtml

Maybe this will be a start. Check Raging Bull TSBB message board for lots more info.


 


Posted by platapuss on :
 
Trying to look on the bright side of things and inject a little hope here, with the float so low now, around 12.5 mil, any substantial news could really move this upwards.
 
Posted by RobinO on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zeker:
Nonetheless, he told us months ago that it was worth that much BEFORE the R/S, and as a local boy, I'm going to hold him to those words- one way or another.

I'm sorry everyone got screwed on this one, but if you ask me, the writing was on the wall from the very beginning. A CEO who complains about short sellers and German traders affecting their share price is obviously a moron and out to scam people. A competent CEO simply doesn't release a PR saying "we're worth more.. really!" Anyone who read that PR from the first page and bought into it got suckered. It's unfortunate that you had to learn this the hard way, but take it as a lesson learned and try not to be so credulous the next time around. This one was visible from miles away...

-R


 


Posted by WiseTrader on :
 
Its too late, this stock is worthless, they disconnected their phone, CEO bailed after clearing out all the money from the shareholders today. This will not be forgotten for a long time! The process of reports sent to the SEC by the investors will be a call out to investigate.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by nutrader:
I have Ameritrade and I got a -20.00 debit

Just in case anyone is curious as to why Ameritrade charges a $20 fee:

Thank you for contacting us today regarding the Mandatory Reorganization fee.

Mandatory Reorganization fees are charged when there is a reverse stock split, a mandatory cash merger, and on some types of share exchanges where stockholders have no choice in the reorganization (it is mandated by the issuer for all outstanding shares). An example would be company mergers or acquisitions. Where these actions are not open market transactions, they will require Ameritrade to re-register the affected stock under a new CUSIP via manual entries on your account. This fee is charged to cover the cost to Ameritrade to re-register the stock and to facilitate the reorganization in your account. This fee is not built into the commission structure and is $20.

This fee is listed on the Fee Schedule in the Trading Account Handbook under the heading "Reorganization Items."

If you have further concerns or inquiries, please reply to this message.

Sincerely,

Sonya Duerr
Client Services, Ameritrade
Division of Ameritrade, Inc.



 


Posted by mainstay on :
 
NEWS

Press Release Source: TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings, Inc. Capital Restructuring Underway and Symbol Change and Updates
Monday August 16, 4:05 pm ET

ORLANDO, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 16, 2004--TS&B Holdings, Inc. ("Company" or "TS&B") (OTCBB:TSBI - News), capital restructuring is underway, consisting of:

* 40 to 1 reverse split
* Recently completed $250,000 funding via a Debenture
* Additional offerings and fund raising planned
* $25 Million PPM drafted for funding acquisitions

The CEO of TS&B, Jim Jenkins stated, "The reverse of the common shares was crucial to create and maintain a sensible capital structure. The bridge loan and additional offerings will fund the Company's business plan. Management continues to believe in its BDC business plan and will continue to improve the performance of current portfolio companies and raise capital to acquire operational companies."

James Sadrianna, the CFO of TS&B stated, "With the addition of Cummings Financial, the market value of the Company will increase the Company's net earrings before taxes substantially over the last quarter net earnings of $474,000."

For those with questions about the effect of a reverse split, the Company refers shareholders and investors to the SEC website at http://www.sec.gov/answers/reversesplit.htm

Further, the Company did not request a symbol change and apparently this was done unilaterally by NASD. An investigation is underway by the Company regarding this matter. Management believes there are some shareholders that are not aware of the symbol change and those shareholders believe they have lost their investment.

Lastly, the Company has not received approval from the SEC for its Proxy Statement.

About TS&B Holdings Inc.

TS&B Holdings Inc., is a Business Development Company under the Investment Act of 1940 aggressively seeking opportunities in emerging and fast growth industries.

TS&B Holdings Inc. has a financial services subsidiary, TS&B Financial Services, Inc. that provides investment and merchant banking services and strategic planning to both the public and private sectors.

