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copied this Pacer update from i-hub thread:

quote:
FILED IN CLERKS OFFICE
U.&D.C . Atlanta
W0 0 7 2047
JAMES N . 7 EN• L K
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA
ATLANTA DIVISION
1 ;06-CV-2565-CC
Defendants .
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE
COMMISSION,
Plaintiff,
V.
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDING
CORPORATION and RUFUS PAUL
HARRIS a/k/a PAUL RUFUS HARRIS,
Civil Action No .
MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION/REHEARING OF THE
OCTOBER 3D'H ORDER ENTERED BY THIS COURT
COMES NOW the Defendant, RUFUS PAUL HARRIS, a/k/a
PAUL RUFUS• HARRIS and Moves this Court to reconsider the
findings of fact and vacate the Order entered based on those erroneous
findings an/or conclusions in this cause based upon this Defendant being
denied due process of law and hindered in answering Plaintiff's
Complaint by other unethical practices and in support thereof states :
This Motion is based on the Court's denial of this Defendant's
Motion to set aside the default entered by the Clerk in this action . This
Order was entered by this Court without the benefit of a h earin g on this
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 1 of 9


matter to hear the Defendant's argument on this matter .
1 . That after service of process upon this Defendant, the said
Defendant did not have funds available for the substantial retainer to
employ an attorney versed in Securities Law.
2. This Defendant was s ubjected to a n unauthorized and illegal
change of officers and directors of Conversion Solutions Holding
Corporation and was unable to have access to all records necessary to
formulate a proper defense and Counterclaim to the Plaintiff's
Complaint.
3. During the time that this Defendant was deprived access to
records to defend this action, the Securities and Exchange Commission
seized the records from those individuals who had control of said
records and once again, this Defendant had no access to said records to
prepare his answer to Plaintiff's Complaint.
4. This Defendant entered into talks with the Plaintiff, cooperated in
every way and was given a false sense that the Plaintiff would subpoena
the documents necessary for the Defendant to defend this action but the
Plaintiff did not acquire these documents or if they did, they did not
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 2 of 9


share them with the Defendant as promised, causing a default to be
entered against the Defendant while the above referenced talks were
ongoing, depriving this Defendant of due process of law .
5. The conduct of the Plaintiff and its attorneys has violated the
sta ndards of professional conduct for members of the Georgia Bar as
well as Federal ethics standards by withholding information from this
Defendant while defaulting him and continuing talks after the default
was entered .
6. This Defendant finally realized that the Plaintiff was never going
to supply him with the promised information he needed to file an
appropriate answer and th erefore the Defendant filed his answer, late
as it was, without the needed information to file a proper answer and
the Plaintiff moved to strike said answer .
7. The Plaintiff does not have clean hands in dealing with this
Defendant, has committed a breach of e thics and has had a severe
conflict of interest by withholding exculpatory evidence and records
from the Defendant, thus denying the Defenda nt Due Process in this
action.
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 3 of 9


C} The phone recordings and messages of the Home Office
were unavailable to defendant after the illegal hostile
takeover to provide as evidence .
8. The failure to file a timely answer by this Defendant is due to
excusable neglect which was caused by the unethical actions of the
Plaintiff and its Attorneys .
9. Defendant is in the process of drafting a complaint to be fi led with
the Georgia Bar Association to investigate the ethics of the Plaintiff's
attorney's in dealing with this Defendant.
lO.Other events that occurred to prevent this Defendant from filing
a timely answer, defenses and counterclaim to Plaintiffs Complaint are
as follows :
A) The Email account holding the majority of the evidence
was illegally seized by James Gee and never remitted to
Defendant.
B) After strenuous evidence gather process by Conversion
Executives of the 1000 Plus illegal shareholders names and
the firms that sold them their shares, The Names of the
illegal shareholders were illegally seized by James Gee,
Justin Frazier and John Arlitt to prevent the production of
said evidence to the court.
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 4 of 9


