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I need to average down on IBZT... I dont think its gonna hit .038 but i dunno... What do you guys/gals think??
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I may do the same thing. I got in at .048. I dont think it can do down much longer before it finds support. Tightening bollingers usually signal a breakout if im not mistaken. Also, at some point this week news will hit and i have my fingers crossed that its good. i know nothing about TA though, so maybe someone with a clue could weight in and correct me.
My real problem is GE. had been going down since i bought so much of it, but thats a huge company w/ profits so im not worried. Now peopl see my portfolio and probably think "aww what an ass, hes down 1% because hes playing with pennies." when its not the pennies that are bringing it down!

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Fibs say .041

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Originally posted by BroBro:
I need to average down on IBZT... I dont think its gonna hit .038 but i dunno... What do you guys/gals think??


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Could someone please post the L2's...
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Here is what my opinion is! Remember I am a big bull! I can not see it going below .0400.
By the end of the week I see us at .06 or higher! Last that I saw on my L2 was bid .0400 x4 and ask .0438 x1. But this thing is all over the place! I will go check and be back. Eat MONSTERS Eat

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Thanks Bart! I dont think it hits the 3's either but for my sake I hope it does... Just remember to BUY MORE if it hits the 3's everyone. This might be our last chance!
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i have a but in for .041.
it just won't quite get there!
arrrg!

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Latest from Ameritrade as of 10:38AM.
BID: .0411 ASK: .0415 LAST: .0415

L2: BID: .04 x 2 ASK: .0438 x 1

BROBRO thats right! Try and get all the shares you can for when the run does come! I got mine over the last three weeks and now I am going to set and just wait! My MONSTERS will take care of the rest! Eat MONSTERS Eat! Good luck to us all over the loooooooong haul!


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Don't miss the iBiz train, .0417x.042
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Picked up another big chunk of IBZT just now at .042 - ready to rock and roll on this one.
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booya!
ok i'm in.
take it to 8 boys!(and ladies)

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A slow rollout (once or twice a week) of pertinent news will hit the market hard with every press release. ST resistance levels won't often stand a chance as growing demand, # of retailers and expanding product line are revealed to investors and US and Global publicity grows even more.

Today is a very good day. Bo


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revenue for 2002 was 356,000 for the whole year. 2003 with one quarter yet to be reported is at 282. Earnings per share in 2002 was -.19 and 2003 is at -.03 with one qurater yet to be reported
any more company info.

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OK! I just purchased me a Virtual Keyboard from ibiz corp. Order #: ibizpda-4485. COST:
Virtual Keyboard: 99.99
Shipping/handling 8.57
Tax .00
Total cost $108.56
Now this thing should really start to move now that a person as important as I am bought one! RIGHT! Here is a shot! I feel before today is out we will be up on the day. Come on PR! Also, I noticed that now they have an international order on their site! I might have missed it in the past! But, I noticed it today! Now I am turning my MONSTERS loose! Eat eat eat JR and Mom! Sorry I forgot I will let you all know when I get any shipping info and also when I get it!

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SWEET!
i'm sure you will, but let us know as soon as your recieve shipping confirmation!

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Bart,
I totally agree with your analysis.
Let me just add on to it a little bit

Joey's posting is accurate. I checked it out and their revenue for 2002 is 356k, and I think 2003 will be similar.
Being extremely conservative, at 100k units a month, assuming the sale numbers will not grow, that'll be yearly revenues of $120mill!!!! or.. translates to 36000% growth year over year! We haven't even factored in BLue dock nor the cell phones yet for the revenue. This is insane.

IBZT was $30 5 years ago... if the sales revenue sustains for a year.... I wouldn't be surprised if it hits $15 after a few company buybacks and splits.


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revenue for 2002 was 356,000 for the whole year. 2003 with one quarter yet to be reported is at 282. Earnings per share in 2002 was -.19 and 2003 is at -.03 with one qurater yet to be reported
any more company info.
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OK! Lets see now! Lets say they can get an avg of $25 profit per VKB. In the US the CEO said they estimated that they would sell 100K per month at least (that is just retail sell's not counting the internet)! OK, now they have a world wide licensing of the VKB! Now, I think, I am very very conservative here! Asia 60K a month, Europe 60K a month, rest of the america,s plus Canada, Mexico etc etc 60K a month. Now put in all the other countries not included in the above and give them 20K. Now thats a very conservative 300K a month! 300K times 25 is $7,500,000.00 a month times 12 months is $90,000,000.00 a year! That is not counting selling any of there other items they have now! There company is worth only about 20M now! There debt is approx 5M last I heard!
That gives them a profit of $85,000,000.00 after paying off their debt! IS THERE ANY OTHER STOCK WORTH .046 CAN SAY THAT! Plus they have the BLUE DOCK (which will be bigger than the VKB coming in the 4th qtr)(iBIZ having the patent) and also the CELL PHONE coming in the 4th qtr (with iBIZ having the patent)! This company should be rolling in the $$$$$$$! The 2nd year the CEO said they would even sell more! Orders are backlogged everywhere I and others have checked. You have to get on a list to get one! The demand must be HUGE! This is my attempt to put some figures out that I feel are lower than what it will be! Please add your opinions and maybe we all can get a good feel for what we all think and or know! Eat MONSTERS eat!


