TECHNICAL ANALYSIS & SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS
There is no question that mass psychology has an impact on a stock’s price: Prices are driven by emotions, mainly greed and fear. Technical analysis incorporates price action and volume to produce a blueprint of where a stock has been and where it may go. It traces the emotional extremes of the bulls and the bears to produce clues as to where the greed of fear is the strongest. Knowing how to spot repeating price patterns in the market will provide you with a valuable advantage.
Great traders have proven time and again that they can consistently win by speculating when the odds are in their favor. Whether you have used or desire not to use technical analysis is insignificant. We all use different trading strategies as we make our investment decisions.
What is significant is the fact that many individuals use technical analysis as an indication of (1) Whether to enter a position (2) When to Enter a position (3) And when to exit a position.
A common pattern thoughout the market is that technicians are often the the first to enter a position followed by the general market and momentum traders.
So what do the technicians see happening with PGHI lately? And what will technicians do?
Williams%R & Fast Stochaistics have now signaling that PGHI is moving into oversold territory. During the prior moves into oversold territory in Mid September and mid November PGHI gained several 100%’s gains in the following days after several consecutive days of consolidation. Slow Stochaistics for PGHI indicate that it may trade “sideways” in oversold territory for a few more days(Strong news could change this.) One could speculate based on prior trends that PGHI will likely make a similar move in the near future from the current oversold position and reward current shareholders with a 100%/200%/300% gain or more.
What will technicians be doing during the next few days? Accumulation. (See attached chart)
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=PGHI,uu[m,a]daclyyay[db][pb50!b200][vc60][iUi14,3!Lk14]&pref=G
That’s great if technical analysis were always 100% accurate, but it isn’t. We need to dig a little deeper and discover whether there are any significant developments within the company that will support and substantiate such a move.
SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS
So what are the significant developments occurring now and will they impact shareholder value in the near future?
The first significant development is a corporate name change to GameZNflix Inc. How significant is this? This demonstrates to the shareholder that PGHI is extremely focused on the success of it’s online business to the extent that they are developing much of their current business model around it’s success. "When you review companies like NetFlix.com, and apply a similar model to Veegeez.com it is easy to see the potential of our new subsidiary." President John Fleming continued, "We feel there is a great upside for our shareholders with this acquisition."
Should shareholders be excited? Absolutely! Afterall Netflix pulled off a dot-com IPO and reached profitability faster than anyone predicted. Netflix shares have taken a “gigantic leap” in less than 2 years from $4 to $60. Is itn't unreasonable to assume that GameZNflix shareholders will realize substantial gains from it’s current trading level of .026!
A second significant development is the launch of a new web site designed by Roy Vella, Web & Print Design Service. Lance Wiseman, CTO states, "The signing of this contract begins the next phase of VeeGeeZ.com's business plan to provide enhanced services to its customers. In addition, the new design will not only meet our current video game rental customer base it will setup our expansion into the DVD rental world"
Did he say DVD? A third significant development which will become a much more significant factor in the success of the current business model is the addition of DVD’s to it’s current business model.
The expectation for the launch of online DVD rentals combined with it’s current Online Gaming Rental business is extremely significant. After all Netflix currently does not offer or market Online Video Game Rentals! It will be much more convenient for America to have an subscription service that caters to families that desire both a DVD and Video Game Rental Service! Will this increase the number of people that subsribe to their service? Yes! Will this increase shareholder value? Absolutely!
GREAT EXPECTATIONS
Upon completion of both the final name change and new web site you can expect a much stronger focus on marketing and an increase in subscriptions. On November 5, 2003, PGHI announced that its subsidiary -- online video game rental company, VeeGeeZ.com, LLC -- has signed a contract with Venture Direct Worldwide of New York to handle its online marketing campaign. The experienced staff of Venture Direct Worldwide and VeeGeeZ management has developed a marketing plan to assist the company in moving to the next level.
The success of many company is more often than not the direct result of the success of it’s marketing campaign. How successful will it be? Why don’t we ask some of Venture Direct Worldwide’s current clients which include: Adobe, Microsoft, Citigroup, AT&T, Intel, Xerox, Fortune Magazine and many other successful companies. Do I need to elaborate?
(See attached link:http://www.venturedirect.com/html/vdw_clients.htm)
TIME FRAME
How close are we to seeing these developments significantly impact shareholder value? Current indications are that it will be VERY SOON!
Here are the steps leading to the name change:
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1. File a Prelim Proxy (Pre 14a) - DONE
2. Followed by a Definitive Proxy Filing (Def 14a) - DONE
3. Followed by a Prelim Information Statement Filing - (Pre 14c) - DONE
Only 2 steps left before name change and 5 left before new trading symbol:
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4. Followed by a Definitive Information Statement Filing (Def 14c) -
5. Followed by a mailing by our Transfer Agent to shareholders of record
6. Followed by the actual name change
7. Followed by Request for a new CUSIP#
8. Followed by a Request for a new trading symbol
9. Followed by the symbol being granted.
The new web site launch is also expected soon.
CHRISTMAS RALLY?
Historically, the days before and after Christmas and Thanksgiving holidays have produced above average returns with strong frequency numbers for the markets Both the frequency and gains for these two particular trading days have been far superior to market averages. (Time in Time Out, Thackray & Lindsay.). Although I had not applied this trading strategy to bb stocks in the past, I was pleasantly surprised to see that PGHI traded well in the “days” preceding Thanksgiving with a trend that produced substantial gains in the following days. Can we assume that a similar pattern will happen into the Christmas Holiday. Never underestimate the power of the market?
SUMMARY
While many of us have very different entry and exit strategies, it is always great to use a combination of trading strategies.
A combination of technical analysis and significant internal developments have been presented to you for your review. This is an extraordinary opportunity for substantial gains from current levels. The greatest “near-term” gains based on this analysis will likely be realized between December 23rd, 2003 and January 15th, 2004 with entry at current trading levels.
PERSONAL SUMMARY
For "long-term" investors, this is one of those lifetime opportunities that have the potential to substantially increase the value of your portfolio for years to come.
In the past I have missed to significant trading opportunities in which I could have gained "hundreds of thousands" of dollars with respect to potential investments. The reason I didn't was that I did not have the ability to hold onto shares and realize the full potential of my buying decision. I will not miss this opporunity again.
Remember that stocks do not move straight up or down. They move in trends and those whom are strategic, patient and confident in their positions are greatly rewarded. This has been proven time and time again. As always do your own DD and use your best judgement.
Looking for a significant Christmas GameZNflix Rally! Coming soon! mach
Knowing the nature of the stock you are trading is crucial when determining what sort of exit strategy you choose. Is it a high volume stock that will allow you to enter and exit quickly? Are there rather large price swings (Volatility)? What has been the previous trading patterns of the stock?
Also, the number of shares you are trading can be a second crucial factor. If you buy a million shares for example. You might consider a scaled exit plan. You could sell a set amount at a 30% gain, 50% gain and so forth.
Another strategy that many have achieved with GamezNFlix is a Free Share Strategy. As soon as a stock has moved 100% plus... they sell half of their position and carry the rest as free shares for long term gains. This strategy is not a bad idea at all for GameZNFlix.
Finally, if you are a techie... you can get a pretty good idea of when a stock is oversold or overbought... and balance your risk/reward much more effectively.
Remember... it's not always about buying at the bottom or selling about the top. Many people see a trend. Hop on for a quick gain 20%/30% or more and then exit. Imagine doing that daily for a year!
Hope that helps! Mach
There are hundreds of stocks I monitor daily. Many have the potential for substantial moves. I do alert the board often as to when they occur... and I usually look for tech indications of a potential move. Nothing of substantial interest lately. I'll keep you posted. Let me know if you have any specific questions or tips that you might want me to follow up on.
mach
I just wish I had more cash to get in during this current shake of weak hands.
Hmm....buy presents for Christmas or invest more money in this...well I know which one the girlfriend would pick lol
Goodnight...moose
It's time we moved forward with education and enlightenment. GameZNFlix has a lot of potential. I truly believe this is a great opportunity. Also current trading levels are a great opportunity. How many people would have wished they picked up shares at .015 before the last rally to .05! I monitored the stock... but missed a large part of that ride. It will not happen again! mach
quote:
Originally posted by doc:
Wow... when does your newsletter come out. Very impressive. A couple of shots of women in bikinis and PGHI would skyrocket. The bar has been raised..means we all have a lot of work to do. Thanks for the info... looking forward to the rally.
I've had the same dilema... I think I'm sending out many Christmas Cards this year.
*** Future's so Bright ***
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
I am looking forward to the name change and website launch...it'll be nice too see they are moving ahead on schedule like they stated. If everything goes as planned over the next year we won't regret getting in this anywhere below 10 cents.I just wish I had more cash to get in during this current shake of weak hands.
Hmm....buy presents for Christmas or invest more money in this...well I know which one the girlfriend would pick lol
Goodnight...moose
"PGHI must be a peach of a hand" -Doc Holiday
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited December 17, 2003).]
i hope everyone can take full responsibility for their investments and continue to contribute opinion and the elements for a good multilateral discussion with a minimum of unnecessary bickering. a good discussion and even a debate can be invigorating and productive. thanks for starting this thread so well mach. you are a real asset to us all here.
umcle milty
At the close yesterday there was literally a wall of MM lined up at .025 & .026. I firmly believe anyone literally selling at these levels is walking away from a potential multi-100% gain from current levels. There are few bb opportunities right now that offer this level of return. Though we could possibly trade in oversold territory for a few more days... we should see a bullish reversal soon. I'm glad to see you've stayed strong and are confident in your position. You will be greatly rewarded soon. mach
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Anyone think we are going to have a retraction in the morning. Looking to buy more
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited December 17, 2003).]
Thanks for your comments. I wanted to both express to investors and potential investors why I am so enthusiastic about GameZNflix Inc (PGHI) and the potential here. As I've stated time and again... I am supporting my Strong Buy opinion whether it is trading up or down. The Bulls will "seize control" again here very soon... and then the bears... and bulls... and so forth. This will be an ongoing trend for the life of your investment with any company. With confidence, patience, the investors of PGHI will be greatly rewarded.
*** The futures so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by old mullet:
no one can fault you for your ability to express yourself mach. very well written opening prose and certainly non fiction. i think many here are following this thread and will take away some investment savy even if they don't invest any money. if pghi continues to trade sideways or gives me more opportunity, i will continue to buy more to increase my position. this is golden opportunity at these levels and i concurr with what you have stated both eloquently and enthusiasticly in past posts. a stock like pghi doesn't come along that often. i can't wait to see that little "you've got news" icon in pghi's column on my streamer for months to come. you can keep my "m" on the team.i hope everyone can take full responsibility for their investments and continue to contribute opinion and the elements for a good multilateral discussion with a minimum of unnecessary bickering. a good discussion and even a debate can be invigorating and productive. thanks for starting this thread so well mach. you are a real asset to us all here.
umcle milty
Your words could not have been spoken any better.I for one feel fortunate to have you
here to help in our plight.This company is laying down the foundation for the future and that takes time and patience.They are not looking for instant gratification but or a quick hit.When you hire great people they will do great things and I believe that is the path of GAMES N FLIX.Remember the marketing has not even been tapped into yet...when that starts this will take off like a rocket..Mach thank you for your consistant and skillful information.
TRSTURGUT-18
Thanks for your comments! There is no doubt that this is only the beginning of something much greater. I as well as the members of this board will be greatly rewarded for our investments in GameZNFlix during it's initial development stage. The completion of the name change and new web site launch are the first step. Imagine how shareholder value will increase as the marketing campaign begins and subscriber base continues to grow. We have yet to enter that stage... and that's why I'm excited! How often do you have the opportunity to be in on "the ground floor" of a company that has huge growth potential. You do not need to be a visionary to see where we are headed.
mach
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
Mach...Thank you!Your words could not have been spoken any better.I for one feel fortunate to have you
here to help in our plight.This company is laying down the foundation for the future and that takes time and patience.They are not looking for instant gratification but or a quick hit.When you hire great people they will do great things and I believe that is the path of GAMES N FLIX.Remember the marketing has not even been tapped into yet...when that starts this will take off like a rocket..Mach thank you for your consistant and skillful information.TRSTURGUT-18
I've been watching your advise but never posted here before. PGHI is greatest stock I've seen lately. I would just like to correct one error that seems to be floating. The speeling of the new name. Everyone has been spelling it GAMEZNFLIX.COM and this is not correct. They are just advertising with domainmaster and there banner shows with every parked domain on there server. The Correct spelling is GAMESNFLIX.COM. Please rerfer to http://www.godaddy.com where they have register the new domain.
I've been in since $.0051
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
BetN,At the close yesterday there was literally a wall of MM lined up at .025 & .026. I firmly believe anyone literally selling at these levels is walking away from a potential multi-100% gain from current levels. There are few bb opportunities right now that offer this level of return. Though we could possibly trade in oversold territory for a few more days... we should see a bullish reversal soon. I'm glad to see you've stayed strong and are confident in your position. You will be greatly rewarded soon. mach
A proposal to amend the Articles of Incorporation of the Company so that the name will be changed from "Point Group Holdings, Incorporated" to "GamezNFlix, Inc."
mach
PROXY STATEMENT
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated
3744 Poe Street
San Diego, California 92107
This Proxy Statement is being furnished to certain shareholders at the direction and on behalf of the Board of Directors of Point Group Holdings, Incorporated, a Nevada corporation ("Company"), for the purpose of soliciting proxies for use in obtaining the written consent of a majority of the outstanding shares of common stock of the Company for the following actions:
To amend the Articles of Incorporation of the Company so that the name will be changed from "Point Group Holdings, Incorporated" to "GamezNFlix, Inc."
The Company's Board of Directors unanimously approved the foregoing actions on November 4, 2003.
The shares represented by the proxy will be voted in the manner specified in the Request for Written Consent. Any proxy given pursuant to this solicitation may be revoked at any time before it is exercised by giving written notice of such revocation to the president of the Company, or by submitting a later dated proxy. A revocation that is not received prior to the proxy being exercised shall not be taken into account, and the original proxy shall be counted. All Requests for Written Consent must be return to the Company not later than 5:00 p.m. on November 21, 2003.
The cost of preparing, assembling and mailing this Proxy Statement and the accompanying Request for Written Consent is being borne by the Company. This Proxy Statement and accompanying Request for Written Consent will be given to certain shareholders of the Company on or about November 20, 2003.
VOTING SECURITIES
The record date of shareholders entitled to notice of and to vote on the Request for Written Consent is the close of business on October 31, 2003 ("Record Date"). On such date, the outstanding stock of the Company consisted of its common stock ("Common Stock"). At the Record Date shares of Common Stock were outstanding.
Each holder of Common Stock will be entitled to one vote for each share of Common Stock held by such shareholder with regard to the Written Consent, and there will be no cumulative voting right on any shares. The signatures on the Request for Written Consent of a majority of the shares of common stock outstanding on the record date will constitute approval of the action to be taken by the Company. Subsequent to receiving such written consent, the Company will file and thereafter mail to all shareholders of record from whom the Company did not seek such written consent a Schedule 14C Information Statement. Pursuant to applicable Nevada law, there are no dissenter's rights relating to the matter to be voted on.
STOCK OWNERSHIP
The following table sets forth information regarding the beneficial ownership of shares of the Registrant's common stock as of October 31, 2003 (414,071,449 issued and outstanding) by (i) all shareholders known to the Registrant to be beneficial owners of more than 5% of the outstanding Common Stock; (ii) each director and executive officer; and (iii) all officers and directors of the Registrant as a group.
Title of Class Name and Address Amount and Nature Percent of
of Beneficial of Beneficial Class
Owner (1) Owner (2)
Common Stock John Fleming 131,320,000 31.71%
2240 Shelter Island Drive
Suite 202
San Diego, CA 92106
Common Stock I. Matt Sawaqed 32,320,000 7.81%
2240 Shelter Island Drive
Suite 202
San Diego, CA 92106
Common Stock Mark Crist 1,750,000 0.004%
2240 Shelter Island Drive
Suite 202
San Diego, CA 92106
Common Stock Shares of all directors and 165,390,000 39.94%
executive officers
as a group (3 persons)
(1) Except as noted, each person has sole voting power and sole dispositive power as to all of the shares shown as beneficially owned by them.
(2) None of these security holders has the right to acquire any amount of the shares within sixty days from options, warrants, rights, conversion privilege, or similar obligations.
AMENDMENT TO ARTICLES OF INCORPORATON
Description of Securities.
(a) Shareholder Rights.
The Company's articles of incorporation authorize the issuance of 900,000,000 shares of common stock, with a par value of $0.001. The holders of the shares:
- have equal ratable rights to dividends from funds legally available therefore, when, as, and if declared by the board of directors of the company
- are entitled to share ratably in all of the assets of the company available for distribution upon winding up of the affairs of the company
- are entitled to one non-cumulative vote per share on all matters on which shareholders may vote at all meetings of shareholders.
These securities do not have any of the following rights:
- special voting rights
- preference as to dividends or interest
- preemptive rights to purchase in new issues of shares
- preference upon liquidation
- any other special rights or preferences.
In addition, the shares are not convertible into any other security. There are no restrictions on dividends under any loan, financing arrangements or otherwise.
(b) Non-Cumulative Voting.
The holders of shares of common stock of the company do not have cumulative voting rights, which means that the holders of more than 50% of such outstanding shares, voting for the election of directors, can elect all of the directors to be elected, if they so choose. In such event, the holders of the remaining shares will not be able to elect any of the company's directors.
(c) Dividends.
The Company does not currently intend to pay cash dividends. Because the Company does not intend to make cash distributions, potential shareholders would need to sell their shares to realize a return on their investment. There can be no assurances of the projected values of the shares, or can there be any guarantees of the success of the Company.
A distribution of revenues will be made only when, in the judgment of the Company's board of directors, it is in the best interest of its stockholders to do so. The board of directors will review, among other things, the financial status of the company and any future cash needs of the Company in making its decision.
(d) Possible Anti-Takeover Effects of Authorized but Unissued Stock.
The Company's authorized capital stock consists of 900,000,000 shares of common stock, with, as of October 31, 2003, 414,071,449 shares outstanding. One effect of the existence of authorized but unissued capital stock may be to enable the Board of Directors to render more difficult or to discourage an attempt to obtain control of the company by means of a merger, tender offer, proxy contest, or otherwise, and thereby to protect the continuity of the Company's management. If, in the due exercise of its fiduciary obligations, for example, the Board of Directors were to determine that a takeover proposal was not in the Company's best interests, such shares could be issued by the Board of Directors without stockholder approval in one or more private placements or other transactions that might prevent, or render more difficult or costly, completion of the takeover transaction by diluting the voting or other rights of the proposed acquiror or insurgent stockholder or stockholder group, by creating a substantial voting block in institutional or other hands that might undertake to support the position of the incumbent board of directors, by effecting an acquisition that might complicate or preclude the takeover, or otherwise.
(e) Transfer Agent.
The company has engaged the services of Interwest Transfer Co., Inc., 1981 East 4800 South, Suite 100, Salt Lake City, Utah 84117, to act as transfer agent and registrar.
Amendment of Articles of Incorporation.
The corporate action to be taken consists of the Company filing a Certificate of Amendment of Articles of Incorporation so that:
The name of the Company will be changed from "Point Group Holdings, Incorporated" to "GamezNFlix, Inc."
By order of the Board of Directors
November 4, 2003
/s/ John Fleming
John Fleming, President
REQUEST FOR CONSENT OF SHAREHOLDERS
OF POINT GROUP HOLDINGS, INCORPORATED
FOR CORPORATE ACTION
The following matters are hereby submitted to the shareholders of Point Group Holdings, Incorporated, a Nevada corporation ("Company"), for their approval and consent under the provisions of Nevada Revised Statutes 78.390, and Article II, Section 7 of the Bylaws of the Company:
A proposal to amend the Articles of Incorporation of the Company so that the name will be changed from "Point Group Holdings, Incorporated" to "GamezNFlix, Inc."
A shareholder does not have dissenter's rights of appraisal in connection with the proposed action.
This written consent may be revoked prior to the date that the Company receives the required number of consents to authorize the proposed action. No revocation is effective unless in writing and until received by the Company at its principal office located at:
3744 Poe Street, San Diego, California 92107
Each shareholder must return the consent form, indicating an affirmative or negative vote on this issue, by overnight courier to reach the offices of the Company not later than two (2) days after receipt thereof. If a shareholder does not return the consent form, then his or her shares will not be counted in determining the positive and negative votes.
I, __________________________, the undersigned owner of record of ____________shares of common stock of the Company, do hereby vote these shares as follows with regard to the above-described proposals (please check next to the appropriate vote):
Approve: __________
Disapprove: _________
Dated: ____________, 2003 _____________________ ______________________ (Signature of Shareholder) (Signature Of Shareholder) Printed name(s): - Title:
Note: Please sign exactly as name appears on stock certificate. All joint owners should sign. When signing as personal representative, executor, administrator, attorney, trustee or guardian, please give full title as such. If a corporation, please sign in full corporation name by the president or other authorized person. If a partnership, please sign in partnership name by a partner.
quote:
Originally posted by pbwizard:
machI've been watching your advise but never posted here before. PGHI is greatest stock I've seen lately. I would just like to correct one error that seems to be floating. The speeling of the new name. Everyone has been spelling it GAMEZNFLIX.COM and this is not correct. They are just advertising with domainmaster and there banner shows with every parked domain on there server. The Correct spelling is GAMESNFLIX.COM. Please rerfer to http://www.godaddy.com where they have register the new domain.
I've been in since $.0051
Think? Retraction? What has been going on for the last 4-5 trading days. I am sure that is sarcasm in your post right? -
As well as gameznflix.org, gameznflix.biz etc.
mach
DomainMasters.net High Speed Web Hosting and Internet Services P.O. Box 58 Long Pond, Pennsylvan 18334-0058 US Domain Name: GAMEZNFLIX.COM Administrative Contact- Domain Masters.net: bulkregister@domainmasters.net DomainMasters.net High Speed Web Hosting and Internet Services P.O. Box 58 Long Pond, PA 18334 US Phone- 570-643-2038 Fax- 570-643-2081 Technical Contact- Domain Masters.net: bulkregister@domainmasters.net DomainMasters.net High Speed Web Hosting and Internet Services P.O. Box 58 Long Pond, PA 18334 US Phone- 570-643-2038 Fax- 570-643-2081 Record update date: 2003-11-10 13:44:04 Record create date: 2003-11-10 Record expires on: 2004-11-10 Database last updated on: 2003-12-17 09:16:40 EST Domain servers in listed order: NS.CAPITAL-COMPUTERS.COM 216.147.43.187 NS2.CAPITAL-COMPUTERS.COM 216.147.1.141
GAMESNFLIX.COM
Registrant: Point Group Holdings 3744 Poe Street San Diego, California 92107 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com Domain Name: GAMESNFLIX.COM Created on: 16-Nov-03 Expires on: 16-Nov-05 Last Updated on: 16-Nov-03 Administrative Contact: Fleming, John ceo@pghi.biz Point Group Holdings 3744 Poe Street San Diego, California 92107 United States 6192698692 Fax -- 6193742842 Technical Contact: Fleming, John ceo@pghi.biz Point Group Holdings 3744 Poe Street San Diego, California 92107 United States 6192698692 Fax -- 6193742842 Domain servers in listed order: PARK11.SECURESERVER.NET PARK12.SECURESERVER.NET
Now this is what is listed on the national registery
quote:
Originally posted by pbwizard:
I'm sure why but here is the whios as listed with internic
GAMZNFLIX.COMDomainMasters.net High Speed Web Hosting and Internet Services P.O. Box 58 Long Pond, Pennsylvan 18334-0058 US Domain Name: GAMEZNFLIX.COM Administrative Contact- Domain Masters.net: bulkregister@domainmasters.net DomainMasters.net High Speed Web Hosting and Internet Services P.O. Box 58 Long Pond, PA 18334 US Phone- 570-643-2038 Fax- 570-643-2081 Technical Contact- Domain Masters.net: bulkregister@domainmasters.net DomainMasters.net High Speed Web Hosting and Internet Services P.O. Box 58 Long Pond, PA 18334 US Phone- 570-643-2038 Fax- 570-643-2081 Record update date: 2003-11-10 13:44:04 Record create date: 2003-11-10 Record expires on: 2004-11-10 Database last updated on: 2003-12-17 09:16:40 EST Domain servers in listed order: NS.CAPITAL-COMPUTERS.COM 216.147.43.187 NS2.CAPITAL-COMPUTERS.COM 216.147.1.141
GAMESNFLIX.COMRegistrant: Point Group Holdings 3744 Poe Street San Diego, California 92107 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com Domain Name: GAMESNFLIX.COM Created on: 16-Nov-03 Expires on: 16-Nov-05 Last Updated on: 16-Nov-03 Administrative Contact: Fleming, John ceo@pghi.biz Point Group Holdings 3744 Poe Street San Diego, California 92107 United States 6192698692 Fax -- 6193742842 Technical Contact: Fleming, John ceo@pghi.biz Point Group Holdings 3744 Poe Street San Diego, California 92107 United States 6192698692 Fax -- 6193742842 Domain servers in listed order: PARK11.SECURESERVER.NET PARK12.SECURESERVER.NET
Now this is what is listed on the national registery
GAMESNFLIX.COM
GAMESNFLIX.NET
GAMESNFLIX.US
GAMESNFLIX.BIZ
are all registered to Point Group Holdings
quote:
Originally posted by pbwizard:
This could be true but don't you think they would have registered the name under PGHI or VeeGeeZ or something that has to do with them. Don't get me wrong this stock will move upward and I'm holding for longs.
This makes a lot of sense. I own a web hosting company, so I see this stuff everyday. But it would typically make sense to register with your business name, etc. Not sure why a bulk registering system would register that one...
BUT, if you go to www.domainmasters.net I noticed a VeeGees banner on the top of their really ghetto webpage. So it would appear they are somehow connected, or someone knows someone, etc. So it may have been a deal for advertising or something.
NEWS for Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:27:54
52W HIGH: New 52-Wk High for PGHI @ $0.049 up19.51%
Ridgeland, MS, DEC 09, 2003 (EventX/Knobias.com ) -- This is the 2nd 52 WEEK HIGH alert for PGHI in the past 7 calendar days.
The share price for Point Group Holdings Inc (OTCBB: PGHI) reached a new 52-week high today, trading at $0.049, up $0.008 (19.51%) from its previous close of $0.041.
The Company’s previous 52-week high of $0.048 was set 7 days ago on December 02, 2003.
One year ago, the Company’s shares closed at $0.000. The price has climbed more than 48899 percent since then.
At the time of this alert, the stock had traded 2,141,300 shares via 19 trades, 76.46% below it’s 20day average of 9,095,320 shares.
This new 52-week high currently puts the stock:
94.52% above its 20day Moving Average of $0.025
[QUOTE]Originally posted by machtabow2:
[B]GameZNflix RALLY(PGHI) A COMPLETE ANALYSIS
BY MACH December 16, 2003
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
I agree with Mach, if we see the potential that PGHI has to develop in the near term future then it is a wise investment to get in now at these levels, I have made my own DD on PGHI many times and there is not doubt that this stock will increase in value. If you study the grow pattern of PGHI during the last year is more than impressive, just read the news bellow for Dec. 9th, 2003. No stock go all the way up in just one hit and I personally think that PGHI based on all the service that it will offer and the huge market that it can cover that it's a must in my portfolio.NEWS for Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:27:54
52W HIGH: New 52-Wk High for PGHI @ $0.049 up19.51%Ridgeland, MS, DEC 09, 2003 (EventX/Knobias.com ) -- This is the 2nd 52 WEEK HIGH alert for PGHI in the past 7 calendar days.
The share price for Point Group Holdings Inc (OTCBB: PGHI) reached a new 52-week high today, trading at $0.049, up $0.008 (19.51%) from its previous close of $0.041.
The Company’s previous 52-week high of $0.048 was set 7 days ago on December 02, 2003.
One year ago, the Company’s shares closed at $0.000. The price has climbed more than 48899 percent since then.
At the time of this alert, the stock had traded 2,141,300 shares via 19 trades, 76.46% below it’s 20day average of 9,095,320 shares.
This new 52-week high currently puts the stock:
94.52% above its 20day Moving Average of $0.025
[QUOTE]Originally posted by machtabow2:
[B]GameZNflix RALLY(PGHI) A COMPLETE ANALYSIS
BY MACH December 16, 2003
[QUOTE]Originally posted by machtabow2:
[B]Hey Mav... Nice to hear from you. Whenever you hit the boards... I know great things are forthcoming. Yes... we are trading near the low in an oversold state. I hope potential investors on our boards... invest at these lows rather than the chase which will begin soon! mach
*** The Future's so bright! ***
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Originally posted by Mav:
Hey Mach, yes, we are at the lows, this is the time to get in, i would not miss this, I have chased stocks in the past, but not anymore. I think you read my post, I have been reading the technicals on PGHI and this is the moment.[QUOTE]Originally posted by machtabow2:
[B]Hey Mav... Nice to hear from you. Whenever you hit the boards... I know great things are forthcoming. Yes... we are trading near the low in an oversold state. I hope potential investors on our boards... invest at these lows rather than the chase which will begin soon! mach
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Glad to see we are on the same page. Stocks tend to go up when there are no more sellers. From our past experiences with GameZNFlix, i have learned that when this baby moves it moves.... As I've stated many times... the time is coming very soon for another dramatic upward move. imho... our Christmas Rally will be here soon! The secret to success is to "buy when everyone is selling"... and do your best to get a comfortable entry near the lows.*** The Future's so bright! ***
Take a look at Williams%R and Slow Stochs in the attached chart. The last time we trade in this oversold territory... the stock finished consolidation... and the "Bulls Seized Control". In mid-November when it happened... after the reversal the stock moved up more than 200% in 10 days. This exact same pattern occured in mid-September. I expect nothing less from these levels.
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=PGHI,uu[m,a]daclyyay[pb50!b200][vc60][iUk14!Lh14,3]&pref=G
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
I just spoke to Richard Williams the registered owner of GAMEZNFLIX.COM and he is PGHI share holder and he is advertising VeeGeeZ banner. He has made a sale offer to John Fleming and that is as much info he would give me. PGHI does not at this time own the domain name GAMEZNFLIX.CON or .NET
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
machI just spoke to Richard Williams the registered owner of GAMEZNFLIX.COM and he is PGHI share holder and he is advertising VeeGeeZ banner. He has made a sale offer to John Fleming and that is as much info he would give me. PGHI does not at this time own the domain name GAMEZNFLIX.CON or .NET
mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
I agree, if you see the chart bellow you can see the formation of the uptrend pattern very soon to happen here...
Thanks and Richard will be emailing me once John does purchase and I will post it.
1. File a Prelim Proxy (Pre 14a) - DONE
2. Followed by a Definitive Proxy Filing (Def 14a) - DONE
3. Followed by a Prelim Information Statement Filing - (Pre 14c) - DONE
Only 2 steps left before name change and 5 left before new trading symbol:
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4. Followed by a Definitive Information Statement Filing (Def 14c) -
5. Followed by a mailing by our Transfer Agent to shareholders of record
6. Followed by the actual name change
7. Followed by Request for a new CUSIP#
8. Followed by a Request for a new trading symbol
9. Followed by the symbol being granted.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Mav,Take a look at Williams%R and Slow Stochs in the attached chart. The last time we trade in this oversold territory... the stock finished consolidation... and the "Bulls Seized Control". In mid-November when it happened... after the reversal the stock moved up more than 200% in 10 days. This exact same pattern occured in mid-September. I expect nothing less from these levels.
daclyyay[pb50!b200][vc60][iUk14!Lh14,3]&pref=G]http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=PGHI,uu[m,a]daclyyay[pb50!b2 00][vc60][iUk14!Lh14,3]&pref=G*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
Well this chart is a graphic display of the Dic. 9th news, I know this, The WILLIAMS %R indicator is flashing a screaming BUY signal, the indicator is dancing constantly in overbought area, this is a BUY signal, The Williams %R has an interesting peculiarity, it has the ability to anticipate a reversal in the stock price, this indicator almost always forms a peak a few days before the stock's price turns up. Likewise, Williams %R usually creates a trough and turns up a few days before the stock's price turns up.
You will notice in my recent analysis that I included the strong possibility of a "Christmas Rally" forthcoming. I used a combination of technical analysis and historical performance.
CHRISTMAS RALLY?
Historically, the days before and after Christmas and Thanksgiving holidays have produced above average returns with strong frequency numbers for the markets Both the frequency and gains for these two particular trading days have been far superior to market averages. (Time in Time Out, Thackray & Lindsay.). Although I had not applied this trading strategy to bb stocks in the past, I was pleasantly surprised to see that PGHI traded well in the “days” preceding Thanksgiving with a trend that produced substantial gains in the following days. Can we assume that a similar pattern will happen into the Christmas Holiday. Never underestimate the power of the market?
I think the book "Time in, Time Out" is a great book to read. It offers exceptional historical insight for stock trends that have occured for many years. Highly recommended!
mach
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Well Mav... I can say this.... I had never used Williams%R in past analysis until you brought it to my attention. After seeing what happened each time GameZNflix was previously oversold... it really excited me! I'm glad we could bring this to the attention of the board! mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
Yes, you can notice the Williams %R very clear in this chart for PGHI, i tell you this is the moment ...
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I have had an order in at .029 for a while and everyone is selling at .027, but I can't get my order filled. This sux
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I have had an order in at .029 for a while and everyone is selling at .027, but I can't get my order filled. This sux
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Originally posted by Mav:
But I can see buying order going @ 0.029
Mach,
I would like tro thank you for been so honest and helpful to all the new investors here, your posts are both informative and so non pump.
Thansk again and go PGHI
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Yes it is... I'm watching macd today also... Appears the MACD histogram is beginning to move again upward toward the centerline. The MACD histogram is a great signal that precedes the MACD crossover by several days... and further reinforces my forecast that we will see a significant upward trend begin to develop around December 23rd... Only a few days before Christmas and then extending into the holidays! We should see substantial news supporting this move. mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
MACH... bENit has problems buying, any ideas !!.
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Ya I saw that too. But mine won't go. I wonder if I should try some smaller amounts. Break it up a little. Or maybe I will wait it out. Any suggestions
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Originally posted by Mav:
MACH... bENit has problems buying, any ideas !!.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by machtabow2:
[B]I have often placed buy orders that have taken hours to go through even when the Ask was at my price. .....
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I hate to raise my prise. Last time I did that I chased it
I have been monitoring PGHI and this board
for a while now and find it very informative.
You guys evidently have a great deal of knowledge on investing and your research has been very impressive. I am new to the pennies and my trading experience is very limited, but I do know a lot about building a business. As of now I won't be much help
as far as technical research, charting, etc.
but I will share with you what I am good at... Building Business. My advice for everyone that has a stake in this company is
this. If you are a shareholder then you are in fact an owner of this company, and as an owner you should work just as hard at promoting the company itself and not just the stock. If you get involved in promoting the company (use their services, tell everyone you know about their services, etc.) the company will grow and so will the price of your stock.
Buck
Uncle Buck
*** Future's so Bright! ***
mach
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Originally posted by chrissy_a:
Mach,I would like tro thank you for been so honest and helpful to all the new investors here, your posts are both informative and so non pump.
Thansk again and go PGHI
Mav...glad to see you back. Your analysis is top notch!
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Originally posted by old mullet:
no one can fault you for your ability to express yourself mach. very well written opening prose and certainly non fiction. i think many here are following this thread and will take away some investment savy even if they don't invest any money. if pghi continues to trade sideways or gives me more opportunity, i will continue to buy more to increase my position. this is golden opportunity at these levels and i concurr with what you have stated both eloquently and enthusiasticly in past posts. a stock like pghi doesn't come along that often. i can't wait to see that little "you've got news" icon in pghi's column on my streamer for months to come. you can keep my "m" on the team.i hope everyone can take full responsibility for their investments and continue to contribute opinion and the elements for a good multilateral discussion with a minimum of unnecessary bickering. a good discussion and even a debate can be invigorating and productive. thanks for starting this thread so well mach. you are a real asset to us all here.
umcle milty
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Originally posted by buckstalker:
machI have been monitoring PGHI and this board
for a while now and find it very informative.
You guys evidently have a great deal of knowledge on investing and your research has been very impressive. I am new to the pennies and my trading experience is very limited, but I do know a lot about building a business. As of now I won't be much help
as far as technical research, charting, etc.
but I will share with you what I am good at... Building Business. My advice for everyone that has a stake in this company is
this. If you are a shareholder then you are in fact an owner of this company, and as an owner you should work just as hard at promoting the company itself and not just the stock. If you get involved in promoting the company (use their services, tell everyone you know about their services, etc.) the company will grow and so will the price of your stock.Buck
Uncle Buck
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach, my level 2 marks only 1 MM left @0.029 please confirm ...[QUOTE]Originally posted by machtabow2:
[B]I have often placed buy orders that have taken hours to go through even when the Ask was at my price. .....
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Originally posted by PSU90:
Mach....you know where I stand on this one! Milty said it perfectly.Mav...glad to see you back. Your analysis is top notch!
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Originally posted by PSU90:
Mach....you know where I stand on this one! Milty said it perfectly.Mav...glad to see you back. Your analysis is top notch!
If any of you have websites you should display a link to VeeGeeZ even if it is located on sub pages. They will at least get a link ranking from it. For those of you that do not understand the importance of link ranking, Google and some of the bigger search engine position you by keyword density and link ranking.
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Originally posted by buckstalker:
machI have been monitoring PGHI and this board
for a while now and find it very informative.
You guys evidently have a great deal of knowledge on investing and your research has been very impressive. I am new to the pennies and my trading experience is very limited, but I do know a lot about building a business. As of now I won't be much help
as far as technical research, charting, etc.
but I will share with you what I am good at... Building Business. My advice for everyone that has a stake in this company is
this. If you are a shareholder then you are in fact an owner of this company, and as an owner you should work just as hard at promoting the company itself and not just the stock. If you get involved in promoting the company (use their services, tell everyone you know about their services, etc.) the company will grow and so will the price of your stock.Buck
Uncle Buck
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
I agree I have 7 websites and I advertise VeeGeeZ on all of them. I have asked VeeGeeZ for 486x60 banner so I can place it on the home pages.If any of you have websites you should display a link to VeeGeeZ even if it is located on sub pages. They will at least get a link ranking from it. For those of you that do not understand the importance of link ranking, Google and some of the bigger search engine position you by keyword density and link ranking.
Thats the idea!! The best marketing tool out there is "Word Of Mouth". I am a divisional QN Rep with the Big 3 and deal with tens of thousands of people. My goal is to tell everyone of them about "Our Company".
Buck
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
I am watching MM strength build on the bid today Now 3 MM at .027. Would like to see the bulls continue to strengthen into next week. mach
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Originally posted by buckstalker:
PBThats the idea!! The best marketing tool out there is "Word Of Mouth". I am a divisional QN Rep with the Big 3 and deal with tens of thousands of people. My goal is to tell everyone of them about "Our Company".
Buck
Quality Network
buck
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach, I added a new position this morning, consolidation soon will be over and we will be over 0.03
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Originally posted by buckstalker:
machQuality Network
buck
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
Yes, the keyword density of the word gameznflix and the link ranking of allstock made them come up first on your search. If you do not have a website you can get a free hosting and make a page about VeeGeeZ an put a link on it. Them submit it to search engine (manual submittion). This will help VeeGeeZ ranking in the search engine and keep it on top.
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
Yes, the keyword density of the word gameznflix and the link ranking of allstock made them come up first on your search. If you do not have a website you can get a free hosting and make a page about VeeGeeZ an put a link on it. Them submit it to search engine (manual submittion). This will help VeeGeeZ ranking in the search engine and keep it on top.
You guessed right. I have been with GM for 27 years.... 3 to go and the with the help of PGHI, very laid back retirement.
buck
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Originally posted by buckstalker:
machYou guessed right. I have been with GM for 27 years.... 3 to go and the with the help of PGHI, very laid back retirement.
buck
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Originally posted by Mav:
Buying pressure continues @ 0.028
only submit the free web hosting site that you designed. If you submit VeeGeeZ and VeeGeeZ is also submitting they could be banned from the search engines. And auto submits are 9 time out of ten rejected that is why I state manual submit to search engine. If you are not sur how to manual submit then go to google and search manual submit and they will list company that will tell you how to. and yes I do website designs and hosting.
Let rally this stock by promoting it to as many people as we can.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
pb... are you suggesting a manual submission to any search engine... I'm aware that there are many free engines in the world... I guess the question is... can you do a free submission to some of the engines like google.... with your site? mach
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
almost a million shares have been sold in the last 4 minutes
Yes hunting season is from Oct 1st thru Dec 31st. Freezer's already full 2 bucks 2 does.
Now it's time to get serious about making some money. I was just up in the Rogers City area...Black Lake, nice area!
buck
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
almost a million shares have been sold in the last 4 minutes
*** Future's so bright! ***
mach
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Originally posted by buckstalker:
machYes hunting season is from Oct 1st thru Dec 31st. Freezer's already full 2 bucks 2 does.
Now it's time to get serious about making some money. I was just up in the Rogers City area...Black Lake, nice area!buck
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
You mean almost a million shares have "exchanged hands". Many investors here own more than a million shares alone and are not selling them anytime soon. Others are accumulating at these levels. One day soon... we will be trading 20 million plus daily if not more. mach
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
You mean almost a million shares have "exchanged hands". Many investors here own more than a million shares alone and are not selling them anytime soon. Others are accumulating at these levels. One day soon... we will be trading 20 million plus daily if not more. mach
[QUOTE]Originally posted by machtabow2:
[B]You mean almost a million shares have "exchanged hands". ...
Many people know this is a great stock, including myself. However, there are several out there that hold similar potential.
PGHI is going to tread water right here until additional news comes out. Some people are taking out there money for quickies in other penny stocks... including myself. I'll hop back in as we draw closer to year end. I plan on riding this thing to 1.00.
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Originally posted by tigerontop:
Mach...the whole advertising ideas could really give a big push and really like the ideas eveyone has pulled together. Keep in mind that myself will and everyone else can target news groups and chat rooms from your major search engines and target your big gamers. This could really start the domino affect of word of mouth. Thanks for all you work! Its honestly greatly appreciated!
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach, I see more buying pressure @0.028 and I think it's gone. Please check.[QUOTE]Originally posted by machtabow2:
[B]You mean almost a million shares have "exchanged hands". ...
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"I do not personally play video games..."
i thought this streamer console was a video game. veegeez! i wish i could have rented it before i bought it. hey, maybe this is a good idea for a business. watcha think?
uncle milty
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach... more buying @ 0.029, my techicals look good!!.[This message has been edited by Mav (edited December 17, 2003).]
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Originally posted by DeportAllNabobs:
back in @.028. I agree word of mouth will do wonders for the price of this stock. However talking up this company on most of the other boards out there would be futile as most of them more closely resemble a third grade lunchroom than an investor's message board
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Originally posted by old mullet:
to quote you mach:"I do not personally play video games..."
i thought this streamer console was a video game. veegeez! i wish i could have rented it before i bought it. hey, maybe this is a good idea for a business. watcha think?uncle milty
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Originally posted by Mav:
I overlooked it, BID also up @ 0.028...
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Yes 2 MM @ .028.... strengthening well today! mach
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try 50k trades with no restrictions and use that last digit. last time i posted this i found i had to bump the last digit to 2 or 7 to stay ahead of the people trying that trick with 1 or 6. the aon seemed to hang up my trades on mon and tuesday, so i went to no restrictions and they started to fill better. hope you fill your cart amigo.
uncle milty
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach, ASK @ 0.029 and BID @ 0.026, big spread ..
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cabbage22 - thank technical analysis for God
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Originally posted by old mullet:
betinit,try 50k trades with no restrictions and use that last digit. last time i posted this i found i had to bump the last digit to 2 or 7 to stay ahead of the people trying that trick with 1 or 6. the aon seemed to hang up my trades on mon and tuesday, so i went to no restrictions and they started to fill better. hope you fill your cart amigo.
uncle milty
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Originally posted by adrenalix:
mach, thought you should know that someone posted your PGHI review here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GAMEZNFLIX/
Finally...
I wanna see BAMM @ higher levels,too..
GL
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach, as I told you before, this is the time, many will see this opportunity coming soon.
looks like some strength or maybe lack of weakness is a better description in the last few trades.
uncle milty
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Originally posted by raven76:
Schwab @ the highest bid after a long time..Finally...
I wanna see BAMM @ higher levels,too..
GL
who snagged the .0261 trades?
uncle milty
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Originally posted by old mullet:
volume has really dried up. maybe we are starting to see the believers/weak hand ratio improving.who snagged the .0261 trades?
uncle milty
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Yes, you are right! I know that a lot of people missed the last trip after several days of consolidation. Even PSU told me he sold at .018 and then it ran big time after consolidation was complete and PGHI was oversold. Boy it's looking good! That's for sure! mach
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Originally posted by PSU90:
Mach....did you really have to remind me of that mental lapse.....LOL!!
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Oh PSU... Sorry about that. Aren't you suppose to be in Hungary "like" tommorrow? mach
I was just over at RB... What is the point of that board, there is nothing there but crap, people spamming, bashing, and no DD.
Feels good to be back here with some sensible technicians
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
I like the little pop we have going now-I was just over at RB... What is the point of that board, there is nothing there but crap, people spamming, bashing, and no DD.
Feels good to be back here with some sensible technicians
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Originally posted by Mav:
Look just now BID up @ 0.029
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Wow! Buying Pressure increasing into the close significantly! Two MM at .027/.028 gone! Only one left at .029! Good!
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach, I tell you, i have been watching this very closely, and just LOOK at the MACD for today.... I tell you it is becoming more bullish ...
GL
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Originally posted by Mav:
This is happening slowly, people buying and buying in small orders. !!
TIA Chris
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
New Banner just given to me so I can add it to my websites.
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It is impossible for someone to predict future price movements. Only the market can determine that... but I can say that once we break .05... we are really off to the races. When you trade in an area in which the stock has never been before... you often see a very big move. There is no selling pressure at all (Nobody has bought or is holding at higher prices) Also .05 has been a psychological barrier in two previous break attempts. The third attempt is often the charm. The psychological expectation will be at least .10 on the first run... after such a break and could go higher. I still believe that a few months from now it will likely be trading higher than that... possibly .30.
imho
mach
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Originally posted by chrissy_a:
Hi Mach my last entry was at .031. I have entered this stock at 7 different price ranges starting from .0075 to .031.
Question do you see .031 as a good entry point ? Also when news of the nerw site is out what range would you expect to see this trade to ?TIA Chris
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Originally posted by chrissy_a:
So mav you can see this go up even before news of the site ? this would make for a very good pps when the news then hits
I espically like how you make time ot answer new investors qestions
Chris
140 posts in a trading day! not bad team. no bickering and no bs. just amigos with a common goal.
uncle milty
too bad those aren't "im buddies" on that banner. them maybe mrxte would have some news.
your name brings back memories of what there was before video games. those real steel ball pinball machines that you would shake and coax to just before the tilt buzzer went off causing you to lose the game. i dumped allot of lunch money into those things before i graduated to the pool halls of detroit. training for penny stocks i guess.
uncle milty
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Originally posted by old mullet:
pbwizard,too bad those aren't "im buddies" on that banner. them maybe mrxte would have some news.
your name brings back memories of what there was before video games. those real steel ball pinball machines that you would shake and coax to just before the tilt buzzer went off causing you to lose the game. i dumped allot of lunch money into those things before i graduated to the pool halls of detroit. training for penny stocks i guess.
uncle milty
*** The Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
New website update. They have plan as long as the site testing works it will up within couple of weeks. VeeGeeZ.com will not be changing its name only Points Group Holding is changing to Gameznflix. VeeGeeZ.com will contenue to be VeeGeeZ. I just received an eMail from VeeGeeZ in reply of my Questions about the above.
Didn't know you were from Detroit. A lot of Michiganders here including myself. To bad at least you and I now live in a warmer climate. mach
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Originally posted by old mullet:
pbwizard,too bad those aren't "im buddies" on that banner. them maybe mrxte would have some news.
your name brings back memories of what there was before video games. those real steel ball pinball machines that you would shake and coax to just before the tilt buzzer went off causing you to lose the game. i dumped allot of lunch money into those things before i graduated to the pool halls of detroit. training for penny stocks i guess.
uncle milty
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
PB. This is outstanding news. As the market begins to anticipate the launch... we will gradually see GameZNflix (PGHI) stock walk back up! Outstanding Work! Im excited! That's what I call DD!*** The Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by Degs:
This may be a dumb question,but i'm trying to do some research and don't know where to look. I'm wandering how long was Netflix was a penny stock and where it all started.... any help would be appreciated thank you
Mike
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Netflix started as an IPO. mach
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To answer my own question- PGHI is a holding group, so maybe they will have a seperate company solely for DVDs, and have them both operate under gameznflix.
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
New website update. They have plan as long as the site testing works it will up within couple of weeks. VeeGeeZ.com will not be changing its name only Points Group Holding is changing to Gameznflix. VeeGeeZ.com will contenue to be VeeGeeZ. I just received an eMail from VeeGeeZ in reply of my Questions about the above.
i thought it meant pin ball wizard like in the song. believe me you are better off being the palm beach wizard. you know about the im buddies and mrxt"e"? interesting story of the company that made the yoyo in it's con related current incarnation. glad you're on the team bro.
update on the last trade. a trade for 800k shares went through at 16:04 pm @ .0275. looks like that will be the price at the bell manana.
mach, i spent my first 20 years in motown right about where the movie 8-mile was filmed. it didn't look quite that bad back then, but the characters were about the same except trade james brown and the supremes for the rappers. great place to be FROM. where is you're sunny base. you probably mentioned it before, but there is allot to keep up with trading pennies and posting.
uncle milty
Can someone explain me clearly
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
PB. This is outstanding news. As the market begins to anticipate the launch... we will gradually see GameZNflix (PGHI) stock walk back up! Outstanding Work! Im excited! That's what I call DD!*** The Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Netflix IPO yields $82.5 million
By The New York Times. [New York Times: Business]
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Why would PGHI change its name to Gameznflix, but not change the name of the VeeGeez website? It doesn't make sense to me. I understand that they will want to keep the good name and followers that veegeez has, but then what is the point of the whole Gameznflix name?To answer my own question- PGHI is a holding group, so maybe they will have a seperate company solely for DVDs, and have them both operate under gameznflix.
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Originally posted by old mullet:
pbwizard,i thought it meant pin ball wizard like in the song. believe me you are better off being the palm beach wizard. you know about the im buddies and mrxt"e"? interesting story of the company that made the yoyo in it's con related current incarnation. glad you're on the team bro.
update on the last trade. a trade for 800k shares went through at 16:04 pm @ .0275. looks like that will be the price at the bell manana.
mach, i spent my first 20 years in motown right about where the movie 8-mile was filmed. it didn't look quite that bad back then, but the characters were about the same except trade james brown and the supremes for the rappers. great place to be FROM. where is you're sunny base. you probably mentioned it before, but there is allot to keep up with trading pennies and posting.
uncle milty
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Why would PGHI change its name to Gameznflix, but not change the name of the VeeGeez website? It doesn't make sense to me. I understand that they will want to keep the good name and followers that veegeez has, but then what is the point of the whole Gameznflix name?To answer my own question- PGHI is a holding group, so maybe they will have a seperate company solely for DVDs, and have them both operate under gameznflix.
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
Well if they change VeeGeeZ they will loose all the work they have done. Building link populatity, Company Branding, etc. I think they have plan in the future to one day to incorp. the two together but they first need to start branding and gathering link populatity for Gameznflix first. This could take 6mths or more even with the outstanding marketing company thay have hired.
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Originally posted by coumars:
So do they create webiste link.??
I checked them, still banner shows VeeGeez , then is it not difficult to change customers who r used to visit VeeGeez.com
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
Sound good on paper but internet surfers do not like change. Improvement Yes. Change is risky when tring to grow a internet business. Once they are a giant that would a different thing. John Fleming seems to be very smart in the and update on internet surfers. I think he has made the right move for the business, customers and shareholders by not making a change of this degree. There are steps to make changes like this and the steps take time.
The banner that was given to me by Lance is on my server so it would look like this but with no spaces (I will include spaces so you can see how I did it.
[img] http:// www.gousatravel.us /images /veegeez.gif [/img]
Now without spaces
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Originally posted by coumars:
Can you please explain me how u got banner on ur previosu post.?
*** GREAT DAYS AHEAD ***
MACH
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
I emailed the company a list of questions this evening, I hope they reply tomorrow.
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
You first place [img] the address of the banner and [/img]The banner that was given to me by Lance is on my server so it would look like this but with no spaces (I will include spaces so you can see how I did it.
[img] http:// www.gousatravel.us /images /veegeez.gif [/img]Now without spaces
Thought you find this interesting.
SEATTLE, Dec 17 (Reuters) - Online DVD rental service Netflix Inc. (NFLX) on Wednesday raised its expectations for fourth-quarter subscriber growth, sending its shares up by more than 10 percent.
The fast-growing DVD rental company, where subscribers choose DVDs online and have them delivered via mail, said it saw the number of subscribers at the end of the quarter growing to a range of 1.47 million to 1.495 million, compared with an earlier projected range of 1.425 million to 1.475 million.
The Los Gatos, California-based company also reported lower churn, or fewer monthly cancellations, and that its subscriber acquisition cost, or the money spent on having each new subscriber sign up, was also down.
Netflix said it is now expecting net income of $900,000 to $2.6 million during the fourth quarter instead of its previous outlook for a loss of $200,000 to a profit of $2.3 million.
Excluding stock-based compensation, Netflix said it expects a profit of $4.5 million to $6.5 million, up from the previous range of between $3.0 million and $6.0 million.
Revenue in the quarter would be between $80 million and $82 million rather than the previously estimated $77 million to $81 million, it said.
Shares in Netflix were up $4.50, or 10.1 percent, in late Nasdaq trade at $49.30.
Netflix said it will release its fourth quarter 2003 financial results on Jan. 21. REUTERS
Why would they change their name to GAMES N FLIX and not use it on the site.My take is that GAMES N FLIX will become a seperate umbrella for a multitude of venues in the video / game industry.It seems painfully obvious to me that VEEGEEZ is a testing ground in helping build the name GAMES N FLIX into a BRAND NAME.I would not be suprised if GAMES N FLIX retail chains will be popping up like Starbucks.I am smelling a long term plan in building a BRAND not just a business.When you want a DVD or Movie your going to end up at GAMES N FLIX.Just my take on a 5 year plan.
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"Why would they change their name to GAMES N FLIX and not use it on the site.My take is that GAMES N FLIX will become a seperate umbrella for a multitude of venues in the video / game industry.It seems painfully obvious to me that VEEGEEZ is a testing ground in helping build the name GAMES N FLIX into a BRAND NAME.I would not be suprised if GAMES N FLIX retail chains will be popping up like Starbucks.I am smelling a long term plan in building a BRAND not just a business.When you want a DVD or Movie your going to end up at GAMES N FLIX.Just my take on a 5 year plan."
Also to elaborate... you will find attached an email from John Fleming to an investor regarding "brick & mortar" locations.
"AFI Capital, Inc. was a venture capital company which we closed to focus on PGHI. I used that e-mail address to copy myself on the last e-mail so I could see how the e-mail was received.
There are things happening which I cannot discuss at this point in time. The business plan calls for focus 1st on Video Game Market, Brick & Mortor location(s), DVD rental market and further plans.
There is much going on which will follow the name change and etc. Basicly, will be focusing on the business model of NetFlix with additional areas.
I was sitting here working an e-mail to folks such as yourself on my e-list accouncing the PPM.
So you can be #1
We are offering a PPM Rule 144 stock investment in the following:
Min investment $2,500.00
Offering Stock Price $.02
If interested forward your complete contact information.
So now I hope you feel very special being the very 1st person asked with regards to the PPM
Cheers,
John Fleming, CEO
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated "
I find your post discussing possible "retail" locations to be a very strong possibility after reading Mr. Flemings mention of "Brick & Mortar"
Brick & Mortar often makes reference to retail in Corporate America.
mach
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH...Interesting numbers!Thought you find this interesting.
SEATTLE, Dec 17 (Reuters) - Online DVD rental service Netflix Inc. (NFLX) on Wednesday raised its expectations for fourth-quarter subscriber growth, sending its shares up by more than 10 percent.
The fast-growing DVD rental company, where subscribers choose DVDs online and have them delivered via mail, said it saw the number of subscribers at the end of the quarter growing to a range of 1.47 million to 1.495 million, compared with an earlier projected range of 1.425 million to 1.475 million.
The Los Gatos, California-based company also reported lower churn, or fewer monthly cancellations, and that its subscriber acquisition cost, or the money spent on having each new subscriber sign up, was also down.
Netflix said it is now expecting net income of $900,000 to $2.6 million during the fourth quarter instead of its previous outlook for a loss of $200,000 to a profit of $2.3 million.
Excluding stock-based compensation, Netflix said it expects a profit of $4.5 million to $6.5 million, up from the previous range of between $3.0 million and $6.0 million.
Revenue in the quarter would be between $80 million and $82 million rather than the previously estimated $77 million to $81 million, it said.
Shares in Netflix were up $4.50, or 10.1 percent, in late Nasdaq trade at $49.30.
Netflix said it will release its fourth quarter 2003 financial results on Jan. 21. REUTERS
Why would they change their name to GAMES N FLIX and not use it on the site.My take is that GAMES N FLIX will become a seperate umbrella for a multitude of venues in the video / game industry.It seems painfully obvious to me that VEEGEEZ is a testing ground in helping build the name GAMES N FLIX into a BRAND NAME.I would not be suprised if GAMES N FLIX retail chains will be popping up like Starbucks.I am smelling a long term plan in building a BRAND not just a business.When you want a DVD or Movie your going to end up at GAMES N FLIX.Just my take on a 5 year plan.
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Thank you to all that have contributed.
I will try share as much as possible of my resources. - Marty
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quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
http://users.adelphia.net/~x1f2/
Great job this what we need to rally!!!
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Very good DD here.Thank you to all that have contributed.
I will try share as much as possible of my resources. - Marty[This message has been edited by m_h13021 (edited December 17, 2003).]
[This message has been edited by pbwizard (edited December 17, 2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
mach, i have a friend who also thinks that we should see some action from now on, he also do techs and has the same opinion that i have.
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Mav... I think every single person on the boards admires and respects your tech analysis. I certainly do. We are really going to "rock" in the coming weeks. I'm starting to get to the point where I'm so excited about the company that I can not sleep. I'm a GameZNFlix PGHI Addict!!!!!!!
By the way... what do you think of the possibility of "Brick & Mortar" location(s) as discussed briefly on this board and per J.F. email. mach
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Mav... I think every single person on the boards admires and respects your tech analysis. I certainly do. We are really going to "rock" in the coming weeks. I'm starting to get to the point where I'm so excited about the company that I can not sleep. I'm a GameZNFlix PGHI Addict!!!!!!!
By the way... what do you think of the possibility of "Brick & Mortar" location(s) as discussed briefly on this board and per J.F. email. mach
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There are things happening which I cannot discuss at this point in time. The business plan calls for focus 1st on Video Game Market, Brick & Mortor location(s), DVD rental market and further plans.
There is much going on which will follow the name change and etc. Basicly, will be focusing on the business model of NetFlix with additional areas.
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Originally posted by Mav:
Can you repost it, i don't find it...
quote:
Originally posted by coumars:
Brick & Mortar what are they ???. Is it new acqusistion for PGHI???
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"Why would they change their name to GAMES N FLIX and not use it on the site.My take is that GAMES N FLIX will become a seperate umbrella for a multitude of venues in the video / game industry.It seems painfully obvious to me that VEEGEEZ is a testing ground in helping build the name GAMES N FLIX into a BRAND NAME.I would not be suprised if GAMES N FLIX retail chains will be popping up like Starbucks.I am smelling a long term plan in building a BRAND not just a business.When you want a DVD or Movie your going to end up at GAMES N FLIX.Just my take on a 5 year plan."
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quote:
Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH...Interesting numbers!Thought you find this interesting.
SEATTLE, Dec 17 (Reuters) - Online DVD rental service Netflix Inc. (NFLX) on Wednesday raised its expectations for fourth-quarter subscriber growth, sending its shares up by more than 10 percent.
The fast-growing DVD rental company, where subscribers choose DVDs online and have them delivered via mail, said it saw the number of subscribers at the end of the quarter growing to a range of 1.47 million to 1.495 million, compared with an earlier projected range of 1.425 million to 1.475 million.
The Los Gatos, California-based company also reported lower churn, or fewer monthly cancellations, and that its subscriber acquisition cost, or the money spent on having each new subscriber sign up, was also down.
Netflix said it is now expecting net income of $900,000 to $2.6 million during the fourth quarter instead of its previous outlook for a loss of $200,000 to a profit of $2.3 million.
Excluding stock-based compensation, Netflix said it expects a profit of $4.5 million to $6.5 million, up from the previous range of between $3.0 million and $6.0 million.
Revenue in the quarter would be between $80 million and $82 million rather than the previously estimated $77 million to $81 million, it said.
Shares in Netflix were up $4.50, or 10.1 percent, in late Nasdaq trade at $49.30.
Netflix said it will release its fourth quarter 2003 financial results on Jan. 21. REUTERS
Why would they change their name to GAMES N FLIX and not use it on the site.My take is that GAMES N FLIX will become a seperate umbrella for a multitude of venues in the video / game industry.It seems painfully obvious to me that VEEGEEZ is a testing ground in helping build the name GAMES N FLIX into a BRAND NAME.I would not be suprised if GAMES N FLIX retail chains will be popping up like Starbucks.I am smelling a long term plan in building a BRAND not just a business.When you want a DVD or Movie your going to end up at GAMES N FLIX.Just my take on a 5 year plan.
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in this case refers to adding other distribution centers. I am sure it has been posted prior but PGHI has started their Brick & Mortar build with the addition of the east coast distribution center(see link). - Marty
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/031209/060847.html
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Brick & Mortar.....in this case refers to adding other distribution centers. I am sure it has been posted prior but PGHI has started their Brick & Mortar build with the addition of the east coast distribution center(see link). - Marty
http://www.knobias.com/individual/raidar/story1. 3.htm?eid=3.1.1c0a7bb6e63693c42753c7cb72f2e8ca590ce2118bfaad02aad4b1c9f9282880
So you think my nose was on point with the brick & mortar?Can you tell me how the PPM works? On another topic I thought I saw a post of yours on IIBI...was that your post or am I mistaken..
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Once again thank you for the compliment. - Marty
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH,So you think my nose was on point with the brick & mortar?Can you tell me how the PPM works? On another topic I thought I saw a post of yours on IIBI...was that your post or am I mistaken..
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Well, I am truly flattered but in no way am I affiliated with PGHI. I am stock holder as of 7/2003. I am just reiterating the information that I have or have been given. Raging Bull has been a good DD site for most of my information. You have to cut thru allot of BS on the board but it is there. Really good Long investors there.
Anyway, who all is invested here? There is a PPM available now to current investors only. Investors interested should email John Fleming ceo@pghi.biz - This is only available to current stock holders as of now.Once again thank you for the compliment. - Marty
I see one of your banners is hosted on domainmasters.net are you aff domainmasters.net?
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Well, I am truly flattered but in no way am I affiliated with PGHI. I am stock holder as of 7/2003. I am just reiterating the information that I have or have been given. Raging Bull has been a good DD site for most of my information. You have to cut thru allot of BS on the board but it is there. Really good Long investors there.
Anyway, who all is invested here? There is a PPM available now to current investors only. Investors interested should email John Fleming ceo@pghi.biz - This is only available to current stock holders as of now.Once again thank you for the compliment. - Marty
Saw a post that there may have been an 80M
share transaction this afternoon.What is your take?About the PPM ...how does that work.
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Sounds like you are in the biz. Your suggestion is a great idea. So why don't you give me a push in the right direction and give me some content ideas. I am requesting this, because you said "heavy with keywords" OK fire off some keywords. I don't want to get too involved with the text content so please make it light. Thanks -
[This message has been edited by m_h13021 (edited December 17, 2003).]
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH,IBIISaw a post that there may have been an 80M
share transaction this afternoon.What is your take?About the PPM ...how does that work.TRSTURGUT-18
<META name="description" content="Veegeez banner site">
<META name="keywords" content="games, games, games, games, etc">
For the pictures add ALT="somewords" tags, so the web crawlers pick up your images as words, leads to a better listing
<img src="http://www.veegeez.com/images/BannerHome3.gif" alt="word">
Submitting to google will take 6-12 months to even show up without tons of content
I wasn't surprised to see the previous PGHI thread on google, so much content.
Anyway hopes this helps
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
http://users.adelphia.net/~x1f2/
Thanks for all your help!
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quote:
Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH,Thanks for all your help!
TRSTURGUT-18
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
That link of banners is just a basic compilation put together to show all that is out there right now for ad banners. Now they are just hyperlinked from their rightful owners(not actually hosting image). The top one as you know is from the www.gameznflix.com site. The four equally sized is the rotation of both veegeez and gameznflix. Finally the large one at the bottom was snagged from www.gamespot.com YES gamespot. Can't wait till 2004 -
[This message has been edited by m_h13021 (edited December 17, 2003).]
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
Here I slapped together a page that is simple to the point with keyword density. It could be worked up a little more with a little more time http://www.gousatravel.us/veegeez/
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Just looking at the source code-
Add meta description and meta keywords<META name="description" content="Veegeez banner site">
<META name="keywords" content="games, games, games, games, etc">For the pictures add ALT="somewords" tags, so the web crawlers pick up your images as words, leads to a better listing
<img src="http://www.veegeez.com/images/BannerHome3.gif" alt="word">Submitting to google will take 6-12 months to even show up without tons of content
I wasn't surprised to see the previous PGHI thread on google, so much content.Anyway hopes this helps
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
When I submit manually to google I see it within a week. How do you submit to Google?
here the link to manual submit to google
http://www.google.com/addurl.html
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
How do you submitt manually in google? This is good info. pb...do you design web sites? mach
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
machhere the link to manual submit to google
http://www.google.com/addurl.html
the text link is not visible because it is white text, just anal about certain things. -
Currently I have two sites http://www.oscarcichlid.com
and http://www.stocktechs.com
I haven't developed stocktechs yet, its been finals week here so I havent had much time. I did add the sweet veegeez banner to my other one though.
I think I'm going to use stocktechs to post longer term tech picks- Im not too sure yet. I just had to buy it, such a sweet name I didnt want anyone else to grab it!
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cabbage22 - thank technical analysis for God
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
I usually use addpro.com to submit my sites, and they would never come up on google. I recall submitting it manually and it did appear shortly after.Currently I have two sites http://www.oscarcichlid.com
and http://www.stocktechs.comI haven't developed stocktechs yet, its been finals week here so I havent had much time. I did add the sweet veegeez banner to my other one though.
I think I'm going to use stocktechs to post longer term tech picks- Im not too sure yet. I just had to buy it, such a sweet name I didnt want anyone else to grab it!
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
I usually use addpro.com to submit my sites, and they would never come up on google. I recall submitting it manually and it did appear shortly after.Currently I have two sites http://www.oscarcichlid.com
and http://www.stocktechs.comI haven't developed stocktechs yet, its been finals week here so I havent had much time. I did add the sweet veegeez banner to my other one though.
I think I'm going to use stocktechs to post longer term tech picks- Im not too sure yet. I just had to buy it, such a sweet name I didnt want anyone else to grab it!
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Cabbage nice job with the link already... Are you not the Souther guy whom likes to catfish. I'm trying to recall conversations here? mach
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
OK, I believe I have this up to par. Please review again. I have also added the URL to Google via your link. OK?
http://users.adelphia.net/~x1f2the text link is not visible because it is white text, just anal about certain things. -
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Haha, no thats not me. I go to Bentley College in Mass, graduating this spring with a BS in Finance, been trading since 2000. I'm originally from southern maine- I do like to fish, never caught a catfish though. If you have any ideas for stocktechs.com I'd love to hear them.
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
I will add a link from my links page to your page so Google will see a link populatity
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
I'm researching the development of a site. I'm currently looking for a developer here locally... but boy they cost an arm and a leg... considered a template... but would rather be creative. Very developmental... I'm not a website expert... though I have developed a few basic sites. Nice to see you are graduating soon... WallStreet! mach
It is not doing any justice from 1280x1024.
I know I am in the monitor minority.
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
what are you looking for maybe I can help
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Viewing the VG's banner on your site....It is not doing any justice from 1280x1024.
I know I am in the monitor minority.
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Is anyone participating in the PGHI PPM offer? -
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Is anyone participating in the PGHI PPM offer? -
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Originally posted by coumars:
learinng... What is PPM offer??
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Private placement of shares. You give them cash, they give you shares. Minimum investment required, restrictions on selling. For the true longs, friends of the company, employees, etc
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Originally posted by coumars:
Thank You.
How much would be the difference, Can we sell those shares thru Ameritrade or any other.
I already have 70,000 shares bought at 0.027, 0.032,0.037,0.041.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Coumars... These will likely be restricted for a few years. Not a quick gain for you. Good luck. mach
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Email: machtabow@yahoo.com and I'll let you know. Thanks for your help. mach
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
I'm researching the development of a site. I'm currently looking for a developer here locally... but boy they cost an arm and a leg... considered a template... but would rather be creative. Very developmental... I'm not a website expert... though I have developed a few basic sites. Nice to see you are graduating soon... WallStreet! mach
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
I had to resize and lost a little but they are going to give me a better as soon as they have one.
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
OK, I loosened up some server space and got www.stocktechs.com up. The first pick for the site will be PGHI baby!!!!!
This is great news..When I was trading SIRI(my Nasdaq days),
some people were not happy to hear good things about XMSR...But they were wrong..
The better XMSR performed, the more we gained..
When the industry( especially the leaders) does well, the others will follow..
It's obvious that Wallstreet doesn't see us as a part of this industry yet..
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/in?s=NFLX
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=pghi.ob
That is very good, because we are the first ones who discovered this baby..( God, I wish I heard about this one when it was sub-penny..)It's never late....
GL
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Anywhere that I can look at L2 for pinks..cannot on E-TRADE.
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Originally posted by tigerontop:
Mach....I am just down the road in Tampa and know a few guys who are pretty good at sites. They have built tech forum sites for personal use. I will gather all the tools they use. You can have a cheap site that looks like a million dolar site
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH....Anywhere that I can look at L2 for pinks..cannot on E-TRADE.
TRSTURGUT-18
quote:
Originally posted by adrenalix:
mach- check out http://www.msquareone.com they may be able to help you
quote:
Originally posted by raven76:
Dow Jones Business News
Netflix Sees Rapid Subscriber Growth; Co Updates Guidance For 4Q 2003
http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/031217/1647001365_2.htmlThis is great news..When I was trading SIRI(my Nasdaq days),
some people were not happy to hear good things about XMSR...But they were wrong..
The better XMSR performed, the more we gained..When the industry( especially the leaders) does well, the others will follow..
It's obvious that Wallstreet doesn't see us as a part of this industry yet..
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/in?s=NFLX
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=pghi.obThat is very good, because we are the first ones who discovered this baby..( God, I wish I heard about this one when it was sub-penny..)It's never late....
GL
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH....Anywhere that I can look at L2 for pinks..cannot on E-TRADE.
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Try www.knobias.com have used this for years. Will let you pick and choose you preferred streaming data to accommodate your trading markets. Although pricey, has a very good news service. I believe there is a trial period? -
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
New Banner just given to me so I can add it to my websites.
[This message has been edited by pbwizard (edited December 17, 2003).][This message has been edited by pbwizard (edited December 17, 2003).]
[This message has been edited by pbwizard (edited December 17, 2003).]
Great DD reiterated:
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
New website update. They have plan as long as the site testing works it will up within couple of weeks. VeeGeeZ.com will not be changing its name only Points Group Holding is changing to Gameznflix. VeeGeeZ.com will contenue to be VeeGeeZ. I just received an eMail from VeeGeeZ in reply of my Questions about the above.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Well looking forward to another interesting day trading GameZNflix(PGHI). A move past .03 and we will be off to the races. It will be bye-bye .02's for a very long time. mach
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Originally posted by drwright68:
This would be a great place to start a board geared to the end user. Remove the spaces.
http://forums . gamespot . com/gamespot/create_user_board
Hey Doc,
Great idea. I am waiting for the release of the new site, then I am going to spam the site to the B-Jesus. Just dropping the address link is all that will be necessary. Will not offend, just inform. -
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Hey Doc,
Great idea. I am waiting for the release of the new site, then I am going to spam the site to the B-Jesus. Just dropping the address link is all that will be necessary. Will not offend, just inform. -
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
I can notice some buying pressure @0.029 again, small buyers....
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Originally posted by Mav:
I can notice some buying pressure @0.029 again, small buyers....
*** THE FUTURE'S SO BRIGHT ***
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Originally posted by Mav:
Again, bid up @ 0.03, small buyes coming in... buying pressure continues
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Originally posted by Mav:
Now bid up @0.028 ...
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Then the sorry Beestards will have to chase. Let the games begin. -
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Yes... and haven't seen anything go through at the bid.. strengthening. I think there are buyers on the sidelines still waiting for some sort of pullback... If they do not get it soon... we will be off to the races... and .03 will be gone. mach
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by machtabow2:
[b]I think there are buyers on the sidelines still waiting for some sort of pullback... If they do not get it soon... we will be off to the races... and .03 will be gone. mach[/QU
Then the sorry Beestards will have to chase. Let the games begin. -[/B]
They added more NEW titles again yesterday. -
http://www.veegeez.com/
the calm before the storm.
uncle milty
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Originally posted by Mav:
There you have it again, buying pressure @ 0.029, i talked about this yesterday, it's all happening behind the curtains and it is an accumulative buying in small orders.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
GameZNflix RALLY(PGHI) A COMPLETE ANALYSIS
BY MACH December 16, 2003TECHNICAL ANALYSIS & SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS
There is no question that mass psychology has an impact on a stock’s price: Prices are driven by emotions, mainly greed and fear. Technical analysis incorporates price action and volume to produce a blueprint of where a stock has been and where it may go. It traces the emotional extremes of the bulls and the bears to produce clues as to where the greed of fear is the strongest. Knowing how to spot repeating price patterns in the market will provide you with a valuable advantage.
Great traders have proven time and again that they can consistently win by speculating when the odds are in their favor. Whether you have used or desire not to use technical analysis is insignificant. We all use different trading strategies as we make our investment decisions.
What is significant is the fact that many individuals use technical analysis as an indication of (1) Whether to enter a position (2) When to Enter a position (3) And when to exit a position.
A common pattern thoughout the market is that technicians are often the the first to enter a position followed by the general market and momentum traders.
So what do the technicians see happening with PGHI lately? And what will technicians do?
Williams%R & Fast Stochaistics have now signaling that PGHI is moving into oversold territory. During the prior moves into oversold territory in Mid September and mid November PGHI gained several 100%’s gains in the following days after several consecutive days of consolidation. Slow Stochaistics for PGHI indicate that it may trade “sideways” in oversold territory for a few more days(Strong news could change this.) One could speculate based on prior trends that PGHI will likely make a similar move in the near future from the current oversold position and reward current shareholders with a 100%/200%/300% gain or more.
What will technicians be doing during the next few days? Accumulation. (See attached chart)
daclyyay[db][pb50!b200][vc60][iUi14,3!Lk14]&pref=G]http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=PGHI,uu[m,a]daclyyay[db] [pb50!b200][vc60][iUi14,3!Lk14]&pref=GThat’s great if technical analysis were always 100% accurate, but it isn’t. We need to dig a little deeper and discover whether there are any significant developments within the company that will support and substantiate such a move.
SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS
So what are the significant developments occurring now and will they impact shareholder value in the near future?
The first significant development is a corporate name change to GameZNflix Inc. How significant is this? This demonstrates to the shareholder that PGHI is extremely focused on the success of it’s online business to the extent that they are developing much of their current business model around it’s success. "When you review companies like NetFlix.com, and apply a similar model to Veegeez.com it is easy to see the potential of our new subsidiary." President John Fleming continued, "We feel there is a great upside for our shareholders with this acquisition."
Should shareholders be excited? Absolutely! Afterall Netflix pulled off a dot-com IPO and reached profitability faster than anyone predicted. Netflix shares have taken a “gigantic leap” in less than 2 years from $4 to $60. Is itn't unreasonable to assume that GameZNflix shareholders will realize substantial gains from it’s current trading level of .026!
A second significant development is the launch of a new web site designed by Roy Vella, Web & Print Design Service. Lance Wiseman, CTO states, "The signing of this contract begins the next phase of VeeGeeZ.com's business plan to provide enhanced services to its customers. In addition, the new design will not only meet our current video game rental customer base it will setup our expansion into the DVD rental world"
Did he say DVD? A third significant development which will become a much more significant factor in the success of the current business model is the addition of DVD’s to it’s current business model.
The expectation for the launch of online DVD rentals combined with it’s current Online Gaming Rental business is extremely significant. After all Netflix currently does not offer or market Online Video Game Rentals! It will be much more convenient for America to have an subscription service that caters to families that desire both a DVD and Video Game Rental Service! Will this increase the number of people that subsribe to their service? Yes! Will this increase shareholder value? Absolutely!
GREAT EXPECTATIONS
Upon completion of both the final name change and new web site you can expect a much stronger focus on marketing and an increase in subscriptions. On November 5, 2003, PGHI announced that its subsidiary -- online video game rental company, VeeGeeZ.com, LLC -- has signed a contract with Venture Direct Worldwide of New York to handle its online marketing campaign. The experienced staff of Venture Direct Worldwide and VeeGeeZ management has developed a marketing plan to assist the company in moving to the next level.
The success of many company is more often than not the direct result of the success of it’s marketing campaign. How successful will it be? Why don’t we ask some of Venture Direct Worldwide’s current clients which include: Adobe, Microsoft, Citigroup, AT&T, Intel, Xerox, Fortune Magazine and many other successful companies. Do I need to elaborate?
(See attached link:http://www.venturedirect.com/html/vdw_clients.htm)
TIME FRAME
How close are we to seeing these developments significantly impact shareholder value? Current indications are that it will be VERY SOON!Here are the steps leading to the name change:
FYI, the .03 wall is a fake one I think..With a small buying pressure(2.5-3 M), it will dissapear..
Wondering when they will pull the trigger..
GL
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Originally posted by raven76:
Good Morning,FYI, the .03 wall is a fake one I think..With a small buying pressure(2.5-3 M), it will dissapear..
Wondering when they will pull the trigger..GL
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Originally posted by raven76:
Good Morning,FYI, the .03 wall is a fake one I think..With a small buying pressure(2.5-3 M), it will dissapear..
Wondering when they will pull the trigger..GL
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Originally posted by chrissy_a:
Mav not sure if this is accumalation buying ? it kind of weird because this is the first time i have seen this practically come to a stop...no selling or no buying ??
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Originally posted by chrissy_a:
Mav not sure if this is accumalation buying ? it kind of weird because this is the first time i have seen this practically come to a stop...no selling or no buying ??
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Calm before the storm. This is common in trading. During a downtrend period... before a reversal takes place... you will often see trading come to an almost grinding halt. I learned this in "The Market Makers Edge" Day Trading Tactics from a Wall Street Insider. The Bulls will seize control soon. Patience. mach
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Thats one book on my christmas list i hope i get
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Originally posted by JustMe:
Just wanted to let you guys know.....Jumped in to the tune of 170K shares over the last few days. Lets see it FLY!!!!!!
I've been watching this thread for some time and currently have a position in PGHI.
How do you think Veegeez stacks up against the competition? Take a look at this link:
http://www.4dvdrental.com/video-game-rental.html?source=google
Thanks,
FlyWolf
Up on 7 million yesterday... down on 500,000 today! Without using tech analysis... this is certainly an indication that the "Bulls" are "Seizing Control" here. Strong Volume "up days"... and Light Volume "Down Days"... tick-tock... tick-tock... tick-tock... Sellers are drying up... the "Bears" will be running for the bushes soon!
mach
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Originally posted by FlyWolf:
Hello Everyone,I've been watching this thread for some time and currently have a position in PGHI.
How do you think Veegeez stacks up against the competition? Take a look at this link:
http://www.4dvdrental.com/video-game-rental.html?source=googleThanks,
FlyWolf
Good Luck to all!
Anna
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Hey Mav...Up on 7 million yesterday... down on 500,000 today! Without using tech analysis... this is certainly an indication that the "Bulls" are "Seizing Control" here. Strong Volume "up days"... and Light Volume "Down Days"... tick-tock... tick-tock... tick-tock... Sellers are drying up... the "Bears" will be running for the bushes soon!
mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
Again, there you have it, small buy order took place @ 0.029. I don't know, i may be wrong, but I have been looking at it during the last 2 days as I said before. Again, this is only my opinion.... Anybody else ideas will help. Thanks.[This message has been edited by Mav (edited December 18, 2003).]
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First off, I was trying to see if any of the others were publicly traded companies. I wanted to see what they were trading at. I could be wrong, but it seems like they are all private companies.
I like gamefly.com's site. They have a nice "About us" page that talks about the executive leadership of the company and provides a short bio/history for each person.
Many of the others also offer customers the option to buy a game if they like it and want to keep it. I would imagine this might also be a nice source of revenue.
I don't think any of the other sites "feature" the titles that are "out of stock". What I mean is, the current VeeGeez format brings up a list of titles sorted in increments of 10 irrespective of whether they are in stock or not. You end up seeing many titles which are listed as "Out of Stock". For example, a search for New releases of PS2 games yields only 3 out of 10 titles in stock on the first page.
Though these are listed in alphabetical order, it might be good to list the In Stock titles first.. in alphabetical order and let the other out of stock titles follow.
It's a minor thing.. but when you have other sites competing for business, very little things like this will cause a person to go somewhere else.
I had a hard time finding an "out of stock" title at gamefly.com and they only list 100 more titles than VeeGeez. (800 vs 700).
I'm hoping the new site will choose a better format for displaying out of stock titles. Let the customers hunt for the out of stock titles.. but feature the ones that are in stock.
My 2 cents.. ( I still believe Veegeez is worth much more than 3 cents a share)
FlyWolf
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
12:11:02 PM Trade 0.028 25000
12:11:02 PM Trade 0.029 25000
11:24:38 AM Trade 0.027 30000
10:41:30 AM Trade 0.0279 60000
10:41:20 AM Trade 0.029 60000
10:40:14 AM Trade 0.029 6500
10:40:14 AM Trade 0.0285 6500
10:39:30 AM Trade 0.028 2605
10:39:30 AM Trade 0.027 2605
10:26:22 AM Trade 0.0285 11000
10:26:22 AM Trade 0.029 11000
10:18:10 AM Trade 0.0285 82500
10:18:10 AM Trade 0.029 82500
9:58:16 AM Bid 0.027 5000
9:58:16 AM Trade 0.029 17500
9:58:10 AM Trade 0.029 25000
9:58:08 AM Trade 0.028 25000
9:57:58 AM Trade 0.028 30000
9:57:58 AM Trade 0.028 25000
9:56:04 AM Ask 0.029 5000
9:56:04 AM Trade 0.028 5000
9:53:56 AM Trade 0.028 5000
9:44:28 AM Trade 0.029 5000
9:44:10 AM Bid 0.028 5000
9:44:10 AM Trade 0.03 5000
9:43:30 AM Trade 0.03 5000
9:43:12 AM Ask 0.03 5000
9:43:12 AM Trade 0.029 5000
9:42:26 AM Trade 0.029 8000
9:35:10 AM Trade 0.029 17000
9:35:04 AM Trade 0.029 12000
9:34:48 AM Trade 0.029 5000
9:30:20 AM Trade 0.029 5000
9:30:14 AM Trade 0.029 10000
Cheers..
Its called a Time & Sales list, I got it at http://www.freerealtime.com
I've been signed up with them since 2000, I'm not sure if you need to be a memeber to get these numbers or not- its free to join and has some good info
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Thanks-
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Nice buy FlyIts called a Time & Sales list, I got it at http://www.freerealtime.com
I've been signed up with them since 2000, I'm not sure if you need to be a memeber to get these numbers or not- its free to join and has some good info
There is an almost "everyone and there brother" type of realm out there when it come to the video game rental world.
I foresee Gamefly as the only true competition when it goes head to head. The rest will just be taking away subs(subscribers) from either of the two. Right now Gamefly is the leader. This is just based on internet DD. It is really tough to get any other pertinent info because all are private companies. Which leads me to why VeeGeez is going to exploded, first publicly trade company of the sorts.
I really like Gamefly's site and interesting enough it is almost identical in layout to Netflix. If Veegeez comes close to either of the two's simplicity and functionality, we will be winners hands down. -
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Competition:There is an almost "everyone and there brother" type of realm out there when it come to the video game rental world.
I foresee Gamefly as the only true competition when it goes head to head. The rest will just be taking away subs(subscribers) from either of the two. Right now Gamefly is the leader. This is just based on internet DD. It is really tough to get any other pertinent info because all are private companies. Which leads me to why VeeGeez is going to exploded, first publicly trade company of the sorts.
I really like Gamefly's site and interesting enough it is almost identical in layout to Netflix. If Veegeez comes close to either of the two's simplicity and functionality, we will be winners hands down. -
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Great summary. Kudos to you. I am not aware of any competitive companies trading publicly at this time. And yes... GameZNflix (PGHI) will be trading at much higher levles in the near future. Welcome aboard. The train is leaving soon! mach
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Originally posted by FlyWolf:
Mach,First off, I was trying to see if any of the others were publicly traded companies. I wanted to see what they were trading at. I could be wrong, but it seems like they are all private companies.
I like gamefly.com's site. They have a nice "About us" page that talks about the executive leadership of the company and provides a short bio/history for each person.
Many of the others also offer customers the option to buy a game if they like it and want to keep it. I would imagine this might also be a nice source of revenue.
I don't think any of the other sites "feature" the titles that are "out of stock". What I mean is, the current VeeGeez format brings up a list of titles sorted in increments of 10 irrespective of whether they are in stock or not. You end up seeing many titles which are listed as "Out of Stock". For example, a search for New releases of PS2 games yields only 3 out of 10 titles in stock on the first page.
Though these are listed in alphabetical order, it might be good to list the In Stock titles first.. in alphabetical order and let the other out of stock titles follow.
It's a minor thing.. but when you have other sites competing for business, very little things like this will cause a person to go somewhere else.
I had a hard time finding an "out of stock" title at gamefly.com and they only list 100 more titles than VeeGeez. (800 vs 700).
I'm hoping the new site will choose a better format for displaying out of stock titles. Let the customers hunt for the out of stock titles.. but feature the ones that are in stock.
My 2 cents.. ( I still believe Veegeez is worth much more than 3 cents a share)
FlyWolf
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cabbage, i have also used free realtime as one of my important tools. the time and sales is what i use the most. it sure points out when the mms are passing the medecine ball. one of those 3 billion plus days cmkm had i pointed out imense trades going through in the same second in exactly the same size. cooperative mms can make the volume look really significant when there are really no buyers or sellers. just traders. these time and sales figures are key to seeing what happens, both regular and unusual.
uncle milty
*******
Introduction:
To put this summary in the proper context, I thought you should know some info about my background. I am in the web development industry and have worked and designed systems for many major B2B and B2C sites including partners of the big 3: Yahoo, MSN, and AOL. So opinions I post here will be from that standpoint, and less from a stock technical analysis view.
Voluntary Disclosure: I own a large chunk of shares in PGHI so I have a vested interest in the company succeeding.
Here is my opinion of Veegeez:
The online game rental business has tons of potential. There is no doubt that when applied to video games, the Netflix model of "rent as much as you can for a monthly fee" works. I think anyone who has invested in PGHI will agree so I won't elaborate too much on this point.
In order to see the real picture we have to be more logical and less emotional in our approach. The following are a few points that jumped out at me:
CONS
PROS
CHALLENGES
KEY ISSUE
It is just as important to keep customers satisfied so that they remain customers. This leads us to a very important concern that I do not have insight to but is worth bringing up: INFRASTRUCTURE. This would include all the back-end systems necessary to run a commerce site successfully. At a high-level:
MARKETPLACE
At this time, I see Gamefly and DVD Barn as the leaders in the industry. Veegeez is not (yet) at a level that it could compete.
Gamefly seems to be the best known of the group with a brand that has been well established in the gaming industry. They seem to have a big marketing campaign this holiday season. I have personally seen ads for them on MTV2 and all over the net. My nephews (avid gamers which is their target market) tell me that they see ads for them in magazines all the time.
DVD Barn offers what Veegeez hopes for: game and movie rentals using one membership account though they have a fairly regional following, more popular in the west coast.
The competition:
GameFly http://www.gamefly.com
DVDBarn http://www.dvdbarn.com
GameLender http://www.gamelender.com
GameLender seems to be the leader in terms of titles carried with over 5,000 in their inventory.
Red Octane http://www.redoctane.com
GoVojo http://www.govojo.com
RentZero http://www.rentzero.com
Angel Gamer http://www.angelgamer.com
DVD Avenue http://www.dvdavenue.com
Turbo Gamer http://www.turbogamer.com
A good side-by-side comparison of features and prices can be found at: http://www.video-game-rental-easy-comparison.com
Helpful Links: http://internetgames.about.com/cs/gamerentals/ http://www.gamespot.com/ http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/products/story/0%2C24330%2C3440447%2C00.html
Just sharing some of my DD. Hopefully my 3 cents worth helps you guys in some way.
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Originally posted by Mav:
There many who are eager to buy this stock, just look, somebody just sold 5.000 shares and then, seconds later 100.000 shares where bought in 2 orders when the ask was down @0.028, now ask is up again @ 0.029[This message has been edited by Mav (edited December 18, 2003).]
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GL
Very thourough well rounded post. Well done! I have this very good feeling that John Fleming has "something up his sleeve," with GameZNflix Inc. and Veegeez... something that will be great... create a unique niche and significantly increase shareholder value. It may be a long wait... but when "all the cards are dealt," I believe shareholders we be greatly rewarded.
Thanks again. mach
As Raven state earlier... I believe .03 is a "fake" wall. I also believe MM intentionally broke this down to the upper .02's to collect what shares they could. They will not be able to hold it down for too much longer. But then again... they say... "Never look a gift horse in the mouth." imho
mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
More buying during the last minutes, ASK up @ 0.03[This message has been edited by Mav (edited December 18, 2003).]
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Buying into the last 10 minutes... Good... mach
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I'm in no hurry though... tripled my position over the last 48 hours and waiting to see how things pan out.
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach .. I have been on this all day, i think you read my post, i keep telling small buyers coming in slowly, it is my idea of what i see, I don't know what you think, please share with me your opinion...
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Originally posted by jiffer:
I'm not sure what is meant by a false wall... but 145k shares went through at .03 and all 6 MMs are still there.I'm in no hurry though... tripled my position over the last 48 hours and waiting to see how things pan out.
GL
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Originally posted by jiffer:
I'm not sure what is meant by a false wall... but 145k shares went through at .03 and all 6 MMs are still there.I'm in no hurry though... tripled my position over the last 48 hours and waiting to see how things pan out.
Just Me
Yes, I have noticed a substantial amount of DD here and some very intelligent investors. As a matter of fact... I'm seeing some of the top investors on this board investing in PGHI at these levels. "Birds of a Feather"
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by JustMe:
Hi guys. The 145k, at the end of the day, and the 82.5k this morning, were both mine. Sold out of some dogs because I see incredible potential here. Lots of great D/D going on. Glad to join all of you!Just Me
Merry Christmas to everyone!
TigerOnTop
Merry Christmas....have a safe journey!
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Originally posted by tigerontop:
Well, as of this afternoon I will have no access to internet or anything. I am off to PERU to go hike the inca trail. That will be along flight home on Jan 8th just because I want to check on my PGHI!Merry Christmas to everyone!
TigerOnTop
If you remember way back when I was into this at .006 and asked you my first questions about PGHI.....I had a hard time making decisions. I was rather new to the game and being somewhat alone in the stock was tough on my nerves! That led to some nice early profits by selling on the first run, but also some later losses by selling into an MM dip (that cost me a huge position which I would give anything to have back again!).
Now that so many of the posters who I respect are on board....it is MUCH MUCH easier to ride out the down days. I have learned many lessons since then! Many thanks to Mach, Milty, Mav, Chicago Joe, and others along the way!
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Just me...Yes, I have noticed a substantial amount of DD here and some very intelligent investors. As a matter of fact... I'm seeing some of the top investors on this board investing in PGHI at these levels. "Birds of a Feather"
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cabbage22:
[B]Do I even have to say anything?
Game Industry Market Forecasts
Next week, DFC Intelligence will publish a 250-page report with complete forecasts for the game industry, Worldwide Market Forecasts for the Video Game and Interactive Entertainment Industry.
In this months industry brief we thought we would provide an overview of some key points of this report. -DFC Intelligence forecasts worldwide industry growth for video games and PC games to be between 37% to 45% from 2002 to 2007. By 2007 we estimate the worldwide market for interactive entertainment software and hardware will be between $28.4 billion and $30.1 billion. Note that this figure does not include consumer spending on accessories, game rentals and used games. It is estimated that these areas will account for another $5 billion+ in annual spending.
-Market growth is forecasted to be strongest in Europe, where spending on video game hardware and software is forecasted to grow by over 50% between 2002 and 2007.
-The PlayStation 2 is far and away the strongest system and is blowing away past industry performance metrics. This system has the chance to be the first console system to sell over 100 million units.
-DFC Intelligence forecasts that as many as 50% of 128-bit game system owners will eventually own 2 or more of the three major game systems (PlayStation 2, Xbox and GameCube). This will give Microsoft and Nintendo an opportunity to build solid installed bases for their systems.
-In our game test labs we are seeing an increase in usage of both the Xbox and the GameCube in recent months, this could bode well for 2003/2004 sales for both systems. In our test lab, GameCube usage has been driven by Super Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, Animal Crossing and the newly released Zelda title. With its built-in hard drive and superior graphics, the Xbox is becoming the favorite system for sports games. However, our usage of the PlayStation remains very strong, lead by the Grand Theft Auto games and Kingdom Hearts.
-We do not think that the Xbox will ever have strong sales in Asia. However, we do think Microsoft has the potential to do quite well in North America and Europe.
-The new Game Boy Advance SP system is a major improvement over the original GBA system. Our older testers are now able to see what the kids were excited about. DFC Intelligence also provides forecasts for new portable systems expected to be released in the next several years. With the Game Boy Advance and new portable game systems, we forecast the worldwide portable hardware and software market increasing to over $5 billion by 2005.
-The new DFC Intelligence report contains multiple scenarios for the release of new systems from Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft. Because these new systems have yet to be formally announced these forecasts are speculative. These systems are expected in 2005 or 2006 (the report provides scenarios for both release periods). We believe that all three hardware manufacturers will try and prevent the competition from getting an early start in the market. That being said we do include a scenario where one company (Microsoft) gets a jumpstart by releasing their system a year early.
-By 2007, we expect the new systems to dominate the market. These systems are forecasted to have the fastest sales growth in the history of the video game market.
-While overall sales have been down in the computer game market, it is worth pointing out that with the number of releases down, top individual titles still have very strong sales potential.
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San Diego, CA -- April 17, 2003
A new report from research firm DFC Intelligence forecasts that the worldwide market for video games, computer games and interactive entertainment hardware and software should grow from $20.7 billion in 2002 to as much as $30 billion by 2007. Furthermore, the report states that by 2007 consumers will by and large be playing on a new breed of game systems that have yet to be released. “We think that the successors to the Sony PlayStation 2, the Microsoft Xbox and the Nintendo GameCube are likely to be the fastest selling video game systems ever,” says David Cole, president of DFC Intelligence.
Leading the market is Sony and its PlayStation brand. According to Cole, “the PlayStation 2 could eventually have sales of over 100 million hardware units, thus the PlayStation 3 has to be a favorite to continue Sony’s market leadership position.” However, the report claims that it is inevitable that Microsoft and Nintendo will take market share away from Sony. “The PlayStation 2 has been completely dominant, but we expect as much as 50% of PlayStation 2 owners to eventually buy an Xbox or GameCube,” says Cole.
The report contains three separate scenarios for future growth. Under all scenarios, the PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3 are the market share leaders, however Microsoft and Nintendo are significantly more competitive then they are in today’s marketplace. “Nintendo is being very aggressive with hardware pricing, software bundling and is doing a better job with third-party relationships. This should really benefit them in the long-term,” says Cole.
Meanwhile, Microsoft is expected to be extremely competitive on all fronts and has now become a battle-tested veteran. Cole notes that the Xbox was the first system from Microsoft, and it got off to a late start, nevertheless, the Xbox still has been quite competitive. The solid market performance of the Xbox significantly increases the market outlook for future game systems from Microsoft. According to Cole, “we think Microsoft and the Xbox could be potentially strong in Europe, a region that has been somewhat neglected by video game hardware manufacturers.”
The new report titled Worldwide Market Forecasts for the Video Game and Interactive Entertainment Industry is 500 pages and contains complete forecasts to 2007 for video game systems, portable game systems and computer games. Forecasts are broken down by individual platform for three major regions: Japan, Europe and the U.S. For more information go to www.dfcint.com.
CONTACT: David Cole
858-780-9680
Outstanding Info... Great research. It seems to me that Fortune recently released a report stating that the Video Gaming Industry will be one of the fastest growth markets for many years to come. This report certainly confirms that... which makes it even better for GamezNFlix (PGHI) shareholders whom know and understand that they are invested in the only online Video Game Rental publicly traded company!
mach
This first paragraph is key:
San Diego, CA -- April 17, 2003
A new report from research firm DFC Intelligence forecasts that the worldwide market for video games, computer games and interactive entertainment hardware and software should grow from $20.7 billion in 2002 to as much as $30 billion by 2007. Furthermore, the report states that by 2007 consumers will by and large be playing on a new breed of game systems that have yet to be released.
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
DFC Intelligence Forecasts Strong Growth For Video Game IndustrySan Diego, CA -- April 17, 2003
A new report from research firm DFC Intelligence forecasts that the worldwide market for video games, computer games and interactive entertainment hardware and software should grow from $20.7 billion in 2002 to as much as $30 billion by 2007. Furthermore, the report states that by 2007 consumers will by and large be playing on a new breed of game systems that have yet to be released. “We think that the successors to the Sony PlayStation 2, the Microsoft Xbox and the Nintendo GameCube are likely to be the fastest selling video game systems ever,” says David Cole, president of DFC Intelligence.
Leading the market is Sony and its PlayStation brand. According to Cole, “the PlayStation 2 could eventually have sales of over 100 million hardware units, thus the PlayStation 3 has to be a favorite to continue Sony’s market leadership position.” However, the report claims that it is inevitable that Microsoft and Nintendo will take market share away from Sony. “The PlayStation 2 has been completely dominant, but we expect as much as 50% of PlayStation 2 owners to eventually buy an Xbox or GameCube,” says Cole.
The report contains three separate scenarios for future growth. Under all scenarios, the PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3 are the market share leaders, however Microsoft and Nintendo are significantly more competitive then they are in today’s marketplace. “Nintendo is being very aggressive with hardware pricing, software bundling and is doing a better job with third-party relationships. This should really benefit them in the long-term,” says Cole.
Meanwhile, Microsoft is expected to be extremely competitive on all fronts and has now become a battle-tested veteran. Cole notes that the Xbox was the first system from Microsoft, and it got off to a late start, nevertheless, the Xbox still has been quite competitive. The solid market performance of the Xbox significantly increases the market outlook for future game systems from Microsoft. According to Cole, “we think Microsoft and the Xbox could be potentially strong in Europe, a region that has been somewhat neglected by video game hardware manufacturers.”
The new report titled Worldwide Market Forecasts for the Video Game and Interactive Entertainment Industry is 500 pages and contains complete forecasts to 2007 for video game systems, portable game systems and computer games. Forecasts are broken down by individual platform for three major regions: Japan, Europe and the U.S. For more information go to www.dfcint.com.
CONTACT: David Cole
858-780-9680
Thank you for the repost. As you are demonstrating here... Stochs and Williams % R indicating that we are currently trading in an oversold state confirming that the "bulls" will likely "sieze control" in the very near future. December 23rd is coming soon. mach
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Just wanted to bring this back up...[QUOTE]Originally posted by cabbage22:
[B]Do I even have to say anything?
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Originally posted by PSU90:
I was offline most of the day, so I was anxious to get on and see what was posted today. The teamwork on this thread (and this site in general) is spectacular. I am very encouraged, as you are Mach, to see some of the top investors from Allstocks here.If you remember way back when I was into this at .006 and asked you my first questions about PGHI.....I had a hard time making decisions. I was rather new to the game and being somewhat alone in the stock was tough on my nerves! That led to some nice early profits by selling on the first run, but also some later losses by selling into an MM dip (that cost me a huge position which I would give anything to have back again!).
Now that so many of the posters who I respect are on board....it is MUCH MUCH easier to ride out the down days. I have learned many lessons since then! Many thanks to Mach, Milty, Mav, Chicago Joe, and others along the way!
There are many like me who are following all of this and just want to let you know that I do appreciate all the research.
Ron B.
[This message has been edited by pbwizard (edited December 18, 2003).]
Older players, global popularity, demand for new college courses reflect game industry that's.
The stereotype of video games as a children's-only pursuit is as outdated as a classic Pong console. Sure, teens still play them, but the first wave of gamers that grew up playing video games in the 1970s and 80s has now reached adulthood - and many of these avid gamers have children of their own. As a result, millions of people today are playing, buying and even learning to create new games and other interactive entertainment products.
Colleges around the country are responding to the gaming industry's need to create new products and fill jobs by offering game-related courses for credit. According to Mary Clarke-Miller, academic director for Game Art & Design at The Art Institute of California - San Francisco, "The growth in college programs related to game design reflects a growing need for trained talent in the interactive entertainment field. Educators are working together with the game industry to develop relevant programs to fill this need."
According to the Interactive Digital Software Association (IDSA), the average age of a game player is 28 years old, and 90 percent of all games are purchased by adults over the age of 18. And it's not just young men playing and buying games. The IDSA also reports 40 percent of game players are women who tend to choose role-playing and lifestyle titles. This broad base of game purchasers has helped to drive video game industry global sales to reach an estimated $31 billion in 2002, according to a report by Informa Media Group. In the United States alone, sales in 2002 were $10.3 billion according to UBS Warburg.
In addition to the education community's keen response to this burgeoning industry, Wall Street is also keeping a close eye on its development; many game-related hardware and software companies are publicly traded. For example, in the United States, the launch of three new gaming systems fueled game sales to shoot up nearly 43 percent to $9.4 billion in 2001, reports market researcher NPD.
For game art students, many of them game players since grade school, a steady rise in the sophistication level of games requires that "students must not only have a solid foundation in drawing skills, but also a strong understanding of acting and storytelling," says Christian Bradley, Chair of Game Art & Design at The Art Institute of California - San Diego. Bradley, who has worked for industry leaders such as Interplay, The Dreamers Guild Studios, and The Collective Studios, explains that in the early days of game production, design was driven by technical considerations, providing little more than rudimentary graphics, however "once those technical hurdles were overcome, graphics and game art started to play an ever-increasing role in game production."
At The Illinois Institute of Art - Chicago, Media Arts & Animation instructor Ed Kerr, says "graphically, game art lagged beyond other entertainment forms such as television and film, however with current game technology, the artistic challenges for the artist, and student, approach those of more established media." Kerr also believes because rapidly-changing technology places constraints on the game art medium, game art creators must "ply their craft, communicating clearly and effectively within the limits of the game design."
And, although the game art field as a career is growing, more graduates with game art degrees means increased competition for jobs. "Graduates should anticipate starting near the bottom - like most other fields - and working their way up," says Mark Meier, a game art instructor with The Art Institute of Phoenix, and a creator of PlayStation and PlayStation 2 games. "The best prospects for jobs may be smaller, or less established companies, where advancement can be quick," he adds.
So with an industry exploding as quickly as gaming, is there any end in sight to its growth? "When we consider that currently only a small segment of the population is computer literate, the potential for increased growth, in the industry and the jobs needed to fill it, looks very promising," says Meier.
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Originally posted by Magoo:
Just wanted to thank Mach for the time spent for staying on top of PGHI. I am new to the board and the pennies in general and have learned a lot from the everyone who has researched this. I am in for 280,000 shares at verious buying levels and am holding long.There are many like me who are following all of this and just want to let you know that I do appreciate all the research.
Ron B.
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
m_h13021 made a personal ad http://users.adelphia.net/~x1f2 page to spead the word about VeeGeeZ. So now I have made an ad page and personalized it with its own domain name. Remember we all have shares from PGHI so this means we own a share of this company. Business owners do not make money waiting around they all spead the word and work hard to succeed. http://www.video-game-rentals.us
[This message has been edited by pbwizard (edited December 18, 2003).]
The console video game industry is characterized by the launch of new console systems that typically have a five-year lifecycle. The currently available fourth Generation of systems, based on 128-bit processors, were launched in 2000 and 2001. Each subsequent generation of systems has significantly outperformed the previous in terms of total revenue generated and games and consoles sold.
The current fourth Generation systems available were launched in 2000 with the introduction of Sony's PlayStation2. Microsoft and Nintendo brought greater variety of consumer offerings to the fourth generation arena with their respective introductions of the Xbox and GameCube.
A key industry driver for growth is the expansion of the installed player base. Two primary factors are contributing to that growth: first, traditional gamers are replacing third generation systems with the latest technology and, second, video game consoles continue to appeal to a wider, more mass market of users.
According to estimates from Gerard Klauer Mattison1, the interactive entertainment industry will grow from $9.5 billion in combined hardware, software, and accessory sales in 2001 to $10.5 billion in 2002 and $11.6 billion in 2003. Of the $9.5 billion in retail sales in 2001, accessories represented approximately $1.1 billion, 12% of the total market, growing a significant 38% from the approximately $800 million in accessory sales in 2000.
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Originally posted by Mav:
Video Games; A Grown Up Business
July 23rd 2003Older players, global popularity, demand for new college courses reflect game industry that's.
The stereotype of video games as a children's-only pursuit is as outdated as a classic Pong console. Sure, teens still play them, but the first wave of gamers that grew up playing video games in the 1970s and 80s has now reached adulthood - and many of these avid gamers have children of their own. As a result, millions of people today are playing, buying and even learning to create new games and other interactive entertainment products.
Colleges around the country are responding to the gaming industry's need to create new products and fill jobs by offering game-related courses for credit. According to Mary Clarke-Miller, academic director for Game Art & Design at The Art Institute of California - San Francisco, "The growth in college programs related to game design reflects a growing need for trained talent in the interactive entertainment field. Educators are working together with the game industry to develop relevant programs to fill this need."
According to the Interactive Digital Software Association (IDSA), the average age of a game player is 28 years old, and 90 percent of all games are purchased by adults over the age of 18. And it's not just young men playing and buying games. The IDSA also reports 40 percent of game players are women who tend to choose role-playing and lifestyle titles. This broad base of game purchasers has helped to drive video game industry global sales to reach an estimated $31 billion in 2002, according to a report by Informa Media Group. In the United States alone, sales in 2002 were $10.3 billion according to UBS Warburg.
In addition to the education community's keen response to this burgeoning industry, Wall Street is also keeping a close eye on its development; many game-related hardware and software companies are publicly traded. For example, in the United States, the launch of three new gaming systems fueled game sales to shoot up nearly 43 percent to $9.4 billion in 2001, reports market researcher NPD.