WHEREFORE, THE Defendant, RUFUS PAUL HARRIS, a/k/a PAUL
RUFUS HARRIS, MOVES THIS Court to reconsider and vacate the Order
that was entered by this Court on October 301b 2007 for the foregoing reasons
and allow this Defendant to properly-answer Plaintiff's Complaint.
e ~...a
Rufus 1 Harris alk/a
Paul Ru u s Harris
P.O. Box 18
Adairsville, Georgia 30103
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 5 of 9


BEFORE ME, the undersigned authority, personally appeared RUFUS
PAUL HARRIS a/k/a PAUL RUFUS HARRIS, who, after first being duly
sworn by me according to law, states that the foregoing facts set forth in the
above Motion For Reconsideration/Rehearing are true and correct to the best
of his knowledge and belief.
NOTARY PUBLIC
0114 F . At L,
STATE N ~
OF
TENNESSEE
NOTARY
~ PUBLIC ~
10
.01
~lllV v" ~
My Commission Expires : I ~ (-Z,t ,c0
I, RUFUS PAUL HARRIS a/k/a PAUL RUFUS HARRIS, after being duly
sworn according to law , do state and affirm, under penalty of perjury, that
the facts set forth in the foregoing Motion for Reconsideration/Rehearing are
true and correct to my best knowledge and belief .
d
Rufus null Harris aIk/a
Paul Rufus Harris
STATEOF County of ~ r~ s
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 6 of 9


Office of the Attorney General
State of Georgia
40 Capitol Square, SW
Atlanta, Ga 30334
I HEREBY CERTIFY that a true and correct copy of the foregoing
Motion for Reconsideration/Rehearing has been furnished t o William P
Hicks, Debbie T. Hampton and Alana R Black, Attorney's for Plaintiff, 34 75
Lenox Road, NE, Suite 1000, Atlanta, GA 30326-1232 by U .S. Mail this 5th
day of November, 2008.
~. ~ ~.,
Rufus aul Harris a/k/a
Paul Rufus Harris
Copied to the following ;
United States Attorney General
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 7 of 9


IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA
ATLANTA DIVISION
Civil Action No.
1 :06-CV-2568-CC
Defendants.
Plaintiff or its Attorneys or unknown third parties and cannot be retrieved in
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE
COMMISSION,
Plaintiff,
V.
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDING
CORPORATION and RUFUS PAUL
HARRIS a/k/a PAUL RUFUS HARRIS,
MOTION FOR ENLARGEMENT OF TIME TO
FILE SUPPLEMENTAL AFFIDAVITS
COMES NOW the Defendant, RUFUS PAUL HARRIS, a/k/a PAUL
RUFUS HARRIS, and moves this Court to extend the time period for filing
affidavits and submitting documentation supporting this Motionfor an
additional 60 days, until January 2nd , 2008.
The grounds for this Motion are that the time period set forth in the
Federal Rules of Civil Procedure is insufficient to find witnesses to execute
affidavits or to find and submit other documents and/or evidence supporting
this Defendants Motion .
The needed documents to support this Motion are in the possession of the
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 8 of 9


Paul Rufus Harris
a 10 day period from the entry of this Courts Order entered on October 30,
2007.
WHEREFORE, THE Defendant, RUFUS PAUL HARRIS, a/k/a PAUL
RUFUS HARRIS, moves this Court for an enlargement of time, until January
2, 2008, to file supplemental affidavits, documents and/or other evidence to
support the Defendant's Motion for Reconsideration/Rehearing heretofore
filed in this cause
I HEREBY CERTIFY that a true and correct copy of the foregoing
Motion for Enlargement of Time has been furnished to William P Hicks,
Debbie T. Hampton and Alana R Black, Attorney's for Plaintiff, 3475 Lenox
Road, NE, Suite 1000, Atlanta, GA 30326-1232 by U.S. Mail this 5th day of
November, 2008.
f~
Rufus ul Harris a/k/a
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 9 of 9

unbelievable...staggeringly unbelievable

(for notes, references, DD, etc here's the preceding thread:

http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/2/ t/013717/p/105.html)

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So your thoughts now Tex?????
[Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!]

