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Bart These threads are all about you and your monster I ran the search on ALLSTOCKS search system----I used IBZT in the subject and your name --i guess now you are dissing the providers of the board----My point is this BART you talked about ME,MY WIFE,and MY KIDS--i have never said a thing negative about you other than that you remind me of a famous cartoon character and i was not rude- I have tried to help you be a better salesman Bart and you just don't want to improve yourself do you?-......--And you have sworn over and over again not to respond to me or PG and yet you do over and over again--I am not going to run a search thru all of your slobberring over this thing just to pull all of your discrepancies--they are there and you and i both know it---i trade succesfully bart---i know i do and that's all that counts--i try to help other people with advice-- you seem to be focused on some hungry monster LOL
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This bulletin board have too many limitations on links and stuffs. I just bought a domain and server at premarketstocks . com and will put up a bulletin board in 1 or 2 days at that page. Ya'll guys are always welcome to come and argue =)
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Ok you guys. I have been to a lot of message boards and this seems to be the only one with credible things. So let's not turn this into a petty fight. Both PG and Bart have good comments.
IBZT history hasn't been good, and it will be really tough to get out of the hole. If they can do it great, but if they cannot there could be a bankrupcy. And when PG said there has been Dilusion no one can deni that. You've seen the prices latly.
But IBZT has also gotten more media attention for a penny stock then any other I've ever seen. It is amazing. IF the products (vkb, blue dock) work well. THis company could be very successful. But if they are poor quality, then we have a problem.
My GUESS is that IBZT will go up very slowly but surly with repeated PR's of retailers getting on board. Then when the next 10k comes out we'll see how many sales we get. (2003 their sales rose 36%) But also remember no one ever said they were expecting to get 100000 sales a month. That is just how many they can get. 100000 sales a month will NEVER happen. Their has only been 100000 pre-sales for mini iPod's you are telling me that the VKB is more known then mini iPods?
OH well I'll quote Bright Eyes for my outlook on IBZT "Hope for the best, Plan for the worse, and wind up somewhere in the middle.
quote:Originally posted by tbob: Purl Gurl...I need profits..help :-)
TBOB check out free 4all once in awhile-- she has a few goodies up there--remember nobody is perfect--LOL and if you can daytrade- dardadog is here almost every morning with the REAL thing at the bell--LOL
We've got a really good thing going on here at AllStocks People REALLY trying to help each other - unlike most other boards.
Let's not turn this into a RB atmosphere. All are entitled to their opinion, but if you're pushing an issue, please back it up with DD and FACTS.
I've been here since last summer and love this board, BECAUSE most people are usually civil with each other. There was a big spat involving 2 GOOD people, and they both left. That was unfortunate. Then some idiots started dumping on one of the most knowledgeable and helpful people on Allstocks (I called him the Patriarch of AllStocks), and HE got sick of their BS and left, but has come back on a limited basis. It was sad that we lost 3 EXCELLENT posters - who knew how to due their DD.
We all have different and interesting personalities - and that's a good thing. But let's try and stay civil, and if someone pushes the envelope a little too much, ignore them. Plain and simple. (I'm not talking about the 2 jokers who got banned from here for their vulgar and sacraligious behavior ont he QBID thread last week - THEY don't qualify as humans).
Keep it lite and lively! We all want some fun as well as all the DD many of us put in.
May all your Buys be "Good Buys"! Steve
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oil. they still owe the sec the q4 03 10qsb. their fiscal year on the 10ksb was oct 31. there is allot more forthcoming. i'm not exactly thrilled with the 10ksb. the fact that shilling ans perkins hold 25% of the 2.1 b os and award themselves such lavish retention bonuses while the os count continues to climb isn't my idea of executives struggling to increase shareholder value. any predictions before we have the whole picture and the keyboards are shipping and a success is pure speculation imho. but then, what the heck do i know?
U.S. SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION WASHINGTON, D.C. 20549
FORM 10-KSB
ANNUAL REPORT PURSUANT TO SECTION 13 OR 15(d) OF THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934
FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDED OCTOBER 31, 2003.
uncle milty
quote:Originally posted by OilMan: We still do not have enough info to determine the current enterprise value due to lack of info on Synosphere and the value of the VKB global license, pending this info or Q1 2004 report it is all a crapshoot.