For game art students, many of them game players since grade school, a steady rise in the sophistication level of games requires that "students must not only have a solid foundation in drawing skills, but also a strong understanding of acting and storytelling," says Christian Bradley, Chair of Game Art & Design at The Art Institute of California - San Diego. Bradley, who has worked for industry leaders such as Interplay, The Dreamers Guild Studios, and The Collective Studios, explains that in the early days of game production, design was driven by technical considerations, providing little more than rudimentary graphics, however "once those technical hurdles were overcome, graphics and game art started to play an ever-increasing role in game production."
At The Illinois Institute of Art - Chicago, Media Arts & Animation instructor Ed Kerr, says "graphically, game art lagged beyond other entertainment forms such as television and film, however with current game technology, the artistic challenges for the artist, and student, approach those of more established media." Kerr also believes because rapidly-changing technology places constraints on the game art medium, game art creators must "ply their craft, communicating clearly and effectively within the limits of the game design."
And, although the game art field as a career is growing, more graduates with game art degrees means increased competition for jobs. "Graduates should anticipate starting near the bottom - like most other fields - and working their way up," says Mark Meier, a game art instructor with The Art Institute of Phoenix, and a creator of PlayStation and PlayStation 2 games. "The best prospects for jobs may be smaller, or less established companies, where advancement can be quick," he adds.
So with an industry exploding as quickly as gaming, is there any end in sight to its growth? "When we consider that currently only a small segment of the population is computer literate, the potential for increased growth, in the industry and the jobs needed to fill it, looks very promising," says Meier.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Wow... this is a great read about industry growth MAV. Get's me more excited. Growing Industry! Growing Company! Growing Shareholder Value! Boy... i imagine your typical college student would probably rather have a rental subscription than spending money buying games. With the number of new games hitting the streets... it would seem much more economical to have a rental membership vs. investing in a game that might get dated fast. Great read! mach
*** The Future's so Bright ***
Mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
Yes, I tell you Mach, this is very VERY hot, no dough those charts looks so good!!!.
"Buy a share as if you were buying the whole company"
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
It's funny... I personally have traded many different penny stocks... but now am actually invested and do constant research on a company and service that I really believe is going to be a "homerun". I hope that as people scan this board they take the time to stop and read through the intense DD here.. and then realize the full potential of GameZNflix (PGHI). This truly is an amazing investment opportunity! And yes... the techs are really looking good. mach*** The Future's so Bright ***
Mach
VeeGeeZ is up 326% on there reach per mil. visitors as Alexa is reporting.
Check out there traffic ranking http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=veegeez.com
1/ Fifty percent of all Americans age six and older play computer and video games.
2/ The average age of a game player is 29 years old.
3/ Thirty-nine percent of game players are women.
4/ Computer and video game software sales grew eight percent in 2002 to $6.9 billion and are expected to show strong growth over the next few years.
5/ In 2002, more than 221 million computer and video games were sold, or almost two games for every household in America.
6/ All games are rated by the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB), and sixty-three percent of games are rated “E” for Everyone. (For more information, please see www.esrb.org.)
7/ Sixteen of the top 20 best selling games in 2002 were rated “E” for everyone or “T” for teen.
8/ Ninety-two percent of all games are purchased by adults over the age of 18.
9/ Ninety-six percent of parents surveyed who have children under the age of 18 said they are paying attention to the content of the computer and video games their children play, and sixty percent of parents say they play interactive games with their kids at least once a month.
10/ The vast majority of people who play games do so with friends and family. (Almost sixty percent of frequent game players play with friends, thirty-three percent play with siblings, and about one-quarter play with their spouse and/or parents.)
Historical Sales Figures
$6.9 billion in U.S. entertainment software sales in 2002.
$6.35 billion in U.S. entertainment software sales in 2001.
$6.0 billion in U.S. entertainment software sales in 2000.
$6.1 billion in U.S. entertainment software sales in 1999.
$5.5 billion in U.S. entertainment software sales in 1998.
$4.4 billion in entertainment software sales in 1997.
$3.7 billion in entertainment software sales in 1996.
$3.2 billion in U.S. entertainment software sales in 1995.
2002 Industry Sales Information
2002 saw sales of computer and video game software grow 8% from 2001, generating $6.9 billion in sales.
U.S. sales of console games totaled $5.5 billion while computer games accounted for $1.4 billion in sales.
From the U.K., Nick Gibson of Games Investor and Senior Internet, Computer and Video Games Analyst at Durlacher Research, explains that cyclical growth has been a characteristic of the games industry since its inception, and the cycles have proven remarkably uniform in pattern. Periods of strong growth have tended to last 4-5 years, followed by flat or falling sales during a two year transition period as new platforms are introduced. The last two growth periods occurred between 1989 and 1993 and between 1995 and 1999. The industry is currently in the latter stages of its latest two year transition period, as it moves out of the downward part of one console cycle (PlayStation, Dreamcast, N64) and into the incline of the next console cycle (PlayStation2, Xbox, GameCube and Game Boy Advance). Although the first signs of net growth are beginning to be seen, Gibson predicts "strong year-on-year growth will only really be felt at the end of 2002." From that point on, he expects the industry to experience a sustained period of strong annual growth until around 2005.
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Originally posted by Moose:
mach...you kinda sound like Warren Buffett, below is a quote by him."Buy a share as if you were buying the whole company"
quote:
Originally posted by pbwizard:
machVeeGeeZ is up 326% on there reach per mil. visitors as Alexa is reporting.
Check out there traffic ranking http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=veegeez.com
I sent you an email @ yahoo!
Thanks,
Steve
[QUOTE]Originally posted by machtabow2:
[B]I love this info.
[This message has been edited by Love the Market (edited December 18, 2003).]
I am going to buy more shares tomorrow along with several of my trading friends. We are all new to the pennies but old hands at the rest. Together we will dump a good amount of cash in which will hopefully show some movement upwards and do a little damage to the MM's. I have done my own research and am very high on PGHI.
Thanks to all on this board
Ron B.
I think your friends will be thanking you in 2004 for getting them in PGHI at the ground floor!
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
MachI am going to buy more shares tomorrow along with several of my trading friends. We are all new to the pennies but old hands at the rest. Together we will dump a good amount of cash in which will hopefully show some movement upwards and do a little damage to the MM's. I have done my own research and am very high on PGHI.
Thanks to all on this board
Ron B.
Let's never say:
"Coulda, Woulda, Shouda…"
Browsing the net recently I came across the following message from a disgruntled investor regarding a “Coulda, Woulda, Shouda” investment opportunity that their portfolio did not “fully” realize.
The statement reads as follows:
“On an even more bitter note, last October, I bought shares of Netflix at $7.50. At the time, my investment goal was to sell after 40% in profit. Of course, when NFLX hit $11, I sold. Less than a year later, how much is Netfllix -- $58!!!”
There have been too many opportunities like this that I have missed in the past. I will not miss this one. It is not unrealistic to think that you may someday be buying your wife much more than a "Diamond Ring".
imho mach
quote:
Originally posted by ct1074:
Thanks to all who post such good info (DD) here about our little gem. Mach I haven't posted in a while but I'm still holdin. In @ avg of .027. Cash strapped now and looking to avg down on my UVCL pos. Good luck to us all. p.s. Sure would like to get the Wife a new Rock for an anniversary gift.
That's good news. I'm glad you did your research. It is nice to see that there are so many members on this board that consistently do thourough and unbiased research. I really enjoyed reading the post by Adrenalix today listing both the pros and cons of Veegeez. Great read. There is no doubt in my mind that investors at these levels will be greatly rewarded both in the near future and in the "long-run". Good luck to you on your entry. A position entered below .03 is highly recommended. A break beyond .03 will be confirmation that the "Bulls" have "Seized Control" again which will likey ignite a frenzy among the many investors that are waiting on the sidelines. The upside moves are very strong and I've seen many people get caught chasing the price up. Also, I personally enjoy entry into positions on Friday's... as they are usually a little slower from a trading perspective... Good time for bargain shoppers.
*** The Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
MachI am going to buy more shares tomorrow along with several of my trading friends. We are all new to the pennies but old hands at the rest. Together we will dump a good amount of cash in which will hopefully show some movement upwards and do a little damage to the MM's. I have done my own research and am very high on PGHI.
Thanks to all on this board
Ron B.
Ok...didn't work. Cabbage...can you give us a lesson on putting charts in our posts? Thanks!
PSU
[This message has been edited by PSU90 (edited December 18, 2003).]
Thanks for the reply and advise. The more eyes we have on this stock the higher it will go.
I am going to put in only what I am comfortable risking along with a few of my friend. We are not use to the pennies so I will probably be asking some rookie questions. My mind set is more oriented in the other markets but this might be an advantage as we will not be shook off by the MMs
and hold strong keeping a good amount of share from them
Ron B.
Just Me
Similar to IMG tags in html
[IMG] after the ] dont hit enter or space
htt-messitupsome:// url of picture.jpg[/IMG]
don't put the [/IMG] tag below the url, keep it in the same line.
If you cant figure it out, try replying to the chart i posted and it will have the code in there
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PSU90:
[b]Test....trying to post a chart here.
Ok...didn't work. Cabbage...can you give us a lesson on putting charts in our posts? Thanks!
PSU
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cabbage22 - thank technical analysis for God
I had my last final today, which I dominated (International Finance), and I am home on winter break for a month. That means two things-
1) I get to trade from my bed. (only 10mbps from a hub, but hey its still bed)
2) I get to DD and come up with multiple opportunities to share with the board
This is my only passion in life, as unhealthy as that may be, all I want to do is trade.
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Originally posted by Moose:
wow, looking at those charts, if we have a good day tomorrow and a nice close, I'm thinking next week will be great! Would love to see green soon, but I can wait!
I was wondering what happened to you. Haven't seen you on the board lately. Welcome back. mach
quote:
Originally posted by kitkatranchgirl:
hey all I am back in town now and still holding strong go pghi!!!!!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
wow, looking at those charts, if we have a good day tomorrow and a nice close, I'm thinking next week will be great! Would love to see green soon, but I can wait!
Maybe you should change your user name to "buffet." Would still keep you close to the "food" category and give one hand up in the "financial" world. Im sure you will enjoy your break from your bed. mach
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Next week will be great...Its Christmas and everyone is in the BUYING mood.I had my last final today, which I dominated (International Finance), and I am home on winter break for a month. That means two things-
1) I get to trade from my bed. (only 10mbps from a hub, but hey its still bed)
2) I get to DD and come up with multiple opportunities to share with the boardThis is my only passion in life, as unhealthy as that may be, all I want to do is trade.
This is not good. But looking forward to your "bed ridden" Due Diligence. - Marty
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Calm before the storm. This is common in trading. During a downtrend period... before a reversal takes place... you will often see trading come to an almost grinding halt. I learned this in "The Market Makers Edge" Day Trading Tactics from a Wall Street Insider. The Bulls will seize control soon. Patience. mach
it's like they aren't even trading today!!
nothing to graph so far. not dots to connect.
uncle milty
SAN DIEGO (Apr. 17, 2003) -- A new report from research firm DFC Intelligence forecasts that the worldwide market for video games, computer games and interactive entertainment hardware and software should grow from $20.7 billion in 2002 to as much as $30 billion by 2007.
Furthermore, the report states that by 2007 consumers will by and large be playing on a new breed of game systems that have yet to be released.
"We think that the successors to the Sony PlayStation 2, the Microsoft Xbox and the Nintendo GameCube are likely to be the fastest selling video game systems ever," said David Cole, president of DFC Intelligence.
Leading the market is Sony and its PlayStation brand. According to Cole, "the PlayStation 2 could eventually have sales of over 100 million hardware units, thus the PlayStation 3 has to be a favorite to continue Sony's market leadership position."
However, the report claims that it is inevitable that Microsoft and Nintendo will take market share away from Sony. "The PlayStation 2 has been completely dominant, but we expect as much as 50% of PlayStation 2 owners to eventually buy an Xbox or GameCube," said Cole.
The report contains three separate scenarios for future growth. Under all scenarios, the PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3 are the market share leaders, however Microsoft and Nintendo are significantly more competitive then they are in today's marketplace. "Nintendo is being very aggressive with hardware pricing, software bundling and is doing a better job with third-party relationships. This should really benefit them in the long-term," said Cole.
Meanwhile, Microsoft is expected to be extremely competitive on all fronts and has now become a battle-tested veteran. Cole noted that the Xbox was the first system from Microsoft, and it got off to a late start, nevertheless, the Xbox still has been quite competitive. The solid market performance of the Xbox significantly increases the market outlook for future game systems from Microsoft. According to Cole, "we think Microsoft and the Xbox could be potentially strong in Europe, a region that has been somewhat neglected by video game hardware manufacturers."
Source: DFC Intelligence
Friday , December 19, 2003 09:41 ET
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"Interest rates are currently holding at 40-year lows, a level that has endured through several Federal Reserve policy-setting meetings. Many economists, though, see the Fed's shift in bias as a prelude to an eventual move up in short term rates, saying the central bank is beginning to set the table, or at least warm the oven for a hike, if one is necessitated by any economic red flags, such as signs of inflation," stated Peter Antipatis. More is available at: http://www.thesubway.com/sub_comm.asp.
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Originally posted by Tonyg032001:
My streamer is showing news today, but when I read the news, it's old.. Is there new news?
Tony
Hopefully this will be the day because I cannot wait any longer to get into this money maker..GG I cannot!
I hope it works out or you. I honestly believe today and/or Monday may be the last day to get in below .03. I have my eyes on December 23rd to be the beginning of our next upward move.
Good luck. mach
quote:
Originally posted by Marcidius:
Pretty pissed, it has taken Lowtrades since last Monday to get my account open, and it still is not. I have contacted them about it and they keep saying look for an e-mail in the next day or so.Hopefully this will be the day because I cannot wait any longer to get into this money maker..GG I cannot!
ws.
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Originally posted by Degs:
Is there any free sites where I can see what the last trade went through at Volume,price,time? my real time only gives me the volume any help is appreciated. Mike
Well....stockcharts won't post here, but it looked like it would have worked! Anyway, the above is what I'm seeing on the 3 month chart. On the 10 day chart the MACD is positive and crossed the 0 line. Also pushing the upper Bollie in the 10 day chart.
[This message has been edited by PSU90 (edited December 19, 2003).]
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Originally posted by ws_bbl:
Try this Degs: http://chart.stockwatch.com/sw/quote.dbm?Q:PGHIws.
I have been lucky enough so FAR already that is hasn't hit yet, lol that sounds off the wall, but I just want to get in at these levels...good luck to you guys and hopefully I can get in on the run!!
HOPEFULLY! ~ Marc
then i back that up and see detail with columnar data at free real time quotes using the time and sales feature.
uncle milty
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Originally posted by ws_bbl:
It's 15 minutes late but that's all I know for free :-) ws.
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Originally posted by old mullet:
ws, on your intraday chart on the ameritrade streamer console, if you move the cursor across the page you will see the data for given trades. this is realtime. i have always liked graphic interfaces. you can run multiple intraday windows. this is a very useful feature.then i back that up and see detail with columnar data at free real time quotes using the time and sales feature.
uncle milty
Time for me to get out of this bed and get some coffee
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Chipping away at the .03 "wall" MM bid up to .029Time for me to get out of this bed and get some coffee
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Originally posted by ws_bbl:
Error from me!
Instead of a reply, I pushed the 'new topic' button! How can it be deleted???
ws.
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
OT: Is anyone here still on the old Datek platform?? I started with Datek in 2000, the ameritrade aquired them so they could have streamer, *******s.
yes, I am on the datek console also.
buck
GL
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Originally posted by ws_bbl:
Just wanted to say that ameritrade streamer shows bid at 0.027 and level II shows 0.029 bid. ws.
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It's not a game, boy, it's serious business, and Nintendo Co. knows it. One of the Big Three video game console makers, Nintendo makes the GameCube console, which battles with Microsoft's Xbox for second place in its industry (Sony 's PlayStation 2 is the world's top game system. In the handheld console segment, however, Nintendo's Game Boy system remains the leader. The newest model, Game Boy Advance, boasts a bigger screen, better speed, and enhanced graphics. By the end of 2002 more than 25 million Game Boy Advance units had been sold. Nintendo is also the game software market leader; hit series include Pokemon, Super Mario, and The Legend of Zelda.
Year after year, the electronic gaming industry sees dynamic changes and continued growth. This certainly held true in 2002. Industry analysts predict that worldwide sales this year could exceed $20 billion demonstrating that the industry is all but immune to the economic recession. On-line gaming continues to grow by 50 percent a year. On-line gaming parlors, popular in Korea and Japan, are beginning to appear in American cities. As game graphics and imagery get ever closer to motion picture quality, the games become more realistic, exciting, and attractive to young players. More children and youth are playing than ever before. Ninety-two percent of youngsters ages 2-17 now play video or computer games.
100 sale means MM needs shares
200 sale means MM needs shares bad-lot of orders he cannot cover
300 sale means MM is going to take price down to get shares
400 sale means trade sideways
500 sale gapping up or down depending on which way the sale went
Thanks
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
MM signal 200 @ 12:28100 sale means MM needs shares
200 sale means MM needs shares bad-lot of orders he cannot cover
300 sale means MM is going to take price down to get shares
400 sale means trade sideways
500 sale gapping up or down depending on which way the sale went
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Originally posted by Mav:
Video Game Report Card.Year after year, the electronic gaming industry sees dynamic changes and continued growth. This certainly held true in 2002. Industry analysts predict that worldwide sales this year could exceed $20 billion demonstrating that the industry is all but immune to the economic recession. On-line gaming continues to grow by 50 percent a year. On-line gaming parlors, popular in Korea and Japan, are beginning to appear in American cities. As game graphics and imagery get ever closer to motion picture quality, the games become more realistic, exciting, and attractive to young players. More children and youth are playing than ever before. Ninety-two percent of youngsters ages 2-17 now play video or computer games.
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Originally posted by raven76:
Sorry guys! I was wrong!!
I thought that .03 was a fake wall, and we needed 2.5-3M to break it.. It took just about 600K shares .
So it wasn't even a wall, maybe it was just a wallpaper nothing behind it..Or maybe a curtainGL
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Originally posted by coumars:
Learning... where do u c MM signal.Thanks
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Originally posted by Magoo:
MachI am going to buy more shares tomorrow along with several of my trading friends. We are all new to the pennies but old hands at the rest. Together we will dump a good amount of cash in which will hopefully show some movement upwards and do a little damage to the MM's. I have done my own research and am very high on PGHI.
Thanks to all on this board
Ron B.
Acrobat reader format. A must read.
Video gaming is good for America
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posted 11:47am EST Wed May 02 2001
NEWS
A new study shows that 70% of U.S. homes will have video game consoles by 2005 (close to the percentage of homes with VCRs), that 60% of Americans play computer/video games on a regular basis, that the gaming industry put 220,000 people to work last year, and that those jobs generated US$9 billion in wages and tax revenues. The report was commissioned by the Interactive Digital Software Association (IDSA) and researched by Nathan Associates, which used publicly available sources ("primarily the economic censuses and annual surveys of the U.S. Department of Commerce") to make its conclusions.
Last year, gaming software sales (including computer games) hit $10.5 billion, showing an average 15% annual growth from 1997. For comparison, the report showed annual revenue growth rates of 1.6% for video tape rental and 4.6% for movie production/distribution. Gaming software's continued phenomenal growth is likely, with a new set of advanced video game consoles about to hit the market and the report's estimate that 55 million people will play games online by 2004, up from 39 million online gamers last year.
The gaming industry's growth in wages, tax revenues, and employment also crushed other major U.S. industries. Wages paid in the gaming industry grew at 17.4% annually from 1995 to 2000 and employment at 10.1%; movie production/distribution saw 9.2% wages growth and 5.2% employment growth. Gaming's figures also beat computer manufacturing, consumer electronics, and computer storage. To top it off, gaming software companies spend 14% of their revenue on R&D (Research & Development), while other entertainment industry concerns spend only 9-12%.
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Originally posted by Mav:
This one is old but is a good support of the actual trend of growth in the Video game industry in USA.Video gaming is good for America
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Originally posted by Mav:
This one is old but is a good support of the actual trend of growth in the Video game industry in USA.Video gaming is good for America
Some other general information:
Xbox next and PS3 are coming out in 2005
Nintendo is stealing huge market share with their price reduction to $99
Sony PS2 has close to 70% market share
as mach would say
*****THE FUTURE IS SO BRIGHT!*****
it really is, this is the best type of business to be in right now, especially during the holidays/winter where everyone has Xmas money and new consoles they got for Xmas, they're going to want GAMES!!!
PS- Mach what do you think about MM signals?
I am scared, they are playing with us like a video game..Am I gonna lose all my money, if it's a game?( I did my own DD, but couldn't find anything)GL
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
70% of all US households will have a console! Wow... quite the market out there. Plenty of opportunity for Veegeez!!!!!! I'm telling you... we are on the ground floor here. mach
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
For one of my business classes I did an industry report on the game console industry, much of the information presented is right on.Some other general information:
Xbox next and PS3 are coming out in 2005
Nintendo is stealing huge market share with their price reduction to $99
Sony PS2 has close to 70% market share
as mach would say
*****THE FUTURE IS SO BRIGHT!*****it really is, this is the best type of business to be in right now, especially during the holidays/winter where everyone has Xmas money and new consoles they got for Xmas, they're going to want GAMES!!!
PS- Mach what do you think about MM signals?
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Originally posted by Mav:
Let me tell you, I've been doing intense DD and the word is all over, Video game industry is in a SOLID uptrend growth and many analysts say that we will continue to see this for years, many talk about far beyond 2007. As computers and OS improve over time, games have more room where to play and MANY humans, (adults and children) are playing, and are PLAYING long hours, the growth in the sales numbers talk for themselves. In a few words, I think we are sitting in a rocket.!!!!.
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
For one of my business classes I did an industry report on the game console industry, much of the information presented is right on.Some other general information:
Xbox next and PS3 are coming out in 2005
Nintendo is stealing huge market share with their price reduction to $99
Sony PS2 has close to 70% market share
as mach would say
*****THE FUTURE IS SO BRIGHT!*****it really is, this is the best type of business to be in right now, especially during the holidays/winter where everyone has Xmas money and new consoles they got for Xmas, they're going to want GAMES!!!
PS- Mach what do you think about MM signals?
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Originally posted by glassman:
Hey Mach remember any good poker player knows to bluff-- The MM's may very well be trying to accumulate. If they know--which I'm sure they do-- that everyone is looking for those signals they may throw false ones out to shake us up.
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Originally posted by Mav:
Bull again bid up @ 0.03
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Originally posted by JustMe:
Are there no sales going through? My streamer has been on 930,777 for about an hour.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
There you have it MAV... you and I think alike... very similar messages... almost at the same time... "Bull Again" is true! mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach... there you see it again, you can tell i am crazy but i keep looking at those small buying orders, one by one, slowly but constant....
MACH
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mach, I came across PGHI from the thread you started when I was home for thanksgiving, was a great pick then and now
BULL, BULL, BULL!!!
GL
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
SCHB ON THE BID @ .03... RAVEN JUST FOR YOU.MACH
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
I have a feeling we're all going to miss the .02'smach, I came across PGHI from the thread you started when I was home for thanksgiving, was a great pick then and now
CHRISTMAS RALLY?
Historically, the days before and after Christmas and Thanksgiving holidays have produced above average returns with strong frequency numbers for the markets. Both the frequency and gains for these two particular trading days have been far superior to market averages. (Time in Time Out, Thackray & Lindsay.). Although I had not applied this trading strategy to bb stocks in the past, I was pleasantly surprised to see that PGHI traded well in the “days” preceding Thanksgiving with a trend that produced substantial gains in the following days. Can we assume that a similar pattern will happen into the Christmas Holiday. Never underestimate the power of the market?
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Thats four things. I like those odds.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Im still confident we will see this happen with PGHI...CHRISTMAS RALLY?
Historically, the days before and after Christmas and Thanksgiving holidays have produced above average returns with strong frequency numbers for the markets. Both the frequency and gains for these two particular trading days have been far superior to market averages. (Time in Time Out, Thackray & Lindsay.). Although I had not applied this trading strategy to bb stocks in the past, I was pleasantly surprised to see that PGHI traded well in the “days” preceding Thanksgiving with a trend that produced substantial gains in the following days. Can we assume that a similar pattern will happen into the Christmas Holiday. Never underestimate the power of the market?[This message has been edited by machtabow2 (edited December 19, 2003).]
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
The Christmas effect coupled with the already existing trend (consolidation, bottom, reversal) PLUS new site due out by EOY, and last but not least...The name change to GamezNFlix.Thats four things. I like those odds.
uncle milty
In its recent Q2 financial conference call, Activision executives offered an optimistic view of the installed base and its prospects for growth.
Company officials said the U.S. installed base of current-generation consoles, including handhelds, stood at 45.6 million units as of the end of September 2003, up 87% over last year. The company expects the installed base to grow to 56 million units by the end of the year, a figure slightly ahead of its earlier estimates.
“The installed base of current generation hardware is significant and growing” said Ron Doornink, President and CEO of Activision Publishing, Inc.
During the conference call, Activision offered a breakdown of the company’s estimates of the current installed base by platform.
According to Activision, the North American base of PS2 consoles is 19.2 million, and is projected to end the year at 24 million barring a console price cut, down 1 million units from the company’s prior estimate, said Doornink.
As for Xbox, Doornink cited an installed base of 6 million projected to be 8 million by the end of 2003.
Doornink said the GameCube was selling well in the wake of Nintendo’s recent price cut, and the current base of 4.7 million units would grow to more than 6 million by years end.
The installed base of the Game Boy Advance is 15.7 million projected to grow to 18 million, owing to the success of the SP model.
Doornink noted that the installed base of current-generation systems is more than twice the size that it was at the same point in the last console cycle, despite higher average prices for the current systems.
On the other hand, console price cuts anticipated after the holidays should make 2004 a stronger year for software than previously forecast, according to Doornink.
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In case anyone visiting and posting on this thread may wonder why I asked poster "Sunny" to leave and start another PGHI thread to interact with members of the board that would "enjoy" conversations with him.
I am a very opened minded individual. And I do in fact respect the opinions of all indivduals. What I did realize quickly upon seeing this member begin to post on the previous PGHI thread was unnecessary remarks... that envoked unnecessary "bickering" on the thread. It began to give me the "feel" of being on raging bull. After literally over 1000 pleasant and "open-minded" messages discussing PGHI and it's "positives and negatives" without such a "negative" atmosphere... it was a sincere disappointment to me to see one individual "corrupt" the atmosphere by making statements such as "pump & dump"... questioning the validity of "tech analysis" and so forth. Rather than concentrating our discussions on PGHI... it was quickly becoming an unnecessary "battleground"... which im sure will continue on that particular thread.
Maybe it's my personality... but I truly in life have enjoyed surrounding myself with intelligent, open-minded positive indivduals. This does not necessarily mean individuals that are always "bullish" for example... but rather individuals that are "positive" and look for "positives" in every situation. I've found it difficult at times to interact with individuals that make strong "negative" remarks that are simply unsubstantiated.
I personally have enjoyed our intelligent conversations and analysis of PGHI and GamezNFlix... the market... the business model and so forth. I will continue to do so as we move forward.
Let me know what your thoughts are on this... if you want...
Thanks you.
Mach
mach
Webster's: OPINION - a formal expression of judgment or advice by an expert.
Sunny, your OPINION on PGHI and your OPINION of the others who post here and on the other threads is without merit, as you are OBVIOUSLY not an expert on penny stocks. All you do is complain because you are not seeing quick profits on a stock you bought without doing ANY DD yourself. You bought the stock because of what you were reading about it, written by the experts on this board, people who really know how to do proper research and then post their findings here so others can profit. All you do is whine because no one else wants to buy into your "OH WHOA IS ME, I THINK I BOUGHT A LOSER!!" attitude. And attacking someone like Milty and Mach ... dude you just show your ignorance. Quit your whining and either sell the stock and move on to something else, or sit back like the rest of us and wait for it to hit $5.00 and make a mint.
Walt
So Mach, that is MY OPINION.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Regarding Sunny...In case anyone visiting and posting on this thread may wonder why I asked poster "Sunny" to leave and start another PGHI thread to interact with members of the board that would "enjoy" conversations with him.
I am a very opened minded individual. And I do in fact respect the opinions of all indivduals. What I did realize quickly upon seeing this member begin to post on the previous PGHI thread was unnecessary remarks... that envoked unnecessary "bickering" on the thread. It began to give me the "feel" of being on raging bull. After literally over 1000 pleasant and "open-minded" messages discussing PGHI and it's "positives and negatives" without such a "negative" atmosphere... it was a sincere disappointment to me to see one individual "corrupt" the atmosphere by making statements such as "pump & dump"... questioning the validity of "tech analysis" and so forth. Rather than concentrating our discussions on PGHI... it was quickly becoming an unnecessary "battleground"... which im sure will continue on that particular thread.
Maybe it's my personality... but I truly in life have enjoyed surrounding myself with intelligent, open-minded positive indivduals. This does not necessarily mean individuals that are always "bullish" for example... but rather individuals that are "positive" and look for "positives" in every situation. I've found it difficult at times to interact with individuals that make strong "negative" remarks that are simply unsubstantiated.
I personally have enjoyed our intelligent conversations and analysis of PGHI and GamezNFlix... the market... the business model and so forth. I will continue to do so as we move forward.
Let me know what your thoughts are on this... if you want...
Thanks you.
Mach
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Originally posted by newstockpicker:
This is a repost of what I posted on Sunny's new thread:
Webster's: OPINION - a formal expression of judgment or advice by an expert.
Sunny, your OPINION on PGHI and your OPINION of the others who post here and on the other threads is without merit, as you are OBVIOUSLY not an expert on penny stocks. All you do is complain because you are not seeing quick profits on a stock you bought without doing ANY DD yourself. You bought the stock because of what you were reading about it, written by the experts on this board, people who really know how to do proper research and then post their findings here so others can profit. All you do is whine because no one else wants to buy into your "OH WHOA IS ME, I THINK I BOUGHT A LOSER!!" attitude. And attacking someone like Milty and Mach ... dude you just show your ignorance. Quit your whining and either sell the stock and move on to something else, or sit back like the rest of us and wait for it to hit $5.00 and make a mint.Walt
So Mach, that is MY OPINION.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
GameZNflix RALLY(PGHI) A COMPLETE ANALYSIS
BY MACH December 16, 2003TECHNICAL ANALYSIS & SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS
There is no question that mass psychology has an impact on a stock’s price: Prices are driven by emotions, mainly greed and fear. Technical analysis incorporates price action and volume to produce a blueprint of where a stock has been and where it may go. It traces the emotional extremes of the bulls and the bears to produce clues as to where the greed of fear is the strongest. Knowing how to spot repeating price patterns in the market will provide you with a valuable advantage.
Great traders have proven time and again that they can consistently win by speculating when the odds are in their favor. Whether you have used or desire not to use technical analysis is insignificant. We all use different trading strategies as we make our investment decisions.
What is significant is the fact that many individuals use technical analysis as an indication of (1) Whether to enter a position (2) When to Enter a position (3) And when to exit a position.
A common pattern thoughout the market is that technicians are often the the first to enter a position followed by the general market and momentum traders.
So what do the technicians see happening with PGHI lately? And what will technicians do?
Williams%R & Fast Stochaistics have now signaling that PGHI is moving into oversold territory. During the prior moves into oversold territory in Mid September and mid November PGHI gained several 100%’s gains in the following days after several consecutive days of consolidation. Slow Stochaistics for PGHI indicate that it may trade “sideways” in oversold territory for a few more days(Strong news could change this.) One could speculate based on prior trends that PGHI will likely make a similar move in the near future from the current oversold position and reward current shareholders with a 100%/200%/300% gain or more.
What will technicians be doing during the next few days? Accumulation. (See attached chart)
daclyyay[db][pb50!b200][vc60][iUi14,3!Lk14]&pref=G]http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=PGHI,uu[m,a]daclyyay[db] [pb50!b200][vc60][iUi14,3!Lk14]&pref=GThat’s great if technical analysis were always 100% accurate, but it isn’t. We need to dig a little deeper and discover whether there are any significant developments within the company that will support and substantiate such a move.
SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS
So what are the significant developments occurring now and will they impact shareholder value in the near future?
The first significant development is a corporate name change to GameZNflix Inc. How significant is this? This demonstrates to the shareholder that PGHI is extremely focused on the success of it’s online business to the extent that they are developing much of their current business model around it’s success. "When you review companies like NetFlix.com, and apply a similar model to Veegeez.com it is easy to see the potential of our new subsidiary." President John Fleming continued, "We feel there is a great upside for our shareholders with this acquisition."
Should shareholders be excited? Absolutely! Afterall Netflix pulled off a dot-com IPO and reached profitability faster than anyone predicted. Netflix shares have taken a “gigantic leap” in less than 2 years from $4 to $60. Is itn't unreasonable to assume that GameZNflix shareholders will realize substantial gains from it’s current trading level of .026!
A second significant development is the launch of a new web site designed by Roy Vella, Web & Print Design Service. Lance Wiseman, CTO states, "The signing of this contract begins the next phase of VeeGeeZ.com's business plan to provide enhanced services to its customers. In addition, the new design will not only meet our current video game rental customer base it will setup our expansion into the DVD rental world"
Did he say DVD? A third significant development which will become a much more significant factor in the success of the current business model is the addition of DVD’s to it’s current business model.
The expectation for the launch of online DVD rentals combined with it’s current Online Gaming Rental business is extremely significant. After all Netflix currently does not offer or market Online Video Game Rentals! It will be much more convenient for America to have an subscription service that caters to families that desire both a DVD and Video Game Rental Service! Will this increase the number of people that subsribe to their service? Yes! Will this increase shareholder value? Absolutely!
GREAT EXPECTATIONS
Upon completion of both the final name change and new web site you can expect a much stronger focus on marketing and an increase in subscriptions. On November 5, 2003, PGHI announced that its subsidiary -- online video game rental company, VeeGeeZ.com, LLC -- has signed a contract with Venture Direct Worldwide of New York to handle its online marketing campaign. The experienced staff of Venture Direct Worldwide and VeeGeeZ management has developed a marketing plan to assist the company in moving to the next level.
The success of many company is more often than not the direct result of the success of it’s marketing campaign. How successful will it be? Why don’t we ask some of Venture Direct Worldwide’s current clients which include: Adobe, Microsoft, Citigroup, AT&T, Intel, Xerox, Fortune Magazine and many other successful companies. Do I need to elaborate?
(See attached link:http://www.venturedirect.com/html/vdw_clients.htm)
TIME FRAME
How close are we to seeing these developments significantly impact shareholder value? Current indications are that it will be VERY SOON!Here are the steps leading to the name change:
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Originally posted by adrenalix:
I posted this in bits and pieces in an earlier PGHI thread but thought it should be reposted here. These are random bits of info and opinion that may help you make inferences into where Veegeez stands in terms of it's competition.*******
[b]Introduction:
To put this summary in the proper context, I thought you should know some info about my background. I am in the web development industry and have worked and designed systems for many major B2B and B2C sites including partners of the big 3: Yahoo, MSN, and AOL. So opinions I post here will be from that standpoint, and less from a stock technical analysis view.
Voluntary Disclosure: I own a large chunk of shares in PGHI so I have a vested interest in the company succeeding.
Here is my opinion of Veegeez:
The online game rental business has tons of potential. There is no doubt that when applied to video games, the Netflix model of "rent as much as you can for a monthly fee" works. I think anyone who has invested in PGHI will agree so I won't elaborate too much on this point.
In order to see the real picture we have to be more logical and less emotional in our approach. The following are a few points that jumped out at me:
CONS
- The design of the current Veegeez.com website is piss-poor. I have honestly seen better websites made by 12 year olds.
- It doesn't look like much thought was put into the information architecture of the site. Links, categories and sections are either unclear, inconsistent or both.
- Focus. The site is guilty of trying to do too much at once which ends up confusing the viewer. Do a side-by-side comparison of the homepages of Veegeez and Netflix and you'll see what I mean. The sometimes cliche saying of "Less is More" actually applies in this situation.
- The site needs a marketing touch. Aside from a large banner on the homepage, there is little being done to meet the site's main objective: get new users to sign up.
- The process for browsing through titles is unintuitive. It is not clear how the "Game Catalog" on the left nav is supposed to work. There are five drop-down boxes with no clear labels on what each one is intended to do. Sorting through some pages (up to 400+ pages long) is a pain.
- The company needs to find a better way to differentiate between available and unavailable titles. I did a quick search for new titles for Playstation 2 and 7 out of the 10 games listed were out of stock.
- Inventory. This is probably a given. We need more titles and more copies of each.
- Site Statistics. Why display information that may be misused by competitors or could be interpreted as negative by your customers? It would be a different case if the company had stellar numbers such as 99% of titles in stock or 1million pages viewed today. That could be used as a marketing tool. But mediocre metrics such as only 60% of our inventory is available or only 38 people online right now? It may be useful to the company (or even shareholders) but not customers.
PROS
- All the negatives above being said, I am pleased to see that PGHI's first order of business is to hire a web designer to give it a fresh look. Done right, most of the CONS I listed above should be addressed. Let's see.
- Customer Service seems to be good. Each time I sent them an email, I got a response back within a few hours. One thing to note though that the same person responded to all my questions. Could it be a one-man operation?
- PGHI is a public company and through the sale of stock can raise funds needed to develop the infrastructure for the business and purchase more inventory.
- Being the first publicly traded company in the online game rentals business can get PGHI some good attention and hype.
CHALLENGES
- Veegeez is a late entry into the marketplace. "First to market" always has the advantage and Gamefly, and others already have a lead for which Veegeez has to make up. The less than 1,000 customers that they currently have is nominal compared to the market potential.
- Netflix has patented some "key processes" of their rental queue system which is the technology for which their infrastructure revolves around. Although many copycat sites simply disregard these, Veegeez has to figure out a way to work around these patents if they are serious about making it big. Netflix is already starting to take "offenders" into court.
- Veegeez has no branding. Though us shareholders know Veegeez by heart, the company is not at all known by it's target market. This may be a blessing in disguise as the marketing company Fleming just hired has a clean slate to work with. (It is interesting to note that Veegeez now advertises on Overture and pays about $1 per click. That's a bit expensive but is a good sign that they're putting money into promotion. This allows their listing to show on top of search results for Yahoo, MSN and others.)
- What do breakout companies have in common? A CULT-like following. Seriously. Look at Apple Computer owners, TIVO customers and Netflix subscribers. They swear by those products and services and love them. No one company has that type of effect in the game rentals industry although Gamefly has a lead.
KEY ISSUEIt is just as important to keep customers satisfied so that they remain customers. This leads us to a very important concern that I do not have insight to but is worth bringing up: INFRASTRUCTURE. This would include all the back-end systems necessary to run a commerce site successfully. At a high-level:
- FULFILLMENT: Veegeez needs to have an effective process for shipping out and managing inventory. For example, I have a Netflix account and I usually have a 2 day turnaround for my movie rentals. (I mail a movie back on Monday, they get it Tuesday and send a new one which I get Wednesday.)
- BILLING: Monthly memberships should be charged accurately and in time.
MARKETPLACE
At this time, I see Gamefly and DVD Barn as the leaders in the industry. Veegeez is not (yet) at a level that it could compete.Gamefly seems to be the best known of the group with a brand that has been well established in the gaming industry. They seem to have a big marketing campaign this holiday season. I have personally seen ads for them on MTV2 and all over the net. My nephews (avid gamers which is their target market) tell me that they see ads for them in magazines all the time.
DVD Barn offers what Veegeez hopes for: game and movie rentals using one membership account though they have a fairly regional following, more popular in the west coast.
The competition:GameFly http://www.gamefly.com
DVDBarn http://www.dvdbarn.com
GameLender http://www.gamelender.com
GameLender seems to be the leader in terms of titles carried with over 5,000 in their inventory.Red Octane http://www.redoctane.com
GoVojo http://www.govojo.com
RentZero http://www.rentzero.com
Angel Gamer http://www.angelgamer.com
DVD Avenue http://www.dvdavenue.com
Turbo Gamer http://www.turbogamer.com
A good side-by-side comparison of features and prices can be found at: http://www.video-game-rental-easy-comparison.com
Helpful Links: http://internetgames.about.com/cs/gamerentals/ http://www.gamespot.com/ http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/products/story/0%2C24330%2C3440447%2C00.html
Just sharing some of my DD. Hopefully my 3 cents worth helps you guys in some way.[This message has been edited by adrenalix (edited December 18, 2003).][/B]
Hmmmmmmmm.....then why are you posting about me here? Hmmmmm..I think you just contradicted yourself.
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
New Banner just given to me so I can add it to my websites.
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
New website update. They have plan as long as the site testing works it will up within couple of weeks. VeeGeeZ.com will not be changing its name only Points Group Holding is changing to Gameznflix. VeeGeeZ.com will contenue to be VeeGeeZ. I just received an eMail from VeeGeeZ in reply of my Questions about the above.
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Originally posted by sunnyinna:
[B][/B]
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
BULL again ...
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Well the "Bulls are Seizing Control" Mav. This doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to run away though... I personally am hoping for a nice slow walk up to .05 and then news that would encourage a breakout. To much to quick isn't necessarily healthy.*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
Also, is anyone else concerned about the fact that if PGHI doesn’t raise a certain amount of money by a certain date, either party can void the contract between VeeGeez and PGHI. (The amount of money adnd time is in their press releases).
I am off to call the investor relations about the private placement…get some more info
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Originally posted by Mav:
Yes, I agree ... Bulls are seizing control and techs look good!.
Check your email... realtime not working.
mach
Up from here..
GL
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Hope one of you great charttrackers can post a chart here for all to see the techs. Next week should be great! Thanks! mach
Can I ask you where was this information obtained? Do you have a F/S or something? If you do can I please review it also? Thank you. -Marty
Betn... companies are visionaries... they need to look forward and anticipate... Distribution centers throughout the US will be necessary as the subscriber base grows... Fullfillment and timeliness of will be important with respect to customer satisfaction and retention. When the new site is launched and marketing begins... they need to "have all their ducks in a row." I'm busy savvy and sometimes take the knowledge for granted. If you need more detail... let me know. An East Coast/West Coast base for now seems adequate. Thanks. mach
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
"With under 1000 subscribers, and around 1000 games...."Can I ask you where was this information obtained? Do you have a F/S or something? If you do can I please review it also? Thank you. -Marty
As a subscriber it takes between 4-5days time to send/receive a game. Now, with that information you might want to rethink the validity of your statement. I am all for it.
I guess Netflix having 23 distribution centers does not give VeeGeez's plan any merit either?
Netflix Shipping Centers:
-Twenty shipping centers nationwide.
-Shipping centers serving metropolitan areas in Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Fort Lauderdale, Houston, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, New York, Newark, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Portland, San Jose, Seattle, St. Louis, Stamford, and Washington, D.C.
-Netflix reaches more than half of its subscribers with generally next-day delivery. By year-end 2003, Netflix expects to reach more than 70 percent of its subscribers with generally next-day delivery.
-The efficiency of these shipping centers - most are no more than 8,000 square feet - is driven by proprietary software that enables a lean crew to process and ship a daily average volume of between 5,000 and 30,000 discs a day.
http://www.netflix.com/PressRoom?id=5206
MM taking price down to buy shares?
Its possible they will try and drop it a little before the next run up, but I dont see how much they will be able to drop this, maybe .027 at the most. I have my brother putting some money in on Monday, maybe he can get a good price! Buy hey, anything under .03 looks good from here
I don't post much but when I have it has been on the other thread. PGHI is a longer term play in my opinion i.e. 3-24 months. In penny stocks I wouldn't "invest" unless I could stand to lose it all. Intraday trading is tough in any stock and more like a crap shoot with penny stocks. I have a substantial investment in PGHI and I will tell you this, the odds of it going down to .16 from this point is less than the probability of going back up to where you would be in the green IMO Sunny. In this particular stock the downside risk right now does not compare to the upside potential if you have time to sit on it. Example: 100k shares at .03 to .02 is a 1k loss. The time it would take for this stock to go down that far would be much longer than the time it would take for the stock with this kind of trend to go back up to .045-.05 IMO. I personally made the decision to risk thousands of dollars to possibly make tens of thousnds. Eveyone has to make their own decision on how much risk they are willing to take to get a phenominal gain. This stock has that upside potential but there are no guarantees. I don't know if this helps or not, I hope so. KC
.029 BID .032 ASK - .031 CLOSE
15:58:39 56250 0.031 - OTCBB
15:58:39 56250 0.032 + OTCBB
15:57:48 300 0.03 + OTCBB
15:57:18 300 0.029 - OTCBB
15:42:27 4900 0.03 + OTCBB
15:42:27 25000 0.029 - OTCBB
15:42:27 10000 0.03 + OTCBB
15:42:24 10144 0.03 + OTCBB
14:44:27 14637 0.03 + OTCBB
14:44:27 15400 0.03 + OTCBB
Have a great weekend. - Marty
Also, as far as the under 1000 subscribers, that’s an educated guess. Look at previous releases and do some math….and also look at in/out of stock ratio.
Mach …
I hope all this planning turns into something GREAT. It is a good idea to have more then one distribution center if you have thousands of games. Maybe they are planning on a huge buying spree…. More then what they are telling us
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
m_h... yes i'd like to know that... I assume Betn has insider information. Also, he may have read a prior pr regarding 400 subscribers with a growth rate of 40% per month if i recall and then guesstemated... i can only assume...Betn... companies are visionaries... they need to look forward and anticipate... Distribution centers throughout the US will be necessary as the subscriber base grows... Fullfillment and timeliness of will be important with respect to customer satisfaction and retention. When the new site is launched and marketing begins... they need to "have all their ducks in a row." I'm busy savvy and sometimes take the knowledge for granted. If you need more detail... let me know. An East Coast/West Coast base for now seems adequate. Thanks. mach
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
"I am not buying that it was to reach their eastern subscribers."As a subscriber it takes between 4-5days time to send/receive a game. Now, with that information you might want to rethink the validity of your statement. I am all for it.
I guess Netflix having 23 distribution centers does not give VeeGeez's plan any merit either?
Netflix Shipping Centers:
-Twenty shipping centers nationwide.
-Shipping centers serving metropolitan areas in Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Fort Lauderdale, Houston, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, New York, Newark, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Portland, San Jose, Seattle, St. Louis, Stamford, and Washington, D.C.
-Netflix reaches more than half of its subscribers with generally next-day delivery. By year-end 2003, Netflix expects to reach more than 70 percent of its subscribers with generally next-day delivery.
-The efficiency of these shipping centers - most are no more than 8,000 square feet - is driven by proprietary software that enables a lean crew to process and ship a daily average volume of between 5,000 and 30,000 discs a day.
http://www.netflix.com/PressRoom?id=5206
Now this is just based on personal assumption, but if they are going to have a east coast distribution center, they would HAVE to stock inventory to supply there subs on the east coast. If this was not implemented, what would be the point of having this as a distribution center.
OK, how bout this maybe there are going to still ship out games from CA until TN is built up. But they will receive games in TN no problem? Turn-around time will now decrease.
I don't know, but I am banking on VG's with this new location to also coincide with increased inventory to feed the eastern subs. I hope! -
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I hope your not attacking me for posting a question. I was wondering about their move with the small amount of games they have.
Not at all. I just questioned the numbers you had posted. PGHI is due for some sort of release of F/S on VeeGeez, and I thought maybe perhaps you had this information. OK?
Could others please comment. I did not think my post was worded as an "attack". I this is the case, I owe you an apology. - Marty
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
The 1000 games comes from a personal email I, as well as others received from VeeGeez. Email them and ask them how many games they have. They have over 1000 game titles.Also, as far as the under 1000 subscribers, that’s an educated guess. Look at previous releases and do some math….and also look at in/out of stock ratio.
Mach …
I hope all this planning turns into something GREAT. It is a good idea to have more then one distribution center if you have thousands of games. Maybe they are planning on a huge buying spree…. More then what they are telling us
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with 1000 game titles doesnt mean they only have one copy of each game title... im pretty sure they have multiple copies of each title...
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
"I am not buying that it was to reach their eastern subscribers."As a subscriber it takes between 4-5days time to send/receive a game. Now, with that information you might want to rethink the validity of your statement. I am all for it.
I guess Netflix having 23 distribution centers does not give VeeGeez's plan any merit either?
Netflix Shipping Centers:
-Twenty shipping centers nationwide.
-Shipping centers serving metropolitan areas in Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Fort Lauderdale, Houston, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, New York, Newark, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Portland, San Jose, Seattle, St. Louis, Stamford, and Washington, D.C.
-Netflix reaches more than half of its subscribers with generally next-day delivery. By year-end 2003, Netflix expects to reach more than 70 percent of its subscribers with generally next-day delivery.
-The efficiency of these shipping centers - most are no more than 8,000 square feet - is driven by proprietary software that enables a lean crew to process and ship a daily average volume of between 5,000 and 30,000 discs a day.
http://www.netflix.com/PressRoom?id=5206
Could others please comment. I did not think my post was worded as an "attack". I this is the case, I owe you an apology. - Marty[/B][/QUOTE]
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Tell me what F/S is and we’ll call it evenCould others please comment. I did not think my post was worded as an "attack". I this is the case, I owe you an apology. - Marty
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
m_h... was trying to figure out who you were talking too... i think betn understands now... He may have made a statement rather than asked a question... but i do think he understands the importance of fullfillment and timeliness... With growth expectations... and customer retention... you need to think ahead and be ready for growth. Good luck. mach
Now that I gave you my opinion. Could you answer me why you have doubts in PGHI's motive to move to TN? I mean, maybe I am not looking at all the possible reasons, good or bad. I took you statement as "not buying", as along the nature of - there is something fishy going on here -. Yes? No? Could you just elaborate on this. Thank you. -
Will be looking to add here on Monday to make up for the GOAM loss. I've got a big position already, but its hard to pass up.
12/19/03 0.0300 0.0320 0.0270 0.0310 +0.0010 1531412 +3.33%
12/18/03 0.0290 0.0300 0.0270 0.0300 +0.0010 1547400 +3.4483%
12/17/03 0.0260 0.0300 0.0260 0.0290 +0.0030 6788900 +11.538%
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Originally posted by PSU90:
Well, I had some cash come free today (not by choice....was stopped out when GOAM tanked while I was out of the office).Will be looking to add here on Monday to make up for the GOAM loss. I've got a big position already, but its hard to pass up.
Happy Holidays!
(I've set my news alerts to send me a text message on my mobile phone in case something new comes out for PGHI.)
Gotta run for now. Going out for dinner. I'll be back online tonight.
PSU
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
PSU.. nice to hear from you again... yes... i see this gradually strengthing ... The "Bulls" are beginning to "Seize Control" here once again. The great thing is that we are still trading in oversold territory. mach12/19/03 0.0300 0.0320 0.0270 0.0310 +0.0010 1531412 +3.33%
12/18/03 0.0290 0.0300 0.0270 0.0300 +0.0010 1547400 +3.4483%
12/17/03 0.0260 0.0300 0.0260 0.0290 +0.0030 6788900 +11.538%
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Regarding Sunny...In case anyone visiting and posting on this thread may wonder why I asked poster "Sunny" to leave and start another PGHI thread to interact with members of the board that would "enjoy" conversations with him.
I am a very opened minded individual. And I do in fact respect the opinions of all indivduals. What I did realize quickly upon seeing this member begin to post on the previous PGHI thread was unnecessary remarks... that envoked unnecessary "bickering" on the thread. It began to give me the "feel" of being on raging bull. After literally over 1000 pleasant and "open-minded" messages discussing PGHI and it's "positives and negatives" without such a "negative" atmosphere... it was a sincere disappointment to me to see one individual "corrupt" the atmosphere by making statements such as "pump & dump"... questioning the validity of "tech analysis" and so forth. Rather than concentrating our discussions on PGHI... it was quickly becoming an unnecessary "battleground"... which im sure will continue on that particular thread.
Maybe it's my personality... but I truly in life have enjoyed surrounding myself with intelligent, open-minded positive indivduals. This does not necessarily mean individuals that are always "bullish" for example... but rather individuals that are "positive" and look for "positives" in every situation. I've found it difficult at times to interact with individuals that make strong "negative" remarks that are simply unsubstantiated.
I personally have enjoyed our intelligent conversations and analysis of PGHI and GamezNFlix... the market... the business model and so forth. I will continue to do so as we move forward.
Let me know what your thoughts are on this... if you want...
Thanks you.
Mach
I have talked to the guys at VeeGeez and equitlink (sp?), and I am concerned about the very long term. No one can predict what will happen in the years to come with one company, although the industry is booming and PGHI does have access to money more easily then competitors.
That said, I love the short term potential of the company when I take into consideration the tech analysis I know. It was a good pic by mach….if I recall it was mach that picked it. The new website should really give us a boost. It’s the only stock I ever bought that has me thinking more about how much money I will make in profit, rather then am I going to lose money.
Furthermore, I have learned more about tech analysis and how to buy and sell then anywhere else. I enjoy reading all your posts, its been a great learning experience…lets just not get caught in the frog in boiling water syndrome.
“Protect Your Principle”
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
BetNitAll,Now that I gave you my opinion. Could you answer me why you have doubts in PGHI's motive to move to TN? I mean, maybe I am not looking at all the possible reasons, good or bad. I took you statement as "not buying", as along the nature of - there is something fishy going on here -. Yes? No? Could you just elaborate on this. Thank you. -
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Originally posted by chill:
Mach,
Sorry I am late on replying to this - was away from the computer.
I agree with you 100%.
I am also a positive person and really appreciate your input.
I visited that other thread and see that it is a bickering atmosphere.
Thanks again for your enthusiasim and willingness to share.
chill
Hmmm, OK fair enough! Looking for your opinion, but understood. Thanks for your response. - Marty
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Originally posted by herm:
with 1000 game titles doesnt mean they only have one copy of each game title... im pretty sure they have multiple copies of each title...
From Americanbulls
Today a Spinning Top formed. Both the bulls and the bears were active during the session. Even though the session opened and closed with little change, prices moved significantly higher and lower in the mean time. Be careful, this indicates weakness among the bears and a potential change or interruption in the current trend!
Monday morning into the open-
The MMs will try and take PGHI down to get shares. Two of the MMs have bad lots of orders they cannot fill, and the orders are large orders...!
Be careful if you have Stop Limit Orders in place.....!
jwhite2913
List of companies that rent videos and there traffic stats
Gamefly last 3 mths down 8% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.gamefly.com
Govojo last 3 mths down 20% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.govojo.com
VeeGeeZ last 3 mths up 340% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.veegeez.com/
These are the top 3 companies renting vidoes online. The traffic to the site has taken VeeGeeZ from an Alexa ranking of 559,831 3 months ago to 167,331 at present time. At this rate they should be into the top 100,000 websites on the web by the end of Jan. 2004 and if my calulations are correct they should hit top 55,000 websites by May 2004.
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
Here is something of interest.List of companies that rent videos and there traffic stats
Gamefly last 3 mths down 8% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.gamefly.com
Govojo last 3 mths down 20% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.govojo.com
VeeGeeZ last 3 mths up 340% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.veegeez.com/
These are the top 3 companies renting vidoes online. The traffic to the site has taken VeeGeeZ from an Alexa ranking of 559,831 3 months ago to 167,331 at present time. At this rate they should be into the top 100,000 websites on the web by the end of Jan. 2004 and if my calulations are correct they should hit top 55,000 websites by May 2004.
On September 26, 2003 Point Group Holdings Inc. (OTC BB: PGHI) announced that it had successfully acquired Veegeez.com, LLC of Santa Clarita, CA, an online video game rental company. Veegeez.com provides its subscribers video game rentals via the Internet similar to how NetFlix.com provides DVD's to its customers.
On December 11, 2003, Point Group Holdings Inc. filed form PRE-14C with the US SEC. The PRE-14C is essentially a petition by the company's board of directors to amend the Articles of Incorporation of the Company to change the name of the Company
to "GamezNFlix, Inc." The Company received the consent of a majority of the outstanding shares of Common Stock of the Company for this action under a definitive Proxy Statement filed on November 20, 2003. An Information Statement describing this action will be sent on or about December 15, 2003 to the Company's stockholders of record who have not been solicited for their consent of this corporate action.
On December 9, 2003 Point Group Holdings, Inc. announced that its corporate headquarters is relocating from San Diego, California, to Franklin, Kentucky. The move is scheduled to take place during the last weeks of December. The relocation is part of the planned opening of PGHI's (soon to be GamezNFlix Inc.) subsidiary VeeGeeZ.com. The addition of the new distribution center for VeeGeeZ in Franklin, Kentucky will provide the company with distribution centers on both the east and west coasts of the United States. In support of the “Bi-Coastal Distribution Centers” VeeGeeZ has a focused effort to increase its online inventory and recently announced that inventory was increased by 37 percent.
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC announced previously that it has signed a contract with Venture Direct Worldwide of New York to handle its online marketing campaign. The experienced staff of Venture Direct Worldwide and VeeGeeZ management has developed a marketing plan to assist the company in moving to the next level. Venture Direct's Online Services Group offers a comprehensive range of media, including online lead generation, co-registration, contextual advertising and other web based ad formats, opt-in email, search marketing, and other customized online opportunities, backed by 10 years of online marketing experience, and more than 20 years of direct marketing industry leadership. The agreement with Venture Direct Worldwide for marketing represents an important step forward in the execution of our business model and I look forward to seeing good results.
On October 28th, 2003 VeeGeeZ.com, LLC awarded its new website design to Roy Vella, Web & Print Design Service (www.RoyVella.com). "The signing of this contract represents another phase of VeeGeeZ.com's business plan to provide enhanced services to its customers. In addition, the new design will not only meet our current video game rental customer base it will setup our expansion into the DVD rental world". I anticipate that the new website will be launched late in December 2003.
I believe that with the addition of a second distribution center on the east coast (New Company Headquarters), continued growth in video game inventory along with the successful launch of a US marketing campaign and website interface, that the company has made major steps toward implementing its’ business plan and to add shareholder value.
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
Here is something of interest.List of companies that rent videos and there traffic stats
Gamefly last 3 mths down 8% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.gamefly.com
Govojo last 3 mths down 20% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.govojo.com
VeeGeeZ last 3 mths up 340% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.veegeez.com/
These are the top 3 companies renting vidoes online. The traffic to the site has taken VeeGeeZ from an Alexa ranking of 559,831 3 months ago to 167,331 at present time. At this rate they should be into the top 100,000 websites on the web by the end of Jan. 2004 and if my calulations are correct they should hit top 55,000 websites by May 2004.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
That's a pretty impressive forecast PB. That certainly would help to both increase our subscriber and investor awareness. Haven't seen you on this board for a while. Thanks again! mach
300's are take price down to get shares
The candlestick analysis from american bulls is correct, and is a good way to assist you in making trades, not a sole reason to buy though.
I'm working on a chart...
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
From a RB member... that has earned a good reputation for interpreting MM activity. machMonday morning into the open-
The MMs will try and take PGHI down to get shares. Two of the MMs have bad lots of orders they cannot fill, and the orders are large orders...!
Be careful if you have Stop Limit Orders in place.....!
jwhite2913
The second reason is pure conjecture on my part, but this is a new company and they are looking for tax breaks, cheaper operating costs, lower labor costs, etc. And I can assure you they will get all that and more in Kentucky. Doing business in California, especially right now with all their money problems, is a nightmare for a fledgling company. IMO, once the company takes off, as I am sure it will, they will have distribution centers all over the country, just like Netflix does. I live in Oregon and have been a Netflix customer for over 18 months now. When I first signed on, it took an average of 3 days to get a DVD delivered, and the distribution point was in Washington State, a few hundred miles away. Four months ago they opened a new distribution center in Salem, Oregon, just 25 miles up the road. I put a DVD in the mail on Monday and on Wednesday I have the next one in my mailbox. The point is, it takes time to build up to that, and by moving to Kentucky they can cut down on the amount of time for games-n-flix to reach their customers.
That is the way I see it. It just seems to make sense to me.
Walt
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
If the MM signals hold true, this forecast is dead on balls accurate (my cousin vinnie). There were two 300's right before the close300's are take price down to get shares
The candlestick analysis from american bulls is correct, and is a good way to assist you in making trades, not a sole reason to buy though.
I'm working on a chart...
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
been working on some new projects that are eating away at my time but took some time to check veegeez traffic ranking. VeeGeeZ has 1000 titles but what no one has reported was how many of each title do they have. I seen somewheres and I can't remember and I will research to find is back in Dec.2002 they had around 400 members but no reports since then.
Look at VeeGeeZ traffic past show PGHI is on the ball. Dec. 2002 VeeGeeZ traffic was 987,673 when they acquired VeeGeeZ the traffic was almost unchanged. Now VeeGeeZ is ranked 167,331 in the short time they have owned VeeGeeZ. WOW!!
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
The following summary was posted by a non-registered member on another board. It's a great read. Enjoy! machOn September 26, 2003 Point Group Holdings Inc. (OTC BB: PGHI) announced that it had successfully acquired Veegeez.com, LLC of Santa Clarita, CA, an online video game rental company. Veegeez.com provides its subscribers video game rentals via the Internet similar to how NetFlix.com provides DVD's to its customers.
On December 11, 2003, Point Group Holdings Inc. filed form PRE-14C with the US SEC. The PRE-14C is essentially a petition by the company's board of directors to amend the Articles of Incorporation of the Company to change the name of the Company
to "GamezNFlix, Inc." The Company received the consent of a majority of the outstanding shares of Common Stock of the Company for this action under a definitive Proxy Statement filed on November 20, 2003. An Information Statement describing this action will be sent on or about December 15, 2003 to the Company's stockholders of record who have not been solicited for their consent of this corporate action.On December 9, 2003 Point Group Holdings, Inc. announced that its corporate headquarters is relocating from San Diego, California, to Franklin, Kentucky. The move is scheduled to take place during the last weeks of December. The relocation is part of the planned opening of PGHI's (soon to be GamezNFlix Inc.) subsidiary VeeGeeZ.com. The addition of the new distribution center for VeeGeeZ in Franklin, Kentucky will provide the company with distribution centers on both the east and west coasts of the United States. In support of the “Bi-Coastal Distribution Centers” VeeGeeZ has a focused effort to increase its online inventory and recently announced that inventory was increased by 37 percent.
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC announced previously that it has signed a contract with Venture Direct Worldwide of New York to handle its online marketing campaign. The experienced staff of Venture Direct Worldwide and VeeGeeZ management has developed a marketing plan to assist the company in moving to the next level. Venture Direct's Online Services Group offers a comprehensive range of media, including online lead generation, co-registration, contextual advertising and other web based ad formats, opt-in email, search marketing, and other customized online opportunities, backed by 10 years of online marketing experience, and more than 20 years of direct marketing industry leadership. The agreement with Venture Direct Worldwide for marketing represents an important step forward in the execution of our business model and I look forward to seeing good results.
On October 28th, 2003 VeeGeeZ.com, LLC awarded its new website design to Roy Vella, Web & Print Design Service (www.RoyVella.com). "The signing of this contract represents another phase of VeeGeeZ.com's business plan to provide enhanced services to its customers. In addition, the new design will not only meet our current video game rental customer base it will setup our expansion into the DVD rental world". I anticipate that the new website will be launched late in December 2003.
I believe that with the addition of a second distribution center on the east coast (New Company Headquarters), continued growth in video game inventory along with the successful launch of a US marketing campaign and website interface, that the company has made major steps toward implementing its’ business plan and to add shareholder value.
You "hit the nail on the head." These are all good signs. Fast accurate fullfillment is necessary to have happy customers. Happy customers is necessary for customer retention. Customer retention means a growing company... After all it's harder to find a new customer than too keep an existing customer. Finally, this all means greater shareholder value. Makes sense to me. Can not wait until we have 20 distribution centers across the USA. mach
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Originally posted by newstockpicker:
The company is moving from the West Coast to Kentucky because of their subscribers on the East coast. Someone said they couldn't understand why. The first reason, Kentucky is more centrally located in the Continental US than the West coast. An East coast subscriber orders a game and it takes 4 - 5 days to arrive from California. But only 2 days from Kentucky, and the same 2 days to the West coast.The second reason is pure conjecture on my part, but this is a new company and they are looking for tax breaks, cheaper operating costs, lower labor costs, etc. And I can assure you they will get all that and more in Kentucky. Doing business in California, especially right now with all their money problems, is a nightmare for a fledgling company. IMO, once the company takes off, as I am sure it will, they will have distribution centers all over the country, just like Netflix does. I live in Oregon and have been a Netflix customer for over 18 months now. When I first signed on, it took an average of 3 days to get a DVD delivered, and the distribution point was in Washington State, a few hundred miles away. Four months ago they opened a new distribution center in Salem, Oregon, just 25 miles up the road. I put a DVD in the mail on Monday and on Wednesday I have the next one in my mailbox. The point is, it takes time to build up to that, and by moving to Kentucky they can cut down on the amount of time for games-n-flix to reach their customers.
That is the way I see it. It just seems to make sense to me.
Walt
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Originally posted by newstockpicker:
The company is moving from the West Coast to Kentucky because of their subscribers on the East coast. Someone said they couldn't understand why. The first reason, Kentucky is more centrally located in the Continental US than the West coast. An East coast subscriber orders a game and it takes 4 - 5 days to arrive from California. But only 2 days from Kentucky, and the same 2 days to the West coast.The second reason is pure conjecture on my part, but this is a new company and they are looking for tax breaks, cheaper operating costs, lower labor costs, etc. And I can assure you they will get all that and more in Kentucky. Doing business in California, especially right now with all their money problems, is a nightmare for a fledgling company. IMO, once the company takes off, as I am sure it will, they will have distribution centers all over the country, just like Netflix does. I live in Oregon and have been a Netflix customer for over 18 months now. When I first signed on, it took an average of 3 days to get a DVD delivered, and the distribution point was in Washington State, a few hundred miles away. Four months ago they opened a new distribution center in Salem, Oregon, just 25 miles up the road. I put a DVD in the mail on Monday and on Wednesday I have the next one in my mailbox. The point is, it takes time to build up to that, and by moving to Kentucky they can cut down on the amount of time for games-n-flix to reach their customers.
That is the way I see it. It just seems to make sense to me.
Walt
quote:
Originally posted by pbwizard:
machLook at VeeGeeZ traffic past show PGHI is on the ball. Dec. 2002 VeeGeeZ traffic was 987,673 when they acquired VeeGeeZ the traffic was almost unchanged. Now VeeGeeZ is ranked 167,331 in the short time they have owned VeeGeeZ. WOW!!
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
The 1000 games comes from a personal email I, as well as others received from VeeGeez. Email them and ask them how many games they have. They have over 1000 game titles.Also, as far as the under 1000 subscribers, that’s an educated guess. Look at previous releases and do some math….and also look at in/out of stock ratio.
Mach …
I hope all this planning turns into something GREAT. It is a good idea to have more then one distribution center if you have thousands of games. Maybe they are planning on a huge buying spree…. More then what they are telling us
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quote:
Originally posted by drwright68:
Betinit, i thin you are mistakking 1000 titles with 1000 games they have many copies of each title.
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Don't know about everyone else, but I am really looking forward to the new site...Get all excited just thinking about it....hoping that the subscriber rate kept growing at that 30%-40% rate.
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
I don't think we need to worry about how many games/game titles they have at the momment. Once their subscriber base grows they will obviously add more games/titles. I sure it doesn't take long to add more games to their inventory, game publishers will be all over this company when it begins to advertise and grow.
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The two metrics on Alexa's report that should really mean anything to us are reach per million users and pageviews per user.
Reach Per Million users measures the number of internet users who visit a site per 1M that go online during a given time period. 3 Month average for the three:
Gamefly: 93.5
GoVojo: 19.5
Veegeez: 4.5
Netflix for comparison: 2,020
Pageviews Per User measures the number of pages each unique user views per visit. This shows us whether users are actually staying and browsing the site or just leaving right away.
Gamefly: 6.2
GoVojo: 6.5
Veegeez: 4.5
Netflix for comparison: 7.9
I think this gives us a more accurate picture of where Veegeez stands.
quote:
Originally posted by pbwizard:
Here is something of interest.List of companies that rent videos and there traffic stats
Gamefly last 3 mths down 8% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.gamefly.com
Govojo last 3 mths down 20% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.govojo.com
VeeGeeZ last 3 mths up 340% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.veegeez.com/
These are the top 3 companies renting vidoes online. The traffic to the site has taken VeeGeeZ from an Alexa ranking of 559,831 3 months ago to 167,331 at present time. At this rate they should be into the top 100,000 websites on the web by the end of Jan. 2004 and if my calulations are correct they should hit top 55,000 websites by May 2004.
Here is the latest chart, now I will try and explain the techs as unbiased as I can.
Volume- not on the chart, but very low, under 2 mil. We will need more volume in the coming week for this to move up.
Candles- 3 days in a row of bullish candles, a good sign. Today's candle, a Hammer, shows a possible drop on monday. For an example look at the bullish hammer in mid-november followed by a bearish candle. This is usually a short term price correction. I dont expect a correction of novembers magnitude, because of the low volume. A drop to .027 .028 is realistic. After the correction, the trend will resume upwards, as it did in November
Williams %R- a measure of Oversold or Overbought securities. 80 is oversold, 20 is Overbought. When at 50, no matter which direction the price is going it is seen as a healthy rate of change.
//PGHI// This agrees with the candles that the correction expected will be small if at all, because it was not overbought on Friday, it was a healthy uptrend. IMO, we would reach 20 (overbought) if it ran to .06-.08 in 2 weeks, at which time I would cash in, take free shares, and wait for consolidation to end for a new entry point. What we WANT is SLOW STEADY INCREASE. This is how real gains are made.
Stochastic- another measure of oversold/overbought. Notice how it moves with the williams %R. "Stokes" are superior IMO because it has a Fast and Slow line. When the fast crosses the slow, it indicates a possible new trend.
//PGHI// 3 days ago the Fast crossed the slow and began moving UPWARDS, also seen in November before the big run up (Mach I hope you noticed that, guessing you did).
MACD. One of the most important indicators. Moving Average Convergence Divergance. The red line is the SLOW LINE or longer duration MA, grey is the fast line or shorter duration MA. In this case they are the 12/26.
There are a couple things to look at with this. When ABOVE the 0 line, it is said to be BULLISH, below bearish.
//PGHI// Currently we are above the 0, so we are still in a longer term bull run.
YOU MUST LOOK AT BOTH LINES. When the fast line crosses the slow line it is an indication of a possible new trend. The fast line for PGHI will move closer to the slow line and will be similar to November, where it hovered around the 0. The blue divergence bars indicate which direction the slow line is moving.
EMA (Exponential Moving Average)- Moving average taking into consideration larger price swings and calculating them in. A good reference before entering a position. Trading above short duration MA is short term Bullish. Above long duration is Long term bullish.
When prices drop, the VOLUME must be looked at. Dropping through any MA line on HUGE volume is BAD. However, hitting or going through any MA on LIGHT volume is ok, and is a possible reversal point.
//PGHI// Over the past 2 months PGHI has been keeping with the 10 DAY MOVING AVERAGE which is very bullish.
PGHI has touched the 30 Day moving average twice- In November when it bottomed, and this week, where it bottomed. And has not seen the 50 Day Moving average in a few months. This tells you the stock is bullish on short, monthly and quarterly durations.
**************SUMMARY*************
VOLUME= Needs to increase to 3-4 Mil/Day on the up days, and stay below 2-3 Mil on the down days.
CANDLES= Hammer. Bullish. Small Correction Possible Monday to ~ .027 .028
WILLIAMS %R= Oversold, becoming less oversold
STOCHASTICS= Oversold, becoming less oversold
MACD= Slow above 0, Long term bullish
Fast at the 0 moving back above 0, short term bullish
Exponential Moving Averages 10,30,50= Bullish on all three counts
*****OTHER FACTORS / SPECULATION********
MM SIGNALS
100 sale means MM needs shares
200 sale means MM needs shares bad-lot of orders he cannot cover
300 sale means MM is going to take price down to get shares
400 sale means trade sideways
500 sale gapping up or down depending on which way the sale went
Friday
12:28:26 200 NEEDS SHARES, much buying afterwards
15:57:48 300 0.03 + OTCBB near the close
15:57:18 300 0.029 - OTCBB
NEW WEBSITE
Is expected to come out be the EOY
CHRISTMAS RALLY
Its a tradition!
NAME CHANGE
Changing Name to GamezNFlix possible by end of January?
SITE RANKING / HITS
Site continues to get more hits month over month as other competing sites dwindle.
This has taken 2 hours to prepare, 45 min to type out, please read it.
Thank you to Mach, Mav, Marty, PSU, Milty, Raven, BetNit, and all others who actually get dirty, sift through those SEC files and other junk to get the real DD done.
And of course, pbwizard for this banner
Conclusion:
Respect and embrace the very normal 50-62% retracements that take prices back to major trends. If a trade is missed, wait patiently for the market to retrace. Far more often than not, retracements happen... just as we are about to give up hope that they shall not.
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cabbage22 - thank technical analysis for God
Thanks for your hard work.
But here is the temp one.
http://hostingprod.com/@onlinevideogamerental.com/
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GREAT POST ! DO YOU NEED AN APPRENTICE I CAN CERTAINLY LEARN A HELL OF A LOT FROM A BRIGHT MIND LIKE YOURS.I'M SERIOUS!
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I am also a member of Allstocks, but have not had the time recently to post much here, and my interests in the penny’s is limited to issues with very strong potential that I can validate, which has the requisites to move off the OTC, and onto a major exchange; hence, my investment in PGHI.
Over the years I have learned a few things about MM activities - and Friday there were two key signals sent out of the last four trades. Those trades follow-
12/19/03 17:10:00 0.031 0.029 0.032 0
12/19/03 15:58:49 0.031 0.029 0.032 112500
12/19/03 15:58:35 0.03 0.029 0.032 0
***12/19/03 15:57:59 0.03 0.029 0.032 300
12/19/03 15:57:47 0.029 0.029 0.032 0
***12/19/03 15:57:21 0.029 0.029 0.032 300
12/19/03 15:57:09 0.03 0.029 0.032 0
12/19/03 15:42:32 0.03 0.029 0.032 50044
The key signals were the two trades marked with ***
Nobody in their right mind would trade 300 shares of a stock with PPS of $0.029 and $0.03 = the trades would cost $8.70 and $9.00 respectively, which unless someone is using Freetrade, would be less than Commission costs…!
MMs use a set of predetermined signals – For all practical purposes, if the PPS is less than $1.00 the signals are often used on the major exchanges also … and at times they are used for stocks with PPS of greater than $1.00. Since we are talking micro-penny stocks here, nobody would trade 100, 200, 300, 400 or 500 shares of a stock trading for less than $0.10 ,,, and I do mean – nobody…! The key to MM signals follows-
100 sale means MM needs shares
200 sale means MM needs shares bad-lot of orders he cannot cover
300 sale means MM is going to take price down to get shares
400 sale means trade sideways
500 sale gapping up or down depending on which way the PPS goes – Up or Down
I have not been able to prove the signals in a dead to rights manner, but over a long span of time (40 years, with 15 years of Online Trading experience), whenever you see 100, 200 and 300 share trades in penny stocks – the MMs are going to go after shares…! I am not sure, but nearly every time I see a 200 share trade, and an immediate response at the sale Price be it Bid, Ask or in between, I am positive that the MM needs shares to cover a Naked Short position. By watching the 100, 200, and 300 share trades, and observing the trading activity that follows … a distinct and definite defined pattern can be detected. It is readily apparent from the activity that follows the “cue bids,” the MMs move the PPS according to the signal sent. Also, when signals are exchanged – trading will often stop, or pause for extended periods of time … during those lulls I personally think MMs are taking inventory since the activity that follows such lulls usually takes the PPS down.
In the case of the 500 share trades – watch the answering bids … an increase in PPS usually means the PPS will trade according to supply and demand … a decrease in PPS usually means – the MMs will “follow the leader” and the PPS will go down to where it needs to in order for MMs to take out Stop Limits. Also watch out for “odd lots” of any stock such as 3476, or 5928 – that usually means a specific MM needs a specific number of shares to fill a specific order. By watching the trades that follow such odd lots, you can often ascertain the numbers of shares an MM is trying to buy.
DISCLAIMER…! This is not rocket science, and everyone should try and put the pieces of the MM puzzle together for themselves – And remember, this is my opinion, and my opinion only … there are no “books” available that can validate my opinion … so, let us call this – my theory, and everyone should do their own research; by that, I refuse to accept any responsibility for what each of you do with the information as stated herein.
jwhite2913
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
From a RB member... that has earned a good reputation for interpreting MM activity. machMonday morning into the open-
The MMs will try and take PGHI down to get shares. Two of the MMs have bad lots of orders they cannot fill, and the orders are large orders...!
Be careful if you have Stop Limit Orders in place.....!
jwhite2913
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Here is the latest chart, now I will try and explain the techs as unbiased as I can.
Volume- not on the chart, but very low, under 2 mil. We will need more volume in the coming week for this to move up.
Candles- 3 days in a row of bullish candles, a good sign. Today's candle, a Hammer, shows a possible drop on monday. For an example look at the bullish hammer in mid-november followed by a bearish candle. This is usually a short term price correction. I dont expect a correction of novembers magnitude, because of the low volume. A drop to .027 .028 is realistic. After the correction, the trend will resume upwards, as it did in November
Williams %R- a measure of Oversold or Overbought securities. 80 is oversold, 20 is Overbought. When at 50, no matter which direction the price is going it is seen as a healthy rate of change.
//PGHI// This agrees with the candles that the correction expected will be small if at all, because it was not overbought on Friday, it was a healthy uptrend. IMO, we would reach 20 (overbought) if it ran to .06-.08 in 2 weeks, at which time I would cash in, take free shares, and wait for consolidation to end for a new entry point. What we WANT is SLOW STEADY INCREASE. This is how real gains are made.Stochastic- another measure of oversold/overbought. Notice how it moves with the williams %R. "Stokes" are superior IMO because it has a Fast and Slow line. When the fast crosses the slow, it indicates a possible new trend.
//PGHI// 3 days ago the Fast crossed the slow and began moving UPWARDS, also seen in November before the big run up (Mach I hope you noticed that, guessing you did).MACD. One of the most important indicators. Moving Average Convergence Divergance. The red line is the SLOW LINE or longer duration MA, grey is the fast line or shorter duration MA. In this case they are the 12/26.
There are a couple things to look at with this. When ABOVE the 0 line, it is said to be BULLISH, below bearish.
//PGHI// Currently we are above the 0, so we are still in a longer term bull run.
YOU MUST LOOK AT BOTH LINES. When the fast line crosses the slow line it is an indication of a possible new trend. The fast line for PGHI will move closer to the slow line and will be similar to November, where it hovered around the 0. The blue divergence bars indicate which direction the slow line is moving.EMA (Exponential Moving Average)- Moving average taking into consideration larger price swings and calculating them in. A good reference before entering a position. Trading above short duration MA is short term Bullish. Above long duration is Long term bullish.
When prices drop, the VOLUME must be looked at. Dropping through any MA line on HUGE volume is BAD. However, hitting or going through any MA on LIGHT volume is ok, and is a possible reversal point.
//PGHI// Over the past 2 months PGHI has been keeping with the 10 DAY MOVING AVERAGE which is very bullish.
PGHI has touched the 30 Day moving average twice- In November when it bottomed, and this week, where it bottomed. And has not seen the 50 Day Moving average in a few months. This tells you the stock is bullish on short, monthly and quarterly durations.**************SUMMARY*************
VOLUME= Needs to increase to 3-4 Mil/Day on the up days, and stay below 2-3 Mil on the down days.CANDLES= Hammer. Bullish. Small Correction Possible Monday to ~ .027 .028
WILLIAMS %R= Oversold, becoming less oversold
STOCHASTICS= Oversold, becoming less oversold
MACD= Slow above 0, Long term bullish
Fast at the 0 moving back above 0, short term bullishExponential Moving Averages 10,30,50= Bullish on all three counts
*****OTHER FACTORS / SPECULATION********
MM SIGNALS
100 sale means MM needs shares
200 sale means MM needs shares bad-lot of orders he cannot cover
300 sale means MM is going to take price down to get shares
400 sale means trade sideways
500 sale gapping up or down depending on which way the sale wentFriday
12:28:26 200 NEEDS SHARES, much buying afterwards
15:57:48 300 0.03 + OTCBB near the close
15:57:18 300 0.029 - OTCBB
NEW WEBSITE
Is expected to come out be the EOYCHRISTMAS RALLY
Its a tradition!NAME CHANGE
Changing Name to GamezNFlix possible by end of January?SITE RANKING / HITS
Site continues to get more hits month over month as other competing sites dwindle.
This has taken 2 hours to prepare, 45 min to type out, please read it.Thank you to Mach, Mav, Marty, PSU, Milty, Raven, BetNit, and all others who actually get dirty, sift through those SEC files and other junk to get the real DD done.
And of course, pbwizard for this banner
Conclusion:
Respect and embrace the very normal 50-62% retracements that take prices back to major trends. If a trade is missed, wait patiently for the market to retrace. Far more often than not, retracements happen... just as we are about to give up hope that they shall not.
quote:
Originally posted by adrenalix:
You have to be really careful with reading traffic rankings since it is all relative. It is not necessarily an accurate measure of a site's popularity. (traffic could be the same one week but if 100 others dropped, your ranking goes up.)The two metrics on Alexa's report that should really mean anything to us are reach per million users and pageviews per user.
Reach Per Million users measures the number of internet users who visit a site per 1M that go online during a given time period. 3 Month average for the three:
Gamefly: 93.5
GoVojo: 19.5
Veegeez: 4.5
Netflix for comparison: 2,020Pageviews Per User measures the number of pages each unique user views per visit. This shows us whether users are actually staying and browsing the site or just leaving right away.
Gamefly: 6.2
GoVojo: 6.5
Veegeez: 4.5
Netflix for comparison: 7.9I think this gives us a more accurate picture of where Veegeez stands.
Thanks again. I often look "everywhere" that I can to gather information with respect to a the market, company, techs, and stock movement indicators. Your knowledge of how MM's work is certainly a value to all PGHI shareholders in general. I will make sure your post is highlighted for members here on Monday mornings as I would not like to see anyone lose shares as MM do their best to collect shares... and take out the stop-loss orders. Logic would tell me that a few traders may "assume" that .03 will now become a floor and place their stop-loss right under the floor... No doubt in my mind that MM will collect them as soon as they can forcing these individuals to likely buy back in at a higher price... as MM will also likely leave a big spread.... I personally read as many threads on every board as possible... Your threads have been very enlightening. Thanks again! mach
quote:
Originally posted by jwhite2913:
mach - Everyone,I am also a member of Allstocks, but have not had the time recently to post much here, and my interests in the penny’s is limited to issues with very strong potential that I can validate, which has the requisites to move off the OTC, and onto a major exchange; hence, my investment in PGHI.
Over the years I have learned a few things about MM activities - and Friday there were two key signals sent out of the last four trades. Those trades follow-
12/19/03 17:10:00 0.031 0.029 0.032 0
12/19/03 15:58:49 0.031 0.029 0.032 112500
12/19/03 15:58:35 0.03 0.029 0.032 0
***12/19/03 15:57:59 0.03 0.029 0.032 300
12/19/03 15:57:47 0.029 0.029 0.032 0
***12/19/03 15:57:21 0.029 0.029 0.032 300
12/19/03 15:57:09 0.03 0.029 0.032 0
12/19/03 15:42:32 0.03 0.029 0.032 50044The key signals were the two trades marked with ***
Nobody in their right mind would trade 300 shares of a stock with PPS of $0.029 and $0.03 = the trades would cost $8.70 and $9.00 respectively, which unless someone is using Freetrade, would be less than Commission costs…!
MMs use a set of predetermined signals – For all practical purposes, if the PPS is less than $1.00 the signals are often used on the major exchanges also … and at times they are used for stocks with PPS of greater than $1.00. Since we are talking micro-penny stocks here, nobody would trade 100, 200, 300, 400 or 500 shares of a stock trading for less than $0.10 ,,, and I do mean – nobody…! The key to MM signals follows-
100 sale means MM needs shares
200 sale means MM needs shares bad-lot of orders he cannot cover
300 sale means MM is going to take price down to get shares
400 sale means trade sideways
500 sale gapping up or down depending on which way the PPS goes – Up or DownI have not been able to prove the signals in a dead to rights manner, but over a long span of time (40 years, with 15 years of Online Trading experience), whenever you see 100, 200 and 300 share trades in penny stocks – the MMs are going to go after shares…! I am not sure, but nearly every time I see a 200 share trade, and an immediate response at the sale Price be it Bid, Ask or in between, I am positive that the MM needs shares to cover a Naked Short position. By watching the 100, 200, and 300 share trades, and observing the trading activity that follows … a distinct and definite defined pattern can be detected. It is readily apparent from the activity that follows the “cue bids,” the MMs move the PPS according to the signal sent. Also, when signals are exchanged – trading will often stop, or pause for extended periods of time … during those lulls I personally think MMs are taking inventory since the activity that follows such lulls usually takes the PPS down.
In the case of the 500 share trades – watch the answering bids … an increase in PPS usually means the PPS will trade according to supply and demand … a decrease in PPS usually means – the MMs will “follow the leader” and the PPS will go down to where it needs to in order for MMs to take out Stop Limits. Also watch out for “odd lots” of any stock such as 3476, or 5928 – that usually means a specific MM needs a specific number of shares to fill a specific order. By watching the trades that follow such odd lots, you can often ascertain the numbers of shares an MM is trying to buy.
DISCLAIMER…! This is not rocket science, and everyone should try and put the pieces of the MM puzzle together for themselves – And remember, this is my opinion, and my opinion only … there are no “books” available that can validate my opinion … so, let us call this – my theory, and everyone should do their own research; by that, I refuse to accept any responsibility for what each of you do with the information as stated herein.
jwhite2913
WITH REGARDS TO THE MM SIGNALS WOULD YOU THINK THAT THEY KNOW PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE SIGNALS AND CHANGE THEM FROM TIME TO TIME? YOU SPOKE ABOUT A LULL IN TRADING WILL LEAD TO A DROP IN PRICE IS THAT A PATTERN THAT IS CONSISTANT OR IS IT A 50/50 CHANCE.I SAT IN ONE OF THOSE LULLS ON FRIDAY WITH GMED @.041 AND WHEN THE LULL WAS OVER IT WAS @0.048.I TOO DID NOT BUY FEARING THE DROP AND THEN WATCHED IT SHOOT UP.WOULD LIKE SOME DIRECTION FROM SOMEONE MORE SEASONED THAN ME.
TRSTURGUT-18
FOUND THIS ON I-HUB...THOUGH IT WAS INTERSTING READING.
understanding level 2..
first you have to realise that nite makes up over 60 percent of all orders filled on the otc..
than you have to know schb runs second...
than on the stock you have to pick up which party is doing the
raising of the funds..you have a convertible company that is there strictly to sell and where ever there is a convertible you have a company who was hired to push the stock and support the stock...
now the use of TRAC and DATA are very strategic moves on the bid that once was considered pawns by NITE and certain paid promoters before mytrack made this affordable to everyone..
for the most part when you see them and nite on the offer of a non moving stock,it simply is NITE toying with it..
GVRC-identifying this mm is tricky on stocks because he plays an interesting role lately...you must know the history and or find out real quickly from others because this mm i have noticed looks to be a black hole..in saying that he looks to be a heavy weight that some are using now to short...
this mm usually is one now that is there at the top of the run..
BAMM-this is a very positive sign to a stock,he however does not have the power of a nite,but does show that the stock is being pushed and you have to be patient to make sure others join..good signal is if mm's like TDCM,VNDM,QUIN follow him
WMIN,UCAP,ACAP,DOMS,AGIS,VFIN-THIS IS WHERE THE BIG AMOUNT OF SHARES TO HIT YOU ARE...
HILL,FRAN,CRWN,WIEN- these are the second tier of mm's,but before mytracks ECN,they were pawns used by NITE to either show strength or weakness to a stock..
HILL AND CRWN usually go together a lot..they can start a run
but cant afford to take a bit hit of volume either way without
help from schb or nite..
THERE IS NO SUBSTITE FOR HAVING A HISTORY ON A STOCK...
when you already know who does what on a stock and its
history you have half the battle won..the hard part is diversity in the market,in understanding level 2 and seeing each mm's responsibility on a given day takes away from other stocks you may be interested in..
but if you are going to be a walk down player than it is essential to know who pushed the stock up,who was trying to block the move,where each individual day of the run closed and it where it gapped up to so you can find your marking points to look for on the walkdown...
BROKERAGE FIRM THAT FILLS WHEN YOU NEED IT FILLED...
this can not be understated that in the market of misunderstanding you need a firm that allows you options
to pick up shares in the last minute before an uptick..
when there are several mm's on the ask you can be wrong or tricked,but you lessen your odds as a stock lightens and you can still get a fill on your stock..
you cant replace history of knowing how long a nite or schb or others take to fill on say a moving FNIX on news...
but with an online service that gives you an option to use others options in case one does not fill is an alternative..
this is why i use MYTRACK..
GUT FEELING-unfortuantely after everything you read and learn if you dont get an instinct to what it all means and a feel for the stocks,it wont help..concentrate and learn the signals of who is telling you on the stock it is moving..
if you are going to trade for a living,remember each stock you trade and why you bought,where and who led it,it all comes back in a circle and you will trade it again and the beauty of the otc,probably back to the same prices over time that you did last time..
I use MyTrack also, but can't find anywhere in the program that lets me pick which MM to use for buying/selling. I have noticed a few times in the past months that I have placed a buy/sell order that was routed to say ... NITE, which was higher or lower than my order, when I could plainly see on level 2 that a different MM was BID/ASK at the level I placed my buy/sell order, but MyTrack sent it to a different MM that was higher/lower than what I was willing to buy/sell. Some orders were eventually filled, but sometimes it took hours, and some were never filled at all, even though the other MM bid/ask was what I placed on my order. Did this post make sense to anyone but me?? I hope I got my point across and if anyone can shed some light on how to fix it I would appreciat it. Thanks.
Walt
quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
Mach:I use MyTrack also, but can't find anywhere in the program that lets me pick which MM to use for buying/selling. I have noticed a few times in the past months that I have placed a buy/sell order that was routed to say ... NITE, which was higher or lower than my order, when I could plainly see on level 2 that a different MM was BID/ASK at the level I placed my buy/sell order, but MyTrack sent it to a different MM that was higher/lower than what I was willing to buy/sell. Some orders were eventually filled, but sometimes it took hours, and some were never filled at all, even though the other MM bid/ask was what I placed on my order. Did this post make sense to anyone but me?? I hope I got my point across and if anyone can shed some light on how to fix it I would appreciat it. Thanks.
Walt
it is broker .. $500 to open an account, $12.95 a trade, free software
quote:
Originally posted by coumars:
What is My track, everything seems to me Geek and Latin
On September 26, 2003 Point Group Holdings Inc. (OTC BB: PGHI) announced that it had successfully acquired Veegeez.com, LLC of Santa Clarita, CA, an online video game rental company. Veegeez.com provides its subscribers video game rentals via the Internet similar to how NetFlix.com provides DVD's to its customers.
On December 11, 2003, Point Group Holdings Inc. filed form PRE-14C with the US SEC. The PRE-14C is essentially a petition by the company's board of directors to amend the Articles of Incorporation of the Company to change the name of the Company to "GamezNFlix, Inc." The Company received the consent of a majority of the outstanding shares of Common Stock of the Company for this action under a definitive Proxy Statement filed on November 20, 2003. An Information Statement describing this action will be sent on or about December 15, 2003 to the Company's stockholders of record who have not been solicited for their consent of this corporate action.
On December 9, 2003 Point Group Holdings, Inc. announced that its corporate headquarters is relocating from San Diego, California, to Franklin, Kentucky. The move is scheduled to take place during the last weeks of December. The relocation is part of the planned opening of PGHI's (soon to be GamezNFlix Inc.) subsidiary VeeGeeZ.com. The addition of the new distribution center for VeeGeeZ in Franklin, Kentucky will provide the company with distribution centers on both the east and west coasts of the United States. In support of the “Bi-Coastal Distribution Centers” VeeGeeZ has a focused effort to increase its online inventory and recently announced that inventory was increased by 37 percent.
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC announced previously that it has signed a contract with Venture Direct Worldwide of New York to handle its online marketing campaign. The experienced staff of Venture Direct Worldwide and VeeGeeZ management has developed a marketing plan to assist the company in moving to the next level. Venture Direct's Online Services Group offers a comprehensive range of media, including online lead generation, co-registration, contextual advertising and other web based ad formats, opt-in email, search marketing, and other customized online opportunities, backed by 10 years of online marketing experience, and more than 20 years of direct marketing industry leadership. The agreement with Venture Direct Worldwide for marketing represents an important step forward in the execution of our business model and I look forward to seeing good results.
On October 28th, 2003 VeeGeeZ.com, LLC awarded its new website design to Roy Vella, Web & Print Design Service (www.RoyVella.com). "The signing of this contract represents another phase of VeeGeeZ.com's business plan to provide enhanced services to its customers. In addition, the new design will not only meet our current video game rental customer base it will setup our expansion into the DVD rental world". I anticipate that the new website will be launched late in December 2003.
I believe that with the addition of a second distribution center on the east coast (New Company Headquarters), continued growth in video game inventory along with the successful launch of a US marketing campaign and website interface, that the company has made major steps toward implementing its’ business plan and to add shareholder value.
As soon as the new website is up I am going to start spending a couple hours a week going into all the game chat rooms I can find and posting this web site.
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Doing my part. What do you guys think...any ideas. The web page will be www.onlinevideogamerental.comBut here is the temp one.
http://hostingprod.com/@onlinevideogamerental.com/[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited December 20, 2003).]
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I see that you guys have bee looking at my page because of the counter but no one says anything. You guys are not ignoring me are youAs soon as the new website is up I am going to start spending a couple hours a week going into all the game chat rooms I can find and posting this web site.
PSU
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Originally posted by jwhite2913:
mach - Everyone,I am also a member of Allstocks, but have not had the time recently to post much here, and my interests in the penny?s is limited to issues with very strong potential that I can validate, which has the requisites to move off the OTC, and onto a major exchange; hence, my investment in PGHI.
Over the years I have learned a few things about MM activities - and Friday there were two key signals sent out of the last four trades. Those trades follow-
12/19/03 17:10:00 0.031 0.029 0.032 0
12/19/03 15:58:49 0.031 0.029 0.032 112500
12/19/03 15:58:35 0.03 0.029 0.032 0
***12/19/03 15:57:59 0.03 0.029 0.032 300
12/19/03 15:57:47 0.029 0.029 0.032 0
***12/19/03 15:57:21 0.029 0.029 0.032 300
12/19/03 15:57:09 0.03 0.029 0.032 0
12/19/03 15:42:32 0.03 0.029 0.032 50044The key signals were the two trades marked with ***
Nobody in their right mind would trade 300 shares of a stock with PPS of $0.029 and $0.03 = the trades would cost $8.70 and $9.00 respectively, which unless someone is using Freetrade, would be less than Commission costs?!
MMs use a set of predetermined signals ? For all practical purposes, if the PPS is less than $1.00 the signals are often used on the major exchanges also ? and at times they are used for stocks with PPS of greater than $1.00. Since we are talking micro-penny stocks here, nobody would trade 100, 200, 300, 400 or 500 shares of a stock trading for less than $0.10 ,,, and I do mean ? nobody?! The key to MM signals follows-
100 sale means MM needs shares
200 sale means MM needs shares bad-lot of orders he cannot cover
300 sale means MM is going to take price down to get shares
400 sale means trade sideways
500 sale gapping up or down depending on which way the PPS goes ? Up or DownI have not been able to prove the signals in a dead to rights manner, but over a long span of time (40 years, with 15 years of Online Trading experience), whenever you see 100, 200 and 300 share trades in penny stocks ? the MMs are going to go after shares?! I am not sure, but nearly every time I see a 200 share trade, and an immediate response at the sale Price be it Bid, Ask or in between, I am positive that the MM needs shares to cover a Naked Short position. By watching the 100, 200, and 300 share trades, and observing the trading activity that follows ? a distinct and definite defined pattern can be detected. It is readily apparent from the activity that follows the ?cue bids,? the MMs move the PPS according to the signal sent. Also, when signals are exchanged ? trading will often stop, or pause for extended periods of time ? during those lulls I personally think MMs are taking inventory since the activity that follows such lulls usually takes the PPS down.
In the case of the 500 share trades ? watch the answering bids ? an increase in PPS usually means the PPS will trade according to supply and demand ? a decrease in PPS usually means ? the MMs will ?follow the leader? and the PPS will go down to where it needs to in order for MMs to take out Stop Limits. Also watch out for ?odd lots? of any stock such as 3476, or 5928 ? that usually means a specific MM needs a specific number of shares to fill a specific order. By watching the trades that follow such odd lots, you can often ascertain the numbers of shares an MM is trying to buy.
DISCLAIMER?! This is not rocket science, and everyone should try and put the pieces of the MM puzzle together for themselves ? And remember, this is my opinion, and my opinion only ? there are no ?books? available that can validate my opinion ? so, let us call this ? my theory, and everyone should do their own research; by that, I refuse to accept any responsibility for what each of you do with the information as stated herein.
jwhite2913
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I see that you guys have bee looking at my page because of the counter but no one says anything. You guys are not ignoring me are youAs soon as the new website is up I am going to start spending a couple hours a week going into all the game chat rooms I can find and posting this web site.
Now that is 3 ad site put up in the last 72 hour. http://users.adelphia.net/~x1f2/ http://www.video-game-rentals.us/
and now http://hostingprod.com/@onlinevideogamerental.com/ soon the be http://www.onlinevideogamerental.com
Great team work.
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I especially like the name OnlineVideoGameRental.com
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
Good job with ad site. Once the site is up on the master domain name you need to submit to google and like I have said I will point a link from my site to yours so Google will pay more attaintion to it. One other thing I would suggest is keywords in the alt tags of the pictures. Your keyword density for video game rentals is only 1.03%. Google like to see the density around 3% and even better at 9% but I would not go any higher then 13% to avoid keyword spamming. Heres a place you can check your keyword density for free. http://www.keyworddensity.com/Now that is 3 ad site put up in the last 72 hour. http://users.adelphia.net/~x1f2/ http://www.video-game-rentals.us/
and now http://hostingprod.com/@onlinevideogamerental.com/ soon the be http://www.onlinevideogamerental.com
Great team work.
THIS ACQUISITION AGREEMENT is made as of September 25, 2003 by and
between Point Group Holdings, Inc., a Nevada corporation ("PGHI"), and
the shareholders of Veegeez.com, LLC, a California limited liability
company ("VC").
10.1 Audit. PGHI will cause an audit to be completed of VC records
during PGHI's year-end closing.
10.2 $2,000,000 Raise. Following the Closing Date, PGHI shall use
its best efforts to raise working capital in the amount of Two Million
Dollars during the 12 months immediately following closing. The
capital funding will be used for inventory purchases or other normal
business related expenses that are approved for payment by PGHI (Does
include any Salaries, Bonuses, Commissions or management wages.) The
first Five Hundred Thousand Dollars ($500,000) must be raised within
six (6) months following the closing and the Two Million Dollars
($2,000,000) must be raised within (12) months following the closing,
should this not occur, the parties may choose to cancel this agreement
by the current members of VC returning stock issued (14 million PGHI
Stock) to PGHI and PGHI returning corporate records, assets, trade
secrets and units to the current members of VC. If parties cancel
this agreement, the current members of VC will return to PGHI any and
all capital invested in VC in the form of cash and/or inventory (fair
market value at the time not cost) equal to the capital invested to
date, not to include any salaries and/or bonuses previously paid
pursuant to the consulting agreements.
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Originally posted by Degs:
I am trying to do some research and found this, does this mean the deal is not final yet,and that PGHI stills owes monies to VeeGeez?THIS ACQUISITION AGREEMENT is made as of September 25, 2003 by and
between Point Group Holdings, Inc., a Nevada corporation ("PGHI"), and
the shareholders of Veegeez.com, LLC, a California limited liability
company ("VC").10.1 Audit. PGHI will cause an audit to be completed of VC records
during PGHI's year-end closing.10.2 $2,000,000 Raise. Following the Closing Date, PGHI shall use
its best efforts to raise working capital in the amount of Two Million
Dollars during the 12 months immediately following closing. The
capital funding will be used for inventory purchases or other normal
business related expenses that are approved for payment by PGHI (Does
include any Salaries, Bonuses, Commissions or management wages.) The
first Five Hundred Thousand Dollars ($500,000) must be raised within
six (6) months following the closing and the Two Million Dollars
($2,000,000) must be raised within (12) months following the closing,
should this not occur, the parties may choose to cancel this agreement
by the current members of VC returning stock issued (14 million PGHI
Stock) to PGHI and PGHI returning corporate records, assets, trade
secrets and units to the current members of VC. If parties cancel
this agreement, the current members of VC will return to PGHI any and
all capital invested in VC in the form of cash and/or inventory (fair
market value at the time not cost) equal to the capital invested to
date, not to include any salaries and/or bonuses previously paid
pursuant to the consulting agreements.
My opinion is that the website is going to be the real kicker for us. I was told that the website coming out is not the same as the one that was floating around earlier….but if it resembles it in any way….we will be in great shape. I have looked at the competitors websites and I like Roy Vella’s first idea better. More game like……then its off to advertising.
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I am not too worried about this. I read it last week and at first it concerned me, then I realized a couple of things. They have 6 months to raise the first $500,000 so it should not affect us in the short term. Second, they are doing the private placement to raise money, and they also can issue some of those 100,000,000 shares they have ready, if they need to, lets hope they don’t need to. They also have the new site coming out and the advertising campaign, plus…I am sure they could borrow the at least some of the money if they had to.My opinion is that the website is going to be the real kicker for us. I was told that the website coming out is not the same as the one that was floating around earlier….but if it resembles it in any way….we will be in great shape. I have looked at the competitors websites and I like Roy Vella’s first idea better. More game like……then its off to advertising.
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I am not too worried about this. I read it last week and at first it concerned me, then I realized a couple of things. They have 6 months to raise the first $500,000 so it should not affect us in the short term. Second, they are doing the private placement to raise money, and they also can issue some of those 100,000,000 shares they have ready, if they need to, lets hope they don’t need to. They also have the new site coming out and the advertising campaign, plus…I am sure they could borrow the at least some of the money if they had to.My opinion is that the website is going to be the real kicker for us. I was told that the website coming out is not the same as the one that was floating around earlier….but if it resembles it in any way….we will be in great shape. I have looked at the competitors websites and I like Roy Vella’s first idea better. More game like……then its off to advertising.
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I am not too worried about this. I read it last week and at first it concerned me, then I realized a couple of things. They have 6 months to raise the first $500,000 so it should not affect us in the short term. Second, they are doing the private placement to raise money, and they also can issue some of those 100,000,000 shares they have ready, if they need to, lets hope they don’t need to. They also have the new site coming out and the advertising campaign, plus…I am sure they could borrow the at least some of the money if they had to.My opinion is that the website is going to be the real kicker for us. I was told that the website coming out is not the same as the one that was floating around earlier….but if it resembles it in any way….we will be in great shape. I have looked at the competitors websites and I like Roy Vella’s first idea better. More game like……then its off to advertising.
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
Good job with ad site. Once the site is up on the master domain name you need to submit to google and like I have said I will point a link from my site to yours so Google will pay more attaintion to it. One other thing I would suggest is keywords in the alt tags of the pictures. Your keyword density for video game rentals is only 1.03%. Google like to see the density around 3% and even better at 9% but I would not go any higher then 13% to avoid keyword spamming. Heres a place you can check your keyword density for free. http://www.keyworddensity.com/Now that is 3 ad site put up in the last 72 hour. http://users.adelphia.net/~x1f2/ http://www.video-game-rentals.us/
and now http://hostingprod.com/@onlinevideogamerental.com/ soon the be http://www.onlinevideogamerental.com
Great team work.
The information you found is the SEC 8-K form filed by PGHI on 10/9/2003(see link below).
The closing date was September 25th 2003. On this date VeeGeez(VC) and Point Group Holdings(PGHI) exchanged shares on a 1-for-1 basis. Actually 14,000,000 for 14,000,000.
Now, in the section you posted, both VC and PGHI can cancel the agreement if they so choose if the following is not in order:
$2,000,000 of working capital raised by PGHI no later than 9/25/2004. First $500,000 of the Two Million working capital raised by 2/25/2004. If the agreement is canceled, both parties will return the 14,000,000 shares minus any salaries and/or bonus(Please see link below - section 10.2)
This is not scary as read in another post.
Look at it this way, do you think that PGHI would of had made the move to KY, if the $500,000 of capital funding wasn't in place? Remember the prior statement is based on pure speculation, but is a good assumption.
The other $1,500,000.00 could be raised maybe by the PPM(Private Placement)? Maybe?
Anyway, I hope this clarified some of this and eased some anxiety. - Marty
LINK OF FILING(PLEASE READ) http://knobias.10kwizard.com/filing.php?repo=tenk&ipage=2368374&doc=1&total=&back=2&g=&attach=on
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I am not sure how to add keywords to the alt tags in the pictures. I looked at the help..and still could't find anything.
Name______Location______Ship-Time______#Locations______Price
Gamefly _ California _ 2-4 _ One _ $21.95
GoVoJo _ California _ 4-5 _ one _ $19.95
Player's Choice _ N.Carolina _ 50% NextDay _ One _ $19.95
RedOctane _ California _ 3-4 _ One _ $18.95
RentZero _ Texas _ 1-6 _ One _ $21.95
DvdBarn _ Arizona/California _ 1-5 _ Two _ $14.95
AngelGamer _ Texas _ 2-4 _ One _ $19.95
DvdAvenue _ Maryland _ 1-5 _ One _ $14.95
(Note: the price is based on 2 game/dvd rental)
::::: All information provided above is public domain from the named facilities website(s) :::::
____________________________________________
After reviewing almost all the.....
available online console game rental sites. I have come to this conclusion: if VGs was not a public held company, I would NOT sink any money into it. There is way too much of a gamble on this, not including all the competition out there.
Do you all see my point? This is what puts VGs way out in front of the competition, being a publicly held company!
Before someone responds(please do), understand when I said "I would not sink any money into it"; I mean, if I had the opportunity to invest in a privately held VeeGeez, I probably would not take the risk, understood?
Thank you, - Marty
As for the MM signals, people are minimally aware that they exist- and they are just single trades out of a whole day, so they are easily missed.
For example, how many people would've noticed them if it was not brought to their attention? Very few. But common sense tells you nobody puts a $9 trade through.
I have watched these go through, and watched the stock act accordingly on every occasion, some more pronounced than others.
the last singals on PGHI were at 3:57 est. Two 300's
Its hard to say whether trading will follow on Monday- given the amount of time lapse. We will see.
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
JWHITE,WITH REGARDS TO THE MM SIGNALS WOULD YOU THINK THAT THEY KNOW PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE SIGNALS AND CHANGE THEM FROM TIME TO TIME? YOU SPOKE ABOUT A LULL IN TRADING WILL LEAD TO A DROP IN PRICE IS THAT A PATTERN THAT IS CONSISTANT OR IS IT A 50/50 CHANCE.I SAT IN ONE OF THOSE LULLS ON FRIDAY WITH GMED @.041 AND WHEN THE LULL WAS OVER IT WAS @0.048.I TOO DID NOT BUY FEARING THE DROP AND THEN WATCHED IT SHOOT UP.WOULD LIKE SOME DIRECTION FROM SOMEONE MORE SEASONED THAN ME.
