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m_h13021
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by BetNitAll:
[B]I am using page builder
http://hostingprod.com/@onlinevideogamerental.com/
<META content="Created Using Yahoo! PageBuilder 2.61.84" name=generator>



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Also, if PGHI can get a quick leg up on the compitition, there would be nothing stopping them from attempting to purchase some of their competitors. Wouldn't that be nice. A year or so down the line when subs and revenue are up...go in and make some offers from some of those sites. It might be expensive but it would have an immediate influx of subs
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m_h your right I over looked that tag. I should open my eyes.

Have not played with page builder but can you modify the html? If so then here is an example:

<img src="http://hostingprod.com/@onlinevideogamerental.com/veegeez.gif" alt="online video game rentals" border="0" width="650" height="107">

This image tag includes the alt tag with the keyword "online video game rentals". You just find the image tag and add (alt="keyword")


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I am using page builder


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Great job indeed!!!

I just stopped by to take a quick look,
saw this one..Couldn't resist..This is a very very informative post for people especially who don't have knowledge about TA..

I'll see you on Sunday night!!

P.S: This thread is getting more & more productive, and I like it..Thanks guys...

GL

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Originally posted by cabbage22:

Here is the latest chart, now I will try and explain the techs as unbiased as I can.

Volume- not on the chart, but very low, under 2 mil. We will need more volume in the coming week for this to move up.

Candles- 3 days in a row of bullish candles, a good sign. Today's candle, a Hammer, shows a possible drop on monday. For an example look at the bullish hammer in mid-november followed by a bearish candle. This is usually a short term price correction. I dont expect a correction of novembers magnitude, because of the low volume. A drop to .027 .028 is realistic. After the correction, the trend will resume upwards, as it did in November

Williams %R- a measure of Oversold or Overbought securities. 80 is oversold, 20 is Overbought. When at 50, no matter which direction the price is going it is seen as a healthy rate of change.
//PGHI// This agrees with the candles that the correction expected will be small if at all, because it was not overbought on Friday, it was a healthy uptrend. IMO, we would reach 20 (overbought) if it ran to .06-.08 in 2 weeks, at which time I would cash in, take free shares, and wait for consolidation to end for a new entry point. What we WANT is SLOW STEADY INCREASE. This is how real gains are made.

Stochastic- another measure of oversold/overbought. Notice how it moves with the williams %R. "Stokes" are superior IMO because it has a Fast and Slow line. When the fast crosses the slow, it indicates a possible new trend.
//PGHI// 3 days ago the Fast crossed the slow and began moving UPWARDS, also seen in November before the big run up (Mach I hope you noticed that, guessing you did).

MACD. One of the most important indicators. Moving Average Convergence Divergance. The red line is the SLOW LINE or longer duration MA, grey is the fast line or shorter duration MA. In this case they are the 12/26.
There are a couple things to look at with this. When ABOVE the 0 line, it is said to be BULLISH, below bearish.
//PGHI// Currently we are above the 0, so we are still in a longer term bull run.
YOU MUST LOOK AT BOTH LINES. When the fast line crosses the slow line it is an indication of a possible new trend. The fast line for PGHI will move closer to the slow line and will be similar to November, where it hovered around the 0. The blue divergence bars indicate which direction the slow line is moving.

EMA (Exponential Moving Average)- Moving average taking into consideration larger price swings and calculating them in. A good reference before entering a position. Trading above short duration MA is short term Bullish. Above long duration is Long term bullish.
When prices drop, the VOLUME must be looked at. Dropping through any MA line on HUGE volume is BAD. However, hitting or going through any MA on LIGHT volume is ok, and is a possible reversal point.
//PGHI// Over the past 2 months PGHI has been keeping with the 10 DAY MOVING AVERAGE which is very bullish.
PGHI has touched the 30 Day moving average twice- In November when it bottomed, and this week, where it bottomed. And has not seen the 50 Day Moving average in a few months. This tells you the stock is bullish on short, monthly and quarterly durations.

**************SUMMARY*************
VOLUME= Needs to increase to 3-4 Mil/Day on the up days, and stay below 2-3 Mil on the down days.