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FILED IN CLERKS OFFICE
U.&D.C . Atlanta
W0 0 7 2047
JAMES N . 7 EN• L K
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA
ATLANTA DIVISION
1 ;06-CV-2565-CC
Defendants .
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE
COMMISSION,
Plaintiff,
V.
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDING
CORPORATION and RUFUS PAUL
HARRIS a/k/a PAUL RUFUS HARRIS,
Civil Action No .
MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION/REHEARING OF THE
OCTOBER 3D''H ORDER ENTERED BY THIS COURT
COMES NOW the Defendant, RUFUS PAUL HARRIS, a/k/a
PAUL RUFUS• HARRIS and Moves this Court to reconsider the
findings of fact and vacate the Order entered based on those erroneous
findings an/or conclusions in this cause based upon this Defendant being
denied due process of law and hindered in answering Plaintiff's
Complaint by other unethical practices and in support thereof states :
This Motion is based on the Court's denial of this Defendant's
Motion to set aside the default entered by the Clerk in this action . This
Order was entered by this Court without the benefit of a h earin g on this
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 1 of 9
matter to hear the Defendant's argument on this matter .
1 . That after service of process upon this Defendant, the said
Defendant did not have funds available for the substantial retainer to
employ an attorney versed in Securities Law.
2. This Defendant was s ubjected to a n unauthorized and illegal
change of officers and directors of Conversion Solutions Holding
Corporation and was unable to have access to all records necessary to
formulate a proper defense and Counterclaim to the Plaintiff's
Complaint.
3. During the time that this Defendant was deprived access to
records to defend this action, the Securities and Exchange Commission
seized the records from those individuals who had control of said
records and once again, this Defendant had no access to said records to
prepare his answer to Plaintiff's Complaint.
4. This Defendant entered into talks with the Plaintiff, cooperated in
every way and was given a false sense that the Plaintiff would subpoena
the documents necessary for the Defendant to defend this action but the
Plaintiff did not acquire these documents or if they did, they did not
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 2 of 9
share them with the Defendant as promised, causing a default to be
entered against the Defendant while the above referenced talks were
ongoing, depriving this Defendant of due process of law .
5. [Eek!] The conduct of the Plaintiff and its attorneys has violated the
standards of professional conduct for members of the Georgia Bar as
well as Federal ethics standards by withholding information from this
Defendant while defaulting him and continuing talks after the default
was entered .
[Eek!] 6. This Defendant finally realized that the Plaintiff was never going
to supply him with the promised information he needed to file an
appropriate answer and th erefore the Defendant filed his answer, late
as it was, without the needed information to file a proper answer and
the Plaintiff moved to strike said answer .
7. [Eek!] The Plaintiff does not have clean hands in dealing with this
Defendant, has committed a breach of ethics and has had a severe
conflict of interest by withholding exculpatory evidence and records
from the Defendant, thus denying the Defendant Due Process in this [Eek!]
action.
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 3 of 9
C} The phone recordings and messages of the Home Office
were unavailable to defendant after the illegal hostile
takeover to provide as evidence .
8. The failure to file a timely answer by this Defendant is due to
excusable neglect which was caused by the unethical actions of the
Plaintiff and its Attorneys .
9. Defendant is in the process of drafting a complaint to be fi led with
the Georgia Bar Association to investigate the ethics of the Plaintiff's
attorney's in dealing with this Defendant.
lO.Other events that occurred to prevent this Defendant from filing
a timely answer, defenses and counterclaim to Plaintiffs Complaint are
as follows :
A) The Email account holding the majority of the evidence