Safe Harbor

The statements made in this release constitute "forward-looking" statements, usually containing the words "believe," "estimate," "project," "expect," or similar expressions. These statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Factors that would cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, changing economic conditions, interest rates trends, continued acceptance of the Company's products in the marketplace, competitive factors and other risks detailed in the Company's periodic report Filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. By making these forward-looking statements, the Company undertakes no obligation to update these statements for revisions or changes after the date of this release.
Contact:

For TS&B Holdings Inc., Orlando
Warren White, 386-216-5248 (temporary phone)
Fec2010 @ yahoo .com

 


Posted by mainstay on :
 
And it appears that someone over on the RB boards caught one of the pumpers here and there as being the same person who issued this press release. warrenwh1 = Warren White. I believe lawsuits are now in order.
 
Posted by bjay22 on :
 
Well if you look back to July 7, there is a Warrenwhl with a post where he see signs of a "possible breakout...". Damn, that makes me mad.
 
Posted by nutrader on :
 
Take a look at this one from Warrenwh1 on Raging Bull "Where is Warren? In the below post-which he said was his last- he said

By: warrenwh1
29 Jul 2004, 12:58 PM EDT
Msg. 7726 of 8175
Jump to msg. #
My final post on TSBB.

Fellow TSBB investors: As I mentioned in post #6879, I had referred a friend to TSBB as a possible acquisition candidate. Since that post, I have referred another 2 companies to TSBB for possible acquisition and/or investment and synergistic relationships.

In a meeting I attended with my friend yesterday at TSBB, we sat around a conference table with CEO Jim Jenkins, CLO Charles Giannetto, CFO James Sadrianna and discussed some particulars of the possible transactions. Therefore, I believe, and it is their belief also, that my level of information breaks a certain threshold, and posting would be pressing SEC regulations.

I will tell you that I had the opportunity to meet Glenn Cummings and his wife Paula. Glenn graciously thanked me for my support (one of the DJ’s had called and read him my e-mail). I found him and his wife to be of the highest caliber, and I will ask you to continue pulling for him. These are the kind of people you want to see have success. He would handle fame really well, and is comfortable in his own skin. He has a star quality about him. Jeanne and I look forward to seeing him perform sometime.

I am limited to what I can say, but let me conclude this way:

It is interesting to see animosity from certain members of this board on the one hand, and then walk in and participate in a meeting that went several hours that is so demonstrative of a sincere effort to build TSBB. I was there a total of about 4 hours.

My friends here who are solid longs (and you know who you are), best of luck! Sometimes the long view is the best view!

The management of TSBB clearly wants to make significant progress for shareholders while working within certain limitations. I am impressed by what I saw there, and time will tell if their efforts to build this BDC will pay off.

Good luck to each and every long! ""


 


Posted by bjay22 on :
 
Here he is over at the Ihub site-

Posted by: warrenwh1
In reply to: None
Date:7/7/2004 1:06:35 PM
Post #of 207

This will be the best ride in the city. It's just a matter of when. Loaded up low. Saddled up and ready.

---------------
YES WARREN - I TOO, SADDLED UP AND RODE, ALL THE WAY TO THE POOR HOUSE! LOL - how stupid can you be - signing your name onto a PR after pumping it to the heavens on every board in site.
 


Posted by sunny on :
 
I like the part of the press release that says some shareholders think that they lost their money because of the symbol change...Well guess what you executive morons, "We did lose are money--symbol change or not!" Idiots.

I thought paid pumping was illegal. Is it? This Warren works for TSBB? Illegal?
 


Posted by Bigrod40 on :
 
For anyone interested, here is a response from the company for the letter that I sent them.

Dear Mr. **********

Thank you for your interest in TS&B Holdings. I look forward to speaking with you by phone in the near future.

Due to time constraints tonight, in part due to hurricane Charley, I must send the same e-mail to everyone who has inquired about the recent restructuring and today's press release.

The company believes that the restructuring will be of benefit to all shareholders, including those who have been with the company for an extended period of time.

I hope you noted that today's press release contained earnings results from the company's 2nd quarter. TSBI earned approximately $474,000 for the quarter, or $.04 per share.

In addition, the company currently has a net asset value of at least $.14 per share, which could improve once full year-end numbers are reported. This figure is obtained by adding the 1st quarter's reported $1.3 million net asset value and the $474,000, and by dividing that sum by the current number of outstanding shares - 12.5 million.