Posts: 1081 | From: santa fe, new mexico/puerto vallarta, mexico | Registered: Sep 2003
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i agree with the way facts are "put to rest" here glass. it seems to be getting harder and harder to introduce information that might be perceived in a negative way on some of these threads. there are new names and claims to fame popping up by the dozens per week. i bought and sold myself into the position of being able to wait with free shares. and i feel there has been a tremendous amount of baseless extrapolation and speculation with ibzt future share price. and now with the 10ksb sitting in plain view, not many have specific comments. if anyone finds out the details to the vkb license, PLEASE let us know.
uncle milty
quote:Originally posted by glassman: I'm beginning to wonder what some of you think DD is---there is daytrading DD and there is swing trading DD and there is investment DD-----I am seeing mostly pump DD on this thread----I don't mind it at all but when you start calling one of the brightest posters on the board a liar you obviously are not interested in facts- i have browsed through these threads many times and LAUGHED at this situation-- PG will buy this if and when the time is right ---as will I---and we both will most likely let you know as soon as we do----I don't really have the time to go pull all of the lies and post them cuz there are so many--and it probly wouldn't matter much cuz the perps keep doing it over and over again anyway --but that doesn't mean I have to sit back and let it go by without comment LOL
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Over the past weeks, I've seen some good analysis on these threads and also some wishful thinking. However, now this seems to be the forum for bashing each other - replete with name-calling etc. If you want to bash the Monster, fine - she's more than capable of taking the abuse. However, let's refrain from bashing one another. And as always, EAT Monster EAT!!!
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the longer you are here, the more you will see the pattern of people discrediting facts to justify their position in a stock when it doesnt continue to perform up to the unrealistic expectations posted about it. that often turns into personal disputes. as purl said take a look at someones record and you will see where they are coming from. you want to know my predictions for tomorrow and beyond? it's too early to tell. lets see if these keyboards meet expectations and if ibzt sells enough to improve the health of the company and find the next widget to keep them healthy.
entre dicho y hecho hay mucho trecho
uncle milty
quote:Originally posted by Neo: Time is being waitsted cause everyone thinks what they think about this and there is no new information to change anything. we are in a stalemate till the company makes a move.
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I want to apologize to YOU Old Mullet in paticular--- i respect your position in this stock--i am a BULL-- and i want ALLSTOCKS to succeed--but i can't help poking fun at cartoon characters once in awhile--I hope IBZT can overcome the next hurdles and i hope we have 5000000000000 more members here at ALLSTOCK making money just like you have helped me-- i am not even negative on this stock-- some people want to make others think so--and some people are not honest ---plain and simple-- i have limited RISK capital and i am trying my best to utilise it to da MAX------
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i'm not negative or positive on ibzt. you don't owe me any king of appology. as far as i'm concerned the jury is still out on the future of ibzt. in the mean time i will continue to bring up what i find and question what i feel might affect the future of the company, good or bad. i just might do it somewhwhere where more of the members are vets like you and a dozen or so other constructive, objective researchers on allstocks that cary the load and don't overlook the truth. i'm starting to get tired of the diminishing number here who work for the good of the group. i've had allot of fun here, but lateley i feel like i am running through a minefield despite a pretty good track record. if i burned my 2m free shares of ibzt i am still up close to 140k. i got in and out with a formula and a plan. and i am well on track for an outstanding year if my plays continue to pan out.
it seemed a few months ago there were some really appreciative new people interested in learning. now it seems we have lots of people showing up who couldn't cut the mustard at some other site and have brought their one sided analyses and razor tongues here to disrupt the productivity we once knew. it's not worth the effort if i need to wear a flack jacket or present dd on a silver platter. i invest because it is fun and not because i need to. there are other options.
uncle milty
quote:Originally posted by glassman: I want to apologize to YOU Old Mullet in paticular--- i respect your position in this stock--i am a BULL-- and i want ALLSTOCKS to succeed--but i can't help poking fun at cartoon characters once in awhile--I hope IBZT can overcome the next hurdles and i hope we have 5000000000000 more members here at ALLSTOCK making money just like you have helped me-- i am not even negative on this stock-- some people want to make others think so--and some people are not honest ---plain and simple-- i have limited RISK capital and i am trying my best to utilise it to da MAX------
Posts: 1081 | From: santa fe, new mexico/puerto vallarta, mexico | Registered: Sep 2003
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quote:Originally posted by stockguyDD: TIME FOR A NEW THREAD ON IBZT... NO DOUBT THAT THIS THREAD WILL BE VERY UNATTRACTIVE TO NEW INVESTORS... there are many pumpers on this thread and hopefully you guys stay off of the next one... people that make such predictions as 12 dollar target in 3 years are just plain stupd and should not be trading stocks... do u know what the letters O/S mean... you are really stupid man... a 12 dollar price target would put ibzt with a market cap of over 15 billion... not anytime soon buddy... this is a great stock with great potential... both short and long term.. but some people need to stop pumping.. hopefully we all move to the new thread so i dont look like an idiot who made a thread for no reason... stick to DD and real information not just your outrageous predictions...