was illegally seized by James Gee and never remitted to
Defendant.
B) After strenuous evidence gather process by Conversion
Executives of the 1000 Plus illegal shareholders names and
the firms that sold them their shares, The Names of the
illegal shareholders were illegally seized by [Eek!] James Gee,
Justin Frazier and John Arlitt to prevent the production of
said evidence to the court. [Eek!]
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 4 of 9
WHEREFORE, THE Defendant, RUFUS PAUL HARRIS, a/k/a PAUL
RUFUS HARRIS, MOVES THIS Court to reconsider and vacate the Order
that was entered by this Court on October 301b 2007 for the foregoing reasons
and allow this Defendant to properly-answer Plaintiff's Complaint.
e ~...a
Rufus 1 Harris alk/a
Paul Ru u s Harris
P.O. Box 18
Adairsville, Georgia 30103
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 5 of 9
BEFORE ME, the undersigned authority, personally appeared RUFUS
PAUL HARRIS a/k/a PAUL RUFUS HARRIS, who, after first being duly
sworn by me according to law, states that the foregoing facts set forth in the
above Motion For Reconsideration/Rehearing are true and correct to the best
of his knowledge and belief.
NOTARY PUBLIC
0114 F . At L,
STATE N ~
OF
TENNESSEE
NOTARY
~ PUBLIC ~
10
.01
~lllV v" ~
My Commission Expires : I ~ (-Z,t ,c0
I, RUFUS PAUL HARRIS a/k/a PAUL RUFUS HARRIS, after being duly
sworn according to law , do state and affirm, under penalty of perjury, that
the facts set forth in the foregoing Motion for Reconsideration/Rehearing are
true and correct to my best knowledge and belief .
d
Rufus null Harris aIk/a
Paul Rufus Harris
STATEOF County of ~ r~ s
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 6 of 9
Office of the Attorney General
State of Georgia
40 Capitol Square, SW
Atlanta, Ga 30334
I HEREBY CERTIFY that a true and correct copy of the foregoing
Motion for Reconsideration/Rehearing has been furnished t o William P
Hicks, Debbie T. Hampton and Alana R Black, Attorney's for Plaintiff, 34 75
Lenox Road, NE, Suite 1000, Atlanta, GA 30326-1232 by U .S. Mail this 5th
day of November, 2008.
~. ~ ~.,
Rufus aul Harris a/k/a
Paul Rufus Harris
[Eek!] Copied to the following ;
United States Attorney General
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001 [Eek!]
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 7 of 9
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA
ATLANTA DIVISION
Civil Action No.
1 :06-CV-2568-CC
Defendants.
Plaintiff or its Attorneys or unknown third parties and cannot be retrieved in
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE
COMMISSION,
Plaintiff,
V.
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLDING
CORPORATION and RUFUS PAUL
HARRIS a/k/a PAUL RUFUS HARRIS,
MOTION FOR ENLARGEMENT OF TIME TO
FILE SUPPLEMENTAL AFFIDAVITS
COMES NOW the Defendant, RUFUS PAUL HARRIS, a/k/a PAUL
RUFUS HARRIS, and moves this Court to extend the time period for filing
affidavits and submitting documentation supporting this Motionfor an
additional 60 days, until January 2nd , 2008.
The grounds for this Motion are that the time period set forth in the
Federal Rules of Civil Procedure is insufficient to find witnesses to execute
affidavits or to find and submit other documents and/or evidence supporting
this Defendants Motion .
The needed documents to support this Motion are in the possession of the
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 8 of 9
Paul Rufus Harris
a 10 day period from the entry of this Courts Order entered on October 30,
2007.
WHEREFORE, THE Defendant, RUFUS PAUL HARRIS, a/k/a PAUL
RUFUS HARRIS, moves this Court for an enlargement of time, until January
2, 2008, to file supplemental affidavits, documents and/or other evidence to
support the Defendant's Motion for Reconsideration/Rehearing heretofore
filed in this cause
I HEREBY CERTIFY that a true and correct copy of the foregoing
Motion for Enlargement of Time has been furnished to William P Hicks,
Debbie T. Hampton and Alana R Black, Attorney's for Plaintiff, 3475 Lenox
Road, NE, Suite 1000, Atlanta, GA 30326-1232 by U.S. Mail this 5th day of
November, 2008.
f~
Rufus ul Harris a/k/a
Case 1:06-cv-02568-CC Document 20 Filed 11/07/2007 Page 9 of 9