CANDLES= Hammer. Bullish. Small Correction Possible Monday to ~ .027 .028

WILLIAMS %R= Oversold, becoming less oversold

STOCHASTICS= Oversold, becoming less oversold

MACD= Slow above 0, Long term bullish
Fast at the 0 moving back above 0, short term bullish

Exponential Moving Averages 10,30,50= Bullish on all three counts

*****OTHER FACTORS / SPECULATION********

MM SIGNALS
100 sale means MM needs shares
200 sale means MM needs shares bad-lot of orders he cannot cover
300 sale means MM is going to take price down to get shares
400 sale means trade sideways
500 sale gapping up or down depending on which way the sale went

Friday
12:28:26 200 NEEDS SHARES, much buying afterwards
15:57:48 300 0.03 + OTCBB near the close
15:57:18 300 0.029 - OTCBB


NEW WEBSITE
Is expected to come out be the EOY

CHRISTMAS RALLY
Its a tradition!

NAME CHANGE
Changing Name to GamezNFlix possible by end of January?

SITE RANKING / HITS
Site continues to get more hits month over month as other competing sites dwindle.


This has taken 2 hours to prepare, 45 min to type out, please read it.

Thank you to Mach, Mav, Marty, PSU, Milty, Raven, BetNit, and all others who actually get dirty, sift through those SEC files and other junk to get the real DD done.

And of course, pbwizard for this banner

Conclusion:

Respect and embrace the very normal 50-62% retracements that take prices back to major trends. If a trade is missed, wait patiently for the market to retrace. Far more often than not, retracements happen... just as we are about to give up hope that they shall not.




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Bet'n... you are really becoming a "great shareholder" here. You are actively looking for ways to market and grow "your company" and you have some good insight. Yes... you are right. Keep in mind PGHI is changing it's Corporate name to "GamezNflix Inc.". I believe Veegeez.com is only the beginning of something much "bigger" here. At this time... we can only guess... but imho... "Skies the limit". mach

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Also, if PGHI can get a quick leg up on the compitition, there would be nothing stopping them from attempting to purchase some of their competitors. Wouldn't that be nice. A year or so down the line when subs and revenue are up...go in and make some offers from some of those sites. It might be expensive but it would have an immediate influx of subs


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by BetNitAll:
"...there would be nothing stopping them from attempting to purchase some of their competitors."

This is a huge point! Or just maybe shopped by somebody on the Nasdaq! Hmmmm?

thanks BetNitAll! Great Post. -


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Which leads into.....

in order to get the big boys buying attention, Gameznflix will have to move off the OTC. -


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TRS... This is a great message. I have personally followed the MM as we have traded for several weeks and am trying to learn what each MM's role is as this stock moves through the ups and downs.... Understanding their roles can help you when making entry and exit positions. Why? MM's are lucky in that they can "see" true market supply and demand. If you can determine their role, their movmements and signals... then you give yourself another "edge." Great read. mach

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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH.....

FOUND THIS ON I-HUB...THOUGH IT WAS INTERSTING READING.

understanding level 2..
first you have to realise that nite makes up over 60 percent of all orders filled on the otc..
than you have to know schb runs second...
than on the stock you have to pick up which party is doing the
raising of the funds..you have a convertible company that is there strictly to sell and where ever there is a convertible you have a company who was hired to push the stock and support the stock...

now the use of TRAC and DATA are very strategic moves on the bid that once was considered pawns by NITE and certain paid promoters before mytrack made this affordable to everyone..
for the most part when you see them and nite on the offer of a non moving stock,it simply is NITE toying with it..

GVRC-identifying this mm is tricky on stocks because he plays an interesting role lately...you must know the history and or find out real quickly from others because this mm i have noticed looks to be a black hole..in saying that he looks to be a heavy weight that some are using now to short...
this mm usually is one now that is there at the top of the run..

BAMM-this is a very positive sign to a stock,he however does not have the power of a nite,but does show that the stock is being pushed and you have to be patient to make sure others join..good signal is if mm's like TDCM,VNDM,QUIN follow him

WMIN,UCAP,ACAP,DOMS,AGIS,VFIN-THIS IS WHERE THE BIG AMOUNT OF SHARES TO HIT YOU ARE...

HILL,FRAN,CRWN,WIEN- these are the second tier of mm's,but before mytracks ECN,they were pawns used by NITE to either show strength or weakness to a stock..
HILL AND CRWN usually go together a lot..they can start a run
but cant afford to take a bit hit of volume either way without
help from schb or nite..

