quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Well, as tey said on CNBC today, many infrastructure plays are up 70-100% in the last 3 weeks, so people have already bid the infrastructure plays way up. Could they go up more? Sure, but you also missed a pretty big chunk of any rally if you're just getting in them, now. I don't think risk/reward level is very appealing at this point.
As for financials, maybe they keep going up, but with how much they've bounced of the bottom, I can't fathom a case where they never pull back, and just keep going straight up. I'm not saying I'm holding this short for weeks/months, I just think I can make some pretty good money in the next few days on the pullback that I think we will get.
And then after that I'm going back to the triple longs in my IRA, because I do think we'll be at/near a bottom if we test 8000 again.
But there down 70%-80%. Foster Wheeler? Manitowoc? These are companies selling at a P/E of 3 or lower, growing at over 25% even before the stimulus. Obama has a 700 billion dollar check to write.
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Well good luck, they're just not for my trading style. I need to find things that I think have a good chance of going up within a couple of days or less. There are tons of things that I think will be monsters over the next few months/years, but I can't afford to wait on some of those.
Or am I misunderstanding and you're saying you think the ones you mentioned are primed to run soon?
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quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Well good luck, they're just not for my trading style. I need to find things that I think have a good chance of going up within a couple of days or less. There are tons of things that I think will be monsters over the next few months/years, but I can't afford to wait on some of those.
Or am I misunderstanding and you're saying you think the ones you mentioned are primed to run soon?
Well, I think the catalyst is in. Whether it runs before Jan.20th is the exception. I know that the ENTIRE world now knows his plan, so one would think that the early bird catches the worm. There is more money sitting on the sidelines than ever before, so I'm confident with my picks. I'm up several hundred % in that strategy alone. Enough to buy a nice Buick or Oldsmobile. LoL!!!!!
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had a dr appointment in the morning and then went to my old office to visit. Ended up staying there until after the market closed. Still holding my FAZ, and played a bounce on GNTA yesterday from the dr office, but basically didn't trade yesterday. You play anything good?
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Sold half of my FAZ at 41.50 from 38.50. Holding the other half for now.
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Nice job! I don't think I'll get back in after I sell the rest, at least for a while. Unless the Dow jumps to 9500+ in the next couple of days. Then I'd load on either FAZ or BGZ I think.
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Just loaded BGZ at 63.25. I have a feeling that the DOW goes red soon and closes down a good bit. Just a gut feeling though, so definitely could be way wrong.
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Well, the Dow went red and BGZ went into the 65s, but I held through it. The Dow rebounded and is now up 60+, and BGZ is under $63, so I'm down a bit on my buy, but I think I'll hold overnight.
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Just loaded BGZ at 63.25. I have a feeling that the DOW goes red soon and closes down a good bit. Just a gut feeling though, so definitely could be way wrong.
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I have a LOT of FAZ in my IRA from $38. It was more a play thinking that the market would pull back from the 8900-9000 range back to the low 8000s (because the financials seem to have trended mostly with the markets, but more violently) but as of a few hours ago, FAZ was up big from when I bought, while the DOW was still at like 8800.
I may move that money into BGZ, because overall the market hasn't had the hard pullback yet that I was thinking it would. But if FAZ keeps moving like this i may just have to hold it.
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Out half of my FAZ shares from my IRA at $49 (and already it's at $49.80, yikes, what a runner!).
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Sold my BGZ at 67.58 just before the close. Probably should have just held it into tomorrow, as I still think we approach 8000 again on the Dow in the next few days, but I wanted to free up that cash for tomorrow. I may buy it back tomorrow, but I'm happy to take a nice profit on it for now.
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What happened to 9500 investor? I thought you were always right
Funny how this was exactly what I thought would happen, and was waiting for all week, and then ended up selling out of FAZ for not even a 15% gain in my trading account, and BGZ for like 7%...
I'll have to try to feel good about the fact that I held my FAZ from $38 in my IRA, having sold only half so far, that being at $49.00 I think. I had a lot more shares in my IRA than my trading account, but I'm 35 years away from touching that money...