TRSTURGUT-18
Also I added a link from one of my website linking to your site to help Google pick you up faster.
Site looks great.
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I am not sure how to add keywords to the alt tags in the pictures. I looked at the help..and still could't find anything.
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
What are you using to creat the page. Front Page, Dreamweaver, Hotdog or other. I can give you detailed instruction but need to know software.Also I added a link from one of my website linking to your site to help Google pick you up faster.
Site looks great.
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Have not played with page builder but can you modify the html? If so then here is an example:
<img src="http://hostingprod.com/@onlinevideogamerental.com/veegeez.gif" alt="online video game rentals" border="0" width="650" height="107">
This image tag includes the alt tag with the keyword "online video game rentals". You just find the image tag and add (alt="keyword")
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I am using page builder
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I just stopped by to take a quick look,
saw this one..Couldn't resist..This is a very very informative post for people especially who don't have knowledge about TA..
I'll see you on Sunday night!!
P.S: This thread is getting more & more productive, and I like it..Thanks guys...
GL
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Here is the latest chart, now I will try and explain the techs as unbiased as I can.
Volume- not on the chart, but very low, under 2 mil. We will need more volume in the coming week for this to move up.
Candles- 3 days in a row of bullish candles, a good sign. Today's candle, a Hammer, shows a possible drop on monday. For an example look at the bullish hammer in mid-november followed by a bearish candle. This is usually a short term price correction. I dont expect a correction of novembers magnitude, because of the low volume. A drop to .027 .028 is realistic. After the correction, the trend will resume upwards, as it did in November
Williams %R- a measure of Oversold or Overbought securities. 80 is oversold, 20 is Overbought. When at 50, no matter which direction the price is going it is seen as a healthy rate of change.
//PGHI// This agrees with the candles that the correction expected will be small if at all, because it was not overbought on Friday, it was a healthy uptrend. IMO, we would reach 20 (overbought) if it ran to .06-.08 in 2 weeks, at which time I would cash in, take free shares, and wait for consolidation to end for a new entry point. What we WANT is SLOW STEADY INCREASE. This is how real gains are made.Stochastic- another measure of oversold/overbought. Notice how it moves with the williams %R. "Stokes" are superior IMO because it has a Fast and Slow line. When the fast crosses the slow, it indicates a possible new trend.
//PGHI// 3 days ago the Fast crossed the slow and began moving UPWARDS, also seen in November before the big run up (Mach I hope you noticed that, guessing you did).MACD. One of the most important indicators. Moving Average Convergence Divergance. The red line is the SLOW LINE or longer duration MA, grey is the fast line or shorter duration MA. In this case they are the 12/26.
There are a couple things to look at with this. When ABOVE the 0 line, it is said to be BULLISH, below bearish.
//PGHI// Currently we are above the 0, so we are still in a longer term bull run.
YOU MUST LOOK AT BOTH LINES. When the fast line crosses the slow line it is an indication of a possible new trend. The fast line for PGHI will move closer to the slow line and will be similar to November, where it hovered around the 0. The blue divergence bars indicate which direction the slow line is moving.EMA (Exponential Moving Average)- Moving average taking into consideration larger price swings and calculating them in. A good reference before entering a position. Trading above short duration MA is short term Bullish. Above long duration is Long term bullish.
When prices drop, the VOLUME must be looked at. Dropping through any MA line on HUGE volume is BAD. However, hitting or going through any MA on LIGHT volume is ok, and is a possible reversal point.
//PGHI// Over the past 2 months PGHI has been keeping with the 10 DAY MOVING AVERAGE which is very bullish.
PGHI has touched the 30 Day moving average twice- In November when it bottomed, and this week, where it bottomed. And has not seen the 50 Day Moving average in a few months. This tells you the stock is bullish on short, monthly and quarterly durations.**************SUMMARY*************
VOLUME= Needs to increase to 3-4 Mil/Day on the up days, and stay below 2-3 Mil on the down days.CANDLES= Hammer. Bullish. Small Correction Possible Monday to ~ .027 .028
WILLIAMS %R= Oversold, becoming less oversold
STOCHASTICS= Oversold, becoming less oversold
MACD= Slow above 0, Long term bullish
Fast at the 0 moving back above 0, short term bullishExponential Moving Averages 10,30,50= Bullish on all three counts
*****OTHER FACTORS / SPECULATION********
MM SIGNALS
100 sale means MM needs shares
200 sale means MM needs shares bad-lot of orders he cannot cover
300 sale means MM is going to take price down to get shares
400 sale means trade sideways
500 sale gapping up or down depending on which way the sale wentFriday
12:28:26 200 NEEDS SHARES, much buying afterwards
15:57:48 300 0.03 + OTCBB near the close
15:57:18 300 0.029 - OTCBB
NEW WEBSITE
Is expected to come out be the EOYCHRISTMAS RALLY
Its a tradition!NAME CHANGE
Changing Name to GamezNFlix possible by end of January?SITE RANKING / HITS
Site continues to get more hits month over month as other competing sites dwindle.
This has taken 2 hours to prepare, 45 min to type out, please read it.Thank you to Mach, Mav, Marty, PSU, Milty, Raven, BetNit, and all others who actually get dirty, sift through those SEC files and other junk to get the real DD done.
And of course, pbwizard for this banner
Conclusion:
Respect and embrace the very normal 50-62% retracements that take prices back to major trends. If a trade is missed, wait patiently for the market to retrace. Far more often than not, retracements happen... just as we are about to give up hope that they shall not.
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Also, if PGHI can get a quick leg up on the compitition, there would be nothing stopping them from attempting to purchase some of their competitors. Wouldn't that be nice. A year or so down the line when subs and revenue are up...go in and make some offers from some of those sites. It might be expensive but it would have an immediate influx of subs
This is a huge point! Or just maybe shopped by somebody on the Nasdaq! Hmmmm?
thanks BetNitAll! Great Post. -
in order to get the big boys buying attention, Gameznflix will have to move off the OTC. -
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH.....FOUND THIS ON I-HUB...THOUGH IT WAS INTERSTING READING.
understanding level 2..
first you have to realise that nite makes up over 60 percent of all orders filled on the otc..
than you have to know schb runs second...
than on the stock you have to pick up which party is doing the
raising of the funds..you have a convertible company that is there strictly to sell and where ever there is a convertible you have a company who was hired to push the stock and support the stock...now the use of TRAC and DATA are very strategic moves on the bid that once was considered pawns by NITE and certain paid promoters before mytrack made this affordable to everyone..
for the most part when you see them and nite on the offer of a non moving stock,it simply is NITE toying with it..GVRC-identifying this mm is tricky on stocks because he plays an interesting role lately...you must know the history and or find out real quickly from others because this mm i have noticed looks to be a black hole..in saying that he looks to be a heavy weight that some are using now to short...
this mm usually is one now that is there at the top of the run..BAMM-this is a very positive sign to a stock,he however does not have the power of a nite,but does show that the stock is being pushed and you have to be patient to make sure others join..good signal is if mm's like TDCM,VNDM,QUIN follow him
WMIN,UCAP,ACAP,DOMS,AGIS,VFIN-THIS IS WHERE THE BIG AMOUNT OF SHARES TO HIT YOU ARE...
HILL,FRAN,CRWN,WIEN- these are the second tier of mm's,but before mytracks ECN,they were pawns used by NITE to either show strength or weakness to a stock..
HILL AND CRWN usually go together a lot..they can start a run
but cant afford to take a bit hit of volume either way without
help from schb or nite..THERE IS NO SUBSTITE FOR HAVING A HISTORY ON A STOCK...
when you already know who does what on a stock and its
history you have half the battle won..the hard part is diversity in the market,in understanding level 2 and seeing each mm's responsibility on a given day takes away from other stocks you may be interested in..
but if you are going to be a walk down player than it is essential to know who pushed the stock up,who was trying to block the move,where each individual day of the run closed and it where it gapped up to so you can find your marking points to look for on the walkdown...BROKERAGE FIRM THAT FILLS WHEN YOU NEED IT FILLED...
this can not be understated that in the market of misunderstanding you need a firm that allows you options
to pick up shares in the last minute before an uptick..
when there are several mm's on the ask you can be wrong or tricked,but you lessen your odds as a stock lightens and you can still get a fill on your stock..
you cant replace history of knowing how long a nite or schb or others take to fill on say a moving FNIX on news...
but with an online service that gives you an option to use others options in case one does not fill is an alternative..
this is why i use MYTRACK..GUT FEELING-unfortuantely after everything you read and learn if you dont get an instinct to what it all means and a feel for the stocks,it wont help..concentrate and learn the signals of who is telling you on the stock it is moving..
if you are going to trade for a living,remember each stock you trade and why you bought,where and who led it,it all comes back in a circle and you will trade it again and the beauty of the otc,probably back to the same prices over time that you did last time..
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BetNitAll:
"...there would be nothing stopping them from attempting to purchase some of their competitors."This is a huge point! Or just maybe shopped by somebody on the Nasdaq! Hmmmm?
thanks BetNitAll! Great Post. -
I contacted etrade a while ago to discuss this particular scenario. I would place an order at a certain price that I believed should have received a fill but did not. It has happened often. The broker explained to me that etrade works with MM GVRC on this particular stock. He explained that it was GVRC's responsibility to fill the order... and therefore if I had a large order I would need to call an etrade broker and have him alert GVRC of this particular situation. GVRC would then need to contact... let's say Nite/Bamm... or whomever to make sure they fill the order. He elaborated and stated that the MM's are working on several stocks at one time and sometimes we need to let them know we have an order pending. Now I'm not sure what particular MM mytrack uses with PGHI. It varies by broker... and also varies by each stock... elaborated... mytrack could use BAMM as a primary MM for PGHI and then use NITE as a primary MM for FNIX. Finally... the BB market is not as "cut and dry" as lets say the NAZ as far as level II is concerned. I have seen too many situations in which MM "play" with the price... and will gladly collect your shares if you sell... but often make you chase shares up if you desire to buy. My point is... "don't be fooled"... I anticipate that based on our discussions here... the MM will "collect shares" Monday morning at about .028/.029.... but... believe that you may only be able to buy at .03-.032 and up. I almost feel like trading stocks is like one big "chess game." What has helped me out with PGHI is that I am very confident in this company and it's future. It makes my buying decisions a lot easier... and I do not dare sell at these levels... Hope this helps. mach
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Originally posted by newstockpicker:
Mach:I use MyTrack also, but can't find anywhere in the program that lets me pick which MM to use for buying/selling. I have noticed a few times in the past months that I have placed a buy/sell order that was routed to say ... NITE, which was higher or lower than my order, when I could plainly see on level 2 that a different MM was BID/ASK at the level I placed my buy/sell order, but MyTrack sent it to a different MM that was higher/lower than what I was willing to buy/sell. Some orders were eventually filled, but sometimes it took hours, and some were never filled at all, even though the other MM bid/ask was what I placed on my order. Did this post make sense to anyone but me?? I hope I got my point across and if anyone can shed some light on how to fix it I would appreciat it. Thanks.
Walt
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Remember this too……they gave VeeGeez 14 million shares….if the price goes up to around .50 by next year they could buy out several of the small mom and pop operations. At .50 just 10 million shares could grab you a lot of subs from the competition.
If I hade a business with 300 subs and 500 titles and someone came along and offered me 500 grand straight up for everything…I would do it in a heart beat…maybe even do it for 200 grand cash and some stocks .Those subs could easily be integrated into VeeGeez without missing a beat….maybe offer them a month free in order to smooth the transition…that’s to say they keep it under one site….they could also just have several websites but keep all their games in one place. After the infrastructure is set up the rest is EASY. But we gotta get those subs.
I can’t wait to hear from the KC guy. I want to find out what the KY distribution center looks like. If it’s a huge warehouse then things could be looking really good.
Its already been said….but 2 million in capital can really get this company moving.
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I am going to call the investor relations again on Monday…I just barely missed him on Friday…I will find out some more info about the private placement. Maybe I can get some info about how much money they have raised as of yet. Never hurts to ask.Remember this too……they gave VeeGeez 14 million shares….if the price goes up to around .50 by next year they could buy out several of the small mom and pop operations. At .50 just 10 million shares could grab you a lot of subs from the competition.
If I hade a business with 300 subs and 500 titles and someone came along and offered me 500 grand straight up for everything…I would do it in a heart beat…maybe even do it for 200 grand cash and some stocks .Those subs could easily be integrated into VeeGeez without missing a beat….maybe offer them a month free in order to smooth the transition…that’s to say they keep it under one site….they could also just have several websites but keep all their games in one place. After the infrastructure is set up the rest is EASY. But we gotta get those subs.
I can’t wait to hear from the KC guy. I want to find out what the KY distribution center looks like. If it’s a huge warehouse then things could be looking really good.
Its already been said….but 2 million in capital can really get this company moving.
I have started a thread on ATNG, and based on technicals alone it appears to be oversold.
Disclosure: I do own shares
Now Im not saying "buy ATNG"
What I am saying is that it has the potential for a 50-100% gain.
What I recommend is anyone who follows TA watch this stock for a reversal.
Currently its around .015 with strong support at .014 and choppy overhead. A run to .025-.03 is possible on increased volume.
Just want to give people a heads up, cuz I know I hardly look at the other posts anymore, and I know there are many intelligent people here.
I dont want to take up any more space on this thread, so if you have any opinions or DD please post it to the ~~ATNG~~ thread
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btw, the place i'm staying at has wireless internet access so i can dro by occasionally.
ciao.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Adrenalix... Thanks for the follow thorugh on this... Really. You are very savy and your mesages are great. Just wanted to let you know that! mach
the address that pghi is moving to is a home and not a business. seems to me that they're moving the business from rented office space to a garage.
i had a friend who has access to assessor's information confirm that the property is zoned as residential.
now i remember that fleming once sent an email that referred to the relocation as a "family move". it was posted on the msn pghi forum but is down right now. i didn't think much of that comment until now. i'll post a link to it when it goes up.
check out the aerial map (red dot) below: http://terraserver-usa.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&Lon=-86.56073588&Lat=36.73521622&Alon=-86.56073588&Alat=36.73521622&w=1&opt=0&ref=A|1535+Blackjack+Rd,+Franklin,+KY+42134
after more research, i found that there are a lot of flemings in franklin. it's a common name, but may have some connection.
see: http://www.simpsonco.bizland.com/FAMILY_HISTOR_F.HTM
what do you all think?
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This info is good to know but remember it's not where they are located it's how they run it that matters to me.
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Originally posted by adrenalix:
I noticed something that I don't know what to make of it.the address that pghi is moving to is a home and not a business. seems to me that they're moving the business from rented office space to a garage.
i had a friend who has access to assessor's information confirm that the property is zoned as residential.
now i remember that fleming once sent an email that referred to the relocation as a "family move". it was posted on the msn pghi forum but is down right now. i didn't think much of that comment until now. i'll post a link to it when it goes up.
check out the aerial map (red dot) below: [URL=http://terraserver-usa.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&Lon=-86.56073588&Lat=36.73521622&Alon=-86.56073588&Alat=36.73521622&w=1&opt=0&ref=A|1535+Blackjack+Rd,+Franklin,+KY+42134 ]http://terraserver-usa.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&Lon=-86.56073588&Lat=36.73521622&Alon=-86.56073588&Alat=36.73521622&w=1&opt=0&ref=A|1535+Blackjack+Rd,+Franklin,+KY+42134[/UR L]
after more research, i found that there are a lot of flemings in franklin. it's a common name, but may have some connection.
see: http://www.simpsonco.bizland.com/FAMILY_HISTOR_F.HTM
what do you all think?
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Originally posted by adrenalix:
I noticed something that I don't know what to make of it.the address that pghi is moving to is a home and not a business. seems to me that they're moving the business from rented office space to a garage.
i had a friend who has access to assessor's information confirm that the property is zoned as residential.
now i remember that fleming once sent an email that referred to the relocation as a "family move". it was posted on the msn pghi forum but is down right now. i didn't think much of that comment until now. i'll post a link to it when it goes up.
check out the aerial map (red dot) below: [URL=http://terraserver-usa.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&Lon=-86.56073588&Lat=36.73521622&Alon=-86.56073588&Alat=36.73521622&w=1&opt=0&ref=A|1535+Blackjack+Rd,+Franklin,+KY+42134 ]http://terraserver-usa.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&Lon=-86.56073588&Lat=36.73521622&Alon=-86.56073588&Alat=36.73521622&w=1&opt=0&ref=A|1535+Blackjack+Rd,+Franklin,+KY+42134[/UR L]
after more research, i found that there are a lot of flemings in franklin. it's a common name, but may have some connection.
see: http://www.simpsonco.bizland.com/FAMILY_HISTOR_F.HTM
what do you all think?
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Now that is hands down the best DD anyone could ever provide, with the exception of insider information.
Thanks for the effort, looking forward to your findings. Lets hope you don't find a old farmhouse with chickens running around and Mr.Fleming dressed in bluegrass overalls with the proverbial "wheat" hanging from the mouth. -
Experts comment on this please. Beginners like me depend on you guys.
Thanks,
SCS
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
In response to kcbudman:Now that is hands down the best DD anyone could ever provide, with the exception of insider information.
Thanks for the effort, looking forward to your findings. Lets hope you don't find a old farmhouse with chickens running around and Mr.Fleming dressed in bluegrass overalls with the proverbial "wheat" hanging from the mouth. -
I can understand your concern. Take information provided on boards with at grain of salt. It very well could be a residential area or it could be a industrial park, as stated from another post? This is all speculation and based on OLD information from the mid 90's.
The way I look at is, it is not like this is a retail location. And above all, PGHI/VG's is not in the business of manufacturing games, but renting them. How much space is really needed for this, I am making the assumption of not much or at least not necessary to have a huge warehouse. Well maybe not at this time.
These are just my thoughts. I am still looking for a link to Mr.Fleming's resume of past ventures. -Marty
I believe the imporant factors impacting our success will be (1) PRICING AS COMPARED THE COMPETITION (2) DELIVERY TIME (3) INVENTORY AVAILABILITY.
These important factors combined with a STRONG MARKETING PLAN and ENHANCED WEB PRESENCE are extremely important. Ultimately a business plan that implements these factors will lead to an INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SUBSCRIBERS and CUSTOMER RETENTION ultimately INCREASING SHAREHOLDER VALUE.
I honestly do not believe these factors at all include "where inventory is housed" but rather the LOGISTICS OF THAT INVENTORY WITH RESPECT TO INSURING THAT OUR CUSTOMER'S RECEIVE THEIR ORDERS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
*** The Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by adrenalix:
I noticed something that I don't know what to make of it.the address that pghi is moving to is a home and not a business. seems to me that they're moving the business from rented office space to a garage.
i had a friend who has access to assessor's information confirm that the property is zoned as residential.
now i remember that fleming once sent an email that referred to the relocation as a "family move". it was posted on the msn pghi forum but is down right now. i didn't think much of that comment until now. i'll post a link to it when it goes up.
check out the aerial map (red dot) below: [URL=http://terraserver-usa.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&Lon=-86.56073588&Lat=36.73521622&Alon=-86.56073588&Alat=36.73521622&w=1&opt=0&ref=A|1535+Blackjack+Rd,+Franklin,+KY+42134 ]http://terraserver-usa.com/addressimage.aspx?t=1&s=10&Lon=-86.56073588&Lat=36.73521622&Alon=-86.56073588&Alat=36.73521622&w=1&opt=0&ref=A|1535+Blackjack+Rd,+Franklin,+KY+42134[/UR L]
after more research, i found that there are a lot of flemings in franklin. it's a common name, but may have some connection.
see: http://www.simpsonco.bizland.com/FAMILY_HISTOR_F.HTM
what do you all think?
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This would provide you with a good working model of what is neccessary in terms of space to start a new distribution center?
Space in someone's garage is definitely not what I bought into and I am certain that many other investor's here feel the same way.
I would be careful about believing anonymous posts by anyone on a board. I could go out and take a picture of any delapitated home and garage and tell you this is the new center...wouldn't mean it were true. On the contrary I could take a picture of a business site in an industrial park and post it and still would not neccessarily make it the true site. That is why it is called Due Dilligence.
Ask JF, contact the people at VeeGeez, contact a real estate agent in KY.
HOPING FOR THE BEST.
If the new site materializes as a basement or garage in the CEO's New Home in KY...then yes it makes a huge difference and it would be immediately reflected in the stock price. First there would be a huge issue of trust (IMO) and second I don't believe anyone here was "buying into" Mom and Pops basement business operations.
here is to hoping this is not so!
I am not experts like you guys,I read in Peter Leads expert tips, He said " Show me Buisness place and who are working, I will tell tou how company will perform".
In our case I am afraid, I respect Mach, cabbage,.. , everyone on our board their amazing technical details.
Please correct me If I am wrong.
Thanks
SCS
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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
MACH,If the new site materializes as a basement or garage in the CEO's New Home in KY...then yes it makes a huge difference and it would be immediately reflected in the stock price. First there would be a huge issue of trust (IMO) and second I don't believe anyone here was "buying into" Mom and Pops basement business operations.
here is to hoping this is not so!
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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
Anyone know how big the San Diego site is?This would provide you with a good working model of what is neccessary in terms of space to start a new distribution center?
Space in someone's garage is definitely not what I bought into and I am certain that many other investor's here feel the same way.
I would be careful about believing anonymous posts by anyone on a board. I could go out and take a picture of any delapitated home and garage and tell you this is the new center...wouldn't mean it were true. On the contrary I could take a picture of a business site in an industrial park and post it and still would not neccessarily make it the true site. That is why it is called Due Dilligence.
Ask JF, contact the people at VeeGeez, contact a real estate agent in KY.
HOPING FOR THE BEST.
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Originally posted by kcbudman:
I am the one going out there to look at the KY site. I am doing it for me. I have offered to share with the board. Some people here like the fact that I am doing it. You don't have to believe me, since I am anonymous, but I have been a member of this board for several months. Like I said, though, I am doing it for me, because I have great expectations from this company. I do not plan on selling, even if it is a home based business. I believe the techs support a nice move in the near future. I am doing this DD for possible long term hold, that is all.
the question i was asking myself was why kentucky?
was this move personal in nature? for fleming to return to family?
was it really to add a new distribution center?
does anyone think that their relocation happened too quickly after PGHI purchased VG?
is it possible that Fleming had planned on moving there anyway?
i don't know.
First and foremost as a shareholder I respect and support the decisions that this company is making. At this particular stage in the progress of the company... it does make sense to have both an East & West Coast Distribution Center. The timeframe in which customers receive and are able to return their rentals will have a dramatic impact on their satisfaction and desire to continue their membership with Veegeez. Knowing that we are about to launch a new site and incoporate DVD rentals... The move indicates that we have a President that is looking to move forward agressively. It would not make sense at all to launch a new site and focus on growing your subscriber base to find out that your new subscribers are disappointed in the timeliness of their orders. Indeed... a company would desire to "have all it's ducks in a row." With respect to whether he has family in Kentucky.. I do not care to speculate... but will add that if in fact I were the President and understood that an East Coast Distibution Center was necessary... I might indeed consider at least trying to locate such a center in an are that I might have family and friends.
mach
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Originally posted by adrenalix:
yep. i'm not sure what to make of this. i do hope that things have changed since that aerial map was taken. we'll see what kc finds out.the question i was asking myself was why kentucky?
was this move personal in nature? for fleming to return to family?
was it really to add a new distribution center?
does anyone think that their relocation happened too quickly after PGHI purchased VG?
is it possible that Fleming had planned on moving there anyway?
i don't know.
I just wanted to finally take a minute to say hello and thanks for all your work that you share with this board. I'm fairly new to investing and am on a steep learning curve. Your posts along with a few others here (mav, cabbage, uncle milty) I find extremely informative and valuable. It's great how much DD gets shared on this board without any nonsense like on some others! I started buying PGHI about 6 weeks ago and have been adding to my position when I can. As has been stated before, the upside potential of this company far outweighs the downside IMO and it's getting more exciting following it each week.
Here's something interesting I found the other day: According to a recent 2003 survey by Forbes Magazine, when it comes to cost of doing business, Lexington, KY (which is only 3hrs from Franklin, KY) was rated as the 4th best place in the country to locate a business.
I hope to pick up my last block of shares Monday at this current level.
Thanks and GLTA!
J160E
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Originally posted by j160e:
MACH...I just wanted to finally take a minute to say hello and thanks for all your work that you share with this board. I'm fairly new to investing and am on a steep learning curve. Your posts along with a few others here (mav, cabbage, uncle milty) I find extremely informative and valuable. It's great how much DD gets shared on this board without any nonsense like on some others! I started buying PGHI about 6 weeks ago and have been adding to my position when I can. As has been stated before, the upside potential of this company far outweighs the downside IMO and it's getting more exciting following it each week.
Here's something interesting I found the other day: According to a recent 2003 survey by Forbes Magazine, when it comes to cost of doing business, Lexington, KY (which is only 3hrs from Franklin, KY) was rated as the 4th best place in the country to locate a business.
I hope to pick up my last block of shares Monday at this current level.
Thanks and GLTA!
J160E
KEEP YOUR OVERHEAD UNDER CONTROL!
If Fleming has the goods in his basement who gives a SH...T when your shares are going to be worth $1.Would you rather see a the company in a nice tower like Enron and your shares in the toilet because the expenses are out of control.I applaud Fleming if he is the type of person that does not care about being in a plush office to get this company off the ground.If some of you have ever been involved in builing a business from the ground floor then you can appreciate what I am referring to for those of you that have not, understand that the main concern of a new MAIL ORDER business is the PEOPLE, MERCHANDISE,MARKETING,and last but not least the SERVICE.If Fleming can flawlessly impliment these factors I do not care if he is shipping out of a toilet.
You can find a ton of nice locations but that WILL NOT make a MAIL ORDER business function properly nor will a BANK loan you money because you have a nice location.You receive money from a bank because they believe in the people that are running the business , and the product or business plan they present.Location is a priority in the retail business or when purchasing a home but NOT IN THE MAIL ORDER BUSINESS.........
As a shareholder of PGHI I do not care about Kentucky pictures the stock will not get better or worse from the pictures , the stock will get better or worse from the reaction of the stockholders...guess what..Fleming will make this work with or without you I choose to be included.There is a very valid reason for the name change that I posted to MACH a few weeks ago and I stand by it.Please understand this is just my opinion.
There is one thing that does diturb me.I have been a member of this forum for a couple of weeks and have read posts from some brilliant and well spoken people.There have been only positive vibes until last week some beauty named SUNNY came along.Now I decided at the time not to answer the SUNNY posts so there would not be any attention given to that person.Now I see some more of the same.Is it me or is there a pattern starting cause the stock is about to take off.To Mach , Mav , Milty and a host of others thank you for all your help even though we have never it is great to know there are people holding up the fort!
TRSTURGUT-18
Wow... this is a very well said statement. You have said everything that I was thinking... to the tee! I think many of the "newbies" here have not taken the time to reread many of the "brilliant" post and due diligence that has been done with respect to PGHI. Many of the questions they ask hae been discussed thouroughly... and yes I have enjoyed our civilized discussions. I will not elaborate any further other than... to encourage others to read your post a few times and absorb it and to further encourage "newbies" that are "truly" interested in learning more about their investment or potential investment to take the time to read through this entire thread. It will enlighten and answer many of the questiOns that you may have. Thanks again. mach
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
After 30 extremely healthy years in the marketing,operations,and merchandising end
of mailorder and retail ground floor operations I have learned a few things.KEEP YOUR OVERHEAD UNDER CONTROL!
If Fleming has the goods in his basement who gives a SH...T when your shares are going to be worth $1.Would you rather see a the company in a nice tower like Enron and your shares in the toilet because the expenses are out of control.I applaud Fleming if he is the type of person that does not care about being in a plush office to get this company off the ground.If some of you have ever been involved in builing a business from the ground floor then you can appreciate what I am referring to for those of you that have not, understand that the main concern of a new MAIL ORDER business is the PEOPLE, MERCHANDISE,MARKETING,and last but not least the SERVICE.If Fleming can flawlessly impliment these factors I do not care if he is shipping out of a toilet.
You can find a ton of nice locations but that WILL NOT make a MAIL ORDER business function properly nor will a BANK loan you money because you have a nice location.You receive money from a bank because they believe in the people that are running the business , and the product or business plan they present.Location is a priority in the retail business or when purchasing a home but NOT IN THE MAIL ORDER BUSINESS.........
As a shareholder of PGHI I do not care about Kentucky pictures the stock will not get better or worse from the pictures , the stock will get better or worse from the reaction of the stockholders...guess what..Fleming will make this work with or without you I choose to be included.There is a very valid reason for the name change that I posted to MACH a few weeks ago and I stand by it.Please understand this is just my opinion.
There is one thing that does diturb me.I have been a member of this forum for a couple of weeks and have read posts from some brilliant and well spoken people.There have been only positive vibes until last week some beauty named SUNNY came along.Now I decided at the time not to answer the SUNNY posts so there would not be any attention given to that person.Now I see some more of the same.Is it me or is there a pattern starting cause the stock is about to take off.To Mach , Mav , Milty and a host of others thank you for all your help even though we have never it is great to know there are people holding up the fort!TRSTURGUT-18
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GAMING MARKET GROWTH
A new study shows that 70% of U.S. homes will have video game consoles by 2005 (close to the percentage of homes with VCRs), that 60% of Americans play computer/video games on a regular basis, that the gaming industry put 220,000 people to work last year, and that those jobs generated US$9 billion in wages and tax revenues.
PGHI is a public company and through the sale of stock can raise funds needed to develop the infrastructure for the business and purchase more inventory.
Being the first publicly traded company in the online game rentals business can get PGHI some good attention and hype.
What do breakout companies have in common? A CULT-like following. Seriously. Look at Apple Computer owners, TIVO customers and Netflix subscribers. They swear by those products and services and love them. This thread alone indicates how dedicated many shareholders are to the company.
Many members have already began independent marketing campaigns to help grow the customer base. How often do you see this with a privately held company?
GROWING THE BUSINESS MODEL TO INCLUDE DVD’S
The expectation for the launch of online DVD rentals combined with it’s current Online Gaming Rental business is extremely significant. After all Netflix currently does not offer or market Online Video Game Rentals! It will be much more convenient for America to have an subscription service that caters to families that desire both a DVD and Video Game Rental Service! Will this increase the number of people that subsribe to their service? Yes! Will this increase shareholder value? Absolutely!
The success of many company is more often than not the direct result of the success of it’s marketing campaign. How successful will it be? Why don’t we ask some of Venture Direct Worldwide’s current clients which include: Adobe, Microsoft, Citigroup, AT&T, Intel, Xerox, Fortune Magazine and many other successful companies. Do I need to elaborate?
CHRISTMAS RALLY?
Historically, the days before and after Christmas and Thanksgiving holidays have produced above average returns with strong frequency numbers for the markets Both the frequency and gains for these two particular trading days have been far superior to market averages. (Time in Time Out, Thackray & Lindsay.). Although I had not applied this trading strategy to bb stocks in the past, I was pleasantly surprised to see that PGHI traded well in the “days” preceding Thanksgiving with a trend that produced substantial gains in the following days. Can we assume that a similar pattern will happen into the Christmas Holiday. Never underestimate the power of the market?
Next, I called the Franklin City police dept. and asked them a question about a road for my travels. I then asked them about 1535 Blackjack Rd. and what kind of area it is. Part residential, part industrial was the answer. The girl on the phone couldn't picture the actual address, but she said it was close enough to be either.
While I am setting myself up to be kicked down, I might as well add that I think the reason PGHI didnt go up when they announced the KY move, is because of the lack of "glamour" made in the announcement. I think that when a company says they are moving from SanDiego (nice, rich, tourist area) to Franklin???Kentucky???, it could lack enough luster to draw attention. I understand the move, and that it is an additional location to SD,CA, and think it is a very smart move. You could probably buy 10 KY warehouses for 1 in SD. Labor, COLA, etc. is all cheaper and smarter. And they are only 45 minutes from Nashville Airport and Postal Distribution Center. I wonder if it would have made a difference if the announcement would have read "moving near Nashville, TN".
Anyway, TRSTURGUT, I am not trying to be like SUNNY or any idiot like that. My intentions were good. I hope we all get rich, and thanks for all the hard work you all do....especially with the banners, it is great.!!!!!
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
After 30 extremely healthy years in the marketing,operations,and merchandising end
of mailorder and retail ground floor operations I have learned a few things.KEEP YOUR OVERHEAD UNDER CONTROL!
If Fleming has the goods in his basement who gives a SH...T when your shares are going to be worth $1.Would you rather see a the company in a nice tower like Enron and your shares in the toilet because the expenses are out of control.I applaud Fleming if he is the type of person that does not care about being in a plush office to get this company off the ground.If some of you have ever been involved in builing a business from the ground floor then you can appreciate what I am referring to for those of you that have not, understand that the main concern of a new MAIL ORDER business is the PEOPLE, MERCHANDISE,MARKETING,and last but not least the SERVICE.If Fleming can flawlessly impliment these factors I do not care if he is shipping out of a toilet.
You can find a ton of nice locations but that WILL NOT make a MAIL ORDER business function properly nor will a BANK loan you money because you have a nice location.You receive money from a bank because they believe in the people that are running the business , and the product or business plan they present.Location is a priority in the retail business or when purchasing a home but NOT IN THE MAIL ORDER BUSINESS.........
As a shareholder of PGHI I do not care about Kentucky pictures the stock will not get better or worse from the pictures , the stock will get better or worse from the reaction of the stockholders...guess what..Fleming will make this work with or without you I choose to be included.There is a very valid reason for the name change that I posted to MACH a few weeks ago and I stand by it.Please understand this is just my opinion.
There is one thing that does diturb me.I have been a member of this forum for a couple of weeks and have read posts from some brilliant and well spoken people.There have been only positive vibes until last week some beauty named SUNNY came along.Now I decided at the time not to answer the SUNNY posts so there would not be any attention given to that person.Now I see some more of the same.Is it me or is there a pattern starting cause the stock is about to take off.To Mach , Mav , Milty and a host of others thank you for all your help even though we have never it is great to know there are people holding up the fort!TRSTURGUT-18
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AS FOR THE LOCATION OF THE NEW WAREHOUSE-
The mass hysteria which unfolded from a 1998 satelite image is ridiculous. People here start to panic without doing and F-ing DD. You cant believe everything you read OR see. The satelite image is a QUARTER MILE OFF!!!
That little stretch of houses is PINE ROAD
Blackjack is the road perpindicular
Here is the satelite picture, the blue dot is the true location, address checked on maporama.com
Here is the maporama pic
Hope I calmed some fears
PS, the area that the address is near looks like a mini-mall/industrial park type area
I think the news of the new distribuition center was priced in several days before the release. After all... everybody "their mama"... new exactly what the news was and when it was to be released. I did at least. I don't think TRS was pointing fingers here... I think he as well as I would like to see our intelligent civil conversations continue here. Good luck to you... You are also welcome to email me at machtabow@yahoo.com I enjoy private chat with individuals that are dedicated to doing thourough research. mach
LOL! I should probably read my own dang words!! Thanks Mach.
"Written words do not express the emotion by the writer, unless they are perceived by the reader the same way."
Also, the picture from cabbage shows what I think is a row of house trailers on a side street. That is what she meant by residential. The fact that the map shows this confirms it. She said there were newer commercial buildings being built...I will email you. Thanks again.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
KC,I think the news of the new distribuition center was priced in several days before the release. After all... everybody "their mama"... new exactly what the news was and when it was to be released. I did at least. I don't think TRS was pointing fingers here... I think he as well as I would like to see our intelligent civil conversations continue here. Good luck to you... You are also welcome to email me at machtabow@yahoo.com I enjoy private chat with individuals that are dedicated to doing thourough research. mach
I have no reservations concerning the need for such a site, or even the important implications of a "Bi-coastal" distribution center for the company. It absolutely represents a huge step forward in the companies development. I would however argue that it would be a much larger development if it were a business site and not a basement or garage. You are entitled to believe what you wish.
I also see that we are in very good agreement on the importance of launching the new website interface. This site is the gateway for business operations and the future of the company lies in getting the site up and operating in a timely manner. IMO it should have been up before the Christmas holiday.
As to my contributions to this board and other boards, I am the individual who put together the reveiw of PRs that was posted by Mach. In this post it was stated that it was from another board and a non-member on this board.
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
After 30 extremely healthy years in the marketing,operations,and merchandising end
of mailorder and retail ground floor operations I have learned a few things.KEEP YOUR OVERHEAD UNDER CONTROL!
If Fleming has the goods in his basement who gives a SH...T when your shares are going to be worth $1.Would you rather see a the company in a nice tower like Enron and your shares in the toilet because the expenses are out of control.I applaud Fleming if he is the type of person that does not care about being in a plush office to get this company off the ground.If some of you have ever been involved in builing a business from the ground floor then you can appreciate what I am referring to for those of you that have not, understand that the main concern of a new MAIL ORDER business is the PEOPLE, MERCHANDISE,MARKETING,and last but not least the SERVICE.If Fleming can flawlessly impliment these factors I do not care if he is shipping out of a toilet.
You can find a ton of nice locations but that WILL NOT make a MAIL ORDER business function properly nor will a BANK loan you money because you have a nice location.You receive money from a bank because they believe in the people that are running the business , and the product or business plan they present.Location is a priority in the retail business or when purchasing a home but NOT IN THE MAIL ORDER BUSINESS.........
As a shareholder of PGHI I do not care about Kentucky pictures the stock will not get better or worse from the pictures , the stock will get better or worse from the reaction of the stockholders...guess what..Fleming will make this work with or without you I choose to be included.There is a very valid reason for the name change that I posted to MACH a few weeks ago and I stand by it.Please understand this is just my opinion.
There is one thing that does diturb me.I have been a member of this forum for a couple of weeks and have read posts from some brilliant and well spoken people.There have been only positive vibes until last week some beauty named SUNNY came along.Now I decided at the time not to answer the SUNNY posts so there would not be any attention given to that person.Now I see some more of the same.Is it me or is there a pattern starting cause the stock is about to take off.To Mach , Mav , Milty and a host of others thank you for all your help even though we have never it is great to know there are people holding up the fort!TRSTURGUT-18
I agree with you 110% on the lack of glamour in the PR announcing the addition of an East Coast Distribution center. It did not sell the importance of this event nearly well enough and even the comment about not closing the San Diego distribution center seemed to me to be loosely tacked onto the PR.
I sincerely hope that you do find an abandoned wal-mart store, even something much smaller would belay any concerns that I have.
I do think we should encourage open and honest evaluations of the situation, and my comments cautioning against believing anything posted anomynously were not directed specificall at you. I hope they were not interpreted as bashing your viewpoints, because that was not my intention.
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Originally posted by kcbudman:
OK, let me first say I am not trying to bicker. Written words do not express the emotion by the writer, unless they are perceived by the reader the same way. I absolutely want this stock to SOAR! I have a lot of money in it, and have spent a lot of time researching what I can. I do not have the skills many of you here have, but I still wanted to contribute. I thought by driving 2 hours each way off my course to spend the holidays with my family to do DD for myself and others was a good thing. I stated earlier, I am not bailing on this stock no matter what I see in KY. I just want to assess the potential for $1 and up for a long term investment. In other words, after this stock goes up 500%, do I sell or stay since it could have the potential to go 5000%. When I posted the fact that I wanted to drive to Franklin, I only envisioned positive things. I have never thought negative things that would enable me to bash anyone or anything. I realize now that you and a few others do not care about pictures or what JF has in KY. I do, but it is because I care (not saying any of you dont). This could turn into a gold mine, and has me very excited. Addictive is a good word for it. I realize that JF is not building or moving into Microsoft HQ. Heck, I would be thrilled if it was an old Wal-Mart building, because that means he has real tangible assets. But if it is his cousins basement, so be it. I am still interested in this company and retaining my shares.Next, I called the Franklin City police dept. and asked them a question about a road for my travels. I then asked them about 1535 Blackjack Rd. and what kind of area it is. Part residential, part industrial was the answer. The girl on the phone couldn't picture the actual address, but she said it was close enough to be either.
While I am setting myself up to be kicked down, I might as well add that I think the reason PGHI didnt go up when they announced the KY move, is because of the lack of "glamour" made in the announcement. I think that when a company says they are moving from SanDiego (nice, rich, tourist area) to Franklin???Kentucky???, it could lack enough luster to draw attention. I understand the move, and that it is an additional location to SD,CA, and think it is a very smart move. You could probably buy 10 KY warehouses for 1 in SD. Labor, COLA, etc. is all cheaper and smarter. And they are only 45 minutes from Nashville Airport and Postal Distribution Center. I wonder if it would have made a difference if the announcement would have read "moving near Nashville, TN".
Anyway, TRSTURGUT, I am not trying to be like SUNNY or any idiot like that. My intentions were good. I hope we all get rich, and thanks for all the hard work you all do....especially with the banners, it is great.!!!!!
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Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
If you are trying to equate my posts with any of dubious nature, you could not be further from the truth. I sincerely believe that the location of the said "New East-Coast" Distribution center is extremely pertinent to the future of this stock. If you do not share that opinion then so be it. There seems to be several others here that are equally concerned.I have no reservations concerning the need for such a site, or even the important implications of a "Bi-coastal" distribution center for the company. It absolutely represents a huge step forward in the companies development. I would however argue that it would be a much larger development if it were a business site and not a basement or garage. You are entitled to believe what you wish.
I also see that we are in very good agreement on the importance of launching the new website interface. This site is the gateway for business operations and the future of the company lies in getting the site up and operating in a timely manner. IMO it should have been up before the Christmas holiday.
As to my contributions to this board and other boards, I am the individual who put together the reveiw of PRs that was posted by Mach. In this post it was stated that it was from another board and a non-member on this board.
Thank you for the arial photo/map. And yes it does calm my concerns. I am also happy to see that we agree that you cannot believe everything that you read.
With all of the PR on video game stats, who's buying/playing, the climb in annual sales, being the only traded company that rents vids, etc., I don't see how this can lose. New website, namechange, professional marketing firm on board... ugh this WILL take off... and time is on our side. Patience can be the enemy... but I think I can hang on.
machThere are currently 23 Netflix distribution centers in the USA; they are located in the following metroplitan areas:
Atlanta, GA
Boston, MA
Chicago, IL
Cleveland, OH
Dallas, TX
Denver, CO
Detroit, MI
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Greensboro, NC
Houston, TX
Los Angeles, CA
Minneapolis, MN
Newark, NJ
New York, NY
Philadelphia, PA
Phoenix, AZ
Portland, OR
Rochester, NY
Saint Louis, MO
San Jose, CA
Seattle, WA
Stamford, CT
Washington, DC
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AS FOR THE LOCATION OF THE NEW WAREHOUSE-
The mass hysteria which unfolded from a 1998 satelite image is ridiculous. People here start to panic without doing and F-ing DD. You cant believe everything you read OR see. The satelite image is a QUARTER MILE OFF!!!
That little stretch of houses is PINE ROAD
Blackjack is the road perpindicular
Here is the satelite picture, the blue dot is the true location, address checked on maporama.com
Here is the maporama pic
Hope I calmed some fears
PS, the area that the address is near looks like a mini-mall/industrial park type area
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
New Banner just given to me so I can add it to my websites.
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***** EXCELLENT DD **** PB WIZARD
Originally posted by pbwizard:
New website update. They have plan as long as the site testing works it will up within couple of weeks. VeeGeeZ.com will not be changing its name only Points Group Holding is changing to Gameznflix. VeeGeeZ.com will contenue to be VeeGeeZ. I just received an eMail from VeeGeeZ in reply of my Questions about the above.
"After reviewing the company's marketing plans, we believe Point Group Holdings is poised for strong growth," said Thomas N. Mahoney, Managing Director of Equitilink. "Due to the recent mention in The Wall Street Journal about September's record volume in OTC Bulletin Board stocks (October 10, 2003), we are anticipating even greater interest in our micro-cap clients. We are prepared to help communicate this client's story to potential investors of all skill levels."
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
What does a netflix distribution center look like? If anyone happens to live in these particular cities... maybe you would't mind taking a look from the inside. Certainly would be a great discussion on the board... You never know... maybe we can get some inside info that we can use to help grow our company....There are currently 23 Netflix distribution centers in the USA; they are located in the following metroplitan areas:
Atlanta, GA
Boston, MA
Chicago, IL
Cleveland, OH
Dallas, TX
Denver, CO
Detroit, MI
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Greensboro, NC
Houston, TX
Los Angeles, CA
Minneapolis, MN
Newark, NJ
New York, NY
Philadelphia, PA
Phoenix, AZ
Portland, OR
Rochester, NY
Saint Louis, MO
San Jose, CA
Seattle, WA
Stamford, CT
Washington, DC
Netflix, the largest online DVD rental service, will celebrate the opening of a regional distribution centers in Tacoma -- and its recent IPO -- in two weeks. CEO and Co-founder Reed Hastings will appear at this newest distribution facility in Rain City Plaza, a shopping center at 3802 South Warner, Suite A, just off Union St.
... call this a "Seattle area" location. It happens to be just across the street from a major distribution center for the U.S. Postal Service and within three blocks of the Pine Street postal operations.
Good luck in your detective work Betn... Looking forward to your detective work. PS... if it helps you might say you would like to apply for a job... maybe then they will walk you inside and give you a better look... GO 007! mach
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I am in Seattle....I would be happy to stop by the NetFlix place tonight after work. Someone post the address why I am getting ready for work
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MACH
Please understand that I am in no way offended by your posts nor should either of you perceive my post in that fashion.If you do please allow me to apologize.You are doing your homework and sharing it with the board and I thank you for that.My statements were made as a preventive measure.There are many patient shareholders that do not get flustered and then there are shareholders whose nerves shatter at even the thought of some news that will bring their stock tumbling down.I direct my statements at the latter so it will ease their nerves.Remember some people bail at the slightest change and we need to keep those people on an even playing field.What some of us perceive as great information others perceive as though their world just came to an end.Yes I will be one of the first to buy the stock when people decide to sell but at this stage of the game we do not need people selling that will not get us over the .05 barrier.I truely believe that there are many shareholders that do not realize what they have invested in afterall how many keepers are there in the penny game?THIS IS NOT JUST ANOTHER STOCK.
How many stocks do we all own that are waiting for FDA approval , how many shells do we own that are waiting on mergers agreements for months ,how many stocks do we own that are waiting for capital investments , and finally how many stocks
do we own that have gone south.I have owned a stock called Brightpoint sym..CELL.
It is a cellphone distributor who's shares were at .10 about 2 years ago ...after 1 year it had reached $40.then TWO 3 for 2 splits..it is now in the high teens.PGHI looks to me as having the same path.The location not one to be desired...their bottom line big money.I know you guys understand that but think of those that get frightened and can bring a stock down.I only post from time to time but I have a passion for this stock but I am not blinded either and I like the fact that we have something to cheer about.In the end I hope we can all celebrate our goob fortune..I will supply the Beers and Lobster....
TRSTURGUT-18
Cabbage, I take it this is an old image?
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The New VG's site will be released before the end of 2003. This is my prediction. - Marty
We've got SATELLITE IMAGES!
We've got people going INSIDE NETFLIX!
We've got people RESEARCHING ALL THE COMPETITION!
We've got people TRAVELING HUNDREDS OF MILES to investigate the Kentucky distribution center!
We've got people MARKETING VEEGEEZ!
We've got people TALKING TO THE WEB COMPANY!
We've got NON-STOP DD HERE!
We've got INDUSTRY EXPERTS!
We've got MM EXPERT ANALYSIS!
We've got TECH EXPERTS!
We've got WEB DESIGNERS!
We've got BUSINESS PROS!
We've got INVESTORS FROM EVERY PART OF THE GLOBE!
We've got the only PUBLICLY TRADED VIDEO RENTAL COMPANY!
We've got one of THE HOTTEST INDUSTRIES IN THE WORLD!
We've got some of the STRONGEST SHAREHOLDERS IN THE MARKET!
**** WE'VE GOT A MAJOR VEEGEEZ/GAMEZNFLIX EPIDEMIC HERE! MACH ****
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I wish everyone in our board become rich.
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
KC..GONNAPLODE,Please understand that I am in no way offended by your posts nor should either of you perceive my post in that fashion.If you do please allow me to apologize.You are doing your homework and sharing it with the board and I thank you for that.My statements were made as a preventive measure.There are many patient shareholders that do not get flustered and then there are shareholders whose nerves shatter at even the thought of some news that will bring their stock tumbling down.I direct my statements at the latter so it will ease their nerves.Remember some people bail at the slightest change and we need to keep those people on an even playing field.What some of us perceive as great information others perceive as though their world just came to an end.Yes I will be one of the first to buy the stock when people decide to sell but at this stage of the game we do not need people selling that will not get us over the .05 barrier.I truely believe that there are many shareholders that do not realize what they have invested in afterall how many keepers are there in the penny game?THIS IS NOT JUST ANOTHER STOCK.
How many stocks do we all own that are waiting for FDA approval , how many shells do we own that are waiting on mergers agreements for months ,how many stocks do we own that are waiting for capital investments , and finally how many stocks
do we own that have gone south.I have owned a stock called Brightpoint sym..CELL.
It is a cellphone distributor who's shares were at .10 about 2 years ago ...after 1 year it had reached $40.then TWO 3 for 2 splits..it is now in the high teens.PGHI looks to me as having the same path.The location not one to be desired...their bottom line big money.I know you guys understand that but think of those that get frightened and can bring a stock down.I only post from time to time but I have a passion for this stock but I am not blinded either and I like the fact that we have something to cheer about.In the end I hope we can all celebrate our goob fortune..I will supply the Beers and Lobster....TRSTURGUT-18
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Wow!We've got SATELLITE IMAGES!
We've got people going INSIDE NETFLIX!
We've got people RESEARCHING ALL THE COMPETITION!We've got people TRAVELING HUNDREDS OF MILES to investigate the Kentucky distribution center!
We've got people MARKETING VEEGEEZ!
We've got people TALKING TO THE WEB COMPANY!
We've got NON-STOP DD HERE!
We've got INDUSTRY EXPERTS!We've got MM EXPERT ANALYSIS!
We've got TECH EXPERTS!
We've got WEB DESIGNERS!We've got BUSINESS PROS!
We've got INVESTORS FROM EVERY PART OF THE GLOBE!
We've got the only PUBLICLY TRADED VIDEO RENTAL COMPANY!
We've got one of THE HOTTEST INDUSTRIES IN THE WORLD!We've got some of the STRONGEST SHAREHOLDERS IN THE MARKET!
**** WE'VE GOT A MAJOR VEEGEEZ/GAMEZNFLIX EPIDEMIC HERE! MACH ****
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Here is one that I believe has not been addressed yet.Why does PGHI with its various holdings seem to be extending all their energies toward VEEGEEZ.There is never mention of any other holdings.Do you smell something HUGE brewing?I would have been elated if the new site was up for the holidays but to put a positive spin on things I see Fleming as saying if it is not 100% it does not go up.Better to wait then not be prepared.VEEGEEZ cannot be as good as NETFLIX they have to be one step ahead to take market share so all in all it was in my opinion a calculated business decision.Just my thoughts.
TRSTURGUT-18
Great work guys
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
PS... DO WE HAVE ANY COMPUTER HACKERS HERE?
*** Future's so bright! ***
mach
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH,Here is one that I believe has not been addressed yet.Why does PGHI with its various holdings seem to be extending all their energies toward VEEGEEZ.There is never mention of any other holdings.Do you smell something HUGE brewing?I would have been elated if the new site was up for the holidays but to put a positive spin on things I see Fleming as saying if it is not 100% it does not go up.Better to wait then not be prepared.VEEGEEZ cannot be as good as NETFLIX they have to be one step ahead to take market share so all in all it was in my opinion a calculated business decision.Just my thoughts.
TRSTURGUT-18
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Wow!We've got SATELLITE IMAGES!
We've got people going INSIDE NETFLIX!
We've got people RESEARCHING ALL THE COMPETITION!We've got people TRAVELING HUNDREDS OF MILES to investigate the Kentucky distribution center!
We've got people MARKETING VEEGEEZ!
We've got people TALKING TO THE WEB COMPANY!
We've got NON-STOP DD HERE!
We've got INDUSTRY EXPERTS!We've got MM EXPERT ANALYSIS!
We've got TECH EXPERTS!
We've got WEB DESIGNERS!We've got BUSINESS PROS!
We've got INVESTORS FROM EVERY PART OF THE GLOBE!
We've got the only PUBLICLY TRADED VIDEO RENTAL COMPANY!
We've got one of THE HOTTEST INDUSTRIES IN THE WORLD!We've got some of the STRONGEST SHAREHOLDERS IN THE MARKET!
**** WE'VE GOT A MAJOR VEEGEEZ/GAMEZNFLIX EPIDEMIC HERE! MACH ****
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GO 007! MACH
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Originally posted by Moose:
Haha...computer hackers, 007, photos of distribution center...this is some crazy DD we got going on here, but I like
Thanks
Ron B.
05/20/2002 - Updated 02:13 PM ET
Video game rentals on the increase
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) — U.S. video game rental revenue rose more than 9% in the first quarter, with Sony's PlayStation platform accounting for almost two-thirds of the market, data released Monday showed.
The Video Software Dealers Association, which also tracks rental data for VHS cassettes and DVDs, said game rental revenue increased to $201 million from $184 million a year earlier and $161.4 million in the prior quarter.
The top platform in the first quarter was Sony's 1-1/2-year-old PlayStation 2, with 42.5% of the market, including all of the top-10 rental titles. Sony's older PlayStation One, which came out in late 1995, was second, with a 21.6% share.
Third was Nintendo's six-year-old Nintendo 64 system, at 18%.
Microsoft's Xbox came in with 9% of the market, followed by Nintendo's GameCube, at 4.5%. Both systems came out last November.
The top three rental titles in the quarter — Grand Theft Auto 3, Max Payne and State of Emergency — all belonged to Take-Two Interactive Software.
The company was tied for most titles on the list with Electronic Arts, which charted at No. 4 with Agent Under Fire, No. 5 with Final Fantasy X, and No. 9 with Simpsons Road Rage.
Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony have all cut the prices of their consoles in the last week — Microsoft and Sony to $199 and Nintendo to $149 — which is expected to drive up sales and, as a result, software rentals.
Blockbuster, the nation's largest video retailer, announced a major expansion of its game rental program last week, guaranteeing it will have hundreds of titles available in virtually all of its stores nationwide.
Sales of video game hardware and software topped $9 billion in 2001. This year is expected to easily set a new record, as the industry passes through the early part of what analysts have said will be a multiyear growth cycle driven by the new consoles and their games.
The Video Software Dealers Association, which also tracks rental data for VHS cassettes and DVDs, said game rental revenue increased to $201 million from $184 million a year earlier and $161.4 million in the prior quarter.
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Originally posted by Mav:
The report bellow it's from last year, but it's a reflection of what we see today and what we will see in the future regarding the growth of the video game industry and also of it's rental activities. As I said before in some posts, video game industry is growthing very fast and companies related to this industry that are well managed should do well.05/20/2002 - Updated 02:13 PM ET
Video game rentals on the increaseLOS ANGELES (Reuters) — U.S. video game rental revenue rose more than 9% in the first quarter, with Sony's PlayStation platform accounting for almost two-thirds of the market, data released Monday showed.
The Video Software Dealers Association, which also tracks rental data for VHS cassettes and DVDs, said game rental revenue increased to $201 million from $184 million a year earlier and $161.4 million in the prior quarter.
The top platform in the first quarter was Sony's 1-1/2-year-old PlayStation 2, with 42.5% of the market, including all of the top-10 rental titles. Sony's older PlayStation One, which came out in late 1995, was second, with a 21.6% share.
Third was Nintendo's six-year-old Nintendo 64 system, at 18%.
Microsoft's Xbox came in with 9% of the market, followed by Nintendo's GameCube, at 4.5%. Both systems came out last November.
The top three rental titles in the quarter — Grand Theft Auto 3, Max Payne and State of Emergency — all belonged to Take-Two Interactive Software.
The company was tied for most titles on the list with Electronic Arts, which charted at No. 4 with Agent Under Fire, No. 5 with Final Fantasy X, and No. 9 with Simpsons Road Rage.
Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony have all cut the prices of their consoles in the last week — Microsoft and Sony to $199 and Nintendo to $149 — which is expected to drive up sales and, as a result, software rentals.
Blockbuster, the nation's largest video retailer, announced a major expansion of its game rental program last week, guaranteeing it will have hundreds of titles available in virtually all of its stores nationwide.
Sales of video game hardware and software topped $9 billion in 2001. This year is expected to easily set a new record, as the industry passes through the early part of what analysts have said will be a multiyear growth cycle driven by the new consoles and their games.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Mav... Great DD as usual! I'm going to look and see if there is more information on the Video Software dealers Association and the statistics that they track... Should be interesting DD. How's your weekend? The next week should be pretty exciting in the market! Looking forward to the day befoe Christmas. By the way... is it a 1/2 day tradig session? machThe Video Software Dealers Association, which also tracks rental data for VHS cassettes and DVDs, said game rental revenue increased to $201 million from $184 million a year earlier and $161.4 million in the prior quarter.
The key is that they are near a mail center which means they can get those games in and out faster to the east coast subscibers. I'd imagine I could fit thousands of video games in my basement, garage, attic....or wherever. As long as they are being mailed out immediately upon order....subscribers will be happy....profit will accumulate....the company will grow.
PSU
By the way Ron.....were you and your friends able to secure the shares you were after Friday?
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Originally posted by Magoo:
If this helps to calm some nerves/ I am part owner in three companies in Washington State. If you were to look at a map of the areas which they are in they would look much like the one you are so concerned about. They are in a farm and industrial areas in Whatcom County which is right against the Canadian border. My companies did net $85 million last year.Thanks
Ron B.
I did try to pick up some more share of PGHI on friday. I did snag just under 50,000 shares which added to a strong position. I will be at it again on Monday trying to buy at around .03 for another 300,000
I have been dealing in the bigger markets since 1975 so this is a nice distraction and nice to be involved in something from the ground floor.
I do have other tradeing friends which are going to be buying in once we do see the new web site and they are up and running in their new distribution center. I am going to be going to Kentucky myself before we dump a lot of money into this and talk with the CEO myself. That will be early January.
At that point I will be able to tell all that I find. My corporate lawer will be going with me.
Everything they have done so far makes sence as starting a company like this takes time to set it up right.
If all the ducks are in line this could be an excellent oppertunity for everyone who is in this.
Thanks to all for time spent on their reasearch
Remove the spaces (anti spam attempt)!
PSU
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Originally posted by Magoo:
MachI did try to pick up some more share of PGHI on friday. I did snag just under 50,000 shares which added to a strong position. I will be at it again on Monday trying to buy at around .03 for another 300,000
I have been dealing in the bigger markets since 1975 so this is a nice distraction and nice to be involved in something from the ground floor.
I do have other tradeing friends which are going to be buying in once we do see the new web site and they are up and running in their new distribution center. I am going to be going to Kentucky myself before we dump a lot of money into this and talk with the CEO myself. That will be early January.
At that point I will be able to tell all that I find. My corporate lawer will be going with me.
Everything they have done so far makes sence as starting a company like this takes time to set it up right.
If all the ducks are in line this could be an excellent oppertunity for everyone who is in this.
Thanks to all for time spent on their reasearch
The U.S. stock market will shut early at 1:00 p.m. EST on Wednesday for Christmas Eve, close on Christmas Day on Thursday, and shut early again at 1 p.m. on Friday
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Response to Mav:
"I am not sure if it is going to be a 1/2 trading section..."
The U.S. stock market will shut early at 1:00 p.m. EST on Wednesday for Christmas Eve, close on Christmas Day on Thursday, and shut early again at 1 p.m. on Friday
P.S: The day before and after , the marketss will close @ 1:00 PM ET..
http://www.nasdaq.com/about/schedule.stm
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Mav... Great DD as usual! I'm going to look and see if there is more information on the Video Software dealers Association and the statistics that they track... Should be interesting DD. How's your weekend? The next week should be pretty exciting in the market! Looking forward to the day befoe Christmas. By the way... is it a 1/2 day tradig session? machThe Video Software Dealers Association, which also tracks rental data for VHS cassettes and DVDs, said game rental revenue increased to $201 million from $184 million a year earlier and $161.4 million in the prior quarter.
Glad to see you were able to accumulate a few more shares here. I'm unsure whether you are accumulating on your own via an online broker or by having broker fill your order.
You may have opportunity in the morning to accumulate shares between .029 & .031 as the MM have signaled they still need to accumulate more shares before they let this run. Only the MM's will accumulate at .028.
Look forward to your discussion with John Fleming in January. The new site should be up soon... I have seen a sample of the site a few weeks back when a member was able to link it to a message board. It is extremely impressive.
When the site is launched you will likely see a dramatic increase in the price of this stock. I am mentioning that to encourage your friends to purchase at least partial positions in PGHI before this takes place.
Technicals are strengthening daily and the "Bulls" will likely have "Seized complete Control" of PGHI this week.
Yes, we need to always remind investors that we are on the ground floor of a great opportunity here.
"First Publicly Traded Online Video Game Rental Company"
"70% of all households will have a video game console by 2005"
"Strong Shareholders"
"New corporate name, and new site coming soon!"
*** The Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by Magoo:
MachI did try to pick up some more share of PGHI on friday. I did snag just under 50,000 shares which added to a strong position. I will be at it again on Monday trying to buy at around .03 for another 300,000
I have been dealing in the bigger markets since 1975 so this is a nice distraction and nice to be involved in something from the ground floor.
I do have other tradeing friends which are going to be buying in once we do see the new web site and they are up and running in their new distribution center. I am going to be going to Kentucky myself before we dump a lot of money into this and talk with the CEO myself. That will be early January.
At that point I will be able to tell all that I find. My corporate lawer will be going with me.
Everything they have done so far makes sence as starting a company like this takes time to set it up right.
If all the ducks are in line this could be an excellent oppertunity for everyone who is in this.
Thanks to all for time spent on their reasearch
I do the the PPM on John Flemming. I do not have any real doubts about John Flemming at this point. He has done all the right moves and taken the steps nessary to get this up and running.
The trip to Kentucky is not only for this but will be in the area on other business. It will take me a little out of the way but is worth the extra time.
Mach
My tradeing friends will be going in on Monday with buy orders. We are going to holding off with some bigger buys until after we see more progress with the web site and they are up and running. At that time we are going to be dumping some bigger money into the company.
By then I will have visited the site and spoken with John Flemming. This is more for my conservitive friends than myself.
Everything I have heard and reasearched has proven to be right so no worries.
Thanks for your help
Ron B.
Netflix Churns Lower, Moves Higher
The Motley Fool Radio Show
By David Gardner and Tom Gardner
October 28, 2003
David and Tom Gardner recently interviewed Netflix (Nasdaq: NFLX) CEO Reed Hastings on The Motley Fool Radio Show on NPR. This is the first of four parts.
TMF: Reed Hastings is the CEO of Netflix. He joins us from Los Angeles, Calif. Reed, welcome back to The Motley Fool Radio Show.
Hastings: Thank you.
TMF: You just reported a third-quarter profit that exceeded expectations. You ended the quarter with 1.29 million subscribers. That is a 74% increase from last year. Your stock now trades at around $50 a share, Reed, compared to $12 a share when our show last had you on in January, what is going on?
Hastings: Well, we have continued to grow our subscriber base. First quarter we were up 75%, second quarter we are up 75% year over year, and now third quarter we are up 75% year over year. It has just been tremendous growth and it is driven from, I think, a great service that customers want to tell their friends about, one of these amazing word-of-mouth phenomena.
TMF: So your third-quarter report is just out. What is the highlight and, importantly, what is the lowlight in your opinion of your third quarter earnings?
Hastings: Well, the highlight is we had record revenues, $72 million. We had GAAP net income of $3.3 million; about three times what we expected. Our monthly churn has decreased from 7.2% to 6% and now in Q3 hit a record low of 5.2%. So those are the big highlights.
Lowlights, I am stretching for that one. We did not issue guidance for 2004. We will do that in January.
TMF: Explain for our listeners what a "churn rate" is and why it is important that yours has been falling.
Hastings: Sure. The churn rate is how many subscribers quit in a given month. Our service is $20 a month and there is no commitment. It is easy to get in and out of. What we do is sometimes consumers will leave the service for a few months, similar to how people treat HBO. They might turn it off for a few months and then come back to it. The rate at which they leave is the churn and that is, again, about 5% per month now.
TMF: We are looking over the numbers, Reed. At your present rate, we estimate you will churn out of about 900,000 customers by year's end. You begin here with about 850,000 customers, which I guess begs the question: How long is your median customer maintaining his Netflix membership?
Hastings: The mean customer life is roughly one divided by the churn, so that is about 20 months at this point, 19 point something. I am not sure on the median, but it would probably be pretty close. I don't think there would be anything skewed there. So what we have done is really extend the customer life by reducing the churn. Many of the people who leave the service come back to it. So they are not leaving because they are unhappy with it. They are just turning it off and to be most straightforward, we report that as churn, even though they say that they are going to be coming back.
TMF: To the extent that there is any tradition in the world of DVD rentals, I will say for many people it is a pretty impulsive act. They walk down to their video store. They check out some of the aisles. They spend more time than they wanted to looking, and they end up renting something and then taking it home. Now with Netflix, customers wait to get the movie in the mail. So does getting people to rent from Netflix involve changing consumer behavior from here?
Hastings: It does. It is one of the great challenges of Netflix marketing. It is a consumer behavior change. It is why our best marketing program ever has been our free trial to let any consumer try Netflix for free. What we find is once they have tried it, they realize, "Oh, I get to keep three movies at home at any point. I don't have any late fees or due dates." So then Friday night comes and it actually feels more spontaneous because they can just pick up one of the DVDs from the top of the TV and watch it. But until someone tries it, that's a bit of an abstract concept. So we have really invested heavily in this free-trial notion. The way you can see that working is nine out of 10 people who try our service for free become paying subscribers.
TMF: Reed, the U.S. isn't the only country with a well-developed postal infrastructure. Will Netflix expand internationally, and if so, when?
Hastings: Sure. It is absolutely something we are looking at. What we realize, though, is that we will do about $270 million of revenue this year in the U.S. That is only about 3% of the domestic video rental market. It is about a $10 billion market. We are really at a very small penetration here in the U.S., and we may be as well served in focusing domestically for a little while, continuing to build that share, get to our 5 million subscribers/billion dollars of revenue goal and then expand at that point. So we are debating that back and forth.
Tomorrow: Will Netflix expand beyond movies?
Netflix was David Gardner's June 2003 pick for Motley Fool Stock Advisor and has returned about 137% to date.
Here is the latest chart, now I will try and explain the techs as unbiased as I can.
Volume- not on the chart, but very low, under 2 mil. We will need more volume in the coming week for this to move up.
Candles- 3 days in a row of bullish candles, a good sign. Today's candle, a Hammer, shows a possible drop on monday. For an example look at the bullish hammer in mid-november followed by a bearish candle. This is usually a short term price correction. I dont expect a correction of novembers magnitude, because of the low volume. A drop to .027 .028 is realistic. After the correction, the trend will resume upwards, as it did in November
Williams %R- a measure of Oversold or Overbought securities. 80 is oversold, 20 is Overbought. When at 50, no matter which direction the price is going it is seen as a healthy rate of change.
//PGHI// This agrees with the candles that the correction expected will be small if at all, because it was not overbought on Friday, it was a healthy uptrend. IMO, we would reach 20 (overbought) if it ran to .06-.08 in 2 weeks, at which time I would cash in, take free shares, and wait for consolidation to end for a new entry point. What we WANT is SLOW STEADY INCREASE. This is how real gains are made.
Stochastic- another measure of oversold/overbought. Notice how it moves with the williams %R. "Stokes" are superior IMO because it has a Fast and Slow line. When the fast crosses the slow, it indicates a possible new trend.
//PGHI// 3 days ago the Fast crossed the slow and began moving UPWARDS, also seen in November before the big run up (Mach I hope you noticed that, guessing you did).
MACD. One of the most important indicators. Moving Average Convergence Divergance. The red line is the SLOW LINE or longer duration MA, grey is the fast line or shorter duration MA. In this case they are the 12/26.
There are a couple things to look at with this. When ABOVE the 0 line, it is said to be BULLISH, below bearish.
//PGHI// Currently we are above the 0, so we are still in a longer term bull run.
YOU MUST LOOK AT BOTH LINES. When the fast line crosses the slow line it is an indication of a possible new trend. The fast line for PGHI will move closer to the slow line and will be similar to November, where it hovered around the 0. The blue divergence bars indicate which direction the slow line is moving.
EMA (Exponential Moving Average)- Moving average taking into consideration larger price swings and calculating them in. A good reference before entering a position. Trading above short duration MA is short term Bullish. Above long duration is Long term bullish.
When prices drop, the VOLUME must be looked at. Dropping through any MA line on HUGE volume is BAD. However, hitting or going through any MA on LIGHT volume is ok, and is a possible reversal point.
//PGHI// Over the past 2 months PGHI has been keeping with the 10 DAY MOVING AVERAGE which is very bullish.
PGHI has touched the 30 Day moving average twice- In November when it bottomed, and this week, where it bottomed. And has not seen the 50 Day Moving average in a few months. This tells you the stock is bullish on short, monthly and quarterly durations.
**************SUMMARY*************
VOLUME= Needs to increase to 3-4 Mil/Day on the up days, and stay below 2-3 Mil on the down days.
CANDLES= Hammer. Bullish. Small Correction Possible Monday to ~ .027 .028
WILLIAMS %R= Oversold, becoming less oversold
STOCHASTICS= Oversold, becoming less oversold
MACD= Slow above 0, Long term bullish
Fast at the 0 moving back above 0, short term bullish
Exponential Moving Averages 10,30,50= Bullish on all three counts
*****OTHER FACTORS / SPECULATION********
MM SIGNALS
100 sale means MM needs shares
200 sale means MM needs shares bad-lot of orders he cannot cover
300 sale means MM is going to take price down to get shares
400 sale means trade sideways
500 sale gapping up or down depending on which way the sale went
Friday
12:28:26 200 NEEDS SHARES, much buying afterwards
15:57:48 300 0.03 + OTCBB near the close
15:57:18 300 0.029 - OTCBB
NEW WEBSITE
Is expected to come out be the EOY
CHRISTMAS RALLY
Its a tradition!
NAME CHANGE
Changing Name to GamezNFlix possible by end of January?
SITE RANKING / HITS
Site continues to get more hits month over month as other competing sites dwindle.
This has taken 2 hours to prepare, 45 min to type out, please read it.
Thank you to Mach, Mav, Marty, PSU, Milty, Raven, BetNit, and all others who actually get dirty, sift through those SEC files and other junk to get the real DD done.
And of course, pbwizard for this banner
Conclusion:
Respect and embrace the very normal 50-62% retracements that take prices back to major trends. If a trade is missed, wait patiently for the market to retrace. Far more often than not, retracements happen... just as we are about to give up hope that they shall not.
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Sure. It is absolutely something we are looking at. What we realize, though, is that we will do about $270 million of revenue this year in the U.S. That is only about 3% of the domestic video rental market. It is about a $10 billion market. We are really at a very small penetration here in the U.S., and we may be as well served in focusing domestically for a little while, continuing to build that share, get to our 5 million subscribers/billion dollars of revenue goal and then expand at that point. So we are debating that back and forth.
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Originally posted by Mav:
This is an interesting interview....Netflix Churns Lower, Moves Higher
The Motley Fool Radio Show
By David Gardner and Tom Gardner
October 28, 2003David and Tom Gardner recently interviewed Netflix (Nasdaq: NFLX) CEO Reed Hastings on The Motley Fool Radio Show on NPR. This is the first of four parts.
TMF: Reed Hastings is the CEO of Netflix. He joins us from Los Angeles, Calif. Reed, welcome back to The Motley Fool Radio Show.Hastings: Thank you.
TMF: You just reported a third-quarter profit that exceeded expectations. You ended the quarter with 1.29 million subscribers. That is a 74% increase from last year. Your stock now trades at around $50 a share, Reed, compared to $12 a share when our show last had you on in January, what is going on?
Hastings: Well, we have continued to grow our subscriber base. First quarter we were up 75%, second quarter we are up 75% year over year, and now third quarter we are up 75% year over year. It has just been tremendous growth and it is driven from, I think, a great service that customers want to tell their friends about, one of these amazing word-of-mouth phenomena.
TMF: So your third-quarter report is just out. What is the highlight and, importantly, what is the lowlight in your opinion of your third quarter earnings?
Hastings: Well, the highlight is we had record revenues, $72 million. We had GAAP net income of $3.3 million; about three times what we expected. Our monthly churn has decreased from 7.2% to 6% and now in Q3 hit a record low of 5.2%. So those are the big highlights.
Lowlights, I am stretching for that one. We did not issue guidance for 2004. We will do that in January.
TMF: Explain for our listeners what a "churn rate" is and why it is important that yours has been falling.
Hastings: Sure. The churn rate is how many subscribers quit in a given month. Our service is $20 a month and there is no commitment. It is easy to get in and out of. What we do is sometimes consumers will leave the service for a few months, similar to how people treat HBO. They might turn it off for a few months and then come back to it. The rate at which they leave is the churn and that is, again, about 5% per month now.
TMF: We are looking over the numbers, Reed. At your present rate, we estimate you will churn out of about 900,000 customers by year's end. You begin here with about 850,000 customers, which I guess begs the question: How long is your median customer maintaining his Netflix membership?
Hastings: The mean customer life is roughly one divided by the churn, so that is about 20 months at this point, 19 point something. I am not sure on the median, but it would probably be pretty close. I don't think there would be anything skewed there. So what we have done is really extend the customer life by reducing the churn. Many of the people who leave the service come back to it. So they are not leaving because they are unhappy with it. They are just turning it off and to be most straightforward, we report that as churn, even though they say that they are going to be coming back.
TMF: To the extent that there is any tradition in the world of DVD rentals, I will say for many people it is a pretty impulsive act. They walk down to their video store. They check out some of the aisles. They spend more time than they wanted to looking, and they end up renting something and then taking it home. Now with Netflix, customers wait to get the movie in the mail. So does getting people to rent from Netflix involve changing consumer behavior from here?
Hastings: It does. It is one of the great challenges of Netflix marketing. It is a consumer behavior change. It is why our best marketing program ever has been our free trial to let any consumer try Netflix for free. What we find is once they have tried it, they realize, "Oh, I get to keep three movies at home at any point. I don't have any late fees or due dates." So then Friday night comes and it actually feels more spontaneous because they can just pick up one of the DVDs from the top of the TV and watch it. But until someone tries it, that's a bit of an abstract concept. So we have really invested heavily in this free-trial notion. The way you can see that working is nine out of 10 people who try our service for free become paying subscribers.
TMF: Reed, the U.S. isn't the only country with a well-developed postal infrastructure. Will Netflix expand internationally, and if so, when?
Hastings: Sure. It is absolutely something we are looking at. What we realize, though, is that we will do about $270 million of revenue this year in the U.S. That is only about 3% of the domestic video rental market. It is about a $10 billion market. We are really at a very small penetration here in the U.S., and we may be as well served in focusing domestically for a little while, continuing to build that share, get to our 5 million subscribers/billion dollars of revenue goal and then expand at that point. So we are debating that back and forth.
Tomorrow: Will Netflix expand beyond movies?
Netflix was David Gardner's June 2003 pick for Motley Fool Stock Advisor and has returned about 137% to date.
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To answer your question, I do have an Ameritrade account so I purchase PGHI through that.
However I use a broker for some of the other holdings I have.
Nothing better than controling your own portfolio. imho of course. mach
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Originally posted by Magoo:
MachTo answer your question, I do have an Ameritrade account so I purchase PGHI through that.
However I use a broker for some of the other holdings I have.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by machtabow2:
[B]Mav... this particular part of that message is very interesting indeed. It demonstrates that there is much more opportunity in the US DVD rental market remaining. Even a small fraction of that market would greatly impact our success. Outstanding work. mach
Why does the stock of a successful start up company surge at some point.....because there are big buyers waiting in the wings to make sure the "egg has hatched". When this is confirmed, then the bigger buyers jump in and help the baby bird take flight.
I am sure there are many others out there like your friends. Once PGHI shows they are for real....the money will flow in. Patience will pay off for those in at this level.
PSU
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Originally posted by Magoo:
Thanks PSUMy tradeing friends will be going in on Monday with buy orders. We are going to holding off with some bigger buys until after we see more progress with the web site and they are up and running. At that time we are going to be dumping some bigger money into the company.
By then I will have visited the site and spoken with John Flemming. This is more for my conservitive friends than myself.Everything I have heard and reasearched has proven to be right so no worries.
Thanks for your help
Ron B.
There is one thing I wanted you to take a look at... We are on the same page with respect to our medium term outlook... but I have found that the day to day moves have been a little more difficult if you use Candlestick charting. (I try to stay away from predictig day to day moves as some members will be quick to point out that you were wrong.)
Example... As we approached the end of November... you will notice several candlestick doji's and hammers which may have may have been communicated a potential pullback in the context of an uptrend...but in fact this did not occur on the following day.
What i have noticed is that as the stock strengthens... the MM do their best to shake out shares by dropping the floor fast. A few weak hands may sell... but the selling is usually minimal. This creates the lower wick on the candlestick... that may often be deceiving when using candlestick charting technique.
Tech analyis is working well with trending... but I also follow Level II closely with respect to what I believe will be the movement the next day.
If MM in fact attempt to shake out a few shares in the morning... I think it may in fact be minimal and that only a few weak hands will sell.
After all... we are now beginning an uptrend and are currently trading near the floor... We are entering the Christmas holiday week... and anticipate the name change and site to be up soon. Honestly can not imagine too many people walking away from what could be potentially "huge" gains in the coming weeks for minimal or no profit.
MM's may have placed the signal that they need more shares... but we may find that shareholdes are simply not going to let go of their shares. Let's see how it pans out... Any selling should be minimal.
We need to make sure board members are aware that they do not have stop-loss orders placed in the morning or they will likely be forced to buy back in at a higher price after the MM's "steal" their shares and then keep a "large" spread.
I really do enjoy this "Chess Game" with the MM's.
imho
mach
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Originally posted by PSU90:
Ron....this part of your message is very encouraging to me. Why? Because it shows the psychology of the traders waiting on this.Why does the stock of a successful start up company surge at some point.....because there are big buyers waiting in the wings to make sure the "egg has hatched". When this is confirmed, then the bigger buyers jump in and help the baby bird take flight.
I am sure there are many others out there like your friends. Once PGHI shows they are for real....the money will flow in. Patience will pay off for those in at this level.
PSU
By the end of 2003, based on performance standards established by the US Postal Service, Netflix expects to be able to provide one-day delivery service to approximately 60% of the U.S. population or approximately 70% of their subscribers. At the time the 2002 annual report was written, Netflix states they provide one- or two-day delivery service to more than 90% of the U.S. population.
j160e
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Great DD again. You are demonstrating the board... the importance of the TIMELINESS IN THE FULLFILLMENT OF ORDERS and the importance of having multiple-distribution centers.
The creation of a Kentucky distribution center is a strategic move by a great leader in anticipation of our growing customer base and Veegeez's desire for FAST AND EFFICIENT FULLFILLMENT.
After all Happy Customers are Loyal Customers! And the savy business man understands that it is much easier to retain an existing customer than finding a new one.
"It is no secret in marketing that it is nine times easier to retain a customer than it is to convert an existing customer to your product. Converting an existing customer takes a great deal of money, advertising, and a distinct competitive advantage."
Great job! mach
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Originally posted by j160e:
I just read on page 16 of the Netflix 2002 annual report that they estimate the set-up cost of a shipping center to be $60,000.By the end of 2003, based on performance standards established by the US Postal Service, Netflix expects to be able to provide one-day delivery service to approximately 60% of the U.S. population or approximately 70% of their subscribers. At the time the 2002 annual report was written, Netflix states they provide one- or two-day delivery service to more than 90% of the U.S. population.
j160e
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Psychology and the life cycle of a stock.
I found this commentary by Tyler Bollhorn of Stockscores.
"....there is more to the game of trading stocks than just good analysis. There are good chart readers and well informed insiders that have the same thing in common; they can not make money in the stock market. Their lack of performance shared the same reason.
They don't have their head screwed on straight.
Actually, they do have their mental faculties properly aligned, but they are just not set up properly for stock market trading. From the time we are small children we are taught to avoid pain and seek out pleasure. We can all hear our parents warning us to not touch the stove, but to have a good time when we joined our friends. Our upbringing is destructive to our performance in the market. To be successful, we must learn to be behavioral deviants.
To make my point, I outline the life cycle of a stock, and how the successful trader differs from the minion who has the typical psychological responses to the stock market;
Stage 1 - Accumulation. Stock is quiet, trading sideways and without a lot of volatility. Most everyone ignores the stock because it has no sizzle. Insiders hold large blocks of stock and quietly gear up for the distribution.
Stage 2 - Breakout. Volume jumps up, psychological barriers are broken. Insiders begin to tell their friends of upcoming significant fundamental change. Pros take notice and buy the stock on the coat tails of the well informed. The public ignores it because they have not read about the company in the paper yet. It must be a scam.
Stage 3 - Uptrend. As a larger audience learns of the company and its promise, more buying comes in to the stock and it begins to climb. Pros begin to sell, but slowly. Average investor begins to buy.
Stage 4 - Pullback. The stock has gone up too fast, and some profit taking arrives. The jumpy investor who got the entry timing right but lacks confidence in his or her decision sells the stock with a small profit, and smiles in the mirror. The Pro holds on, Average Investor looks through the newspaper to find justification for ownership of the shares.
Stage 5 - Resumption of the Uptrend. The pull back is short lived, and the stock bounces and continues higher. The wannabe regrets the sell, but provides self counsel on the merit of making a profit, albeit a small one. The Pro might sell a little bit more, but still holds the majority of the original position. The Average Investor is getting excited now, and thinks about what could have been if only he had bought when he first noticed the stock.
Stage 6 - Exhaustion of the Uptrend. The media takes notice, and communicates the company's merits to the masses. The masses buy the stock, and it goes up sharply with strong volume. The Pros sell with enthusiasm. The Average Investor owns it now, and is telling everyone who will listen. The wannabe Pro jumps back on, after all, he was smart enough to buy it when the trend started, so he knows the stock well. Will hope make it go higher?
Stage 7 - Gravity Works. Pro selling begins to weigh on the uptrend, and the stock fails to go higher despite high volumes. The stock starts to go down instead of up, and the Pro is almost sold out. The Average Investor continues to cheer lead, hoping to rally support. The wannabe ignores what the market is telling him, taking a loss is too painful to consider. The company is featured on the cover of a magazine.
Stage 8 - The Second Guess. The stock bounces and starts to go back up. The wannabe Pro averages down while the Average Investor gets back to advising friends of his stock picking acumen. Pros sell their remaining holdings and begin to look for another deal to play, or perhaps start short selling the stock.
Stage 9 - Out of Gas. The bounce is a fake out, and the stock moves lower again. The public own this stock, and they have no more power to buy. The Pro are making money on the short sales now, but are despised by the masses. Calls for short selling to be made illegal are made by the Average Investor, after all, the short sellers are the demons causing the sell off.
Stage 10 - Dead Cat Bounce. The Average Investor and the wannabe Pro have no pain tolerance left, and finally sell for a big loss. The short selling Pros are the only buyers to take the share off their hands, and provide the needed liquidity. The stock bounces, and some short term traders make a quick profit. The Average Investor either swears to never buy a stock again, or tells lively stories over drinks about the one that could have been.
Stage 11 - Post Mortem. Pros have forgot about the stock and are considering carpet samples for their new home in Florida. Average Investor continues to follow the company and buys loads of cheap stock to try and overcome the regrettable loss.
The stock market is mean. You can be a good analyst, but if you can't overcome the psychological traps of trading, you will do what the crowd does. To be successful, you have be one step ahead of the crowd, and trade with unemotional discipline. There are strategies to take advantage of each stage of the market cycle that can be applied just by looking at a stock chart. They just require a bit of knowledge."
Experience helps me recognise my mistake when I make it a second time.
I believe we are at stage one..The buzz is yet to begin.When the buzz starts it's gonna be a hell of a ride.....
TRSTURGUT-18
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
j160e...Great DD again. You are demonstrating the board... the importance of the TIMELINESS IN THE FULLFILLMENT OF ORDERS and the importance of having multiple-distribution centers.
The creation of a Kentucky distribution center is a strategic move by a great leader in anticipation of our growing customer base and Veegeez's desire for FAST AND EFFICIENT FULLFILLMENT.
After all Happy Customers are Loyal Customers! And the savy business man understands that it is much easier to retain an existing customer than finding a new one.
Great job! mach
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It is true what you say about the psychology with the differnt buying levels. Some of my friend are going in small to them but maybe big to others as a first buy this week.
They are more traditional buyers with a show me attitude. They are willing to take a smaller portion of the profit as they will be putting in a larger amount of cash then most. It sll comes out in the wash.
We have talk about PGHI for some time now and when it begins to move we will be buying more in larger chunks. This is not to pump the stock but to hold for the long term but sell off a percentage to recover maybe 40% of the initial investment. This will leave the MMs in the dust
I do believe that this will be very benificial for everyone involved at the ground floor
Ron B.
It is true what you say about the psychology with the differnt buying levels. Some of my friend are going in small to them but maybe big to others as a first buy this week.
They are more traditional buyers with a show me attitude. They are willing to take a smaller portion of the profit as they will be putting in a larger amount of cash then most. It sll comes out in the wash.
We have talk about PGHI for some time now and when it begins to move we will be buying more in larger chunks. This is not to pump the stock but to hold for the long term but sell off a percentage to recover maybe 40% of the initial investment. This will leave the MMs in the dust
I do believe that this will be very benificial for everyone involved at the ground floor
Ron B.
I'd say we're near stage 3 or 4. Small selloff, but the majority of the pros are still holding for the new site and name change
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Originally posted by Magoo:
PSUIt is true what you say about the psychology with the differnt buying levels. Some of my friend are going in small to them but maybe big to others as a first buy this week.
They are more traditional buyers with a show me attitude. They are willing to take a smaller portion of the profit as they will be putting in a larger amount of cash then most. It sll comes out in the wash.
We have talk about PGHI for some time now and when it begins to move we will be buying more in larger chunks. This is not to pump the stock but to hold for the long term but sell off a percentage to recover maybe 40% of the initial investment. This will leave the MMs in the dust
I do believe that this will be very benificial for everyone involved at the ground floor
Ron B.
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Originally posted by Magoo:
Sorry double post. My finger must have a twitch in it
Ron....that post was worth reading twice LOL! Hope everyone catches it.
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Playing Mogul
By JONATHAN DEE
Published: December 21, 2003
Globally, the industry earned $28 billion in 2002, and in the United States, it's growing at around 20 percent a year. According to Fortune magazine, Americans will spend more time playing video games this year -- about 75 hours on average -- than watching rented videos and DVD's. A nationwide survey found that the percentage of last year's college students who had ever played video games was 100. Two games from the industry leader Electronic Arts, Madden NFL Football and FIFA Soccer, have each earned in excess of a billion dollars. (This year's Madden edition made more than $200 million alone.) For new and established musicians alike, games are the new radio; landing a spot on a video-game soundtrack is arguably more prestigious than landing a similar spot in a movie, a function not just of sales figures but also of the fact that the average Madden NFL 2004 buyer, for instance, will spend 100 hours in front of the game. Each statistic is more mind-boggling than the last, and together they certainly pose a challenge to conventional wisdom about which of these media is the tail and which is the dog.
Complete report at: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/21/magazine/21GAMES.html?pagewanted=1
And thanks to everyone else for their posts. I read every single one. I feel like I'm a part of something very unique here
Here is another nice PGHI chart with notes:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1981684
PSU
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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Hey, Cabbage22! That was the best post on analysis that I have read. It was just like going to school. Thanks for that very easy to understand piece of work. I will be using that info in the future.And thanks to everyone else for their posts. I read every single one. I feel like I'm a part of something very unique here
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
leaving tacoma now writting from wireless pda have great news will post asap
As I drove to Tacoma with my doors locked (it’s a very dangerous place for a white guy n a SUV) I was scouting for the NetFlix “huge” distribution center…I found the street it was on but couldn’t seem to find this huge warehouse. When I finally did find it, I noticed a couple of things. First, right next to the warehouse was the Tacoma Police’s meth lab clean up crew….yep..a huge cargo truck that said TACOMA POLICE MOBILE LAB. It looked like they just busted a meth lab…I was not surprised.
Second…the NetFlix Tacoma distribution center consisted of a building that was about 5000 square feet. I paced it off. About 100 by 50 square feet. It was in a little strip mall…you know, the ones that have a
7-11, small restaurant and a dollar store. Except this one had a Dentist office, a small store to make neon signs, and a hair cut place., and then NetFlix. Nothing glamorous about it. There was curtains covering all the windows and a penske rent a van out side. There was a small sticker that said, “NetFlix, No Soliciting” It was About the size of a bumper sticker. Inside consisted of racks of DVD and a cement floor. It was just a basic building about the size of a McDonalds or 7-11. There was a huge post office across the street though, and I think that’s all that counts.
This is what it looks to me happened. Netflix looked for post offices in Washington that had retail space next to them. Then they chose the cheapest crapiest one available. Good Job NetFlix. They are keeping their overhead low. I am not selling my shares of PGHI if it hits .01 or .10. This company has a lot of potential. If PGHI east coast distribution center just happens to be a farm house, then so be it. I would hope its not, but what can you do. I hope they had the sense enough to put it next to a post office.
If you ask me….someone is going to make a lot of money with the online game rental idea. I HOPE its us.
I will try and post some pictures later….right now my software for my digital camera is on the fritz
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Originally posted by Magoo:
MachI did try to pick up some more share of PGHI on friday. I did snag just under 50,000 shares which added to a strong position. I will be at it again on Monday trying to buy at around .03 for another 300,000
I have been dealing in the bigger markets since 1975 so this is a nice distraction and nice to be involved in something from the ground floor.
I do have other tradeing friends which are going to be buying in once we do see the new web site and they are up and running in their new distribution center. I am going to be going to Kentucky myself before we dump a lot of money into this and talk with the CEO myself. That will be early January.
At that point I will be able to tell all that I find. My corporate lawer will be going with me.
Everything they have done so far makes sence as starting a company like this takes time to set it up right.
If all the ducks are in line this could be an excellent oppertunity for everyone who is in this.
Thanks to all for time spent on their reasearch
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i agree with your post below about the benefits of a new distribution center.
it doesn't matter too much to me if it's run out of a garage, either. besides, i myself ran a small website from my bedroom years ago which i sold during the internet boom for a healthy profit.
the way things unfolded along with that satellite photo just got me thinking... but never panicked.
however, after reading the posts from the past day, i'm now less concerned about it.
in any case, i will keep looking around the edges and outside the box and will post anything of interest.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Adrenalix,First and foremost as a shareholder I respect and support the decisions that this company is making. At this particular stage in the progress of the company... it does make sense to have both an East & West Coast Distribution Center. The timeframe in which customers receive and are able to return their rentals will have a dramatic impact on their satisfaction and desire to continue their membership with Veegeez. Knowing that we are about to launch a new site and incoporate DVD rentals... The move indicates that we have a President that is looking to move forward agressively. It would not make sense at all to launch a new site and focus on growing your subscriber base to find out that your new subscribers are disappointed in the timeliness of their orders. Indeed... a company would desire to "have all it's ducks in a row." With respect to whether he has family in Kentucky.. I do not care to speculate... but will add that if in fact I were the President and understood that an East Coast Distibution Center was necessary... I might indeed consider at least trying to locate such a center in an are that I might have family and friends.
mach
1. 4/14/1998 Netflix opens first online DVD rental store. At this time Customers are receiving their DVD in 2 to 3 Days. Around 1000 titles available.. Sound familiar. At this time NetFlix’s free trial SUX, you even had to pay for shipping and it was only a seven day trial.
2. 11/19/1998 Title available now at 2,200
3. 4/12/1999 Instead of keeping a DVD for 7 days, you can keep them for two weeks. At this time they are charging $3.49 for each movie rental.. Doesn’t appear to have the monthly fee unlimited option yet. Titles available now at 3,100
4. 07/07/199 look what they accomplished by this time In Addition To Existing Promotions With Sony, Toshiba And RCA/Thomson Consumer Electronics, World's First And Largest Online DVD Rental Store Announces New Relationships With Panasonic, Philips, Sharp, Kenwood, JVC, Marantz And Mitsubishi
Promotions With Manufacturers Offer Free DVD Rentals To All New NetFlix.Com Customers
5. Another big announcement on this day NETFLIX.COM SECURES $30 MILLION INVESTMENT FROM GROUP ARNAULT
6. This one seems important too. http://www.netflix.com/Static?id=1020
They started their 19.95 a month unlimited movie rentals.
7. 01/02/03 NetFlix has more then 800,000 subscribers. WOW!!!!!
8. 03/17/2003 NetFlix plans to open 2 to 3 new shipping centers each month for the rest of 2003
9. 12/31/2003 NetFlix has almost 1.5 million subscribers. Most have their DVD’s the next day.
Everyone should go to the NetFlix web site and read through their press releases if you have not done it already. There are many more then I posted…. One thing stayed consistent from the beginning. NetFlix always seemed to have great advertising and great advertising ideas. They grew so fast and had a very rocky start. It looked like they were charging per rental and a shipping fee too. But after a while, they didn’t miss a beat…
By the way. Their patent is on their software. So we don’t have to worry about that.
It’s all going to be in the advertising. NetFlix also started with 1000 titles but their advertising was great.
“The Futures So Bright” is right.
It looks like one of the first things NetFlix did was offer free DVD rentals with a purchase of a DVD player from toshiba. I hope John has something like that he is working on. Offering free game rentals with purchase of X-Box or play station....what a way to increase your site exposure. I am going to write John
We had less then 100 people view our site today.....as soon as the new site is up and the east coast is ready...we need to get moving on the advertising. With NetFlix at more then a million subscibers and a big wallet they could easily do what no one here wants them to do. So we need to get this puppy rolling.. LETS GO JOHN......YOU SHOULDN"T BE SLEEPING....GET UP AND WORK.
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Thanks for all of your hard work and reporting back to us with such greatly detailed information. (Very Nice Job!)
Also, I was reading through the last press release...it looks like PGHI is just moving the corprate headquarters to Franklin...it goes on to say that the new distribution center will be opened in the Franklin area. It might not even be out of the corprate office....hate to parse (sp?) words.
I live in the Boston area and found out that their Boston distribution center is actually in Worcester, MA which is about 1-2 hrs west of Boston. When I get some time I will take a ride out there and report what I find.
Thanks again!
j160e
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Some quick facts1. 4/14/1998 Netflix opens first online DVD rental store. At this time Customers are receiving their DVD in 2 to 3 Days. Around 1000 titles available.. Sound familiar. At this time NetFlix’s free trial SUX, you even had to pay for shipping and it was only a seven day trial.
2. 11/19/1998 Title available now at 2,2003. 4/12/1999 Instead of keeping a DVD for 7 days, you can keep them for two weeks. At this time they are charging $3.49 for each movie rental.. Doesn’t appear to have the monthly fee unlimited option yet. Titles available now at 3,100
4. 07/07/199 look what they accomplished by this time In Addition To Existing Promotions With Sony, Toshiba And RCA/Thomson Consumer Electronics, World's First And Largest Online DVD Rental Store Announces New Relationships With Panasonic, Philips, Sharp, Kenwood, JVC, Marantz And Mitsubishi
Promotions With Manufacturers Offer Free DVD Rentals To All New NetFlix.Com Customers5. Another big announcement on this day NETFLIX.COM SECURES $30 MILLION INVESTMENT FROM GROUP ARNAULT
6. This one seems important too. http://www.netflix.com/Static?id=1020
They started their 19.95 a month unlimited movie rentals.7. 01/02/03 NetFlix has more then 800,000 subscribers. WOW!!!!!
8. 03/17/2003 NetFlix plans to open 2 to 3 new shipping centers each month for the rest of 2003
9. 12/31/2003 NetFlix has almost 1.5 million subscribers. Most have their DVD’s the next day.
Everyone should go to the NetFlix web site and read through their press releases if you have not done it already. There are many more then I posted…. One thing stayed consistent from the beginning. NetFlix always seemed to have great advertising and great advertising ideas. They grew so fast and had a very rocky start. It looked like they were charging per rental and a shipping fee too. But after a while, they didn’t miss a beat…By the way. Their patent is on their software. So we don’t have to worry about that.
It’s all going to be in the advertising. NetFlix also started with 1000 titles but their advertising was great.
“The Futures So Bright” is right.It looks like one of the first things NetFlix did was offer free DVD rentals with a purchase of a DVD player from toshiba. I hope John has something like that he is working on. Offering free game rentals with purchase of X-Box or play station....what a way to increase your site exposure. I am going to write John
We had less then 100 people view our site today.....as soon as the new site is up and the east coast is ready...we need to get moving on the advertising. With NetFlix at more then a million subscibers and a big wallet they could easily do what no one here wants them to do. So we need to get this puppy rolling.. LETS GO JOHN......YOU SHOULDN"T BE SLEEPING....GET UP AND WORK.
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CASE IN POINT: THE IMPORTANCE OF A DISTRIBUTION CENTER IS THE ABILITY OF THAT DISTRIBUTION CENTER TO DELIVER GAMEZNFLIX TO CUSTOMERS IN A TIMELY BASIS... AS INDICATED BY THE SUCCESS OF NETFLIX AND THE FACT THAT THEIR DISTRIBUTIN CENTERS ARE NOT "LAVISH" BY ANY MEANS... DID NETFLIX SHAREHOLDERS SELL THEIR SHARES WHEN THEY FOUND OUT THAT NETFLIX WAS OPENING A DISTRIBUTION CENTER IN A HIGH CRIME NEIGHBORHOOD... A SMALL LOCATION WITH A CEMENT FLOOR? NO... THEY BOUGHT MORE BECAUSE THEY REALIZED THAT THIS WAS A COST SAVINGS FACTOR... THAT ALLOWED THEM TO SAVE MONEY AND FOCUS ON GROWTH AND BUILDING A LARGER CUSTOMER BASE. OUTSTANDING JOB AND EXCELLENT POINTS BETN. REALLY! MACH
*** THE FUTURE'S SO BRIGHT ***
MACH
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Ok…here is the deal. When I read the post saying the NetFlix distribution center is in Tacoma I knew two things right away. One is…..I hate Tacoma…..so I wasn’t excited about driving there. it’s a long drive from where I live and it’s a piece of crap city. Crime and drugs are the name of the game there. Anyone who knows Tacoma knows what I am talking about. it’s the only place where you could still get a house for under 100 grand. But…it’s a big city and cheep too, so I thought NetFlix had the right idea, renting a huge warehouse for really cheep.As I drove to Tacoma with my doors locked (it’s a very dangerous place for a white guy n a SUV) I was scouting for the NetFlix “huge” distribution center…I found the street it was on but couldn’t seem to find this huge warehouse. When I finally did find it, I noticed a couple of things. First, right next to the warehouse was the Tacoma Police’s meth lab clean up crew….yep..a huge cargo truck that said TACOMA POLICE MOBILE LAB. It looked like they just busted a meth lab…I was not surprised.
Second…the NetFlix Tacoma distribution center consisted of a building that was about 5000 square feet. I paced it off. About 100 by 50 square feet. It was in a little strip mall…you know, the ones that have a
7-11, small restaurant and a dollar store. Except this one had a Dentist office, a small store to make neon signs, and a hair cut place., and then NetFlix. Nothing glamorous about it. There was curtains covering all the windows and a penske rent a van out side. There was a small sticker that said, “NetFlix, No Soliciting” It was About the size of a bumper sticker. Inside consisted of racks of DVD and a cement floor. It was just a basic building about the size of a McDonalds or 7-11. There was a huge post office across the street though, and I think that’s all that counts.This is what it looks to me happened. Netflix looked for post offices in Washington that had retail space next to them. Then they chose the cheapest crapiest one available. Good Job NetFlix. They are keeping their overhead low. I am not selling my shares of PGHI if it hits .01 or .10. This company has a lot of potential. If PGHI east coast distribution center just happens to be a farm house, then so be it. I would hope its not, but what can you do. I hope they had the sense enough to put it next to a post office.
If you ask me….someone is going to make a lot of money with the online game rental idea. I HOPE its us.
I will try and post some pictures later….right now my software for my digital camera is on the fritz
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Originally posted by Marcidius:
FINALLY!! My Lowtrades account is open and I have a limit order in at .029, you guys think this might get filled today? Or should I just do a Market order at .031 to make sure I get a position?
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Originally posted by j160e:
Great posts BetNitAll! Thanks for putting those facts together. I too was reading through some of those press releases along with the annual report on their website. Promotions with manufacturers is huge for exposure. Let's hope that once the new website is up, the advertising begins.I live in the Boston area and found out that their Boston distribution center is actually in Worcester, MA which is about 1-2 hrs west of Boston. When I get some time I will take a ride out there and report what I find.
Thanks again!
j160e
Thanks for your post on the outlet in Tacoma.
Sounds like you are in my neck of the woods. I live in Blaine Washington which is on I-5 just at the Canadian border.
I am going to New York on a work related trip. That is scheduale for January 18. I will be getting in touch with john Flemming prior to that and see if I can see him prior to or after I get to New York.
I do not have any doubts about PGHI but would like to see and speak to John myself before I am willing to have my friends go in heavy on the company. We are buying into the company this week as to get in on the ground floor but plan to put in enough cash which will give the company a good boost.
It is the right of the shareholder to have full disclosure on all the assets and legal filings of the company. My corporate lawyer will be with me and he is well versed on these matters. Thay is why I need to speak with John so he will be able to gather information. I am sure that he is tied up with the move at this time.
Once again do not take this as me haveing any doubts on PGHI just want to be carefull with recomending to my friends before they put in a larger amount of cash. We are new to the pennies so it is one step at a time for us.
As far as the location in Tacoma goes. Tacoma dose make sence as it is about 50 miles south of Seattle and between the two the population base must be about the same as all the rest of Washington and most of Oregon. Tacoma dose have it"s problems but also is one of the hubs of business for the northwest. I personally would not live there but would not hesitate to open a warehouseing business there.
This will be my last post of the day as I need to get to work.
Thanks for your efforts Benitall
Ron B.
It's always great to have things "thrown on the table" to discuss. The messages and viewpoints of shareholders that followed were great. To see the intense Satellite DD followed up with a drive to a Netflix location by Betn with details of that location is outstanding. This is quite the trading "Team" we have here. mach
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Originally posted by adrenalix:
mach-i agree with your post below about the benefits of a new distribution center.
it doesn't matter too much to me if it's run out of a garage, either. besides, i myself ran a small website from my bedroom years ago which i sold during the internet boom for a healthy profit.
the way things unfolded along with that satellite photo just got me thinking... but never panicked.
however, after reading the posts from the past day, i'm now less concerned about it.
in any case, i will keep looking around the edges and outside the box and will post anything of interest.
Go PGHI
Off to work now
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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Volume already at 602,718...
imho
mach
PSU
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Yes... considerable difference from our 9000 volume at this point on Friday. As I said... "Calm before the Storm" mach
you can count me in...I would really like to talk to Mr Fleming face to face.
buck
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Any chance of making this a group of investors going to see John Fleming. I would love to make that trip, and am more then willing to go. Any one else want to or can go?
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Originally posted by PSU90:
Good morning Mach.....looking good here this morning! .031x.034 as I type. Looks like the MM's might not get that that "take down for shares" they wanted!PSU
Surf's up! Let's ride this one to shore... long term style
Just interested in people's response. - Marty
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Originally posted by j160e:
I've had a buy in for 30000 at 0.034 for 10 minutes now with just a partial 6000 fill.
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
I know I am putting the "cart before the horse" on this one, but lets say PGHI does well and oh about a year from today this is at the fifty cents mark. Do any of you think a split is possible to get this on the NASDAQ?Just interested in people's response. - Marty
That's quite the ridiculous spread...
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Originally posted by j160e:
I've had a buy in for 30000 at 0.034 for 10 minutes now with just a partial 6000 fill.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
j160e... Were you able to accumulate below .03... Im trying to recall or were you waiting for confirmaton of the reversal? mach
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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Now volume at 831,608! Wasn't Friday's total just 2mil? Looking good.
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Originally posted by j160e:
Mach, I started buying on November 5th at 0.025 and continued buying up to 0.045. WIth this mornings purchase I now have 140000 at 0.035 average and am tapped out. Time to sit back, (well I'll keep sharing any DD I come up with of course) and enjoy the ride IMO!
Give me a P! Give me a G! Give me an H! Give me an I! What's that spell?!!! MONEY!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Our PGHI investment team has everything, just as Mach has posted earlier. Only thing we need now are cheerleaders
Like mach says, FUTURE SO BRIGHT!! Volume is high and spread is nice...let's see this thing to the moon
CHRISTMAS RALLY?
Historically, the days before and after Christmas and Thanksgiving holidays have produced above average returns with strong frequency numbers for the markets. Both the frequency and gains for these two particular trading days have been far superior to market averages. (Time in Time Out, Thackray & Lindsay.). Although I had not applied this trading strategy to bb stocks in the past, I was pleasantly surprised to see that PGHI traded well in the “days” preceding Thanksgiving with a trend that produced substantial gains in the following days. Can we assume that a similar pattern will happen into the Christmas Holiday. Never underestimate the power of the market?
mach
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You were correct. So if PGHI was at fifty cents, they would issue a reverse-split of lets say 2-1 which would bring us to a dollar. Shareholders would have their PPS increase while the amount of holdings would decrease. It is about it, way over simplified but you get the idea. -
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Originally posted by j160e:
Mach, I started buying on November 5th at 0.025 and continued buying up to 0.045. WIth this mornings purchase I now have 140000 at 0.035 average and am tapped out. Time to sit back, (well I'll keep sharing any DD I come up with of course) and enjoy the ride IMO!
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Originally posted by Marcidius:
Got in at .031, FINALLY I'm in on this fueling rocket!Like mach says, FUTURE SO BRIGHT!! Volume is high and spread is nice...let's see this thing to the moon
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
BAMM and NITE at .032 looking good
Just about to break 1mil on volume traded!
12/15/2003 per Interwest Transfer Company
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 440,799,949
Float: 197,361,116
__________________________________________
And thanks Mach!! I AM SO PUMPED! Like you said, BAMM at .033, this thing is pulling already for us, that would be great for a Christmas Eve rally!!
~Marc
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Originally posted by Marcidius:
ORANGE where you see your blocks traded at?And thanks Mach!! I AM SO PUMPED! Like you said, BAMM at .033, this thing is pulling already for us, that would be great for a Christmas Eve rally!!
~Marc
I was given a fairly decent single disc Sony DVD Player for my Birthday,
which will be in a few weeks.......anyway, it had the Netflix free month
advertising on the box. Seems like a good deal, I went for it. I have
to say, if they are shipping thier DVD's the waythey do, and it's not
damaging the media, we traders are way overdoing it. It comes in thin
paper, with a thin paper envelope inside for the disc. I had an awful
experience with their movies on DVD. Virtually all of the movies were
unwatchable. They skipped, and jumped, and did stuff I've never seen a
VHS tape do. I would be surprised if 10% of the DVD's I got from them
played right. Unfortunately, about 4 months ago I lost my wallet, with
credit cards and everything, so I had all my account numbers changed. I
had stopped ordering DVD's from them because they were mostly
unwatchable, so I just waited until they couldn't bill my bank debit
card any more. They called and asked if they could be of service, and
send me more DVD's in exchange for a new card number. I told them
things were just fine, thanks and adios.