THERE IS NO SUBSTITE FOR HAVING A HISTORY ON A STOCK...
when you already know who does what on a stock and its
history you have half the battle won..the hard part is diversity in the market,in understanding level 2 and seeing each mm's responsibility on a given day takes away from other stocks you may be interested in..
but if you are going to be a walk down player than it is essential to know who pushed the stock up,who was trying to block the move,where each individual day of the run closed and it where it gapped up to so you can find your marking points to look for on the walkdown...

BROKERAGE FIRM THAT FILLS WHEN YOU NEED IT FILLED...
this can not be understated that in the market of misunderstanding you need a firm that allows you options
to pick up shares in the last minute before an uptick..
when there are several mm's on the ask you can be wrong or tricked,but you lessen your odds as a stock lightens and you can still get a fill on your stock..
you cant replace history of knowing how long a nite or schb or others take to fill on say a moving FNIX on news...
but with an online service that gives you an option to use others options in case one does not fill is an alternative..
this is why i use MYTRACK..

GUT FEELING-unfortuantely after everything you read and learn if you dont get an instinct to what it all means and a feel for the stocks,it wont help..concentrate and learn the signals of who is telling you on the stock it is moving..

if you are going to trade for a living,remember each stock you trade and why you bought,where and who led it,it all comes back in a circle and you will trade it again and the beauty of the otc,probably back to the same prices over time that you did last time..



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Yes... Betn brings up a very good point that I've seen a few others talk about here. To me it makes complete sense. Keep in mind that PGHI has been a holding company... and Veegeez is just "one subsidiary". imho... The name change to "GameZNflix Inc." may be an indication of the "new focus" of the company. It is not unrealistic to expect that future acquisitions will likely occur. Once again... this is only the beginning. mach

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by BetNitAll:
"...there would be nothing stopping them from attempting to purchase some of their competitors."

This is a huge point! Or just maybe shopped by somebody on the Nasdaq! Hmmmm?

thanks BetNitAll! Great Post. -



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Walt,

I contacted etrade a while ago to discuss this particular scenario. I would place an order at a certain price that I believed should have received a fill but did not. It has happened often. The broker explained to me that etrade works with MM GVRC on this particular stock. He explained that it was GVRC's responsibility to fill the order... and therefore if I had a large order I would need to call an etrade broker and have him alert GVRC of this particular situation. GVRC would then need to contact... let's say Nite/Bamm... or whomever to make sure they fill the order. He elaborated and stated that the MM's are working on several stocks at one time and sometimes we need to let them know we have an order pending. Now I'm not sure what particular MM mytrack uses with PGHI. It varies by broker... and also varies by each stock... elaborated... mytrack could use BAMM as a primary MM for PGHI and then use NITE as a primary MM for FNIX. Finally... the BB market is not as "cut and dry" as lets say the NAZ as far as level II is concerned. I have seen too many situations in which MM "play" with the price... and will gladly collect your shares if you sell... but often make you chase shares up if you desire to buy. My point is... "don't be fooled"... I anticipate that based on our discussions here... the MM will "collect shares" Monday morning at about .028/.029.... but... believe that you may only be able to buy at .03-.032 and up. I almost feel like trading stocks is like one big "chess game." What has helped me out with PGHI is that I am very confident in this company and it's future. It makes my buying decisions a lot easier... and I do not dare sell at these levels... Hope this helps. mach


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Mach:

I use MyTrack also, but can't find anywhere in the program that lets me pick which MM to use for buying/selling. I have noticed a few times in the past months that I have placed a buy/sell order that was routed to say ... NITE, which was higher or lower than my order, when I could plainly see on level 2 that a different MM was BID/ASK at the level I placed my buy/sell order, but MyTrack sent it to a different MM that was higher/lower than what I was willing to buy/sell. Some orders were eventually filled, but sometimes it took hours, and some were never filled at all, even though the other MM bid/ask was what I placed on my order. Did this post make sense to anyone but me?? I hope I got my point across and if anyone can shed some light on how to fix it I would appreciat it. Thanks.

Walt


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I am going to call the investor relations again on Monday…I just barely missed him on Friday…I will find out some more info about the private placement. Maybe I can get some info about how much money they have raised as of yet. Never hurts to ask.

Remember this too……they gave VeeGeez 14 million shares….if the price goes up to around .50 by next year they could buy out several of the small mom and pop operations. At .50 just 10 million shares could grab you a lot of subs from the competition.