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quote:Originally posted by PCola77: What happened to 9500 investor? I thought you were always right
Funny how this was exactly what I thought would happen, and was waiting for all week, and then ended up selling out of FAZ for not even a 15% gain in my trading account, and BGZ for like 7%...
I'll have to try to feel good about the fact that I held my FAZ from $38 in my IRA, having sold only half so far, that being at $49.00 I think. I had a lot more shares in my IRA than my trading account, but I'm 35 years away from touching that money...
About individual stocks, ya. Up more than you can believe on MTW, DRYSW, MN,X,FWLT. But BRAVO P on your one good trade. It seems its been a while since you’ve had one. You deserve it.
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Also, what happened to form 4? It seems just the stock that has been beaten up the most for the day. Kind of like a bottom feeder.
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Dude I was just busting your chops, didn't realize you were so sensitive when you were proven wrong...
I got a new computer recently, and haven't taken the time to get the form 4 program working properly on the new one, so I haven't run it lately. You're correct that this thread is mostly bottom bouncers, as that's been most of what I've been trading recently.
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FAZ or BGU, once the Dow hits a bottom. They are triple levered (FAS indexed to financials and BGU to Russell 1000 I think). I've played the inverses of those (FAZ and BGZ) this week, anticipating this recent pullback. I'm looking for FAS in the $15-$17 range, bu may start to get in small earlier than that.
How are you holding up? Stuff all ironed out with the insurance companies?
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quote:Originally posted by PCola77: FAZ or BGU, once the Dow hits a bottom. They are triple levered (FAS indexed to financials and BGU to Russell 1000 I think). I've played the inverses of those (FAZ and BGZ) this week, anticipating this recent pullback. I'm looking for FAS in the $15-$17 range, bu may start to get in small earlier than that.
How are you holding up? Stuff all ironed out with the insurance companies?
Thanks for the hedzup.
I'm personally holding up well, save a a coupla complications not worthy to mention. Insurance folks are treating me square--the crooks remain the so-called mortgage companies. We may as well call them pirates.
quote:Originally posted by PCola77: Dude I was just busting your chops, didn't realize you were so sensitive when you were proven wrong...
I got a new computer recently, and haven't taken the time to get the form 4 program working properly on the new one, so I haven't run it lately. You're correct that this thread is mostly bottom bouncers, as that's been most of what I've been trading recently.
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I see this trend continuing over the next 6 months. Also, with Obamas stimulus plan I would go with X, MTW, FWLT, YRCW, TEX, and CX
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quote:Originally posted by PCola77: FAZ or BGU, once the Dow hits a bottom. They are triple levered (FAS indexed to financials and BGU to Russell 1000 I think). I've played the inverses of those (FAZ and BGZ) this week, anticipating this recent pullback. I'm looking for FAS in the $15-$17 range, bu may start to get in small earlier than that.
How are you holding up? Stuff all ironed out with the insurance companies?
you keep mixing up FAS with FAZ...sometimes even in the same post..LoL
I do it, too. I know you know the difference betweent he two, just miss type it.
at first you said FAZ or BGU but then in the parenthesis you had it correct FAS and BGU so It's obvious you know the difference between them, but you keep miss typeing them
P.S. Im loving these 3x ETF's....How about you???
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They havbe been my saving grace the last two weeks. Doing great on them. And I'm totally comfortable trading huge dolar volumes on them in my IRA and knowing they're not going to announce bankruptcy ovbernight
The FAS/FAZ problem is that I always think of symbols as words, and pronounce them as such in my head when I'm typing. I read them both as fazz. I gotta traing myself to call them fazz and fass...
From now on, I'll just say "I got the triple leveregd LONG or SHORT" Posts: 5508 | From: Southeastern PA | Registered: Jan 2006
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Oh, also got 30k shares of FRE at .655 in my IRA. Just a hunch, nothing more. Not my normal type of play, but I don't want to see it back at like $1.50 in a month and pissed at myself for not loading down here.
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