They have a free service that shows the blocks traded... although I think it's on a 15 minute delay.
I made a window for it for easy access on my computer.
found out about it from a member here
the reverse will only double if the ratio is 2:1, which is not really a realistic ratio, I used it for an example.
In my opinion, reverse splits are not a good thing, with the exception to allow a market change. I would rather see PGHI PPS work its way with supply and demand. -
Please remember this in the future. Do you now how hard it was for the MM to move this down .001 just a few days ago... Very difficult... Now look at how Bullish the stock is on the upside. This is very Bullish... and will happen often for a very long time to come. mach
Because there are so many outstanding shares (about 320 mil compared to 25 mil for NFLX according to yahoo), I do not think that this stock can get too much higher than .75 to $1.00 without some type of reverse split.
I think that we could easily see a run up over the next few months to .25-.50, all the while seeing PGHI using the increase in stock price to get private placement investment and raise significant capital. At that point, if all things are going well, I would love to see a 1 for 5 or 1 for 10 reverse split, which would place PGHI on the map for listing on the NASDAQ and increase the exposure to the "big" players and other investors (who of course will look at the stock price only dreaming that they got in back when the stock was at these levels)...
Of course, this is only my educated guess (based upon lots of DD and of course, this board) as to the possibility of this company. What I outlined above is exactly what happened in UDW (U.S. Dataworks), another company that I was investinh in. It was trading around .20 back in May. I got in big back then, and it went to the .60-.70 range, and in September the company announced a 1 for 5 reverse split. It is now trading in the mid $3 range.
Whether the same thing will occur here, time will only tell. But I am very bullish about this company and think it has huge upside potential for minimal downside risk.
This is just my opinion. Curious to here what others think...
JB
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PSU
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Case in Point:Please remember this in the future. Do you now how hard it was for the MM to move this down .001 just a few days ago... Very difficult... Now look at how Bullish the stock is on the upside. This is very Bullish... and will happen often for a very long time to come. mach
Looks like it peaked for the day, thank god, didnt want it going out of control.
THAT RUN WAS ON 1.9 mil volume, IMAGINE A 20-40 MIL volume day!!!
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Case in Point:Please remember this in the future. Do you now how hard it was for the MM to move this down .001 just a few days ago... Very difficult... Now look at how Bullish the stock is on the upside. This is very Bullish... and will happen often for a very long time to come. mach
And congrats to people who took action and advantage of the situation and bought @ around .027 instead of whining that the price was going down..
R we having fun yet????
GL
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Very true Mach, beaten down for a week, all loss recovered in two hours. There is very little resistance overhead, especially up around .05Looks like it peaked for the day, thank god, didnt want it going out of control.
THAT RUN WAS ON 1.9 mil volume, IMAGINE A 20-40 MIL volume day!!!
MAV where are you today?
mach
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Originally posted by chrissy_a:
Hey guys, do you own this stock for the mid/long term or do mosty people here day trade,espically when seeing the trend on this stock. Chrissy
quote:
Originally posted by chrissy_a:
Hey guys, do you own this stock for the mid/long term or do mosty people here day trade,espically when seeing the trend on this stock. Chrissy
My shares of PGHI, 65% Long 35% Short .
When the time is right, 35% sold and will buy back on the retraction. 60% is going long, depending on what unfolds at least 1 year. -
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by Degs:
psst...this is Degs wife. You guys are awesome.I wanted to do this earlier, like a month ago and he wouldn't let me do, but he is gone for a few hours. I watched him put his name and password in on Friday..hehe!! I don't get to read anything posted here until late at night. Just wanted to let you all know, Mach, Cabbage, and especially Uncle Milty (you have my heart)...I love you guys!!
Degs wife, Robin
GL
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Originally posted by chrissy_a:
Hey guys, do you own this stock for the mid/long term or do mosty people here day trade,espically when seeing the trend on this stock. Chrissy
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Hey... keep in mind the Bullish MACD crossover is still a few trading days away.... Much... much more upside forthcoming here! Incredible! Yes... as we've always stated... those strong investors here that realized the drop below .03 was a great buy opportunity will be greatly rewarded!MAV where are you today?
mach
Thanks for the Info Orange, I'll have to check it out, and for everyone else, good luck and just...WOW...haha
Mach, Mav, Milty, Cabbage, those that I missed...you RULE!
~Marc
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach, I am back on line, lost internet signal today, i am on a public computer, can you belive this ?!!!. BUT I AM HERE ALREADY, THIS IS HOT I TOLD YOU, THIS IS GOING TO GO STRONG FROM NOW ON, AND ALL THE GOOD THIS THAT WILL COME, THIS INDUSTRY IS HOT.!!!
JB
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach, I am back on line, lost internet signal today, i am on a public computer, can you belive this ?!!!. BUT I AM HERE ALREADY, THIS IS HOT I TOLD YOU, THIS IS GOING TO GO STRONG FROM NOW ON, AND ALL THE GOOD THIS THAT WILL COME, THIS INDUSTRY IS HOT.!!!
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Originally posted by JEB7006:
Looks like .036 is the new base for today...I agree Mach -- slow walk up is better.JB
How about those .02's I miss them already!
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Originally posted by Marcidius:
Wow! Walk away from my desk for 20 minutes, come back and it's up 25% hahaha man I am loving this...Thanks for the Info Orange, I'll have to check it out, and for everyone else, good luck and just...WOW...haha
Mach, Mav, Milty, Cabbage, those that I missed...you RULE!
~Marc
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
MAV... WAS WONDERING WHERE YOU WERE FOR THE PAST FEW HOURS... YES THIS IS HOT! WE HAVE YET TO SEE THE MACD BULLISH CROSSOVER OCCUR ON THE ONE MONTH CHART. IM GUESSING THIS WILL HAPPEN ON DECEMBER 24TH... AND THEN WE WILL LIKELY SEE THE NEW WEB SITE UP TO SUPPORT A MUCH BIGGER MOVE. WE ARE ENTERING EXCITING TIMES HERE! MACH
Playing Mogul
By JONATHAN DEE
Published: December 21, 2003
Globally, the industry earned $28 billion in 2002, and in the United States, it's growing at around 20 percent a year. According to Fortune magazine, Americans will spend more time playing video games this year -- about 75 hours on average -- than watching rented videos and DVD's. A nationwide survey found that the percentage of last year's college students who had ever played video games was 100. Two games from the industry leader Electronic Arts, Madden NFL Football and FIFA Soccer, have each earned in excess of a billion dollars. (This year's Madden edition made more than $200 million alone.) For new and established musicians alike, games are the new radio; landing a spot on a video-game soundtrack is arguably more prestigious than landing a similar spot in a movie, a function not just of sales figures but also of the fact that the average Madden NFL 2004 buyer, for instance, will spend 100 hours in front of the game. Each statistic is more mind-boggling than the last, and together they certainly pose a challenge to conventional wisdom about which of these media is the tail and which is the dog.
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach, remember, this is big, the BIG of the BIG, a mean the BIGGEST!!!, i forgot how to write BIG!!, i mean this is BIG AND HOT.
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*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
According to Fortune magazine, Americans will spend more time playing video games this year -- about 75 hours on average -- than watching rented videos and DVD's.
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
Remember, this industry is way to hot, i am going to repost this from last night...Playing Mogul
By JONATHAN DEEPublished: December 21, 2003
Globally, the industry earned $28 billion in 2002, and in the United States, it's growing at around 20 percent a year. According to Fortune magazine, Americans will spend more time playing video games this year -- about 75 hours on average -- than watching rented videos and DVD's. A nationwide survey found that the percentage of last year's college students who had ever played video games was 100. Two games from the industry leader Electronic Arts, Madden NFL Football and FIFA Soccer, have each earned in excess of a billion dollars. (This year's Madden edition made more than $200 million alone.) For new and established musicians alike, games are the new radio; landing a spot on a video-game soundtrack is arguably more prestigious than landing a similar spot in a movie, a function not just of sales figures but also of the fact that the average Madden NFL 2004 buyer, for instance, will spend 100 hours in front of the game. Each statistic is more mind-boggling than the last, and together they certainly pose a challenge to conventional wisdom about which of these media is the tail and which is the dog.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Mav... a little excited today... A little caffine overdose... I agree with you... and yes... there is considerable buying today.. and yes it will likely be Bullish for some time to come... but personally... would rather see a nice slow walk to the .04's where we build that base for the "Big Breakout". mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach, remember, this is big, the BIG of the BIG, a mean the BIGGEST!!!, i forgot how to write BIG!!, i mean this is BIG AND HOT.
So much DD going on, so many good points, there is a lot going for us.
I am VERY HAPPY I'm in...haha
w00t to us guys... baby steps to .04's would be great, like you said that would create a nice floor for us hopefully!
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Yes... this is the article I've been looking for... It is important to not that people will play video games much more than watching DVD's. We certainly have the perfect Service... don't we.*** Future's so Bright ***
machAccording to Fortune magazine, Americans will spend more time playing video games this year -- about 75 hours on average -- than watching rented videos and DVD's.
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Originally posted by PSU90:
LOL Mav! Glad you found a computer today!
10/30/2003 12:22:22 PM | Industry |
Computer and Video Game Industry Raises more than $850,000 for America's Kids
The U.S. computer and video game industry raised more than $850,000 to benefit America's children last week at the ESA Foundation's annual "Nite to Unite - For Kids" benefit dinner held in San Francisco and through an online public auction held in conjunction with eBay.
"This is an event we look forward to each year as our industry comes together to support America’s children," said Douglas Lowenstein, president of the Entertainment Software Association (ESA), the trade group representing U.S. computer and video game publishers. "While people of all ages now play games, our industry owes its initial success to kids and “Nite to Unite” gives us an opportunity to support the charities and programs that will secure and improve their futures."
Attendees of last night's dinner bid on a variety of items that ranged from autographed memorabilia, wine and trips to France. This year, the funds raised by the ESA Foundation will benefit the Starbright Foundation, WAVE, the Starlight Children’s Foundation and Web Wise Kids.
Jeff Griffiths, President and CEO of Electronic Boutiques Holding Corp., was honored with the ESA's Champion Award, given annually to a member of the interactive entertainment industry in recognition of outstanding service and contributions to the industry. Griffiths’ vision and commitment have helped build Electronics Boutique into one of the most successful global specialty retail chains in the business. In turn, Electronics Boutique’s innovations have helped foster electronic gaming as a way of life for millions of consumers, paving the way for the growth of the entire interactive entertainment industry.
This year's "Nite to Unite" dinner was co-chaired by: Laurent Detoc, President, Ubi Soft Entertainment Inc.; Rob Dyer, President, Eidos Interactive; and Jacqualee Story, Executive Vice President, Business Affairs, Nintendo of America, Inc.
Following is brief background on the dinner beneficiaries.
Web Wise Kids - WWK uses a computer game to teach children about Internet safety and luring. This will be the third year the ESA Foundation has supported Web Wise Kids. For more information see http://www.webwisekids.org.
WAVE -WAVE programs help children who have or are thinking of dropping out of school. The programs seek to train dropouts for the work force and provide GED tutoring and an alternative school classroom atmosphere and support services to discourage potential drop outs. Additional information can be found at http://www.waveinc.org.
The STARBRIGHT Foundation - Starbright is dedicated to the development of projects that empower seriously ill children to combat the medical and emotional challenges they face on a daily basis. ESA Foundation funds will support the Webisodes project which assists youths (aged 12-17) in coping with cancer and chemotherapy. Additional information can be found at http://www.starbright.org.
The Starlight Children’s Foundation – The Starlight Children’s Foundation is an international non-profit organization dedicated to improving the quality of life for seriously ill children and their families. ESA Foundation funds will be supporting the Starlight Teen program which seeks to provide seriously ill teenagers, who are unable to participate in typical teen activities due to their illness, opportunities to interact with peers through social activities. Additional information can be found at: http://www.starlight.org.
The ESA Foundation was created by the American interactive entertainment software industry to support and provide opportunities that can make a difference in the lives of America’s youth. The Foundation is fully supported by proceeds from “A Nite to Unite—for Kids,” its annual fund-raiser that has raised more than more than $6.4 million in the last five years. The Foundation has provided grants to support: Web Wise Kids; Boys and Girls Clubs of America; Delinquency Prevention Initiative - Year three; Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation; Just Think Foundation; YouthVision Challenge; Mothers Against Violence in America's Students Against Violence Everywhere (SAVE) project; and the expansion of the Boys & Girls Clubs of Oakland Computer Learning Center. The event also has become one of the most anticipated events in the industry. The Entertainment Software Association is the U.S. association dedicated to serving the business and public affairs needs of companies publishing interactive games for video game consoles, handheld devices, personal computers, and the Internet.
Computer and Video Game Industry Raises more than $850,000 for America's Kids
How To Break Into Video Game Industry - Austin Conference
Posted on Friday, December 12 2003 @ 13:05:45 EST by christina
The Game Initiative today announced a new conference designed for students and professionals eager to get a job in the computer and video game industry. "How To Break Into Video Game Industry: Mini-Conference, Resume Workshop and Job Fair" will take place January 31, 2004 in San Francisco. The event is designed for artists, programmers and designers looking to get into the business. Attendees will have the opportunity to speak with industry insiders, including top recruiter Mary-Margaret.com, hiring managers from local game companies as well as network and meet with industry veterans. Alias, the world's leading innovator of 3D graphics technology, is lead sponsor of the event.
"The comprehensive program will provide an overview of the industry, identify technology trends and requirements as well as the qualifications and skill-sets that are in demand," said Christopher Sherman, Game Initiative Executive Director. "The casual nature of this event allows attendees an unprecedented opportunity to interact with industry veterans, ask questions, gain valuable contacts and understand the business." . .
Students will learn how to build an early professional road map to a career in the game industry. Professionals looking to move into the business from other industries will learn how their experience and transferable skills can gain rapid entry into this industry. The event will also provide a great opportunity for local companies to meet potential new talent.
How To Break Into Video Game Industry - Agenda
8:30am - 9:00am Registration and Networking
9:00am - 9:45am Industry Overview
10:00am - 10:45am Getting in at the Ground Floor
11:00am - 12:00pm Applying Transferable Skill Sets
12:00pm - 1:30pm Networking
1:30pm - 3:00pm Resume Workshop
The cost is $35 in advance or $45 at the door. The event takes place at the 600 Townsend Building located in the South of Market Area at the corner of 7th and Townsend Streets in San Francisco. Registration is available online at http://www.TheGameInitiative.com
How To Break Into Video Game Industry attendees will:
Find out what employers are looking for now and in the future
Learn how the game development pipeline works
Receive an overview of the industry and where it's headed
Understand the core competencies required in art, programming and design
Meet and network with professionals in the industry
Participate in a resume workshop designed to gain them critical interviews with hiring managers.
"How To Break Into Video Game Industry" is managed by the staff that produced widely acclaimed Austin Game Conference in September and the Austin Game Breakin in November. The Game Initiative – http://www.TheGameInitiative.com - was spun out of the Austin Game Initiative (AGI) to focus on producing leading game industry events worldwide.
About The Game Initiative
The Game Initiative is chartered with the growth of the computer and video game industry by serving the needs of companies involved in producing interactive entertainment software and hardware for video game consoles, handheld devices, personal computers and the Internet. The Game Initiative was spun out of the Austin Game Initiative (AGI), an organization focused on supporting the game development industry in Austin, Texas. Austin is the # 3 location in the U.S. for game development with more than 50 companies making major contributions to the game industry, including game development, publishing, tools and middleware and chips and hardware. The AGI produces The Austin Game Conference which will take place September 9-10, 2004. More information about the Game Initiative can be found at http://www.TheGameInitiative.com.
The name The Game Initiative is a trademark of Austin Game Initiative.
As for PGHI.....you amaze me with the amount of industry news you are digging up! Thank you!
It's too bad I can't fly out there for the conference, that is right up my alley!!
i started this post an hour ago and have had non stop interuptions since to give you an idea of what is going on for me. i'm glad to see pghi doing it's thing and calming some of the doubt. i hope many of you took advantage of the 20's and loaded up. i sure did.
robin, hi and thanks. thanks to all for the positive feedback. robin, ms mullet takes one look at the multiple number laden windows and tells me she is glad i see something in them as they are greek to her.
is there a post office near the ky location? with today's internet based business it is a whole new frontier and traditional "location location location" business models are being reinvented as we discuss this and other stocks. we all probably know people who run successful small internet businesses from their homes. the whole e bay concept has spawned countless businesses. a good website, the promt physical filling of orders and the shipping is the key. the rest is done with computers. since we are talking about cds here and not televisions and microwave ovens, allot can be done in a small humble building. the netflix location in tacoma is a good example. i like the idea that pghi is keeping the costs down to start.
wow, three more interuptions!!! better post this while i have a chance.
uncle milty
ALSO
I am so dang tired from not being able to sleep I have to go back to bed, however I have contacted the Zoning office for Franklin KY. They are checking on the address to see if its comercial or residential. I don't know if it matters either way, but I would still like to know. I have to call her back 11:00am Pacific time, 1:00pm central, or 2:00pm Eastern.....but I will be sleeping...I have to go to work tonight....anyone want to call and get the info...alls you have to do is give her the address again and say someone called previous.....The town has a population of 7,000....so I don't think you will have a problem with her not remembering.....the number is 270-586-3356
Just tell her your following up a call about the zoning for the cornor of Blackjack road and Ditmore Rd
Any takers
quote:
Originally posted by EDDIE138301:
Hey guys,
what is the symbol being traded here. just woke up and seeing activity here. Thanks.
Is there any way to "edit" the title of this thread to include the ticker name (PGHI)? It's just a thought..
FlyWolf
quote:
Originally posted by FlyWolf:
Mach,Is there any way to "edit" the title of this thread to include the ticker name (PGHI)? It's just a thought..
FlyWolf
A good thought at that...
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
You wouldn't think it would be so hard to contact someone about the private placement. I have left two messages and 2 e-mails and have yet to get any info. They say they are going to call me back in less then 10 mins....lets see.ALSO
I am so dang tired from not being able to sleep I have to go back to bed, however I have contacted the Zoning office for Franklin KY. They are checking on the address to see if its comercial or residential. I don't know if it matters either way, but I would still like to know. I have to call her back 11:00am Pacific time, 1:00pm central, or 2:00pm Eastern.....but I will be sleeping...I have to go to work tonight....anyone want to call and get the info...alls you have to do is give her the address again and say someone called previous.....The town has a population of 7,000....so I don't think you will have a problem with her not remembering.....the number is 270-586-3356Just tell her your following up a call about the zoning for the cornor of Blackjack road and Ditmore Rd
Any takers
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Originally posted by tommy:
BetNitAll, you got that confirmation from whom? John Fleming (ceo)?
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Originally posted by raven76:
Congrats to everybody held strong during the pullback..And congrats to people who took action and advantage of the situation and bought @ around .027 instead of whining that the price was going down..
R we having fun yet????
GL
Well if 814 Blackjack Rd, Franklin, KY 42134 is your reference address and if north of this location is residential 1535 Blackjack Road is in a residential area. Right?
This all just too speculative. Satellite images, road maps, blah blah blah, I have really spun out of control. For all I know not any of this information is accurate.
This is DD, but really how good is it? My excitement has blurred the reality when it comes to all this research and what not. -
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Response to BetNitAll:Well if 814 Blackjack Rd, Franklin, KY 42134 is your reference address and if north of this location is residential 1535 Blackjack Road is in a residential area. Right?
This all just too speculative. Satellite images, road maps, blah blah blah, I have really spun out of control. For all I know not any of this information is accurate.
This is DD, but really how good is it? My excitement has blurred the reality when it comes to all this research and what not. -
By the way...private placement is trying to raise 1.5 million dollars. Minimum investment is $5,000 and the share price will be %50 of the last three closes. However, it will not go under .02
The guy kinda sounded like he was reading from a scrip, almost like a telemarketer
Does anyone else notice how Kc says cheers at the end of his messages....is that you John
Well I am off to bed....good luck everyone
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Originally posted by kcbudman:
In less then 24 hours, I will see it allfor myself, and you willknow shortly there after....Cheers, what a great day!!
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TriggerFingers Ports The NetFlix Online Rental Model to Games
Aug 13, 2003 (Electronic Gaming Business/PBI Media via COMTEX) -- The gaming gold rush has officially begun. Now that the big story is abroad, that gaming is a multibillion-dollar industry poised for double-digit annual growth, there is no shortage of entrepreneurs pitching new business models around America's happy gaming addiction. To wit: TriggerFingers, a Web- based game rental store started by brothers Matt and Chris Twogood on the profits they made from selling their machine shop last year.
"We decided we needed to do something different...or more fun," says Matt. Which was TriggerFingers, whose subscribers pay between $14.95 and $29.95 a month to borrow between two and five console games at a time via mail. Mimicking the very successful NetFlix model for renting DVDs for unlimited periods, TriggerFingers lets users keep the titles for as long as they remain members. When they reach the maximum number of games their membership tier allows them to have out at a time, the users must send an older title back to get a new one.
Based in Colorado, the Twogoods have 600 unique titles in their warehouse, with 15 to 20 copies of the more popular games. If a member requests a title that is not in, he is placed in a queue so that he is in line to receive the next available copy that comes back to the warehouse. Like NetFlix, TriggerFingers uses the U.S. mail, and tries to send orders out on the day they are made at the site, so that highly popular titles may never even make it back onto the shelves. Nevertheless, Matt Twogood has some of the same issues with the game rental model as video stores, which find that game inventory is simply more costly than equivalent DVD stocks. "The games are very expensive, both to purchase and to warehouse," he says.
For now, TriggerFingers buys its titles wholesale from Ingram and Jack of All Games, just like most independent video and game shops. Twogood has no direct relationships with publishers as yet, though Sammy Studios (Guilty Gear, Lethal Skies) has contacted the company about discussing partnerships.
A Workable Model?
If TriggerFingers and other similar attempts at porting the NetFlix model to games (NumbThumb.com, VeeGeez.com, and others) are to succeed, they must first convince game publishers to stop selling the renters games and instead share in the revenues. NetFlix only started making money when the company partnered directly with studios, who charged little to nothing for the DVDs the company sent out and instead took a share in the rental fees. That is the only way for companies like these to keep their inventory costs and risk on slow moving titles reasonable.
For now, and as a two man operation, the Twogoods say they estimate a break-even point at 400 subscribers, and after a few months of operation they have between 50 and 60. The bulk of the subscribers came only within the last few weeks, as TriggerFingers' new PR firm issued press releases and got coverage in The Denver Post. The site gets 25,000 hits a month, suggesting a lot of window shopping.
Small as that may seem, there is some interest among a niche of gamers for this model, and it could conceivably be marketed effectively to a couple of constituencies. For rabid gamers who need to play just about everything, this is a model that lets them do so. It could also function much like the cult video film market, which has numerous vendors working through mail order and the Web. Fans of Japanese games and hard-to-find vintage games could latch onto Web-based libraries like these, which might have specialty areas of obscure and foreign titles.
The hardcore gamer, who generally needs to have his new games at or near release, may always have a problem with mail order, which is one reason online game sales have never taken off. Twogood, who also sells games, reports that he has sold very few titles outright. Moreover, games arriving as expected has quickly become the most common issue for his customer support. Being in Denver, TriggerFingers shipments usually take a few days to reach most destinations already, and the company is considering trying priority shipping. The Brothers Twogood are beginning to discover what consumers want from this sort of service - generally timely deliveries and accurate information about what titles are becoming available and when.
Another twist on this model might be rent-to-own. If members keep the same game out for an extended period, Triggerfingers offers them a buy-out option so that they can keep the title. Only open since February, and with only one taker of the offer, TriggerFingers has limited experience with this idea, but it may be worth considering for game rentals at all venues. If price remains one of gamers' universal concerns about gaming, then experiments like these are worth monitoring.
Ultimately, online rentals will most likely be a niche play at best, but it could also be an interesting laboratory for testing new pricing models, marketing older game titles, and marketing to narrower audience segments.
Contacts: Matt and Chris Twogood, 303/755-1522
[Copyright 2003 PBI Media, LLC. All rights reserved.]
Electronic Gaming Business, Vol. 1, No. 9 [Copyright 2003 PBI Media, LLC. All rights reserved.]
Copyright 2003 PBI Media, LLC. All rights reserved.
His answer was that 1500's are residential..
GL
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Is this where the new corprate office is. This is all commercial. North of here is residential though.
http://mapsonus.switchboard.com/bin/maps-maponly/usr=~3fe73912.2d3bb .428f.5/c=1/refsrc=SB.newsb/isredir=1/
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&th=be32fce81cb913b7&rnum=3
quote:
Originally posted by raven76:
Bet,
for me it's not going to make any difference..But I also wanted learn the answer of this..So I called Papa John's Pizza on 828 N Main St..( pretty close)These guys should have been delivering pizzas to this area..His answer was that 1500's are residential..
GL
"Anyone care to recommend or warn me of any
Game Rental sites you have used?
I used to use AngelGamer but the games started to
take nearly a week to travel to me while only ever
2-3 days to get back. So I am looking at either a new
rental place or going back to AngelGamer (perhaps they
have speed up some since Nov)
thanks
Wayne"
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Originally posted by adrenalix:
here are some opinions for people who have actually used the Veegeez.com service and their competitors.
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr= &ie=UTF-8&edition=us&th=c87847743e12908f&seekm=vu1e1ik2rcrn54%40news.supernews.com&frame=off
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&th=b558e6d874a05a93&rnum =4http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&th=be32fce81cb913b7&rnum =3
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I just verified that new website will not be up by the end of year. They are thinking of a press release, becasuse the exact date is known. However, they are cautious becasue it has been delayed twice already
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Can someone versed in placing the web banner please place the banner on the attached Video Game News Web Site Forum! I think it will help us market Veegeez... Of course you might want to include a message. Thanks for your help! mach
http://videogamenews.us/forum/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=c0ce9ac5eb98d27ca50b0efbdb069285
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Still hoping one of our board members that know how to place banners can place a Veegeez banner on this board. Just trying to contribute to our marketing campaign. Thanks for your help. mach
[This message has been edited by machtabow2 (edited December 22, 2003).]
-moose-
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Still hoping one of our board members that know how to place banners can place a Veegeez banner on this board. Just trying to contribute to our marketing campaign. Thanks for your help. mach
[This message has been edited by machtabow2 (edited December 22, 2003).]
we could submit it that way, or even on the boards. The article would say that a new website will be opening soon at www.gamezNflix.com and blah blah blah
we could post the banner for Veegeez and everything too. Someone who is good at writing a thing like this... which == not me..haha
I could go post the article at various places though.
~Marc
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Looking good here moving into the close. We are at .035X.036... with only 2 MM left at .036.. Next MM at .04... Will we get a strong finish? Strong possibility. Looking good! Remember MACD bullish crossover likely to occur on December 24th... Bulls will have seized complete control here. mach
As far as marketing Veegeez goes... I think the following link designed by Betn summarizes the important points. Someone may desire to elaborate.
Now if you are looking for other investors... you could use my original post at the beginning of this thread and make subtle modifications... adding some additional detail to it. mach
www.onlinevideogamerental.com
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Originally posted by Marcidius:
What if someone would type up a small blurb in the form of a news segment, so some of us could go around to Gaming sites and see if they have a submit news section...we could submit it that way, or even on the boards. The article would say that a new website will be opening soon at www.gamezNflix.com and blah blah blah
we could post the banner for Veegeez and everything too. Someone who is good at writing a thing like this...
I could go post the article at various places though.
~Marc
On September 26, 2003 Point Group Holdings Inc. (OTC BB: PGHI) announced that it had successfully acquired Veegeez.com, LLC of Santa Clarita, CA, an online video game rental company. Veegeez.com provides its subscribers video game rentals via the Internet similar to how NetFlix.com provides DVD's to its customers.
On December 11, 2003, Point Group Holdings Inc. filed form PRE-14C with the US SEC. The PRE-14C is essentially a petition by the company's board of directors to amend the Articles of Incorporation of the Company to change the name of the Company to "GamezNFlix, Inc." The Company received the consent of a majority of the outstanding shares of Common Stock of the Company for this action under a definitive Proxy Statement filed on November 20, 2003. An Information Statement describing this action will be sent on or about December 15, 2003 to the Company's stockholders of record who have not been solicited for their consent of this corporate action.
On December 9, 2003 Point Group Holdings, Inc. announced that its corporate headquarters is relocating from San Diego, California, to Franklin, Kentucky. The move is scheduled to take place during the last weeks of December. The relocation is part of the planned opening of PGHI's (soon to be GamezNFlix Inc.) subsidiary VeeGeeZ.com. The addition of the new distribution center for VeeGeeZ in Franklin, Kentucky will provide the company with distribution centers on both the east and west coasts of the United States. In support of the “Bi-Coastal Distribution Centers” VeeGeeZ has a focused effort to increase its online inventory and recently announced that inventory was increased by 37 percent.
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC announced previously that it has signed a contract with Venture Direct Worldwide of New York to handle its online marketing campaign. The experienced staff of Venture Direct Worldwide and VeeGeeZ management has developed a marketing plan to assist the company in moving to the next level. Venture Direct's Online Services Group offers a comprehensive range of media, including online lead generation, co-registration, contextual advertising and other web based ad formats, opt-in email, search marketing, and other customized online opportunities, backed by 10 years of online marketing experience, and more than 20 years of direct marketing industry leadership. The agreement with Venture Direct Worldwide for marketing represents an important step forward in the execution of our business model and I look forward to seeing good results.
On October 28th, 2003 VeeGeeZ.com, LLC awarded its new website design to Roy Vella, Web & Print Design Service (www.RoyVella.com). "The signing of this contract represents another phase of VeeGeeZ.com's business plan to provide enhanced services to its customers. In addition, the new design will not only meet our current video game rental customer base it will setup our expansion into the DVD rental world". I anticipate that the new website will be launched late in December 2003.
I believe that with the addition of a second distribution center on the east coast (New Company Headquarters), continued growth in video game inventory along with the successful launch of a US marketing campaign and website interface, that the company has made major steps toward implementing its’ business plan and to add shareholder value.
quote:
Originally posted by Marcidius:
What if someone would type up a small blurb in the form of a news segment, so some of us could go around to Gaming sites and see if they have a submit news section...we could submit it that way, or even on the boards. The article would say that a new website will be opening soon at www.gamezNflix.com and blah blah blah
we could post the banner for Veegeez and everything too. Someone who is good at writing a thing like this...
I could go post the article at various places though.
~Marc
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
So... it sounds like Veegeez is considering a PR possibly next week to update us on the website release and give us a release date? That should be pretty exciting.... May give us a little boost. Looking forward to that. mach
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
Mach there are only 2 MM @0.036 left after that is 0.04, huge jump, isn't it ?.
seems like there is already a gumshoe squad on the scent. i loved the pizza connection. lots of smart resourceful people here. i wish i had more time and another computer to be more a part of the forensic fun here.
uncle milty
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Mike,
The Url will stay the same. PGHI is changing their name to Gameznflix, not
VeeGeeZ.
The site will function exactly the same. There will be improvement make
things seem easier to use and understand. We will add some new feature along
with the new site as well like gift subscriptions and paid email referrals.
The new site will launch in a few weeks. You should experience no downtime.
The site will be fully built and tested on a separate server. When it is
complete, it will only take a few minutes to upload the files. We will do
this one night very late when few people are on the site.
I'm sorry I don't have a date. I actually don't know when it will be done.
We do have the overall look and fell and functionality of the site done. We
are now working on the secondary pages and the account and sign up process
pages.
Happy Holidays
Lance Wiseman
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC
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-moose-
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
Below is a response to one of my e-mails...---
Mike,The Url will stay the same. PGHI is changing their name to Gameznflix, not
VeeGeeZ.The site will function exactly the same. There will be improvement make
things seem easier to use and understand. We will add some new feature along
with the new site as well like gift subscriptions and paid email referrals.The new site will launch in a few weeks. You should experience no downtime.
The site will be fully built and tested on a separate server. When it is
complete, it will only take a few minutes to upload the files. We will do
this one night very late when few people are on the site.I'm sorry I don't have a date. I actually don't know when it will be done.
We do have the overall look and fell and functionality of the site done. We
are now working on the secondary pages and the account and sign up process
pages.Happy Holidays
Lance Wiseman
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC
----moose-
quote:
Originally posted by white93860:
I'm assuming it means you would get credit towards your account for referring new clients.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Moose, was that email from today?
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Moose, was that email from today?
Tommy, I think Moose posted that awhile ago as it seems vaguely familar to me. I could be wrong...I'll do a search to check.
PSU
1. File a Prelim Proxy (Pre 14a) -- Done
2. Followed by a Definitive Proxy Filing (Def 14a) -- Done
3. Followed by a Prelim Information Statement Filing (Pre 14c) -- Done
Still to be done:
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4. Followed by a Definitive Information Statement Filing (Def 14c)
5. Followed by a mailing by our Transfer Agent to shareholders of record
6. Followed by the actual name change
7. Followed by Request for a new CUSIP#
8. Followed by a Request for a new trading symbol
9. Followed by the symbol being granted.
Yes, the email I received was on Dec. 17. The way I received it:
Tommaso,
The new site will not be ready for a couple more weeks. I don’t know exactly. As soon as it is done and fully tested, we will post it. That preview you saw was very old and only a test Roy sent me, kind of like a resume. It was only to show me what kind of work he can do. It does not represent the final look of the website.
PGHI will change their name to Gameznflix. VeeGeeZ will remain VeeGeeZ.
Happy Holidays
Lance Wiseman
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Good question Tommy. Moose? PBwizard received an email last week that said the web site would likely be up within two weeks... from last week. Curiosity. My expectation is that the web site release itself should create quite the buying frenzy i the market. Also would like to know what the status of the name change is if anyone has any information. Thanks again. mach
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
As soon as they file the definitive 14c and send out the info to the shareholders, it will be considered done.1. File a Prelim Proxy (Pre 14a) -- Done
2. Followed by a Definitive Proxy Filing (Def 14a) -- Done
3. Followed by a Prelim Information Statement Filing (Pre 14c) -- DoneStill to be done:
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4. Followed by a Definitive Information Statement Filing (Def 14c)
5. Followed by a mailing by our Transfer Agent to shareholders of record
6. Followed by the actual name change
7. Followed by Request for a new CUSIP#
8. Followed by a Request for a new trading symbol
9. Followed by the symbol being granted.
quote:
Originally posted by pbwizard:
machYes, the email I received was on Dec. 17. The way I received it:
Tommaso,
The new site will not be ready for a couple more weeks. I don’t know exactly. As soon as it is done and fully tested, we will post it. That preview you saw was very old and only a test Roy sent me, kind of like a resume. It was only to show me what kind of work he can do. It does not represent the final look of the website.
PGHI will change their name to Gameznflix. VeeGeeZ will remain VeeGeeZ.
Happy Holidays
Lance Wiseman
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Well I'm getting indication's that this will likely occur during the first week of January after reading all these various emails. Now that's not too far away at all. mach
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Thanks Tommy... Just wondering how soon that might be. Curiosity... mach
About the zoning. When I asked the city about the zoning I was told that there was no way to find out if an exact address was residential or commercial....its all just a gestimate...gestimate is my own word...
Plus as I said before, the corporate office is not the same as the distribution center, the distribution center was going to be located in the Franklin area. Maybe they are waiting to raise more funds or maybe they have not gotten that far as to rent a small warehouse (store front, they only need a couple thousand square feet). I hope Kc has good news for us.
I still believe that someone is going to make a lot of money in this industry….and I hope its us……One things for sure…..its all up to John. I will be excited to talk to him, if I ever get the chance. I have a lot of questions I think we all would like the answers to.
BY THE WAY. WE ARE ALL ROOTING FOR OAKLAND TONIGHT. GO OAKLAND
That way Seattle has a great chance of making the playoffs.
I got this e-mail today.
I really wish Lance would put down customer sevice or something instead of his name. As we all can see, he is the only one responding to all the emails. LOL
The new site will be up in a few weeks. We will have gift subscriptions. Buying games will follow soon after that.
Happy Holidays
Lance Wiseman
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC
As was mentioned above, PGHI (Point Group Holdings) will be renamed to GamezNFlix, but VeeGeez will stay VeeGeez.
So what does that mean for the DVD rental side of things? Obviously, you probably are not going to rent movies from a company with a name like VeeGeez which implies Video Games. Are they going to start a separate site down the road, or what's the plan?
I thought that this was going to be all in one, but maybe I was mistaken.
Either way, I think the video game rental is the niche market to get a good start with, but movies are a bigger market share.
#1 http://users.adelphia.net/~x1f2/
#2 http://www.video-game-rentals.us/
#3 http://hostingprod.com/@onlinevideogamerental.com/
Just tring to keep up with the ad sites and creat links to promote VeeGeeZ.com.
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quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Mach if you look at the time between the pre 14a and def 14a were filed, it will give you a good indication as to when the def 14c will be filed. To my calculation it should be about a few days from now.
I was told by equitlink (sp?) that date for the new site is already known and they were thinking of a PR, however they are being cautious because it was delayed twice before.
quote:
Originally posted by pbwizard:
I've been working hard on some new projects that I have missed some pages. Has anyone else put up any new ad site? Besides the three I already now of.#1 http://users.adelphia.net/~x1f2/
#2 http://www.video-game-rentals.us/
#3 http://hostingprod.com/@onlinevideogamerental.com/Just tring to keep up with the ad sites and creat links to promote VeeGeeZ.com.
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
My domain is finaly up..its www.OnlineVideoGameRental.comI was told by equitlink (sp?) that date for the new site is already known and they were thinking of a PR, however they are being cautious because it was delayed twice before.
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I just verified that new website will not be up by the end of year. They are thinking of a press release, becasuse the exact date is known. However, they are cautious becasue it has been delayed twice already
Here it is......Thanks BetNitAll
quote:
Originally posted by RedBullish:
QUESTION concerning company operations.As was mentioned above, PGHI (Point Group Holdings) will be renamed to GamezNFlix, but VeeGeez will stay VeeGeez.
So what does that mean for the DVD rental side of things? Obviously, you probably are not going to rent movies from a company with a name like VeeGeez which implies Video Games. Are they going to start a separate site down the road, or what's the plan?
I thought that this was going to be all in one, but maybe I was mistaken.
Either way, I think the video game rental is the niche market to get a good start with, but movies are a bigger market share.
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
My domain is finaly up..its www.OnlineVideoGameRental.comI was told by equitlink (sp?) that date for the new site is already known and they were thinking of a PR, however they are being cautious because it was delayed twice before.
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
My domain is finaly up..its www.OnlineVideoGameRental.comI was told by equitlink (sp?) that date for the new site is already known and they were thinking of a PR, however they are being cautious because it was delayed twice before.
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
By this conversation and the fact that the web site is near completion... yes I would expect a PR very soon... and then the final Site launch. Makes sense to me. With something this big... they do need to keep the shareholders in the loop. mach
Breakout above 10D Moving Average- Very Bullish
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MACD fast line crosses back over 0, about to cross over slow line- Very bullish
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Stokes are showing an upwards trend/accumulation- nice
Didn't catch and MM singals today, I'll have to go through the time&sales on freerealtime and see.
Strong base at .03, weak base at .034
Hoping to get in for some more tomorrow around .033 if possible.
Where do u get this chart?
Thanks
SCS
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
[b] Point Group Holdings 3 Month Chart
Breakout above 10D Moving Average- Very Bullish
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MACD fast line crosses back over 0, about to cross over slow line- Very bullish
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Stokes are showing an upwards trend/accumulation- niceDidn't catch and MM singals today, I'll have to go through the time&sales on freerealtime and see.
Strong base at .03, weak base at .034
Hoping to get in for some more tomorrow around .033 if possible.[/B]
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Moose, was that email from today?
quote:
Originally posted by scs005:
cabbage22:Where do u get this chart?
Thanks
SCS
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
Yep it was from today...if it does seem familiar it is because I sent practically the same e-mail to them about 2 weeks ago
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Thanks Moose, I guess that the "in a few weeks" line is the standard response that they give to everyone so that they don't get caught delivering false promises but realistically it could be any day! IMO
************
Can the PR firm make sure that the PR release does actually reach the market through the various news streamers. The last PR was only available to those whom actually "looked" for it. Thanks for your help. mach
**************
The more people that bring this to his attention... the better. We have the opportunity to see a 30-40 million volume day and/or days with a likely breakout above .05 to .10 and beyond with the introduction of the new site. imho mach
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mach
quote:
Originally posted by blackice318:
Yep
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The more people that bring this to his attention... the better. We have the opportunity to see a 30-40 million volume day and/or days with a likely breakout above .05 to .10 and beyond with the introduction of the new site. imho mach
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A BREAKOUT would likely occur BETWEEN DECEMBER 23RD AND JANUARY 15TH.
A breakout in this particular situation means BEYOND .05. We have traded there already on generally light volume...
The RELEASE OF THE NEW VEEGEEZ SITE is important to the market. It signals that the COMPANY IS MOVING FORWARD and will begin to focus on GROWING THE SUBSCRIBER BASE.
Keep in mind that as per the post by Betn today... Netflix started exactly the same way... 1000 customers and within a few years had literally hundreds of thousands of customers. We are in stage 1... and knowing and understanding the video game market as described in your previous messages... I know that we have CONSIDERABLE OPPORTUNITY!
Further... once the new site is released and corporate name change is complete... we will be the ONLY PUBLICLY TRADED ONLINE GAME RENTAL COMPANY. Is this BIG! This is very BIG!
With the TECHS TURNING BULLISH NOW and the NEW WEB SITE LAUNCH and CORPORATE NAME CHANGE COMPLETION, my expectation is EXPLOSIVE VOLUME. Volume that will break us through .05 to .10 AND BEYOND! The VOLUME WILL HAPPEN... the MOVE WILL HAPPEN... You better be EXCITED! We are on the GROUND FLOOR... and that OPPORTUNITY does not happen often! imho mach
Ok now that I got that out of my system. Calm... Calm... Relax... ahhh...
*** The Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
Mach... I have been looking at my charts and techs and this situation based on my previous analysis could happen any time soon now. But i would like you to elaborate a little more on the 0.1 breakout?. Thank you.
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The more people that bring this to his attention... the better. We have the opportunity to see a 30-40 million volume day and/or days with a likely breakout above .05 to .10 and beyond with the introduction of the new site. imho mach***
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I also remember BetNit or someone had talked to Equitilink about a re-release of the last PR. Nothing came of that either.
Hope the next one gets full coverage.
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
To all those whom may email John Fleming on a regular basis. Can you please include the following discussion in your next email with respect to PR releases.************
Can the PR firm make sure that the PR release does actually reach the market through the various news streamers. The last PR was only available to those whom actually "looked" for it. Thanks for your help. mach
**************
The more people that bring this to his attention... the better. We have the opportunity to see a 30-40 million volume day and/or days with a likely breakout above .05 to .10 and beyond with the introduction of the new site. imho mach
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[This message has been edited by PSU90 (edited December 22, 2003).]
For two months, every single day I would get more and more excited about this stock as I discovered its potential! I'm happy to see that so many people now share that excitement!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
As I indicated on the very first message on this particular thread... A BREAKOUT would likely occur BETWEEN DECEMBER 23RD AND JANUARY 15TH. A breakout in this particular situation means BEYOND .05. We have traded there already on generally light volume... but the RELEASE OF THE NEW VEEGEEZ SITE is important to the market. It signals that the COMPANY IS MOVING FORWARD and will begin to focus on GROWING THE SUBSCRIBER BASE. Keep in mind that as per the post by Betn today... Netflix started exactly the same way... 1000 customers and within a few years had literally hundreds of thousands of customers. We are in stage 1... and knowing and understanding the video game market as described in your previous messages... I know that we have CONSIDERABLE OPPORTUNITY! Further... once the new site is released and corporate name change is complete... we will be the ONLY PUBLICLY TRADED ONLINE GAME RENTAL COMPANY. Is this BIG! This is very BIG! With the TECHS TURNING BULLISH NOW and the NEW WEB SITE LAUNCH and CORPORATE NAME CHANGE COMPLETION, my expectation is EXPLOSIVE VOLUME. Volume that will break us through .05 to .10 AND BEYOND! The VOLUME WILL HAPPEN... the MOVE WILL HAPPEN... You better be EXCITED! We are on the GROUND FLOOR... and that OPPORTUNITY does not happen often! imho machOk now that I got that out of my system. Calm... Calm... Relax... ahhh...
*** The Future's so Bright ***
mach
My group picked up about 900,000 shares in the first couple of hours today. We are in the for the long run so those shares will be frozen for a while.
We will probably pick up a little more as long as we can stay around .035 . After a my trip to Kentucky and a visit we are going in big as long as everything seems to pan out.
Like Mach I don't like to see the value shoot up to fast because it causes too much selling off.
I believe this stock is primed to take off. when it moves ahead we will be placeing orders which will probably double the value.
Hold strong the easy days are just on the horizon.
Ron B.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Hehe Mach, I really like your enthusiasm, you remind me of myself when I bought in at 0.008 two months ago! I have 2M shares and haven't sold one single one of them since then. I used to post big time on the RB board but now I'm more of a lurker. I really like this thread here because there's less nonsense and more DD.For two months, every single day I would get more and more excited about this stock as I discovered its potential! I'm happy to see that so many people now share that excitement!
GLTA!
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Hello allMy group picked up about 900,000 shares in the first couple of hours today. We are in the for the long run so those shares will be frozen for a while.
We will probably pick up a little more as long as we can stay around .035 . After a my trip to Kentucky and a visit we are going in big as long as everything seems to pan out.
Like Mach I don't like to see the value shoot up to fast because it causes too much selling off.
I believe this stock is primed to take off. when it moves ahead we will be placeing orders which will probably double the value.
Hold strong the easy days are just on the horizon.
Ron B.
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Glad to see you here Tommy. I read a ton of your RB posts along the way. I was one of the early buyers here (.006 to .008 range), but I screwed up and let the MM's shake me out on that drop to the .018 range. I'm back in now, but unfortunately not with as big a position as I had in October! Mach knows how bad I feel about that!
It is about time! -
As there was a lot of discussion yesterday about the physical characteristics of the new distribution center, and BetN giving a great description of the Tacoma Netflix facility, I'm planning on taking a ride out tomorrow morning to see what the Boston Netflix dc looks like. Hopefully I'll be able to post a digital image for everybody some time tomorrow afternoon. It's great being on vacation! So much time for PGHI DD!
j160e
Yes, I have a friend who is an English Teacher in South Korea that is opening up an Etrade account to specifically buy PGHI. He went through the entire process and used is US address here in Florida. Hopefully he has it set up to be able to get in below .035 before we move up again.
Looking forward to your DD and research on Netflix. We have quite the growing and loyal shareholder base.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by j160e:
Nice close today. I'm so excited about this stock (mach your not the only one who has to take deep breaths) I just sent another check to my Ameritrade account express mail today. I was tapped but managed to scrape up a little more. Even the wife says go for it!As there was a lot of discussion yesterday about the physical characteristics of the new distribution center, and BetN giving a great description of the Tacoma Netflix facility, I'm planning on taking a ride out tomorrow morning to see what the Boston Netflix dc looks like. Hopefully I'll be able to post a digital image for everybody some time tomorrow afternoon. It's great being on vacation! So much time for PGHI DD!
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by ranger6922:
Hi all just wanted to say that this is one of the best bulletin boards i have ever seen.when a bunch of people get together and do research awsome things happen. i especially liked the reaserch done by using pappa johns as the middle man. AWSOME! i stumbled across pghi by accident doing a stock screen on penny stocks last friday. i was so floored by its the potential. i wired the money to ameritrade this morning and was able to pick it up this afternoon at .036 i would have liked to get in at .03 but why be greedy and miss out on this current move. i will probbably add to it later anyway. in it for the long haul any way. hang on and enjoy the ride.
I'm glad to see that you and your friends have been able to accumulate shares below .035. Great decision. I do look forward to your trip to Kentucky to speak with John. It would certainly be great if you can follow up with our dedicated board members as to the outcome of your conversations. You will certainly have an incredible advantage traveling with your Corporate Lawyer. It's nice to see that we have such a well rounded group of business savy individuals on this thread.
Techs are strengthening considerably and a strong move upward is anticipated here soon... but yes... I would like to see a nice subtle walk up before a breakout beyond .05. As our shareholder base strengthens then the result will be strong stable upward moves and less price swings.
"Even the biggest of waves begins with a single drop..."
Regards,
Mach
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Hello allMy group picked up about 900,000 shares in the first couple of hours today. We are in the for the long run so those shares will be frozen for a while.
We will probably pick up a little more as long as we can stay around .035 . After a my trip to Kentucky and a visit we are going in big as long as everything seems to pan out.
Like Mach I don't like to see the value shoot up to fast because it causes too much selling off.
I believe this stock is primed to take off. when it moves ahead we will be placeing orders which will probably double the value.
Hold strong the easy days are just on the horizon.
Ron B.
Im really glad to see that you are posting more often here than ont he bull.... I personally do not post on the "Bull" as there really is a certain "negative auro" that I would rather not expose myself to on a regular basis.
We have truly developed quite the "Investment Team" here. We have a combination of Intellect, Enthusiasm, and Drive... as you can see... Hope we can maintain this atmosphere as we move forward.
You are a valuable asset here. Knowing that we have strong shareholders such as you holding millions of shares of PGHI is very encouraging and should be very encouraging to the many investors that are still deciding whether or not to make an investment decision here.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Hehe Mach, I really like your enthusiasm, you remind me of myself when I bought in at 0.008 two months ago! I have 2M shares and haven't sold one single one of them since then. I used to post big time on the RB board but now I'm more of a lurker. I really like this thread here because there's less nonsense and more DD.For two months, every single day I would get more and more excited about this stock as I discovered its potential! I'm happy to see that so many people now share that excitement!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
As I indicated on the very first message on this particular thread...A BREAKOUT would likely occur BETWEEN DECEMBER 23RD AND JANUARY 15TH.
A breakout in this particular situation means BEYOND .05. We have traded there already on generally light volume...
The RELEASE OF THE NEW VEEGEEZ SITE is important to the market. It signals that the COMPANY IS MOVING FORWARD and will begin to focus on GROWING THE SUBSCRIBER BASE.
Keep in mind that as per the post by Betn today... Netflix started exactly the same way... 1000 customers and within a few years had literally hundreds of thousands of customers. We are in stage 1... and knowing and understanding the video game market as described in your previous messages... I know that we have CONSIDERABLE OPPORTUNITY!
Further... once the new site is released and corporate name change is complete... we will be the ONLY PUBLICLY TRADED ONLINE GAME RENTAL COMPANY. Is this BIG! This is very BIG!
With the TECHS TURNING BULLISH NOW and the NEW WEB SITE LAUNCH and CORPORATE NAME CHANGE COMPLETION, my expectation is EXPLOSIVE VOLUME. Volume that will break us through .05 to .10 AND BEYOND! The VOLUME WILL HAPPEN... the MOVE WILL HAPPEN... You better be EXCITED! We are on the GROUND FLOOR... and that OPPORTUNITY does not happen often! imho mach
Ok now that I got that out of my system. Calm... Calm... Relax... ahhh...
*** The Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Yes. Welcome to this great thread. Believe it or not... There are some very incredible minds here. When you have time... make sure you read as much as the thread as possible. You will find the DD and confidence of shareholders here to be extremely strong. By the way... what lead you to this particular thread? I'm curious as to how people actually stumble upon this...
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by ranger6922:
Hi all just wanted to say that this is one of the best bulletin boards i have ever seen.when a bunch of people get together and do research awsome things happen. i especially liked the reaserch done by using pappa johns as the middle man. AWSOME! i stumbled across pghi by accident doing a stock screen on penny stocks last friday. i was so floored by its the potential. i wired the money to ameritrade this morning and was able to pick it up this afternoon at .036 i would have liked to get in at .03 but why be greedy and miss out on this current move. i will probbably add to it later anyway. in it for the long haul any way. hang on and enjoy the ride.
I am extremely confident that this man will bring this company to much higher highs than anyone can imagine.I will not sell one share of this stock for at least two years and this is why.I tend to look at the people behind the business because that is the steam that runs the engine,everything else is just a byproduct of that steam.Fleming as shown by his actions is extremely calculated and is a practical thinker and I like that.He chose a business model that is at the core of American society as we know it.It attacks every demographic you can think of,so you have a huge marketplace at your disposal.He does not PR you to death with fluff,which lets you know he is a no nonsense type of guy.When there will be an announcement it will merit much attention.He did not select a plush office but a practical location to streamline the overhead.This shows me that he cares about keeping the business profitable and not worried about his ego.The name change shows the direction of PGHI will be in the entertainment industry.So they are focusing in on their future direction.VeeGeez being the launching pad.He will not release the site until it is 100% to his liking.This shows me that he cares about his product and the image the product will present.Fleming was smart enough not to try and reinvent the wheel.He took the best and duplicated the business model with his own twist.That leads me to believe that he is smart enough to know what works and run with it.I like his thinking process and as a direct result believe in his product.It is my belief that within months of the release of the site and some hard numbers that the Big Money will be in Kentucky knocking on that little warehouse door just begging him to take their Institutionl money.This is not a 100 yard dash for me, this is a long term investment and a hefty one at that so I for one like the smooth gradual step by step growth the stock is taking.
The stock as witnessed by the stockholders on this forum has attracted an unusal group.Everyboby working together for a common cause asking great questions and receiving great answers.I would say that we are all very much in the same mold as Fleming and that makes me believe that we are all headed in the right direction.I have scoured thru many a forum but the effort that is put forth here is something special.
TRSTURGUT-18
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Ranger,Yes. Welcome to this great thread. Believe it or not... There are some very incredible minds here. When you have time... make sure you read as much as the thread as possible. You will find the DD and confidence of shareholders here to be extremely strong. By the way... what lead you to this particular thread? I'm curious as to how people actually stumble upon this...
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
Mach i found this site wile doing a google search on pghi this site was about 5 or 6 pages back in the results from google
Good to see that you got in.
Mach
I did have an order in for 3 million shares and got 900,000. It went up faster than I thought but came to settle at .035. I will regroup tomorrow and try to fill my shares. look for another jump in the price so I would advise everyone to get in with what they can.
My group is going to put up somewhere in the range of one to three million dollars after we get some facts straighten out with JF. This will take place after they have the web site up and have showen more preformance.
At that time it is safer for this kind of money to be placed.
I have ridden in on your shirt tails on this one so soon it will be time for you to ride mine.
Thanks
Ron B.
You are quite the VISIONARY. Successful leaders are visionaries and are forward looking. I do know that you are in fact from Venezuala and are likely anticipating access to Veegeez rentals there in the future. It could happen someday, but may be a few years out. I read an article recently... maybe submitted to the thread by you that stated that NetFlix has had considerations to global growth... but the President also states that in fact they have only tapped a very small segment of the potential in the US market. I believe that we can access just a small portion of that market both in DVD's and Video Games we will make great strides... As I stated in my last post... "Even the Greatest of Waves Begins with a Single Drop" There is much potential and yes someday potential worldwide as Video Games are not privy only to us here in the US.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
Mach ... thanks for your answer. Clearly, i can see your point in the future of this stock as i do. I have been following this one for quite some time and the uptrend pattern is clear (as the future plans for the company) so many wise investors has bought large quantities of shares as of today and most of them are still holding strong for the release of big news and developments soon to happen as we at this board know of. It is not a secret that the video game industry has a fast pace growth, not only in the USA but all over the globe, and honestly I have been reading many news affirming this positive trend in this industry. Now, do you think this kind of endeavors like PGHI (video game rental) could open franchises in different countries ?, It is just a question .....
The price did move up considerably today. I believe that the MM have had difficulty accumulating shares to trade as indicated by the light volume on down days. I do expect a breakout above .05 to occur very soon. As long as we continue to establish a good base. Yes, I would recommend buying partial positions in the low to mid .03's. I learned fast that when you place larger orders... it is sometimes considerably more difficult to fill as this is a .03 cent stock. I personally have accumulated in lots of 50,000 and 100,000 at different prices. With these MM's you need to be very patient. I hope you are able to accumulate more in the morning. MM did signal Friday that they need more shares... I do not believe they have accumlated those shares yet. They may try again tommorrow... which will give you a great opportunity to buy more in the low .03's.
Regards,
Mach
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
RangerGood to see that you got in.
Mach
I did have an order in for 3 million shares and got 900,000. It went up faster than I thought but came to settle at .035. I will regroup tomorrow and try to fill my shares. look for another jump in the price so I would advise everyone to get in with what they can.
My group is going to put up somewhere in the range of one to three million dollars after we get some facts straighten out with JF. This will take place after they have the web site up and have showen more preformance.
At that time it is safer for this kind of money to be placed.
I have ridden in on your shirt tails on this one so soon it will be time for you to ride mine.
Thanks
Ron B.
[This message has been edited by machtabow2 (edited December 22, 2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
Observations of Fleming........I am extremely confident that this man will bring this company to much higher highs than anyone can imagine.I will not sell one share of this stock for at least two years and this is why.I tend to look at the people behind the business because that is the steam that runs the engine,everything else is just a byproduct of that steam.Fleming as shown by his actions is extremely calculated and is a practical thinker and I like that.He chose a business model that is at the core of American society as we know it.It attacks every demographic you can think of,so you have a huge marketplace at your disposal.He does not PR you to death with fluff,which lets you know he is a no nonsense type of guy.When there will be an announcement it will merit much attention.He did not select a plush office but a practical location to streamline the overhead.This shows me that he cares about keeping the business profitable and not worried about his ego.The name change shows the direction of PGHI will be in the entertainment industry.So they are focusing in on their future direction.VeeGeez being the launching pad.He will not release the site until it is 100% to his liking.This shows me that he cares about his product and the image the product will present.Fleming was smart enough not to try and reinvent the wheel.He took the best and duplicated the business model with his own twist.That leads me to believe that he is smart enough to know what works and run with it.I like his thinking process and as a direct result believe in his product.It is my belief that within months of the release of the site and some hard numbers that the Big Money will be in Kentucky knocking on that little warehouse door just begging him to take their Institutionl money.This is not a 100 yard dash for me, this is a long term investment and a hefty one at that so I for one like the smooth gradual step by step growth the stock is taking.
The stock as witnessed by the stockholders on this forum has attracted an unusal group.Everyboby working together for a common cause asking great questions and receiving great answers.I would say that we are all very much in the same mold as Fleming and that makes me believe that we are all headed in the right direction.I have scoured thru many a forum but the effort that is put forth here is something special.TRSTURGUT-18
quote:
Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
Observations of Fleming........I am extremely confident that this man will bring this company to much higher highs than anyone can imagine.I will not sell one share of this stock for at least two years and this is why.I tend to look at the people behind the business because that is the steam that runs the engine,everything else is just a byproduct of that steam.Fleming as shown by his actions is extremely calculated and is a practical thinker and I like that.He chose a business model that is at the core of American society as we know it.It attacks every demographic you can think of,so you have a huge marketplace at your disposal.He does not PR you to death with fluff,which lets you know he is a no nonsense type of guy.When there will be an announcement it will merit much attention.He did not select a plush office but a practical location to streamline the overhead.This shows me that he cares about keeping the business profitable and not worried about his ego.The name change shows the direction of PGHI will be in the entertainment industry.So they are focusing in on their future direction.VeeGeez being the launching pad.He will not release the site until it is 100% to his liking.This shows me that he cares about his product and the image the product will present.Fleming was smart enough not to try and reinvent the wheel.He took the best and duplicated the business model with his own twist.That leads me to believe that he is smart enough to know what works and run with it.I like his thinking process and as a direct result believe in his product.It is my belief that within months of the release of the site and some hard numbers that the Big Money will be in Kentucky knocking on that little warehouse door just begging him to take their Institutionl money.This is not a 100 yard dash for me, this is a long term investment and a hefty one at that so I for one like the smooth gradual step by step growth the stock is taking.
The stock as witnessed by the stockholders on this forum has attracted an unusal group.Everyboby working together for a common cause asking great questions and receiving great answers.I would say that we are all very much in the same mold as Fleming and that makes me believe that we are all headed in the right direction.I have scoured thru many a forum but the effort that is put forth here is something special.TRSTURGUT-18
[This message has been edited by machtabow2 (edited December 22, 2003).]
I will try to purchase in groups rather than all at once. I do not want to cause a feeding frenzy and drive the prices up. I would rather pick up what I can in the .032 to .036 range and maybe upset some of the MM.
With a little study I have seen too many people buy at the peak of the day and then blame others when they panic and sell at a loss.
All the stocks I buy will be held for the long term. When I say I there are actually six of us buying.
Thanks
Ron B.
****The future is SO bright here*****
[This message has been edited by JustMe (edited December 22, 2003).]
I hope to post a photo of this place tomorrow.
j160e
QUOTE / HISTORICAL QUOTES
POINT GROUP HLDGS INC (OTCBB:PGHI)
Intraday PricesDate Time High Low Close Volume
12/22/03 16:01:46 0.034 0.034 0.034 69,000
12/22/03 16:00:14 0.035 0.034 0.034 40,000
12/22/03 15:59:16 0.034 0.034 0.034 5,000
12/22/03 15:57:42 0.034 0.034 0.034 6,000
12/22/03 15:53:57 0.034 0.034 0.034 61,000
12/22/03 15:50:57 0.036 0.036 0.036 13,200
12/22/03 15:48:18 0.036 0.035 0.035 7,000
12/22/03 15:46:06 0.036 0.035 0.036 224,500
12/22/03 15:39:47 0.036 0.035 0.035 60,000
12/22/03 15:35:28 0.036 0.035 0.035 154,500
12/22/03 15:32:14 0.035 0.035 0.035 10,000
12/22/03 15:27:14 0.035 0.035 0.035 31,000
12/22/03 15:26:17 0.035 0.035 0.035 29,000
12/22/03 15:20:33 0.035 0.034 0.034 110,000
12/22/03 15:18:48 0.035 0.035 0.035 180,000
12/22/03 15:07:13 0.035 0.034 0.034 51,000
12/22/03 14:58:44 0.036 0.035 0.035 108,000
12/22/03 14:38:24 0.036 0.035 0.035 10,000
12/22/03 14:36:08 0.036 0.035 0.035 60,000
12/22/03 14:34:00 0.036 0.034 0.035 444,000
12/22/03 14:31:37 0.035 0.034 0.035 200,000
12/22/03 14:30:36 0.035 0.035 0.035 100,000
12/22/03 14:24:40 0.035 0.034 0.034 200,000
12/22/03 14:23:36 0.036 0.035 0.035 68,000
12/22/03 14:21:49 0.035 0.035 0.035 6,000
12/22/03 14:20:37 0.036 0.034 0.036 110,600
12/22/03 14:03:23 0.034 0.034 0.034 4,000
12/22/03 13:54:01 0.035 0.034 0.035 75,000
12/22/03 13:52:04 0.035 0.034 0.035 200,000
12/22/03 13:16:07 0.037 0.036 0.036 5,000
12/22/03 13:12:05 0.037 0.036 0.036 30,000
12/22/03 13:08:12 0.037 0.036 0.036 6,000
12/22/03 12:52:35 0.035 0.034 0.035 34,000
12/22/03 12:51:26 0.035 0.034 0.035 149,900
12/22/03 12:39:25 0.035 0.034 0.035 68,000
12/22/03 12:18:40 0.035 0.034 0.035 34,600
12/22/03 12:09:30 0.036 0.034 0.035 100,000
12/22/03 11:50:18 0.035 0.034 0.035 30,000
12/22/03 11:33:46 0.035 0.035 0.035 10,000
12/22/03 11:28:56 0.034 0.034 0.034 25,000
12/22/03 11:27:32 0.037 0.037 0.037 9,400
12/22/03 11:19:47 0.035 0.034 0.034 20,000
12/22/03 11:18:29 0.037 0.036 0.036 47,300
12/22/03 11:16:50 0.038 0.036 0.037 49,000
12/22/03 11:16:00 0.039 0.036 0.037 35,000
12/22/03 11:14:13 0.039 0.039 0.039 5,000
12/22/03 10:57:05 0.039 0.039 0.039 25,000
12/22/03 10:54:35 0.039 0.038 0.038 6,000
12/22/03 10:53:28 0.039 0.038 0.039 29,000
12/22/03 10:51:20 0.039 0.036 0.036 40,400
12/22/03 10:50:35 0.040 0.038 0.040 208,200
12/22/03 10:49:05 0.040 0.039 0.040 90,000
12/22/03 10:47:45 0.040 0.037 0.040 55,000
12/22/03 10:45:52 0.037 0.034 0.037 189,100
12/22/03 10:44:26 0.035 0.034 0.034 35,000
12/22/03 10:42:21 0.035 0.034 0.035 70,000
12/22/03 10:41:36 0.034 0.034 0.034 17,200
12/22/03 10:39:54 0.034 0.034 0.034 5,000
12/22/03 10:37:56 0.034 0.034 0.034 60,000
12/22/03 10:36:48 0.034 0.034 0.034 50,000
12/22/03 10:34:49 0.033 0.033 0.033 65,200
12/22/03 10:27:40 0.034 0.033 0.034 5,000
12/22/03 10:23:02 0.034 0.033 0.033 35,000
12/22/03 10:20:57 0.034 0.033 0.033 12,000
12/22/03 10:18:23 0.034 0.033 0.033 70,000
12/22/03 10:13:17 0.034 0.034 0.034 5,500
12/22/03 10:13:13 0.034 0.032 0.032 36,200
12/22/03 10:11:20 0.034 0.033 0.034 51,200
12/22/03 10:08:11 0.033 0.031 0.032 155,600
12/22/03 10:06:06 0.034 0.034 0.034 16,000
12/22/03 10:02:58 0.034 0.034 0.034 6,000
12/22/03 09:54:04 0.034 0.033 0.033 200,000
12/22/03 09:52:23 0.032 0.032 0.032 5,000
12/22/03 09:51:22 0.032 0.032 0.032 6,000
12/22/03 09:47:48 0.032 0.032 0.032 3,500
12/22/03 09:43:02 0.032 0.032 0.032 15,000
12/22/03 09:41:07 0.032 0.032 0.032 10,000
12/22/03 09:39:25 0.032 0.032 0.032 65,000
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quote:
Originally posted by JustMe:
Hey guys. Just checking in. What a great day!
I see from someone's post earlier, that there is a NetFlix location in Minneapolis, Mn. If anyone can let me know where it is located, I would be more than willing to check it out for all of us. I will see if I can find out myself, but help would be appreciated, if someone knows exactly where to look..... As to the question regarding finding his message board. Back in May I started getting interested in the stock market. Getting tired of working for the man, so to speak. I spent about two months reading as much as I could about investing....charts, techs, candlesticks...etc...etc....One of my first purchases was in HLSH. I got a 9 bagger out of that one, and just recently sold out of that to move into PGHI. If anyone has followed HLSH, from March, you will see it has gone from a low of .08, to it's current price of 4.53. Why did I get out?......Well, simply put.....I see only a future 2-3 bagger from here in HLSH....What I see here, is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more potential. I got into this over the last two weeks for 315,00 shares, at an average price of just under .03 Mach has it right!!!****The future is SO bright here*****
[This message has been edited by JustMe (edited December 22, 2003).]
I was lucky enough to get in at the 0.008 level with 2M shares and I hope that PGHI will boost my portfolio in the year to come!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
RangerGood to see that you got in.
Mach
I did have an order in for 3 million shares and got 900,000. It went up faster than I thought but came to settle at .035. I will regroup tomorrow and try to fill my shares. look for another jump in the price so I would advise everyone to get in with what they can.
My group is going to put up somewhere in the range of one to three million dollars after we get some facts straighten out with JF. This will take place after they have the web site up and have showen more preformance.
At that time it is safer for this kind of money to be placed.
I have ridden in on your shirt tails on this one so soon it will be time for you to ride mine.
Thanks
Ron B.
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by JustMe:
Hey guys. Just checking in. What a great day!
I see from someone's post earlier, that there is a NetFlix location in Minneapolis, Mn. If anyone can let me know where it is located, I would be more than willing to check it out for all of us. I will see if I can find out myself, but help would be appreciated, if someone knows exactly where to look..... As to the question regarding finding his message board. Back in May I started getting interested in the stock market. Getting tired of working for the man, so to speak. I spent about two months reading as much as I could about investing....charts, techs, candlesticks...etc...etc....One of my first purchases was in HLSH. I got a 9 bagger out of that one, and just recently sold out of that to move into PGHI. If anyone has followed HLSH, from March, you will see it has gone from a low of .08, to it's current price of 4.53. Why did I get out?......Well, simply put.....I see only a future 2-3 bagger from here in HLSH....What I see here, is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more potential. I got into this over the last two weeks for 315,00 shares, at an average price of just under .03 Mach has it right!!!****The future is SO bright here*****
[This message has been edited by JustMe (edited December 22, 2003).]
As reported on Dec. 17 there Alexa Traffic ranking was 167,331. Alexa updated there traffic ranking to 164,579.
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=veegeez.com
They also show now that VeeGeeZ last 3 mths is up 350% compared to 340% from Dec. 17
quote:
Originally posted by pbwizard:
Here is something of interest.List of companies that rent videos and there traffic stats
Gamefly last 3 mths down 8% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.gamefly.com
Govojo last 3 mths down 20% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.govojo.com
VeeGeeZ last 3 mths up 340% http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=http://www.veegeez.com/
These are the top 3 companies renting vidoes online. The traffic to the site has taken VeeGeeZ from an Alexa ranking of 559,831 3 months ago to 167,331 at present time. At this rate they should be into the top 100,000 websites on the web by the end of Jan. 2004 and if my calulations are correct they should hit top 55,000 websites by May 2004.
I've been told I'll probably be spoiled by that one(HLSH)....I did find the address for the Minneapolis location. 430 Industrial Blvd N.E. Mpls, Mn. 55413 Can someone pull up a satelite pic? I am somewhat familiar with the area. It is just N.E. from downtown Mpls, and not exactly what I would call a "Great" location. Lower income area, with older commercial buildings. I'll see what I can find out, in the next few days.
Thank you for the kind words.This is starting to breed a life of its own or as you previously stated a cult following.I certainly hope 2 extremely important facets take place with VeeGeez which is not easy to read at this stage of the game.
1-Inventory should not only be extensive but it is imperative that 20% of that inventory MUST be hard to find titles.The comsumer must know that they can count on VeeGeez to provide them with a product that is not easlily accessible from competitors.That is KEY.This will build that cult following you refer to.Give them something they can't get somewhere else and they will keep on coming back no matter what the cost.Turning the inventory is the key to profit so by supplying hard to find titles as well as the basics you create a cash flow from two seperate entities.
2-Fleming hopefully has a huge mailing list that he will attack several days before the site comes up.They should send a mailer with VeeGeez money for various discounts that can be applied to the comsumers first 10 purchases.This will not only keep them coming back at a minimal cost but it will create great word of mouth business and you cannot put a dollar value on that.
I have done it enough times and the formula
works.
TRSTURGUT-18
We are going in with the larger amount of cash as the company grows into what they have planned. I am going to be talking to John Flemming about investing these funds as we see the developments take place in the time frame which he has determined.
PGHI has the plan in place to take it to a very high level over the next couple of years.
We sound like big time investors but we are actually just bussinessmen who have deceided to invest. I do not know much about the pennies and have had brokers do most of my investing in the other markets. The other regulars on this board actually do have a better handle on what to expect better than I.
We do have more cash than most as a whole but I am sure that people like the regulars on the board are better that I to give advise.
I look at it this way when you are dealing in these matters the person with a little more money is like someone who brings the biggest boots in a butt kicking contest and everyone else is barefoot.
Ron B.
quote:
Originally posted by JustMe:
Hey guys. Just checking in. What a great day!
I see from someone's post earlier, that there is a NetFlix location in Minneapolis, Mn. If anyone can let me know where it is located, I would be more than willing to check it out for all of us. I will see if I can find out myself, but help would be appreciated, if someone knows exactly where to look..... As to the question regarding finding his message board. Back in May I started getting interested in the stock market. Getting tired of working for the man, so to speak. I spent about two months reading as much as I could about investing....charts, techs, candlesticks...etc...etc....One of my first purchases was in HLSH. I got a 9 bagger out of that one, and just recently sold out of that to move into PGHI. If anyone has followed HLSH, from March, you will see it has gone from a low of .08, to it's current price of 4.53. Why did I get out?......Well, simply put.....I see only a future 2-3 bagger from here in HLSH....What I see here, is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more potential. I got into this over the last two weeks for 315,00 shares, at an average price of just under .03 Mach has it right!!!****The future is SO bright here*****
[This message has been edited by JustMe (edited December 22, 2003).]
[This message has been edited by Degs (edited December 22, 2003).]
[This message has been edited by Degs (edited December 22, 2003).]
More investors to build up the PPS... and hopefully hold for the long term.
Adding more wood to the fire couldn't hurt as long as it stays lit.
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Does someone have those keywords handy to put on my web site. I can't seem to locate them on this thread
Now if we get a 60mil up volume day we could potentialy see a climb to .12 PPS in one day.
I know Mach has been stating this all along but now I see how that potential is there through my own chart analysis.
1) the 4x multiple was in a lower price range, allowing more shares to be purchased, so its not likely we will have that big of volume- but possible. I would say 20-40 could be expected on a breakout
2) It will be a breakout into a range we havent been in before, so the overhead will be slim, and easy to run up real fast.
In other words, we might not have as much volume as before, but we wont need as much either.
Today we went from .03 t0 .04 on under 2 mil!!!!
SLOW WALK TO .05, THEN BREAK OUT, PLEEEASE!!!
quote:
Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
I was looking @ a chart for PGHI and the volume bought around 10/21 was about 60mil shares... as it looks to me. The PPS went from below .01 up to nearly .04 (4x in PPS) in one day.Now if we get a 60mil up volume day we could potentialy see a climb to .12 PPS in one day.
I know Mach has been stating this all along but now I see how that potential is there through my own chart analysis.
This is very exciting.
I really can't wait!
I know most of us are playing this stock for the long haul, but it's interesting almost every single time the Fast Stoch line has crossed to above the Slow Stoch line there has been nice gains either the day of or the day after.
I know this is just a small point, but it is very interesting how consistent this point is.
Either way, this thing is going to make me some money! GO PGHI!
~Marc
quote:
Originally posted by Marcidius:
Anybody else notice something about the stokes...I know most of us are playing this stock for the long haul, but it's interesting almost every single time the Fast Stoch line has crossed to above the Slow Stoch line there has been nice gains either the day of or the day after.
I know this is just a small point, but it is very interesting how consistent this point is.
Either way, this thing is going to make me some money! GO PGHI!
~Marc
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Looking pretty good today. MM all over the place... One left at .036. mach
quote:
Originally posted by Marcidius:
Anybody else notice something about the stokes...I know most of us are playing this stock for the long haul, but it's interesting almost every single time the Fast Stoch line has crossed to above the Slow Stoch line there has been nice gains either the day of or the day after.
I know this is just a small point, but it is very interesting how consistent this point is.
Either way, this thing is going to make me some money! GO PGHI!
~Marc
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I have a question. I put in an order for 58000. It showed up in my portfoilio, but nothing on the last sale....then I see a 100 for last sale. A quick explanantion would be nice. cabbage, mach
Something isn't working right today. My level 2 screen shows volume of 124K so far, but my last sale ticker (on since the open) only shows 44K shares so far.
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I have a question. I put in an order for 58000. It showed up in my portfoilio, but nothing on the last sale....then I see a 100 for last sale. A quick explanantion would be nice. cabbage, mach
Was I right about the 100.
I saw it flash, then a sale for 2000 went through, then the price dropped
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
These asks are going to have to come down...
HOLIDAY GIFT GUIDE 2003: VIDEO GAMES
Source: MATT SLAGLE, Associated Press
Unless they've dropped some clear hints, choosing a gift for the die-hard video gamers in the family could be overwhelming this holiday season. An estimated 250 new games are expected in this pivotal season for game companies - it accounts for about half of the industry's $10 billion annual sales.Whether you prefer adaptations of Hollywood blockbusters, realistic war epics or kid-friendly go-cart racing, there's something for just about every gamer.
Published on December 5, 2003, Page 8G, The Miami Herald
. I'm trying to learn and do my best so hopefully real soon I can start helping out with accurate DD!BTW, PSU thanks for the link, I'm checking it out right now..
~Marc
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Very good Marc, you are starting to become a good technician. Stokes are a measure of oversold and overbought prices, when the fast crosses over the slow, its usually an indication of the selling coming to an end, and a trend reversal- keep up the good work!
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
I wanted to share these news with you, this demostrate the potential we are facing...HOLIDAY GIFT GUIDE 2003: VIDEO GAMES
Source: MATT SLAGLE, Associated Press
Unless they've dropped some clear hints, choosing a gift for the die-hard video gamers in the family could be overwhelming this holiday season. An estimated 250 new games are expected in this pivotal season for game companies - it accounts for about half of the industry's $10 billion annual sales.Whether you prefer adaptations of Hollywood blockbusters, realistic war epics or kid-friendly go-cart racing, there's something for just about every gamer.Published on December 5, 2003, Page 8G, The Miami Herald
That's a nice leap
FOR THE TRUE FAN, A WORLD OF CHOICES
Source: MATT SLAGLE, Associated Press
Choosing a gift for die-hard video gamers could prove overwhelming this year, what with an estimated 250 new games expected in a pivotal season that accounts for about half of the industry's $10 billion annual sales. Nintendo's GameCube and Game Boy Advance, Sony's PlayStation2 and Microsoft's Xbox still dominate, with personal computers accounting for a relative niche audience.And with the next round of consoles years away, Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony have been .....
Published on November 27, 2003, Page 4C, The Miami Herald
I see what you mean about GWDL Mach, sales going through at .0017 and 18, but not for me and my ask is 16! Offloaded 20,000 of it this morning- so frustrating!
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
I like the idea that there is so much out there. Makes renting make strong economical sense. Will allow gamers to enjoy a variety of games at a portion of the cost. mach
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
I'm waiting at .034 for a dumper-I see what you mean about GWDL Mach, sales going through at .0017 and 18, but not for me and my ask is 16! Offloaded 20,000 of it this morning- so frustrating!
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
SCHB at the bid of .034.... Bid support building once again... .034 X .037... We may have buyers waiting for a pullback today... If we don't see it soon... they will likely buy it "up" giving us another up day... we shall see... but once again... bid support is building through .034. mach
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
Mach... I think with all the technology that is out there (pc, game consoles, new video cards, faster memory, bigger hard drives) and dropping prices everyday more people can have access to this kind of technology at home, and games developers can open their imagination to make more realistic games over time... it is a business of the masses, where everybody can buy a computer or a game console to enjoy with the family and friends.
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
Mach... There are many strong hands here as I can see, ....
Strange...
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
I concurr Mav... Take a look at the charts... It appears MACD crossover could occur tomorrow... but could also occur the day after Christmas. I remember the big jump on the day before Thanksgiving. If I recall right... It broke out at the open for a huge 40% gain... That's another tech signal many traders are watching... and it generally gives a stock a boost when the crossover occurs. Looking good! mach
quote:
Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
My Ameritrade quote bar for real-time info is still stuck @ 09:54Strange...
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Odds are that we will be trading in the .04's by the end fo the week. mach
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
Mach, I am looking at my technical indicators and as for me i could say we are at a new bottom, my stochastic and Williams %R indicators are telling me that, if you overlap those with the MACD, this break out could happen any time now, again I think we are sitting at a new bottom here and a new uptrend is flashing ahead. Your opinion is appreciated...
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
I think I could live with that! BTW, Mach, did you catch my post on the CYTP thread (regarding the FNIX thread)? Sorry about bringing that one up.PSU
My charts for PGHI say that the ADX line is evening out, may go up... and the slow STO has crossed over and should make the stock trend up.
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Originally posted by Mav:
Only one MM @ 0.037, is that correct ?
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Your tech analysis is far more advanced than mine Mav. You seem to always be right on top of things. I really do not mind the opportunity to shake out any weak hands today. Doesn't seem to be many... but we need to make sure we have strong hands moving forward. When we get the base established at .04 with strong shareholders... the web site launch will send us into our "breakout" above .05 to .10 and beyond. This is key. Let's continue our slow advance to .04... continue to weed out the weak hands and we will be just fine.... mach
~Marc
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Originally posted by Marcidius:
That's Correct Mav, BAMM at .037
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
SCHB at the bid of .034.... Bid support building once again... .034 X .037... We may have buyers waiting for a pullback today... If we don't see it soon... they will likely buy it "up" giving us another up day... we shall see... but once again... bid support is building through .034. mach
quote:
Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Mav, thanks for clarifying that "last trade time" rule.My charts for PGHI say that the ADX line is evening out, may go up... and the slow STO has crossed over and should make the stock trend up.
Yes... I really do think we have buyers on the sidelines... hoping... praying... drooling for a pullback of some sort... I've read it on a a few other threads and boards. Some were hoping to enter in the low .03's and maybe still are... If we do not get that pullback as desired... they will likely be the people that chase the price up. It happens often... I think the light volume is simply the market (investors) gauging the stock movement. Keep in mind that any day now we will likely get the final SEC filing for the name change to GameZNflix and a possible website release and/or PR with respect to that. There is too much happening here very soon for me to think there will be much selling at all. .10 and beyond is just beyond the horizon.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Very slow today. Yesterday in the first hour I believe there was 2mil in vloume. Today barely 200,000. I feel like I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. Something big is on the horizon.
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
I think you are exactly right on this Mach. My bet is there are a lot of buy orders in at anywhere from .033 to .035. The MM's havn't lowered the ask at all yet because they don't want to fill those orders.....but they havn't been able to get any sellers at .034 either. Eventually, the buyers wanting to get in for sure will move up to the ask.
Should hear from KC pretty soon on the KY location and how it looks.
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Those tricky MM's.... mach
"Build it and they will come"
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
CoolFreeze,Yes... I really do think we have buyers on the sidelines... hoping... praying... drooling for a pullback of some sort... I've read it on a a few other threads and boards. Some were hoping to enter in the low .03's and maybe still are... If we do not get that pullback as desired... they will likely be the people that chase the price up. It happens often... I think the light volume is simply the market (investors) gauging the stock movement. Keep in mind that any day now we will likely get the final SEC filing for the name change to GameZNflix and a possible website release and/or PR with respect to that. There is too much happening here very soon for me to think there will be much selling at all. .10 and beyond is just beyond the horizon.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
POOF!!! TRAC is gone. -
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach, i am looking again at those small buy orders @0.037, the same phenomenon I saw some days ago, small buy orders coming in. Do you still think those are partial buy orders of a bigger one ?.
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
What was that all about.....POOF!!! TRAC is gone. -
bid slowly rising now...like others saide will probably see a catwalk up to .04-.05 then a breakout with news. I like the slow walk up though, less likely to retrace back to these levels if/when we breakout again
Yet BAMM is still @ .037
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
My display shows that Bid up @ 0.035 and Ask up @ 0.039, is that correct ?.
quote:
Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
.034X.039 (according to my ticker)
Vol @ 415,650Yet BAMM is still @ .037
~Marc
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Gee now look TRAC NOW HAS A BIGGER ORDER IN AT THE BID .035... WHAT'S UP WITH THIS MAGICIAN. Oh... there he goes again.. Poof... I think he's hoping above the other MM's for a second to accumulate what he can.. May be trying to fill a larger order. imho mach
TRAC is ECN* not a MM.
This means they are of NO particular interest when watching Level_II movement
____________________________________________
*An electronic system that attempts to eliminate third parties orders entered by an exchange market maker or an OTC market maker, and permits such orders to be executed either in whole or in part.
An ECN networks major brokerages and individual traders, so that they can trade directly between themselves without having to go through a middleman.
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
I'm not sure.. but .037 is gradually going to fade away here.... A lot of buying in small lots occuring... Likely a larger order that is being filled a little at a time... mach
Yep.....037 gone now, but they are still hoping for those sellers at .034.
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Yep.....037 gone now, but they are still hoping for those sellers at .034.
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quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
response to machtabow2:TRAC is ECN* not a MM.
This means they are of NO particular interest when watching Level_II movement
____________________________________________*An electronic system that attempts to eliminate third parties orders entered by an exchange market maker or an OTC market maker, and permits such orders to be executed either in whole or in part.
An ECN networks major brokerages and individual traders, so that they can trade directly between themselves without having to go through a middleman.
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
BAMM pulled back to .039. mach
quote:
Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Yeah I have the delayed version of Level II. Nice to know that .039 is being displayed by all. Although those who may want to accumulate @ the lower levels are on the outs for now
MACH
I'll drink to that, Hear, Hear! -
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
LSTA just put a 300 through- only trade of the day
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quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Well... this board is a good resource for many things. .034X.039 a five point spread indicating to me the MM's are trying to slow the buy pressure. We've got techs strengthening incredible... great news forthcoming... I do not believe there will be many sellers at all. We have some of the most confident shareholders that I've seen in a long time for a stock on the bb. mach
Yesterday SEAB was on the BID @ .018, if I remember correctly. Not sure what that means, but it's quite a change up.
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Ahhhh, 40K at the ask of .039. If buying pressure hits .039, the MM's will be forced to raise the bid. That will get this train moving!
Oh christ who just sold 20,000 at .034 thats just awful
Anyway...
Video game industry set to explode
Friday, April 05 2002
by Paula Mythen
Revenues from games software, worth USD17.7 billion in 2001, are predicted to rise by 22 percent to peak at USD21.6 billion in 2004.
A new report by Datamonitor reveals that the next three years will bring rapid growth to the electronic games market globally, spurred by the emergence of new home consoles.
The addition of multimedia features and the increasing power of the next-generation consoles, which will deliver near photo-realistic graphics to the public, will help broaden the penetration of home consoles. Datamonitor believes that console on-line gaming will also be a major factor in the growth.
The report "Global Electronic Games," predicts that Sony's PlayStation 2 (PS2) will dominate the home console market with Microsoft eventually taking second place over Nintendo. But in the handheld market, Nintendo's Game Boy Advance will hold a monopoly.
"There is no doubt that the PS2 will retain its leading position in the home console market over the next few years," said Adrian Drozd, Datamonitor games analyst. "By the end of 2005, there will be a global installed base of over 90 million for Sony's latest console, which will dwarf the Xbox total of less than 40 million."
The strength of Sony's PlayStation brand, united with a competitive price and a large selection of quality games, will maintain the lead of the PS2 in the market for the foreseeable future. And although the Xbox sales have been hit by the high price tag in Europe, this is expected to drop and the power of the console and its built-in Internet capabilities, will enable Microsoft to overtake Nintendo for the second place in the market. Nintendo's current lack of on-line gaming initiatives could also prove harmful for the long-term prospects of the console.
Although the US will remain the largest single market, thought to be worth USD7.4 billion in 2004, Asia Pacific, driven by Japan, will lead the industry in terms of revenues, with the research house predicting revenues of USD7.6 billion in 2004. The European market will be worth USD6.7 billion in 2004 with the UK accounting for 30 percent of total revenues, closely followed by Germany.
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Video game industry set to explode
Friday, April 05 2002
by Paula Mythen
double post
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Let's talk about the ASCENDING TRIANGLE... This pattern is occuring here and will eventually lead to our BREAKOUT...
On the ascending triangle, the horizontal line represents overhead supply that prevents the security from moving past a certain level. It is as if a large sell order has been placed at this level and it is taking a number of weeks or months to execute, thus preventing the price from rising further. Even though the price cannot rise past this level, the reaction lows continue to rise. It is these higher lows that indicate increased buying pressure and give the ascending triangle its bullish bias.
http://stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis/triangle-Ascending.html
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;-)
Also keep in mind.... as I've stated before. Because we have no previous buyers above .05... theres is ZERO upside resistance which means the BREAKOUT will be significantly stronger than most anticipate.
.10 and beyond will be here soon.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
CANDLESTICK CHARTING PATTERNS
ASCENDING PATTERN OCCURING
BREAKOUT IMMINENT
(Link Provided)Let's talk about the ASCENDING TRIANGLE... This pattern is occuring here and will eventually lead to our BREAKOUT...
On the ascending triangle, the horizontal line represents overhead supply that prevents the security from moving past a certain level. It is as if a large sell order has been placed at this level and it is taking a number of weeks or months to execute, thus preventing the price from rising further. Even though the price cannot rise past this level, the reaction lows continue to rise. It is these higher lows that indicate increased buying pressure and give the ascending triangle its bullish bias.
http://stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis/triangle-Ascending.html
What makes me wonder a little is that those buys that showed up at .0352 were mine. I put an order in last night. First I got 2K at the open. Then 38K at 10:54 and another 5K at 11:12. The "later" sales did not post until I tried to edit my order. I was going to move it up from .0352 to .037. I tried it and Ameritrade canceled the edit. Couldn't figure it out until I doublechecked and voila.... suddenly I had those extra shares in my portfolio...and they showed up on the last trade streamer!
Did those transactions happen at 10:54 and 11:12, or did they all happen at 9:30 and the MM's just didn't post them? I think we are seeing some manipulation here IMHO.
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
I think we're at a point where the MM's just don't want to push it. If Magoo really bought up 900,000 shares yesterday morning, and Im not doubting him, it probably triggered the MMs to buy along with it. Now on light volume they are hesitent to up the bid, and probably want more at a lower price- knowing where its going in the future.Oh christ who just sold 20,000 at .034 thats just awful
Anyway...
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Mav... If you have time to map out our ASCENDING TRIANGLE and can post a chart for members to see... it would be great. I know you have the technology... or anyone... It would be nice to have the visual... as I do not have the capability here. mach
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quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
I wonder what the rules are for reporting sales on time? I can't believe that after 90K is bought at .039 that a buy would go through at .035 (the exact same number of shares as were sold at .034). I think this had to be an earlier transaction.What makes me wonder a little is that those buys that showed up at .0352 were mine. I put an order in last night. First I got 2K at the open. Then 38K at 10:54 and another 5K at 11:12. The "later" sales did not post until I tried to edit my order. I was going to move it up from .0352 to .037. I tried it and Ameritrade canceled the edit. Couldn't figure it out until I doublechecked and voila.... suddenly I had those extra shares in my portfolio...and they showed up on the last trade streamer!
Did those transactions happen at 10:54 and 11:12, or did they all happen at 9:30 and the MM's just didn't post them? I think we are seeing some manipulation here IMHO.
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Originally posted by Marcidius:
mach, I forget what you use for your Level II quotes and for the buy/sell order sizes? Sorry if I've asked you this before...heh
~Marc;-)
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
ASCENDING TRIANGLE AT PGHI ....
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Mav... Outstanding... Nice to have a visual of what we are talking about. mach
Wish I could be here till close, but I'm off to see Lord of the Rings!
Later guys, goodluck!
HAVE FUN!
~Marc
Weston, FLA., Dec 23, 2003 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Wall Street News
Alert`s "stocks to watch" this morning are: LocatePLUS Holdings Corporation
(OTCBB: LPLHA), GlobeTel Communications C (OTCBB: GTEL), US Global Aerospace Inc
(OTCBB: USGA), Microsignal Corp (OTCBB: MSGL) and Point Group Holdings Inc
(OTCBB: PGHI)
Video Game Industry Plays L.A.
Reuters Page 1 of 1
12:51 PM May. 11, 2003 PT
LOS ANGELES -- Cram 65,000 people into a convention center, add the sounds of aliens being shot and race cars being crashed at rock 'n' roll volumes, then sprinkle in a few women dressed in costumes just an inch or two this side of indecency.
What you get is E3, the Electronic Entertainment Expo, the video game industry's annual convention that starts this week in Los Angeles and represents the favored forum for deal-making and promotion in a business expected to generate $30 billion in sales in 2003.
Analysts agree that E3 is a catalyst for game stocks and the time to buy is now.
"If there is a trading rule on how to play the videogame stocks surrounding E3, recent history says that buying them during the show is the most consistent way to make money," RBC Capital Markets analyst Stewart Halpern said in a note.
Halpern's analysis showed that from 2000 through 2002, the only constant in terms of price moves is that the stocks go up an average of 5.4 percent during the show, while no pattern holds true in the days before and after the event.
E3 is also big business for the city of Los Angeles, generating at least $12 million in revenue. On Friday, shops throughout downtown Los Angeles had signs in their windows welcoming the convention.
PGHI at around the E3 time will be a homerun, that is AFTER the large figures we are talking about previous to that too
~Marc
ps. Good find Mav, like always
What's encouraging is that the CEO, John Fleming, hasn't sold one single share since they bought Veegeez. That's a very good sign of how management is confident about the future of PGHI(GamezNFlix)/Veegeez!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Was the last trade way back at 11:57? Wow, the MM's were able to bring PGHI to a complete halt with that spread.
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quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
These MM's need to display some of the bids that are obviously there- like people arent bidding above .034- CUZ I KNOW I AM
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quote:
Originally posted by knee-hi-boot-gurl:
I'm bidding .035 for the last hour and im not getting a fill!! What am I doing wrong? I'm new at this, pleazz help!!
quote:
Originally posted by knee-hi-boot-gurl:
What should i bid to get a darn fill?
If you bid at the ask (.039 right now), you'll have the best chance. There have been many times in the past where it took me quite awhile to fill at the ask on PGHI...or the ask would eventually just tick up and leave me behind.
Any time you bid lower than the ask, your chances of getting filled are limited. You are basically trying to "outwit" the MM's when you play this game. I do it when I already have plenty of shares but will add if they "give it to me"....but if you just want entry.... go with the ask.
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In my opinion they are not going to budge.
Remember these are 1/10th of a cent here. -
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
If you bid at the ask (.039 right now), you'll have the best chance. There have been many times in the past where it took me quite awhile to fill at the ask on PGHI...or the ask would eventually just tick up and leave me behind.Any time you bid lower than the ask, your chances of getting filled are limited. You are basically trying to "outwit" the MM's when you play this game. I do it when I already have plenty of shares but will add if they "give it to me"....but if you just want entry.... go with the ask.
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"My best guess is that the order books have many people waiting @.034-.036... I'd try .037... as there may be a sellers just above current bid... Pure speculation... but if there are orders .034-.036... you are waiting in a line to get a fill... if any shareholders are willing to sell... You could go .0361... Try and get the inside... imho mach"
Anyone catch that drop in UVCL? picked a little up at .026 for the long run
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quote:
Originally posted by Degs:
just had another 7,000 trade
Amazing Degs.....over an hour between trades and then a 7000 sale? Gotta be a partial fill. PGHI is notorious for those. Took me three partials to fill 45K today. (Ameritrade only charges one fee as long as the order isn't altered).
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Before you buy at ASK, I recommend Mach's take on the matter....."My best guess is that the order books have many people waiting @.034-.036... I'd try .037... as there may be a sellers just above current bid... Pure speculation... but if there are orders .034-.036... you are waiting in a line to get a fill... if any shareholders are willing to sell... You could go .0361... Try and get the inside... imho mach"
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When I bought PGHI about two weeks ago I put in a bid @ .036 and they sold me the whole bunch @ .035 I was surprised. In between now and then I could have sold in order to reclaim @ the high .02 prices, but why be too greedy? I got in and I'm holding for the first big run. Only scary thing is how high will the first run go? LOL! We will see. I'll make my decisions as it happens. This is uncharted territory.
Eventually they won't have a choice when demand gets too high!
Is RB not working today? I was going to tae a peak at that board.. but have not been able to pull up the site. mach
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
I remember the high volume trading days when it was easy to pick up 500K or 1M shares. Now it seems like nobody wants to sell and the MM's are too stuck up to raise the price!Eventually they won't have a choice when demand gets too high!
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Tommy,Is RB not working today? I was going to tae a peak at that board.. but have not been able to pull up the site. mach
I've gotta believe there are some big buys in line at .035 - .037 and they simply don't want to fill them at this point.
I'd like to see this close at .039 or .04 today. That would make for a higher high and a higher low than yesterday. Very bullish on the chart.
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Well the MM game is a tricky one. If they desired to accumulate more shares... they could easily take a 5 point spread... make the buyers at .035 buy at .039... Those sneaky MM's... then they could drop the floor and accumulate as bid support weakens... imho it's good in these situations not to take the high ask... but rather take the inside by a tenth .001 or .005... Example... 0361/.0362... That way we maintain the bid support... It helps us all in the long run... and it's the only way we can beat the MM at there game... Of course... if some big buyers do come in and take out the .039's and .04's... you could miss entry... On that note you could split your desired entry into two... buy a few at .039 just to have shares... and continue to accumulate on the inside... It's always a tough call. mach
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No wonder you are here. I did not see a single productive post and that board from today. Well... I guess it's great to have somewhere to BS... but I like the fact that we have very serious and productive investors here. mach
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Yeah it is working:
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=PGHI
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Good strategy Mach. I'm a little surprised the MM havn't raised the bid to .035 or .036 just to get some sellers?I've gotta believe there are some big buys in line at .035 - .037 and they simply don't want to fill them at this point.
I'd like to see this close at .039 or .04 today. That would make for a higher high and a higher low than yesterday. Very bullish on the chart.
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In The Year 2007...
Peer into the crystal ball of market research and see the future of the video game industry.
April 17, 2003 - The already massive worldwide video game market is expected to keep growing, from $20.7 billion in 2002 to up to $30 billion by 2007, claims a new report from research firm DFC Intelligence.
The report, titled "Worldwide Market Forcasts for the Video Game and Interactive Entertainment Industry," makes a number of predictions about the future of the industry. While it argues that Sony will likely remain the market share leader well into the next generation of systems, it anticipates that Microsoft and Nintendo will begin to close the gap in system sales.
"The Playstation 2 could eventually have sales of over 100 million hardware units, thus the Playstation 3 has to be a favorite to continue Sony's market leadership positition," said David Cole, president of DFC Intelligence. "but we expect as much as 50% of Playstation owners to eventually buy an Xbox or GameCube."
"Nintendo is being very aggressive with hardware pricing, software bundling and is doing a better job with third-party relationships." elaborated Cole. "This should really help them in the long term."
The report also notes that Microsoft, despite its position as the new kid on the console block, has still been fairly competitive. The decent performance of the Xbox should theoretically pave the way for a much smoother ride with the company's next system.
Nice to see you on the boards. Yes... this is a very productive bunch... and a majority are on the same page with respect to the potential here. As I told Tommy... It's nice to read messages from the strong shareholders that have been holding PGHI through the ups and downs for months. You have already learned how bullish this stock is... even when the MM's are doing there best to accumulate. Wow... sounds like PGHI is becoming a "family affair." Will give you "lots" to talk about for the holidays!
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by jr:
hey guys, is there room for another obsessed PGHI shareholder in here? haha.. ive read every post on here, (including mach's entire first thread) and the dd/teamwork is just incredible! i've been holding/adding PGHI since october and have not sold a single share, nor do i plan on it anytime soon... i also got both my father and my brother to invest in pghi, as well as my friend's father, who used to be a stock broker himself. the potential here is mind-boggling!!!
The MM's must be in a conference call deciding what to do after Magoo bought up the shares they wanted, hahaha
*** The Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
Just a quick read for you guys, this gets better as I do my DD.In The Year 2007...
Peer into the crystal ball of market research and see the future of the video game industry.
April 17, 2003 - The already massive worldwide video game market is expected to keep growing, from $20.7 billion in 2002 to up to $30 billion by 2007, claims a new report from research firm DFC Intelligence.
The report, titled "Worldwide Market Forcasts for the Video Game and Interactive Entertainment Industry," makes a number of predictions about the future of the industry. While it argues that Sony will likely remain the market share leader well into the next generation of systems, it anticipates that Microsoft and Nintendo will begin to close the gap in system sales."The Playstation 2 could eventually have sales of over 100 million hardware units, thus the Playstation 3 has to be a favorite to continue Sony's market leadership positition," said David Cole, president of DFC Intelligence. "but we expect as much as 50% of Playstation owners to eventually buy an Xbox or GameCube."
"Nintendo is being very aggressive with hardware pricing, software bundling and is doing a better job with third-party relationships." elaborated Cole. "This should really help them in the long term."
The report also notes that Microsoft, despite its position as the new kid on the console block, has still been fairly competitive. The decent performance of the Xbox should theoretically pave the way for a much smoother ride with the company's next system.
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
I can't handle these half hour gaps in between trades, Im going crazy! 10-15 minute gaps Im used to but this is ridiculous.The MM's must be in a conference call deciding what to do after Magoo bought up the shares they wanted, hahaha
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
I can't handle these half hour gaps in between trades, Im going crazy! 10-15 minute gaps Im used to but this is ridiculous.The MM's must be in a conference call deciding what to do after Magoo bought up the shares they wanted, hahaha
LOL! Ol' Magoo gooed up their big plans. As for waiting goes... yeah this seems really intense like a Mexican standoff.
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach... look what the MMs just did, BID up 0.035 and Ask up again @ 0.039. What could they be thinking here ?
CANDLESTICK CHARTING PATTERNS
ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN OCCURING
BREAKOUT IMMINENT
(Link Provided)
Let's talk about the ASCENDING TRIANGLE... This pattern is occuring here and will eventually lead to our BREAKOUT...
On the ascending triangle, the horizontal line represents overhead supply that prevents the security from moving past a certain level. It is as if a large sell order has been placed at this level and it is taking a number of weeks or months to execute, thus preventing the price from rising further. Even though the price cannot rise past this level, the reaction lows continue to rise. It is these higher lows that indicate increased buying pressure and give the ascending triangle its bullish bias.
http://stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis/triangle-Ascending.html
.05 has been resistance on two previous occassions. Reaction lows continue to rise. When we have our final base established at .04 and our new name change and web site are released.... OUR ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN will lead to a BREAKOUT.
Also keep in mind.... as I've stated before. Because we have no previous buyers above .05... theres is ZERO upside resistance which means the BREAKOUT will be significantly stronger than most anticipate.
.10 and beyond will be here soon.
*** Future's so Bright ***
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Originally posted by Mav:
ASCENDING TRIANGLE AT PGHI ....
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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Mach, they seem to want to accumulate no matter what... I guess the MM's blinked first?
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Well as per our discussion with Magoo and Friends... he stated that they would try and accumulate another 2.1 million shares between .032 & .036... unless I read that wrong. I advised him to buy in smaller quantities as not to make the price run up to fast. It seems that others desire the same entry.... I could point out a few messages on other threads where investors also had that target entry in mind. imho there is bid support and it's not reflected accurately on Level II. "The MM's want your shares." mach
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Thank you - Marty
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Maybe the MM read this message and decided they better start accumulating at all cost! mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
MMs just could not do it. We are way too strong here!!!.
NITE on the bid at .036 now! Looking good!
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Originally posted by tommy:
Also take into consideration that when a company files for a ticker symbol change, there must be NO SHORTS on the stock previous to the change. This means that MM's MUST COVER their shorts before the change or they will be in big trouble with the SEC!
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Originally posted by Degs:
Well I personally would like to see these MM's get thier as* BURNT!!
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Wow... this is a very big point Tommy! Huge! That means if MM brought this down over the last 14 days or so... by shorting it down... they have no choice but to cover. Because the name change is occuring soon and ... combined with the Bullishness... they have no choice... but to buy... buy ... buy! This will certainly help our breakout! mach
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Originally posted by tommy:
Also take into consideration that when a company files for a ticker symbol change, there must be NO SHORTS on the stock previous to the change. This means that MM's MUST COVER their shorts before the change or they will be in big trouble with the SEC!
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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
.036x.037
That was the quickest .036x.037
Back to .036x.038
They must know the exact date of the name change.
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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Can the situation get any better? We hold strong and the MM's are forced to buy due to an SEC reg.They must know the exact date of the name change.
The highest short possible is .049, Im guessing most was done the day of the PR and days following from .049 down through .04- In other words they have to cover in this range or face a loss
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Originally posted by tommy:
Also take into consideration that when a company files for a ticker symbol change, there must be NO SHORTS on the stock previous to the change. This means that MM's MUST COVER their shorts before the change or they will be in big trouble with the SEC!
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Originally posted by clay1999:
OK... may be a dumb question, but what is a MM... I'm a newbie
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
That certainly is a hot point! It's always good to have a strong group of well rounded, knowledgeable traders here. Tommy... glad you are on this board! mach
LOL!!! This is great!
If anyone is using Scottrade it would be nice to verify that fact!
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Great info tommy, def post of the day-
Are you the fellow that came from RB? If so that is very un-RB-ish of you.The highest short possible is .049, Im guessing most was done the day of the PR and days following from .049 down through .04- In other words they have to cover in this range or face a loss
Got to go to the city now. Darn it! It should stay here today around these prices
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Originally posted by Wooter:
Recent Trades - Last 10
Time Ex Price Change Volume
14:15:30 Q 0.038 +0.003 35,000
14:09:30 Q 0.0389 +0.0039 7,500
14:09:30 Q 0.037 +0.002 7,500
14:09:09 Q 0.038 +0.003 75,000
14:08:42 Q 0.037 +0.002 50,000
14:06:33 Q 0.036 +0.001 800
14:05:15 Q 0.037 +0.002 10,000
14:05:09 Q 0.0375 +0.0025 25,000
14:03:09 Q 0.0375 +0.0025 45,000
13:30:12 Q 0.0345 -0.0005 60,000
I found nothing on Scottrade! http://www.scottrade2.newsalert.com/bin/stocknews?Symbol=pghi It is coming soon though, and that is a fact. If you look at the time it took between filling the pre 14a and the def 14a, you can approximate the time it will take from the pre14c that we had and the def 14c to close the deal on the name change.
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Originally posted by chancey:
Tommy, I use Scottrade, I didn't see it, where would I go to look that up, do you know?
Where is BAMM!!!!!
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Originally posted by zo:
I use Scottrade and i see that they did in fact have the Name change notice there...If you look in real time...You will see it...zo...
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Originally posted by zo:
I use Scottrade and i see that they did in fact have the Name change notice there...If you look in real time...You will see it...zo...
Question, is this information referenced to a SEC filing? Could you please elaborate on the information you have confirmed, does exist on Scottrade. Thank you -
PGHI POINT GROUP HOLDINGS *NAME CHG* ###### CASH 0.038 #####.## ####.##
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Originally posted by zo:
Well it's not in detail, but it does have this next to the symbol...PGHI POINT GROUP HOLDINGS *NAME CHG* ###### CASH 0.038 #####.## ####.##
With so much HOT NEWS just around the corner... with the fact the MM can not short now and must COVER SHORTS... before the name change...with the HOT TECHS that we have discussed... with the ASCENDING TRIANGLE BREAKOUT PATTERN that is occuring... wow... I can not imagine many sellers at these levels...
*** Future's so Bright Indeed***
mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach... looking at Level II, this is good, only 1 MMs left @ 0.038
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach... looking at Level II, this is good, only 1 MMs left @ 0.038
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Mav... I do not see any MM at .038! Poof! mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
Wow, MMs gone @ 0.038, WOW!!!!!
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
New Banner just given to me so I can add it to my websites.
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Historically, the days before and after Christmas and Thanksgiving holidays have produced above average returns with strong frequency numbers for the markets Both the frequency and gains for these two particular trading days have been far superior to market averages. (Time in Time Out, Thackray & Lindsay.). Although I had not applied this trading strategy to bb stocks in the past, I was pleasantly surprised to see that PGHI traded well in the “days” preceding Thanksgiving with a trend that produced substantial gains in the following days. Can we assume that a similar pattern will happen into the Christmas Holiday. Never underestimate the power of the market?