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Rufus for president ! [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
So your thoughts now Tex?????
[Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!]

posturing for some reason...he's gotta know that filing goes nowhere.

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i said this before, i'll say it again. i listened carefully to Rufus's early interviews and IMO he truly beleives(d) what he was saying...

so is he delusional? could be...

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Hey Glass,

Thats what i have always said:

He either speaks the truth or he is nuts!!!

I believe the former!!

If you had to gamble the house on it, which way would you go???

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I've dealt with guys on the street--and in corporate jobs--who get angry when you challenge their story line...cuz you're *supposed* to believe it. The *script* "becomes" the reality...

I don't know enough to know whether shrinks have a label for that...

I'm half a mind to, well...not be surprised, let's say, if it turns out he's skipped down the Hoot Owl Trail...

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quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Hey Glass,

Thats what i have always said:

He either speaks the truth or he is nuts!!!

I believe the former!!

If you had to gamble the house on it, which way would you go???

i've never gambled the house on any stock.

every time i see one go to da moon i kick myself, but there's always 50 or a 100 to bring me back to reason [Big Grin]

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My vote, although I would love to believe the contrary- and to a certain extent, I respect his apparent conviction.
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quote:
Originally posted by fhalyesss:
Hey Glass,

Thats what i have always said:

He either speaks the truth or he is nuts!!!

I believe the former!!

If you had to gamble the house on it, which way would you go???


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the recent mortgage crisis has made information on how bond trading works more available as people are asking questions.

in theory? rufufu had a good thing if he really owned those bonds...
the SEC says he didn't....

here's a place to read up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repurchase_agreement

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recent? lol... *current*... [Smile]

sure--but that's a huge if. Despite their screw-ups and cronyism, the SEC has the resources to determine whether something's odd about a bond claim.

If it's so convoluted that they need clarification? Makes no sense for a going concern to refuse such clarification.

If the play is designed for the going concern to implode? then it makes sense...

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if it was designed to implode? then you'd think rufufu would have had a bolt-hole to creep into.. unless he didn't know... which is quite possible.

when this thing hit, i had a vague idea of how the bond market works... now? i have a slightly less vague idea LOL....

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also Tex? we never could figure out how the big bonds came to be in rufuf's possession which was a red flag...

i always assumed it was somebody trying to move money in the the US from offshore in a "legal maneuver" that only lawyers understand... [Confused]

i have seen people transfer timberland around into different shells, (i assume) to avoid inheritance taxes..
those companies were never worth trading tho.

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Urban myth? I dunno... but I like it..."rings" true to me, knowing the border a bit:

Guy heads for Mexico from Texas on a bike. He's got saddlebags, panniers, whatever...He stops short of the checkpoint and empties his bags. It's sand...makes a nice little hill of sand, from each bag. He rides up to the checkpoint, where he's held while they send a guy to check the lil hills: it's just sand.

So they let him through.

This goes on every day... same procedure.

Finally, they realize...he's smuggling stolen bicycles...

As mentioned, wouldn't surprise me hugely if this latest filing ain't nuthin' more than a pile of sand...

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Also, glass?

unless he didn't know... which is quite possible.

is possible he didn't know what?

Corey? the bond claims? the moon base? the Vatican?

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B) After strenuous evidence gather process by Conversion
Executives of the 1000 Plus illegal shareholders names and
the firms that sold them their shares, The Names of the
illegal shareholders were illegally seized by James Gee,
Justin Frazier and John Arlitt to prevent the production of
said evidence to the court.


So these guys took the company over via shareholder committee in the dying moments to seize info. to protect themselves while screwing the real shareholders into submission......

And they would of gotten away with it had it not been for those medeling kids


sounds like a scooby doo episode.


This will go on for 2 more years IMO.

Go Rufus.