Posts: 1081 | From: santa fe, new mexico/puerto vallarta, mexico | Registered: Sep 2003
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There are still some here who are really appreciative and interested in learning. I have been reading for a few weeks and have learned much from you and others. I've been following the IBZT thread for a while, and had to leave for a few days and just came back to it now and my head spun as I read all the arguing. What a mess this thread turned into! Really, didn't we all kind of outgrow that back in jr. high or earlier?? Could we all maybe get back to documented information and intelligent thoughts? That's what we all need more than the name calling. Thanks for all who have posted informative information on this thread. I've enjoyed it up until today.
As for the comment about how a person could have been in and out of a stock and made tons more in the time we have been waiting for this one, I would love to have the time all day every day to be trading like that, but I have to use the small time I can for the small amount of trading I do. Remember that we don't all do this for a living and are very busy with jobs and other things.
quote: it seemed a few months ago there were some really appreciative new people interested in learning. now it seems we have lots of people showing up who couldn't cut the mustard at some other site and have brought their one sided analyses and razor tongues here to disrupt the productivity we once knew. it's not worth the effort if i need to wear a flack jacket or present dd on a silver platter. i invest because it is fun and not because i need to. there are other options.
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Hi all, The IBZT thread has only deteriorated over the past 24 hours. It is easy to see in this thread, and the brand new thread...(which was excellent for weighting positive and negative dd for almost a month)...what name or names are the cause of the deterioration.
No other board has the integrity of Allstocks. We can quickly restore the integrity of this board, and other boards on here.
If there is a specific postname or postnames that you feel are the cause of what as occurred over the past day, and in other boards in the recent past, you can easily send your complaint here: http://www.allstocks.com/links/html/contact.html
State your case and request that the appropriate action be taken, including removal of postname or names (if applicable) from the board if Allstocks so decides.
The information and maturity, and smiles shared are simply too valuable for all to have it deteriorate beyond what is happening.
Bo
P.S. I just posted this same message on the newly started board, which was deteriorating as quick from the start as this one has in the past day.
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Posts: 256 | From: Altoona, Pa, USA | Registered: Feb 2004
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VKB story on local NBC affiliate WCNC Charlotte NC this morning 6:20 AM. Looked like it was from a trade show, CES? They showed the reporter typing in actual speed not hunt and peck. They used the example in the school system as a way to reduce the crumbs in the keyboard and better hygene and also mentioned medical application. Looked real good!
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Kind of late, but I don't read ALLSTOCKS everyday. Personnally, Purl Gurl's picks have done very well for me. I look forward to her pros/cons posts. Dollars aren't as relevant as percent... I'm up about 20% YTD. I hold a handful of the stocks she's profiled and buy only after doing my own dd. Purl-- keep the profiles coming. I'm a big fan.
I also own IBZT. Down 15%, but I intend to hold for long term. I don't mind losing 15% on IBZT, Bart's posts make up the difference!!!! A good laugh is worth more than a few dollars. I have never seen such consistent,unbridled enthusiasm. Thanks, Bart.
Don't invest what you can't afford to lose.
Have a great day all.
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After reading this thread I offer my apologies to this board. My opinion of DD may conflict with others but I believe in the thought of "keep your friends close but keep your ememies closer". I am interested in any DD concerning Canesta until I see chapter 11 documentation otherwise the simple stroke of Bill Gates pen could mean doom-I want to know what these guys are doing. I felt like the latency issue between sound and light over a 1 foot distance was not enough to put Canesta in the toilet, to me that was up there with who has the better logo and to discount this company on that premise was in my opinion wrong. To PL I'm sorry if this seems like bashing because I'm not and to answer your amplitude question: Audio frequency is 20-20kHz If you use a high freq say 100kHz(probably a lot higher) ambient noise will effect the signal however it would have to be a harmonic of the root audio frequency. Each harmonic off of the root drops the amplitude 3dB or an effective 1/2 of amplitude. By the time you reach the harmonic of the frequency that they would be using in this application the residual amplitude by any ambient source would be negligable not to mention they would be using a trap circuit in the receiver tuned to the frequency they are using to filter out extranious frequencies. To Bart, I'm not sure why you put me up there with PG in your ignore statement, I defended you on one of your last spats with PG and asked for, and still do, civility and DD rather than attacks. I'm not a basher but if I see something that I feel is important I'm going to input what I can with what facts I can. To Milty, don't leave! You and Oilman seem to be the ones who know how to read and make sense of the legalese in those 10K reports and I rely on your experience to decipher what is reported. And Milty, I'm Hooter not Wooter (No relation). As for Purl Gurl I feel you have a lot of experience that you could offer this group however to keep on pressing the same issues as you have is not being helpful. We know your stance, we know your position, we've seen the DD that you have offered. I think everyone here would love to prove that you're wrong. The facts are not present at this time to dispute some of your claims so I guess that makes you right. But your continued pressing of these same issues serves only to inflame this thread. If you have new factual info I would be interested if you want to post the 2001 SEC investigation again I am not. You pose some good questions but you don't need to rub it in over and over. We get it.