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
MAV... I was reading your updated tech analysis... and am thinking out loud... Do you realize that the techs are just now becoming "Bullish"... The MACD Crossover is just the beginning of a very Bullish move forthcoming... .10 here we come!!!!!! mach
I checked out the Netflix Boston distribution center this morning. It wasn't worth getting a picture of it. They're hidden within a very large multi-business, 4 story corrugated steel building that was once an old shoe factory. Very unassuming as there were no names of any of the businesses on the outside. I walked inside and found them on the first floor. There was a small window on the door so I could peek inside. As BetN said of the Tacoma facility, it is about 5000 sq. ft. (this one looked about 70x70). Mostly just bench tops, pc's and about 20-30 workers stuffing envelopes. I read in an article yesterday that this particular center stocks 90,000 dvd's. Hope this clears up any worries some may have of how elaborate a facility the dc needs to be.
j160e
Wow... Outstanding DD on your behalf... for your own benefit and to the benefit of the board. It's nice to know that we are working together as such a great trading team. I hope you are able to accumulate more soon and that one day we are all greatly rewarded.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by j160e:
Wow! I just got in and things are looking great. I wish my overnight deposit posted to my account today. I hope I can get more tomorrow morning before it takes off.I checked out the Netflix Boston distribution center this morning. It wasn't worth getting a picture of it. They're hidden within a very large multi-business, 4 story corrugated steel building that was once an old shoe factory. Very unassuming as there were no names of any of the businesses on the outside. I walked inside and found them on the first floor. There was a small window on the door so I could peek inside. As BetN said of the Tacoma facility, it is about 5000 sq. ft. (this one looked about 70x70). Mostly just bench tops, pc's and about 20-30 workers stuffing envelopes. I read in an article yesterday that this particular center stocks 90,000 dvd's. Hope this clears up any worries some may have of how elaborate a facility the dc needs to be.
j160e
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
They aren't getting mine either!
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Let the MM's eat static.
***F.S.B***!!!
j160e
All we need is BAMM and we have a nice little party. Go to hell MM's!!!
Originally posted by tommy:
Also take into consideration that when a company files for a ticker symbol change, there must be NO SHORTS on the stock previous to the change. This means that MM's MUST COVER their shorts before the change or they will be in big trouble with the SEC!
Thanks for the cue.. I decided to take off and see Lord of the Rings too. After seeing PGHI's steady stroll towards .04, I felt confident to leave the screen for a few hours and enjoy this film with my son. I'm encouraged to come back and see that we closed at today's high of .039.
Go PGHI!
FlyWolf
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Originally posted by Moose:
charts look great! can't wait for any good news to come out for this company. Should have a strong close today on low volume.Wish I could be here till close, but I'm off to see Lord of the Rings!
Later guys, goodluck!
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
This was one of the most "kick-butt" exciting closes I've seen in a while.... We all saw it yesterday and today... again the MM tried a fake shake into the close only to chase and accumulate what shares they could! I Love it when they scramble! Looks like their conference call today didn't work... This was well planned yet the strong shareholders here did not budge! Love it! mach
Let's keep an eye on the filling of the Def 14c, it should be around 5:00-5:30PM on the next 5 days or so according to my observation with the fillings of the Pre 14a and Def 14a.
I am most excited about the bollinger bands, trading right below the upper bollinger, signaling a possible breakout to new highs. Once we get some more volume behind this, there is no telling how high it will go. Call me optimistic, but I would say .10-.12 is an conservative estimate of the future price. We shall see!
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Originally posted by PSU90:
The 6 month chart. Check out the MACD and Stokes!
daclyyay[dc][pd20,2!c4,9][vc60][iLp14,3,3!La12,26,9]&pref=G]http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=pghi,uu[m,a]dac lyyay[dc][pd20,2!c4,9][vc60][iLp14,3,3!La12,26,9]&pref=G
"The correction is over and the stock is starting a new rally. It is again time for bulls. You may make hefty profits if you buy this stock now and hold it until the next sell signal. Long-term trend is also bullish."
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
PSU, the techs on PGHI are simply amazing. Every indicator that I apply points to a bullish move in the future. You can have some of the techs calling bull and some calling bear, but when you have all of the indicators calling bull its a really good thing, once a year type scenario.I am most excited about the bollinger bands, trading right below the upper bollinger, signaling a possible breakout to new highs. Once we get some more volume behind this, there is no telling how high it will go. Call me optimistic, but I would say .10-.12 is an conservative estimate of the future price. We shall see!
Pre 14c: 2000-05-17
Def 14c: 2000-05-30
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13 days in between
Now here's the current name change process to go from Point Group Holding to GamezNFlix:
Pre 14c: 2003-12-11
Def 14c: 2003-12-??
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2003-12-11 + 13 days = 2003-12-24
Of course this is an extrapolation but it's right around the corner that's for sure!
GLTA!
I missed one hell of a close today...read the last 3 pages I missed and I gotta say we have some great DD here. Changing of name forces MM's to cover shorts (learned something new today!) Thats Sweet!...
This should take off nicely: we have to look forward to a name change, new website, PR on marketing, projected figures, new subscribers, gift subscriptions and paid email referrals...the list probably could go on and on...I won't forget to mention that the gaming industry is growing exponentially...wow...........
...sorry...I fainted...I need more shares!
Intraday PricesDate Time High Low Close Volume
12/23/03 15:58:17 0.039 0.039 0.039 42,000
12/23/03 15:55:11 0.039 0.039 0.039 4,000
12/23/03 15:54:40 0.036 0.035 0.036 95,000
12/23/03 15:52:58 0.035 0.035 0.035 47,500
12/23/03 15:51:58 0.037 0.036 0.036 65,000
12/23/03 15:50:18 0.038 0.038 0.038 15,700
12/23/03 15:47:31 0.039 0.037 0.038 166,500
12/23/03 15:45:14 0.039 0.038 0.038 55,000
12/23/03 15:40:56 0.038 0.038 0.038 5,000
12/23/03 15:33:19 0.037 0.037 0.037 20,000
12/23/03 15:32:27 0.038 0.037 0.037 60,000
12/23/03 15:29:35 0.038 0.037 0.037 100,000
12/23/03 15:23:55 0.038 0.038 0.038 50,000
12/23/03 15:23:08 0.038 0.038 0.038 8,000
12/23/03 15:21:44 0.038 0.038 0.038 20,000
12/23/03 15:08:21 0.038 0.037 0.038 70,000
12/23/03 14:56:10 0.038 0.037 0.038 55,000
12/23/03 14:49:49 0.038 0.038 0.038 25,000
12/23/03 14:47:13 0.038 0.037 0.037 8,000
12/23/03 14:41:16 0.038 0.038 0.038 50,000
12/23/03 14:38:10 0.038 0.037 0.038 60,000
12/23/03 14:32:15 0.038 0.037 0.038 30,000
12/23/03 14:28:53 0.038 0.037 0.037 120,000
12/23/03 14:27:14 0.037 0.036 0.037 5,000
12/23/03 14:26:21 0.038 0.038 0.038 30,000
12/23/03 14:21:46 0.036 0.036 0.036 60,000
12/23/03 14:15:34 0.038 0.038 0.038 35,000
12/23/03 14:09:33 0.038 0.037 0.038 140,000
12/23/03 14:06:36 0.036 0.036 0.036 800
12/23/03 14:05:20 0.037 0.037 0.037 35,000
12/23/03 14:03:11 0.037 0.037 0.037 45,000
12/23/03 13:30:15 0.035 0.034 0.034 120,000
12/23/03 13:02:19 0.039 0.038 0.038 14,000
12/23/03 11:57:27 0.034 0.034 0.034 45,000
12/23/03 11:55:50 0.034 0.034 0.034 5,000
12/23/03 11:52:23 0.039 0.039 0.039 5,200
12/23/03 11:52:06 0.039 0.039 0.039 5,000
12/23/03 11:42:50 0.034 0.034 0.034 5,000
12/23/03 11:41:10 0.034 0.034 0.034 5,000
12/23/03 11:27:47 0.035 0.034 0.035 40,000
12/23/03 11:25:03 0.039 0.039 0.039 50,000
12/23/03 11:21:21 0.039 0.039 0.039 40,000
12/23/03 11:12:51 0.036 0.034 0.035 50,000
12/23/03 10:55:42 0.035 0.035 0.035 7,000
12/23/03 10:54:13 0.035 0.034 0.035 76,000
12/23/03 10:53:00 0.037 0.037 0.037 23,000
12/23/03 10:49:41 0.037 0.037 0.037 46,000
12/23/03 10:48:52 0.037 0.037 0.037 5,000
12/23/03 10:43:56 0.037 0.037 0.037 39,500
12/23/03 10:32:10 0.037 0.037 0.037 13,000
12/23/03 10:24:04 0.037 0.037 0.037 17,400
12/23/03 09:54:42 0.034 0.034 0.034 50,000
12/23/03 09:46:31 0.036 0.036 0.036 5,000
12/23/03 09:43:28 0.034 0.034 0.034 2,000
12/23/03 09:40:37 0.036 0.036 0.036 10,000
12/23/03 09:37:24 0.036 0.036 0.036 15,000
12/23/03 09:33:11 0.036 0.036 0.036 5,000
12/23/03 09:32:39 0.036 0.036 0.036 63,000
Each line is the combination of trades for a 90 sec period
15-20 min Quote Delay
I enjoyed the movie very much, but to come home to see a close @ the high of the day, I enjoyed that even more...
So much to look forward to, I hope the next few months fly by!
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Originally posted by FlyWolf:
Moose,Thanks for the cue.. I decided to take off and see Lord of the Rings too. After seeing PGHI's steady stroll towards .04, I felt confident to leave the screen for a few hours and enjoy this film with my son. I'm encouraged to come back and see that we closed at today's high of .039.
Go PGHI!
FlyWolf
LOL!So tomorrow is a half day for the market according to some? I get a feeling we may get more of a gap up tomoorow.
Just getting home from the office and checked all the great posts.AMAZING!The people here are incredible.Just looked and it seems that once we hit.05 it is clear sailing till .11 am I reading it correctly?
Isn't sweet that the ball is in our court and everyone is holding strong.I will try to take out some of the .04's tomorrow if I can free up some time..
TRSTURGUT-18
TRST most are anticipating a Gap Up tomorrow, we will see
RSI is getting stronger
December 23
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cabbage22 - thank technical analysis for God
While I am at work I do not get the chance to keep a close eye on what's happening but am able to sign on from time to time and change some buy offers.
One of my groug is retired so he is able to keep tabs on the changes a little more.
I have spread the word of PGHI to several more of my friends and there might be some more strong hands purchaseing shortly.
We were able to pick up some more shares and help fuel the fire today.
I hope I am buying the shares off the weak hands and trying to bother the MM's a bit.
In any case my shares will be retired for the long run which will help everyone who stays with it.
Good day today guys and stay strong.
Ron B.
I had a lot of fills in small numbers for one buy. In the afternoon I changed my order and started getting fills.
When I leave for work in the morning the market is not open so my initial order is a guess. The market started higher or nobody was selling at first.
Not sure how many shares between us we were able to get but I think it was probably around 300,000.
Good to see everyone had a strong day.
Cheers
Nice to see you are on board. Personally, I do not like to have a software system or web sites tell me to buy or sell and when to buy or sell. What I do like is that in fact hundreds if not thousands of people do in follow Americanbulls and the Buy/Sell recommendations for stocks on their streamers. And when they read the following statement:
THE CORRECTION IS OVER AND THE STOCK IS STARTING A NEW RALLY. IT IS AGAIN TIME FOR BULLS. YOU MAY MAKE HEFTY PROFITS IF YOU BUY THIS STOCK NOW AND HOLD IT UNTIL THE NEXT SELL SIGNAL. LONG TERM TREND IS NOW BULLISH.
This certainly adds more "fuel to the fire" and will undoubtedly assist in our upside movement ahead.
Of course there is nothing wrong with following many of the extremely talented Technicians on the board.
Note the following exerpt from my Tech analysis on December 16th at the beginning of the thread.
A COMBINATION OF TECHNICAL ANALYSIS AND SIGNIFICANT INTERNAL DEVELOPMENTS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU FOR REVIEW. THIS IS AND EXTRAORDIANRY OPPORTUNITY FOR SUBSTANTIAL GAINS FROM CURRENT LEVELS. THE GREATEST "NEAR-TERM" GAINS BASED ON THIS ANALYSIS WILL LIKELY BE REALIZED BETWEEN DECEMBER 23RD, 2003 AND JANUARY 15TH, 2004 WITH ENTRY AT CURRENT TRADING LEVELS.
Sound familiar? Americanbulls is good... but sometimes a little good dd and tech analysis can give you a competitive advantage.
Welcome aboard. I hope you have a chance to read through as much of the thread as possible. There is incredible DD here which will answer most if not all of your questions.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by duke:
i've only been involved with pennystocks for a few months, reading this board and a few others. i finally took the plunge buying 55000 shares of pghi between .034 and .038. is americanbulls.com a good site for information? i'm familiar with commodities trading and tech charts. this looks like a good trade on the charts. these mms i keep hearing about sound like floor traders who like to run the stops.
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PERSONAL SUMMARY
For "long-term" investors, this is one of those lifetime opportunities that have the potential to substantially increase the value of your portfolio for years to come.
In the past I have missed to significant trading opportunities in which I could have gained "hundreds of thousands" of dollars with respect to potential investments. The reason I didn't was that I did not have the ability to hold onto shares and realize the full potential of my buying decision. I will not miss this opporunity again.
Remember that stocks do not move straight up or down. They move in trends and those whom are strategic, patient and confident in their positions are greatly rewarded. This has been proven time and time again. As always do your own DD and use your best judgement.
Looking for a significant Christmas GameZNflix Rally! Coming soon! mach
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Duke,Nice to see you are on board. Personally, I do not like to have a software system or web sites tell me to buy or sell and when to buy or sell. What I do like is that in fact hundreds if not thousands of people do in follow Americanbulls and the Buy/Sell recommendations for stocks on their streamers. And when they read the following statement:
THE CORRECTION IS OVER AND THE STOCK IS STARTING A NEW RALLY. IT IS AGAIN TIME FOR BULLS. YOU MAY MAKE HEFTY PROFITS IF YOU BUY THIS STOCK NOW AND HOLD IT UNTIL THE NEXT SELL SIGNAL. LONG TERM TREND IS NOW BULLISH.
This certainly adds more "fuel to the fire" and will undoubtedly assist in our upside movement ahead.
Of course there is nothing wrong with following many of the extremely talented Technicians on the board.
Note the following exerpt from my Tech analysis on December 16th at the beginning of the thread.
A COMBINATION OF TECHNICAL ANALYSIS AND SIGNIFICANT INTERNAL DEVELOPMENTS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU FOR REVIEW. THIS IS AND EXTRAORDIANRY OPPORTUNITY FOR SUBSTANTIAL GAINS FROM CURRENT LEVELS. THE GREATEST "NEAR-TERM" GAINS BASED ON THIS ANALYSIS WILL LIKELY BE REALIZED BETWEEN DECEMBER 23RD, 2003 AND JANUARY 15TH, 2004 WITH ENTRY AT CURRENT TRADING LEVELS.
Sound familiar? Americanbulls is good... but sometimes a little good dd and tech analysis can give you a competitive advantage.
Welcome aboard. I hope you have a chance to read through as much of the thread as possible. There is incredible DD here which will answer most if not all of your questions.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Have you and your savy business friends found any enlightenment from reading this particular thread. Im sure your many years of business and investing experiences may find our conversations ... just a little interesting.
The more I talk and interact with these board members... the more I learn. Today in fact I learned a few new things. One important lesson was the following message by Tommy:
"Also take into consideration that when a company files for a ticker symbol change, there must be NO SHORTS on the stock previous to the change. This means that MM's MUST COVER their shorts before the change or they will be in big trouble with the SEC!"
It certainly reinforces buying pressure when you know that the MM's both need to make sure that they cover their shorts & they can not force a stock down for accumulation via shorting.... ie... they have no choice but to buy.
Now talk about REAL TIME INVESTOR EDUCATION.
Nice to see you accumulated more shares today.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by Magoo:
Good to see everyone had a good PGHI day.While I am at work I do not get the chance to keep a close eye on what's happening but am able to sign on from time to time and change some buy offers.
One of my groug is retired so he is able to keep tabs on the changes a little more.
I have spread the word of PGHI to several more of my friends and there might be some more strong hands purchaseing shortly.
We were able to pick up some more shares and help fuel the fire today.
I hope I am buying the shares off the weak hands and trying to bother the MM's a bit.
In any case my shares will be retired for the long run which will help everyone who stays with it.
Good day today guys and stay strong.
Ron B.
Yes... the ball certainly is "in our court." By the way your previous message from last night was great. I hope that John Fleming does indeed move forward and use similar ideas. I do not expect his ideas to be the same... but I do expect there to be some really great ideas. Hopefully VentureDirect Worldwide... their marketing firm has some great new marketing ideas they are ready to unleash with and before the launch of the new site.
mach
quote:
Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
Hey MACH,Just getting home from the office and checked all the great posts.AMAZING!The people here are incredible.Just looked and it seems that once we hit.05 it is clear sailing till .11 am I reading it correctly?
Isn't sweet that the ball is in our court and everyone is holding strong.I will try to take out some of the .04's tomorrow if I can free up some time..TRSTURGUT-18
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quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Did anyone hear from KC about the distribution center today
Not yet. If I remember right, KC was passing through KY on his way somewhere (maybe to family for Christmas). Not sure how long the drive was, but he might not have access to a computer yet.
I can see by your post that you have not missed a single beat here. You are summarizing many of the big reasons of why our company is "headed in the right direction." Very well said. Great Summary. mach
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
Wow...!...I missed one hell of a close today...read the last 3 pages I missed and I gotta say we have some great DD here. Changing of name forces MM's to cover shorts (learned something new today!) Thats Sweet!...
This should take off nicely: we have to look forward to a name change, new website, PR on marketing, projected figures, new subscribers, gift subscriptions and paid email referrals...the list probably could go on and on...I won't forget to mention that the gaming industry is growing exponentially...wow...........
...sorry...I fainted...I need more shares!
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
The MM,s have not realized that I have not begun to fight
I like the sounds of that Magoo! Glad your group picked up more shares. I picked up another 45K myself today.
I am involved in a couple of good size companies who have a very low profile. I relate the operation of PGHI in some ways to how I do run my company.
Even though I am in manufacturing most of my product is transfered to the job without every going through my warehouse. 90% of product I never see
I do know for a fact that Blockbuster viedo handles their new product much in the same way. It goes to the outlets from their vendor. This saves double shipping and loads of hours.
In any case I kept out of the conversation as people were getting than uneasy feeling when they were looking at the site maps.
I do like what I have heard about the outlets and John Flemming seems to know what he is doing.
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Duke,Nice to see you are on board. Personally, I do not like to have a software system or web sites tell me to buy or sell and when to buy or sell. What I do like is that in fact hundreds if not thousands of people do in follow Americanbulls and the Buy/Sell recommendations for stocks on their streamers. And when they read the following statement:
THE CORRECTION IS OVER AND THE STOCK IS STARTING A NEW RALLY. IT IS AGAIN TIME FOR BULLS. YOU MAY MAKE HEFTY PROFITS IF YOU BUY THIS STOCK NOW AND HOLD IT UNTIL THE NEXT SELL SIGNAL. LONG TERM TREND IS NOW BULLISH.
This certainly adds more "fuel to the fire" and will undoubtedly assist in our upside movement ahead.
Of course there is nothing wrong with following many of the extremely talented Technicians on the board.
Note the following exerpt from my Tech analysis on December 16th at the beginning of the thread.
A COMBINATION OF TECHNICAL ANALYSIS AND SIGNIFICANT INTERNAL DEVELOPMENTS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU FOR REVIEW. THIS IS AND EXTRAORDIANRY OPPORTUNITY FOR SUBSTANTIAL GAINS FROM CURRENT LEVELS. THE GREATEST "NEAR-TERM" GAINS BASED ON THIS ANALYSIS WILL LIKELY BE REALIZED BETWEEN DECEMBER 23RD, 2003 AND JANUARY 15TH, 2004 WITH ENTRY AT CURRENT TRADING LEVELS.
Sound familiar? Americanbulls is good... but sometimes a little good dd and tech analysis can give you a competitive advantage.
Welcome aboard. I hope you have a chance to read through as much of the thread as possible. There is incredible DD here which will answer most if not all of your questions.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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All this is an education to me. As I have mentioned in the past most of my tradeing has been done by my broker. The pennies are entirely new.
I do not rely entirely on others but do need some suggestions from time to time.
What I do bring is maybe a little more buying power which might help to advance our cause.
With this I will probably need a little help. All the buys I have made so far is from a combination of myself and five others. Between us we do have some leverage to beat up on the MM's when nessary.
I look foward to a trip to visit John Flemming. This is to get a handle one what his plans are in the short, through the long term and how I might be able to invest in order to make everything fall in place in a timely order.
One area that I very interested in is his marketing plan.
In any case I am high on PGHI
Ron B.
Marketing will be one of the most important aspects of the companies success. Yes, much more important than how "pretty" a distribution center looks. In case you missed it... here is an exerpt from a recent PR with respect to a marketing company we wil be working with.
On November 5, 2003, PGHI announced that its subsidiary -- online video game rental company, VeeGeeZ.com, LLC -- has signed a contract with Venture Direct Worldwide of New York to handle its online marketing campaign. The experienced staff of Venture Direct Worldwide and VeeGeeZ management has developed a marketing plan to assist the company in moving to the next level.
Some of their previous clients have included: Adobe, Microsoft, Citigroup, AT&T, Intel, Xerox, and Fortune Magazine.
If you'd like to learn more online.
Hope this helps for now! And yes... John can certainly offer more insight.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
(See attached link:http://www.venturedirect.com/html/vdw_clients.htm)
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
MachAll this is an education to me. As I have mentioned in the past most of my tradeing has been done by my broker. The pennies are entirely new.
I do not rely entirely on others but do need some suggestions from time to time.
What I do bring is maybe a little more buying power which might help to advance our cause.
With this I will probably need a little help. All the buys I have made so far is from a combination of myself and five others. Between us we do have some leverage to beat up on the MM's when nessary.
I look foward to a trip to visit John Flemming. This is to get a handle one what his plans are in the short, through the long term and how I might be able to invest in order to make everything fall in place in a timely order.
One area that I very interested in is his marketing plan.
In any case I am high on PGHI
Ron B.
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
I look foward to a trip to visit John Flemming. This is to get a handle one what his plans are in the short, through the long term and how I might be able to invest in order to make everything fall in place in a timely order.One area that I very interested in is his marketing plan.
In any case I am high on PGHI
Ron B.
Ron....I know that all of us will be anxious to hear about your trip when it happens. The marketing plan is obviously the key to making the business grow. Your partcipation on the board is much appreciated! Whatever you can tell us after the visit, we will hang on every word. Whatever you can't tell us in the interest of company success, we'll understand.
I do know from past emails that I've sent/received from John Fleming, that he was concerned that certain information was leaked out to the message boards before it was released in PR's. He very much wants things to be done the right way from what I can tell. That's one (of many) of the reason's I am high on PGHI.
PSU
I do agree with John Flemming about giving out information to people on these boards. Roumers run wild.
This information is very valuable to a companies bottom line. I am sure that John Flemming is watching the bottom line very closely as the start up costs are very high.
I did read the message about the agency which they are going through for their advertisments and have already checked them out. They are Top Notch.
Given out early or to the masses when it is not time to do so can be very damageing. On the other hand handleing it correctly will bring enormous rewards.
The sub standard news release was probably as per design.
I have a house full of grandkids so I need to play pony now.
Thanks for all the help
Ron B.
Go PGHI
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Just got off the phone with one of my long time friends. He is one of the top people at Boeing. Big investor. This brings more buying power.Go PGHI
To everyone here.....enjoy the holidays and spend time with family if possible. You all have my best wishes for a happy holiday season!
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
PSUI do agree with John Flemming about giving out information to people on these boards. Roumers run wild.
This information is very valuable to a companies bottom line. I am sure that John Flemming is watching the bottom line very closely as the start up costs are very high.
I did read the message about the agency which they are going through for their advertisments and have already checked them out. They are Top Notch.
Given out early or to the masses when it is not time to do so can be very damageing. On the other hand handleing it correctly will bring enormous rewards.
The sub standard news release was probably as per design.
I have a house full of grandkids so I need to play pony now.
Thanks for all the help
Ron B.
As millions of people enjoy playing their own new interactive games this Holiday season they'll hardly be alone. An astonishing 35 percent of North Americans identified computer and video games as the most fun entertainment activity surpassing even the movies and television.
As for the people who create and develop these games, they’re also hoping Santa will leave something interactive and enormously challenging in their stockings this Christmas.
How many GameCubes & Playstations will people receive as Christmas Presents this year?
Millions...
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
***************
"Games have grown more diverse and will keep doing so in order to appeal to all generations and all kinds of players."
***************
Video game companies tapping older consumers
December 22, 2003
By Shelley Emling
Cox News Service
LONDON -- Kids better watch their new computer games closely this Christmas. Their grandparents might snatch them.
A new generation of mature consumers -- often called "gray gamers" -- are getting hooked on the small screen, and the industry is responding by developing new games that require thinking as well as shoot-'em-up instincts.
Older gamers say they are attracted to computer games because they improve personal reflexes and provide a link with grandchildren. They also keep one's mind active and don't require a partner to play, a plus for anyone who lives alone or is confined to their home.
Codemasters, one of Britain's largest game developers, found in a survey that many gray gamers play almost every day for between one and three hours at a time, and that some play for up to eight hours on a regular basis.
June Gill, 75, says she plays regularly in the afternoons while her husband, Raymond, also 75, tends to play in the evenings.
"We've been playing for 15 years after being introduced to computer games by our son," she said. "It keeps your brain active, and we spend about two to three hours playing most days."
Codemasters decided to step up its focus on older gamers after its survey last fall scotched the notion that most gamers are geeky teenage boys.
The survey found that only 21 percent of gamers were children or teens, 47 percent were in their 20s, and 32 percent were over 30. Half the oldest group said they were over 35.
"We then asked gamers to e-mail us if they were in their 50s, 60s, or even their 70s and very quickly we received more than 250 e-mails," said Rich Eddy, a spokesman for Codemasters.
The company deduced that gray gamers were a growing market that has yet to be fully tapped.
Codemasters is coming out next year with Wartime Command, a game that allows players to develop strategies for some of the best-known World War II conflicts.
There are other signs that games are attracting a mature audience. In its own survey, British media analyst Xtreme Information found this year that half of the over-50s who own a computer regularly play computer games.
In the United States, too, studies point to an increase in older gamers. A poll released in August by the Entertainment Software Association in Washington, D.C., found that game players now average 29 years old, with 17 percent of game players over the age of 50, up from 13 percent in 2000.
In U.S. stores, shelves already are crowded with World War II games including the Medal of Honor franchise, which has won fans by focusing more on historic detail than blood and gore.
"One reason 17 percent of game players are over age 50 is because there are more titles that are uniquely appealing to them," said Douglas Lowenstein, president of the software association.
Computer and video game software sales grew 8 percent in 2002 to $6.9 billion, according to the Entertainment Software Association.
In an effort to appeal to a broader consumer base, companies have started featuring more women in their ads for games and also have lowered their prices this holiday shopping season.
"Companies are recognizing that there are all sorts of people playing computer games these days," Codemasters' Eddy said. "Games have grown more diverse and will keep doing so in order to appeal to all generations and all kinds of players."
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quote:
Originally posted by DeportAllNabobs:
Hey Mach, do you think we will see a pullback today?
DeportAllNabobs
I know that there will be advances up and down for PGHI but I would suggest that you don"t sell any shares too soon. My goal is to try to push PGHI up over .05 over the next week. If it dose not happen on it's own then I am going in deep enough to make it happen.
Everyone who want's to get on board do so over the next weekas I do not want to get your shares. I am more interested in how this stock is going to do after it hit's .10 then you will see some real action.
Ron B.
Merry Christmas
quote:
Originally posted by DeportAllNabobs:
Hey Mach, do you think we will see a pullback today?
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CANDLESTICK CHARTING PATTERNS
ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN OCCURING
BREAKOUT IMMINENT
(Link Provided)
Let's talk about the ASCENDING TRIANGLE... This pattern is occuring here and will eventually lead to our BREAKOUT...
On the ascending triangle, the horizontal line represents overhead supply that prevents the security from moving past a certain level. It is as if a large sell order has been placed at this level and it is taking a number of weeks or months to execute, thus preventing the price from rising further. Even though the price cannot rise past this level, the reaction lows continue to rise. It is these higher lows that indicate increased buying pressure and give the ascending triangle its bullish bias. http://stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis/triangle-Ascending.html
.05 has been resistance on two previous occassions. Reaction lows continue to rise. When we have our final base established at .04 and our new name change and web site are released.... OUR ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN will lead to a BREAKOUT.
Also keep in mind.... as I've stated before. Because we have no previous buyers above .05... theres is ZERO upside resistance which means the BREAKOUT will be significantly stronger than most anticipate.
.10 and beyond will be here soon.
*** Future's so Bright ***
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
ASCENDING TRIANGLE AT PGHI ....
*** Post of the day Award ***
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Also take into consideration that when a company files for a ticker symbol change, there must be NO SHORTS on the stock previous to the change. This means that MM's MUST COVER their shorts before the change or they will be in big trouble with the SEC!
As per Tommy:
Pre 14c: 2000-05-17
Def 14c: 2000-05-30
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13 days in between
Now here's the current name change process to go from Point Group Holding to GamezNFlix:
Pre 14c: 2003-12-11
Def 14c: 2003-12-??
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2003-12-11 + 13 days = 2003-12-24
Of course this is an extrapolation but it's right around the corner that's for sure!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
I was checking out the past SEC fillings and here are the dates of the fillings they made to change the name from Syconet to Point Group Holding:Pre 14c: 2000-05-17
Def 14c: 2000-05-30
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quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
For those interested in how close we may be to the name change completion...
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
I agree Mach, we are ready!!, look at your level II right now for a nice surprice, BID 0.039, ASK 0.04 MMs working early today!!.
Point group has registered:
gamesnflix.com, gamesnflix.net, gamesnflix.biz and gamesnflix.us
Domainmasters.net has registered:
gameznflix.com,gameznflix.net,gameznflix.org gameznflix.biz, gameznflix.info, gameznflix.us
Domainmasters.net is clearly handling these sites for PGHI because if you go to any of the above sites, it shows a banner for veegeez.
It is really good to know that PGHI is being thorough by registering all possible domains to prevent internet squatters and imposters.
Another good sign that Fleming is a detail-oriented CEO....
JB
It looks like that often... but we continue to blow through the MM manipulation... As a matter of fact there was a wall at .039 yesterday that we ate through in less than 15 minutes into the close. It should disvolve today.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by blackice318:
Strong Resistance in the .04's range though.Need more support at the bid,it looks somewhat scary.
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quote:
Originally posted by :
[B][/B]
I went to register.com to check the WHOIS information about www.gamesnflix.com and www.gameznflix.com. Found out some good info.
Point group has registered:
gamesnflix.com, gamesnflix.net, gamesnflix.biz and gamesnflix.us
Domainmasters.net has registered:
gameznflix.com,gameznflix.net,gameznflix.org gameznflix.biz, gameznflix.info, gameznflix.us
Domainmasters.net is clearly handling these sites for PGHI because if you go to any of the above sites, it shows a banner for veegeez.
It is really good to know that PGHI is being thorough by registering all possible domains to prevent internet squatters and imposters.
Another good sign that Fleming is a detail-oriented CEO....
JB
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quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Look at the bid support beginning to build @ .039. mach
.04 gone in first 3 minutes! Gone! Bye Bye!
mach
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Blackie... and you were saying....04 gone in first 3 minutes! Gone! Bye Bye!
mach
We are getting Traders from Americanbulls today... Volume...
From Yesterdays Americanbulls...
The correction is over and the stock is starting a new rally. It is again time for bulls. You may make hefty profits if you buy this stock now and hold it until the next sell signal. Long-term trend is also bullish.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
And this is only the start of it, HOLD STRONG, HOLD STEADY!!!. Too many good things to come ahead!!!.
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Blackie... and you were saying....04 gone in first 3 minutes! Gone! Bye Bye!
mach
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Yes... it will continue for many days... as the MACD crossover is just occuring...We are getting Traders from Americanbulls today... Volume...
From Yesterdays Americanbulls...
The correction is over and the stock is starting a new rally. It is again time for bulls. You may make hefty profits if you buy this stock now and hold it until the next sell signal. Long-term trend is also bullish.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Wow! Remember... when we break .05 we will run......... very fast!!!!!!!!! There is zero... zilch... notta... upside resistance... None!!!!!!!!! mach[This message has been edited by machtabow2 (edited December 24, 2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Look at the volume!!!!!!! We've got great volume coming in... Outstanding!!!!! mach
CANDLESTICK CHARTING PATTERNS
ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN OCCURING
BREAKOUT IMMINENT
(Link Provided)
Let's talk about the ASCENDING TRIANGLE... This pattern is occuring here and will eventually lead to our BREAKOUT...
On the ascending triangle, the horizontal line represents overhead supply that prevents the security from moving past a certain level. It is as if a large sell order has been placed at this level and it is taking a number of weeks or months to execute, thus preventing the price from rising further. Even though the price cannot rise past this level, the reaction lows continue to rise. It is these higher lows that indicate increased buying pressure and give the ascending triangle its bullish bias. http://stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis/triangle-Ascending.html
.05 has been resistance on two previous occassions. Reaction lows continue to rise. When we have our final base established at .04 and our new name change and web site are released.... OUR ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN will lead to a BREAKOUT.
Also keep in mind.... as I've stated before. Because we have no previous buyers above .05... theres is ZERO upside resistance which means the BREAKOUT will be significantly stronger than most anticipate.
.10 and beyond will be here soon.
*** Future's so Bright ***
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Mav... Outstanding... Nice to have a visual of what we are talking about. mach
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JB
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
We have to build a strong base here at the 0.04s, this is important, remember we have seen nothing yet of the good things to come, THIS IS GREAT!!!.[This message has been edited by Mav (edited December 24, 2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by JEB7006:
I have to admit, i hope that we do not see a run up above .045 today (sorry...just being honest). As Mach has noted before, a slow walk to .05 would be the healthiest thing for us long-term holders (and I do not intend to leave this stock for at least a year or two, or more). If the stock runs up too quickly, it will bounce back down when the short term and day traders run with their quick gains. However, a nice steady walk-up over a few weeks will build a solid base (rather than an upwards resistance level) and guarantee the strong break out once we break the all-time high....JB
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Look at the bid support building at .041 Mav... this is exactly what we have been waiting for. Building a base in the .04's for our break-out!!!!!!! mach
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
YES, THIS IS IMPORTANT THAT EVERYONE KNOWS, WE NEED TO BUILD THIS BASE HERE AT 0.04s for our take off to 0.05 and to 0.1 AND BEYOND... This is what we have been waiting for, let's keep it, HOLD STRONG, HOLD STEADY...
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quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
... the end result is that we will break .05 and it will run without upside resistance... Whether it happens today... tommorrow... or next week is of the essence... It will happen that's a guarantee... and when it does... you will see some big movement... really big movement... People are taking notice... this company and concept is hot... In a few months these prices will only be a distant memory!!!!!!!! mach
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quote:
Originally posted by KC:
Can someone tell me the mm's code again i.e. 100 sale through 500 sale. I know it's not concrete but just for my own research. Thanx KC
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
100 sale means MM needs shares
200 sale means MM needs shares bad-lot of orders he cannot cover
300 sale means MM is going to take price down to get shares
400 sale means trade sideways
500 sale gapping up or down depending on which way the sale went
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
im sorry but what is an MM im a newbie and i got in at .037 with 15k shares
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
We are doing it, steady, steady ....
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quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Well... I think our tech educator members see that we are on the verge of a break-out... We have volume pouring in from Americanbulls readers... We have MM's who can not short at this time... and must cover shorts before the name change... We have our base building in the .04's for our final push beyond .05... Yes... I would say... the ball is certainly in our court isn't it... mach
I'm gonna walk away from the computer a little bit because my 2M shares will give me a heart attack!
GLTA and thanks to Mach for his enthusiasm, we need more people like you on this stock! Cheers!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Wow this is too beautiful, I'm glad that I haven't sold one single share since I got in at 0.008, I'm learning the true meaning of patience!I'm gonna walk away from the computer a little bit because my 2M shares will give me a heart attack!
GLTA and thanks to Mach for his enthusiasm, we need more people like you on this stock! Cheers!
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
Yes, patience is the key here, wait until we see the name change and the new website soon to be online, this will be fantastic!!!.
quote:
Originally posted by JustMe:
...One of my first purchases was in HLSH. I got a 9 bagger out of that one, and just recently sold out of that to move into PGHI. If anyone has followed HLSH, from March, you will see it has gone from a low of .08, to it's current price of 4.53. Why did I get out?......Well, simply put.....I see only a future 2-3 bagger from here in HLSH....What I see here, is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more potential. I got into this over the last two weeks for 315,00 shares, at an average price of just under .03 Mach has it right!!!****The future is SO bright here*****
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quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Mav... If we get a close around .045... we will be sitting pretty... If Tommy's speculation tht the SEC filing regarding the name change could appear today... and/or possibly Friday... We could get that extra boost to get us beyond .05... What's your take.... I wouldn't be suprised to see that PR regarding the web site launch coming very soon too... I guess... in summary I would have to say that we have a lot of ammunition to take us over the top once we establish our base. imho mach
JEB7006
Member posted December 24, 2003 09:27
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I went to register.com to check the WHOIS information about www.gamesnflix.com and www.gameznflix.com. Found out some good info.
Point group has registered:
gamesnflix.com, gamesnflix.net, gamesnflix.biz and gamesnflix.us
Domainmasters.net has registered:
gameznflix.com,gameznflix.net,gameznflix.org gameznflix.biz, gameznflix.info, gameznflix.us
Domainmasters.net is clearly handling these sites for PGHI because if you go to any of the above sites, it shows a banner for veegeez.
It is really good to know that PGHI is being thorough by registering all possible domains to prevent internet squatters and imposters.
Another good sign that Fleming is a detail-oriented CEO....
JB
Signal sent - Trade sideways at PPS $0.042 ... MM needs 2.5M shares & will pay $0.042 for them.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
From jwhite, a wise man and a friend on the RB board:Signal sent - Trade sideways at PPS $0.042 ... MM needs 2.5M shares & will pay $0.042 for them.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
From jwhite, a wise man and a friend on the RB board:Signal sent - Trade sideways at PPS $0.042 ... MM needs 2.5M shares & will pay $0.042 for them.
If you type in "video game rental" or "online game rental" or anything like that into a google search, the FIRST website that comes up under the sponsored links area (on the right hand side) is veegeez... Check it out!
Bottom line is that if they don't cover before the change, someone is getting fired for sure!
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Wow... good read.. nice to know... jwhite certainly is knowledgeable... Well they are not getting mine.... Sounds like they need to cover those shorts big time... Good news as usual... mach
from Dec. 17 post:
Yes it is... I'm watching macd today also... Appears the MACD histogram is beginning to move again upward toward the centerline. The MACD histogram is a great signal that precedes the MACD crossover by several days... and further reinforces my forecast that we will see a significant upward trend begin to develop around December 23rd... Only a few days before Christmas and then extending into the holidays! We should see substantial news supporting this move. mach
Thanks... I'm glad to see that you are reading though the thread. I do my best with analysis. There are never any 100% guarantees (Keep in mind I have been wrong on several occassions... but getting better)... It's always good to have ongoing developments internally within a company support any forecast. Also, it's good to get the imput of other board members as well. Mav, Cabbage, PSU and a few others are very good at tech analysis. Keep in mind that doesn't mean that every day will be an up day... up and down days will occur as we move forward but the "long-term" outlook of PGHI is very bright. Thanks again. We are a great trading team. mach
quote:
Originally posted by j160e:
Good morning all,
Another fantastic day! Mach, I was reading over some of the previous posts on this thread and you are to be congratulated. You were right on the money one week ago from today when you called for this run to begin on the 23rd. Thanks again, great work as usual!
j160efrom Dec. 17 post:
Yes it is... I'm watching macd today also... Appears the MACD histogram is beginning to move again upward toward the centerline. The MACD histogram is a great signal that precedes the MACD crossover by several days... and further reinforces my forecast that we will see a significant upward trend begin to develop around December 23rd... Only a few days before Christmas and then extending into the holidays! We should see substantial news supporting this move. mach
Record game sales roaring into overdrive
Wednesday, March 12, 2003 Posted: 11:40 AM EST (1640 GMT)
LONDON (Reuters) -- Global video game sales are projected to grow nearly 10 percent this year, extending a decade-long surge that has a lot of life left, analysts said.
London-based market research firm ScreenDigest and trade association Entertainment and Leisure Software Publishers Association (ELSPA) released their annual forecast, predicting sales in 2003 would hit $18.5 billion, another record.
According to the report, the sale of video game and so-called "edutainment/reference" software would grow 9.5 percent in 2003 from $16.9 billion, suggesting that waging a virtual bombing raid or racing a stolen car through city streets now rivals trips to the cinema as a favorite entertainment pastime.
Soaring popularity
Despite the global economic malaise, the popularity of video games continues to soar, a stark contrast to the music industry, which is having increasing difficulties selling compact discs.
"The market for video games has not peaked yet," said Ben Keen, research director for London-based research firm ScreenDigest.
....in volume terms, it will continue to grow," he said.
Consoles sold
In Europe, sales of video games and entertainment software are expected to top $6.3 billion this year, exceeding the $2.7 billion video game and DVD rental market, according to ScreenDigest.
The study also forecasts that 32 million new video game consoles will be sold in 2003. Last year, 30 million Sony PlayStation 2, Microsoft Xbox and Nintendo GameCubes were sold worldwide, the study said.
Since 1995, when the top-selling Sony PlayStation first hit the market, nearly three billion video game and leisure software units have been sold globally.
To all new visitors to this thread or investors in PGHI, I highly recommend reading through the posts here as you will find more DD than any one person could do in a reasonable amount of time. This is a great team!
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
j160e,Thanks... I'm glad to see that you are reading though the thread. I do my best with analysis. There are never any 100% guarantees (Keep in mind I have been wrong on several occassions... but getting better)... It's always good to have ongoing developments internally within a company support any forecast. Also, it's good to get the imput of other board members as well. Mav, Cabbage, PSU and a few others are very good at tech analysis. Keep in mind that doesn't mean that every day will be an up day... up and down days will occur as we move forward but the "long-term" outlook of PGHI is very bright. Thanks again. We are a great trading team. mach
Nice movement today, glad we stopped at .045- dont want to go too far too fast- nice walk to .05 is what we want.
We have small support at .038, large support at .035 - Remember half day only an hour and a half left!
This is my best christmas yet!
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Originally posted by Mav:
MMs playing games again ....
I'm glad to see BAMM made it in the action today- he is by far my favorite MM as far as liking MM's goes-
BAMM is a very important MM- notice where his ASK is- .058
I might switch my account over to BAMM, they have free market orders, and $5 limit orders, plus I like the idea of working right with a MM, check it out
http://www.brokerageamerica.com/
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Originally posted by ws_bbl:
What will happen after the ticker change? Will MM's drop the price again to cut losses from before the change, trying to get cheap shares? Thoughts?
I won't be online Friday, so I wanted the shares by the end of today. That's my last new money available until January.
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Originally posted by Mav:
My techs and charts look very good as of now, remember we are building a base here our goal is far away up from these levels.
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Originally posted by PSU90:
Exactly. Wish I'd had my new money available last week in the .02's, but I played the hand I was dealt. Picked up another 80K shares between yesterday and today. I will now target 75% of my position for very long hold (multiple $$ wish here). The other 25% will be trading shares depending on how the charts play out after all the big news coming soon. Still expecting to hold that 25% to somewhere above .10.
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Originally posted by Degs:
could someone post the time of market close today Eastern time? thank you Mike
Den
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Hmmm, maybe I'll look into doing the PPM, get a good price on the shares, forced to hold, and gives the company financing!
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Originally posted by PSU90:
Cabbage, I have all the PPM info that John Fleming sent me. I've thought about it too. That is all money straight to the company for growth. $5,000 (the minimum) is a pretty big chunk of change to me right now, so I'll have to wait till sometime in 2004 to rethink that possibility.
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Originally posted by Degs:
Just a Question, but I thought the min was $2,500?
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Originally posted by PSU90:
That was the original number thrown out...but when the final documentation was done, it is $5,000.
quote:
Originally posted by Degs:
So how many shares are they offering for that price?
The MM's are still trying to scare out some shares. Hold strong....great days are not far away IMO!
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Originally posted by Mav:
We already know what happend yesterday.
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Well, that was kind of anti-climactic today! My last sale ticker shows a final sale of 1,400 shares at .04 and as soon as that posted, the ask dropped to .039?The MM's are still trying to scare out some shares. Hold strong....great days are not far away IMO!
Of course techs are not always right, because they are AFTER THE FACT. Still holding strong- going long long long
I understand their style, but knowing what we know is coming, there is no way I'd daytrade this right now. The big move is coming soon and I wouldn't want to be on the outside looking in. After the big move is the time to consider playing the dips (at least that's how I look at it).
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
The techs are starting to get a little mixed now for the short term, might see some consolidation back to .035ish- but longer term still a long way to go.Of course techs are not always right, because they are AFTER THE FACT. Still holding strong- going long long long
Merry Christmas to all the great people on this thread. Have a safe and happy holiday season.
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Big winners of 2003.
The obvious winners of 2003 were, you guessed it, Tech stocks. Let us take a look at some of the big winners in 2003. All prices were estimated at close on December 18, 2003. In the last 52 weeks, Yahoo (YHOO) leapt from $16 and change to over $40. Amazon (AMZN) went from $18.43 to close near $49. NetFlix (NFLX) surged from $9.58 to $51 and change. Ask Jeeves (ASKJ) jumped from $2.40 to $18.64.
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My group was able to get some some more shares secured so those will be put to bed for the long run. Probably have had newer people come in and day trade today and run with the profits. Nothing wrong with that but I did buy their shares today and they can't have them back.
Friday is a short day for tradeing and I am not going into work. I plan on buying heavy on friday so if you are wanting to purchase shares then get in early. I will put in buy orders after an hour or two into the session. If you want to buy try to get in early as I need to fill a bigger boat. I will be trying to pick up about 1 million shartes and then see where the price stands. I would like to move up the base PGHI is at.
Like Mach had mentioned a slower step up gives this a stronger base.
PS I don"t like the MM's
Merry Christmas to all
'In 2002, consumers spent $20.3 billion buying and renting DVDs.'
DVD GEARED FOR BIGGEST 4TH QUARTER EVER
More than Two Billion DVD Titles Shipped Since Launch
DVD Players on Target to be in More Than Half of U.S. Homes by Year-End
LOS ANGELES (Oct. 21, 2003) - DVD title shipments continue at a record pace as the industry ramps up for the holiday selling season. In the third quarter of 2003, nearly 215 million DVD software units shipped to retail, a 40 percent increase over the same period last year. According to figures compiled by Ernst & Young on behalf of the DEG: Digital Entertainment Group (DEG), the total number of units shipped in North America has reached more than two billion since the DVD format's launch in 1997.
NORTH AMERICAN DVD-VIDEO SOFTWARE SHIPMENTS BY QUARTER (in millions)
QUARTER 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003
1st Quarter N/A 3.3 11.1 29.0 69.2 120.1 231.7
2nd Quarter N/A 4.1 13.9 33.2 81.7 152.2 195.5
3rd Quarter 2.3 5.9 29.0 42.7 75.9 153.3 ---
4th Quarter 3.2 11.8 44.0 77.5 137.6 259.4 ---
YEARLY TOTAL 5.5
25.1 98.0 182.4 364.4 685.0 641.8
TOTAL SHIPMENTS
(since launch) 30.6 128.6 311.0 675.4 1,360.4 2,002.2
(a/o 9/30/03)
Figures compiled by Ernst & Young on behalf of the DEG: Digital Entertainment Group
Industry Metrics
• In 2002, consumers spent $20.3 billion buying and renting DVDs.
• In 1999, 4.1 million DVD players shipped in the U.S. 4.4 million DVD players shipped in the first quarter of 2003 alone.
• DVD represented over 57% percent of consumer home video spending.
• In the third quarter of 2003, nearly 215 million DVD software units shipped to retail, a 40 percent increase over the same period last year.
• The total number of units shipped in North America has reached more than two billion since the DVD format's launch in 1997.
Staggering numbers!The growth potential for this company just like its stock is on the uptick.With the mix of games n flix it is just a huge marketplace.Lets knock out those MM's on Friday so we can see .05 by Tuesday.That would be a nice way to begin the New Year.HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!
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Ok, question here for everyone....lets say the new website comes out and the name change is all done and we are at the end of January....lets also say that the stock didn't break the .10 Where will we stand. The company still will have potential...but it sounds like we will be in for a looooong wait if that’s the case.
Looks like we have strong support at .038 at then again at .035...the resistance seems kind of scattered on the way up....I hope we are close to .05 by the time the website comes out..
Everyone have a great Christmas....and I guess we will see who the true PGHI addicts are when we see if anyone writes on Christmas day.
Walt
Magoo, your post sure has me bummed that I will be offline on Friday. I'd love to watch the action on my level 2 screen! I'll be logging on asap Friday night to see how it all went.
Merry Christmas
PSU
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Originally posted by Magoo:
Just got back in from work today and can see all the activity which has taken place. Good to see that we are still in the .039 or .04 range which seems to be a good base at this time. It was just a few days ago we were at .03My group was able to get some some more shares secured so those will be put to bed for the long run. Probably have had newer people come in and day trade today and run with the profits. Nothing wrong with that but I did buy their shares today and they can't have them back.
Friday is a short day for tradeing and I am not going into work. I plan on buying heavy on friday so if you are wanting to purchase shares then get in early. I will put in buy orders after an hour or two into the session. If you want to buy try to get in early as I need to fill a bigger boat. I will be trying to pick up about 1 million shartes and then see where the price stands. I would like to move up the base PGHI is at.
Like Mach had mentioned a slower step up gives this a stronger base.
PS I don"t like the MM's
Merry Christmas to all
MACH
Nice Post. I'm glad to see that as an investor you have taken the time to read not only this thread, but the previous thread. There certainly are many bright minds following GameZNflix (PGHI) and the ongoing developments of the company and it's subsidiary Veegeez.com. It's exciting to know that we are all on the ground floor of a company that has such explosive potential. Keep in mind you do not need to be a tech guru to post useful information here... Any insight, marketing ideas, articles you find on the net... are greatly appreciated. Looking forward to a great New Year ahead! mach
quote:
Originally posted by woody:
Hi all who have been posting on this thread and the previous thread on this topic. I am very new to investing and try to read as much as I can everywhere I can to try and learn as much I can and just came across this site while looking for more ways to learn and wanted to let all you know who are giving out these tech numbers and examples (You know who you are) that you are about the best teachers I've found so far on the web anywhere. You guys should start your own TA web site. Also just wanted to let everyone know that's counting that I took my entire third quarter bonus opened an ameritrade account and got in on 100,000 shares at .03 last week and I'm in it for the long haul with everyone else. I wish I had some useful Info. post here but like I said I'm very new at this and just trying to learn. And since I have read Every single post on the last 2 threads wanted to let you all know that there are probably more people in this with you than you know. In fact I have told others at work about PGHI and at least 5 of these people are in too. Also a big thanks to Mach. For getting these threads started and keeping them going. I'm hooked.
VIDEO RENTAL MARKET BOOMING
In a time of war, people in broadcasting want to know what people are going to watch. What was anticipated was that people would watch coverage very extensively and other types of programming (movies, video games, reality shows, etc.) would be forgotten. That happened in the first 72 hours. But after that, normal patterns resumed. And, in fact, video rentals are booming right now. In spite of - or maybe because of - the war, the numbers are huge. People want diversion from the war, and they’re getting it from movies. Netflix, the subscription video service, has even crossed the million-member mark in recent days. People see these services as a fixed expenditure, so they know exactly what they will pay. And they don’t have to leave their home or deal with unanticipated late fees. The video game market is also booming. It’s actually even bigger than the video movie market these days. And, according to the New York Times, Netflix has inspired about 15 to 20 video game companies that have started their own subscription rental businesses using a similar business model. Video games are much more expensive than movies, at about $50 or $60 a pop. And, sometimes you get bored playing the same game over and over. So, renting games has become a booming business.
Saturday, September 6, 2003
Videogames: Next Big Thing
"Music? Sales down. Hollywood? Hit or miss. Tech? Flat." So, what are the options? Writes Fortune:
Games are becoming culturally pervasive, stealing time and dollars from other consumer entertainment options like movies, television, and, ahem, magazines. On average an American will spend 75 hours this year playing videogames, more than double the amount of time spent gaming in 1997 and eclipsing that of DVD or tape rentals today, according to market research firm Veronis Suhler Stevenson. Of the other forms of entertainment, only Internet usage is expected to grow faster than videogames—a fact that the videogame makers plan to use to their advantage.
And with time comes money. Though the global videogame market was just $28 billion in 2002, some people think it's on track to rival the movie, music, or television industries, perhaps by the end of this decade. Music sales have been falling in recent years, the moviegoing experience hasn't changed that much since Gone With the Wind, and network TV is on the skids. The games business has been racking up double-digit growth rates for the past decade, even through the recent tech slump.
Electronic Arts wants to become the "biggest and best entertainment company in the world", according to its CEO Lawrence Probst III. Adds Fortune: "Its stock recently hit an all-time high of $90, making the $13.2-billion-market-cap company the world's fourth-largest software maker, behind Microsoft, Oracle, and SAP."
Nov/Dec exerpts, Yahoo Entertainment news...
Top cable networks like Spike TV, MTV and Game Show Network are focusing on original programming that revolves around video games in an effort to regain the loyalty of an audience segment coveted by advertisers.
If the nation's largest cable carrier, Comcast, purchases TechTV -- a transaction that has not been confirmed by either party, despite widespread media speculation -- video game programming likely would get a further boost. If a purchase is finalized, Comcast is expected to combine San Francisco-based TechTV, which reaches 40 million homes, with its Los Angeles-based video game channel, G4, which reaches 11 million homes. Such a combination would give dedicated video game programming a much larger TV presence.
Several factors, beyond money, are fueling Hollywood agencies' current interest. Led by PlayStation and PlayStation 2, and including Xbox and GameCube, there are more than 60 million video-game consoles in U.S. homes today. More than 168 million Americans play video games.
While the U.S. market is the fastest-growing sector, it's only a part of a worldwide audience that plays video games. Couple this global reach with an elusive 18- to 34-year-old male population that spends more time playing games than watching TV, and you can see what's grabbing the attention of major Hollywood players.
"There's a whole new generation of Hollywood producers, writers, directors and actors that grew up playing games," explained Boesky, the video-game agent for International Creative Management. "These people understand games, they play games, and they often want to become involved in games."
PricewaterhouseCoopers LLC
And by 2007, the company forecasts, software and hardware for games will be worth about $56 billion in North America alone. Put simply, video gaming is the world's fastest growing form of entertainment. "Nobody would be in this business if they weren't making money," says Lisa Webber, Microsoft Canada's marketing manager of PC games.
There are more profits on the horizon. Technological advances in computer chip development enable companies to put faster console systems and games with better graphics out year after year, so consumers keep having to upgrade their systems and buy updated titles if they want to enjoy the latest and greatest. Currently, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo dominate the console industry. They sell their systems at cost or even at a loss, and then make their profits on the games.
11/18/2003
[UPDATE] Survey of console gamers comes up with a mixed bag of preferences. GameSpot talks to the survey's lead reseacher, Billy Pidgeon.
Today, game industry analysts from the Zelos Group released findings that paint an interesting-but-complicated picture of today's typical console gamer.
- Game rentals add to the industry's overall bottom line. The study reports that about one third of respondents indicate that they rent games and these users have a high propensity to use rentals as a means to inform purchase decisions. Hardcore gamers are more likely to rent games than their avid and casual gamer counterparts. Almost half of hardcore gamers indicate they rent at least one game a month, and almost 20 percent say they rent five or more.
GS: What is driving the increased reliance or interest in renting games? Is it high retail prices? Do rentals steal revenues from retail sales or do rentals compliment and drive sales?
BP: Rental is a reliable and inexpensive method to try a game before buying it. Rental is a negative for inferior games and for short games that can be easily finished within a rental period and offer little replay value. Game rentals bring in big revenues for rental outlets and can complement and drive sale for good games with depth and replay value.
Video Rental Shows ``Extraordinary Strength'': Despite Growth of DVD Sales and Video-on-Demand, Rentals Hold Their Own
ENCINO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 2, 2003--Complementing the incredible growth in sales of DVDs and despite the challenges from competing technologies such as video-on-demand, video rental remains the American public's favorite way to view new release movies, Bo Andersen, president of the Video Software Dealers Association, said today. Andersen noted that the total number of DVDs and VHS cassettes rented in 2003 will be approximately the same as in 2002.
"Rather than seeing a flat video rental market as a sign of weakness, we see it as a sign of extraordinary strength," Andersen said. "With DVDs offered for purchase at remarkably attractive prices and cable and satellite companies aggressively promoting video-on-demand, one would expect pundits to speculate that the rental market would see a dramatic drop. But, in fact, that drop has not happened."
VSDA noted that:
-- DVD sales have seen double-digit increases in the past several years, but those sales have not significantly eroded the rental market. In the first half of 2003, combined DVD and VHS sales were up 27%, compared with the first half of 2002. Rentals were up 3.5% over the same period, and currently are about the same as they were in 2002. "The home video industry is offering the American public a choice between renting and buying, and the public is choosing both," Andersen noted.
-- DVD players have fallen dramatically in price and are on the top of all the gift recommendation lists this holiday season. "With DVD players falling below $30 in some instances, many lower-income households - who are more likely to rent than buy - will make the switch to DVD this quarter," Andersen predicted.
-- Many rental stores are generating an increasing share of their revenue from previously viewed DVDs, which are extremely popular. According to VSDA's most recent "benchmarking" report on independent video stores, the typical respondent video store generated approximately 14% of its revenue from sales of new and previously viewed videos (primarily DVDs), which is greater than the 11% of revenue generated from extended viewing fees (a.k.a. "late fees").
-- Video rental remains relatively constant, even though other entertainment options - such as broadcast television and theatrical admissions - have suffered decreases this year.
Partner and Senior Analyst -
Billy Pidgeon is a fifteen year veteran of the interactive electronic entertainment industry.
Research Associate -
For the last four years David Hu has been involved in marketing in the Videogame software industry.
Game Rental Business Adds Ancillary Revenues and Impacts Sales. About one third of respondents indicate that they rent games and these users have a high propensity to use rentals as a means to inform purchase decisions. Moreover, hardcore gamers are more likely to rent games than their avid and casual gamer counterparts. Almost half of hardcore gamers indicate they rent at least one game a month, and almost 20 percent say they rent 5 or more.
Consoles Can be Positioned as General Purpose Entertainment Appliances. With over 50 percent of survey respondents favoring DVD playback as the number one additional console feature, consumers do not have difficultly viewing the game console as a general purpose entertainment appliance.
Solitary Gaming Remains Prevalent. Despite interest in playing against others in an online environment, gaming remains largely a solitary activity and games that rely on social interaction have a relatively narrow addressable market. Over 73 percent of respondents claim to play games alone almost always or most of the time, and only 2 percent claim that they never play alone.
CANDLESTICK CHARTING PATTERNS
ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN OCCURING
BREAKOUT IMMINENT
(Link Provided)
Let's talk about the ASCENDING TRIANGLE... This pattern is occuring here and will eventually lead to our BREAKOUT...
On the ascending triangle, the horizontal line represents overhead supply that prevents the security from moving past a certain level. It is as if a large sell order has been placed at this level and it is taking a number of weeks or months to execute, thus preventing the price from rising further. Even though the price cannot rise past this level, the reaction lows continue to rise. It is these higher lows that indicate increased buying pressure and give the ascending triangle its bullish bias. http://stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis/triangle-Ascending.html
.05 has been resistance on two previous occassions. Reaction lows continue to rise. When we have our final base established at .04 and our new name change and web site are released.... OUR ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN will lead to a BREAKOUT.
Also keep in mind.... as I've stated before. Because we have no previous buyers above .05... theres is ZERO upside resistance which means the BREAKOUT will be significantly stronger than most anticipate.
.10 and beyond will be here soon.
*** Future's so Bright ***
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
ASCENDING TRIANGLE AT PGHI ....
Potential breakout alert using stochastics: http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1805873
Current PGHI chart using his settings for Stokes: http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=PGHI,uu[m,a]daclyyay[db][pd20,2!c4,9][vc60][iLh66,5,3!La12,26,9]&pref=G
Love the look of that PGHI chart!
PSU
Originally posted by tommy:
Also take into consideration that when a company files for a ticker symbol change, there must be NO SHORTS on the stock previous to the change. This means that MM's MUST COVER their shorts before the change or they will be in big trouble with the SEC!
TOMMY LATER CLARIFIED IT IS THE ACTUAL SYMBOL CHANGE THAT HE WAS REFERRING TO.
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IMHO we have seen several instances of MM manipulation with PGHI. I love it when we have the upper-hand. Will a similar scenario as the attached occur upon our name change completion and symbol change on the bb. I’ll be around to find out! It’s coming soon! Very soon! mach
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"But after the company
discovered it was being victimized by naked shorting by market
makers, it changed its trading symbol to IRAC, effective July 5,
2002, which thwarted the efforts of the market makers and resulted in
a jump from $0.02 as of the next trading day after the symbol change
to $0.09 as of October 14, 2002."
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In addition, as a result of substantial evidence that the BBAN
shareholders have been victimized by certain market makers using a
technique known as "naked shorting", BBAN's securities counsel is
investigating the trading patterns of the stock since the plan
confirmation date of July 30, 2002. "Naked shorting" is the illegal
practice of short selling shares that haven't been borrowed, or that
don't exist. Based upon the current results of this investigation as
well as the history of BBAN's common stock, the company is beginning
the process of a symbol change which would require all shareholders
to exchange their BBAN common stock for stock with the new trading
symbol.
The company is closely monitoring the activity surrounding two other
publicly traded companies which have been victimized by naked
shorting, Intrac, Inc. and Jag Media Holdings. Intrac, Inc. was once
traded on the OTCBB under the symbol ITCN. But after the company
discovered it was being victimized by naked shorting by market
makers, it changed its trading symbol to IRAC, effective July 5,
2002, which thwarted the efforts of the market makers and resulted in
a jump from $0.02 as of the next trading day after the symbol change
to $0.09 as of October 14, 2002. Similarly, Jag Media Holdings was
also victimized by naked shorting. Convinced that naked shorts were
behind the problem, Jag recapitalized its stock by retiring the old
JagNotes.com shares and replacing them with new Class A and B shares
in Jag Media Holdings. In addition to the recapitalization, Jag also
filed a lawsuit against over one hundred brokerage institutions.
Keith McAllister, co-Chairman of the Board of BBAN, stated, "we are
not going to sit here and be victimized by individuals or
institutions and their agendas. Mr. Williams, myself and our counsel,
Steve Oshins and Ron Stauber, are working aggressively to protect the
shareholders and are prepared to fight for their value."
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I see you have been busy this morning,
Merry Christmas
I have had my son and grandkids over this morning and they have gone for the rest of their visiting. I will go over to their home for Christmas dinner tonight. Hope you do have family around you as this is the time of year which draw all who are close to us together.
Good posts this morning. It really helps to make all of us to understand possibilities which a bussiness like this will most likely to grow into over the next couple of years.
I am going to be buying heavy for the next couple of weeks starting tomorrow. I am trying to bring up the volume at a steady pace. I know that there will be advances and retractions but I am in this for the long run so am only interested in the overall upward pattern.
I am going into my Broker on Monday (Smith Barney) and he is going to be giving me some advise as to how to handle to MM's games.
I also have had several of other friends getting interested in PGHI which are high rollers. They will be purchaseing on their own.
Once we get into the higher buying numbers I will be done purchaseing common stock. By that time this is going to be running like a freight train and we can all go for the ride as other investors will be climbing on and we can just sit back and watch it grow.
I am going to be talking with John Flemming on my visit. If he is not available during my trip then I will make an appoitment with him ASAP to talk about investing in the PPM or else wise. I do have about Three million to put in so I will be talking to about the best way to do this. A larger influx of money tends to change a companies plans in order to make the best use of it.
This influx of money will probably change his time frame. This will take place in stages as goals are met and controlls are put in place.
That is a general overlook for my plans so everyone get on board and hang on before we really start to see this venture get out of reach.
Ron B.
Can you E-Mail me.I would like to discuss some things with you that are not related to this thread. bbdad1836@aol.com
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Thanks
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
MachI see you have been busy this morning,
Merry Christmas
I have had my son and grandkids over this morning and they have gone for the rest of their visiting. I will go over to their home for Christmas dinner tonight. Hope you do have family around you as this is the time of year which draw all who are close to us together.
Good posts this morning. It really helps to make all of us to understand possibilities which a bussiness like this will most likely to grow into over the next couple of years.
I am going to be buying heavy for the next couple of weeks starting tomorrow. I am trying to bring up the volume at a steady pace. I know that there will be advances and retractions but I am in this for the long run so am only interested in the overall upward pattern.
I am going into my Broker on Monday (Smith Barney) and he is going to be giving me some advise as to how to handle to MM's games.
I also have had several of other friends getting interested in PGHI which are high rollers. They will be purchaseing on their own.
Once we get into the higher buying numbers I will be done purchaseing common stock. By that time this is going to be running like a freight train and we can all go for the ride as other investors will be climbing on and we can just sit back and watch it grow.
I am going to be talking with John Flemming on my visit. If he is not available during my trip then I will make an appoitment with him ASAP to talk about investing in the PPM or else wise. I do have about Three million to put in so I will be talking to about the best way to do this. A larger influx of money tends to change a companies plans in order to make the best use of it.
This influx of money will probably change his time frame. This will take place in stages as goals are met and controlls are put in place.
That is a general overlook for my plans so everyone get on board and hang on before we really start to see this venture get out of reach.
Ron B.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by coumars:
QUESTION,
I'm newbiem, live in florida, If need PPM, what should I do, How long, I need to hold them and how I can sell. Do I need to me Mr.Flemming personaly to get PPM.Thanks
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
These would be restricted shares for one year. You would need to contact John Flemming and let him know you are interested. He will give you the details. email: ceo@pghi.biz*** Future's so Bright ***
mach[This message has been edited by machtabow2 (edited December 25, 2003).]
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However I do pretty good at bar chart reading by drawing my lines and so forth and am trying to learn candlestic, and tecs. All help would be appreciated. Thanks Mike
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Originally posted by PSU90:
Mach....you are on a tear today! Merry Christmas! I'm only online for about 10 minutes. You should have an email from me. According to Omni on Ihub, we are reading his method correctly by changing those parameters on the Stokes. Just another potential indicator of a breakout coming!Potential breakout alert using stochastics: http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1805873
Current PGHI chart using his settings for Stokes: daclyyay[db][pd20,2!c4,9][vc60][iLh66,5,3!La12,26,9]&pref=G]http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=PGHI,uu[m,a]dac lyyay[db][pd20,2!c4,9][vc60][iLh66,5,3!La12,26,9]&pref=G
Love the look of that PGHI chart!
PSU
Adrenalix states… “ What do breakout companies have in common? A CULT-like following. Seriously. Look at Apple Computer owners, TIVO customers and Netflix subscribers. They swear by those products and services and love them. This thread alone indicates how dedicated many shareholders are to the company.”
Woody states…. “Also just wanted to let everyone know that's counting that I took my entire third quarter bonus opened an ameritrade account and got in on 100,000 shares at .03 last week and I'm in it for the long haul with everyone else.”
ranger6922 states... "AWSOME! i stumbled across pghi by accident doing a stock screen on penny stocks last friday. i was so floored by its the potential. i wired the money to ameritrade this morning and was able to pick it up this afternoon..."
Magoo states…. “My group picked up about 900,000 shares in the first couple of hours today. We are in the for the long run so those shares will be frozen for a while. I also have had several of other friends getting interested in PGHI which are high rollers. They will be purchasing on their own.”
Tommy states…. “Wow this is too beautiful, I'm glad that I haven't sold one single share since I got in at 0.008, I'm learning the true meaning of patience!”
Duke states…. “i've only been involved with pennystocks for a few months, reading this board and a few others. i finally took the plunge buying 55000 shares of pghi between .034 and .038.”
knee-hi-boot-gurl states…. “Finally got my fill! Probally bid too much but i just couldn't take it anymore! Sold the rest of my penny stocks to make room for PGHI!”
jr states… “i've been holding/adding PGHI since october and have not sold a single share, nor do i plan on it anytime soon... i also got both my father and my brother to invest in pghi, as well as my friend's father, who used to be a stock broker himself. the potential here is mind-boggling!!!”
Wooter states. “Yeah, I am having fun. I don't do much else anymore. Work, who needs work.”
Anna states… “Holy Cow!!!! Watch this baby go!”
Jeb States… “I think that we could easily see a run up over the next few months to .25-.50, all the while seeing PGHI using the increase in stock price to get private placement investment and raise significant capital. At that point, if all things are going well, I would love to see a 1 for 5 or 1 for 10 reverse split, which would place PGHI on the map for listing on the NASDAQ and increase the exposure to the "big" players and other investors (who of course will look at the stock price only dreaming that they got in back when the stock was at these levels)...”
aawhite12 ... “this stock is really going to climb faster with this in-flux of capital coming in sooooo fast!”
Mav states… “Smart buyers are getting in now... and they keep accumulating shares for the big run.”
JustMe… One of my first purchases was in HLSH. I got a 9 bagger out of that one, and just recently sold out of that to move into PGHI. If anyone has followed HLSH, from March, you will see it has gone from a low of .08, to it's current price of 4.53. Why did I get out?......Well, simply put.....I see only a future 2-3 bagger from here in HLSH....What I see here, is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more potential. I got into this over the last two weeks for 315,000 shares, at an average price of just under.
Marcidius states… “QUITE a relief to get a position this morning before the real gains started. This is just a twinkle in our eye I have a feeling... So much DD going on, so many good points, there is a lot going for us. I am VERY HAPPY I'm in...haha”
TRSTURGUT-18 states… “This company is laying down the foundation for the future and that takes time and patience.They are not looking for instant gratification but or a quick hit.When you hire great people they will do great things and I believe that is the path of GAMES N FLIX.Remember the marketing has not even been tapped into yet...when that starts this will take off like a rocket…”
Chrissy states… “Hi all just like to say all PGHI long investors will be rewarded in my opnion.this is a great company with a great future.2004 will be our year.”
Zo states… “...I'm holding this has the stock that will make me rich too...:-)...”
V_lad states… “PGHI will change our lives for the better in 2004! My biggest challenge will be dealing with the taxes on a substantial profit.”
Cabbage states... " have a feeling I will not be selling for a few years. I was fortunate enough to get some of my family members involved with PGHI to spread the holiday cheer."
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Hearing Magoo's comments today are very encouraging, I have a feeling I will not be selling for a few years. I was fortunate enough to get some of my family members involved with PGHI to spread the holiday cheer.
Looking foward to tomorrow- keep an eye on ARES, not long yet, but looking bullish ;-)
Half day tomorrow- can't wait
Merry Christmas to All!
PGHI: POINT GROUP HOLDINGS INC.
EXTRAORDIANRY OPPORTUNITY FOR SUBSTANTIAL GAINS FROM CURRENT LEVELS.
POINT GROUP HOLDINGS INC. TO CHANGE CORPORATE NAME TO GAMEZNFLIX INC.
PRIOR TO SYMBOL CHANGE ALL MARKET MAKERS MUST COVER ALL SHORT POSITIONS.
GAMEZNFLIX INC. SUBSIDIARY VEEGEEZ.COM IS THE ONLY PUBLICLY TRADED ONLINE VIDEO GAME RENTAL COMPANY
NEW AND ADVANCED VEEGEEZ.COM WEB SITE TO BE LAUNCHED WITHIN TWO WEEKS
VIDEO GAMING IS THE WORLD’S FASTEST GROWING FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT. EXPERTS BELIEVE THAT IT’S ON TRACK TO RIVAL THE MOVIE MUSIC OR TELEVISION INDUSTRIES, PERHAPS BY THE END OF THE DECADE.
AS INDICATED BY THE CORPORATE NAME CHANGE GAMEZNFLIX INC. WILL SOON EXPAND IT’S REACH INTO THE DVD RENTAL WORLD.
NETFLIX PULLED OFF A DOT-COM IPO AND REACHED PROFITABILITY FASTER THAN ANYONE PREDICTED. SHARES LEAPED FROM $4 TO $60 IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS.
VEEGEEZ HAS CONTRACTED WITH VENTURE DIRECT WORLDWIDE OF NEW YORK TO HANDLE IT’S ONLINE MARKETING CAMPAIGN. VENTURE DIRECT CLIENT’S INCLUDE MICROSOFT, ADOBE, CITIGROUP, AT&T, INTEL, XEROX, FORTUNE MAGAZINE AND MANY OTHER SUCCESSFUL COMPANIES.
TECH ANALYSIS INDICATING LIKELY BREAKOUT FROM CURRENT TRADING LEVELS WILL OCCUR SOON. MACD BULLISH CROSSOVER. BOLLINGER BANDS TIGHT. ON BALANCE VOLUME INCREASING.
CANDLESTICK ANALYSIS INDICATING ASCENDING TRIANGLE DEVELOPMENT. HIGHER LOWS THAT INDICATE INCREASED BUYING PRESSURE.
AMERICAN BULLS RECOMMENDATION: DECEMBER 23, 2003 THE CORRECTION IS OVER AND THE STOCK IS STARTING A NEW RALLY. IT IS AGAIN TIME FOR BULLS. YOU MAY MAKE HEFTY PROFITS IF YOU BUY THIS STOCK NOW AND HOLD IT UNTIL THE NEXT SELL SIGNAL. LONG TERM TREND IS NOW BULLISH.
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Keep up the great work.
TRSTURGUT-18
I was doing a little Allstocks.com-poster/thread DD yesterday and ran up along this thread from a couple of months ago I found interesting. Kind of like a history lesson, shows how all of this started and how the foundation was laid for these 30 page power threads we have going today. http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/001674.html
Happy Holidays to all!!!!
PS- In response to Betn's posts about PGHI addicts- I do believe we can officially call Mach a PGHI addict, if not THE And yep, I think you can throw me into that group too, I have been checking the board all day long here at work.
Cheers,
Wooter
PPS- does anyone else feel they are in a Top Gun movie- Mav going Mach 2 with his hair on fire. All we need is a "Goose"
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/tradeact_mv.asp?SearchBy=issue&SortBy=volume&Issue=PG HI&Month=11-1-2003 [/b][/QUOTE]
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This is not hype...it's shareholders actually pleased and excited with the
thought of where this stock can go.It has a huge upside.You have to decide where to put your money.If you have read this complete thread then it speaks volumes about the belief and loyalty we all have for PGHI.
The ride is just beginning and it's going to be a lot of fun , so in my opinion it is not to late to get in.Good Luck wahtever you decide to do.
TRSTURGUT-18
No one can predict for 100% sure what a stock will do. This stock has a very good chance of taking off, but what if bad news did come out and it fell to a penny...is that a chance you are willing to take with your college money.
Don't risk what you cannot afford to lose.
Just my opinion
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
Is it too late to get in? I am not one to usually be heavily influenced by such hype but this stock sounds really good. I was thinking about putting $2000 to $5000 of my college savings in this stock. Too risky??? what do you guys think.. go or no..?
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Originally posted by tommy:
Mach, you're doing an awesome on keeping the flame alive, PGHI should pay you!Merry Christmas to All!
I was waiting for somebody to answer your question. I honestly do not understand it. Nothing will change for us. You will simply see a symbol change within your portfolio. Hope that helps. mach
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Originally posted by Groovin:
After new symbal change is complete for PGHI
,how are stocks exchanged to new issue? help for a newbie. Gunna be a Long fun ride!
Merry Christmas all!
Im glad to hear that you will be accumulating tommorrow. The tech indicators are now bullish. That means that the trend will continue up... even if there are down days in between. Next week we should see substantial gains... and I do believe we will establish a strong base @ .04... A break-out beyond .05 is very realistic.
With your ongoing investments... one day you could become a majority shareholder in GameZNflix. Won't that be exciting as our company begins to achieve the success realized by Netflix in less than two business years. Why don't we ask Netflix shareholders who now own a stock trading above $50. Glad to be on the ground floor here.
Good luck in your meeting with your Stockbroker. Hope we do not lose you to another company. Stockbroker's tend to be "great salespeople" and often have a significant influence on peoples investment decisions.
*** Future's so Bright ***
Hope you had a Merry Christmas!
mach
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Originally posted by Magoo:
MachI see you have been busy this morning,
Merry Christmas
I have had my son and grandkids over this morning and they have gone for the rest of their visiting. I will go over to their home for Christmas dinner tonight. Hope you do have family around you as this is the time of year which draw all who are close to us together.
Good posts this morning. It really helps to make all of us to understand possibilities which a bussiness like this will most likely to grow into over the next couple of years.
I am going to be buying heavy for the next couple of weeks starting tomorrow. I am trying to bring up the volume at a steady pace. I know that there will be advances and retractions but I am in this for the long run so am only interested in the overall upward pattern.
I am going into my Broker on Monday (Smith Barney) and he is going to be giving me some advise as to how to handle to MM's games.
I also have had several of other friends getting interested in PGHI which are high rollers. They will be purchaseing on their own.
Once we get into the higher buying numbers I will be done purchaseing common stock. By that time this is going to be running like a freight train and we can all go for the ride as other investors will be climbing on and we can just sit back and watch it grow.
I am going to be talking with John Flemming on my visit. If he is not available during my trip then I will make an appoitment with him ASAP to talk about investing in the PPM or else wise. I do have about Three million to put in so I will be talking to about the best way to do this. A larger influx of money tends to change a companies plans in order to make the best use of it.
This influx of money will probably change his time frame. This will take place in stages as goals are met and controlls are put in place.
That is a general overlook for my plans so everyone get on board and hang on before we really start to see this venture get out of reach.
Ron B.
This is a great book. If you have any suggestions on a good "read"... Let me know. I've been looking for another "great read". mach
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
PS, I got the book "The Market Makers Edge" for christmas, I think it was Mach that suggested it on one of the threads that I read, looks very good and covers all areas- I've mostly stuck to web-based material for advancement but felt I should have something on the shelf for when the power goes out.Half day tomorrow- can't wait
Everyone's financials are different, some of us have over 2 million shares of PGHI, others have 10,000.
It all depends on what you feel comfortable risking in the market. I would say, yes put some money in- most likely it will go up- but like BetNitAll said, you could lose 75% or all of it, say if a terrorist attack happened tomorrow :-(
Only put in what you can afford to lose.
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
Is it too late to get in? I am not one to usually be heavily influenced by such hype but this stock sounds really good. I was thinking about putting $2000 to $5000 of my college savings in this stock. Too risky??? what do you guys think.. go or no..?
IMHO, PGHI has a 70% chance of closing up tomorrow, and a 85% chance of being higher 2 months from now.
PGHI has a 98.5% chance of showing more subscribers for the 4th quarter, and a 88.37% chance of showing increased revenues on their 10-QSB. 92% chance of moving to Kentucky, and if so, a 99% chance of moving to Blackjack Rd- which has a 50% chance of being commercially zoned. A car traveling at 55 mph from VeeGeeZ dist. center has a 50% chance of making it to the post office in 4.4 minutes in clear weather.
disclaimer- none of these numbers are factual, but who here will dispute them? Anyone?
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Magoo,Im glad to hear that you will be accumulating tommorrow. The tech indicators are now bullish. That means that the trend will continue up... even if there are down days in between. Next week we should see substantial gains... and I do believe we will establish a strong base @ .04... A break-out beyond .05 is very realistic.
With your ongoing investments... one day you could become a majority shareholder in GameZNflix. Won't that be exciting as our company begins to achieve the success realized by Netflix in less than two business years. Why don't we ask Netflix shareholders who now own a stock trading above $50. Glad to be on the ground floor here.
Good luck in your meeting with your Stockbroker. Hope we do not lose you to another company. Stockbroker's tend to be "great salespeople" and often have a significant influence on peoples investment decisions.
*** Future's so Bright ***
Hope you had a Merry Christmas!
mach
Not a chance to lose me to another stock via my broker.
The funds my broker deal with are limited to what I have in an account and the roll over from transactions. I have not had to add cash to that account for several years now.
I have been reading further back in the thread and have learned much from the research of the other members. I am but a student of the pennies and do admit that there are many here with a better handle on the information and availability of sources and translation of their research.
I am going to be acculumating a good amount of stock over the next couple of weeks but would like to do it in chunks rather than the lowest price I can. That is to bring our base up with the price over the course of time. I do believe that after we do get it in the .05 to .06 range we will see another whole new source of investors jump on the wagon and push it ahead much faster.
I would like to accumulate in the area of four or five million shares of common stock.
After I am able to meet with john Flemming I will be investing several million in the company in probably PPM stocks. that is where I plan on makeing the bigger money.
At some point I will be selling off the common stocks little buy little in order to help to advance the value of the overall stock value and maybe to foil some of the MM's plans.
I look foward the PGHI to get into much higher prices. At the price it sits now I would like everyone to gather what they can. Once it starts moving it will go fast and I will be forced to buy in larger chunks. I am now at about 1.7 million shares and would like to be between 4 and 5 million shares.
This will give each one of my partners about 1 million shares before we buy the PPM shares.
Thanks for all the time and work you have put in this Mach
Ron B.
...or should I say 1/2 a trading day. We are moving very close to the final name and symbol change, web site launch and beginning of our great online marketing campaign. All techs are bullish and next week will likely offer shareholders substantial gains with a possible break-out beyond .05. Don't be fooled by the MM's today as they attempt to accumulate shares. Noticing a 10 point spread early here which indicates to me that they may try to shake shares out. Look at any MM manipulation as an opportunity for you to accumulate more shares.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Another great trading day...or should I say 1/2 a trading day. We are moving very close to the final name and symbol change, web site launch and beginning of our great online marketing campaign. All techs are bullish and next week will likely offer shareholders substantial gains with a possible break-out beyond .05. Don't be fooled by the MM's today as they attempt to accumulate shares. Noticing a 10 point spread early here which indicates to me that they may try to shake shares out. Look at any MM manipulation as an opportunity for you to accumulate more shares.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
1.7 million is a fair amount to have. I have seen a few others here holding 2 million and 2.5 million. I personally intend to continue accumulation by reivesting gains realized from other investments. 4-5 million shares is a good goal to have.
I'm glad you have had the opportunity to read the thread. Some investors appear here and sometimes ask questions that we have reviewed several times. I do not mind answering them... but it does certainly make it much easier when they in fact read through all the excellent DD here.
Another great trading day ahead!
mach
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Not a chance to lose me to another stock via my broker.The funds my broker deal with are limited to what I have in an account and the roll over from transactions. I have not had to add cash to that account for several years now.
I have been reading further back in the thread and have learned much from the research of the other members. I am but a student of the pennies and do admit that there are many here with a better handle on the information and availability of sources and translation of their research.
I am going to be acculumating a good amount of stock over the next couple of weeks but would like to do it in chunks rather than the lowest price I can. That is to bring our base up with the price over the course of time. I do believe that after we do get it in the .05 to .06 range we will see another whole new source of investors jump on the wagon and push it ahead much faster.
I would like to accumulate in the area of four or five million shares of common stock.
After I am able to meet with john Flemming I will be investing several million in the company in probably PPM stocks. that is where I plan on makeing the bigger money.
At some point I will be selling off the common stocks little buy little in order to help to advance the value of the overall stock value and maybe to foil some of the MM's plans.
I look foward the PGHI to get into much higher prices. At the price it sits now I would like everyone to gather what they can. Once it starts moving it will go fast and I will be forced to buy in larger chunks. I am now at about 1.7 million shares and would like to be between 4 and 5 million shares.
This will give each one of my partners about 1 million shares before we buy the PPM shares.
Thanks for all the time and work you have put in this Mach
Ron B.
It doesn't mean they will be successful... As I've said before. Who is selling? We are on the verge of a break-out here which could likely occur next week. The Bulls are in control here and the anticipated new site launch and name/symbol change will be here soon. I do not mind shaking out a few weak hands today as the strong hands we have here... the great the base... the greater our upward momentum will be as we move forward.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
I agree, MMs will try to accumulate more shares today.
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We don't have a Goose... but we have a Moose!
Too bad we can not add a little "Top Gun" music to our thread! mach
"PPS- does anyone else feel they are in a Top Gun movie- Mav going Mach 2 with his hair on fire. All we need is a "Goose" "
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
So what are our shareholders saying? Here's a few good quotes...Adrenalix states… “ What do breakout companies have in common? A CULT-like following. Seriously. Look at Apple Computer owners, TIVO customers and Netflix subscribers. They swear by those products and services and love them. This thread alone indicates how dedicated many shareholders are to the company.”
Woody states…. “Also just wanted to let everyone know that's counting that I took my entire third quarter bonus opened an ameritrade account and got in on 100,000 shares at .03 last week and I'm in it for the long haul with everyone else.”
ranger6922 states... "AWSOME! i stumbled across pghi by accident doing a stock screen on penny stocks last friday. i was so floored by its the potential. i wired the money to ameritrade this morning and was able to pick it up this afternoon..."
Magoo states…. “My group picked up about 900,000 shares in the first couple of hours today. We are in the for the long run so those shares will be frozen for a while. I also have had several of other friends getting interested in PGHI which are high rollers. They will be purchasing on their own.”
Tommy states…. “Wow this is too beautiful, I'm glad that I haven't sold one single share since I got in at 0.008, I'm learning the true meaning of patience!”
Duke states…. “i've only been involved with pennystocks for a few months, reading this board and a few others. i finally took the plunge buying 55000 shares of pghi between .034 and .038.”
knee-hi-boot-gurl states…. “Finally got my fill! Probally bid too much but i just couldn't take it anymore! Sold the rest of my penny stocks to make room for PGHI!”
jr states… “i've been holding/adding PGHI since october and have not sold a single share, nor do i plan on it anytime soon... i also got both my father and my brother to invest in pghi, as well as my friend's father, who used to be a stock broker himself. the potential here is mind-boggling!!!”
Wooter states. “Yeah, I am having fun. I don't do much else anymore. Work, who needs work.”
Anna states… “Holy Cow!!!! Watch this baby go!”
Jeb States… “I think that we could easily see a run up over the next few months to .25-.50, all the while seeing PGHI using the increase in stock price to get private placement investment and raise significant capital. At that point, if all things are going well, I would love to see a 1 for 5 or 1 for 10 reverse split, which would place PGHI on the map for listing on the NASDAQ and increase the exposure to the "big" players and other investors (who of course will look at the stock price only dreaming that they got in back when the stock was at these levels)...”
aawhite12 ... “this stock is really going to climb faster with this in-flux of capital coming in sooooo fast!”
Mav states… “Smart buyers are getting in now... and they keep accumulating shares for the big run.”
JustMe… One of my first purchases was in HLSH. I got a 9 bagger out of that one, and just recently sold out of that to move into PGHI. If anyone has followed HLSH, from March, you will see it has gone from a low of .08, to it's current price of 4.53. Why did I get out?......Well, simply put.....I see only a future 2-3 bagger from here in HLSH....What I see here, is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more potential. I got into this over the last two weeks for 315,000 shares, at an average price of just under.
Marcidius states… “QUITE a relief to get a position this morning before the real gains started. This is just a twinkle in our eye I have a feeling... So much DD going on, so many good points, there is a lot going for us. I am VERY HAPPY I'm in...haha”
TRSTURGUT-18 states… “This company is laying down the foundation for the future and that takes time and patience.They are not looking for instant gratification but or a quick hit.When you hire great people they will do great things and I believe that is the path of GAMES N FLIX.Remember the marketing has not even been tapped into yet...when that starts this will take off like a rocket…”
Chrissy states… “Hi all just like to say all PGHI long investors will be rewarded in my opnion.this is a great company with a great future.2004 will be our year.”
Zo states… “...I'm holding this has the stock that will make me rich too...:-)...”
V_lad states… “PGHI will change our lives for the better in 2004! My biggest challenge will be dealing with the taxes on a substantial profit.”
Cabbage states... " have a feeling I will not be selling for a few years. I was fortunate enough to get some of my family members involved with PGHI to spread the holiday cheer."
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Definitely, the bulls are in control, we need to build base at these levels for the big run soon to occur, as we progress many investors are holding strong for the big profits. As we said before, MMs trying to shake hands, that is their goal, hold strong to your shares in order to avoid to chase the price later.
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Morning Mav,It doesn't mean they will be successful... As I've said before. Who is selling? We are on the verge of a break-out here which could likely occur next week. The Bulls are in control here and the anticipated new site launch and name/symbol change will be here soon. I do not mind shaking out a few weak hands today as the strong hands we have here... the great the base... the greater our upward momentum will be as we move forward.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Hope you didn't miss this post. This is a great example of a company "spanking" the MM's. As Magoo states... time to get on the "kicking boots!" Wouldn't it be great to get a 300% return the day after our symbol change is complete! mach
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THE SYMBOL CHANGE ON THE PRICE OF OUR STOCK? WE CAN ONLY SPECULATE, BUT IT COULD BE SIGNIFICANT. WHEN ITCN CHANGED IT'S SYMBOL TO IRAC THE STOCK SURGED FROM .02 TO .09 THE NEXT DAY! MACHOriginally posted by tommy:
Also take into consideration that when a company files for a ticker symbol change, there must be NO SHORTS on the stock previous to the change. This means that MM's MUST COVER their shorts before the change or they will be in big trouble with the SEC!TOMMY LATER CLARIFIED IT IS THE ACTUAL SYMBOL CHANGE THAT HE WAS REFERRING TO.
*******
IMHO we have seen several instances of MM manipulation with PGHI. I love it when we have the upper-hand. Will a similar scenario as the attached occur upon our name change completion and symbol change on the bb. I’ll be around to find out! It’s coming soon! Very soon! mach
*******
"But after the company
discovered it was being victimized by naked shorting by market
makers, it changed its trading symbol to IRAC, effective July 5,
2002, which thwarted the efforts of the market makers and resulted in
a jump from $0.02 as of the next trading day after the symbol change
to $0.09 as of October 14, 2002."*******
In addition, as a result of substantial evidence that the BBAN
shareholders have been victimized by certain market makers using a
technique known as "naked shorting", BBAN's securities counsel is
investigating the trading patterns of the stock since the plan
confirmation date of July 30, 2002. "Naked shorting" is the illegal
practice of short selling shares that haven't been borrowed, or that
don't exist. Based upon the current results of this investigation as
well as the history of BBAN's common stock, the company is beginning
the process of a symbol change which would require all shareholders
to exchange their BBAN common stock for stock with the new trading
symbol.The company is closely monitoring the activity surrounding two other
publicly traded companies which have been victimized by naked
shorting, Intrac, Inc. and Jag Media Holdings. Intrac, Inc. was once
traded on the OTCBB under the symbol ITCN. But after the company
discovered it was being victimized by naked shorting by market
makers, it changed its trading symbol to IRAC, effective July 5,
2002, which thwarted the efforts of the market makers and resulted in
a jump from $0.02 as of the next trading day after the symbol change
to $0.09 as of October 14, 2002. Similarly, Jag Media Holdings was
also victimized by naked shorting. Convinced that naked shorts were
behind the problem, Jag recapitalized its stock by retiring the old
JagNotes.com shares and replacing them with new Class A and B shares
in Jag Media Holdings. In addition to the recapitalization, Jag also
filed a lawsuit against over one hundred brokerage institutions.
Keith McAllister, co-Chairman of the Board of BBAN, stated, "we are
not going to sit here and be victimized by individuals or
institutions and their agendas. Mr. Williams, myself and our counsel,
Steve Oshins and Ron Stauber, are working aggressively to protect the
shareholders and are prepared to fight for their value."[This message has been edited by machtabow2 (edited December 25, 2003).]
If people would have listened to this board (especially mach's prediction) they could have have turned $5000 into $7000 in less then a week.
I myself tried to buy another 50,000 shares at .028 but I had to wait 5 days for ameritrade to release my money....I had to wait till .036.....I am thinking I won't be regrettig that in the near future..
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
What a great Christmas....Snow is covering the ground......this week has been outstanding...I am showing the last price at .04 You gotta love that....especially since we were able to buy around .028 not too long agoIf people would have listened to this board (especially mach's prediction) they could have have turned $5000 into $7000 in less then a week.
I myself tried to buy another 50,000 shares at .028 but I had to wait 5 days for ameritrade to release my money....I had to wait till .036.....I am thinking I won't be regrettig that in the near future..
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
I've never seen such a ridiculous attempt to accumulate shares by the MM's here. A 10 point spread on a penny stock! That's ridiculous... Shows you how bad they want shares! Mach
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Mav,Hope you didn't miss this post. This is a great example of a company "spanking" the MM's. As Magoo states... time to get on the "kicking boots!" Wouldn't it be great to get a 300% return the day after our symbol change is complete! mach
I think since December 24th was 1/2 day... i think today we will close at .045... My best guess... We had a strong bump into the open Wednesday... and consolidation back down to .039... My thoughts would be that we would beging a slow trend up and close to the high. Bump... consolidate... Cup... Which gives us a great base for our big move... imho What do you think? mach
Good luck to everyone who gets in today and i will do my best to keep the rockets burning
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Just bought another block of shares to get the ball rolling. I am going to hold off and let it ride and hopefully everyone who wants in today can get filled. I will buy more in two hours and try to keep the price and volume up.Good luck to everyone who gets in today and i will do my best to keep the rockets burning
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Mav....I think since December 24th was 1/2 day... i think today we will close at .045... My best guess... We had a strong bump into the open Wednesday... and consolidation back down to .039... My thoughts would be that we would beging a slow trend up and close to the high. Bump... consolidate... Cup... Which gives us a great base for our big move... imho What do you think? mach
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Great teamwork Magoo. My thought is that it would be nice for all of us to help in that final push over .05... Once it breaks that level... It will really move fast. "Chip-away". Magoo... you are the man! mach
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
That buy at 9:40 was mine....doing my part too....however small it may be.
***Knowledge is power***
mach
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quote:
Originally posted by j160e:
Good morning all. I would be trying to do my part by buying another block today but my express mail (guarenteed next day) delivery of a check sent to Ameritrade on Monday took 3 days to get there according to the tracking info. Of course nobody was there to accept it yesterday so another attempt will be made today. Good grief! Looks like I won't be able to buy until Monday at best. Oh well, I just returned from getting my $13.65 back from the post office.
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
5 MM @ .045-
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
What a great day... so far... I am confident stating that we are developing a strong base in the .04's... Our big push over .05 is coming soon! Notice a pattern... the past three days... MM tried to manipulate price down at the close... only to find the buyers pushing it back up each day...***Knowledge is power***
mach[This message has been edited by machtabow2 (edited December 26, 2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by j160e:
Good morning all. I would be trying to do my part by buying another block today but my express mail (guarenteed next day) delivery of a check sent to Ameritrade on Monday took 3 days to get there according to the tracking info. Of course nobody was there to accept it yesterday so another attempt will be made today. Good grief! Looks like I won't be able to buy until Monday at best. Oh well, I just returned from getting my $13.65 back from the post office.
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I am amazed how how quick those asks are being eaten away. I was looking at the low .04's and it appeared to be a lot of resistance....now as you all say "poof" .045 is disapearing too....
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
ACH Transfers from Checking or Savings accounts are the way to go- no mail, no hassle
quote:
Originally posted by j160e:
Another lesson learned...the hard way. Thanks.
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Some more information for you. Make sure you do a wire transfer.....electronic transfers have a 5 day hold on non-marginable securities (this includes OTC stocks). I had to wait five days for my money to clear. Wire transfers have no holds or waits on them
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
As I've said... it's great when the "Bulls are in Control." mach
mach
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
Mach .... this is good, all is great, again, consolidation today, check your gear for next week !!!.
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Some more information for you. Make sure you do a wire transfer.....electronic transfers have a 5 day hold on non-marginable securities (this includes OTC stocks). I had to wait five days for my money to clear. Wire transfers have no holds or waits on them
E-trade electronic fund transfer is available for use immediately.
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Some more information for you. Make sure you do a wire transfer.....electronic transfers have a 5 day hold on non-marginable securities (this includes OTC stocks). I had to wait five days for my money to clear. Wire transfers have no holds or waits on them
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Mav... Level II looks outstanding. If we get that close @ .045/.046... We could likely begin a big move Monday. Keep in mind that the company has traditionaly made news releases on Tuesday. Wouldn't it be great to get a good PR Tuesday Morning! It's very possible. Maybe a website update... that would be perfect... either way... it is truly looking good! I keep on telling people that after .05 there is no upside selling pressure. None... zero... zilch... We will learn what that means very soon... The move will be very fast!mach
quote:
Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco:
I have a question... well I have many, but for now this one comes to mind. This is the second day we have seen a 10% or so run up in the initial hours and then a slow retraction, can someone explain the causes for this. I assume it is the result of day traders, but as I have been told assumtion is rather bad I will just ask those more aware than I
quote:
Originally posted by Corbin:
I have heard that there's a number that you can call to contact this company directly to buy stock at half the price. Does anyone know if this is true?
quote:
Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco:
I have a question... well I have many, but for now this one comes to mind. This is the second day we have seen a 10% or so run up in the initial hours and then a slow retraction, can someone explain the causes for this. I assume it is the result of day traders, but as I have been told assumtion is rather bad I will just ask those more aware than I
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Its a typical trading pattern for many stocks, and PGHI. Big buys come in the morning, the MM's push it down and squeeze profit after the runs
CANDLESTICK CHARTING PATTERNS
ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN OCCURING
BREAKOUT IMMINENT
(Link Provided)
Let's talk about the ASCENDING TRIANGLE... This pattern is occuring here and will eventually lead to our BREAKOUT...
On the ascending triangle, the horizontal line represents overhead supply that prevents the security from moving past a certain level. It is as if a large sell order has been placed at this level and it is taking a number of weeks or months to execute, thus preventing the price from rising further. Even though the price cannot rise past this level, the reaction lows continue to rise. It is these higher lows that indicate increased buying pressure and give the ascending triangle its bullish bias. http://stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis/triangle-Ascending.html
.05 has been resistance on two previous occassions. Reaction lows continue to rise. When we have our final base established at .04 and our new name change and web site are released.... OUR ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN will lead to a BREAKOUT.
Also keep in mind.... as I've stated before. Because we have no previous buyers above .05... theres is ZERO upside resistance which means the BREAKOUT will be significantly stronger than most anticipate.
.10 and beyond will be here soon.
*** Future's so Bright ***
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
ASCENDING TRIANGLE AT PGHI ....
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Cabbage. I was thinking that we are a "real-time" stock trading classroom. Always learning. So many bright people here!*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
GL
quote:
Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco:
I have a question... well I have many, but for now this one comes to mind. This is the second day we have seen a 10% or so run up in the initial hours and then a slow retraction, can someone explain the causes for this. I assume it is the result of day traders, but as I have been told assumtion is rather bad I will just ask those more aware than I
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO USE THE ATTACHED SUMMARY TO INTRODUCE INVESTORS AROUND THE WORLD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME PGHI/GAMEZNFLIX SHAREHOLDERS. FEEL FREE TO ELABORATE. MACHPGHI: POINT GROUP HOLDINGS INC.
EXTRAORDIANRY OPPORTUNITY FOR SUBSTANTIAL GAINS FROM CURRENT LEVELS.
POINT GROUP HOLDINGS INC. TO CHANGE CORPORATE NAME TO GAMEZNFLIX INC.
PRIOR TO SYMBOL CHANGE ALL MARKET MAKERS MUST COVER ALL SHORT POSITIONS.
GAMEZNFLIX INC. SUBSIDIARY VEEGEEZ.COM IS THE ONLY PUBLICLY TRADED ONLINE VIDEO GAME RENTAL COMPANY
NEW AND ADVANCED VEEGEEZ.COM WEB SITE TO BE LAUNCHED WITHIN TWO WEEKS
VIDEO GAMING IS THE WORLD’S FASTEST GROWING FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT. EXPERTS BELIEVE THAT IT’S ON TRACK TO RIVAL THE MOVIE MUSIC OR TELEVISION INDUSTRIES, PERHAPS BY THE END OF THE DECADE.
AS INDICATED BY THE CORPORATE NAME CHANGE GAMEZNFLIX INC. WILL SOON EXPAND IT’S REACH INTO THE DVD RENTAL WORLD.
NETFLIX PULLED OFF A DOT-COM IPO AND REACHED PROFITABILITY FASTER THAN ANYONE PREDICTED. SHARES LEAPED FROM $4 TO $60 IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS.
VEEGEEZ HAS CONTRACTED WITH VENTURE DIRECT WORLDWIDE OF NEW YORK TO HANDLE IT’S ONLINE MARKETING CAMPAIGN. VENTURE DIRECT CLIENT’S INCLUDE MICROSOFT, ADOBE, CITIGROUP, AT&T, INTEL, XEROX, FORTUNE MAGAZINE AND MANY OTHER SUCCESSFUL COMPANIES.
TECH ANALYSIS INDICATING LIKELY BREAKOUT FROM CURRENT TRADING LEVELS WILL OCCUR SOON. MACD BULLISH CROSSOVER. BOLLINGER BANDS TIGHT. ON BALANCE VOLUME INCREASING.
CANDLESTICK ANALYSIS INDICATING ASCENDING TRIANGLE DEVELOPMENT. HIGHER LOWS THAT INDICATE INCREASED BUYING PRESSURE.
AMERICAN BULLS RECOMMENDATION: DECEMBER 23, 2003 THE CORRECTION IS OVER AND THE STOCK IS STARTING A NEW RALLY. IT IS AGAIN TIME FOR BULLS. YOU MAY MAKE HEFTY PROFITS IF YOU BUY THIS STOCK NOW AND HOLD IT UNTIL THE NEXT SELL SIGNAL. LONG TERM TREND IS NOW BULLISH.
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I'd have to say, the best tid-bit I picked up last week was the post by tommy, simply amazing that nobody else mentioned it, and whats more amazing is he came from RB! The hell hole of message boards!
Composite Indicator
Trend Spotter (TM) Hold
Short Term Indicators
7 Day Average Directional Indicator Buy
10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Buy
20 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
20 Day Bollinger Bands Hold
Short Term Indicators Average: 80% - Buy
20-Day Average Volume - 8049065
Medium Term Indicators
40 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
50 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
50 Day Parabolic Time/Price Sell
Medium Term Indicators Average: 50% - Buy
50-Day Average Volume - 13375162
Long Term Indicators
60 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
100 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
Long Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
100-Day Average Volume - 7903719
Overall Average: 72% - Buy
quote:
Originally posted by Pappy74:
mach, can you repost that level 2 screen you did a few weeks ago. Please, please.
This was above the list: The following are just a few of the hundreds of b-to-b and consumer advertisers, direct marketers, list owners and publishers actively working with VentureDirect Worldwide. http://www.venturedirect.com/html/vdw_clients.htm
VEEGEEZ HAS CONTRACTED WITH VENTURE DIRECT WORLDWIDE OF NEW YORK TO HANDLE IT’S ONLINE MARKETING CAMPAIGN. VENTURE DIRECT CLIENT’S INCLUDE MICROSOFT, ADOBE, CITIGROUP, AT&T, INTEL, XEROX, FORTUNE MAGAZINE AND MANY OTHER SUCCESSFUL COMPANIES
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quote:
Originally posted by Pappy74:
mach, can you repost that level 2 screen you did a few weeks ago. Please, please.
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Pappy: Real time Level II... We are .042X.043... Only one MM at .043 then one at .045 then 3 at .046. Considerble support below. I think we will likely close at .045 or higher. imho mach
quote:
Originally posted by Pappy74:
mach, can you repost that level 2 screen you did a few weeks ago. Please, please.
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Hey Mach, it might be time to consider starting a new thread, I know it sucks to lose all this good DD, but this is getting huge!
If we are getting this type of action with a half a day what will happen on Monday?
Thanks for the advice called E-Trade and they cleared up the L2 questions.Now things are a lot clearer.Nice to have the day off and watch the action.Over 3 million in volume today.Great help on this board thanks to all.
TRSTURGUT-18
I am going to put in a buy order for 3 million shares and do not want to keep any away from you. This will help the secure the shares for the long term and take away from the weak hands.
I will place that order with one hour left in the tradeing session. If it fills or even partly fills we should get a bit of a boost.
PS my last posting I had hit the wrong key and started a new thread. Sorry I did not intend to do that.
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Everyone who want's to buy in today this is a good time to do so.I am going to put in a buy order for 3 million shares and do not want to keep any away from you. This will help the secure the shares for the long term and take away from the weak hands.
I will place that order with one hour left in the tradeing session. If it fills or even partly fills we should get a bit of a boost.
PS my last posting I had hit the wrong key and started a new thread. Sorry I did not intend to do that.
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Everyone who want's to buy in today this is a good time to do so.I am going to put in a buy order for 3 million shares and do not want to keep any away from you. This will help the secure the shares for the long term and take away from the weak hands.
I will place that order with one hour left in the tradeing session. If it fills or even partly fills we should get a bit of a boost.
PS my last posting I had hit the wrong key and started a new thread. Sorry I did not intend to do that.
GLTA
quote:
Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH,If we are getting this type of action with a half a day what will happen on Monday?
Thanks for the advice called E-Trade and they cleared up the L2 questions.Now things are a lot clearer.Nice to have the day off and watch the action.Over 3 million in volume today.Great help on this board thanks to all.TRSTURGUT-18
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
It looks like the MM's are selling off now- they probably see an M type top forming with yesterday and today- this is your chance to burn them Magoo
I am also going to buy some of the private placement to give PGHI some much needed capital to work with...
JB
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Get Schwab for me- they claim that they "don't do pennies", when nothing is further from the truth. I hate those guys
Cabbage I know for a fact the schwab is in on PGHI. My broker has told me this.
The need to sell or they are in trouble.
I will be buying in another half hour in order for others to get their buys filled.
At that time I hope to put some hurt on them
Who knows... since there is no upside resistance.
Hang on folks
GL
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Get Schwab for me- they claim that they "don't do pennies", when nothing is further from the truth. I hate those guys
Good luck all.
quote:
Originally posted by raven76:
Cabbage,
I think the current problem is WIEN..This one is trying to sell..I wish I knew the amount..
IMO, SCHB is not a problem..GL
GL
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
SCHB is the third biggest mover, but I don't see them as a problem per se, I just hate em.
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[This message has been edited by raven76 (edited December 26, 2003).]
For November:
SCHB
SCHWAB CAPITAL MARKETS L.P. 7,308,253 7
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
SCHB is the third biggest mover, but I don't see them as a problem per se, I just hate em.
quote:
Originally posted by JEB7006:
I too will try to do my part in bringing this stock up to levels that it should be at (although I do not have the kind of $$$ to invest like Magoo)...I am going to try to pick up another 250K shares over the next few days in blocks of 50K so I can bring my total holdings into the 1 mil club...I am also going to buy some of the private placement to give PGHI some much needed capital to work with...