If I hade a business with 300 subs and 500 titles and someone came along and offered me 500 grand straight up for everything…I would do it in a heart beat…maybe even do it for 200 grand cash and some stocks .Those subs could easily be integrated into VeeGeez without missing a beat….maybe offer them a month free in order to smooth the transition…that’s to say they keep it under one site….they could also just have several websites but keep all their games in one place. After the infrastructure is set up the rest is EASY. But we gotta get those subs.

I can’t wait to hear from the KC guy. I want to find out what the KY distribution center looks like. If it’s a huge warehouse then things could be looking really good.

Its already been said….but 2 million in capital can really get this company moving.


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I am leaving KC monday night, will be in KY tues. noonish. It is about 2 hours each way off my course, but well worth it. I have high hopes....I will log on somewhere and post a verbal description of what I see, and will make pictures available upon my return home. Keep up the great work everyone!!!


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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I am going to call the investor relations again on Monday…I just barely missed him on Friday…I will find out some more info about the private placement. Maybe I can get some info about how much money they have raised as of yet. Never hurts to ask.

Remember this too……they gave VeeGeez 14 million shares….if the price goes up to around .50 by next year they could buy out several of the small mom and pop operations. At .50 just 10 million shares could grab you a lot of subs from the competition.

If I hade a business with 300 subs and 500 titles and someone came along and offered me 500 grand straight up for everything…I would do it in a heart beat…maybe even do it for 200 grand cash and some stocks .Those subs could easily be integrated into VeeGeez without missing a beat….maybe offer them a month free in order to smooth the transition…that’s to say they keep it under one site….they could also just have several websites but keep all their games in one place. After the infrastructure is set up the rest is EASY. But we gotta get those subs.

I can’t wait to hear from the KC guy. I want to find out what the KY distribution center looks like. If it’s a huge warehouse then things could be looking really good.

Its already been said….but 2 million in capital can really get this company moving.



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OT:

I have started a thread on ATNG, and based on technicals alone it appears to be oversold.

Disclosure: I do own shares

Now Im not saying "buy ATNG"
What I am saying is that it has the potential for a 50-100% gain.

What I recommend is anyone who follows TA watch this stock for a reversal.

Currently its around .015 with strong support at .014 and choppy overhead. A run to .025-.03 is possible on increased volume.

Just want to give people a heads up, cuz I know I hardly look at the other posts anymore, and I know there are many intelligent people here.

I dont want to take up any more space on this thread, so if you have any opinions or DD please post it to the ~~ATNG~~ thread

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Thanks mach. I'm not too good about reading charts but do try to contribute.

btw, the place i'm staying at has wireless internet access so i can dro by occasionally.

ciao.

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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Adrenalix... Thanks for the follow thorugh on this... Really. You are very savy and your mesages are great. Just wanted to let you know that! mach



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I noticed something that I don't know what to make of it.

the address that pghi is moving to is a home and not a business. seems to me that they're moving the business from rented office space to a garage.

i had a friend who has access to assessor's information confirm that the property is zoned as residential.

now i remember that fleming once sent an email that referred to the relocation as a "family move". it was posted on the msn pghi forum but is down right now. i didn't think much of that comment until now. i'll post a link to it when it goes up.

check out the aerial map (red dot) below: http://terraserver-usa.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&Lon=-86.56073588&Lat=36.73521622&Alon=-86.56073588&Alat=36.73521622&w=1&opt=0&ref=A|1535+Blackjack+Rd,+Franklin,+KY+42134

after more research, i found that there are a lot of flemings in franklin. it's a common name, but may have some connection.

see: http://www.simpsonco.bizland.com/FAMILY_HISTOR_F.HTM

what do you all think?

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In my town most all the biggest business here are in Private Home. I work for company call ELAD, Inc. They own a chain of Best Western Hotels and a chain of Medical Supply Store and there Corp. Office is above his garage at home.

This info is good to know but remember it's not where they are located it's how they run it that matters to me.

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Originally posted by adrenalix:
I noticed something that I don't know what to make of it.

the address that pghi is moving to is a home and not a business. seems to me that they're moving the business from rented office space to a garage.

i had a friend who has access to assessor's information confirm that the property is zoned as residential.

now i remember that fleming once sent an email that referred to the relocation as a "family move". it was posted on the msn pghi forum but is down right now. i didn't think much of that comment until now. i'll post a link to it when it goes up.

check out the aerial map (red dot) below: [URL=http://terraserver-usa.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&Lon=-86.56073588&Lat=36.73521622&Alon=-86.56073588&Alat=36.73521622&w=1&opt=0&ref=A|1535+Blackjack+Rd,+Franklin,+KY+42134 ]http://terraserver-usa.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&Lon=-86.56073588&Lat=36.73521622&Alon=-86.56073588&Alat=36.73521622&w=1&opt=0&ref=A|1535+Blackjack+Rd,+Franklin,+KY+42134[/UR L]

after more research, i found that there are a lot of flemings in franklin. it's a common name, but may have some connection.

see: http://www.simpsonco.bizland.com/FAMILY_HISTOR_F.HTM

what do you all think?