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Hooter, good morning. I hope it's warmer where you sit than it is in the Northeast this morning. I make a motion to start spring early.
Your post, as well as Uncle Milty's mention of Canesta is appreciated, and I'm sure you can appreciate it has been well discussed in previous posts. Hopefully we can pick our discussions up again as we have prior to yesterday.
At least to me the fundamental response to your mention of Canesta, lies within the basic of all market forces, that being competition.
Currently, I am using an HP pavilion xt345 laptop for my business and investing. I also have a Compaq desktop for home use. I'm sure if we listed, we could list various makers of computers we use currently, including but not limited to Dell, Gateway, IBM, Sony, Compaq just to name a few. Competition in cell phone hardward (Motorola, Nokia, Panasonic, etc) and our cell phone companies all vary as well. This fact can be mentioned for virtually every product or service in our economy.
Canesta's product may be real and a competitor to IBIZ. That remains to be seen, as I have not seen their product application, cost, or market potential. IMHO, they are likely hard pressed on all areas since the infomation about IBIZ's activity have become globally publicized AFTER Canesta's PR of 12-16-03.
If they do someday put out a product, it will likely be long after IBIZ has entered the global market (now in progress). If they do, then consumers will have even greater exposure to this product and technology. They will make a choice based on their preferences, much like we do for the computers we now use, or any other product or service on the market. And the "if" in my previous sentence only assumes they are able to cost effectively put out a product to compete price and function-wise with IBIZ's technolgy products. Be well, Bo
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I agree Bo and I don't see Canesta as an immediate threat. But the fact that some big boys are investing in these guys is worth note. From what I have heard Canestas board was at $200-400 range and a ways off. Again I don't see them as a threat but I don't feel comfortable ignoring them either. The biggest threat to IBZT I see is IBZT. They had a couple of real good opportunities to pop on PR but failed to do so. I think the late 10K,O/S, and the "we're shipping in a week or two" has hurt them more than anything. They need to ship and if they can't they need to have a date that they can stick to. Maybe it's all been false info on the boards about the shipping dates but it seems to me they need to make good. Luckily the pps hasn't taken an out and out dive but I think that investors are basically saying "prove it". And until some real sales and shipping #s come in, big PR like Circuit City will be ignored like it was.
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All good points Hoot, and I agree with your take on the IBZT status.
If you've seen, from 5 to 10 minutes after the market opened on the day the Circuit City news was released, MM's have grabbed a hold of this stock, trading it mostly among themselves, and have not let it go for a second since. I would think an end to that type of practice will come soon enough. The next 5 to 7 business days for the market and IBIZ should be interesting. Be well, Bo
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Back for only a minute, then out until late afternoon here.
In light of the SEC ruling taking effect now on April 1, rather than 2-20, I would hope news on the delivery and/or status of the shipements can now be made. I truly believed IBIZ was timing many pr and marketing initiatives based on this ruling. Now to break the bond of MM's, what is in the works needs to be known so the stock can rise on it's own merit, and hopefully beyond the grip of MM's.
Patience is our key here, but at some point shareholders have a right to demand answers to delays or formal pr's of product shipment dates. In light of the NASD news, I feel like we are very close to that point.
Bo
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Hey guys/gals, could use some pointers. I been signing up for L2 realtime tickers on various sites, just getting the 2 weeks free, then cancelling. Anyway:
what do the different colors mean? How do you know if they are selling or buying? When it says "size-120? does literally mean 120, or 120,000?
It's cool to have this real time quotes, but I bet it is even cooler once I understand it! haha
TIA
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well for those of you who belive that ibiz was holding out on the news untill the mms were defanged, it will be another month b4 that happens according to another post on the board! MAN that sux.... I dont think they can wait that long so they will have to let some rip and see what happens..
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it doesnt make a diffrence wich thread we use, I am not sure but I think all the realevent information has already been brought out and the rest is opinion.... when the news comes out wich thread is irrelevant just that its is posted fair and balanced. not all this babel that happened for a day or to. but its over lets move on!!
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quote:Originally posted by PL: well 1000 posts old uncle milty... if you feel that only old old old members could provide insight into IBZT, and "NEW" members are only capable of cheerleading, please ignore my posts. My posts are not addressed to you, but to anyone who wants to read it. I am glad that at least Bo and a few others found my Canesta post useful. However, if anybody thinks that what I am posting is just plain junk, please let me know and I'll gladly stop posting from now on.
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