JB
That is a good chunk. With the amount of investors we have here puts us in control over the MM's. If we have strong hands we can control the priceing to the next level then others will join in and see the stock really take off.
Once I do get to a certin level I am going to stop investing in common stock and put in a large amount of cash in the direct PPM shares or invest in a way directly into the bussiness in order to help the company with their bottom line.
The common stock my group is holding will be sold back in small quanities after the prices at the level the big rollers buy. This will help the price advanceing and where I will be makeing my real money from the PPM stocks about two years down the road.
Stay strong everyone
Looking at otcbb, who is JRZY, and how come we never see him on L2?
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quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
Stay strong, once we reached 0.05 this will be only the start of it. This is a great opportunity to buy for those who are hesitating to do so, this is the moment to collect shares at these levels.[This message has been edited by Mav (edited December 26, 2003).]
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by j160e:
I've been checking my account every 20 minutes...my money was finally received and posted!!!!! I just bought another 25,000 block like I wanted to (165,000 total for me). Ahh, time to take a deep breath. And I even got the post office to return my $13.65 for not delivering on time. Alright Magoo take aim and fire!j160e
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Wow, talk about perfect timing
Just put in a buy order for 1 million shares
If that fills will put in another order a bit higher.
For those who bought a bit higher today we will be right behind you and pass your mark soon.
Good day today guys
A third party wants to sell a considerable amount of shares(according todays volume)using WIEN..Maybe 1-2 mill..
MM's are not stupid .. if they see somebody eagerly want to sell,
they will push him to sell as low as possible, or in other words they will try to get the shares as low as possible..Since we( traders or investors)couldn't create a strong buying pressure to take the shares of WIEN( or third party), the price is falling..
This is temporarily, I think Wien will be done with selling today, if not Monday..
Then we'll be @ higher .04's very fast..
GL
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quote:
Originally posted by raven76:
Let me share what I think about current situation..A third party wants to sell a considerable amount of shares(according todays volume)using WIEN..Maybe 1-2 mill..
MM's are not stupid .. if they see somebody eagerly want to sell,
they will push him to sell as low as possible, or in other words they will try to get the shares as low as possible..Since we( traders or investors)couldn't create a strong buying pressure to take the shares of WIEN( or third party), the price is falling..This is temporarily, I think Wien will be done with selling today, if not Monday..
Then we'll be @ higher .04's very fast..GL
quote:
Originally posted by qqqtrader:
Magoo-
What was your bid? It seems the price may have blown right past your order.
.039 bit I am chaseing it up in order to git it some support
Make sure you didn't actually put a sell order in. I make that mistake sometimes. mach
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
if everyone is claiming to buy such big quantities like 1 million shares and such, why isnt it showing in the volume. All i see is 3 big fat sales of over 500k. Is there a reason people are waiting or are you guys trying to scatter your buys.
I am going to canel my order an regroup for Monday. This is a good buying range for everyone who wants in. I will put put the pressure on the MMs on monday.
I have purchased a good amount of shares today and would like to save some funds to give use a good step up the ladder for next week.
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Were they sells or buys?
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
they were all sales
I am going to canel my order an regroup for Monday. This is a good buying range for everyone who wants in. I will put put the pressure on the MMs on monday.
I have purchased a good amount of shares today and would like to save some funds to give use a good step up the ladder for next week.
[/B][/QUOTE]
quote:
Originally posted by raven76:
LOL!!
GLI am going to canel my order an regroup for Monday. This is a good buying range for everyone who wants in. I will put put the pressure on the MMs on monday.
I have purchased a good amount of shares today and would like to save some funds to give use a good step up the ladder for next week.
[/B][/QUOTE]
quote:
Originally posted by raven76:
LOL!!
GLI am going to canel my order an regroup for Monday. This is a good buying range for everyone who wants in. I will put put the pressure on the MMs on monday.
I have purchased a good amount of shares today and would like to save some funds to give use a good step up the ladder for next week.
[/B][/QUOTE]
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
Everyone here, we are doing just fine, next week will be even better, patience .... it will come soon.
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
[UOTE]Originally posted by cabbage22:
[b]If you dont buy it Magoo I will
I am going to canel my order an regroup for Monday. This is a good buying range for everyone who wants in. I will put put the pressure on the MMs on monday.
I have purchased a good amount of shares today and would like to save some funds to give use a good step up the ladder for next week.
[/B][/QUOTE]
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Agreed! It's funny how we see a little red for the first time in 7 trading days... just a little and we have some subtle negative post! Nothing has changed...*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
On another note, remember that PGHI pay people and services with shares so it's normal that at some point those people will want to sell because it's their salary!
We're doing great, no worries here, still long and strong!
GLTA
Base Building is what we're doing
The real gains will come, and I just picked up more :-)
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
im not tryin to be negative.. i just wanted to know why there was more selling then buying today... and why that selling was in such great volume
GL
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
It's normal that some selling is going through, that's why it's called trading, you can't just have buys all the time!On another note, remember that PGHI pay people and services with shares so it's normal that at some point those people will want to sell because it's their salary!
We're doing great, no worries here, still long and strong!
GLTA
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quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Magoo. Looks like they filled part of your order before you cancelled. Keep in mind that Level II quotes are delayed people. MM do not report that accurately. I've learned that from experience! mach
That's OK
I will take what the give me.
Did secure more earlier on at .041 so any other fills are welcome.
This will give allow me more buying power on Monday and the week to come. I do have my limits as to how much chash I can put in this, so I do not want to burn it all at once. I would like to secure another 2 million shares to add to my overall take. However I would like to stair step it up so that my overall average will increase in the profit. I would like to buy in chunks so that the base will increase.
Thanks
Ron B.
It is on these occasions that you can see who's new to the trading world and who's not.GLTA and see you next week!
mach
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Just a side note, I find it funny how some people expect a stock to go up non-stop all the time without retracing or consolidating!GLTA and see you next week!
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
has there ever been another stock with a thread this long on this board. if so i am curious to results of last time. Ive never seen so much interest in such a stock... on another note .. is it the game rental website that everyone likes so much because if it is .. what makes you guys think that they can compete with people like blockbuster who offer $20 dollar a month unlimited rentals...
i do see alot of potential in this stock and have gotten in myself at 3 different points. i just wanted to know what you guys thought about that. thax
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Magoo. Looks like they filled part of your order before you cancelled. Keep in mind that Level II quotes are delayed people. MM do not report that accurately. I've learned that from experience! mach
Mach
They did fill a part order before close.
It might have helped the close step up to .04
Good day today everyone
Kmart was once one of the leading Retail companies in the world... Walmart didn't decide to compete with them. They decided to capture the market and create a niche that the "big companies" at the time missed. The market is in constant evolution...
This is a development stage company priced at .04. Blockbuster is currently trading at $17. My investment here is for what I believe to be the potential for dramatic growth and added shareholder value.
Stockguy... hope you have the opportunity to read the thread... Many of the questions you are asking have been covered in detail... Good luck to you.
Also feel free to do DD and add your finds to the thread. It's always greatly appreciated. Will help out substantially.
Thanks again. mach
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
has there ever been another stock with a thread this long on this board. if so i am curious to results of last time. Ive never seen so much interest in such a stock... on another note .. is it the game rental website that everyone likes so much because if it is .. what makes you guys think that they can compete with people like blockbuster who offer $20 dollar a month unlimited rentals...
i do see alot of potential in this stock and have gotten in myself at 3 different points. i just wanted to know what you guys thought about that. thax
Of course it's not as bad as the RB board that's why I prefer posting here!
GLTA
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
I'm not and will not point fingers at anyone but we have to be aware that this board is not basher-proof and as we go along with the development of this company and stock, we will see many subtle bashers appear here and there!Of course it's not as bad as the RB board that's why I prefer posting here!
GLTA
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Gotcha! This makes perfect sense....*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
There will alway be people who bring up points which make us think maybe they are negitive. As long as they are questioning without knowing all the facts then they are just asking and there should be no offence taken.
I believe that eveyone needs to do their own research and feel that you are not being pulled into a situation by what others have said.
It is the responsibility of the person pushing the buy key and take the responsibility for their own decisions.
I personally do not give advise because I do not want people to invest because of what I have said about the stock. I am one of the larger holders in this stock and will be buying more which is my decision.
My posts are just statements of what I am doing and not intended to try to sway anyone to buy or sell. Just stateing what my moves are so that it might give some insight of what the market might do accordingly.
Do not take this as me being uncomfortable with any comments but I do not want anyone to invest unless they have done their own research and feel comfortable with their decisions.
Good Luck to all
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
has there ever been another stock with a thread this long on this board. if so i am curious to results of last time. Ive never seen so much interest in such a stock... on another note .. is it the game rental website that everyone likes so much because if it is .. what makes you guys think that they can compete with people like blockbuster who offer $20 dollar a month unlimited rentals...
i do see alot of potential in this stock and have gotten in myself at 3 different points. i just wanted to know what you guys thought about that. thax
Great to have someone like you on board Magoo, it proves that this stock although still a pennystock, is attracting and will attract many more serious investors and not just day traders!
GLTA
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
There will alway be people who bring up points which make us think maybe they are negitive. As long as they are questioning without knowing all the facts then they are just asking and there should be no offence taken.I believe that eveyone needs to do their own research and feel that you are not being pulled into a situation by what others have said.
It is the responsibility of the person pushing the buy key and take the responsibility for their own decisions.
I personally do not give advise because I do not want people to invest because of what I have said about the stock. I am one of the larger holders in this stock and will be buying more which is my decision.
My posts are just statements of what I am doing and not intended to try to sway anyone to buy or sell. Just stateing what my moves are so that it might give some insight of what the market might do accordingly.
Do not take this as me being uncomfortable with any comments but I do not want anyone to invest unless they have done their own research and feel comfortable with their decisions.
Good Luck to all
You make a good point.The more growth you have the more people will try to tear you down.I guess that is just in some peoples makeup.I tend to believe it is the woulda,coulda,shoulda,
that never did anything about it type of people.They are only happy if they can make everybody as miserable as they are.Well we all know that at some time they will show up
but if we are clever enough to disregard their remarks they will go away.This is a strong force of shareholders and we need to be that way on bad days and good days.Patience and controlling emotions will keep this going strong.7 million on a slow day...looks like the big ones are right around the corner.
POSTED BY TOMMY
I'm not and will not point fingers at anyone but we have to be aware that this board is not basher-proof and as we go along with the development of this company and stock, we will see many subtle bashers appear here and there!
Of course it's not as bad as the RB board that's why I prefer posting here!
GLTA
TRSTURGUT-18
Magoo- good move holding out until next week when we will have the whole market on PGHI represented
I managed to pick some more shares near the close, and look foward to next week-
The CEO will be coming off his vacation soon, and we should be expecting a PR about the new site.
From what I've heard from emails from the company, the site is designed and finished, just needs a few operational details concluded before the beta test and final roll out.
It will be a good January
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
There will alway be people who bring up points which make us think maybe they are negitive. As long as they are questioning without knowing all the facts then they are just asking and there should be no offence taken.I believe that eveyone needs to do their own research and feel that you are not being pulled into a situation by what others have said.
It is the responsibility of the person pushing the buy key and take the responsibility for their own decisions.
I personally do not give advise because I do not want people to invest because of what I have said about the stock. I am one of the larger holders in this stock and will be buying more which is my decision.
My posts are just statements of what I am doing and not intended to try to sway anyone to buy or sell. Just stateing what my moves are so that it might give some insight of what the market might do accordingly.
Do not take this as me being uncomfortable with any comments but I do not want anyone to invest unless they have done their own research and feel comfortable with their decisions.
Good Luck to all
Lets all remember that:
If I remember on the 24th it went up around 12% then pretty much closed flat.
Today its up 12% and closes flat.
Level II looks good
Friday is a day slow day that and a there are people that do not whold for the weekend. This is all on NO news
IF/WHEN we get good news we will be sitting pretty....I don't know how high but surely we will break .05 on the news of the new name change and website. If we can't break .05 on that news then I will be worried.....until then this newbie is more then happy.....
I think some are just worried becasue it appears a lot here have a substantial amount of money invested.....we all can relax and make a nice mint in the next couple of weeks...then we can worry from there about the long term health of the company...but I don't think any one haveing shares at these levels should worry.
Also, this has been said before:
The reward outways the risk in this stock....more likely to double then collapse to a penny.
Can you please give some reasons behind your decision, why you are willing to take this risk with this huge amount of money and what makes this company unique to deserve to be your first penny play ever?
I am sure this will help the newbies and potential investors who are thinking about to buy some shares...
Thanks in advance..
GL
quote:
Originally posted by j160e:
Magoo, I find it fascinating the buying potential you can exercise compared to myself. My nerves are not nearly as steady as yours but with the shares I have I am very long and strong. Looking forward to next week. Thanks for all your updates.j160e
"The reward outways the risk in this stock....more likely to double then collapse to a penny."
This should be read anytime doubts come to mind of VG/PGHI's future. Thank you. - Marty
This is a very good question. An answer to this, could not only boost new investors confidence but could also galvanize long term stocker holders positons. -
quote:
Originally posted by j160e:
Magoo, I find it fascinating the buying potential you can exercise compared to myself. My nerves are not nearly as steady as yours but with the shares I have I am very long and strong. Looking forward to next week. Thanks for all your updates.j160e
j160e
There really is not much difference between you and I.
I have the advantage of haveing several people investing with me and the amount we are putting in dose not add up to what we are not comfortable with. We are ahead of the game by a good amount with what we have invested so far so we are able to watch the ups and downs and not have to worry about it so much.
There will be more jumping in after the news is out and we will all be able to realize the profits.
I do have other plans with other investors to push the value ahead after it takes off to the next level.
Hold strong
Ron B.
That really wasn't an answer. When you start broadcasting how much you are investing, and in your parties case it is substantial, people look forward to some sort on DD to coincided with the investment numbers.
Lets put it this way when you spoke to your investment pool how did you convey to them the potential of PGHI?
When, I personally see people posting how much they are investing, it just intrigues me to see how they came to that financial decision. And with that information, I can base my future investments.
For the record I have taken a long postion with PGHI.
Thank you. -Marty
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Response to Magoo:That really wasn't an answer. When you start broadcasting how much you are investing, and in your parties case it is substantial, people look forward to some sort on DD to coincided with the investment numbers.
Lets put it this way when you spoke to your investment pool how did you convey to them the potential of PGHI?
When, I personally see people posting how much they are investing, it just intrigues me to see how they came to that financial decision. And with that information, I can base my future investments.
For the record I have taken a long postion with PGHI.
Thank you. -Marty
[This message has been edited by machtabow2 (edited December 26, 2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by raven76:
Magoo,
as I remember correctly you and your friends are planning to invest around $200K in PGHI as a starting point..(about 5 mill. shares-I am not sure about the amount)
And I remember you saying that you never invested in Pennies before...Can you please give some reasons behind your decision, why you are willing to take this risk with this huge amount of money and what makes this company unique to deserve to be your first penny play ever?
I am sure this will help the newbies and potential investors who are thinking about to buy some shares...
Thanks in advance..
GL
Raven
You are right about the amount I would like to invest. There are five others in my group. With six of us we do have more buying power that one. We have all pitched in a good amount but not more than we feel comfortable with.
We intend to stair step the buys up as the volume can support the buys.
The reason for this is that I am trying to help support the stock price and help to get it to the .05 to .06 range. My investments are to help the base along and not to buy nessarly buying at the lowest cost.
I will be meeting with John Flemming and seeing how to invest in the company either by the PPM stocks or in the manner which will most benifit overall bottom line for the company. That amount will be determined according to his marketing plan amoung other factors.
Investing in the common stocks for us will hopefully help to bring up the average stock prices and will draw the attention of the brokarage companies which will then promote it to their client base.
True I am not use to the penny stocks.
I am interested in helping this stock to advance to out of the pennies and into larger markets. By then I will be well invested in the PPM stocks.
I am a diffrent type of investor as Penny stock investors go. I do not have controll on what the MM's do but can take advantage of them from time to time to help the overall cause. I will be selling off the common stock gradually after we get to a point that it will make sence to help fuel the fire and remove my initial investment.
This stock is very attractive to me because of the top end possibilities. It is also priced at this point within the range which I can have some effect on the outcome.
You questions are very good as I do not want anyone to invest because of what I am doing. Please do your research and only invest what is comfortable for your situation.
Hope this helps
Ron B.
I do not type so I need to use two fingers on the keyboard. Takes me time to get through my post and also the reason for miss spellings
I'm not saying that Magoo is a fraud but I do agree with m_h13021 that we always need to be careful on any message board. Someone saying that he wants to put $200K in the common stock and $3M in the PPM of a pennystock needs to back up his post with damn good arguments! JMHO
GLTA
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Response to Magoo:That really wasn't an answer. When you start broadcasting how much you are investing, and in your parties case it is substantial, people look forward to some sort on DD to coincided with the investment numbers.
Lets put it this way when you spoke to your investment pool how did you convey to them the potential of PGHI?
When, I personally see people posting how much they are investing, it just intrigues me to see how they came to that financial decision. And with that information, I can base my future investments.
For the record I have taken a long postion with PGHI.
Thank you. -Marty
Good Luck to you and your friends..
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
RavenYou are right about the amount I would like to invest. There are five others in my group. With six of us we do have more buying power that one. We have all pitched in a good amount but not more than we feel comfortable with.
We intend to stair step the buys up as the volume can support the buys.
The reason for this is that I am trying to help support the stock price and help to get it to the .05 to .06 range. My investments are to help the base along and not to buy nessarly buying at the lowest cost.
I will be meeting with John Flemming and seeing how to invest in the company either by the PPM stocks or in the manner which will most benifit overall bottom line for the company. That amount will be determined according to his marketing plan amoung other factors.
Investing in the common stocks for us will hopefully help to bring up the average stock prices and will draw the attention of the brokarage companies which will then promote it to their client base.
True I am not use to the penny stocks.
I am interested in helping this stock to advance to out of the pennies and into larger markets. By then I will be well invested in the PPM stocks.
I am a diffrent type of investor as Penny stock investors go. I do not have controll on what the MM's do but can take advantage of them from time to time to help the overall cause. I will be selling off the common stock gradually after we get to a point that it will make sence to help fuel the fire and remove my initial investment.
This stock is very attractive to me because of the top end possibilities. It is also priced at this point within the range which I can have some effect on the outcome.
You questions are very good as I do not want anyone to invest because of what I am doing. Please do your research and only invest what is comfortable for your situation.
Hope this helps
Ron B.
I understand that maybe 200k is not a substantial investment for Magoo. There are allot of newbies coming in. Going along with this threads genuine use of DD, I just thought it would be necessary to know why a investment party would be buying in on PGHI.
I want to know, besides others. It is a natural response to want to know WHY? Besides magoo,has answered with a very legitimate answer, and yes I know this individual has provided SOME DD to back up the 200K investment.
The main reason for my post tonight is to keep the same plane of DD that has been consistent with this board. Everyone, I guess has provided some form of positive DD to back up their buys.
It is tough but, I want newbies to the board to be able to read into a post and to be able to say "YES" i get it, I understand, this is truly a solid investment! Rather than just seeing: yah we are buying this amount blah blah blah.
Sorry mach to have gone on for so long.
- Marty
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
I would have to agree with m_h13021, Magoo sounds like a serious and big-pocket investor. However, boards are anonymous places where you can pretend to be anyone or anything that you want to be.I'm not saying that Magoo is a fraud but I do agree with m_h13021 that we always need to be careful on any message board. Someone saying that he wants to put $200K in the common stock and $3M in the PPM of a pennystock needs to back up his post with damn good arguments! JMHO
GLTA
I do agree with everyone here. I believe that I should not post what I am doing but should report on what I have done.
I will answer all the questions I can and will only post what I have done rather than what I am attempting to do.
This a learning experience for me
Thanks
Thank you for pointing out the possible investment from magoo's pool to the PPM(private palcement) of 3 Million dollars.
People, this individual is possible investing $3 million in PPM. Guess what you all are the first to know ON A MESSAGE BOARD! Please magoo do not take offense but damn, that is beyond allot of money, especially to note it on a message board.
Now that I have read this, why announce this on a message board. I have gone back, and read your past posts. Why announce this, with really nothing to back this up. What will your group gain by publicly announcing this?
Please elaborate, to shut up my questioning.
Mach, your thread, I do not want to rock the boat but, I do not want this pumped without facts. - Marty
I really do hope that he's serious, it would mean a lot of upside for the company!
GLTA
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Response to tommy:Thank you for pointing out the possible investment from magoo's pool to the PPM(private palcement) of 3 Million dollars.
People, this individual is possible investing $3 million in PPM. Guess what you all are the first to know ON A MESSAGE BOARD! Please magoo do not take offense but damn, that is beyond allot of money, especially to note it on a message board.
Now that I have read this, why announce this on a message board. I have gone back, and read your past posts. Why announce this, with really nothing to back this up. What will your group gain by publicly announcing this?
Please elaborate, to shut up my questioning.
Mach, your thread, I do not want to rock the boat but, I do not want this pumped without facts. - Marty
"...John Fleming will confirm that with us..."
Once again, you are on top of things. Thank you! Can't wait to meet you and all the others at the "celebration" -
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Response to tommy:Thank you for pointing out the possible investment from magoo's pool to the PPM(private palcement) of 3 Million dollars.
People, this individual is possible investing $3 million in PPM. Guess what you all are the first to know ON A MESSAGE BOARD! Please magoo do not take offense but damn, that is beyond allot of money, especially to note it on a message board.
Now that I have read this, why announce this on a message board. I have gone back, and read your past posts. Why announce this, with really nothing to back this up. What will your group gain by publicly announcing this?
Please elaborate, to shut up my questioning.
Mach, your thread, I do not want to rock the boat but, I do not want this pumped without facts. - Marty
Do not worry about me takeing this all wrong. I believe that I may have made a mistake in makeing an announcement about the private placement of cash into the company at this point.
I am not sure of the total amount as that is going to be determined by what I find with the company assets and marketing plans. This is to be determined by the research by the people who handle my financial affairs. I am not going to put in any money if there is high risk of a loss as it is not all my money to risk.
As to the amount I have invested so far it is an amount which I am willing to risk.
Once again I do realize that nobody knows me here so there will be questions about who is that guy.
Thanks for the input from everyone concerned.
Some background about my investing history:
I have been an online investor since 1997. I began with about $15,000 in an e-trade account (but I now use Scottrade) and predominantly invested in more built-up companies. I have had some great wins - Winnebago, McAfee, Ebay, etc., etc. I, like anyone in the market, have also had some losses – probably the biggest being MFNX (which went bankrupt after it turned out that they had lied about securing long-term financing). Recently, I began investing in more “uncommon” areas such as options (actually, if you are looking for more safe plays, writing covered calls or “hedge wrapping” are among the safest plays in the market).
I have turned my initial $15,000 investment into just under $100K (I have added about another $12K to the account of my own money, but the rest is from gains)….I pride myself on exercising as much DD as humanly possible for an outsider. I take my loses, but with DD, you can be better aware of the risk v. reward potential.
How I got into PGHI and why I like its value:
PGHI is the first penny stock I have ever invested in. A co-worker who is a very active trader mentioned this stock to me in late September after PGHI announced the deal with Veegeez. Just from his recommendation (I trust his opinion very much when it comes to investing), I made an initial quick investment of $1K, getting in at .008.
From there, I began reading as much as I could about this company. I have concluded that the risk v. reward potential for this stock makes it too strong of an opportunity to pass up. First, PGHI is the only publicly traded video game rental company. Therefore, although it has competition in the market place, it does not have competition in the stock market in terms of investors seeking to capitalize on the video game Netflix-style boom.
Second, the plans to launch a new website, add a “buy” feature (so you can buy a game at a discounted price if you like it), add a gift-certificate program, add a referral-program (discount off your bill if you sign a friend up), and even possibly add DVD’s to the inventory, all give the company great POTENTIAL (and that is what we are buying---potential). I also love the fact that with most games, they include the manual…which according to many of the video game chatrooms that I have visited, is important to people.
Third, I have found the company very responsive to investor’s questions. Likewise, I signed up for a membership (even though I don’t even own a video game system) just to see their customer relations --- and I have found that every one of my questions are very promptly responded to (usually within an hour). That to me is a very good sign.
I also love this stock in the short-term for technical reasons. The ascending triangle that is taking place is signaling a break out sometime in the near future (it may take the launching of the new site to really break about the .049 barrier, but we will see)….
There are several other reasons why I really like this stock, but they have been covered in other posts. Consequently, I have been purchasing in blocks since my initial $1K investment. I am very close to having 1 mil shares (which I will hopefully get on Monday or Tuesday)…I will not purchase any more common shares after that, although I plan on doing some of the private placement to give the company some capital. Having 1 mil shares makes PGHI the largest component in my portfolio. I also hold options on several Nasdaq and NYSE securities in addition to some very long term puts on the QQQ as my insurance (if the market tanks, my puts will be very valuable which will hopefully cover any losses incurred on my other holdings)….
Now, as an investor, you have to ask yourself, what are the risks -- First, there are a large number of outstanding shares compared to other companies like NFLX, and there is the potential for stock dilution in light of the large amount of authorized shares. However, as previously discussed, I believe that this is a good thing because the company is seeking to avoid further debt by raising capital through the use of stock rather than loans...The other reason for the stock’s currently low price is the clause in the contract between Veegeez and PGHI that says that if the company does not raise $500K over the next 6 mths – 1 yr, the acquisition of Veegeez may be canceled by either party and the whole deal called off. Does that create risk? Of course! Do I think that this company will raise $500K over the next 6 months? Probably. I think that there are a lot of things happening that will ensure this. There is tremendous interest in this company and I believe that many people will take advantage of the private placement. I cannot speak for Magoo, but if he is legit (and I do believe him – he has been honest about the timings of his trades), Magoo’s investment alone would raise the capital needed. If this money is raised, and PGHI can demonstrate that it can get on its feet, I think this stock will truly take off.
So here is my best guess as to what could happen in the future: The stock will trade between .04-.05 range until the launching of the website. From there, it will trade between .05-.12 until PGHI’s next financial statement. The previous f/s did not contain sufficient information about Veegeez finances because it was released very shortly after the acquisition. When the next two f/s’ are released, people (including myself) will scrutinize every detail. If there is an indication that the necessary capital is being raised, I think the stock will possibly take off from there…. To what level, I have no idea. But I do think that, factoring potential, the stock could trade in the range of .25-.75. If a reverse split is used, the stock could be brought into ranges that would place it on the Nasdaq, which would give it mainstream legitimacy and exposure.
These predictions are just that – predictions. Anything can happen. I am only giving you my opinion. It is up to you to reach your own conclusions based upon the risks you are willing to take….
I hope this answers your questions.
Josh
Excellent, this is a response with some actual facts and personal response. Very Good. This holds up much better than nothing when it comes to due diligence.
To all who are interested it is a post like this that make you pursue further research, that will ultimately have you gain all the true dd you need to feel comfortable to invest in PGHI/VeeGeez. -
quote:
Originally posted by JEB7006:
Marty -- I cannot (and do not claim to) answer for Magoo...but let me explain why I am investing in this company....Some background about my investing history:
I have been an online investor since 1997. I began with about $15,000 in an e-trade account (but I now use Scottrade) and predominantly invested in more built-up companies. I have had some great wins - Winnebago, McAfee, Ebay, etc., etc. I, like anyone in the market, have also had some losses – probably the biggest being MFNX (which went bankrupt after it turned out that they had lied about securing long-term financing). Recently, I began investing in more “uncommon” areas such as options (actually, if you are looking for more safe plays, writing covered calls or “hedge wrapping” are among the safest plays in the market).
I have turned my initial $15,000 investment into just under $100K (I have added about another $12K to the account of my own money, but the rest is from gains)….I pride myself on exercising as much DD as humanly possible for an outsider. I take my loses, but with DD, you can be better aware of the risk v. reward potential.
How I got into PGHI and why I like its value:
PGHI is the first penny stock I have ever invested in. A co-worker who is a very active trader mentioned this stock to me in late September after PGHI announced the deal with Veegeez. Just from his recommendation (I trust his opinion very much when it comes to investing), I made an initial quick investment of $1K, getting in at .008.
From there, I began reading as much as I could about this company. I have concluded that the risk v. reward potential for this stock makes it too strong of an opportunity to pass up. First, PGHI is the only publicly traded video game rental company. Therefore, although it has competition in the market place, it does not have competition in the stock market in terms of investors seeking to capitalize on the video game Netflix-style boom.
Second, the plans to launch a new website, add a “buy” feature (so you can buy a game at a discounted price if you like it), add a gift-certificate program, add a referral-program (discount off your bill if you sign a friend up), and even possibly add DVD’s to the inventory, all give the company great POTENTIAL (and that is what we are buying---potential). I also love the fact that with most games, they include the manual…which according to many of the video game chatrooms that I have visited, is important to people.
Third, I have found the company very responsive to investor’s questions. Likewise, I signed up for a membership (even though I don’t even own a video game system) just to see their customer relations --- and I have found that every one of my questions are very promptly responded to (usually within an hour). That to me is a very good sign.
I also love this stock in the short-term for technical reasons. The ascending triangle that is taking place is signaling a break out sometime in the near future (it may take the launching of the new site to really break about the .049 barrier, but we will see)….
There are several other reasons why I really like this stock, but they have been covered in other posts. Consequently, I have been purchasing in blocks since my initial $1K investment. I am very close to having 1 mil shares (which I will hopefully get on Monday or Tuesday)…I will not purchase any more common shares after that, although I plan on doing some of the private placement to give the company some capital. Having 1 mil shares makes PGHI the largest component in my portfolio. I also hold options on several Nasdaq and NYSE securities in addition to some very long term puts on the QQQ as my insurance (if the market tanks, my puts will be very valuable which will hopefully cover any losses incurred on my other holdings)….
Now, as an investor, you have to ask yourself, what are the risks -- First, there are a large number of outstanding shares compared to other companies like NFLX, and there is the potential for stock dilution in light of the large amount of authorized shares. However, as previously discussed, I believe that this is a good thing because the company is seeking to avoid further debt by raising capital through the use of stock rather than loans...The other reason for the stock’s currently low price is the clause in the contract between Veegeez and PGHI that says that if the company does not raise $500K over the next 6 mths – 1 yr, the acquisition of Veegeez may be canceled by either party and the whole deal called off. Does that create risk? Of course! Do I think that this company will raise $500K over the next 6 months? Probably. I think that there are a lot of things happening that will ensure this. There is tremendous interest in this company and I believe that many people will take advantage of the private placement. I cannot speak for Magoo, but if he is legit (and I do believe him – he has been honest about the timings of his trades), Magoo’s investment alone would raise the capital needed. If this money is raised, and PGHI can demonstrate that it can get on its feet, I think this stock will truly take off.
So here is my best guess as to what could happen in the future: The stock will trade between .04-.05 range until the launching of the website. From there, it will trade between .05-.12 until PGHI’s next financial statement. The previous f/s did not contain sufficient information about Veegeez finances because it was released very shortly after the acquisition. When the next two f/s’ are released, people (including myself) will scrutinize every detail. If there is an indication that the necessary capital is being raised, I think the stock will possibly take off from there…. To what level, I have no idea. But I do think that, factoring potential, the stock could trade in the range of .25-.75. If a reverse split is used, the stock could be brought into ranges that would place it on the Nasdaq, which would give it mainstream legitimacy and exposure.
These predictions are just that – predictions. Anything can happen. I am only giving you my opinion. It is up to you to reach your own conclusions based upon the risks you are willing to take….
I hope this answers your questions.
Josh
quote:
Originally posted by JEB7006:
Marty -- I cannot (and do not claim to) answer for Magoo...but let me explain why I am investing in this company....Some background about my investing history:
I have been an online investor since 1997. I began with about $15,000 in an e-trade account (but I now use Scottrade) and predominantly invested in more built-up companies. I have had some great wins - Winnebago, McAfee, Ebay, etc., etc. I, like anyone in the market, have also had some losses – probably the biggest being MFNX (which went bankrupt after it turned out that they had lied about securing long-term financing). Recently, I began investing in more “uncommon” areas such as options (actually, if you are looking for more safe plays, writing covered calls or “hedge wrapping” are among the safest plays in the market).
I have turned my initial $15,000 investment into just under $100K (I have added about another $12K to the account of my own money, but the rest is from gains)….I pride myself on exercising as much DD as humanly possible for an outsider. I take my loses, but with DD, you can be better aware of the risk v. reward potential.
How I got into PGHI and why I like its value:
PGHI is the first penny stock I have ever invested in. A co-worker who is a very active trader mentioned this stock to me in late September after PGHI announced the deal with Veegeez. Just from his recommendation (I trust his opinion very much when it comes to investing), I made an initial quick investment of $1K, getting in at .008.
From there, I began reading as much as I could about this company. I have concluded that the risk v. reward potential for this stock makes it too strong of an opportunity to pass up. First, PGHI is the only publicly traded video game rental company. Therefore, although it has competition in the market place, it does not have competition in the stock market in terms of investors seeking to capitalize on the video game Netflix-style boom.
Second, the plans to launch a new website, add a “buy” feature (so you can buy a game at a discounted price if you like it), add a gift-certificate program, add a referral-program (discount off your bill if you sign a friend up), and even possibly add DVD’s to the inventory, all give the company great POTENTIAL (and that is what we are buying---potential). I also love the fact that with most games, they include the manual…which according to many of the video game chatrooms that I have visited, is important to people.
Third, I have found the company very responsive to investor’s questions. Likewise, I signed up for a membership (even though I don’t even own a video game system) just to see their customer relations --- and I have found that every one of my questions are very promptly responded to (usually within an hour). That to me is a very good sign.
I also love this stock in the short-term for technical reasons. The ascending triangle that is taking place is signaling a break out sometime in the near future (it may take the launching of the new site to really break about the .049 barrier, but we will see)….
There are several other reasons why I really like this stock, but they have been covered in other posts. Consequently, I have been purchasing in blocks since my initial $1K investment. I am very close to having 1 mil shares (which I will hopefully get on Monday or Tuesday)…I will not purchase any more common shares after that, although I plan on doing some of the private placement to give the company some capital. Having 1 mil shares makes PGHI the largest component in my portfolio. I also hold options on several Nasdaq and NYSE securities in addition to some very long term puts on the QQQ as my insurance (if the market tanks, my puts will be very valuable which will hopefully cover any losses incurred on my other holdings)….
Now, as an investor, you have to ask yourself, what are the risks -- First, there are a large number of outstanding shares compared to other companies like NFLX, and there is the potential for stock dilution in light of the large amount of authorized shares. However, as previously discussed, I believe that this is a good thing because the company is seeking to avoid further debt by raising capital through the use of stock rather than loans...The other reason for the stock’s currently low price is the clause in the contract between Veegeez and PGHI that says that if the company does not raise $500K over the next 6 mths – 1 yr, the acquisition of Veegeez may be canceled by either party and the whole deal called off. Does that create risk? Of course! Do I think that this company will raise $500K over the next 6 months? Probably. I think that there are a lot of things happening that will ensure this. There is tremendous interest in this company and I believe that many people will take advantage of the private placement. I cannot speak for Magoo, but if he is legit (and I do believe him – he has been honest about the timings of his trades), Magoo’s investment alone would raise the capital needed. If this money is raised, and PGHI can demonstrate that it can get on its feet, I think this stock will truly take off.
So here is my best guess as to what could happen in the future: The stock will trade between .04-.05 range until the launching of the website. From there, it will trade between .05-.12 until PGHI’s next financial statement. The previous f/s did not contain sufficient information about Veegeez finances because it was released very shortly after the acquisition. When the next two f/s’ are released, people (including myself) will scrutinize every detail. If there is an indication that the necessary capital is being raised, I think the stock will possibly take off from there…. To what level, I have no idea. But I do think that, factoring potential, the stock could trade in the range of .25-.75. If a reverse split is used, the stock could be brought into ranges that would place it on the Nasdaq, which would give it mainstream legitimacy and exposure.
These predictions are just that – predictions. Anything can happen. I am only giving you my opinion. It is up to you to reach your own conclusions based upon the risks you are willing to take….
I hope this answers your questions.
Josh
As i have mentioned before, I have already vested myself to PGHI. I am a long term investor with this particular entity. I do have some shares that I will turn when the time is right, but as a whole I am long(year or so). I question some posts just to check the validity? As I stated before, may newbies on this particular thread. I just want accurate DD, not not the bias of some one pumping the stock without any research to back it up.
I do agree 100% people should do their own research and base their investment on this. But I have found some very creditable information here and will vouch for it. That is why I want all statement to be backed by some form of facts.
The more informed, the better off PGHI will be as far as stability. - Marty
Regards,
Mach
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Response to JEB7006:Excellent, this is a response with some actual facts and personal response. Very Good. This holds up much better than nothing when it comes to due diligence.
To all who are interested it is a post like this that make you pursue further research, that will ultimately have you gain all the true dd you need to feel comfortable to invest in PGHI/VeeGeez. -
CANDLESTICK CHARTING PATTERNS
ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN OCCURING
BREAKOUT IMMINENT
(Link Provided)
Let's talk about the ASCENDING TRIANGLE... This pattern is occuring here and will eventually lead to our BREAKOUT...
On the ascending triangle, the horizontal line represents overhead supply that prevents the security from moving past a certain level. It is as if a large sell order has been placed at this level and it is taking a number of weeks or months to execute, thus preventing the price from rising further. Even though the price cannot rise past this level, the reaction lows continue to rise. It is these higher lows that indicate increased buying pressure and give the ascending triangle its bullish bias. http://stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis/triangle-Ascending.html
.05 has been resistance on two previous occassions. Reaction lows continue to rise. When we have our final base established at .04 and our new name change and web site are released.... OUR ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN will lead to a BREAKOUT.
Also keep in mind.... as I've stated before. Because we have no previous buyers above .05... theres is ZERO upside resistance which means the BREAKOUT will be significantly stronger than most anticipate.
.10 and beyond will be here soon.
*** Future's so Bright ***
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
ASCENDING TRIANGLE AT PGHI ....
quote:
Originally posted by clay1999:
Hello... As a newbie I have been following this tread for a long time even the other PGHI tread and I did my own DD and what I see is good... I don't have much money to invest but I came up with enough to buy 30000 shares... my heart races fast every day I watch the board as it turns from green to red... and I'm staying....for the long haul but the question I ask is when do one know when to sell?... I missed a few sell point on some other stock...is there a indication? .......
[This message has been edited by machtabow2 (edited December 26, 2003).]
Knowing when to sell is probably the most difficult thing to do. How you plan to use your investment should depend on your goals. What I would recommend is to write down what your goals are. Are you investing for retirement? to buy a house? for college? for short-term gains? etc., etc
After that, write down the different scenarios and how each scenario would affect your goal. In other words, if you sold at .10, would you reach your goal? If you held, and the stock crashed, would you be destroyed?
Then, try to estimate the likelihood of each scenario... From there, you should be able to formulate a plan....
For full disclosure, I plan on a 65%/35% split. 65% of my holding will remain untouched for the longer-term. I plan on using the other 35% to swing trade. If/when PGHI pops above .05, I plan on selling some between .05-.10. This will lock in a good profit for me (I am dollar-cost averaged in the mid .02's). I will then repurchase the shares if the stock retraces (so if it hits .075, sell 25% of the portfolio, and then buy back if it drops down to .06 or something)....It is always very difficult to time it though...
The remaining 65% of my portfolio I will reevaluate sometime mid-next year when I have a better understanding of the direction the company is heading .... If it looks like they are getting their ducks in a row, I will hold for much higher levels. If it does not look like they are becoming established like I hope, I will then probably pull more money away (but again, anything can change between now and then)...
Josh
Here's a scenario...........
First a bit of history:
Between January and February of 2000, loads of OTCBB stocks spiked upwardly in a very huge way...for example IMDS went from .08 to $6.50 in about 2 months. That was only one of many. Check a 4 year chart on some others (that were in existence back then) for yourself and you'll see that many or most they have a huge upward spike during Jan-Feb of 2000. This had nothing to do with the broader market peaking in May of 2000 because these were OTCBB penny stocks, most of which had tanked in Nov-Dec 1999. What could possibly cause such a widespread effect in pennyland? Here are a few examples (click the link then change "Time Frame" to 5 years and click "Draw Chart"): http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=adot&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=cesy&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=cypt&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=cytp&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=imds&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=ivoc&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=neom&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=usvo&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=imds&time=8&freq=1
On 10/20/1999 the SEC published a "concept release" regarding new proposed shorting rules. On the agenda were certain changes to rules for shorting stocks. The issue was held for comments until 12/27/1999). Did the OTCBB shorters...naked and otherwise, feel they had to cover quickly because of the proposed rule changes? Yes, I believe so...what else could have possibly caused such a widespread effect on the OTCBB? http://www.sec.gov/rules/concept/34-42037.htm
Flash forward to the present:
On 10/22/03 the SEC held a meeting in which part of the agenda was to consider new rules for shorting and specifically to curb naked shorting on the OTCBB. The new regulation is named SHO and was voted on and passed by the SEC on 10/22/03 and filed as Release No. 34- 48709; File No. S7-23-03 RIN 3235-AJ00 and is now out for comments until 1/5/2004. Will history repeat itself? Will owners of OTCBB penny stocks be in the right place at the right time during Jan-Feb 2004 for another bonanza? I for one, as an owner of several penny issues, will be watching with great hope and anticipation.
http://www.sec.gov./rules/proposed/34-48709.htm
For all longs who are sick and tired of having their pockets picked by the "naked shorters", I recommend that you send your comments to the SEC. You may send comments electronically to:
rule-comments@sec.gov
***************************************
WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THE SYMBOL CHANGE ON THE PRICE OF OUR STOCK? WE CAN ONLY SPECULATE, BUT IT COULD BE SIGNIFICANT. WHEN ITCN CHANGED IT'S SYMBOL TO IRAC THE STOCK SURGED FROM .02 TO .09 THE NEXT DAY! MACH
Originally posted by tommy:
Also take into consideration that when a company files for a ticker symbol change, there must be NO SHORTS on the stock previous to the change. This means that MM's MUST COVER their shorts before the change or they will be in big trouble with the SEC!
TOMMY LATER CLARIFIED IT IS THE ACTUAL SYMBOL CHANGE THAT HE WAS REFERRING TO.
*******
IMHO we have seen several instances of MM manipulation with PGHI. I love it when we have the upper-hand. Will a similar scenario as the attached occur upon our name change completion and symbol change on the bb. I’ll be around to find out! It’s coming soon! Very soon! mach
*******
"But after the company
discovered it was being victimized by naked shorting by market
makers, it changed its trading symbol to IRAC, effective July 5,
2002, which thwarted the efforts of the market makers and resulted in
a jump from $0.02 as of the next trading day after the symbol change
to $0.09 as of October 14, 2002."
*******
In addition, as a result of substantial evidence that the BBAN
shareholders have been victimized by certain market makers using a
technique known as "naked shorting", BBAN's securities counsel is
investigating the trading patterns of the stock since the plan
confirmation date of July 30, 2002. "Naked shorting" is the illegal
practice of short selling shares that haven't been borrowed, or that
don't exist. Based upon the current results of this investigation as
well as the history of BBAN's common stock, the company is beginning
the process of a symbol change which would require all shareholders
to exchange their BBAN common stock for stock with the new trading
symbol.
The company is closely monitoring the activity surrounding two other
publicly traded companies which have been victimized by naked
shorting, Intrac, Inc. and Jag Media Holdings. Intrac, Inc. was once
traded on the OTCBB under the symbol ITCN. But after the company
discovered it was being victimized by naked shorting by market
makers, it changed its trading symbol to IRAC, effective July 5,
2002, which thwarted the efforts of the market makers and resulted in
a jump from $0.02 as of the next trading day after the symbol change
to $0.09 as of October 14, 2002. Similarly, Jag Media Holdings was
also victimized by naked shorting. Convinced that naked shorts were
behind the problem, Jag recapitalized its stock by retiring the old
JagNotes.com shares and replacing them with new Class A and B shares
in Jag Media Holdings. In addition to the recapitalization, Jag also
filed a lawsuit against over one hundred brokerage institutions.
Keith McAllister, co-Chairman of the Board of BBAN, stated, "we are
not going to sit here and be victimized by individuals or
institutions and their agendas. Mr. Williams, myself and our counsel,
Steve Oshins and Ron Stauber, are working aggressively to protect the
shareholders and are prepared to fight for their value."
It should be noted that while naked short selling is illegal on the retail level within the US, it is not illegal outside the US nor is it illegal within the market maker community.
"Market liquidity is generally provided through short selling by market professionals, such as market makers (including specialists) and block positioners, who offset temporary imbalances in the buying and selling interest for securities. Short sales effected in the market add to the selling interest of stock available to purchasers and reduce the risk that the price paid by investors is artificially high because of a temporary contraction of selling interest. Short sellers covering their sales also may add to the buying interest of stock available to sellers."
[This message has been edited by machtabow2 (edited December 26, 2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Will PGHI Market Makers get a “double spanking” in January… Just read this post from another thread… Please read it thouroughly… I elaborated with my post from yesterday… We can all speculate… but this does read well! machHere's a scenario...........
First a bit of history:
Between January and February of 2000, loads of OTCBB stocks spiked upwardly in a very huge way...for example IMDS went from .08 to $6.50 in about 2 months. That was only one of many. Check a 4 year chart on some others (that were in existence back then) for yourself and you'll see that many or most they have a huge upward spike during Jan-Feb of 2000. This had nothing to do with the broader market peaking in May of 2000 because these were OTCBB penny stocks, most of which had tanked in Nov-Dec 1999. What could possibly cause such a widespread effect in pennyland? Here are a few examples (click the link then change "Time Frame" to 5 years and click "Draw Chart"): http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=adot&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=cesy&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=cypt&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=cytp&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=imds&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=ivoc&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=neom&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=usvo&time=8&freq=1 http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=imds&time=8&freq=1
On 10/20/1999 the SEC published a "concept release" regarding new proposed shorting rules. On the agenda were certain changes to rules for shorting stocks. The issue was held for comments until 12/27/1999). Did the OTCBB shorters...naked and otherwise, feel they had to cover quickly because of the proposed rule changes? Yes, I believe so...what else could have possibly caused such a widespread effect on the OTCBB? http://www.sec.gov/rules/concept/34-42037.htmFlash forward to the present:
On 10/22/03 the SEC held a meeting in which part of the agenda was to consider new rules for shorting and specifically to curb naked shorting on the OTCBB. The new regulation is named SHO and was voted on and passed by the SEC on 10/22/03 and filed as Release No. 34- 48709; File No. S7-23-03 RIN 3235-AJ00 and is now out for comments until 1/5/2004. Will history repeat itself? Will owners of OTCBB penny stocks be in the right place at the right time during Jan-Feb 2004 for another bonanza? I for one, as an owner of several penny issues, will be watching with great hope and anticipation.
http://www.sec.gov./rules/proposed/34-48709.htm
For all longs who are sick and tired of having their pockets picked by the "naked shorters", I recommend that you send your comments to the SEC. You may send comments electronically to:
rule-comments@sec.gov***************************************
WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THE SYMBOL CHANGE ON THE PRICE OF OUR STOCK? WE CAN ONLY SPECULATE, BUT IT COULD BE SIGNIFICANT. WHEN ITCN CHANGED IT'S SYMBOL TO IRAC THE STOCK SURGED FROM .02 TO .09 THE NEXT DAY! MACH
Originally posted by tommy:
Also take into consideration that when a company files for a ticker symbol change, there must be NO SHORTS on the stock previous to the change. This means that MM's MUST COVER their shorts before the change or they will be in big trouble with the SEC!TOMMY LATER CLARIFIED IT IS THE ACTUAL SYMBOL CHANGE THAT HE WAS REFERRING TO.
*******
IMHO we have seen several instances of MM manipulation with PGHI. I love it when we have the upper-hand. Will a similar scenario as the attached occur upon our name change completion and symbol change on the bb. I’ll be around to find out! It’s coming soon! Very soon! mach*******
"But after the company
discovered it was being victimized by naked shorting by market
makers, it changed its trading symbol to IRAC, effective July 5,
2002, which thwarted the efforts of the market makers and resulted in
a jump from $0.02 as of the next trading day after the symbol change
to $0.09 as of October 14, 2002."
*******
In addition, as a result of substantial evidence that the BBAN
shareholders have been victimized by certain market makers using a
technique known as "naked shorting", BBAN's securities counsel is
investigating the trading patterns of the stock since the plan
confirmation date of July 30, 2002. "Naked shorting" is the illegal
practice of short selling shares that haven't been borrowed, or that
don't exist. Based upon the current results of this investigation as
well as the history of BBAN's common stock, the company is beginning
the process of a symbol change which would require all shareholders
to exchange their BBAN common stock for stock with the new trading
symbol.
The company is closely monitoring the activity surrounding two other
publicly traded companies which have been victimized by naked
shorting, Intrac, Inc. and Jag Media Holdings. Intrac, Inc. was once
traded on the OTCBB under the symbol ITCN. But after the company
discovered it was being victimized by naked shorting by market
makers, it changed its trading symbol to IRAC, effective July 5,
2002, which thwarted the efforts of the market makers and resulted in
a jump from $0.02 as of the next trading day after the symbol change
to $0.09 as of October 14, 2002. Similarly, Jag Media Holdings was
also victimized by naked shorting. Convinced that naked shorts were
behind the problem, Jag recapitalized its stock by retiring the old
JagNotes.com shares and replacing them with new Class A and B shares
in Jag Media Holdings. In addition to the recapitalization, Jag also
filed a lawsuit against over one hundred brokerage institutions.
Keith McAllister, co-Chairman of the Board of BBAN, stated, "we are
not going to sit here and be victimized by individuals or
institutions and their agendas. Mr. Williams, myself and our counsel,
Steve Oshins and Ron Stauber, are working aggressively to protect the
shareholders and are prepared to fight for their value."
On that site type in veegeez.com in the search bar powered by google. When the next page pulls up it shows you the traffic rank for the site. If you will then click on "see traffic details" it will show the increase!!
Very exciting!! 3 months ago Veegeez.com was #509,880 on the web. Now the average is #162,559 or an INCREASE OF 347,321 spots. It's all on the site for you to see.
All I can say is people are finding out about this site and parent company in a very fast manner. I'm just thankful that I found out about it when I did!!
This thread is incredible and like several others here I am new to OTCBB stocks but this one to me has goldmine written all over it!
I am now trying to learn all I can about TA as I have been primarily a fundamental investor but realize now more than ever the importance of combining fundamentals and TA when making investment decisions.
Some of you guys here are the best that I've seen!!
Let the good times roll!!
------------------
Greg Boone
j160e
I wish I were more versed on the topic. I'll read up this weekend. Im unsure as to the final status of this with respect to the SEC (as I am typing this message) If you happen to find the answer let me know. Wouldn't it be great to get this extra boost... we have sooo much going on right now... and a little extra "fire" certainly helps! I think we will get a little boost when the name and symbol change are complete... this is not too far out at all... maybe a few weeks at most.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by j160e:
Mach,
Thanks for this very thought provoking subject. As I said before, I am new to investing but am on a steep learning curve thanks to yourself and everyone else who posts on this board. Those charts certainly look similar to me right at jan. 2000. Will PHGI follow in those footsteps? I hope so and also will be around to find out. The one thing I'm confused about though is if the new regulation SHO was already voted on and passed by the SEC in October, does that mean it will be instituted regardless of the comment response they are requesting until Jan 5, 2004?j160e
Wow... doesn't seem to be a day that passes without reading another encouraging post from a long term PGHI shareholder. With so many strong hands, Im suprised there is ever any selling. "To the moon!" Well I'm glad you've read the thread. It certainly has much valuable information. I've personally learned more than you can imagine. We have a fine group of very well-rounded traders here. Many offer ideas, and insight that I personally would never have thought of... We have years of experience and knowledge working together as a great team. I often think we have seperate divisions here... Public Relations, Marketing, Web Design, Tech Analysis, Candlestick Charting, Research... I think you get the picture. There is endless possibility here. Veegeez.com will be one subsidiary of Gameznflix Inc. The possibility of future acquisitions could happen as well.... You never know...
Please feel free to continue posting valuable information and insight on this thread. The board greatly appreciates it!
***GameZNflix: Diamond in the Rough***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by diamond:
Hello Mach, mav & the rest. I am a new poster though I have read every page of this thread over the last several days.
I started accumulating shares over 2 months ago and now currently hold almost 2MM shares.
I found out about PGHI while researching another company. Ironically, the day I came across PGHI, Netflix had been all over CNBC so once I realized what the aquisition of Veegeez meant to PGHI the investment was a no-brainer for me. My kids are "gamers" so the first thing I did was get a VEEGEEZ subscription which we enjoy very much!
Secondly, I researched the competition and while there is some obviously, PGHI is the only one publicly traded!! This was very important in my decision as well.
Since that time I have monitored the marketing efforts on ALEXA.COM which is a really neat site.On that site type in veegeez.com in the search bar powered by google. When the next page pulls up it shows you the traffic rank for the site. If you will then click on "see traffic details" it will show the increase!!
Very exciting!! 3 months ago Veegeez.com was #509,880 on the web. Now the average is #162,559 or an INCREASE OF 347,321 spots. It's all on the site for you to see.
All I can say is people are finding out about this site and parent company in a very fast manner. I'm just thankful that I found out about it when I did!!
This thread is incredible and like several others here I am new to OTCBB stocks but this one to me has goldmine written all over it!
I am now trying to learn all I can about TA as I have been primarily a fundamental investor but realize now more than ever the importance of combining fundamentals and TA when making investment decisions.
Some of you guys here are the best that I've seen!!
Let the good times roll!!
mach
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
I'm glad the regulation SHO issue was brought up, I'll start a thread on it so we can discuss- there are more issues to consider besides "MM's pushing prices down"
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
i found a report from Reuters Investment Portfolio on PGHI. Does it mean anything that such a firm is reporting on a company like PGHI or is that usual? I read the report and found it very informative and reccomend it to all investors of PGHI. I am not that great at interpreting all the information in the report but found it was quite encouraging. Anyone interested in reading the report visit:
http://reports.finance.yahoo.com/w0?r=31587173:1
What a waste of my money:
http://users.adelphia.net/~x1f2/PGHI.pdf
Hopefully you get something out of it. - Marty
GL
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
i found a report from Reuters Investment Portfolio on PGHI. Does it mean anything that such a firm is reporting on a company like PGHI or is that usual? I read the report and found it very informative and reccomend it to all investors of PGHI. I am not that great at interpreting all the information in the report but found it was quite encouraging. Anyone interested in reading the report visit:
http://reports.finance.yahoo.com/w0?r=31587173:1
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Try to keep the reply on the page stockguy!
It seems like its a fundamental analysis of the past, I hope you didn't pay $20 for that. Its not entirely relevant considering the VeeGeez acquisition is the core business now, and you can get all of the ratios by looking at the FS. However, if there is a way you can post the file somewhere, or copy and paste to a file and post it, it would be much appreciated
Issued: 440,799,949
Float: 197,361,116
Authorized: 900,000,000
Information provided by:
TRANSFER AGENT - Interwest Transfer Company
Too bad we all don't live in the same city... we could hang out and talk business. *** Future's so Bright ***
mach
December 26 was a bullish start, with some consolidation, and strong close. After 6 consecutive gaining days, this was a nice even 7.
MACD- Fast has crossed the slow, BULLISH. A comparable point in PGHI's past would be November 25ish
RSI(14) 62.96 - BULLISH, up from 50 in mid DEC
Stokes- fast 58, slow 49 - may see some short term consolidation, IMO it is needed for a healthy BASE, overall 50 heading upwards to 80 - BULLISH
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Just wanted to note... We certainly have some PGHI/GameZNflix/Veegeez addicts here. Isn't it like... "Friday" night...*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
It will change considerbly next week... We are still in a "Bullish" trading pattern and believe next week... we will see continued "Bullishness". Yes we are in an area or resistnce... but eventually the higher lows... will lead to a breakout beyond .05... no problem... When that happens... watch out! You will often find that Level II is inaccurate and not a true refelection of what is really happening in the market. Let's talk about Level II monday realtime. You learn by watching Level II and talking to the board. Many here know much more about Market Maker activity than I. mach
quote:
Originally posted by diamond:
Mach, I've learned a lot in the last week about TA from the members of the board here but I am also interested in what you see on the level II screens. It looks to me as if there are not more than 2 MM's at any one ask price until over 0.05. Just curious what your take is. Still learning intracacies of sophisticated trading. TIA
By the way... I see that you've been looking for consolidation for the past three days... It will happen sometime... but we could in fact continue upward... and possibly breakout before we see any considerable consolidation... I too have thought there might be consolidation... at least one day... but each day... it continues upward... You never know... day to day movement is often the most difficult to predict... especially with PGHI. I learned that long ago...
Take Care.
mach
[This message has been edited by machtabow2 (edited December 27, 2003).]
I usually use to hate working on the weekends, but now I'm excited too, because it makes the weekend seem to go by quicker and inturn makes a new trading week not seem so far away...and where you're in a stock like PGHI the weekends can seem to last way too long!
I can't wait till monday so I can get my paycheck (hopefully with vacation pay) so I can 'wisely invest' more money into this company.
I find myself asking my parents, brothers, and even my girlfriend for some money too invest in this, I just wish I had more money, listening to people say they have 2MM shares of this company just makes me so jealous of them lol...
Yep I'm addicted to PHGI, buts its definitly not a bad addiction!
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Just wanted to note... We certainly have some PGHI/GameZNflix/Veegeez addicts here. Isn't it like... "Friday" night...*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
And I believe most people here think we will see a dollar by the end of next year. ($0.30 within a few months)
Depends how well the Marketing plan goes, but with Venture Direct working with them I think everything will go extremely well.
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Originally posted by Bazooka:
Hey guys, how far exactly do you expect this stock to go? and how soon? I know these are really hard to answer.. heh.. but can you ballpark it or give me your guess?
[This message has been edited by Moose (edited December 27, 2003).]
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Originally posted by Moose:
Should get up to .10-.15 when we see a new website and change of name I think.And I believe most people here think we will see a dollar by the end of next year. ($0.30 within a few months)
Depends how well the Marketing plan goes, but with Venture Direct working with them I think everything will go extremely well.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bazooka:
[b]Hey guys, how far exactly do you expect this stock to go? and how soon? I know these are really hard to answer.. heh.. but can you ballpark it or give me your guess?
[This message has been edited by Moose (edited December 27, 2003).][/B][/QUOTE]
Why am I so confident? Because since I bought PGHI more than 2 1/2 months ago, I've been emailing John F. (CEO) back and forth, and I was amazed at the competency of PGHI's management!
It's rare that you meet a CEO from a pennystock who's so sharp and respectful of shareholders. I suggest that you do the same and email him personally at ceo@pghi.biz, you will see what I mean!
His policy of releasing PR's only after the facts proves that he's all about action and not bullcrap or fluff! He means what he does and he does what he means!
Here's my own guess of the timeline for the weeks to come. It's just my opinion so take it for what it is!
Week of Dec 29th (2003) to Jan 2nd (2004): PGHI files Definitive 14c to finalize name change to GamezNFlix inc.
Monday Jan 5th (2004): New website goes online late that night
Tuesday Jan 6th (2004): PR announcing official name change and new website
2 weeks later: Ticker change for new company name
GLTA!
mach
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
I will be a little more confident/daring and say that we might very well see anywhere from .50 to .75 next summer.Why am I so confident? Because since I bought PGHI more than 2 1/2 months ago, I've been emailing John F. (CEO) back and forth, and I was amazed at the competency of PGHI's management!
It's rare that you meet a CEO from a pennystock who's so sharp and respectful of shareholders. I suggest that you do the same and email him personally at ceo@pghi.biz, you will see what I mean!
His policy of releasing PR's only after the facts proves that he's all about action and not bullcrap or fluff! He means what he does and he does what he means!
Here's my own guess of the timeline for the weeks to come. It's just my opinion so take it for what it is!
Week of Dec 29th (2003) to Jan 2nd (2004): PGHI files Definitive 14c to finalize name change to GamezNFlix inc.
Monday Jan 5th (2004): New website goes online late that night
Tuesday Jan 6th (2004): PR announcing official name change and new website
2 weeks later: Ticker change for new company name
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
Should get up to .10-.15 when we see a new website and change of name I think.And I believe most people here think we will see a dollar by the end of next year. ($0.30 within a few months)
Depends how well the Marketing plan goes, but with Venture Direct working with them I think everything will go extremely well.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bazooka:
[b]Hey guys, how far exactly do you expect this stock to go? and how soon? I know these are really hard to answer.. heh.. but can you ballpark it or give me your guess?
[This message has been edited by Moose (edited December 27, 2003).][/B][/QUOTE]
CANDLESTICK CHARTING PATTERNS
ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN OCCURING
BREAKOUT IMMINENT
(Link Provided)
Let's talk about the ASCENDING TRIANGLE... This pattern is occuring here and will eventually lead to our BREAKOUT...
On the ascending triangle, the horizontal line represents overhead supply that prevents the security from moving past a certain level. It is as if a large sell order has been placed at this level and it is taking a number of weeks or months to execute, thus preventing the price from rising further. Even though the price cannot rise past this level, the reaction lows continue to rise. It is these higher lows that indicate increased buying pressure and give the ascending triangle its bullish bias. http://stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis/triangle-Ascending.html
.05 has been resistance on two previous occassions. Reaction lows continue to rise. When we have our final base established at .04 and our new name change and web site are released.... OUR ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN will lead to a BREAKOUT.
Also keep in mind.... as I've stated before. Because we have no previous buyers above .05... theres is ZERO upside resistance which means the BREAKOUT will be significantly stronger than most anticipate.
.10 and beyond will be here soon.
*** Future's so Bright ***
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Originally posted by Mav:
ASCENDING TRIANGLE AT PGHI ....
I am sending John Flemming a e-mail this morning to see is I can drop in on him during my eastern trip.
If for some reason the timming is not right for him then I will make myself available as to his schedual.
I am due in New York Jan. 18 to 20th. I hope to see him before or after that.
Mr. Flemming has impressed me so far and I am hopefull that everything will fall into place.
Thanks for all the posts which everyone has made the effort to bring PGHI to light.
Ron B.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
PGHI: POINT GROUP HOLDINGS INC.
EXTRAORDIANRY OPPORTUNITY FOR SUBSTANTIAL GAINS FROM CURRENT LEVELS. CURRENT PRICE .04
Point Group Holding’s newly aquired subsidiary VEEGEEZ.COM makes it the ONLY PUBLICLY TRADED ONLINE VIDEO GAME RENTAL COMPANY.
VEEGEEZ.COM provides subscribers video game rentals via the internet similar to how Netflix.com provides DVD’s to it’s customers. Should PGHI shareholders be excited? Absolutely! Afterall, Netflix pulled off a dot-com IPO and reached profitability faster than anyone predicted. Shares leaped from $4 to $60 in less than 2 years.
Video gaming is the WORLD’S FASTEST GROWING FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT. Experts believe that it’s on track to rival the movie, music and television industries, perhaps by the end of the decade. A recent study estimates that 60% OF ALL AMERICANS -- ABOUT 145 MILLION PEOPLE -- play console and computer games on a regular basis. By 2005, game consoles will be in 70 MILLION AMERICAN HOUSEHOLDS.
Video games are much more expensive than movies with a cost of about $50 to $60 each. Video game players often get bored playing the same game over and over, and therefore RENTING VIDEO GAMES HAS BECOME A BOOMING BUSINESS.
Point Group Holding Inc. will soon complete a CORPORATE NAME CHANGE TO GAMEZNFLIX INC. Prior to the trading symbol change ALL MARKET MAKERS MUST COVER ALL SHORT POSITIONS adding considerable BUYING PRESSURE AND UPSIDE MOMENTUM to the stock price. This is expected to be complete within a few weeks.
A NEW AND ADVANCED VEEGEEZ.COM web site is currently under development. The anticipated release of the website is expected within two weeks. The new web site will include many additional features such as an optional video game purchase feature, gift certificate program, and email referral-program.
As indicated by the corporate name change GameZNflix Inc. will SOON EXPAND IT’S SERVICES TO INCLUDE DVD RENTALS. Expansion into the online DVD rental market will also assist in the acquisition of new subscribers and dramatically increase revenues.
Tech analysis indicating likely BREAKOUT FROM CURRENT TRADING LEVELS will occur soon. Bullish indicators include: MACD bullish crossover, Bollinger Bands Contracting, On Balance Volume Increasing.
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=PGHI,uu[m,a]daclyyay[da][pb5!b10][vc60][iUb14!La12,26,9]&pref=G
Candlestick analysis indicating BULLISH ASCENDING TRIANGLE DEVELOPMENT. Higher lows that indicate increased buying pressure and a NEAR-TERM BREAKOUT IMMINENT
http://stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis/triangle-Ascending.html
AMERICANBULLS RECOMMENDATION: DECEMBER 23, 2003 THE CORRECTION IS OVER AND THE STOCK IS STARTING A NEW RALLY. IT IS AGAIN TIME FOR BULLS. YOU MAY MAKE HEFTY PROFITS IF YOU BUY THIS STOCK NOW AND HOLD IT UNTIL THE NEXT SELL SIGNAL. LONG TERM TREND IS NOW BULLISH.
Thanks for your help
I look forward to the results of your trip. If you decide to invest a considerable amount of money in the PPM then we would certainly like to know. Either way... I'm sure that many members would like to learn the details of your meeting. Thanks again for your efforts and Due Diligence. Good luck to you.
Regards,
mach
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Originally posted by Magoo:
Hi MachI am sending John Flemming a e-mail this morning to see is I can drop in on him during my eastern trip.
If for some reason the timming is not right for him then I will make myself available as to his schedual.
I am due in New York Jan. 18 to 20th. I hope to see him before or after that.
Mr. Flemming has impressed me so far and I am hopefull that everything will fall into place.
Thanks for all the posts which everyone has made the effort to bring PGHI to light.
Ron B.
Thanks for your help
Thats a great summary Mach!
If you have read my previous post about observations of Fleming (Tommy)you are aware of my opinion that he is a practical thinker as well as being extremely calculated.All that post here realize that there is never any fluff posted about the company.What Fleming wants you to know he allows to be leaked when he thinks it's time.He let us know about the name change and the site and I have to believe that is just the platform for the events that will arise in January.I say this because the best time to promote a product is when you have a captive audience.It is my belief that Fleming realizes we already know what is coming and are waiting anxiously so what better time to make some announcements that we are not yet aware of than when you have an audience with their tongues hanging out.If I am correct in my thinking Fleming will make some major announcements in January over and above what we are aware of which will provoke some major investments and the stock price to soar.This man is a KEEN STRATEGIST he knows the share price will go up when the site and name change occurs and then what usually happens is it will flatten out.That is why I believe he will at that point have new announcements to keep the trend running the share price even higher.This will establish an extremely strong BRAND following for GAMESNFLIX. as well as the monies to grow inventory.I am not trying to encourage anyone to sell or buy this stock,I am merely speaking out loud to recieve some input from others about my thoughts.
TRSTURGUT-18
I agree with you. There are so many possibilities here. We continue talking about Veegeez.com but have only modestly considered the possibility of further dot com acqusitions. What about gameZNflix.com... No doubt this will happen in the near future also... So much speculation.... and I'm glat Flemming(Tommy) is here to give us a subtle hint once in a while. This is only the beginning. *** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH,If you have read my previous post about observations of Fleming (Tommy)you are aware of my opinion that he is a practical thinker as well as being extremely calculated.All that post here realize that there is never any fluff posted about the company.What Fleming wants you to know he allows to be leaked when he thinks it's time.He let us know about the name change and the site and I have to believe that is just the platform for the events that will arise in January.I say this because the best time to promote a product is when you have a captive audience.It is my belief that Fleming realizes we already know what is coming and are waiting anxiously so what better time to make some announcements that we are not yet aware of than when you have an audience with their tongues hanging out.If I am correct in my thinking Fleming will make some major announcements in January over and above what we are aware of which will provoke some major investments and the stock price to soar.This man is a KEEN STRATEGIST he knows the share price will go up when the site and name change occurs and then what usually happens is it will flatten out.That is why I believe he will at that point have new announcements to keep the trend running the share price even higher.This will establish an extremely strong BRAND following for GAMESNFLIX. as well as the monies to grow inventory.I am not trying to encourage anyone to sell or buy this stock,I am merely speaking out loud to recieve some input from others about my thoughts.
TRSTURGUT-18
Glad to hear you and your family will be coming on board. I see chatter across the net... on other boards... everywhere about PGHI/GameZNflix and truly believe our breakout will happen sooner than most think!
This could turn out to be a huge home run for your first investment.
mach
quote:
Originally posted by whymejc:
I have started an investment club with my family and it looks like this is the first stock we will buy on monday morning...
Thanks for all the info on this one, i will try to contrbute to this amazing site when I can. I had mentioned CTKH to allstocks a couple of months ago...I hope some got into it @.0002 like I did.
Regards
Ed
quote:
Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH,If you have read my previous post about observations of Fleming (Tommy)you are aware of my opinion that he is a practical thinker as well as being extremely calculated.All that post here realize that there is never any fluff posted about the company.What Fleming wants you to know he allows to be leaked when he thinks it's time.He let us know about the name change and the site and I have to believe that is just the platform for the events that will arise in January.I say this because the best time to promote a product is when you have a captive audience.It is my belief that Fleming realizes we already know what is coming and are waiting anxiously so what better time to make some announcements that we are not yet aware of than when you have an audience with their tongues hanging out.If I am correct in my thinking Fleming will make some major announcements in January over and above what we are aware of which will provoke some major investments and the stock price to soar.This man is a KEEN STRATEGIST he knows the share price will go up when the site and name change occurs and then what usually happens is it will flatten out.That is why I believe he will at that point have new announcements to keep the trend running the share price even higher.This will establish an extremely strong BRAND following for GAMESNFLIX. as well as the monies to grow inventory.I am not trying to encourage anyone to sell or buy this stock,I am merely speaking out loud to recieve some input from others about my thoughts.
TRSTURGUT-18
I do agree fully with you. Mach has done a great job in the research which he has done and his insight into what he believes the pattern for PGHI will take place.
I am not as versed in the area of research which Mach is but I do have a good feel for how bussiness is set up and run. John Flemming has not missed a step in his approach as to the news getting out to shareholders. I do not believe that he will not release any news until he is ready to or has put in motion the factors to make the statements come true.
John has leaked out some of the information for upcomming news which has stired up much attention. It is going to be interesting the content of that news as he realizes that this will have a strong effect on what the shares will do.
I am hopefull that the new web page and name change will happen as schedualed. These are major factors in the direction which shareholders will take.
Thanks for the post. I do believe that we think much alike.
Those of you who know me from the RB board will confirm this. John F. is 54, I'm 26.
I live in Seattle, more like Bellevue, and I work at Amazon.com.
Tommy
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH,If you have read my previous post about observations of Fleming (Tommy)you are aware of my opinion that he is a practical thinker as well as being extremely calculated.All that post here realize that there is never any fluff posted about the company.What Fleming wants you to know he allows to be leaked when he thinks it's time.He let us know about the name change and the site and I have to believe that is just the platform for the events that will arise in January.I say this because the best time to promote a product is when you have a captive audience.It is my belief that Fleming realizes we already know what is coming and are waiting anxiously so what better time to make some announcements that we are not yet aware of than when you have an audience with their tongues hanging out.If I am correct in my thinking Fleming will make some major announcements in January over and above what we are aware of which will provoke some major investments and the stock price to soar.This man is a KEEN STRATEGIST he knows the share price will go up when the site and name change occurs and then what usually happens is it will flatten out.That is why I believe he will at that point have new announcements to keep the trend running the share price even higher.This will establish an extremely strong BRAND following for GAMESNFLIX. as well as the monies to grow inventory.I am not trying to encourage anyone to sell or buy this stock,I am merely speaking out loud to recieve some input from others about my thoughts.
TRSTURGUT-18
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Originally posted by tommy:
Hehe hold on guys, I AM NOT John Fleming, it's very flattering from all of you who think that I am, but I am not!Those of you who know me from the RB board will confirm this. John F. is 54, I'm 26.
I live in Seattle, more like Bellevue, and I work at Amazon.com.
Tommy
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Well, at least you and I are on the same page.*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
A Challenge: Find a stock with better techs than this
No I'm serious- try and find one
This stock is very healthy, not a pump-n-dump like 99% of OTC:BB's!
GLTA
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Does anyone else see this? Please, someone else that can read techs please confirm that this is the best pattern, and technical situation that they see out of all the stocks they are watching for next week.A Challenge: Find a stock with better techs than this
No I'm serious- try and find one
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Originally posted by tommy:
cabagge22, I agree 100% with you, nothing bad to say about this chart, the cup and handle patterns are just beautiful!This stock is very healthy, not a pump-n-dump like 99% of OTC:BB's!
GLTA
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quote:
Originally posted by diamond:
Hey everyone, I was just looking at a few charts on stockta.com and one of the companies that I looked at was IDNW, now GLBT.
If you'll remember Tommy's post about MM's having to cover all shorts prior to a symbol change, you may find this interesting. Sure looks as if this has merit because IDNW formed a nice base the week before last in the 0.06 range. Then all of a sudden a couple of days prior to the actual symbol change...KABOOM.
It now trades under the ticker symbol GLBT and last traded around 0.23...pretty nice move if I say so myself.
I believe we are in for a similar move!! And we have several major impending events all set to happen on top of that in conjunction with the symbol change or reasonably close to each other IMO!!
Based on what I've seen with other companies and knowing what we have coming in the next couple of weeks, i.e. new website, intro of dvd rentals etc. I can see PGHI trading in the 0.25 range very soon (during January).
It's anybody's guess from there based on management's execution of the business plan and the success of the full blown marketing campaign by Venture Direct Worldwide.
Exciting times, wouldn't you say??
I have read many good messages today! This one really got me excited! Welcome to the board. You win the...
*** Message of the Day Award!!!!!!!!! ****
mach
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Originally posted by diamond:
Hey everyone, I was just looking at a few charts on stockta.com and one of the companies that I looked at was IDNW, now GLBT.
If you'll remember Tommy's post about MM's having to cover all shorts prior to a symbol change, you may find this interesting. Sure looks as if this has merit because IDNW formed a nice base the week before last in the 0.06 range. Then all of a sudden a couple of days prior to the actual symbol change...KABOOM.
It now trades under the ticker symbol GLBT and last traded around 0.23...pretty nice move if I say so myself.
I believe we are in for a similar move!! And we have several major impending events all set to happen on top of that in conjunction with the symbol change or reasonably close to each other IMO!!
Based on what I've seen with other companies and knowing what we have coming in the next couple of weeks, i.e. new website, intro of dvd rentals etc. I can see PGHI trading in the 0.25 range very soon (during January).
It's anybody's guess from there based on management's execution of the business plan and the success of the full blown marketing campaign by Venture Direct Worldwide.
Exciting times, wouldn't you say??
quote:
Originally posted by diamond:
Hey everyone, I was just looking at a few charts on stockta.com and one of the companies that I looked at was IDNW, now GLBT.
If you'll remember Tommy's post about MM's having to cover all shorts prior to a symbol change, you may find this interesting. Sure looks as if this has merit because IDNW formed a nice base the week before last in the 0.06 range. Then all of a sudden a couple of days prior to the actual symbol change...KABOOM.
It now trades under the ticker symbol GLBT and last traded around 0.23...pretty nice move if I say so myself.
I believe we are in for a similar move!! And we have several major impending events all set to happen on top of that in conjunction with the symbol change or reasonably close to each other IMO!!
Based on what I've seen with other companies and knowing what we have coming in the next couple of weeks, i.e. new website, intro of dvd rentals etc. I can see PGHI trading in the 0.25 range very soon (during January).
It's anybody's guess from there based on management's execution of the business plan and the success of the full blown marketing campaign by Venture Direct Worldwide.
Exciting times, wouldn't you say??
This is one of the most critical points which will determine a rapid rise in the value of the stock.
Might say that the MM's can't get caught with their shorts down
Great Post
This makes me very happy
I will not make the same mistake here with PGHI. I was pretty well sold on IDNW also with the DD I had done, but let the MM's push me out. I actually bought into it twice and both times the MM's drove it down. It didn't do what I expected, and I got out. Paid the price.
The pattern with PGHI is the same. Its a learning experience. PGHI will help heal the wounds of my past impatience.....and soon!
PSU
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Kaboom! That's an understatement! This stock surged from .06 to .18... within a few days... after the name and symbol change. Wow! This happens all the time with the name/symbol changes... you are right! I do hope some people are as excited as me... We could easily see .10-.15 within a few weeks... We have so much going on... it's an understatement... New site... name change... symbol change... and a hot service! Those who are reading the board tonight... research this very closely... I do not dare sell a single share at this point in time... Those 5-10% gains are nothing compared to what is about to happen here! Boy... take a look at this chart!
http://www.stockta.com/cgi-bin/analysis.pl?symb=IDNW&num1=3&cobrand=&mode=stock
I wonder what PGHI's new symbol will be...maybe GMFX?
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
It would be really nice... just to have a QUICK REFERENCE CHART of a company that recently had a name and symbol change with a visual of the stock movement.... IDNW would be a great sample if someone could please post this sample with a summary.... Thanks for your help! mach
On the other hand, if the PPS runs up above their shorting price and they have to cover ASAP before the symbol change because the SEC requires them to, then they will have to run the PPS even higher after the change because they will want to make their money back after having to cover at a loss.
Either way it's a win-win situation for us BUT we clearly see that if we hold strong and don't let go of our shares for cheap, we will force the MM's to buy back at a loss and have to run the PPS higher after the name change to get their money back.
The 52 week high is 0.049 so if we can break that level before the symbol change and force the MM's to buy back at a loss and at the same time hold strong on our shares, the pop will be humongous right before and then after the symbol change!
Sorry if I sounded redundant in my statement, I just wanted to make it real clear!
Long and strong people! GLTA!
Thanks for the follow-up post. It truly is great to have a visual for everyone to see the impact and the potential of the name and symbol change. We have had several people ask the question... "How high will it go near term." I've hesitated to answer the question... and you can certainly see why. Truly... "Skies the limit." IDNW is a perfect example of a strong company with strong leadership that traded in a similar pattern... went through a name change and symbol chane and surged to .23 cents within a few months. What a great example.. and every reason more to hold onto those shares and realize the full potential here.
As PSU stated... there have been too many times that I have been impatient and expected gains sooner... or "taken" gains sooner... and didn't realize the full potential of my investment. PGHI is simply one of the hottest trading stocks on the BB.... and I will not let go this time... mach
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Cabbage,Thanks for the follow-up post. It truly is great to have a visual for everyone to see the impact and the potential of the name and symbol change. We have had several people ask the question... "How high will it go near term." I've hesitated to answer the question... and you can certainly see why. Truly... "Skies the limit." IDNW is a perfect example of a strong company with strong leadership that traded in a similar pattern... went through a name change and symbol chane and surged to .23 cents within a few months. What a great example.. and every reason more to hold onto those shares and realize the full potential here.
As PSU stated... there have been too many times that I have been impatient and expected gains sooner... or "taken" gains sooner... and didn't realize the full potential of my investment. PGHI is simply one of the hottest trading stocks on the BB.... and I will not let go this time... mach
I am going to have to stop looking for more examples until later today because the more I think about this the more I can't get anything else done!
Can you imagine if Tommy's time line is right and all of these other enhancements, PR'S come out BEFORE the effective date of the name and symbol change we will be looking at a major explosive move to the upside because we have NO RESTISTANCE above 0.05
Not a pump here, but I truly believe that with all of these events converging in a close time frame, many of us on this board and elsewhere will realize a MILLION DOLLAR stock holding real soon!!
Gotto go now, I'm starting to sshhaakkkee!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
Mach, I have been busy doing DD all over the net and I have read in others boards that the name change is an imminent event, for the looks of it this could happen anytime from now, if this happen this could be a huge run for PGHI; name change, new website, hot industry, great earnings forecast, I mean, this could move a enormous volume. What do you think ?.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
quote:
Originally posted by diamond:
Good morning Mach and all,
Hey I found another company that had a name & symbol change this past week. Check out SAFS, closed at 1.64 on 12-22-03 then on the day of the symbol change (12-23-03) CLOSED at 2.68. Like I said last night, KABBOM!!!I am going to have to stop looking for more examples until later today because the more I think about this the more I can't get anything else done!
Can you imagine if Tommy's time line is right and all of these other enhancements, PR'S come out BEFORE the effective date of the name and symbol change we will be looking at a major explosive move to the upside because we have NO RESTISTANCE above 0.05
Not a pump here, but I truly believe that with all of these events converging in a close time frame, many of us on this board and elsewhere will realize a MILLION DOLLAR stock holding real soon!!
Gotto go now, I'm starting to sshhaakkkee!!!
GL
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Diamond... Great DD again. I'm glad we have you on board here. It certainly helps with our DD.*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Walt
GL
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Originally posted by newstockpicker:
Raven, all I can say is, they have done it in the past ... and history does have a tendency to repeat itself. These guys (institutions) are in the BUSINESS of making money, and they will use (and do use) any means at their disposal to make as much as possible. Legal or not. They know if they get caught naked shorting they are going to get the proverbial slap on the hand, lose a little money now, but in the long run they make that up in spades. IMO they have shorted PGHI as much as they possibly could and will be scrambling this coming week to cover them. Watch for HUGE volume coming soon!Walt
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Naked shorting of BB penny stocks is a common practice of MM. IMHO Market Managers will take every oppotruntiy to make a buck... Whether they choose to go long or "naked short". Key is they have the option and I believe they have used and continue to use it when they can. "Not being able to naked short" in the days preceding the name change and also when the new SEC regulatons take affect (regarding naked shorting) will dramatically impact upside movement for PGHI as well as all BB stocks. imho mach
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Originally posted by raven76:
Walt,
I am not saying they never short $.03-.04 stocks..But can you just give me one good reason to take a short position at PGHI?
(e.g bankruptcy possibility, management failure, disappointing earnings)
I can't find one good reason..GL
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Originally posted by raven76:
Hi all,
interesting and new points as always..
IMO, MM's are not short at this one, or in other words they are not that stupid to do so..Don't forget MM's are financial institutions,they have more knowledge and experience than most of us..This is .04 stock with great potential..There is NO single reason for MM's to short this at this point..Yeah, they maybe short it but on a daily basis without taking too much risk..
If there is any short here, probably they are Canadians or some other foreign traders( who are allowed to short) just because the stock is @ around 52 week high..Let me repeat,none of the smart traders would short this one at this point..
I might be wrong..GL
Raven
I do agree with you on this point. The MM's are big money people who have already taken in consideration all the possibilities. They most likely do have shorts on a daily bases. So if they are short they can cover with a small loss compared to the profits which they have already taken here.
As the value climbs so do their profits so the shorts if any is already calculated into the overall factors.
Everyone here includeing myself would love to see the MM's get burned.
This will not be the reason for our own profits but the events with PGHI has planned will be the driving force behind the changes.
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Originally posted by clay1999:
oops... *newbie
Clay
I am a new also
Most of the people here are miles ahead of me but are very helpful. Don't be afraid to ask any questions. I have found that Mach and the others are very prompt with answers
Key point is that near term... WE ARE TAKING THAT ABILITY AWAY FROM THEM... How will that impact the stock... You can see that other members have shown you a few examples.
imho... as I watch PGHI trade... MM have agressively brought the price down... You can see how difficult it is to bring the price down... often moving .001 cents per day... over several days... and then moving agressively up when MM's can no longer manipulate the price down... Do you really think this doesn't happen? Welcome to the world of investing.
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It should be noted that while naked short selling is illegal on the retail level within the US, it is not illegal outside the US nor is it illegal within the MARKET MAKER COMMUNITY.
"Market liquidity is generally provided through short selling by market professionals, such as market makers (including specialists) and block positioners, who offset temporary imbalances in the buying and selling interest for securities. Short sales effected in the market add to the selling interest of stock available to purchasers and reduce the risk that the price paid by investors is artificially high because of a temporary contraction of selling interest. Short sellers covering their sales also may add to the buying interest of stock available to sellers."
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With the anticipated increase in demand of PGHI/GameZNflix stock because of ongoing developments and the fact the MM will not be able to "Naked Short" the stock but rather are forced to cover short positions up to and including the day of the name change... I believe you will see a dramatic upside price movement. This will happen soon. Keep in mind also... there is no upside selling pressure beyond .05. No shareholders own shares beyond that price. This will also dramatically impact the move. I would not be suprised if we did hit .20. It has happened and we have shown the examples. We are in a perfect situation.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Why does Naked Short Selling Occur by MM's... because they can and it do. Much relates to market liquidity. They do not take into consideration whether the stock is trading at .01... .02 ... or .03...Key point is that near term... WE ARE TAKING THAT ABILITY AWAY FROM THEM... How will that impact the stock... You can see that other members have shown you a few examples.
imho... as I watch PGHI trade... MM have agressively brought the price down... You can see how difficult it is to bring the price down... often moving .001 cents per day... over several days... and then moving agressively up when MM's can no longer manipulate the price down... Do you really think this doesn't happen? Welcome to the world of investing.
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It should be noted that while naked short selling is illegal on the retail level within the US, it is not illegal outside the US nor is it illegal within the MARKET MAKER COMMUNITY."Market liquidity is generally provided through short selling by market professionals, such as market makers (including specialists) and block positioners, who offset temporary imbalances in the buying and selling interest for securities. Short sales effected in the market add to the selling interest of stock available to purchasers and reduce the risk that the price paid by investors is artificially high because of a temporary contraction of selling interest. Short sellers covering their sales also may add to the buying interest of stock available to sellers."
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
I'd like to elaborate...With the anticipated increase in demand of PGHI/GameZNflix stock because of ongoing developments and the fact the MM will not be able to "Naked Short" the stock but rather are forced to cover short positions up to and including the day of the name change... I believe you will see a dramatic upside price movement. This will happen soon. Keep in mind also... there is no upside selling pressure beyond .05. No shareholders own shares beyond that price. This will also dramatically impact the move. I would not be suprised if we did hit .20. It has happened and we have shown the examples. We are in a perfect situation.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Example... maybe they see buying pressure slowing... at let's say .03... so they intentionally pull the floor out...and place a "Fake Wall"... then "Cover short Positions" used to bring the price down... "Covering under .03"... which ultimately results to a stock resuming it's upward move...
This is happening here. And we have seen many examples... "Fake Walls", "Intentional Breakdowns" ... and so does "Naked Shorting". It's all about trading and using every resource you can to make money. I would feel sorry for those whom sold below .03... but many of us explained what was happening and encouraged people to buy below .03 when they could... Just an example...
I don't believe they are using the ability to "short" as a long term investment strategy... but rather as a way to "control" as much as they can... "short-term" and day to day stock movement. The less tools they have at there disposal... the better for us. It's like a big chess game... but it's nice to know that we can win...
*** Future's so Bright ***
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Originally posted by raven76:
Jiffer,
E.g,as I mentioned before I am holding AACs as well and following it..
There were 5 MM @ the ask of .03..You know with how many shares this fake wall fall?
Just with 65,000 sh..
of course I don't expect it to be the same way here..My opinion was 2.5-3m needed to break..(in one of my previous posts)GL
On the major US exchanges, market makers (MMs) are able to short stocks to maintain fair and orderly markets but they must borrow the shares on margin to affect the short position. This ensures that very thin (hard-to-borrow) shares are somewhat immune to manipulation by short sellers. It also assures that 'borrowed' stock is available for delivery to the purchaser on the date of settlement.
Stocks quoted on the OTC Bulletin Board are treated differently, however. These 'higher-risk' shares are classified as 'non-marginable' and accordingly can only be purchased with cash. Since it's against the law (in the U.S.) to borrow cash account stock, some OTC BB market makers through the years have allegedly followed the practice of 'naked' shorting, which many believe has resulted in a perpetual failure to deliver.
Penny investors for years have cried foul, claiming some Bulletin Board MMs operate as a printing press, compromising the integrity of the system. OTC BB market makers do not have a time limit on when they must cover their (naked) short positions. Sometimes it is believed that they do not deliver shares they have shorted for several weeks and months after the designated day of settlement. This allows MMs time to flood the market with stock and to get any interested longs to invest in the stock with paid promotions and other 'pumping' tactics. Then, MMs allegedly (and sometimes viciously) walk the market for the shares down so they can cover at their leisure or not cover at all. As one disgruntled penny investor once cited, "Hardly a fair and orderly way to operate a multi-billion dollar market."
Personally I place much of the blame of the current state of the OTC Bulletin Board and Pink Sheet markets on MM manipulation. I have witnessed it first hand and believe it to be a true fact of life on the OTC Bulletin Board. MMs never have to cover, and so they don't. Ultimately, stocks get walked down lower and lower, until they trade for sub-pennies. Then, these OTC BB companies reverse split or reverse merge the stock, and start the game all over again. There is no normal supply and demand to the markets for OTC BB stocks, and consequently, investors are left somewhat to the devices of the MMs, not really knowing if naked shorting is occurring or new common shares are flooding the market. It's anything but fair and orderly.
If penny investors contact the NASD or regulators, they will say that you have to do more than just allege that MM manipulation or fraud has occurred. You have to almost prove it before the NASD will seek to further investigate the matter. Because of the lack of tough regulations on the OTC BB and Pink Sheets, MMs often can (if they want to) get away with murder (naked shorting). If you look at the firms that are the market makers for the OTC BB, you get the sense that these are not the Merrill Lynch's and Goldman Sachs of the world.
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Originally posted by coumars:
Not for tech Gurus like Mach, For the Newbie's about short selling
http://www.investopedia.com/university/shortselling/shortselling1.asp
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Originally posted by newstockpicker:
Raven, all I can say is, they have done it in the past ... and history does have a tendency to repeat itself. These guys (institutions) are in the BUSINESS of making money, and they will use (and do use) any means at their disposal to make as much as possible. Legal or not. They know if they get caught naked shorting they are going to get the proverbial slap on the hand, lose a little money now, but in the long run they make that up in spades. IMO they have shorted PGHI as much as they possibly could and will be scrambling this coming week to cover them. Watch for HUGE volume coming soon!Walt
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Ranger, just type the full url, no code needed http://www.stockta.com/cgi-bin/candle.pl?symb=pghi&size=analysis&support=0.00,3,0.00,22,0
As for the discussion of shorting and naked shorting- yes, the MM are shorting on PGHI. Friday for example, the push down after a huge run to resistance was likely to be shorting. WHY? Because they know they can manipulate it down, and make money buying it back next week before it explodes.
I think what raven is saying, is that there are no long term shorts. There may be a few, but I can't imagine there would be a great deal. This doesn't matter IMO, because the daily shorting that goes on is not always covered immediately, and can stretch out for a few days or weeks before a cover. When the news or symbol change occurs, there will be shorts, and they will need to be covered.
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Originally posted by ranger6922:
hi all, im new to this bb and was wondering if someone could explain to me how to post a link on this bb. i have tried several times but cant seem to figure it out i read the pop up page on "ubb codes" but i still wasent sure
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Good morning PGHI addicts,Ranger, just type the full url, no code needed http://www.stockta.com/cgi-bin/candle.pl?symb=pghi&size=analysis&support=0.00,3,0.00, 22,0
As for the discussion of shorting and naked shorting- yes, the MM are shorting on PGHI. Friday for example, the push down after a huge run to resistance was likely to be shorting. WHY? Because they know they can manipulate it down, and make money buying it back next week before it explodes.
I think what raven is saying, is that there are no long term shorts. There may be a few, but I can't imagine there would be a great deal. This doesn't matter IMO, because the daily shorting that goes on is not always covered immediately, and can stretch out for a few days or weeks before a cover. When the news or symbol change occurs, there will be shorts, and they will need to be covered.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ranger6922:
[b]hi all, im new to this bb and was wondering if someone could explain to me how to post a link on this bb. i have tried several times but cant seem to figure it out i read the pop up page on "ubb codes" but i still wasent sure
It's winter,it's Sunday afternoon and you are supposed to watch football games.Now instead of saying honey leave me alone i'm watching the game.It's honey leave me alone I'm feeling .25 a share for PGHI.GAMES N FLIX has taken over my life.I would sit in front of my streamers to pick out the next winner for my Monday mornings choice, would it be FGWC , MSGL, IBZT ,VRMD? Now I sit in front of my portfolio of holdings like a mental patient trying to figure out which holdings I will sell, so I can put another chunk into PGHI.I do believe the MM's will still play with this and I expect that, afterall the manipulation is their profit.I also realize that I am playing on their home turf so I have to play the game their way and when they are forced to do so they will let me play too.I believe January will be a nice turning point but just before Presidents day in February will be the time the steam engine gets cranking.That is when I would expect a statement of another GAMES N FLIX product to be unleashed outside of VeeGeez.There is a lot of talk about VeeGeez and rightfully so, but do not lose sight of the fact that it is not about VeeGeez it is about GAMES N FLIX something much larger than VeeGeez.I owned IDNW and they will probably become a great company but to change your name from PGHI which really doesn't say anything to GAMES N FLIX you are really creating name recognition and defining your purpose to the consumer. Thank you to all that have provided so much useful information and helped educate us all to become better investors.As I have stated before this is truely a unique bunch.Just my thoughts and my wishful thinking.In the words of MACH BUFFET the future is so bright.
TRSTURGUT-18
TRSTURGUT-18
I'm glad to see the morning wasn't wasted, and that there was some good information posted- cant wait for tomorrow, I'll try and be up by the bell!
BTW I've been a PGHI since the 0.008 level, don't worry guys!
GLTA!
BTW I've been a PGHI ADDICT since the 0.008 level, don't worry guys!
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Originally posted by tommy:
If you guys want something to do, scour the SEC website and find the regulation on not covering your shorts before the ticker change. I'll be searching for that too, I remember reading it in the past but the site is so vast that I don't remember where!BTW I've been a PGHI since the 0.008 level, don't worry guys!
GLTA!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by diamond:
Hey guys, I found another example of apparent MM short covering with a name and symbol change. ISPA changed to SFNM back in June of this year.
Sorry I do not know how to post the link from stockta.com but here is the bottom line you can check it out for yourselves.
The last trade on ISPA the day before the name change was at 0.44 (up 0.10 for the day).
But get this, it GAPPED up to $3.00 right after the ticker symbol change!!! Can you believe this folks?
Every example that I look at has had multiple 100% jumps beginning a couple of days before and continuing for 1 or 2 days after the change. AND, all this WITHOUT ANY OTHER NEWS WHATSOEVER!!
I've said it before but where can we go with all the things we have coming up the rest of December and into January!!??
Could be a MOONSHOT guys!!
I'm strapped in how about you?? This is way too much fun.
Talk to you guys later. Gotta calm down again.LOL
I believe the SEC papers were filed but about how many days does it take for the change to occur... whenever the company decides to change the name or is there a set time period?
Thanks!
The definition on shorting and naked shorting was enlightening!
The trading symbol (ticker) change is another story. They need to file another request for that. I personally believe that all of that will be done no more later than 2 weeks into Jan 2004.
Keep an eye on the Def. 14c filing this week...
GLTA!
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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Does anyone know when the official day is for the name change or a decent guesstimate?I believe the SEC papers were filed but about how many days does it take for the change to occur... whenever the company decides to change the name or is there a set time period?
Thanks!
The definition on shorting and naked shorting was enlightening!
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Originally posted by tommy:
The name change is finalized after they file the Definitive 14c with the SEC, the last filing was the Preliminary 14c.The trading symbol (ticker) change is another story. They need to file another request for that. I personally believe that all of that will be done no more later than 2 weeks into Jan 2004.
Keep an eye on the Def. 14c filing this week...
GLTA!
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Originally posted by tommy:
The name change is finalized after they file the Definitive 14c with the SEC, the last filing was the Preliminary 14c.The trading symbol (ticker) change is another story. They need to file another request for that. I personally believe that all of that will be done no more later than 2 weeks into Jan 2004.
Keep an eye on the Def. 14c filing this week...
GLTA!
Tommy is right about the filings and possible time frame
I have had my lawyer check into this. It seems that the definitive filing should take three or four days. The ticker change only takes a couple of days. The ticker change is approved once it is checked that there is not a duplication. Only takes a day or two.
All this will be controlled by when the forms are filed so it is in the hands of John Flemming.
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Originally posted by tommy:
Wow, I just saw that a bunch of people, including Machtabow, have been advertising (pumping?) PGHI on the various Yahoo boards!
What do you expect the time frame for this to be? I imagine very soon. mach
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Originally posted by Magoo:
Tommy is right about the filings and possible time frameI have had my lawyer check into this. It seems that the definitive filing should take three or four days. The ticker change only takes a couple of days. The ticker change is approved once it is checked that there is not a duplication. Only takes a day or two.
All this will be controlled by when the forms are filed so it is in the hands of John Flemming.
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach, look at this chart for PGHI,
daclyyay[db][pb5!d20,2][vc60][iUp65,5,3!La12,26,9]&pref=G]http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=PGHI,uu[m,a]dacly yay[db][pb5!d20,2][vc60][iUp65,5,3!La12,26,9]&pref=G
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
I sent an E-Mail to Fleming for the PPM paperwork and along with it asked for the time frame for the name change to take place.He will be away till Jan 1,2004 and I should receive a response upon his return.I will post as soon as I hear.TRSTURGUT-18
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
I see the chart Mav. Anything in specific that I shoudl be looking at? mach
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Magoo...What do you expect the time frame for this to be? I imagine very soon. mach
All the filings and approvals should take about ten days Definitive14c and ticker change.
It is in John Flemmings hands as to when he starts the procedures. I do not know if there is a reason for him to start this asap or maybe he has some reasons we are not aware of at this point.,
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Originally posted by Magoo:
All the filings and approvals should take about ten days Definitive14c and ticker change.It is in John Flemmings hands as to when he starts the procedures. I do not know if there is a reason for him to start this asap or maybe he has some reasons we are not aware of at this point.,
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
Yes, look at the trading always near the upper bollinger band. !
mach
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
IDNW recently went through a symbol change, and look at the impact it had on the stock's performance as the shorts were forced to buy back. The symbol is now GLBT, and is trading around .23I wonder what PGHI's new symbol will be...maybe GMFX?
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
This is one of the best post I've seen today... It's a reiteration of Diamonds post but the chart is a good indication of what could likely happen with the symbol change. Worth bringing to the front for newbies.mach
mach
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Originally posted by Mav:
WOW, thanks Mach for that chart, it is a clear display of how a name change can improve the price performance and extend the uptrend pattern way up from current levels (PGHI scenario).
CANDLESTICK CHARTING PATTERNS
ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN OCCURING
BREAKOUT IMMINENT
(Link Provided)
Let's talk about the ASCENDING TRIANGLE... This pattern is occuring here and will eventually lead to our BREAKOUT...
On the ascending triangle, the horizontal line represents overhead supply that prevents the security from moving past a certain level. It is as if a large sell order has been placed at this level and it is taking a number of weeks or months to execute, thus preventing the price from rising further. Even though the price cannot rise past this level, the reaction lows continue to rise. It is these higher lows that indicate increased buying pressure and give the ascending triangle its bullish bias. http://stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis/triangle-Ascending.html
.05 has been resistance on two previous occassions. Reaction lows continue to rise. When we have our final base established at .04 and our new name change and web site are released.... OUR ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN will lead to a BREAKOUT.
Also keep in mind.... as I've stated before. Because we have no previous buyers above .05... theres is ZERO upside resistance which means the BREAKOUT will be significantly stronger than most anticipate.
.10 and beyond will be here soon.
*** Future's so Bright ***
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Originally posted by Mav:
ASCENDING TRIANGLE AT PGHI ....
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I thought you knew me better than that.I should have rephrased my statement.I will not post the PPM info but post the news of the name change if Fleming will give me an indication in his E-Mailabout the time frame.MACH I will E-Mail you a copy when I receive it.PGHI is on I-HUB.There is talk on EZ TRADIN & PANNETTA.It seems they are all waiting for the breakout and once Omni goes for it seems the entire forum will always follow his lead.
TRSTURGUT-18
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH,I thought you knew me better than that.I should have rephrased my statement.I will not post the PPM info but post the news of the name change if Fleming will give me an indication in his E-Mailabout the time frame.MACH I will E-Mail you a copy when I receive it.PGHI is on I-HUB.There is talk on EZ TRADIN & PANNETTA.It seems they are all waiting for the breakout and once Omni goes for it seems the entire forum will always follow his lead.
TRSTURGUT-18
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
No Mav... Thank Cabbage for this... I still don't know how to post these things... but it's worth bringing to the front page.mach
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Tommy, I have mentioned pghi on a few boards in which i trade pennies. I always reciprocate good information with my many penny friends. It would be great if someone at ihub did mention pghi on the breakout boards. Thanks mach.
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Wow... board is pretty busy for a Sunday evening... Friday Night it was smoking! Have never seen so much excitement before! mach
Good to see that everyone cannot wait for the next tradeing session. The more eyes we have involved the higher the volume will go. Everyone who get's involved at these prices will be able to watch the growth once the higher levels are broken through.
Hold strong and watch your profit grow
Find stocks that are being shorted (most stocks are since it helps the MM's keep prices down and in line with the rest of the market) and plan on having a symbol change. Invest a 2-5 days before symbol change and cash out the day after for a quick +++100% gain $$$ ...just imo
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Originally posted by Moose:
I think we've found a new trading stratagy here.Find stocks that are being shorted (most stocks are since it helps the MM's keep prices down and in line with the rest of the market) and plan on having a symbol change. Invest a 2-5 days before symbol change and cash out the day after for a quick +++100% gain $$$ ...just imo
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Originally posted by PSU90:
Mach....I saw it on IHUB yesterday. Its making the rounds!
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=2007160
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Originally posted by tommy:
Hehe that's not a very good suggestion here because having everyone dump their shares after the name change would tank the PPS and kill the stock!
Having a ticker change means that all past trading activities will dissappear. In other words let's say we trade at the 0.10 level right before the ticker change, after the change people will only see that 0.10 level and will never see that the stock used to trade at the sub-penny level prior to the change! Unless they knew about PGHI before the change, newbies coming in after the change will think that they are investing in a whole new company!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Yes... but I really still don't see too many people selling PGHI... Much more going on than just a symbol change... That is simply icing on the cake. mach
If you have any GTC sell orders in place for your PGHI shares, you may want to doublecheck them. I have personally moved the biggest chunk of my shares to a GTC over $5.00. If/when it ever gets there, I would be a very happy investor!
For the "trading" chunk of shares, I have staggered GTC's in from the .10 range up to $1.00. I'll continue to evaluate these as events unfold over the next couple weeks.
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Originally posted by diamond:
Hey guys, I found another example of apparent MM short covering with a name and symbol change. ISPA changed to SFNM back in June of this year.
Sorry I do not know how to post the link from stockta.com but here is the bottom line you can check it out for yourselves.
The last trade on ISPA the day before the name change was at 0.44 (up 0.10 for the day).
But get this, it GAPPED up to $3.00 right after the ticker symbol change!!! Can you believe this folks?
Every example that I look at has had multiple 100% jumps beginning a couple of days before and continuing for 1 or 2 days after the change. AND, all this WITHOUT ANY OTHER NEWS WHATSOEVER!!
I've said it before but where can we go with all the things we have coming up the rest of December and into January!!??
Could be a MOONSHOT guys!!
I'm strapped in how about you?? This is way too much fun.
Talk to you guys later. Gotta calm down again.LOL
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Originally posted by tommy:
Mach here's another plus for the ticker change that you can add to your list.Having a ticker change means that all past trading activities will dissappear. In other words let's say we trade at the 0.10 level right before the ticker change, after the change people will only see that 0.10 level and will never see that the stock used to trade at the sub-penny level prior to the change! Unless they knew about PGHI before the change, newbies coming in after the change will think that they are investing in a whole new company!
GLTA!
Walt
The message below summarized EXACTLY what I think..There isn't much to add..I believe the price will go "to the moon" bacause of the necessary steps management will take, not because of naked short covering.. However, I respect all the contrary opinions, and would be more then happy if it's true...
GL
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Raven... do you believe in MM manipulation? Would it be safe to say that the MM use every tool at their disposal if for example they desire to bring the price down... to collect shares to maintain market liquidaty... After all they need shares to trade... and they obviously are not going to accumulate near the highs...Example... maybe they see buying pressure slowing... at let's say .03... so they intentionally pull the floor out...and place a "Fake Wall"... then "Cover short Positions" used to bring the price down... "Covering under .03"... which ultimately results to a stock resuming it's upward move...
This is happening here. And we have seen many examples... "Fake Walls", "Intentional Breakdowns" ... and so does "Naked Shorting". It's all about trading and using every resource you can to make money. I would feel sorry for those whom sold below .03... but many of us explained what was happening and encouraged people to buy below .03 when they could... Just an example...
I don't believe they are using the ability to "short" as a long term investment strategy... but rather as a way to "control" as much as they can... "short-term" and day to day stock movement. The less tools they have at there disposal... the better for us. It's like a big chess game... but it's nice to know that we can win...
*** Future's so Bright ***
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To guarentee that you get shares- I personally would bid .041 to .042, however I believe the ask was .04 at Friday's close, bid .039
Including myself, I believe I've seen about 5 people mention they are buying Friday-
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Originally posted by newstockpicker:
My E-check finally cleared and has posted to my account, so I can pick up some more shares tomorrow. My question to the board is, what is the lowest price I should bid? I am at work the entire time the market is open and don't have access to my account from there, so I have to put in a GTC order before I leave for work in the morning. I have a nice little amount already, but would really love to pick up some more and don't want to get left out.Walt
Thanks ... .042 is what I had figured myself, but just wanted someone to kind of confirm my thoughts.
Walt
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Tommy... the only way im looking is up... I do not see anything changing anytime soon.... You will see .30/.50 and beyond soon.... Doesn't matter where it's been... The only thing that matters is whre it's goin! mach
After all, when the PPS is at .30-.50 will it really matter that much? Nah, didn't think so!
An old philosophy that I live by applies here I think. "Don't trip over pennies on your way to dollars!!"
Regardless, I'm pulling for you and hope you get your additional shares at your price for THE RIDE!! GLTY
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Originally posted by newstockpicker:
My E-check finally cleared and has posted to my account, so I can pick up some more shares tomorrow. My question to the board is, what is the lowest price I should bid? I am at work the entire time the market is open and don't have access to my account from there, so I have to put in a GTC order before I leave for work in the morning. I have a nice little amount already, but would really love to pick up some more and don't want to get left out.Walt
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Mach I will be emailing you shortly about some DD I found....
*** Future's so Bright ***
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Originally posted by raven76:
Mach,
sorry for the late response..Me and my wife had some company, so I couldn't reply earlier..The message below summarized EXACTLY what I think..There isn't much to add..I believe the price will go "to the moon" bacause of the neccessary steps management will take, not because of naked shorting covering.. However, I respect all the contrary opinions, and would be more then happy if it's true...
GL
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Does anyone know where I can find a list of John Flemings past positions as well as his personal website? I know its in one of these threads, but if someone can find this for me I will be very happy
alot of info here to read
clay
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=1876
GL
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
This board is more active than I've ever seen it! Wow!*** Future's so Bright ***
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Does anyone know where I can find a list of John Flemings past positions as well as his personal website? I know its in one of these threads, but if someone can find this for me I will be very happy
I wish we all lived in one city so we could all meet and discuss things. But this board is the second best thing... being utilized well
Someday!