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Very good info, but, I want to add something. The satellite picture is 4-5 years old, and look across the street at the vacant land, which looks like the start of an industrial park. I checked my home address on the web site, and the red pin was about 500 yards off, and on the wrong side of the street.....Just hoping I don't drive all the way over there to look at an old house....We shall see.


quote:
Originally posted by adrenalix:
I noticed something that I don't know what to make of it.

the address that pghi is moving to is a home and not a business. seems to me that they're moving the business from rented office space to a garage.

i had a friend who has access to assessor's information confirm that the property is zoned as residential.

now i remember that fleming once sent an email that referred to the relocation as a "family move". it was posted on the msn pghi forum but is down right now. i didn't think much of that comment until now. i'll post a link to it when it goes up.

check out the aerial map (red dot) below: [URL=http://terraserver-usa.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&Lon=-86.56073588&Lat=36.73521622&Alon=-86.56073588&Alat=36.73521622&w=1&opt=0&ref=A|1535+Blackjack+Rd,+Franklin,+KY+42134 ]http://terraserver-usa.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&Lon=-86.56073588&Lat=36.73521622&Alon=-86.56073588&Alat=36.73521622&w=1&opt=0&ref=A|1535+Blackjack+Rd,+Franklin,+KY+42134[/UR L]

after more research, i found that there are a lot of flemings in franklin. it's a common name, but may have some connection.

see: http://www.simpsonco.bizland.com/FAMILY_HISTOR_F.HTM

what do you all think?

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Hello all! WOW! Thank you very much for the last 2 posts! I was just about to put a sell order in for Monday morning, for my remaining ATNG, in order to buy more PGHI. I guess i already own enough PGHI! Maybe too much. Thanx again, Marissa
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In response to kcbudman:

Now that is hands down the best DD anyone could ever provide, with the exception of insider information.

Thanks for the effort, looking forward to your findings. Lets hope you don't find a old farmhouse with chickens running around and Mr.Fleming dressed in bluegrass overalls with the proverbial "wheat" hanging from the mouth. -


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Does anyone know about Mr.Fleming past history. I have decent amount of shares holding and excepting to go up. But now , when I heard it is garage they moved, It is fishy.

Experts comment on this please. Beginners like me depend on you guys.

Thanks,
SCS

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In response to kcbudman:

Now that is hands down the best DD anyone could ever provide, with the exception of insider information.

Thanks for the effort, looking forward to your findings. Lets hope you don't find a old farmhouse with chickens running around and Mr.Fleming dressed in bluegrass overalls with the proverbial "wheat" hanging from the mouth. -



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Response to scs005:

I can understand your concern. Take information provided on boards with at grain of salt. It very well could be a residential area or it could be a industrial park, as stated from another post? This is all speculation and based on OLD information from the mid 90's.

The way I look at is, it is not like this is a retail location. And above all, PGHI/VG's is not in the business of manufacturing games, but renting them. How much space is really needed for this, I am making the assumption of not much or at least not necessary to have a huge warehouse. Well maybe not at this time.

These are just my thoughts. I am still looking for a link to Mr.Fleming's resume of past ventures. -Marty


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How important do you think the actual physical location of inventory is to the overall success of Veegeez.com. Afterall I can not imagine it takes a gigantic warehouse to store DVD's and/or Video Games. Customers that rent video games (and dvd's in the future) receive their orders via mail. They do not go to a physical location to pick them up.

I believe the imporant factors impacting our success will be (1) PRICING AS COMPARED THE COMPETITION (2) DELIVERY TIME (3) INVENTORY AVAILABILITY.

These important factors combined with a STRONG MARKETING PLAN and ENHANCED WEB PRESENCE are extremely important. Ultimately a business plan that implements these factors will lead to an INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SUBSCRIBERS and CUSTOMER RETENTION ultimately INCREASING SHAREHOLDER VALUE.

