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So is he going to tell us anything besides unverifiable promises? He said that he had to get something off of his chest, and I want to hear what he can add that means anything to us the common stockholders. I am not bashing, I have been around since 0.07 cents, but I am just getting to the end of my patience. I got in for the logging deal, I bought more at 1.37, and even more at 3.02. The only problem is that I have seen the value of my shares dwindle down almost 20K in the past week. This money was meant for me to put toward the downpayment on my very first house, and I am still ahead, but every day I get more and more nervous seeing the price continue to go down. Yes I know that the first rule of investment is to not invest anything that you do not feel comfortable losing, but the only problem is that everyday, that value is doing down and down. I just wish we could get rid of all of this cloak and dagger chit, and have everyone be honest about everything. If what Tut says is going to happen happens, then good. But I don't like the idea of a unnamed mystery man telling us platitudes as we continue to lose money. Why doesn't he just tell us who he is, and come out will all of the plans? Then if there is anything wrong, let us do our DD and either prove him right or wrong. This is just getting frustrating.
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he has seen too many shareholders damaged by the naked shorting for example lthe SEC looking the other way, its time for the average shareholder to make a profit and not have groups ot there steal the money out fo their back pockets that they have earned
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Trilateral Commission From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search The Trilateral Commission is a private organization, founded in 1973 at the initiative of David Rockefeller, who pushed the idea of including Japan at the Bilderberg meetings he was attending but was rebuffed. Along with Zbigniew Brzezinski and a few others, including from the Brookings Institution, Council on Foreign Relations and the Ford Foundation, he convened initial meetings from which grew the Trilateral organisation. Its first executive committee meeting was held in Tokyo in October 1973. It consists of approximatively 300-350 private citizens from Europe, Pacific Asia (Asia & Oceania), and North America, and exists to promote closer political and economic cooperation between these areas.
Membership is divided into amounts apportioned to each of its three areas. Members include corporate CEOs, politicians of all major parties, distinguished academics, university presidents, labor union leaders and not-for-profits involved in overseas philanthropy. Members who gain a position in their respective country's government temporarily leave the commission.
The organization has come under much scrutiny and criticism by political activists and academics working in the social and political sciences. The Trilateral Commission has found its way into a number of conspiracy theories, especially relating to the Round table groups.
The North American continent is represented by 107 members (15 Canadians, 7 Mexicans and 85 US citizens). The European group has reached its limit of 150 members, including citizens from Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and United Kingdom.
At first, Asia and Oceania were represented only by Japan. However, in 2000, the Japanese group of 85 members expanded itself, becoming the Pacific Asia group, composed of 117 members: 75 Japanese, 11 South Koreans, 7 Australian and New Zealand citizens, and 15 members from the ASEAN nations (Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore and Thailand). The Pacific Asia group also includes 9 members from China, Hong Kong and Taiwan.
Contents [hide] 1 Membership 2 See also 3 Further reading 4 External links
[edit] Membership The three current chairmen are:
Tom Foley, North America (Democratic Congressman, former speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives and ambassador to Japan) Peter Sutherland, Europe (Irish businessman and former politician associated with the Fine Gael party; former Attorney General of Ireland and European Commissioner in the first Delors Commission; former director general of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, the precursor to the World Trade Organization) Yotaro Kobayashi, Pacific Asia (chairman of the Fuji Xerox company) Some other people who are or have been members:
Georges Berthoin (International Chairman of the European Movement from 1978-1981) Ritt Bjerregaard (Danish Social Democrat MP, member of various cabinets; European Commissioner for Environment, Nuclear Safety and Civil Protection in the Santer Commission from 1995 to 1999) John H. Bryan (former CEO of Sara Lee bakeries, affiliated with the World Economic Forum and part of the Board for Sara Lee, Goldman Sachs, General Motors, British Petroleum and Bank One) Zbigniew Brzezinski (US National Security Advisor to U.S. President Jimmy Carter from 1977 to 1981) James E. Burke (CEA of Johnson & Johnson from 1976 to 1989) George H.W. Bush (former President of the United States) Frank Carlucci (President of Carlyle Group, US Secretary of Defense from 1987 to 1989) Jimmy Carter (former President of the U.S.) Catherine Ann Bertini (former United Nations Under Secretary General in Management, former Director of World Food Program) Gerhard Casper (constitutional scholar, faculty member at Stanford University; successor trustee of Yale University and part of the Board of Trustees of the Central European University in Hungary) Dick Cheney (current vice-president of the US) Bill Clinton (former President of the U.S.) William Cohen (Republican Congressman and Senator, U.S. secretary of Defense under President Clinton) Tim Collins (CEO of Ripplewood Holdings LLC investment company; also part of the Yale Divinity School and Yale School of Management board of advisors and US-Japan non-profit organizations) Bill Emmott (former editor of The Economist magazine) Dianne Feinstein (Democratic US Senator, former mayor of San Francisco, member of the Council on Foreign Relations; ranking member of the U.S. Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security) Martin Feldstein (Professor of economics at Harvard University; president and CEO of the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER); chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers from 1982 to 1984; former director of the Council on Foreign Relations; member of the Bilderberg Group and of the World Economic Forum, etc.) Hugh Fletcher (Chancellor of Auckland University and CEO of Fletcher Challenge) David Gergen (political consultant and presidential advisor during the Republican administrations of Nixon, Ford and Reagan; also served as advisor to Bill Clinton) Allan Gotlieb (Canadian ambassador to Washington from 1981 to 1989, chairman of the Canada Council from 1989 to 1994) Bill Graham (former Canadian Minister of National Defence and Minister of Foreign Affairs under Paul Martin; since 2006, interim parliamentary leader of the Liberal Party) Hank Greenberg (former chairman and CEO of American International Group (AIG), the world's largest insurance and financial services corporation) Mugur Isarescu (Governor of the National Bank of Romania since 1990 and prime minister from December 1999 to November 2000; he worked for the Minister of Foreign Affairs then for the Romanian Embassy in the US after the 1989 Romanian revolution) Henry Kissinger (US diplomat, National Security Advisor and Secretary of State in the Nixon administration and Ford administration; practiced Realpolitik and main actor of the US foreign policy from 1969 to 1977) Otto Graf Lambsdorff (Chairman of the German Free Democratic Party from 1993 to 1998; Economic Minister for West Germany from 1977 to 1984) Liam Lawlor (Irish politician who resigned from the Fianna Fáil party; died in a car-crash in Moscow in 2005) Pierre Lellouche (French MP of the conservative Union for a Popular Movement party led by Nicolas Sarkozy) Jorge Braga de Macedo Kiichi Miyazawa (Japanese Prime minister in 1991-1993; Minister of Foreign Affairs from 1974 to 1976, Chief Cabinet Secretary from 1984 to 1986, Minister of Finance in 1987 and again from 1999 to 2002) Akio Morita (co-founder of Sony Corporation; vice-chairman of the Keindanren (Japan Federation of Economic Organizations) and member of the Japan-U.S. Economic Relations Group) Andrzej Olechowski (Polish director of Euronet, USA; on the supervisory boards of Citibank Handlowy and Europejski Fundusz Hipoteczny; president of the Central European Forum; deputy governor of the National Bank of Poland from 1989 to 1991; minister of Foreign Economic Relations from 1991 to 1992; minister of Finance in 1992 and of Foreign Affairs from 1993 to 1995; economic advisor to president Lech Wałęsa from 1992 to 1993 and in 1995, etc.) Carl Palme Lucas Papademos (European Central Bank Vice-president) Lee Raymond (ExxonMobil (Former CEO and Chairman, vice chairman of the Board of Trustees of the American Enterprise Institute, director of J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., director and member of the Executive Committee and Policy Committee of the American Petroleum Institute) Mary Robinson (elected president of Ireland from 1990 to 1997 as a candidate for the Labour party; United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights from 1997 to 2002) David Rockefeller (Chairman of the Chase Manhattan Bank board from 1969 to 1981 and its CEO from 1969 to 1980; vice-director of the Council on Foreign Relations from 1949 to 1985, vice-president from 1950 to 1970 and chairman from 1970 to 1985, now honorary Chairman; a life member of the Bilderberg Group) Gerard C. Smith (first U.S. Chairman of the Commission; chief U.S. delegate to the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks of 1969) Jessica Stern (former NSC staff member, author, and lecturer at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government) George Vasiliou (President of the Republic of Cyprus from 1988 to 1993, founder and leader of the Cypriot United Democrats party) Francisco Pinto Balsemão Maldonado Gonelha Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa (Leader of the Social Democratic Party (Portugal) from 1996 to 1999. Miguel Sousa Soares (Management Consultant, EMPORDEF,MDN, Portugal) from 2005. Paul Volcker (Chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve from 1979 to 1987, main actor of the transition from Keynes-based policy to monetarist-based policy) Paul Wolfowitz (President of the World Bank and a prominent member of the neo-conservatives in Washington) Isamu Yama****a Lorenzo Zambrano (Mexican chairman and CEO of CEMEX since 1985, the third largest cement company of the world; member of the board of IBM, Citiroup, etc.) Robert Zoellick (Deputy Secretary of State, formerly the U.S. Trade Representative.) [edit] See also Council on Foreign Relations Bilderberg Group Bohemian Grove Brookings Institution Rand Corporation World Economic Forum Geopolitics David Rockefeller [edit] Further reading Memoirs by David Rockefeller, New York: Random House, 2002. Contains a brief history of the Commission's founding, composition of members and overall influence. Trilateralism: The Trilateral Commission and Elite Planning for World Management by Holly Sklar, South End Press (November 1, 1980), 616 pages, ISBN 0-89608-103-6 Trilaterals Over Washington, Vol. I and II by Antony C. Sutton and Patrick M. Wood, The August Corporation (1979/81), ISBN 0-933482-01-9 American Hegemony and the Trilateral Commission (Cambridge Studies in International Relations) (collective), Cambridge University Press (November 7, 1991), 318 pages, ISBN 0-521-42433-X The Rockefeller triangle: A country editor's documented report on the Trilateral Commission plan for world government by Bill Wilkerson, Idalou Beacon (1980), 44 pages, ASIN B0006E2ZE4 Who's who of the elite: members of the Bilderbergs, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, and Skull & Bones Society by Robert Gaylon Ross. - 2nd revision. - San Marcos, Tex : RIE, 2000, ISBN 0-9649888-0-1 Tous pouvoirs confondus : État, capital et médias à l'ère de la mondialisation by Geoffrey Geuens, EPO (15 March 2003), 470 pages, ISBN 2-87262-193-8
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the shareholders have one helluva opportunity here, he hates to see them lose it. its rare that the investors can get in on the ground floor.