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
this may be an odd question but has anyone tried ordered to tried the Botanical Chi that is ran by PGHI? does anyone see a expansion in that realm of PGHI or mostly in the game rental website?
mach
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Originally posted by clay1999:
I live in Romulus Michigan
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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
I'm in Napa, California, Clay. Looks like we won't be getting together for a glass of wine or a beer anytime soon to discuss stocks. But if we do well we should all meet up somewhere real warm
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Originally posted by DADOFMONEY:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by stockguy04:
[b]this may be an odd question but has anyone tried ordered to tried the Botanical Chi that is ran by PGHI? does anyone see a expansion in that realm of PGHI or mostly in the game rental website?
[/B][/QUOTE]
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Originally posted by Mav:
Mach, i have been noticing a huge activity around PGHI, all positive information. I am wondering if they know something we don't ?. with all the great DD that has been done here, what else could be ???.
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Originally posted by drwright68:
here are 2 stocks that fleming has been involved with GLXS and MLRI
62 people on the website now!
Mach i sent you an email
72 people on the website now!
1754 visitors today
4858 pages today
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
I stand corrected72 people on the website now!
1754 visitors today
4858 pages today
comes out to 1.3 Unique Visitors per MINUTE!
Remember this number, so we can reference it in a couple weeks
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
I stand corrected72 people on the website now!
1754 visitors today
4858 pages today
GLTA!
PVPV = Pages viewed per visitor
Date Visitors Pages Viewed Time (PVPV)
11/01/03 1473 3559 23:30 2.42
11/02/03 1025 3106 23:37 3.03
11/03/03 1062 3735 23:28 3.52
11/04/03 1185 3579 23:48 3.02
11/05/03 1299 4343 23:30 3.34
11/06/03 1164 3188 23:00 2.74
11/07/03 1012 6687 23:32 6.61
11/08/03
11/09/03
11/10/03
11/11/03 1237 6706 23:26 5.42
11/12/03 1773 7452 21:08 4.20
11/13/03
11/14/03 1728 10090 23:46 5.84
11/15/03 2193 16346 23:53 7.45
11/16/03 2234 9366 23:31 4.19
11/17/03 2210 12595 23:06 5.70
11/18/03
11/19/03 1723 26645 23:50 15.46
11/20/03 1615 22211 23:38 13.75
11/21/03 1828 17803 22:50 9.74
11/22/03 1640 9267 23:28 5.65
11/23/03 1583 8680 23:40 5.48
11/24/03 2106 17514 23:28 8.32
11/25/03 2949 26991 23:36 9.15
11/26/03 2542 22764 23:25 8.96
11/27/03 1902 13122 23:35 6.90
11/28/03 2117 18939 23:56 8.95
11/29/03 1657 12083 23:28 7.29
11/30/03 1761 12138 23:32 6.89
12/01/03 2022 20025 23:33 9.90
12/02/03 2032 9732 23:40 4.79
12/03/03
12/04/03
12/05/03 2548 23074 23:46 9.06
12/06/03 3738 26569 23:35 7.11
12/07/03 4147 26856 23:36 6.48
12/08/03 5007 31109 23:23 6.21
12/09/03 3905 23638 23:05 6.05
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
I stand corrected72 people on the website now!
1754 visitors today
4858 pages today
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
I stand corrected72 people on the website now!
1754 visitors today
4858 pages today
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Originally posted by diamond:
Magoo, Just curious as to what your plan of action is on Monday as far as additional share purchases?
I am going to try to pick up a few more to make it an even 2 MM heading into the RUN!!
Good luck to you. I hope you make millions with this company.
Diamond
I plan on trying to pick up some shares tomorrow. However I am going to put a buy offer in after I make it to work. By that time it will be about (am and I can see where the prices are at that time.
I will try to purchase blocks of 50 to 100,000 shares. The price depends on what the price is at when I am able to check it in the morning.
As a guess I believe that the price will probably be around .041 or .042.
I have purchased most of my shares at below .03 and some most of the rest up to .035
I purchase what I can average out and recover my costs if the stock drops .08 below my last purchase. The main base of 1.5 million has been bought at the lower costs. Hopefully I will be able to triple my base of 1.5 million. I am doing this by stair stepping the buys so that it helps with the volume and the higher price buys are covered by the lower cost stocks I already own in case the price drops.
Ron B.
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Originally posted by Magoo:
DiamondI plan on trying to pick up some shares tomorrow. However I am going to put a buy offer in after I make it to work. By that time it will be about (am and I can see where the prices are at that time.
I will try to purchase blocks of 50 to 100,000 shares. The price depends on what the price is at when I am able to check it in the morning.
As a guess I believe that the price will probably be around .041 or .042.
I have purchased most of my shares at below .03 and some most of the rest up to .035
I purchase what I can average out and recover my costs if the stock drops .08 below my last purchase. The main base of 1.5 million has been bought at the lower costs. Hopefully I will be able to triple my base of 1.5 million. I am doing this by stair stepping the buys so that it helps with the volume and the higher price buys are covered by the lower cost stocks I already own in case the price drops.
Ron B.
I might add that I am going all in if and when we hit .05
GLTA!
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Originally posted by tommy:
I have a feeling that we might reach a new high before the end of the year this week. Am I the only one feeling this?GLTA!
On the ascending triangle, the horizontal line represents overhead supply that prevents the security from moving past a certain level. It is as if a large sell order has been placed at this level and it is taking a number of weeks or months to execute, thus preventing the price from rising further. Even though the price cannot rise past this level, the reaction lows continue to rise. It is these higher lows that indicate increased buying pressure and give the ascending triangle its bullish bias. http://stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis/triangle-Ascending.html
.05 has been resistance on two previous occassions. Reaction lows continue to rise. When we have our final base established at .04 and our new name change and web site are released.... OUR ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN will lead to a BREAKOUT.
Also keep in mind.... as I've stated before. Because we have no previous buyers above .05... theres is ZERO upside resistance which means the BREAKOUT will be significantly stronger than most anticipate.
.10 and beyond will be here soon.
*** Future's so Bright ***
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Originally posted by Mav:
ASCENDING TRIANGLE AT PGHI ....
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
IDNW recently went through a symbol change, and look at the impact it had on the stock's performance as the shorts were forced to buy back. The symbol is now GLBT, and is trading around .23I wonder what PGHI's new symbol will be...maybe GMFX?
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Originally posted by pbwizard:
New Banner just given to me so I can add it to my websites.
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I told you I'd be up early! Looks like it will be an interesting day for PGHI, No news yet that I could find.
I'm looking for an ETF that tracks the OTCBB microcaps, any suggestions? all I could find is DFSCX
Time for coffee
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
SCHB moved up on the Bid to .039, along with NITE.I told you I'd be up early! Looks like it will be an interesting day for PGHI, No news yet that I could find.
I'm looking for an ETF that tracks the OTCBB microcaps, any suggestions? all I could find is DFSCX
Time for coffee
Good luck today guys. Its off to work for me but I will be able to check in from time to time and to snag some shares.
It's a good sign that Schb is trying at .039. That shows that we have a solid base.
Hold Strong
At least we know what side they'll be playing off the start!
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
SCHB moved up on the Bid to .039, along with NITE.I told you I'd be up early! Looks like it will be an interesting day for PGHI, No news yet that I could find.
I'm looking for an ETF that tracks the OTCBB microcaps, any suggestions? all I could find is DFSCX
Time for coffee
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
*** BANNER ***
Hi all! Newbie here. Unfortunately bought 100,000 shares at .048 I'm very excited though and I know .048 may be the best entry point possible by this afternoon. Anyway, My son who is 16 is also an investor of this stock with me and he is a full time Web Master. He liked the banner for Veegeez, but wanted to improve apon it and put it on his pages. We didn't know if he should spend his time now or wait till the changes that are coming up before he does so. He has hundreds of gaming friends around the world and wants to post the banner everywhere he can. Any advice would be appreciated. Tia
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Wow! This is looking good... MM backing off big time on the ask! Could we run today! I think we will see 20 million plus volume! imho mach
[This message has been edited by Mav (edited December 29, 2003).]
GAP UPPPPPPPP!!!
mach
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Were we right, or were we rightGAP UPPPPPPPP!!!
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Originally posted by john19623:
Hi all! Newbie here. Unfortunately bought 100,000 shares at .048 I'm very excited though and I know .048 may be the best entry point possible by this afternoon. Anyway, My son who is 16 is also an investor of this stock with me and he is a full time Web Master. He liked the banner for Veegeez, but wanted to improve apon it and put it on his pages. We didn't know if he should spend his time now or wait till the changes that are coming up before he does so. He has hundreds of gaming friends around the world and wants to post the banner everywhere he can. Any advice would be appreciated. Tia
GO PGHI
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Originally posted by john19623:
Hi all! Newbie here. Unfortunately bought 100,000 shares at .048 I'm very excited though and I know .048 may be the best entry point possible by this afternoon. Anyway, My son who is 16 is also an investor of this stock with me and he is a full time Web Master. He liked the banner for Veegeez, but wanted to improve apon it and put it on his pages. We didn't know if he should spend his time now or wait till the changes that are coming up before he does so. He has hundreds of gaming friends around the world and wants to post the banner everywhere he can. Any advice would be appreciated. Tia
post that banner everywhere you can. It certainly will not hurt the stock or the business...
pres
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Et alors...???
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
1 Mil in 11 Minutes....Nite holding strong
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Originally posted by Mav:
I CAN SEE MANY BUY ORDERS @ 0.044, BID UP @ 0.042
MM regrouping
The good thing is we are dancing with the resistance w/o news...Imagine what will happen when news hits..
GL
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Originally posted by raven76:
.045-.05 is the toughest..As mentioned before, if we break .05, fasten your seatbelts....The good thing is we are dancing with the resistance w/o news...Imagine what will happen when news hits..
GL
You guys are doing a Great Job, keeping us all informed.
Thanks!
Look whos on the bid, NITE CRWN SACM, all important movers for pghi, BAMM waiting in the wings
WIEN has stopped dumping from friday.
The day could close right now and I'd be happy.
THERE GOES NITE .044
Wow! Bid up to .045! Back to the action.
j160e
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Originally posted by tommy:
Mach here's another plus for the ticker change that you can add to your list.Having a ticker change means that all past trading activities will dissappear. In other words let's say we trade at the 0.10 level right before the ticker change, after the change people will only see that 0.10 level and will never see that the stock used to trade at the sub-penny level prior to the change! Unless they knew about PGHI before the change, newbies coming in after the change will think that they are investing in a whole new company!
GLTA!
I hope that I'm wrong though!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Well guys... if we get a close @.045 or above and news tommorrow... then watch out... We will get our break-out... Remember... Flemming likes his Tuesday News releases! mach
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
I agree... The break @.05 will be very significant for us... It's a simple psychological wall... once broken... the price should move dramatically! Volume is outstanding today @ 4 million in the first hour. Buying continues... mach
FRAN in on the action leading the bid,
I would say the 6th is a good guesstimate for the PR, but don't rule out tomorrow, a lot of CEO's do work on their vacations, and typing up a PR is not that difficult
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Originally posted by FlyWolf:
Is it safe to say that we have established a new base in the low forties?
Filled 25000 at 0.045 Auto Routing 2003-12-29 10:59:55
Now, let's break that .05 resistance!!!
1) The 5 day EMA is 0.040
2) We have gone up to 0.045 and back down to 0.040 twice last week so we have consolidated more and more each time
GLTA!
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Originally posted by FlyWolf:
Is it safe to say that we have established a new base in the low forties?
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Originally posted by tommy:
I would say yes because:1) The 5 day EMA is 0.040
2) We have gone up to 0.045 and back down to 0.040 twice last week so we have consolidated more and more each timeGLTA!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Our base of .037 has moved to .041 (LOTD)FRAN in on the action leading the bid,
I would say the 6th is a good guesstimate for the PR, but don't rule out tomorrow, a lot of CEO's do work on their vacations, and typing up a PR is not that difficult
However, I clearly bought 25000 more and am currently holding 100,000 shares. Averaged down to the mid 30's.
While the ask was at .046 I put in a limit order at .045. After a few minutes, it finally took.
GLTA!
Slow, but confident & strong & strong& very strong
Future is so bright, hehehe!!
GL
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Originally posted by tommy:
cabbage22, true that they can type it but if you have been emailing JF before concerning PGHI's PR's, you would know that they have to clear management and also the company's lawyer, so it's a hard thing to do when everyone is on vacation!GLTA!
pres
GL
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Originally posted by presumptuous:
Level II looking great for a run now. All resistance has been cleared. One MM by the time now...pres
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Great intraday entry point IMHO, try a .042 bid you might get lucky and catch a weak one
What would you guys say would be the high for the stock in '04 ?
You'll find that many of us are here for the long term, this thread could get huge!
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Originally posted by bill:
hey mach
i am invested for the long term in this stock. I think the management is an honest one and gaming rentals are here to stay.What would you guys say would be the high for the stock in '04 ?
The more weak hands we get rid off the stronger will be the run-up..
GL
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
We know who, the weak hands, the nervous newbie's, and people without L2 quotes
I don't dare to guess about 2004. It will be pretty high! Nice to hear you are riding the bull. mach
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Originally posted by bill:
hey mach
i am invested for the long term in this stock. I think the management is an honest one and gaming rentals are here to stay.What would you guys say would be the high for the stock in '04 ?
GL
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Originally posted by machtabow2:
Bill...I don't dare to guess about 2004. It will be pretty high! Nice to hear you are riding the bull. mach
IMO, anything under .045 is good..
GL
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
what is a good bid price now.. im tryin to get more at .041 but its not sending
GL
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
wow i just got a partial fill .. do i get charged commision twice for partial fills?
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
We know who, the weak hands, the nervous newbie's, and people without L2 quotes
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
anyone here who has ameritrade... when i watch the streamer chart for volume for the buys and sells. i see red green and white bars.. what kind of transactions are represented by the white bars?>
White means the price from the open of the time period was the same as the price at the close of the time period
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
anyone here who has ameritrade... when i watch the streamer chart for volume for the buys and sells. i see red green and white bars.. what kind of transactions are represented by the white bars?>
[This message has been edited by stockguy04 (edited December 29, 2003).]
That was a buy at the ask, but since the first trade at the beginning of the period was at .041, the bar remains white
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
For example, the white bar just formed .041That was a buy at the ask, but since the first trade at the beginning of the period was at .041, the bar remains white
GL
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Originally posted by stewartfan:
Watching this thread finally convinced me. (In @ .042) Incredible charts!
Most of the selling is small trades, except for one 150,000 which is small by some measures. The gap up today was great huh?
Did anyone else catch CESY before it started to move?
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Haven't we seen this pattern before? Hehe
I'm surprised people arent getting scared and second guessing themselves.
Most of the selling is small trades, except for one 150,000 which is small by some measures. The gap up today was great huh?
Did anyone else catch CESY before it started to move?
GLTA!
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
is anyone reading the ragingbull.com posts for PGHI. that post is full of trash talking and and not very informative.. tommy is that u on the other board also..?newbie[This message has been edited by stockguy04 (edited December 29, 2003).]
j160e
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Originally posted by tommy:
stockguy04, yeah that's me on the RB! RB is doomed, I only use it for fun, I prefer this Allstock board for the serious DD!GLTA!
Sometimes people mistaken excitement and passion with pumping!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by j160e:
It wasn't always like that. About 8 weeks ago is when my attention turned to this stock due in part to a lot of good DD posts on RB mainly by Tommy. Too bad some others deteriorated that board. Thanks again Tommy! Glad your over here.j160e
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Originally posted by tommy:
You're welcome j160e, too many losers on the RB, I couldn't post any serious DD there anymore without being called a pumper!Sometimes people mistaken excitement and passion with pumping!
GLTA!
BAMM ups it to .041 GVRC down to .042
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MACH,I thought you knew me better than that.I should have rephrased my statement.I will not post the PPM info but post the news of the name change if Fleming will give me an indication in his E-Mailabout the time frame.MACH I will E-Mail you a copy when I receive it.PGHI is on I-HUB.There is talk on EZ TRADIN & PANNETTA.It seems they are all waiting for the breakout and once Omni goes for it seems the entire forum will always follow his lead.
TRSTURGUT-18
For those who got in recently, be patient too and you will feel the same way I do when this baby hits .10+!
GLTA!
"PGHI $ 0.043 0.003 7.5% 5,681,692 .046 resistance... if this stock can get above .048 or .049..."
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Originally posted by chrissy_a:
TRSTURGUT can you pleasepost the links for the two message boards you mentioned in your post below. TIA Chrissy
HotStockChat .com and this is what it says....
0.043 0.003 7.5% 5,681,692 .046 resistance... if this stock can get above .048 or .049...
I posted this on RB also, thanks for posting it here Tommy.
Think it will happen?
I certainly do :-)
pres
Left RB too, done over there. This has become the best board.
Regards Ed
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Originally posted by presumptuous:
We need a close in the 40's today...Think it will happen?
I certainly do :-)
pres
Left RB too, done over there. This has become the best board.
I was so curious at work that I called my girlfriend up to look @ the current prices. No online access @ work.
Looks very strong... just waiting to blow up.
Until Next Time!
Plus over 10 mil in volume....
Ascending triangle is looking beautiful...
Next step is to establish .043 as our new floor...then .045...etc., etc....soon we will break .049
We'll see...
pres
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Originally posted by JEB7006:
Very very very good day for those of us in it for the long term. Closed @.043 after bouncing off the low of .039. Proved the strength of the floor....Plus over 10 mil in volume....
Ascending triangle is looking beautiful...
Next step is to establish .043 as our new floor...then .045...etc., etc....soon we will break .049
Just one man's opinion... :-)
pres
GLTA!
GLTA!
Walt
Either way my guess is that they will release a PR as soon as they have plan for that money to be used.
GLTA!
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
is there any way we can find out how much of the 500k capital that PGHI needs to be raised has been ammassed so far?
Runnin around at work all day and do not get to check the site until I get home.Sorry I could not respond earlier.I see PSU sent you the info.
[TRSTURGUT can you pleasepost the links for the two message boards you mentioned in your post below. TIA Chrissy]
Netflix was incorporated on August 29, 1997 and began operations on April 14, 1998.
They use a proprietary software system which recommends selections by creating a custom interface for each individual subscriber.
They believe they are superior to their competition by providing a more comprehensive selection which includes more than 15,000 titles on more than 5.1 million DVD’s.
By the end of 2003, they expect to reach 70% of their subscribers (or 60% of the U.S population) with one day delivery.
Online advertising is considered to be their largest paid source of new subscribers. Third parties that place online ads and generate online subscription referrals are generally paid a cash bounty for each subscription referred. Netflix has agreements with DVD player manufacturers requiring them to place advertising inserts inside boxes and they also have a relationship with Best Buy for promotional efforts. They have revenue sharing agreements with more than 50 studios and distributors to obtain titles for lower initial costs in exchange for sharing of subscription revenues for a defined period of time, generally 1 year. This allows for the acquisition of more copies of each title.
There are 23 distribution centers with an average set-up cost of approximately $60,000 for each. Average size of a dc is 5,000 sq. ft. The executive offices are in a 25,000 sq. ft. leased building and there is another 50,000 sq. ft. leased building for customer service, IT and distribution. Customer Service is available 7 days/wk.
As of 12/31/02, there were 381 full time employees.
As of 09/30/03 Netflix has 80,000,000 authorized and 24,227,548 issued and outstanding shares of common stock.
Revenues and # of Subscribers for year end were:
1998 - $1,339,000 / NA
1999 - $5,006,000 / 107,000
2000 - $35,894,000 / 252,000
2001 - $75,912,000 / 456,000
2002 - $152,806,000 / 857,000
2003* - $191,058,000 / 1,291,000 as of *Sept. 30
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
HotStockChat.COM is a website that is managed by or put together by one of the announcers on TradersNation. This is where I found the website and the information.I posted this on RB also, thanks for posting it here Tommy.
I to am just getting home from work an now and checking in. I was able to grab some more shares so I am closer to my overall goal.
The best thing is that we are averaging up step by step. When the news breaks we will be in prime position with little to no resistance as we close in on the .05 mark.
I believe that the MM's are going to less of a factor as they are looking at the big boom closeing in. Belive me they are after your shares. That is why they are haveing trouble keeping the price down as shareholder are looking at all the research and are not being bluffed out of their shares.
Hold Strong
Great work!
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Breakout Imminent
"Even though the session opened and closed with little change, prices moved significantly higher and lower in the mean time. Be careful, this indicates weakness among the bulls and a potential change or interruption in the current trend!"
"Weakness among the bulls", yeah right! LOL They should instead say "be careful, the MM's are trying to shake the tree to take your shares!"
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
http://www.americanbulls.com/StockPage.asp?CompanyTicker=PGHI&MarketTicker=OTC&Typ=S
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Hehe Americanbulls says that:[b]"Even though the session opened and closed with little change, prices moved significantly higher and lower in the mean time. Be careful, this indicates weakness among the bulls and a potential change or interruption in the current trend!"
"Weakness among the bulls", yeah right! LOL They should instead say "be careful, the MM's are trying to shake the tree to take your shares!"
GLTA!
[/B]
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
american bulls doesnt take into consideration PR or any outside factors
If this hits .05 or better on its own merit
it should reach .10 without much holding it back and if the PR comes at that point I would not be suprised to see it fly to .25 and then stabilize @.18 to .20
Should a PR come @.045 in my opinion it would be a costly mistake.I believe TIMING is the key in maximizing your opportunities and Fleming is to calculated a thinker not to take advantage of the strong buying pressure into the end of the year and then come out with something in early January at which time the buying pressure may ease up just a little.Just my thoughts and I have been wrong plenty of times.
BTW....I am sure between all the people on this thread we can put the 500k together that Fleming needs.Maybe we should have a group representative and approach him.I hear Kentucky is real nice at this time of the year.I know MAGOO is in and I am in any other takers?I'm serious!
TRSTURGUT-18
quote:
Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
No PR's till it hits .05 please!!!If this hits .05 or better on its own merit
it should reach .10 without much holding it back and if the PR comes at that point I would not be suprised to see it fly to .25 and then stabilize @.18 to .20
Should a PR come @.045 in my opinion it would be a costly mistake.I believe TIMING is the key in maximizing your opportunities and Fleming is to calculated a thinker not to take advantage of the strong buying pressure into the end of the year and then come out with something in early January at which time the buying pressure may ease up just a little.Just my thoughts and I have been wrong plenty of times.BTW....I am sure between all the people on this thread we can put the 500k together that Fleming needs.Maybe we should have a group representative and approach him.I hear Kentucky is real nice at this time of the year.I know MAGOO is in and I am in any other takers?I'm serious!
TRSTURGUT-18
GL
quote:
Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
No PR's till it hits .05 please!!!If this hits .05 or better on its own merit
it should reach .10 without much holding it back and if the PR comes at that point I would not be suprised to see it fly to .25 and then stabilize @.18 to .20
Should a PR come @.045 in my opinion it would be a costly mistake.I believe TIMING is the key in maximizing your opportunities and Fleming is to calculated a thinker not to take advantage of the strong buying pressure into the end of the year and then come out with something in early January at which time the buying pressure may ease up just a little.Just my thoughts and I have been wrong plenty of times.BTW....I am sure between all the people on this thread we can put the 500k together that Fleming needs.Maybe we should have a group representative and approach him.I hear Kentucky is real nice at this time of the year.I know MAGOO is in and I am in any other takers?I'm serious!
TRSTURGUT-18
quote:
Originally posted by Wooter:
Wouldn't the PPM's be the way to do this?
Wooter
I would be in favor of this. However it is a PPM issue rather than a group plan. everyone would be investing a different amount and would be entitled to a profit in accordance to the terms set forth. It would be nice to have John Flemming be able to tell us as to how much he has collected in order to see what investment he needs to meet his goal. He may be willing to do that but I do not think it would be in his best interest to do so.
These are some of the questions which I will have for him. I am also interested in another approach which I will need to speak directly with him about.
I do feel that He will have a couple of options for the funding which he needs so it is his decision as to what is best for his path of action.
We are all sitting here without the facts so once it comes to the surface then It will be better to form a proper plan of action at that time.
All is comming to the surface soon.
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by clay1999:
ok...stock count? Is this a feasbile thing.... I have nothing to hide with my meger 50000 shares
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
A bag of starburst fruit chews next to my computer while I trade is probably the worst idea I've ever had, but at the same time so good
When I started tradeing it was pop rocks.
Lost a lot of money back then
Of course there were not any computers either
The penny is so much more different than the regular market, it's crazy!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
When I started tradeing it was pop rocks.Lost a lot of money back then
Of course there were not any computers either
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Magoo, if PGHI is your first penny stock, you're one hell of a lucky guy because many lost money to the pennies before really understanding it's dynamics!The penny is so much more different than the regular market, it's crazy!
GLTA!
Tommy
to tell the truth I really do not understand the dynamics of the pennies. The reason that I got involved in PGHI is this thread,
I actuall have bought and sold a couple of other pennies with the suggestions from a friend but was guided entirely by him. I did make a little and then lost a little. The I sat back for about a year and checked several sites and this was the first one which really made a lot of sense to me.
The regular stock I have been involved in since the early seventies. However I do have a broker and leave it up mostly to him with the exception of a couple of my own picks.
So as far as stocks in general I am not an expert and do not pretend to be.
The people such as yourself on this board do have much more knowledge than I by a large margin.
What I do bring is a little more buying leverage as I have made most of my money through my years involved in bussiness.
On thing which I found interesting is that The Public Relations firm which John Flemming has choosen is the same one which handles one of my partners company.
Small World
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Tommyto tell the truth I really do not understand the dynamics of the pennies. The reason that I got involved in PGHI is this thread,
I actuall have bought and sold a couple of other pennies with the suggestions from a friend but was guided entirely by him. I did make a little and then lost a little. The I sat back for about a year and checked several sites and this was the first one which really made a lot of sense to me.
The regular stock I have been involved in since the early seventies. However I do have a broker and leave it up mostly to him with the exception of a couple of my own picks.
So as far as stocks in general I am not an expert and do not pretend to be.
The people such as yourself on this board do have much more knowledge than I by a large margin.
What I do bring is a little more buying leverage as I have made most of my money through my years involved in bussiness.
On thing which I found interesting is that The Public Relations firm which John Flemming has choosen is the same one which handles one of my partners company.
Small World
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Excuse all my typo's I still do not type so it is not my spelling but my two fingers on the keyboard
Of course I have had some losses when I first started trading but I was lucky enough to get out quickly each time.
To be honest PGHI is the first penny that I've been holding and plan on holding for a long time! I usually only flip pennies for good and quick money but what started as a good trading opportunity here became an amazing investing opportunity!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Magoo, I have heard so many bad stories of people losing a lot of money with brokers that I vowed to never let anyone else touch my portfolio!Of course I have had some losses when I first started trading but I was lucky enough to get out quickly each time.
To be honest PGHI is the first penny that I've been holding and plan on holding for a long time! I usually only flip pennies for good and quick money but what started as a good trading opportunity here became an amazing investing opportunity!
GLTA!
I do agree with you about brokers to a certin point. Brokers are good if stocks are not something that you track and follow to the point of spending much time at it. You only have a broker if your attention is elsewhere. Most stocks with brokers are long term especially compaired to the pennies.
I look at the pennies at this point as a learning experience and a gamble. I am not really a gambler but the few times I have gone to Vegas or Reno I kinda figure what I want to loose and if I come home with some of that money then I feel that I am that much ahead.
My partners and I are looking at the PGHI venture sort of the same way.
My plans are that if John Flemming preforms on what he has said is short comming then I will go with a heavier investment into the company. That would be with the PPM or something of that sort.
In any case this is getting exciting
Ron B.
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by jr:
looking back at the charts, i think of how many times in the past couple of months i could have sold some shares and then bought back in order to get some more shares... but its just not worth the risk. not with this stock. because one of these days, this train is going to leave the station and it wont be coming back!
In PGHI's case, that would be .049- We have never traded at these levels and will have very little resistence due to lack of ask overhead, most resistence will be MM shorting, which will be very scarce IMO
EMA's>> as pointed out by Tommy, 5 DAY EMA is .04, very bullish
MACD>> Still looking great, bullish
On Balance Volume>> a measure of Buyers/Sellers, OBV is increasing, bullish
STOKES>> See chart below, at 58, Still a long ways to go- bullish
VOLUME!!!!>> 10 MILLION ON ZERO NEWS- bullish
CLOSE>> HIGHEST CLOSE IN PGHI's HISTORY- shows confidence in the market- bullish
Breakout Imminent
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cabbage22 - thank technical analysis for God
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quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
[b]BOLLINGER BANDS
All Breakouts occur when the stock is traveling up the UPPER bollinger band, and crosses over it. Some may think crossing the upper BB is a sign of a point to sell- THAT IS WRONG- it is extremely BULLISH because it shows a break in a resistence point.In PGHI's case, that would be .049- We have never traded at these levels and will have very little resistence due to lack of ask overhead, most resistence will be MM shorting, which will be very scarce IMO
EMA's>> as pointed out by Tommy, 5 DAY EMA is .04, very bullish
MACD>> Still looking great, bullish
On Balance Volume>> a measure of Buyers/Sellers, OBV is increasing, bullish
STOKES>> See chart below, at 58, Still a long ways to go- bullish
VOLUME!!!!>> 10 MILLION ON ZERO NEWS- bullish
CLOSE>> HIGHEST CLOSE IN PGHI's HISTORY- shows confidence in the market- bullish
Breakout Imminent
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I'm actually starting to understand this stuff
When PGHI breaks out … the MMs will let it run wherever supply and demand takes it for the first big run, then the shakeout of fraidycat longs will begin, and it is my bet the MMs will make that one … very rough … maybe as strong as 40%. That way the MMs can fill their coffers for a sustained run, which will inevitably happen before PGHI PPS will begin to stabilize.
If John Fleming knows his stuff (and I think he does), he will use MM tactics to PGHI shareholder’s advantage. I say that because of two factors: 1) the quicker PGHI moves above $1.00 – the sooner the company could do a Reverse Split and take the PPS above $5.00 – which is where it should be to make the move to a Major Index, preferably the NASDAQ – but the NYSE is not out of the question…!: 2) The higher the PPS, more $$ can be gleaned from the PPM with less numbers of shares…!
Back to lurking…..
jwhite2913
Holding strong is the best way to twart the MM's after the big run, if you're weak then you're gonna pay the price when this nany hits the dollar realm!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by jwhite2913:
For the past 15 trading sessions the MMs have pretty much controlled each session, but they have allowed occasional spikes. This tells me the MMs know they are facing the Symbol Change, but don’t know when to expect it; hence, the MMs are being careful so they don’t get caught naked with short positions. The MMs also know resistance above $0.05 does not exist – I have been watching MM signals very closely for the past week, and the most active is – Trade Sideways – which in essence means, the MMs can keep up and hold favorable inventories without going naked….When PGHI breaks out … the MMs will let it run wherever supply and demand takes it for the first big run, then the shakeout of fraidycat longs will begin, and it is my bet the MMs will make that one … very rough … maybe as strong as 40%. That way the MMs can fill their coffers for a sustained run, which will inevitably happen before PGHI PPS will begin to stabilize.
If John Fleming knows his stuff (and I think he does), he will use MM tactics to PGHI shareholder’s advantage. I say that because of two factors: 1) the quicker PGHI moves above $1.00 – the sooner the company could do a Reverse Split and take the PPS above $5.00 – which is where it should be to make the move to a Major Index, preferably the NASDAQ – but the NYSE is not out of the question…!: 2) The higher the PPS, more $$ can be gleaned from the PPM with less numbers of shares…!
Back to lurking…..
jwhite2913
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
jwhite2913 is a very respectable and knowledgeable trader with a lot of experience (30+ years of trading). I respect him and his opinion very much. Listen to him and you will learn a whole lot!Holding strong is the best way to twart the MM's after the big run, if you're weak then you're gonna pay the price when this nany hits the dollar realm!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by jwhite2913:
For the past 15 trading sessions the MMs have pretty much controlled each session, but they have allowed occasional spikes. This tells me the MMs know they are facing the Symbol Change, but don’t know when to expect it; hence, the MMs are being careful so they don’t get caught naked with short positions. The MMs also know resistance above $0.05 does not exist – I have been watching MM signals very closely for the past week, and the most active is – Trade Sideways – which in essence means, the MMs can keep up and hold favorable inventories without going naked….When PGHI breaks out … the MMs will let it run wherever supply and demand takes it for the first big run, then the shakeout of fraidycat longs will begin, and it is my bet the MMs will make that one … very rough … maybe as strong as 40%. That way the MMs can fill their coffers for a sustained run, which will inevitably happen before PGHI PPS will begin to stabilize.
If John Fleming knows his stuff (and I think he does), he will use MM tactics to PGHI shareholder’s advantage. I say that because of two factors: 1) the quicker PGHI moves above $1.00 – the sooner the company could do a Reverse Split and take the PPS above $5.00 – which is where it should be to make the move to a Major Index, preferably the NASDAQ – but the NYSE is not out of the question…!: 2) The higher the PPS, more $$ can be gleaned from the PPM with less numbers of shares…!
Back to lurking…..
jwhite2913
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
[b]BOLLINGER BANDS
All Breakouts occur when the stock is traveling up the UPPER bollinger band, and crosses over it. Some may think crossing the upper BB is a sign of a point to sell- THAT IS WRONG- it is extremely BULLISH because it shows a break in a resistence point. When prices move outside the bands, a continuation of the current trend can be implied.In PGHI's case, that would be .049- We have never traded at these levels and will have very little resistence due to lack of ask overhead, most resistence will be MM shorting, which will be very scarce IMO
EMA's>> as pointed out by Tommy, 5 DAY EMA is .04, very bullish
MACD>> Still looking great, bullish
On Balance Volume>> a measure of Buyers/Sellers, OBV is increasing, bullish
STOKES>> See chart below, at 58, Still a long ways to go- bullish
VOLUME!!!!>> 10 MILLION ON ZERO NEWS- bullish
CLOSE>> HIGHEST CLOSE IN PGHI's HISTORY- shows confidence in the market- bullish
Breakout Imminent
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quote:
Originally posted by JustMe:
96% BUY!!!!
Composite Indicator
Trend Spotter (TM) Buy
Short Term Indicators
7 Day Average Directional Indicator Buy
10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Buy
20 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
20 Day Bollinger Bands Hold
Short Term Indicators Average: 80% - Buy
20-Day Average Volume - 8120852
Medium Term Indicators
40 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
50 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
50 Day Parabolic Time/Price Buy
Medium Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
50-Day Average Volume - 13549245
Long Term Indicators
60 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
100 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
Long Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
100-Day Average Volume - 8036716
Overall Average: 96% - Buy
Price Support Pivot Point Resistance
0.04 0.04 0.04 0.05
CANDLESTICK CHARTING PATTERNS
ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN OCCURING
BREAKOUT IMMINENT
(Link Provided)
Let's talk about the ASCENDING TRIANGLE... This pattern is occuring here and will eventually lead to our BREAKOUT...
On the ascending triangle, the horizontal line represents overhead supply that prevents the security from moving past a certain level. It is as if a large sell order has been placed at this level and it is taking a number of weeks or months to execute, thus preventing the price from rising further. Even though the price cannot rise past this level, the reaction lows continue to rise. It is these higher lows that indicate increased buying pressure and give the ascending triangle its bullish bias. http://stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis/triangle-Ascending.html
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
ASCENDING TRIANGLE AT PGHI ....
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
IDNW recently went through a symbol change, and look at the impact it had on the stock's performance as the shorts were forced to buy back. The symbol is now GLBT, and is trading around .23I wonder what PGHI's new symbol will be...maybe GMFX?
quote:
Originally posted by pbwizard:
New Banner just given to me so I can add it to my websites.
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Just wondering if anyone knows what kind of inventory VeeGeeZ carries on each game title. I've noticed a decline in the % of titles and new releases available. I would normally say statistically this is a good thing but if the inventory is not high enough it could lead to unsatisfied customers, and I don't think any of us wants to see that.
Also I've heard Mach talk about marketing. About the best marketing I can think of right now for this time of year would be to have a really cool commercial for the Superbowl that would get the attention of Millions of people all in just 30 seconds.
Anyway everythings looking good I've got my tray put away, seat in the upright position and I'm ready for take off.
GLTA
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woody
I am off to work but will try to pick up some more shares today.
If we do get up to .05 I am going in very heavy and try to give us a bit more of a push past the MM's
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Good luck to all today.I am off to work but will try to pick up some more shares today.
If we do get up to .05 I am going in very heavy and try to give us a bit more of a push past the MM's
sorry to have been out of the loop here for the last several days. this is a great stock and a great thread. i found out yesterday that my portfolio can have mid 5 digit days on auto pilot and with me out catching sushi.
i do not intend to sell one share of this until i see the business plan evolve into a working company. it is great to be in at the base building phase of something with this much potential. i made 500% on ibzt in the last 2 weeks and am not nearly as optimistic and excited about it's future as i am about pghi. good luck to all of the strong longs here.
uncle milty
quote:
Originally posted by stewartfan:
Hello all, GREAT thread with informitive charts, Question. How long after the announcment of a symbol change by the co. does it normally take before it trades under the new symbol? TIA
quote:
Originally posted by Degs:
a 4 point spread on bid/ask with little volume, what do you think?
quote:
Originally posted by kcbudman:
Just got another 55K at .04 The 420 shares was mine on a partial fill. Took about a half hour to fill all 55K.
KC posted:
"Just got another 55K at .04 The 420 shares was mine on a partial fill. Took about a half hour to fill all 55K."
JR posted:
i saw a 400 sale go through a few minutes ago (mm signal to trade sidewayz)
Don't really know the accuracy of the MM signaling via level II. I don't doubt that it happens, just don't know if the matrix people are referencing is accurate. The above post signifies this. -Marty
The MM hold the spread wide open, in hopes of catching sellers at .04, knowing not many people will buy at .044 without bid support.
There ARE bids above .04, probably all the way up to .043, but the MM will not display them until the order flow is too large.
At some point today, the MM will up the bid to .041, and the real bidding will unfold.
Does anyone else know what Im talking about?
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
watching ibzt is fun!
quote:
Originally posted by kcbudman:
If you guys are in IBZT, be careful and dump before it tanks, remember IVOC anyone?
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
watching ibzt is fun!
We've had a few trades at the ask since about 11:00, but no sustained pressure. With any pressure, the bid would pop right up. They have to know the name/symbol change is coming. I think they are trying to hold it down and collect shares while they can.
I'm amazed by what they did squeeze out of people today at .039 and .04. Every time I think they won't get anymore, another big sell will pop up. Crazy!
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
We saw this type of manipulation one of the other trading days.The MM hold the spread wide open, in hopes of catching sellers at .04, knowing not many people will buy at .044 without bid support.
There ARE bids above .04, probably all the way up to .043, but the MM will not display them until the order flow is too large.
At some point today, the MM will up the bid to .041, and the real bidding will unfold.
Does anyone else know what Im talking about?
SCHB and BAMM on the bid- no worries, NITE isnt going to force this down, and WIEN will follow NITE
Those .041's will be gone before I get back with my coffee
quote:
Originally posted by jwhite2913:
For the past 15 trading sessions the MMs have pretty much controlled each session, but they have allowed occasional spikes. This tells me the MMs know they are facing the Symbol Change, but don’t know when to expect it; hence, the MMs are being careful so they don’t get caught naked with short positions. The MMs also know resistance above $0.05 does not exist – I have been watching MM signals very closely for the past week, and the most active is – Trade Sideways – which in essence means, the MMs can keep up and hold favorable inventories without going naked….When PGHI breaks out … the MMs will let it run wherever supply and demand takes it for the first big run, then the shakeout of fraidycat longs will begin, and it is my bet the MMs will make that one … very rough … maybe as strong as 40%. That way the MMs can fill their coffers for a sustained run, which will inevitably happen before PGHI PPS will begin to stabilize.
If John Fleming knows his stuff (and I think he does), he will use MM tactics to PGHI shareholder’s advantage. I say that because of two factors: 1) the quicker PGHI moves above $1.00 – the sooner the company could do a Reverse Split and take the PPS above $5.00 – which is where it should be to make the move to a Major Index, preferably the NASDAQ – but the NYSE is not out of the question…!: 2) The higher the PPS, more $$ can be gleaned from the PPM with less numbers of shares…!
Back to lurking…..
jwhite2913
quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
What will a reverse split do to our total share value?
Let's say the PPS is $1 with 100M shares, then a 1:5 split would make it $5 with 20M shares. It's simple math!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
What will a reverse split do to our total share value?
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
wow a lot of buying volume, im back, and look, no more .041
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
i have been searching online for competitors in the online video game rentals industry and found a couple, but i found out that veegeez is a sponsored link on google.com and if you search for "online video game rentals" veegeez is the first in line. The prices at all differnt websites are basically the same give or take a dollar or two, but what i found to be inviting to new members is a refferal program. Does veegeez have a customer refferal incentive program? Are there other publicly traded game rental websites?
Veegeez is the only publically traded video game rental company which is part of the reason why I love this stock (no competition in the stock market for those investors seeking to capitalize on the video game/netflix craze). The only possible publically traded company that could be called competition would be blockbuster (they have a slightly comparable program, but it offers far less than what is offered by veegeez)
Josh
quote:
Originally posted by chancey:
Do the markets close early tomorrow, and if so Why?
Thanks
Strong finish this week then off to the races next week....looking good
Would love to close anywhere above .043 today to keep the charts looking good.
Barely finished my last message and Schwab jumped the bid to .041. Now some buys coming in at .042.
The news is coming....just a waiting game at this point.
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Hello everyone. Just back from Wyoming...well half way atleast...one more flight to catch. What a trip...I got stuck in a church last night. They closed the roads and everyone was forced off the highways....all the motels were filled up...so they opened up the school and the churches. An experience to remember. Everything looks good here. More then 10 million on no news yesterday...I am getting excited for the news to finally come out....next week I am guessing....Strong finish this week then off to the races next week....looking good
quote:
Originally posted by kcbudman:
No, only the bond market closes early tomorrow 12-31-03. Market is closed on 1-1-04.
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Bid support building at .04. Now three MM's there. Maybe a sign that a little movement is coming?Would love to close anywhere above .043 today to keep the charts looking good.
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
I am looking to pick up another 20-50k today or tomorrow, I have the patience to wait for a .04 ask, but I might just have to take a .042 or higher depending
Keep strong hands and buy out the weak ones
Good luck with all your fills
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
I have had some fills today. Am going to up my bid to .042Keep strong hands and buy out the weak ones
Good luck with all your fills
The MM's are very happy to take your shares at this level, but they won't sell you many here!
PSU
If we all hold very tight, we can push the PPS way higher when the new site and name change hit.
GLTA!
I love it when the MM's have to move up their price
Possible that he is regrouping and bidding up?
Its nice to see the MM's get manipulated for a change............
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Just got some more.I love it when the MM's have to move up their price
GLTA
They blew past me.
Now I am getting serious
Lets see how much they want to pay for the weak hands
That's ok but now your shares are mine so it will all worked out for everyone in the end
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Each day that the MM's are forcing the trading in the .04's level means that the spring at that level is winding up stronger and stronger. When they cut it loose after the name change and new site, we'll be in for a good treat!
Hold strong and you will be greatly rewarded
I don't want your shares
I am helping to knock the MM's around today so hold strong because we are all doing this together
Just look at
IBZT, CESY, IBII, AFRR, ATNG, CYTP, and worst- GWDL
"Mel Gibson is yelling "hold....hold....hold..."
- Marty
4,841,897 volume on such a manipulated day- that very impressive
I would like to know what you guys think about the current sub numbers that PGHI has. I think its north of 10,000 subs, what you guys think?????????/
quote:
Originally posted by joelotto:
some of you guys know me from the RB board. I've been away from the computer for almost 2 weeks and very happy to see that we are back into the .04-.05 area.I would like to know what you guys think about the current sub numbers that PGHI has. I think its north of 10,000 subs, what you guys think?????????/
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Good day so far everyoneHold strong and you will be greatly rewarded
I don't want your shares
I am helping to knock the MM's around today so hold strong because we are all doing this together
quote:
In response to Tommy, I agree completely. When I began investing on my own several years ago, one of the first things i learned was that the longer a stock stays flat, the larger the breakout is when it does occur. Usually, the reason for this is that during flat periods, there is major accumulation and consolidation going on. Therefore, when the break out occurs, the new buyers have fewer sellers to buy from, causing a large imbalance between the number of buyers and the number sellers.
He he, if that's the case CMKM should get to about a dollar! Merry Christmas indeed...
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
This will be a good size order and let's see if the MM's are going to give up or up the price.
Good luck to everyone involved
"There will come a time when all longs give up their shares and sell off, but that time is not now, this time we fight!"
GLTA!
"I would like to know what you guys think about the current sub numbers that PGHI has. I think its north of 10,000 subs, what you guys think?????????"
This would be great, BUT this number of 10,000 subs it way too far off. I would not be surprised if it was only between 400-500 subs and this is being generous.
How do I come to the conclusion, taking the number of subs that was given on the PPM information and adding to that. Understanding nothing has changed with the site since Point Group had acquired it. Nothing! On the back end, inventory advertisement - yes, but nothing physically has been done.
I would not hold my breath on subscriber numbers climbing thru the roof. I do believe if this new site is appealing to the video game shopper....we have a winner and everything will fall in place there after, including subscribers. Thus we will see the results that everyone is banking on. If we don't, I am outa this for the long term.
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Originally posted by m_h13021:
Response to Joelotto:"I would like to know what you guys think about the current sub numbers that PGHI has. I think its north of 10,000 subs, what you guys think?????????"
This would be great, BUT this number of 10,000 subs it way too far off. I would not be surprised if it was only between 400-500 subs and this is being generous.
How do I come to the conclusion, taking the number of subs that was given on the PPM information and adding to that. Understanding nothing has changed with the site since Point Group had acquired it. Nothing! On the back end, inventory advertisement - yes, but nothing physically has been done.
I would not hold my breath on subscriber numbers climbing thru the roof. I do believe if this new site is appealing to the video game shopper....we have a winner and everything will fall in place there after, including subscribers. Thus we will see the results that everyone is banking on. If we don't, I am outa this for the long term.
quote:
Originally posted by scs005:
I finally ended up buying 100K shares , I was bit nervous went it dropped to 0.039.
I bought them at 0.041. Is it a good buy.
Yes, after the release of the name change and new website you will have forgotten about the $180 difference. I am sure you will have the agreement of others on this thread. - Marty
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Yes, after the release of the name change and new website you will have forgotten about the $180 difference. I am sure you will have the agreement of others on this thread. - Marty
I asked John and he said that the growth was 25% in november, and increasing.
I would say they had 555 subscribers when PGHI took them over. Count from there yourself...
pres
Here are the things that I would love to see after the name change and new site:
1) Intensive marketing and advertising on magazines, game sites, and colleges
2) TV appeareances since we're the first and only public video game rental company
GLTA!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
we can all help raise the number of suscribers by just going into gaming rooms and boards and talkin about veegeez.com
the hit counter rises drastically after a few posts in various game rooms. for a list of the most frequented gaming boards visit
http://www.big-boards.com/highlight/327/
this might help alot
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
stockguy04, a lot of us are just waiting for the new site before doing that because the current site is so ugly that it wouldn't do any good to advertise now!GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
you got a good point... is there anywhere i can find out who is taking care of advertising and by what means are they going to do it.. or is that on the board and if so do u know wut page?
Right now they only have search engine placements and they have a banner on Gamespot.com. You won't see the banner all the time because it's part of a rotation.
If you make a search for "video games rental" on any search engine you will see that Veegeez is a paid sponsor.
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
you got a good point... is there anywhere i can find out who is taking care of advertising and by what means are they going to do it.. or is that on the board and if so do u know wut page?
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Once the new site comes out, I am writing to TechTv- their show XPLAY, as well as CNBC to do a story on the company- and I urge everyone else to do the same. We should also encourage Fleming to get interviewed by someone during a weekday trading day- will give us a short term pop as well as long term interest
Everytime I choose stocks, either I don't buy or if bought, they go down.
This time , I don't want to be miss.
Thanks-
SCS
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
we can all help raise the number of suscribers by just going into gaming rooms and boards and talkin about veegeez.com
the hit counter rises drastically after a few posts in various game rooms. for a list of the most frequented gaming boards visit
http://www.big-boards.com/highlight/327/
this might help alot
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by scs005:
When do we expect name change or next PR , any speculation abt the dates.Everytime I choose stocks, either I don't buy or if bought, they go down.
This time , I don't want to be miss.
Thanks-
SCS
If PGHI shows that it is accomplishing those things over the next 6 months, this stock will really take off ... The subscription numbers will follow as a natural result of these steps.
Josh.
Week of Dec 29th (2003) to Jan 2nd (2004): PGHI files Definitive 14c to finalize name change to GamezNFlix inc.
Monday Jan 5th (2004): New website goes online late that night
Tuesday Jan 6th (2004): PR announcing official name change and new website
2 weeks later: Ticker change for new company name
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
scs005, read the thread from page 30 and up, you'll find all the answers to your questions.GLTA!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by scs005:
Quick review of the post on page 30
Week of Dec 29th (2003) to Jan 2nd (2004): PGHI files Definitive 14c to finalize name change to GamezNFlix inc.Monday Jan 5th (2004): New website goes online late that night
Tuesday Jan 6th (2004): PR announcing official name change and new website
2 weeks later: Ticker change for new company name
GLTA!
I will post what I believe is happening in a few hours, but I would like to see others here do some TA to see what your point of view is!
The stokes are nearing 80 and will hopefully maintain that high for longer than before.
MACD is still strong.
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Before I post anything about the technicals, I want to give people here a chance to mention them- I really want to see how much everyone here has learned about the technical indicators and see if I can learn something from you. A hint- there is a common pattern unfolding.I will post what I believe is happening in a few hours, but I would like to see others here do some TA to see what your point of view is!
This is a great idea. I had mentioned this on RB before. If they(TechTV)like VG's not only will they profile it, they will continuous recommend it, for the topic of game rental.
The key thing is "if" they like it.
If VG's becomes recommended, there is their National Television exposure. People respond to their recommendations like they are the "almighty". Just look at TechTV's love of the brand TIVO. - Marty
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Before I post anything about the technicals, I want to give people here a chance to mention them- I really want to see how much everyone here has learned about the technical indicators and see if I can learn something from you. A hint- there is a common pattern unfolding.I will post what I believe is happening in a few hours, but I would like to see others here do some TA to see what your point of view is!
In the last three months, the 5 day EMA reached the Upper Bollinger Band twice where each time it did, the stock price ran and reached a new high: first from about .015 to .035 and the next time from about .03 to almost .05. Currently the 5 day EMA is approaching the Upper Bollinger Band again where this time I would expect a run to .06 after they meet. Of course the expected news releases could have a more significant effect on the next new high.
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Before I post anything about the technicals, I want to give people here a chance to mention them- I really want to see how much everyone here has learned about the technical indicators and see if I can learn something from you. A hint- there is a common pattern unfolding.I will post what I believe is happening in a few hours, but I would like to see others here do some TA to see what your point of view is!
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quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Before I post anything about the technicals, I want to give people here a chance to mention them- I really want to see how much everyone here has learned about the technical indicators and see if I can learn something from you. A hint- there is a common pattern unfolding.I will post what I believe is happening in a few hours, but I would like to see others here do some TA to see what your point of view is!
I'll give it a try
I buy more shares I make more money
Magoo thats accounting! haha
I made good money in 2003, now it's time to pay uncle Sam!
Thanks!
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Wow, there are more techies here than I thought, everything you guys posted is right on- tommy nice ema analysisMagoo thats accounting! haha
Sorry it's the only thing I know
Suggestion, get the .txt file from ameritrade (assuming thats what you use) and open it up with Excel. You will have to specify how to seperate the data points (with commas) and it will put them into rows for you. This is a good base to start off. As far as the forms go, the IRS website has all the info you need, but I'm sure many here will be willing to help when the time comes
1.)Do the MM's have an unlimited amount of cash to purchase shares/or a set allowance?
2.)And since the shares aren't all bought up (I assume) do they really need MINE? Can't they just buy them from PGHI until all is sold out?
Thanks 4 your knowledge!
1) Their funds are limited, but in the billions
2) You need to understand The difference between Authorized shares, Issued/Outstanding Shares, and the Public Float
Authorized Shares are the total number of shares that the company is allowed to issue in total ( Most of these remain unissued at the moment, in ohterwords they dont exist right now )
Issued Shares are all the shares that are "out and about" so to say. Of these, the company CEO's and employees own some, consultants own some, and the public shareholders own some.
"The Float" are the shares that we watch trade every day. These represent about 43% of the Issued shares, and about 25-30% of the Authorized shares- fuzzy math.
The MM's cannot buy from the company unless they do a PPM, where they would have to hold the shares for 1 year
[This message has been edited by cabbage22 (edited December 30, 2003).]
And just in the billion$? Must be nice to have such problems
remember that the boys from VG's are now getting paid as consultants via PGHI shares. So, as another poster has pointed out there will always be selling to coincide with buying. ALWAYS. - Marty
I may be a newbie at investing on my own but if you plan on doing your own taxes I would highly recommend TAX ACT software from Second Story Software CO. These people are the same people that originally wrote the Turbo Tax software before there Company was bought out software sold and the all lost there jobs. I know this because it all happened here in my home town and everyone around here has been using it for a couple years now. It is much more user freindly than TT it will also answer almost any questions you have. Hope this helps
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Guys, 2003 was my first trading/investing year and I need to file taxes for my 2003 trading activity for the first time. Can you guys recommend me a good site, service, or any tip to make this process easier? I don't even know where to start!I made good money in 2003, now it's time to pay uncle Sam!
Thanks!
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quote:
Originally posted by woody:
Tommy,I may be a newbie at investing on my own but if you plan on doing your own taxes I would highly recommend TAX ACT software from Second Story Software CO. These people are the same people that originally wrote the Turbo Tax software before there Company was bought out software sold and the all lost there jobs. I know this because it all happened here in my home town and everyone around here has been using it for a couple years now. It is much more user freindly than TT it will also answer almost any questions you have. Hope this helps
This is from "proverbial" horse's mouth. I have referenced it quite a bit over the years and have found it very helpful if you are doing your own filing. - Marty
Current 2003 versionhttp://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p544.pdf
[This message has been edited by m_h13021 (edited December 30, 2003).]
It almost feels like the first time I did a one handed unhook of a bra at a basement party in the 7th grade!
It took so long to get it right that I thought I would explode but when I finally did it, I looked straight ahead and forgot about how hard it was to finally get there.
Sorry if I offended anybody with the analogy but I thought most could relate.
HAVE PATIENCE.....There is a clear pattern that has been happening for the past weeks
and I believe it will end on January 2,2004. The big money traders have one more day to rid themselves of tax losses.The same people that need the tax losses are the ones that are making the big money.They are concentrating more on their losses which is a prudent thing to do, then buying at this juncture.So I believe we are not attracting that business right now.This should change drasitcally on January 2, 2004, conversely people that are trading for a quick profit are not going to sell so close to the end of the year when they can sell on Friday and not pay taxes on it in 2003.So I believe Friday will be the last time we will see 0.049.Once we reach January 5th the MM's will not be able to hold this down because this stock actually is unique in penny land,it has investors behind it.Do not lose sight of what you are holding and stay long hold your shares and you will not even think about your entry point.I believe the week of January 5,2004 will justify what the charts are saying.Right now I think Fleming is vacationing right in front of his new website with a fine tooth comb and a big smile on his face. JUST MY THOUGHTS!
TRSTURGUT-18
quote:
Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
PATIENCE!!!!!DON'T SELL!!!!It almost feels like the first time I did a one handed unhook of a bra at a basement party in the 7th grade!
It took so long to get it right that I thought I would explode but when I finally did it, I looked straight ahead and forgot about how hard it was to finally get there.
Sorry if I offended anybody with the analogy but I thought most could relate.
HAVE PATIENCE.....There is a clear pattern that has been happening for the past weeks
and I believe it will end on January 2,2004. The big money traders have one more day to rid themselves of tax losses.The same people that need the tax losses are the ones that are making the big money.They are concentrating more on their losses which is a prudent thing to do, then buying at this juncture.So I believe we are not attracting that business right now.This should change drasitcally on January 2, 2004, conversely people that are trading for a quick profit are not going to sell so close to the end of the year when they can sell on Friday and not pay taxes on it in 2003.So I believe Friday will be the last time we will see 0.049.Once we reach January 5th the MM's will not be able to hold this down because this stock actually is unique in penny land,it has investors behind it.Do not lose sight of what you are holding and stay long hold your shares and you will not even think about your entry point.I believe the week of January 5,2004 will justify what the charts are saying.Right now I think Fleming is vacationing right in front of his new website with a fine tooth comb and a big smile on his face. JUST MY THOUGHTS!TRSTURGUT-18
I do have to agree with your thoughts on the timming of events and some of the reasons that things are really going to start moving after the 5th.
I was playing a game of cat amd mouse with the MM's today. Everytime I would raise my bid on a large share take I was immediatly outbid by the MM's and believe that they were after the shares I could have purchased. This happened more than twice today which in part helped the upward move away from the lows. I was able to get a good amount of shares on partical fills before they could react fast enough.
The MM's are trying their best to buy your shares down. They are afraid that they have to cover their shorts when we start moving so it is a timming game. They also want to load up at the lowest price they can. These companies make as a hugh amount if they can save 1/10 of a cent on their purchases.
I was able to buy a good amount of shares today. I believe that I purchased away from the day traders or others selling part of their shares to gain profits.
I am in for the long run and do have some more cash to get a some more shares. I will purchase not at the lowest price but at a price to help keep the MM's scratching their heads
A couple of 1/10 of a cent will not make much of a difference when our price starts moving.
Don't be caught up too much trying to save 1/10
Good Luck to everyone holding PGHI for the long run
This is a pattern which is typical of very bullish stocks, and I believe PGHI is forming these very patterns. Please forgive the crude lines and text-
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I am not going to type all this out, VRTrader.com has a very good explaination which I will post here, and encourage all of you to read in detail. I will input PGHI specifics into the explaination in bold
One of the most reliable of all chart pattern formations in financial trading is the venerable "Cup & Handle". This classic signal is clearly seen as the side-view profile of a teacup with handle off to it's right.
Such a pattern is commonly formed when a market rallies to recent highs and then corrects 33 - 50%. Such corrections are normal for markets that have advanced considerably over the recent past.
Volume should decrease as the correction ends, signaling a lack of further downside pressure. Prices then advance near or back to the area of the previous high. This completes the profile of a cup from lip to lip as viewed from its side.
Around this time we look for a second pullback in price of 5 - 30% the size of this cup. The first handle formed for PGHI was in the beginning of December Greater declines than that signal the pattern has likely been nullified. Once the mini-correction stalls, prices continue to rise once again towards the previous mark.
Former price highs and recent price highs near each other form the cup. A slight decline and advance to both previous highs forms a handle as we draw a trend line across the tops. Such patterns become second nature to spot with a bit of practice.
This action occurs due to remaining buyers who rode the market from it's previous high to the bottom now looking to exit near breakeven. We assume the formation of the actual handle is proof that all weak hands who wanted out have sold and new buying will lead to further highs.
Formations that occur on daily charts over a few weeks time tend to have deeper cups and sharper handles. This due to compression of price action in a relatively brief period. Similar formations on weekly charts may appear more like a saucer than an actual cup. Such patterns create shallow bowls and longer handles but the results are the same: higher prices if the pattern completes.
Volume plays a big role for interpreting cup & handle patterns. We like to see volume increase as prices rise and decrease on any pull back. This proves buying strength is now the bias.
For completion of the pattern, price action needs to break out above the handle on higher-than-normal volume. Such bullish behavior proves selling is out of the way and new price highs are probable.This was the case with PGHI on the first cup, a breakout was underway and new highs were reached. The S-8 released that day scared many investors on the fear of dilution- not realizing that the shares are authorized, not issued, and thwarted the breakout into a new cup formation.
More information on Cup and Handle formations and Technical Analysis can be found on VRTrader.com http://www.vrtrader.com/vr_free/trading101/analysis.asp
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cabbage22 - thank technical analysis for God
I agree with you 100%. As you put it in your post, when this gets moving you will not be worrying about tenth of a cent. And if it starts moving without the amount of shares you wished you(another user) had, then you will be worrying!
Good luck to all those who are on the sidelines watching and waiting to get in.
This is not a hype, this is for real and if you have been reading all the posts on this thread, PGHI is going to move and when it does it is going to move fast. - Marty
GL
I like you am not a chart reader it is not what I do well.I will make you a deal if you get me chart reading lessons I will in return get you typing lessons.I also do not look for the cheapest price but look for a price that will make me comfortable.I have made purchases at the end of the day at a higher price to keep the a stock at a certain level.A small price to pay in the long run.Hope your trip to Kentucky goes well.Let me know if the man has a good handshake , looks you square in the eye , and if his hands have seen some hard labor.
TRSTURGUT-18
Thank you for the charts and the effort that goes with it.It is greatly appreciated.
It's time for bed.....6AM will be here before I know it!
TRSTURGUT-18
quote:
Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
MAGOO,I like you am not a chart reader it is not what I do well.I will make you a deal if you get me chart reading lessons I will in return get you typing lessons.I also do not look for the cheapest price but look for a price that will make me comfortable.I have made purchases at the end of the day at a higher price to keep the a stock at a certain level.A small price to pay in the long run.Hope your trip to Kentucky goes well.Let me know if the man has a good handshake , looks you square in the eye , and if his hands have seen some hard labor.
TRSTURGUT-18
Thanks for mthe kind words about my typing skills. Guess when you don't type very often my two finger posts sometimes find the wrong key.
I am trying to meet up with John Flemming on my east coast trip. If the timming dose not work out with him then I will make a special trip when he is available. Guess I will find out about that after he gets back off vacation.
In any case good to be part of our group which seems to be growing day by day.
Thanks
I'm a newbie here. That applies to this stock and investing in general. First of all, I want to thank everyone on this board and even the RB board (it seems to be cleaning up again)for tons of info that has reduced my learning curve dramatically. I also wanted to disclose that I own about 180K shares of PGHI accumulated from .026 - .04 Every time I sell other stocks I get excited and buy more PGHI!
This company really looks great. I mean with the great management they have I don't see how it can fail. As long as the new site looks good. And I would assume JF knows that as well. Hopefully, he will follow the example Netflix has set and create a easy to use, simple but attractive site.
Right now the Veegeez site has too much going on and it's too bleak. And what's the deal with the hologram on the bottom right of the home page. That's one thing that really confuses me. I know that the designer is working hard on the new site but how hard would it be to fix that big zit on the face?!?! I think it looks bad and unprofessional. Who wants to subscribe to a company when their site has errors, much less looks bad.
Anyway, I just had to get that off my chest. Sorry for posting a novel.
In summary, the company looks great overall and appears to be a can't miss investment. I'm holding very long for $10+
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Lance
Keep it up!
I wish this board had a print option for each individual post.
So I suppose we will be having many tea parties in the future @ the PGHI tea shop!
quote:
Originally posted by raven76:
Hi,
I couldn't watch trading today, so I missed the level II activity..( maybe I didn't miss so much)
What I'd like to ask is why they can't bring the price down...(less then .04) We just saw high .02's two weeks ago..Why don't they bring the price down, and scare people??
They don't, because they can't!!!There are so many people waiting here to buy more if it drops...And there aren't available shares to be sold at these levels!!!!Demand exceeds supply dramatically when the price drops below .035..Since there isn't any news yet, they are trying to take advantage of it..Today they managed to get 500K @ .04..Good for them..Hang in there crew...Our time will come!!GL
Raven,
Thank you for answering one of the questions that has been burning inside me for the last few days. Why haven't they brought this stock down below .039 to shake out the weak hands?
Clearly we can see that this stock has attracted major attention. This Allstocks thread is HUGE.. It stands out like a skyscraper next to a bunch of rowhouses. If this were all hype, I'd expect the MM's would love an opportunity to scare off the weak hands who have opted to jump on the bandwagon.
Trusturgut also addressed the year end / tax loss issue quite articulately. I agree that there would be many who might love to jump on this puppy after the new year begins with money from 04' stock sales.
However you slice it, this stock looks very promising.
GLTA!
FlyWolf
If you want to print an individual post then highlight that post, go to file, print and select the "Selection" radio button.
If your printer does not support that option then highlght the post, copy it and paste it into Notepad, then print it from there.
Hope that helps!
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Lance
COOLORANGE, I should have said that if you copy and paste it into Notepad you'll only get text and not the graphs. If you want to get everything then paste it into Word.
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quote:
Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Thanks, Lance!!! I think I can make a decent book with some of the posts here.
No problem. It's sort of what I do. The least I can do is give you all computer advice for all the DD I get here.
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Lance
It was one of the 2 sponsored sites that I found (VeeGeez being the other) when I searched for "Video Game Rentals." It was actually above VeeGeez. They only charge $15 per month and their site looks nice.
I hope the new GamezNFlix site is out soona and looks as good if not better. Then it's time to advertise, advertise, advertise!!!
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)No offence )
I love this board and especially the thread and wish everybody happy new year!!
Good Luck!!!!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Thanks, Lance!!! I think I can make a decent book with some of the posts here.
Thanks to those who replied to my tax question earlier.
Now let me calculate how much tax I would need to pay for a profit of $5M with PGHI in 2004! LOL
GLTA!
~alex
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by aawhite12:
Question: Please forgive me for asking such an elmentry quetion....I am new and was just wondering What happens to our shares in PGHI when the name change occurs?...please explain the process. Thanks for any help o this inquery.~alex
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
aawhite12, your PGHI shares will magically be under the new trading symbol. For example when PGHI used to be Syconet (I don't remember the symbol for them), shareholders of Syconet suddenly saw their shares being renamed PGHI overnight. There's nothing to do from your part, it's your broker's job!thanx tommy...~alex
GLTA!
Thanks,
Greg.
I personally am going to be buying this back up the scale if it takes much of a drop. I would like to purchase an amount that the MM's will not let me do it in one purchase.
One thing to remember, we have had a few days where the high was tested, and we pushed back down around .037 or .039, so the weak hands are likely to have gotten out already, forming a "flat handle"
There is so much buying interest right now that the weak hands cant put a dent in the price, thats my opinion. A dip in the price to .037 is possible though.
quote:
Originally posted by firmbatch:
Cabbage,
The two previous posts are talking about a dip coming. Please correct me if I am wrong but if the dip does come, wouldn't it complete the second cup and handle? I was looking at the charts but couldn't discern the handle on the smaller cup.Thanks,
Greg.
Good Luck to all today and I hope that everyone get's the shares they want.,
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
MM head fake
This claim is only valid if the individual buys back within 30 days and still claims a loss? Correct? -
[This message has been edited by m_h13021 (edited December 31, 2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
"IS ILLEGAL!!!!" post by cabbage22This claim is only vailid if the indivdual buys back within 30 days and still claims a loss? Correct? -
I just picked up 45000 more shares (210000 total now at .037 avg and long). I put my order in at .04 while the ask was .042 and 25 minutes later it filled then the ask quickly jumped right back to .042. It appears that's it for me now. I wish I could buy more at this level because I'm confident that when the news is released about the name change and new website combined with the new year we will see a good boost. GLTA!
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Yes firm, the handle is formed when the weak hands that bought in around .045 a few weeks ago sell here for break even. Once the weak hands sell, the price goes back up to the high and the handle is formed.One thing to remember, we have had a few days where the high was tested, and we pushed back down around .037 or .039, so the weak hands are likely to have gotten out already, forming a "flat handle"
There is so much buying interest right now that the weak hands cant put a dent in the price, thats my opinion. A dip in the price to .037 is possible though.
quote:
Originally posted by SilverStreak:
Is this a joke? I've never heard of that? I don't plan on selling, but that sounds crazy?
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Its ok to sell for gains and buy back, uncle same loves getting more tax revenue
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Originally posted by SilverStreak:
That makes sense, I appologize if I sounded rude cabbage, didn't mean too! I'm new to trading, really got into it more so early this year, so I'm still learning. I had a cpa figure my taxes last year, so you can see where I'm coming from. Again, I appologize if I sounded rude, I was just curious. As always, thanks for all the info!
And what is this news I hear about a PR on Friday.....just an assumption or did I miss something?
Im holding out for my last entry 20-50k, never know how much they'll shake it!
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
good question...where is MACH?And what is this news I hear about a PR on Friday.....just an assumption or did I miss something?
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Its ok to sell for gains and buy back, uncle same loves getting more tax revenue
So I'm happy to see that we've been trading sideways at the 0.04 level for a few days now, it means the the next run up should be at least to 0.10 by way of extrapolation.
GLTA!
In 30 minutes I am going to call their bluff
In 30 minutes I am going to call their bluff
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Buy what you can now everyoneIn 30 minutes I am going to call their bluff
I just tried 0.0402 and it got filled within 5 minutes. 0.03901 didn't go for two days, although the lowest of the day were at 0.039.
Good article on this topic of taxing foreign investors. Check it out, it is sided on the foreign investors. -
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,106884,00.html
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Yes firm, the handle is formed when the weak hands that bought in around .045 a few weeks ago sell here for break even. Once the weak hands sell, the price goes back up to the high and the handle is formed.One thing to remember, we have had a few days where the high was tested, and we pushed back down around .037 or .039, so the weak hands are likely to have gotten out already, forming a "flat handle"
There is so much buying interest right now that the weak hands cant put a dent in the price, thats my opinion. A dip in the price to .037 is possible though.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
I remember when PGHI was trading sideways at the 0.02 level for 3 weeks and then it ran up to almost 0.05 which is +150%So I'm happy to see that we've been trading sideways at the 0.04 level for a few days now, it means the the next run up should be at least to 0.10 by way of extrapolation.
GLTA!
I wish I have had this sooner. You cannot lose with the free trial. I opted to buy in because the trial only allows 25 transactions. Kind of useless, but it did its job I subscribed - $49 for the year.
Thanks to the original poster, and to you tommy for having me take a second look. Next time put out a referral email to give some credit to yourself. - Marty
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
I would advise everyone to buy in now if they like.In 30 minutes I am going to call their bluff
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Looks like Magoo has the MM's on the run again! Bid/ask jumped to .04x.042.
Only have had a partical fill and they are keeping me out at this time
If they drop the price I will adjust accordingly
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
I have a bid in for one million shares at .042Only have had a partical fill and they are keeping me out at this time
If they drop the price I will adjust accordingly
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
I have a bid in for one million shares at .042Only have had a partical fill and they are keeping me out at this time
If they drop the price I will adjust accordingly
quote:
Originally posted by Livios:
I just tried 0.0402 and it got filled within 5 minutes. 0.03901 didn't go for two days, although the lowest of the day were at 0.039.
Glad that you got in. I don't want to keep anyone from gettingn their shares but I am not going to let the MM' back us down to far
GL
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
They could be trying to line up the shares for you so the price wont move, smaller orders should get it filled, but will move the price
That order should definitely hold them in place Magoo....or chase them up!
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
I have a bid in for one million shares at .042Only have had a partical fill and they are keeping me out at this time
If they drop the price I will adjust accordingly
[This message has been edited by PSU90 (edited December 31, 2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by raven76:
As long as it's a limit .042, the price won't move..They will just fill with what they have @ .042..GL
I will hold on my offer for a while then release it. This afternoon I will check it again and then try to make them finish without us looseing ground today
quote:
Originally posted by raven76:
Magoo,
are you sure that your bid is .042?
Maybe it's .041..
GL
Your right my mistake it was .041
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
I will hold on my offer for a while then release it. This afternoon I will check it again and then try to make them finish without us looseing ground today
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Livios:
[b] I just tried 0.0402 and it got filled within 5 minutes. 0.03901 didn't go for two days, although the lowest of the day were at 0.039.
Glad that you got in. I don't want to keep anyone from gettingn their shares but I am not going to let the MM' back us down to far
[/B][/QUOTE]
They don't want to give you that many shares at .042 Magoo!
GL
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Ok...Schwab just backed from .042 to .045 on the ask. Only Nite remains at .042. Then there are three MM's at .045 (Schwab, CRWN, and GVRC).They don't want to give you that many shares at .042 Magoo!
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Originally posted by raven76:
PSU not .042,it's .041..
If it were .042, we wouldn't see any MM @.042.GL
GL
GL
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Originally posted by raven76:
Last hour should be fun..GL
Funny..
GL
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Originally posted by raven76:
I don't believe NITE just had 5000 shares to sell @ .043..Funny..
GL
How do you know who has what bids in? And who is NITE? I know these are green questions but that's exactly what I am at this. Thanks,
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Lance
P.S: I wanna see BAMM's bid @ .04's
GL
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
How do you know who has what bids in? And who is NITE? I know these are green questions but that's exactly what I am at this. Thanks,
[This message has been edited by raven76 (edited December 31, 2003).]
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Originally posted by raven76:
Watching level II and last sale..
Nite is one of the market makers..
P.S: I wanna see BAMM's bid @ .04'sGL
Okay, please have a little patience here. What is level II and how do you watch it? I know it's probably a dumb question but I have no idea. Hince my user id.
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quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
How do you know who has what bids in? And who is NITE? I know these are green questions but that's exactly what I am at this. Thanks,
quote:
Originally posted by raven76:
I would love a close above .043..
The highest closing price in the last trading day of 2003...GL
Please make it close @ or above 0.045$...
Best wishes to everyone, until next year :-)
pres
GL
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
quote:
Originally posted by raven76:
Level II and last sale are some tools for traders..Level II shows the bid-ask prices..
http://daytrading.about.com/cs/nasdaqlevelii/a/level_ii.htm
GL
Thanks a bunch for the link. Clears up a lot of questions...still reading though.
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Lance
At this time they will only sell if you are willing to pay a premium!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by Degs:
So whats up with the small volume? does magoo have the MM's scared to sell?
PSU
I am going to back off now and see what happens.
If it drops down to .041 I will put the pressure back on
I am going to be putting in a bid in the last 1/2 hour of tradeing in order to try to get a big load
If you are waiting you might want to buy now because if they fill all or part of mine it will probably drive up the price
I wanna enter the new year with the highest closing price PGHI had in 2003!!!!!!!!!!!
We deserved it, give it to me!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S: it's just symbolic, not that I care too much for EOD prices at these levels
GL
quote:
Originally posted by raven76:
I want a closing price above .043..I wanna enter the new year with the highest closing price PGHI had in 2003!!!!!!!!!!!
We deserved it, give it to me!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S: it's just symbolic, not that I care too much for EOD prices at these levels
GL
Happy New Year to all and a very big CHEERS!
quote:
Originally posted by chrissy_a:
Hey Guys just dropped by to wish all my fellow PGHI Investors a very happy and profitable new year !!!! its party time here in Ireland so I wish you and your families a great 2004.
ps keep up the great work and dd, this is the best message board by far.
Chris
Chris,
Happy New Year to all in Ireland from everyone in Texas !!!! Party Hardy and be safe. To everyone on Allstocks, Have a Happy New Year and be safe so we can all meet back here in 2004 !!!!!!
Greg.
Have a Happy, Healthy, Safe and Prosperous New Year to all!
Looking forward to 2004!
j160e
We are in good shape for the New Year
Happy New Year Everyone
I'll take .043, too..
It's also the highest closing price in 2003..
Happy new year everybody!!
GL
16:01:15 50000 0.044 + OTCBB
15:57:39 30000 0.043 + OTCBB
15:57:39 40000 0.0424 - OTCBB
15:57:36 125000 0.044 + OTCBB
15:57:18 28000 0.042 - OTCBB
15:56:09 450 0.043 - OTCBB
15:56:09 30000 0.044 + OTCBB
15:55:39 40000 0.042 - OTCBB
15:55:39 30000 0.043 + OTCBB
15:38:27 81000 0.042 - OTCBB
quote:
Originally posted by raven76:
I wanted a close @.044 or .045..I'll take .043, too..
It's also the highest closing price in 2003..
Happy new year everybody!!
GL
Have a GREAT New Years Eve and may we all stick together for 2004!!! May we all do exceptionally well in 2004 for our families, friends, and our wallets!!! As I reap a profit so shall those close to me
For those of you that showed concerns about MACH today I did E-Mail him.He said he is fine and felt he needed to step away and pay some attention to his other holdings.As far as MAV well who knows.I hope they will be back on Friday it just isn't the same without them.I think the MM's will suck the last of the 0.04 shares causing some sideways trading on Friday morning and then let it go in the late afternoon to 0.048.This should lead into 0.05 on Monday and then the run to 0.10 followed by an abundance of news.Just My Thoughts!MACH & MAV this cannot happen without you guys.Give us a HELLO.
TRSTURGUT-18
We finished strong today as were were tradeing sideways all day. This will set us up for what I think will be a stonger close on friday and then we will be ready to see some rapid progress next week.
I was able to secure a good amount of shares today but doing it in a way that I hope that everyone had gotten their orders filled which they might have had in.
Good Luck to us all and a good year ahead.
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Any bets on the Def 14c coming out tomorrow?
quote:
Originally posted by coumars:
mach and mav--------enjoy your rest. you certainly deserve it.
robin, a high 5 and a cyber hug.
uncle milty
There are several people here giving the Tech point of view on PGHI. I have personally used this information but am on a steep learning curve. Because of this I am gratefull that we have these people on our team.
I have been involved in setting up and running bussiness for about 30 years now.
Not comming out with any news that will spike the value of the stock is a wise move by John Flemming to this point. If I were JF I would want to set up as much of the physical structor of the company before you increase the value ahead of what the machine of the company can handle. What I meen about the machine of the company is if you increase the volume of produce too far ahead of demand then the cost factor ends up eating the profit in the tax structor. This is the new working inventory which at the end of the year is a tax liability at the end of the first year of operation. Any assets which Pghi holds is taxable at the end of 2003 on a start up company.
Now that it is 2004 there is no reason for applying the brakes and slowing the train down.
Timming is very important as shareholders are very critical of preformance as to how they see progress in a new company.
I believe that John Flemming is well aware of all the factors involved and has people around him to advise him to the timming of press releases.
As far as a press release on Firday probably a 50/50 chance. However I believe sometime next week.
There are several other reasons for keeping the value down until 2004 but it is a little complicated.
In any case my take on it is that we should see good news and movement during the course of the next week and snowball into the following weeks.
Good Luck to all.
Now that John was able to take some time off to rest his mind and his frustration, watch out for 2004, things will move very quickly! We all need to be patient and understanding, put yourself in their shoes. Sometimes people talk like as if they would do a better job than John. Well if you seriously think that way then I suggest you go start your own public company like PGHI and you'll see how hard it is!
You guys have a great 2004!
GLTA!
Walt
quote:
Originally posted by clay1999:
anyone projecting a high for this stock? I'm looking at the moon.. but a educated guess would be nice $$$$$ just so I can dream for a while
Clay
This is an impossible question for everyone at this point. Everyone would dream about it being the next Netflix at $50 per share.
I do believe that there will be many flat spots and retractions along the way but however we should show strong advances. I am sure that we will good advice along the way as the plan unfolds.
When we have Netflix as a sample of a similar company and a name that is out there then it is much eaiser to present the concept to the public,
There is a lot going for PGHI and we should show rapid advancement. However there are always some flat spots and some minor drops before you get to the very high end
I would be very happy if we are at 25 cents in a couple of months and then pushing a dollar within the year.
That's only an opion of this newbie
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Very quiet here tonight! Is it because most of us are up on our PGHI, and feel secure enough to take a night off and watch a movie? Or is it the anticipation that tomorrow and next week brings with the expected press releases and filing of the Def 14C?
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Very quiet here tonight! Is it because most of us are up on our PGHI, and feel secure enough to take a night off and watch a movie? Or is it the anticipation that tomorrow and next week brings with the expected press releases and filing of the Def 14C?
[This message has been edited by j160e (edited January 01, 2004).]
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Very quiet here tonight! Is it because most of us are up on our PGHI, and feel secure enough to take a night off and watch a movie? Or is it the anticipation that tomorrow and next week brings with the expected press releases and filing of the Def 14C?
Have a great 2004 Tommy! With your share position, you will be going on a nice ride IMO!
PSU
Can you drop me an email sometime Tommy. I have not been able to get onto RB in days (not that I'm probably missing much!).
psupens661 @ yahoo.com
Thanks!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
John Fleming is an amazing man but he got stampeded by many impatient shareholders who harassed him at the beginning of December. People from the RB will recall that period when someone created an MSN board and posted all of the email reply's that John gave out to shareholders. The move to KY and opening of the new DC was known way before the PR release because of that! That site was shut down in a heartbeat to the request of PGHI and John stopped replying to specific questions since then, fearing another leak!Now that John was able to take some time off to rest his mind and his frustration, watch out for 2004, things will move very quickly! We all need to be patient and understanding, put yourself in their shoes. Sometimes people talk like as if they would do a better job than John. Well if you seriously think that way then I suggest you go start your own public company like PGHI and you'll see how hard it is!
You guys have a great 2004!
GLTA!
[This message has been edited by PSU90 (edited January 01, 2004).]
The ascending triangle is narrowing where we are now, signaling a breakout in the near future. The last cup in the pattern is in the process of forming the handle.
The handle will be complete when all the weak hands sell off, and buying takes over into a breakout.
The technicals are showing that consolidation has been happening. The price is converging on the 8 day moving average, leveling off. Ignoring all that we know about future events, and just going by the technicals its possible here for a short term correction in the next two days. Stokes were previously around 80, and have dropped off in the past three sessions while maintaining the same price range. This shows a strong base. A short term correction to the 15 day ema is possible, and healthy to rid the stock of all weak hands. This type of move would put the stokes around 60, and make it possible for a new upwards move completing the handle.
However, seeing as there is so much buying interest in the stock, and given the amount of days that have passed enabling weak hands to exit, this correction may never materialize. Level 2 is showing very good signs with the bid @ .042 as of the close, and ask of .044. There was also very stong buying going into the close, all large sizes.
You have to remember that technicals are after the fact signals, and anything can occur.
IMO the weak hands have sold a couple of sessions ago, and we will trade flat- maybe with a small correction to .038 The MM realize news is on the horizon, and will not be selling off, but may hold their bids back, which they have been doing recently.
I will be accumulating another 30-50K over the next two sessions, target entry .038-.042, but will gladly pay .044-.05 depending on the market.
LONG TERM PGHI!!!
no coulda woulda shoulda's in 2004!
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cabbage22 - thank technical analysis for God
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Great job but then again I don't think you expect anything less from yourself.I guess we are all eagerly awaiting what we feel is the inevitable.I have been involved in many upstarts and there is a substantial amount of fine tuning that is happens behind the scenes.Just because the stock price is not moving does not mean that progress is not being made.We are just not privy to it at this point and rightfully so.Progress is usually being made when the stock is trading sideways and that is where we currently are.The increase in price will be the byproduct of that progress and that is the after effect of the plan falling into place.I think Friday will bring some profit taking from those that could not sell in 2003.There are those that do not think of this as a long term investment and want the cash profit.I would hope for a late afternoon rally to 0.049.If that happens I would like to see 0.05 Monday and with what looks like very little resistance .10 by Wednesday.Then I would like to see the PR released to take us to .25.Just my thoughts!!HEY MACH SAY HELLO !
TRSTURGUT-18
Thanks
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by Bazooka:
Hey guys, I probably wont be able to get into this stock untill late next week, and at only be able to invest around 300-400$ do you think it will be to late by then?Thanks
-moose-
quote:
Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
Hey Cabbage,Great job but then again I don't think you expect anything less from yourself.I guess we are all eagerly awaiting what we feel is the inevitable.I have been involved in many upstarts and there is a substantial amount of fine tuning that is happens behind the scenes.Just because the stock price is not moving does not mean that progress is not being made.We are just not privy to it at this point and rightfully so.Progress is usually being made when the stock is trading sideways and that is where we currently are.The increase in price will be the byproduct of that progress and that is the after effect of the plan falling into place.I think Friday will bring some profit taking from those that could not sell in 2003.There are those that do not think of this as a long term investment and want the cash profit.I would hope for a late afternoon rally to 0.049.If that happens I would like to see 0.05 Monday and with what looks like very little resistance .10 by Wednesday.Then I would like to see the PR released to take us to .25.Just my thoughts!!HEY MACH SAY HELLO !
TRSTURGUT-18
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I'm not sure who runs it.
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Originally posted by nitroburn:
Check out this site for DD on PGHI
http://stockskill.net/PGHI/#Stock-OwnershipI'm not sure who runs it.
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by nitroburn:
Check out this site for DD on PGHI
http://stockskill.net/PGHI/I'm not sure who runs it.
[This message has been edited by nitroburn (edited January 02, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by old mullet:
cabbage, you are one of my favorite reads here. your new links are great!! thanks for all you contribute. you have success written all over you. i'm curious about your handle cabbage 22.mach and mav--------enjoy your rest. you certainly deserve it.
robin, a high 5 and a cyber hug.
uncle milty
quote:
Originally posted by nitroburn:
Check out this site for DD on PGHI
http://stockskill.net/PGHI/I'm not sure who runs it.
[This message has been edited by nitroburn (edited January 02, 2004).]
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Lance
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Lance
I am considering Scottrade, is it a good choice?
Thanks,
Tommy
Nothing else comes close. I just made the switch myself from Ameritrade.
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
I'm looking into opening another account because my current one charges too much for OTC's. Can someone recommend me a good one?I am considering Scottrade, is it a good choice?
Thanks,
Tommy
$5,000 monthly payments to pump PGHI
by: chapel_of_words 12/14/03 09:37 am
Msg: 42902 of 44509
It's all in the acquisition agreement disclosed From note B of the critical accounting policies section of the quarterly report. If the VeeGeez founders don't raise the capital from pumping a penny stock and PPM sales they loose their $5k monthly consulting checks. $30k/quarter to pay consultants on a company that only generated $79k in sales in Q3.
b) Stock-Based Compensation Arrangements.
Acquisition of Veegeez.com, LLC.
On September 24, 2003, the Company acquired Veegeez.com, LLC, a California limited liability company ("VC") (see Exhibit 2.4 to this Form 10-QSB). The companies agreed to exchange 14,000,000 shares of their common stock on a 1-for-1 basis, with the total market value of $39,000. As of September 30, 2003, the Company recorded stock payable in the amount of $39,200 and compensation expense of $38,965.
The agreement is contingent upon the Company raising working capital in the amount of $500,000 within six months immediately following the closing date and $2,000,000 in total during the 12 months following the closing date. Should this not occur, the parties may choose to cancel this agreement.
According to the acquisition agreement, the Company assumed VC's continued operations effective October 1, 2003 by retaining the two original founders under a five-year consulting agreement to operate VC. Each of the consultants agreed to receive $5,000 monthly for the first six months of this agreement. Each of the consultants will receive monthly 2,500,000 shares of the Company's Form S-8 common stock until VC's earnings before income taxes is greater than $18,000. Once operating EBIT income is greater than $18,000, each of the consultants will receive the monthly consulting fees in the form of cash totaling $9,000.
Now go pump PGHI on some other board and not this one.
************
I know that Lance does a lot more than consulting services, he's the one working on the backend software and databases while Roy Vella only works on the design and graphics.
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by adrenalix:
Does anyone have thoughts on the last paragraph in the quote below? What does this mean?$5,000 monthly payments to pump PGHI
by: chapel_of_words 12/14/03 09:37 am
Msg: 42902 of 44509
It's all in the acquisition agreement disclosed From note B of the critical accounting policies section of the quarterly report. If the VeeGeez founders don't raise the capital from pumping a penny stock and PPM sales they loose their $5k monthly consulting checks. $30k/quarter to pay consultants on a company that only generated $79k in sales in Q3.
b) Stock-Based Compensation Arrangements.Acquisition of Veegeez.com, LLC.
On September 24, 2003, the Company acquired Veegeez.com, LLC, a California limited liability company ("VC") (see Exhibit 2.4 to this Form 10-QSB). The companies agreed to exchange 14,000,000 shares of their common stock on a 1-for-1 basis, with the total market value of $39,000. As of September 30, 2003, the Company recorded stock payable in the amount of $39,200 and compensation expense of $38,965.
The agreement is contingent upon the Company raising working capital in the amount of $500,000 within six months immediately following the closing date and $2,000,000 in total during the 12 months following the closing date. Should this not occur, the parties may choose to cancel this agreement.
According to the acquisition agreement, the Company assumed VC's continued operations effective October 1, 2003 by retaining the two original founders under a five-year consulting agreement to operate VC. Each of the consultants agreed to receive $5,000 monthly for the first six months of this agreement. Each of the consultants will receive monthly 2,500,000 shares of the Company's Form S-8 common stock until VC's earnings before income taxes is greater than $18,000. Once operating EBIT income is greater than $18,000, each of the consultants will receive the monthly consulting fees in the form of cash totaling $9,000.
Now go pump PGHI on some other board and not this one.
************
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
After PGHI acquired Veegeez, they retained the Wiseman brothers as consultants because they are founders of Veegeez. They are giving shares to pay for their consulting services until PGHI makes more than $18,000 a month with Veegeez, then they will be paid $9,000/month as long as their consulting services are not needed anymore, if that was to happen of course.I know that Lance does a lot more than consulting services, he's the one working on the backend software and databases while Roy Vella only works on the design and graphics.
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by adrenalix:
Does anyone have thoughts on the last paragraph in the quote below? What does this mean?$5,000 monthly payments to pump PGHI
by: chapel_of_words 12/14/03 09:37 am
Msg: 42902 of 44509
It's all in the acquisition agreement disclosed From note B of the critical accounting policies section of the quarterly report. If the VeeGeez founders don't raise the capital from pumping a penny stock and PPM sales they loose their $5k monthly consulting checks. $30k/quarter to pay consultants on a company that only generated $79k in sales in Q3.
b) Stock-Based Compensation Arrangements.Acquisition of Veegeez.com, LLC.
On September 24, 2003, the Company acquired Veegeez.com, LLC, a California limited liability company ("VC") (see Exhibit 2.4 to this Form 10-QSB). The companies agreed to exchange 14,000,000 shares of their common stock on a 1-for-1 basis, with the total market value of $39,000. As of September 30, 2003, the Company recorded stock payable in the amount of $39,200 and compensation expense of $38,965.
The agreement is contingent upon the Company raising working capital in the amount of $500,000 within six months immediately following the closing date and $2,000,000 in total during the 12 months following the closing date. Should this not occur, the parties may choose to cancel this agreement.
According to the acquisition agreement, the Company assumed VC's continued operations effective October 1, 2003 by retaining the two original founders under a five-year consulting agreement to operate VC. Each of the consultants agreed to receive $5,000 monthly for the first six months of this agreement. Each of the consultants will receive monthly 2,500,000 shares of the Company's Form S-8 common stock until VC's earnings before income taxes is greater than $18,000. Once operating EBIT income is greater than $18,000, each of the consultants will receive the monthly consulting fees in the form of cash totaling $9,000.
Now go pump PGHI on some other board and not this one.
************
that is the site from our Belgian 'leader' of our tradinggroup. He's not in PGHI however... But he knows what he does...
BWEB, MPOW, and many more this year. He made over 300% profit with his picks...
pres
QUOTE]Originally posted by presumptuous:
Chrissy
that is the site from our Belgian 'leader' of our tradinggroup. He's not in PGHI however... But he knows what he does...
BWEB, MPOW, and many more this year. He made over 300% profit with his picks...
pres[/QUOTE]
It's off to work for me but should be able to check in from time to time for another game of tag with the MM's
If you are buying more shares I do hope you are able to secure what you want.
Have a good PGHI day and Happy New Year to you.
quote:
Originally posted by Mav:
I hope the best for every one here in this year 2004. As for PGHI expectation is great, good DD, fantastic team here, I am holding strong for the big events. I have been working doing more DD as always. We all work hard and share our efforts, that is a team.!!!.
quote:
Originally posted by adrenalix:
Does anyone have thoughts on the last paragraph in the quote below? What does this mean?$5,000 monthly payments to pump PGHI
by: chapel_of_words 12/14/03 09:37 am
Msg: 42902 of 44509
It's all in the acquisition agreement disclosed From note B of the critical accounting policies section of the quarterly report. If the VeeGeez founders don't raise the capital from pumping a penny stock and PPM sales they loose their $5k monthly consulting checks. $30k/quarter to pay consultants on a company that only generated $79k in sales in Q3.
b) Stock-Based Compensation Arrangements.Acquisition of Veegeez.com, LLC.
On September 24, 2003, the Company acquired Veegeez.com, LLC, a California limited liability company ("VC") (see Exhibit 2.4 to this Form 10-QSB). The companies agreed to exchange 14,000,000 shares of their common stock on a 1-for-1 basis, with the total market value of $39,000. As of September 30, 2003, the Company recorded stock payable in the amount of $39,200 and compensation expense of $38,965.
The agreement is contingent upon the Company raising working capital in the amount of $500,000 within six months immediately following the closing date and $2,000,000 in total during the 12 months following the closing date. Should this not occur, the parties may choose to cancel this agreement.
According to the acquisition agreement, the Company assumed VC's continued operations effective October 1, 2003 by retaining the two original founders under a five-year consulting agreement to operate VC. Each of the consultants agreed to receive $5,000 monthly for the first six months of this agreement. Each of the consultants will receive monthly 2,500,000 shares of the Company's Form S-8 common stock until VC's earnings before income taxes is greater than $18,000. Once operating EBIT income is greater than $18,000, each of the consultants will receive the monthly consulting fees in the form of cash totaling $9,000.
Now go pump PGHI on some other board and not this one.
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quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Nice slow walk up to .05
pres
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Originally posted by JustMe:
Things seem slow today, but we are slowly ticking up.....43x45
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Over all, they have released more press releases on Tues, but not by much...they release them all over the week...so a monday press release would not be out of the question. Either would a Friday one...although I am not holding my breath for a friday one.
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I would also like to see some support build. We could be looking at the high .03's by the end of the day if there is no support
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Looks like we'll see a push towards .05..
GL
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I would also like to see some support build. We could be looking at the high .03's by the end of the day if there is no support
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Originally posted by raven76:
Level II looks good... we definitely positioned ourselves for the news..Looks like we'll see a push towards .05..
GL
GL
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Originally posted by chrissy_a:
Ask at .047 we may test the .049 today...this maybe part due to the great news nflx had today
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PSU
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Originally posted by chrissy_a:
Ask at .047 we may test the .049 today...this maybe part due to the great news nflx had today
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Originally posted by raven76:
Maybe,
however volume is low..I wanna is some volume involved..Looks like we wont be going back to the .03 range ...GL
QUOTE]Originally posted by PSU90:
Good morning Chrissy and all! Looks like the bulls are getting that nasty look on their faces! Will the MM's open the gate or just get them in a frenzy today?
PSU
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Looks lik were getting ready to rally. Support at .044 is building. Ask is at .047
I guess its afternoon in your part of the world now! My family visited Galway/County Mayo a few years ago. Gorgeous country. We hope to go back someday soon!
PSU
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Originally posted by chrissy_a:
Good morning PSU, Hope you had a great NEW YEARS DAY !! it would be nice if we were left run abit and then get the news imo we would blow right past the .10 and up to the .2 level !!QUOTE]Originally posted by PSU90:
[b]Good morning Chrissy and all! Looks like the bulls are getting that nasty look on their faces! Will the MM's open the gate or just get them in a frenzy today?PSU
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Yes Mayo, Galway is a lovely part of Ireland,Drop me a mail at chrissy1@eircom.net if you want or need any info for your next trip to Ireland..Beautiful country ...all we need is some great sunshine and I would never need to go to Spain for my sun holidays ;-)
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Originally posted by PSU90:
Agree Chrissy! Frenzied bulls with a shot of news would be fun! Gotta shorten the spread or it will stall.I guess its afternoon in your part of the world now! My family visited Galway/County Mayo a few years ago. Gorgeous country. We hope to go back someday soon!
PSU
Looks like he's back down to .045 now....testing the water
Spread is tighting .045x.047
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
one bid at .047 (CRWN) and he's holding strongLooks like he's back down to .045 now....testing the water
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Thanks, Den
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Originally posted by denjohn1000:
I have a question for you guys, I just got level 2 from Ameritrade, now how can I use it for pennies?Thanks, Den
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Originally posted by PSU90:
CRWN stepping up to the plate again with the bid at .046. Now we are at .046x.047 which might get some volume started.[This message has been edited by PSU90 (edited January 02, 2004).]
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Originally posted by denjohn1000:
I have a question for you guys, I just got level 2 from Ameritrade, now how can I use it for pennies?Thanks, Den
GLTA!
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
NEW ALL TIME HIGH .05!!!
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Originally posted by tommy:
If we reach .05, the Subway and other alerts will report a new high alert and we'll run like hell!GLTA!
MACHHHHHHHHHH, show up!!!!
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Originally posted by Degs:
there's our nickle... lets roll
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Now that we've broken all resistence points, there is no limit to how high this will go, until we establish new resistence points!!!!
NITE at 051....we They are lined up at 051 WOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
This is going way too fast...WOW!!!! Can't type quick enough
NITE at 051....we They are lined up at 051 WOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW!!!!!!!!
happy holding strong.
GLTA!
317,000 for me.....=)
To The Moon!!!!!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by Degs:
.058 sky is the limit love this stock!!!!
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Originally posted by Anna:
Watch out for a little profit taking. Holy Smoke! I should sleep late more often!To The Moon!!!!!
Can anyone say EXPLOSIVE!
Yeeeehaaaaaa......let's ride those bulls!
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Originally posted by Mav:
CONGRATULATIONS EVERYONE HERE!!!!
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Originally posted by tommy:
The new high alert hasn't been sent out yet, watch out for another run when it does!GLTA!
Happy New Year everyone! Thank you to Mach, Mav, Cabbage, Raven, Maggoo.. the list goes on and on.. What a great bunch on this site!
FlyWolf
GLTA!
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Originally posted by tommy:
Here's a good link to alerts and news, you should bookmark it!
http://www.knobias.com/individual/public/quote.htm?ticker=PGHIGLTA!
one is jumping in and out at 052
Bid
One at 052
three at 05
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Originally posted by Anna:
I'm at home today with no level II. Can anybody say how they are lining up? PLEEEAASSEEEE.
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Originally posted by Anna:
Thanks Bet. Mach where are you?
I wanna see .05 to hold..If it does; an awesome sign...
GL
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
a lot of selling going on...still holding strong!!!!
Then 4 weeks of January!!!!!
Not selling till July
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Originally posted by raven76:
Let them sell!!!
It means stronger people will join....I wanna see .05 to hold..If it does; an awesome sign...
GL
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
we still have 4 hours of trading left-Then 4 weeks of January!!!!!
Not selling till July
why july?
GLTA!
Hold strong, and hold long!
GLTA!
GL
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Originally posted by JEB7006:
Selling is to be expected at these levels. The short-termers will take their 10-30% gain and run with it. However, with this breakout and the upcoming PR, many new buyers will be attracted over the next few days and weeks. Look for a bunch of new members on this site looking for DD.....Hold strong, and hold long!
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Originally posted by tommy:
There's the new high alert!
http://www.knobias.com/individual/public/news.htm?ei d=3.1.fc9e9f77c947708b98dde4ee4b147359b732db24a625f4b36215bf860b27c058GLTA!
The share price for Point Group Holdings Inc (OTCBB: PGHI) reached a new 52-week high today, trading at $0.050, up $0.007 (16.28%) from its previous close of $0.043.
The Company's previous 52-week high of $0.049 was set 24 days ago on December 09, 2003.
One year ago, the Company's shares closed at $0.001. The price has climbed more than 4900 percent since then.
At the time of this alert, the stock had traded 1,764,600 shares via 75 trades, 74.75% below it's 20day average of 6,988,845 shares.
This new 52-week high currently puts the stock:
42.65% above its 20day Moving Average of $0.035
87.48% above its 50day Moving Average of $0.027
236.47% above its 100day Moving Average of $0.015
The Company last released news on August 14, 2003:
"Point Group Holdings, Incorporated's CEO/President and Dr. Michael Samuels of Bio-Nutritional Products Development, Inc. Are Interviewed on Internet Radio by WallStreetWorld.tv Media Group"
POINT GROUP HOLDINGS INC
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated is a holding company which, through its subsidiaries, provides management services to businesses that have an operating history or can substantiate future performance in their respective industries. The Company participates in companies in various fields of business by providing executive-level managerial assistance as well as arranging for and contributing capital investment.
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POINT GROUP HOLDINGS INC (OTCBB: PGHI)
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52-Week High Technical Analysis
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Originally posted by JEB7006:
Selling is to be expected at these levels. The short-termers will take their 10-30% gain and run with it. However, with this breakout and the upcoming PR, many new buyers will be attracted over the next few days and weeks. Look for a bunch of new members on this site looking for DD.....Hold strong, and hold long!
Agree!
Dz
Happy New Year
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
))welcome man ))
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Originally posted by machtabow:
Test
GL
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Originally posted by Tonyg032001:
Welcome back
i said i was going to smell the roses, but this is smelling pretty damn good here.
uncle milty
We are having a small new-year party here..
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Originally posted by old mullet:
wow!! whay a way to start the year. 4x7&8 digit positions up xx%. go pghi, afrr, cytp, neom.i said i was going to smell the roses, but this is smelling pretty damn good here.
uncle milty
PSU
GLTA!
uncle milty
Please suggest me..
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Originally posted by raven76:
Get used to 4-5 spreads guys..
That's how are we gonna trade when we pass .1..GL
Please suggest me..>
I bought more this morning at .048....I like the potential of this Co., but you have to make your own decisions.
Good luck
Just Me
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Originally posted by tommy:
I love the fact that this little breakout happens on a Friday where people usually take profit! This weekend new investors and traders will have time to DD the stock and Monday I expect another nice pop and then Tueday, BAM we kick it up a notch!GLTA!
Not only is it Friday... but it is the first Friday of the new year and folks won't have to worry about cap gains in the short term. That makes this run that much more impressive!
GLTA!
FlyWolf
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Originally posted by nitroburn:
Im not selling a single share untill we see at least .30!!
That's way too low to SELL @.GTC it to 3.04
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Good Luck to All of US.
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Originally posted by old mullet:
yeah! mach is bach!! let's party!!!uncle milty
cream rises pals.
uncle milty
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Originally posted by old mullet:
mach and all, i see this cooperation for the common good as being the way allstocks will go forward in 2004. leave the non productive bickering and badmouthing to the other sites. there is a track record developing here to prove that a thread that focuses on the stock and leaves the bs and name calling behind is a winning recipe.cream rises pals.
uncle milty
Well said Milty
If this stock keeps this up, I'll be able to stay home permanently from work....lol
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Originally posted by JustMe:
Can someone tell me what the MM signal of 100 shares means again?...TIA
I found this legend somewhere else on Allstocks..
MM code:
MM Signals................................
a-Signals between MMs...
100 > I need shares
200 > I need shares badly but dont take it down to get em
300 > Take the price down to get shares....
400 > Trade it sideways based on Supply and Demand
500 > Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction
of the 500 trade. Sometimes -if in the middle -keep the price right where it is.
GLTA!
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Originally posted by old mullet:
mach and all, i see this cooperation for the common good as being the way allstocks will go forward in 2004. leave the non productive bickering and badmouthing to the other sites. there is a track record developing here to prove that a thread that focuses on the stock and leaves the bs and name calling behind is a winning recipe.cream rises pals.
uncle milty
That's the reason I'm here now. Other boards were not constructive in their approach. In fact, a lot of personnal comments and pump/dump stuff.
Best wishes to you all for new years. Hope I can contribute with my knowledge when appropriate.
Malloy
waiting for the other shoe to drop
No trade in almost 20 mins....maybe they will raise the bid to get those shares.
Come on CRWN
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Originally posted by Magoo:
Don't sell now anyone I am about to pressure the MM's
When they adjust so will I and that should drive the price back up.
Sorry if you are trying to buy in but I am not going to let them take the price any lower if I can.
If they do then they will have to give me 1.5 million shares
*** Future's so Bright ***
Mach
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
SCHB is trsting the water. he's taking the lead at....053 at the bid
Just curious. Great work on your behalf. We have all worked well together to beat the MM game and it's certainly working. I'm glad you found this thread Magoo! mach
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Originally posted by Magoo:
I have a bid in that should lock down the MM's and force them higher if they want to purchase more shares.When they adjust so will I and that should drive the price back up.
Sorry if you are trying to buy in but I am not going to let them take the price any lower if I can.
If they do then they will have to give me 1.5 million shares
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Originally posted by machtabow:
Magoo... Where are you adding the pressure... @ what price... I assume you are placing a floor of 1 million shares @.051/.052/.053... We have considerable support @.051 right now... Take care. mach
I am at .052 and am going to stair step it if I get smaller fills
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Originally posted by Magoo:
I am at .052 and am going to stair step it if I get smaller fills
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Originally posted by machtabow:
BetN... You've been waiting for this Breakout patiently for a month now... Your patience is paying off. Hope you did buy on more on the dip last time around. Congratulations.*** Future's so Bright ***
Mach
Welcome back Mach! Gotta love those passwords!
PSU
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Originally posted by machtabow:
Hey Milty... Notice I'm machtabow and not machtabow2. Couldn't figure out the password for that one. Oh well! Nice to be able to post again! We should close at the high and continue upward Monday! I'm glad that so many people were able to get in on this and kept the fait. No complaining... or very little. Strong shareholders... and savy investors! Go PGHI!!!!!!!!!!! mach
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Originally posted by machtabow:
Perfect.. Learning to play the game well. mach
I will cancel my order if it is not a complete fill.
I am more or less trying to keep the MM's in check and keep it going in the right direction.
By the way my investment group has gone from six the ten over the New Year. I now have triple my working balance.
Good luck everybody we are doing better than I have hoped today
I'm suprised you ask the question... as we have stated it many times... it was a technical breakout after breaking through resistance at .048/.049. The completion of the Ascending Triangle... leading to a breakout. I believe we will close at the high and continue up. The web site launch may very well be next week. The next few trading days should be very exciting! When ADOT broke out... many people sold too soon and didnt realize the full potential of the breakout... Don't sell too soon here! mach
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
anyone here think there will be profit taking later today? and i came in late.. what was the reason for such a rise today
I will up the pressure and see what they do. If they blow past me then I will cancel and check back if they try to drop again.
If they do I will apply pressure again so that we should have a good close
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Originally posted by Magoo:
They are trying to keep me out but I have had partical fills.I will up the pressure and see what they do. If they blow past me then I will cancel and check back if they try to drop again.
If they do I will apply pressure again so that we should have a good close
The MM signal...
Would a 50,000 be a 500?
or is the 500 mean 500?
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I don't want your shares but I will be buying them off you if you are are trying to get out of this oppertunity at this point
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Originally posted by machtabow:
stockguy,When ADOT broke out... many people sold too soon and didnt realize the full potential of the breakout... Don't sell too soon here! mach
Raising my hand here.....duh! I blew it big time on that one! Sold about two days too soon! Oh, the lessons I've learned over the past six months!
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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I have a question.The MM signal...
Would a 50,000 be a 500?
or is the 500 mean 500?[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 02, 2004).]
If you want it just right click and save as!
Enjoy!