I honestly do not believe these factors at all include "where inventory is housed" but rather the LOGISTICS OF THAT INVENTORY WITH RESPECT TO INSURING THAT OUR CUSTOMER'S RECEIVE THEIR ORDERS IN A TIMELY MANNER.

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I noticed something that I don't know what to make of it.

the address that pghi is moving to is a home and not a business. seems to me that they're moving the business from rented office space to a garage.

i had a friend who has access to assessor's information confirm that the property is zoned as residential.

now i remember that fleming once sent an email that referred to the relocation as a "family move". it was posted on the msn pghi forum but is down right now. i didn't think much of that comment until now. i'll post a link to it when it goes up.

check out the aerial map (red dot) below: [URL=http://terraserver-usa.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&Lon=-86.56073588&Lat=36.73521622&Alon=-86.56073588&Alat=36.73521622&w=1&opt=0&ref=A|1535+Blackjack+Rd,+Franklin,+KY+42134 ]http://terraserver-usa.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&Lon=-86.56073588&Lat=36.73521622&Alon=-86.56073588&Alat=36.73521622&w=1&opt=0&ref=A|1535+Blackjack+Rd,+Franklin,+KY+42134[/UR L]

after more research, i found that there are a lot of flemings in franklin. it's a common name, but may have some connection.

see: http://www.simpsonco.bizland.com/FAMILY_HISTOR_F.HTM

what do you all think?

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I agree 100% mach.The physical location of inventory has no bearing at this time since this is a web based operation still somewhat in its infancy stage.
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Anyone know how big the San Diego site is?

This would provide you with a good working model of what is neccessary in terms of space to start a new distribution center?

Space in someone's garage is definitely not what I bought into and I am certain that many other investor's here feel the same way.

I would be careful about believing anonymous posts by anyone on a board. I could go out and take a picture of any delapitated home and garage and tell you this is the new center...wouldn't mean it were true. On the contrary I could take a picture of a business site in an industrial park and post it and still would not neccessarily make it the true site. That is why it is called Due Dilligence.

Ask JF, contact the people at VeeGeez, contact a real estate agent in KY.

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MACH,

If the new site materializes as a basement or garage in the CEO's New Home in KY...then yes it makes a huge difference and it would be immediately reflected in the stock price. First there would be a huge issue of trust (IMO) and second I don't believe anyone here was "buying into" Mom and Pops basement business operations.

here is to hoping this is not so!


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I agree with you Mach. Loaction or ware does not matter for online business. But as Gonnaplode explained, the ware house shows the quality of business.

I am not experts like you guys,I read in Peter Leads expert tips, He said " Show me Buisness place and who are working, I will tell tou how company will perform".

In our case I am afraid, I respect Mach, cabbage,.. , everyone on our board their amazing technical details.

Please correct me If I am wrong.

Thanks
SCS

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MACH,

If the new site materializes as a basement or garage in the CEO's New Home in KY...then yes it makes a huge difference and it would be immediately reflected in the stock price. First there would be a huge issue of trust (IMO) and second I don't believe anyone here was "buying into" Mom and Pops basement business operations.

here is to hoping this is not so!



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I am the one going out there to look at the KY site. I am doing it for me. I have offered to share with the board. Some people here like the fact that I am doing it. You don't have to believe me, since I am anonymous, but I have been a member of this board for several months. Like I said, though, I am doing it for me, because I have great expectations from this company. I do not plan on selling, even if it is a home based business. I believe the techs support a nice move in the near future. I am doing this DD for possible long term hold, that is all.


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Anyone know how big the San Diego site is?

This would provide you with a good working model of what is neccessary in terms of space to start a new distribution center?

Space in someone's garage is definitely not what I bought into and I am certain that many other investor's here feel the same way.

I would be careful about believing anonymous posts by anyone on a board. I could go out and take a picture of any delapitated home and garage and tell you this is the new center...wouldn't mean it were true. On the contrary I could take a picture of a business site in an industrial park and post it and still would not neccessarily make it the true site. That is why it is called Due Dilligence.

Ask JF, contact the people at VeeGeez, contact a real estate agent in KY.

HOPING FOR THE BEST.