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Anyone got any lifejackets! If so throw them to the passengers on the titantic (QBID)! It is dropping like a brick! High .0036 as last checked a few min ago .0013! I hope for them it comes back! We are all in these pennies togeather and need to support each other! QBID here is hoping the best for you all! Me myself I would never own this stock but I know how you feel! Hoping the best for you all! Now to IBZT we are not doing so well either but not that bad waiting on a PR! Last PR 5 Feb. Does anyone think as I that when they do release one that it will be a bomb shell that will rocket us up up and away! Eat MONSTER Eat!
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Bought 11k more at .046 at the bell this morning then left. I have been away all day, and it is safe to say that coming home and seeing my hard earned $$'s taking such a dump has not pleased me ! However, I completely agree with Bart, I can't wait for the PR to come out, b/c although I'm in for the very long haul, I still like to see GREEN!!

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well.. when I was looking at it last week it was .0002 So, everyone who bought at that price would still enjoy 650% gain.
I was considering buying the stock, until I found out what the company deals with.
Not quite to my liking
I am sticking with IBZT all the way till we hit the moon!

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Anyone got any lifejackets! If so throw them to the passengers on the titantic (QBID)! It is dropping like a brick! High .0036 as last checked a few min ago .0013! I hope for them it comes back! We are all in these pennies togeather and need to support each other! QBID here is hoping the best for you all! Me myself I would never own this stock but I know how you feel! Hoping the best for you all! Now to IBZT we are not doing so well either but not that bad waiting on a PR! Last PR 5 Feb. Does anyone think as I that when they do release one that it will be a bomb shell that will rocket us up up and away! Eat MONSTER Eat!


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Is IBIZ slipping...it has been 5 days without any PR....someone must be asleep...he he he....hopefully the next PR won't be fluff, it will be hard numbers to drive the price through the roof!
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Well......another killer day. I'm hoping like hell they get some PR out afterhours. I'm thinking maybe I should just walk away from my computer until about mid March when this "monster" is at .80, b/c I'm dying watching all this blood loss!! lol

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Yes, I know what you mean! It slowly going down! Just enough each day to make it feel like a vampire sucking blood out of you! I watch it everyday all day! You are probably right just walk away and come back in March! But, I can not do that! It calls me even when I try to sleep! Eat MONSTERS Eat! 3 trading days without PR. If sat/sun then 5.
The big PR is coming!

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yeah I feel the same way I hope the pr has the effect we are looking for. whats the common speculation as to what it may jump to with the first pr saying good things about sales!
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YEAH, haha!! I can't walk away either!! I was trying to find a computer the entire day b/c it was on my mind!

Neo, I am a newbie so I have no idea what the stock will do, the only reason I am in this stock is b/c I truly think the VKB is an awesome product. I don't own a PDA, so I won't buy one, but I do know that many, many poll's, survey's, and news show that PDA are popular now, and will be more so in the future. I am no pumper, or basher, or whatever, I just think this will sell, and make Ibiz, and all of us some loot!!

Will someone pleeeeaaaassseee feed this monster some PR!! lol

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I just noticed that qbid had a buy back happeing. It has seemed to have bad results for the stock. Does anyone think that if Ibiz where to do a buy back it would have a similar affect. What is the normal reaction of a buy back.... what about a split
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Neo -

If Ibiz ever said they were buying back say 1 billion shares - We'd go through the ROOF! One of the biggest things holding us down is an OS of 2.5 billion and float of 1.4 billion.

QueerBid just had a HUGE. 3,600% run - it was due for a big pullback to fill in the gaps.

I don't think we'll doing anything but move sideways or keep dropping UNTIL the PR's stating both Retailers and Sales figures come out. We know they'll be huge.

ANy other fluff PRs just to stop the bleeding won't cut it anymore, imo.

Steve

Offcolor joke:

PS: You know what they say about the people at QBID? They Su_k!

Sorry if I offended anyone - but couldn't resist!


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IBZT TECHNICALS

Price is approaching 30 day EMA, support

Fibonacci calls for support at .04

On the 10 day chart, williams is showing oversold, and money flow is VERY VERY good.

Classic MM manipulation of the price, trying to force it down before the next run on sales news.