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This guys wasting his time ...... He still cannot represent the company himself . If the company is broke , thats its problem not the SEC's or the Courts . Remember who was the one that wanted this to go to court so all could be on record .........

Way to fumble the ball you freakin moron . Dufus would make a good president , just not in a country I'd want to live in .

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quote:
Originally posted by a surfer:

sounds like a scooby doo episode.


This will go on for 2 more years IMO.

Go Rufus.

Ruh Roh ..........

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quote:
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B) After strenuous evidence gather process by Conversion
Executives of the 1000 Plus illegal shareholders names and
the firms that sold them their shares, The Names of the
illegal shareholders were illegally seized by James Gee,
Justin Frazier and John Arlitt to prevent the production of
said evidence to the court.


So these guys took the company over via shareholder committee in the dying moments to seize info. to protect themselves while screwing the real shareholders into submission......

And they would of gotten away with it had it not been for those medeling kids


sounds like a scooby doo episode.


This will go on for 2 more years IMO.

Go Rufus.

lol, wasn't even gonna go there--

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illegal shareholders were illegally seized by James Gee,

too funny...forget the "seizure" for the moment: what in THE WORLD is an ILLEGAL SHAREHOLDER?

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quote:
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This guys wasting his time ...... He still cannot represent the company himself . If the company is broke , thats its problem not the SEC's or the Courts . Remember who was the one that wanted this to go to court so all could be on record .........

Way to fumble the ball you freakin moron . Dufus would make a good president , just not in a country I'd want to live in .

i try not to get too political outside of off-topic.. it's just that Rufufu reminds of all the politicians who keep saying they are innocent until they are convicted dead to rights.. and even then? they still claim innocence...

whos that senator that has "wide stance" LOL....

if you ask me? scooby doo is a lot more entertaining than most of these bozo's (rufufu included)

when people say the penniestocks are all crooked? they are ignoring more than half the crooks in the market... [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by thesource:
This guys wasting his time ...... He still cannot represent the company himself . If the company is broke , thats its problem not the SEC's or the Courts . Remember who was the one that wanted this to go to court so all could be on record .........

Way to fumble the ball you freakin moron . Dufus would make a good president , just not in a country I'd want to live in .

i try not to get too political outside of off-topic.. it's just that Rufufu reminds of all the politicians who keep saying they are innocent until they are convicted dead to rights.. and even then? they still claim innocence...

whos that senator that has "wide stance" LOL....

if you ask me? scooby doo is a lot more entertaining than most of these bozo's (rufufu included)

when people say the penniestocks are all crooked? they are ignoring more than half the crooks in the market... [Roll Eyes]

still not following:

unless he didn't know... which is quite possible.

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Damn I was really hoping the FBI would come in by now and put this POS out of its misery . Oh well I guess atleast Dufus admitted the company was broke and couldn't afford a lawyer . So much for them having one and so on .

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quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
still not following:

unless he didn't know... which is quite possible.

i just meant that somehow rufufu was scammed, and beleives that he had what he said he did...

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
still not following:

unless he didn't know... which is quite possible.

i just meant that somehow rufufu was scammed, and beleives that he had what he said he did...
given the filings, how could that be so? You and I both were hot tamale on the loan being swept under the rug...

Please construct a scenario in which Harris is unaware.

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well, let's say he has an IQ of 90, and somebody convinced him he actually has the bonds?

are you asking me if he didn't know maybe somebody was pushing the envelop on the legality of transferring the bonds?

they were supposedly Venzualan, which as we know has some serious political BS associated with it...

all i can do is speculate... most scammers disappear into the woodwork pretty quick. he's actually drawing more and more attention to himself... like OJ... that seems to me to mean he's either telling the truth as he sees it (delusional or not), or he's mentally ill.....

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as for the loan being swept under the rug? they deliberately broke the terms of the financing deal by "buying back" stock. that was clearly forbidden in the PIPE and they only bought back a few shares. then they announced it. that was a maneuver of some sort to break the contract...