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My comments were not aimed directly at you or any specific individual. Even you must understand how easy it would be to create a selling panic by posting a picture of some broken down property that looks like it should be demolished. It is that simple, anyone can post deceitful information on any number of sites if they so choose. I wish you all the best in your investment. As for me if this is not a warehouse, I would prefer (for me) not to have ever seen or heard these recent comments. As to the value of the stock, it would also be best if everyone still believed this to be a warehouse as posted earlier. No Doubt in my mined whatsoever.

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I am the one going out there to look at the KY site. I am doing it for me. I have offered to share with the board. Some people here like the fact that I am doing it. You don't have to believe me, since I am anonymous, but I have been a member of this board for several months. Like I said, though, I am doing it for me, because I have great expectations from this company. I do not plan on selling, even if it is a home based business. I believe the techs support a nice move in the near future. I am doing this DD for possible long term hold, that is all.




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yep. i'm not sure what to make of this. i do hope that things have changed since that aerial map was taken. we'll see what kc finds out.

the question i was asking myself was why kentucky?

was this move personal in nature? for fleming to return to family?

was it really to add a new distribution center?

does anyone think that their relocation happened too quickly after PGHI purchased VG?

is it possible that Fleming had planned on moving there anyway?

i don't know.


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Adrenalix,

First and foremost as a shareholder I respect and support the decisions that this company is making. At this particular stage in the progress of the company... it does make sense to have both an East & West Coast Distribution Center. The timeframe in which customers receive and are able to return their rentals will have a dramatic impact on their satisfaction and desire to continue their membership with Veegeez. Knowing that we are about to launch a new site and incoporate DVD rentals... The move indicates that we have a President that is looking to move forward agressively. It would not make sense at all to launch a new site and focus on growing your subscriber base to find out that your new subscribers are disappointed in the timeliness of their orders. Indeed... a company would desire to "have all it's ducks in a row." With respect to whether he has family in Kentucky.. I do not care to speculate... but will add that if in fact I were the President and understood that an East Coast Distibution Center was necessary... I might indeed consider at least trying to locate such a center in an are that I might have family and friends.

mach

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yep. i'm not sure what to make of this. i do hope that things have changed since that aerial map was taken. we'll see what kc finds out.

the question i was asking myself was why kentucky?

was this move personal in nature? for fleming to return to family?

was it really to add a new distribution center?

does anyone think that their relocation happened too quickly after PGHI purchased VG?

is it possible that Fleming had planned on moving there anyway?

i don't know.



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MACH...

I just wanted to finally take a minute to say hello and thanks for all your work that you share with this board. I'm fairly new to investing and am on a steep learning curve. Your posts along with a few others here (mav, cabbage, uncle milty) I find extremely informative and valuable. It's great how much DD gets shared on this board without any nonsense like on some others! I started buying PGHI about 6 weeks ago and have been adding to my position when I can. As has been stated before, the upside potential of this company far outweighs the downside IMO and it's getting more exciting following it each week.

Here's something interesting I found the other day: According to a recent 2003 survey by Forbes Magazine, when it comes to cost of doing business, Lexington, KY (which is only 3hrs from Franklin, KY) was rated as the 4th best place in the country to locate a business.

I hope to pick up my last block of shares Monday at this current level.

Thanks and GLTA!
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Wow... glad to see a post from you j160e. I love it that our members her are able to do their DD and share these important facts with the board. Much better than speculation and rumor. Thaks again. mach

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MACH...

I just wanted to finally take a minute to say hello and thanks for all your work that you share with this board. I'm fairly new to investing and am on a steep learning curve. Your posts along with a few others here (mav, cabbage, uncle milty) I find extremely informative and valuable. It's great how much DD gets shared on this board without any nonsense like on some others! I started buying PGHI about 6 weeks ago and have been adding to my position when I can. As has been stated before, the upside potential of this company far outweighs the downside IMO and it's getting more exciting following it each week.

Here's something interesting I found the other day: According to a recent 2003 survey by Forbes Magazine, when it comes to cost of doing business, Lexington, KY (which is only 3hrs from Franklin, KY) was rated as the 4th best place in the country to locate a business.

I hope to pick up my last block of shares Monday at this current level.

Thanks and GLTA!
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After 30 extremely healthy years in the marketing,operations,and merchandising end
of mailorder and retail ground floor operations I have learned a few things.

KEEP YOUR OVERHEAD UNDER CONTROL!