Management intends to build a very substantial company, and the restructuring was a strategically important and necessary step. For those who wish to base their investment decisions on either fundamentals or trends, the company has clearly put two excellent quarters together.

I should remind investors that the net asset value of the company was a negative $250,000 on January 1, 2004. While the price was $.02 or $.03 (pre-R/S of course) during that period, those prices could not be supported by fundamentals. Now the company presents a solid net asset value for consideration, as well as its best quarter of earnings. It is ironic that many TSBI investors have totally overlooked the giant steps forward taken by the company, and have focused on a trader's market that would seem to greatly undervalue the company's true condition.

Sooner or later, the market for TSBI will begin to reflect the current value of the company, and investors will begin to analyze the company based on reason, and not emotion. That moment will be another step in the transformation of TSBI to a progressive, motivated Business Development Company (BDC).

I believe TSBI's registration as a BDC on January 5th of this year, has also been overlooked by investors. This special designation under the Investment Act of 1940, permits the company to build in ways most advantageous for shareholders. I have a 4-page newsletter that provides many details of the BDC status, and will be happy to forward it to you upon your request. Once shareholders understand the finer points of life as a BDC, I believe there will be a better understanding of why management chose such a course earlier this year, and why they are share continued optimism about the future of the company.

I welcome your calls to discuss any TSBI topics, including valuation issues. You can reach me at 386-216-5248. I have a meeting tomorrow from 9:15AM EST until approximately 2PM, but otherwise will be available to shareholders any day this week and thereafter. If you reach voicemail, there's a good chance I am discussing TSBI with someone else, and I assure you I will get back to you as soon as possible.

Sincerely,

Warren White

 


Posted by sunny on :
 
Did you tell him that everyone is aware that he is a lying sack of poop and that everyone knows he was a PUMPER!!! Can we all say manipulator?
 
Posted by RobinO on :
 
Funny how everyone hypes and pumps a stock for months and months, but as soon as it's exposed for the fraud it is, it drops off the face of the earth. This thread went to page 3 within a day or two. I think a bit of post-op analysis is in order so that the gullible types can examine what exactly happened here so they don't make the same mistake again. Waiting for this to happen to CMKX next. Shouldn't be too long..

-R
 


Posted by sunny on :
 
I think this stock was manipulated from the inside...execs probably knew that were going to do r/s a while ago, which is why the stock, for no apparent reason, began to decline in value...even while TSBB put out positive press releases. I think there was inside selling well before the announcements (look at charts and info formally released.)

Think its a damn shame that Martha Stewart is going to jail for the 50,000 she saved by selling her Imclone shares...when companies do it everyday! TSBB being a prime example...shameful practice...TSBB didn't even notify its investors until Friday, after the closing bell of the r/s. No one could sell if they didn't know what was going on. Must have been a shock to find out about the r/s when people arrived home from work.

TSBB disgusts me. No, I'm not a basher...I sold Friday afternoon, before the release...lost almost $600 (I'm not independently wealthy, so $600 is a lot for to lose)...and based on the current pps, I would have lost even more had I held TSBB.

This is my perspective. Take it or leave it...written from my bad experience with this stock.

Must say that there is an inherent risk to buying pennies...so be careful where you put your money. Do your research...but even sometimes that's not enough. TSBB makes money, appears very viable...just happens to be run by cowards and manipulators, who take their shareholders money. I hope the SEC investigates them while they are looking into IBZT!
 


Posted by lumik on :
 
Sunny; I lost just about everything I started with on these r/s moves, first one was GWAD, then TSBB, and now LSTA, I am a rookie, very, very, green. I paper traded until I was confident enough, but I wasn't prepared for these infernal r/s luckily I had quite a few TSX-V.NAU shares which will in the next week or so on the much expected drill report explode to imo. $1.00-$2.00 this will re-coop my loses, is there anyway to reduce the r/s risk? Check out NAU I think you'll be happy you did. Just remove the spaces. http://www. northamgold . com GLTY.
Mike
 
Posted by sunny on :
 
Thanks Lumik! Appreciate the info.!
 
Posted by RobinO on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lumik:
is there anyway to reduce the r/s risk?