FUNDAMENTAL ESTIMATE
To turn a profit on a running approximate $4MM loss this year- say profit per unit is an extremely conservative $40 after production and overhead- they would need to sell roughly 100,000 VKB's for breakeven EPS. Profit of $60 per, they would need to move 67,000 units. These are both low estimate from the numbers that have been posted

Based on the online order id numbers, it seems there has been more than 4000 ordered from the site itself (either this year or this month) and from that you can add all retail outlets around the world, and then add existing products. Wow.

Anyone else have some predictions?

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Question for the group........lets say god smiles upon us all and deems us big money holders of IBZT....How do we get out?.....trickle a bit off at a time.......throw a market order out on a fast day and hope for the best. Has anyone tried a market sell or buy and if so did it get filled fast? I know there are some big holders out there and I am interested to hear how they will exit.
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Could go below 4 cents today - buy buy buy if it does!
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Found this on RB any thoughts?

ibztrocks,

I think we will go up much higher than the teens. JMHO, of course.

6-month projection: Stock price = .93

REVENUES:

Let's assume that IBZT only sells 150,000 VKB per month. That is $99.99 x 150,000 = $14,998,500 per month equals $179,982,000 per year.

COSTS:

According to Ken, the cost is only $40 initially and $20 shortly thereafter. Since pps is based on future profits we will use the $20 figure. $20 x 150,000 = $3,000,000 per month.

$3,000,000 x 12 = $36,000,000 per year

Retail costs in major outlets, like Radio Shack can be as high as 30-40%. Let's take the 30% figure because IBZT will be selling at cheaper places and through their own website.

.30 x $179,982,000 = $53,994,600

Re overhead costs, lets assume they are 50% of manufacturing costs, say $10 per unit. That is 10% of retail sales.

.10 x $179,982,000 = $17,998,200

Assume royalty cost = %5
.05 x $179,982,000 = $8,999,100

Total costs = $80,991,900

Earnings = Total Revenue - Total costs
Earnings = $179,982,000 - $116,991,900 = $62,990,100

Total outstanding shares = 2,370,000,000

Earnings per share = $62,990,100/2,370,000,000 = .0265 per share.

Note: This is only taking into consideration VKB, not any of the other wonderful products, like Blue Doc. Also, it is assuming only 150k production volume per month. People have mentioned that production would take place in Asia if the Israeli capacity of 100k per month was inadequate. Apparently we are now producing in Asia. I am assuming that we will ramp up another 50k per month.

Use a very conservative P/E = 35. This is very, very conservative for a growth stock.

pps = P/E x Earnings per share
pps = 35 x .0265 = .93


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Thoughts on this too? Milty this sounds like your area of expertise...could this be true?

LONGS PLEASE READ! This is my opinion.. Ken and Mark have been very pissed off at the MMs for dumping all the shares everytime a PR release has been announced. My conclusion they both know that the next few upcoming PRs will be very huge that will drive the PPS earnings up drastically such as
(Names of National Chains to carry the VKB, Order numbers, Pre-order sales figures, contracts and agreements)

I feel that they will not release any major PR News pertaining to any of the above until after Feb 20 when the SEC rules goes into effect for all the MMs and shorts cannot keep shorting thier stock as we and the company are the ones getting ripped off by these MM azzholes.

Ken already mentioned they were disgusted how the MMs kept dumping thier shares after all debts were paid off by IBIZ, everytime a PR was released and then they kept on driving the price down. They are as sick and tired just as we are of all these MMs how they have manipulated and controlled thier stock price and we are the ones paying the price.

I feel that they already have all the PRs prepared to be released and the VKBs are already here to be shipped, but they will not ship anything until after the 20th. It only makes smart business sence not release any major PR news until after the 20th so these MMs cannot have thier way with this anymore and protect the PPS earnings and us as shareholders that belive in this company and thier many great products. I know they would like to put a PR to let us know this but we have to be the ones to do our own DD homework and figure this out on our own.

Thats why they also got a extension for thier 10K earnings which will be released with all the other major PR news which all of this now makes sence. If you read between the lines and put yourself, your company and the best interst of your shareholders this is a smart move for all. We just have to ride it out for the next 10 days.

This is my opinion that I feel will happen.

After the 20th we will see this go into the teens and higher from here on out..

I would appreciate opinions from only longs..


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Guys looks like its comin up...there raising the bids
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Hooter,

Excellent post.

A question for the group....
We all know what 2-20 means, BUT, doesn't anyone involved in naked short selling have to cover by or before the next three trading days?? Bo :)


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I think they have to cover by Monday the 16th (3 days inside the 20th) But I'm not positive that's how it will work.
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Hooter, i hope your right about that .9!
that would pay for my wedding and huneymoon!

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