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he has a number of groups he is associated with. they arent involved w cshd in any kind of a consulting relationship theyve just done a lot of DD
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Wally can you IM Simon and ask how he knows Rufus and why he feels so confident in all these statements.
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~5 billion in help for the republican and the clean up of 911.. ~Similar to an IPO. ~It can't be a scam at this level example... look at 8k filings and the 15 a share...the SEC makes them proove that this is real...they question things...and there is no way that you can "fool" the SEC. ~Tut claims that Rufus and Company will have nothing to gain at this point, they can not "gain" for 90 days after the merger completion the 90 ticker starts when the 10k and reset are completed. ~his company has done all the DD the UN is involved ~Rufus has powerful connections ~Rufus's goals are to better allot of situations in the world, he wants the share holders to have a better life...and make the world better for many parts of the world. ~there are obviously other backers for rufus and he has the connections world wide. ~(keep in mind that most of these comments are from Tut's DD and opinon) ~he beleives that Rufus is attempting to build a better life in other parts of the world as well. ~trilateral is meant there are powers behind the seens. http://www.trilateral.org/memb.htm ~Tut feel that this is not just a short squeeze, but he thinks that Rufus sees the average shareholder should be able to get the benefits for once. ~Tut has also been involved/looking into the NS ~This has become personal for him and he feels that this is a great opportunity for them, a once in a life time chance, and the shorts have no right to take this chance away from the shareholders. ~he is associated with a number of "groups" but will not elaborate. ~He is suggesting that any shorters that they should begin covering. ~He wants all shareholders to call there congressman and keep calling
****I have decided that TUT is Glassman...LOL
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quote:Originally posted by a surfer: Cant be a scam at this level. Rufus and ben won't have any shares freed up untill 90 days after the merger. sept. 13th. merger complete.
Sept or Oct?
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quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Nothing said yet about "getting it off his chest" yet huh???
Exactly... Until he says something that is a bombshell, Tut will have no more credance in my book. He will just be a guy who has made some good, but very vague, predictions.
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quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Nothing said yet about "getting it off his chest" yet huh???
Exactly... Until he says something that is a bombshell, Tut will have no more credance in my book. He will just be a guy who has made some good, but very vague, predictions.
Also, until he gives a real name, he could just be spinning a very nice tale that anyone of us could do, given a little time and effort.
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quote:Originally posted by a surfer: Cant be a scam at this level. Rufus and ben won't have any shares freed up untill 90 days after the merger. sept. 13th. merger complete.
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Or if he could provide what the working relationship is between him and CSHD, that would almost be better than having a name. And why does he know so much, and why does he have the ear of Rufus and Co.??
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Okay. Can anyone tell me how YOU as an individual will profit by forcing a short squeeze by requesting your Certs? By the time you are able to sell your shares the Squeeze is long over. You can't sell when the PPS goes up because you don't have access to your shares.
GLTA Wally
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Could this be TUT? Someone said he sounded Canadian?
Bill Graham (former Canadian Minister of National Defence and Minister of Foreign Affairs under Paul Martin; since 2006, interim parliamentary leader of the Liberal Party)
quote:Originally posted by unclerudy: Or if he could provide what the working relationship is between him and CSHD, that would almost be better than having a name. And why does he know so much, and why does he have the ear of Rufus and Co.??
He has bascially answered this when he stated that he came upon this by accident and that he is not an insider and that what he is posting is from the DD done by him and his GROUP.
GLTA Wally
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quote:Originally posted by wallymac: Okay. Can anyone tell me how YOU as an individual will profit by forcing a short squeeze by requesting your Certs? By the time you are able to sell your shares the Squeeze is long over. You can't sell when the PPS goes up because you don't have access to your shares.
GLTA Wally
[10of13 wrote] ~Tut claims that Rufus and Company will have nothing to gain at this point, they can not "gain" for 90 days after the merger completion ---------------------------------------------
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