Call me cynical, but I think your best bet for managing risk is to assume that 95% of the companies trading on pink sheets are worthless (maybe not to the level of outright fraud, but those certainly exist too). With that in mind, your best bet is to get in and out quickly once someone starts the pump. Those who got into TSBB once this thread started made a quick buck if they sold a few weeks later when it shot up. Same thing with CMKX, QBID, IBZT, and all the other over-hyped stocks here. Those who "believe" in these companies and go long are the ones left holding the bag once the truth comes out and everyone else bails.

I also highly recommend reading this handy bit of info right on the Allstocks board: http://www.allstocks.com/copia/html/the_basics_of_otcbb.html ... In addition, a healthy dose of skepticism for what you read here and a more critical look at company PRs. For instance, instead of assuming that these companies are out to provide a service and help little old ladies across the street, assume that they're scammers out to take your money. Read their PRs with that in mind and try to dissect what's being said. The PR that started this thread practically said "we are scammers.. give us your money" but people bought in anyway, because they assumed these were honest guys. Assume the worst, and you'll do a much better job of protecting yourself from this sort of thing.

Hope your future trading goes better than it has been.. :^/

-R
 


Posted by sunny on :
 
RobinO...I have to agree with you on this. I have learned my lesson about buying when the pps is already high on hype...IBZT, WEL, TSBB...won't do that again...I also bought as a newbie when CDVJ was at its peak....now it is low again and I'm doing the smart thing... I buy very low, keep a watchful eye on my stock and wait a bit for the new move upwards. I won't buy high...won't be greedy... and I will not encourage others to buy a stock at its high either.

Thanks for the advice RobinO...need more posters like you who are not bashing or pumping, just being objective. Thanks.

Have a great day.
 


Posted by silver70 on :
 
Like Lumik I too got fleeced by TSBB, and GWDL. Maybe a board could be started for posting these SPLITTERS AND GITTERS. One place to find out who to watch with a careful eye. Just a thought. I am a new invester and know not how to set up a board for that.
 
Posted by platapuss on :
 
I will say my lesson has been learned as far as trusting what PR's say about penny stocks. But I am still holding this one. I saw no reason to sell what I had for such a big loss. So I am going to hold out to see what happens.

I will say technicals don't mean a hill on beans here in penny land. I really did think that when it hit .01 that first time that it would continue on into the next day. That was the reason I didn't sell back then. Boy was I wrong!

So on that note...TSBI to the mooooon! LOL.

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My future so bright...I gotta wear shades!

The Platman
 


Posted by lumik on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by silver70:
Like Lumik I too got fleeced by TSBB, and GWDL. Maybe a board could be started for posting these SPLITTERS AND GITTERS. One place to find out who to watch with a careful eye. Just a thought. I am a new invester and know not how to set up a board for that.


 


Posted by lumik on :
 
Silver70; Your Idea to make a page revealing companys that repeat r/s is a damm good one I hope someone with a little more experience develops one for us. Maybe this will save us a few bucks. Like yourself I am unexperienced but I am learning, and what an awesome site to learn from.

quote:
Originally posted by silver70:
Like Lumik I too got fleeced by TSBB, and GWDL. Maybe a board could be started for posting these SPLITTERS AND GITTERS. One place to find out who to watch with a careful eye. Just a thought. I am a new invester and know not how to set up a board for that.


 


Posted by Sgt. of ARMS on :
 
Well what do you know. All of a sudden TSBI jumped up .012 and no one has anything to say. WHY NOT.

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This is the Sgt. of ARMS saying good day and GOD BLESS all.
 


Posted by sunny on :
 
I don't know about anyone else, but, uhh, even with this miniscule increase, had I held my shares I would still be down 80% right now. I held on to more money by selling at 0015 than I would have had I held.

of course, other situations may be different, but that's mine.


 


Posted by tstruck02 on :
 
I would have joined you all before but I had password problems.

I started with 10,000 shares and now have a whopping 250 shares. I sure never saw this one coming. It wasn't a huge loss for me but it was still painful.

I'm new at the game and was starting with a small amount of money. The ones that supposed to make me money failed me and the ones that are supposed to be scams made me money. Ahhh now I see how it works lol

TS
 




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