Hope someone could share some thoughts
Anyways it is amazing to see this break resistance on no news. Good luck all
Magoo places the floor... others are buying it up! Great Strategy! Keep on pounding the NFLX board! They are joing the party! mach
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Originally posted by JustMe:
Looks like Magoo just picked up 421K
Many people are still sitting on the sideline, waiting for a confirmation of the name change and new site, then they will out thir money in. Those people are the less gamblers of investors. Don't worry, a PR will be more than welcome!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by trader01:
just some thoughts, would the impact of any PR be reduced since so much of us know about this company and are anticipating a run? Usually companies break out resulting from a PR because it is POSITIVE and UNEXPECTED. We all know it is gonna be both and we all did our accumulating so there wouldnt be more accumalating when the PR comes out (the reason companies fly). I have a strange feeling that 75% of the volume is a result of allstock members, meaning, all of us discussing this.Hope someone could share some thoughts
Anyways it is amazing to see this break resistance on no news. Good luck all
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Originally posted by trader01:
just some thoughts, would the impact of any PR be reduced since so much of us know about this company and are anticipating a run? Usually companies break out resulting from a PR because it is POSITIVE and UNEXPECTED. We all know it is gonna be both and we all did our accumulating so there wouldnt be more accumalating when the PR comes out (the reason companies fly). I have a strange feeling that 75% of the volume is a result of allstock members, meaning, all of us discussing this.Hope someone could share some thoughts
Anyways it is amazing to see this break resistance on no news. Good luck all
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Originally posted by trader01:
just some thoughts, would the impact of any PR be reduced since so much of us know about this company and are anticipating a run? Usually companies break out resulting from a PR because it is POSITIVE and UNEXPECTED. We all know it is gonna be both and we all did our accumulating so there wouldnt be more accumalating when the PR comes out (the reason companies fly). I have a strange feeling that 75% of the volume is a result of allstock members, meaning, all of us discussing this.Hope someone could share some thoughts
Anyways it is amazing to see this break resistance on no news. Good luck all
GLTA!
It will have a very small short term effect if we all sell..Maybe one day or two, there are gonna be smarter investors who will replace us shortly..The market is big enough to absorb that amount of selling..(I agree with cabbage and the others here)
GL
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Originally posted by trader01:
just some thoughts, would the impact of any PR be reduced since so much of us know about this company and are anticipating a run? Usually companies break out resulting from a PR because it is POSITIVE and UNEXPECTED. We all know it is gonna be both and we all did our accumulating so there wouldnt be more accumalating when the PR comes out (the reason companies fly). I have a strange feeling that 75% of the volume is a result of allstock members, meaning, all of us discussing this.Hope someone could share some thoughts
Anyways it is amazing to see this break resistance on no news. Good luck all
I am so enthused to see what PGHI has done today. It is going very well... and no news yet. So much potential. I'm hanging on.
Glad to see Mach back. Didn't see you for a day or two.
Go! Go! Go! PGHI!!!
GL
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
the NFLX board is sizzling with talk about PGHI... many new investors or jumping on board... anyone thikn a close above .06 today
I hope many new investors join us for this ride.
MM signal 500 @ 15:00:54 @ .053
He dropped his BID from .052 I believe
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
Yeah they're all talking about it-MM signal 500 @ 15:00:54 @ .053
Last hour run would be great. One last attention getter for the new investor!
Let's see if the MM's are going 5o back down again
I am going to try to keep our price up in the mid 5 range for the rest of the day unless it takes off by it's self
How could anyone pass this up... especially if they were in on the NetFlix run. It's almost like winning the lotto twice.
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Originally posted by raven76:
Honestly,
I don't expect a close above .055(just because today is friday, there are lots of guys who won't hold over the weekend..)
If we don't see a small amount of sell-of @ the EOD, this will be another confirmation how strong this stock is..Then I will expect a gap up on Monday..Holding my breath, watching the last hour..GL
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Originally posted by Magoo:
Time for a little pressure again.Let's see if the MM's are going 5o back down again
I am going to try to keep our price up in the mid 5 range for the rest of the day unless it takes off by it's self
Just had a good quanity fill at .052 I will see if they are going to let me have more and then chase then if they up the stakes
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Originally posted by delt16:
We need the new website soon!! The current site is a mess as well as a turn off!! Its hard to belive that they would have any memberships. A high quality web site can make a huge difference in memberships.
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Originally posted by delt16:
We need the new website soon!! The current site is a mess as well as a turn off!! Its hard to belive that they would have any memberships. A high quality web site can make a huge difference in memberships.
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Originally posted by Magoo:
Just had a good quanity fill at .052 I will see if they are going to let me have more and then chase then if they up the stakes
The MM's are running past me so I will try to push them a little more and see how much they are willing to pay for their shares
Wooter
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Originally posted by delt16:
We need the new website soon!! The current site is a mess as well as a turn off!! Its hard to belive that they would have any memberships. A high quality web site can make a huge difference in memberships.
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Originally posted by Magoo:
The MM's are running past me so I will try to push them a little more and see how much they are willing to pay for their shares
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Originally posted by cabbage22:
oh crap i didnt post fast enough!
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Originally posted by machtabow:
Cabbage... Trying to recall a day when they haven't tried the 3:30 shakeout. And then the strong close. Good luck! mach
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
the NFLX board is sizzling with talk about PGHI... many new investors or jumping on board... anyone thikn a close above .06 today
GL
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Originally posted by raven76:
The question is:
Are the people-who are selling now- gonna be able to buy back at these levels?
I don't think so..GL
Shaking the tree... makes sense to me.
Now don't forget about the new website, the name change, and all of the other "potentials" here. Just read this thread!!!
Interesting.
GL
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Originally posted by Degs:
so how far do you think they will shake it down to?
I'm practicing my data gathering...
No worries here, expected action..
GL
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Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Now SCHB and HILL @ .05 on the BID!I'm practicing my data gathering...
Time (EST) Volume Price Exchange Bought/Sold Tran/Type Legend
16:00:15 10000 0.049 - OTCBB T (F)
16:00:09 500 0.051 + OTCBB T (F)
Look at the 500 at the ASK, looks like the MM's want to let it gap up on Monday!
GLTA!
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
anyone here live in the Los Angeles or Orange County area
I lived in ORANGE HILLS ...What's up bro?
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Originally posted by stockguy04:
anyone here live in the Los Angeles or Orange County area
Ahoy!I lived in ORANGE HILLS...What's up Bro?
60,000 @ .052
12,500 @ .052
72,500 @ .052
Don't get in at the low but don't think .003 cents will matter when we are north of .50 cents.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
GLTA!
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Originally posted by machtabow:
Just realized we had over 2000 post on this thread. The last was 1000! Wow!*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
You have obviously not read the preceeding
44 pages of information.What a way to come on as a new member.Do not apologize for your double post apologize for insulting the intelligence level of our PGHI family.Say something positive or creative to help in our plight and express your feelings with dignity.We all know what the site requires and if you would like to help fund it than send your money to John Fleming I am sure he needs your money more than your ill advised comments.If you are taken back by my comments I apologize but please refrain from negative statements as negativity breeds more negativity.
ORIGINAL POST BY DELT 16
[We need the new website soon!! The current site is a mess as well as a turn off!! Its hard to belive that they would have any memberships. A high quality web site can make a huge difference in memberships.]
Have a nice weekend all!
mach
Just came home and I see it was quite a day.Good to see you posting again.I see as the thread grows we have some new additions that have less than encouraging statements to make.I guess that comes as part of the territory.My business schedule does not allow me the time to post during the day but it is great to come home and see all
the information that changes hands during the day.This is truely a great team effort.I continue to learn a great deal from this unique bunch.I sold my EAG to buy more PGHI, now that it has reached this plateau.Hopefully it will run to .07 on Monday and with some PR by midweek we can see .25 by Friday.Great work Mach!
TRSTURGUT-18
Delt hasn't said anything that has not been said before.
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Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
HEY DELT 16.....You have obviously not read the preceeding
44 pages of information.What a way to come on as a new member.Do not apologize for your double post apologize for insulting the intelligence level of our PGHI family.Say something positive or creative to help in our plight and express your feelings with dignity.We all know what the site requires and if you would like to help fund it than send your money to John Fleming I am sure he needs your money more than your ill advised comments.If you are taken back by my comments I apologize but please refrain from negative statements as negativity breeds more negativity.ORIGINAL POST BY DELT 16
[We need the new website soon!! The current site is a mess as well as a turn off!! Its hard to belive that they would have any memberships. A high quality web site can make a huge difference in memberships.]
JMHO of course!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
I was expecting the Def. 14c to be filed this week but I guess that things don't happen when John F. is not around. I will make a bold prediction and say Monday because the Def. 14a was filed on a Monday.JMHO of course!
GLTA!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by duke:
up 50% in less than 2 weeks.i'm not getting too excited cause anything can happen but i'm holding for the long term. barcharts.com has it as an 88% long term buy. this could be fun.
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
where is orange hills?
It borders Anaheim Hills,Vill Park,Tustin and Old Towne Orange.
Where you from bro?
Chk Map Quest!
Later
Was able to pick up a good amout of shares today which averaged out to about .05 overall so I am satisified.
I do still have some cash so I will be able to play tag with the MM's for a bit longer.
Great PGHI day today everyone and I believe this was a good boost for us going into the soon to be news.
From what I read he's positive on the future of this company when the new website is released just like everyone else.
All I'm saying is lighten up. Just reply positively and that will kill any sort of negativity that you're afraid of. GLTA!!
quote:
Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
HEY DELT 16.....You have obviously not read the preceeding
44 pages of information.What a way to come on as a new member.Do not apologize for your double post apologize for insulting the intelligence level of our PGHI family.Say something positive or creative to help in our plight and express your feelings with dignity.We all know what the site requires and if you would like to help fund it than send your money to John Fleming I am sure he needs your money more than your ill advised comments.If you are taken back by my comments I apologize but please refrain from negative statements as negativity breeds more negativity.ORIGINAL POST BY DELT 16
[We need the new website soon!! The current site is a mess as well as a turn off!! Its hard to belive that they would have any memberships. A high quality web site can make a huge difference in memberships.]
quote:
Originally posted by joelotto:
Can some of you guys tell me why I can't get on ragingbull.com This is the only website I can't access. Any ideas????? TIA
Composite Indicator -- Signal -- -- Strength -- -- Direction --
Trend Spotter (TM) Buy Maximum Strengthening
Short Term Indicators
7 Day Average Directional Indicator Buy Average Strongest
10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Buy Average Strengthening
20 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy Weak Average
20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Buy Maximum Average
20 Day Bollinger Bands Buy Minimum Strongest
Short Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
Medium Term Indicators
40 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy Weak Strongest
50 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy Strong Average
20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy Maximum Average
50 Day Parabolic Time/Price Buy Strong Average
Medium Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
Long Term Indicators
60 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy Minimum Strongest
100 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy Maximum Average
50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy Maximum Average
Long Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
Overall Average: 100% - Buy
quote:
Originally posted by nitroburn:
Who here is a subscriber to VEEGEEZ? If we all want this company to do good we all might as well subscribe to the service.....especially when the new site comes out.
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Looks like their setting up for a shakeout Magoo, they could dump right on you-
Thanks for the warning Cabbage. I did cancel my order before they dumped on me.
go pghi!!!
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031219/laf096_1.html
The new shareholders comming in at this pioint and higher are looking much further ahead for the profits which some of us have already realized.
I do now have some more friends buying in at this point and a bit higher yet.
I believe that we will see our base stairstep up and up and then have a breakout with the news releases.
I would adive everyone and especially the ones just comming in at this point to see where we are at in two weeks. This should be the most profitable two weeks you have ever realized.
GLTA!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
PGHI is the best performing component of the Dow Jones for the last 6 month and 1-year!GLTA!
The two sites that I run both have the new banner on it, If you have a personal site you should do the same!
quote:
Originally posted by nitroburn:
Who here is a subscriber to VEEGEEZ? If we all want this company to do good we all might as well subscribe to the service.....especially when the new site comes out.
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
Since I asked a few of my relatives- actually, I told a few of my relatives to buy PGHI a couple weeks ago- now I have my other relatives which I didn't ask mad at me. "How could you not tell us" and that sort of thing. Am I supposed to feel bad about this? Because I didn't ask my grandparents and aunts and uncles that can barely make out their 401k statements to put money in a speculative start-up penny stock with unlimited potential?!?!
Maybe I'll let them in on the next 30+ page thread.
Looking foward to a great year guys, we have a lot of talent from all different areas. Start looking for the next company with unlimited potential, and DD it.
offshore
Before PGHI I used to enjoy the weekend, now I can't wait for Mondays! Yes I've been a PGHI addict for 3 months and I admit it!
GLTA!
oh yea, and then I tell them, 'oh I have a 100% return so far' and then think I'm crazy for not selling it yet, if only they could understand the potential in PGHI.
My parents and girlfriend would be really happy right now if they got in @ ~0.024 like I suggested...poor fools
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
PGHI is so hot right now.Since I asked a few of my relatives- actually, I told a few of my relatives to buy PGHI a couple weeks ago- now I have my other relatives which I didn't ask mad at me. "How could you not tell us" and that sort of thing. Am I supposed to feel bad about this? Because I didn't ask my grandparents and aunts and uncles that can barely make out their 401k statements to put money in a speculative start-up penny stock with unlimited potential?!?!
Maybe I'll let them in on the next 30+ page thread.
Looking foward to a great year guys, we have a lot of talent from all different areas. Start looking for the next company with unlimited potential, and DD it.
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
PGHI is so hot right now.Since I asked a few of my relatives- actually, I told a few of my relatives to buy PGHI a couple weeks ago- now I have my other relatives which I didn't ask mad at me. "How could you not tell us" and that sort of thing. Am I supposed to feel bad about this? Because I didn't ask my grandparents and aunts and uncles that can barely make out their 401k statements to put money in a speculative start-up penny stock with unlimited potential?!?!
Maybe I'll let them in on the next 30+ page thread.
Looking foward to a great year guys, we have a lot of talent from all different areas. Start looking for the next company with unlimited potential, and DD it.
It is really funny how others view the ones who are picking stocks.
At work I have been distarcted more and more often to check into what the price is doing so that I can try to buy more.
There is about seventy employees where I work and the news travels fast as I have told several people about PGHI.
Now I have found out that there are others wanting to buy in and others who think it is just a joke.
Goes to show that the majority usually sits on the sidelines and pass judgement without ever getting their feet wet.
I believe that there will be about twenty or so new people from work getting on the PGHI wagon.
My investment group has increased to ten and we will be looking into the PPM stocks with some extra revenue.
Good Luck and I hope everyone gets what they want from this stock and any others which you might hold.
By the way I am snow bound up here in Northwest Washington and the wind is blowing about 40mph. Guess it is a stay at home day.
CBS Marketwatch did an interesting piece this morning about pay per play interactive video games.Electronic Arts was featured in the piece.They expect this form of video gaming to be in the billions by 2007.You can win thousands but limit your losses to $100.a month.How addictive will that become if they are already stopping players at $100.maximum loss a month.The prospects of various revenue sources from video gaming are tremendous.
TRSTURGUT-18
Good job to all the longs, and glad to have all of the new people too...=)
Just Me
Go to www.nutechdvd.com.Symbol..NTDL
This will give you an idea of where PGHI can go in the DVD business.The companies shares are selling at 15 times more than PGHI.It makes for an interesting comparison.
TRSTURGUT-18
I added the symbol to the web address sorry!
www.nutechdvd.com
TRSTURGUT-18
quote:
Originally posted by JustMe:
Tradetreks forecast for the next 5 days.
http://www.tradetrek.com/NN/default.asp?symbol=PGHIGood job to all the longs, and glad to have all of the new people too...=)
Just Me
Composite Indicator
Trend Spotter (TM) Buy
Short Term Indicators
7 Day Average Directional Indicator Buy
10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Buy
20 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
20 Day Bollinger Bands Buy
Short Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
20-Day Average Volume - 7079860
Medium Term Indicators
40 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
50 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
50 Day Parabolic Time/Price Buy
Medium Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
50-Day Average Volume - 11862310
Long Term Indicators
60 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
100 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
Long Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
100-Day Average Volume - 8199104
Overall Average: 100% - Buy
Price Support Pivot Point Resistance
0.05 0.03 0.05 0.07
You stated in your last post that we should start looking for the next company but I did not know how people would feel about discussing that on this site.I need your direction on that one.
TRSTURGUT-18
I was driving around, and realized it was a Friday afternoon, and that PGHI was going to release a PR soon. So I went to local park, and somehow found a paper copy of the PR that was released minutes earlier. The PR stated the VeeGeez had 1,800,000 in revenue from new subscribers, and was going to retire the PPM idea. I then hopped in my car and drove home as fast as I could to check streamer. Now I have proof that I'm a PGHI addict, hahaha!
quote:
Originally posted by TRSTURGUT-18:
CABBAGE,You stated in your last post that we should start looking for the next company but I did not know how people would feel about discussing that on this site.I need your direction on that one.
TRSTURGUT-18
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
You know you're an addict when you have PGHI dreams. This was my second PGHI dream. I'll try and recall it as best I can.I was driving around, and realized it was a Friday afternoon, and that PGHI was going to release a PR soon. So I went to local park, and somehow found a paper copy of the PR that was released minutes earlier. The PR stated the VeeGeez had 1,800,000 in revenue from new subscribers, and was going to retire the PPM idea. I then hopped in my car and drove home as fast as I could to check streamer. Now I have proof that I'm a PGHI addict, hahaha!
Hey I was in that dream and I thought I saw you.
I woke up and my dog was stareing at me and telling me to buy more PGHI
Then I really woke up and realized that I don't have a dog
Do you really want to start this type of nonsence? I may be new to posting here but I've been an allstock reader for a while. So draw your own conclusion on whether or not I have read the previous 44 pages.
You are funny...."insulting the intelligence level of our PGHI family."
Maybe I will start my next comment off with..."It almost feels like the first time I did a one handed unhook of a bra at a basement party in the 7th grade!"
Thanks for attacking me so quickly!
pres
Just Me
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I just want to remind everyone that this comapny posts PR's every day of the week. There has been more posts on Tues, but not by much...so we could see a post any time....even on monday...
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I just want to remind everyone that this comapny posts PR's every day of the week. There has been more posts on Tues, but not by much...so we could see a post any time....even on monday...
Good point about the posts. I am sure that we will see these within the next couple of day but do not get discouraged if they are not here on Monday and then Tuesday. I do believe that prior to the news we will see a climb in the value day by day as we are having more and more people investing from other boards.
I try to keep the price up with my bidding but in actuallity when the MM's deceide to make moves they will do so. I can only influnce when they are not sure which way they are going to turn.
With all this new money comming in from the new shareholders then there is no way but up for the price to go as the volume climbs.
We will see the walk up from day to day and then blow the MM's away with the explosion from the news.
Hold on to your shares tight because we are in for a thrilling ride
I am expecting a PR about the website first, maybe with the name change the same time...
When do the MM have to cover their short's...is it the same day the name change takes effect?
quote:
Originally posted by JustMe:
I was going to go out today,and check out the NetFlix site here in Minneapolis. Do you guys still want me to go, or do we already have a clear enough picture of their opperation? I do have a digital camera, and will take pics if anyone is still interested.
Just let me know.Just Me
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
I don't think you need to drive to NetFlix's place...I think we already have a good understanding of what it look likes.I am expecting a PR about the website first, maybe with the name change the same time...
When do the MM have to cover their short's...is it the same day the name change takes effect?
I tried to email you...did it come through? If not, drop me an email and maybe we can develop the idea before posting a thread?
psupens661 @ yahoo.com
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Not on this thread, my suggestion is to start looking for a new "unpolished gem", something that has real potential- it may be hard to find, but they are out there
[This message has been edited by PSU90 (edited January 03, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Magoo, where are you exactly in WA? I'm in Bellevue. We have a little snow flurry but it's not too bad! Cheers!
I am in Blaine just north of Bellingham
Blaine is the border crossing town into Canada off I-5 I am probably just over an hour drive from Bellevue
Walt
Here it's icy, not much snow. Yesterday I witnessed first hand the Milk truck flipping in Seattle when I was going into work. There was ice cream everywhere on the ground!
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
I am in Blaine just north of Bellingham
Blaine is the border crossing town into Canada off I-5 I am probably just over an hour drive from Bellevue
quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
Magoo, I am due south in Oregon. We are having some nasty weather here too. Snow, ice, and more snow and ice. I live Albany, 25 miles south of Salem, which is where I work. My commute for the past few days has been interesting, to say the least.Walt
quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
Magoo, I am due south in Oregon. We are having some nasty weather here too. Snow, ice, and more snow and ice. I live Albany, 25 miles south of Salem, which is where I work. My commute for the past few days has been interesting, to say the least.Walt
Forget this cold weather
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by newstockpicker:
[b]Magoo, I am due south in Oregon. We are having some nasty weather here too. Snow, ice, and more snow and ice. I live Albany, 25 miles south of Salem, which is where I work. My commute for the past few days has been interesting, to say the least.Walt
Forget this cold weather
[/B][/QUOTE]
Sounds great to me! I went to Puerto Vallarta back in '93 on my honeymoon. Would love to go back in style!!
Walt
quote:
Originally posted by JustMe:
Minnesota here. I'd trade winters with you guys anyday. Spent three weeks in Kauai in Novemer. It sure was hard to come back....lol
I know what you meen. I was raised in San Diego from age three to about 38. I grew up on a surfboard so I guess it is all what you get use to.
pres
up from 160,000 something!
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Traffic Rank for veegeez.com: 158,457up from 160,000 something!
quote:
Originally posted by presumptuous:
I'm the foreigner... Belgium... but also snow over here :-)pres
Snow is pretty much the same everywhere white and cold.
Maybe we should start a PGHI club. If you make a good amount of cash in the stock consider a PGHI family reunion of some sort.
I probably took your comment about the site the wrong way.Didn't mean to offend you sorry if it came off like that.
TRSTURGUT-18
quote:
Originally posted by kcbudman:
also, number one spot in Yahoo search for video game rentals:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=videogame+rentals&ei=UTF-8&fr=fp-tab-web-t&cop=mss&ta b=
Thanks for all your work and insight.
By the way, to find jems like this is why I came to this board. After I realized I was going to hit hith PRVH I wanted help finding others. I'm willing to put time into the discovery, although being a parent my time is limited, thus the very late and consice posts sometimes.
dz
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
IDNW blasted off the day before it changed- and I believe tommy said they need to cover the shorts before the name change. From my holdings, when a name change happens you get notice before hand, but not much notice.
het heeft bij u ook gesneeuwd.
Fijn om te weten dat er nog Belgskes hier aanwezig zijn.
Sorry guys, I had to say hi to my belgian collegue.
quote:
Originally posted by presumptuous:
I'm the foreigner... Belgium... but also snow over here :-)pres
would you mail me please...
presumptuous@pandora.be
Everybody can off course :-)
pres
Funny how the world shrinks on these message boards!
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by Livios:
Allé,het heeft bij u ook gesneeuwd.
Fijn om te weten dat er nog Belgskes hier aanwezig zijn.Sorry guys, I had to say hi to my belgian collegue.
/
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Snow is pretty much the same everywhere white and cold.Maybe we should start a PGHI club. If you make a good amount of cash in the stock consider a PGHI family reunion of some sort.
pres
get ready for a very exciting week imo
pres
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by presumptuous:
We are back in business...get ready for a very exciting week imo
pres
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Lance
Been reading not posting.
I am on board.
Paul
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For the love of money is the root of all evil:....
Be a blessing to others.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
I confirm that statement. John Fleming is back and without going into details, this week is gonna rock!GLTA!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
You can't give us any details at all
For those of you who remember Chicago Joe....I think this type of teamwork is exactly what he envisioned when he started talk of multiple people doing the DD work on a stock.
Just before he quit posting here, he attempted to organize something along the lines of what developed here. Some thought it was great.... others blasted him for it. It became a hot issue and CJ stopped posting. A huge loss for the board.
CJ....I know you still pop in and read the board (you even posted on the Christmas thread).......if you happen to read this, I hope you see that a group of dedicated on-line friends working together can succeed. PGHI is proof.....and I think it is going to make a lot of us wealthier (not just in the money sense) because of it!
I hope you see this and I hope you decide to post more often!
PSU
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
You gotta love that....We were here from the start but now were the last to know....
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 03, 2004).]
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by Anna:
Tommy & Pres - okay you can't reveal info, I get that. But, you are saying that you have had communications with company, is that correct?
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Sorry, some things cannot be posted publicly, an MSN board was shut down for doing that. Patience my friend!GLTA!
Recently I've been dreading the weekends, because I have to wait till monday to trade. Tonight I'm taking back my Saturday night and leaving the DD on the back burner for a change- I suggest many of you do the same, we're going to have one hell of a week! Great work guys and gals.
That should be one target area IMO.
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Anyone have any new marketing ideas for VeeGeeZ?Recently I've been dreading the weekends, because I have to wait till monday to trade. Tonight I'm taking back my Saturday night and leaving the DD on the back burner for a change- I suggest many of you do the same, we're going to have one hell of a week! Great work guys and gals.
j160e
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Anyone have any new marketing ideas for VeeGeeZ?Recently I've been dreading the weekends, because I have to wait till monday to trade. Tonight I'm taking back my Saturday night and leaving the DD on the back burner for a change- I suggest many of you do the same, we're going to have one hell of a week! Great work guys and gals.
Hold strong and don't let the MM's shake you out.
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
BetNitAll and Anna, the CEO is very friendly and informative, email him yourself (ceo@pghi.biz) to ask him questions, but don't post his replies here or on any message board.GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Anyone have any new marketing ideas for VeeGeeZ?Recently I've been dreading the weekends, because I have to wait till monday to trade. Tonight I'm taking back my Saturday night and leaving the DD on the back burner for a change- I suggest many of you do the same, we're going to have one hell of a week! Great work guys and gals.
I emailed Mr. Fleming some ideas about a month ago. But here's a new one. When I go to the movies they have previews of upcoming movies and even new VIDEOGAMES! How about a movie theater ad for VeeGeez! The theater is prime for advertising
I've suggested prizes on the VeeGeez website, such as DJ equipment, game systems, games, T.V.'s, stereo's, etc. to be given once a month.
If he gets into movie DVD's I suggested a special movie nite package... but I left that idea with the CEO. I don't want NetFlix to use it.
How about a VeeGeez sticker? We can stick that thing all over the place!
VeeGeez should have an official T-shirt!
VeeGeez should donate a small % of proceeds/profits to a BIG cause... cancer research, AIDS research, college fund, etc.. Giving gets noticed... and builds good karma too.
There's a few ideas.
I have picked up a couple of other partners in my group and I believe that the price is going up during the day and will boom with any news. Since these people are new to my group I will need to grap their shares at a fair price for them. The good thing is that you should see the volume go up which should also start pushing the price.
I do have some personal funds available however I do not think I need to play any more games with the MM's. If the priceing dose slip very far then I will tap into these funds and do some damage.
Since we will have the shares we want then I will be looking into the PPM shares as those shares will benifit the company directly and are going to tied to the longer term.
Thought I should let the regulars know this as my buying pattern is going to change a bit and might have a effect on the market on Monday
Thanks for all your help.
Ron B
I don't know what will happen monday though, not sure if we have strong support @ 0.05 yet since we are at 0.049, or if the price will dip back down to 0.045
But there is also the possibility of news tuesday, and you usually buy on a rumor and sell on news, so I would watch what happens monday morning and buy sometime after noon.
It also depends on your personallity, will you kick yourself in the afternoon if you bought in early monday @ 0.049 and it drops to 0.045, if so, then wait till noon, if not, then just buy in and come back in 3 months to a year and be very happy!
quote:
Originally posted by makinmoney04:
I have been slowly working my way into the stock market. Do you feel that this would be a strong buy for me?? If so would monday morning be the best time to purchase?
79.36% of games in stock
right now!
61.18% of new releases in
stock right now!
quote:
Originally posted by makinmoney04:
I have been slowly working my way into the stock market. Do you feel that this would be a strong buy for me?? If so would monday morning be the best time to purchase?
This is a question which nobody will have a good answer for. In general there has been a upward trend for the price which you can get in at. However when it goes up quickly it usually comes back bown to reasonably close or below the first price of the morning. There has been a very large amount of new interest in the stock which I believe will increase the volume of shares and typically will drive the price up.
I personally am going to be buying a good amount of shares but will do it after I get into work which will be a couple of hours into the tradeing day.
Guess my advise is look in the morning and see if the price seems to be what you want then purchase. If it runs up fast then let it peak and come down a bit and don't try to chase after it. However if it runs due to a news release then buy where you can.
Guru please answer me.
Thanks
SCS
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
I confirm that statement. John Fleming is back and without going into details, this week is gonna rock!GLTA!
This stock is so hot that I bet on the gap up!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by scs005:
I have 5k in hand.
Do I have still time to get more pGHI.Guru please answer me.
Thanks
SCS
Walt
quote:
Originally posted by presumptuous:
Has anyone heard something from our CEO since he is back in business? I sent him an email, but haven't gotten a reply...pres
Walt
I know you guys are the ones that give the stock tips, but I thought you might like to hear about this one:
PGHI.OB
Research will show that they are ready to break out and move steeply higher over the next few days to weeks. The company is the next Netflix ... they rent video games and will be getting into the DVD rental business in the near future. In light of that, they are changing their name to GAMESNFLIX and will also be changing their ticker symbol, which is significant at this point, as the SEC rule states that there can be no shorts on a stock when it changes ticker symbols. The Market Makers are shorting this stock and have been controling the price for quite a while, but that is about to change. This stock has tripled in price in the past few days, on NO NEWS, in spite of the MM's doing their best to hold prices down and wring as many shares from weak hands as they can. PR's will be coming soon and that, coupled with the other things I have mentioned, will make this stock move up quickly.
Check out this link to a thread on Allstocks.com:
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/002524.html
It has all the Due Dilligence you could ever ask for on a stock.
Date Open High Low Last Change Volume % Change
01/02/04 0.04 0.06 0.04 0.05 +0.01 11701899 +13.95%
Composite Indicator
Trend Spotter (TM) Buy
Short Term Indicators
7 Day Average Directional Indicator Buy
10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Buy
20 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
20 Day Bollinger Bands Buy
Short Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
20-Day Average Volume - 7079860
Medium Term Indicators
40 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
50 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
50 Day Parabolic Time/Price Buy
Medium Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
50-Day Average Volume - 11862310
Long Term Indicators
60 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
100 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
Long Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
100-Day Average Volume - 8199104
Overall Average: 100% - Buy
Price Support Pivot Point Resistance
0.05 0.03 0.05 0.07
quote:
Originally posted by presumptuous:
Livios,would you mail me please...
presumptuous@pandora.be
Everybody can off course :-)
pres
:-)
pres
quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
This is a copy of an email I sent to Peter Leeds.com ... I am a member of his Stock Picks. I figured if he sees what we have seen, he might like it well enough to feature it on his site.Walt
I know you guys are the ones that give the stock tips, but I thought you might like to hear about this one:PGHI.OB
Research will show that they are ready to break out and move steeply higher over the next few days to weeks. The company is the next Netflix ... they rent video games and will be getting into the DVD rental business in the near future. In light of that, they are changing their name to GAMESNFLIX and will also be changing their ticker symbol, which is significant at this point, as the SEC rule states that there can be no shorts on a stock when it changes ticker symbols. The Market Makers are shorting this stock and have been controling the price for quite a while, but that is about to change. This stock has tripled in price in the past few days, on NO NEWS, in spite of the MM's doing their best to hold prices down and wring as many shares from weak hands as they can. PR's will be coming soon and that, coupled with the other things I have mentioned, will make this stock move up quickly.
Check out this link to a thread on Allstocks.com:
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/002524.html
It has all the Due Dilligence you could ever ask for on a stock.
Date Open High Low Last Change Volume % Change
01/02/04 0.04 0.06 0.04 0.05 +0.01 11701899 +13.95%Composite Indicator
Trend Spotter (TM) Buy
Short Term Indicators
7 Day Average Directional Indicator Buy
10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Buy
20 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
20 Day Bollinger Bands Buy
Short Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
20-Day Average Volume - 7079860
Medium Term Indicators
40 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
50 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
50 Day Parabolic Time/Price Buy
Medium Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
50-Day Average Volume - 11862310
Long Term Indicators
60 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
100 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
Long Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
100-Day Average Volume - 8199104
Overall Average: 100% - Buy
Price Support Pivot Point Resistance
0.05 0.03 0.05 0.07
quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
This is a copy of an email I sent to Peter Leeds.com ... I am a member of his Stock Picks. I figured if he sees what we have seen, he might like it well enough to feature it on his site.Walt
I know you guys are the ones that give the stock tips, but I thought you might like to hear about this one:PGHI.OB
Research will show that they are ready to break out and move steeply higher over the next few days to weeks. The company is the next Netflix ... they rent video games and will be getting into the DVD rental business in the near future. In light of that, they are changing their name to GAMESNFLIX and will also be changing their ticker symbol, which is significant at this point, as the SEC rule states that there can be no shorts on a stock when it changes ticker symbols. The Market Makers are shorting this stock and have been controling the price for quite a while, but that is about to change. This stock has tripled in price in the past few days, on NO NEWS, in spite of the MM's doing their best to hold prices down and wring as many shares from weak hands as they can. PR's will be coming soon and that, coupled with the other things I have mentioned, will make this stock move up quickly.
Check out this link to a thread on Allstocks.com:
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/002524.html
It has all the Due Dilligence you could ever ask for on a stock.
Date Open High Low Last Change Volume % Change
01/02/04 0.04 0.06 0.04 0.05 +0.01 11701899 +13.95%Composite Indicator
Trend Spotter (TM) Buy
Short Term Indicators
7 Day Average Directional Indicator Buy
10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Buy
20 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
20 Day Bollinger Bands Buy
Short Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
20-Day Average Volume - 7079860
Medium Term Indicators
40 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
50 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
50 Day Parabolic Time/Price Buy
Medium Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
50-Day Average Volume - 11862310
Long Term Indicators
60 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
100 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
Long Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
100-Day Average Volume - 8199104
Overall Average: 100% - Buy
Price Support Pivot Point Resistance
0.05 0.03 0.05 0.07
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DIANA
pres
Wow, This thread is on "Cruise Control" now. I use to monitor this thread every hour of every day to try and insure that we continued to encourage good DD and "Happy" interaction... This certainly has taken leaps and bounds from December 16th... the day this particular thread started. Its great to see so many investors work together as a team... with unbelievably creative ideas and enthusiasm. Congratulations to all investors here. Let's keep up the good work!
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
no snow here. if your bones get too cold and you have puerto vallarta in mind, come join the fun. i've been having too much. slept 11 hours last night.
seriously, for those of you who keep your investment portfolios balanced, mexico is a new investment frontier (well not totally new). my friends and i have done VERY well here taking advantage of the new laws and almost endless opportunity available in a country that is catching up with the rest of the modern world.
uncle milty
quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
This is a copy of an email I sent to Peter Leeds.com ... I am a member of his Stock Picks. I figured if he sees what we have seen, he might like it well enough to feature it on his site.Walt
I know you guys are the ones that give the stock tips, but I thought you might like to hear about this one:PGHI.OB
Research will show that they are ready to break out and move steeply higher over the next few days to weeks. The company is the next Netflix ... they rent video games and will be getting into the DVD rental business in the near future. In light of that, they are changing their name to GAMESNFLIX and will also be changing their ticker symbol, which is significant at this point, as the SEC rule states that there can be no shorts on a stock when it changes ticker symbols. The Market Makers are shorting this stock and have been controling the price for quite a while, but that is about to change. This stock has tripled in price in the past few days, on NO NEWS, in spite of the MM's doing their best to hold prices down and wring as many shares from weak hands as they can. PR's will be coming soon and that, coupled with the other things I have mentioned, will make this stock move up quickly.
Check out this link to a thread on Allstocks.com:
http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/Forum8/HTML/002524.html
It has all the Due Dilligence you could ever ask for on a stock.
Date Open High Low Last Change Volume % Change
01/02/04 0.04 0.06 0.04 0.05 +0.01 11701899 +13.95%Composite Indicator
Trend Spotter (TM) Buy
Short Term Indicators
7 Day Average Directional Indicator Buy
10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Buy
20 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
20 Day Bollinger Bands Buy
Short Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
20-Day Average Volume - 7079860
Medium Term Indicators
40 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
50 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
50 Day Parabolic Time/Price Buy
Medium Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
50-Day Average Volume - 11862310
Long Term Indicators
60 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
100 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
Long Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
100-Day Average Volume - 8199104
Overall Average: 100% - Buy
Price Support Pivot Point Resistance
0.05 0.03 0.05 0.07
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow:
Cruise Control:Wow, This thread is on "Cruise Control" now. I use to monitor this thread every hour of every day to try and insure that we continued to encourage good DD and "Happy" interaction... This certainly has taken leaps and bounds from December 16th... the day this particular thread started. Its great to see so many investors work together as a team... with unbelievably creative ideas and enthusiasm. Congratulations to all investors here. Let's keep up the good work!
*** Future's so Bright ***mach
It's sunday, which for me is hardcore DD day! I have a list of 25 or so companies, all under .001- which I will dig through and hopefully come up with something shiney. Mach, PSU, you will hear of my findings but it may take days.
quote:
Originally posted by old mullet:
magoo, tommy and others,no snow here. if your bones get too cold and you have puerto vallarta in mind, come join the fun. i've been having too much. slept 11 hours last night.
seriously, for those of you who keep your investment portfolios balanced, mexico is a new investment frontier (well not totally new). my friends and i have done VERY well here taking advantage of the new laws and almost endless opportunity available in a country that is catching up with the rest of the modern world.
uncle milty
Uncle Milty
Just wanted to say that I am new to the all stock group but have been readung your posts for a couple of months now. I have thought about spending some time in Mexico as I hope to retire in ther next couple of years.
I was raised in San Diego and have spent some time in Mexico on fishing and surfing trips in my younger years. Also have friends the head south for the winter months and have homes there.
In any case just thought I would take the time to introduce myself and let you now that I probably will end up in your neck of the woods and might want to look you up some day.
Thanks for all your interesting posts as I have learned alot from you.
Ron B.
miltymullet@yahoo.com
to all the people on this thread: this is how it is supposed to work. more than investors could learn that cyberspace can be used for cooperation and common good. MACH thanks for planting the seed for this great thread. thanks to all who have watered and weeded it and have avoided stomping on it. the human experiment showing it's potential.
and go mars rover!!! are they selling lots yet?? LOL
uncle milty
Thanks-SCS
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Thinking back to the hardcore DD that was done as we went through the consolidation phase, brings a smile to my face. Oh remember those 2's!It's sunday, which for me is hardcore DD day! I have a list of 25 or so companies, all under .001- which I will dig through and hopefully come up with something shiney. Mach, PSU, you will hear of my findings but it may take days.
quote:
Originally posted by scs005:
cabbage could u please mail me ur finding to scs005@hotmail.com.Thanks-SCS
rudy.vercruysse@skynet.be
That's 4 of us (that I know of)
Als er nog belgen zijn, join the party!!
always interested:
presumptuous@pandora.be
Machtabow, you also have mail...
pres
quote:
Originally posted by old mullet:
ron, thanks, and look me up if you are headed this way. if you like an active retirement (i quit real work at 44), this area is hard to beat. with all of modern communication through computers the third world is fast becoming the first choice for early retirement. i actually have never been busier in my entire life.miltymullet@yahoo.com
Milty
I will look you up when I have more definate plans to be in your neighborhood. Mexico is one of my favorite picks for a vacation so it may be sooner than you know.
If you would like to e-mail me at any time I am at rbvb2000@aol.com.
Thanks and i will let you know if I will be in your area on vacation.
to all the people on this thread: this is how it is supposed to work. more than investors could learn that cyberspace can be used for cooperation and common good. MACH thanks for planting the seed for this great thread. thanks to all who have watered and weeded it and have avoided stomping on it. the human experiment showing it's potential.
and go mars rover!!! are they selling lots yet?? LOL
uncle milty
fzhowandai@yahoo.com
or/either
fzhowandai2@hotmail.com
thanks guys...zo...
off to the sunday gig,
uncle milty
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Just to let you know that I can confirm also that John is back in town. He has about 600 email messages to return so he will get to you eventually
I would like to reconfirm this point. John Flemming is back and is taking care of bussiness.
If that is what you are concerned about then I would suggest not to bother with an e-mail unless you have other concerns. He is very busy now trying to get back to everyone and conduct the bussiness which we are all interested in.
I believe we should see some good movement this week.
Good luck to all
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
This is really weird!
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2003/12/prweb95567.htm
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by stockguyDD:
what is the website going to be... http://www.gameznflix.com/ or www.veegeez.com, i was confused when i saw cabbages post..
Double L
If you go back and read both threads (I assume you have not) I am confident you will see that this is not a pump and dump stock. Only time will tell for sure...but I will say that this stock will have more then a %20-%30 gain. I remember a guy that got out with his %20 gain around not too long ago....around 3 cents if I remember correctly. Now its at almost 5 cents. I hope you stick around for atleast a dime...or atleast until the news comes out about the name change and news about new site. Give it a couple of weeks.....I had your concerns too, but decided to hold for a little while. Lets see where we end up after the news.
quote:
Originally posted by DOUBLE L:
Here it is the first neg. post. I was reading a penny stock book on vac.This stock has the classic (pump and dump)look to it. I could have taken the pump and dump chapter out and inserted this in.It would have been the same.I hope everyone makes money on it. I am also putting a buy in on mon.I think people can still make money on this stock. Just have to beat the dump if there is one. So new people be carefull. Someone losess as much money as someone gains.I will not be holding the bag. I will get my quick 30-40% and move on.I know people will say I am a basher(wrong) look at my old post.I am the only person to eat crow and say I eat crow on this board (nsdm). Still hanging on to it might come back.
Why don't you do us a favor and NOT buy this stock! LOL
quote:
Originally posted by DOUBLE L:
Here it is the first neg. post. I was reading a penny stock book on vac.This stock has the classic (pump and dump)look to it. I could have taken the pump and dump chapter out and inserted this in.It would have been the same.I hope everyone makes money on it. I am also putting a buy in on mon.I think people can still make money on this stock. Just have to beat the dump if there is one. So new people be carefull. Someone losess as much money as someone gains.I will not be holding the bag. I will get my quick 30-40% and move on.I know people will say I am a basher(wrong) look at my old post.I am the only person to eat crow and say I eat crow on this board (nsdm). Still hanging on to it might come back.
1. NFLX already experiance what this company will.
2. New Website (It' can't be a pump when the new website is ocming out and it is an official website)
3. CEO replies to all your emails. Have questions or doubts, email JOhn Fleming.
4. New Inventory storage building opened in Kentucky and was comfirmed by one of our members.
5. Only publc trading company that does this for Video games, and soon to add DVDs...Veegeez is already in business and publically trading through PGHI...
6. Symbol change(name change) has already been submitted...YOu can't pump offocial name change papers...Go check those out before you post something negative...
7. Read the last 48 pages and get an idea of what a pump and dump is not...
zo
quote:
Originally posted by DOUBLE L:
Here it is the first neg. post. I was reading a penny stock book on vac.This stock has the classic (pump and dump)look to it. I could have taken the pump and dump chapter out and inserted this in.It would have been the same.I hope everyone makes money on it. I am also putting a buy in on mon.I think people can still make money on this stock. Just have to beat the dump if there is one. So new people be carefull. Someone losess as much money as someone gains.I will not be holding the bag. I will get my quick 30-40% and move on.I know people will say I am a basher(wrong) look at my old post.I am the only person to eat crow and say I eat crow on this board (nsdm). Still hanging on to it might come back.
I believe everyone needs to choose their own path as to how they would like to invest in any stock. I do believe that anyone will make money in the way that Double L. is considering investing.
This thread has a lot of information on it and a massave amount of reports on the research done by it's members. That is what seperates this oppertunity from any pump and dump stock.
I would advise anyone to invest in PGHI but do your own research and make your own decisions as to how you would like to invest.
I personally do have a large investment in the stock and I am in it for the long run. Do your own research and deceide what you feel comfortable with.
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Well lets try and have a civil disscussion here...Double L
If you go back and read both threads (I assume you have not) I am confident you will see that this is not a pump and dump stock. Only time will tell for sure...but I will say that this stock will have more then a %20-%30 gain. I remember a guy that got out with his %20 gain around not too long ago....around 3 cents if I remember correctly. Now its at almost 5 cents. I hope you stick around for atleast a dime...or atleast until the news comes out about the name change and news about new site. Give it a couple of weeks.....I had your concerns too, but decided to hold for a little while. Lets see where we end up after the news.
quote:
Originally posted by DOUBLE L:
I have read all the post. Just warning new people to the possibility of it.I know you have been around a while by your name but all the new people have not.I am tring to get in at .042-.045 mon and will get out soon.Just the way it is.How can I feel bad with 30% in a few days?
I don't think we are going to fall below .045 on monday but you never know.
Atleast listen to my advise about keeping some free shares..you never know where you will end up in a year.
quote:
Originally posted by DOUBLE L:
I have read all the post. Just warning new people to the possibility of it.I know you have been around a while by your name but all the new people have not.I am tring to get in at .042-.045 mon and will get out soon.Just the way it is.How can I feel bad with 30% in a few days?
We should respect everyone's opinion but to say that PGHI is a pump-n-dump and without any real argument to back it up is just plainly ridiculous!
coolorangefreeze@yahoo.com
I have IM with yahoo too, under the same handle
Tomorrow should be very intense. I know this will be like a playoff game if things start to rise significantly. I'm ready!
Tommy, only time is going to tell where we are going to end up....the future looks bright, but some don't see it. Even I still have some reservations......lets just not turn into RB....and the only way we can stop it is if we don't respond negativly. Neg posts will show up, we can only control our responses to them.. Next week we should all make some good money....lets look forward to that
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
The problem with this DOUBLE L guy is not that he's giving his opinion but that he's qualifying PGHI as a pump-n-dump!We should respect everyone's opinion but to say that PGHI is a pump-n-dump and without any real argument to back it up is just plainly ridiculous!
Also from when this thread started we were @ a pps of 0.02, now we are @ ~0.05 ... If we were pumping and dumping this stock then we would have sold out by now. There is no logic behind statement. Please do some DD on this company and on 'pump and dumps' before you come in this thread and make false statements.
I know everyone has the right to their own opinion, but just make sure its an informed opinion when you share it.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
DOUBLE L, ok so out of curiosity, what do you consider NOT a pump-n-dump, or all stocks are pump-n-dumps to you?
One thing I would like to point out, which Double L has overlooked. Pump and Dump schemes require mass pumping, in most cases carried out by a financial firm with "stock pick newsletters" and excessive PR's from a company which was paid with shares of the pumped company. THIS IS NOT THE CASE with PGHI. There has been NO PUMPING WHATSOEVER. There has been months of research put in on messageboards, which does not have a pumping effect on the market, just gives a clearer outlook into the company.
He is has the right to voice his opinion but I can see that he has touched on some emotions as to his choice of words. I personally do not like to be accused of being a part of a pump and dump so it is best to let it go and time will be the cure for all.
Anyone who is smart enough to do their research then they will form their own opinion and deceide as to what is right for them.
[This message has been edited by DOUBLE L (edited January 04, 2004).]
Check It Out.
Walt
quote:
Originally posted by rajarammx:
I did not check whether somebody else posted this site but great DD here ...
http://stockskill.net/PGHI/Check It Out.
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
This is a great link!! I just forwarded it to PeterLeeds.com ... Talk about DD !!!! And if ANYONE out there thinks this is a P&D all they have to do is read the link!!Walt
And to Realityinc21, PLEASE feel free to copy and paste and send my original email out to anyone and everyone you can think of! The more the better!
Walt
MM Signals................................
a-Signals between MMs...
100 > I need shares
200 > I need shares badly but dont take it down to get em
300 > Take the price down to get shares....
400 > Trade it sideways based on Supply and Demand
500 > Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction
of the 500 trade. Sometimes -if in the middle -keep the price right where it is.
GLTA! Ken
quote:
Originally posted by millek:
Here it is. from a previous post.
MM code:MM Signals................................
a-Signals between MMs...
100 > I need shares
200 > I need shares badly but dont take it down to get em
300 > Take the price down to get shares....
400 > Trade it sideways based on Supply and Demand
500 > Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction
of the 500 trade. Sometimes -if in the middle -keep the price right where it is.GLTA! Ken
[This message has been edited by stockguyDD (edited January 04, 2004).]
Thanks
SCS005
quote:
Originally posted by stockguyDD:
found out that the 500 trade was from the MM EFGI at 2.03 which reccomends that the stock will gap up on monday
[This message has been edited by stockguyDD (edited January 04, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by scs005:
Where do you find MM signals.Thanks
SCS005
New Website?
Name Change?
Financials?
Move Completed?
If we get a PR do we/you still think the rise will be moderate or do we rocket to 0.10?
Thanks
SCS
quote:
Originally posted by stockguyDD:
the signals are posted on this thread... they r on this page.. am i misunderstanding your quustion.. if you want to know what website i found the signal for PGHI it is...http://www.otcbbpulse.com/cgi-bin/pulsequote.cgi?symbol=PGHI
This is my first chance at getting to my computer today.
Just wanted you all to know that I asked JF about Roy Vella's lease running out on his website. He emailed me back today and informed me that since he returned and got back online that he has inquired the same and expects an answer on Monday.
Personally, I am not worried. Holding for $10+
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Lance
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by Gonnaplode:
Anyone willing to venture a guess as to what PR comes out first and when?New Website?
Name Change?
Financials?
Move Completed?If we get a PR do we/you still think the rise will be moderate or do we rocket to 0.10?
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Gonnaplode, no offense but just wait and see, or email John if you want. We do DD's here, not crystal ball readings!GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Gonnaplode, no offense but just wait and see, or email John if you want. We do DD's here, not crystal ball readings!GLTA!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by stockguyDD:
is the ceo allowed to tell us the dates if we email and ask him about the pr dates... and i am also starting to think that u r the ceo himself or are a close friend of his
quote:
Originally posted by stockguyDD:
is the ceo allowed to tell us the dates if we email and ask him about the pr dates...
You are allowed to ask anything you would like. We already know the subject of the news which will be released. However I do not believe that he will give you a direct answer. That is the reason for a press release is so whatever the release is about it has been completed and put into place.. If you say that things such as legal filings will be done by a certin date and then it is held up. You will loose the confidence of your shareholders.
John Flemming has been forthright with all the e-mails but he will be careful as to not to leak out what he personally cannot control.
Hope this helps and I am not trying to answer for John Flemming.
quote:
Originally posted by diamond:
This is off topic but if you guys are looking for another company to buy into-my current favorite is APPI. I am a pharmacist and this company has an OTC product that works great to lower cholesterol and triglycerides. It's called LO-CHOL.
The chart looks great too. Nice steady price increases nothing spectacular. WE all know how important that is don't we.
By the way, when I said my current favorite, I obviously meant other than PGHI. This one has grand slam written all over it and I have as they say loaded the proverbial boat.
Good luck!!
quote:
Originally posted by diamond:
Hello everyone, can't wait til tomorrow!!
Quick question for the board, what, if any significance is there to NITE being at the highest bid and the lowest ask?? Just curious. From what I see on Level II it's up,up & away in the morning. Very little resistance up to 0.07 and beyond.
Remember this is virgin territory for this stock. Once it starts running no telling how far she will go. I'm just glad to be in for THE RIDE!!
Diamond
I have gained a couple of new partners in my group. Because of this i will be buying in the morning at a price that will be able to fill a good number of shares. Because of this i will have to compete with tyhe MM's for those shares.
I am going to put in my first orders after in about the first hour of tradeing unless we gap up by a good margin. Then I will need to fill asap. I believe that we will see good volume tomorrow and the price go up from there. I will be OK if I can complete all my buys hopefully under .055 or .056
I believe that we will see a new closeing high tomorrow as we have been stair stepping up the last few days and there seems to be alot more interest from other sources. This is all just my opinion.
Good luck to everybody and hang on for a wild ride
quote:
Originally posted by clay1999:
I'll need a pharmacist, doctor or something....I been having trouble sleeping at nights just thinking about this PGHI stock.... better days are coming
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Let not the rich man glory in his riches.
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by clay1999:
does anyone know how many outstanding shares there is?
I believe allstocks allows good and bad here, but luckily we haven't experienced the bad yet, and if we do it is usually dealt with a flood of DD which proves the basher wrong.
thats all
GO PGHI(GZNF..new ticker symbol, my guess)!
-moose-
quote:
Originally posted by phantom1107:
Stockguy,
RB provided all the necessary DD when it was needed early on. Investors who got in early on this stock benefited from the DD and info as to the potential in this market. RB provided THE forum early on, and to those who provided the vast amount of DD should feel good, despite the insults to the RB board. The problem with RB is that it allows "everything", good or bad. No need to bash the board. It serves it's purpose just as Allstocks serves it's purpose. IT IS Allstocks time to shine though, most will agree. BTW...GOOOOOOO LSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
I was checking out the jump in PPS that GLTB experienced when it changed its symbol from IDNW and I think that PGHI will experience an even bigger jump in my opinion because we only have 197M shares in the float as opposed to GLBT's 390M shares float.GLTA!
hehe... whoever managed to buy at those levels is one lucky b*sta*d!!!
pres
pres
Does UT stand for UpTick?
Paul
quote:
Originally posted by presumptuous:
Already an UT on the bid :-)pres
WESTON, FL, Jan. 05, 2004 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Watch Consolidated
Resources Group Inc. (OTC BB: CSRZ) CSRZ just announced big news! The Company
has been executing on its growth strategy, and it could be a huge gainer in
near-term trading! Other stock market standouts include:
Point Group Holdings Inc. (OTC BB: PGHI): Market Perform, even on 7 million
shares,
I see that the MM's are raiseing the bar early today so I am going to wait until it might come down a bit and then buy heavy. If it dose not come down after an hour or two then I will purchase at the price of the day. I am going in heavy today to complete my purchases of the common stock for my partners. Then I will looking at the PPM stock option.
Have a good PGHI day and I will be checking in from time to time
Magoo
NITE 0.054 5000 SCHB 0.055 5000
JEFF 0.05 5000 NITE 0.057 5000
WIEN 0.05 5000 SEAB 0.058 5000
SCHB 0.05 5000 HILL 0.06 5000
dz
/
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
I meant GLBT!
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Check this out!!NITE 0.054 5000 SCHB 0.055 5000
JEFF 0.05 5000 NITE 0.057 5000
WIEN 0.05 5000 SEAB 0.058 5000
SCHB 0.05 5000 HILL 0.06 5000
For all the new people out there the MM"S are the Market Makers who own the majority of the shares and try to control the price. They are willing to raise the buy and sell average in order to purchase as many shares as the can. These are large corporations and are professionals at the games they will play
These corporatins will make millions of dollars buying and selling in this way. They know the value here and that is why they are setting the bar so high this morning in order to get people to sell their shares.
My group personally holds 4.5 million shares and we are after another 1.5
Thought I would post this because we seem to have a good number of new investors comming on today and through the new couple of days.
Good Luck to all and I hope everything works out no matter how you plan to buy and sell PGHI
Magoo
[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 05, 2004).]
volume 1,480,614
059 is a false bottom, like to see some MM move their bids up
two bids at 59
two bids at 56
two @ 60
two @61
quote:
Originally posted by tigerontop:
I got mine!
Can't TOUCH mine.I'm veeryHappy.
I'll SELL some @ 4+
this should be interesting
and no sellers yet
Magoo, have you already bought?
pres
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quote:
Originally posted by presumptuous:
Ready to move in 0.06$ today imo...Magoo, have you already bought?
pres
Got 75000 so far
I will hold there and see if we come down. If not then I will raise the bid
I have enough shares but wouls like to do a little more damage to the MM's
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
LOL hope nobody checks why we are down 88%
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Got 75000 so farI will hold there and see if we come down. If not then I will raise the bid
I have enough shares but wouls like to do a little more damage to the MM's
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Got 75000 so farI will hold there and see if we come down. If not then I will raise the bid
I have enough shares but wouls like to do a little more damage to the MM's
Correction 750000 shares
quote:
Originally posted by kcbudman:
Too bad I couldnt get a buy order in at that price!!!
Wonder how Mav, Mach, Milty, etc. are doing?
quote:
Originally posted by EDDIE138301:
Holy smoke, why did it go down like that?
some fat fingered fool of a daytrader hit .0058 for a sell instead of .058
It really screws up the tech for the charts though
quote:
Originally posted by EDDIE138301:
Holy smoke, why did it go down like that?
The share price for Point Group Holdings Inc (OTCBB: PGHI) reached a new 52-week
high today, trading at $0.060, up $0.011 (22.45%) from its previous close of
$0.049.
The Company's previous 52-week high of $0.058 was set 3 days ago on January 02,
2004.
One year ago, the Company's shares closed at $0.001. The price has climbed more
than 5899 percent since then.
At the time of this alert, the stock had traded 1,661,200 shares via 57 trades,
76.54% below it's 20day average of 7,079,660 shares.
This new 52-week high currently puts the stock:
68.07% above its 20day Moving Average of $0.036
118.90% above its 50day Moving Average of $0.027
291.64% above its 100day Moving Average of $0.015
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
hey KC, good tp hear from ya.....were making some good money today..
The share price for Point Group Holdings Inc (OTCBB: PGHI) reached a new 52-week
high today, trading at $0.060, up $0.011 (22.45%) from its previous close of
$0.049.
The Company's previous 52-week high of $0.058 was set 3 days ago on January 02,
2004.
One year ago, the Company's shares closed at $0.001. The price has climbed more
than 5899 percent since then.
At the time of this alert, the stock had traded 1,661,200 shares via 57 trades,
76.54% below it's 20day average of 7,079,660 shares.
This new 52-week high currently puts the stock:
68.07% above its 20day Moving Average of $0.036
118.90% above its 50day Moving Average of $0.027
291.64% above its 100day Moving Average of $0.015
The Company last released news on August 14, 2003:
"Point Group Holdings, Incorporated's CEO/President and Dr. Michael Samuels of
Bio-Nutritional Products Development, Inc. Are Interviewed on Internet Radio by
WallStreetWorld.tv Media Group"
POINT GROUP HOLDINGS INC
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated is a holding company which, through its
subsidiaries, provides management services to businesses that have an operating
history or can substantiate future performance in their respective industries.
The Company participates in companies in various fields of business by providing
executive-level managerial assistance as well as arranging for and contributing
capital investment.
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quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Who the hell has the tubby fingers. This must drive Cabbage22 nuts
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Any one else see that sell go through at 059
at 10:52 for ZERO shares. Whats up with that
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Someone on the RB confirmed that GamezNFlix/Veegeez will be at the E3 Expo.GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Whats the E3 Expo
quote:
Originally posted by rde3:
They are not wanting to let me buy @ .056
I use Ameritrade... may try something else eventually.
quote:
Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Another dislike... I don't like the fact that if I sell a stock and then buy it back the same day I will be labeled a daytrader (BAD!)... or that if I use all my funds (on a trade) I have to wait 3 days for them to settle if I want to buy something else.I use Ameritrade... may try something else eventually.
I believe we've jumped by about a penny today... so far. Not bad!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by COOLORANGEFREEZE:
Nearing the 5 mil mark for vol.
*** Future's so Bright ***
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow:
Boy it was only two weeks ago... that we were @ .026 and the strong hands were buying more... the weak hands doing a little complaining... and now look. Wow! We've come a long way baby!
*** Future's so Bright ***
GL
P.S: Def 14C is around the corner..
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
fake "wall" @ .06? remember how quickly these fall
Good ride today everyone
quote:
Originally posted by rde3:
I finally got 76500 shares @ .056
go pghi!!!
I have noticed that when a Q might be added to a stock I was holding. I ASSUME it will be the same in this case.
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Will Ameritrade email me of the new name change before it takes affect or does it just happen....I thought I remeber cabbage saying that he got notified right before one of the stocks he owned had a name change
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Let not the rich man glory in his riches.
quote:
Originally posted by DOUBLE L:
I have read all the post. Just warning new people to the possibility of it.I know you have been around a while by your name but all the new people have not.I am tring to get in at .042-.045 mon and will get out soon.Just the way it is.How can I feel bad with 30% in a few days?
Bid ask
055 057
055 059
055 006
054 006
052 006
052 062
051 3at065
5at05
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[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 05, 2004).]
Is this guy for real? LOL
quote:
Originally posted by DOUBLE L:
Not in it did not drop. I could be wrong about it but I just do not like what I see. Waiting for a big drop now.If I am wrong I will have some crow with pghi on top. I will watch for a pull back.Looking at getting back in adot soon.
Seriously, don't worry, the Def. 14c is knocking on our doors very soon, check the SEC later on today!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
tommy, you think we will get a strong finish today. Only two MM until 06. Wouldn't that be great to close at or above the all time high
Bid ask
055 057
055 059
055 06
054 06
052 062
052 062
051 065
05 065
05 065
05 067
05 07
05 07
GL
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
BetNitAll, according to DOUBLE L this looks like a pump-n-dump so I don't know, maybe we'll close at 0.02 or something! LOLSeriously, don't worry, the Def. 14c is knocking on our doors very soon, check the SEC later on today!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by DOUBLE L:
Tommy,
Have u ever had a stock drop fast or is this your first stock. Look at fnix and nsdm ran good for a while and then the bottom falls out.This very well could not happen here. I just try to get in before the big run ups. Plenty of people will get caught short if it drops back down.I see 30% plays everywhere with little risk. I chose to go for them instead. U are up alot now but if I got in at .06 area will it be .12 in a week? or even .09. Just the way I trade not shooting for the sun just settling for the moon.
I expect it to show up late this evening or early tomorrow.
Any thoughts?
pres
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by presumptuous:
I expect the def14c to be filed today, but only to show up tomorrow. Isn't it so that West Coast wakes up later than East Coast? Aren't the lawyers at the West Coast? Could it be they are shaving themselves just now...???I expect it to show up late this evening or early tomorrow.
Any thoughts?
pres
*** Future's so Bright ***
I have gotten my shares at about an average of .056
I am waiting for us to push up to .06 and then I have other investors which will get in at that point.
Good luck to everyone
We all have our reasons for how we trade and I do respect anyone in this stock for buying and tradeing that fits their own style.
Good Luck to all
I am in for the long run with a large amount of share which the MM's cannot touch
when it hits 0.06, you will start buying again?
I do not really understand, but fine with me :-)
pres
Sorry Degs <G>!
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GL
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Well....I've been tied up with work most of the day. Looks like its been fun so far! would be nice to see an end of the day run to close at .06 or above. The MM's usually try to shake at the end of the day though.
GL
quote:
Originally posted by kt325ci:
This just appeared on my news ticker: http://xml.10kwizard.com/filing_raw.php?repo=tenk&ipage=2502708
I only wish I got in when you did, but I could still make a good deal off this too (from my perspective, I'm only 21!).
quote:
Originally posted by Degs:
man still no fill and i'm in at the ask..GRRRRR
Let's see what happens
so go for it magoo go get em....lol
quote:
Originally posted by kcbudman:
ask is at .06 now
I have a large order in at .058
Hopefully that will freeze the price from slipping any further than that.
Good Luck KC
Bid
AGIS, SCHB, NITE @ .057
Ask
SCHB @ .059
NITE, GVRC @ .06
quote:
Originally posted by kt325ci:
Level 2 quotesBid
AGIS, SCHB, NITE @ .057Ask
SCHB @ .059
NITE, GVRC @ .06
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
And could someone post some Level II quotes.....the network I am using blocks JAVA
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Right now its .057x.058 AGIS and NITE at the bid and SCHB at the ask.
AGIS and HILL at BID
SCHB, CRWN, NITE, and GVRC at ASK
Edit...as I typed, AGIS and HILL at .057
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quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
DEF 14C IS OUT
New alert at Knobias
DEF 14C: PGHI Majority Consents; Change Corporate Name
Monday , January 05, 2004 15:32 ET
Point Group Holdings Inc (OTCBB: PGHI)in a DEF 14C filed today, reported that the Company intends to take the following action pursuant to the written consent of a majority of stockholders of the Company:
1. approve a proposal to amend the Articles of Incorporation of the Company to change the name of the Company to "GamezNFlix, Inc."
The Company received the consent of a majority of the outstanding shares of Common Stock of the Company for this corporate action under a definitive Proxy Statement filed on November 20, 2003.
GL
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Update: .059x.06AGIS and HILL at BID
SCHB, CRWN, NITE, and GVRC at ASKEdit...as I typed, AGIS and HILL at .057
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quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Fran comes out of no where to bring the bid to 057
Are you today's Level2 commentator? -
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
yep....well, when I can
Excellent, try to be a little more expressive with your wording...LOL -
quote:
Originally posted by chrissy_a:
It will be nice to close at .06 tomorrow would be another big upday
ALRIGHT!!!!!!!!!
A nice Six Cents close and Twenty_Two percent gain for the day. I'll take that.
Bring on the Gameznflix, at least the new site! - Marty
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Lat minute buys to close at 06 GREAATTT!!!!!!!!
ALRIGHT!!!!!!!!!
GL
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Good Job all....A nice Six Cents close and Twenty_Two percent gain for the day. I'll take that.
Bring on the Gameznflix, at least the new site! - Marty
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow:
Whew!!!!!!!!! Another exciting day at PGHI. Anybody drooling! Betn! Your patience has been greatly rewarded. Your wife must be happy! mach
Mach, when are you going to be back to your regularly scheduled programing?
Tony
j160e
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by Tonyg032001:
This day has to be in the top 10 of great days for the past year.Mach, when are you going to be back to your regularly scheduled programing?
Tony
Now buckle up for the ride up with no shorts for the ticker change!
GLTA!
My entry point for PGHI is .02 and thank god for all the help on AllStocks from everybody!! You All ROCK!!!
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[This message has been edited by justplayin (edited January 05, 2004).]
0r are you talking about nother stock...???
pres
quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:
Mach, do you think .008 is a bad entry point. From the TA I think this is still good.
Thoughts??
[This message has been edited by machtabow (edited January 05, 2004).]
1. File a Prelim Proxy -- Done
2. Followed by a Definitive Proxy Filing -- Done
3. Followed by a Prelim Information Statement Filing -- Done
4. Followed by a Definitive Information Statement Filing -- Done
What's left:
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5. Followed by a mailing by our Transfer Agent to shareholders of record
6. Followed by the actual name change
7. Followed by Request for a new CUSIP#
8. Followed by a Request for a new trading symbol
9. Followed by the symbol being granted.
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Here's what's left to the name change. All of us shareholders of record of Oct 31st will receive a confirmation letter from the SEC to confirm the name change. Check your mail starting tomorrow!1. File a Prelim Proxy -- Done
2. Followed by a Definitive Proxy Filing -- Done
3. Followed by a Prelim Information Statement Filing -- Done
4. Followed by a Definitive Information Statement Filing -- DoneWhat's left:
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5. Followed by a mailing by our Transfer Agent to shareholders of record
6. Followed by the actual name change
7. Followed by Request for a new CUSIP#
8. Followed by a Request for a new trading symbol
9. Followed by the symbol being granted.
So in about 20 days or less, your shares will automatically be renamed with the new symbol overnight. I'm sure we'll have a PR saying all this soon, I'm just giving you a heads up.
GLTA!
Question: Why only "shareholders of record as of Oct 31" will get the letter? Is this just based on the roster they recieved as of the filing?
I'm assuming that those who bought after 10/31 will not get a letter but will have their shares automatically converted anyway.
Is that correct?
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Just got confirmation that the symbol will change in about 20 days. In the meantime shareholders of record as of Oct 31st will receive a letter from the SEC outlining the change process. Write all this info down as a reference.So in about 20 days or less, your shares will automatically be renamed with the new symbol overnight. I'm sure we'll have a PR saying all this soon, I'm just giving you a heads up.
GLTA!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by adrenalix:
Good day, guys. GREAT days to come!Question: Why only "shareholders of record as of Oct 31" will get the letter? Is this just based on the roster they recieved as of the filing?
I'm assuming that those who bought after 10/31 will not get a letter but will have their shares automatically converted anyway.
Is that correct?
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
one of my best days, all my stock is up, and ameritrade has to ruin it by taking 15 minutes to cancel an order- then doesnt put through my new order, as other people get filled at my price. Mother f-ing ameritrade is the worst. I want Datek back.
And the funny part is that it's not even over yet with PGHI, so much more potential for this stock!GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by RedBullish:
Tommy, how does it feel to look at ONE of your stocks and see you are up $20,000 for the DAY?I only wish I got in when you did, but I could still make a good deal off this too (from my perspective, I'm only 21!).
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
RedBullish, yeah sometimes I have to take a break because the amount of money is just crazy! $20,000 in one day is what some people are able to save up in 3-5 years or more!GLTA!
Just Me
81.06% of games in stock
right now!
70.86% of new releases in
stock right now!
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Wow! Inventory went way up today, especially new releases...81.06% of games in stock
right now!
70.86% of new releases in
stock right now!
Hmmm, maybe in preparation of the new site release in the next 24hrs? -
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Wow! Inventory went way up today, especially new releases...81.06% of games in stock
right now!
70.86% of new releases in
stock right now!
How To Contact Us
Email: customersupport@veegeez.com
Toll Free: 1-866-VeeGeeZ
Fax: 1-866-VeeGeeZ
anyone see a PROBLEM with the contact info.. it tried to call them and ask about rental policy and i called the toll free line and got a fax dial tone... both numbers are the same.. so anyone that calls 2 speak 2 sum1 will just end up hearing a fax dial tone... anyone know wuts up with that?
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quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Hmmm, maybe in preparation of the new site release in the next 24hrs? -
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by stockguyDD:
rumor on the RB board is that veegeez is gonna rent porn DVDs... is it just stupid RB talk or a real possibility?
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
It's just crazy RB talk, the CEO denied that fact! lolGLTA!
Of course anyone can email me too, a lot of you already do!
quote:
Originally posted by stockguyDD:
tommy is there any way i can speak to you through email?
Sorry. We don’t have enough resources to provide what you require.
Thanks for Choosing VeeGeeZ.
Lance Wiseman
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC
.. that isnt a very encouraging email as a customer... hopefully with the new website they will be able to have a phone line that works and doesnt send you to a fax machine..
Really encouraging, this is down right ridiculous. I have sent in my reply to see what response I get. Will follow up. Thank you. -
quote:
Originally posted by stockguyDD:
this is the response i recieved from the customer support when i emailed them about the phone number problems... the resources in the email are a telephone line where i can speak to a representative in person,,Sorry. We don’t have enough resources to provide what you require.
Thanks for Choosing VeeGeeZ.
Lance Wiseman
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC.. that isnt a very encouraging email as a customer... hopefully with the new website they will be able to have a phone line that works and doesnt send you to a fax machine..
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Lance
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
"Sorry. We don’t have enough resources to provide what you require."Really encouraging, this is down right ridiculous. I have sent in my reply to see what response I get. Will follow up. Thank you. -
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Watching Level II there's a big wall at 0.06 on the ASK, let's see if we can bust through that wall tomorrow! A PR would be just perfect for that!GLTA!
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Lance
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
I hope they hold off the PRs until I buy more shares. I'm going all in tomorrow. Already have about 180K...going after another 100K
Holding for $10+
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Lance
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
I tell you what, if any of you are having any doubts about the company just talk to JF. He replies to emails very quickly and with good information.Holding for $10+
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
PR's are usually released at 6:30AM (EST).
quote:
Originally posted by j160e:
Yes, I just emailed him a question and was amazed to see a response within 5 minutes!
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
Call this # Tel: 888.542.6817
Is Point Group, Tennessee Office now considered center of operations for VG's, if this is the case the FAQ number should be changed. Right? - Marty
This is just the start of more to come. John Flemming is handleing the business of putting all the right moves into motion. We will hear from him with the press releases as he is able to release the information.
All this is being watched by others which are sitting on the fence and will be getting in as the parts of the puzzle fall into place.
I did purchase a boat load of shartes today and had a little fun with the MM's. I will always be around to be a thorn in their side. Maybe put in bid to try to stop any bluff the MM's throw at us. If they fill so be it but I am pretty much done with purchaseing the common stock now.
My focus is going to switch to the PPM stock or maybe in another avenue which might be benifical to the company.
Thanks to everyone in the PGHI family who has given me advise along the way.
Magoo
quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
I emailed him with 5 questions and received answers to all in exactly 4 minutes. That will certainly win my trust...especially when all answers are good
can anyone give me Mr. Flemmings email
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quote:
Originally posted by stockguyDD:
ignorant bliss. do u have an email where i can talk 2 u
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Lance
Why is my Liquidation Value $5,600, when my Portfolio Market Value is $6,700?
quote:
can anyone give me Mr. Flemmings email[This message has been edited by stockguyDD (edited January 05, 2004).][/B]
ceo@pghi.biz -
Don't worry, I am very aware of how busy they are and I try very hard not to bog them down with repetitive questions.
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Maybe you guys should settle down about the operations of VeeGeez right now, its in a transition phase and is never easy. JF is doing this with a limited staff. Most of the questions that you are asking can be found in this thread, I'm sure JF has better things to do than answer 20-30 repetitive emails every day. Leave the poor guy alone and do some DD- Just a thought
quote:
Originally posted by stockguyDD:
this is the response i recieved from the customer support when i emailed them about the phone number problems... the resources in the email are a telephone line where i can speak to a representative in person,,Sorry. We don’t have enough resources to provide what you require.
Thanks for Choosing VeeGeeZ.
Lance Wiseman
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC.. that isnt a very encouraging email as a customer... hopefully with the new website they will be able to have a phone line that works and doesnt send you to a fax machine..
quote:
Originally posted by nitroburn:
This is off topic, just wondering if someone could help.Why is my Liquidation Value $5,600, when my Portfolio Market Value is $6,700?
We're in very good hands, John is an amazing man and an amazing CEO.
GLTA!
Nitro;
As a friendly advice
Don't watch your values daily..( whether it's liquidation or market) It makes you weaker and more emotional..Just determine entry and exit points, and follow them..
I personally used to look at the daily portfolio value day in and day out;
I didn't see any benefit of doing that but wrong decisions!!
GL
P.S: in penny-land our #1 enemy is our emotions...
quote:
Originally posted by nitroburn:
Thanks, I should have known that. To me though it's a big diference.
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The present run actually began last Wednesday with a low that day of $0.039 ... Wednesday volume was 2,919,200, and Friday volume was much stronger with 11,701,900 shares traded ... Mondays' volume was 9,987,808 shares but the PPS jumped $0.011 which is why I stated earlier that Monday was a weak day for buyer interest. Last Friday's close at $0.049 represented a $0.006 gain over the Wednesday close of $0.043.
What that shows is - the MMs did not naked short Monday, but they did last Friday....
At 11:32:02am Friday PGHI topped out at $0.058. At 14:30:50pm Friday, the MMs started covering their shorts, and began moving the PPS down from $0.055 with a "Cue Signal" of 5000 shares at 14:42:48pm for $0.052. The "Cue Signal" was reaffirmed as to the amount of shares needed to cover all naked shorts with a "Cue Signal" at 14:49:35 and a trade of - 943 shares - at $0.053. The 943 = 943K shares were naked shorts, and "must be covered" before the market closed - regardless...!
When the 5000 share "Cue Signal" was sent at 14:42:48pm - 9,298,643 shares were traded at that specific point in time ... Follows is the trading record for last Friday beginning with that Cue Signal Trade. Read - Bottom to Top.
01/02/04 16:10:00 0.049 0.049 0.051 0
01/02/04 16:00:26 0.049 0.049 0.051 10000
01/02/04 16:00:13 0.049 0.049 0.051 1500
01/02/04 15:59:59 0.049 0.049 0.051 0
01/02/04 15:58:42 0.049 0.049 0.051 70500
01/02/04 15:58:30 0.05 0.049 0.05 50000
01/02/04 15:58:18 0.049 0.049 0.05 20000
01/02/04 15:58:06 0.05 0.049 0.05 0
01/02/04 15:57:16 0.05 0.049 0.05 10000
01/02/04 15:57:04 0.05 0.049 0.05 0
01/02/04 15:56:29 0.05 0.049 0.05 19000
01/02/04 15:56:17 0.05 0.049 0.05 15000
01/02/04 15:56:05 0.05 0.049 0.05 0
01/02/04 15:55:42 0.05 0.049 0.05 2500
01/02/04 15:55:29 0.049 0.049 0.05 0
01/02/04 15:54:42 0.049 0.049 0.05 40000
01/02/04 15:54:30 0.05 0.049 0.05 0
01/02/04 15:54:18 0.05 0.049 0.05 4000
01/02/04 15:54:06 0.05 0.049 0.05 0
01/02/04 15:53:31 0.05 0.049 0.05 27000
01/02/04 15:53:18 0.05 0.049 0.05 0
01/02/04 15:53:06 0.05 0.049 0.05 0
01/02/04 15:52:55 0.05 0.048 0.05 4000
01/02/04 15:52:43 0.05 0.048 0.05 0
01/02/04 15:52:18 0.05 0.048 0.05 120200
01/02/04 15:52:07 0.049 0.049 0.05 200000
01/02/04 15:51:55 0.05 0.049 0.05 0
01/02/04 15:49:56 0.05 0.049 0.05 0
01/02/04 15:49:43 0.05 0.049 0.051 0
01/02/04 15:48:08 0.05 0.049 0.051 30000
01/02/04 15:47:56 0.05 0.049 0.051 0
01/02/04 15:46:57 0.05 0.049 0.051 200000
01/02/04 15:46:44 0.05 0.049 0.051 0
01/02/04 15:40:04 0.05 0.049 0.051 9800
01/02/04 15:39:51 0.05 0.049 0.051 0
01/02/04 15:39:28 0.05 0.049 0.051 11000
01/02/04 15:39:16 0.05 0.049 0.051 0
01/02/04 15:38:04 0.05 0.049 0.051 10000
01/02/04 15:37:52 0.05 0.049 0.051 0
01/02/04 15:37:41 0.05 0.049 0.051 28500
01/02/04 15:37:28 0.05 0.049 0.051 0
01/02/04 15:37:17 0.05 0.049 0.051 36000
01/02/04 15:37:05 0.05 0.05 0.051 0
01/02/04 15:36:40 0.05 0.05 0.051 5000
01/02/04 15:36:29 0.051 0.05 0.051 0
01/02/04 15:35:52 0.051 0.05 0.051 0
01/02/04 15:35:40 0.051 0.05 0.052 0
01/02/04 15:35:28 0.051 0.051 0.052 146000
01/02/04 15:35:15 0.052 0.051 0.052 28978
01/02/04 15:35:03 0.052 0.051 0.052 83500
01/02/04 15:34:50 0.052 0.051 0.052 22200
01/02/04 15:34:38 0.051 0.051 0.052 0
01/02/04 15:34:25 0.051 0.051 0.052 5000
01/02/04 15:34:13 0.052 0.051 0.052 12500
01/02/04 15:34:01 0.051 0.051 0.052 12500
01/02/04 15:33:48 0.051 0.051 0.052 0
01/02/04 15:33:37 0.051 0.051 0.052 5000
01/02/04 15:33:25 0.052 0.051 0.052 0
01/02/04 15:33:14 0.052 0.051 0.052 31000
01/02/04 15:33:01 0.0528 0.051 0.052 0
01/02/04 15:32:48 0.0528 0.051 0.053 0
01/02/04 15:32:25 0.0528 0.051 0.053 310569
01/02/04 15:32:12 0.052 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 15:28:31 0.052 0.052 0.053 38000
01/02/04 15:28:17 0.052 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 15:20:15 0.052 0.052 0.053 10000
01/02/04 15:20:03 0.052 0.052 0.053 40000
01/02/04 15:19:51 0.053 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 15:17:40 0.053 0.052 0.053 5000
01/02/04 15:17:28 0.053 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 15:17:04 0.053 0.052 0.053 60000
01/02/04 15:16:52 0.053 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 15:16:41 0.053 0.052 0.053 50000
01/02/04 15:16:28 0.053 0.052 0.053 10000
01/02/04 15:16:16 0.052 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 15:14:41 0.052 0.052 0.053 50000
01/02/04 15:14:29 0.052 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 15:12:07 0.052 0.052 0.053 25000
01/02/04 15:11:54 0.053 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 15:11:18 0.053 0.052 0.053 25000
01/02/04 15:11:06 0.053 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 15:00:55 0.053 0.052 0.053 500
01/02/04 15:00:43 0.053 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 14:58:42 0.053 0.052 0.053 71000
01/02/04 14:58:30 0.052 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 14:56:54 0.052 0.052 0.053 25000
01/02/04 14:56:41 0.052 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 14:56:29 0.052 0.052 0.053 50000
01/02/04 14:56:17 0.053 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 14:54:28 0.053 0.052 0.053 8000
01/02/04 14:54:15 0.053 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 14:50:22 0.053 0.052 0.053 67500
01/02/04 14:50:11 0.053 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 14:49:46 0.053 0.052 0.053 7000
01/02/04 14:49:35 0.053 0.052 0.053 943
01/02/04 14:49:22 0.053 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 14:48:58 0.053 0.052 0.053 40113
01/02/04 14:48:47 0.052 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 14:47:58 0.052 0.052 0.053 50000
01/02/04 14:47:47 0.053 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 14:46:35 0.053 0.052 0.053 4000
01/02/04 14:46:23 0.053 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 14:43:48 0.053 0.052 0.053 40000
01/02/04 14:43:37 0.052 0.052 0.053 0
01/02/04 14:43:01 0.052 0.052 0.053 145000
01/02/04 14:42:48 0.052 0.052 0.053 5000
All of that also was the reason for the Gap up Monday over Fridays' close - With the symbol change coming, the MMs are not about to get caught having to cover above street price. The MMs have covered, and will not naked short again until after the symbol change ... at least not in significant numbers.
We need to take advantage of anything and everything possible; hence, this is a great opportunity for the PPS to move on up...! Then, after the symbol change ... John needs to hit three PRs ... randomly spaced to keep everyone guessing.
jwhite2913
Anyone else plan on buying tomorrow? if so what pps range do you think we will see.
I think we won't see anything below 0.058, so thats my buy price tomorrow. Any thoughts?
Good luck Moose!
quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
Thinking I might double my position tomorrow. Gonna watch morning activity and see where a good entry might be.Anyone else plan on buying tomorrow? if so what pps range do you think we will see.
I think we won't see anything below 0.058, so thats my buy price tomorrow. Any thoughts?
Tommy....thanks for bringing Jwhite's post over from RB. Great analysis. I've studied his posts in the past....he knows what he's talking about!
Looking forward to tomorrow! Good luck getting more shares in your range Moose!
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Moose if the "no short" scenario holds up, the PPS will blow pass 0.06 and never look back again. Please observe the movement early in the trading session and gage your bid accordingly.Good luck Moose!
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
A little night owl post here!Tommy....thanks for bringing Jwhite's post over from RB. Great analysis. I've studied his posts in the past....he knows what he's talking about!
Looking forward to tomorrow! Good luck getting more shares in your range Moose!
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by chrissy_a:
PGHI ON HOTSTOCKS SEE COMMENT 'NICE CHART'PGHI is really starting to get noticed
http://www.hotstockchat.com/stockpage.htm
Below is the response from VG's. I do not know what was asked from another poster to get the response "Sorry. We don’t have enough resources to provide what you require." just seems out of character. -
Anyway here is the email:
____________________________________________
On 1/5/04 5:53 PM, "Marty" <x1f2@########.net> wrote:
> Hello,
> I have a few questions to ask, but I would like to actually talk to
> someone. The number supplied on the FAQ never seems to have an answer
> except a fax machine. Could you supply an alternative number.
>
> Thank you for your time.
> Martin ######
.............................................
Martin,
The number you are calling is correct. There will be someone here tomorrow to answer the phone.
Thanks for Choosing VeeGeeZ.
Lance Wiseman
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC
____________________________________________
In all fairness to this poster, I believe that the question was legit, but the answer was also a valid response. Why I say this is I am sure with all the investor inquires the statement: "Sorry. We don’t have enough resources to provide what you require." is surely the truth and not in their schedule to deal with such questions.
I know as a subscriber to VG's, I have had almost no problems and the issue I had with a game was resolved swiftly and courteously.
This is just my experience with VeeGeeZ(VG)
-Marty
Walt
Walt
quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
Can someone tll me the best place to go for level 2? I will be going to a different shift at work starting Feb 1 and I want to pick up level 2 so I can keep an eye on things for myself. I don't mind having to pay for it, and I don't want to change brokers just to have level 2.Walt
KNOBIAS.com - Not the cheapest, but accurate and very good real time news. -
quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
Can someone tll me the best place to go for level 2? I will be going to a different shift at work starting Feb 1 and I want to pick up level 2 so I can keep an eye on things for myself. I don't mind having to pay for it, and I don't want to change brokers just to have level 2.Walt
quote:
Originally posted by stockguyDD:
expecting any PR 2day?
Does anyone consider a 3rd shipping ctr as another BIG step? Jkicos alluded to this over on RB. Call IR for info.
And a 3rd hub for distributorship? Need facts on that.
Hold long
quote:
Originally posted by stockguyDD:
expecting any PR 2day?
I was not planning to get any more today but if it stays around this price then I am going to call their bluff and raise the stakes for the MM's
quote:
Originally posted by drwright68:
newstock, what brokerage do you use? they should offer level 2
Power E*Trade
Market Trader....If you are an active Trader
9.99 comm
A great deal of support at these levels, 13 MM lined up from .05-.056 drooling for PGHI
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Now is the time to buy in if you are looking to pick up some more sharesI was not planning to get any more today but if it stays around this price then I am going to call their bluff and raise the stakes for the MM's
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
Now is the time to buy in if you are looking to pick up some more sharesI was not planning to get any more today but if it stays around this price then I amg going to call their bluff and raise the stakes for the MM's
Magoo, should we wait til around 10:00am before trying to buy more shares so as to see what it's going to do?
quote:
Originally posted by stockguyDD:
magoo if u dont mind me asking... how many shares do you have..you must need alot 2 compete with the MMs
I am oing to be putting a good amount of cash into the PPM shares but can also purchase more common stocks. I don't nessarly need the common stocks but I don't want the MM's to drive the price down to far.
Any bids I put in will be to bluff the MM's out of their position and if they fill any part of my bid then that is OK
quote:
Originally posted by rde3:
Magoo, should we wait til around 10:00am before trying to buy more shares so as to see what it's going to do?
I am not a very good one to ask any advise for. I,ll tell you what I will wait until 10:30 and then put in my order. That will give people a chance to buy. There is a good chance that the price will go up on it's own so you will nd to keep your eyes on it and deceide s the what you want to get in at.
I just don't want it to drop too far as I need to protect my own investment
GLTA!
Nite should switch to the top bid any minute
For the newbies:
If you bid at the MM's bid for more than 10,000 shares they are obligated to fill your order at that price before filling their own orders- most of the time they choose to up bid. As people choose to buy here at .053 in large sizes- SCHB will more than likely up bid to get around them
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
Looks like we're bottoming out- good consolidation move- weak hands doing some profit taking-Nite should switch to the top bid any minute
For the newbies:
If you bid at the MM's bid for more than 10,000 shares they are obligated to fill your order at that price before filling their own orders- most of the time they choose to up bid. As people choose to buy here at .053 in large sizes- SCHB will more than likely up bid to get around them
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Let not the rich man glory in his riches.
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow:
Testing!
Welcom back Mach!
pres
Hold Strong!!!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
People read this carefully! The symbol change is coming in less than 20 days, if we all hold ou shares VERY TIGHT, the MM's won't have the choice but to run-up the price to get people to sell so that they can cover because if they don't, it's a huge fine by the SEC!Hold Strong!!!
GLTA!
I will keep an eye on it and if we drop much then I will bluff the MM's back up.
These are good entry prices for anyone buying in and the weaker hands to sell off.
To any of the newer investors in these stocks the MM's are trying to purchase all they can so don't fall into their traps.
GLTA!
Have you managed to contact JF regarding your intered in the PPM and the amount you want to invest ? just curious as the amount you stated previously in the thread covers the entire funding JF was looking for
Chris
quote:
Originally posted by Magoo:
I am not a very good one to ask any advise for. I,ll tell you what I will wait until 10:30 and then put in my order. That will give people a chance to buy. There is a good chance that the price will go up on it's own so you will nd to keep your eyes on it and deceide s the what you want to get in at.I just don't want it to drop too far as I need to protect my own investment
It is interesting.....some of the MM's have moved back off of .06 and now the "wall" appears to be at .07. Several MM's scattered even higher. This give a view of the potential direction for PGHI. Very strong bid support at .05. There are 14 MM's between .05 and .55. Cabbage pointed out this strength earlier.
Hold strong and don't let them shake out your shares!
PSU
level II is opening just like it did when we ran right through the forties... and fifties... Hoping on news soon...
pres
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
For those of you who don't have level 2. Check out this link. It is delayed 15 minutes, but it shows every MM who is active in PGHI. Some Level 2's only show a portion of the MM's.
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/mp_quotes.asp?Quotes=PGHIIt is interesting.....some of the MM's have moved back off of .06 and now the "wall" appears to be at .07. Several MM's scattered even higher. This give a view of the potential direction for PGHI. Very strong bid support at .05. There are 14 MM's between .05 and .55. Cabbage pointed out this strength earlier.
Hold strong and don't let them shake out your shares!
PSU
Th
[This message has been edited by denzen (edited January 06, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by JEB7006:
I don't know if anyone else uses the level 2 provided by allstocks.com. I use it because scottrade does not have level 2 streamers...
Here's the link: http://www.allstocks.com/level2quotesotcbb.html
pres
Josh
quote:
Originally posted by white93860:
has anyone been watching the site statistics today? It says that they have had 1600+ visitors already. Thats usually what we have been averaging in a day. The last time we actually had that many visitors @ this time of day the pages viewed was closer to 10000. I don't like the ratio of less than 2 pages viewed to 1 visitor. I'm just wondering if they just forgot to reset the counter. Any Ideas? I hope they get rid of that counter on the new webpage!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
I'm curious as to how many shares we are controlling on this board. Also as to the affect we would have by tying up those shares by putting sell orders on those shares, at high prices of course, so they couldn't be used for shorting.
Is everyone willing to give an honest tally of shares?
I currently have 158,000 shares and am planning on adding 10,000 more today.
My sell order is at $10./ sh.
Thanks and GLTA!
dzTh
[This message has been edited by denzen (edited January 06, 2004).]
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
I'm curious as to how many shares we are controlling on this board. Also as to the affect we would have by tying up those shares by putting sell orders on those shares, at high prices of course, so they couldn't be used for shorting.
Is everyone willing to give an honest tally of shares?
I currently have 158,000 shares and am planning on adding 10,000 more today.
My sell order is at $10./ sh.
Thanks and GLTA!
dzTh
[This message has been edited by denzen (edited January 06, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
We're at the verge of breaking the .06 wall, if we do we'll run again!GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by kcbudman:
C'mon .061....lets get another consecutive 52 week high!!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by kcbudman:
C'mon .061....lets get another consecutive 52 week high!!!!!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by jr:
some guys in a chat room are saying the mm's dont have to cover their shorts during a name change because the cusip ID number for the stock stays the same. anybody have any thoughts/info on this?
quote:
Originally posted by chrissy_a:
Hi Magoo,Have you managed to contact JF regarding your intered in the PPM and the amount you want to invest ? just curious as the amount you stated previously in the thread covers the entire funding JF was looking for
Chris
Hi Chrissy
I am at work so I don't get a chance to check in but a couple of times a day
I did contact John and asked for the information. I did not tell him the amount which I am interested in because he dose not know me at this time and would olny cause some doubt.
I do have an intrest in investing the amount that he needs but it will depend on my partners as much as my decission.
We seem to have the MM's in check today and it has taken place without any influence on my part.
Good job everyone
Thanks
Magoo
quote:
Originally posted by ranger6922:
120k @.035
Its obvious the MM's were not prepared for this move, thats why they tried to shake it out yesterday at the close- foiled by the def14c. So they shook it out at the open today, and Magoo stuck it to them. Eventually they will let it run.
AGIS at the bid is good, strong MM, we need to stack those bids though
quote:
Originally posted by Degs:
CABBAGE:
Well looks like we may see .063 -.064 after all huh.
Whats your take on this?
Thanks dz
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
OK, with ten folks checked in so far we have 9,207,000. this includes 4,800,000 for Magoo.
Again I encourage everyone to put sell orders on thier shares at a price that is higher than you really want to cash out for, just to luck the shares up so they can,t be shorted against.Thanks dz
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
OK, with ten folks checked in so far we have 9,207,000. this includes 4,800,000 for Magoo.
Again I encourage everyone to put sell orders on thier shares at a price that is higher than you really want to cash out for, just to luck the shares up so they can,t be shorted against.Thanks dz
entry points: .024, .016, .022, .018, .019, .025 (in that order)
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
We need some bid support, I'd like to see nite move up from .053- or at least some stacked around .058 .059Its obvious the MM's were not prepared for this move, thats why they tried to shake it out yesterday at the close- foiled by the def14c. So they shook it out at the open today, and Magoo stuck it to them. Eventually they will let it run.
AGIS at the bid is good, strong MM, we need to stack those bids though
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
I'm curious as to how many shares we are controlling on this board. Also as to the affect we would have by tying up those shares by putting sell orders on those shares, at high prices of course, so they couldn't be used for shorting.
Is everyone willing to give an honest tally of shares?
I currently have 158,000 shares and am planning on adding 10,000 more today.
My sell order is at $10./ sh.
Thanks and GLTA!
dzTh
[This message has been edited by denzen (edited January 06, 2004).]
4.8 million Average .045
Holding extra long
/
quote:
Originally posted by fozzy:
But, wouldn't we WANT the MM's to short as much as possible right now, and hope they get caught with their pants down when the ticker symbol change finally does go through?
Let the technicals catch up with themselves this week, hope for a .07-.09 price when the change comes closer, THEN put the GTC orders in to drive it even further past dime land. If we do it too soon, we may make the MM's cover too quickly and run out of steam before .10 Just my guess though.Fozzy
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
Good point! That involves timing though.
I think they're under pressure now and why not keep it on?
dz/
quote:
Originally posted by machtabow:
Just posted a new pick. Thanks Guys! Go PGHI! mach
quote:
Originally posted by cabbage22:
With the bids stacked at .056, we have room to move up-
Walt
quote:
Originally posted by jr:
we finally hit .06 bid and someone unloads causing it to go down again that sucks
Not unusual. When you hit a round number, someone usually has a GTC sell set there. That's why it is always signficant to move past them!
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Ski
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
ok, with 23 check-ins we control 14,745,000 shares.
Thanks dz
*** Future's so Bright ***
mach
GLTA!
Dropped some deadweight weak hands today. Strong days ahead!!
Walt
Building a base takes days not hours
Don't get me wrong, IBZT sounds like a good company for the future, but at this point it's all hype and they have Billions in the O/S. Make your money there and get out quick!
GLTA!
Total 46000
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
now with 34 folks declaring #s we're at 16,347,150 shares.
any one else willing to say how many your holding?
thanks dz
thanks dz
/
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
now with 34 folks declaring #s we're at 16,347,150 shares.
any one else willing to say how many your holding?
thanks dz
i'm holding 1,700,000 pghi.
uncle milty
quote:
Originally posted by denzen:
I'm curious as to how many shares we are controlling on this board. Also as to the affect we would have by tying up those shares by putting sell orders on those shares, at high prices of course, so they couldn't be used for shorting.
Is everyone willing to give an honest tally of shares?
I currently have 158,000 shares and am planning on adding 10,000 more today.
My sell order is at $10./ sh.
Thanks and GLTA!
dzTh
[This message has been edited by denzen (edited January 06, 2004).]
With uncle milty's and others we are approaching 10%, the level at which you have to report that you are a majority shareholder!
I hold 150K, and like I said, LONG TERM
Looking foward to GamezNFlix Inc.
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10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Buy
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Short Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
20-Day Average Volume - 6856805
Medium Term Indicators
40 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy
50 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy
20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
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Medium Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy
50-Day Average Volume - 11134412
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float increased by 30 000 000 shares... And still the price went up. This means the shares were absorbed quickly. That is positive, but the dilution as a fact is lass positive. Well, let us hope the money will be well spend...
Good night,
pres
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
does this mean they are releasing some of those 100,000,000 shares into the market?
buck
My guess is that we'll go up because we have strong hands here plus the MM's are now careful not to be caught short before the symbol change. They've been trying to cover for a few days now and have had a hard time doing so. Once they all cover, they will not risk being short within the next 19 days so we will see good movement.
GLTA!
PSU
For those worried about dilution....just look at IBZT. They have a massive float and went from .002's to .07 in two weeks. If we get volume when the PR's hit, we will be flying!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
It's to pay for consultants and other services, it is their salary so it's normal. As we go along and make more money, they won't have to pay them with shares anymore. Patience, we are doing great here!GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by presumptuous:
HMMM,float increased by 30 000 000 shares... And still the price went up. This means the shares were absorbed quickly. That is positive, but the dilution as a fact is lass positive. Well, let us hope the money will be well spend...
Good night,
pres
perhaps i'm wrong here but those 30,000,000 shares were issued and outstanding on the "date of record" Oct 31st 2003. If true, they were gobbled up almost 2 moons ago. Please correct me if i'm wrong
Welcome aboard to all the new posters who see this (along with the lurkers)!
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by ron41:
Been reading since the first thread on PGHI but just now registered. Have 110000 @ .0366 Av.
Simply amazed at the knowledge gathered here.
The transfer agent reports an increase of 54M shares outstanding but only 24M in the float, which means that there's an extra 25M (54M - 24M) probably coming from the PPM.
Now if we take an average price of 0.02 for the PPM, 25M would give us $50,000 already raised and going directly into PGHI's account for them increase inventory and hummmm can anyone say DVD's coming up?
The best part is that those 25M from the PPM can not dilute the float because they can't be vested until at least a year from now.
We're in very good shape, hold tight and smell the roses!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by PSU90:
Tommy....where did the new float number come from? Also, did you get my email earlier today?PSU
For those worried about dilution....just look at IBZT. They have a massive float and went from .002's to .07 in two weeks. If we get volume when the PR's hit, we will be flying!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
PSU, I got that number from a dude who called the transfer agent today. However, do you want hear the good news?The transfer agent reports an increase of 54M shares outstanding but only 24M in the float, which means that there's an extra 25M (54M - 24M) probably coming from the PPM.
Now if we take an average price of 0.02 for the PPM, 25M would give us $50,000 already raised and going directly into PGHI's account for them increase inventory and hummmm can anyone say DVD's coming up?
The best part is that those 25M from the PPM can not dilute the float because they can't be vested until at least a year from now.
We're in very good shape, hold tight and smell the roses!
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by slotplayer:
perhaps i'm wrong here but those 30,000,000 shares were issued and outstanding on the "date of record" Oct 31st 2003. If true, they were gobbled up almost 2 moons ago. Please correct me if i'm wrong
Could some please explain me.
Thanks
SCS
quote:
Originally posted by Wooter:
I am in 400k @ .036????ish, still looking for more on the drops.
Smoke 'em if you got 'em!!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Oops, I meant 29M in the float and 54M in the O/S with 25M for the PPM. Damn calculator!GLTA!
If I remember right, the PR about the inventory increase back in October was the trigger for the first huge run from subpenny status. If we get another PR about more inventory increases.......that will get us major attention....and VOLUME!
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
PSU, I got that number from a dude who called the transfer agent today. However, do you want hear the good news?The transfer agent reports an increase of 54M shares outstanding but only 24M in the float, which means that there's an extra 25M (54M - 24M) probably coming from the PPM.
Now if we take an average price of 0.02 for the PPM, 25M would give us $50,000 already raised and going directly into PGHI's account for them increase inventory and hummmm can anyone say DVD's coming up?
The best part is that those 25M from the PPM can not dilute the float because they can't be vested until at least a year from now.
We're in very good shape, hold tight and smell the roses!
GLTA!
01.06.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 468,049,949
Float: 226,284,982
12.15.2003 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 440,799,949
Float: 197,361,116
Difference _____________
Authorized: Zero
Issued: +27,250,000
Float: +28,923,866
________________________
Per Interwest Transfer Company 01/06/2003
(801)277-1400
[This message has been edited by m_h13021 (edited January 06, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by Anna:
Tommy, send me your address and I'll send you a new calculator with my PGHI profits!
Check back on their October 20th news release.
http://www.pghi.biz/Oct20PGHIEquitilink.htm
MONDAY , OCTOBER 20, 2003 01:53 PM
SAN DIEGO, CA, Oct. 20, 2003 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Point Group Holdings, Incorporated (OTC BB: PGHI) is pleased to announce that it has retained Equitilink, LLC to lead its financial communications and shareholder relations campaign. A San Diego agency, Equitilink provides a variety of custom services for public companies seeking results-oriented investor relations programs. The selection of the investor relations firm follows several weeks of negotiations between the two companies.
"After several months of reviewing firms, PGHI is very pleased to have selected Equitilink to represent our company to the public," stated John Fleming, CEO/President. "Equitilink should play a large role in our company as we begin to bring Veegeez.com, our new subsidiary, to its fullest potential. We see Veegeez.com, an online game rental company, as becoming the market leader in game rentals just as Netflix.com is to the DVD rental industry."
"After reviewing the company's marketing plans, we believe Point Group Holdings is poised for strong growth," said Thomas N. Mahoney, Managing Director of Equitilink. "Due to the recent mention in The Wall Street Journal about September's record volume in OTC Bulletin Board stocks (October 10, 2003), we are anticipating even greater interest in our micro-cap clients. We are prepared to help communicate this client's story to potential investors of all skill levels."
About Point Group Holdings, Inc.
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated is a holding company which, through its subsidiaries, provides management services to businesses that have an operating history or can substantiate future performance in their respective industries. The Company participates in companies in various fields of business by providing executive-level managerial assistance as well as arranging for and contributing capital investment. Please visit the corporate website at www.pghi.biz or www.veegeez.com
About Equitilink
Equitilink assists public companies in improving their shareholder relations through professional, cost-effective investor relations strategies and specializes in working with small-cap and micro-cap companies. Equitilink helps its clients achieve fair market value by expanding public awareness and enhancing corporate image. Additional information is available on the web at www.equitilinkpr.com
Certain statements in this news release may contain forward-looking information within the meaning of Rule 175 under the Securities Act of 1933 and Rule 3b-6 under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and are subject to the safe harbor created by those rules. All statements, other than statements of fact, included in this release, including, without limitation, statements regarding potential future plans and objectives of the company, are forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. There can be no assurance that such statements will prove to be accurate and actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements. Technical complications that may arise could prevent the prompt implementation of any strategically significant plan(s) outlined above. The company cautions that these forward looking statements are further qualified by other factors including, but not limited to those, set forth in the company's Form 10-KSB filing and other filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (available at www.sec.gov). The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
Contact
Equitilink, LLC
Ronald Garner
877-788-1940
ron@equitilinkpr.com
SOURCE: Point Group Holdings, Incorporated
Copyright 2003 Market Wire, All rights reserved.
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
tommy why do u think its such a good idea for pghi to rent dvds... dont u think they should stick with video games for now and wait till they grow to branch out...especially with netflix as the competition.... i think and hope pghi sticks to just video games for now... and if they might in the future ... rent adult dvds... who knows
Good luck to us all!
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dz
/
quote:
Originally posted by justplayin:
Tommy, alot of us don't post alot because we aren't as fast with TA or DD as you seasoned guru's. I don't want to be an annoyance being a cheerleader.
JMOI
GO PGHI!!!
TUESDAY , OCTOBER 28, 2003 06:33 AM
SAN DIEGO, CA, Oct. 28, 2003 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Point Group Holdings, Incorporated (OTC BB: PGHI) announced that its subsidiary -- online video game rental company, VeeGeeZ.com, LLC -- has awarded its new website design to Roy Vella, Web & Print Design Service (www.RoyVella.com).
Lance Wiseman, CTO states, "The signing of this contract begins the next phase of VeeGeeZ.com's business plan to provide enhanced services to its customers. In addition, the new design will not only meet our current video game rental customer base it will setup our expansion into the DVD rental world"
VeeGeeZ.com makes available the latest video games, as well as the older classics, for Xbox, PlayStation2 and Gamecube to the approximately 18 million owners of these machines on a monthly subscription basis for a flat monthly fee. The subscriber establish an account, build a queue/list of games they want, VeeGeeZ ships the game(s) by US Mail, and the customer enjoys the games as long as they like. When they finish with the game, they simply return it in the provide mailer to the company and the next games in the queue is mailed.
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated is a holding company, which, through its subsidiaries, provides management services to businesses that have an operating history or can substantiate future performance in their respective industries. The Company participates in companies in various fields of business by providing executive-level managerial assistance as well as arranging for and contributing capital investment.
Certain statements in this news release may contain forward-looking information within the meaning of Rule 175 under the Securities Act of 1933 and Rule 3b-6 under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and are subject to the safe harbor created by those rules. All statements, other than statements of fact, included in this release, including, without limitation, statements regarding potential future plans and objectives of the company, are forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. There can be no assurance that such statements will prove to be accurate and actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements. Technical complications that may arise could prevent the prompt implementation of any strategically significant plan(s) outlined above. The company cautions that these forward looking statements are further qualified by other factors including, but not limited to those, set forth in the company's Form 10-KSB filing and other filings with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (available at www.sec.gov). The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.
For more information contact or visit our websites:
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated -- www.pghi.biz
VeeGeeZ.com, LLC -- www.veegeez.com
Equitilink, LLC -- www.equitilinkpr.com
Equitilink, LLC
Ronald Garner, (Investor Relations)
877-788-1940
ron@equitilinkpr.com
SOURCE: Point Group Holdings, Incorporated
Copyright 2003 Market Wire, All rights reserved.
PSU
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Confirmed:01.06.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 468,049,949
Float: 226,284,98212.15.2003 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 440,799,949
Float: 197,361,116Difference _____________
Authorized: Zero
Issued: +27,250,000
Float: +28,923,866
________________________Per Interwest Transfer Company 01/06/2003
(801)277-1400[This message has been edited by m_h13021 (edited January 06, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by Chet:
(cash advance on my VISA!)
AMAZING!!! that a boy! You have to love the energy. A great twist on margin accounts - Marty
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
Confirmed:01.06.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 468,049,949
Float: 226,284,98212.15.2003 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 440,799,949
Float: 197,361,116Difference _____________
Authorized: Zero
Issued: +27,250,000
Float: +28,923,866
________________________Per Interwest Transfer Company 01/06/2003
(801)277-1400[This message has been edited by m_h13021 (edited January 06, 2004).]
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Hum so I guess that the numbers that the other guy posted on RB was not accurate. Sorry folks, seems like the PPM was not part of the O/S increase. Oh well!GLTA!
ACCURATE: http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=PGHI&read=23220
NOT-ACCURATE: http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=PGHI&read=23222
- Marty
Even better than that is DVDs are much cheaper than games = more profit $$$$
quote:
Originally posted by stockguy04:
tommy why do u think its such a good idea for pghi to rent dvds... dont u think they should stick with video games for now and wait till they grow to branch out...especially with netflix as the competition.... i think and hope pghi sticks to just video games for now... and if they might in the future ... rent adult dvds... who knows
GLTA!
quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
PSU, I got that number from a dude who called the transfer agent today. However, do you want hear the good news?The transfer agent reports an increase of 54M shares outstanding but only 24M in the float, which means that there's an extra 25M (54M - 24M) probably coming from the PPM.
Now if we take an average price of 0.02 for the PPM, 25M would give us $50,000 already raised and going directly into PGHI's account for them increase inventory and hummmm can anyone say DVD's coming up?
The best part is that those 25M from the PPM can not dilute the float because they can't be vested until at least a year from now.
We're in very good shape, hold tight and smell the roses!
GLTA!
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woody
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Let not the rich man glory in his riches.
quote:
Originally posted by PAUL:
everyone on new thread