If Fleming has the goods in his basement who gives a SH...T when your shares are going to be worth $1.Would you rather see a the company in a nice tower like Enron and your shares in the toilet because the expenses are out of control.I applaud Fleming if he is the type of person that does not care about being in a plush office to get this company off the ground.If some of you have ever been involved in builing a business from the ground floor then you can appreciate what I am referring to for those of you that have not, understand that the main concern of a new MAIL ORDER business is the PEOPLE, MERCHANDISE,MARKETING,and last but not least the SERVICE.If Fleming can flawlessly impliment these factors I do not care if he is shipping out of a toilet.
You can find a ton of nice locations but that WILL NOT make a MAIL ORDER business function properly nor will a BANK loan you money because you have a nice location.You receive money from a bank because they believe in the people that are running the business , and the product or business plan they present.Location is a priority in the retail business or when purchasing a home but NOT IN THE MAIL ORDER BUSINESS.........
As a shareholder of PGHI I do not care about Kentucky pictures the stock will not get better or worse from the pictures , the stock will get better or worse from the reaction of the stockholders...guess what..Fleming will make this work with or without you I choose to be included.There is a very valid reason for the name change that I posted to MACH a few weeks ago and I stand by it.Please understand this is just my opinion.
There is one thing that does diturb me.I have been a member of this forum for a couple of weeks and have read posts from some brilliant and well spoken people.There have been only positive vibes until last week some beauty named SUNNY came along.Now I decided at the time not to answer the SUNNY posts so there would not be any attention given to that person.Now I see some more of the same.Is it me or is there a pattern starting cause the stock is about to take off.To Mach , Mav , Milty and a host of others thank you for all your help even though we have never it is great to know there are people holding up the fort!

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TRS...

Wow... this is a very well said statement. You have said everything that I was thinking... to the tee! I think many of the "newbies" here have not taken the time to reread many of the "brilliant" post and due diligence that has been done with respect to PGHI. Many of the questions they ask hae been discussed thouroughly... and yes I have enjoyed our civilized discussions. I will not elaborate any further other than... to encourage others to read your post a few times and absorb it and to further encourage "newbies" that are "truly" interested in learning more about their investment or potential investment to take the time to read through this entire thread. It will enlighten and answer many of the questiOns that you may have. Thanks again. mach

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After 30 extremely healthy years in the marketing,operations,and merchandising end
of mailorder and retail ground floor operations I have learned a few things.

KEEP YOUR OVERHEAD UNDER CONTROL!

If Fleming has the goods in his basement who gives a SH...T when your shares are going to be worth $1.Would you rather see a the company in a nice tower like Enron and your shares in the toilet because the expenses are out of control.I applaud Fleming if he is the type of person that does not care about being in a plush office to get this company off the ground.If some of you have ever been involved in builing a business from the ground floor then you can appreciate what I am referring to for those of you that have not, understand that the main concern of a new MAIL ORDER business is the PEOPLE, MERCHANDISE,MARKETING,and last but not least the SERVICE.If Fleming can flawlessly impliment these factors I do not care if he is shipping out of a toilet.
You can find a ton of nice locations but that WILL NOT make a MAIL ORDER business function properly nor will a BANK loan you money because you have a nice location.You receive money from a bank because they believe in the people that are running the business , and the product or business plan they present.Location is a priority in the retail business or when purchasing a home but NOT IN THE MAIL ORDER BUSINESS.........
As a shareholder of PGHI I do not care about Kentucky pictures the stock will not get better or worse from the pictures , the stock will get better or worse from the reaction of the stockholders...guess what..Fleming will make this work with or without you I choose to be included.There is a very valid reason for the name change that I posted to MACH a few weeks ago and I stand by it.Please understand this is just my opinion.
There is one thing that does diturb me.I have been a member of this forum for a couple of weeks and have read posts from some brilliant and well spoken people.There have been only positive vibes until last week some beauty named SUNNY came along.Now I decided at the time not to answer the SUNNY posts so there would not be any attention given to that person.Now I see some more of the same.Is it me or is there a pattern starting cause the stock is about to take off.To Mach , Mav , Milty and a host of others thank you for all your help even though we have never it is great to know there are people holding up the fort!

TRSTURGUT-18


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How will gaming market growth impact the success of GameZNflix Inc. and Veegeez.com? mach

GAMING MARKET GROWTH
A new study shows that 70% of U.S. homes will have video game consoles by 2005 (close to the percentage of homes with VCRs), that 60% of Americans play computer/video games on a regular basis, that the gaming industry put 220,000 people to work last year, and that those jobs generated US$9 billion in wages and tax revenues.


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