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Hmmmm, interesting filing. He truly believes in everything he is out to accomplish IMO. Its not my opinion that matters though I suppose......Judge Cooper? What say you?
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quote:
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well, let's say he has an IQ of 90, and somebody convinced him he actually has the bonds?

are you asking me if he didn't know maybe somebody was pushing the envelop on the legality of transferring the bonds?

they were supposedly Venzualan, which as we know has some serious political BS associated with it...

all i can do is speculate... most scammers disappear into the woodwork pretty quick. he's actually drawing more and more attention to himself... like OJ... that seems to me to mean he's either telling the truth as he sees it (delusional or not), or he's mentally ill.....

good post...

re: "disappear," though...look how long PLNI and GTEL/GTE(amex)/GTEM ran the smokescreen...

not buying that, lol

Basically, you're positing Harris as either a dimwit or some sort of "nut" however we might term that, correctly.

yes?

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quote:
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as for the loan being swept under the rug? they deliberately broke the terms of the financing deal by "buying back" stock. that was clearly forbidden in the PIPE and they only bought back a few shares. then they announced it. that was a maneuver of some sort to break the contract...

refresh my memory...

agreed on "breaking the contract" but can not remember the details, off hand

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
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Originally posted by T e x:
still not following:

unless he didn't know... which is quite possible.

i just meant that somehow rufufu was scammed, and beleives that he had what he said he did...
given the filings, how could that be so? You and I both were hot tamale on the loan being swept under the rug...

Please construct a scenario in which Harris is unaware.

Who made the real killing here? Well if you look at it, Mike Alexander and friends.

In the scenario, which I fully admit is total conjecture without at this point exonerating Rufus, AJW(Corey Robiski and friends) made a ton on this play. In fact I would even surmise that they were responsible for much of the shorting that has been bandied about since they do have the offshore to accomplish this. I have seen a few plays that they are/have been involved in and it's always the same. PPS rises then crashes then rise and crashes.

So they find a cohort that counterfeits the bonds and presents them to an egomaniac that believes he knows the bond market because he studied it on the internet. In fact they may even own some real bonds and use them to fortify the validity of the bonds in question. Rufus, the egomaniac, takes the bait hook line and sinker. He believes that he is smarter then everyone. They keep giving him more and more rope and he hangs himself. The catch is that he truly believes that he created the scenario and has them by the B--ls. He still believes it. But in reality they played him just like a fiddle. In fact they even hire a Canadian promoter that goes by an Egyptian name, get Steven Canady/Mr. Salki, know scammer's to add additional bonds to the pie and then leak info to Tim Miles and the NY Post. Why Miles and the Post? Easy neither has total creditability so the PPS will be volatile and give them multiple chances to make money.
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What is the rule of thumb? Follow the money. Obviously Rufus doesn't have it, the SEC may never figure it out and what about the 50M shares that were gifted by Mike Alexander to an unknown party?

IMO, the more I think about it Rufus's nickname should be Rufus the DupeAss.

All of the above is pure conjecture nothing less and nothing more.

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If Harris got duped, seems like he would cooperate with authorities rather than continuing the "Oz" charade...

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quote:
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If Harris got duped, seems like he would cooperate with authorities rather than continuing the "Oz" charade...

once again Tex, i respectfully suggest you are giving him too much credit.

the people who are successful scammers LOOK REAL HARD for people with ego issues. ego issue that make people (victims) unwilling to admit they are wrong, and have been tricked, even when it is shoved down their throats. there's lots of 'em.. that's why i made the rufufu for president comment...

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So you think the payday was pretty well split along "company lines" ? ie, FHALsters divvy up MA's rake, while CSVUers hold da bag?

What about Dabbs, in that scenario? If that's the case, I would think some sort of "consultant's fee" would apply...

Also, given said scenario, Harris was too slow/ignorant/whatever to notice Corey's loan--and *his* not calling in the loan?

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i haven't sorted out Corey yet.

Sabra Dabbs? we'll just have to watch her in action to find out what she does next. i won't be playing anything i know she is in on anytime soon.

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